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1185: "Resilience"

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1185: "Resilience"

"Burst Special Adam courage. John's Devora Tober twenty seven. Twenty nine th. This is your award-winning on Asian media. Assassination episode eleven eighty five. Hi this is no agenda celebrating not slave and broadcasting live from opportunities on thirty three in the frontier of Austin Texas Kappler the drone star state in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and some northern Silicon Valley. Where the states on fire as usual? I'm Jesse divorced. Well Congratulations John. We've done it all the years of of years. We celebrate your number one woman and still no exit strategy and site you know. We're we're destined to do this this until the end of our days until until the squeak is no more on the chair and I- Crumlin a little peep of bones owns on the floor. This is this is what you say. Something uplifting us a no twelve more mar he said twelve more years. We can do it we can do. It can't even get escape. The chair to squeak today it was nice a lot of the notes that have come in. We'll talk about them later. Of course so nice to see how much value people get from the show and it's easy for us to To not stop and smell those roses once in a while. Aw Smoke in my case. Yes Hey I want to talk about the smoke in a minute because I've found out some interesting bits and bobs I think about what's going on in your neck of the woods. You do have power those it'd go off at all. I don't have a problem where I am right. Okay well that's good and you'll never have trouble where you are. Well depends. They might decide to discuss the whole state. Just shut the whole state down. That's always possible. Yes okay well hold that thought because I I want to commend our commander in chief our President President Donald J trump for finally coming around to acting like a real American president and killing Al Baghdadi once again. In the meantime I gotTa get kill finally. He's Presidential Isis leader. Abu Bakar Body is believed to have been killed in a US military raid in northwest Syria. What you're seeing is nighttime? Video taken by as a military operation got underway away in northern Italy. Province that's near the Turkish border. CNN cannot confirm that this was the actual raid could have been somewhere in Kentucky Kentucky. We don't know defense official tells. CNN that al-Bayati apparently detonated a suicide vest as US special forces closed in DNA DNA analysis will confirm whether it is in fact Dadi. The Islamic cleric has been in hiding for five years and we're being told that locating him was is based on CIA intelligence. Couple of things. Here one I liked it. It's based on CIA intelligence. So you know interesting where this operation came from two. We have DNA of Baghdadi that we can compare it against. Maybe they have eared somewhere doc. Then three and I know this from our military intelligence producers when you blow yourself up with the suicide vest the head actually pops off into the sky like bottle rocket yes we should have unassured ahead on his stick this stick and of course I could go back I think almost ten years probably and find some al-Baghdadi is dead dead clips. I I got one yes we have to back up in. Reinforce worry inform everybody. That al-Baghdadi is a is a made up. Name aimed meaning the guy from Baghdad. But they always show the same photo of the same no. I don't think so. I've seen different photos because there's been at least three three of the Dalai Lama. He's being reincarnated assume. Always being Al Baghdadi Gut say it anymore. It's ludicrous and then you have trump saying you according to CNN you can't believe these reports of course He cried like a baby in a dive we had. And what's the guy doing walk around with their suicide. Apparently not apparently he sleeps case he sleeps with it. Oh yeah sure he does. But that's comfortable after goal. You know what's great is Because I was just getting my coffee in the keeper came back from a workout. She's like hey we got this Al Baghdadi Guy and and you know I've only been with her for five years. She hasn't been listening to know agenda prior to that and I said you know it's interesting. The no agenda nation is tickled pink about this because we remember these things and I think it even a little bit further. I was read. Fox News was tweeting out Tina it was readings to me like he didn't even tell Nancy Pelosi was afraid that you know she might loose lips ships and then we couldn't have got him so he didn't tell Nancy. It's like the stop this bull shit here the just. Let's take it back. A few years hen armed trucks were destroyed in the attack but in a statement an official from. US Central Command said. We cannot confirm if I s leader Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi was among those present. This strike demonstrates demonstrates the pressure we continue to place on the is terrorist network and the groups increasingly limited freedom to maneuver communicate and command. The it's not the first time there's been speculation about the. Is leader being killed or injured a day after such rumors in July. The terror group uploaded this video claiming to show out Baghdadi preaching at a mosque in Mosul. The S strike comes shortly after President Obama revealed plans to send an extra fifteen fifteen hundred. US troops to Iraq but that role will be non-combat advising and assisting Iraqi government forces in their fight against the Jihadists. That's old all this is. That's how old this bull crap goes back and it was before I think twenty probably twenty eleven. We have this guy being in killed and I I think the idea is we went into Syria. We had to get Isis Guy. We had to fight. Isis Aces Something I don't know no boots on the ground but were there advises at system and we need to go away now. We killed the got time to leave. I mean come on very very lame lame and if we follow the script we'll get next next just like the previous two times. We follow this. Isis will be in America. Everybody they're coming together here. Hashtag America near our HASHTAG target soon. Oh Yeah Oh yeah isis we will follow well. Then that's how you know how all these things are because this was all created the last time we killed him and the shingles at least a day is is is is being you know so next. WE HAVE TO GET ISIS in America. And if if we follow the script then we'll have when we have We're GONNA have something bad ever going to pass that that part of the script. Well no no. The script is always called after. We're getting an ice in America right then we go back. We have grown terrorism. Don't forget that guy. Yes yes yes yes exactly. Oh beautiful. Beautiful so yeah so. Needless to say we're not buying this crap old guy. He slept in his suicide vest. Why wouldn't it be better to be for five years wearing a suicide belt else? It just doesn't make sense. It just does. What does this do? Oh man and then we have the thousands of indictments. It's not just me. Who's been saying this? This is beautiful thousands and thousands of indictments the president the government. He's there sealed right now. They're seal but always sealed. The deep state is going down the way there sealed with a kiss. Oh yes I trump at one of his helipad standups On the South Lawn to talk to the the mainstream press the m five am and he told them like you know. I don't know I don't know I think. Thousands of sealed indictments long-term look at look. Take a look like is becoming very he say look see. There's been a longtime looks really a long term. Look at look at look see. Why would he say that he said this code from what I'm hearing negate the investigators can pay whether it's whether it's Homey and all of these people holmenkollen because because terrible things went on for a donkey and we have a great attorney? General highly prestigious man very honorable man and they've been looking at it for a a long time. I can't tell you what's happening. I will tell you this I think even see a lot of really bad things and people think that and they know they have problems because there were very dishonest at again I leave it all up to the attorney general and I leave it all up to the people that are working working with the attorney. General who I don't know but I will say this. I think you'll see things that nobody would have believed his worst hoax. And the history of our country in a lot of people say that the phony deal on a beach where I have a perfect conversation. Perfect perfect president. They're using that to one of the most successful president is we're going to hit another stock market. I we have the best job reports. We have the best unemployment numbers we have the best employment more people working today at the United States than ever before. Okay according to the according to the bullshit speaker right so anyway yes. Eight cars. Zephyr was short short bus today. So this is This is in regards charged to attorney. General bars probe turning criminal criminal. Oh yes now the sealed indictments are coming to light and has got people worried interesting. He named a number of people Struck page Komi Clapper. Who was missing thing from that lineup? The person was missing was Brennan. He wasn't missing from most of the LINEUPS. Just just this one. Okay I have two do. I have to clips. Well I was GONNA play a bit of clapper. who was very surprised by this? You WanNa hear that first before we definitely. I love hearing James Clapper. He's he's he is. He's inspirational former director of national intelligence. Who knows nothing? We continuously she what happened in the world and he'd be asked to buys. Oh what did that. What what was that? One time that something really big happened and he got assassinated horrible thing and they asked about should somehow a guy also lied In Congress of the loop he is out of the loop. So we have Anderson Cooper talking to Jeffrey Toobin. WHO's a constitutional Russian lawyer and we've got to bring clapper in because all of a sudden the probe gone criminal director clapper as the man who was there and oversaw the launch the Russia investigation? What do you make of this? Well you know very curious presumably. I guess I'm one of those under investigation. I and I and you just heard about this. Just ridler course better than that you just heard about it. Yes listen to what he says. I just heard about this just ridic lapointe. Just read the clip or does he mean news clipping as he that old when he says this clip he means news clipping. Nobody's at old beyond just clip on about twenty minutes ago. Oh I found the timing interesting. It's a distraction given the increasing heat around the impeachment inquiry. And so the time he's interesting. I'll just let it go at that. Just leave because it's clearly it's distraction and the other thing I wonder about is whether we're talking about the overall an investigation of the Russian reporting on the Russian a interference or are we talking about the counterintelligence again. What do you think I'm really confused about? What is this criminal investigation that was launched in July by by the FBI about potential engagement collusion? Whatever you WANNA call between the Russians and trump campaign so about? What is the alleged criminal activity that prompted this? Do you have any idea even and what they might think may rise to the level of a criminal offence. No I don't think that's an item of great interest to me. What does it they would rise the level of criminal infractions and I? I just don't know flabbergasted to the Pfizer. The court illegally. Might that be one of them. No Luckily Jeffrey Toobin was on hand to explain the conspiracy theory. I can tell you what the what the theory has been is that there is this miss food character. Who is who works university in Italy and the theory Has Been that somehow the deep state people in the CIA planted with him the idea that interesting to note that he thinks the deep state eighties people in the CIA. Okay interesting little giveaway planted with him. The idea that the Russians were you know. Help helping trump misfit told it to various campaign officials George Popadopoulos among others it got back to the FBI and that's what launched the investigation so the claim is that the nailed. It is exactly right. The deep state started this investigation. There's the evidence. As far as I'm aware to support that hypothesis. It is clearly edge is at this point just a right wing fantasy but that that I think is the the is the core allegation. If I might add to. What Jeffrey just said? Just make the point that that had absolutely nothing nothing to do with Intel community assessment. That was done in January of twenty seven teen and briefed to. That's his defense that enough. That had nothing to do. With the Assessment Tobin says there's no proof this and meanwhile clapper's kind of saying it's true but had nothing to do with trump and his team trump tower on January. Sixth so those are again in separate things and that is a really far fetched theory in my view that somehow missing was set up by the FBI. Create this conspiracy that You know he was trying to generate the impression that the Russians were encode coupon code. They explained it beautifully. which is the nutty thing and I can tell you what's coming next because we already got a preview of that on the last episode assode you will hear the this was? I'm watching this unfold. I'm thinking okay. So my our internal joke. Thousands Thousands of sealed indictments here. We go. It's finally happening but to people like chunk chunk you are at at the fine young Cannibal Turks. This is how he sees it and his prognostication is coming true. I'm here to tell you. And I hope it never comes to fruition and and again. I don't think it's going to because I think it's we're GONNA fight back and we're going to win. But if Donald trump were to be reelected I guarantee you he will start locking people up. Yes exactly and this is what people you're going to start seeing this everywhere. Oh my God. He's turned full full dictator. He's he's abusing the entire Justice Department to lock up his political opponent that over and over again that we should lock up up his political opponents people who think he's kidding he said that you heard it over and over again right. He said he should lock up political opponents. I heard over and over again. Twenty deaths as a quick reminder go look a bill bars defending of FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge. And tell me this guy's on the up and up. I'm not believing that so. Let's listen to extremes of this. Whatever it is that's going on? which is they kind of the same thing I get from the Lib? Joe's only the other way around this is a guy comes on. This is a guy who does One of the many hosting now have it info wars and this guy could play minute twenty six at this Robert Barnes. He he comes on and he does about. I don't know forty five minutes of nonstop Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Bob and his all all about the indictments and all the rest of it Robert Barnes here with a special Saturday breaking news report and information and deep insight into what is happening in the spy gate. Investigation instigation. What is happening in impeachment? What is happening in the Guiliani case what is happening in the Roger Stone case and how they all relate and interact with one another for example breaking news out of Washington today is that former? FBI General Counsel. James Baker has flipped. And we'll be testifying against against James Comey testifying against Andrew McCabe where we testifying against former says associate counsel Lisa page former. FBI Counterintelligence Agent Peter Stroz Iq and other personnel involved in attempts to set up an ambush general. Mike Flynn the attempts to set up. The President President trump the attempts to illicitly spy on the trump campaign through the investigation and the elicit fiso warrants on Carter page and other activities including being information that may implicate former CIA director. John Brennan Former National Security Director. James Clapper both now our amazingly our commentators for various mainstream establishment press organizations as his Andrew. McCabe all of the deep state infrastructure unraveling as is the first major informant is willing to blow the whistle on what really took place in two thousand sixteen and continued through two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen James Baker Baker the problem with using the name James Baker is. There's about fifty of them that has been associated with the government. Yes this particular James Baker. I had to look him up. 'cause no one I'm thinkin aw James. Baker James Baker goes back to Clinton doesn't the one I'm thinking it's there's different that's the point. What a mistake? There's there's James Baker's that go back to Reagan there's James Does Jane acres very common Washington name this this James Baker I never heard of but he's apparently he's looks. He's flipped. He's got their name to do it because his name is James Baker. If you have it here James Baker family making go into government service. So that's kind of you know he goes on and on and on he goes nuts now in a more I say a shorter version. Thirty seconds worth this. This is Amy Goodman Kinda summarizing things and this is the clip. How how the left sees the bar investigation very simple justice? Department's opened a criminal investigation into the origins of the Russia. Investigation and the latest move by the White House to discredit the work of special counsel. Robert Muller move by Attorney General. Bill will give the Justice Department that power to subpoena witnesses and to convene grand juries to file criminal charges. Congress member JERROLD Nadler who chairs the house. Judiciary Committee Tweeden response. These reports of true raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under bar has lost its independence and become vehicle for president. Trump's political revenge vange orange is. He's not the attorney of the United States. He's the attorney of the president. Well you know what. He needs one because Giuliani character is not doing a great job. I think Giuliani's to explain. No no no. No if you see Juliana Laura Ingraham is doing fine. No wait. Did you not hear the butt. Dial call you. Do we talked. You WanNa last. Show the butt dial call. I didn't remember that was is dumb. Yeah but I don't think we talked about it but okay I believe we did. I believe we didn't keep apparently sat on his phone and then they could hear. I don't know about you but I've heard many but del calls. That have come in. Yes and I've never been able to decipher I for one single one. That was going to be my point. Is that people put such great importance on this and I've listened to. I have the clip. It doesn't make any difference because you can't hear anything. It's there for two minutes and I realized how often I've done this mainly from you quite honestly where you don't this carry a phone now when you do you dial and when you butt dial you dial me. 'cause I'm at the top of everybody's list I am the number one but dialed man in my. Ira Yes dumb. Yes on the number line by everybody including you. I might add and all you hear on the other end is there's nothing you get. I believe I have sat on but dialed calls for a long time now. In the olden days when when the phones were rigged funny the regular landlines and they were just opened up a line. If you didn't hang up than it would stay open on the other end it could it. There's different randy. Sometimes some mechanism would take place in just open up. You could hear very clearly off of a landline phones. In the air it's roar Ambien but the but does some guys in your pocket to begin with useless but there is Giuliani sitting there going like we need money. We need hundreds of thousands of dollars. And that was Maureen. It's all about perception. So few Giuliani's just fine. No he looks like a moron. He's not the Laura are income. Show that I guess you watch. I don't well I do. I wash clips now. The funny thing about this last one two way had to weigh the Amy saw it was. It was just a to nullify the mullahs report. which nullified itself? Yeah because it was so strong. It's in there and then the other thing was to get revenge. which is what he's going to do anyway? But I don't know that's just to me is the exact same. When you hear the the the Liberals go on about how Putin is running the country this is the right wing version did write it tight mints and a Criminal Investigation? All this is going to happen. Nothing's GonNa Happen. I'm GonNa Tell You my prediction zip. Meanwhile GonNa come of any of this. Yeah I'm afraid durations. And this is why we jokingly call it the thousands of sealed indictments. Because we've been hearing about this for years and just waiting for it to happen. Happen Klopp a coma though is getting kind of bold. He's out Guess was political on one of these conferences. Were I think people. We'll go and sell their books. They're mainly yeah. That's what you do you write a book and then you go get your autograph. It's going to cost five bucks. You're going to have to stare at people. Well Mitt Romney say this the other day. You're all going to be asked where were you. And what did you do. Nice suspect what's going to happen is what's going to happen. After the Joe McCarthy Carthy fever broke in one thousand nine hundred eighty four McCarthy disappeared overnight all of a sudden. no-one had anything to do with it. I was never involved. What trump who expect when we're gonNA experience because this is going to go away very very quickly? We can't allow that to happen. People have to be held accountable. Because you're responsible for what you say and for what you do not say. And if you're in a position to speak you owe it to this country to speak as how I think about it. I wrote it all in my book. I so brave James. Call me well not really that brave because you know what if trump gets reelected when he wins again. Will you still believe that I will be from my new home in New Zealand. I will but I I still believe in America what this is fuck you. I'm sorry. Komi Demean to drop the F bomb. But here's the guy saying. Oh if UNAMERICAN then you'll speak out put if trump wins. I'm going to go to New Zealand. Come on and then so funny makes you not want to get into the book business when you hear these jokes. Foley's voters Schill phonies that just either all phonies phonies. Most people are phonies. I find except for they have a clip. I have nothing but clips about that now. I do have something else. I think I'm figuring out what's going on with these fires and maybe not necessarily not what what starts the right now. No no grand conspiracy. This is just something that was staring us in the face. Just hadn't caught it yet. One of our producers sent me a clip of something. I started looking like wait a minute. I got a dive into this so first. Let's start with. Is there any update on what's happening with these fires and subsequent shutdowns a are any of the fires blamed on Pacific Gas and electric for their wires sparking stuff or were they safe with these public safety safety power shutdowns the PS es What's what's the boots on the ground? Giant fire apparently started from a transmission. Line that shorted Out and it turns out that piece unique. Shut down all the powerful a little people the people the the the hungry masses but that transmission Russian lines were still active and now they're starting stuff on fire and it appears that the stock at five dollars if this transmission line as accusation on this last big walker farthest going on right now came from a transmission. Line that just shorted out too big. You're talking about the big giant tall tower lines Dan The most of the analysts stock analysts say that the PG newstalk will be worthless and they will be never never recover so for sure. Some some of this has to we. We can't ignore the position of Of the of the utility company in what's happening with them and what's what writing is on the wall for we're all utility companies as climate change as climate. Change is responsible for this. You cannot deny that. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Look here's the deal. Look I'm sorry I'm sorry. Hey Woods look look. Here's this no matter fact of the matter is the fact. The matter is the This has never been a problem before we have had high winds all the time If you look at the real stats the number of wildfires has lessened since the nineteen hundreds and PG needs just incompetent equipment's old. It's shorting out. Every which way in the trees aren't trimmed back. They don't do any more controlled Burns and California like they used to. When I was a kid and I I haven't heard about a controlled burn for the last decade controlled Burns are needed in a place like California which is a tinderbox tinderbox and so this is just mismanagement in gender some screwball stuff about a few of these are like wineries that just burnt down there they were guys out there? Oh the Winder Stone Hill my insurance scam an insurance scam or not. But I'll tell you this much. Supposedly started by ambers burst Amberg. There's no fire around this blinders. wineries burned to the ground. Oh amber amber blue two miles. Apparently the Amblin Louis which is possible they show this winery and they clearly show on. Look there's a wineries burnt to the ground is for the stone front and they said there's all the collapsed Corrugated steel door roof was corrugated. Steel so how does an amber land on our REU. Hello made out of corrugated steel Torch the plate. Please hello hello you know. It's directed energy weapons. That's an easy one to be honest about it. I think this screwball thought of yours but to look at this fire at does winery. That had had this steele roof Burnt to the ground. And it looks like I'm just sort of an energy beam just blew it up okay. That's mark the time code so when we argue about that in the future I look like yes well. I'm surprised that you're not looking at the climate change aspect of all this John. The first of all. Can we agree. The based off of News Calgary agree. Don't wouldn't you agree with me. Wouldn't you join with me and saying saying that. The mainstream news clearly pegues this issue mainly on climate change. No Oh please I think the mainstream maybe the national media but locally nationally nationally I mean these the fire the wildfires fires in California have been pegged on climate change for the past ten years. Well the past few years a few years for sure. What is the problem with climate change? We're not getting any traction. Yeah it's good to to weaponize the children with Greta. That's a nice touch. Burn down in California. Well we need to get at some economics going. How long have we been waiting for this climate change bullcrap the payoff al.? Gore's not getting any younger. The Kleiner Perkins cleantech investors. Astor's not getting any younger. That investment is sat there for fifteen to twenty years in Congress count And this is where I stumbled upon on something new. That is all over this wildfire news and it turns out the true scam. They're going with now in the climate. Change Enj- gambit centers around California and Interestingly Austin Texas and the scam. Is this cars. Travel that far. Get your mind away from the fires that just a reason to show people that we need something else if someone said hey you know we could really solve this problem with these fires and everything if we did something else. That sounds completely logical is exactly in this. Why haven't we done this before? And it's called the micro grid. Hi I'm Craig Lewis Founder and executive director the clean coalition. And I look it up the clean. Coalition Kennedy Footage Program Director for Clean Coalition Manon profit dedicated to accelerating the transition to renewable energy energy and a modern grid. We'd like to tell you about the community microphone. Initiative our revolutionary approach to changing the way that the electric grid is designed and operated encompassing significant levels of clean energy traditionally. The Electric Power Grid has been based around large central power plants sending electricity through long distance transmission lines lines to get the Energy Board is actually needed where people live and work. We now have an opportunity to redefine. How the grid works to accept large amounts renewable energy into avoid significant investments in transmission infrastructure and to make communities more resilient community micro grids envisioned leveraging resources like like solar wind energy storage and electric vehicles within community areas to provide at least twenty five percent of the community's total energy needs from local renewables they can also provide backup power an entire community during short outages and indefinite backup power critical facilities like fire stations hospitals and water treatment plants? Our solution is to build a handful of full-scale community migrants across the country to show how they unleash the power of affordable and clean local energy while providing local economic benefits and unparalleled community resilience paving the way for the rest of the nation. All right micro grid it sound and so smart. Decentralized the electricity and then put it into these into the power we're of these little things known as community aggregated. There's which is another thing you have to look up and then we'll just have all these great clean in fact the way we'll do. It is just like this huge pilot project. We're doing an Austin Texas at the Miller f-a-s-t at the Miller housing section where we'll have solar panels on the roofs and we'll have huge battery. We're when you're put down for this community you only a couple hundred homes. We might have to have some. You know maybe some backup gas or maybe a little bit of windmill stuff but this is going to be great. Smart Art Grid is an intelligent Internet like network that aims to help consumers understand and manage. How and when they use electricity smoothing out the spikes in demand securing the supply and saving them money taught in Hannah? Calvin House may look like any of them. But like all houses in Austin neighborhood of Mila it's communicating with their power utility about its energy consumption solar power production every fifteen seconds. The pioneers of the Pecan Street project believed that it could reinvent how we use `electricity across America and the world of information formation flooring to the utility and energy from utility to you the energy my flow both ways and the Information Mike flow both ways. So it makes it a smarter system overall we can make better decisions in kind of take control of our energy consumption and examples my coffee maker. I you know I have. I spent tons and tons of time finding the perfect coffee maker and it keeps the water to specific temperature. So when you put President Bill and I'm come to find out you know through the monitoring and whatnot that that water that temperature the Monitor. I hope your mind is open to what's going on. Here is using a significant amount energy much more than it's worth the really good coffee that most people don't understand that electricity actually more to generate a different times day than others. This information will be very valuable to people if they want to shift their usage to a different time. So this is project honest I stop. He said debt electricity costs more to generate at different times than others. That's what he said. Yes what does it. How does that make any sense at all? It doesn't because it's irrelevant you guys on overtime. Maybe at night it's irrelevant to the overall story. The overall is not irrelevant to the fact that he's fully crap but don't work. No no that's the whole point is is this is all full of crap. I'm reading here from scientific American about this. Very Project PECAN or Pekan discourse at district as we say here in An awesome deal use a variety of relatively new features appearing in urban grids including large storage batteries a rising number of rooftop hop solar installations at new computer controlled programs and switches. They will also ask from help for help from homeowners. Some utilities are already promoting devices such as two-way controls on air conditioners thermostats even electric water heaters to reduce consumer power demand on super warm days when you actually want your air conditioner. This is about total control. Finally they figured out a way to take something. That is not innovative at all. Just say okay. We're just GONNA put some local power nearby who throw a couple of batteries in it because we if we disconnect you calm sorry it's an a- blackout. We couldn't control. Oh but maybe you just have to disconnect you for whatever reason it's not like this hasn't happened with Enron in California assholes get into the system and shut it down for all kinds of reasons. We are not going to give you your full. Power with your micro grid. Oh No we're going to control your fridge your air conditioner your washing machine. Everything you think Internet of things the nest thermostat already. Does this complete control over you and your home and all the power utilities. Feel that he's getting into it to move fuss and others to adopt my all. I would say within the last three or so used to go to a micro grid conference they were never be utility panel and so now they're often is and there are early adopters. I think in California. The some of the California utilities abilities are actually partnering with community choice aggregated to start. You know there's one up in Humboldt County for an airport there's one in southern California so a CCA community choice aggregate or is where a neighborhood gets together and says well we're going to buy our own energy which fits which already was set up apparently and Fitz beautifully into this microbe grid concept at so they're going to be in control they're not a private entity they're either partially owned or wholly owned by the state eight or by the city. I believe in Lancaster and there's a few other projects but there are a utility commented in Chicago. Go areas got a micro grid. They're deploying In Texas encores deployed micro grid in Vermont Green Mountain Power. So you are seeing. You're it's a what you're seeing is a transformation of the energy companies utilities going from a single grid to this new expansion which they're going to own all of it make no mistake they'll own they'll control it so we get down to the local level where we can screw you even more and force you to have your smart meters on everything thing because we're going to have to control what you do when you do it and how much you do it. And when you know the guys like bloom energy or in on it you know the scam real with with The PGA and the California fires PG knees are going to be filing for bankruptcy. There is a loss of confidence in the whole grid. What do you think the fallout from? That is going to be. And how will it affect clean energy. So more and more companies are gonNA rely on micro grids the way for you to think about a micro grid Is should there be something wrong with the macro. Which is the Italy you can isolate yourself and have this building have the electricity and all its SNEAD's taken care of using microwave and doors will be bloom like systems along with other energy sources integrated storage bridge solar? Whatever you have into Michael Grid in the last three or had more than fifty installations of micro-credits for our corporate and industrial customers sources? So those guys are in so you know the scam is on and it would be easy to say. This is not such a bad idea if we could add nuclear year right dream on. But it's going to be used as the fix for climate change and I will do that in a series of very short clips taken from the Micro Grid Knowledge Conference Two Thousand Nineteen and this is all that they were talking about. I find migrants to be particularly particularly interesting because they are meeting a number of challenges that we have right now on the reliability of our on our ability to integrate more renewable resources and our ability to general combat climate change by helping transition our overall grade for where we are saying to where we need to be transition. We need to transition our grid where we need to be trey conference progress themselves. How major role to play in fighting climate show create commute economic resilience? Poor folks all over the Yes resilience the big word of the conference. We need resilience. You really opportunity for people to push the gender Prosper difficult years. That's right difficult cold years ahead but really let's push push the agenda really need people to the church. I did that. One twice. are keen solution to climate change proven weights and saw feeling it yes. It's all about the transition. Climate Change Adaptation. It's the way to go. It's the wave of the future in the Microsoft is really really the senator transition in my now I could be. I could go on money. Well that's I think. The money is still ah with utilities since they of course thought about this like well. Who's doing it and it's nothing special? It's just that the utilities are going to have control control in a in a much more economic fashion for them to they you know they can say well we just gotTa go to the grid and if something you know for whatever reason up just turn it off or they'll be good for forty five minutes with that big battery put their But turn everything off slaves. It's control that's what a lot of people I believe and I. I'm one of them that the whole climate change arguments all about well. Yes didn't you hear the guy say push the it's all agenda twenty-one control how you live control when your car can be charged because that's another part of it getting getting that electric car but yeah well. We decided the to turn your Tesla charging off in order for you to have air conditioning. Hope you don't mind that good morning this is This is a sophisticated. And it's if you just sophisticat is it's sophisticated I agree. It's very sophisticated kidding. Because it's just it's just using all the tricks that have been learned over the years since using Silicon Valley's speak and the and the and the memes that that have been incorporated into the schools where they've taught to kids to respond to. Yeah it's extremely sophisticated makes you wonder how any buddy could actually actually coordinate this. which I think they can't well I think there was one out there? That's a good point about coordinating. We'll get to that this. This is the very last clip. I have of from that Micro Grid Knowledge Conference and they had two consultants and I think they could hear them a little bit. Better choose just the last clip and I think we can take it from there micro grid knowledge. I'm here at Microsoft's two thousand nineteen when Christian Jackson and Andrea Eh tall op Ed Andrea. Tell me what gets you. Excited about micro. Why are you laughing woman? She's so bubbly. I left left it in there. Because that's the whole point. This is not. This is a conference where people are getting ready. They're getting issued their orders on what to do these he's a big consulting companies fifty thousand person. It companies helping utilities integrate and shepherd them into the micro grid ships. Being cited is that we are bringing the energy systems energy consumption to the local level. So they are able to. This is important because this is where the kids come into play. This is where I think it's all going to come together with. This woman is say so you are able to help communities people that are not talking about this connect their consumption actually generation We've centralized power seasons. I think people have disconnected how their daily can impact the world's tale. It's incredible that we are able to reduce emissions but also get people more aware of their in fact this is goes back to the guy with his coffee so he has been taught now shamed. Actually you know you keeping your coffee coffee water at a perfect two hundred two degrees ready for your Perfect Cup of coffee is hurting the world man. You're you have no idea what your consumption is is doing. And this is the message that that is being sent to us. Is You don't know the consequences of how you just waste waste energy. So when we bring that micro grid closer and we say you can't use your air conditioning. You'll know what a bad person you were for even ever thinking of doing that. That's what this is think of the consequences when it's when it's when it's centralized and it's big powdered. We don't think about our actions what consequences inches. They have for the poor starving children of Africa. Absolutely actress in what about you. What gets you excited? I fully agree with Andre. His point about connecting the understanding of end use to wear things come from and raise raising. That awareness is very neat aspect of energy systems so neat to me. The thing that I find most exciting is the ability to adapt to new conditions and to improve our quality resilience resilience reliability with systems. That also can be more efficient and reduce emissions and also bring down costs so there's many many good outcomes from a single sort of basket of technologies basket of technologies that at least they drop op the word which I would never hear robust or the right now using resilience. Yeah yeah well this brings to mind something you think. It's possible that when we would discuss the Enron scam that was an early tempt it what we're seeing now. Sure the idea that all we have to have rolling blackouts because the state is using too much power and we don't have enough power. Our we have to have rolling blackouts for the next ten years. which by the way they told us that locally now the next ten years we're going to have blackouts because of these winds? Never never had it before. But now we're going to have for next year's so but it was for the next for the next foreseeable for the unforeseeable future dis- during the Enron era we are we have to have blackouts and brownouts because the state cannot sustain the power requirements which is obvious bullcrap because once these guys got run out of the state eight to stay was doing just fine again And then they said I'll guy where we're going to do now is possible that Enron was part of this whole scheme to begin end with this as they blew it up. They screwed it up because they're making too much money on the side or who knows west too early. which by the way? Why are these micro grid guys? All nonprofits hits. Well I'll tell you why here's the clean coalition which is based in California. This is the first clip. I played when they explained. And what is a micro grid. They are a industry group nonprofit. I'll read the quote the clean. Coalition Alicia has an impressive ability to identify the most effective clean energy policies and advocate for their widespread adoption. America's economic future and its is national security depend on transitioning to clean resilient distributed energy and I am honored to be an advisor to the clean coalition Russian James Wolsey former director of the CIA. This is the kind of people who are involved in this on the board. Of course he doesn't have to do much. Was it Wolsey. Also the one that was with Elizabeth homes at theranos. Yeah I think he walked. Why I think you're right? See if you know any of these names Josh Becker Moschino. I'm sure we look them all up. They're all in the council on Foreign Relations. The guys it's all it's all the same. It's interesting now as you mentioned it because the thing that brought down Enron was the greed. Because they're we're making money hand over fist gouging people and doing this bullcrap in California with the rolling blackouts and that got the attention of the world and they got rousted and been fined and jailed in some instances. I believe but now you have to. That was a mistake. It was a blunder. Well it's all kind of coming together. Now maybe if you look at the at the Enron as okay we know we can get people of course they were dumb that got recorded. And you know it's like the people heard what they were really doing And they didn't share the money. That's probably a bigger problem. They were making out like bandits and not any people looking in going. Hey man where's my piece of the Pie Right which is which which is typically accompanied doesn't have the Silicon Valley is placed that spreads the wealth around as much as possible to keep everybody happy but for years we were talking about smart meters and smart meters. You don't want this you don't want the government knowing what you're what you're consuming in particular because the smart meters there are two way and that they could shut them off or they could limit you. So that's where started now for years we've been hearing well. We need to smart grids. Smart Grids Smart Smart Grid. We need a smart grid rebuild the infrastructure for smart grid our mission says the clean coalition is not the Clean Coalition is a nonprofit organization nation. Whose mission is to accelerate the transition to renewable resilient energy and they modern grid through technical policy the and project development expertise? It's happening it's on the finally bring it together and it's being done under the guise of micro grid because really what what is bullshit. They'll just put another transformer station near you and then they'll charge you extra to pump in energy. It's going to cost more and you will be able not use less because Oh you have no idea what the impact is of your usage especially keep coffee pot and I and I was amazed at how much information has just spiked onto the scene in the past year about micro grids and just go look at it. You don't even have to put the word micro grid in the search just look for. PG It pops. Up Everywhere. Micro gotta go to micro grid. Yes micro grid is the go good catch. It's it's fascinating because on one hand it sounds so logical. It does but when you I mean I gotta go take a look at this awesome project. Hopefully I can find someone here. Who Can Give me a tour without exposing me. Is these the skeptical. She'll that I am to go take a look because should be no problem. These guys are always overconfident. All Judy about it. Yeah but you'll have no trouble getting a tour who I'm very interested in. This sounds great now. Of course if we have the smart grid topology and we have these. Little micro grow micro. Grids will be great to drop in a backyard nuke and then we wouldn't have to have all of the limitations because it would just run forever and it it would just be this population control. Thank you it's agenda twenty one. It's all it's all they say we gotta move the agenda. You got got an area. Rioting kill their power one at a time done easy yup looking council someplace switch knock off off off off off off off and what's interesting although I didn't make compilation. Electric cars can't even drive out of the area. They're going to determine whether whether your car could be charged or not you see it's going to be much more. It's GONNA be horrible. Who's going to decide? When's your air can be on on right? Now I got rid of nest because Google was determining what the temperature was in my house based upon what they thought remember. I was getting all those messages. All of a sudden on the nest. I oh yeah we'd like to turn it off for an hour because we're doing save the world our and the no-one US don't you remember that when I was back down. Yes yeah there was a message that save the world our today between whatever time would have will turn it all off and collectively will save so much human life whatever more P poor people in Africa live because of this or you can opt out this is this is the end and that is a real. It's yes that it's a little early but for an OT segment number. I'll just tell you yes. People who opted out of using of video available to the police from there ring Doorbell Doorbell subsequently ring gave the police stats about users. WHO opted out? I discussing is great. We're watching the police state unfold in real time. Yeah exactly uh-huh I mean and all this stuff will start the NATO or to the no agenda show. We'll all go down together. Well I have a feeling that the micro grid an awesome may not be providing enough power to opportunities thirty three on Thursdays and Sundays We're sorry you've got that podcast. No no no no we got to lower or your power. You got a downgrade you. You're going to be browned out for bid here. You're only going to allow your fridge in your air conditioner. No go outside no air conditioner for you. Yeah so everybody. I want you to be on the lookout for micro grid resilience and transitioning. Yeah you'll see it you start to see it now. Yeah and I'm sure rod a atomic rod Adams Adams will chime in because it would be perfect if at least if they can put these stupid grids in place and then we can. We had our back backyard. Nukes have some hope but no not really. It's the two way control. That's the thing that is it's the educational aspect so people can understand. How but you use? You'll I know the consequences of your coffee. Don't understand what it's doing so rude leaving your coffee at two hundred and two degrees the water so that you can have the Perfect Cup of coffee but in Africa they have nothing. That's it that's it. I'm totally leading. What's going on here now? I would also as you started off like I would love for people to think about. Where's the money? Let's get an exit. Let's invest in the right thing. Let's get out of this GIG. Yeah maybe maybe there was a code in here New Zealand. Well that was Komi. Mistakes are bigger than us. New Zealand has been the place for the elites to escape through to for years. They've been buying up all the property. There yeah good luck they'll just nationalize all that property. New Zealand is a social state. I hope people realize that when they go in there. 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We'll find find out from recently later we will To twelve dollars and twelve cents in Blaine Minnesota Minnesota nuts. Do you named ban. Here's a listener. Benelux says the run up to the twenty sixteen elections. I think you guys are the best in best form during these times during during election period. Yeah maybe been going back and listen to all of two thousand sixteen shows again and Kudos to all the producers creating the end to show mixes almost drove off the road last week. Could you played one one again of that. We have to. I have to to tell you that we forget about this stuff. And and I'm relying on producers particularly execs and associate executive. That's where you know you know the will will read this and we'll get get to it. We have so many funny things that I mean. It just doesn't come to mind anymore and when I played that again Oh God it was any kind of came. Came right on We were talking about. We were laughing in the last night. I know you saw it Jennifer Buchanan made video video an animated video out of one of our bits about gurgle and Sharpton. Did you see that thing. Yeah it was great to get some new tools. ooh beyond great. I think she's talking about the tool that made the video. She made a new boyfriend. I'm not sure what she's referring to. Or both you never know but I I mean we we. We watched it a couple of times and kept being funny. Even got my little therese in their head back and former they head bouncing around was was if you haven't seen a go look at NO AGENDA SOCIAL DOT com. Look at Adam there you can find it anyway. It's an animation. Yeah but it's it's another one. I've are bits that is just you know sometimes they. You can't write this if you wanted if you wanted to make. If you want to write a funny show you would never come up with that. And and yet there was He continues by the way. 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This experiment just won't stop twelve years running running. I'm very proud. You should be proud as well and I think it's a perfect opportunity for those of you. Who got the executive or associate executive producer credits today To list them. Wherever you might have them listed you could actually go to vis vis a bristol print and get some cards because you can now claim to be an executive producer Sir or associate executive producer of the no agenda twelfth anniversary special? I think this is a little better in parlance of production. Would you agree i. Yeah I think so. I think if you say the twelfth anniversary special then you can do. People that produce specials are special special people. They're specialists so thank you for that. And I look forward to thanking more people in our second donation segment will be twelve years and one show on Thursday so please feel free to support us once again for this The second Sunday of the shows. experience dot org working that we never had a fine but we still wear conduct. Formula is this we go out the people in the mouth. So what are you know. We forgot to do which I think is my fault since I'm driving. We forgot thank Artists for the art work. Oh I'm a total dinkum poop. What do you mean we i? Oh you're gonNA get Racial Amina reference to a joke out about you know. Yeah but yes exactly. It's a place line. Yes I try to do that. What do you mean Chemo saw bay? I got scored aid for that. You know the reference. Yes yes I know but it's very bad. You can't say Chemo Salvi even me. was there really a word chemo. Saba new remember you know. Do you remember Aaron Bersell Pod. Show vaguely big guy. Big Guy later went onto with everyone else to spoke. SNAP SPAM or spoof owes that spelunker. S- plunk doc. Plunk plunk spunk database company and he. He was Either full or part American Indian and one day something going. So what. Are you talking about Chemo. Saba and he got really pissed at me and say you're racist you're talking about is like a reference to no no no do you know. I'm American Indian because apparently CHEMO SOB as Somehow is bad. It's a bad word all along is the more or you learned. He was calling the lone ranger douchebag or something. Ladies Indian for Douchebag. Yeah the Lone Ranger's racist show the racist bunch of racists. What are you GONNA do? I guess by the way when beginning I I was digging through some. I wanted to put the other couple of archive clips. Just bring him out. So do you remember these thanksgiving. We gotta thank the artist I night. Yes then we now you can blame me. Don't worry privately. We do it all the time. So we we want to thank the artists and believe me if we if we'd pass this one by it would be hell to pay the cover art for episode eleven eighty four was the hands down the best it was brought to you by comic strip blogger and it was the EU logo bleeding dripping out. And I don't know for some reason it was. We looked at a lot of different things that were that were up there. There were people did Google stuff and some other but this it would the symbolism symbolism of it in timing with Brexit it was I think it was just cool it just totally made it all all fit. Together I used Darren O'Neal's twelfth anniversary Years of twelve years of excellence as the newsletter art which then then re tweeted and I thought that was a nice spec- and this is the point that so much of this art is funny. It's humorous doing good memes With topical humor to make it really work somebody would just completely inappropriate to be displayed in public. At least some of it is gross. Sounds like we don't really want that on the front of tunes. If that's in fact will never be on the front of I tunes. If we do that but there was something else you were going to make mention of something but you probably forgot I did about the I think the one there was one piece I'll tell you which one it is. Yeah it was it was another Darren. O'Neill piece I I liked. which was the gurgle piece which showed who is a natural Nazi propaganda as I write the F. Piece but yes it was a good piece? It was funny but somehow the really you were in in love with bleeding. You're right so what can I say. I was in love with the bleeding logo and I pushed it pushed it and it was not for me. I just no reason not I liked it too. Yeah exactly sometimes we just. This is how a good relationship works well. It's like having two art directors terse yet which is you're actually the directors of the show. Yeah Yeah you look but his committee. It's a committee. It's not like one guy's always going to be picking the same kind of thing constantly when it if we have a real art argument than I always let you in because you know you know more you have more credits. Don't always let me win. That's nonsense whenever whenever we choose what you want. That's me letting you win. What are you talking about? We're always in Super Agreement John. There's never any disagreement about anything. I also like the other one. That was the ones that were good. As was was the flag being raised with which I think was the show before. Yeah anyway okay. Would you get credited. went out there. So what's CSB ESP or commas. Jared blog now it was. It was comicstrip blogger. Whatever happened to the guy to come to got deported so I went back and looked at some old clips to figure out gets a little clips from twelve years ago but it's a lot from ten years ago in his ten years ago by the where where we got the punch him in the mouth clip. I'd had which is interesting to hit him in the mouth hit him in the mouth but I got a couple of clips for two thousand nine about Nice. I thought it would be worth replaying thought. One of them we played it was kind of a mainstay for a while. This is the Clinton Hillary Clinton that I always thought was you remember when you play it. Hillary's concluding a trip to Africa now with the only female elected president on the continent in Liberia. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf but a couple of days ago. She was in Goma in the Congo side of one of the most difficult refugee camps camps in the entire world. I don't know what you think but I think American secretaries of state ought to be in the places of human misery around the world. Like your home home. Wow Two thousand nine. So what was the occasion of this. was that this is guests kind of setting hillary up for two thousand nine so she she just she was just these the secretary of state. I just thought it was a nasty Asti comment. Personally yeah the and then the other one I- pullout which I thought was kind of interesting this game in clip which is Another another another twenty nine seconds tank. A look at our victim. Dante looks like man on the left in the middle of the right way. Is this what. TV TV shows this. This is from. I think I think there's one the Svu. I think views list orders. I believe and it was the first time I ever heard dissonant. If he'd look it up it's documented and I thought it was We bring it back into the into play and so I thought I'd police clip out which purpose Dante they met on the left in the middle men on the left. All you have a sixth sense by that I mean you see gay. People seeking Dante's gay. Yeah so do you. All the men on the left are gay. A new study in the Journal of Experimental Psychology showed that most people can identify gay men by face along along that has to do with the pattern of muscle tension in the face. Yeah Good luck with the talking about that. These days. Yeah well wasn't wasn't is based on. Research was based on research guy said put together an al go and they could detect that then they had a pretty high success rate. Yeah but yeah. It's just no. I think I'm pretty good at detecting that too. Well I think I aggregate or. Sometimes you could be wrong. I mean sure but you bring it up some. I'm Guy Looks Gay. The you know the facially is not like is dressed in pink. But it's the guy just looks gay and you can bring this up with millennials. The real wait a minute you brought up to millennial. Hey I can see if a guy if a dude's looking at his face that's what you said. Oh now I'm gonNA keep saying no until you stop saying what you're saying no what you do as you're watching. TV or somebody say that Guy Looks Gay just out of the blue like that and because he does unfortunately with most Hollywood productions is like you know everybody but the Guy Looks Gay. And then you throw throw this factoid. At them about people have been studied in the facial. Looks Dry you can spot certain certain not all by any means men and who are gay because they have a certain look and it always just makes him nuts even though they agree that the guy looks gay. How can a guy look gay unless there's something to him looking gay I don did? They can't get there. They can't get their head around it. It's a I would not recommend commend this as a fun experiment for the weekend with your millennial you probably best to stay away from this whole idea. Now it's already been is already been coming gone has come and gone Oh that was it those those historical clips. Those are my two historical clips. It turns got in two thousand nine when we first started doing clips to an extreme There weren't a Lotta clips to pick from. Well I mean I would send you like six Clemson clips that would be it. Sure four well with a there wasn't such an abundance. We didn't really what we did have youtube. I think at the time two thousand nine. We had youtube then didn't we. Of course we did. Yeah but stuff. People weren't putting their their stuff's on Youtube. Oh no no. I didn't want any part of it. Now it's delusion and yes. It is a deluge for sure. Well I have a couple of Let's see some twenty twenty stuff just to kind of move it along. We had the the honourable it lies. Your comings was laid to rest. And he got quite quite the send-off from a from the elites in Washington Of course you know he's an iconic figure. He was part of a huge part of the civil rights movement. At least that's what we see on the Wikipedia He was at Selma He was certainly a part of of the dramatize televised parts which is very good. He's very important for for things he's done. And of course He was very embroiled with the president in the he went down fighting. As we've seen many people tweet he was still signing all kinds of subpoena papers as he was dying he went down a champ to to You know to try and get the president impeached and I. I think there's certain things for so when you have this big. Ah I mean it's really it's nice and It's it's. It's the honorable thing to do. I hope you don't have for every single congressman. I mean yeah. I don't know what the what the cutoff is. Or what the what qualifications you need to lay in state means rare it's very rare McCain inhabit. which even that was considered reasonably rare now? Elijah Elijah Cummings man that they set it up nice and the way they had the ceremony done. It was a grand production was beautifully done. I really despise that. Hillary Clinton politicized politicized her eulogy. And it's it's not about Clinton it's not about is just inappropriate. It's inappropriate appropriate to do that. But if you've read anything about the Clintons and it is Clinton cash I believe that starts off with the opening opening a chapter in the book. It's the Tim Russert Funeral. Tim Russert who is the predecessor to chip chip on chip todd on meet the press chip time Tim Russert he died in all of Washington came out to To celebrate his life in the Church and the whole first chapter this Clinton cash book is an account of how they work the crowd. Because that's what they do. They go to funerals weddings and they work the crowd. And I wanted to play this for posterity's sake because I thought before you played I think a lot of it has to do. I could be wrong here but I think that the Elijah Cummings coffin was filled with cocaine also prayed and works for healing and he weathered storms and earthquakes but never lost his faith like that Old Testament Prophecy stood stood against corrupt leadership. King Ahab in Queens. Just val the and the crowd goes why there's a little more to that. So she essentially is comparing trump and guess Malania the first lady to king a Hab and Queen Jessil New of course were were the false prophets Petite Jessica was really the bad per the bad one in this mix King Ahab. The AD was was was no No sweetheart but it was. Jessie Belle who I think she that she means that she mean Malania. Nia with that you know just joined me Jessa. Bill she herself suffered a gruesome death of defense defense stray Shen which I had to look up. Have you ever heard of this death by deaf instruction I have no idea it means I throw Out The window. Oh Oh so they just solit- out the window. Deformation buildings back there only two stories stories. defenestration is the act of throwing someone out the window. The coin was the term was coined around the time of incident at Prague Castle Castle in Sixteen eighteen eighteen which became the spark that started the thirty years war. This was done in good Bohemian style. At least they did it in good Bohemian Liam style. So yeah so these are horrible people and she just said hey you know. He didn't bow to those horrible people but it gets better and he looked out for the vulnerable among us. He lifted up. The next generation of leaders leaders even worked a few miracles and he kept reminding us. Life is no dress rehearsal. The American people want to live their lives without fear of their leaders as leaders. We have a responsibility to keep keep the promises made when running for office to make the lives of Americans better so Oh of course he you know we should not be afraid of our leaders and other slam at trump but also it by the way the way she phrased it. She made it sound as she. She is one of the leaders she did and this is my second point is I'm sick and tired of politicians calling themselves leaders your representative Ah chosen well. Hillary Clinton has not chosen representative. She's chosen by heels above but this has got to stop this leaders. Oh leader Pelosi leader. Schumer owed leader Hillary buzz off it. We have a clip of fancy calling themselves leaders gin then. We have a clip of of Jim McLaren. Not mclemore but Jim they'd been there's mic Lille macneil Lehrer Jim Lehrer how once asking somebody what will happen when when the if you become our ruler. Remember the ruler remember. Let me see. I don't know if I had called him. A guy called a guy. He's going to be a ruler. It's not even a leader. Eater is ruler leaders slaves. Yes well I'm sick of it and I just don't think it's okayed for people who are have been elected to represent portions of the American public to leader said on is their representatives are not leaders and they're definitely not rulers. No but you're right. She counts herself in their kind of the way she would as leader an interesting pet peeves sickening sickening. Well it's it's kind of like our country. The country disco. Know every everyone else. This no it's our country. My coaches our our country but did these mostly people of Hillary Ilk. Yes is this. Oh yeah this country now. Let's go go to two of the leading candidates for Democratic nominee to run as president a very serious process where serious job two of the same question asked in a little different manner by to pose to two of the leaders leaders leaders in the race which is different from leader in the House Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders at the question is about the cops and it's basically about the talk so if you're and it's ass posed by black Americans who are saying. Hey what what would you tell your kid if If I were your kid would you tell me about dealing with the cops if they pull me over and Joe Biden goes I own their power one she I I mean first. First of all he says Oh no you. You would be Caucasian. You wouldn't be black if you're my daughter and you wouldn't get pulled over in. What was your inquire Americans should go back in sensitivity? Hello Pot Kettle Calling Joe with your sensitivity training sedivy training evidence that term for thirty or forty years. But I think it's the way that's extremely bullshit. Women get pulled over all the time course. It's an incredibly rude to say this about the police like well. It'd be if you were Mike could you. Byu And get pulled over and it systemic racism Fu Joe Biden. I think we're a little more integrated these days. I don't know if you're still living the bussing era and Bernie Sanders. He's completely nuts questions to you if I'm if I'm your son. What advice would you give me the doc just so remember? This is about what advice. It's just what Bernie Sanders thinks of law enforcement in America. The next time I'll be pulled over by police officer next time be pulled over by police officer. I would do my best to identify who that police officer is in a polite way. Ask Him or her for their name. I would respect what they are doing. So that you don't don't get shot in the back of the head. I would also be very mindful of the fact that as a nation Russian. We have got to hold police officers accountable for the actions that they commit. And that is so so to answer your question. I would be very cautious if you will my son in terms of dealing with that police officer butter also defend my rights and no my the rights and make sure your possible. That police officers camera is on what goes on tepid round round of applause for Bernie on that one so basically. Hey whatever you do careful because these guys are shoot you in the back of the head. This is not okay. This is crazy talk. And by the way. WHO's protecting you Bernie? When you roam around do you have any kind of security detail are? They related needed to police under. They have guns have gone to be careful. You're going to get shot in the back of the head unbelievable and that that's a good. That's a borderline clip of the day. That one that's a beauty eighty. Yeah well I I. I'm sad I have to take it because it's so disgusting Dushi shoot in the back etc had superduty now the guy I really would like to have run for president has done an interview on Big Boy TV which Now the whole interview. I'm going to deconstruct with MOE on Monday as Kanye West. Who is bullet proof that I envy Konya He? He's able to do pretty much anything wants say exactly what's on his mind and people. Oh still by his damn sneakers. It's then they by his music and I also think sneakers easies Baby v the easies in the five hundred dollars. Z's five hundred dollar sneakers s and so he you know I cagno was saying. Hey you know I can. I'm a black man. I'm putting on a red hat. Supporting trump isn't that crazy and now he is new album album. which dropped? Did you see a drop dropped drops. I understand. It broke a drop them broke called. Jesus is king. This is part out of his spiritual Journey he has the Sunday morning sessions which are quite cool to watch And it's all you know it's church. He's he's he's I don't know if he's going back to his religious roots but he's now portraying that and he's getting a lot of grief for showing that he believes in God even though he believes he's God but or better than whatever it is. He's he's showing his faith and he's getting a lot of grief for it and from that interview. I WANNA play two minutes because it's just I just love what he says they were fighting for us to have the right to our opinion. Not The right to vote for or whoever the White Liberal said black people are supposed to vote for him saying then James Corden win but this president you're Christian in this president. I don't see anything Christian about him. I said Okay so last year I tried to tell me who I suppose. Vote for because I'm black now. This year White Liberal Chinatown me call supposed to vote for. Because I'm Christian. That would be I live in calabasas convertible This is all basal. Ya Ah vision of what I'm supposed to do and I understand like a lot of people is not a matter whether you like it or who we are in a country were we allowed to like whatever we like. We'll listen if people say you turn your back on the coacher or exactly one hundred percent Zan. I have turned my back on the idea of victimization mentality. We are locked up. We went from one in four. We went from one unaffordable one and three but we always pointing the white people but yet we want to spend all of our money on foreign we you WANNA spend all our money on luxury as opposed to going and buying some land. America is for sale. And there's a lot of barren land disney. He bought a lot of it and Florida but the coach has you focus so much on. Fuck you somebody bitch. And pulling up in a foreign and rapping pin about things that could get you locked up. And they're saying you about prisoner for Brown. We brainwashed out here Bro. Oh come on man. It's the free mad talk. It Democrats had his vote. Democrats have food stamps for years Bro. Whereas you're talking about guns it's in the eighties taken? The fathers out the home plan B. Nor enough votes making us our board our children. Gosh kill this guy. I would actually consider calling a leader although looking at the troll room. You guys don't understand con- yeah that's for sure. People dislike him interesting. I learned something here about rolling up in a foreign. Yeah I hadn't heard that term is referring to a car ends. Guess well it's the three bs it's Beamer Benz Bentley the side. I'd never ride but never heard the rolling up in a foreign kind of like that being start using it. If I had a foreign to roll up in would use it. You don't have to add one right rolling up in a foreign I like well. I don't know him so I can't wear the I don't know him either. I always music is alien to most of my tastes tastes and most hip hop is. He's Green Day. Let's be honest. It's a different desert completely different. John Russell I don't I know why you need to know to not to your taste so it's not my job. Tends to classical music. Twenty four seven yes. I know that I'm not. I'm not making fun of you. I put up with her. See then I would have been making fun. If you've said you'll put up with her very nice you'll put up with her so let's take a look at a couple of things go back in time again. Be Much before the show began. Unfortunately I made this clip and then I never got that cat. The guy's name but there's a democratic congressman on the House floor. Well you can try to. People can try to guess the date but here we go in twenty four years ago with the president of the United States. This Day. DEF- feels to me like we're taking a step down the road to becoming a political lynch mob. We're in so much. Hurry worry to get this done so it can be in the Saturday Sunday new cycle and have our mint juleps at five o'clock. You're GonNa uh find a rope. Find a tree and ask a bunch of questions later it will be too late for fairness we I you back in the day when you could still talk about lynchings as a Democrat. Now good days. Good Miss Those good times. Yeah Ninety as this response to you and you can't say anything anymore except on the no agenda show this is where somehow no and why is that. Adam is only one reason because there is no way to d he platform us. We have our own infrastructure. Run by us the non when I say us I mean the producers. I'm talking about avoid zero. Bem Rose Darren. Oh yeah everyone running stuff. We have our own information streams we have our own network. We have our own social network and most of ball. We don't have advertisers. I'M GONNA show much little by donate to know agenda. Imagine all the people who could do. That'd be yeah that's right. We play five clips and back to the thanking can people we do have people to thank for show eleven. Eighty five the roundup of the people that are thanking us for twelve th anniversary and it's a good list not starting with Noah wotton maker. I think pronounce next stop you for a second. What did you mean by? We pay play five clips more asu short short short interlude. Let me tell you exactly how this works. One hour into the show is when I tried to get the start. Executive executive producer ships at five minutes past the two hour. Mark is where I tried to get. The second segment started any complaints. Because it's the way the block system works. It's been like this for a long time. You just you just seemed like it went flew by. Oh because you're having fun that that makes sense. I guess I just mentioned it because I thought it was. I thought we're flowing by by looking at the clock and you're actually behind exactly your ten minutes behind and the normal clock exactly Nora wotton maker starts to soften hundred five dollars and sixty five cents and this scene and other guy. Just go onto the podium. This makes me night at last light to be absurd Koya of the Sierra Bass Seles Voice. Okay battling with some clean sheets in hot cocoa at the table please love Yaw producers included of course happy anniversary. I think he He sent him a note later. Said could you please. Change names that to fresh sheets instead of clean sheets. He says he didn't feel like it made any sense so yes course I have. I have them read the difference. Roster Daddy cast is up through honor forty four dollars congressional US Sir Arthur Gob. GAUBERT's go bits. which I I remember hearing from him for a while? tastes for my sanity is what he really says. Mark Hall which I believe in Texas or Mark Hall the officials of our documentarian of the no agenda show monkey. Renner South Dakota one by the way in one twenty that was sir. Gaba was one twenty one twenty one and Mark Call One twenty one twenty one of those ten years twelve years of slave donations hold on the fell by sort code monkey at one twenty. Can I can just read Sir. Mark Hall's note for a second jer dear John and Adam congrats on twelve years of no agenda into four out of ten psychologists. Say No agenda is more addictive than cocaine and Oreos could be ser- code Mike. You went twenty one twenty and Renner Intercept Kota Kala Colin Pettit One twenty-one twenty or petite Desert also the twelve year once the previous show Mel Coir verlander deccan milk. Your funder dicken Malki or yeah that makes more sense. He's in the Czech Republic is yes yes thinks. Chelsea public 121.20 Coal Canned candler went twenty. One Twenty John on grumbling pretty amazing 121.20 amazing. This show is lasted this long. Also says just as amazing no one else seems to figure it out that does surprise. It's not amazing but it does surprise me like haven't you figured it out that the key to maybe all modern media. Yeah all all modern meeting new media the key is you have to have the people producing with you. It's no longer consumer stuff. This is the mistake they all make. I also take more than that. I think we figured out data but he's also I think preferring to the material. Nobody else does does our show a day. I mean the. There's one group that did it for a while kind of but the overproduced it with the other elements. Just try to do video where he's talking about something else nano video. You're right this day. TRY TO DO VIDEO. I don't know what the point of that was just added to the overhead attitude to the problem. Yeah we've seen other groups that do Get pretty good shows and they make a lot of money more than we do actually but they got ten people working there. They got a producer and they got a guy aboard air for Mike Guy in a gaffer. 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Wow there's a lot of meet ups on Sunday we like to do A little bit of a run down for you brand new to the list is Wednesday Toronto local And this'll be Elizabeth may straw drive at At the meeting at the Duke of Westminster's the name the venue and that'll be on Wednesday at five thirty in the afternoon on Friday. The first Seattle monthly at seven thirty in the Canterbury Ale House Saturday the Second Boston at noon. Pay attention to these times at the fall neo hall beer garden that the Patios A lot of a lot of people are going to be there. A lot of organizers UPDATED THE TRI-STATE PENNSYLVANIA MEET UP SOMERSET NEW JERSEY. Three o'clock on on Saturday that'll be at Stage House Tavern Somerset New Jersey. The seven th. That's next Thursday. Orange County no agenda. 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It's hard to make anything quick when it comes to meet up reports and please note that there's no way we can do all your meet up reports a because they're very long you need to put come on no agenda meet UPS DOT com so everybody can enjoy them but also there's too many meet ups do WanNa make mention of the Shanghai meet up which had seven people in attendance. Sent me pictures. So this Atlano Pat Adam Reese. JCD An atom OJ cities heads on the stick. That's right you were there magnum Dr Jones my head on a stick and mark five Americans one from the UK one from Ukraine to tech engineers and four teachers to very nice to hear And they had a very good time and that was I think Professor Jones are PhD. Who organized that and nice to know that and we reach all the way to Shanghai enough for people to hang out meet up with each other they get to show their? How do they get the show? I didn't know they could but I guess they have ways around the great firewall of China. The Queen City slaves held their inaugural. Meet Up Friday night at the Sycamore Brewing in Charlotte. Now this was hosted by bill or BS. Bill Cameron there were fifteen to twenty producers that showed up brought together by the heads on the sheet poster. Everything good they say about no agenda meet. UPS held true for our a group an ECLECTIC mix of getting Gitmo nation slaves. Having never met one another but chatting laughing together like lifelong friends with no triggering and plenty of in the mornings. It's Rick whose name I did not catch from. China was also to give us the authentic China is asshole we had nights pre nights pre dame's Douche bags the resident accident no agenda tranny alley jade and true and a seed man fan wearing a space force t shirt. I'm glad that people got to meet The official tranny of the the gender show. Allie J she she keeps us on the straight and narrow as it were conversations ranging from neuro linguistic programming to Epstein to. What's your favorite? But first person shooter couldn't couldn't have found a better group of people to spend my Friday night with truly a blessing to be connected to all these like minded individuals to inorganic organic network. That you to have lead over these past twelve years. Yes we're leaders. It's refreshing to have conversations with people that see through the propaganda of the m five and the group think think of modern popular culture driven by the elites And I think I have one more. Yes organ local thirty three meet up blast this interesting greetings podfather buzzkill. We had a great turnout of fourteen at the F. in brewer in Oregon city with the intention attention of doing some acts throwing. But things don't always go as planned turns out. There were only two throwing lanes and they were already booked for the night then we came to find find out they had a really loud live band. onstage that combined with limited indoor seating left us standing outside in near forty five degree weather wondering what to do new fortunately they had a couple of large outdoor fire pits as some kind souls brought a large stack of kindling warm-ups. Next thing we know it's four hours later guests as far away. Seattle always like a gathering all for of old friends ages spanning from nineteen to well past sixties sixty matchups are part of any well managed a macdill health plan. And I read these so people can understand how important this is. I mean this is this is you're you're doing. We're just making time for it on the show and you know we help with some infrastructure also produced by you but this is this is the group that you're a part of and I think that some of these relationships will last passed on for a long time that beyond the shit well beyond Adam and John The show may continue forever but eventually eventually actually we go down this is where you say something encouraging. Hello no agenda meet. UPS Dot Com is where you can find all of the meet ups that we were discussing But also if you don't see one new don't you go ahead and create one. I thank you all for your courage for supporting this supporting the show and for being with us for twelve years or one year twelve months or twelve minutes. You're all welcome here. All right is there are a few people that actually were since the beginning and then there's people that started to be we know we don't recommend that we recommend you listen to the show as it go at you know the one that we just did. It doesn't matter who I talked to when it comes to that if I say I was talking to some some of the other day I I said you know people. If they miss three shows they'll go back in the listen they'll catch up and I think you and I. John are both of the opinion that why just just listen to what's new with some. Yeah there's something about the episodic nature or being part in you know missing something I guess yes. Well you do miss certain things but we try to. We try to back announced as much as we can. It's hard though a lot a a lot of things that we just wanted to play that clip about the gay faces. That's the reason. The is the exact reason but see if I said ranch hand right now not everybody would understand because they had listened to all the things. You're right ranch. Hand is one of the another little tidbits lost in the shuffle. But is it data important. I don't think so Let's take a look at the UN housed situation both in California and and in Austin Texas Austin now it looks like we have reverse the rules. You're no longer be allowed to camp and or sit hit on public sidewalks unless you are fifteen feet from the doorway so cops literally have rulers to measure out fifteen fifteen feet than if you're within that fifteen feet. They still have to give you fair warning. Tell you where you can go. Make sure that you understand where you can go and only then can they do something about it and so we continue to have The unserved and clearly unwelcome homeless population stuck under the bridge on And the highways of one eighty three and I thirty five live with very little done for them of course because now it's only become an argument about Where we're going to stick these people One of our local guys here and Tina's really big. She's she's very. He follows the UN house conversation very closely here in Austin. And here's a guy who's part of this you know group of people who are really trying to figure out what to do and wow what what an idea. He decided to talk to a homeless guy record him and see what he had to say about the changes in the city ordinance And if that show and this is the conversation now should it be Also pertain to sleeping under bridges and Highways Highway. Should we move them out of there as well. John Moran he's over here on four th street and he's got a couple of thoughts you'd like to share about Abbott's and saying that he's GONNA use tax to remove the encampments underneath the bridge. I should probably add to this governor. Abbot has threatened the mayor of Austin if if the homeless don't disappear if we don't protect the other citizens of Austin he's going to send in government agencies to clear everything out and that would be text dot Texas Department of Transportation who apparently would be removing everything under the highways and the bridges. Thing that he's GonNA use texts dot to remove the encampments underneath the bridge. What do you think's going to happen? And how do you feel about chaos riot one day a riot on. You're way said that because you move is not marijn joys of orders and also if you will call us because we're not gonNA l.. Move on back and they're gonNA move nece service than Ridge. You'd think it was good and that the council is is has banned camping on sidewalks. But you think that they should leave the camping under under the bridge. Yes I really Britain. Yes I was Norway. You know I don't mind flying signed that's like I can fly in his sign you mean panhandling up a sign asking for money the cabinet bridges. Keep that we need area the sidewalks nor waist band nap or I don't mind that bridges leave him alone. Police lease somewhere. You sleep somewhere. I found that interesting now. He's like you know we shouldn't wouldn't be hanging out on the sidewalks. Say I don't mind flying assign which is begging but now we shouldn't. We shouldn't be sleeping on the streets. Jason Fund businesses. We but we do belong under the bridges and the beloit like trolls. Yeah Yeah Sugar Warren Texas. It's very possible but now let's see how things are going in California where this well is it the Santa Rosa a bike trail. I think the one that that may with the video went viral. The Guy biking along this trail just miles and miles of in southern California. That wasn't in Santa Rosa. No well he's an election in Santa Rosa. Oh really in the Roseland area of Santa Rosa. The Joe Rohde the trail is technically in the county regional park system but lately those calling the shots here are the homeless who have taken it over. A group of angry residents events calling themselves citizens for action now posted this video of the encampments running for a quarter mile up the trail including a man who appears to be injecting himself in in full view of everyone police estimate more than one hundred tents in the camp. But they can't do anything about it because of a twenty eighteen federal court ruling in Idaho that said homeless people cannot be visited from public property unless there is a bed available and storage for personal belongings. So I think you've heard this on the no agenda show. This is the case that came out of Boise and is being touted by Douche bags all across the country as oh. We can't actually remove homeless encampments encampments because it's unconstitutional. I'll I'll put that article in the show notes. The ESU email by the way you misled me. Why we're wanting I didn't know there was his action in but it's only a quarter mile so the guy driving for miles and miles like the one in L. A. that one in La Different? That's different yes. I was wrong but it keeps going. So officials have now simply posted a sign warning the public against using this public trail kind of seen as giving gene in giving in or giving up temporarily. Maybe until they figure out what to do and the homeless seem to agree Ravon Hill lives here. Works to keep this place peaceful. But she believes the sign establishes this area as a place where the homeless can reside in lieu of providing enough beds. For All that need one. Do you see that as some kind of acknowledgement that this is now your space We have been given the right to believe. Leave them until they give us places where we can actually be not have to get shifted every other day. The sheer number of homeless people has outpaced government's ability to deal with it but it is also too big. A problem to ignore and homeowners are making sure officials understand that in Santa Rosa John Ramos. KPI X five. I want to throw something in here to this. Mix positioned himself as Idaho case And it's really really unusual that some local case in Idaho becomes like the rallying cry for homeless advocates and by and I think homeless advocates are actually advocating homelessness in California elsewhere. Because in the seventies for example there was a ruling by a local judge in Berkeley that prostitutes streetwalkers there is a lot of streetwalkers back in the seventies You couldn't arrest any of them unless you arrested the all the customers and so the cops were going to do that because it was too much of. It was just not gonNA happen happen. That was gonna make mess courts and everything else so they just let for all practical purposes from around one thousand nine hundred. Seventy three or nineteen seventy four four to about nineteen eighty streetwalkers were legal in Berkeley. And it turned out to be Oakland just kind of in the bay area but I didn't hear that it was legal. Legal all over the country. Well this let me let me add something because as it relates to the Boise case the the ninth ninth circuit struck down the camping ban. They're saying that it violated the Eighth Amendment's protection on cruel and unusual punishment. That's the the whole that's what they're basing it. On and of course the ninth circuit would be. Oh new. You're right that's cruel and unusual punishment to have your ten taken away and so- Boise has appealed to the supreme court which is what everybody is waiting for. But that's what's going on. It's a social justice. Does Warrior take on the Eighth Amendment. Bill the ninth circuit is would be one of the groups to do it exactly and this is what Austin is also saying well we. Can't you know it's really a problem. Because you know the Boise had it with their Eighth Amendment Prageru. We'll have to wait for the Supreme Court. I don't know if these people are pussies or were what it is. I mean I obviously agree. The report was a report. I didn't clip this now. That you brought this up. I should have. But democracy now did a whole special on homelessness in the Bay area and a cited Oakland Ground Zero. Really which interesting really isn't but it but it is on one hand and isn't on the other but admit I would say three years ago four years ago if you were when the homeless situation was street pooping all arrests special in San Francisco Star Sir. Starting to boom it was becoming a boom Oakland was. There was no homeless in Oakland. And I always thought to myself well you know Oakland takes a harsher stance than anybody else in the so you. San Francisco's loaded with homeless in Oakland. Got None and then now. All of a sudden Oakland's crawling with homeless. They get huge. Encampments happened here and there and would public parks have been taken over light. There's supposed to be parks for kids and the rest and there's just homeless encampments and there. It's abused shantytowns. And I must have been stemming from this Idaho thanks situation and it's the same thing and this has gone all up and down the west coast I and it's it's we might as well. Just Call Austin the part of the West Coast when it comes to justice and of course none of this actually deals with the problem of the homeless. It's all just. Where do we put him? which is the sad part about it because you get to this point where you've made it you know for four four months? It's been mayhem. Awesome certainly downtown. And now it's not even about. How do we help? Or what can we do. Where do we put him and where do we not put him? It's disgusting it is. It is actually tremendous privilege. All of Austin is one big DOUCHEBAG ARY of privilege so I'm a teen and I having dinner with Alan Graham at community. I village this week. Maybe I'll have more to report about what happened happen to our homelessness czar. Who quit after one day on the job? Die Like to know that story like well. That's a hopeless situation Jewish. Thanks for that report question. You tweeted on Thursday that you couldn't even find my tweet about the show. Did Not show up in my stream. I can find it by going to Adam Curry right but you can i. I follow you. And I'm and I get a stream dream of tweets from everyone I follow and some of them never show up and yours didn't show up at all and I went all the way to the day before and it went all the way way forward enjoy made sure that I could make this tweet that you weren't in there and you weren't you know it's interesting because I was discussing this with Tina and she says yeah but you really don't tweet. What are you talking about so you don't tweet tweet? Every day she has. My wife has not been seeing my tweets either because she just looks industry she doesn't see is you. Don't tweet tweet tweet I get none of your. I mean who wants to know while the tweets come through last week Eh especially the show tweet. I always look for that. That comes through about I. Say Two thirds of the timing and the third of the time it never shows up in my stream at all ever. I want you to a pay attention because I think well at least I had a realization of what the problem may be twitter. May think I'm just a bought and I'll tell you why every time I tweet out out the show or every time I tweet out The priest near the pre show art. It's all through the API goes through the freedom controllers through the API and it post post. Which I'm sure gets a mark against me in twitter land And I also have not followed anyone new in a long time time so I decided to start just following people in fact if you show up and you have No agenda or associates or just producer. I'll follow you if I see I see it and I think just based upon A couple of days worth of tweeting. I think that has made a difference. I think the AL go just was fading me out as some bought. That isn't really. That interesting is true. I don't really engage and I you know I replied people that's about all the tweeting I do but but everything else comes from the API. And I think that may be hurting my That and I have no checkmark. Of course that could be hurting my mark. Mark has anything to do with. No yes absolutely you WanNa tell me that if twitter has a choice of who they put on your feed. They're they're gonNA show the checkmark first first before they show me. Of course it is. That's the cult. Wish your in I might add I think that has a lot to do it. No I don't notice this I do notice that your tweets that I'm following specifically I specifically follow. I'm not getting getting getting right. It's just like now that you mentioned teen is not getting you either now. This is now at the point of being ridiculous. That means nobody's getting you story of my life. Nobody gets me. It's really the story through this door. Yes this guy anyway. So I really don't care I mean I'm on no I don't know I don't i. I really have stopped carrying. It doesn't add that much to us. Twitter IT'S A. It's an alert mechanism to. It's easy but I think people who really we are interested. have an account at no agenda Social Dot Com. Where where we don't have any AL goes is just? I'm there all the time. The yes I know. And that is free free. Unlike and I love this finally happened. Google is now charging. This is hilarious. If you have g mail and you're using more or then it's I think it's fifteen maybe it's thirteen gigabytes which fills up pretty fast. You're now going to have to pay a Monthly what they've stopped. You'RE GONNA pay. Why Pay Google? That's not the one you WANNA pay go. If you have thirteen gigabytes gigabytes of email stored on g mail. And you're just a regular joe who does not listen to the no agenda show has no idea that you can actually get email l. in other places safer more secure better and that Google looks through your email to market towards you. Yeah they do. You're you're now going to pay for the privilege of this thirteen or fifteen gigabyte level and people are starting to figure it out because Google put this policy in place and people who already far over their quota all of a sudden. They're getting messages out. You better you better sign up to the Google one is what is it's called. Google one. Google one for one for one ninety nine a month otherwise you will not be able to send receive email and people are starting to get unhappy unhappy about it. And I'm just sitting back going. What did you think was about fifteen years for free Bayton switch? Yeah Long Game I would recommend Proton personally and I think you should do your own Proton meal. The only thing I don't like about it is I have one encryption key for everybody. So if someone sends me a message from Proton Mail it's encrypted by default or you can they can make an encrypted turn on encryption but it's not a personal key it's always a key for everybody which is very strange wind up clips. I do in my riots report because there's all these riots aren't being reported. Although democracy now mentions agents a couple of them but they don't mention all of them and then. PBS MENCH is a couple of democracy now doesn't mention and they don't mention a democracy now once why would they. It's not but but trump let's go with. Let's get through these riots so we can see what's going on. Here's here's the riots report. This is Chile and Bolivia the president. Sebastian Pinera called for a major reshuffling of his cabinet today following mass protests in Chile. This week one million people took to the streets and Santiago last last night going for academic reforms the protests there began more than a week ago after a now cancelled the increase in subway fares. PINEYRO declared a state of emergency or it's much of Chile earlier this week but said he plans to lift it as soon as tomorrow. At least seventeen people were killed and as many as seven thousand have been arrested since the protests tests began protests also continued last night in Bolivia after an official vote. Tally showed president. Evo Morales received enough votes to avoid a runoff. In last Sunday's election residents in La Paz banged pots took to the streets demanding. Another vote despite Morales declaring victory the official count showed Morales had more than a ten point lead lead over Carlos Mesa a former president but Bolivia's Supreme Electoral Tribunal did not declare a winner the United Nations along with the US Brazil Argentina. Tina are demanding a runoff between Morales and Mesa. No wait a minute. WHO's our guy? Chew up really not this guy we gotta we gotta figure out who the Shil is. Do they have any value there. So we don't care that much but let's go to Let's go to Ecuador where there's riots in Ecuador Indigenous Ernest rights activists say. They've halted negotiations with president. Lean Merano over. The government's persecution of indigenous leader Hi may Vargas Vargas. As the head of the Indigenous Nationalities Alevis of Ecuador Kaanai the organization that led recent anti-austerity protests in Ecuador the massive anti-government protests were ongoing for two weeks and ceased after president. Merano indigenous leader struck a deal to cancel an austerity package. Push by the International Monetary Fund. Row Globalist globalist globalist bliss. Guinea Guinea tens of thousands of protesters flooded the streets of the capital. Conakry and other cities around the west African nation. Thursday opposing a proposed constitutional change. That would let the sitting president run for a third term in office. The protests were heavily policed but peaceful spell unlike smaller demonstrations last week that saw police open fire with live rounds killing at least nine people and sending scores to the hospital. After those protests authority the sentenced a dozen opposition politicians civil society leaders to jail terms of up to one year and not even getting to Hong Kong France and parts of of Europe. Let's go to Iraq. Iraq security forces used tear gas to fight protesters who tried to enter Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone today. Demonstrators attempted to remove blast walls that were built on bridge in central Baghdad to protect the government area. Today's clashes came just one day after at least forty forty. Two people were killed in renewed violence between government forces and the leaderless demonstrators. One hundred and forty nine people were killed during the first round of demonstrations earlier earlier. This month the anti-government protestors are demanding better jobs and services. This is in the Green Zone which we don't talk about much much anymore. But it's the thing built by the United States. There's a big monstrous Attasi who billionaires projects the Greens view safe area. Sorry in the middle of nowhere right were in Baghdad in the middle of it that is kind of impossible to get into or whatever they'd Laba missile in there but they didn't get any further out than attacking this. This huge like this is a hayward and this is just to me. I'm seeing these go on and on they don't like talking about but but if you look at the depression cycle which we are we should be in the middle of it always results in all these riots craziness going on around the world all at the same some time but we're not in a depression because of our motivational speaker president we we may be in a depression. We just don't know it because we're all we're all we're all is going on but these riots are are like the indicator to me that something's up and it's everywhere. Yes the Netherlands with the farmers the at and there was another one. I didn't count and yeah you're right. Well please bear in mind that the president is using the same phoney Baloney bullcrap stats. That have have been used. Well for as long as we've been doing this show when it comes to unemployment and all these numbers are bogus as bogus. We all all these homeless. I think are an indicator. Did you think we did have this with. I remember this with Bush and then with Obama we had the camps and then it kind of fell off the radar. Dr And this is because of what you're being fed by the mainstream which is the mainstream media is doing a job public very a large disservice and you have. We talked about the the pig swine flu. No we haven't heard I mean it's still ongoing China's in the end the least no none of it though we do we do here stairs you stories even like this from democracy. Now listen to this. This is the Weird World World Series News in sports news. Houston Astros fired. Assistant General Manager Brandon Taliban Thursday after he yelled at sports illustrated rated reporter Stephanie Epstein and two other female reporters quote thank. God we gotta sooner. I'm so glad we got a soon. He said abstain was is wearing a purple domestic violence awareness bracelet at the time of the incident. Meanwhile Major League Baseball is reviewing the status of Bob Drake one of its senior umpires. Just just ahead of game two of the world series Wednesday night Drake tweeted quote. We'll be buying an ar fifteen tomorrow because if you impeach my president this way in another civil war Maga- twenty twenty drake sense lead his twitter account and apologized. Oh my goodness how is this sports sports news. Well first of all go astros nice recovery. Yesterday nice second. It's in what I can be proud of our team. Geez it's not the Austin Astros it's from Texas we don't have Astros Stroz we got. We got nothing here. We Got Austin hand. I lost my train of thought but yeah how about this. We need our own bracelets brown the color of poop which is what you got L. Brown Br Brown poop bracelet. Forget MO- nation. I think that's the way to go. I leave on a high note with proposed legislation Elation for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and this would change section fifty three of chapter two seventy two of the general laws. ooh What. I'm just mumbling to myself. Do you WANNA shine reading from my list. Sorry does microphone is too sensitive actually heard me yawning from about five feet couple of shows that are going to irk me that you can hear it. How do you think I felt? Here's the new law and I I just wanted to know. This is where it's headed so Massachusetts Home Home of Liz Warren. This is a change in the law by the way before going to equipped you know. George Soros Today came out for Liz Warren really now yeah. Then she's the globalist dull nice. No it's not a clip is just. I'm just going to read this. Loti a person who uses the word bitch directed at another person to accost annoy degrade or demean. The other person shall be considered to be a disorderly person in violation of this section and shall be subject to the penalties provided in subsections a and B away a violation of this subsection may be reported by the person to whom the offensive language directed at or by any witness to such incident. Can you believe that. 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AP One Minute Headlines Oct 26 2018 10:00 (EDT)

AP Radio News

02:00 min | 2 years ago

AP One Minute Headlines Oct 26 2018 10:00 (EDT)

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What Did Obama Know About Operation Crossfire Hurricane?

Front Porch Politics

10:05 min | 1 year ago

What Did Obama Know About Operation Crossfire Hurricane?

"I mention the name Barack Hussein Obama most of you already had something in your mind that you think of. He is a former president of the United States. And to be honest with you adult feel. He had our country's best interest at heart. All that being said there is starting to be more and more evidence to show you how. Sketchy Barack Obama was podcast. One sixty seven is going to discuss operation crossfire hurricane. Which was the investigation or spy gate into General Michael? Flynn and I want to ask the question. What did Obama Know About and crossfire hurricane? Which spot on a political ravel something? They maliciously accused trump of doing that. They were doing themselves. Welcome to front porch politics conservative conversation for competent country and now your host the pontificate of common sense and coffee connoisseur. David Moore and thank you Dr Harrison for that introduction. I am David Morrissey pontificators common sense and your coffee connoisseur. Welcome you once again to front porch politics. Podcast so folks in the opening. I ask you what you thought about Obama and you already have your ideas and your mind but let me carry that just a step further because only give you another name general. Michael Flynn say general. Michael Flynn was absolutely screwed over by the system. He was threatened with bankrupting his son after he himself had already been bankrupted and he had been shamed in the media had tagged him as horrible evil person and a traitor to our country. People that were like Jim. Komi James Clapper. Peter Struck Bob Muller Susan Rice. All of these people came out and started saying that this Man General Michael Flynn who is a military career person. He's the WHO is colluding with Russians different media outlets even the speed pick this up and a joyless Bihar read. The story to her crowd clapped and cheered saying that Flynn was gonNA flip he confessed. That trump had colluded with the Russians and that they were going to all go down. Trump was going to be removed from office. Say They lost this party. Lost the two thousand sixteen elation and they can not get over it. They won't their ball. They WanNa go home and then they want to deflate the one that you have at your house. These are terrible criminal people. There is no way around it and former. President Barack Obama knew all about what was going on with. Michael Flynn he knew about the whole situation. And now this is going to be tagged as Obama. Gate even her one commentator this last week say this was President Obama's blue dress and that's a pretty good analogy because Obama's hands are all over what happened. To General Michael Flynn and with the illegal wiretapping. So you may say well. How do we know they illegally wiretapped will? That's a good point because the Justice Department is conducting this investigation. Now William Bar is now conducting the investigation so in a potentially related document acting director of National Intelligence. Richard Grenell has declassified a list of Obama administration officials involved in the illegal unmasking of General Michael Flynn's former conversations with former Russian ambassador. Sergei Kislyak see. It's been alleged that Obama told former. Fbi Director James Comey and deputy attorney. General Sally Yates of the intercepts of Flynn's conversations during a private Oval Office meeting in Obama's final days in office France. I'm telling you this ski. This was conniving this was crooked and it was criminal. There was no the way to look at it at the end of the day. They did not have a basis for Counter Intelligence Investigations Against Flynn at this stage or in his State of the trump administration and trump transition team. This investigation was all being conducted by the Obama Administration using the Logan Act. The Logan Act precludes American citizens from acting on behalf of the US government overseas but Flynn's contacts with a Russian diplomat came in the course of just actions amid the presidential transition team. So Flynn was doing was absolutely legal. And just to let you know about the Logan Act. It was written into law in the seventeen hundreds and has never been used in criminal prosecutions so outdated law. The Logan Act is exactly what Obama was you. They knew what they do. You remember not long ago win. Alexandria custody cortes all these mush brains socialist for saying that trump had violated some of the parts of our Constitution. The emoluments clause yes as executive officer. He was violating the moments closet. He was getting gifts from Russia. He was getting other countries. I mean give me a frigging break. This is where the most criminal people will be the first ones to point a finger at someone because they know what they're doing is criminal as I said earlier. Barack Obama's hands were all over. What happened in General Michael? Flynn here's White House. Knew the reason why they kept the narrative going so strong against trump is because they knew what they were guilty of is the situation of the guilty EST dog barks first and the media were more than happy to pick the story and to run with for four years. Now we've all heard how trump colluded with Russia how people in his administration were part of Russian athletes. How General Michael? Flynn was a spy. That's all you've heard even as of yesterday. Nbc News had to go back after chuck. Todd made an incorrect statement because he edited film and did not play the whole part of a quote from William Bar and they had apologize now. Of course they did it very very sneaky by just putting a post on twitter and that was all I believe. Now if let's just be honest. Facebook suppresses this podcast twitter definitely suppresses. This podcast there are times that the people out there who listen to this podcast. Follow this podcast. You'd never see my content. Trust Me France. We have tested this. With the many thousands of followers we have. We have had times when our post has only been seen by three or four people with all of those followers with all of those people. So there's no doubt that our conversations as conservatives is being suppressed but yet the media cross free speech so they can absolutely say anything. That is exactly what is going to take place here with Jim. Komi James Clapper because it's not illegal for them to go on TV and to say something. That's a lie. But when they all went behind closed doors including struck including clapper including COMI including rats. They all told the truth and they all admitted that there was zero evidence. There was zero reason to investigate. Michael Flynn and they all know this including Barack Obama. So what did Obama No? He knew the full details of this. And I know what you're thinking. Well he probably he's president. He has a lot of things going on. Obama knew everything that was going on in investigating general. Michael Flynn. Flynn had already made Obama mad because he would not laugh or him. Obama had asked to do so had asked him to say that he had destroyed the terrorists al Qaeda and that they were dating gone in. Flynn would not do so because he knew. There was a resurgence and hints. We have later on Assis. Thanks Obama for that. We really appreciate it. You wanted to lie to the American people and the media was happy to do so and if anybody criticized you will. They were a racist. And I'm sure I'll get tagged as one four saying this about him in the podcast friends. I don't care what skin color you are. It's a simple fact. That Obama was a terrible president. And he lad he manipulated. He covered up now. Something that we as a private citizens have understood. Politicians have done for years but yet usually we won't politicians held however with Barack Obama and his staff. They felt at the time and they knew that there would be no accountability for what they were doing. The reason why you should make us mad as private citizens is because they can do this to you and are we should demand. That these folks be held accountable. So I want to ask you to do something I want to ask you my fellow front porch commonsense deplorable Walmart shopping. People call your legislator. Call Your people demand. They be held accountable and owner. Remigia something while. We're talking about accountability. Do you remember when Adam Schiff would go on? Tv and he told us time and time again how there was overwhelming evidence trump had colluded. He had the evidence. There was smoking gun. All of you know this will guess what Adam Schiff Lad Tom. And here's the difference because he is a member of Congress. He cannot be held accountable. He has immunity. So you tell me what you think. What did Obama know about the whole Russia investigation and what happened to Michael? Flynn 'cause I'm telling you folks at the end of the day. I think Obama you the whole time. Hey be sure to check out our new and refresh website at David. Marr Dot com also. Check US out at podcast. David Wash Dot Com and subscribe as always our friends. My God bless shoe. My God bless America and we will see real saying. Thank you for listening for free. Resources Additional podcasts into join the front porch newsletter. Please Visit David. L. MARKS DOT COM.

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Distorted Reality; Facebook's Reply; Ratcheting Up Pressure; Terrorist Released

Anderson Cooper 360

43:53 min | 2 years ago

Distorted Reality; Facebook's Reply; Ratcheting Up Pressure; Terrorist Released

"The mother report hasn't rescued us in it seems like a pipe dream. The only way we can save the country from Donald Trump now is at the ballot box. The primary ride home is a new podcast devoted to finding out who the candidate is that can do it. The primary red home is a daily podcast wrapping every day at five pm. With the latest news from the primary campaign trail, who's up who's down, which issues are gaining traction. The podcast is only fifteen to twenty minutes long. So it's the perfect way to catch up on what you missed on your commute home. Search your podcast app now and subscribe to the primary ride home. This Jimmy Butler see himself as a belief to saquon Barkley Zinke, can be the greatest running back of all time. Well on my new show, take it there with Taylor rooks. I'll get all those answers from your favorite athletes. Tune in be our app for new episodes every week. Good evening. If he thought this week, couldn't get any more unusual than it was say on Wednesday or on Thursday. Well, it has today, the president United States, re tweeted heavily edited video of Nancy Pelosi designed to show her stuttering and seemingly incoherent. It is deceptively edited, but another video which is actually full on manipulated slow down to make Pelosi appear, not just coherent, but perhaps ill or drunk, this fake video has been put on social media and seen by millions. We're not gonna show either of the videos to you because we want to amplify something. That's false. President doesn't seem to mind doing it. But we do the is TV lawyer Rudy Giuliani was happy to as well. But then took the video he tweeted down, then tweeted a mangled explanation, and I'm quoting now or at least I'm trying to I've its policy for video, which is allegedly is a caricature of an otherwise halting speech pattern. She should I stop and apologize for saying the president needs an intervention are if you are trying to make out. Your opponent, as drunk or incoherent? Probably not great to send out an actually coherent tween. You also included a visual aid on a show you there. The photograph included with the tweet some basketball players throwing their hands in the air. Not sure why more and Mr. Giuliani shortly as for the president himself. Here's what he said on the way to Japan. And. Well, I don't know about the videos, I can tell you that what I'm here is to help the country. That's why I did this. I don't know about the video she said, then quickly changed the subject now keeping him on his his own tweet does say, otherwise quote Pelosi stammers through news conference at reads in all caps and right. Blow it is the heavily edited video. So you're going to believe the president United States or the tweet from the official count of the president of the United States. As for the continued attacks on Pelosi the president's putting the blame on Pelosi. Your first attack favor. Lawfully history. This is shows how fake you and the news are when you say what you say, personal attack. Did you hear what she said about me long before I went after her did you hear she horrible statement? She knows they're not drew. She made she said terrible things. So I just responded in kind look, you think Nancy's, the same as she was. He's not. Maybe we can all say that, that's their verbal tic. Again, the president has a long history of it saying something that's at best arguable or not true. And then suggesting that the people who he's saying to all agree with him. Maybe we can all say that he says, after suggesting the woman second line of succession to him, is losing it. Maybe that's the point. Maybe the point is suggesting that his political opponents aren't quite mentally competent. Keep him honest. If you don't think this could be a campaign strategy in twenty twenty all you have to do is remember what happened in two thousand sixteen when Hillary Clinton had a health scare. Fails to point out several signs of illness by her. We gotta do is go online. Wait her campaign people defending her saying there, there's nothing factual to the claims about her health and that, that relation at best. So go online and put down Hillary Clinton illness, take a look at the videos for yourself. No speculation on the internet, Rudy Giuliani then sounding a lot like would be Giuliani now here talk about twenty sixteen Trump campaign strategist David urban, and former South Carolina state Representative the car sellers. David, I guess the obvious question is, is it appropriate for the person the United States and his attorney to be sharing, you know, videos that are either deceptively, edited or just outright false? So anderson. Look, I don't think anybody should be sharing videos that are deceptively edited, clearly I mean, it's look, I it's, it's, it's not a good look for, for the president to take poke it. Nancy Pelosi after he took a poke at her after she took a poke at him. I think as you stated earlier know he's a counterpuncher that's what he does. But look, you know, putting forth further false things on the internet. Not good. I don't get what the person said he didn't know about it. Is that to me, it could just be like a speech pattern of like, oh, I don't know about it. He's brush it off. He doesn't want to talk about it, but he clearly knows about. I don't think the president purposely put out somebody said to him. Hey, look this videos, but edited to make her look bad. Please put it out. I don't think that's the case because how do you view this? I mean, is this a new low for political discourse? Is it just politics as usual is this, escalating feud gone? Too far. Well, I think it's we're not at the Nater I think I don't ever want to say it can't get any worse with President Trump because then next week it always gets worse with President Trump. I mean, I remember a time when we were talking about Barack Obama's decorum in the White House, and that was because he liked Dijon mustard and war tan suit. I mean, the, the disrespect that Donald Trump shows for the presidency is not anything new, but Nancy Pelosi is now you know, I mean she's she's she's playing into this as well. I mean saying the president needs an intervention. Well I mean I, I think that what Nancy Pelosi is going off of is what many people say, is that the president behaves in a manner in which draw some concern on the car. The what I mean I'm not. I come home car. What I mean you have someone you have a car. Style and he'll Cari reading. She's sitting someone. No. You have someone who acts like a pitch Lynch out through its input on. And I think that what we see I think that what we see is that Nancy Pelosi legislatively institute, or smart guy, but gets the upper gets the upper hand gets the upper hand on Donald Trump. And he has a problem when people get the upper hand on him, especially women. And that's what we're seeing him lashing out. It gave it a car car. Just say Nancy Pelosi shouldn't have said it either to say it, it's okay, it's okay Bacar. You'll feel better. I don't I don't believe that. I mean, I honestly think do you believe? No, no, no. Yes. I honestly believed that the friends of the president of the United States, if he has any, the friends and family of the president of the United States, I think they'll vigils who are close to him, that Lindsey Graham, the Bill bars, the that those individuals car inhaling, who are enabling his behavior needs to have a conversation about someone who tweets repeatedly manically all throughout the day, who has not focused on the task at hand, and then, and who is who is destroying the respectability of the presidency of the United States. Now is that a is that a legitimate adventure? Maybe not I call I come on and say, hey, listen, that's wrong for the president do. But Bacar you the Democrats can't come on and say anti Pelosi should have done. That's bit too far. I don't know. I don't know why David, you are one of the few folks who will come on and actually say that it just your credit. I just I just want to point that out. But but I mean. Because you don't buy that Nancy Pelosi has been, you know knows she's under his skin knows how to clearly get under his skin. And is, you know, an is doing that. No. But I mean we're giving out props for individuals who say the president is wrong for sharing deceptively, edited videos. I mean how low is the bar here. I mean, thank you for showing up, David. I mean, the point is that the pro has taken the discard the president is taking the discourse democrat. The president has shaped in the discourse of this country, so low that it's no comparison. And what I will not allow anyone to do is do the false equivalency between Donald Trump and his lack of respect if we're institutions and people in this country, Nancy Pelosi car. Those are not the same thing. David David has the prison Anderson. Okay Anderson, you know, set it on this show, and I said, others, I prefer to see the president do like he didn't speak like he did in Pennsylvania on Monday night, where he talked about the strong economy, the incredible numbers unemployment African American unemployment is Spanish unemployment real wage growth, all going up under administration. I think that's what he's best. I think that's what he should talk about for the next sixteen months every day. Yeah. Well, but David, you know he had the event with former is yesterday. The headline could have been, you know, sixteen. Million billion dollars going to farmers former relief. And instead, he veers off into getting his subordinates to testify to his stability. Anderson, look, again, I if I was if I was king, he talk about all the good things that are happening right now in the economy across America forever individual in America. That's what I'd be. That's what I'd be talking about every day from eight AM six PM, reminding them are you better off now. You were four years ago, the inch is going to be a resounding. Yes. David urban because sellers. Thanks very much freesheet it coming up next, the reply from Facebook. I'll talk to a Representative from Facebook. Why being falls factually false isn't enough to get a video taken down from Facebook because the video the totally manipulated one slow down altered that is still up on Facebook being viewed by millions later. The president's new order the latest move in his crusade to investigate the Russian investigators. The question is could jeopardize agents and assets right now in the field as former director of national television's, James Clapper. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five you can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home eggs, any dot com with the latest trends in eyewear available and hundreds of frame, styles and materials. There isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus, is any offers prescription sunglasses at incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash ready. That's Z. E N N. I dot com slash ready. We mentioned before the break the president's day, retweeted, misleadingly edited video of Nancy Pelosi edited to highlight exaggerate stuttering, another fake video is also circling circulating online. It's been slowed down to make Pelosi peer, incoherent ill, perhaps, drunk, the video is fake. It's manipulated numerous audio and video experts. In fact, checking organizations have confirmed that, but that video in particular has been viewed by millions of people on Facebook. And in fact, it's still up on Facebook, even though Facebook knows it's fake. They've added comments from independent fact, checkers to inform people who watch it and have made it less, prominent, but it is still up there now YouTube took it down. But it's still up on Twitter. They're not even commenting about it. Facebook, however, was good enough to provide us with a spokesperson, she's Monica bicker. The company's vice president for global policy management, I spoke to her just a short time ago. Simone in the wake of the two thousand sixteen election. Obviously Facebook has repeatedly told congress the American people that you're serious about fighting disinflation fake news, yet, this doctorate video that I think your own fact, checkers acknowledges doctored of speaker Pelosi remains on your platform. Why? Well, first off, I think the suggestion there is that we haven't taken action, and that's not right. We have acted anybody who is seeing this video in news feed, anyone who is going to share it to somebody else, anybody who has shared it in the past there being alerted that this video is false. And this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation. We work with internationally certified fact, checking organizations that are independent from Facebook. And we think these are the right organizations to be making decisions about whether something is true or false. And as soon as we get, and we did in this case as soon as we get a rating from them that content is false. Then we dramatically reduced the distribution of that content, and we let people know false, so they can make an informed choice. What why did? Yeah. We think it's important for people to make their own informed choice about what to believe. Our job is to make sure that we are getting them accurate information. And that's why we work with more than fifty fact checking organizations around the world. If there were misinformation that was, let's say tied to an ongoing riots or the threat of some physical violence somewhere in the world. We would work with safety organizations on the ground to confirm falsity and the link to violence. And then we actually would remove that misinformation. So most information about the beer doesn't promote violence, but misinformation that portrays, the third most powerful politician in the country as a drunk or somehow impaired. That's fine. No, what's important to us as making sure that people have the accurate information to make their own choices, not acting look right now at the we are telling people that this is false. You're not putting video or powerful, then your grad, but the video was powerful more powerful than whatever you're putting under the video. Well, actually what we're seeing is that the conversation on Facebook on Twitter offline as well is about this video having been manipulated. I mean as evidenced by, you know, my parents today, this is the conversation that conversation is not about people believing this video, it's that they are discussing the fact that it was manipulated. And that's the conversation that people should be having you have no problem, removing three point three nine billion fake Facebook accounts from October through March. So why is it okay for you to remove fake Facebook accounts, but it's not okay to remove any clearly fake video. Because we're focused when we look at our community standards. Those are about keeping the community safe. Our fifth. Yeah. Gate, fake accounts. We do see that fake accounts, engage in safety violations. More than accounts that are real for three nine million accounting violence. I mean, fundamental. No, somebody said it's a fundamental rule when you come to Facebook, you have to use your real identity. That's always been our rule. And we do see that accounts that are fake are engaged in a safety violations more than authentic accounts. And by the way in this, this is probably not shocking, fake accounts are also more likely to distribute, misinformation, or fake news. And so part of our effort to combat misinformation, it's not just about working with third party fact checkers, when we remove fake accounts. We are also reducing the chance that these accounts would be sharing misinformation, and I would point out that this is working if you have the scale though, to be able to remove over the course of six months, three point three nine billion fake accounts, and you have the scale to remove I think. Eighty that six month period, eighty three percent of accounts that or comments that were selling drugs, or doing something illegal or promoting something illegal. You certainly have the scale to decide something that, that, you know is clearly fig. It's not even a question. I guess I still just don't logically understand. I understand. It's a it's a big business to get into of trying to figure out what's true or not. But you're making money by being in the news business. If you can't do it. Well, she just get out of the news business. Look, I reject the notion that we're not doing a lot to counter misinformation say you're not doing it a lot. I'm just saying if you are, you are in this particular case, spreading, and allowing the spread of a clearly Fulst, Dr video. Again, you're in the news business. There's a responsibility that comes with that. And this is this isn't even a question. We are in the news business. We are in the social media business or your face to share the reason you're sharing news is because you make money from it. It keeps people watching you and more involved in your site, which I get and that's fair. But if you're in the news business, which you, are, you gotta do it. Right. And this is false information your spreading. We have a site where people can come and share what they think what's important to them, the news that they find relevant. And when they do that we want to make sure that they have access to accurate information if there's a threat of safety, if we're talking about terror propaganda, that's something where we can actually assess that on its face and say, yes, this is terr- propaganda, and we can pull it down when you're talking about political discourse property political to safety. Misinformation, that's related to safety. We can. And we do remove it, and we work with safety groups to do that. But when we're talking about political discourse, and misinformation around that we think the right approach is to let people make an informed choice. So somebody makes a video of President Trump and slows it down and makes it seem like he's drunk, which he's never had a drink in his life. That's okay with you. If that, if that video is on. And it makes people believe that the commander in chief is impaired with alcohol, that's okay on Facebook. No. Again, I want to be really clear here because the suggestion here is that we're not acting. Would you take that down? Would you take down that video of the president United States that's been slowed down, and manipulated by Russia say to make it look like he's drunk and impaired, we live and move content that's created by fake accounts. We would remove misinformation that's created by fake accounts. We would also remove misinformation if it is related to threat of safety on the grounds when it comes to a Russian mission. We work with the fact checking networks, and then we put that information proactively in front of people so they can make their own decisions. If it's a real person, not a fake account, which I know you're considering a fake accounts because that gets the legitimacy of Facebook, but if it's actually just a real account, but it's somebody just doing that. They're not doing even to make money. They're just putting it out there. There. That, that video would stay up on Facebook. We're we have rolled out over the past few years, all sorts of products and tools to allow people to have more transparency. And you can't say yes or no? Not. Because it, it really the answer is, if there is something that is being shared by somebody who isn't enough that to actor we would remove it, if it is tied to balance on the ground, we would remove it. And there's a whole lot of other things. Hold on. There's a whole lot of other things that we're doing to make sure that we are not remotely and the same place where we were in two thousand sixteen. I appreciate you being on. We care a lot about getting this, right? And we're happy to we're happy to share what we're doing Monica bigger. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you. A quick note the interview was edited for time when about twelve minutes. We're pushing the entire conversation online at a C three sixty dot com coming up, and we presented them coming on. 'cause Twitter doesn't even comment about them. Keeping up the video coming up next. The president's new order giving the attorney general broad powers to make public classified information from intelligence agencies about the rush investigation. The question is, is it really because the president says the public needs to know what are the possible risk to human life? We'll keep them honest tonight with former director of national intelligence ahead. The cases we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer this science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical, which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama. But where was the rifle and which man was telling the truth for renchik files, the legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes, every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. Keeping them, honest night, a question which will the world gets to see I President Trump's tax returns or closely guarded information that might jeopardize American intelligence agents, and assets around the world, including perhaps inside the Kremlin. Now despite how it sounds it's neither a loaded question. Or Joe last night, the president gave attorney general bar sweeping powers to declassify any intelligence related to the beginning of the rush investigation, including FBI surveillance of his campaign. He signed the order, just hours after accusing the former top investigators of treason. If you look at Komi if you look at McCabe if you look at probably people people higher than that, if you look at struck if you look at his lover, Lisa page is wonderful lover, the two lovers. They talked openly. You know they didn't use their private server because they didn't want to get caught. So they use the government server, that was not a good move. He talked about the insurance policy just in case crooked Hillary loses, and that didn't work out too well for them. So you look at them they want an insurance policy, so that should she for any reason, loose remember, one hundred million to one maybe said, one hundred million to nothing but should she lose we'll have an insurance policy, and we'll get this guy out of office? And that's what they said. And that's what they meant. That's treason, treason. Let's anti-gay by the way, after being reminded by reported that treason is can be punishable by death. And today is former and current intelligence officials are professionals alike, raise questions about the wisdom of it all, and with the president's words on treason, still fresh president was asked him tough questions about his motivations. Let me just tell you it just payback. I don't care about bay back. I think it's very important for our country to find out what happened, but he also said he was doing this in the name of transparency, which to his critics as kind of ridged given his unwillingness to into Robert Muller's questions in person, or telling former White House counsel, Don Mcgann to defy how subpoena or fighting, one court subpoena after another to keep the financial entanglements out of the public eye or paying silence stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal given all that. Is it any surprise that reporters might ask the question the president whether his latest move is more about himself than the country this time mistakes couldn't be higher today? The director of national intelligence issued a rare statement, reading in part, I'm confident that the attorney general will work with the intelligence community in accordance with the long established standards to protect highly sensitive classified information that if publicly released would put our national security at risk keeping him on this is the same attorney general is now being accused of cherry picking the up. The report in his summary of it doing it away, the put serving his boss above tone, the truth. Now. The question now, would he do the same this time selectively declassifying items to please the president? His defenders say absolutely not again. It's not an academic question, given the agents, who could potentially be blown even accidentally, or incidentally in the process of declassified ING, what after all is very recent very sensitive stuff. Some of it from very highly placed individuals quoting from the New York Times. Now, the most prominent of those sources among the may, well, be a person close to President Vladimir Putin of Russia, who provided information to the about his involvement in Moscow's, two thousand sixteen election interference, one of the former intelligence chief squirrel in the middle of all this courses, retired Lieutenant General James Clapper, director of national intelligence during the two thousand sixteen presidential election campaign. He's also the author of facts and fears hard truths from a life in intelligence. Glad to have him on the program director Clapper, given how twenty journal bar represented or misrepresented the mole. The report is there any doubt in your mind that whatever he decided to do. It would be a cherry picked investigation that serves the president's interest, or do you think it would be above board. Well, I would hope it would be the latter, although I don't have a base on history. Those forum, not real confident that to me Anderson, the bigger issue here, which I'm unclear of is on is, what exactly is the scope of this declassification authority if it in fact means the entire Russia investigation. Meaning the intelligence work done on the interference which goes back years. Or is it more? More narrowly focused on the origins of the counterintelligence investigation. And from the media reporting is not clear which, which it is, if you listen to president kind of all over the map on this on one hand, he says it's everything classify millions of documents which implies the broader scope and then in, in the segment you just showed it, it seems to be more limited to the origins of the counterintelligence investigation, which is much more narrow. So it'd be very useful for me. At least, and I think others, particularly the community to know what is the scope of this, but they're quite right about the potential for cherry picking the bigger issue. Of course, is potential, as you looted potential, compromise of some very sensitive sources, and methods and that ramp. Oh, yeah. And the impact is real in terms of potentially people's lives, being at brisk and then not answer, Larry effects, like what do are both allies? Think about it. And how how confident are they going to be sharing intelligence with us when they see potentially intelligence being used as a weapon political weapon? And of course, adversaries are happy about it, because they go to school on this so-called transparency. And then, think about assets, congressman Jim Hines from the house intelligence committee was on earlier today, and he made a very good point about, you know, our great people men and women out there in the field, trying to recruit people. Well, how much confidence are re potential recruits intelligence recruits going to have when they see this sort of thing happening, when we tell them, hey you can trust us. We'll protect you really are. You're talking about a four national working for a foreign government, or whomever, who might be recruited by the CIA or intelligence agency, that they're going to be less willing to or potential less willing to because they're afraid well down the road. My name could revealed exactly do take Hort, by the way. I think it was really, really gratified really pleased to see director National Children's Dan, Coats statement, which I thought was very. A balanced tempered. Yeah, we'll cooperate. But we, we need to we need to protect some things here, and I'm really glad he made that statement. Do you think he was sending a message to bar, or, or message intelligence community, to try to allay concerns? I think both. The it's rare for him to. I mean, that's not a kind of a statement you hear very often from somebody like an well, this is. No, it's not. I mean he's very selective when he makes public statements and when they want as a consequence when he does make Bubby. So even they counter something, what happens if, if bar request certain things to be declassified, but codes things it's inappropriate to do. So I mean has there been a situation like that before to your knowledge? Done that I can think of off taught my head. No. I mean we're, you know this this whole situation here. We're in uncharted waters. And so I don't know how that'll be arbitrated. Obviously, there's the senior classification thorny in this country is the president. I states. So I guess if it came to a dispute between the two and I think I could predict it'd be resolved. Just lastly you were clearly in the president's mind today was he was flying to Japan on Air Force One. He actually tweeted out a cartoon of you and former director, John, Brennan, and former FBI director James Comey. I'm wondering what you make of it, other your actual physical portrayal or just the fact that the prison United States on his way to an important self in Japan is tweeting out cartoons. Well, first of all, I thought that, that cartoon likeness is we're in bed. Brought on who the Lawrence was pretty good. You know, not sure what this is a losing to there's been some discussion in some parts of the media about. A discussion about whether or not to include the dossier, or draw on the dossier as source sourcing for the intelligence community Sussman that we did in January twenty seventeen. The important point here is it was not included as a source in the intelligence community Sussman. So if there was John and Jim speak from selves. I wasn't aware of a debate or dispute between them, but I think the important point is how it all came out and the dossier was not included jail. Clapper appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Coming up. I'll talk with the father of Johnny Mike Spann the officer killed in the first week of the Afghan war killed in an uprising of Taliban and L Qaeda prisoners. The man spin Teradata just before his death was John Walker Lynn, the American who had joined up with to fight alongside the Taliban Afghanistan Lynn was freed, as you probably know early from prison. In a moment, you'll hear what my father thinks of that. Remember to create an ad like this one, visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. John walker. Lynn, the American captured in Afghanistan who joined up with Qaeda to fight alongside. The Taliban is a free man. Tonight is lawyer says he'll live in Virginia under supervised probation. He spent seventeen years in prison because he pled guilty to ten counts, including conspiracy to murder Americans, as well as fighting alongside the Taliban, it originally been sentenced to twenty years, but was released early for good behavior released, despite the fact that from prison, he praised ISIS in a letter to a producer of the NBC news affiliate in Los Angeles. Seeing thought ISIS was doing quote a spectacular job, unquote. Lynn was often called the American Taliban though, he actually wasn't part of the Taliban he joined up with Al Qaeda to fight alongside the Taliban. He was captured and imprisoned Afghantistan interviewed by thirty two year old officer named Johnny Micheal Spann shortly after the interview, the prisoners rioted and span was killed Lynn initially apologize for his radicalization. But later, according to the bureau of prisons, in addition, appraising, ISIS, he said he wasn't interested at all in. Renouncing his beliefs. Joining me now is my expense. Father, Johnny spinsters, man. Thank you so much for being with us. When you got the news, I'm wondering how you got the news. And I can't imagine what went through your mind. Moustache from the way. I got the news was a news reporter, someone in the news media called me and asked me if I knew about it, that it was going to be he's going to be getting a released on the twenty third, and that's how found out you weren't told by prison. Officials. So you were not told by any prison officials or government officials. No, sir was not. I think. Our family was never considered. To be a victim of any of that. I think I had to actually file a documented courthouse. Back just just back when he was getting sentenced just to be able to speak at his sentencing hearing, fitness and. Quite a time there that didn't know mid speaker, not. When you the fact I mean he was sentenced to twenty years. I know you feel that he should've gotten life in prison. He's according to prison officials get got out for good behavior. When I read that he had actually written to a producer in Los Angeles, supporting ISIS in the last couple of years, I found that really interesting because sort of the message we'd heard from some of his supporters people fail to you. He had been imprisoned for too long was that he had renounced those beliefs. Okay. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear the last hour. It doesn't seem like he has renounced his beliefs at all. Well, you know, Cooper, according to all the reports that I'm reading the things that I've read from the national counterterrorism. Center and the foreign policy magazine. And then, of course the documents you're talking about now. And then I'm here in the other officials there inside the prison said and they were very concerned with his Jihadist ways and his radical Islamic of us. So it doesn't appear to us that he was as matter of fact when I went to the courthouse last Monday to follow a document asking the course asking the Justice system to do an in depth, thorough investigation of those things to see if they were true or not. Because if they were true to me in our way of thanking read that plea agreement three or four times. And those things would actually re that with big, but he'd be breaking his plea agreement. He wouldn't be living up to it. And so I wanted them to hold off and not let him out. But you know that wasn't I guess I got started too late on that because. Understand the president says that he could not stop it, and Senator Shelby in con- congressman Aderholt, and some other ones said that they weren't able to do that also had if that, yes, I'm very concerned if Lynn had actually served his full sentence of twenty years, would you feel differently? Is it the fact that he got out three years early, or just just in general, the fact that he didn't get a life sentence? No, you know my family's law about it. And people might was a patriot to this company to this to the United States. My loved America, and he proved it by his actions. And we, we accepted the twenty year sentence. I didn't like it. I didn't agree with it, but it was handed down through the courts and through the system. So we agreed with, and if today had yesterday had been his last day of his twenty year sentence, and there was no indications that he had not been a model prisoner that he had not been. Renouncing his Jihadist ways and his radical Islamic ways. I would be saying good. You've done your sentence. You know, I hope you've reformed yourself. I hope we've reformed you and let you out. But, you know, one of the things that I've said about this Cooper, we send people to prison to reform them. But in this instance, here if you go back and look at the lawsuits that he is involved in once he got into prison once he was admitted to the prison. He reformed the prison system. We changed our rouce to fit what he wanted and that's not right. Mr. Fane, your son, served six years, I believe in the in the Marine Corps. He was in college. He went to officer candidate school joined the marines and then joined the. La and and died in the line of duty the first American combat American killed in combat in the war in Afghanistan. I appreciate you being on and, and talking about your feelings in this moment, and I'm sorry for the pain. Your family continues to feel and especially now in the wake of his release Cooper. Yeah. Do I have time to? I'd let all the Americans that's listen to this night to think about one thing if American people followed and John Walker Lindh's footsteps. Would we be free would America be free? Would you be free? Was your kids be free? Fair by the think about that. Because my expand was a patriot and he showed it by his actions. This guy was a traitor, and he showed it by his actions. Mr span. Appreciate it again. I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you. Thank you, in, in a moment and update on the disaster relief Bill that was supposed to pass the house today of details ahead. The right sheets can take your sleep, and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. 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President Trump said he would sign the Bill even without the border funding. Bring in Chris Cuomo, of course. I know you're covering the story on your show as well. I yeah, I don't know that Pelosi has this one, right? I think that not having the border. Why do I say that? So we had on a democrat, Senator. I hear the democrat whip. They're in the minority. And what Durbin said was, hey, I gotta tell you. I think we're going to get something done on the border. You've been chasing that issue we've been chasing that issue. He says this relief Bill, we can put it with it. And I said, do you really wanna put it on the relief Bill? It isn't going to get caught up and all those other politics. He goes, I think it's a good idea. I think it's going to happen, then it didn't happen. They sent it as a clean, Bill. Roy says I don't like it. I don't disagree with them Anderson. I just got reporting for men and women on the ground with knowledge of the information right now. They are holding a DHS with custom borders patrol more kids tender age zero to twelve than they've ever had before they have two hundred and fifty kids. They've had over seventy two hours that kid who just died of the flu. This is when it happens. They are in a panic. They have been desperately trying to get h h s to pick up the kids. They have to control the kids. See BP can't release them on their own recognizance could with adults. This is how kids die kids are going to die. That's not a dire thing we don't want that to happen. They're coming to me in a panic while chip ROY wasn't wrong to say they should have done something about the border? Whether this was the right way to hold this up or not. I don't know. That's where the politicians. But I can't believe they will get off their asses and do something about these kids. They're going to die. And then they're going to watch him blame each other, and it's going to be a shame more in that on your show. 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I still got a lot of work to do on myself and someone said to me the other day I was reading the book and, you know, I'm gonna go back into psychotherapy. And that was one of the big pushes and writing the book. I wanted to say, hey, especially some of the guys in my audience at stuff's all nonsense. I'm not talking to someone. I wanted to say really had an impact on my life. I wanted to be very genuine about it. It really I mean most people do not change after a certain age. That's right. You have changed. I have, and I think it's possible for anybody to do it. And really, what are we looking forward? Just looking to have better relationships with people, and be a little more content with our lives. I don't know what do I know? Anderson in this stand. I wish my name was Anderson. Can you imagine? If I was an Anderson wouldn't fit this face. Right. Gotta look like you to the end. Well, I don't even know what that means. You're an Andersen. Did you know that interesting is very popular? First name in Brazil, there's a really. Yeah. I don't know why I think the name Howard is on the on the list of popular names. I think it actually just broke into I think it's nine hundred ninety nine it is. I might buy resin one day. Harvey, really my life even more difficult. Well, this is, you know, that would have been shonda. Yeah. My mother was not good at picking names. She wanted to name, my sister, my sister's name is Ellen. She wanted to name her fern, so she burned stern. My mother goes the phone is a beautiful name and my father actually stepped in and went oh you close. You know, you can't be. So I am not I'm Howard and I'm thankful for that stern life would be I would have gotten beaten up twenty times more. If I've been Harvey. His great person to talk to. You can see a lot more ten PM eastern for the full hour. Howard Stern right now. It's handover Chris for Cuomo primetime. Chris.

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"Hey really for a hacker story. I don't have one for you today. This is not a hacker story. It's not even a tech story thing is when I make this podcast. I'm diving down a million different rabbit holes completely unsure where they go in this episode is just me going down different rabbit holes and you can come along to if you want but I have to warn you this whole episode. I go into areas of knowledge. I I literally no nothing about so. I'm certain than ignorant to a lot of stuff and I probably get some stuff wrong along the way. I tried to double check everything that I'm saying against multiple sources but still. I'm not in my lane on this one so don't take my word for it here and so even though this isn't quite a tech focused hacker story that you might be used to. This is a story about how the US military hacks people's hearts and brains. These are true stories from the dark side of the Internet. I'm Jack reciter. This is dark net. Diaries support for this. 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Doc Net to get your free fourteen day trial sue. The other day I went to Lincoln. See what's up and there's this guy that tried to connect with me. There was just call him Henry. Even that's not his name. I looked to see what Henry does. An it. Says he's doing sioe up in the military. Ps Y. O. P. stands for psychological operations. That's a term. I'd never heard before but I was immediately interested in learning more SII UP. First of all why is a cya person following me on linked in second what the heck is Scwhab so chatted him up to find out and it turns out is just a big fan of the show and that's why he followed me but I still really curious about everything related to sign up so we started talking about it. Turns out Henry here was in the army but is now a reservist I did indulgence support and currently. I'm in psychological operation. Okay so what is psychological operations. Psychological operations is skill set which which is used to persuade chain and influence behavior of target to persuade. Change an influence behavior of a target audience to persuade change and influence the behavior of target audience. Oh that could be With your adversary or with your friendly population The the the main thing that is not do is by up up up on the American public okay. This is a lot to take in already. You're telling me that there's a unit in the army that's sole mission is to get the adversary to change their their behavior. Or why would why would? Why would we need people to do this? How do you become a battlefield? Modifier without using weapons operation. So there's different different. Here's the authors as communication. There is a multimedia broadcasting. There's leaflet drops. There's Adams Gary. Means that are non lethal to get people to make a decision Because some people are in many cases way of defeating an enemy is by having the the friendly population shifted perspective. Or be empowered by this this type of of of encouragement. Everybody when you're talking to someone you could say well you need. You need to go. Two point eight can go two point eight to point B. Or you know getting a linear answer or you. Can you can move around it. So everybody has to be communicated differently. When I'm getting at is the most important thing is understanding. If you understand your target audience you can better persuade changing influence. Their behavior which favorable for The the United States and own wooded are are empty intended right so hold on. Let me do some research on this. Okay I'm pulling up some documents about Siab's now and yeah. It does seem like the army. Is Conducting CY OPS missions Yeah the battlefield seems to have changed from what I thought it was. There's two kinds of ways to fight a war. There's the kinetic way Non Connecticut. Connecticut is basically physical combat like hitting an enemy with some like shooting bullets or launching bombs. That's kinetic but then there's the non kinetic teams are also part of the battle in. Here's just a few of those teams. There's the COM- CAM team. These people have connections to satellite imagery or even access to cameras on board spy-planes aerial photographs and videos to the commanders. They literally are the eyes in the sky and by the way the US military has tons of satellites pointed all over Earth so within like a minute or two they can get a fresh new image of pretty much any part of the planet with a pretty good level of detail even if clouds are covering okay so then there's electronic warfare teams these attacks that either us or target electronic equipment to carry out objectives. So they might have radar jamming tool or the ability to take out cameras remotely and Geez. It looks like they can even send magnetic waves to disrupt and degrade facilities and other equipment to and these electric warfare. Weapons can be mounted two vehicles like Humvees or tanks but there are also commonly seen on planes. And there's a lot you can do with the right equipment on a plane flying over your enemy. Here's an example. There's a stingray device that the government uses sometimes. This is a way to beacon down like a cellphone signals. All phones under the plane and then all those phones will beacon back from that you can identify the exact location of the enemy cell. Phone that you're trying to track in real time all completely invisible without anyone knowing. This attack is actually happening. You probably wouldn't even see the plane if it's overhead in the clouds. Electronic warfare is exciting. And I'll have to dig into that more and other time but what I'm seeing here is that there's some serious multi domain opperations going on and it's not just infantry troops. Also obviously their cyber operations to all combined against the army. A massive upperhand on its adversary. Okay so as I'm getting deeper into. This whole PSI ops thing. I'm finding more people to talk to you about this. And I found this guy named Jonathan Nichols who claims to have conducted numerous I op majority in. The past is willing to talk about it though. A jackets front good to hear from you could hear me to get together. But he rea- I wanted to know how John got started in all this and it turns out. His mom was a computer hacker. It's she was. She was hacking. Isp's white hat style. And that was how she paid her way through Grad School and also introduced me to the world's started out very young. My mother was forced to build my first website at age. And it's still a mind somewhere. Once he finished high school he thought about the army but at the same time he really wanted to be a lawyer so he asked the army recruiter about being a lawyer in the army. The recruiter said there were no slots open for apparently go and suggested without any knowledge. I had no idea what it was suggested. I go into a psychological operations. This should meet the quick video persuade. Change influence that is the motto of the. Us Army psychological operations. Regiment military operations do not always require people force. A battlefield military information support operations can employ nonlethal actions and messages to attain military objectives training in persuasive techniques. Scwhab soldiers use their skills to change attitudes behaviors values beliefs and influence foreign audiences to executing actions in the delivery of messages utilizing a variety of techniques. This was all the motivation he needed. He signed up for the army and went through boot camp and then went straight into so the very first position. Psi OPS specialist that is the the lowest personnel tactical up team fan? But I get an for for war. Be Honest that point so I picked up the job as a contractor. The company was called Lincoln Group. Wait a minute Lincoln Group. That does sound familiar. Let me let me put this up here. I'll just play this clip for you. This is democracy now democracy now dot. Org I mean Goodman here with one Gonzales last November the Los Angeles Times. I revealed that the US military was secretly planting stories in the Iraqi press articles written by us. Military information operations are translated into Arabic and then placed in Iraqi newspapers with the help of Washington based defense contractor the Lincoln Group. The articles are presented to an Iraqi audience as unbiased news accounts written by independent journalists. The Lincoln groups contract is worth up to one hundred million dollars over five years in February. Rumsfeld gave a major address on the warfare at the council on Foreign Relations in it Rumsfeld criticized the media's coverage of the Iraq war and defended the military practice of planting stories in Iraq for example the US military command working closely with the Iraqi government and the US embassy has sought nontraditional means to provide accurate information to the Iraqi people in the face of aggressive campaign of disinformation yet. This has been portrayed as inappropriate for example the allegations of someone in the military hiring a contractor and the contractor allegedly paying someone to print a story a true story but paying to print a story when the secret propaganda program was first revealed. Even the White House admitted it was quote very concerned about the practice but earlier this month. The top Pentagon brass insisted. It'll go on General George. Casey said an internal review of the program head quote found that we were operating within our authorities and responsibilities. Pentagon officials told The New York Times this week. The Lincoln Group remains under contract and will continue its activities unless the military revises its policies. Well okay the Lincoln Group didn't get in any actual trouble over this and the government contracts remained but they did end up changing their name after that just like how. Blackwater became Z. And then became academy. Lincoln group changed their name to full crop one and then strategic social and now it looks like they've just been bought by academy well. This is really hard to keep straight. And there's so many rabbit holes but John went to work for the Lincoln Group so that was as the chief kind of propaganda guy for United States forces. Well done chief propaganda guy counter counter propaganda chief counter propaganda analyst United States forces Iraq. What is the? What is this entail? I've never I don't understand this. That job in evolved monitoring monitoring adversary propaganda. This is usually the al Qaeda types but also included the iranian-backed so uptight and a bunch of those types of guys so the idea is to the job involves identifying a messaging. That's coming from these guys. Try to be the subject matter person on the ground subject matter expert. Who gets who observes the propaganda that these guys are putting out understands the context that goes with it. So the fist holding AK forty seven Means something very specific is a is a is a symbol for like arabian-backed extremist groups and a wooden made much at all to a to an al Qaeda type just as for example so understand the context that the message is coming from Understand who these. Who WHEN WE GET THESE MESSAGES? We might not know exactly who the target audience is breakdown. Those arguments figure out. What methods of appealed? The particular piece of propaganda is using and then Help the US government traffic counter messaging. Should it be needed okay? I think I got John was working for Lincoln Group within Iraq and then was listening for propaganda that the extremist groups were putting out and giving suggestions on how the US should respond to this propaganda. And John was getting into the details of how al Qaeda was spreading their propaganda chain chain of custody. Propaganda starts out with these these guys in Yemen or wherever they are Al-qaeda headquarters putting out messaging and then careers will take those commands and post them online. These are these are specific couriers in this. Everybody knows who these guys are. These are Al Qaeda official warriors that post online. What the new directives are and then disseminates from there to the battlefield commanders who take up the mission and it limited so yeah so a lot of the job would also include identifying that messaging when it comes out And then identify how maybe how that game telephone place. Where that message evolves over time and ends up what does it look like at the end of that game telephone? When it's posted on the door of a mosque. This was two thousand ten. John spent a while in Iraq and was even picking up the language. I got Tom Rotational. Baghdad Iraqi Arabic dialects conversational at that one after their contract was up and so he looked around to see what else you could. Do you find another contract position. But this time in Afghanistan something I wrote in Afghanistan the Super Pretty much all of two thousand eleven the atmosphere expenditure for that job manager. Yup that job involves at getting the word on the street for for the city. Essentially it's a type of human intelligence without the without using a proper title. Contractors are not allowed to Dickman intelligence human intelligence. Let's hit the brakes here for a second and just peek down this rabbit hole. There are many types of intelligent gathering methodology. You might already be aware of cigarettes and this is signals intelligence. Basically the goal of cigarette is to capture signals that. The adversary is broadcasting. This could be wiretapping. Phone calls listening on radio transmissions but more recently. It's been computer hacking to like reading emails or listening through the Internet for messages that are being sent online but there's also go or sometimes known as imminent and this image intelligence basically aerial photography or knowledge of the train of the area. And I guess if someone turns on your Webcam and takes pictures of you that might also be part of image to and there's also sint in this is open source intelligence gathering and this is what we do whenever we meet someone new online we go their name and try to find photos of them and what they're into an ascent is a non intrusive way of collecting data is just reading. What's already been published out there in the open and there's more intelligence gathering disciplines but John mentioned human intelligence or human and this is soliciting information from someone else. It's Kinda hard to because there's a whole spectrum of ways to solicit information from someone like consider the difference between asking your neighbor a question and waterboarding a prisoner to try to get them to talk. There's a wide range of ways to get information from people. Typically human is getting information from the adversary that can be used tactically like having an inside source that tells you things like when an enemy convoy is moving and how many weapons are on it or what kind of plans the enemy has. John doesn't do that instead. He wants to find out how the people feel about local politics. He doesn't try to uncover secrets or reveal information. That might put someone in danger. He just tries to take the temperature of the neighborhood and situations so we were not collecting tactical data. It was. It was out of purview. To if one of my sources reported that they had a safer and seen a Taliban platoon moving through a field that wouldn't be relevant for us but we cared about was a word on the street. Type things we wanted to hear and win say two to eighteen year olds or to thirty year olds are talking about the state of the government or the state of security or the state of the economy so the rule of an atmospherics manager is to get on the streets of Afghanistan and figure out what the local people feel about the various politics in the region. But how do you do that? Afghanistan at the time was a hostile area especially for US troops. So I had to dress in his full battle fatigues to get in there. I looked like a very I mean. I was very much like every other soldier. Every other person that I mean. He's got an assault rifle helmet. Everything so how does someone with an assault rifle in their hands? Figure out things like. How does the local community feel about the local police? They were paid for a for their placement and access near population centers or near Lake places of interest Where we wanted to get a good sense for what's what the word on the street is. John would go around town in a higher key. People like bartenders. The fruit market fender the taxi drivers and anyone who interacted with a lot of people on a daily basis and he would pay them just to get a report of what they heard that day and said these conversations were reported To us through our sources in a sort of anonymous way so all I cared about was age ref age of the individuals speaking number of individuals. Were they male or she now et Cetera When these reports were aggregated up helped get a good sense for how a population felt about it about a situation over pretty much. The entire country to an individual record in itself is really useful. It would to Joe schmos. Think about something isn't is not something you said policy bipolar but when you start collected aggregating and when you've got hundreds and thousands of reports then you can. Joson real statistical significance from what the population thanks. I don't know what to think about sigh up at this point. It just seems so weird to me that we go over into other countries and pay taxi drivers to give us reports about what people say when they get a ride. But hang on let me zoom out of this rabbit hole for second if I look at twitter. Just to try to figure out what people think of their government in a way that skidding atmospheric data on the population right such weird term atmospherics. But I think I get it now. It's just getting a sense of what people feel about. A particular subject while looking at phrases on twitter is free. Asya atmospherics manager pays people on the street for what they've heard that day and to me. That is strange up still sounds freaky to me. And obviously the words I off or psychological operation Has the connotation that that instantaneously gives you a negative perception but no matter what you do in your daily life? You're being you're being vibe. Them capacity is whether it's whether you choose your openly absorbing it or you objectively looking at it when it goes on to it you know again everybody's being told what to by they're being told with true on the Via did broadcast networks are whatever source you you get your information so Really is it bad snow. If the if the intent if the intent is to Shrink a weakened for weekend people and making them self sustaining. Yeah this again. The worst I up to me is it's cool but it's more it's much more than just a scary term. You know if I tell someone to do psychological operations in the Asuka whatever. Okay Okay Gimme a taste of what Asai APPs mission is like. Walk me through one that you were on okay so There's this machine ruined and hitting on high on a hilltop. This is when he was deployed in Afghanistan. And he's in a Humvee and he's dressed like your typical soldier full battle. They call it full battle rattle. You get your kid on. You got your. I got my gun on top. The earliest to forty have Called the NGLS loudspeaker. It's got It's about twenty four inch by twenty inch box impalpable Humby And basically it's hits the material so my gunner operates the the speaker though it and right to broadcast a message slowly shedding product. Speaking was playing just a recorded loop something like if you see any terrorist activity. Please report it this phone number one. They were broadcasting this message on the hilltop something started happening down in the town. There were some. Us soldiers on patrol down there near them. Some local started arguing knows a fence between the soldiers and the locals what the argument started growing and shouting shoving started happening in chaos started erupting among the locals and the infantry guys didn't know how to take charge because they're not trained on that in many cases they're they're not they're not changed to be Malleable certain situations and also didn't have a speaking so Michel me sell no value in our position on the soap. Op So we we moved down to the with a ruckus going on 'cause 'cause a Lotta Times escalations go bad really quick so if you don't have if you're not able to if you're not able to Coming down you either need to leave with quickly or or you know something. Bad's going to happen right there when you're when you're sitting in a in a position in the kind of people you you don't know any of these people have a bed. The variable. So the PSI. Ops team wanted to take charge and call on those situation down. Now keep in mind. Henry here has been studying the language on the culture for months simply to understand why these people do what they do so he starts looking to see who's involved in this and he's looking to see WHO's here you know. Give you the town law. Everybody knows everybody. I me the oldest so I started looking for a voice of reason. He finds this old guy who looked calm concerned helpful but possibly a trusted member of the community. Henry has been trained understand their culture so he picked US one guy to help out. Henry grabs a man pack and this is a speaker with the backpack built-in and he throws it over his shoulder and goes up to the older guy again. He picked this particular guy because he seemed like a cog a center of gravity. Someone that everyone in the area listen to well. We had that cog beak through the loudspeaker and had him speak down. Everybody and say hey. We're working on making the community better You know everybody calm down. And this worked the person he picked out to use the loudspeaker he spoke the local language and was able to defuse the whole situation. And everyone calm down so The science mission statement is becoming more clear now. The mission statement of Sigh up is to persuade and influenced the hearts and minds of foreign nationals to meet. Us objectives influence influence. Part is still hard for me to fully understand. You're telling me that. Us troops are going over to foreign countries to get people to change their mind on things. That's just that's part of the original. All right we're going to take a quick break when we come back. John's GonNa tell the story about how he used up to discover a weapons cache support for this episode comes from bleakest lately. I've been into reading books. Actually listening to the audio book version but some of these books take me weeks to complete and some. I don't even end up finishing all because it just takes so long. 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But only when you sign up at blinking dot com slash dark net. All right. Let's hear another up mission in this. One is one that John conducted while he was stationed in Iraq so It was to believe October. Two Thousand Eight and I had just moved from Baghdad where we were getting blown up on a fairly regular basis to central Iraq down in central Iraq. He wanted to find where terrorists were storing weapons like bombs and rifles. And he wanted to see if he could conduct a psychological to uncover the location of these weapons. Once you a map and pulled out just essentially the old school Panin Pen and paper time I've ever actually done. This sat down with a huge maps brought out on the floor in this up headquarters and just put a pin for everywhere that we knew. There was a historic cash site where Americans had found a large number of bombs before known expertise. High value targets known bad guy locations where these guys sleep Where did they live and known known historic attack site? So we're had gone off previous the area from that data. There seemed to be very obvious. But three kilometer by three kilometer cluster year. Yeah a fairly fairly small population center. I salute you know it. Looks like a village. Townsquare Square for villagers So my team For for reasons that are kind of rare on. My team ended up all on vacation at the same time. So even though it was the lowest man on the team it was my op so I decided that the mission that was going to do was try to try to execute this counter. Ide- push so went out every day and Talked with every single local. I could make that anybody coming in and out heard a loud speaker message messages. Well and then also Disseminated all sorts of different leaflets. This why sign up off against the derogatory term combat paper Boy The speaker the loudspeaker. Wha what's going on there? Is that like coming? Out Your jeep or something and they. Yes yes so. There's a there's a native linguists that works with teams and is usually I'm mission with us and so we drive around and we have. We have loudspeakers that sit in the Turret. That's more important are keeping our loudspeakers up is more important to us. I team and keeping the main gun out Usually with tons of infantry they have the guns the only ones allowed speaker at. It's not sound silly but honestly we were we so effective that there were specific specific orders to target the trucks with about speakers on this mission besides driving around broadcasting the message besides going around shaking hands and meaning as many people as he could in town he was also passing out leaflets pamphlets sometimes even sticking them up on doors and walls around town and he was doing this in his full battle fatigues as well with an assault rifle in his hands and a helmet on because he is in a hostile area. Still but the leaflets. He was passing around. They had a message. Essentially that this these are just as much or the the damage the population that images civilians just as much as they damage us guys are not very accurate when they aim. You're just as likely to get exploded as we are It also brings criminal elements into your city which necessitates the increase in our presence. We don't WanNa be aired. You don't want us here. We don't want to see exposure neighborhood. You don't WanNa see explosions. Your neighborhood help us help us. Make sure there are no explosions. Your neighbor Report to this tips. Usually that's usually that's roughly. The message goes what ended up happening. Was that a The driver of one of these major trucks just finished delivering a huge by Iran. Got handed one of my leaflets from one of the checkpoints and and went straight to the American base and with a with a strip with a strip map John. On the back of the leaflet showed us exactly where the ideas were resulted in the third largest. Catch the history of the war. Whoa interesting with just a loudspeaker and these leaflets. He was able to take control of a massive weapons cache. What a fascinating way to conduct war over three thousand P components those have an eighty percent kill rates enough to make over a thousand yuppies. Okay so in this situation find discern the enemy of not only the US but also the local people in the area and that is a good job. Okay but PSI. Ops isn't always clear and understood. There's three kinds of APPs there's white and black yet the white boxes truth it you could put behind it right from Kacha. White PSI OPS. Just like we heard so far honesty type stuff. A clear message with a clear sender and receiver with a clear objective. But then there's gray PSI. Ops which may not always be so clear truthful. This is a little bit more hidden to notice it. You might have to squint a little instill. You aren't sure it's kind of like when you see a viral video of something online. That's funny or cool. And he watched the whole thing and then at the end. There's like a person that has a name brand shirt on a drink with a label clearly visible and you wonder wait a minute. Was this just some clever ad or was this somebody actually making a funny video? It's hard to tell. And then there's black PSI ops. Black silence is almost impossible to spot. They pose as legitimate messages from one person to another but something is wrong about it. Maybe that person didn't actually send a message. The message isn't factual but it's so cleverly put together that it's too hard to tell so for instance a invaded region of the world which has two different enemy factions both fighting with me. What if I could start a war between those two factions? This way they'd waste their energy and resources fighting each other and I could just kind of wait until they're out of energy and then try to fight them. Black CY OPS. Does stuff like this. It might be posing as the leader of one of the enemy sending a message to the people to attack the enemy but then purposely getting that transmission leaked into the enemy's hands so that they think an attack is coming and then they attack. I am because teams know this culture so well and they know the enemy so well they can craft a message that is indistinguishable from an authentic one. Here I have an example of a gray or black side mission. So as I'm looking into this. I'm learning that this isn't new. I'm just not up on. How Military Conducts Are Affairs? Apparently science has been going on for decades ever since World War One and there's this one mission in Vietnam called Operation Wandering soul and it's just as scary as it sounds here. Listen to this. These are the sounds that asya ops troops were playing for the enemy in Vietnam over the loudspeakers was of course they played it at night from helicopters from GPS from stations within the jungles. Eventually there's a voice Copa. See the PSI. Ops teams learned in Vietnam when someone is improperly buried. Some Vietnamese people believe they're sold wonders. Forever only played this message in Vietnamese of a person who died and his wandering and it specifically says things like leave this place honor. My space has a wandering soul of this area. Go Away nobody knows if this actually worked or not whether chased out any Viet Cong. What the heck is this? Is this grace. I are black site up. I mean if I were Viet Cong and I heard this in the jungle. It might not be clear to me. Who was sending this message. Would I know some kind of psychological trick if I believe the? Us was broadcasting it. Then this would be grace. I up but if I truly believe there was a wandering soul in the jungle trying to chase me out. This would be blacktop. And I guess that's why I think PSI. Ops is so weird because in my head there has to be a ton of operations being conducted which are gray and black. Siab's freaky from what I can tell. The army doesn't engage with this kind of PSI ops though because they don't want to undermine the trust of the local people and they want to be honest and straightforward so they like to stick with a clear honest message. And if you think about it this is really just propaganda. Just done in a tactical way or so. Where were we? Let's get back to John. He goes on to tell me that while he was an atmospherics manager in Afghanistan. Something odd happened so at that time. It it appeared. It seems pretty obvious to me that the cyber threat was looming. Lieber anonymous was right there at the peak of operations in we had wiki leaks to its thing In a large number of these these smaller hacker groups were starting to crop up one of them being genetic Hussein's crew. Not Poison was her name and so two even though my my official testing monitoring them was that no longer applied when I switched positions went to Afghanistan. I still kept pushing the pulse of what was going on in a hacker world. Stay out of boredom curiosity nothing else. There's there's not a lot to do in your free time in Afghanistan. There's only so many reruns of house I could watch a channel and somebody hit me up in a PM which is essentially like a DM. It's the same concept right to to users talking to each other Outside of the public view He he stated to me that there were missiles headed my way overseas. Right now I get rocketed fairly regularly. Missiles are different thing. Though do you a do you know the difference? He said yes. And you know the difference. I know that these are coming. Because I'm on the Pakistani side of the border and I just saw them flying overhead so ice and this is one of those very weird moments excite. It's it's what we call single source unvetted. I don't I haven't vetted this actor. He's just one guy so unvetted single sourced and it's some random dude in some random IRC channel on the inter-. So I quietly. Take that report and handwrite it. This is one of those. I don't even want touching my email. Inbox I walk that report over to the intelligence people just handed to them. I don't want touch that anymore. Don't tell me anything about it. You Go then. I go to bed that night. Wake up the next morning and I'm doing my just meeting with my sources and three individuals sources said all the posturing people are talking about the Largely the people that live on in the Afghan tribal zone area. That you hear about all those people are talking that at a village had been hit in the Kunar province Pakistan missiles at three or four or five of these people are all reporting back to same thing multiple reports from each of them at all Pakistan. The Pakistan people are talking about. And that's enough for me. That's enough for me to hop back in the drive straight back to base hop on dire. See who the hell are you? The dude tells me who says he wants to hire back in America and he was hiring meets. Be A to lead. The Threat Intel analysts asks. She knew that new intelligence worked and knew that I was fairly up on what accuracy. So after I finished my one year in Afghanistan I moved to New York City and started at that point. It was now my my job to gauge with actors identify. What was what was going on. Every single day at report that up interesting John was trained on how to distill what was going on with adversaries in foreign nations now. He's shifting his focus to listen to the Hacker World Report. What's happening there to his clients which were large companies who hire them to get advanced knowledge. Of what kind of attacks coming down? The pipeline and to mitigate attacks that are ongoing this is commonly known as threat intelligence. I can certainly see the parallels here between PSI OPS and threat intelligence seat most organizations. No clue what cyber attacks are coming down the pipe they just don't have the network monitoring skills or maturity to do this and even if they had the knowledge. I'm not sure they'd even know what to do with this advanced warning but some organizations are larger and more mature and can pay to have a threat intelligence team and with this. They are getting early warning son. Who may be doing an attack and why so? Let's hear a story of something that John Did while he was there. He had clients and their main website. All of a sudden went down for this company. I believe it was a detox attack. Primary website network time protocol. Okay so typically you're not gonNA find out who is doing this unless they tell you directly that's just the nature of cyber attacks. They go unresolved forever. But John's job was to try to have an awareness of what was going on in the hacker world. They put out a put out a request to see if we can identify. Who's doing it so john hit the usual spots. He knows that hackers go to to see if he can figure out. Who's doing this all those days? It was fairly easy when you add anonymous bragging about it on twitter Baha first clue if anonymous is tweeting about this then he can go to anonymous learn more so he goes to where people in anonymous like to hang out which was an IRA C. Chat Room at the time now in these channels you could just join them and then hang out in there forever. And while you're there you can record all the conversations that are going on so John scours through the channels looking for any mention of his client and Bingo. He found the person who was claiming responsibility for taking down his clients websites. Thank they were in an Irish channel like an ethnic channel. That wasn't masking their Address from. They're able to get to a specific small city in West Virginia. No the more you start to know about someone the easier it becomes to find them combine username. Ip and a city. Google and see what you get from this. John was able to figure out this guy's name and phone number and with a name and phone number. John Calls him up and told him at Gotcha dead the rights. You're probably I'm hoping that this is at this. We can stop this before they arrest you at a fairly good of who was at the sock over in Defending Organization and we were drinking buddies on the weekend. So it's fairly easy for me to say. Hey I found the dude He's agreed to stop. Let's a strap it gear to try to. He's turned out to be like sixteen year old kid so having that discussion was hopefully able to keep Jim one. Dude out of prison not destroy. Somebody's career and also get everybody. The warming bus. They were no longer getting attacked. Ended that kid comply. Or what was his response deal? He complied and he's spoken at several conferences since we've we've lost touch But as far as I know he's still still running around giving talks conferences. Make a name for himself in the community. Wait where am I? What string my even pulling on right now see? This is what happens when I get into an episode. I just get thrown off course like all the time. The tech world is so fascinating to me. I can't help diving in all these different things to learn more. Oh yeah this episode is about okay so I feel like I have a good understanding of what PSI. Ops is at this point. But there's still a lingering question that some of you are thinking about right now which is if the US army is out there trying to persuade. Change influence the behavior of a target audience. Then is there anyone conducting these kinds of operations against us? Well Yeah Yeah definitely in a big way. Just listen to this. Someone paid millions of dollars to try to permanently edge. These jingles into your brain to the point that we all have the memorized now name made. This is obvious right. The Madman and the AD agencies in the world are using every trick in the book to influence us to buy their products. And we're inundated with this kind of stuff all day long but now we carry the Internet in our pockets and put so much of our life on it so online ad agencies have found ways to target us by tracking US watching what we say online. What we buy what we do and what we search for and then they give us tailored and custom ads just for us and the level of sophistication here is unbelievable. I mean they're even listening to what we're saying through our mics and giving us ads based on what they hear. It's nuts it's creepy. It's still being and it's up. And what's the deal with news today? There's so many channels that don't seem to be reporting honestly or accurately and broadcasting something to push a certain agenda or propaganda. My Dad used to tell me not to play too many video games because it might work my brain but is it possible that if he consumes enough slanted or biased mainstream media that his brain might become the one that gets warped. But actually that's not the lingering question I bet what you're really wondering is whether or not Russia has been running psychological operations on people in the US to influence us in the way we vote will. Yeah they are. There's overwhelming evidence about this at this point but just to give you one piece of evidence. Here's an interview on. Pbs Frontline with James Clapper and James. Clapper was the director of national intelligence at the time of the two thousand sixteen election. Here's what he said you go back to. Russia the sixties there is evidence of Russians attempting to interfere with or influence somehow the outcome of our elections very successfully but given the advent of all the technology. Now there's a certain ambient light that we would expect the Russians to engage in any way. Okay so there's always been some kind of Russian involvement with our elections and James Clapper notices. Because he's the director of National Intelligence. He's been briefed by the NSA NCAA about the history of these matters. In this case though as as we documented in our Intel Committee suspect that we published on the sixth of January. This was the most aggressive most direct and most assertive campaign that the Russians ever mounted in history of our elections to interfere and to somehow influence. The outcome Clinton just felt as though he'd been dissed by President Clinton that compounded by what he was convinced in his own mind. I guess was was an attempt at a Colorado pollution and to unseat him and he was convinced that the administration led by Secretary Clinton was out for regime change. So that is what the source of the Animus that actually we believe motivated Putin to interfere as much as he did in as aggressively as as the Russians did okay so we have the motive and Russia has the know how and what characterize this that the two thousand sixteen campaign is so different than the others were the variety in intensity the techniques that they employed apart from the famous or infamous hacking the DNC emails and the exquisitely timed dumping of them. Were there use very skillful sophisticated? Use of social media media trolls planning fake news. The very I think sophisticated slick propaganda campaign mounted by Rt. Which of course is a government propaganda arm. So the combination of all these tools that they use constituted the this aggressiveness and the multidimensional nature of the campaign. And that's what distinguished it from any other in In Our history okay. So Russia wanted to mess with our elections by hacking into stuff and using fake news. Botts trolls and social media to influence the voters. But with any good science mission they had specific objectives that they were trying to accomplish of which was to cast doubt or caused doubt in the minds of the public or the electorate and then secondly of course was again this animist personal animus Putin had towards surgery Clinton and so- Russia started spreading a lot of Anti Hillary propaganda targeting. Us audiences by publishing articles that smear her legitimacy by making memes that say things like lock her up and by feeding the narrative of how bad she is. And I'm not going to get into whether or not any of this was fake news or actually factual all. I'm trying to point out here is that Russia was spending money and resources to influence the way we vote in the United States by taking part in Anti Hillary propaganda as things unfolded because initially the Russians. I don't believe trump seriously as a candidate just like no one else did either but as things transpired and particularly when he became the Republican nominee Their focus kind of changed. You know what what could they do to favor him because clearly they they would prefer him over her notwithstanding the animus towards her just because he was known as a businessman somebody who could make deals with and had had some prior dealings with the Russians and the thought was that he would go easy For example on Human Rights So for their All the say their objectives I think kind of evolved as as as the campaign unfold the director of US intelligence. James Clapper would be in the position to know this stuff better than anyone and so it's fascinating to hear him. Explain how Russia has used up campaigns against us and these were all very cleverly done by people in Russia who clearly understood American culture and what influences us but I think this is a much bigger topic than what I'm willing to get into right now because there's just so much to it. I mean we could go into Cambridge ANALYTICA and the DNC hacks and how voting machines are vulnerable and so much more But actually there is something more I want to say about this. And that's about memes. I just read a bunch about me medic warfare and this is where people are taking memes and turning them into weapons and a means just text over a picture and that spreads on social media. And these me makers will take something which has a kernel of truth and then twisted or distort it in a way. That's designed to get you upset about something either at paints a political party or person in a negative way or talks about a political agenda. And if you think about it how many thousands of memes have you seen about Republicans or Democrats by now or about Brexit or cal exit or Earth Anti Vaccine? Not all of these are designed with the intent on dividing us but they're absolutely are people out there who are spreading these memes with the intent to confuse us cast doubt on us and to separate us and we are not ready for World War meam when we consume information online. Now we do it in a Staccato. Kind of way we bounce around all over the place looking at article headlines instead of actually reading them and memes satisfied this quick fix that were seeking online but they influence us because when we see other people posting things are slightly untrue. We don't always know what part of it is untrue and so we might believe it is true or we get that feeling that wow other people are talking about this or re tweeting it so it must be true and there is a whole social proof thing involved in all this too. We believe that things have more likes or up. Votes are probably more true than things that don't have as many up votes and when we're in this fast paced online world. We don't always have time to stop in fact check memes to see if they aren't you so when we see it up vote and move on it just becomes a be in our ear and we think about it more later and it knocks around in her head and then the next day we see something similar but a little bit more distorted and we start believing it even more even the memes that tried to refute things that are untrue have the opposite effect sometimes because people sometimes say wait a minute what any look into what. This team is trying to refute and the end up learning about a totally ridiculous made up thing and start questioning. Whether that's true. A lot of social media algorithms are designed to get you to stay on their site longer and we'll try to present you things that make you stop scrolling and when you do the platform notices this and starts looking for more content like that which ends up getting used surrounded with stuff. That's controversial. Were outrageous to you so yeah. Propaganda machines are learning how to use museums and rhythms to divide us or to get us angry about something when you combine memes with highly addicting social media that most of US use on everyday basis. You get an amazingly dangerous tool. That can be used to shape opinion in a very subtle way. The Internet molds what we see and who we are and if we use it enough it changes who we are as a society but the point is we're all being targeted by PSI ups constantly all day every day whether we watch. Tv read the news or just surf casually Internet in any capacity so many companies and organizations are spending millions of dollars to persuade change and influence our behavior and it's particularly hard in the US to stop it since there's this whole First Amendment free speech thing if somebody wants to say something they should be allowed to say it. But what if someone is part of a major propaganda machine with horrible motives and lots of resources to cause in our country? Should they have unchecked free speech rights to? It's really complex and let me take a minute to talk about algorithms. We're living in a world that history has never seen before where computers sometimes no more about us than we do. And what has historically limited? This has been our lack of understanding of biology and our lack of ability to collect amounts of data on people. But today we've overcome these obstacles so Adams and a are now hard at work learning everything about you. I'll give you an example. I really been into Jawohl Noah Harari lately. He wrote these amazing books. Sapiens and twenty-one lessons for twenty century and listening to him talk about Algorithms is so fascinating. Here's Yuval. I was twenty one when I finally realized that I was gained has been obvious at age. Sixteen fifteen and algorithm would have realized it very quickly and you can build algorithms like that today or in a few years. You just need to to follow your eye movements like you you go on the beach or you you look at the computer screen and you see attractive gun trucks girl and just follow. The focus of the is the is go. And whom do they focus on? Should be very easy and such an algorithm could have told when I fifteen that I was gay and the implications are really mind boggling when an algorithm knows such an important thing about you before you know it about yourself now we can go in all kinds of directions. It really depends on where you live and what you do with it. So maybe I don't know about myself that I'm paying but Coca Cola knows because they have these rhythms and they want to know that because they need to know which commercials to show me. Let's say Coca Cola knows that I'm gay and I even noted about myself. They know it and Pepsi doesn't Coca Cola will show me a commercial with showed list Guy Drinking Coca Cola but Pepsi will make the mistake of showing the girl in the Bikini and next day without my realizing why when I go to the supermarket when I go to the To the restaurant I will order Coca Cola Pepsi. I don't know why but they know Google and facebook can just look at your browsing history to determine your gender political views sexual preferences what you've bought recently. What you're thinking about buying next. How many kids you have. And you'll even keep track of their age through the years. They collect all this information because they're selling it to people like ad agencies and they want to keep you on their site longer so though custom tailor your experience to be the best for you. Netflix is always trying to pick what movie they think. I WANNA watch knicks. Spotify is at my play history and automatically throwing an Asong mix. I didn't tell it to play but he thinks my like. And why are they doing this? Because companies know these algorithms work and they know our brains are hackel and can be persuaded to keep using their services for longer periods of time. If given the right dose of information. When I was young I was told to follow my heart and to try to live out my dreams. This sounds like good advice. But I can't help but think now that my heart and dreams have been influence and persuaded by nation states ad agencies and stuff. I've just seen randomly online. And they're probably not my actual dreams so it's almost dangerous now to tell someone to follow their heart because their heart might have been hacked and it's not who they really are. I guess I knew all this was happening for a while. Now but what I didn't know is how the US Army was conducting this on foreign. Nationals troops are out there using loudspeakers handing out leaflets. But it goes beyond that. Sometimes they fly over a town and dump leaflets on the town or sometimes the fly over a town and broadcast TV or radio signals. That can be picked up by anyone in the town and I also read the. Us Army knows that their adversaries are spreading propaganda online through forums and telegram groups which is popular chat apps and twitter so if the adversary is on their USA APP seems must be able and ready to listen and respond to these channels to which move PSI OPS to the online world and that just opens up the playing field in a major way also. I learned the military has changed the name of science since it has a negative connotation they now call it me so. Dan's for military information support operations with any of this new though now that I get it and step back to take a look at it. This is just propaganda. And if I'm GONNA talk about propaganda I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about Edward Bernice. He passed away in nineteen ninety five when he was one hundred and three years old. But there's an archival interview I found of him from Nineteen eighty-six as you're the father of public relations. What led you more than sixteen years ago to see the need for public relations. I was ninety four years old during this interview. Is it number of the United States Committee on public information in World War One and what Edward Bernez did in World War One is? He went to. President Woodrow Wilson and said. Hey Look if you WANNA win this. You're going to have to sell this war to the American people so Edward started up one of the first propaganda machines ever and I found. That ideas were weapons. And we're even more effective than bullets. He understood that if you want to persuade people don't use facts or try to logically get people to follow you instead. Gopher their emotions skip the facts and just draw on their instinctual urges and maybe even scare them and get them to act based on fear so we start designing these propaganda posters in an attempt to get the American people to get behind World War. One and join the fight. One poster is of Statue of Liberty in tatters and flames with bombs. Falling on it and another is a picture of the world being gobbled up by the bloody hands of guerrilla. Who's wearing a German uniform? Facts didn't matter to him. His mission was to persuade people and to get them to bend to change their hearts and minds and he was wicked good and very successful total of three. Us presidents employed the help of N Word Bernez to get him to the people of the United States for whatever political agenda? There was at the time in one thousand nine twenty. He wrote a book titled Bro. Gunda by Edward our Bernie's which reads like a how to on persuading people and a major scale chump. So warn organizing chaos. He was also very clever at changing the names of things to make them sound better. Like for instance in nineteen twenty nine. It was taboo for women to smoke cigarettes but he would pay women to March in The New York Easter Day parade smoking cigarettes and when people ask ladies what are you. Smoking they said were smoking torches of freedom. The newspaper printed this outrageous stunt not knowing. It was an attempt to sell more cigarettes and win. The newspapers called cigarettes torches of freedom at sparked a whole wave of women who started smoke. Frank Luntz is the modern day. Edward Bernez Frank has changed the way people feel about certain things just by changing. The name of the thing like for instance. Frank realized that. When you say we'll drilling. It has a certain emotion to it. But if you change it to energy exploration becomes more neutral unless people complain and they're also used to be a thing called death tax but frank changed that to estate tax instead of wiretapping. Frank calls it electronic intercepts and if you listen closely you'll notice that a lot of politicians use this kind of language when discussing these topics which drastically changes the way. We feel about those topics but enough about frank. Listen to this guy. There Pentagon contracts with news organizations in terms of how to manipulate the news there Pentagon officials involved in press releases that go to the. The media in which intelligence is used to manipulate public opinion? Which is a violation of the charter of any intelligence Organization then you have retired generals who serve as press spokesman for all the networks and they're it's never revealed which military industrial firms They worked for this. Melvin Goodman. He's a former CIA analyst. And he's saying that the. Us government is in the business of manipulating public opinion. Here's another clip from the associated. Press the Defense Department is ramping up. Its spending as a delves further into shaping public opinion around the world and at home. This is a fight for the human terrain means that being able to influence populations to support government objectives. It's a fight. The Pentagon is taking seriously in all its spending nearly five billion dollars with more than twenty seven thousand people working to get its message out however some in Congress are questioning if it's also breaking the law by engaging in domestic propaganda the heck is going on here. The bottom of the story is just falling out billions propaganda. What the science up soldiers I talked to said. They're not allowed to conduct any missions targeting American civilians but is it illegal for the US government to put out propaganda to change civilian opinion. Let's take a look at history to try to see the. Us has engaged with a lot of domestic propaganda overtime. World War One World War. Two are obvious. Of course I mean just Google propaganda poster and chances are you're GONNA see a World War. Two poster created by the American government targeting American citizens to get them to get behind the war. And then there's also propaganda campaigns to get people behind the Cold War and also. Let's not forget when Nixon said this? America's public enemy number one in the United States is drug abuse in order to fight and defeat this enemy. It is necessary to wage Niu all out offensive. This started the war on drugs which has lasted fifty years now and the. Us Government has funded quite a lot of propaganda around. This this is this. Is Your brain on drugs. Also known that the Ad Council which is a nonprofit which distributes public service announcements it is funded and works closely with the US government to convey messages to the people. I mean that's shaping public opinion right and check this out. See once you know what to look for it. You start seeing everywhere so. I'm watching Netflix last night. And there's this show called Waco which goes over the story of David Koresh and he's hiding out in this building with like seventy other people but the police and FBI want him to come out because he's dangerous and keyed you. Not This is what the police and the FBI say in the show. So what's your plan? Then it's time to apply pressure decker. Wants to start. Implementing PSI OPS. To get them out you want to psychologically torture them not torture. It's a safe way to push. This is not an FBI sanction strategy. You do understand that. Don't think I haven't thought this through and so the story goes the FBI brought in a team and during the night would shine searchlights on the compound and play this noise through the loudspeaker. As Best I can tell this was the actual soundtrack plate for hours in Waco to try to drive these people out of their compound in the videos of this standoff you see military tanks ramming into the building doesn't have tanks so if they had to get help from the military for the tanks wonder who got help from to do sign this is a clear example of when. Us government has conducted psychological operations on American civilians. Let's look at the law now. In Nineteen forty-six the Smith Month Act went into effect which banned the State Department from disseminating information to US civilians. So it's illegal for the Pentagon to push propaganda to US Americans but in two thousand thirteen. We were facing a new enemy al Qaeda and they were actively recruiting. Us civilians to fight for them and conduct terrorist activities in the US and so president. Obama lifted the ban on domestic propaganda in an attempt to combat al-Qaeda so this disallowed the State Department to push propaganda materials to us. Us citizens now and this law has not been changed since two thousand thirteen. So I guess it's legal and that alone is another rabbit hole the. Us government is legally allowed to spend money and resources to try to persuade me to do something which I guess makes it legal for them to try to craft a new stories and alter the messaging on mass media. I think it's becoming more clear now. Where's it more blurry I don't know but let's bring this back to? Cya Do you remember when the US in Iraq? If so I bet you have. A vivid memory of the statue of Saddam Hussein being toppled over by. Us troops. Am I right? How exactly is that image of one statue falling etched into your memory so strongly sign up? That's how and let me explain. Here is an interview with BBC World Affairs Reporter. Who was there filming that statue being toppled over in two thousand three the entire live cameras of the world press where on the balcony of the Palestine Hotel and that was really the only events that they saw about Iraq is coming out so it was a sort of made for TV moments the. Us Army conducted an investigation into Operation Iraqi Freedom and published a five hundred page report. Outlining many of the major events of that war and in here is a story from a team. Who was there when the statute was toppled and according to the US? Army soldiers were present for this and taking part in the toppling of the statue. They saw the media circus. That was there in fact they even said there was just as many people as there were Iraqis there that day. And if you look at the footage you can see tons of people with video cameras in the crowd. Science team saw the local Iraqis. Were already beating the statue with sledgehammers the jumped into action and started using the loudspeaker to talk to the locals. Organiz them in conduct crowd control while the. Us troops. Tear down the statue at one. Point the CY team even ran in Iraqi flag up the statue and then got some local kids to climb on the record which was bringing down the statue and eventually it fell. This was a major up mission. World was tuned in and watching. Because it's not so easy to show that a city has fallen but you can use symbols like this which is powerful because this kind of stuff speaks so much louder than words do. Yeah I have that memory from watching the news then but this meant a lot more. It's their Iraqi people than it did to me. And the science mission was likely targeting the Iraqi people to bolster support from the locals who disliked Saddam Hussein but when the world's news cameras all captured it it had a secondary effect it gave the impression that the US was winning the war which stoked emotions in the US people. Either yeah us. Usa USA or you might have looked at this and said what's wrong with us. Why are we invading messing with these people? Either way as an American watching the statue come down probably would have given you an emotional reaction of some kind and I guess what? I'm hoping for here. Is that with all this information now when you see something on TV. That's a stunning image. Or something on social media. That's affecting how you feel. Stop and double. Check the source of this message. Is this message trying to provoke an emotion in you especially negative emotion like hatred or fear? That's a tactic of propaganda. Asya trick don't fall for it. Look behind it and try to see. Where is this message coming from? Is it a paid message like an ad or from a news? Alad that has historically created propaganda was designed to get you to act on. Fear is it giving non factual information. That's trying to rile you up. You've got better is now to see through this. Use them wisely. Don't trust any politician that tries to get people to vote based on fear. It's a shady trick designed to manipulate. You don't even be part of any. Groups has fear as a central point to it. Fear is Maur in your brain. It affects you negatively and causes you to do things. That often aren't good for you. You're virus is logic and facts. Don't get infected Big Thank you to our guests this episode Henry and Jonathan Nichols. You can catch Jonathan on twitter. His name there. Wvu Alpha soldier. The show is created by me. 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DNB: The Witting & The Innocents

The Propaganda Report

29:32 min | 11 months ago

DNB: The Witting & The Innocents

"Welcome to the drive time news blast thirty minutes. Forty five for patrons. Jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth. Liberty and justice. This is Monica parental. Our top story like everybody. Else's is there's looting and shooting in Chicago. The city's in lockdown bridges are up. It's escape from Chicago time. The mayor is saying, this is not a first amendment action. We will not stand for this. The police chief says the guys feel empowered and as I looked into the footage I was somewhat underwhelmed and also something fishy that was probably not supposed to be caught. Did you. Do you have any thoughts on this on the situation? I have not gone into this story. I just saw this morning. What triggered the event? Well. That's the thing. I know normally I don't. I try not to take the bait on stories like this, that are clearly a build up to something bigger and I, think this goes to maybe something you're gonNA toss about bill bar because he's the one leading the charge in going into the cities which people don't realize. There are two movements going into the city's one is this idea of Portland? Portland riots protecting federal property a send in the National Guard. But the other is this parallel Operation Luzon or spelled legend where they're going into crackheads. Fight Crime, steal guns. I mean. Then that is focused on Chicago and Lori. Lightfoot was like we're we won't have that will maybe. Oh, maybe she'll say okay now. But what I found it interesting about this story is that. Apparently, social media put out the kind of call to action to do this stuff. and. There was a shooting earlier in the day. where? A it probably was a righteous shooting something like that because it isn't getting the kind of coverage at the Jewish Florida, Ray Charles, Brooks was getting and but what was captured was a guy reading a script with a I don't know if it was George, floyd, t shirt on or what with like acting kind of teary taught creating a narrative about the shooting earlier in the day, and he's being blamed on completely misrepresenting the facts and it provoking. The anger and the rioting. So clearly, an Asian provocateur clearly had a script and then you go and look at the actual footage of what's being called riots and looting. It's very mild and that being spurred by social media, this seems like a made for media. To riots were spurred by social media. You're saying, yes. But I wouldn't even the the way they're being discussed about the getting a lot of press one, hundred arrested thirteen officers injured. I haven't seen any footage that leads to that kind of stuff you do see footage of the bridge is being up looks very escape from New York, but it's escape from Chicago. So it's it's a very made for TV event it seems like to me So that the country, the rest of the country has the narrative that justifies the Fed's going in. I mean, it's just lawlessness for a centralization. A crackdown seems to me same same theme, but here's leveling up. Yeah. I. Did notice that in the reporting on that story this morning, there was not much focus on the. Triggering event, and there was tons of focus on the rioting action. So they can glossed over what actually happened yet because the triggering event was full S- narrative. Just based on a legitimate kind of crime situation, and then social media told people what to do and where to go in. That's how. That's how these activists have been trained to do is to use social media to deploy people in any city at any point in time whenever there is a triggering event or a facade of triggering event, I wanna read something to you from a George Washington, university paper called how to start a war. This is written by a guy named Jd Maddix, who is a professor and he talks about issues on national security and governance. This acknowledged parent is this a current? Thousand and sixteen. Yeah. This is the abstract. A leader intent on starting a war must develop a compelling narrative for their domestic constituency and the international community for some strategic provocation defined here as the use of deceptive tactics to instigate. Against One's own state slowdown strategic resistance against strategic quiet for some strategic provocation defined here as the use of deceptive tactics to instigate violence against one's own state has been a reliable means of initiating war under the guise of self defense. So, what is. A hard time processing that what is that saying is? is paper basically goes through a bunch of different wars and shows that. The triggering event was a strategic provocation, a false flag of sorts that was started by the country that wanted to go to war, but needed it to look like they were acting in self-defence. Right. Okay. That's a false flag. And? It goes on, it goes through eight eight cases of this, and it shows a basic pattern and it shows what it says some unwelcomed truce about the state leaders methods, and the use of these deceptive narratives are going to continue. Basically, this paper concludes and it goes through an investigates and shows the patterns of it that just about every war that we see. Is caused by the people who claim? Wow, victims. Yeah. Did did you catch any of examples? Did you notice what he used as an example? I haven't read NBA All the examples yet, but I wonder if he includes the US. Yes. He does. He does he includes the US yes, and there's a lot of times they won't. Right. This is this is what I talk about Saul Linski, a lot except this is just on a national level as opposed to an activist level. It's the same philosophy with activism and stuff seeing on the streets and it's people provoking they. You have to be the person who is the victim so that you can get your constituency to support the war or the fighting effort. Otherwise, if you're a bully, people aren't GonNa want to join in and and die people need the moral high ground and that's what this is all about and bill bar. because. Imagine. I feel like that can also be applied to kind of civil war if that's what you. Absolutely. That's what I'm say-. With the activists aspect of it is. Yeah. So Bill Bar had this interview with Mark Levin last night Mark Levin has said that's how he says it. And they were discussing. What he called a new form of guerrilla warfare driven by the less lust for power, and during this discussion of the black lives matter protests. Bill Bar said to seventy said, they are a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism communism. They're essentially Bolsheviks. Their tactics are fascistic, and then he went on to refer to the riots that are organized by Antifa as being guerilla warfare and he says the way the gorilla hides out among the people as a fish in the ocean. What they do is they are essentially shielding themselves or shrouding themselves and First Amendment activity they go. Gosh. Gosh. That's exactly what Laurie life. But said, that is the quote that's being plastered all a release today. Yes, he yes. He says, they go into the demonstrations which are exercising first amendment activity and they insinuate themselves in their to shield themselves. That's where they swim and what they do is hijack these demonstrations and they provoke violence and he says that they've turned into a secular religion that is seeking complete political victory. Wow. I. Feel a little bit like. We've been reading that narrative that narrative has been there for us. We have been talking about this for a while, which is soon as bill bar saying what he's saying is absolutely true. Of course, however, what's going to be used push forward, which makes me question when you put that in light of this strategic provocation that we're talking about who is provoking these riots. There's GonNa. Be People on all sides benefit from it. So maybe there's people on all sides provoking the riots. People on maybe well, well up promoting the riots, I don't know as well as the the Bolsheviks on the left if everybody's benefit them. It seems me. That a certain height, certain level of overarching control here. It's the. The thing is coming down from one one entity or one COBOL and not. Yes. I think the people who are on the two sides of it. Think they are on two sides. I. Don't think they know. By The outcome is desired, and if the synthesis is communist or fascist, it doesn't matter to them. It's just a way to control from top. Fascist but fascism socialism. But what you see now with like the big reset and everything is this amazing concentration of money and power in the hands of very few actual people, all of whom I previously identified as puppets. These big tech billionaires are puppets very few. People are the entrepreneur and the CEO and the face job and the social activist, and you know shooting fucking rockets to the. Moon. These guys are are of packages that are put out there. So it's not hard to control unless Travis calendar and then you get taken out but. They're concentrating it all at the top like that. So if either way that it goes. It's going to be in the hands of small number of people and and yeah. Are Some of those people more inclined to outcome or another? Yeah. But that's not. We're being manipulated by the guys at the very top with this stuff in my opinion. Yeah, and I learned a definition. From. The book double lives, spies and writers. Oh. Fuck of idea. Great. Which has my mind spinning in a lot of ways. You must mention. It's illegal man when we talked to him tomorrow. As his, he turned me onto that Stalin. Every step of the way from the beginning of the rise of Hitler was working to appease Hitler, the actions that he took under the front of Anti Fascism worldwide. Only seem that way in name, and in effect they were taking care of Hitler's problems, Hitler's enemies along with taking care of Stalin's NBC, we're both fascist dictators. Absolutely and that's what I think about China China's fascist. So the definition from that book that I learned was there's the witting the people who are wittingly Bolsheviks spies. With us and the ones who worked there, the innocence they call them the innocence, the ones that don't know, sorry I didn't mean to interject just a gratuitous fugger is in there I swim. James Clapper used to say winning, winning, winning, winning and I was like nobody says winning they say unwitting nobody says witting what the hell, why is he saying that? Did you see the word witting? Yes. Yeah. His he was reading up on Yana. That's WED immediately. And fully cooperating, but the innocence and they keep most people. The innocence are true believers as we know them and are what most of the people involved I think in these protests are the are innocent true believers being pulled around by the witty and anyone who has real ideological scruples. Real principles is going to have to get purged Stalin purged everyone, but you have to you have spurs Persian the true believers because you're not a true believer, you were just using it. They get disillusioned and they get mad. Yes. stolid perched everyone is unbelievable. That's why I think even at the highest levels that you see, JFK Nixon Reagan, these people taking out I don't necessarily think it's because they had all these principles, but they did think of themselves as autonomous actors, and at a certain point, they just wouldn't follow orders. They had an idea of why they were doing what they were doing and I think that you can just take people out. That's why even if somebody's in on it, I, it's not that I still worry for them. and. They should be worried for because. They will be the first one to be purged as Luli. Wish reminded me of this thing like they. They arrested all these people on the ground and they're investigating their social media accounts and everything. I forgot that little detail. They're. They're doing a whole sweep. That's how they're tracking. Those are just regular people who are going to get gonNA. Get go go down for this and they're using these. streetlight light cameras that were put in place to lot of accidents and stuff there be ha- Iraq down approaches. Like we said, they would use them. They made them this shot spotter. The shots potter is supposed to loosen for gunshots. Big Fan deal. Right? You know it's too late once it goes off, but they can. They can listen to conversations, Yup. I had a brief power outage there. We were talking about some of their surveillance methods and the way that protesters are being tracked and I was about to tell you Monica. Monica that there are two protesters facing potentially life in prison for throwing Molotov cocktails and they were caught because they were tracked through a lot of surveillance methods whether it's the cameras on the street or people taking pictures themselves and putting it on social media. These people were out protesting because they were trained and they were told to do that by these activist groups and they were made to feel. It's okay. They're made to feel empowered. They're untouchable, and now they're face the consequences because all the stuff is being tracked. I people are responsible for what they do, but there are certainly I mean age all the for I. Think it was the first book ever sent. Me was about the Lebron's analysis of crowds and that this was over one hundred years ago around one hundred years ago, they were already fully aware of using crowds to get people to do things. They otherwise would not do I mean that is there's a pattern governments you get people to. Support things. They otherwise would not support by making them scared through crisis through crowds, crowds in power. So they get them to show up, they agitate them with somebody like this, this agent provocateur who was on tape or in Chicago. And then they literally, which is another thing that's in the record, put frozen water bottles in their hands. People in black from head to toe with umbrellas and face masks face met know the face mask thing the more this protests on folsom more. Every single person wearing face masks seems a bigger part of it. That, that is a highly coordinated to crisis. event. Cya. Yeah, it definitely empowers people to do more that they wouldn't. If they weren't wearing a face mask and it dehumanizes people, but it Gar a guy guards the the people who are arming you. If someone came up to you with a face mask on a normal times at handed, you're frozen water bottle, your lizard brain might say. Don't trust that guy. But WE'VE BEEN SO A. Endured or whatever? Like we've been so conditioned to accept that to put that alarm bell off. You know what I'm saying and you have the mask. So you feel empowered. That's what you're saying. But I'm saying it just it seems to me that get locking people. Down, making sure they can't talk to each other in meat space and getting them agitated over video gamed, then getting them out there provoking them and handing them frozen water bottles while everybody's wearing masks like this stuff, it seems like the covert thing and the protests thing were were really have so many. So many CO agenda the NFL. It's. It's just like in that report from our and mountain I must re that although I've read it about five times that you always want to achieve multiple agendas and you've said that to always wanted to achieve multiple agendas with a Cioppino, it's really a wasted effort if you can't get a couple of things ticked off the. The Cross Pollination Edward Bernez was a big advocate of that. Make sure you accomplish a lot of different goals and a lot of different areas. oftentimes, they might be indirect in the way that they are accomplished, but they are still in the in the minds of the planners, and then you you take the Stacey Abram internship quote that I read not when she was in the internship. But one of the organization she was an intern four, just the most recent white paper just pulled it up, and the guy said, we have long term goals. Sometimes allowing riots break out seems like it's against our interest, but trust us we've got a we've got a plan. And that I mean I'm paraphrasing that would sound something like might that might come out of Stalin's mouth when he was talking about. Hitler according to the research done by Stephen Koch in this. Book. Double. Live. We think that Hitler would have the same thing because Stalin admired Hitler for using his same methods. Yeah. I've read that. So in foreign policy, there's an article titled Spies or Fighting Shadow War against the coronavirus and to a point that you just made. A passage in here says, it's not surprising that in the face of a lethal new virus without a cure societies are confused scared and in disarray, and they are easy prey for state and non-state disinformation and such circumstances. Human Nature tends to search for explanations and the hidden hand of a foreign government is an appealing way to explain the otherwise inexplicable. The fact that we are so vulnerable right now, more vulnerable than probably any other time in our lifetime to the manipulations of the powerful because of the anxieties and the uncertainty. Other things fear. Rach I fully absorb that. They're saying that we don't have the cure everybody's panicked. Everybody's uncertain. Their lives have been threatened enough people, and in those states, we are more vulnerable than any other time because we were looking for answers to manipulators Scott exception. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Somebody tweeted to me today. That, when you have fear and anxiety and that kind of thing, it literally shuts down. Thinking reason does it shut? Jirgas. Anxiety I've witnessed that when it comes to Hang Zaidi, like if you're on a radio show makes you nervous or you're taking a test that makes you nervous. It actually makes your situation way worse because you can't think like that. Now, I think it's probably because that Lizard brain thing. It was helpful to shut down all the distractions when you just had to decide fighter flight. But when it's when we're highly cognitive and then we put these animal response reflexes on top of that, it's a disadvantage or an advantage to the attacker, right? It's your brain back. When we were hunters and gatherers, we see a snake we needed run. Their tiger, whatever it cuts off all the takes the resources that your brain would otherwise half for other areas for higher there now, and it shuts them all down since all those resources to the fight or flight state. So it's Basically impossible to do higher level thinking and reasoning when you are in that state until you have taken a breath and regathered yourself, and at the same time, adrenaline is released, you must take action. Yeah. I. Mean, it's very interesting and totally petrifying. But back to the I guess the the latest covert stuff I want to things that I thought was interesting one. Wise. Well, let's Let's take a quick break, and then I'll tell you what I think is interest a big welcome to our latest sponsor, an avid member of the propaganda report community, true science experts, and. With a huge variety of premium cvt from different farms and with different cannabinoid profiles all in one place. 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And you want to do this, you have something planned for Ron Paul Day, August twenty second email me the propaganda report podcast at Jamile Dot Com and I will, if I get your email in time all announce your little event. To listeners. Fantastic. Why not? Yeah. So the two things about the the Rona that I wanted to insert into the conversation is, I, think I. Don't know if we talked about it on air or if I was just tweeting it. that. They're talking about Kawasaki Disease? I, think. We've talked about this. They changed the name to acute facile my lightest something like that and I was saying, Oh, they just want people to be super terrified or not want to send the kids to school and somebody tweeted last week they. They're preempting complications from vaccination because they're saying that's an impact of covert. But and I might have said that because I thought that was interesting I think a page, a patron of said this. Point. and. So but it just hit me like a ton of bricks. I? Think yesterday. It's like wait a second acute, facile, my lightest. Gillian. Bahrae Julian part, whatever it's called Gillian Bahrae, which is an absolute proven side effects complication of the flu vaccination. That's what that sixty minutes was about in the seventies about the swine flu thing. That is and I think polio might be the same thing where you get this kind of quasi paralysis, this permanent muscle weakness. So this FM might actually be quite similar to GPS and actually be an a a well established potential side effects of vaccinations. So it's not just a theory I think that there's some meat on those bones. Makes me very nervous and. And that's actually the nature of Atra genetic illness is that the the treatment has the side effects that's then mis attributed or intentionally mis attributed to the disease itself. So they're saying cove, it has this ability to create this muscle flash city. I mean, that's a weird thing for coal to do. But it's not a weird thing for a vaccine to do is ready set national makes. Me Think it's sister already setting the stage for attributing. The vaccination, which is unknown at this point to having that kind of a of that. Cova would have that kind of thing so that they have that excuse if the vaccine does it I, think that's quite sinister, but I do think that's a and then another thing is to clarify the theory. Is that possibly they are go ahead and say that these side effects of what a vaccine, my might be the right now saying, these are side effects of covid. So people don't suspect it to be the vaccine. That's my interesting. That's my theory. Now is that I think it is possible that they are sinisterly front running the vaccine complication by preemptively abusing it to cove it. Yes. Interests me, and that's just my speculation. But let's see what happens. That'll be many years before that comes out, but it'll be eternity before what happened in those nursing homes come out because Cuomo has said in typical pizza gate and Biden in the Ukraine hundred and fashion. My Enemies are suggesting investigation into something I might have done. Wrong. That makes the call for the investigation invalid. So, I'm not going to investigate and this of course is what? Is. The whole problem. that. What recourse do you have? When the government's in charge of everything you really who watches the watchers? It's the same old thing. So this Washer, who's watching himself. Is like, yeah. I'm not going to tell you what I see or I'm not gonNA. You know. So that's it's just it's getting to be. Too, obvious a pattern that what you would say it's kind of taints it. It taints it as long as the other side, 'cause the investigation and the other side is somebody who is a Republican member? Yeah, opposite. Totally. So I say they're all in on it and that's how they set it up. Yeah. When you set up a society where the? Side, all the other side is a poisoned well. So your enemy is a poisoned, well, any information that your enemy released therefore is poisoned and not to be trusted the discredit. Any truth that you want to bury is you have your men is. Quite convenient control, the opposition because you can. Do that I. mean the fact that people don't see how how just one step removed from what you see is what you get these manipulations are it's just one step removed Dinelli, but Fox didn't you watch Fox last night? It's like they're not telling you the truth, but but they're on my size like, no, they're not. Yeah, that's the halo effect. We see the the those who we identify with through a Halo, and we are not critical of them whereas we see the other side through demon lend. This is only working because of the astounding dumbing down of America that we have been warned about for decades from Charlotte Easer by to. John, Taylor, gadoe I mean, it's just it was a precursor, and here we are yet. It plays off of our biggest human vulnerabilities that in order to overcome, we have to constantly question and constantly really critically analyze and everything set up in society especially right now, fights against that works to prevent us from doing the very thing we need to do. Yep and I and I think that what's happening right now this this. Zina's of. Civilization is a is a world changing events tantamount to World War One, I, mean there's no going back and there's just. The the fact that Amazon distribution centers are taking over the anchor positions at malls that was a big story today. We know are not going back. The only thing I worry about is when you look at the tasking in that report from iron, mountain it says wars serve a lot of purposes, the primary one of which is reducing the population. Okay. So we had another power outage as a monsoon has hit Georgia and it is affecting our Internet. As I said, the power has gone down three times now during this recording. So we're going to go ahead and wrap this up. But in the patron fifteen, I'm going to tell you about CNN's new dystopia and facemask ads and a duke study that. That tells us which type of mask is not only ineffective, but we're than wearing no mask at all, and I know, Monica, is going to have a lot of great stuff in the patron fifteen to you guys can find your drive time news blast every weekday afternoon of the proper dot com, your favorite podcasting platform with propaganda report podcast feed. 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Suspect Arrested in Connection to Package Bomb Mailings

The Point with Chris Cillizza

05:41 min | 2 years ago

Suspect Arrested in Connection to Package Bomb Mailings

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of Ford -able eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Welcome to the point for Friday, October twenty six twenty eighteen I'm Brooke brower, managing editor for CNN politics. Philly in for Chris who's out today and cutting through the political spin to bring you the news, you need to know, many developments is Friday, and they mail bomb story. The biggest news is that. He suspect was arrested. The man's name is Cesar Siamak, he is fifty six. He has an, Azure, Florida address. He has ties to New York and a criminal history are CNN team. Evan Perez, Mark rallies. Shimon Peres, Brynn Gingras and others. They report the DNA found on at least one of the packages as well. As sciatic cellphone helped investigators identifying multiple law enforcement officials said he was not previously known to secret service. They said but Florida records show string of arrest. Any back to the early nineteen nineties that included a two thousand to arrest by Miami police for an offense described and online wreck. Words as a quote threat to bomb and threatened to discharge destructive device event in plantation Florida was towed away to Miramar Florida. That's where an FBI field offices located along forcement official said the outside of the white van features images of President Trump vice president Pence, there's also a CNN sucks sticker on the side of the van earlier. Friday, authorities intercepted suspicious packages intended for New Jersey, Senator Corey Booker, former director of national intelligence, James Clapper. There was also a suspicious package in Sacramento addressed to California Democratic Senator comma Harris, according to a law enforcement official and a little later, we learned one for major democratic donor. Tom star Booker Clapper Harrison style part of a group of targets that included former President Obama for vice president Biden democratic donor. George Soros, actor Robert deniro, former attorney general holder Hillary Clinton. Even the former secretary of state and former CI director John Brennan, President Trump was brief Friday with the latest by his chief staff John Kelly, the president's spoke at a mid day event for young black leaders at the White House. He said in part, quote, these terrorizing acts are despicable and have no place in our country before Friday's developments all unfolded, Krista. Very thought provoking piece of analysis posted on CNN politics that a highly recommend you read the headline. This is the logical conclusion of our poisonous political environment. I can't read the whole thing here, of course. But here's a little bit. He kicks off with this quote. It's easy amid the nearly hourly revelations of new mail bombs being sent to prominent Democrats and others who have been heavily criticized by President Trump to lose sight of the big picture here. We're dealing with an act of political terrorism. The breadth of which we haven't seen in a very long time. Chris goes on to say that quote, while this is the broadest act of obvious political terrorism we've seen since at least the two thousand one. Anthrax attacks when politicians and members of the media received envelopes filled with bacteria five people died and seventeen were injured. During those decks is not the only incident in recent years, Chris notes, the shooting attack on members of congress at a baseball practice that nearly killed Louisiana. Republican congressman Steve Scalise in two thousand seventeen the man who showed up at a DC restaurant in two thousand sixteen with a rifle because of the pizza gay conspiracy theory is another example, the death of a counter protester in Charlottesville Virginia just last year at the white nationalist March. Chris says, quote, no matter who you blame if you blame anyone for these acts and the clear increase in them it's impossible to separate them from the political climate in which they are committed is beyond bait that we not only live in a time of remarkable political polarization that we also have increasingly come to regard those who disagree with us. Not just wrong or dumb, but evil Chris has a lot more to say in that piece. Do check it out right away. If you haven't ready had along with the rest of our breaking news. Covers in analysis of all the latest on this developing story, and that's the point for Friday, October twenty six twenty eighteen thanks for listening. 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DtSR Episode 379 - IoT Transforming LE

Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast

24:34 min | 1 year ago

DtSR Episode 379 - IoT Transforming LE

"They say they say we should have known embed thus od down down into this. It's time I again the venture down the rabbit hole into the world of cybersecurity. You're plugged into the podcast for security leaders and practitioners with a business sense. Prepare for unique interviews insights and practical advice. That makes your job just as Benazir and now. Please welcome your guides signs this adventure jeans Gerardine and the White Rabbit's rough welcome welcome. Welcome good morning good afternoon good evening. This graph welcome down the security rabbit hole. This is down. Askew do you have a whole podcast. We are and once again recording. Live at twenty nine thousand nine and beautiful sunny and relatively warm compared to the rest of the country apparently Las Vegas Nevada whereas US seventy six or something like that and not twelve. I have I have a phone conversation with you guys because I'm always interested in the kind of cutting edge or where things are going and what they could be used for And Brian Chichester's got a great talk. You gave on Iot the end such a bryant introduce yourself and then we'll we'll sure again. My Name's Brian dister. I oversee global strategy for governments In all the public sector for open text and I'm headed back to snow so I'm enjoying this. I'm enjoying this warmth right now. You've got snow. They had snow this week. I'm happy to. I'm happy. Happy to they went away but not looking forward to the forty degree difference. That'll be leaving. No well all right. So what did you talk about. And what was the premise of you're talking and Get little lineup for people and we'll we'll take it from there. Sure so What I talked about was around Internet of things within the law enforcement field. I mean we're open text. Were were big on data. I O T obviously transforming the way with all the points we ingest data prostate etc.. But we took a dive live in to some of the things happening within law enforcement. There's a number of IOT devices that we can talk about and it's incredible the the network technology see. That's happening the different layers that are happening within some of these IOT devices. I'll give you an example so smart cities are becoming more pervasive rightly and obviously everything is interconnected but you look at a single streetlamp it. It might obviously it has Has lightbulb it. Probably we have a video camera but then with that you can also layer on a gunshot detects a sensor. You can layer on different monitors I to to figure out what traffic flow is like for for various reasons but with the new five G. networks happening and six G coming soon. You can actually process data at that point to help make decisions and provide recommendations to the public safety officer her or whoever's on the other end which is really cool. It's generally been just that ingestion or the or the creation of data and it flows to where it flows in the processing analysis happening but those networks really allowing for a lot more to happen at that point all right so the logical question. What will you just told me His holy crap? What happened to my privacy? So that was another part of it so it. How can you consent to to what happens at a streetlight right you? You might have a video camera run and you're caught in that video camera. How do you consent to wherever that? Data's going and the short answer is you can't but there are a lot audibly. Yeah there are a lot of privacy laws that are happening in again. That was part of the talk. The thing that I'm most interested around privacy the insecurity especially when it comes to. We're all this. Data's flowing is the idea around not just the capture. The data the process of the data. But but the the security of the data in a world where we have open government so A lot of this stuff can be depending on what that data is from IOT devices in within government space can be Pushed out through foia requests. So making sure that everything's redacted properly and the data's it is going to To areas for good we talked about re identification on real quick which is really scary in Australia. They a UH somebody was able to take disparate amounts of data and re identify two point two point nine million Australian citizens just based on in these medical records based on the year they were born and the date of the procedure happening. So and you can start to pattern. People do that kind of stuff with with with certain data. But it's scary. Privacy is a great make a great point. Well so okay. You talked about about with five G. and I've seen that Oliver News right now all the ads verizon. At and T. or doing five G.. Eight hundred five. I think but the you said all the processing can happen. Locally is that is are we talking like like a raspberry Pi type of processing or something only more complex than that something a little bit more complex than that. We're not quite there yet. But that was. That's what the network is really built to support. And that's why they're already looking at six g smart. Smart cities are growing at a slower pace now. But they're they're picking up adoption and six. She already looking at twenty thirty twenty thirty thirty five sixty rolling out. And my my guess in my prediction is that smart cities. We're GONNA TAKE OFF and they're preparing that network infrastructure for that and that's where I think. A lot of that process will happen. That's where I think the recommendations will happen and I think you're gonNA see a lot more efficiencies with that but again again the privates insecurity those points and points especially will be top of mind well with the with the fact that you can have video video cameras on every street every corner that already pretty much everywhere but that they can monitor traffic flow and then essentially tell held a street lights on different places. Hey this this red lights creating backup over here give it a longer green. Let the traffic go and reset. Is that something we're talking about here. Now yes absolutely well beyond that if you think if you tie back to public safety yes you can do that. But think about first responders There's a there's a fire truck on route somewhere and in real time they can get an understanding of where the congestion points are based on that and perhaps get real time recommendations Sion's from an AI platform that say change change course go here. Obviously ways is doing something like that now but a lot of that crowd source. Now you're talking about data coming in from from From be smart city and points that would then be processed through Engine in provider's recommendations of the research responders. Okay so the natural. The question that I have done is because I've I've seen that that was it the hard Episode of the series right than the movie were they they they start messing the street lights and all that so that can that can naturally. Then you think about that. The way that can be abused the way that can be destroyed lead you can create some serious havoc in panic are they are the people that are putting these things together. Please tell me. They're at least thinking about how to protect the stuff because it's it's security by design. It's actually there's a lot of regulations to hopefully some of those fears. There's privacy by design to and there's some MM FRIEDRICH CONAN penalties put into place to make sure that manufactures of these technologies are building them by design with privacy. But it's it's already happened. And one of the one of the cases I provided. Was Hackers Rabl to set off the tornado alarms within the city of Dallas. Yeah yeah so so yeah so. It's it's certainly concerning. That's a simple alarm imagining. I mean we just heard James Clapper on one of the keynotes and he talked about the hacking of infrastructure being hit essentially keeps them up at night right and I think that is something that is certainly any from a security standpoint. Something we have to look at well and it doesn't take long to grab a copy lugging show Dan and do a quick search on on open camera. Interfaces there was one that was published at twitter a little bit ago had various powerplants surveillance. Cameras You just watch people go about their business at these power plants and watch them badge in and watch them badge out like that stuff is scary because you've got patterns of life developing Inside of these things you know it doesn't it makes it so much easier to go. You know a break in or find a weakness so while I fully on board with the the fact that this could be creating some fantastic opportunities I think it also could potentially create some horrific movie scenarios. Radio's if we're not careful yeah and I think one of the scary parts too. I mean just just add onto the gloom and doom is technology takes off at such a pace that policy. You just can't keep up if you think of. How just in the United States Freeman information? Act One thousand nine hundred sixty six. I don't think Lyndon Johnson thought that they were going to be processing assist data from disparate databases with an AI. Engine back in one thousand. Nine hundred in order provides exactly so so you look at technology technology it it proliferates faster than we can really keep up from a policy perspective. And that's not gonNA change so it's it's how it's how do we change from being being reactive to proactive in terms of security but in terms of privacy. You're seeing I mean with. GDP are even though that's a reactive posture CPA. It's it's a reactive posture. But there it's already top of mind again. I talked about the manufacturers building things privacy by design that's an important step And hopefully there's some kind of symbiotic relationship between the manufacturers and government that figure out. Okay we need to get this together and make sure that were. We're moving to the future in a smart way. Well yeah as possible way and I think the alternative is is complete chaos potentially you. The alternative is is die hard four. Yeah well that's the alternative. Well I think that what we could potentially end up with is from you know kind of bring this back into the forensics World A. I guess I'll ask you. Then what does this mean for law enforcement because having cameras everywhere having I engines determined determined people you know the the route that Fire engine or the ambulance takes street. Leads all that stuff right gunshot detectors like there's is a lot of things that are going on here that are potentially being added everywhere does that. What does that do to to the to the ability to to police the public essentially? Well hopefully I I mean in some ways it's GonNa make their jobs harder but ultimately all all of this technology is supposed to be forgotten. It's it's hopefully going to make their jobs easier. Make them safer for. Make them more efficient. There is the privacy concerns of of the that they have to take into consideration around body cams and there's a lot of things like that. Ah Yeah but but hopefully it makes them safer. I mean I mean while there are privacy issues with the body Cam and there are some big brother Ish on concerns there is then somebody. They're keeping them hopefully safer they understand the situation. There's the dashboard cams on their connected vehicles. Hopefully that's their keeping 'em mm safer and that's what a lot of technology is doing some of the devices that we talked about in. Luckily we had a we had a customer here from from a regional police department that That these drones with their SWAT teams They're able to remove the human element on that initial initial search to make sure that they're the they're not going in somewhere that they're not prepared for That's making them safer. That is that that is. That's that's an incredible advancement because that I mean I can't even I can't even imagine the the incredible bravery that it takes walk into a situation situation where you walk into a building hostage crisis or some sort of shooter active shooter situation. You don't know what you're walking into. But being able to deploy a drone or ten or twenty automatically serve this situation identify where groups of people are listen for listen to audio detection on potential gunshots. That kind of thing. That's going to change the game significantly. Oh I think so again. It's all to make them safer. There's some other iot devices are using it. Drones are one obviously completely connected up a connected holsters connected firearms. They have it all tethered to figuratively tethered to their body cams. So when they removed their firearm their body Cams automatically activated and other other automation can happen. That's interesting yeah with the connected firearms. You get full on incident report. So when the farms when discharged when it's reloaded when when you actually change. Aim there's accelerometers within the firearm so when when you when you change aim ultimately a lot of this stuff too and this is where we can tie it back to the data element of it when it all flows into an investigation you have a complete complete three hundred sixty degree. Look at what really happened. From the officers point of view from the devices point of view and it it it goes beyond. Just what's being being deployed by the actual officer by the Police Department. It's the consumer IOT devices as well. So smartwatch. For example. There's a number of things like that. You can do with smartwatch behind. Just tell time and get your text messages and emails. If your friends investigator you can figure out time of death you can figure out through. GPS geographic location. If it's tethered to the phone you can actually gather and this is where the element of it context around situations nations leading up to the event. So there's a lot of information just based on that one device that you can really clean. That was never possible for well. So that's super interesting. Because I'm pretty sure that that's not the same the device that you're talking about that smart a firearm you talking about. It's not the same lesson I carry everyday that's probably substantially really more expensive or meal. Arctic is consumer type of thing. That's police departments. That law enforcement. That's police pardons law enforcement. That's actually something. That's not as is prevalent at the moment it's where we're moving towards Connected Holsters are becoming more prevalent but the connected firearms or something. That that you'll see more of I think the next five to ten years. That is so super interesting. I mean it's we are literally putting computers inside of everything and my dad. It is well robocop role but so think about this. United Lisa spent a long time of my life in Illinois. Where tollways were sort of thing that you just grew drop in? Drop your forty cents and drive away and then it became a hey. It's going to be eighty cents unless you get this transponder which will automatically deduct and so people were like. I'm not not getting those because they'll be able to track. I'm thinking to myself you. How do you think they know when you go through and essentially blow the toll right? They capture your license plate. They already know where you're going. And then think about all the insurance companies adding the little plug INS. That'll tell you have accelerometers the have been able to interface with the EU how faster driving you had a gps to be able to tell whether you're over under the speed limit. Like that is a level of connectedness. I'm not ENJ- tiredly sure. Our generations quite ready for yet. I don't know if I don't know if the current generation is but I can tell you millennials and generation Z.. Are Beyond just. The transformer is a really good example. But if you look at look at the vehicles out there now the connected vehicles the number of computers in my in my truck is insane and Our our CEO. Sit On sage at enterprise world and said that BMW is taking the data that they're in an and they could honestly probably give you better underwriting than leading insurance company because they understand driver's habits just based on based on the amount of data that goes in the cars and from a privacy perspective. We're buying the vehicle consenting and it's it's really giving giving up that data so that's another great example of weird technology and policy policy hasn't quite kept kept up yet and understanding. Okay who's right now. That data belongs to BMW or whoever the car manufacturers actor is a tesla or somebody who's really belong to and let's let's have that discussion well so there's a there's A. There's a party glad that my favorite car that I drive mostly every day is a six speed manual with the only thing that's `electronic on it is the EU and the Bluetooth connected to my to my phone. I want music right but it's very rudimentary and it's not as far as I know not tracking me that much. 'CAUSE I suspect my insurance rates would my company has something to say about the driving. Sometimes stuff is less likely to break that way too well right and and you know it's kind of funny my dad as I was looking to buy a new car one of the things he that he's like. You know. I guess you guys nowadays you know you buying computers with wheels and I thought about that for a second. I went through the car lot. I was like okay that the thing has you know. A hundred two hundred mini miniaturized computers with sensors. And everything else accelerometers all that right it's Scott it's a it's a data driven world and I think the investigator has so much more access to An Ability L. D. to to paint a bigger picture. So you know you from investigators perspective right you can tell from my smartwatch where I've been potentially what time I pass away that I that I drove really fast and broke a pattern. Accelerated hard broke hard right and all the stuff that I don't do like there's a big picture you can draw draw here. That's a good. That's a good point to make as we kind of cut. It rather stop is a everything in you tie back to. Consumer Iot devices is law enforcement IOT devices and you do. You can paint that three hundred sixty degree picture the connected vehicle tells you speeds. GPS etc your watch can tell you you time of death all that type of stuff. The incident report And and the video footage from either the the TV cameras cameras were the body cameras etcetera or if it or to domestic dispute or something there was just a case with Alexa. Yeah and so you. You have the data there so a ring doorbells. A great example ring has a partnership with with police departments that they can tap into that footage to kind of create. Take that to to create that type of surveillance so you can really paint a picture very differently than you could even even five years ago but especially twenty years ago so I can imagine at my brain again. I I grew up in the seventies and eighties but my brain is gets very dystopia being very quickly in this in this conversation but you it is clear that the abilities to keep people safe and to paint a picture picture for what it. What if the technology and everything is rained properly and police properly no pun intended with the proper policy and privacy measures in place that this this is a fantastic advance? Here there are some really good advancements and again it's it's making sure everything's used for good instead of evil. That's the idea so I'll ask one more question because now I'm curious it does with all this data that we talked about the spirit systems. My watch my phone. My car the cameras on the street lights that holster the body cam the at the toll booth all that. It is it as an investigator or are you stuck pulling all that together on your own right now. So at least that the ingestion of it. Yes but if you have that single data repository that's where or you can really deploy some type of Ai Platform to help you sort through it. Most of the data that comes through. And you'd be surprised some that. Even even I would think of structured data is unstructured it's upwards of like eighty percent of the data that comes in from IOT devices is unstructured a meath especially the sound sound clips clips video clips etc.. There's no taxonomy on them so being able to to search them having a engines huge advantage. So that's that's why I think you're going to see more Proliferation of especially within law enforcement especially within government even at the FBI level DOJ level. Dod Above all right one last question because it seems like it'd be the person to know is the is the field staff. The police officers investigators. Do they have the the Knowledge in training currently The pro are the programs existing to get them up to speed with all the technology. Or because I I kind of felt like the court system You know the public safety offices are were way way way behind for so many years that that's how we could probably do an entire podcast cast on that one of the things that I usually say when I speak is we can't forget the people involved oftentimes in we're just as guilty of it being being a technology company. We focus so much on the technology. Because it's a true game changer. But without without the relationship between the people that are deploying deploying it the culture involved you hit a keyword the education involved it. You're not truly going to transform how. Oh you're how you're doing it so to answer your question. I think it. You'd have to go from municipality to municipality or even at the national level to figure out what programs they have in place. He's I don't think you're going to see it consistent. That's what scares me. Yeah exactly but just like the level of technologies and consistent with the idea though is that you bring the two imbalance and I think that's an important piece of it all right Brian. This has been a fascinating discussion. Let you go get on your plane but thanks for joining us. Thank you all right folks. Thanks for listening. That was a fascinating fascinating romp through Some very very interesting topics I'll get delegate. Some show notes put together. And we'll find out where to get Brian on twitter or otherwise so you can ask them questions if anybody's got any but thanks for listening We'll bring you back war content soon on another rabbit hole podcast Chow it is. We've bathed out on another down the security rabbit hole episode. We'd like to encourage you to chat with our hosts and guests using the Hashtag Pound D. T. S. police. Check out the show notes catch up on episodes may have missed and subscribe. So you've don't Miss. Our website is white. 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CNN: Man arrested in mail bombs in mail bombs identified as Cesar Sayoc; Bomb suspect had "CNN sucks" sign at Trump rally; First look at mail bomb suspect since arrest; Trump makes first comments since mail bomb arrest

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CNN: Man arrested in mail bombs in mail bombs identified as Cesar Sayoc; Bomb suspect had "CNN sucks" sign at Trump rally; First look at mail bomb suspect since arrest; Trump makes first comments since mail bomb arrest

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We begin with the breaking news authorities charging fifty six year old Caesar Sanca, Florida with five federal crimes in connection to the thirteen explosive packages discovered this week law enforcement tracking him down from a fingerprint and DNA found on the packages. The director of the FBI Christopher Wray today, affirming that those were real they were not a hoax among the charges threats against former presidents, the criminal charging document, accusing sake of transporting quote, an explosive with the knowledge and intent that it would be used to kill injure and intimidate individuals. They say the suspect quote knowingly and willfully threatened to kill and inflict bodily harm upon a former president and a member of the immediately family of a former president essay was not known to secret service prior to this. But he does have a criminal history, which notably includes a two thousand to arrest by Miami police were apparently he threatened to blow up a Florida. A utility company saying it would be quote worse than September eleventh. According to the police report at the time earlier today say van was seized by law enforcement that van features on its side and its windows. Celebrate Ori images of President Donald Trump and vice President Mike Pence and disparaging images of President Trump's perceived enemies, including a CNN sucks sticker on the side of the van CNN being an intended recipient of two of the devices sent through the mail a list of intended recipients that is entirely made up of individuals whom President Trump has attacked and demonized repeatedly critics of the president, including Hillary Clinton to former democratic presidents members of congress, and the Obama administration billionaire financier, George Soros and actor Robert deniro. The president insists that his rhetoric has had no influence or played any role in the bombings. Let's get right to CNN senior investigative correspondent drew Griffin live outside the FBI field office in Florida, Andrew authorities just minutes ago underlying. Again, these are not hopes devices. These are real. Absolutely not containing all the components or most of the components of a real bomb, including potentially explosive material unknown at this point is if they could have detonated, we do know that the FBI brought this person in for questioning say, okay, we believe he was questioned here. At least briefly quantitive initially telling investigators, he didn't intend to blow up anybody or hurt. Anybody? He since gotten a lawyer, Jake and the questioning has stopped. Tonight with authorities believe they have the person responsible for at least a dozen package bombs discovered. All across the US each device consisted of roughly six inches of PVC pipe, a small clock a battery some wiring, and what is known as energetic material, which is essentially potential explosives and material that give off heat and energy through a reaction to heat shock or friction Fifty-six-year-old Caesar Sayek is in federal custody arrested in south Florida. Authorities also impounding this white fan taking every precaution. Unaware of what maybe inside yet? We just took him in. Yeah. We just took him into custody. Referencing. Oh, forty six and. Down. And then we're evacuating that van covered in political stickers with images of President Donald Trump targets on President Obama and others as well as a sticker saying CNN sucks here. He is at a Trump campaign rally last year holding a sign saying the same thing sack social media accounts feature numerous postings from Trump rallies, and countless more about politics the various accounts read like a target list for those who've received package bombs this week. He trolls President Obama tweeting about Bobby Kennedy with photos disparaging the Kennedy family, he mocks vice president Biden's nine eleven message with a photo of his Delaware, home and pictures that suggest firebombing it. He blames former attorney general Eric Holder for the murder of border patrol agent. Brian Terry, even threatening death. He vilifies, California congresswoman, Maxine Waters, tweeting bad memes and encouraging his like minded followers to attend an event. With her in California, a denier of the parkland high school shooting massacre Sayaka accuses democratic fundraiser George Soros for funding a cover up and paying students like David Hogg to pretend they were victims and public records show Sayek had an extensive criminal record dating back as far as nineteen Ninety-one. The most notable offense a two thousand to charge of threatened to discharge a destructive device at a Florida utility company. Just recently a package addressed to democratic donor. Tom star was found in California and earlier today. One intended for former director of national intelligence James Clapper, addresses CNN in New York was intercepted at a New York facility. And another addressed New Jersey Senator Kerry Booker was found in Florida. And Jake Sayaka apparently was living in his van kicked out of the home of his parents. And that's where thirties found him in that van apparently living on the streets here in south, Florida. Jake van festooned with the carnage collage for Griffin, thanks so much. What's discuss all of this? With our loan experts fill the criminal complaint identifies these devices as improvised explosive devices, Ryan dis FBI director Ray described them in detail, not hoaxes. That's right. Not only not hoax is if you look at the number of them in the potential that if any one of them would have gone off you're talking about individual targets, but if that's an a mail room, there's multiple people who are at risk here. The other thing I'd point out as if that if this subject weren't caught in terms of the latte, the fact that these weren't hoaxes in that individuals watching the news in deciding I want to amp this up you cannot guarantee me over time that someone who has the intent to hurt people as witnessed by his sending whatever it is fourteen. Fifteen devices wouldn't have transitioned over time. Said okay now as he threatened to do as you talked about earlier as he threatened to do in Florida before he might have anted up. Instead, I'm gonna change my game in the devices are going to get more lethal. Thank God, they got him now. Because once he switched on. I think this could have gone ugly. Uglier absolutely Josh Campbell all of the individuals targeted. Our democratic leaders or high profile critics of the president packages to Clapper and Brennan were sent to them care of CNN, which the president has singled out for particular criticism. We saw what's believed to be his van covered with images of President Trump in a salvo, Tori, fashion, political stickers. It seems clear and the attorney general set is much that this was politically motivated in all likelihood it does seem that way. Jake, and we've been saying from the beginning, noting these commonalities in the target said, you have Democrats progressives people who have received a lot of IRA from the president both in rallies on Twitter. So there are a lot of commonalities there. Obviously, you know, until we know fully the motive of the person, actually. Midst to what was going through his mind or investigators, at least have some kind of comfort level to be able to come out and say, this is our assessment, we won't know for sure, but it was interesting actually from that press conference today to keep wants you mentioned one of them. The fact that the FBI director saying that this is not a hoax, which kind of, you know, blast past these idea this notion that this is some type of false flag, or you know, other other theories that were out there. But the second part is what attorney general sessions said as you mentioned he said this person appears to be a partisan, which is an incredible thing to say because that's him coming out into sensually confirming a lot of us have been suspecting. And as you mentioned Lashley that van is going to be a lot of there's a lot of key evidence there when you try to get into the mindset just look at those images, again, we can't draw a line through all of these data points, but they all seem to be leading in one direction, and every this isn't necessarily over. He was charged with thirteen ED packages. But FBI director Christopher Wray acknowledged there could be more intrinsic right now. Yes. Absolutely. That's absolutely, correct. So you we everyone's going to be on the lookout now to see are there any other? Packages and people are on edge. You know, people who are actually out there in vocal about how they feel politically. And so there's concern. So you US postal service will be out there looking for these. I think also celebrities and certain people have been vocal there'll be more concerned about their mail as well. And I think it's going to be a collective effort as far as even the US secret service protectees they have being really thorough, and what is coming into the mail, and as well politicians capitol police, I think this is going to be a collective effort on all law enforcement part to work effectively to make sure that we are able to detect any devices that could be coming in. So this is not over yet. The criminal complaint clearly lays out how similar these packages were the same as spellings same number of the same stamps. So there was a a clear pattern. There was I mean, I want to hold off for a moment here when you look at that kind of information you're going to draw back and say, especially given the number of clues this person left behind maybe they weren't that sophisticated but until I see everything from a cell phone. A laptop social media accounts, even whether this person participated in sort of clubs. I can't guarantee you that the simplicity those packages the fact that they all look like they're made by the same person. I wouldn't guarantee yet maybe tomorrow that nobody else knew about that. So in addition to talking about what just happened Jake? We gotta make sure for at least a few more hours were confident that there's no more out there. But also that nobody else knew about that. I wouldn't guarantee that yet. And Josh this man had prior criminal background the secret service said they'd never heard of him before. But Miami police did there's a two thousand to arrest you threaten to blow up utility companies saying it would be worse than September eleventh, obviously. Simpson's -nificant. Absolutely. It's really really painting a picture of someone here who's troubled who's had running law enforcement. And it also shows how advanced law enforcement has come because if you read through the criminal complaint, actually, there was DNA was taken from one of the devices that was compared to the FBI is a repository of criminal history and his DNA was actually collected back when he was arrested in the past. And that was one of the ways that they were able to I. Identified this match. So obviously, you know, trouble person who's had a run in with law enforcement. It really tells us what we're dealing with here. One thing. That's interesting Jake is at that press conference. We did not hear the T-word terrorism you at least as of this point. We don't have our ficials saying that this is domestic terrorism that could change at any moment. So perhaps it's too soon to retool much into that. But again, this appears to be someone at least based on the tally of what we know. Now, at least in the public domain who was acting based on some type of political motivation, which that's the definition of terrorism. It'll be interesting to see whether the Justice apartment actually moves forward along those lines and heavy we're told this man was not known to the secret service where used you used to work is that unusual now, and that's not unusual because they have to make an actual threat or so show some type of unusual int interest and someone that we're protecting. So he's never done that in the past. Then there would be no reason for him to come up in the US secret service radar. So that has to Kerr for the US secret service to know about an individual. But of course, you can surely bet that there. To be looking through video footage data. They're gonna wanna know has this person been around our protectees in the past has he come, you know, how many rallies has he come to has? He been can we, you know, multiple sightings in in different areas or events is he'd been following any of our protectees around. So they're going to actually look into this to see historically, if this is somebody that maybe did slip through the cracks or they didn't notice, and then they're going to ramp this up because another thing you're going to be concerned about is this now something that other people are going to get the idea like maybe I should be doing this. You know, the copycats and that, and so I think everybody is going to be ramped up at this point. And really be looking at something like this and historically US secret services, always looking at packages, but the protects these that we do have Phil Jake Jake on this issue of copycats. Nobody's talking about it. But that is the first thing that sprung to mind for me. I remember being at the at the White House on the anthrax letters time period back in the fall of two thousand one and then I shifted over the bureau shifted to the bureau four years later, and they were still receiving and responding. To copycat anthrax letters four years later now most of it or none of it as I recall was anthrax, but people just got white powder. I thought we saw one of these instances with one of these devices there might have been powder associated with it. But my point is there are people out there. Energized people who will look at this maybe people who are a little bit mentally unbalanced and say he had the courage to do it. I've been waiting for years. Maybe I should have the courage to do it as well. We're not out of the woods yet here. Let's hope not an an certainly not courageous to send anonymous packages to people you don't like, thanks one and all for being here. New information about the troubling pass to the suspect including multiple arrests one involving a threat to blow up something making it worse than nine eleven according to a police report. Plus, we're gonna talk to the former director of national intelligence General James Clapper, who was one of the intended targets of the bomber is we just found out this morning. Stay with us. You know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. But you know, what is smart ZipRecruiter dot com slash tapper. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you. Zip Recruiter finds them for you. It's powerful matching. Technology scans thousands of resumes identifies people with the right skills education and experience and actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. No, more sorting through the wrong resumes. No more waiting for the right candidates to apply. 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Renee, March has been digging into his background and renting is Twitter account is filled with attacks on a lot of the same people. He sent packages to including CNN exactly I mean, extremely political social media account and to your point Jaiqi has negative tweets pretty much for every target who was sent one of those packages. We do want to warn you some of these tweets are highly offensive, but we are showing them simply because we want to give you a sense of what we're learning about this. Aspect? So here's some of his tweets after former President Obama posting a medium with Obama's head on his wife's body amino of Hillary Clinton being arrested by the president and the vice president with the caption law and order that you see there in the middle. He even accuses democratic fundraiser George Soros of working with Hitler. I mean, it goes on and on. But again CNN is tweeted as well, you know, when you go through you can see certainly does have a political leaning the criminal complaint even points out his use of social media and just a couple of days after that package suspicious package was discovered and recovered from George sources house. He was also tweeting tweeting negative tweets about Soros, Obama and others. We do know he also had a Facebook presence as well in Facebook confirms to CNN that users complained about some of those posting they actually removed some of those posts, but they say. It didn't rise to the level of calling thirties. But we know that he registered for the first time in Florida to vote in two thousand and sixteen he voted in two thousand sixteen election, and he re registered as a Republican. But again, Jake on his Twitter, you can see as a strong supporter of President Trump. He tweets at real Donald Trump several times, even wishing him. Happy birthday, obviously, he was actually trying to get the approval of President Trump and some of the tweets that he sent to the president. In addition to this huge social media footprint, at least two Twitter accounts and on Facebook. He had a police record one of his arrests in two thousand two I believe it was for threatening to blow up a Florida utility quote worse in September eleventh. Yeah. So yeah. I mean, we spent some time going through his background as well. And I mean, he has a strain of criminal events going back to the early nineteen nineties, but the most notable is that one in two thousand and two that you bring up their Miami police say they arrested him because. He made a bomb threat. His attorney actually spoke to CNN and said that he grew frustrated with this electric company because they turned off his power. And when he got so frustrated that they wouldn't turn it back on he threatened to blow them up m quoting his attorney. Now, he says that Caesar saieed said, quote, I bet if I threaten to blow up your office you turn it back on. I do want to note that this attorney says that he didn't believe that there was any teeth. And there was no no he didn't plan or any intention to actually pull that off. Nevertheless, attorney confirms. He says that he said that other things showing up in his criminal history. Everything from grand theft battery fraud and drug possession. Do we know anything about his financial situation or where he lived? We do know that in two thousand twelve he did file for bankruptcy and in going through those filings. It lists that he lived with his mom, and he owns no furniture. It seems like he was in financial straits. Because it also says that he owned he owed almost seventeen thousand dollars in debt. So he owed a lot of money and could not make the payments, and that that's all the information that we have in his bankruptcy filing. But again, I mean, we see how everything unfolded today. But to your point earlier authorities in Florida were familiar with him because this man had many run ins with them. All right, Rene Marsh. Thank you so much. Joining me now is the former director of national intelligence under President Obama retired General James Clapper who was one of the intended recipients of an explosive device. One of the ones found this morning care of CNN. It was it was not delivered general thanks for joining us as put on your director of national intelligence hat for a second. What are the most pressing questions? You have right now. Well, I think the first thing is are there any other packages out there? And I'm sure that's what he's being asked about. And is there anyone else involved or was he alone actor so to me, those would be the two key questions that I would want to pursue. And I'm sure they are being pursued. So given that he was arrested really just a few hours ago. We know a lot about him, partly because of his social media prevent footprint, partly because of his bankruptcy filing. His criminal record given all that. We've learned what sticks out to you. The most. Well, what sticks out to me is phenomenal work done by or law enforcement community. Most prominently the FBI who is taking some hits on fairly. So and once again, they have shown demonstrated their tremendous dedication and professionalism as well as a great New York police department of secret service and some unsung heroes and heroines in the United States postal service. And I think about those people those great men and women and what they did to to turn this around this quickly. And I sure take shirts from that. And I think all Americans should. Yeah. I'm into that. No doubt. I'm sources tell CNN that when the suspect was arrested. He told investigators that the pipebombs wouldn't have heard anyone and that he didn't want to hurt. Anyone? Do you buy it? What what do you? What does it tell you about his motives? Well, that's as one of the potential recipients. Let me tell you. It is not a fun thing to turn on the television and see a pipe bomb. Whether it's functional or not address to you. So I take an aq- from direct raise comments at the press conference that these devices were not hoaxes and that they could have been activated. You said you weren't surprised when a package intended for you was discovered this morning was that just because your colleague former CIA director John Brennan had been sent one. What what was the reason? That was principally. The reason I figured that John got one I wouldn't be far behind in light of these packages. We know federal agencies are now reviewing the security protocols involving former cabinet level and other high profile officials, do you think the level of security around you and others like you needs to change. Do you need secret service protection twenty four seven? Well. Either. John Reid got our protection from secret service. But I'm sure that's something that will be under review. I I'll be candid. I don't feel particularly threatened right now. I I haven't gauged with my former protective detail, and I think the actions they took are sensible and prudent now whether there should be something more elaborate, that's that'll be up to them to judge. Of course, when you do these things that this has huge resource implications that will have to be considered as well. Now that we know who the suspect is, and we know that from all appearances and from what attorney general sessions says he's a partisan. He's a strong supporter of President Trump. You see a social media profile, you see the stickers and the signs that he's held that that are hostile to people who are in the Obama administration hostile the CNN hostile the George Soros and others. Do you? Hold President Trump. And his rhetoric accountable in any way in any way of for this threat. Well for Jake. I think I have to say that you cannot relate anything that the president is said or done directly to the actions that this guy took and we won't, you know, maybe that will come out later, and what just exactly what his motivations were. And what inspired him to to take? These extraordinarily actions. I do think though that all politicians are responsible for toning down the rhetoric where possible and first among those politicians is the president United States who occupies the most influential bully pulpit, not only in this country. But in the world. And you can accuse other people saying extreme things, but really the leadership for this starts with the president United States. So he has to set the tone. All right, retired general former director of national intelligence, James Clapper. Thanks so much for your time. We're glad you're safe, sir. Thanks for joining us. Thanks, jack. A closer look at what was on the outside of the suspects van and what that might be telling investigators about the suspects, motives, stay with us. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Xeni dot com. With the latest trends in eyewear available in hundreds of frame styles and materials there isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus is any offers prescription sunglasses at incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's Z E N N, I dot com slash CNN. Breaking news new video just in to CNN giving us our first look at the mail. Bombing suspect Cesar say since his arrest. It's a perp walk. You're looking at him being escorted by law enforcement from F B I headquarters in Miramar, Florida. He has a criminal history with eight arrests dating back to the early nineteen nineties Caesar say on he faces up to forty eight years in prison for the five federal crimes charged today. We're back with this breaking news story in a major piece of evidence in the case against the suspect charts today this van where we now know Caesar say I was living. It was adored with stickers and posters, supporting President Trump and vice president pants and democratic opponents with targets over their faces. CNN's Tom foreman is at the magic wall. And Tom the vans quite conspicuous. And it might actually be important when it comes to the law enforcement investigation as to motive. Yeah. And it certainly a track. Acted the attention of people who may not have noticed him on social media. But right down the road. You could see them anytime you went by and some people were so interested in this actually stopped and took photographs of it and put it online saying look at this. I've seen this truck here. Let's look at this front window and some of the details of that window. If you see it here, you can see that the top is basically support for Mike Pence and Donald Trump that whole team there. The second line sort of inexplicably is mainly about sports all of there's some reference to Trump in there, but it has to do with a boxing match, and that sort of thing. But then when you get to the bottom part here, Jake, that's when you start getting into the really sort of nasty stuff this corner down here. That's where he's the crosshairs on Hillary Clinton on a picture of Barack Obama on a tricycle on the filmmaker. Michael Moore on Jill Stein from the green party from our own van Jones here about CNN and other images that have a very sharp since these people somehow need to be targeted in some matter. And then beyond that if you go to the to the other image in this other window down here. You can see again a whole amalgam of things support for the president up here. Then some motions over here about abortion rights. The Seminole tribe is mentioned numerous times by this man, and then their religious references support for the military and then down here again general support for America and a series of country music singers there, it's very interesting to look at this Jake because clearly even if you're looking at the van windshield, you can see this tremendous amount of clutter up here. This was a sort of thing that was drawing attention of passersby even before all of this began enough that some of them the moment, they sought said, yeah, I've seen that vehicle. Jane found former thanks so much one law enforcement official telling CNN that the suspect was initially cooperating with investigators and told them he didn't want to hurt anyone seen as Evan Perez joins me now and Evan is still cooperating. And what else have you learned Jake? He is no longer cooperating. He's retained an attorney. So he's no longer talking to the FBI. But initially he did talk. To them a little bit. And said that he did not ex didn't believe that these these devices would have heard anyone he didn't intend certainly to hurt anyone. But obviously, that's not the way law enforcement is taking this. They worked very hard over the last twenty four thirty six hours and some of the key things, according to the criminal complaint that we now see so confirm some of the reporting we had earlier today, which includes that at least two of the I two of these bombs the FBI was able to recover DNA that they believe belong to Sayaka. So that was very key in this investigation. That's something the F B I had in its possession. Another thing was a fingerprint from one of the packages of one of the bombs that was sent to Maxine Waters congresswoman that was also very key. According to this criminal complaint that the Justice department has filed so a lot more investigative work. This case is not over for this agents that are still working this. Because obviously they want to know a little bit more about what was his motivation, whether or not there's still anymore packages out there. We know that there's one that was being investigated today. That would address the Tom star who's a democratic fundraiser donor. So a lot more work for the for the investigation to come Jake. All right. Evan breast. Thanks so much. Phil me bring back my law enforcement panel that Phil start with you Caesar's saying he also threatened to you and your family on Twitter. Hey, did I now let me be coli analytic here last hours tough? I had to call my family and tell them this was going to break today that this man threatened me with death on Twitter. I didn't I was not aware of that. You know, we are correct in general Clapper's. Correct. Let me repeat it. So we ensure that we understand what question we're asking. The question is not whether the president I'd states is responsible for a disturbed human being who threatens an act of murder that is not on the table. Of course, the president is not I'm an analyst though. So instead of getting emotional let me go cold when fifty thousand one hundred thousand Q hundred thousand people go to rallies when millions of people. Watch you on the screen if you threaten people some of those individuals, maybe one thousand to one percent are going to take you seriously. The question is whether the president takes risk off the table by stopping threats on social media. It's not whether we hold him responsible for the acts of deranged person, stop threatening people because the implications are people like me have to call their family and say thank God. He's in prison because otherwise maybe he shows up at my house. Josh what what are the biggest clues as an an investigator? You would take away when looking at that van. So, you know, we've talked about the commonality so far in the target said now, obviously now we have this these disturbing messages on social media. But the van itself there's what we can see from the outside. Obviously a lot of the messaging that we see there on the pictures a lot of political paraphernalia on the side. You know, the CNN sucks, you know, again, it's painting this portrait of someone whose views appear at least in line with some of the invective that we've seen. From the president and others going after our network going after you know, other politicians so that seems to be in line. The question Jake is going to be what's inside. And that is if investigators actually find evidence that you know, the bombs were to transport it or perhaps assembled in that vehicle. There's some question as far as whether the subject actually lived inside the vehicle one question. I had is we see the swat offers officers. They're transporting it. I find it difficult to believe that they would quickly transport vehicle that contained evidence of explosives in it. So again, there's a lot. We don't know that will be processed. But there's a looming question as far as where the devices were actually assembled, and then we're the mailing was actually done. And then the last question, Jake, which may come from an interview with the subject, and may come from other evidences are there other devices out there, and it'd be number ways of educators? We'll be able to determine that. But until that final determination has made. They're not going to give the all clear. I was wondering that too heavy. Let me ask you how concerned with law enforcement be that not only there could be explosive material in the van, but the van could be rigged with explode. I think that before they decided to transport the van that they would check the van and make sure that there's nothing in there that could detonate like those are that's just standard protocol. You're gonna make sure that before you move anything where have even before you enter a house or a residence you're gonna make sure everything is rendered safe that there's nothing there that could go off. And so I'm pretty sure that they followed that protocol before they decided to transport the van you probably right, Phil. What what do you think law enforcement is doing right now to determine how long this has been planned his operational capability? Whether others are involved, what we had the first indication that he was speaking initially, those questions aren't about what happened I'm guessing those questions about imminent threat. Are there other bombs out there are there people who participated in this with you? We heard that he lawyer it up, and so I presume he's not speaking anymore. But as soon as they gain gain access to that van, I've also we we had a report on a cellphone his cell phone ping, which help them. I defy his location. I want to know every contact on that list. I want to know text messaging records, I wanna talk to his fans. Family. I want to look at it social media posts not only to look at who he communicated with Jake. But to see if he participated in a community of people that not only might have encouraged him, but that might be encouraging other people you can build and short network of understanding around someone's life using that digital profile really quickly. Josh a lawyer who represented say told CNN that he wasn't surprised that the device is suspected and accused of assembling and mailing. Did not explode EA question. His former clients ability to successfully devise an execute such a steam, obviously, a such a scheme, obviously, say initially told law enforcement that they were never intended to go off. Does it matter? Whether these devices were capable of detonating, it doesn't in the long run because it's still terrorism. Now, a lot of people, you know, we we've heard folks trying to analyze this over the last seventy two hours, and there seemed to be a narrative, well, he has to be a master bombmaker or yes to be a complete dolt. I would argue there some somewhere in between is also possible. He could be someone who, you know, at least researches and has a level. Fistican, but perhaps doesn't take it all the way to creating a device it's going to explode and kill. But the reason I say it doesn't matter in the long run here. And obviously, we're we're grateful that there were no injuries or loss of life. But this is still terrorism. His goal appears to a to instill fear to, you know, causing Zayed's for political reasons that is terrorism. So whether they went off or not he still facing potential serious charges in the long run, Jay. So we've been digging into the suspect social media accounts, which are filled with political attacks many directed at those eventually allegedly targeted with these devices. I want to focus on just a couple one of them is is a reply to President Trump. President Trump criticizing the media and on August thirtieth and President Trump tweeted, I just cannot strongly enough. How totally dishonest much of the media is truth doesn't matter to them. They only have their hatred and agenda. This include fake books. What's come out about me? All the time. Always anonymous sources and are pure fiction enemy of the people now that the suspect. These are saying reply directly to that tweet from the president saying CNN socks holding up. A with a posted photograph of him holding up a sign that said CNN sucks in another tweet the suspect replied to CNN tweet, the CNN tweet shows CNN's chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta and the briefing room asking Sarah Sanders, please say that the the press is at the enemy of the American people and say axiom St. replies to that Sweden. And he seems to threaten the cost of our own White House correspondent writing quote, see at the next rally Evy, let let me ask you. I mean, I'm not a law enforcement official. And obviously as this has been said by plenty of other people the bomber is responsible for his actions. No one else is responsible for his actions. But that really does seem like somebody who really wants to to take cues from the president wants the president's approval. And that I assume is something that people are considering when they're trying to figure out motive. You know, we've been talking about this, and I've been with the various presidents both former and current President Barack Obama, and when you go to these rallies, and there's there's sometimes tens of thousands of people and people get revved up. I mean, this is a very influential position a person, and when somebody like that of that level speaks sometimes people take that in the listen to it like, they take it to heart, and you can see people getting obsessed with the individual. And that's where you know as an agent, we would get individuals who would show up to the White House. Right. These letters. I mean, this is something very common for us in our line of work. Because people almost think like, yes, he speaking to me, he's addressing me. And so, you know, yes, your words do matter. You do affect other individuals in the way you speak. And it's something that you have to be very careful with when you are on that level. And then also Jay us. Oh don't know how everybody's going to receive that message that we have individuals without a lot of mental health issues who can hear that message. And we don't know the current state of the. That we have we don't know his mental health. We do know he has a criminal record. But then there's concern there because we see this. There's nothing really he wasn't very quiet about what he did you see his van? It's very ostentatious with all these stickers out there his previous history his threats about making a bomb. So it'd be really really interesting to find out what his mental health stance is what he's done in the past. And what the people around him interviews. We'll be really really important even though he may not be talking interviewing family friends. Previous co workers anybody like that to get as much information on him as possible. Can I just quickly add a caveat? Just very quickly to what you were saying as far as the the bomber is responsible solely for his actions. Let me add one caveat there. If I can that is we should hold elected leaders to a different standard. If you look at this as any other type of crime, you don't just go after the climate self you go after the underlining cause and if that is an elected official, spewing invective, then that they bear some responsibility. Okay. Josh and. Evie and Phil thanks so much. President Trump just spoke about the mail bomb suspect more on his reaction next. Hey, Howard Beck. And I've got Sam amick of the s Lennick on Bleacher reports the full forty eight Lakers for me would be the panic side on the negative and then positive wise. I think Denver looking at they do, you know is than tremendous fun to watch. You know, you'll get your star you wrote finish ended the piece on last season and everything they have going for the full forty eight now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts and Spotify. News now, President Trump just spoke on the south lawn of the White House. He's on his way to a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina this evening. He spoke about the suspect charged with federal crimes for mailing at least thirteen I e we will bring you those remarks as soon as they come in CNN's Kaitlan Collins joins me now from the White House and Kaelin. What do we know about what the president said? Well, it came out there. Of course, Jake the first subject on this was the development in this case. Now, the suspect has been apprehended, we know President Trump prays law enforcement, all speaking to reporters out there. He asked also made a few remarks about his own rhetoric. He told reporters out there that he believes he has already toned down his rhetoric likely reference to that rally that we saw in Wisconsin whenever he was saying much different things than we typically hear from his rallies in light of the focus on what he has said. Now that all of this is coming out. He was asked about whether or not he has anything to say about this person clearly identifying himself with President Trump being a supporter of his and appearing in his rally. It's unclear exactly what he said. It's really hard to hear out there with Marine One chopper in the background, but will likely here that soon, but one interesting he did bring up was that baseball shooting where the house majority whip Steve Scalise was shot. That is something that President Trump brought up while speaking with these reporters, clearly something he's been talking about lately about the division in the country something that he has not taken any responsibility for but instead blamed reporters for but clearly he brought that up essentially saying that there is violence also against Republicans as well. I think we've. I'm going to interrupt you because we have that sound from the president. Let's listen in. Law enforcement the having done an incredible job. The FBI keep shoving so many. I mean, they just got together and did it fit like finding a needle in the haystack? So I want to congratulate them as you know, what everybody wants to congratulate them. But they did a vendetta governor. I'm going to North Carolina right now. It's raining job. You don't mind I'll step out of the rain, but I really very proud of law. I did not to my face on the bed. I dunno. I heard you was a person that referred me over others. But I did not see that. No doubt at all. No. No, that's. Don't blame. There's no anything. You look at what happened Steve Scalise that was a supporter of the different Bharti. You look at what happened. Support yourself. I'm just really proud of law enforcement. I think they did an incredible job. And I will see you in North Carolina. No, I don't think. So I think that they were running a great campaign people love what we're doing. They love. What was saying? Republicans had tremendous momentum blitzes happened where all people talked about. What that Ed rightfully? So it was a big thing rightfully so. But now we have to start the moment to begin. I think the Republicans have tremendous from that we think of judge cabin. And hopefully, we're going to go on a great victory. We have a lot of Senate races where we're leading racist. And frankly will going to be uncontested like relating a lot of those rights. How a lot of people in the house. So we're gonna see how that goes. But I think we're doing very well. They wanted me to. But I think we'll probably thank you. Well, I think I've been tone you want to know the truth, I could really coat it up because as you know, the media's been extremely unfair to me and did the Republican party. I think the media has been very very unfair Durham's up the Republican party and the way it's been covered. And they understand that they write articles about that many of them at bid that. But the media has been unbelievably unfair to Republicans to head certainly. But with all of that being said, we're winning. So I like that. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Let's let's talk about this with our panel. Amanda carpenter. You heard the president yet again an opportunity to to take some ownership for the rhetoric and passing on the opportunity. I no longer has to say about this. I think after all these incidents. We always ask was the perpetrator mentally ill. Or what happened? I think in this scenario, we need to ask was he just unstable enough to believe that things that the president says and then act on it. Because if that's the case, if you believe the press is that many of the people Hillary Clinton is evil, and there's a deep state undermining the country pipebombs become your weapon of choice rather than words. And so he's on his way to another rally, and I want Republicans to ask themselves. If you're in that crowd, and you see a sign like that targets is this atmosphere that makes America great again because I think it clearly has made us less safe. And you heard a secret service agent was on the show earlier talking about when you cover these rallies. How seriously people in the audience many of them take the words coming from the politician? It's such a powerful position you can inspire. You can you can stoke fear. You can do anything really if you're that. If there's that much ambulation exactly I was actually on the president's campaign. Swing through. The western states over the weekend. And you there's always that moment in the rallies where he turns to us sitting in the back, and you taking notes and says look at the fake news media back there and the entire crowd boos at you. I mean, this is a crowd that adores Trump listens to what he says. So the president's words really do matter. And it'll be really interesting to see how we approach is that rhetoric in Charlotte later tonight weird statement by the president. And he's started off as he often does with something that sounded prepared right something. We don't often hear the president say praising the FBI what he didn't include in that sort of prepared section was a further condemnation now that we have a suspect of condemnation of the suspect of the alleged ax. And what's you know, what happens next look at his statement compared to the law enforcement officials that spoke earlier in the day. And then as the conversation continues with the press, what does he do he sort of circles to his his his real target, which is unfortunately, the news media, right? So that by the end of that gaggle. He was right back to the media needs to take more responsibility. And look, I don't I don't think president nobody's responsible for sending bombs except the person who sent the bombs, right? But he does not. He just will not rep get wrapped around his head that his rhetoric can help create an atmosphere where someone thinks it's okay. It was interesting. He spoke earlier today. He condemned. It didn't mention CNN or the individuals who had been sent the devices and then in that same event after he called for unity, somebody yelled out CNN socks. He was talking about poll CNN socks, and then he talked about globalist somebody yelled out George Soros, somebody sold lock them up. There's allusions to three of the people that were sent right? Yeah. Well, it's you know, he brings up trying to compare this to the con- the congressional shooting, and it's it's not the same thing. And the reason is not the same thing is that this was just a who's who's list of enemies of Donald Trump. So you this is where this person got these ideas. I'm sorry. There's. No other person that is is obsessed with hating CNN than Donald Trump like pre Donald Trump that just wasn't a thing. I guess people had feelings about CNN, but it wasn't an obsession. And so that this person was so focused on CNN, and so focused on all the people that he complains about does make him complicit and he needs to own that. And he needs to you know, to tone down the rhetoric you think he's complicit though because that's that's a strong thing to say and Clamper and mud who had who were threatened by this person. But you're okay standing by that thank you so much our coverage on this. Breaking news story continues. Stay with us. Are you interested in learning how enterprise scale companies drive organic traffic to increase their online visibility than download the of search podcast from the heart of Silicon Valley here? Search metrics Inc. CEO Jordan Kuni as he delivers actionable insights into how to use data to navigate the ever changing blends Cape with Google apple Amazon, the voices of search podcast arm. 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319: CDL Stage 2, Yikes of the Week, Salt Mine, and more

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319: CDL Stage 2, Yikes of the Week, Salt Mine, and more

"Hello and what is up. Welcome to episode three hundred nineteen of the center ring e sports podcast presented by ult- and this is going to be the best episode. Ever we have yikes of the week we are re introducing the salt mine as we highlight Members of the community who are just salty and catch up on cdl as stage two wrapped up and we have the major coming up on thursday. So we'll talk about that today Just to give some time to listen to and as well A packed news to To wrap things up but before we get any of that. Let me tell you about the show. Sponsor alt- e sports u. l. t. e. sports dot com. That's where you need to go Right now as you're listening to the number one east sports podcast you can pick yourself up number one east sports apparel We've mentioned before they've partnered with call of duty pro our cities to have his personal lineup. 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The date april fourth twenty twenty one happy easter to one and all the time nine oh eight. Pm central time. Go ahead and follow us on twitter at the centering and our website. Tea cr dot g g. twitter description also has all the links to our discord as well as patriotic. You feel like being generous in supporting the show like number one listener. Joey did this week so he is honorary official ringer. Even if you just listen. You are a ringer. We don't love you any less if you don't pay to support the show but we do love you more if you do. So there's that my name is tim for this journey into sports and alongside we as always is my best friend. My brown friend my double dip on every christian holiday friend because he's indian but his wife is a christian friend. What's up happy easter buddy. Happy easter to you. Do you feel good. Do you feel good steal up. Don't from the white man's allowed okay because first of all. I'm doing this for my child. More than anything tim okay. He needs to be able to experience both cultures. Oh it's important that i like the lowest. Just i'm trying to be a good parent. I'm trying to do the best. That i can do every day and if double dipping is something i have to do the damn going to do it. You know what touche on you. You turned it on me thank you. That's a very multi. I found a way to use my child in every possible. Scenario known to there is nothing. I cannot use him for at this point Being a little excuse. Yeah hey i knew. Why are you being so tense right now. Are you being so demanding. I have to teach the boy obedience. He needs to know he needs to know. There are rules that you need to follow. No i like it. I love it. I welcome you into the christian holiday. Thank you so. I i even take advantage of work and i can take off. You know obviously the christian holidays already given and then indian holidays. I'm like listen if you do. You really get work for indian holidays. Just the volley unsafe. Because that's the case you're taking off half the calendar year like work. That would be something like work would agree to and then quickly be like. Oh yeah man no problem and then they'd be like looking at a calendar to see how many holidays there are. They'd be like oh. I'm praying to over two hundred. I'd take off for their birthday. Sorry man it's another -nother god's birthday what do you want me to do going to need a day off here trying to teach the kid. Sorry sorry yeah right. It's i. I would want to be at work. Trust me. it's just family. You know family family back at home base. They want me there. What can i say. What can i say Speaking of family we were tea. Cr family we were accepted by riot to do watching parties for v. c. t. stage two. I believe it's all of stage. Two if i checked the email now i'm wrong then. I'm liable for doing that. But if i don't check an email to double check. Ignorance is bliss and we can just do all of stage two. yeah. I think that's what it said staged yes so all of stage two. We are now having permission from riot to do watch parties. So i did one last night. The first of what will be many but we'll take a look at the calendar whenever we have some free time Just expect either a new age or me or both to to hop on watch some valent With you guys will be in discord so feel free to hop in discord if you wanna chat while watching them. The only rule is don't be a dick like that to sum it up. Just don't be a dick and you know you don't you. Don't get us in trouble. That's really all we ask but yeah so it should be good should be fun entertaining I was going to do some today but you know what holiday weekend easter weekend nonetheless. Tough to convince the Little hard i one for lewin's so tough to convince the mrs to to Hey can i just get on. You know all day to do this. So we'll we'll obviously do that and work around kids sleeping schedules here and there But no yesterday. I watched some some listeners and chat and it was A lot of a lot of fun and we actually had some some good matches We won't talk about it now. We'll talk about it on wednesday because we have too much to now but just a heads up. We'll be doing some more watching parties for vc. T. coming up here for stage two As the round of sixteen is just about to wrap up so we'll we'll have The qualified and all that fun stuff. Other show news Recently if you saw on twitter at the center ring also posted on the website. Here later. Tonight i was. I did an interview with spotify. Just general about e sports. The podcast e sports podcasts industry stuff. So go check that out. That was actually pretty cool of of them. Are you know spotify. it's a pretty big deal. I would say not not bad to have on your resume so go check it out at the center ring. We re tweeted at the other day when they tweeted it out Gingrich check out that interview in written form Offered us the same amount they offer. Joe rogan. We had to say no right now because of other things we're working on but much bigger deals yeah mark. We told me if you re bump that number up a little bit you know might be fast and come back our way. Come back our way. So there's there's that that was literally like a year ago too. So i have not gone back to read it. I have no idea what i said like. I like no joke. I did the interview i think. Like right when covid. Kinda i started and then it was put on the backburner on there and because of covid and now it's finally out there so for the world to see who knows what one year ago. Yeah like i who knows So go go and check that out. And i think that's it as far as i can think of for for quick. Show up dating news that being said it is sunday night for monday show and that can only mean one thing a news and that means it's time for everyone's favourite segment. Yikes of the week where we go through moments of the week. That just made you go. Yikes if you ever have one yourself feel free to definitely tweeted at us slide in our dmz game to our discord and let us know because we love love to to hear them. We'll definitely highlight it on the show as well So without further ado. Why don't you start with your. Yikes because i still cannot find mine in our chat though. I know it somewhere here so you just continue i. Will i got the lead here so no this is a this. This one was pretty fun. Actually because i'm a little shocked how they handle the situation. This is going to the cd elf. We're gonna be talking about the or later today. disregarding cami one of the players for ultra and he had recently out a derogatory word and see related to say the word. Tim yeah feel free. Feel free he said hunt and mind you. He's from scottish descent. Now you have to do an apology. No i'm sorry. i'm sorry. I said as the listener. No in a. We're talking about here. But yeah that's what he said. He tweeted it out. Essentially what ended up happening is they have now made him take sensitivity training similar to what i had to do for his bullying situation and he is also having to make a donation to local women's shelter. Which the ultra will match let That part's great making a donation. In general like you're going to support that part of it that makes it seem a little bit better but on ultraman because this is like it seems tightening up a little too much here. You know that he again. he's from scotland. I believe he's from edinburgh. I feel like that's a little bit more of a normal word. They're just like you would say australian culture a little bit more like i feel like it's just. There are some words that are more acceptable. And maybe we have to be a little bit more inclusive of of their culture instead of worrying about it. You know your own so much. So i i feel bad for him because they put out this official statement on their twitter and just makes it look like he did something really wrong when in general. I'm sure this is something that is said very frequently. I don't think he was using it in a way where he was using it towards an individual. That's a little rough right but if you're just kind of saying it in the heat of the moment when it comes to particular situation and again not a person my wide. So here's here's my take on this and this might surprise you a news. I'm pretty loose with my tongue as well. So i understand where he's coming from. I think we have evolved as people too where certain words don't mean what they originally meant right Gay being one of them for the worse gay used to mean happy right. wasn't flintstones meet the flintstones. We'll have gale time. There's a christmas song in it about being happy and now it means homosexual things change. I believe the word kant which is translated into english. I believe is also bitch. Don't necessarily mean female anymore. And i get into this debate with my wife all the time. Where like we're driving and someone will be going slow. I'm like you like you dumb bitch. please go faster. And she's like well. How do you know they're woman. I'm like how did you know i meant woman like i don't like i'm not saying like no. No no no. I'm not saying they're a woman therefore they're a bitch saying no no. They're just a bitch and i feel like this was used in that same context where it's like. No no no. I'm not saying not all women or not all cancer women. Yeah like you can just be kind. Yeah like i feel like we've there's like a south park episode about this where it's like would look it's not. It's not a one for one trait here. We're getting away from the whole seeing sex thing anyway. Aren't we so like the words should not be associated fairly with. You're talking to like that individual inside. Feel i just picked it. Made him look really bad by the donation to the women's shelter is a nice gesture for for what they're doing but it's just not how he intended the word to be said. I don't think anybody took it that. That's a only truly an uproar of. Oh my gosh. Look at the word that he just said with the state by in decided to penalize them for it in den making a big deal you know when they made the statement like and you know how orbs do it. They'll post a picture with just a wall of texts. I love the wall of text posts right like i don't even know what you would. I call it the statement pictures whenever you know something has happened when an or puts out those statement pictures where it's just a basic background with words on it and you're like oh somebody did something here. Something's happening with this org. And it's not good it's never good And and i think a lot of people were confused like a lot of people who are trying to look up. What did he say. And then they realize. Oh you're doing all this. Because he said count not even like directly like towards someone you know. It wasn't even like he called a specific person so and also for for toronto. Ultra to do this kind of off brand like they released shirts last season with the f. word on it so like yeah like 'cause it's all as fuck right so they had like toronto as and then with the word so i i feel like that's like you can't be that cool pair like this is the issue as a payer new. We can talk on this i- imperfectly find. Never being the cool. Like i will never have my friends. My kids friends come over and be okay. Why don't you guys have a drink with us. It's okay right because then there's always that line where you can't be the cool parent anymore right. like sure. have a sip of beer. But then there's always that line just don't don't ever give them that leeway and toronto can have the sip. You can't have the beer right like and i felt like toronto. Try to be that cool hip team where it's like guys. Look we're in oregon. We use the f. word but then it's like here it's like oh i just don't know where like again where it came from the league game down and said hey one of your players said this like you need to address it or if they took the action the way they did in either way just comes across as weird like you could've told him just to delete the post you know and it was a cut move on edge cut move by toronto and you're right like if they are like hey let's not use that row let's not use that language Than they should just probably shoot them a message saying you know we're not going to say anything public but just from a pr standpoint. Could you not and easy way to address this and that i completely understand like for listeners. You probably don't know this. A new wants to use the and word all the time on the show like daily daily. Like you just like. I don't see you know like i'm browns for constantly like saying it back and forth food. We're hoping would be licensed. I word but being cultural. Yeah so but i'm like. Hey from a pr standpoint. Just not a good look. Don't do it and so it's understandable like it's i get i get it like we're we're trying to get sponsors and all that like i understand that but but from toronto stamp make such a i mean you you really made a big deal out of nothing. Look i mean there. There are two sides to this. You're absolutely right like in the sense of you. Don't see professional athletes talking this way on twitter right. Not all of them. I guess there's probably always some probably a much smaller percentage that used derogatory language regarding anything. Honestly i mean. I can't even think of scenarios where they do it like for majority of players right but because they're gonna. Pr classes is like one of the first things that they have to do in nfl orientation nba like all of that like they have they have to understand. Some things are acceptable. You can keep your personal personal. But you're still representing us in so if you wanted to be that way set those boundaries. Right don't come at him. After there's been hundreds of other tweets. i mean. Just go through all the cod players. I bet you could find a bunch of stuff if that's how you really wanted to do it but set your boundaries early. Don't don't come at him this way and again it just makes ultimately you just made him look bad thankfully the community support him in almost saw this as a joke because they released it on april fools. That was the other part of it was needed. This on april fools. Everybody can't even tell that honestly guessing what are they kidding or are they not kidding. Did this really happen. Yeah april fools. There was a few of those out there. Where you're like. Wait a minute this israel but why did you choose fools. Did you any next topic than any good april fools. Did you see any good april fools. This year. I honestly just didn't believe anything i read was the problem. Like i've kind of just gone into that space. 'cause now Especially in east sports so crappy because everybody does something stupid. Now you know like it's social media teams to kind of do something and whatever you know. Give the intern and extra project that you're paying him. Twelve dollars an hour or forty. No ju just something else to come up with But no i. I really the old okay. You know what. I take that back. There was one thing that i saw. But i believed for like a split second until i looked at. You know who posted it and notice that it wasn't real account was that. Og sports had signed rops and found a way to get him for now sports in for a brief second. I saw that now's like out. That'd be bad ass. Be really sick if that happened. But it always always realize real quick always has used the only one outside of east sports. Nothing really in gaming sports. Got me. Because i feel like the internet has killed april fools. Like it's so fast to figure out if something's faker real the rops thing was the thirty first on our side but it was a from. Okay yeah so. That's part of the reason why caught me is wasn't april fools like i remember way back in the day which is funny. Because now they're in smash. But i think it was game. Informer did an article about sonic entails. Being added to super smash brothers and i mean it was like everyone was freaking out because this is before smash started adding everyone in their mother right. Yeah yeah And this i mean hell. This had to have been brawl. Maybe i don't know what smash it would have been on And that was like crazy because that's before like the internet was around but it wasn't like what it is now to where you could just quickly go on social media google something and all of a sudden ten thousand serbs exactly so that was like the last good april fools that i remembering gaming but the only april fools issue. That got me was michael. Strahan the teeth the teeth because he set it up to where it was like a couple of days before he did the surgery to fix his gap and then on april fools revealed that he didn't do it and that's good and look good. Well that's because it wasn't just a simple picture or a tweet like it was like like full on production value to the video. So i'll give him credit for that but batted back to yikes of the week. My yikes of the week new wild rift legal legends wild rift. The game. we all ready all it's already in. Yikes kissed intro. It the way we just did a too soon. Review on last episode already thinks the week because riot has announced that they are cracking down on wild rift matchmaking. Those found win trading will be permanently banned and they've already started cracking down on this. We are not like a week into this game and we already have people finding ways to match-fixing win trade to boost their rank. This is why we can't have nice just like such a strong word to use here especially with what we have going on in counter strike right now like such a different scale of what we would call. This is just look. I will admit the match-fixing part of the headline is definitely click bait. That's definitely a catchphrase of the day type of thing where if you just through match-fixing in it people are gonna want it but still the fact that right has to come out and say look. There's already been a high enough number of people that we've noticed when trading to boost their rank. So we have to do something about it already. Like a lot of people have the same idea. Obviously you know. No i mean again. Go good on them for cracking the whip so quickly on on this. You know you don't want to see the rank system go into the shitter right off the bat and i'm sure that's really important for them because they probably are trying to make this more than just a casual game long term. You know you can do. You can play phone game. Mobile games competitively. So i think the rating system is not just there for giggles right like the the genuinely wanted to mean something and so i i liked it. They're doing it it's crappy that there are people out there that this is the first thing they think of the day. A game launches as hell can which is boost our ranks and this is what we should do but not surprising. You know again like nothing surprises me was gamers anymore when it comes to finding a way to cheat take advantage of whatever. It doesn't matter what it is. It doesn't matter if it's legal. Edge is on the computer on mobile. If it's polka mungo. If it's sim city doesn't matter you're finding away to do something that you should be doing to break the game. In a way that beneficial you're gonna get try hard and salty and care about their rank now so It's the same people that are on the online scoreboard with a high score. Where it's just like an impossible number to actually get like i'm pacman. You know what the hell and you're like. Why would you even cheat just to be. Have your name there. When it's clear that you it But so thoughts and prayers for wildlife. Hopefully hopefully this is nipped in the bud and we don't really have to worry about it for too much longer going forward now to re introduce an old segment into the show one that we used to do a little more often but as we've gotten older and wiser and just in generally more tired we haven't really had a reason to do it. And that is the salt mine originally done for when we feel like being salty and we wanted to rage on the show. I knew i want to also use this. As an opportunity to highlight moments in the community where people are salty members of the community. Talking heads figures that people look up to in the community have showed saltiness. We had that incident just the other day on twitter. So let me give you the layout will. I just want to highlight these individuals. That had a little bit of extra salt at this. 'cause we we need the help when it comes to salt mine right. I don't have that energy. I don't anymore to like the kids really care enough to get onto somebody that much right like at this point every immediate in some way. So you know. It's true what they say is when you have kids at least for me and i think for you as well. It's not that i. I still love each sports gaming in normal things in life. I just don't get fired up about the little stuff. I don't sweat the small stuff. Yeah responsible for another life no more to life. In that sense the drama. I liked the matches you know. I like the storytelling within those matches. But when i like other people doing it off of course watch and enjoy and see the drama. Read the drama so watch the games like a someone in this scenario. Tried starting shit with me on twitter to argue. I'd be like dude. You're getting maybe one or two replies for me and then after that my kids probably thrown up on me or the other one's trying to rip the tv off the wall or like. I don't mind one good response for. That's all i have in me. I can't do this back in. I have very little reserve energy. So i just i can't i can't Anyway so here twitter though to people who definitely don't have kids definitely have the time and energy to argue on twitter. Richard lewis go figure prominent figurehead especially in the community. Now a writer for dessert. Oh he wrote an article saying that latest for dessert. Oh leaked audio recordings feature. Ese a player's conspiracy to fix matches so Quite a huge article right obviously showing that it's going down even into the lower ranks of counterstrike for match-fixing which is where we all thought. It was kind of rampant anyways. And then you have jake. Lucky jake. Lucky is from what is it. Talk e sports or east. Sports talk on youtube very popular youtube channel. Where he delivers the news. I don't wanna say. Tmz of sports. Because it's a little bit more sophisticated than what i would call. Tmz but but he is a headline reader for the most. I was headline yes. A news regurgitate her. Like yeah he he doesn't really and this is just me my opinion on them. I think he seems like a swell guy but for me holds no value for me like i see the news on twitter. Arena an article on twitter. So by the time i see his link to the video. It's like well. I know you're not gonna offer really any personal opinion. I know you don't do any investigating on your own. You literally just read the headline and maybe the first paragraph and then you get a five minute video out there and that's that and it works like for some people even following east sports maybe as closely as like some people are then. It's like a star version for eastward. Try you go and you get a bunch of these drugs headlines and that. that's what it is. That's what the show is built around. I think for us. we like the long formed. Talk we give our opinions on the show. It's much different than what he's doing. He spits out videos. Sometimes it's click beatty. Sometimes it's not you know. I don't know how much of that is. His fault. much of that is thumbnail artists fault. You know who knows right on how that goes but in general. That's his just right. He reads off the headlines on his videos and offers very little depth involved so anyways he's also notorious for just being everywhere on twitter from what i've seen so richard lewis posts this article that he breaks saying that there's match-fixing going on in. Ese a premier which is like a lower farming system for counterstrike. If you didn't know jake lucky responds nuts. Richard lewis response just cranks it up. He goes fuck. You make a video about reading it reading my work. It's like whoa okay. Light wet zero to a hundred on him like just turn in. You could tell it. Caught jake off guard right like just by his response. He didn't wanna clap back now. It's not that guy like he isn't going to be not no no. You're right like he doesn't seem like that person at all and so he wasn't going to clap back but you could tell it probably did catch him off guard. I understand where. Richard lewis is upset. Also here i had more of the tweets here if you want. Yeah so. I'll read these. Because i agree jake. Lucky he did not clapback. He's not that type of guy he's the key in this also bugs me with them but again everyone's different is like hill apologized for if he says something and then someone gets upset about his video so if he talks about insert. Heck's will say heck's if he says something about heck's and then heck's gets upset about he'll be came in just you know. I'm just reporting the news. I'm just doing my job like you know. Just don't apologize own right. It is what it is anyways. So richard lewis says fuck you. Why don't you just make a video about my work. Jake lucky goes okay. Have a good day. Richard lewis response. I'll have a better one when you're publication makes a public apology for shocking lapse in editorial standards. Okay say to kiss then jumps in. Guy has been a presumptuous. Tmz youtuber was zero integrity or understanding of journalism. For years. we are are are. We are shocked. He is still doing it. I'm not richard lewis response gotta love the reply to every influence in tweet chain for happening to grow followers. Stick like people can't see through it. The desperation would be embarrassing for anyone with a sense of shame. I mean talk about cutthroat. Like they really went at him in honestly like a little like a little too much in my opinion like look. He's what he's doing is working first of all. So let's start there. His channel since kovic started has multiplied a hundred times like one hundred times over in so Their plan in the way that they're approaching their business is working. Because i don't think he owns a sports talk. I think he's working for somebody who runs e sports talk right. So i think that's how ends up He's not like his show at somebody else's show in him. There's a production guy there that helps him with a lot of stuff But it's not his in so they have a game plan. It's working really well on the other side. What richard lewis is saying is pretty correct right. Like in the sense of they regurgitate news. And they're not crediting Old their sources in the sense of when i sources not inside sources. It's just where they're getting the information from in so they do it. Sometimes dick sordo. I've noticed that. I think he has a good relationship there but he doesn't do that for most of his content like most of his content. Is he reads something he comes on. He says what he's just read reacts to it moves on in five minutes later could be another video type thing so they richard lewis has a point. I just think they went in like really aggressive with how they approached it. And you know that. Richard lewis for you. Unfortunately you know that. That's the part of him would love the journalistic side in in what he brings to the table. But he's he's very raw onions witter and the whether i like it or not doesn't matter. This is the epitome of salt. Though like this is what the salt mind to me is all about where it's like like how him and say to kiss her dog piling up for these journalistic integrity these guys. He's a youtuber like he's not writing for the washington post over here. I don't think a cares about journalistic integrity be ever thought he had to care about the journalistic integrity and ever really learned it to begin with because he probably just started talking about e sports and youtube. And i don't doubt he has any like you know. I don't think he's going for pulitzer anytime soon and i mean we we're guilty of it too. I mean like. And i've seen it from both sides. So i being in media. I've had things that i've worked on or broke talked about from other people and not giving me credit for it happened with us on this show. Yeah we see it all the time. We're we'll talk about something. Have a guest on who will say something. Then we'll see somebody else say oh blah and it's like oh gee i wonder where you heard that from right and it happens but that's also just like this day and age of news to like i don't know if richard lewis expects people to talk about his articles or talk about things that he breaks like does he just not expect people to talk about it at all. What does it thinking. Expects them to credit him when it's talked about which is unrealistic to think that every publications gonna do that. And you're right you sports talk is not a journalistic publication like they. Again they are. Tmz should've they're i mean they're. They're clicking youtube channel. They get information they just spit it back out in people go there as a one stop shop for a lot of variety of content right I think it gives richard lewis exposure when he talks about whether or not he should he credit them. That's another topic. But even if he does talk about it people were then more likely to go. Google and guess what's gonna pop up losses. Article is probably going to be one of the first things referenced in so maybe it gives them more exposure that he wouldn't have otherwise but like they were. He caught him at a bad time. With that reply. It was really just whatever was going. On and richard lewis is life in. That moment was not a happy thing you know whether he forgot to eat lunch. You know blood pressure was lower. Could be so many things with a guy that you just never know. And so Whatever it was. He caught a bad time and think they went in hard on. They're not one hundred percent wrong. But i like him. The approach was not the way we would have done it right like community. Just not and that's the that's the beauty of it. Right is like all. Their approach was raw. They're definitely the wrong. Jake lucky does talk about topics. That just are headline. Tmz click bait. He doesn't really bring a whole lot to the table when it comes to journalism or even like opinionated editorials right like he doesn't have inside sources. No very down the middle. Like all of his things. I could talk about. He'll never really choose a side one way or another but that's just again. That's not his thing. You and i we do because we are long form. Talk a very opinionated show. So we're gonna give it can't be like roses and everything for sunshine and roses for everyone you know. Got to be some negative in there so it but right. It's very different approaches to. How do we're not the youtube personalities. Either you know that. That's not how you're not gonna catch me screaming on a camera getting excited like i just wanna talk about it because i enjoyed talking about it. And that's that's what we do you know if we really want to get on board like journalistic integrity and everything. Richard lewis should probably also look for the website. He works for so because dick surdo hasn't had a squeaky clean past either with no accusations recently. They made like Apology for not crediting. Somebody in in their work. I think it was a counter strike. frag video. That was like really poplar. Didn't didn't credit the person or something like that but Yeah i mean one hundred percent Like i said they caught him at a bad time. He decided to blast off on the kid. sucks for him. Because the gotta be shitty feeling just to see that. Especially richard lewis somebody. Somebody's work you enjoy your like. Oh shit like see that coming. Chances are jake's block so he wants to the next article coming out anyway. Yeah like joey says and chat. Lucky provides quick info topics for people who can't sit through an hour and a half long. Podcasts are long reads. And yeah. I mean that's again that's why i'm saying he's not for me because i i like the longer stuff right. I'm not saying he's you know he's just not my thing but i also understand the appeal. Obviously you look at the numbers. The numbers don't lie. So that's what i said. There is truth to what. Richard lewis is saying. There is truth. he definitely just steals. I i mean against stealing is such a harsh word. Because it's like dude. you're putting look nugent. I make fun of this all the time on twitter or even on the show. And we're like so we heard per sources that there was match-fixing going on in. Ese a premier. Who are your sources. Don't worry about it. We have our sources and our sources twitter like. That's the joke right. You can say per sources and no one can question like people might question you but they have no grounds to say. You don't have sources and can nobody has to reveal. There is absolutely no integrity or anything there when you say to throw something out without you being too you know liable for what it is right one hundred per song the sources just wrong lake me. I didn't say it was reliable source. guess on my next source. Like it's just you know to me it was. It seemed uncalled for. Saltiness by richard lewis. But then again. That's also his brand right. It wouldn't be richard lewis if it wasn't uncalled-for saltiness so there is. There's a dive in to the salt mine. If you ever see something on social media or elsewhere that you say They're being a bit salty. Us know we'll highlight it on the next salt mine whenever that may be Other than that a new dodge we have stage to already wrapped up for the call of duty league. Believe it or not meaning. Next week we have the stage to major. That is and i say next week as an it is starting on the seventh so that is wednesday. Yeah it's coming up that right april seventh th yes loser's bracket starts on the seventh so it's one of those kind of long weekend things right. Loser start on wednesday champs. Our grand finals are on sunday so we have a good week half a week of of call of duty and you know what this is not like stage one. we have had some shocks. We've had some surprises personally. I'm here and i'm all for it. Yeah i mean even this past weekend. This was full of them like full upset. Specials i think obviously guerrillas comes to everybody's mind first and foremost beating phase. Who would have ever like. I mean in a million years tim. We would have never called. That upset happening. A guy. I just am shocked because phase been perfect in. I mean they've really there. There were eleven whatever it was perfect up until this point and then guerrilla girl come in in three to today or this weekend. I think what's important to note is last year's homestand luck is carrying over. And so i know you said there was no point last week. To why the hell are they still doing. Home stands if they knew there were not going to be any home stands this year. It's so we don't lose this tim. A gives them some mental edge. That's needed to pull out victories out of their assets of never happen. It really isn't credible. Because you pointed this out last year to where like if you're ever on the fence about a team and like betting or putting money down always bet the homestand team because it just seems like i'm not saying like they always perform like they're not always going to make it to the finals but they do strangely perform better regardless of like it being online. It doesn't matter that there's no home fans in the stands. It doesn't matter that you don't have any homefield advantage in sports. Run was one of the worst team last year. Middle of the pack bottom half teams last year came out in one there. I mean we saw a number of times last year it was crazy and now you have la guerrillas where they went. Let's see here for the overview. Yeah this is the overview they went to and three for this stage beating phase. An la thieves like nana shut down three. Oh three now. La thieves is is no spring chicken right. They're not la thieves that we thought early on in stage. One they finished one. Four eight was wrong. They did worse than guerrillas. Some some they need to check their internet connection or something. Maybe one is playing it. I think they just need to g a something else like are they playing at thirty again. List or something. I mean i. I know temp is back in because Kenny is out with some mysterious emergency. So hopefully yeah. Hope he's okay. Yeah obviously whether that be physical mental family issues. Whatever we obviously hope for best there but still it's not like temp is like a like he's not coming in cold you literally just benched him so like he's coming in pretty pretty feeling good right like this. Isn't that far off from the team that you started with for him to be playing with his replacement he yeah it's like yeah. That's that's a that is really weird. That's gotta be pretty awkward. I you said it's like he's coming in fresh. He's coming in fresh to a team or as replacements sitting in his chair his literally probably in a different spot when they're all land here thrown plays so extremely A. thieves though just not the team that they're a fake right now right. They're proving that every single week at this point we're seeing a worsen worst version of themselves. So maybe when kenny comes back we get a chance to see this team with the lineup that they wanted to be now. will have an idea of where they're at but guerrillas man like. Where's where's courage with these right now. Is he still bringing sales if maybe some him. I wouldn't isn't a hype man just standing behind them yellow. I wish after every ellie thieves loss courage just re tweets like their next hoodie sale. Chart just don't even reference the loss. Just post their hoodie sales since he was so adamant about it in stage one about well we sell more hoodies. Okay all right. Listen here content creator courage you worry about the content creation and let the sports worry about themselves. I can go a little. I'm going to go on a little salt. mine myself. go for it. I'm going to dive into the salt. Mike i am harshly. Judging one hundred thieves right now as an orc not la thieves one hundred as an org because they have created a separate twitter now for their e sports so they have like one hundred thieves east sports twitter news and this is what bothers me about this. It's because they are officially throwing in the towel now to even like. I don't think one hundred thieves now e sports org they are a content creation. Org that just has sports on the side and i'm judging them for that now as an e sports truth right like i As a gatekeeper. Of i want my e sports or being eastport org i and content creation second that is weird and the fans get. Maybe they wanna post more. I just went to it. I didn't even know they did. I don't like that either now. They want so that means they're gonna be posting more non east sports stuff on their normal account and it's like i don't care about your content creation team doing some stupid ass like oh look. We call it our easter eggs. And now we're going to shovel up our but like this video. Like i don't care i don't i don't wanna follow these and like you have to follow them though because like trickled in with all the influence or b. s. They'll throw any sports. You're like hamid. I have to follow this. It's the same desario ryan. I guess they can now flood their e sports and that's yeah but like surtout content which they couldn't probably on their main discernible has like one hundred of them. Have one for every game the moment it comes out. It's all the intel charlie intel and all that but like the dick surdo is. I wish they had dick certa or they do. And i don't know because like i follow them for their occasional east sports news but like you ages have one for every specific game. But it's like the tweet more articles about x. Qc than they do about eastport since like yeah. Maybe i'm in the minority. Maybe i'm being a boomer right now. But they're a news outlet. I e sports second now now care more about now than they do about eastwards. I'm just saying. I wish they really should just have a desert out of all the twitter handles. Dick sordo has wisey sports. Not one of them have been able to snag them from whoever owns it. I don't know if anyone's gonna make that account right now. So and make the account aspects east sports. And you're sitting on a goldmine. Yeah like release give you fifty bucks for it. What the hell so. That's just my little rant side rant side side salt mine here. I don't like orbs creating east. Sports twitter handles for themselves when they were in sports. Orc like one hundred themes your sports twitter should just be your normal twitter because that's what it was but you now you are admitting defeat. So that's my no i. I get that i mean now. Now you've got me looking at it over here. And i'm like oh this is like two separate now. The other one's going to be like showing clothes in some stuff about content creators in the business side. Probably a little bit more professional for. Wouldn't they send out like that as part of their package or whatever but yeah i mean it is what it is they for them for hundred thieves they just need to find a way to start winning That solves this problem when they're losing. It's easy to talk about all this other stuff. Meaning that is kinda of the total package right so i. I liked the oregon. Like what they've done. I love that they got involved in call of duty like they didn't have to do that right. They were doing really well. That was a huge investment to have to make so. I'm really happy that they're in the league. Also creating different rivalries and whether their team to root for not that's to each their own but I like having them involved very much. So in in call of duty especial. It feels right right like i. Oh i know. If i let me take off my my salt mine. Hat said i'm talking to you from up above. So i'm like looking down at you in the mind on trying to just tell you like okay. I get some of the hate but overall they're a great brand haven't been i am down deep into the minds looking up at you saying i get it but and i'm just gonna keep digging. I'm keep digging. Because that's who i am talking and you're still hitting to make it so you purposely keep right. I'll say what what then as you start talking. I'll start mining again just getting deeper and deeper into the salt. Let's talk about some of these teams here because we did have so the way again is broken up into two groups. Heavy into the major minnesota rocker taking top from groupie atlanta phase. Still coming in number one with the closer to tied at foreign one with sub liners think they had the head to head is why Phases coming out on top there but look minnesota seems to be hitting your stride. A little bit right like third. They're looking good. I i've been as a whole just more and more impressed with them. We thought they would be better early. They kinda slumped a little bit to begin but the really finding their stride and it looks like a team that them with new york and really obviously phase have been some of the more consistent teams as of late notice. I don't mention dallas in that mix. I don't mention chicago in that. Mix dallas also looks really good but then they drop some of these games. And i'm like how. How is this happening like. We're looking a little bit you know. We're not looking like a dominant team like they were last year. Still good but still very good. They've lost looking dominant like they don't look like they're a step ahead of most of to me they kind of lost the swagger a little bit dallas. That is i feel like dallas has lost a little bit of the swagger. I mean know stage to almost done so. It's kind of difficult to constantly bring up defending the throne right. I feel like at this point. You need to ditch the the moniker of defend the thrown in the sense of like. Hey were defending champs. And all that. I can do that early on in the season but eventually you gotta turn the page move on like we. We are in a new season. We are a different team. This is a different league. Hell i mean it's not even the same five on five. It's a four on four again. So let's start looking ahead. They're still doing good but like today. They lost to optic to to be the tiebreaker. Had they won they would have been number one seed. I'm sorry didn't lose to optic they lost to the last three to optic. Oh okay yes yes okay. So i'm getting see. 'cause twitter was very confusing. So they lost optic which made them third seed had they won. They would have been number one with minnesota number. Two and optic number three. So that's you know one one game difference from being a number one seat to a third seed But again i do. I agree with you. I think minnesota's looked really really good optic in dallas to me or though kind of similar where Just a little shaky. I think i'm a little more confident in dallas. That might be a little bit of a homer in me. Like i'll be honest with you. That might be a little bit homer. Ism that i liked dallas a little more than optic patou me optics. Still just look so mentally weak. I just. I don't trust object right now like they haven't here's my issue with optic right now on boy is not the same on voyager last year it last year took heroics from him to get them to where they work and he doesn't look the same in on for dashiki to me is also been relatively like disappointment for them so now we're once again relying on skunk informal and at their age. I look at them. More like a In krim were they need these young guns to kind of be the driving force behind the team and then being more stable presence on the team but now we're relying on them to not only be the stable presence in the leader on the team but they also need to be the best players consistently and that that's really tough a team like rocker on the other hand. You know they add standi in there and this guy is exactly the energy they needed to go along with. Attach in like just seeing how they're playing off of each other. It's been incredible. Dallas is like a little tricky because they have that one veteran presence. I think the effects of losing claire showing a little bit more as the season goes on They've looked so good early on and part of that was coming in with that. Bravado and confidence were the defending champs like you said the defendant thrown thing early on made a lot of sense. It was a fun way to start the season. They played with a lot of confidence. Now we've seen a couple of slip. Ups shares were just not. They might look really good in three zero like they did at the beginning of the weekend. Right they three out. I think it was seattle to start off The games in the camp follow that up with a similar performance. Right losing the chicago in the next game on a game that you probably should win right like you're the better team proven to be the better team in the let it fall in so now you put yourself in the position where you have to play one extra match and i know that doesn't seem like a lot but it's just another opportunity to lose. That's all it is. And i think they're playing new york if i'm not mistaken right in their first round game have it up here in new york is playing dallas round one like that debt is a really tough first round match up when you look at the flip side right look at what chicago walked out with in this scenario. Chicago's playing toronto. Round one in winners round one where dallas is playing new york so that losses more than just like a ripple effect for that particular stage like now if you get knocked out by new york. Where does that confidence level go from here. Right like you're you're starting to now dip a little bit more. can you pull yourself back out. I think chicago. This is a chance for them to rise up a little bit here. You know you beat new york that gives you your matchup against phase and look. I'm not saying you're a better team than phased by any means but chicago carries enough weight in energy. Where there is that added pressure for teams to like. You know maybe struggle against them right and so they're going to have a tough road going into the next round chicago. Dallas has like a tough spot to start going against new york around one and so it's a big match ups like big early matchups waiting there. I think on the flip side of losers bracket what are you most interested in there like which one of these teams and we'll see if we agree here. Is there a story line. You're following so much losers that gets you excited yeah. I'm all about positive vibes right now. A niche i like the positivity. I like underdog stories like people when they rise up. And that's why. I am all in on ellie gladiators right now or gladiator. Guerrillas wrong wrong. Wrong game l. a. guerrillas. I'm all in on a. guerrillas. Right now i want to see them succeed. I want them to look. It might be a small wave. It might be a little teeny teeny wave that breaks before it even makes to shore. Okay it may be that little wave that you're standing in the ocean and you kinda feel move you a little bit and you're like oh well that was. That was interesting right. It might be that type of wave that they're writing. But i want them to write it. I want them to take the high what they've beaten. La thief's twice now right like twice. So they're the king of la. Take where where that moniker. You beat the number one team in the league use that for momentum and take it in will you will you know make it to losers round three. Maybe not but enjoy it. You're playing with house money right now so i want to see them. Continue on. i've given up on elliott thieves. That storylines dead to me. I'm more guerrillas. I'm right there with you if you're not rooting for guerrillas. Something's not right. You know like it just feels like the easy story to go forecast. They were godawful last year this year. At least they added some pieces that make me a little bit more excited to see them like apathy is always been one of my favorite players in in college and so he's now joined that roster so i don't wanna see them just fail out as much fun as it was to kind of make fun of that squad last year. This year has been a little bit tougher to do that with some of the names. But yeah. I'm a hundred percent rooting for for them in losers as well to make a little bit of a run right make it interesting. Make it fun. Keep the homestand luck alive. It's not impossible to see them in luger's round three. I think that's probably you know. They might even have a chance there. And depending on if they do beat florida and then beat seattle. You know they might be playing a team like toronto. which again is another woulda match for him. So i think the cap for them. Losers round four is farthest. They could possibly go But yeah rooting for them. You know. I don't have a ton of faith Right now in the florida roster even looked a little bit better. Perez is a tough sell for anybody at the moment and same thing with hundred ds. I mean right now the way they're playing so much just remind me of last year's team That it almost feels like a spitting image in the sense. At least they started hot a little bit this year but right now the way. They're playing. Like i look at them like i'm looking at last year squad. Yeah it's except for one huge huge detail compared to last year squad is. They don't have excuses this time right. Last last year's excuse was guys were west coast. What do you want us to do do. Do you see the connection. Do you see the service or playing on. How could we possibly win with this apart from the playoffs but ignore that how could we possibly win on the west coast and regular season and now you take that away because they're here in dallas and it's like well i guess you guys just aren't that good. I guess that's what we've come to learn that that's what it is. you know. Maybe thirty percents connection seventy percent that good so we'll see Like i said the the loser's side of the bracket start on wednesday with their winners first round being on thursday. So obviously we'll keep up with that more though as the week goes on and touch with it on now before it starts before it kicks off at. Least gimme who's your. Let's do finals predictions now. Final predictions a finals like. What's your finals matchup. Or or even. What do you wanna see me predicting like what do you want to see happen in the finals here. I'll tell you what i don't want to see in the finals. And that's just atlanta and that's mainly just because it's of tired of it right i would love. I'm trying even see this. Howard want to work out. I would love to see new york in the finals. And i think it's possible especially with the side of the bracket there on You know maybe if they run into issues with atlanta they get that far. But i would love to see new york. And maybe minnesota new york minnesota. I mean that could be a a rematch in the finals. If they make it there. I would love to see that again. This is just me mentally telling myself. Don't pick atlanta. But you know let's be out. I hoping actually for an atlanta minnesota finals like the one in two. You know. I don't either like i. I would like to see somebody knock out atlanta. You know as they advance right now. Atlanta could lose in the second round earning their first round match up which would be second round winners. But i don't really realistically see them. Losing chicago toronto. Like either of those teams. No i don't think put any fear in atlanta whatsoever I think dallas will always be on atlanta's mind to a certain extent right even if they believed they're the better team. You'll never forget what happened in that finals last year right so even if you're the better team in the back of your mind you know because i think even last year elena was the better team i mean as a whole throughout the dallas one the most important game of the year giving them the championship atlanta was the better team like they be dallas so many times like spanked him several times. Honestly there being any different this year. So i wanna see a team take to minnesota lena again in. So that's a team like minnesota. I think that'd be really exciting to see what minnesota in on that stage. Obviously i would love to see a dallas or new york. Get that opportunity. But minnesota would be a little bit of a breath of fresh air so with the way they're playing The way atlanta's been playing up until just their their most recent loss like looks like it'd be probably getting to the best teams going head to head. Yes either way. It should be a juicy finals especially with the way. Some of the teams have stepped up during the regular stage. Matchup so Hopefully we don't see a repeat of phase dallas though again for any of our dallas fans out there listening real. I don't get me wrong. I love alice if it is phase. Dallas give me dallas winning. Ideally we get dallas and another team in there but just from a fan standpoint I like i like having a little mix up in the league. And that's what we've gotten so far so I dig it. I dig it all right. Let's get into any news but before we do that. News is brought to you by philly e sports phillies sports. Dot net is where you need to go to start your professional gaming career. 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Go match fixing allegations so now you have right investigating it Why i assume valve and people on site is still investigating it with e sic and now the fbi so kind of have the trifecta here not not looking great and if you wanted to throw in social media the four horsemen. Yeah you're like at this point. Your you're sweating pretty hard. I mean you know your career if you're gaming in either one of these games at the moment valerie or see us go. It's about to come to an abrupt halt. Probably the next few days. what Is it just a unanimous understanding that liked. I buy power. Boys don't have to worry about it like they're not looking at them right. Like no one's saying like cool. What about them. They match fixed once before. No i i. Don't i highly doubt that like so many years ago and that was for like skins that's probably dealing with this is probably dealing with some criminal. Organizations would be my guests. Like i think there's more people involved on outside of east board letter kind of being able to push these buttons and not just the kids only making. I don't know if they necessarily the ones that came in with the idea that they could have easily been approached by criminal organization. Announced is trying to make money on this too and who knows like i do not think they're looking at ibp at all. Like i think that's done with over. They were penalized. We've all moved on. I doubt it has anything to do. They've served their time. Yeah can't be tried for the same crime doesn't jeopardy isn't the yeah double jeopardy right. So that's what the the whole outlook is say. Power should be held accountable like these. We've beaten that horse to death multiple times. So i'm just curious like if all of a sudden it's going to open up the book and be like ooh what brax you're involved didn't know that it to we didn't know that in the t one intro video that they made for you regarding that whole situation right. What half these guys are. League are match-fixers Other thing here. Vp verbs pro becomes the first team to ever come back from being down fifteen three on the ct side of dust to so when t when terrace lead fifteen to three. They are the first team to ever come back on that scoreline on dust to for numbers here. Eight years worth of counterstrike nine thousand eight hundred ninety nine dust two matches. The scoreline has appeared two hundred fifty three times and is pro. Is the first team to ever come back when they defeated ins- earlier in the week. Yeah i mean that's like absolutely insane. They were down fifteen like you said fifteen three. They were playing on the side and they had They had to roll out and they did. And it was absolutely crazy. They ended up winning in overtime. What makes is worse for says that This was the elimination game right. We're talking. Esl pro league playoffs here. This map was the decider map. It's not like they even had another chance to to rebound from this and gather yourselves like no. This was it you were going home. And that's the taste that's going to be left in your mouth until the next event. And so i'm i'm happy. Vp one ultimately. It didn't mean a whole lot because complexity knocked out in the next round Vp is no longer. And i guess. We'll go into a couple of quick updates. Here tim and i will do more of a breakdown. As we get into the grand finals and maybe do a little bit of a recap and dos but just quick couple. Updates fury eliminated g to that was kind of the big one. They're g to eliminating liquid in that also went down to the wire on the third map liquid. Unfortunately like blew a really good chance to win that. That was a very good game. sucks edgy. To then gets eliminated next round is what it is now the getting dumpstered early by complexity to so complexity not only knocks out nabi but they also knocked out Vp they will have a chance to potentially knock out gambit and take out all in one tournament so that'd be big for them but yeah right now. It's kind of weird. Did you see how they did this. Little up playing things like it. It's really unique because they wanted to give an advantage to the winners of each group but not completely eliminate them from having to like you know the complaint we have in call of duty as the teams that are in the winners bracket play significantly fewer games. This is adding an extra game underplayed to determine which round they start off in basically yeah. I don't hate the playing games. So you have like for example astrology gambit. so the winner of that moves. onto the semi's the loser has to play quarterfinals. Stole little army three. So if win out that's three matches your playing still. You know i guess. I like the plan. It it is what it is. I like it. I don't like the calling the plan because that makes me think too much of march madness. Words like the weaker teams or having plans. What i was could turnament. The heidel of play in doesn't sound good to me but the idea behind what they're doing. I'm kind of okay with you know. Be a little confusing if you're looking at the bracket but that's what i like when we talked about. Esl glass time. That's what got me tripped up. Because i was like wait a minute. A play in like the plane is normally. Don't get into the playoffs. Not a play in to make semi finals like determine seating right so you got some interesting teams left. I don't think right now. I think the teams that were knocked out early tennessee. Necessarily all of them getting swept out the way they did. You know navy is one that will talk about Gee to once again falling short to making it two quarters getting eliminated early and then obviously disappointing for for vp but on the flip side in a huge for complexity. You know they've been trying to find Just kind of a way to breakthrough since the departure you add. Jk s and. It hasn't been as good as you and help. The this has been a pretty good run. So now they'll have a chance to you their take on nip or both very winnable games to throw them into the semi so it'll it'll be fine if all the complexity squad and see what they got them. Yeah should be A good second half of the bracket either way you look at it and Invalid news space station gaming drops their roster and According to them we'll still speaking of a a statement. Tweet will still support valent in the future. So i feel like that's a it's not me it's it's not you. It's me type of break So we'll we'll see what that actually means before right now. Space station gaming is out on valujet. Which again i think. It speaks more to just east sports in general than valerie. But that's just my opinion. Don't ask thorne. Alex was reportedly offered a spot from g to on their valor roster but denied it for now he still wants to test the waters with counterstrike and see what he can get there and look no no judgment on that one right. Obviously you could make judgment on tim in. You're just stating your opinion in this situation. I would say you're an idiot. You have a chance date up with a top three arguably best. Eu team out there looking to get better. Who struggled as of late number one you team. Even if they've struggled as of late they were the most dominant team over the last seven months. Eight months for sure might not even close audie. Let's admit out of top one hundred. Cs team. I don't care where cloud nine was on h. Ltv it's just because they didn't stick around long enough to lose to get knocked out of the top one hundred but that was our top one hundred cs team and then so you were gonna go with a top three e. valentim look again no judgment. You wanna finish the fight. You know you wanna be in there with cs and that's your that's your. That's your first lover. I get it. But at the same time i not a bad trade off i one hundred percent respect his decision. Okay so this is not a knock on alex. I just think it was a terrible mistake ultimately like i. I do think that will be a regrettable. Decision long-term my guess again at one hundred percent might just meet my gut instinct on this. Because i think a chance to join a top tier and team doing an organization. G two is freaking g too. Yeah not even joined entities off-shoot e you orbs yellow regardless of what you think of g. two as a fan like clearly one of the top two or three east sports organizations. That are out there. You i mean not even. I don't even think it's it's close. Honestly like they're just good in almost all aspects whether it want to talk about clothing sales. You wanna talk about performance on the on the field like they cover all aspects of it so i i would have taken that opportunity if i were him but I love the fact that he's wants to give counterstrike another go. A want people to stay in counter. Strike i to see continue to to grow in in keep. It l. talent there so if he can find a home. That's good that's awesome. I just like. I don't know what the option is right now with. The chance with phase was kind of their briefly. Until there's no option like if you're comparing it to what he could have had with valerie like there's no one for one there. That's what i'm trying to think of liquor. Is there a top five or no team in counter strike. That's gonna be like. I'm taking alex right. Let me stop. No no because there's old like you said there's only a few that would even make sense like navy isn't going to pick them up knobby just mixed roster like that you know he could learn to speak russian like helping his. That is at our. We can try that right. Yes and that's all you need. Schaller's gambit verdict pro liquid by talented. He probably should've just tested the waters a little bit if anything spirits number seventeen and it's not that he's like anti valid because he signed with that one no name team to play in the tournament so i i think he's testing the waters. He wants to see what's available on vote. Then maybe he wants to compete along. Hopefully it was a good denied. Hopefully he wasn't like no way g. to maybe it was like. Hey can i just hang on to this letter. Here and i'll i'll i'll get back to. Yeah hopefully i'll get back to you. So maybe there's a spot on spirit possibly workout who knows Call duty reports from. Richard lewis leaked annoyed. Cs okay and we already talked about that a little bit. So there's that In league of legends are not sorry doda the other moba game invictus gaming verse sweeps evil geniuses to win the singapore major. So awesome there for those. Who watched early this morning as i caught the very very tail end as i got up in the seven o'clock hour. Okay maybe maybe. That's when i woke up it all runs into a blur at this point in my life which also quick update on like episode seven of the doda anime on net flicks. I bet i haven't started it in you know i wanted to. I just haven't had time. They got they. They get a brownie points for a sesame street reference in one of their episode names so the visual style of this show. What didn't seem overly appealing to me. Unfortunately on my first sight like the yeah watch like just a minute or two. As i was talking to kelly. I kinda hit play. Just get kinda teed up for me. And i thought i would watch later on in the art style is like not. I was hoping for a little bit more late byron and seeing it. It seemed a little bit like mute. But it's okay. I still watch until you like. I said i'm with the art style. That does bother me as much like i said like the godzilla enemies and the new pacific. Rim animate on netflix. hate that art style. It's like a weird siege. I i don't know what it is. I don't like it. maybe i'll give you don't have to be a fan of the game. I don't think like my brother was worried. Because he's a guy never played the game. I've played doda and i don't ever remember the story ever even getting brought up anyways like i had no idea that doda even had like lord behind it so and i don't even know if the show follows i have no idea but it's a good show In the afc world nihro former accused sex offender in the smash seen talked about him. Little bit ago is returning to creating smash content. After nine months of being on hiatus as his whole court case and things have settled out of just a reminder. He has settled with captain zach. You know and and that's kind of all the details that we have so he's as far as we know is not guilty been settled. It was for my public. Doesn't mean guilt. And that's why. I'm walking the line of saying he is settled. He's like. I can't sit here and tell people to go support his channel right now but like knowing by the courts he's good. They're good sure they're good by the courts. Would i let him hang out in the no probably babysitting chet. No no so but on that note to we should also shut out. Captains act because it's also been pretty much proven that he's also a serial blackmailer and kind of messes up people's lives for a living so i don't even know where he's at he's been off the radar to so Just seems like a good situation to be in in general so. I don't know if the smash seems excited to see these names i would say the people in it probably are the people who are like what you and i right where we're kind of on the outskirts of the smash scene. It's kind of like i'd rather just. I want squeaky clean light. These people were the reasons. Y'all never could grow the scene right because people like nintendo probably knew crap like this was. All i'm saying is that this was not a scene they wanted to be involved with. They knew that much. If i was in his shoes if i was in his situation the only statement i would give out. There was like hey. We're all clear like we've settled. Like no. I would have like i would give if i wouldn't give him any sort of like internet cloud whatsoever to say the words i've settled. Most people would understand that that does not mean. You're not guilty. And if they didn't understand trust me in the comments section they people would be the ones that do know would be very clear about it. So i just don't think he's a win win situation for him. He wants to return to make content. That's fine that says right to do so like you said from loss standpoint. He is to do as he pleases. But i think in court of public opinion. He's still very much alert. Like a loser. In that retrospect probably suspended. He's trying to get as council. I'm just looking at this article blah blah zach. I don't know we'll have to look further into. I'm just curious. I just i just want to know that's all it. I just wanted to know more details. And obviously i get why there isn't more details out there but i just feel like in this scenario. If you're coming back into the public is being open book on this one. You know like don't don't this is not the time to be like i get back out. The first three minutes of his first video that he post it will see if you address it. If he doesn't will move on. Yeah it's definitely one that you can't just be like. Hey what's up youtube nihro here. Good to be back. Smashed like button definitely. don't yeah ill-advised. Don't come back to that. A we'll go check out the first few minutes of his first video just to see. I've been gone for a while but let's not talk about that. Let's go on here so anyways p q. No no don't do that. Don't do that all right. Well there it is episode three nineteen. It's done it's in the books. Thank you so much for listening or if you skipped around love you all the same we will be back on wednesday night to record thursday's episode talking some vc t. as the matches wrapped up while we were recording. So we'll catch everyone up there again. We are doing watch party. So keep an eye on discord and twitter. Whenever we have time to to hop on you never know could be in the middle of the day could be at night. We'll see we'll see but yeah until then follow on twitter at the center ring in our discord joined the chat. We have a look. I will always employ. People who legal legends joined the discord. We have people in legal agents. Who could they always talk in there. And they're always telling me stuff. And i feel bad because it's like a different language. They're like oh so. And so beat someone in league and i'm like oh i don't know awesome. I've logged into wildlife. What's up that's my league legend stuff. That's all i got for you So anyways joined the discord there from our discord at the center ring. But that's it. Join us on twitter and join us next wednesday. I guess this wednesday for the next episode for new. I'm tim see.

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AP One Minute Headlines Oct 26 2018 17:00 (EDT)

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AP One Minute Headlines Oct 26 2018 17:00 (EDT)

"Pipe bomb arrest. I'm Tim Maguire. The AP news minute FBI director. Christopher rice has a fingerprint and DNA led them to Cesar say oak, a suspect and the mailing pipebombs two prominent Democrats and others Ray says even if the devices didn't explode they were still deadly did contain energetic material, which if subjected to the right combination of heat or shock or friction could be dangerous to the public. The fifty six year old man was arrested today in south Florida say has an extensive record a pass arrests including being sentenced to probation for making a bomb threat. His social media accounts are peppered with memes, supporting President Trump, denigrating Democrats and promoting conspiracy theories about George Soros, the billionaire political donor who was the first targeted this week by a package bomb. Three more packages addressed to New Jersey, Senator Corey Booker, California, Senator Kamala Harris and former national intelligence director James Clapper were found today. I'm Tim Maguire.

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Thursday-Roger Stone Is Yet Another Innocent Victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome!-Red Pill Diaries

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Thursday-Roger Stone Is Yet Another Innocent Victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome!-Red Pill Diaries

"Last night on the Tucker Carlson show when I just talked about was basically Tucker's monologue in a different form Tucker was talking about and was making the case that if the Russia gate is a hoax will then to charges against Roy Rogers stone at gotTa be dropped because that's where they got the UH that That that that was the source That was taken to court to get the the search warrants and our surveillance on stone just like your was unmanifested that would mean that both stone and Manford are free men. Look I didn't make the justice system up that's the way it works and so talk saying and like Mr President you need to initial raid now either. Russia gate was a hoax or wasn't Tucker makes a great point here. I'm surprised he's still able to broadcast this stuff. So it's two minutes and eighteen seconds worth listening to. Here's Tucker Carlson on his on the Tucker. Carlson report last night on F. A. U. X. Folks News. This is a pure political hit. Roger Stone is facing prison because he is a high profile Donald trump supporter. It's that simple. You want proof here. It is John Brennan. James Clapper will sleep at home tonight. Both have been caught lying under oath on camera about matters of national importance and yet neither in jail. Now there's been indicted neither ever will be. The stone case by contrast was transparently political from day. One the lead prosecutor Andrew Weisman is now literally an MSNBC contributor. The judge in the case. Amy Berman Jackson is an out of control. Democratic partisan who purely out of spite strip Roger Stone of his first amendment rights and prevented him from making a living coming on this show for example speaking at all in public now stone and his wife who is seventy one years old and deaf have lost their home because of this they have no insurance. They're utterly broke. The whole thing is shocking. And it's disgusting. It's a farce that discredits the entire American justice system. The presence to understand cannot allow this miscarriage of justice. He tweeted recently. He's right on what's happening. Roger Stone is totally wrong. It's immoral and we should not allowed in this country but politically. It has significance to stones. Prosecution was designed in part to confirm the fantasies that Democrats have constructed to explain the outcome of the two thousand sixteen election. His conviction helps their case in other words. If the Russia collusion story was a hoax. And of course it most certainly was a hoax. Then why is Roger Stone going to prison for his role in it? If Roger Stone's serves even a single day behind bars the Russia lie will be validated as true stones imprisonment will be prime facial evidence in the view of Democrats. So at this point. There's really only one solution. The president must pardon Roger Stone or commute his sentence before he goes to jail. Democrats will howl if he does that. Well they're howling anyway. How every day Chuck Schumer is now yelping about yet another investigation into Roger Stone Russia gate to in one entirely constitutional act. The President Could Save Roger Stone's life vindicate himself and end this nonsense forever. So sounds pretty reasonable logical to me the December reason logical to you. So what did talk? Just say this thing is tied to Russia Gate. Then it a hoax. Then it can't proceed because the evidentiary chain is fake another words. This guy is is innocent. Now you I got a seventy year old guy who's homeless. He's homeless has no insurance has no way to pay his attorney. Who Know How have who knows how his attorneys are being paid and his one major crime is what he knows. Donald John Trump. I agree with with Tucker that Now if you let stone be sentenced the president pardons them in Schumer Schumer House. Let him that does not solve and prove the hoax. I should say so. That is not prove that the that are Doesn't do anything for for. The Russia Gate was a hoax. Because then they'll The daily beast and MSNBC OH MSNBC Rick Mad cow and all the rest of them and every member of the Democratic caucus in both the house and the Senate will continue to wine carp and claim that it wasn't a hoax and the only thing that happened at a certain orange. The bad was basically pardoned by a bunch of partisan Republicans shampoo to make this thing. Go Away but now here's the kilt. I just love this. Here's the shot and you make it go away. Biden's GonNa fall on the Sword. One final time offer up. Silky Biden as the sacrificial lamb to protect killary and to protect all that she did to try and be elected president. That's the out for the Democrats. There's it look from where I sit knowing what I know about this. There's no other way because that story is GonNa come out and European. He'll look I used to say this often here on Mike Church. Show that if you if you wanna read news real news about what's going on in the United States get European newspapers read the Daily Mail. Read the the What all read the Telegraph. Because it's awful. Read read the Oh Gosh what's the other one? That has an American edition a couple Tabloids from the English newspapers. That will report on things that are happening here. That American newspapers won't touch. Now let me just add now the voice of intrigue here. Now listen to this. If you go to the pages of the allegedly Kowloon sear national review. I'm just going to demonstrate you that people that are elite ruling masters whether in media or government or the the biggest sack of liars or the most mill or miss or mel informed loud stood. There are maybe they all just have trump derangement syndrome. This from the National Review Corner Kevin D Williamson who does have trump derangement syndrome. Roger Stone deserves a severe punishment. The GRANDPA Roger Stone deserves a severe punishment. Roger Stone belongs in prison. He says for a very long time. Well he's in his seventies dude. You can't sentence them there for a very long time. He's not going to survive. He's going to die. It's going to be like Peterson Stat. Irving or Irwin Schiff. Who died on in prison for tax evasion as they call it. You have a government that can actually lock people up and do this. To the should be mortified of this seven felonies in which he stands. Convicted are at the heart of crimes of political corruption. Why Congress and tampering with witnesses? Or you mean like what shifted lion with the Sea Hag what fat Jerry Nadler did when Nazi Pelosi did what anyone that was involved. Sam Impeachment Mark Seen Waters Carolyn Maloney. And all the rest of them lying to Congress and manipulating witnesses. You mean like that because that actually happened and they are members of Congress as a matter of fact shifty Adam Schiff had an entire staff of twenty three individuals working to overturn two thousand sixteen election. How'd you like it? There's someone had twenty three individuals working to overturn something you had achieved in your life genuinely achieved.

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AP Headline News Oct 26 2018 10:00 (EDT)

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04:00 min | 2 years ago

AP Headline News Oct 26 2018 10:00 (EDT)

"Mrs firefighter Raphael poor yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new firehouse pub stakes up with savory steak crispy fried onions and are rich Belgian beer cheese sauce on tap. For a limited time or yours at firehouse. Subs dot com today. Remember a portion of every sub you buy helps to my life. Siemian women for I responded firehouse subs. Joy more subs. Save more lives. Limited time only plus tax participating locations. Firehouse subs. Donate a minimum one million dollars in two thousand eighteen firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one three percent. Every purchase. And he radio news. I'm Rita Foley, more suspicious packages have been found as the FBI investigates bombs sent a prominent Democrats and CNN authorities have found two more suspicious packages, similar to pipebombs sent a prominent Democrats this week a dozen have now been located though, none have detonated. The latest were addressed New Jersey Senator Corey Booker, which the F B I says was intercepted in Florida and former national intelligence director, Jim Clapper that one was discovered at a Manhattan postal facility. Former President Obama and Hillary Clinton were some of the other targets this week. Investigators are analyzing the crew devices to see if they were intended to detonate or simply so fear just before the midterm elections. Saga megani? At the White House, New York mayor Bill de Blasio. This is clearly an effort to terrorize people politically. To choose people for political purposes and attack them because of their beliefs that is the kind of thing we've seen before in this city. And we reject it, and we will not be intimidated by it New York City mayor Bill de Blasio, President Trump says what's going on at the border is a national emergency. We're learning he'll send eight hundred active duty troops to the border to help. Keep out thousands of Central American immigrants who are walking toward the United States. But still about a thousand miles away from the nearest border crossing in Texas, George popadopoulos, a former Trump campaign adviser who admitted lying to the FBI in the Russia investigation says he may now withdraw his guilty plea. He says that's because of new information. He's learned but he says he can't talk about it. Good numbers on the economy grew at a strong three and a half percent from July through September. Among the final numbers. We'll see on the economy before the elections. This is AP radio news. An elderly New Jersey man's fall has led to a big lottery. Win a New Jersey man was walking to buy a lottery ticket for this week's massive mega millions jackpot when he fell and broke his hip WC UT reports the eighty seven year old ended up in the hospital where he was invited to join the staff's lottery pool since he never got a ticket along with one hundred and forty one other people one of those tickets was worth a million dollars. Earl Livingston says he's very thankful. He also needs a hip replacement. I'm Shelley Adler, repeating our top story for you suspicious packages addressed in New Jersey, Senator Corey Booker and former national intelligence director, James Clapper and similar in appearance to pipe bomb devices sent to other prominent Democrats have been intercepted this morning as investigators scrambled to locate the culprit and motives behind a plot aimed at critics of President Trump the discoveries. Bring to twelve the total number of devices addressed in recent days to democratic figures. Rita Foley, AP radio news. This is firefighter Raphael. Poor yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new firehouse pub steaks with savory steak crispy fried onions and are rich Belgian beer cheese sauce on tap. For a limited time. Order. Yours at firehouse subs dot com today. Remember a portion of every sub you buy helps them by lifesaving equipment. I responded firehouse subs. Joy more subs. Save more lives anytime only plus tax participating locations. Firehouse subs. Don't even minimum one million dollars. The two thousand eighteen firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one three percent. Every purchase.

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Mike Church Show-CoronaHoax Madness: The Hunger Games, Vaxx Edition, Comes To Ohio

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14:29 min | Last month

Mike Church Show-CoronaHoax Madness: The Hunger Games, Vaxx Edition, Comes To Ohio

"Kylie's impel the federalist lockdown mongers can point fingers but the science is in there to blame. Aunt vouch leading leftist and their malicious of media. Mouthpieces have all been sticking their fingers into dyke of the lockdown strategy but as the data blows holes in the idea of lockdown in parity and the science gushes out the ruling class is getting swept up into current of their own failures for a flailing their opponents in a desperate attempt to divert again. I've been saying this for almost a year. There will be some form of a nuremberg trial for. Us governors members has represented so-called doctors at the cdc and the nih burks and fau cheek. Go on trial would about trump executive immunity never happen burks in foudy rested their lives in prison. Now if you don't believe these people are desperate. Listen to this. Were you able to okay. You got this is we had to go to media to get the dank story and i can't stand those pro abort creeps if you don't think they're desperate right now to try and continue the inactive and finish the job or i don't know what no one knows what the genetic fallout is going to be from the t. cell virus jabs. That people are getting ohio governor. Now listen to it. i'm not making. This is not a saturday night. Live skit parody. This actually happened. Ohio governor announces million dollar lottery for adults who have gotten fascinated so again two states now going to give money away and lower the carrot out there for the rest of you idiots in ohio have not gotten vaccinated to get fascinated so that you can win the hunger games lottery. That's what this amounts to. This is an act of desperation. This is almost in a flat out. Admission that the vacs everyone campaign is a massive failure that they're not going to be able to control all of the population with their vaccine passports. Ohio governor mike dewine emphasize the importance of getting fascinated especially gidding children vaccinated by the by if you go to frontline doctors dot com or robert f kennedy juniors children's defense fund. I think it's called zarate site You will see that pfizer is now cleared to start jabbing this dna mandating monster-making cocktail into the arms of twelve year olds. They won't stop until they get the two year olds and then go for infants. We must have the entire population shedding these proteins. Member member rand paul. Yesterday telling about how the reserves are the the wuhan university of north carolina at the behest of emperor fao patine had taken the sars The sars Sars influenza virus if indeed that was ever isolated and had added this stuff to it supposedly make it more to make it more deadly. They failed. I if if that's what happened then they fail but there was a team. Denying it last. Senator you're just you're just wrong misleading. People he wasn't misleading people. Now they've come up with a quote vast seen close quote to undo the damage that they did in cooperating with the labs wuhan china. You know what else is happening out there. If you go to the twitter feed where mike dewine. Mike drank the wine. This lunatic governor. Just one of these guy. The guy that will go on trial. The nuremberg corona hoax. Trials dewine should lose everything it'd be buried underneath the jail. Never see the light of day again for what he did to the good people of ohio If you read the twitter feed and the comments underneath where dewine where wind posted this county. You'll see corona useful idiot after corona useful idiot. Going use. get to choose stupid. We know that you get covid. Nineteen they're seeing you idiot minimize the effects of it so you risk your life with an experimental drug so you get a free doughnut or free beer or a free. What are they giving away. Free pound or crawfish. Now so that you can still get the flu but it won't hurt as much. Do i had this right to wines. Said it's time to end the health orders. People have been following the past year as more and more people get the corona doom vaccine. The winds had vast. The nation is clearly safer regardless of age. Then running the risk of getting covert. Where what do you base that on. There is simply no sit testicle or scientifically basis for this. I i gotta tell you. I'm tired of talking about this. I have a friend He and coordinated and corresponded for just about a year from march of last year. To march of this year Over this he would feed me stories. He was out there watching videos. It was listening to show a reading a signing up for emails and He was all into the fight. He quit in march. I've only heard from a couple of times he quit. Here's i can't do this anymore. I got a family. I got a job to do a whole year into this. We did nothing mike. Oh oh contraire. We did not do nothing. We the fact that the wine wants to give a million dollars away to try to entice people to get the corona doom. Dna manipulating vaccine. Says that we were of the team. That's winning. we're winning. They did not carry the day. Everyone is now going to sign up for this death cocktail. And they're playing the look. The whole thing goes out the window. If you don't have the ability to manipulate magyars of the population they can't get away with it. We're winning the truth. Is winning adults. Who who've got at least their first dose of the vaccine will be eligible and winners will be selected once a week for five weeks. They're going to get five million dollars away. Gino how many people you can lift at a poverty. How many children could you feed. How many mothers who are about to have their babies murdered in ohio because they say we. I can't afford to become a mother. How many children could be fed and put into some kind of foster homes or extended care for for struggling expected mothers with five million clams. Here's the kicker the money will come from existing federal corona virus relief funds. So you mean you passed porculus suck your stimulus part. Two or is apart five. Now i lose track. You pass the porculus sucker. Stimulus stimulus so that governors could make millionaires out of out of the ski airman vaccine test subjects. And you don't think that they're desperate dewine explained. The decision does league. I know there's some of you are shaking your head and saying that mike dewine. He's crazy this million dollar drawing idea of yours is a waste of money but none listen but truly the real waste at this point ended up pandemic when the vaccine is readily available to anyone who wanted the real waste is a life that is lost now. dr cove had nineteen. Well wait a minute by their own. Admission that around and mission in my the people that are getting the jab not sparing anyone's life. No what's going to be saved from this one hundred and three temperature. You got one hundred to get the job. I you get sick. You're still got sick but it wasn't nearly as bad. My fever only got one boy. Did you know how to jam. Did you get sick got sick. We'll have my few routes terrible man and went to to treat see under smart guy one point nine nannu booboo five eyeballs. But hey i got a third eye growing metal my forehead now but i got in lottery money out the deal. Scott taylor comment of the day in the crusader stadium. Chatroom crusade channel dot com slash chat show then the vaccine is the equivalent of theraflu. The vaccine is james clapper goal last. Seen y'all all your everyone in the congo need to give fascinated by the way is congress. One hundred percent fascinated know. What do they know that. You don't know so. Dayquil is the equivalent of a vaccine. You can still work while taking dayquil. Whatever you're only want to knock out the corona dome because you've got to get new and improved nyquil folks you can't make this stuff up and and so they're gonna give a million hours away for five weeks. We have completely completely now lost all sense and all attachment to reality nothing israel anymore. Oh you want a million dollars sure well. The federal government has appropriated four trillion. What's a million out of it. The government has figured out. We'll do anything for free money. This is just a spin off of the no free and pull. Unemployed extended unemployment benefits if we can make them do a song and dance. They'll do a jig just to get six hundred hours a week and they do. We offer a million bucks. This is the dystopia in future. So many scifi riders had revealed to them. I believe by the holy ghost rider not believe in fictions. I believe the holy ghost is at work told azimov told orwell and all the other ones here write this down. No one's gonna believe it but go ahead write it down by the by so we're heading Just if you're just joining us at you're not alarm when you hear mr barrot taking on the show here and about ten minutes is omitted o'connell And i only have one shot to go to traditional latin mass for what we view as a holy day of obligation it needed to be county again. That what it says. Okay you have your story. And i have mine. That's fine but i'm gonna go to ascension thursday madison. The only one that we could go to his at seven am so And we're thankful for that so we'll go to the seven. Am and a barrett will fill in admirably. I'm certain but do not tune out good breitbart and breakfast league's new king dudes leaving. I'll be back for the last two hours of the program. And in the last hour we have our exclusive video interview gracie olmstead author that book up rooted Which we now have in the founders trading post at my church dot com forward slash shop can't wait to talk to to to gracie about that before barrett gets here and he'll me let me play you Regime leader biden clip. You gotta hear this.

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The Blame Game

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24:13 min | 2 years ago

The Blame Game

"This episode is sponsored by Intel not that you would open Photoshop and illustrator and every application on your computer at the same time just for fun, but you could with eighth generation Intel core processor with Intel opting memory, you can push your computer to new limits. New computers with Intel often memory are now faster and more responsive. And that means you can open load and launch like never before. Learn more at Intel dot com slash you. Could I do like to open a lot of things at once infinite tabs? Hey, everyone. It's Mary I'm recording this around twelve noon eastern time and right now, we're all just waiting because about an hour ago. The department of Justice announced that made an arrest in that case of those mail bombs addressed a prominent Democrats. Two more explosives were found just this morning. They were dressed a former director of national intelligence, James Clapper and New Jersey Senator Corey Booker that makes twelve bombs total. None of them's exploded. No one's been hurt. So earlier this morning, Mike, Pesca Peskine. I, you know him from over the gist. We went into a studio to talk about who really bears responsibility here and whether harsh words can actually lead to violent acts. The DOJ is set to tell us more about today's arrest in a couple of hours, but we can't really know how much they'll be able to say. So while we wait for news. I wanted to share this conversation because it really made me think we're playing it pretty much unedited. I'm Mary Harris. This is what next here goes. Support for what next comes from citric when it comes to current events, market trends and technological advancements. Knowledge is power for businesses being able to stay ahead of those trends and advancements is paramount citric digital workspaces helps organizations streamline their technology strategy and create a seamless work experience. If boosts productivity in Jilani without sacrificing security with citric, so you get a unified flexible platform that works on any cloud any device or technology maximizing existing investments and infrastructure while seamlessly integrating new business models new products and new services, but it's not just about the future. Citric signals delivers realtime access to information insights and analytics that organizations can use to inform decisions today and stay ahead of the competition. Knowledge is power and technologies key with six no matter. What happens in your business industry or region or halfway around the world? Your organization can quickly pivot to whatever comes next. Learn more at citric dot com slash tau citric. This is how the future works. Okay. Mike pesca? Yes. Hi, we sit like right across from each other. But we've never met until now. You're a liar. This is not true. Okay. So I wanted to talk to you because at the time of this recording. There have been twelve bomb scares and we say bomb scares. We mean things that look like bombs found in the mail addressed to people if it'd be thirties are calling them bombs, even though they are also saying that some of them were would never have been functional. So I think we could call them bombs. So all anyone can really talk about is what's happening with these bombs. But at the same time, there's almost no information to report. So it creates this weird situation with a lot of finger pointing and I'm kind of wondering I think we might have different opinions here about how far we can go. We should go in this moment when we talk about who's to blame. Right. So there are often a few years ago as I was I been doing the just for four or five years, and I started thinking about this during the show because few years ago there was a mass killing in California. And the guy who did it, and I'm one of those people who very much believed, you should say, these people's names and give them extra attention. But the guy who did it was an in-cell. Yeah. The guy who are the involuntary celebrates. Yeah. And there was a raft of so reporters explained what the in-cell community was what the pickup artist community was basically sounds like a bunch of guys with. Blogs. There's probably a decent fed diagram of that going on. But. Okay. So many people then reported this was an inevitable and natural consequence of the toxicity of online in cell chat boards. And I don't I from what I learned about online in cell chat boards, were toxicity definitely applies. But I began to think about that. And I really wanted to be fair about how fair that was people also said the same thing about that shooter in the abortion clinic and Colorado. Well, what do you expect? This is how this is how angry the and vitriolic the rhetoric around. It is it at the same time that came out or soon thereafter there were there was a couple of killings where the peop- of policemen were the people who did the killings claimed to have been inspired by black lives matter, and the very same people who are saying, look, it's a natural outgrowth of how horrible and toxic the insect community was. Would never ever put the blame on black lives matter. Now, I try to then be consistent in the application of what are the standards? There can be a number of different things. But to me comes razor for the standard seems to be if we hate the cause then that cause can be blamed on some outgrowth of it, some violent outgrowth. But if we respect or identify with the cause then that caused can never be blamed it's never the rhetoric of the 'cause it's always people receiving the message wrong perversion of the message. And so in this case with the possible would be bombings. There was some discussion. Oh, is this really a Trump supporter or is this some one on the left doing a false flag operation, and I said, maybe now is a moment to just say depending on what the explanation turns out to be are you going to have a different opinion about the culpability of the person behind it. So it really was. A Trump supporter. I think what everyone's saying. Now what most people are saying? Now is that Trump bears a lot of responsibility. But what if it turns out not to be a Trump supporter? What if it turns out to be the opposite? Will we then have to say, you know, the left has gone too far? Also, how is it that everyone can agree that Trump is to some extent to blame? And yet almost none of those people would say that Bernie was to some small extent to blame for that man who shot up who is a birdie supporter who was explicitly inspired. He said by Bernie who shot up through baseball games ball. Yeah. Yeah. So why is that? I think we've got to blame the bad actor not the person. There are some exceptions. We could talk about that with Trump. I agree. We have to we have to blame the bad actor, obviously. And I think that there's something else, which is this is this innate human urge to apply logic to something that has no logic on both sides. So it's like you saw the reaction. The false flag reaction online. People were saying, so they couldn't have been a conservative person because it makes no sense for the mid terms for us. And I was like you're acting like it's a lobbyist. It's the guy has the five thirty eight election forecast on one computer and the bomb manual in the other exactly that's not what it is. And so I think that that's actually what's going on here. But I want to so you gave these examples and for me when I see what's happening right now. I go back to another example, which is two thousand one right after nine eleven the anthrax attacks because it just looks so similar right? It was the same thing stuff going through the mail and politicians were targeted and people in the media were targeted and in the beginning all we had to report. And there was such a drive to report. Right. That's what reporters do they want to get the information out there? The only information we had was the letter from inside which referenced nine eleven which said Islam is great and death to America. And so it did create this false situation where we were talking about this as if it might be related to Islam ick extremism. And I think that that's the kind of thing that happens with this. But what's interesting if you look at what happened in that case is that it took us years to figure it out. We still don't really know. Right. What happened? And I guess for me it raises this question for journalists of what do we report in these early days? The only information we have right now is who these people are. And the fact that if we look at it it looks like they're attacked by Trump. So what should we be reporting in this moment that won't ring false that won't like blame the wrong person? Yeah. Well, I think these are actually easier questions than non journalists or the people who are in the opinion game or just people who have a forum and can speculate and can speculate in public so journalists we definitely want you look for the facts. And I think good question is to ask to what extent does Donald Trump foster violence does what it to what extent does he embrace it? If you wanna talk about an uptick in Neo Nazi activity since Trump was elected or on the scene, that's legitimate. I actually started delving into it. And it gave me some interesting ideas that bolster my theory. And also if you wanna dance what? Well, so the SP L C the southern poverty Law Center, and a lot of people tweeted this to me look to southern poverty Law Center has documented that there has been a rise in right wing activity since Trump's been on the scene. But when I looked at those figures, actually, I think it contradicts that argument more than it confirms it because here's why because they had a list of all the killings based on from the Nazis, right? All right. They they called it alt-right killings and of the forty three I think killings that they documented and I throw at six of them because they were a Canadian. So could we just talk about Americans here? Basically a researcher right now, you're listening. I had a spreadsheet. I've but this on and not right. So I took I did take the Canadian one out. The majority. The vast majority of the killings happened before Donald Trump was a candidate or in the case of the South Carolina Dylann roof shooting literally two days after so if the idea is that there is a causal relationship between Donald Trump and a rise in alright killings there should at least be a correlate of relationship. But actually, the relationship goes down after Trump was elected. There have been fewer killings that the southern poverty Law Center documents. There have been fewer killings from the alright after he went down, which indicates to me there is a lot of Neo Nazi alright. Alright to new phrase, but there's a lot of right wing. Killing and murder and nastiness in the world, and it doesn't correlate to Donald Trump. It predates Donald Trump. And if anything a graph would show a dip since Donald Trump became elected. Okay. But here's what I think like to go back to my example of the anthrax attack. Right. It didn't really have anything to do with Islam ick terrorism. But at the same time that attack it's sort of refracted and played off an amplified all of the ambient anxiety that was in the air at that point. And I do think that experiences like this there they influence each other. The fact that the rhetoric is so heated, I do think is part of this like soup of what's happening. And I don't know that we have the data to show it. But you know, it's very clear when you look at the anthrax attack, you know, they're talking about Islamic extremism. It's it's it was in someone's brain right who some individual acting without logic. But he was using nine eleven as he was sort of refracting that event back to people right when he sent those letters, and I just think that when you look at what's happening now. Can you really see these are unrelated to what you're saying? Is there was anger in the air? And this was an angry act. And it's logical to think that we don't even know what the motivations are. But some of that anger that was out there resulted or cause the specific angry act to look at the anthrax reports. I don't know if 'cause is the right word, I think they are related I think they create an opening for bad behavior. So a bunch of things one I think that what you'd have. I think there have been bad actions for years and years and years, and it's true that in the sixties there were so many bombings that we don't even talk about that. We don't even remember, and it's also true that bef-, you know, in the early days of the great depression little bit before there was a lot of anarchism, and they bombed the. The stock market. But what I think is that we have what a login would call an anchoring heuristic. So we have this idea that Donald Trump is out there as the angriest guy going, and he certainly is. Then if I don't make this clear, I think what he is saying is literally hateful. And he should not be saying it for a lot of reasons. But I don't know that there is an uptick in violence that is caused or even relates back. I think maybe there are all these blips of violent acts for a whole bunch of different reasons. And then when we have one guy who dominates our imagination, we ascribe the violent acts to him, especially when they're Donald Trump enemies, just a couple of other things to think about because I have been there was an attack on that Maryland newspaper earlier this year is right. Yeah. Immediately. We said, well, this is the consequence of Donald Trump and his rhetoric, and it turns out it's a guy who was angry about just how to publish about. How long standing grudge with that specific newspaper. So that shows me a couple of things one the explanation is so readily. People's fingers tips that they're going to go for it, right or wrong. Maybe they're right in this case they were wrong in the last case. Let's just note that but the second thing that it shows me is that you don't need. We're we're definitely gonna agree on this. You don't need the act to prove the case that Donald Donald Trump is saying is hateful and hurtful and bad for democracy. And a lot of ways you don't need a specific bombing to prove that. And if we're saying that this bombing proves that a ha I was right all along. We don't need that. Like, we were right all along. And I'll throw it a couple of things. It seems logical that because Donald Trump is a right wing extremists that he is going to inspire right wing extremism. And it seems logical that when he says CNN and the media is the enemy of the people someone out there is going to take the word enemy and mean, he's you know, they deserve a violent retribution. Yeah. But that's on. There's an irresponsible. For Donald Trump saying it, but that is on the individual who miss. Here's the message responsible person would say it in a different way. But you know, there's I think that there's something to allow for leaders to angrily express opinions even wrong opinions than when they're acted upon in a bad way. It shouldn't necessarily Redan there. Yeah. Yeah. I hear. Here expresses really angry opinions too and black lives matter. I think legitimately expresses really angry opinions if people act on those opinions in a terrible way. Should we said, you know, what black lives matter because people are going to do this? You should have said these three things differently. I don't think. So. But I think that here's here's what I'm trying to say when these events occur reporting the facts can look like bias a hike reporting with the anthrax attacks that the letter said Allah is great looks like we're saying is it's his logic terrorism. We're not we're saying that's what's in there. The same way that we're getting the facts this time around we're saying all of these bombs are being sent to people who are Democrats who have been called out by President Trump. And that can look like we're creating a connection and some people will make that connection, and it does create this opening for someone like Trump to say you are blaming me for it. When in reality CNN is reporting. The fact I CNN is blameless in this. What you? Said and the reporters are blameless in this. I guess my critique would be hashtag maga- bomber. I don't think that that is something that a responsible person should put out there because we don't know. And then even if it does come out look at might be politically useful to for someone who doesn't want Republicans to get reelected. You could argue that America will be better off if in the public consciousness, we're all appalled by the fact that Donald Trump acolyte did this if he did. But just in terms of what is actually fair to say hashtag maga- bomber doesn't fat doesn't seem to be fair. I'm being more fair than Donald Trump has ever been. But you know, that's not hard when I guess both of us can withhold judgment on this. I think the thing we all need to check in ourselves is the fact that when these things happen. They light up something inside ourselves that wants to blame someone. Yeah. Yeah. Donald Trump knows this. He knows how the ripped pillion frameworks. Right. A lot of politicians do too, but he really taps into it without ever ever pausing for the consequences. So I do think that's something all of us can do work. Yeah. And if someone wants to say, I think that Donald Trump created this terrible. Or at least takes advantage of this. Terrible atmosphere. Certainly does create a terrible atmosphere. If you're to build the case against Donald Trump inspiring violence, it's that he literally does inspire violence at his rallies. I mean, there are a number outside of the pilots, and he says, I'll pay your legal fees, and you know, take the guy out. Yeah. And he says I love a guy who gets in a shoving match and all that stuff. There was a there was a time in this country when we'd socked the guy in the jaw. Yeah. There's a time when right I'll presidents dueled. Right. Right. Bought that's about magical time. Yeah. A lovely time which gave us a great musical which could perhaps complicate the Florida governor's race. Anyway, that's true. And if you want you blame Trump, you could say, he's creating an atmosphere of accepting violence on the other hand, it says something maybe to me, it's something that I've thought about that. He never talks about killing people or bombing people. He talks about the Neanderthal punch a guy in the face type violence. So when he has a literally endorsed violence. It's about roughing up a protester. I don't know if that's in his favor. I don't know if I was his defense lawyer, I would say he's never gone. This far you're taking your taking a call for violence violence can mean a lot of things in a punched in the face is different from twelve bombs. I had that feels like. Feels like an excuse, it feels like, you know, you can't let genie's out of the bottle. And then be like, but we we we meant to close it. You know, what I mean, that's magical, but feels like ingenious or magical? Do her taste says you should shoot these rebels, in fact of the female rebels. He says you should shoot them in the genitals. He says you should go out and kill unemployed. People should go out and kill drug dealers in their neighborhood on Trump loves that guy. Yeah. But he knows that he'd never says that what I'm saying is if this were the Philippines and someone shot a female rebel. You could definitely say deter tape bears responsibility because he endorse that American complicit is okay. But what does complicit me if someone says I'd like to punch you and then someone else shoots you I'm I did. I by saying I'd like to punch you in any way, inspire that fella to shoot when you're president. Yeah. It's wrong from the say for a number of reasons. I mean, just think about the culpability I'm just saying that when you're talking about the president of the United States, you're not talking about some dude on the street. You're talking about someone with some moral responsibility and some Johnny he's on behavior. He's not doing any of that. Right. He's not he's not a moral exemplar. I think the question is how much responsibility does he actually have for a bombing. If really if the bomber says, I was inspired by Donald Trump. I think he has more responsibility than Rando, dude. What about them? Bernie Sanders did with his with the guy that he quote, unquote, inspired. But why do we I mean, this is someone to come up with a really good answer to why is this? Why do we say that was a perversion of the ideology with people who act in the name of these other movements, but we don't extend that excuse to Trump, and that you actually ever incited violence he ever called for people to be beat up has never called for any was that the reason that that Trump has called for some violence, and once you call for some violence that means you're culpable for any kind of violence. It's the way he encourages it. Like, he milks the crowd likely the rally this week where he was like, I'm being nice being nice. But it's like, but it's like he just he he liked draws it out of them. It's so slither into he likes. He just like draws things out of the people in front of him. Yeah. And you can see it when you when you look at a rally, and so I guess that's why I hold him. More response. Well, because I don't see Bernie doing that. Well, Bryan earning up gives him angry. He Rams he rails against the plutocrats. He fails against Republicans. You can't come out of a full froth Bernie speech without thinking Republicans are the enemy. You know? I think it's a lot more complicated. And in general when it comes to mass killings. A don't blame the movement and less. The movement is literally a terrorist movement movement saying commit terrorism after the Oklahoma City bombing Bill Clinton gave a speech where he blamed the Michigan Militia type people, which was legitimate. And we're blamed Rush Limbaugh, which I have to say was a reach political. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you think all of the rhetoric back and forth right now? The fact that politicians can't seem to get on the same page about things. Do you think that's a problem show? I think of. Course, it's a huge problem. And I think everything that Donald Trump has done to our just courses a problem. It's a problem independent of any bombing for sure. And also if you wanna make the case, Mike, are you sure that Donald Trump didn't raise the chances that this happened by few percent. I can't at all say that. I think it's likely that he did. But I think that there for everything I laid out all these other complications. All right. Thank you for coming in, Mike. Thank you for having me. All right, everyone. That's it for now. Big thanks to Jason Leone and Mary Wilson who made this conversation possible talk to you soon.

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Acquittals Again

The Sean Hannity Show

1:31:24 hr | 4 months ago

Acquittals Again

"Glad you're with us happy. Monday toll free. Our number's eight hundred nine. Four one sean. You want to be a part of the program We've got the lawyers for the president. coming up during the course of the program today What a beatdown. Michael vander veen gave the cbs anchor. That was pretty amazing And bruce kanter also. David shown he did the portion of the case where he'd literally lit up the whole room with the montage he played so we'll go through a lot of what was going on behind the scenes as we speak. Andrew cuomo the governor of new york under huge pressure Former governor per tacky now fly floating the idea that this cover up of the nursing home. Deaths is such a big deal that they want. He wants the state to take a hard look at at a recall effort which new york does not have a means to do like california. Does cuomo's now out there trying to spin this again. He's claiming it's not his fault We've got to give a shoutout to our friends in texas today. As joe starkey warned us late last week things have gotten really bad down there weather wise with snow. Low low low historically low temperatures You have pavement. Is that don't have anything. That resembles a plow or sander or salting machines. Nothing and there's a state of federal state of emergency has been declared in texas governor. Abbot ted cruz. I spoke with both of them. And they're all over it and But for those of you down there might be time to check on your elderly neighbors and friends. Make sure everybody's okay. Everybody has enough heat their warm. Maybe you have a generator. You have all elderly neighbor. Invite him in get them nice and warm if their houses called They just don't prepare for things like this Good news in the media front and that being the parlor is back. Thank goodness And they apparently have now have bypassed everything hold onto anyway parlors back. They resume their social media app. They've secured a new new computer servers. Not not an easy process from everything. i know. you've got youtube. not only will they. Not that only with these big tech companies. A lot of cancel any story by the new york post But then now deleting portions of the dislikes when people comment on biden videos although that's spam okay. Can you prove it spam. I'd like to see that is a big story. I'm gonna. I wanna tell you about this. A smoking gun email. That has finally come out of john. Durham is still awake and doing anything that resembles any real investigation. But anyway was an email from komi to james clapper in january twenty seventeen now by that point. The fbi already knew having interviewed. Christopher steele still told them that i did this whole thing dossier thing tell pillory remember. Sally yates and people who will set at andrew mccabe said that without the dirty russian dossier. Misinformation clinton paid for dossier. We wouldn't have gotten the pfizer warrants while now we see in this email. The homie wrote to james clapper. We're not able to sufficiently corroborate the reporting as it relates to the dossier that was that he signed three three warrants for verifying the authenticity of the information and he sent this email the day that he he renewed the fis the application the first renewal and then he did one even after that. We're not able to sufficiently corroborate the reporting just the news dot com is reporting. Wow can you imagine that. We've got a lot of news on the biden agenda which we're going to be getting into now he's going after your second amendment rights. Now they're refusing to call israel an ally unbelievable. Then you got this. Deputy press secretary was only suspended now. Apparently is Now resigned then of course. Nobody pays attention to the born alive. Infant protection act the republicans democratic senators refused to outlaw. That i mean it's it's pretty sad so and then we got this whole impeachment thing and the on top of it then you got. The democrats cannot quit. Donald trump was red state article. They can't quit him. Democrats have a new plan on how to get trump after the acquittal that took place though are now finally going on offense which is a great thing you have house. republicans demanding. Nancy pelosi answer some questions about the capitol right now. What we learned what was a a big part of this whole snap impeachment. Collapse had to do with the fact that they rushed to judgment. They did no investigation and they did this. Snap impeachment no due process. No defense no presumption of innocence of any kind. That's that's a big problem. That's this is now going to open a door. It's going to be easy to impeach the president pretty much for any reason whatsoever but rightly so if the fbi knew if court documents. Now show congressman. The cossio cortes knew a week in advance that this was all likely to happen. They sent a letter guys like jim jordan and devon newness and rodney davis and a few others james comber to pelosi saying that many more important questions about her responsibilities. She's the head of the sergeant at arms in the in the house. Why if everybody else seemed to know. And the fbi knew and even fake news outlets like the washington post and cnn or reporting it. Why didn't they do anything. I mean this can happen to this country in post nine eleven world is. I've been saying so. They're demanding answers for pelosi. On her securities decisions mark meadows was on my show friday night and he confirmed no. The president offered days in advance to bring in the national guard if they wanted it. And then the media's saving though that's not true well okay. I i've never known mark meadows to lie especially on something as important of as that there is great. Frankly justified anger against mitch. Mcconnell and lindsey. Graham was on fox news sunday dealing with this. There's even poll out today. Look if you fracture the republican party which could happen but if it did happen it's it's it's not the democrats would love it trust me and and as lindsay said. I don't know who mcconnell was trying to impress but certainly wasn't the people that voted for him. He's right on that comment. And if senate republicans have hoped to reclaim the majority job. One needs to be what I think probably getting new leadership considering that the leadership of the republicans has lost touch with the base of their party. That's not going to end well for anybody. Graham said i think senator mcconnell speech she got a load off his chest but unfortunately put a load on the back of republicans that speech. You're going to see in twenty twenty two campaigns against republicans. And i would imagine. If you're a republican running in georgia arizona new hampshire where we have a chance to take back the senate they may be playing senator mcconnell speech and asking you about it then he added i think mitch. Mcconnell speech was an outlier regarding how republicans. Feel about this. Obviously mitch. Mcconnell is way out of touch and you know you need somebody that actually understands the base of their party and what people want and this one whole thing here that nobody seems to be getting the whole process here should scare every american starting with pat lahey presiding a guy that already said on the record that he believed donald trump was guilty. How did he get to preside over this this this shift show charade the took place now. It always was a predetermined outcome. I told you that i was right about that. We're not wrong about that. How did that happen. How does that in any way represent any fundamental fairness of any kind in terms of any type of of preceding for for somebody on an important question like impeachment. It was a big deal that john roberts said no. Don't drag me into this post presidential impeachment shift show charade. I don't want any part of it. And and he was right. All rules of evidence have jerry standards with thrown out the window. Just just a visceral rated you know. And when they started when david shown started showing those montages of the incendiary insurrectionist language of democrats. Well there's a point to be made here and that is that if you apply these exact same standards that the democrats are using if you apply that to democrats. Guess what they be impeached including comma harris and they would be put on trial and really joe wanna beat the hell out of the president. Then then my rise to level itself certainly chuck schumer's threats to gorsuch and cavenaugh but kamala harris after police precinct burned to the ground. Minneapolis supporting a bail fund. So that quote insurrectionist that are arrested can get out of prison and some did and some committed a lot more crimes that we've chronicled here on this program chronicled on tv age. I mean it was a powerful case is you don't have snap impeachments like this is why you don't. And now that we know that was preplanned and that all these groups that new understood that it was preplanned but if you apply the standards it's exactly the same. I thought one of the funniest things i mean. I never thought it would end. The democratic politicians fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight eight we gotta fight we gotta fight we gotta fight we gotta fight like hell to fight like hell. I'm gonna fight like hell. Let's fight like hell and it shows that they're not applying the same standards in in this case to other people just they they're not and they won't and pelosi can feign all the moral outrage. She wants but she's part of the problem too with her comments about when the wisconsin state capital member. What took place there and she was cheering that on herself at the time. The rules don't apply to democrats. The rules don't apply. Tacoma harris or joe biden chuck schumer or maxine waters. It looks like the censure movement has died. Nancy pelosi says no. He deserves much more than we we censor people for using the wrong stationary. And this is what is what we get this. What the american. People get. Lindsey graham saying about this double standard on fox news sunday of you. Use their model. I don't know how kamla harris doesn't get impeached if the republicans take over the house because she actually bailed out writers so now we've opened up pandora's box here and it's sad for the country. He's right but you know and then we had this. This attorney for the president michel vanderbeek. Oh man it was ju- it was a brutal takedown of the cbs reporter now for the republican senators. The few of those that actually voted guilty. This massive backlash back in their home districts. Even though richard burr was leaving anyway. And then you have senator cassidy louisiana and then yet pat toomey. He's out as well you know they felt. I guess it was politically safe for them. That's another sad thing. Is that people it just shows how corrupt the whole swamp is you know. Maybe we should do a one and done congress. One one one term as senator. Maybe two terms as congressman or woman. 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Sean and you'll save an additional fifty percent off your first month. That's pure talk. Usa dot com. Promo code. sean. We roll along sean. Hannity show eight hundred nine. Four one sean. If you wanna be a part of the program you know revenge and vengeance forever democrats and never trumpers and the rest you know. Just they cannot. And i'm i'm predicting right now. Donald trump's been pretty quiet. Did release a statement saturday. But the president's been pretty quiet and the president you know did talk about the sad commentary in our time and that is when and this has gone on for the entirety of him running for office and his presidency. And you know we now have a smoking gun. Email is just the news dot com reports today on james comey he knew not to trust the dossier but signed three applications saying it was verified. And now he's saying the opposite saying he can't verify it. It's just sad. It's it's that one party can in so many different ways abuse their power beat this corrupt in a look at the whole quid. Pro quo joe issue. You know zero experience. You making tens of millions of dollars in at one point five billion dollars russian oligarchs kazakhstan oligarchy barista No experience whatsoever and it is. It is we. We've gotten to the point where all of this gets pushed under the rug and all these weak republicans bothers me that go there and and where were they. During operation crossfire hurricane. Where were they fighting. The last impeachment with truthful examples of abuse of power and and cashing it on a family name. Where were they then. And and that's why. I don't think they seem to understand why people are so angry about this and also republicans have lost their fight. They could have learned a lot of lessons from trump. Okay you don't like his style got it check. You don't like is tweeting check. But the american people like that. 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Four million to hire dozens of police officers at a time when you still have city council members and activist groups advocating to replace the police department which i believe they already cut and they voted unanimously friday. To approve the additional funday funding that police requested. The department says it only as thirty eight officers available to work. Roughly two hundred fewer than usual. I wonder why who's gonna wanna work there. The mob continues to obsess in. This is the great hypocrisy to the. We can't ever allow what happened at the capitol ever happen again. I've been saying it every day and every night you can't allow that. How did they breach that. And then the fact that we had intelligence and that at the fbi knew and that congress men and women new apparently according to congresswoman cossio. Cortez what did they all know. And when did they all know it. Why didn't they all say something. And if they did say something who did they say to. Because then we would have had the proper security to protect our capital the people's house our institutions and yes every elected official needs to be protected. Everyone says about politics but you know just had for example by my count. We've had what the left wing protests in new york city in the last what nine months as you know we had you know things. Were getting out of hand again. Police arrested eleven people in new york who allegedly bit a cops leg. when an anti-cop protest turned violent in new york city. On saturday hundred people. I'm sorry friday. Hundred people converged on midtown new york defunding police demonstration organized. According to the new york post by black lives matter. Six women four men charged with disorderly conduct obstructing government administration. One guy was arrested for kicking one officer in the foot while and biting another officer on his thigh. Okay well they have no bail of new york you know that means they arrest them put them in jail they let them out. I mean it's. It's insane that this is happening. It's it's madness and it's not just of course important portland you have you know. Leftist activists pelting police now. Which snowball so i guess. It's better than bricks and molotov cocktails and better than frozen water bottles. We watched all summer yet. A hundred protests out there f- and then know astra's astra sas grossed twelve. You know that was in. Let's see in midtown manhattan and then you had f twelve are anti police terms. That mean the police reference to some police. Tv show adam. Twelve one adam. Twelve hundred twelve. Remember that anyway barney. Frank was another police. barney. Miller rather was was bani. Frank was a former congressman. Barney miller was a former police. Show from new york city's twelve precinct. Apparently fairly well known. I didn't know it until i read it today. You still have cuomo just going out there. This is getting really bad for him. George pataki former governor now thinks yeah the issue of you know the nursing home death cover up should result in in him being taken out of office but they don't have any recall effort like they do out in california and that's that's taken on a lot of urgency out there. There's a of now. There's a lot of talk and a lot of studies have been coming out of the damage that is done to people families The big report that for many couples for example that we're going to be getting married. The pandemic has wreaked havoc on their wedding plans. Bolstering you know. I mean putting a lot of stress on relationships for couples already married. It's posed a you know a lot of new tests. Some get closer some people. Have you know falling apart and and marriages that that is now resulting in a lot of divorce around the country becoming an epidemic as they give a lot of details in this piece in december biden. Promise americans that he would only call for masks until april and anyway that was his declaration but member. He's gonna he's gonna vaccinate three hundred americans in the summer said it twice last week. Three hundred. we're gonna have four to six hundred million doses but we're gonna only give the vaccine at three hundred So people are pretty angry. Anyway komo cuomo now has republicans and democrats calling for his resignation in new york and there is one politician now calling for his emmy to be taken back. He got an emmy award. Wrote the book about leadership in the process. His longtime nemesis comrade de blasio calling for a full accounting of cuomo's alleged nursing home death. Cover up on not even alleged at this point. Now we have a real whistle blower with a real identity. That now has come forward and said yeah. All of this in fact has happened so a lot going on there Now which you watch. Joe biden's agenda you know it's funny because now the democrats they wanna they wanna go into more investigations into donald trump. I found a pretty interesting. Red states headline. They can't quit him. Democrats new plan on how to get donald trump. I'm like syria. We had another plan of office. Nancy pelosi ruled out censure. Because she said it's a slap in the face to the constitution. It lets everyone off the hook and then she we censor people for using stationary for the wrong purpose. Hum okay house. Democrats issue a stark warning about their own party in two thousand twenty two. Some democrats say that this is not going good for them. Joe biden team apparently behind the scenes in a bit of a panic. Because you know we're going to spend the entire first year of the biden presidency. Maybe the first two years always talking about donald trump meaning his democratic supporters. I mean if you look at. Joe biden's agenda senator blackburn marsha blackburn of tennessee warning biden that china's not our friend and she said she hopes joe biden understands the threat that china's now posing. That's what former secretary of state. Mike pompeo was saying as he was leaving that position china's not our friend. She said they are adversary. They practiced civil military fusion. You never know where one piece ends. And the other begins. And he's you know. Lot of warnings going out biden to congress now. This shouldn't surprise anybody. Remember he was gonna make beta bozo. Aurore is gun. Czar daily wire has a piece today about biden to congress enact major restrictions on the second amendment on your second amendment rights. Well that came up in the election to the demanding gun bans and new laws that will allow people to sue gun manufacturers. That's part of it. Why would you get to sue unless the in less somehow the gun backfires. It doesn't work properly. People that misuse a firearm. That is a crime. Why would you hold the manufacturer that sells the gun responsible. People that don't use gonna sue knife manufacturers or baseball bat manufacturers or tire iron manufacturers if people misuse the products as they what they intended for. Let's say target shooting hunting self-protection right. He's now calling. On congress to enact these gun reforms including requiring background checks on all gun sales which pretty much happens now banning every assault weapon with high capacity magazines eliminating immunity for gun manufacturers now the way they define an assault weapon that probably amounts to a call for banning all semiautomatic firearms. There was no language included in the statement and if gun owners and not allow. Are you going to be allowed to keep the guns we have or is this going to become a mandatory gun confiscation program and wait to get the details on all of this. Jen psaki the white house. Press secretary you know. She's circling back apparently a lot. But there's you know we saw what happened on day one when they was at the ambassador. twitter account to israel changed dramatically. And anyway it looks like the hostilities. We're going back to the obama. Obama biden years on on the treatment of israel. They've been no president. Ever that had supported the state of israel the only democracy in the region our top ally anyway so now biden is refusing to call say they're one of our best allies added trump. Get all these. These deals done with the emerson. You know deals that were unthinkable because the egyptians jordanians the saudis the emirates israel the. Us already figured out that. A nuclear armed iran and iranian hegemony in the region is going to result in a disaster. Pretty scary times. We live in then. Of course the born alive. Infant protection act. Democratic senators refused to outlaw. That it's pretty sad. So biden calling on congress to ban assault weapons and institute major gun restrictions in puerto rico governor saying congress is morally obligated to act on the statehood vote. Dc's probably i binds dhs department of homeland security is about to release twenty-five thousand plus migrants into texas and california communities. That's just the beginning of open borders. Amnesty which through executive order and bypassing an entire branch of government. That biden has been involved in that. Most people have been paying attention to texas. Sheriff is saying clear. Evidence illegal immigration is soaring under joe biden. Why not because people know that amnesty is coming. Why that's like invitation. i'm not sure. If people are following his mask mandate when the country is entered illegally biden policies. Now are forcing the release of some migrants in in west texas in a border community there and then they can't do their job. I mean it's this is all the stuff we worried about. You know the smoking gun on just the news. Dot com on. Komi is pretty amazing. Because the very day he signed the first renewal remember komi sign the first faiza application unverifiable as it is and it says that the type of a top of fis application verified. He signed that. First one you know when donald trump was a candidate now as sally yates said and andrew mccabe said without the dirty russia misinformation does that hillary paid for there would have been no approval of the fis application on the day. He signed the first renewal. There were three were newell's he was writing. james clapper. Were not able to sufficiently corroborate the reporting qomi. Said about yes the dirty dossier anyway. That was finally re. You know made public through open records lawsuit by the southeastern legal foundation. Well that's a big deal. Because then he signed a third fis application. The second renewal. I gotta give a shout out to my buddy. Dan bongino and his partners have parlor. They have now resumed the social media app. That's good news and the new. Ceo saying the platform will remain true to its free speech routes and as insulated itself from future cancel culture. I'm sure it wasn't easy to do. But for those of you that like to use social media on your own. I am band by my staff. Linda never giving me an explanation. As to why i am band i think the audience knows what the very short audience. Okay what's the reason. Why should i say the audience already knows. The audience knows why don't have any access to my social media accounts on i don't have an email. They know that's correct. They do now. You think they understand completely. I do actually yeah. They probably do they really. It is wonderful people. I don't even. I couldn't get on if i wanted to. You guys have made it. So i can't possibly get on anything. That's true rethinking years to perfect us using years. I'm very proud of this work. Oh man can you put up the disclaimer. 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United states is not guilty as charged article for all right that was pat lahey on the acquittal of donald trump over the weekend and it was a pretty. These are are sad in dangerous times when you could literally now hold one party to one. Group is set of standards in another part of that another set of standards. it is extremely. It's extraordinarily dangerous when evidence sherry standards are completely bypassed. it's dangerous when pat lay. He is presiding over the shift. Show charade as i call it while he himself was ready on record saying donald trump is guilty. That doesn't represent anything. That is that resembles due process presumption of innocence in any way. None of these videotapes. That were used by the house. Managers would ever have been admissible in a court of law. Now add to that. The there's a great exchange between one of the president's attorneys. Michael vander veen as anchor says. Well you know the only a little thing a little they. They literally evidence now that in any other real court of law who'd be considered a used problem. Listen to how this exchange window and your clear for our viewers. Listen what happened. Say doctored evidence. The media has to start telling the story in this country. The media is trying to divide this country you are bloodthirsty for ratings and as such. You're asking questions. Now that are already set up with a fact pattern. I can't believe you would ask me a question indicating that it's all right just a doctor a little bit of evidence. There's more stuff that we uncovered that the doctor you have won the acquittal of your client to continue to talk about this conversation. We can have that discussion but for me to ask a question. Really slant questions slanty say. It's okay for them to cheat. That was your question for them to cheat a little bit. You said to be fair. It was nine check. That's what you said. You gotta live by your word. That's the problem. The media has to start living by the truth and not trying to create a narrative. Michael vander veen. Thank you for joining us. I do appreciate okay. I see you taking off your microphone now. All right joining us now. bruce casters. Will this michael vander veen had other a whole other team of lawyers to that. Deserve to be recognized. And david shown has been on this program many times Guys welcome to the program You know i. I i want to start with bruce i michael you and bruce partners in this law firm correct and i you know i was critical of you on day one and then when i got the context of what had actually happened i felt like i was unfair to you. Based on you earn scheduled to speak at that moment. At that time and it i i was. I just got concerned. Because i felt like opening remarks would always be fairly scripted and tightened up and now that i found out the circumstances surrounding it. I think my comments to you were unfair. So my humble apologies on that because what you guys were able to put together in ten days and then win this acquittal is is just a remarkable legal feet eighty. Eight days sean. We i'm the fake media. I got it wrong eight days but you know. let me let me. Let me tell you about what happened. That first day In and explain what what. Bruce pulled off when we got into that senate chamber and they put on two hours of video and audio and you gotta understand they got all. He would production company to put together audio and visual. That would move people and play on people's since sympathies rather than actually dealing with the facts and the allegations of incitement under a legal definition Particularly as it pertains to impeachment but what the and then one of the gentlemen presenting you know spoke of is recently deceased child and injected a lot of personal emotion Into into the into his presentation when he stopped the the air in the room was really thick and Full of emotion. So we walked out on our break and bruce You know leading the team said look I'm going to call an audible here. We have to we were about to do. Just two hours of a dry jurisdictional argument which by the way. They already voted on like a week before. And we weren't gonna win anyway. So bruce said i. I'm going to take about thirty minutes. And and change the the the the the temperature in that room. David trim yourself yourself down from two hours to an hour and a half and win a role that way. He had been working on his opening. What a but it wasn't due to be presented yet we hadn't finished it And as you saw he just went up there and You know in a kind of a real person. Way started talking to could've is tampa been better or rhythm been better shore but what he went out there and did was a bold move. It was an experienced trial lawyer. Move having read the room And it was. It achieved the effect. It was the right decision. Cheap the effect cool down the room and allow us to proceed with with jurisdiction jurisdictional argument. it it worked It may not have been the prettiest thing but it worked We would do it again. It's just unfortunate how the media you know really just gave him a beating over it without having any real solid understanding. That ought to be my first clue anytime. i echo. Anything in any manner that that might be in alignment with them considering they're so wrong so often And what not taking here. I'm watching this whole trial. bruce. And i'm watching. Let's see the they're staging a photo shoot. They're altering evidence. They you guys did a great job. I thought with with these montages that you put up of of how what. Actually the president was saying on january six versus what. The house managers showed because it was deceptive selective editing at a very high end sophisticated level. Again nothing it rules of evidence if applied normal rules of evidence in a court of law if applied none of this would be admissible my correct. Yeah that's that's true and worse than that if mike. I had done that back home. We'd be standing in front of the supreme court explaining to the chief justice why we shouldn't be thrown out of out of the bar. It doesn't and it's it's indicative of the the world of of Alice in wonderland that we found ourselves in when we walk into the capitol building. I watched this interview. Michael very closely over the weekend with the cbs anchor. And i was you have visser rated her and terms of the arguments. I was blown away and that doesn't happen enough in the media. Good for you. i'll tell you that that thing is gone viral. I mean i you know. I think i spoke with millions. And millions of people around the world feel Sean and you know. I i actually when i look back and i've seen the tape now myself. You know with the time delay and that kind of thing appeared like we were talking over one another a little bit more than we weren't then we actually were but It surely the content of what. I was saying no the media when i was a kid. You watch the news and you get all the faction and opinion. It's kind of flipped a little bit. And and and you know. I think the press just has to do a little bit of a self audit and you know take a little self reflective and see how they can help cool the passions in the nation as well and how they can help bring you know the left and the right a little bit closer together just to find the common ground of the national priorities and you know really move us forward infrastructure and moves forward on the economy and move us forward. I've been doing this equality all that stuff you know. I've been thirty three years. I've been on twenty five years. It's not happening. i mean you. You think trump's presidency and for three solid years we got nothing but a conspiracy theory a full-on hoax with now that it has every single thing i we reported on these shows of mine we got right. They got it wrong. They've got uva and they got duke lacrosse wrong. They got ferguson wrong. They got baltimore and freddie gray wrong. Richard jewell wrong. I could keep going all day here. And i tried myself getting things right. I'll tell you what we found down there was in a big way. Washington is broken and and And and they really cater to the media. I mean they are so concerned down there about what the media cycle is and what they you know how the media will react and we were all very surprised by you know we're novice. We're not politicians. We're just you know. Lawyers were citizens and And you know we weren't. We've we weren't adept at handling all of that but You know we. I i think as far as the child teams perspective. You know from bill. Brennan to to bruce castor and myself. You know i we were. We're hopeful that What we did in defending the constitution and defending bedrock constitutional provision that set that san. It's is a little bit more focused on. You know the problems that that this country has moving forward and as i said infrastructure or education i know people on both sides of all these issues but they need to work together and find the common ground. You know And democrat at any point. Ever come up to you and say you did a good job. I doubt it well. That's only did. Actually you know what One person dead One of the representatives hanging. We lost somebody. I think we lost her name. Was stacy plaskitt. She actually gave a very Smooth in and A very good presentation her case and she came up after a couple of days. And introduce yourself You know was complimentary of the efforts. We were putting in And you know the passionate zeal. We had. We also gave her You know Compliments in and we're civil with her but you know you're right she. She was the only one she was a real class. Act Ms plaskitt and And it was refreshing for us. The the i you know you would imagine the public's were very thorough. Republicans were very hospitable to us. They were very polite The interaction we had with the democrats directly Was almost non-existent. There was a lot of backroom channeling between You know various staff members in this and that when we're talking about witness tip relation and whatnot but You know we just really jars. We went down there to do our case and get out of there and And so we know you nearly ran into a buzzsaw with witnesses and we thought for an hour to i. Guess on saturday that we handle on we handle them On that they they they they they were more afraid of witnesses than antibody And the whole silliness about and actually it it. It's just unconscionable to say that we sent a letter to donald trump to have him come in and participate and to Enter bring exculpatory evidence. Well that's not the way it works. If they wanted mr trump in there they go to subpoenaed him and they and they chose not to because they know they didn't have any right to and it would be the wrong thing to do in a judicial process as far as him bringing culpa evidence. it's their burden. They made accusations that he incited incited The the attack on the capital direction. Faults. it was premeditated it was preplanned by by people. Far on the right and far on the left Not where the mainstream amarah ninety five percent of the american consciousness And and they and they they carried up. Let me give bruce the last word here because we're just running out of time in this segment. We'll have more on tv on hannity tonight. Both of you will join us bruce. You want to have the last word here. We weren't prepared for that issue with witnesses. We had Made a list of three hundred plus witnesses. We had them all ready to go a- and even had their names down and it was in fact If you look at the tape when the witnesses you came up mike an. I leaned over and we were discussing. Why don't we just stipulate to letting her say whatever she wants to say. Because no one's gonna believe anything she has to say anyway. 'cause that's triple hearsay. So so what let it in. But that was a decision that we figured we need to take by the whole team as so we took a breaking and ultimately the ideal floated and ultimately. That's the decision that they came down with. Thank you bruce kanter. Thank you Michael vander veen. We'll have a bolt on hannity tonight. Congratulations it was eight days and you guys were successful. Congratulations not an easy task already. Attorneys thank you. I twenty five till the top of the hour. Eight hundred nine four one. Sean if you wanna be a part of the program one of the other things. Lindsey graham said about Mitch mcconnell over the weekend warning that mcconnell's words and this is listen. This is the republican establishment in their minds. Now there's a poll out today that about sixty five percent of republicans actually want another party if that happens in the party fractures. You got a huge problem okay. What's the huge problem. Now you siphoning off votes Can be done successfully. Yeah but i truly believe that the establishment wing of the republican party as embodied by the likes of mr mcconnell that it would be i for some reason they never they watch but they didn't learn and i'm not saying you have to take on donald trump style. There's very few people like him. He's a disruptor he's an iconoclast but the agenda and also there's one important ingredient here that this is where they'd never learned their lesson is that you know a lot of politicians both parties. They go to the swamp they go to the sewer. Maybe even have the best of intentions and they get there and then something happens. They love being called senator. They love being hall congressman. And then you get the swampy you know. Gang of six eight ten twelve or whatever deals that are republicans pretty much caving and republicans never unite and have the same commitment to fight like the entire democratic party and people are fed up with it. I mean i think the greatest example of what i'm saying is all those show votes in the house of representatives to repeal and replace obamacare. Well that's what obama was. President and obama would never signed that into law but then when they had the chance to do it they they didn't get it done. They didn't even have a plan that they all were united behind. Already ready to go. And we've given them so many suggestions concierge care for every american health savings accounts catastrophic insurance coupled with concierge care like like atlas md. And dr josh number. Wichita wichita kansas and then the senate they in twenty fifteen. They vote straight. Line republicans yes. We would repeal obamacare's rich straight repeal bill then seven of those republican senators two years later when it mattered and donald trump would have signed it. They were nowhere to be found. They switched their votes. And this and graham rightly point out that mcconnell put a load on republicans back with his an-ti trump's speech after this whole thing went on a is is just completely out of touch with with where his party is. Had there been a vote. I would argue if there's a vote among republicans. Do you believe in america. I make america. Great again that agenda. Or you want mitch mcconnell. I think he's out of touch. He probably would lose ninety percent to ten if even could get ten percent. And it's sad that you know why didn't where was he. During the entire crossfire. Hurricane remains collusion lie conspiracy theories where we're was he. Where was senator john. Thune where we're most of these republican senators. They were quiet staying on tv saying nothing. I mean it's it's sad. Democrats there are a lot better at staying united and fighting them. Republicans are but that is that old style establishment. Republican ism is is a bygone era at this point. You know it's funny because conservatives were told often well for the good of the party know well. it's the lesser of two evils vote for john mccain a liberal republican or. You're going to get barack obama okay. I- i- john mccain was not my first choice but john mccain was a lot better than barack obama saying mitt romney all right. Let's go to the great state of florida where everybody seems to be moving these days especially out of new york david. Hi how are you. You're on the sean hannity show. I'm doing great sean. Thanks for taking my call. I'm so i was singer. Show on friday and you played a clip by cuomo. He was basically bragging about his states. Numbers for the coronavirus and it was like that doesn't sound right. So i went to the cdc website and show. What do you know he was right. And that is because the state's numbers for corona viruses deaths per one hundred thousand are separated from the city of new york. And if you combine those numbers together would it shock you to know that he's either number one or number two union he just i would love for you to. That's one thing i had not picked up on. Nobody said but i tell you this this effort now to remove him. Israel is this is now on momentum in the state of new york. Former governor of new york george pataki literally floating the idea of removing cuomo from office and saying that you know his conduct regarding this nursing home cover up has been reprehensible and that you know the cover up of nursing home death and he said i think it would be appropriate to take a hard look at the idea of removing cuomo from office with the recall movement. We see it now. It's taken on a ton of momentum out in california but unlike california new york has no legal procedure for recalling elected officials in the middle of their term and serious effort to create. Such process was instigated by pataki. Push for a constitutional amendment. Years ago. didn't happen. But i mean there is a lot of anger here biden house telling americans that they're going to wear face masks until twenty twenty to a record high number of Go ahead yes sir sean. They're talking about shutting the state of florida down. And i'm just laughing. We are governor. Did everything you should do. We didn't shut the economy down. He put lockdowns on nursing homes to protect our elderly. It's just it's just one more example where the left absolutely abuses statistics and the fact checkers. You know the lady the other day who went viral for going from paying sixty dollars for her sons died her persons insulin to three hundred dollars on if you so saw that story so i clicked on it. Watch the video. This woman's in tears paying hundreds of dollars more be surprised that facebook check a fact check. That isn't that fascinating and they. They wanted to correct the fact. That biden had not actually rescinded. This he just put it on. Hold and that's really easy to say when you're sitting in facebook factcheck office or wherever you are in. It's really easy to say. Oh that's not that bad. Well that's great for you when you don't have to pay thousands of dollars more. I just my point is is the the amount of bias it's i i knew it was bad but it's getting unreal shot and i'm grateful for you and i'm thankful for you to be here everyday. Trust me and four hundred fire every second of every day. All right dave appreciate it. It cuomo now. This is bipartisan condemnation. Getting and many calls for his resignation. And you have politicos now saying you should give his emmy award back and even the blasi another natural enemies and he's calling for a full accounting of all of this and what are new york businesses doing well. They're following new york residents and getting the hell out of dodge and moving their businesses down in florida to mike in ohio. Hey mike how are you. Hey sean i'm doing well how you doing. I'm good sir. What's going on Yeah thank you for your time. I appreciate it You know everybody's running around right now just wondering how to use trump you know he's been acquitted and such I've got an idea. And i think it's pretty strong. I think you run. Donald trump for a house seat You run donald trump and a house seat in a red district somewhere. I mean the democrats have been able to get an asc in there. They've been able to get it to the been there. They've been able to get who knows who they wanted in their. You're on donald trump for a house seat in right now in today's political climate. It is the best place for him to sit. And then you dangle the carrot you're dangling karrada for in front of seventy four million people that donald trump is going to be your neck speaker of the house and if we can win five seats five. Seats is all we need. Sean you know we gotta figure out a way to pull seventy four million voters together and the way you pull seventy four million voters together as you put on trump back on the ballot. It's interesting there's no president though that has ever ever going to and i'm not trying to be insulting to house members that is ever going to say okay. Let me run for the house. Now that i've run for president. I've been pretty impressive bench sean. John adams was. I am very where but i just. I don't snowing. Donald trump as well as i do. I don't think that would be an option for him. Look he was clear. He's been very quiet. He put out a statement on saturday after the acquittal and the and it was clear in that statement that he has a lot to share in the months ahead. And i think he's been given a little bit of time for some i think self-reflection i think a little time to let all this pass and a little time to you know watch. It's not going to be long until people start saying miss me at hashtag trump. twenty twenty four. I could see that happening any day. And because the policies as we've been going over. Joe biden is so radically left. And that's what we have to get rid of. I mean i'm really worried about twenty twenty two. I'm not worried about twenty four. I'm worried about twenty twenty two and to to to make a move. That would be the boldest strong and listen. I love i love creative thinking. It's it's pretty. It's pretty genius and innovative on your part. I give you a lot of credit. I do because you're thinking through it i. I don't think that would happen. I think he's gonna make a decision run again or not run again and not when that decision comes i don't know from the gop standpoint. Why wouldn't you put your best player on the field for a must win. Game a must win game is in twenty two. We have to win the house and or at the senate preferably both any given day. The media's gonna cover it the he. I think he is already the most powerful force today is in the republican party. And i think he'll remain so and he's has indicated in the past that he's focused on twenty twenty two and. I think we'll probably be out helping a lot of people a lot of ways again. I don't have a crystal ball. Can't say i think that's what his intention is. And honestly after four five never ending years of running you know a thousand miles an hour every second of every day. i think he'd probably Is taking a well-deserved break in. I wouldn't i wouldn't doubt at some point. A book comes out in the. He tells his story when he's ready to do it. I mean it's kind of very uncharacteristic of him to be quiet this long and i'm sure when he does talk he's going to have a lot to say knowing him as well as i do back to. Our busy telephones say henry and new jersey. We go minute henry for you. Hi sean First thing god bless you rush Well you guys are really working for this country and we really appreciate it then. prayers especially for russian trump prayers. Anyway anyway I could talk to you for an hour. I mean. I know. I know i can You know i've been interested interested in politics for over fifty years. I'm your age. But my dad got me into politics Republicans have never done what they said they were going to do. And a and all those fifty years trump's the only one that has and you know i don't know whether the republicans are cowards. They're stupid or they're complicit in all this because trump's them how to say and they just don't know how they still don't know how they still don't know how i with you one hundred percent they don't know how. Ah i'll tell you there's another part of it too. It's hard to fight and a- and there's a side of being in the public guy that i've lived through my whole career. I promise you that's not pleasant and having a cancel culture that has existed pretty much all my career That is real being under attack under fire all the time. It's you know a lot of people don't have the stomach for this and i do and donald trump does and there are you know. Notice how few senators ever go on television. Do you think that we don't reach out to them. we do. They don't wanna come there and there's a. There's a lot of timidity in them. There's a lot of fear in them doesn't mean some of them are good people just means it. It is what it is. They're not there to fight that what you heard the montage that went on ten minutes long in the trial. Democrats fight fight fight. Fight like hell. I like help fight like hell fight. Fight fight fight like hell. They seem to have more of a willingness to go in go in hard and republicans you know lay back and it's unfortunate because the only way you're going to get things done is you've got to convince people that your ideas will work. I believe conservatism lower taxes. Energy independence less. Bureaucracy secure borders better schools law and order safety security constitutional justices of free and fair trade and peace through strength as a winning agenda. I don't think it's hard though out until the american people what you're gonna do than do it and then run again saying i got. I kept my word. That's how you know politicians should be but it seems they make it a lot more complicated anyway my friend thank you for good call when we come back. David shown he's the one that laid out all of that videotape in the trunk. Defense on friday. He will join us and explain all coming up as we continue straight ahead right news roundup and over load hour. Eight hundred nine four one. Sean if you wanna be a part of the program now we have spoken with the attorneys. That got the acquittal over the weekend and this latest impeachment shift show charade With all told you from the beginning was a predetermined outcome Friend of this program. Our friend david shown Literally the democrats with incredible montages for lack of evidence. And you know one of the one of the big issues here is well if the fbi knew as now we know from court documents and fbi investigators and congresswoman cossio cortez and even the mob the media as. We have been telling you reporting that. Oh yeah they This was all planned in advance. Here's what david played last at the end of last week. House managers facing a significant lack of evidence turned off into press reports and rumors during these proceedings. Claims that would never meet the evidentiary standards of any court. In fact they even relied on the words of andrew feinberg a reporter who recently worked for sputnik the russian propaganda outlet. You saw it posted by the way the report they cited was completely refuted. The frequency with which house manages relied on unproven media reports of me as i sat in this chamber and listened to this. And there's a lot that we don't yet about what happened that day. According to those around him at the time reportedly responded trump reportedly reports across all major media outlets major news networks including fox news reported reported reportedly summoned reportedly reportedly not accidental according to reports president trump was reportedly who reportedly spoke to the guard was widely reported media reports according to reports reported reportedly as any trial lawyer will tell you reportedly is a euphemism for. I have no real evidence. Reportedly there's not the standard in any american setting in which any semblance of due process is afforded. An accused reportedly isn't even here is some circumstantial evidence. It is exactly as reliable as i. Google for you and if you're worried you might ever be tried based on this type of evidence. Don't be you get more due process in this when you fight a parking ticket. Wow powerful statement. David shown civil rights attorney who joins us now. Honestly as soon as you were finished. I don't know which ones i liked. Better like the ten minute fight. Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight like hell hell fight like hell fight like hell or the democrats on insurrectionist incitement Language themselves. or. If i like this one but this is why david you don't do snap impeachments. Reportedly reportedly this is. Why you don't do snap. Impeachments reportedly reportedly. But you're exactly right. But the first point i wanna make is You've paid me a supreme compliment. Because i learned this from the master from studying. Your shows do this so effectively. And it's not a gimmick it's using people's own words to demonstrate exactly what the facts are and people seem to get it better when they see it in living color This is the real part of the snap judgment. Can you snap impeachment. Can you imagine the idea of impeaching president of the united states based on this guy feinberg or media sources and the house managers told the senate that we just don't have all the while at the same time jamie raskin told them. This is the very fact intensive investigation. You need to consider all the facts that is a horrible abuse of this politicized. Weaponized impeachment process. Never should have happened. The american people deserve much better than this. And this is the frustrating part of all of this. Never mind i could not believe mitch mcconnell's comments and take on this and the idea that and this was i thought brought out by you as well the if this is going to be the democratic party standard. You can't have two standards david. You gotta hold. Every person in elected office accountable. They've got to be held to the same exact standard. Now if you mentioned maxine waters or you mentioned chuck schumer more. You mentioned kamala harris and i can keep going. They would all they would all be impeached and put on trial based on their own standards in that to you made a great point. Approving there was a question during the i wasn't able to tend to question answer period because of my sabbath observance but i was able to hear one or two of the questions before the sabbath began and one of them was a question ted cruz and others asked and that was whether it was thought to encourage incitement when a public official bails out the rioters heading the answer that i gave was just. Yes but that wasn't adequate. The real answer to that is you know what donald trump has been a law and order president for the entire term. He was in office. He gave a consistent message for law and order all the way through. When you have democratic members of the senate congress house Other public officials on the democratic side appearing to endorse or support or justify or otherwise Bail out rioters and that sort of thing. It sends a very different message and the message. There is violence can be okay. That can't be the message. Violence cannot be okay in political advocacy. Agreed and you know what that was where conservatives were consistent and democrats sworn because all summer long as the rioting went forward in this country and major cities day after day night after night There was not only was there not widespread condemnation the silence was deafening and then kamala harris. They're not gonna stop. They shouldn't stop. We shouldn't stop you. You take note on both levels. You be wear like okay. And then fund then supporting a bail fund to get rioters out of jail so they could rejoin their comrades in the in the insurrectionists activities if we applied the standards to kamla harris would she be impeached. Them which be put on trial should be applied the same standard. I mean you'd have more than a handful of folks on the democratic side Being impeached and i don't think that's the right answer either. But that's just illustrates also why this they're never should have been this impeachment proceeding. I with all due respect mitch. Mcconnell was way way off base and what he said. There's no possible way. Anyone can come to that conclusion to the conclusion that this speech or any other conduct by the president incited a riot number one. Because it's not true and number two because at a very minimum. They've acknowledged they don't have the facts. The facts are just starting to come out about a separate agenda pre-planning by very bad vicious criminals. You took on jamie raskin. From the democratic house managers that were making their case and the senate floor and jamie raskin. Interestingly himself on his third day in congress stood up to oppose donald trump's election He wanted his own audit pretty interesting hypocrisy but also you hit him on as you know for staging this photo shoot with the new york times manufactured tweets. Let's play it. We have reason to believe that the house managers created false representations of tweets and the lack of due process means there was no opportunity to review or verify the accuracy. Consider these facts. The house managers proud of their work on the snap. Impeachment staged numerous photo shoots of their preparations in one of those manager. Raskin a scene here at his desk reviewing to tweets side by side the image on his screen claims to show that president trump had re tweeted one of those tweets now members of the senate. Let's look closely at the screen. Because obviously manager raskin considered it important enough that he invited the new york times to watch him watching it. Now what's wrong with this image. Actually there are three things very wrong with it. Look at the date on the very bottom of the screen on manager raskin's computer screen when we zoom into the picture. The date that appears january. Third two thousand twenty t not two thousand one. Why is that date wrong because this is not a real screenshot that he's working with this is a recreation of a tweet. And you got the date wrong when you manufactured this graphic you did not disclose it. This is a manufactured graphic and not a real screenshot of a tweet that to be fair. The house managers caught this error before showing the image on the senate floor so you never saw it when it was presented to you. Wow i mean how do you manufacture evidence like that. I mean it. All started out where the presiding judge in the case at ready predetermined and stated publicly. His is vote for guilt. That wouldn't happen. You talked about evidentiary standards. You know admissibility of evidence. None of this would be admissible in any any real court of law wooded david absolutely not and i think the first point you made there is probably the most important. Can you any american. Imagine facing any proceeding which your life or liberty is an issue and hear what was steak was an effort to bar president trump from running for office again and to disenfranchise the over. Seventy four million voters who voted for him and would wanna catch their vote again and for these proceedings had a judge of a fine fellow. This central as a fine man spoke to him during it and But he issued a press statement but he on january seventh. He entered an oath the oath. He swears to be impartial. In his consideration of these issues except two weeks earlier than the thirteenth of january he issued a press release in which you said. President trump is definitely guilty. And he's gonna vote to convict and everybody else including mitch. Mcconnell and the republicans have to vote to convict then. He sat as a judge in the case. Who all decisions on evidence that comes in and as your who has a vote on an acquittal or conviction. It's that doesn't happen in this country. You know i. I watch all of this and i just cannot believe that this is our country. Yeah i i cannot believe that. We've descended into a process where there's no due process. There's no no assumption presumption of innocence there. There is not equal application of standards. Like there's no equal application of laws. I mean you know you've been all over with us this whole issue of the deep state and you know the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal. Nobody's paying attention today. To the fact that in a january twenty seventh email to james clapper the intelligence chief the former. Fbi director comey the very day. He signed defies us. Surveillance warrants saying everything's verified and christopher steele daca remember andrew mccabe. No dossier notifies application and writing obama's outgoing intelligence community chief very different assessment of the british spies intelligence on russia collusion. Where we're not able to sufficiently corroborate the reporting. He wrote in his email to james clapper at that was declassified and made public i mean this is the smoking gun email but then he presented it a for not only had previously signed fis applications. Sign one that day and then signed a third one knowing that they couldn't independently corroborate it. And now we know that steel denied it was its veracity and the sub source denied. Its veracity that's america yup. I'm glad you do the parallel By the way. Because i do think there is one here. My first reaction was democrats just seemed to be tone deaf. You had a mother commission in which the head of the commission was a partner in the law firm that represents hillary clinton he put on there the most bias of Folks who politically by folks. He put on his commission a lawyer. Who personally represented hillary clinton enter email scandal and of all things an investigation implicating. The president united states. They put andrew weisman as the lead investigator. Who's simply in my view. The most ethically bankrupt prosecutor. I've ever encountered in thirty six years. That's what can you expect the american people to believe from a commission like that now. You see this impeachment No due process you tell us you don't have the facts but they should convict him barred from office anyway but it goes beyond being tone deaf. It goes it's an utter disregard for the american public. Frankly it's saying we don't need you to worry about integrity of the process or anything like that. Just listen to what we tell you. We're going to be vicious Enemies of donald trump. And we're gonna use your constitution and your process to go after your president but don't worry about it just trust us. We're doing what's best for you. That's a horrible un-american approach. Good job to you. Good job to everyone on your team and i know you didn't even have a lot of time to prepare. I mean unbelievable. Thank you david. Sean is always eight hundred nine. Four one sean. Our toll-free telephone number twenty five now til the top of the hour. Eight hundred nine. Four one sean. You want to be a part of the program. Lindsey graham said a lot on fox news sunday this weekend number one. You know if we did a poll. Ask yourself. And the poll was okay. Do you support mitch. Mcconnell's version of Of republican ism old establishment wing or. Do you support donald. Trump's america first agenda at the food at poll was taken today. What would the number be eighty. Five ninety percent trump maga- america. I i mean it's it's unbelievable. It's that the republican party just has this. The establishment wing of the republican party just never seems to learn what it is that the american people want and what the american people want is not complicated. We talked all about it last week. And the other thing about republicans as they never seem to know how to fight where were where were most of these republicans. During this whole deep state visor application visor abuse premeditated fraud. Russia collusion lies ukrainian hoaxes. Where were they how. Come with all of the the tape that we have from. Let's see schumer pelosi. joe biden kamla harris. All the tape. We have maxine waters. We're are the ever holding democrats to the same standards that they're holding republicans to. Why don't they ever do that anyway. Here's lindsey graham. He was on fox news. Sunday talking about kamala harris apply the same standard as i've been saying guess what she gets impeached and put on trial. He's the first president. Ever impeached be impeached without a lawyer. Without a witness with our ability to confront the those against him and the trial record was a complete joke hearsay upon hearsay. And we've opened pandora's box to future presidents and if you use this model. I don't know how calm lara's doesn't get impeached at the republican takeover of the house. Because she actually. Bill vowed rioters and one of the writers went back to the streets and broke. Somebody's head open. So we've opened pandora's box here said for the country okay is it. They're not gonna stop. This is right after the police precinct burned to the ground in the middle of writing. That's been there was breaking out over the country. Minneapolis early in the time and raising money for people that go out and yeah then commit more crimes because we don't keep them in jail because the bail fund that she was a part of a lot of you want to weigh in. Let's make that happen Let us say i almo the liberal from brooklyn. This is mo- most been calling the show for years. Thinks i'm the most dangerous guy in america. Do you still believe that owns you'll get more. Dangerous is a day my friend if i was dangerous than donald trump won the last election and he'd be president right now. Apparently i'm not as powerful as you would. You would suggest that. I am welsh on. I picked the election on At ten thirty on election night. When i saw what was happening in arizona and nevada and Yeah there wasn't much anybody could do You know donald Put himself on the line. And you know. I don't know how many votes we won by but it was at least seven million and You know the problem is and even you should be concerned about this and and democrats as you know. As long as they got the result they wanted but when the laws the statutory language. says the partisan observers should be able to watch the vote. Count start to finish and it doesn't happen. That should concern you when a when a state constitution like pennsylvania as very strict limits on mail in voting. And then they don't they bypassed their own constitution that should concern you. Same with wisconsin state law. Go ahead on. And i was watcher. I know what happens at the polls. I've been there Voting should be much more accessible to americans. All americans and voter i d. Do you support voter. Id my no. I don't support voter ideas vote. She's ninety eight. she has no valid. Id she has no valid. Id your mom. We get your mom valid. I d i promise. There's a way to do it in new york where you are. That's fairly easy even if she doesn't want driver's license and i'm sure you've been loving suddenly you are. You would help your ninety eight year. Old wonderful mom. I already talked to chuck schumer. He said he'd take care of it if we needed. We were more concerned about her. The last time she left the country they weren't back in because she only had her citizenship papers from nineteen forty eight with her maiden name. Oh yeah we gotta get you get you up to speed with some i d. I think you can't get into a democratic national convention without photo. Id to know that. You can't get sean. I work in secure places all the time. I know what. I d is nice so we want integrity and confidence in election results. We should have voter. Id chain of custody Very strict rigorous standards. I think i think mail in voting. If you're going to do it you gotta have voter. Id real signature verification. And i think that's to protect the integrity on both sides so that people will have confidence in election results. And i think that'd be a good thing for the country don't you well. I agree that election should be above and Well you know there's always been famous story. all nancy. Pelosi complained bitterly that that 2016 was stolen. Hillary said that trump was an illegitimate president stacey. Abrams still hasn't conceded her race. I don't see anybody upset about them. Complaining issue did you know what happened with kennedy in west. Virginia when he was running about kennedy yeah how about kennedy and illinois. Yeah i'm no all about no in in west virginia. His campaign manager sped through every small town in west virginia and gave the sheriff five grand if he get them to vote for kennedy and they won. I you approve such thing. what you're saying. Move from brooklyn that you'll approve of this. Well i think elections should be run fairly and you can't how do you then if you want them. Fair partisan observers should observe chain of custody should be respected signature verification and voter id. It's pretty simple. It's not that it's not that rigorous. A standard sean. Everybody knows what happens at the polls out lady who i go in and try for thirty years. I look at my signature over the years. I've voted they're all different scribbling. I i'm never gonna. I'm never going to change your mind but i'm trying. I've been trying mo for years right. You'll give you the last word. The last squared. I gotta say the issue on his I am so happy that you've done so well over the years since we've been talking and i'm really proud and happy whenever i get a chance to call in and say hi to you you know. I can't hate no further people in this audience. Mo is been calling me for years and we've been arguing for years and i still i. There's something about the quality of your voice. Justice sincerity is infuriatingly. Nice all right mojo. God bless you my friend. God bless your mom to okay. Let's say hi. Let's let's go to texas. Maybe we can get some some reasonable viewpoints in texas andrew. How are you. I'm good shawn. Thank you for Think of everything you do for our country everyday man that previous caller just reminded me of your days with Alan colmes it was. It was pretty cool just to just to hear that being by the way we're praying for our friends in texas. I know you guys. The temperatures are really low. The streets are really dangerous and a lot of places. A lot of prayers for our friends in texas and Hang in there. The temperature will come back and and melt the ice and etcetera. We appreciate that. Yeah we've got about five inches of snow down here in san antonio and some is too so. We're not used to that. But now i know i'm be careful with that ice. If it's on the pay me can't see it. and so driving it can be treacherous. Just be careful. You know if there's an older person living on your block maybe go make sure checking on and make sure they're okay. Maybe if the power goes out maybe you can lend them a space heater. You have one just you know everybody helps everybody. We will do that. Thank you. Thank you sean Else is on your mind. Well my my question is I i understand that since the acquittal this weekend. I'm looking at this in two parts. One since justice roberts Didn't preside and senator lahey. He is not chief chief justice. We understand that is unconstitutional. But my my big question is is that how is it that we can go forward either as the american people or as representatives and senators in congress where they can bring a litigation suit all the way to the supreme court clarify how congress can't impeach presents going forward and the reason why i'm saying this is because i know we can't do anything about it now but looking to the future. I know that it's very murky. You know in the constitution of how how it has to be in it's very limited On the language of explanation of of impeachment. So it's like we can just impeach him impeach and what it does is it makes our country Weaker in also makes our our country weaker in the eyes of our enemies because we are just playing this political game and then you know stay in two years. we don't like what's going on the republicans get back in. We can just impeach. You know joe biden. we can impeach harris. We can impeach whoever we want. And i think you know it. We're setting a dangerous precedent. It's going forward And not understand the the integrity of why it was. It was done to begin with with our founding fathers. I is this all dangerous ev. We now we now open. Pandora's box that impeachments going to be at the drop of the hat if there was if if the same standards used by democrats we're used by republicans against democrats the answer would be yes Do i expect republicans will ever do that. No you know the one thing. they didn't never learn from trump. Is that you gotta fight. Heart and trump fought them hard. That's that's one of the main reasons he so hated and exposed republicans and democrats. Listen i i would argue that. Donald trump's election in two thousand sixteen was as much about the republican party being weak and and feckless and visionless and incapable of keeping promises that it created the door the opportunity the path for a disruptor to knock out seventeen other prominent republicans win the nomination and then won the presidency and you can see the passion which people support donald trump in large part because he made promises he kept him and he fights back now a lotta people are offended by him fighting back and they feign their outrage in the media but democrats usually stay pretty united as one big distinct difference. Anyway hang in there in texas andrew praying for our friends down there eric. The socialist utopia of california next. Eric how are you. I'm doing good sean. Thank you very much for taking my call. Thank you Try to keep it quick here so and get your answer First of all Yeah socialist california. But i'm not one of them but We have to get out of here one way. Or the one where the other. But as the Just complete sham of the impeachment in a one hundred percent stolen election My wife and i are you know. We're very conservative. republican patriots. The we are thinking of leaving america and we're not actors and let me give you a quick background before i get your opinion on this My dad and my uncle were freedom fighters in the hungarian revolution of nineteen fifty six and They literally had escape Or they would have been killed for sure and they come. Here is legal. Refugees became legal citizens. The whole whole whole nine yards I've been going to hungary. Since i was aged seven so i grew up In a communist country and Besides besides the election in the impeachment just all the hatred and division in this country. And i don't see going away going away anytime soon. I mean we're just we're just heartbroken. It's would happen okay. Go ahead sir. i'm sorry now in hungry They have probably some of the safest borders in the world freedom of speech capitalism. You know no pc. None of this new words every day like cancel culture. I can't. I can't even keep up You know it'd be like moving back to the thirties forties. And you know just we just want peace and Let me look. I don't have a lot of time. And i want to give you a full answer because you deserve one I would rather fix this country. Because i don't think there's a better place on the face of the earth in america and we need a strong america for the world to succeed. There's been plenty of articles written about the fact that twenty twenty. You know we have more americans now doing exactly what you're suggesting. The first half twenty twenty broke a record of five thousand four hundred nine americans again for six months. They gave up their citizenship for a variety of reasons. A lot of you know it's taxes. It's regulations a lot of reasons and i'd rather fix the country i think at the the left is already overreaching. And i'd rather keep all hands on deck focused on the things that we as conservatives no would work and be good for the american people and to to quote all of the democrats in the ten minute montage played last week fight and fight with all. You've got for the principles that guide this country to success and prosperity and freedom liberty because of liberty and freedom is it never stops. I would like to stay the united states of america. That's my first choice by far right hannity tonight. Dvr nine eastern fox news were loaded up. We have the three attorneys. donald trump. david shown. Bruce castor and michael vanderveer a big fight. Man it was Gee just a visceral added this on. Cbs over Oh just a little bit of ob manipulation of evidence okay. It's actually funny. We'll show it to you don. Jr. tonight dan bongino. Tonight jason shapes matt gaetz janice dean on the corona virus. New york scandal nine eastern hannity fox will see you then. Thanks for being with us back here tomorrow.

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Civil Liberties in Jeopardy|American Electorate Podcast EP 45

The American Electorate

15:23 min | 1 year ago

Civil Liberties in Jeopardy|American Electorate Podcast EP 45

"Audio presents the American electorate. Podcast your weekly home for a non partisan breakdown of the news as well as thought provoking discussions on culture and the American political process. And here's your host Gregory Anderson so I wanted to highlight this article for Matt Taibbi or merely. Because I'm glad that so. The mainstream is doing article about celebrities. I mean this is. Now's the time to have this conversation. While we're passing all these extreme measures to stay safe from this pandemic while they all may sound like they potentially just be temporary things like this as we should've learned the has like these measures rarely just end with the crisis. They always extend past the crisis. And it's it's never good to just avoid having conversation so I'm glad that he did this particular article and that's why I wanted to talk about it extensively The title of the Article Is Democrats have abandoned civil liberties of Lou parties trump era. Embrace authoritarianism isn't just wrong. It's fatal political. Must Eight and something I bring kind of Heidi at an not just highlighting us to dig at Democrats FOR SUBSTANCE OF AGGRESSION BY. I think it's just important because it doesn't seem like this conversation's just being given enough attention. So I wanted to highlight. That today started the pace image Sullivan the judge in the case of former national security adviser. Michael Flynn is refusing to let William Bar just department rob the charge. He's didn't thinking about adding more appointing a retired judge to ask whether the court should issue an order to show cause while Mr Flint should be held in contempt for perjury pundits ensuring a trio of former law enforcement and judicial official saluted. Solomon in the Washington Post Chirping. Flynn case is an over to a judge. Says it's over Yuppie icon Jeffrey Toobin Obscene and Yorker one of the resistance Favorite legal authorities described. Someone's appointment of Judge John cleese as brilliant. Msnbc legal analyst Glenn Kirschner said Americans O'Sullivan a debt of gratitude one hand to search far and wide defining non conservative legal annals willing to say the obvious. I e. the Solomons decision was the kind of thing that one would expect from a judge in Belarus George Washington University professor. Jonathan Turley was one of the few willing to say a Sullivan's move could create a threat of judicial charge. Even when a prosecutors agree with defendants solvent reaction was amplified by Google Letter. Calling for bars. Resignation signed by two thousand former Justice Department officials. The melodramatic grew email. Somberly reported as Munch's news is one of the more tired media tropes in the trump era in the process leak of the news at the drop case made BRAC Arana's sad. The former president privately told members of his administration who as Total Yahoo News. There's no president for dropping perjury charges and that the rule of law itself is at stake. Within one's opinion. Flynn has relationship with Turkey. His lock her up chance his hair. Whatever this case was never much about this no longer. The pretense their prosecution would lead to the split of a massive trump Russia conspiracy as pundits once breathlessly expected. News F- limbless cooperating special counsel. Robert Muller inspired many of that is just the beginning of the end for trump stories. That will someday. Filho chapters of journalism. Fuck ups one. Oh one textbooks. The acts at issue are caused. Flynn made to Russia's Ambassador Sergey Kislyak on December twenty ninth two thousand sixteen which he told Russia's to not overreact to the sanctions. That's it investigation was about to me. Draw until someone got the idea to use electronic surveillance one of the costs of leverage a case into existence in secrets laundering. Maneuver Straight out of Dick. Cheney playbook some bright person I illegally leaked classified documents to David Iglesias at the Washington Post then rushed to interview about the news. The record of his conversation with Bassa Kislyak had been widely known in the press. Is How deputy FBI chief Andrew McCabe put it enthusiastically. We want to sit down with General Flynn and understand. Kind of what is thought on. The compensation were Laurel and hardy team of agents conducted the interview. That's three weeks right every right multiple version of interview notes use as evidence because why record it they were supervised by a counterintelligence chief who memorialized on paper his uncertainty whether or not the FBI was trying to get him to lie or get fired worrying that they would be accused of playing games after another lead to the Washington Post in early February. Two thousand seventeen film actually fired and later pleaded guilty to lying about sanctions. In the Kislyak. Call the transcript of which was of course never released to either the defense or the public warrantless surveillance multiple illegal leaks of classified information. A false statement charge constructed on the risks edge of Miranda and the use of never produced secret counterintelligence evidence and a domestic criminal case preceding. This is willful. Were being asked to cheer. Where should cases were often to level the fences? Factually bogus or exaggerated but also indicative of Authoritarian Practices Democrats and democratic friendly pundits in the last four years have been consistently unable to register objections on either front. Winds case fits the pattern. We were told this plea was just the tip of the iceberg that would take the trail of Russia collusion to the center ice trump. It turned out that he had not restored. Ital- in fact none of the people prosecutors toss jail to get the Russian plot. Some little more than by students had anything to share. Remember George Popadopoulos. Who's alleged conversation about dirt on Hillary Clinton with an Australian diplomat created the pretext for FBI's entire Russia investigation? We just found out in new release testimony by Andrew McCabe at the FBI as early as the summer of two thousand sixteen fell. The Evidence didn't particularly indicate Popadopoulos was interacting with the Russians. If you're in the media and you're keeping score that's about six months before the industry lost mine and scrambled to make Watergate. Comparisons Jim Comey's march two thousand seventeen bombshell revelation of the existence of the FBI. Trump wrestle investigation. Nobody bother to wonder if they actually have any evidence similarly Chelsea manning insisted she already answered all carney questions about Julian assange Prosecutors didn't find the answer satisfactory through her in Jail Anyway. Only releasing her was tried to kill herself. She owed two hundred and fifty six thousand and finds upon release. Not The mini of from the birthday seem to care much about Flynn case was built on surveillance gathered under the five amendments. Act of two thousand eight program seems to have been abused on a massive scale by both Democrat and Republican administrations after our sodas twenty thirteen revelations about massive data collection. A series of internal investigations began showing officials. Were breaking the rules against spying on specific Americans via the NSA program were conducted too often and without proper justification and the results were shared with too many people including private contractors by October. Two Thousand Sixteen a Pfizer Court. What declaring that the system overuse on the so-called seventy-two searches with a very serious fourth amendment issue? Elliott came out in court documents at the FBI conducted. Three point one. Such surgeons later came out in court documents that the FBI conduct three point one million such searches in two thousand seventeen alone as Brennan carpet. It's almost certain that the total number of US persons worries run by the FBI. Each year is well into the millions. Anyone who bothers to look back or find hence how this program might have been misused in two thousand fifteen officials bride in the Wall Street. They made use of the Pfizer surveillance involving jewish-american groups as well as US lawmakers in Congress all because they wanted to more effectively counter Israeli to Obama's nuclear deal with Iran which even his birth advil. This is that. And it's all hope this puts the bed. Alba's to bed. Boma had no scandals other than intensity which is ridiculous in itself is a long way from using surveillance to defuse terror attacks or to break up human trafficking rings because again it always extends pass what it's supposed to. I can understand not caring about the pilot. Michael Flynn but the cases like this attorney s wall liberals people who were just a decade ago marching in the streets over the civil liberties implications of change on terrace apparatus into defenders of the spicy politician. The pundits across last four years have rolled their eyes at attorney client privilege the presumptive innocence. The right to face one's accuser the right to counsel and and a host of other issues Early denouncing civil rights as red herring exceeds for trumpism written a lot about Democrats record on civil liberty issues working on. I can't breathe a book about Eric. Garner's case I was stunned to learn the central role. Mario Cuomo played in the mass crush racist problem while Democrats also often embrace hyper shoes of stop and Frisk or broken windows enforcement strategies usually by touting the terms like community policing Assad at Nice to voters Democrats strongly supported the Patriot. Act Two thousand. One and Barack Obama contained or expand bush-cheney programs like drone assassination. Rendition warrantless surveillance while also using the espionage. Act to bully reporters and whistleblowers. So don't think I want to say about that is that I think everyone's like I said supported the Patriot Act in the way of the September eleventh attacks because we thought that this was only going to be used for terrorist and not for other things like they are now and we didn't think the program is still be around to now but again we have a long history of legal craig. Republicans throughout this time were usually as bad not worse on these issues but Democrats have lately position themselves as the more aggressive promoters of strong arm policies from Internet speech to embrace it domestic spying the last four years. The blue friendly press has done a complete one eighty on these issues going from sharing our stove to lionising the CIA the NSA FBI. Making on air partners out of drone surveillance all stars like John. Brennan James Clapper and Michael Hayden now. There's too many experts on. Cnn and unassembled. To cow there isn't a single regular contributor or any of these networks one could describe as anti war and I mean as long as it's anti-traveller two. Apparently it's all that matters. Democrats clearly believe constituents will forgive them for banning constitutional principles as long as targets of official inquiry are figures like Flynn Hall. Metaphor are trump himself and the process. They've risen generation of followers whose content Russo liberties is. How genuine permanent blue state has gone from dismissing constitutional concerns as a trumpet rose to sneering at them in a manner a French aristocrats as evidence of a proletarian mental defect nowhere has been more evident than those sponsor. The Copenhagen crisis were almost mandatory. Take apartments is that. Any protests lockdown magic is a troglodyte death wish the after effects of the Russian J. Slash trump coverage is everywhere press alad reflectively associated complaints about government overreach with trump treason racism and conversely radiate a critically gleefully tone when describing aggressive emergency measures and the problem. Some dumb Americans have accepting him on the campaign trail in two thousand Sixteen Watch. Democrats and trump the economic populism argument by dismissing all complaints about for by dismissing all complaints about failures neoliberal economic. This mistake was later compounded by years of propaganda arguing. The economic insecurity was just a Trojan horse for racism. These takes along with the absurd nick. Having other Bernie Sanders. Mugabe have allowed trump to position himself as a working-class hero sole voice of a squeezed underclass. The same mistake is now being made with celebrities. Millions of lost their jobs by government FIA. There's a clamor for censorship in contact tracing programs that could have serious long-term consequences yet voters only here trump make occasional remarks about freedom. Democrats treat it like. It's a word that should be banned from facebook. A recent Washington Post headline but the term in quotation Mars. As if one should be gloves to touch it at the trump era really damage our thinking to this degree. My family's in court team were only about a premature return to work and sure laugh at that. Shaun of the dead photo. Ohio protesters protesting the state lockdown laws. But I recognize the crisis is also raising serious civil liberty issues from prisoners trapped in Delhi conditions to profound questions about speech and assembly lowest to surveillance and snitching if this disease is going to be in our allies for the CBO freshman. It looks like that's going to be the case. Makes it more urgent that we talk about what these rules will be? Not less yet. The party I grew up supporting seems to have lost the ability to do so. And I don't understand why so. I thought that was such an important article as I talk about throughout the article. These things these measures don't just go away like we talked about that amendment that was defeated that would have required the FBI to get warm before searching our web histories but failed by one vote which is sad but again these are powers that they got into thousand one based on the threat of terrorism nineteen years later so I know the people listening to this podcast at Washington Michigan New York Some of these highly hitter states actually won the cost. You guys cautioned really everyone that some people may be scared and you may be scared about this pan-demic about this Z's but just recognize that some of these measures that were taking some of these powers that were bestowing upon the government. If we're saying this is GONNA last for a long time will not go away. We will not go away. Just know that the lockout measures that people are cheering. Right now may be used against you and I don't think anyone wants it. Okay that is the end of the American electorate podcasts. I hope you guys got something out of the article. That was the entire thing so if you want to read that one again of course. Ali that to you in the show notes. We did release another news episode today. Which I'm sure you saw your feet so if you're listening to this one I please go check out the other episode. We'll be back on Friday my friends. Hey Look at you. You made it to the end before you go. Please subscribe share the podcast with someone you know. Thanks for listening.

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Hurricane Dorian; The Comey Memos; A Gift For Putin?; Border Insecurity; Mattis Speaks Out; Let's Get Small(er)

Anderson Cooper 360

44:56 min | 1 year ago

Hurricane Dorian; The Comey Memos; A Gift For Putin?; Border Insecurity; Mattis Speaks Out; Let's Get Small(er)

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Current statistics with the storm winds or eighty five miles per hour sustained that forward movement is to the northwest at thirteen miles per per hour. We had not one but three different hurricane hunter planes out investigating this storm at one point in time that i won has now finally begun to exit and head back home. It was actually an all female pilot crew there. That one was checking out the upper level environment. That really helps us determine the steering. Where is this storm going to go the two missions that are out there right now. Those reconnaissance missions are taking a look at the center of the storm is it intensifying is getting stronger. Those types of things that data ada should be in shortly and that's really going to give us an idea of whether or not this storm is actually getting stronger. Is it a category to could it be getting even stronger than that. Here's a look at at the track we still expect this to be a major hurricane likely getting to that point and just about twenty four hours from now and john we are still looking at the potential for a category four at landfall in in florida in florida still looking at at monday tuesday. Landfall was the timing there and i know there is some difference in the models right. There is and there's quite a discrepancy actually so let's take a look so the different model runs that we have. It's shifted quite a bit. The american model was originally favoring favoring further into north florida now. It's begun a little bit of a shift farther south so let's take a look at the american model is on the left. The european model is on the right notice the landfall point point. They're really starting to come together where they think the landfall will be most likely that south central portion of the state but look at the times huge difference here john on monday at eight pm versus wednesday at eight a._m. You're almost talking a forty eight hour difference for the two models here in terms of landfall timing and that could be substantial too because the longer it takes the more likely it is to sit over florida and be much slower to exit out of the region as a huge difference in timing. I don't think i've ever seen that before so else and a lot of times when we talk about these storms it's important not only what category they are when they hit but also how long long it takes them to break up as you were saying their dividend idea what path this storm might take after it makes landfall right so what you tend to look at is. Let's look at how much rain is going to drop. Does that start to move out pretty quick because we all know we learned from harvey. We learned from florence that a longer. The storm can sit over the area the more rain it can dump. Here's look at one of those models again. Notice the stretch the highest amount of rain. You're talking inaccessible ten to twenty inches of rain notice how widespread this is. I mean you're talking about an area from fort lauderdale all the way up to jacksonville. This really does signal to us. Yes it has the potential to sit here for an extended period of time before it can get picked up in some other atmospheric phenomenon and then finally take it out so yes it is not out of the question for this to make landfall and essentially sit in place for a a little while before it finally exits all right allison chinchar. Thank you for that information. I know you're getting more data. Please keep us posted. This takes on even more residents residents. When when you consider it was fourteen years ago today that hurricane katrina came ashore and one legacy one of the few positive things come out of what was for so many people such a terrible experience. Experience is the idea that no hurricane should ever be taken lightly. A state of emergency is now in an effect in all of florida's sixty seven counties and preparations underway way across the state including and port canaveral along the space coast scene is loyal santiago there for us now leyla. How concerned are residents at this point. What are you hearing of those that. I've talked to are very quick to say listen. It is still very early but we are keeping be a close eye. We are monitoring an often. I've heard people say i was here for hurricane irma. I remember and i don't want to see something like that again. So so that tends to be the response from residents and businesses today. We spoke to one hotel manager who said that <hes> she was concerned over. All the cancellations nations that she's already received said that she'll take about one hundred twenty thousand dollar loss because it's labor day weekend. She was expecting a lot of folks to come in and and stay at her hotel for the long week and she was counting on this for her business. That is changing all ready so for businesses especially ashley here at the port where we are right now. They're already expecting to see changes in tourism. How else is the community preparing and i asked this lately because i was actually surprised to see video of long. Gas lines already right well. The first thing i noticed when i got here was the fact that many stores are all all ready limiting the amount of water that people can buy a spoke to the folks over at the city of coco beach and they tell me tomorrow they're going to bring in two truckloads truckloads of sand so that folks can make their own sandbags and prepare and i've also seen that they have waste management out and about picking up any tree branches ranches or anything that could become dangerous debris. <hes> should this storm make landfall here so people are already preparing. I do hear quite a few mentioning the what i said earlier that it's early but every single person that i've asked what is your biggest concern. They say a direct hit is is the big concern and now is the time to get ready leyla santiago. Thank you so much for being there for us. I appreciate it president. Trump tweeted about the storm today and it was quite a contrast from his remarks. When puerto rico was in harms way he trashed the commonwealth as you'll recall and here's what he said about florida hurricane doreen looks like it will be hitting florida late sunday night be prepared in please follow state and federal instructions. It will be a very big hurricane. Perhaps one of the biggest the president did cancel so a trip to poland so he could better monitor the storm joining us now is ben maller. He's the mayor of coco beach where leyla mentioned they are now getting ready mir malik. It was just two years ago that hurricane irma slammed into coco beach causing a lot of damage to that community even tearing the roof off your police department so what concerns you most just about this storm obviously the the storm getting is <hes>. These things have a mike of their own. So if you look at the models that are all over the board you have learned for those of us that have been there for quite a is best and prepare prepare for the worst and break that is the best of course of action and prepare now when you still have time. What is your community doing to get ready for doria. You bet <hes> absolutely now's the time to get supplies after birth it ready you know have some flashlights if you lose our which was <hes> quite a good scenario regan's that have been here awhile are pretty well versed in this bill. You know a lot of folks have correct power up your bread a little window august and boorda's whites all right mayor malik. We're having audio problems. We appreciate you trying to join us tonight but i know the message. You're trying to send your people as get ready now us today us tomorrow. Get the supplies you need and your experience in hurricane. Irma two years ago taught you that preparedness is the best course of action mayor. Thank you very much next up for us. President trump accused him leaking classified information of breaking the law now the justice department's report on fire f._b._i. Director james comey is out and you you want to see what it says about the president's allegation and combs conduct later. Will it be yet another present for putin. We'll look at possible new presidential that seems to leave the country that russia invaded high and dry your sweat pants are on for the the day but you're sick of microwaved leftovers and frozen pizza and her door dash restaurant quality food with a living room dress code door dash connects you to your favorite restaurants in in your city. Ordering is easy opened the door dash app. Choose what you want to eat and your food will be delivered to you. 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Director james comey bent or broke the rules but did not break the the law. That's the conclusion of a justice department inspector general's report on his handling of memos. He wrote detailing what he said where temps by president trump to obstruct justice and extract tracked a personal loyalty pledge from him. That's one key headline the other concerns. The president's repeated claim that director komi broke the law c._n._n. Shimon peres has been reporting on this really from the very beginning. He joins us now with all the details though shimon. What exactly did the i g determine komi did wrong here violated policy right that is that you don't circumvent the process. You don't go around the department of justice. You don't go around the f._b._i. And then on your own unilaterally decided okay. I'm going to release information because i want to see something done in this investigation and that is that we know that komi wanted a special counsel appointed pointed in this case and so he has said so as his himself that he put this out there. He leaked someone this information out there through his lawyer to try and get get a special counsel appointed and to keep things as you said john for call me look. He did violate policy. I think he is fully aware. I heard that he that he did that. The thing most important for him is that inspector general found that he did not leak classified information. He didn't give any information to the media of that is classified so he did get something out of this obviously violated policy is a big issue the inspector general saying that he put a basically people endanger by doing something like this. You're sending a message that others can do this and that was really the biggest concern for the one of the biggest concerns turns i think for the inspector general in this report and that they say that he was supposed to safeguard disinformation and instead he did this to try and create public pressure for that special counsel to be appointed a little more detail. If you can't shimon on the idea of the classified information he found the komi did not leak classified information. That's right. That's they found they found within the memos that did ultimately wind up in the press leaked to the new york times. There was no classified information the memo's themselves at some point after the f._b._i. Takes a look at these memos again after it gets out there then start taking a look at this the f._b._i. Does and they said you know what we're going to. There are some things in here that classified some of the wording some of the sentencing wasn't that all of it was classified but there are parts of it that were classified and so what they did was lies as we've seen them do another another cases day went back. They looked at it. They said okay well now. We're going to classify so at the time that komi how these memos certainly the one some of the information that got out there that wasn't classified at the time but then the f._b._i. Went back and they took a look at it and they're like okay. We're going to classify some of this so they did rated retroactively okay as for james komi himself. How is he reacting to these findings today. Well a critical of the attacks he felt that he's he's taken in all of this by all the accusations that he leaked classified information and in a tweet he says i don't need a public apology from those who defamed me but a quick message with a quote sorry we lied about you would be nice and to all those who have spent two years talking about me going to jail or being a liar and the leaker ask yourselves. Why are you still trust people. Who gave you bad info for so long and then of course he writes including the president obviously not holding back here. He feels that he has been attacked. Continuously accusations made against him of leaking that he should go to jail so i think in the end yeah as you can see he feels vindicated but still tough words here from the inspector general who said that he violated policy and i can tell you don just briefly. I think that for people at the f._b._i. They're happy to see this is part of it over there still another part coming another inspector general report. That's going to a team. That's taking a look at the entire russia investigation and that how that was handled and that is expected to be tough on the f._b._i. As well but for now i think having this part behind them for the f._b._i. Thank thankful for it a lot of them in the end do not agree with what komi d._d._r. Even those who supported him initially now do not believe what he did here was right more to come obviously inspector general reports that should drop soon. All all right shimon broke your best. Thank you very much for your reporting more now on this report the repercussions in the controversy surrounding joining us to legal analysts elliot williams who served as deputy assistant attorney general during the obama administration also former federal prosecutor and new jersey attorney general and milligram elliott. Do you agree with what the i g. Found here was essentially james. Comey didn't break the law but he didn't cover himself in glory. He violated d._o._j. F._b._i. Policies that's reasonable it does but here's the thing two things can be entirely true number. One director comey violated d._o._j. Policy and these guidelines with respect to information and how to how to safeguard them but also that we're in remarkable times and that the president of the united states senior law enforcement officials did not trust him to the point that vert a number of them around him needed to write memoranda writing down every word. He said because they didn't know he wouldn't lie. Even the white house counsel don mcgann and this is in the miller report. There's an entire section on it mcgann. Whenever whenever he was face to face with the president would write memoranda afterward because he wasn't certain that the president wouldn't lie afterward and so <hes> you know those two things can be true. Yes call me might have behaved in a manner that wasn't entirely appropriate but also the conduct of the president was so problematic that people behaved in a remarkable way well. That's it's basically the argument that combs been making all along that extraordinary times or alarming times as he would say call for extraordinary measures and but the inspector general's report addresses this which says there are systems to go through. If you have problems with the way things are happening. Yeah i think one of the fascinating things about this is that komi definitely only som- self almost as a whistle blower here but if you look at the way this went down i understand the instinct that i think relates to what elliott was just talking about which is to take those documents and to make sure almost an insurance policy. The president just fired me. Something is going on here. He's trying to impair investigation. I'm gonna take them with me. It's the additional step i think of leaking them and making the public that i think it's fair for the inspector general to say look you shouldn't do that and that there are other ways and i think again in comas mind he he's a whistle blower and sort of ran to the media to get that outlet but the inspector general saying like look you know there are other ways to think about doing these things and those weren't your documents to to leak to the media and that's because the inspector general's. I got to think about the institution and forever. They can't send the message that every f._b._i. Official can take documents home and leak them when he or she thinks sometime crisis exactly and they you get to choose. I think that this is a problem so i get to leak it. <hes> and obviously you know call me. Definitely i think he's sincere and thinking it was it was absolutely a problem and that he was doing the right thing but i i do think the inspector general is right on that now the other big finding elliott in this james thinks is the most important finding here is that he didn't leak classified ossified information does that shut the door on this forever because i have a feeling the president still going to accuse him of being a leak. What was it exactly and point. He didn't late classified information but you know he acted in contravention of d._o._j. Policy now not leaking information that he knew to be classified as what saves him from being criminally charged because as we know now multiple times including donald trump junior and frankly hillary clinton and the president that meeting that criminal standard is very high and very difficult at times and so certainly no he did not leak classified information but this is this is the drumbeat today and this is where the report is frankly somewhat fair to director komi. Tell me that <hes> you know this is conduct that if we wished to treat information as secure and protect the integrity investigations and frankly and protect the safety of d._o._j. Jay personnel yeah you need to follow those guidelines with respect to how to safeguard information and what do you make of decision to prosecute. It seems you think that that was fairly easy to make. Yes i think here there's no question that they made the right decision. There's absolutely no intent to leak classified information and elliott mentioned. They classified documents after her but it's also important to note that komi himself could classify information. He was the director of the f._b._i. He did mark to the memo's as he did not take those and so it's very clear that his intent intent was not to take any classified material and that he believed what he had and what he shared was not classify it consciousness of classification when he was doing what he was doing. Intentionally did not take that and so to try to argue that he intentionally did anything with regard to classification. I don't think the government could ever proven that case eliot. I'm not so sure at this point that any more could be done one way way or another to james comey's reputation. It seems that people have views now that are set in stone on him but what does this do for his legacy. Look you heard the term were shack test before and people are going to think about james damore. Check the ink blot test. Psychologists used people are gonna think of james comey and frankly weekly the president of the united states what they're going to think there are people who believe <hes> that you know james comey was acting in the interest of the united states because this the point is making earlier the president's behavior it was simply remarkable regardless of what you think of the president it's remarkable behavior when even the white house counsel doesn't trust him. There are also people that think that jim comey should be in jail. I i don't think anyone's view is changed right now but but again this was a fair report he is not charged with a crime so an shimon referred to the other inspector general's report which it's gonna deal with the fis applications specifically and then there's a whole other investigation about the investigation to begin with william bars looking into here. Does this report portend anything for that at this inspector general every time he's taking a look. He's found things that make him uncomfortable at the least upset at the most does that mean the next ones are also going to be highly critical. I don't i don't assume that but i would say that you're right and how michael horowitz who's the inspector general he's a stickler for the rules for sure and and he called out any single violation of the rule and he's been quick to say you know even under remarkable circumstances here's violation. Here's a violation and so you know i. I think he's going to call it as he sees it. I don't think that this outcome necessarily speaks at all to the five and the beginning of the investigation but as you say it's sort of extraordinary all these inspector general and investigations that are happening elliot. I can tell you from people i speak to who've been connected to the agency or we're still on the inside. They expect the next one to be critical. There's a sense out there that it's going to be tough. I know you have some connections inside as well. Do you sense that same thing i do and i overlapped with michael horowitz the second stint i was there. I think he's going to be fair but again. There's blame to go around on it. Quote the president on all sides so we will see but no i think it's i i would think it would would be tough just given the complexity of the law here but also the very hot feelings on that many people have and many people who believed they acting in the interest of the united states but at times violating d._o._j. Rules and as we saw just today the next report by the way expected in september which isn't that long away at this point elliot williams and meldrum. Thank you very much for being with us tonight. So the white house sending signals at wants to cut a significant military aid package to ukraine something that has critics questioning why the president appears to be favouring moscow yet again coming up with a key member of congress about this and other high profile issues facing congress when it returns from summer recess the cases. We gotta find who wrote this. No we do see that. We find the killer. The science defined out police used luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood the drama but we're was the rifle and which man was telling the truth forensic files the legendary true crime show is now a podcast join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. 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Join me out is virginia democrat gerry connolly a member of the house oversight committee and foreign affairs committee congressman. Thanks so much for being with us. I wonder what message good to be with you john. I wonder what message you think this sends about whose side the u._s. is actually on here when it comes to russia and ukraine <hes> you know what a good question. There's nothing even subtle about this. One <hes> you know trump is sending up smoke signals <hes> <hes> bigger than mountains for a lot of mir putin and for that matter for those countries who are counting on u._s. Assistance and support against russian depredations predations remember the russians occupy parts of georgia moldova and ukraine including the illegal annexation of crimea so this is a terrible signal to be sending but a very clear one. I have to say to be fair. Some republicans have come forward already and condemned the notion of blocking taking this aid but president obama had ever seriously considered blocking military aid ukraine. Don't you think that every single republican would be up in arms. Do you need to hear more from the other side of the aisle. Absolutely i mean the double standards among my colleagues in the house and the senate on the other side of the aisle <hes> are too numerous to <hes> to retail but <hes> there's no question that <hes> most of them choose silence or rationalization for policies that are frankly indefensible but in this particular case <hes> lives are at risk. Remember remember fighting is going on in eastern. Ukraine lives are being lost. The ukrainian people are trying to recover their lost territory and the united states ought to be standing side by side with our fellow democratic nation and with a freight frankly freedom fighters tourism freedom lovers in the ukraine in this does come on the heels by the way of the president at the g seven pushing for russia d be readmitted. Do you see a connection there <hes>. I think it's all part of a pattern. None of us really can fathom. This bromance between donald. J trump has latimer putin but now it's gone much further than that. This is enabling behavior. This is inviting putin uh-huh into the tent and turning a blind eye effect turning his back toward a russian a malicious behavior especially in ukraine and i think it's something that ought to be roundly condemned by all members of congress and congress needs needs to reassert as quickly as possible that two hundred and fifty million dollars has been appropriated. It must be provided to the governor of the ukraine. We'll see how congress handles that when you all come back next week i also want to ask you about the reporting that president trump recently told aides he would part in them if they committed illegal acts well fulfilling his demand to build a border wall by twenty twenty now white house insiders tell us he was only joking when he said that not clear but some of the democratic colleagues in congress say if it is true would constitute an unconstitutional abuse of power. Do you agree and do you think it needs to be investigated. I i certainly think it needs to be investigated. John is it an abuse of power well. Pardons are not a laughing matter and the abuse abuse of the use of pardons which is a pretty broad use provided in the constitution is deeply troubling. He promised he says he was was joking. His age who expressed concern that some of what he was asking them to do was against the law. He's well pardon. You don't worry about it. Go ahead and do it anyhow. If that is accurate he is urging staff members to commit violations of law crimes in in return for which he'll oh promise them apart that is itself potentially criminal activity on the part of the present potentially impeachable absolutely you you know we had a governor of a i think tennessee you know a number of years ago who went to jail for selling parts for offering pardons in exchange for something evalu- and that's what president trump is doing here if this story is accurate all right jerry connolly democratic congressman from virginia. Thank you very much for being with us tonight to appreciate your time is up next reaction from a former intelligence insider to new remarks by former defense secretary james mattis about his relationship with president president trump james clapper joins us knicks hi everyone it's poppy harlow for the last six months. We've been working on a c._n._n. C._n._n. Special documentary report and i'm excited to share it with all of you. 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Check it out today and subscribe describe on vaas files for more enjoy more tonight from former defense secretary james as mattis who resigned abruptly last december after president trump announced he would withdraw all u._s. troops from syria madison speaking out about his time in the trump administration as promotes his new book out next week. He told the atlantic quote. You don't endanger the country by attacking the elected commander in chief. I may not like a commander in chief. One frickin looking bid but our system puts the commander in chief in there and to further weakened in when we're up against real threats i mean we could be at war on the korean peninsula every time their star arching something joining out retired lieutenant general james clapper former director of national intelligence and a c._n._n. National security analysts he's also the author of facts and fears. It's hard truths from a life intelligence and director clapper. I wonder if you agree with that point. That's secretary mattis made that he does the commander in chief silence and i ask because your service in this country started in nineteen sixty one ended today. President trump was inaugurated but instead of entering private life silently you you ended up speaking out in some ways because you found some of what he was doing dangerous john. I did <hes> initially lee. My objective was simply to defend the intelligence community which at the time was in some ways still is under under attack <hes> by the president and having just left it. I understood how difficult it is for those who are in it to speak up and felt i had to <hes> play that role and i sort of follow the model of mike hayden who <hes> during our challenges in in the snowden wouldn't with the snowden revelations and and mike was very effective as sort of our unofficial spokesman thought i should follow that that <hes> <hes> that model i will say this is a very individual a personal decision. <hes> what gym did is is circumspect as is he has been is classic gimenez <hes> and i'll never forget the scene when he and the president-elect were standing on the doorstep third there at bedminster and i had to thoughts thank god jim is going to take this job on sector defense but it won't last jim is a matter man of principle and he stayed as he said he did as well as he could he could and i've truth in advertising. He's he's a friend and someone. I greatly admire on. The subject of it won't last in the same interview that we're talking about. General mattis says quote. There's there's a period in which i oh my silence. It's not eternal. It's not going to be forever. So when do you think this grace period might end for him. You know i don't know john and i thought that statement was very <hes> intriguing. <hes> i think <hes> jim mm-hmm been somewhat <hes> not to be an amateur psychologist here but someone internally conflicted and i would be very surprised if he doesn't doesn't speak out <hes> more explicitly about the president as the election draws nigh so i can't put a you know so obviously a date and time but i think we'll hear more from jim and i hope we do interesting because that of course is the date that a lot of people are looking at right now. We'll speak more before the election. I want to read one more passage from this article describing the meeting that led to mattis resigning because we've never really heard these details before reads quote mattis made his case for keeping troops in syria trump rejected his arguments thirty minutes into the conversation mattis told the president you're going to have to get the next secretary of defense to lose to isis. I'm not going to do it now. I should know jeffrey goldberg who wrote this piece is that none of those details came aim from mattis himself but still pretty remarkable scene now well yeah and it is while again as you point out john. It's not directly from <hes> gimenez himself but it is. I think consistent jim i saw this when he was commander of central command place a very high premium on relations with our allies. He's not one who believes that the united states can go it alone. That's why figured that with this america first approach that <hes> jim steinman sector defense was was limited and i think the the straw broke the camel's back was <hes> leaving leaving syria isis had not been defeated and as well kind of leaving the kurds high and dry who only did everything we ask them do it and did all the heavy lifting when it came to fighting and dying and i think that was that was it for jim in the realm of supporting your allies. I wanna ask you about the news out today. The president is considering blocking military assistance to ukraine two hundred and fifty million dollars worth ukraine and ally of the united states so what message would that send to the world and vladamir putin <hes> not a very good one in terms of <hes> the messaging to our friends and allies and of course <hes> you know this is a good day. It's a happy face day for vladimir putin <hes> you know we have. I believe the united states says a an ethical moral ethical responsibility to help to continue to support the ukraine who is of course fighting against the separatist firdous in the southeast part of the country and still dealing with a seizure of crimea and i it's been consistent policy since that happened to to support them and as well. Your previous segment is germane here. <hes> this kind of conflicts with congressional will james clapper general. Thank you so much for being with tonight. Always appreciate it when we come back. See why getting smaller is the biggest news possible about the next democratic mccain also who's in and who's out can't get enough football checkout bleacher reports original the animated football series gridiron heights. You will not want to miss the best sixty seconds in football follow biard gridiron and watch new episodes on the be our app the september democratic debate will be just one night just ten presidential candidates managed to qualify for the third the debate face off here is the podium order with the highest polling candidates nearest the center from left to right center eighty closure senator cory booker mayor peop- buddha jewish senator bernie bernie sanders former vice president joe biden senator elizabeth warren centre a combo harris entrepreneur andrew young former carson aurora and former hud secretary julia on castro ladies and gentlemen your september democratic debate. Let's check in with chris for more on what this all means and what he's working working on for cuomo primetime crush when we lost tv. You couldn't hear me but i could hear you yes. Let's the opposite how you wanted to also i was i heard you the whole time. I'm kidding. What do you mean war warranted by next to each other. That's the debate that a lot of people want us a one hundred percent. I think that if elizabeth warren tunes tunes joe biden what does that look like. It looks like him not wanting to engage with her him being to differential to the time clock him not seeming to have the same passion shen and sense of purpose that she has. I'm not mentioning ideas. I'm not mentioning policies because i think that party right now is grossly overestimating their value. Oh you in the upcoming battle. They'll be with this president. What does it mean other than what you and i are talking about. It doesn't mean that much one hundred and what fifty six fifty seven days before anybody he cast a vote. You know they're gonna keep winning down. They have to figure out what matters most to them but it's always interesting to watch. What are you coming up on. The show all right got andrew yang here all right for a little bit of this conversation that we're having right now. Where's his place in the field. What does he feel about the place of his party right now. Does he agree with what i'm saying about where they are coming up on this. We're going to get into dorian. We have one of the storm chasers up there in the plane. You know one of the guys how what their concerns are and what you and i will be heading into and we get in front of this thing yeah this track reason for serious concern all right chris. Thank you very much. We'll see a few minutes of next. He said it was the god's truth but a new report says joe biden it may have been truly mistaken about the war story that he keeps telling on the campaign trail twenty twenty twenty democratic presidential candidate. Joe biden has a war story. He likes to tell them the campaign trail but a new report says the specifics of his latest version are mostly wrong. C._n._n.'s are less is traveling with the former vice president and joins us now with the story on the story. Can you tell us about this. Well anderson this all stems from a story that former vice president joe biden told last friday at an event in hanover new hampshire he was recounting this story of a war hero who had gone down a ravine to bring back the body of a comrade and he said that person had told him at the time as he awarded him a medal that he did not not want to receive that <hes> a metal because he didn't feel like he had actually deserved it but the washington post is now reporting that the facts the details in that story were conflated that they were actually drawn from multiple accounts and shrinked in together into one incident but the washington post does acknowledge that the core of that that story the the one component that story that biden detail where he said that there was a service member a who said that they didn't feel like they deserved the award that that was true. They interviewed someone named army staff sergeant chad workman who was in afghanistan and did get a did get a medal pinned on him by the former vice president president so right now the washington post reporting that the former vice president. I conflated the details of this incident of three incidents into one so arledge. The president has commented now on this story and he seems to be pushing back. Yes yeah that's right john. He did push doc on this in a series of interviews today one with the post courrier local south carolina newspaper and in another interview with the washington post with jonathan jonathan cape heart. Take a listen to what he had to say there. What is the when i gaff when i said there was a young man. I tried to pin a medal and he said i don't want it. Sir he died he died. He died noseeums man. My recollection was that in fact pulled a colleague of his out of burning humvee and he risked his life doing it and the young man died that he tried to save now. Try to ask biden about this. As he was leaving his event here. In greenville south carolina he ignored reporters questions as he was leaving did not further elaborate on the details of this story that it told last week john alright or science. Thank you very much for joining us now c._n._n. Political commentator jen psaki former white house house communications director in the obama white house agenda someone who knows the vice president and who worked with him in the administration. What do you make of all this. Well vice president sadness been telling this story and inaccurate versions of it for several years. I mean back to twenty sixteen and even before that doesn't make it right. I mean he should be telling the accurate version of the story but really what he's trying to convey is his connection with military veterans. The men and women who are serving as everyone knows his son served he keeps kind of a record with him the number of men and women who have been killed in iraq and afghanistan and places of war with him on the trail every day so that's who he is and what what he's trying to convey you know. I don't think that there's going to be big demarcation points against him for combining versions of stories that were accurate <hes> you you know it's still he's still conveying that he cares about the men and women who serve in and that bears out by validation of of people who have met him and and even that that veteran <hes> i mentioned who had had whose story he was he was trying to tell the details are just not accurate though according to the washington post version of this which is why i think it was curious today. How vice president just pushed back completely and said no. I didn't get it wrong suggested if he did get it wrong. It didn't matter because the thrust thrust this story was right. I thought that was interesting and i'm wondering if that's part of the new world war has donald trump made it safe to say up is down in some cases well. Let's also <hes> that kind of pushing back also what we've seen. Joe biden do unrelated to donald trump over the past several months. When <hes> you know some of the statements he's he's may have been questioned or they've been a little bit off or he's made comments that have been offensive at times. His initial gut is to not acknowledge that that's who he is is <hes> as well so in this case you're watching a. I wish that he would have said you know i did have that experience with veteran. I combine the details but the point is that i care care about the men and women who serve of course you wish that's what he would have said and we have about thirty seconds left of course the other issue here is if he didn't remember the story accurately. Does this play into the questions about his age. Well i think john that gaffes in general. There's a lot of focus on them. I don't think they matter much unless they play into a perceived vulnerability ability and there has been this chatter of fair unfair about him being whether he's up to the task or not and this plays into that a lot we haven't seen that bear out in polls at this point joint even with gases made on the trail so it might be that people are forgiving and they don't care again it may just be part of this new era where in where things like this don't matter as as much as maybe they used to if they ever matter but we're going to have to wait and see on that jen psaki great to have you all listen. I really appreciate it a lot more going on tonight. With hurricane dorian reimb- bearing down the news continues well now hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime sir.

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