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"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

05:17 min | Last month

"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"He's not i your nydia now. I can't i just can't it is also this for years old. You've always had the same. I it i can't do it right. I would just say you're stupid and move also think it's interesting to me that you said you don't have to like someone to do a good debate but you have to respect them. I usually don't people. I don't like you you're right. You don't have to respect but if you going into a debate if you gotta be able to feel you can be yourself. And the person you're debating what is going to be at least on par with woodmen. Knowledge is on whatever the subject is. That's what i mean. There's certain people were like. Oh this person has no idea what the i don't respect them as much as maybe would another person so if it's a tricky thing but i don't make a person. I wonder. i wonder what it was about kellerman. That's the i. I don't know what it was. I don't think he listen. I don't watch the. But i don't think anyone would say like max kellerman doesn't know what he's talking like. He follows sports like yes. He may have outrageous opinions. Like if you want to say. I don't know you know derek cards. The best quarterback in the nfl like he's not coming out with like outrageous opinions. I so i. I do wonder if it's personal professional little both i. It's interesting that one person would say. I don't want to have this person debate anymore on the show. But we know that that's really the whole dynamic. I mean. I look if you're stephen a smith and you have the power to choose your partner and you feel like whatever reason it's not working you've had enough of this guy. Look i mean hate to even bring this up. But i know you're a huge fan of it. Mike in the dog one of the reasons why they broke up was because they had enough of it now. They weren't debating each other necessarily but doing a show together. All those years. You know sometimes the personalities gel you get sick and tired of one another maybe got to the point where they warned fiving his friends more connecting in stevenage wanted. It's just not working and let's find somebody else. Now that point i understand. Do think after awhile. You sort of get sick of people and you need to move on they. I think they did it for five years. Which isn't wow long long laws. If i haven't paid attention to what i mean i just don't watch i don't watch it. I understand speaking of watching. Have you watched any of the three episodes of hard knocks on. Hbo for top number. Two on train of thoughts. I am ashamed to say that. I have not all year long. Been saying football season starts when how hard not as you and i talked about it. We couldn't watch it on cuba teams orange one of my favorite shows. I have not a had the time or be made the time to watch it. I do plan on watching a little bit later on this evening but no i have not watched one second of it. I've been completely bored by it. And last night. Tuesday night. You know everyone on twitter was trying to get likes and re tweet. So they kept tweeting. The video of the first three minutes of the drone which was very cool. No it three minutes of the drone which was in fifty seven minutes of complete boringness. So it just there's just just been nothing there and it's like the i was going to use a word but i don't let me let me figure out the the fawning over jerry jones gets..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

02:36 min | Last month

"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"I want wanna take too much time. he's a year you know doing your day nfl. And all that. And i'm like okay. Man look i I just want to tell you that. I move new york three or four years ago and the way this works is i'm c. ram You know not not. Because i'm filling myself. It's just because i'm making moves in your city and Eventually i'm gonna be doing enough to where you notice my name. And he was like you know. Respect respect that me up and that was it. And i left my And that was. That was when i talked today so it was good that i need at any other point before that guy talking football. What kind of rush was it. When he said he knew you were it was it was it was like what pacino sitting new. I was alba teams like the football show man. They football fan. And i was like what time i looked at the house. Working with extra looked at cameron sits cup gal for second among the i said i said i said. Do you like miss patino. Yeah love football. He's gonna wanna show and sundays. I was like what's going on so Whenever i hear my estee like you are in it. And it's not football related. Like gino didn't say man. I loved it when you play with randy moss. He was talking about my working. tv. I bet right. There is a mark of a guy who has successfully transitioned out of one chapter into the other. So i had a similar experience where i interviewed. Tom brady once in person. This was many years ago. And when i introduced myself up trailer for sports illustrated right this called hawk lakes at the time. And he's like. Oh yeah i know it. I totally thought he was bullshitting. I didn't believe him for one second. But you know if it is true. That's pretty cool. But i but it may but for second whether was nice to be nice or you actually knew either way. It's kind of trippy. And it makes you feel good. Because tom brady even if he didn't know you didn't have to be nice. So that makes you think right there that he actually do. And i will bet you tom brady. Does tom brady. Doesn't say thing is just the same. So i bet you. He was a big fan of a big fan of yours. So good luck and have fun on friday brother. Thank you you too all right. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by disney plus disney plus to hulu. Espn plus stream all your favorites with the disney bundle. Disney plus has loki luca on hulu watch originals.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

03:42 min | Last month

"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"I wanna do that and be part of this team and i'm not saying i'm the missing piece like the the robert ory or anything to the squat. I'm just saying i'm gonna do my best to bust. My behind and proven earned the trust of everybody involved in the morning news over at cd. Yes i'm sure you'll be great. 'cause i i mean it's all about versatility on on a show like that too. I mean like you said. I mean one morning you could be covering a covert outbreak in one morning. You're doing a cooking segment. One morning you could be talking about the milk crate challenge. I mean that that's basically how goes on those shows. You got the show already. Yeah and it's funny. Because i said this kyle recently i you know i've always been from day one. I was a fan of your show. Always loved it and i said to him. I give you guys more credit for what you do on good morning football in the off season than during the i mean i'm not going to sit here and try to say it's easy during the season but you have the game so like a monday shows probably like the easiest thing to do. I watch you guys in the offseason. Just like i don't know how they do this. I mean that that's at sometimes. It's tough during the season. The story stories right so so we're basically coming in and adding a little bit of color. I mean the vibrancy of games within the sales the story lines that drama to injuries We just come in and it's like playing second fiddle or whether Supporting actor to The main actor of the movie which is football off season. It's tough it's tough the best. There's there's the gift and the curse the gift is. We have time and was a little more space. I be creative. We produce a lot of our segments In on top of that we can work on certain things that we usually get the time at work on during the season now the curse is that it's it's a bit more i'll just call it. What it is. I remember going to an nba game years ago. I was in los angeles. I'm in la like man that's so les- courtside. You know saying you guy. Kobe over there like this is this is heaven and i was thinking and i hope i came to a laker game with one of those great halftime shows. That would make this game perfect. I got all my favorite players. Watch it by looking at the celebs like Hope help. I don't get a lackluster halftime. So this lady comes And she's on a unicycle on unicycle. Lady evans she starts juggling. Juggling lady and issue calls out some plates now mike a couple of plays and then she starts stacking spinning plates in it. Looks like something out of why Cat hat you know. And i just can't thinking to myself that must be the most difficult thing ever to keep your models on a unicycle. Spinning these plates multiple hand switching hands jumping bold bold played the plane. And that's how i describe. And that's how i look at my mind jima off season like you may not know they tell me. They're like a good time but really we get done and we're just happy we didn't drop a play. You know what. I'm saying. We're just having we didn't drop a bowl because trying to balance information entertainment in the off season where there isn't football. Is i think some of our best work. This episode is brought to you by.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

05:19 min | Last month

"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"Great show this week to guests. I up nate burleson from good morning football departing. That show you follow me on twitter and retrieve a big fan of good morning. Football had been since day. One nate leaving to go to. Cbs to co host their morning. Show cbs this morning and he talks about the decision to leave. Good morning football join cbs. What is ultimately goals are got into The nickelodeon broadcasts that he did that was a smash hit. Nfl pledge year and nato's a tremendous jay z. Impersonation during the podcast as well following nate james andrew miller author writer. reporter discusses Espn what's going on with the peyton. Manning eli manning show who's going to be the host Talks about max kellerman leaving. I take and then we get into some curb your enthusiasm stuff and a little chat about the sopranos prequel curb and the sopranos movie both coming out in october before we get nate james andrew miller just a reminder if you miss any previous episodes please go to the archives. Check them out. Joe buck was on the show last week. Roman reigns crisanto russo. Two weeks ago. I in eagle three weeks ago. Bryan curtis from the ringer four weeks ago. All those podcast in the archives if you can subscribe that helps tremendously and rate and review. I'm going to start reading reviews on the pod every week during the train of thought segment which we also have following nate and james andrew miller. We do train of thought. Sal licata talk about hard knocks summer slam and This guy suing nirvana who on the cover of their nevermind album. So big show. Let's get right to it right now. With nate burleson. Right joining me now. I'm a sad about this but happy for him because he's leaving my favorite morning show. Good morning football going on to the cbs morning. Show cbs this morning. Nate burleson has been on the pod. Many times nate congrats. How you doing. I'm good i'm good. I appreciate your having the on the part again jay. Thank you so much. Yeah it's it's it's joyous but also somewhat sad week for me you know. I'm moving on to another job. But i'm leaving my crew. I said it on the show. It's it's the longest team that i've ever been a part of the most i've ever spent on one team from football. Perspective is for years so five years with k. colin peter and everybody else behind the scenes. it's it's a little sad is coming to an end for me..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

02:43 min | 9 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

07:10 min | 9 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"For a lottery ticket job. It's it's it's a great. It's a great geic and you know is espn is is the moat as big around. Espn as it was five years ago. No and So but i think that a lot of the people you talk to people out there all the time. I think that they're still. They're happy to be there. They're they're proud of their work. I think that they're probably not as cocky as before i think senior executive The other day. Tell me that look. It's you know it's it's not like it used to be and it's feel smaller and it feels and you you just don't feel the power that we used to have You know and he was. He was very honest about that. But that's because the industry has changed. It's not it's not because all the sudden there's a there's a different and new sports entity that has taken the numbers away from espn And now espn is is is that you know is kind of marginalized i mean people who work at. Cbs sports nbc sports turner. I mean you know if you're working on the nba. Show turn i mean you're you feel you gotta feel really good about yourself and you and there's there's great work to be done so i i don't know i think that there's a lot of people who still i think there's a lot of people who don't take their jobs have granted that's for sure for for you. That's that's that's very that's a very start in droves because and that's a pretty smart. That's a smarter way to look. I'm not saying yeah. I wanted to pose the question to you again. I i hope. I made it very clear that it's still an incredible job. And like you said the fact that you get to wake up and work in sports in itself is a privileged incredible and then if you happen to be one of the chosen few. That's on air or you have one of these jobs where you're you're traveling to watch games is incredible but yeah you know what i think you just hit on it. I think the differences and this this has always been the case for anybody. Works for a newspaper or something like that is you. Don't take the job for granted anymore. Espn where i think. Once once upon a time you must have thought if you got there. I mean maybe it's not quote unquote lifetime job but man. It's it must have felt like it was pretty close to what you were passing everybody in the halls who had been there for twenty twenty twenty five years these people everybody. They grew up together. They moved to central connecticut. It's not like manhattan where there's ten million people there. They're all seeing each other. Drop off the kids at school. You I mean a lot of them live within a ten mile fifteen mile radius of of espn campus and so and many state. And so i think that I think that that's something that now they look at each other. We're survivors and we're lucky to be. We're lucky we're still. We're still here and we're lucky to still be here. And i think that that's something that you know gratitude. Gratitude isn't a big enough engine in In society sometimes and I think that the fact that they're thinking that i think is a good thing. Although it makes you sad about the others who have left. We'll say this it was always this. Must've been a disney thing holdover from abc or something but like so. He's interesting to me dat There would be people you know executives. Espn who always had the new york office is a bit of a either hideaway or to sort of work there for a week. So you've obviously we've seen some talent or we saw some talent there in the skippy. Your negotiate to live in manhattan or to live in new york while working for espn so that was always kind of a thought if you if you worked at espn and you had access to sort of either working in new york either full time or part time you kind of had it off because you had to work at espn. You had the brand on your resume. But you know you you get to live in new york as opposed to having to make the commitment to go to connecticut. Servers notice suspected that connects the different world not to get to deepen. Espn culture but that's sometimes worked against people to because there's a strong army of espn owners. Who felt like those people who are working in new york and who were all running off to new york and they really weren't they they. They really weren't you know they die in the world. Espn and You know you kinda get to mentality there where like I'm sure i don't think be spent a lot of time in in new york. For instance where connor shell did though right. Oh connor of course. Of course mr new york right. Yeah you're right. Yeah no. I mean i have no doubt. Norby is a creature of bristol. Connecticut and connecticut proper and Yeah i would say that the product that exists today is a direct fraction of what norby williamson wants on the air. sort of. that'll be a podcast for a for another time. Is there anything else or anything else. You wanna you wanna hit on before. I let you go no i but i think we're going to be getting some. Nfl official news. I mean there's rumors all over the place as always. But i think things with the nfl would be Sooner rather than later and it's we've been talking about for for over two years and it's going to be with us for for a long time and You know it'll be interesting to see how it would work out and as a practical matter by the way as on a as a as a practical matter with jimmy petar was asked charge to do he has done. They have a much better relationship with the leak during a great position in terms of This upcoming negotiation and they're going to be an espn they're going to be an nfl rightsholder. It's just a question of what the the rights are. So in that sense jim Petar had succeeded by the way that degree with me. Well and that's a huge huge distant from. I think if skipper had still been narrow i would have overruled. but skipper. didn't want it skipper. I agree skipper. Would've walked he. He just didn't think it was. Yeah i mean he. Let's put it this way. He might have or would have walked like. I don't know if you could say that about almost any other media executive who sort of exists today with the nfl. but yeah. you're i mean you know this world better than me. I whatever john skipper wanted. I could not see disney. Not overruling that. John skipper could not unilaterally say. Espn out of the nfl business. That i just you know. Disney's not gonna i could see disney as a corporation letting that happen no but it would have been would have been very challenging negotiation. Yeah for for disney and for espn. For look i mean it's not like skippers laurence olivier. He would have had to pull some acting chops out. It'd be sitting there across the table from them. All right jim.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

01:35 min | 9 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"It was a place where every single morning we the the objective of the senate and particularly the majority of the office. We're to get things done that day and it was all about you know. Remember two o'clock. In the morning. Senator baker and senator dole and senator moynihan like republicans and democrats trying to do the social security rescue act to get it saved and to get it done and everything was eventually you know operated between the forty yard lines to make sure that things got done and there was an enormous level of respect that members on both sides of the aisle had with each other and i mean i had worked for a democrat before what baker. Nobody asked me what nobody ever asked me. Senator baker never asked me what party. I belong to what i belong. Boy there was no. Oh test It was it was just an extraordinary time. And yes it obviously. It had its problems and there were mistakes time but in terms of the decorum and actually the dna of the senate as an institution. It was just I feel i feel. I feel bad for people who don't who who can't remember or go who don't know that that actually used to be like that it's well said and how about the nfl rates. We got we got some ugly. Tom's ahead of us. Hopefully there's light somewhere. You're ready to get back a yoga. So you've ordered the essentials a non-slip yoga.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

07:59 min | 9 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"Espn and twenty twenty. One will look like and the importance of the nfl. Espn regarding the upcoming meteorites negotiation. But we're taping this podcast on the morning of january seventh after quite frankly one of the one of the darkest days for democracy. Certainly in my lifetime. I i would imagine almost anybody's lifetime and And truly one of the worst days that the united states has experienced some time. I'm not a historian not gonna equate it to wars or anything like that but domestic terrorism at the at its highest level in. If you're watching the images on television it was. It was awful to see a gym before we get into our espn talk. Which kind of seems mundane compared to real word. Real world issues You worked. I believe in the us capitol for a couple of years. I know you wrote. I believe you wrote a book on either working at the senate or you can sort of explain it but you know people know you for your work on sort of entertainment books but before that you you were in politics correct You the floor here. I i was yes i my first book was at the senate and i worked there for several years. It was the greatest job in my life. And what senator did you for fuck it. S i worked for howard baker winning the senate majority leader so i had the distinct honor they say in the senate of walking onto the senate floor every day several times a day and particularly in the morning when we when the boss open the senate usually at nine thirty in the morning and You know i mean it's I think it's something that people who work in that building and work on the hill. Feel it it. Sounds kind of corny. But you know it's just a really special place and it stays with you and so yesterday was fundamentally sad day to think about the the disrespect and our that was involved I mean obviously since ni- since eighteen sixteen eighteen fourteen and the war of eighteen twelve Since that no one has terrorized that building and invaded building. Like it was yesterday and this isn't a matter of politics. This isn't a matter of like you know whether you believe in this kind of policy or not. This is about democracy and respect for our democracy and our institutions are beautiful buildings and and the lives of those people who were serving at that time. And it's just shocking so want to ask you about that When you saw the images of You know broken windows and Paper strewn all over the floor people sitting in Congress people's offices and people walking through those halls with With weaponry and and stuff like that Could you put your mind in into you know you like in another universe jim thome twenty years ago. Whenever it was three thirty years ago you would have been one of those staffers. You you would have been you would have been getting the call that the capital is in lockdown. and and. here's what you are instructed to do. And like i can't even imagine being a twenty five or twenty eight year old staff or thinking. Oh my god like someone coming to kill me today right. Well i mean. I think at that moment. You're you're thinking you're probably thinking less about. I mean you're thinking about your safety but you're also just in shock that this could even happen I guess there's gonna be a almost like nine eleven level investigation here because there was. It was no secret for weeks that this was being planned. And the one thing that i came to to learn and to really appreciate about the capitol police is. They're just they're amazing people and the the level of security when i worked in the senate was was fundamentally different but the capitol police were always there and they just they they they were this wonderful group of people who really cared about the building and really cared about everybody inside the building and there was a very very thin membrane around inside the capitol to deal with those people and you saw the numbers that were you know coming up on social media and then in the mall area the day before and it's just was shocking and sad and we have to kind of trace the pedigree of what actually happened in the other way. Because i felt like a lot of those people were. They were utterly defenseless. And i think. I think there's gonna be some serious revelations about some of the things that should have happened. That didn't happen and and they're they're going to be people that are going to have to answer some very very difficult questions about why things weren't done and sometimes things are rather innocuous you know asper leaves has defense secretary and they say oh you know comes on as the new defense secretary. Nobody barely even knows his name. But when the call went to the pentagon for backup and not initially it was it was there was a no. I mean what is auto about again. this isn't about. this is literally not about politics. It's not about. It's not even about whether you're a trump supporter or not. It's about our institutions it's literally the lifeblood of our democracy and so it just we have to be very very careful right now at this time because This these are the scenes that we used to see in latin america and other parts of the world where we had made his car. It made us. It was morally repugnant. It was exactly what the united states was founded to to to be a symbol. Against and now i worry about those countries and particularly authoritative regimes looking at us now and thinking that and and using that against us. How can next time. We go on a mission to protect democracy in some countries someplace and we're trying to safeguard their elections. And what are they gonna say to us. it's just the repercussions are multi-layered. And we'll be with us for a long time. This is this is not over. Just because people are out of the capitol and outside the capitol grounds. This is this is just beginning. This is something that we're going to have to deal with for for for years and years to come and get smarter about agree You know make an awkward transition but Yeah there are some things about this. That agree with you. That are not. It's not about the politics of the moment that go beyond politics but the politics lit a lot of these fuses. Politics is radicalized. A lot of people. And i'll tell you one thing i don't mean we got y'all go ahead. I'll tell you one thing i am. I feel lucky. Is how and i was talking with a couple of friends who worked in the senate at the same time i did when i would walk on the senate floor sometimes with senator baker you you know you look over to your right and there was paul lacks out and teddy kennedy laughing together and they were. They were good friends. I mean everybody..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

01:52 min | 10 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"I think jim you'd agree is leaving. Espn at least in terms of financially. Right i mean. The guy's got generational wealth now and his family set for life. I don't know if that happens if he stayed is. Espn in fact it doesn't app now. There's there's no way there's no. There is absolutely no way a various times they to sales team at espn had difficulty selling bills. Podcast yes. I know that i know that i can have changed since then so that might be a little but my only point is that there was no way even when he was the highest paid employee and espn. That's that's that's nothing compared to obviously you know what he's done since so You hope it works out for everybody all right jim. Thank you as always. Jim miller james andrew miller you know his work from from all his bestselling books and his arjun podcasts and found on twitter. If he's doing any kind of peace or story he'll be the what are you coming up promote yourself. Now i gotta do better twitter. I i just You know that. Twitter thing i haven't i just don't even have the time for. I don't know how you. I don't know how you make the time to. I'm not sure i wouldn't. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Jim i mean it. It's generally speaking. Those who voided are in a better position than those who are on like myself too much. Happy holidays she of i'm bringing you back though for For the end of for an end of the year thing that will do a maybe the last week of december Or at the very latest early first week of january. But we'll talk about this year and and and do another. Espn writ large at the end of the month as well. Thanks as always for coming on the sports media. podcast thank thank. You are back in the studio. Thanks jim miller.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

03:45 min | 11 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"But i think that that's i think evaluation may hurt them. You know they're economic uncertainty. And so even though disney's going for sunday night right now is nbc to prevail nbc. Comcast fail they could set their sights on cbs sunday afternoon package and back into the super bowl. That way. that's one you know. I'm going to have you back on because the the nfl rights negotiation are going to be are going to be a little bit crazy just given you know All this is happening admitted Cove it and you know. Admit these networks and companies trying to figure out You know what is the ultimate number that they can. They can bid for this at the same time. It's the most important and most valuable inventory that exists if you still have some kind of you know television based content company. So it's going to be a. It's going to be huge door before we go. Jim is there anything. Is there anything else you wanted. Sort of just end on when it when it comes to these layoffs. It's just wants a having lived through many of them in sports illustrated in you know fortunate enough to keep my job. It just sucks. It sucks it just it. It never gets better. You always know it's coming around the corner and it just absolutely sucks. It's such a lot you know when i was writing the book I realized that you know people don't most people don't date. Espn named mary it. Because you gotta go to the middle of freaking connecticut you so you like you. You buy a house. You put your kids in school there. It's not like well. Cbs on the west side and Nbc sports as on fifth avenue. And you know you you kind of move around. And i i mean. Espn is is a commitment. It's a lifestyle. It is for many people where they go out of college and they stay there for twenty thirty years and so i think that one of the things that i realized yesterday that You know obviously painfully remember from other rounds is not only torturous for people who are laid off and they're losing their job but i also talked to people who you know escaped the escaped the layoff but are really sad because they're best friends and their colleagues from ten fifteen twenty years gone and somebody yesterday said to me you know. I don't even want to come to work. I mean. I'm glad i'm coming to work and i feel lucky but i don't know what it's going to be like without you know so and so and so it has all these ripples and certainly not fun for jimmy petar to be in this position but It all you can do. Is you hope that all these valuable people get jobs someplace else and they figure things out in a way going forward where this becomes Much much less. You know the exception to the rule then the new normal james andrew miller is a bestselling author of books on. Cas pants live. Catch his argenta podcast as well where he's the host. Jim wish the news better but But i appreciate you coming on today to talk about the impact of the espn layoffs and stay safe and best to help out there. You too you too. Thanks for having me all right back in the studio. Thanks to jim. Miller for coming on today Topic anybody likes really discussing layoffs but you know it is a business story and Sports media story. And obviously as jim said when you know what whatever sort of espn does is always significant news given its place in the industry If you like these kinds of discussions and if you like the subject matter.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

02:55 min | 11 months ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"Positive. Me and that was that the this could mark the end of the sports talk specialist. Meaning that not necessarily like stephen a smith who Who's going to obviously be part of i take or whatever that is and not necessarily even like what. Pardon the interruption is either with kornheiser and wilbon or post. Pardon the interruption but the notion of people who are hired. Espn sort of just to be opinion because they generally speaking cost a lot of money There's a posit there that that position may may may may be endangered as well as A significant reduction in studio hosts or they thought that they could just get serve cheaper younger studio host talent especially as you sort of decided before a lot of the studios in the last ten years been paid a ton of money so on both those things. What do you think. I don't buy it because ultimately at the end of the day Espn has eight thousand. Seven hundred sixty hours to program. And i that it could be just the opposite because a lot of rights are going still through the roof even though the numbers may not justify and even though it sounds counterintuitive particularly given the economic realities of these sports businesses. And yet at the same time you can't just put a slide up there and you're going to need in fact. I think sports talk is going to maybe have a holy renaissance because at the end of the day it's far less expensive. You know how many how many how many sports is espn. Or other competitors. Really going to be able to afford now or want to spend the money on the future. And if you decide that you're not gonna bid on sport you're still gonna have to follow you know. Follow up and program that time on your network and so. I think that you're going to start to look at programming and content that is cheaper to produce and it. It may not have you know. Twelve million dollar man like stephen a smith but it will have they will there will be a need for talent will be a need for content. There will be a need for provider. He branded content. And so i think that some of those jobs are just going to be reimagined in ways that will be cheaper even cheaper to produce and may not have the the kind of cash expenditures next to them in terms of salary for these people. You know whenever anybody whenever whenever anybody says that you know that's gonna go away and that's gonna go away and that's gonna go away. He's he's not gonna turn into net flicks. They're not gonna start. You know running sports movies at ten o'clock in the morning just because they don't have it they want to spend the money..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

01:35 min | 1 year ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"I hope you're being safe healthy taking care of each other staying indoors. Just keep doing what we're supposed to do. And hopefully we get through this together according again from my home so apologies if you hear any bad audio background noise anything like that. Going to have James Andrew Miller on today to discuss the curb. Your enthusiasm season finale and Some Monday night football. Espn NFL CBS. News as well We do the football I than we get to the curb stuff so James Andrew Miller of course wrote the book on. Espn knows that place better than anyone and has also done the podcast origins on curb. Your enthusiasm interviewed the cast. So He's an expert on both so In this podcast here we will. I start with paint manning rejecting ESPN NFL contract. And then we get to a review and evaluation of the curb your enthusiasm season and season finale. And we'll kick it off right now. With James Andrew Miller this episode of the Media Podcast is sponsored by. Thera gone muscle pain. I'm talking stop in your tracks. I'll never work out again. Oh my God. What am I going to do kind of pain? This is the kind of pain Dr Jason Whereas Land was in when he created thera gun the deep muscle massage. That's unlike anything you've ever felt thoroughly is an achievement saucer. That just tickles your muscles there. Hand-held percussive device uses a scientifically calibrated combination of speed depth and power.

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

02:10 min | 2 years ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

09:44 min | 2 years ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"Do you know of any other talent contract that had to be approved by the board. Like what group with Jon Gruden or Mike Greenberg contract of hit. Data's well yeah I think I mean I don't know what the threshold is. I don't know what the threshold is But you know look at. That doesn't surprise me. I mean it's not you know. They're not insignificant consumes scrooge. Gruden I think as last year was it six five. Maybe Greenie was it to. I mean there's like you know there's there's a serious dollars dollars if I'm a Disney board member I don't mind Hearing about that and weighing in on that. I don't think that they would be i. I don't think that they would put it down. I don't think that's in fact. I'm trying to think of a case where that's how. I don't think that's ever happened. Okay so a couple a couple of things here I want to get to. I've said this a million times You are worth whatever your company will pay you and if Steven gets fifty million dollars God bless the guy. I totally support talent getting any amount of money. Money within that context LEMASS A couple of questions one is someone bidding against ESPN on Stephen. A Smith that I'm unaware of where Stephen a Smith's camp camp would have leverage. I believe so Do you want to mention what you believe. Potential employees up potential place like zone or a Fox or do not want to go down that speculative road I can't because there was given to me off the record. Okay all right appreciate it okay. So so as as as the cliche goes all you need are two parties to create a market. And if you're telling me there's a market there that would explain why that salary dollar remember something though we remember something hold on a it with all due respect GRUDEN got six five. I don't know I I who wanted him. I don't think any of the broadcast network work would've wanted him. And sometimes you can just sometimes you know good. Representation can make the case that the property itself demands that. If you're going to be you know the I mean if Monday night. Football is the most important property that ESPN has. And if you're GONNA be the the guy in the booth You know that that's not a four million dollar job. I don't know how Gruden I this is. Nothing against Jon Gruden. But I don't know you got to six five He was the most expensive piece of talent You know at the time he he certainly outdistance. Still Simmons who was right up there and So I think that you know. Sometimes you don't even need a competing for us. I mean getting back to your original question. Look Stephen A. I remember I. I was interviewing skipper for the I think it was for the paperback version. ESPN book or maybe a follow up article or something. And I remember waiting while Stephen Stephen A. was leaving and he was leaving. The company was leaving the company. And and this was you know years ago I think a two thousand nine nine maybe two thousand. Yeah something out there. Yeah it's for the book and And you know and I saw him afterwards and you know in Stephen. I MHM way I mean he was. He wasn't morose but he believed that there were A brighter future and certainly. SPN had decided that they had they had enough and the fact that this guy I mean with the help of Rob King another was able to engineer. ESPN's AH there are not many people who leave ESPN and come back You know there have been cases. They're having cases. Suzy Kolber went to Fox Keith. Olbermann of course back and forth Other people but it to the degree that Stephen came back and then did what he's done is a you know freaking. We can moan remarkable. I I absolutely I and I think part of it is you know. Look skip. Left Jamie took Jamie Harvard's took skip to Fox and its tonnage game. I mean this guy is on all the time and he's delivering a certain kind of audience and it's it's you know every day and he makes a lot of noise for the network and he's into You know very very involved with Their properties Certainly they spend a fortune on the NBA. And he's involved there. So I mean you you. Can't you know you you can't say enough about how extraordinary whether you like it or not. From a business point of view how extraordinary this return has been for him. Well so a couple of things there that you hit on that I think are just really interesting and you. You know this better than me. Obviously given that your relationship with this guy's better tomorrow relationship but you know regarding Gruden John Skipper used to call Jon Jon Gruden Star like he would literally use that word. A silly isn't might be to the externally and when the president of a network obviously thinks you are a star then you do have leverage and you can set a market for how much a property is worth. I think Stephen a with many many management management people now at ESPN has that same thing. So in that sense that they're willing to pay for what they think is star talent correct whether you like Steven A.. Or not my last last part on this Jim and I I. I've put this out on twitter. I don't know if you've disagree with what you might have. I think you've tried to educate me on this. But I. I don't mean this to be a shot at Stephen a Smith because I really Ama- total supporter of talent. Getting as much as they can but it becomes very frustrating to me to see that what kind of dollar expenditure for. ESPN where a year and a half earlier. They're claiming that they have to cut one hundred one hundred and fifty people awesome incredibly talented journalists. Because they don't have the money for them that's what becomes frustrating for me is that. ESPN will always have money money when they WANNA have money and that feels like the the lay offs particularly that last. Layoff around the front facing people like Jane McManus and Ashley Ashley Fox. It feels like total bullshit because they work supposedly caught for cost cutting reasons but it's clear that there's money when they wanna have money for talent. Now you can educate gave me Jim. No listen. Obviously I think that's true to a certain degree I think that the thing that happened with. ESPN with layoffs was. They did a particularly bad job of of explaining meaning even though they tried so I give them credit for that. I just being. It was a bad job in terms of connecting to to people like us that a lot out of those jobs are eliminated because they were being eliminated. It wasn't to save money. It was that in the move from linear to digital. There's a whole different skill set which begs the question. Why did they spent money kind of retraining? Those people because at the same time that they were laying off people they were also hiring people and so there was a paradigm shift in the way they were doing business and what I think they decided to do. was you know if you were if you were a bricklayer. You're not given the chance to become a carpenter and if we're in so if the company didn't need bricklayers anymore then the bricklayers were let go and I think that that's something that's been difficult for people inside the company to comprehend. I don't think they ever decided that they were out of money though and they were very clear about it that they were gonNA still be hiring so you know. Look there's those particularly there's two big rounds of layoffs. We're oh you know we're really really difficult for for everybody at ESPN particularly of course for the people who are like. Oh I still think I. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I was just GonNa say I understand all that but again the whole paradigm shift is just total. Bullshit like Dana. Neil like isn't a valuable asset as in a quote unquote shift from TV to digital. She now works at the athletic and as I'm obviously biased and kicking ass Jayson Stark Ethan Strauss and just sort of don't even off the top of my head. The the people people who were Andy Katz Mark Stein. I mean there you know I i. I understand where you're coming from but but so many that's why it said they did it. Take a bad job of that. So many of those people so many of those people have post. Espn excelled in the digital space. So I I just I I think it was. I think the I and again this is their right as a company but at the end of the day you know they make the choice of who they wanna spend money on right versus. Who who they don't want to spend money on and a lot of that probably has to do with who they value or who they think has value but also probably you know like every other company? I guess relationships Epson you know. If you have the right people sort of protecting you you can. You could stay. Well I don't know because like how Schwab and scanlon and other I mean in writing. Yeah just people you thought that were just you know part of the DNA the place. How about how about Jerry Mantle? I mean talk about a guy who's part of the DNA ESPN WHO's now gone on to do private talent evaluation and it's been incredibly helpful to a lot of people in the business talk? Talk about a guy who I thought was part of the walls of ESPN. I mean that guy. You cut that guy he he he you know he bled George Bodenheimer basically listen. He he took care of Bobby Knight for the company. Well that's that's not everybody's perfect. All right he rewards work. I know another Norby Williamson Higher Ara. 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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

14:16 min | 2 years ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"ESPN NCAA and Saturday night. Live also has a book coming up. His the latest project will be a deep dive in do. HBO and we'll talk about that on this podcast. He's also the host of the origins guest that is also a cadence thirteen production option and Jamila right now working on a podcast about almost famous. The Cameron Crowe film with Billy Croup. Kate Hudson Frances mcdormand that should be pretty interesting. The podcast that Jim and I taped today we talk a lot about ABC ESPN Monday. Monday night football the the odds of ESPN getting Super Bowl and where that stands. We talk about Jim Jim knows regarding Stephen. A Smith's myths salary and Jim says it is higher or will be higher than what has been reported so that was pretty interesting there in terms of the. ESPN WE FINISH UP ON TALKING ABOUT ESPN employees in the twenty twenty presidential election and the terrain that they're going to have to navigate with that. I asked him a little bit about his new. Hbo Go Book Project Obviously Hbo Sports Histories incredible documentaries hard knocks boxing Sports will be a big part of Jim Miller's book and then and he's also working on almost famous as well so just one guest this week. James Andrew Miller coming up on the sports media podcast all right as I said at the top. James Andrew Miller has been a very frequent guest on this podcast. He's he's up there in the Adnan. VIRK Johnno rant levels of a frequency he is the best selling author of books on. ESPN and Saturday. Night live. He's the host of the Arjun pods are Jin's podcast on cadence. Thirteen gyms a big star canes their tans opposed to me his latest project will be a deep dive into HBO that was just recently announced. Or you're just recently came to the public so another one of these massive deep dive books from Jim Miller now coming on. HBO and his Newest List Origins podcast. That he's working on the twentieth anniversary of almost famous. So expect to see a lot of cameron. Crowe in there and I'll ask them to as well. Who else what other actresses or actors he's been able to pull from? That and Jim Miller joins me today on the sports media. podcast I believe from California. Well Good Morning Jim. How are you good morning? I'm out here in La Nice. You're hanging out with billy. Crude up. Frances mcdormand Kate. Hudson something like that actually seen Cameron twice a week. It's great what a live. What I mean I I always envisioned you and you're in L.? A. Jim in one of those scenes where you're I don't know there's a big pool in the Hollywood hills and naked. People walking around and a lot of cannabis that sounds like I'm just GonNa let it go all right so here. This is why we have you on. We can talk about almost famous all day. But you know this isn't the ringer so this is which is is your favorite publication. I know this is sports media podcast and so let's start with Some ESPN stuff. You you have talked about this. I think in various forms maybe even on this podcast as well but as we get closer to. NFL rights being negotiated. It being renewed. I wonder where you see or maybe you actually have done some reporting on this. What have you heard about? ESPN began making a serious attempt for Monday night football to be on ABC or for the NFL to push espn to put Monday night football on ABC. Where where does that stand up? It stands anywhere. Well I I've been saying for years that I think that. ABC's GonNa make a play for the NFL. And I think that the the question always have to ask yourself if we learned anything from the last round is. It's not just about the night it's about the schedule and and when ESPN got Monday night football. They thought they had gotten Monday night. Football the way. We all grew up with Monday night. Football and and it turned out that what the NFL did was. They'd given that premier schedule to Sunday night. Football and NBC. Hey and Monday night. Football without going to be the old cable package schedule that Sunday nights that ESPN on Sunday. Night so I think one of the things that we have to be careful as we go through this. The next year of negotiations is. Who's getting what kind of schedule? It's I mean. ESPN in many ways. Even though they push back on this they were upset. Particularly after the creation of Thursday night football they spent fifteen point point three billion dollars on NFL package arguably they have the fourth worst schedule Now they're allowed liars from time to time but I think they have have every right to be upset About this schedule given how much a they pay and so. I think it's going to be very interesting. I don't think we're ever going to see a super fall on cable. I think that one of the other things that's going to be very interesting. Just particularly given less moon visits departure from the scene and his great relationship that he had with not only Robert Kraft but the NFL TV committee that that CBS schedule On Sunday afternoon that's Sunday afternoon game mm-hmm which comes with a super bowl Boy that's that's that's ripe pickings. I I think that everybody I think. ABC is going to be after that you know who who knows maybe NBC. I I think it's going to be very very active very very provocative bargaining negotiations that. We're going to enter into so let's there's sort of expand their one of the one of the things Jim that ESPN Puts into market is that you have to get. ESPN obviously you know for all all the stuff they have but you know from football. That's one of the things that they there's a reason why that cost per subscriber is higher than any other Cambridge cable. Channel and part of that is Monday night football if this ever happens if we see A. B. C. as a carrier. Monday night football. Do you see that we could you see that as ABC having that exclusive or would it be would it have to be simulcast for it also to be on ESPN protect you know the cell for ESPN that ESPN is a valuable enough channel for you to pay your eight nine ten dollars per channel four. I can't see the same game being on both. Here's the problem with that. ESPN has a lot of the contracts with the distributors with the cable systems. They no longer have Some of those this penalties that they used to have and quite. Frankly it's one of the reasons. Why John Skipper had he stated? ESPN wasn't didn't want the NFL again. It was the biggest bone of contention between Bristol Burbank. He thought it was ridiculous to spend so much money. Two billion dollars a year basically on seventeen games james you wanted to use that money elsewhere and he also didn't like the perceived handcuffs to came with the NFL in terms of the enterprise journalism that he wanted to do and the activists journalism that he wanted to do. So the question becomes when you've gone from one hundred million homes to eighty six million dollars to seventy seventy eight million homes. Who knows what it is right now exactly but you know? I think that there's a there's a whole big swing. That's happened now in sports. I think broadcasters this is in the league's love broadcast I mean. Obviously there's a separate digital play but I wouldn't be surprised I mean can there. I guess the question you're really asking asking. And it is the essential one is can there be an. ESPN like we know award now without an NFL package attached to it. And you have to go back in Nineteen eighty-seven on ESPN had half the season. which really kind of kicked off their their financial might And we bastet. We may see it. I mean look if it becomes binary and the NFL. Let's Walt Disney Company. Know that they really WanNa be on broadcast. Then I think giving Bob Hager's feeling feelings about the NFL. I think you'll see it on. ABC rather than them saying. Forget it. We're not GONNA we can have on. ESPN and this seems. I mean I think the answer is obvious but the curious to sort of how you Off a year explainer. But what is the appetite tight for Bob. Eiger Jimmy Taro to get a super bowl on ABC. And how much would that be worth to them. Yeah I mean listen I think I think that I you might be seen a situation where they have a broadcast and cable package. It was something that people thought they were going to do. The last time but unfortunately given given Michael Eisner's departure and the fact that Bobby Wagner didn't have the job and at the time they were losing about one hundred seventy five million dollars on Monday night football and I think that Bob Eiger correctly didn't want to go in front of the Disney board and say listen. I think we should stay with. ABC football and spend the money on ESPN when it was proceeds as a losing proposition. And he didn't have the job so he's got the job he's got an amazing say and he he still likes the NFL. So you could go. You could see you know they get the ABC package. They get the Super Bowl with that and then they have a schedule with the Prehistory and am I being too much of a cynic to I would never say that. ESPN's not GonNa do hard end journalism on the NFL as the rights deal comes up because I I think that would be too cynical. But am I being a little bit too. Much of a cynic where you know. Maybe if it's a question of hey do we do this story now. Do we do a story in two thousand twenty four maybe something gets pushed back a little bit. I optical early I do I I don't WanNa say. ESPN ESPN BECOME NFL PR. But I do think that the How do I say this gym? I do think that people people who cover the NFL are very aware of how. Jimmy Taro and Bob biography relationship. Is that fair to say. Yeah I mean look Jimmy. Got The job. There were two things that were really really important. One was repair the relationship with the NFL. And we know what that means and the second is is get politics there hell out of ESPN so I think that you know that's not to say I know that. ESPN gets rather aggravated. When there's a sense that you know they don't do anything that's tough on the NFL? But I think that look if you if you really boil it down when you have a relationship with the NFL and when you want to continue to have a relationship with the NFL. There are certain things that you know you can do that. Prove deleterious serious to your chances of continuing to do business with them. And that's what's happened. I think that it's not to say they haven't done anything difficult. But I think that there. They've just managed the relationship with Park Avenue much better and in terms of their clear -ality and also in terms of some journalistic average. Yes and again you know it always get like the U. There's always stuff going to be covered and what I found is the NFL really sort of as an entity entity they're only bothered by certain stories and never going to be bothered by player discipline or people complaining about the rafts. I mean they don't like it but like that's sort of the day to day. It's it's certain stories that really impact their bottom line that that bothers them Okay speak let's move on to another subject because I think this is something that and I saw you tweet about and you might have some Additional reporting Andrew Marsh in the New York Post reported that Stephen Emanates Smith's annual salary. Her new salary will come in just short of eight million dollars as part of a new deal Unquestionably Lee Stephen. A Smith I think is the face. ESPN if there is if one can be if a company that big can have a singular face and they really don't but in terms of the most most visible front facing on air person. It's definitely now Stephen. A Smith and I think his salaries commensurate to that. I don't think there's you correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I think there's an on air person who makes more money than Smith so a couple of things here one. You suggested that you think the salary number is is different than what they want Andrew reported and then secondly what do you make of like that kind of dollar allotment to a singular talent. Yeah look I wasn't trying to throw Andrew under the bus. I happen to disagree. I mean I just my reporting different. He's got his reporting. I got my reporting one of us over your right and if I'm wrong I'm wrong You know I think it's going to be more and I think it's going to be significantly more so so he says it's eight you know we'll we'll we'll Donald. That'll play out very very soon. What will hold on? Just what do you think that suggest one that the contracts not signed. And if it's not sign what do you think. Roughly what do you think the dollar amount will be annually. Well this contract big it has to be approved by the Board Okay and so in terms of dollar figures. What are we if it's not around a million what's what what do you suggest the number will be around I'm talking double digits. Wow over ten million and I'm talking five years. Wow all right that's a signal and so this kind of contract contract has to be approved by the Disney board. So this goes goes above Jimmy Patera. I believe so interesting. Wow Do you before we move uh-huh because I honestly don't know this..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

04:06 min | 2 years ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"Everybody. This is Richard. I'm welcome. The sports media podcast producers always Pellegrino two segments this week. But I think you really gonna find that interesting. I up this James Andrew Miller, the best selling author of books on ESPN, Saturday Night, Live and CA and someone who is chronicled ESPN for more than a decade. Now, we go pretty deep on the firing bad NAN Virk and as you'll see from from Jim. Miller's passion and fire on this podcast to say he to say that he believes this is a over punishment would be quite the understatement. So we get into that. And I think you're gonna find that really really really interesting after that is Chad fan of the Boston Globe and AJ Peres of USA today. Both of those guys cover media, and we talk about the Super Bowl viewership ninety eight point two million linear television, super super low, and we get into the reasons as to why we think that happened and all. Both of those guys also give their opinion on what went down with Adnan Virk, so Jamila for about forty minutes or so and followed by Chad Finn and AJ Peres coming up on the sports media podcast. My guess this week is a familiar one. It is bestselling author and writer James, Andrew Miller. He is the author of many books that people are familiar with on this podcast, while the oral history of Senate live CAA ESPN, of course, and he is the host of the Argentines podcast. And there is a new Arjun podcast next month. Check that out on cadence thirteen apple podcast, etc. Jamila welcome back to the podcast. Thanks for having me. All right. So we're going to be we're going to do this entire entire podcast on Adnan Virk and ESPN's decision. Earlier this week, or I guess I should say yes PS decision last week is we're taping this to fire. Adnan Virk for what they termed as as leaking as providing proprietary information to a reporter credit, Andrew Martian of the New York Post for breaking the story of the firing. And then getting the details of what happened check that story out a think fair to say, I'm Jim Nile sort of expand on it. But the the main facts in in Andrew story are certainly correct. But but of gives an brings up a lot of a lot of an interesting places to go to especially for a place that has made its bones and made its money and made its fame on sources providing information to them, and that is ESPN. Our Jim I want to start at the beginning. And that is let's just sort of go generalize. What was your reaction to and and Virk being fired? And and how do you look at that situation while it made me carsick, and I think you know, the truth is that. We all know that. There are every day. There are a lot of conversations that happened between employees of ESPN executives producers talent, otherwise on background with creatures like us. We also know that this is a guy who would work there for nine years. He bled ESPN. He's got four young boys. He's got a moral compass, despite the fact that some people now are saying, otherwise, and here's the other thing too. Which is how the fuck did that get leat? So we're talking about a situation where somebody is fired fired not suspended fired for being on background, which basically is confirming something, and we'll get into that later, and then somebody from inside ESPN leaks to the press. And so it's not even like this guy..

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"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

04:39 min | 2 years ago

"james andrew miller" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

"Oh, Chris Corcoran and the entire Kate. Well, congratulations on your transition from SA athletic, my transition from mediocre to above average. All right. Jim Miller is a bestselling author as you know, Google Books. He's on Amazon, he's all over the place. He's the host of the Arjun podcast last big on with sex and the city, which I'm not a big sex in the city fan. But the people who listened to that told me, it was pretty awesome and super honesty from Sarah, Jessica, Parker and others. So if you're sex the fan check that out and also obviously the yard and stuff. Nick Sabin and and everything else on there. He's just good apple podcasts or Stitcher type Arjun with Jen. I don't mean to do a blatant plug. But I did do I did do a podcast on ESPN social media, and they wound up being I'm glad that it's a lot of tension because every everybody who cooperated from ESPN. It's probably I don't know probably fifteen people interviewed including skipper Djamil sage other get along. You got a lot of the players on that. It was if anybody's interested in how social media kind of evolved in devolved at ESPN, please listen, and let me know what you think. Check that out. And let's Jim Miller gets invited to the biggest podcasts in the game. The Bill Simmons's, and you know, the the people that level so for him for him to slum on this small. His fantastic. And we appreciate it. James, Andrew millage Miller. Thank you as always for your time. Thanks for having me. All right back in the studio. My thanks to James, Andrew Miller. Jamila for coming on the podcast. He's been on pretty much about as much as anybody except for John O ran, and it's always interesting discussion with him about ESPN. I appreciate his time. And he's got a a mega popular podcast origins. So make sure you check that out. The the producers at cadence thirteen doing amazing job with that podcast. That is really really labor intensive obviously Jim does great job of narrating it and putting it together and the booking, but that is that is really impressive production, quite frankly Macharia than this one. No fence to my buddy, loophole green. Oh, but that is some hard work that those guys do for Arjun the previous podcasts. If you wanna check them out, the one before this one was Chelsea genes of the Washington Post in Bruce Feldman, Chelsea as an interesting story in that. She is she's leaving the Washington nationals beat which has been on for a number of years to cover politics. She's gonna cover the twenty twenty election. One of the candidates that was. As really interesting just how that works the Washington Post in that's really cool before that a MBA roundtable with Howard Beck. Candice Buckner and shirt show. He three very prominent via writers that was a lot of fun. If you're interested in sort of in how the NBA's covered, and what happens there check that out Tom Vertucci before that Rebecca Lobo in China Robinson on women's best coverage in the states, and then Troy Aikman Kate Abdo. Rachel Nichols, Candace park Mill Hill, Renee young and many others just head to the sports media with Richard I page, please leave us a review that really really helps keep this podcast around. And obviously subscribing is is the reason it exists. One quick note before we go, and I I wanna wish everybody I will happy new year. And the best to you for twenty nineteen my family moved from New York Toronto in twenty eight team. So it was a really major year for us. But a Toronto's been incredibly welcoming candidates just an amazing nation, and so the shadow to everybody who's been so great to us where we've made this this pretty mega move in our lives. So one last note here that I just want to make note of couple of weeks ago. I sent out a tweet not not over my feed. But I responded to a couple of former colleagues of mine it's Portugal straighted, where I said to them that while I know it's not everybody's style. I was hoping I saw more people from Sports Illustrated support our old can't our old colleague Maggie gray who Maggie Griffey. Those of you know, as a WFAN sports talk host in New York City. She's on the show right before the Mike francesa show. One of the great colleagues. I've had during my career just an incredible professional so super talented..

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