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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

05:37 min | Last week

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The NBA Show

"Yeah i mean. I get the the horford williams starting frontcourt from a personnel standpoint because they started want joe hernan gomez Last night or monday. Night at the four. And like i guess. I don't see another easy pathway to stretch for on this roster if they don't wanna do that my concern is that like if you're playing two bigs like one the spacing is going to be probably pretty cramped if you're not gonna make up for it like if you're playing smart with those two guys like is everything just going to require more of robert williams to understand like where he's supposed to be at all times and like the other part of it is like can you count on to be consistent on both ends every game and like i don't know if that's the case in point like he was over seven in the preseason In his first game in its preseason whatever but you would hope that like a guy that they're counting on shows a bit more. And so i don't know i wonder if this is ultimately just gonna lead to the al horford at center revolution where it's like. They're already talking about him as a captain and like how he knows. Everything's ready for a bounce back year and so maybe that's for the best this season that like horford just man's the center position and williams just comes along slowly on the second unit again but like i don't know like does that. Increase their ceiling to the point. Where you're feeling good about them competing with the top of the east again. I think we've come too far. I think rob williams is at the point where his impact is just outweighing his mistakes like he's gonna jump at symbolic he shouldn't he's gonna take some shots he shouldn't but he just does things that team that no one else can. I don't think you can put him back in the box at this point. I think you need to start. Emmy the play him. A fair bid again his body permitting. The health and injury stuff has always been caveat him but if he's out there i think that can work and in terms of what their their roster and rotation could look like part of the reason you start horford is just because of what it means for your second unit. You know if you're gonna if they're going to be any time in the game to go big. The beginning of the game is the time to do it when the biggest dudes are on the floor when you can match up the best i mean you don't wanna play horford and in his cancer together. That's that's not working and so you're really looking at are. we're going to start horford. At the four are we starting as you said juancho. Hernan gomez at the four. Which i don't love. Are we going to start dennis. Schreuder and marcus smart in the backward together and move tatum and brown into our four door forward spots. Maybe that works for them. I don't know it's it's gonna take some maneuvering. But i love the idea that we're going to get to see who emerges doku is as a head coach. This is an exciting season. Because we're getting a lot of first time head coach of former players getting their first crack at this. We're going to see him. And wes unseld and willie green and jamal moseley all these guys to see who they're going to be as nba head coaches and so guy who's well respected. Well liked as an assistant. This is a very different job. And it's gonna take a lot of juggling into make all these different pieces work and we haven't even bothered talking about brown and tatum because they feel like known commodities at this point But you know. I think what's hell boston back in the past is that i don't think either one of those guys have shown themselves to be a legitimate quote unquote superstar in the sense. That yeah i score. But i also create very easy looks for others. Neither one of them has ever become. And you wonder you know. Maybe tatum becomes that kinda guy this year. Who knows. I've always been less. You know less optimistic of that than other people have been in the past. But you know. I've been wrong about plenty of things before. So if he could become that type of playmaker where it's like not only in my threat to score one on one but when i do draw hell when i do puncture the defense when i do bend the defense i'm able to pinpoint in generate quality. Looks for the guys around me. He becomes that kind of guy. That's when you start thinking about this in a different way right if he becomes a legitimate superstar where you have to send to and when you do he destroys you for it That makes this a completely different proposition. But they have never shown themselves either of them. The be that type of player. And that's the difference is when you're asking of what you're asking of tatum. And brown has playmakers is can they can beat you when they draw to as you said we're not asking them to do incredibly complicated reads sophisticated stuff it's like can you consistently beat doubles. Can you take this easy stuff. Because developmentally i think asking wing guys to become next level. Playmakers is just not super reasonable. If they haven't shown the aptitude for it. We have this conversation with guys like brandon. Ingram all the time to or it's like can they evolve in this way. Can they change their games in this way or that. If you're not that guy is not a matter of putting in time in the gym or looking at film. It's about the way you're wired the way you're wired to see the game. Tatum and brown do not operate in that way. So then it's about okay. What can we do to you know to leverage the attention. They get against opposing teams. That they should be able to do and while to see if they can take some steps forward in that regard this season i guess the question then is like did they get enough supplementary playmaking with the shooters like with smart in in horford and i guess rob williams Like do you think there's enough around them or in like do you think last year like the problem was something a bit more tactical or was it something a little bit more juju as where or is it leadership and all of a sudden i'm mean da vinci did non Basically you tatum brown..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The NBA Show

The NBA Show

02:12 min | 3 weeks ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The NBA Show

"We have so far to me suggests he might be just a guy and the the you know the faster we settle in with that. The better off. We're all going to be. But i don't know that window carter juniors any great shakes. It's really hard to take his time in orlando so far brief as it was at face value just because the magic were so bad and so irrelevant by the time he got there but of the options. That feels like the one. Yeah i wanna be. Look i wanna be positive about mogambo because you know he is a new york city guy. In new york city basketball is basically dying on the vine here but look there has been no proof of concept with him. None like what has he done in the nba. That would that should get us excited about what he could possibly be in the future. He's shown us nothing like there's nothing to point out. There's not like well. He did have a stretch games where he made a budget shout tour he well. He did show some rim-protector ability. Well he did nothing. There's been nothing to write home about. So it's hard for me to say that. He's going to emerge as the center option. Here robin lopez to me. Seems like the safest bet does that. He's always playing and even last year when he played. He gave the wizards some modicum of rim protection reliability and consistency at that position. But to me it has to be jonathan isaac. I feel like if he's going to be optimized in what he's shown specifically defensively as a switch ability. Type of guy Somebody that's able to challenge people vertically. When they do get to the cup he has to play center. That's what's going to make him the best version of himself and you gotta let improve that he can do that even coming off of a tough. Acl injury so to me. It is jonathan. Isaac robin lopez is probably the pick for the steve clifford. Magic but for jamal moseley magic. It's wendell or it's you know hopefully healthy jonathan isaac. I mean that's the question with isaac. Like what is his best position and i think aren't is center. Yeah okay and so..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing

Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing

04:34 min | 3 weeks ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing

"It's kinda just like seeing york. You know kinda taken. Everything in being with family friends came down So that that was fun and then after that it's been nonstop. I mean on the go getting ready. I mean the season has come really fast. I you know the fact that we're gonna play a game about couple of weeks here two weeks. Three weeks is crazy In i've been living out hotel. Sense draft went home for about five six days now only time. I was in house so But now it's been good. It's been funny learning and getting to meet everybody on vets on the team. The young guys building to corroborate their. That's they have vets on orlando's a couple best. We got our guy. Rollo rolo is one of the wise run head every day and do not. I forgot the robins air. Joe let me say this. Let let let's rewind a little bit. Jamal moseley jamal. Moseley is a great dude..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Woj Pod

The Woj Pod

05:17 min | 2 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Woj Pod

"You know the things that i was saying or the things that i did made the guys feel that way and it changed because it was so consistent it changed my prayer about the next job that if i were afforded that opportunity that i would get i would ask god in prayer time to give me a job that i was excited about an people that were working with us in playing flora's would be excited to come and play for us in and work for us and when you hear that about yourself from the players you love and respect The only thing you can do is change and growth and try to figure out ways that you can grow. And i'll never forget. We were in a meeting in san antonio and i would go from management meetings to coaching. Meetings are seeing pop. Gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to work in both areas. You know they gave me a title. That was way above my Anything that could have ever imagined. But for the most part was in every area of the organization and i was in a coaching meeting one day and pop said he said look. If the rule stifled talent. You need to change the rule and it was like an opinion. I thought like you know. I thought i had like me music and somebody had a heart and i was looking around the room to see if anybody caught it and nobody really had that look on their face like i did and i realized that it was for me and he wasn't talking to me but it was something that really impacted my heart and i looked at. I had a chance to look at myself and thought about the rules. And the things that i was trying to do. If those things were stifling talent than it was on me to change the not diminish the talent and. That was a moment for me. When i wasn't in a position of coaching. Certainly not as head coach that helped me to reevaluate and hopefully grow from where i was as a coach to hopefully where i'm approaching now and we're approaching now monty is people are out doing. Coaching searches this off season and what. I heard a lot of with the people hiring coaches and with candidates who were interviewing for jobs. Is we want the next monty williams. And i think it's just so ironic that the monty williams was struggling to sell monty williams for for a short period of time and these processes. I think your last when you went to philly you left san antonio and he went to philly with brett brown for a year and then it felt it changed. You were back on the bench and philly. Now you know there were multiple teams and i think you had multiple opportunities to be a head coach. You weren't looking for one offer there. Were it changed. But all of a sudden i think the league seven of the coaches hired this off season are african. American five were first. Time head coaches Just like you were coming from portland to new orleans a while ago and not just ex players but also some coaches some which i think is even more progress and maybe people don't talk about as much some young african american coaches who were not prominent ex players who became first time head coaches. Jamal moseley in orlando west until junior in washington we played at the collegiate level. Jamal played professionally. But we're not nba players. They didn't have they weren't a first round. Pick like you or or maybe a hall of famer like chauncey billups is going to be and and it felt like something's changed in the last year that that i think your success and the success of tai lue and the success of You know nate mcmillan getting another opportunity and making a great run without hawks team It shouldn't take this but but perhaps it did but it felt like it was a different day in the nba hiring circles this season. Yeah i was just grateful to see those guys get their opportunities And if you know my failures and growth. Keep those guys from making the same mistakes i've made. I'm i'm humble. That can be a part of that that process in that equation. And still you know feel like guys like sam can sell and darvin ham or guys that i'm like man. I wish those guys can get a shot Kevin young darko cabbage. You know the thing that impacted by a just want all of us to be on the same plane you know. I'm not pro african american..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

09:13 min | 3 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

"Today this has been much too serious and it's funny that it would be serious after a series. This show famously. Crushed this entire series. Because i specifically got it started because i was disillusioned with how diluted the measurements of the greatness had become because of all the injuries and i found it off putting the general greed of crawling these dollars and television. No matter what so. I wanna ask some other questions about some other stuff is listening to audio books reading. No it's definitely not reading but some people enjoy it but it's not reading. You can't see it doesn't you. Don't think it could be classified as reading. Can a blind person read because science has stipulated that the brain functions the same when it comes to audio books and reading that some of the same things are in play. I didn't know that so then it is reading. I trust science. So i would say i would have said no but if you tell me that scientists say the brain functions assigned what did he had strong bench reading. That gives me the opportunity here to get you into a little bit of politics and broadcasting because you mentioned you trust science and a couple of nights ago and a dramatic pivot that he was applauded for hannity said that he now to trust science. He didn't say go out and specifically get the vaccine but he did finally say treat cova d- seriously the day that the dow crashes because of the delta variant and you're assuming that lawyers are now telling fox hey you guys have been really a responsible here and we've got a walk. Some of this back. I would assume what did you make of all of that. And what do you make more specifically because we've talked about the divisions in this country about everything every the vaccine is politics everything is politics Specifically what it is that's happening with the media coverage that is this off to the alternate universes of giving people in their own bubbles just confirmation bias and whatever it is that they want never mind the truth first of all what hannity. I didn't know that he had said that. I- this'll be surprising. But i don't really follow sean. Hannity to get credit for sixteen months into the pit. Debock saying oh yeah copays real like come on now. I don't think you deserve any credit for that. About for the sixteen months that you were a total idiot and probably contributed to people losing their lives and stuff because you were working against the precautions that people should take no zero credit for sean hannity and i do think there's plenty of places you can still get true. Yes there's bias everywhere. There's gonna be biased the new york times as a liberal bias. Cnn has a little bit of a liberal bias but then there is land. you know. There's fantasy land breitbart news and you know all these fox news for that night and then go even worse away n. And places like that. So you know there's bias and then there's just we don't give shit about reality what solo like. We're just totally detached from reality and we're created an entire universe like we can argue baby. I don't think we should but you might argue the side effects of a vaccine. Okay but if we're talking about hillary clinton running a pedophile rain out of a pizza place in washington. Dc we detached from reality okay and there's a big. There's a big difference between bias. Which every human being anybody. I've never met an unbiased person. I never will we all have biases of many different natures. But there's a big difference between bias in total dilution One of my favorite things about the pizza conspiracy Is that the place that they said was. It was happening in the basement of this pizza. Place the actually. These people try to rate it and found out not only. Was there no child sex ring but also there was the basement thousand that you'd have a basement and that was that was i remember. I watched a little documentary. Where the guy. One of the guys who tried to read this place was like. There's at that moment. I began a question whether this is real or may. Maybe i just got a little too far. There's a there's a really good bit about that on the into the storm q. Documented from adam. Mckay the plug for a medal art media partner there Stand out was curious. They're seven head coach. Black head coaches were hired in the most recent coaching Cycle what were your thoughts on that. And i know it's kind of a touchy subject. You're you're replaced by willie green and we had maria taylor. In the rachel nichols controversy. The idea of white people looking at other people of diversity and saying not on my watch when you see on you know. Black head. Coach is being hired to the nba. Thirteen or now gonna be Head coaches in the league. What was your response to that In the past couple months with the hiring spree look at hirings as a you know as a global thing as you know the league. I mean you sort of look at each one individually and their everybody. That's getting jobs is is highly highly qualified. So you know. I mean and i think that beleaguered at least is other mahdi said the money. Williams said there's really you just want to get to a point where it comes down to somebody's qualifications and that they get opportunities the interview in a matter of having a quota system or how many people. It's just does it. Come down to your qualifications. I mean jamal moseley got the job in orlando guys. Been an assistant forever in this league like. I'm always happy for guys like that. I mean those are the guys that i really feel. Happy for Rick carlisle changed jobs. I don't think there's anybody. I didn't see any outcry of people you know because rick was white. Saying rich shouldn't have gotten a job in indiana. I mean rix highly qualified as a coach. Chauncey doesn't have a lot of time as an assistant but it was always very respected. Guy people earning talk basketball and Yeah i don't think there was any out of left field. I certainly don't think there was tokenism and quite honestly i don't think they're ever would be in this league. Don't see an owner doing that. I think the problem is more on the other end. Are you going to give people opportunities but Yeah i i like the the hires. Everybody has different different reasons for who they like. And don't It's interesting with. Willie agreed with me. When i was in detroit willie lived up there at the time and in the offseason right near the end of his career he he called me in and like. I didn't really knowing from plan. But i know him and he just asked if we could get together and he could talk about coaching thing. I went to breakfast with million in detroit. It was really really impressed with them on any ended up with steve and the whole thing so happy for willie i mean. I'm happy for anybody. Who gets a job and i commiserate with anybody who loses a job you know. I mean the the one coaching firing this year. That i think really got me. That i just couldn't understand at all was terry stops. I mean to me. They did a great job with that roster. They're in the playoffs. Eight straight years. It's not his fault they didn't build out the roster and giving more to work with plus he's just a class act and a team player and and the whole thing Other surprised but with the hirings. I thought they were all good. I mean you know i. Which one would you complain about stan. When i watch chris paul talk at the podium. Last night obviously. I've got my ties to chris. Paul from college and stuff but i i four on the sense of like he hasn't won a championship and it probably is looking like he's not going to win a championship in his nba career. And we talked me. And i talked to george karl last week. He hasn't won an nba title. And i'm curious if you think that there is a ring privilege that people who win a championship suddenly can just throw that around. Like you don't know what you're talking about stan. Have you won an nba championship before. Kendrick perkins guide into george karl. They were having like a pretty normal basketball situation and kendrick perkins just straight up. Was like i'm sorry. Have you wanna championship..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

51:23 min | 3 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

05:26 min | 3 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on PTI

PTI

04:34 min | 3 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on PTI

"Happy people happy. Twenty six birthday luke. Shaw english footballer wears a certain number twenty three jersey and plays left back for manchester united. Two thousand fourteen showers was signed by manchester of thirty million pounds. Then a world record transfer fee for a teenager yesterday. Shaw scored his first international goal for england. The fastest goal ever scored in the uefa euro final. You think hooper's recruited in groomed all too early in our culture. This kid join southampton academy at age. Seven frank guy had the all time fabulous birthday on his plate until the darn. Pk's ruined it all. And he had a great goal. Got the ball at a pressure. Then he ran seventy yards converted. The cross from trippy a and scored. I would like to see him. Be the fifth guy to take the penalty kick not soko. Nineteen way was in the awesome academy when he was seven. Just got to be some. I mean in for examination of this lining happy anniversary depending on the viewpoint to disco. Demolition night on this forty two years ago and comiskey park in chicago a promotion to blow up. A crate of fiscal records ended in that approach to riot hundreds if not thousands of fans rushed the field between games of a scheduled doubleheader and between that and the detonation of the disks. The playing field was destroyed to the degree that the white sox had to forfeit the second game to the tigers. Nearly forty people presumably rockers. Were charged with disorderly conduct after being led into an anti disco frenzy choir at least one. Prominent chicago shock jock. Some cultural observers say the night was mostly about racism and homophobia others say white sox owner build back in some might just looking as always for another promotion to fill those seats either way. It's a sad footnote to a lot of shenanigans at all community. You know they should have learned from the cleveland indians. Five years earlier they had ten cent beer night that got out of control. I'll tell you what as the years go on. And you watch that it makes you cringe. Even more really nasty. Only seen really. It was just passed off laughingly at the time. If i remember correctly happy trails to ronald kunia jude. The brave store outfielders out for the season after tearing his right. Acl saturday's game against the marlins. The injury happened while cooney was trying to make a leaping catch on the warning track and right deal three year old leads the braves batting average home runs and stolen bases this season manager. Brian snicker said quote. You're not going to replace him. He's arguably the best player in the game close quote but if the braves are going to try to replace him frank. You'll have to do so pretty soon. The trade deadline is an eighteen days. But it sounds like that's what they're going to do. They're going to go for it. They're not gonna just give up on the season but here's a player. Leaves him in batting. Average home runs stolen bases. That is a major major loss. You probably not going to see him about nine or ten months. Who knows about next season and he really is in that discussion of short list of best. Just say we're running out of show. Frank let's jump to the big finish. Aaron rodgers tells nbc sports the yesterday that he plans to figure things out quote in a couple of weeks close quote. Is that actually advancing tiresome story. Where is this heading. He is he gonna retire. It doesn't sound like he's going to trade it. I think he's going to be back playing for the packers on you. It looks i. It does look like he was out playing golf at the century. You an in tahoe with all the big stars yesterday. That's that news is broken. All right mike. The magic hired former madge assistant. Jamal moseley as head coach. That a good fit frank like you. I mean you talk to people about moseley and so many people say here's a guy hire him. He deserves a job even with the band team. He's going to be functional in that situation. Also argentina beat brazil to the copa america title breaking down soccer expert. First national or Championship trophy for his country for messy. Give it to michael. He's the greatest fireball time made its world cup final. When the copa america give it to masters champion decade. Matsuyama withdrew from the british open after cova diagnosis disappointed. Very given the way he's played. I mean fifty this year last one homerun derby tonight. We got one guy you want to see the face of baseball shohei ohtani. Who's going to start the all star game at a time. Thanks for watching. I'm frank sold. I'm mike will. Same time tomorrow. Knucklehead you can get.

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The JJ Redick Podcast

The JJ Redick Podcast

05:29 min | 3 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The JJ Redick Podcast

"Up a luca to orlando. That's lucas guy kevin clark. It seemed like everybody was going to be getting seemed like all the articles originally were like a riccar allows gone. Jomo's is going to get that job but then you at io pied that maybe rick carlisle was going out there. you know. maybe he didn't feel necessarily stood by a completely with all of the stories that had come out About the baz. Because we had wondered aloud like one is the last time that you saw coach leaving and stumping for who should get the job and it wasn't he didn't stump for jamal moseley. He walked out the door. It said i think jason kidd should get ten job. It's like are still. It's still so odd. How he did that. It's still really odd. Well volvos he got a job at for all so he didn't not yet officially just donges emerges as they strong front runner according to loge see i thought they were gonna hire keniakin but now it sounds like going to the warriors as lead assistance. Yeah so it's an interesting spot for him to be. Because i mean like you know who knows if curl be there for three more years or ten more years. But if you're in that lead assistant spot i wonder if he could slide into that someday. Who knows maybe. I mean or is it like you know like a coaching car wash. Is that golden state. It used to be san antonio a golden state. Now we're now kenny. Kenny atkinson goes to golden state becomes more appealing for the next head. Coaching job next season. Maybe but i think if. I'm not mistaken luke's the only one right luke. Walton is the only one that's got more. Nobody's hired mike brown off that staff right. I mean i think my brown is just coach. Who was he coach nigeria. I was watching it this weekend in those olympic trials. I think i think my brown was coaching nigeria. Or one of those teams. But nobody's and he was what like. When would kerr had that back injury. He had he was. He was winning all the way through to. And i guess people just thought anybody can stand on the sidelines and win a bunch. Because luke wanna a bunch. Mike brown water. Bunch steve kerr. Obviously what a bunch. But i don't know. I'll tell you what though kenny atkinson is a good higher because before he was head coach of the nets what people love. The him was his player development. And for the warriors. Here you get some younger guys who are anita in need of development kenny. Atkinson might be able to help them along in that category. I thought he'd get the magic job. Yeah that sense yeah. I thought i thought. I thought it was just natural. We talked about kind of building the culture with a young team in brooklyn which he did in maybe it. Maybe moseley can do that too. He comes highly regarded. Luca loved him. Carlisle car by some of the players. Saying younger guys..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

04:37 min | 4 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

"I think he's going to be a good friend tonight. So if you want to come, and that starts at six, if you want to see the exact green Book signing. I see you Big German in the 1st 41 people they're going to get. I think it's there to at each location. Is that right? So, Yeah. East location, The 1st 41 people There are getting a big German collectible glass. Cool. I hope that's the case and it's not just at roller town. I believe that's the case. That was my understanding that long skin had a better handle on the copy points and I did, And he's not here. So I lean on him for the like the details, Look at his tweets and make sure Yeah, I think that's a mass tweets right now. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Um anyways, yeah, God, He's got to be overwhelmed right now. Um, the Mavericks are at the center of the universe Right now they're making all the headlines. GM gone their head coach gone all in about 24 hours. All we really care about is how this impacts, Luca. Um but we love Donny Nelson Love Donny Nelson. And so were our hearts are broken over that. Rick Carlisle. Yeah. Thanks for the championship. Yeah, thanks for the ring, man. Thanks for the ring. But did you have to be a jerk the whole time? Um, not a fan, not a big fan of the guy. Glad he's leaving. Honestly, um, so we'll hope Jamal Moseley gets job anyways, We're not here to try to do a bunch of sports talk. That's not what we do on the mighty Eagle. We do do, uh, we didn't do we do do talk. Sports rock and just as the 1st 41 attendees who by the big German on draft Get to take home the koelsch class. There you go. Yes. Nailed it Nailed it. Uh, so anyways, if you want to go out to good friend tonight, you can see skin. Ask him about his prostate. Maybe get a look at it. Um, And then I'm going to go do the collectible network with my son. He's in route. He's on his route here in route to here to the studio. God, I can't speak. How do I have a job talking? Can't Hey, man, you're doing great. Thanks for the support man Carry you didn't support. I'm sorry. No, I agree, but I was just thinking I do that a lot. It's like the Michael Scott fingers like I started sentence and I really don't know where it's going to end up. I don't know how I'm in this culture serves their shows not as scripted as people think at all. Many times throughout my life. I've thought someone's going to come in here and say, How did you get here? Right. You're fired. Leave it like you're qualified to be like a garbage man and really not much more beyond that. So why don't you go do that dude, Being a garbage man would be great on a day like today. Good workout that it would be a good workout. Yeah, Gosh, God bless those guys. That's a rough job in the summer. I don't face their ass. Don't kiss their ass. They know that you're placating. They do. Good work, man. They quit kissing their ass. Grab it with the drug. I respect him. But you're now you're just trying too hard to take trying to get promoted The driver of the truck, You know you work your way up, right? Or do they do rotations? Now? You don't even know anything about what they do, and you're acting like you're in the union. You can't do a rotation, though, because after you've done all that heavy lifting and sweating when you be too exhausted to drive, maybe next week, Don't you get out of their business and give him some space? Crowd in a man. God, you sound like a garbage man group. Hey, Carl Workman, Carl. Great shift. You look good man. You've been working out. Okay, I'll leave. Sorry He is side stage Turner. So even for the guard, an I'm outside waiting on him to come by holding the dress bag. You're the man. You're the man, Earl. Okay. Um, Right now it's temperatures. And now each time for big skins were day up day featuring veteran news anchor Katie Fun tweets hero. The important stories. He is currently tracking from around the world. So I I swear, I have some Good stories. I want to play an audio put for you, Ben. I think you're gonna like this. Um, it's uh, There's this guy on a on Tiktok, who basically makes He can make. He is just a good musician, right? You know, I'm gonna play, you know, Okay. I'm just trying to find it because it was all right. It was right. There were married ago. Um, and basically he can turn he can turn songs is that there is like he turned songs in there and to, you know, like, uh, he's doing Here's what Garth Brooks Song would sound like if it was the killer's That's okay. Yeah, right. God, I'm trying so hard to find this. I'm such a jerk. By the way, I thought about making a killer song.

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show

The Dan Patrick Show

05:33 min | 4 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show

"I mean that look. That's gonna be the trend here in the nba. Yes i mean jamal. Moseley who full disclosure is a friend. He played for my dad. Nee you like jamaal has been a grinder and didn't play in. The league was damn good player. Colorado like the younger guys who have league credit those are the ones who are gonna get most of these jobs most of them the difference becomes when you have it. It's all where you have a team right if you have a championship caliber team boy. It's really hard to give a job to an unproven guy. Because in order to win the win a championship in the nba. A lot of times you have to wanna championship in the nba. Right you have to have you have to have respected locker room at the highest level tab respected room at the highest level. You have to have one at the highest level. It's like a catch twenty one. Yes how did he get it. He got it out of relationships guy. And she's sean marks are are teammates and close close friends. And i'm sure that there's a good portion of it which is like an. How are we going to get a guy who knows how to communicate with superstars. On their level steve. Nash is kind of the one is the one guy. Do i think chauncey could potentially be that type of guy because he's played he's been so respected. Yes but do. I think becomes a turnstile in philadelphia. Probably not like look phil. Philadelphia's biggest issue. Hey everybody talks about simmons shooting like the biggest issues their bench. The sixers bench was outscored by the hawk's bench. Thirty nine to thirteen. Your bench gets outscored by twenty six points right and there you go. It's what they haven't been able to do to put her out so when these guys come out of the game knowing and beads always gonna have to come out and of course they inherited. Ben simmons and simmons is a is a hard one right he wants to be a point guard but you gotta put them in the spot. I like used to have to with rondo with the celtics. The problem is they don't have good players around like the celtics did back in the day. i don't think it's a disaster yet. If they lose tonight than it is an heads will roll. But i i. i don't think it's gonna get About this year one. Ben simmons to portland for cj mccollum and so. I don't know whatever salary matches up nazir little maybe zach collins. Whatever you wanna do. Does that help put more shooting around. Joel embiid it. Ben simmons. I don't know. I think you could probably try if i'm getting. Ben simmons whatever whatever organization. I am i am trying something radical. I'm making him draymond. Green my center slash point guard. He's defending opposing centers. And taking pressure off dame we can't defend opposing centers..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby

Jalen and Jacoby

01:34 min | 4 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby

"Name. He's the assistant coach of the dallas. Mass he's all rick carlisle staff. You ever heard of a guy named Luca you've heard him i'm familiar. That's who okay that that that that that's that's that's was watering no seeds every day. Okay so i would like to see him. Get an opportunity. When i watched the dallas mass seemingly overachieved and watch lookout. They're limping at porzingis. Posted about being unicorn two point. Oh we have a c. Unicor one yet. Tim hardaway o needing to you know like score thirty five points in order for them not to get blown out like that's rick carlaw and that's jamal moseley. So i would like to see he get an opportunity as well along with becky along with the other guys that i mentioned and last but not least. I am not going to go summer without mentioning mark jackson's name. I am not going to go a summer doing it. I did put nate. Mcmillan look back when the pacers fire. Nate mcmillan jalen and jacoby shows. I wasn't happy that was a weird just extended him something happened. Something happened. something happened. Happy i was not happy with nate. Mcmillan got fire by the pacers. And i also said.

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Premium Hoops

Premium Hoops

03:24 min | 6 months ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Premium Hoops

"Do you guys I kinda wanna talk a little bit about dallas in like potential first-round matchups. Do you see. Obviously they're they're extremely high variability team like a lot like Houston was last year as a postseason threat. You take shit. Low threes listened to if half or close to half go in. You have one of those nights you can be anyone but do you think dallas can pending match up. Of course i guess we can maybe talk about a couple of matchups debut things they can get past the first round straight to the point. I like it. That is probably the six seed of this. Terry stotts blazer above now that by the way that terry stock. Ap's bullshit today. Absolute online is really grandpa the industry. But that's just high dallas can go from me. They're not going to push all five so you're looking at sixty two sixty they can play. The clip is oh the nuggets. They've got no chance against the clippers because the clip is can pretty much throw when pj confer kawai at luca disrupt him. And i'm not saying. No one stops luca but if you disrupt him of set before who's the second playmaker who's gonna who's gonna get into the paint set someone else up no one because the next best place frequent shoes so i've been there. Seething is taking the sons to game. Seven game six of the evening on this roster. I just don't think that they've gone up but obviously it will be interesting to see how the fan base reacted to that. What they say we need to promote. Jamal moseley we need to get someone else in. Does that seems to be the way some people are going. Yeah i think. I would win the same like i think that. They're of course because they have luke like they remind me of the lebron teams before they were. You know making these conference finals. Like lebrons awesome. That's luke lucas. Good enough to carry a team to a really good series but probably unless you goes absolutely nuclear I don't think that they're going to win. A series like. I think a lot that's been lost this year. Too and i mean the mavs defense has been Has been good. it's been solid. I don't i mean. I guess you could say good. But it's like it's it's better than last year but it's been around solid but I've been really a little bit Worried and maybe worries wrong. Put like christopher loss of mobility has been very notable for me like. It's not absolutely killer. But i don't know it just. It's something that i'm interested to see how it plays out in the playoffs. Not that i think it makes a huge difference but Just overall like i wonder what that looks like moving forward if he may be regain some of that But i really add anything also than what. We've just gone over the last twenty minutes. I just don't know if they're going to have enough juice to be a team that they're gonna that that they'll end up facing in the first round series i. It's interesting because they before this recent stretch. They had a rich basketball. I mean they had some good wins over boston. New york and utah. And then they've lost five of the last seven. They lost to sacramento. Who was coming off nine hundred house and they lost to houston. I mean that's just you know and that's when all hell breaks loose On maps twitter..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

02:25 min | 1 year ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Murray Murray starts down the lane hangs, flips it up, and it holds the rim and goes down. Wow. Tough circus shot over. Dwight Howard 59 43 Denver 1 50 left in the half inside past, Howard turns fouled and won seems to take special enjoyment playing against Nicole, You know, with all the top PJ about the best center in the league right now, Yeah, I think a lot of pride right there, but that that was Michael Porter's fall. He just ran him behind the basket and scored on him like he wasn't even there. That's why Michael Porter's head into the bench. Right now, this young guy is so talented and he's helping them so much offensively, but he's got to give them either a bunch of rebounds. And then you could put up with his defensive lapses, but he's always in the middle of rotation or a bad defensive play. It cost his team right. Howard flicks a free throw No good. Porter, nine points. On the bench with three fouls. Denver's leaders 14 59, 45 1 40 left in the half kitchen. Murray Here's Murray, Pull up from 18. Yes. For Jamal Murray, 61 45, Denver So back to back basket. See, Murray could get started, but Mike Malone talks to all the time. How is your team doing? LeBron James passes to the left quarter. KCP for three buries it. Big big bucket. Casey has been there when they needed it. There were two of 11 from three before that Make the Lakers 61 48 Denver 1 10 left in the half. Murray on the art passes high, and it's out of bounds over the hands of Gary Harris. Testy over and over. Frank Vogel has preached when we get a bad matchup, we've gotta be quicker getting out of it. Jamal has hurt the bigs. They gotta switch to a big What the Lakers very quickly. KCP gets him out of it and they rotate. Make a tough pass or really good defense from the Lakers down 13 James, head of steam down the lane. Reverse layup. Good. It's down to 11. 61 50 Denver in front with a minute to go in the picture. Those two turnovers by Jamal Moseley, not recognizing 24 2nd clock and careless pass. Very Harris drives outside the three point line looking for yoke. It's no dice now finds him outside..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

06:47 min | 1 year ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"BERTONE's here because I've been saying for the last couple of weeks. And really since that that union conference call with the young players like Tatum, and Mitchell and others that those players weren't the players I would be focusing on. Because look, the reality is knock on wood that if tatum Donovan Mitchell or Darren Fox got suffered a significant injury, they'd probably still get their Max level contract, because these are cornerstone players that. Durant types. Durant. The OFF SEASON WITH Achilles injury and he's still got a four year. Max from Brooklyn those guys are still going to get paid. It was the players like Bertone's that I was really focused on sure enough. Bertans like he is the quintessential player that should want nothing to do with playing like if you're Bertans, there's only downside like you just had the season of your life. You're going to be an unrestricted free agent in a market that is not ripe with top level, unrestricted free agents. You are three point shooting big man. Those guys are like I mean they're covid like platinum I mean it's ridiculous. How bad every team! Team wants a player like Davis Burke towns, why in the world would you go back for a nine seed Washington play maybe seven or eight games after not playing for three months and risk injury, like players like Bertans are the ones I'm looking at, and as I look across the league. I'm also looking at like Paul. MILLSAP I'm looking at Marcus Morris with the clippers. I'm looking at Danilo Gallinari with the thunder. Now those players are on teams that are playing for something, but those type of guys. I think that should be more worried about injury than those those young players coming up his rookie extensions. A Chris I think the the last three guys that you bet should may be posed. The more difficult choice given that teams of our playoff teves added suitcases like the clippers a team that they could get to the NBA finals, and so that makes that a little more difficult now. Burton's I got a lap on Kristen. Sense here in Washington, DC I watch a lot of wizards basketball at the arena at one of the joys of watching the wizards. Look I know they're not a great deep, but strangely fun to watch. They put up a lot of points if it does play a ton defects. But JEEZ with Bradley beal and The way he shoots the three bonkers. They weren't entertaining team. Watch in asa think it worked out. Because the wizards understand this, they would love to resign him. Knowing that they're getting a healthy John Wall back. They'll get a book. Committed Bradley beal to that I have his best defensive year this year but I think. He also understood that he couldn't give it all. Defensively on that team, and so they're going to get A. Minute Bradley beal on the defensive end next year and They can have someone like Britan's in the east. You there on the cusp of the playoffs East right now. With the knack very good t batty, and so you look at all those pieces, it may be draft raw with tabby shepherd leading backdraft. That's a team rookie. Being a playoff team next year of it, so I completely understand why play it also stand. While the wizards were completely fine with that plan. Those other guys that you mentioned Chris Look at the that's a bigger dilemma are given that jeeves either think they could make some Kinda rod or deep run. At the wizards they were offered before the deadline, which seems like a lifetime ago they were offered multiple first round picks for `Davis Burton so that tells me all I need to know about their desire and intention to re sign him to a long term deal to be governor alongside a returning John, Wall and Bradley beal. To have trickle down a little bit Jeff I don't think we're gonNA see much of either like I don't know what the upside is. Roll him out there and risk you know. What would they hope will be a good season next year with wall and beal back I think you're gonNA. Get a lot of backups being played out there in the wizards kind of playing out the string, and maybe they catch lightning in a bottle and get within four games of Orlando or Brooklyn for that last spot, but I can't see them putting all that much energy into to that spock in you. Know in the Chris even before the see I was talking with. Him In fact the week, the League was suspended there in March. I think maybe the Monday before the Wednesday night games. I was at the wizards practice facility I was talking to man. That was talking about the future of this wizards team and the bottom line. Is that and we don't need to spend much more time on the wizards that. This season was always about next season. For the wizards and there's no reason for that to continue that philosophy. Yeah. I. Agree maybe Ish, mythic and a lot of burned in these playoffs. Right, Figuring out up two quick things. I WanNa hit on before I. Let you go up the Knicks. Casting a pretty wide net for their in their coaching search, and look I I love it because there's no downside to. Speaking to as many of the top basketball minds that are out there and you know talking to Pat Delaney. Who is an excellent young coach in the Orlando System Jamal Moseley in Dallas also kicking the tires on Jason Kidd. WHO's at a very good assistant coaching year? Better good assistant, and by all accounts, a good soldier as an top lieutenant to Frank Vogel I like that approach, but in your mind. Is there any way this ends with? Tom, tiptoe I mean there's really no pressure on them to hire tibbs because like the other team that could have a coaching opening soon. CHICAGO, when he ain't going back there, so it's. Sort of waiting on on that the Knicks to figure it out, but Leon rose was his agent I mean that's what it was. He was his agent. For a long time and tibbs is still an excellent high level. Coach badly wants that Knicks job, do you? Do you think there's a chance? They go in a different direction than Tom Thibodeau? Think there's a chance. Do would also looking at it from the perspective that you just mentioned that it's very smart to cast that wide. I liked the air of looking at the younger up. Incoming coaches look successful ones. Recently you look at what a Taylor Jacobs did this this year? You look at a guy like Lloyd Pierce in Atlanta..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

05:09 min | 1 year ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

"I change gears a little bit? I'm going to read you some names and you tell me if any of them have a shot in hell at getting the next job Mike. Brown Jamal Moseley will hardy Pat Delaney. I don't even know his first name. How you pronounce it. WHO DOKE! The sixers May Dokic Yup miyoko. Isn't this his job? Isn't this just a dog and pony show Chris Tibbs. Leeann rose like tips was like his first and only major coaching climate for a while there i. just feel like what are we doing here? This is tips job, isn't it? I think so. I do like that. The Knicks are acting like a functional franchise for the first time that I can remember covering them They're casting a wide net, and they're interviewing all the right people I mean a lot of names you mentioned are some of the brightest basketball minds in the NBA that nobody Sorta in Bob Probably members Pat Delaney from his days of the Celtics video room like he was an intern with the Celtics and you guys like he's worked his way up from the Miami Heat bench or the video room to Sioux falls stifles now working with Steve Cliburn, Orlando. He's GonNa get a job at some point as good the knicks are. Tapping into that to see if one of these guys really moves the needle and shakes them off their position, but that position to me it's always been dumped in the relationship. Leeann rose is the strongest. The strongest link to all this mainly on really has his agent all the way throughout I mean he is is representative in contract, negotiations and Tibbs, certainly as come off his desire to be you know an l. fee of basketball operations like he wants to be just a coach at this point and look as a coach I think Tom Timoteo is still excellence is a very good basketball mind as an executive. Outside of Larry Brown I can't think of anyone less qualified to be a basketball executive. He just does not have the temperaments to be a basketball executive. You just put him in a coaching role on the team. He's wanted to coach forever. I think you could see. Yeah, it'd be really successful parents, so the Nixon doing the right thing, but if this ends with somebody optimal I'd be very surprised. She's been going on for a long time. Yeah, I mean there really isn't like. Who are they competing with at this point though like the Bulls, Bos. We kinda think are going to let go of Jim at point. I. I kind of made out of the suction..

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"jamal moseley" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

03:11 min | 2 years ago

"jamal moseley" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

"But the only problem is if you've never put together a team, and let's also talk about this. He has no assistant GM. Right. So the first thing that they do if you hire a young coach of a guy first thing to do is like give me a veteran guy underneath you. Right. But by title, they have a Jesse bus who is a genus, brother. There's a reason why nepotism is not allowed in the government. So by the way, he's also the director scouting they've done a nice job in that area. But but he's again, he's young. He's he's he's a loop. What you rector of scouting? Is it really that hard to scout? When you get the number two pick when you've had the number three Kouzmin heart and some of those guys I want to give a little credit at least for that. But to your point he's a relative newbie, right? He's not an established. Okay. Listen young bus. I'm not here to kill you. I. I'm not I don't know. I'm not I'm not here. Like, I'm not saying that the Lakers haven't made some great draft picks. That's not what I'm saying. So that's a compliment to him. Right, right. I'm not here that what I am saying though, is that you needed someone to be like, hey, guys. You know, you shouldn't be talking about this. Are you know, that we can't release this trade information, or you know, that this is not going the way that we wanted to go, right? Like there needed to be somebody there because Robert never done it. Magic Johnson had never done it. Right. Genie is a relic. Even though she's been a part of it. She's relatively new being the face of the Lakers. Right. Right. So like all of these things, what did they lead to what tell me the path and direction they lead to is this dysfunction that you see here. Right. And then you hear the stories of Rambus. Then you hear the story of Rambus is why you should have people that you trust with interest of crown them. But really, should you be having them? That is the most asinine thing that you think that a coach is going to take a three year deal. And then on top of that you were going to have his replacement guy that you interviewed for the job. I'll give you instance. Right. And we're. Talking about Tyler James kid, Jamal Moseley really good friend of mine known Jamal Moseley for years. I think he's going to be a great head coach in this league. J B Bickerstaff one of my met j Bickerstaff when I was getting ready for the draft. Right. I introduced him to his wife his wife NICKY Jones, while Nikki Bickerstaff, she played soccer at Arizona when me and Luke there. So one of my really good friends. They're both auditioning for their both up for multiple jobs. One of which being the Cleveland job Jamal was like, I don't even ask J B. How how how they interview is going because they're they're really really close friends. Right. And they're all good friends with Luther this are kind of our crew, but it's like Jamal takes that job. And he brings J B in. You can see it already there. If J B gets that job, and he brings Jamal Lynn red, you see like issue, and they both they both know this, and these are friends, these are friends that both know this, right? And I think they're both. I think Jay got a raw deal in Memphis. I think there was other things going on. But I think Jamal MOS going to be a very very good head coach in this league. A lot of years, but they both recognised kind of how there's a conflict of interest. If I bring one or the other on they have a relationship, their wives are friends with each other like their kids play together, they -cation together. That's how close they are. And they can see the conflict now magin a Tyron Lou that doesn't really have a relationship with Jason Kidd doesn't really have a relationship with Kurt yet. And you want them to bring that in like that's a huge conflict..

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