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A New Path to the NBA: Woj on the G League's Program
"Woge? It has now been three weeks since number. One ranked high school recruit Jalen Green announced on instagram. That he'd be passing on numerous college offers to instead. Become part of the new improved G. League professional pathway program. That's what it's called Q. Explain what it is and how it began Meena. It's it's really a bridge between the end of the wounded done era in college basketball in the NBA and what had existed which was really limited options for an elite high school player to do anything but go to college basketball. They put this program place. Two years ago and they started off with players they fell would be first. Round picks were highly regarded coming out of high school. One hundred twenty five thousand dollars a year would be assigned to League team and then you would enter the following years draft. They could not get anybody in that. I really year year and a half to commit to that program. A couple reasons. I think even more than the money agents and those who would advise high school players advised against the idea of going to the G. League where it seven. Let's say eighteen years old. You're going to be playing against grown men in there who played college who played overseas who've been in the NBA back and forth maybe mid twenties late twenties and they would hurt your intentionally hurt your draft stock where you be physically overmatched. It is a difficult lifestyle especially for young person. It's not charter. Flights it's not four seasons and Ritz. Carlton's it's the southwest flight connecting it midway Chicago to get the Iowa City. Adam silver was very moved by the fact that Lamelo Ball in R J Hampton to the top players in this two thousand twenty draft when to Australia next year take my talents to the NBA. Laura Hawks next year I will be going overseas to play an Australian basketball even with the New Zealand. Breaking choke deals in that five hundred thousand dollar a year range and there was not really an option for them. Here there are things we should be doing differently. So that for an American player who decides college isn't for me and I want to spend fulltime devoted to the game of basketball. That's my best chance to be in the NBA. There should be an alternative opportunity in the US spurred silver to push ref- Abderrahim. Who is the president of the G. League she and Rod Strickland Former all-star Mba guard who also works for the G. League in the NBA as part of this program? They've been out in the field. They've been out talking the families players and coaches and they certainly explained to Adam silver. We've got to change this program. So they updated this program specifically for players like Jalen Green. What exactly does it look like now. This is essentially a select team that will be comprised of the players coming out of high school and then veteran players who might otherwise be in the G. League who would get paid comparable salary to come play here. Play a mentor. Ship role to these players. Perhaps players on the back end of their career might like to who might have an I- already on coaching or working in a fraud office will working for the League and also realize that. There's going to be a great deal of scouting attention paid to this group of players. Nba and that. This might not be a bad place for them to still be seen as viable players right now. So that's the makeup of a roster. The coaches will be coaches that people have heard of with NBA coaching experience. Some of them former head coaches and they'll play a schedule that will include G. League teams but not a fulltime jelly schedule. So they'll play perhaps exhibitions against G. League teams. They might play national teams. Who might be touring from different countries? Different parts of the year. I was told they might go to Australia. Where there's an NBA Academy maybe play some Exhibition Games? There and stay there for awhile and train and move around and now the program became more appealing for the top level player. And you've seen now if you players make that leap when you say. It's more appealing in the financial. Incentives are better. How much better we talking? Well Jalen Greens deal with the G. League is around. Five hundred thousand dollars that includes incentives. I'm told that there's a base salary and then there's incentives for essentially just completing. Maybe it's a community service program or a life skills program things that are part of it that they disincentivize financially now. Every player is not going to get five hundred thousand dollars. Jalen green was a number one player in his class. And if you listen to John Devonian Mike. Schmitz are dropping analysts. And I listen to those guys. They tell me that he would have competed to be the number one. Pick in this coming draft and right now he's you know projected to be that in the two thousand twenty one draft so there was. I think a great credibility for the NBA The G. League to get a player that caliber come into this program that he might be a little bit of a Pied Piper for others but they're not going to pay all these guys five hundred thousand some of them the pay more than the one twenty five but they're really negotiating that and remember that. Those players inside endorsement deals. If there's somebody who wants to pay them to wear shoes jailing green again is is a player who see your companies have great interested Not all the players are going to get big endorsement deals and then there is a component that they will go back. There's a partnership with Arizona State and with the NBA. And you could go back and get your degree hate for by the League later on at some point and so those are the benefits of this for players who decide. They don't want to go to college or meetings. In some instances where players become eligible and can't go play college basketball. You mentioned that players. Who Do this can also get endorsement deals? Which at the same time this is happening the NC Double A. Just came out and said were exploring the idea of letting our college players also have endorsements with of course many caveats and limitations this being the NCW TC. All of this is being connected while the shaves but exploring for quite a long time. They always seem to sort of stay in exploration mode. And when you start to dig down into the fine print of what they talk about doing. It isn't what maybe the headline was of of trust. Release or a report about it. I will say this being a part of the. Nba's thinking was that they were reacting. I think a little bit to the Condoleeza Rice commission slash report which a couple years ago essentially said the NBA should do away with one and done. We must separate the college track from the professional track by ending one and done the NCAA stance was that the players who do not want to be in college. There should be an avenue for them to bypass college and that we should take them in here if they don't want be here and so the NCAA on one level has encouraged this of the NBA. Now part of the problem is the NBA and the Players Association. They have not been able to agree on the terms of ending one and done we call on the NBA and the N. Bpa power here to once again make eighteen year old eligible for the NBA draft so that high school players who were drafted may proceed directly to the NBA in theory. Both of them both sides the union. The League would like to end one and done. There was a sense that that this would have gotten done last year. But there are terms of an agreement that they can't come to to end it. And this may be shelved now all the way until the next collective bargaining agreement two thousand twenty four twenty five so for the NCAA right now like this is what they asked for and whether or not they loosen the ability for players to earn money in college or off lightness or however that happens then. I think that will impact this. But let's I still think there's going to be a lot of players who would rather go to college because by the way meaner if you WANNA get paid. There are plenty of places in college basketball that you can go and make money equivalent to what the Julius paying. And that's that's just a fact you're referring of course to the fact that it's an open secret that college kids get paid under the table. Me Knock. I've broken a few stories along the way. I don't think I'M BREAKING MATT. One of your with you right now.
"jalen greens" Discussed on The NBA Show
"All right let's get to the stories at hand. First thing's first We've got the Jordan dot coming up this weekend which I know everybody that is a basketball. Fan has been super anticipating The everybody in the free world posted this five minute clip of the show this morning. I watched it. Did you watch it. Of course I did. It was awesome in the in that. Five minute span. They do kind of introduce Jerry. Krause as this. You know the bad guy right. The guy that like wanted credit but didn't feel like he was given credit Jordan hated him. There's the problem between them and so they kind of introduce it and I could not help me. I couldn't help myself from thinking about years ago when I was very very young. Jerry Cross was always busy always a a big deal and he was scouting a WanNa say. I can't remember what team he was scouting for when I first started covering the NBA. And I saw him and of course he's famous guy knew who was and Kevin. I walked right up to him. He's walking out of the media room. I'm walking into the media room right. I extended my hand and I was like Mr Cross. Hey My name's Chris Vernon Welcome to Memphis nice to meet you. This do did not acknowledge at all like just walked right past me. It's this doctor going to make him look bad. I couldn't care less. He just blew right. Gilbert Arenas who has noth- nothing but a friend to you. That's right no it very rarely in my life have I ever stood? I mean it wasn't like he didn't see me or didn't hear me or not. Then he just had absolutely no interest in engaging me whatsoever it just blew right past me. It's always I am watching this and then you know I remember telling that story. What's on the like well? He has real bad social anxiety. And all this stuff like oh come on. I was rightness face. Like you're GonNa be nice to somebody I mean. This is the guy who said players and coaches. Don't win championships. We're going to do and right as he said years later. You know clarifying that. He like he meant more than one person which is true. But guys like Michael Jordan They deserve the credit. And it's weird. It's just weird. That like somebody could get that jealous envious of someone who is obviously so deserving of the majority of the attention for the success of the team especially as the general manager. Like it's like dude if buccal Jordan if Michael Jordan be Hanno wealth fortunate at all led to that and I look forward to watching a documentary. Whatever week that portion airs beyond being a basketball fan and and and a Jordan fan who grew up on wanting to see this so badly the other thing that we have missed is communal events? As it were we really haven't had anything Since all of this Corona virus in the shelter and home. Edicts have come about you know a no-shows are really every you feel like everybody's watching it at the same time you know. There are a lot of people that watch tiger king or whatever. That's gotten a lot of talk or some Netflix things. But in terms of something where you feel like everybody's watching it and sometimes you get this you know on Thursday nights on TNT or they'll be a Sunday afternoon ABC game and you just feel like at least on social media. There is this communal experience. Everybody's kind of watching the same thing or it feels that way and we ever really had any of those but I kind of feel like you know regarding social media and people connecting and giving their opinions on something that is happening. This'll be beyond basketball beyond the fact that it's about Jordan. Just a communal activity of which I feel has not really existed for the last several months. Which is something you always get with. Sports Games. Nfl Games NBA Games. College Football Games whatever. It may be that feeling that you're doing the same thing so many other people are doing. I talked with somebody who watched the first two episodes of screener and they said it was epic so grains person is somebody who would be open and honest if it wasn't what you expected it to be and it sounds like it is beyond what we expected to be. So I'm excited for tonight right So that's coming up and then yesterday. Big News drop regarding Jalen Green. He is by many accounts number one player in the country in the class of twenty twenty He was going ski. Had Its yes. He had a short list of schools that he was going to attend Little Stab for me considering. I don't know if you saw this. The Kid said if he was going to college you would have gone to Memphis so I would have seen the get all the time I mean unless it went like it did for him for James Wiseman very right. I mean who knows. That wasn't very fun. I must sell this kid Decides he is going to go to the G. League and what was so jarring about this was not that the kid is going to the G. League. It was the insane amount of questions that followed this decision. And what I mean by that is. How is this going to work? Like how does he end up on a team What's GonNa have with this and all of those answers were not accessible when the news leaked doubt that the kid was going to take this developmental path and go to the G. League? I mean I even called around. Nba sources and was asking questions and nobody knew and then as the day went on it was more explained that it's not really a G. League team They are going to be playing competitive basketball. A exhibition style. Almost and it will be a developmental team that is based out of Los Angeles. And that's what he's going to be a part of and it does feel like so many things with it are still to be decided. And it's all kinda getting figured out But it's inevitably a massive story. When one of the top high school kids is not going to go to college drought especially after we were about to watch an NBA draft a few months from now. Where two of the highest ranked kids did not play collegiate basketball last year. Well here's what we do. Now we do now. He's GonNa get paid at least five hundred thousand dollars right. I do know that the NBA will be paying for a college scholarship for him in the future. We do know that he's able to sign. Endorsement deals right away which could potentially for a guy like him exceed a million dollars So we we. Those are the things we know we do know. You said that it's GonNa be Dell Developmental team that focuses on building a roster with veterans. And this is according to Jonathan Gay Bony. Espn That they're going to veteran players. That helps support the development of somebody like Jalen Green and other players. That will join that team. We do now according to the Gabonese that this G. League team will face some other delete teams. They're just not going to count in the standings and could face foreign national teams are other academies around the world to and this when it happened this year but I've talked to a handful of executives that let's say in the future because our reported three years ago that this was the type of team that the NBA had in the works twenty seventeen. They had a vision of having a G. League team without an NBA affiliate four developments. And this is what it is but let's say in the future if there's two of these teams or three or four you could have that team play a preseason game egg and the NBA. It could in a midseason tournament it could. It could add two teams to make a field of thirty two for an NCAA tournament and this team for in the G. League could have an opportunity to play in the NBA midseason tournament. Something like that could be in part of the future and these are all like good. Theoretical things four a young player however there it does raise a lot more questions about how this is going to actually work moving forward and weather. This is actually better for a young player. There's a lot of good obviously with the financial aspect and the focus on the development. And everything like that but you know in the fact that get to stay home in the United States too but there are questions of whether this is overall a better thing better thing for the players than the existing system with the NBA really trying to just dominate development around the world with guys younger and younger ages. Yeah I mean look just right off the top of my head a how does it make money is I mean? It's just an awful lot of money to be spending or baseball's cutting minor league teams or trying to right right. It doesn't work there for for for revenue and granted I think in NBA MINOR. Leagues would have more interest right. You can look at this surface. Is this just a an expense? I think I think Jalen Green is going to be the type of guy. Let's say well if they jalen green is. Sassy is a top three pick. He'll open the floodgates. If you know what I'm saying no but a- look in order to make money you gotta be on TV. And I don't know if they're going to put these kids on TV or what. The other thing is who gets to do it. That's it. That's what I'm saying like there's just so many things that we don't know and what if Jalen Green. His best friend is the one hundred sixtieth player in the country. This happens all the time with college. Right they call them. Package deals is the NBA. Going to get in the business of package deals. J. Green says. Hey I'll come play but you know my buddy John Smith. I'll come if you bring him to. What's the cutoff in terms of? Who's considered elite? That can even be on this team. Do you recruit I I mean. Obviously you don't want I mean there's just so many things but if feels kind of like hey. The number. One kid in the country is willing to do this. We'll just figure it out. I just think there's so much figuring out to do And you don't know if it is going to be best for their development you know you and I got a mailbag question a couple of weeks ago about. Could we see more kids in Australia? Could we see more kids in New Zealand Given what has happened with Lamelo Ball? Rj Hampton and the like and. My answer was what you need is one of these kids that does not go to college becoming a huge superstar because it might be a fool's errand to attribute their you know what prepared them for the next level Necessarily because of where they played but there will be people do that they say. Oh well it's because he you know it. Man is way better off playing in Australia for a year then against grown men than he was playing for Georgia or wherever you know a kid may possibly go but going back all the way to the the Brandon Jennings d'emanuele Moody a Anthony Simon's Darius Bazeley on all right terrance Ferguson. On and on none of those kids have yet become a massive superstar. And.
"jalen greens" Discussed on The NBA Show
"O'Connor Kevin Obama Aka Kevin O. Concert COMING CLIMBER Kevin O. Controversy Coming Oh comment Givanno candy land. Kevin Opinionated Kevin O. Killian shout out to an instagram tm told me. I should add that to the mix. Killian Hayes made your number one CAV own doing this morning. Chris. I'M DOING. Great draft guide dropped. I printed it off my printer and it said at the conclusion you need. A new cartridge is thirty. Eight pages printed off. I'm not kidding. It's IT'S A beautiful draft guide. Isn't it? The design team did incredible on that. I can't stop looking at it. It's so pretty spoonful at works flawlessly. I love it. I love it too and we're GONNA go through the draft guy but let's get to the biggest news of the day. Which is the Horse Competition last night? I'm I only kid. I didn't watch it. Did you know I was binge-watching show that I will name later okay? All right well. Abc Show to be named later avoiding spoilers at all costs understood ABC ABC had a Disney Sing along so that's what we watched in my house. My mom turn that on at one point and we we had on. I didn't really know that much. It's nice it's for kids but some of the songs selections. I wasn't a big fan of all right. You're never going to believe this. It wasn't my choice to be watching deceasing along show. No that was a that was overruled. I did see the video posted on instagram. This morning of your son doing chance. The Rapper Song Awesome. That's from way back when Because what I what I have been doing is telling people and followers that I am like many that have young children. Do Our daily being asked to have a youtube channel and as that story goes. I'll keep this quick years ago so my son used to put out the IPAD outside next to his basketball goal and then mimic everything that the players that he was watching on the screen. Do Lot of kids. Do this I'm sure but the ball hit at one day it crashed to the ground and the screen broke upon the screen breaking. I had to retrieve everything off of the IPAD so that we could try to transfer it to a new one. Unbeknownst to me there were tons of photos but there were a million videos and for like a year and a half he had been going to his room and recording his own youtube channel. Which of course did not exist channel. Didn't exist but I'm talking. I'm going through the videos and it's like. Hey guys it's me William you know he's doing the whole bit and video. I posted was one of the videos that I retrieved there and he would just sing songs and he would do whatever it would be but now my daughter. She's full court pressing on the. Oh I WANNA YouTube channel. And I've tried to look this stuff up and I know I look I I keep on fighting it and now I've got them to the point where they are practicing. And maybe it's a phase that will end but I duNno get look. It's just a lot of work for me. They don't know how to do any of that crap. L. But what? Your son is nearing the age where he's going to be able to create his own account. Maybe no maybe I don't know you might be. They're all you know. He might have an account right it probably does he probably does. He's dead because I practice making youtube video. Meanwhile it's will have loaded and blessed to have a job where I am with my children much more than a normal job If I had like some kind of nine to five or something am able to be around my children all the time and still I could be filming a youtube video in their room and and I would have to find out about it. I don't know what all they know about stuff I tell you this was was it like a couple of months ago. He likes scrambled to K. And he scrambled to get it off the screen. You know how you do. If you're looking at something maybe you shouldn't be looking at or whatever and so I'm like scrolling through and I go to like my team or whatever you know what the name of his my team was these nuts. I was like what wow like. What is this it was like not just? I thought it was funny and I was. I guess your Bro. You ten look these kids. They know everything quick and so. I'm fighting off the youtube thing but I did pose at this morning Speaking of gaming by the way a lot of my friends have been playing video games. That's been like their way of connecting. My you know high school friends and all that And last night I purchased looks back. I turned to Game X. Box Yeah we can still play. We can be cross console. Can't we why you're on playstation? I'm a playstation four. You can do you. Can you cross console for? Can you do that for two? K? I know you can do that for like war zone. Four nine and all that. I know nothing about gaming some games and obviously it's I most aware of gaming because of my son. Ba Two KS knots. Currently cross platform chicken out trying to find me on. That bought an xbox. Just say you don't have to play me. I WANNA play with my friends Chris..
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
"Max. I agree with you wholeheartedly in Stephen. A say this first off you know. It's so much coming into the League has to deal with. Who'S ON THE STAFF? What environment you're in in order to be conducive to you growing as a player and Maxa Harper. Point your point about Mark Jackson granted. Mark Jackson issues with ownership but Mark Jackson and people can get into XS and os but from a basketball strictly building perspective like he wonders. What a senior staff. They wonder steph curry and Klay Thompson and first off. Let's remember that draft draft in two thousand nine like David Cohen the GM of the Minnesota Timberwolves to Johnny? Flynn overstaffing curry. Okay so first. Off the fact that regardless Bob Myers wanted to trade them or not like the first two years. These guys are in the league like they were good but nobody thought even watching Steph curry in college like nobody thought seven crew is going to be a top twenty greatest player of all time. Like I'm saying now because I think shooting puts him in that category and his biblical percentages three in the field. State that for him. Nobody thought that at the original time so I give them a lot of credit for finding them first off and then harnessing that talent and allowing them an environment conducive to letting them play that way because if they go to another situation look and I'm not comparing my my career to Steph Curry Klay Thompson. Because there's no comparison. I'm just comparing coming into the league. Coming into the League for me. I came from a pick and roll environment. I play the same way Steph curry and Klay Thompson. We're playing the first time. They came into the league with Mark Jackson. But when I came into the League I had to run the triangle to try and do something completely different. So the system wasn't conducive to me. Elevating Marsala play so Steven A. To Act like that wasn't the case for these guys and say to any environment they would spend no. They were groomed to be in this position. Now we're not taking anything away from them. They capitalized on it and they ran away with it but it still had to be in position for them to accomplish that in the first place what well first of all I would appreciate it. If you're gonNA come at me at least have the decency to quote the accurately. I didn't sit up there and say you know what they're walking into a situation in any kind of system. That's what I'm saying is excuse me. They're the greatest shooting back court in the history of basketball mats and Jay. Are they going to be the only two on court or do you have to put three other players with them on the court at the same time? I don't think you're allowed to play two on five basketball in the NBA. I'm making the assumption that the other pieces on the court could be found when I look at a pippen and Jordan. Don't I'm not comparing it to but when I look at Pippen or Jordan or I look at a shack in Kobe. I believe they would have won. Titles that doesn't take anything away from Phil Jackson. We know that Phil Jackson is arguably the greatest coach ever. He's won eleven titles but I don't hear anybody looking at Jordan Pippen and saying excuse me if it wasn't fulfilled Jackson. They would've never one if it wasn't for the triangle. Klay you're making your I. Just that's not what I'm saying. What I said was if you're looking at Phil Jackson. Of course they're not taking anything away from him. But you're recognizing effect that if I have two great components do I have faith that most organizations would be able to find pieces to put around the greatest shooting in the history of basketball particularly went back and say back in two thousand. They weren't the greatest back back then. They were talking about what they have one j with they would have. They would have been not two thousand eleven pacing. They would have been the greatest. Let's assume they would have been the greatest back court. Stephen L. Take your assumption. That is what we're arguing about arguing about the quality of Steph plus clay and whether that is so give you such a premium over any to come any other kind of pair in the league that you're short a championship it could. You could find the right pieces around them as great as those two are. They're not Jordan and pippen. They're not shocking Kobe. There's something lesser than that. So that's what we're arguing. I don't think it's just so easy that you can assume that. Because you're the greatest shooting back court ever you're GonNa win a championship because you'll figure it out not that's assuming a whole lot and in fact. Ed Baxter the dominant championship team until they got K. D. but maximum maximum J. be clear. I'm them yeah. I am what I'm talking about. Today's game outsource. That is those shooters L. Year. Hell Year.
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
"Quarterback I really don't it's it's such. It's such a bad move. It really makes no logical sense. Even if you take O'Brien at his word you could take coach and GM at his word and say okay. Fine you felt. You had to move hopkins because of the money. Demand will let if it's not personal. Which is a joke. Obviously like it seems clearly but let's say it's not the way you win super bowls in the NFL at least since the turn of this century which is now. Two decades old is with a rookie on his with a quarterback on his rookie. Deal never has the guy in. This century won a championship. So Marcus to your point. You're planning on several years down the road we. You're eventually going to have to pay your quarterback and by then you gotta put something together. Do it now. You made the playoffs. You have a super bowl caliber quarterback you have arguably the best receiver in football. You're supposed to do it now now. How we got to leave it on that note. Only three years all right. We'll see two three years from now. I just want to point this out. Only three coaches have won four division titles in the last five years. That's Bill O'Brien Andy. Reid and bill bell check and we know O'Brien's from that Belcher coaching tree. Geico has the insurance industry leading APP. Lets you manage your policy anytime anywhere? Which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you like animal control when you're cornered in your garage by an angry possum again You guys said you would be here about an hour ago and I think the positive is starting to get angry. Listen I thought if I felt it would go away. But now it is ripping holes in the drywall. And making certain nest. Just coming back. Always there for you with savings and the industry leading mobile APP. The new even Strasbourg the victory machine. The making unmaking of the Warriors Dynasty is stirring the POT and Golden State. Listen to this Ethan. Wrote that in twenty eleven warriors. Attempted to trade Steph in clay to New Orleans for Chris Paul adding that there were a few teams. That could've acquired the splash brothers. He also wrote that. It wasn't the only time that they tried to trade steph curry interesting Jay Williams back here with Steven A. I want to start with you. Do think the splash brothers would've accomplish. They did no matter where they went. Yes I do because I'm one of those guys that believe. I don't WanNa take any credit away from the Golden State Warriors. Who by the way? I spoke to Last night along with some guys around the league that emphatically denied that there was any truth to that particular trade evolving Klay Thompson and C. P. Three there was some truth in the is an extensive story to Klay Thompson. Ultimately being traded for Kevin Love. That was something that was considered years ago but that was about it in terms of clay instead traded. Hell no my attitude is this. Though I'm partial to shooters and I believe that when I believe Steph curry to be the greatest shooters we've ever seen in the history of basketball and I believe Klay Thompson to be one of the top five Judas. We've ever seen a game basketball. We gotta remember. It's not just bird. I'll go back to the days downtown. Freddie Brown with the Seattle Supersonics to Dale Ellis Ricky Pierce. And this is before Reggie Miller and Ray Allen and Allen Houston and those guys I'm talking about there was a I mean I listen. I grew up idolizing when everybody was loving DR J. I certainly love Dr J. Julius Irving I was an Andrew Toney fan for the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers who I believe arguably have one of the greatest of not the greatest mid range shooting game. We may have seen in the history of basketball. His mid range game was just lethal. But I'm telling you right now. This back court is degraded shooting backcourt that? I've ever seen in the history of basketball. I've never seen anything like it and I believe that when you have shooters like that. It's not to denigrate in any way. Draymond green who plays his role exceptionally well. Alita champion all of that other stuff. But I'm telling you right now. It's easier to find the parts necessary for to win when you have guys who could shoot long range mid range short range free. Throw line the way. These two brothers can shoot steph and clay auto real deal I. I'm not saying they might have won. They would have won three championships and win the five straight NBA finals. But I think they would have won a couple of championships together. No matter where the hell they were I don't think they want any together off. The warriors certainly not with the Hornets. I totally disagree. First of all. Let's recall what happened in Golden State Championship against Lebron James Team Missing. Not only Kyrie Irving but also Kevin love. It was Lebron James and Matthew Della Vedova is the second best player on the team and by the way they went six games to me. It is clear ramping up. He beats them that. You're going six games with della Vedova. Second what about when Kevin Love is third best. You'RE GONNA win that series. By the way the next year the warriors got even better one. Seventy three games and the cavs beat up. It took a joining of Kevin Durant. Durant joined them then. It was like okay. Gabe over. How do we know that happens with the Hornets? That's one two. How did they even get to the position where they were in the finals in the first place just because they had the greatest shooting backward of all time no and in fact if you look at the history of the League and I realized the Warriors Have Changed History in a way in this respect? It's never the two best shooters who were winning the two best perimeter players of big and another player. That's usually a formula. Not just two guys who can shoot the lights out. Klay Thompson is a great player. He's going to be in the hall of fame. One day he's capable of getting hotter than anyone ever scoring twenty six points in a quarter and that was his second best quarter one year second quarter because he set the record with thirty seven that set the second most important player on the warriors that enable them to do what they do is draymond green. It's pick and roll partner. It's the guy who when he was shooting. It allowed you to play five out. It's the passing the ball and all that stuff from your so big it that really revolutionize it made it small ball. And why were they all used that way? Mark Jackson did a great job development developing them instilling confidence. Get into play defense. But if you look at the offensive rating it was near the bottom of the League compared to what they had. Steve Kerr comes in then they change everything and then you not only have those draymond green who I mentioned what about Audrey Allah Audrey Dali growing on trees. It's like it's not so sure you replace Andrei Igwe dollar finals. Mvp look the warriors. Were very smart. Very lucky and still before K. D. joint were also lucky to even win one championship. I don't see that for the Hornets.
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
"Just heard Houston Texans head coach Bill. O'brien defending his very controversial decision to trade away. His top wideout top weapon in general Andrei Hopkins joining us. Now a man who always brings a smile to my face. Good energy right there. Marcus spirits good to see you steven. You're up first are you. Buying O'Brien's excuse herald. No not even a little bit. I don't WanNa hear that because the reality of the situation is that there's been a mountain of evidence throughout the years that bill. O'brien has made his own decisions. I'm not saying he didn't consult with people or he didn't tell anybody but he's made decisions for personal reasons. The Audrey Hopkins was a personal reason. They didn't get along and bill. O'brien had a great relationship with the Andrea Hopkins Hopkins was still be a member of the Houston Texas. You know why because what he had marcus on his contract like two or three years left on his deal. This is a future hall of Famer. He's had over thousand receiving yards for the last five seasons. He's had over one hundred receptions the last two you have a star young quarterback of the Shawn Watson who loves this kid. They were like brothers with each other. They both went to the same university Clemson University. And what have you? You know what Tom it is. You GotTa take that into consideration as well but what did you do? You decided three years two years in advance. You were going to make this decision on the Audrey. 'cause it's because y'all did not have an ideal relationship with each other and that superseded your football judgment I'm not GonNa sit here and tell you that Brian doesn't know football. The man's been to the playoffs about four different times. These wanted division just as many times. Afc South we get all of that even though he has a sniffed at a title we understand all of that. But I'm not gonna I sort of job. That he did a Penn state which was a damn good job. I know what credentials he had as an offensive coordinator working with Tom Brady before he went to Penn State. I'm not here to impugn his his his his football. Acura a matter of fact. It's because of that that I know it's personal because him being as smart of a football mind as he is because he's certainly not a dummy. There is no way on earth. You moved the Andre Hopkins unless your personal feelings usurped and superseded your football judgement and accurate he can try to slice it and explain it any way he wants to but the city of Houston Age town needs to hold him accountable for this. Because for some reason rick smits the GM has gone multiple other folks who've worked under him when they've struggled and then live up to expectations is gone somehow some way bill. O'brien is always the one who ends up standing since he's arrived in Houston. It seems to be everybody's fault but is at some point in time. H Town has to say enough enough. The moves that he's made it's costing us too much all right. The answer is this doesn't change my mind about Bill Barn. Bill Barnwell is an article. I'm GONNA reference in a second about Bill O'Brien at all Bill. Barnwell our own on. Espn HERE ESPN DOT COM. You can check out the article to which I'm referring said one day these moves the GM are going to lead to a thirty for thirty documentary there so perplexing right but so so there are two things here. One is the De'andre a guy like that and has a connection to a great young quarterback of a great wide receiver. You keep that together okay. So so it'd be like you know if wash walked in. Bill Walsh walks into the quarterback room tells Joe Montana you know that you you in that Jerry Rice Guy. You have a good thing going. But he's want too much money. We traded him. That's the one thing you're reacting to. It seems to me even but check this out. I'll go with bill. O'brien I'll say fine. I your logic based on what Hopkins wanted to get paid. You felt it was the best interest of the team to get rid of them. Let's take that is true guys? I'm not saying that. Let's just take. That is true and now examine what he did. He traded the Andre Hopkins and got back a running back on such a bad contract and that same barnwell article I referred to. He said you need to get at least a third round draft pick as compensation just for taken the contract. David Johnson's contract. So when you look at the deal swap fourth round picks in different years you call that more or less canceling out. Big Second Round. Pick and David Johnson for Andre Hopkins. Now think about this. If you're supposed to get a third round pick for taking David Johnson's contract then the second round pick you got really like more like a third round. Pick because you'd have to pack together just even move up to the second round. So essentially what he did was trade. De'andre Hopkins in his prime for like the value of a third round. Pick more or less. Think about that. Even if you take Bill O'Brien at his word. It's a terrible deal by a horrible. Gm So so this is this is this is to be and I love what you just said Bill. O'brien needed a lawyer to be with him during this interview for somebody to tell them this. L. I taught in yourself into this whole I the ball in today's NFL. Who in the Hale is planning for two to three years out with you? Have a franchise guy finally one organization. We've talked about teams. Are you getting rid of players? Bill Oprah are you saying I got rid of the Andre Hopkins to start to build layers of players for the Houston Texas in the future? First of all what did you deserve to think you still be there. Who's telling you you can make these moves and we wait two or three years from now to possibly have a run at at winning the Super Bowl let alone trying to win more than one or two playoff games. The second thing is this and I love the point. You brought a Max when you start talking about the value right. We look at these receivers. What CLEVELAND GIFT? For Beckham Julia. What did they what did they? What did Buffalo just yet for Steph? On what difference rounders for Brandin Cooks? What did they just get for? Brandin cooks to go. Listen this is personal to what you were saying. Stephen this is bill. O'brien trying to emulate the guy in New England. This is also Bill O. Brand having almost arrogant to tale your team that I'm getting rid of arguably the best offensive weapon that we have because I won't be two or three years from now. One of the players know that they're going to be there two or three years from now for you get a chance to try to win in this overall grand scheme of a player you just got rid of one of the top three receivers in the NFL. Basically for a third round big and you want to sail to not only a franchise quarterback but the rest of the team. We build them for two or three years from now may get the hell out of here. Well I agree just part of all of this is that is just Shawn Watson. Deshaun Watson is the key because when you have a young stud like that you want to do everything to protect him and facilitate his success. That's what any organization wants to do when they have a quarterback that young and that talented and for Bill. O'brien to take this is not just a God. That isn't all war. Receiver like like this is not been rothlisburger with Antonio Brown who were great inspite themselves. Because they didn't get along and we've now learned that's primarily because of Antonio Brown. This is not that kind of relationship to show Watson and the Audrey Hopkins. We're tight. They both came from clips it and the off season. We were there last year. Molly Max like like. We talked about numerous occasions. When clemson hosted I take and Daboh Sweeney took took us for tour at the University of facilities being a producer. I take they rate he raved rave about how the players come there. In the off season they still have lockers. They obviously have access to whatever Clemson has available and it is all world first class. Bacilli these make no mistake about it. This isn't special down there at Clemson University. They got all of this available to them so they return off seasons they trained together. They play together. They hang together. They're boys and bill. O'brien said Bump Dat. He's so it's not just the hop because he did it to. He did it to destroy Watson and I don't understand how you dress up to your.
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
"Maximum. We brought up the issue of star power. I think that was something that is applicable to a Ziya Williamson or trey young. But I also feel like we're moving into a different realm here within the basketball space guys and I said before and I know it breaks a lot of college basketball fans hearts but when you look at the pecking order of notoriety around individual players right it goes NBA. Then it goes high school then it goes college like it's hard for you guys. Tell me who are some of the top college players? Are this year in college basketball right. Oh be top guys that have came on. Espn but I can tell you about Jalen. Green I can also tell you about a kid named Imani Bates who won player of the year as a sophomore in high school. So the notoriety with Mars is real with overtime with the surge of the Internet and a lot of these kids have four hundred thousand followers on instagram. I mean there are being tracked by all these different sources all over the country. So can you imagine a scenario because of her health? Speak about this by saying that. Hey we're probably not going to be allowed to have bands in stadiums until two thousand and twenty one imagine a scenario so just continue to go on for a little bit okay and then you don't have kids that are in school but we're finding some way to get the term amateurism. These kids to play College Football College basketball when they're no fans in the stadiums and there's no school so this term student athlete also know it becomes athlete student and I remember people used to say. Well it's getting your education so now there are no classes but these athletes are supposed to come back and play for university when they're no band no classes but they're making money forty university important network. Something that kids pay attention to. Kids are worried about their brands earlier. Time now they're paying attention to how can I monetize? My value leverage my platform. So yeah not only. This will be the norm. And it's brilliant. Adam silver create an alternative opportunity for these kids and this kid Jalen Green. He's earned way more than five hundred thousand. Because I tell you what? Every brand life talked to doing stuff with the boardroom. Every brand talks about. We want to appeal towards a younger demo. So every every brand is going to say. How do I get notoriety? There's going to be content. That's going to be built about him but league is going to push him. He's GonNa make well over a million dollars so if you're a kid that's in the top twenty and you have a chance to go directly to to. League play on a team. That's going to be in Los Angeles. Okay and your earning potential. Is that higher. Why wouldn't you do that? It makes all the sense in the world genius move by Adam Silver and NBA. Well it's a it's a genius. Move by Adam Silvani NBA. That's one way to look at it. You certainly don't want to strip credit away from them for being smart enough to make this move jay but not Aaron Goodwin. From last night I got an agent. Text me right now talking about excuse me we also let the NBA off the hook with this as well because that nineteen year rule. Where you know what you've got. American players primarily black players that come out of high school and they gotta wait a full year before they come into the NBA at the age of nineteen but that rule is not applicable to European players. That was something that was a battle. That was something that was a lot of noise was being made about as well so even though we WanNa Give Adam silver credit and we want to give the NBA credit. Let's recognize the fact that this does benefit them as well because not only do you address. The you know one year out of high school in Nineteen year old rule. But you're also buffering an elevating of the profile and potentially the product of your G. League by bringing attention to that particularly is if it's just for one year before you know you're destined to go into the draft as opposed to needing to go to college first before enter the NBA draft or go to Europe. Now you can go to the G. League. It's an option and it's great for the kids no question about it but let's also understand it benefits the NBA tremendously so as well. We can't ignore that. Yeah you're the point about Europe even an older player when you look at what happened when you look at why this happened. The it was right for it. Not only is college making mistakes but also we've seen players opt for Europe. High school players go to Europe so this is as much a reaction to that to keep the talent pool here. As it is to the mistakes colleges making access add onto that buffer of going to the G. League and having a year that is also for the sake of the older players in the NBA. Let's not forget that there's a players union and a lot of guys who the latter part of their career. DoN'T WANNA lose out on what they're earning potential could be because a younger player comes in so this is also the union working with the League to make sure that they are in protection of some of their older players the elderly statesman who are still representing the League at the best of their degree. So that's why it's important to that. That's fine to say Jay and I don't necessarily disagree with you but I think it's also important to point out that's a year entering the draft delayed too because since you had the nineteen year ruled. That was a delay. Now you've shifted it by making sure you feed your G. League but in the same breath one could easily argue that Jalen. Greece should be in this year's draft and then if you WanNa send him to the G. League for his rookie year before he plays in the NBA that's fine but at least he would have been in the NBA this year and if he would have been a top ten pick he would have been paid considerably more than a half million to million dollars. Which means that you still benefit if you're the NBA to some degree. The kid benefits better than going to or having to sit out a year. But you still cost the money on the NBA side because Jalen Green. Without that nineteen year rule would be in the NBA draft right now and getting paid considerably more money. All right. We'll see is a trend here. J. Great to have you with us. You brought up a lot of interesting points especially about the pandemic with the fans in the college is being affected. What does it mean? Spirited name means speed airfreight gender. That's why stay farms announcing good neighbor relief program. We know that our customers are driving list. Which means fewer accidents so stay farms? Returning two billion dollars to auto policy holders for the period ending may thirty first and we'll continue making real time decisions to best serve you our customers because now more than being a good neighbor means everything like a good neighbor. St Johns Hopkins was a great player in Houston. Made a ton of place for us. You know just did a great job. No obviously the the production is there Aaron. Everybody knows what that production is. I'd say with three years left on his contract. His representatives himself myself and our our team of people we spoke. We felt like relative to what I said earlier. Salary Cap Future Our team being able to provide our team with more and more role players layers of players. It was in the best interest of our team to move the Andre to Arizona..
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
"Provide a one year development program outside of Minor Leagues Traditional Team Structure Stephen. How does the NBA look with this decision? They look fantastic. I think that Adam silver clearly appears to be ahead of the curve And I'm proud of what they did. Here let me give props to my man Chris. Hey for Yahoo. That's my brother. Always good to see him doing his thing. He Bit Abro. Let me get back to this kid. Jalen green here. I spoke to his agent. Aaron Goodwin last night I spoke to a couple of NCWA coaches obviously some folks in the NBA community. Look what the NBA is doing. Essentially what you're taking our top prospects you're offering opportunity. Let's say for example. You're one of those rare stars coming out of high school where it's clear that you're destined for the NBA. You could go to college. You could play one year before coming into the NBA. Or you know you've got some people like Lamelo Ball and others that have gone overseas or they've Gone Australia or China or someplace like well guess what the NBA said. We're tired of sending out scouts all the way over there. We're tired of being devoid of the opportunities for these young men to really really develop their skills. And what have you because they need to go someplace else just to earn money because the NCWA won't allow them to do so particularly when it comes to profiting off their likeness. Well here's a solution. Even though the average salary in the G. League is thirty five to fifty thousand dollars. We're here giving these guys a half billion dollars. I'm told in. Jalen greets case his definitely more than a half a million dollars plus. We're giving them the odd. They could go to college if they want to. And we will pay for their education so we're not sacrificing their education for the benefits of basketball. But we're still allowing them to play basketball. Get a decent salary to say the least. I mean the average salary in the world ain't even fifty sixty thousand. You're talking about a kid making five hundred thousand dollars or more. This is a beautiful beautiful thing and it puts the NCW on notice that you can't get away with exploiting these athletes the way that you've been doing for decades your time is up the NBA is on the scene. You always serve in one year. There you go to the G. League for one year. So you develop your skills you weren't you learn the NBA game as an understudy to some degree from those guys in there and not only that you're available for the draft. It's not like a particular team has. You're right you're able to enter. Jalen Greece's case it will be the twenty twenty one NBA draft and he's eligible for any team that slotted to take him in whatever position they want to take him at while at the same time being in that Developmental League learning NBA system being paid in excess of a half a million dollars while still getting his education paid for if he so chooses to do it. I'm told it probably be online. As opposed to actually attending a university it will be online classes. But all of those things I think are great thing are called Amer Goodwin myself last night to express how happy I was that this happened and I hope to see more of it from elite athletes coming out of prep until the NCWA steps up and starts taking care of these dudes and compensating them the way they deserve the NBA looks very good. Adam silver looks good but I want to focus on the NCAA for a second because by comparison mark ever as usual looks bad and this is consistently the case and by the way. Marc EMMERS NOT THE FIRST NCAA PRESIDENT. Who's look bad? They usually look that they are currently debating silly issues that are that are very one sided. There's really no argument to not let the kids profit off their own blackness off the court only argument for that because you WANNA control them. So so why do we like be idea of college basketball being the minor league for the NBA because with this signals? There's there's another viable minor league the G. League is yeah. Sure the average salary for different lower level players may be a middle class salary which by the way its own benefits rather than college then so maybe some kids would say no. I think I'll do better going to college whether I make the NBA or not but for the elite prospects. Stephen said several times half a million dollars or more. That's good and you're learning basketball and you can dispense with the kind of pretense the hypocrisy of the quote Unquote Student Athlete. When it's an elite Guy who's going to be one and done and just kind of show up to class to check the boxes and then use it as a minor league and build the star up and get out of there as soon as possible. Make money for the NCAA and the schools and get out of there as soon as possible. So why do we want college basketball in the first place it seems to me there are two reasons one? We have a sentimental attachment to it. We know we. We do see watch documentaries. And and you know reminisce about the old days in the big east and all that kind of stuff and sure and they're great memories and that will continue for some lower level players. Why not and we can watch it and to. It's because we think college is good for young people. That's a good value to have as a country maybe patronizing in a certain way at certain times. Because it's not for everyone all the time particularly if you're coming out of poverty for example and you have a generation of people you'd like to help in the money would be right there if only you could go and apply your trade like everyone else in the world but their rules in place that keep you or their incentives in place to keep you funneling you towards something. You don't really want to do in this case college for some of these guys but it's basically a good value that we like college for young people. So that's what's keeping the college system in place in the first place. Are those strong enough reasons to not do something like this. Well clearly not. We can dispense with the hypocrisy of the elite of the elite showing up in college for one year and then and then bouncing going right to the NBA. This makes more sense. It's a more honest way to do things it doesn't really hurt the NBA. At all. Maybe a little bit in the sense that now college can't be the star making machine that it was for the NBA but the NBA mix stars by themselves very well. They look really good right now by comparison the NCAA looks as usual shortsighted foolish.
"jalen greens" Discussed on First Take
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"jalen greens" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
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"jalen greens" Discussed on Pull Up with CJ McCollum
"L. L. to sixty four thousand. Okay back to the show right now. We want to welcome our special guests he hails from Greenfield Wisconsin. initially actually committed to Wisconsin before backing out to head to Kentucky. He was drafted thirteenth over on the first round in two thousand nine hundred draft to the Miami Heat. It goes by the nickname boy. Wonder had no idea. But it's nice to know that you have Indyk name name. Boy Wonder it was given him by his college teammates in Kentucky where he studied communications. He wasn't there long because after about five months it was time for him to get to the League. Special Guests Tyler. Eero Research John John. Thank you no problem. Welcome to the pull up pot. It's Corentin it's social distancing. It's all those things more. How have you been able to Kinda still work out? I know we have. We have all these options. Have you been able to kind of keep focus during these tough times in? How's your family doing as well go? Yeah I mean. I'm doing good mom. We gave their backing walkie disdain. Aside making sure mom Milo brothers I have. They're doing good so when Miami. I'm just inside playing video games today on film and stuff like that don't workouts retained but there's not much going on in a row the same thing tie so like give us a sense of your day to day schedule and how it's changed obviously the last five six weeks you know and and the zoom workouts with the team like obviously there's no basketball so how were you able to stay productive throughout this time. Yeah I've this a lot different. You know now not being able to relieve the House of going to the Rena. Every morning was part of my routine. Getting up early shots before practice announced light. Zoom workout set eleven. Am with team you know they. They sent a couple bands awaits Housen. Were pretty much doing ads. Zoom workouts in the living room and really trying to make that work We've been I've been outside a couple of times during announcement sprints and stuff outside trying to stage Admitted I can. Have you been able to shoot a basketball at all during this time? I think I've been talking to my friends and this is the longest. This is the longest I've ever gone without shooting in my life. I think I shot a ball one time before they actually close all the arts. I went I went to art rounding Bert. Two and a half weeks shot a book and Lucky you. It's been Twenty seven days. I took the break. I took the break because I felt like they're gonNA shut down a practice facilities anyway so I didn't go the first five days and then day six win they seven they shut it down so I couldn't go back so yeah I got a little taste of working out and then it was over for me but in terms of the stuff we're doing basically the same stuff We've had some zoom yoga sessions. Guys are working out at home. Medicine Balls Jumper Open. Basically we joke. You can only get Joe Workouts and at this point unless you have a full gym you can push ups. Sit ups pull ups dips. That's basically all all you can really do During these times so CJ. I know you've been running hills a little bit right and tyler urine side. Do you ever feel like tyler? That the days we were talking earlier about the days are molding together to the point. Where you have to remind yourself like I gotTa do this today. Maybe I have to get this done like just to try to stay. Productive would say mentally active. The for sure. I think you know every day started the same day like this is never gonNA end. Every day is insane but Coast though really. He called me today. He just wanted to make sure like is keeping up on a routine Biggest thing just really just trying to stay partook productive know. Whether it's reading the book does doors up different. Try to better yourself under any different way. Dangerous Tom that's one of the things I've noticed if you don't set a schedule each day whether it's eat at this time read it this time watch. Tv shows this time play video games. This time your day will just kinda run it all run together in the next thing you know you put together a week of of eating bed staying up till three. Am watching Netflix Until Five Am. So I've tried. I've tried to put together a little schedule of just call us at this time. Do this at this time. These are my work either. My light workout times and It's it's been helpful but it's still. It's still hard to. It's hard to train when you don't know what you're training for exactly. We don't know this is insane. I I WANNA talk to you about your rookie year before we get back into to summertime You kind of person seen in summer league. I would say I had watched a little bit. I don't watch a lot of college basketball but I watched a little bit because I heard that Devon Booker comparisons. I seen the jump shot this is. I wanted to kind of see how they let me see if Devon Booker but I like your game I think it translates. I feel like you're playing well. Then you went through some injuries. What was your rookie season like early? On and time by the practices I know the Miami Heat practices from what I've heard can be very competitive a lot of conditioning. How did you adjust from going from Kentucky to Miami? I think Kentucky really prepared me for looking for obviously Miami. I think the way. The coach must've prepares his player than what he does. Not as far as development things like that after one year he kind of prepared me for coastal Paladins said with the edition during the practices. Stuff like a Miami's a place. Where if you if you liked to work is good for the EPI like good higher standard next as my first team. I've been on so I really don't know to compare it to but definitely believe we were pretty hard also like you said Tyler did the Kentucky Practices and feel of Kentucky Program. We talked about. Bbn earlier did that. Prepare you or how did it prepare you for the NBA? In terms of on off the court pressure everything that goes along with being at Kentucky. How did that translate to the NBA? Yeah for sure. I tell people all the time. It's like going to take more than just going and playing basketball and like you said the pressure that comes with having to perform every night on the practices are just different. You know I'm not the only pro- that went college. So is going up against different pros. Every single day in practice not really not help my development every day's going against the guys who are bigger than me stronger than we really helped me out you talk about competing in practice one of the guys that love compete and get to the gym earliest Jimmy Butler how has imp impacted your career so far and do you have any funny Jimmy stores. Because I know he's a he's quite the character he's the character he He flew me to Chicago over the summer. We worked out there for a while for like a week. We can have. We begin like five six in the morning. Every single day Working out throughout the summer right before the training camp star. So that was that was good. He Really Sean some light on me. Just how hard he works even though how good he is in like testimony to you to obviously guys himself who are done so much but they still work hard to continue to get. Better Celeste. Jimmy's really helped me in. That way tyler. Could you said some light onto the the practice worth you Jimmy? Were I know that he he turned to you early on and trusted you early on and you hit a. I think it was a game winner in practice. And that did that help at all or take us through that I think the first day got to Miami like there. The whole team was Jin's Jimmy titled You gotTa Guard Jimmy. Jimmy got a guard Thailand. They pretty much from. Jimmy was put me in the post. All that does he just likes back on this. I've respect his game and he is just charged with a non Rebecca Ataman. Show Malcolm play a little bit. You talked about work ethic being able to compete. I think a lot of that came from from your father. What type of influence was in Your Life? And is he still to this day? I know a lot of times in the NBA. You have your circle of friends for me. I got circle of friends. I got my family. My brother who I talked to every day L. S. He kind of kept you saying actually got a chance. Meet him during all star break. He's a funny do but I actually want to ask you. How have you kind of stay sane during these times because in the season? It's it's like a roller coaster ride like one night you hitting a game winning next spraining your ankle and Alpha while so how did you Kinda stay even kill? And how did he help you get through injury process? He's always you know. Push me my whole. Life is always good at never not let me get to a never get too low so that obviously would get injured on having pretty On my salary just poured me let him. You know like get back right. Obviously by my main thing is being able to play basketball on on the court S. Who's GonNa Make Me Ryan? So he's continuing to get better but he's always going to push me in He's always done that since I was a little kid. What was your moment tyler? Did you have a moment or a season where the NBA became a possibility for you like? Do you remember the time where you thought I can be a pro? I honestly didn't really know how good you had today to be Grownup you always dream of it. But when the opportunity came.
"jalen greens" Discussed on Pull Up with CJ McCollum
"But it's good and it's not like a long read either. It's it's quick but I like it was recommended to me in very very powerful book. Sounds great man. I'm going at this thinking about. That book sounds awesome and it has a bar in there. It basically it has a has a statement that basically says the most important person in your life their their opinion so basically think as a kid the most important person in your life is your parents usually. So you're striving you know to basically make them happy like their opinion of you is what you value most and then as you get older and Kinda shift into the working world your coworkers opinions of you is kind of what you value most Kinda shifts and it talks about that that shift. Can you relate to that though because you're in such a unique field like your coworkers or your teammates? So do you relate to that. Yeah in a sense of like I compare it to this as a basketball player. Although I don't care what people think about me because I've reached a point where I just go live my life and I know who I am and I'm confident comfortable who I am but when you're younger you want to you want approval by your peers. You WanNa be stamped like when another player says you're nice or like he's like that makes you feel good on the inside because they play with me there in the same level they see everybody against everybody like people always say like we know. Who's who as a player you know. Who's real has a journalist. You know who's good journalists and who's not so when you get approval by your peers teammates but people that work in the same Same career as you think it means more than a casual fan or someone just saying like. Oh He's nice. You appreciate the casual family life and your game but you really appreciate it when when there's an expert who does the same stuff as you saying that you're you're good at it and they sign off on you so I I kind of like I agreed with agreed with that part that point of it because although we're all self sufficient and self and self Secure after a certain point. Lives like you do love to hear encouragement and good things From your peers especially Even if it's co workers like I can imagine if I worked at nine to five. I would like to be recognized for being good at my nine to five by my peers. That people that work alongside being in other districts and in parts of the world. Yeah you're right about lie. Journalists Noah I didn't even think about it like that but like I got I know who's real and who who's who works hard and you know who's great is really the job of. Who's taken the easy way out? Learn all no genuine. Who's not exactly like all you can hide it but it comes out. Yeah how would you compare then the like assurance or respect from your peers so your teammates and other guys you play against compared to other coaches like. Would the comparison be no? I think I think that that falls under the pier catalogs Coaches are high level professionals. Who evaluate the game? You play against them. You compete against them so they have a great understanding of who you are as a player and what you're capable of so I think that's To be honest that that's equally relevant and sometimes in some cases more more relevant because they've been involved in a game For so long yeah shifting the page a little bit Trying to think of transition but I didn't have one. There's a lot of people out there who people. There's a lot of players out there who are in position to take control of their own brands. You haven't Lamelo ball of the world. We have another player. Who's taking a similar but different path in in deciding not to go to college Jalen Green One of the best players in the country has decided to take the NBA League path. They're going to be creating for him Jordan. You have a lot more details. The maze going to be making a lot more money than he would made by going to college and still has the opportunity to go back to college and attendant and get his degree. What do you think about this decision? So I'm not as surprised because I had been told months back that Jalen Green was considering the pro route. Although I thought would be more. So of like the Brandon Jennings go to Italy or RJ Hampton. Lamelo Ball. Go to Australia New Zealand. That being said it is a little bit. I wonder how much this is. The sign of the of the new times because as of right now. Obviously we don't have a high school to the NBA rule. There will be a new. Cba and that will be a significant. That will be a significant topic of conversation. But I I think that we're going to start seeing more and more of this regardless. Cj Jalen Green for those who don't know number one overall prospect prolific. Just an absolute stud and he if he was in this draft as a seventeen year old He would have been a one of the top picks. He's really that good. So my biggest thing is like big. Is the big picture here of. Is this more of what we're going to see regardless of what happens in terms of the The prep to the NBA rule. Just more we're going to see guys just saying I don't need to go to college. Let me just get paid a year earlier. I absolutely think player's GonNa take this route Especially due to circumstances and in the state of the NCW right now. I think a lot of players feel like instability. Times has taken advantage of them. They're like Mr Name and they have an opportunity to go make money right away while playing on a big stage. I think it's something you have to consider. Especially if you know. You're going to be a one and done type of athlete. If you know you're not going to finish college anyway. I think this is something you have to consider explore and you look at a Lamelo Ball. Who went overseas was paid in still maintained His chances of being a top top ten pick. I think he's still in consideration for potentially being the number one overall pick Think a lot of players are watching and seeing how that's going. Rj WHO's also in position to be a top pick. So I think a lot of players who were good enough Are going to consider hiring agents in and becoming professional a lot sooner than they they probably would an impasse years because of people's hatred for the incidentally at this point I think a lot of people were fed up in sick of it and wants and wants to take advantage of their name and likeness. Right away in Isaiah. Todd's another guy in their top recruit. He was committed in Michigan. Blue Chip player says he's now going pro. So you can start to see how this could domino. But I wonder like so the whole deal is that the G. League was paying guys. One Hundred Twenty Five K. Now they're opening a now they're upping it to five hundred it. What point or what's the number is five hundred number where it's enough It's enticing enough for players of that calibre to say I'M GONNA go. I'm GonNa go that route because they're our downfall supply in the G. League empty jams bad travel. Batta combinations stuff that you wouldn't have to deal with if you're playing at a major program like a Michigan or Memphis or wherever I think if you have a chance to make a half a million dollars While competing at a high level in front of MBA executives. You have to consider it especially if you know you're going to potentially go pro early for some guys. I think college is necessary. I'M UNI time to develop a plan from scouts. You need to go compete at the collegiate level and you may not be ready to to be an adult so to speak when you become a professional athlete and give up your amateur status. You're basically saying you want to become an adult and assume adult responsibilities paying bills Being being more Responsible for your actions as opposed to when you're in college you're excused for some of the things you do because you're still considered a kid but now I think that the money is raised for those levels. I think people are going to be invested in potentially making that that opportunity available to them and see the reason why. This is really good to me when I think about the ramifications of it is to your point about the NCAA this now puts pressure on the NC double A. to improve their status for players so to say to their kids. Okay maybe we can allow you to profit off your likeness whether it's for Jersey or a video game maybe we can give you a larger stipend for food whatever it is to me this move by the NBA by Adam. Silver and the G. League while is now putting pressure quality pressure on the NCW. That never had before I like it. I like it a lot. I think that is going to be at a crossroads here where they're going to lose a lot of high level players due to either going overseas or going to the G. League especially if these if these potential freshmen have a chance to make a half a million dollars. Taking Science shoe deals right away they can begin taking on money on on differ. Endorsement deals and campaigns. I think it's a decision that should be thought about carefully. Obviously but if I knew I was going to go to school for six months and then go to the NBA. I probably would not go to school if I had a chance to make a half million dollars in. I knew there was a proven track record of players who had done something similar to this and gone on to become professional athletes in NBA. I think you have to consider it nine times out of ten unless you just want that college experience. Yeah and that's that's a great point as Ahah Todd Jalen Green and now a few others veil be the original first domino's to fall if they have success especially early on now. Let's say their first two three years and then get a bigger deal if they have success real tangible success. And I believe we'll see more and more of it. Moving forward Regardless of what the does yeah we're definitely going to see more and more of it. Incidentally at some point is going to have to pay players they don't know how they're going to structure and how they're going to go about it but it's I think it's inevitable Part of the NC Double A. And how it will kind of progress so to speak. Yeah five hundred feels like about that number. Half a million dollars feels like the right number. It depends on the player someplace worth more honestly some players worth less so I think it depends on the player what his ceiling is. If you're particularly the first pick in the draft and as you said before this kid is good enough to have gone pro right now and been picked as a top ten player. You look at the contract still a slave for a top ten player in the NBA draft. You're looking at anywhere from one. Point eight probably two million slotted to two million to what three point three million over the course of three years after taxes. You're looking at a fraction of that. So I think depending on the player and how long this season potentially is going to be because think about it. They have to structure a scheduled. Have to figure out the travel accommodations. They're going to play. Are they going to Europe? Are they going to play? Nba teams will the preseason games. There's a lot of things they have to steal factor in. But I feel like they're in a position to kind of experiment and as it goes on as progresses it's only going to get better and and attract more and more players. Yeah and remember when you when you take that step toward the pros and you go to the G. League not only is Jalen green getting five hundred thousand dollars but he's now much closer to a studio. He can talk to shoe companies and get an endorsement contract..
"jalen greens" Discussed on Pull Up with CJ McCollum
"Away way leaving the house only when it's in assessing Groceries PETCO and that's about it. Those are the only times I leave the house. Besides when I go on social distancing with Fiona We're GONNA take this time to to recognize Anthony towns in prayers up to his family After the passing of his mother virus complication. So that is a very tough situation in Once ago wanted to tell people how serious this corona virus is into remind your loved ones especially those who are over the age of fifty two to really stay inside because this thing is serious outside of that Jordan. It was Easter Sunday this past Sunday for me as well as Passover for you. How did you spend this time with your family and loved ones? And what was the best meal you had the last week? Thank you for recognising pace It was quite good. We had Coriander Salmon with some ginger put a little cinnamon. It was very good baked. It that was Clutch meal and then. Oh I got a new wine called relic. It's IT'S A P. No WE'RE NOT. We'RE NOT AT Q. The why music. But we did have a great Pino with it so I really enjoyed that and I'm curious what your favorite meal was. Text me that why until I can add to my list but I requested classic Sunday meal. So I had the MAC and cheese cheeses cheeses shallots kind of cheese shoutout to our Lord All types. I'm not even sure what types of cheeses were on it but it was very cheesy a delicious Mac and Cheese Collard Greens. I had dressing Candidates MAY FROM SCRATCH WHO? The sauce was handmade to loosen sessional Fried chicken wings homemade baked chocolate chip cookies. Oh that's the best. I went to go some left. We're going to put the put the bread in there to keep himself afterwards Let's just go through so for those of you out there. Cookie LOVERS IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA get your cookies right away break-up a piece of bread and put it in the bag or put in a little the really the can or whatever you have. It'll keep the cookies soft. That's a little hidden gem for you. One of those legends secrets that I'm exposing To the real world so you all are welcome for that but outside of that. I took a week off of no alcohol. Just want to get myself a little cleanse a little break. I'm back I'm back like I never left. Come back wearing the forty five for you. You're worrying to one back award is how did you feel after taking the wine hiatus? I felt good just a little break. A little cleanse. Usually I would do two to three weeks of cleanse by feel like that was necessary due to circumstances But I think one weeks solid. Yeah when we all water. I don't drink the orange juice for nothing. It's just water water all day over one hundred is trying to get as many hours as possible per day to Kinda flush the system The rehydrated and really focus on you know somebody's workouts. I'm doing obviously. It's not the same as when I play but I just try to stay as hydrated as possible and just give my body you know. Different looks kind of balance things out. But it's been cool to challenge yourself. You have nothing else to really do in the House. You've got to find little small challenges For yourself what's the what's the what's the hardest workout you've done during this time todd has been sending. Us workouts are by weekly. So they've been they've been pretty tough There's hard body weight stuff body weight but I also have got medicine balls ladders jump. Ropes bans My Kaiser machine gets tomorrow Also have the the Peleton another Peleton bike because the adjustment period. We have to go through from at least right into me. Riding is a is a lot It's GonNa Tedious and I'm sweating on the handles in getting a get it in so probably have to get another one but the lower the lower body workouts have been tough. It's a lot of different launches. What about what about Lunges squats all that stuff. Yeah I was GonNa say like what kind of explosive stuff just to keep. Keep sharp there. Yeah they they implement a lot of jumping so Trying to get your touch your higher impact stuff but like in place. A little bit of movement resistance slides Resistant movements already. Els a lot of it is is just ability movement. Then you load it with some ways kind of figure out you know what wait is appropriate Depending on the exercise squat jumps stuff like Dab because the impact that I'm having now doesn't compare to the impact face when I'm out there playing running around. It's really interesting because like I. I was listening to a Kimber. What it was It was a pie there. Basically talking about how dame hasn't shot a ball. I know you haven't shot a ball. Imagine most guys haven't been able to get to a hoop so I'm curious like what's the because I know for me for me as a shooter. After a week ten days the that thing started feeling a lot different for you with all the build up muscle memory. How long do you think it'll take you to get back into the groove in terms of your shooting and ball handling like because obviously there will be a certain amount of time it'll take he? It'll take me some time for sure. I think the NBA proposed twenty five day period. You know with some individual workouts Mini training camp. And then you kinda resume play but It usually takes me a few weeks to feel like I'm back to myself in terms of shooting. The ball comes back quick. I can do it. It's just the rhythm thing of of implementing that into actual gameplay but if I went and worked out right now I just be a little rusty for the first few minutes and then like the shots we start going into ball kind of feel normal again usually just takes fifteen minutes into a workout before I feel comfortable but in terms of being able to play a game my time would just be a little off. That would be timing. Would be a little suspect not but not necessarily conditioning. Or it's still close like. I'm still close to my playing weight like I'm close to where I can return like. I'm sure I'm staying close like saying seven to ten days away so if I did. Today's for seven to ten days like basketball workouts. Like I will be good. I'll be able to get back in like look look like I was working out the whole time. But let's just about like what? I- conditioning you're doing at home. In what type of. Diet and you're doing at home and how. Your cat appearing chef has kind of changed up the meals In terms less carbs less cars. More vegetables Smaller portions more meals per day like a lot of that stuff has affected my body and how I changed when I'm not lifting in working the same but when I'm in season obviously how I eat is different because of the amount of energy I'm exerting. Yeah Man I I will say this I I would. I would be very excited or I would be down to do a nice Peleton class with you trying to get you got I have one. Yeah I have one and oh man I like it. I'd be really interested to see how I would compare because because during this time I've been I've been grinding. You've been grinding. I really have been dropped dude. I dropped some some real wait. It's like the quarantine the quarantine Affect your neck neck actually look skinnier from where? I'm sitting here dog. I appreciate that. I say that I am wearing black but I appreciate. That actually leads me to my next question. Is You talked about well? You're going to talk about Myers and some of your favorite teammates later. I I know we're we're GONNA hit on that with with tyler hero but if you had to be quarantined with three teammates who would they be? I say Evan Dame mellow mellow gets the nod I love it. S A unique group. You GotTa like. Everybody brings different attributes to the table. You got laughter. You Got Fun. Everybody has their own funds. You know what I'm saying. That's a factor. That's a factor you by yourself. You're stuck in quarantine you gotta be able to order food. Make Food appear you gotTA figure it out. The eating processes is crucial. But you need to be able to have a good time in terms of laughter and stuff so I think that's a combination but I will have fun with a lot of the guys because everybody's such everybody's everybody's good dudes man. We got a lot of good players In terms of personalities and how they behave so it will be easy to get along with pretty pretty much any combination of those people. What about a a quarantine with coach? Terry that'd be funny back. Though like in chill he'd just be watching. Tv shows. He goes on his walks. He walks a lot They have a dog so he's able to kind of get out the house and do some different things. But I mean I could have said anybody I said d right I could have said Earl Watson will bar. Everybody is cool so like I would. I would have had a good time with. Chris came in any combination of those people would have been would have been cool especially Chris because he's self sufficient. He has his own farm like he knows how to like. Make make this situation last as long as it needs to in terms of being self sufficient. Since he's got that that Central Michigan or Western Michigan Field to him he he does everything right. He he gardens hunts he hydro. It gets a little bit of everything done. He's like the The ultimate Renaissance Man Interesting I got a new book for you. Brought it here. Common pull up guests. Yeah common let love how the last word power through this in about two days. It is great and Communists is one of the best dudes there isn't it's his whole thing is about like love and respect and the book is just an honest. Look into how we can how you can be better. You know a better person better friend. Better sign everything. So that's my that's my book. How about you have. You had a good book. Good really recently Let you measure of a man. This is what I'm reading I'm almost done. Basically storytelling about history but ultimately it just touches on the the perception of what we believe is the ultimate measure of a man like what what success looks like our point of view as a as a man in society and a lot of a lot of it. Personally a person to person deals with how the world views you so like what you do for a living. How much money you make. Which appears think about you and it's basically telling you that that's that's not how we should view success. That's not the perception we have ourselves. It shouldn't matter. What our peers thing. It shouldn't matter what we do for a living here. How much money we make. That shouldn't define who we are as people but it kind of goes into detail about you know different stories. And how a lot of times the downfall of a man is because he's trying to impress his peers and trying to make people think highly of him instead of just living his life..
"jalen greens" Discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast
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"jalen greens" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"Don't even really have to go to class. Because they know that you know. They know what their future is. You Know Kevin. Love has openly said. He's like I guess I was technically accommodate. Ucla but I never went to class. It's like why would you? You know you knew you were going to be a lottery. Big Yeah Yeah. And it's like another thing is i. Don't think this is the death knell of college basketball if people are still going to want to cheer on their modern. There's still like a lot of really good players who need to you. Know who can't develop into prose until they're twenty two twenty three years old like I think I think in some respects call this vassals he better off not having You know be clear. Cut Pros In their system with you know you know but came along with with the FBI investigation and all that not to say that won't continue of course will but Yeah I think you know as someone who does look around five worked in college basketball for plenty years. That's GonNa be just fine. I wouldn't be worried if I was in J. Fan but at the same time. It's good that the top caliber guys can be pros eighteen year old. Don't have to deal with that kind of charade as you say for that is pretty small. Section here Actually the there's a lot more over top in the world and there are Jalen Greens and by that I mean guys who are late blooming guys who you don't start to look like NBA prospects until they're twenty twenty one twenty two years old So we're talking about free. Smoker for people in their rowdy is the NBA. The Geely are going to be discerning about who they give these contracts to They're not yet. Have some three star guy is like hey I wanna I wanNA do this there. I highly doubt the G. League is GONNA say hey. We're going to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in you and one more thing I just. I think the timing of this is interesting in that. Nba is losing tens of millions. Hundreds of millions of dollars potentially over a billion dollars. They don't play any more games this season. There's so many questions about About the corona virus. The fact that they're doing this right now just shows you how serious they are. I mean this is quite a major financial investment at a time when finances are a real concern. Yeah no that's a great point and it. Kinda shows the immediacy of this 'cause like well people think that the twenty to twenty twenty drafts he year where you can country High school like that's not gonNA be your even. Yeah like that could happen but it could also not happen so You know you wanNA cover your basis and Yeah no it is interesting to see the M J KINDA. Go all out with this right now. I mean I. I love someone who works in the G. League don't only GonNa make things You know put more give more exposures for everyone Yeah it's it's really good me like a real like obviously we can't predict any of this stuff and it's like all right cool. It can be a little more hope for next season. There is one all right. Maybe just maybe there's a better chance. Obviously we can't say that we're not helpless but they gave me more hope that there would be next season Someone like Jalen to go bank on there being the G. League season next season as opposed to fly home across the world and moving to Australia. Right so I think that also It was kind of a perfect storm factors but I think that also helped the G. League case is a strong case to see these guys who might have been seriously looking at going overseas So Now it'll it'll be fascinating and the reality is that this is at its core really kind of an academy system so even if they couldn't play the full ten or twelve exhibition slate. They're gonna be able to you. Know hopefully potentially be training with high level professional basketball coaches and getting mentorship from high level professional basketball players. And you know at the at the very least you would think that Scouts will be coming to their practices. And that sort of thing so thanksgiving man I appreciate it. Yeah Yeah thank you. Yeah really enjoyed our thanks to Dan for joining me on the PODCASTS. Always appreciate his inside on the G. League were awkward is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle Support Warriors in the newsroom. That creates it by signing up for chronicle membership s of chronicle dot com slash pot..
"jalen greens" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"Kevin Danna right after the break. Hey Audrey Cooper here editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle and we've ramped up the news coming at you from fifth emission except not the physical that the mission since we're all working at home the fifth and mission. That is our flagship news. Podcast were interviewing anyone with anything to say about the corona virus so that you have the latest information as soon as we know it so check it out the mission wherever you get your podcast. One thing that's interesting is how this whole thing kind of came together Normally when you have A major announcement like this you would you would just you know. Have a big press release. Maybe have a news conference. I know that would be tough given the current state of things. But you could do it on zoom or what have you You would have something to to to to get out in front of it. But what happened was Jalen green announces that he's going to the G. League. He says that he's going to this. This this player at this Pro Pathway thing and when he said it you know I I've written extensively a big feature on Jalen recently. I've spent time with him. I was even confused by what exactly that. Man. I'm thinking. Is he going to a team? Is there is there? Is this something else like I know. I know that there was the pro pathway but the way he's announced it kind of made it sound like he wasn't going to an actual team that exists. Currently so I was confused and then shortly thereafter yes. Pin Drafts a report with full quotes from three from door. Game and other guys. You know that it already reported this detailing the intricacies of the situation so my understanding and this is just an assumption based off the series of the time on events is that G. League decided we need a guy who's GonNa be the face of this guy who can bring excitement to this in legitimize. This jailing green is the perfect player to be that guy because jalen green is one of the best high school prospects in the past decade. He is he's drawn comparisons to Lebron James to Kobe Bryant. I've watched all his highlights. I've spent time with them. I've seen him shoot. Seen him play he is a guy who I honestly think that help an NBA team. Right now And he is to me a sure thing and a lot of these other guys were talking about the cash sodas in the world. I have no idea if they're how if they're ready for even a G. League Environment Jalen Green will if he was playing just in a normal G. League schedule next season would be probably the best player in the G. League. I think he is a future. All Star that type of Guy So he is the perfect person to be the first and I think what happened was they recruited him. He said they said. Hey you gotta be the start of this new thing the face of this exciting new program. We got going and then you know what since we? We want to be as minimal to you as possible. So we'll let you have your little moment. Let you announce this you know on your instagram live. And and and and get it out there before we even released details this and Oh yeah by the way you know how everyone has been saying. We're only paying one hundred twenty five. Yeah we'RE GONNA three five hundred thousand dollars and you can also because you're going to be a real. You can start sending endorsement deals. It's already coming out that he's getting seven figure. Offers Shoe deals so You know how how is an eighteen year old? Can you turn that down? Yeah I mean what he could be. May I know? But that's seven figure shoe deal at three million dollars Messer. No yes and and that was a good point. You bring up house announcing on why he said. I'm doing the new something like I'm joining the new league team for the only thing right when he? Yeah when you check out I'm like wait has like at first. I was like he he's He's got something wrong about this. There is no nothing announce a new team outside of the team in Mexico City right there I hope the God who Jackson and then of course All all the stuff comes out. And I see the shops ron okay. All right that's what you're talking about and then it's like oh there's going to be inserted in California. The first thing I'm thinking about well they used to have this place. Where the Bakersfield Jam Player? They'RE GONNA play they're like Oh then it's in La. I'm like. What are they gonNA play? Where the Lakers old practice facility is like? I'm trying to think about the personalized and all that stuff. And then of course all that goes with windows. Ten to twelve exhibitions potentially. I'm not sure if all those details are official official yet but Yeah stuff's came about like the yeah. It was interesting to kind of get all this information in about forty five minute span. Where like someone like me? I had no idea that all this was Kinda the word I think they did their best to make this. You know exciting to make this year's Eve They tried to keep this a secret. The best they could but obviously this had to have been in the works for a while. I went to Napa three or so weeks ago. It's been an afternoon with Jalen and his parents and his sister and for a bigger than that bigger profile I talked about earlier and You know whenever right talk to him about his decision. He was very reserved. Not Not giving up a lot of details but talking to the people around him It sounded like what I was hearing was. He's probably not seriously considering going overseas. But you know when I when I say these people We'll Jalen said that he's there's the thing about going pro us. And in retrospect I'm really mad at myself for not connecting the dots there But the reason I didn't is because this was not considered a viable thing for players of jalen caliber until now Under the heaviest model. I don't think the G. League would made sense for someone like Jalen And so but but now it's like okay. Well he's not going overseas going pro so I guess you would. Have you know the obvious thing? And he he he He kinda he kinda tried to throw people off the past yesterday. He had a an instagram video. Where he's a big decision. Come in and you had the Memphis hat auburn sweatshirt and then. Nbl shirt not nothing and someone had actually gone back into his his instagram and found a picture of him in his apartment with Geely cat on the on the table and actually went out and circle the hat instead. Someone's photo shopping stuff into my pictures. And then when he made the announcement today he was wearing that hat Yeah I know I was talking with. David Resnick He's less veteran takes products. Asir Guy Friend of mine. He's like I didn't even know they made she leaked faster those you got a collector's item there but You know it was really interesting to see how that all played out any kind of like what you were saying. I mean the Guy Kinda get your back on this like even I who protested the G. League for eight years I but to say there are. I kinda got professional tactics because no one was on it and Oh okay. I guess this didn't work. Maybe it will work in the future like I literally think about it for for a good. Wow because if it wasn't us and so I think a lot of people could be forgiven for like not really thinking about that seelig often all that seriously L. WanNa take it out there for quite high. Yeah and you know I think that that had to be disappointing for the G. League and for for the NBA. And you know as a top league in in the world. That's not even debatable. And I think there was a little bit of embarrassment. When RJ Hampton Lamelo Ball went to Australia and and you know everyone's streaming their games online. That got a ton of attention. I'm sure out. Silver was privately steaming thinking it makes literally no sense that someone would need to go across the world to do this when we should have every thing in our disposal to create that opportunity for them stateside and you know spent eighteen year olds you know. Generally speaking they. They want to do with what they're comfortable with. And I'm sure the average eighteen year old between going down to La and and getting a nice apartment or House with their family for for a year As opposed to going to Australia or country where they don't speak English. I'm sure they'd much rather go. Yeah exactly and forgiven Greenwood. Was that a two three hour time. Fresno where he's originally from so yeah I mean it's even Even more convenient for for a guy like Jalen Green and from an NBA perspective. And this is one thing that I've been saying for a while. And then you know as you lead players tried to get higher salaries and there has been progress in that with The the salaries to thirty five thousand dollars. And hopefully that's an he needs to know if you're the MTA the bachelor world she wants to have all the best assets under your umbrella and so what. What's the way to do that? Is You know one thing is to raise the pay. Puff that up to five hundred thousand dollars for for the professional pass for this new team for the school guys in and Yeah you want to have the best prospects. Possible the best you know. That's not gonNA be Declared Street wants to help for them under your belt. Many of them as possible is so today was definitely a big step in the right direction. And I'll be honest with you. I'm I'm happy about this because I feel like Hollywood sports college basketball in particular has become such a mockery It's such a Sam. I mean you have especially with these one and done guys you have these these five star guys now a Lotta them as as has been reported now as FBI. Investigation revealed are getting money under the table and from different back channels. And you know what to go to school for a semester. You as you know being in college you can. You can fail. You can literally not go to class and also master and you can still survive that semester in fail out and then just move on and go prepare for the NBA. So the entire entire ideas these one and done has really in a lot of instances become a charade and it gets to a point where it's like if we're if we're just going to if we're gonNA just let's stop pretending that these guys are student athletes and let's call it what it is if you. WanNa go if your goal is to be in the NBA and you've proven and showing that you have the potential to do that can just go pursue in. Do in let's not let's not let's not playing games here you know and so. I I respect someone like Jalen coming out and saying I want to be a pro and I'm I want to do what's best for me and and I'm not gonNA pretend like I I wanna be going to classroom. I mean if I had to do the exact same thing. Yeah Yeah I hear people say oh. You can't put a price on the college experience. Well it's like well you're you're not gonNA make a million dollars is a twenty year old or whatever like you need to go to college. I. It's like college experience. I mean these guys are literally there for a semester. You know they. It's.
"jalen greens" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"Nba Professional Pathway Program. That's partnering with the G. League. During our conversation we went in depth. On how this program could change draft evaluation for that matter college recruiting as we know. Kevin. Thank you so much for joining me on the PODCAST As you know as our listeners know at this point you're my Go-to guy for everything. G leak and the G. League is come up quite a lot. This season The warriors lead very heavily on Santa Cruz. A lot of pertinent storylines going on down there and today there was G. League related news. That could have a massive impact on not only the NBA. Not only the G. League but recruiting in general NC double a. Other Professional Leagues Overseas Kevin what when you heard that. Jalen green the top her crew in the twenty twenty class projected number one pick and the twenty twenty one drafts. We're GONNA go to the G. League enjoying this new player development program through the G. League. What were your initial thoughts? The phrase Kinda came to me initially was. It's a monumental moment for this week now. Kind of last year rebellious seat said he was GonNa go play in the of course. Step that internship with like a million dollars. I believe in the hotel for him in personnel to with Oklahoma City. But this is kind of fun. Tears that G Week. I think was hoping to cross the news. Juicer that was really kinda legitimize. It is people who don't work. Let's you and I think people recognize its value in order to kind of legitimize to the public's things I think need to happen. One of them was j all Stars. Doing Rehab assignment. Injury Games nachos practice was very proud. Steam with Golden Sakes definitely. Santa Cruz is the next step would be for that. All starts playing a game and then the other one was get these five star top five ish crew out of high school to play in. Cuba for a season I was going to get. That was Bazeley last year. Reseda and green this year and now they're reports with US guys. Ahah taught his name as you might be part of this then. There's other names that those things could be part of this news nearly this new G. League affiliated team kind of not exactly a G. League team for salesforce for a title but It's its own. It might not change. They live for Jiri players and coaches. Who aren't affiliated with this exposure. That can get as a result. I mean it's there to serve and this is a seuss. Things kind of better develop process or further ten days mission statement of developing young talent losers. I Give Adam Silver Truth. Guru Sri who's Busy the president. Did she leave? He's the yeah. The president's really former CAL guy A lot of credit for how they went about this because They they basically saw that there was a need and they needed to fix it You know the fact that guys like Lamelo Ball and RJ Hampton. Were traveling all the way across the world to play in the Australian League for one season before going to the NBA. Just doesn't really reflect well on the developmental system that the NBA was trying to build in the G. League. And and I think the problem was even though they have good intentions last year when they initially unveiled this pro pathway And I think that you know there was a good idea there with this guy's making one hundred twenty five thousand dollars and things like that. I think they realized pretty quickly that they needed to do. Much more to entice these high level guys because these guys have a lot of options they could They could go to one of many different professional leagues overseas. They could go to the Blue Book. Blood College programs or they could just sit at home and sign endorsement deals and and wait until drafty and those are all honestly viable options for for someone like that and I think the problem with the last model of this pathway was that you know there were a the money probably wasn't good enough one hundred twenty five is not near. We'll guys were getting paid in Australia and some other overseas leagues. The other thing is that I think there were a lot of concerns from these players and their families about being thrown into some random. You know small market small town type team where you're living on your own and say Sioux Falls South Dakota or Or Stockton California or something like that. And you're you're forced to be an adult right away and go up against high level basketball players who might not have the greatest reputation because they're not in the NBA. But you and I both know having been around this league that a lot of these guys who are in the G. League or guys who just as good as you know a quarter of the guys currently in the NBA. So if they're not if they're not holding their own against these guys physically. Maybe they're not ready. I think a lot of Outsiders might look at that and think it reflects really poorly or they're not live up to the hype given just the reputation of the G. League so I think there were. There were a lot of understandable trepidation and that's ultimately why Bazeley backed out into Paul his agent Convinced him not to go forward with that plan. So I give I give Sirri Fedora. Hime and Adam Silvera a ton of credit and looking at what do these guys want? And what do we need to do to make this a viable option? Yeah No I. I agree with that assessment. One hundred percent because yeah. It's one thing you know playing playing against you know top five recruits from Kentucky. Who could project to be very good players or they could project to be is a play two to three years in the NBA and then playing against say like a thirty three zero point guard. Jeremy Cargo who we know has NBA level down these Chaudhry Golden State this year. There's a spot full time for him. Going up against a guy like that who was in his prime. Just a little bit task describes. Who's playing at a very high rebel? I mean those kind of guys. Those veteran guard soon veteran players could expose eighteen to nineteen year old so I think yeah. I think how they have kind of set. This up is well. Maybe it's not like Helix leksand's perspective for for those who do you follow the G. League Rather regularly like all right probably wish you could see them. Play Fifty Games a season again and be like monitoring for like a local market but it doesn't necessarily make sense. These high school kids to do it like that for the reasons you mentioned so I was reading some. Espn article looks like maybe ten. To Twelve Game Attrition Thousands League team and you play against the International Academies or other national team from from what I read I I. I think that's a really nice setup for these guys and do something a little bit different to make sure that you're getting these guys here in the first place the money I know they're i. I read one report that Sam. Mitchell is a candidate to be a coach for for this team. I mean we'll see if that happened but still like a coach like that entering the eighteen nineteen year old. It makes them with veterans and I. I think it's a great setup For the top high school process are GONNA be one year out of the secondary. Yeah there's still a lot of questions. But if let's say they can get five six high level recruits Put Him on this team. Jalen which seems realistic given The top level guys who have yet to commit anywhere Guys like High Soto On makers younger brother you know these are guys who would make a Lotta sense. Obviously todd that you mentioned earlier would make a lot of sense to go this route if you can put those guys on the team. Jalen and then round out that roster with kind of the Jeremy Part of the world with those guys who are well aware that you know. They're in being ambitions are probably over but they have some NBA experience and they have some high level Extended professional experience. Those guys can come in and mentor. You know these these future potential stars in the NBA on a daily basis to me. That sounds like an amazing opportunity for everyone involved. I know talking to someone like Jeremy. He seems like the type of guy that would really enjoy that type of opportunity. You know to cause a lot of these guys who been through the ups and downs. They WANNA get back. You know they wanna they wanNA help bring along that next generation. I think a lot of these guys would be really Excited about that kind of opportunity. And there's also those guys out there who maybe know still feel like they want an opportunity in the NBA or want some bigger professional opportunities and there's going to be so many scouts and so much attention on this team. You know not only. Are they going to be at every game or exhibition that that this team plays? But I'm sure there's GonNa be open practices and a Lotta things like that and so you know this is GonNa be Assad after team in a lot of ways and from what we're hearing is probably going to be based on La we've seen his not Hidalgo Texas. It's not Stockton it's not too old. It's not Irri Pennsylvania so To me this if I'm someone like lingering if I'm someone like cassette or a five star guy with definite lottery potential there is minimal downside to this past. I mean I know it's new and and so there's always some risk involved with anything that's new but three of our team and silver. I've done such a good job of eliminating every concern. These guys could possibly have. Yeah that's a good point. I the the one thing I answered. Now we're talking about how it deposits for veterans. Who WOULD BE HONEST? I am curious as to like the hypotheticals that is attracted to US offer of we end up playing with Jalen Greens and So saying makers potentially world is. Is it going to be a guy like Jeremy Parker who was thirty three and you know thinking about a potentially your wife after basketball coach or something? Is it going to be twenty four twenty five year old guys who are looking for their first shot in the NBA has their best arts? Twenty six twenty seven year old guys to move past years experience? They see it as a as route back to the NBA. And I'm like how much veterans with get paid. 'cause all right they're saying five hundred thousand dollars for these eighteen nineteen year old kids. Now you're GonNa have a you know a thirty year old or twenty six year old seeking standard Jewish contract thirty five thousand dollars without an MBA. Ason I I think that's part is GonNa be really wants us to see how that plays out because you out there aren't going to be a lot of is on their games that they're gonNA be playing sooner games and so. I think that's an interesting straight off that betters. We'll have to live. Yeah you bring up a really interesting point but you know one of the things that I definitely thought about when you know. They initially announced this pro pathway last year and obviously didn't get really much. Traction was just the locker room dynamics and the G. League the just delete environment is a fascinating environment It's part of why I love writing about it. there's so many Different personalities people who have different types of stories and a lot of a lot of guys you know in the G. League or are striving to make it to the NBA and that can mean that they want. They want shots. They want minutes. You know and I think that's the hardest part about being a coach and the G. League is learning. How is figuring out how to have.
"jalen greens" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"League that it has to change the very fundamentals of its league and that's fine by the way evolved change. Get better whatever you gotta do. But this idea that we're gonNA okay. Here's what we'll do. We'll take however many we can get if it's too if it's four. Hey maybe if it's ten really good high school prospects. They're going to be on their own team. They're going to be based in southern California. We're going to give them access to educational training everything they could want. You know this is going to be their their year abroad if you will pick a prep a prep year to the the utmost value in degree. That's awesome okay. And then what they're gonNA do is we're GonNa make stars of them. Have them go and play in unconventional schedule? They're not gonNA play a typical G. League schedules not going to be a typical G. League team. And maybe because of the very nature of that in this era of when you can produce highlights that shared on Social Youtube Tick Tock Snapshot. The whole thing. Maybe that's why we're GONNA be able to bring interest to this and maybe there will be a little bit of that. Gp But it's still not GonNa come close to what college the players themselves while entitled and should be entitled to earning potential. It's still not going to be close to the exposure. You get at the college level now. I will say this is another example of how and this is to come soon. Oh by the way as we try and keep track of everything on a daily basis amid this covert nineteen pandemic and it's working group with the name image and likeness is going to be putting forth a package. That apparently is drawing optimism for how ambitious it might be you and I both know we got to see it before we get there but if anything else this is just the latest to say you know if college basketball wants to remain a sturdy as possible and bringing the best players possible and retain them for guys that are fringe picks to begin with. This is another reason why you need to get this kind of legislation on the books to allow it to happen immediately and one more thing parachute and we gotta type podcast and we gotta squeeze a bunch and a little bit of time here. I also want to see if this is straight up feasible for the G. League going forward. Who even there's already again. Preliminary but based in science in at least trying to keep our feet on the ground there are some that work at local government levels particularly in California where they don't think that having any kind of normal sports schedules happening deep deep into two thousand twenty one and I mean with fans in attendance so with all of that. How doable is this? Going to be again return on investment. How much money is the NBA? Going to be willing to basically lose by fronting the G. League and upping it salaries and how is that going to impact the guys that are twenty four that went to college. Twenty six twenty. Seven trying to make a roster. It's not a huge concern. But you've already got guys now. That are probably going to be a little bit twisted by this To say Oh okay. So a bunch of eighteen year old. You're GONNA bring into the League. You're gonNA treat them special. Am I gonNA stay on this one hundred ten thousand dollars salary that that I've got going on and win? Can they even play games? They're going to be with their families. Talking about twenty six twenty year old guys who are married to have a kid or two There's a lot of I think. Logistical stuff still remains to be seen here but Jalen Green. The point is the first player ranked in a top three. A top five since Brandon Jennings in. Oh eight to decide. I'm not going to go to college instead. I'm going to go a different route in for that if nothing else. Despite all the details we talked about that is a notable headline making kind of thing in terms of the return on the investment. I think it's largely unimportant. You know a few hundred thousand dollars to get a few prospects to come. Be a part of this academy for lack of a better word. It really is pennies like the worst guy on any NBA. Roster is making that kind of money. So if you know you're you're not doing this strictly to keep players out of college basketball. You're keeping them out of Australia. You WanNa keep them in the United States so as a league. Let's say you pay five hundred thousand dollars to Jalen Green. You get him in. What by all accounts looks like the A well run controlled setting not a typical G. League schedule. Like you pointed out. So he's not at a normal risk of being exposed by older more mature physically mature players. You're getting him in life skills programs. You are putting him around professionals. You know the way. The announcement is made is that he will be on a team with yes other elite prospects. Isaiah todd being one but also older professional players. Well they're going to hand pick those guys and they're going to be nothing but total pros like people who a train. The white right way worked the right way do the right things so you surrounding them with good people and now you're saving every front office in the NBA. The time the trouble and the expenses of going to Australia I think in that regard. It's IT'S MONEY IT'S MONEY. Well spent the question becomes. Is this a good idea for the Jalen? Greens because okay. Five hundred thousand dollars. You make real money undeniably But how much is you really thought you were on attract to be a college star How much is that worth? Probably worth more than five hundred thousand dollars kettle. Yea Kevin Durant coming out of Texas as the National Player of the year was worth way more in terms of endorsements and shoe deals and all that stuff then had he just been a skinny kid who had disappeared for a year. Because the idea that you're going to put these players in the G. League and then you're GonNa to have exhibitions and like people are going to feel just not true. People aren't going to go watch this stuff anymore than they go. Watch the best. Baseball prospects play Minor League Baseball when the NBA was locked out back in late. Two Thousand Eleven Rudy. Gay had a exhibition game here in the Memphis area. Lebron James was there Kevin. Durant was there. It drew like six thousand people without the structure of the teams. That people care about people aren't really that into just watching folks play basketball with no stakes. That they care about so college basketball is still going to be the thing that you know puts eighteen thousand people in an arena the NBA is still going to be the thing just taking great prospects and putting them on a team that nobody cares about. It's not gonNA draw thousands and thousands of people. It's not gonNA DRAW MASS OF TELEVISION AUDIENCES. So you're not going to be this well-known on billboards star coming out of this G. League Academy whereas if you went to Memphis if you're jalen green or Oregon or Auburn you've got the chance. If you're legitimately the star you you are. You got a chance to enter the League as an as an actual star somebody. They put on billboards and sell tickets. With how much is that worth? Probably more than five hundred thousand dollars so I think something that has has to be considered if you are this type of prospect. I'll never criticize anybody for doing it. You know these guys probably shouldn't be in school no matter what they're not gonna be math teachers or CPA's or lawyers they're gonNA be basketball players. Why not just get on with your basketball career? I understand it but the idea that they're picking between five hundred thousand dollars in the G. League or nothing in college. That's not a very good way to describe what these players are choosing between. Yeah I would agree with that a bit of a false dichotomy there. The last thing for me here is that Jalen Green Todd. We'll see if any others This year next. Choose to join him in how well they do. Just keep in mind You know we have a relatively small sample size of players who were considered top fifty prospects to have who have avoided college either played overseas or try the G. League The in general but like Darius Bazeley didn't even do it. After initially saying he would after decommissioning from Syracuse and then like Brandon Jennings worked out pretty well for him Emmanuel Moody. Okay Terrance Ferguson. Mitchell Robinson Anthony Simon's. Just KEEP IN MIND. You know there's no guarantee of this and if we get to a spot three years from now where. The age minimum hasn't changed. You've had ten guys do this and it's made almost no dent. We'll wait and see it's creative. I GIVE I give Silver Julia. Lot of credit for for being creative with this given us something damn interesting to talk about. But this is I think you hit a on an important point. This is as much about competing with the NBL with the G. League. Oh by the way is considered to be a more competitive league and and keeping prospects home in the states for a number of reasons but I will be interested to see what. Jalen green does whenever he plays. But we don't win. That is and how often were even going to see him and SAS. Todd remains to be seen whereas if and when we have a college basketball season next next season we already know that the prospects that are going to be flirting with with draft status. We're going to have the opportunities to watch them literally. Twenty five thirty thirty five times as long as the season goes off a scheduled one last point and I do think it's. It's more sensible today than it seemed three days ago when the reports were just jalen. Green is going to play in the G. League. It's not a normal G. League situation. That makes this more sensible that said on a limited basis he will still be competing against grown men former college stars and that does run the risk of getting him exposed or at the very least looking something less than the way he would look if he was actually just dominating other college basketball players. I think he'll be fine. I think you'll still be a top five. Pick no matter what but if this does cost him a draft slot. It cost him more money than he made. I mean one spot. I described earlier as a consensus top to pick in the draft. Top to the number two. Pick of the two thousand twenty. One draft based on the rookie scale is guaranteed a two year contract with seventeen point one million. If that cost him one spot he goes plays against men. Doesn't somebody sees something they don't like or more likely. Somebody in college just blows up in college like John Rant. Then he becomes. They say slips to the number three pick. Well that's two years fifteen point three million. You just lost one point eight million. If you slip from.