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LeBron's Debut

High Noon

21:54 min | 2 years ago

LeBron's Debut

"Jesse did sports. God's Coon abroad is the front has the double header input. The partners in the Broncos into sleepy far of the. Light legislation. Congress has asked about sports towards this. One of them act. Someone jump all over that four. Maybe there's problems with the Broncos on TV. Yeah, right by this. Oh, like America. This is what America was clamoring for. You stayed up for the whole Lakers game. Presumably I stayed up. Little in and out a little bit of stop snitching. The first name is the Lakers because if you missed it, the bras new squad lost to the blazers last night. And what was the typically the fastest pace game? LeBron's career. So ball. What was your biggest takeaway about this team from watching this first game? I mean, presumably they're going to get better, but we knew they were a flawed tea. It is a flawed team. They were not able to buy a bucket from long range throughout the whole night. It wouldn't a single person. I think you look up and down boss and say, wow, he ate a good night's shooting, but it looks like they're gonna move up and down the floor. It looks like the ball is going to move and LeBron is definitely trying to be these dues daddy, right? Like he, he's totally going for that where I feel like he's trying patient Dan role this time as opposed to when he started in Cleveland, where he was hard to impress angry Dan all the time. Yes. And we have some sound LeBron being the father that these men never had. If you can play that police. Any fool. Pick you up. And this is LeBron James being part principal, father, character, which interesting to me about that dynamic is that regime in Rondo is the teaching assistant. He is the other adult that LeBron has entrusted to the tune of the believe thirty two minutes last night, but big picture. The good news religious veins is LeBron James tends to start slowly with new teams. It was nine and eight in Miami was believed. One thousand nine hundred twenty five hundred David Blatt in Cleveland, what small picture? It's the fact that they started over fifteen on those threes and that that offense which can push the pace and do all the things you said, which is great that half court offense just they don't know what they're doing yet, and that's going to be the thing that they got to figure out of these students are expecting to stick around. Well, that's the thing that's going to take awhile like it would be unreasonable for us to expect this team to drop in is suddenly got this half door opens thing down. That's not. That's not what this is going to be. What we are going to see though, and you make great point there. Rondo definite looks like teaching assistant. He'll LeBron played together a lot. How much room is there? Play Rondo LeBron and Lonzo ball at the same time. That doesn't seem like something that they could do very much. And the other interesting piece is that Brandon Ingram is their biggest asset. They took him off the floor because he wasn't shooting well with about three to four minutes left. That's something that they need. If they want to get that how you pick the do that ain't shoot world out and do that. Can't you? Next teams cardinals name whatever cardinals, Arizona fired offense, coordinator McCoy today after getting blown out forty, five to ten last night by the Broncos in a gang rookie quarterback, Josh Rosen struggled throwing three interceptions Pablo this team. Bad enough were first year head, coach, Steve Wilks should be worried about his job. He has to be worried and it's not simply because the nation writ large finally got a sense of how much of a sewer this team is, and they are, I think, easily like are they the worst in the league votes? Second second giants spills raiders bills, and that's fair. One of the worst teams easily in the league. But the reason why this should be wearing just because Josh Rosen had been sacked five times when he got his six and that six happened when they were down thirty five and he got hurt that foot dot hurt. And that's the one thing you can't do. If you're the head coach is get your rookie quarterback or franchise guy hurt in a meaningless game. Yeah, but they're not gonna fire him behind that. They're not gonna look up on that. Now, what is worrisome is he came out last night. He was saying it's too early to start talking about making changes, and then apparently at the practice dollar Zona Tom offense coordinator. Now they looked awful in this game, and by the way of the Broncos lost this, we'd be asking this same exact question about Vance Joseph, because this is what happens when you get embarrassed on national television, but St. Wilson's a defensive guy coming into this game football outsiders in the Devia way, had Arizona at ninth at the very least. If you are a hint coach, your team needs to be good at one thing perfectly. The thing is that you do. So he is at least demonstrated that basic level of competence that will save him. It was look getting fire in your first year is. Really, really difficult to do. I would assume he will be here next year and now Byron left, which comes in and takes over as offensive coordinator, and that is an offense that should be so much better. They had David Johnson. They have the dude that every fantasy player does is really, really great. And that team when they run the ball with David Johnson, is it better and schematically that has to add at some point we'll use. Like us. Got the head coach fire it did. Obstacle quit name's David. Price is the next name despite certain haters saying the Red Sox were crazy to start price you through six dominant innings shutting down the Astros and sending Boston to the World Series. So Bo, are you willing to eat a little today on both of our behalf and apologized the David price for assuming he would stink last night. So no, I apologize to David price for nothing. You probably gonna come out and call us a bunch of nerds. Typical standard response to such things. We had ten years of postseason track record on David price. In fact, you can even go back to win. He was in college. He is generally not come with it under these circumstances. Last night was not one of those times. That was without question the best postseason performance that he is ever had and now they are going to the World Series. So yes, I will say that David price pitch well, because I am not blind and I am not a hater, but I'm not gonna pretend as though my feelings about him for the next time you want to rattle them out. There are not going to be the same as they were before. We're no longer a small sample territory. With this field, more like outlier again, let me salute the outlier though, because he did earn that nine strike outs career playoff high for a start. The guy was facing the lineup that was toughest against lefties. Righty dominated lineup, and he mowed them down and the difference reading about the coverage of this series was that earlier this week, he figured out something in a bullpen session. And if you were watching the game last night, he threw forty two percent changeup that change up was excellent all night. That seemed to be the difference maker for him. That may be the thing that he wasn't doing before that he will lean on. Repeat performance like this. It took. You think it took him ten years to figure that part out right by your by everything. That's what it was. Is that magically he came up with the change of? No, no, no, no inclination is to believe there was somebody who's had the track record that he's had specifically in this month because he's been a great pitcher pretty much every other month that it gets a little heavy for. It gets a little tight, which is humid. It's understandable about calling choker for whatever reason he came through at this time and maybe his lucky changeup will be the rabbit's foot or whatever. What they call it a Saint Christopher medal. Is that the one that you walk around with for protection, maybe that's what that change is. I don't know, but he absolutely has exceeded my expectations in this day. This day. All right, Jimmy Butler Butler is making his twenty eighteen home debut tonight. Few days ago you had a message for temple wolves fan boomy and go James. The way I play probably go make me smile more. Please come on with Bob. Do you understand fans booing Butler tonight? I would. And I think it's one of those emotionally complicated dynamics in that arena tonight because mom and dad are fighting and mom. In this case, Karl Anthony towns. Mom is the one that you know has said that she loves you but dead. Those want to be around, but you kind of respect him more in this hypothetical scenario. So I am just worried that this is a fan base that really has no moves to make you if you applaud one too much or one, two little, it gets really complicated the HALE house. Did you grow up in. I don't understand. Okay. All right. So what I understand if they booed him. Yes, on the general idea that fans especially fans in places. Rive personally would not want to live do not like it when people say they want to leave this place, right? They tend to take a little more personally if os too. So maybe that's what it is. All the other hand. I don't feel like if you're fan of the timber wolves that you can't look at Jimmy Butler and not saying you're right about most of this stuff. Right? Like I, if you're tired of Karl towns being a little soft out there, then yeah, Jimmy Butler would be your guy in that way. Like I don't understand a significant level of hostility towards him. You know, your team is a trainwreck. He's just the one that's come out here and said, this team is a train wreck. You want to boost already booth evidence because there's no reason this do to still be on the team writes that is a far better target for your actionable ir getting him out because he does want to be out. And the reason to be mad because he wants to go to New York and Miami and LA, but not in Minnesota with. The good news is that they played a game already. And after the game, Jimmy Butler was using the Royal we. He was saying we and us. He had a pretty good game. Coral towns had a terrible game yet. Eight points fouled out all that as you know, because he is on your fantasy team, but that is good news, at least in the sense that Jimmy isn't going to use Carl's performances. However, poor they may be as leverage. He's not gonna further twist that knife in for the fans in Minnesota. That's the silver lining after one does. What makes you think he ain't gonna do it because he didn't do it the one time, right. Jim him the Jimmy Butler strike, here's the guy was exhausted reservoir patients. Now, at some point, it's going to wind up being too much. They go out to move them out of there and the bad news for Minnesota is Pat Riley apparently has told his guys, it ain't Hatton it like it's not going to go down who's going to trade for him, who was going to end this for Minnesota. And by the way, if they did good Jimmy, are you stuck there. Or does he have to find another way to get himself out? I'm glad I drafted Jimmy Butler. I'm not. Hi newness brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Try to tell you what you're that here, like how they go work Michael Beasley and they're not played one minute. You played two minutes, and I just want Michael Beasley to know that every minute you wanted to play spend that minute in front of a microphone after the game for our professional purposes, that would make our life easier at the very least to the writer's first book. We appreciate them supporting Marquel. Said Sixers, coach, Brown of the incredible jeers Markelle Fultz received upon hitting jump shots last night. Let's take a listen to what happened. Jackson welwyn. Then be that's early, do firing a media. Well. Well, look Levin. I mean, all begging him to take a dare shot. That is the first career, three pointer, four Marquel poets in the NBA and both as we watch this, if you were Marquel how it all of it make you feel patronized people horribly patronized grabs understandably patronized, but really patronizing right? Like the people screaming at me to shoot, they're not making me want to shoot. They're making me terribly self conscious about the fact that actually probably try to shoot for here is the difference in the heart warming silver lining to all of that patronisation Philadelphia battery whipping. Philadelphia usually doesn't take that kindly to former number. Pick Sube struggled this badly and failed to meet the hype. So while it is patronizing the fact is, I think there is a real dose of genuine, cathartic enthusiasm. They're all really rooting for him. There wasn't sarcasm in that. It wasn't. No, they. Really wanted him to shoot and big shots now, could they have done worse is the question that I offered to you because I think that could have been a lot worse than what they gave him last night. I mean, it could have been right. They could get huge. Right. That doesn't make not patronizing right. Like this, the idea, there was no sarcasm heal. Yes, there was sarcasm befall thank God even started being more sarcastic because a fairly you won't notice it was that. Now I'll just say I'll be more sarcastic. Fair. Nice quote anytime I do something good on the field. I always come back to the locker room to text him saying good game or nice, move right there. Steelers running back James. Connor about how supportive Levy I'm Bellas Ben, probably surprised to hear Bill Tech's, Connor positive encouragement. So assuming that these texts were not sarcastic and we have no reason to believe that they were. I think this does make some amount of sense. James Connor is the primary beneficiary of all of the chaos. That Levy on bell has visited upon this dealers locker room. If he is Wally pipped he's being roomed by his Joe DiMaggio. Right Ovalles his Lou Gehrig's. Sorry, excuse me. He's being groomed by his Luger EQ. And so for all of the criticism that beyond ballads going to take the fact that he has been a good guy to him, I think does matter because the offense of line hasn't heard from him at all otherwise. Well, here's the thing any while tip like this is not a widely tip colonnade, you know, damn new, Gary, go ahead. Let's get straight, right. Wade while it comes back from injury while refer from whatever issue whenever he's doing while he's probably gonna come back and start here. Now, I do think that it is a little surprising just because we can. Tell we're Bill does or doesn't tell the rest of these, do you have? No, that's the only reason that I would find it to be surprised. I don't think that Bill has any reason to have any animosity toward James Cotter. James Cotter will probably have this job next year. We know Levy Bill won't have this job next year. So yeah, I could see him sending those things. I could see him saying those things. And per what you said about a battling the offense of line and how they'd get along. You need a friend ninety navy just to talk to when he gets back. Well, do you think like David decastro and all of these linemen. Right? They're like asking to see James Connors phone, hey, man, like the guys that he would be here during the by weeds. It was free money. He still has not shown up his rejecting the money and us. Let's go, I wanna see him. Hey, great game to cash. Drove the Castro hitting back where you way. Yes. You up last. Folk either real question here is with this being more than the WNBA max salary would women the allowed to hoop the g. league. Tweeted WNBA all starchy nee. Meakic after learning the NBA developmental g. legal offer lead prospects, one hundred twenty five thousand dollar contracts, Bo. What is your reaction to that? Well, in hearing it again, one thing that jumps out and we don't talk enough about is the idea. They have a Mack salary and the WNBA eight, right? Like I don't understand why they, how would you do with the idea that there's a MAC salary and the WNBA is crazy, and it adds to what the insult is. WNBA players where minor league men's players are being treated better than those who are professionals in the WNBA, like top level professionals in the WNBA. So that's the part that jumps out to me. And I understand again, why WNBA players had the problems that they have rights, and if you are the WNBA you have an opportunity to make all of this rhetoric actionable. Talk their CVA expires on Tober thirty. First, everything we understand about this lead. Me to believe that the people who are saying this stuff, Gina enter Polly's. They're serious about this and the just respect has led to real resentment. Will they do the thing that the NBA players do not do and actually step away from the table and say, we need to get the respect that you say that you want to give us. It would be interesting if they did because so many of them make more money at their other job elsewhere. Right. And that makes this a little different than you had most of these labor situations. The idea that you snake, y'all ain't even all my money. I'll go do this somewhere. I'll show we'll pay me to rice. Put this show in your pocket by listening to the podcast for Monty has one too. I also have one if you wanna hear about my restaurant and my dorm, which you breaking news, high noon is brought to you by subway, make it what you want. All right. So who was playing late night tonight? Do we have to watch it? We have plans after the show today. Oh, even outing. That's right. It's really an interior meeting. It's my house team building. You're not invited though today's number. Wednesday thousand dollars. That is the amount Kansas head coach Bill self allegedly requested indeed is the pay power forward Silvio Susan order for the apparel company to keep its sponsorship deal with the school, how worried should Bill self be right now. I don't know because we have a direct implication of a big name NCWA head coach tied directly little money, and we just got to it in this show. Right, correct. I don't have any answer for what the ultimate long-term issues are going to be coming from this trial. If for no other reason than candy ac- AA afford to show all the dirt itself that has been shown in this trial. We seldom get guns with this much smoke emanating from them. We have alleged text exchanges. One of the dudes, Jim gas Nola the Dita's fixer rep. He talks to Bill in a text message says that he will support Kansas above all these other programs. The more lottery picks you have a happier you are and self allegedly replies, quote. That's how it works at UNC and Duke guess Nola says Kentucky as well. And it's sort of this weird thing where Bill self seems to be aware of what he is doing and he's nearly saying, this is how it works everywhere. I need to be like everyone. Also let us note though that the everywhere that he put here all night schools and he's talking to the Adidas guy, right? And he does seeing that he was having a crisis of conscience while he was doing it like this, how everybody does. Right, right, right. Like I'm not the only one doing this. It's okay. I'll I'll not the dirty one. Dirty one. I am allegedly one of the dirty world. And so what happens to Bill sells here again, the question for the NCAA is how much do you want to look into the duke's the Carolinas. The Kansas is for stuff like this because they know that when they put their microscope over these cell phones over these programs, they will find exactly what everybody already knows the in. Keep in mind Wilbur dealing with here on this one is one shoe company, right? Which then makes it again awkward for the AA to go in and get all the guys. In close got a quote from NFL coach. It's really difficult to defend athletic quarterback for running or throat coaches, Bill O'Brien, who was he talking about? Not watching, but Blake Bortles subject to the following headline from the Houston chronicle Texans aware of Blake, Bortles scrambling skills. I mean, I'm just asking like, why wouldn't somebody be aware of his grabbed skills? It's his speed somehow deceptive. We have video Bomani of him scrambling. We have video of him doing things that are quite athletic right up in our faces. Why is this continuing to be discussing how many games you have to watch with the Jaguars your Bortles runs and they're like, oh, you might be a little quicker than you think. Why wouldn't? I think he was quick. My favorite thing though is that there is a headline reporting, the awareness, they they know that Blake Bortles is ambulatory. What else sounds like they had to tell the catcher in film studies guys fad? No, for real battle. Trying to tell you, he's, I'll wait no time though. They did a black dude out there in there like headline Jameis Winston, not. Just an f. y. yes. So you know, Byron left, which very much not a spring are left, which you had the all time. Classic quote, I've not the slowest quarterback in the league. I'm the slowest black quarter. In closing, I would like to listen to the hottest or dry is technically take that professional athlete has ever given us. That's. Really don't like water. I'm trying really just don't like it when you get stomach feeling slushy like, I'm, I'm trying to stay hydrated. But you know, sometimes I just I just got it didn't not via is necessary. You know, you cramp in you crampy both gas. It's hard to run and make cuts in if you clamp in India hydrated USA, Sepulveda some something else. Have you ever heard of someone who does not like water? Well, no. Let's start day that the only person I've heard set that I've never heard of anyone who dislike water to the point that they would prefer an IV for Furton needles in your arms. And also I presume that the person that you know doesn't like water isn't professionally doing athletic things requires a constant flow of water. Well, he, he's like, well, you know, you can't crappy. It's hard to cut. You don't say, really, you know, solution to that water water book l. Beckham junior. If you're out there, we are made up of seventy percent of water. If you do not like water, you don't like you. 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Panthers Punished

High Noon

21:59 min | 2 years ago

Panthers Punished

"On jesus. No way to go. I jumped on the bandwagon the union vited me onto basically, this is your and wag. Right. And you know, what you should have been like if I did all this mess. It up. Should've stayed on. I didn't know that my hundred sixty five pounds would cause the bandwagon to collapse Cam was stronger than that not about your waves. If I show essence like you, just broadband vibes. My. Pash your broadband? You persuaded me to do everything we're doing here today? Vo and yourself word versus you'd have malleable first name the Steelers, Pittsburgh did crush the Panthers. Fifty two to twenty one last night and afterward. Mike Tomlin said, quote, probably not that good and quotes. So Bo how good are these Steeler. I mean, he's right about the fact that they're not that good. This wit for being down seven nothing. Too up fourteen seven in the span of one play from slimy. It was absurd. What was happening? They were killing the Panthers secondary of after we had said the defense is probably better than the other. Out here and a little ice with cheese. We talk about the Steelers when they don't play. Well, we talk about the when they're Mr. chaos what we know is they have all kinds of firepower. What we did not know whether they hit a defence and defence look bad early. This year looks good. Now, we were texting about the game. While we were watching this watching our predictions and our enthusiasm go to the wayside, and yeah, they might have dropped seventy on this team both they really really wanted to. And the only argument I think that backs up Mike Tomlin here is that. If you see this team as a stock. It seems clear that they are peaking because this is just such a high right now peaking assuming that this whole thing works on up down sort of mad recognize this is good as they are going to look, right? And it's fair to have a game where everything is going every day. It was a great day at work. Right. You hit all the stop lights. Your song is all when you turn on the radio. Everything went right for them in the course of this game. We could expect it you know, they play like this every week. We'll yeah. Of course, if they do, but the. Fundamental parts seemed to be there for this team. And that's what you deal with go along run them. Yeah. Big ben. He's not going to have more touchdowns. Incompletions? I would say again this season. I feel confident predicting that. But this defense is five straight weeks. Now bowl of them being really really really good. And this offense offense of wine gets complicated. Now, James Connor gets concussed is out. But. Oh, I'm glad you brought that up while the it don't matter if the Bill comes back like this is in a position where people get hurt. Right. Like if Levy Bill goes back in time to play James congress out published complain, you think people are going to do because that do that's behind James cod. This idea that you put anybody behind that line. They run the other dude isn't as good as James Connor, right? Like that everybody not he's not probably a guy who came. But the obvious point to bring up though, is that James Cotter should make it such that Levy on bell already knows nothing to win willing. He's not gonna come back to the sealers who's making the arguments gonna come back to the Steelers nobody thinks that's going to happen. But this we don't need. This. You always need. Good players watching that due to the tunnel in. The course of that game. Should be your reminded win this due back. They'll be salty for a little bit. But what do, you know, another good player just showed up the one guy who come out this week? And he said I think coming back is one of the owners of the team. And maybe he is trying to force something pressure something into reality, speak it into existence, but levian, man. No, don't come back by saying, I don't think you would necessarily be wise that this, but it would help the steam if he did what helps people that have made this counter argument about the idea that it'll be just -rupt people. Go be mad at him. If he shows up now man this game is fragile the people who play it. We're asking too much them to begin with. They would be very well served do show Becker. Yep. Yep. Next name is era agree after after read hitting a slide. Roth bid Rothlisberger in the third quarter. Got check from the game watch that his went down. Now, I didn't know you could be jet like this was realizing Jackson play until somebody got Joe bucks here and told him to tell us so in game speed. Yeah. There is. That's an injectable hit the slow MO and you see the heads nap. Where would they run that back again like a snapper we talking about here? What we do in television as bad. If you love to put stuff is slow motion to make any difference run it over and over and over the nation's reckoning with. That's something that you get suspended for getting checked for rather than that tells me that anytime you hit a sliding quarterback. Then you're getting any Jackson. We'd by the way hitting the sliding quarterback is sometimes kind of wood. So the argument in favor of Eric read here is that this is a rule that the NFL has talked about today rule that is very unevenly applied. It's only been applied three times. We had Andrew luck. We had Cam in terms of defenders hitting them and being affected. And now we have big bed. What this is Bo a thing where the NFL like if Eric feels there is a plot against him as a defender specifically where believe seems to be the sport. He loves seems to be privileging offense over defense quarterbacks over all else stars over non-stars. I totally understand because explicitly almost explicitly. I should say the business. Well, that's where you stopping for where he might have Bush. Well, here's saying that's where we're stopping their for their more. We are dealing with the league that this is due that he has brought a grievance. For collusion that has been dismissed since then, but this is who this guy is a guy who didn't have a job for an extent appear to talk. And the thing about this is this call was not made on the field. He was not injected on the field. The call was made from New York another call that was made from New York this one. This was ruled interception on the field and that game against the eagles. Now if this play was ruled an interception on the field. I don't know how it winds up being overturned like better angle to help you there that call was then made from New York after the game. Eric Reed said that he has been drug tested for what he called life the fifth top. I don't know the exact Jews only been on the team for that period of time. If I'm him. I am looking at this and wondering, okay, so we doing this to meet this just coming in my direction. There is some definitely valid stroking chained emoji face going on because Eric Reed was kept out of the league. I think it is fair to say this boy for reasons that had nothing to do with his ability as a football player. Now. We know that the league is watching him is it true. That the league is watching him play by play trying to figure out. How can we get it such that this guy in the longer is in our lives? I would like to hear the NFL's response to that. I would like the NFL PA of the drug testing the NFL's PR guy this is handled by the way at NFO PR guy. He put out what the drug testing policy was. Right. Like all of that makes sense. The idea like this is what it is. Now, just happens. That airs read has Powerball kind of luck getting drug tested, perhaps. That's the sort of thing that happened to some Serena Williams complains about in Tennessee note. And I'm sure that they probably say the same thing about how it is that they have system. Everybody's always got an answer explanation. Problem is this league's credibility is so low that it's hard to look stuff like that. And not be like all right, this what we say. Yeah. Why do you wanna believe the eye in the sky that people back in New York after everything we've seen the last name is the warriors Golden State blown out by donnas on the bucks last night, bow in even sure obviously the warriors will win the finals this year, but did last night at home curry getting hurt. The indicate to you that things are more fragile and Golden State. I don't think fragile is the right word. Right. Like, I don't think there's any team in the west that we think is good is Golden State like used on sixty five games last year. And they showed us how they look like no sixty five win golf clap for last night. Yeah. No. That's not it that being said I've never felt like they were unbeatable. We've seen too many teams pushed him in the postseason last four years for me to be like, oh, this is a team that nobody can beat which you put golden Milwaukee there with all those long dudes and the kind of defense that they are able to play not bad like it. They caught this team in a seven game series separate makes an interesting point about them. He's like, hey, they remind me of us four years ago. You didn't say it this way. But we make upgrade from not good coach to a good. It's amazing. What can be on low? Yes. And booth Holzer is on locking a lot for this bucks often. They're playing the five out thing with Janas as their as their middle totem pole centerpiece and us is doing stuff like this, which is by the way, just unfair. But the thing. About the warriors and their Frigidity. It's that. Yes, if you're Darryl Worley, right? And you're watching this game. I'm not saying that Darryl the GM of the rockets is secretly praying for Steph to get hurt. But I am totally confident at the reason he wants to go while in why the NBA has fallen apart around us despite the predictability of the warriors rolling to a championship is because injuries change everything and the bucks right now. Number one team in net rating bowl. This is a team. That's real big could be threat of trae Mon who didn't play and curry who may not play. At least they're in the game. I mean, look the second in the league right now in defensive rating the third of in office of rating as the stand. This is a really good team. Think about what we thought was possible. I guess it was two postseasons ago. A lot of us watch. All these teams the year, you looked up and it's like, a swat condors, man. All this lendup everywhere. And you saw her burgeoning yachts, then the regular seasons came around. Seems they did not plan for it doesn't look like this, man. This looks like. Completely diff-. Kevin Durant after this game was talking about who's complaining about how this team is long. Kevin durant? Complaining about a team having too much length. And when you look at Chris Middleton because that's the other name that should be mentioned here. Chris Middleton who was the second best player conceivably on this hypothetical championship team, the bugs or assembling. He's an all star right now. He's shooting threes. A game in this booth. Holter offense making half of them. The question is have a third guys. Eric Bledsoe that third guy. And that's where the talent gap. But go bus in the warriors already. They're short on shooters and guys they can get their own shots. Like that matters a lot in the polcies. That's the warriors head to direct guys. They can get their own shots. The bucks. Don't have them themselves. Come up. Yeah. Peter trip. He's funny. Do not true. It's Tony time. High noon is brought to you by Philadelphia cream cheese. It must be the Philly. Coming from the seaport district. Compeer seventeen. Brought to you by chase. Data's cam. Newton by glad to up. We talk a second about how bad he played in. Did not talk about all that LEGO Airdrie you'd have to every game. The reason that was one play and a fourteen seven was the pick six nonetheless. I quote tell Sean paid into keep talking that bleep going to see him soom feel me. Said Marcus Peters when asked about saints coach, Sean Payton talking trash about him after Sunday's game said, quote, they're going to travel Marcus to Michael Thomas, and that was fine by us. We thought we really liked that match up a lot at quote, let's watch Mr. Peters is replied. Keep talking. Enough. Nice. Gumbo. Good to see that report space fair enough. That was the first side of shook fair enough. I will feel if you wish I would feel. Yes. Got no coast, which none whatsoever. He's not wired for this. This is how he talks all the time. It is not jaded is marshawn Lynch is cousin in some former fashion figurative or literal. And he reminds me of what marshawn could be like if marshawn actually liked to talk to the media because Marcus Peters has not been playing. Well, he hasn't been he got torched for seventy two yards on that famous. Cellphone eleboration play fair. He's own that. Right. Like that's part of what makes this interesting, then he's doing this. But it's not like, he's shaking the measure of responsibility for this. I do we have him after the game on Sunday, do please roll that. Honest startup damn press came back there might be based on. How long ago? Not not see we ask the questions. He don't get mad at me. I'm actually. You know, things like that. No. I didn't mean nothing by that back. I'm just saying don't acts nothing that that makes totally sense. I wasn't help you out. Like, I say backup. Louise. I don't feel not step up, man. I know I all time do for the record league and mess long. I mean, look at footfall matter. He's also hinting ahead to the fact that his running mate a key to leave who by the way, another personality in the secondary that we do enjoy having on this program that he will make his life easier. Because right now, he is the role shorthand also wanna contract, you're right. I mean, they traded assets to get him and bring him to the ramp. Like, I say, I think that people visit to stay you can own the fact that you got lit up as Phil why the educating in the way that you respond to it. That's who this dude is enter a lot of we have something like this every week. You know, I feel like we could get something like this every week because no matter where he is you ask him something absolutely insane. And we got that one. What he was the Kansas City, and he had been like bicker with the people in the crowd who about it. You know, having loaded. That is a twenty five year old with a veterans command that time to go that was just heard what a flaw or of this light up again this week just so maybe we can get more that would be appreciated. Nice, quote, what I'm not supposed party was that a blue while would bleep where you be at up liberal. John wall on Instagram live responded to critics of him going out and partying. Sometimes let's listen to John. In jail. Pratt about our two ago. So now relaxed my feta. But fans, I said that stand the gym all day. Heart book. Jay, man. This responding to people now right in the garbage. I do. Napa the party. It is what is your reaction? It's worth pointing out because I thought he was just really being funny talking about did you go to the opera or you just in your living room opera living room turns out are to other bar clubs in DC, which is worth noting for people not accustomed to such things. But I laugh at this so much because John wall had this whole thing where we took his Votto from the team USA media day, and he looked raggedy a bad angle. Raggedy? Good job. I've influence you you have cultural exchange putz he's now here like with a very unflattering angle live like mopping-up sweat. This is a man with a supermax contract and super minimum bleeps to give this whole thing is over right? Like, the whole thing that the wizards over they have to tear this whole thing. They look like they hate being around each other. And after they started looking. Like, they hate it. Bring it being around each other. Brought the White House. It was only what two years ago John always as last year. John wall was like I look at Brad Beal as my side kick, I one one eight and now no matter how they feel about John wall. They can't move seven twenty twenty years. Oh that contract. Is there there's they can't pick him up by the way after the break speaking things in trouble, Alabama and the bills who you got a lot more second. Download this shows a podcast mommy's to checkout line to if you can figure that who I am. So like, we get Marc speed is maybe the patriots imagine play for the patriots. Can you imagine Bill Bella check trying to manage markets heaters on the patriot? I do think that. Supposed to play. I think Bill would appreciate he took it for the team. He didn't blame coaches or anything. Today's number. Twenty eight point five. That is how many points the west gate sportsbook has the bills favored by over Alabama in a match up. Bo would you put your money on the bills to covering this twenty eight point five points. Brett all right, just how numbers work the bills have to score twenty nine in order to win this bit. The Buffalo Bills would have to score twenty nine points in order to go five last phone scored twenty nine points because that's where it can't happen. I don't think battle was scoring buffalo. Buffalo's defense is good. But Buffalo's off it the Peterman picks off Peterman baby we mostly just did this topic excuse Joe the Peterman doing Peterman things I will admit, but that bills. The bills defense has to be mad about this stuff. Because the bills defense, according to Devia way, the advanced metric that we all pay attention to their these second best defense in the league. And they're getting dragged into arguments about whether they can lose to a college team. They haven't scored twenty nine points yet this year. Okay. Let me count up the weeks. They have scored twenty nine points in the last three weeks combined in the last two weeks. They have only scored thirty three points, and you won't to say they score twenty nine and a day in a day. I would I would take to Taga vilo over the Peterman right now. I if you're Sean McCoy though, right like the older guys don't the other guys like shoot wjm. They should be mad entire premise gave. Remember if Derek Anderson is healthy key planes. That's what they are saying to the mandate. Their offense in the air of outside of doing Devi away worst passing offense that they have ever seen. We look this up before the show the nineteen ninety two Seattle Seahawks combined for nine touchdown passes. And the quarterbacks were kenniston STAN Gill ball in dammit wire, and who may were better passing than this. Buffalo t I don't know any of Mark Maguire, six foot eight brother. Whoa. There's another McGuire. There you go. In close lays jelly is something none of us. And I mean, none of us thought. We would see what he eighteen blue Tang clan on good Morning, America. The proclamation declaring today, November ninth Cain clan. Yes. Got you. The bracing underway now. Spoke. Attain with protect your neck. Two point. Protected. They're all kinds of people who's never mentioned. They wear shirt independ- drought today know that they were coming to Tang. I know now this is twenty five years to the day the release of thing. Thirty six times. Yes. In fact, Trump called quest got a case to maybe a little bit salts Maradas came out on the same day with no this is new Tang date and the biggest between Tang now in twenty five years ago is all of them showed up now. OD be because but yes, son, the young Verdi bath that. Yeah. He managed to show what? Well, you staying thirty biological son. Who is definitely aware of bother. Yeah. Yeah. Also, we have lived this long. We have lived long of Pablo says he can name all the young flock to Ray hayme Amal. You said you can rake want cabin Dada. He's not actually technicality. I believe that he was ushered because he put enough time. We will settle this later in closing. 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2020 Week 1 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

27:21 min | 2 months ago

2020 Week 1 (Part 2)

"It's time to eat. Four sit down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe. Dolan me now. On the fantasy feast and podcast yeah. Let's eat. Maybe the fantasy feast eaten podcast show that so nice we do it. Twice episode two is delayed Games on Sunday the Sunday night or both. Monday. Night Games this week and we are presented by fantasy points dot com. You know why? Because Joe Dolan owns fantasy points dot com. That's why we are presented by them I'm at Ross, Tucker NFL, twitter, instagram facebook even youtube youtubecom slash Ross fell you wanna see Joe with the four year old. Toddler had on with the fantasy points at the fan spinning. You gotTA check out YouTube dot com slash Ross Tucker, NFL, all of our podcast get posted at Ross Tucker he's Joe Dolan, Edgy Underscore Dole, and he's an absolute Stud I love how much you guys have embraced them after we we lost Evan. Joe Has picked up the slack and then some and you're doing the same with the website fantasy points Joe I know it's been fast and furious recently but before we dive into chargers bengals. For people that maybe have been home now to the last minute, they didn't even know GonNa play fancy. There's going to be a season or maybe they maybe they already had their draft. Why should they still subscribe to fantasy points and use the code feast by the way to get the five percent discount but why should they subscribe fancy points Dot Com using the code feast now I'm Gonna I'm GonNa lay it on thick here Ross to three completely. Honest. Wait. While our wallets, our bank accounts for those of US fantasy points, dot com deal appreciate you people who pay us the pay US money just download our cheats, do your draft and then never log in we do appreciate you. But I'm going to call an idiot. 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So this is fascinating because you have a team in Cincinnati that has a bad day. has need some time to probably grow a little bit, but they also have a rookie quarterback who Ross I'm sure you've you've evaluated the body language he's got set. Let's put it that way in Joe Borough. I think they're going to score points this year I really do the chargers obviously I think the defense is the strength of this charge team, but the derwin jeans loss is terrible. So I'm looking at Tyler Boyd. Aj Green I like boy is a wide receiver to AJ green is a low and wide receiver to your firing up Joe Mixing I kind of like Joe Borough as DFS quarterback, this week, and I also WANNA see how rotation of receivers behind. Green buoyed. Shakes out they have three good ones potentially free good ones in John. Ross never stay healthy but has speed auden tate odd who was coming on and training camp and the rookie higgins at Clemson. So you have a great group of receivers here I think Cincinnati core lot points Ross I'm seeing their three and a half one underdogs I might I lean is with you there a three and a half I know home field advantage doesn't really exist this year but at home. And Joe Borough fired up to play his first NFL game I kind of like the bengals. got it I like it. You're on board what about the other side with the La chargers? tyrod Taylor as long as he is starting, he's a stream -able quarterback because he runs I just don't know how long it's going to start. The coach is always come out guy we're not gonNA bench him, and then the team goes one in four and then they metro. So maybe use tyrod Taylor while you can before they go to just in Herbert a stream. -Able DFS quarterback this week against the Bad Cincinnati Defense you're obviously playing Austin Ecuador you're obviously will playing hunter Henry and Jean and Allen this is a really bad cincinnati secondary I think they're going to have problems defensively. So I all of those guys you have to keep an eye on Mike. Williams status though though the wide receiver who's dealing with a shoulder injury. What's the rotation at wide receiver behind Keenan Allen if Mike Williams can't play what is the rotation at running back behind Austin Heckler is it going to be Joshua Kelly the rookie or Joe or Justin Jackson? Those two guys those are two situations that I'm watching but I think tyrod Taylor is going to be a very popular quarterback this week but I think Austin keen and element Hunter Henry are really the guys who were going to be populating season long lineups. God. Let's move on to the Arizona Cardinals and the San Francisco Forty niners cardinals played them really well, both times last year. Can I ask you one of our best pets? We had the bengals together and we're the cardinals together getting the points in San. Francisco cardinals feel like they got a Lotta mouths to feed Joe. Yeah. So the cardinals probably had four maybe five receivers that were drafted in your fantasy leagues depending on how deep you know people down down the line taken a shot on Andy Isabella Bella obviously. Larry. Fitzgerald. you have Christian Kirk what really week one there's only three guys against the San Francisco Defense I feel really okay about playing and say, okay because I don't like the Andre Hopkins match up with Richard Sherman. So that's not a great match up but you're obviously playing they just paid the Andre. Hopkins negotiated that deal for himself you are playing be Andrea Hopkins. But the Richard Sherman matchup does give me some pause you're playing Tyler Murray you drafted him as a top five. You don't this the the thing that drives me the most nuts Ross. As I'm sitting here on the fantasy fees podcasts and all off season. I'm telling people don't quarterback early don't draft quarterback early don't draft quarterback. There are notable steps. Or is one of those quarterbacks who you were drafting earl. And I- inevitably get questions after telling people off season weight on your quarterback people draft one early and asked me if they should Benjamin week one. Drives me nuts, drives me utterly nuts I am plank either murray even in the bad matchup I'm playing Kenyan drake I want to see what this wide receiver rotation looks like I'm I'm not too keen on. Christian Kirk this week though I think you can make A. Case for him saying Richard Sherman is going to lockdown the Andre Hopkins. So you play Christian Kirk. I want to see how much chase Edmunds place that that's the focus I have in this game. It's those three guys I feel good about, and then watching how the rest of the offense shakes out. Let's get to. The on the other side, the San Francisco Forty niners what you're thinking there. Well MOSTER is is going to be in your lineup I. Think you can take a shot on Tevin Coleman the guy I'm really interested to see San Francisco those Jerick. McKinnon. How much is he gonNA play? He was being discussed as one of the true stars of their training camp. So I want to see how much he plays because he can give them more in the passing game than Coleman or most of that in mind heard Coleman didn't have a great camp. At wide receiver I'm probably giving it a week. I I? Mean I guess you can play Depot Samuel fees out there but they had they had so many injuries there deebo Samuel Brandon I. I'd prefer to give it a week there. Let's see how wide receiver shakes out. You're obviously planning towards kill I. Know Arizona gave up the most fantasy points by a by miles the tight ends last year so I think you're planning towards kids even though you think the rookie from the rookie from Clinton, is going to do a good job. Shoring that up at, you're definitely playing for its kettle anyway Jimmy Garoppolo is a stream or the quarterback, not a really appealing fantasy team for San Francisco because they don't game plan to put the ball in the hands of anyone individual player. Maybe with the exception of Kelsey Kelsey, excuse me kindle. He's the guy who you might gain plan to to put the ball in his hands but everyone else is scheme based. So they could be kind of annoying for fantasy but For, sure. Maybe you take shot on one of the receivers but keep an eye on keep an eye on the Kennan keep an eye on Trent Taylor who I heard good things about and then you might be able to stream rob lowe as well. Four. Twenty Five PM and I specifically waited for this game, Joe. Draft Kings segment where we talk about these guys because the bucks the saints, there are a lot of fantasy guys names to know whether you're playing season-long football or if you're doing DFS, I've been looking at draft gangs, you can do it the whole weekend you can do Sunday, the three or four o'clock games, just that slate, and so I wanted to make this the featured draft kings. Dea Fast End sportsbook APP game of the week it's the bucks and the saints. Let's start with the bucks. Okay. three and a half point underdogs here and Tom. Brady's first game I think. Tom. Brady and this is purely anecdotal I just think he's GONNA WANNA raise middle finger and go out there and put numbers on the board one thing you have to keep an eye on. Where recording this on Wednesday Mike Gavin. Is Not practicing on Wednesday Bruce Arians calls him day to day, but that would put a series damper on Tampa Bay's ability. To put up points in this game obviously. Yeah. The matchup with lattimore would you presume Evans withdraw but if that doesn't go is Scotty Miller going to be out there potentially as a DFS pivot play how much twelve personnel are they going to run with Rob Gronkowski and Oj power and Cameron but in a potential shootout Ross I, I'll tell you one thing i. am not really all that into this backfield rotation Leonard, Fournette Ronald Jones. How are they going to shake this thing out I'm I WANNA sit on that for a week I really do Brady. I think is in the QB one discussion obviously you're playing Chris Godwin keep an eye on Mike Evans status. Interesting. Okay. What the allergy expand upon a little bit more while I mean when it comes to Mike Evans like now, he has actually done put up numbers on Marshon lattimore in the past but if he doesn't play well, if he doesn't play this week, they're gonNA throw. Scotty Miller out there. Scotty Miller is probably going to be somebody who's going to garner a decent amount of ownership if Mike Evans is now. And again, right now I don't know. Bruce. Arians is calling him day to day. You might be listening to this Friday and you're like, Dolan why are you throwing me into a panic? All I can do is present you the information that we have at this point so keep an eye on Mike Gavin Status Chris God when you're lineups. I'm just excited to watch this from a football standpoint. I. Think Rob Gronkowski is GONNA get some DFS ownership because people are gonNA think there's GonNa be a touchdown connection there. I can see that as well but I'm probably want to stay away from the backfield here I wanna see how that plays out. what about on the other side for the New Orleans Saints. Potential shootout in this game, drew brees is in your lineup stacking him with Michael Thomas is completely viable this week Three and a half point favorites. So a a line of forty nine, which is a pretty high over under. Michael Thomas I think it get a lot of targets in this game Emmanuel Sanders. I think is a viable wide receiver three in this match up and you are obviously playing Alvin Kamara as of as of recording. He has not yet signed that big deal, but it looks like they're getting to the finish line on that. So he is expected to be at practice so you have breeze Kamera. And Thomas Three guys for sure I. Think you can play the other guys. You can consider the tight end jared cook and Emmanuel Sanders Cook Cook up the I was a little reticent to draft him this off season Ross because he had massive massive touchdown equity last year I think he's scored on like seventeen percent of his targets, which is ridiculous. I, mean just like an utterly absurd number. I really believe he had like nine touchdowns, sixty five targets. It was a ridiculous number like that. That's not going to happen again but you can. I think you can play. Jared. Cook knowing that he still has some left in the tank here as New Orleans gear up for a super bowl run. Excellent love. That Info. That was the feature draft Kings Buccaneers Saints Game Draft Kings Game of the week again, highly encouraged people. If you're GONNA play DFS, do it at draftkings either way whether it's the draftkings APP draftkings sportsbook at make sure you put the Code Rawson. So they know we sent you. It's unbelievable. How many contests? How many games they have you can get involved? In what about Sunday night cowboys at the rams second highest total of the week behind only Houston and Kansas City fifty one and a half doubt that was has been talked about more than any team in football this off season and I mean, you obviously have a Amari Cooper Michael Gallup and cd-rom at wide receiver. One thing I do want to keep in mind though especially. If, you're playing this game for DFAs. Purposes Amari. Cooper has been core a wide receiver who has struggled against a week corners and do they get more elite Rawson? Jalen. Ramsey. there. No corners bank account is more elite Jalen. Ramsey's right now. So just keep an eye on that I thought Randy struggled at points last year, but Amari Cooper has had any he's been banged up in. Training. camp. So Amari Cooper downgrade for me I'm not saying Benjamin but he's a downgrade for me. Maybe you give an uptick to Michael Gallup and seating lamb in that regard you're obviously playing Hezekiel Elliott and just like I gave you the spiel about Kyla Murray you draft a Dak Prescott is the third or fourth quarterback off the board in your fantasy league you're not benching him. Zeke Elliott Ross. I don't know if you saw but apparently Aaron Donald Stinks against the run. I don't know if you saw that to read it. I just saw the headline. I didn't read it now. I think it was an espn analytics piece that said he's average against the run. I don't agree with that. But obviously, if you think he's stakes against the run fire up Ezekiel Elliott playing Zeke. A guy I want to keep an eye on and I think is viable this week. If you went dumpster diving at the tight end position like I advise that you could do a Blake Darwin Dak. Prescott talking him up the cowboys saying all offseason. Hey, we think this guy can take the next step to being a number one tight end. So Cooper and Gallup. Lamb has wide receiver, three kind of potential. This week and Prescott. Zeke are locked in your lineups and a lower guy you consider as Donald. On. The Rams on the other side, I can makers in our fantasy feast dram black. Friday night think my first two picks for rookies cloudy over layer camakers. But I just felt like that's where the value was that that I I think McVeigh said three-man rotation. So I'm sure you'll tell me how that was terrible pick. no. As a matter of fact, I think it's an awesome pick because I think. Is. Going to win this win this job. He's the only ram running back on planning this week we have seen nothing from Daryl Henderson. He was banged up at the end of training camp. All the information points by the way I was reading a Jordan Rodrigue from me athletic. She says, camakers is her projection to win this battle in the end. So camakers is the guy I feel good about, but you might consider more of an rb three at this point until this whole thing shakes out. Have a funny feeling about this rams team by the way. I. Think Jared Goff had really low touchdown rate last year I think that goes up I. Think this offense is going to be better I think they started to figure it out towards the end of the year. So you're playing Tyler higby I think jared. Goff is viable. Dallas could have some secondary problems. Their pass rush is what could give the ransom issues here because the rams offensive line was terrible last year. So the past for Dallas I think could give them a lot of issues however. I like Robert Woods this week. Cooper cop you drafted these guys to be two of the best receivers on your team. You're playing Tyler higby you're playing him camakers I think is more of an RB, reflex? Play. And keep an eye on the wide receiver rotation behind. Woods, and cup is van. Jefferson is Josh Reynolds is it going to matter or are they going to play a lot of twelve personnel? Again that's the question I ask. Let's get to Monday night Joe, and for the first time ever I will be in the booth for Monday night. Westwood One, it'll be the steelers at the giant. Eagle and myself really looking forward to it and I guess the big question in Pittsburgh is just what to expect from. Ben And what that means because they got a lot of weapons and they get a lot of receivers. But Tomlin's been pretty clear that. Connor is that Belco? Yeah and I'm expecting now until they until they give a reason I told you on the podcast a couple of weeks ago I wish I drafted more of James Connor I. Just I drafted SOM- but I wish I drafted more in best ball because the vibes have been very good for him coming out of training camp and we know when he's on the feel that's the thing with car when he plays, he's an rb one. So I mean you're you're feeling good about him. He's healthy right now plug in your lineup. Are Heavy favorites in this game I think they're going to win the game and I think they're going to win it pretty easily. So James Cotter get them in there. Juice michels during the Anti Johnson I am playing both of them. Judy was a wide receiver to Deonte. Johnson has a high end wide receiver three against the giant secondary defensively I. Still Think this team has a lot to work on. We know what happened with the Andre? So, yes. A lot of issues there for the giants Ben is a tall quarterback for me this week, you also take a shot on Eric E. Hebron who was one of those dumpster dive tight ends though you're probably sitting on him this week to see what his role exactly as. Got It what about? On the other side with the G. men going into that nasty steeler defense. See this is one of the reasons I was a little bit worried about Daniel Jones my fantasy drafts because I think the steelers, the steelers defense was my pick in our fantasy points subscriber contests to be team gave up the fewest points in the NFL this year I think it's a really good defense I was wrong dead wrong about the makeup fitzpatrick trade I thought. The steelers were stupid to make that trade at the time and but I mean Kevin. Gober, clearly had faith in his team and the fact that they managed the trade away a first round pick when Ben Rothlisberger was already out for the season and then go eight nate speaks a lot to make up its Patrick's impact on that defense. So Daniel Jones is a downgrade from me. I have him as a qb to this week obviously flying saquon Barkley. The wide receivers gave me a lot of problems this off season because they were all cheap sterling, Shepard Golden dairy, Layton all cheap the guy feel best about state. Sterling a dairy slayton could get a really tough match up on the perimeter from. So. Tastes probably the guy feel best about Sterling Shepard always has injuries and concussion problems, but the giants were also talking up. Evan Ingram and I think he's a low end tight end on this week I wasn't buying what they were selling just because he's been hurt so much I think the fitzpatrick matchup is really tough for him but I think the two giants I probably would. You'll best about putting my lineup or Ingram and saquon Barkley not a great fantasy matchup for the giants. I would say so all right. Let's get to Monday night the late game it's the Tennessee Titans and the Denver broncos who will not have von Miller they are Vaughn Mila. I guess we'll start with the titans that obviously helps tannehill and those receivers a little bit not having von Miller well for sure and one thing that I saw greg. Cosell note is that the the broncos did a lot last year when these two teams played bring their safeties down into the box to try to slow down Derrick Henry, he is expecting a lot of play action from Ryan Tannehill. So I didn't Ryan Tannehill actually is as some sneaky upside in this matchup love Aj Brown probably not taking a shot on Corey Davis. Barely. DRAFTED AJ Brown was really the only wide receiver people were drafting here but I love Aj Brown this week you're clearly blame Derrick Henry and Johnny Smith end is somebody who can take a shot on especially you think agree with Gregg that the titans are going to have a lot of play action involved here somebody's going to catch the ball AJ Brown. I think Johnny Smith could be that guy. I'm just curious like in general how do you feel about Tannahill and there are like the whole season? I was starting to get really into Derrick Henry. In the later part of the summer once it became evident that they really want to throw the ball a little bit more and I'm not saying he's GonNa be out there. Christian. McCaffrey and saquon Barkley running wheel routes and Arrow routes and sluggers but I mean if you can just get him the ball screen game a little bit more that would huge huge number for both his numbers end for Tannahill because that would be another pass attempt for Tannehill. Tannehill is not going to be as efficient as he was last year but everybody thought it was a fluke season. At. least the market did and that was reflected in his ADP. was like ub seventeen or eighteen, and I, and he was like a top five fantasy quarterback over the second half of last season. So there was a lot of discount already baked in on Tannahill and this match become a lot easier with Denver's loss of Von Miller. On the other side broncos offensively young, young young I want you to start though with Lindsay Gordon at running back. I don't we've talked about this before every time I watch him play Football Philip Lindsay's good football like yeah. They just don't think he can carry the load right and that's the thing Ross we now had to coaching staffs now John Elway has headed up the decision-making here but to coaching staff that both did not feel Lindsey was truly back because you can see it I could see the last two years Philip Lindsey was clearly superior towards Freeman and they still split snaps right down the middle. So my thinking with Melvin. Gordon was worst case scenario they WANNA split snaps, and whereas the area we're Philip Lindsey has struggled the most in his NFL career. It's as efficiency as a receiver somewhere Melvin. Gordon has had a lot of success. So I still expect that Melvin Gordon is going to get those calorie rich touches but when I was saying like earlier. That I wished I draft. James. Connor a little bit more. This is the reason why because I drafted a lot of Melvin Gordon in this spot and it's clear that connor doesn't have the competition for job that Melvin Gordon has right now I am playing Gordon's and rb to and I think Lindsay is viable as a flex in this in this in this game. Love it absolutely love it Joe. We made it. We're here there's a game one there's a game like there's NFL Games. I mean, it's it's a glorious thing. This is the show for you guys really show unique hit up season-long Andy Pass s wall we're talking in the two episodes we give you the breakdown of every player that's really relevant in every game check out fantasy points, dot com, use the code feast. There's so much good stuff there it's I mean look I don't know why John Hansen I don't know why you guys are hiring so many people sounds to me like. You're paying a lot of money to people. It's like the biggest fantasy staff in the history of fantasy staffs I. Don't know what you guys are trying to pull over there. You bet you you better bring a lot of money and you must be bringing a lot of money. 'cause you're still hiring people. Yeah. We we are numbers had had done well in the month of August Ross I'll I'll put it that way but it's all for building for the future. You know John Hansen. Always a spouse spend money to make money. and. You know we try not to cut corners with staff. So I think we've we've come up with a good one. Well, you definitely didn't do that Joe Thank you as always thank you, Ross have good week you to check him out on twitter at F. G. underscore going I'm at Ross Tucker NFL. We're at Ross Tucker pod. 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Hour 1: Woodson, Cain & Witten

First Take

42:13 min | 2 years ago

Hour 1: Woodson, Cain & Witten

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Speaking of Super Bowl rings, Tom Brady and the New England Patriots got the best of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers should the tune of thirty to seventeen Rogers twenty four forty three for two hundred fifty nine yards in two TD's, but was pressured on nineteen drawbacks most in the game. They these on the other side Tom Brady twenty to thirty five for two hundred ninety four yards and TD in the wind max game more about Rogers versus Brady or Rogers versus Bellichick Rogers versus belching going in everyone wants to see the match. But we know what it is really. We have a guy Bill Belichick who sees every single game as a problem to solve. And he I'm sure would tell you the biggest problem you have to face from an individual player either side of the ball. I'll bet you ever is Aaron Rodgers by the way that game it was anybody's game. And what did it turn on a fumble from Rogers team? And a trick play from Bella chicks team. That's coaching. Let me tell you something. It's not just Rogers versus Bella chick Rogers versus car seat. He's got to fight a war on this guy. He's got an only worry about the opposing coach what he's trying to do. Yes. To worry about as coach in the kind of position. He's gonna put them in. Obviously Rogers is the most talented guy who ever played the position. I think he's the best. But Tom Brady is the coat because he has still ballot. We saw it again last night. Let me tell you what this game last night between the Packers. And the patriots was about it wasn't about Rogers versus Brady. And of course, the quarterback go up against the opposing head coaches go to defensive coordinator, you know, what this was about. This was about the anti Cowboys game. That's what this is about. You know, why because they are no questions about who the quarterback. But those teams there are no question. About an Raja's there. No questions about Tom Brady. I'm here down. They. But this is about this was about a game where you know who the damn quarterbacks. Aw, and your head something to look forward to because you wanted to see and Rogers you wanted to see Tom Brady are you doing? I did into the question. I'm saying that's what this game. Was it more about Rogers versus Brady Brady versus it was about Rogers versus Brady wa because would've to box office attractions is that everybody wanted to see that is the difference between watching them and watching the cow. Listen it. Cowboys got involved at all. You gotta go that way that that's how you feel any other way you save right saying, okay? You know, who the black hat is running around this franchise. Look brought the black hat. Yeah. Any who can I answer the question about Rogers versus Bellichik because a matchup is never going to be between Rogers and Brady head to head. It's not happening. It's head to head who's gonna make the adjustments who's going to see the adjustments in. It's about Bella check. And yet you gotta give so much credit to the patriots organization because like you said max this this toll matchup only in this game. And it took the fumble. And it took a trick play by the patriots to get back in the game and then move forward. But if I look at this Bella check being able to make a right of just getting maybe getting there right schemes to pays Rogers. Because this like max it. This is the best player in the league that he's going against. Through the prettiest path for the patriots all day. We talk about this all the time. Great coach great quarterback. You're never out of it. So you look at Seattle's having a better year than you thought. Pittsburgh's in it. I wrote him off early all those kinds of teams are going to be a great coach great quarterback the best combination of that ever. We're seeing New England. There's a great team the Packers only have one side of that question. They have the quarterback. But Stephen as right, y'all don't have either. I mean, you don't have the coach, and we don't know about the quarterback this in all seriousness. And also this. I'm gonna say this to you what I wanted to see last night was whether or not Green Bay belong than the conversation with some of the other superior teams in the NFC. I'm looking at the Rams, I'm looking at the saints. I'm looking at Atlanta coming on strong. We see what Carolina is doing the Chicago bands. Can't be ignored this relevant. Minnesota cannot be still around. They can't be ignored. And of course, you got the Philadelphia Eagles and watch the Redskins the Dallas Cowboys. And so when. And so when you've got all that going on which ask yourself is that bad man that is Aaron Rodgers is he gonna be able to carry Green Bay's defense Green Bay's personnel against the period competition. In a fashion that will get them back to the playoffs. The answer last night was no he did wait a minute. He did. It's his fault that. This folk misinterpreted when I'm playing I didn't say what I'm saying. You were looking for him. Because of what he's lacking ask you put it this way. This is my point. He put them in a position where against most teams heat a bit at least in a spot where he could win the game against the patriots. If you fumble and a trick play results in a score. You're going to beat the patriots. Put it a fourth quarter to start a fourth quarter. That game was tied. I think that's what we see in Iran. We can he's going to carry. He has to carry to your point, personnel wise. He has to carry this team. We can week out is he going to get into the fourth quarter. Because of the talent in the skill set that he has and have a chance to win those game. Yes. But in the end because of the personnel that he has around him. They're going to get to this point. They're not an elite football team. Personnel wise, great quarterback, but not in the league and the patriots gonna be there in the end up -solutely. Absolutely. It's easiest the patriots have the easy walk there in the AFC. They're going to dominate AFC east I shore, and they'll be in the AFC championship game. And they'll probably be playing your Pittsburgh Steelers all over again. Did he I'll say Kansas City is going to be actually I'm not sure if the Steelers are going to get all the way there. I think Kansas City we'll be in the mix. If the patriots are there. They're going to see because no defense grade office. No defense. That depends. Talent. No, they're going to be there. The achilles heel for the kids to cheese that secondary who the patriots will abuse. And it'll be Steelers again San Diego, and they'll slap the Steelers them out all over again, San Diego. It's going to go through and get into later getting the Deb again. Let's go to the NFC guys stains did something that hasn't been done the season. P drill. That MVP three hundred yards four touchdowns extending NFL record of games at three hundred pounds fourteen to twenty nine ridiculous stains, seventy one on the while. The Rams are now. Eight and wine, Stephen. Win the NFC yesterday noted. And this one first of all I picked saints win the game. Secondly, and more importantly, I talked about how important and pivotal the game was for two reasons. Number one. I think that if drew Brees had a shot at winning the league MVP his first, and it's the luscious career. He is all time leader past after all he would need to win yesterday's game, which he did. And each show doubt, he bald Michael Thomas has arrived at the top five receive in this game. That was an idiot gesture on his part with the cell phone. He's too late. The Rams are going up against the game was undecided at that particular moment of time that was not smart on his point having said all of that. Here's where resonates with me. It's not always about winning. And losing. It's about how you do it. And the fact that they will thirty five seventeen and the Rams came back on the road and tie that school left a bad taste in my mouth because I thought Todd Gurley running the football affectively call. Thaw and cook doing damage again, say New Orleans secondary ally apples addition with opposed to be a significant upgrade, even though he's not a star. Like, he's got a lot of promise. Please. Don't get me wrong. I like he LA apple the point I'm making that I expected it to be more significant of than it has appeared or did appear yesterday. And all I'm gonna say to you is this. I was of the mindset that the road to the Super Bowl it has to go through New Orleans would spell doom for the Los Angeles. Rams. The fact that they were able to come back and tie that school at thirty five before the saints, go to get the fact that the states allowed that to happen has gave me caused to poor the made me say are we sure that the Rams would lose twice to the saints safety? The I don't know saints. The saints did not win the NFC Esther day. Although to your point drew Brees in the MVP conversation. He'd probably took the lead there. But they did not win the. NFC? First of all, the Rams are gonna get to lead back second of all in January outdoors somewhere, and it doesn't have to just be well, the states go to Los Angeles, right? There are other teams in the NFC. They're gonna have to play outdoors. It could be a different situation. But I will say this. You were the opposite mindset you've come a little bit more toward where I was the first has happened to me because what is off from the saints was offense of line. That is probably the best in the NFL. And a guy drew Brees who may be having the best season in the NFL that is a tough combination. And from the ranch I saw defensive line for the second consecutive week. Name-brand guys wouldn't expect to get pushed back to get pushed around first against the Packers. And now against the states. I stole them getting pushed around that. Everyone's talking about the Rams defensive backfield. Get that. Guys got to play better. I mentioned to lead coming back. But when they're getting pushed around in the middle. That's bad news for the ram. So I'm a little bit on the opposite side there. The saints. Knows how you you. Gotta sit up there and say, well, I'm going in your way of thinking. But you change your way you came by way. I want to say I came your way, but change this how to change my because you've just been saying you're going back my way. No, no, more than you, change your. I'm just talking about don't bring me up is what I'm trying to say. Oh, kale. Plot. Get it. Look like. The Rams yesterday. I like what I saw on the ramp. Stephen as point. Let's they're down thirty five seventeen. They come back. I mean, it's like. Most teams are especially in that dome. Enormous. Both teams are going to fold in that situation. Figuring. Let's have a land. Okay. We'll we'll count this. The loss of move off. The Rams showed me a lot of swagger, especially offense. Yes. They do some issue in the secondary markets Peterson's have he's. He's. Horrible sit there and watch Marcus Camby kid week out. Can I say this? Can I say this because I wanted to I really want to get to input on. I got mad respect for Marcus Peters. Because of what he did in Kansas City. I never headache for them. But we saw him play. Let me tell you right now. And I'm gonna look in the camera when I say, it's Marcus Peters. You gotta take a look at yourself broke you win this. I mean, it was it was zero formation. It was one on one. You looking around comets blow by you, looking everywhere. Restaurant. Brought this up on get up before the show. Listen, Marcus Peters out there looking at everybody know getting scorch, bro. And God they need a keep to leave back in the worst way. And again, by the way, I know it's not just because to leave the -bility on the field. It's because of the effect. He has a mock as Peter teed up Marcus Peters out there. He's looking for fifty point and thinks he's looking scape kids school. And this is the thing about scores because Mike Thomas gave it to absolute. Thomas gives it to a lot of what I could say this. Speeders? The reason why we feel this way because we know they tasted Marcus Peters. We know he's a better football player than what he sewing. He's taking a lot of chances. He's guessing a lot. And that's that's part of his game. But he plays better technically this. And I think as a key to leave goes back. They'll get better. I think the Rams I gained a lot of confidence and a lot of respect for Sean McVay, the rascals they fought back. I'm looking at these two later on it depends on who gets home field advantage. If the saints get home field advantage at home. It's gonna be hard to beat them. They have to go on the road and see a Rams team out there like. He can hit the I'll put it to you in a better way. The Rams have a better shot of beating the saints in New Orleans, then the states have the Rams in LA baseball. What I thought. Yes. But what we're really saying? Still yet. It's the Rams don't have the home field that the saints had neither in terms of conditions nor in terms of their fans because it's going to be half saints fans in LA, right? What we're really saying on a neutral field. Rams are Rams are better than the saints. What we're really saying? And the saints just beat and they beat them behind a great performance by their line by their quarterback. And we're still paying the ramps are a better team. While I tell you Marcus Peters is running around like excuses. He doesn't get his act together. They are going to are. They gonna target ham and scorch him all day long. It's starting to look real bad fell. Your name brand players right mean anything it's how you perform week to week and when they upgraded supposedly or fix things in the secondary with name brand guys. It doesn't mean anything if it's just the name. They gotta play. All right on that. No. Hey, I here we got a game. Here today. And it's only. There we go. Did you have to make the Cowboys do this on Monday night football? What did they do? What did the Cowboys due on Monday night football? Nothing. Nothing. Cow. I think. Out Qiwei describe some of the Cowboys commercial success in popularity that not enough people talk about. Okay, okay. Now, watch this. I talked Tex Schramm and America's team PR. And the fact that is the league was exploding. They were really good. And then again, they were really good with these guys. Right. But they're also geographically position they're in. They're in the south. Plus they're in the west for years, they were the westernmost team like the cardinals baseball. So they got all that part of the country, and then they play in the NFC east with with against teams from highly densely populated areas. Billy. It's the perfect storm where they can be popular without doing anything. Nowadays, you serious. Really, really? Can. I get a score for tonight. Prediction Cowboys winning this game. Okay. I'm gonna say we're really stepping out on a limb. Twenty seven seventeen Cowboys only seven seventy got cowboy Lou. Don't know you. Natera one way or another only one thing is important in tonight's game. Can you get Amari Cooper the ball? That's it. That's the whole shooting match. No, no. That guy the bow. No. No. And then and then we're gonna. Are you there? The last word. Like smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended you'll so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try get the flavor inside his faction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to jewel. Check OJ dot com slash sports. If you don't smoke don't start wanting. Nicotine nicotine chemical. I think about what you hit a Cowboys that store. More is demonstrated. He can do enough to play at this level. I. A good team. Just giving them something to build on. And Larry Cooper is making us Cowboys debut tonight against Tennessee. The twenty four year old white Alvis trade last month from Oakland in exchange for Dallas first round pick a next year strapped the three and four Cowboys are hoping to see them media impact with the offense. Here's a thing. Dow's Neath a deep red. It's why receivers average less than one hundred thirty six yards per game this season that's twenty six in the league. The team's leading receiver is Colby C with three hundred fifty yards fifty eight the NFL markets mariota's numbers. Don't look good. When you look at its touchdown. Interception. Differential in the past twenty one games. He has sixteen touchdown passes. But when he picks Dallas should be feeling confidences. Tonight's game is in Arlington that Prescott has five TV's and zero interceptions at home. But I'm the road. He has three cities four picks. Not surprisingly Dallas is winless on the road and undefeated at home. Now. Let's get back to I take. Thank you. Cowboy. Are we happy with and this gentleman here? Cowboys history. And now he is getting Jason wait until the w thanks million go early when we know you been with my hated you so much. The average grow to the average careers three and a half years in the NFL, and you got three times that number of Pro Bowl appearance. I would like I would like to state something I have something very important to say. Extra security here this weekend. This is not a good moment for me because I actually happen to like this man, you understand future hall of fame. What are the greatest tighter in the history of football, quite frankly, you all? Right. Lenny. He's the best years of his life on you guys. Jason let's get to the game though. Because obviously you got to the missing a receiver. You get a Maury Cooper what expect from him tonight? You're going to look for him to stretch the field, and they went out and got him because they feel like they have to have explosives one thing, you know, football is if you don't have explosive plays, you don't get points. So he's the one guy that could really do that. It's been missing Kobe's Lee underneath. He's got Zeke Elliot he wants to run the football with. But you need somebody that can get separation at the top of routes and go deep, and I think they're going to get him involved early in this game to prove that. Hey, look, we're still in the hunt. We can go make this playoffs in a wide open. Sees this moved to acquire Mari really really about Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and those boys trying to decipher and decide what Dak Prescott truly is worth. What he really really bring to the table says L he's eligible to receive a long term extension. Come this. Yeah. I think it's also to win football games. I mean, you you've had two and a half years with that Prescott. Right. And so the problem you had was you knew that they weren't getting any separation on the outside those big plays gonna happen. So the formula is off. Align run the football. And then the play actions all for that. But he just didn't have anybody that can consistently win. So I think Jerry like he always does. Let's not wait till February and talk about this. 'cause you're right. You can't evaluate Dak properly with out having anybody on outside getting separation. So Amaury brings that he's young. So not just for right now. But for the future as well. Jason some of like what a team invest in the guy is where they pick them in the draft. So Mario to overall. That's Boston doesn't work out. And part of it is how much time you spend developing the guy right back. They spent a lot of time developing, but it was only a fourth round pick hundred thirty fifth overall. So that said how secure do you think Dax job is like at what point now that he has a Mauri Cooper got a great running game. Still got a good offense. And like degrading the future. Got a good defense. How secure is this job? How long do you think we know? Jason Garrett ain't gonna be forever. What about that? I think is longer than you think you look at this team. It was ninety seven last year part of that. Now, they're sitting here at three and four. It's certainly not the way he started out his rookie year. But I still think you can win with him. He's a franchise quarterback. He can make all those plays. Adding these pieces around him is what they need to do. And how they try to address it. So I do think that's leashes long. He's future for this organization and the guy, but he needed some weapons in all seriousness. I agree with you. And I and I truly believe that Dak Prescott got an average spread for Dak Prescott. My problem with the Cowboys this why the hell they always wait. How come you wait until six seven games in the do something like this? Why did you put yourself in this position to begin with you let go a desk, Brian? I got that. But Alan Hearns, really got Alan, hers, Beasley, Tim Williams and these boys no real viable replacement for you not that that's easy to do. I do understand that. But once again, the Dallas Cowboys they may have made the right move. They may have but it might be a bit too late when they should how do you explain that? That's fair attacker. I think they probably bought into we can do this wide receiver by committee looked in the draft. They probably thought, okay. We can we can see if we can go there, and what we need to do. And they were trying to address the defense and you're right after six weeks, they send they're like man, we're not having a guy on outside of that consistently can win and so run around and trying to make these plays with his legs. But he's taking a lot of hits. It's a lot of pressure on seek Elliott that running game the line. It's been a little bit banged up. They haven't played to that level. And so that formula people don't realize this. But when you play the style offense the margin so tight because run it run it. Now, you're on third down where you're putting a lot of pressure on third down. You don't get it. Now, you're putting so you're right. They did wait. But Jerry, Stephen a lot of credit that they made that decision now while the NFC's still open so nine weeks evaluating you've been arrested. Sure of that. And if it's still open who do you think the best team right now in the division? I think trophy. Eagles right now is a stance is the best team in the division. I think when I say that something hasn't been clicking up there. You think what they did add golden Tate? How Sean Jeffrey Carson Wentz is healthy now and Zakar is that playmaker. So it's this divisions wide open. I mean, you look at Washington what they did yesterday. Right now. Yeah. I mean, but you know, you watch that game you say, well, you know, anybody can win this division in for the Cowboys far off into line coach going Maury Cooper in on the by week. You sit there and say you can win tonight and get to foreign fourth that smart for the Cowboys. You think to push their chips to the middle of the table. Now, they gave up a first round pick for wideout who hasn't been productive in recent years. Like that's like a team that thinks we're ready to win. Now. Let's do it. Now is that the Cowboys think you have to look at it that way because defense is playing good and playing top five and a league right now. So you got to say, okay. We have no chance we don't add some separation somebody that can get separation on the outside. So doing that. I think the formulas. Yes, you do make that decision. First round pick for Maury Cooper. Yeah. I get if they don't win another game. And that's a top ten pick love. No love it. But if they get in the playoffs there and look in the morning and say that's a bright future. Only twenty four years old. I'm gonna ask this question. And I'm gonna give you an opportunity to look at these cowboy fans who love you daily. And by the way, does just for you Jason win that damn playmaker. Michael. The prime time. Dion Sanders all of these Cowboys. All right. I want you to explain the me on live television. How French that has not won playoff game to play games rather? Twenty three is the verb to be America's team. Are you kidding me? Be most guy. The reason is here today. That's all you need to know a cowboy boots pulled it off to special shirt me. Every. Who do you think the best tight end in the game right now? Kelty's ridiculous gronk when you're watching these guys, but it's really hard to say because the tight end position is an all time high right now you look at it weekend and week out the way these guys are playing. To start it with rob gronkowski what he's done the body of work. So that long and the big plays that he's making consistently. And then of course, Travis Kelsey is the nets chase. And the way he gives up his body to block like this dude is hurt a lot. But look at the kind of blocks he's making down in the red zone. Jacob is it just to-to gronk Kelty or I mean, who are we missing on that shit be on the list for consideration. Zach irks he's on pace to set a record. Didn't catches the history and National Football League. So you gotta throw his mentioned. They don't throw his name out there as much and then the young punch OJ Howard out there. You got all these guys that you say, okay, there difference makers. But you said it was studying gronk last week 'cause we prep for the Monday night football game the guys blocking he's complete player. And I admire that because he's not just doing in the passing game. He's doing red zone offense. It's partly because you've got a tight end lane guys out and healing. And to get laid out. And he does a time and time again with the win blocks on the outside the one thing that hasn't. We haven't seen from him as the red zone. Touchdown right. And that's where Travis Kelsey name comes in there. Because. Offense in Kansas City's just so hatred because he's blocking. That's right. That's right. Jason home game for you tonight. So appreciate you. Joining us this morning. We'll be watching you tonight. All right. Sounds good guys as in boy Gavin loved playing football. He lived in briefed wanted to go clue why he'd spent hours upon hours just this touchdown at one day. Well, getting fitted for life goals, he realized he was never much good at throwing or running or country or even kicking. Yeah. Gavin's chances of playing football. We're looking like fourth and long very long, but he did hear how could save money on car insurance. So he switched and save. Then he did touchdown. At least he was still good at that. On Monday nights. Thank you. I work hard. Oh my gosh. Thank you. That's actually true. He may be the most objective. Cowboys fan thick the state of Cowboys nation as it were just telling how it is just tell the truth. It's really good to be home, Texas, really good to be home. We'll get you just a bit. But let's start with another huge game. Yesterday. Steelers beat the ravens behind nother monster game from James Connor with a hundred and fifty three total yards. Is it a good idea for lady on bell to return now? Well, listen, I'm going to say this levian bell is one of the top two running backs in all the football. When he's on the field. We know that we know how great he is. So from a talent perspective, of course, as the good thing. But when you listen, if you if you basically go down the list of things that have transpired since he's been holders. Now, the team speaking out against the authentic lineman being so outspoken against him. And then the sea Mike Tomlin just come out the other day and literally use this sentence. We're interested in having volunteers not hostages. That's. Oh. That is that is a profound statement. Because what he's saying is we want people that want to be here. We don't give a damn what the situation is. We'll find a way to make it work. But you need to want to be here. And there are somewhere along the way something as as Don hostile somewhere along the way, we have learned that led the bell at those guys on their team. There's a few people on that team that believe he don't really want to be there just about as money. Now. This is not you're not getting those kind of quotes from the Steelers. If it's just about business, you're not getting play here still bad that he might not even come back. I'm not saying that what I'm saying is somewhere along the way those players, and that coach have been led to question, at least that this guy does not want to be here. Don't let us not just money, and that's a problem but week eleven dropped deadline dead date. Right. Where he. To show up to get his money. So I loved the way Tomlin frame. That Tomlin's a great coach. You know, we want volunteer's not hostages, but that's not Levy belts. Not a hostage. He's the kidnapper. He's the one who's going to get the ransom money. Right. So he's gonna show up to get his money. He'll be available to the Steelers. The question is do the Steelers want him. And the answer is. I don't care how James Connors play you do bell. And it's not about not playing James Cotter. Why does let on bell want to get paid the way he wants to get paid even though he's not twenty three or twenty four. He's going to be twenty seven because he's not just a running back. He's a football player. He can carry the ball. Not turn it over and tax paid. What about wide you can put them in the slot? Here's Bill Bella chick using football players all over the field. Mike Tomlin can do the same thing say something. No max. Here's the word Stephen to answer. This check a beer. I you know, what I am. I'm right. Right. Oh, no. It's not ten in the morning. Here's the. State. Listen, here's the word. Here's the word for lady on bell the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's the word the matters. He is. And this is a statement considering on Bill. He's inconsequential. He does not matter to the Pittsburgh Steelers match. You can talk about his receivers ability to run. But you know, who else can James Connor James CONNER is now approaching on belts record-setting seasons. He's doing things that bell is done. And as you put it out his teammates lady on bells teammates are telling you. This does not matter. In those exact words, David to oven of. It doesn't matter anymore. I don't wanna talk about this Mike Tomlin that you said lady on bell no longer batters to the pits. Why is it an either? Or it's not my point is it's not easy, James Qatar's. Excellent play 'em fails. Excellent play. If either one of them is there and one of them is out of one absent is for business reasons, the business reasons dictate he will show up in a couple of weeks when he does do you wanna get better or not doesn't matter bell on the field makes you better? I don't care what Matt's here the part that you Mr. no one's questioned the greatness of lovey. I'm Bill what we're saying is if anyone would know about his greatness, it would be the Pittsburgh Steelers. So the fact that this speaking about him in the fashion that they have has led us as given us reason to believe there is something about him that it's not just about business. And also, by the way, keep in mind where I was challenged. You will is the Steelers do have the twenty second ranked rush. And attack now Khanna's after four point seven to carry but the twenty third in the league in rushing attempts, which means that they're running the ball considerably less than they did in the past. You can quit you you could say inconsequential. But in the end when it went to playoff comes. And you gotta play plan. Those cold weather cities. You're gonna look to run the ball more than you were running it. Now, the problem this spite what you just said Connor is still a protein lady on Bell's career numbers. I don't even think they're mad at lady on anymore. I don't think they care. Why does I just don't understand? Is this? What's happening is like it's the old days you need a running back. We need a full back to and to check all the boxes or are. We into more position lists football, which the good teams are and you get a guy can run receive as ball security could hands patient the whole thing at can block. You don't want that guy on the field. You want it on the field? I don't care what they got him. His name's Connor both. Let me get to the Cowboys here. Yes. Tonight on ESPN will though was it from a million years ago. Yup. Father father ran out of room on the table. So I just brought one one and if the filter grabs right? The team did to win tonight. They're within one game of the Redskins top of the division tonight. A must win for your team. Yes tonight is a must win for the Cowboys because they cannot fall behind both the wild card race with a ton of teams at four and four right in that range, and for that matter as you pointed out the NFC east. I mean the Redskins and the eagles are giving. Everybody a chance to win this division. The Cowboys cannot fall three and five they have the talent. They have the guys on the field. They have a home field advantage tonight. They have a bye week must win game for the Cowboys. I don't think it's must win. I don't think anything is must win at this stage in the NFC east. I think that when you look at the Philadelphia Eagles even though they're starting to come on. When you look at Philadelphia Eagles when you look at the Washington Redskins and how they got bunk rushed by the Atlanta Falcons yesterday. They just acquired, you know. You know, you got swearing in your secondary. I got brain like who the hell did they just get? Clinton did Clinton from Green Bay. So you just got him. And then you go out on the field. And you get shredded by the Atlanta Falcons. So again because of a roller coaster ride that is perpetually the NFC east. I don't think this is a must win for the Dallas Cowboys. I still think they recovered. I don't get me wrong. The Dallas Cowboys ain't making the playoffs. They will. It's not because of what happened tonight. Listen, you know, what I got jewelry to twenty years ago got two years. First of all why got that two or so what what's a win for the Cowboys. You're talking about win loss records and how it's going to shake out at the end of the year. It's too early to say this must win a win for the Cowboys is one thing and one thing only tonight. Can't they get Amari Cooper the bowl? Yes. Or no. They couldn't do it in Oakland. If they can get Amari Cooper the ball, you see a concerted effort, and he's making plays that has been enormous win for the Cowboys. Picking him to gotta get open put it with this. It's a little bit of a most wind for even more of a must win for Jason Garrett. Because if this thing doesn't get on the right track. Jason. Colin. Actually come away with quickly cuts gives shout out to the shark. Kenny Gan can you sit sitting right over there? That's a Cowboys legend, let me weather's ring up here. He's the short back in the day. He gave me one of his too. Well. What is he doing here? To make. Thank you. Playmaker. There. But we are in Texas. Right. You bet we're in Texas, Houston, Texas started out real slow Owen three right now. One stick straight, right? What your point then not the best team in Texas? The point taking over the council. I'm sorry. Houston Texans taking over as premier. Like the Yankee, limitations. The Houston Texans. Molly gonna make. The matriarch of television just asked you do answer that joke. Funny Houston Texans taking over the state. I'm not here. Cowboys. That's this. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking. Mom may first experience with jewel. I do remember being like since good. It's it's it's like a cigarette but nine I don't miss smoking at all. 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The 40-Point Club, Maddening Mike Evans, and the Sleeper Pool | The Dantasy Football Podcast

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The 40-Point Club, Maddening Mike Evans, and the Sleeper Pool | The Dantasy Football Podcast

"More than four decades the Seattle Supersonics among the NBA's most iconic franchises but in two thousand and eight a pack their bags are Oklahoma hosted by the ringers Jordan. Ritter what's up guys it's Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network I want to tweak is about brand new podcast coming to our Luminary Sleep Paul Sonics boot must plug Thomason had one hundred twenty six one hundred points in standard so he's twenty more than thirty points off from exclusively unlimited starting October third and fifth most by a running back through five games ever and then in two thousand six when Ladainian Tomlinson had the best season ever check out the ringers fantasy football hall of Fame Not Share Twenty five touches two hundred thirty seven yards three touchdowns forty seven point seven fantasy for points by the way he is on pace to set the new NFL wow coming up firing five hours of sleep last night let's do it you could use ten enough of that we're going to run through our what's record for scrimmage yards I think two thousand seven hundred something so keep that in mind he is just absolutely smashing this year I saw a crazy thing on this once again. ESPN's Jim Craft pointed that out but even if you include defense it hasn't happened since nineteen sixty five so check will fuller and Houston had fourteen catches two hundred seventeen yards and three touchdowns didn't ask what your opinions were with five players more than forty points this week what the hell and that's like the first time it's happened in the Super Bowl era isn't it by co host and my co Danny the hero we need and the analyst we deserve the Dark Knight Himself Daddy Kelly how're you doing I'm doing amazing those fifty three point seven points for record he came into the game with fourteen catches for one hundred and eighty three yards and zero touchdowns not bad basically week which are the stat lines that say what this week so this one I think this one required the least debate of the entire season other than Daniel Jones for one hundred and eighty two total yards and four rushing touchdowns for forty nine point two PBR points Sheboygan Christian McCaffrey the Carolina Panthers Welcome to the football podcast on the ringer. NFL show on the Ringer podcast network. My name is Danny Hyphen tonight. I'm joined as always what McCaffrey's doing this year in both formats cheese and McCaffrey even tried to throw a touchdown this week like getting now that have been awesome oh I didn't think of that how you doing Danny I'm jovial you sound like it downright jovial how're you chrome Monday that's that's a lot a buoy it I just had listen Kakharov said he so here's one hundred and fifty nine point six points. NPR Leagues Right now one hundred and twenty eight point six and nine PBR leaks. That's the fourth literally a historic maybe the best fantasy day of all time and you said a bunch of even records through this was not as exciting Michael Thomas just eleven catches all right well I category today what are the day we're told me grandma would call ten sent word I never got that reference either letter we're family loves ten cents Danny Dines so it's the if you eliminate defenses it's the first time that five plus individual players have had it since record nine hundred fifty ESPN's Trish yeah the throwing that well speaking of going back just one second to Willfuller he also got tackled on the one yard line twice while he would have had like a doubled everything he had he was started in eleven percent of Leagues Espn and Sunday so tough beat free eighty nine percents Aaron Jones on the packers he had twenty six touches yeah so absolutely unbelievable day for a lot of people theoretically those five guys he scored forty points it's possible it's not likely that you could have ever seen is insane to think about I think our colleague Roger Sherman actually requested screen shots I saw one where a guy was losing by two hundred I don't remember who's in his lineup but it was some combination of those guys and it was awesome what a great predictable sport of those guys on a team and a snake draft maybe not Michael Thomas and Chris McCaffrey but it's theoretically possible you have someone somewhere has all five which is hundred eighty two yards two touchdowns Greg from Michael Thomas but those guys yeah all had forty that does not include Amari Cooper who thirty nine point six fantasy points interior game by I don't see fuller is not going to be a guy that does that every week obviously this is more in line with what we were hoping from him three four hundred a bag of chips I don't know what the first thing you said was bouillon ammunition e a bouillon bullet while I gotTa Google that you get on that they love fantasy awesome great stuff how many of these are repeatable I mean obviously no one's gonna I mean McCaffrey I guess is probably the most reputable he's GonNa get like thirty points evacuated the interesting thing to me on that was that was the only the second time of Sean Watson's career that he was not sacked the other time he also threw five touchdown scene McCaffrey is getting you know north of ninety five percent of the snaps in the panthers offense I doubt that's GonNa Change a whole lot again that's it is worth only points but he left the game with cramps his back Reggie Boffon who Deka you have and you're like Thirty Person League with Matthew Barikot bonafide had a long touchdown same for one second I mean McCaffrey has been getting ninety five to ninety nine percent and in the what we call cows the tippety top Zeke Elliott's and people this is a little bit creepy but yes he's I don't think he's GonNa be big factor going forward you might get a few carries ear to spell McCaffrey but based on everything we ah look none of these things are going to happen again but I mean I think the real notable one for me in this is the the Texans Shawn Watson did not get sacked any only had one at eighty five so it's insane what he's been doing so he can scale back and still be fine another person Patrick mahomes on the Kansas City chiefs anyone who watched on Sunday football so he was the season but none of these are probably real repeatable. It'd be Michael never going to do it every week yeah I think Thomas Line is actually pretty Yep thirty nine passes he completed twenty to thirty nine passes three hundred twenty one yards a touchdown but thirteen of those seventeen complete thirteen of his first seventeen passes and one hundred back but he's come down to Earth over the last two weeks he's been obviously after three weeks he looked like he was just smashing all regression all the limping pro like a pronounced limp coming off the field after he got stepped on by one of their offensive Lineman Cam Irving Mahomes had twenty two out on your ass your he's really good at football interesting it's why should look into that it's hard for us right there let's get into next man up the a lot of injury fifty seven yards and that score came in his first two drives the rest came on the ensuing seven so he really was not the same after aggravated the ankle injury he aggravated actually the house McKee he McCaffrey had cramps but he said he was fine and that he was handed you know that I have that I have Reggie Bonifant in my dynasty league with not very don't worry about it this and we will let's just run through them all and the guys who are going to be filling it and so real quick it he's fine but worth touching Christian McCaffrey did leave this game which is funny to think about because he has yeah Matt Moore's as backup but I think he's GonNa play and just not one hundred percent patch mounts yeah I think overall you just have to downgrade the chiefs offense slightly I think he's GonNa Bounce the thought of any regression you know he's on pace to smash the passing yards record us on pace for like fifty three touchdowns I think this is after three weeks and then he's definitely come back miss this game he injured I in week one against Jacksonville hasn't not missing times been a full participant practice but also I would be very surprised if he was a hundred percent it's so every game is not been sacked five touchdowns you're seeing a correlation between line and playing well it's almost like when you're not flat sleeper for you guys this week that is probably going to step in for Wang Allman his name is saquon Barkley he's he's probably GonNa Return this week Earth over the last two weeks and so you just have to take that into account I mean all the all the chiefs skill position players are still completely started in my opinion but vice wants to the first half and then I got to step down in the second half he said after the game quote obviously it's going to be a little sore tomorrow and they play Houston next week so I'd be surprised Sammy Watkins Create Call it's unbelievable he left the game with a hamstring injury so to snaps the without walk ins the chiefs were using rutgers product John Hillerman nine he had nine carries for twenty yards but he's probably not going to be the main person to replace Wayne Goldman because we have a real great waiver next up we are weighing Goldman running back for the giants he suffered a concussion this game he just two carries for fourteen yards was replaced by Jersey native fine he told in rapport and Kimberly Jones of NFL DOT com. This is quote how can anyone tell me how long I'm supposed to be out maybe because of my competitor act week seven against Arizona Mason Rudolph quarterback for the Pittsburgh steelers suffered a scary scary concussion on a scary hit on Sunday women on the Ringer Dot Com wrote about how no NFL receivers anymore have eight in fact if you're listening to this trying to think of three and receivers who are have a number in the eighties tyler the contract tyreek Hill could return next week he practiced this week maybe it was gonNA play against the colts he did not play but could very well play against the Texans next week that was certainly helping homes this is just crazy so high ankle sprain hit high ankle sprain and who's going to be out for six to eight weeks sake one was not happy with this timely did say immediately after the bucks game where he hurt his ankle he said he told Jordan Renan of ESPN. I had the same injury at Penn state my freshman year I missed two games of nature but how are you gonNa tell me that no one was in the doctor's office with may known as C. my ankle everyone's different I think an important thing that Dr Anderson Dr o'malley said was you treat the patient the injury when I heard that I just took it heart everyone's pulling these messages out there and no one heard from my mouth that I'm out there six to eight weeks that be no sense at all now I respected that a lot because you know what it just lowers their ceiling slightly well speaking of which Sammy Watkins who was active on Sunday despite a shoulder injury used as a decoy which does anyone use more as a decoy than ages because I didn't study hodges before the draft and FCS version of trace mcsorley so version of someone who is what's going to happen he's going to miss two games that'll be back so saquon Barkley there is video of him running around on the practice field either pretty normal this was last week before and are infringing sure I'm going to be honest I I thought that was a madman generator name I actually didn't realize that was a real person so congrats the Byron basically he's not an NFL quarterback a scrambling running athletic I guess that means he doesn't have a very strong arm based on scattering reports it's now so I don't think Goldman's in good position to be clear from a concussion in three days I certainly hope not and then he'll so most I think a one week option and then sake once probably read that's it well now you ruined it anyway I'm sure everyone is gonna get tyler boyd read Rogers base anyway speed fast guys chiefs you do oh actually before I before you get to that I just want to put this out there Dana Burglar really good NFL draft analyst described you missed the game obviously this week the real impediment the giants play Thursday night so they'll play the patriots which is delicious wouldn't it wouldn't surprise would it surprise you if they kept one Asian out of Sanford Hodges went seven nine for sixty eight yards in relief of Rudolf do you know anything about Devlin Hodges do you know I do do you guys think Oh man I have no idea Texas I am GonNa pretend I know the answer such tell me now give me a guest Georgia it's an album basically got knocked out while he was still standing and it was very bad he was in league concussion protocol he was replaced by Devil Hodges who is a undrafted free week no because it's a short week I think it'd be no question so I- regardless I don't think it's necessarily worth picking up John Hillis your Villian patriots Patriot duck calling on the show I have no idea I had no idea that it was a competitive sport are you even sports fan decay let's get fantasy going for essentially both slot receivers ironically I think that the concern was that they would have overlapping skill sets and now it seems like they just won't overlap for a very long time aw basically all the receivers in that group and then hopefully they'll get their running backs a little bit more involved Bill Barnwell at ESPN floated that they could trade a late round pick for Ryan Fitzpatrick assume caller but then stop gave up the duck calling life when he went to college and we really gave up the dream he was like screw it I'm going to enter the The state tournament he became a signal caller and then he won and then he was going to be able to go for the qualified for the world championships but it was on a Saturday and he was a college football quarterback so tough Biz oh I don't know you know there's probably GonNa if he ends up having to start next week they're probably going to be doing a lot of that wildcats stuff with Jalen samuels kind of having to get a little bit crazy least maybe the beginning of the first half I was listening to the fantasy prose podcasts and they said that Sterling Shepherd has never scored a touchdown from the outside he's only scored touchdowns on the slot isn't it way to go game very fast guy yeah the the chiefs have a lot of very fast gyllenhaal numbered and the teens everyone's thirteen fifteen seventeen and they're also Roger Birds Out Darius slate and a receiver could be is probably much better real life player for the giants then he would be for your fantasy team right so I'm I love watching slate and I'm not sure breath letting who is for this imperative reporting Crispin any research Christopher deeney Devlin Hodges was a world champion junior dot com again and it doesn't seem like Rudolph is going to be ready to come back which I think is downgrade for Juju Smith Schuster Jan Johnson Ma I was close I was closer I win the real winner though is hodges is a world champion duck caller thank you all his second it was announced this morning Monday it was that was a late add to injury report this is second of the season so it could be a little bit from Dan Dan Dot Com. Let's move on for God's sake sterling shepard giants also had a concussion he isn't concussion protocol the run game which is always what you love to hear I don't know Adrian Peterson game against Miami in all seriousness they'd so they play the dolphins this week which was a major part of the think this affects the fantasy prospects for the Washington team now going forward I mean obviously Cowan came out immediately said or at least reports came out and said they're going to rededicate themselves jealous I did not think of that that was really let's let's play where what state is Stanford University and I looked it up a three concussion season is is really bad so I would not be surprised is Deka said this is an extended absence so actually of all the talk of Golden State Shepherd they're not really going to overlap for timing you want to soften the landing on the Interim Guy Yeah I actually think we'll learn whether the dolphins are Washington are a better team I know that sounds silly but like I think I mean the dolphins stuff so Jay Gruden you are free now also shouts to the Jagran coaching trip Sean mcvay Kyle Shanahan and mettler that's totally J. Gruden's coaching tree how do you guys over the first few weeks keenum actually was a pretty fantasy relevant starter and he helped make make Lorena fantasy relevant guy maclaurin been great but Jay Grins a nice guy as that he's necessarily a fancy at especially with the schedule coming up how do we feel about sterling shepherd with Golden Tate back I know he played mostly snaps the outside this week it's tough because golden tate and Sterling Shepard Miss Some pretty significant I mean I'm not a doctor but it's like a concussion does make you susceptible to concussions it's easier to get one if you've had one receivers this year so far by yards this does not include Monday night football for tonight isn't browns have not played it is to thirty two Pacific Time so Jon Gruden in Oakland which is insane so we don't talk about enough Jon Gruden traded from the raiders to the Bucks and the Raiders and Bucks Super Bowl that year crazy because golden tape missed the first four game suspension comes back for one game and now I wouldn't be surprised if shepherds out for a decent amount of time because all the reports all the reports we've seen her that he'll words through the season they are an order Michael Thomas with five hundred and forty-three Amari Cooper with five hundred twelve Chris Godwin of Tampa Bay with five hundred second one hundred yards then he joins US list it's less than ninety is not so these are the conveniently the top ten receivers are also the only ten receivers who have more than four hundred yard get a win could be the two right here so it sounds like they they haven't decided yet who the starter at quarterback and going to be which is a big deal case keenum over the first few years Avas Kelsey of the chiefs he's obviously the tight end he's at four thirty nine Tyler Boyd of the Bengals one of the few guys in the eighties at four zero six Portland Sutton of Denver at four career highlights arm can really reach out so he's throwing salt I last one next man up Jay Gruden head coach for Washington Arpita Jay one will fuller of Houston rounding out the top ten at four hundred on the dot yeah the tune in seventeen yard game helped does and then just when you're going this week which defense let's say Haskins place would you rather start Miami's defense or Washington's defense no Haskins is not gonNA play I think he shouts to titus and take nice guy triggered but when he said last week they asked him what the plan was a quarterback against the Patriots and he said we don't have a plan that was receiving yards and fantasy going down the list you have to there's a few guys that are just not surprising whatsoever Michael Thomas Mark Cooper Keenan Allen Kelly yeah but it's I mean the fact that we're actually discussing this it's it's bad it's fabulous all right well let's forget for goodness sake let's move on let's get some cats the top twelve and receiving yardage is more or less the same as the top twelve in scoring coolio swaps in and Mike Evans swapping because they've had extend that for one moment because Kelsey is in there John Brown of Buffalo's at three ninety and then Tyler Lockett at three seventy nine is that's the top twelve now see are not surprising whatsoever Godwin has three he has absolutely lived up to the hype and more I mean I think he's actually been better than then he also that thumbing in August but obviously concussions in the same year are a bit more serious gold is back angles at tight end so those seem to be the giants top two options while show downs Tyler Boyd and will fuller full out there not to fall a- not too far out but I really wanted to just ask you as I of that list stories I hope I got to saving I'm very excited for this deceiving yards they real they receiving are they D- saving you guys get it fool's gold or not I wanted to read off the top ten who do you think do those guys do you think are deceiving and are any of those guys so legit that you're like no they're going to stay top ten top five at the position going forward and fire him coming at five in the morning I corral so wh- I caramba replaced by a line coach Bill Callahan who also replaced excuse not that he's not going to put regards Cory Aquino would you rather play the dolphins the against Washington Washington against you don't actually was thinking about this and I think my head either have Miami really number one receiver. NPR Right now in points so that I mean yeah you can't get any higher that so that I think he is absolutely here to stay I mean he's that's kind of shocking like the Andrea Hopkins not their Juju not even close Julio had a couple good games and then his dropped off so that list any of the hype was saying which is really crazy to think about because like we talked about this preseason he's been a guy that has been sort of a high hyped up player for a few years eleven Cooper Cup of the rams the five Dj Shark of the jags with four hundred five Allen on the charge of the four seventy on sonic boom tells the story of basketball and politics wealth and power and reveals new truths about the NBA's greatest heist you can find the eight episode documentary podcast been the Go-to guy in the buccaneers offense he's he's runs out of the slot he's you know my Kevin's has been incredibly we're coming off a bye and I'm just less susceptible to believing that the you're GonNa get turnovers off a bye I still think I would take washing I think I would take at least have some pass rusher I think that's a fluke same with cooper cop who's four on this list I think he's here to stay just because the way that offense runs he's security blanket underneath for Gafa looks women a Lotta situations he's a great route runner and just based on the way that offense runs he's I think he's just going to be a really heavily targeted player all time yeah I was wrong isn't they're both very good and Mike Evans actually still has more areas in Godwin but God would just been super reliable and I think he's absolutely here to stay I don't the most the most consensus hyped player I've ever seen in fantasy that every expert was Chris Godwin and he's absolutely lived up to it he's the offer a Tornado I mean his re that's the ones recovery his recovery from that has been astounding so that one I think is really cool Story Cup he's the best receiver they have it's even cooks healthy like Cooper Cup is their best receiver which is amazing he was going to be hard to hype up that much just because he was so close we had zero literally zero points last week and so what do we do with him one has a player ever scored forty points and then zero points in the season before three than he had twelve touchdowns in the next five then eight this year four and his fantasy told us this year he's had forty one points and three sixteen and zero ch he people deal with that I think he's properly rated right I saw this tweet along those lines cadbury tweeted this today in the first half of week three which is notably against the do you know is a fantasy factor going forward but boyd is by far the best receiver in that in that group right now and is going to continue to get along the by low window for him seem to smash shut when he had those three touchdowns against the giants and then now it almost feels like it's opening in all of a sudden because he but I don't think anyone expected him to be this good he's at touchdowns in four or five games yet to this week I mean thirty six fantasy points this week he was absolutely unbelievable fishing so these are guys that were dropping line on who's a receiver not in the top ten receiving not in the top ten and people are scoring or someone who is based on the lack of production were I would bet my life since Sean Jackson Okay in the same season Mike Evans is having his career in a season he's had seasons of twelve touchdowns the next season he had says deceiving here's Tyler Boyd and yet there's reports that the bengals are going to be pretty open a trading aj green so even he's someone who probably won't lose volume so yeah he's he Ed's who have not been able to stop literally anyone this year he had thirty nine point six PR points in all other nine has a full four and a half games it's thirty nine points chemistry with Gardner Menchu from the jump like in the first game when government you entertain and I it's one of those chemistry things where it just hasn't ended or lack of consistency that you want to draw the line and see if you can snag in a trade I was just GonNa ask you guys this where are with Mike Evans at this point because it he's just so incredibly tumultuous I think he got a hold onto them and I don't think anyone's GonNa trade him but do you by are you going out looking for him or are you just Kinda like lead another also the real thing for me that stands out DJ charge against seeing his name at five of Keenan Allen and Kelsey in receiving yards amazing but the thing that stands up for me is he's had dreamed up by their offense coordinator John Filipa and it's been amazing to watch them so I mean is he the guy that drops out of the top ten view I mean I think so I think so he's I mean I'm not even to say that it's not even to say anything negative about him it's just the nature I don't know if he'll have the volume to stay in this list I don't think he's getting hey that he's not a good player but it just based on volume and everything like that I think you'll probably fall out of all people in this list he's probably the most shocking to me one of the people I think that really jumps out there's one touchdown pass this year was to DJ charge so you know it doesn't necessarily eliminate him from his last or whatever but I do suspect till fade slightly and that's not just get touchdowns every week you know what happens when Nick foles returns if if if Nick foles gets the job back now of course he's a he's another just fantasy stud in the PR Rome especially just because he gets so many targets he's the only guy left that offense I mean we've talked about often tate you just have they're just on the same page whether it's even when the play breaks down like mint she's gotten so much credit for being able to extend the play and kind of like there's video from John the ground like a jet I and avoiding all the broncos defenders chart digits you can find it like knows where he wants to be but also just it's been really great passing game I think there's your answer I don't know but also still leads the entire NFL in yards through five it was the first half of the NFL game right I can just run through devante Parker anybody can get area or do you have do you not to be good any number can be misapplied or misunderstood it's about can you difficult people let go he was the unanimous number one before the season except here but hopkins is not broken ninety yards since week one he's still eighth and targets though and giant's game probably a good chunk of it as a twenty three percent target share so all the metrics are there that he's a Bilo but I honestly at this point I'm maybe kind of lie the proper amount of context to Anaya agree but I think people don't really do the research on errands and they just hear it now as a buzzword and just assume that it automatically translates to fantasy relevance on his Deandra Hopkins it's when someone took him in the first round there's a certain psychological rupture that has to happen for you to trade your first round pick things think that hopkins could I mean he has valley's like this sometimes just without the touchdowns that's the difference in the last few weeks he touchdowns are GonNa come in not let's them wind up getting into perfect inform and then week seventeen it's the dolphins again and they can just rest it's unbelievable air yards are great and then he's just shitty again it's all right you know what let's just cut to the chase coup did you lose this week because of the air yards I feel like this is very personal person aww volume and they're playing they're throwing a lot and they're playing a lot of place so that's also good for for fantasy production real action all right so we're going to drag this list into gun the cowboys the Texans the chiefs and Gordon's like a top five most talented receiver in the League so I think now if you can't a few weeks early by him because they're going to need to use it's tough situation you have those those guys were worried about but these are the guys you're not supposed to worry about which is actually the guy's supposed to worry about it's an Internet joke but I think people get I think this is just strictly related the pats killing everybody and just don't need us Josh Gordon and after the week ten by the pats start to play real football teams that play the Eagles Hopkins Hopkins owner is willing to get rid of them that's a general world for anyone is you know you don't WanNa try to go buy low and someone is still believes but if you can find someone who doesn't believe in Hopkins Right love it and it's looking like cording to Doug Peterson now Howard is GonNa kind of just he's GonNa take on a bigger role at least in the ground game he's GonNa Start Down look down the road it's kind of insane how the pats if you look at the schedule it's almost like a launching pad it's a skateboard ramp where it's like it perfectly both scored last week James Connor said two weeks I don't think he's going to have two good weeks again probably like I just think they're all line doesn't look great the quarterback situations of mass I would thing way from it do you guys think has gone too far that's that's the only stat anyone talks about now and it's like well aired statistic is you know I could have one hundred yards a game in becoming barrages I would definitely reach out if someone's getting a little antsy about Hopkins and trae someone I think doing every to do to get going forward I think sanders is almost sanders has become the more Rostro bowl running back in the eagles lamp which has is dead got patriots last year is there anyone else you drop a line on criteria I would try and get rid of and sell James Cotter and Ju- If I can his fantasy points this season he scored fourteen to eleven six and eight he said decent target totals four five eleven seven and eight he's playing a ton of snaps around like eighty five percent game I think being a bigger factor on the ground for for the eagles he's looked a lot better than sanders at least on the ground sanders is made a few big plays in the air but dating from me you you have a lot of sanders stock I don't have a lot of it but it was just I mean I think Howard is kind of the Ed who's The guy you're not supposed to worry about running back Jordan Howard is the eagles has sort of officially become a thing now he okay so he's still in his personal that's a stat of the year who was it Nice Brown no it certainly wasn't although we did bet on him person I would draw the line AH pretty even snap snap count with Mile Sanders the rookie mal sanders who everyone was really excited about including me coming into the season sanders thing just has not happened I still believe in Hopkins to with you on that one craig tropical line on yeah I would drop a line on Josh Gordon on the pats he's currently the wide receiver forty-one and the interesting thing is that even when Mason Rudolph is playing my Thoman said away we can make his life easier to fifty as a week instead of seventy obviously it's not good for fantasy Gannett supposed to worry about Portland Sutton my guy receiver on the broncos this is the number one receiver on the broncos as four hundred one receiving it's wonderful wonderful this is what's on streaming for all you cord cutters out there I will never let that joke day just dress dreaming for streaming for weeks Donald does not put either way cowboys are pretty good one don't let that Green Bay performance full you do you didn't eagles have ten sacks yeah that's the extent of my announce seven when the seas rise into the land is when you can start talking to Jordan Howard still plotting for four point two yards per carry okay give me a better give me a better a perfect example of the really boring veteran back that it's like the Frank Gore thing with with Devon single everyone's really excited about Devon Single Tori but frank gorgeous all of those figures lead the Broncos Denver does not have what I would call a prolific passing attack but the guy he's a second year guy and he's amazing and I love him already the junior fluky Oh yeah was try I would try but also be willing to hold on and maybe selfish one more good week but don't go away and that's Jordan Howard with the eagles he just won't go away and he's got forty hours ten more years is not going away before you can compare him to frank or twenty twenty thirty five points so yeah it's my heart hitting analysis right there I'm with you on now on my streamer the week is pressing Williams receiver for the dolphins easily owned seventy percent of of Yahu Leagues He leads the dolphins and targets this year with thirty as twenty

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Steelers Q&A: The Steelers' offense is playing with house money, time to go all-in

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Steelers Q&A: The Steelers' offense is playing with house money, time to go all-in

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The first time we went on the air I had never spoken to Lance. It's Williams before my life literally. It was okay. We're live in three two one. My Name's Jeff. His name's lands nothing about you that you have in California uh-huh Nice here. We are six seasons later. Still doing the show. Our podcast Platt Platform has really expanded. I've really proud out of the product that we put out. Not just our show but for Brian. Anthony Davis Dave Scofield. Tony Thank you all for all the work but really thank you to through the viewers and the listeners that have really helped grow this channel and get his near five thousand subscribers on Youtube and we're having our biggest month on our our podcast platform where well over four thousand downloads. A day a day. Where over that mark and we're so the next goal because we got that four thousand next goals five thousand? It's doable can only do by you. All liking the shows. And you're being a part of the community and sharing it to all the other steelers brethren out there ever lance any particular. Thanks to give today. I WanNa thank you jeff. Thank you for grinded. I mean you grind and I know listeners out there Jeff grinds man. Jeff has a Gordon and his personal life. Jeff grise Jeffers Professional. Ed Jeff is very deferential in very humble and I think that comes off into shows in that's part of the reason why I think the site has grown so march you know jeff is dedicated to any grind. I mean he keeps us all motivated and he keeps us all on it so there are days when we're like come on man bites. Why are we really to show like this really talk about Jeff grinds Jeff Works and You know thank you for you jeff for this. There's an thank you for the steelers for bringing outstanding content. I mean 'cause this year has been also busy last year and a half with Mr Third Martin V that Mr Butler naked and robbed man. This is just been a great year to really talk about The steelers there's been a lot of talk about. I mean even in season Ben Enron burgers injury Mason Rudolph promoted Fitzpatrick Trade Duck season. His now on Pittsburgh it's crazy man. It's absolutely crazy but I want to get to this year. Five dollars ehlers from shield ninety-one who's a longtime year of the podcast. He says you guys are committed. Thank you guys never wannabe. TSE first season with guys loving it look forward to many more happy Turkey Day Shield. Thank you very much and happy Thanksgiving to you and all the people that are in the live chat right now We have another one here. dollar ninety nine. He says thankful to listen to you guys. We appreciate that Really IT'S A. It's a labor of love. I mean here we are on Thanksgiving Day. Doing a podcast. Talking about the steelers was it. Lands are fans and I think that's what we tried to convey in these podcasts. Is that were gear trying to give it bring an analytical view from a Fan's perspective right perfect I'm of Iowa homer I would have a home land ater. It's like H H homer and hater. That's what we call the show from Alan over and over and the hater perfect because the rumor is I am with Fan. The rumor as rumor. Okay we are GonNa talk about the steelers and not just wax poetic about the podcast platform and things of that nature. I title this show before we get to some questions. I feel like the Pittsburgh steelers offense which last night on the steelers the standard. I kind of said awful they. They are awful statistics. Show that they're awful. They are a bottom tier offense in every single category. That matters. We're talking twenty fifth or worst award. I are worse not worse. I'm sorry worse and I just feel like we're taking over lands. Would you say the expectations vacations has never been lower for this offense. Yeah I mean absolutely coats said. I hope he doesn't kill us so we can't get any lower right right right so for me. I look at it. It's okay you can go one directions here. You could go ultra conservative. Which I sadly I think that Mr Feet nurse there's GonNa probably go in that direction or you could go the direction that I will go in? And that's we're playing with house money all in blue chips sir in. Let's roll the dice because no one's expecting that. No one's expecting that Cleveland's going into this game and they're saying we're going to load the box eight players in. We'll go amanda man because I don't think Juju misusers GONNA play. We're going to stop the run because obviously that's what Pittsburgh is gonNA WANNA do. We're going to stop the run. Were Not GonNa let them check the the ball down. beat us down the field. Well beat them down the field lands which side would you go on ultra-conservative or you all in like I am. I Hate I might go ultra conservative. I might go ultra conservative until I have to go. Then you did. It doesn't work though. It doesn't work in that instance you have to come out blazing. So what does that look like this. That look like Lay Action passes early four out. No I think you throw out of non-conventional formations. I would run. I would come out if I may rain defeated defeating again. I am not because half the stuff that idiot does I would not do too thank you I appreciate that. That's not really saying much anyways I would come out either you know. What my favorite formation is lands of talked about it a million times? I love that bunch formation because it's so versatile you can run out of it you can throw out of it. I think that even with the Jujubes misusers not in the lineup with James Washington. Really coming on Superman Dion Kane as a deep. The threat is fast. You can get vertical. I'm coming in and saying hey. We're GONNA run versatile formations play action passes early in the. What's the worst case? Scenario outside of a turnover is you're going to back the defence off. The defense is going to say wait a second. They're we're going there taking shots whether successful or not they're going to realize that we can't sell out and put everyone in the box. We need to back up. We need to backup backup and play more coverage in Nannu might be out of soften 'em up and run so that's what I would do. You're saying you're going all conservative. Yeah I probably try to run the football ball. Try to establish the run short. You're going run. Run run past kit. Do probably I'm GonNa have to play defense but the ones to your point Jeff. I mean we all know what's going to happen on Sunday. They're going to have at least one turnover so they should be used to so turning the football. Although Tomlin's cited that is one of the reasons that Mason Rudolph was bitch at least one turnover should not make the steelers squeamish. I mean they've turned the ball over in what seventeen eighteen games in a row king games in a row. They've I've had five interceptions in the last two so they should be used to it so they shouldn't be overly squeamish should affect that they need to you know maybe loosen things up and lead. Sling it also. I liked to let them utilize ducks. Legs little RPO stuff to your side of the ball a little more RPO stuff Let let duck duck. Dude let the duck fly you know. Fly Robin Fly. But I want to do it in a conservative fashion. I started off by the redgate inflator to the defense is GONNA play browns defensive hands. You're going to be up to another slow start. I would rather than go three and out by taking shots being aggressive than I would see them bound. They're paying bang their heads into the wall over and over again but Grayson Brown gives us ninety nine. We appreciate that very much. He's a big up to you. Both Hall Orlando at home with native. Happy Thanksgiving y'all offense can't go all in because the offensive coordinator isn't all in. He can't leave mouse to cheese in a straight line. It's pretty good. Because he got it to you Grayson. Thank you And he I think he's right though in I it's might be coming down from on the top and when I say the top I mean you might call one you. Listen to Tomlin's comments as Mason Rudolph over it's been don't kill us in so I guarantee if eaters playing along the script and saying okay. Don't kill you I will not going to kill you. I'm GONNA be called conservative. Plays so you believe that the rainy feeders not all in on being aggressive. This episode is sponsored by Stash. A SMARTER SIMPLER WAY TO START. Investing with Sash you can begin. Investing in a wide array of companies and diversified funds for as little as five dollars stash offers unlimited trading with no add on trading commission. So you can invest without worrying about getting nickel and dimed. 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They were excellent. Iran's on last year which was astonishing because they were number one in the national football league in a red zone but I guess best case of any ready any feet can get a nut or any squirrel could get enough you see ban on the sidelines wearing a headset. I mean why. Don't they just let Mr Three hundred recall someplace famous for three hundred blotting weight and not in not in the museum the metric system. Here we're talking poundage is what's that metric were they give you with the numbers that you go to the doctor it. A measure unit numbers like forty deflect twenty two BPI or way your body mass index BMI. Yes that might be bids. BMI three hundred. Yeah Yeah let Mr Three hundred calls someplace. Hey I want to bring this up. The steelers just released their injury injury report. This is a breaking news. Done done bent. The I was pretty good. We need to have that sound or cases as a Juju Smith Schuster missed his second straight. Practice did not participate with the knee. Remember we said this last night in case you didn't see that show what you should go back and it is the Juju Smith Schuster has been released from the concussion protocol so he is not in the protocol no longer but did not practice for a with a knee. Injury does not look good for him on Sunday. Artie Artie Burns. Which I knew everyone was losing sleep about him? Not Practicing Wednesday he was back is a limited participant. James cotter shoulder injury didn't practice. Wednesday was a limited limited practice participant. Thursday I don't know what to think about this because you know. He went on his radio show and basically said you know. He's not sure if the is his shoulder older needs time to heal he has an. AC joint sprain if anyone knows anything about the body the human body it's GonNa need time to heal dot going to happen overnight. And so for that. I think that if Connor smart if he thinks that he's even not even close to ninety percent. Don't risk it. Because you're a running back you're GONNA get popped period Ramon foster was given the day off not injure related in Alejandro Villanueva who is limited with shoulder yesterday was a full participant today. So that's good news for the steelers offensive line and and that's it. That's it for their injury report. You don't to your point if you were talking about going full throttle you know Google on one hundred fifty miles an hour Devon Hodges arches duck and the game the difficulty with that and. I'm not saying I wouldn't do that. I'm not saying it's a bad idea though. But the difficulty with that is with the offense of weapons or lack thereof RAV. It's kind of hard to go tra aggressive because you know if these guys can make plays I mean you got a lot of young pieces some guys that have just get to the squad. I mean your best wide. Receiver is James Washington. That should tell you everything. And that's no knock to James Washington who did his best van animal impression last week. Well let me be a little bit more specific in regards to what I said about being aggressive. That doesn't necessarily mean you're going the three verticals deep every time. It means that you're attacking the middle of the field. It means that the think about the past that they threw to James Washington. On the seventy nine nine yard touchdown think back. It wasn't a deep bomb where he caught it over shoulder in walk ten yards into the end zone. It was a catch over the middle and then yards after the catch. I want to see more of those type of throws down the Middle Dad. Something that we've both talked a lot about how Mason Rudolph struggled attacking the middle of the field between the numbers right. I think Devon Hodges does that better and so be aggressive with it and run some play action and get the tight ends involved. I don't think there's any way if there's if you're going to surprise any anybody with this defense it's going to be the fact that the tight end has been nonexistent since the Seattle Seahawks Game Mason. Rudolph came in in relief of Ben Rothlisberger two three two touchdowns to Vance McDonald. Since then I think Vance McDonald has only one touchdown and has been absolutely non factor in the football game. Get them going early and I think you can. You can put them on their heels. And that's what they should be trying to. I don't disagree with you there terms of trying to get the tide in involved they have. You're right titans. Just don't get targets. You always have these great ideas for Dave to bring up on the stack EEK show and you guys check that out big up Dave scofield field as well. Happy Thanksgiving a David his family and to who spent Brian. Anthony Davis Hashtag. JUST TAKE IT HASHTAG MR two. Am That's funny. Every time the titans have to get involved in just maybe that. Let's say they try to really establish the run God but maybe they target the titans times in a game. Now if you if you say that I'm buying that I'm buying that because tied in throws I think are safer safer throws And I think if they did that in the Office of game plan that would shock. Everybody just like me right if you know me. I don't like shop. I don't like to go to a mall so if I ever wanted to hide out and never be found I will just go to the mall because no one would ever look for me there. You would never find me. He would just be a mall like every day. The eating cinnabar's which absolutely terrible inches high for like years over five. That's like vinet and Vance McDonald like you'll never either. What a football field? Because they don't get targeted all they do is block and you know if you came out with a game plan to try to attack attack the middle in between the numbers or between the Hashes with tight ends. I think that could be effective. That could be something that would surprise the browns but the question is is you got ready feed. They're calling plays. Yeah some some of the route combinations. They've been really mind boggling to think back back to the Monday night game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah you remember the over. Under row combination. They ran where Juju Smith Schuster came. Underneath and Deonte Johnson went over the top and the safety safety bid on Juju and that left Deonte Johnson Wide Open. They just maybe it's their not allowing the place to develop long enough. I'm just not seeing those either It's just just it's just bad and so let's change it up. That one thing I've seen on film is when they try to run picks or rub concepts. You guys are familiar with that. Is Essentially is when receivers kinda cross cross themselves in opposite directions with design. That defensive backs won't pass it off. They'll follow the wide receiver and Kinda bump into each other. Freeing one of those guys up a lot of times I've seen it this year with a receivers aren't running them with the proper depth. Is there almost hitting each other. And I've seen it not once but like a lot of times is where literally the receivers are counter running. He tried to get out of the way of themselves. which when you you do that? It kind of ruins the whole concept of running a rob or a pick pick being the illegal description of it rubbing the you know the legal description description of a half of the New England patriots offense Yes exce- rubs and picks I mean where run well sounds like Robert Kraft got involved in that somehow. Hashtag who rub into crafty took. That'd be great. T shirt HASHTAG TUG Graft to G KIARA AF T. I interrupt you and so we have a couple of super chats get spiral bomber gives us twenty bucks. Happy Thanksgiving fellas happy Thanksgiving to you. We appreciate that a lot free. She absolutely snowman. He's five bucks he says I'm thankful the BTS'S STAFF JEFF LANCE MR bad dave scofield. The snowman is he's a regular he donates all the time. Five does tip jar. Thank you very much frosty. Yeah it's his time of year Let's go some questions for the show. We're GONNA do some rapid fire questions folks so I'm putting this in the live chat. Yeah right now. Getting focused rapid fire rapid fire questions. So give us some questions that we can rattle off quickly and Lance Barber waiting waiting. You'd never gave your score prediction from last night. Because you didn't give a number you said you wanted the breath out the browns we're GonNa win and we all expected that there were many rejoiced just over that decision but you never gave us a score. What do you see this final score being seventeen nine Not even get in the end zone once no come holly red zone seventy nine okay. Easy seventeen nine hundred. Twenty seven twenty Pittsburgh hits per wins in case you missed the show last night. Here's the thing too. I predicted I was doing some questions and answers stuff with Dogs by nature in. That's the BSE. See Brown's website and I said twenty seven. Twenty predicted may make Fitzpatrick is going to get his bid on a football again. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football. PODCAST it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what I mean is console spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro. Wrestling's too unfashionable. Pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football. Every every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early. And unfashionable pants. That coaches wear now. If you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it it should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. So Adept Break Adele. Jeff how do they get the twenty-seven that's got to be really creative thinking I just WanNa see where your you know the Beautiful Mind that great movie about the mathematician Dr Nash. We're talking Dr Jeff Heart. I think they're going to get a couple touchdowns I did say I think one of them is going to be a defensive touchdown. So if you get to fourteen you get to fourteen you have a basel fugel seventeen eighteen nother Boswell scored three touchdowns so duck has a couple of touchdown passes. Possibly I think he's GonNa Throw for two and I think they're gonNA have a defensive offensive. One I don't think they rushed for a touchdown. So give me give me the stat line for duck in this in this predicted. Victory by the Reverend. Dr Jeff Heart Devon Hodges will be. I think he's going to have a really high completion percentage. I'm GONNA say like nineteen of twenty five and he's GonNa Throw for two hundred and twenty yards two touchdowns no interceptions and who also rushed for twenty five yards. Wow because he knew he reminds reminds me of. He reminds me a little bit Baker Mayfield flow that he can move in the pocket. He doesn't have the strongest arm ever. He's not ridiculously Accurate he's accurate but Baker Mayfield's criticize. He's not really tall guy he can get outside the pocket and make some plays with his legs. I watched a little bit of that I went back and watched a little bit the ravens game. When he came in people forget he had some nice scrambles for some big yardage in that game so so he's the popper Baker? He's the very report version of thinker. Mayfield Hopper feel yeah. Oh I'm on a roll today. Popper fields a good one Hashtag tug craft. That's another. I'm already first rapid fire questions here. I am okay so you already answered this all answer though cody marshalls is how many red zone. TD's land says says zero. I'm going to say I'M GONNA say one they're going to get one Ryan Kellerman more carries white. That's karat white or trey. Trey Edmunds white. I agree man. I can live chat. Okay here. We go if the steelers lose to the browns sounds again. Is The coaching staff and question. No I don't either not the way. They've got a battled back battle back. William Aquin Hyun read says is this game dig for Mike Tomlin. He feels that it is yes in the sense that if they win they probably have a good shot to go to the play offs. No no in the sense of is it going to cost him his job because Thomas not getting fired as long as bins around and because of what Jeff said. They've battled back to me six and five. I mean you're playing with three quarterbacks this year to be six and five and the sixth seed going into the twelve game of the season I mean whether we like it or not order fans like it or not. That coaches staff is doing a great job and I think Mike Tomlin is at this point in his career where half the fan base is going to give them love the other half is I think he's fine with it he just keeps getting them checks. He doesn't live in his fears. We know that the sum of all fears Greg. Great wage any news on how Benz we have going. I'm going to answer this quickly and say it's not because we now have dubbed him. Mr Three hundred going well. There fork is forecast working overtime overtime. He has all this gravy and his beard and stuff today. It's looking like a slob. Let me let me say. I'm a huge Ben Rothlisberger fan literally. I have a huge fan but I've always. I'm also a huge fitness guy and he is always disappointed me in that regard. So here's a great question from captain. Underpants he says we win without a takeaway. Why did it predict the win anyway so I would say no? The Hater Says No. The homer says hater over it. Would it be hater at home or homered hater show. It depends on if you're going owned by Alphabetical I. I like homer and hater. I do like homer ater okay. That's that's a good show. Let's see here. Nobody takes that show also also. Because he's you to. If you hear the homer in hater show we said here. I tagged copyrights has all right. Just me says what are watts number. So give me. I gave Devon Hodges numbers what do you think. TJ What Stat Line is I'm GONNA go to sacks seven tackles seven tackles two sacks. Yeah I'm just GONNA say seven tackles five five solo to assisted. It's hard to do as neue. Oh yes two sacks. He's Gary see Tuesday's house. They choose axe and four quarterback. I think he's all over on like that. I like if you believe in two and four all right so grayson asks did the steelers get one hundred yard rushing game Sunday. No I don't think they do. But here's another okay. Let's compound that and say do they have one hundred yards rushing total. No Yes yes because I predicted that they'll be twenty five of those yards it'll be in scramble variety of Devlin hodges accounts how about yards as per carry three above or below three and a half below. I'll go right three. Yeah I think below if you take out the scrambles that you predict for twenty five yards if we're being true degenerate gamblers we would have said under in not below but for others. Degenerates generates out there. That are pissed. We said that mark says does baas Miss a field goal. No way that boy money he is money Hashtag Hashtag bosses money eight. He's he's back to. He looks like he's back to his two thousand seventeen as only one mis kick today missing and I gotTa make can three field goals hits the nine points. Denver says we should have do shirts printed up homer and hater funny for us to get like one it over it hater. Yes definitely again. We colors like I wear gold. You could wear black. We homer and hater hater. Eight that work all right then we could have people always like we should tell people. Hey you can buy these shirts if if you're a home or are you a shirt. And if you're a hater you get lance I like this. I Know Jeff you will make it happen. I'm going to do my best. I'm going to do my best all right. Captain underpants underpants as. What's the turnover margin in this game? Obviously I think it will be even. I think both teams as we'll get a couple of turnover steelers get to browns get to and soda plus minus will be even Greyfield says. Let's see any kind of compounds. The idea idea for the teacher saying I'm with homer and I would hate her. Yea We gotta do your debt debt debt. That would be pretty good. Debbie pretty good. That'd the excellent absolutely that'd be good spiral bomber ass. If any snow ends up being a really good running back by the end of the season what would his name be. I guess has to basically it would turn into like we used to call. 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FTP Ep. # 149: NFL Week 11 ATS & DFS Picks

Fantasy Throwdown Podcast

43:59 min | 2 years ago

FTP Ep. # 149: NFL Week 11 ATS & DFS Picks

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast bringing you the latest sports news fantasy analysis and opinions don't forget the hot takes and have a sports show without heartaches these days. What about hotcakes though, I want some odd case? Now, here's your host ready to jump into the thick of things Dwayne calendar. Welcome to the show. Thank you for listening. Everyone get quite a bit to talk about on this NFL Sunday. Get recap a little bit of the action yesterday in what amounted to a very quiet day in college football. Even though there is a bit of drama going on in the big ten between Michigan and high stay having to go down to the wire to pull off victories in what should have been cakewalk matches. Basically all the top teams in college football decided to take a BI week and scheduled much weaker competition amongst the top eighteenth. I mean, it was pretty much cakewalk say for many of these teams I mean, Alabama's playing the citadel although that game was tied at halftime showing just how little Alabama cared about the game itself until Nick Sabin ripped into him at halftime. But you know, at the face of it, you know, the prime time matchup on ESPN ESPN. ABC just because they alternate depending on your region. But you know, it UCF against Cincinnati should never be the marquee matchup. But that's how weak the slate was yesterday in college football. You had you had to put UCF in prime time. 'cause there's nothing else to play. I mean, realistically like clemson's in a cakewalk against Duke. And yes, I know Duke is stronger this year that in years past, but it's still Duke football. I mean, come on. Let's be out for our selves here people. I mean, it's Duke. So I, you know, at the end of the day, you had what was supposed to be the match up of the day between Notre Dame and Syracuse, and unfortunately, the game was over before really began because Syracuse senior quarterback Eric Dungy gets injured on a QB scramble. Halfway through the first quarter. And you know, I thought Syracuse was gonna put up a great fight. I mean, the spread was nine half ten points. I had money on Syracuse truth be told and as soon as I saw Dungy right around the ground like I fired up the live betting app, and like how to put my money back on Notre Dame just to cover myself. I soon as I saw him writhing around. I'm like this game's over. Syracuse didn't have any options other than Dungy moving around being a mobile tank and just taking a bunch of hits. And you know, it just got a hit in a bad spot injured hip, and you know, that was all she wrote. I mean Syracuse offense did nothing the rest of the game against Notre Dame defense. And I mean, it was thirty six to three blowout. I mean, there was nothing. Honestly, there was nothing else. Syracuse could have done about that game. Wants Dungy went down. Because once he went down like there were one man offense. They offense is predicated on our PO. Oh plays in Dungy being able to scramble take some hits deal some damage of his own and keep the ball moon for Syracuse as a mobile QB. But once that was taken out. I mean it was a rap. You know, nothing you can do about that. So, you know, you just had a budget games account for ball where it was just along the lines of. Somewhat interesting. You had the Maryland almost pulling off the upset of a highest state. But I keep saying this to folks, and the reason why you can't take a higher state seriously. And no, it's not the fact that the entire university like covering up an entire domestic abuse investigation for over three years. It's not even it's not even the off the field stuff. It's the fact that a high state does not have a defense. They have no defense whatsoever. So they get exposed every time they play especially on the road. But realistically against a halfway decent offense that a highest state teams giving up thirty five points a game easy. There's no getting around it like they cannot stop anyone that has any remotely above average are. So once that happens. I mean, how states always going to be in the shootout? And you know, it's it's. A case where you know, if I'm urban Meyer, and I'm seeing this do I really want to go into football playoff from no defense. And the the fact that I got to go up against teams with good defenses that can actually mall my quarterback who's NFL prospect, and I get smashed on national television yet again in the playoffs and air. I really I'm very very much interested in seeing how urban Meyer takes us kiss this. There's a real chance that Ohio State beats Michigan whom I'm also not entirely sold on either. Both Michigan Ohio state have their foibles where I could say like either one of these teams can make it in to the college football playoff, and I can easily see both of them getting absolutely crushed in the college football playoff. So once that happens, then it just turns into a very very awkward situation where I. I could just see going sideways for eater though squad. So you know, they've been escape, but at the end of the day, they both have some question marks data. I think would easily get exposed by top tier team. So moving off from college football, we anthem MBA actualized night. And, you know, always while I'm talking about the NBA is the fact that somebody dropped sixty and still managed to lose the game. I'm talking about Kemba Walker of the Charlotte Hornets Hornets lose at home to the Sixers and it's Jimmy Butler. You know, say what you will about Jimmy Butler being an awful teammate. The fact that matters demand knows how to get it done because even though he was not shooting. Well, if you go back through the game lock he was making some plays defensively. Even though he was still giving my Kemba Walker that that's that's one of those size where it's like sometimes you got guys that can put Pat stats and some guys that are just Gabor's. Jimmy Butler was getting his ass handed to him by Kimbal Walker and yet still makes a block at the end saves the ball. From going out of bounds to retain it and drains to game winning three pointer or like this all happens. It overtime. You know? It's just one of those things where like you could you could say what you want about Jimmy Butler and believe me do Butler to me cannot be max contract guy. Because to me max contract guy has to be able to bring up the quality of the team all around him without being distraction and Jimmy more often than not cannot help himself because of his personality. He's a prickly personality, and he basically gets in guys faces when they don't meet his level standard of play. And so when that happens, you know, it turns it into a very awkward situation. So again, you got a guy like Marquel Foltz now playing less than twenty minutes of game Marquel? Foltz is a. Is a first round draft pick in the top three. I mean, you got votes number one draft pick. I mean. Number one draft pick from two years ago. I haven't played twenty minutes a game. That's that's honestly, the Quami brow is less of a bus Marquel. Foltz is at this point. But here's the thing. You can't play Marquel? Full to Jimmy Butler together during bowler will shred Marquel? Foltz on new one because Marquel Fulton shooting foibles were he can't actually shoot a jump shot anymore like physically it's heater physically. More Kilfoyle to shoulder. So jacked up at this point that he hits you to proper NBA jumper anymore or mentally. He can't get over to hurdle of be having his shoulder injured to the point where he's got the amount block effect of the actual mechanics of doing a repeated action over a course of time. They lose that ability. It happens with baseball players. I. Almost never seen a habit to a basketball player. But that's what Marquel. Foltz reminds me of. He reminds me of the catcher in baseball can't throw back to the pitcher. Or a second basement. No block who can't throw the first base. You know, it's just one of those things work. You see him trying to take jump shots. He was three or six. Yes. But again, it's an awful looking shut. It's like it's so unnatural of shooting motion. And if you look at the tape of him now compared to where was you'd swear it was a completely different guy. Like if you look at it. It's like you figured he had a twin brother who is not nearly talent playing in the NBA. You suspect that this was the same Marquel? Foltz play for Washington. But it is what it is. But Kemba Walker, you know, an elusive effort for the Hornets puts up sixty you know, goes twelve or throw from the free throw line. You know, he I don't know. What else you can do your hip Walker abbey? The truth of the matter is is that the Hornets are. Ab- low average roster toll has like Tony Parker's. Basically, they're collecting a paycheck because he can't really hang in the league anymore. But you know, if you look at the rest of the Rosser, it's just it's not a good team right now. There's just not that much else. You can say about it. I mean, it's just a case of you know. Kemba Walker has to do it all and Kim woke is a free agent coming up. I would not be surprised if Kemba Walker being sick of losing in Charlotte. Cubs over to the Dick's because if you got lose, well, it's a lose at home Eggy paid a lot of money by the Knicks. I mean, I know Knicks fans would like to see Kemba Walker to guard. They would answer kept Walker will be part of the solution. I'm the. I'm really sold on that yet. But I would like to see a Walker just for selfish reasons because I think he's a fun Blair to watch. But you know, at the end of the day, you know, walk. I mean, a Shirley is just a case of you know, Michael Jordan has just made a bunch of bad decisions. I I mean, the fact that he did extent Kemba Walker to begin with, you know, was a head scratcher because there's not a whole lot going out that team. So let's he's going to blow up the roster for the third time since he's been the odor of the Hornets in less than ten years because MJ is turned this roster over bolted times already, and it still has a work Marvin Williams were maids a bust there. There's no way there's no way of slicing it. I mean, it's thirteen years of being a complete another bus and he's still playing over twenty five minutes a game. It's crazy. But. That. And then they still got Cody Zeller on like there's some bad players like some bad player. So this Charlotte team is like. Anyway, I gotta get into the NFL action here because we're ready run behind schedule. So anyway, looking at the slate of games today. This is one of the hardest DFS slates I can think of to pick because. Honestly the truth. The truth of the matter is the pricing of the DFS Teves this year. I mean, especially for this week compared to the rest of the year. It's just all over the map. I just can't get a feel for what thought process the powers that be at draft Caixa fan duel had in mind because they got way too many keep options at running back. It's almost impossible to figure out what the truck plays going to be because they're a ton of great place this week. But let's get into the game picks. I it out. I'll I'll read a back with the the actual defense picks because this is going to be a very tricky to navigate. So it turns a week eleven the slate. Looks starts off with the what o'clock games obviously you got Texans and Redskins. You know, Texas, minus three. You know someplace they're laying two and a half, depending on your pool. But I I look at this game. And I'm saying to myself why she did has so many injuries at the moment with the offense of light Washington is predicated on being able to control the line of scrimmage Texans. You know for all the complaints. I make about Bill Bryant the defense always shows up. We got the week. So I don't see where Washington scores points. Even though they're at home. I don't see I don't see scenario where they could score twenty points in this game. So that requires the defense to hold down the Andrea Hopkins and the Mary Thomas because coming off the bye week. You know, you got you gotta deal with various Thomas having an extra week to learn to playbook and coup. Kikuchi is should we get to go today? I just look at it. This is just a bad match up for Washington. Even though there. At home. It's not a good match of right now. They got too many injuries. I gotta take the Texans here that so much because I think Texas over that of a team it's just a wash it likes to do. And what the Texans are good at. You know, it's not a good batch of right out for watched giving their injuries that they were healthier on the office of defensive lights. Yeah. I could take Washington. But not right now they've got their down four linemen on the offense of light. I mean, I it's just it's just a train wreck down the office lead defense of lies down pretty much. Every starter has miss time this year for Washington this year on the fence of light. So I just cannot recommend them in any capacity. So I would have to take Texas here. Looking at the next match-up ravens hosting the Bengals Joe flacco is out with the hip injury, which was expected. So you got Lamar Jackson making his first NFL start the line actually jumped on this one from the ravens lane three points to now laying six and a half seven points. I mean based on the flacco news alone. I mean, people are all in a Lamar Jackson. I'm in Jackson for defense there. But because the price is so cheap bottom. But you know, looking at the bagels defense there. They had the fire they had to fire the federal coordinator after giving up fifty one last week marvelous if he wants to keep his job east gotta take back the reins of the be the defense coordinator, but you know. It's it's still going to be a working progress for the Bengals because AJ agreed still going to be out bunch of injuries or that defense right now, they're just that healthy. And the ravens should be able to take advantage of this. Even if they have to simplify the offense Dow to word right road left through down the middle or option a option out to run play and supply the offense to that. Except for labar Jackson. They're still gonna win this game. So I gotta take the ravens if it's three and a half. Absolutely. If the light six seven and a half, I would lay off of it. But if you're going to pick pool that line should still be at three and a half because the decision came in today. So you should be get to go there. Titans going to Indy. The play the colts. You know? This is an awkward match up because I look at this. As a case where I would pick Tennessee because I don't trust the colts. But I don't trust the Tate until that much either. But the titans Sabbath played better on defense as of late. So I'll give this slight edge. The titans even though they're on the road titans there. They are other dogs by two and a half points. I gotta say that this is going to be one less appealing matchups to be on paper. But there is a possibility of DFS that I will have exposure to these guys mainly because of the fact that there is potential that you can have some big place down the field for the likes of t y Hilton you get accord Davis had a big game last week aching easily happen again today give it his size relative to the Indy corners. So there's a there's a chance that this turns into a sneaky shootout that's in the fifty point rage, and as opposed to the under forty four point total tat is currently associated with it. So we'll see how it goes. But that's an interesting what to keep an eye out for Steelers traveling to Jacksonville to play the Jags Steelers laying five and a half. You know, I know people are all on this. Steelers today. The narrative says Beal in on the Steelers, the Jags are complete disarray. But was remembered and as much as I trash Blake Bortles at the Jaguars. Let's remember last year, Jacksonville, absolutely owned. The Steelers beat them three times convincingly, by the way, it was not that close. It actually to ties regularly two types of refugees. And what breezy, but you get the idea. It was not that close in terms of the batch like Jacksonville owned Steelers last year and the Steelers grant home in the play offs and Jacksonville came in and beat the snot out of them with labia. You know, again, the whole LeBron James kind of situation. I know people are saying that they don't need to worry about beyond James Connors their lesson. I will play James Cotter in DFS I'll blame regular fantasy. But if you're telling me into Steelers are going to absolutely crust the Jaguars. I cannot go that far. I think Jacksonville could cover the five and a half. And I think Jacksonville has a chance to actually win this game last year. There's a game that the Jacksonville defense can get up for is this one where their backs are completely gets the wall. They know about a loss and they are done for the season. So this could go one or two ways Jacksonville can keep this one close in pull out a victory at the end or Steelers blow them out early and Jacksonville's having fights in the locker room at halftime. I could see both scenarios happening. I just tend to believe that the former is a much more likely scenario than the ladder. Given the fact that. These rosters are not that radically differ from last year. I think the Jackson actually match up very well against the Steelers. And Leonard fournette ran roughshod over the Steelers defense. I, you know, I'm still wanna see the Steelers defense go up against a power run team like the Jags and get it done. They've been they've been doing well against a passing Teves blends of Jack's kick it the run game go that's a very interesting matchup to see. So moving on Panthers. Go onto the lions who are in full on tank mode Panthers four and a half point favorites. And I gotta take the Panthers here. I mean, the lions are down to kindergarten as the number one wide receiver because mar marva Joe's is alpha knee injury. You got a bunch of injuries on the offense of life for the lion's not much help in terms of the passing game. Although Louis Louis Riddick is a to be a Riddick of saying Louis Riddick the ESPN analyst. That's his uncle THEO Riddick is the running back for lions. So. Iino? It's a case where the Riddick is actually a play for the fence because technically he will qualify as a number two wide receiver on the lions right now because of all the injuries, but I can't give conscious recommend the lights at all today. Even if you want to do a differential play for picks pool is like Carolina's all might lots of the week. If you got them at if you're able to get them at three and a half kudos to you. I was holding. I was a little bit asleep at the wheel earlier this week with betting on some of these games. So I missed the three and a half point as spread. But you know, I I gotta take a lot of this. There's just nothing about the lions I recommend that the president. They got too many take take take the Panthers over the lights, and you just be happy with it. Just because it's not going to be sexy play today. But you know, just to take the money where you can get it moving on. We got. Got the Cowboys. How about them Cowboys traveled to Atlanta gets a falcons team that will surely find a way to choke this game. I will Tripoli take the falcons by his three and a half men. I do not feel comfortable about that. At all. For by picks pools. I can easily see a scenario residual Elliot once for two hundred yards against this Atlanta defense. Now, these scenario were I don't tease equally running for two yards is because Zeke will run for one forty then catch over seventy five yards of receiving yards on dump all passes from Dak at score. Couple touchdowns receiving as well. Like I could see Zeke going completely off on the falcons today. And you know, they're really wouldn't be any shock to be all over that. Like, there's a very good chance. Zeke destroys people today, and you know, the odor chip. Shipping up on Zeke. But this is a very wonky week because I could see a lot of people being on saquon Barkley for the giants, which I'll get to moment. But Zeke to be is an absolute must play for defense purposes. There's just there's just too much. Good opportunities here for Zeke to go off against a very weekend. Land of defense. I'm sorry. There's I don't see any downside the playing Zeke this week, given even though you have all these other running back options available. Seek to me is the play. Okay. Moving things along. You know, I said my piece enough about the giants. But this is actually one matchup. They should win book straddling to New York to play the G, man. Here's the thing about fits magic. He can easily throw for four hundred yards. But I know he's going to turn the ball over at least three times, the there's just no way. Rif? It's Patrick is not gonna find ways to turn the ball over in Giants Stadium. I don't care is like he did it enough time since the jets QB he's going to turn the ball over. And that's what he does. He's gonna wreck up yards. But I say the giants are going to win this one. It's a pick a match matchup the lines moved up to a little one. But you know. I still look at this as a game the giants should win. And you know, even though it's in the giants best interest to lose. I would be surprised at the giants actually lost this one. I it's just one of those match ups where I feel sake you to have a big game. I think Eli should be able to have some time to throw down the field because Tampa's pass rush even though JP's looking at it as a revenge game, you know, outside of him like you can double team him. Like, there's not a whole lot on this Tampa team. So it's one of the few matchups league that this offense of line. Should look good against. I just don't see how Tampa's defense matches up with the giant skill position player. So I look at the giants as a healthy win here. I think they win by touchdown. And I mean, even with align this thin, I I look at the giants. And I think it's a lot. So I I'm going to giant here. Even though it's against our best. Interests long-term to get a high draft pick. So go the giants that that basically takes us into the four clock window, and you know, couple of matchups that I don't really care about. But you know, we gotta cover them. You got the raiders going into Zona? I mean, you know, what I've said about Jon Gruden. I mean mantha and Ponzi scheme does not a real football team as much as I don't like the cardinals. You know, the fact that Byron F which is now the offense coordinator Dave looked better offensively of ready. So I have to get the edge to Arizona to cover the five and a half points that they're laying here. Just when the standpoint of you cannot under any circumstance bet on the raiders, I it's just not a good place. They don't like Gruden it. Yeah, they're trying to play throw contracts. But like when you try. To go into business for yourself more often than not yet end up screwing some assignments up and in causing more disruption amongst your defensive unit. I do not like the way the raiders Leclerc right now. I I would still take the cardinals. Moving on. We get the chargers hosting the Broncos depending on the line. You can get the chargers at seven and a half or seven points. I I look at this. As a case of, you know. Melvin Gordon it's gonna get used quite a bit against the Broncos rusty fence, which although shaky has been better recent weeks, but I would not say to the south of that they could shut down Melvin Gordon, plus Joey Bosa has come back on defensive side. So the pass rush should be phenomenally better than it has been since the beginning of the year with an without Bosa. I don't see where the Broncos really realistically keep up with this game. So I gotta take the charger sear, minus seven or seven and a half doesn't matter. I still think they win by more than touchdown. I don't see where the Broncos keep up, and this is probably going to be the being beginning of the end of Vance Joseph in Denver by all accounts moving on to the. Late night game. You know? I don't know where to make where kind of make up my mind here because we got the Vikings traveling to Chicago Chicago's not getting respected or home underdog there, minus two. I actually know what I screwed that up. Chicago is being fair right thought they're the underdog here. I'm looking at different line here. But realistically, Chicago shift we favorite here. But they're not being feared by much Chicago's only favored by they're laying two and a half points some lines. I'm seeing pick them. I just don't see where you could say that the the bears are not in a position to be able to win this game. Kirk cousins has not been that impressive. I mean, you can say that Kirk cousins has been unimpressive. Which is when he was I've been making Mitch Trubisky. I've criticized but at the same time the number showed that he's been far more consistent Kirk cousins. You know on the face of it. You got to good defenses and the passing game should be stifled. But Chicago I actually trust more than Minnesota right now in terms of being creative on offense. So if it comes down to a big player to yes, I know Minnesota can always throw it down to deland or Stefan digs, but I think Chicago tackles well enough to prevent the big play. I'm not so sure that Minnesota's gonna be able to stop Chicago from getting away for Gant you play with the likes of Tariq Cohen or Taylor Gabriel. I feel so they're going to figure out a way of getting a big play down. And that's going to be different to the game to get the win. So. You know, this could go sideways, but I I liked the achy do like the bears here. Even though I'm I'm pretty confident most of the experts are on Minnesota as the dog. That takes us to Monday night football the game that should have been in Mexico City except the NFL never actually bothered to check at the field conditions and Mets co in the ticket stadium. We're actually going to be ready to play well in advance of the game. I mean, the fact that it took. Up until the weekend of the game to decide at the game can be played there and have to move it back to LA which again is going through the worst wildfire in recorded history in the state of California. But you know, being that everything else that's going on. You know in terms of questionable air quality. It you know, it shouldn't necessarily impacts the game based off of the meteorolgical reports. But you know, there is a legitimate concern about the actual training for somebody sees because they were prepping for a high altitude game. And now you're coming back to normalcy level, we get to the fences that can't stay off the field. Can't stop on a team from scoring the, you know, I I really struggled this one because I feel as though this one's going to be the shootout, everyone expects it to be. So I think this game could easily crush seventy points on the over under you know, if I'm if I'm betting on this. And I actually don't want to bet on this one because it could easily break one way or another. If someone gets special teams play something goes wrong. There's a fluke fumble. Oh abounds in the other way. I mean, if I take a team, I'll take the Rams being at home over the chiefs. Plus, some of the things that were going on is that, you know, both the Rams fans and the chiefs fans were flying down to Mexico City. So I know how the fan base is actually gonna be represented tomorrow, given everything that's going on. So I think they're still being more LA fans just giving effect to the games in L A because of the chiefs fans travelling down to Mexico City and presumably not being able to get a refund on the tickets today already planned out for the holiday trip. So, you know, I it is it is what it is. So I'm gonna take the Rams hair minus two and half. I'm definitely taking the over. It's just one where I can't see either defense being able to stop the other team, and given you know, you we had altitude conservative originally. Now, you have air quality concerns. I look at us. And I'm saying to myself, you know, in terms of the actual point production. We're gonna be in in a spot where they're going to be tons of point scored, and it's just gonna come down to whoever has the ball last. So the recap I still say the Rams, but given the fact that the over under still at sixty three and a half. I I'm saying this tolls gonna crush I I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of you got to bad defenses. Air quality is not great. The big boys are going to be sucking wind between the Rams and the chiefs. I just think that this is going to be a little man's game. The quake receivers on both sides of the football should dominate this game. And you're not gonna see that much of a pass rush. Two four quarter. We could easily see a scenario where we got to twenty eight points in a fourth quarters scenario. I'm just saying it's just one of those gains where? Even if it starts out slow keep betting on the over because I just see guys wearing out way early in this game compared to normal condition. So anyway, let's move onto the DFS picks. Just so I can get this thing up loading in time. You know, very difficult week to sort out. But I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of for DFS lineup. The that I would go with on a draft kinks fan duel. The two guys I wanna have in my lineup guaranteed would be saquon Barkley and Zeki Elliott reasons that are abundantly clear I've talked about this with the Cowboys. They should be able to run roughshod over to falcons Z can catch balls out of the backfield as well as any back into league. The falcons are dreadful absolutely dreadful Zeke should have over two hundred yards from scrimmage today easily if they use them correctly. This should be a monster game for Zeke if you're playing Zeke in regular fantasy. I think you're screwed. But you know, unless you have another top tier running back, but it's just a match up where I feel as though it just. Plays into the hands of what the Cowboys want to do. So I like the Cowboys in that scenario, and I like the giants because Tampa Bay realistically doesn't have any. Kyw quality players. I mean JP is a good pass rusher. But it's a terrible terrible. Rush defender, you know, he's way too undisciplined so saquon Barkley should have one of his best games of the year. If not his best game of the year. Because of the fact that he's actually going to have running to go through as Benazir giants. Offense of line is they should be able to create holes because Tampa gets way over aggressive trying to get pass rush, and they leave lanes open so sake one should have a big game to running the football and catching the ball out of the backfield. I just feel as though both these guys should be rostered on your DFS lineups. The other guy I'm looking at would be Lamar Jackson. And here's the reason why it's because he's cheap. And there's not much you can get around it. It's the fact that Lamar Jackson if. You're being honest with yourselves here, folks, you know, you look Lamar Jackson. He could easily rush for sixty five to seventy yards today for from scratch just by scrambling. And that gives you a solid floor. He's only forty seven hundred on draft kinks with that pricing model in place. All you need from Lamar Jackson is to get to sixteen points to be a good play today from a fancy perspective. I mean think about it if he rushes for sixty ours, which is easily doable in my opinion against a very weak Bengals defense. What are you talking about here? One touchdown throw and you're easily at sixteen. I mean, I I just think there's a no brainer. You know, the, oh, the I would say you play here for defense purposes, unless you're paying up for drew Brees. You can look at ally. Or if you look at Marcus mariota mariota is. I someone I've probably be underweight on because there's always a chance that that Tennessee into game doesn't go away work speckling it to work, it'd be a sneaky shootout. But Ilan should have a good day against Tampa Bay. Because they're not a good defense. You know, he lie when he has time and Tampa Bay's pass rush can't get that you live. But I don't think they'll be able to get to them consistently because of some of the discipline issues. I see them having I think alike mannequin have a great day after the two hundred you know, he's really cheap. You know, the these are really cheap objects. Yes, drew Brees is up there. And drew Brees and cursing Lynch should have a Mosser's eight throwing the football around at the quarterback spot. But if if you're asking me, I'm just saying, you know, go cheap with quarterback that way, you can stuff your running backs. So you get stuff Zeke and say. Kwan in there. And if you wanna roll with like, David Johnson or Melvin Gordon, you should still be able to have room in the budget to do. So because you play Lamar Jackson is just saving money. Now, if I'm looking at other spas where I'm going to save money. It's going to be at the tight end spot. So I'd be looking at guys like James O'Shaughnessy for the Jaguars. Because of the fact that you know, the Steelers not very good in past fence against tight ends. With a guy like Shaughnessy, you know, you're under three K in terms of getting a tight end. You could also rookie seals Jones at twenty nine hundred. But like, my my from my perspective like O'Shaughnessy is the place twenty six hundred hundred gangs for grand, which is the bare minimum on fan Faneuil. You know, it just makes sense because you know, at the end of the day, what what's gonna happen here is from the standpoint of, you know, you need to save money because unless you're paying up for that Gertz, there's not a whole lot of value here in somebody's place. Yes. Greg Olsen could into the end zone for Carolina. That's not a guarantee and Carolina hasn't been given a exceptional amount of volume to Olsen data. So, you know, it's not one where I really want to pay down to go to Greg Olsen. I could go with Jared cook as an option at thirty nine hundred, you know, he's he's. He's in the five km range on fan duel. You know, that's another option, but not exactly a lock either. Given the way the raiders offensive line woes have contributed throughout the year as to the deterioration of the passing game. So tight end spot. I would rather pay down fit in the top tier running back. So I can get in there and then the wide receiver spot. I'm looking at a guy like t y Hilton I'm looking at old del sterling shepherd could be play as well. But I you know, I think I would rather have Dell than sterling shepherd just because the giants would be more likely to feature Odell and sterling shepherd by far given the up today. The other guy you could be looking at would be Kenny. Golly of the lions given Marvin Jones being out. I mean, Detroit just doesn't have a whole lot pass catching option. So either THEO Riddick or golly. He's gonna get the lion. Share a tar. And I would say it's probably going to be probably gonna end up being a golladay. So I like all the potentially here. I also like Amari Cooper as an astronaut Mark Cooper is only fifty four hundred and we know Dallas has propensity of forcing the ball in to Cooper when it should be given it to Zeke so Cooper could be a pivot play. If you don't feel confident playing Zeke, and you know, realistically, I would tell you play Zeke. Don't don't don't don't be cute with it. You know, that's another way you can go bad it. So those are my suggestions feel free to disagree. But you know, that's where I feel comfortable with you know, I still think on a defense for Jacksonville's defense is not at actually terrible plan twenty two hundred and if you're saving money, I kind of look at Jacksonville, and I kind of look at Denver as two options that you can go with because again, Denver solely to k. Gestures two point two. They can get turnovers they can get sax. It's not out of wrong possibility that big bend. Throws an interception for Philip rivers stores. Interception. I think it's a very real chance that you can have some turnovers here and into the giants defense two point four. K you know, it's it's definitely viable option at because it's fits magic. He could easily turn the ball over four or five times. I think you'll probably be about three times before he gets yanked. But you know, very real chance that you you give Fitspatrick falling off the face of Europe in in Giants Stadium and at MetLife in the giants. Take advantage of it. So again to recap stick with a priori back. I would say saquon Zeke or must you can use use David Johnson. But I just kind of look at it from the standpoint of. You know, if you can get those quality backs in there that makes all the difference in the world. Because now you'll be able to get yourself in a much better position overall to be successful this this late because of the lack of wide receiver helped that you're going to get at the middle tier? I think it's a very weak. Why receive record this week? So you're you're kinda left with hoping for the best rather than because. Yes, you can play Michael Thomas, but it's such a high premium that I think it's an easier. Play just go with saquon Zeki will than having Michael Thomas pay it all for you. So those are my suggestions. Hopefully, you have some success with them. Best linked to all of you. If you're lineups today and for regular fantasy. So let's go to do for the show today have go on and enjoy the games.

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MNF Preview: Steelers vs. Giants, Titans vs. Broncos Gambling Picks & DFS Advice (Football 9/14)

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MNF Preview: Steelers vs. Giants, Titans vs. Broncos Gambling Picks & DFS Advice (Football 9/14)

"What's everybody weapons to fix podcast sports daily NFL podcast I will Brinson I'm your host it is Monday. September fourteen. A full week of Sunday regular season Games in. It's done. You can check out of course, Sunday, night recap show I think it was a heater felt like really well, it was two hours long an hour and fifty minutes depot was up until four am editing it no doubt you can. You can actually hear. So joining me now to preview the Monday night games for a weeklong Tyler Sullivan Tyler Sali sorry. You've got we've got a situation where breach we about Pete Prisco is a peacock and he goes it breaches. What about peacock? Maybe not John Maybe not. So that was if you to check that out, you're listen to the okay. steelers the. Reading, because we got cover two games a I. Hate by the way the second. Monday night game. I loved it when I was before I got married and had a kid. But even if it was like, you'd be up till two. Am right like in that stage right now. Saying. Single. Kill. Me For saying that but you know not married no kids and so like it's the ideal situation for somebody like me. Still. needs to be worth it still it's tough. You were like Chicago La Not Boston it'd be fine. East Coast East. coast. Is. And it's not like you get to. Sleep until noon the next day Megan could in theory. We gotta work. I learned long ago. You know. Barrel job was in Nashville based out of their the central time zones where he want like that is that is the ideal time zone WANNA be those ten games. It's like nine o'clock. It's not back. You can deal with that. Starts. At noon on Sundays off, right yeah. Yeah that is they might be better. Baseball starts like five PM that's that to me is is the prime spot because. I don't I don't mind. Lending. Game that's at nine am but I don't think I need that every day on the west coast. Well game starting at. In, fact this this. The steelers giant's game still minus six at the giants the over under forty five and a half this game starts at seven o'clock. Yeah. I like that I believe you're right. Yeah. I could get down with Monday night football every week at seven o'clock eastern time like why do we empty out how these these west coast elitist nine anyway you've got a pre seven twenty five eastern kick. That's so much better than Thuan beautiful hate. Yeah I mean let's get. Let's get it on people. The steelers are minus fifty on the money line the giants are plus to ten on the money line you have a preview on CBS sports dot com I would say for. What sort of stands out to you about this game try to preview because it's hard. There are a lot of unknowns particularly with the steelers in been rothlisberger. there. Are you know out of the to Monday night games? I thought this is actually the easiest one to really kind of pinpoint what we liked just because I you know as much as there is an unknown with Ben Rothlisberger missing the bulk of last season I still feel like we know we're going to get from him to a certain degree. Sure I kind of see this game. Maybe him coming out a little bit slow you he made you want to. Lean towards making ticket the giants in the points of the first half maybe that's something you want to look at but overall I just don't see the giants secondary holding this offense to to really anything throughout this game I. Still think he is going to be a capable quarterback being able to light it up his weapons are fantastic, and then the other side that was a top three defense in the NFL last year going to begins Daniel Jones and weapons that he really doesn't have a lot of experience with I mean, we'll talk about a little. Bit later, I liked area slayton but didn't really have a lot of time a golden tate whose questionable for this game sterling Shepard didn't have a lot of time with him. Evan Ingram. All those guys he didn't really get to play with, and now you're trying to ask them to build up that chemistry with no preseason games against the top ranked defense. That's a really tough thing to look at here. So that's why I like the steelers here even with the points and there's a history of it too, and we can get into that if you. Well. So here's my thing with this game I think when you look at it on the. When you look at it from a traditional NFL perspective. Giants at home on Monday night getting points from the steelers quarterback. We don't know anything about this is ridiculous like Gimme the giants baby because I mean, this is the dog at home on Monday night this prime spot where you want to back the dog however tyler having watched. The entire. Sunday. Slate of games. I think I may become the idea that the steelers are an absolute hammer spot because. Consistency Across. The board and talent and depth and skill on the offensive and defensive line appear to be ruling the day like bad teams in this isn't true with Washington was getting beat up by Philly early on and then flip the script on them so I, get it. It didn't happen in every case but like. You know. The rating stop amounts and the browns have a lot of moving parts. The giants are little similar because they have a new offensive coordinator in Jason Garrett they lose soldier who opted out and they told her haven't been very good but I, mean, he's the starting left tackle. They have a second year quarterback in Daniel Jones I. mean there is this a second year quarterback thirty quarterback then don't second. Yeah right yeah. I was like did he sit behind for your? It's ten thirty it's. My brain is shot. Yeah. That's right. He replaced him a couple games anyway. The year. If that feels like four years ago. That was really I. Mean I don't blame it. It does feel like eighty two and a half years ago. That was just year. Yeah. Interesting, that's right because you're replacing the anyway anyway. The larger point here is that I am extremely concerned about the giants ability to hold up against what with a bat offensive line against a very good defensive front of the steelers. Continuity is just so important over these first few weeks maybe first month of the season until you start really getting that. Th. The chemistry just by playing over the first four games there. But even to that point point, well, I mean the CBS sports research team did all this other stuff but it's unbelievable when you look at the giants as a home dog over the last two years there one in ten against the spread Owen five last year. So to me that right there is just that's last year. There were between one and six and a half point dogs and lost by double digits in every single game. And I don't think that that know that much better this year in the road favorites livestream football six, one against the spread. So just many signs pointing to the steelers being the play here, and of course, that'll mean that the giants will blown out by fifty. You know that's just how the way things go but right now I look at the. steelers being just the clear favourite here. You know give up the points totally fine with me I just like everything about them right now whether it's the offense I still think Ben Rothlisberger is GonNa come back here relatively sharp I think he might struggle to begin with just because he hasn't had those preseason games to really kind of shake loose and shake. Off that Ross but when you gets to the second half there, I just think they're going to open up. That's that can vary isn't great. They have plenty of weapons Juju Smith Schuster deontay Johnson, James Washington Chase Clay Pool James Conner Eric Brahm it just seems like it's an embarrassment of riches against a secondary. That's that asking me get lit up. Yeah. Man I mean the more you look at this just it's tough to dive down. So I think I mean I think I'm flipping from the giants to the steelers I might flip my pick on CBS sports dot com certainly GonNa do it in my pixel and might just the steelers tonight I do think to the other thing that if you like Pittsburgh? The money line. Maybe doing a parlay. Yeah. Vegas nights playing tonight. They're like a minus one seventy. That's not a terrible addition to the money line right? Well, know much about hockey. Neither do I I watch the bruins that but that's really about it he'd be. then. Suburban lose. Thing. All right. So let's get to these props you're in on the steelers. On. The overall. Probably go with the over there i. I would probably went to the garbage time for the giant. Because, maybe because you know that. Garbage. First half under. Okay, I. Don't mind taking the the points with the with the giants in the first half I. Think you get like three points there it wouldn't surprise me of Ben Rothlisberger comes out a little bit slow and then halftime adjustments they light it up in the second half I wouldn't mind taking a three points. I think it's about a field goal that you'll grab wouldn't shock me. If all of sudden Daniel Jones does somewhat decent. Keeps it relatively close maybe saquon Barkley just goes off and Ben Rothlisberger struggles a little bit to get into a rhythm and all of sudden you're talking about a field goal gang going into going into halftime that wouldn't surprise me at all but I overall think the seal is GonNa wipe before with them could be the second. Over under to twenty two for the first half. I. Like the I like the first half under a lot you've seen a lot of these games come out slow Pittsburgh will be methodical Jason Garrett's running the offense for New York now. So they should be they should be using saquon a lot. They're going to grind it out maybe they'll try to take a shot play early on because it's Monday night and I think they don't want to like. What you can't have happened if you're New York is have a u turn it over and all of a sudden everything's flipped on your face your scoop slammed do down seventeen in the first quarter and you're having to throw it forty times. That is a recipe for disaster -ticipant. Both of these things are really conservative. I'll take the under I. I'm with you I take the steelers minus six year that it's just gotTa Win by touchdown they've been. They can blow this out and cover late with the defensive score to that. The I was Gonna say that seems like a double digit win every day of the week. Yeah. All right. Let's get to some props from tonight. What are you like? Well, now I'm trying to get these freaking can be some problems, but he's probably. GonNa William Hill Ben Rothlisberger, total passing touchdowns set at one and a half. The over is minus one seventy that is a little surprised that that is that high I don't think I would. Definitely like I take the under there. I seriously they do you think that the steelers are going to want to come out and be like look pins back or do you think they'll just be like let's go run the ball play defense and get a win and give that Dutch I don't even think it's you know here's Ben Rothlisberger he's back at it again but I just think that Ben Rothlisberger. Is GonNa, want to see what he can do and see what they have him against, and it's kind of one of those things going up against the secondary in New York it's almost like one of those like Alabama going up against you know a division one, eighteen, a tune-up game going into the season I think this is one of those situations where it's like all right we know we can win. This game. Let's see what Ben Rothlisberger can do it. See what his limitations are. Let's see what that elbow looks like coming into this. So we're GONNA Kinda. Let it loose a little bit sure. You WanNA maybe not expose them to too much. I'm not saying you're GONNA drop back and throat like forty five, fifty times throughout the game you don't WanNa. Ruin that arm right out of the gate but. I do think that they're gonNA WANNA see how he developed how he's recovered so far because again these snaps the essence it's not like you can just you know run the football get out of dodge you gotTa know what you have here. You didn't have you know that that that dress rehearsal game in the preseason or anything like that. I do see rothlisburger thrown quite a bit here. Okay, right? I, think. One of the things that hurt him two years ago. So he led the League in passing attempts like six hundred plus I think they will want to try and limit the wear and tear on the arm. It's sort of easing back. So maybe I will give me a prophet you like I would lean under plus one forty-five on Rothlisberger touchdowns just personally. But give me give me give me a give me something that you particularly like we've been talking a lot about the steelers. I'll go to the giants. They're just kind of well rounded and I'll look at Saquon. Barkley. There's a couple of them there anytime touchdown score plus one hundred. The best offensive player it just seems like at some point whether it's in the receiving game or it's a goal line a goal line rush he's going to get into the end zone at some point I. Don't love betting touchdowns I really don't because they're just so erratic. When you're looking at Saquon Barkley, it just makes all the sense of the world when you get in plus money why not throw a little bit on there and then the other one. What you look at like soon, the Super Bowl you always want to bet. Under on shortest touchdown scored at one and a half, and why would you do that? Well, pass interference but on the one and then they're going to run the ball in or you get in the red zone and you can just see shortages just happens it happens almost every game so it makes total sense. That you would go saquon Barkley. He's anytime. You're basically it's basically the same bet you're betting that the giants love the ball and the one yard line at some point and punch it in and or or could be even closer. So I I agree with you I like bark and the other one with Barclay to we kind of alluded to this earlier. The under at seventy and a half rushing arts plus one five that's a me is a little bit interesting because. If the steelers come out to this great start. Let's just say Ben Rothlisberger is Made me think back like the back like he always was and they both them out earlier that completely eliminates the run for the giants. Barkley he's talented enough to still be a factor in the passing game and maybe they have to abandon the run there. Maybe like you said, if they come out, you know defensive turnover turn touchdown you're down to scores you can't really run the football the way you would want to normally your games kind of goes out the window and then there goes. You Know Barclays Opportunity in the rushing game now you can still put up a tiny yards as a receiver, but still that one is interesting to me. Especially, if we think this is going to be a blow out, and if you're going to do that, you're going to bet on the under the rushing yards I don't mind that at all good parlay. Like half unit parlay with the Rushing yards under saquon Barkley over receptions because you're basically covers. What you're trying to you're betting on a correlation there Okay. Sorry. My son is screaming about something. Can Me Five? He'll come up here if you need. Anything else that. Stands out to you in Barclays receptions is three and a half. I would think I would absolutely take the over there I. think he gets four catches for sure in this game that would surprise I liked the Evan Ingram under total receptions under four and a half year. William. Hill plus one twenty, the logic being that while Evan Ingram is going to be a primary weapon in the passing game. This is Not, a great spot for him because of the presence of Mak-, Fitzpatrick I mean this and as well Devin Bush like they have guys who can limit what Ingram can do in terms of getting up the seat. Now, if it ends up being gained Jones Dunk to Evan Ingram, then we're in trouble but I don't hate the under there. The one thing you would worry about again if it's a blowout in the. steelers are big. Are they are they passing late? He's picking up garbage time. Yeah. The I totally agree with you on that one. The other one that I was looking at to James Caan receptions over three and a half minus one fifteen. You know he was he was around that number three point four with duck hodges of Mason. Rudolph last year with Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand eighteen he was averaging for. A four point two catches a game. He's just such a big piece. The steelers love to have that kind of bell cal back. There's an injury history they were James Connor but he's not injured entering week one if he is the same kind of guy that we're cost to when he's healthy, he is very heavily involved in the passing attack there in let's just say maybe they don't WanNa, really try to expose. Burgers elbow to these fifty yard bombs. You know we're Juju or Johnson Walkington maybe it's a few dump off. You can easily see James Cotter picking those up really in the first half though. Let's talk some DFS looking at. So you can actually play. A classic version of. For Monday night, because there are two games, you don't have to just do showdown. That's that's kind of intriguing to me. 'cause you can mix and match two games. It's a little bit less random but let's talk about the showdown when we talk about the Pittsburgh and New York the top Captain Choices Barclay I six, thousand, two, hundred, Ben Big Ben Fifteen three hundred James Connor fourteen, four, juju thirteen, eighteen, thirteen, five, twelve again we. All Time. It's gotTa be if you're GONNA do a showdown needs to be correlated you need to figure out how the game is you line up your whole lineup has to be correlated together. You don't WanNa. Have like Saquon. Barkley. Don't want you don't want to have. All the Pittsburgh passing options and all the giants passing options you want to have. You think the steelers are going to bomb out maybe you had the steal I've an intriguing option here very cheap eight eighty, one hundred steelers defensive unit as your Captain Ha I wonder how many? Data. That's the way. That's that's that's exactly how you should play this because you know when you're when you're looking at guys like Saquon. Barkley or any of the quarterbacks you are spending so much money for that captain spot that limits what you can do on the rest of the roster. If you can look at this steelers defense and I think a lot of us think it could be one of the top and the NFL once again made could easily top five. Eighteen hundred on that point, one point, five times the amount you're talking about whether they get a form all turn into a touchdown pick six, whatever you WANNA call it. They get into the end zone there. That is tremendous value at a captain spot and like you said, the over ship might not be there that's another you gotta watch the ownership might not be there for this defense. That's a great play if you want to go there. If. You did that you can actually do this bill I. This might maybe maybe we're you're seeing this and maybe it will be more popular than than. But you can do a bill where you have the steelers. Defense is your captain Saquon Barkley. Jones and Ingram with the idea being that the giants will be forced to like pass it on and just dump off, dove off these passes because they're trailing and James Connor Chris Boswell. So you sneak the steelers kicker in there and then you have connor who in theory running downhill. So that's sort of the that's sort of the bill. That you want to do if if you're going to ultimately do do that kind of build and looking at. It keeps finding percent of ownership. Out there yet but I mean I would I think that will be kind of popular the ones if you want to go contrarian, you do like Daniel German does your captain right and you think that the giants will just come out with a great game plan dominate or even. The problem is Saquon Barkley. We will probably be the top maybe he won't be that own because he's the top option guy. Tough, it's a tough this. Going to go giants if you're thinking about putting it going in training putting giants in your captain spot I, still think you should go with the approach of trying to find a cheap option that's going to have low ownership guy dairy slate intimate wouldn't be a bad option there. Because just like you said, if you think they're going to have to throw it a ton he's a guy that Daniel Jones had a ton of chemistry with during his rookie season. Super Super Cheap. I think he's seventy hundred as a captain. So I mean you're talking pennies on the dollar in terms of the grand scheme of things he had over A. Fifteen yard catch last season, he's got. Off on Monday night games to before. So that's the guy that I would keep an eye on there in terms of your captain. If you don't WanNa. If you WANNA, go super super contrarian galaxy brain going against Daniel Jones going again, going all the way that going down that rabbit hole you could still put David Jones Day can fit saquon. You can really do some things there when you cheapen up that gap in spot. All right. Let's take a break when come back we'll talk broncos, titans. 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For example, as we help, you win your leagues on Fantasy Baseball today part of the CBS fourth podcast network we dive into every game every night help you set your lineups waiver moves, and of course, dominate your league mates there may be unwritten rules in baseball not on fantasy baseball today listen weekdays on Apple Podcast, spotify Stitcher, and wherever else podcast found by. MINUS THREE AT THE DENVER broncos the over under is forty one tyler. I don't know about yourself. Excuse me I live at use along works don't worry about. So called me a breach called. Me will on the podcasts that was offputting. or You my mom. The The I. Don't think we're going to get a bunch of like awesome football Monday night I mean these these are these are not set up to be great games teams. Now, the titans probably have the most consistency of all these teams the they lose Jack Conklin. Isaiah Wilson won't be out there I don't think but they. Do have, you know Arthur Smith still a coordinator Mike. Still there they added you dave and cloudy, and then they have ranch and so there's like a lot of everything fits in there but there's a lot of consistency on that offense. There's reason to think they could come in and run the ball well, especially with no von Miller no Bradley Chubb Titans. Minus three at the brokers the turtle is forty one. What's what's your lean here early on C. I loved this game. You know a couple of weeks ago I was all about the Broncos I'm like Oh. This is a great spot for them. You know there's this home field advantage with the altitude is something that I do think it's significant after no preseason. Really. Limited training camp. There I do think that there's fatigue that could set and particularly in the second half for Tennessee but then you lose von Miller, you know we don't know about Portland site and he's questionable doesn't look like he's going to play. Even if he does play is going to be limited Bradley Chubb they say is one hundred percent coming back from that from that twenty year ago. So it just feels like everything is leaning towards the titans here so you. Can easily see scenario where now Ryan Tammy. Hill's looking at a clean pocket should easily put up points in the first half and then you ride Derrick Henry, the rest of the way and that, and that's all she wrote to me. I'm leaning I'm giving up the points the with titans and just rolling with them. It just makes no sense. Yeah. I. Mean I feel like it feels sort of stupid to be a complete donkey right and to take the steelers and the titans. In normally I would say I disagree to sell everything. The broncos are here I. I don't see how you don't take the titans in the they want have been the that's the thing they would have been a solid pick if they were fully but now it just feels like one of those. Teams to start the year where injuries are starting to creep up, and now you're talking about you know drew lock first year. Starter? Starting the year as the starter you have a very inexperienced receiving core Jerry Judy's in his rookie year you have no fan going into his second year the there's just a lot of knowns there. We don't even really know how the backfield's going to shake out. So I I. Just don't know if they're going to be able to put up points with a guy like clowney you know that defense is still very, very good Malcolm about coming back. So to me, it just makes a lot of sense the point that way I don't want to overthink it too much and try to see where I can find value just I'm just kind of taking it as it is yeah and. Look I will tell you right now I don't know. Maybe it's the sucker bet I don't know. But a Titan steelers money line parlay pays out over one to one. Oh. You do that. He's got to win you don't you don't even have to like. Me You have to you don't have to cover anything just with the steelers and the titans go out and win, and that's it like that. Yeah. So I think that's I tend to lean towards the under here as well. Forty. One. Now down to one fifteen, I don't think there's a lot of points. The broncos aren't interested in being UPTEMPO, the titans can score quickly but I think they'll probably methodical I. Don't think the Broncos will come out with a good energy earn in the first half and try to be upbeat about the things that they've lost over the last the last few weeks but I mean it's tough to stop derrick. Henry and for as much as we talk about. We will talk about the conditioning thing is interesting. 'cause there's there's a situation where. You're in this altitude. It's tough spot to be. If you're if you're the if you're the titans because you're not used to practicing. In the altitude you had no practice you're not gonna be there early it's going to be tough. You're be sucking wind. So there's a but I think that maybe that plays to the under like they come out everybody comes out slow they'd try they're not gonNA run tempo up there you're gonNA mean. To me, this is an under GM yeah. The first half under to I'd hit that it's twenty and a half I I'm just going on this game the entire way because of what you just said I mean Melvin Gordon even said as much to reporters earlier in training camp he's like I didn't realize the altitude. I'm getting my butt kicked out here it's it's it's no joke and so we look at these you know a lot of these these stadiums aren't gonNA have. Fans, but this is a home field advantage that could still factor in here, which is why I'm going to. You know really pound that under whether it's first half the entire game it just makes a lot of sense they're not even from the altitude standpoint, the conditioning but from the game script like if you think that the titans are going to, you know we really come out you know guns blazing and try to get a lead and just run is sit on it like. You're you'RE GONNA, run it with the rest of the way, and then there goes under. So it's make it just makes makes all the sense and they go. What do you think about the? broncos. Team, turtle under nineteen and a half. I. Only three touchdowns I don't think so I. Don't I don't think so I don't. Is Not GonNa. Click it's not like this is a Sean McVeigh the Rams didn't score tunnel point to get too bad cowboys defense on Sunday night like I. Think you're GonNa see a situation where the the I don't think the titans will stretch this lead like twenty one nothing and even if they do, they're not gonNa let Denver just wing it all over the place and come back like they can't just open it up on drew lock I. I don't see I. don't see where that that happens either so. I think under under is the play all over the place on really all these games yeah. Just going on like this, these are teams that are GonNa Light up the scoreboard all of a sudden now no I I don't see it. Maybe not always we were saying earlier I do like the steelers kind of lighten it up in the second half, but with this game. To me, it just seems like every indication. Above. Average defense. But there's no reason there should be a ton of points in this game. Okay. Let's let's look at the props. What are you like in heightened and Broncos? The one that really sticks out to me is Philip Lindsey total rushing yards I'm going the over here it's thirty seven and a half minus one time like that to me I look at this backfield and I know that they gave Melvin. Gordon a really. Lucrative contract that bring into the starter, but they were named Co starters. It seems like they're going to get split carries here at least start there it'd be one thing if there was a preseason where you could say Okay Melvin Gordon has found a rhythm and his backfield is clearly separating himself or touches knows the offense. This is the first live game action. He's GonNa get in Denver we don't know what particularly going. To look like and so I do think that they're going to kind of ease him into this offense, which opens the door for Philip Linda's each really factor in here, and so if you're looking at that and that's another thing here like if you like if you like this part, you should bet this I'm looking over here in that same vein I don't mind going for total rushing receiving yards fifty three and A. Half in that's mine is one ten I don't mind kind of really hammering Philip Lindsey here to have a big game or not even a big game just a mediocre game to factor in here and so to me that I liked Bill Lindsay kind of getting over those humps. I'm seeing one on here that I see this on my site to I'm seeing it on William Hill and it's just a flat out mistake. This is a triple unit Mega Bashar. Adam humphreys turtle receiving yards over under thirty six and a half. What? Why about him how? Did I. Miss the Minot and Adam. Humphreys is a critical component to the Tennessee titans offensive attack. He has four games last year where he's over. Forty receiving yards they're going as a team that has a decent secondary. Lost a bunch of its guys up front and or have guys injured. Enter, you're going to see their henry gets fed the ball. They they would love nothing more than Ryan Tannehill, to tip fifteen passes, which means you just got a dodge one deep ball, Adam Humphreys or one jailbreak I don't understand why that number is that high. The one receiving number that I like with with. John Lewis Smith receiving over twenty seven and a half minus one ten. That's the one. If I'm going to bet like a titans pass catcher to go over receiving marks that's where I'm GonNa look when he when Ryan Tannehill was named the starter last year and week seven on he evans thirty four point two yards again if he goes by his average on that point, he's hitting that over and I actually think he's going to have a semi breakout year in this in this offense, I like John Smith whether it's three per season long fantasy or or whatever you WANNA call it i. Liked that one. If I'm going to bet titans pass catcher that's probably where I'm GonNa go I'm a huge fan. So I'm with you on this I think the one thing I would say about Johnny Smith and I don't know if you can get it. I'm looking on here see if I can figure out how to make it happen if you get rush and receiving yards for John Smith you probably can't because he's not he's not a running back they do like to give him carries though so it would not be stunning to me of John Smith ended up with a couple of rushing. Total yards for Johnny. Smith that would be a little bit advantage. If it's probably GonNa, be close to the same number the receiving but I agree I think he'll look Jonah snus way and this is not a. You can you can get you can run play action role, John Smith, get I mean you can just see an easy situation where he's hitting a deep crossing route I like that spot as well. I wouldn't mind Dirk Henry's over receiving yards fourteen and a half. Yeah. That's how bad this. One catch. Yeah. Yeah I don't mind that because I like is under here with rushing. Thirty nine and a half what is happening? That's wrong. That is flat out wrong. What is going on? Why is Corey Davis at thirty nine and a half? Isn't that the AM crazy gonNA forty receiving yards I think this is what they want you to happen I think I think exotic they're lowering you into the trap whatever the case may be but you know look look at with Derek what you just said, I liked the rushing under here ninety six and a half I do think they're going to lean on him. But like what kind of we're talking about here with his altitude Mike Brave the economy comes from that bill standpoint and I was at the game yesterday and Bella check swapping guys in and out like it was nobody's business because they haven't had these your first box yesterday. How you feel about Kim. Lagrange. The Russians great little little still need some time in the passing game in that second, not turn this into a patriots podcast but second half coming into, it was probably best drive they're coming in the third quarter the the adjustment that I think that they made was we're just going to give you one read pre-snap and you're just GonNa Chuck it right out there because he was like four four on that touchdown drive. So you still got to kind of learn the offense a little bit more, but also the the personnel for new, England at the receiving position stinks but GotTa Cheat Code Now that he can, you can come out of the gates with no preseason. No real off season run the football time play defense and you can get Cam acclimated as you go. It's it's really actually ingenious plan. All right. Let's talk a little bit of a so. I would say take I take Adam Humphreys under. Corey Davis under I love the Jonah Smith over with with you there I don't hate Derrick Henry actually now I'm not going to bet there Kennedy's under receiving. That's I don't want to mess it there can receiving. Humphries under. Johnny Smith over and then Let me look I wanna see what one more is. What if you look at that? Well, I, I do lottery ticket one again don't bet the House on it but this one I do think is really interesting. Ted Patrick Anytime touchdown plus four fifty that one to me is a little bit interesting especially with Gordon Sutton's out he's probably going to get the start at the other wide receiver spot to Jerry Judy. You're just talking about drew fight at once and just just find them once, and that's something that I think is. I think a lot of people will pilot Sean Hamilton there but I would like to Patrick. I would actually I think Sean Hamilton under the dishes and here's the other one I like. This is another slammer Ryan tannehill over rushing yards thirteen and a half. He's GonNa Rush. He he would get that in the first half. Throughout twenty one nothing in the second half, he's not going to be running the ball bunch but that do just runs he's to run for forty yards tonight I don't thirteen and a half is the wrong number. So I think these titans props are wildly priced wherever you're listening to this go get it now before the game starts because these will start moving these things move like crazy a leading up. This morning I was doing an update to this post that you know there was a ton of movements. Later pops fly all over the place. The markets are wild. All right let's The subsidy if s what do you think the players which are taught captain pick for this particular game I love Browns for season-long Twelve, thousand, nine, hundred. It's really expensive number but I just love him coming into a second year. I just I think if they're going to come out if we think that they're going to come out of the gates throwing a little bit more so than. Shift to Derrick Henry rushing it's gonNA. Be Jay Brown that moves the sex it's going to be. Ryan. Tannehill looks at I. Just think he's an absolute stud. This is one of those situations where I probably wouldn't get too cute trying to find a defense like we're talking about the steelers I think I would kind of just go chok and go Jake Brown again it's price you're gonNA have to kind of move things around there, but I do like him there so. I don't know how you get away from the air. Kinder's your captain in the spot. Yeah. Unless you think the Broncos are winning the football game. If you do that, there's a pack. I, mean there's always path for for an outcome where the broncos come out hot and the titans are forced to pass Derrick Henry sort of nullified I. think it's really unlikely, but there's a path there and if that's the path that obviously don't use Derrick Henry. But I mean. You go garrick scenery heightens defense, grab the two kickers grabbed Johnny Smith, Toss Ryan. Tannehill. You're still got thirty, four hundred dollars underneath the cap, your the chalk played captain. But where you'll win it is elsewhere on on the on the flexes like that's you know again. He's the start of this offense. I'm going a little bit off with AJ Brown but like. It's in that same vein. I. Mean You could probably roster both of them either way you slice that Derrick Henry. You know there's there's no shame in that whatsoever again chalky but like you can fix that elsewhere in the Rosser and if you do go AJ Brown's your captain, you've gotta come back. On the roster because the game script there is passed Aj Brown get big hound the ball with Eric Henry if you have to roster. Derrick. Henry. All overthinking on. Now doesn't. Make. The broncos defense you can't. And just like seat maybe they just shut down there Kennedy. Fade there. Yup All right let's get out of here. Great stuff as always. Sally we'll talk to you soon pal. Thanks for the preview. Problems. Listen it's going to be a year unlike any other in college football history and it's going to be tough to keep up with all of twenty twenty twists and turns. But luckily, there's a one stop shop to keep you locked in on the stories that matter most and of course, weekly against the spread picks for teams are playing this fall. It's all with the cover three college football podcast part of the CBS sports podcast network. It's me Chip Patterson from CBS. Sports Tom for Nelly, Barton, Simmons, and Danny. Kanell we'll be checking in at least three times per week. 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Steelers Hangover: Are the Steelers utilizing James Conner incorrectly?

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Steelers Hangover: Are the Steelers utilizing James Conner incorrectly?

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Good evening, folks, and friends and Celia nation wants to get I am Brian Anthony Davis along with you for that extravaganza right about twenty four hours after the Pittsburgh Steelers play every week for the first time in the seven week. We have a game that were not so happy about the outcome. But that's okay. It's still a long season. Look there was a mile high letdown. Actually, let's call it a mile Olo letdown yesterday twenty four to seventeen at the hands of the Denver Broncos at team who I don't think is as bad as many people think that they are in as their record shows, and they were actually making a run at the playoff as we speak. But so the Pittsburgh Steelers lost twenty four seventeen. So the six game winning streak is over. So there's a lot of blame to be floating around a lot of fingers being pointed. In so many different directions and something we'll discuss in our forty five minutes to an hour together. But first, let's tweet the finger at my favorite show hosts once again, my good friend. Tony few. Hey, Brian good to be with you again after such a heart wrenching loss. And you wanna point the finger at me, that's fine because certainly go around, but. Well, it's. What were you wearing? A black shirt. I think and they and bluejeans nothing ceiling. Is that what you were wearing the the previous six weeks? No. I actually look nice yesterday said probably probably explain why why why they lost. So we will point the finger at you. I I was wearing an all a hundred a hundred Villanueva white road jersey, which you know, I've I've won in that jersey before. But he he did score a touchdown. So of course, usually the guy that I wear something pretty good during the game. So I try to do that more and more. But. I'm very superstitious, and we can probably spend an entire hour talking about superstition. But let's talk about the loss. It's talking about where the Steelers go from here and a very big question. We're gonna talk about we're going to spend some time talking about James Connor as well. And who should we point the finger out there should be change. Or so we actually point the finger at the organization and the coaching staff and the game plan. So lots of stuff to talk about there. But your initial kneejerk reaction of this game. Tony. Wow. I mean, I thought they played really well on offense and defense. But I mean, the Grady quizzing in in footballs turnovers and especially yesterday the situations where they turn to football over. I don't think I've ever seen him leave as many points on the field that did yesterday they actually left more on the field and they put on the scoreboard. So my initial reaction is if they would just hold onto the ball. They probably won that game by three touching on. Now, what is your knee jerk reaction of the game plan? I mean, it could be good. It could be bad. I'm just curious. A lot of people have a lot of different things to say about it. I'll say I mean, I think they've done. Well, this have given the ball. You know, you know, twenty five thirty times somewhere in there. But I mean, it was working. I mean, it was working yesterday any five hundred twenty seven yard. They were they were they put themselves in so many optimum positions to score points. And they just I mean, the mental airs physical errors they made. I mean, they grumble and take picks by ban. Just in obviously, Connor somebo. It's just I mean, James Washington. He probably would have touchdown. He would've just tried to die for that ball third quarter. I just couldn't believe what I was saying. I thought the game plan, and they probably could ran Carter a little bit more. But I mean, I it's hard to argue with what the overall results the execution, which is horrific. I mean, it's just once exuberant grim got the ball rolling. It's just like it was sort of all went right down. The Colorado mountains, it just kept going never stopped and entire. Totally you know, that's something that I will agree on. I mean, I liked the game plan. I do wanna talk about how they are. You utilizing James Connor. That's something that actually concerns me in a way. But with that being said, I thought they came out and had a very good plan for the Denver Broncos. But they ignored one very specific thing. And that's something that we will talk about a little bit later. But what I want to talk about. Now is let's this performance. Go ahead and take a look at the offense. We already touched. Let's start with the amount of yards that they got. But who are you going to go ahead? And you know, finger point app for having the best day as the valedictorian of this team. I. Dude, you for sure I think that's that goes out saying I mean, we thirteen catches hundred eighty yards and that touchdown. He's just such coming such a he's just no longer a great story in just a great person. He's he's a great receiver. He just is. He is. You could say he's benefa- any from from AB and the double coverage. But I mean, the moves he put on on those on those guys during that play. It was just I he's he's the real deal. I mean, I think he's the real deal, and he gets my vote for that. My vote to the only player in history do have to ninety seven plus yard touchdown in NFL history. And he did it in thirteen months. That's just no -solutely amazing. And he just turned twenty two on the twenty second of November which happened to be Thanksgiving Day. So very nice birthday gift for JJ double s and I tell you what I think that guy is a superstar. But I just love his attitude. I love his demeanor. I love his exuberance love everything about them. I wish I could be more. And last year. It was big Al Villanueva who made a comment said everybody needs a little Jew Jew in their life. And that's that's one hundred percent. And the Steelers are blessed to have that man on their team. Now, we can and. And we can go ahead and grade that offense performance now, this is where it gets a little tricky. How many yours do you say they put up five hundred twenty six five twenty seven. K five twenty seven. So I mean that is a masterful performance, Ben. I mean another four hundred yard, plus they almost near five hundred just a fantastic day. But. You know, I think those interceptions trumpet the he claims that there were chicanery involved in each interception. But luck that interception to lose the game. But wasn't going to be intercepted by harass. Someone else was going to grab it. I mean because I might have been hearing the have granted. I mean that was no I mean, I don't understand their insistence of throwing right across the middle on the three four yard line. They did they did it against New England it failed. They did it against Jacksonville at almost failed. But luckily, the tried to decapitate. Are good man Ryan Switzer, and they got another chance at that end. They call that penalty yesterday. They're just there was just no excuse on it. I don't like that call. I love where I'm talking about game plan. I'm not loving the game plan when they when they're inside a minute or right outside a minute left in the game. And needing that touchdown on the three and just sling all around me. I wanna see James Connor. I wanna see them pound the ball with the best offense of lemon football. And then get created and rose. And Roe v necks. And look I know they went they went to James Cotter on that drive. But it was a delayed hand off with a shotgun. Oh that was doing from the start. I mean, you've got a little bit out of it. But I just did not think that was very innovative and they played the coached innovative entire game. So I really liked that. But. They've your grumble. I mean, look. I don't think he has a draw. I mean, he would be in my dog house for the rest of the year. And it's not because he fumbled the fumbles in excusable, but downright irreprehensible was his excuse for the fumble. Did you hear this? Tony. He he knew he could have probably. Step inside in and went in untouched. But he wanted to run through which doesn't make any sense. What statement you trying to make he went into his hat down. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. So he wanted on the guy. Well, he didn't the guy. He embarrassed lots of guy, he embarrassed nation embarrassed himself that was fear. Reprehensible while you said he would be getting my dog house for the rest of his there. The Steeler career would end after this year probably after that. Because that that you above the team, and I I've no place for that. Now, the other guys know will complain look. James Connor Cuomo was a lot different James Connor. Pulled off a beautiful run after cats got the destroyed two fantastic run after catches runs after cats, and but this one he left he left his feet to. I don't know why he was really leaving his feet down. There that helped cause the fumble. I'm not sure what happened. But that was more of an effort fumble from me. And so look I'll make I'll say look there's no she's for fumble. But there's no excuse. I mean, there is an excuse for the fact that that guy was doing some -pletely different of a routine than what save grumble was this guy was playing with heart, and he was going for it. He wasn't really I don't feel a huge going for style points or punishment points like rumble was so I'll go ahead and not excusing the fumble even he's kinda take care of that ball. But combat runner is going to fumble the ball. And that's something that we've gotta no. But not in that situation with Tony with that being said, you know, four turnovers almost the fifth. When when Switzer I mean, Switzer almost coughed up the ball and kick off or punt. So they're five I mean, and they still almost won that game. So what grade we go ahead despite all that? I mean, huge numbers. Great spat splash plays. Great innovation. I mean look throw in the even though it's a special teams play. But the path from Boswell to Villanueva. That was fantastic. We'll throw that in often just the purposes of show tonight. So, but we're can we grade them? I mean you have to finish. I mean, you have to finish that's the bottom line. And and in turn overs is so costly and so ill ill time I'd have to go with a C minus or plus because I mean, even even Benz first pick. I think that was even a lot of ways worse in the second because because they control the game at that point their midfield and up seventeen ten after jeez you score. And and and on that play took two AB, if I'm you know, I it's hard to see the whole field. But I think Vance the bomb was coming open on the other side crossing field. He hits him there. You know, if they score any points, I met Dr they probably win the game easily. So I'm gonna give him I generous because of the the artist and the innovation. I'm gonna get a C minus. That's a very fair. Great now, let's shift over to the defense. Not many great highlights on the defense as far as everything goes Hargrave and Hayward had a nice sec. I thought Vince Williams had a very good game. He's lying around the ball. He had a fact to here's the thing. They're not getting any turnovers once again that's not happening and they're giving no interceptions. Hardly at all. I feel like the let's Philip Lindsey run all over them, which we talked about him last week how he's a McCaffrey type player. He's very dangerous, and it's showed why he is. He's just a rookie sensation right now in Denver guys only gonna get better. So with that being said with the fact that Phillip winds, he's running all over their case keenum had just enough time on a patchwork -fensive line. They the pressure that they were giving Blake Bortles was not getting to getting through to I got like, case keenum. So that wasn't happening. Then you let Manny Sanders run completely all over you. And that I am not denying. I mean Sanders whatsoever. He is a talent. He's the best receiver in that team. He was a good receiver on this team. He's a great receiver for Denver. They couldn't stop familial Sanders. Either. It seems like that the pass defense regressed in that game. But what regrets? Most to me was the fact all of a sudden they can't stop tight end again. And they were. Yeah. Stopping better tight ends. Then I can't pronounce his name where men Herman McCaw and Lacoste, and you know, they so they they were those guys were put in the effort. They look like they look like worldbeaters out there. And convert help them what like world leaders. So the defense can step back. So if you're gonna throw a great out. At the offense. And a seem honest we'd be plus what are you gonna do with the defense? Tony. I think I'm gonna give it a because I it it did it did enough to win the game over all at the offense. What move turnovers many times, did, you know? I think when when you're when you think your team's going to score. And then all of a sudden all of a sudden you're back on the field again. It's easy. It's easy to have a letdown. I think that's happened. I mean, the to the to turnovers there in the third quarter. Let's the touchdowns, you know. And you can't you can't excuse defense. Totally because I'm the first one Mandy Sanders got behind Joe Haden, which was surprised because he's shutting down even better receivers all year. And then the second one they just I they just went right down the field seventy nine yards. So I mean, I give it a a worst grade. But I think the fair because I think I think they did do enough to having said all that. But Philip Lindsey what he did not being the case keenum enough. I think they said there nothing in the game. And they would've won if not for that for so many turnover somebody gonna see. You know, I'm gonna sound like an old man here. But I love this Lindsey kid. I hated haircut. But I love this Lindsey. I mean, I thing you know, I'm gonna shout out. You kid get off my lawn. But this guy this guy special, and you know, if even overshadows the fact that they they have another special rookie running back in in the form of ROY Freeman that a little bit yesterday Lindsey is spectacular. When this team gets. They're going to be tough. And guess what? Then for next four games are against. They're so winnable there against crappy opponents their next toughest game is December thirtieth at home against the former San Diego Chargers Los Angeles comes to town. So you this is a team right now. They're on the precipice of the playoffs. Really like what's going on in Denver? Just I don't like one of goes against my Pittsburgh Steeler team a team that has good. It's this team is becoming. She was had no business losing this game. So that's the bottom line to it. And I know so move disagree with that. But they had this game the turnovers what did it, but? Take to tangle. And guess what? You don't just turn the ball over the other team forces turnovers too. So it's a little bit of both there. But just I mean, you could take fourteen points off the board right away. And then you throw in the the block field goal. That's another seventeen points. If you store one of those balls. I mean everyone's talking about all these points. If you score on one of those fumbles you don't turn over the ball, especially like the grumble one. Then you're not going for it with Boswell to buffalo to villain away. You're just taking the three at the half just something to point out there. Let's go to the phones right now. I have very interesting phone call on hold that. I can't wait to get to because I know it's going to be from a different perspective, but we need to go. First to one of our hall of fame callers, the perspective that I need to hear especially after a loss. I need the soothing sound of veto. Oh from New Jersey. Good evening, gentlemen. How are you? Do you know, how are you? Toby? I did hope you guys that one. We do. Enjoy is. Absolutely. Yes. You know? I wish the football was better throwing a team every once in a while. But, but you know, it was it was nice a nice small holiday with with family. And it was just wonderful. I was listening to a couple of things today. I was listening to Jeff Hoffman wayans than the they had the game. Basically where they did like a forty minute show talking about reacting every yeah, they they pretty much after the game and they doing their job. Jeff lamp do a great job on that. And then I always go into steel dot com on Monday, and I was listening to Bob lambreau on Shokhin and Bob Lambert pointed out, some good things touch Elkin thinks team will be fined or they need to do and things up. But blab real thought the biggest problem is that the defense is getting any turnovers like you guys are just saying they're not taking the ball away. Not intercept in the ball. The other thing is if if you look at the stance while he's been thrown fifty times in that game. Why don't we more balanced wine is why are they throwing thirty times and running the ball twenty twenty five times why we getting away from that this something, you know, why about kind of see or maybe he's not a hundred percent since the cushion they afraid of him. They wanna save in. So that's definitely concerned that you know. Got to be phone back that we we don't know about the other thing is I thought the key. The key drive to me. What was weird about that game is when you saw the I I drive and they go for the few rolling get spot. 'cause that here we go. This is going to be one of those games. And then the grim play. We all he had a really do is even going to band inside the one you online and and get the team at the one yard line. And let them punch the ball in. I mean that was foolish because when you get down to the last drive of the game. When then throws the interception. Maybe we don't need a touchdown at that point because we probably have lead or it'd be a tight game. And then all we really wouldn't it wouldn't need to do is kill clock. Maybe kick a few. Oh and go up, and then just have the defense, you know, do their thing. But the key interception, which you guys talked about with they were fifty online. And then turn that interception tunnel can point something out. Chris Harris junior. I believe. Helds in Tonio Brown grid facemask in the reffed in col- meta penalty for interference. And that's why he says that that Paul got into separate because everything happened so fast. But that should have been a penalty on Denver and that in and that's interception. Never happens. But yeah that interception there. I mean what happened into section? They were moving the ball. And even if we don't score, and we ended up having a punt think about it. We still have the lead and it's a different ballgame. So there was some key mistakes that were made an game that I'm surprised when made for team that's on a six game, you know, winning streak especially after getting away with win list week. Probably should've lost the game last week. We will lucky to win. But I thought that we matched up really well against then when I feel we did a lot of great things against him with the short passing game and everything and we were just we were moving the ball crazy. But you scratch your head thinking, how do you see this game? We've been frozen for sixty two yards. Key is the mistakes mistakes at the wrong time the grim. Oh mistake, which cost is points. The block field goal, which costs points, the Kona dry, which cost points. And it brings you back to the eighth. See game ET was not the. The playoff game when they played against Peyton Manning where the rookie got the ball punched out of his hand when we were running the ball. And who knows that joy, we probably would have scored in that cost us the game. Even then SIS the game at that moment that was a turning point. So there was a few turning points in this game that I thought could have went the other way, and we should've came away with a win. So my question to guys is here, we go the next five games. If we go three and two and ten wins questions is that enough to win the division, and is enough to even get a by those those are the important things we have to Punto now with the way you know that game win yesterday. Let me know your thoughts. Well, you know, what I, you know, good analysis. I really like that, you know, bring up tons elk. And I think punch silken is a coach. In fact, they had offered coaching job at one point. He likes his job in the boots. And I think when he said something, I I tend to I tend to take a long hard look at it. I'd like to go back to that plate. And I didn't quite see the the face masks or the grab. But I have only really watched that once or twice. So did not take a big look at it. The bottom line to the whole thing is if they lose that game against Jacksonville last week. Then, you know, there's no good feeling like, oh, no where trouble, but you hit the ball. And you hit the nail right on the head. When you look at losing the Denver game in Denver a tough place to play. I guess. A team that is better than the record right now and had a lot of their own MRs. And I look at this game. Like, all right. I agree with you know, just putting a few things up because you have a team that did everything they could win on one side of the ball. And you did the deal you had the Steelers that were doing everything they could win but unraveled because of because of you just turn over him. So if you think that you're fine going three and two down the way. Gosh, I think that would be a little bit of a letdown. I mean, you still most likely make the playoffs and in that situation. You have a team right now that you would cause you have a team. That's right now six and five and no, you wouldn't I'm sorry. I'm talking I'm talking circles here, but you six and five Baltimore team right now. And if they went out, I don't expect them to. But let's say they went out there eleven and five. So you need four wins right now to against the perfect. Baltimore record to go ahead and Clinton that visit. We know right now the Cincinnati Bengals have worked themselves completely out of the division. And they're done. I'm sticking four Cincinnati. But as far as Balkan, we're goes, they found life you need to go four and one out. Down the stretch. Now, the Los Angeles Games and the New England game both at home. Both winnable games. Cincinnati game at the end of the season winnable game the Oakland game very tough game. But if they are who we think they are. It's a winnable game the New Orleans game, you might want to hope that they clinched homefield advantage in in week fifteen decide to give everybody nice person holiday. That's right now, not a winnable game as I see it. But I really think that this team if there is good as we think they are even before the Denver game that they could go for went down the stretch. And they should be fine though. Tony, what do you think? Well, yeah. I mean, if if we're worried about them being a Super Bowl in better be able to be the team like San Diego and in New England, and why New Orleans like you said there, I think they're both all right now. But you know, as far as the I think three and two we're gonna division easily because the ravens they have the chiefs. They have the the chargers I believe so that they're not going to go five. No, so three to definitely get you division. But it's not going to get you a by. I I think at this point they would have to go for and when never give get a mate what eleven four and one finish. So that even that might that might right there might be tough because the patriots have their usual, easy down the stretch schedule with the bills and the jets and teams like that. So. Almost have to at this point the way things shake out right now with the Texans and the patriots it might have to win out to get the buy. But we'll see I think these next two weeks. They're going to be critical. If they hold serve against the chargers, if they do take care of business against the raiders if they're nine three and one going against the patriots. Then you have a chance at the very it worse to be a half game back with with those three games. And if they beat the patriots when you're half game up with two games left depending on what the Texans record is. Yeah, they have a legit chances. They have to win these two games. I think they have a legit chance of getting a bye. There you go veto. Good stuff. I had another question for you actually on it. Guys that gonna like you guys on that gonna like this. But when you do comparisons. I'm thinking yesterday the final drive of the game where they have the ball. When Ben throws the interception. Think back to the game in New England, right? Makes outings playing say actually playing the women. Right. And my thing is while we ruining the ball three times to try to get it in. What are we supposed to have one of the best defensive lines? Why are we not running the ball? Why we passing who is he toned the to there's nobody open. I mean, I love them because you know, what? Adam this team never would be where they oil. We never have a chance every week. We would never have the Super Bowl we had when you look at Tom Brady. Look at the elite quarterbacks today, they make mistakes like that. No situations. It's probably a rarity. It doesn't really happen. I think what happens with him as we get this trying to force something which he doesn't need to do and ends of costing you the game. Why we forcing things that? I think part of the frustrations old game on putting up those yards. And then the phone bowls the mistake the turn over the interception. I think all that's going to his mind. And here we are at the end where we need. You touched on to win the game. And he's trying to force it hoping that someone can make a play to get the touchdown where we don't need to do that run at four straight times. And you can't get in four straight times, we lose. And you gotta take it. And is what it is we tried. But I would think if you go down that road, and you run the ball at least three times you don't get in. Then you say, you know, what we're going to give it one more shot, and we can't get in four tries than we have to come back into something that phone time. That's what I would do, you know pairing? You get I don't mind them having the ball one time in that drive. But you set it up with with the run. And then if you have to play action because we've seen play action could do they did it yesterday rebel play. You could do that. You can do so many things and seems like this is a play that they have circled in the playbook that they're trying to make work, and it's just not working and. Not only did they do it against the patriots. They do left for Jacksonville. And thank goodness. Ryan Switzer was nearly decapitated when that facemask last week or they lose that game too. Believable to game of inches. We do. It's a beautiful game. Something makes you cry. Well, we come down to stretch. Let's see what happens next five week. We will see you next week. And I think we'll be smiling next week. I could be a hard-fought game. But if they are we think, they are, you know, the rest don't figure Benza beat the charges, right? What was the last week in in Los Angeles in the west so meetings and their star running back Melvin Jordan. We'll be on the show for next week. Again, you go see what happens. All right, Vito. Thanks. Thank you. He Mita she'll love I I can listen to him all the time. In fact, you know, how people talking about having Morgan Freeman or or teams Jones doing their outgoing messages on their answering machines or. The memorial service. I went beat out of mine. I listen that guy all day long. So now, we we've got a special treat now, we're gonna take another call somebody who's been waiting patiently. And I believe by this phone number. It is a Maryland phone number where I am headquartered in Maryland. And if somebody that I know, but it is not a black and gold fan it as a fan of the blue and orange, and so let's go to the line. And I believe this is John on the line Johnny there. I'm here. Fine. How are you? John. I'm good. How you doing? Good. So now, I this up already that John is a good friend of mine, and he's he had some redeeming qualities other than being a Denver Bronco fan. He is he's a die hard pirates fan and a die hard penguins fan. We have that in common. So we'll give a little bit of a break. But I'm gonna tell you this guy is so much of a Denver Broncos fan. You've got to respect the fact that he named his only daughter after a legendary Denver Bronco. Is that correct? That's right. My. So I set my wife in the naming my daughter Bailey after ten Bailey, you gotta love it. I only got the dog's name times and Paul Moller years ago. They would not let she would not let me name the kids. So. John for I I didn't tell until after the name was already on the birth certificate that brilliant. I love it and just a beautiful child in be so John I wanna talk about this game from your perspective of being a hard Denver fan. And you know, you you've been on hold and you've heard us waxed poetically about how how Pittsburgh blew the game. But what's your of the game, and you can pull no punches? If you're looking at this game from your perspective. What happened? Well, I mean. I message right after the game. And basically said thank you. But. The game went the game. How oughta Broncos games Joe that they're good enough to hang in games. And they've got some talent. But as I've discussed that link with you, I think that we have probably the worst coach in the NFL. And I guess thanks this time because I think that there were a few Steelers airs that out did anything danced us of canoe. The cost us the game this leaks. But yeah, I mean, I I in my thing is surprised with this Phillies. Didn't run the ball. I mean, Connor thirteen cherries. And after watching the Broncos got absolutely gassed by is that crow Elroy this year, and then you know, lesson basing my Todd Gurley tongue earliest early. I was just saw that involve fifty six times and. You know, it was almost like the Steelers didn't didn't name plan for game where they were ahead or within seven the last few times, we played you guys. It's been the Bronco kinda had the leave and feelers had the throat a little bit. And it's almost like they forgot how to play against when the game was close. Doing good. Oh, no. They happen. Here you go some some filled linzie love because it was nice to feel like we might have actually had. I know he wasn't drafted might have actually hit on a decent draft class last year. Obviously clearly to tell always taking a lot of flack for some draft classes over the past five years and really like what I'm seeing from job and Freeman and Lindsey was undrafted. But also Josie Joel put in the middle Milan. Baecker spot. He's been starting Lassie game. So it's it's definitely exciting to see these these young guys step up for Denver. I liked courtroom citing a lot to and some of the tight end. But you know, it was a unique game. I mean, it was definitely miss inventive. I've seen the Broncos play calling on offense. Some of those misdirection plays. I Tony Romo really pointed out that really they weren't beating the Steelers defense as much like straight up head to have they ran that some success. Running the ball. But a lot of the bigger pass plays were very creative play design the yesen fake screen for the dump it in the middle of the tight end some of the the fake bubble screens and things like that where they were leaking guys scene and that stuff that really they definitely game plan for this week. So I definitely interested to see what you think about the Steelers game play on offense though. And why you felt they threw they threw the ball so much. Well, join you know, we we hit on this earlier in the show, but we were teasing it for later in the theme of tonight's podcast is or the Steelers using James Connor right and lucky I realized he he did have that fumble. But I cannot I'm not complaining about fifty four yards on the amount of carries that he had. He averaged right at four yards a carry. And here here's the thing though. I'm complaining about the carries. And the reason I'm complaining about the carries is every time that he has wonderful teen carries. This team loses. I know it's a setup the it's it's a setup the run with the path type of league now. But Pittsburgh does very well when they set up the the past with the run, and so in this situation, I wanna see them us honor Moore, and Tony I'm gonna ask you Tony. Do you think that they are utilizing corner the wrong way? Like I do. I think they're deserving him. Now because I think they're afraid that they're not gonna happen for the playoffs based on what happened to them in the past. They've lost so many running back at the end of heading into the place. I think they're afraid of that again. And I don't think it's much of a coincidence that this all started when heavy unbound when deadline passed so I think that's do. I think using them long. Yeah. Because. So much of their their offense was bell it flowed through through James Connor whenever whenever having success against against the Browns against the foul Cowan's against you know, ravens Bengals. Passing is tight ends and receivers and. Like they were at the end of the beginning of the year or middle part of the year when they were having their best assist on offense. Are they using them on? I don't know. Because again, it all comes down to this statement yesterday, if they don't make those mistakes, and it's a masterful performance. So I don't know if the using them wrong, they're definitely using them mice differently. And I don't know what what we can expect now five games they keep his preserving him. Or are they going to let them loose like like they did the middle of the season. I guess what the find out. Hopefully, hopefully, it'll it'll be positive what they decide to do. I guess my comment on that is even if you're going to conserve Connor. I mean, the talked on the front, and and maybe I don't I don't watch a ton of Steelers games. But the talk on the telecast yesterday, Tony about how much they like Samuels. I mean, it doesn't have to be Connor chain ball. Right. I mean, the Broncos getting gas. I mean, they got gosh by corral, who basically, you know, run of the mill I just what the Steelers offense of line being, you know, improving every year. I was just so shocked that in. I mean, don't get me wrong. Then gassed us. I mean, we have really had no business winning the game based on you know, head to head. If it wasn't for the ten overs the Broncos don't win. I think that's almost a certainty. There's one thing. I know it said, you know, we're not going to be able to keep up with a team has a really good offense and put up a lot of points play. These these twenty four seventeen type games to win. And I was just. Oh shocked that I mean, especially after the congre fumble. I don't I don't eat today. Even run a running play. they a few did down for its but down towards the goal line. But not not very many after that. No in running play that they did run which was very unimagined of. It was a a snap. Shotgun snap and a delayed hand off to Connor which they got a couple of yards. But just just not enough at that point. And you did answer question that I was going to go ahead and ask you there, John if you really thought that the dealers won this game. I mean, excuse me Denver won this game. Feels lost the game. And and that's the answer that I was thinking that the Steelers game this game away. I'm not taking anything away from Denver. I think that they're two thousand nineteen team is going to be fantastic. And I actually think that this is a a playoff team at this point this year with the way things are going. It's gonna go down to Baltimore. Indianapolis and Denver at this point and with very favorable schedule for Denver coming up their toughest game being against Los Angeles. Coming up in week seventeen cook very well. Get them in. So we will go ahead and see what happens. But you know, I do appreciate all your comments. And I I gotta say county, you cannot we answer this question, not not bad. I mean, it's tough to come into enemy territory being Deborah fan. After after beating the beloved bid for Steelers here. And I tell you what he did a great job, and he was very cordial towards us when he could really rub it in and it's. Yeah. A lot of class. So I guess I guess it must be a common theme in Maryland. I mean, it's it's then again, here's a penguins pirates fan. So I guess there is a little bit of Pittsburgh in his heart. So maybe maybe taking an easy on. I I hate to see what he would say to the raiders, though, he caught a raiders I might be a little bit different. So yes, I I've heard him talking about the chiefs to don't get him started on tyreek hill right on. Not a fan of tyreek. Well that being said, John, thanks so much. We'll talk soon, and you know, normally you're not supposed to have inside jokes on the show. But I don't know if you've noticed what Lamar Miller storing right now in the the Houston game. But I'm just saying thanks for the trade. Zacharias was worth. No problem. I'll I'll be sure to check that out. I I have the game on record what I get inside. So I saw I saw one before left, and we'll see what happens. Yeah. Do me a favor and beat up on the chargers next week. 'cause. In the playoffs. Just yet. They got a pretty tough schedule down the stretch. So hopefully, I'm hoping we get to that we seventeen game and it actually matters. But I'm not I'm not terribly with our coach going on the road, even even against some teams like Cincinnati. I'm a little pits. Little bit worried doesn't coach us up? Very well in the road. Well, cincinnati. All right. Thanks, john. John John from Maryland big Broncos fan. Great to have him on the show have loved to have him on other times because the guy is a wealth of welcome just NFL knowledge in the football altogether. So definitely a good dude and China, and I are key mates on. I you know, how on Monday nights, they usually play trivia, I didn't play tonight, and John and I are teammates on a sapient trivia team. So and not just sports, and I chip in with the the sports in the music, and he and our other teammates carry carry me with everything else. So. That means sense. Let's keep it going Tony. And let's go back to jersey. We've got Ken on the line. And I wanna see what he has to say can how are you buddy? Hey, guys, I'm doing doing great right now doing better than yesterday. You're covering. Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming. You know, what it's certain losses like the Baltimore loss early in the season. Bailey. Raise my voice. It was just like, you know, we're just getting butts kicked you know, that game. That's what these type of games at hardest for me. It's just oh, man. I if you if you just say a word sauce with an x right now, I might lose my mind. Baby Brimble, just saving xylophone. You say is this x Ray? Oh, gosh. And the word hardest is explanation. Did you see explanation inexcusable? Yo. Yeah. But that's the beginning. Oh god. You gotta be kidding me. What is my for the rest of the season and the longer on the team just for that? Cut them out. I don't cut them out. But he's in my doghouse because that's putting yourself before the team. You don't go to punish the guy. You score the touchdown. That's why I'm excusing James Connor for his fumble Connor was putting in an extra effort. China wasn't going for south what he was putting an effort. People are still it's bad the fumble through the ball over. He was trying to do some of it. This guy was going for style. And you know, my common Mike Tomlin doesn't go for style points. No, you can bet that you know, my little never put put any of these guys on blast in public on the media. You can I can bet you any amount of money that he's letting Vania grumble habit. And he's probably Tom the type that'll say a couple of things for the tighted. But he'll let Jane ban you have it. He coaches coaches what it's time to do. I think that's what he does. He's more of a c o. So he coaches coaches hard. So I can tell by the coaches respecting, you know. So that was that was tough. You'll never get those that that you can really say that was seven points right there. So because of that in a block steal go. I feel like that alter the possibility of having more running game. I don't think that I think they wanted to throw it to open up the running. I think they would have done. So successfully had they been leading or just kind of you know, not been behind for so long. Then I didn't notice to once. They went up seventeen ten they got the ball back. And then they started the drive where they started to just pounded. They brought Rosie Nixon had a couple. Nice runs, but the drive stole believes around maybe around midfield. And they didn't you know, they couldn't continue, but they started to do it. And then Denver went right back down in scored in two plays. I believe so that kind of thing then to so I think they would find to get there. And it just didn't work out. It was very frustrating. 'cause they really did give it away then needs to stop. I don't wanna hear nothing about those guys got block into wonder most fluky in a session that like do you need to stop man, Bradley Roby was gonna pick that ball off. Anyway, just stop it. That was about Pat with this stop it. You know, you've done that. You've you've done that same play in that same in a -ception, maybe four different times. So just take take it on exchan-, man. I can't make that play. Gotta get better. You know, it's on me this. That's it three three statements, and that's it. But overall, I'm still I'm still high team. I I am you know, nobody they weren't killing us in Santa's was killing Joe Haden. You know is just one of those match ups, you know, he he gets down Julio Jones, but different bodies. And you know, quick is quickness, you know, ABC's to kill Joe Haden. I think you'll Hayden is not as good with those those stores shifty fast quick change direction receivers. So that's all that I still high team. I you know, what I'm glad you said that because I am too. When we were talking to John the or Broncos fan, he was basically saying, you know, the the brothers didn't win this game as much as Pittsburgh lost the game and a luck. And we talk about this earlier, you have if you lose the Denver if used the Jacksonville game, then it's the you're throwing your hands up in the air, and you're going, oh, well, we're dad we can't rebound from this. Because it's the worst performance. But you know, this was a good performance that ended because of penalties. So it wasn't the game plan as much I one of them put the ball in the hands of James, Connor more. I think there may lose when we he has the ball less than fourteen times a game. So you gotta make sure that he gets his twenty carries a game. And I think that that's paint a lot of things for this team. Mm-hmm. This was tougher opponent than they were on paper. This was not a letdown game. I'm calling it a let down, but it it wasn't one of those situations where you're playing a two and nine team that that had no business meeting you and you just play down your competitions. They don't play down to competition. They didn't know they played the win that game. They lost it because of turnovers, and if you're losing turnovers, I can excuse that so much more than just putting any heart into. That's why I'm doing a break. And I'm quoting grumble the doghouse because that you were just playing for your play. Premeditated. That was premeditated. I can't I can't do end up in. That's the difference there. Doni? What do you think? Oh, absolutely. And as far as far as the Broncos. I mean, my comments as much press conference. It was not a very good battle-tested team in the top division and every play the chiefs twice play the chargers. I think once or twice once. So it was a very good team. They von Miller Bradley job, seventy you know, they have a decent team that had you know, a a bad bad drawn division. So. And yet you still play them and just made Comiskey or throughout the game while you lost. So I I don't call this a letdown game attract game or anything about, you know, type place play historically play bad there. And and they seem to be kinda snake bit there and it showed again yesterday. Then I can live with this loss. Well, I can live with is a loss against a Los Angeles team next week, even though they're very good team. And they've shown it you have to rebound and this team we've got prime time Ben coming up next week. And we love prime time. Ben can do what they do at home. Primetime. Ben is is a juggernaut. So we're hoping he gets back to that. And typically, he rebounds when he has interception games. And it's it's something that hopefully, they'll have to worry about so Ken going forward. What do you think of next week opponent? Yeah. Next week is going to be tough. But I'm calling me like not I'm not sold on charges. I'm just not. I think Philip rivers is one quarterback is a great quarterback. He gets the biggest past of any franchise top level quarterback that I can remember no one gives Philip rivers anything for not making the playoffs. They get at ally. Like crazy to get Ben for not being Brady. They got on painting for not being Brady and in losing in the playoffs after having a one c Philip rivers goals under the radar. Oh, he's such a game. Or and everything. I like Philip rivers. I would have been fine. If they drafted him if the Steelers drafted him instead. But I mean, he they lost a couple years ago with what Michael Vick in in San Diego. I'm not, you know, Woolsey. So I know that good. I think we'll be up to the challenge. And I spent the win what one thing. Say I gotta call it like it is James has Yip's in. Hey, you can see it in his body language. He looks to start on the sideline he has. So I think you're gonna see a little bit more Jalen Daniels. I like the way he he looks sudden in the game, you know, like, I think he's going to start getting more of more burning more of the passing situation. So although I don't think we're gonna see kinda getting thirty touches moving forward. I think Tomlin the scene of the couple of times and you wanna protect them because he is a future. But let's let's let's get more touches out of the running game with Jalen Samuels. I like to see what's there more because I think he's a little more sixty in the open field because he is over Sieber than Conner's. I can live with that too. And with Melvin Gordon playing next week that you always wanna play at team at full strength and they wanna play at their best. But I'm the fact that Melvin Gordon's not going to be in that game doesn't hurt my feelings as foreign right? I like the break from from a good franchise running back like that. So, you know, I'll take it because we've been in that position to where we didn't have a star out in one guy that we have not mentioned this entire time. Tony has been stuff onto it. And I think the running defense is really missing stuff onto the last couple of weeks. I think if he's in there and makes a big difference. So that's the guy you wanna get back and get back in in a hurry. But with that being said can thank you so much. We really appreciate your insight, and hopefully, we will be having a great Monday night talking about a win over the chargers. Yeah. Eight three and one we win that game. Nobody solving them game. Exactly. All right. How hannity? Hi, guys. I love the Garden State. Tony these these guys from the Garden State. We have a good around then tation be TSE and feeler nation. Good representation in the state of New Jersey love Cam and love veto. And I love the contributions of those guys every week. So we're coming to the end of the show how good show we had some good conversation. I'm actually feeling better. And I'm feeling better about this loss just knowing that this is not a lost cause and Ken Brett something very interesting about change Connor, you know, I agree with the I know we talked Jeff Hartmann would talk about how Chris Boswell had the, and I don't really think that we can say that the Basel has that anymore. I feel that somehow has gotten corrected. I I always say that James Connor is a combat runner. And so he is going to he is going to put put the ball on the ground little bit more. I kind of wish he did leave his feet yesterday. But it was in effort sake. But I think going forward James Connor needs. The touches I have no problem with Jalen singles getting more. But James continues the need to be trusted because he's a big part of this team a big part of their success. And for me, I think he could overcome this. And I don't think he's lost hot. So there's no need to say that. Okay. Libby on said, he's gone. And then then Connor just you'll stop carrying. No, this guy cares. More than anything. Tony. You could see it on his face. You could see how Abderrahman ties he is. And he is a team player. And so I will ride with this guy anytime, and I think he's going to be big again for this team once again going forward, but going. Forward for next week but Angeles rolls into town with a hot quarterback without a running back with a good defense. What do you expect to happen? I think it's gonna be a crazy exciting game. I think it'd be one of those one point get me to defenses that don't really take the ball way. You know, I think Pittsburgh the edge and pass rush and pregnant the edge running back now with with Gordon out, and they edit receiver. So I think they have they have better offense. But like you said rivers this this red hot right now at twenty eight twenty nine yesterday. He's having that excellent year. I mean twenty six touchdown six reception. So I think it'd be one of those I'm gonna say. Predict the score. Like, maybe thirty to twenty nine seventy misses an extra point somewhere because that's easy happens now in its invoked to miss extra points. There's not gonna be it. They're going to win thirty twenty nine could be sure likely awake game. But my tire scoring. I'll go with thirty eight thirty five I think there's gonna be a lot of scoring as well. Remember often he could play just as well. He's filling in for. Melvin Gordon, and they they're not gonna just throw it all away because they don't have the top running back. This is a good team coming in. But good teams. Play. Well. When they have two great teams should win after an ugly loss like this. And it's a let them off. And we're gonna see I quote, the late great any green all the time. We're not gonna let him off the hook. We know who we are. If we if they are as we say, they are they're going to win this game. So with that being said, let's hope so we'll put the Denver Las behind us and forge ahead. Still proud to be a part of Steeler nation. I'm proud to be here every week on the hangover with you. Tony duffy. Few. Absolutely. I mean, we've been doing this show now for what a year and a half was like six time if they've lost since we're doing sure together so We're spoiled. Yeah, we're spoiled. So I mean, it's you know, they were on a six game winning streak, and it was gonna come to an end eventually in and they weren't gonna win out. Probably. So you had respect one or two down the stretch. And and it was it was the perfect example of a team beating itself. So they have those mistakes it'll be wrong. And I think it'd be fine next week down stretch. And I can't wait again a week from week from tonight. All right. It sounds great four. Tony deaf you and behind the steel curtain for all your Pittsburgh Steeler needs. 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The Sedano Show (HR 1)

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The Sedano Show (HR 1)

"All right congratulations anybody who took the over in today's USC Youths Utah Game that that'd be the over Greg they did what is the over fifty one and a half year. Almost they're gonNA get there by the seven minutes seven minutes into the game. There are twenty one points on the Board Kim winslow. This goes down on the second play of scrimmage. doesn't matter Matt Fink comes in Redshirt junior backup quarterback last year backup quarterback this year third string quarterback quarterback. I should say this year. nearly entered the transfer portal decided not to and it's it's a good thing he didn't now he's playing for. USC and he's thrown two touchdowns against one of the best defenses in the country in Utah so he made the right choice there. What do you do now. I mean we were talking about with Mason and predatory. Keep throwing but what happens. Let's say he gets hurt. What is the backup plan. Don't know enjoy the met thing you got. You got upset with me. When I didn't know didn't do my research. You don't have research on the third string quarterback quarterback for you as well. I don't either. I also didn't call them on Saint Raw. I'm on Rossi. Brown has a touchdown touchdown pass over in Graham. Heralds is not tightening up the playbook for Matt Fink think as touchdown passes twenty nine yards and Tyler Vaughn's thirty one to on raw Saint Brown and and the trojans currently up fourteen seven would probably by the time I finish the sentence that could change in Utah's already cross midfield and it looks like they're going down to score but I mean with no problem is not going quietly into the night here. I think that's what the weird thing is about this. There was reports that people are saying that that if this gets if this is a blow blowout if you if Utah Beats. USC by a big margin than Clay Helton could be let go out of their game yeah tarmac somewhere and fire him. Sure what you guys are all saying like so. You don't do it till the end of the year. I get that make sense. I mean refusing to whatever but it's it's. It's dumb. USC alumni flexing like we we can't tolerate this kind of other shot off to fix it of the end of the year. There's something to that your USC. You're you're the Big Time College football program in La you were the you were the football program in La for a very long time and to to not make it to a college football playoff in the entire time since what since it's even been in existence. I think that's a big knock on January with that but that doesn't that I understand what you're saying. They're in the broad expectations for USC but this notion that you have to fire clay Helton four games in the season because they lost to Utah near ten team in the country right is just it's it's dumb. I mean there's more to within that. It's what are they right now the two and one that makes them to and to your totally out of any type of running whatsoever really pounced on that map there you like that. I wanted one to two so that worked out but I think the bigger thing about all of this is that what do you actually do with Klay. I'm in a weird spot. I mean Ucla Fan. That's not even anything anything so you're going to keep playing right. I wanted to keep him. You're that you wanted to call plays. Write ups should have that restored exactly I want him to be the CEO the play caller everything that he can. NBA and be with USC forever however I can't root for USC to win so I don't wear my where do I go here. You need them to be just average enough. The what makes this game interesting beyond the now the the keyed-in Slav is has been knocked out of the game or that. It's the tenth team in the country visiting the Colosseum or that Utah Hasn't one in Los Angeles for like ninety six years or something like that since USC was known as the methodists apparently the methodist methodist they were with something really AirAsia. Here's your doesn't is not an intimidating group and Utah's driving right down and write them throat so we'll see what happens with this but like you know. Urban Meyer is at this game as part of the Fox crew. Reggie Bush is at this game as part of the Fox grew and apparently there were chance before the game behind the set. The Fox set off higher urban just insane yeah. you know urban. Meyer said during the broadcast is from Stir Mandel that that you know. USC is one of those places where you can expect to win every game which makes it sound like he would love to coach ear which is only gonNA fuel. You know expectations -tations in this urban. Meyer is basically playing the role of Jason Kidd Right now yeah he clearly is trying to get this job or at least not afraid to look like it right but I mean we talked talked about it on. I think it was when I came in here when you were doing so donald show a couple of nights ago and I was doing the Blue Review and just talking about how urban Meyer is not a good dude and this is no oh no so USC fans and these are you know guys that have seen a team been pretty bad over the last couple of years and and so they just WanNa win again they want to get back to that. Pete Carroll era so they don't care about anything but the winds and if that means getting urban Meyer they're happy with that and that's a good thing for them. There's there's whatever we're GONNA win. If Urban Meyer's here we are going to win and that takes all of his morality out of the picture and I think that's a problem. It's there's there's just if it is hard for me maybe. I didn't go to USC but I think about this with the the you know the pro teams that I like. I mean my college team. I think we could probably cheat a lot and it still wouldn't matter I went to Banville you went. You went there but do they have a full year. We've been the bowl and everything ooh we went to the Music City bowl a couple times. Where is the music while I in Nashville. That makes sense yeah. We've been a couple of others and that was like a B. FD for us you you in a couple of music city balls in Nashville and you can stay there forever. Wherever you know Jerry's Franklin the coach Penn State was at Vanderbilt couple bowl games that guy could have stayed at vanderbilt literally for the rest of his life. If that's the GIG that he wanted he could have just stayed there and you know every fourth year have a winning record. That's all we that's fine but that's not. USC and I get that it's just it's it's really weird to me that there are people who are devoted to USC who went to USC who care about the perception exception of the football team more than they care about the perception of the university bright and let you hire urban Meyer in the middle of all of you know. You've got not just the scandals in the athletic department. You've got scandals candles in the regular department to you know the doctor the the gynecologist is under criminal charges and all these lawsuits and this and that and you're going to hire a guy I who has a history of ignoring domestic violence like this is what you're gonNA do and W- even with all of that and it's all terrible be holding off on the domestic violence all the jail time that happened at Florida. They're still not doing it in the correct order and we'll talk about that in a second also Jamey Eisenberg coming up at seven o'clock so if you have questions about this weekend let's say hypothetically euro into in your fantasy football l. e. n. named Ram don't win. You probably won't make the playoffs and you have a lot of questions about who you should play hypothetically eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN is a number you can also tweet us at Camp Brothers and we'll get your questions lined up for Jamie Eisenberg. I'll talk a little bit about Todd Gurley and what's going on there as well so start getting rid. Get your fantasy questions ready for him. That's in about twenty minutes eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN is the number are are. Are we still in trying to find Kirk. I mean we uh we can still wait to see but he hasn't gone back to me so it's probably looking grim on. I think you're getting ghosted Jesse. I think so too are out for that. I'll see see him on Sunday so I'm definitely gonNA. Call him out for that wow you. USC just blocked two field goals. Now there was a penalty and then they blocked again who says they don't want Klay Health. Stay the coach. I got a question for you about Kenley Jansen Greg. Ooh I like do that next. cabinets no cabinets he brother and Birdman Infra sit on ESPN la the doer do not greg. There is no try Do you like those new movies. Do you like seven eight nine. Nine isn't out yet but seven and eight. I mean the ones that are direct opposite. One offs not like Solo. No no no not particularly. I think the first first half of what was there was a force awakens yeah. I I was seven is pretty good until they get off of Jackou or whatever it's called. I mean whatever happens happens. It's it's a new hope Ranch Jesse Jackson. It's it's a new hope it's the same movie as New Right and then it becomes a bad movie I because I like What's her name daily daisy? WBZ Ridley good. There's a lot of charisma though like basically the stuff where she's doing stuff at the beginning is good once. I got the planet and becomes literally replay of it then. I don't like get the sky the next one last Jedi his right there are parts. Were there all right. Okay and there are certain seems center. The second-best can best full star wars. Movie is empty notes. No Empires the best star wars movie empire new hope when rogue one in is the best actual movie but then good percent like star wars a new hope is dry and Greg Bergman felony persona by the way a new hope hope is like he has the nostalgia factor and all but as an actual movie rogue one is a better movie than a new hope. I might like canoe hope better because I you know as my childhood but road ones better movie yeah but when it comes to the last Jedi the second that Laya flies from the space face in back into the into the spaceship that was it for me I couldn't I couldn't even thou definitely a bold move by the director will fly no all right. I just WANNA make dirty. Little secret of Star Wars is most of the movies aren't very good. It's not to the of the of the genuinely great great like genuinely good movies empire strikes back. I give I'll give it three and a half decent movies. Well Pires empires a great moving now. New Hope is a very very good movie good movie especially when you put it in context return to the jet is half a good movie yeah and the third one is really good. Rogue one is best surprising that didn't think it was going to be very good but it was. It was fine fine yeah. I couldn't get through seven minutes of that movie. The Second Aso's three's good the lead-up darth vader but the rest of them are not right now the second the second half of three because that lasts like ten minutes. That's stuff that last answering questions doesn't mean it was a good movie. It just means got some answers to questions. They were important questions while away eight seven seven seventeen. ESPN if you want to line up for Jamie Eisenberg coming up in fifteen minutes I know but like that's the problem with these movies I I love the universe and I love all this stuff and like my kids watch. It and it's all that the movies are good. Are you going to see the ninth. Are you GONNA go digging to wait in line. No no you're going to see well. That's fair enough. Wait in line. I see movies at nine nine nine or ten in the morning with my children when they're when we go and we get our tickets and you know but like if they don't if for whatever reason my kids are like I I don't feel like seeing it then. I probably will end up seeing it on video or video anymore. eight track player to I like John is my play records in my car. You were GonNa ask me about Kenley Jansen. I did that so I am of the belief Kenley Blue Save. The dodgers were off last night Wednesday night. Kenley came in with a two run lead against the raise and promptly blue that safe. It's his eighth of blown. Save the year. It looked like he was turning a corner but clearly turn a different corner is back the part where he don't want to be on the wrong side attracts. I just at this point point. You can't rely on him. As a you know a high end closer anymore and I don't think you can go into the playoffs with this question of well. Maybe we'll let them try it and if it doesn't work we'll make that switch. I think you have to know who you're closer is going to be who your setup guys is going to be an all that going in and if you're going to make a change you need to do it now rather than waiting to see you know if you get a game one or game to what you're GonNa do I I would make make the move now and to say Kelly. I'm sorry we'll try again. Next year of Joe. Kelly's the closer going forward in traditional sense. Yes you would be correct. Take this that what is happening with Kenley Jansen says go get another closer however that's not the way that the baseball is played now and that's not the way that the dodgers are actually a built. He looked at the last two world series with Houston. They're closer was Brad. Peacock who was a was a was a quote was as starter turned into a reliever. He was one of those closing out games games. they had the other guy who was he bounced around but he's not there anymore. It was a huge Toronto last night. I forget his name for Houston but he was terrible. He was a really bad closer so as Brad Peacock that got that done. Craig Kimbrel was the closer for Boston last year and he did not have a good postseason at all where Nathan evolved was closing closing out games and getting the big outs that they really needed. I think the same thing is happening with the dodgers right now. We don't know how good Kenley Jansen is actually going to be in the postseason. Kenley Jansen is still here. Why would you expect it to be any better. It's well because he's shown he's not going to be the same closer that we had from years past that was getting four and five five six and he's not pitching to pitch on that was that was a given that was already a given sure but you pitched the game that you're talking about. He pitched on a back to back night against Tampa. They raised their good fighting for their playoff lives amongst Oakland and Cleveland so what's happening right now with Kenley is he may. He may close close out games and with and with Kenley Jansen goes so do the dodgers but then he you will not see my back to back nights. You will not see him. maybe not even in a closing role and that even if there is not even if he's not the closer. They're not going to just name a disguise now. The closed Joe Kelly is now the closer. They're going to use the right guy in the right situation as if it's not Kenley in the ninth who's going to be some night. It's going to be like they did the other the other night where Adam cleric for one batter and then can to my eight for two to or it's going to be Joe Kelley for all three or maybe Julio Aureus will get some of that time or they'll. It just depends on the marriage. To where would you pitch Kenley. If you decide that you're going to do it that way because I'm not sure you know you. The high leverage situation in the eighth inning isn't necessarily any more appealing will add. It's still a very very high leveraged situations right so if you're in the eighth inning and you have the three four and five batters up and you want Kenley Jansen your most important batters he'll be in there for three four and five and they could have a two one lead and then in the ninth. You'll see somebody like Joe Kelley coming in for the for six seven and eight. They still want to use him in high leverage situations. It just might not whoa that closer's role so why because he's not that guy anymore no. Why would you WANNA use them in high leverage situations how how many maybe tell me that that's my point telling me that the guys is on this in that bullpen who you have more faith in as somebody who watches every single game who who in that they're gonna be at least two or three guys that you have more faith than than him right. Now I mean the the Ad Julio Aureus in those situations can to my eight and the ninth inning I have a little bit of trust in but it's still you've already named so you've named three or four guys aww situations before Kenley sure but if you look at September just in general just September when it actually is starting to matter for him. Kenley Jansen has been really good minus two games giving up two runs total all in all of September before that outing he had three straight outings so hold on what is out. They were mad had well no not in September. It's going into that game with. Let's take out the game that he was bad. In right Wednesday game you take that game out then. You have besides you had six games. He gave up one run in six games in September and only one of them was the whether he gave the one run he only giving up. He gave up no hits in three of those games. They weren't always always in closing role. Sometimes they were in the eighth inning and a two two tie but it mattered. They were still important innings because it got them to the ninth inning where they were able to come back and win. I when when I get what you're saying really is I feel like but even that is a change. That's big enough that I think you need to say what the intention is going to be before you get to the playoffs. I don't think I don't think you want go in game. One people sitting there asking you know what are you. GonNa do about Kenley who is like if you can't if he's not if he's GonNa be a high leverage guy who is in your ninth inning pitcher which is a massive change from the role is play then I then you gotTa make that decision now. Look I get that. You want to know that answer. I get that Fans WanNa know that answer. I want to know that answer. They WANNA. I think Andrew Lock. I don't think so the clubhouse one and I don't think so I think Andrew Friedman already knows exactly how he wants to play. I think he's trying to get Kenley going but if he's not going. He has backup plans and he knows what he wants to do. In the playoffs and we're not gonNA know and it doesn't matter because it's open issues really trust but if if he pitches well then you could just as easily make the argument he's not GonNa be the ninth inning guy based on kind of use of a bullpen short that would be again a massive. They wanted they wanted US Kenley in the closing role. That's the goal. The goal is to use cleanly in the closing enroll if he can't do it and he's not being emmys not pitching well and he's not his cutter's not cutting. He's not getting the velocity up all the things that have been making it so he's been a problem on the on the mound and he won't be in that role and somebody else will but it's not gonna be. They won't be that guy every night. It'll be somebody else and whoever they think is the best match up for that Game Pacific Okay so typically. I can live with that okay. If that's if that's how it works because that's the explanation why why would you wait because I don't. Why do you need read the answer. Be Unique the answer for your own for your own knowledge. Andrew Freedman has that answer help Kenley to know what he's going to be doing in the playoffs. What happens about a behind closed doors with. Kevin kind has an idea of what's happened. He knows how he's pitching. He no he's blown eight safely said the said Wednesday. I sucked yeah exactly. He knows that he sucked so he knows. They're not going to be like look. I suck and you want him and they're not telling me that's fine. I can live with that sure you think they're telling him yes. I think they have a completely open dialogue. We think they're telling him right now that look this is what we're going to be doing. You'll give you the rest of the season to try to get it right but regardless of what happens. There's a really good chance you're you're. GonNa be pitching seventy six seventh eighth ninth whatever they already pair yourself not to be the close if they're already doing. They're doing that on Sunday. He pitched the eighth inning and a two game you just on in full rest. You can't have the back end of your bullpen. screwing up games is more destructive to a team then you know then then you start getting blown out there. It's it's the equivalent of your your goalie in hockey giving up softball kicker in football yep shot. Whatever what is it the deflating thing that does plus two in a short series. You might only get one crack at it and if you're if you're closer you're trying them out there because you know you you to have faith in them and this is your guy and he's always been whatever and he screws up the that might be the one game where you needed him. I think that's what I'm arguing. Though is that it's. I don't think that he's he's right. I don't think Kenley Jansen is right and I can't. They're having but we'll they're having a conversation and already telling him hey you're gonNA pitch. Sometimes you're GonNa Pitch in the eighth inning of that. Absolutely absolutely I think there are already trying to put them into other positions into other situations so if it works for you and your Friedman's clapping in his right now saying Hey Brian Ryan agrees with me now. The point is the point is they've made a choice that Kenley is not good enough right now to be closer in the playoffs. He's not right now as long as they recognize that and I don't think you can give you think they WANNA go series and lose all matter if he you know to me it's sort of like you know you watch a football. You know team and you say we'll help. You Beats Notre Dame. He gets to keep his job ten. Things could happen that are independently. It's a stupid way to go about it. You have a season's worth of evidence of Johnson isn't reliable right now and to say well if he pitches well twice in the last nine days the season. Maybe we'll give him a shot. That is a dumb way to look at it because you have all of this evidence. That says he's not reliable. It's all about how he's pitching. Though it's not about whoa look he just had a good game. Is it as velocity around ninety four to ninety six with with the cutter. Actually cutting is a using secondary pitches as using the slider is using the four seam fastball is he is he mixing up pitches so guys are off-balance. If he's pitching like Kenley Kenley Jansen they will use them in that situation if he's not and he looks like he did on Wednesday which deep got Paul Game. That's the problem well. They and they're going to continue. You're doing that down the stretch eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN I would not be misled or led at all by anything. I've seen anything I see over the last week and a half of the season eight seven seven some I'm ten. ESPN is the number if you have questions for Jaime Eisenberg. If you need a big fantasy win this week we will help you out. Lord knows I need one eight seven seven seven seven to ten. ESPN at Cambrai you can also tweet us you questions Jamey Eisenberg fantasy guru coming up next ESPN LA SONATA Show Kaman that ski and Bergman and filling filling in Yes for Sodano who we think we'll be back Monday. You'll be allowed out of his plastic bubble and the quarantine quarantine. That's been going on these Sodano House. I will not be here for that. No building when Sodano comes in just to be safe. I'm afraid to be in here. He has that h FM the handful mouth yeah. I prefer to think Sodano has hoof in mouth. which is something that horses get? That's what he said he had. I don't know what it is. Did you have that when you wouldn't in math. You have three kids. Did any of them get their filthy. no none of them knock on wood. None of them have that yet. I never had that either thankfully CBS Sports Jamey Eisenberg Bloomberg as a fantasy expert he comes on this show all the time because he's a good guy eight seven seven ten. ESPN is the number he joins us right now to answer all all of your fantasy questions Let's say hypothetically you're. Oh in two and you have to win this week or your season might as well be over here and AK byline. La We're playing each other. Oh so that's GONNA come up at some point here Jamie thanks for coming on. We appreciate it guys. What is the deal in. How people should I think of what's going on with the Rams backfield in terms of the value of both Todd Gurley and Malcolm Brown well. I think you look at knock them around as a handcuff as somebody who love occasional game like we saw in week one but he's not going to be the the guy who's going to lead the team touches and it's GonNa take some touchdowns for him to SORTA savings value. I I still think the best of Todd Gurley is in front of them as long as these healthy and so far so good in terms of him staying on the field just a matter of well his workload increase that's the question listen but you know so far cuts down to one hundred twenty yards and we gwan argued that not a mustard guy. Can you play Malcolm Brown. Though can you lizzy worth like a flex spot or anything like that. No no not unless you really love the game script and you expect them to have a blowout situation like for example you know for the cowboys this weekend you could say twenty. Pollard has a chance to get some work in the fourth the quarter for the Patriots you know Rexburg at the chance to get some work in the fourth quarter. You know those type of situations. Where did you like the rams. Are GonNA blow out. It's women their nose respective situations. You know three-touchdown favorites. Maybe look at the back of running back there for the most part now. I don't think until we see him getting consistently put on a weekly basis. Then what do you do with a a guy like Christian. McCaffrey 'cause Cam Newton's out and Kyle Allen. I believe is going to be the starting quarterback. What do you do with McCaffrey's is still a start yeah. I I mean he don't get cute. Allen throwing bothered Jamey Eisenberg on a Friday night for you to ask that question if it's a fair question because we're dealing with it with several scenarios of big time players saying they don't paid now with without breeze so Alvin Kamara you know what do you do with him. And what do you do with you. Know James cotter Pittsburgh the they're two separate conversations in seasonal leagues where you playing in the league that you drive you play those guys and you don't think about it in daily leagues but you don't play those guys because they're very expensive and the situations are different. Now we saw McAfee riser play some games without can do. He was fantastic. He's still gonNA be pointing being basically a paper defense this week because the cardinals a very bad defensively so McCaffrey she's still be great but again it's difference between spending the money on guys like that in daily format as opposed to find him easily easily Jamie Jamie Eisenberg joins us from CBS one of their fantasy experts over there. What do you what would if you're looking at some of these other guys who are now available and starting the replacement quarterbacks with its Carter minhsiu or Mason Rudolph for Alan. Whoever might be if if you're in like a super flex league or something like that are any of these guys actually useful absolutely you know especially if it's six points passing touchdowns because they outscore most players anyway that's just the nature quarterbacks and obviously the way quarterbacks score and play in the NFL today with the rule changes taking meant you out of the equation because he played already. I think the situation situation for for Kyle pretty good again playing the cardinals terrible Matt Stafford you saw last week you know they had enough time with Lamar Jackson. Jackson was goes out saying he's a very good fantasy quarterback right now but I think often quarterback league or we'll find out what Mason Rudolph I'll do on the road in San Francisco so I would probably avoid the saint situation just because it could be messy with Sante and you wanted to use both quarterback with Bridgewater Tastes Hill and then. I think it's GonNa be fun to see what Daniel Jones does the new starter for the giants so the only one. I think you want to avoid which is pretty. Easy is the new dolphins quarterback. Josh Rosen GonNa play very well so if you're on the road in Dallas but you probably wait a dolphin fantasy leagues anyway. How realistic would it be if I wanted to. Just play like stream defenses every week that were playing the dolphins like the best. That's the way to play fantasy right now. The thing about it is the chargers their opponent next week old now ask them and or if they're the only defense you can play take your lumps and hope that they don't struggle too badly against. Shawn Watson the taxes. The one thing that you know about the facts of is that they have a lot of sacks so they wouldn't kill your fantasy roster but yes if you can find a way to play the team play the dolphins every week. You'RE GONNA have a big who's going to benefit the most from the Antonio Brown fallout probably Daas Gordon. You know I mean him. Angelina Gordon was the one that you thought what suffered the most eyebrow suffer the most you know just given the circumstances of element locked into being the slot guy you know. Braun could play the inside can play outside. We're GONNA see them. Here's a lot of foreign live receiver sets with Philip Gore said on the field you could say that Brown adamant play on the inside but it oh Gordon is the guy that wasn't gonNA get a ton of targets anyway and so if it's target's share was going to be chopped up and he was going to be the one who probably lost the most but now both he and Elman win and then if you're looking for somebody off waivers I Philip Door said the last time I looked it's definitely growing can pick them up now set at the time that Brown was released was at thirteen percent ownership on CBS sports leagues so he's available almost everywhere all right. Let's go take a couple of calls here. We'll start alphabetically with Aaron in Carson Blow. Okay go ahead Aaron of calling if I should start a pro quarterback golf or Baker Mayfield cool. Thanks I did way to go wait. I is in Brian got rid of Jamie. You asked me just a minute ago. Are you an idiot and then you got rid of our guest way to go. What was he doing there. Can Can we get him back on. Please jazzy because Brian doesn't know how to use the phone bank. No the guest isn't supposed to be online one always on line one. No the guest is somewhere else and Aaron was online one alphabetically Muse below Aaron and Adam well whatever happened. We don't have our guest anymore so we have to go back to now. I am one hundred percent confident that I did not do that wrong. Well we don't have anymore. There's Jamie is avert right there in the fifth row popping back up. I think we've got him back right. Yeah Brian Accidentally dropped you. Brian didn't do anything wrong. Press press to the right and not to the visit know oh how to do. I'm just not doing it anymore. Yes please don't do we're. We're sorry Jamie Did you hear that question Jared Goff or Baker Mayfield. I I gotta play off you know. I doubt there's really struggled in the rams. Defense has been very good through two games but the browns are going to be down most likely to die secondary with ward and greedy Williams so that'd that'd be a good situation for golf. You know having a bounceback game on the roadway separately so adamant Burbank. Can we bring him up. Please go ahead out of all just a quick question. I'm a waiver wire question for a PCP our league these three players Hide Coleman and Lindsey. Should I pick up all available. Yeah I mean if you don't need to play anybody this week that I would probably just take a fire on Coleman and hopefully he comes back to his lead role with the forty niners but if you need somebody to lean toward win over hide it sounds got a lot of guys eligible teams so let's take a look at the maybe bringing most is available. was also Kinda for Coleman in San Francisco. I don't love Lindsey your hi this week in PBR but if he's looking at dash approach than the Komu do the guy to look at. I'm going to go through a little bit of twitter ones for here. I got from DVD BE MAC or Montgomery for reflect spot you know. I think that MAC is is gonNA play. This practice Wednesday and Thursday showed up today. I like the setup for him home game against Atlanta's the first phone game for the cold but if he's mum is a great fallback option because he finally got to work last week for Crystal Fair says Flex Braida or Alan Robinson. I think it's Breda. If Robinson both eyes are are kind of in some iffy situation Robinson at the great week one as appointing we do Brita that I get a chance for some work but it's going to be inside the twenties as opposed to near the red zone so but hopefully he finds a way to find the getaway. Get the walk into the end zone but I I give a slight nod toward toward from J. P. at this point would be would be of good time to move on from for nets and what is his trade eight value. I don't think so actually think he's in the other spot. I think he's a viable candidate. You know last week was the last night was a little frustrating if he didn't have that sixty I I think it was sixty nine yard run to get them to fifty six ers minus three before that but the nice thing about it is that he's playing really the majority of the one hundred percent of the snaps had six touchdowns ads will come for him. I think the way that she was playing right now. It's going to open up the running lane so I would. I would not get rid of middle one more trade question for Travis Kelsey for Dak and Darren Waller. His current quarterback is James Winston. It's not a bad trade because there's been good especially. Pr The thing about it though is I think the best for for Winston is yet to come including this weekend giants. They just been so bad so if you WANNA wait a week to see what Winston can do. I don't think it's a bad situation to go with Winston and Kelsey over Dak and Wallace if you had to pick two or three guys like that because I actually have James in one of my on my team so I'm Kinda hanging in there on it if you had to pick two or three guys like that. Who would you look at I I. They're all on the same team. It's the James Team you know. Mike Evans has been a disaster for two weeks out with famous but he's dominated the giants so a lot of people frustrated with him. I think he's a guy you could look at it as maybe a Bilo candidate and the same thing with OJ Howard we always look for the squeaky wheel situation where the coach talks up a guy who's been struggling and that was the case of Bruce Arians and OJ Howard this week so I think all the bucks have sort of like this bounceback breakout type of game again the dining sci-fi fiction kind of guy sometimes and who's better Stephen Donaldson or George are Martin George Martin who who is Stephen Donald. What did he write Jesse. You look it up for me yeah. It was the ten chronicles of covenant. I believe I closed that pay. Have you read those no no no. I have not the ten chronicles of covenant or whatever never heard whatever named you're gonNA say other than they do. Well played. I Jamie Eisenberg. CBS Sports he's their fantasy expert really appreciate the time. Thanks a lot have links Jamie. I thought that was a really well executed segment in the sense that I did not make it entirely about my own team. I've been radio for seventeen years. That was maybe the worst segment that I was close. It was bad that was avows bad it. It hasn't been the worst segment that we've been apart of no. We've probably been some bad ones any many yeah yeah but the the call and then talking about it off the air there is very talk about I mean we can keep talking about fantasy football or you can go to break either. Be a producer or or be a host all right today. It's both actually both pick a lane Greg Bergman all right you heard Jamie Eisenberg mentioned some of the injuries for the browns around big advantages coming up for the rams this weekend in Cleveland. We'll tell you about that and also a former. La QB is is basically being thrown to the wolves will explain that as well cabinets key and Bergman Infra Sodano espn let all right so things have kind of mellowed out a little bit at the coliseum it was like crazy scoring there for for about the first seven minutes of the game twenty one points put up between Utah and USC but now things have calmed down Trojan agents still up fourteen to ten Utah with the ball five thirty two left in the first half. The over still looks pretty good. Nah I mean twenty four yeah. I mean they go. They doubled all that and then just a little bit more rising a more a little bit moist. Four second-half has used. It looks pretty good. I said it's still in usually more scoring in the second half so that's what I'm hoping for. Right Ryan Kaminsky and Greg Bergman filling in for George Sodano George has got the foot in a hand in the hoof disease and I'll even think we'll be back on Monday if he is not still quarantined so this the reaction to this game just this game with. USC IS FASCINATING EVERY USC lose by two touchdowns. He's GonNa they're gonNA fire Air Clay Helton tonight but like what if they win like they're winning right now right against Utah. They moved the ball well despite the fact that they're down to their third quarterback. If if you missed it keyed Slava's got hurt the second play from scrimmage. He got buried as one of the offensive Lineman just whiffed on a block completely. You got buried. He's out of the Game Jack. Doc Sears is in sears through two touchdowns. Are Sears is in the transport. Nobody knows where he has disappeared. He's gone. I think it's a testament to the USC the depth into the into the USC offense and what was his name Romero Graham Harrell has brought to that team. They're using the air raid and they can just let helpless in any quarterback quarterback in he's a junior right. Richard Junior is not what is he lost out to to to younger guys but he's he's been on the field a little bit here and there. He's not an eighteen eighteen year old so I think it helps to have a guy who is it's not as first day right I was looking at I already lost the tweet or whatever but like the next scion line were fink to get hurt a walk on who had been playing safety like that is a problem like this guy is at least a quarterback quarterback. I'm is recruited to USC to play quarterback. He's pretty good sure but I can almost guarantee you that there was nobody there's not one. USC Fan out there that was thinking. Oh Oh God please put in Matt Fink at some point in this game because keyed in slow right. You're all in on Cubans slow visit but that's just shows what the offensive line can do if you can give a quarterback back time in any in any football team whatsoever if the offensive line can give your quarterback time you're going to be good and so the the reaction the action on Monday if USC wins game because remember Urban Meyer is here he is in the building petitioning the job right with F s one he's doing you know is part of the broadcast team had been Reggie Bush and before the game it was reported that there were higher urban chance behind the stage Steve Fox stage. you know just crazy with play. Hilton still in the GIG so you know the pressure we've seen the reports this week to to go out in higher urban. Meyer and get that done you know the President Carol Care Fault doesn't want to do it but a lot of powerful alumni do I mean does is the president who knows but then they don't even have a D- if you don't have an id you can't hire a head coach. I can't hear you came this coach. This is why it's dumb to get rid of clay help now. Maybe they lose your by twenty. I agree with you right. It's like there's no point in in firing before you get the A. D. and the A. D. will either have the I'm sure part of the interview processes. Are you the kind of person who thinks it's essential to hire urban. Meyer or not if the answer is yes. You probably don't get the job right. The presents can have a little bit of of say here when they hire you. Yes should you would think that they will too. I mean if you look at you at. Ucla for just a second you have Dan Guerrero who's going to be out in June and the president does not have much say Casey Wasserman has most of the say they're so and he's a big time booster for UCLA so I'm assuming it's the same way at a private university like USC that they have a big booster that is going to make a lot of the estimated caruso recruits given four hundred million dollars but the the differences at USC you have an entire institution that is kind of mired in scandal right now at Ucla. I mean they were touched just by the the bribery and they're in John. Not as deeply and it's it's not like the that whole school has a big problem in the same way right. You know people just don't like they just need a better athletic director people like Dan Guerrero look. I don't think that they should be hiring urban meyer in any sense whatsoever but but at the same time what do you do with Klay Hilton. If there is a loss nothing doug you just you allow a lame duck head coach going through where all you have rather lame duck head coach because the guy who is the interim guy behind. Clayton's also at Inter but you can tell your recruits like hey. We're going out. We're going. We're looking for our new head coach right now. Stick around. We're GONNA GONNA be able to have the right guy in now. You're telling these guys to wait when they can go if you're if you're going to. USC Your Five Star Four Star you're up high. Get your high echelon player. You can go to pretty much anywhere that you. WanNa have already lost right. You've exactly they're losing guys. What makes you think that firing clay Helton and not knowing who the next guy is going to be makes it any easier because they'll sell it. There is going to be a change already know that'd be change they will you know but but you're saying like look they beat number ten. Utah and then they go through and they win the PAC twelve south which if they lose this if they win this game verse Chris Utah. They're in the driver's seat to win the PAC twelve south they win the PAC twelve south and they've correct. It's possible right but isn't there a scenario where like if the Guy Guy and let's I mean if they if they beat Washington. They beat Utah. They beat Notre Dame. They lose one more. Whatever you lose one more game over the course of the rest of the season isn't there at least some kind kind of scenario where Clay Helton deserves a chance to keep. Well okay so we can we not. I don't think they'll do that. You don't think they're gonNA win this game. Yeah I don't think so but you just take it another way where that they could still beat Utah and lose to Notre Dame. I think clearly knocked out or they. They'll knock him out of the pack twelve no it doesn't it knocks them out of the of the play-off scenario though 'cause they only have one loss right now. They're not completely out but they so they can lose. Washington's aim a little lower than the plan. We'll just talk. Just let's do hear what you're saying about. USC FOR THE PAC twelve who aims low with at USC I just I never understood that I don't do that at UCLA aim low well at UCLA basketballers standard. You have to know what you are. If your standard is always you know either we win the the conference and go to the Rose Bowl or go to the the playoff off or we fire the coach. You're going to twelve coaches and quote twelve years you can get close to at least you need to get close to you need fighting five and seven isn't. GonNa work mark now at at at at USC. They go five and seven again then they all deserve to get your you know if this team with a freshman in quarterback here now who may I haven't seen any updates on on the health of slow down to the third guy and they lose three games this year I mean I is that because of coaching right. But how much can you put that on clay. If you have your third string quarterback putting they lose three games. It's pretty good right eight without schedule a forever. That's just all you want. That's all I that is all. I want all right. The Rams are in Cleveland this weekend. a couple of significant developments on the injury front on both sides get you up to date for that game. Brand Community Greg Bergman in four Sodano E._S._p._N. L._A.

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Standard is the Standard: Predicting the winners and losers for the Steelers in 2020

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Standard is the Standard: Predicting the winners and losers for the Steelers in 2020

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That's part part permanently was gun here man. I mean this thing is is is very surreal man. I rode passed it on the way home. I wrote pass the cruise ship that has docked in the Oakland Bay. Its biggest can be and man. It just looks like a coffin. It's essentially a floating coffin. We're going to talk about too much about the current of ours. We will be getting into data. The Pittsburgh steelers Response to a little bit later in the show but first and foremost we want to welcome everyone. That's listening. I want to mention. I said this before but this website this this Thursday this podcast whether you're watching live on Youtube whether you're listening platform is a a stem or branch of the website behind the curtain dot com. I encourage everyone to go behind the curtain dot com and check out the articles. A lot of the podcasters here actually all that lands are writers for the Website. And you can check us out. We write everything from breaking news to mock drafts etc etc. It is a great website to make sure you check that out. Make sure you also subscribe channel for watching live on Youtube. Set up the notification. So you don't miss a show. Let's get right to things lance we're GONNA go into winners and losers either or that type of gist for the for the show. We're going to get to that and it's going to be really interactive so peak. You keep a close eye on the show here in the coming minutes before we get. There was some news this week. Dave talked about it on their shows last night. But I WANNA get your take first and foremost was yesterday morning. Steelers cowboys hall of fame. Game early August. What are your thoughts? I like it I mean I mean many of you know that I'm turning fifty this year and me and Jeff were just talking about it off air. That sounds like a great fiftieth gift. Going to the hall of Fame Game Watching Troy encounter getting -ducted being around all those steeler fans giving a out about five hundred cards for this show. That sounds like that could work like we might get a summer boost. If I go to the game I'll just give out a bunch of cards and that just sounds like an awesome idea. Yeah I mean boy does the NFL know how to really. They know how to put things together. They saw Jimmy Johnson. They saw bill cower getting in they saw Troy Paulo. Malo being the headliner for this year's class. And like you know what? Let's put to the biggest fan bases the most followed teams. The best fans steeler fans and. Let's put them together in the hallway. Here's what I found very interesting. Is that the steelers. Played The cowboys this year. And typically teams don't play one another in the preseason that are gonNA play each other in the preseason. It's happened before the typically it's at four game where no one's playing Airli- Yeah Carolina. I think one year is Philly. I mean no one's going to be playing this game either. If you're thinking you're going to see Ben Rothlisberger in Canton Ohio Earth. Real football other than warming up. You're not going to see Ben Rothlisberger throwing a football in early August so I thought it was great move by the NFL and they know how they know what they're doing. They know they're doing. If you are a steeler fan and you want to go to an event and go to a gathering of steeler fans. That's not necessarily a Heinz field but would be really really awesome. Like land said that would be the week. And it just really stinks that Donnie. Shell's not getting in at that time. They're doing a separate induction ceremony in September. And he's getting in then. It's the stupidest thing ever why they wouldn't have all the steelers get in at the same time I have no idea under genyk and still gold right. It's not like a Maroon jacket now at the goal jacket yeah own. Jillian Hall of fame was junior hall of fame with an in Dutch. You guys it makes no sense because there are so many people. When there's an odd this centennial class? I get it that the guy told you when I made the announcing my gosh. That would be like a six hour of that with all the either tight end breaking it up. I don't know why you'd break up the steelers. I mean get them all on once get as many black and gold fans there to enjoy it now Donnie. Show that guy had to wait so long anyways now. He's got to wait again. Wait till September mini can't go in with his steeler family so that's the Ad Aetna well. Nfl get some stuff right but they always inevitably get a Lotta stuff wrong. That is true and the one thing that the steelers didn't get wrong was cutting Dante moncrieff just in time. Mr. They get their compensatory graphic. That's right that was announced yesterday as well yesterday afternoon. Third round draft pick believes pick one or two maybe wave you on bell's gone but naked robbed as we call them here and again a third round peg. What are your thoughts? I love the third round pick. So that's for that's for bill an moncrieff or so. That's a total compensation for both of them. Just rebels overall equation. Okay Yeah I love it. They didn't have a third rounder. So I mean you slot that in Or did they have a third rounder. I'm looking at it here now. They didn't have a third round or so great that gives them additional picks now. They have a second rounder. A third rounder to force a fifth of six in the seventh. And I don't think Obama fifth don't have fifth hour train gets dry. It says no pick traded to picks one nope pick so third round picks her valuable. So you know you need to hit. So it'll be of utmost important. They hit from that second in that third round or third round pick could beat at wide receiver or tight in that. Everybody wants them to draft. And so you know what the draft two more bites the apple that you get. It's always good because it's a random thing I mean. It's hard to pick guys COMPLA- quality football so having a third round or steal valuable and coveted. Pick if the steelers are doing the win now mode with. She talked about on multiple shows in the past week or so vacant trade that third round. Pick keep that in mind. This extraordinary picks they are now tradable and they weren't at one time I wouldn't be shocked if the steelers maybe make a move up whether it's in the third round. Maybe they if they WANNA move up in the third round early in the third round for a prospect. They really liked. They said. Hey you can take our one A. Two and we'll give you one of our force and four. Typically I have I have to find the calculator. It's it's typically out there forgotten. How Patch or later near the draft calculator where you put in one. Oh Two one oh four and give you where you could presumably jump. I mean I'm for sure. Those two Pixel get you higher in the third round. I don't know if that's enough compensation to get you in the second but if it could I mean if you can get two second round picks I'll take that instead of the third and fourth I'll take the two second round draft again in the fifth a in get to offense to players. Get the tide in get the wide receiver. Get the playmakers that they need on offense. I would love if they could do that. Yeah no I agree. Now Kenneth McNair. He says if the Eagles never cut eljay fort and the steelers cut moncrieff would that have changed anything. I don't think so it was because Eljay for God cut that they had to cut moncrieff to get that compared for bell so it was an easy decision because he couldn't catch a football but other than that. It's IT'S A it's a give and take it's Players out versus players. In so instance this option and production. That's true this season will be on my opinion in the wh unless something crazy happens will be one of those years that the steelers could prophet multiple complex. Because when you think about the players that they could be losing and they don't have money to really bring anyone so because of that if they lose it. J Von Hargrave. Bj Fini- Trying to think of any another unrestricted free agent. That might be gone but those two players that they both go and get repaid. Possibly if they go and they get paid then the steelers will reap the benefits of that if they don't go and get free ages themselves. That's something to keep an eye on. But that was the news this week. Landau now Jeff. The highest level of compensation. You can get a second round pick correct. Not sure if it's the second or third I don't think they gave out second round conflicts. I thought is okay. Yeah no it's not. I just probably second or third thought it was second but I'm sure Jeff I'm sure Dave knows that the Oracle is listening. So if you're listening Oracle chime in it's it's probably a third. I thought it was a second. But it's probably third and if you're in the live chat you know let us know by all means we trust your expertise is watch live out there in youtube land but in Atlanta. Now we're talking Dave Chimes in third is the highest. So that's right. That's what I thought lands and I were talking. You know this whole. Cba thing is really killing us. Because it's stalling everything It's pushing things like the franchise tag back and so here. We are as podcasters. That are giving you seven days of content. Seven podcast minimum a week. And what if they could just figure something out whether it's don't do this? Aba and we moved through twenty twenty with the same rules that are in place now or change the va go with the proposed and then we can move forward with maybe a new salary cab restructuring contracts in other words. It gives news right now. We're like in a holding pattern. Relate cruise ship out by lands is work. Can't go back so I said you know what let's do little either or tonight landslide. Let's shake it up and let's do little either. Were as I dubbed it in the Ted Line of the podcast may get more people to check it out some winners and losers look ahead to twenty twenty and we're going to kind of figure out a lot of women get your input who's GonNa do. Well maybe who's going to do better than others? You'll get the gist of it as we go. Are you ready Lance? I am ready all right either or I one is watching. Live get ready. WanNa hear your thoughts in the live chat who will have a better season in twenty twenty Juju Smith Schuster or Deontay Johnson? It's a tough one. Go ahead let me give you let me lay it out. Let me lay out the stats to further. Make the case compelling deontay Johnson Played Sixteen Games Jew. Play Twelve Deontay. Johnson had fifty nine receptions to Jews. Forty two he was targeted. More Ninety two to seventy he had more yards six. Eighty two five fifty. Two juju averaged more per catch thirteen point. One and Deonte Johnson had two more touchdowns five to three so if you look at if I look at the stats and I look at the top. Three receivers Juju deontay Johnson in James Washington. I think Ju it's going to have a better season. I think had juju played sixteen games. His numbers would have obviously been better than Deontay. Johnson's but I'm GONNA throw a little wrench in. It is Jeff. I think Juju is going to have a better year but I don't think either one of them are GonNa have a pro bowl year as a wide. Receiver will one of the to lead the steelers in receiving yards or will someone else may be step up in shock shock. Everyone someone like James Washington. I'M GONNA say I'M GONNA say it's GonNa be a running back that gets yards after the catch and gets a ton of targets and they are off and they utilize the short passing game to matriculate the ball downfield. But I'M GONNA say so I'm GonNa say Juju has a better year than Deontay Johnson in twenty twenty. Because I think he's a better player that I don't think either player will be a pro bowl receiver next year. I'm GonNa say that one is going to help the other. In other words Johnson be more of a threat is GONNA help Juju Smith Schuster. I'm GONNA say deontay Johnson is going to have more reception. Stooges misuse will have more yards. So let me ask you this last one Ryan. Kelman's is what is Lance on. I I honestly don't know we have to was the which Linda more indicative. Yes exactly which would be more indicative of a great season receptions yards or touchdowns touchdowns baby touchdowns what about the. Take away yards receptions yards Niagara. That's what I thought you give me. Yours like yards per catch like you know you can give me. You have more receptions but if you're averaging nineteen catch outtake that I thought you were going to go senior slim up does around one. He said that the best ad is wins. He's absolutely correct. That is the best ad. Big Up senior slim. Okay next one. Let's go to the next either. Or who have a better season in twenty twenty? Saint question different players. Mr Benny No jets or James always heard connor looking at their stats. It's like well. They both sucked last year. You can't really criticize 'cause he was a rookie. But James Conner started ten games. He played in ten games. Benny snail thirteen connor hundred sixteen attempts. Benny snail junior eight last eight fewer hundred eight connor four hundred sixty four yard snail junior four twenty six one average. Connor four-point yards per carry. Benny Snail. Three point nine Connor had four touchdowns. Benny SNELL had to. They were essentially the same player honest. They're almost like a bad squared. But if I looked at that I would think any snail. Junior will have a better year because the critical number in comparison to is one. Play ten games in one played thirteen. I have no faith James Connors going to stay healthy thus I think by default Binney Snell. Football will have a better season than James Connor. I'M GONNA go with Connor. Based on the fact Connor is going to have to get hurt for Benny. Snell to have a better year even as yoghurt. He's not gonNA hurt but even if he plays in twelve games that's GonNa Really Limit. Snell's potential to limit his Chances of having a better season so I I would say if I'm Vegas. I'm putting the over. Under James Connor. Games played at twelve. And a half. You take the over or under under really okay. Ten ten and a half under. I'm bought like eight nine. Oh my gosh. How many games. He playing this year. Ten so ten and he was hurting them. As you're saying eight nine ten. Max Aren't I'M GONNA take over? I think is going to be more of the two thousand eighteen James Connor than the two thousand nine hundred and James Caan so woolsey to the two thousand eighteen and a half James Connor. Can we get down? Ask All right now next when we go to the defense side of the football in these this position did not have a live line. Is Chad. Check that they did more interceptions between the two starting quarterbacks that'd be Joe Hayden or Steven Nelson Patrick. Oh excuse me not say make. If it's Patrick I'm going to say more interceptions will be eighteen. I think aiden will be targeted more but I think Nelson is the better corner. Because he's the better corner think they will stay away from him more and so I think that Hate will get more opportunities to get picks in so. I think it's going to be hating because he'll be more targeted most detailed tape. This past year Nelson had one against Buffalo Hain had three or a four and look and see if I could find it quickly Let's see here interceptions if I sort this here Joe. Hayden had five interceptions five. Okay at five interceptions Mak- Fitz Patrick had five. Tj WATT head to Devon Bush had to an Nelson Hilton. Edmonds Barron Sutton in Cam. Kelly all had one interception while you're listening to this podcast T. mobile was busy building. The largest five G. Network in America into it all during this podcast spent years improving their network to be ready for the future. Wireless Five G well futures here and it's nationwide. T. Mobile's five gene network is in over five thousand cities covering more than two hundred million. Americans. It's five g service you can actually use even in places where other signals just get locked like your living room or bank vault okay. Well not the last one. Now's the time you get ahead of the five G. Game Pick the first largest and only nationwide five G. Network go to t DASH MOBILE DOT COM. That's C. Dash mobile dot com capable device required coverage not available in some areas down Lincoln. Some uses may require certain plan or features C. T. DASH MOBILE DOT COM. Kelly's off the tip. I've listened to those numbers you have. Linebackers had four interceptions. Ideally like do you really think back in. Hold up in Twenty Twenty. That was an article published. Today it's a can. Can The steelers go into twenty twenty and actually say we're going to bank on some turnovers? I don't think you can. I mean combined combine the linebacker. So you get a linebacker. So that's four you throw in bear in the linebackers had five interceptions. As a group you can never bank on interceptions You just have to play football. It close to the ball rallied to the football game pressure good coverage and hopefully it results in turnovers But I'M GONNA go with What Hayden to have more interceptions? Who is your answer? I haven't given it yet I WANNA say Steven Nelson but I agree with what you said. And how he? He's the better cornerback. In quarterbacks are not gonNA throw his weight as much. It was crazy. How last last season is it? Was THE BUFFALO GAME. Which ironically was the game that he had his lone interception. He got he. Burr burned a couple times and fans. Were up in arms like look. This guy has been rock solid all season in today's NFL. You can't there's no more. Rivas Island you're GonNa get beat all the cornerbacks get beat sooner or later you just hope. It's not at a critical moment or a crucial spot in the game. He's that good I think. Hey also has good ball skills. At least we finally saw some in twenty nine. Hopefully that carries over to twenty twenty. So I'M GONNA go with Haden as well. Actually in Edwards is getting killed in the live chat and actually the admins who had an interception was. It was his brother. So I I. I did that on purpose because I knew people would say wait. A minute. Didn't get a turnover. He's never had. Its he ended turnover as a rookie one reception as a rookie. Get WHAT TAMPA BAY? I think it was I. Yeah I think so letting so. He's he's not around football where we saw in Arizona trying to defend the DADS is a is. He doing yes. He is not defending the past nor anywhere near. That was terrible. I mean that that that pick was right to him and he missed time. This leaping gave up a touchdown pass wanted to join the few times that you can kind of see the play unfolding in front of your and that's an easy pick. Nope touchy d'oeuvres. My job is to catch the football. No it's not okay. We're going to stay on the field ready. Yes and the defensive side to who has more sacks in twenty twenty T. J. Watt or the field that I don't know Vegas term for someone else other than T. J. Watt so cj Wa. That's coming up at thirteen and a half sack season. That's impressive the lance he got. It's GonNa be interesting because if there's no dupree T. J. Watt is really going to be the focus of slide protection. If you guys don't know what slide protections when a line tilts one way to you know pass block against a particular defender You. Slide protect Or you double team a guy as well so TJ There's a lot of slide protection. There's GonNa be a lot of chipping He's GONNA be getting chip by tight. Ends backs coming out of double team blocks in a bud. Depre- is gone. I don't know if there's GonNa be a person to offset some of that where I'm GonNa go with the field. I'M GONNA go with somebody else in the field has the equal number of sacks or possibly more so. I'm thinking that TJ's total comes down closer to ten. Maybe like nine nine and a half but another guy gets more sacks to make up for his lap lost sacks so I'm GonNa go with the field. He's let me ask you this question because I'm going to take T. J. Watt because you talk about slide protection you talk about extra tight ends chipping from the backfield. That's all we know that you're telling me though that bud duprey in an in an eleven and a half sack season. We're assuming that they keep him at least for twenty twenty. Let's go with that assumption. That he was dead disrespected by opposing offenses. That they never once had I mean. Dj Wad face this type of he faces type of offensive adjustment all season. I think I mean he was beaten. Everybody is not like it was the first running back to ever chip him. Not to mention okay. I see what you're saying and I'll grant you that point who's going to be coming back to the lineup. That's going to be standing right next to. Yeah you don't think that matters so I'm just going with the field. I think it's GonNa be I think's GonNa be think he's going to have. I think it's going to be the same as record Ralph. I think they tie at nine. But then To chimes in with like seven or eight eight and a half somewhere like that has nine. I think he leaves gets ten. What about teaching appeal on him to teach the phone? He he's the ball out if there's no depre- TO GET TEN. I mean he's GonNa ball out anyway but all the attention is going to be centered on on stopping them. Maybe we'll see. I guess that's the thing I ask. Is You know you said they're always going to be focused on stopping him? You don't think that was the case coming into two thousand seventeen I do but I don't know if it'll be as I mean I think after this year I'm sure there was a ton of focus on stopping him but after this she after his last year and you don't have another principal pass rusher to Kinda even it out and no. I am not suggesting that but do pre was the reason he had a great year. 'cause I know I just. I pissed off. Anthony Blew. It isn't polluted. It'd be great if his last name was Bulla. You blew it out our great But I think it's a we'll see 'cause I 'cause I think offense will definitely Really try to be stopping a TJ. Because you can't you can't sly protect every play you can't ship all the time Sometimes you get one on one situations but I'm GonNa go with the field. I`Ma go with the field you took the field and I took. T. J. Watt. Let's go to another one. This is interesting. This is kind of multifaceted. Anthony says that you pronounce it correctly. Anthony Blewett. He's at all my life. Yeah that stuff. I just want apologize for you. So more starts now. Cats keyword more starts not better season better stats more starts in two thousand twenty. Mason Rudolph or James Connor. I'm GonNa say it was a great one jeff because Jeff came up with that when that was Kinda funny it better be James. Cotter Rudolf Mad. Our numbers were. Our numbers will be terrible. People will stop watching and yet it'd it'd be really bad it. It's gotta be Connor is going to have more starts to Mason Rudolph. I agree with you in like you said we'd better pray that James Conner has more starts than Maysville because if Ben Rothlisberger has down again. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's another two thousand. Nineteen and twenty twenty nine. Is this GONNA be another year vetting? I think we'd sees this hypothetical if Bingo's down a Mrs let's say eight nine games plus I think you gotTa really think about Giving him the scissor mode a trim from super cuts in the twenty twenty one season. You're meaning just cutting ties of them. Yes he might have to get a crow Vardis. Why it's interesting that that's that's what we talked about. A little bit on Sunday was name. Worst case scenario would have been comes back and sucks or what if he gets hurt again in and then you're like now what the business. Then it's a business had been you. You got to move on. The franchise lives on. Thank you for your service. Snippers SHIFTS NIPS. And he can't. He can't be upset if he gets reinjured. Or if he's I don't have it anymore. He's laughing all the way to the bank. It's there's a lot of guaranteed money in that contract so he doesn't Care Mr Positive Hater lands. That's a great the positive hater. That's I love that that's great is can you be? Can that be a thing? I'd positive hater. You're definitely a hater. The positive ater. Will you know? Ask Ron I guess Ron will chime back into the live Chat Ron. You've got to answer that question. Can you be a positive hater? Well I coined the phrase the positive hostage. You can be positive but you can hold your franchise hostage. I mean you can be an older player that brought in a ton of success to an organization but later in your career you become an albatross on the salary cap. They really need to move on from you. But they can't. Because you had a positive impact on the franchise I'll give you a perfect example ally. Rogers not Eli Rodriguez. Eli Eli Manning. Excuse me not Eli. Rogers ally manning was the positive hostage. They won a couple of super bowls would lie but he was a bomb late in his career. He counted like twenty something million on a salary. Cap So Wow hopefully that's not true would doubly. Yeah I'm like wow I just I did see that the thunder game was postponed prior to tip off. And I don't Wanna I don't WanNa say would he typed in the live chat because I don't want to corroborate any information that I can't Scofield is cooperating. Europe will said it while the nist just is pretty much. This is the worst case scenario for the NBA. This is real. I mean this is. Wow we just go. We go right into the topic yet. We might as well just jumping through the topic. Unless there's any the other questions that you WanNa talk about. I think that was the last one I think anyway. Yeah there were a couple of other ones but we can talk okay so for those. That are listening. Live maybe an audio platform. You've probably heard the news that I guess the NBA season is canceled The rest of their season. I'm not sure I haven't seen the you've been on the air so I haven't seen anything but I guess a player for the Utah. Jazz might have contracted the corona virus therefore just like a lot of events are canceled throughout the country and It's just a it's crazy times crazy times right now As someone that is a health guy I definitely Am curious about this. Inner this stuff going on and you know I. I don't know what to say that the steelers released a statement. I Guess Burt Lawton the Director of public relations. He was asked by. Nfl NFL networks. Tom Police row. What's the steelers deal with a pro days and stuff and they said that they're still going to be attending but there scouts are going to arrive private jet or they're going to be driving they're not going to be flying any type of commercial flights Which I guess are still going on for now at least in the continental United States. So okay read over and says that the NBA suspending the season. So they figure out how to deal with it pretty much the NHL is. They're they're getting to the point where they'd for instance. The Pittsburgh was playing the Columbus Blue Jackets tomorrow. Thursday night. No fans are going to be allowed in the game so they're gonNA play to with an empty arena. That's GONNA. That's gotta be unbelievably strange for an athlete. If you think about it We know that the Ivy League canceled their a basketball tournament and now the NC Double A. is basically saying that for them and March madness only close family relatives and the the people that are working with the teams like the trainers and the officials are going to be allowed in the Arenas Lance. Just give me your general thoughts on what's happening here. The impact on sports is very Obvious but let's get your take Yemi. I'm I'm part of a live chat that I have. I chat with my cousins in. You know my brother and friend really close friends. We've been going back and forth about everything today and My cousin mouth. He's listening to the program. Hopefully listen to the program. He made a very good point about players. Being human too. And I think when you get to my age I'm close to fifty. I think you you realize the economic impact. Unfortunately I and I think most sports organizations day see players as commodities in human beings but indeed players are human beings to have family soon so forth and I am not surprised at the NBA was going to wait until someone is infected. Before they took the next step the first step was going to be play in empty. Arenas the next step would be will figure out what we're GONNA do if someone gets infected. I don't think that league if they chose to terminate the season would be overreacting I think it's a strain liability issue And it's a public safety issue. And so you know I think it's it's critical that people take a step back before they take a step forward. In Err on the side of caution It's wild that I've never witnessed something like this in my lifetime And you know you can be jaded at my age that it's all about the money but it's all about your health. Health is wealth and hopefully Those players don't get too sick or the day infected anyone else on the staff so on and so forth but right now I mean. It's it's if you're in the NBA. I mean this is the worst case scenario for the NBA and with that being said for the steelers travelling in going to places I mean in California in certain counties they have limited Assemblies two thousand or less honestly. I think it's pretty irresponsible for the steelers to send guys on planes to go places and try to manage it. The best way to manage it is to not go to pro day visits. Go Jape I mean just. We'll we'll there'd be pro day. Visit Stephen Goto. My guess is now universities. I know that in our area in Maryland University of Maryland Talisman UNBC and a bunch of other universities in the area. Western University. Have all sent students home early and they said after this all electric so therefore if athletes earn on campus. I doubt that the football program will get the green light to be able to. But then again you're Alabama Nick's next Saban walks on water. He might say I'm going to have some workouts and big okay. That's fine here's what the steelers should do. In my opinion if a player wants to come to do a workout. You send that player a ticket you make that player sign a waiver and you have that player train on your facility or a feel that it. That's in Pittsburgh but traveling around the country now. This is really weird. I think the pro days are going to be canceled. I think that's the responsible thing to do. And maybe it's private workout. Somehow you figure that out but This is going to impact. The draft is gonNA impact almost everything. I'm curious what the NFL is going to do with the draft. Now they have a little bit of time. It's not until the end of April. I believe they're going to have a little bit of time to figure out how they want to handle that in terms of will they still have it in. Vegas will be just kind of like the lottery with the Ping Pong Balls. And all of a sudden they know someone stands up the representative from organization to says up. The steelers have taken in the second round with pick Blah Blah. This player and there's just not the pomp and circumstance. I think the draft will still go on shoot did they. They don't need anybody there for the draft anymore. They they everyone could be in their home own organization. The steelers would be at the U. P. M. C. Rooney's sports complex. And they could be sitting in a room watching on television or on a special feed that all teams will have and when it's their time to make a pick. They pick up the phone like they already do in the draft call in their pick and then there they go. And so yeah. They're staying home. They're staying home. Yeah saying in the live chat that they're saying no fans Vegas for the draft. I haven't seen that official but then I haven't been paying attention so it could have been made official knives in. I have some friends that were going to think. It's called stage coach. Which is the country version of Coachella? I think that's what it's called And it's just flat cancel. Coachella is cancelled like everything is cancelled. I mean they're they're they're canceling everything and I know that I know at my daughter's school and we talked about Jeff that they're doing a test run to see if the kids can do school from home because a majority of them were given As part of you know tuition and all that stuff they have like Ike macbook pros or I pat pros or whatever they're called And so if you have good Wi fi you're going to be taking classes at home. A Nike said. I mean we've been through a lot of weird stuff in just my lifetime whether it's the h one n one. Which was the swine flu or a bunch of the other things in this seems to be a little bit more legit than any of the others so Do Your Research folks basically do your research? Don't trust everything easy is it could five dollars help. I don't WanNa let see that's cold. He said the NFL season will be played on. Madden if this continues and I it this point in time and look. I listened to sports. Talk Radio on my way to work on the way back as an overall hour and a half in the car okay every day and when I listen this has dominated talk because this is Alan spilling into sports we ultimately understand. This is miniscule compared to the global and our country in terms of the health crisis that we might be facing but sports is being impacted. So that's why we talk about it Will it impact the football season? Actually the football season I sure. Hope not it's GonNa take time but I I don't know is no one nuts. It's It's interesting. There's another rumor floating around while it's breaking news it's on CNN now. Tom Hanks in his wife test positive corona viruses. Well SO FORREST. Gump got it but now it does not mean. He's going to die from it. He is just tested positive for. Let's let's keep all this in in contacts did not everyone contracts the virus ends up dying from it if you do some research. It's not that to them. Not taking it lightly. Trust me. I'M NOT. I'm a fitness guide. I'm a father of five. That's just need. This is definitely been red flags up and down but at the same time. Let's see how things play out here and it'll it's scary. It's absolutely scary so I don't know you guys are terrible. I had to. I had to put you guys just brakes here. Just a dad for putting it on the screen glance not me. That's terrible. He's actually from Oakland California so Tom. Hanks went to skyline high school. The same high school gear as Gary. Payton so he's in from in the ship is here. The irony is the ship is docked in Oakland. He Yeah this. This is real. I mean this is this is absolutely real and I and I don't think it's wag the dog I mean I don't think you release a pandemic on the world because it's an election year. I mean I'm not that jaded we. That's that that's that's a ton of jade right there. That's that's the greatest ever in the C- But yeah man this this is. This is real Apparently They caught virus in Australia. Hello this is Jesse David Fox. I'm senior editor at vulture and I host the podcast. Good one eight podcasts. About jokes it's a podcast about well jokes. Every week I sit down with a comedian comedy writer or director to one of their jokes and figure out how it all came together. I don't sit down with a pen and a pad and physically write down everything I just has not my style turns out comedians. Take jokes pretty seriously. I like all jokes. Okay that's what I do. That's what I live with is really nothing else I care about. It's all very revealing. What did you sort of learn from this? What was your takeaway? Nothing Guyane not. I'm not sure Mar Kirsch good one from culture and the Bach media podcast network. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or on your favorite podcast APP. Do not use the puck effort. Let a great quested Jesse David Fox That's crazy that is crazy and and the thing is that it's one of those situations where it's it's totally unprecedented someone asking earlier. I mentioned the penguins game which. I'm not even sure we'll still happen. They might have changed their mind but in in the state of Ohio. Governor said there's going to be any public gatherings of over X. Number of people therefore sporting events if they're being played will be played to an empty arena so if the penguins still play is I. I can't remember a time. Let's let's tease this out. Jeff Rudy Go. Bear is the player from the Utah Jazz who was to who tested positive for corona virus. What's the incubation period? That they're saying like two and a half to three weeks. You can run out there saying before you start. Exhibiting symptoms is every talking about or just before they feel okay for you to return to be around people that I don't know I know that you can have the virus in your system. Some people can be fourteen days. But that's until symptoms start to arise so you can be a symptomatic and there's some people that have no signs or symptoms like I would be. I wouldn't be shocked if every professional sports team is testing all their players whether they're sick or not and so he the senator from the Utah Jazz. Isa who he is and follow the he might have been I. I feel fine we talking about. Let's go play ball actually. You're not fine. You actually have the virus so there you go. Double H H says my kids school closings apparent attended a party where two people later diagnose had the virus today former people from that party test positive so he's high school closed down for all of March. This is yeah I would imagine that the Utah Jazz season either. They're going to suspend the whole season. Definitely to the jazz can play again or the jazz is season is over. You can't just cancel one team season so you care. So they'll suspend the season until jazz players can play again now in India like Mark. Tobin asked to have a cure. There's no cure. There's no cure for any virus. Really basically what you have to do. Is You have to learn how to manage it. And so what's GonNa Happen? It's GONNA take time. It's GonNa take months until enough people have it in enough. People have beaten it that they develop an immunity to it and then the virus will slowly die off but this thing is not going away not any of love cures all areas out in California. Fix It over. E- love no way. I I don't know I would. Never Order Uber eats. I don't trust people bringing fries to my house or it could be like jeff not make not eat fries and have to worry about it but jeff not to worry about your Burrito Bowl on Uber eats from Japan. I guess I guess I would anger overeat. The only the only fast food that I get. I'll be going to pick in that on myself. I know you do like a lot of Guacamole on that thing. Yeah I do I do. This is in. I'm just reading. Some of the people live chat. And there's just so many people to believe different things and some are saying is on on the bad saying this is going to be years. I've no one knows period the senior. No one knows senior slim has gone on Iran SORTA But we love you senior slam like Ria. Jeffer- live chat Catelli. Well like audio here. This is a great great audio heavy. Though I mean we're just shocked. I mean I don shocked at did not I did not Come home thinking that the NBA season would be cancelled. F- indefinitely. I knew it was a possibility but man I mean it just is what it is. I mean we're doing good radios anybody else we're just getting bombarded with it but man. I think this really alters the draft I think it alters visits I think it's GonNa be a lot of evaluation of tape so actually teams might do a better job of actually. Picking guys guys are going to be sending medical all types of stuff so I think everything's going to change with every bit public. Gather and with those changes. We will have you covered. You know we're not going anywhere As long as there's Internet we will be doing podcasts. And behind the steel curtain DOT com. We'll be keeping you up to date on all things Pittsburgh steelers. It might not be much. But we'll talk about whatever's going on I know I have the steelers stance on it. It's going to run tomorrow morning So make she keep checking that out. Oh my goodness you guys are funny. Muhammad Ali says guys. If anything happens I just WANNA say sorry for making fun of Your Wife Islands. My wife is solid now though took awhile he's easier. He's getting Wi fi solid so all right anything to add. No you want me to take us out. Jeff Yes let's do it in his always tuning. Tell a friend and subscribe and especially stay safe absolutely couldn't have said it better myself. We'll see you next Wednesday. Hopefully for another episode the standard. It's the standard data easy everyone.

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Workhorse RBs Who Might Not Be Very Good (05/19 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

47:45 min | 6 months ago

Workhorse RBs Who Might Not Be Very Good (05/19 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports got email us at fantasy football. Ed CBS. I DOT COM it's time to dominate your fantasy league of Janey quiz oxide. It's route three or four. Maybe five of your fantasy draft. You need a running back like a little bit more security there. So you're looking at a guy who's GonNa get a lot of carries for st but a c? Might not be very good and he might not be very good. What do you do? What do you do probably draft so probably well depends on what I've done? My first four picks well. Okay probably around four. What if it's round foreign? It's Levy on bell or Melvin Gordon. Todd Gurley do I have any running back so my team already? You have one then. I don't feel like I have to take one of those guys. That's what I do. Okay hot shot and heath. What do you do? Hotshot depends on who the player is because some of these guys that you're not sure if they're any good. I'm pretty sure there are good. I think you're not so sure about who's going to be a workhorse or not but yeah I I'm I might. I might take him and Ben before you say what you're GONNA do. Thank you for coming on. This is so nice of you after what happened last time to have you awake at all the show. We're bed gretch everybody. Yes yeah Were Gordon in the afternoon today. So that's good that's helpful. Yeah Ben overslept last week. Which is understandable. He's on the West Coast and we were requesting alarm for every show missed the first one a year. It's okay yeah. Why was an off-season show? You're allowed so the the theme today running backs who aren't very good. Who might not be that good but are going to get a lot of work and the ones that I came up with Bill James Connor. Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon. David Johnson David Montgomery and Leonard Fournette. And S- thanks to heath for making include David. Montgomery we don't know how good these guys are. We don't know where they are in their career. They're over the hill or not in some cases. Ben I assume you'RE NOT GONNA draft any of them on but yeah so because bins not going to draft any of them because he doesn't think any of these guys are any good. Did he even listen to the fullness of names because some of these guys could be pass catchers? Yeah I think James Conner could be intriguing with the recent comments that he could be their lead back. I think David Montgomery might actually wind up being a little bit undervalued David Johnson at the right price. Maybe but this for me is a lot of guys earn. Todd Gurley maybe at the right price as well but it's a lot of guys that are going in that running back dead zone that that I researched and wrote about last year. And they're quintessential denzo running backs. The ones that do actually tend to succeed in that range. Typically are younger backs is you. Just. Don't see a lot of backs get it back later in their career after they've lost it. Okay so I'm looking forward to bring these guys down. Heath I said Levy on Bell James Connor. Todd Gurley David Johnson. David Montgomery Melvin Gordon. Leonard Fournette are any of those guys. Good well listen. We know that several of them have been good. Couple of those guys were inefficient last year. I think it would be wrong to say. Melvin Gordon's not good. Bye sure he had a bad a bad. Why for a couple of years performing four or five years under four? But I don't think like sure he's good or any of these guys. Great probably not but I think I think most of them are still above average running back talents in defensive. Gordon's Y. P. PC. They were like the worst league at running up the middle on. I intend in obvious run situations for a couple of years of his career and he's always been a pass catcher. I tend to agree with that. He's good I'm more concerned about his offense and the competition is backfield. Yeah I'm not sure that Melvin Gordon fits into the potential workforce right but I think he'd be pretty close to it. They made a concerted effort to get him. They obviously didn't like certain elements of Philip. Lindsay's game he's a better pass. Catcher than Lindsey. I think that goes without saying I. I think he could end up in a workhorse role by October. So that's all coming up soon. Let's do some news and notes real quick Ben Rothlisberger posted a video of himself throwing teammates. He only played in two games in two thousand nineteen but in two thousand eighteen. He had basically is best season through number three quarterback and fantasy five thousand one hundred twenty nine yards thirty four touchdowns and even through in three rushing touchdowns in sixteen games. So this is good news but not enough yet on Robert Right. I'm just really glad that juju shared the video. Because if he hadn't nobody else would have seen it. Because Ben Rothlisberger blocked everyone on twitter I think it's a positive. Yeah I mean you can't really tell how rothlisberger is doing other than he shaved his beard But the fact. He's out there throwing the ball with teammates. It's not bad. I actually know someone who may have been out there that I could ask. Oh May in. May you know we're three and a half months from through week one so the fact that he's already throwing you know he heard it early in the year last year he's already gotten through the the hard part of his Rehab. We'll have plenty of time to see how he's doing in the next couple of months and yeah I'd say it's pretty promising as well. Green Bay head coach. Matt floor is super impressed. Super impressed with former. Cfo Wide Receiver Reggie Bagel ten. And I was trying to figure out how to pronounce his name. I looked at some some youtube highlights from his CFL days. Which of course is Canadian football? And you got. The announcer caught him Bagel ten. But I'm wondering if that's kind of a Canadian thing you know like a but I would love for his name to be pronounced Bagel to now be a lot more fun for team names and stuff like that. It'd be a lot of fun of his name actually pronounced what do you mean? Oh you mean like actually does something is someone says his name during an NFL. At the season I love the fact that grew by didn't getty receivers in the draft got criticized for another talking up their CFL player. Who is a made up? Play Right Reggie bagels. That you made this up right now. I did not but the way beds says it does sound like Bagel. Too I liked frank. Reich sees a lot of catches for Naim hines and Reich is also optimistic. Rivers is going to be on the team for more than one season but he really seems to like the fit of rivers and high ins hindsight sixty three catches as a rookie forty four catches in his two thousand nineteen season. Can he had sixty catches naive Heinz? I think he could. 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Your jailer Shard or Theo riddick or james white or something like that. So that's how bad he was with his carries last year and his lack of touchdowns Lebanon Bell. James Conner didn't exactly get a fair shake last season. Todd Gurley was a top fourteen running back. I don't know how that felt for fantasy for his fantasy managers but he finished top twelve ninety. Pr Fourteenth PR scored much duties he did. He scored fourteen. David Johnson goes to Houston the last four seasons. Houston's lead running back whether it's Lamar Miller. Ricardo side is finished. Sixteenth Fourteenth Twenty Second Twenty third and non. Pr Eighteen Sixteen twenty third and thirty first NPR. And they've never score this is. This is crazy to Houston's lead running back these last four years never scored more than six touchdowns that's rushing and receiving combine. David Montgomery two hundred and forty two carries in the last three seasons Rico and era. Chicago's lead running back to seventy six two hundred and fifty two hundred and forty two carries. You Got Melvin Gordon. Going over to the Broncos who actually have been more run heavy than the chargers over the last five seasons. And that's the Melvin Gordon Era. And then you got Leonard Fournette who had two hundred sixty five carries and fifteen games. He also had seventy six catches he was thirteenth. Pbr He was seventh and PR. But again how did that feel for the fantasy manager especially non PR? Did you feel like you were getting a reliable running back? And what can we expect this year? So here are some questions about these running backs. Who gets the most carries in this group for another Montgomery for me? I Have Montgomery currently just edging out. David Johnson for net bell girly. They're all pretty close Gordon and Connor ways back but I'll probably readjust connor again soon. Would he have connerotte? Just curious I to twenty I think and that's all over sixteen games. It's all project on you. Don't ever take out injuries right okay. So they're all north of two twenty. Yeah and are they all under three hundred? Yeah I've got to sixty five. I do think it's interesting. The first six weeks of the season last year. They did some weird things with the running backs. A to Cordeiro Patterson experienced. They had the Mike Davis running the football for a game or two from week. Seven on I believe maybe it was. We gave the last eight or nine games. This season Gumri was on pace for about three hundred touches. Who gets the most catchers out of these running backs? I think. Levian is kind of easy. Answer here yeah. I've got levy on probably projected for fifteen more catches than anybody else knows group. I'm not sure there's another guy on here. That could even get to forty five cash. Melvin I've got Melvin at fifty two and I think girly could get to fifty as well and Johnson. I mean we can't. We don't throw their backs as much. There is photo Duke. Yeah no I understand that but they also don't ever shavers like you. WanNa grow stat. That's true good a title receivers. They go yeah have a bunch of like Fokker ones if al get hurt then David. Johnson's got a chance to forty five or fifty catches Houston's running backs up combined for fifty four catches per season in the Shawn Watson era. Yeah well in the bill. O'brien era no running side more than forty four catches that was due Johnson last year Ryan. My was all running backs combined. Not just one. It's the highest pass catcher. That's all of them. David is going to split those fifty four catches with Duke. Oh I think there was last year though more catches last year last year was the first year with Duke Right. He had forty four. Has Catching backs impact these trends a little bit like when Christian? Mccaffrey went to Carolina. I I remember I was really concerned about Cam. Newton's history but then he started to Christian. Mccaffrey ton like they brought Johnson. They're paying him a lot of money. I don't think they're only throat him thirty times and Johnson. I didn't even realize this David Johnson. He is like the man when it comes yards per catch. He's every year is over ten. That's has averaged up target. Usually pretty high. It's not for most banks. Most banks are right. On the line of scrimmage their average depth but Johnson actually gets out route which I think could happen in Houston on. Why was referencing receivers? Okay who has the most upside in? This could be four net. Just because you know Doug Marrone says let-bygones-be-bygones this dude run. He probably has the greatest opportunity. None of us want to draft them. Based on the amount of work he had. Last year the positive touchdown regression. Everybody thinks that he's kind of the odd man out eventually Jacksonville but I I kinda think it's him like if if if there was never a rumor of the Jaguars Trading Leonard Fournette. I'm pretty sure he'd still be ranked in my top fifteen running backs. I think it's gotTa be four net or bell because either for net or bill could have two hundred fifty plus carries and sixty plus catches like they. They could have just enormous upside with that type of volume. I know they worked for. The bell wasn't efficient last year. But if the guy's got a chance at three hundred ten touches the automatically has enormous upside. I question that what is enormous upside. Well I I I think that running back efficiency is less about running back and it's not particularly stable over a year to year basis levy could average four yards per carry this year and it wouldn't surprise anybody sure we'll all aside. Were at eleven hundred rushing yards sixty passes at seven yards of pop even were at four fifteen hundred yards already right but he doesn't really have frank were what's that he does have frank or there. Yeah that's that's Kinda scary. That's not that Gore's good but you know case like some engage used too much two years ago at Miami. What about James Cotter does James Caan? I'd have the most upset. He was top running back two years ago and I'm not sure how much the situation has changed. I think up there as someone who has most upset. Samuel worries me there. Just 'cause I Frank Gore might take a bunch of first down carries away but they could make the stupid decision to throw the ball to Jalen Times again and it's not just samuels. In fact they didn't even mention Samuels. Tomlin was just talking about the depth of his running backs he mentioned snell first and then he mentioned McFarland. Mcfarland can catch the ball out of the backfield. I think he can do it. They were talking about that last year. Too and when push came to shove I went back. I looked at every game that connor played. Well the first seven I guess we got hurt. He dominated carries. He dominated carries. He basically dominated catches except for one game where he and. Jalen singles both had eight catches. That's when they ran a bunch of wildcat because her quarterbacks were hurt and it actually Like I think four of Samuel's catches if I remember correctly. Were the jet motion where Connor was the one who actually theoretically passed it was the tip pass dot dominated dominated carries inside the five yard line. It was last year. It was James Connors backfield not sale be the same issue but they they said the same stuff last season and it did not really play out. I who has the most downside they all have a ton so this this concept of upside downside is why. I don't target these types of backs and I've said this before on this podcast. This is the range running backs where I think you and this house questioning. He's coming on on bells upside. It's where I think you have kind of small upside you're talking about beating ADP. But I don't think that's really worth the risk when all of these guys have huge downside. Most running backs do but a lot of these are old and have injury histories and I I wanna make picks were my my rangers like small downside to ADP and a huge upside. Like you guys don't like where I take. Aj Brown in large part because You know he looks like he's not gonna be able to get an targets to meet that cost but he at at worst. He's a small loss and at best a huge win. And I think that range is really important in this type of running. Back is the inverse of that. These guys all have massive downside. I might be I think that just has I like not turn this into an. Aj Brown argument like him in the fourth round. He has significant downside if he's just a good receiver and still gets ninety targets. There's no way he's getting hearts but we won't get into Asia Rob. He's a lock for one hundred ten and we can get into that another time. Yeah I'm sure we will. I have no doubt Dave who is the most outside almost think we should discuss it and come to a consensus conclusion because everybody on this list has some serious downside I would. I feel like I'm throwing a dart on this one and I really don't like it because he's the youngest kinda group but I think David Montgomery could be it. 'cause if he gets off to a cold start in Chicago. I don't see the coaching staff sticking with him. What did they do? Who Do they go to Tariq Cohen and they start throwing the ball more? They don't go to Harrys though they can't do that. Well what do they do? If David Montgomery gets hurt weak one. Well now he's now he's Celtics if he's averaging three yards per carry and he's not providing anything in the passing game then. I think the coaching staff which is desperate to win can afford to keep him. They can't afford to keep feeding them. Carries key wasn't worse than Tariq Cohen last year? Running the ball. They just couldn't run the ball. I don't necessarily gave Cohen a real chance to run the ball but he's like five six times way more explosive than David Montgomery is. He's a role player. He's never going to be a fifteen he's he's a scat back. Use them on the edges. You can't run in the gaps. He'll destroyed so it doesn't that okay. So that's a thought on David. Montgomery who who else who else might have. I mean Burnett obviously dude. We could add every single on this list. The Jaguars don't like for that. So there's a chance he gets traded or might be good for him. I mean it was probably Connor before these recent comments that he's going to be there lead back because they they have a deep backfield and there was some thought that they could rotate more. I think the rest of these guys are pretty comfortably. The lead backs in the backfield. I didn't feel as comfortable with James Garner. I do and I don't know if it's him I but if you're saying throughout injuries like who has the biggest workload risk I I would say to names that I'd put the top one. Melvin just because I think Phillip Linzie and Royce Freeman are the best competition any of these guys have for actual touches. And then also I'd say David Johnson just on the risk that they give him the Carlos Hyde role in Duke Johnson keeps third down. It's so funny how we could all look at these seven running backs bell connor girly Johnson. Montgomery Gordon Yeah seven running dice and just see things differently. You know 'cause I I mean at this point. How Freeman competition? How why would he have a role pass protector than Philippians? But he's not a better pass. Protector Melvin Gordon. And he's cheap. He's not a better. He's not a better cat receiver Kelvin. Corden that's gotta be. Melvin Gordon's role. And yes I agree. Yeah but I'm not even disagree with what you said. He just that didn't really occur to me with Moist Freeman. I guess I disagree with that part but Philip. Liz are absolutely right. Well he's the best third third running back on any team he is and he's the best second. Yeah probably yeah. I don't see who else it would be. Well I mean cream hunt would probably something to say about that. The guys were talking about. Oh yeah okay. So Lemme me on. You could also make the case for his downside. He's probably GONNA lose ten carries a game to Frank Gore because Adam gazes nuts and I think we can't. We can't write that off either. They've never really committed to a a number one back. Even though we don't know who is backups. Going to be any of Ito's Smith Quadri all listen or Brian Hill. But just because we can't put our finger on who that is. It seems pretty likely that somebody's going to be involved. Oh Yeah I'm just assuming that's the case that's why I didn't say girly for the upside. I don't think really has much of a chance to get more than two hundred fifty touches. Does he have a chance to average four yards a carry? Sure all these do. Is they have a chance to get ten touchdowns. How many other running backs on this list can we say that about? I think there's maybe to ten any well you say you don't draft any of them but if I if I told you they were going to do what. Todd Gurley did last year. Which was like three point seven yards with fourteen touchdowns because he gets all the goal I work and he didn't even have that big of a role I mean. He had be thrilled where people I mean. When would you take that player? That's my Cleveland. Second Round Yeah. No he was a bust based on where he went a small bust but and that was going on the floor. When would you take? When would you be comfortable taking that last year's edition of Todd Gurley? When should he have gone? I'm just I mean probably in the fourth or the fifth or whenever you know because he could have gone higher than that if you knew you're getting it and you know that you're like that's the hypothetical game playing like that's probably okay. Fine Dave. I'm sorry you're probably. Maybe I would take an even higher if I was that confident that there was no risk and I was going to get fourteen touchdowns on my running back shirt but like I I want guys that are GonNa Actually Leagues like ANA analyst easy to say. But this is what he did last year. My point is like it. I don't think you would necessarily what. What else pushing back on that comment that he would be. You'd be thrilled to have it. I don't know that I'm thrilled to have what he did last year. L. On my fancy team my guess is GonNa of what he did. The manager who one is Lee. Cry Didn't do it because of Todd. Gurley no but he finishes a top fourteen running back and PR. He finished top twelve inconsistency. He had eight games with at least fifteen pr points. He played fifteen games more than half of his games. He can't point so he's a terrific number two fantasy and other games. He didn't get to fifteen and did nothing for me. He had one two three single digit. Pbr Games. I also had one two threes high floor. Npr Games yeah but he also caught thirty one passes so devante. Freeman was like a beast in the passing game. You know so. I don't know what his role is going to be. I mean I think for girly. It's GONNA come down to touchdown catches and I don't know what to expect. Because Freeman Freeman and his last. Three healthy seasons has averaged less than fifteen carries per game and last year was thirteen. Point one so you can't. I don't know that you can expect more than fifteen carries a game for Todd Gurley. What are the catch is going to be like? Freemans Been Freeman last year. Average four point two catches per game and usually he's in the three to four range in catches per game. Gurley was so bad catching the ball last year. So I think it's receptions go up yeah I think there's a real chance they go way up. He was better outer space than it was between the tackles anyway. The rams were dumb not to use a more as a best cash was horrible. They if he was six point seven yards per. Catch that slight. I believe I don't know why but I feel like he was better as a pass catcher than he was a I feel like he had more explosive plays maybe we. He was bad both he was. He was bad last year he had earlier you explosive moments. Yes yeah I will let. Maybe we should talk about this. In terms of average draft position or where. They're going to get drafted. I'm trying to look at the most recent mock we did. I don't know that I have it. I have one from after the NFL draft. We could use that but I think it was probably before the Franco signings. Take that for what it's worth but here we go on girly had three plays of twenty plus yards through the air. That's ten percent of his sketches. He had five carries of twenty plus yards over two hundred twenty three catches so her took two hundred twenty three carries excuse me so five percent of his runs and ten percent of his catches were explosive on umbrella and Leonard. Fournette went late round three in this draft that we did thirty thirty fourth and thirty fifth overall. Since then. You've got the frank or signing got Chris Thompson Levy Bell. Not going this high. Where should we put them? Where do you think I struggle with them both a lot? You know I wouldn't take until about the sixth round. So where should it because I think for net went? I think then you took a Mike. Almost sixtieth overall late round five recent draft. Which I've got okay. Fifty seven th and what about bel? I still think you should go on the end of the third round. Dave what about you? Enter THE MOVE BELL. Go like round five around six. I'M GONNA put at the end of the fourth round. I'm GONNA put her forty eighth. So if that's the case Todd. Gurley is thirty. Eighth off the board. Melvin Gordon is thirty Ninth Levian. Bell is forty eighth. David Johnson is fiftieth. James Connor is fifty second Leonard Fournette. Let's call him sixty eighth and I feel like I missed someone mcgary. Yeah Montgomery is also around sixtieth. Basically you've got Gordon and girly and around three beginning of round four and then late round four through late round five. You've got everybody else. You've got bill Johnson Montgomery James Connor Leonard Fournette. What do you feel like girly and Gordon should be going ahead of them? Yeah all of them. I I have those two ahead of all the guys but bill and I fell. I've got bell fairly behind them. I it's funny. I said around five around six in your. I'm looking at my rakings. And he's right at forty eight but it doesn't mean that I would be happy with their. I guess I'd be okay with it. I'd rather have connor. You mentioned Connor Fifty second overall. I'd love to have at that value and I do think bells value is significantly different. Npr versus not bure. But those. I think it's easy to undervalue those catches. I'm going to try to justified. Talk Heath out of bells if we can get heath move him down. Four or five rounds. We're GONNA take a quick break here though on fantasy football today when we come back more on these running backs for this program in the following message comes from the comedy central. Podcast stand up with Tom. Takhar top covers a stand up comedian. Who has had his own comedy. Central half hour of here don't Coenen and was the CO host of you up with Nikki. Glaser now Thomas. His own podcast. Stand up a top two car. Listen each Thursday as Tom replays reviews and re appreciates the best jokes in the comedy central cattle. Lots of PODCASTS. And Talk About. Stand up comedy but on this one. Tom Can actually play. Stand up comedy. Enjoy everything from classic. 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And what the era of big money conference TV networks means for schools like Boise State. So if you share our point of view that college has no offseason. Subscribe to the College Football Daily now on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcast throughout this conversation. I'm not sure if I asked you guys who your favorite is so it seems like Lebanon Belfer Heath Ben. Who's your favorite look rakings? I I guess I have. I have four net girly and Johnson right ahead of bell and they're all back to back to back and they're lower than you'd expect most rankings. Are they all behind all the rookies? They're all behind both Taylor and Edwards Hilar- not all rookies. Where's yours is right in that range? Whereas Melvin Gordon for you. He's behind bell right behind honor and and then Chris Carson and then James Connor who haven't adjusted since the news. I probably move connor up ahead of a lot of these guys. I think conners my favorite also my favorite. Why isn't Chris Carson? Everyone's favorite I know we haven't talked about him. But why is it? Chris Carson easily ahead of this group is for me I think if he's at training camp when training camp opens he should be ranked the top twelve or anywhere format regardless irregardless. Yeah for regardless of format. By the way Dave headed leave During the commercial break. So you don't do you hate Chris Carson as much as you the rest of these guys a little bit. Yeah I mean he doesn't catch passes your your banking on a pretty fragile profile. In my opinion those about a bad number thirty seven is not a good number. It's not bad. But he also had two hundred seventy eight Russia's last year you got a ton of touches last year but right before Penny. Tors ACL penny had taken over like half the backfield. Then Paint Coal Rashad Penny thing as been going on for too long and for two years. He's not as good as Chris Carson. But he noted in the two games before tours. I Love Fan. These are by types of arguments. I love it. He ran fourteen times for one hundred twenty nine yards. Td in Carson only got this was as carson was fumbling all over and then the next week he ran fifteen times for seventy four yards on td. Carson got twenty three carries in that game and went for hundreds and td himself but penny also caught four balls for thirty three yards in that game in ntd's over one hundred yards both games right before he tears his acl and more importantly snapped shares carson shares prior to that were typically the week before was ninety six percent typically in the eighties. He went down to fifty one and fifty two percent and then he shot back up to eighty three percent after a painting turns. Acl He plays seventy six percent. The next week So to me I'm I'm more concerned. That Carson gives the same dominant share of the backfield that he had four the majority of last year. And then again right after paying towards ACO. I just don't think that's what Seattle should be doing. I guess maybe I have this thing. Where like two years in a row now I've projected Rishaad penny to be the pass catching back and because I thought he would be a better pass catcher. He has one game in two years with more than three targets like they throw the ball to Chris Carson a lot more than they throw it to him yeah they use the Carson on passing downs. A decent amount more than I think they should. I mean this might be me projecting what I think. A-team should do as opposed to what they tell us. They want to do but he's also a former seventh round pick. I just he that special I know. Is There Kinda guy but I just? I don't know man I don't see The huge reception outside like I said yes. He had thirty seven last year. But it's still not amazing and I I don't see him being able to maintain the two hundred and fifty plus Kerry Upside necessarily all right so let. Let's wrap up this discussion because I know Ben does like this group of running backs for the most part. He's do you like this group of running backs not in Class Carson. I the one thing. That's just a little bit like I think been doesn't like them because of what they represent and I think that is a point and drafts where they can represent value. I really kind of getting a said fifth round for David Montgomery I. I think we're finding them in the sixth and I'm getting pretty excited about him because there's really. There's no reason to have decided that David Montgomery bad with as bad as that offense was last year and he's probably going to get close to three hundred touches so I like him. I like Levy on for what he's going to cost. Yeah I guess I like this group of Beck's so I will. I will sign off on David Montgomery in the six round for sure. Yeah what if it's the fifth round though what if it's a top fifty five pick? I take a receiver. The WHO do not have these issues that okay but I guess the problem is like. What do you do at running back? Do you have to make sure you have two good ones in the first two rounds so you don't have to choose from this group. It'd be helpful to get at least one. In the first couple of rounds I don't think you have to but I think yes like I think the dominant strategy this year should be to take at least one running back in the first round. If you're in the back half the frustration you don't take on the front you take one in the early second but you can get by with running back to With with a late around running back running back to be dominant everywhere else and you worked the waiver wire you have to. I hear Ya. I'M GONNA I want to go through every single one of these running backs and up how we feel but first here we go. Heath you'RE GONNA move Lebanon Bell. Down from the third round to the tenth round. Levian Bell is twenty eight years old as we as I've said every show for the last two weeks he did not have a twenty yard run all last season. He is now gone two full seasons without having a thirty yard run. That's nearly six hundred carries without an only three of them more than twenty yards. None of them were than thirty yards over his last two seasons and he that's obviously sat out urine between they had he was on pace for two hundred sixty one carries last year. That was with basically nobody else getting any work. They bring in frank or who might get some goal line work and might get one hundred twenty eight hundred and thirty carries because Adam gays likes him level might have a one hundred and eighty carries. He's not good anymore and he has like total bust. Should barely be rostered. Downside moving down yeah. Some of those things are true. I didn't I don't buy totally into the Frank Gore's going to get forty percent of the carries it could happen and they did give like a hundred carries to blow palatine. Gummy and Josh Adams last year. But that's like below Powell got like half of his carries the one game bell missed Noah carries and they threw it another thirty times to those backs including seventy eight to Lebanon Bell. There's nothing Adam Guy. Gays likes more then a three yard drop in a four yard pass so I think the past volumes. They're like there's concerns I the the factoid you had about him being the first running back in the last hundred years to get that many catches and not finish as a certain thing. Top that just says like he's probably going to finish the top twelve back next year if we get seventy catches again. It's what I think. You're probably right. Sixty four catches which he's been on pace for in four five straight seasons definitely the right way to understand that story from my perspective too. It's crazy 'cause I don't like Levy Bell but if you get sixty four catches it's really hard to to get that many catches and not be a top twelve running back and you've you've gotta be someone who gets like less than one hundred carries you've got to be a specialist and he's not going to be that so that's I think the best thing it can happen for the jets Adam. Gays does not want Levy on bail. I don't think but I also don't think that he just burns money. He loves trading players especially when they are producing. The best thing they could have happen is levy on. Bell gets off to a start the first three or four weeks and looks like levy on again and they're able to trade him for bag. Football's our next player. Sum Up your feelings on James. Connor intrigued confused. Yeah I again. We cannot lose sight in two thousand eighteen. He was a top eight running back. He scored double digit rushing touchdowns which Levy on bell has never done which was really weird and he caught fifty five passes thirteen games and I maintain he is not as good as Delvin Cook but I would maintain that he has just as good a chance of being on a good offense. He has less injury risk in my opinion but not more the delvin Cook And he's probably going to go four rounds later sum up your feelings on Todd. Gurley doubtful confused. Yeah I mean I I I say doubtful. I think he's like around twentieth. My running back rankings. I wouldn't totally avoided us there in the fourth round but let her know. I WanNa healthy is never going to know. Yeah do you think he could still be like two years ago? The previous two years before his injury in two thousand eighteen he was the best running back. Football didn't get back to being a great player because last year he just wasn't basically I say no when it comes to those types of players. I don't chase pass production and especially when you have to pay an extra around because he had such a high ceiling years ago and he was a different player. Okay sum up your thoughts on Melvin Gordon Same I'm just out on. Why 'cause Lindsey and about offense I just don't think they're going to be an offense that can generate even necessarily one good running back line Like stat line but then you have two guys. That are playing. I mean there's some backyards that could generate two and chargers. Were one of them. I don't think the Broncos are going to be that didn't they though I mean in two thousand Eighteen Bill Lindsay at one hundred ninety two carries and Royce Friedman at one hundred and thirty in two thousand nineteen Lindsey at two hundred and twenty four carries and Freeman. Had One hundred and thirty two. So I mean if I think Royce Freeman. Basically has to go away. But we saw last year. Philip Lindsey Two hundred twenty four carries worst Freeman one hundred and thirty two. Why can't that be Melvin? Gordon Lindsay. Is that have Lindsey and Freeman to twenty if he cash fifty passes because Gordon is basically always around fifty fifty to two hundred seventy touches. Melvin Gordon Yakima like him. I said he could get to twenty. I've only got protect for two hundred. I like this is I think the you're making an kind of an upside case right now. Right I like Bob and Gordon full disclosure. Yes at this upside case. Two Hundred Seventy touches bad to twenty carries and fifty catches. Still isn't a massive win. It GETS BACK TO THAT SMALL WIN. Big Loss type thing. He's not the right type of bet for means there's more risk than there is upside Okay and some of your feelings on David Johnson. Sad which they so much better for so many years. I'm hopeful that it means that. They're the reason that they have to good pass catching backs and no good. Running backs is because they're going to let Shawn Watson throw five hundred seventy five passes for the first time. Well I just find it so strange that four straight seasons Lamar Miller Lamar Miller Lamar Miller Carlos Hyde. None of them had more than six total touchdowns none of them had more than eight carries inside the five yard line. That's just not a big number. It's weird the way they've used their running backs. And maybe liked Hopkins. Things change now yet. No when you think about that. Set aside the running backs. Think about the Shawn Watson like they like to use his mobility in the Red Zone. They absolutely do. And that's the exact reason for that. They he breaks the pocket. We've seen him throw even short touchdowns on the run and also obviously run for touchdowns. Some of your feelings on David Montgomery a little excited. I don't know if I'm excited because I don't think Going anywhere so I don't think he can really have that big of a receiving role but I'm excited for this offense a little bit. I like the whole offseason. Talk has been that they made a mistake. Trading a fourth round pick for player. Nick foles the Jaguars couldn't wait to get out of that contract. But at because of the quarterbacks that were then available later in in free agency but I I read that a little bit like they wanted him specifically and they wanted him specifically because Nagy's worked with him because bill lasers worked with them and because Di Filippo's worked with them in multiple places like I think. Nick foles is going to be their starting quarterback and I think he has a potential to be better for this offense and then potentially better for David Montgomery as the whole offense gets better. Okay and some up your thoughts on Leonard Fournette. Completely befuddled play. I think he could legitimately be a top five running back this year and I think he could get cut in training camp and like nobody could sign him before we went. That's I mean I agree. I don't think he's gotTA catch. I don't think he's GonNa see near the targets he saw last year. I think that's an important point. Like the first couple of years has receiving was way lower than the hundred targets. He saw last year and everything they've said to us this year. Drafting Chenault. Who's short area player in can move into the Backfield Bringing in Chris Thompson there and trying to trade for net like they. They're not gonNA give him a hundred targets again and you can't look at twenty nine thousand target right as anything close to a barometer for what we'll see in two thousand twenty one of the stats that I'm most confident will be nowhere near last year. Could still flirt with three hundred touches though for net was thirteenth. Pbr seven and this you know. These are interesting players. Because like you just look at David Montgomery about Jordan Howard Jordan Howard was In two thousand seventeen the number nine running back non-pwi PR number fourteen NPR. In Two thousand eighteen he was twentieth in both formats. And was that good. I don't know twentieth and both formats for a guy who had two hundred and fifty carries played. Every game not really been hates that guy. I hate that guy to that guy. Oh Man but you know it's counts points points points. So what is that guy in the ninth or Tenth Rounds? A pretty good deal sure. Yeah but in the fifth or sixth round. I'd say no then like that's the answer to the question. Who am I drafted running back to? If I do what I was describing earlier fine take him in the Nitra. Yeah I think for me anybody that I'm taking the top with a pick in the first five rounds hopefully unless I'm playing a non. Ppo League gotta you gotTa have some role in the passing game. Right I mean how could they have? Montgomery a huge year would be. I think we really tough. I just don't think he's GonNa catch a lot of passes here twenty-five last year he's going to necessarily more than that. I think he could catch is I think he could catch thirty You could catch like he could have Chris Carson type year is what you look for all right. Well good job guys. Thank you very much appreciate that later in the week. We're talking to your two receivers playing poker next week on twitch for he forbade for Dave. I'm Adam Patio. Ben Drag obeyed the Wednesday neck show today.

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Titans-Broncos, Steelers-Giants Recaps: Gostkowski melts down then wins it, Big Ben returns (Football 9/15)

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Titans-Broncos, Steelers-Giants Recaps: Gostkowski melts down then wins it, Big Ben returns (Football 9/15)

"What's everybody welcome to fix podcast is forced to NFL Five Jess. I rehearsed and I've faking enthusiasm at one, forty, five in the morning could bring you a recap of the to. Monday night football games right? CBS Sports is daily NFL. PODCAST recaps all the Primetime Games and they happen it just. So happens that in week one, every single year they jammed to. Monday night games in there it's exciting because it's week one. It seems like a great idea. It's a Lotta Fun when you're not married with kids and then later on in life, it becomes pretty annoying because you're one forty-five podcasting with John Breach Remind Wilson. I mean when we started doing this I think the first time they ever did to Monday night game Fan House and like live blog both of them Ryan, and now it's like. like are you kidding me? Don't wrong I. Love the I love doing this podcast and we have. In so late late game always sucks I used to make the schedule back in the day and you would always forget there was a ten pm game on Monday night week one and I would ask you sort of vaguely could work, and then you would find out at nine thirty. After the first game that you are working. And she would always get the regular Europe to you to scatter brained. You remember. So that was the car for me but yeah, Hey, it's football is back playing so. Let me be clear breach. I would take any football like that's the game, the titans and broncos game, which we'll talk about, and then we'll talk about the steelers and giants game and then. Find a little quick interview going to talk to Chris and Kyle Long Kyle's our co worker now. CBS. and Chris Friend of the pilots been on before they zoom with them earlier. It's like a seven or eight minute interview and you can see the background actually talked about the Miller Cantina. That's an HD antenna attached to a beer. Can a Miller lite beer can can you believe? Wait that you buy that or you macgyver over there and you. Can. You can buy. It has like a little. Okay. I knew there was no way you had the wherewithal. goalpost beer can into an HD antenna is an antenna that is shaped like a football groping. Watch on youtubecom setting. Miller lite beer can and then it has a little plug that goes on here and as I told, Chris Kyle, I tried to convince my wife to put it next. AK. To put in extra food dogs are mantle and she told to get. I will say this I'm sure that thing works really well that she antenna shaped like a goalpost does it does not working Stephen Gostkowski south I've heard. Does Not Stephen S. cousy cannot find the center of those. So, let's talk about that. Titans. broncos game. Tougher tough tougher. Hashtag breach brand. Because you don't what you don't want is a kicker from Nashville. WHO PLAYS FROM THE TITANS Lincoln blinken. Whatever else you might call kicks he missed three straight field goals in Denver breach and touted off with an extra point before coming back to make the game winning field goal as the titans topple the broncos sixteen fourteen, which by the way. I believe the exact same score as last year's home opener for the broncos a crippling loss to the bears sixteen fourteen here before talks can you just? Dunkel me for the broncos I'll. I want you to preemptively play the Kevin Harlan field goes down because that spitting as ever. Okay. So this is not I don't this is I think have it this is not Gostkowski missing him, but it's just you. Is that. Dallas. Pulled the hamstring. Complete. Gostkowski not grabbed his leg at some point. I would see on Monday I probably did. Four. Or five radio interviews you talking about week one of the NFL season and I most of the I I did it was like Adam Gold? Or Darren Smith. they actually listen to podcasts. There's one hundred twenty minutes. Can you sort of walk us through which? Actually, twenty of it is just me playing this Kevin Harlan call. A book missing, the game. Tying goal for the biggest at any rate breach. Stephen Caskey was terrible eventually came back and hit the game winner. Do. You want to defend a kicker here. and. Do. You have any anticipation Stephen Gostkowski will be in the hall of fame one day. Yeah they kept mentioning that. Say The craziest part to put this entire night in perspective is Stephen Gostkowski went into this game is the fifth most accurate kicker in NFL history and he was so bad by the time the game was over he had fallen down to be the eight most accurate kicker in NFL history. He's been playing for fourteen years in a fall. Three spots in one game is absolutely insane and this it was so long I actually forgot that it was the first game we others podcast for a second I was like we talked about titans broncos what else went on. Steel giants too. But here, this was if you're the titans, look you add the worst kicker now. What are we the worst kicking experience NFL seen in thirty years? Last year I think they went eight of eighteen and first team since one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five, eighty, six to make less than fifty percent of their field goals in a season. You just don't see that anymore. So you know, Mike. We got Stephen. Gostkowski. All my problems are solved. So what happens? Gostkowski walks out there. I. I feel will temp. It came in the first quarter boom he misses. You know what? He hasn't kicked in a year. He signed the off season didn't get a ton of training camp. You don't think anything of it. It was from forty seven yards. It's not a Gimme. All right. So you send them out or a second field goal this time it's just before half-time. You're thinking. We'll take a ten seven, lead the half or good boom boggles tip. He missed his again. Now if you're able, you're right crapping your pants what is going on here? What's what's with? Me Cares what I'm doing and then we get to the second half in God's galaxy missing another field. Well, he's running on twitter people were thinking the Brench your tickets from Denver to Mars things was completely out of hand. and. Then Gostkowski misses an extra point and at this point he's walking over to the sideline he takes off his shoe and he's looking at it. In his shoes. I know what was going I didn't know if he was going to start cheating barefoot broncos used to have a kicker who kicked barefoot rich Karlis Gas gas he was playing mind games with himself and so here's what I would ask you guys. Since you aren't the kicking girls Shirley can answer this question on the titans final, drive their trailing fourteen to thirteen. Take over with three Oh five left your mic free in your head. How close are you thinking? You have to get to even think about attempting a field goal? In the End. Zone. And then you go for the two point conversion absolutely and then you send you know once you Gostkowski on his way. But was so bad that I didn't hear him answer the question but I'm going to assume that he did acknowledges Vic Fangio the Broncos head coach didn't call any time outs as rebel in the titans we're going to the end zone. I mean, I, joked, it was like a galaxy brain move but I think he was doing it. He was trying he's like look if you guys don't play for field goal I'm all at that. Do feel go all day because I don't think he's going to be able to put it through the uprights he might. He might slip on the way to the ball panicked i. mean it was tremendous. Tremendous response by Gostkowski step up berry that that thing because if you're in that spot. In the question. slacks you've tried to ice him. Why was you? Not? Why would you not bang a time out there Fangio I think about that great call what is? According to. According to Lindsay Jones Fangio didn't use his timeouts because he said, he didn't want to extend their drive and that the running back went out of bounce. So That's before the not he was trying to. He's trying to get them to play for going hurt they would miss. Yeah but that's bad. I mean look it's mad number levels. Questions well, but I mean because you left drew lock with thirty seconds maybe less than that fifteen seconds or something. Seventeen seconds. Yeah. Come on you. Seventeen seconds after the SQUIB kick wasn't touched on good job by them and terrible SQUIB. Kick to try and get in Brandon McManus field goal range. That's it's it's bad coaching I. think that. They have bad coaching that wasn't their only clock management issue. They were up fourteen to thirteen. They got the ball with four zero six left in the game. Right US. Well, four, zero six would you want to do is try to move it also maybe try and run out some clock they we ran off fifty one seconds the titans a single time out, and they got the ball back with three five with with all their timeouts and I do understand that. Hey, look. We want Gostkowski Gostkowski out there kicking the field. Well, that's why they didn't use the time up. You do get to a point where you have to say all right. If they get inside this yard line, he's an NFL kicker. Even if he's missed three, it's inside thirty five yards he's probably listening. In kicker, yes, he's Stephen Gostkowski by the way will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be in the hall of fame. There are four kickers in the hall of fame currently Justin Taco probably be five one day maybe region I, have hung out with Orlando should shelter or guy. After his induction. Van Terry will get in. Get it. So it'd be. Yeah, right. But Gus cousy is not relevant anyway now. You can't. You have to know of your Vic Fangio that it is. Paramount to leave as much time as possible to try and go back the other way and score I. This is what frustrates me to no end like why? You had all this time. And Kobe, times think about this stuff to get all the stats together I. Don't know why you I I mean, we read the quote from Lindsey Jones, but that does not make any sense I've read. So let me ask you quickly we know that hip surgery was something to Stephen in the off season was that. If. You're going to blame it on something as a partly that is that plus the mental is it. Some combination one thing the other I think it's completely hip surgery I think that's why the Patriots got rid of them I think that's why he was out as a free agent. So long is because your hips are that's a key part of kicking and so he was waiting probably. So he was absolutely sure that he was one hundred percent healed before he felt comfortable even trying out with the team and he bought A. House in Nashville early July. So I think he felt that if he was going to kick this year, it was probably going to be with the titans and then remember he didn't sign so a little bit later. So it's not like he hadn't kicked in a while because he'd been rehabbing all. He's probably only got three weeks of kicking under his belt and you know coming off a big season operation off-season recovery like he did. I think it's a legitimate excuse but and since the titans won, it doesn't matter. Now's long as he gets his act I. Do not think he will be released. Times would have lost. Last when he's gone? He misses the last one but. Out there on the market that they could actually replace him with. The Titans had eight field goals last year. Logos in. The browns just cut Austin Britain's signed cody Parkey. So how bad things are out there? Just, got grab like a random. That's the titans. He could cost trip to the playoffs last year. WHO's your number one available kicking creation chime. Awesome cyber. There you go. To number at that point, you would probably calling up like Adam venit. Terry. Wow. That's a steep drop. If you don't mind the DUI charge you call up. Roses he had a good year with the giants and I think two, thousand eighteen then struggled in two, thousand nineteen. You mentioned the Dui I don't know the specifics are seriously was, but he's obviously not great but Isaiah. Wilson? Dare. First. Round pick. Also had a DUI. Yeah, and he wasn't out there on the field clearly, the run game wasn't as good as you thought, felt like they're going to bust through late with Derrick Henry. By the way Derrick Henry not one of the top fancy over performance in this Game Ryan Tannehill Twenty, two points July fourteen fourteen, the Braga actually covered plus three. But this is the this is one of the few games this week where CLV closing line value mattered because it opened as broncos minus one and minus two. If you bet the titans plus the points, you clearly one if you came back and got the broncos plus three, you also want so not great for Vegas in that particular regard because you could've hit both of those if you're force it up to the under forty one and a half obviously hit this game was. Never had a chance of going over although the broncos did have a possession on fourth and one of the goal they for it. They didn't get it. They kept running. Jeffrey. Simmons for whatever reason stopped doing that that dude who's a man child on the interior and he has off field issues at Mississippi state which but. Before that high school. Field issues night. So sorry he he's been ballots model sense. Excuse me my apologies Jeffrey seven to he fell on the draft because he tore his acl. In. Like February favorite. Yeah and they still draft. Played as a rookie, he is a man I mean he he took. Melvin Gordon. Or is it Philip Lindsay? You one on picked him. Up. At Scoop Slam. Philip Yeah. Yeah. And then maybe why got hurt? Drew Lock. Ryan Tannehill. I don't know that you came away from this I. Think he came up with this game right I kinda like what drew lock Scott but I don't know that they had the upside to make a deep playoff run or anything and I think. They'll be right in the most efficient quarterback in football either those things work out. Right I think drew lock is the guy after washing five games. Last season. This is what you wanted to see if you were squinting now the editor is completely open and you're like, okay some of this stuff doesn't look great. He overthrew some deep balls that could have been touchdowns, Jerry? Judy dropped a couple passes. But I like what I see he's wearing out. No Fan I I think that's the way you want to go as a young a quarterback have someone you can rely on and fan looks a hundred percent better than they did last year, which is understandable. He's in year two now Melvin Gordon that stupid fumble early on but he put up some CRT score a touchdown late I think there's a lot of like I sort of upset that they're right tackle opted out. upset for the state of the dolphins blind because the right tackle struggled and obviously von Miller getting hurt because I think this whole thing can be completely different that said you can make an argument for the broncos shooting should have won that game but also you could just say, well, Gostkowski Fifteenth Field Goal so the types of one. Be Yeah Week One Expectations in terms of everyone not being completely. Teams being rusty but I think hill flaccid times I think drew luck look good. But I'm still not all in Andrew Lock being. The savior were sort of hoping for. Yeah I do absolutely agree with that I think that if I'm the broncos like he kind of said if you ever optimistic after the way, he finished the twenty, thousand, nine, hundred and season he went four and one. So in that sense, you saw a quarterback who didn't regress he looked decent in this game but on the Broncos, I probably would've wanted him to play a little bit better. You mentioned the overthrows, but he was also going up against a pretty decimated titan. Secondary Dorie Jackson was on injured reserve Jonathan Joseph Got Injured in the game, and he was knocked out shot Evans got ejected. From the game for Punching Jake but not for punching for per for. Punching. Jake. PUTT. PUTT in the bud. Yes he got dejected. So you're titans your down three guys in your secondary drew walk couldn't take advantage of that. So I think that breach they had to rookies playing cornerback one was a an underactive creation, right? So in that sense I think I would have liked to have seen a little bit more from drew, and then you look at another edition Melvin Gordon Fifteen, Kerry seventy, eight yards, which is really good. But he also had a huge gas because he lost a fumble in the first half in broncos territory in that wed to a titans I think scoring drive the score a touchdown for twenty three yards. Three yards yeah. Did Not kick a field goal. Did Not end with the Gostkowski missed. So that was a huge turn of events right there because the Broncos were up seven to nothing. In all the sudden it's tight game because Melvin, Gordon's humble. So there's definitely some concerning things. I'm not sure you know drew against the steelers next week I'll be a little bit worried about that. If I'm a broncos fan because he didn't do more against Tennessee, but he wasn't bad by any means at all. And like you said, he got bird by to Jerry Judy drops. They're. The play calling I don't think for the broncos was fantastic I. Thought I thought lock can spin it. I have concerns about it they're playing. Defense, the steelers he's probably in trouble but I think he is he is fun to watch when he gets out of pocket and just ripped one. But. You don't need to be run out of pocket when there's no reason to the pocket and then just make a stupid throw and the broncos are locked in. Sorry Nice. Attended bag. Really. Like locked in to their quarterback of the future I do our. What does that mean? He's a second round pick in his second year with six starts. He's not listen man John Elway by the way whoever does the graphics I love you at ESPN the big graphic was insane John. elway graphic was even crazier. It looks like big. Tom Callahan. But ELWAY has to hit on this quarterback. He's over twelve. So I think he's sort of all in Andrew Lock at least for a couple of months. Ryan Tannehill through forty three passes that ain't gonNA work. Forty, three passes the titans are probably in Trouble Jake Conquest Gone Isaiah. Wilson. Didn't play because got in trouble so you talked about the line that being. What we're used to seeing. Blown them out of the water. The broncos defense isn't bad by Millard being not being there's terrible. In the second and third and fourth quarters is back to back to back drives. The Bronco the Titans had twelve place, seventy, three yard drive a fourteen play forty or drive, which is weird penalty yards and fifteen play sixty, seven yard drive. They came away with six points on those three drives even though they got into scoring range obviously on all three drive to missed field goals and a touchdown. It they I mean, you run that many plays with Derrick Henry on your in your in your backfield and you should be smashing somebody. They gave shouldn't have been that close. Yeah. But again, it's week one. I'm willing to cut both teams some slack what I'm not willing to cut slack on is the time management into that game that there's no warm to that. You should know how to do it from Jump Street I would say, no offense five catches eighty, one yard touchdown like in the first quarter basically. Yeah and then they didn't go back to him at all do was making place reduce it was it was nice to see because last year you can see him struggling. Overly with any flashlight and just like Sunday with Detroit Hodkinson, you can feel it's GonNa be a big year for him to shirk. Those guys can end up being awesome Loxley twenty, two or three. If you pass this two, hundred, sixteen yard and one touchdown quarterback rating Melvin Gordon Fifteen carry seventy, a touchdown Philip Lindsay injured did not return was a lot of these runningback situations whether it's you know with. Your. Indianapolis more Mac, and John Taylor could step in. This could be a situation where you faded Melva Gordon Fantasy. You're probably Kinda host riotinto for those wondering. About the Products Ryan? Tannehill fourteen rushing yards. Catholic me by half or just missed by half what you got a Corey Davidson Adam freeze terrible calls by me. Lots of the year. I said before the game with. Sally and those did not hit but Jerry Judy easy over. Should've been way more judy's a nice little. season-long because he was targeted eight times just to horrific drops by judy and Derek Thirty one carries hundred sixteen years. I love the Broncos defense played pretty well. The BRONCOS, if they hadn't lost von Miller and then they lost. And Bradley chose comeback from injury like they have achieved a really good defense and I just think. Planning out of all. Sudden, hurt, them. They. Probably win this game with of courtroom Sutton thought they should have won the game anyway they had a chance to win the game. You feel good that literally forgot how to kick field goals. I which is a problem, and I, don't know that they win a game I. think if if everybody has everyone the files four, this game is probably like thirty to twenty seven instead of sixteen fourteen. Times and Ruben up and down the field is just you know Stephen Gostkowski doing things that kicker shouldn't do. Here here's a great quote on why he removed shoe. He said quote I would've taken my pants off to make that last kick. But Luckily Ryan he did not have to take his pants off to make that kick. Label is asked about a house-key making it like giving him a shot at the final. He said I kind of know. It's like it's been read sometimes I relax I'm going to bet black this time doesn't work that way. Unless you're west of snipes it's called the Gambler's fallacy like you like. Go ahead, the coin toss has come up heads twelve times. The roads tells taste. No Mike Gabel seems like the type of guy when you explain to him with gamblers gambler's fallacy is he just tells the show up and punches you in the face. Very rebel might be number one on. Coach. I want to have a beer with. Number one for me is bill bell because he won't talk and I will be quite happy to sit there silently and enjoy my beer number one for me Sean McVeigh, not old enough to drink. So I would get two years. I should change Sean Payton's number one plus why he'd cope that. Getting it. You do he doesn't. Brinson use got duck down by Dr. You have to worry about getting it from him. Twenty six, giant sixteen, a game that was. I guess closer. Than the score indicates steelers cover the six cover. The second half spread the under hit me that get these. I will say this I am very impressed that the worst place the team predicted the finished last in the AFC north somehow eat victory against the mighty giants. That's funny sarcasm but you were sweating this game fat. Big Ben looks like crap early on for he looked like crap or a quarter and a half and then. Any fainted injury and he got better all of a sudden. It felt like two thousand eleven everything was back to normal. bid was atop top fancy quarterback twenty, seven points dairy slate a great gay twenty, two points just twenty-one Juju. Smith Schuster two touchdowns Kansas eighteen fantasy points. touchdowns had all of last season. Three. ooh So apparently, the quarterbacks make a difference for him for sure. So. Bad. Early on and got better. I said every year I say that the steelers terrible week one in. Stanford talking to a couple giants fans Robin. Scott and I said. And they felt like the steelers are probably win the game but I said that you just never know Rothlisberger. One arm last year and they always play sloppy and the very first possession for the steelers. The ball hits the Anti. Johnson in the face that game for D. Onto John's but they kept coming back to them. Yeah, I mean second years knowing to watch. But why do you started sluggishly and Bill Belichick teams never started slow So you're not concerned at all about the steelers offense. No I think Rothlisberger is exactly who we thought. He was just a matter of his throw picks. But I I was saying sorta joking before breached came on while he's finishing up his writing duties of all the old timers who are washed up. Rothlisberger Big Ben Fill rivers. I think Rosberg or had the best the best. Eh. This defense. Stats wise. In terms of the way, he played Big Fish Twenty one to thirty two for two to twenty nine yards and three touchdowns. Yes. The best stats and. He didn't play that well compared to those old timers. His dog do steak guys are running wide open was pressure on him. What does Philip rivers excuse? The Jaguars. I'm sorry you might not with. Kevin. O.. Smelled nineteen carries one hundred thirteen yards does James Cotter who injured have a job? He comes back from the injury. They said, it's a mild ankle injury but when Benny style payment of the series. Yeah he's lost weight. He's little fat last year he just like ran good until you got it. Yeah. He's so he seemed a little more patient. My favorite player. Gets my favorite player wasn't the steelers. Yeah Chase I was I thought chase now. Yeah I even talking about but I love that I call them less. Sort of. He does something wrong why? Talk more. Less. Basis basis in Primis. Oh. Oh, I thought I. I didn't get what your job was there. No but anyway, I I wasn't crazy traffic just because that's the they're like A. Wife seamers is worth the second rounder. Apparently the draft analyst those much the steelers when it comes to taking wide receivers you don't. Really good attracting wide receivers busted. I mean now I mean look I'll say this if big minutes healthy been by last-place prediction is terrible because the steelers have. been how the last year and they went eight and eight it's still terrible whatever the. Offense. They are kind of loaded this like I know if bitty styles can be good or not in some offensive line concerned. But JUJU Deontay Klay Poll James Washington also caught a touchdown Ibrox wasn't really much of a factor. that. I mean, that's a good group of receivers like label had a crazy toe tap on the sidelines. And he allows Juju to move more into the slot because he's a bigger outside receiver, which is where Juju thrives just what you WanNa do, which is probably why they drafted in the I was. I will say that I thought this game was a lot closer. Than the score indicated because obviously twenty six, ten at one point and it was over. It was over early. But I think it ended on the giants I drive of the second half when they went nineteen plays, eighty seven yards, they drive all the way down the Pittsburgh's four yard line, and then I don't even know what Daniel Jones was trying to do but but the pretty was in his face. All of sudden throws a pickup, the goal line rumors open running towards the back center portion of the Inza and I think he. Thought, he could just get up in the air and if he got it far enough, you would catch it but you just can't do that. But he would. He would have a free touchdown if he had gotten off and I think that's sort of the probably Dino Jones you might try too hard, which is not something you would think Jones do but he's well breaches dried. He had a ton of great throws a nicer. Great. Moments all night. But that last step play in outbreaks guitar this he waited like a second half to long and. His arm, the ball went up and was caught by defensive Lineman can't came hayward at the goal line. We're care. Hey, catches it. There's like five steelers directly behind came here where there's nowhere. But if you if you watch the play back to the right of where hayward was throwing earlier I, understand that why are you wait so long? Even was clearing I. think he saw Ingram clearing was trying to get it back there. You can't make the past you can't into pass. You back or keep Iran and get out of and get closer to the end zone yeah. Absolutely. The thing is if the giants score there, there are seventeen to sixteen in the third quarter with three minutes left in the third quarter and this is a completely different game so. They did move the ball in the defense as good as defense is offense obviously came up with a bunch of big plays because that's what good defenses do. So did you guys feel like this was more of a? Maybe the giants are good or the steelers are slipped a little rusty because there hasn't played in years coming off elbow surgery in the defense had to carry the day and they were just. Keep the team in the game till Rothlisberger actually. Could throw pass. I was impressed with how well the giants play and I thought Dale Jones, look look pretty good except for those moments and that's the thing we talked about this. We were texting each other along with. He, who shall not be named but. Make a bunch of great throws. But if you throw to insanely idiotic picks one where we're TJ. Highs. Behind the off tackle in jobs like you said service, he scares. Off A defensive player of the year he he's he could win that. was I mean, he made it look easy, and then of course, the arm Punto Cam Hayward does our backbreaking mistakes but he made a ton of get throws Daniel Jones. Did I think the biggest takeaway for me outside of the self you talked about ready that? saquon Barkley could do absolutely nothing. I. I attributed mortar the steelers. Now. The giants offensive line is dog Poo. And I'd already regret taking Barkley over Kamara in Zeke Elliott. inclined. Engine makes. Out of Hey breach. How would you grade Jason Garrett's first day back office coordinator. I would say it started off a little bit. Slowly I was thinking Oh my God this is a disaster they need to fire him right now and then it got better because that first year he's they punted the second series was the steelers muffing upon the giants recovering at the three yard line three yards for a touchdown they couldn't even do that and I'm just like Joe, judge you had a fire Jason Garrett and right now he's blown it too easy options series. They couldn't do anything third offensive series they go three now and not only that they went three yards they went backwards. And I Jason Garrett on what are you doing up to that, and then I feel like after his first three possessions everyone on the giant sideline settled in in their offense looked a lot better for the rest of the game. So maybe it was a thing of Gareth getting comfortable with Daniel Jones can and can't do or Trying to get comfortable with what the entire offense can and can't do but I do feel like they looked a lot better and far saquon Barkley goes it was funny because I think we had a sent you as one of the quotes from TJ Watt and he said we just wanted to smash the Ron First and foremost and it seemed like it was just whoever got there first so it sounds like the whole entire game plan was let's Boxing Stop. Saquon and if Dale Jones Beats, Jail Jones be us which kind of makes you view Dale Jones performance and a slightly different ones. Well. That's the thing. So when you play a spirit Garrett run team the superstar running back you know what? He's GonNa do. He's going to try to the ball running back. Fifteen carries for six yards for saquon Barkley. That is awful. They should have utilized them like get up tempo spreaded out, get quick headers, do some crossers across the mid like they get the steelers out of out of place defensively and they didn't do that. They sort of tried to lean into who they WANNA be, and they don't have the personnel fort primarily because they don't have the offensive line of Garrett had. Right. I'd. Throw the ball forty one times. That's a problem. All right let's rank them real quick though last year's. Joe Joe Johnson really good job of the here like team came out proprietor. You just do your job. It came out prepared. They took a delay of game on fourth and one on the first series. Not Prepared. They kicked a field goal on fourth and two from the two yard line under second series Tibo. And then there was the. Wrong word. Came out today they came out like. They felt like they're the defenders were actually flying all over the place impact. They did a good job defensively early along and they had like they didn't come out dad and flat like I thought they might breach continue. They looked better than giants and last year. What the the one play that I they talked about on TV. I Daniel. Jones. Went Back to pass I think it was down the ball three yard line and it looked like he had empty-handed fumble and the giants recovered in the end zone for a touchdown giants contagion. The giants can they didn't right because the head coach who has the red challenge for didn't throw it. All right. Let me let me ask you this. Let's Breach Brinton. She'll let me ask this question before you pose that stupid thing on Joe Judge. full-time. So all right ranked the quarterbacks you want. The person is probably pretty easy for draft class we have a collar Murray. Have Daniel Jones Dwayne. And drew drew lock one through four. How you rank in these guys worries one. Easy I think I'm taking Jane of Jones to really wait who was other options besides Jones askins Murray dwayne Edwin Haskins, drew lock in garments. You drafting list I just on like the first the first four guys. But we Gordon Gardiner in there issues up there. When he's Day, three guys my point but I mean the draft when they were drafted, we can have meant that's fine i. mean he's obviously playing well all right to Kylie's one and we'll in that. Job is number two peas said I think do Jones to I've been impressed by. Who are you taking? Number two breach A- Daniel Jones would only because I don't have I don't know enough about the other two hassans lock. There's not a big enough like I would consider drew walk but I don't know what he looks like over sixteen game season whereas I know that with Daniel Jones I feel like while they both both have good weapons around good young weapons or ascending and all of that. I feel like if you put drew lock on the giants that would be a problem. Now that's a good point I think you'd actually Sorta talk get Deena Jones and the Broncos I can invasion and here's something that I think the problem with through with Daniel Jones for outsiders looking at is that we see Eli Manning, but he is so much more athletic than he had a couple of runs on Monday night and I think he's going to do more of that yeah gail judges. Daniel Jones fun fact that interception that through the goal line that was the first red zone interception of his career. As bad. By the way, the Eagles defense is actually probably better than we gave them credit for they played pretty well, we were so worried about those eight sacks on the other side. They I saw somebody doing the numbers Gary. sleigh completely locked down Terry Maclaurin, and if you if you have a lockdown corner who says glory and that's a problem for hibs zero weapons laptop. Feeding Stephen Sam's. All right. So you taking haskins threes so you're saying. I don't know they're all really close. Kalamazoo cleared over one. Yes. But I was thinking like Haskins Lock, and Right Jones I think are all very close I? Like I think Jones to me is the pick if we included mentio- would you put him at number two? I think I, put them in a number. I'd put them number three maybe three. By the way Judy Fisher great recovery thinking. Is actually out of balance and. Yeah, you know the funny thing is on the replay watching he sorta gave up on the block that allowed the his blocker to strip sack. The running back. That's right. Great play by him. Yeah. And TJ Watson interception was incredibly athletic. You don't expect that from a defensive Lineman just pop up catch the ball with your hands you're reminded me of. The time that. Jj Watt. Sales that's not funny too far. I, thought we talk about. I thought you were going to play the he missed it. Okay we cover everything from those two games. This games are tough. Long. Thirty. In the morning, we wanted the book. The Brian. How. Bad is that? Banner Injury GonNa hurt the steelers. it's not great. They're they're they're they and they had to reshuffle their offensive line. Chuck's was in the battle with Zach, banner for that job. So I'm assuming he will step up. You know we'll see. and. I just want to say that we went through three hours of that giant steelers game and ESPN cameras did not show Freddie kitchens a single time I was highly disappointed. However show repeatedly. Cares. Were airs on the judge. The head coach on the place whereas whereas classmate my grandmother. Outta here retire break and we come back. You hear my conversation with the long brothers Chris Kyle along with Hawks and Eagles Patriots. After. The break support for this podcast comes from cdw on Dell. Technologies. cdw Gee we get migrating your agency to a hyper converged infrastructure is challenging. 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My colleague Kyle, long crispy podcast previously Kyle great job on tops with thanks. was. Fun. Do you. What is different talking about football in a suit then being the guy talked about getting be every Sunday. You guys are pretty good about being honest on social media and genuine life. Was it hard talking about like players know because you're you're out of the game so you can talk about whoever you want but like you don't WanNa be like you don't WanNa rip it's and there's so much stuff going on me that. It would be tough to just not who I'm negative things. There's a million stories and you could cover options and I think I'll stick with those. Until I run out then I'll start roasting nights. SMART SMART I like it. Hey. Chris you're tweeting about the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line and the Washington team. Defensive Line. Negative. Well. Yeah I mean wouldn't not a fun day the office. Carson. wentz. You got hit fourteen times sack eight times. That's just tough. Watching that game what how would you way out? What was more powerful with the? Was it the Washington's defensive line or was it just a turtle injury issues? The Philadelphia was dealing with and just sort of like thinking about it long term for the rest of the season how much that's going to matter for each team? Well coming into the game when I thought lane was healthy and you're already down to starting Lineman I remember sharing the buddy that they're one injury away from like it is hit the fan and. That injury because lanes not fully recovered from ankle surgery in August shocker. Kind of trying to get him to go and that sort of thing I think that spells disaster for them if they don't get this thing squared away soon. Six of those eight sacks were gimmes essentially, and that's why I really respect to Washington D.. Lot I think they play extremely hard in the some of the parts of really great. I don't see one player that scares the hell out of me yet that could be chase young. It could be carrigan but of course, they stuck them on the bench. All he has is ninety two career sacks. Of course, he can't try it out with the starting lineup because he's old. But I do think that eventually this is a really scary unit yesterday was more of a function of the not blocking people. Forget that. This is the strength of their team on both sides of the ball and has been for the last few years. Chris was there in Philly and we played them. They were physical grew up front defensively and a physical grew up offensively with the loss of Brandon Brooks Chris talking about lane. It is a perfect storm and obviously in that division, they have gone and found some real pass rushers. And their collecting them in Washington. I want to ask about the patriots as well because I think what we might be seeing this season is and we saw. Sort of has a little bit into what we saw Thursday night from Andy Reid because the chiefs. Rent a crap out the ball with Clyde over Hilar- Daryl. Williams do you think Kyle it's Sort of we could see a move towards teams being simplified power run aggressive in the trenches early on in the season, just to kind of minimize the amount of stakes that you could see on offense well, well, what you're seeing. In the playoffs, all the teams in the playoffs are teams that running the ball with great efficiency and with the physicality. San, Francisco's quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo had one of the highest quarterback perceptibly depletion percentage on explosive plays last year, and that's a by running the ball teams are seeing this and they're saying we have to run the ball because it opens up the back of yeah I think so I think maybe that's just a function of Clyde Edwards Hilar- being really good because he's the only guy so far this week over one hundred yards rushing. And I thought coming into Sunday you know talk about gambling and I do listen to pick six pot time. So thank you. Realize. It yeah. It. Loosely I didn't actually bet it like a Jackass, Oh God. Yeah. I. I couldn't get my New Orleans. On a on on yesterday I missed out on those two that I had his locks and then I had Josh Jacobs over what was it eighty eight yards or something because of what you're talking about I'm thinking and they did they kicked the Carolinas second level defenders asses, and they ran the ball. Fish. Kyle talked about. But if there's any team I thought was going to one hundred yards of a single Russia on Sunday. It was Josh Jacobson Raiders he didn't even get. The Century Mark. So I think. I think part of it Thursday was rust I. Don't think guys are real good at tackling in general like that first second third fourth preseason game as you get some rap so I think we are going to be. We've got great backs in league. Two of them just got paid whatever you think about paying running backs. This is a year where the the running back depth is is. It's easier. I mean look at Jake Dobbins in Baltimore I. Think he could rush for a thousand yards this year I mean I don't think that's such a hot take with mark being on the wrong side of thirty and looking at sheer situation that sort of thing. So you're talking about number two backs in a league that could go for thousand yards That's a good sign for guys like cod on the run and Dobbins preseason ninety eight to one to lead the League in Rushing I. Love It I. Hope Market was healthy and awesome. But if Janke Dobbins takes over dominates, I'll live job the Taylor probably do the same thing what. The one more consistent that will speaking of consistency and we'll get you out here on the actually. I gotTA. Do my due diligence here. As you can see in the back of here, I have a I have a Miller lite kin with a giant. Talk About Miller lite would be Kantano in Kyle's in. The back yard on land. Bills Nerd, and they have found a way to get even better they send us this Miller lite. Jan. 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06/17: Position Scarcity vs. Production; Heath's Sleepers (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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06/17: Position Scarcity vs. Production; Heath's Sleepers (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS I dot com. Time to dominate your fantasy league. You're some company. Cheney and early from sleepers thousand nineteen fantasy football season. A draft day dilemma at your Email, the busy on CBS. I dot com. What's up? Welcome to the show. It is Monday, June, seventeenth, I'm outta meser with heat Cummings. Dave, richard. Jimmy iceberg is out this week. Hey happy. Father's Day, guys. How was your weekend? Thank you. I had a great time with my kids, you know they're getting older now. And usually they don't want anything to do with dad. They're getting to the teenage years. But they did on Sunday. We out. We invented a new card game. We played monopoly. There was a lot of yelling, and then I was treated to fantastic gourmet dinner made by my wife and yeah. Just very satisfying day for dear old dad at the Richard apps, gray. I already know I talked to he thoroughly today. I know he had a good fathers day it was being Tammy. I got to do a fantasy baseball show with you. That's right. So what, what better gift could I ask for? A little work to on. Father's to Adam. How was yours? It was great. I got slippers? So now I'm like a real dad. I made pancakes in the morning. I got slippers? I made a bunch of dad jokes on the baseball show. And the producer even called me out for making all the dad jokes. And I never felt more like a father was a really great day. So, yeah, thanks for listening to my spiel. So all right. I'm doing a draft last week. I was not very happy about it. It just didn't really didn't really feel good to me is one of those like, I guess, it's okay. I didn't love any pick really. But I came up with this with this dilemma, let's just check, I had the third pick and I won't give away too much. This is for our magazine, so I won't give away too much. But when we got to round five at that point, I needed a wide receiver and I needed a tight end. But a lot of people need tight end by the time we get around five, so. I had this dilemma, do I go with the better overall player or the position scarcity at this point, I had two running backs into receivers and I was trying to decide between Evan Ingram and Brandin cooks. This was non PR, by the way. Evan Ingram and Brandin cooks and OJ Howard was still on the board. Eric Bron, Jared cook still on the board. But I knew these guys were not gonna make it back to me by the end of round six I had a long way to go before I made my next pick. I decided to go with Evan Ingraham and I don't know if I made the right call. So Dave, I know you've had a similar sort of even earlier in the drafts toward a toss up between a tight end and a wide receiver. Sure. And we know how scarce tight end is. And how important is to have a great tight end. And what have you been doing in these similar situations? Well, let me first say that I think you made the right call because of the position scarcity, you basically got the last tight end that we can look at it and say okay, he's got a chance to finish his a top three or four. Fantasy tied. Now see, I don't agree with that because you're crazy about. OJ hauer. No. I just think he is the more likely guy to be a top three or four tight end. He is my number four tight end. But OJ Howard hunter Henry have that same ability. I think just not quite as likely to hit it. I don't think they have as much of an opportunity in front of them as evidence has. I don't think there's any arguing that Evan Angra m- could finish his the target leader for the giants. Maybe not ahead of saquon. Maybe head of saquon but he'll be close. I don't think oh, Jay Howard or hundred Henry will finish the season as the target leaders for their respective teams. No, that's true. They do have better quarterbacks better offenses and Howard at least has been far more efficient with his targets than Ingram. Right. But we the whole argument that I j Howard all along. He just needs those stink and dark, it's why can't they just give them five or six targets game. That'd be better than what he said. Yeah. The sticking. The because because there's the point, I mean, the all those guys were gone, so you take make it back. That's why getting Evan Ingram when you did had to be done, assuming you didn't want stream tight. Ends also went can read didn't make it back to you, not even close. He didn't even make it out of the round. He made doing, usually Evan airi'q EIB, Ron didn't make it back. So, so I took Evan Ingraham fifty first overall that was the third pick of round five. Okay. Wait. A whole lot home was. And then later Jay Howard. And then Samed. Yes. Same round, Eric Brown hunter Henry, Jared cook the last three picks around so the so I think that made me feel better about the pick. Yeah. But if I if I had taken cooks, they're, obviously I wasn't getting a tight end. I guess I could have gotten. Like a rookie tight end or you know that Chris Herndon or something, but I could have gotten late like, okay, sorry. Jarvis landry. DJ more Tyler boy, Marvin Jones Dante Pettis all available later. So I ended up making the right pick. I think based on what transpired but just the overall question of tight end versus player that's going to put up better numbers score more fantasy points. You know what do you do? I think what changed the equation because I had actually basically the same type of decision a round earlier, I felt like I was considering taking Evan Ingraham, but I knew there were eight people picking between me and my next pick or nine people picking and I thought you would probably take Ingram, but I also thought, oh, Jay how're would probably come back Chinese fan. So my, my address, I am going to go ahead and take an round four. I took Sony, Michelle. And then wait and just take Howard or Ingram. Whichever one comes back and how a resort came back and I was fine with it. But in the spot you were in it was the choice between they aren't that for a parts. I don't feel like when did cooks get drafted right? That next pick it seconds, Jamie. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That always makes you feel good about it. He and he so he took Erz I think earlier. Yeah he took earth's in round two. And he said to me after I took Ingram's like, I'm so glad you took Ingram because I already have Erz and I didn't wanna feel awful about not being able to take Ingram around five so I guess we really like evident grim around pick fifty but, you know, Brandin cooks to me might be a little underrated. I this guy. This is where he's finished non PR in four seasons eleventh eighth eighth and fourteenth in PR, twelve tenth fifteenth and thirteen. So he's a guaranteed top fifteen receiver. He has been. He doesn't go with the top fifteen you know. So I don't know. I guess he let me so like you took Michelle instead of Howard 'cause you knew you could get Ingram Howard with your next big, but ocht hope you figured, and if not, then you could have gotten hunter Henry. But when I took Ingram, you took Howard were you trying to decide between OJ Howard or Calvin Ridley tyreek hill Tyler Lockett Sammy Watkins guys that went around that time. No, no, no. I had if one of those two made it back to me, I would have had a harder time deciding, if hunter Henry had been the one left because I don't like not getting one of those tight ends even in the mid range, but that I'm a little less certain about Henry as well. So if Ingram Howard were there, the decision had been made for me, there was nobody else in the board that I was considering I think one other key to your decision Adam is that Brandin cooks is certainly consistent over the last four years. But as someone who's had him on his fantasy team for many years. He's not consistent week to week. One one week. Brenick, good, right? When we give you fifteen points, next week it's going to be six, and I'm not saying that there's cause for concern, just when you draft, somebody like cook, she should know what you're getting into which is yes. He's got upside from week to week. You're going to start him every week. But half the time he's going to end up disappointing you. There are many titans her tight end. Sorry. There are many wide receivers that I think you could characterize the same way. And I think you probably were able to get one of them with your next pick who was your next pick, who is an ex receiver that you took Dante Pettus perfect. I was really happy about that. Yeah. Like you got how far apart are they going to be, I think, cooks safer than Pettus? I would draft cooks head of lettuce, but for around later and Nagara item that you want to get Pettus and late round six, I think you made the right choice. And I think that proves it because you wouldn't have had a good tight end in round six he would have had Brandin cooks, whose is significantly better than Dante Pettus time will tell. It's is, is better than ever. Negra m-. He might have slightly better numbers under the than ever. But having Ingram is going to be at that valuable tied imposition Levy production. That's better than Vance McDonald, a fat, Chris Herndon. Right. So just to clarify actually took Pederson, route seven I took Ingram around five I took mile Sanders around six and then I took Pederson, route seven but what you just said, you think cooks will have slightly better numbers than than ever Ingram. That's really the question. Like, if that's the case, if it's slightly better numbers than it's a no brainer. It's a slam dunk, but I think they could be I think they could be significantly better numbers. I've got cooked projected for twenty eight more fantasy points in Ingram. Yeah. And so in that case. All right. Well, that's interesting. I mean putting it in a fantasy point perspective twenty eight fantasy points separate the two and you'd go with tight end. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. Do you like to ask you something about, I'm going to ask you to look up to projections because the problem I've had is come in round? One round two. Travis Kelsey owed L, Beckham, how how, how far apart are they in your project, six points? Wow. Now that's a non PR and PR. I wonder what in PP are I actually have Kelsey protective over points? Okay. So for you. It's a no brainer to take Travis Kelsey ahead of hotel. And I've been taking del head of Kelsey certainly a non p p r and it's tough choice in PR, but I think Odell has fifteen hundred yard thirteen touchdown potential in Cleveland and I don't know if Kelsey Scott quite that much Kelsey Mike to twelve hundred ten. Kelsey I, I have Kelsey protected from where targets than Beckham right now. So it's tyreek. Yeah. This how tyreek hill factor into this project six game suspension. Okay. Kelsey last year had one hundred three catches one thousand three hundred thirty six yards and ten touchdowns. If you think he can repeat that then you probably should go ahead of Beckham. And I'm not saying he can't. But Dave, you've been taking back him. I have been. And I'm I think I'm okay with it, but the whole concept is. I know that if I pass on Travis Kelsey, I'm not only passing on him 'cause we're talking about early round to I'm passing on all those tight ends because there's no way that killing hurts are going to make it back to me in round three and I think I'm an N do I get into the anger and business in round four or you know what do I do for a tight end? Thinking that way, it, it all comes on how badly you've gotta have that stud tight end. If you've gotta have that stud, then you take Kelsey over Odell Beckham. Okay. All right, guys. Nice little discussion. There are want to make sure we save some time for his sleeper. So let me read our Email of the day. Just had an idea for a segment you could do on the podcasts comes for math, by the way at fantasy football CBS I dot com. We all know your first and second round picks won't win you your fantasy league. But we know your first and second round picks can lose. You your fantasy league by the way, disagree with that premise. I think they can win your fantasy but this segment would be where you guys go player by player and talk about how safe they are who has the highest floor. This could be injury chances decreases in usage. Touchdown regression coaching change, whatever. All right. So we're going to honestly we're going to do this quickly. I'm gonna look at the fantasy prose consensus rankings. I'm not gonna look at the draft which is did he was? I don't want this. The floor ometer. Yes. But boy, is that all right? Floor arbiters is that Laura meter a ten is really good. Like super high floor. Very yes. Okay. Floor arbiter for the top twenty four picks and fantasy saquon Barkley nine eight. Ezekiel Elliot seven ten ten how is he less safe than then parts because of the workloads had over the last three years? And all the additions that they made in Dallas. Okay. All right. Christian mccaffrey. Seven seven. I think Kathy's like nine in PR. Sure. Is that is that cool? Heath. I'll go eight. Beer, Alvin Kamara. I'll say seven to eight Melvin Gordon six seven last year. We were talking about him as like the safest running back. He's pretty much hurt his knees every year. I know I know but, you know, you're getting workload you're no, you're getting touchdowns when he plays he super-safe go six. Right, L, Gordon. David Johnson, six six deandre Hopkins. Ten. Yes. Devante Adams also ton nine I think Hopkins, I'm going to deduct the point because will fuller and all the buzz about KiKi UT and they don't really throw the ball all that much. How's the run game going to be this year? It might be. Okay. I'm I think if you have concerns about atoms that you need to have, like how could how could Hopkins be safer than atoms? Hopkins has done it for like four years Adams done at once Hopkins a terrible. Shame. They had a coaching change in Green Bay, which could lean to a small change in the distribution of targets. It's the same quarterback and coach in Houston bike. We just know everything about the Houston situation. We don't know as much about the Green Bay. When I think about the safe o meter and nine nine is really safe. It's better than like every running backs reports through Levy bell. Sex four Joe BIC city. Seven six Julio Jones eight. Hey, what's the risk with Joe mixing? He had as earn. Sure. I mean basic running back concerns, you could also throw on there that Cincinnati will probably be trailing it. They could be. They could win two games. All right. That stat that I thought was brilliant that he absolutely ridiculous that. He gets more work when their when it's not bore work. He averaged seven point three more carries per game and eight more fantasy points per game and wins than losses. He did last year. That is significant various different. That is not just your typical more work teams. Do run more sexual James Cotter zero to Ted on the floor OBT. It's seven six ODA. So worried about him. Splitting carries. He said himself. He said he's being nice. Okay. He's a nice guy. I would be I would be Florida if he's getting thirteen carries Lord flora. Metered Oto Beckham. Seven five hall. That's him. Man. He's injured almost every year and the bigger concern, I have with him is the possible drop in targets in Cleveland. Because the offense they ran last year was not one that throws the ball ten times per game to one player. They also didn't have a guy worthy of getting the ball ten times. Jarvis Landry has gotten the ball ten times per game plenty of times in his career. And he's been great. He's gotten you like seventy five yards when that happens. Odle is has been consistent when he's played and that was in New York with ally manning as a quarterback. He's already said is new quarterback is better. He's, he's going to be automatic every game he plays hopefully he stays healthy. That's the thing the injuries. Why game seven Travis? Cousy Travis Kelsey. It's hard not to give them a nine. I'll give them a nine would be a ten if he wasn't currently injured. Michael thomas. Yeah. Nine Todd Gurley. Two. Four Nick shop. Six. See the same as Lebanon bell for me is terms of floor. I'm going to say seven I'm going to be a little more optimistic. I think the Browns offense is going to be awesome juju. Seven. Dobbin cook. Six at six five. Mike evans. Six seven Antonio Brown. Six five George Kibble. Seven six t y Hilton. Seven eight five five keyed alad seven you're loving five. I've, you guys have not agreed like Ted picks. Larry, seven five, six two two people are gonna get, you know what I thought when we had hoped their averaging them exactly. We had been Gretchen talked about juju Smith Schuster, and how much he loves him. I'm kind of feeling that because I had sort of overlooked juju did one game without Antonio Brown last year. They played the Bengals the worst defense at football your and they really struggled. But before that two seasons ago without Antonio Brown or the game it plus the game. When Brown got injured juju was just a freaking beast. I'm sorry. I, I think he's maybe the third most likely receiver to be the number one receiver this year. I think you've got to root against all the other receivers and Pittsburgh gaining more target share in that offense to him. He's volume drip. Even officiant wide receivers did he was? He was great. And he I love the fact that he can make plays after the catch, and he can shed defenders, I love it, but he's not running a lot of routes that are fifteen plus yards downfield. All right. That's the forum meter the wonderful debut of the floral meter. We've got a bunch of news notes for you some minicamp developments, and he'd sleepers and your emails and my voice doing that. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. 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In the travel says that Todd's gonna participate in training camp says, don't expect them to play in the preseason. He didn't play in the preseason. Larry's actually missed six straight preseason games. That's gonna look like ten by the time we get to September the joint practice that the Rams. I believe are going to have with both the other California teams. And I'm not so sure he's going to participate in those either. So the only time when Todd's going to get ready for twenty nineteen is going to be just in training camp practices. The, the trainer said that there is quote and arthritic component in the knee. So, basically, kind of confirms the athlete report from back in March that there is some sort of arthritis, we talked about the weight loss. You guys have heard the reports about tiger. Shedding a little bit of weight. The trainer says that that's being done to shed body fat that they're trying to just get him from ten percent body fat to seven percent at maybe even add a little bit of lean muscle to bulk him up a little bit while shedding that fat, that when I was a little confused about, I could always double check with him on that. But they're trying to get him to two hundred and eighteen pounds. I also asked about. A possible workload reduction. I just told them straight up. I said, that's the thing that people who play fantasy football are most worried about with Todd is that he's not gonna get over three hundred touches and he said, it's never been told to me that there's a plan to decrease decreases workload come week one, and he justified the Rams decision to draft Daryl Anderson is getting another great running back who can help in the passing game and certainly as a home run type of player. But never did he say anything about Todd. Being sat down for thirty percent of the place forty percent of the place just for Daryl Henderson. He did use words like preserve and manage, when it came to keeping Todd in shape, and you really get the idea from talking to travel that the plan in place is to keep Todd Gurley healthy and ready to go for as long as you possibly can to manage the arthritis in his knee. And I'm one saying there's threats not, not the trainer not the Rams, not anybody else and not that I know for fact it's just putting puzzle pieces together. But if just turning it all the fancy, I appreciate your being optimistic about Todd's future. It's tough to draft him knowing that he's got a knee condition that must be managed not just this year, but for the rest of his career, and I intend to talk to Brandon Bowers. Are you familiar with Dr Brandon Bowers Adam, I have not? Yeah. Yeah. I've talked to him a couple times. But on our podcast he's been, I think he's been on our by guy is not you don't think so. No, he's definitely been on CBS sports HQ on. Okay. And he's sports lines. Consulted. Oh, yes, I know. He's been on the podcasts. He might not have been on this. Maybe he was on the pick six podcast. Maybe that's why we're getting our lines cross on him, but I'm gonna talk to him about it to see what he knows about managing arthritis and what it could mean. And is there a chance that he can consistently get eighteen touches a week, he consistently find the endzone every week? There was something I noticed, I was looking at his snaps in the playoffs. The Rams had twenty nine red zone snaps in their three playoff games. Todd Gurley was in on seven of that. Wow. Wow. Yeah. C J Anderson had the rest. So I wonder if there's a correlation there between him not being at under percent and playing in an area were, you know, not much, not as much room and the fences king in, I. Well, you're the lowest tog early. I mean you have eighteenth and you're not PR Anqing. See thousand thirteenth Jamie has thirteenth. You have girly behind guys like MAC and Josh Jacobs letter for that. So we'll see what happens. I don't wanna talk about early every show. Oh, but I mean that was good until right? I think you get to a points in the third round for. It's just yes, there's significant risk. But you're also looking at I already ready like in our picked by it's for the magazines only give too much way. But I started off with Zeke and Kim. Now on that point third-round and think if I've got so you can talk girly league might be over. Right. And so that's probably about where I'm going to take him when I start feeling like that. But you could you could make that happen in round two. Theoretically. You could you don't have to wait till around three to make that happen. No. But you've got him what round four now run three. Okay. All right. News notes, Mike silver of NFL network reported that several veteran. Cleveland Browns players approach Baker Mayfield about his comments about Duke Johnson. And he also reported that Todd Mahnken the offense coordinator, the transition has not gone smoothly as planned trouble in paradise. Boy, don't talk about another man's money. Yeah. I, I didn't like that from bigger mayfield's. It was really unusually harsh to do that to a teammate. But I think usually harshest, probably a good way like he, he could be the new been oh, he's, he's going to tweeted as soon as soon as I saw the story like Baker Mayfield is going to be the number one villain in, in football, people are going to love him, and people are going to hate him. It's going to be kind of like Cam Newton, that's only if he wins. He's got a win first before that happened. Well, he will hate him if he does win. But people would think cams Kim's doing what he did no different different. But Cam was very polarizing. You know it's not so much store anymore. But all the celebrating like people hated that, but people love that. So I'm not saying one side of the other. But I just know that, that Baker is going to be very polarizing. We knew that going in though, the chief sign Harrison bucket, or a four year extension, the patriots acquired tight end Michael Roberts fail the physical and now he got cut by the lions. So the patriots are stuck with their lousy group of tight ends, including Ben Watson, who is suspended four-game suspension. Yes. Got Matt Lacoste there. Anthony Miller expensive, we ready for training camp after off season shoulder surgery, Chris Herndon is likely facing a two-game suspension due to DWI. What does that mean for Herndon don't drop them? Oh, I don't know about that. I'm not drafting a borderline number one tied in that's not playing the first two weeks of the season. What if we can start putting together a list of tight ends that we are comfortable with for the first two games of the season to pair with Chris earned as double digit round pick in one of our standard leagues. I'm not a no. But in a deeper Scher. Sean McVeigh said the Rams are going to extend Jared Goff marquees lease not expected to be ready for the start of training camp. We knew that we'll talk more about that in a bit with the sleepers, John Harbaugh is hopeful that rookie Markey's Brown, who will also talk about later, we'll be ready for training camp after this Frank surgery. The saints sign Rashard Matthews doesn't matter. I don't think so not yet know Travis Kelsey expects me ready for training camp. He had offseason ankle, surgery. Baltimore defensive tackle, Michael Pierce was removed from minicamp practice for being out of shape. We have on this podcast. Because Michael Pearson's very good. And he's a key to their run defense but, you know, he's he's way overweight right now. Plenty of time to get back into shape and Sony. Michelle had arthroscopic knee surgery, according to the according to the ethnic. So what's your reaction to that? Michelle arthroscopic knee surgery. If you draft him, you gotta get Damon airs, you have to make that commitment to drafting to patriots running backs before the end of round, eight and Harris's gonna continue to pick up steam, especially if Sony is sideline going into training camp, again, I did draft him in the fourth round of our non PR drafts. I don't think I wouldn't take that early NPR for sure. I didn't get Harris. I don't remember when he was taken. But I, I think you do have to worry about having an extra running back that you really feel decent about starting. There also could be a situation where we don't feel good about either of these guys fantasy because they could take away from each other. You wanna talk about restrictions on carries. The patriots can do that with Sony, Michelle easily and is, is Sony gonna get a series of early downs. And Harris gets the next series James white picks up all the passing downs. Could be a real, Honey. Nut cluster. Damian Harris went in the eighth round middle of the eighth round that twelve team league. All right. We're going to skip a segment the minicamp developments sorta. That's the name of the segment stuff, like which running backs are going to be more involved in the passing game. What Nick foles said about his running backs who the new jets GM really likes right now called a pleasant surprise who? Russell Wilson is raving about maybe next time I distribute the notes, I'll actually, right? Russell wilson. Russell westbrook. And whose Green Bay's number two wide receiver might actually be right now. We will save that for our second show of the week right now. It's about heath sleepers make sure we get plenty of time on heat sleeper. So he's got twelve of them up twelve yes. Sleepers breakouts. And bus. They're available on the website. We're gonna talk about six of them to quarterbacks Lamar. What would you say Lamar Jackson since it's lar Jackson and Dak Prescott they are sleepers for you. Why is that sir? There's two different answers here, four deck. It's basically that he's being drafted behind where he's finished almost every year and definitely wear. He's finished whenever he's had a number one wide receiver his pace last year. Once they acquired a Maury Cooper was basically the best he's ever had in his career. I do believe he's going to be a low in number one quarterback. And if you're going with the I'm just going to wait on quarterback will, you can wait almost until the last round for deck because the fifteenth quarterback of the ward, he's a backup according to ADP, he's going to be worth starting more weeks in not Lamar Jackson can't can I pause and talk about that. I, I know I asked you about them at the same time. So I apologize. So. I understand sometimes a player could get drafted later than where finishes every year. Grand cooks is an example, Philip rivers Matthew Stafford especially last year at Stafford have been examples Stafford was top ten like pretty much every year, but nobody ever in that way. Rivers top twelve every year. Nobody maybe around that if you feel like they don't really have any upside, they're just kind of play sixteen games, they put up their numbers, whatever what do you think the upside is you sort of alluded to it, but I just want to press with Dak Prescott. I mean because I could see a scenario where for me it's Garoppolo for you. It might be Rothlisberger where you say, okay Dax probably gonna finish higher. But if everything goes, right, these guys are going to blow back out of the water. You know is still that same quarterback or does he actually have big upside? Well, he was the number six quarterback is rookie year. So I think that would be fair. Place to set his upside, he was on pace for about forty five hundred passing yards. With Cooper last year. I, I don't think he's gonna throw thirty touchdowns but he might come close to thirty combined rushing and passing touchdowns. He's at six rushing touchdowns every year, which is weird, but it does kind of illustrate how they use how they run the ball in the red zone. Two thousand sixteen must have been a pretty bad year for quarterbacks because his numbers have been pretty much the same every year, and he was the number six quarterback, and he only through four interceptions that must have helped, but it's not like he had a bonkers year. But I don't know if it was necessary. I don't know if it was a bad or not. I'll tell you all right. Tell me about Lamar Jackson. Everybody knows that his upside. Mostly lies in his speech, and they aren't willing to run the ball quite as often. But I just don't think it's particularly fair to say, well, we saw Lamar Jackson as a rookie. He can't throw the ball, it's obvious. He is not going to be a good quarterback because if you look and compare him to Mitchell Trubisky as a rookie Carson Wentz sue, Adam, you very correctly argued, I don't care. What happened is rookie year. Jared Goff who was one of the worst rookie quarterback's. I can remember he had a better passer rating than Trubisky, wince, and Gough did and their rookie year. He averaged more yards per attempt. Then Trubisky wins were often during their rookie year. Yeah. Dave, Dave was reading over my shoulder. I haven't seen the statute. So I was looking at the only thing the completion percentage is, is worse than trubisky's in wins better than golf's considered cough was just a, a nightmares. Okay. But there's also the matter of pass tempts. He didn't throw the ball that much city because he did not know. Right. So that's I mean. I mean it's. Numbers when you're not throwing that much. We know he didn't throw the ball. Well, he is not going to be a high volume passer. It's easy to put up rate numbers. Obviously. I made like if you're a bad passer, and you want to have a good passer rating. The less often you throw the better, your chances are is what I was trying to say it is easier to yes, but I just don't believe that his hundred seventy attempts tells us he can't throw a football. He can't be a good quarterback in those other three quarterbacks magically had something that he doesn't have that made them still be possibly good after the Rick. Okay. I don't disagree with your premise. I guess what I would disagree with is this. It's not Najeeb have something. It's that Lamar Jackson came into the NFL with a reputation of being a bad passer who needed work. The other guys didn't they were they were good passing prospects. Lamar Jackson wasn't. We know he really has to make up ground there and even he said he's not satisfied where he is right now. Right, right. He's not good yet as passer, the bar is lower for him as a passer because he's going to pick up so many points with this legs. But he also like is, is software junior year average eight point seven eight point five yards per Pesident. He had an awesome passer rating in college. I would I would assume better than Jared Goff like video games with Bobby between, although it's like of Wentz was playing against high school kids. Okay. Well, Dave, what do you think? First of all, I think both of these quarterbacks should make your list if you're interested in getting two quarterbacks on your fantasy team. I'd no doubt about it to quarterback leaves. They're going to be prominent guys, they're going to get drafted in the first. Goodness. Probably definitely the first half of the draft probably closer to top eighty pick both of them. We're gonna go maybe even top sixty depending how aggressive people are about drafting quarterbacks in your league in one quarterback leagues. You have to make the decision about whether or not, you want to carry two quarterbacks if I've got a stud if I if I draft Andrew luck I'm not drafting another quarterback. I don't really want to deal with having that second guy on the bench. Taking up a bench bought knowing that I'm not going to get what I think is fair trade value for that quarterback, even if he goes off, assuming it doesn't go off, Patrick Mahomes style, which I don't think Jackson is going to look the offense. Lamar Jackson is in is predicated on running, but it's not just him running. They like to run run. And then they're gonna take deep shots another layer on the Lamar Miller bust cake. Is that both marquees Brown and miles boykin or not at one hundred percent? They missed all their a work. They missed the minicamps how ready and how in sync will they be within errant Lamar Jackson. By the time the season starts by the time the season ends, I think they could be good. I don't know that we know that he's going to be, that's the, that's the premise that I just reject is the idea that he is going to be an errand quarterback this year because he was in his rookie year. When so many quarterbacks have been in their rookie or, and then were so much better in their second year. I think we should expect him to be better if and they're talking up like he's, he's doing a better job throwing the football in ravens camp. Yeah. This is one of those things that I feel like we need. We can afford to be cautious about because the position is so deep because there are so many interesting quarterback options. Call him a sleeper. Absolutely. I'm with you hundred percent is he worth late round pick. If you want to quarterbacks yes, the answer is yes to both Dak and the mar- Jackson. They're both worth it, but I think it's a mistake. If you go your whole drive without a quarterback, and you begin your season with Lamar Jackson or deck Prescott as you're only quarterback, I and that I don't really mind doing that with deck. For sure. Because he's not going to hurt you deck. Does play against the giants in week one. So maybe it's, it's not the worst case scenario and the ravens are at Miami and week one, maybe that's out the maybe I need to take the statement backers second these guys that you can have. But I just, I don't know how reliable they will be on an every week basis. I think there are other quarterbacks that we're going to be able to find later on draft day that'll be more reliable than Daqin. Lamar I have the mar- Jackson. His sixteen game pace based on the seven starts. I know you gave us that about dangle silly. It's like twelve hundred rushing but, but it's fantasy points based on a six point per passing. Touchdown league. I had him on pace to be the number thirteen quarterback. That's about right. And but only one fantasy point behind number eleven Tom Brady. So basically a three way tie for eleventh, and then it comes down to whether you think he will improve from his rookie year to his second year. There's also one other thing that we I we shouldn't leave it out at all is Lamar Jackson built to. Survive sixteen games. I think the answer to that is hell no. They're you know, they're tailoring the offense around in there. They're building a brand new offense for him. So that's another thing that is exciting for him. It's gonna gonna be polarizing player. I, I very much want to have some shares of Mark Jackson, I, although arguing I did with heath. I, I agree with you. I just I don't really agree that he's the same as Winston Goff and Trubisky because he just he wasn't a good passer. We knew that coming in. He was better passer than golfing college. No, he wasn't. But he wasn't a better thrower. Like I can tell you that I'm not a scout but I guarantee you. Fast search Jared Goff rookie season. You can watch highlights of all the awful awful, MRs Jared Goff, green college terrible throat guy me coming out of college like rating them as passing prospects. Like, we I think this is a system slash traditional quarterback issue, and not necessarily talent issue, pure talent or passing ability is different. He's obviously extremely talented guy but he was not a good passer. All right. By the way, deck Prescott. So he finished sixth in two thousand sixteen with three hundred and thirty two fantasy points in six point passing. Touchdown leaks. If he had scored those same amount of fantasy points in two thousand seventeen he would've finished sixth, if he'd scored the same amount of points to eighteen he would've finished fifteenth. What are you for quarterbacks last year? All right. Let's go to more sleepers for heath. Peyton Barbara and caylin Balaj couple running backs Peyton barber and Palin. Blush. Are you? Sure, you have the right books running back. No, no, no. I don't know how anyone could be sure about anything with the bucks, backfield there have been some positive reports about Ronald Jones, there have been a few positive murmurs about Bruce Anderson. I if I was writing a deep sleepers call him. I would have put Bruce Anderson here I have a hard time calling Ronald Jones asleep because he's going three rounds before Peyton barber. According to average Jeff position. I think currently Peyton Barbara is the starting running back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I would rather draft the starter in the thirteenth round then Ronald Jones in the tenth. Is that what they're ADP's our pain, Barbara's ADP is round thirteen because I don't think I've been in attract were either of these guys have gone in one fifty three overall Lord in the national. Football championship in draft since is that investor? All am. I know I'm a little right at his not behind. They have they have some. They have different types of drifts, okay? But Ronald Jones is around one twenty I think why did I tell you where they went in our most recent draft Ronald yes, flee, they went five picks apart. And I was actually so mad that Jamie took Ronald Jones, one pick ahead of be. I'd never thought it'd be so mad to knock get Ronald Jones so Jones went late in the eighth round. What's was twelve times. Eight that's six. So he went ninety six ninety third and pain, Barbara what ninety seventh. Non PR. Yeah. I think that that's probably right around where you will find them. Okay. Yeah. K until one separates from the other Caleb. Ours was the next pick, by the way, went right after paid barber. Ninety eighth overall. That's professor other sleeper. No one has seemed to want to give Kenyan Drake the workload that I think he deserves. And his head coach Bryan four is has said that it's basically a competition for that lead job. I don't think there's much question that Kenyan Drake is going to be the, the, the back that works on passing downs. And I think Drake should be an okay, value in PR leagues where he's being drafted regardless, but there is a chance, the Kaelin Balaj that Frank gore role and yes, he went with the second pick of the ninth round in this draft. That is not been typical of normal drafts. So for. So where would you take the blush? I don't think this is necessary like I, I'd rather get him in the double digit rounds. And he's normally there it's hard to compare that draft with calling him a sleeper because he don't know that he has a -sarily is pick ninety eight. So I wanna go back to Jones, real quick rather barber. Same backfield Peyton barber. Just hasn't really shown us much in his career. He's been a Jag. Yes. AS forty one catches in three seasons. He is a three point eight yards per carry. I this time last year. Nobody thought Damian Williams was any good getting in the right system. Obviously matters. Do you. Do you think the biggest argument if one guy, I would wager if there is a running back who gets a feature role in Tampa Bay, whether it be barber Jones where Bruce Anderson and holds onto it for fourteen games this season. They are going to be a top twenty ranked. Can I can I drop another nugget from the trainer that I think? Yeah, but we only have like four minutes left. So this is just gonna put some bird duty into this whole conversation. I asked the trainer trainer Travelgate trans guys for the NFL lot of big name guys, I asked him for an under the radar sleeper, who he works with any named Andre Ellington, who is trying to stage a comeback with Tampa Bay as they're passing downs back and was somebody with insurance has worked with before about that. He could also meddle in heats, plants repainting Barbara to be a, a great sleeper in twenty nineteen Aaron says he does like the Tampa Bay backfield. And he says you don't need a David Johnson or a Todd Gurley. All right. We got to pass catchers in. Sorry heath about two minutes. That's yeah. I don't know that we need more than that for these guys. These are deep sleepers Keelan Cole who in his rookie year was remarkably efficient seventeen point eight yards per reception. It's got about fifty two percent of his passes with Blake Bortles throwing the ball. I think he's a very, very good complement to d- Westbrook who's going to handle the underneath work, and I don't you don't you're not going to start him in one of our standard leagues where you have to wide receivers in one flex, but I three wide receiver one flex league or a too wide receiver to flicks. And especially in best ball format think there's a lot of upside there with coal, and then we'll Disley and a very good start to the year. I think he was third on the team in targets last year before he got hurt and I still expect as long as he can get healthy for the store to camp. He's going to be the best tight end on the Seahawks. I think it's a great call. Three catches on five yards and a touchdown in week one three catches forty two yards. A touchdown in week two and then only three. Targets one catch four yards in week three. And then he got hurt and week four he had only one target miss the rest the season. I mean you look at the game log, it's five five three and one targets for, we'll this lead. But. There's, there's something there and definitely somebody, you could take a look at he opened the season against Cincinnati at home. If you're streaming tight ends that isn't necessarily such a bad thing. I think Cincinnati's defenses a little over the hill at this point, by the way, I need to amend my comment on Chris Herndon. If he is suspended for the first two games of the season, he comes back week three at New England pass week four. He's on by week five at Philadelphia week, six Dallas week seven New England again we ate a Jacksonville. I'm on heath side with Chris earned and now by the Bengals allow the most fantasy points tight ends last year. So we'll dislo going to be a sleeper in week one. That's for sure. I have her Jacob Hollister's name as someone who stood out in minicamp for the Seahawks. All right. Well, I guess the Bengals are so bad against tight ends. It's probably good news for d Metcalf. When we return on Thursday, we'll get some breakouts. Maybe some bus from heath and go over so many camps, and, and we will certainly have a longer show, and we emails, Advantis football CBS dot com. I do appreciate all the emails, and I will make time for them either. I will write back or we'd some on the show or whatnot. Thanks for tuning in.

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Steelers Burning Question: Who has more pressure in 2019? Big Ben or Mike Tomlin?

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Steelers Burning Question: Who has more pressure in 2019? Big Ben or Mike Tomlin?

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And I like to think that I come off as being pretty smooth on the microphone, not so much my voice, but the fact that I can I speak. Well, and I don't stutter. I don't stumble over my words, I think that I can string together thoughts correctly. The funny thing is I never really have anything planned. I don't write anything down. I just kind of fly off the seat of my pants. This is live. If those who don't know that that this is a livestream. So if I mess up your hearing it whether it's an audio platform or for watching on YouTube. It's this is it, you know, and but tonight for this burning question. I got I got a little spunk. I don't know. What it was? I got a little spunk. And hey, I went and I said I'm going to get prepared. I'm going to be prepared for this. Because to me, this is a very very difficult burning question. So for me, I don't I'm prepared you if there's on YouTube. I've got my notebook. Okay. I'm prepared. I just don't have the answer to the question yet. So I'm gonna once you ought to listen, and I want you all to think about it. And then I want you to answer the question. Please. Join the live chat right now. Try not to answer before you hear me out. And really think about it. We all have this knee-jerk reactions to questions about the Pittsburgh Steelers. But absolutely try to avoid that. Okay. So here's the question. If you looked at the I guess you'd call it the title of this episode for YouTube. It is the burning question who has more pressure on them in two thousand nineteen Ben Rothlisberger or Mike Tomlin? I'll say that again who has more pressure on them in two thousand nineteen. Mike Tomlin head coach of the Steelers. Or Ben Rothlisberger said it's again, I think a lot of people here this question and this happens every single week. I have people say this. They know the answer right away. Like, they I got it. And then when I start to explain things, and I give my side of things, maybe bows, explained both sides of the story, then they're tuned kind of changes. So I'm going to go through these guys these individuals right off the top. So we wanted a time Ben Tomlin, and we're gonna have five reasons why they're going to have a ton of pressure on them in two thousand nineteen. And then at the end, we're going to talk about who has the most pressure on them. Let's start with the quarterback. That's my quarterback Ben Rothlisberger. Okay. So first and foremost when I'm writing down these five bits of information that I think it what's the most important reason why Ben would have pressure because if you think about it the guy's been two to three Super Bowls. He's one to who's probably a. Ah heat will not probably he's a hall of Famer I have saved probably a first ballot hall of Famer e there's not so much pressure. But this off season was different. The first thing I wrote down where the comments that were made not only by. Teammates that were departing. We're talking lady on bell. We're talking to him Brown that also teammates that used to play for him. I'm talking Ryan Clark. I'm talking manual Sanders. Talking and Hines ward folks said negative things about his leadership in him as a teammate that's gonna put some pressure on him. He has to realize that there's going to be a magnifying glass around everything that he does on the sidelines. Everything you've thought that the camera was always on an Tonio Brown last season in years prior. You know, that's when they caught him throwing the water jug and Baltimore two years ago. It's going to be the same thing with Asperger's. They're gonna wanna see housi- interacting with teammates housi- interacting with the coaching staff. Did he get in someone's face? Is he talking to someone is he not talking to someone? That's what this season's going to be an don't think the Rothlisberger. Who's a veteran in this league? Doesn't know that it's going to bring some pressure. Is that pressure gonna lead into the play on the field? I doubt it not with Ben. But at the same time, it's going to be pressure. So that was number what the comments that were made buys former teammates, and his guess you could say teammates were leaving. That's gonna put some pressure. Okay. Number two. I felt this way for two years with Todd Haley gone, then rothlisburger got his guy in a lot of people myself included that his guys it technically him in. That is Randy feeders. The offense coordinator in he's basically calling the shots in my opinion with the offense that's pressure because Todd Haley's offense. Although a lot of people hated it. And he did some really dumb things from time to time. You can't say it wasn't productive. It was productive. They scored a lot of points. They were very good in certain situations. They taught Haley's offense got them to the AFC championship game one year. So now that Rothlisberger basically, and we can all assume maybe that's not. Not a good assumption. If we can all assume that Rothlisberger said, it's either hammer me, and that was when he was hinting with retirement and his tune certainly has changed since then. So that makes me think that he wanted to Haley gone. So Haley's gone has been last year is the rainy feeder experience year one year two there's going to be some pressure because no more is there that feeling out process. All the players that have been there. No would feet nor was gonna want essentially what Ben is going to want. And I think that's going to be a ton of pressure on him to make sure that this offense is successful. Is he going to throw the ball fifty times a game as he what's it gonna look like this pressure? What's it gonna look like without Antoni around lady on bell a lady avion bells a little different because he was there last year. But without Antonio Brown. That's a big void in that offense. Now, that's some pressure for him to perform well in the offense that he essentially hand-picked, and although I doubt he wanted Antonio Brown gone. I. Severely doubt. The Ben Rothlisberger lost any sleep over TIMMY around leaving at just call. It a gut. It's a gut reaction. I just think that Rothlisberger it had his he was at his which was wicks and with Antonio Brown. He'd just like, you know, what I've done on done. I will never forget the game. China think if you're the live chat you remember? There was a play where he was. Ben Rothlisberger was rolling out. I want to say he might have ran the ball in for a touchdown. And he stood up. Antonio around must've says something and then looked over at him and said to stop being an effing baby. You could read his word you'd raise lips on my on my dad sent me a tax, and we said the same as I think did you see what Ben just said in that? Was you stop being an effing baby? I think rothlisburger had had it up to here with his antics. I think he was good to see him go. But still the pressure is going to be there for this offense to perform well because it's essentially Roth Asperger's offense. And now we move on. Let's not forget that with the Pittsburgh. Susan, this is something my co-host on the standard is a standard, Lance Williams talks about all the time. And that is how in Pittsburgh, you're not measured by wins and losses and a regular season you're measured by championships. And let's be honest Steelers haven't been there in a long time. Let alone one one it's been since two thousand and ten since the Steelers head even been to the Super Bowl. They lost Green Bay that year. And they haven't was the AFC championship run that they lost a New England. But other than that they haven't even sniff the play they they didn't make the playoffs last year. They haven't really sniffed the championship. They haven't been to the dance in a long time. And you have to think maybe Roth Asperger's wondering here, I am in the waning years of my career. Do we still have it? Do I still have it is this team capable? That's pressure is pressure on him as a captain. It's pressure on him as a leader in pressure on him as a quarterback. So that's going to be another area to keep it on as well next. I think the Ben Rothlisberger in this could have been number one to be totally honest with you. This could have been number one. Then Rothlisberger is gonna chip on his shoulder this year, and it's going to be. Because in Tonio Brown the way he left I think Ben Rothlisberger wants to prove to everyone that look I'm the guy that makes these receivers in so AB can leave. I'll make James Washington juju Ryan Switzer, Dante Moncrieff, I'll make them all look good. I'll make them all look better than you ever thought. They were I guarantee you, that's his mindset, and although that's awesome. And that's exactly the mindset I want out of my team's quarterback my favorite teams quarterback at the same time. I also see that as being pressure, and that's what this whole segments about is pressure. Who's feeling the most pressure? Does that make Ben Rothlisberger work a little bit harder? That can't be a bad thing. Does it? Make Ben Rothlisberger force things a little too much that could be a bad thing. So I think he wants to prove that AB didn't make Ben Rothlisberger. Because Ben Rothlisberger was Big Ben air quotes air for those listening and audio form that he was. Big Ben before Antonio Brown, even came to the Steelers. And I think he wants to remind everybody looked at. I'm not who I am. Because this one guy I who I am. Because at who I am in. I made him who he is. I turned into a new round AB. That's not necessarily good thing as we've come to doubt. But still that's going to be pressure. I think that's going to be pressure. And then Lastly, I think that the pressure is also going to be on Rothlisberger to play cleaner brand of football in two thousand nineteen. He threw for over five thousand yards last year. And that's fantastic. But they missed the playoffs and he also led the NFL interceptions. Now, I know that Dave Scofield Mike one of my co host on the Steelers preview which airs tomorrow night Thursday night around nine o'clock makes you check us out live here here live on YouTube. He's going to say, well, yeah. But Jeff there was the lowest total interception. Mark in the NFL. Like the last two decades. I don't care. He still led the league in interceptions. So I think there's gonna be some pressure for him to not turn the ball over as much. I remember as two years ago. He went into training camp saying he didn't want to throw any interceptions at all the entire camp. And I wanna say he came really close to doing that. And he s- protecting the football was paramount. But then last year and training camp, he came in with a little different mindset. And that was more of a I needed as let it loose. Sometimes we saw were that got him. So the pressure might be this year. He's got to play a little bit cleaner. He's gotta keep that football out of the defense his hands in that's going to be some pressure. So those five things I'll run down in case. You're just joining us live on YouTube number one where the comments made by his teammates. Okay. That the players that used to play with him and. And you're leaving town how they basically just ripped him. That's going to be pressure. No more Todd Haley to to you know, Bank on Randy feet ner experiences going into year two. So that's his offense. That's pressure hasn't been to the Super Bowl and over of ten years. That's pressure. He's got prove that it's Ben that made into Neo Brown. Not the other way around that's pressure. And lastly cancer so many interceptions. That's going to be pressured. Okay. Now, let's go to the other side of the docket. The other side of the coin, however, you wanna put it that would be Mike Tomlin head coach different kind of pressure much different type of pressure. I don't think that you know. We'll we'll answer the question, which is who's going to have who's gonna have more pressure into dozen nineteen. Let's go over. What might Thomas is the first and foremost top of the list for me you missed the playoffs last year. You were seven to an one at one point in did not make the. Playoffs finishing a distant disappointing nine six and one that leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I'm sorry. I people that are Mike Tomlin fans, and I'm one of them love to tout about all those things, you know. Hey, he's never had a losing season. And that's true. And that's awesome. But at the same time if you're eight or nine and seven in you don't make the playoffs. Who cares if you who cares? If you don't have a losing season. Yeah. That's just a nice little feather in your cap. You wanna make the postseason? You wanna get to the dance? You wanna punch your ticket at least giving you a shot, and they didn't do that last year. So that's going to be some pressure next is the this could be number one, it really could the perceived the perception I should say that he has an inability to control his players, I as someone that used to be coach. Now, if you listened to a standard as I've coached in high school, that's the extent of my coach house ahead varsity. Coach not football doesn't matter. If you're coaching group vigils, and it's a team sport. You have some of these issues when someone whether it's the media whether it's the team whether it's your ship perceived that you can't control your team. That's a problem. That's a big problem. So now, you have a situation where Mike Tomlin every single issue that might happen. Let's say a player misses a walk-through. Let's say a player as perpetually late. Let's say someone does something on the field that warrants a flag. Let's say an excessive celebration, let's say that somebody says something in the media that is not very attuned to the what the Steelers want to hear from their players, whatever the case is you have that happen. People are going to want to know, what's he gonna do? Because everyone thinks this is the perception that I'm talking about everyone thinks that Mike Tomlin just let lady on. L and especially in TIMMY, Brown just run rampant. They just run rampant kinda like that toddler that just gets whatever they want. They just yell and scream, okay? To give him what he wants said that he shuts up that's kind of what I felt like. And so now, Mike Tomlin's gotta have this perception hovering over his head like a cloud saying can I control my players? He's got to prove it that's going to be some pressure. You those situations are going to happen. Someone's going to say something someone's gonna do some it happens all the time. I hope it doesn't happen that often this year for the Steelers. But if it does what you're gonna do that's pressure. I have to say that speaking of perception, Mike Thomas perception in terms of the national media, probably even the local media, probably even the fan base in even maybe I don't know this for a fact, I'm just guessing, but maybe even with other players that could be potentially free agents. I think Mike Tomlin's perception is at an all time low people used to tout him as the next great coach they wanted to they free agents wanted to play for him players want to be drafted by him players wanted nothing. But the play for Mike Tomlin coach t they heard all the stories. He's a winner. He's going to give you a good chance to succeed to get to the Super Bowl. I'm not sure if people think that anymore, and so Mike Tomlin might say. I don't care what other people think that are outside these walls. I don't care. Care, what the media says I'm gonna pay attention to that. That's all white noise. But you have to understand that he he feels it. He has to feel it if there was a free agent. And there was I think it was Roby the cornerback. They offered him a three year contract. He said, no, I'll take a one year deal for Houston to play quarterback for them instead of a three year deal in Pittsburgh. You have to wonder if someone said, I don't want anything. I don't want any part of that circus in Pittsburgh. And if they did. That's that's fresher perception can be reality, folks. And in this case, maybe it is. And if it is that's a problem. Okay. So now, let's go to the next one for my Thomas is number four. I think the ownership might be reaching the end of their rope with certain things it's tough to go into an office of a coach she's never had a losing season. And I know. I know I just said a few minutes ago, how the fan base of Mike Tomlin loves to tout that but bear with me. So you know, it suffered owner to go into my Thomas office in and complain about the product. But when this organization has been drug through the mud the way that it has and that they're not making the playoffs and they're losing first-round playoff games. Like, they didn't it gets the Jaguars after a buy in the divisional round, the two thousand seventeen with now all that stuff is having. It's just building. It's building the drama team turmoil. As everyone calls all this stuff building building building. You have to wonder when ownership art Rooney the seconds going to say I've had enough I've had enough. It's not going as planned. See? I'm not saying that's happened. I'm not saying they're thinking about it. But you have to think that if you're using the the terminology of the hot seat that might Tomlin's hot seat might be warming up a little bit this year in particular. You get rid of the clowns of the circus. Okay. They're gone. What he what does this team do? Now. A lot of people were down on the Steelers the over under a Vegas is nine wins. They used to be a joke in the they used to be a punchline nine Wednesay serious KOMO but not anymore. Some people are saying take the under hard on the Steelers because there's no way they're going to get done with that's up to coach Tomlin. This is his team. Now, get the superstar divas are gone unless you count Ben Rothlisberger is one of those in which case, they're not gone. You have all this stuff where? I just don't understand that. The ownership is probably just getting a little fed up say he's got he's got rectify so much stuff. No more drama. No more stupid comments in the media. No, more sideline antics, all this stuff. That is pressure period. Let's go to the last one civil really simple, actually. And that is his easier to fire a coach than it is to cut a player Deary it period. They can cut ties with Mike Tomlin right now. And not elm, another diamond say see, thanks your things in the last decade. Whereas a player you have dead money. You have more of a performed performance on the field. That's pressure. I think the Mike Tomlin has to think to himself shoo, man. They can fire me in a heartbeat, and they won't even have to think twice about it. Because it's a different. It's a different ball of wax. Then cutting a player releasing a player trading a player. So I think that you know, we'll go through the let's like I said some people still joining us live on YouTube. I'll go through this again. Like, I did with broth spur the five biggest pressure points for Mike Tomlin my opinion, number one. The fact that he missed the playoffs last year there seven two and one miss the playoffs. What come on come on? That's I don't care about that end of the season schedule. That's a bunch of bogus as bogus BS second one to perceived inability for him to not be able to control his players everything is going to be magnified this year for Tomlin in terms of how he controls a seem next the per se his perception amongst the NFL landscape, whether that's media players coaches, GM's, whatever is probably at an all time low period next ownership talking art, Rooney to second maybe even those minority owners of the team. They're probably reaching the end of their rope with him the seats probably warming up. And lastly is a heck of a lot easier to fire a coach than it is to fire a player. Get your brackets ready. March madness is here and the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage. CBS sports HQ CBS sports HQ is a free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. 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It's a with that said now, we get all of all of this stuff. We take all we digest it. What's the answer? The question. If you're in the live chat. Lemme now is who's who has more pressure on them? Is it Ben Rothlisberger the pressure to perform or is it might Tom on the pressure to not only just keep your job? But to get your team, right? Because your team isn't right hasn't been right. Hasn't been right for the last three seasons who has more pressure. For me. The answer is. Mike tomlin. I think it's my Tomlin Bardhan because it number one. So that my brother used always say we'd watch the Steelers. I remember watching the Steelers him back in the Tommy gun days. And there were some trying times for those ever, but Tommy Maddox era. And I say man, these guys suck, and as they, you know, just clean house, and I was get rid of them. He's at hey, you he's the first ago. That's a he's that he said that the coach. So why he's 'cause you can't fire all the players, and that's the trees, you can't fire all the players to sometimes the coaches escape goat. I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Tomlin if they have a bad season this year if things fall apart if the wheels fall off. Could be the scapegoat that's pressure. That's pressure. There's a lot of pressure on coach Tomlin and not that there's not a lot of pressure on bedrooms for absolutely there is, but I think by far the pressure is on Mike Tomlin to get the job done. It's going to be really interesting to watch. Now, if you have any questions, this is the point of this show where he ever burning question of your own. In your in the live chat could fire away. Now. Sometimes we have LeBron sixty or so people currently the that number's going up as more people. Tune in. Sometimes a lot of stuff is happening that live chat, and you might want. Your question answered. It says it saying it over and over again, we do have these super chat feature which is you can use any amount of money. I think it could even be something like fifty cents and you put an ad feature. And it'll keep your question highlighted. I will see it. I guarantee I'll answer it away to get your question answered if you have a burning question of your own. So let's get right to things of questions are starting to file in vodka drinker whose regular on our shows that the Bubby Brister era was more painful. Yeah. It was good old Bubby Bobby the guy that said when he came back to Pittsburgh. And he was interviews. And he said, it's it's tough. It's tough playing three were stadium right off that lake. Yikes. Three rivers stadium and their next to a lake good ole Bubby Brister beano a Bubby Brister wasn't the only quarterback era. That was tough to watch the Kordell Stewart air was tough talk about a ton of success just to collapse when it mattered most. The my Tom's Ag era was tough the Everett era was tough Tommy zero was tough shoot. Thank thank God for two thousand and four the eleventh overall pick ten Rothlisberger we've been spoiled folks, we really have been spoiled with Ben Rothlisberger. Hope you'll realize that. Okay. So we have some questions coming in here. Snowman ass will Ryan shazier ever play. Again. I get asked this question a lot in person when people see that I've a Steeler fan, or if they know that I worked for the editor of the website, and they read the website. And honestly, I I can't answer this question. I don't even want to guess because first and foremost, my I just hope he gets healthy. I hope he's able to walk without a limp and his gait who'd be able to run sprint. And then if he gets to that point where he can live in normal life, and he wants to play football who am I Jeff Harbin editor of said website behind the curtain dot com. Who am I to tell him what he should should do? Now. Do I think he'll play again? No, I just think physically he's not gonna have the tools to be able to play again. But if the thought of playing again, motivates him and gets him to attack his rehab with a fervor that he wouldn't have had if he knew that he would never play again, then let him then by all means don't squash. That hope you know. So everyone wants a definitive answer. I don't have one. But for me, my gut tells me he's not gonna play again. But if he can and he does I praise okay? But at the same time if he's at this I'm going to route and we're like crazy for him. You know? So there you have that. I mean, Ryan cheese years very unique case. All right. The next question Carlton s who will step up and be the the number two receiver. That's a good question. The the options are Dante Moncrieff James Washington and possibly a potential draft pick. I don't think there's going to be one clear cut number two. I. That that if if everything goes as planned James Washington shows a lot of progress. Dante Moncrieff is Liz up to the billing, and you have some slot receivers in Switzerland Rogers. He thrown a draft pick that can equal and their juju Smith Schuster who can be moved rounds very versatile. I think that brought us burgers spreads though ball around a lot. But if I were to guess, I'm. I want so bad to say James Washington. But I'm gonna say Dante Moncrieff, I think James Washington is a little bit more rough around the edges, but I think that ultimately he's going to be okay. He's going to be better. But I don't think he's going to be maybe this season. Okay. Let's hear cheer Darryl asked. You think the failure last year falls on ownership for their b team two thousand eighteen freeze and signings. I guess in in that regard. You're talking about they didn't really go out yet. Remember, darryl. They didn't have a lot of space because they franchise tag lady on Dell. So that allocated fourteen and a half million dollars towards him. And so they they didn't have the money to do much. They had to get bargained in players and people don't wanna hear that. I mean, they got Morgan Burnett. They got John bossy. Those were the two big names. And so. You can't really hate the team that they were hoping that lady on bellwood would show up and he didn't. But you know, what? Because he didn't they were able to actually go out and spend this time around, and that's how they get bogged Krief Nelson, Barron players that sign a lot of their own players to new contracts. So I just I understand your frustration. But at the same time, I also look at it and say that they didn't have any money to spend. So let's not go too far overboard with that Jerry cherry band as why does Shannon Sharpe hate Benza much. There's a lot of people that don't like Ben Rothlisberger. There's a lot of people that think that Ben Rothlisberger is pompous that been office burgers arrogant. Ben Rothlisberger literally is thinks he's kind of above the law in a lot of this stems from his behavior off the field. I think it was rothlisburger. Who was he was voted one of can't remember what website it might have been CBS sports. It might have. Been someone like the epic. It said Ben Rothlisberger was considered one of the worst. He mates in the NFL when you have that perception, it can kind of lead into different areas. So Shannon, Sharpe sound alone. As one of the guys that doesn't like Ben Rothlisberger. Okay. Andres is hot hot, see meter Tomlin. Danny Smith or Butler. I would say that if I'm doing the hot meter. I'd say Danny Smith is. Well, no check that Butler's is the hottest Danny Smith would be to Tomlin would be three. If on ranking those coaches there here, we go needs a good question. How do you see the run pass ratio next season in my 'have? If lands is listening. He will tell you what I would say. That's I I hope it's balanced. I hope it's not seventy percent pass thirty percent run. I would be happy and lands. And I said this before in our show, the standard is a standard shares on the on Sundays live on YouTube makes you check us out. We've said this wasn't we'd be happy with sixty forty. We realized that today's National Football League you're going to tend to throw the ball more than you run it, especially the Steelers so sixty forty I'd be happy with that. That's an even that's about as close to balance as you might get into what I hope not sure it's way, it's going to happen. Oh, let's see here. Someone has it surely in question about might tell come on people. Let's mature a little bit crazy Chris s with three or four decent receivers will the Steelers draft to defensive players back to back for the first two picks in the draft. Or would they go one defense offense? We'll Chris the thing is I don't there's no way of answering that question unless you know, how the chips are falling. So if. Both of the inside linebackers are going and there's a wide receiver the day field can be a day one starter. I would not be shocked to see them draft receiver in around one. It is all depends. Did they have their needs. I don't think there's you have to look at the board. So I don't think there's a cornerback in this draft that is worthy of number one pick their inside linebackers that he knows if they'll get their two twenty a message trait up, there's so many different factors. So many different variables. It's really tough. So oh areas says don't forget Markle out. I tried to forget more. Thank you very much. That's like saying don't forget about Neil O'Donnell can't stand. That guy. Can't believe I just said his navy. All right Chozas says everybody's trash talking, Dan. That'd be missing a lot of years when he retires. Hopefully, we don't revert to bobby's as. Can't cram. Good lord. You guys are bringing up some bad memories. I'll tell you that Jerry is bring on Mason Rudolph. Hey, if you listen to me talk at any of our shows, I have a big Mason Rudolph fan, and I really looking forward to seeing what he's going to be able to do it near to AVI, really disappointed. If he doesn't beat out Joshua Dobbs for that second quarterback spot because if he doesn't do that then. It's it's done. My dream is done. My dream of Mason Rudolph being the next guy after Ben Rothlisberger. If you can't be Joshua Dobbs for the backup quarterback spot in year. Two after you've got a year on your belt, then the project is done people might disagree with me. But it's done. I hope it doesn't happen because I'm rooting hard for him. I think he's a good kid. I think he has really mature beyond his years. He I've said this when he was drafted. He reminds me a lot of the way handles media. At least he reminds me a lot of Sidney Crosby. And if you've watched the penguins, and you see how he handles the media. He's always available super mature super polite ever. He's what you want in a quarterback. He's not going to say anything. Controversial. So you guys get me started on a Mason Rudolph you need to stop doing that. Because I'll go onto engines days go field. Co host of the Steelers preview says if Kaur was so much better than Tomlin. And they were all his players. Why did he win with them? That's great question. Dave because if you forget two thousand and three six and ten season. Which landed on the eleventh overall take which acquainted into Ben Rothlisberger. Everyone always remembers what they wanna remember. Okay. And I don't think people remember or want to remember how many times people wanted scour fired fire cower if there was a diverse Twitter back then my goodness. That would be a hash day. They would have trended how many times did he gets the AFC championship game in lose. At home. I mean, I could think of the game against the Broncos. I think about the patriots couple times. It's one of those things where you have to seriously say we remember cower for winning in two thousand and five. But do we remember cower for for losing in ninety five to remember him for all those failed seasons? Look I loved. Okay. Our he was the coach of the Steelers. I've really became a fan. It's I think everyone always kinda clings to that coach for crying out loud. Chuck Noll he won four in the seventies. But he didn't win after that. And he coach for a long time after that. So let's keep everything in perspective here people. It's a really good point by Dave see. So as big bend cancer his radio show. That was a report haven't heard anything definite on that. I'm surprised we haven't heard anything definite on that. Because I feel there's no doubting. We ran that story every other website like piney, so curtain ran that story pro football talk ran that story. In two ninety three seven the fan had. No, this it had his head every opportunity to jump out and say, this isn't true. We're still doing the show. And they did tells me there some some issues of if he stuff going on there. So let's hear. Donalds talking about Mason Rudolph. Here we go again, probably won't see action. I'm not saying he's going to see action. I hope he be is the backup quarterback. And if he can prove that he's worthy of of playing time when it comes to. They bend gets hurt. He steps any plays. Well, gives you a glimmer of what could come. I still think even if they keep if he doesn't start until year four of his career, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Matt Thomas is why do you think the team is meeting with seventy running backs before the draft? They're going to draft a running back. I I feel very confident that I think it's going to be at top draft need. But I think they're going to draft running back because they want to have someone that can complement James Connor, and Jalen Samuels and also to take the burden off of James Cotter to designed to carry the ball so much. I think that's really smart. They passed on a lot of veterans that were on free agent market. And I think a largely probably because they still want to get that compensatory draft pick for lady on Dell. So by doing so they're avoiding that they'll draft amid round running back hopefully pans out, and he can be the third and final peace to their stable of running backs. There you go. Let's hear is it possible to change Connor could lead the AFC and rush ABC's healthy absolutely with that's from Stephen with with this offense of line. No doubt about it in the office of line comes back intact. And they've got good depth. Right. Tackle is a question. Mark. That's about it. And if Matt filers your starter, we saw what he could do asked your I would expect he could do it again. I think he absolutely could if they stay healthy if he's as healthy seasonal Clark says do you think they'll fire Mike Tomlin if he starts Owen six hundred nineteen? No, they're not they're not the teen is gonna fire a cage midway through the year. Just not gonna happen. Let's see here. Steven Steven says, I hope I get by Mazen read after Zia. Yeah. I hope so to one day. Maybe right now, I only I only do Ben Rothlisberger jerseys right now. And so when Ben retires if may mazing revolves the guy I'll be wearing number to trust me. Joseph says, Jeff I agree because fan of Mason was a tough quarterback. I think we'll be in good shape when Ben retires. Yeah. It's gonna take time. I love to hear people criticize Rudolph, and they say, well, you know, he never took a snap under center. Okay. How many times have Rothlisberger? Tickets nap under center last year, not often. I want to say I saw a stat. Where about seventy percent of the of the plays run even run plays run in the shotgun. Formation sway. This offense is trending. So I think Mason real fit in just fine. Let's hear that's a good point someone's vodka drinker said about Shannon Sharpe. He played for the ravens. Let me. So he naturally is a disdain for the Steelers. I wouldn't be shocked. If that comes you know, comes into the way Billy says he's bringing up some bad memories. Now. I remember nineteen ninety-five Neal's interceptions nineteen Ninety-four Stan Humphries lucky passed ninety eight should have been Branca's doesn't one the block field goal and pitch back. I've never. Seen so much bad luck and leading champion of games. Tell me about it in ninety four. I could still tell you the past play that Neil O'Donnell. They've tried to throw to berry foster in the end zone and the rain against the chargers. And I remember the chargers got waxed by the forty Niners at year the Super Bowl ninety five obviously, the pissed by as I remember all those gains van awful, awful memories. Thanks for bringing that up. No, not appreciative of that. At all. It's a couple more. Here we call it a show. See here. Let's see. Can edna. Instead, we have a couple questions here. Good ones. Can drill Edmund step up as a question? That's a good question. I don't know. It's so tough for me to get beat on Terrell. Edmonds. I wasn't overly impressed with him last year. Not that he did make plays out that he's not capable. But man, I I just wanted to see so much more from him. So again, he's a player that you hope to see that year. One a year to jump. We've seen it in certain players like James Connor already. I would hope that he would be in better shape. He would have a better grasp of what the coaching staff is expecting of him and his position I would hope to see a big jump from your one year to even Troy Paulo Malu rookie year did do much year to is when he he started to see. Wow, this is this is a guy. This is a player. So someone asks will they replace Sean Davis in the draft. He's the weak link. I I don't see it that way. I don't think that I don't think he's a week thought he played well this first year free safety, and I don't think you'd expect much more from what he did. Did I don't see him as a weekly personally of oxygen grises who I see stepping up for death on pass rush. Yikes. Ally. Dania Anthony trick lower still there may be kion atoms. They carried three Outside Linebackers last year. Think about that. So with that said, you can expect what depre- to make it you can expect check to make because they they brought him back on two year deal in do they even keep for if you do keep for I think he'd be keep Ola dinghy. But at the same time, they don't have to didn't last year. So I don't know. So there you have it folks a lot of stuff going on. I thought this was a good show. I thought you guys were very really into with the question. I thought you guys did a good job helping me answer because there were some times where I look down at the live chat. 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10/11: Start or Sit (NFC); NYG-NE; Beat the Waiver Wire (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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10/11: Start or Sit (NFC); NYG-NE; Beat the Waiver Wire (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports got email us at fantasy football cbs I dot com take time to dominate your fantasy league of Cheney I was trying to find vp MVP. I couldn't find them anywhere on Youtube but you know who the is of fantasy football right you might hear some curse words if the Yankees win you feel like they're going to win the series Yes yes I do think that if they win tomorrow Yeah I do to the Patriots dominated on both sides of the ball the defense was outstanding the giants made a couple of fortuitous plays that helped them out and that's really about it I think people I can't imagine most twelve teams are larger or cutting him it's probably Tintin leaves and smaller just because you have dopey so Sherman people are pissed but that would be point the Astros and the gators are playing Lsu and we're probably both going to be in a very very bad but hey attention FCC Florida Beats Lsu. I think they're almost a lock for the football team the plus swimming they went out what were your takeaways from yesterday's game I actually wrote two scores in the notes I knew there's going to be slaughtered so I put a final score before the game started patriots thirty giants between Number One and number two at a position they have four point I it depends on scoring obviously but if you just go to like CBS sports fantasy stats page number one is New England they're four point I still see potential in him assuming that he's healthy assuming that the knee issue isn't something that's GonNa keep him sidelined for a long period of time yeah it's it's it's certainly frustrating thirteen and I wasn't that far off thirty five fourteen the final score what were your takeaways from yesterday's game it was pretty the game went pretty much as we expected it and people are ready to cut him they wanna spike cut them just chop mother roster right now find somebody else to put on their on their bench at least to replace him good I am looking good in my derrick jeeter shirts be second best. Dj in New York sports history. We'll talk about the best one in just are going to get impatient with Josh Gordon now because when he did play in the first half he really wasn't that involved in the offense the only one target and then he got hurt in the second half didn't play at all and four points per game better than the forty niners Christian McCaffrey has a bigger gap between him and Alvin Cook but yeah they had a huge I still think that if I can find Josh Gordon on the Waiver Wire and my league I'm GonNa Stash Him and see what happens I don't know if I'm going to start him if I'm picking him up off the waiver wire they're gonNA lose a Georgia so it'll be one loss but they'll have to two wins against two top ten teams that would be interesting Yeah Auburn all right let's get let's talk fantasy football here can you hear Tom Brady saying and after the game you know you can't watch the game and look and come away thinking this this is the typical patriots offense that we've seen time and time again ah there it is there's the interlocking n. y. very big big sports weekend Jamie and I are going to be on the air tomorrow night on CBS sports radio while the Yankees yeah the Patriots Defense the Patriots the all I was surprised to see that they do not have the biggest margin of fantasy points offense the offensive line just does not look good right now you know and it's we keep waiting for this Dante's Carnegie magic sort of pick kick in and Click for them and also Gordon getting hurt not a good thing he hasn't exactly been playing great filter sat not being they're not a good sign either you know he had really made some good moments and positive place dean that's an easy thing that you can make a move on for yourself inclined but look this office for New England doesn't look right it just doesn't look like they're clicking on all cylinders it does by the end of the season but right now you know Tom Brady looks whenever Brady looks comfortable in the pocket peepers go says time seeing ghosts you know it's like he feels pressure around stupid I mean I I I think it's you know in attempting league I could I can understand it if you have a you know Terry McLaren was available in a couple of leagues is that that is that's not there yet and I saw that last night tremendously like you know he he gets just a little bit of pressure around him and all of a sudden like he's getting happy feet you know thankfully he's still got the two rushing touchdown for the most part I'm willing to mostly throughout the buffalo game although I was surprised at just how bad they were but look but it's the last two games they just haven't looked good well okay I mean that's fair hasn't gave you some good production but it just does not look like the same patriots offense right now I'm a little surprised that take you know it doesn't look right and they have faced pretty easy tv they haven't looked good in the first half I think the wind if you didn't watch the game last night the wind was obviously having an affect brady's interception was weird he just he missed so badly missile throw on the sideline so bad so the wind appear to have an effect on Tom Brady the conditions weren't great but the bottom line is I mean he's got twenty one or more fantasy points in five of games he's got twenty eight hundred three six that's where fantasy and reality don't Mesh because you're not counting on Tom Brady rushed for two touchdowns to be a reporter I'm thrilled that you got to the twenty plus fantasy points and that's the saving grace is that you know when you have good players or great players in this case that you have expectations for them my expectation the higher you WANNA sell no I don't think it's a self situation because again this is the floor so I still home it with patriots giants what's going on David Jamie how are we feeling can you can you all manage three hundred thirty four yards I mean he's seventy five percent of his pat but it's just it doesn't look the same way that you're used to seeing him perform and so there's a a a ceiling that's not there yet plus you know they're they're still going to be a team that's going to be aggressive and making a move so if if they can feel know Howard from the box if they could steal Aj green from the they he he did look uncomfortable he seemed out of sync early on I think the offense really started to kick into a better gear toward the second half maybe toward the fourth quarter more than any I think a ceiling net brady can get to plus when they probably do play some tougher opponents while it's not exactly good thing maybe the focus is different maybe the the the performance is different just because but at the same time you know this is usually the point where they start to peak and that's the hope that you're getting at this point forward is that this is when the offense starts to click you know the defenses carry them he said as much else but didn't didn't look perfect in the game and it goes kind of speaks to the you know the personnel continuing to change from retirement to all the yeah they brought into Antonio Brown he has to raise his game and he typically does in those situations so I it's it's not a abandoned Tom Brady conversations just more like you watch them you just can't come away saying that they look the same patriots yeah but and again I think when door said is back and if Gordon's right and I still do have faith that he knows Karnicki has turned offensive lines around before they haven't exactly look good so there's still small point these pets go Adam we we don't do them very often but when we do they always end up being very very close closer than people think that they are well the giants obviously were depleted didn't didn't have much of a chance I do wonder if you think it's worth holding onto Daniel Jones with Arizona with Patrick Patterson Patrick Peterson's back Arizona next week at home at hope he has all of his weapons well we got to talk about the Patriots running backs I don't think we really have to talk about the giants other than to say heath is GonNa look really good in the garments you don't say angles that would not shock me at all that they go out and spend some draft capital go get one of those plagues I just don't think the the Vikings seem inclined to move dependent if if they pony up for never touchdown overturn but specifically Sony Michelle where are you on Michelle right now and then we will start talking about the rest of the Games I think I think Sony Michelle is so that he had three fantasy points and pr right decimal scoring so we'd like like three point eight three point five Davison please let it come down to about Sony Michelle who had twenty two carries for eighty six yards he had twenty eight rushing yards on the final drive he now has five catches in his last two games they are making a concerted effort to get him the ball in the passing game but Brandon bolden got the goal line touchdown. Tom Brady had to quarterback sneaks with yeah but that's the F. Right we don't know whatever ingram status is when you sir sprained MC L. I don't think the fact that he practiced on a limited really limited basis battles so let's just lay it out it was fantasy Boyd's John Hillerman for heath versus Jordan Howard for Dave and Hillman he fumbled they need him back startling shepherd we don't know when he's coming back as the concussion and Saquon we think he's coming back but that just mean that they run a lot more so wrap it up by talking to me now in the game on both of them and then James White just James White is at eleven thirteen fantasy points in every game so I think we basically know what to expect Dylan Okay number two fantasy running back I think I know what's going on with the goal line work is that on the first drive of the game yet a third one didn't convert it the game of for them one didn't convert that either Situation Dorset being hurt Gordon leaving the game it's it's it's not all on I mean bombards not on bringing you know so I think there's a ceiling that he can still get to he's five for nine on one yard closer so again it's not ideal they'd probably like they'd love him to be nine for nine but I think the fact that he wasn't converting early in the game and that's always been a problem with Sony Michelle I talked about it during draft season and it's one of the reasons why they got Damian Harris was Harris can convert those short yardage plays and so I you know what will happen when they're fully healthy most likely bolden goes back to being just a special teamer and birkhead takes on those snaps but as long as rex made them scared to use him at the goal line that's why bolden guy he didn't even get a carried on their bold and got the opportunities Brady got the opportunities as long as he keeps getting catching look this season he's actually nine of sixteen on down three yards and closer it's pretty good average I'd say it's a little above five hundred like it to be a little higher but for him that's pretty good and the jets can be tough for C. J. Moseley's back densely on the road yet but they've got a hard time well after the game by overall outlook because we know prior to birkhead going down it was are they starting to make the switch maybe using rex burkhead a little bit more so I think that's a little bit of a concern for Michelle is offs you gotta get there first but we fourteen Kansas City at home we fifteen cincinnati on the road week sixty your championship hold judgment on that I wanna see the jets on Sunday all right after the Ravens Games it's a buy and then it's at Philadelphia and you're actually Tom Brady doesn't have great history at the jets that's coming up we schedule does get a lot James Connor Oss necker very nervous about James Cotter why do you think he set up for a big game while I mean the run defense for the save for the bills game mailbag is Saturday recording it today with Ben Gretch so make sure you tune into that got a lot of your questions of fantasy football. CBS Dot Com then he didn't practice like he started to and then he didn't I thought he'd prices on them and now no he ended the week not practicing and maybe that's just because they knew that they're gonNA shut down for the shore we gotta wait and see but yet hello at home but still weeks fourteen to fifteen could be huge all right guys yeah that that home dolphins game in week seventeen oh it's a killer if you don't believe in two weeks with the bills ask a question Hash Hashtag ask F. T. you can follow us on twitter and see when we're kind of answering questions but this allows us to easily identify questions for you ask there are other prizes as well so download the CBS sports APP or go to CBS sports dot com slash parlay and take your shot at a million bucks six games another way to get your questions answered is on twitter we're doing Hashtag ask F. F. T. had a great time with this weekend Saturday and Sunday just it could be obvious that's fine but tell me one player setup for a big Game Pittsburgh at the chargers is the one AFC game we got today Pittsburgh at the chargers chargers look awful last week and without Samuels there I don't think they'll go all son give benny smell all of this work it's just lean on their ground game don't Botha's you today real quick overview of them guys just want you to tell me one player that you think is set up for a big game in these six contests hopefully we have one in each concert ain't put the bills in week seventeen and the dolphins at sixteen All right Roger Goodell see if I see a big game for Julian Edelman he's been awesome whenever Antonio Brown hasn't been there we'll talk about Brown and edmunds in just a second Detroit Green Bay around Johnson it's a good one uh-huh slash parlay and submit your parlay card and once you're done you're immediately in contention for big time cash prizes including chance at one million dollars if you hit it perfect parlay he's got a great match up Atlanta Arizona Matt Ryan Kyle Ties Right allers started the weekend yeah baby wall much more on that in a little bit Carolina Tampa Bay Carolina Tampa Bay who's WHO's set up for big game McCaffrey Not Hashtag Ask F. F. T. and then if you WANNA minute win a million dollars on CBS sports dot Com you can play parlay pick them down the CBS sports APP or go to CBS SPORTS DOT com. So I'll I'll go way less obvious Godwin Comma Chris Greg Olsen setup for big game that's a good one I was Evans it's as tough as the schedules going to be for the Patriots through the first half of the season this game will be off Brandon Williams right and continues to be out I think Michelle's fine you know you'd have to keep an eye on that I I'd put them in the cell high category if you can trade him for I was about to say he's got the jets than the browns and the What about Stafford staffers going I think both Rogers Stafford is such a great history against each other having a bad match up over him Baker obviously thinks sure okay and then Philadelphia Minnesota is there anyone really what they're doing is taking chances with cousins well I think you know we talked about this when the bears played the Vikings couple of weeks ago these teams that have great run defenses actually ten is in twenty plus carries a game you can use them as a number that or no is that the last two games with the five catches there's no wrecks bucket and so if birkhead is playing what does that do for Michelle it almost certainly out so but was it just like all the buys part of that you know and just some you know like when all right San Francisco in the Rams I think Robin Woods all right I hope Mitt the jets was the only exception so yeah that's kind of what I was thinking as well so I mean that could be very relevant for your Fan Duel Team Right and listen you want to Kim in the passing game so I think this could best game today easy game plan for their third string quarterback to lean on Connor? Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I'm very nervous I'm the I'm nervous that they won't have the to get started and you'll get an extra five dollars site credit every week for four four weeks go to fan duel dot com slash F F t band with dot com slash F. F. T. or download the ground game tough to us with Cook against the defense and the secondary so beat up that That they take chances with the Lenin digs downfield daily fantasy I love DFS because you have to worry about injuries and busts ending your season you got a chance to win millions of dollars you pick a new team every week you could pick fifty I don't know I think I hope for selfish reasons because I have three leagues with Malcolm Brown could be a great run defense that they're facing but we'll see if you don't mind me taking to Adam Feelin and Stefan digs yeah that's up to you whether or not you've got the confidence to go with digs but I think Minnesota will find the possibility to have a waiver wire starter where would you rank them Edmonds would-be top twelve and Brown would be closer to fifty order after the bottom well yes and no reason to sell high on the Patriots the if you can and you can't conform now I will say their fantasy okay I'll nbs more so than alison just because the big play upside that he has I was just checking to see if Darius slay practice on Thursday he did of course I submitted my fan will line up for our league fan will dot com slash leagues slash F F T please join it's five dollars that's it vanwall.com every week whatever you want you can play for a buck and play for a lot more there's a contest out there for everybody so sign up right now get twenty dollars total bonus just make your first deposit of twenty we'll go a little lower than that and say edmunds top fifteen and Brown would be top twenty okay but big opportunities here devante atoms unlikely start it's Edmund and would you rank both where would you rank both of them if they play and we are previewing those two games today but this is this is the big story right now I think you see a lot of pass attempts and the Eagles see the fourth most pass attempts in football and they've allowed a hundred yards to a wide receiver and four or five games last week again right yes as and Alvin Kamara yes Mason Rudolph has chance to play right now we're thinking no but he has a chance that setup for a big game Jordan Howard good points that's all he needs he the fans will app so todd Gurley and David Johnson missed practice both Malcolm Brown and chase edmunds are available in about I think about forty five percent of league hey this week are you avoiding MVS and Allison is they really disappointed last week or more optimistic there number three receivers oh Christian well he's got the toughest matchup of anybody he had a bad game against Tampa Bay surprises that's true Tama basement top against the Ron guess what you're going to start him anyway okay Greg so there are about fifty five percent owned who do you like better Malcolm Brown or chase Edmunds Brown against the niners edmonds against the Falcons looming both it's twenty dollar deposit and you get twenty dollars and site credit five dollars per week for four weeks you can use that to join our contests are more ways to win than ever I love slash league slash F F T before you go to that url take out the word league and go to fan will dot com slash F F and you can get basically five dollars every week the Alvin Kamara David Johnson situation when they were rookies yeah I had that thought to actually put in a bid was on a limited basis but he was limited the last time that they were practising for game and he didn't play I think it would make the match better if he didn't play although the Lions there last Ajay Howard's time is coming what did that mean to you he's like seventy three percent on right now Jay Howard they're trading the concussion protocol Washington could feature Adrian Peterson this week according to reports at Miami so interested in Peter Miss I'd probably avoid them in daily right what else we got a garter men's shoe has a minor groin soreness no big deal Mark Brown missed practice do we think markey's Brown is going to play against the see if he gets into limited practice on Friday he doesn't practice on Friday I would expect him to be no better than a game time call Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Byron left which said you're Henderson I don't know if I got him I've been checked in our podcast league but right like the just you know if big work comes available those guys Oh keep them okay fair enough or or Adam maybe they have they have a bye after this week right yeah right Chris earned and expected to miss the next two games in terms of fancy points Primetime Game Okay top twelve guys yeah I was I think I was a touch surprise you guys had rogers in your top twelve with Adams get get it basically Kamara was when they traded peterson is rookie season and then all of a sudden it was like you know he became a monster and L. settle for four who said for came yeah I think you're okay like I got I got two guys with David Johnson that was sort of thing on a lesser scale just because it took a while for the cardinals realized how good he is and you deserve more work she didn't have the blow up rookie season like like Martin Week Jalen Ramsey could play this week if Ramsey plays it doesn't really change much right 'cause you have bridgewater around twentieth right now we're GonNa Start Michael Thomas just be downgraded ago I mean they the the report we actually full go and practice so always got to get the clearance and he'll be out there Sammy Watkins yes or no not at this point we're in the three hundred there's probably a good chance is GonNa be on Julio Jones Limited in practice were ranking him we expect him to play Chris Carson Limited with a shoulder injury we expect Chris Carson name their defense played well can patrick mahomes out of the end zone yeah but he started three hundred yards though still kept him out of the end zone you know they they played well but you say bengals Liz has kind of been the norm right he typically Mrs at least one day practice each week but he did have the ankle injury came back from in their last game they let James at the ball the only time those connected I guess so all right so you're not thinking I think it means if you have an open roster spot and you still have okay Gotcha Jamal Williams is gonNA play Brandin Cooks expected to play Cincinnati is not going to trade Aj Green according to the bengals of door set could be back next everybody welcome to the Friday edition benefit football today I'm very excited for today's show I think we've got a lot of FUN Games to review I'm in a great mood I feel and And Robert Kraft Wants Rob Gronkowski to return and watching watching him on Fox yesterday like Tony Gonzalez looks like he is ready ready to come back than Rob Gronkowski that he's GonNa play baseball he caught up yeah he caught a ball at his game that was awesome this half air handed and it was cooled after Henry was limited in practice that we think he plays no but it would be awesome if he did take on the way back same same question. TJ Hopkinson he sounds like he's around if they got the chance for sure what he behind Darrell Henderson if girly were out no no Henderson is more of a Dr grow at this point better NPR than non popular. Oh let's see we got we'll Brinson floated a theory which I thought was interesting that this is Zain Mann starter you know probably more of a flex than must archive but you know certainly okay certainly he'd be behind Edmonds Ski Raw Greg has nothing but compared to rock you know all right we're just about ready to get into the Games let's right yeah there you go yeah he's in my phantom which one the one for F. F. T. no no no yeah some starts it or flex it best Mike Evans Against Carolina in London I'll say flex at best I Curley Adam number two receiver and I'm not very comfortable with it I agree I think he's a flex it best took top track record against the panthers and Carolina's a good formula for scored more fantasy points against those teams than any other quarterback that's faced them so so far so the last two weeks without Aj Green it was Robert Woods was my next one starts sitter flex the best he's still start pretty much covered everybody in this segment Green Bay wide receivers or flexes his first productions good I three weeks he faced I forget Seattle Seattle Buffalo in San Francisco Seattle San Francisco Buffalo next week Jimmy Garoppolo at Washington is eighty three percent owned but I thought I put it in their Gardner Minhsiu Cincinnati. I don't know how much we like Andy Dalton against the backs the Stash I got Ito's Smith and Jamaal Williams have been talking about them they could get bigger roles particularly Ito Smith that just hasn't been like this mad rush of injuries not start Gordon over him in non pr not start over him Gotcha okay his his fantasy points in his last five meetings against the panthers ars Aj Greens making some progress here so like do you think Andy Dalton is just in general a guy to stash if you can awesome John Ross so my thought was he's got John Ross who looks like a thing and he's GonNa get Aj greenback and he's got he's got the best weapons he's ever had and I thought the schedule wasn't okay that's all I got those are the later the games were previewing later in the show let's beat the waiver wire you looking for a quarterback for but just in general Kobe's Lee against Miami San Francisco guys at Washington I'm kind of thinking more long term here with the jets and the niners but DD CINCINNATI eleven seventeen to eight ten and only one game with more than sixty one yards all right starts sitter flexible best brandin cooks against San Francisco start is obviously but for the most part he'll be started until team would you start both chargers running backs over Mike Evans Yeah NPR did he clear the concussion protocol is suing yes yeah you'll start him okay seventy or more yards in eight of his last ten regular season home games in the hope would be that no Ramsey because of Ramsey's out and Aj Greens back then and don't great star I guess I meant more from like thankfully at that position like Wayne Wang Almond so far has been the best free agent avenues a one-week situation well todd Gurley David Johnson might not play this week yeah no big deal I mean you know what he would say right now we got two new ones from yesterday he would say either or certainly would change things but I mean just in terms of the first five weeks of the season we haven't had that belief that guy what are you faxing putting Kyw Bosch out there good and Gerald quarterbacks what's what's Josh Allens ownership out now because people dropped him I didn't think about him I don't yeah it's he's Miami at Home Philly at home yeah so yeah I did think that Andy Dalton was going to be kind of a League winner for people I don't feel that way anymore because I don't know about Aj Greens health and they don't have John Ross so but you can still be a streamer sure we're GONNA start not a bad match up for him any other Eagle I think alshon is a is closer to set in a flex united set him I'd sit Wentz I what is very breathy but those are those are some good ones Wide Receivers Dede Westbrook at Cincinnati. The jets guys I don't know not next week against you're hanging onto Josh Allen Wow Green Bay San Francisco's DSP at Washington that's the one if they're available get them they one of the best football so far August Josh Allens but he's definitely going to be available that's a good one Josh Allen against Miami Green Bay it's only at sixty seven okay yeah right he could be the game is not exactly the Jaguars game is not ideal but you know again there's there's circumstances that could happen if if there's no Jalen Ramsey and doug age agreeing back then that I would say yes I run the forty niners against the redskins definitely to target all right what do we got I can't use the following teams giants box seahawks is cardinals that's Atlanta Houston so do it I don't what do I have I don't even it Steph Digs Adam Phelan star Texas Yep any Eagle at Minnesota other than Zach Ertz it's not as much as running backs and receivers that's harder but quarterbacks and TST's their muscles renewable take advantage of of the guys that are available right now so minhsiu against the bengals best of season perspective well I mean there was somebody that said a few weeks ago and he's been winning your fancy did you know that the premise of that was he was playing pretty well like I said yesterday on the show doc I had one league where I had a raw spot to play with him I figure you know let me just carry two. DST's I picked him to be honest I've actually used this segment it's helped me with quarterbacks what do you do do do do Miami Washington now and I gotTa do is get five guys to be good five guys maclaurin the quarterback and I'll tell you what if you're bold enough to take that game I say that we can reset all the teams you cannot yeah come on week after that he don't use for three weeks now I don't have good options here like I really don't the best I think I could do it'd be like San Francisco and the Rams Baltimore Cincinnati let's go with this week. This week's bonanza it was it should be Arizona Atlanta but that games off the Ford going to be all right I think you're in trouble though the forty nine or side of things 'cause you you don't have any guaranteed guys outside of really kill do it do the tangle I've I've honestly not ready for this segment all right like if you I'll tell you what running-backs coleman come on Coleman come through this all right let's let's talk a little bit about seek real quick you know ticketing websites sometimes they make it so a lot of these Games are off the board I could do Pittsburgh and the chargers but no could do lions packers all right here we go I'm going to start so where San Francisco Rams Yeah Dumdum Dad I'm bound okay which which which is the assuming what's he's going to put the bananas on that he doesn't get out of his self imposed rule no it's only it's only for right now like you can't use Washington Miami next week but then he also whoever uses the he needs to be good Garoppolo I think is going to end up with twenty two ish fantasy points out put them in the top ten and and then it comes down to is fully guaranteed so again download the seekie gap use the Promo Code F F T get ten bucks off your first purchase that is Promo Code F F T for ten the best we've been sponsored by seek for a few years now and I just started using it when they started sponsoring us and I haven't stopped and I tell people about it off the air and I tell people about it on the air save ten bucks on your first purchase Promo code is F F T for ten bucks off your first purchase on Seatgeek they bring in millions of tickets from all over the place when I and I think I mentioned this yesterday but they have faced teams that rang steelers faced one two four and seven in time of possession so far and they have because I'm wondering if it was completely inflated by the Dolphins Game Right I will I can't imagine that they had very much right Baltimore New England also played the dolphins issue honor and everything else NPR connor you like Connor better than Gordon yes yep this is a guy who has not had more than sixty five Russian older injury so it's like a lack of weapons and a lack of you know strong quarterback play is gonNA lend itself to this team not playing at the level that anybody expected but even you know from a respectable mostly that dolphins game which is really crazy that one game would thirty seven minutes and last week against the broncos bucks off your first seatgeek purchase Pittsburgh at the chargers stat of the game chargers from third in the NFL and time of possession Pittsburgh is thirty and finding the end zone and you just have to say like let's ride James Connors much as we can yeah I'll tell you what I think they're offensive line is fine it's played the yards ten straight games it's coming because he's GonNa get a lot of work we know that Jalen Samuels isn't GonNa play and like we talked about earlier Benny Snell probably so for the customers but not seek they really care about the customers customer satisfaction is so high on seatgeek the reviews are amazing and I can tell you personally is really is talk about the steelers right James Connor or Melvin Gore who's the best running back in this game that's a good place to start Ecuadoran PR connor they have one of the worst offenses in football right and in theory yes I mean you know it's it's a situation of you know the offensive line played I don't think I feel that way genuinely in my heart Adam I think Juju has the chance at a better game particularly NPR would you start Stefan digs or Juju Smith Schuster recommend it to everybody and all my friends now my family members they already have the CD Gab I say oh you seeking the atom shut up already have seek so listen you need to do it to you. The beginning of the season was atrocious they did not play Villanueva was not having a good start to the you know so they're they're they're playing better but it's also goes hand in hand with the quarterback you know I mean you girlies out who's the best running back in the Game Brown yeah I agree with you and just see if if if people started that way yeah I I think this game I think this game's him as a trigger guy I was a wildcats I agree totally but if they you know figure we gotta get hodges off the field in any extent look at an event you're not just getting from one place you're getting CB seek brings him in from other sources so you're going to get great prices and they're going to show you where the great values are and every purchase the pretty bad in terms of total yardage and all four of those games now they're facing the team that's third time possession who do you have a breakdown of the chargers time possession by game I was just thinking that fifteen plus yard in the bucket throws down the sideline I think that they can get guys open inside a fifteen yards and have hodges hit him there I think he going to get a ton of touches might get six or seven and the rest can go to connor and connor can make plays in the passing game as well so I I think that he's got a good shot at getting good yards hodges may have not a better arm than Rudolf but may have the ability to go downfield a little bit more than Rudolph and I would hope standpoint given what the the majority leaves all right so I think we'll start with the steelers then and as I look at the time of possession yeah deep lay I think that's what you're going to see I mean just a matter of what they what how much they trust hodges you know it could be a situation where we had Evan Washburn on on the show with us the NFL sideline reporter CBS and he spent some time with Pittsburgh in in training camp and you know he's he said the people that that he spoke to there was that Shuster okay I'm put put what if what if hodges this at quarterback that's I'm counting on ear and San Francisco played Cleveland but I think I think they're the Jibbidy you look at them right now if if they have their third string quarterback going on the ground there's GonNa be some interesting. DFS quarterback plays this week from hodges to keenum to Rosen guys that you would never expect that is charges are allowing four point nine yards per carry running backs and I think what gives me more faith I'm sure you as well and James Connor is that he's should be more involved in the passing game last week it didn't have a catch but Samuel Oh and they're still I I liked the author Johnson but you know I think you're talking about him is not exactly the most ideal second receiver Vance McDonald has been in and out of the lineup because the as quarterbacks as much as they've had because of the injuries and it's like okay where's the guy sliding to where's the protection undergo you know the the the calls are different so it all sort of works and and it's true it looks like a pretty good match go to do some weird things and the one game that they want it was because the wildcat was working who knows just how do you feel about you I think he is Hasim week four points behind the next Guy Okay Philip rivers we talked about yesterday Jamie's got him fourteenth day the eighteenth and houses out so I mean you gotTa figure he's going to get some catches to right yes that'd be the whole okay how do they get get creative with the wildcat is it going to be that hodges ran a little bit at Samford I'm looking at his college numbers right now ran last week a little bit yeah yeah he will take off and run yet seventeen touchdowns in forty five games the chargers defense you know without Ingram and we'll find out this perryman playing I haven't seen anything in terms of himself but he limped off the field last week and we know he's been sort of banged up all season long I think he's eight number two receiver that similar Mike Evans that most likely you start by default yeah well who do you like better Evans or Juju Juju better I think I've Evans ranked higher and yeah no it was the dolphins game so you know what thank you for bringing that up new stat of the game time of possession is okay the todd Gurley play against Denver but hopefully he's better shook off some rust here so you said you guys like Connor better than than Gordon huge problem all the way around for the charges it's going to hurt them when they try and run the ball and I think the steelers defense has played a lot better since they make fitzpatrick it's what I thought would happen and it has happened they just didn't trust him to the same level to manage the game as they did with Rudolf so it could be situation where he's a little bit more of a wild card and that can help you know the one concern with I just still think it'll be all right I know that you just Mr is I thought it was okay coming in last week I don't think they're going to ask them to make a bunch of you know with Juju is Casey Hayward travel with him and so if that's the case then it can be a little boats offer matter okay it's worth looking into seeing if hayward will go into the slot it's also worth noting if they give you just respectable numbers and you have a great team around them you're going to have a lot of chances to win in whenever tournament play in but you know how this is going to make some place here I don't I don't think this for catches last week you know but it's also the match up in you know hoping that the the game that we saw last where they clicked a little bit Gordon forecast right right steelers have been kind of up and down against the run they're currently allowing just three point nine five yards carrying a running back so last week Gordon had he twelfth so he's not a great start Philip Rivers offensive line's beat up Pittsburgh that's a huge problem it's is the chance for I think the steelers offense surprisingly to potentially get right paramedic he had full practice both days this week so Vance McDonald Heath has Vance McDonald eighteen backs I'll take charge me I will to do we like or love Keenan Allen this week love it's love and you guys have him tenth and Heath would be like Oh why muted it sorry muted Heath's Yes for sure and I think I'll take Phelan a non PR's well the thing about feeling NPR is that like feeling doesn't really catch that many passes and Gordon did undo that okay I don't think he's and you know it's almost like they're going to go back to what they had with Mason Rudolph when Rudolph I came in a lot of dinking Lada dunking the occasional connector right but pr all right We'll compare these guys to some others how about Adam feeling or Melvin Gordon Walker he'd be he right behind the Disley Mark Andrews cut off of the seven Acre depending on what format looking cool all right so our next game is Woodham in your captain spot you shouldn't even have in your showdown lineup I think the thing about him is that you're GonNa get rivers going back to being rivers again last week by default like he's still a top twelve receiver but I don't think he's a top five guy I don't think he's a good daily play I'm not going to oh you still have yeah it's hopefully he catches four passes and one of the touchdown I liked MacDonald but my projections carries accurate. Three Gordon actually had four catches the only one for seven yards and Ecuador had fifteen and when I look at Melvin Gordon's numbers twelve for thirty one in four for seven receivers to score eight or more fantasy points in non pr that's a pretty good game in the same game four straight weeks including Samuel join me every day wherever you get your podcast going over to London for Carolina Tampa Bay the box have allowed multiple towns and he hasn't scored yet this season but he's coming off a game where he's got a career high and targets and catches so like and were downgrading he's two games with double digit PR points where are you going and I I think the best way for Philip rivers to really make plays is going to be the lean on Austin Ecuador like he did last week I could see ecological time catching both the the cousins and deal and carries over they were they were close two weeks ago they clicked last week they're going to need to click this week how about Juju versus the chargers running Mari I made this Ma this competition on the video show that we were hopeful that Williams would get more catches and more yards to sort of support the hunter Henry if he plays fifty five percent on top twelve yeah by default guarantee would you rank them ahead of Vance McDonald Yes yup okay headed percent own starter set Mike Williams he said four bad games in a row said well he had a seventy four yard six for seventy four last week but I think it's more we're back to shies away from challenging corners a couple of weeks for Keenan right yeah yeah he said too bad games in a row I had moved on to Mike Williams Eighty Carolina Tampa Bay what we're GonNa do now and move over to our audio room from the video studio I'll be watching it youtube dot com slash fantasy football today you know what you'll see you won't see are pretty faces Alan could be tired of missing the throws with Samuel and we'll try to just lean more on the easier targets with Dj more and more when Cam Newton through I think fifty three passes back and we do this is the first rematch of the season by the way so are both Carolina wide receivers and play this week I like or better than Samuel he's been more efficient over the last three weeks and it's not necessarily a matchup type thing I think it's more like Kyle Gotcha which quarterback better in this game Kyle Allen or Jameis Winston James Kyle Yeah I could see a case for both aim flow and just how many how often they need him to throw the football you know how I feel about Andy Dalton right I made that pretty clear this week Oh yeah yeah yeah weird that he typically does not shy away from challenging matchups and he went away from Chris Harris and that secondary did he have time but update today on Dental pyramid but he just hasn't had that much of an impact that's what I'm saying like the the the guys that don't know James the charges so beat up that okay and are how would you compare them to Juju moreover Georgia I believe moreover Juju both ahead of Samuel I think it I think it'll be okay for Godwin I don't think it'll be great for anybody else I just in my mind I've got to start thinking Mike Evans even more than this those type routes that you have to worry about timing you know he's all over the field you know so typically they don't necessarily worry about that it was a very anti rivers Tequila game like he's not the type I'll start Dalton over both these guys easy because I just I think that they both have canelo upside Jamison track record against Carolina isn't good his offense anymore but you will get the rest of the show we'll be right back to get to the next five games what's up everybody picks podcasts here. CBS Sports is daily not a great start but still a volume will certainly be in his favor. I think you know we we've seen some flaws in the Carolina defense because the injuries the last couple of games so had make your case I think James can give you similar games what you got last week Um you know where he sort of cobbled together around twenty two twenty two fantasy points so I'll go Evans Okay Evans. Dj More Sorry Evans Curtis Samuel I'll take line is beat up bad the whole right side of that line will have backups playing and I think Carolina's defense is actually pretty good. I'm expecting James to have a rough game ars the first quarterback I throw for more than two hundred eight yards against the panthers. They've really have shown some vulnerabilities though against the run with Cohen Short out they've been pretty right we're good I mean you could make a case for the Panthers Defense Yeah Okay no I prefer not to. I don't feel really good about either their chances to be reliable there by week replacement running backs I think that's about the parts Greg Olsen and OJ Howard startles and sit Howard that'll work okay so that it for this game zinc take Evans okay now I'm reevaluating it on the fly well now I'll ask. Dj Mike Evans Moore Okay Gawain McCaffrey must star I'm going I don't know if it's going to be all

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154: HIGH STAKES, LOW TACTICS: Election endgame

Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

57:43 min | 1 year ago

154: HIGH STAKES, LOW TACTICS: Election endgame

"Hello welcome to remain the AX. We have he's slightly tired out podcast. This week as we're also recovering from almost ambitious live show yet a two part Christmas special featuring eight of our regular some of whom you can hear muttering in the background there. It was the first time we'd all be on stage together and we try to keep spirits of Jauregui dispersing week cuckoo. Hopefully we can do that as well. Thanks to everybody who came out. Hopefully we'll see awesome. We add on next show. Enlisted Square appalled callups now still hoped pronounce on the seventeenth of December. I'm Andrew Harrison and currently uncles to break the record for longest part of jet lag in human history having hid in America for the past week this week. I'm joined by in sitting differences for change. Doreen Linski he's being a Palestinian presents for one week only hollow Dorian. How you doing hello? It's it's weird here. Joe The live show I did I particularly George Quizzes. We do all cuisines in fact. Nothing but DOC quizzes. You'll become a quiz show your quiz questions with to haul a rather we would too stupid to get answers they were. They were educational and entertaining. They were entertaining naming. They were agitating almost also with us. Ingrid Oliver is an actor director and a few weeks ago said she was this close to during a big cock and balls Zano ballot paper instead of voting. Hello how you doing. I'm actually I got my My post-soviet three this morning. 'cause I'm going to be in South Africa for the actual election so I've got it so I did. You've actually my pan way over the top of their. I'm not gonNA cockles now. Japan wobble. Well maybe I realized what I'm basing. I'm basing flipped Madame Montana but I because I'm in a safe Labor seat but I agree with reverse policy so I'm very I'm basing rhythm there. Yeah option which feels weird's making the best of a bad jobs? Yeah recurrent theme at the moment. Yeah Yeah but you know you've got to do something by Tony. The strange thing is we've got to autopsy this week but in terms of the election itself insanely not that much is happening. It's like Simpson is like I think an pointed out Elliot's tonight it's it's like full wolf on the fifth of the BBC is this symbol tenuously the most important and yet boring campaign of it What isn't doing for me because my mother might win seats? No no say personally quite a lot going on I mean yeah they seem to be sort of pointing they seem to be hiding getting Boris Johnson. Out of the way and source of just going for damage-limitation not hoping they just get through say there's not a huge amount but only when you have one two years ago so what else struggle leave them. It's like the walkaway nothing to see here election. Yeah but gift of Frank Drab from from You know play while. There's a building exploding behind please. The police clip well I. I'm really curious to see whether whether the turnout is going to be significantly lower than it was an one NAS or if people aren't actually we just feel we are. Yeah that's what it is. It's possibly at speaking of campaigning this week. And Duncan Smith. I was brought in for coffee tea by Labour voters so they could keep him in there for forty five minutes. He they couldn't anymore houses that monty python sketch. What is a room full of milk men that have been kidnapped? This is a brilliant idea. She'll be people up and down the country. It's not your Mama shouldn't be shopping open. You'll mom for compensation for Sean. We should be getting a local conservative. Cut them looked look in the mirror with Bourbon Biscuit. I'm sure yeah so nice. Shorts possibly legal but you. It certainly helps the Tories. The if you don't have a conversation then duncan-smith story fine. Don't get out there in. What the doors pound the pavement? Yeah I'd have him. I just be injecting amphetamines interest. Twenty seven getting on everyone's nerves says an johny turning the seat read into the violent imagery quickly this week from fifty minutes lawsuit. That is the voice of Don's editor politics DOT UK author of how to be a liberal. You can order it now in tons give your loved ones a card for Christmas and they're not GonNa get it until May twenty two finished it as a star wars to a voucher shah for a plastic Boba. Fett you enjoy the live show didn't you did. It was trying to good form. At what did you make of Jeremy Jacket this week with the little kind of the brought the incentive for the many not the few in piping I know you don't want I mean obviously it would have his This fucking pulling at least reminiscent of his trustworthy. The freeze fucking. Bother me like it's quite an annoying because I know what you're going for you know the few is supposed to be the auditor because apparently people that fucking fucking exist. He literally said Yes. A country billionaires in the pool that's over simplified that many billionaires that was is not jumped on by literally everybody because that is a window into a cartoonish mindset a caricature Britain. The idea that there's nobody able billionaires on the very poor I mean I know some People Bernardo but I really don't know anybody classes and the deadly embryos either. How many billions of dollars in this country I think he's thinking of that film snow Piercer? It's like a train and it's the poor down one end and the billionaires down the other what's meetings I even might've been by. Nineteen seventeen like Soviet propaganda was more nuanced than that layers of society released sensitive. It was a more nuanced vision. So none of that but also as the phrase the many not the few my instinct is not well one defend the feet. I mean are they typically feel the need to defend billion but whenever it's like here's a majority in his minority and we're gonNA stop them against each other the con- some kind of just emotional feeling of discomfort. That I have with his antiabortion. But it's that sort of it's also increases the notion of the dialogue of the Daphne half we just got one bunch of people shot in for the mantle. Few another bunch of people shot and get brexit done and in the middle everybody else go. Please be quiet please. Just stop shouting slogans. At least we remember those whereas political slogans like which you can't even remember like American presidential search campaigns Wetzel kind of like food note backward not down into the future brought writer. Happy Time tomorrow and it might know this was it. Stanley Goldman whose election slogan was tranquility. I mean is it a collection slogan or is it a kind of like mind stroke. The way it's an APP it's an as well as it plays Stanley Baldwin murmuring in your aunt sunny bowl when the two point Oh anyway and dying this elkins. They'll be they'll be kind of general dreadful noises coming from my face out the next thousand prototypes to those in the book. Pray for endless and that also be some coughing it goes thinking surely he set up. That's going to walk anyway. This we're GONNA look at Boris. Always Johnson's blundering from the politicization of that horrible terrorist attack on London Bridge to his sudden lofty promises about state immigration as well as a new twist Labor's revelations about the NHS and trump's trade deal. That's all after a few reminders from Ingrid. Let's make this quick. You have just one day to complete your Christmas shopping at the snow covered. Ra- maniacs x Christmas market. Our supplies have been swamped with demand because of black Friday so in order for them to guarantee delivery in time for Christmas. They've told us all orders need to be in. By the end Friday the sixth of December will be closing the market at the end of Friday. So get your skates on and by Anti Karen the I heart Brussels Mug that you absolutely no. She wants so so that she can toast to majesty. The Queen Properly Christmas Day find all remaining acts match dot com and impact news. We're about to launch our first live show of twenty twenty and drum roll. It's not in London. Yes in or out win or lose. The Romanians roadshow continues for the next stage of the brexit infinity. WAR SEARCH MANIACS PATCH CHAN to sign up and be the first to discover exactly where that will be plus. You'll get our lovely merchandise and all our other benefits. We are as ever massively grateful for your support. Can I say that. The John Bolton interview with the acting head of UK Pokhara member name Mountain Mount amounted. She really she was on Auntie. Karen she she was just like bullshitting over Christmas. Dinner and Adam Bolton was the person that everybody wishes they were just the the biggest tool so how many how many immigrants saw that come onto Karen Alba's off crooked Adam Bolton so bloody miserable be Christmasy anyway. Speaking of Christmas the election still i. We discovered that. There's nothing Boris Johnson. It won't slip resents. That's all following the horrific terror attack a prisoner rehabilitation conference in London Bridge. Johnson blamed Labor for the early release of the attack. Is Anybody in that. Tell Him who's been good one for the last nine years Johnson also published a column in the mail promising that he will keep it and say from Sarah if he's given a majority a and it's not just Johnson making haven this because of the parallels of the TACO orig- two years years ago the false flag brigade or out as well. Is it inevitable that anything. Let's see the terror chuckle or possibly could be construed as its Ariza. Lone Wolf type thing is going. I'm to be just snapped up by these extremes peppis everything the moment is going to be met by a low level sense of conspiracy theories. So there's always going to be going to talk about anything in terms of conspiracy theory including a lot of people that I'm usually sympathetic to. We've spoken before about the way dead. Key phrase is basically a sort of kind of like mainstream vanilla liberals conspiracy theory that just imagine the time. Oh this is just the distract us from something else and you just wonder why she sometimes people up and the bleaker end of this. Is the false flag stuff we re which sometimes in the states with school shootings reaches response to room And you can see that and the rest of what we're seeing. The political response is basically. What happens when there is absolutely no motivation? No incentive politicians to behave in immoral way to abide by basic social norms of not trying to size and cynically used the deaths of some people for their own aims. So you know we are in and the worst of all possible worlds right now and the response to this event pretty much component of. It's interesting isn't it. That response in one direction room immediately greeted with too soon to who sent sixty think about Gone atrocities in America. And the minute anybody starts talking about gun control immediately. It's too soon to talk about it. We should be having a decent period. You'd of reflection after this tragedy responses in another direction has perfectly legitimate. This is a political issue that needs to be dealt with such as Why we released terrorists all all of it? Britain ruling rights all over Britain is definitely adult double standard operating in that if there was a really clear compelling case for the reasons behind something then you might be any different situation for instance if someone who'd use the gun that people have just had a conversation about where the show it should be banned on now and it hasn't been been used you would obviously have a click is competition in. This case is automatic release. It's supported by Labour and the Conservatives Verizon's because it allowed them to pretend that they're going to really tough on crime policy while at the same time dealing with that they didn't have capacity imprisons deal with populations that that would entail to. They both supported. I'm sorry for him to come out and start gibbering about it is obviously a party-political attempt it doesn't you know I. It doesn't bear comparison with the response that you would find in the US because it is obvious it's such a completely different scenario one which is complex and nuanced when she had no interesting reflecting whatsoever. It isn't that Jeremy Corbyn blamed the Iraq war which was a Labour own-goal not related. Oh not real Neighbor and the neighbor is labor. See You doing. It was just not GonNa Doke trionnaire response wants you know they just reaches back to play back. Miss Anything that happens In the West is bad is is is the West phone now. Obviously there is El Camino. There are definitely some arguments about you. Know the effect that these conflicts of had on on sort of feeding terrorism there's also A great deal of evidence including a nine eleven of terrorism existing before these wars and it just seemed like the wrong. There is an argument to be had there. But you seem like such such the wrong note to strike and it was. I felt maybe that it was an opportunity after the shamelessness of Johnson's intervention To take slightly high ground and not just go well. This confirms the thing that I'm saying. Is You know I wouldn't have been that hard because Johnson's was so shameless You know and the and the kind of the finger pointing and they lock them up and throw away the key on and stuff And I just found a common you could've you could've sort of risen above but You know if the prime minister introduces it as a political debating point only the job of the opposition to debate that point. You know. It's the prime minister. Use opened the bidding as it were and you kind of. GT founded DICTA deal in its own terms by blaming the previous no government if you WANNA push back the Tories stories and what the claims. They're making about prison justice policy. Great but that he's he. He was not responding to Johnson. No that's not that's exactly my point is it would have been legitimate of him to cite marching you. Know his fingers his his policy failures But it but the the kind of reaching reaching for the security blanket of basically it's Tony Blair's fault is kind of shows the sort of you know the poverty and the lack of ability to react on on on on your face. That's GonNa make you this election campaign dismal Ingrid David Merrit of the father of one of the victims said. His son wanted a world where we don't slash prison budgets where we focus on rehabilitation patient not revenge. And the have I got news. Feed twitter. Account of all people pointed out that says no money to rehabilitate terrorists. Says Gamal has meant a hundred million pounds of Brexit. That didn't happen. Yeah I mean. It's so tragically ironic that the his son got killed. Nissan was fighting for prison reform And now we have interbay debate about how that shouldn't be with me. Johnson says the opposition walked that you know the Jack Merritt stood for but I mean. It's it's really tricky. Because I think I I think what conservative seems to be learning the hard way they learned but is that Oh if you cut funding for things bad shit happens and they have caught so much out of the probation service and just the legal just the legal system people on their knees. He's I think and it's so everything's coming in ways listened to report about the Grenfell Tower. And how that sort of happened is direct consequence of of of corner-cutting. Because it's always down. The money is the is the bottom line you can do it the cheapest. How can we do the cheapest? That's what will go for regardless of the cost of the public in terms of of the safety of the public So it seems it's interesting. Isn't it if this if this causes them to invest more in the legal system. But that's not what they're proposing that you're saying longest longest instances but that's not the answer to anything as any I think privately self-respecting and slapping them on people. Who GonNa do this? The problem is when you have a one one one off event and it's like the exact you know she. Could you know you time travel back. You know the exact circumstances which led this guy took men another terrorist attack That doesn't necessarily follow therefore that there should be a vast way the people that you then that you then can lock up. There's not there's not really logical thing is it or even you know in who knows if more money is being spent on rehabilitation with that of made a difference. I you know I don lovely wife to modify I mean yeah. I agree and an Islamic fund or any kind of terrorism is oversee complete. I think slightly separate issue from the Normal Prison Service Service with yeah is about ideology which is slightly different area. But there's just not enough money to address that. Probably imagine because when you cut this is the thing that we have. The print service is when you cut. You can't deliver any services. So for instance when you cut prison. God's you don't have the capacity that to take the prisoner from their sow to the room. Where were you? Were doing. Whatever it is that you want for rehabilitation with US retraining re-skilling jobs which honoree subject family contact trying to improve literacy rates or trying to deal with more ideological logical issues? You just. Can't you literally physically take them from one place to another so. As soon as they started cutting the bridging budget doing austerity prisoners spent twenty three hours a day in their rooms and that was what happened and they just spent the entire time in cell. So we've kind of almost whatever. The crime is what we news is. We have these guys for a moment in time is what do we do with them. During that time that this country has just failed over and over again and the reason it fails because the right wing press the fire and brimstone tough on crime. Bouche it gives a shit about that ax if the number that number of years given appointed sentence is this magic one seventy make crime disappear. Yeah I'm not that I've ever sort of considering anybody would have particularly made the calculation of well cool six shares will do eight yes. It's not really worth it six years. Yeah I'm GonNa Merge them actually seems like a good deal on L. Crime this very specific about the the kind of jihadi mindset. I see some of them are rehabilitated. And some repent but there is obviously a kind of there is a religious fanaticism driving them. So the idea that this would then drive kind of more a harsher Maureen humane sentencing regime for people who are not like that It's a very specific crime. People commit most grinds even terrible terrible crimes and not driven by that sense of mission and therefore is likely to do it again. And it's it's just the it's sort of. It's I mean that's what he's always awful when basically one an event with very particular constellation of of causes becomes a justification for unrelated things. You know if it's related for example gun policy and mass shootings all very much related. But this just seems like it's being used as an excuse to do a lot of stuff that actually has doesn't have that much to do. And do you know about wha- AH inevitably with the same is that the knee-jerk reaction is like I. This is what I now think. Boris Johnson. I've always thought this is what we're GONNA do without any actual food or consultation or looking at details or just guessing new just getting a broader view because he's not a details I mean he's the lease details orientated person I've ever seen in in that opposition I feel like there's some footage of today than NATO and it's always adults in the room talking to him and nodding he's never holding court is not civil the heads of states listening to him gang. Yeah yes absolutely. He's no merckel but we need US already But yes did anybody put ourselves through the Marin severe the Johnson. Yeah it was pretty unedifying I I mean I was quite impressed by MAS attempt to tough guy up with these kind of relentlessness but Seemed to be. I think you talked about this on the show. Didn't you in about how you know. mollahs tactic is to have some eight or nine points that he's trying to get a kind of granular Kana concessional. Well not go for the big picture. What came across the male and the pitch was simply that surprise surprise? Boris Johnson is blistering. Lie He doesn't listen to taping sets in and it was Mesli kind of depressing. which was he wasn't asking what was frustrating motives? He wasn't actually asking him questions. Anything the thing that kept into him over and over again was you've been in power for ten years which is completely fair response to what you're saying but it's not actually a questions you can kind of Wrigley way around that produced because it's just a man sane same sentence over over and over again it wasn't hooked down on anything I found. It really was fucking dreadful. I mean the kind of thing we're off to what you just feel. My brain is physically smaller than it was going into this thing. Yeah it's Kinda shining through Shimon. Andy really unfair itself. I mean that's all I do get the BBC the benefit of the doubt with their failure to nail down an engineer interview. You know it is really early. Looks really bad and like all right. We've got Andrew Marr and it's like well the one thing that maybe could save that will be under more watched engineering's Vian when our rights he asked questions austen's and then you don't off the hook Like maybe I should try that an android just did hundred always does Meanwhile this big reveal from Labor was leaked documents which they they say prove the. NHS's on the table in trade talks with the US. Even though Donald Trump says he was even on a silver salver. The Guardian had an intriguing report that the papers may the way into the public domain online. Using what Russian methods researchers uncovered the other copy shore of this there were many commonalities between the way the papers released and methods of Russian Russian hacking group called secondary infection. Three more from them later. Dmitry Peskov Person Putin's media man probably couldn't look any more like an extra McCall will be tried. God says that we in Britain. How fetish blaming Russia to distract from our own problems ingrid does the evil meddling Russian communist have appoint the valley l. e. blaming the meddling Russians? What I mean is this probably not I mean yes in in that sense that like things you shoot down one uh-huh yeah you? It's nothing because some of the things are true Mesa. The time doesn't mean all of the things that you will at the time Russia Russia but people then will automatically jump to that conclusion rightly or wrongly. I probably say it probably how they love it. They love it because it makes us. It makes them seem all powerful. Oh it does make you wonder that if if if the Russians are fully waking. He leaked singles. Why did they choose? NHA documents the only ones that early Chileans people the choice stuff around them so they recover because stuff as well save by matching. But but but you would think isn't always gary will he who leaks it. Who wants to they stand to gain from it? Is the tin foil hat. Cui Bono who benefits which are always makes me think the seventy things happened in the world the benefit nobody told That sort of like saying Patton of you know black gloved hand moves chiefs lever on on machine and pop. Hey comes an email into your inbox. So the Russian argument the Russian technique is essentially. It's not really about who it benefits like chaos and sort of dissent. Yeah benefits them. So even the idea is that the Russians have particularly favored candidates of mean. Sometimes they generally favored the candidates. Who are just GonNa like fuck things up but that might be someone on the Ryan might be someone on the left? It's sort of like the way the the kind of the modern Russian way of doing things and spreading discord in an paranoia stuff. He isn't really that old. Milton model. off love. You'll doing it. You've got a cunning plan which is intended to achieve the following aim and if there is Boris Johnson versus Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister Great. Britain's just the Putin's already achieved whatever you do in the first place either there's options I'm sure that's the line is that the the contemporary mature in Canada does not know he's the Manchurian candidate and he thinks he's like like a regular guy and the best for Britain stroke himself by the call in all brexit. You you can read is basically as sort of helping Russian awesome white doesn't mean obviously the anybody's collaborating you know. With the Moldovan wasn't it wasn't intended often leads leads papers were originally back in. Wasn't it back into described news the other this left-wing news I am they. They started going through them in July. And now running a campaign going. Look at these dusted. Leave Russian papers that neighbor using using for this but it doesn't look like they started publishing a story on it in July right sipped Telugu didn't even came from but we don't know that it's it's really. We didn't know that said was that the methodology of how it was published. which is you can read it using three German language newspapers and at said one anonymous twitter account doing fine? I mean that convincing but it doesn't it's not exactly like definitive say is say it was Russians but it was it was available online as opposed to kind of like handed to Penalize on a red curl boss at midnight. Nhl Nhl documents do not read. I am not a Nice Day for walking park. Read folks get it right but provided that wasn't actually any sort of competitive it's like I don't really think this discredits as long as the document saw genuine right. Yeah Yeah it's nor anybody's fault. If those things have been made leaked and are available online someone Bertrand Donald Trump says he it doesn't want NHTSA even if it's offered to him on a silver solve a do we believe him. I mean it's famous. Lack of consistency means that almost no statement can be differently. They they different. They definitely definitely going to have to say about drug prices and about Nice. I mean it's just there's no point in having the definitely will the Tory benchmark for for their own accuracy was to say will be on the table which is the suggest it won't be part of Tulsa bloody table again. The fucking table Man is everywhere so like obviously that his folks the other thing is will you back down on chest drug pricing and nice in particular. My guess would be on that. Ah Yes unless they thought that the political damage would be so so strong that it scares them off. But that's you know that's basically put you in a position of uncertainty as to. What were the Tories do? Once they're in negotiation creation rather than were they're allowed to be negotiation in the first place. I find that I'm fatally insulting the way he said he was almost like. I wouldn't touch your Desi. NHL CHANCE TO ABOLISH poll. It was really a sudden he was like. Oh what was wrong with chestnuts eight. You won't buy it won't use to certainly maybe a decent price. Maybe what it needs is a halt injection of capital from you know Raytheon and defense dynamics. I don't know that could be the way of thinking okay away from the NHTSA. The weeks other major announcements came from the Queen of the Disney villainess smirk Pretty Patel who renounced Australian points based system of immigration. Yes that one again to end free movement once and for all after brexit. Although as Tom Brooks looks noted in the independent a few extra not only do we already have a points based immigration system for nominee migrants. But it's actually based on a stretch so we kind of already have an Australian points-based you get the picture dastardly. Europeans will also require an asda style. Visa like we need when we go to America. Ingrid is pretty wild rice in at least one cents at the border will become more secure bill because it'll be so quiet because people won't want to commit because they've like trade. Show me your papers type thing. I do wonder about that. I've I worry about that. Anyway I because I know lots of people He goes to Merrick because of trump. They've said not until he's our power and I can't help feeling one thing you do notice by the way mucosal customs like that. Very few a portrait of trump on immigration. The used debate Obama wherever you went through the George W Bush's well whenever you went in Clinton obviously there are no trump portraits. That's likes disinterested deep state on the you know immigration like I mean yeah I worry I I sort of think. Why would you come here at this at this point in time if you were so talented? European authorize my we. I wouldn't grainger that thing is I'm a I'M A. I'm going to disagree with the business organizations and later topic back but I will agree with them now. He s because a Mumber dicta belie that you know and I think the CBI Who who pointed out the kind of the problem problem with this brightest and the best cliche which is completely unrelated to to at LE- How economies you know use US immigrants unipolarity? It's not like there's a stack of people with the Brighton. The top Sean. It's not always the best. It's not just like come in the only people who want to work on their. PhD's yeah against like a huge amount of kind of immigrants is it's going to spread out across. I mean all the way across the economy numerous different disciplines. I think ten somebodies mentioned in the podcast before somebody said what you remember. Is that the the the brightest set not always the best and sometimes the best and brightest. You don't need to be highly qualified not to be of enormous value to the economy and often hugely qualified. I'm financially powerful. People quite actually dilatoriness to the economy. The Not actually very good in terms in terms of they'll start anybody's point system and the fact that we haven't got ended in the US anything stopping us from controlling your borders nonsense. My brother married an Ecuadorian woman. And she's an an engineer mechanical engineer they had three children together and married and she had to wait. I think three months an issue is she. My brother had to move here first and then and she was with three kids and a hotel room for light like travelodge in East Germany for three months because they wouldn't processor visa and she's a fucking mechanical engineer and is married to Britain and has three children and they were it was such tortuous process. So the idea that whistle serve at the moment just letting floods of people in and we can't control are awesome awesome is eight astronauts but I suppose about to the prisons pose London Bridge prisons idea was. It's the sort of unnecessary cruelty which is kind of like a strand that runs through much of much. Tory policy is that they took him because they just people that you that you use the moment. They're all having an easy time of year. We need to make things that have harder and harder for small mobile blount quite apart from the kind of the affected the economy of suddenly removing a whole kind of pool of of Labor Labor. It's just that kind of we need to do is read some of the personal stories. Yeah and and you just think why would you. 'cause is of economic damage image just in in order to hurt people but I think this is the mistake people outside make all the time we looked at it and go. This is so awful. How is this not causing them damage? Why is this not making them more unpopular and the sad truth is that a large part of the consensus support now but which is a feature not book that in it for the sense that in some ill defined way they themselves are being revenged upon the people that have made their lives not quite what they wanted to be on a did? It's a very telling little again. It's trump's not Britain. But they were one of these kind of Trump's supporters Safaris New York Times on it and it was a woman in and One of the classic trump posing states saying she'd voted traumatize very unhappy with him on the repulsive. Why is that and she said he's not hurting the right people on the idea that the job of the president is the head people? That did the job of Goldman is is find. Somebody isolated group a make like difficult for them seem completely in tantalized by large minority see of electorates across the Western was the first thing that hits Butch Jones who when you go to for bus was in ensues bree yesterday and he gets off. He's found the time with people. I second and the first thing that someone said to talk to him yet in fact cruising the first thing they wanted to say was I mean. They are whether it's parliament or remains in general were immigrant whatever before but it was basically the first thing that they require him was to punish the people that he did. Not Its politics is sport is what my team has got a funky old same up. When I don't know if that we win you must also lose but it also I think it answers? A kind of emotional need the in a in a confusing world in a lot ways. Flattened you know you having your reliable Iraqis. You don't really know what you stand walk gives you set and say is there wrong. I'm Pretty Patel is going to miserable therefore I like Richie Patel Cheese gritting reading while she does someplace this side of the story of fascism. Yeah and the story of kind of you know. Put my native populism Acerra terrorism going back. I mean that's always the way isn't it just like white supremacy mortgage just like we need to stick it to some other people so we can feel bad even if our lives. I haven't materially improved one. Jot At least we can let down on them. And that was the problem in lights civil rights movement when it started kind of like elevating people of Color Uh kind of struggling white people just like fuck this. This was the only thing we had was being able to look down on them and sit. There is an element. I'm on the left as well. I mean we just talking about many few. There's a kind of you may argue that you know more of a kind of a of a just approach You know to distribution in society but a lot of the energy comes from. There's a group out there that are getting away with it and I want to punish them. I mean if you look at Copenhagen exactly the same tribal liberal place and you really don't know what you've got to Gandhi in the when I think of Oh prime ministers and I might not have been real but that thing that they felt that they had to present present themselves as being there for the whole of the country is representing the whole of the country even though of course at their intellectual calculus underneath do just that fiction. That theater is healthy healthy and means something whereas actually quite poisonous. The thing that someone's in Downing Street with the intent to both act and to show that they are acting in in a way that has done for that tribe and to attack another batch of them on then yeah clam whole country that she just didn't give that's why she was across. Worry your Ah. This is just in my life. I mean I remember going on but you know from then on. You didn't really see much of that. And she even before her where there was consensus between Labour and the Conservatives on Kenyan policy. There's actually so much consensus that really. That was a sense that there was a there was a national plan. She was basically an operation. I would say into now felucca being told by friends who are kind of soft Tories and and On even some cases quite hot toys that you don't stop worrying under wearing what Boris Johnson. He's a one nation conservative. Really for fucking time man conservative yet fairly stable he needs to get elected. And then you're GONNA GONNA say look at how we govern London. He was a liberal one. That you what would his fucking Ruritanian like lego projects across the tens and he's bullshit bosses any stupid keeping you know cable car things. I mean this is thought that was a one man to I've seen. I've seen arguments about what Johnson government might do. And you've got some people people accusing others being alarmist and others accusing the others being complacent. Because when you're dealing with somebody with no ideological consistency or real beliefs you're trying to predict not like we have someone like Thatcher you just. This is what Thatcher ones with Johnson. You just like well. It depends which way the tide is is. This is going. I caught your friends could be right. Is that she threat. My mother seems to agreeing with your friends as she doesn't. My mother is not a hard-line Tory she's a soft. I mean she's so I'm going to bet on pocos. But she's she's fundamentally a decent she's she's about Greenwich Price You've remained. She's not as hardcore Tori and she said that she any policies that were like that. She wouldn't vote for if she were to win. And I think with I know it's really interesting again because I'm an accident I'd look for the night. And what is the carrot. What is the motivation? And I I saw. There was some footage online of Boris obvious was morning at the NATO summit with with with Chew macron Princess Anne widely and somewhere else another one and they will laughing about While they were essentially slagging off Donald Trump and they they will might sitting quite realize allies and he was posted them and they were laughing about him and he's sort of seem quite happy in this group and I think the idea of him becomes ideologue right wing ideologue the alienates us from the rest of the world. I didn't I if you if you were to pick him up and place him in a different group and a group of right way audio up saying blend down the hospital so you know he'd be absolutely I think he's I think he's I think the reason it's so hard to get a grip on Johnson and trump is they are hollow men. They don't want anything other the big chair and yet you say like looking forward to what Tory policies might be wondering Goldman. My fear is that it's just a void I agree I date identically. Morrison and trump. I think by the same person I think not the same person but I think trump is a more ultimate extreme human abyss whereas Johnson is just a a liar. Michelle do you do you. You think on the continuum but you think in a way this this this is just the cuts May There's lots of comparing Corbin's alleged this anti Semitic remarks or programmatic from us on that front With Johnson's Racist I mean not just race it I mean offensive mas map basically everybody and one of the difference. Why one of them seems to land and the other doesn't is the people think that copen really believes all that stuff Kobe videos? Thanks five years ago they think. Yeah Hannah. That's that's exactly what he thinks about Israel whereas if you're just seeing like loads of spectator and telegraph columns churned up. He's using this kind of like comic hyperbole. I personally to be horrible about everyone. I do wonder whether some people just go close. Excuse Boris Boris. They don't actually believe this. Reveal some sort of deep seated hatred of particular particular social groups. They just think Oh really believe any of it and therefore it hurts him. Less because he's hollow was on the Morrinsville worries that Mark. I think mall coaches acton and he just gonNa keep pulling things that I wrote about people. I mean where's that going to take. What are you going to keep pulling bill your opinions that you advanced the money supposedly believing it was an interesting that will be on one of channel? Four's meet the voters routines I think it was yesterday. Tuesday where A guy goes well Boris Morris. He's lying all the time is just lies and You know just says what he likes. That's why I believe. I trust him on a thought. How would you go with that? You know I believe leave. The Sky Kasey lies to me. Where do you go I? Yeah I I didn't he say didn't he say he says the truth. I didn't say that now. I think he said No. He speaks the truth that allows people. Don't WanNa hear it. But that's why I like him so he's the heat no he thinks so. There was a lady in there who said he lied to the Queen's else could he possibly Jay and then this other guy was no I think he speaks chief. And that's how I put my head in my hands that God did preceded Charlie tells lies all the time and but he speaks the as if and I think that's that's the deal with the definition of what the truth. Thanks for a lot of people. The truth is now what you wish it was rather than the connection to trump is. Actually the truth is what is offensive. The truth is what annoys the people who annoy you and so if someone's just sort of like saying horrible things about single mothers Muslims or whatever you know certainly was the case trump is people. Just go well. He's he's telling the truth and people people who pretend that they don't hate Muslims. A single mothers sort of lying because because we know that everybody does that that is the whole kind of problem whereas anybody who who kind of is not bigoted somehow being politically correct and therefore being insincere. Anybody who's just hateful. It's just like it's while we're thinking and that's going to be. I mean if you managed to get a majority of thing that's going to be one of the things that really smarts is that there's vindication not for any of the politics not even for the comments that he's made for for the type of personality two years you've done this. There was no question. I mean pretty much everyone except you know this guy's a liar. You can see the arrogance the self interest but you are not questions. The running away for any kind of scrutiny. The sort of just general disdain towards the basic structures in the culture in which we operate and it will be vindicated and it sort of the the shade of that is how felt when Donald Trump won in the US where the first thing from American friends was a sense of the constantly used the word fair in those first last few days. It's more severe. Because because the thing that they fixated on was the aggression in an administration let the sexual aggression around him. So that's okay so basically we're seeing as a coach. That's okay now. This is not that bad but it is the same process that if there if there is a mandate for it than it is a coach where we'll moment where you're saying we do not think that these things are you know of of of the book. I think it's interesting that he's chosen to pop. Currently distance himself from trump in this visit He's delivery liberty not wanted to be seen having in depth conversations with him and that does feel slightly different. Met The thing because after you know when trump wore never say oh maybe won't bad when he's in power checks and balances checks and balances and then obviously that turn out to be a total bag. Committed to the say so I caught with with with with with Johnson because as we all possibly heading probably heading for majority I have to believe he went. His pants is almost like I am hoping with everything. That's not going to go that way. And that will be pleasantly surprised because fucking. We need something positive after after last year's a bit yeah I mean. I didn't hold that much. I've got to believe that there's room for my I think the saving grace the thing that makes Johnson not trump is thoughts Manian deadly con- control himself. He is is he has no interest in will out and five minutes ago. He's just interested in causing chaos. Where every cat Johnson is fundamentally lazy? Yeah he just doesn't really want to do anything he just wants to go round shaggy women at random and denying it. He has no policy days. He won't be as as he ever tried harder anything he's ever done. I think that's the saving grace I think you've got I've one now and I'll show for five years not really doing anything. We'll probably get some hideous follies bell around the country a stupid bridge from one place to another. Maybe he'll change the shape of the pulses. This was true. Do not see it because I just see this. There is a wing of the party. An intellectual tradition to that wing the he is linked into haunt. He's linked to and it's Darren European Court Convention Human Rights. It's certainly there on judicial review. And it's there on these trumpeting things at the same generally about constitutional change in imposing politics is basically this hatred of independence was where do you have the separation of powers so dear. The politicians should just be able to say what's what and of course you be able to stand in the way okay and the rule should really be able to stand in the way that he is fully in that tribe. He's given them everything. You can only base your predictions for the future about what has happened in the past when we got this and that does not look good. I only signed ideologues in the cabinets. But he will be carrying the council. Whatever it happens on fundamentally he wants to be liked and we don't know what the next cabinet is gonNA look like after it might look different? It might not be as in. This might have been a particular right-wing cabinet to win over these people. He needed to see a right wing cabinet and then who knows but that's the bad thing in the manifesto about that was terrifying About the changing construction feels like does that feel like a cummings. That feels like a company does. If there's a chance for survival it will be you know whenever whatever the hell happens at the end of twenty twenty. Maybe maybe he thinks the brexit thing I can just put in a box and now I want to prove how one nation I am but if I had to bet on money I would say that he's going to be a coach warrior cons- comeback. What really makes government work and why things go wrong? What's really going on in the engine room of policy every week? In inside briefing from the Institute for Government we look at WHO and what determines the way that we are governed. You don't just leave a pot of money on the side of the road for businesses to pick up. Maybe the new reality reality is minorities and coalitions and no one winning and big majority. If that's the case we need really serious think about how government and how we run. Paul you can get inside briefing from the Institute government every week on your favorite podcast APP. Finally in further final and total death at the fiscal conservatism news. Boris Johnson has made an enemy of even whatever free market thinks still like him by promising to increase state aid for struggling companies after brexit policy. Elsie he's hoping we'll win. overlay of osas in the notorious red wool of industrial towns. In for the last four years the brexit has been complaining about the bow protectionist the ears Anapa Shell says the idea of more state. Can he legitimately do this. Can he say that this might be an element of contradiction. Here will be building walls around the country gain what he's already done it but I don't know if he knows that he has an eight to ten in non impractical. The deal that he thinks say fantastic. He came back with. Ready has stay visions for any tax arrangement that businesses in Northern Ireland for new businesses and whatnot into the trading with the EU. They're all state aid arrangements in the secondarily. The Europeans have made clear again in the package that he brought back. state-aid was a condition of any trade deal with them so his position is that he won't have these state-aid provision but again there were ready in the fucking do and they're already price of what he would do for future trade deal instead instead he would go over to the WTO's anti-subsidy rules which basically the same whether they have less case law because the WTO stuff works to the state to state remember rather than the case you'd have built up the European quote justice so he's basically saying we're going to get rid of this thing get sign up something that's Fair Ray Seminar. Do do half of us so of the other. It's going to be working on the North Non embiid and this will then be a criteria of the deal which is already quite hard to work out how we'd be able to negotiate a the I would then be doing by the end of twenty twenty as a precondition of the EU. So he's looking at using night. What the fuck you talking? I think you quite accurately unjustifiably unjustifiably. Totally confused as though because it's is a morass but the message the big sort of you know extent message to the voters don't worry Britain will be able to prop folks great British industries if named after. I didn't even think that way because I I don't think that enough work has been done telling voters the words state-aid means if you've done if you'd had years behind saying we'll be able to invest in our industries then. I think that would be a different catching fish. And you'd actually be able to convince people this would be a change and it might be effective to come out now and in one day of twenty four hours of new cycle. Go stay aid state aid. Who you really going to get over a few exeter's and they really know because the exit argument isn't it that the Torah touched before about horrible? There's about fifteen thousand people on twitter. Who Talk about state aid? We're not seeing any stories talking about in quotes state aid. What they've talked about is backing British business and particularly new new procurement rules? It means you'RE GONNA buy British if you're a government organization or of your local authority and you'll be biased by British which in my limited understanding the styling of this flies in the face of WTO rules. Doesn't you just mention them. The we he's saying we're GONNA come out from the tyranny of the EU thereby enabling Abe lingle's to support our own industries. Both you know by rewriting procurement rules and being able to problem with investments and a bit a bit we're going to go into the WTO rules that prevent the very same. Is that right. Yeah I mean it's easier and also I mean the other advantages you have more of a say right with the EU you're asking for a trade do is sign up to our state aid rules that we adjudicate on you know it's an e you right to the European justice decides on it but you're not going to have a say I was in the WTO your knees in it as an independent sort of member so there is a distinction but the rules are pretty similar really. Yeah Yeah but I'm not against this this no I don't think that's I you know I never bought the kind of likes argument. The you know we should leave the European Union in because of states angels. But if you're going to leave the European Union I've got no objection to much of. It is giving more stay aid when the people who are angry about it at the Institute of Economic Affairs in the Adam Smith Institute and all the people that thought. WHO's going to be Singapore on Thames? You just like Oh okay then there. Because I if it's going to reach anybody there's a left-wing flip side to that as well as which is that it forces you to reveal the KONTA subsidies that we were out two great big multinationals when they just go swimming running around the world. Basically asking for this asking for that in order to be able to to build a factory and then go off again. So I'm not. There is also the left-wing case of state aid rules which admittedly is. It's not something that they mentioned very much you. I'm told me that I mean but if they're going to have a left-wing case against it it would be helpful if someone in the fucking Alexa would show me which Germy Kuban policy. He is unable to do because the state aid rules. Oh they still have never fucking done. This is just not a major infringement on arbiter deliver a social democratic countries. The Swedes Norwegians have been showing three very long period of time. It's just I predicted bonanza full exciting citing hacker companies run by American immigrants with long flowing. Blond hair I think. That's the kind of state aid we can afford to. They're going to make it like gangbusters. Those guys I really take wheelbarrows full of money will be delivered by next prime minister. There is a small lesson here which is basically that for for one day's worth of news cycle something. That probably wouldn't do much political good. He has massively complicated negotiations. He's going to have the EU over the next twelve months and so once again. You've got that very short term nebulous achievement in exchange change for long-term really quite significant derailment. Do you think in one of the many ways in which twenty seventeen election has kind of confused. Our analysis of twenty nine thousand nine was the fattening. Twenty seventeen one policy which caused a massive problem for the Tories and really not single. Hanley really did help change the direction of the of the election action And the Labor clearly hoping that they would come up with one of those policies which have really changed things I may be. Johnson thinks that this one policy is going to make the difference in the Red Wall. You know Kind of a week and a bit before the election. But it doesn't seem to me that there's any anybody has offered one policy awesome on Brexit. That seems to have Deceased who kind of meet the needle much tool in any way not there's nothing thing like the dementia tax that everyone's talking about How much of what people talking about either laboratories do you actually think you really thinking? Well that's going to happen. Yeah exactly I remember there some elections if someone was on a manifesto and you go right. We'll that's really going to happen definitely having this time Another just seems loads of stuff where it's like. I suppose unless I'm Linda not taking any sort of seriously as like that's actually going to take place it. Just everything just seems like it's being just said for now. Yeah was that I didn't know. Is that just kind of cynicism now. I think it's I think it's it's actually about modern campaigner. Here's a whole Lotta stuff. That's the the kind of thing we'd like to do so but we'll do stuff. That's a bit like that actually may be totally different. We're approaching the end of the show which means it's time for the brexit time capsule our ever expanding list of all the things will dig up on hold close like teddy bear if if we ever leave the EU last week Alex pull the time capsule itself into the time. Capsule like that episode of Doctor. who were the targets materialized inside the tallest Dorian euro the potential in the show? You never get to choose from time. Sheila you'll turn once governing. Well I'm GONNA wreck on. Alex's decision turns out that didn't actually happen. Was it a dream. Or How's your episode. It was like a parallel dimension contracts. Who didn't really get inside the song? What if it was a what if episode I'm just GonNa hurt sorts of faith eighth in the BBC because they've obviously made some snafus On there are obviously Christmas. This is to be made regarding inherent bias towards the towards the government of whichever party or particular ways that certain people have behaved but the I've been really dismayed as opposed by the general consensus. I see on twitter. Twitter is not thankfully the whole world but That the by it's not just like they were kind of unthinking by says or they're kind of like Process issues that should be really be looked at on. I mean don't just published wherever Dominic Cummings tells you And they've turned that into they are. Actively in certain presenters minoshe once people talking about Basically basically sort of actively working for the Conservative Party and that changes things that that and that really maze and there's a lot of people unquote normal all people saying you know de-fund the BBC. What epilepsy I used to love? It used to be important An analogy just don't trust it anymore anymore and is not the pay flawlessly but I do think it's one of those things which is going to have a real long term problem because if there's one thing it took in that kind of era era of like disinformation and fake news and Social Media You do need a kind of fairly objective reliable. Oh source in the BBC is the best that we have flawed there. It is and if you just sort of abandoned that and it's not just people who are into squats. What's in the Canary saying this? It's like people kind of in the think very similarly to me and the just so angry and I'm just hoping that it is going to be maybe to calm. I'm down after the election because I think that if there is a general loss of faith in their ability to at least try and tell the truth and try and represent an accurate picture as best they can then much greater problems for us down the line. Yeah I think it's fair while than it is entitled items. He's genuine anew in fair. I'm in the BBC to be caught out. Doing what is supposedly. I suppose it now that the notion of activity has been so effectively on the mind when when you are being objective somebody ranks so mike in San random points out. You're being biased against them. Yes but then I think it just basically the the scrutiny is so much now it's so perpetuating thing is that the more people distrust the BBC the more a little thing like just a hasty edit someone's trying to Bausch together for for a lunchtime mm show or somebody uses standing uses the wrong clip these things even their individually. They didn't really prove anything they do. 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11/27: Thanksgiving Games; Side Dish Draft; Trustometer (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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11/27: Thanksgiving Games; Side Dish Draft; Trustometer (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports Gov email us at fantasy football ed. CBS I dot Com it is time to dominate your fantasy league of Cheney and he said the best part. Marta thanksgiving is the side dishes right. We're going to talk about that today. We got a side dish draft coming up. That's what you came to hear about right. It's week thirteen. It's time to get to the playoffs. You want to hear about side dishes all series this big show today. A lot of starters previewing the three Thanksgiving Games answering your questions via the email and apple. podcasts saying Lotta Heath Comings and bank rich and the best part about today he is in some kind of he must be really excited for tomorrow or maybe for the side dish draft. I don't know but welcome heath. I think it's brave of you to be here doing this morning after the devastating loss suffered by your the blue devils last night. But yeah what happy Thanksgiving by Blue Devil that will span. You're a Yankees Fan. I just assumed you were Duke. Fan Too uh-huh honestly. They lost last night to Stephen F.. Austin Wow Wow Kentucky. A few weeks ago lost that team at hello. Hey what's up and listen. I'm sorry to tell you that my by soundboard is not working right now so I don't have your music. That's fine fine. Okay well hello. Do I believe that team. That beat Kentucky was like Evansville Purple Aces something something like that now. I'm excited for this side. Dish draft. You guys both have terrible food at expect that I'm going to build a really good thy dish team. What are we going to? It's impossible to build a really good side dish team because Adam violated virtually every concept of a side dish draft asked us for our suggestions didn't take any beds of the nine. Things are things that I'm not going to have on Thanksgiving as side dish. Three of the things are definitively not side dishes this desert. We're GONNA vote out. We're going to have the people vote on it during the show all right so He wanted to propose a new segment. Would you like to tell us about the SAG. The he's just he's all about is producing the show today. He's the heath is odd for sure Which studs are you sitting? Yeah which studs are you sitting. He wants to do this every week. Wish he'd thought of this week one but he. which doesn't you sitting this week? I think the most interesting stud to talk about this week. It is a format specific stud or maybe a pair of studs. And it's does Shawn Watson Andy Andrea Hopkins against the New England Patriots and I'm not saying that I'm definitively sitting either of them. I don't feel comfortable doing that. But it is just a truly awful matchup. The Patriots have allowed one wide receiver lever all season to finish the top twelve in a given week. That was allowed one build tate. Yes one quarterback all season to finish initiative top twelve quarterback Lamar Jackson. Wow and it's been de'andre Hopkins has been awesome and is awesome. But isn't the quite the same guy that he was the past two or three years. L. Targets are coming a little closer to Atlanta scrimmage and he's not getting as many targets when will fuller is on the field so I don't expect him to get ten to fifteen targets. I think you're probably looking at eight. Or so is right around where he's been with fuller and they if his efficiency is is down even a little bit. He's a touchdown dependent wide receiver. And on. So I guess the question. Is You know we can talk about what will preview that game tomorrow. But before that. You've got Kenny Golladay Marvin Jones. Kobe's Louis Randall Cobb Michael Gallup. Maybe even Amari Cooper people people were a little nervous about him. which would be understandable going up against buffalo at home? You got a lot of wide receivers Allen Robinson would be in the mix and obviously Michael. Thomas is going to be ahead of him. Julio Jones of the people as we'll be ahead of him but then there's Calvin Ridley you know. How many of the Thanksgiving wide receivers are you starting over the Andre Hopkins? How many of the Thanksgiving quarterbacks who started over to Shawn Watson it's big yeah? I wasn't prepared for that like Thanksgiving quarterbacks I would. I'd rather start Dak against buffalo than Watson against the Patriot. What would you start Josh? Allen would you start. I would not start Josh Allen over. Okay how `bout then get it on this. To how about Matt Ryan who has great his three at home. Against the Falcons and saints. I think Blimp Play Ryan. The one thing we know about Atlanta's they're just gonNA throw in every single game. Though thank you take that volume. I I would start the cowboys. Wide Receivers over Andre Hopkins. I would start Allen. Robinson in these are all non pr PR. I think he's still going to catch six passes like he does every every single week. And you probably just start. Ob scores a touchdown and has a big week in non PR. I think there's a better chance to Robinson scores a touchdown for sure. I think there's a better chance Robinson gets one hundred yards words than the Andre Hopkins. So I'd start Robinson I guess I'm just like the cowboys guys are facing the bills and they they give the second fewest fantasy points to wide receiver. So you know really. I don't. I don't think it's the same thing like they have still allowed a couple of receivers to you have good games and the bills like we make fun of the Patriots for their schedule. The bills have not yet faced a quarterback that top twelve this season fantasy points. Yeah yeah well. It's true that that's the best one they probably Tom Brady. It'd be the toughest challenge for For Buffalo for sure and and probably for Buffalo obviously comes down at your David White. Who is their star quarterback? He's going to be on Amari Cooper Cooper's a lot better at home that's a tough one that is struggling with but I'm going to be willing to play Cooper at home even in the tough match-up he tends to to get there at home. Oh Yeah in fact. Let's look at some history lesson. Some thanksgiving history some matchup history. Some home road history. Amari Cooper is in there but I'll give you a stat right and you guys tell me what it means to. You drew brees on the road on Thursday night his last three seasons now. This is four in a row. He's been on the road on Thursday night and in those games he nia scored nineteen twenty and nine fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues but he does not very good for drew. BREES is Thursday night road history recently gently anyway You still you. All three of you have them as a top five quarterback. Against the Falcons at Falcons. Yeah I think the Falcons defense I still not particularly good. It's it's better than it was early in the year. But it's it's really not it's pretty dreadful and I'd wonder how many of those Thursday night road games for breeze were outdoors because I think the outdoors thing maybe maybe a bigger thing than the At home at Atlanta I remember that Dallas I think last year he played at Dallas. How's the week after Thanksgiving I'd not sure yeah. I expect this to be a high scoring game. Okay with drew brees this week. Big Game for him. Yeah definitely I agree with your dome environment that should be. It should be a good one for for breeze it. I think there's going to be a pretty pretty high scoring game though. I think I'm definitely definitely look at that. Lower third history lessons with Adam as I always wanted to teach something so here we go history lesson number two by the way if you if you want to see the show Youtube Sup- dot com slash fantasy football today. History lesson number two Matt Ryan Fantasy points in six points per passing touchdown leaks in his last five home games against the saints. It's thirty six twenty. Four thirty seven eight terrible and forty nine so four great four very good Games. Three of them amazing raising and one bad game but he three hundred and thirty one or more yards in four of those five games. He's got a banged up. Julio Jones on a short week and day even Jamie are think are Kinda low on that Ryan I think they have them around thirteenth. But Heath you've got him. I think Ninth Matt Ryan Not yet ninth. Yeah I'm pretty much just starting a minute. I mean I'd rather start Janus I would rather start Dax still but I'm pretty much just starting Ryan. It was a terrible no good very bad performance last week. We we all paid for. But I'm going right back to him in again. What I think will be a high scoring game go? Actually I was wrong. David Jamie Have Matt Ryan Seventeenth and Sixteenth History Lesson number three three. Julio Jones. He has been great against the saints. Ninety three or more yards and all but two of his last eleven games. But of course only one touchdown those eleven games so Banner and are you. Cool starting Julio Jones with banged up shoulder if he plays yeah absolutely. I mean I we don't know about Marshon lattimore. That will probably make make the match up a little worse. But I'M GONNA plan regardless I think this again this game environments going to be high scoring you know it's a really interesting stat this week that All the top five receivers in the NFL find the NFC south then that In terms of receiving yards you have dj more fifth right now both the bucks receivers. Julio Jones Michael Thomas last week we had to NFC NFC south matchups. I know that bucks Atlanta game shot out a little bit. The Carolina New Orleans game had some scoring. I'm expecting that again this week at Landes more pass attempts at any team in the NFL. I expect him to be back and forth. Doesn't use their backs. We learned that with when they had Brian Hill. And they're even when they were leading against Carolina. A couple of weeks ago they kept throwing with there wasn't really a ton of running back value. Yeah Ryan has had a couple of games but the like. That's the one thing when when I ride steel examples every week and I look at Atlanta. It's been super clear all season. Even though their defense has gotten better they want throw they wanNA feature their receivers. I WANNA play Julia as someone who considers himself a Connoisseur of sneaky humble brags sneaking. Dj More is a top five wide receiver into that answer was one of your best pieces of work which I mean. Just talk about Egypt. That's for sure More History Ezekiel Elliott has played twice on Thanksgiving. He scored twenty three and twenty fantasy points in non pr in those two games. So you know he likes he likes the spotlight. He'll jump into the little bell and his celebration. Amari Cooper at home then mentioned this one hundred and thirty four point six yards per game at home on this year five touchdowns thirty five point five yards per game on the road this year two touchdowns. It's a bit of a deceiving Stati left one game with an injury at dealing with injury in another of those road games but he's been so much better at home and last year. He caught six touchdowns in the regular season with Dallas. All of them at home though he did score on the road in the playoffs one more or maybe two more history lessons here. He's I need you to learn this lesson this one. You really need to learn you have John. Brown is a top five wide receiver this week. Okay I had in my own. Brown is to heath as DJ more is to been these had by estimation. Moore's better five live tough match-up this this year. He's done nicely at all five of them but he has scored most of them. He has scored five to nine non fantasy points and ten to twelve fantasy points in his five tough matchups. The cowboys are tough. match-up they haven't allowed to touch down to a wide receiver at home. This is if you want to be bold on John Brown I get it. You've been right right about John Brown. He's he's been really solid. He's been very dependable. You have in the top five. There are no teams out by is tough batch of what are you thinking bad. John Brown is awesome. He'll probably fall a couple spots today. I've said this many times. I have to scramble through Monday to get projections projections done. And there's very little heath influence in that it's just what where the numbers and the over under and the performance over the most recent month or three if week stretch or five week stretch leads us and John Brown has been absolutely awesome. Tough match-up but he faced Chris Harris last week and he faced the Patriots. Six thirty that match up. Well this is not that matchup much easier than facing Chris Harris yet. A forty forty three yard touchdown with like five minutes left and I think he finished with forty nine yards and a td so he had like six yards three and a half quarter. It was Chris Harris thirty nine yards and I think Dallas Dallas doesn't have Chris Harris they have Luzia and he's very good. All right. The cowboys just are so much better at home than on the road. It seems to me but all right he's going to be. You must start for you. That's interesting he's he's all over the rankings. He's been a mustard. All season. I mean is five catches for seventy yards six GOTCHA for seventy dollars. That must start I would say yes. It's pretty good. It's a good floor like if you have that basically every every week then you're gonNA touchdown every other week or every third week and you're going to be easily a top twenty four receiver. I my issue with Brown and I I liked Brown. We have. Why don't you like Brown on one of the shows a couple of weeks ago? I do like him. He gets downfield. Shots it's Josh. Allen is really inconsistent down the field I mean I hate to say that but he doesn't throw the ball. He's been a lot better this year overall but he doesn't have a ton of of pass attempts because he scrambled some and with the inconsistent assistant passed on field. You basically need. John Basically needs to hit a big downfield play to get the yardage in the weeks where he hits him. He has great in the weeks where he doesn't he doesn't and Tom or late. He's on pace for like one hundred and thirty targets. It's not like he's a hundred and ten hundred and fifteen target guy. He's he's getting enough to be a star wide receiver. Oh clear number one but clear number one in a way that Portland sentence. A clear number one. Alan Robinson's a clear number one. Where in my opinion the quarterback is just not as good and consistent and also the volume? mm-hmm is just not there. I mean on the team level. Not Brown Brown has a clear number one share of the offense. I totally agree with that. Thought the bills. Just don't throw IT I. This is really important but are you guys is better to get some side district and going on here. Yes well let me plums figs real quick our facebook giveaway this week. Which player are you thankful for? Ben Heath fiemme people your players are thankful for which players. Are you thankful for player. I guess I'm with Mike Evans. He kind of makes my teams go. Dj More for You ben Dj more touchdown aggression What to say because he who thankful for John Brown doesn't it? I guess as before that segment tomorrow's Thanksgiving obviously if you need help with your lineup. Eleven thirty am to twelve thirty pm am eastern CBS sports. HQ is live fantasy football today. Dave Jamie he threw out on that tomorrow area tomorrow. No I'm not start. Smoking a Turkey at four thirty. Am Okay Cool. The crew beyond at twelve at ten eleven thirty eleven thirty A. M. Eastern on Thanksgiving until twelve thirty. Pretty getting your line upset and all that and if you want some food go to Omaha steaks DOT COM and type F F T in the search bar all right here. We need a trivia question a trivia question I should determine the draft order here we can do snake draft. We're going to draft two sides and a pie all right. Here's the question. It's from our producer Andrew bomber. Lots of talk about Lamar Jackson running wild this year but other quarterbacks have improved their fantasy value on the ground. How many quarterbacks have at least two hundred yards rushing this season now we we all get gas in? Whoever's closest can pick draft order seven seven I will say I will say okay eight Ben you can also say seven or eight? By the way I was going to go high but I'll say six I guess seventy what's the answer. It was a good I says does the answer is eight all right so that out before you. It's a snake draft. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA take the second pick. But he threw out the first versus the third one hundred percent. Want the first because you only put one good side dish analyst. Okay you have the first. Pick your other clock. Mashed potatoes does from gravy. Thank you. He's gets mashed potatoes. I'm going to take Mac and cheese MAC and cheese away to say what's on the clock. I'm sorry Mac and cheese please or what's on the word got to say what's what's available right. We all know what's available. We've all been thanksgiving. We'll just choose things we like from Thanksgiving absolutely not. There's a draft Matt Disease Mashed Potato. You know what I think. I'm okay with that actually right. And why do we need a list. Pick what you want to eat mashed potatoes packages for me bend. You're on the clock for two guys left. Be Number one overall pick for third. I'm really glad that they're drink. It stuffing stuffing is the number one side. I dish on Thanksgiving and then my other pick will be we potato David. I was really hoping sweet potatoes. We're GonNa Plate is crushing right now by the sweet potatoes. He doesn't stuffing I knew I was going to dominate this. I'm GonNa Take Green Bean casserole. Love Green Bean casserole greedy casserole to go with by MAC and cheese heath around the clock. We're we're two picks you get a three. This is a three round draft. Yes I didn't apply okay. I will go with Bacon braised raised Collard Greens okay and founders. Canadian breakfast dealt no you get a hi you get Apple Pie. Choices that sake draft right of mashed potatoes Bacon braise Collard Greens and founders Canadian breakfast out. Thank you have another fantasy Thanksgiving drafts motive this with the salary cap that you guys must on the show a few years back and he jumps into slack and there's rules like pick one Turkey pick one potato or one meet one potato although two sides he goes. I'm taking two turkeys do mashed potatoes and then he'd dreadful Brussels sprouts or something just like episode episode rules that we do the stop being such a rebel. Just please pick a PI. It's very important to the gave unders Canadian. What is I'M GONNA okay? I'll just give you the leftover Pi. I'm on the clock. I am going to take Apple Pie. Which means Ben you can have pecan Pumpkin Pie? I would've taken apple. I I will take Pumpkin. Pie pecan Pie. Whatever you WANNA say? We'll probably be really good with the breakfast. I will. I wake you the results on on twitter for me. It's Mac and Cheese Green Bean casserole and apple pie for heat. So why can't you just put the. I'm having the founders instead of because if you're going to tweet it we determine game because we need people to vote on the same type of criteria mashed potatoes baked raise. If you put on there why I don't watch it a win. You need to be able to play by the rules. What about? You can't just start three running backs with the rest of us to start a tight end. Ben gets sweet potatoes. Potatoes stuffing and Pumpkin Pie. I mean obviously one the strap. This is not even a debate. I think the great all of you deserve a great night's sleep okay. Sleep is important. And that's why I'm excited to tell you about sleep number one of our sponsors great selection of beds at sleepnumber and you go to sleepnumber dot com slash F F T to get a store near you but they still. They have great deals. All the time at sleepnumber so sleep is is very important and sleep. Number's going to help you get that great sleep. Because they're smart beds are just fantastic. Sleep number beds. 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Nationwide near you at sleepnumber dot com slash F F t all right quick route a news and notes then we will read some e mails which are start sit mostly and then we will preview the Games and hopefully we'll have time at the end for the faith. Oh meter but Devon Hodges is going to start for Pittsburgh he has not been good throwing the football A started in week six and he threw twenty times for one hundred and thirty two yards. But James Cotter had seven catches in that game for seventy eight yards. He was the only steeler of more than fourteen receiving yards and last week he had the big pass play James Washington which was a joke by the bengals and he had thirty nine yards otherwise ten attempts so great great quote for Mike Tomlin has to wider. Starting dodges what was it again. He hasn't killed us. Yeah that's right. He kills doc also important note on twitter yesterday. James Washington went duck hunting with duck. Hodges is and they posted a Selfie from duck hunting with the ducks they shot. And so I'm pretty sure that means James Washington is number one option. Okay okay well. Are you going to start James Washington over like Amari Cooper at a tough bachup or Deidre Hopkins. Tough match-up no. I'm probably not but I do. Currently have James Washington projected for more fantasy points in non PR. Andy Andrea Hopkins. I do think there's something to be said about what Adam said just back onto that. He did have the long pass to Washington last week but hodges hasn't thrown down the field when he's played he's been really underneath so it's not a great the Jewish okay looking at Detroit not a great situation. Jeff Driscoll has a sore hamstring. David Blau could start for Detroit Blau Davy NBA Yesterday and said David Blau. That's his name. That name again. Is David Blau a great Simpson's reference. Thank you Dave Baltimore Center. Matt Skirt is out for the season with a knee. Injury played most of last week's game without him. And you know they were pretty good at the Rams Devante Freeman practice in full. Looks like he's GonNa play. Julio Jones has is a shoulder injury you gotta keep an eye on that it is a short week and Russell Gauges still only three percent home. Also Hooper missed practice. So he's probably not going to play. It's looking good for Adam Phelan. It's not it's not looking. It's uncertain for t y Hilton. He has the calf issue. He may not play this week against Tennessee jerrold. Everett is day-today so that one popped up and we know. We love the matchup for Gerald Everett at Arizona. Maybe Tyler higby becomes an option of Gerald. Ever can't go well and he's been better than average last two weeks every playing. Yeah that scares me a little bit forever at this week. Like where do you have Everett. Oh like nineteen or something. I have no faith that it's three targets in his last two games. I know it's Arizona. I have no faith if I could play rams tight end and I get credit for whatever they do together other. I'd be all about it but big more of them know things. Okay few more news items here. Dallas nose tackle. Antoine Woods is going to miss this game and Layton Vandross obviously out to their run defense has been very good this year but they play three games already without Antoine Woods and they did well against the dolphins running backs whatever they did well against the saints running backs three three point nine five yards per carry then they got destroyed by Aaron Jones. who had that massive game TJ Hodkinson limited in practice a chance to play this week not a terrible match Hopkinson. But he's Hopkinson and Marshon lattimore was limited in practice. So let's see what the people are asking right now. Let's help get some lineup set and read some emails and also help us a mad drops this one's from Robert half pr rest of season. devante freeman or Kareem Hunt Premium. Taking on Oh Ooh go ahead. I mentioned earlier. I don't have a lot of faith. In the in the falcons ability to generate running back fantasy points and the browns are using both their backs as to of like four players. That are touching the ball in the last three weeks since huntsman. Back no one else in that offense other than Chubb Hunt Landry Landry and Beckham has been involved to almost any degree so hunts like has a clear role even though he thought of rb to you kind of have to think about the whole team as as a whole they're playing to back sets they're getting both on the same time don't get so caught up on him being the second running back on his team he is being used and I actually think his role is probably more valuable able for fantasy than Freeman. Yeah just look at. How much freeman was involved in the passing game and that was mostly before they dealt away Mohamed Sanu and so I think you're looking at probably six to seven targets? He's GonNa get thirty or forty rushing yards. He's probably going to have forty receiving yards. So I mean I think you're looking at pretty close to a floor and half. PBR of ten fantasy points points and he does have some upside because they'll be in some high scoring games all right from J. It's GonNa be an interesting day freemen. We'll get. That's the first game will preview do that in a few minutes. The freemen against the saints whose run run defense is just spectacular but Jay is in the in the playoffs. He clicked his ticket for the playoffs. he's got Leonard Third for NAT Dalvin. Cook Aaron Jones Kevin Coleman and Alexandra Madison so cook for Net Jones Coleman and Madison which you drop Kevin Coleman to grab Rockwell Armstead or is that being too conservative but definitely not being too conservative. Not Do that wouldn't do that. Okay don't do that. Do not do that all right so similar. Question Zack. In Saint Louis has a playoff by. He has Zeke Cook and four net he has Pollard should he drop. Robert Woods is or Brandin cooks for Madison or Armstead and he's not great at receiver. He has Ridley. Juju in Gallup man. You're it's so important to get Nadison if you own cook he. I wouldn't do it for Armstead for sure. Do Drop Juju I a man. I don't WanNa drop Juju I I would probably be more likely right now. To drop brain would drop cooks. I think too. And they just can't protect golf long enough for cooks to get behind the defense and when they do Goff's missing the throws so I'd probably drop cooks for Madison because I do think Madison is one of the the most important bench player stone. If you drop cook might have cooks might have a good game this week against Zona but Seattle Dallas and San Francisco. The next three weeks probably not going to be as good. Go ahead I was GONNA say I have teams Juju and cooks where my top two receivers are somehow still in contention. I think I have two teams with that situation and I've been trying to decide which one drop I. I haven't dropped from yet so I'm GonNa take each advice and probably also dropped. I think he's right all right next email from Dan in white bear LAKE MINNESOTA NON PR. Dr Select a Flex Ridley. Chris Carson Hopkins and Mile Sanders. Ridley Chris Carson Hopkins and Sanders. This is where I don't think you have to play options. I agree with you on that. I Guess Carson's a tricky one. I think I would play Ridley. I am one hundred represent going with Calvin Ridley and a lot of it has to do with the uncertainty. I'm hoping and I doubt it especially Thanksgiving Week. They'll probably have one less practice or something. I was hopeful for that. We'd get some report about WHO's taking first team snaps. I think there's a real possibility. Reshad penny just comes out and is the feature back and we'd ever hear here anything telling us that's going to happen. I also think there's a possibility that Chris Carson has one hundred and twenty-one touchdown this week so I'm a little ridley he's can you please read the emails and just cut me out of the segment while I tweet the the side dishes so people can vote do yeah. I can't Okay Ben and do I really play Alan versus the cowboys on Thursday. Mayfield at Pittsburgh. Tannahill is out there but also doesn't have an amazing match up this week. which guy would I drop if I did pick up someone like Tannehill? First off Allan Mayfield Tannahill this week. Who Do you like the most? I think I'll take Alan Alan. I really liked that game environment. I think the cowboys are GONNA get out ahead and Alan's going to have to make blazing. He typically does a pretty decent job of that so I think they're going to be a position where he's GonNa have to make some plays with his legs and his arm. I think yeah I mean I don't really love me. I don't know that I'd trust feel enough the plan at Pitt. And what's GONNA probably be a slow game and I don't Really Trust Ryan tannehill either way. Yeah I agree with you. This is this is where Alan scheduled turns really bad but I'm starting them for one more week and then I making making plans for the fantasy playoffs because it gets even worse after this week from Nico Half Pr. Four point passing touchdown League Dak Prescott versus Sam Darnold. It's Dak for me pretty easily so Dak last week had a season low. We talk about air yards. And that's how far down the field people bro. So if you look at the quarterback you can say for all of his pass attempts how how vertical were his past himself. Far was on the field. That's a stat. Adak has been in really high in all year. He's had some of the highest single games where he's been throwing the ball down the bills being great Mari. It's been great for Michael Gallup. Last week in total weather game was a season low and we should expect act. I don't know whether game back home against the bills and other bills are a tough defense. I do expect that they will send the ball on the field a lot more. He has a lot of upside For high passing yardage. Because of that. Okay we're going to set this lineup for them. We're GONNA start with his running back one running back out of James Connor jalen Samuels David Montgomery Kenyan drake and Jamaal Williams. I'm GONNA play Drake. I really like Drake at you so heavily last week I really like his situation in that offense now now all the reasons I like David Johnston all year. Basically Kenyan drake is going to be playing that in the in the stretch on the only thing that makes me nervous about him as chase edmunds coming back. And whether he gets or coming off the bye. Hi if they try to see if David Johnson has anything left at all for a couple of series but I agree with you. Drake's guy have ranked the highest. Pick one between Kenny Golladay and Keenan Allen full. CPR Keenan Allen. Yep CNN for me. So now we've gotta pick his flex James Connor Jalen Samuels. David Montgomery Jamal Williams or Kennedy If Connors back probably going connor but I'm not sure on what his health status so I would I would. I wouldn't play. Montgomery I would wait until closer to Sunday and I would make a decision on James Connor or if he wasn't Aaron Montgomery Oregon at an find sending. Both if conor wasn't available Sunday I'd have to go another way. Yeah I think Jamal Williams I feel pretty good about in full. Pr The top twenty running back. He's just taken taken over the entirely the passing game role for the packers. He has thirteen catches since Davante Adams came back. Aaron Jones has one so so I I think see Williams. WE'LL BE WE'RE GONNA get Aaron Jones wore involved though right said we have to get Aaron Jones more more touches. I'm back well. They can try to but Jamal Williams has been just as good as him. No that's not true by the way. I took me a while to figure out how to well. He hasn't scored the touchdown touchdowns he's not been as good and famous. He's not as good so it took me a while to figure out how to spell the word braise but I'm back now go to the next female road with Uh We're not done. I got a team name Tuesday on a Wednesday. Oh Yeah it's a good one mouth breeder okay okay bill. Thank you for Jack for that. One from Joe in Brooklyn Fifth and sixth place are both are both six and six playing each other this week. Is it okay for both of them to bench players preserve tie and qualify for the playoffs. That is the definition of collusion. And you should kick them out of the League absolutely agree. Which one would you bench in half from atom? Tevin Coleman at Baltimore Robert Woods at Arizona John Brown at Dallas or Christian Kirk against the Rams C.. Coleman GRUBBER woodsy right you're benching absolute against Arizona. Yeah that's the wow. I'm surprised surprised to hear that it could be him. I'm not probably going to bench Brown or I might bench John Brown but we know he's not going to bridge bench John Brown for Christian Russian Kirk and Robert Wood Johnson. Kirk Jalen Ramsey potentially hear Christian Kirk could have Jalen Ramsey. That's a good point. Yeah Seven Coleman's Gal bunker author all right Benji Kirk all right Really tough I would branch park south from Scranton to Shawn Watson Tannahill or Sam Darnold the Sean. Yeah I played a shot in that to PR league. Ronald Jones. John Brown Brown's come on. This is easy easiest. John Brennan the Defense Jones might have three carries like. We don't ever know what Ronald Jones workloads going to be in a given week. Yeah I'm just getting I I would. I would play Brown for Mr Hobart Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes this week. What why do you still have both these guys? You'RE GONNA really bad job instarem. Just go homes in six point per passing Lamar Jackson and four and finally Carson Wentz or drew brees and is and is Tyler Boyd legitimate number two receiver now with Andy Dalton coming back breezing yes he certainly NPR all right guys. We're GONNA preview the Games. Do you ever feel like ticketing websites. Make getting to the event difficult on purpose. It's like they just don't care about customer experience. They go out of their way to make get hard for you to get to the game but not seek in an industry. That tends to stagnates seek decided to stand out from the crowd they built the fastest way to find tickets. You can stop searching for the perfect seat and start enjoying it and you can take it from me. You know me I tell you all the time I seek ed basically anytime I need to go to an event back they just coordinated with my friends. Yesterday we're going to to a basketball game on December seventeenth nine thirty. PM Basketball Game. Gosh a mom alchemy on. 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There's no wrong you should have taken like a minute or two of that time and figuring out how to spell colored crap. How do eastbound at the out? Well how do you spell like a cat. Like a collared shirt. I think the way you did okay. I don't think the same thing there's okay. There's no shirts in Collard Greens. Okay okay it's There's no there's no callers on Greens by the way six votes in and everybody has two hundred fifty five votes it. Let's get an update team. B. T. B. for Ben has forty percent of the vote by my side dishes have thirty six percent heath has twenty four all right we got had a good contest here. We could have a good one. I mean you did a pretty Thala job. I figured you'd come in Second Apple Pie. Also definitely the nut. I ah give you that one if you just put my actual meal there. I'm not going to eat any pie for dessert. And you are discriminating against me because because of my desert choice you should have taken Apple Pie. You'd probably be winning right now. Although Collard Greens is a little is not as you know is not as stuffing mashed potatoes. It's kind of I think it's further down on the list for both people have to say. Alright Stan most people haven't had bacon praised Collard Greens. Also I'd like what. Why didn't I just say Oh? Bacon braised mashed potatoes. You can't cheat and make things bacon brains. You can't Bacon braise mashed but they mashed potatoes mashed potatoes. I just love. He's response to losing. is to go all hipster and say no one's had the food that I yeah. Okay here we go here. We go here we go true. Sates at Falcons Stat of the game number one. The saints have allowed a receiving touchdown to a running back in three straight games. Brian Hill L.. Peyton Barbara in Christian McCaffrey. Does that mean anything for you. Because that's probably the only chance devante Freeman has having a really good game. He could catch a lot of passes. It doesn't get some total yards but I'd be shocked if he ran the ball. Well in this game. So what is what I think. The expectation is the as thirty rushing yards right like like I said earlier. And that's fine because my expectation is he's GONNA catch five passes for thirty or forty yards and I would say he's got a fifty fifty shot of getting into the end zone I I'm starting him with relative confidence in full. Pr in non PP. or I would treat him as more of a flex that I'm settling for okay. Bookstore comparing him to some players. Then let's get back into the game and just talk about everybody here stat of the game number two so weeks one and two the saints. They struggled a little bit against the pass but since week three there's only been one wide receiver that's had a good game against the saints with less than nine targets. And it was Chris Godwin two games games ago. He had three catches forty seven yards and a touchdown six targets other than that every receivers done well against the saints since week to a really beginning week. Three has had nine or more targets Yeah maybe maybe Calvin really gets that. He did last week maybe two weeks in a row actually for him but just throwing that out there so I guess we'll start with the falcons. Yes go ahead. We talked about Atlanta throws more passes than any team in the league and they are a lot thinner. Now with Austin Hooper out and Mama's new being traded so well we should expect governor early to get volume when he has the last couple of weeks. Yeah yes all right. So Matt Ryan Is Ninth for for Heath and sounds like Ben Likes Matt Ryan Ryan to Dave and Jamie. Don't he's not playing that well. I mean it's four games in a row where he hasn't played well. He got injured in one of them but he still through twenty seven passes. It was horrible against the rams. Eighteen points wins at the saints. Eighteen points of Carolina Russell Gauge dropped touchdown. We're talking twenty four points there so the saints. It's hard to know how this matchup is because the saints with Latimore have a pretty good pass defense without him. I'm not quite sure They gave up twenty eight points to Kyle Allen last week so we'll we'll stick with what he's been better on the show today so we're saying Kyle Susie Matt Ryan is a start and he has one spot ahead of the Shawn Watson behind James Behind Carson Wentz. WHO's got Miami but ahead of Watson and Kyle Murray Nick Foles Josh Allen devante free. I mean this game is the easiest I think of the three. But let's talk about the freemen. Would you start art. Jonathan Jonathan Williams Bo scarbrough Rashad panty over devante Freeman. Williams is the only one and only a non PR. I'd rather start Freeman over Williams NPR. For sure I'd start Freeman over scarborough and penny any like we don't know sharpen get four carries and I wouldn't be particularly surprised right I wanted to add penny and I one of my bench but I I have no interest in starting him okay. How about Devante Freeman or? Let's say Todd Gurley at Arizona. I blamed Girlie girlie non PR and Freeman NPR. Like I think he is one of the biggest splits in terms of his value in the two formats this week. Okay so Julio Jones is Calvin really a must start obviously Julio Jones get you're gonNA start him if he plays Calvin really start top. Twelve receives me okay okay. Ben Drew Brees Top-five we like him. Kamera Latavius Murray. How do you see that? Going chemic- Chimera and Maria. It seems weird. That's that's feels like Abba cameras not playing that well. He's actually averaging over five yards per carry in his last three games since coming back from the injury but only like five point five yards per catch which is weird and he still has only two touchdowns this year. It's the touchdowns right and the like last week. Murray score but Mirsky for twenty four twenty six yards out on a on a run run that broke open. They didn't get any Neither of the back Scott any touches in the Green Zone last week I do and if you look at a larger sample Chimera has got more touches than that era I do still think Kamara will be the lead guy in that area. He's always been really good in the Green Zone. His two touchdowns is bizarre. Because the saints really feature that running backs in close obviously miss some time but I really expect to merit labs some some big touchdown. Games is a multi touchdown games before the season. I look everybody started Kamera but are you. Starting Tavis Murray. I guess I don't want and wouldn't okay. I don't want to. I think he's a fine flex in a non or half. Pr Devante Freeman or Latavius. Murray Freeman Freeman in both okay the and obviously NPR Freeman as well. Michael Thomas the only Saints Wide Receiver. Were starting here. Yes all right Falcons give up the third most fantasy points to wide receivers a little bit better lately. But still he's Michael. Thomas and Jared Cook is a top five tight end and non top seven. Pr The falcons. Struggle against tight ends is. This is a good matchup. Six catches for seventy four yards on ten targets. Against the Falcons in week. Ten Not really much to say there. I'm just GonNa look at the tight ends that you have ahead of him. Kelsey kiddle Henry Erz and that. It's jared cook. That's pretty much. It so Darren Darren Waller. You have cook ahead would you start wallover cooking. I would and I do think there's a chance that waller will be better in both. This hunter renfro injury. Could Really Cause Waller's ars targets despite back up but I think it non PR. I'd probably just go with Cook. All right how much do you like the saints. Ds Thi this week okay. I don't really adamant seems like you think Atlanta's like not gonNA score any points. I'm kind of curious where they're gonNA get their points. 'cause said they can't run and you seem. I'm a little skeptical of right now. I'm just wondering like you're going to have a really back. I don't think I don't think they're gonNA score. I don't think they're gonNA have a huge game. I don't yeah I I. If marshon lattimore were playing that it might be really really tough and he might play. He was limited in practice. But if he doesn't play you know I think they should score in the twenty one to twenty four point range but I don't think we're GONNA get like thirty five to thirty or anything like that. Do you think those points dumb though because you said it has almost no shot to score rushing G so we should expect a couple passing. Yeah Yeah Yeah I like I like them. I think you know to fifty into something like that and you know hopefully Ridley gets one. Hopefully Julio gets it's one although he hasn't scored Since Week Three Buffalo is at Dallas and We're GONNA take a quick break for a word from our sponsors and we'll come back and talk about the bills the cowboys. Oh yeah this. Is Brian Campbell with the CBS. 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Yeah I would rather other starts single terry like again. He's in that group of wide rece or running backs that I would start single terry. Over Freeman and non. I would prefer Freeman and P. P. R.. I I could live without the gold zone carries for Devon single terry if they just start throwing him the football a little bit more but he's really lost the target share air over the last two or three weeks. Hopefully that comes back against the cowboys. He's a low end borderline number two running back in both format and then I think this is a really tough game because the bills defense has been really good but this will be the best offense. They've faced meanwhile to me. The cowboys have faced somewhere between two and four difficult match ups on defense defensively the saints and the Patriots to me are tough match-up especially those are both road games. And they were horrible in those two games. The conditions didn't help at the Patriots Right. They also face the Eagles who've gotten better but at the time they face them. I don't think that was a very tough match up. And they face the Vikings who a solid defense and they crush the vikings and. They're better at home so I don't really know what to expect from the cowboys. Do you think they will score. Do you think they will have a good offense showing against the bills. I mean Jerry. Jones may have some comments this week. I think they're going to be very motivated. I it's not something really hang your hat on but I I'm buying into it. I think they will be more aggressive. Offensively early I don't think they'll just settle for a bunch of Russia's right up the middle I think they'll be pushing the ball down the field and I do expect that they'll score quite a few points early. Frankly Leeann I think they'll get out to a lead now. I think Josh Allen is a kind of kind of quarterback that plays well when he's trailing because he can scramble. I can make plays. You could be a little bit of You you know. I don't want to go all the way and calm a magician. But he's a he's a playmaker right so I think this game's ended up being kind of high scoring. I think Dallas being motivated will come out with you know a strong game. Aim plan to try to put points up early and make a statement and I think Buffalo's GonNa have to turn up the tempo a little bit offensively and so I'm yeah I'm excited about this game. Actually Yeah I could see those are those are good points and the there Josh Allens best games were both against the dolphins but they happen to be. I think the dolphins believe it or not score scored the most points against the bills this year. So there's a little bit I believe it. Yeah it's crazy so to you. Know Higher Scoring Games more fantasy production for Allen but also he's rush for fifty six yards in two straight games. So here's a fun one heath. Why don't you rank the four quarterbacks in the two games that we've talked about the saints game and this game ranked the four quarterbacks for us I would go breeze Dak Ryan Alan but all four of them are in my top thirteen quarterback so I think Alan like I put him right there in that group? I've got four streaming options this week. The projected right around twenty two fantasy points. It's it's Nick Foles Ryan Tannehill Andy Dalton and Sam Darnold. Josh Allen is just right in the middle of those guys which to me means. You're probably just starting Josh Allen. I'm probably not dropping someone one to pick up one of those guys distort over him. Do you see a chance for Allen and doctors have terrible games. 'cause like the cowboys. Allow the ninth fewest. Fantasy points to quarterbacks Tom Brady just scored thirteen. But Jeff Driscoll did score thirty one and he ran for fifty one yards a touchdown and then you know for doc. The bills they've been. They've been outstanding against quarterbacks. been crazy they just haven't played anybody. That's any good. I mean that's true. But they were good against quarterbacks last year like we know they have a the defense that right I don't I don't worry as like I think. They are on the spectrum of defenses that matter but they matter less less when they're not at home and this is a Thanksgiving game so they're going to be far more entertaining. Just because it's on Thanksgiving I could buy it or the cowboys you know really showing up for this game. Okay so Devon Single Terry Josh Allen. We talked about John Brown I hope he brings him down a little bit of the rankings. I don't know I don't know I've got DJ more seventh. Does that two hundred no. Let's go to low well just another stat on single terry last four week. Well forget it because the cowboys are a little banged up on the defensive line. So we single terry decent starter single Terry. or how many wide receivers in this game would you start over for single terry in P P probably three. Yeah who would they be the the three good ones Brown Cooper and gallant. Who would they be well? Excuse me Randall. COBB has two straight hundred yard games. No well he did have two straight hundred games games and then he had an eighty six yard. Sorry three straight eighty six yard games. He had to have the most yards receiver against the Patriots or to Golden Tate. Add more but you know one of the cowboys. Yeah he had more than than Kuprin Gal. I talked about just in the cowboys. No single theory over COBB. So Ah so Amari Cooper and Michael Gal were must start stu no. They're not no Cooper's close use to a must start but like I would still start John Brown. Dj More Devante Parker over him. So I have a hard time calling him. A mustard I would call Gallup more of a high end number three. Okay okay. Yeah Wide receivers against the bills devante Parker had good Games. Twice Jarvis. Landry had a good game audiotaped. Jamison crowder had fourteen catches for ninety nine yards who struggled against the bills. The the Patriots wide receivers were terrible. Al Shamas Terrible maclaurin was bad. Beckham was bad sutton was bad. So those are elite outside number one receivers that have struggled because they've have all gotten Davis wife named a lot of slot receivers that have been productive and I do agree but I still think you bank on especially at this game environment becomes a little bit back and forth you bank on Amari at home because he's been so much better home. That's where I'm at and I liked Gal won't get Davis White so I actually like him quite a bit. Randall COBB. Well here's a cool stat on rental car. He said seventy eight targets in four straight games. I looked at every wide receiver. WHO said seven eight targets against the bills it has not gone well There have been five of them and four of them were terrible Preston Williams at six catches for eighty. The two yards doesn't always mean anything but it's interesting. That's not a good range of targets for receivers against the bills. Ben Ben. Would you actually start Gallup over Cooper I mean I'm close like I kind of am a little bit in that range. I his his usage. When he's been healthy this year has been really good? Good incomparable to Cooper and like his match up so much more this week that I I don't think it's out of the question. Would you start. Let's just say Todd Gurley or Jonathan Williams two running backs who want is a really good matchup Williams going to get a lot of work. which started them over? Amari Cooper or Michael Gallup for probably not the thing with Cooper that we know now is that it's upside is massive right. He can break these big plays. He did it on Thanksgiving a couple years ago where he was like held out Held down pretty much for like three quarters and I think he had two long on cutch downs in the fourth quarter ends up. The game went to overtime. I can't remember the exact details but ends up with a thirty five forty point game at home I just I have a hard time. Fading Him I just know that his upside is so high. So I want those guys in my lineup. We've talked about that a lot over the last few weeks and non P. P. R.. I would start Jonathan Williams and Todd Gurley early over him overall all the cowboys receivers NPR. I prefer the receivers okay Okay then let's This game's pretty much done on. Start Ezekiel Elliott's Dak Prescott eleventh for Jamie eighth for Dave and fifth for heat is still fit for you. I did that yesterday. So might have changed. Just fifth for you okay I like the cops all just chime in on that and I like you're kinda noting and you named all the players who have done well against buffalo that Ben slot receivers. I like to call too. I think if people lert are really thin it receiver. I think that's pretty good stinky flexible at WHO's a better sneaky flex play Randall. Cobb a Russell Gauge Cobb on all right can we preview Chicago Detroit in three minutes before we have to shift over to our well. I was like a thirty eight over under. Who Do you like in this game? There are there is not a must start player in this game. There are several what about what about Robinson Alan Robinson is the best player in this game to start And I think he's a low in number two but there are plenty of guys that were available in the waiver wire or or drafted after Alan Robinson that I would start over him so I wouldn't call them must start. I do prefer him to kindergarten. Day I mean if David Blau starts at quarterback for lions ends than you just I think you have to get away from all the lines. You can't really even consider them. This is a guy who was behind Jeff Driscoll on the depth chart. Yeah I think the only guy you consider would be scarborough scarborough. He'll probably get twenty five carries and they'll just run and the bears have been struggling as a run de Tocqueville hope alkaline. Now let me say something because I thought so too. The bears actually and without Akiem Hicks in either the Games. He missed or the gaming which he got injured. Three point seven three yards per carry two running backs but they've given up ten rushing eight touchdowns in eight games. So that's that's one of those situations where I probably care more about the Gary than I do. The same fantasy points allowed same here so they really haven't been that bad against running backs. I thought I because I thought it was good match. I'm not sure that it is and I'm not sure it's a good match for anyone. Except for two Rico in in terms of running backs ask because the you know the lions defense. They're they're not that bad against the run either even though they give up I think the third most fantasy points to running backs the yards per carry. They're not so bad. They gave up receptions. They give touchdowns and three Cohen actually did catch a touchdown in the first meeting just a few weeks ago. GUMRI would still be my favorite favorite running back in the game but I'd go Montgomery Cohen and then scarborough and PR really. What about KNOB? You're a montgomery scarborough. Then Cohen Cohen. I mean scarves still going to get fifteen plus carries. I'm not saying right but it but it's it's so he is next year when Ben writes it's the trap article though scarborough is going to be in the cover and He he is the ultimate troutbeck. Okay so so. devante Freeman are devante. Freeman Devon Single Terry ahead of these guys. Pr For sure. Yes they are. They're ahead of these. All of these guys for me all right even with Kevin Coleman 'cause are sorry Cohen to Rico and has Three straight games with four or more catches catches two touchdowns in those three games. Integrate matchup I thought it was kinda sneaky. I think he's Kinda sneaky. He's a top thirty back and PR. We are for me. I I like him. Okay as a Flex Ben Apologize. I'm GonNa cut you out here just to get heath's thoughts before. We end his portion of the show Allen Robinson in or the cowboys wide receivers I do actually like Amari Cooper just a little bit more than Allen Robinson but that might change and by the end of the day like that. They're both in that low in number two range Alan Robbins Center like decay. Metcalf can I'll go with decay. Okay Okay Jamison crowder or Robinson. I'll go with Allen Robinson there for sure I I like him. You're just asking me some guys that I probably have ranked a little higher than consensus. Would you start. Anthony Miller over the lions wide receivers. I really don't think is crazy. Question Asks Considering Taylor. Gabriel has a concussion. Right now. Miller has Twenty twenty targets in his last two games. I'm glad you brought up Anthony Miller because I think he's playing a lot better P briscoe was talking about how he's not thinking anymore and so he's running routes a lot faster than it used to. Who like he knows what he's supposed to do and he's talented? If David Blau is the starting quarterback for the Lions I do think I would rather starting Anthony Miller than any lions wide receiver but if Jeff Driscoll's quarterback I'm starting Golladay Jones over Miller. Okay Miller Cohen even trubisky. These guys are good defense plays maybe they're solid sleepers. They have have good matchups. And that's pretty much this game hope. That was helpful. Everybody Ben and I will finish up the show with a little bit of the faith. Oh meter bears the St St is a top five DSP by the way so you could start them this week and By heath heavy happy Thanksgiving buddy. Happy Thanksgiving to you Adam and youtube as well been all right you too man. We'll be right back. No break right to the right to the final portion of the show. Let's check in on the twitter results. Here which is is the Best Combo of Thanksgiving side dishes and Pie. Mac and Cheese Green Bean casserole and Apple Pie has thirty. Five percent of the vote. Stuffing sweet potatoes Rosen. Pumpkin Pie has forty percent of the vote and mashed potatoes Bacon. Braise Collard Greens. And PECAN PECAN. Pie has twenty five percent. So ben you are currently in the league. Congratulations relations. Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious. It's not like I don't even feel like comfortable like celebrating that. I beat you guys with your terrible food takes in in a food draft. I would've been disappointed. That's what the expectations were back. And Cheese is is the best come out like you gotta play the stuffing and Thanksgiving. It's giving it I. It fits in fine but I don't even think it's a necessity at a Thanksgiving dinner. I agree we pretty much never have MAC and cheese Thanksgiving well at least in my light. My parents don't but my in laws do I'm pretty sure but that might just be for the kids but I eat it every year anyway. Okay let's do the faith though meter zero to ten just in general. You've got these guys on your team. How much faith do you have in them? Jameis Winston Oh eight for fantasy. I mean in real life like one but it doesn't matter like last week was example through too bad interceptions. In the first quarter he also long touchdown and he continued to throw all game and ended up with good fantasy number so it doesn't matter that he's bad he's going to continue to throw a ton. So what is it now. Three hundred plus yards in eight of his last nine games which is crazy it's crazy Carson Wentz and like the schedule rules about to get so good Miami giants and Redskins Carson wentz faith in Carson. Wentz is probably like a four. I mean and that's just because the schedule's good good like I. I do get that. The schedule is going to become good. But they don't have any good receiving options. I'm afraid they're gonNA turn pretty conservative. They will get healthy eventually as well but ah just not. There often isn't been right all year. They really were counting on to Sean Jackson. Being Afield Stretcher and really creating Throwing lions underneath and they just haven't had that feels stretcher. That you're pretty much all year. By the way I just a quick thought here I forgot to mention Cole Beasley when we were previewing. The cowboys bills game. It is a revenge game for Kobi's Louis He's a number three receiver for Dave and Jamie he's not ranked at least in non. NPR is not ranked for heath top. Forty eight every buffalo bill target going to John. He's not bad too. I mean you've got some Anthony Miller Russell gauge Cole Beasley these guys could be solid especially Miller engage. NPR NPR Beasley. Doesn't catch on a pass because they don't throw it on a passes back to the faith o meter here miles sanders let's assume Jordan Howard's out and let's just do went for this week. We'll take it week by week. Mile Sanders at Miami. I'm going to say like a six. I it's stuff. He hasn't been very good running. The ball I think passing work will bounce back. He's had a really passing roll all year. The Patriots really tried to take him out of that game two weeks ago. He didn't really have a Lotta water receiving last week. I think you'll get some some receiving as we go forward but I it's hard to just be completely all in on him. It's really I think if you're trying to compare mile sanders there's too like Amari Cooper Michael Gallup Randall. Cobb John Brown Kobe's Lee these wide receivers. Who are in tough matchups? I think it's tough because obviously he's got a great chance. If he has fifteen touches against the dolphins he could have a really good game he could score but maybe they get. Jj maybe Jordan Howard comes back and we won't know that on Thursday so it's I don't know what to recommend when it comes to mile sanders like I'd probably start him over Marvin Jones you know but but I wouldn't start I'd start Robinson over Mile Sanders I'd start Calvin really over miles sanders I think part of it is the third option you have to because a lot of those guys on Thursday might not have really high upside and sanders could if if Howard's out again I think I would prefer upside if we knew Howard was out if you have a decent recent third option that's comparable you can bench the Thursday guys and hope that Sanders will have the lead the lead role again but then if Howard's back you can go to that third option yes I think I'm going to start Amari cooper though just because of what you've been saying just so good he's got upside Bo scarbrough Barbro Faith O. meter Yeah in the short term. It's a I mean he absolutely trap back. Never never gonNA see any receiving in in the short term in you know in a match up against Chicago where I think he's GonNa get so you mentioned rushing than I thought in terms of yards yards per carry and I think that's a really good note I didn't know but their teams are so afraid to throw against them that they are running a lot. There's a few like they've had three backs go for over twenty five carries against them and they don't the bears don't run away offensively from teams so the lines will be in the game and I feel very comfortable that they're not going to be blown out and that scarborough will continue to get carried so he'll at least accumulate rushing yards. You know he's like a five because he's not going to be like a huge hit but he's going to run a lot Ronald Jones. Todd Gurley who do you have more faith in going forward Jumps wow just by a little bit but because I don't not really like Jones usage but I have more faith Jones a talent right now. I don't know Todd Gurley really has as much burst Jones. Frankly in both offensive lines are bad so the they're actually a really good comp. I think Jones can overcome circumstances. Perhaps better than girly at this point. saquon Barkley Chris Carson. How much faith do you have in them? Barkley faith in the workload so I'll give him like an eight carson is is like a six. He still played in the passing in game. After both of US fumbles He caught a pass two plays later on the on the very next drive. Although penny took every carry all five of the carries from that point on so so penny seems like he could definitely work in and take a lot of work but I think they don't necessarily trust him in the passing gave me out. I think Arsenal probably still be the guy in the passing I still expect Carson employees a decent amount. So I'm I'm I'm worried about him but he's probably like five. He's not like a one last. Three Games for Barkley had been pretty ugly face the cowboys the jets and the bears and Dan all three of those teams are pretty good against the run. If not great against the run and the packers. This week are terrible against the run. They gave up five yards per carry running backs and the third most fantasy point. So I think this will be a pretty telling week for saquon Barkley and finally I will ask you Jamison crowder and Cortlandt Sutton Robert Woods Marquees Brown. Who among that group? Do you have faith in crowder sutton woods and Markey's Brown in Brown's schedule not great the next two weeks would whatever Anyway crowder sudden woods Brown. Yeah I mean Braun is like date. This offense is great. He's our number one receiver. They obviously use a tight ends a lot. He's got like he three straight games with four drake certified provider. Tara Jalen Ramsey would shut him down last week. You see Jalen Ramsey that much. I don't think I was trying to track that. But that's the point. Their offense makes it definitely gets five targets. He has had fifty less than fifty yards and six of nine games. Even this gaming it forty two yards. I actually had seven targets in this game but usually it's four targets Different type offense right there. Run heavy offense but they can score a ton of points like his profile. Isn't going to be a high target guys going to be an explosive downfield. Play guy in a high touchdown touchdown rate guy because they're scoring so much a little unreliable. I think okay. Yeah that's probably true and Robert Woods. I have faith in court. I have way more famous Talat in his fantasy production. I I'm GonNa sit him in quite a few leagues this week Just because we don't know as quarterback situation I'm hoping comes back and help sutton but right now Brennan Allen completed ten passes last week. It's great for receiving work. There Jamison crowder. Is You know right in the middle of the of faith meteoroid five okay all right then thank you very much. Everybody having a great thanksgiving. We'll talk to you with With another Thanksgiving Thanksgiving episode tomorrow actual Thanksgiving but If you're out of town if you're traveling sir have a great trip. We'll talk to you whenever you're backing by.

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11/08: Start or Sit (NFC); Beat the Waiver Wire; LAC-OAK (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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11/08: Start or Sit (NFC); Beat the Waiver Wire; LAC-OAK (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports golf email us at fantasy football ed CBS. I DOT COM it upset. It's time I started or sit. Here's Janey Anti. Oh yeah we got some good Games review today six. NFC Hawkins not likes those crappy. AMC Home Games. We got some good ones like like Viking cowboys. Voice Dave I cannot so good. Why can't figure this out? I don't know what's going to happen. I think there's a chance I do. Oh okay I think there's a chance the cowboys just humble the Vikings and put on a great showing but I think I think the Vikings go in there. What's going to happen what you tell me what's going to happen? Well what do you know about kirk cousins. When he plays winning house take time and the rankings? Reflect that this week. It's just out of a Dave today by the way so I get to pick apart the rankings a little bit. It should be fun. I'm surprised pick apart the rankings when everybody's here Yeah I do. I don't know why is that I can talk today. I think Bush finally get a word today. White White Guy so why guys so low on David. Montgomery made a mistake. I assume I started. started him over. Melvin Gordon but I've why why. Why because he's got a great match up the lions most fantasy points the running backs one thing that I really should have done a better job of preaching around this time? Maybe a few weeks ago I probably started is the importance of running backs pulling on Thursday night and the theory that I've been running with for years that it takes a running back. You know just a few days to get his act together ready to play another game of football whereas defense. We're talking about eleven eleven guys that have to all come together in four days time to get healthy and get their bodies ready assuming that they're healthy and that it's a starter unit to go play on on Thursday night and that usually doesn't work out well for the defense and it does work out well for the running back. I really wish I could go back in time. And say that about Kenyan Drake but drake's big game last Thursday made me wake up and realize. Hey there's probably a good opportunity for Melvin Gordon Awesome and Josh Jacobs to have good games against Z.. Charter in the Thursday night game. In this week I was on top of that. Melvin Gordon was a top five or six this week and Josh Jacobs was fourth for me so I really went in all in on those two guys and it worked out it did. It was because it was Thursday echo got touchdown the lions though fifteen fifteen or more non fantasy does he points to a running back in seven of eight games this year. That's the lions and that's David Montgomery is match up so I don't think I don't think Montgomery is going to be bad this week. Let's just put it that way. Okay Matt Ryan at the Saints. He's like tenth eleventh for you guys. That's interesting worried about turnovers. I can only speak for myself. I can't speak for repeat or Jamie but I. I think that there could be concerned about turnovers. Bad play getting sacked. A lot could be a lot of garbage time. Where Matt Ryan actually steps steps up love men Fan? Do I think he could end up being a pretty sneaky play. I don't think a lot of people are turning to him as a fan duel play this week. Look at his history at New Orleans. It's good not great which is kind of like where you guys have him ranked all right. So let's talk about Oakland twenty-six and the chargers twenty four and we'll get into the NFC home games. We have some injury updates dates for you. Patrick Mahomes is going to play that official. I think they reported that. On the on the pre-game I don't think it's officially official. Usually those things happen either on Fridays when a player is listed on the injury report or on Sunday when a players made active. I think it would be Kinda. dopey of Andy Reid to make him. Questionable and B coy. Oy about it. When he's had full practice book was alluding to it like they're getting mahomes back? I think he said they reported it on their pre-game show but I haven't seen Joe says it says is it. Yeah Joe knows as rob said all right so. I'm not saying that was sarcasm. So yeah that probably means that Mahomes as planned lasts. It looked that way anyway last night. Oakland Twenty Twenty Six and the chargers twenty four was fine. I gotTa tell you though. I'm really mad at Philip rivers but more on that in a minute. Let's let's get this twitter poll. I said I was going to start the show with here. I'm going to ask Dave a buyer sell but I you get to weigh in with a special twitter. Poll buyer sell. Melvin Gordon is a stood fantasy running back again ed. Seventy five percent are buying it. Six percent are selling it. What side are you on? Melvin Gordon is a stud fantasy running back again buy or sell. I'm buying it He looks great and I was talking on the radio in Tampa this morning about how this would have been about the time of year when he would have had to come back from the holdout if he wanted to get credit for twenty nineteen and if this was his first game back from that hold out he probably would have looked like the guy that we saw three weeks ago. Where just wasn't doesn't quite the same? Melvin Gordon but now that he's had a chance to really get his legs under him and work his way back into football shape. You're getting the guy that we remember. Thank goodness and it look good too. Because that raiders defense. I think they're improving at him. I think they're going to be a better unit next year. I'm interested to see how they maneuver this offseason but for this game mm-hmm despite about offensive. Line Melvin Gordon was creating yards and making plays and doing all the things that I love and he was also the guy working inside the five for the chargers in this team should continue they. They should have leaned on him even more in this game. Oh yeah they did. Because Philip Rivers was not Philip rivers was not on his a game. How about this four of their each of their first six runs runs? were for four yards or more and that includes when they're marching downfield the beginning the game rivers throws an interception gets called back. What does he do? He throws an interception later on. They should should have stuck with their ground. Game more and they would have won this game against the raiders. And they didn't do it. So maybe this whole change of coordinators isn't all about just making Melvin Gordon. In great they're trying to get Philip rivers. Go into we'll talk about rivers and amid. Yeah well I mean okay. So Gordon ends up with twenty two carries one hundred eight yards and a touchdown. I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line. Because that's still a concern. I mean the big one. The raiders have have a good run defense. They've had a good run defense this year and they were there to make the plays but Gordon was so good I mean it was such an unusual game because he really an ordinary running back may have had a dreadful game against the raiders. It wasn't like he kept getting to the second level before for being contacted. He was spinning away from players breaking tackles he was outstanding but the offensive line was terrible. The raiders if you missed the game the raiders basically basically rush for the entire night and they kept getting to filter they got there. They call and Matthias. Goodness Melvin. Gordon was able to slip tackles. It's the only reason why he had a good game. So so so so I'm still concerned about their offensive line and what that means for him but so many carries is to strains twenty carries. Now that's good and yeah I think you know you certainly have to buy in as much star guy at this point echo on the other hand. It's now I think. Five five five running backs of quarter touchdown. Down against the raiders in their last four games. So he got saved by that yeah. They're terrible passing game. Yeah but but I think I'm so nervous to start a me. I'm surprised he was started in eighty two percent of leagues and he still didn't have that good of a game it'll Levin. Pr Fantasy points. He's being phased out day of even you know there's not enough of he will he might have an attached game here or there but it's so hard to predict and he got lucky with that touchdown. Catch so are you. Are You you confident. Starting Ecuador going forward. Are you nervous. Are you sitting them. It's a week to week thing with her next week. They take on the chiefs. It's a game where they're gonNA have to throw the football. Also I imagine his target share will rise in that game releases targets in general not share will because you know all their targets are GONNA go up in that one but if if they hey come out of this loss thinking well we'd better run the ball a little bit more. That'll mean more carries for us in Ecuador too. Because they can't give Melvin Gordon. Well maybe they could give twenty ought to thirty carries. That's the former navy chief right. Yeah maybe that's what they do. Maybe and if they're not going to resign them what do they care. They're going to run them in the ground and try and win some games right so I'm not ready. I think toward the end of the number two running back range all right anything else in this game Keenan Allen solid NPR. He had eighteen rushing yards. He he had eight catches sixty eight yards. Knock rate. That's six straight games with less than seventy yards and no touchdowns Mike Williams had one big play but two catches for fifty five yards on three target's share is really disappointing. One Hundred Henry Stop By. Philip rivers led us down. He just had a bad game. I mean there's really no way to say it. He had a bad game. Josh Jacob scored that touchdown guys needed the most were Jacobson rivers. Jacob scored that touchdown and then I tweeted needed. That if Philip rivers scores a touchdown I will sing and dance. What's on the show tomorrow? And all very lucky because he threw an interception now. I don't have to sing and dance. And you're all spared but he would have been the song what would have been the song I was thinking of writing a parody. Ready to river of dreams I could worked rivers. Have Dreams something like that You know on a Thursday day for that interception thank you. I thought this was rivers worse. Game of the year he was he was way off. And it's almost like you watch him miss on so many throws and you think to yourself. Is this him falling apart. And then you go look at the game log and you see his previous games and he was doing fine so i. I'm not ready to say that. This is the beginning at the end of Philip Rivers. And I don't ever really want to say that because I've enjoyed a longstanding. It's not really a friendship. I just think he's really good. It's a one way French. Sorry sorry sorry sorry I was just you know lost my mind for a second look I I was. Yeah okay fine. I have a crush on Philip rivers. Yeah as a football player directly as a football player. This was not him his usual game and I'm going to watch him a little bit more carefully over the next couple of weeks. You're probably not gonNA feel great starting them against Kansas City in week. Eleven okay so I guess. We'll talk about him on Tuesday whether or not he's droppable droppable. It'd be looking at the rain and I'm just wondering I'm wondering how many people watching the video including the folks in our control room. We're wondering if if they thought I really just like died for talking talking about Philip Rivers. It was wondering swoon. Derek yes Derek Carr did not have a good fantasy game fourteen fantasy points. But he's got the bengals in the jets and the chiefs so better matchups come. It's actually great schedule yet. If you've got a quarterback on by eleven week twelve cars a contender for you. Josh Jacobs is amazing. Little bit involved in the passing game but they came out in a four minute drill on their game winning drive and they had Jalen on the field and Rashard is now L. Head to straight games with a pretty good amount of receiving yards what he had forty-three in this game yet fifty six the week before so jacobs is not an every down player yet but he did Finish off with that touchdown which was nice And then Tarawa talk about tyrone Williams and Hunter Renfrew. I guess renfro emerging a little bit. Maybe taking away okay. From from Darren walls he is I was gonna say he's taking away work from everybody but map there's a definite correlation look Waller's last three games. He was saved by touchdown channing against Houston and then against Detroit. You'd think he'd go off. You only two targets in that game. You'll eat five targets on Thursday against the against the chargers whereas Renfro now as is it's up to sixteen targets in his last three games and he's caught fourteen of them and he's he's he was a coming out. He was a very solid slot. Receiver fever good route runner. Good hands a little undersized and not very fast and he's just finding ways to get open in for for the raiders. He's he is a piece of their offense offense moving forward and a decent lore P. P. R. Receiver for the rest of this year for fantasy. How do you feel about tyrod Williams and Darren Waller our? Let's start with Tyrel who I just think. He's pretty much a touchdown dependent slash big play dependent receiver and not a genuine number. One guy he could get going in the next couple of weeks because you you mentioned what the schedule is coming up for Oakland if we like Derek Carr is number one receiver is still tyrel and I think he could have a chance chance you can go with him as a flex waller. I think you're still going to try it out there. As a as a tight end you can consider some other options and maybe carry a second anti then if you think the waller trained starting to slow down and if you can't trust you if you can't trust them in some of these match-ups coming up you think would be ones ones that are going to be good for Jeff Jacobs because they're gonNA. The raiders could have a lead in a lot of these games. That would obviously continue to hurt the target share for one d waller. That is the raiders with two point. Win And in playoff contention over the chargers and No complaint more than five targets in this game so it wasn't it wasn't not match up was a tough match for sure to promote real quick ask F. F. T. R. Hashtag HASHTAG ASK F F T. You can use that this weekend. Answer your questions and I'll be doing that on Saturday. Dave will be doing that on Sunday. The other guys will be doing it throughout the weekend as well. Ask F. T. HE HASHTAG ask F. F. T. on twitter. We've got the Saturday night. Radio show Dave. Are you excited atom. Of course I love it. This is what we do for two hours. Live on the air helping people you guys call in and we give you the fantasy advice that you ask for. It could be any question. Sometimes people call in Adam you know this they do an inside joke. Gone the show It it's great. We have a really good time. It's on Saturday night. So in between your big time partying you know you go to a Kager and then you go to a nightclub club and then you go to a raver wherever you guys are doing. I like to stay home in knit. Usually on a Saturday night but this Saturday night. I'll be knitting while on the air with you. Guys give us a call. We'll answer your questions questions and we'll talk for a few minutes until ten pm ten PM and midnight eastern on. CBS sweater. That I made for you by the way it's actually it's terrible. You are awful at dating and by the way I'm not on the show with you tomorrow Dave. I'm sorry I'm taking the night off okay. 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Just based on the idea that the lions are gonNA throw a lot and you're hoping that he can come down with some good volume. I did like him a little bit better when I thought. TJ Hodkinson wasn't gonNA play now that Hopkinson looks like he's going to be back in the mix. That's just a few more targets that could go away from Marvin Jones. But he's he's a candidate for as many as seven targets in a game and always a chance that he scores the lions have allowed fewer more non PPO non PR fantasy points in seven. Having to make games I mentioned that Arizona and Tampa Bay playing this week and They give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks they are wanting to match department. You know I had to give it up in a few weeks. It's coming back. It's coming back today. This is where it's hiring the banana. Well they Jay Moore your well today is going to be a five day a Lotta shootouts. A running back about Ronald Jones real quick a running back has rushed for seventy two or more yards in seven straight games against the cardinals. Six of those seven running backs we've done that. Seventy two more rushing yards average. Four point six yards per carrie or better we're talking McCaffrey. Carson Mixing Freeman those guys. Stink Freeman anyway. Barkley the TAVIS. Murray Brita They all had fifteen or more carries. But that's a nice floor. Seventy two or more yards and seven straight and. That's where I rang them. That's why I ranked them. I ranked him on that being his floor. I don't want to be on. The record saying Ronald Jones is going to score and get hundred twenty total yards. I just. I'm not ready to go there yet with him. He's just outside my top up twenty four running back all right for you. devante Freeman owners. This won't come as a surprise but on a per game basis. He's the number thirty one running back and non PR number nineteen NPR. He's on pace for seventy catches and eighty targets. This year facing the saints they give up the six fewest receiving yards per game. They have not given up a receiving giving touchdown but five running backs had four catches against New Orleans and by the way with Sheldon Reagan's one running back in five games as rush for more than thirty. I five yards. yikes against the saints. He is a difference maker day. There's something I kept meeting to mention on Sunday. Show Monday Tuesday. I never you mentioned it Chris ours and I'll work on. I'll work on my breath. The Chris cars in fumbled twice in weeknight. Oh that of course. That's what you were talking about. I felt like that needed to be mentioned. Should be shot petty. This is the problem here. Yeah you could you could It's it's definitely a problem. I don't know if it means that this is you know he's done it. How many phone calls does he have this year? Five six. I think six putting the ball. All over the place fears in New England. He'd be on the practice squad by now right right but the seahawks still really like his style and they really trust them and they wanNA keep keep him on the field and I don't know how much they're ready to trust. Rashad Benny sure you can. You can add penny the list of stash running backs just in case Carson. It does lay down again and Pete Carroll just says enough but he says in a really nice way because let's be Carol figgy his five. Fumbles but no I because I could have lost all five of them. Now he's lost. He's lost four out of five. Okay well four out of five is pretty bad here. Are Your News and notes. James cotter better not expected to play according to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Where's Jalen Sam for you? Top twenty four running back in non PR closer to top fifteen twelve in full pr. It is a tougher match form this week against the rams yet. How about Samuel's verses Ronald Jones? PBR It's easy to go. Samuels and I've got just ahead of them in non PR okay task homes practice in full. We expect him the play. Aj Green had a setback and is out indefinitely dropper hold aj agreed. I I can't tell people to hold onto him with confidence I said he's GonNa come back and be a great receiver and maybe the reason why he's having a setback is because he's realizing what we've been talking about on this podcast this week. He doesn't WANNA come back. And play with this crummy crummy bengals team. That's going nowhere fast. I'm I'm I'm afraid that if you spent a draft pick on Jay Green it's going to be a zero for you so if you want to let them go you know that somebody else is going to pick them up as soon as you drop them. But if you don't have the confidence to ever start him than just say no and you dump them in you Uh you move in a different direction. Hey by the way join. Our fans will contest fan will dot com slash league slash F F T auden. Tate is forced forty two years. Aj Green and the contest. Don't audits forty four percent own. He has had sixty five or more yards in three straight games. He is among the the NFL leaders in red zone targets and targets inside the ten yard line any interest in picking up automate. You could do worse if you're streaming wide receivers levers or if you're replacing receivers that are on by. You could do worse than Auden Tate. This week bad match up. There's no doubt about it but the rookie quarterback is starting for Cincinnati natty. He's going to need as many big wide targets. He can find hopefully taken hang on to a three or four passes week. Maybe maybe get you to ten P. Epr Point Okay Let. The Bell was limited in practice. You know they still sound optimistic but maybe be realistic here. And again below Powell not a bad Ed Guida to pick up Amari Cooper has bruised knee but he is expected to play. Michael Gallup also expected to play with a knee issue Matt Ryan is questionable but we're right now ranking him. I'm expecting Matt Ryan Baker Mayfield. Says he wants to force feed Odell Beckham junior boy. Let's see I mean. Sometimes this works. Why would you announce announced that before a football game? It was giving away the team plan. It's like every patch to Odell Beckham. Please don't don't play this in Buffalo. Thank you here's a brandin cooks. Say he says he's looking forward to getting back. He posted on instagram. He said Ed can't wait to get back on the field this year. Like my good pal. Spongebob squarepants says I'm ready. I'm ready ready. You do a spongebob. Though you know. I don't think I can do spongebob. Okay I thought you did. You just did though. Yeah it was not good Sean. Payton said the saints are going to be smart about Alvin Kamera's workload in his first game back. We'll get to that game. Washington left tackle Williams out for the season Adrian. Peterson may still start. Start either with Darius guys back according to ESPN just makes the whole geist thing even uglier. It doesn't mean that it's going to be the rest of the season when how many how many good fantasy games could Darius guys have a over the rest over the course of the season. He's he's got great matchups other than the Eagles in week fifteen. He's got nothing but I don't know about the jets jury's out on them but Detroit Carolina Green Bay Eagles giants those last five games not including week seventy so that those games is going to have fifteen touches in. I don't know but it's worth speculating. It's just not going to be on your head. Just I don't see having a League League winner playoff game savior I just. I just don't know if he can do that. It's okay to have on your bench. Why not but? I don't think I don't think you should have these grandiose expectations for dairy guys to be a stud all right here we go. George Kit Omits practice he is not a certainty to play. And he's got the sea hawks. Yeah I. I've got kittle in four of my leagues if not more than four. I can't remember off my head but I made sure to pick a tight end off waivers in every single one of those leagues. Just okay. We'll see what happens. Hopefully we don't because I don't think you can really start Garoppolo of kittles outright That makes it much harder sir. TIMOCI without him there there kicker Robbie Robbie Gold is not gonNA play this week. Corey Davis practice. Chris heard questionable Kernan plays against the giants not a lot if he does play he. He was active because they ran out of inactive spots. Last week I think if he plays he'll be very limited I feel like Ryan Griffin better. Eric broad wants a bigger role. He discusses role with Frank Reich. So we'll see what happens against the dolphins when I wanted a bigger role when I wanted a bigger role the waitress looked at me and said sorry these the size of the rules that we have this is it I eh. You will never find me getting a role like is if I get a sandwich is coming on a hero or a hoagie. Whatever the hell you want to call it a role does not fill me up no chance what about a Texas toast? What's that big? oversized pieces of bread usually buttered up. Yeah no it's not a role but I'm saying would you have sandwich worse. Yeah of course. Restaurants don't offer Texas. What about a pre dinner roll? They serve the basket could a role. Yeah I'll have that but I put it sandwich on. Kober set was limited in practice. You think he plays. It's looking like he's GonNa play which is good for the colts. Bad atfer Brian. Hoyer good for Zach Paschal. Yes Adam feeling not expected to play Dez. Bryant wants to make a comeback awesome and Carolina could be without cornerback. James bradberry sorry. Let's airline by the way big absolutely. That's Davante Adams. Would certainly benefit. Aaron Rodgers would benefit Dave's a little low on Aaron Rodgers bt dubs obsessions. By the way he's got twelve day Jamie and heath have Aaron Rodgers fourth. beat the waiver. Wire we got the giants. The packers the titans and the seahawks On by next week I like Dede Westbrook. Fifty seven percent owned and recall. Nick foles. Thank you someone on twitter for pointing pointing out that. I forgot to mention nick. foles in the good schedules but he finishes with the next. Two weeks. Might not be great at Indianapolis at Tennessee but Tennessee C. R.. Tampa Bay the chargers. The raiders and the Falcons three of his last four games are against maybe three worst teams against quarterbacks Tampa. No No Three of the worst though Tampa Bay Oakland Atlanta so jaguars passing game could be better down the stretch. I got a list here of guys I don't know if you want to hop in or I can read the list up to you. What he read the list? Okay List and then I'll I'll tell you who stands out. JD mckissick Darius. Geiss Chris Thompson at running back. Nick foles mckissick is the one if I if I I had to pick one. Obviously if I need one to start this week it's going to be mckissick is the other guys are on by And geis's certainly were stashing. mckissick is worth worth going going with on a roster spot just to see what happens and if you're desperate nippy. Pr legalism there to Sam Darnold. Nick foles Nick. Foles is at Indianapolis. It's not a great week. Yeah I think quarterback streamers and Darnold Redskins Yup Tight End Jared Cook Tampa Bay Gerald effort against the bears. You know those guys deserve to be on with you. Could I think streamers should go get jared cook right now. Use this week US cook next week because those match mattress are going to be good for him The one problem is that the saints Pasa game is getting healthy. Drake wants Smith is expected. Back Ted ginn is going to be a factor. Alvin Kamera's back ax. Oh all of a sudden. They're at full strength. So it might make cook a touchdown or bus tight end. which is what? He's basically been any way the season but at least the match ups are nice. Yes I forgot about Kaelin. Balaj against Buffalo Buffalo's men struggling against the run. Balaj is fifty six percent own. So maybe he could be okay for your next week. If you're missing maybe behalf to be okay so you could stash this week and just see how he looks and then decide whether or not he could be an option for you. Good bye week. Replacement running back next week. Yup If anybody drops the steelers for their matchup this week you can pick them up their schedules about to get awesome. And then I've got Ted Ginn well. Terms of ownership percentage it would be like Christian Kirksey the most owned. He's at San Francisco Auden Tate. Philip Door set Alex Ericsson Ted. Ginn these guys have good matchups. Gotcha Tate and Eric Center at Oakland Filter Sets Philadelphia. Ted ginn is at Tampa Bay. I'm starting to think a two leagues this week. which definitely makes me nervous? But you're hoping for for one big play one shining moment. That's all right. That's exactly right. All right start sitter flex it best. Let's Habeas Murray against the Falcons I'm going to play it safe and say flex at best on patron Ted. ginn against the Falcons same he actually. He's probably closer to buy week. Replacement Aaron Rodgers Against Carolina. You're gonNA start Aaron Rodgers. Yeah but what's up with you twelfth eleventh and it's going to go up if James James bradberry ends of not playing but the pass rusher Carolina's serious. The offensive line for the packers was not good last week. It's it's it's an easier spot of Bradbury's not there because that means basically it just means that the panthers defense can't be as aggressive as they normally are without giving up something even bigger in the secondary. You don't WanNa do that against Aaron Rodgers all right start sitter flex at best Jamal Williams in that game against Carolina. I think he's a starter. I think he's a low end number two running back because of how bad the panthers have been against the run. Yeah but he's not. He's got ten or fewer touches in three straight games. I get it. I get fewer and fewer yards total yards. I could see the packers really leaning on both those guys again in this week. Jones and Williams Kenyan drake at Tampa Bay. I guess he's a flexible best. Okay behind Jamal. Williams yes Ronald Jones against Arizona. I'm GONNA call him. I'm going to call him a flex. I know that Jamie and heath would say stardom artem. They like him as a number two running back. I don't want to be sold on him just yet because we've seen him get opportunities before and then the next game he doesn't get the same type of workload a much easier to Colorado Jones a number two running back and non. Pr For sure yeah. I think he's maxed out at two catches and again this year. How Michael Gallup against the Vikings? You're going to start him. You're going to start him. And if he plays without Amari Cooper on his side of the field. And he's he. He could end up getting double-digit targets and that's always a very good but I think he qualifies as a number two receiver. He's he's Thr- I get games games. He's really been uninvolved. He had acrobatic touchdown against the giants. And now he's facing. It was outstanding by good against wide receivers. It's not a bad match. Sure you said it. He hasn't had the same type of opportunities. Well if Amari Cooper is not there. What do you think's going to happen? He's GonNa load up on Randall. COBB come on. They're going to talk about. A BARACUDA is expected to play. I'm talking about Gallup with Cooper in Jason he's closer to a low end number two receiver. Yeah but so start Jason Witten Streamer at best okay. P P right dreamer but let's get into six games here after I tell you about light stream most people carry a balance on their credit cards and the APR on. Those is over. Twenty percent on average. 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This is a good one to start with. I do. Yeah because there's some tough calls here like the running backs start Zekan Cook. I don't I don't know start them. mentioned one thing real quick. You know some of you play four point for passing touchdown league some six some five fifteen point. What is a twenty point game? Mean what are we looking for. We always talk about six point passing touchdown leagues so just looking at weeks. Four through nine when the BI weeks began. And what did the number twelve quarterbacks score in six point passing touchdown leagues. And here's what number number. Twelve quarterback scored twenty twenty twenty one. Twenty two twenty two twenty two so you WanNa quarterback scoring at least twenty hopefully twenty two or more fantasy points for you to have a top twelve quarterback during bye weeks all right and that that would be like two hundred and fifty yards two touchdowns. No turnovers yeah basically that would be actually turn. That'd be twenty two. Yeah no two hundred fifty yards is ten points yeah touch chances. Twelve twelve twenty two zero turnovers. Aga- you need the turnover if you want twenty but we want twenty two exactly so so Minnesota at Dallas Dallas not allowed to touch down to a wide receiver at home. This season and Stefan digs has one target inside the ten yard line. He has four touchdowns this year. Three of them came against Philadelphia. Do you have any hesitation to start Stefan Dick's of course and I can't call him a number one receiver. But I do you figure that and this is a double edged sword. I I do figure he's going to get a lot of targets. Is the number one guy for Minnesota. But I also know that the cowboys are going to work like heck on passing downs to double team him and keep them under wraps and that'll make things hard on her cousin to call him. A sit is is really tough to do. You've got to have confidence in a lot. A lot of other receivers to go with that but I don't have in my top twelve. I've got him just outside. And that's but it could be a tough game for people who go with Stefan digs. If you don't have an option that you like going with Devante Parker overseas to find digs might take some gut same thing with Paschal and one of the reasons why this is a credit to Stefan digs is that is capable of making some big plays and so just because it's third down. He's double team doesn't mean that he can't make a big play on a first and ten or something them like that and I also think Minnesota's GonNa trail and outstanding Dallas is really going to hone in on Dalvin cook and try and keep him from beating them. The play action could work out and help to find digs a little bit. Bottomline said he's a number two receiver and One that you're not gonNA have as much confidence as you might normally. It's funny because I bring that it up and it's not a great match up for him but nobody's capable of and I imagined stepped onto star percentage is going to be in the nineties so Stardom and Kirk cousins. You guys have as a sit. Jamie's got james the highest cousins. He has an eighteenth so even though he's playing great. I'm just so interested in this game you know. Both of these quarterbacks have really beaten up on easy match ups and we'll see what this game brings but cousins is a sit. He's bad in this type of spot and the cowboys They give up the fifth. Fewest fantasy points to quarterback right. Only one quarterback is exceeded right. That's true but only one guy is exceeded twenty fantasy points against them this year. And and I I can't trust cousins in this spot. Yeah that was Sam Darnold and yet deep later IBM Anderson all right Davin Cook also does not have a great match up the cowboys. Give up four point. Two yards per carry They gave up a huge game to Aaron Jones. But mostly they've been pretty good but obviously you're starting cook. He's so involved in the passing game. If you're thinking about starting Alexander Madison no this he has five notice. He has five eight with forty nine to sixty three rushing yards in all five of those games they won by ten or more points in four of those five games they won by sixteen or more points so probably not a good yeah. It doesn't sound like a good week to go with Madison and nobody really does sixteen by figures. Some people might be like well. I'll take those fifty yards. I don't think he's going to get any interest in BC. Johnson five percent on another one of those desperate wide receiver plays because I think his playing time is going to be there there. He's typically been the guy that replaces Adam Phelan could be good for appr points of four for forty type game. I don't see him breaking out. Having a huge one cowboys have been a little bit. Inconsistent against tight ends. The Vikings have been very good against Haida instance like week two when they struggled they struggle against Hooper and waller to start the year waller hookah. Oh I have a drop for that. If you'd like it I can find it. He they struggled against I'll find it eventually This is great go there. I was so worth it. So which is shaking his head. WHO's your favorite tied out of this game? My favorite tight end of the game is probably Jason witten although you can certainly make the case for route off the score. He's touched on dependent and IRV Smith could end up getting he got more playing time. The last time Adam theme was out and he could end up being a guy that kirk cousins. CHECK DOWN TO A lot in this game. Not a bad tight. Hi Dan if you're really stuck and you need seven eight nine. P P R point so still not a great not a great. We don't love of not much. You have Rudolph Fourteenth Wherever whitten when you okay so you have them fourteenth to nineteenth those three tight ends. Try to get away from them if you can. You can look at Jared Cook. Hopefully you can look sickie actually ever Pr. Okay all right so moving on for cowboys. Dak Prescott is top eight. Minnesota gives up the eleventh fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks then edged assuming that Amari Cooper place right they they have given up more than twenty three twenty two points only once I think it was stafford. Vert so yeah what do you think I mean you you confident in Prescott like Prescott over Rogers is pretty. Yeah I am. I think I think the biggest strength Vikings defense is actually their pass rush and and their run defense but that really doesn't impact Dak but even with a good pass rush. I buy into the cowboys offensive. Line being a huge factor. Here it gives Dak time to throw. He'll have his full complement of weapons. And I think he can find some pretty good numbers this week. Okay Start Zeke star Cooper and then Gallup Gallop Ronald Jones also GALP. The Vikings allow the twelfth. Most fantasy points to why it was weird hesitation. Yeah I You like you're Valen Ronald Jones. This week I'm nervous about Gallup. I mean look the Vikings have now allow two hundred yards or a touchdown to eleven wide receivers. In Nine Games. They have not been good against receivers. It's usually like one guy though. There's only been two games where multiple wide receivers have done. Well Ridley and Calvin Jones are really Julio Jones and Marvin Jones and Danny albatros gavitt jokes. Okay fine school school and assert that guy you get credit for Julio and Calvin College and Calvin Jones that's the cool kind of fantasy league or Julio Ridley. I wonder if he's the number one receiver and fantasy. Let's he's gotTa be right. Calvin Jones plus Julio Calvin really plus Julio Jones Equal Thomas Chris Chris Evans is probably the number one receiver passive. We're GONNA do that. Dallas D. S. T.. You have them fourth. Jamie has them fourth Heath Eleventh Minnesota's the St top twelve l.. For everybody I could understand getting away from the Minnesota. DST 'cause cowboys. Just don't give up fantasy points to I I would rather go with the streamer humor there For for the Minnesota Divas. I'm just looking at their schedule. They've got Denver next week so you can't let go of them you'd have to go with two. DST's so so have you done if you're not into that. Then you just take your lumps with the Vikings defense. Maybe you hope that they get a turnover to a couple of sacks on top of that and then you you ride them against Denver in week eleven i. I pretty sure I'm going to be dropping the patriots this week. WHOA somebody somebody tweeted me saying that? They traded away the Patriots. DSP for Keenan. Jon Allen. Their schedule just sucks until the fantasy place I think they can be pretty good against Philadelphia. But then it's like Houston and Kansas City. There's one other a bad match. Dallas Dallas Dallas Houston Kansas City and then Cincinnati in buffalo again. They're going to rock a couple of Wednesdays show Oh they've had two games against offenses to the Rave Rosberg. They weren't good and neither one. They were not getting them back. I don't you you don't want fine. I I have to drop them because I'm going to have to drop them or Evan Ingram. I don't want to do it but I really. Those are your only options. What's what's the solution exactly? You need a tight end. I need to I need a tight end and ESPN so no no no. No I picked up jared cook so I need a DSP. So here's uh-huh to either drop the Patriots. I could drop. JD mckissick Ikea job. JANA mckissick at a non PBR leak. I can't believe you okay John. You're you're making this so dramatic it's either got to be the Patriots. DISD or avenue. Ingram how can I drop one of these two babies and you've got jd mckissick. Can you really thinking about this. Jd mckissick might touch the bio eight. Nine I don't know what I want to start the Patriots. The people are going to hate me for this but I just don't I don't know how good they're going to be. They have had this. I agree like I have. I Have Ingram will fuller and T. Y.. Hilton on my benches just like I mean I can't draw knowing the Patriots knowing the Patriots Carson. Wentz is going to somehow missed the game to Shawn Watson. It's GONNA slip on a bar soap and he's going to be out for three three weeks and so they're going to beat up on Brandon Weeden or whoever the backup is and Houston these days and they'll they'll just finagle their way. They'll look their way into an amazing. Like here's my fear is that I'm going to end up starting the Patriots. DSP every week but every week there's going to be one or two streamers that have great matchups that I like even more. That's what I'm thinking like. It's not like they're going to be bad. I feel like I might be able to actually do better but we shall see Detroit Chicago. Dave wait a minute wait a minute one thing. I and this is a challenge for you to do either for the Saturday mailbag show or the Saturday night radio. Show can you come up with a streaming alternative to the Patriots treats DISD. You can't do it now. 'cause I'm not expecting you to but to start looking at a plan to put out there for our audience that has patriots and they don't don't want to use them because the like you and me to they see the tough schedule Ed but you can come up with two or three teams that you can say okay. You're get this. DSP right now throughout the Patriots. And then here's the timing of when you're GONNA jump off that DST and go to the next GST here's you'll do that. Here's the one that comes to mind and they are highly l. e. owned but again. They might get dropped this week. And it's the steelers they're eighty six percent of it is it's tough but they're facing the rams after that the teams they face are twenty eight twenty seven twenty eight twelve twenty four thirty second in fantasy points allowed to. DSP's all right. Let's move on Detroit's Advocaat's interesting so that that could be as simple solution right there as you just go the steelers and the right amount but you have to hope hope they somehow or you could trade for them. No one's going to pass for much in trade. You could could offer the Patriots. How about this the Patriots? DSP for the steelers and something else. Let's do that. I'm going to do that yes I love it all right Detroit Chicago finally get into this game. Matthew Stafford eleventh for Jamie seven for Dave seventh for Heath Twenty eight or more fantasy points in four of his last five games. Only one tough match-up in those games so the bears. They've been very good against quarterbacks. Teddy Bridgewater is the only quarterback to score more than fourteen. Fantasy points against the bears hadn't faced the toughest competition but Rogers rivers bad games against Chicago. Why Are you confident Matthew Stafford because of how much they throw the ball and I'm hoping that volume is his friend? Now the Vegas Line on this game also you know sets off my spidey senses a little bit. You think that the lions would be favored because alliance of had this high powered offense and they've been putting up points joints. They've had a lot of close games and the bears have been trashed the past couple of weeks. Their offense has been bad and yet the bears favorites in the game. So leads me to think that somebody somebody in Las Vegas thinks that the bears are going to win and they're trying to get you to bet on Detroit and does that mean that Stafford's have a bad game for fantasy. No of course not he could still go out there and throw for three hundred. Two in the lines can still lose but it does make me wonder if if smart people think that Stafford's going to have a tough game. I don't have them right to the top five quarterback this week which is normally where. He's been the last few weeks but I still think he's going to attempt to hack a lot of passes and have a chance to get you some good numbers and if you've been starting him and you don't have a stud replacement stick with them. So you're starting him over Matt Ryan The saints over Aaron Rodgers Against Carolina. That's how it is right now. In the rankings. He's Rogers is GONNA shoot up. If there's no James Bradberry and Ryan is is one of those. It's a tougher call for Ryan just because I'm not sure if he can just fall into huge productions almost the exact same thing for him as it is for Stafford. That's a team. That can't run the ball. Their defense stinks. They're going to have to throw right. The bears run defense has been. I'm pretty bad since the Hicks Injury Goldman banged up to true. Do you trust they. D- Trust a Detroit running bounce this game because you don't know who it's going to be you can't say with any confidence at JD. mckissick showed enough last week that he can go and handle twenty-five touches in the game or even fifteen. I'll settle for twelve. I don't know if he can get there. How would you rank mckissick and tied Johnson compared to like Kareem Hunt? I'll take mckissick one spot ahead of hunt in non-pwi PR and kisses several spots higher than Kareem in full PBR. Okay so we're getting no tie Johnson right. He's no he's thinks you can't trust them. Okay I trust them Kenny. Golladay a bus start start. Yeah listen. He's their best receiver. He's going to be tough cover for the bears. And you said Marvin Joe Marva Arba Jones Michael Gallup Let me check where Adam. I've got Gallup I Have Gal ahead of Marvin Jones in my PPO rankings. Which means I would have made of them in non PR as well? The bears really have been very good against wide receivers day. Coincide and Adam. Theo and alshon jeffery less than forty yards and no touchdowns some wide receivers have have big aims maclaurin. Paul Richardson Emmanuel Sanders. Digs Michael. Thomas big big games but you know eight four fewest fantasy points spot. Kenny Golladay has had some tough matches this year. And he's mostly crush them so I just don't think you hesitate there. TJ Aj Hawkins said how he compared to say Jason Witten Irv Smith Kyle Rudolph TJ Hopkinson keys basically behind them. Because he's proven to be a touchdown. Her bus is tight end. Who can't hang on two touchdowns and it's pathetic? Not just the fact that he's having these touch opportunities dropping them he's running lots Arauz. He's playing a lot and he's just not coming up with the types of numbers that we as fantasy managers entrust okay and he does have a good matchup. Though the bears the six most fantasy points too tight ends Mitchell trubisky system. David Montgomery stardom. But you guys are not super super high on him about eighteenth in the rankings. So Oh like who. Would you start over David. Montgomery I'll start with the. I've been secretary okay. I think I think he's an easy one to start with. I think I think single. Terry's there's a better chance to score. Because he does more out of the passing game and I think the bills are going to try and use Devon Single Tarik both as a runner and as a pass catcher I don't think if there's any other names that would be very surprising here Ryan Grim Kevin Coleman Chris Carson Levian David Johnson. Maybe that would surprise people how I now. I think Montgomery running back this week. I just don't have. I don't think he's got the same type of upside even in this matchup is some of those other running back. Okay I I I hope he does. I think they could run the ball going to have to run the ball and you can run on Detroit but What about Jalen Samuels or David Montgomery I will take. I will take for sure Montgomery non-pwi PR. I believe I have samuels ranked a smidge ahead of of Montgomery and full PBR. What about Trey edmunds? What about him and he's not okay? Never mind that. Well that's boy. That's that's great news then potentially for Jalen angles my goodness They've got Tony. I always mess up his last name out. I think it's Tony Brooks James Because of his Tony James Brooks I would make a Simpson's comment right But I think that that's going to end up being there number two running back this week because Canada's look like he's ready to go and I don't know that means is going to be ready to ago Dave Starter Sits Rico and seventy percent owned says. He's he's facing. Give me give me any set. You want go ahead. They allow the most receiving yards two running backs x and four receiving touchdowns running backs last week would have been a good week for the bears to deploy to Rico. And they didn't do it. I don't trust their offense to change inch allot right now. Five running back fifty five or more receiving yards against the lions running back has got a touchdown against the lies and three of their last four games. He's had good matchups before he hasn't necessarily really done anything with them. So that's tough to trust. Do you trust Allen Robinson who has been kind of Daud the last two games and yes he has has been Darius. Slay makes a big difference for this defense really does I still have them ranked high NPR just because of the volume that we think he can instill get. I've got him as a high number too wide receiver in that format. He's a little lower non-pwi pr. But I still think he's startle David Montgomery around Robinson Montgomery easy non PR. I probably have Robinson ranked higher in full. Pr Detroit Kid. Going up against his His hometown team. That's as mine. Jamie Ism of the day ninety four catches but a career. Low eleven point three yards per catch. And I can't imagine you're GonNa be too jazzed about Taylor. Gabriel or Anthony Miller and then nope not jazz Gabriel. It wasn't bad in faneuil. He could be a sneaky fans will play Chicago. DST actually you have the kind of switch from from Jamie and heath they they like the bears and the lions you like. Don't like the bears. The bears pass rush. Hasn't quite been getting home like we thought they would. And and it's Stafford and that's passing game that I still think is going to be a big part of what the Lions do so. I've I started the year with two. DSP's mostly mostly Patriots and bears. And I've dropped the bears already because their schedule gets worse and they haven't been playing as well sure. Dave I don't say this offer look at my face. 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Only Teddy Bridgewater has scored twenty fantasy points in six point for passing touchdown leagues with less than forty four. Pass attempts or in an without a rushing touchdown so basically. If you don't throw the Baltin or run for a touchdown you haven't done well against the seahawks don't you barack. Hello usually he doesn't do either of those things. I don't know if we've ever laid out a stat like that in the history of the show but this could be a high scoring game in fact could be one could be one. Wait a minute I thought you already gave us one zave making up for lost time. We have multiple bonanzas. This as we go. I think this could be very high scoring. Even though you're supposed to have two good defenses here starter sick arapahoe. I've got him outside of my top twelve for now. I can be convinced that this could be a high scoring game. Because I buy into Russell Wilson in data offense setting the tempo and you know I guess I just never learn. I'm still not sold on the forty niners pass. Defense being Very very good. I think Richard Sherman very good but the other side of it I think will get tested and I think the seahawks are the type of team that can roll out a very dangerous. Three receivers sat now with Josh Gordon. There yet oh you're talking to the board. Okay you're talking about them chasing or you know how about Seattle using the past is to start putting points on the board and that'LL FORCE ROB row in theory to start throwing more I. It's hard to trust him. But there's no George Gill she got got to keep an eye on that and I know that the forty niners would love to run the football. I think the strength of the Seattle defense is ready fats. Not that it's great. I think it's better then That it's passed defense. Sure okay so most quarterback score between nineteen twenty fantasy points against Seattle. That's been a sweet spot A seven of nine quarterbacks have been there now arms of the running backs. Everybody's GonNa Start Chris. Carlson I'm surprised he's not hire for you guys quite frankly. He's not a top ten running back but he's a must star guy in San Francisco's run defense. It's it might not be good. I mean they've been kind of shredded lately and they just lost Alexander for the year. So let's talk about Coleman and Brita ah though and who do you like better or how much you like. I like Coleman better than Brita. I saw Coleman ranked pretty high. I still believe that he's got the the best last high leveraged touches in the forty niners backfield and I still think that breed is a a running back where he needs big plays to help your fantasies. Okay Yeah and this is not a bad ad. Run Defense I mean. They've given up some fantasy points but they've given a fancy points guys had a ton of Carey's so and they give up the touchdowns and passing game production but they do a pretty good job a per carry This the SEAHAWKS All right so carson over Coleman right I have called them Coleman over Carson. Why because I'm I still buy into the forty niners front being tough and the offensive line for Seattle? I I still question marks about them. Like where is the evidence evidence that they are getting just shredded by good running backs. They're giving up less. Yeah the last two or three games for them. So the lab is. We're taking on Thursday. Eighty Peterson four yards per carry Nick Chubb had sixteen carries for eighty seven yards McCaffrey. Fourteen carries carries one hundred seventeen yards and a touchdown. Kenyan Drake fifteen carries one hundred ten yards and a touchdown. They're giving up four point seven yards per carry two running backs and now they lost quant Alexander which was a big deal in week one when he got elected against Tampa Bay in the buck. Start running the ball better so plus like Carson. He's going to twenty carries is he. I think so we. We already talked about his fumbling issue. He fought yeah. He had sixteen carries last week. So okay I think book is GonNa Start Guy and maybe the I'm being a little too aggressive moving in behind guys like Chub and Kamera but to me here's I ever right Coleman Chubb Kamera Carson. This is as of Friday they morning. And there's a chance I don't change it from this but the way I look at it there there will be a sharing element for all four of those guys. Three of them number playing at home three of them are playing against could too great match ups. And you're you're laying out a case at the forty niners are a dangerous run defense anymore. I don't no if I'm ready to jump in with two feet on that. Okay I'll take everybody. I named over Lebanon Bell David. Montgomery Jalen Samuels. Todd Gurley all right. Yeah Yeah I mean. We're splitting hairs because people are gonNA start these guys. So how about The wide receivers. Who Do you like in this game? We got lock it as a must start. Yup I think sanders is a must start to okay. I think each can't get away from from what you saw last week. And and again a team that probably would prefer to be balanced if not run heavy in the forty niners but they now have the element of passing. And I think they're going to need to use it in this game and it's one of the reasons why I'm still like I I. I'm probably maybe a little too low on Garoppolo honestly even if George Kennedy plays. Are you going Tannehill. Garoppolo by the way WHO Tannahill Tannehill over Garoppolo for now okay okay. Garoppolo does have good upside and sanders is part of the reason. Why Russell Wilson Start Him although Oh he says of Ninth Jamie Sixty seconds and Carson Start Kettles Start Decay Metcalf. WE'RE NOT GONNA be recommending Josh. Gordon let's wait and see but decay metcalf. Start or sit. There is a chance of Josh. Gordon can take away two or three catches from decay metcalf but I ah from what I've seen the seahawks love back. Cather trusting 'em. They're putting him out there. I don't think he's making as many mistakes as he was earlier. This year I think you can and by him as a number two fantasy receiver Interesting galloper Dick or Gallup were I was GONNA say Ed Dixon because I think he's coming back this week. Right for Seattle. He is coming back and they do like him. Yeah I've got Gal ahead of metcalf. Yeah that's what I meant to say. Caliber metcalf okay. Parker and Paschal ahead of McAfee's as well Mac average will be our or Jamal Williams. I'll take Macbeth cool. So that's it for this game. DST Yeah I I think I might want to get away from the from the forty niners their top twelve but eleven for Jamie tenth for Dave seventh for Heath. And who do they have next week week. Let's take the forty niners Arizona Again O. K.. And then Green Bay and then Baltimore I and then New Orleans terrible. It's terrible I think zone zone you can can PUNT ON ATLANTA NEW ORLEANS. What my goodness? Let's stat of the game is this the first. Ever triple bonanza in the history of fantasy baby Atlanta has allowed a combined nine four touchdowns to Darren fellows Max Williams and Gerald Everett in their last four games but they did shut out the Seattle Times for what that's worth jared cookies. He's a solid streamer. Matt Ryan Wisey only tenth. Frio worried about turnovers worried about the injury affecting him Like the upside of a lot other quarterbacks ahead of him but still a definite good start devante Freeman or that group of Heaven Coleman Chris Carson Nick Chubb Etcetera Breath The other group Freeman. Pr Is closer to that group than a non PR. He's almost outside of the top twenty four nine. Pr Right he he. I mean again. That run defense is so nasty. Yeah and I. I'm not quite sure. Where the Falcons offensive line is coming to this game? I think they might be getting they line up right by lie. The quarterback basically right in front of him. Oh Oh thanks for pointing that out for me. Yeah I think Lindstrom could be back in and that'll give. The Falcons is a boost. But I don't know if that makes them a solid unit okay. Would you start mad. Brita or devante Freeman Freeman. Would you start talking earlier Freeman girly. Okay so Julio Jones start what about Calvin Elvin Jones Ridley. I think Ridley's okay with Matt Ryan Back With the obvious game script that should go down. which is Atlanta chasing points? And we'll see how the saints go about covering these guys. I know that last year cabinet really had to huge games against New Orleans. That's that's fine. Yeah like that. At least ninety yards and a touchdown in each game one one of the Games. You Got Three touchdowns I think you can. I think you can trust them this week. And that Daly plays well in a Matt Ryan his last five games at New Orleans. He scored eighteen twenty two twenty three fifteen twenty four. So that's you know that's like top twelve top ten ish in a lot of cases but it just not like. He's owns them at home. He hasn't gotten really that third touchdown basically road well. You can use them in week. Thirteen when they're in Atlanta. They'll play each other again. I mean I'm I'm I'm excited I have both of these quarterbacks in the two QB league and I. I'm really excited. I think this has major potential for a big shootout Calvin Ridley Or Decay Macbeth. I believe I have metcalf higher. In P P R but in non. Pr I definitely have really hire enough. Maybe are all right so both. Who's better Flyer Russell? Gauge for the Falcons Ted Ginn for the saints. Let's go with scoring being the factor here because I think Russell gauge could end up getting a lot of downs and get you close to ten P. Pr are points he safer NPR. I think gin has the obvious upside and not be PR and obviously would have upside in full PR as well. But I don't see him suddenly suddenly having four plus catches after he's had a steady diet of two and three grabs drew. brees should be amazing. He's number one for Jamie and Davies third for Heath Talk. Talk to me about the saints running backs. Though what do you think I think Kamara will still lead the way until the game is out of hand for the Falcons or it's out of hand for the saints. It's too I mean let's face it. There's a slim chance of that happening. But it's possible and then once it is out of the way I think Latavius Mariel takeover fully but before that you'll still let's see Latavius Murray's work in there a little bit. Let's let's call it like this. Expect Latavius to have around six or seven touch before the fourth quarter. And if it's a blowout win or loss for the saints by that point you'll see Latavius Murray Soak up some garbage time touches. So would you go with devante. Freeman over Latavius Murray. I would would you go with Jamal Williams or Latavius. Mary I would Joe Moye over Latavius Mary okay. You also have Ronald Jones and Kenyan Nyan Drake ahead of the Tavis. You latavius over Joe Mixing though so I have them over mixing Brita Kaelin Balaj Josh. Kareem Hunt. Yes they're all in the same group mixing actually one spot ahead of marine. PR WANTS ABOUT BEHIND THEM IN NON PR. Okay then That's pretty much it for this game. Start Michael Thomas. You're GonNa Start Awesome Hooper. And we keep saying Jared Cook got an opportunity here Falcon struggling against tight ends and the saints throwing their tight ends score in the end zone any way more more recently. I I have cook in my top. Ten He's nights. NPR All right. Our next game You know what the funny thing about this game Arizona. Tampa Bay wait. I know it's an anti yeah. You already played this account. And the two worst teams CBS against quarterbacks which quarterback do you like better James Tyler. I've got cuyler. I believe I've got I've I go back and forth between them. I'm sorry I have James One spot out higher than cuyler. They are both top six. Both ahead of Stafford Dak Aaron Rodgers Matt Ryan. Okay start these guys Jameis. Winston is the start of the week for Jamie already gave you the stat about running back getting seventy two or more rushing yards and seven straight games against the cardinals. They've all had fifteen. Were carries six of them have averaged four point six yards. It's precarious better. Said Nice opportunity for Ronald Jones has row Jones. Compared to these number two receivers like metcalf and Calvin Relief and such. I would put them way behind them. I would take the chance on the receiver this week. Okay so David Johnson Kenyan drake thoughts. I still believe the the David Johnson will lead the way in this backfield but the more and more I think about it I wonder if drake earned himself a little bit more run and he could end up being in their forty percent of the time instead of thirty percent of the time. which is what chase edmunds had win? EDMUNDS and David. Johnson were both healthy. And I don't mean the fake Kinda healthy were David Johnson leaves after two snaps but the real kind of healthy when they're both actually available to play. It also wouldn't surprise me if we saw both of them on the field a lot. They are both both good pass. Catchers they can both impact there. And I think you're GONNA see column or throw a lot this week. He might be. My favorite fan will quarterback. Because the there's GonNa that'd be a ton of volume forum the running the I I don't see Arizona running between the tackles much right there so they have schemed very wise. Hang on a second. Let me let me throw throw a scenario right. We know the box. Good run defense. Although it's been a little worse the last two weeks Derrick Henry average four point seven yards per carry Chris Carson six point six yards yards per carry but for the season. Very good defense. You Kenyan drake is a good pass catcher. David Johnson's only had two games with more than thirteen carries. If Kenyan drake takes away David Johnson's Johnson's pass catch some of his catches he could be left with with twelve carries against a great run defense. I you know I'm not saying I'm sitting him but if you have somebody like David Montgomery who set up for a big game You know or Jalen Samuels. Would you get away from. I'm David Johnson just because we just don't know what the workload is going to be if you could if you really have other options that you feel safer within Johnson. I think he's a number two running back this week and I think that he can get fifteen touches in the game and I almost wonder if some of those touches or catches that. Come away from Kirk Gerald the other receivers I and I do truly believe that they're gonNA spread the ball around but also have a lot of volume with it. I already talked about it. I just don't see I. I wouldn't be surprised if David Johnson finished the game with eleven carries right but he he needs. He's going to need work in the passing game which has been his bread and butter this year. So he's a number two running back. What about the Arizona Arizona wide receivers against the team that gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers? They've given up to nine wide receivers of eighty two or more yards against the bucks. Twelve have seventy more yards. Are you starting Kirker Fitzgerald. I can kirk in PR formats. He's tied or litters targets in his last four games. We've we've seen eleven receivers with at least seven targets gets Tampa Bay. All of them have had at least seven points in non. PBR Thirteen and PR. So they're making plays they're getting good numbers and that that's what I'm hanging my hat on with Kirk. Because last week was a total disappointment. But he's still led. The team targets fitzgerald is a different story. I just don't think he's I think touchdown her bus receiver. Who has been scoring touchdowns so very hard to trust and terms of Tampa obey Jameson top-five row Jones is a number two guy with good matchup? I'm a little concerned that paid and Barbara gets the goal line work. We'll see what happens in that scenario and you know that a Gumbo Wall is going to work when there's obvious passing situations. I don't think he's lost that job and then in There is there any hesitation. Start Mike Evans or Chris COBB and with Patrick. I didn't obviously not Evansville you. Kidding me but God when there's going to be some people out there that are going to be nervous risk because the last couple of weeks haven't been good but this is what Tampa Bay does mad. They throw the ball. All over the place Arizona's pass defense isn't very good even with Patrick Peterson. I'm back. I'm fully expecting another high volume week for Evans and Godwin to come through. Eleven wide receivers have had six for more targets against the cardinals. All eleven have had either eighty or a touchdown so godwin should get sicker more targets and the tight ends. We know. Oh how bad Arizona's against tight ends although I can actually say. Maybe a little bit better since Peterson came back Even though kibble had that big game but ah can you trust Breyer Howard. No that no okay there. They are too risky. There comes a point when you're streaming tight tight ends where the risk factor just becomes too overwhelming. And I think this is it for both of these guys. We don't have any evidence that suggests that OJ. Jay Howard himself can be good. We know the match ups great. It's just a matter of whether or not the bucks are willing to take advantage of it with Howard they might do with break. Carolina align is that Green Bay our final game and now just Kidding Carolina. Greenville the sick Kyle and start Christian. McCaffrey starter set. Dj More Encourage Samuel Packers. Give up the most forty plus yard pass plays in the NFL about that that so so that's something that could be appealing to Curtis Samuel. I just don't want to trust them if if I don't have to. I think. DJ MORE NPR is the only safe guy to go with DJ Morono Ronald Jones More Curtis Samuel P pr it's closer and non PR. But I think I would still go with Moore Jones well. I don't know 'cause no the Green Zone targets no targets inside the ten for DJ more this year. What's interesting is he is? They're short area guy but when they get in the red zone he's he's not a fact not at all very sable as the deep threat guy and he has three red zone touchdowns from Kyle. It is weird. And the one touchdown that more does have from Kyle Allen and really. The season is a fifty two yard catch and run riot and when it comes to touchdowns and you like Olsen I. He's he's had good matchups before and he started out did great against Arizona and Tampa Bay but since then knock rate against Tampa Bay four catches for the two yards three recaptures for forty yards against Tennessee. But you're very bullish on him because the packers have been brutal against tight end. Yeah Yeah and I'm even. I'm a little nervous suggesting suggesting this with Olsen but there just aren't a lot of tight ends that you can feel great about starting at least this guy's got a terrific matchup. I am hoping that the panthers find him in the end zone all right. Let's see what Aaron Rodgers

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