25 Burst results for "Jamaa"

"jamaa" Discussed on The Bitboy Crypto Podcast

The Bitboy Crypto Podcast

07:05 min | 3 weeks ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Bitboy Crypto Podcast

"Warning what you're about to see is shocking. Sex, I gotta say, I think your AUM is positively correlated with the bags under your eyes. Have you mean it's getting bigger? I mean. They're heavy. They're heavy, dragging you down. That's where you're hiding all that Solana in your under your eyes. You better clear that Solana position. What's your lockup? 24 months? No, he's trying to sell it to me on text message. Yeah. Of course. We're negotiating discounts. I just had the fact that the whole thing up. Bro, you don't think just keep on holding. I'm holding. You think I buy hundreds of millions of dollars of anything without a discount? Everything is a discount. Everything's discounted. You want to clear that position in an LLC. Are you saying I got a $1 billion of Solana? No, bro, I'm saying. But you know, I brought it at a discount. But you're holding, correct? Ish? Yes. Yeah, me too. See, this is exactly what we need to keep out of crypto. This is going to be from October 8th. Just a few weeks before the all time high of the crypto markets. VCs are the villains. Their virtually all bad and virtually all Chad fi elitists. And this clip here shows why their villains. Chmod pal happily, laughing in our faces about dumping their bags of Solana on retail. And retail investors listen to this podcast and they support it. It's time when you say no and reject these bad actors. Chamath even gets his team to dump on you. So he doesn't have to. They tend to have the ability to do whatever they want. And then what I tend to do is just think about when it gets above like, to me, I need to see the chance to make at least in the rough justice around, you know, 500 to a $1 billion. And then I'll get involved. But otherwise, they just kind of run the whole thing. It kills me to see these VC guys have such a strong opinion on crypto that's affecting retail decisions. But listen to how unrelatable he is to the regular retail investor. He basically said unless they're going to make 500 million to a $1 billion, they just let their team run it for them. Keep in mind when you trade crypto, you don't lose money. They take your money. It was known for being a bully during his time at Facebook. And now you, the retail investor, has become the bullies, new target. And do you seriously want to be bullied by this guy? These are the same guys who think that they should have a say on how Bitcoin should and shouldn't be regulated also. Once again, they want to control regulation because it benefits them. That's trad 5 for you. I can't even believe he said that. Of course, Jamal wants Bitcoin to be regulated like a security. Because it's in his self interest for it to be like that. These VCs do not care about you. They would rob an old lady on the street if they thought it could make them an extra buck. Of course, if jamaat could beat up an old lady, I had my doubts. These types of trap 5 guys are guys, that don't even really pay attention. You see, they have a team that trades for them, who dumps their bags on you. They're poison to crypto. And if they're going to stay around anyways, it sure as heck, don't need to be anywhere near regulating. First of all, there's some talk that, you know, what is it called zeli? Is that how you pronounce it? The inner bank payment system. It's not zelie. Who says zelie? Does it sound like a guy? You want to listen to? Remember, he's not paying attention. He has a team that does everything for him. That's why he doesn't know how to pronounce. So, and none of these guys correct him on it. In this clip, chuma talks about how Visa and Mastercard are basically failing by raising fees. He also mentions it in the beginning that you could short these payment platforms. And then he shamelessly shows solano. Because he's on the inside. He gets his tokens at a discount. And he gets to look under the hood as he called it. This man's never looked under a hood of a car in his life. Now keep in mind on April 16th, 2022, he talks about how Solana pay is going to dismantle Mastercard and Visa. Look at the timeline there. Keep in mind, these trans 5 VCs who want to regulate crypto, who laugh about dumping their bags on you. These VCs owned a massive amount of solano. He showed salon on the 16th. No surprise, pumped 10% within a handful of days. And after that, boom. It's down 65% later. Do you really think jamaa had the diamond hands in May or June? Or did he take retailers money as exit liquidity? That's your money. He just took to the bank. Of course, another guy in crypto that is a trad 5 guy that we need to get rid of. Is your pal Kevin O'Leary? My dear friend. Now, some people may not know how I feel about Kevin. But check out how Kevin feels about Bitcoin. Try and do a transaction over a $100,000 of Bitcoin. I tried to do some real estate in Switzerland with it once. It is a useless currency. It is a useless currency. That's what I believe. I mean, look, you know, I realize people have different opinions, but to me it's garbage. Garbage, huh? Nice. But then he started getting involved in crypto once he realized how much money it was worth. Then he took a $15 million payment to be a spokesperson. For FTX. He did know it at the time, but in that deal, he was debate when it came to the Shark Tank. How hard he backed FTX has ruined his reputation permanently. Understand, he makes his money off his image of his reputation. And he put that in a blender way before he ever picked a bone with me. All the people who looked up to him for advice to look to him to know what to do, well he chewed them up and he spit them out. And still definite SPF after everything in crashing down. Anyways, if you ever wondered how Kevin O'Leary feels about money in the first place, I couldn't give a damn about somebody's feelings when I'm talking about money because money has no feelings. This is all crap. It's not the tears don't mix. Get over it. Life's hard. Money doesn't care. Your tears don't add any value. We're not going to talk about Kevin O'Leary in detail today. But what I'll tell you is this. There's a lot of dirt on him out there. And you know what? I know some of it, but sometimes you just let idiot talk and do it to himself. So let me ask you, do you believe that the potential benefits of crypto are so promising that we should accept weaker anti money laundering rules? And weaker compliance from crypto firms than we require from banks from brokers and from Western Union. No, I think we should apply the same regulatory structure that we apply to existing trading of stocks and bonds in exchanges tied to broker dealers. That is not complicated. It's already been implemented. In other countries. And so I take issue senator with your concept that it makes it easier to do money laundering. Currencies have been used for drug trafficking suits since the 60s.

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"jamaa" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

02:50 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast

"That without like woods. Had some huge he had the rushing touchdown touchdown forty yards. When you miss out on a robert woods. Big game you're kind of kicking yourself over because there aren't as many of those as there used to be. Yeah well woods has scored. I wanna say at least eleven. Pr now is not good. But he's had i think eleven or more. Pbr points in alba one game so he rarely do i. Yeah he ran on the next four game or the next three games for devante smith. Yeah chargers at denver new orleans. That's not good zach. Good i don't. I don't know if it's particularly good for jalen hurts either. I see i just think next week. It's likely the chargers are going to score a bunch of points against philadelphia. And so jalen hurts going to throw a bunch. I have a bad run defense. And i think early in the game that philadelphia would rightly. Try to run the ball against them. But i would expect thirty five. Plus attempts from jalen hurts next week which probably means ten eight ten targets for daunting smith. Hasn't been there. Yeah he's hasn't been that good with the targets. That's kind of the issue definitely part of the problem. I'm not dropping it. I'm not dropping me. I just think there's too much potential but Those rhino five games that they have against the jets the football team the giants and the cowboys. The eagles are in the playoff race. As long as you get those five games at the end of the season. I feel you get to eight losses. You're in it. Yeah that's true okay. i got a segment called. Let's get it started in here. That's a song the black eyed b.'s. Good song you should look it up. And i'm going to give you a bunch of players and tell me if you think that week. Eight was a springboard for their season. We get it started with them in terms of rest of season value. Michael carter tatum hill. Justin fields thirty one percent roster twenty-seven fantasy points the sickest run of the year basically ridiculous down. Run one hundred and three rushing yards and a touchdown today. And i'm gonna throw in chihuahua. Agnew in there. Because he's had three three games in a row with five to six catches touchdown today. Michael carter tastes hill. Justin fields jamaa agnew. Let's get it started in here. Are these guys getting started on a very strong fantasy finish. I think we can say yes to carter. I wonder if even wins. Ac wilson comes back. It'll be an edict from the coaching staff in new york to say let's get this guy the football in space. Let's check it down a little bit. More zach wilson. Don't have big eyes. Outfield neutralized pass rush a little bit us. You're running backs more than the passing game. Because that's the one thing that's really helped. Michael carter it almost feels like it gets them into a rhythm a little bit more in the game. It's just being involved in the passing game. So i say yes. I think that this is absolutely a jumping off..

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"jamaa" Discussed on The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

17:57 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

"Casey runaway away. So you want with then things get lost. Two thousand is low freeze till much time on all the planes block. Mela moms and move on how rule she saw man made that aubanel. Nfl all one new Pillow hi my name is alison newburgh from jacksonville. You're listening to the soul of jazz with jamaa. Asthma deep sir. Give michelle matched scott sad. Want you to see cluses shows up. It's all show sneaky Got.

"jamaa" Discussed on The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

05:37 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

"Couple of units coupla four or five win start to at least that was good office. Run there did not score jim jamaa. What's that all about. Mc didn't want to get him in zone in green bay and his return. there. I saw aaron started targeting. Randall cobb pretty heavily in one and then actually did that. He got an area. That was a tough hit. I don't know how that's gonna go. Hopefully he's back there but jamal williams though totti's what's going on with them. Cd doesn't care about his players. I dunno arena. aaron jones. Play out just doing. The thing can go from that point on now but that play mcvay used to run a playoff time with the little touch off. Oh you're talking about the little odd about the role. I'm talking about the little touch stare. Joe ron williams do that somebody whenever the green bay packers defense stopping anybody early. I mean gets payback. You know a little bit of jamal back in your life. Green bay packers. What's that all about. Dc not about the players. I don't think we can blame asana. Mc dc they needed a touchdown in any way they could get it and see. I was on fire. Y'all wanna him hodgkinson's always in the end zone and him but since very straight cat he's very good in that fourth down. That was really the game when they didn't get that fourth-down hawk was wide open. But we just couldn't get to well. I mean it's always your sous. That's what mike glennon has been in the nfl about that golf on you know you thought slipped out of his hand but i as lying. It's actually saw. The calvin johnson curse comb from scott that the packers can have. Calvin johnson is a real thing and it is not being addressed properly. I've seen that game from the lions one million times. They do that every single time. I said it to ties. They weren't as close in the beginning. Everyone is gonna lose their minds and then air will come out at halftime in score right out of halftime like he always does. We'll make a mistake score again. Hey you guys one elected to receive by the way ask you actually asked for aaron to get it in the second half which i respect because if aaron comes out by the way if that offense comes out that i drive and does exactly what they did. That place is probably going to be. I mean not that it wasn't crazy. Lambo packed again by the way. Good for you guys out. There cheeseheads absolutely awesome. But he comes out there. He's gonna do what he's got to do. So i'm cdc had to make a decision they're like okay. Do we want get a big stop man or do we take offense out there and try and they did. Well only look good. But aaron did come out and i mean it was just. It was yeah. It was it was also wrote. I mean you got. Aaron scored four touchdowns. Give me a break. Big bob tightening get laser beam to his arms in the end zone. I mean davante. Adams didn't get his. They were looking for him a couple of times but he's still an absolute. I mean it feels like the conversations of aaron rodgers thinking a footballer over. But by the way i think lions played a lot better than i thought they were going up at heart to heart man or team flight. Berg beat by fifty man. What seventeen eighteen hundred you earn. He only got ball five. Six times scored every time but may our whole fucking good great to have that guy. He's about what did. Mcc after the game. That gosh fucking hard marrone digs was a lot of money made last night or lost by the sports books i i felt like all the people that were like maybe sharp too sharp. Maybe sharps are mainly sharp. Feels like they were all in on sharp's by the way what we're going with. Sharks is the original song unless you're talking about Jamie talk jamie. Welcome back by the way really. It is good to have him all doing love. That love that guy. It felt like the sharp stone. Half online's it felt like that was where a lot of the most public was on them to on the lines as well. Oh really so me. In the sports books had a great night last night. Yes that's awesome. What did you go on. Devante adams over yards. How many of you get one hundred seven. Did he did not get the over eighty seven. So yeah i mean devante adams. Aaron are always going to be good to go. Yeah i mean anytime. You got two people sharing instagram Things it's our last dance right. Did you see the fly over video. It was amazing. So aaron rodgers and davante adams are standing next to each other fly comes that might have been the biggest fighter jet. I've ever seen them all around. It was the it seemed to be about fifty three and a third wide. Wow look at maybe not fifty three but because fritzy third how wide the field is as it flew over. it looked like it was the entire size. Like the jumbotron on the top and it was one point and it was moving and As it's obviously has a national anthem sending in the shot is just on aaron and devante next to each other and you see and look up and then the shot goes up the thing and then he comes back to in and end handhelds crazy up and go and it's like these to really like each other. These do really like playing football with each other like that. Is something that andrew luck and t y hilton always said like hey i like point football with you like it is a lot of fun and if you go back to like when you're a kid and you actually played pick up pond stuff like that when you played with a guy that was so good or so much if you were a quarterback or the wide receiver. It was so much fun. I never really think about that until i heard andrew into y like say..

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"jamaa" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

Cincy Jungle

09:01 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

"Joe doesn't do anything to audible or get the plays up that's like a third is a big third down like in the second quarter but there's a lot of that coming out like three different times in the game where they're failing to communicate is not just guys getting sheer beat out one on one now later in a game around the three pick time yet pressure on space. He's he's he's throwing out of desperation. That's desperation throw. Bad pocket offers line federal. So those are the two things. But they're all on the office align because at the end of the day. I always come back to this. The deepest bought out the deepest looks so much different. And you look at this game so much different if the bengals just have any type of points on the board. They dominated them. At the line of scrimmage montgomery probably ramp at three point five of carey made like absolutely dominated him. It would've been even less because if you get them in a position where you noted they have to pass. The game is over if picks that ball up in goes ten seven. Just ten seven against them dues allen robinson is there only legit threat that you just have to figure out something like what do you want to do. Once you saw montgomery front in that was done in zach not being aggressive is going to be my third one and it's not even like being aggressive to the point. I just want you to aired out aired out. No this is a concept that happened in my mind. I guess. I'm just hoping that it comes to in real life when we'd rather jamaa chase which drafted him to call plays in Unorthodox secrets pay attention to like your grandfather's grandfather. Your mom grandmom and autumn. People told us i down second now. Renna football beat. That's how you you know you win. Football games rentable running. The football is two thousand. Twenty one is not just running. The football on first down in being super predictable is going play accent. I when you win win the game is close in the defense in the defensive edges are like khalil. Mack have to figure out. What do you wanna do. They don't know that you're going gonna throw the ball. He messes up a fourth quarter. We're still gonna play accident at that point. He's trying to go play accent. I know you can't do that in the fourth quarter because they know that you're throwing the football so all you're doing is taken away time of your dropback you'll drop back. Time went from three seconds now to two point two seconds because now you don't play actions at bad times dash. Was that taylor to know like come on like these aren't first graders out here. This isn't literally football in that regard. So he's got to understand like the situation the big third down. 'cause you can't like i say early. You can't have wide receivers coming down the line with key blocks. If that's going to be that way. Make sample that person. But it can't be a design with that later and again even the higgins outright. I hate the fat that they're not smart enough to say let's schema guy open or figure out a pick play or something like that to get a guy out openness space and make a make a play in a relying on higgins. Did you a three and out in sort of guy sitting on an zone joel. Burrows throwing it because he knows like actress higgins. And i'm gonna do that. But the coordinator is the coach's job to make sure that higgins is in a position. Where joe isn't putting his faith out on the line that pick is just the faith throw he's like i know him beat him. The guy holds the hell out of hagans or whatever and it is what is own third entity. Didn't get the guy wholesome but on the other one just reads it because he's already in zone is not mad covers so joe has to know that when he throws in the coaches need to aid them in that in that process. Because eddie re doesn't just do that right there like you know. That's that's the difference with me. Good play calling in calling and those are those are like mockery points. I don't know if i made those like really clear but when we read the jamaa is because we're going to do things in unorthodox secrets you still run the football a lot. You just run the football and second and third because you're willing to go forward on fourth down anyway and the bengals are constructed. Uk deviate from analyst sunday. Now i'm with you. I think So on the play colin thing. I was the second pick. I think it was where jalen jasna sit on that route. That is definitely. i think we're playcalling comes into play. I remember trying to earlier in the game. And i was like it wasn't there there was no separation. You kind of went back to it again. So i i get that one another planet that i wanted to bring up because you talked about a pick play. There was a play early in the game. Why believable was played played. Receiver went inside. Cj zoema went up the side of the field and jonesboro missed missy. J. us around wide open light. Cj you probably would've scored a touchdown. Let the broadcast. I was watching. They were just like whoever was on the bears blue at assignment and they both went inside on receiver and see who's almost just running light wide. Open down the end of the end of the same so they just got to get on the same page. I agree with the play call. And there were certain things where i was like with jalen jocelyn probably knows this route. 'cause you guys keep running it and he just was waiting for the opportunity that just kinda pick it off. And they're just like like you said zoomed gotta get on the same page as far as the offensive line. Joe borough and the play colin if they can get that together the naked avoi- games like this and it's probably not saying some getting used to chemistry but they gotta take those shots. Were gotta do what they can to try to extend plays in. Put up points in this league because this is a game will point. I got another superhero. I know we've had a lot of not able to show all of them. I have been able to show him. I haven't been able to address them. Because i didn't want to interrupt anything right but we'll do a quick run off the investment in the defense paid off the only reason we were in that game offense scoring twice out of how many drowsy boroughs worst game in the was or will this game was. The offense is fought period. What we got from my man. I think that's j. Saw thirteen. I had another one brandon. Monroe he says that joy be higgins will play angry next week rowdy every lap. Appreciate you as well bro. After two dams is hard to imagine that jackson carmen. Being any worse than xavier's alot has been at pass block got us where xavier salafi love messed up. a lot of people were talking about. He whiffed on a couple of blocks. And i just like. I saw two different bags that were really bad. But it was like miscommunication dot com in a blitz. Coming in the guy was cooking and they're just picking up the wrong guy that happened having three more times a day and it was something where you know. I'm hoping that the hood they're teams. Don't see it. But one of the places that i remember was like the outside guy i think. It was khalil mack. He faked like he was going outside then came inside xavier. Dan pick them up and he runs right into the borough in the same thing happened to john on the left side. The dude did the same thing you got to like. He was going out. Came in on me really confused i. It's just really crazy. Jamaa chase has some strong comments. After this i don't know if you've seen any of these tweets stock about what he was saying. You know like. I'll i'll pull up one of them but for the most part he was saying. This is a really confident calm comment. He said because you remember that other play where he beat the guy. Easily at the line of scrimmage and it was a job where those. That's a terrible throw by a job. That's another six points where he did but he said we waited are quote. We waited until the last minute to take shots. Said the communication has to be better offensively. he also said He beat the corner off the line. I don't know if you've said all game or is misquoted. But he said he'd beat the corner line per usual. You know in in quote. And i'm only saying that he's seeing what i'm saying early in football games in there in a half to get together and say look. We need to come out of these games. Strong in in embiid. Strong sometimes isn't just taking deep. Deep shots on fly patterns is double moves. Early is different things just to put the fear into. Somebody's defenses at the end of this show today. We're gonna talk about the steelers a little bit but is is been aggressive which are play call early on in not so conservative it. What happens is you get a lead. And i wish i wish that. See this. i hope we seizes our hope somebody on staff. Caesar's you get a lead with these guys in the mix is running like the way that he's running right now..

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"jamaa" Discussed on The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

06:36 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

"He knows that system. He knows what they wanna do on offense and he had him in position to win that game. You know. it's tough to start in this league as a rookie. I think all three of the starting a rookie quarterback's loss and he had them right into fourth. Quarter are running. Back fumbled late and that kind of costs in the game x. Howard picked up the phone. We'll you know turnover machine corp. Good he looked good. I would say he looked the best out of the three guys and started. Has that wissam. Struggled against the panthers in triple norris who have made some plays struggled against the texas so i think the future is bright out magazines up their new england. And they'll be right. Hey there's a lot of non patriots shit last couple of years. Your money bought non patriots shit but last year we saw hoyer obviously get sacked and going into half. No timeouts left field goal range. That's just one situation. But that's something the patriots never did like. Hey that's not. What the patriots do there was a couple of other things. This game fumble going in three minutes left in the game. Formats upton game down one on the ten yard line. I mean you're obviously feel the folklore. Nick volks back in her. That ball's gonna go in there fumble. They lose that game after the game. Jc jackson talk shit onto after losing. It's like there's a lot of things happening in. New england doesn't normally happen d but yeah bulletin bulletin board materials have been a big no no out there. Are jackson obviously a very good player. And this is a great team. That's they're to see Later in the season. So as you know enough fumble. I mean boss security. That's the best way to the doghouse. Running back or anybody curious out so very uncharacteristic deal. But it's football men i. It happened teamed up at onto. The vikings dow call of late is willing that game when overtime they lost so our. It's happening especially early in the season. And that's the team that's a coaching staff. And that's a locker room at outbid on to get those things fixed a bunch of games this year. I guess we shouldn't overreact too much. Speaking of the vikings bengals game shot. Mcbrayer game-winner new. I ever if auguin dude that's awesome. He was slaughtering. Football's zack taylor. Fourth and one on your own twenty nine up. Fourteen in the vikings have looked dead. Yeah i agree. Okay you can say bingo. You can say bill gut sack but literally it. You pick that up you continue to go you go up seventeen or twenty one awesome. Obviously that is awesome. That is what you're looking for. But god damn the vikings will dead. There was nothing happening. All they needed was a little bit of a smart as soon as that happened. Feeling with a touchdown thing. We're back in their kicker greg. Joseph slaughters to fifty yards or senate thing to overtime. I mean it was. It was beautiful. I mean that game changed immediately call. Cincinnati bengals i. Think though if you're part of the day like you got your your team go through some adversity. Jamaa took the top off the bucket by the way getting through the hips catches a deep ball. They're so happy for him. I mean the bengals look like they add some dogs like the bengals like a team team over there. I gossip good players. Obviously borough got banged up last year. But he's he's a great young quarterback chase earlier. A lot of people thought should've went a different direction. But i mean that's a one two points that can be scary down the stretch. And and see i i was. I was happy to see him Make all of those plays on week one especially with you know his comments in my opinion being taking blown out of proportion. But we're not there may jesse base. I love him as a safety and mixing no. He's not talking about a lot but they win for the bengals. They held it down their home. Turf and We want long season tough division. But you know we're going through no indoor facility depot when you look at the packers shit. Can mike patton as their defensive coordinator and bring a guy who really hasn't been successful anywhere else and you always hear that like they have a bunch of these pieces and a bunch of these dudes. At what point is it possible though that like maybe the personnel is the issue. And it's not necessarily the coaching or do you think no this like who they have calling. These places is the is the real issue here is tough boy looking at personnel. I no way. I can look at that defense and you know come to that conclusion that personnel issues so of that yesterday for part of that was the offense. Not moving body is the complementary game you know era to turn overs their offense offensive. Just not moving the ball at all. So you got your defense out there. All day in florida you know is going to be tough night. Heat so kevin king. I mean he. He's giving up. We give him a big plays man get short. James has got the ball on short fills all day. So it's joe berry but that defense you know that front. That's secondary i mean. That's one of my favorite safety got. Alexandra durham's prior to three cornyn leagues. I definitely can't put personnel Jober nature berry figured out as tie great way to word that we bring in a defense coordinator who's never had success made me laugh. We got like two minutes real quick on this last one. We appreciate your brain. Go ahead digs diva steelers. Got pressure yesterday. Without blessing they blitz once or twice depending on who you're getting stats from. How awesome is that for the secondary for the pressure. Without letting amina everything you saw that same thing in new orleans. They were getting after three four mayor rushes. So that's just you know you get got more resource on the back end. You had shohei back. Who missed that week. Fourteen matchup lash. He's planning a contract year. Sutton who makes some plays matters that number two corner makers and all pro in the big money men up front wrecking crew so when you can get to that quarterback keep a guy like josh allen. You know. offense didn't have any run threat to be dropping back throwing it all game. You can't do that against pittsburgh since man. So if i'm a steelers fan. I think it's still still definitely rolling the tighten up. I mean that team that seems slept on coming year. I could see them. Make us north first half offense. Oh absolutely terrible. Second half of the different new offense coordinator same old band. Let's see how this whole thing goes. Great defense d. but we can't thank enough for joining us. You're the best. Can't see you next monday. Pal i appreciate lays gentleman dairies house. We have some breaking news that happened during the incredible conversation with our guys areas butler man-to-man podcasts everything. 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"jamaa" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

06:32 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

"Penalties for eighty four yards like going on the road and beating. Bill belichick get turnovers and uncharacteristic penalties. From bill. belichick team like offensively. They did not get too good drives. That was it. This is also a completely redone to england offense to like. I don't think they had any continuity outside of the offensive line with any starters in their front eleven. There's there's something to be said about. The dolphins least having a little bit of controversy jalen water coming in but to a supposed to know these guys and it almost seemed like he didn't he was playing with them was weird. Stu gods please explain this to me because after all of these years you're still doing. The analysis of they won the game right. If there's not a fumble at the end by the patriots the to didn't have anything to do with and the patriots. Just run out the clock and kick a field goal. What's your assessment of to it today. i'm shredding him okay. So that's what we're doing. What if there's that roughing the passer call. It doesn't happen like we could play this game like i game. We crushing the dolphins today. A lot it's not to say to say that someone a does not look special is not to crush them. that's not. we're not a visceral to what we're trying to make an assessment at a position where it's hard to make an assessment where wins and losses are not the measurement when he played okay and he continues to play okay and i continue to take a top five pick and get two hundred yards from him and it doesn't do much for me and we watched seven years of tanna hillcrest. Seven goddamn years of tannahill without always making the assessment of well. He made those throws in that game. How about those couple of drives that he had he had a couple of games and seven. Goddamn years went by. And we're still arguing about it at the end. And and so. I'm legitimately asking you the question about if someone doesn't look special. How soon do they have to look special before you say to yourself okay. This is a quarterback that can be a game-breaker like i. Don't you tell me right now. Chris after one game this season do you magin the jameis. Winston is going to have a better season than to of this year. I mean i kinda liked tamest winston so probably actually where. Where are you if that can happen. And where are you if you're top five. Pick if you've got a guy who was run off of tampa bay. When they got rid of his turnovers. They won the super bowl. He had to accept the backup job and last year. Played behind the guy who is actually a quarterback and that guy. I had the guest this year. I'm guessing the jameis. Winston is going to have a better statistical season then to maybe by miles. I mean you have a different play caller. They're in a different offensive line. So i just think that that matters. You're right i mean. I don't think we're disagreeing year. I think is in that twenty to twenty five range of the starting quarterback. He's just now if you're if you're also got this point he's only played x amount of game. We don't know inaugural. I just think like. Let's just you're right but with this defense. I'm still feeling like this team to make the playoffs. Were wanna know. I'm feeling good. You're not gonna break my spirit today. I know you're not trying to just saying like i'm. I'm feeling good about today. Dolphins elite defense and a guy at quarterback who's not bad it's his tenth start And after the first drive i was i was really excited. Saying okay here. We go with two but then the next drive. Nothing happened in the drive after that. Nothing happened dr waddell. Catch that ball in the second quarter year pro. You might be thinking of his day different. I just don't think that you can boil down quarterback performance to that one mistake that happened on that one play. We're doing it for one game right. Now that's fair that's fair. This has been one game. Like i probably sound to overarching right now. In my criticism. This was just one game but i watch every game with the hope that i'm getting something different from. Hello claire princess claire. So i have a question for the group. Do you take two or do you take jalen hurts. Jalen hurts look really good lanta but he looked really good and he looks special. It's funny that hurts. Such transfer from alabama. Because the two i love. I can't tell you that i that. The quarterback analysis stuff is so difficult for me that i love the idea of just slapping on the back of his jersey as a top five. Pick chris cody's analysis of a guy who's not bad. That's a guy who's wanting is what i was saying the floor the floor. Is you know a starter. But dan just going back to that fumble for a second if he doesn't fumble only score. There's still three and a half minutes left in the game to has an opportunity to drive the land tonight. But that's the questions. To god's that the question is if that scenario plays out what do you think happens there. What do you think you'd think he's driving down the field. I don't know what you can't have confidence in that got. You can have hope but you've got precious little proof precious. I am precious little proof. And if i had to had to give you an answer. I'm probably say no so to your point. I'd probably say no. I have no faith in driving down because they need to touch that. And that's i believe so. No all right. We're going to get outta here now. Unfortunately i don't know what is mike bombing in tomorrow. We've got to get his pain. We've gotta go through his suffering. Check it out tomorrow. We will clean rams covering here. Chris cody is chasing on a sunday night. It might upset about this. He's always team. Did go ahead. Mike closes out victory. Let my just give us all urinalysis. We'll all get out of here. One by one. And just keep talking until your internet connection. Just totally blows out the rest of. You may have already david. Montgomery i was while lasted big fantasy week from you guys and then you don't care hundred fifty plus points Real quick i mean. Listen we compete with the nfl because the nfl's right now But i had a jamaa chase and sterling shepard on my bench. There is nothing..

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"jamaa" Discussed on Pardon My Take

Pardon My Take

07:44 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Pardon My Take

"The field. For desha watson it's like totally forgotten the fact that he demanded a trade right before all. This came out. Really wanna play for the texans. And i don't even know if the texan wanna play have employees. No it's a very bizarre situation. All right good under. I'm nego- forty niners lines under forty five. And that's liam's yes. Two quarterbacks in two teams at new quarterbacks made little jimmy g. or the starting to Yeah yeah i'll keep the pick okay. Thought they're starting trae lance research mistake. That's okay that's okay happens. Yeah it happens. go ahead. Eagles falcons the birds Low-scoring bird game. He goes joke. Falcons have been a joke. Eagles earning gentlemen be ugly ugly game just a joke laughing. I mean they have their quarterback. Disaster is in dome. Why is jalen hurts a disaster. No but they don't know alabama quarterback. Now it's not that i just don't didn't they trade for maybe not. I don't know that's my oklahoma quarterback. Still preseason for us. when we're taping. This might be a sneaky over though it could be just remember. Cow pits hurts. Put them numbers. Yeah do that. Offense has probably what ten first round picks a lot. They might be nine now because they traded. Julio jones i actually think that the falcons have the most talented offense. Yeah in the nfl. Yes if this was six years ago yes. Pf t your under my under is gonna be the jets at the panthers under forty four darnold revenge gates low number. The sam darnold revenge game. Yeah i l- actually like the jets new head coach. I like sala a lot so especially like as defensive coach. I don't know what the offense is gonna look like. It's not gonna look any worse than adam gays. I'm pretty confident that so But i do like the defense lots. I'm going to go under forty four to panthers are one of those teams that i need to see sam in a regular season game for me to stop thinking. Teddy bridgewater cer- quarterback well for me. It's like the panthers have they've got low points. Jerseys the jerseys just feel like and not a lot of points to me and a low point field although do they put the nfl logo. They took the nfl logo off the only one field. That still has at the medal. And that's my under. Because i think the i think. Nfl logo fields. Just go on. it's slow yes. It is slow. It's forty one and a half the broncos giants game. I don't know. I guess i could get fucked by jones just throwing five pick sixes but dow under alright. No that's not my under shit. I'm an idiot. I had that rain down my unders. The bears rams my unders. Bears rams forty six and a half. I don't think the bears are gonna score. Thirteen points I'm very low on the skin. And you don't think matt stafford is going to go out and this is going to be as like announcement game. I think this is actually the latest in a career that somebody could have coming out party. Yeah no i. I think that The rams are going to be good and the bears defense is still decent. They still got some dudes. I just our offense is so bad eighty dollars gonna look so bad. The game's going to be so bad. And i'm gonna feel so bad so that's an under that although so bads up that's an andrea forty six and a half is that what is forty seven now. Oh forty seven. Gave me. forty-seven there we go bank. Error in my favor Any keeps that we didn't touch. This actually was a very efficient way to talk about all the games on sunday. I think we hit him. Vikings bengals only game. We didn't hit the only note i have on. That is the draft named after joe. Borough died today that significance so angles walk. Do we need to go. Bengals mortal lock rip. What's his name right now. On all systems. Joe joe raff. Did they name him that one. I don't know just it would be a great name for a draft. Yeah the the joe roff. let's see By the way it's borough with the axe. Oh okay you'll be great name for that. If he was still a college has be neck. Should we talk at least a second about as being like. I can't see the ball that feels bad. It might be a little bit of fake news or big cat. Oh is it the floreal. Get us florio. Mighty gonesse with his classic bait and switch. Click bait floor ever trust. Anybody goes by. Pf t. original report florio's had report the jamaa chase. Because you know you it's true it's true report. There's a little bit of contact. It was so the. Footballs in the nc double a. We've talked about a million times with brady quinn having a fuck -able spiral it's because they have that white paint it just it looks better in the air. The footballs the nfl. Don't have that. There was a tweet which i guess. I'm very much part of like the people who see tweet. Don't read article. Just see the tweet. The tweet was essentially the tamar chase is having trouble. Seeing the ball he's had noted drops during preseason and practice. He's having trouble seeing the ball without the white paint. Pf t you have the context. Yes or the context of that tweet was that There is a question asked where the asked him. Describe the differences between nfl ball and a college ball reporter. Asking that question is not like dreux. Marchesi turn was like. Hey just so you know. I've got hands like nelson galore because the paint is on the ball anymore. They asked him very specifically what it was. And the way that. I know this is because somebody tag me on twitter instead of accidentally tagging florio and told me to do myself a favor and by a tall stool and a strong rope for writing this story out. The context florio. That was meant for you. I probably wouldn't that tall stool tax so the question was why. Yeah why did you. Why did you have a lack of focus. And he just said it's a bigger ball adjustment. I don't wanna make any excuses. I gotta be a pro and make that catch that. Sounds like an excuse. And then you mentioned early on the nfl. Ball's a little bit different. How is it different. And was that more than you expect. And he said the balls different he described what balls different got it. Because it's bigger and it doesn't have the stripes on base for the most part just got used to it. Find out what. I'm comfortable with catching and going from there. You know what the more i say it out loud. I'd like to apologize to florida. Yeah that sounds like he's having trouble with the because it sounds like he is just saying like i missed the white stripes on the ball. Yes like this always easier to catch it. Had the co design on it. Yes absolutely struggler. I hope you cap the receipt for the tall stool in the strong row. Our hope you bought a week rope. Yeah is a taller stool. Yeah just very sad attempt. Yeah you crash to the ground immediately. The campy flipped over. Not yeah stool that is nailed to the ground floor. Dooby favorite go to the store by gun but put one of those old time he flags has bang when it comes out and then point at your head by a gun and buy your wife a pepsi. Yep and then just have that exchange in your house Okay that's a little. What kendall jenner kylie. Jenner shout out. She's pregnant again right by now. Kylie kylie kelly's pepsi. Ten dollars one with pepsi candles with colleagues one with the baby. Charlotte libya mon- hot. That time matches up. Yep yeah wow. Aaron rodgers scabby punching the air right now. Yeah that's why i'm taking the saints. Yeah aaron rodgers vange as can be mad mad celebrity revenge game all right. Let's do fantasy puck boys and then we got prisco talking all about the. Nfl we hop around with him. Little preview of everything. Let's.

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"jamaa" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

04:52 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"Not even the lakers. Who will on people are gonna handicap. Is maybe the favorite come out of the west had got all these new pieces to put together Denver is gonna be way jamaa murray. We have no idea what he's coming back. So that's a very analogous to the clippers without kawhi leonard and so the the warriors even the warriors they have championship pedigree but they also have a severe lack of continuity beyond staff and draymond cause remember klay thompson. Come back right away. You know you're talking about december january for him so that's a long winded way of saying. I think the sons can exploit all of that and win a lot of games. Put themselves in a good spot. Compla- off time to make an impact. Yeah i think. I leaned sons also in this conversation. I love what he did. I love the fit of. Kyle lowry we all do. I think the heater atop fourteen. But i also think that means you know invariably of course that means in the second round. They're they're seeing either the probably the bucks or the nets especially if they're number three and they're gonna get buxton nets are one to in some water another. We all assume so. If three you're i mean if you're four you're getting the other one. What does it really matter either. Way those teams are just going to be really tough. I think the bucks he can beat those teams. I don't know that they actually will. I think that the the thing about the west is as good as the lakers might be as as as great as the warriors could be again as stout as the jazz have been as good as the nuggets could be especially if they get your memory back somewhere along the way i just feel like the top of the west is really kind of in flux. There's always caveats right. And you mentioned utah. I keep the second you said. The utah name like guilt. Watch over me. I mean that's another you talk about. Continuity the jazz are got it in spades. And i think they're going to be dangerous. Yeah so i think. I think the sons have the shot of the deeper run for new. The reason that. I think there's more volatility to the top of the west than there is to the top of the east where i think the bucks and nets. You know the usual. Barring injury whatever are just so ensconced. It's gonna be really hard to to move them out.

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"jamaa" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"Seahawks are waiting for jamal adams to sign a new contract. Offer there waiting for him to sign it. Sounds like is a final. Yeah this is hot news because this is a pure standoff right now. I'm told jamal. Jamal adams has conviction. He believes in what he's worth. He's got a number in mind. Whatever that is. He is clinging to it. it has to do with guarantees and structure and there are a lot of things with the contract that they have to work out so seattle has tried to get into this to the finish. Line there well. Above what the market is for the top highest paid safety. So they're willing to go so far. But i'm they're not budging. Adams is not budging and this could get very interesting because seattle stuck businesswise unless they get jamal adams deal done. They're going to have some hard times. Getting any sort of free agency moves done on the side. They gotta sign left. Tackle dwayne brown who's also holding in. He's not so everything sorta hinges on them. Getting past this hurdle. They can't seem to do it. This lingers this way down the team a little bit and have an after effect. It's it's only hot news to me jerry. Because it's a new york jets thing other than that. It's not news because they will get the deal done. That's the thing they've already extended a contract offer. It just may take some time in terms of language things of that nature. They're not gonna go into the season without having their guy that they traded to number one for that changed the defense around once he got houston custom to doing it Pete carroll's way. They're not gonna do that. They know how important it is. This year for. Russell wilson and the rest of those guys dwayne brown all of them. It's gonna get done but again it's only hot news to new york jet fans that hate jamaa adams. Play looking at me and my problem anymore. It's not news. It's not news just because we're said this deal is going to get done now. I mean you talk about the offers on the table there waiting for him to sign. Well we're gonna keep on waiting until the signs and by the way he's going to make a move. That's why we saw aaron rodgers right. Green bay said okay. We're going to figure it out. We're gonna make it work. Seattle needs jamal adams on the field week one to successful and try to make a super bowl run so this is not news. It's gonna it's gonna get down. It's going to happen. I think the bigger issue though that some people don't talk about is seattle. Put people put news out there saying. Oh the biggest contract ever and all these. But where's the guarantees at right. Give me all this. Money's not guarantee i don't wanna talk about it. Get the guarantees up. Make the man happy not news..

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"jamaa" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

07:27 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"The goodyear hotline shane jordan cornet filling in for the guys. This morning. yes we are in new york as cheese was just telling us talking a lot about aaron rodgers but nonetheless all thirty two teams at this point jay have reported to or been at training camp and so the unofficial start to the season is officially underway. But we are going to go to the jets because somehow someway the jets always find themselves in the news for not the right reasons and it is continuing this morning. Quarterback wilson remains unsigned as the jets. Open training camp today tomorrow. Is the first practice for the jets. And there's an issue here. Essentially with zach wilson. He's in southern california based on his instagram story. Training probably with his kelly based quarterback coach john beck. The two sides are haggling over contract details. Essentially which has offset language in it. espn's rich demeaning said discussions over the offset. Language could be the reason why wilson has yet not yet signed with the jets. Such language would allow the jets to recoup some money if they cut wilson before the end of his four-year contracts. Now there should be noted that the jets typically require this in all of their contracts. And so i ask you. Training camp is starting their rookie. Quarterback's on the other side of the country. Is this kind of a bad luck. It's a bad look. It's a tough situation. And you hope it can say previous history has shown that this gets a little dicey but ultimately the jets have been able to figure it out when push comes to shove. It's a big deal because robert saleh and this was something he was asked about early on was kinda. Roll the dice without having a veteran backup. Qb their new york and that not to not have one is now really an issue because this team with camp starting looks to us ernie stewart with a new coaching staff. And get healthy and offense and they've got pieces one now the first team reps. If you don't get zack in there. We'll go to. James morgan and mike white. What about james morgan. And mike. What nothing and you know with his teammates. They probably to know nothing about james or mike so this becomes somewhat of an issue if it doesn't get resolved because naturally this is your franchise guy but there's no veteran presence in the meantime there's no okay. Well at least we'll get off to a right. Start with guys who know and then we can get zack in here. You need zach their day one because he is your day one guy as we talk about trae lance justin fields. There's other guys. They're they're gonna lean on those other guys. These guys will get the chance. Later on wilson zack's good to be the guy so he needs to be in camp. He needs to get acclimated a big time talent but needs to get acclimated with his teammates immediately. Agree with all you just said. Also this is the third time in four years a jets first round pick is remained unsigned just days before training camp also. According to rich amini again they are squabbling over offset language. Those are his words not mine quarterback. Trevor lawrence has no offsets. Justin fields has no offsets for the bulk of his money. The jets always do deals with offsets and that is likely the hold up. So what does this tell me. Jets get rid of the offsets in the contracts. You're signing for your working quarterbacks. This is happening year after year. Clearly this is a problem time after time. Apparently stop it like there's always issues with the jets. That are fixable problems like if this is. What's holding your rookie quarterback who has never played a down in the national football league to not be at training camp. Get rid of it and move on so you can get the rookie quarterback established with his team so we can build some chemistry and start working towards some ws in your future. I'm sick of the nonsense with the jets. It's year after year. There's always something there's always some sort of problem. It's stupid like get rid of this language. None of these other rookie quarterbacks have it why do you. You make phenomenal point and those taxes jersey new york area. They no joke. So you don't want to mess with any other language guaranteed money and you also don't want to get off on the wrong foot knowing what we know about this league as much of the news today zeman dominated by aaron rodgers. You want to from day one. Treat your franchise quarterback like somebody who had any moment could turn and walk now. It's a rookie contract. He'll be under wilson assuming good sign but when that next contract comes around you want some equity you wanna relationship built in. That's all to a good start. This is a bad look. Because they're on both sides because he's being nickel and dime with something in a language that has had Previous strap picks about issue with so as you look at it. I'm thinking. Hey the bengals did. Right by joe borough went and to the guy he wanted. Jamaa chase We've seen what's happened with russell wilson. When he felt slighted out there we see and aaron rodgers. Tom brady was about being slighted. Probably not just new scenery but guys are gonna remember stuff. They're going to have a memory and so in this kind of situation you would hope the jets figure this out. This doesn't linger and ultimate because there is no presence at the backup position for the jets at you. You're probably like me where you believe. Wilson is going to be a heck of a player right Yeah that remains to be seen for me. What i do know is he's going to be the week one starter and so all. This nonsense is just delaying the inevitable. Which is delaying the fact that he needs to get acclimated with his team and he needs to get situated as a week one starter. Who has a lot of stuff to do a special amount of time absolutely especially because of what the jets were last year. I think they were able to get him in the first but you know what they started to do. Some things and we're still competitive down the stretch last year. But you're wiping clean and you're starting a new c. Don't want anything problematic. You don't want anything that's like you don't want any negative news. You want a fresh start. You wanna come. In zack's our guy coach salazar guy. We are healthy. We are ready to make moves to put all that behind us. This is not that they need to get this result okay in two thousand eighteen darnold representatives. Sam darnold that has had an issue with not just offsets but also language that will allow that would have allowed the jets to void guaranteed money if they were fined by the nfl. Okay eventually the jets took the language out of the deal. Darnold did agree to have offsets in his deal and there was also a fight over how his signing bonus would be paid again chaos like again with the contract. Chaos teams can defer payments darnold. Got all of his twenty million and so on and so forth again though. Why do we keep doing this year after year. Like there's all these disagreements and this isn't a disagreement right out of the gates. Training camp opens today like teams report. Today why are we still having these kinds of discussions. This is what perturbs me about about the jets like. It's just always last minute. Not necessarily get to the bottom of it and move on. There is no tougher position for work to do. There's no tougher position for a rookie to adjust to then a rookie stepping into the quarterback position in new york city in new york city with the with all eyes on him because again. There is no backup quarterback there. There's no other decision when you say he's going to be the day one quarterback. I know you are totally against like most of starting a rookie quarterback but when james morgan and mike white are the other options there. They've made the declarative statement. There with these jets. Zack's our guy zack's playing week one. So if that's the case this guy it's imperative you get this figured out. He can't miss a second of the information he needs a soak up and the rhythm and the connection. He needs to develop with this. It is essential and there needs to be a sense of urgency and handling it..

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"jamaa" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

Cincy Jungle

03:44 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Cincy Jungle

"The game against us. I would agree. I think that's a good idea. I didn't really necessarily think that deep about it. But yeah that's a good point. Let's move on to pittsburgh. Their rookies are dazzling at training. Camp in this is michael back. I know michael beck at At behind the steel curtain the sp nation. Pittsburgh steelers sister site to cincy jungle. But hey you know. I think najah harris. I think he's going to be a pretty good one. I hate to say that. I i just don't have an offense of line and that's that's the thing that killed me. I am the national media. Got mad at us for not mad but just ripped us for drafting jamaa chase and not a soul but a steelers draft mogae. That's a great move there. The line is worse than the bengals get. They get the pass right that drives me nuts anyway. The quote that the referencing is from albert breer nausea harris's constantly working. I've seen a lot of videos. He's doing all kinds of different stuff. I think he's going to be a good player for them now. In the offensive line issues the aging roster around him who knows what happens with that but pittsburgh usually finds a way to run the football. They know how to do that. And so they're gonna try and do what they can. They did sign trae. Turner after leading david. Decastro go so. They're trying to do some different things up front and then pat fire mood. Their second round picks. In by the way i just have visions of move being every time. He every time he catches a ball. Yeah you area so if you hear that you heard from me i i guess i don't know but But anyway both of those guys are impressing their So far at training camp. I think they're a handful of days in our the steelers in their training camp so they have been doing a some work for handful of days there but You know. I don't know i don't know how much you believe that or put stock into that but it sounds like the rookies are doing pretty pretty well so far. It's it's the squealers i mean. They they they can do wrong in the national media. I mean i'll i'll go back to to what bleak rights show last week and He's he thinks the the bengals have a chance to sweep squealers. Because now i know you are the same boat that i am and i picked us to split with them because thomason has never had a losing season and i respect the hell out of that guy. He's he's a very good coach. But if you look on paper just like me. Great said you look on paper and that's all we can look every now comparing the bengals talent to squealers talent. I like the bengals. Got him beaten almost every every aspect of it. So i think there's a very good chance that the bengals could sweep the squealers and the national loves pittsburgh. They can do wrong. It's draft kicker in the first round and number. I'm like oh my god. I'll be kicker emmer. They really struggled in the kicking game last year. So i don't know it's just. It's the national narrative that unless we start winning more games. Were way we're gonna be out of changes and sweeping. The wheelers would help that now. Speaking of squealers there's very few players who are and we're doing a little more steelers coverage in the other two teams because they have been doing like you mentioned training camp that's has opened for them so But few people are synonymous with that moniker of the team. Name ben roberts of burger. But he's this is on again. Behind the steel curtain. The estimation nation sister site of the pittsburgh steelers to cincy jungle ben rothlisberger shoulders responsibility of teaching. And what it means to play for the steelers so an interesting Interesting article here quote this. Is i think again from albert That they are referencing..

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"jamaa" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

51:23 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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"jamaa" Discussed on The Hull Show ? 1310 KFKA

The Hull Show ? 1310 KFKA

05:16 min | 1 year ago

"jamaa" Discussed on The Hull Show ? 1310 KFKA

"Poll question this is for you. Colfax because i know you've got a lot of stock in the nuggets doing something great this year power to play sports. Poll question available to hold showed up. It's looking more and more like nuggets lakers round one. If so who you got nye told you. I'd picks phoenix yesterday last night and it helped him. They lost still pretty far out there. Clippers one so they continue to to keep the pace All right so we got obviously all the options that you could have. We got lakers and seven. Lakers and sixers lakers and five lakers and four than the nuggets forty percent of the whole against like the lakers to take the nuggets to seven games and it will be in denver. And they like the lakers to win that game. As of right now it would be in denver. Forty percent of the whole against the lakers and seven in the first round. I'm not there. Have such a hard time with this. Because i ask chris dempsey yesterday about to tv. I said how concerned are you that the depths not gonna be there that the supporting cast is not going to be there because now that you wipe out jamaa for a time it was like oh you got joker jamal importer. You could argue about jamal. You want but he still gonna drop you know twenty points. Where's that other production coming from. Neil porter's probably going to be and i've talked about this a lot. He's i need them to be great. But if we're speaking realistically right here today. Seventeen twenty seven. That's where i see him. Seventeen points to twenty seven points. And if he's in if he's in the lower portion of that and the seventeen's it's going to you're going to need joker to get thirty or you're going to need a barton to show up and get twenty and again. That's where i get scared. I don't look rely on that. So i asked empty. How how concerned are you that the supporting cast isn't going to be there and he said he was out of out of ten. He was ten being very concerning six and a half. So that's that's the caveat. I mean i had a texter. Already say depends if if lebron davis or their which. There's no reason they wouldn't be. It's supposed to be healthy and ready to go then. They like the nuggets and fire. The lakers and five. If they're not there. The the lakers and seven still like the lakers. Even without those guys. That's crazy boy. Nice not to be nice to avoid the lakers in the first round i like this in the first round. Just get it over with get it over with. I think you can catch the lake your sleeping in that first round. They might not take you as seriously when you meet him in the western conference fires final. They're going to be all cylinders..

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GameStop Stock Soars as Reddit Investors Take On Wall Street Bets

Squawk Pod

07:17 min | 2 years ago

GameStop Stock Soars as Reddit Investors Take On Wall Street Bets

"Stop the video game retailer. Stock has rallied over six hundred eighty percent this month and in the last couple of days the stocks volatility has pretty much everyone talking. So what's going on. First of all game stop is for the average mall going consumer dying brand a relic of simpler times when we used to have to physically go to the store and wait in line for the newest call of duty or for the latest harry potter book. So it's no surprise. That game stop has been a target for wall street shortsellers its demise has been foregone conclusion. So short and game stop. That is betting that game stop would continue to. Depreciate could have been a good bet except short-selling is risky and your losses if you lose that bad or basically limitless since there's no cap on how valuable the company has bet against could become so even riskier if stock you've shorted starts going up. You can essentially cut your losses without getting too in the weeds market mechanics here. When a lot of short seller's designed to cut their losses on a shorted stock. That's now suddenly going up it triggers. What's called a short squeeze. Demand goes up. Supply goes down. Price goes up more shortsellers. Try to cut their losses. It's a vicious cycle and one that can result in massive losses for their shortsellers and giant prophets for those who've invested in the stock on the way up which is when a popular reddit. Forum called wall street bets figured out that game stop was the most shorted stock in the us markets. It wasn't hard to convince reddit users in the forum to buy up enough stock in game. Stop to trigger that short squeeze making retail investors of bundle and sticking it to the wall street big guys in the process. This was all encouraged in many ways by high profile investors with a hefty social media presence. Jamaa only petia tweeted that he'd bet on the stock increasing himself cameron winkle voss of the winkle vi- suggested he might go along on the stock and must only tweeted that he was aware of the situation just aware of the situation in game. Stop took off again. In after hours. Trading and to wall street bets credit. The plan worked amid game. Stops rally shortsellers on wall. Street have accumulated over five billion dollars in losses year to date and that includes nine hundred million loss on monday and one point six billion lost on friday. As you're about to hear hedge fund. Melvin capital took an enormous loss on the bet so much so that rumors of bankruptcy were swirling on that wall street. Bet sub reddit. But the founder of melvin told our own andrew ross sorkin. The rumors aren't true. Here's andrew now some breaking news this morning on this game stop story. We've been reporting all morning. Having talked to gay. Plock into runs. Melvin capital gay. Plotkin saying that. Melvin capital has been out closed out its position in the stock force. That company was Firm i should say with short looks like lost a ton of money but short that company up through Before the end of the close yesterday but Gabe saying that They got out yesterday afternoon. Of course the question is what happens now. Game stop a game. Stop shares Melvin capital had to take in an additional close to three billion dollars in new capital citadel. Coming to the rescue along with point seventy two. This is a remarkable saga With game stop so many of these investors no really no longer really investing on the fundamentals of what's happening against up but more just continue to push up the stock and we've seen so many folks like you on musk. Go take to twitter about it. Chihua- polly fanning the flames. So there's a lot of fan fan. Flame fanning taking place right now big questions about regulators where they are what they should be doing a lot of criticism and critique online as saying that if you think manipulation what do you think wall street is doing everyday to us the retail investors so. There's a sort of a pop psychology dynamic at play. And i think we're all we're all learning and try and understand what it means but also what it means in the future for the ability of retail investors to get together on places like read it and other places Form an army of sorts and try to push up The stocks in in certain cases like this. So i'm at a loss for words. Joe i really am where are the regulators and is this just the beginning situation. We all do have a lot to say on this but you you obviously have a lot to san. That's interesting but obviously the plane with the calls. And you're you're seeing calls that are one hundred dollars out of the money going for nineteen dollars and things that you've got markups going from two billion to twenty five billion. Obviously everything you're saying we understand. This is this is a game obviously and these guys. When i put five dollars on a ncaa game that. I don't care that much about that's the same as jemaah putting a couple of hundred grand on some calls or lan or any of the guys were talking about this. I think it's kind of responsible. The kind of laughing about it laughing all the way to the bank. But you know there are market makers that have to take. How'd you like to be short some of these calls. Can you imagine being short some of these calls. Especially if you're not covering i mean you can lose. You can lose ten times your money. Unlike a regular investment where only lose one hundred percent. I mean this this this makes this makes bitcoin look like t-bills if you think there's speculation and crypto when you when you look at something like and now they're looking for the next mark right they'll find another game stop once they're done with game stop but in the meantime there's gonna be blood all over understand why i understand why elon musk is doing it. He hates the shorts. They've you know he's right. Thinks it's a game where he's playing a game to understand he's playing the game too. I don't understand why tomatoes doing this. I don't understand why the winkle loss guys doing this. I mean this is i. It's nothing about me. Said too much money it and if you if you think people look unkindly at the wealthy at this point like wait till you see what happens with with the retail investor who gets sucked into thing and gets caught in the trap with who can't afford to lose the money like these guys are doing. I'll tell you the thing there. There really is a merry band of retail investors. Out there both already but increasingly and this is what i think even more concerning i spent a lotta time night reporting this out but also spending time on the in some of these rooms there are places people are going out into encrypted rooms onto telegram onto signal where they where they effectively are planning their next raid. Where they're trying to look to say. Okay where can we do. You know who can we take down next. In this case it was capital that they were seeking to take down. That's why i think the news today that they're out maybe potentially a turning point. I don't know. I don't. I don't know what turns this stock back into some kind of a normal

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"jamaa" Discussed on Radio Fajri 99.3FM

Radio Fajri 99.3FM

07:04 min | 2 years ago

"jamaa" Discussed on Radio Fajri 99.3FM

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Clippers vs. Nuggets: How the teams match up for playoff series

The Free Agents

02:37 min | 2 years ago

Clippers vs. Nuggets: How the teams match up for playoff series

"It's the clippers nuggets this one tips today Thursday at nine PM Eastern. interrupters. Ton of Christ, says, this is weird because that is my sister. Okay well. I. Now, it's good. Good good It's too weird. All right. The clippers took two out of three regular season Games including one twenty, four, one eleven victory in the bubble. So let's get to the keys to this series clippers nuggets, and then we'll make our predictions task whether you're watching. Well, Jamal Murray is going to be the number one objective for the clippers defensively. They're just going to be a Angel Momma and I think. This is GonNa be one series where quiet Leonard has to guard Jamaa. I think whoever's playing point guard for them is going to be too little to guard Jamal Murray whether it's beverly or Landry Shamet and I think Paul George is too big. So it's just GONNA work out. That Leonard is going to be on Jamal primarily that's going to be as matchup like it has been the last two times they played during the regular season. So that's GonNa be exciting, just watching Leonard. Have to exert a lot of energy expend energy. You know it's not just your plan pick and roll Shimomura he's going to give up the ball. He's GonNa frigging run around off ball and he's going to be dancing and I think. We know that guys are going to help out. With those guys I just mentioned and if zoo this is going to be a really big really big series for him. We saw what happened in in Utah if Rudy Gobert comes up and plays Jamal Murray. The numbers change so that's going to be there huge huge vote because this is going to be so hard for me to go and come after what he just did. Now he's going to be watching Kawai. Leonard and I think we can sort of lock in on this end of the floor because I think this is Paul. George series to take over on the other end and I think it's good Paul George. He's he feels like he had a nice fresh manscaping grooming fact that the fact that this is a new series he should feel. A little rejuvenated. Also. Because he's not going to have a tough assignment I think going up on the other end. I think Jeremy Grants going to be guarding quiet he has all year. Paul George at millsaps Tori Craig's little too small former. Michael. Porter. I don't know about that. I saw Paul George should have. The Freedom and the ability just because the defender he's going to have to go offensively and. Can expend all that energy. So I think that's what's going to happen. We're GONNA have we're going to get Jamal come back to Earth a little bit because this is the clippers defense here. Yeah

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Implicit Bias in Mental Health

Second Opinion

03:43 min | 2 years ago

Implicit Bias in Mental Health

"Is eighteen and was acting bizarrely. He wasn't coming home. He sat staring out the window for long periods of time and had angry outbursts. His mother finally got him to agree to see a psychiatrist. Who DIAGNOSED SCHIZOPHRENIA? His mother was tearful. She told me the diagnosis at Jamal's recent visit. She's a nurse and she knew a bit about schizophrenia. She didn't see any of the disease in Jamal. He was firmly connected to reality. His social relationships had become less desirable to him but he's still interacted normally with people. His thinking speech and his behaviors were organized. And he had no hallucinations. Psychiatrists like all of us can make mistakes. Unlike my practice where I can order lab tests. X-rays your scans to help me understand. What's going wrong psychiatrists don't have those tools? They see a person for a small amount of time. Ask a number of questions and then need to make a diagnosis and often star treatment. Usually a drug. There's no shortage of reasons that doctors can make mistakes in judgment including misinterpreting patients answers not asking appropriate follow up questions or implicit bias. Implicit bias is not unique to mental health. But it can play a role in how a diagnosis a patient implicit bias. Are those stereotypes or feelings that we have toward a group of people that are sub-conscious these biases can be either positive or negative. The important part though is that we act on these implicit bias involuntarily without any awareness or control these are not biases that we know we have that we subconsciously. Suppress these operate on a completely unconscious level implicit bias as affect every one of us. Even people who are supposed to be impartial like referees judges and doctors we know subconsciously. Many doctors have biases toward women. Ethnic groups sexual behaviors recreational behaviors and certain occupations textbook or classic descriptions of diseases often paint a picture the way a white man would experience them. Medical students may not learn how the disease looks and women or other subgroups. A recent study looked at about seventeen hundred men. Diagnosed with schizophrenia. It turned out that black men diagnosed with schizophrenia. Were four times more likely than white men to actually have symptoms of major depression. Could it be that racial implicit bias accounts for black men? Being misdiagnosed with schizophrenia rather than major depression the problem is of course. That depression requires a different approach in schizophrenia and it can have a very different prognosis but without knowing it doctors may be making misdiagnoses that have important negative consequences. Jamal was reevaluated. He was diagnosed as having depression treated with both anti depressants and therapy and his mother says with a big smile. He's nearly back to normal. Jamaa looks at me and gives me a thumbs up as for the psychiatrist. Not Bad doctor. She just jumped to conclusions. Perhaps based on implicit bias and failed to entertain alternative

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Does killing Soleimani really change anything in the Middle East?

Between The Lines

13:38 min | 3 years ago

Does killing Soleimani really change anything in the Middle East?

"For a generation Iran's May General Sulejmani he was a consequential Fica League in the Persian Gulf for the Americans in the region Sunnis? He was a terrorist mastermind for the Iranians the Assad regime in Syria Hezbollah in Lebanon. Sulejmani was a hero who protected the Shia cresent in the region. So it's no wonder the Iranian generals death via a drone attack attack in Baghdad. That was a huge news story. Earlier this month cast into the money rainy and military commander assassinated in the US drone strike on mm struggling marks a huge escalation coming just days at was revered by Iran supporters in proxies being blamed for the deaths of hundreds of Americans in the Middle East over the we took took action last night to stop a war. What comes next? What's the broader strategy? Here we did not take action to start a war. Your since the American killing of Sulejmani Tehran launched a missile strike on your spices in Iraq and in the process mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian Ilana carrying one hundred seventy six passengers something. The Mullah's had initially denied responsibility but crucially the Iranians signings avoided killing Americans. which was the red line? The president trump has drawn. US military response. So we'll this episode. Leave Iran Ryan stronger or is tyron now more isolated than ever and what is the showdown between Tehran and Washington Maine for Iraq the US military Tori prisons there and Iran's nuclear ambitions. Danny Applica- is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington and Co host of the AAAGH. Ah podcast what the Hell is going on. Making sense of the world get identity. Hey Tom and I'm in. Sokoll is author of Iran Rausing the survival and and future of the Islamic Republic and CO author of Islam beyond borders the Oma in world politics. Welcome back to Iran. How good morning now? Also Amani abetted genocide in Syria to keep the Assad regime in power. He's responsible for the deaths of many American troops. He armed Hezbollah in. Lebanon with rockets is to attack. Innocent Israelis killed many innocent Sunnis in Iraq. So I mean isn't the world better off without Sulejmani. Were president trump. I think so. And also quite a number of American allies in the region Probably I think the same way but at the same time demand was a national hero and in fact that he was the one of the top strategic brains behind Iran's overseas operations and expansion of eight onion influence in the region. I will just support related to the fair that it only leadership has about the possibility of an American attack or an Israeli attack on a combined and attack. But let me see this Tom that nobody is commendable. dimitris full of commanders. Top commanders into the Nobel Prize winners and so on General money is being replaced And I think e to the debt is a widespread view in the West. That if you bump one or two individuals isn't the situation is going to get better We duty cold in history that take for example a Prime Minister Anthony Eden go around the nineteen fifties and calling for the elimination of Jamaa Nasser as the national president of Egypt and has was that this man is removed from a then. Everything will be fine. Nothing died in nine hundred. Seventy and a situation has not improved a cold and and at the same thing was said to be so I mean the point though. Is that knocking off Salomon. He's not going to make a great deal of difference. But also can I just add to this Dani salamone and these Iranian backed Shia proxies. They did help inadvertently into why help. America Islamic state. So does it worry you that people cheering the loudest about this. Guy's death other suny jihadists in there are slighted areas in the desert and the mountains of Iraq and Syria. I don't think they're the ones who are cheering the loudest I. I think you heard pretty loud cheering from here. I think you heard some plenty of loud cheering in In Iraq and Lebanon and and elsewhere throughout throughout the region. Look you know. I think it's important to acknowledge that. That as the head of the cuts force Qassem Soleimani was a very powerful folks very influential very strategic and very effective leader and he brought that effectiveness to things. That would terrible And the arming of Hezbollah. The murderer of half million Syrians. The arming of mass. The arming of in Yemen. We could go on for a while here but but But he did all of those things but when when the challenge was from Sundays you had is. He helped set up and guide ride. The hoste. Shabby the popular mobilization units in Iraq that That that ended up being part of the battle to to defeat Isis. The problem here is that every situation in the region is is more complicated than the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just because Stalin Fort with us to defeat Nazi Germany did not make stolen a good guy. And if you look at these anti-regime protests some and. I've been breaking out in Iran since Tehran admitted that its military military shot down. A Ukrainian passenger Ilana have the Iranians overreached because despite the Iranian successes in Iraq Syria and Lebanon on on their rule out officials sites there on stable they print across he so have the Iranians overreached. There's no doubt that many Iranians feel about the Ashim and today have protested over the last few months in order to bring about A structural reforms today as a system of governance and economy which is setting enormously under represent- trump's sanctions but has the Iran overreached. What are I pointed out earlier I mean Iran does fear a a very strongly as possible American that much Israeli combined attack and therefore what update on your the humans done his belt reasonable security and press such for itself which would really want? Shepherdess Arafat at all costs but that does not necessarily Saudi mean that Iran is only Aggressive power in the region aggressive actor in the region. I mean. Let's not forget that that that the destabilization Iraq really started the two thousand three. US invasion of that country. Okay so the. The American invasion of Iraq helped Iran on because it overturned the suny state and it created a Shia majority Stein. I saw a natural law with the Shia brethren in Tehran following following on from that Danny shortly a problem about striking at pro Iranian sheeham paramilitary groups as trump has done is the now part of the Iraqi state. So is it any wonder. Washington's increasingly modulation is part of the world. First of all. I think it's offensive talk about Shiites. As if they're all some sort of monolith. The share of Iraq are Arabs. The Shia of Iran are Persians. These these are different people this. These two countries Shia versus Shia fought a bloody war for eight years in which there were one million casualties casualties in the nineteen eighties. The notion that somehow Iraq is a natural satellite or or or or slave to Iran is wrong Iran has chosen to try to dominate that country and demonstrations throughout the central and southern part of Iraq. Over the last month have been against Iranian domination the Iranian consulate in Jeff was burned to the ground at the end of last year not by Sonny's he's not by Sunni jihadis not by Isis not by Kurds but by Shiites carrying placards yelling out to out for Iran. Get Out of our country and I think that that is absolutely right to suggest that Iran has gained more influence in Iraq since the demise of Saddam Hussein. I I guess I I'm just not that big a fan of Saddam Hussein and the and the stability that he brought to Iraq. I wish that the United States had done more in the aftermath of the wall. I think thinks that we I think that we failed miserably. In many instances I think it was absolutely fatal in two thousand eleven when at a time of genuine stability in Iraq Iraq. President Obama withdrew troops and really provided the opportunity for Isis. To rise up again. My guest Daniel Placate from the American Enterprise Institute. And I'm in Sokoll. He's the author of Iran rausing and Islam beyond borders. I mean how would you respond to all of this. Because we've got these tensions here between Tehran Iran and Washington and the Iranian backed Shia politicians released most of them in Baghdad. I support if not closer ties with Tehran. They want the the Americans out of Iraq. But don't the sooners and the Kurds fee for the Iranian intrusion in Iraqi sovereignty. I absolutely and of course sir. The APP is not only the president of the American so who'd be which are being the opposed to in Iraq but also the presence of eight onions there. No question Ah about that but at the same time if we know that the majority of the Iraqi population is made up of the Shiites and some powerful elements among the Shiites have got the value equals relationship and relationship. What they don't know in the meantime ago? The Iraqi parliament release the iranian-backed Majority Shia legislators I support the withdrawal of US troops Danny now given trump's ambivalence about the region and the fact that he was elected impact to get the US out of the so-called forever awards isn't a US military withdrawal from Iraq. Just what trump and many war-weary Americans want. Well it's kind of funny. Isn't it because we start off talking about the you know the Iranians and what they want and and of course. The number one goal is to get the Americans out of the region and that is in fact the instruction is that has gone out to all of their proxy groups. All around the region. Is You need to step up activities to get the Americans out. Then we've got the president of the United States. It's who dearest and fondest goal is to get American troops out of the region so so a couple weeks after killing Kassim Sulaimaniyah. We have this unbelievably in coherent bizarre response. Where we where we're doing exactly what the around him one let? This is what Donald Trump has to sort out. He has to sort out whether he's the president. He's the kind minded president who who leads in a forthright fashion against men like costume ceremony. Who Seek to destabilize the region and extend Iran's hegemony Germany or he is going to be the kind of president that like Bernie Sanders like Barack Obama wants to turn around and high tail fin is to the Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump's uh-huh Washington energy independent America Stein fought these endless wars danny well A? They aren't endless wars. We have lost fewer people in these. This was than than than we lost a single day in World War Two so while they are conflicts that have continued on and off to a certain extent. You know the notion Shen that we've been sold that somehow we've still got one hundred and fifty thousand troops on the ground and losing them at a rapid pace is just wrong. We lost six in Syria. I I mourn every single one of them but the Kurds lost eleven thousand in their fight against Isis. So what what. What is the reason? We'll tell you very straightforwardly woodley because every time we turn tail every time someone says let's get out of that bloody Middle East. Let's pay attention to something fun. Like Asia and you'd like that. Tom Would now but hang on your way but every time we say that we end up being dragged back because the dynamics in the region of the ones that bring us back we need. We need a long-term solution that lets us. Stay away for good rather than one where we run away. Anita did it come back every single decade I mean the two thousand fifteen nuclear deal Provided tyron with as much as apparently one hundred fifty billion dollar windfall. Aw and certainly many people who are skeptical of the deal side that the Iranian spent lavishly arming the Shia militias across the region. So what it was trump right to pull the US out of the deal and instead impose maximum Prussia built around these economic sanctions on Iran. I think he was totally wrong and and I can care. There has been a backlash president. Trump's would would you withdrawal has a basically a provoked said that on Not to really go for the for police. Speed to in order to rebuild that they have nuclear program and. I think you're going to really do that. And of course that also carries the risk of a possible confrontation from tation between the United States and Iran possibly Israeli attacks on Iran and that could easily dissolved in a regional warfare. That at the end nobody may may be able to control it Danny. Any I mean a lively debate. Thanks so much for being back on. ABC

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Hatice Cengiz's mission: Don't forget Jamal Khashoggi

FT News

09:55 min | 3 years ago

Hatice Cengiz's mission: Don't forget Jamal Khashoggi

"I'm with ruler Caliph the deputy editor of the F. T. and she's had recently rather astonishing interview. She met recently Hattie's challenges who of course found herself at the center of an international drama indeed something of a horror story last October. This is when the young Turkish academic were seen waiting outside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul for her fiance who never appeared that man of course was the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi details of whose murder at the hands of Saudi the thugs would leak out over the coming days and weeks so so really just start by telling us. What is the state of the investigation into Khashoggi's death? Well depends what you mean by investigation and which investigation in Saudi Arabia Arabia a group of people are being put on trial but we know very little about this trial elsewhere. There has been a U._N.. report by a U._N.. Expert on the murder however that report does not or have any legal basis it only makes recommendations and it has recommended an impartial international investigation for that to happen however you would need you on Security Council approval and I don't expect that exactly exactly 'cause you're touching on the really important point of the sort of full out of this whole saga namely. It doesn't look as if we're going to be many repercussions for the Saudi regime does it and why is that. I think that there were initially some repercussions for the. The Saudi regime mainly reputational a lot of business. People and political figures stayed away from Saudi Arabia. There was a bit conference. That was a flop but I think over time things of return to normal. I don't think the reputation of the Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman the man we know as and BS will ever really fully recover but I think that once Western governments and especially the U._S. government can't say that doing business with Saudi Arabia's fine he was for example at the g twenty in fact Saudi Arabia is going to be hosting the g twenty next year that is kind of rehabilitation Saudi Arabia hosting the g twenty year stunning given all that happened and imagine particularly appalling news for your lunch companion. The other day had tease Chang who is campaigning passionately for Kashoggi's motorists to be brought to justice. is is Here a clip now so I want to know who gave the order to kill them out and who else knew I want to know. Where is his body? I implore you to take action darkness essay. It is time for sanctions so that was her tease. Chang is speaking at the U._N.. Human Rights Council in Geneva last month. The Agnes was referring to as Agnes Calamar the special reporter on extrajudicial killings who had in fact just revealed called the results of this investigation you talking about ruler which found quote credible evidence clothes quotes that senior Saudis implicated in Mr Kashoggi's murder but let's turn to at t's challenges this was a powerful and really poignant. Poignant interview you had to do rule tell us what impression did you make. It was obviously a painful interview. It's painful for her to speak about Sharma but I think she's also now very driven. She is so frustrated by the silence she so frustrated by the fact that there has been no action that she's now turned this into her mission. Jomo Hachioji was essentially fighting for human rights. It's this is what he was writing about and she now feels that she has to take up that fight as I write in my lunch with the F. T. she now knows that she is part of the story. She's been studying the Middle East for a long time and now she feels that she's become one of its victims and there are so many of them so she was fighting back tears the whole lunch at one point when she tells me about the nights when she knew for sure that Jamal was dead. That's when her tears came rushing down one of the many things that struck me about her accounting hug conversation with you was relatively brief had in her relationship with Jamalco. Gee I mean they don't known each other for a few months. I wonder if you could just say a little bit about how they met in the nature of their relationship yes they only met in May of last year they met at a conference about the Gulf in Istanbul. Jamaa was speaking at that conference and she had only known him as someone who should seen on T._v.. She'd read him. She was very interested in Saudi Arabia and she was very keen to interview him about what. What was going on in Saudi Arabia what he was writing about and so she just goes up to him and introduces herself and says can we talk? Can you give me a few minutes and she speaks to him in Arabic because she speaks pretty fluent Arabic and I think that impresses impresses Jamal and so they meet up he asks her by Turkish awesome about Saudi and then she contact him again to tell him when the story is going to be published and two. I think check some quotes that's next time he goes to Turkey. They meet up again but this was a very quick romance in many ways but from what she told me this also has to do with the fact that Jemaah was in a very uncomfortable place ace at the time he was sort of looking for a new life. He'd been exiled in the U._S.. He was on his own so he was looking for a companion and he was very depressed and I think that they found in each other. You know the person she understood him. He understood her and so yes. This was a marathon romance. When he was murdered? He was writing columns for the Washington Post but as his then fiancee points out in this interview he actually in previous part of his life. He'd been an advisor to some members of the Saudi Royal Family Herself says in this interview one of the many powerful lines she says Jamal was from the palace not from outside it. He was not their enemy. Can you tell us why were they so frightened of him. Why did they have to kill him well? It's a very good question Alec. I don't think that anyone really knows why they were so frightened of him but it is also possible that they weren't that frightened of him. They had a strategy. Ah of silencing anyone who was critical of the Crown Prince Jamal wasn't the only one many of journals friends who stayed in Saudi Arabia are in jail and this new regime demint Saudi Arabia requires not only that you don't criticize they require that you approve the reason Jamal had left was because he did not want to engage and to support award a very hostile strategy towards cutter he was required to write in support of the strategy and that's where he drew the line and so there is such an intolerance that even someone who is only a writer actually not a writer who schooling for revolution a writer who wants Saudi Arabia to correct and to move on a better path. I mean you can even argue that much of what he was. Writing was advice to the crown prince but there is zero tolerance. It's not going to be easy for her. T snow is it nearly a year has passed as you said earlier for some parts of the sort of Western business in foreign policy establishment is not quite business as usual but they are going to re apply some of those ties to Saudi. What do you see happens to her now to? She pursue this cause at U._N.. How does she make any headway? I found and her to be very determined. I think that she wants to use the Kalama a report to try to put pressure on Western governments but may be more broadly she. Will become a voice that is just fighting for human rights at some point. I imagine she would even have to address that in Turkey. Because of course there are a lot of journalists who are jailed elden Turkey for hottest today. Her cause is Jamal but I think that she may also in the future want to broaden her course that it's not Jamaa and the Truth About Jamaa which I'm sure she will continue to fight for but YEP. She may very well be campaigner for human rights all is thrust upon her shoulders after just knowing him for a few months extraordinary I think we should end with a clip from Matisse which is also something of a call to arms from in her and she said this at the U._N.. Session in Geneva last month echoing what she said to you in this remarkable interview it's not only my below Jamal who was more that they but also democracy human rights and freedoms the failure to punish murderers F._X.. Also Mr Chair the truth always wins. He's story. We'll take note of those who stood with through and those who did not police take action.

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California museum can keep Cranachs looted by Nazis: U.S. appeals court

Red Eye Radio

07:11 min | 4 years ago

California museum can keep Cranachs looted by Nazis: U.S. appeals court

"For. Sure if he's a doctor but he helps us out that's. All we know, that was son Judah we had that sound that must have been an awkward conversation it was Harriet. But this is actually frighteningly common, around half the people claiming to be doctors in India are fake they have. No medical qualifications whatsoever but I've been speaking to the real doctor who's been offering. Thousands of them crash courses in medicine is medicine really something you can. Teach with the crash course that's what I've been trying to find out is a very. Controversial idea crash courses in. Medicine than fake doctors that's coming up a, world hacks. After the knees Hello this is David Austin with the BBC. News intelligence officials in the United States say spy satellites have detected renewed activity at a. North Korean, factory which has in the past produced intercontinental ballistic missiles the reports come just over a month after President Trump said, North Korea no longer posed. A threat following his meeting with the country's. Leader from so here's Laura bicker Steinle satellite images and the. BBC has spoken, to one of the companies analyzing this they say it appears to show vehicles moving in and out. At the site does this break, the words that Kim Jong in made to Donald Trump in Singapore Kim Jong. Il has always said that he would not text another missile he's never said anything. About stopping any building or activity with regards to building nuclear missiles and. Indeed this is a number of US intelligence reports which suggest that North Korea is continuing With its weapons. Program counting has continued overnight in Zimbabwe following Monday's election Zanu PF and the opposition MDC alliance have both been predicting. Victory on social media Andrew Harding is in Harare an election officials have, only confirmed a high turnout. Here in Zimbabwe but on social media the. Opposition leader Nelson Chamisa and his supporters already declaring victory in contrast Zanu PF officials are insisting that early. Indications from, polling stations around the country showed their party is on track to. Retain power foreign observers said the voting process was peaceful and by-in-large orderly whoever wins, a credible election will go a long way to restoring Zimbabwe's international reputation. I'm lacking foreign investment and debt relief for an impoverished country president Emmerson Mnangagwa said he. Was receiving, extremely positive information on the vote Chinese investigators say a state-owned pharmaceutical company which produce Used sub-standard infant vaccines did so by accident Celia Hatton has the details in a. Brief report China's, state Drug administration blamed faulty equipment used at the Wuhan institute of biological products in. Central China at unevenly distributed. Ingredients in more than four hundred thousand vaccines made last November which, were meant to protect, against a theory tetanus and whooping cough and another case involving. Sub-standard infant, vaccines eighteen people have been arrested at Chang-shang pharmaceutical and private company in eastern China they were accused of falsifying data to bypass. Regulatory scrutiny rescue is in Indonesia have airlifted the last of. More than five hundred stranded hikers of a mountain on the island of Lombok where. They'd been trapped by rockfalls triggered by an earthquake rescue team. Is now waiting with the body of an Indonesian climber who was killed. By a, falling rock world news from the BBC A court in Indonesia has ordered the banning of the country's largest Islamist group Jamaa unsure dollar to finding it guilty of carrying it acts of terrorism and being, linked to the Islamic state group last. Month the group's leader amount of Dirac man was sentenced to. Death for terrorism, Afghan officials say a roadside bomb has destroyed a passenger. Bus in the west, of the country killing at least eleven people and wounding forty others a spokesman for the governor of Farah province had the bus was travelling from harassed to Kabul. When it struck an improvised explosive device he blamed the attack on the Taliban earlier a suicide bomber killed candidate in October's parliamentary elections The former Congolese vice president and ex warlord Jean-Pierre Bemba. Has said he intends to stand for the presidency in elections do this December but will accept the result if, he loses, bender told the BBC that so long as the election was fair he would abide by the result rather than taking up arms as you did before if it is a transparent yes of course election transparent the result there we all respected this story of again. Is over for any fight is through the the voter now that's what. We want, to achieve Mr. Bemba plans to return to the DRC this week from Belgium after, a decade in jail following the quashing of his conviction for war crimes by the international criminal court the US court has ruled that the museum in California can keep to sixteenth century. Masterpieces by the German painter Lucas Curnow the, elder which were looted by the Nazis during the Second World War the life sized panels depicting. Adam and eve had been taken in a forced sale from Jewish art dealer who died shortly afterwards while fleeing, the Netherlands they eventually purchased by the Norton Simon museum in Pasadena BBC news In a village outside of Kolkata. In India there's a tiny concrete building where people go to. Get help well that I'm. A numb, I mean my name is the. Village Dr But here's. The thing Goten isn't a. Doctor at, all he has no medical qualifications He's what some people might call a quack Goten. Above your door it, says, doctor, you've. Got the title doctor. That's actually illegal on you misleading. Your patients hey Johnny mama I know it's illegal and I'm reluctant to do but. If I didn't, call myself Dr the villagers wouldn't, understand what I do. Some people think he's a criminal, he poses a danger to his patience and needs to. Be stopped but this man a real doctor has another idea and it's very controversial so. These people you ask. Me I don't think they are blah, FAS, and they're cheaters they're not, on very clear. In that this are primarily. Ended up aerial informal healthcare workers we call them wildflowers so we've. Taught give, you, tell them hey to give you some education this might work so that. Was, a, beginning Well Hello and welcome to.

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California museum can keep Cranachs looted by Nazis

BBC World Service

02:36 min | 4 years ago

California museum can keep Cranachs looted by Nazis

"Partner told us to leave and run is very scary because like the rock. Is going down from the mountain and our guys Child and Ryan Ryan keep Ryan and we. We run two pairs accordion Indonesia has ordered the banning of the country's largest Islamist. Group Jamaa answer route dollar after finding it guilty of carrying out. Acts of terrorism and been linked to the Islamic. State group the verdict comes a month after the group's leader Abdurrahman was sentenced to death for terrorism world news from the BBC. Officials in Afghanistan say a roadside bomb, is destroyed a passenger bus in western Afghanistan killing at least eight people and wounding forty others the spokesman for the governor in Farah province said. The bus was travelling from Herat Kabul when it struck an improvised explosive device he blamed the. Attack on, the Taliban an explosion at an. Army checkpoint in the southern Philippines has killed at least five people officials said the blast happened on the island of Basilan soon after van was stop By troops for inspection one soldier and. Four pro government militiamen died A US court has ruled that a museum, in California can keep to sixteenth century masterpieces by the German painter Lucas Cranach the elder which were, looted by the Nazis during the second World War after the war the paintings were. Given to the Dutch government which sold them in the nineteen sixties the court's ruling against the descendants of the initial. Owner is the final decision in the matter A committee of. The British parliament has said sexual abuse and exploitation in the aid sector is endemic across different charities and countries in a. Report the British MP's said organizations such as Oxfam, whereas bonding to cases of sexual, abuse with complacency verging on complicity Stephen Twigg chairs the committee the new report highlights collective failure to address. The endemic problem of sexual exploitation and abuse going back at, least sixteen years it would appear. That aid organizations have put their own reputations ahead of the protection of victims and survivors that is wrong and, that has got to change scientists in Britain have identified a new frog species intrical researchers at the, university of Manchester twenty years to determine that Sylvia's tree frog is a separate species. The MVP was I found in Panama in nineteen twenty five and that is the BBC news.

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