19 Episode results for "Jamaica"
Queen Pin Pt. 1: Jemeker Thompson
"Due to the graphic nature of this queen pins crimes listener discretion is advised this episode includes discussions of murder sex and drug abuse that some people people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen Jamaica was on edge usually aleisha radiated confidence that lit up the room but not today she resisted the temptation to taste the synthetic courage on the table in front of her an an ounce of powdered cocaine instead she gathered up several grams and handed them off to one of her most trusted dealers David. She wasn't unsure if it would sell but she wanted him to try. Jamaica wanted to convince her boyfriend and business partner Daf that they should pivot from selling selling marijuana to coke Daf wasn't enthused about the switch. They already did well. Dealing weed cocaine was a bigger risk but Jamaica wanted that cocaine money showtime the next few hours went by quickly Jamaica hit only only reached out to her choices. We'd clients but every single one of them wanted in Jamaica. Only had a few grams left. When David returned he'd already resold everything Jamaica had given him and he wanted more where there once was an ounce of cocaine? Now there was a stack of cash when Daf have came home he was astonished. Jamaica had made all this cash off a single ounce in one night for this kind of money they would risk it all their time their freedom even their lives and I'm Kate Leonard and this is kingpins apar- cast original every Friday we journey inside the ranks of Organized Crime Rings From Street gangs to mafiosos to understand how kingpin or Queen Pin Rises to the top of the underworld and why they fall as we follow the lives of infamous crime bosses will explore how money and power change them and our change the community around them this. This is our first episode on Jimmy Thomson Hairston One of the most ambitious and powerful cocaine traffickers of the nineteen eighties and early nineties. This week will explore what happened when a wave of cocaine smashed into Los Angeles and how Jamaica Road that white powder wave from Destitute Childhood in south central Los Angeles all the way to a mansion in Encino next week. We'll see how Jamaica expanded her empire nationwide nationwide only to see her maternal instincts. Bring it all crashing down at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do we love let us know how doing reach out on facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at our cast network and if you enjoy today's episode this owed the best way to help is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening it really does help us. We also now have merchandise head to podcast US dot com slash merch for more information now. Let's witness the powerful rise of the Queen Pin of Los Angeles Jamaica Thompson hairston Jamaica had a lot in common with other hustlers. She was ruthless. She was violent went. She had an insatiable appetite for money and power but she had another asset. None of the other big players had she was a woman and as a woman Jamaica was acutely aware that she was expected to do less to be less cunning less aggressive than the men around her at at first Jamaica was resentful of this unfair presumption of inferiority but in the drug slinging business or as insiders call it the Game Jamaica learned that men's underestimation of her was an advantage in fact Jamaica's femininity brought her to the very top of the game and awarded awarded her the prizes she most desired money and control in Nineteen eighty-one Jamaica and her boyfriend damp or watching the football game at home to Meco watched Daf Drool over a commercial for an enormous television money was gushing in from cocaine sales. Jamaica decided her death deserved surprise the next day. Jimmy entered an electronics store in the posh neighborhood of Santa Monica. Jamaica Jamaica proceeded straight to the counter. She knew exactly what she wanted. No browsing necessary when Jamaica heard the prize for the model she was looking for she made a counter offer. What kind of deal could she get if she paid in cash for two T._v.'s and of course she need delivery and installation? Galatian Jamaica was always thinking ahead considering everything she'd need to complete the deal no nickel and diming and no middleman no Ma'am Jamaica left the store with everything she wanted and at a great price but she'd also planted the seeds for something more those seeds would bear fruit the very next day after the T._v.'s were delivered and installed and Daf was delighted with his surprise Jamaica Peca received a phone call. It was one of the electronics salesman she had dealt with the day before checking in to make sure Jamaica was satisfied with the product and service then to her complete surprise he made a proposition he had some other products she might be interested in Jamaica arranged a meeting to check out this new product. She was pleased to discover the product was cocaine and the T._v.. Salesman was selling it at a better their price than her and deaths original Hookup Jamaica was relentless everywhere she went she saw ways to improve and expand her business and although she could be hard she also knew how to be approachable. Friendly even Jamaica's ability to get total strangers to trust her was unique. You can business where many of the men dealing drugs used guns and fear to get what they wanted to make a strategy served her and daft well in an episode of the Documentary Programme Gangsters America's most evil Jamaica reminisced about the height of their operation quote in south central in the early eighties. It was like selling ice cream. Jamaica reports that at the time quote it was nothing for me to have fifty kilos of cocaine and the garage we had three dope houses. They ran twenty four hours a day. Seven days a week three hundred sixty five days a a year they never closed down and money is being picked up every single day Jamaica writes in her memoir Queen Pen that that she and Daf only put hundred dollar bills into their safety deposit box at a Beverly Hills Bank there simply wasn't space for smaller notes Jamaica and damps lifestyle ameliorated in step with their expanding wealth Daf remodeled his mother's home and transformed her garage Gaj into a luxurious man cave for him and his friends to gamble in when they wanted to gamble in Las Vegas instead the chartered a private jet uh-huh Jamaica took her girlfriends on lavish shopping sprees on Rodeo drive where Jamaica instructed them to buy everything they wanted a designer Zainur stores like Fella Gucci Chanel and Armani Jamaica was acquiring a taste for the good life. She never tried the product that that was making her ridge but she did have an addiction to something else money. That insatiable desire created a cycle the more she got the more she wanted. Jamaica and Daf weren't the only ones on the comma all over Los Angeles but especially in south central troll young people were getting rich practically overnight selling cocaine ostentatious cars with insanely expensive sound systems is and rims became commonplace in poor neighborhoods like comte in Jamaica and Daf owned more cars than they could find garage space for but the Los Angeles Police Department was fighting back and their tactics were the most extreme the city had ever seen facing political pressure to clean up the streets before the nineteen eighty four summer Olympics l._a._p._d.. Chief Daryl Gates used a four ton military tank equipped with a fourteen fourteen foot battering ram to tear open dwelling suspected of concealing cocaine operations violence didn't just come. I'm from law enforcement. Competing drug dealers often used brutal force to gain territory and access to product but Jamaica didn't let the danger affect her game play she said in an interview it was a lot of violence around me but the violence didn't affect me. It didn't even even bother me. I felt like I was untouchable. Jamaica's unflinching attitude toward bloodshed and mayhem her obsession with money and power her fixation station on control can all be traced back to her childhood in nineteen seventy. When Jamaica was in fourth grade? She came home to find her family had been evicted from their rental house on Sycamore Avenue in Los Angeles. The Yard was scattered with her family's possessions. Jamaica remembers seeing her Easter dress that her mother had constantly fretted over keeping clean thrown in the dirt her mother Lonnie was was in the Air Force reserves and a probation officer for the California Youth Authority Jamaica couldn't understand how her mother could work so hard and take on jobs with so so much responsibility and still not make enough money to take care of their family. Jamaica hated how helpless she felt even at eight years old she she knew she never wanted to be vulnerable to this kind of chaos ever again in an interview for the Netflix documentary series druglords words Jamaica declared the day that we got evicted was the day that I knew that I wanted money and I wanted to control everything that's the day Queen Pin came into my heart that night Jamaica Lonnie and her three brothers shared a small room at the West atoms manner a run down Motel Jamaica couldn't sleep at night and instead stayed up listening to her mother crying in the bathroom. Jamaica Jamaica vividly remembered the hot shame she felt when a friend from school saw her leaving the shabby motel that afternoon she told US and Hattiesburg neighbors lived miles apart but it was here in the country not in the urban jungle where Jamaica would get familiar with with violence and accepted as a way to solve problems after Jamaica got off the plane. She found her grandmother in the airport terminal. As soon as Jimmy got close she was immediately pulled into a crushing hug then her grandmother who everyone called me. Dear asked whether Jamaica had eaten Jamaica neglected to address her grandmother as Ma'am in her response not two minutes after meeting her mom dear Jamaica received her first slap but the pain served its purpose Jamaica might have resented her grandmother but she respected her. Jimmy Carr's aunts and cousins also lived under meteors roof and Madeira handled her large family with a mix of military terry precision and southern manners during Jimmy Carr's time there beatings were commonplace and Jamaica learned fast when one of Jamaica's cousins tested her by stealing food offer plate Jamaica stabbed his hand with a fork Madera sent them both out back and laid down the ground rules no biting no scratching now work it out Jamaica's cousin was ten and much bigger than the eight-year-old old Jamaica but Jamaica wasted no time in making first contact right on our cousins jaw. It was like something within Jamaica had been an unleashed. Her cousin went down after that First Punch and then Jamaica was on top of him throwing punch after punch medare separated separated them and beat them both but Jamaica was proud now. She had a reputation among her cousins. Don't try that girl from California breath. Jamaica lived in Hattiesburg with their medi-share through nineteen seventy seven her relationship with Madeira was always rocky and it came to a head during her freshman year of high school. Jamaica had secretly lost her virginity to a man almost ten years her senior. She thought she done a good job. Keeping their relationship on the down low until Jamaica came home one day to find medi-share at the door with a shotgun Jamaica cut was no longer welcome in Hattiesburg Jamaica finished out the school year but as soon as summer hit she was on a plane back to Los Angeles Jamaica had left L._A.. A homeless little girl she returned a competent forceful strong-minded fifteen-year-old Jamaica had only been back in Los Angeles a few weeks when she noticed a particular man in her neighborhood whenever he joined the craps Games is Jimmy Carr's brothers played on the coroner. Their cries of excitement always seem to get louder when her brothers came home after a night of gambling Kamenica asked after this tall attractive man her brother Tony told her that his name was Anthony Moseley but that he went by Daf Jeff Jamaica kept asking around about Daf and she only heard good things a friend who had dated him confirmed that he was funny clean gene and decent so when his sixty three impala convertible pulled up behind Jamaica on her way home from school and the hydraulics dip the low rider right right onto the asphalt is Jamaica put it. I almost lost my mind. I was done we'll tell the story of Jamaica Mika Staffs Romance and how their love made them both rich right after this they seem like a friend or even family you trust them with your life but behind the promises of fame success and riches beyond your wildest has dreams is just another scammer trying to cheat you out of your life savings every week the podcast original con artists dives into the Psychology College of hustlers swindlers and fraudsters to share with you. The greatest cons of all time con artists come from different walks of life and we cover all of them fairness founder and C._E._o.. Elizabeth Holmes grew her company to a value of nine billion dollars. Despite the fact that its flagship technology did not work Jordan Belfort also known as the wolf of Wall Street partied hard and made millions while engaging in stock stock market manipulation and Bernie Madoff Atop Wall Street market maker who operated one of the biggest Ponzi schemes of all time conning thousands of clients out of a combined sixty five billion dollars spot the con- before it finds you listen to con artists search for and subscribe type two con artists on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts or visit parkas dot com slash con artists to listen now now back to the story when fifteen year old Jimmy Thomson returned to Los Angeles in the summer of nineteen seventy seven for her sophomore year of high school she found herself drawn to a charismatic gambler on the block named Daf everyone in the neighborhood knew and loved him but for Jamaica there was one thing that set him above the rest his money down to Jamaica Emeka to Marie Calendar's on their first date before this outing the nicest restaurant Emeka ever been inside of was McDonald's. She couldn't believe that that she got to hold the menu at the table. Rather than ordering off the wall. An old couple at the table next to theirs didn't have enough money to cover their bill. L. Daf slipped the waiter of fifty and wouldn't allow the couple to make a big show of gratitude. He was happy to help. Jamaica was taken with the money money down flashed around and even more taken with how he spent it. Even though he made a lot of money he never allowed it to make him arrogant or rude and and where did all this money come from selling marijuana before long Daf was Jamaica's boyfriend when Jamaica started in her Sophomore Year of high school in the fall of nineteen seventy seven she brought damps. We'd business to school according to Jamaica she was bringing in thousands of dollars within a couple of months she had it all popularity of boyfriend and most of all money for Jamaica money changed. Everything money made her feel in control of her life. She felt protected and powerful in a way she never for had before suddenly the people around her respected her Jamaica's addiction to wealth and power had begun as the money flowed in Anna Jamaica became intoxicated with it and that intoxication soon clouded her judgment Jamaica really really liked Daf but she was always on the lookout for other opportunities. She always wanted more per desire led her to pursue another another man on the block named Alonzo Jamaica described him as short and stocky with a nasty streak. He was the exact opposite of death in one evening. Jamaica saw Lonzo on a balcony a few apartments down. He grinned at her then in a flash Lonzo leapt off off the balcony onto the street. He was in pursuit of another neighbor who owed him money. He caught the debtor and toward the back pocket off his pants to get it as this cash. Jamaica's first reaction was no way death would do that. She recognized something in Lonzo that she felt in herself. A killer our instinct and Jamaica was drawn to it therefore she knew it. Jamaica was balancing two men Daf Upfront and Lonzo on the down allo Jamaica revelled in the attention but the cheating only made Jamaica more possessive of Daf. She loved the superiority of knowing doing she was the only one getting to double dip. Jamaica wouldn't allow other women near her man. Jamaica even fought one of her classmates in in a burger king parking lot after she heard the girl merely mentioned deaths name with two men and Complete Control Jamaica felt felt on top of the world but as she would soon learn she couldn't stay on top forever after a few months awesome juggling her drug dealing school in two separate men Jamaica's world shook when she discovered she was pregnant at the age of sixteen the baby did not belong to Daf Jamaica had been withholding sex from her main man in order to retain his interest and respect yet while she kept her distance from Daf she had jumped right into bed with Lonzo an incredibly sexy man she never planned to have a future with Jamaica Approach Lonzo about the situation without ceremony or emotion. He suggested she get an abortion. Jamaica was crushed Lonzo. Lonzo never felt anything for her. After talking with her mother Lonnie Jamaica went forward with the abortion. Jimmy Co wrote having that abortion hurt worse than anything I'd ever felt and it was the scariest thing I'd ever been through but worst of all it brought a horrible horrible emptiness. I'd never felt before but there was a silver lining to Jamaica struggle when Daffy finally learned the truth about Jamaica's is cheating and abortion he stuck by her while you're MECO was physically and emotionally recovering from the abortion DAF visited with food presence in humor in a time of absolute desolation. Death was the only bright spot when Lonnie gave Daf an earful over the abortion Jamaica tensed up she hadn't told her mother about the relationship with Lonzo and just let her assume Daf was the father but daft protected detected Jamaica and kept up the lie. Jamaica didn't know what she had done to deserve such a loyal man but one thing was for sure Daf half a keeper in the spring of Nineteen seventy-nine. Jimmy Carr's mother was called up by the Air Force reserves and stationed in Japan. She left Jamaica in charge of caring for her baby brother cliff who was only a year old but Jamaica was only seventeen years old and still with junior in Highschool Daf proved himself to be upstanding yet again he moved in with them and cared for cliff while Jamaica kept up up in school. Has Jamaica watched Daf. Take responsibility around the house. She fell even more completely in love with him as death N._F._l.. Jamaica started thinking about a real future together. After Jamaica graduated from High School Jamaica found herself preoccupied with the same desire that recurred His business there when you Meco witnessed staffs deals firsthand. She was dismayed to find that daft's tender heart had made its way into his game when a customer couldn't pay Daf would offer them. We'd on credit. He was known to give loans for front others this gambling money but Jamaica didn't like seeing anyone get a handout of what she was starting to think of as her money one one night. Lonzo came to the house. The man had no shame not only did lonzo continue buying weed from Daf after getting Jimmy got pregnant but he had the audacity to show up without money to pay Jamaica was hot and ready to go off the death toll Jamaica not to worry worry a little free. We didn't bother him. Lonzo was all news but Jamaica couldn't abide. She followed Lonzo outside outside. Jamaica grabbed the marijuana right out of Lonzo's hands and put her face close to his. She wanted it to be crystal clear earlier how it was going to be moving forward. No money no weed. Lonzo got off that porch as fast as he could. empty-handed word got around. Fast Daf was still a nice guy but now Jamaica was the backstop Jamaica wrote in her memoir playing. That role came naturally from then on. I checked everybody. Daf in Jamaica were becoming a real team. Gene and Jamaica was the muscle after she graduated from high school. In the spring of nineteen eighty. Jamaica had more time to build what she was now. Recalling her business her mother Lonnie had returned from Japan and she insisted that Jamaica live with her until Jamaica turned eighteen in a few months so Jamaica moved with her mother and little brother cliff to a new apartment near Venice Boulevard in Los Angeles right away. Jimmy could notice that another kid in the building. Ricardo was selling weed. Jamaica didn't like competition but she had confidence in the quality ever product instead of seeing threat she saw an opportunity she sent a complimentary sample of product to Ricardo casually casually letting him know that she'd be happy to go into business together according to Jamaica's memoir once I slid him a sample. It was a done deal from there. Things took off. Jamaica sold weed out of the apartment whenever her mother wasn't around but that model wasn't sustainable with her growing business her we'd was so good too. Many people were coming to the door so she moved sales to the curb. Jamaica's business expanded rapidly in the new market. She was selling more hours sometimes even minutes than she used to sell in a week in high high school. She was cocky quoted as saying where there had been nothing a month ago. Now there was a full on weed spot with customers steamers round the clock every night. I stood on that corner like I owned it. When Jamaica was working she always wore a sharp outfit smashing her shoes to her athletic where she enjoyed the independence dealing gave her and she took pride in her work by selling on on the corner. Jamaica certainly wasn't keeping her operation low key but the only time she saw the police was when they visited the donut spot down the road by the time Jamaica turned eighteen in September of nineteen eighty and moved in with Daf she had turned her upstairs neighbour Ricardo into a loyal L. dealer he kept up sales in Lonnie's apartment complex while Jamaica dealt with exclusive high rolling clients at our new plays with death by this point. Daf in Jamaica were selling marijuana by the pound Jamaica remembers receiving an entire u-haul stuffed with bricks of we'd aide photographs from this time show Jamaica neatly piling stacks of bills on her bed and posing with the cash for the camera for Christmas nineteen one thousand nine hundred eighty Jamaica got death a rainbow selection of sweatsuits and Jordache jeans. Daf Got Jamaica Louis Vitton bag inside that was the key to a Mercedes convertible Jamaica and Daf were enjoying their first taste of the good life but for Jamaica a single taste taste of something good always made her hungry for more late in nineteen eighty. Jamaica picked up the phone. It was death he'd been arrested and he needed her to post his bail so she did what we all do. When we need help she called her mother. Lonnie gave Jamaica the number for a bail bondsman. She knew named Willie at Willy's instruction. Jamaica arrived at the Venice police station with ten thousand dollars cash cash for deaths bail a Rolls Royce. The color of money rolled smoothly into the lot. The man who emerged wore a suit suit and matching crocodile leather boots and a belt he owned a house in Baldwin Hills with a view of downtown. Los Angeles that day. DAF got out in jail in Jamaica met a man who is rich as she wanted to be. She was convinced that there was more than bail. Money behind Willy's wealth it took several weeks but after many phone calls and meals together to Meco one willie's trust. She finally got the call she'd been waiting for. Willie was ready to work with her. We'll learn what surprises Willie had in store for Jamaica. After this and now back to the story by late nineteen eighty Jimmy Thomson was eighteen years old and she had just I met a bail bondsman named Willy who had helped get her boyfriend daf out of jail. Yet Willie was extravagantly wealthy. Jamaica was convinced pins. He was doing some illicit business on the side and she wanted in after weeks of convincing Jamaica. It finally arranged a business business meeting. When Jamaica arrived at the address Willie gave her it was a motel. Jimmy Carr's guard was up she and Willie had met at restaurants or at his house in the past. She wasn't sure what to expect but the money was calling so she got out of the car. Willie welcomed her in the room was uninhabited except for Gucci Duffel Bag Jamaica remain standing while Willie gave her a long speech speech about how the work he was entrusting her with required patience organization loyalty. Jamaica wished he would just get to the point and eventually Willie opened the Duffel bag inside was a triple beam scale. Willie started to instruct Jamaica makeup on how to use it but this time she cut him off she knew what to do with a scale so willy finally cut to the chase. The next thing he pulled out of the bag was a plastic sandwich bag stuffed with a fine white powder cocaine. It was the first time Jamaica laid eyes is on the drug that would define her life. Willie show Jamaica how to measure the cocaine and what to charge one hundred dollars for a gram fifty for half and twenty five for a quarter when Jamaica asked how much Willie wanted for the drugs and scale he told older the first batch was complimentary and then he showed her a role of colored condoms pick a flavour Willie had treated Jamaica like a professional so far and she found this proposal demeaning and foul but that cocaine could bring Jamaica and Daf the lifestyle she'd always always dreamed of shape picked. Cherry that day Jamaica learned an important lesson about how to build trust and her business relationships ships in the future Jamaica would make sure she was the one offering the condoms she would be in control. We'll Jamaica and DAFT's cocaine business took off fast. Soon Willie was delivering their cocaine kilo at a time and and then it was two kilos and then it was four as Daf often said they were winning but just as Jamaica and damp were getting established as cocaine dealers. The game changed again. A new form of cocaine was being born right there in Los Angeles crack. Mark powdered cocaine could be cooked with a little baking soda and water to form smokable rocks this treatment exponentially magnified fide the euphoric effects of cocaine because smoking the drug made it hit the system faster as soon as the high wore off users immediately wanted wanted more. It was incredibly addictive and cheaper than powdered cocaine in one thousand nine hundred eighty. The Los Angeles Police Department was overwhelmed and according to Jackie Hickey a former gang task force officer for the L. A. P. D.. It felt like crack was being sold on every corner. Hickey even recalled a Christmas tree lot that accepted crack as payment cars parked on the street would have their antennas ripped off so they could be used as makeshift crack. Pipes Jamaica learned about crack when our customers started asking for it soon soon her and deaths entire business was transformed. They had four to five crack houses running at a time cooking and selling the drug <music> but a larger business meant more risks. Some of Daf in Jamaica's workers were robbed and even murdered after graduating from high school Jamaica carried had a gun in their designer handbags and had no qualms about pulling the trigger but she and Daf used another motivator even more powerful than fear to hold their your business together generosity. Daf in Jamaica rolled up all the singles that came through their doors into fifty dollar bundles these these were given to children the homeless and families in need around their neighbourhood Daphne. Jamaica also hosted barbecues for their entire neighborhood had an all their employees every weekend in the local park death hired a different D._J.. Every week to keep the tunes flowing the power couple would often make an entrance emerging from one of their luxury vehicles in matching outfits. They enjoyed rewarding the people who worked for them mm-hmm and they knew it paid dividends their workers. Loyalty was essential to giving Jamaica and damp the security. They needed to build a family in November nineteen eighty one less than a year after they began selling cocaine. Jamaica realized she was pregnant. This time the pregnancy was a joyous one. Jamaica hope the baby would be a boy so it would look like her Daf. Daf was hoping for just the opposite. Immediately plays Jamaica on maternity leave. He wouldn't allow her to touch the drugs but she did still count the money and deposited in the bank in July nineteen eighty two when Jamaica was twenty years old after nearly twenty four hours of labor. Anthony Junior was born and his birth inspired such joy in his parents that a few months later they drove to Las Vegas and got married when they got back to L._A.. They moved into their first house. They were still winning but all winning streaks must come to an end in early nineteen eighty-three Daf and Jamaica were having breakfast at the Eminem a local cafe where many of their friends congregated Jamaica had been out of touch touch with the day to day of the game for over a year but she was about to be tagged back into play one of their dealers brought over a Fatman Dan and flashy jewelry and shoes to meet Daf his name was Judah. It was a simple introduction and handshake but Jamaica was immediately really skeptical after Judah left. Jamaica handed Daf A. WET NAP. She didn't want him contaminated by someone she didn't trust Jamaica's distrust only increased after she and damp socialized with Judah they went out on two different occasions. Judah brought to different women Um and introduced each one of them as his wife. Jamaica definitely didn't want daffy associating with someone who disrespected women that way but despite her reservations Juden death went into business together before long Daf was staying out all night he always claimed claimed he'd been out with Judah but Jimmy Carr's gut told her something more was going on she started snooping and deaths drawers and cars until hill she found proof of her suspicions. A pile of unpaid parking tickets issued at a location. She wasn't familiar with that was all she needed to conclude. Her husband was cheating on her Jamaica brewed herself a cup of tea and sat at her kitchen table able to wait for hours. Our imagination ran wild and a rage ballooned. Jimmy Carr's possessiveness over death had only grown since the beating. She'd given her friend in the Burger King parking lot in highschool daft should have known he was playing with fire when he finally came home around three in the morning. Jamaica didn't ask questions she just started firing her gun. Somehow doubt dodged all the bullets and left in a hurry to sleep at his mother's house that Jamaica wasn't finished with him. She used find it for one one to locate the cross streets for the address arrests were Daf had been issued the tickets she took a sleeping anthony out of bed and dropped him off at Lonnie's house then she drove to the address on the tickets the Andress letter to an apartment building and parked in the alleyway behind it was daft truck. Jamaica wasted no time she picked up an empty bottle in the alley and swung it into the windshield. The trucks alarm immediately went off seconds later. A woman came running out of the building. The woman cut off the alarm which meant she had deaths keys. Jamaica smiled here was the woman who had ruined Jamaica's macos Marriage Emeka leapt at the woman grabbed her hair to hold her head still and punched her over and over as soon as Jamaica Emeka heard gunshots she knew it was time to retreat as she fled she saw Daf behind her shirtless and pointing a huge gun at her. The honeymoon was finally over for the next couple of weeks Daf called and paged Emeka nonstop. Sometimes she talk to him but mostly she'd let the calls go unanswered death had betrayed her and she didn't think there was anything he could do to regain her trust roast after Jamaica and Daf had been separated for awhile. Jimmy Carr's father took her an anthony for a drive. Jamaica's father worked in construction and he said he wanted to show them a fabulous mansion. He'd been working on in Encino a suburb of Los Angeles the neighborhood hood was packed with Million Dollar Mansions. Jamaica's father kept naming off the celebrities that live there like Marlin Jackson Michael Jackson's brother then her father flipped down his visor and push the button on a remote hidden inside the heavy metal gate to the property in front of them swung open and suddenly they were headed up the long driveway towards the Opulent House but Jamaica could tell this property wasn't under construction. It looked finished. It looked perfect. Jimmy Carr's father invited them inside to look around. The interior of the house was just as gorgeous gorgeous is the exterior there were marble floors and a crystal Chandelier in the entry. The master suite featured an oversized whirlpool tub and heated floors. The backyard was just as breathtaking outfitted with a pool and hot TUB. The entire property was monitored by security cameras campers. It was a dream when Jamaica asked her father who was moving in. He just smiled an offer to show her the garage. The GARAGE DOOR SLID UP TO REVEAL DAF waiting inside anthony random excitedly and DAF swept him into a tight hug. Then Daf handed Jamaica two sets of keys one to the House and one to a new B._M._w.. Already parked in the Garage Jamaica Emeka took back her husband and together they moved into the mansion in Encino. Jamaica and Daf were back together and closer closer than ever for deaths birthday that year Jamaica threw him a surprise party at a club on sunset called the candy store. Everything the decorations corporations the catering the entertainment the cake was first class but Jamaica really outdid herself with the gift accustomed. Tom Painted collinet roadster which she unveiled in front of the Party guests today nineteen eighties Clin as sells for about forty five thousand dollars I but even though things between Davin Jamaica were on the mend the game was becoming more violent and dangerous than ever although they were physically removed from the brutality that plagued south central Los Angeles their mansion wasn't a fortress in late nineteen eighty-four. I four Jamaica suggested the damn for the first time that they leave Los Angeles. She had a friend raising her family in Texas and it sounded like a good place as for them to start over with a legitimate business they could take their money and get out of the game. Daf was willing to consider it but the game name had other plans the very next day November Twenty Third Nineteen eighty-four twenty two year old Jamaica prepared breakfast first embiid for deaf. She wanted to make sure their conversation about the move to Texas started off on the right foot but when she brought the food upstairs I was getting ready to leave to make a protested that she wanted to discuss their plans daft smiled and told her they they do whatever she wanted to Meco was delighted and kissed her husband Goodbye. Then she called her friend in Texas and they spent hours planning the move. Who've then Daf called? He sounded pleased. He told Jamaica he was winning and he would be home soon. He in Jamaica exchanged. I love US and hung up a few hours later. Another friend of Jamaica's called. She asked if Daf was okay. She just heard he'd been shot at a car wash where he liked to play craps. Jamaica assured her friend that DAF was fine. She just spoken with him. Then Jamaica's pager went off. She returned the call. It was another friend reporting the same news. Jimmy Carr's stomach dropped. The House phone rang again this time it was daft's mother. She asked Jamaica to come to the house. A DAF had been shot and she wanted Jamaica to come with her to the hospital. Jamaica's worst fears were coming true. Jamaica put Anthony in the car and sped over to dance mother's house by the time she reached it. The entire block was jammed with cars. She pulled over and walked through the crowd owed. She saw an unwelcome face approaching. Judah Judah spoke in a monotone that conveyed finality but not one in bit of remorse Daf was dead. Jamaica was stunned. Suddenly her perfect life was shattered. She he was a widow and her son Anthony. No longer had a father. Jamaica never met damps mother at the hospital. She went straight to the city morgue. Thanks again for listening to kingpins join join US next week to find out how Jamaica expands her Los Angeles cocaine empire nationwide and how her love for her son made it all come crashing crashing down for more information on Jamaica Thomson Hairston amongst the many sources we used we found her memoir Queen Pin Britain by Jamaica Thompson Hairston and David Ritz extremely helpful to our research. You can find more episodes of kingpins as well as all of our casts yes other shows on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts several of you have asked how to help us if you enjoy the show the best way to help doc is to leave a five star review and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at Bar cast network. We'll see you next next time. Kingpins was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the podcast network it it is produced by Max and Ron Cutler with sound design by Andy Weights Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Moller additional production assistance offense by Maggie admire and Freddie Beckley. This episode of kingpins was written by Hannah Macintosh then stars Kate Leonard and Howell target. Now that are episode has finished. It's a great time to check out. The new park has original con artists. The first episode is about Bernie Madoff Atop Wall Street market maker who operated an elaborate Ponzi scheme and con thousands of clients alliance out of approximately sixty five billion dollars search for and subscribe to Con Artists
Queen Pin Pt. 2: Jemeker Thompson
"Due to the graphic nature of this queen pins crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder sex and drug abuse that some people may find find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. Jamaica couldn't believe she'd made it. She hadn't didn't seen her son anthony for six months. They're only contact was on the phone and every phone call ended the same way with her son asking thing when she was coming home for nearly two years jamaica had been a fugitive on the run from federal law enforcement so far she's stayed eight one step ahead by being cautious and avoiding risk until today today june twenty third nineteen ninety-three was anthony sixth sixth grade graduation and jamaica wasn't going to miss one more of her babies milestones jamaica grabbed the dozen yellow roses she she picked out for anthony and walked across the quiet parking lot she derived after the ceremony began on purpose so she wouldn't have to scan for law enforcement in the crowd jamaica. Let herself into the auditorium. The ceremony was almost complete. The graduates were up on stage singing. Heal the world by michael jackson for their parents and teachers jamaica searched the kids on stage and found her anthony she it was so proud until she felt a hand gripping her arm a- voice whispered close to her ear. Don't make a scene. You're under arrest and i'm kate leonard and this is kingpins podcast original every friday we journey inside the ranks of organized crime rings from street gangs to mafiosos to understand stan how a kingpin or queen pin rises to the top of the underworld and why they fall as we follow the lives of infamous crime bosses we'll explore how money and power changed them and how it changed the community around them last week jamaica and her husband daf expanded did their marijuana business into a lucrative los angeles cocaine ring but their success ended up getting half killed when jamaica was just twenty two you this week we'll explore how jamaica rebuilt after daft's death and how she expanded their business exponentially becoming one of the richest and most powerful drug dealers the united states has ever seen at park. Has we're grateful for you. Our listeners you allow us is to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing. Reach out on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter podcast network jamaica thompson harrison in her late husband daf ran a very successful and lucrative cocaine ring in los angeles in the early early nineteen eighties. Jamaica daf had a son anthony in one thousand nine hundred eighty two and moved into a mansion in the suburbs. The game name as insiders called the drug business was only bringing the good life that is until jimmy got a phone call november twenty third nineteen eighty four death had been murdered. Doffs funeral was an enormous event for their entire community. The ceremony any was so packed that it was standing room only and though they were not invited local police were also in attendance in addition to officers officers on the ground l._a._p._d. Monitored everything from a helicopter when the casket was opened for the final viewing at the end of the service purpose. Anthony yelled daddy wake up jamaica's heart broke jamaica refers to the time after daft's death as her hibernation. She was extremely depressed. Rarely leaving the house or even getting out of bed. Sonia a fringe amiga has is referred to as her angel moved into take care of her and anthony jamaica removed herself from everything unable to face the game or parenting parenting without daf as her partner. Mike von hill a former d._a. Agent interviewed for the netflix documentary series druglords said that after after dass death they stopped paying jamaica much attention. Once staff was killed. We thought that might be the end of cocaine trafficking for jamaica geico simply because drug trafficking is male-dominated for a woman to be able to make it. She has to be extremely cunning. Extremely bright and extremely dreamily ruthless jimmy was all that and more she would go on to far exceed the d._a.'s expectations but it would take another another unexpected tragedy to yank her out of the stupor of depression one day screams bowl jamaica out of bed dashed downstairs an out onto the back patio. It was sonja screaming because anthony was floating face down in the pool cool. Jamaica launched herself into the pool and paddled her son to the edge. She pulled him onto the pool deck and screen for sonia to mccollum ambulance as jamaica administered c._p._r. She prayed to god for her son's life. She had just buried her husband a few months ago. She couldn't couldn't handle the lord taking her son as well. Jamaica's prayers were answered. Anthony survived. He spent the next week recovering. Recovering in a children's hospital and jamaica stayed by his side. They received many visitors including some jamaica and daft's former employees. Jamaica was touched by this outpouring of support after anthony was discharged reggie. One of the dealers that had turned up at the hospital came to jimmy carr's house. He reminded jamaica that she couldn't just look after her own family. She and daf had provided a lot of people with the livelihood and they had all been out of work since staffs homicide. Jamaica was still grappling with her guilt overdrafts murder. She never trusted justin. Damps business partner judah judah introduced staff to the woman he had an affair with and judah was the person who told jimmy that damp was dead dead. He even had the audacity to ask jamaica to repay a debt. He claimed daf owed him. If jamaica was going to return to the game she couldn't tolerate working with anyone. She didn't trust she would listen to her gut. First and only the the next morning jamaica went to her favorite nordstrom. Jamaica usually wore the latest from phelan jordache but when the personal shopper showed her sportswear she stop stop them. She was on the market for a new look. She left nordstrom was suits. In every color by early nineteen eighty-five jamaica was back in the game but she was a whole new player. Jamaica called the bail bondsman who went by the name willie he was jamaica and daft's original original source for cocaine with one phone. Call jamaica bought at willy's entire stock but this time she didn't store the dope in her garage judge. She appointed one of her workers to take charge of cutting the pure product and distributing it to dealers in a location far from her home in encino. Now jamaica never wanted her money and drugs in the same place so she made a separate plan for payments. Jamaica rented a unit in an apartment that building her friend and need a managed in installed a trusted worker there this would be the drop off for cash jamaica headset up her new operations so that she called the shots but never came in direct contact with the drugs are the cash at least not until she was withdrawing it from her safety deposit. Is it box jamaica new that keeping herself physically removed from day to day meant that law enforcement would have a harder time proving her role in the drug ring but that removal meant jamaica needed absolute loyalty from her workers without out daft a balance her out jamaica leaned into the traditional drug dealer enforcement method fear all her workers new betrayal was not corruption jamaica sister-in-law tammy bennett remember jimmy carr's fearsome reputation in an interview for the reels documentary series stories gangsters america's most evil tammy said everyone was scared of jamaica in the streets if she caught you in ally there's consequences glances. She had a short switch for example. When anita realized that the unit she had rented jamaica was being used as a money drop. She threatened to call the police. She hadn't agreed to be part of something. Illegal jamaica wasted no time setting her straight. Jamaica's meekest beatdown must have made an impression because anita never made trouble again once. Jamaica had things up and running again in l._a. Way she felt a familiar itch. It was time to expand doffs death hadn't changed jimmy carr's addiction to money and power and now that she was back in the game. She had to feed the beast. Jamaica knew just where to find new partners las vegas. Whenever there was a big boxing match in las vegas the city would fill with wealthy drug dealers from all over the country. When jamaica was there among them she she was in her element. These were her people and each one of them was a conduit to more money. Jamaica was always the only only female operator with real power in these circles but she knew it served her to keep her hustle under wraps instead she played into what these is powerful alpha males expected from a woman seduction and submission after some flirting and drinks deals usually begin with jamaica's mark asking if she knew anyone who source drugs jamaica would play coy. Tell them she had to make a couple of phone calls in reality. She was calling her workers to move hers stock but she was happy to play the middleman better to keep her partners guards down. Jamaica knew how to use her sex appeal to keep marks on the hook but she always reserved sex for the high rollers men who could provide lucrative active repeat business her time in the game had shown her how powerful sex could be to seal or sweden a deal as long as she was was in control. She really enjoyed it. When the terms were set jamaica would have fifty kilos of cocaine delivered to las vegas within twenty four hours next it might be one hundred kilos and just like that jamaica ahead expanded her business from los angeles to las vegas. Consider how much money jamaica was bringing in one kilo of cocaine contains a thousand grams in the eighties. A gram gram of cocaine ran you about one hundred dollars so a single kilo would net jamaica one hundred thousand dollars. Jamaica would sell up to one hundred hundred kilos at a time. That's ten million dollars with inflation. That would be almost twenty four million dollars. Today of course is jamaica didn't stop her expansion at vegas. Eventually jamaica got closer with one of the dealers she meant. She called him detroit. He enticed her to visit visit his home city and you guessed it detroit detroit put jamaica and her son anthony up in a luxurious hotel suite shower them with gifts and took them out to the finest restaurants. There was no discussion of sex or business which pleased jamaica the fact that detroit loyd was taking. It slow showed her that he was serious. He played the game with a capital g. After a solid month of feeling each other other out detroit made his move and characteristic low key fashion over dinner he casually asked jamaica about her profession that very night jamaica emeka gun on a plane to los angeles the next morning. She was back in detroit with two workers and fifty kilos of cocaine. She returned to the same high end hotel. Were detroit had been putting her up but this time she made her own reservation for two adjoining rooms she put the cocaine cain in one room and invited detroit into the other when the terms were met jamaica opened the door to the adjoining room. Her people brought in the the drugs during the next two months. Jamaica made more money than ever before the transport from l. a. to detroit meant she could charge our jim much higher price for the coke then she could get in los angeles or even las vegas. She left her son anthony with her mother lonnie and traveled with a select group rupa workers to detroit every week to deliver the dope. Jamaica smuggling method was simple. It was the mid nineteen eighties an airport security garrity was lax compared to today jamaica and a partner would wrap kilos of cocaine onto their bodies with plastic wrap or stuff them into extra are large girdles then they would put on dowdy outfits like overalls or a roomy mu dress when they walked through the airport. They just looked like fat women. They were never stopped on the return trip. They would wear the same outfits except instead of drugs. Their girdles would be stuffed with cash cash with all the money coming in jamaica realized she had to transform her business yet again. She was bringing in millions of dollars every week but if she wanted to use it for substantial purchases like a house or save it for her son she needed a legitimate business to launder her money but jamaica had spent her entire life working outside the confines of legal business. All her contacts were win the game. Could she transform herself again to find success. In the world of legal business stick around to find out traveling is always fun but it's even more fun with my away carry on suitcase. There are so many things that i like about it first off. It's it's stylish. That's the first thing that caught my eye. It's lightweight which is helpful when i have to carry it up the stairs of my friends five story walkup in brooklyn. It's also durable ruble which i found out when i accidentally dropped my suitcase down a flight of stairs at my friends five story walkup in brooklyn my way carry on comes with four four three hundred sixty degrees spinner wheels so it glides smoothly in the airport on the inside. It comes with a removable laundry bag that makes it easy to keep my dirty dirty clothes away from my clean clothes. Do you ever worry about your phone dying before t._s._a. Scans your boarding pass. Worry no more the away carry on adjustable battery allows you to charge your phone from your suitcase for twenty dollars off a suitcase visit away travel dot com slash slash king and use promo code king during checkout. That's a way travel dot com slash king and promo code king during checkout for twenty ninety dollars off a suitcase. What if your doctor didn't know what was wrong with you medicine. Jason isn't always an exact science. Sometimes it's a guessing game when the world's most renowned experts can explain what's wrong were left with a medical mystery mystery podcasts newest original medical mysteries brings high stakes storytelling and intrepid investigation to the hospital in the first medical procedural for the podcast space medical mysteries follows desperate patients battling mysterious symptoms says determined doctors race against the clock for a diagnosis diagnosis. How do you cure what you didn't know existed follow medical mysteries for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts or visit parkas dot constellation medical mysteries to listen now and be sure to stick around after our show to hear clip of the first episode of medical mysteries. You won't wanna miss it. Now back to the story in nineteen eighty seven less than three years after her husband daft's death jamaica jamaica thompson had not only revived their lucrative business distributing cocaine in los angeles but she'd expanded delivering drugs to detroit right and she was only twenty five but like the notorious b. I g said more money more problems. The cash was boring but there's a limit to what cash can do cash couldn't help jamaica qualify for a mortgage or save an inheritance for her son. Anthony and jamaica new knew that she would eventually need an exit strategy from the game a legitimate business would give her a fallback plan but jamaica had no idea where to begin again. She'd been playing the game her whole life and didn't even know what kind of business she should invest in her salvation would arrive at the hair salon alon in one thousand nine hundred seven emeka was getting her hair done by james. Gibson los angeles stylist who served all of the famous black women l._a. At the time i'm like actress cecily tyson in singers stephanie mills and sharyl gibson advised jamaica to get into the hair business. Jamaica immediately really took to the idea she knew black women took a lot of pride in their hair and they were willing to spend a lot of money on a high quality wig. That was is perfect for her purposes. The bigger the transaction the more efficient her business would be at wiping clean large sums of drug money so jamaica said about getting herself into the hair business gibson told you emeka at the highest quality hair was sourced from italy her time in the game had taught her to never waste her time on middleman so she said out to find her own connection at the sewers after a little searching jamaica found what she was looking for in palermo italy warehouses stocked with shiny beautiful natural hair then ben jamaica did what she did best she negotiated a great price handled all the shipping logistics and got her supply line in place of of course before hopping on the plane back to the states. She took a celebratory shopping trip at the gucci and fendi stores but the work wasn't wasn't over yet. Jimi knew that if her business was going to take off she needed to project the right image so she transformed herself yet again. She signed up for speech classes to enhance her communication skills. She worked with a personal trainer to get into great physical shape and she set up a corporation asian calling her business here distributors inc. The slogan was a poem hair. That glows is hair that flows when filkins exaggerates the air is merely the radiance of beautiful hair for the first time. Jamaica was a legitimate business woman in nineteen eighty eight at just twenty six years old. She was president of her own company with the help of james gibson. Jamaica quickly quickly became known to an entirely new clientele. She was working with the rich and famous like the singer shrill and the family of famed motown founder founder berry gordy junior jamaica was still traveling around los angeles to sell her product but now she was making sales to a different echelon of clients. She was entering the secure estates of the wealthy confidently handing her i._d. To an off duty police officer working security it was a new way of life and jamaica was digging it. She wrote in her memoir right then. I realized i could be the star in in any game. I played in nineteen eighty-eight. Jamaica was working at our highest level yet. She was living large in both halves of her double life. During the day she was a respected successful business woman president of here distributors inc. When she left the office does she became. The queen pin of the los angeles drug trade. Jamaica would even switch between roles when she was traveling. She attended the bronner brothers others international hair show in atlanta rounding up great exposure for both businesses as she partied her way through the whole weekend jamaica. I and hair distributors inc. Were big hits at the hair. Show jamaica was pleased to find that our talents were warming people up and brokering deals honed biker years playing the game were just as useful in her legitimate business. Jamaica also met two new men who could advance her game. She called one atlanta and one basketball. Jamaica knew it was going to be tricky to have two men working with her in atlanta if they learned about each other and got jealous it would be bad for business but you mieko went for it her success. Thus far fueled her confidence. She figured she she could handle the risk but jamaica should have been thinking about another kind of risk as her business expanded. She landed right back on the radar of the d._a. Criminal investigator john brown recalled the jamaica had an almost legendary status quote. She had a reputation tation as someone who could put together a major drug deal a half a million to a million dollars and she could do it repeatedly. The los angeles police department was also still investigating jamaica for drug distribution. Jackie hickey a gang task force officer with the l. a. p. d. joined forces with the d._a. In around nineteen ninety-two hickey was hell bent on bringing jamaica down because she believed that jamaica was providing riding the majority of the crack and cocaine poisoning the city of los angeles in the early nineties addiction to crack would reach epidemic proportions in l._a. One symptom of that epidemic was an incredible spike in violence. The combination of crazed addicts and brutal drug dealers had the entire city city on edge. The los angeles police department was overwhelmed in nineteen ninety. Two more than two thousand five hundred people were murdered in in los angeles. Not all the murders were directly drug related but police resources were stretched so thin serial killers were able to murder with near impunity also in nineteen ninety two the same year that murderers were reaching a peak in l._a. The acquittal of four los angeles police police officers who had beaten rodney king led to the infamous l._a. Riots two thousand national guardsmen had to be called in to restore order to the city city and it wasn't just los angeles that was falling into chaos in the late eighties and early nineties. The entire nation was in the grip of crack. A nineteen ninety senate panel found that abuse of cocaine was disturbingly widespread and treatment was not very effective pressure to stop the flow of crack and cocaine was immense but although local and federal law enforcement learned a lot about jamaica through informants an undercover agents. They didn't have a firsthand witness. Jamaica was very careful about who saw her handling drugs or money. It was always her own people bowl or the men. She made deals with directly who had just as much to lose as she did. Never anyone else jimmy carr's workers and associates were tightly controlled with a potent mix of loyalty and fear she was known for taking care of those who did right by her and as the rumors suggested for killing those who did not greg underwood former special agent with d._a. Says he worked with an informant that that was terrified of jamaica. The informant felt that quote jamaica would kill me just as quickly as she would. Spray raid to kill a roach. Mike hill another former d._a. Agent speculates that jamaica was capable of ordering murders at will but law enforcement meant had their own leverage to combat the expansion of drug trafficking federal sentencing laws were extremely rigorous. Starting in nineteen eighty six six any involvement with the drug business mandated a minimum ten year sentence for someone like jamaica it could be much more even life imprison the only way to avoid hard time snitch on other players the expected those statutes to make it easier ear to get jamaica's workers to flip honor but they underestimated the power. Emeka held over her people in nineteen nineteen. Ninety-one jamaica arranged to sell thirty kilos of cocaine to a distributor in las vegas. She set up an l._a. Local name dino how to make the delivery dino decided to make his arrival a showstopper he rented a fully outfitted limo and driver to bring him in the stash to to sin city the limo had it all a fully stocked minibar a great sound system in even disco ball dino was enjoying himself in the back seat but as the approached vegas traffic got heavy dino was impatient. He rolled down his window in the back so he pulled out his gun and pointed it at the car next to them. Cursing the limo was able to pull ahead but not thirty minutes later. It was pulled over by the highway patrol and jamaica's thirty kilos were discovered the d._a. An l._a._p._d. Felt sure that they'd finally apprehended apprehended. Someone who would inform on jamaica dino was a convicted felon facing another twenty to thirty years in prison but he took the time rather than flip on his queen pin so law enforcement kept biding their time they predicted that jamaica's appetite tight for money and power would only continue to expand and the farther reach the more people she made deals with the more likely she would put her trust in the wrong person for jamaica that wrong person wouldn't look wrong at all in fact they would look very very very right in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Jimmy carr's friend james gibson the l._a. Hairstylist who had helped get hair distribution inc. Off off the ground invited her to a music studio to meet his friend who called the next marvin gaye. A very attractive man was in front of the mike. His name was percy bratton but he introduced himself as cheese. Jamaica stayed in the studio all night listening to him perform afterwards they went out for fried chicken and waffles. Jamaica was smitten. Although cheese worked often in los angeles he also so spent a lot of time in his home state of illinois. Seeing a new market on the horizon jamaica quickly vetted and bedded cheese so they could go into business together over the next two years. She's became one of jamaica's best customers and boyfriends buying cocaine pounds at a time and lavishing her with gifts whenever he was in los angeles but jamaica had finally gone one market too far in nineteen ninety. One one of cheeses distributors was arrested in los angeles with thousands of dollars in cash. The distributor quickly flipped on cheese <music> who was arrested in illinois and charged with intent to distribute cocaine facing the possibility of ten years or more in prison cheese. I decided to give up jamaica. The feds finally had a witness willing to turn informant but they didn't have the queen pin in april nineteen ninety. One jamaica was indicted on federal drug conspiracy and money laundering charges. Federal agents showed up up to hair distributors inc. But jamaica wasn't there. She was lucky enough to be working off site and one of her loyal workers call to alert her the the f._b._i. N._d._a. Were looking for her. Jamaica immediately moved anthony in with her mother money. Once she was able to put together a series of false identities she went on the run her work in the game and she had contacts all over the country and plenty of them were happy to put her up jamaica wrote in her memoir that the men she stayed with during this time. We're like drawers in a desk. I could open and close them whenever i wanted to. I i was in control. The feds began working with u._s. Marshals to try and track jamaica but it was slow going jimmy carr's millions in drug money meant she could keep running forever but she couldn't stay away from los angeles for too long and law enforcement was about to get wise in nineteen ninety-two frustrated d._a. Agent greg underwood came to l._a. To do some investigating instigating himself he didn't have a lot to go on but he did know where the offices of hair distributors inc. Were located. He obtained a search warrant and did a sweep but there was no evidence of illegal activity. A local police sergeant pointed out a framed certificate from cowan elementary entry a local elementary school hanging on the wall near jimmy carr's desk. It was an award for anthony underwood's. Next move was to call callan elementary. He learned the commencement was in june. Anthony would be graduating from sixth grade. It felt like a long shot. Awed underwood was so fixated on the queen pen. He was ready to act on a hunch up next next the d._a. Orchestrates an ambitious and complex sting at an elementary school graduation now back to the story. Jimmy thomson had been running from law enforcement ever since a federal indictment was filed against her in april nineteen ninety one she had drug and romantic connections across the country that made it easy to keep moving and changing her identity to evade authorities she she spent time in birmingham miami chicago detroit atlanta. Almost two years went by this way. She spent her thirtieth and thirty first birthdays on the run with nothing else to go on d._a. Agent greg underwood looked into jamaica son anthony who had been living with jamaica's mother lonnie while she was on the lam when underwood contacted anthony school in june of nineteen ninety-three he learned that anthony was. It's about to graduate from sixth grade. Underwood had a hunch that jamaica would want to see her son in a cap and gown underwood partnered with the the u._s. Marshals service to play several undercover deputies at the graduation. Some were dressed as janitors. Some were dressed as parents and teachers teachers. They all knew who their target was. When the ceremony got underway in emeka hadn't shown up underwood was was probably a little disappointed. He burned through a lot of resources on a hunch that looked like it wasn't going to pan out the ceremony was at its tail and when the doors to the auditorium creaked open for a late comer a finely dressed black woman carrying a bouquet she wore dark tinted chanel l. sunglasses in the dimly lit auditorium. The undercover deputies tensed. It was her as soon as jamaica sat down down. The two nearest deputies approached her on either side each grabbing one of her arms one of them whispered in her ear that she was under arrest. She shouldn't make a scene. It was at that moment that anthony still onstage spotted his mother. Joy blossomed on his face ace. He shouted for her and jumped off stage to run to her. Jamaica felt like her insides. Were being torn up. She wanted nothing more than to hug her son but she was sick at the thought that he was about to witness her arrest. Another thought flashed across jamaica's mind signed her purse contained multiple fake. I._d.'s and credit cards linked to where aliases. This evidence could create an entire new case against her impulsively. She threw the purrs to a friend. Although the undercover agents wanted that purse and the evidence inside it her friend wouldn't give it yup and the agents were too wary of causing a scene to press the matter jamaica's quick thinking and loyal friends saved her again. Anthony slowed as he got closer to his mother. He could tell something wasn't right. Jamaica was crushed but she swallowed her emotion emotion and asked one of the deputies holding her if she could hug her son. The deputy released her jamaica had a few glorious seconds to embrace her boy. She didn't ever want to let him go but she had to as she was led to the waiting patrol car. Jamaica looked back and saw her son's sounds face full of tears. The pit in her stomach could have swallowed her whole jamaica said that being arrested in front of her son was quote the worst feeling that any mother can feel jamaica new anthony was experiencing the same emotions. She felt when her family was evicted. All all those years ago embarrassment shame isolation loneliness the same public humiliation everything everything had changed for jamaica again for the second time in her life. She felt she was living in a nightmare that she had never imagined she said ed. I thought i had everything under control but when they put those handcuffs on me. I was in their world after her arrest jamaica. Mika was extradited back to illinois. She was kept in a small county jail outside saint louis while she waited for her trial. The water that came out of the faucet acid in her cell was so filthy jamaica only drank the off brand kool-aid jail provided the case against jamaica rested did on testimony from cheese and his family members who worked in the drug trade. Jamaica felt confident going into trial cheese was a drug user himself and his family's conflict of interest should make their testimony easy to discredit but the state of illinois had a secret trump card jamaica's john on dropped open when cassandra a secretary from hair distributors inc. Walked into the courtroom she testified the jamaica had asked her to transport drugs to cheese. He's in illinois. Jamaica felt an acute sense of betrayal cheese had chosen to testify against her but in return he was retaining his freedom. Cassandra wasn't facing years in prison. She was just resentful. That jamaica tried to involve her in illegal activities. It was the very beginning of a long journey. Jamaica was about to embark on the journey toward understanding the destruction. She had sewn by distributing drugs. Wchs jamaica was found guilty of conspiracy to distribute cocaine and money laundering she was facing the possibility of twenty five years to life in in prison but she would have to wait six months in that horrible county jail for sentencing the district attorney offered jamaica a deal similar to cheeses. She could decrease her sentence if she provided incriminating evidence against other players in the game. Jamaica refused the way she saw it. All her choices were her own and no one else should have to face consequences for her actions for the first time since her family was evicted all those years ago jamaica was not in control of her own life she had dedicated her life's work to building and maintaining that control all but ironically it was that work that stripped the control from her jamaica's conviction also meant that she was finally faced with the consequences quences the game had on her community. She felt she had done right by her workers but she had never considered the damage all the drugs were doing to her city now that she saw it. The guilt was almost too heavy to bear well. Jamaica waited for her sentence. The stress and poor diet at the jail made her. Ill after suffering through an exhausting pre sentencing interview. Jamaica was desperate for relief. She went to the jail's hills chapel for the first time seeking solace inside. A preacher was working with a room of inmates when he asked the group. If anyone wanted to receive the holy spirit jimmy volunteered the preacher put his hand on jimmy carr's forehead spreading reading oil across it the moment his fingers touched her head. Jamaica began speaking in a language she'd never heard before and didn't understand and jamaica was overwhelmed by a gush of love and jubilation. She could feel god working inside her when the preacher you're asking if anyone wished to be baptized. Jamaica came forward to the silver baptismal font jamaica wrote in her memoir. When i came out of the water i began to speak in my new language but this time i knew exactly what i was saying. She returned to her cell. A baby in in christ jamaica immediately knelt in front of her bunk and began to pray. She recounted later. I remember getting on my bunk and putting the cover over my head and i began to confess every sin for hours i felt so pure and and so clean and so refreshed and so new all night jamaica remained on her knees coming clean she confess sin when she forgotten about since she had never spoken aloud to another human being even though she'd been up all night when the sun came up she felt relaxed and tranquil she was forgiven while she waited for her sentence. Jamaica read the bible twice twice. She participated in bible study in the chapel and attended every service she could. She started ministering to the other inmates and even the guards in the jail and jamaica continued working on herself. She wrote. I continued to see my past for what it was. There was much pride shame and pain but god broke it all down and replaced it with love joy and kindness when it came time for jamaica to be sentenced six months after she was convicted. She felt like a new woman but the the d._a. Didn't hold back in his statement. He said jamaica was quote. A menace to society jamaica had ruined families and destroyed lives lives but then jimmy received a sentence of fifteen years on the low end of what she expected. Jamaica had been forest to relinquish the control that had been her soul fixation for so many years but when she did god really came through for her jamaica continued to expand her faith during her time in prison she continued to minister to inmates and she made a difference in many any lives jamaica even ministered to some famous convicts including griselda blanco who listeners may remember as another queen pen and cocaine mogul jamaica helped an inmate regain her faith after receiving a terminal cancer diagnosis she even felt that sometimes sometimes god was speaking to her. She correctly predicted the outcomes of a few of her charges cases but only when they were favourable jamaica. Mika did her best to continue mothering her son from prison every single day she could jamaica got on the phone so she could speak to her son before he went to school cool in the morning once a month anthony would come to the prison and visit as anthony got older. His visits became less frequent jamaica. Mika miss seeing her boy but she knew she had to give him the freedom to make his own choices and anthony sure did his mother proud in two thousand three when anthony was nineteen. There was a skateboarding showcase on the t._v. In the prison lounge jamaica suddenly looked up when she heard the announcer say next up on the vancouver slam city jam pro skateboarder anthony moseley jamaica was astonished and then she saw a face on this grand that look just like hers that professional skateboarder was her son by jimmy zone account. She was hollering and screaming streaming. That's my son. Jamaica had no doubt god was continuing to move in her life. After serving thirteen years she was released in two thousand five soon after her release. Jamaica founded second chance evangelical ministries an organization dedicated dedicated to serving the incarcerated she continues to tell her story in all kinds of forums from poll pits in interviews and in letters to incarcerated serrated individuals. Her message often boils down to this quote. You are looking at a miracle. I should be dead but i'm alive for a reason to tell you that there is hope my hope came through jesus. He is alive. I am redeemed. Jamaica had survived the game that killed her. I love during a prison sentence. That could have broken her down. Jamaica chose to rise up and now she's dedicated the time she has left to helping others rise with her. Thanks again for listening to kingpins for more information on jimmy thomson hairston among the many sources we used we found the memoir queen pin britain in by jimmy thompson hairston and david ritz extremely helpful to our research. You can find more episodes of kingpins as well as all of our casts other other shows on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts several of you have asked how to help us if you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave with a five star review and don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. Kingpins was created by max cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the park has network it is produced by max and ron cutler her with sound design by andy weights production assistance by ron shapiro and paul molitor additional production assistance by maggie admire and freddie beckley clearly. This episode of kingpins was written by hannah mcintosh and stars kate leonard and how will now that are episode is over. Here's the clip of the first episode of the podcast original medical mysteries. It's about joseph joseph merrick a man with severe deformities who was first exhibited at a freak show as the elephant man follow medical mysteries for free on spotify vianney anywhere you listen to podcasts or visit podcast dot com slash medical mysteries to listen now on a cold monday morning november eighteen eighty four a canvas banner was unfurled furled over a shop window on white chapel road in london. The crude painting showed a humanoid creature with an elephant's trunk rampaging through the jungle. It was monstrous unfathomable. It was the elephant man half man and half off in elephant atop headed showman barked at the doctors and students trailing in to the london hospital right across the street for just s. two pence they could see the specimen for themselves but ladies in delicate health were advised not to step inside the elephant man's condition edition could be quite a shock as the man led the curious spectators in he warned them ladies and gentlemen brace for yourselves to witness one who is probably the most remarkable human being ever to draw the breath of life and then he pulled back the curtain standing on the small stage was a horribly disfigured man covered in folds of drooping lumpy skin. His right arm was twice as big as the left ending a massive finn like hand his his feet were oversized flat and wrinkled like an elephants his head was bizarrely distorted and covered in hard tumors whereas a bony mass protruded from his upper lip and buried behind the swollen misshapen brow or a pair brown eyes gentle right and unmistakably human imagine sitting across the desk from your doctor. The splashy x rays in our eyes are clipped up on the wall. The test results are in a manila folder tilted. Just out of your line of sight questions are already forming in your mind. Is it serious. What's my chance of recovery. Will my insurance pay for this. Imagine your doctor looking you in the eye and saying we don't know when our bodies bodies fail we trust doctors to diagnose the problem but medicine isn't always an exact science. Sometimes it's a guessing game same with life or death stakes. This is medical mysteries a podcast original. I mali and i'm richard. Every tuesday will look at the strangest real life medical cases in history and the experts who raced against the clock to solve them as we follow these high a intensity stories will explore medical research that might solve the puzzle next week in part two will analyze all the evidence and try to find an answer you can find episodes of medical mysteries and all other park last originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts this this is our first episode on joseph carey merrick who became well known as the elephant man in the eighteen eighties this week. We'll we'll explore. The development of merrick's baffling condition and his doctors attempts to diagnose it next week. We'll look at his improbable rise as to fame in london high society in the research that might have finally explained his illness <music> today according to the c._d._c. about three percent of all newborns born with congenital disorders commonly known known as birth defects this can include anything from cleft palates to heart malformations two extra fingers or toes congenital disorders were just as common in the late nineteenth century as they are today but the elephant man symptoms were more extreme than anything his doctors had ever seen from the age of five joseph merrick began to exhibit strange bony growths on his face and skull his feet and right arm grew out of proportion russian to the rest of his body and his spine was curved by severe scoliosis the skin all over his body took on a rough lumpy texture and folds folds of loose overgrown skin hung down from his head back and chest the condition progressed over the course of his life and by the time he reached adulthood his symptoms were so shocking that he couldn't leave the house without causing a panic on the streets during joseph's lifetime very very little was known about human genetics but his unique set of symptoms helped researchers connect the dots between a few disorders that weren't thought to the have an underlying cause for the next two episodes will look at the evolving theories about what caused his condition was it caused by trauma. His mother suffered while he was in the womb. Was it a combination of skin disorders known as dermatologists and pecci dermott acela and if so how do his bone deformities fit into the picture finally will look genetic research from later decades that might explain the root of his symptoms but first. Let's start with the theory. That joseph himself accepted as the truth maternal impression for this. We have to go back to the very beginning in may of eighteen sixty two womb wells travelling menagerie pass through leicester england. The national was a collection of exotic animals drafts lepers zebras lions and elephants mary jane merrick at twenty five year old. Sunday schoolteacher was in the crowd watching the animals prey down the street. She was six months pregnant with her first child and so far the pregnancy had gone smoothly. She kept a hand on her belly dreaming of all the things they would do and see together once her child was born suddenly certainly the crowd swelled forward and mary was pushed into the road. She fell right in the path of the elephants. She looked up to see a pair of thick wrinkled wrinkled feet stomping torture. She scrambled out of the way just in time. As the elephants brushed past she caught her breath and checked checked herself or injuries. She and her unborn child had made it out just fine three months later on august fifth eighteen sixty two. Mary gave birth to a perfectly healthy baby boy. They named him joseph after his father. They be joseph was in fine health for the first few years of his life. His first medical scared didn't come until age five when he tripped and fell badly lee injuring his left hip the wound became infected before it could he'll inflaming the hip bone and causing permanent damage to the joint this made it difficult and painful for the young boy to move for the rest of his life. Joseph merrick would never be able to walk properly. He could only shuffle awful across the playground with his cane while the other children ran and played to make matters worse while his hip injury was still barely healing. Mary noticed something strange happening to her son's face. A swollen lump was growing out of his upper lip. At first it was only slightly lately raised as if he'd fallen down and landed on his face nothing to be too concerned about but as the months progressed it grew into a tumor that ran across his right cheek pressing his upper lip outwards gradually other symptoms started to develop his skin especially on his back and chest became loose and rough his right arm grew out of proportion as did his feet which were turning into thick shapeless bliss stumps and soon the hard lump of flesh on his lip was several inches long resembling rather unfortunately in elephants trunk. Mary's mind went back to the parade. She'd witnessed while pregnant. The elephant encounter must have scared her so badly. It affected the baby in her womb. Joseph was marked from before birth by the memory of his mother's fear as has bazaars it sounds this was actually a common medical theory at the time maternal impression or the idea that a mother's thoughts and emotions ocean's could affect a developing fetus gained popularity in the middle ages. It was believed that if a woman was particularly sad during pregnancy agency the child might be born with a predisposition towards depression or other mental illnesses or if a mother was traumatized by a certain animal the baby would be born with resemblance to that animal. This idea was based in folklore more than biology by the late nineteenth century. The theory was already falling out of favor as doctors gained a better understanding of genetics but while there's no evidence that specific thoughts our fears like a run in with a circus elephant can cause birth defects research does suggest that a mother's lifestyle diet and stress levels can impact active fetus's development the body stress response is regulated by the corticotropin-releasing hormone or c. r. h. This hormone is secreted by the hypothalamus. The part of the brain that regulates most bodily functions during pregnancy cr h is also produced by the placenta which can lead to highly elevated levels of stress hormones in the bloodstream and nineteen ninety-six study by developmental psychologist janet senate a._d._p. Etro found that in mothers who reported high levels of stress or depression their fetuses exhibited higher heart rates and were less responsive to external stimuli. Both of these factors are associated with an increased risk of anxiety and emotional regulation problems in childhood. This suggests that a mother can in a sense pass on anxiety or depression to their child exposure to stress hormones can also impact oregon development according to a two thousand eight study in developmental cycle biology quote during the last trimester of pregnancy exposure exposure to the stress hormone cortisol is critical for the maturation of the cardiovascular system the pulmonary system renal systems and overall fetal bill growth however there isn't sufficient evidence linking maternal stress to more severe congenital disorders like the symptoms five year old. Joseph america was exhibiting. It's also unlikely that one brief stressful event like a sudden fall during a parade would affect hormone levels. It's enough to harm a developing fetus but in the eighteen sixties maternal impression due to the elephant encounter was the best explanation anyone one could offer and five year old. Joseph seemed to accept it. He grew into a lonely shy child who spent most of his time reading mary arion courage to his love of learning as a sunday schoolteacher herself. She made sure her son's health. Issues didn't keep him out of class. The family's second child old william was born without any medical issues to speak of it appeared that whatever was wrong with joseph at least it didn't run in the family eh but in eighteen sixty seven the same year joseph started showing his symptoms. Mary gave birth to their third child. A daughter named marion records indicate that she was disabled from birth but the exact nature of her disability isn't clear congenital disorders are are often caused by hereditary genetic problems even if both parents appear perfectly healthy they still might be carrying genetic mutations that can be passed down to their children. If joseph and marianne both had similar symptoms it's possible that they both inherited the same you tation but it's also possible people that the two children's health problems were unrelated. There are many factors that can cause congenital disorders and we don't know enough about marion's means disability to suggest that it had anything in common with joseph's in spite of his ever worsening health problems joseph's early childhood hood was mostly happy then in eighteen seventy three another health related tragedy struck. The merrick family joseph's mother. Mary suddenly fell ill and died from bronchial pneumonia. It was devastating for ten year old joseph joseph. It apparently wasn't as devastating for joseph senior because within two years of his wife's death he had remarried to the families landlady landlady emma would antill emma was a widow with two daughters of her own and the new step sisters may joseph's young life miserable trouble by this point joseph's afflictions had progressed from mildly unusual to downright disturbing and the other children never let him forget forget it. These now like tumor on his mouth and cheek had grown considerably making it increasingly difficult for him to speak to to make matters worse. Another growth was forming on his forehead and sacks of spongy skin. Now hung down from the back of his skull a foul foul odor emanated from the skin growths no matter how often he bathed twelve year old joseph was always the odd one out whether it was at home home or at school to add injury to insult his hip problems made it impossible for him to run away from the bullies just a year after his is father's remarriage. Joseph left school at the customary age of thirteen at the insistence of his stepmother. He got a job at a cigar factory factory to do his part in supporting the family. This job was fine at first it didn't require much walking and he didn't have to interface with the public public but by the time he was fifteen his right hand had grown so large and heavy that it was impossible for him to roll cigars. He had no choice but to leave his job. However unemployment wasn't an option. The family's finances were tight and joseph stepmother stepmother. Emma didn't have any sympathy for his disability more than once. M._s. set his plate down for dinner with a sharp remark that it was more food then he had earned in a misguided attempt to keep the peace joseph's father put him to work at the family shop in a role he thought awed would be well suited to the boy's condition door to door sales. Y joseph senior thought his disabled shockingly deformed son would find success as a traveling salesman is a mystery for another day but undaunted by the challenge ahead fifteen year old joseph hobbled through the city city lugging his father's wears in one hand and his walking cane and the other he knocked on the door of each residents knowing that any any unsuspecting housewife who answered with simply scream and slam the door in his face. If a male homeowner answered the door there was a better chance they they might stand and gawk instead of immediately fleeing in fear when this happened joseph launched into his best sales pitch but because supply growth on his lip it was nearly impossible for anyone to understand what he was saying as he limped through through the streets a crowd of spectators would gather around staring whispering tried to persevere after all he was used to being teased for his appearance but it was impossible to sell his goods when he was constantly mobbed on the streets joseph was beaten severely by his father when he came home without meeting his daily sales quota by age sixteen he stopped coming home at all spending whatever money he made on food food and cheap lodging houses his only comfort was a small painted portrait of his mother which he carried with him everywhere she it always encouraged him to be his best even in spite of his condition if she was watching over him there was nothing he couldn't overcome but positive thinking couldn't change reality living on his own was unsustainable on the monday after christmas in eighteen seventy nine and seventeen year old joseph packed his bags and dragged himself through the iron gates of the leicester union workhouse in an effort to combat poverty the british government set up work houses where unemployed or infirm citizens could perform menial menial labor for room and board to encourage the poor to find their own jobs instead of relying on the government. The conditions in the work houses were so horrifying that only the most desperate would resort to applying joseph was given a uniform and lead through the drabs stone corridors to his dormitory matori where he'd share a room with as many men as they could physically fit inside every morning at six a._m. He was woken up for a breakfast vista bread and gruel he'd worked from seven in the morning to six at night chopping wood or unraveling old pieces of rope after after dinner he went back to the dorms and sat down to sleep because of the heavy masses of flesh growing from the back of his skull lying down strained his neck and made it difficult to breathe he had to sleep sitting up with his knees pulled up to his chest. His arms wrapped around his legs and his head resting forward on his knees. The next morning joseph would wake up from a very uncomfortable night of sleep sleep and get ready for another day of menial work. This was his daily routine for a soul crushing four years the only bright spot but came in eighteen eighty two about halfway through his stay. The elephant trunk tumor on his lip had grown to be eight or nine inches long and he could no longer move his mouth enough to chew so he was taken to the infirmary. The surgeons had no useful advice on what was causing joseph's condition or how to cure it but they were able to remove nearly four ounces of flesh from his upper lip just enough that he was able to open and close his mouth again and then it was back to the workhouse for an intelligent educated young man like joseph being locked away for a lifetime of of labor was a depressing prospect. He wanted to see the world he wanted to live life but what was there to do if he couldn't walk or talk or roam the streets without causing panic the answer came from a newspaper advertisement sam tors gaiety palace varieties. He's the most buzz worthy musical lester. Joseph knew the place well. It was just around the corner from his childhood home for his next big spectacle sam tour was looking for curiosity's novelties as some would say freaks of nature joseph merrick had found the perfect faked career coming up the elephant man steps into the limelight.
"Welcome to Romans road. The podcast of me Eddie. Roman this where we talk about evangelism and apologetic in all kinds of Kristin Scott. Today we journey to the island of Jamaica Yaman my friend Mike Stockwell and Robert Gray they are the forces behind cross country evangelism. You can find them at cross country evangelism dot com. That's their ministry cross country. EVANGELISM DOT COM. These guys are fulltime opener. Preachers missionaries to American college campuses sporting events events city events and anywhere. A crowd of unbelievers can be found. These guys are out there. evangelizing fulltime all the time. They're supported by their churches. Is and this is what these guys do. And so I've had the pleasure of evangelizing alongside them on the streets a few different times and I've had the opportunity of joining them on on their annual mission trip to Jamaica the land of Rasta and Gone Job and speaking of Ganga on my last trip to Jamaica. We were talking to people on the streets of new grill which is a beach town and we were walking past an outdoor bar and there was a young man smoking a joint and drinking a beer and I ended up talking to him now. He was polite and he didn't blow pot smoke in my face so I managed to get through this conversation without getting high and so before I get into this conversation. This brings up an important point if I as a Christian look down on sinners if I avoid people bull who smoke pot party. Listen to music with anti-christian lyrics or or are involved in any other kind of sin. If I organize my life so I'm never around sinners what's going to be hard for me to evangelize. Could you kind of need lost people in order to evangelize so we shouldn't be repulsed post by sinners. We should have compassion on them and one way to do that is to remember where you came from. But for the grace of God you could be were they. Are you know. First Corinthians six that lists all kinds of different and kinds of centers and then at the end of it it says and such were some some of you but you were washed. You were sanctified. You were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and the spirit of God and so no matter what kind of sinner you encounter. It's good to remember You know what I was once in their shoes. The only reason I'm different now is because I've been washed I've I've been changed. God has changed me and then in titus three starting in verse three it says for we also once were foolish ourselves. How's disobedient deceived in slave to various less and pleasures spending our life in malice? Envy hateful hating one another. But when the kindness of God our Savior and his love for mankind appeared he saved us not on the basis of these which we have done in righteousness but according into his mercy by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit whom he poured out upon US richly. Through Jesus Christ our Savior so so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life and so I don't have a hard time talking with sinners because I can can relate. I used to be one. God Save me and he can save anyone any kind of center any kind of sense. Don't look down on the lost look on them with compassion and again. Just remember where you came from. You're not better than any unbeliever. You're just better off because you have a savior reach out to the lost even when they're different than you just an important thing to remember right so we're going to start my conversation. Now with the Jamaica Mon the the man with the gun just cigarette in his hand so this guy is actually smoking a joint the entire conversation. I'm going to. I'm going to ask him about it at one point. This is how some people are Jamaica that you'll just you'll see people smoking pot out on the street and you'll smell it quite often and I guess they're just so used to it. It's not a big deal. It's not legal and I'm going to ask the guy about that but anyway this is me in Jamaica on let me ask you this. What do you think happens after you die? Where do we go? That's like with the not everybody wonders. I would personally say I need my open can give you answered. I'd know if it's true my dose. I give him my opinion or outburst and they say that when you die you're GONNA face. I George remained of course and I don't really really believes in regard nation but the were the cycle on you have to wonder. Where do they go with new life? Come from they did it at had you ever living sold inside spirit and it did the flesh. I One your flesh and we live in an athletic spirit inside which is leave after your diet so living saw they do whatever. That's all lives on. Okay so when you look at it I'm not saying regarding Sean is saw but it could be a possibility in certain people I on. Its IT in my head as a possibility. So that's really my point. No God is perfect. That's been deleted got. Nobody can home about until what did so right off the bat he is saying I don't know for sure. They talk about reincarnation. They talk about judgment enjoyment. And I'm not totally sure but reincarnation kinda seems to make sense because the world is a cycle so that's kind of always starting off here. You're what I usually do. Is I repeat back what they've said to me just to make sure I'm following them so you you're not sure but you think maybe reincarnation incarnation possibility possibility but you also say that there's some there's some kind of creator and there's there's GonNa be a judgment yeah I think thing so therefore everybody maybe not this big judgement day that log on Coleman Fire and strike you because I personally i. I'm not what I'm not no historical person that but I watch a few documentaries. Science documentary read also. So you know. I'll try to keep tape today. Did but when they reflect with no one to our our my I you know. I'm not sure how did call this time. They did. ACT THAT IS NON Oklahoma Fire for us and by personally. Don't believe that that's that's my personal view is a good ride and if you have a good heart they told you that you have to be a Christian to go to heaven I I don't the thing that okay. So he definitely has had some kind of teaching saying the Lord or the Lord is good Lord and he knows is about the coming judgment. You know he's talking about the Lord coming with fire and talking about Noah's Ark and he is communicating something that a lot of people believe not just in Jamaica but all over America they talk about judgment but if God is good good. He's not going to judge anyone. If God is good he's going to be nice he's going to be sweet. No one's GONNA get hurt. And that is a common belief and I kind of call that the lopsided view of God God has a bunch of different attributes. Love is one of them. But if you focus only on that one an attribute of God you're going to have a lopsided view. God you're going to have a God that is all one attribute and none of the rest. It's it's important to see God as he presents himself so yes God is love but he's also righteous he's also a judge he's also the god of vengeance upon upon his enemies and so God has many different things and so anytime you take one of his attributes and focus only on that you're going to have a a wrong view of God and so some people do it in the opposite way the only focus on God's wrath and so they have a God who they only think is mean and nasty the and these people usually become very critical because they see God is critical. They see God as someone who's just mean and so it's important to study the entire Bible and learn all the attributes of God and not place one over the other not placed the one you like the best in the forefront of all the other attributes tributes of God and so a lot of people do that and it seems right away that that's what this man is doing and so Let's see what happens. There is some kind of judgment that's going to happen and you have to have a good heart is to said pure heart cleaner. Don't lie by then commander if that's the case let's have a clean heart live good to watch. People don't grudge somebody for their own own. That's not yours. You know you work hard. You try to make it in the in some good formal for his every no-man's perfect and it's true knew that when he at manifest as some people say the Lord has manifest themselves into Mary's womb become the flesh on the bone and you walk art and he said No. That's why maybe at said life. I give them far. They don't know what the I've done so he says it's not easy being a human. He knew we weren't perfect. Nobody's perfect so let me let me ask you this my friend so you said that the way that you pass the judgment is by being being being good order being righteous being pure how are you how are you doing with that. Is your heart clean so often people will bring up the fact that you need to be good in order to get to heaven. They'll mention the ten commandments. Once in awhile and that's great for me because my goal in part of the conversation is to get a person to look at the Ten Commandments. It's so when someone brings it up on their own. It's a very easy segway to say Okay Ten Commandments. Let's look at him. How are you doing with that? Is Your heart clean. There's a way you can you can know you mentioned the Ten Commandments K.. By looking at the Ten Commandments. We can see where we're at before a holy God so let me ask you this. Would you consider yourself to be a good person. I think so I think so too 'cause allied on my heart and I because I'm a smoker a drinker. That's the things under that people do even though a lot of Christians tell you that they're separating nufemme dot. Org lied. I mean come on you drive a car window. There was no history back. Today's wasn't driving. Your car. Delight took it took a ride from a donkey to to to stable. That's true no we are getting more comfortably comfortably in Newark. I don't know what the car has to do with his sin but He is saying people say you shouldn't smoke pot. And he's got to join in his hand and he's basically saying it's not really that bad now. Another thing he said was as far as smoking and drinking goes. That's just things on the earth that people do not sin. That's just stuff that people do. Well all sin is stuff people do. They're either doing wing something by breaking God's law or they're thinking something and breaking God's law that way but also Senate stuff that people do mine kind is making so how much little stuff far US human being which they got the knowledge an inspiration from God's worse but they're making it so much you know a checked into human being that it's not easy for you to see those stuff won't do them. You know something that up but you got a lot of people that don't smoke orange and even though you got a lot of Christian they were allowed to save your life is not Senate but yet still you would allow to save your life so no one is that that it does leaves back to that point right here so. I think that there are a lot of Christians that say things that don't make sense but we don't have to worry about what all the Christians say we need to worry about what the Lord says right and by looking at the Ten Commandments. We can kind of see for ourselves. What we're doing slum? Let me ask you this. How many lies do you think you've told? In your whole life listen mcgarity ricotta cheese. Fuel is okay now just for the record. I have no idea what he just said but I did hear the word lies so I'm just going to keep listening and see where this goes lies. Let me tell is not the simple allies overdose forget to excite it rise up to see a midlife are getting me with problems that I would think that would take myself in any problem onto our so. Have you ever ever told lies that you weren't telling to save your life. You just told them off problem or be or because you wanted to get your way with some. I've been I. I've been incarcerated incarcerated before an ad ally to make up a story does not to put other people in problem dot was not snitching. Sure so what do you call someone who tells live who does does lies a liar. You're liar have you ever stole something even even something small a pencil when I was a kid Lighter you know but I I'm not GonNa see me break break into somebody's house and go in there but stealing pens from me weak we can we can. We can still without breaking into someone's house right. So what do you call someone who steals things. Your teeth ever use God's name in vain use God's name as a cuss word no cost or to express discuss or anger like you use when you're in trouble US Gods God's name in a in a bad way a lot of people do but not I personally not I add got angry at one point when I never did that. I just got ignorant I. I was talking to Muslims asking. God Why does that happen to me in blind and you know and undenied relaxed Beg For forgiveness which I think he did you know but you have news. God's name in vain that's called blasphemy right. It's taken the name of the Creator and dragging it through the dirt. Define that for me more. Give me an example. So using God's name in vain would be to use God's name like inappropriate way. Maybe say Jesus Christ but you say it in in a way where you're angry. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's that that not only me. I think that a lot of people orna before about yeah. That's true. Yeah okay so that's called blasphemy. So he's starting to squirm a little bit. He started not enjoy the so much. So I'm going to thank him. I'm GONNA thanks income for bearing with me and being patient you know and I understand that it is a easy or fun thing to be confronted with your sin. So I'm going to be as gracious as I can through the whole process that thanks for doing this interview. So have you ever Looked upon a woman with lust. Yeah I think that That's something that even if a married man he married for twenty years you can get an email looks if you think it's even wrong but you're not doing the action you know that's natural for you to see something and think about but not doing it so if you think about it wrong then we are on well. Jesus Christ himself he actually said you know you're not supposed supposed to commit adultery. But I say to you if you look at a woman with less you're committing adultery in your heart see. That's God's standard are our standards are very low but but God standards are very high k.. So if we've looked at a woman with less as far as God's concern we've committed adultery in our heart and then last question. Have you ever hated someone. We've been really angry at someone I've been angry at someone but hatred is not something I keep in my heart. I I personally think that you gotta you leave that part to God. You Know I. I'm not saying our dislike you but not to a point where I hate you eight you you know because you got some certain people you gonNA agree with or whatever but I don't really Aliki Ages in my I'll to let go you know that's good but I won't forget already happened do not. This is true so but you have been angry with someone. Jesus said you know you're not supposed to commit murder but I say to you if you've been angry with your brother you've committed murder already in your heart again. God standards are a lot higher than us. He looks at the heart. He knows. Those are our thoughts. You got murdered your heart murdering your heart. Yeah absolutely so then. You've got another thing about it so much. You know so much Ado n Norman is perfect. That's true fate we all. I think that this is something that people live and feed off the Lard. The fate that we have in him. 'cause I got faith not not because I'm not aggressively. So he's got faith and he's basically saying well as long as you have faith that's what matters and that's a common thought people. We'll say things like well as long as you believe in something and that something works for you. Then that's what matters or maybe there's a thought as long as I believe in in God in some form than God's going to be okay with me because I believe in him now what they're not realizing that if they believe in God auden some form and it's not the god of the scriptures then they're believing in an idol and idolatry is a sin so a lot of people just kind of thing. Yeah well as long as you got faith. That's what matters when in actuality you can have your faith in the wrong thing do you. Do you think that it's important. To have your faith in the right thing or the white right. One for instance. If I had my faith in a police officer that he was GonNa to help me but that police officer turned out to be corrupt mankind if I had my faith in in anything if I had my faith in this chair right here but the chair was old and broke when I sat on it my faith might might be real but it might be placed in the wrong thing. So it's it's important for us to make sure our faith is is breath so let me ask you this my friend. You've been very honest with me and I and I thank you. You've you've committed many sins just like me right. Nobody's perfect like you said said if you're creator was to judge you today if you were. How old are you joining? Three twenty three. If you happen to get hit by a car or or or somehow die beef today before I almost almost out of time so I have to be very grateful absolutely but if you were to find yourself dying today and you stood before your Creator. He was to judge you and he saw you as a liar and a thief and a blasphemer a murderer heart and adulterer heart do. Do you think he would see you as someone who is innocent or someone who is guilty of breaking his law. I would think you would sell me as somebody loss as what I think in my head because Dan I think I'm lost from the truth as a lot lot of people there. I always ask God for forgiveness that if today if he comes hours in around the nomination I wasn't I was lost and confused all cutting tradition You know confusion. That's going on with the Bible and in the world and not only say because you got so many hundred different uneven nation worshiping the Lord so I think I know I'm GonNa do not thing I know so okay now. This is awesome awesome. This guy just admitted that he thinks he's lost and so even though at the beginning of the conversation he saying well. Maybe it's reincarnation nation maybe God's going to judge me but he's not really going to judge me harshly now the real issue with him coming out he saying I'm lost now in a minute. We're GONNA see that. He's kind of using his loss nervous as an excuse possibly to be lost to basically say I'm lost and because I'm lost God's GonNa be okay with me because he knows I don't know everything kind of thing and I and I'm going to deal with that but but I just love the fact that this guy just admitted that he's lost. You know what my friend. That's actually a very good place to be because you're humble about it you admit that you don't know everything you admit that that you could be wrong and I think it's very important for us to understand that God is bigger than us. He knows more than us. And I really appreciate the fact that you would admit that that you call yourself lost and I think that's a great description of what you've just said so so if God was to judge you based on his law he would find you guilty right he would find you guilty of being a liar and a murderer and a thief and all these things well. I'm yeah I'M GONNA I'm GonNA disagree with you. Know I think all right if those are the truthful ways to go in heaven and yes well. Here's the thing that is. That's God's law so according to his law God will judge all sin now. I'm not now. This isn't the end of the story K.. But but if this was the only thing that got it ever done with this if got it only given his law you haven't kept the law. I haven't kept a law and because of that. No Man no woman can get to heaven simply by keeping God's law because all of us have sinned all of us fall short the glory of God in you know no absolutely barnes so yeah. This guy's definitely been to church at some point. The fact that he said he was born in sin. I mean that's Romans five nineteen for as through the one man's disobedience meaning atom the many were made sinners the Bible says we were made sinners. And it all goes back back to Adam's disobedience so this guy actually knows more than most people I talked to you in order for you to live the right way. I think you gotTa be light job due to the cause in the Bible Attila about this job. That got us The Creator took away his cattles. His wife he was being sued right. Everybody was that blaspheme against a lot and was like no and then got repaid him in a lot of ways that you could never imagine so I think that that's one of these humbled absolutely. It's good for us to be humble. Let me let me ask you this. Does it concern you at all that if you were to die today and stand before God any was to judge did you. You would be guilty of committing all these sins and that and that you would end up in Hell if God was to judge based on that does that concern you at all it it. It does to be honest because nobody wants to go to add but then in the eyes of being a human being autozone fully that if I personally think that God has a hard of you know something good in pure and you can look into you in your life and seeing that you did wanted to try. But you'll be lost and mankind. Mankind unkind as ruling so much. By God's were bringing so many stuff demonic stuff you've got the devil worshippers out there in influencing these stuff. It's hard for you as a human being to live the pure heart because even the Christian a lot of them to have a pure heart not. I'm not I'm just being honest goes to live that way. It's very hard in the world right now. We live. Well God does see our heart and that's the problem. He knows better than all of us. How sinful we are? Let me ask you this. Is this a gun just cigarette cigarette your smoking gun. Okay now is that. Is that legal here in Jamaica illegally as been decriminalized meaning that you can be caught with as as long as they're less than two zero K but it's over you can be charged you can be arrested are still ticketed for it. So it's not really fair legalize but decriminalized you still got laws and regulations to it. But you know what one of the one of the things the Bible says it is that we're to obey the laws of the land. Were to be it could citizens and follow the law of the land or actually put in place by by government but the government is long as as long as the government is not sending against God. They're doing the right thing against God. My friend. The government the government the government is definitely corrupt. Robbed in many places. I'm I'm not gonNA argue with you there. Let me ask you this my friend. Does it concern you that if you were to today today and be judged by God that that you would end up in hell yeah. Of course I think that that has If you if you do believe in God you gotTa believe in have ended up with two. That's it's just simple logic and it bypasses so many people. If you believe in God then you gotTa believe the devil. Why because the information about God odd that we believe comes from the same place as the information about the devil will does ask God for forgiveness even going to send me to hell? That's that's what after dealing with. I didn't want to do it but then God known my heart. You know I'm GonNa Stick to what I'm saying I'm at let me let me tell you this so it's good to ask for forgiveness but that's not enough your sin has to be paid for. You know that when you go to jail you. There's there's a price that needs to be pay. You get sentenced a certain amount of time or a certain thing you have to do and your your your sentence needs to be paid. Do you know what God did many years ago where he paid the fine for your sentence in other words when you sinned against God when you broke the Ten Commandments. You broke God's law. Do you know what God did a long time ago that he would pay the price for your sin when he sacrifice his own son. Absolutely so think of it like this. You God's law. Jesus paid the fine. Jesus Christ was God in Human Flesh. She came to this world. He lived a perfect life. He accomplished all right to snus and then he gave his life on the Cross for sin he was paying the price for sin but not for his own sin he was he had no sin. And the promise of the Bible is if you turned from your sin and that begins in your mind that begins with like a humility like job instead of wanting to do things your way you you throw away your pride and humility. You choose to follow. Jesus Jesus Christ when you turned from your sin and put your faith in Jesus Christ God will save you from the punishment you deserve. That's what's called being born again right now like you said you had you had that mine. I mean three barn absolutely so so so you know a lot of the Bible I can tell maybe you went to church. You do okay so you have some information inside inside of your mind and it's good information. What you need to do is apply that information you know about Jesus Christ but you need to know Jesus Christ in other words you need to value need to him and the way you do it is by repenting turning turning from your sin and put your faith in Jesus Christ putting your faith in the fact that he really did die on the cross and he rose from the dead and when he did that he he he defeated death but he also paid the price for your sin? See Our problem. Is that when we were judged by. God we're not GonNa have enough righteousness to enter into the presence of a holy God but when we put our faith in Jesus Christ in in effect we're putting our faith in his righteousness and not in our own basically admitting God the father I don't have enough righteousness but I'm GONNA put my faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for me on the Cross. And so that's why God commands Allman Allman everywhere to repent and. That's the way that a person gets right with God by trying to be good or not by trying to make up for all the bad things you did but right by accepting what Jesus Christ did on the Cross as a free gift from God turned from your sin. Put Your faith in Jesus Christ and you'll be saved saved from the punishment you deserve. You do that by faith and once you're born again God changes your heart. He begins to give to to change your desires. And you go from someone who's been following after the world following after yourself and you begin to be a Christian someone who is a Christ follower someone who follows after Christ what do you what do you think about that. What do you think about that so explaining things to people if I've talked for a while I want to know their thoughts? I want to know what author thinking because whatever they're thinking that's going to determine where I go from here obviously. This guy is heard the Bible. I want him to understand is clear as possible. Well how this can apply to him. So that's why I want to know. What is he thinking? Well that's that's not Something bad 'cause that's actually something great to be a father of Christ yes I would understand only if you understand. Most of what you're doing you know online. Me That is that is that would be a different case for the wanting wanting to yes. I do a Lotta Times I do say you know I want to get closer and closer. You know and I don't know as you said the world wouldn't do win in living for the world and maybe for yourself I would say. Maybe that's the situation. I am right now until I learn. Every every day I learn I try to learn something new to draw myself closer because as I say yes I do believe they asked to be a creator for this earth as to you know anybody who doesn't believe that they're stupid now. One thing that you keep saying you keep saying that your loss and I agree with you. There was a man in the Bible when he met. Jesus Christ he said I once was lost and now I'm found found so my prayer for you is that we you would turn to him. Not only with the head. Knowledge modeling with a a knowledge of the information but with a heartfelt faith in Jesus Christ wanting to know about him but when you turned from your sin and put your faith in Jesus Christ God will give you a new heart. You'll be born again. Dan In once the Holy Spirit comes to reside in you. He'll give you the power to do what's right see. It seems to me like you know what's right. You know right and wrong. You claim to be lost but at the same time you understand much of the truth knows some scripture. You understand what it means to follow. Jesus Christ I'm thankful that you're not being dishonest. You're being very real with me. And that's a good thing. I don't see you as a hypocrite but at the same time I see you with someone who knows the truth breath at least a little bit and I would pray that I would pray that you would accept the truth at least a little bit after that. I know at least what I think is the truth. You know because I always say to every Christian out there whatever jail the witness whatever. You'll be out there whatever you'll be as long as you're an individual when when he comes to God not for vacuum but you have faith a lot of faith that the believe you got in your heart again tell you it through but for a fact that nobody has been Okay so he definitely does not clearly understand the gospel message. At least the part of it where or Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by me and that's an important part and the reason I know that because he basically just said well whatever you are if you're a Christian Christian if you're a Jehovah's witness you just need to believe when according to the Bible a Jehovah's Witness since they do not worship the true and living God since they they have a false version of Jesus Christ. They believe he's actually Michael. The Archangel in disguise and a bunch of other heresies a Jehovah's Witness is not a Christian Christian and the fact that they go after Christians to try to convert. Christians shows that they understand the difference between Christians and Jehovah's was witnesses as well. We do hall have faith that that's true but again the faith that you have is you've admitted you don't know if it's real you consider yourself lost ost so I would challenge you to allow yourself to be to be found to be found. This guy is not allowing himself to be found in other words. He's he's suppressing the truth all throughout this conversation he he. He understands a lot of the truth. But he's suppressing he staying away from it. I I think it's just because he likes to smoke pot and he likes to live his lifestyle. The way is and that's actually gonNA come out in a minute. I'm on God's plan to eliminate implant to the seminar put outweigh Baci Mass Ave in my not one point said no because it'd be son newly. Listen I mean I think that's an my head. I'm glad I look at me. What we have been a big known for me? I mean of it too much now my thinking about it. I have no idea what he just said. Do you have to be good in the bud. The good one artists coming ahead for Attila right and they are basically see runabout. Take no do it do it. I got one say no. Do not do it so I always try my best to follow the good liquefies in my head. I'm not trying to follow the ban. Okay I just say you got to talking to you in your mind. Yeah that's done obvious. Tried to follow the good one but yet still sometimes still being drawn by following and what the Bible actually has a name for that. It's called your conscience. God has given every man a conscience. So even if you don't even if you don't know the Bible you still know it's wrong to lie. It's wrong to steal. It's wrong to everybody. Got Feeling inside where you're GonNa kill somebody you know. It's wrong from our tender age. You can tell you can tell your kid not to do that and she understands. Are you understand. You know that it's wrong right. We've all been given a conscious even certain the influences that you got into entertainment business they tell you that. Jay Z sold. But yet still you are to watch choosing to follow Wendy's speed Leonardo one that they're going to be on. Don't push true. The influential like they got blaming yourself for being influenced by them. That's an obvious that it'd be so as I say even though you see me I smoke Blah Blah Blah. I'm a I think personally that God would look at me and you know maybe give me an acceptance opt into heaven. I'm just saying that. Maybe the big maybe situation to the height avenue you know. Let me let me clarify that. So God you know I agree. God probably doesn't care about your clothes you know we. We shouldn't look at the outward appearance but again God does know your heart and that's the problem because all of us all of us have sent in the Bible actually says it. Gods is too pure to look upon evil. There will be no sin in the presence of of the Creator. And that's why it's so important that that we received the righteousness of Christ God's God's not punk he's not GonNa let people slide. That's why we need a savior. And that's why it's so important to repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ so my encouragement would to you. You know you talk about people following bad examples. I would I I would encourage you to follow the best example. There's ever been in this world. And that's Jesus Christ gotten human flesh died on the cross rose from the dead. If you put your faith in him turned from your sin he will grant you the gift of Eternal Life K.. On which on which we do plan to do everything takes time in life. You know as you said Mike in die. Ah I walk the streets not knowing what you know. Everything takes you understanding. Get quicker to grasp that opportunity before earns out. You know hopefully fleet for me yet. That would happen for me. You know so. Let me ask you this what. What is keeping you from doing from doing that because you just said you don't know when when your time's going to run run out? The the fact of the matter is all all of us could die tomorrow. I personally you can tell you why let me put it. Let me put it this way. I'm just not radio it I don I sometimes. Maybe that's true. Maybe I'm not. I'm not sure but I I can't give you a president per maybe the guy. I'm not ready to give it opposite knowingly if I do it and after small I'm not there. It is the gun show. I know what I'm doing is wrong but I'm not ready to give up my. We'd he'd be honest. I appreciate that all right so this is interesting. We've talked a lot. He basically is saying you're right. I need to do this someday. I just need time. The Sky understands right or wrong. He understands that he needs Christ but he just isn't ready to do that right now. Basically I'm about to get very serious with this person because what they're doing is they're saying well someday I'll deal with that but what they don't understand standards it someday may never come. No one is guaranteed another minute another second of life. We don't know when deaths going to happen and so I'm about to to get very real with this guy and just put that fact right in front of him. Let me leave you with this question. Maybe you can think about it. You know as we go. Oh maybe as you're laying in bed tonight what sin is it that so important to you that it's worth spending eternity in hell over. What could it possibly be? What are you having that? It's so valuable to you that it's worth doing for a little while the short vapor of the life you have that it's that it's so valuable that you're willing to throw all of eternity away so just think about that question and again the promise of the Bible's that God will save Save. You turned from your sin. Put Your faith in. Jesus Christ I can give you a lot of answers for that but real and I'm not sure about it yet what I'm going to give you one for the thing. Mankind has done the desert as messed it up all right so immediately he doesn't WanNa think about that Let's talk about mankind because even money with money money money can physically take you up and bring it to the doctor as somebody has to do that but yet still money is so important within a lot of people. I personally think that if you had is not it's it's not money because money can't physically meet the closer I got our money can't physically meet my that's true. What if everybody body came together and shared? Not If you know to build a plane you teach me I teach Lecarr Blah Blah Blah but money. Money has a lot to do with all of these. That's going on the luxury that their bill. Everybody wants to be comfortable bringing back the days where you had only wear cloth around new. Are you cook outside. You live near the temple and the big fancy houses. Then it'd be maybe a better word because then you will have people being so greedy because Greece a lot to do with these people into something else so I guess yes if we all had loincloths and we lived in huts then no one would be greedy anymore and that goes directly against the book of Genesis. When all these people who lived very simple lives kill each other and hated shot? Did all the sinful stuff so yeah the myth that if everything was simple then everyone's heart would be obscure. It's definitely easy for us to look around at the world and see all the problems but again my friend I would encourage you to look in look inside yourself see the main problem there which be which is sin. I do I do know I've got some problems. You know. Everybody got problems as I say I. Maybe maybe I'm just being honest. I don't think I'm ready to give up the life that I'm living just because life that mankind has impacted on us. If you understand what I mean I I understand I and I appreciate that. I don't think you should. You should do anything that you're not wholeheartedly ready to do. But again my friend I'd I hope that I I onto it for me. I need a lot more answers to you. Know not just you know but everything takes style. Everything takes time and and I hope that God awed grants you the gift of time. I hope that got actually allows you to cling to him so again turned from your sin. Put Your faith in Jesus this Christ and you'll be saved from the punishment you deserve. Thanks so much for talking to my friend. It's been a pleasure. Yom On respect. All right that was Jamaica man and Really enjoyed that conversation really Nice Guy He gave me a little fist bump at the end there when he said respect you know when you tell the truth to someone in a gracious way and you listen to them and your patient with them and you address to the best of your ability. Whatever issues come ma in a biblical fashion respect is what you get so managed to get through that one without getting high and I'm thankful and and my clothes did smell pretty bad the end of the whole thing. It was okay because we got through a Gospel conversation. And you go at the end of it. I do you remember my sweater. Smell pretty bad and I had to leave it outside all night and it stunk like weed and But you know conversation station went well and he understands what needs to do to get right with God and pray that he does all right. If you enjoy this podcast I ask that you would please go over to I tunes and give it a review. This is the best way for it to be seen by other people. If you have questions or suggestions or just want to give any input you can reach me at Eddie. Roman DOT COM. Thanks for listening and I'll see you next time. As we wind our way down the Romans road thanks for listening to Romans. It's Rhode if you WANNA learn how to evangelize check out my book search and rescue available at any Roman dot com. I'm a website. You'll also find videos and other things to encourage you to preach the Gospel to your friends and family. That's any Roman dot com. See you next time.
141. Commonwealth voices in Kingston, Jamaica
"Visit men had found a express. Train is grand I'm John Lynch. The year is two thousand twenty eighty and skylines. The symmetric focused actually not the first time that's ally. This isn't going to be an skylines tour as I recall this lunchtime on Friday two January. Sorry I've been back in the office day and a half after Christmas. It's already shaping up to be a pretty busy go lay leadership contest. Liberal Democrat leadership contest tests up teen merit elections this spring and looming threat of war with Iran. So possibly by the time you sit to them to listen to this movie too late human civilization. Anyway the upshot of all this is having a time to to record appropriate episode of Skylines We've got a couple in the pipeline. Renew a new series back on slightly which I go for walks around town with our candidates to be London now. I've already been out with the green candidate Sean Berry Various Liberal Democrats Reform Benita on trying to pin down the others. But we're holding. We're holding off on that until we've got further along with that series so so this week it's one of our occasional ah guest episodes in which we run something from another podcast by friends by friend of the podcast occasion. It's IT's Roy Brown. Who many many of you would have heard before? And who was founding producer. Who runs a number of podcast? That will be an interesting. I'm sure one of which is map corner which which which. We ran an episode from last summer. This is actually from a different series heated Commonwealth voices. Amd It's a story about how the city of Kingston Jamaica is fighting pollution Which is very very symmetric topic? This is an opportunity to kind of get to a part of the world. We don't talk about very very often. Amdo said to kind of give me give me a playoff so anyway the rest of this should just be hearing KOMO forces initiative check out the rest of the series and fully. Roy Sells whose at Roy unto. I'll be back in a week or two with some good old fashioned skylines sees him. The PODCAST is Roy. Fueled Brown production others. The coke is a podcast about citizens coming together to participate in democracy and insurance the institutions nations that sheep. Welcome to come voice his. I'm Ripley Brown. I'll be host and guide in the series featuring stories from across the Commonwealth the come with covers twenty percent of the world's land area and six continents with an estimated population of two point. Four billion people that's collected a third of the world's population each with their own food. Unique voice it's Tuesday morning in Kingston Jamaica. Uh It's six thirty. Am I'm Suzanne Stanley the CEO of the Jamaican Farming Trust. You're yeah tuned to adjourn ninety four Jamaican radio invite you now. St Joan distraught update twenty eight degrees Celsius. So Suzanne was the weather like in Kingston Jamaica today. Seven overcast today actually the second marine and U The C. E. O. of Jamaica Environment. Trust tell us a little bit about the organization. How big is it? And what does let me isn't it. So we are a non-government environmental organization and we were started in one thousand nine hundred one by my predecessor. Holly and I took oversee is January this year. I'm relatively new so so leadership in the organization we have people on staff I'd say about because sometimes we because we have our relationships with some former staff members. I'm still kind of operates at a traffic those from time to time. So a lot of people don't realize how small jets is featured in a lot of the time we have his would relationship with Jimmy often unto us and ask us for our our opinion or position on embarrass environmental math up. And he said it's a non governmental organization. Is there a Jamaican governmental. The department. That you liaise with work with or is this something that you compete contracted out of government services. No actually. There is a state agency with responsibility for the army the National Environment and Planning Agency. So why is the state agency. But they have annual function so they are kind of amalgamation commission off of what was once called the Natural Resources Conservation Authority and the tone at Contra. Planning Authority kind of joined together to create One agencies which in itself causes issues beating couple to an agency that not only responsible for our environmental protection on conservation. This John Copland with an agency that is charged with approving planning and Development Army. So you can see where there is some that arises arises we have been labelled as kind of a watchdog for Nicole and for you know agencies as it relates to environmental decision. If you to help keep and hold the government to account essentially fire that started yesterday at the Riverton city landfill on Spanish town. Road in Kingston is still raging at this hour if supported the blaze has worsened due to heavy losses of winds fanning across the area. So riverton is being persistent problem in Jamaica and and you decided that something needed to be done. Why did you decide to apply for a grant by the Commonwealth Foundation saw? Someone told us about the that there was a call for proposals from the Commonwealth Foundation. We were aware of the organization we hadn't actually ever applied for a grant from the Commonwealth Foundation before but when we looked at the kind of themes that they were interested in funding the kinds of projects that they were interested in funding especially the whole aspect aspect of citizens voices and promoting you know Community led projects and working with local communities is on various issues You know of course. mean Ariza focus our environmental education and Advocacy Bushido the Commonwealth Foundation. Just seemed to be a really really good fit for what we wanted to do versus what their interests were thick smoke rising from the Riverton city landfill for a second day. In a row the Jamaica Fire Brigade Jamaica Defence Force the Office of Disaster Preparedness and Emergency Management and deprive contract as I said to have been engaged at different levels trying to contain the fire. The problem of the burning of things I rubber tires and various various other waste issues was quite severe and it got a lot of national press in Jamaica could even sell some the extent of some immediate health issues that people people in Rivets and actually experienced actually became hot topic during our delivery of the project. After six days the fire the Riverton dump has been contained by officials are local agency the Jamaica Environmental Trust jet says there's a lot to be answered for the Jamaica Environment Trophies deeply alarmed at the state of affairs concerning to rip us on so it should not be that every year the country country has been million of the types of bio this morning during devotion the children's started coughing. It was really live very bad. We couldn't even see we have a number of children in here who are asthmatic. Ourself from some bronchial problem there were are just falling down. We didn't even finish devotion to make them go back in the classroom. Got Even worse and we decided okay we would send them home on because they were getting sick now even some of the teachers. Even though we had put on masks they were getting really really don't know communities how far close to Riverton. We ended up partnering with them onto the Garden is peaceful and love seaview gardens because it was my first stole once. There's a burning Riverton. We actually feel the effect of its when the small firm revoked over. The curtain idea hosts host black person's completed they have asthma issues and other respiratory illnesses. Some type of Canada breed especially when night com. Yana Verandah Y- a similar players. So this please is killing us. When you're eighteen minnows? Burn me sometime. It's Smith Born Taya Dead Time Coming Lake at Stoke sometimes luxury and some water are my Wrigley's onto it. Forget Miss Smith off stomach. Local ATMA swallowed Ismael. The government needs to step in and get displays clean up. There's this community that has been established around the dont our own but with this was a Highways was Don't view it that way. And the small the airplanes issues it's illegal burning off titles has become particularly in recent years and got reader towards Seventeen earn between two eighteen. I was was brought to our attention by the community. Representative was tweeting of older than Loeb. Breathe you after blowing. Does the night and having sinus providence. My knee ball has asthma. She's on an elite. Please help us. What can be done in the main shining? Commissioning jets at mentioned in the midst of netball etc.. Saw Bono's this time they've been ongoing air quantity providence in the era. So you got the grant. What did that then allow you guys to do? Immediately with with those funds the far small organization Nice unlike jets. It's difficult for us to outside of Project Honestly on me. It's difficult for us to kind of like respond to issues like beyond maybe off the off so they actually had to do was through the public education campaign. Were able to go into these communities and shoot film so filmed testimonials opole to the air quality issues. Shoes they were experiencing. We're waiting 'til to call Formula Gardens. I'm a jar adjacent. So they are not coming to darnest study right beside the reports on one man radius of adults are able to speak when residents. They were able to tell their stories of they were able to voice their concerns of essentially essentially. You don't tell Jami Dollars Fixing A. We are currently standing in carbon guidance. These are very nice community. The only problem has been for the last couple of years is the constant new stunts of the small. Just being a few miles from the city dome there is a stench that is unbearable. It makes breathing almost impossible. We've had to resort to offend. The windows ascended doors. Kept out. Sometimes you go to your bed nine o'clock and just week in the middle of the night. Coughing it is so bad that we had to invest in several air purifiers My wife has developed chronic respiratory problems have had to resort as much as doing a brain scan because their sinuses just would not get Some more stem and good no five times over ten these work we have to use realize. How long can any money continents and new in this OUGHTA condition with had two fires we've had burning of this kind of noxious gas? How quickly will you advocacy out? Quickly did the Jamaican government swing into action to address the issues that immediate reaction forces the the final department them going on extinquish something or robots is a longstanding issue. Right it's been a problem for decades. There's no will eat fix the problem. What because we were able to hang Buddhist advocacy because we're able to show these testimony get gained more public awareness around the issue? We also had the Pacific suits will review the report that came out of the National Environmental Finding Agency following the file. The we had the technical expertise. We have a volunteer. Who assisted with the project of former University of West indies lecturer environmental chemistry at A? Hi Gentleman Conduct Anthony. Greenaway assistant us in in looking at the diesel report came onto the via so we were able to review. Were able to send it into NAPA. Were able to say the these are the issues you were able to get the media talking. There were quite a few interview was not only surrounding the file and impacts on that while also Surrounding this report being released on jets review of the report and our interpretation off you know the findings and our concerns not only votes the impact the fire but just in whole estate was monitoring airports in the era. So shut down. That dump was a headline for the article. Revealing the findings from Netflix. Air Quality Report stated that residents in the surrounding areas are being exposed by harmful pollutants. Let's have a chat with Suzanne standing addict. Who is chief executive officer? You make an environment trust good morning so that will be talking about. This riverton dumped far far. Whenever I can remember your suggested? It shouldn't be there. It should be moved moving to where would sorry. We've been talking about this for years. There seems to be no movement in that direction. If it's not moved what's the next move and if you're not gonNA move it when we're looking at the report that was released by the last week and the results of the reports. Were not really very surprising. There was a huge fire at the Dome Books and it negatively impacted air quality but what was concerning. was that in the report that we saw where there are already wanted to issues in the aerial air. That already suffering from poor air following an incident ninety-six actually making one bad situation much worth of so. Let's talk about this study. Marked increases in toxic gases forty six pollutants were detected from the analysis conducted. was that surprising to you. A report that said had some some of those component two and a half times what it should be the benzene. It was frosty times. The annual levels have been set after and this this is really concerning because long exposure to these kind of things can cause cancer. So you say they've been talking about this for years. Suzanne local will uh-huh actually only been needed for a long time timing so some of Jamaica's Challenges with management has never really been a priority in the country. Heavy money jog garbage all ties into where we send our garbage and even sixty percents of the cases did that is the Riverton if it's not moved. Is there anything that the residents of the surrounding residents can do. If it's not move knock apnea fire. We were going to be a house in study you know looking at some some of the impacts on the people have been the area had been hum dot fire and just on the survives on that nature on the poor air quality can era. Is this something that you could do. Independently Suzanne then or. Is it something that you'd have to wait on government to do well the health impact. It's quite an extensive expensive type of that. would be needed colluded investigates when we can try and funding to do something like that. But you know we would need the buy in from the government agents participate facilitate. Yeah right well. I hope we don't have to talk about this anytime soon again. But thank you for weighing in this morning talking about I knew I know chief. Executive Officer of the Jamaica Environment Trust Suzanne Stanley Suzanne. How long did the campaign laughed boo? And how long was the grown before as well. It's it was a two year grant him. We use the first half of the grants to conduct our research for the review that we did on the air on water quality framework the the legal framework government Aaron Quality Standards and then the second half so the second year of the grant After we launched that review that was when we did a public education Geisha campaign in the second year so the public education campaign around from up to over twenty seventy until the end of the grant which was September twenty eighteen gene so when you're talking talking about robots on for example you know robots on his side of the issue that's where your waist ends up. That's a part of the issue that you may Jimmy go see Masha. Ah found on most Jimmy. pesto think about unless there's I don't try out that's affecting Kingston. Are there some item on the news or have you been back to Riverton recently and could you give us an dates as to how the residents are doing. We went there yesterday. Actually Dan An accident are almost yoshi still chair of our board and we also paid a visit to the robots on waste disposal site yesterday. And I mean it I would say the situation has improved really In terms of air quality issues you know I the You could see like tainted twelve on the dump itself is being void trucks coming in off the garbage tipping fees. You Know Front End Ordos pushing the the the I guess it's construction material at Aden's over kind of aggregate that he used the cover so that the site is operating as it normally does like these files all wrong the the waste disposal site in the community. That's kind of oxo. It's separated from the community by a revoke gaining revolt. So don't be on one side and the communities on the other side on the other side of the roof. You can just see these defiance in the community like blast small of you know just point open air and air quality even on dump itself standing there looking in after garbage. It'll be another. Don't act activists is on the bill and I can get is a Bernie noses. Earning I mean could tolerate it also able to standing up there for maybe twenty two minutes before I was like okay I need to. I need to know you're not think there is living in this every single day every day. I'm I'm complaining about this. This poor air quality fall at twenty in two minutes to get here and this is this is every day for these communities. Are you don't find it. It's really averse. Adversary thoughts I'm in Director responsible for environmental management and conservation. Broadly in a management John Wayne Son on management's managements because Mr McKenzie obviously Riverton was had a terrible issue in the last years with fires and jets it was one of the NGOs that took that issue very much to heart and tried to give the immunity around Riverton A- voice. Could you you tell us what was the result of the community. Stakeholder meetings were organized by jet with Napa of initiative that was supported by. Why did he come on where I am? Engaged a number of community associated with industrial facility. There's been involved in advocacy religion to be fired. I've done this impact. Underline of community. Do Stakeholder meetings provide Napa with a better understanding of the impact of the Riverton is on the people. The fact in the community will were targeted by that I seem to become the brought into web shops. Not only netball other regulatory. Save me some would be the front otherwise again looking at lavish focused on hold the empowered. So Napa definitely thinks that the stakeholder meetings which dealt with the wider issue of clean air have helped to influence wins the way of which you engage with communities value in that part of regulatory responsibility. You you have. Registration requirement also have status but also coming into cones so that they're that interaction to the regulators on the actress ability so the record objects that have been in that regard because ebb also to any gender improved knowledge by committee member so after a two year campaign and grow from the cover with foundation. What were the outcomes so where we had this greater publication that look at Aaron water quality issues? More broadly that was I really fantastic outcome. You know where really propagation that we did you know I I am I can join Jamaica at least has done a review of that kind. We brought stakeholders together so we brought government officials together with community Z.. Members to air all these issues of the community members were you brought directly to government and industry stakeholders these are. These are people who are immediately being affected by these Erin water quality problems and they're able to air their grievances directly and get contact information for the industry contact attacked information for the government so that they can follow up on on these issues so that was very good. Although we can't say that the public education campaign that we did for for the clean air and water project was directly responsible for some of the announcements. That happened last year. We do think that it went a very long way to kind of Oh placed Added pressure on the government of Jamaica to do something about the air quality issues especially as it relates the rebuttal insisted on we feel very good about the campaign and the the release of that review and the kind of advocacy. That came with that from you. Know both the citizens being able to give testimonials meals has to hold. This is impacting them. This affecting their health and their environment more than eight so the end of last year. Actually it was. New Year's Eve was actually closed but there was a government of Jamaica press conference. I'm not sure if you heard what the head of the enterprise esteem who is charged with leading the divestment of the robots on dome but he came onto the podium to make an announcement and he announced that the government of Jamaica. Actually you know intense to wind down operations at Robuchon. So they're going to they're essentially going to be moving. The don't so are they. I mean he spoke to things like you know Slowly transitioning away from that site so there was an announcement last year to see. That too tacos will no longer be going to report on. They're going to be going somewhere else. But I think the intention now is to move although materials away from that site so you just find that over time less and less garbage is going to be going to. What's on and I think? The hope is that they'll eventually be able to transition. To rylands is the term he used to uh-huh hold that impacts air quality issues is that of course is me just source of air pollution in that area and it really impacts the public health and environmental communities around. You are really happy to hear that. This is the fact that this action is going to be finally take after decades that the jet has been advocating for this both under this project. And before. You don't really really great to hear that this much-needed action is is GonNa be taken so we were hoping that they're going to fast track that they they gave End of one thousand nine hundred ninety deadline we we would love to see it happen even more because of course an announcement those fixed the air quality issues. That's our experience area right. The citizens are still being impacted by poor air quality associated. Let's see did with the dumper though we want to see that hop on but it's really really good news especially to start off two thousand nineteen so we're happy AH My name is confederacy larger. And I'm the grants manager for the Commonwealth Foundation at what the Commonwealth on Dacian for seven years. Managing the grants program which Tis the one million pound grants program open to civil society organizations across the Commonwealth. So I'm imagining that you give out grants to organizations sation obviously all over the Commonwealth but you must strike up a bit of a relationship with those organizations and the people who are actually running them. So how is it working on this project Russia. It was a matter a couple of times during the duration of the project. She's very passionate about the work that she does. And that passion comes across media strongly into talk with her and it really helps you get a real good sense of how the project is progressing when you speak in person with somebody and how important those issues are and Susanna. It's really good at making really understand. How imports of the press You clear we need tighten the everybody's lead MC come together cleanup pinned on your property. Garbage quality depending pinpoint. Why don't we all got just small? Komo what will be Tabernacle Yard or get off the clean feed clean air. We want clean Cleaner we need everybody believes the cleanup. The the clear we need speed. There's no substitute for clean air. So that's it for today's podcast. But you can continue the discussion online by tweet tennis at conroe or by finding us on facebook with the same in using bats Commonwealth. You'll find links on facebook and twitter to Commonwealth insights policy briefs that explore a whole range of issues such as these explored in chartres anything for migration climate justice to women because Jason Pace as this is our first podcast the employees to go onto apple podcasts. Or podcast of your choice and go and writers a review because it helps visibility for the show and gets more people than to be aware of us so they can listen to. I'm Rick Brown and.
Folktales Week Jamaica Morning (1-8-2020)
"Good morning it's time for Chompers your morning and night tooth brushing show start brushing on the top of your mouth pick a side. Brush the inside uh-huh and chewing side of each to three. Why it's folktales week? Remember a folk tale a story that may or may not be true. The people have been telling each other for a long long time. Today story comes from Jamaica. Jamaica's warm country on an island in the middle of the sea with palm trees and beaches and the story. We're going here is about common sense. What's common sense? It's just know what you should and shouldn't do like when stove is hot. Don't touch it. That's just commonsense or when you're cold put on a sweater that's just commonsense Switzer rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth. Your tongue a brush to our story is about a nancy. A Nazi is a spider. And he's a little bit of a trickster. He's very very clever. But you know how what is if somebody has a little bit of something. Sometimes they want more. And that's how a nuncio was with common sense. He had some but he wanted all. I'm unsee figured. If he could collect all of the common sense in the world he would be the smartest spider spider around Switzer rushing to the bottom of your mouth and brush in little circles around each to a Nazi bought. If he was the smartest sky around he could get whatever he wanted he wanted money and power and he thought that if he had had all the common sense in the world then everyone would have to ask for his help. Me would charge them. Lots of money for answers switcher rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brushless molars in the back to set out on his eight legs to gather up all all the common sense. A nonce snuck around and when he found a little bit of common sense like if it's cold outside put on a sweater he put it in his pot. Finally one day a Nancy was satisfied. You had all the common sense in the world but then something occurred to him. What what if someone came along and took his pot of common sense his plan would be ruined needed? A new planned for chompers comeback tonight to find out what announce he did next. The until then chompers production of Gimblett media.
Folktales Week Jamaica Morning
"Chompers is produced by Gimblett and sponsored by crest an oral B. Good morning. It's time for chompers your morning and night tooth brushing show. Start brushing on the top of your mouth, pick, aside and brush the inside outside and chewing side of each to three. Why? It's folktales week. Remember, a folk is a story that may or may not be true. The people have been telling each other for a long long time today story comes from Jamaica. Jamaica's warm country on an island in the middle of the sea with palm trees and beaches, and the story we're going to hear is about common sense. What's common sense? It's when you just know what you should. And shouldn't do like when the stove is hot don't touch it. That's just commonsense. Or when you're cold put on a sweater? That's just common sense. Switzer rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth tongue. A brush to our story is about a Nancy a Nazi is a spider, and he's a little bit of a trickster. He's very very clever. But you know, how it is if somebody has a little bit of something sometimes they want more. And that's how a nuncio was with common sense. He had some. But he wanted it all. A Muncie figured if you could collect all of the common sense in the world. He would be the smartest spider around. Switzer brushing to the bottom of your mouth and brushing little circles around each tooth. Nazi thought. He was the smartest guy around. He could get what ever he wanted. He wanted money. And power. And he thought that if he had all the common sense in the world, then everyone would have to ask for his help. You would charge them lots of money for his answers. Switzer rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brushless molars in the back to so Nancy set out on his eight legs. To gather up all the common sense, a nonsense snuck around, and when he found a little bit of common sense. Like if it's cold outside put on a sweater. He put it in his pot. Finally one day. A Muncie was satisfied yet all the common sense in the war. But then something occurred to him what if someone came along and took his pot of common sense. His plan would be ruined. Needed a new plan. Back tonight to find out what enough he did next until then. Chompers is a production of Gimblett media. Hey champions. Have you ever wondered about what cities will be like in the future? How will cities be when you're a grownup like we'll even have cars will we have streets at all. Will there be gardens on top of all the buildings? What do you want a city to look like we wanna know? What do you imagine cities will be like in the future? Tell your grownup and have them send it to us by going to chompers dot dental. We might use it in an episode of choppers. Grownups that's chompers dot dental.
Ep. 150 Taking Stock as a Visionary Leader, with Marlene Street-Forrest
"Hey it's John Lee Dumas of the echo fire and it's the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate Caribbean entrepreneurs seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Author Speaker Speaker Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite we needed to risk capital but our experience with local financial institutions. Was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had unreal concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business business. We had our own ideas about the business and its rally. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try the Jamaica Stock Exchange so we made our called an experience. Transformation of our business conversations John Food Seal of Jamaica and T.'s And we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight seven six nine six seven three two seven one to begin your transmission showed through conversation. We want to see your company. Listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange coming up on this episode of the Entrepreneurial Neuro you know it's just in a man's job let me clarify because is available towards bill and the reason is that more men are in the financial sector but I'm not a man's John the I don't go by the rule book I lead from the heart not the head. Princess Diana greetings. Greetings greetings my peak will form a hall. Are you doing today. I am super excited Said because it is episode one fifty one hundred Fifty Years Alby entrepreneur PODCAST I'm your host Henikoff. What is porter? Today's episode is with Marlena streets forest. Marlene as being managing director The Jamaica Stock Exchange and director of both host subsidiaries under his stewardship the JC became demutualise and US denominated markets. Out of the market were launched. She she also spearheaded the registrar division of the Jamaica central depository when she served as General Manager for this subsidiary of the Jamaica Kazakh Exchange in two thousand sixteen. Marlene was conferred. With the of the order of this thing shown in the rank of commander in recognition of how her outstanding leadership in the growth of the Jamaica Stock Exchange in that same year she also receives the asphalt Global Excellence Flint awards the global impacts from Kinda for exhibits in Greece Leadership Vision Integrity and commitment to excellence so. I am super excited to have this conversation on taking stock as a visionary leader welcome mining welcome welcome welcome. Thank you for having Bien Once you favorite thing about being Jamaica on well the fact that we are often g person's probably say we're the league back really what we are. You know vetiver and we are kind of just won't be Jimmy. Yes me too me too. Same here all right. So we're going to be talking about taking stock as a visionary leader as I have said before and going to be inviting amateur. Recently in Warsaw in in recent times angle that the Jamaican population and indeed. The world has been looking at you. You know the progress that Jamaica Stock Exchange has made the way that you have made us so proud as Jamaicans and not just as Jamaica's but persons that are interested in Jamaica right. So congratulations with that. What we wanted to do now now is to have you take us back a few years? What was the teenage mind light? Well I would say produced Diaz the US. That's what came to mind just having us. I read a lot I beg yes. DADS being had a royal makes everything Read I'm big was always in that businesses. My was found at some point in time at Tim. Period was also very focused senior. I'm not gonNA leave the baking right along because you know how interesting mandates as the managing director added. How did you make the Stock Exchange? And I'm going to talk about that. But what does baking have to do with what you're doing. No and do Subic allow. Do you still like to be talkable. That okay. So I- big two years so that he had a Pinson shop he can cream because I just loved baking the finished product but movable you know making your Johnson. I don't know that because let me just say my life so I don't know that. Do you have some precision liked to see that having applying the measurements. You know what you must do this and bads essential encode well and then joined once you put together. The other thing is that is just one to mix ingredients soon so I actually liked speaking before each show from the standpoint that I had this call k. concrete and just we both storm out the work of that story. You Know Wow interesting. I'm sure you know my community is going to be so intrigued to hear about that. No you're talking about the beginning on precision. Then clearly I can align that to the mandate that you know how you know as director of the Jamaica Stock Exchange on no awesome here at boats in A. What does that entail? What does it mean for you that? Mandates is to expand the exchange to bring consumer technology exchange ensure that people seen exchange as a vehicle to get chopping so NBC's antle elaborate on this trendy. The can create wealth utilize exchange as a broad mandate. But one. That's surreally ends in those of Jamaica. That's what's being person and the growth of Jamaica and clearly you really have a heart for Jamaica and Jimmy Johns No. I am one of them. That will stay. You am so super. Inspired by you. As a woman as a Jamaican on but particularly as a Jamaican woman. You really inspire me and in what I see from the outside is that you need with such grace and cow. I know that it's not not easy like it doesn't matter how easily it seem. I know he cannot be easy. So you inspire. So many Jimmy Carter Jimmy woman. Where does your inspiration come? TRAUM coasts from mass family arena. Do Win Benin's means they're saying to me you can can do it because if we have to be very true for it is not always easy and really helps to have those persons that seek. Did you hear even at the point where you don't. That's you know just pushed ahead of this fortune. New Can do the ideas that you feel distancing missing with your family and friends and when we say friends. We mean friends because their friends that was takes. No the other thing is that I'm also very religious. Somatic inspirational also comes from God Ryan Right. I go to that would book and get inspiration. Sean as to what to do oh to solve some problems flims and can be very difficult to stick to answer. When you free lessons you want to give up? This is no on the other hand. Matinees regional also Team on the exchange. Always hear me talk about the team. That's I advocate. Yeah I know that you'll know that they are good. They love what they are doing. They are in the midst on and bing work is not a bowl salary though that cones you know the deep Louisiana Committee into the same mission and vision. That's well into that apple. You know joy inspiration from the good book which I also subscribed to and you know it needs man guides. May you talk about well. You know when a difficult times. Call My love to frosted touch on that because I don't want any of my conversations to see. Oh yeah on easy Nina. You're always smiling. Eileen and nothing goes wrong I want you to share an instant with us when perhaps you just thought this is and how did you get through that. So so is the boat current sample when we launch the junior matches. You know it takes time Mattie to mature to get people onboard but I've gotten to know was companies on board than we were told that a major incentive incentive as you know the corporate tax would be taken from this map and it's really just cranked in for gene loss and the one day own team Look just continue to push. Continue to lobby rb but you know what happened. We got we had so many persons were is quieter that is Dan did on the junior in your market potential and also what boarded scene and just continued to assist me to coach Goodness such facility would be shot down so to speak and so that was clearly this porridge that you know really. No Man is an island omen standalone so engines in. What you said is the fact that the support that you know that rally behind you and a testament of the work that you've you've already done and the benefits of those who were beneficiaries to the Juna Stock Exchange so yes I commend? You commend you for sticking it out and I know that so. Many prices are benefiting from that. Just recently let me allude to it and then you can perhaps speaker little twitter as well is the Stock Exchange just not gonNA undeniable that and why you saw the need to push through that projects. The Jamaica Social Stock Exchange isn't subsidiary subsidized the Jamaica Stock Exchange and it is really looking at the social spending on the environment no social is so important uh-huh to ensure the goes eve not the chapter market because it's person's needs if crying exist these are all social. Aw and so if you can work on the social issues of poverty the issue of unattached the disabled community community imports in order to ensure word. That's the society itself. These are just the society thank goal and as a result of that is not marketing role as a result of than Jamaica will so we have to look on all estates completing some pleasing the ecosystem they financial resources Own of those are important. So we felt that was important to launch social Nacre many awful Are Involved in social enterprise so in the event that we we get that right to we're also encouraging more women. Enjoy all my system office so that it was necessary right. You know unnecessary. It wasn't a big proponent of using social elements and infrastructure to fix. What is really really the problem that we have in our country? Because I believe that once we how those elements right then of course as you said earlier is that it impacts the capital market as well so get that rights and you know you're having their competes ecosystem the morning on the surface of it. You seem to be in a man's world right doing their minds job. What's your team combat? And it's in a man's job so let me clarify signed it goes is the towards bill unseen. CBS is that more men are in. The national. Sanctum Demands John. I mean Nigel. The response very very good answer and I know this airing too many women who we've been listening to this podcast episode. You also talked about your team Orlea. I wanted to get a sense from you. How do you retain stock up? You need issue because I know leadership is hard I lead in a very different capacity. I'M GONNA be straight with you. I'm I am not the most patient. I can be very direct and I have a lot of flaws. Let me just put it out there but I also have an excellent leadership skills but it's a very difficult thing to be Salida because all of those points that you persons never truly understand all the things that you take into consideration when you make a decision what you have to make this. John was the best resource that you have at the time. The best information that you have the time to stop personally your leadership and get the buying from the team and other external external parties. You know I am not going to either. Sugar coated win the series right. Because you know I'm just GonNa talk about me. I engage people. I really tried to engage you because if you don't have those on board on the stunning what Bijon Bijon is what the mission is Benny. You WanNa results that you need so first and foremost ensure that's you understand sunny and he'll buy into it. Afterwards Whitney go I really am not managing anyone. Then know what they're we're supposed to do and your team. You have a responsibility hall so you are going to get both doc those you understand then you inspect really. He was disturbed because everyone around me know about this. New inspect what to expect a a Ha. Maybe simply saying is that Luke expecting this resort but also ambling instinct to seem that's is the result we go by We know what the timelines are with them. Persons Jason Feedback and on feedback that you get. You indicated that young on patient as grams pieces so but the feedback is not osh first female Redo this or can we cut some time on this to make Apple Ho does. This wasn't wasn't negative. The Stock Exchange all the time when you'll really upbeat the decision yourself. This time when is consensus. There is a time when you allow the person in the team to make that decision and do the time when you sit on wrong. There's a look here you know something I'm right on this. Trust me so you can also develop that sense of trust and analysis imports on If the team feels that they can trust you in on as I think you will. We have a team you also after legal front. You cannot see one thing an expect. You can do different expectation of you but at the same time. You're not willing to do that yourself. You are one of the team you imagined Lido. Because you're steering that ship what you are to the team and you'll get an extra kid yourself from the success of India and if people know that they are gonNa want to choose they are going to want to win at all. Costs winner is also the understanding that the failure. But we're not working to but but in the event that we re evaluate on on and there is no blame game so this is all ORLA bolts. Trust I hear a most mornings barry early one of the things that I'm pitching is leaving and constant flaws. That's into yes but I'm not deal with that but my team knows that they put in in her works. The rewards that is share why East spoke of success. And of course the successes are there for everybody to see in a named by Bloomberg as the number one stock exchange in the world and that was in two thousand eighteen and before that was a naming such naming before right in two thousand fifteen right. I want you to touch on. What's your biggest failure? And what did you learn from it. Stock Exchange we were developing a particular software and be failures. Jor Notes at the end of the day was not so we didn't fully in on the Eastern. What's what's happening is sometimes it imports? That's not only is an important that you listen what want that you are able to Pico so nuances so Sean into it shine. You got me to his three whatever we call it Brian in to restore that you hear more than what is being center is important is important also to even reflect elect on what is being said and also. Will you see that. There are creeps in requirement. Differences in one person's thousands expert. That's all come back Also so that wasn't big listed on also took so end of this question on this done properly what you are in control so one. Managing expectations expectations understanding. What you are in control of and be guided by intuition on all right so we're about to wrap up? They're just something as I want to get from you so perhaps you could tell us the one thing that you wish you knew when you begun your career. That's a go. I wish I knew the Janina while much time. We'd be on the things things that you have to do. Maybe you're baking. Make you on this social sire. Almost you have to commit to it because an inner suspect next. You'll make things as intense as you want. But I'll tell you when you get in the water to the Stock Exchange and especially because I'm year now nearly twenty years right when you get involved in it. It's almost as it because of you're an absorb and I did not know that then it would be but I didn't know what drives you is is in fact that there's so much to do and so much potential in jobs of ghosts that's because one was very absorbed uh-huh I know that pretty well as an entrepreneur or a very absorb randy's just having to take stock and you just do you know reestablish Justin Look at priorities things you know. It's not only the entrepreneurship and my Auntie. Heroes perseus yet the Socialist I must be intentional abode staying in touch and staying connected with my family because when I get in my soul and oh my gosh nobody adipose me all right my final questions you and might be performer. You know that I've been talking to the Magic Erik. Og Jamaica Stock Exchange Mardi street as far as a very a nominee Jimmy woman. Who is the amusing things inspiring Jamaicans in general and particularly no noman sons in Ireland? We've alluded to that and the alleged affair. You have supports you know to make what you do success so if you would be kind enough to name at least three or if you if you don't want to name so many people but name's Ruby with that you'd like to share that have been most important Your efforts with a powerful my daughters and then plus as a young professional must name. Come to the Rodney. You know. He was inspirational. She was always remember. Hickel it's good to have made the official or nonofficial on a very very good. Look at you and say I am going to take a chance on the special. I'M GONNA try to Compton Watts OATS into professional word as one would assisted because it was owned dish. Honor and just let university so that you know also say rich. A humphries his lunar mean amazing ones. How yes the financial sector? And you'll realize full she excelled. She has V.. Envio only be made chairman of Jimmy Custodian. Sage there's you know that if you may so goes to Earth loud saint in this financial sector was back in France. Oh that's so sweet out I did. I cannot forget man Walsum. Because she's there she's alive. She estimates so much sacrifice for children. Oh that's a beautiful wonderful way to end. Marlene I'm going to ask you this points. Just to share home eh persons. Get in touch with you. Listen to this episode. And they're inspired. WanNa reach out to you collided Jamaica Stock Exchange. You may share how they may get in touch with you. That's one and two and no we had talked about before we come on live with a you'd have have anything you'd want to share with our audience possibilities for bike evenly of some stars so if you want to share that just go right ahead and do that so I had to go. So what's your schedule as share with two courses with the SEC Campbell's no l.. These would be worked. Shots one be workshops and we would put on the world shots and again calling. We'll tell them what works of Syria. what they can choose from okay. That's the only street. I'm sure streets is a day. Yeah Yeah Yeah I can do all right go yes go ahead and share hold. They might get in touch with age. Context means several different ways. It's seven six seven zero one three one. That's my direct line. It's seven six nine zero seven three two seven one two four and my email mining. Don on-street is enforced jump stock be x dot com amazing and so again my people Pharma's you have been tuning into this episode with Marlene Street. Forest Marlene I really WanNa thank you for taking time out of your day to spend with me and my audience to share your inspiring journey and the amazing doing the missiles that you've learned and home. We can be better leaders and where we're investing in the stock market and they include no question again people for us. Thank you so much for shooting into this episode with Marlene Street forest the mandates Jamaica Stock Exchange. I look forward. What's IT GONNA being with you next week? In the meantime I have a very big announcement. Of course you've heard it before but for a one time payment of their. Here's dollars you can get access to it now in two thousand seventeen. I don't remember what I who said. The estimate entrepreneur estimate virtual conference and ex school were featured eighteen. CNN speeches true experts from four countries over four days the amazing value bombs during that exploit order online summit and so that conference I want to share the content of excited to do it. You would find the content to be very meaningful and it's great not not only because it will give me an audit sharing these episodes with you which I really have been wanting to do for a long time but because he will also give you a way to support quarter still and make it even better every who had made my show trust me it is going to sign up. You could line to become a former partner. You can click on the link in the show. Sonos podcast episode of your choice podcast up rather hr's Argos glow dot M. Sash tdy. Remember you you were born to win but to be a winner you must pants a win for personally and expect to win walk good.
Ep. 151 Business Process Outsourcing and the Entrepreneur, with Yoni Epstein
"Hey is Johnny Dumiso. v O fire and it's the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate Caribbean entrepreneurs seeking daily inspiration brought to you by author Speaker Speaker in Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite. We needed to risk capital capitals but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had a real concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for for our business. We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try Jamaica cosstalk exchange so we made a call an experience. Transformation of our business through conversations John Mahfoud seal of Jamaican fantasies and we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight seven six nine hundred seven three two seven one to begin your transformation summation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange in two thousand fourteen. We one on account. That was should've been at that time. Our transition to the next stage of growth in our business with borrowed money. Our intern rented newspaper. We sent people to the states to train and we came back to start hiring people and about six weeks after that the the client literally went dark on US stopped responding to our emails stopped. Stopped coming on calls and started to really get worried because we obviously Thomas. He took on some expense and plan to be able to start meeting our commitments and they just walked away if you deprive yourself outsourcing and your competitor is do not. You're putting yourself out of business. Lee Kuan Yew. Hi My people form. What one how are you today? Welcome it's is episode. One hundred and fifty one of the entrepreneur. PODCAST I'm your host Annika. What Kiss Porter? Today's episode as with Yanni ABC's now the Multi Award winning Yanni is a phoning chairman and CEO at Ideal Beepu. The region's largest homegrown. Beepu Beepu with its is in four countries and a large network of at home subject matter experts around among the fifty most influential collectives for the Latin American and Caribbean region yon is efforts helped to enhance the region's global positioning while establishing igby appeals diversified geographic footprints. I'm really excited because today we are going to be talking about business. Process outsourcing and the entrepreneur. When you're welcome? Thank you very much absolutely before we diving. What's your favorite thing about Jamaica Jamaica? It's diversity don't many islands in the Caribbean. How AWAM Warm set of people that are indigenous asylum carbon islands are just a big beach whereas you know Jamaica arena. Landa would oughta water. You have the mountains. The rivers have the beach. There's so much opportunities and diverse. See here so I think we're far surpass everybody. Yeah Yeah I can see in terms of diversification on still I guess we could perhaps even segue into a business process outsourcing but not had quite yet because I wanted to get a little bit into the ten year will Yanni was like. Oh Gosh so Than I was I was I had the entrepreneurial spirit because south on my brother's Another friend that you sit up road we used to go and Take all of the the golf balls from that. They've Golfer shanked into the Bush by to us Take us to make lemonade. And it would set up a table right by the golf by the golf course Golf balls on so so so that the trump era spirit from them but the mischievous side of Around from that age either because it the kid the kid was with us he decided because he was older that time he must get a bigger share any essentially to call it a money and bullied and left so we had to set up for him and let them know that even very young that we were partners. Any Kathy see for yourself. You'll forget that we ended up at salting properly. Okay so I think you're gonNA leave that to imagination right. Yeah all right. Why did you want to be when you grow up? Actually when I was a kid I wanted to be a pilot. I can fly Adalina okay. What I'm not a pilot's license by commercial plane but but I okay awesome sauce awesome so now we are going to get into I told me PUGH and You know I have watched that company Penny from you know not really very closely but from where I sit. I get to see the amazing things that you're doing and the accomplishments and you know I remember attending ending one of those on business. Process outsourcing conferences. He was the first of. Its kind that we had was having Montego Bay Jamaica Goes regret Jamaica and I could from the look of things your company pretty much dominated the whole thing. You know Just being a partner and you you are actual A very big supports all of our those within the industry as well and for those who don't really know a love to hear what is your enemy. It's a paycheck stores for. It would be peel. So you know. I tell repeal when when we speak to a prospect of plants are are differentiate is our culture cloture as Jamaican organization. You know that Culture Rings Haute a lot greater than our competitors on grown who are also global global competitors so so we we have hung are hot very heavily on our coach. bats where extremely entrepreneurial as as owner ONA OPERATES A. I'm very much involved in the business on a day to day aspects of things. You know that that goes from managing operations to developing. I've been culture as we continue to grow most of these plants that we have are also working with some of the large players globally on one of the things. They say that they don't get that white blood level of service they're not talking to the C.. Level within those companies that they operated and we none of us are perfect. We all have our issues issues with being able to talk to the top guys and girls in the team to be able to resolve unmitigated in the future as a huge differentiator took on what separates I tell from from the wrist and of course Perhaps I need to go back. I literally because Business Process outsourcing repeal has become a buzzword you know not just in Jamaica and the region and I guess globally as well but Many persons may still not know for SOMAC- macy would be a giant gun so what essentially is business. Process outsourcing business process outsourcing is where company methods it could be anywhere in the world. US Canada south. America Europe China They essentially outsource on non on core aspect of their business so far agreements sick If you're Mrs. Is Selling Hotel rooms you're you're the core core aspect of your of Your Business is to develop Patel Rooms Provide a service while guest is on property to ensure that they have a great vacation attention and they come back. You're you're non-core aspect of business are one of them is actually receiving that phone call on making that reservation dimension for the customer a nuts business process of sourcing comes into play because we are in jurisdictions are naturally cheaper than most first controls on we will provide a cost saving. But we're also able to provide a better source of service. Because our core business is might Komo hire people manage people training them motivating them ensuring that their their Meeting your requirements in in service delivery and representing presenting your brand. That's our core business. So that's his way business outsourced business. Process outsourcing actually has come. Vote all right so you talked about the fact that you know Based on where we are geographically located we are in a bit of position where more poised you know to attract businesses international business. His will clients who want to You know perhaps the benefit of cheaper labor more affordable Labor But in terms of the AH the intangibles the attitudes and the mindset hall is are people doing as it relates to business process outsourcing Jamaicans surpass surpass everywhere in the world You know we we go up against some competitors. That have offices in the Philippines have offices in Central America offices in India on and the Jamaicans always are coming out on top. And that's his. That's his because all ultras UH Jamaica A natural culture to want to provide good service that you want to build a report on to how Accent is it is neutral but our accent is very cool everybody wants to be a Jamaican right. So so when somebody calls Somebody enough Saudi to get somebody the Philippines. It's just a accommodation that just froze from start to finish. I'm gets a business. Don't whereas a Jamaica kind of people starting to talk about you saying board Daca. What shutdown frazier to want? While Bob Marley wants to know about the mind you know all of these different things and it just it bills that report. Even when you're talking to an IRA Optimum that you're trying to resolve where it was a dispel that they the roughness from the IRA coastal because of our Jimmy. At accent in because of of our our I would say are unique in our slog to be able to provide provide services to customers all right so the impression that When you're in this industry then you're being trained on accents and and perhaps the standardize accents source? How the whole do you because sometimes you start talking to you? Call a customer service REP and and you have to get to Jamaica. Who In my mind sometimes does not sound like a Jamaican? So is that encouraged you know to kind of the gentleman is standardize accents. If you will you know I think that if you look at the history of this industry in Jimmy what ruled it started in India in the in the late eighties into the early nineties and because of very thick accent they trained in men's to try to speak English to speak America And if the Filipinos when the industry transferred there again the follow that same train because the negativity that was coming onto North America was like I don't WanNa deal the I can't understand I don't want to do this. I can't chat on the son of so there have been aspects on Israeli different by plant some plant's for Su- accent neutralization. It's Scott thank you for the Jamaicans love to news right so that is naturally it. Also almost naturally comes easy for US writes Appreciate on on all those a low you know the Claire Aspect of our Komo than and some plants demanded some implant said Look I love it. And that's a differentiator for Jamaica. Because I've never heard somebody say a cast on how a Jamaican talks back have just never heard of an and no matter which carbon atoms own from whether it is by Hamas oxygen Are Antiga are treated out. Our everyone looks at the arena. ARENA JAMAICA TO BE PRODUCTS. I'M GONNA talk about clients in a big blood Saying on our people one of any has been my experience and I see it all the time that we have one of the biggest challenges with Customer service issues. How do you train your people? to mitigate against that and to mention the standard that your company says automating it comes the few things so so firstly as I mentioned at the beginning of our discussion is culture. You Know Jamaicans love to be apart from something that is going somewhere so you have to. You have to develop a culture that's is motivating them on a date day-to-day basis after a culture. Show that is also trading him. If we if we talk about the Fox that you know I would say over eighty percent are Hieaux of Jamaicans. Don't actually GonNa Johnson On on a big percentage. Actually don't get a chance is so the To instill trading into your Cultura uh-huh you're also bettering person. So when when Jamaican see a a trajectory of that nature within your ultra they want to be Arthur Avenue. They want to be successful. So the first aspect of things is developing a culture that you want to be successful did The next aspect of things is this is from a compliance perspective. This industry is very very High on Flat so all of the phone calls are recorded bearup Arup speech analytics tools. That are telling you what the agent is to be saying versus what they're not to be saying their trainers and coaches. That are listening to those phone calls on Earth coaching developing agent so from a compliance perspective. We have to follow certain things therefore when they step out or make a mistake we have to rectify that back with garrels Contract would be in jeopardy. Are those penalties or whatever the case may be from that respective so so it's kind fellow two sides to the other compliance in the culture sector and that's how we keep people you know in in line all right. Let's get to our I tell. BPL Yanni and tell us what. When did you start and what inspired you to start? So I tell. People started in in two thousand twelve with them. Seven employs What inspired me to start is if I was to go back to when I was in college Actually when my grandma my I got from it she said that you have to get a job in order to payback doc for half of the car and if an insurance the gas and so on and so forth so I was being taught a lesson that if you want something you've got to earn it And I I got a job at a restaurant within tables and a friend of mine Autumn Stewart's whose family owned San Jose shorts said it to me. Why are you going to go work in a restaurant work reservations with us? The more money said all right so I left the restaurant than started working on the phone. MM says a call center agent in college art time selling vacations. The Sun is never going to sign those So that was my first. The Education of what a call center was all about. I can't say that that was the best call center. Agents are the most reliable call center agent that But it gave insights into the industry. And then when I when I left school I had an opportunity to come on. Oakland Air Jamaica. That was in two thousand and four so between two thousand Four and two thousand twelve when when I start is A. BPO Alvis alert. The INS and outs of the industry they know she. It was very small in Jamaica. Times but I believed in Jamaica on people because I saw what I was able to achieve working for some news Developing or call center into here so I knew that the opportunities where they're also knew that based upon the market nobody knew about Jamaica was really a leader or could be a leader in this industry. I knew that there was opportunity so when we started the business left Simul I'd reached point where again. That's not their core. Competency United reached a point where I think ad ended my tenure by achieving the goals that I wanted to achieve for them a said it was time to step out and this risks Myself a Lisa were just married a few years before that and and we had our first child on the way and we both still a big risk by And she actually was just started So we both took a big risk said you know what if not now then never so i. To Be Bill was was more story. We started with Gaza with seven people today. Today we are almost three thousand employees across five different countries. Because we've just recently announced the last are going to be opening In April of twenty twenty so when nine five countries although just over three thousand lives very very impressive. I must say back to item again. What was acquiring your first Clients unlike what was that experience. It was tough. You know the the hardest thing to overcome was that we had. We've had experience in the call center. World we had the infrastructure. We had the facility but we were not providing any service today so it is was very difficult to convince someone to take a chance at us and I felt that we started. We started in June of Twenty twenty twelve and the first account we actually started into calls on was in August of two thousand twelve and it was Was Three people and I will never forget the first check that we invoke invoiced out for was twenty seven hundred dollars equity bitter it at a time but you know we had up line. who had revacy built builds our model that we had some some cash relative sustain us as we continue to grow to business and finally find new plants a mighty Endo's by the end of that for the first year the first six months of twenty twelve? We add Read about forty five. Maybe fifty employees had three accounts that we're working with and and we're on our way EH. But through this journey the the the job is not necessarily gotten easier. And you know it's always been a boats votes you know if you only have fifty employees. How are you going to take on? Mike clamped by work of fifty employees. I'm doubling the size of your business. How is that going WANNA work? So that's always been. The biggest hurdle to overcome is instilling confidence in that. Client that no matter how many the seats they give you our jobs to provide that you can support it. Anew can sustain that growth and back today issue well suggest the issue of funding was itself. Fun Dad Did you have to raise capital externally. How how did that go? So we've we've raised capital in in in several different ways throw journey. So number one We we had I had some cash. A- die had saved up as well says we gotta alone from from Lisa's father to start a business about five months into the business Who are put up on Opportunity was put to us with a longtime friend of mine? who was all around more experience in business and he wanted to to get gene fogel twenty percent so we had done some equity financing with him and And then from there we took on Debt financing along the way but non traditionally because financing through the Food Camacho bags of have. Always been. Help Julia. And we've action. We've we have some lines of credits but we've never actually borrowed money from Russia. We've always we've always went to investment hoses Mary G Geek APODACA places like that To raise the debt financing to do whatever we were doing and then more recently We took a we took on more equity capital and unsold thirty. RT percentage of the business fifteen to pan gem investment and fifteen to Portland private equity So that was seen you know addition equity capital to continue to roll to grow the business. Now good for you good for you and as we head into a close of this conversation Yanni add to get from you. Why should entrepreneur? Consider outsourcing what stage really entrepreneurs stage businesses should consider outsourcing outsourcing their processes. So I mean it really all depends on on what's happening in business again. It goes back to the simple question is the task itself is whatever is non-core to your product or your service. You should outsource someone is GonNa do it more efficiently and cheaper than you can do it. Because it's not your core core part of the business so that that is the That would be the simple question that I would ask anybody at any size of your business give you an example of a client of ours. WHO started a business in the US? They started with two employees which a fun to employees for them and today eighteen months later we have thirty earthy employees for them because their businesses grown because they took the decision from day one to outsource the non-core aspect of of their visit. Any final thoughts feel appeal. I'd final thoughts in an entrepreneur assault near listening wondering if you should take risk the chance and do it I would say that's why not right. You know every everything in life is a risk we none of us know what they all come is going to be. None of us. Know if if it's it's going to work are not going to work. What's the one thing that you will know if you don't try it's forever going to hold you as you continue to to grow in in life and there's definitely ups and downs? It's never perfect. All those things that you see on online about being squiggly lines on all over the place On trump in today's great tomorrow's Next Day ten times harder next week is a phenomenal week and the roller coaster gets more enjoyable and more amazing as you go along on your journey so if you thinking about it that a chance if it doesn't work try again. There's always opportunities out there I I'm very mindful. I need to wrap up. There is just one question. I think I need to ask you and it is. What has been your worst entrepreneurial moment Yanni fourteen we one on account? That was should've been at that time. Our transition to the next stage of growth in our business with borrowed money. Our winton rented new space. We send people to the states to train and we came back to start hiring people and about six weeks after that declined. Collaterally went dark on us. South responding to our email stuff stopped coming on calls and decided to really get worried because we obviously took on some expense and plan to to be able to start meeting our our commitments and they just walked away so I literally jumped on a plane one day and went to Orlando where they're based to try. And you know. Be that Kenya Kit Again to make sure I got. We got our money and give us give us some stupid excuse and and we decided we were going to sue them and then they wanted to culture sue US and one day I woke up and said you know we don't have been wanting to fight so I'm either going to sink the business fighting lists or I'm going to suck it up. Lose a ton of money and figuring my way out of it and that was a decision that I took. That was the best decision that I that I made at the time. Suck it up and lose a ton of money I can relate to that I mean there's always a way out there's always a we absolutely woodley an immediate very small way depends on how you look at it perspective. Everything had to do that too. I was being sued because somebody Komo was infringing on their copyright the trademark whatever. But that's another story and eventually settled not out of guilt but oats of peace of mind than you know what it just just just calling today and and move right on and that's the nature of the beast you know To Be Celery and entrepreneurship is can be convert exciting in great journey but also wanted his very dark and lonely and I know that all too well so congrats on all the you know being able to accomplish with your team. I know it's not on you. Know a solar influence. You have an amazing team marrone. You know adults and you're doing quite well and I want to say Congress next to you. How big up to Lisa an amazing person as well so yeah I'm going to ask you know if you can just Share with me. How our community negative touch review and then we just right here sure nor is so My email is Yanni dot obscene at heal dot com office number eight seven six six nine five three six nine seven I tell. BPO SMART solutions on instagram. And I will be on facebook three three out. Thank you thank you Epstein now might be performing thank you for tuning into into this episode with the Nafta certainly look forward to connecting Libya next week. In the meantime get access to my membership Kouroum for a one time payment of their. US Dallas thirty dollars this consists of eighteen CNN for centrifuges experts from four countries over four days where they dropped significantly nickens bombs at an entrepreneur U. S. conference giving this the content and not only because the media's awfully but because the support this show and support glow dot com stashed away or on the show notes of your favorite card. Remember how you were born to win to be a winner. You must expect it all good.
Leveraging LinkedIn for High-Value Leads
"Hey, it's John Lee Dumas of e o fire, and it's the entrepreneurial you. The chauffeur dedicated and passionate care be an entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Speaker Award. Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss reporter. You must be prepared to ignite these three specific stages that we take them through which is position, so get your positioning right? Make sure you set up so that you irresistible to your ideal client step number to connect, so go out and connect with people, and that's not just direct connections. That's one piece of the puzzle. It's also about writing content. It's also about position yourself as an authority finding JV's affiliates connecting with media. And then the third step is scale. So how do you take this manual process? And you grow it so that you can actually scale your business using it because one of the big things for me is that I don't just WanNa do on Kohl's all the time because you can't scale it. I want to create a system that can bring a team that they can jump into the system and they can get colds booked. You on average, a my team and myself were doing between ten and fifteen sales calls a week. Hi, this is Hannibal. I'm so glad you took the time to stop by today. In Jamaican Parlance Wadwan McGLADE say Dale. This episode is sponsored by Hannah Cocky. Sports Dot Com as well as the. Stock Exchange now on Hannibal walkies worth Dot Com you can visit us to blogs, resources, books, online podcast courses, podcast and more, if you are new to the entrepreneur new podcast, be sure to check out past episodes with such as Johnny Zuma's but trees Washington Seth Godin. Brunson Amy Porterfield and a host of other game changes. We needed to risk capital, but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had real concerns about financing our business outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business? We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try the Jamaica Stock Exchange, so we made a call. An experience transformation of our business through conversations John Mahfoud Seal of Jamaica. And we're listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange Give us a call today at eight, seven, six, nine, hundred, seven, three, two, seven, one to begin your transformation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. And now Harris today's episode linked in is increasingly becoming a very strong place. Companies develop their talent plans their recruitment plans, and so there are ways in which we can track some of the momentum there, according to Jeff Winer greetings. My people former I. Just you're doing great. It is episode one hundred and Seventy of the entrepreneur podcast I'm Hanukkah. What case Porter Today's episode as with Matthew Clark and Matthews founder of the virtual edge and Co creator of the remake of system and online marketing system that helps entrepreneurs get. Get. Two to five high value leads per day from Lincoln without paying for ADS Matthew who has shared stage with the likes of Dr Phil Gt Fox Michael Douglas and many more is the author of the proven path, the automation playbook and the automated income systems so I'm excited to talk to Matthew Matthew Abodes Leveraging Lincoln for high. Value Leads Welcome Matthew. Thank you so much for having me on, Nicole I'm really excited about. Today's about today's interview absolutely before we start. Though what if anything do you know about Jamaica? But Molly comes from their. Cool runnings of course. We can do the song. I mean I was also like just doing a little bit of homework, and some some really cool stuff and I find some amazing. Rarely interesting facts as well actually blew my mind and I think one of my favorite lines is that. The Ian Fleming. Who's the writer of James Bond Right? He actually designed his dream home. You had built in Jamaica okay, and he actually cold Goldeneye, yeah and. Actually, in Jamaica, he wrote ten of his children on James Bond, spy thrillers, but the exam with flying colors. Let's. Let's go to graduation right? Okay, congratulations. Yes, yes, yes, let's know about in length in for high value leads now talk to me about your experience with your company First of all you know how you are helping persons to generate these leads meet money. Yeah, it's a good question. I think the key thing to realize. Is that I don't actually come from a marketing background. Background is actually door to door sales. I did that since I was eighteen. When I left school and said for me, I'm not one of those people who voiced grown up. You know using computers and diving deep into marketing, and understanding it on a bit I'm not the greatest on technology. For me, it's about how do I get in front of my ideal clients? And how do I start having a conversation with him? and. So that's pretty much how we built the system. Whereas how can we get people set up in a way? We can attract your ideal clients to you, but then also got and find them. So. It's very very simple for me. Is that we should entrepreneurs how to get to two five high value leads per day from Lincoln without paying for ads and this three specific stages that we take him through which is position, so get your positioning right? Make sure you set up so that you irresistible to your ideal client step number two is connect to go out and connect with people, and that's not just direct connections. That's one piece of the puzzle. It's also about writing content. It's also about positioning yourself as an authority finding JD's affiliates connecting with media. And then the third step is scale. So how do you take this manual process? And you grow it so that you can actually scale your business using it. Because one of the big things for me is like I. Don't WanNa. Do One all the time because you can't scale it. I I wouldn't trade system at and that's a big thing. Right for me. It's I want to create a system that can bring a team in that they can jump into the system and they can get colds booked. You don't average. My my team and myself doing between ten and fifteen sales colds a week, so we actually started the company about six years ago, and what happened was that I had a head of business a Samson dealership and we are selling. X. Switchable telephone systems. Copy is in CICI, TV. And what happened was that we built this business up. Really big I had sixty staff members, doing high seven figures and. What I really wanted I looked at it and just decided I. Don't WanNa do this anymore. I'm working myself to the bone. I wasn't really helping people. You will making lots of money. Don't get me wrong. I like the money side of things in really helping people. And I just really felt like it was something that was eating my soul, so I decided to move outs, and what I did was that I went searching I realized what I wanted to do. Really was to credit laptop lifestyle work from anywhere in the world earned multiple currencies travel all the time and have it work on autopilot so I started going on I heard that you know the incident is the way to do. This and marketing is the way to do this. And so I started attending these conferences, and we had like a lot of American speakers come out to South Africa in you know they were talking about how to be successful and had a great business and wealth and all the stuff. And I was actually looking less at what they were saying and more at what they were doing. And what I noticed was that a lot of these guys they had the Selah wanted. They looked like they were making the money that I wanted to make, and they really looked like they were helping people. But what I noticed about all that was that they were using a system cold infusion soft most of them rant. And as I started diving deeper into this I realized well. Hey, here's a system that I. can you know that that actually automates a lot of the processes that does a lot of things that I used to have sales, people and technical in stop doing. And I can have a system during the fraction of the price without the people. And I was like I'm sold. I WANNA. Do this, so Winston I got myself certified and helping people grow. But Dan, a couple years down the line, and we had many iterations in many different versions of products and services that we had, but about two years ago, actually about three years ago, we realized that okay cool. We can automate people's businesses, but now the big thing is they still need leads. How do we get these leads coming in? And we went down the route of facebook and I'm not technical a that wasn't an easy thing for me I'm also not great on social, either so that wasn't easy for me. same thing with Google same thing with Google ads, and actually a friend reached out to me, and we just got to chat on a chats, and she said I'm doing the stuff with Lincoln and it's super easy. Why don't you give these few things to try? And I did. And I started getting leads I, started getting clients, and then I was like well I'm pretty sure I need to get this as well and we started working with other people helping them grow that. And in one thing led to another we kind of switched the entire business from doing infusion soft, which was tough, it was complicated to just helping people get more leads, and all of a sudden the results grew. It was easier to get leads. It was easier to get results and people were really loving it as they say, the rest is history. Yes in the last two years. I mean since we went all in on Lincoln, we've been able to help. Thousand five hundred clients. In one thousand five hundred entrepreneurs in eighteen countries grow their businesses using strategy. So I've been really grateful to be able to help people do that. Okay, so awesome sauce and it. Someone's really good, and you're doing that from South Africa, and and you're getting. You know as you say clients from where. In in your experience, how does Lincoln works for business? Absolutely right so very simple. The big thing is most people think that Lincoln is just a recruitment platform right in used for CDs, and they use it for hinting, and they used to hire and bring on New People, but in actual fact, it's the world's largest business network right the largest professional network so people on there and they're ready to do business so the first step that you need to do is you need to get laser focused on? Who is your ideal clients? Who Do you want to talk it? Now most people are going that when Austin the question. They tell me you know anyone that can pay me money. Which is? Obviously not a great onset. But what happens, is that you WANNA get laser focused on your ideal clients, so we use what we call the power one solve one problem one ideal client. And then go look for more of those, and you want to deepen understanding who this person is. What are the big pains and frustrations? WHAT THE THE FEARS! The things that keep them up at night. What did they goals and desires and they dreams and aspirations. And then what you do is we create what we call a pickup line. And this is all about this tells people how to work with you before they even talk to you. Let me give you an example of this. So normally what people will have in the headline of linked in is that they'll have. C. O. Founder or coach or the speaker whatever it is right? But. It's such a missed opportunity. So what I've got, there is I help coaches, consultants and advisers get two to five high value leads per day from Linton without paying fads. And value proposition is right there front. Boom exactly. People know how to work with me before they talk to me. And so what that does is that when my profile comes up, that's the first thing people see in the like okay. I get it. And that brings views brings more connections and brings them messages, but then you've got to set your profile at full conversions now these ten things that you need to do on your profile, but I'll cover the top three. which the most important you know. You actually read my mind because that was my next question to you in terms of how do we get the most of our pro from our profile, so you're adding to it? Love it love it. Love it. Love it. Cool we on the same wavelength. So the top three of the most important have a banner that brands you and that positions you as the expert. That's at Dacron, Bene-. Most people just got it blank right so put something that is GonNa Brand you, that's GonNa speak to ideal client that maybe we'll even show them at desired outcome. And have your contact details on there with a bold slogan on top very simple. Sake and things have a professional image up. You know one with you smiling racing professional, not something with your cattle with your kids or something like that. You unless you're a vet, then it makes sense. But you know have some professional image up. And in the last thing is the pickup line. So make sure that you don't have O. found or something like that. Put to pick up line and it's very simple. He has the formula for it. I help who have your ideal client is achieve whatever result you help them achieve. You need to have a measurable. Mexican a timeframe through whatever system methodology is. Those are the three most important things and just getting that right. You'll have twenty one times more views thirty six times more messages. Absolutely any seem obviously been working for you. Talk to US Matthew about investing in Lincoln. Premium Ya It's a must without dots. I mean if you are serious about growing a business, it is the easiest and cheapest way to find high quality leads. You'RE GONNA pay I think seventy dollars or seventy five dollars or something. Right. But if you had to spend seventy five dollars, and you can literally pull up lists of hundreds, if not thousands of ideal clients, and I'm talking about the exact person that you looking for. If, you go to spend seventy five dollars on facebook ads on Google ads on instagram or whatever it is, it's going to take you a lot longer to be able to reach those people, you won't get near the amount of numbers near the amount of list, and it's just a and you need to have a lot more to make it work. You need a funnel to make it work. So, it's a must for those who have not yet invested in it. What it is that separates the the free profile from the premium. So the biggest thing is your ability to connect with people so on the free profile I think you can do a buck fifty connections in a month, and that's just starting out in just a couple of connections a month. That's absolutely cold, but if you really want to grow it, you want to be able to connect with a lot more i. mean some of the strategies that we're taking people through with showing them with sending connection up to one thousand five hundred connection requests in a month, so it sounds like a lot into Mike, but it's only sixty a day. Takes less than thirty minutes, and in terms of the Algorithm, so we know that all of these social media platforms the the work with Algorithm and one day. You think you figure it out and the next minute. You have no idea what's going on. How does that work with Lincoln? So it's very simple with Lincoln right? They don't want you to become another facebook. They don't want you to spend people, so they want you to go and build connections because it's professional network, so keep it reasonable. You know if you if you're connecting with people saying you know city to between thirty and sixty connections day you. Some people go when they do like one hundred connections in a profile gets blocked. Think about it as quality over quantity. Go in with that mindset, going with the mindset of look actually going to go in and build real relationships with people, and that's when you can see Right and Ho does like your your posting your messaging defers from for example comparing again to to to facebook. Definitely great question, and to how it differs is very simple linked. You have direct conversations with people, so if you're connecting with somebody, you want to have a direct conversation with them. You got to remember people there in the mindset to do business facebook. They socialize right. It's a social network visit professional network. And so you think about the difference in that to social is people sharing pictures of their kids of they family of the pits of the travel. Whereas Lincoln is business, and the mindset around is business, and so when you connecting with people have that direct conversation, because that appreciate it, and so in terms of your content that you put on new posts in that, you WanNa make it about the problems that you help people solve. Make it about things that can actually move people forward. That solves big problem. And that's also why you're going to be so specific about who you're targeting because. If you try be everything to everybody, your message is just not going to resonate with anyone, right? You can't be all things so all people right. Percents I love. I love at one point talk. You know that one problem for that one idea clients like you finding your Avatar now. I've had some questions mats, and going to allow you to share just out of your share. Experience of using to get high value leads just share on some of the things that we have not yet talked about so that you can inform or or perform community. The biggest thing is that you want to go in with Carritti right now. If you going onto Lincoln the mindset is around. It's always about consistency. Okay, and I think anything really. You've got to be consistent in what you doing, so you want to set your goal. Goal of what you want a cheap, so as an example. If you wanted to get three new clients this month, you need to know your numbers so in order for you to get three new clients. How many conversations do you need to have? So you can actually work your way backwards, and you can say well if you get have a twenty percent conversion rate your so that's one in five means. You're going to need to fifteen conversations to bring on three clients now connected. You need to have to get to those conversations, and let's say you have a ten percent connection right, so you need to have a hundred and fifty connections to get to those fifteen clients. You want to work out day by day. How many connections do you need to do a day to get to that? And the key to all of this is once you know those numbers. It's about being consistent being consistent with your message, being consistent in connecting with people and the most important thing is to focus on building relationships. So don't just go into. Try and spend people, but actually go in caring about the people you talking to go in looking to build relationship and having conversations open up conversations. Don't try and close sales. I think that's the biggest mind six shift around Lincoln Open conversations. Do include sales like that, too. You're. You're making some really nice point. Line hair you. Love it I love you, too Put Position in connecting and scaling those three things that we need to be thinking about when we're using Lincoln. In in a short time, you have indeed said a lot and I am sure that's or community wants to to know more from you, but that final piece of advice that you want to give I, mean you know you just talked about you? Know opening conversations, and not closing sales and stuff like that, but that final piece of advice and also homemade person get in touch with you to to connect to learn more to perhaps do business with you. Definitely, so the final piece of advice is focus you know, go focus on that one ideal client, and this is the most difficult thing that we see with people. Is that you know they say well, if only focus on these guys, what about everyone else right well, that one niche that you focus on this hundreds, if not thousands of people in the definitely big enough. So choose one and focus on one I. Would I would say the biggest advice on going on Lincoln. Because if you do that, you can create the message. You can set your profile. You can connect with them. You can create content that resonates with him. That is the biggest thing. Get that focus and go into one ideal client. In terms of connecting with me and finding out more I think the best thing to do obviously is linked him. I'm sure obviously. I had to say it though. And so you look for Mac clock, Lincoln and also just the thing. If you're going to connect with me, please send a message. Let me know that you heard me on Hanukkah. Show and I can lay Tenneco that. You know that there is that there's some good traction coming from there as well because we are also going to share this with people as well. Hanukkah absolutely in Africa and all over right. All over the world. Eighteen countries. Absolutely, that's so great. Thank you so much for your time. Methods been a great time talking with you and I know that you had provided value the value in it and I'm sure the community does as well so thank you so much. Absolute pleasure, and there's one last thing. Would you like goes like? Share a gift. Guests with with the listeners. Yes, yes, please. Okay Awesome, so you know earlier, we spoke about the three things that they can do to start setting the profile bright. We've created a something called the twenty minute profile makeover. And you can actually go download that full free on my website, so it's www dot the virtual edge dot com, you can download it for free, and will actually take you step by step on sitting a profile at the correct way. Twenty minute profile makeover, the virtual edge dot com right absolutely, and then even after that is a forty seven minute training. That'll take them through even further on what to do now. There's no sales pitch. Pitch or anything like that because I believe my belief is that you know come in, were come and take a what we do in how we do it, and if you like it for, we can talk all right. Thank you so much again. Matthew, thank you. Matthew Clarke you have shared a lot with us and know that you know much value. Thank you so much. Thank you to my former tuning into this episode with Matthew. I look forward to connecting with you next. In the meantime you know that the kindle version of this book podcast our quickstart guide. It's launching living up. Your brand is available for purchase on Amazon of course. As well, but if you're a person that. They're just go to. Amazon or walk is working dot com, and you'll find right there and took. That teaches why you need start upon class. No hold one. Hold to find this whole to make money. Lebron and so much more so. Go get it. So that you can. I continue to. I want to share a point of. This week is that salvation is one else, but there is no other name on a heaven given to mankind which we must be. According to ask for versus I twelve. That's it meditates on effects on AIDS and what good thank you so much.
Ep. 131 Elevating Your Personal Brand With a Podcast, with Stephen A. Hart
"Hey is jolly. Dumas's of e Oh fire and it's the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate Caribbean entrepreneurs seeking daily inspiration brought to you by author Speaker award-winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite. We needed to risk capital. In our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates. Were far too high. We had unreal concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business business. We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try the Jamaica Stock Doc Exchange so we made a call an experienced transformation of our business through conversations John Food Seal of Jamaica and T.'s his and we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight seven six nine six seven three two seven one to begin. Your transmission showed through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange coming up on this episode of the Entrepreneurial Turell. You realize more and more that in twenty almost twenty twenty what someone finds out about you when they search you is going to leave them more or less inclined to do business with you or to hire. It doesn't matter whether you're an entrepreneur business owner or even. If you are corporate professional professional you have to address your personal brand starting there. It's very important that we give thought to our presence online online or digital what I call our digital footprints when somebody googles you. What are they finding out about you because somebody searching you even if you work employer and you're looking for a new job. A recruiter is going to be looking you up. You're going to be searching you on link. They're going to be searching you on Google to see what they can find. I know it's about you and if you don't take control of the information and the results that you're gonNA find you're going to be in hot water. Greetings greetings greetings my peak form of agents that you're are having a wonderful day. This is episode one thirty one of the entrepreneur view podcast and Hanikos. It's also now. I'm particularly excited about this interview. For animal reasons one it is being recorded righted live at Hot Kost Movement two thousand nineteen. EA in the beautiful city of Orlando too I'm excited to speak speak with a friend who I am actually meeting the very very first time although we've been talking so long ago and we're meeting right here for the first time podcast in three Jamaica on and fellow Kosta so I really looking forward to this interview with the amazing Viva in heart yes even me is a host of trailblazers dot. FM is founder of als Meteo Grand Alignment Strategist and dynamic speaker is part of the two thousand sixteen class of black enterprise one hundred modern modern men of distinction and a whole lot more so I'm really looking forward to this conversation on elevating your brand with podcast. Welcome Stephen. Thank you so much for having Hanukkah. Rely on facebook live before I have we have we connected in many ways before we are here. We are podcast movements. Yes so as Jamaica. What do you think is the best thing about us as Jamaicans but it's the best thing about us as Jamaica's me are unique in so many ways and we are always represented in every region and every industry and it is so awesome to see US represented here at podcast movements absolutely absolutely because we're everywhere and you know we accelerate everything is really great. Vladimir yeah all right so we're going to be talking about elevating your personal brand with a podcast right and you've been doing that so beautifully now paint a picture before we get into that of who you were as boy going in Jamaica the little boy growing up in Jamaica wow I'm fought a two year years old no grew up in Kingston memories of growing up in Kingston in the eighties and nineties GonNa add JBC back then yes. I remember I remember that time. Just remember you know I even think now I I have two young kids and I'm thinking of always you know always ramping and enjoying the great outdoors and adventure of going to hell. Oh Sean Sunday every Sunday got shot and you know enjoying life Egypt as a whole I'm blinkhorn tree and my family's from Saint Mary so in nineteen stunned. I still spent time constraint Portland on. Og while memories of spending time with my parents and family from a large family my dad had has twelve siblings. Eleven siblings and a mom has six so thinking of growing up. I think of my time in in in high school I'm John. SDG See big O okay and I'm from Mary. Hi Let me calling means and all of that so immediately I'm thinking of time in highschool time spent with family and time traveling. I mean we're not GonNa do it on that. What you said something about the outdoor is and it's Kinda Sad. I believe that I don't think or or no generation really know what it is. The experience playing outdoors doors locked onto the the the devices. Yeah a bit of that. I think to wear a little bit. More concerned votes votes the other people that could be in company with our kids. Just let them run. Roam Free Yeah so so many fastest continues so yeah. We digress a little bit more to that yeah right so we can get into that. You know that could be a whole nother potash but anyway we come right back and we're going to be keeping focus focus on just using podcast to elevate your brandon's unsuccessful Soviets. No you are fast-tracking to all of that from the you know the countryside and Jamaica and all of that. You're not dynamics echo. You're successful. Casto your family man and just so much more but I want to focus on the casting element of fakes. Thanks Shane Blazes. Dot It sounds yeah. It's doing so well. That's right yeah so we just touched on AH Dieter. It's my daughter is no nine but when she's about five hundred a growing up in Jamaica. I don't think I identified array shall divide grew up in Jamaica right like I do in the United States and I think there's more of a class divide in Jamaica that you're aware of growing but at five I realized that you know this young girl in the mainstream media media in the in the political climate. We're in today she's going to grow up on C. Representation of ourselves in what the media tells her she can come and often times that is told to her that she can be a musician are athletes or celebrity or nothing and yet it's. I live in been living in Maryland Bosh. NBC For the past twelve years and I see so many accomplished black professionals in a lightbulb moment topic for me and that was the fuel for trailblazers it was me wanting to highlight the story of accomplished black professionals nationals beat entrepreneurs or corporate leaders or creatives really on showcase their story and and and mm provide my daughter and so many others of visual you know really representation of black people accomplishing success across the spectrum and he means about stories and I think that fits nicely because when you think about the fact that foam the Caribbean we are Orosz additionally right so we don't really document a lot of things and thankfully the podcast. You're you're solving that problem by documenting seen by the podcast but just that oral tradition of just sharing talking about because that's how you know we we retain elements of our culture and that's how we continue to let others know what had happened before. I've so you are you're doing an amazing job hitting those stories and you know highlight the if I there needs to be told. What are some of these stories that you've told what. What have you been seeing? How many episodes are you know are just published one hundred eighty four. WHOA WHOA high five right here. I love this live video because I mean if we're doing via skype and stuff. I would normally do air than I wouldn't be able to do this again all right so that's great so you. I want to hear about some of the stories that you've been telling and how that has been impacting your community absolutely so I'd say again. Highlighting entrepreneurs on leaders probably edits. It's helping to a lot of different entrepreneurs and some of the people who I have featured. I mean it goes across. you know so many different industries but immediately coming to mind is stories like Mignon Francois. entrepreneur business owner of a cupcake collect. Sean in Nashville Tennessee and mignon is someone who shared a story of losing losing everything literally having cars repossessed no lights on in her hosts with kids don't to her last five dollars and thought what I'm going to start a cupcake business and she puts a signing our window up kicks coming soon and started offering cupcakes to different people in the community on one one a realtor shows up and says I need six hundred cupcakes by Sunday and AH this coming weekend. She's a week old and she says even have should goes back says God. Why did you do this. I'm going to my last five dollars. Oh Am I going to create six hundred cupcakes by the weekend. She says even I on faith. It took the last five dollars. I had she's living off a generator for Polo Right. She had made on into hoes. She has nothing she takes five dollars in the store and turns that five dollars into Sixty Biden next day and she turns that sixty six hundred by the weekend and she's gone on to turn that into over ten million dollars in her business in time. Our business has been operational while I mean I'm sitting here listening to that story I can see the imports that touched the whole race thing and and so on early racial divide and stuff and I'm sure for a black person you know making being that impact it does mean something particularly now in unaware living in this era. Here's the beautiful thing about us while we are still interviewing only interviewed black professionals. We don't necessarily have to have a conversation race. We're having a conversation about story right and I'm hopeful and I've actually seen where people of all races derive value from those episodes and it doesn't have to be a conversation about the fact that we're where black success success absolutely has no colored has wisdom and value and knowledge and resources. It's all right so you are a brand strategist. That's yes and you are Kosta. Yes yeah yeah so no. I want to find out from you. How is that working for you in terms of getting your brand message across because this podcast episode realisable elevating your Personal Granda podcast. How are you doing that. Hose it working for you and then we're gonNA move into some tips and so on so let's talk about personal branding. That's really my focus on still something I realized Aniko you and I experienced they reach out to US asking to be featured on our podcast August absolutely on what iphone more times than not I might hear a story that interests me whether it's someone emailing me and soliciting the episode or just me being out at conferences or networking events on here. A story interests me and I go back more times than no not to my laptop and I google that person what was happening was I was left. Indifference not enough team up that said hey you know this person has footprints that Kinda wants me to move to the next level of having on the podcast and I was filing lots the people away not following through to having them on the show and I realize more and more that in twenty almost twenty twenty fifth I what someone finds out about you when they search you is going to leave them more or less inclined to do business with you or to hire you right and it doesn't matter whether you're an entrepreneur business owner or even if your corporate professional right you have to address your personal brand so starting there. It's very important that we give thought to our presence online or digital what I call our digital footprints when somebody googles you. What are they finding out about you because somebody search? Shia employ and you're looking for new job. A recruiter is going to be looking you up. You're going to be searching you on linked. They're going to be searching on Google to see what they can find out. It's about you and if you don't take control of the information and the results that you're gonNA find you're going to be in hot water and so now talking about podcasting elements of that right why podcast you touched on this earlier. Story is all as key mandate right like it is a way or Breen's are trying to do two things one. It's trying to survive on thrive so we want to know how we're going. Geena Powell on starts us. We want to know again. See on your make money. We don't want to burn calories doing it and so podcasting hi casting is I greatly as you touched on to share information via story and it's easily received so it's a great way for you to be able to brand around yourself. Share your stories and get out there. You know bring awareness to the world on what it is that you're looking to do all right so I want to know some personal examples of Khawla podcasts working for you in terms of augmenting mention your brand and after that we're going to move in reaching just move into some tips holzer use it effectively absolutely so Johnson I crushed John by we of me starting trailblazers now having one hundred and eighty four episodes of being able to speak. I spoke yesterday to two hundred people at podcast movement. That's my my high again. Yes the event I'm so have speaking opportunities that have come by way of this in addition to that. I've been able to the get partnerships sponsorships something real revenue generated over fifty thousand dollars in sponsorship revenue from the podcast side alone in addition Asian have developed products so I have a personal branding course that awful call brand you academy so much more that have have come by way of this actually leads right and the awards and stuff have come as well and nowhere heard in one hundred and forty countries by over two hundred fifty thousand people so it there's so so much that has come by way of podcast tips when talk about grinding nine times out of ten people think about a logo and it so so much more so when we talk about branding and developing personal brand so two quick tips fearless nuts. Is You need to honest on a very high level. You need to establish a foundation that are very high level. You need to know what your mission in life is. When Google maps are we talking to show it gives us information gives us the to be to get to where we want to go into weight. You and I need to have a clear view on what we're wanting to accomplish accomplish over the next thirty years. I begin to write out a plan of action. Utilize tools project management tools like Assan are trello to to be able to task. Ot commish goals from near. You need to start looking at visual elements of your brand so your callers. Your ONS are very important. If nothing else nature you take care of that right. a name the messaging we touched on making sure you know how somebody's Breen is Wyatt right. hoppy texts your description when you're developing a websites and you're in writing about pitch you need to be writing. Peter Writing your product page with the vantage point of hoses going to add value to the person on the other aside. It's not about you. It's about how it's going to help someone else right to your messaging is sold and things like your websites right when somebody the Google search somebody's GonNa hurt you. You have the ultimate control and making sure that you have a personal websites right so you purchase your your name. Don't you mean I own. TV HEART DOT COM. I also own the handles to act Stephen. A Heart's everywhere across social media to those are the things that typically will come up for so those are the things you can control across social media right and then make sure you take care of your brand presents across social social you have control of our twitter control of linked him and those sites have fifth grade with Google that are gonNA come up I for you in addition to your personal website website right so those are some of the high level things that you can do that are going to help you establish from the code with your personal brand because what what you really want to do with the scandal it's who wants to like to blend in right no here coming here. Stephen in Jamaica all right so we are wrapping up no and in wrapping up I want to I know we touched on some of the things that are testing as don't feel but in terms of L. Highlight one of the one of those things that we've mentioned and tell or audience our listeners is that they can actually go about using that to elevate their brand sure so. Let's Talk Web because I think that's the first thing that somebody should do right so action item right now right now. Don't wait till tomorrow right now. You can jump on go daddy dot com and for fifteen dollars. You can purchase your domain him eighteen so if you do nothing else right now I want you to jump on and purchase your domain today for maybe a hundred and fifty bucks you can purchase web-hosting and install a web theme. If you have questions about it can reach out to me okay and here we want to you know to tell us how to reach you absolutely and if you have have any giveaway that yes so we're talking about personal branding and I have an amazing personal brand audit checklists over on my website. If you jump over to my website again it's evening hearts dot Com Stephen Is S. T. E. P. H. E. N. A. Hearts Dot COM com. Hop On over there right on my homepage. You're going to see the option to secure that personal brand audits only to go ahead and do yeah. That's and it's going to help you to look at the different areas and score yourself and you know from the again. If you have any questions you can hit me up my my direct email lists unit. Steve NEWHART DOT COM and I'm Steve Newhart everywhere across social media so follow me up or send me an email aw amazing and thank you might perform as my guest today has been. Stephen a heart live at podcast movement. I Really WanNa thank you for your time. Thank you for joining us. Even thank you for having me really great finally got them to another. I Gupta thank you so much for tuning in this episode. Even if at any time with an acting with you we've we under next time. Remember you can visit Hannibal. What you support your dot com shop for merchandise or get your course going so so remember? You were born to women to be a winner. You must not anti expect what good want to start your podcast. I would not sure where to go to Hanukkah. What is working dot. COM and clean your one month a hosting on blueberry or if you already have your host aren't getting getting special space on your podcast claim one month we stats from chemical. Go ahead and sign up now the.
Folktales Week Jamaica Night
"Chompers is produced by Gimblett and sponsored by crest an oral B. Welcome back. It's time for more chompers your morning and night tooth brushing show on the top of your mouth on one side and brush all the way back to your molars three. Br. It's folktales week. And today, we're hearing a story from Jamaica about an unsee the spider. Announcing had this great idea to collect all of the common sense in the world and put it in a pot. But then he started to worry what would happen if the pot was stolen announced it was going to have to protect his pot. So we tied a rope around the pot and slung it in front of himself and looked for the tallest hardest climb tree. Switzer brushing to the other side of the top of your mouth, but don't brush too hard. Using all eight of his legs and Nancy began to climb the tree. This whole thing was harder than he planned. The pot with heavy and it was swinging in front of him like a big awkward necklace. And then a Nazi heard something strange sounded like laughing. A Nazi turned to look down. Nearly lost his grip on the tree. But then he saw where the laugh was coming from from a little kid. Switcher brushing to the bottom of your mouth, keep on brushing little kids shouted up to him. Hey, this is so silly. If you wanna climb this tree, why don't you hang the pot behind you? Instead of in front of you. You're making me away harder than it needs to be now on the one hand this made a lot of sense. But on the other hand it made a nonsense angry peapod, you've collected all the common sense and put it in this pot. But here he was getting told how to do something by a little kid. Clearly, he had missed some common sense. Switch you're brushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brush the inside outside and chewing side of each. And Nancy began to shuffle around and try to move the pot behind his back. But he did he dropped it. The pot broke into a zillion pieces, and all of the common sense dot away, it tumbled down a hill and got caught in a gust of wind and blue and still hinder actions. Commonsense. Blue all over the world, everyone got a little bit. And that's why you have some and I have some. But no one has it all. Trump tonight until tomorrow three two. Chompers is a production of Gimblett media chompers is brought to you by crest and oral B grownups. You probably already know how important it is for kids to get in the habit of brushing. That's why crest an oral B have all kinds of dentists recommended products that make brushing easier for parents and more fun for kids crest toothpaste or not only safe for kids in Nambele. But they also come in flavors. They love like strawberry and bubblegum help them keep their smiles healthy for life with crest and oral B.
Making IT Work During a Pandemic
"Hey, it's John, Lee Dumas of e Oh fire, and it's the entrepreneurial you. The chauffeur dedicated and passionate care be an entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Speaker Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss reporter. You must be prepared to ignite. Ren Folks are working in their organizations in their offices there almost clue with by the. Organization eighty security protection. And so there's a comfort in knowing that. You are within or Schema protection however know that your work remotely. We are not not comfortable in the more so here are all these other things that has to happen with respect. The suffer that air using so for us. One of the big recommendations that we make tolerable customers is switching on multi factor authentication. On the force, strengthening passwords on of course, ensuring that the connectivity between you on the officer, you're on the Internet to secure, so that's VPN's encryption, says a whole host of things that no. Some, folks used to have it as additional. Software addition at somebody somebody else had to do. A lot of technology no have to bill that in to ensure that their applications are chosen over another applications because they can prove that it is not safe. Hi, this is Hannibal. I'm so glad you took the time to stop by today. Eight Jamaican parlance walk. Guan McGLADE Say Dale. This episode is sponsored by Hanukkah. Walkie sports dot com as well as the. Stock Exchange now on Hanukkah, walkies, worship, dot, com, you can visit us to blogs, resources, books, online podcast, courses, podcasts and more, if you are new to the entrepreneur new podcast, be sure to check out past episodes with guests such as Johnny, Zuma's but trees, Washington Seth Godin Richard. Branson Amy Porterfield and a host of other game changes. We needed to risk capital, but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had real concerns about financing our business outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for business. We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I? Try the Jamaica Stock, exchange, so we made a call an experience transformation of our business through conversations. John Mahfoud seal of Jamaican teas, and we're listed on the Jamaica stock. Exchange give us a call today at eight, seven, six, nine, six, seven, three, two, seven, one to begin your transformation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock. Exchange And now, Harris today's episode. The first rule of any technology used in business is that automation applied to an efficient operation will magnify efficiency. The second is that automation applied to an inefficient. Will Magnify Inefficiency Bill. Gates greetings greetings my peak performer. I chose that you're doing okay, even in the make. I want to welcome you to episode one hundred and Sixty Nine of the entrepreneur podcast. I'm your host of course handing Komaki, sports. Today's episode is with Christopher. Chris is the seal for the leading Information Technology Support Organization. T takes limited. Jamaica's only pure play it outsourcing and managed services provider Chris has thirty three years of experience in delivery and implementation of information, technology solutions and irregular speaker on technology in the IT industry in Jamaica for fun, Chris writes a column in the Jamaica Observer and host wind related events in Jamaica and the USC, so I'm really looking forward to our conversation on making it work during pandemic. Welcome Chris Thank you so much for having. It's my absolute pleasure, and before we get into our conversation. What favorite thing about being Jamaica on my favorite thing would be Jamaican. Is that there's a creative juice that seems to just flow through our denny in this in the this geographic space that seems to allow a lot of entrepreneurs to just be able to think and create anything. I absolutely agree with you. That couldn't agree with you more, and if dive into our topic for today making it work during a pandemic. No, you run a very successful it company in Jamaica first of all. Tell me a little about your your organization. What it is that you're doing for Jimmy Johns or economy. What is it that you you focus on? So when the phone the company current Chairman Teddy, Alexander had the idea. He was the CIO for one of the risk limited. On the opportunity presented itself after Greece was going through some Rogan Ization, looking at Houghton lower costs in the central offices on. You know, start to introduce maximize use of innovation, but important was it was a cost reduction measure? teddy spent some time in north. America interest me I worked for the company in Florida to provide outsourcing services to him dime. Co Brisk in USA. Also it. Also was the CEO of company. He saw an opportunity when the grace organization thought that. There was there was some some way to leverage the use of centralized services, especially technology to share among the organization on. He came into the propaganda. To take over. The outsourcing took over the management. Of all the entire infrastructure. I needed it, and when they brought in external consultants, measure it. He actually was able to the cost of of of delivering those services by twenty percent, so it was successful for him unsuccessfully for the opposition, and that's one of oldest contracts, not illness. I said that experience on that for sites by all phone today, executive created what is not. A number of folks not take a pot of Greece, not tickets a separate entity. It started by four experience Kennedy Team members and we have grown since we're now at forty five persons We're not listed company on or whole. Is, to deliver. Information Technology Services on talk customers and deliver it in unseen. The gooden Mina who we turn to the talking comparable delivering it services. And delivering seeing the IT services. So that's his quick not. A very high level what specifically we do in these outsourcing services there are. Six areas. We begun. We've begun business by by by managing monitoring the infant. The infrastructure me and the networking and server infrastructure is also included, and then eventually once network on server infrastructure managed monitored one house to start to figure out how to secure it. Securing that infrastructure with another set of services that was was rolling. And then several. Years after the questions of our own well okay guys, you guys are monitoring and managing all that infrastructure. Can you help us with or service? This needs ords responding to the actual decide needs of folks having ID challenges that handle internally, and then that was handed over to us as another service. That was Ford Service started. Delivering. On the time went on. Cloak came about well been around, but the concept of moving some of the services cloud so startling. Some clothes Meg Ryan Services on. An exchange online. Office three sixty five right? On the last month at least when you are the. It information technology. Provider Advisor in an organization are connected to the organization. You're going to start to get a lot of requests for assistance our own. Decisions with suffer selection with a project management, so one of the latest divisions are the A set of services was consulting consultation had to make decisions on the implement intimate software, so those that are injured services that we all fought in general, and we have up to about sixty five seventy Costa's know that we offer those those starting from the first year, but we don't into Amazon. They have a full scale operation as it were so let's no move into getting some of your opinion. Like what is the role of Information Systems in? A pandemic in preparing for pandemic will. Luke couldn't have prepared for this because we did know, but like it's happening now. So what's the role of Information Systems in your? Were? Terrible, not knowing The. Fact is that there are organizations out there that prepared for something like this. We were not sure. Exactly, something that this would look like. But Anyone who does enterprise risk management on any sort of risk assessments and create registers if you work with any of the large consulting organizations What determines a Black Swan. Events will be part of the discussion. On the Black Swan event that came from the whole story of hundreds of years ago. In Europe, no one has ever seen something like a Black Swan, and so they believe it didn't exist onto the explorer explore. Australia saw Black Swan. There's a book that is is our own that. Idea and concept of you know seeing on preparing for things that you've never seen before, so they are folks that have a Black Swan events on their register unto. Some folks in inbound were prepared for something like this, but as I said the details specific Pelletan maybe not so where technology for technology helps in that whole risk assessment on the risk assessment registration on muddling data that you have our own. What if you know what's also pledging is hampered. What if we can't physical deliver talk customers? What if we can get payment for customers so inflammation to plays a part on the customer side, but information also plays a part on the side of governments and administration, whereas we're seeing tremendous. Discourse specifically right in our own contact tracing on hold the automate something. Very recently we saw. And heard the announcements of two of the major reiver's in mobile and operating systems worth. Of Apple and Google coming together to actually creates this framework. On software infrastructure that allows for If you know it automated contact Theresa and Preparation for for for a pandemic are are black swan event. I'm using the risk restores. Information Technology. Spans into in the dissemination of information. Allowing teams to be able to collaborate our own. Preparedness. Here in Jamaica. Let's let's look at a specific situation our own. BPL industry you know because not sports has been topical. It has been in news. I'm, so we're. A huge percentage of contact, snow and positive cases emanated of of one specific cluster using guitarist. and. If we had certain types of. Technology applied on in place one that I've that spread it would have been drastically reduced if the right collaboration on the right information, a dissemination was carried out on of course is discipline of the folks. Actually he'd he'd advice right so. The role of Information Systems in general is I think globally spun spun so many areas of pandemic preparedness those are the few Batman. And so what is very clear? Is that proper? What if scenarios needs to be done? Those analyses needs to be done in while you cannot ever prepare for specific situation to what see, but having you know those those scenarios in place doing those what if scenarios can help us to mitigates against effects. Correct correct on. Also depending. On which end of the spectrum you are as a constituent in all of this, so are you looking at it from a? Governance standpoint. Are you part of policy making our own? Risk reduction looking at funding. Are you part of the healthcare system, are you? Are you just a customer? Are you just end user wear Unin ecosystem? Are you with respectable funding preparation are in of disaster preparation. On so you know the the the the car touch points a spot at ecosystem information to. A tremendous amount, but the KIKI, thing is, is communication an instant verification of information, because one of the big things that's as we all seen unheard over. The US for five years is a new term. That new fake news on. Being able to figure out what is real, what is fake on ensuring that? Awa- constituents. Everyone. WHO's ecosystem is connected to? Accurate sources we are getting information from accurate sources. In your mind hoed. Do you think technology will will change after this whole covid? Nineteen pandemic is over I mean we've seen his old can help us to prepare an and so on, and we're going to look at what has obtained. No hope people have been drastically changing the way they do business, but. I guess with that mind. We can also look at how technology to change, and we can start to talk about some of the changes that we've already seen that. We're already seeing right now. Let's look at one specific application. Let's got zone. Last year. The information coming from zoom indicates that their average daily in the December timeframe us as was in the region of ten million. In the middle of March the data that they sent out to the public indicates that day within that three month period it daily usage went up to two hundred million. So. That one application alone. The use cases that they've had to prepare for so many things that. Maybe a month and a half of it two months ago. In my role at the advice customers at what technologies us to make communication, so of course in my deep research are on zoom. To the all. zoom bombing issue on issues with security with respect to zoom on softwares item make recommendations to all my costumers use Microsoft teams with as I was doing all of the that research. I saw the changes that zoom. Made from the beginning of win grow has decision deemed the covid nineteen pandemic on March eleventh. All the protocols that. Night that global government started putting this. Of course. People were working remotely in droves. Of Zuma's wanted to his that had to be. Adopted on, get used on very quickly by everybody. So the changes that that one that one application alone made mainly in the era of privacy unsecurity. So, one area of change is our own privacy unsecurity. When folks are working in their organizations and in their offices. Are almost clothe by the organization's it. Security protection. And, so there's a comfort in knowing that. You are within A. Schema protection however know that you're working remotely. We are not that comfortable in the more so here. All these other things that has to happen with respect to. The software that they're using so for us. One of the recommendations that we make daughter will costumers is switched on multi two factor authentication on the strengthening passwords on of course, ensuring that the connectivity between you officer you on the Internet is secure, so that's VPN's and corruption says a whole host of things that no. Some folks used to have it as additional. Software additional work that somebody somebody s how to do. A lot of technology no have to build that in to ensure that their applications are chosen over another applications because they can prove that it is not safe if you look at. All. The changes that go back to the first example zoom has made over the last two months. It is I. Mean they're thrown? Throwing resources on an People time money to ensure that they've built about the confidence that was lost in their platform because all the big. Government allegiances. Jumped off the platform as soon as A lot of these security loopholes were discovered on privacy. Leakages were discovered, so they've been working on a seriously to ensure that it You know call those holes and tried to be about that confidence, so that's up a big era of change. I disagree on Privacy. OUGHTA airs of change are who will. Not Technology, but Does that you know your question? Withhold with technology to change to change change in. My wife and I had this discussion just this week about. The readiness of oil. Senior folks were talking about over family members who are not seen. On the whole, there had to try to adopt. And adapt until this hyper use of technology to everything. So. Some of Oh folks. Have you know gotten you still pampering that? Some, supermarkets give them so for example folks who turn up the supermarket to have their resident packers already have half of their supermarket supplies already packed. Up One, Percent Underway. and. You? Know, it's not being unloaded anymore. Because the supermarket, no hostile prophesized that system systemized that soda. All your customers get that same treatment. So what's been happening? No, if I know setup an APP or set up. A fall. Mets emailed in Unsa folks who divide the. CEELO identify fall on email are sending knitting latte. They just call up their your favorite. Or favourite, yeah, whatever role the person's and have them set the perfect thing for them because they know the brands. No, no, we have to win Hunan Hunan! More people asking for service know. How do we know? Use Technology to ensure that more people can have access to that service so change there. and. These are very simplicity into basic changes. Music examples because. Today. Today la date is going to be but. There was a pathan that was. Organized by. Large Commercial Bank and Innovation Organization here recently and one of the things that had to happen as part of the. Deal. Preparing for this huckaphony his some problem statements from all the sponsors and I wear had several organizations that response responses I sat on the call with you know. The technology mini started Oliveros, Expenses and there are lots of use case problem statements by everyone from the Jamaica Constabulary Force all the way to private ticked organization, of Jamaica so bank National Commercial Bank that. That outlines needs that people have knowing that all of a sudden. No more than certain. Does supermarkets anymore. No more than the people in Ghana Banking Hall no more than a certain amount of people can. Can. Folks over sixty five, not a lot of places anymore so hard. They're going to get your services is a firm of that problem statements that were opposed to these hackers to cope with solutions indication massive. Right I want to say. We're mature either in Jamaica Limited. Onboard several years on. Thirty. Overseas nuts you. Learning Organization provides provide solutions to the government of Jamaica mended a minister of Education, our own digitizing in the delivery of indications to its students and provide the tools for the teach us to deliver that education, so we are the inbetween partner. We are the customer of the Ministry of Education we are the the ones that help to come up with the concepts and ideas of. What knobs are going to go into the schools, what? Technologies that were recommended. Teach us to use what. Labs we are installing and implementing. Our team goes on and on work. It's a rabbi Jewish in right now where? I've had years of labs in schools are more recent project with it was. A top in school. Initiative where we had. Relied on a pilot, a number of elected run going to fool delivery of that solution right now and. There is a big up until one of the big gaps right now is not enough. People have doublets because the project wasn't fully rolled out, the despondent appeared. And then for the few that have technology access. Not all the teachers have the ability on understanding of hall to. Use, the technology to deliver their curriculum so this massive gap between the teaching and learning, and we have to figure out ways so talkable a change. The era of education is going to be. Massively, change on of course last, but not least is is is a use of real estate, because of number of us have had to work from home recently, so we do have a situation where all of a sudden realizing that do we really need all of his real estate that will have been paying for or been clamoring because. Some of US including migrants we know realize that the use of technology. Especially Technology that we deliver the services. NOT DOES IT technology that we're using to use or turn productivity in office, but the technologies that ray was to deliver or services all them. All of a sudden we are realizing that we have increased productivity. Headedness can increase productivity with a problem resolution, so those are some of the changes that we are experiencing. The inauguration took on a number of folks that I've spoken to so. I will we have enough discourse discussion our own technology with change. Your son wholesome diagnosed with change. We certainly have and at this time Chris I'm going to ask you just to wrap up with your final thoughts about You know this whole it information technology services systems pandemic, and after you've done that, please feel free to share your contact information hole. Might my community members get in touch with you saw? The future digital future been talking about I've been talking about fault. Wild that digital future is now on the quotation you're rate at the top of the of the discussion. Was Ever a time interesting? Enough I have in front of me a book that dug up book. That is nine hundred years ago by the person that made a quotation book Avin. Front Amis be uh a business at the speed of thought. Is. One of the things I went through is that I winced chapter on government talking about government to the people. In some re I'm saying is that digital future is right now on a number of organizations that have been talking to digital transformation projects that have been languishing over the last two to three years have a fair amount of them. They have all happened in the last three months. So you know as they always. Saying was where there's a will. There's a way right. Right on, so a massive will has come across everyone. not country by them. Because for the first time in our entire history, we've had one situation affecting the entire peoples of the earth in the same way, the very same dime on, we have all the communication in front of us that we're seeing unexperienced in what's going on at the same time and so. The beauty is that we get. Anything that this beauty, but what can look to folks who, for example, a one China which has grown zero? What are they doing? No, so we can make decisions are on what lessons learning from that, and not to waste those lessons, and so that digital future is not. For anyone, who adult has to still hold information technology can help with that doesn't general. It are the broader of the broader umbrella of information communication technology of ICT. We definitely see that without that. We would not have been able to maintain some semblance of chronic connectivity of communication that our team was of continuous collaboration. I'm helping customers right now. run multiple. Board me everything using up applications that Microsoft teams got us what that's. That's that's. That's a preferred up for also Microsoft representative here Jamaica, and so yes, not the high level that digital futures. And Weekend the phone at all China's online, so of t-tech level website level of wwl DOT COM Jim on we are on instagram. facebook linked in on. Twitter although I'm not a big to the person. that. Yeah. It's again what being working in digital for. Over thirty years. You look at these methods of communication common. Go on, choose what you're going to work with going to work with on I'm not up big to the person I am on dial glimpse. No wonder what hey. Enough I no more for me. All right, thank you so much. Chris the record. Christopher record it has been a pleasure. You've shared a mouthful with us. I'm sure Mike. Community is more informed and they look forward to even connecting with you. Learn more about what he's doing on what you're doing as well 'cause. You're doing amazing stuff as well. Playing a great role in the Jamaican Society, so thank you for the work that you do. Thank you very much for the work that you do and I've Listen to a number of your of your gus on very very informative Congratulate you on your global reach a number of the speakers. Have be able to have a guest as while you know. Annika reached somebody's guys. I mean some of my favorites. That cassette on said Gordon. These guys amazing of so keep doing what you're doing and keep lifting the level and keep using all of your digital transformation tools to communicate unless. Jamaican to the next level. Thank you so much, Hamad. And thank you. Might people formal, but tuning into this episode with risk record I really look forward to connecting with next week and I. Want to remind you that my latest book podcast. The quickstart guide to launching and labeling of your brand is available on Amazon. Available in friend in. Print copy as as kindle, so if you just want to get the Iraqi person. Are you wanted to, can you? Whatever Amazon and find it or you can go to. His DOT com. Is it you? Know this. Guy Teaches. Why you need to start a podcast, no. One finding guests we. Took plenty. To Brian just so. We'll get your copy known. And I want to close the point of. This particular season. Before so here's my. God. All joint. Charleston him so that you overflow cope the co-op. The Holy Spirit Room in. Verse Thirteen. Thank you tuning in share this episode. If it means something, you find value in it, share it and forthcoming with you again. What good!
Folktales Week Jamaica Night (1-8-2020)
"Welcome back it's time for more chompers your morning and night tooth brushing show start brushing on the top of your mouth on one side and brush. There's Paul the way back to your molars three. Why it's Folktales Folktales Week. And today we're hearing a story from Jamaica about enunciate the spider. Nancy had this great idea to collect. Act All of the common sense in the world and put it in a pot but then he started to worry. What would happen if the pot was stolen announced. He was going to have out to protect his pot so we tied a rope around the pot and slung it in front of himself and look for the tallest hardest to climb tree. Switzer brushing to the other side of the top of your mouth but don't brush too hard using using all eight of his legs. NON-C began to climb the tree. This whole thing was harder than he planned the pot with heavy and it was swinging in front of him like a big awkward necklace and then a Nazi heard something strange. It sounded like laughing a Nazi turned to look down nearly lost his grip on the tree but then he saw where the laugh was coming from from a little kid switched rushing to the bottom of your mouth keep on brushing. Little kids shouted up to him. Pay a Nancy. This is so silly if you WANNA climb this tree while you hang the pot behind you instead of in front of you. You're making it way harder than it needs to be now on the one hand a lot of sense but on the other hand it made announcing angry he thought he'd collected all the common sense and put it in this pot but here he was getting told how to do something a little kid. Clearly he had missed some common sense switcher brushing to the other side of the bottom bottom of your mouth and brushed the inside outside and chewing side of each to a Nazi began to shuffle around and try to move the pot behind his back but as he did did he dropped it. The Pot broke into a zillion pieces with all of the common sense way. It tumbled Downhill Hill and got caught in a gust of wind. Blew and Zillion directions blue all over the world. Everyone got a little bit. And that's why you have some and I have some but no one has it all. That's the choppers tonight until tomorrow to chompers production of Gimblett media.
Genghis Khan Pt. 1: Mongolia
"Twelfth Century Mongolia the blistering winds of the steps howled over soldiers on horseback. The infantry unit kicked up powder from the heavy snow down the road a dimly lit camp and an overdue. Come up at the head of the pack was nineteen year old Temesan or as history. Infamously remembers him. Ganga's CON Temesan slid an Arrow into his boast ring taking mental note of the centuries when he saw his wife bore today. She was preparing stew for a camp of enemy soldiers. It had been a year since he laid eyes on his beautiful bride. She had been kidnapped when this same band of raiders attacked their camp boar taste. Kidnappers were cunning nomads. And difficult to track. This was the closest damage in had been to a rescue as he considered a target. He couldn't help but notice a bump protruding from his wife's abdomen before Temesan could process it. An Errand Arrow found his horse. Temesan fell and lost his bow. Suddenly a volley of arrows met his posse. This wasn't the plan they're surprised night. Raid was falling apart before it even started. Temesan scrambled to find his footing when a hand pulled him to safety he locked eyes with Jim. Uka His Blood Brother and CO CONSPIRATOR JAMAICA. Toss Temesan his bow. The blood brothers entered the camp united. Come hell or high water. They were bringing tensions wife home safely and then they were going to bring order back to the Mongolian plateau or at least. That was the plan tonight. They had each other's backs. But in a few short years their tribes would become sworn enemies the outcome of this raid would propel Temesan from a lowly nomad determined to rescue his kidnapped wife to Genghis Kahn. The man responsible for one of the bloodiest genocides in human history. Welcome to dictators a podcast original. I'm Richard and I'm kate on this show. We're going deep into the minds of some of history's most hated despots in this season were exploring the lives of three medieval era dictators. Ivan the Terrible Genghis Khan and vlad the impaler. You can find all episodes of dictators and all other park asked originals for free on spotify to stream dictators for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type dictators in the search bar at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network today where chronicling the life of our second medieval dictator Genghis Khan from his early nomadic life in Mongolia through his desperate teenage years to his rise as the man whose army conquered most of Eurasia finally. We'll unpack his feud with Juca Uka. The friend turned rival. Who stood between him and the future of Eurasia next week we'll examine Genghis Khan's era of brutal dictatorship and his fall from power will investigate how his policies led to the genocide of millions wrought disparate trade interests to the Silk Road and how his lasting impact expanded cultural ties between East and West when historians discuss consequential conquerors. None had the same unquenchable thirst for destruction as today's subject in his lifetime. Genghis Khan conquered four million eight hundred sixty thousand square miles more than any other ruler in history historians estimate that somewhere around forty million people were killed under Genghis Khan's reign and his wrath was not confined to Asia nearly three fourths of modern day. Iran's population was decimated after his invasion of the Karez me and empire when the dust of Khan's conquests had settled. He likely reduced the world's population by a resounding eleven percent his legacy as a sadistic ruler with little regard for human life was cemented but like previous dictators in our series. His legacy remains complicated. The sides his military accolades Genghis Khan brought modern advancements to the Mongol Empire. He created one of the first. International male systems supervised the adoption of an official writing system and encouraged religious tolerance. His Empire Zenith Genghis Khan reigned over the most ethnically and culturally diverse melting pots. In the world in an era of aristocracy. He promoted meritocracy among his subjects today. He's regarded as the founding father of Mongolia. While many humorously referred to the conqueror as a relative due to the sheer volume of children. He fathered how did this uneducated man with weak ties to religious or political nobility conquer unite and cultivate the largest land empire in history for that. We must journey to Twelfth Century Northeast Asia Mongolia and northern China or in a period of momentous upheaval. The Chinese golden kings of the church in tribe also known as the Jin Dynasty had just overthrown the unpopular loud dynasty. The Lao Dynasty had ruled over present day northern and northeast China Mongolia and portions of the Russian Far East and North Korea as the region recovered. The golden kings were eager to plug any power vacuum. The Lao dynasty had left in. Its wake in eleven sixty seven. They set their sights on particularly unruly group. The Comic Mongol Confederation Confederation was a major tribal coalition on the Mongolian plateau. Each tribe answered to their respective Kahn or ruler. The Golden King's problems with the confederation were twofold on one hand. There was the legacy of distrust between the two parties brought on by years of battle the other issue was prejudiced against the Mongol people. Mongo's on the step were essentially illiterate and shared little cultural commonality with their city dwelling Chinese neighbors. They were considered underdeveloped to the wealthy subjects of the Golden Kings. The Mongols also did not appreciate their neighbors. But for different reasons there roads were unfairly taxed and policed by the golden kings the encroachment led to a skirmish against the church in Jin armies. This was the era nine year. Old Genghis Khan born Tim. Egyn found himself in his father. Suji was a lesser chieftain in the Confederation and determined to make peace between his tribesmen and their new Chinese overlords rectifying the rampant inequality was a tall order for the chieftain ruling required an iron heart and a degree of political aptitude. Many didn't possess. It was a difficult leadership position with a revolving door of short tempered. Naysayers Yogi wasn't interested in further division. He believed that forming alliances through marriage was the key to peace. The conventional thinking. Being family was less likely to spill their own blood. This is why John was set to marry bore. Tei a young woman from a rival tribe but nine year old. Temesan wasn't eager to wed. His interest was elsewhere. Other boys in his tribe Temesan was drawn to adventure adeptness in hunting combat and horseback riding was expected of a young man his age. Timoci and trained under the tribal elders. Many of whom are friends of his father? They Heroin Tales of battles won and lost and never forgotten of military strategies adopted by their ancestors and their enemies. The stories enthralled. The curious boy was fascinated by history and the battle scars that came with it. It frustrated him that the elder shared their wisdom sparingly. He just couldn't get enough skill. An information were invaluable trade secrets on the step. The more temin commanded the more capable. He could be to rule his future subjects and the more attractive to his new bride. Why were the elders Koi to share more with Temesan? We'll never know for sure but maybe they saw early on what he was capable of. Tragically Youssou Geeze. Plan for peace wasn't realized in his lifetime. Shortly after Timmons Betrothal. His father was murdered. Poisoned by members of an enemy tribe. The tragedy would end images short but fragile life. The young boy was heartbroken but he knew what was expected of him because of the story shared to him by the elders he'd follow in the footsteps of other young heirs who lost their fathers to war too soon and lead. That was the way nine year. Old Temesan returned to take his father's vacant throne but he arrived too treachery. His father's tribesmen cast the child aside for an older more experienced leader. A man not a boy with the appropriate skills to lead. It was difficult for the child to comprehend. He grew up with these people. They were his friends his tribe. Where was their loyalty in? Other corners of the world class ancestry might have brought him security here. It had little value. It didn't matter whose son he was. At the end of the day he was a nine year old boy who added little meaningful value to the count it was a stinging betrayal for. Magen one that would have a lasting effect on the conqueror and the world he would inevitably mold removed from his tribe. Damaging would wander the plateau with a vengeful chip on his shoulder. He had no time to grieve for his father now. He was resigned to care for a wife. He hardly knew and a small group of individuals still loyal to his family regardless they were tiny vulnerable traveling camp to make matters worse. His Warrior Training was incomplete. He had much to learn and the stakes were high. When the time was right redemption would bring damage in back to his birthplace it gave him a singular focus especially in the difficult years ahead term. Gin and bore taes relationship was tested on the lawless roads of the step traversing. The terrain was an arduous task for the young newlyweds. But it's sharpened temesan skills as a hunter and a partner. The absence of battle allowed him the opportunity to get to know his new wife. Few historical facts survived from portes early years however as centuries passed her legend has grown like many events chronicled in today's episode. The historic context comes from the secret history of the Mongols which was compiled for Genghis Khan's family after his death. In twelve twenty seven Morte was born in eleven sixty one and was a member of the Okinawan tribe. According to Genghis Khan a biography by ZOFIA STONE. Morte was a beautiful girl with fair complexion. She had light in her face and fire in her eyes. It was these features that brought Borei attention from suitors and attracted a young Morte was also an outspoken partner. In their marriage though the Mongolian tribes of the plateau were built on rigid patriarchy did not ignore his wife's wisdom. He could be stubborn but he was no fool. History would remember Board Tae as a close advisor to Genghis Khan's empire. During their humble origins. Things were no different to survive. Teenagers were eager to find camp but finding the right tribe within the Comic Mongol Federation proved challenging. Each tribe came with their own issues and quarrels. The Federation was comprised of three prominent tribes two of which proved to be the biggest obstacle. At one time they were enemies of temptations father. Obviously they weren't interested in hosting these wayward air but with the proper persuasion. Television successfully bartered for Camp Resources. It was a bittersweet victory. The search for a stable home still proved elusive for Tim again. But crossing paths with the other tribes sharpened his skill as a powerbroker by nineteen years old. Temesan had used his political wheeling and dealing to uplift his burgeoning family for the first time in over a decade things. Were looking up but thieves had other plans under the cover of night. A group of Marauders snuck into images. Makeshift camp then. All Hell broke loose. The thieves were well trained and formidable. They found Temesan flat-footed. He fought bravely. His camp lost the upper hand. Bodies and blood spilled everywhere. It was a massacre in their chaotic. Retreat damaging escaped on horseback. But boy tae was nowhere to be found. When the dust settled tenjin discovered that his wife had been kidnapped by individuals from a rival tribe. The murky the Merck resided on the southern border of Russia their tribe liked Tama geons was a fixture of the plateau as a boy. He reportedly heard stories from his elders. About the markets ruthlessness. The tribe was notorious for their violent raids. Wife stealing and general belligerence. Neither reason nor ransom were of interest to them Reuters. Fighting back was suicide. All of ten soldiers were either dead or licking their wounds from their last. One sided battle overwhelmed by defeat. Tama Jin was at a low point. If he was going to rescue his wife he needed new man and new ideas. But from where enter Jamaica a powerful Mongol Prince and Timothy Egyptians childhood friend coming up boar taste kidnappers face their come uppance when Temesan and Jamaica arrived to liberate the Camp I- podcasters get ready for a real treat. If you enjoy stories about crime mystery and the unexplained you'll absolutely love. The new park has original series supernatural with Ashley Flowers. It's hosted by Crime Junkies Ashley. Flowers and you can hear new episodes every Wednesday. Most mysteries can be solved by looking at the facts but sometimes the facts don't lead to a logical explanation and the truth lies somewhere in the unknown in supernatural with Ashley. Flowers Ashley takes a deep dive into the strange and surreal to explain some of the world's most bizarre true crime occurrences each week. She'll dig into a different crime mystery. Where the most fitting theory isn't always the most conventional from exorcisms to unsolved murders to alien abductions. Ashley will take on. The tails challenge the unexplained and dissect the facts with heavy helping of skepticism and rationale. So are you ready to get to the bottom of history's most peculiar events? Follow supernatural with Ashley. Flowers free on spotify. Or wherever? You get your podcasts now. Back to the story in eleven eighty one nineteen year old. Temesan was reeling. His wife Worte had been kidnapped by an enemy tribe and he scrambled to assemble a posse to rescue her in his dark. Our Jim Uka. A childhood friend came to his side. History is scant with details on blood brother or Anda in Mongolian. What's known is that Jamaica was born in eleven sixty into the sub-tribe je daren. He was the son of a chieftain and crossed paths with damage in as a child likely at a trade stop between the respective tribes by eleven. Eighty one the young princes stock was on the rise Jamaica had royal ties and was expected to be a con someday. Not only that but his tribe was superior to John's band of misfits in many obvious ways mainly their sheer numbers. When TEMESAN RALLIED FOR NEW SOLDIERS? Jamaica was ready to ride under his old friends banner. That timing was fortuitous. But the imbalance concern image in the DAREN had no skin in this kidnapping. Why would they spill blood on board as behalf? These were reasonable concerns. But they didn't mean a thing to Jamaica he and Temesan were and does nothing would ever change that. Jamaica's sacrifice wasn't lost on Temesan. His tribe may have discarded him Jamaica. Wouldn't do the same Jim. Uca's reinforcements arrived with bows horses and rigid discipline. A typical military unit was comprised of ten soldiers. Six of the ten were cavalry archers. While the other four or heavy armor and commanded lancers the Mongols dressed their horses in La Miller plates which were small rectangular items that properly shielded their appendages. The unique armor allowed the troops to operate at speeds their medieval knight neighbors couldn't match. Temesan was impressed. You as well trained forces but he was surprised by their unorthodox. Approach to chain of command officers enjoyed an unusual level of autonomy as long as they remained loyal to their Khan and got the job done. They were given the freedom to operate any way they saw fit. Conversely if an officer failed the entire unit would be punished likely by immediate execution it was clear just and made sense to an impressionable image. There were no. Vip's on the battlefield. Each soldier lived and died by the same moves the same merits. It was a formative moment for the future conqueror after being discarded by his own tribe he was king to absorb the ways of his new brothers. Locating Portes kidnappers proved challenging following their initial attack on camp the Merck it were scattered and plotting their next raid. They had no idea who or what was coming for them. After a few close calls the kidnappers were found talmadge in armed with Andras. Bo entered the camp. The battle was a frenzy. Temesan was on a war path. Decimating camp after camp searching for bocce Soon Enough. The couple was reunited. It had been nearly nine months since they had seen each other. The move was passionate tender albeit bittersweet after being held captive and forced to wed another Merck Man. Temesan found bore tape pregnant. The timing was too close to know for certain who was the father. Timothy was devastated about the questionable paternity. The question was could. The young couples love overcome television channel. His heartbreak into butchering what remained of the camp. He massacred families oversaw. Extensive rape and pillaging at twenty years. Old Temesan had offended not only Unin tire tribe but the balance of power on the plateau. It was Cathartic victory one that would attract a lot of attention and emotion but as the fires from the raid subsided. Questions Hung like a dark cloud in a few short months. Morte would give birth to a child that might not be his ultimately temesan would accept the baby. Jucci as his own son. Considering THE SAVAGERY. That came afterward. Tim Aginst choice to treat the boy as his own. Flesh and blood regardless of paternity doubts was surprising. Perhaps Temesan came to this decision out of principle. It wasn't long ago that he was abandoned by his own tribe. Son or not. Temesan would not abandon this child. This particular wrong was one that he could right by the next year. Eleven eighty two Temesan and Jamaica's daring rescue had inspired intrigue with the Merck it in his rear window. Twenty year old. Temesan had taken his first steps in cemented his legacy of violence and with a powerful new ally in his blood brother his stock was on the rise. Which is why. Temesan and Jamaica's victory posed a pressing question who exactly would become the con of their step. The POPULIST RENEGADE WARRIOR. Temesan or the son of a noble aristocrat Jamaica Scholars Point to this formative chapter when looking for cultural insight into images political rise for kidnapping his wife. Temesan had spared his enemies. No mercy to the other tribes targeted by the market. He was greeted as a liberator but stomping out. Those loose ends brought unwanted attention from his Chinese overlords. The Mongol Confederation was trapped in a disadvantageous economic relationship with its Chinese neighbors. All of their fighting on the open. Roads disrupted Chinese trade. The golden kings feared that valuable goods would fall into barbarian hands. Something had to be done about Nomadic shepherds before it was too late to keep the party's preoccupied in eleven. Eighty two the golden kings devised a divide and rule campaign but goal was to play the Confederation Tribes Against Each Other. According to the Mongol Empire a historical encyclopedia one goal of the Golden Kings was to prevent any charismatic leader from unifying the plateau. One particular Mongol Khan was so popular that he was captured and sent to the Jin Dynasty if it succeeded the Golden King Strategy would keep the Mongols barbaric squabbles in their own backyard and away from Chinese trade routes but the meddling was unpopular and representative of a larger political problem brewing on the step rampant. Inequality THE NOMADS. Were intrigued by their neighbors luxurious products. But the city dwelling Chinese were in thrilled to trade with people they liken Barbarians Temesan used the caustic arrangement to play a populist fervor the have the shepherds attention. What would you do with it? Father had once tried unsuccessfully to unite the tribes against the Chinese overlords. Now temesan had a chance to finish what his father started. His strategy was simple. He had to get ahead of the. Golden Kings Deception and unite. Whoever was left under a new con- this would be the first test at winning over hearts and minds? Ironically tenjin believe that the way to achieve peace was through more war with the market victory at their backs. Tenjin and Jamaica used their political capital to crush any market sympathizers and admen to their populist reckoning during this period temesan would develop his script for future conquests he'd arrived with his soldiers and give his enemies choice. Either surrender and live or defend yourself and under command. These battles were one-sided romps his cavalry forces in particular were uniquely situated for victory in Mongolia. Horses were a fixture in daily life. New Soldiers had cavalry experience on day. One they easily road circles around the city dwelling Chinese soldiers from the south. This mobile advantage left Enemies confused and vulnerable and when the battles were over the horses were rotated to the fresh pastures of the defeated. Was this symbiotic. Relationship Between Horse and rider. That brought Tim. Aginst populist. Revolution to fruition. The revolution shared another key advantage. Enemies couldn't attack him in the traditional sense because there wasn't a home base he needed to defend they were nomad tribes with few structures or armories. Anchor down this allowed. Temesan subjects the freedom to grow their families without fear of theft or ruin they were tether Lewis to the ground beneath but completely connected to the man in front of them by eleven eighty four Timothy. Gin's popularity with his troops surged. He embraced their ideals. No VIP's on the battlefield and then he transferred this populist message to civilian rule. It didn't matter if you're the son of Khan or the son of a shepherd under tim again you were promoted and rewarded on merits. As long as you brought value. You could be whatever you wanted to be. It was a clear departure from the aristocratic touchstones of Wealth Century East Asia and it caused a rift between damaging and juca according to the secret history of Mongols Jamaica did not Sheraton Magicians meritocratic approach to governance. He didn't appreciate that. Temesan had attracted hordes of lower class subjects to their camp. They could only feed so many rescuing forte was something. Jamaica volunteered for but he didn't sign up for the liberation of the step he also didn't sign up to take orders from the son of deceased minor chieftain. Yogi was dead and according to Mongolian aristocratic tradition. That fact made it impossible for Temesan. Ever to rule Tama. Jin was warned in so many words to slow his role their rocky relationship went off the rails in eleven eighty six it all started with a prophecy according to the secret history of Mongols in eleven eighty. Six a mysterious Shaman. Who came to television? Jamaica's camp? The Shaman broaden urgent prophecy and requested to see the leader of the Camp Jamaica. Felt that of course. This prophecy was meant for him. He was the rightful leader. After all Jamaica invited the entire camp to the ritual to hear the Shaman. Confirm as much also in attendance. Were Temesan Worte Jucci. And their two new sons Chagas tie and Aga died. It was a spellbinding albeit forboding ritual the Shaman preached that harmony between man and nature must be adhered to Jamaica locked eyes with his blood brother if he couldn't keep tangent in line. Maybe the warnings of a Shaman could been the prophecy took an unexpected turn the Shaman described demand who would become the next great Khan of Mongolia. A man to unite all the warring tribes and bring harmony to the world. This man was a victor against the market. This man was tangent. The attendant celebrated the prophecy before this. Temesan was just a crafty statesman and shrewd military tactician. Now he was elevated by Omens Jamaica stormed out of the ceremony. He had been an ally of Timothy Jones in his darkest hour. This prophecy was a betrayal. Tim Agenda followed after him hoping to mend whatever bridge had been broken between them. The fact of the matter was Temesan had little desire to rule without his blood brother he saw Jamaica as family but tensions words fell on deaf ears. Jealousy had consumed Jim Uka as he left. He said to have given temesan. A thinly veiled warning damage in may be adored but he was no royal unfortunately for Jim Muga Temesan support amongst the Shepherds. One out in eleven eighty six twenty four year. Old Temesan was elected leader of their tribe. It ran counter to everything Jamaica understood for generations bloodline was paramount and now popularity had one out and with that popularity. Temesan was ready to bring harmony to the world. Coming up the battle between Temesan and Jamaica ignites the plateau now back to the story recently elected chieftain of his clan in eleven. Eighty six set his sights on uniting the remaining tribes of the Mongolian Steppe. He didn't give much stock to the rumors of his and his displeasure but he soon had no other choice but to confront it morte over her Jamaica making an odd comment he inquired about the location of Timothy. Jans resting quarters. The suspicious unprompted question forced Borei to confront her husband. She feared that you. Muka was bitter and plotting his downfall. Maybe it was time to cut ties with his and the warning worked following his wife's Advice. Temesan pulled away from Jamaica. It was a wise decision. The following year boar taste fears were realized in eleven eighty seven Jamaica attack timid in with an army of thirty thousand troops from Sixteen Tribes Jamaica's men caught his old friend by surprise Temesan and his forces fled scrambling to defend themselves from the onslaught as intended. Jamaica's attack prompted a crisis in leadership. The spotlight was back on the royal and many wondered what his next move would be however he handled Temesan it had to send a signal. Jamaica decided that for crossing him Temesan. Seventy captured supporters would be boiled alive. This made a massive miscalculation. In an era of wife stealing pillaging and infanticide boiling soldiers. Alive was a bridge too far. Even for Jamaica supporters. His brutality backfired and his once. Loyal soldiers switched sides to back Temesan. The end is Fisher created a power vacuum for the plateau. Some wanted to elect tim agendas con of all the Mongols others could never put their support behind the son of a minor chieftain when democracy couldn't solve the leadership question. The step erupted into a civil skirmish the war between the N. Does came to a head at the battle of Delon Ball Jute ultimately. Temesan was outmaneuvered and overwhelmed by the belligerence. He refused to surrender but victory wasn't in the cards TEMESAN had to flee. It was a humiliating defeat for the inexperienced ruler. A defeat that would cost him political capital and the lives of allies. The eight years between eleven eighty seven and eleven ninety five are somewhat of a black box intimations life. The shepherds of the step were mostly illiterate and left behind few records further. The sole account of the time was the secret history of Mongols at historical narrative written post mortem by Genghis Khan's devout followers. It begs a curious question. What was up to one theory was that? Temesan was captured and forced to serve as a mercenary for a Chinese military leader. This suggestion comes from the fact that in eleven ninety five tension returns to historical record with unfamiliar Chinese Military Tactics Operating Inside. The Chinese military would have likely introduced. Tim Agenda Vulnerabilities he would later exploit shortly after. Temesan reemerged eleven ninety five another shamans vision foretold that he would unite humanity under one kingdom reignited by the prophecy. Thirty five year old Timothy. Jin was back to winning hearts and Minds Jim. Muka was not angling for a rematch. With his blood brother. He had used the past decade to consolidate power in twelve. O One thirteen tribes of the step elected him. Khan ling the universal ruler of the Comma. Mongo Federation Jim. Uca's rivalry with. Tim Again was now a distant memory. Among the tribes. Now loyal to Jamaica. Where board as former kidnappers the market the fact that his own end would realign with the men who raped his wife in sense damaging this was. Jamaica's final act of betrayal. The Conley's fate was sealed in late. Twelve Oh won a battle. Erupted BETWEEN JERRY. Muga intelligence forces it would be known as the battle of thirteen sides. It was a mobile fight. Cutting through the Altai Mountains. At the height of Winter Jamaica and his troops retreated to the foothills damage followed on horseback in close pursuit. It was a trap. Temesan was surrounded and outnumbered but his men held the line and charged the risky maneuver. Put Your Muka on his heels. Tensions cavalry flanked his blood brothers elite guards and captured Jamaica to execute mucus followers temesan employed a barbaric method known as measuring the linchpin. The men were forced to stand alongside wagon wheel if they were taller than the linchpin in the wheel. They were beheaded. The soldiers would then divide the women and young girls amongst themselves to serve as slaves as for the coddling himself damaging grappled with Mucus Fate. The two had shared a sentimental bond once before but politics and jealousy had twisted beyond recognition in the end. Temesan offered forgiveness but only if Jamaica would bend the knee Jamaica declined at this point. There was too much water under the bridge for him. He said there was room for only one son in the sky by twelve o one his son had set since he was a Mongol prince he demanded to give him a royal death. It meant taking his life without spilling blood. Damaging agreed to his anders. Lastly a group of soldiers broke Jamaica's back effectively ending the rivalry five years later in twelve. O Six Temesan was elected leader of the Comma Mongol Federation from this point forward he was Genghis Khan free of Jamaica. Genghis Khan was able to quickly unify the remaining tribes ending a long chapter of petty tribal infighting. Now Genghis Khan commanded all the pieces necessary for an offensive war machine. His sons were of military age and ready to be loyal generals. He supervised a burgeoning spy network in part to. We'll unpack how. Even the weather was uniquely. In the dictators favor Genghis Khan sites were beyond the plateau now. His subjects were growing in number and needed suitable permanent fortifications to call home as his armies spent more time abroad. Genghis Khan realized there was a whole lot more to empire-building than raiding and pillaging by twelve. O six the rulers bloodthirsty had yet to be quenched in order for his empire to grow beyond the Mongolian Steppe. Millions would suffer. Thanks for listening to dictators in next week's episode examine Genghis Khan's era of brutal dictatorship and his fall from power. You can find all episodes of dictators. And all other podcast originals. For Free on spotify not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music? But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite park asked originals like dictators for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream dictators on spotify. Just open the APP and type dictators in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you. Next time dictators was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original. It is executive produced by Max Cutler. Sound design by Kerry Murphy With Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden Travis. Clark and Paul Moller. This episode of dictators was written by Brandon. Willer with writing assistance by Kate. Gallagher and stars Kate Leonard and Richard Rosner high listeners. Don't forget to check out the fantastic new podcast. Original series supernatural with Ashley. Flowers every Wednesday. Take a deep dive into the strange and surreal to find the truth behind some of the world's most bizarre true crime occurrences. I think you'll really enjoy it. Search for supernatural with Ashley Flowers in the spotify APP and listened free today.
Caught Offside: USWNT preview and USMNT real time reaction
"Caught offside with Edry gumming and. JJ. Davani. Offside from the Upper West side of Manhattan, Andrew gun link. JJ davani. What's up brother? I'm okay. I was a bit concerned. When I got into the studio this evening to see you staring wishfully out the window. I was on the phone, and that's my phone spot. Okay. Looks like your side deep in contemplation, almost like the words, I live. I live deepen contemplates. Sure. But the words of Christian Erickson had to well, it'd be I didn't need that. You've been reflecting on the weekend because I do feel as if you're your emotional support group, were our listeners a the not a watch party watch party. Right. The Harry lemon. I'm once they were gone, and couldn't serve you liquor anymore. I mean Andrea from North Carolina was almost like I know a personal support liquor guy for you. You're right. And then like it was a good place to be after having lost a game like that, despite the fact that it was a lot of Liverpool fans. A lot of Spurs fans there, which is like it's important because misery loves company, and, and the last few days, you had a chance to reflect in in solitary confinement. And, and you lean on the things that, that help you through like, you know, so American soccer fans of teams that play in Europe. You have to find your own community. It's not like when I'm an eagles fan in Philadelphia. Open my front door. And I'm among my people as Tottenham fan, like I know Spurs fans are out there in force in this country. But you gotta, you gotta find a way to build your community. And podcasting is, is everything. Sure, so you listen to the podcasts of your guys talking about it, and like, you know, that's. To feel that community. I'm sure you've been going Liverpool crazy in the same way talking to people and listening to stuff Liverpool content. My father who's on vacation in in lovely dairy today. Tax migos the weather's not great hair. But white, what does it matter? When you're the champions of Europe, that was the takes point. Yeah. Also, it's in terms of podcast. It's downloadable therapy. Now, I would say you surely must have been lifted by that, excellent performance by the US under twenty's yesterday. It's amazing now. Look, nothing is going to in the immediacy is gonna like make up for, for Spurs losing Champions League final, but it is amazing house is like all right back at it. There's no like that was the end of the club season. And in any other like walk of life. There's now a break of some kind not for us. It's like I'm looking at my run down here of everything. We're gonna talk about tonight and it's, it's. Like in the summer it only especially here in the US where the international game is the game kind of. Yeah. No, no offense MLS but I'm just offense book, but, you know, how US soccer is it's the show. So, like, there's, there's really a shocking amount to talk about that was at the start of the podcast, the third, the winning goal that you heard there for the US under twenty's as day surprise really surprised France in, in an awesome game, which we'll talk about. We also are obviously going to talk about the women's World Cup. Because I, I believe this will be our final podcast before the US is first game. So we have a little look forward. Yep. We've selected some contenders. We're gonna talk about the US women obviously, although I'm at the point where I need them to kick a ball in anger in this tournament before I can make any more judgments on the know. And also, we look at a dark horses, we selected our own individual dark horses. My dark horse, not going to tell you what it is yet, but it's a team that even if you don't think they're gonna go far in this tournament or go to the final or win it their most watch. And then I'll tease this straight out right now because. I know if people come to us for this kind of thing, but I wanna make sure people know that we are going to address it. My red card tonight is the name our situation because I feel like it's the thing that, that bears mentioning and, you know, I there's like weird complexities to it. And it's something that I feel like we gotta talk about. So you'll be right now if they if you're really, if like you're downloading this for that, then you can fast forward right now, because you can I can guarantee you that will be on the podcast later. Okay. But we start JJ with all the USA stuff because they're so much of it. No. So we're sitting here right now. It's eight oh, seven eastern time. The US in Jamaica men are at the half. Currently. It's nil nil. So I figure this would be kinda cool for us to almost just give a running commentary, as we're going through the podcast. We have the game on two monitors right in front of us where we can just sort of give live commentary on the podcast of what we're seeing I'll say this. From what we saw in the first half, not good. It was a truly disconcerting performance in a way that I don't I don't necessarily know we've seen so far under bear halter. They've had some games where it's been shaky at times, but not like this Zach, Stephan didn't look great. Almost caught out for an attempt from midfield for Jamaica, had another one that he flubbed that almost created another scoring chance for Jamaica, if Jamaica were just like a little bit more. What's the right where I was gonna say competent around goal that feels a little bit harsh but yeah, essentially, then this, the US could be in a real hole right now in the US wasted some chances of their own? What is good job to that? It's one and just Dorf. It's probably two way until Dorf. So there's probably no chance that the. Brains trust. They are watching this on Seoul after Stephen's move. His loan move from his. Yeah. Yeah. To desseldorf. So they're about to kick off the second half right now. So we obviously are going to keep one eye on that. And we will just twenty plus about the you twenty s because that was such a fun, such a fun game from them. And I wanted to ask you right out of the gate about it because I saw you had not a back and forth. But you responded to one of my favorite US. Soccer Twitter accounts, Arthur, Cogan. He's great. And you his assessment was that the US not only was it like a fun win. But they deserved it because they really took it to a what we would say is probably a better French team. Yes. At times throughout that game. But you took exception with some of that. No, no, no. I just taught E ON and to be fair to Arthur did clarify, what he meant pheasant the second half. And particularly after the second goal after France went to one up the US played with bit more abandoned. I didn't think they. Dominate France by any measure. In fact, there was a period when I thought France, we're going to pull away particularly in the at the start of the second half. But this was the perfect blend of what the US is that French team has players like diabe, who was twenty five appearances for PS g senior, you know, their first team, they've got zag do who. All right. Maybe not didn't have a great time Russia Dortmund, but it was starting for them for a period during the bonus season. There's a lot of US players that aren't at that stage yet. And this is a French team dot is better than these US tame. But what does US team did was marry two things that are absolutely crucial Andre? If you look at the goals, look at the opener, it's a turnover on its grit run by at the desma, and then a perfectly weighted pass. So that is marrying commitment, unskilled together. And that's what all those US goals war. No, they got a lot of look on the winner. But if you watch the lead up to it we're winning our tackles. If you watch the lead up to the equalizer. On that wonderful piece of skill from way to slide in social. Again, we're winning our tackles actor had an ex g graph, which I, I mean said that France had magically the better ex expected goals. But I mean, on the preponderance of chances, I thought it was pretty even to be fair. I taught France were. Less of a team, then our team were less less cohesive less committed on look, I'm gonna play a cook from Julian Ron know who kind of backs up what I'm saying here. It is not an insult in the international game to be, you know, nobody's patting you on the head and say, no, you're grittier more of a team we have in this site, a nice marriage of skill way assault. The desma on a nice, kind of complement of the classic things that we socio what you a soccer, which is never giving up grittiness gaudiness on, I think this is what Julian speaks to a love that phone three of Conrad. La Fuente Tim way, I'm and so two. Depend really, well, you saw you saw on the to go and especially the movement of the boat through the I thought the intent. And again, just to come on my last point, the men quantity for the US team, togetherness and the father fight. Each other and play for each other. And the level is a key part of what you can offer. It totally is, I'm always going on about the Liverpool midfield. It's not the most creative midfield in the world. But it wins it's tackles and gets the ball to the players who can do the dangerous things. There's nothing wrong with that. But the idea that we, you know, we pass them off the pack in, in the traditional sense of dominating team, simply isn't true. There are still some failings there. Look at the goal we gave way for the equalizer right before halftime. Like the ball is coming to the left. Cited para can't remember who it was right. No doesn't really matter. And he just shanks it gives it straight back. He's out a position on the French are in our goalkeeper comes out leaves the whole goal open instead of just banking on his defender closing angle. And there we are. It's one in the flash of a night. This French team are, are much more experienced. We still have that naievety that's gonna make teams you know, you're still going to concede to goals like the French promise. Great gritty performance married with the skill needed to be. Team like France. No problem saying that. And you know there were moments throughout that, like, really exemplified. What you're talking about exact marriage, even the third goal like you said there, you know, it took some, some luck like it was poor goalkeeping back in the ninety something or the eighty something bomb and forward to blast one but e-, but like you say in the build up like a great ball. Who was it was at Linas, who came in who played a great ball, and then palm Cole was kinda slow to react? But still the grittiness announce a fifty fifty he wins it correct. You know. And then we, then we see again. Okay. So now a blast from about thirty yards out. It's blocked but there's was way, who then collected the that one and then fired his own shot on target. And then like more grittiness Renick's never gives up on the play. He's right there to pounce doesn't get the keeper a chance to to grab that rebound. So, you know you saw that throughout and you need that international levels, not the highest level of football guys. That's not even the highest level of football. Those guys will have played this year. I'm saying that right now. You could see it with the French they're not cohesive. They're not a union. They played like individuals. Our guys were much better to drill Tab Ramos deserve credit for that takes a lot of flack he deserves some credit here. And, you know, we have to say I mean we've spoken this long about it without really talking about the performance from Sebastian Soto. Who was he was fantastic? He's the best player falling over to finish ball that I've ever seen. You're right his first goal. Her son like a diving curler put bulk goals. But what's, what he's trying to do is open up his body's quite correctly, so he can find the fire corner an Andrew. He did it every time. And the second one I thought I thought his first touch one way, a play at him in which was the bodies wave of way on the outside of the foot pass. If you're Celtic fan watching that you're absolutely spitting fire at NEA Lennon for the way this kid was treated. He is on get your checkbook out. A good coach will make him into a brilliant player sold it. They right place, right, time bit of goosey, I touch, but it actually brought him in front of the French defender. On in classic fashion falls over as he finishes. But he's an excellent finisher from what we've seen so far. Just a good bunch of guys. Now I'm about to temporal not can do this very quickly. If Bobby warshaw. Yeah. Bobby show that soccer. Yeah. Earnest young man of MLS as I as I described him. He painted Nexen blog piece about this. Current u twenty team and the previous psychos that reached quarter finals and challenge the general view that, that automatically bay, the fact of its almost exclusive European base excetera are not. It's not European-based, but obviously that it doesn't have a US college base at all. It's all over pro base, that this team is an indicate or the vast drives, you a soccer's mid one of his opinions that rang true to me was this, the idea that recent u twenty World Cup results. Make some sweet sweeping statement about the state of soccer in the country is precarious not to mention the question about whether you twenty World Cup results matter at all. Like what do mean you always say, we want our guys plan I football. Can we go wherever they are? We're just the current gap in perception happen. Then it seems to me that there. Two big things that play huge role look at how many team teenagers we have New York right now. Maybe the fact that more players on the current U US under twenty team play in Europe than than ever before Carlisle, declare quality. Maybe Alex Mendez Richie Desmond Sebastian soda who play for Freiburg PSV and Hanover. Respectively are better than failed. Hiber question star just who played at UCLA Seton Hall, and Clemson, heading into the World Cup are maybe the world is more globalized, now, maybe European team spend more on scouting and people travel more does the number of European players in does the number of players in your in Europe indicated change in player quality aren't change in the way, the world works, right? Like it's hard to me to say right now that any of those players are automatically going to have a better career the benefit harbor, Sasha question hot registered. We need to ran it in bit as well. You know, we've had three very good cycles before at u twenty level. Getting quarterfinals. I get what you're saying. However, like you're right. You can't predict if the desma will be. Don't. You're right. But, but you have to say, though, that this is now what we've wanted US soccer to be. Yes, are the track that these guys are on will hopefully get them to a higher level quicker. Yes. Look, it's not gonna be the case for all of them. But I think these, you twenty World Cups are to try to identify a couple guys that could make a real impact quickly like the World Cup qualifying cycles going to start soon. And these guys when the next world, couples around, many of them will be in their early part of their prime age wise. So you'll you'll see some of these guys like I thought Chris Richards in an area right now in central defence for the US that is, it's up for grabs, like, we think we're identifying certain young players like meows, go who will make an impact may be Carter Vickers. But it's upper grabs right now, especially if John Brooks can't stay healthy so all Richard's, playing well and his move to Germany, like these are these are good signs for this young team right now. The right culture that you're trying to build. Yeah, I just think you know, we should be excited about it, but. We shouldn't go over the top with it. Because we we have been here before. Yeah. But that was interesting. What you read 'cause I, I understand a lot of that because he that is what it's just what we've wanted to see from the US, and it's coming to fruition guys who are playing professionally younger rather than playing in a lower level, which is really what college is. Sure. You just want like me. You always say we I think any team that came in for Christian, pulisic, we wanted to make sure that he was going to be playing weakened weak. Oh dot remains the case. By the way, I don't know if you were just watching, but I think it was well trap who just had a terrible giveaway in an awful spot for the US led to a two on one for Jamaica couldn't tell who it was. But the shot was put on that it was safe nicely. But had had a pass made could have been one on one with the keeper. It was I think if it wasn't, we'll trap people will know by now. I'm sure who it was. I thought it was him. But yes is every time I look over, I I'm just like not seeing good things happening. Yeah. We're approaching the hour and it's still in the I mean this game look alternately. This is not look at the. Quad that's out there tonight. This team was not necessarily put out there to win this game. They're put out there. Forbear halter to try to figure out who's going to be on the rest, who's gonna fill out this roster know how many guys who started tonight will be starting the first game of the Gold Cup. But maybe Paul Arriola I don't know, maybe miata maybe maybe sergeant you think I don't think so that was surprise me likes them. He wants to get him. I think I think he'll make the squad. But he's I don't think he'll be starting the first game. I think that's still Josie outdoor spot. But I think he can well we're going to get into inaccurate noble positions, but I think he complained a different position just off the strike. He doesn't have to be interesting. Revolutionary even. Oh my goodness. Oh Lord, almost just curled one in from about twenty out. You can watch box sports one right now time. I look over man. It's just like Jamaica. They're doing something, they're generating saving going. They've been good much-maligned on this podcast. Jamaica, I remember getting emails, not so long ago truck don't talk about them enough. And when we do say, we should beat them off time, you gotta give me this oppor-. Yeah. You, you haven't learned the lessons of past are Airlie. All right, JJ. Let's start talking now about the women's World Cup because it begins begins this Friday where the home nation. France will kick things off against South Korea. I believe let's start with the US are women in action. Coming up next Tuesday, we have it, broken down into a couple of different categories here. The first one being who is your key player for this team. And this is such a difficult question to ask, because there's so many like they're all keep there's so many great players are so many timeless dairy player for me. I've been consistent with this one. I wonder if we say the same. No, we couldn't be saying the same thing here, Meghan, repeat. Alright different. She remains thirty three the creative hope of the team at the last World Cup. She had created the most chances for the team prior to the quarterfinal win over China, which he missed and we all panicked. I remember panicking with you. How are we going to break this team down? We won't kneel in the end. But still that's the kind of creative fulcrum. She is. And I know spoke Tobin, he taken that on, but I still think that Tova needs emergence at thirty one my God. But you know what? I mean, we feel as if Tobin heath is no coming of age more, and that can happen to former players, but she's decides defacto number ten brilliant set piece deliveries. The supply line for that attack thirteen goals on seventeen assists for the US sense. Seventeen dot is just incredible production. I personally don't believe the US women's national team can retain the World Cup without her in top form. This is what she told ESPN. I don't feel like we're defending that twenty fifteen title but I think we defend everything all the time. I think we're seeing one of the most consistent teams and sort of historically one of the best teams in the world. So I feel like we're always wanting to keep the place in the world. But it feels like honestly totally different team. Obviously the ones that were there. We sort of know that we have that. But you don't get any extra points for defending anything in the. Past you need to go win. Another one, Meghan repeat for me. So I'm actually going to go with Lindsay Horon for some of the same reasons that you won't with negative repeal. No. Can I can I say if that was an ardent it will be the Horan. Well, I mean, you're the same guy who refers, the last name Mahoney is Manny, Manny. Yeah. How on coastal is costal really? I actually the other ones, I think you're crazy. But that one, I like more Costello. Yeah. Yeah. Flows better. It does flow better because maybe we're saying it right. See, I went with Lindsay haram because ultimately, you're right. Megan repeal is certainly a creative hub on the team. But she his she is certainly not the only one, I think, haram is now becoming more that player she plays more centrally Renault's typically now more out on the left side. Haram is more in the middle. And I think from what we've seen from her, it's hard to know exactly how, and WFL performances will translate into the. The women's World Cup but twenty four years old. I just feel like this could be the moment where she establishes herself as the next true. Great American player n VP of the NWF L last season. Fourteen goals letter team to the championship where they lost North Carolina. She's got the ability from midfield to control the game. She makes the attack for the US work. At least that's how it's appeared to be during their lasts. Several natch is here's what Jonathan tannin walled wrote about her in the Philadelphia Inquirer. He's I he's talking about. He says Lavelle Lavelle passing skills maker, the American's best pure number ten while harangues mix of scoring passing defensive work maker, the team's best overall player that is high praise if the US wins, it's all if the US wins it all and haram is used to her full potential, she'll become the favourite to win fica player of the year. Wow. I mentioned how she's only twenty four but really JJ she's an older twenty-four. We're talking before about young American players on the men's side now making the move straight away. To europe. You don't see that much on the women's side you did with her. She was a piece g at eighteen years old. She went up to PS g so she she may be twenty four but she's like a seasoned pro. So I think this is her moment. I really do by the way, things have happened. Jamaica have scored sweet Lord on the hour. One nil. Jamaica, I'm and you know, thankfully, you know that US soccer Twitter will react with grace, patients. Jeff Carlisle, Shomar Nicholson, with an absolute laser past Steph and that had been coming for a while, as Jamaica, his look, the more threatening side, especially this half. Yes, cosign. By the way, how would you describe Manchester are? How would you pronounce Manchester United legend? Kevin m or a n I would you says last night, ran home. God. Let's move on. Morin. I mean, what do you want me to say Mr. alga minium, we have to get Lindsay Lindsay Orrin on the show? I'm gonna talk about investigator riders passed on the on the wish pronounces her name. All right. The next question here JJ for the US woman. What is your greatest strength? The team can't keep saying this and I don't know what else I can say it's the attack yet it's comfortably the attack. I read an article today which which really stated at perfectly. The US have more attackers than they know what to do with, or that they can fit on the field rather as a better way. 'cause I'm sure jealous Norsar preferred attack. But there are spaces there were players who will sit on the bench who would start for every other country. Oh and this tournament. And by the way, not just start for them. But then that may be like the second or third best attack in turn, fright dot his house stocked. We are. So it's the attack for me on this podcast. You've heard speak ad nauseam about it. I don't know what ester is to say, I will save a little bit because we talk about weakness. His later on. And I've, I've tried to come up with something else on it maybe slightly linked to that. Okay. Yeah. I mean the US over their last five games they've scored twenty two goals. They're averaging over four goals a game heading into this competition. So that is always good. Yeah. The three that you talk about. So I mean upfront obviously Morgan in the middle and then Regina out on the left heath out on the right. But the three that can come off the bench Carli Lloyd, Mallory Pugh, Kristen press, like it's impress Kristen press, maybe not so much. Mallory Pook Pugh, because Mana refused kind of just broken in over the last few years. But Kristen press who was around in, in twenty fifteen. She must think is my chance ever gonna come to, to lead this team as goalscorer probably it's going to take few more years. Yeah. I mean, I don't know some of it may be like how many years does Meghan repeat? No have Carli Lloyd, while she is a sub she's thirty six. So this will probably be her last World Cup in have to assume JJ I'm just looking we'll get back to the us woman a sack, but I'm just looking at more reaction or what are you doing? Well, I mean, people are by the time this is out the US, Jamaica game will be over. Played poorly. So people who are downloading this podcast right now. Think that we've done some kind of USA day. Yeah, I know we have we do have to talk about it. People are going to be listening to this thing that we will. I mean, the number one fiend right now from people is just the sloppiness in possession. Our friend, Tom fits, text me, who are these guys. They can't pass fi verts. Yeah. Again, I guess the only thing that I can lean on here in the US do have another tuneup match against Venezuela before the Gold Cup actually begins. But you just have to keep telling yourself that this is not this is not the team. So for whatever freak out and panic. There's going to be in the wake of this game. You just have to remember, do you see Weston mckennie out there? I don't do see Tyler Adams. I don't see Christian pulisic, no. Like this is not. So yes, this is bad. You know, I also don't want to be patronizing to Jamaica, who have played very well in gold cups past and have been thought. In the American side. But yeah, this is just see that kind of sloppiness in possession is something that you just it's a bear, even when we have our full team out. We can't keep the ball like we'd like to so so we'll continue to watch this in the sixty fifth right now. I'm not watching it. I'm focusing. Okay. All right. Last question here for the US women. So we talk about their strength, which is for I say that it is for both of us have pretty easy question. We both agreed that it was the attack this one, I thought was really difficult identifying their biggest weakness. Yeah, I'm gonna start unsafe two things. The first one defensively. We've already said this team hasn't been stress tested defensively, and that remains the case qualifying a little bit on the road but in the Shebaa Cup not so much our issues over the fullbacks on a converted fullback, and crystal Don remain one that I pondered Andrew, I pondered Judy arts amid feeder now bushy amid. Feeler because that is your best position, or is it a means to screen that defense Gillette's aware that it's not arts going to come under duress on? They're going to need a defensive midfielder in there, allow me to add one more concern to the makes that isn't defence or goalkeeper which we spoken about before the US attack. Is it strength? But it is only scored once in its last four games on European soil. We're going to France. I two that, that Alex Morgan a goalscoring centurian scored once in the last tournament didn't have great Olympics. She have something to prove now she was playing hurt. If I can refresh correctly yet. Just saying, I'm right. Totally it's kinda hard to pick deficiencies. So, and ultimately, that's the thing is even their greatest weakness is still, it's still a position of strength is half defined picking now. So here's my thing, and I'll go to a similar area of the field that you just talked about. I'm gonna read now from Caitlyn Murray, who wrote this yahu sports, also a great book out about the US women, which I recommend but she writes that, she said the team's fullbacks are converted forward to bomb the field the center of the pitch doesn't have a stay at home. Holding midfielder, as Julia's encouraged to fly forward and my madness. The Americans undoubtedly are going to score goals, and France. That's what they're built for the question is how much they will concede in the process after all, despite everything. Jill ellison. Tried one simple. Soccer truth remains bunkering often works, that's especially true, when the defending team could be quick on the counter-attack Caitlyn Murray, Allardyce there or Caitlyn Murray, soon Haga from the way that. Has approach exactly past, but you do at points in the tournament unimportant, ornaments both men's and women's whatever grid, you do have to be pragmatic. I mean, remember what Sweden did it? It's the reason hope solo was basically kicked off the team when she call them cowards afterwards when they put ten players in front of the net she said it wasn't football. I mean like you sense, the frustration from the US, because they had a hard time breaking through, and like the worry is, you know, teams are going to do that to the US and will they will love the US forward. Like we talk about Juliet's, okay? Yeah. Maybe she's a shield for the defense, but she's also an attacker. I know. But so all the sudden are you gonna look at the middle of the field? And see no one there. And there's going to be, you know to on one opportunities on the counter if they're not careful. Yeah. We remember I think Germany Mexico is the classic counterattacking game that it was in the men's World Cup and your to center mids who are so high up the field get caught by one ball. And then the next thing you're back fours, totally exposed to central. Vendors, I'm thinking if crystal Don goals, wouldn't it be nice for earth's to slide in and fill that gap if Kelley O'Hara goals who's also hasn't played that much because of injury this season can she can Juilliard state across and do that, or at least have someone who's going to do it? That's the proper full non the proper proper football man. If he was managing this team ago, Julie what you're gonna do. You're gonna slow to cross ROY ho the dictate tempo, don't get pulled out a position, won't you know, it's sad that even when we're talking about the American team proper football man is still British. He. Yeah. But you don't want me doing American soccer voice. I really don't. It's humiliating. It's condescending and it's just mean-spirited so, yeah, that would be my biggest concern with the US, because those moments are going to happen. And it's not fair to everyone. We are making this up, though. You're right. We haven't seen it yet, but, but it's not fair. Everyone continues to be putting the spotlight on a listen. There in particular, totally unfair is unfair because she she's not another woman but because she's not hope Solel, right? But the thing that you wonder about okay? So if it's if teams are going to basically say, we have to get the US on the counter there's going to be these long ball moments where you just have to hope that if a listener she's gonna gamble if she comes running out how quick will her reaction time be. We'll she'd be first to the ballers gonna create some frightening opportunities for the opposition. You've got to say her starting position, we want to be, you know, on the edge of eighteen for a lot of the times when we dominate possession games. But again. These are concerns that are I guess we just have to wait and see. And we might not see them until the Sweden game in the group. I can't wait for it to start though it was so much fun for it was, and I do feel like it's one of those where you really grow into it. Consumes you. But you just want to start and especially with the team who are dominant in the region and team that we like that we really love this team. We know all these players, you know, this is a team that has had tremendous success in allows us actually, to be aggregate, because we are good. Right. We designed take off the electric dog collar. Right. We don't need it for this. Because we're proudly arrogant. And now on that note, let's talk about the competition. Okay. So who do you believe the US should be most worried about? I need you to have the Seinfeld drop ready to go. So I'm gonna go with France. Andrew are should I say, Olympic Lyonnais? I'm right. But seriously, France Leon is where the team. Basically, the spine of the team clones from the on the honest, where the final will be on Leon is a club are the powerbrokers of word football right now to me is crazy to look at this stock team of Champions League winners on point Anne, whereas for team that can take back the crown from the US women's national team to me. They are the top of the tree in terms of contenders. Should they both advance in the groups and win the round of sixteen a quarter-final showdown a wits? How unbelievable would that be the spine as I said of this Leon site is the strength of the French site from centre-half Wendy Renard to the best midfielder mortar football? I'm Dina NRI to usually omega front. This is a strong spine as existing in the game. And they are prolific winners four Champions League titles in a rule their home, that brings pressure, but also partisan crowds wherever they go and think, oh, France did in you. Or twenty sixteen. The men all the way to final thing, how the men did twenty years ago or twenty one years ago. Now in France. Like, so the French support will be huge for them on think about else in candidate did have the Canada was acceptable for our American outlaws. There are other challengers, who have legitimate claims to be ready to beat the ends but known ours, well-equipped are in as go to form domestically as they blew. I I couldn't look beyond them, so you're right to do. So I'm looking right now at the odds from Caesar's, right? Win the women's World Cup the US are number one at plus one seventy five France. Our number two at plus three fifty Germany are third plus six fifty. However, if you look at the five thirty eight projections, they give the US an eighteen percent chance of winning the tournament France, they actually give a twenty percent chance. They do have France ahead. And they and then Bernie Sanders firs the bronzes it while Germany. Are here Jan. Then the team that they have fourth at ten percent is, who I have. JJ England now everything you just said about Francis. Correct. Before you begin. Yeah. England or feeling themselves. I've listened to some podcasts. They are feeding themselves ritual, Yankee, their former player had this to say an eight could have been Stuart Pearce Lee Dixon are Well, Paul Merson. Maybe it could have been any of the pundits prior to a men's World Cup. It's down to the players, but they definitely there's no team out. I know Frantz of said it, but there's no team out that England should fit. I think that they can go and play against everybody else. And the, the biggest thing is that every other team knows the England can be a danger and England can be a worry. So I think that confidence in the squad. We'll, she's not she's not wrong now according to fee for world rankings, their third, so. Obviously the US and France and Germany to our great teams. But England field that they're great team to that. The last World Cup was kind of their coming out party, the third in that tournament. Who knows? I mean, they could have wound up in the final had not been for an own goal in extra-time against Japan, which was cruel. But it really was I still think there's three teams ahead of them for this, but they're in, but if they if they wind up in the semifinals, no one will be surprised just in looking at them. I guess if the women that you want to look out for look out for Nikita Paris. She recently actually moved to Leone the team that you've been going on and on about from mentioned, sorry the Champions League winners. Yeah. And I'm taking a player who is now part of that for Manchester City. Nikita pairs thirty three goals in fifty nine appearances Lucy bronze is probably viewed by many as their best player defender, who was really plays all over the place. And Steph Houten will once. Again, be the captain for the single team. They coast through qualifying with the exception of a nil. Nil draw against Wales, but I think the I think the confidence is there. I think they're returning mostly the say a lot of the same players their previous success in two thousand fifteen now like you say with France, it's on European soil. How you know, that may have helped the women for the US last time around that it was in North America that could have a similar effect for England not far trip for their fan base, and they would be a team that I would be fearful of if, if the US. France to also add Germany to. But look, I think they're good. But I'm just I don't know. There was a look you know, I'm an anglophile I but I had help but I'm also I'm in Hsun with the rhythms of English World Cup prep. And some of the little catchphrases shouldn't fear anyone things like that. So you think like the cycle? So all the stuff that happened for England's men's teams in the mid to thousands could now be like, oh, I'm not saying that, like, well, I actually think these things team is better than some of those mid two thousand seems this Englishwomen steam is better balanced bomb, just saying it's, it's interesting to me because the England men didn't they weren't able to truly succeed until there were no longer. Any expectation all the expectations are through the roof that's when they fail. You think that we could be seeing a similar thing now for the England women, the England women need to lose to Thailand or Iceland before they can really rice. And then Jay Jay, the dark horses these quite bright Hough. Is actually when I think about it, and I was listening to the BBC radio five live preview of the whims World Cup. And I was waiting and waiting to hear about the reigning European champions and awaited, and with and finally towards the end, they got a mention, and I thought, why might they be sold down the list so far down the list for discussion there, rather circuitous qualification campaign seems to have taken the dos off the fact that they romped to an outstanding European championship win in two thousand seventeen they went through a fourteen playoff for the final European Bart for the World Cups. I guess people are talking them down a bit. This team plays in the Grand Duchy traditions as wonderful team to watch from an attacking standpoint. They are the team that when the US aren't playing you need to be watching them. They'll combine pass move. Look to play between the lines. Totally enjoy before ball, some of the names, by the way, are, they are owned say household names here in America? But certainly in you. European women's football. They are leak Americans Cherie to spits, Vivianne Vivianne Medina, Daniel Vander, donc, described by one of our own spin articles as the complete McVay lurk, which is hyper is indeed. And of course, Leon's Representative Shani's van de Sandon. They're all top-class midfielder and attacking players. The they have one of the squads at the world cope with an average age of twenty five years of age, you think of where ours is trending. Why not the Iran Jay, why can't they do it? And I went back because I watched the final brilliant, finding against Denmark from twenty seventeen in the European women's championship on this was the final goal in the four to win. Tied together as me she's already schooled once today. Can she sill the deal? In the final Netherlands, champions, a seesaw finalist seem hit, full past and become quiz off your. The new queens of Europe are flying little bit under the radar for a lot of people. Well, according to Caesar's their fifth. So after England the odds for our for the Netherlands, are next I really maybe maybe uncompleted colored by the fact that they are so entertaining to watch on. Maybe the fact that they will concede goals and their cavalier and their attitude is works against them. In terms of the odds. Let's see. JJ. I went with a team that I actually mentioned already, and that is a very familiar foe for the US woman Annette is Sweden who once again, predictably are in the same group as the US because it seems to happen, every single time, really because it almost does JD US and Sweden are grouped together for the fifth straight women's World Cup and the sixth one overall. It's crazy. Now here's the thing, the US storage have a good record against weed and I think it's twenty one wins six losses. But here's the thing. They actually have a three match winless streak against Sweden, including the two thousand sixteen Olympics, where Sweden knocked the US out the earliest they've ever been knocked out in a major tournament, which in the quarter-final left, a bitter taste it really did Sweden's got experienced six players with over one hundred caps, they know how to defend against the US, which we talked about which I it may not make for the most appealing watch. However, it can be effective. They're going to defend like crazy. And if they can get the United States on the counter attack. That is a thing that could potentially happen, especially like we said, if the US are bombing everybody forward fullbacks defensive midfielders Sweden won their group, and UEFA qualifying. They lost just twice in the last year. They are a dangerous team. They shared the Algarve Cup with the Netherlands, I believe. So there is there is reason for concern. I think if you're somebody who is looking at potential dark, horses and bogey teams. For Sweden because they know the US, well, and they've played them well recently, so there you go. Those are teams to look out for. Yep. There it is. It should be fun tournament. We will, of course be doing podcasts after US game. So we'll be here on Tuesday next week to give you a podcast after the, the US and Thailand should be fun, man. My expectations are understandably high. Do you have a pick? You actually wanna make a selection now. To win this not, I don't like to to go against the US by France are gonna win. I do feel that. Well, I'm taking the US. Okay. Does that make me bad guy? No, we're supposed to be objective. And I am I can see that correlated the data and I think it's going to be France. I'm taking the US JJ maybe Scotland gonna Bramante runs final. I'm bothered that the US and France may wind up playing so early in the tournament. What depends maybe Sweden, put the fly in the Altman send a second in the group, which everyone will bemoan initially, but maybe a good way for us to advance the England Belgium. Conundrum in the men's World Cup wrecked which benefited England enormously completely. Right. Let's not go down that road. Again. No, of course not. So it's gonna be fun. We're gonna have coverage throughout the entire tournament. So please stick with us because we're going to have a great time, hopefully will who knows. We might even have more moments like this. Oh space, which came from the two thousand fifteen women's World Cup. We're in the eighty second minute. Andrew Jamaica, still leading one nil. We're going to go into a break now, though. Yep. We got plenty more to go. We've got a big mail bag coming up. We've got to what to watch for red card man of the match and our reaction to whatever continues to happen. The final moments of this US Jamaica friendly, don't go anywhere. Back now. Thank god. We didn't do a pot about this JJ during the break while we're watching the game because we don't have the volume up obvious. We're doing the show. You just kind of casually said to me. Hey, pull up the stats and let's just see what's going on. And I and I did. And at the moment, the shots, which you can't solely go off known. But kind of times it can be telling the shots were twelve to three in favor of Jamaica, four zero on target. The US have not registered shot on target up to this point in the game. This is. Like I said, in the first part, nobody panic. This is not our first team. But this is all as horrifying. I hope you got your tickets cheap for all defeating. Join disappointments onto a mail bag. Sure. Yeah. Co Axial soccer pod. Cutoffs like pot g mill dot com. Coughs ADS PIN on the Instagram gut. Another giveaway is just it is. So sloppy, you know what sloppy is your distraction on this podcast. How dare you? I'm about to do a male bike. Oh. Nobody needs to hear this. By the way, we have we need more followers on Instagram on, on our Twitter. I know we much prefer listeners which we have a lot of. But, you know, go over to our social media and connect with us there. It's, it's a fun and friendly space. Yes, people really responded, well to my emotional breakdown after the Tottenham Liverpool podcast really did. Yeah. They enjoyed the Croke in your voice. We're gonna start with rod Murphy in east Lansing, Michigan. Dear Spurs, Yandi and never welcome on jayjay your horse voices the day after the Champions League final never sounded so good. Sure the game was a scruffy affair both paucity and a dearth of memorable moments but for all of us who have been for years now loyal listeners to the podcast. It was a chance to save her how your shared love of soccer convenes us as a community of listeners, frankly, I am surprised the Harry lemon is still standing. But ideally, wish I could have been there for the event, even if Tottenham and Liverpool never again play for such high stakes may there be Manny more watch parties at which you get to see the loyalty of inspired among. Your listeners. I'm pleased that the off side called continue from all the reports the fans from both teams had a grand time Madrid and that behind a residue of much goodwill. That is very true. Yeah. I've heard that. Yep. Yeah. No. Well, we'll get to some not so much goodwill associated with English fans in a minute, not all rivalries, have to be bitter virtual. So let the ab- Lucians go on. You are each talented individuals. But this crazy partnership you formed has a special chemistry and magic. That is truly remarkable. It's like next year's rat battle is going to have to be like some kind of, you know, friendship rap. Count me in for the next five years of listening. Thank you very much. Mr Rod Murphy, in Michigan. Zach Zimmerman I, I want to say thanks for hosting the Champions League. Final watch party even though as Tottenham fan we didn't get result. We were hoping for it was a lot of fun being caught up Cy community. You guys should definitely horse more of these in the future plan to I've been following the twenties pretty closely. And it looks like we have some real talent that age considering how few spots are locked down on the senior men's team right now who bully to you think it's a possibility that the twenty twenty two World Cup team will have more players from the US twenty teen than the summers goal Cup team. Wow. What a question. My gut is to say no. However, there will like I said in the first part of the podcast night, there will be players that you're watching right now from this you twenty side that are gonna be on the next World Cup team. Tim way, a will be. It was hard to watch a bastion Soto. And not think he will be, especially when you look at that position for us, like what has happened to Bobby wood, where we'll Josie Al. Door at that stage in his career all JJ how the US shot just sergeant registering. The, the US's first shot on target and the eighty seventh minute came dangerously close to scoring but a great save. Oh man. Oh, nice torch over sharp something of bit of the Bergkamp about him now. I'm really talking to God. So, yeah. I mean like it's valid question. But like you said, in the first part, let's also not get too caught up with what the under twenty side or what if they're not starting for their clubs are there. Adrift on the bench somewhere. Are they going to be there? Like Bobby wood is a case in point a cautionary tale. Right. And just remember how many young players, which is a good thing, how many young players are currently a part of the senior side, Pule sick McKinney atoms, just to name, a few meows, go potentially. Really almost most of them with the exception of, like Bradley Josie whom I who are the obvious. I mean, well, yet, Lynn won't be a part of this Gold Cup team for unfortunate reasons with his injury. But yeah, this your point there will be players, though. There will be we've had a plethora of tweets about in article soul Andy mitten, who writes, Riesco NFC, but also is editor at large, from for four four two magazine, which was the magazine of choice when I was a kid started in ninety four started buying it loved it. He went to visit Mexico to the second division to visit with Diego Maradonna. Don't wait. Are you doing something? Now. It's Diego Maradonna. Yeah. On diego. Maradonna say is that going to form part of a red card or man of the match? No better. Can I keep talking about it? Or do you want me to stop? How about can you save this? I have a, a five stars for five years review later in the podcast. Seven don't forget, about his name will come. Oh, good. Lord, Matthew at magnum PI reduce. What is the cultural difference between the portion of England fans who are won't to make this kind of Rookus versus the NFC Tottenham fans who produced a grit, showing in Madrid that is one of the great question so tonight and portal ahead of England's nations league semi final clash with the Netherlands, there's been real crowd trouble amongst English fans. They've been charged with batons, by the Portuguese. Police they've been throwing bottles singing, anti-ira songs singing songs about the second World War. And a lot of people are asking, why does this keep? Happing and why didn't it happen in Madrid, I would say the first thing is that the Liverpool Spurs fans are regular travelers to Europe, this won't work these days, it's not the nineteen eighties. If you're in the Champions, League or European qualification, if you act, the thug all the time, then it's a real problem in the fans are much better behaved. I think it's because England fans take a lot of fans opened down the road from places where teams aren't in Europe anymore. You know teams don't get to travel from the lower leagues. You're old you're Bari's your leads. You know, your Sheffi Wednesdays I don't want, I'm not tagging these clubs. I'm just saying clubs that aren't in the primarily. I'm not saying those clubs had Anne fans had anything to do with violence night, but there's inelegant that when they get a broad, it's all about empire and the second World War, and the IRA the troubles in the north and all those things they get beers in them. They feel as if they're conquering army and away, they go, there's a good documentary from World Cup two thousand. And six from the BBC and they talk about the hooligan mentality at the German World Cup guys. Go go and watch it on YouTube. It's very interesting and get insides gets inside the mind of people who go abroad, sing these songs throw bottles of the police Mitchell in Ohio, I've been a longtime listener for probably about two years now. And I really miss an episode at work. I've had to stay by myself until about three a m on Wednesday nights, cleaning things that we can't clean. Why open and I found out listening to the pod is a great way to kill time and make it less quiet and boring. Is this good? I just wanted to send us into the mailbox to do it. It'll homeless break. I went full Spurs the Andy for the Champions League finale. I am a Liverpool supporter, and sadly had to work during the final. So I completely shut myself away from every app for sports have and Twitter. I didn't see a single second of the game until I got off work and was able to watch my recording of the game. That's awesome. When people can execute in this modern digital digital world that's really tough. But it can be done. Can be done. Well, don't Mitchell. Really? That's all I wanted to say. Thanks for making Grischuk every week for me to fill my boring life with some your lifestyle boring. You just a job that you have to listen to me, Andrew to get through fair enough. That's they're worse. Things are worse things you are valued in your loved bios. This is from anonymous got this on Saturday morning on my way to the Champions League final in Harry them, one of the money reasons I love your podcast is because my close friend, and I are also Spurs in Liverpool fan. Of course. Sensibly undeliverable fun. Well. He decided to start dating my ex-girlfriend four years, a month after we broke up behind my back. I found out on Easter Sunday. Needless to say, we are not friends anymore, but this final seems like my chance at payback goal Liverpool be my karma on a raise the memory of carriers in last year's final, please. So I guess he's laughing last, he's laughing maniacally out the window. So what am I supposed to feel bad about being Tottenham fan after? No. What was the point of that just Tottenham funds? You know, be trusted ethically morally joking joking on finally, you'll never walk alone. Gentlemen, specifically. JJ. Sorry, andrew. How are you today? I m e e mailing to revel in Sunday are Saturday's thrilling victory basking in the red tinged dove supporting the European champions Liverpool football club. Really though jen's. I wanted to say. Thanks. I mean United States Marine who was currently deployed I fell in love with Liverpool last year. And after watching them thoroughly dismantled man city in the Champions League quarter-finals on finally had a club to cheer on after years of following the competition. But I feel is superseded only by the World Cup and college football's regular-season interesting. It is also known that time that I discovered your podcast and have enjoyed listening ever since the phone you have, and the happiness you create and me when I listened to your reactions to the UCLA semi's was fantastic. Gents thousands of miles away from my home. My wife. I have not been able to watch a single match life. I've only gotten to see highlights of games. I want to say thank you for giving me something to look forward to and to take my mind off home. It has being a blast to listen on follow the European soccer season unfold through your guys podcast. I am really appreciative of that. And I hope you guys keep up the great work. I will finish saying JJ I will drink a point to you, and our boys, the next time I can, and I want to say it as a fan of money, American sports teams that have. Let me down over the years. I know the feeling and I can say, no that a truly do hope Tottenham that allusive trophy here soon. Cheers, boys, that's from JD Smith. Lance, corporal US Marine Corps. That's very nice. Yeah, we thank him for his service. And I raise a point to use or maybe we can raise the point together sometime who you a me or him in me, JD, your parents, too, so disengage because it's now gone fine. This respect five that was a lovely Email, you were doing your worried about the reggae Boyz on the, the last voice you were rolling over there. I thought I could just kinda hone in on the US just loss to Jamaica and it was just so bad. There was one mile, these reactions get out of the ground. What are you standing room for biting, your fingers, hoping the TV cameras comes across you, American outlaws? Get out of there and have a pint boy, just such a like, again, it's, it's fifty. Overreact to. But I was just such a bummer of a performance before. We join dryer Bill, Twitter, please, we don't need the drama guys in the stands. We don't need the drama. It's an experiment. That didn't go right tonight tank. You JD Smith by the way, and I apologize for Andrew phasing out four minutes into stoppage time, Georgia. Mehalla vich had move where he broke through got into the penalty area was almost kinda sorta one on one with the keeper. But his last touch let them down kind of befitting of the night. Overall sounds like Duane Holmes was really the only bright spot for the US in this game. It may be a performance like that could be enough to get them onto the twenty three man squad. But boy, there's I don't know what you do. If you're halter after a game like that, if this was a night where you're supposed to look at certain performances and make decisions is. It's just a matter of, like, who was the least bad that I can bring with me because he's rough and for Venezuela on Sunday. I'm wondering now. So do they go with like how much of their ace squad do they now they've got to play? At least one game together with his preferred eleven now, I don't think all of them will be there. I don't think Tyler Adams arrives in the US until next Tuesday. We'll have to see. I mean, I remember these these gold cups under your Clinton. And it was like the group stayed people still testing things out. Maybe that's just the nature, but they've got to be careful. We always say that, like find your squad Guyana. You're worried about them about everything. I have a what to watch for here. I don't really have much to say about it, but I do want to mention that the nation's league Thursday to forty five the Netherlands and England today. Cristiano Rinaldo what can you say about him, but it wasn't a grit Portuguese performance. And yet, he pulls out a hatches. His performance was pretty good. He has a hat trick Portugal defeat Switzerland three one, which are too much fire and lengthy lengthy VAR envir- for incidental contacts and going back and what I said on Twitter, don't think it was a penalty for the Swiss although to say they didn't deserve equalizer will be wrong on it was brilliant from Hernaldo, then too, by the way, the goalie finished at the near post where he sweeps at home. That's strike at the peak of his powers, and he's not he's thirty four own believable. But the, the one that he scored after that, even I eighty eight and the one where he painted yet we've cuts in and Bennett creek old Renaldo, go. But as strikers goal. I prefer the other one just but I'm nitpicking aesthetics are more aesthetically pleasing to watch. I don't know watched the curl then. Yeah, but to catch it as it's bouncing open, then drive low into the keeper Netherlands, in England should be interesting. It's so funny with Netherlands, the how quickly it looks like this turnaround has occurred because now I'm starting to think about it. And I'm starting to think about the next ten years, potentially Van Dyke and delivered in the central defense for the Netherlands and even some of their older players. I apply. It's not that old, he's only in his mid twenties. You know he's had a starring start to his career. No. He's being linked with Liverpool linked with Parsons, your mind, so many different clubs these Tottenham players that are on England like they're gonna go on the field. Oh, God him. Again, Van Dyke, God can't we escape you. Let's see. She'll be an interesting game. I mentioned women's World Cup. JJ kicks off Friday, three o'clock, France and South Korea. And then were often running everyday there's games up until the knock-out rounds MLS. It's a lesser lighter weekend, but there is still a couple games worth watching Friday, seven o'clock, Toronto, FC and sporting Kansas City, see who Toronto picked up hallmark kansallis back in the US AA or Canada. But back in the US leak is the point. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. We'll see how that works out for Toronto. Also this one Saturday, seven thirty Philadelphia union and the New York red bulls Philadelphia with good performance over the weekend. They have been maybe the pleasant surprise of the season so far rivalry match. We'll see if they can keep it going, and the friendly, we talked about the US in Venezuela, Sunday at two o'clock, a couple other games also that I didn't have on on here, but the US under twenty s Saturday, eleven thirty. A M. US Ecuador nice for a spot in the. In the semi finals, Ecuador apparently better than their group stage suggests so that's going to be interesting. And also the winner of Netherlands and England will face Portugal, that is Sunday midday also big European jumps you qualify for the Republican Ireland a way to Denmark again because we have to play Denmark, it is so decreed, if you're US women verse Swedish with magin had them in the nation's league had them in World Cup qualifying have them again in European championship. Qualifying let's see JJ I wanna get to this straightaway here, red card. So let's talk about this. I gave it just essentially to the name, our situation. Let's go through it. So basically every single aspect of the situation has been bad. Obviously, we'll start with the accusation against neymar, which if true would land him in prison, potentially then from there, you have neymars potentially illegal decision to mount his own defense in an Instagram video, which reveals extremely sensitive in for. Nation about the accuser. Then earlier today. There's the confusion over just what the charge is against name are in the first place. This is from the independent, they write the Brazilian lawyers who first represented. An unidentified woman who was accused name are rape say that her initial complaint charge charged. She was a victim of aggression, or physical violence, by the player though. They added that doesn't mean thirty's couldn't pursue a prosecution. The case as she reported it to police, the attorney said, in a statement, they believe their former client has has solid evidence. She suffered what they referred to as physical violence at a pair. So tell on may fifteenth later. One of the attorneys added that a private medical report obtained, by the woman showed she had bruises scratches anxiety and depression, he declined to show the report as to the allegations of rape. That was new to members of our law from the lawyers said, in a statement authorities will decide whether it happened or not they might have a different interpretation from our. So Jay now the accusers, new attorney is accusing. The former legal team of this woman of betraying their client in every possible way. So it's, it's chaos to shambles and here's the thing. So here's what we don't know whether or not a crime between name are in the woman actually took place. But here's what we do know everything that you're seeing here is why women hesitate to come forward in the first place from so many different ends neymars, most prominently among them this has been handled. So poorly, and has taken on such a circus, like feel to it that you can understand why the accusers initial desire was simply to pursue this civil court keep media attention at a minimum. And I know that there will be people who will come at me, and say, well, if name neymar didn't do this. He has a right to defend himself, which is certainly true. Look, I know it might be hard for neymar to do this. But you have a legal team for a reason to defend yourself through the proper legal channels. So now because whether or not. Is innocent. He still now may have committed a second crime that is being investigated by Brazil cybercrime division. When he posted the Instagram video, it's why you have to defend yourself through legal channels. And it just goes to show that this whole thing has been handled from everyone legal teams included, so poorly, so poorly, you've laid it all out there. I don't have a whole ton to say, except to agree with you, but I will go back to things. We've heard before in the past about name are specifically about those who advise them who is controlled here because nobody with anti common sense would ever. The first thing they would have said, is you do not go near social media, and essentially, like you say, potentially commit another crime, by by giving out sensitive information on Instagram that is wild to me. Yeah. And look, here's, here's an overriding thing, and it's today, it's interesting time into talking about this, because it's the same day that the rape. Lawsuit against Cristiano Rinaldo has shifted from being simply a civil case to now being a federal case Sam board and rights, here that the woman accusing Cristiano Renaldo of raping her shifted the venue for her legal charges against the football superstar, dropping, her case in Nevada State court, so not civil court state court, but filing identical charges and federal court, according to attorney so without even getting into that here. Here's the problem. So who are the three give or take three faces of the sport? Messy Renaldo nam anymore, and two of the three faces the sport. Right now are embroiled in some kind of rape accusation. It's terrible. It's terrible for the game. It's terrible for the image of the game. If these guys did it. It's terrible for all those involved. So that's it. And we'll obviously continue to see what happens with both of these cases. But it's just it's bad. And then I see neymar today showing up at Brazil training in his. Mercedes helicopter just like. Get a clue man. I know. But. Is who is voicing him. Who is his, his inner circle because let's be honest since the move to PS g including the move to be possibly, they've done everything wrong everything what do you have this from the BBC aspirants have been ordered to return the African Champions League trophy unto replay, the second leg of the final, I read that first line. And I thought Andrews absolute dream would be Liverpool have been ordered to return the Champions League final did unity inside lead wooden hill in Saturday's second leg. But Moroccan opponents white add Casablanca left the pitch after an equaliser scored was disallowed white add wanted the. Video assistant referee to check if the goal should stand, but the system was not working the confederation of African football. Caf said, the second leg will be played at a neutral venue, the woman draw from the first leg and Morocco stan's, the replay will be after the Africa Cup of nations in Egypt with which ends on the nineteenth of July a calf statement, said conditions of game and safety were not met in the second leg unmade Crear s bronze players. Most return their winners medals, as well as the trophy play in the second leg was halted after why taught that equalised on fifty nine minutes through while eight L cartoons header it was disallowed for infringement. The viruses, Tom was visible on the side of the pitch. Now, if you look at the picture, it's literally like, remember, one of those old arcade games with the holds over it, it looks like a battered, one of those, that's being on plugged, and had not been told at, but the players, this is the worst thing about the players had not been told. It was not in use because of a mouth luncheon. Why don't you just say at the start of the game guys? Here's the situation vire is not working. We will not be using it tonight. Are you agreeing to play if you're not we have to figure another date if you are? Let's just play without us that feels a little amateurish to me, tirelessly terribly amateur, but I'm saying even your suggestion. But what else could they do? You can't not tell the players. That's exactly what they did that every right to walk off, if you expect to be used, and that's what you've played under in the first leg, and it's not there what a joke. I just have the vision of Cope's and medals being returned. How do you even do that? You do you kind of reverse moonwalk up the podium, take it off and give it back. Did you lifted in the air and then put it down? No. You're not enjoying any of this stick. No. I'm still kind of watching the coverage of the first you ignore Judy Smith. And no. You didn't ignore JD Smith. We're gonna have a pint. All right. Caught off sides man of the match. Let's see JJ with Lennart John Johansen. It's fitting to me that in this time, we're debates are being held about this Superleague replace on the champions. We take time to time to honor the man who essentially created the Champions League. I'm reading here from the guardian Lennart Johansson, who oversaw the introduction of the Champions League during a seventeen year reign as president of European football's governing body has died. He was eighty nine new Hansen said, creating the Champions League to replace the European Cup was his proudest achievement at UEFA it evolved, in the club football's most lucrative and prestigious competition with expansion that saw non domestic champions, given the entry in addition to that J, he also ran for fief. Evident against everybody's favourite president, Sepp Blatter in one thousand nine hundred eight but narrowly lost. And then became a loud voice against bladder, accusing him of corruption and vote buying two things that we can get on board with the father of the Champions League JJ, Leonard, you'll Hanson dead at the age of eighty nine one to pay respect to him for creating what is such? I mean after the World Cup. Is it like the most prestigious competition in the world I, I guess Copa America fans take with that they would is to we considered europhiles considered as the biggest competition in the world? But I mean he he revamped it into what it is. Now in one thousand nine hundred ninety three we had the group stages on it was it was what we know what today pretty much. Exactly. Yeah. And it used to be knockout. Magin strint nocco, while, but yeah, so I wanted to get that mentioned in there, by the way, speaking of the Super League, I saw now the boondocks league and the Premier League kind of uniting is in a force again. It. So it's almost a point on I know, Lita I think, is against it as well. It's really Italy. That is carrying the mantle mashes ter- city PS, g you're going to don't let them off the hook do not off. But if the Premier League and the boondocks league are both against it then just like say, okay, go ahead with your Super League and see how it does with our teams. Yeah. Who's going to take it? Seriously, the Champions League. I'm it's so good. It's par fish so good. It's not perfect, obviously, because you would like to extend the franchise to other countries a little bit more that we could see a little bit more diversity. It's fully still see it's as good as it's going to be in the modern era of soccer, and look, we love it. Absolutely. What do you have? My man of the match is Daniel storage on. I just wanna play one of his final Manatt is finally it was back in September. One of his one of his best goal certainly for Liverpool against Chelsea at Stanford bridge in not crucial, equaliser laid on if you can play this was one of my favorite goals by him and starches decided that, well the club. Decided that he will move on from Liverpool. Where to we don't know. But at this is going to be one of my fondest memories. To the side is Chiquita. Storage? But then you'll still. Contending this season. An incredible hall of goals from guy who struggled for so long in the red shirt to be fit onto play regularly. We'll, we'll always remember that, that SAS partnership Swire's and starch from the thirteen fourteen championship run, the Liverpool put together, a never quite hit those peaks again. Because injury really eroded his ability to be on the feeling of on. I think a style is a stylistic clash Klopp. And what he wanted to do definitely didn't help either. But I just wanted to ask you, Donna storage, I will remember with nothing but fondness a bit Assad nece that he was injured as much as he was. But is there a player, you think you're sporting life that? For whatever reason didn't quite fit divided opinion in your club, but you loved him. And he gave you so many good moments. I'm not talking Iverson, who was known cold legend he doesn't fit the mill or even Sean Jackson who was a stone cold legend for the fit for the eagles. Who was this kind of just at the player that a lot of people probably when you talk about your legends won't offer him in that, same, Brandon? I always loved Eric snow. That's a tough one there on that fitted that Bill free and Dempsey, probably a while yet. But so hugely bias. Yeah. That it's almost not fair to even use him. But because he is actually a guy who like some Tottenham fans didn't think much of, but he score insured time. He scored somebody big goals. I, I mean well I was gonna say, Aaron leaden because at the end there were a lot of times fans that were over him. But I love them, right. Till the end. If I had a little bit more time to think about it. I, I don't know. Michael Dawson was kind of that player but everytime fan loved him because he cared so much. And got the most out of really having no kind of physical athletic Ledley king. Well, you know, he is he's a legend even though I mean injuries held him back from maybe what he could have been, but he's a Tottenham. He's a Tottenham. I don't know. I dunno. I love all those far too many like. How would you call them amateur physicians are Amateur Athletic trainers who were on Twitter yesterday? Chirpin wasted Thailand and shame. He what was so unfair release fan. But, but like as if an also the criticism that, oh, the slightest pain, he would he wouldn't play he chronic injuries. How do people have decided that he just didn't care enough for you to, to make that judgment? I'll be so curious where he goes neck. It's one of my own criticisms of your Klopp was that he said, what he said two seasons go, we said Daniel has to know what you know how to play through real pain. I thought that was beyond the pale. You can't you can't say things like that. So there you go JJ that is pretty much our show. But we do have one more thing, so many people have been asking for this. So I felt like we had to give the God five stars for five years memory of the week. We've gotten a lot of submissions for this one, I'm going to reach us one of the post. This is from jetty who posted hands down, my favorite moment. So far has been the Daego Maradonna clip. I haven't laughed that hard and every time of. Pops up. I can't get it out of my head the rest of the day. So to jetty and all the others. Here you go. This is from back in November, November twenty six of two thousand eighteen five stars for five years memory of the week on caught off side. Let's see my red card. Oh. O J J, Diego Maradonna. So he, I guess, just to set the scene of what about to play for you. He was being interviewed at a league match and division two, let's be honest. Okay. And so he was basically asked for his take on the quality of league AmEx here. Here's his response. If you even want to call it that. Makino in mice and foodball make Sean. By the Mazar, sitka me. Makino kigali. Hippie. And so the league I make this woman. Do you remember, do you remember? There's two things that come to mind with this. You remember the character says being retired for no good reason on family guy, he was the posh, Massachusetts guy or maybe ruled posh Rhode Island person. He was James L bottom tooth, I think that's called. What? Or it reminds me of when they take the quail lose on wolf of Wall Street and. Diamond Donny, as off is trying to say it Steve Madden and can't speak St. mad. He couldn't they didn't ask him to say the couldn't fake it. You couldn't just give a stock answer in Spanish like, oh, well, this leak is, is a great league and it's been recommended. It's prominent. I love what he couldn't say. Anyth-. He could only say this. Question must have been like did. I just ask the world's most difficult question. Producer must've needed to assure him afterwards, that was not in any way, shape or form difficult wasn't occurs. Own believable. Now Meyer, Donna has a well documented history. With substances cocaine being one of are you implying. Nothing. I'm not I'm just suggesting that maybe I don't know. I don't want to do that, but I can't explain. We know people in this industry who have what we call meaty pauses between their answers. This is hardly that so you ask an you ask a question. Oh, well, what do you think of the strength of league max? On they'll start like that. And even then you might really rice this is beyond me, pausing. If they had asked him his thoughts on the theory of relativity. And he answered that way, I would have said, do better than that. But this was just saying what do you think of the quality of this league? Wow. While your five stars for five years memory of the week that is classic that never will ever get old. I might just get a t shirt Maradona's face from that interview on the front and on the back. God. So, yeah, there you go. A lot of people ask for that one. So Andy interviewed him for four four two. Yes. Yeah. And he said, in the most throwaway fashion. Oh, Man United. Hey, I hear they're looking for a manager. I do it. I'd certainly set a lot of t-shirts wrong word if read it read it. Yeah. He said, if Manchester United Nita coach, I'm the man to do it. I know they sell lots of shirts around the world, but they need to win trophies, too. I can do that for them. He also said that Manchester. United used to be my favorite English team for so long so many great players in a great team under Alex Ferguson. But now I have to say man city, I know you shouldn't change like that. But it's because of Kuna Guerra we speak a lot, any plays a very good team. This was the most throwaway comments ever guys. I don't want you tweeting at me. He's not going to be Manchester United manager. It's not happening. Imagine the team talk day urine goal. And then as. We get out the field centrebacks molding. And then. Devotion to guys look at each other they do there's guys doing the interview DA spent deport has there's such pros and they're looking at each other. And they're just giving each other the stare, you know, the nodding, as if somebody what is profound is going to happen yet. I mean DEA jump in and help him. Do you just let them drown? He's doing their gotta get in there. Don't you gotta break up that? The lag humiliating, but you have to give them a chance to save himself. I think they were hoping that eventually he'll snap come straight away. Or is that a dago halfway through the Lao? Diego's? A silly question considering all the grit leagues. You've played in Spain, etc. Etc. He couldn't. And you're, you're hoping you're hoping that he rifts about Barcelona or something like that. Where are not believe eventually? You'll just be reduced to like keep trying to simplify the question, more and more in eventually, you'd just be like the tell us about your house. Do you have a share you like how much simpler, could it get? Remember, we met a listener at the weekend from Long Island. She's a tidy under dad's are. Yeah. Her dad's -opoly fund, so they're gonna be tuning into the new documentary that's coming out soon about mired. It looks really good. It looks amazing and I just thought of that in. Oh, yeah. So there you go as always, you can submit your I tunes review what I tunes is not going to be a thing anymore. So I don't know what that means for reviews, I guess you don't need to do it on itunes. It's like on. Apple podcast. You can just autumn of the. Oh, yeah. It's apple podcast. Don't worry about. We should call it apple podcast review. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So leave your five stars. Leave your review, we've lost to get through right? And in the review. Leave if you have a favorite memory from the five years of the podcast, like we've been doing. We'll try to find it and play it for you. There's a bunch more good ones overwhelming, Maradonna support. Yeah. But that one just knocked a lot of, of the people out who were who were making their submissions. That was a favourite apparently will, hey. This was fun man to you. I say. See later LA. Listening to KADO side. Sucker podcast.
Ep. 143 Starting a Business From the Ground Up, with Jenna Irvin
"Hey it's jolly Dumas's of fire and it's the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate Caribbean entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by author or Speaker in award winning entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite we needed to raise this capital but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had a real concerns about financing our business through outside equity investor does on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation. Sean for our business we had our own ideas about the business and its rally. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try Jamaica make a stock exchange so we made a call an experience transformation of our business through conversations John Mahfoud Seal of Jamaica. They can tease and we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange give us a call today at eight seven six nine hundred seven three two seven one to begin your transformation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange coming up on this episode of the entrepreneurial you. I think that it's really important to open the space for connection because when our insecurity is limiting beliefs leafs are speaking loudly. Were unapproachable and so I think when you're entering a new community or a new space or you know trying to work out for the first time a really doing anything in a space. It is not familiar. You have to open the space for that connection to happen. It's not just gonNA come to you without you being approachable and giving off the energy that you're ready for that Adin so I think for me. I absolutely connected to local businesses an area that had been there for a while I made connections but I made sure that every single connection action dove below that surface level. The opportunities don't happen you create them. Chris Grocer Hi my people former what Guan how are you today. Welcome home to episode one hundred and Forty Three of the entrepreneur you podcast. I'm Hennigan want his sports. Today's episode as a with Jenna Jenner Irving as. I'm going to be hearing so much about her. She's going to be sharing much at boats. Her business what she's up to as as a pure bar owner and coach generally leads with intuition uses fair as a fuel to grow and believes that failure is our greatest test teacher. She feels the most alive and connected to her. Why when she's holding space for others step into all? That's what's the are welcome welcome welcome Geno. It's my pleasure to have you and I look forward to having our conversation surrounding what it means for you to have your own business and starting business and all of that so I'm looking forward to that. Yes thank you so much for having me. I'm grateful to be here absolutely so let stalk before we get into the meat of the matter. Let's talk some Jamaicans. Yeah all right. So so what is your experience of Jamaica with Jamaica. Anything about a talk to me about Jamaica. I've only ever spent one day. They're ah yes well. It was a cruise so to make as one of our stops but we had a really awesome tore guide and she taught us a lot about the Jamaican culture and kind of did the Torah was awesome. Shit really great energy and we saw the man a lot it was awesome. It was a great great great experience. Okay grades Just so you knew I who does your vocabulary expand Yemen definitely be open to extending vocabulary beyond that all right so they missed. I win somebody gets on your nerves. Just nobody Oh yeah absolutely world leave me alone about a me any who any who alright all right so let's talk about pure Bar Mitzvah. The stage was pure bar really. Yeah so we are a ballet based based strength workout so we use the ballet bar but our workout is small isometric movements that is mostly done with gesture body. We do have resistance bands and small weights that are used from time to time but the goal of the workout is for your body to work in opposition so that your muscles actually work against each other to make you stronger since very small ranges very isolated and it's also extremely low impact so it's great for all fitness levels all ages and and it's just a really great way to work on your flexibility at the same time as you are strengthening your muscles so and we also double as a high end retail boutiques so. We carry closed from multiple fitness brands. And sell those as well. So it's two revenue streams underneath one roof. which is great from a business owner perspective? Respective pure bar is a franchise. No I'd want to hear more about the WHO will pure bar as a franchise not necessarily just your your ownership. But the the franchise the overall. Why did you decide to choose that as your business option? I'm in love with a technique. I struggled a lot with. I was basketball player my whole life but I always struggled with feeling insecure and myself and in how I show up and I had an eating disorder in high school and I've been six foot once and sixth grade so I've just had to navigate being very early developer and not ever really like I fit and when I found the pair hereby workout. I felt like I fit for the very first time and so to me. It's extends way beyond the workout. It's a place where you're accepted. You're encouraged And you know that you're enough as you are so the decision to get stronger. It's just courageous. One and we hold the space to support you to step into that strength and so what the what the company stands for on a moral level drew me and way more than the workout itself and then the technique is just incredible. I haven't ever refund anything that makes my body feel as great as it does doing per bar so all of that combine is what made my decision to pursue sue this from a business perspective. So in fact it's business for good yes right so it's great that it aligns to what it is that you're looking being for knowing Geno that you are enough because strangely that is what many people's struggle with you know the impostor syndrome from the HAM. I am I really good enough for what it is that I want to pursue. Who Am I to want to go down that route but yet you're able to find this this company's Companies Organization until you have you'll enfranchise? What was that process lake in terms of acquiring a franchise for yourself yes so I applied applied to be a peer bar owner the first semester of maxine near Year of college? I did college in three years so I was graduating a year early and I had been doing for about a year at that point and I fell in love with the technique and the communities as I'm just GonNa go for both of my parents business owner. I and I was raised with the mentality that I can do. Anything I set my mind to. I was supported in the decision to move forward with that so I became an approved owner owner while it was still in college and navigate that the real estate and kind of the early stages of that while I was finishing school and upon graduation my studio so needed to. I hadn't signed a lease yet and I haven't really found the right real estate to move forward on so I moved to had island in South Carolina and I spent some time here teaching while I was waiting for my business in Maryland to be ready to open and I moved to Maryland the beginning of twenty eighteen gene. An Open my first studio there and I owned that studio for ten months of which I gave all of myself to for that entire ten ten months I worked through. Burn out and a lot of things in those early stages because I was young and hungry for all of it and I was able all to double my investment in that ten month period and I sold that location and actually purchased the one in Hilton head island to the beginning of this year and that is the studio that I now own. Oh on and run on a daily basis good for you good for you know franchising as a business a viable business option is what many you know. I remember the first center I read are rich. Dad Poor Dad to other ways he talked about making money. And you know aren't growing wealth was through franchising and through real estate's so clearly the franchise model really really does work. And I understand the value and the content. You you pretty much much have a business that is done that is made for you and therefore no allows you to focus on the things that you know getting in your clients and so on what what has been that process. Actually in terms of marketing the business your arm of the business getting clients and staying staying relevant and staying County due to provide services that people want yes market in a very unique way. I think even element differently than the majority of the franchise anti space as a whole. Because I'm very connected to my heart. I do this because it sets my spirit on fire but I also really only know how to market from a storytelling telling perspective. Because I only want to sell you what I am offering if it is going to truly benefit you and what you need in your life so I connect with people will as a person first and then as a client second and so my marketing strategy from the very beginning has been sharing my story my experience with the technique technique other clients experiences and basically painting. A picture of what our community is like and inviting you intimate and said of constantly posting about like what things cost or talking about packages and stuff like that. I tend to approach marketing from a sense of this. Who We are and we would love to welcome you to our family who we are connects with who you are? So he is your leading really from the core and know that when Simon scenic toxic votes You know the Golden Triangle and and why you do what you do is at the core that appears to purses more because for you for example you had your struggles growing up and having come in contact contact with with a business business model that a low user fee like you are enough and and in fact you are enough so that model actually works. Yes yes all right. So what does it been like for you. So how long have you been doing this. General almost two years ears and total about ten months in my current location. Tim Lindsey current location would almost weird and and over that time. We're talking two years. No what are some of the learnings the well before I go to learnings. Perhaps I need to start with. What are some of the struggles that you've had since you started and Ho- have you managed to overcome? What if someone learnings learnings from those definitely I think that failure and struggle and all of those things are truly our greatest teacher however that was not the mindset is that I hadn't they beginning? I've learned so much from each one of my failures that I feel like I approach my mindset about failure differently but I think that the loudest struggle for me. I was twenty one years old when I opened the doors to my studio. It was in a town where I didn't know anyone. I had been there a handful of times and so it was this space of trying to navigate so much change on a personal level at the same time that I was stepping wrapping into the career world for the first time and not only that but as the leader of this platform and so I had to really honest with myself about where my insecurity security use and my limiting beliefs at I had to heal those pretty much publicly because I was opening a business. And you know those. Your wellness is your best. So if you're not if you're not approaching things from a healthy mindset coming at it from that way it can be really challenging for you to show up and cultivate that community that you are are trying to cultivate and so you know I realized quickly leading platform of what isn't mostly women at here that so many of the insecurities things that I saw Own We're salt by a majority of the women that I was teaching and so it became really important to me to model growth in that area. And so I really. I think that my insecurity around my age was the biggest struggle in the beginning. And it's been the greatest teacher moving forward that you know you're west. Him is in your experience France not in how many years he faulk this earth and so I think that that space has been both a challenge and an area of growth for me and I think also so just the navigating post college life and also understanding that my my friendships and my relationships. We're going to shift as I entered turn into this new area of business ownership because when you're young and I think always when you go into something that you're so passionate about it so easy to all all of yourself and in the beginning stages of my business. I didn't allow any open space for my life like I really did not have that balance between between work and life and I think it's so vital to make sure that you have that because so often we feel like our work can't wait and like we I have everything done and to be honest business owner. You never go to sleep at night with everything done. It's like that could never happen. And so when you set goals that are unattainable you end up being disappointed in yourself all the time and so I had to learn how to get myself grace on a whole new level and also recognize that you know building. My business was absolutely important but losing myself and burning out in the process was not going to get there any quicker and so that lessons a hard one and it's almost one that you have after almost reach a place of burn out before you recognize where your boundaries need to be set and why they're essential You've said so so many good stuff right there. You talked about the relationship shifts. That were necessary Renault. You're getting and it's not like those I keep saying it's not like those. Those persons are bad people necessarily but the season that you're in. It's just you know you you need different folks different and strokes different folks to take you through that and so I get that and I say it all the time when I have conversations here on the podcast I say that you you have to make that shift right because not everybody especially if your tribe the the the group that you're normally hanging out with its its they're not entrepreneurial they don't get it they don't get that mindset that you're no shifted in but also you talkable giving yourself grace and that is so important because so many times are harder ourselves yourselves and and again you got to the point where you didn't want to lose yourself you're saying all in finding you know the path to your business because so many of us and I speak from experience when I tell you that I've gotten to the point of burn and no I'm learning the habit of respecting myself. You know you never ever ever as an entrepreneur. Get that job done. You're always going to your bed knowing that something has to be done but have begun to respect myself a lot more. You know Geno in terms aww getting away from the phone and Taking breaks and stuff so I really appreciate you saying that any needs to be said. No you also alluded to the fact that you know you didn't necessarily have Those prior connections so hold it work for you. How do you start a business or franchise and just generally? How do you start a business when you have no previous connections? You're starting from Ground Zero. Hold us that work. You Open your heart immediately. You know I think it's really important to open the space for connection because when you know our insecurities in our lemon limiting beliefs are speaking. King loudly were unapproachable. And so I think when you're entering a new community or into space or triangle. Work out for the first time. We're really doing anything in a space. It is not familiar millier. You have to open the space for that connection to happen. It's not just GonNa come to you Without you being approachable and giving off the energy that you're ready for that and so I think for me. I absolutely connected to local businesses in the area that had been there for a while I made connections but I made sure that every single oh connection dove below that surface level so it wasn't like hi. How are you it was like I want to understand the mission of your business and I want to connect with you on the level that I can help help your business grow and you can help this grow and we can work together and I still approach? I have much more connection in the area that I now own a studio but I still approach everything that same way as like. I don't look at anything like competition. I have a great relationship with our local gyms and all of the local businesses because to neither enough space for everyone. There's enough success for everyone. And I think sometimes we get so caught up in our own little bubble that we're so afraid of competition and connection because as we're afraid that it's GonNa take away from our success and I just have always believed that we're stronger together and so going into a community with that mindset and opening opening that space honestly a pretty natural process for my clientele to be built in Maryland. We hit our membership goal that I had set for the year ear inn month to and it was really just me putting my heart and soul into what I was doing. I am not really logistics percent. I plan I set goals but I really truly from my heart and I think that that helps people connect to me a little bit easier. So you're really leading from opposition of abundance that there is enough for everyone in the space. And it kind of Baffles me that you started out the way Oh you did by saying you know growing up you struggled with knowing that are thinking that you're not enough but then there's a disconnect because here are you are at this place saying this clearly Obviously that you have this mindset of there is enough for everybody is abundant so oh is like okay you know clearly it was inside of you before you even realize that you are in oven these this kind of thinking would allow you to the way you do so you talked about you went beyond the superficial level of. Hi How are you but give us a little more insight into. How do you really get to go beyond that superficial level because even you know when thinking about networking events or just meeting people in general well there is this Fair of really putting yourself out there to make others no you and to you know get to you knew other people. I think that vulnerability ignites connection and so often times. If we are craving that connection and it's GonNa require our own vulnerability to come first and so I tend to share from a very vulnerable place. I'm a writer my writing invites you into my heart and I. I just recently wrote a post site on dating but it's also relevant with any conversation like I struggle to sit down and talk about the weather with you. It's it's like I wanNA know I wanNA know what's in your heart. I WanNa know who you are. I don't want to have a conversation that I could go to your linked in profile and gather everything that we just talked about it. It's like I want. I want to go beneath that. And so I think in order to have those conversations I have to model though so I have to be willing to offer up that much of myself because if not often. That's hypocritical right. So it's like I have to be willing to go to that space and invite you there with me rather than just expecting you to know that that's what I'm craving and so I I think that it's the same thing in in my business. I I know my clients like I know who they are as people and I know about their lives and their families and it's like I make that that connection and that is the most important thing to me like I care to know then and then sure the fact that they're my clients and pin every month and all of that set that cusine business S. running but that's not my Wi- like my. Why is have a space where they feel safe to feel strong and in their power and in order to do that I have to know them as people and that's why I show up every day? I mean the money is obviously you know what keeps the world spinning around and I got that but at the end of the day. That's outlook to bed. And so allowing your y your vulnerability honor the lady. Your mission to be one invites people into your space is going to continue propelling forward in a way that the logistical stuff. Just really can you say a lot of things that have have always believed and and thoughts about and some happy to hear you share those right. I talk a lot of boats vulnerability celebrity Rights for the leader cast Blah blog or. I'm just you know in general and talking about leadership. One things talk about a lot is vulnerable to advance. I was just sharing on television recently about that. Because it's very important that you know we share the parts of us that are not necessarily the most attractive the parts of I that we don't we don't just readily shell to the mountain top. What we we share with those are around us who share our species and you know because of course celebrity will allow us to connect more with others? You couldn't have said it bitta all right so I want to ask you as we are close to the end of our conversation Geno. What is your guide to developing confidence when starting a business? What can you say to those who are listening right no to develop that confidence in need to start a business? I think that we have all that we need that. The process is entrusting you you do and you know I tell my clients every day on a daily basis in class that are struggling to make it through their final ten counts the the belief that love the analogy that you have for every other person in your life that you love is completely unwavering and so you have to dig deep and figure. Go out what you need to have that exact same belief that exact same love that exact same intention with yourself and I think that the world is so loud and so fast and we have so many different voices coming at us because we have access to so much information at our fingertips that sitting and silliness is like impossible and self care and all of that is becoming trendy on instagram. But I think the real meaning of that is getting lost and so sitting in silence space with yourself. That is how I make all of my mississippians. All of my relationship. Decisions is asking myself the questions that I'm struggling with because having mentors getting outward help all of that is so vital but but at the end of the day you are heart. What you have to honor and intuitively? We always know what we need. So if you're walking if you're walking life right. Now that feels out of alignment then sit. Didn't sonus with yourself and ask yourself what you need to feel like. You're living in alignment again. Those answers are going to show up and from there. It's having the courage to follow them and knowing that you have everything everything that you need to accomplish. Everything your hearts asking you for. I am one that advocates so much for silence like I believe. Sadness is Golden. When when you sit by yourself and you you're able to just think do nothing it's hard it's hard volley let me just confess? It is hard to do. I mean especially if you are as hyperactive exile you know slowing down and stopping is not easy but once you once you're low yourself to do it you know you fight and you push through when a low yourself to do it. The result that happened as a result of that you know what happens as a result of that is is a simply amazing and he talks about the fact that you I use- used to grow. Give us an instance in which you were fair full but then you phoned that you push through and it helped your growth. I think I think I think fear is a part of my daily life. I think it's a healthy. I think I think fear should be a friend. I think it's a healthy reminder that year chasing things that feel bigger than yourself because you're taking a leap into something not knowing you're going to be supported and that is the most courageous thing that you can do is a leap into this life. That you feel in your heart is right for you and hope that on the other side you're caught but regardless of whether or not you are caught on that other side you're gonNA to learn about yourself in the process and so I think that having a healthy amount of fear her is your fuel to continue to fight for the things that your heart is asking before and I think that just not allowing it to be what speaks allowed us because it's never going to be non-existent and that's an unattainable goal to think that you're never gonNa that'd be scared but I also think that when you allow your confidence in yourself and you take away the power from your insecurities as because they truly only have power if you give it to them that fear is no longer this screeching sound that you can hear nothing else over. It's simply a partner that moves with you to tell you that you are so courageous and so strong and so capable share with us one of your most fearful moments and what you know help you push through that and I I think that when I opened my Maryland Studio I had four hundred dollars in my bank account and I was terrified because I didn't know if we're GONNA walk through the door. I was hopeful and I believed in. You know what I was creating. But there's no way to have certainty and not and I was terrified because I have phenomenal parents and they will. They will catch me as many times as they need to. But when you have parents like that the last thing you ever want to do is have to lean back into that and so it was very important to me that I did. That's on my own. Because I had told them that I couldn't that I was ready. And so when you take that leap and you're in the middle of not knowing it's terrifying and I was shaking. I mean the whole whole verse month. I was shaking and I was just totally in this space of unknown and the way that I navigated that was just by continuing and by allowing my passion to so come through amidst fear. I think that's the magic because when when you show up for your Y it's like everything's going to eventually work out whether it's the way you expected it to or not and so. I think that was absolutely the most fearful the time period of my life and I was supported the not dream but I think regardless of whether or not it was an incredible learning process for me to step into that space of of not knowing whether or not I would be good for you good for you and thank you so much agenda Irving but sharing your heart with us thank you so so much for having me and has been wonderful to be here yes it has been it has been I once or community to be able to get in touch with you to hear more from you so go ahead and share. How how would they may do? So yes I'm the most active on my instagram and my website and everything is linked there. So that's just at Jena Urban J. E. N. N. A. I R. V. I N.. And so yeah I would love for Yada keep in touch and thank you my people former for tuning in to this episode with Jenner Irving. I really look forward connecting with you next week. In the meantime of course I'm inviting you to join the very select mastermind group to create a strategic advantage. That will you drive your business improve personalized and have professional breakthroughs and business breakthrough. This mastermind will be from stock. DOC unsold so if you want to be part of this group asset you visit Geico Dot Com and send me what message letting him know that q r remember you were born to win but to be a winner you must pursue and expect to block.
The Fundamentals of an Epic Transformation, with Stacey Hines
"Hey is jolly Dumiso. V O fire. And it's the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate. Caribbean entrepreneurs seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Author Speaker and Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite. We needed to risk capital but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had real concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business? We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try Jamaica Stock Exchange so we made a call an experienced? Transformation of our business through conversations John food seal of Jamaican teas and we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight. Seven six nine hundred seventy two seven one to begin your transformation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange coming up on this episode of the entrepreneurial you after having three children and being a part off I think I'll work in culture especially since I have a background in tech on. My job was primarily technology work with macy's systems and technology in Atlanta at the time when I started to feel like very overwhelmed I think if I had been diagnosed at that time it would have been picked up that maybe there was some onset. Depression happening in life already. I don't think most persons are aware off that way it's initially status was struggling in my marriage and I wanted to create a fresh start and so I decided. Hey let's pack up and move the entire family to Jamaica which we did right around the end of two thousand eight and then in two thousand nine things in my life wide. My career continued to expand and grow by then I was VP software development company. Everything as in my life a snail's unslinging on very miserable ammos happiness comes from living as you need to as he wants to as your inner voice tells you to happiness comes from being who you actually are instead of you think you are supposed to be. Shonda rhimes. Hello Hello Hello. My people form community. How are you today? I really trust that. You're having an amazing time because I am. It is episode one fifty seven L. The entrepreneur podcast and today's episode as with Stacy Hinds Know Stacey is shown summation strategist working with a multimillion dollar investment company where she focuses on leading the project management office the technology and marketing centers of excellence and Championing Leadership Development and culture. She's also the founder of epic transformation and E-learning and consulting company which specializes in serving businesses and business leaders with strategic thinking and planning services grown dead in creating radical shifts in culture and leadership to build collaboration across teams and enable lasting organizational impacts. So I am actually looking forward to talking talking stacy today about the fundamentals of an epic transformation. Welcome Stacey thank you so much had got really happened to be here and thank you so much community for for welcoming me into your space. I don't take it for granted and I'm looking forward to this. Come to prompt station awesome so so before we dive into what we're about to talk about. What's your favorite thing about being Jamaican That's a great question. Actually what I like about being Jamaican especially since I'm What would be considered a Jamaican immigrant? Because I was born here in the night and left and went to the US. Where I spent most of my life and have just recently returned. I love that we are so tiny so relevant everywhere in the world. I love the world's affection for Army Lila. Yeah so in other words let me put it in Jamaica pilots right Willie Catala. Yes yes being a positive that Taiwanese. Yes yes and just me and and literally you embodied that. Because you're not you're not quite so a big person you know in body physically or your fatigue and all of that so and you come with a you know at dose of Awesomeness and amazing this. That's a new year going to unleash enough later as we develop our conversation. So let's talk about the fundamentals of an epic transmission Let me just kind of you know. Lady atmosphere that prompted there is no greater person to talk about Transformation than you I know of your story out that'd be that'd be story has been published in the papers here. Jamaica's well but for those who don't know and you know you're being introduced to them for the very first time. Give us a glimpse of why you think I would say that you know you are the transformation queen. Yeah I I think the main word that embodies my life experience really is epic in context of transformation. Because something epic is just really grand. You know and I I think I had a relatively normal life growing up and I was born to a teenage mom actually and easily just integrated her family so my grandparents and my mom and her brothers and sister raised me and my my dad lived in America and eventually I went and lived with him at university. And you know a married my high school sweetheart and I think I was on the path that we are. We being society to become a expects for a young woman you know and I was happy on that path. Had the dream of the whole Senate kids picked on picket fence. You have the American dream. I did actually lived it out to the point where it became a nightmare. A nightmare looks like is just After having three children and Being apart off I think a working culture especially since about grown in tick on my my job was primarily technology work with macy's systems and technology in Atlanta at the time when I started to feel like very overwhelmed you know I think if I had been diagnosed at that time it would have been picked up that maybe there was some On that end depression happening in my life already. I don't think most persons are aware of that way. Initially statistically I was struggling in my marriage and I wanted to create a fresh start so I decided. Hey let's pack up and move the entire family to Jamaica which we did right around the end of two thousand eight and in two thousand nine You know things in my life while my career continued to expand grew by then I was VP software development company. Everything else in life of spells on slow staying on the very miserable. Almost I felt like I was really excelling workwise and then in areas of Nov even spirit tragedy that got lost my connection with source with my source with my kids It's been as much time with them and I certainly wasn't having fun Healthy Fun after about a year so being in Jamaica. We were the company that I came to work with was acquired by a Canadian company which was the whole point in our all. These tech companies now are going for acquisition. You know so that we can grow and become the next Unicorn and so a Canadian company acquired awesome and we had to move to Canada and that was right around twenty twenty nine in twenty ten. I feel that by life okay. So let's pause there so you you packed up and you came back in twenty two thousand eight at the end you end up. Two dozen needs to Jamaica and two thousand ten you had to move to cannon the and this you move from the US to Jamaica and then by To Canada so right hold on the things that we can impact there but Let's let's continue this story at those points into very clear. You know connecting all those dots. Yes and I appreciate that because for me. I think I talk about it. Like it's just a well known rights right literally moving entire houses and people that in all things out but what happened in twenty ten is that as I came into the New Year knowing that the company that I had just moved to work with was now being relocated. I was head of that relocation team. My marriage had accurate started to fall apart asked for a divorce and then changed online and said I want to separate region so by the time we hit March I was Separated from my now ex husband. My husband and I was actively company working even more hours than I was initially getting the team and my family ready for transition to Canada and remember that point so then at one point you talk a boat You know living the American dream or perhaps the nightmare because no I'm thinking you know maybe we could perhaps term this discussion when your dreams become a nightmare. Yeah but anyway keeps yes. Oh Gosh to even though I would say that the break up with my With my ex was was very traumatic actually on the experience of it never experienced anything in sight of that magnitude. You know and I somehow I didn't stop to think abode myself in all of it just felt like. Oh what I need to keep going and I now have three kids right and you're in Canada steel. So yes I want you to take us back to. When you came back to Jamaica this is this is actually before I got council so this is still twenty ten. I'm in transition showcase Honda. Okay under in April. I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Respond to be moving in In June and So that of breast cancer on top off separation and relocation me in what I now know was an extreme. Don What's sparrow? It's like that moment where I considered a life collapsed because I everything that I knew to be true about. My life had fallen apart and now I was physically falling apart when things fall apart. Okay yes and not what? This really cool What I consider it cool now because I tried some really crazy things to make sure that I was going to stay alive because I was deathly afraid of dying in particular because of my children it was listenable and more votes. I don't want to be my kids because they didn't sign up for this relocating all over the place. I didn't sign up a mommy and daddy splitting up and I certainly didn't sign up a mummy dying. You know so I was. I was squared faced with that and the fear of this had me in. Its firm grip on this. I tried all different urban medicines. I did you urology which is drinking. He I travelling. Okay Yeah it's a it's a thing. I tried different types of supplements and eventually I was. My doctor. Said that the council was moving are growing at a very rapid rate. And they wanted me to everything. That was mentioned Chemo to the radiation wants me to to the drugs and I was afraid of that too so I came up with this store that I was gonNA figure my way of blending the parts of medical traditional therapy with my own version of that and so hooked up with a a Vegan nutritionist in Atlanta and I spent three months with him being liquid Vegan where he would feed me. He would make my food. Mostly juice is at soups and so I went liquid Vegan for three months and during that time I also did radiotherapy and other types of therapy like acupuncture and deep meditation. Schon all kinds of things I did at by then. I was now moving to Canada so I was literally like while I was in Atlanta going through treatment. Moving Yours leaving your movie interviewing new team members to meet me in Canada it was I was still working. It was the kids. Were you know with my mom at this point? Because they couldn't stay with me I wasn't capable of taking care of them and myself and And so I ended up being separated from them for like six months because I then went to Canada. I was in Canada for three months and I was then at. That point is when I slipped into depression all right so depression because depression just doesn't happen You know like that. It's a series of things that in my ex experience an estimate because I I recall just even last last Last year when towards the end of the year like first of all over time. I've always been depressed. There are moments. You know depressant stuff but I I kind of knew how to manage it. You know manage it with my personality. Manage it would shifting thinking positively and all of that stuff but towards the end of the year when I just decided. I'm just going to be started doing less than I was. Just going to be and and still. It was like a wind into this dark dark please because I was not doing as much as I was and so I was in touch with my emotions and make it was. It was just so dark I I mean it became really miserable. No talk to me. I boats being in a in in that state of depression. I mean you're you're thinking about moving and you're interviewing FA job when you're moving you're interviewing for jobs. You're GONNA be going back to Canada at your children. You're you're worried about them because you know you're fearful that you're going to die and you WANNA leave them. Those are natural on concerns. That and and I mean genuine concerns that you have. When did you realize that you became depressed? And what you thought. What is that you thought that would of lead to depression? Because it's not just any one thing right. I was one of those persons that denied my mental illness. And when I say denied it meaning that I didn't even consider the fact that I was crying every single day in hiding it alot red black thought. I was working hard and moving. You know going. Through a divorce so What my my doctor In Canada sent me to see us. I package on honest and why and when I got to my first appointment. She said to me. The only reason you're here is either because he you you're gonNA leave. You're on pills to treat your mental illness or I'm going to admit you to the hospital. And so when she said that I bought that was like you have got to the lady. I said there is nothing wrong with me. Denial and At the end of the first session which left me crying as as I had again. She diagnosed as depressed and And I begged her. Let's try the Freudian Poss- off therapy outcome as often as I need to address. Joel wants to get medication because I'm doing so much other stuff. What is cancer a? Don't want to think I want to put anything else in my body. You not let's let's try something else and she said that she would give me a month of the want the psychiatry at she would put me on sleeping pills and if that wasn't shifting me if she didn't see where my conversations were shifting particular direction then she was going to have to take other action so it came up with that agreement and then. I saw her for about a year and and didn't end up putting me in the hospital or on any addition on medication other than sleeping pills so mental illness for me was Was a shock and also a big learning. I gained so much appreciation for that type of therapy and for mental illness. In general because it was a really poor stigma that thankfully there is a lot of light being shed on. It is very poor. Stigma are on persons who are mentally ill and our won't being treated for that and so there was a great deal of shame for me in. I didn't actually talk about my mental illness and really just now between last year and this year top a lot more about mental illness as a component even off critical diseases like cancer because it really does create so much hardship in your life. That almost natural result is mental. Illness as we say Jamaica Mystic Opin Rate Here so mental illness. Why do you think there's just a shame that's associated with no so for example you you had cancer and you you went for treatment and that's okay you know that's what we do? We have heart Challenges we go on. We get our hearts checked out but when he comes on to a brain what is why. Do you think there's such a stigma associated with that With mental illness. I just think because over high we have not we not really cultivated an acceptance of persons. That have a sickness of the brain are of a mind and so most times because I think persons may not have been able to readily accept them in in society. John Because you're not quite sure hope depression or anxiety or psychosis going to show up and so because you have some extreme cases of mental illness like psychosis where people actually can hurt people. Are they just start acting crazy crazy in public? I think there is a shame with you. Know controlling that and putting the person out a ways that you're not seeing that where there wasn't really so much empathy and compassion for for what could be considered an embarrassing way of acting are being. It's almost like well. You should be able to control that part of annual Miss Ray and whenever we kind on the fence something we have a tendency to just write it off off yes absolutely so so yes so that was my mental at the start of my mental illness journey and what ended up happening as a result is that I started to pay attention to myself before. Then the EIB with everything else happening I really wasn't paying attention to myself on paying attention to the thoughts that were going on in my mind all right so no 'cause you're kind of segue into where we're going to get. Which is you know the fundamentals of an epic transformation. So where are you know and I mean because we know based on you know the end of the story is I mean just put it out there? Of course you know you're cancer free right and all of that and your as a matter of fact let me just ask you to share your own story where are you know where are you know and then we can just go into what what it is that you think led to to the place. You're at right now. Yes so where I am. Now is first of all mentally healthy and stable I'm also cancer three yes. I'm happy to say that I'm a hundred and thirty two pounds because at the time when I was sick I was like a little bit over ninety pounds and eating well again. I'm not particularly if I choose to eat that way than I do but I stay away from a lot of different types of foods. That aren't healthy for you in any regard and I'm very successful. I'm actually doing a lot more than I was doing then. I work with great company as you shared earlier. And I'M A chairman of a couple boards director I've been recently enacted the president of the Computer Society. Here Mike Kids are thriving. It's been it's been ten years. This is actually my ten year. What we call the cancer verse three but my ten year since diagnosis and so my daughter. My youngest was two years time. And she's now twelve and my all three of my kids are doing very very well. My son is in school in university and my other two daughters are here with me and I'm officially officially divorced for years now. An and thriving. I'm doing much better and financially stable. I have a new partner that and building a whole different kind of relationship with a have a network of amazing persons that support me that I can. I can lean on whenever I feel like I need additional help. Have a wonderful circle of friends including new Hanukkah people that are like minded forward saint goes and I have my own company where I get to recreate the tools at us to help me shift my life for individuals and also using some of those same tools to help me work with companies are looking to achieve greatness and it's no accident that it's called epic transformation. Breads are so in order for experience at epic transformation. Because you know speaking no listening to you share. Its share your journey yes. I'm inspired buried and everything and others listening to be inspired by but and it it kinda sound like wall it was just like from eight to be and it was like an instant transition and transformation which. I'm sure it wasn't right What are some of the fundamentals even as you share with Parsons that you consult with and companies that you consult with? How do you move from a place of darkness? Sandown an in that Rut into transforming into being transformed into the life that you want to live the life that that gives you joy because it doesn't make sense here just getting just You know like you're you're on a hamster wheel right. So what are the fundamentals of having this epic transformation that we all want? Yeah well at the core off any epic transformation is you were the individual. I think we we really take for granted how critical it is for us to self audit and to ensure that we are observing ourselves both mentally and physically and coming from that of the Sean is self awareness right and I believe that without that self awareness transportation is not possible so self awareness happens first and then from the space of self awareness. It is creating a vision for the person that you want to become the life experience. You want to lead and when you're creating that vision is not just about putting Papa John. Because he wouldn't even need. Ib John Boarding. Shelly is not is not is just one way of doing it right. But it's really getting your mind programmed around what that new person and that new life experience could be so even if you're upset and stressed when you are in that upset and stress are that contrast experience you want to try to immediately think of what would I like instead initials shift. So you're into misery. Know what misery is what would I like instead and it's not to try to. I want to be happy nor get more grandmother. That goes clear. You're not happy right so what I said. If you're laying in bed all day long will just be great to be able to go outside. You know. Just some low hanging That are the instead of what I have noticed is what I would like and doing that. Type of radicals focus every single day. And it's not that you're GONNA be joyful every single day. It's just that you know that something else. Other than despair misery Darkness exists is at its at knowledge that it's there and looking towards the light always looking towards the light so let me pause right there and ask questions for those who perhaps all live. Every known is darkness. They have no idea what light looks like. You're always in darkness. Then that's what you know. And that's what you even become comfortably Do you even know What is that you that you want? If you've never experienced anything other than that that rotten darkness in dismal state that you're in so the way that I like to look at that is if you haven't experienced it for yourself you are definitely comparing it to something. So what is that thing? Who is that person? Many of us who are stuck in our we see other people we observe other things whether it's through social media through Tv shows or through the just being on the internet or through talking to other persons and seeing what their lives look like. So I don't believe in fake it to make it necessarily but I do believe in spotting a mentor or spotting an opportunity that if somebody else can have it having the knowing that I can have to believe that. Initially you could just eight okay. Hanukkah has this show amd stock wrote. I don't want anything else. What darkness annot handed guy talks to all these people? But that's that's not me. It is taking that first step in your mind it to save but what. I'm using somebody else to model the what if even if you have been to experience it for yourselves so it intrinsic in that argument you've made is that really no money isn't island. We actually need each other so you may not be able to even identify. We're just having a conversation because for me. I recognize many things that I'm doing. Even this very podcast is as a result of a conversation. There are so many things that happen as a result of a conversation. You know I remember having a conversation with Leandra boat going all digital. This is not really We're at intended to go. Because it was supposed to be business regard you know other business ventures but anyway It took a turn started focusing digital took a turn when I spoke with Ingrid for example. And you know let's go online and we have this whole online discussion thing about you know going on nine so it again. What you are saying. Stacy is that it is important to get other people involved. Don't think that you have to do it alone. I like to say you can't call yourself by yourself. Provided very solid very true right and I am everything is possible. Everything is because we are in our world we're experiencing everything we're experiencing the darkness we're experiencing tremendous light and it is in that space of knowing that everything is if my darkness is possible. Light is also possible fifty. I don't believe that the time you can believe ready gone and honestly we could have this conversation for Ian. Because is right up mysteries you know talking about transforming the mind because I s where you start. It has to start in the mind. That's what you know. That's that's where you I identify you. Come up with an idea. Somebody asked me the other the hallways. He's I'm able to do all these things. And and so on and and what it and then as it listen I it starts with a decision. Right it's Disa- John for me. Once I decided to do something once I discuss an emmy that Israel to do it and then followed by. That decision is the fact that I'm the first action. Because you can decide you're you're gonNA do something and not acting on it. That's totally different ballgame right so it's very important That we we we we. We take a decision and take the steps. The first step to to get it done know again. I just want to ask you to close off right here in terms of what I didn't ask you about you. Know the transformation and Song You WanNa share for you do however or after whichever way you want to do it but I also WanNa get from you because your stories on the Internet. It's on you know you're gonNA Google wherever you find you find Stacy Hinds Eerie your larger on your right so so There is something. I won't outlaw for you to share. That is not available online. That you Would BE WORTH. Why sharing so you can rebel share that as also also share you know something about epic transformation that you think could close off or condensation okay. Let's unpack right. I know I'm thinking for sharing that. He he's he's up everything I say. Do not do in an interview. I'm doing okay in terms of just closing epic transformation talking about focusing on you first making sure that you're observing yourself being president of who you are being mentally and physically coming up with that you know what's next the that is on that story of who you want to be and then you know you brought across in terms of taking action on. It's it's taking action. What doing so from a place of joy and not trying to force things because when you try to force things you put yourself back kind of us. Was THIS SEAN OFF. stress and so. It's IT'S DOING. It's taking steps on your action. Movements from a place of knowing that everything is possible. And from a place of joy and fulfillment and not falling back into. Just doing what you think you should be doing because everybody else is doing it but really finding your passion and knowing you can be working in a police off of Sean. I think one of the things that you want to see a ball online is just how much I surrender on an ongoing basis to achieve things that I want and what surrender looks like Hanukkah is letting go of things that don't serve you. I think part of that is not readily available when you look at. Somebody's picture are watched their videos. Read there by Your Cedar. Bios is how much they have to give up along the way and the I have truly lost friendships. I have lost passion projects or given up things that meant a lot to me that I was very attached to in this journey of being more connected to my authentic self and the soul that surrender component is so important for us to recognize that you can you can have. It's all what not all at the same time. And so being able to surrender lawyer self balance in which ever way it comes to. You is something that people may not readily see about me when they look at all of my different things on. Yeah epic Stacey Indeed Ethics and. I am grateful that I get to know you. I'm grateful that I know you story and see how it has changed you for the battle because win live and lemons. We can complain. How sorry to his or we can make a refreshing glass of lemonade and cookies and Belch. Yes so ever really inspired by store. I'm inspired by you. And what you continue to you know to achieve and one of the things I like about you to stacy is that because while we. We advocate for entrepreneurship. I'm a big entrepreneurship advocate and quitting your job to start and so on like the fact that you you are not everybody's one first of all not everybody's miserable in their jobs not everybody wants due to quit their full implemented starts a business and you've shown that you can do what you want balance and you can still be gainfully in you know employed and happily employed while you're doing undecided. Doing your side hosts loon the things that you WanNa do and still Find Joy in all of that so Kudos to you and for showing that there is in fact a different way you don't you don't have to decided to one or the other. You can actually do both if it serves you. Well then fine. I love what you talk about. Surrender to that you know. surrendered to the things. That don't serve you and because one of the things that we have to close Omega one one of the things that I think we struggle with is the ability to let go of things like you know we are so used to conflicts and this could be a whole another discussion on there. I mean who you are right but anyway so we're GONNA clue right here. Stacey down thank you so much for joining. I know that you have some giveaway. I think you have a balance blueprint for or committee and I want you to share that. Also want you to share hall purses me you know find you on social and so into contact with been contact with you so unsocial which is the easiest way to find me. I am on all platforms. I'm unlinked in at Stacey. Hi. I'm on both facebook and Instagram at I am Stacey hines and that's an e y h of the s and you can also visit my website which will point you in every direction that you need to go to. Stacey hines dot com and then you can listen to me on my podcast which I'm going to have to bring you over to come over on me interview. You call the balanced lady boss Duluth. Yes at that's where we talk about all things that really support women in leadership you know whether you're an entrepreneur business owner or you're working inside of an organization we talk about how to make sure that you are approaching your career in a way that promotes life balance mental stability and overall will be and is a blueprint. It's it's geared towards doing. Just what I talk to you about. Get a self audits. I remember we talked about that. Audit naturally has that audit in there where you can kind of check off on. See what am I? Doing that is helping me right now. In my life. Transformation journey and And then it gives us on tools that you can use to move towards becoming more connected to your authentic power and you can download that at balanced boss movement dot com forward slash blueprint that's balanced boss movement dot com forward slash blueprints. Awesome sauce. Thank. You thank you. Thank you so much. Stacey hines thank you for sharing your story and sharing with Sharing with us some tips on how to transform. You know to move from Mediocre to to a very high level. And that's what we all want. You don't WanNa stay at average or below average. You want to move up. Yeah level up is what we want to thank you. Thank you for having me. Thanks so much guys for listening and thank you my performer for tuning in to this episode with Stacy Heinz. I look forward to connecting with you next week. In the meantime my new book. Podcast power the quickstart guide. It's launching and eleven. Your brand is available for purchase on Amazon at Bit Dust League at the I. T. Dot ny slash purchase podcast? Our you were born to win to be a winner. You must plan to win the expect to win.
Going North: Tips & Techniques to Advance Yourself, with Dominique Brightmon
"Hey is jolly Dumez of ego fire and the entrepreneurial you this show for dedicated and passionate Caribbean entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Author Speaker in Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss porter. You must be prepared to ignite. We needed to risk capital but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had real concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business? We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try the Jamaica Stock Exchange? So we made our call an experienced. Transformation of our business through conversations John food seal of Jamaican teas and we're listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight. Seven six nine hundred seven three two seven one to begin your transformation through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange coming up on this episode of the entrepreneurial you formations affirmations are key. Brian Tracy had one affirmation us on the daily one of them. Is that today? Something Specials GonNa Happen to me. Something is going to something special going to happen to me today. Something special is going to happen to me today and could be as small as you having no breath mints chewing gums at a conference after a dinner or lunch break. And you're asking someone else and actually give you the last ticket. Gomer the breath in up. Something wonderful is going to happen to me today. You've got to have rules to live by and one of my knees always as put yourself in danger of something amazing happening to you. Tom Billy you yes. That is actually a good quotes. Live by greetings greetings ingredients. My amazing person may amazing listener. My amazing people former community. I so appreciate you for joining me for episode one hundred and Fifty Five of the entrepreneur. New podcast I'm Hanikos. What kiss portrait. Today's episode is with Dominique Dom Brightman. Dominique is an award winning speaker and certified member of the John. Maxwell team dumb hosts the going north. Podcast a top rated South podcast that interviews authors from all over the world and is also an author himself. His Mansur is advanced others to advance yourself. I'm looking forward as we are going to be talking about going north tips and techniques to advance yourself. Welcome dominy Oh so much You feel I feel good or at before we start chatting about self advancement and Helping others and tips all that jazz. From what you've heard about Jamaica. What stood out to you the most? Oh man a lot of stuff. So that's made the good weather and to make sure you hide when rain combs 'cause rains Kim's be ferocious down arear. Yes sometimes and talk about little weather. I was in California Dan. Oh my gosh. Believe me and it wasn't severely cold but for me it was extremely cold right. So yeah I'd rather is is is great. I I don't do well in coal tar any who. Let's talk about going north. We want some tips and techniques to advance ourselves. We need to get her head. We need to Move forward we need to improve ourselves. I D what does going north even mean. What's that yes indeed? So going north is embracing your dreams while helping others to embrace. There's like to sum it up into the phrase of advancing others to advance yourself because at the end the day were all here. Because of some one ak our parents and we're allowed to be here on this planet as long as we're allowed to be on his planet by the good Lord above in the skies. Some say because if we help others in other seat of goodness they help us to continue to live and succeed in some cases breed. So isn't it just important? You just you know what you want. Get ahead in life and forget everybody else and everything else no. Isn't that good enough. Oh No don't forget nobody those who have been good to you like if you have a mentor in your life will always acknowledged him especially if they're alive like my parents my first mentors especially when my father was the love. I thanked him and heck even John. Maxwell his books have changed my life and he himself mentions L. each change more lives. There is writing in his speech is because I've read his books before ever hearing him speak at gave my teachers themselves at one guy he. Mr Laden in my high school years while I was a senior year is okay ever got a perfect score new tests and I was like on a test would look. Nah never did and he's like. Hey Man if you get one hundred perfect sewer next test with me. I'll buy your lunch and I got a hundred on that test as you can imagine because he saw something in me that I could do it and I didn't see within myself I just didn't have the right focus at the time or I just wasn't thinking that I could actually do it so just being grateful for those who help you to see the gifts inside of you and helping others to unlock their own guy that they within themselves. I mean I'm sure absolutely. We all can identify and find someone who has indeed tossed along the way because Indian no money. No money's on Ireland no man or woman Santillan just a nicely sewn in crochet relays a reality no talking about gratitude right How important is it to to have that to hold that sense of gratitude and to daily? Get up and be grateful but not. Just be grateful for the things that you have but people who would have made you advance in life important has got a like with God. Gratitude Capital Geez. All Day gave him with a hundred grand capital. Geez all day. Was there as well. Gratitude is important especially when you first start your day off because when you wake up in the day if you wake up you already have your first one of the day because someone else didn't get a chance to wake up and if you have full movement as another piece of gratitude because someone may not have all their arms legs they might not have their limbs in especially if you're a caregiver and you still have your ride mind taking care of someone else who no longer has the right mind. That's another thing to be grateful for because a lot of folks nowadays are suffering with especially with the big talk about mental health and requirements. Self care and it's a must self cares a musk. Gratitude is a must and heck even gratitude is a form of self care as well as caring for others. Because if you yourself grateful for your life and you tell us thank you just by simply the door for behind when going into a store place a business or something or even head back to having that buffer mentor in your life. The Nets really gift because gratitude is a gift. It's gratitude you give to yourself and you give others because it shows that you appreciate your life and your pre. She ate everything. That's going to come into your life and you appreciate others out of blessed. Your life talks a boats. We all Canadian defy somebody who has helped us along the way and that one person for me that standards I remember life may going up. I didn't have it all together. You know broken family are perhaps not verify. Everything didn't have it all together but I remember this particular pasta. Who is no my friend Very dear friend of mine who he was the one who you know in. Somebody believes they're the best thing since nice burden and we all need that dinner knives. That person for me was My former minister. No I'd love to hear from you. Know you mentioned yet can do that to your Dad who accept your dad who has been that one person for you who has really stood to kind of help you to see yourself differently and to make sure that you're where you are today mascot of our choice let's see is there's my dad and then heck there's also my mom too because she's basically the first teacher in my life. My first ever like speech coach because like I was growing up as a church boy having to recite scriptures and issued all ways. Basically helped me to make sure that I remember these scriptures neck even my first ever barefoot of a church where we had over a thousand members of once. I'm just writing down. A brave woman actually say bravo the so. I wouldn't actually forget anything in fumble over myself and just having that Smith show later at my first ever coach in something that we all have is at one mother like we only get one and especially if they're goodwin but if you may be one of those unfortunate folks at the time who may have had a biological mother and May of as she probably wasn't in the Right Mon state and she may have left you out to fend for yourself from putsch what you're up for adoption. I mean apologies for that but like real for me. Like that is really. The other person was kind of an easy choice to make arms of graduate. Because I've had I've had coaches I've still have coaches and up at mentors I I've read like tons and tons of books. That have really helped me to really change myself the better but really having that person to actually really take you win and stay with you and actually give you that encouragement to really go out there and actually stay encourage stay focused. Even that was one of the word she used to make recite. Every morning was focused like Saddam. What's the word focus? It's like a Annika was was the word. It could be focused because we all sometimes get off. Course we stay on course and get focused once again on our. Why would we need to do on a life so right so it's very important and clearly you had that phone day Sean? And not just the appearance but You know along the way coaches and mentors and so on and some of US really didn't have that as a phone nation. You know I mean in my own life thankfully I know have a great relationship with my mom of course in star that we right Because of circumstances and you knew you give people grace. Because he recognized that were they. Were at some point in your lives they. Perhaps we're not pleased to meet the best. This is John Evelyn. We all will go through periods in our lives where we don't necessarily make the best decisions ever so for persons who don't have that Foundation you know for helping insolvent into their own advancement and and so on what what are some of the key principles and techniques and tips techniques with tips that we can enter to to make sure that we move ahead. Yes indeed one of them's as alluded to before his reading grade. Books by folks who've ridden those great books John Mexico's One person. Of course they can grow rich. That's another classic book that has helped thousands probably if not millions of people to really change lives for the better. In given a guy by the name of Antonia T SMITH. He is a great author. Wrote a book called so happy and grateful and it's a thick book but it's a fast read in himself he. He's actually one of my mentors because he himself he had was basically homeless at six years old and he basically had to go to school and memorize his homework and book pages because he didn't have the money for books and he really didn't have anyone really there for him so we had to basically memorize the homework. And Lo and behold down the road. He became a multimillionaire celebrity business coach for less Brown as well as a preacher on Galveston Texas because he really stayed focused on what he wanted to create out a life. He was living at a tragedy fans but Dow. He's no longer living in trash bags Actually helping folks to become. There's life is just reading books this bridge stories of folks just like that that can help encouraging others like giving out. Random cobblers the folks. You may see when you're out in the bell like a if so may have a nice dress or sunglasses or kind word with someone even a smile cause some folks haven't had anyone smile them all day or even have accounts with them all day because a lot of folks me see the news and they get the bad part of the world and I keeping that will probably be another tip as wellstone void the news all together because especially if you watch it so much at times of the days the star of Your Day is Kinda lucky hypnosis box. It's really programming. Your mind no one of the call to Hella vision programming. Where the program your mind to think a certain way to speak a certain way. Move a certain way. Well you can always program your mind so move in a different way because you are the captain of your ship abandoned done that through the rave method wear ad read great books again and also audio immersion listening to great. Podcasts like this one and also the visual stimulation visualizing where you want your life to be in keeping positive visual images in front of you as much as possible and of course the e with encouraging others and yourself and sometimes you have to encourage yourself to continue because yeah it's great the wake up but there's some days are like Oh God of so for guitar and like you know what I gotta get up there and make this happen and have to go back to that. Why like for me and my wife's family for the person's listening right now you're Y could be different. Those just a couple tips for folks going through. Not only other folks need encouragement. But you yourself as a will and folks coming to you metaphorically draw from you with your time your attention and sometimes your money depending on the person like you're that they keep your wealth full of water and encouraging yourself and making sure your full before dropping water and everybody else's glasses So talking about encouraging yourself right. That is very very key because it doesn't matter who we are times if we're not careful we get burnt out. You get frustrated. And and why am I even doing this as as purposeful as you might think that you are? We all get to that point right. So how do you encourage yourself dominic? Yes indeed I love. Affirmations affirmations are key Brian Tracy add one affirmation. I use on the daily and one of them is that today. Something special is going to happen to me. Something is going to something special going to happen to me today. Something special is going to happen to me today and it could be as small as you having no breath mints chewing gums at a conference after dinner or lunch break. And you ask him someone else and they actually give you the last two gum or the breath mid in. It's like Yep something wonderful is going to happen to me today. That's one of them. And since a little bit of a pro wrestling fan at one point Chris Jarecki's to say that he is the best in the world and what he does sometimes feeling really good. I like to see. I'm I'm the best in the world. Would I do it really strive to do that? And also asking myself questions one of them is would goodwill I do today or would good. Can I do today? Why there may be times where a may have not follow up with somebody or forgot to send out that. Thank you note to someone just making sure that I set aside a time to write a thank you note to that person or just also calling a friend. Evan talked to on the wall and seeing how they're doing or even like a colleague or friend and seeing how they're doing an even giving a happy birthday coal in addition to a random happy birthday on facebook because yes. Facebook can be a great tool for that for birth. Their mind is but yet having an extra as of giving him a coal because sometimes that Cole or even a text will actually changed her laws for the better because some folks may not even see it coming especially nowadays were on social media on screens all day. Okay so I quite knew that I asked about yourself but yet you is if you defaulted to talking about other people and it it. It says a lot to me says a lot about who you are. And the importance of people in your life Why is that so important? Though to be other focused the fact of being other focused is because I guess really has to go to my Christian roots because Christ himself he gave his life of the sacrifice. And you know what like after really sacrifice my self in a way and servant leadership it's really servant leadership when he come down Zuid because the greatest leaders in the world of those who served. I like Jesus himself he served. I like it serving. Others is really the way to get the most out of your life. Because if you're focusing on helping others in giving hisself some self care in the process the nets really the best thing to do because when you're other focused it takes the focus off you and it lowers your chances of becoming arrogant because arrogance is really where the danger happens because it becomes so arrogant. Then you're really gonNA fall on your face and you might not get back up. If you have that bulls that's the main reason why I'm so other focus because someone else gave their lives while would have eternal wife and might as well share that gift with other folks and that's the ultimate sacrifice and giving other focused as you write for the sea and that leads to segue into what I want to talk about with you. It's the Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs you know because I believe that in talking to both self advancement ultimately we had to Celtic self actualization. So what are your thoughts on that and you know how do you see that theory fitting into what you you propose about. You know self advancement and Which eventually you become Other focuses well in in all of that brewer. Devillier poured yourself the self actualization because the day you were born in the day you know why or two of the most important days of your life because if you're born and you can still tell the tale about while you're born white keep living the neck and really help someone else. Do help yourself a process to really find that interfilm so you know Based on his an unmet needs of course you have the physiological needs you have a need for food and all of those things sleep sexual And then you get to the part that part at the at the top of it where it's all about you know you community and wanting to be associated with you know with with others and groups and all of that so being part of Group. I get that it must be important that you bring your whole self out a whole self as in you know. You're not not not totally broken. You're bringing yourself because that self is going to no impact other people. And what are you bringing to the table? So from that perspective. How important is that is very important? Thing about the whole pyramid with the whole physical needs like the food and water and a shelter thing. It's like Yeah Year. Metaphorically and physically bring other people to the table so they can also get that food water and shelter at the table. We need talk about those tips and techniques and Sawn because essentially that's what we wanted to bring home we spoke about that but also want to to wrap up no and to kind of get a sense from you. What what are you final thoughts as it relates to this subjects and Hokey encourage all of us to be better people. And you know to bring to the table and not just bring to the table but in doing that we express gratitude and also Pitt forward as we go along so your final thoughts on that the band so this to advance yourself kind of like the bow. WanNa give that. It's like a here box. Here and folks are waiting to unwrap you in certain ways and they want to see your gifts unfold and unleash and your gift may be helping others to unlock their gifts. So really giving yourself. That's on Mike even giving yourself just that five minutes a solid today the quad yourself before taking on the world and just being grateful and doing your prayers and your miracle morning activities and really getting censored and then making sure you have a list of folks in your life and heck even sometimes just being open to spirit may be. God speak to you and be like hey this is personal and call that person Jordan. He may need like word is nerd for your may be while a Sore. Nadler somebody and just really being open to spirit. If that's your thing is also weird. Sent an entrepreneur. Just keeping yourself to that voice and acting on that voice because one thing to hear the voice no thing to act on the voice. Absolutely I can tell you about that Or Ain't so as we're coming close dominique. I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SHARE. Because he did say to me that you have Some giveaway do you want to share with my community so go ahead and share that as well as how they might be in touch with you do so offering a complimentary thirty minute. Coaching goal for anybody who wants to become a book. Caster electrical a book castor a author who has a podcast because a book is not enough. If you're trying to at least keep some of that pyramid for yourself in the maslow's hierarchy of needs some foods shots and everything so if you want to write a book start a podcast or do both offering a thirty minute call Mitch. Coaching call for that safe. We're a great fit for that. Feel free to enter to the website dom Brian Dodd. Vip stewed me note. And if you let me know that you heard on Hanukkah's podcast. You might get a free gift in a might not. Just be five pounds once at you to Dominique Brightman. It is so so good to have you today on the entrepreneur. Podcast and I wanNA thank you for your time thank you for spending time with US city lexa Rabbit Hanukkah you rock. Thank you for tuning into this episode with Dominique. Bright month. Look forward to connecting with you next week. In the meantime my new book cast our the quickstart guides launching and living up. Your brand is now available for purchase on Amazon so go to bit dot C. B. Dot ny slash purchase on cast power. And you. Can you very old copy? It's amazing so much. Good stuff sorted experiences in there based on what? I've been blinks. So that's amazing sweetie for you go right ahead and grab it and I also WanNa share with you that you can bring your key to the war's largest one day leadership events for an unforgettable immersive experience yourself and connect with us on seven at school. Tell him stuff live intolerance Jamaica trees Washington. So get your tickets at eight seven. Six eight four nine five remember you were born to win but to be a winner. You must prepare to win too good.
Rise Up and Just Do the Damn Thing, with Tiffany Largie
"Hey as Jolly Dumez of e o fire and it's the entrepreneurial you the chauffeur dedicated and passionate care be an entrepreneur seeking daily inspiration brought to you by Author Speaker Award Winning Entrepreneur Hanukkah watkiss reporter. You must be prepared to ignite wherever you are right now. Like whoever whether you think you have or you? Don't you do at this moment? The greatest in that. You can acknowledge that you're enough and for me when I say that you're enough you're not to get to the next step when I saved. Forget the future version of you. It's not just because the feature version of you doesn't matter but it's like sometimes we get so overwhelmed thinking about the thirty five steps really and truly we just need to focus on one that lands tomorrow one step at a time and if we do enough steps just one step at a time at the end we get to the destination but trying to lead the greatest part of the equation behind. Which is you your experiences your stories. It's not gonNa work because your experience is the one thing that we can't buy in a store. Hi this is Hannibal. I'm so glad you took the time to stop by today in Jamaican parlance wog one. Mcglade say this episode is sponsored by any sport dot Com as well as the Jamaica Stock Exchange now on handcock exported dot com. You can visit us to blogs resources books online podcast courses podcast and more. If you are new to the entrepreneur new podcast be sure to check out past episodes with guests. Such as Johnny Zuma's but trees Washington Seth Gordon Richard Branson Amy Porta field and a host of other game changes. We needed to risk capital but our experience with local financial institutions was that they were cautious and slow to act an interest rates for far too high. We had real concerns about financing our business through outside equity investors on the possibility of interference. Could we get a fair valuation for our business? We had our own ideas about the business and its value. Should I go the traditional route of bank financing or should I try Jamaica Stock Exchange? So we made a call an experience. Transformation of our business through conversations John Food Seal of Jamaica teas and we are listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange. Give us a call today at eight. Seven six nine six seven three two one to begin your transmission through conversation. We want to see your company listed on the Jamaica Stock Exchange and now Harris. Today's episode. Sometimes you can see yourself clearly on yourself through the eyes of Others Ellen Degeneres. Hello and welcome my people for my trust. Not your indeed doing great today. In spite of all the circumstances that are happening around us. Just that you're doing grades and you'll be great even if you're not doing so great right now. I want to welcome you to episode one hundred and Sixty Two of the entrepreneur. Podcast I'm your host Hennigan. What Kiss Porto? Today's episode is with Tiffany Langi. And here's what I have to say about tiffany. No so there's was no magic bullets for coast to coast business and sales strategies for this par- civil woman. She went from being a single mom to building three six. Viggo businesses and onto a seven figure business by the age of thirty two finally began with no capital but share hard work and determination to D- She helps people create the income influence and impact daydream. Off She is the creator of onwards to freedom goop that offers business training and support to idea driven entrepreneur. He's he speaks around the world on Sales Strategy Entrepreneurship and prophets building and has dedicated her life to end small thinking worldwide. That's why I love her and want her to show our topic today as rise up and adjust due to them thing. Welcome tiffany a he do. I am great. I'm great I'm great. I'm so happy to have you on the show. I'm glad to be here super go to be absolutely and Before we came on live. You're telling me that you have some Jamaican route so you know that inspires my next question. Which is what is the most Fascinating thing that you share with others about boat Jamaica. I knew that you were not born here. Based on what you told me but you have your parents and somebody you see balloons were so what's most fascinating thing in your mind. Jimmy Nicholl L- you know I it. That's a tough thing fascinating thing. I mean everything fascinates me about Jamaica. That's first but second. I'm going to say it's the willingness of people to just love one another just because at one of my favorite parts of the country. One of my favorite parts of being a Jamaican or Jamaican descent is we are many people. And it's so true every time I'm in the US or another country. I I go back and I watched the division whether young color or economics or whatever might be no no joke. It's like yes. Of course we have economics going on Jamaica choristers colored but everybody is everybody and there is something just beautiful and human about it and the number one thing the number one thing that I love the most about that country you know. It's a fascinating to me. Tiffany that every time I ask that question like and normally ask some of my guests. We're not dominicans. Or don't have any Jamaica inherited you know something about Jamaica that if visited what they like the most and stuff and so many times their response is the people and that goes to show. How much of a with the nation we are because any country's greatest asset? It's people and if others are recognizing that you know we are you know we. We're we're we're we're awesome. Sometimes we're not even recognize ourselves and it comes with A I think it has a lot to do with their own mindset and Believe fan all of that stuff so I think that points is great enough for us to have that be a launch pad into our conversation mindset. Let's talk about mindset tiffany and how it factors in your own life as you it. It'd be obvious story somewhat of a rags-to-riches story as it. Were you know really? It's not so much as much mindset as it is just what you believe about you because sometimes you know like we can say. I'M GONNA just make up my mind and ongoing to decide ex but the truth of the matter is that I just made a decision to on my value. I mean I was actually born in Miami Florida My parents were both born in Jamaica. My sisters and brothers. My cousins aunts uncles. Everybody's born in Jamaica. I was born in Miami and growing up was one thing but I found myself really really early on. I found myself a single mom. My two daughters eighteen months apart and the truth of the matter is that I was putting them to bed hungry and I felt like the worst person on the planet I mean I felt like I could never get it together. I mean I couldn't make enough money. I could make enough money to put them in school. I couldn't make enough money to pay the rank consistently And I I felt like a you know there are so many days I just didn't even WanNa live once. I made a gentle own my own value because what was happening at that time. Which is what happens to so many of us we get other people who say try to give us their ideas a who we should be what we should how we should operate how we should make money how we should raise. Our children could actually doesn't matter. We just get so many people who have their own ideas in thoughts and emotions about how we should function and the truth of the matter. Is that you walk around. A you believe what other people believe about you instead of asking yourself. What do you believe about you? So if a new talkable your value in owning your value and stuff but before I even explore whether that means when I asked about mindset you did say it's really about what people believe in of themselves so isn't one What the One. Believable themselves dependent on the type of mindset that they have it does it does but mindset. It's it's more of their value system so our mindset who sometimes our minds can be influenced but it's really what's inside of our heart that actually influences our minds you had no because it's just our value system kind of what we believe about us without anybody else's boxer ideas involve Arizona accent absolutely. I think we're coming back to the To the same belief so we won't Belabor that but I wanted to explore a little bit about owning your value and one that had to mean for you in practical terms i. It wasn't just something that you thought about it and say hey I'm going to own my value but for somebody who is going through a rough time. Perhaps some of those same experiences that you had you know putting your kids to bed. Hungry and and stuff like that What does owning your value means in their contexts. So so much it's I. We have three parts to us. We have the good parts of our story. We have the bad parts of our story and then we have the ugly parts of our stories so a lot of time were willing to share the good in the bat of our story but it's the ugly parts of our stories that have the lessons and what's real about that. Is that the ugly parts of our stories. They also hold the shame they hold the rejection. They hold our fears they hold our insecurities. I mean they hold just about everything. So what happens there? It's like the more that we run from the things that were ashamed up the more we run from the things that make secure the more that we run from the things that we're afraid of the world to find or to know about us is the more rerun from ourselves and the more we run our own value because the core who we are is in the ugly parts of our story and so what is one ugly parts of your own story. Would you say that you know you wanNA share with us so that you can inspire and and Ho? Did you use parts of your story to infants and motivate? The person you are. Today I used to sit and believe in the ideals of what other people thought that my life should be and once I started to own my own value and be proud of the things that I was once ashamed up that came from me being willing to share my story so I started talking about the ugly parts of my story instead of keeping them in the underneath the bottom or behind. I made point to put them in front. I made a point to put them on in in front of everything. I did everything I said. Every person I connected with every person that I hired and it it became not necessarily this thing that I was most proud of but it became part of my truth because real connection and real growth comes from US owning the truth. Not Hiding from it. Right on the sensitively. So and so one example of that ugly part of you story that you've actually you know used an insured. What would that be so that you can also be something to to Mozambique because we won? I don't want is for you know to have a A generalized conversation but if we can pinpoint that for example not just a good on. The bad are the bad but one of those examples what you would consider to be ugly. I wanted to die all the time. A majority of every week lie hated so much. I hated lifestyle much. I hated everything about it but I loved my children and I just couldn't figure out what would happen to them if I went. I couldn't figure out what would happen to them because I was like it. Would they end up in foster care? There's no one to take care of them. So I could tell people I could make it sound different. I could say I was depressed. I was unhappy very sad. But that's not the truth that would be me scratching the surface and that's because I know some somewhere some you know where somebody's going to be listening to this conversation and somebody is going to be able to see. I can relates even as I sit behind this. Microphone Talking With You. I can say I can relate and so you know it is very important as you've said that we own those ugly parts of us on the part that it's not It's not you know it's not pretty. You know nobody necessarily wants to go and ensure that but I also know that disturbs that we go through there. Never for us a loon. They're meant to enable others to recognize that there is in fact a light of the end of the tunnel and so that light of the end of the tunnel for you. What was it what was it? How did you get to that lights? It's like if I get to light number one and then you get to light number two so my first. My first light was on being able to own my value enough to start a business. Starting a business was my only way out of my solution. My problem and it was the solution because there is no way a job was not going to give me enough money. I may ten dollars in twenty two cents an hour and ten dollars. Twenty two cents. An hour was sixteen hundred dollars a month. But it's a thousand dollars per kid to put them in preschool in that that you know I'm not even talking about rent or food or medicine or any of that stuff. So my light at the end of the tunnel was my willingness to own my own value enough to go and just start talking to people and ask them to buy a product or service for me and we all know. Entrepreneurship is not an easy. Road is not a better rule. So you've decided that you know what I'm going to start a business. What were some of the challenges that you had at that initial stage? Because I'll I want to make the assumption or maybe I should make the assumption whether or not you had experience doing business at some point there another. Did you have experience running a business at any point all the way I learned how to start a business in the way I decided the very first business I should start is I went to the bookstore and the bookstore had one of those businesses. I mean had one of those books that had a best businesses top fifty businesses to start for under a hundred dollars And then another section that said Under five hundred under a thousand in. I just looked at every opportunity that they talked about under a hundred and I honestly just chose one of those and my very first business was in making gift baskets and I borrowed. The money borrowed the twenty dollars from one person fifty from another until. I got to one hundred and I bought a re thing that was on that list every single thing on that list and I started a basket business in the worst part about it is that I'm not even creative. I on Maura. Black can't tie a ball. I couldn't tie. The wrapping. Paper was horrible at that stuff but it said that I could make fifty thousand dollars a year in that fifty thousand was way better than what I was looking at my ten dollars. Twenty two cents an hour and so obviously you wanted to do something you found a way. I mean if you need from own experience if you need something badly of you will find a way and so you've fallen away. And that was your first business you know creating making baskets and stuff What were some of the the the the things that you had to implement you talk about the processes of marketing and and getting other people involved. And how did you do it initially and all of that? Because I don't want to get the sense of the journey that you have been on. Yeah so every single business of to getting fifty thousand getting to six figures and getting multiple Figures all three things. The same principle apply so if money doesn't come to you you absolutely have to go to it and when I went in started a I've made a few baskets and then I thought to myself will now. What because I wasn't gonNA build a website. I didn't have a clue about how to build a website back then. I didn't know anybody who knew how to build a website. So there's no way I could sell on the internet which means that I had to go and sell myself so I took the basket and I went. I went door to door with the basket to apartment complexes and two new homes that were being built in Florida and I got somebody to be willing to drive me around. Because I didn't have a car so I got someone to be willing to drive me around. Why put my two kids in the backseat? And I went and I knocked on doors and since then you have started more than one business. You started three businesses right. What are what are the other businesses that you've created so the eye your we're going. We're starting from sixteen years ago so by very first business that got me to around. Forty thousand wasn't gift baskets and then I left that and I started an event planning business and that's a story on itself but I had a retail store in Miami Florida and we did events. We decided weddings. We had tons of wedding dresses that we rented out in ton of Tuxedo. Dresses Dresses Tuxedos and And I that was my very first six figures My second business was injust hardware hardware for offices just regular offices in Florida and then I left and I got into the hardware and software industry where my business partners were Xerox Corporation and Hewlett Packer. Anything that related to hardware and software and I built that business with no money. We started I started by knocking on doors. I mean I went to back to the basics and sometimes in business when you're starting over when you're trying something new you go back to the basis and the difference for me was up until that point. I had built a handful of six-figure businesses and I made a lot of cash. The truth is that there comes a point where you have to understand that. There's a big difference between making cash making money and from me. I was like man one day. My Middle Child. She got really sick. She had pneumonia in the hospital for about thirty days. Now I'm sitting with her in the hospital when I get out of the hospital with her and I have this crazy moment because I'm like wait. What what are all these bills doing here in my mind? I made a lot of money but the truth of the matter is that my money was only tied to me getting up and going back out knocking on doors so I really even yes I I made six figures I really had just created a well paying job after that point I was like I got to figure out how do these other people that I read about in magazines. How do they take off a month of work? How do they travel in still run their business in have their company make money so two thousand in ten or two thousand nine really? I started thinking about it but in two thousand ten. I left the state of Florida. I went to North Carolina because I heard there was low market share in this industry and I started all over again with zero dollars and I went back to the basics. I literally went and started knocking on doors all over again that year. We hit a little over a million dollars in. It was the difference of me Lee abandoning the concept of just making cash and being well paid for a long period of time to building a business in having an asset out of what I was doing. No you're going your group on woods to freedom About yeah so in two thousand fifteen I just got honestly. We were doing a couple million dollars. We had fifteen employees in three offices in. I just started hearing about this whole coaching industry. And I have never really heard of it Because we didn't hire anybody in. I really didn't read books or go to webinars or seminars or any of that stuff because I was really off the Internet and we had old school tactics and two thousand fifteen. I made a decision to sell my company out of nowhere because I got tired of hearing the industry teach one or two things. We were teaching a person to go and build a business but the coach who was teaching had never really built a business before. And if it were like it. If it wasn't that it was I found someone teaching another person how to make one hundred fifty thousand but they hadn't mastered how to make thirty thousand dollars yet and I was like what is happening out there and for me you know all I could think about honestly all the great people who were out there who were fighting for their own dreams like I was like. I just wanted to stop putting start putting blood in my kids the table like I just wanted to stop going to bed hungry. That's why I started a business so no. It wasn't about the four hour workweek. It wasn't about buying certain car. Having a certain lifestyle was honestly just about getting out of being broke inside to sell my company in two thousand fifteen and teach full time now. I had zero clue that I would be in the midst of statement. Call do the damn thing but I I started telling my story back then. On stage in one stage turned into five stage turned into ten stages turned into fifty turned into a hundred stages and we now have a worldwide movement called. Do the damn thing and where do the damn thing nation just about everywhere And it's kind of crazy because I look back and I think to myself man. How did we do that? And it's one hundred percent by me just being willing to tell all of my story the good the bad and the ugly thing. Yeah it's it's it's. I'm still baffled so so person look at you know and perhaps you know they don't have the back story that would have brought you to this point. What would you would? You encourage someone to rise above the challenges that they're faced with and just as your community is all about. Just do the damn thing. Would you encourage that? You know to navigate the twists and turns to to get to. Where want to get to you know for me. I might my one simple statement in thought for that person is forget who you might be in the future embrace who you are right now. That's it forget who the future just embrace who you are right now because that is amazing you know. I mean Tiffany. It sounds very simplistic and simple. What you said but even as I listened and this is why I love podcasting so much. Because you're you know even as a host you get your guests and they're right in your ear and vice versa. Right and you've said it and it's just so powerful because we're living in an age where we are not being present right and I think even the Curl Navarro's is gonNA teach us a lot about being present. Were living in an age where we're not really being present. We want to get to the next fees and so we're not honoring out the steps to take to get there but we're also not honoring. We're where we are in the process. We're always in a hurry to get to the next phase and we don't recognize the face that we are right now is the fees we want sprayed to be at in many instances. Yeah so that's true. That is so true. That's exactly right. We prayed for it. And we're here and we're not even acknowledging it absolutely. I'm going to give you an opportunity at this point because we're about to wrap up so no fee to share your final thoughts. Perhaps I neglected to ask your particular question. There's something on your heart you wanted to share some. GonNa ask you at this point. Just wrap up with your final thoughts. Hope to rise up and just do the damn thing and just You know when I say the damage very American but Jimmy do the damn team. Yeah different thing or or accident or intonation is different so rapid with that as well as Sharhor Committee may reach out to you. Absolutely I love you for that so much. I want you to know like my hand on my heart. I love you so much for that so wherever you are right now like whoever whether you Thank you have or you. Don't you do at this moment? The greatest in the knowledge that you're enough and for me when I say that you're enough your enough to get to the next step in when I saved. Forget the future version of you. It's not just because the feature version of you doesn't matter but it's like sometimes we get so overwhelmed thinking about the thirty five steps really and truly we just need to focus on the one that lands tomorrow one step at a time and if we do enough steps just one step at a time at the end we get to the destination but trying to lead the greatest part of the equation behind. Which is you your experiences your stories. It's it's just it's not gonNa work because your experience is the one thing that we can't buy in a store. Your experience literally is the fact that exist in the world in the history of this planet there has never been another tiffany argue and there will never be another tiffany Larquie which means if I'm going to really distinguish myself in the market. I got to start with my story. Got To start with me. There will never be another you and because of thing because of that fat you are truly the greatest asset truly the greatest asset that you have in any equation that you're trying to build the I one hundred percent start with you. I just as you are interesting. And you know Before you share your contact details also will be sharing with us That that seventeen days of building a store because we all have a story and truth is we don't always know how to present that story and knowing that it perhaps one of our greatest asset so you can share where we may contact contact. You get that That option that you have as well as we need generally contact you absolutely so I'm going to give you three number one. Come hang out with us on facebook. We are do the damn thing. Nation the super easy to find us. Ed just about anywhere or connect with me. At as Tiffany Margie. Now I have a theory that not only. Do we have the ability to Biller story? But we have the ability to frame it. Because if you don't tell your story someone else will. Which is why I'm giving you the seventeen days of building your story foundational journey and you'll get it by opting in or signing up at dreamers wanted here dot com. It's GonNa take you down the path where you get to watch and think through and then work on not just your story but you're beginning your middle and your end to the point where you are right now and I promise you. If you type in you'll be able to figure out. How do I take my story and then go find the best person for me to walk through? How do I take my story and build the perfect products and offers four my community? Have I take my story and build a movement? Oh my gosh. Par packed information of just how to rise up. And just do. The dancing are the whereas get to downtown. Yeah Jimmy on an Haaretz. That that's the core of right. It is well. It's part of my story. Komo NO YEAH. Oh my my son. We had thank you so much. Different argue thank you. No thank you and my people form it. Thank you. Thank you for tuning in this episode with Tiffany. Shula look forward with the next week in the meantime. Benin time fees. I WanNa hear from you. Go to walk escorted com as you know. There's a what's up. I Con Rights on that page on the bottom of the bottom of the home page. You can't send me a message. And he comes directly to my phone. I really really want to hear from you. You mean a lot to me that you spend time anytime at all of this episode to myself. My guess what we have to share. It means a lot. You're not picking transit. You are valuable. I appreciate it so thank you so much onto next week. Remember you were born to win but to be a winner you must Panta win preparing to win and expect to win what good.