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Leafs land Jake Muzzin

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Leafs land Jake Muzzin

"The lease. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don league-record and welcome to the Tuesday edition of game is conduct. I am the Greg. Let's get right to it. Major trade the NHL last night Muhsin goes from Los Angeles to the Maple Leafs. And we've talked about it plenty of times drop the wants to make a serious run at a Stanley Cup. They had to improve their defense more. Specifically, a stay at home defenceman. We'll Muslim comes in. It's got twenty one points on the season. He's not slouches far as offenses concern, you know, play on top pairing with Riley. So there's a lot of production that that defensive units gonna give you, but they've gotta find somebody outside of Ron Hansie who's thirty seven years old that could be a guy that could stand up forwards at the blue line that can go after the best forward on the other team, matchup wise. I mean, they were gonna lose every match of Toronto in the playoffs. It gets really good team because they didn't have anybody to go up against you know, the top line for Boston team. They're likely going to play in the first round. How do you stop Sidney Crosby of getting Malik? And how do you stop Alexander Ovechkin and nNcholas Backstrom? How do you stop stamkos and kucherov? If you wanna make run to the Stanley Cup final. So I'm not saying that Muhsin cures all ills. But it makes a lot of sense now first round pick and some prospects. That's pretty juicy but Muslims under contract through next year. It's a management deal as far as the cap is concerned a four point six million dollars. And I'm sure the Toronto will consider after the nineteen twenty season. Whether they want to bring. Him back. We'll see where the calorie salary cap structure is going to be and what ends up happening with some of their free agents. But it's not like, it's a rental. You have them for a run this year and next year and may have the wherewithal to keep him around Muslim. Of course was part of to Stanley Cup championships with the Los Angeles Kings. So he's been there. He's done that. These are the types of moves teams have to make now on the surface. When you think about defense been that I want to make a run I'm not sure Jake Muhsin was on like the top list of fans out there who said that's going to be the difference between winning Stanley Cup or not. But certainly he had been on the radar of many general managers around the league Toronto makes the move. And now they've improved themselves with the acquisition of Taveras during the off season which bolstered their offense big time and has allowed them to fight through some of the injuries. They've had with Matthews with the holdout of Neil Lander. And now they get themselves study defenseman the acquisition of Hanes. He was also a good one last year. So you sprinkle in the offense with sites with Riley with Gardner, and now you've got. To stay at home guys. But Muslim as I said could produce some offense in any given year this guy that can give you forty fifty points on on Toronto. This is a guy that can be a stay at home defenseman that could score north of fifty points on this team. So I think the acquisition was good. We've seen in recent years that the trade deadline is just a mere suggestion that it seems like a lot of deals get done way before the deadline. So even before we get into February. We're seeing these deals get done so slightly under a month before the deadline Toronto, they sound the bell. I and now we'll see who else. Decides to follow will Boston trying to make a move now to try to keep up with Toronto to try to get that home ice advantage in the first round who else in the Eastern Conference is gonna make a deal. What's Pittsburgh going to do another loss for the penguins last night? They cannot beat the devils on a bet six Owen one New Jersey against Pittsburgh over the last couple of years, including all three meetings this year being devil wins. So just it's crazy that the devils a team. That listen last year. I guess it makes sense because they were a playoff team. But the doubles do not look like a playoff team this year and still own a playoff team. But this Pittsburgh think about making move to solidify a plow spot. What is Washington do as they seem to be in free fall? Now be not being able to a find a way to win especially with the Washington Capitals. Starting their second half of the season coming up later when they come out of there by a against the Calgary Flames and that'll be coming up on Friday without Alexander Ovechkin who's going to serve the one game suspension for not going to the all star game. They've been in free fall with a six straight losses. So these Eastern Conference teams they're kind of old jockeying for position because I think really buffalo and Carolina only the realistic teams outside looking in that could make a move but jockeying for position is important having home ice advantage. Trying to win your division making sure you're one of those top three positions, especially if you're a metropolitan team trying to avoid having to take on the Tampa Bay Lightning. A so there's a lot of things in there. You don't wanna fall to the wildcard? Play Tampa in the first round where you can play them in the conference final if you end up in that top three spot metropolitan division. So even though these teams know they're going to the playoffs like Toronto they wanted to make sure that they have an easier path once they get there looks like they're destined play Boston a team that's kind of had their number. So Toronto makes the first move. We'll see who makes the next move. I have a feeling you're going to see a lot of moves between now and the twenty fifth the by the time we get to the actual trading deadline. There's not going to be that many moves to make. So we get the unofficial second half of the season underway. We mentioned the devils with a win over the penguins. Six to three I'd love to get somebody to explain to me how the devils can have bits Burg's number. But they seem to big shorthanded goal by Boyle and the devils get off the fast art, get taking a four one lead and eventually winning six to three the flyers with a nice win as well. Three to one at home against the Winnipeg Jets, so Carter heart makes thirty one saves in the victory and Kentucky continues to be good with a goal and an assist in the victory. Roz levick. It's the only tally for the Winnipeg Jets his third goal of the season. So it looks like and it's been made official by Philadelphia. That Carter heart is going to stay with the organization, even though he was kind of forced into play here because they've you seven different goaltenders in Philadelphia. We thought it was crazy last year when Vegas had six Philadelphia's. Now, you seven so heart's gonna stay up. He's the future of this organization and continues to win games Philadelphia over wall as won four straight games. And you take a look at where they are in the standings again, forty six points their twelve points back Pittsburgh for the final wildcard spot. And they're also thirteen points back that third place bond, the metropolitan division. So none of this is going to bear fruit for Philadelphia. But if heart continues to play, well, they'll eventually trade Wayne Simmons, you gotta figure, but with some very talented players already locked in to contracts defensive core that is growing into its own. I think Philadelphia has a nice future. I know you want to try to get the top. And tank that's always a fan type of conversation, but I see value Philadelphia. Plain out these games here to give some of the fans in Philly chance to really get a preview of what this team can be and playing while in the second half of the season. I think's gonna be important. So when a plague Winnipeg will play the second back tobaks, they'll be in Boston tonight to take on the Bruins Bruins, of course. Coming off their bye as well. Their last game was way back earlier in the month when they lost to the Rangers that Saturday night at home sabres, they still have a chance to make the playoffs tough task that they're going to take on the Columbus. Blue jackets trying to make sure they could keep pace with the islanders for first place in the metro and the flyers and the Rangers Rangers kind of the same boat. It's Philadelphia doesn't look like it's going to happen this year. But the Rangers have won three in a row winnable game tonight with Philadelphia behind them in standings, second back to back for Philadelphia Rangers take on the New Jersey Devils coming up Thursday, and then a huge test on Saturday at home against the best team in the league the Tampa Bay Lightning but winning three in a row before the break Rangers playing a little bit better. Duke has been good, obviously, savannah Janet it's been good Rangers going to play with seven defensemen tonight because Pablo butchnevich has been benched as coach Quinn said he just didn't like the way he was playing a going into the break. So the Rangers for maybe the third or fourth time this year will go light at the forward position this time by choice. So Smith will be back in the lineup for the blue shirts as they try to make it four in a row. And again, even if it's just 'cause medically trying to show the fans what next year could be like zoo continues to play while certainly he'll be an ill be in a position where he can win some games for this organization. But also be trading piece. Same thing with Kevin Hayes as well as Kevin Hayes had not played the previous nine games going into the break because of the upper body injury. You know, the feeling is is that he's got a chance to get a little healthier here. And then once he does prove that he's healthy that he is going to be able to hit the ground running. And and be a trade bait for the Rangers. He is going to be in the lineup tonight. He is going to center the second line between VC and Houten. So the Rangers line are gonna be like this, of course, Zabana Jad and Kreider in cough, who's playing well in the first half of the season will now be on the top line Hayes between VC and how strong who's played well between heated and fast, and then it'll be McLeod, and and and Boonie EVA's rounding out the bottom part as the foot infection for Mazzarella was going to keep him out. So that's a bit of a problem as far as the tradings concern. Although he was red hot doesn't look like the foot infection is serious clayson still has the shoulder injury. So those are the banged up situation for the New York Rangers as they look for their foreign row and Philadelphia looking for their sixth in a row house here from you at down the Greco hashtag game has conduct on L says what up Don love your show. My question is how did you like the all star game this past weekend? Did you think San Jose did a good job? And the glowing puck reminded me of what they did when the NHL was on FOX back in the nineties. Do you think it's good or bad for the? NHL we talked about this a little bit for EJ with EJ. I like it's tone down a little bit. I do like the trailer for the puck because sometimes it can tell you. Whether we're going off the post or the was saved by the goaltender sometimes trying to figure out where the puck is watching on television. It's been a bit of a problem. I thought FOX's was over the top. But that was twenty something years ago, and obviously back then the technology wasn't the same. So I do think there's some value to the glowing pock you don't lose it in certain areas that some of the angles it's behind the board. You can't see it. Or if the pucks underneath the goaltender where where it is in the the soup of bodies between the crease in the slot and in front of the goaltender. I just thought. Fox's was over the top as far as San Jose. We talked to EJ they did terrific job at thought the three on three was great. My only complaint is considering that it was played in the Pacific that the Pacific Division should went second. So you didn't have that awkwardness of those three shark players in Pevez sqi and burns. Not playing in the second game and then being gone right away. And in two games being played without all the sharks in the lineup. So I didn't like that. At all, Chris. Hey, Don, another impressive win for Carter heart last night. How much of his and the team's recent success is due to the pressure being off since they all but out of the playoff contention and the opposition overlooking them or is the team finally putting it together islander the opposition's. Overlooking them I mean, maybe you can make that case for Winnipeg. But I think going into Philadelphia's always kind of got people on guard because the history of it, and and I mentioned before Philadelphia may be struggling, but you still have Cluj through one of the best players in the league Fletcher said one of the best players in the history of the flyers organization. I wouldn't go that far. But he did say it, you know, and they've got nice players. You've got to be leery of. So I don't I don't think we should take away the win because of that factor. I do think that there's some pressure being added by Fletcher saying that they're really no untouchables on the team. So a lot of the players are. Playing knowing that they may be acquired by other organizations. So I don't believe that. There's no pressure in Philadelphia. It is sometimes a little easier to play when it's four something personal rather than for the ultimate team goal of making the playoffs. But only anybody in that room is counting themselves out. Just yet. It's not even February. So I think there is a lot of value to Philadelphia's doing and congratulations to the way that they're playing. We'll see if they can keep it up. David Hynes says as a former devil fan, which uniform color scheme, you prefer the old red and green look or the current red and black. Well, unfortunately, the the green uniforms got dub Christmas trees, and you look back at them. And it's kind of an eyesore liked them at the time. But I do like the addition of black, and I'm not a big fan of of adding black to the jerseys the way all these teams do, but considering the devils have pretty much all of their success with those jerseys. And I think they do look a lot sharper than the Christmas tree jerseys. Although I do like the throwbacks when they do play them. It's very nostalgic, but I wouldn't want to see them. Go back to it full-time. Mark says are there are rumors that is looking to make a deadline deal for the islanders. What what have you heard? And what do you think he might do? Well, he'll do anything if he feels that this team can make a legitimate Ron now, I haven't heard any names specifically. But I believe they're going to be a buyer rather than a seller. Lou when he feels like he's got a good team. Why wouldn't you feel like he's got a good thing there in first place as we start play on January twenty ninth and they'll be in first place tomorrow because nobody's going to catch them with a three point bulge in one day. Is the fact that he sees an opportunity for this team to make a run. I think it's there. I don't think there's anybody. They can't beat Tampa. I would say probably not but everybody else in that given series. I give them a legitimate shot. The way they're playing away Barzel is playing away leaves playing and more importantly the way the goaltending has been and this team hasn't been out of the first round. But once in the lab. Twenty five years when they made that run to the conference final ninety three, you know, opening a new building soon trying to steal some attention. When it looks like the Rangers and devils are not gonna make the playoffs. If the islanders can have that stage by themselves for a month as their winning two series Lucy's value in that. And if you get to the conference final heck, why not Vasa left ski, Mike it hurt. Stamkos may get hurt. Kucherov might get hurt. Who knows we talked about Tampa Bay and the best team in the league? There's no guarantee they go to the conference final. So I do I think the islanders winning a Stanley Cup is presently constituted. No. But do I think they can make a run. Absolutely. And if you look at Louis history, New Jersey when he believes the team you can make it run. He goes for it. I mean, he went out and got the Gilmore he went out and got Dave Andrew Chucky went on got Alexander Mogilny, you know, sometimes it works. Sometimes it didn't. But loo I think it's an unfair Rapa being conservative because he doesn't throw a lot of money around, but he can be very aggressive at the trading deadline. And I think the honors will make a deal, and I don't think they're gonna be scared off, you know, to to sell off ever leave. Because he's a free agent. If they believe he can help them in the Rondo keep them, and he'll run the risk of losing them. So I do think that they're gonna make a play ranger proud says should the Rangers. Invest and trade for Panara. And I say no because I think there's an excellent chance to get him in free agency. This is very similar to the shattenkirk situation. When the Rangers were a lot better. They could have got shattenkirk on a rental and then sign him full-time after the season or long-term they decided they did not want to lose the first round pick and waited and they ended up getting shattenkirk. I think they're going to do the same with Pinera. They know they're going to be a front runner for him. He's not going to be able to help them this year unless the Rangers go on a huge run and think they can make the playoffs. But as of right now that does not look like it's going to happen. So I think you probably wait Victor says which is more important leaves go for d with the trade of Muhsin or Panara and basically saying he's gone after the year, we should mention that penins agent, basically said no more conversations with the blue jackets. This guy is going to test free agency. So he's gone. I'm not sure the Columbus is still going to trade him because Columbus sits in a position where they can make a run Columbus probably thinking we can finish the top three spots avoid Tampa till the conference final. That's a team. That's never even been out of the first round in franchise history. So I'm not sure the Columbus is gonna trade Panara. And if they do a less your one hundred percent, sure, you're signing a long term. I'm not giving a ton forum now Toronto Chicago, the Rangers all teams that I think Panara will land, but he can't go at all of them. So Toronto is not guaranteed to get him. If they think they can make a run with him than I think they will try to make that run. If they want him long-term, they may wait and sign him in the off season. But be careful how much money do you think you can pay these players Matthews mourner kneeland or you just gave a big deal to? All right. You've got a lot of money that you're going to be allocating to young players negative bring Pinera knee, and he's going to demand a lot of money. Now, they've got room under the cap now. But I got to think about. The future and some of the players that they have a pucks in pug says just listen to Monday's podcast. What would you do in a game with the Sebastian Aho's? Great question, of course to Sebastian Aho's one was playing defense for the your calendars. And of course, one's a star on all star for the Columbus for the Carolina Hurricanes. That's a great question. I would I think you'd have to you have to acknowledge the team the islanders Sebastian Aho takes it up or since you're saying islanders hurricanes. The hurricanes auto the islanders Ohio that would be the way to do it. But boy, would that be a very very difficult thing to have to deal with Christina says just to put my two cents in about the kings being picked to play Colorado in the outdoor game. The two teams had a good Rava replaying many years in Vegas for pre-seasons frozen. Fury should be fun that somebody else had mentioned that. I didn't read the tree twit Christina's. So I'm gonna give you the opportunity here that they did play. I think it was up until twenty sixteen that they did that. So there's odd. Always a reason. See we all think we were smarter than the average. Right. But when a league invests as much money. As much time and actually pay people oughta money to make those types of decisions. They usually have some information or inside dope. The we don't have. So or that we have but we chose to ignore and instead of Christine Oliver who nailed and some of the other people on Twitter the did the same. No question to me that that's a major reason why they're playing in the stadium series. And and I also looked at the stadium series is being more of a local thing than a national thing. And the reason I say that is because and this was an idea had for a long time. And maybe they heard me say and on NHL live back in the day. And they stole the idea is that there are certain teams that are never gonna play ever gonna play in the winter classic, right? But if you created a series in which you can play where it's more on the local side that may be that would give opportunities to teams like the Colorado Avalanche like a team like the Carolina Hurricanes or or the New Jersey Devils, the New York Islanders to get a chance to play outside. So the stadium series was just like that the couple of games the Yankee Stadium back in twenty four. Eighteen gave the islanders devils the chance to play outside. We saw the kings and the ducks play Dodger Stadium a few years ago. Many of the debt gives two teams that never played in winter classic. And may never get a chance to play in the winter classic a chance to play outside at least they've expanded their horizons a little bit for next year's winter classic with Dallas in Nashville playing each other publicity you ever see a scenario in which the hurricanes would play of the Columbus. Blue jackets would play in winter classic probably not but in a stadium series. Then I think there's a very good chance of it happening. So I don't get too caught up who plays in the stadium series as much as I do the winter classic. But a great job to see that they've expanded their horizons of the winter classic. Let's close it out with Troy says if the Los Angeles Kings were to move quick I could see him making a difference in Columbus. Of course. Columbus would have to move Broschi, but quick has been solid in the playoffs and Tortorella coached him before in the World Cup while a couple of things at play here. Quick has been banged up. So I'm not sure if on the blue jackets, I'm going to have faith the quick. Is going to stay healthy. So you're right. He's won a couple of cups. Something is not done because Borowski had his problems in the postseason. If you could tell me quick is healthy. I think that would make the Columbus blue jackets, maybe not necessarily better in the regular season. But I have more faith with them in the postseason. My problem is he's had to lower body injuries. Over the last year. Am I comfortable to know that he will be able to stay healthy for me? So that's something. I'd have to file away. And think about a lot of fun today. We got a couple of games to recap coming up tomorrow. So if you've got any questions or comments at download Graca, hashtag Amos conduct could the app hockey's back. It's good to get this come games back onto the board. It'd be better a little bit later on the week when we finally get see more than just two or three games on the schedule. So lots to do tomorrow at download brecca hashtag game has conduct. This was the Tuesday edition of game has Gonda. Listening to gain misconduct podcast looking for more dumb. 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Taking Justin Bieber To School

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Taking Justin Bieber To School

"Surrogacy we've got to get the dog bark in the podcast. What's your dog's name? Abby is making her debut on the Pod John McDonough out question marks around the Chicago Blackhawks or starting with a very serious hockey tone to the podcast. This week. Elliott this one. I think it was a shocker. To just about everybody. Are you in that camp absolutely? I don't think that anybody saw this coming. Especially since about a month ago Rocky words in an article with the athletic had given everybody their vote of confidence. And you know I think it's one of those stories where right now as we tape this. It's still not even twenty four hours since it was announced so a lot of the conversations. I'm having about start with a question I'd like to ask is what don't I know here. And we record it right now. I think the answer is a lot one of the things that people are beginning to. Speculate is that maybe rocky wirtz took a real cold hard look at the Blackhawks and where they were going. All of the great successes The greatest success in franchise history the three Stanley Cups from two thousand intent until two thousand fifteen. And now you look at you. Know where they've gone since two thousand fifteen and people are wondering if he took a deeper look at it and said okay. We're not going in the right direction here. And I don't necessarily think we're going in the right direction so you take a look at the blackhawks since two thousand fifteen. When they won their last Stanley Cup they have a first round loss. They have a first round loss and now they've missed the playoffs two years in a row and the only way they're going to make the playoffs this year is if they expand them so one of the theories going around right now. Is that rocky words with some time Decided to take a big hard look at where it was going and say that we need to start making some changes and stand. Bowman has not confirmed it but it is believed. He got an extension last year so if John McDonough Back Stan. Bowman may be rocky. Wirtz decided he had to start right at the top. Does this then mean this will be sea? Change for the Blackhawks. I think that what everybody is. Kinda suspecting right now is it's not good news for the interim people in this day and age. Jeff you have to have the question. Is there anything here? That may be happened that we don't know about that fits into the behavioral category. And Right. Now there's no reason to believe that like I asked. Is there something? I'm missing here and I was told no like John. Mcdonough could be a really demanding guy but I don't know anything like that so I can't say that right now does sound to me like it is it is what does it feel like that. Doesn't it feel as if this is going to be an abrupt departure from that era of Chicago Blackhawk if even if you listen to Rocky Wirtz quotes? You know? It'll take a new mindsets Transitioning the organization to win again. You know you mentioned you know the last five years. No playoff series wins and poised to be out of the playoffs for a third season in a row and Alfred. All great franchises go through this. We saw most recently the Los Angeles kings who had married themselves those two Stanley Cup winners and a lot of those players and a lot of those contracts start to peel things away and began to rebuild the squad. I can't help but thinking that with this move and whatever subsquent moves the words family makes now that Chicago's not on the exact same path. I do wonder too. I wonder if this is the beginning of change in era. I think one of the big questions is you know who's GonNa take over for mcdonagh right now. Rocky words sign is there but nobody knows at this point in time whether or not. He's the long-term answer there. I've had some people say they don't think so. I've had some people who say right. Now they'd say no but maybe he grows into it. They have a person there now. Jay blunk he's the executive vice president of the Blackhawks. He's been there for twelve years before that he was a vice president of the cubs for twenty two years and he's obviously a mcdonagh. Guy And a lot of people said to me. In normal circumstances. He'd be the guy that you'd be looking at and saying okay he could take over from mcdonagh. It's logical. He's his guy. Well are you gonNA put a person there who is going to be loyal to mcdonagh as the replacement? So that's already one of the questions the other name. I heard that people said could potentially be that individual is a guy by the name Peter Hasson. He's the vice president of marketing for the Blackhawks and he's someone who has spoken of very highly in that organization. He's been there for fifteen years and before that he worked in the sabers organization. But I think right now. One of the questions is going to be. Are they going to stay internal or external and I think the other thing there? Jeff that people talk about with the Blackhawks and this has been in the last couple of years. The secrets got now is as good as that team has been and it's been great this decade. Not Everybody got along. Oh Yeah and they won. Despite the fact a lot of people behind the scenes did not get along and people are kind of asking okay. What does that mean you know how is rocky wirtz going to channel that as they transition to a new leader? Is there any chance to stand? Bowman gets kicked up. I don't know that's one of the things I wonder. I also wonder if they would default to because John McDonough came in from the Chicago cubs as we all know on His track record if you can speak about here in a couple of moments is pretty exemplary. So it's no knock on. They've got the baseball guy trying to turn around the hockey team. Mcdonagh did a really good job But I wonder if they go to a hockey guy and and and you know me Elliott. What's what's my old saying. I cheer for chaos like really what I cheer for is whatever is GonNa light my twitter stream ablaze and I. I wonder about someone like Mike Gillis in that role because that would just be too delicious for the Vancouver Chicago rivalry but I again. I think about that. That's so you I just want my twitter to go to go nuts. That's an easy way to do it. Well you know Jeff. I think one thing you point out there is there's GonNa be a lot of interest for sure like who isn't gonNA WANNA run the Chicago Blackhawks. Well it's now a proud franchise once again. It's now a mighty franchise is now one of the most important franchises in the entire NHL You know it's one that you know we always make the joke about okay you know how many more winter classics for the Chicago Blackhawks. How many more you know national NBC Games Chicago Blackhawks? And it's because they are one of the most important teams in the NHL. And all that. All that redevelopment was under the watch of John McDonough and I know that he rubbed a lot of people. The wrong way I understand that I understand all the dynamics we all understand the JOINVILLE story etc but when you look at the legacy of John McDonough in Chicago. I mean the drafting was great. The development was great. They won the Stanley Cups. But mcdonagh did not standing job with that brand and reestablishing that blackhawks brand that had been kicked in the dirt for so many years. You know anybody can complain about anybody. Anybody can find fault with anybody. This is a results oriented business. The Blackhawks brand was down. It was low it was. I still remember the day. That bill words Died people writing the articles about how this is a great day for the Blackhawks and people getting angry about people writing that at the end of the day they won their brand became popular. The building was full again. It was a great place to go to games. The convention became a huge success. There was pride in being a Black Hawk and for a lot of times that it. Kinda gone away so people might not like the way. He approached things or the fact that maybe people will always find fault with everyone the bottom line in a results oriented Business Jeff. He delivered results. You know what I always think about when I think of of mcdonagh in some of those early days with that Blackhawks team is how he was able to keep the blackhawks relevant even when hockey was off the ice even in the off-season whether it was you know John Tapes or Patrick Kane throat the first pitch Before a cubs game. I still remember you know the Brian Campbell story of the organization. And I believe this all comes from Donna. Saying you know we've been out of the headlines for too long here we need a signing to make ourselves relevant to remind sports fans here in Chicago that this is still a brand. They need to be aware of and they'd notice. Hockey team is still doing things. Even if you have to overpay go get Brian Campbell. We need another splash like it was that kind of marketing that kept that brand relevant when a lot of hockey brands as we all see in the summer in various markets. Kind of go to sleep mcdonagh. Never let his brand go to sleep at all in Chicago. No he was always working in just moments ago. While we're taping this. John McDonough released a statement through the Blackhawks twitter page dear Blackhawks family and fans rocky. Words gave me an amazing opportunity to preside over the blackhawks twelve and a half years ago. It was the right of a Lifetime. I would like to thank rocky. The words family our staff the players the ambassadors and the fans for all they've done for the organization. I will be forever grateful to them and proud of what we accomplished together. Blackhawks fans are so incredibly passionate and loyal and are deserving of a consistent winner. I wish Danny words well in his new role and I am confident. The organization will have success in the search for a new president. My late father used a phrase sparingly but impactfully describe those. He found to be the most dignified respectful and worthy of admiration. He would say they had quotes class. Alamo D- Unquote that perfectly describes the words family and the Chicago Blackhawks. Good luck I'll always be pulling for you John F. mcdonagh if you're a blackhawks player right now. How are you feeling? Ask Me Times. Do you think the changing of a president really effects team. But this isn't just the president. You're hearing rocky wirtz talking about transitioning to the to the next stage transition the organization to win again I some of the language around this is were moving on here this year. Because one of the questions yet you know you ask yourself in this you know the the dying days of this last era of the Chicago Blackhawks and I would always ask of the hawks this season. Do you believe you can win the Stanley Cup with this group still and if the answer is no then you have to go about building the new group. I think it's interesting Jeff. There's there's no question about it like the biggest change happened last year the Quenneville. That was the sign that times were different. And you know you can't fool players you know. They compete hard like those guys like. Cain Duncan Keith Seabrook. Even though he was hurt they compete hard but they know they know they're not good enough. They might not say it. They don't want to say it but they know and I don't think you're fooling anyone if you're saying that there didn't have to be some kind of change and now we'll see how deep that goes it would take team is stronger. Brand is strong as the blackhawks. Knock the number one story off the headline certainly this podcast and elsewhere as well But Elliot what is the very latest and you know maybe the story right now is sort of all about the return to play committee But what is the very latest in the NHL on pause story from your office well. I think that it's interesting. Like on the weekend Adrian Watching Hausky. Who's a great reporter tweeted that the NBA was looking at reopening their practice facilities to small groups on Nove on? May I not November? I on May first which is Friday and then not even three days after he tweeted that out it was moved back to. May Eighth and I don't think that means watching the Rousey is raw was wrong or as a bad reporter. I just think that that shows how this changes almost on a day-to-day basis. Like I had one agent. I called last week. I said what do you think he says? I'm not going to even look at my phone for a week. Like I'm not going to think about it for a week and I go no and he goes. Nothing's going to change in a week so I think what you've got is you've got. Nhl Teams Hoping and the League that they'll be able to open up those facilities by the middle of May. I think they really hope they'll be able to do it. And you know for example like if like Arizona if they open up their facilities you know. Obviously we know Austin Matthews and Frederik Anderson are down there in Arizona. Right they'll be able to go and work out and skate and small groups. They're like you won't have to go back to your NHL rank. If you're close somewhere else you could. You could go there. I think that that's kind of what they're looking at. And that's the next stage. I'm I have heard. The owners are dead. Set against compliance buyouts absolutely against them. They've lost a lot of money as a group. Their businesses the stock prices. They don't want money outside the system. And you know that's why like some people mocked Kurt over heart the stays. They must not like that idea then either well the one thing about that is is that at least what he's proposing is you can charge a luxury tax or something for that. Like the one thing I agree with. And there's a lot of people who don't like over heart. He's battled with the Union. He battles with teams. There's one GM who's never going to forgive me for being friendly with overheard but if the CAP is eighty one five for the next three years. And that's possible you know. Some teams are really going to be stock. And you know you always talk about. You shouldn't penalize teams for drafting and developing right right Well now we're going to penalize them for drafting and developing right during an unexpected economic time. Like I have no problem with the idea of thinking of something different. Because if there's no compliance buyout some of these teams are going to be stuck unless you can get Daniel Players Association to agree to a rollback. Well I'll tell you this. One of the things I heard was that they had proposed a lower cap and the word I I heard from the League wise. We will consider that if you consider a rollback and someone told me that wasn't interest. They weren't interested now. I'll tell you something else I heard. I don't know whether they were instructed to do it or what happened. But apparently the word came down. Stop using the phrase rollback because it makes the players so crazy because they all think of Lock to AFO five exactly so I mean like all of this is going to be part of it but the one thing I really liked about it was it was a unique take on it and teams are going to be stuck the other one. Jeff is the draft. And I assume we'RE GONNA find out this week if the draft is gonNA move up to June fifth but I'll tell you like one of the. Gm's told me that the fights behind the scenes are on believable. Like just unbelievable. Like apparently like one. Gm told me her two other guys going added one gave it to the other because he wasn't angry enough at the idea all he said like they're furious. They're upset. There was a time last week. Jaffre I think the. Gm's thought that they had kind of force this away and not going to happen. And now today I got guys telling me. They're not so sure so We'll find out this week. We will stay tuned one of the things we know about hockey. This week is at hockey in the future will not include Joel Ward. He announces his retirement. After seven. Hundred. Twenty six games. A real nice piece of the Players Tribune Eleven seasons. I've made the point that if there were more players in the NHL leg Joel Ward. What a delightful league would be to cover. It already is but guys like word. Make it that much better Your thoughts on on Joe Ward a guy that went a very non traditional route to getting to the NHL. Well I think that's the thing you admire about it. The most right is that he he didn't do it. The normal way and one of the things that players who played with them to a man said that because he kind of came through it differently he was more relaxed about things and they said that was one of the great effects that he had on teams that he wouldn't panic about situations he's like. I've seen worse than this or it's a bonus for me to be here so I'm not going to get too freaked out or to wound up about them and I. I really liked that. I liked that perspective. I think he's GonNa end up working for the sharks you know. Obviously reading all the stories he still lives in the San Jose area. The sharks do a really good job of having you know former players in their organization. Mike Ricci Curtis Brown's on TV. Jimmy Baker Bret Hedican or on. Tv Fine Marchment. Marija in March men are in the organization. You're there. There are pretty loyal group to the people there so I think he's going to end up there and several. I'll tell you a funny thing. He's scored the goal. Of course that knocked out Boston when they are trying to fend the Stanley Cup in two thousand twelve right to the stick. Greg Zanan Boston Bruins. I'll turn it over to one credible coming with ward good. What a chance score skoll. Good Morning Good Night Boston. The kiddies there won't be they knew Stanley Cup champion not capitals are still dancing when Tim. Thomas walked away from hockey. Glenn Healy said to me now. That goal makes sense and I said what are you talking about? And he says if you watch that goal ward scores and there's contact and he said he's not blaming ward for it like it's a battle in the playoffs and if the bully gets bombed the golden gets bumped and of course heels was a goalie he said Tim. Thomas didn't even argue the call. He just skated right off the ice he said when when Thomas walked away he went back to that highlight and said. I always wondered why Tim. Thomas never threw a fit now. I know he was done. That's a great story. It's the only good story Glenn Healy's ever told here's a good story speaking of stories if you're a wrestling fan you know all about the dark side of the ring series That's airing right now and has been some fantastic work. Whether it's the Chris Benoit's story the New Jack Story that Jimmy Snuka story and last week they ran the Dino Bravo story. Elliott's was a you know Quebecois wrestler wwf you know met his demise in very questionable ways and one of the stories in the Peace Talks Abo- Bravo beating up a former member of the Quebec nordiques at a bar. And it's sort of turned into this mission for everybody to try to figure out who that person was as we all know. Dino Bravo was a huge Montreal Canadian's Fan Would go to the Games all the time. Pamela prayed who's a journalist in Quebec whose does outstanding work has a new book by the way out Andre the giant which looks fantastic. And if you know PAT's work. It is thorough. This book should be fantastic. Actually the draft when Julianne Goce was selected since. His family had a bodybuilding and pro wrestling background. A lot of the information that I use when goce was selected. I got from PAT like this guy. This guy's game is tight. This guy really knows his stuff and he was able to track down with. The Quebec nordiques player was and it turns out it was Serge. Bernier who we all know after his career was over was involved in a very Highly publicized cocaine trafficking Arrest so that was the player in question. Pat found that out so I was also trying to figure out who that player was and in my conversations it turns out that there is even more of a back story to this one involving the Quebec nordiques now. Dino Bravo was Montreal Canadian's fan of pro wrestler. You know what always give it to Quebec nordiques players? You know. Lean over the glass scream at them a yell at all the guys and one night. Simonneau lay former NHL and then Assistant Coach with Quebec. Nordiques took a hockey stick and smash over Dino Bravo hit him with his stick from the bench to the stands to further incite Dino Bravo so that is a a little known piece this story of the late Dino Bravo's hatred towards the Quebec Nordiques as a fan of the Montreal Canadians coming up on the podcast. Today you will hear from a couple of DEFENSEMAN JAKE MUHSIN OF THE TORONTO. Maple leafs John Michael Lyles as well now ex. Nhl defensemen and also ex NHL. Now the assistant coach and assistant gm of the Owen sound attack of the Oh l. And someone who is responsible for training Justin Bieber in his impending showdown with Jordan Bennington. Joey will be here on. The program will not want to miss that interview here. We go welcome thirty before we get the Jake Muslim. The Toronto Maple leafs annoy you have something you want to read to kick off the podcast. This week yes I got a direct message on twitter from a West young and he writes A. Hello Mr Friedmann. My name is West Young. I am from Cole Harbour Nova Scotia. And he's a big fan of the podcast. He didn't want to register some disappointment. with the last podcast dated April. Twenty second of last week He liked the interviews especially with Jason Spencer and Adam oates but he expressed some disappointment that there was he says. I can't help but wonder why there was no mention of thoughts. Our condolences for what happened. Recently in Nova Scotia. He said I'm reaching out to ask personally instead of a public forum because I prefer to understand the why perhaps it's because you recorded before everything or perhaps you prefer to keep it sports or even you rather keep it light. I felt like you guys may have overlooked even mentioning condolences to the people of Nova Scotia. I I understand if I don't receive a response. Your work is your business. Who Am I to tell you how to go about doing your work? Stay Safe Wash your hands Thank you for the advice. Western shares for Nova Scotia and wrote back to West right away. After I saw the message and I said you know I think it's a very fair comment. Sometimes we get so wrapped up in what we are doing. We forget the bigger picture and I say that I would make it right next week. And so you know I wanted. I sent out a few things on twitter. I saw that were I thought really special. I thought the Calgary flames beautiful video on their twitter. Jeff someone you and I know Paul. Bromley who played university basketball in the Atlantic League and the National Championship is as a player he put together a beautiful tribute that we re tweeted. The one thing I I recognize is and I think we recognize. Is You know there are people from the Nova Scotia region. Who Do listen to the podcast. Sometimes I think we do get wrapped in our work and we're thinking okay this is the show and maybe we forgot and there's nothing wrong with going back and saying hey we'd like to throw a couple of words into know that we're thinking about you. We recognize what you've been through and if we can bring you a little bit of peace and a little bit of mindfulness while you go through a very difficult time in your region We're happy to do it so wes. I thank you very much for writing for me. I appreciate the way in which you did it. And we want you in everybody out there in Atlantic Canada to know that we are thinking of you to your point. Elliot thank you for that for that note. Reminding US About this I I don't think that it's just a Nova Scotia Story. I think this is one that went from coast to coast to coast in our country. I know how I felt When we first started hearing the reports There's one picture that still makes me stop and just the just halts everything that I'm doing. It's a picture of the late. Heidi Stevenson the RCMP. Officer you know walking with eight or nine children and just that look of joy you know surrounded with children's laughter On her face and she perished in this senseless attack as well. I think this is one that that all Canadians can feel whether it was. You know Heidi Stevenson whether it was one of the healthcare workers. I believe there was retired. Rcmp officer as well Who lost his life like honesty Elliott? I think this is one of those moments where you know this country. This is the sound and the feeling of thirty three million hearts breaking all at the same time for one area and one collection of people so echoing. What Elliott said. Wes Thank you so much for that Note to Elliott And by extension the PODCAST and we appreciate you raising that issue. Okay Jake Muhsin. One of the best trades cow debis's made Elliott. Oh I would think so. I'm you know he gave up a lot to get him but he got a year and a half of them now. He's extended him. I think that they needed somebody like him. An Edgy Guy. A Guy who's won a guy who understands winning you know. I think a lot of the young players they've been through the meat grinder in Toronto Because of everything they've been through especially with the contracts and how much Ben with hot air. Those things talk. And you're bringing a guy like Ron Hansie's not obviously as old as easy. But he's seen a lot. He understands the roller coaster and he brings a lot on the ice very good deal a much different looking blue line with Jake. Muhsin in the lineup are the maple leafs here. He is Jake. Muhsin of the Maple leafs on thirty thoughts. The Oh Elliot. Please be joined now by Jake. Muhsin defensemen for the Toronto Maple leafs Jake first of all. Thanks so much for stopping by today. Much appreciated before we get into the maple leafs and the season and what's on the horizon just a blanket wide open wide brush question. How is Jake Muslin Right? Now I'm good. You know I think all of us are kind of. It's it's an unknown time and it's it's a weird time but As far as health in mind. I'm I'm you know I'm there. I'm one hundred percent ready to go. I feel good. So we're just kind of waiting. This thing out and everyone would like to be back playing right now but are you in a good rhythm right now in your life. Yeah I am. I've been able to stay healthy during this time. And you know my family's been healthy and and you know as far as that goes it's been It's been pretty smooth so it's been a good rhythm is as good as it can be. You know I think the other thing that's interesting about it. Jake is that you just signed an extension with Toronto and I think there's a lot of players now who are kind of thinking. Oh boy like it's uncertain and it's uncertain for everybody. There's there's nobody out there who's not who's going to be unscathed by there so you know how much do you it helps your frame of mind that that is sorted out. There's no question it was. We're very happy that we got the deal done before. I'm glad that We work things out and we came together and got a deal done. Because like you said there's a lot of uncertainty and you know with the market and when it's going to be and you know the cap issues or if there's going to be any or or what have you and so as far as that goes. I'm very excited that the deal is done. I wanted to be here anyways But having it done before all of this You know it's. It's allowed me to not worry about that aspect of my life going forward for sure. You dodged a bullet almost. Yeah I mean I was talking after all. This happened in clicked in like a week into this house like wild like. I'm lucky that you know we got this done. And I'm very fortunate to have it done before. Was there ever any doubt? I don't think so I think both sides wanted to to get a deal done and it was just a matter of come together and working out a fair deal and I think we did that I wanted to be here. They wanted me to be here so there was no real. Someone wants or doesn't want you type feeling so You know I don't think there is a doubt at all you know you In a lot of ways are a as much as you're a new school defense because as you all know. The analyst community loves Jake Muhsin but there's also a lot of old school In Jake Muslim as well have you always played defense like this guy can remember you in in Sioux and this was Jake Muhsin But like describe if he could like the evolution of your game so if we go way back to like early junior I I had got injured and most people have heard of this or if not it doesn't really matter but I kind of lost who I was and how to play hockey really so it took a while in junior to find that again. And so I was lucky. Enough to to have hard coaches and old school coaches where I kind of you know. This is how I had to play to to be successful in. That was what made me successful so it kind just grew from there and then getting drafted and then kind of makes you have an edge on a chip on your shoulder type deal and and then to sign in into the West into an La Organization. That was hard nosed and old school by committee with some of the guys that I came up under And it's been you know a part of me since then there's the chip ever go away. That's one thing I wonder yeah. Does it ever Galway now? I you know you're always trying to prove yourself in. If it's a battle within yourself or you know to help someone else I mean. It's you're always competing. I compete with myself to just stay as I'm getting older. I'm trying to stay young mentally. Stay fast Physically and to keep that spirit As well as you know being excited to come to the rank everyday do you find now that more so than ever as it is becoming less of a contact league that what you bring is more valuable to the NHL Right now because you know just to be blunt. Once upon a time everybody on every blue line was expected to hit and play physical and shovel snow in front of the net and downloading the all of that. But that's not true anymore but players like you still do it. Do you find that you're almost. You almost become special in that sense in the league. I still think it's a big part of the game. It's a physical game and if you are wearing guys down physically they're gonNA they're not gonNA WANNA compete or you know you can break them down and I found that we had success doing that in La. And I'm that's in me to just try where guys down in not have them come back with energy like you WanNa continually beat them down and and play physical against them so you know they almost give up. I think that's still a key part into to winning throughout the season and playoffs. I wonder now. Is there. Anybody who you've hit recently. Who looked up at you after like? Oh my God. I forgot that Muslim was on the ice. I don't I don't know I it's because I'll tell you who did say that Tori crew to the Middle East. Even with the crew is having a hard time getting back up. You could just hear the collision. Did he get belted by Jake Muslim? Royal Psalm looking down for the Nick Control. The puck right away. Employ never liked seeing that as tried to get himself up. You know in that playoff hockey you gotta finish checks again. Chinaware guys down and he's HD tonight on that team and You WanNa make it hard for them. So yeah I'm sure there's there's guys like you know they forgot or got some guys go around and they think you know it's you can just play without getting hit anymore and I try not to let that happen okay. The the flip side of that is 'cause I remember talking to Colby Armstrong about his hit on Marian Hosa which was real tough head and he said look as much as it hurt Hosa. It hurt me and still hurts me to this day. Said you know every now and then I get this pain in my shoulder from reminded about hitting Marion Hosa. Was there someone. Jake that you hit and you said. Woo. I don't. I didn't know that this guy was that strong. Well this is going back a few years but I I do remember trying to hit Dustin Buffalo in which I. I really don't know what I was thinking but he did not move and I lost all my Brat and I could go back to the Zoli crab. I'm not doing that again. He's not even worth it. He's too big too strong so There's a few guys. Were you know? Sometimes you get caught like you know you go to try and hit a smaller guy and you know you think you're just going to run him over and they counter you and it's like they can catch you And there's some smaller guys who are sturdy and strong and surprise you so you can't take anyone for granted anymore. You mentioned that some of your when you came up with the king's like there were some really old school thinkers in guys there. Were those guys like who were the old school guys in. What was their old school attitude? One of my mentors was agreeing coming up. And if you guys remember how green replayed it was young who is a hard on his game and that was like that was the way to do it. You know we also had Robin mcgeer. Who and Willie Mitchell and these are old school guy that played hard and and they finish checks and you know their mentality was going to play hard and physical on guys. Wear them down and That's kind of what I came up in and in also that's all I know now so I wonder when you play with Toronto and this is a team. That's learning how to win. Do you look at yourself at all and say Oh my God. I met green like I've met grumpy old guy who gave it to me a decade ago. I know I love being miserable. This great no. I try to help out where I can and I think a lot of the younger demand are the really skilled in in the game while with the pocket and can skate and can do all this stuff. But I think there's still an aspect of the game like Earlier was that physical play that I think this crucial and trying to to help them be harder on guys in more consistent throughout the season on that you know yours is an interesting career story You know drafted by the penguins and up signing With the Los Angeles Kings A couple of years playing in the American Hockey League into the La Kings. It's been Success with the Stanley Cup successful championships successful financially As well as as a sidebar. I wonder how much how much developing how much learning because listening when you play on a team with two doughty or a pair of Jude. Our you can learn a lot too but even getting there like how much did playing in Manchester mean to jake Muslim. It was huge at the time we had a really good development staff that helped young players there. And they're still doing it. And I I think it was beneficial for me to sit down and do video of just me on the ice my skills. What makes me successful in how I'm going to be successful at the next level looking back at it now? I think that was crucial for me and it helped me become the player. I am in and I'm grateful for that that experience in Manchester in it and that whole experience in La. When I look at you and your role in Toronto like Ron Haines e I always loved the way. He explained things that it's a roller coaster. Sometimes you're up. Sometimes you're down but you have to keep calm to get there eventually and now with Hanes e gone. I think you're kind of the guy who's best positioned to remind them of that. How much talk about your runs in La and how you got from point. A. Point B. When hanes you were talking about the roller coaster the roller coaster goes up. And it goes down and throat the season since you're trying to limit the downfall and when the guys get too high you. WanNa you WANNA knock down a few notches as well and keep it steady as you can so it's throat the season it's a long season. There's injuries their success. There's failures and you're just trying to keep that is even as you can throw the whole season now. Is there anyone in particular who you look at it and say this is a maple leaf? Who's come a long way in terms of understanding the mental importance of avoiding that Roller Coaster? Yeah I mean I've been here a year and a half now so in a lot of the younger guys had had already. You know kind of grown into player there. Aren't I still think we have a ways to go in and to learn As far as maturity Level I think Mitch Minor really understands How To win and the challenges that a year can bring to stay level headed and even Keel. There's other guys that are learning but I think Mitch has really understood. You know the battle of a season I'll ask you but also matthews and you played a lot of years on a team with onset culprits are one of the best two way centers in the NHL. The shot is the shot like Matthew. Shot maybe the best shot in the NHL. It's ridiculous but as far as being a complete player do start. Are you starting to see now? Matthews inching towards that copious star Berge Iran. O'reilly could Suri a style of player. I do and as far as Matt as offensive gifts are elite elite in the league. You know his defensive side of the puck is is growing as well. He's a big heavy guy. He can defend well. He's hard on guys when he really wants to be and I think he's realizing the importance of of both sides of the park whereas when you're a little bit younger and you come in as a goal score you want to score goals and and produce offensively and you know to win. We need all those guys to be as good or better defensively as they are offensively in that will take China Maple leafs. I believe to the next level. I look at this year. And it's been a lot has happened this year in Toronto. Coaching change ups and downs. It looked like it righted itself. If we do get to play Jake. I think the Toronto team will benefit from time off to reset. Do you buy that. No I do. I think so So I've looked at this a few ways and Juan were were a young group and I think coming off a break younger legs and younger minds they feel would bounce back may be quicker. They're excited to get back whereas older guys. Maybe they're like you know I don't know maybe it takes a while to get to get back into the swing of things and then there's the grind of a season can wear on younger guys in Mentally Physically. And this May give guys opportunity to heal physically and and regroup mentally to again be excited and healthy to return back to play the relationship. Between Defense Minister. Goaltender is always an interesting one Is it profoundly different playing in front of Frederik Anderson than it is Jack Campbell? Are there more similarities or differences for you? Well Freddie's AECOM guy and I feel like he calms everything down and Jack Comes in. And he's a real athletic energy guy so we have a little bit of two styles but they're both really good goalies in the in the every night they compete and they give us a chance to win every night I think we saw that was soupy coming in. He made a big difference in our club. And he he got us a bunch of wins that we that we need it and it gave Fred a little bit of a break. Mentally maybe physically to to just relax and focus on his game which has been strong all season. So it's it's a good relationship the D. and the goalies have and I think we're looking forward to building it Even more okay. This podcast is too serious. I have to ask some more ridiculous questions. You guys are asking the questions here all right. I heard you can no longer where European cut suits because of an incident while you were wearing one. Is that true I I need? What incident maybe I rip a pair. I someone told me like you ripped a pair while you were wearing it and you had to find a new place on New York Phil to get your suit. Steinhardt is this story true. I mean there's not one incident. There's probably been a few incidents in my career. Were you know the the suits get a little tight or maybe I get a little thicker and then you you split the pants and then you had to go to a stretch. You're more relaxed material. You know what I mean. Yes as a guy who's not as in good shape as you are jake. I'm not making fun of your physical conditioning. I'm just saying you're a big man and apparently you can't wear the European cut anymore. I heard a great story From your representative Joe Resident. Who said that there was a time that he got on the Ice Skate with you? And you filled him stretching and sent it like you said it like everyone in hockey. Is that story true? Yes this is a true story. He surprised me. Actually I was doing some skating in Woodstock on we rented the ice and And then all of a sudden I look in this guy's going on the ice with me and I look on who the heck exist. He's got a helmet on decked-out and under armor gear. He's got rick. Nash gloves on and look over. He's got a tinted visor. Joe Rustic my age it and he starts to lapse and he starts stretching on. I was laughing bed. Oh good I wanna ask you drew doughty as you just have keep late. He is such a such a wonderful personality so wonderful for the game so great for the game. I know you might miss playing with them. It's hard not to miss playing with someone like Jodi. Do you miss hearing him every day. Yes I do you know me and dewey. We grew really close in my time in L. A. and and in the summers you know we. We had a lot in common. We did a lot together off the ice and You know I still talk to him. Probably once a week either taxed or phone call or facetime. We both have a young daughter. So we're kinda growing together and He he'll be a friend of mine for for my whole life and I really do miss seeing him. And you know goofing around with him a lot. He's he the best mouth in the game. He's got a lot to say. And sometimes I you know. Maybe he shouldn't say stuff but he does and so but that's why I love him. He says what's on his mind and you know he's great for hockey. He's a great player. He's a great person. I gotTa tell you if I add two Stanley Cups. I had two Olympic gold medals. I WANNA World Cup and I've done as well financially as he has. I wouldn't care what I said. Either I really I. I think that's where he's at and he's got all the power to do whatever he wants and he does so. God bless him yeah. This is awesome. Jake I know were We're heavy on time. Thanks So much by look forward to talking to you again under better better circumstances when we can talk about you back on the ice. Thanks so much for doing this. Thanks for having me guys. Take our Elliott. That is flat out a great suit story about Jake. Muhsin well done. Have you ever ripped a suit before? I think of ripped a sued along the back but never pants. Have you watched this last dance at all? No I haven't watched it. I've been doing Walking dead every night with the kids so one of the last episodes one of the key key people in it was Chuck Daly. Who was the head coach of the Pistons and during the bad boy era and Chuck? Daly was an excellent dresser. Like I heard that he would look at reporters in their clothes and notice if they were wearing a good suit or cheap suit like he was one of those guys and apparently there was a game once where he tore his suit pants and like his underwear was showing and a player told me that Chuck Daly just in care like they had to send somebody back to the hotel to get another pair of pants or something like that and he just didn't care he absolutely did not care. He coached for the whole in his suit. And I gotTa tell you that's big brass ones. I love it and you ever up the suit yes and I did on the air once and I just. I sat there and it was a rip. You couldn't fix. It was in the bite and I did the rest of the show in it. Hang on a second so stylist. Then were who is in charge of Wardrobe Theresa Warburton. I can't remember who allies but don't forget it. Cbc Response For our own suits. It wasn't a sports net so I didn't have another pair so I had a hole on my right cheek and it was a little cooler than normal and you'll be happy to know that Pj He made sure that yes everybody knew about it. I was GONNA say who was most relentless on this was Iran was Kelly was at. Pj Come on look at that. List of people is PJ by a miles. Pj going away. all right Thanks Jake Muslim for stopping by the PODCAST. Today you can hear from John. Michael Lyles here in a couple of moments but first our conversation with Joey Haitian Joy Hisham played a few games in the NHL was a former first round draft pick of the Colorado Avalanche and right now is working as an assistant coach and assistant GM alongside deal the gray With the Owen. Sound attack of the. Oh L. and Elliot. You remember watching this kid. Play junior hockey Even though he was smallish by size he was one of the most highly skilled players Ingenieur While he was there like he looked like a guy that was poised to have a long good career with the avalanche Until Memorial Cup game against Kourtney and a hit by Brayden mcnabb Began concussion troubles for Joey and I was really looking forward to this interview to talk about his junior hockey pass and his thoughts on concussion. But Joey Hitchin is part of one of the great sidebars stories in the NHL Right now. He's the Guy Training Justin Bieber for his showdown against Jordan Bennington. Jeff is the one who proposed this interview. I I don't know Joey Hitchin well. This a great call Jeff like this was a great interview. A lot of good stuff to talk about. And the guy's got a lot of really good insights. I learned a lot listening to this one. Yeah the future is bright for Joey. Hitchin and you're GONNA see why here in a couple of moments here he is a former. Nhl are now assistant coach and GM of the on sound attack. Attention avs fans. Here's your Guy Joey. Hisham Elliott joined now by the assistant coach and assistant general manager of the Owen. Sound attack of the. Oh l. He was if you saw them play specifically in junior one of the more highly skilled players. You ever saw and proof that there is hockey life west of Toronto Ontario joke there. Joey hitchin joins us now. Joey how are you today? I'm great guys. Thanks for having me. A pleasure is ours We're GONNA get a lot of stuff today. And Yes Justin. Bieber's name is going to come up And probably plenty and Jordan. Pennington's name is gonNA come up and probably plenty as well but listeners know you'll give us a listener specifically Fans of the Colorado Avalanche the team. That drafted you. What Joey Is Up to these days with the. Oh and sound attack doing your skills school. Give us the nickel and dime tour on what Joey up to right now. I'm the assistant coach. Assistant general manager like you said and Owen sound so that pretty much is a full-time thing. I live in Owen sound during the winter. I'm obviously with the team full time and then I also do pretty much whatever Dale degray. The general manager tells me to do As his assistant. I'm I'm scouting. I'm video scouting travel around all over Ontario. To watch different players plays as well as being on the bench and being with the team every single day. So it's a it's a busy life right now but I'm I'm really enjoying it. I'm curious Joey. Do you see your future in coaching or managing and you see it at the continuing at the junior level or you hope to do it in the NHL Someday. Yeah. I think I'm definitely interested in both avenues. I really enjoy the management side. I think it's it's obviously completely different than coaching coaching. You're you're reacting very rapidly to information coming out you And on the management side you kind of have a lot more time to think things through and evaluate decisions you WanNa make so. They're both very intriguing to me. as of right now. I'm super passionate about helping kids I I'd say that's where the majority of my passion lies but definitely interested in both and obviously I think anybody that is in the game of hockey they want to work their way into the NHL as as a player or on this side of it the of the same goal in mind so definitely want to get back to the NHL Someday in some capacity. You know I've got a a lot of time for for Dale degray With Owen sound. I think he's one of the more visionary managers were Smart Guy Real Nice guy real accessible And as I mentioned like a real sort of vision For what hockey can be like. Every time I talked to Dale Joey. It's always always come away from it saying well. I never considered hockey from that. Point of view always be something that deal will leave me with and I'll go. I never really thought about it that way. What are some of the main things that you know another former? Nhl Ordeal degray has taught you along the way. Yeah well I think the main thing with Dale is he's just so passionate about what he does and I think anybody in any walk of life and whatever they're doing When you have a a passion like gale does for hockey you'll be successful so for me to be able to take step back and retire from playing. Get put in the position. I'm in right now and learn from a guy like Dale Grace. It's so exciting. He like I said he's so passionate about what he does. He worked so hard. He's watching video nonstop on different guys. For instance right now. We have the oil import draft coming up and my inbox will be flooded with different European players every morning for me to watch that. He's already watched the day before so Just the amount of information and the the digging he does to try and help our organization in Owen. Sound get better as is inspiring to see and I think it's why he's had so much success as general manager in Owen sound one of the smaller markets in the OH L. Do you know the story. Has He ever told the story when he played in the minors In the international league how he was traded in exchange for hotel receipts. No No. He hasn't told me that story. But that guy has more stories than anyone I've ever met in my life. That's all he does is tell stories. It's Elliot Dino the story you've told before on the podcast but now you've got to do it again. Well so. He's traded by Cleveland Indianapolis in exchange for. I don't know how much money it was but Money TO COVER CLEVELAND's Indianapolis Hotel Bills for the season and one of the more unique trays I've ever heard about. He's a he has a he's warning he's one of the more interesting because he didn't. Dale degray had a twenty year career in the NHL. But he's got like so many wonderful stories. Joey yeah absolutely and that one you look at his numbers in the American League again like he was an an unbelievable player. Like when you when you go through his hockey DB and you're like okay. How did he not play longer in the NHL? I think a year with the leafs. He was over half a point. A game as a defenseman so I mean just a an incredible hockey career. And that's pretty funny that you've got traded for hotel receipts because you would think someone that put up numbers that Kim might be worth a little bit more than that. The one thing I remember about his time in Toronto I used to go sit at the Games and the grays which may believe gardens where the top level seats and they went through a horrible losing streak while he was there and I just remember somebody yelling degree as the only guy on this team who doesn't suck and like the whole crowd near Me Cherry. And that's the one story. I remember about Dale degray as a player. That's also people people in Toronto like them and I remember that's true when he got traded. That was a lot of surprise or maybe they might have lost. Wave now was waivers waivers. Waivers that's right to Toronto. I think from Calgary Yup and then they put him on waivers in that set. And that's how we got away but you're right. He was a popular guy in Toronto. That was the asset management of the maple leafs at the time. Joey one thing I've always curious about is when a player transitions from finishing his career going to management one thing they all tell me is it's shocking to them to hear how management talks about players like they cannot believe how management riffs players that a big adjustment for you. Yeah absolutely and you know what Elliott. I think even more on the coaching side of that pretty much. In the coach's office you sit there and and pick players apart. I've never seen before in my life. I agree with it on the management side but I I even think. The management side is more optimistic about players than the coaching side. I think it's pretty easy for a coach to get frustrated Immediately after a game and and to his assistant coaches or an assistant venting to the other coaches about Bo different players on the ice. But yeah I I can't deny that. How do you talk to players on Owen? Sound like listen. You played in that market. You played in the. Oh l. or elite level talent. How do you talk to kids now on that team? Yeah I think it's so much different than even when I played. I think ahead coaches were able to Kinda impose their will enforce what they wanted by being really stern and and nowadays kids are so much different there. There are a lot more sensitive and to me. I think there are a lot smarter. And if you treat kids that way they're gonNA shut down on you and then and then your job's in jeopardy so I think the most important thing for me is to connect with kids. I try and connect on a personal level. Ask them about their family and just connect that way when they give you answers. Remember what they told you. My Mom's not doing well and then a week after make sure I re address that and ask them how their mom's doing at that point and I think when you on a personal level it makes them WanNa Produce and perform on the ice and makes them happy and I think that's a super important thing right now. With the youth of today the late mark reads was your coach there in Owen sound. Nhl Fans will remember him as a former assistant coach with the Ottawa. Senators was he liked that with you. Guys Yeah Yeah. My my dad used to say to me. Sounds like your dad away from home. Any he really was he. He was such a an inspirational guy again. Similar to Dale's so passionate about the game but but treated you like a human. He didn't treat you like a you know a piece of meat and and Yell and scream at you all the time. If he wanted to get his point across he'd bring you in a conversation with you and I learned at times from him. I think he was definitely the best coach I've ever had. It Sounds Joey that your dad's a little jealous. Yeah Yeah you know you might have been he My Dad was probably the biggest influence in my hockey career. So if I was talking so positive about someone else he might have not taken that too lightly now you you come from Stratford Ontario Rich Hockey history there the William Allman arena where we add hockey Dane Canada A number of years ago rivaled only by Galt arena Were Gordie Howe. Once played when he played briefly in the miners as the longest continuous running hockey rink. In all of Canada we think of the Stratford streak. Howie Morenz and we'll think players like pronger and old chuck and Blake playing with the fans. What was Stratford hockey leg to a young Joey Hitchin? It was incredible Such fun hockey city to grow up in every Friday night was We were all down to William allman memorial arena to watch the STRAFFORD cullens play When I was growing up they were always such a good team They won three Sutherland. Cups while I was a kid which I was able to enjoy firsthand the one year. I was pretty much not officially but I was pretty much stick boy. I was there at all the practices helping them out as much as I possibly could. So such a historic or organization now called the Strap Warriors. But Yeah I mean incredible hockey city in in the winter and Strauss wrote Friday nights the allman arena. Where everyone's hanging out. Now you have and I didn't know this until Jeff explained it but the Bieber Tien. How does that start? And where does it stand now? Yes Oh Justin is obviously from Strafford as well so we always grew up. I'm a little bit older than him. So we weren't Super close growing up but as things progressed in and he became famous is kind of a funny story I was in. I was in Finland Plan for Yogurt and Kate. Shell and he was doing a concert there. and wanted to Skate so actually his dad got in contact with me and I. I set him up to skate with the yard curry. I actually didn't see him. We were on the road in Russia and He had a good skate with Jerry Curry. And then we kind of lost touch and I got a random phone call this year after all the Benton stuff came up and Yeah I was. I was put in touch with them. he asked me to come to. La NEW YORK CITY IN LA WE'LL LA MULTIPLE TIMES. And and just trying to make them better at hockey right now. He's super passionate about the game. So it's been fun. Did he not rent out Central Park? So you guys could practice. Yeah Yeah so. That was a crazy story we were. We were in New York The plan was escape at the New Jersey devils practice rankin and then I got a phone call. We're on the ice at eight and I got a phone call at six. Say and there's a car outside. You guys are going to be skating at central park tonight. Keep it quiet so I I went downstairs. Got In the car next thing you know. We had Central Park pretty much to ourselves. So who's incredible? So you've got Jordan Bennington who you know and you've got Justin Bieber who you know. Where's your loyalty here? You know what? It's a tough question but Benner didn't call me for any lessons so if dinner for lessons probably on his side but Justin called me for the lessons so you know what I gotTa. I gotta go with my hometown. Boy Is this going to happen because Bennington sure made it sound like it was going to happen. Yeah well I know both sides want to make it happen so whether it does or doesn't I think obviously we're in pretty strenuous crazy times right now when this stuff ends. I know both of them want it to happen and when you talk about guys like Jordan and Justin Bieber. They can pretty much make anything happen. Anything they want to happen they can make it happen so I can't see it not happening. There was a wild rumor going around that Justin Bieber and his father had some interest in buying the Ottawa senators. Have you heard anything like this? No no I definitely. Haven't it'd be a little bit shocking to me. I know he's a huge fan. I know he's really good friends with Austin Matthews. So I can't see it but you never know I I wouldn't I wouldn't well. I guess I would bet against it but You definitely never know can just pull some money off the tree in the backyard and buy a hockey team. And what's the holdup? How good is he? How good a player is he. Yeah so I mean that's a question I get asked all the time by absolutely everybody and he's actually not bad. He's got really good hands so when I say really good hands. I mean obviously doesn't stick. Hannah like Patrick Kane but He can pull things off that. You're like wow didn't expect that His shot is getting better. We're working on his shot and his skating. Stride is Just okay but honestly in a shootout. The only thing that really matters is your hands. And he's got pretty good hands so you never know obviously for him to get where he is in the music industry in the entertainment world. The Guy's got Dr. Yes and I think if you're driven at something to be that successful if you want to try to be good at something else. Maybe you're not going to be elite but you could still be pretty good at it. He's not a guy. I'm betting against put it that way. Yeah absolutely he's extremely dedicated and super super passionate about hockey like when I say super passionate like he's obsessed with it. It's all he wants to do right now and I feel like when he gets something in his head and wants to get good at it he's GonNa put a ton of time and effort into it then obviously like you said with his music career at such a young age he was so into it and just became so good at it through repetition and with hockey. I know I know he's putting in a lot of work right now so I'm excited for him. It's fun to watch so Bennington knows your team Bieber then What are your text exchanges? Like these days you know they can get a little heated It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny spot for us both to be in when it when it first started happening We were losing laughing. Going back and forth but Yeah now it's been It's been a pretty fun exchange and I'm really happy It worked out the way it has. Is he aware that you were like the source of all adjusts stories about him like he gets that right? Oh Yeah Oh yeah. I was nervous coming on here today. I don't know what he would have told you guys about me. No nothing clean as a whistle. Perfect d ever sort of. Catch Yourself Joey and say hold on a second. How did I end up here here? I am teaching. You know one of the heavyweights in the music. Industry had ADO backhanded. Toe Drags to score on my old junior goaltender does part of it just Kinda seems. Surreal for you. Yeah Yeah it does jeff absolutely Obviously my career was cut. Short and Obviously it was unfortunate. But I'm in a position our helping kids and and helping people get better at something they're passionate about. I'm passionate about that so I'm in a situation where I'm I feel very fortunate and I'd never take it for granted. Obviously it would have been nice to have a long. Nhl Career but that wasn't in the cards for me. And I I am where I am and I'm I'm very happy to be where I am. I did want to talk a little bit about that. You know my son who's now eight. He had his first concussion a couple years ago when he was. I think he was five or six. I can't remember exact year and I remember the you know. Obviously you're very worried because you know we know what concussions can do what they are and the doctor said you know to us be smart and it doesn't mean the end of the world but you have to be smart and they say that they see a lot of parents now who read about concussions and they think it's the end for their child but it doesn't have to be if you're smart so what I wanted to ask. You is going to be a lot of parents who listen to this and their kids are GonNa go through it. What advice would you give parents on how to navigate through that world? Yeah I think that's an incredible question Elliott and that's something I'm I'm extremely passionate about I'M GONNA actually. This might not be the answer you were you were looking for or expecting. But I'm going to relate it to. I'm really good friends with Ryan O'Reilly and last summer I was able to attend escaped with Adam oates and the things that Adam oates talked about for avoiding impacts that you don't need to be taking in absorbing impact when you're putting different situations. It opened my eyes so much as a skills coach. Because I feel right now. There's so much bad information out there. About what a skills coach should be teaching. What your kids should be learning I think that's why parents need to be extremely selective when they're trying to to find someone to help their kid get to the next level with that said Hits happen play an extremely fast game and you can't put yourself in bad situations and when I say put yourself in bad situations I've talking about Obviously your your entire life. You've you've identified yourself as a hockey player and that's all you've ever done and when you get a bad concussion that's completely taken away from you and you really have to be patient and trust the process that you're gonNA get healthy. You're going to get better and not put yourself in a bad situation comeback too soon and put yourself at risk of that that second impact in a short amount of time joy. I wonder if you seen a difference. You know I'm older than you. I grew up in an age where you didn't tell anyone you were hurt. But you grew in the similar age to there was no no no you play through it and I still think a lot of life is like that but do you see a difference in saying okay. There's there's a line we can't cross here even if we WANNA play hurt. Yeah absolutely. I think there's so much more knowledge and information Nowadays that kids realize it's not smart to go back and play and they kinda house more information on the long term effects of if you do so times have definitely changed when I played Take a Wack you get your Bell Rung and wanted to get back there and play as soon as you possibly could whether that meant you felt okay or not and now I think kids are more aware of the risks and I think they make way better decisions than we used to. How many times if at all. I don't know maybe it's painful. I'm not sure I'm not. I'm not you joey. Obviously how many times you've gone back to watch the mcnabb hit and have you ever thought to yourself. Maybe i should have done this better. Maybe i could have done this differently. Maybe all of this could have been different Yeah absolutely I think. That's something that that has obviously crossed my mind a ton and I mentioned earlier. That connection with Adam oates and through meeting him and through spending time with Rydell Riley and keeping in touch without him after we skated together. I've had the opportunity to send him that clip and kind of pick his brain about it and the way he sees the game and the way that you know it is possible to avoid impact. I think it definitely could have been different for me even to the point where. I truly believe that If I would've had some of that knowledge at the time I might still be playing today. There was a game between your avs in Los Angeles. Kings was the first time that you guys had met on the ice Since the the Memorial Cup incident with the with the hits were you at a point at that point in your life where that was just another game or was there still something there for Joey. Haitian you're referring to playing against Brayden. Mcnabb yeah you know what I think? It would be alive for me to say that. I didn't hold a grudge against him for a long time but I look at him and the career. He's had a hockey player and he absolutely hammered guys. He has unbelievable timing. And it's something that he's extremely good at and obviously he's. He's very good at a lot of other things to do with hockey He moves the puck very well. He moves very well for his size and he hammers guys so for me to go out against the La Kings First game back since the Memorial Cup and try and do something to a guy. That's you know six foot three or six foot four and two hundred and twenty pounds. I think it would have been absolutely ridiculous to put myself in that position at five. Ten One hundred seventy pounds. I had to try and make it about hockey And put that on the back burner and now looking back. I don't hold a grudge against Brayden mcnabb whatsoever. I think he's like I said he's an incredible hockey player and he's had A. He's had a phenomenal career in any deserves it. How do you talk to parents about their kids? And I'm asking. This is a hockey para myself. Maybe I'm just asking advice for my own kids But how do you talk to Parents about contact in minor hockey. It's a tough one and I think as a younger kid and I was the same way playing contact hockey. All I wanted to do was hit guys for the first few years and and I think that's I think that's something of a lot of kids experience in. It's a bit of an ego thing but the game. Hockey's the game a hockey whether whether you're trying to hit people or you're trying to make plays and the fact of the matter is if you're focused on going out there and running people over and you're focused on contacting contact only. You're not going to be a successful hockey player. Because hockey's played with the PUCK and the way the game's going. Now it's such a possession game. I think kids need to realize that. Yeah hittings part of the game but to have the puck on. Your stick is a lot more important for your team and a lot more important for your team to win hockey games than it is to run people over. I will say this. Joey is is a guy who was a small kid and not a great hockey player. I remember when hitting became legal. I realized very quickly that I didn't know how to properly take a deliver a hit. And you know you talk about Adam. Oates and being aware. And and avoidance of hits we can take out hitting all we want and I'm not interested in getting that in that debate enough people have it but my feelings about it is you can take out of the game but at some point there's going to have to be contact and you know one of the things that problems. The girls hockey has there's no hitting but again there's contact and players were suffering concussions. Because they didn't know what to do so I think it's so important that the teaching of hitting how to deliver how to receive how to be aware has to be part of hockey weather hitting isn't there is yeah. I would completely agree. Elliott and I'll take my own case for example I I was a first round draft pick to the H. L. I was a first round draft pick to the NHL. And when I talked to Adam. Oates about absorbing impact in avoiding impact. I had no clue absolutely no clue the stuff he's telling me and explaining to me and showing me so like you said. I think it's extremely important to learn that. And that's something that is extremely hard to learn and I don't think there's enough information out there or there's enough people out there with the knowledge to be able to teach that properly because when you look at the game the way. Adam oates for instance looks at the game or Ryan. O'reilly looks at the game. Rhino Riley doesn't take very much impact and he's GonNa have an extremely long NHL CAREER. He's are played An incredible amount of games at such a young age. So it's an art. Were on the ice and we're moving extremely fast. It's like a car accident a simulated car accident every time you're out there and you get hit so if you don't know how to absorb that impact you're going to be you're going to be in some bad situations. I wondered too and oh by the way and Riley's doing it without a visor by the witnessed this entire entire road so far but I. I wonder if there's something to this. I'm curious your thoughts on a joey. It's a two way street. You're right. Learning how to absorb impact learning how to take contact. That's a viable skill. That every hockey player Needs to learn but one of the things that one of the things that's interesting. I don't know when it changed. But somehow what we used to call body checking has now turned into hitting and you know. The definition of a body check is physical contact which forces a change of possession. That's what it was four but somewhere along the way and I don't know where it was that turned into just trying to hurt people that just turned into finish. Check where I'm down. Make sure he can't come out for the next shift. Yes is there. Not An onus one yes to protect yourself out there but also. Isn't there an onus? On teaching kids how to body check instead of hit this might just be semantic and I might be slice kimberly fine but I think there's something there kids I don't know if they learn how to body check as much as they learn how to hit right now. Yeah I completely agree Jeff and I think my dad when I was a kid used to call it body positioning if you have good body positioning. It doesn't matter if the guy's six foot ten two hundred and fifty pounds. He's not going to be able to knock you off the puck because your body position is better than his body position and I think that's something that is definitely not taught nowadays and I think other kids feed into it because you blow someone up and and your entire bench goes absolutely crazy. Whether you're team ended up with the PUCK or not. So and you're right. I think that's these be realized. The point of hitting somebody is to take the puck from them and really plain and simple. There's no other. There's no other reason why you would why you would go after somebody and and try and hit them so. I think that is super important and it should be enforced and taught a little bit more than it is right now. We started this interview talking about Owen. Sound I'd like to wrap up my portion of it. I don't know of Jeff has more talking about Owen sound and next year. This is a unique off season. You guys know you're not playing the rest of this year. We don't know what next year is going to look like if I had a crystal ball. I be buying lottery tickets. That's for sure. But Joey like how are you in? Dale and your staff preparing for the twenty twenty twenty one season. Not Knowing what it's GonNa look like. Yeah well like you said and I think it's a little bit unique compared to obviously the NHL because there's still hope that that those guys play but for us it's just business as usual that season that we lost is on the back burner. Now when we're looking forward and and scouting like I said the European draft We just had the major midget draft couple of weeks ago and And before that we had the the regular draft so it's just for US business as usual trying to do our due diligence and find out as much as we possibly can about different players and make good decisions for our organization so I don't think a ton is really changed for us. We're just like everyone else in the world just keeping our fingers crossed and hoping we can get back to normal life as soon as possible. Here's something then along. That vein was having a conversation. This weekend was someone from the GT AHL and we were talking about what happens if because a lot of the models right now are for hockey at the minor level To begin in January I think fall might be a long shot. Best case scenario perhaps January. And we're talking about what happens if the entire season is scrubbed for minor hockey and this person said to me I wonder because there are a lot of people that want this and there are a lot of people in the. Oh l. don't and this person said to me. I wonder if at the end of all of this if the season next year is scrubbed. Gtl I'M HA alliance. Whatever I wonder if it goes from a minor midget draft to a midget draft in the. Oh L. could you see that? Absolutely I could Jeff and you know what? I've never even thought of that that that hasn't even cross my mind once but that's extremely good point and I really couldn't see it any other way if we do lose an entire season We're obviously still going to need to draft those kids with that. Said we do have scouts watching Major Banham. So maybe they make us have a draft With limited viewings just from kids major Banham. But while that's a that's a really good shot and a really good question that I haven't put much much thought into myself but that's a great point. Okay dental on this one. Maybe you put some thought into this. One Owen Sound. The reputation is best fries in the. Oh L. Agree agree or disagree. Joey Haitian absolutely one hundred. Ten percent agree my My mom still talks about the fries at the Owen sound and our trainer Andy Brown every once in a while. We'll sneak over there before the game and And grab a large Friday for a few of us to try so yeah definitely some of the best crispy. French fries I've ever had in my life. All right very good reputation is well earned listened really quick before we wrap up a warning. Chance to to plug your. I know everything's on quarantine right now but give us a chance here to to let you promote yourself and what you're doing in the off season with your skills training surrogacy yeah. Can you hear my dog going? So we're kind of dog. You have joy. We got a border Collie Nice. Yeah so my My Skills Company is. I'm on Instagram at Skills Underscore Corp I mean. I'm working with a ton of guys in Stratford area. The London kitchener area and just trying to help them as much as I possibly can and achieve the goals that they want to achieve so it's been a ton of fun for me. I've been doing it for two years now and I'm really really enjoying it. It's it definitely keeps me busy in on my toes and and learning the business side of hockey as well so it's been a ton of fun and I'm really enjoying it was C- instagram again. Skills Underscore Corp perfect. Joey thanks so much for this guy continued success and look forward to talking to you again. Soon awesome guys. I really appreciate you have me Joey. Hisham Elliott one of those guys. You can't help but cheer for what's not to like what is absolutely not to like you can tell he loves the game. He's got a passion for coaching and he's got a great story. Like I always whenever I talk to players that have made that transition to coaching at the junior level or going back to coach even at minor hockey and you always say to yourself as a parent. How comfortable would you be saying? I'm going to let my kid leave home and play for this guy. Hundreds if not thousands of miles away when it comes to someone like Joey Hitchin as a pattern of hockey players. I'd say to myself I feel like my kids are in good hands. When we come back you will hear some great stories and get ready for some great laughs and already for a long interview tooks. We took a lot of time out of his day John Michael Lyles after the break of former. Nhl Defenseman thirty one. Elliot lots of John Michael Lyles former. Nhl Now turned broadcaster. And maybe turn podcast. We'll get to that in a couple of moments. John Michael House here On the PODCASTS. And just riffing a little bit before we. We started the podcast here John. You're a big podcast guy. Like you're a you're a new convert to the world of podcast. What do you have in your ear buds these days? Oh Man I'm a big fan of the outside podcast outside magazine I dislike the variety that they come with I've gone through a lot now that we live Good ways outside. Dan River a little over an hour hour half from media Denver. And so I I pretty much survive on podcast on on those commutes but Yeah Crime Junkies a big one new episode each podcast It's you know definitely interesting. My wife thinks a little sick for listening to that but You know you gotTa get through it somehow. Some golf casts You know the occasional spitting check. What's those guys are a riot wet? I've been on a couple of golf trips together. And now they they definitely bring breaks brings him good guests on and I I mean I'm kind of all over the spectrum one now when it comes to podcasts. Well since you didn't mention thirty one thoughts this interviews over. I distance myself from from hockey the last little while so. I can't say I have been listening to it but I I will. I will now okay. I I appreciate you bringing me on and now now I'LL BE IRREGULAR. All subscribe to when. When will we hear the John? Michael Lyles podcast. We talked about this before before we started. I just don't assign interesting enough or more. My the things going through my head or interesting enough to be a weekly thing. You'll have more of A. Oh Hey we're we're we're having a hard time finding a guest John. Michael hasn't talked to anybody while that's more my My sweet spot. I feel like I don't know that I'm interesting enough for people to to really WanNa hear what I have to say on a on a regular basis. Well you know I think if anything you could do an avalanche podcast like you've got some interesting guys on that team. You broadcast teams. Got Some interesting geyser. There's some interesting players there. That's where I think that people would like to hear some more about some of those skies. Yeah I mean they. There's a few I mean like Marc Mosier and Kyle Keefe. I think do one Carmen Gate. He's a part of that as well. I but they haven't done one regularly Rome yet steph have to commit to it. You have to yes exactly. Yeah and I've got two young daughters and right now. My brain is You know changing diapers and Tricking kids into eating vegetables. That's that's that's really what found out of my brain for the majority of the day so it'll be a parenting slash. Colorado Avalanche podcast. I'm trying to find that niche for here. Lost Ninety five percent of all our subscribers. Parenting I I gotTa tell you right now. Everybody is looking for parenting tips. Everybody so you said you have to bribe your kids first of all. Tell us about your kids. And secondly how do you bribe them to eat vegetables? Usually I hide it for the most part. I try and hide the vegetables. I Cook a lot. That's actually been one of my Quarantine things is is cooking kind of slows. Me Down a little bit and gives me something to focus on. So I've been cooking a lot on allied Italian. I'll puree the vegetables into something and that generally works. Although my younger daughter she is a year and a half she finds it pretty quick and then looks at me and spits it out and says no like A five year old will pretty much eat anything. But Yeah we're we're working on The younger one. That's the trick right now. We're getting creative with a lot of the the veggies and there's some days we just flat out just say don't worry about it we're done and she'll eat You know slice of bread and one apple and that's about all. Yeah okay so so and so far. If we're creating this podcast niche for John. We have a hybrid cooking parenting avalanche. Podcast this is poised to be the most unique podcasts on apple podcasts or spotify or whatever your platform is before we talk about hockey. I I do want to talk to you about the situation that it was going through right now with cove. Nineteen and. We're all a quarantined. And it's groundhog day for everybody and for some more profound than others because you and your wife went through a scare recently as well. Can you talk about that? Yeah my wife. Came Down with some pretty You know I don't know what I mean. Severe is relative. I guess Some some symptoms and we got hit were up Near Vail Colorado are valley. Hit Pretty hard early on with Cases just the number of tourists and people in and out and we We spiked pretty early. And so it was around in and we are fortunate. That testing was available because of that My Wife to get tested and I felt pretty sick. Prepare to that as well and and you know I mean mend mantle could have been any number of things that yeah. I didn't feel great. So we both get tested. Both tested negative thankfully on It's crazy thing about all of this is just seems to be in your mind no matter what you know every little cough every little body ache Is that is it? Covert or is it a cold or is it you know. It's cold and flu season at the same time. And so you're you're going through all these different Emotions and I had a good friend of mine Down at Denver's forty four and perfectly healthy with two young kids who was a ventilator for eight days I mean that's the scary part is is You know it's you know people say oh. It only affects the old. But you know I've got I've got perfectly good evidence of one of my best friends down there was Touching Gopher for a number of days thankfully he pulled through and he's back home now with his family but For the better part of twenty days he was he was he was not doing well. It's a scary time but You know we're all pretty healthy at the moment Two young kids and and just trying to make the most of of each day even if it does feel like groundhog day everyday. So so what does what does the day to day like then for you and your family like we all have. Everyone's got their own rhythm. Everyone's got their own pattern. What's yours So right now it's We're starting to get some warm weather up here in the mountains which is awesome so just You know wake up in the morning. Cook Breakfast for the girls in my five year olds Four and a half year. Old She She's in preschool in her preschool. As New Zoom Zoom classroom three times a day so her she has an eight thirty zoom call with her entire class and teachers which is Great. Because it definitely breaks up the day for us a little bit She's got an eight thirty a one fifteen and a three thirty which is awesome And then we usually try and get outside either ride bikes around our neighborhood in the driveway. You know really nothing crazy We are four and a half year. Just got a pedal bike. So that's been a big thing for her as she's She's Kinda jumped on that pretty well and so we we ride around and then launch. Get them down for a nap. And that's usually when I try and my wife and I try and get some sort of a workout in whether that's Peleton honor get outside and ride bikes Somewhere and do it all over again and get dinner ready and get him to bed about six thirty and then have a couple of glasses of wine. Tried sleep as best. I can to get ready for the next day that I don't know what day of the week next. Well you know. There's so many who places to start with you John. But here's the question. I WanNa know sports illustrated named you the NHL's Best Golfer and that was in two thousand thirteen okay. Witch Nhl player built your house man. I I don't know I it's tough because I I don't know I'm not a huge gambler I play. I played a lot with tyler. Bosak when when we were living in Denver Bose is a really good Golfer So key and I actually would go back and forth pretty well. I don't know I'm hoping he just had his third kid so I'm hoping that his golf game goes down because mine went down after I had my second kid Yeah Bosie and I played a lot. I I was fortunate. You know what my wife's sister My brother-in-law's a professional golfer. And he's actually he's Canadian. He played on the Canadian tour. And the web dot COM to our for a number of years and so I kind of lucked out in the in the the brother-in-law department where I would come home after the season and he'd be getting ready for his season and so he would just give me lessons and and I went from like an eight handicap to a one handicap in one summer because of him and I was always a decent golfer and I wasn't afraid to go to the range for hours on end. But when he and I became a brother lost my golf game Kinda just went off the charts and so that I you know I get a lot of credit to him on on that. What's his name? His name's James lobbies from Calgary Nam. He went to University of Denver Or Denver University. Whatever and see how we We ended up marrying sisters and so he just retired a year ago but wanted a tournament on the Canadian tour A number of years ago. And then you know playing Canadian tour for seven or eight years Webb Dot com to her for two or three years. I caddied farm in a number of events. Awesome guy and At Stephanie. Hi tried it my golf game to him. I'll say that. What was your worst caddying moment in terms of picking the wrong club? That really didn't go Taking the wrong club but You know we we. I always defer to him. Because he's I mean he you know he knows exactly what's going on with swing and and whatnot You know we had a couple of of disagreements on the course where I was trying to get him into the right head space that he basically told me where I could go on. There was one time in the Colorado Open. I was counting for him and I think he hit a wedge shot that he didn't like and he took his wedge and smashed it into the bag and it was a stand bag. It's broke the stand and broker and so I couldn't put the wedge back in the bags we had nine holes left and so I had to carry a broken wedged broken bag for the remaining nine holes that may be that might have been our worst star toughest moment. That was the last time you caddied for him to. I think. Actually it was lost. I always tell them I'm ready available. But he he's he's been going with some other people and had some success. I think you finished Second in Colorado open he plays this local events now around Denver in Colorado and I think he finished second call open last year. Yeah I I was not invited to caddy Jonah. What am I taking this back to Indianapolis and for the longest time it was? I remember talking to him about this when he when he played in Toronto. It was Ken CLEA and Ken. Cle- was the NHL are from Indianapolis period. And he did everything. It took Everything he could to try to get out he would San. Marie told me he sent like tons of letters to various places as you know as as soon as a preteen to try to get to hotter spots to play hockey ended up playing with the same. Mike's buzzers In Ontario. So he was like the guy from Indianapolis and then it's quiet and then boom Jamaica lyles and boom Jack Johnson describe hockey in Indianapolis for us. And you have a thought or two on Ken. Cle- Oh man clinically. Can't he's an awesome Guy Man? I I love playing with him. He definitely made sure that. I never got too cocky Which was tough to do Especially early my career He I believe he he called me Super Rook Was My was my nickname. And he wasn't afraid to use it Liberally see we had a thing with Kenny. Cloudy and it was funny. 'cause Joel Quenneville was coach at the time and Kenny had a had a big for icing the puck and we started a countdown. Or a tally of how many games in a row. Kenny is the pocket he gave the whole bench would be gone crazy at Joel. Quenneville would be going crazy to generally. It was the first or second shift. You Know Joe would be laughing on the bench. The whole band should be die laughing at Kennywood. Give a little wave over the batch man. He was an awesome guy. Great Great Defense and Hockey Indianapolis I was fortunate growing up the team that I played on wanted to play AAA hockey in the parents wanted to play AAA hockey and the kids were into it and so we joined the Michigan National Hockey League and played in Michigan and played in Chicago regularly and we we constantly traveled Around there and outside. I mean. They're just there weren't really any other teams in the state of Indiana to play and so we were constantly traveling parents a lot of credit to my dad and my mom and all the other parents involved. They were Do they wanted to play the best competition? I mean we got our teeth kicked in a lot but After a good solid year of the struggles that come with AAA hockey. When you're from Indiana I mean we became competitive and we could go to Toronto and and play in tournaments and be somewhat competitive and be really competitive with Michigan National League against some really really great teams out of Detroit and Chicago and that was the one thing I always tell. People growing up in. Indiana wasn't wasn't like we could just drive five minutes and play a team drive thirty minutes in play a team and we we we were. We're constantly traveling. You know going to play the best competition and and You know I look back and you know. Just thank my parents and and the other parents involved for the commitment that it took to do that after you started. You Know Jack Johnson. Although he was born Indianapolis Hugh moved to Michigan. Cam Schilling was an Indiana Guy. Zach Trotman was an Indiana guy yet charts and I actually played in Boston together. It was kind of funny talking talking with him at. Did he ever tell you anything? Like yeah I saw you play when or I followed your career and said I can do that. I'M I've had a couple of people telling me that I don't know trots was one of those people I mean. It's you know Indianapolis Hockey is small. So for myself and Kennedy cle- adapt Johnson. The have our our names You know our our birthplaces and hometowns be in the Anna. I mean it's definitely. I take a lot of pride in that. I mean I grew up in Indiana. Was there through prep school and then went to the program when I was sixteen years old so I was born and raised in and played. India Net Indiana occupied prep school at Culver Military Academy for my first two years of high school and And that's Northern Indiana and You know I don't live there now my family's all still back there but You know it's It means a lot to me and I still don't take a lot of pride in the fact that I came from Indiana. And it's it's awesome. It's funny you mentioned Jack Johnson. I I taught Jack Johnson Hockey school at Culver Summer Camp. When he was like eleven years old I was a counselor. And it's it's funny now looking back you know. I had interactions with his parents. I tried to get him to go to call. Revenue went to shattuck and I try to get a go Michigan State. He went to Michigan. Obviously it worked out for us but my best friend and I were the counselors For the hockey camp there in the summer. And we're like are you kidding me. How good is this kid? He was eleven years old and he's twelve years old playing with like fifteen sixteen year. Old Kids there. I mean he was. He was dominant at that age against kids much older and bigger and stronger than maybe. He was really impressive. Was always the Blue Line for you John. No it wasn't no I was. I was a terrible fourth line forward up until about eighth grade and I Actually seventh grade. I had a coach. Tell me that I would never be anything more than a fourth line. Forward and in eighth grade I got cut from the AAA team in Indiana and play Aa and it was honestly one of the best years of of my hockey career because I had an amazing coach that came in from you. Actually I think coached in coaching. And the assistant coach in the L. I think his wife was doing her residency in. Indianapolis and so. He came and coach our team. And I played defense on the power play and then forward and then when I went to cover the next year and I just it was one of those things. Everything Kinda clicked on my skating. A lot better I got some confidence. And this guy's name Rob Kirsch. She actually lives in Vancouver now and still to this day. A really good friend of my dad's in mind just he kind of told me you know how it was and what I would need to do to succeed. And then the next year I went to call and they said you're going to play defense and I play defense that whole year and then kind of the rest is history. I was just you know a skating defenseman from then on out before we get resume your hockey career. I have one final Indianapolis question. True or false. Your Dog's name is manning yes true. That was He passed he was Oh sorta here that a year. That's I mean. Hey he was thirteen years old he was he had a great life but yes his name was man and and we've already promised my Four and a half year old that we can get another dog named manning here once the Quarantine ends well. That's okay because manning won a super bowl with the Broncos so that's why I now is what I would say. I grew up a colts. Fan and It's funny that Oh six. Afc Championship game fell over all star break that year. They won the Super Bowl and so I flew back and saw man in B- Brady in the AFC championship game that year and then they went on to win the Super Bowl. Manning is my dog's name. We will have another dog named Manning at some point here soon. I love it okay. Another non hockey question then so. I texted one of your former teammates last night. I said when I say John Michael Lyles what comes to your mind right away and he just wrote back to words online shopping. Oh God it's was one hundred percent had to be posed as it's not pulsed. Asni but I want to get the post as you but it's Okay Oh man Yes there was a time where I Did Not have kids and online shopping was my thing. I don't know why it was. I don't it was just something that that I I probably got a little bit too into but Yeah that was the two words. I can't believe it online. What what what was I? If you can recall any weird purchases that you look back on now and you say man. What was I thinking? I can just see picture you crush Nordstrom rack. Yeah you know what it was. It was it was guilt. You remember the website guilt. Lt Houston Yeah. That was. That was a big one in. Unfortunately I would sometimes have a few too many drinks and then I would order those things and I would remember ordering them and then I would come home from a road trip and there'd be like ten boxes outside my door. It's not something I'm very proud of. The funny thing is is I never dressed all that well at the time. I'd looking back on some of these pictures. My wife went through pictures the other day. Because that's what union quarantine. I need some of the picture she found. I'm like what am I thinking and I know I ordered on guilt and I'm just I thought it was. You know look great online or whatever of there wasn't a ton of weird stuff at the time I got like you know. I played a territory. John he was big wine. Guy Played with Matthew Lombardi. Who was a big wine? Guy Cam Ward huge wind got I actually got into wine pretty big and was ordering wine online a lot. Which right now. It's paying off a lot because I'm opening these bottles that I heard ten plus years ago and I'm definitely enjoying no so are you not the weirdest but at the same time thinking back. I'm like I ordered that you know. I don't know where I was playing in Toronto or something and decided to order these six bottles a now. I'm opening one of the sex and they're pretty damn good I wanted to ask you about surrendering number twenty six. Oh Yeah how did that go? Well side played on the APPS for a couple of years in twenty six. It was my first number in training camp and I just ran with it it. It was great. I wore four from about my ninth grade year. All the way through college. Obviously Rob. Blake was number four when I went came to Colorado. I had twenty six. I actually enjoyed it. I liked it And so I just kept wearing. It didn't think anything of changing the four. When Blakey laughed and Paul made the team I think he was twenty five at the time. I Have Known Paul and his family actually for a long time. Since I was about fourteen fifteen years old he was neighbors of the guy that I played with on the national program and we would go to Saint Louis all the time to his house When the season entity is his dad played the NHL And so we go down there. They had a great setup. And we you know five six seven of us will go down there and I always knew yon styles and his brother and his dad and so I know Paul for a long time. I knew Peter was a hall of Famer. I didn't realize that he wore twenty six. And so Steve Connell. Chuck on the ads at the time kind of pulled me aside about a month into the season and he was like. Hey have you thought about giving Paul Twenty six and I was just Kinda like oh no why he goes well. His Dad was a hall of Famer wearing twenty six for the nordiques and I was like. Oh my gosh. I had no idea I knew Paul War. Twenty six calls but I didn't realize the significance of it saw I kinda approached Zolkin Ville at the time and equipment managers and management just said. Hey I asked Paul I I said Hey. Would you WanNa wear twenty six? And we were made. We played instrumental in and we had a day off. We're going to Montreal. And he goes. Oh man that'd be awesome and so I called Rob Blake and said. Hey Blakey do you care? I know you just left. But I wore for You're a big reason. Why do you care if I switched to four? I'm GONNA GIVE STATS TWENTY. Six and Blake. And he's like no absolutely that's awesome. Thank you for calling. You didn't have to do that but I appreciate it so I switched to four. Paul took twenty six We were playing in Montreal. The next night I believe and I don't think you had a goal yet at that point. I think we are nine or ten games in the season and of course he scored first game wearing twenty six. He scored a lot of goals. Since then. But I mean it's kind of funny how it works out. Its last night. We were in each other's weddings. Really good friends actually. Did a House party call with him and a few other former avs the other actually on Saturday night. That's what you do in quarantine you get your your buddies to get as I you know. I am surprised that when STAS scored Steve Connell Wall. Chuck didn't grab you and say why didn't you think of this earlier because he's a guy that way? I think Carlino took credit for the whole thing for the rest of the year. I mean that's just you know it's Kinda McConnell thing to do the thing about that and I want to into a story one of the things I remember most about your career. Am is treat people right. And I'm a big believer in Karma. If you treat people right you get treated right. And I remember the outdoor game in Ann Arbor Toronto Against Detroit. But I thought this was a great story. Because you knew you were getting traded and they were trading you and the maple leafs said to you you know. Do you want to take the warm up and I just remember. I was working that game and You skated off after the warm up and the trade came down in the middle of the first period but I just thought it was the right way to treat somebody who treats people well. I mean I knew. There was the possibility of a trade the night before my agent Joe Resnick had had called me and said hey you know there may be a trade. Tom In you know it's it's not we're not sure yet but I was like okay. I just remember when they said Hey We think it's going to go through. Do you want us? They'll take warm up? I think it was dave known us or or I can't even remember might have Nonni and I just said Yeah Hell you WanNa take warm up like if I'm not gonNA play the game. I want to go out there. I mean it was probably the best warm up my career and And I remember skating to the red line in stopping and on the reds tile quincy who is a good buddy of mine and Drew Miller. Who Ryan is brother is one of my best friends and I'm good buddies withdrew and they will stop and they're like hey what's going on. I'm like oh I just got traced and they're like no way and so when we when I finished warm up on Ice skated off. And when you go up the tunnel there you actually walk side by side with the opposing team into the tunnel and drew and quince. Both had gotten off at the same time. And there's a picture of me going up the tunnel with drew Miller over my shoulders Because I just you know. I've told them whatever ten minutes earlier that I was getting traded. And so you know it's just kind of a cool shot with Ryan and I'm we live together in college and after college and still one of my best friends to this day and it was just a definitely a surreal moment You know something that on the avalanche broadcast. They're definitely not afraid to bring up any chance. Winter Classic is mentioned. They They bring up. Who's the only person get traded after warm ups to deal with that on a regular basis? Oh my God I'm sorry I brought it up all right. It's a claim to fame. You could say as a defenseman an offensive defenceman is as you were in the. Nhl What do you think when you see Kale Macara play tore my goodness and man? It's it's so impressive to see him come into the League do what? East on On somebody said this to me last year when I was working in the playoffs they said you know he was three steps ahead in college and he still one step ahead coming into the. Nhl is kind of the best description. Somebody gave an and I thought that that really you know resonated he's just tremendous skater Obviously a great kid. Great Leader But you can see how much trust the team has how much it's grown in him. Since the beginning of the year you know you look at like a Nathan MacKinnon and Nathan MacKinnon arguably top two three in the world. He's not afraid to give the puck up to Kalama car On a rush or on the power play because he knows he's getting it back and I think that says a lot because you know nate can arguably do it by himself a lot of times but knowing that you have that weapon back there and not to mention rant in Atlanta Skog and Kadri now and all these different guys but knowing that you have that weapon back there and a guy that is good enough to find you and find you through two or three people a lot of times. I mean it's really impressive and I would. I think I was working a game where he set the record for rookie defensive for the ADS which I used to hold and certainly seventy-nine names to get numb. I think the point. I thirty four my rookie year. So seventy nine games to get thirty four points. It took him forty. That pretty much sums up where he's a jam when you see McKinnon the Ucla up-close you watch him at practice things like that. Would you see there that those of us who only watch them on TV don't see I've had the privilege of seeing him on the Ice Never played with them but seeing on the ice seem in practice. I played golf a few times. 'cause you know said does camp up near where we are prior to the season nate. Always here I'm played golf with Sid a few times and there's a lot of similarities there and obviously they're really good friends from the same place. train together in the summers. And you know I I think a lot of what said does and has done has rubbed off on nate and you can see it He is competitive. He is as competitive as they common. And I just look at a guy like Joe sack One of my good friends and a guy that I played a lot of golf with over the years and he he jokes around and act like he doesn't care but he is one of the more competitive people you'll ever meet and he doesn't WanNa come across that way but you see it in how he prepares for each shot and I'll give him a little bit you know and and and he you know he kinda tries to shrug it off but you know that it's there and you know that he's never out of a hole and I see that a lot in nate as well. He wants to win everything. It doesn't matter what it is. He wants to win and he's gone about training and preparing to do just that to be the best player in the world and and you know what it doesn't hurt having a Sidney crosby Arguably the best player in the world for a long time as your chain partner and the guy that you're competing against on you know day in day out basis through throughout the summer I love watching Avalanche Games like that's like I refer to them as as speed bump games as you're flipping around from one game to another the minute. The avs game is on you. Just put the remote control down and you want to watch for a long time because it's spectacular N- like flat out is just fun but I still don't have a sense. How close this team is. I really don't know your lot closer to it than I am. How closer the avs I mean? I think they're pretty close. Joe Sacco started really really good job of building this team and not sacrificing long-term. I think you know they haven't given up a ton of assets to get guys made some really good signings in free agency. Some really good trades as well. I think they're close. I think you could say there. Maybe one or two pieces away. Maybe one more defense. But you've had some guys step up as well. I mean Ryan Graves is a is a perfect example of that a guy that maybe a late bloomer but I mean leaving the NHL in plus minus you know he's been paired with Calma car for the majority of the last part of the season and played extremely well and compliments him really. Well I think they are. I think they're really close in. Joe Knows I mean. I've talked to Joe about this. And he knows. I mean they're in a you. Know the the six or seven year Nathan Mackinnon Window and you have a die like that On top of his game in his prime you know your core is young. You've added Qadri. You've got land sky. You've got Raymond under contract. You've got Gerard under a really good contract. No they kinda hover around the top of the League right now chasing. Saint Louis a little bit. I think they could be walking away with the West. If maybe a one or two pieces fall into place this off season whenever that is I want to ask you a two part question here. One I want to get your thoughts on jared Kushner Who's been as a coach? Winner at at every single level is widely successful coach and now has Colorado poised to do some great stuff. And you've had some pretty unique coaches yourself Over the years John who were or who was your favourite coach. And if you could share a thought on on Jared Kushner as well that'd be great. Oh man okay. So jared bed Nair and I mean he. Just he steve's to get the best out of every player and ultimately you know I think I don't know if it's John Cooper that said this. He's coaching a team. But he's also managing twenty three individual personalities. And you know that's a big part of it is is. How do you get the most out of each and every player? You can't just hammer a guy in into a hole and say this is what you are all the time. And you know. Nate is Nathan MacKinnon Super Competitive and a guy that You know I think demands a lot of the coaches and the players around him but you know he steps up to the plate each and every night and so it's You Know Jerry Bedroom House to to work with that as well as you know. You Got Lantis with captain working with him I think he has the respect of of the players and he lets them play but at the same time knows when to win the pull on the reigns a little bit. And that's kind of what I've seen just from outsiders perspective I don't have I'm not like I said I'm not in the locker room a ton but just talking with people around the organization easy very well liked and very well respected and then my favorite coachman. It's tough because I You know I've had a lot of good ones Joel Klein. Bo was a great coach. Great players coach You know he and I bought heads here and there but I think a lot of times. That can happen an end when you know when when you have a coach him and then you know key leaves. I think sometimes you realize just how good you had it. He was awesome. I really liked Bruce Cassidy in Boston. That was that was the tail end of my career. You know it was only the last few months but for me. At that point I had a bad concussion. Juliana just got fire in bushy came in and but she was open and honest and communicative and and basically just you know it was. It was a good way for me to finish my career. I loved playing in Boston that last year and a half and she was a really good coach for me to finish with even though I wasn't playing every game I really liked Just what he brought to the table you know each and every day and it was you know much needed. We were in a row At that time and you know it was possible. We weren't GonNa make the playoffs that year. We went on a heck of a run under him and a lot of that is credit to kind of how he approached. Judge each day with the guys and and we lost auto in the first round but getting in was wasn't accomplishment that year for sure that's outstanding. Listen we've taken a lot of your time today. I know you'll say on quarantine I've got nothing else to do. But you've got two kids. It gave me a break from the two kids. I was personally ready to ring my neck right now. It's okay that's going to happen. During the pandemic anyway does the cost of doing business in the pandemic. Thanks so much for stopping. Might today much appreciated. Yeah thank you guys for having me. That was great Elliott Friedman main takeaway from that interview with John. Michael Lyles was what first of all I think he's a really easy. Guide liked to He's a guy. I've pitched. Brian spirited do some hockey night games. I'm I think he's really smooth. I think he's really funny. I think he's very natural at it. I HAVE TO SAY JEFF. Your question about the online shopping. That caught me. And I'll tell you why because I'm a guy is subscribed to a whole bunch of like online shopping portals and I'm always flipping through the emails this sale that sell flash sale and I'm not that bad especially now like I mean we're all you know saving money now but I'm always flipping through it. I'm always flipping through all and get closed. You put something in the cart and then you're like this doesn't make any sense. Why am I looking for a double stretch? Medium double excess shirt and you know but I have that gene like what he's talking about that? I have been that guy so I really liked that. I thought that was good. Well who amongst us hasn't just you know sat in front of the computer late at night. Drank a bottle of wine may be taken an Ambien or two and then woken up with eight thousand dollars worth of parcels in front of our house. The next morning I know it's really unbelievable. It's kind of funny Totally likeable guy and We took a lot of his time. And we really appreciate it Listen that was a lot of fun. And I know these podcasts. Have Been Long Elliott. But listen everybody's in quarantine and so far. The feedback has been positive. But again if you like in the length send it if you're not present. Hey guys it's too much. I'm getting sick Send that in as well. So far the feedback spin. Okay though for each you know what at the end of the day like we've talked about this? It's not easy time and I just want people to have something to listen to that they enjoy and makes them laugh and think about something else. Like you know what I was thinking about today Jeff. What's that I can't wait to see the losers I work with again? Really which losers specifically so affectionately referred to you and also I but also you know Burkey Ryan Caroline Cassie Kelly the people behind the scenes spears e Matt Marham Broderick Amber. I mean you guys are all losers but I can't wait to see again. I miss all those people. All My crew from From a surfing all the hockey central guys tonight hockey crew various radio properties that. I'm involved in to goof balls and a guy by the name of Steve Mickelson whenever a camera operators you know why miss they've because every couple of weeks and on trade deadline I think brick? You may have eaten the whole cup. That didn't have a single one. He brings these purple candies. He's purple chewy candies that he gets in bulk to the set as a as a bribe to all of us honestly. Have you had these purple candies that he brings yes? They're excellent Steve. I can't wait to get back just for you. And the Purple Candy so I know exactly Elliott what you're talking about Behalf for our crew here Elliott Friedman and Amil Delic Thanks so much for listening to this. Very lengthy to our podcast and an apology to our producer. Amel who we continue to saddle with longer and longer podcasts. It's not like he doesn't already have his plate full with Richards podcast Donovan And assorted other pods and duties. He has We have to saddle them with to our podcast every week. So Amil thank you. Your best in the Biz. Emma really appreciate it back in seven days for more thirty one to podcasts. Thanks for joining us this week. The gunman in the horrific Nova Scotia shooting killed eighteen. Innocent people tonight. We are remembering the victims of this senseless tragedy. Joelene OLIVER EMILY. Tuck an errand. Tuck were found dead in their home yesterday on the ball of this. I think the worst tragedy. I'm just glad that they got together. Situation possible separate in the lawyer and I just feel for the families and really charge. Look through that. That's there's people sister niece and my brother-in-law among the dead to healthcare workers. Heather O'Brien was a licensed practical nurse. Wife Mother and grandmother. Kristen beaten was a continuing care assisted and a young wife and mother. Lisa mccully an elementary school teacher also killed there's so much agony from the investigation and the silence around to among the houses destroyed by the fire set by the gunman one belonging to John's Owl Elizabeth. Joel Tons Sean. Mcleod in Atlanta Jenkins were correctional officers. Gina Goulet a fifty four year. Old who battled cancer twice before her life was taken Sunday. Corey Ellison described as generous soul. Always willing to help and Joey Weber. A father of three committed was found. Jamie and Greg Blair a married couple who were business. Owners Franken Don Monson Don had recently retired and the pair moved to Nova Scotia from Ontario. Heidi Stevenson the beloved RCMP. Officer who served twenty three years on the force. She was a mother of two.

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230: Islanders Coach Says The Picks They Gave Up For Pageau Are Nothing; Villains Make Sports Better

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230: Islanders Coach Says The Picks They Gave Up For Pageau Are Nothing; Villains Make Sports Better

"The S. WPA is a presentation of RB computing and All Insurance Ontario. I can't think of a better way to spend time the waiting on hold for hours to get mediocre customer service. Just kidding that sounds awful at all insurance group insurance never more than a quick text away text me at eight six zero six zero zero eight or visit all INS dot ca all insurance Ontario. Your modern boutique broker. Everyone welcome to another episode of the W. P. Podcast presented by all Insurance Ontario rb computing every weekday. Jim and I discussed the biggest stories in sports and whatever it is the grabs our attention which frequently is non sports stuff And Limited attention span may be. I'm Steve Wore Long. Jim Jerome and as always we welcome a Bush from you. The good listener he and L. Past keep rolling. These shows out daily by considering a membership in the shell costs as little as a single cup of coffee once a month. Big Three today Henry. Backer Josh Morgan and Canadian. Most calcitonin subscribe Lee. Nice Review share the show as much as possible so lots to get to over the course of the show today. Thank you for being with us. We hope you enjoyed the show. James how are you buddy over rely? What what what are you doing? What are we talking about what I just said? Hi How you doing? What's attention span? That's what you had mentioned. I love doing that to you. I just let me who. What's Squirrel Squirrel? You're going Jim Jim. All this energy and momentum out of the gate here we go big. Show this what's happening. Boom Boom Boom John. Wooden was mentioned. Attention Span my little play. Gotcha our thinks. Stevie things are fine brother. How are you good? Yeah Great Non Snowmageddon here in the Ottawa Ontario Canada region. Yikes as we record this right now. I have seen reports that we might get as much as fifty centimeters before all. This is fifty centimeters. Yup Jesus Pretty Wide Swath. I've seen little twenty-five five as much as fifty. I don't believe that way. Where is this? A classic isn't what Holy Jesus for is a classic? I assume it's up north where there's no hope otherwise that reference would be totally stupid. Zante chilly Oh yeah. It's a dry snowfall steep. It's a dry snow fall. It's not good enough the snowfall. It's everybody's fault here because everybody over the last few days have been say what a winter has been so mild and it's it's all our faults. Well I'll tell you what Steve. It's spring it's coming up in a week or so are into March anyway and I'll tell you what's up Steve. Okay so I get pissed when I hear you know players complain about the game especially especially when individually? They complain about the game. And now you've got this guy for Minnesota Stefan digs are one of their best players. Okay signed a five-year seventy two million dollar deal and he starts to delete all his pictures of the Vikings on his instagram. And some reported gets wind of this thing and goes to his teammates and say does this guy wanted out. Is there something? That teammates aren't sure if he's going to come into camp next year so they go to dig Stevie Okay and they tell ask him about this room. He goes well. There's truth to all rumors and he ends up being totally dissatisfied. Steve with the passing game of Minnesota and he's had over thousand yard Steve Three three years in a row. And make seventy two mil over the five years. Ten million and now says unwanted trade me shut up even your sport like the PGA. It feels like a diva attitude has started to emerge there you think about Patrick read. We've talked about him. Quite a bit and Brooks Kapka is certainly another guy that is brought that sort of diva. The guy is all world as far as talent might be the best there is but I mean the guy just says whatever he wants and doesn't mind whose feathers get from the thing. I'm looking like this week. To cover cover of magazine might not be the cover. But I'm looking at it online. So story about Brooks Kapka and it features Brooks Kapka basically on the front of a yacht where he's kind of dressed a little bit like hugh hefner would with just the the pajamas and the Nice job got the dark sunglasses. And he's got grass laid out on top of the front of the yacht so that he can hit balls off of that. Right it comes with the headline Brooks kept thinks. Sport is boring. If you're the commissioner you must be losing your crap over this guy well and then. Isn't there a story about this breakaway tour? Yeah it's called the Premier Gulf League and the Premier Gulf League is a rival league. And he will rory mcilroy said. Nope don't like it. Don't like what I'm hearing about it. So He's already kind of condemned the concept as they came out with the news of it last week it goes. I don't know I'm just going to play with the best players play. So he's impartial about it but he certainly didn't dismiss the idea that yeah if everybody went to the PG also would I well you know what else I read? I read a little bit about that. Okay I don't like Brooks kept guy you know. But he's good he's good he's like he's just annoying and full of himself so full of himself that he said. I read a piece of this morning that he said you know if someone off. I don't need money I could retire today. I got lots of money if someone offered me. Two hundred million doesn't matter you know he's just making a mockery just making a mockery of other fans. Steve you know and it's one again jazz with the Thornton example. It's one thing to think it. Of course you get X. amount of money. It stops being the priority. That is that it is for the. You know nine to five Johnny lunch buckets but we'll still doesn't inspire anybody when you say crap like that so keep it to yourself especially in the Sports Steve in sport in golf where they they they bow down to the superstars they let them pick and choose events they don't they don't demand very much from them at all and if you look at Wayne Gretzky okay in his career if they asked him about it okay if they tried to get controversial with Wayne about the NHL or negotiating he would say listen. Because I've heard him do it. Numerous times we play in the best league in the world and I wouldn't. I wouldn't WANNA go anywhere else. And it's it's a wonderful life and we should be kissing the fucking ground that we walk on. I've never heard Gretzky saying anything bad about the sport of hockey like ever and it's it's it's an easy thing to do too because you know if you're really into yourself you'd be really protective of your era and you'd say things like. Oh my gay. My Day was way better than it is now with all this systems based stuff. There's not as much fun and entertainment in the context of a game. Which is what. By the way I tend to believe a little Bot- Wayne. Gretzky is every opportunity to protect ground and his era but he never does that he always says you know Ovechkin GonNa break my record. The game is never been better. The athletes have never been better. Entertainment is never been better. But meanwhile I got Brooks Kepco in this sport that he's been you know just made him a kajillions air. He's calling his league boring and it's almost like it should be a penalty that I gotta get on the phone with this brick brooks kept go. Hey Dude you know what you know we. We're we're GONNA fucking suspend you you imagine if you're a fan steve and you hear that. Shit. It's hard to embrace brooks kept. It's hard to embrace the things he says and it would certainly enrage me if I'm trying to run the sport but at the same time could there be because we always like in the concept of storytelling or watching something play out. We enjoy the black cat. You know I it adds to something. Now we've got a guy to cheer against and he's always going to be near the top of the leaderboard. He's going to be that guy that goal fans. Don't like and maybe in a backhanded sort of way. Maybe it's not a bad thing necessarily for Gulf. There's a silver lining into the the behavior that he has because there is a real sameness. I think egg we can agree that there's a real sameness of PGA players like across the tour. Like eighty percent of the geyser pretty much nondescript pretty much cookie cutter that's right. What what the issue is going to be in? It's a real deal that the poor. Pga has to deal with is the Middle East right is growing exponentially for tourism. Okay Dubai the United Arab Emirates rate is just off the map with with what they're doing. I've watched some videos over there. With with the hotels they're building and the and the Shopping malls and shit like that and because they've got platoons of cash so they got this tournament their right to have this Saudi Arabia open or whatever it is which is a breakaway league Which is part of it. And and they give everyone guaranteed money there. They build a golf course. Stephen a town and city that they're going to create. They put the golf course there. I Okay I saw that tournament that they had a few weeks ago you see an aerial shot of it. Steve. It's completely barren desert except for this golf course and so the PGA has got that nightmare. You know these guys say okay you. Can you give a guy you know million four for winning a tournament? We'll give them five million over here right and minimum two hundred grand for a guy who plays his last right there so they got a real issue. There gets a little hockey talk here in our RV computing web pulled today is do you consider trading Jj Pasha to the New York islanders to enact of quote insanity and I use that quote because a lot of people were fired up a story in the Ottawa citizen by Kelly. Egan today and the headline read k. You take show. We'll take patients the insanity of moving number forty four and so a lot of people reacted to it and so I thought I'd Kinda dovetail on that story and make it. Our Web. Poll is insanity to get rid of a guy like Pashto. Oh for picks like Berry Trots for example as I mentioned in the last episode he said Pics Nothing Tons Picks. Don't work out Glenn. Walton writes good sponsor to the program. Thank you Glenn Not at all doesn't think it's Insanity Taizhou is over achieving this year won't repeat the season again and we got good value in the deal. Lt Rights Insane is not the word. I use potentially reckless. Jj is a role model for young players. Stone was as well. We're loading up for the future and we don't have any players left to teach the kids the right way to play the game big rights if they don't get that first round pick than yes but Dorian got the best in this deal. I love Pashto and this team in fan base will miss him badly but Alexi frontier will hopefully help us get over it. Michael Hammond says it's insanity no but dangerous. Yes at some point. This team has to give young fans heroes. They can hang onto. This guy would have been a great hometown hero. Richard A says as a Fan. I want to connect to the team and I am adamant that. A youth movement needs veterans to lead the way five years of horrible results standing wise last three in the next to at least is insanity. Pasha would-be a wonderful piece to help steer us out of this ditch and Matt from tolkien audio a rebuilding team with a twenty seven year old role player having a career year on the back of a show a rebuilding team with a twenty seven year old role player having a career year on the back of a shooting percentage bender with plenty of miles on them even the thought of keeping him and not cashing out when asset value is at its highest. Is Insanity. Thank him for His Service. You take the picks and run and it's always the hardest thing to do if you're a general manager what is the Golden Rule of business. Buy Low Sell High. And that's what the sends did there. They sold high and they got a lot for him and if we all love. J. G. Show but and there's a chance that it might be something that the says come to regret depending on who they get in the first round depending on what. Jj Pozo is going to be on a real contender right here. Got Opportunity to play top line minutes. I'm not sure the islanders will necessarily give him those so I understand why both teams made this trade. That's how I feel about the whole thing and I certainly don't have the venom of calling it insanity. Anyway thanks for everybody for their comments and their tweets the RB computing web poll lives at twitter at tsn. Steve are computing's the polls presented by RB computing. They've been helping Ottawa with their. It needs bigger small for over twenty years now and right now check out the new Microsoft surface pro seven the twelve inch touchscreen to one laptop that's ultralight and versatile with the all day battery life. Stevie VISIT RB COMPUTING DOT com today or see them in bells corners at six. Minton place suite two three five. That's RB COMPUTING. Ottawa's trusted it solution provider deed stem F S. wbz heads up. And it's a little something something for those who listen to the show the same day. It's published that being Thursday February twenty seventh. 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They got a first round draft pick and a second round draft pick plus a conditional third round of the probably will pan out but Trott said what a great pickup by Lou. I'd be the GM Lula Morello. The draft picks or nothing. I can tell you that a lot of picks play. That's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How can you possibly say the draft picks are nothing the entire league? The bottom half in particular is always looking for first round draft picks. Yes of course they can maybe be picks that don't pan out but come on. Don't come into the draft. Picks me nothing. That's just the dumbest thing. Yep No problem no problem there Trotsky. Okay we'll give you your first pick in the fuck and fourteenth round no sweat. That's great because you know teams are this just in Berry trucks. This just in teams are dying dying to get guys in the first round okay. That's a huge issue. Okay in fact so big that. They thought they had the right idea. That place last okay. Every year you get the first pick and they said well. This is brutal because believe me. Steve. I've talked to front office. Guys at hockey teams are on. Their team is not gonNA make the playoffs and they win a game. I was sitting with a guy who's gone off. Fuck you guys. Dial it back. You know you're right so they had to fix that right because well because the obvious reason. Woah boys will bury trots needs to send more first round draft picks than I need to do. More deals with him and he can keep giving me first rounders. You know what even for the show delays retroactively since they don't mean anything since you just throwing them on the garbage go ahead and send us your twenty twenty one first round draft pick and the next one after that is well like just. Don't come at me with that first. Rounders he absolutely they occasionally don't work out. But you know what what else occasionally? It doesn't work out. Guys you acquire in these deals. Jj Padua I think it'd be great but who knows you might get him blowing his knee or something and say oh. I wish we had our first rounder back. Speaking of injuries in the like your Toronto Maple leafs. Yeah so not mine. They've Lost Jake Muhsin. They've already lost. So Morgan Riley's out. I guess he skating again but no you know. He's not expected back anytime in the immediate future. Cody CECE who I've never been a fan of As a defenseman in the NHL He's also injured and where they're at right now. You would upgrade them and now jake. Muslim is going to be gone for a month. This is already a blue team that is hanging on for dear life and Jake. Muhsin is going to be out for four weeks he I guess. blocked a shot with his hand on Tuesday night and so he scored his sixth goal of the year before we left the game. And so they've had to call up. Kelly Rosen from the marlies and this is a club right. Now that I think is a two point lead as we record this playoffs. GonNa I think I'm at a stage now where I'm going to declare that the leaves are not making the playoffs going to ask you about who you think's going to do that. You know what that injury that four weeks for Muhsin I think it came about eight seconds after he signed a four-year deal Yup with with Toronto. You know it's it's like what happened tonight. Yeah Grayson a four year deal on Monday. And we're fucking leave Steve. The poor leaves us all. I don't I don't imagine I'll lose too much sleep over it. Well all you leave fans got to get you know. Is there anything more they could do for you? If you're a LEAF HATER. Which there's many trolls many of you out there right. What more do you want them to do? You know over and above them missing the Stanley Cup since nineteen sixty seven. I think missing the playoffs. When you've got you know so much money. Invested in three is like these are the move you make when you feel like you've got you know you're on the doorstep to winning Stanley and you've invested all this insane money into well amazing young. Ford's who are just fabulous skilled. But are they robust enough? Do they care enough? Do they want to pay the price enough and sacrifice enough to win a Stanley Cup? New Zealander Monir Matthews. Oh my God of a skilled. Oh my God. However this. Just in the two-month slog that is the Stanley Cup playoffs the two months going into the playoffs. Final part of the regular season which are also brutally tough because everybody's laying trying last-ditch attempts to make the playoffs. These are not for the faint of heart and I would wonder with length of these deals and the money that goes into these deals. Wow they have a lot of soft skill in Toronto. Yeah you know it's funny you bring that up because I was listening to the oiler. Postgame show last night. Remember Rob Brown the big high-scoring guy for Pittsburgh. Yeah he's basically Mario lemieux's janitor right. Rob Brown goes on to sail to. Here's here's the issue if you WanNa make the playoffs and you want to win the Stanley Cup is the you know. They have complained about the refereeing last night and he went on to say that you gotta dig deep. You GotTa shut up about. You know why you're losing and blaming that on someone else and you know what it separates the men from the boys You know come come time to do this. And and you know players asking for trades and complaining like the refereeing or or. They're not on the right line or calling out other fucking players that that that has nothing to do with you win and hockey games or winning the Stanley Cup and I liked it. You know I. It was pretty interesting right that that he shoves all that shit aside and said it's who wants the most for sure and it has to be a huge But I think everybody wants it. It's just a matter of what? What can you bring to the table? It has to come into the group has to want it for sure and I think most teams do nobody goes into a Stanley Cup. Final going on. I don't really want it that bad. Of course everybody wants it but you have to come to the table as as as a roster with all the right ingredients and there's and there's goaltending has to be there your systems have to be in check You also have to have the guys were willing to do. The dirty work and Jake Muslim for the leafs was that so they were already shy of what Jake Muhsin delivered and now he's gone so it just there are lots of ways lots of things that have to go into the Stanley Cup recipe and right now the lease have too much of one thing. Yeah you know talked about one of the novels episodes. We did that. The problem can be for a team. If you look at Toronto you need an eagle for sure. Okay to play the game. You know you you got to believe in yourself. You GotTa think you're one of the best guys in your position But the difficulty is so ever every one of those guys and all those teams right Sort of expect that they'll be on the first line they're going to be in every power play they might even play the penalty. Kill stuff like that and he said the problem is not every. You can't do that. Not everyone can be that for obvious reasons. You know you can only. There's only three or four man on every line and he said the big differences when when those players come in and the coach calls him in after trade or resigning contractors something or and says listen. You're you know. I don't know if they say relegated. But YOU'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA play in the third line. That's that's where we need you okay. We need to on the grinding line. We need a good fourth liner where these guys perhaps we're on a first from another team or played their whole junior career as the number one star and depending on how those guys react Steve. That's the that's a big big miss or hit for your team moving through the playoffs and stuff and I agree with that do you. I do absolutely and I think you're in a situation to where we saw. Jj Pasha get traded and a lot of people are going. Wow I in a second round of. That's a lot to give for a guy who's a third liner and there's a lot to give in terms of the contract. It's like a six year thirty million dollar deal. That's a lot to give up for a third liner things with my point about having all the right ingredients. Lula Morello understands the Stanley Cup recipe. And you need guys like that in there as well whereas the leaves are trying to go to war with the show ponies. You need your workhorses in there as well it's got to be there and and and it's dismissed because guys don't have big big gaudy stats. People dismissed their value. Lula rally didn't he brought in. Jj Pozo who was absolutely defensively elite as a Centerman. He will always do the right thing. Stats won't be again Gaudy. But they will be very good. They'll he'll chip in. He's got twenty four goals so people need to kind of rethink the value of a player. When they're talking about what it takes to win at all yeah not. Everyone could be the CEO. Steve Okay not everyone can be the president here right that that. I read the first time I read that sign. And I don't know if it's Clare. Drake Quote Clare. Drake was the iconic head coach of the university. Golden bears for years. He died a couple years ago and I remember being in that Locker Room when I first moved out here and there was the sign. That says it's amazing. What we can accomplish if no one cares who gets the credit right and I thought beautiful. Good Yup good one. And and that's certainly what I know. That's how they had a lot to do with how the others in that run. You know of course Wayne had a lot to do with it but but messy stepped up right in this guy just absolutely ripped everyone about putting everything aside when it came time to play in playoff hockey shit. I don't give a shit about your personal life today. I don't give a fuck about what this means to your dad and everything else. I want to win the Stanley Cup and Well it's a flawed system because I totally believe in that motto but the pro system is so flawed. Because you're paid for points you get awards for points even the freaking Norris trophy. Which is a defensive award. The guy wins that every year is generally the guys top three in points among defensemen. Ri- right like where's the guy? That's you know shot-blocking and coming away battered from every game and knocking guys down in front of the net and snuffing out the other teams offense with threats that guy get zero love and yet. That's the guy that you know that your university coach is talking about. They're the guys that don't care about the credit they just WanNa win the game of the guys that are worth their weight in gold yet. We don't value them that way when it comes to pay daytime when it comes to free agency time we actually yellow. We just want the guy who has the points we want. The Guy was going to go out there and they get the night pretty goal against up in the highlight reel or not the game. The game at all right. Yeah you know you you. You're here quotes and stuff and you listen to players after after they accomplish something really big. And you'll see you'll hear a lot of your superstar if they're cool and if they're honest they they often talk about. I'll tell you what you know Johnny Galardo okay. Our fourth line grinding defensemen okay. If not for him okay. We're in trouble tonight okay. The guy broke up six in place. Plus Three Zero on the panel on the power. Play for the other team you know and and and you begin to get the sense. That really what happens is is the guys who are prepared to lay themselves out you know and the guy comes forward goes. I will play anywhere. They want me to go. I want to win the Stanley Cup. Play any role whatever they want me to do. Fight not fight fucking play in the first line play in the fourth. I don't care I'm signing that guy up stevie right. That's the guy on my team and not you're not you're stefan digs from the Minnesota. Vikings saying I might leave the team because they're not passing me the ball. Enough Yep K. Lettuce Closer the day today with a silly story from the world of boxing is a boxing match heavyweight boxing match the other night train deontay Wilder Tyson fury. And we've heard excuses before Tyson. Fury wins this thing by the way in a nurse round I think yeah well We've heard excuses before as to why things don't go very well for an athlete or for a team. This would be exhibited as far as lame excuses. Go or dumb excuses. Although maybe I shouldn't say lame excuses because I may by this. Having seen with this guy was wearing walking into the ring. Deontay wilder entered the ring in a costume. That says left his legs tired before the opening bell. He looks very much. I don't know if anybody remembers Monty. Python the quest for the Holy Grail but the Black Knight and the forest. It's just a flesh wound hook eight. Okay that's kind of what he looks like. He may be looks like Daedalus or like Hercules character or something he just basically walks in looking like a century in or something. He's got a suit of armor going. It looks really really uncomfortable. And he's claiming that this this elaborate costume. He wore. That weighed forty pounds. Was the key reason why he lost a Tyson fury. It was bagged. It was the only reason he said. Okay heavyweight bout. And he is the second time they fought and now apparently there he gets some option here to fight him a third time. There's some ruble in boxing that you can do that and when asked. What do you think went wrong? He says that forty. I had to wear a forty pound costume. Okay that might be a little different Steve. If you're a flyweight okay number Scotty Olson. The bulldogs remember him. That little boxer Scotty Olson vaguely. I see him around town a little bit. He lives over So it's like the trainers might be. Okay who did that and the guy says well. Well the reason we thought that was okay is because he's a heavyweight okay. He can run frick twenty miles a day. Okay he can he can. He can go on the heavy bag forever. We had them in the gym when he was talking. Three hundred and fifty. Okay a up the weights. Okay this guy could bench press a fucking condo and so I just thought it would be okay if we put a little forty pound outfit on them you know still. It was a dumb decision and you know you. Don't Brain Steve. I mean there's clearly I think a case of a guy who just got warped and wanted something to fall back on. It wasn't me you shouldn't criticize me if we're not being good enough what we should do is make a bunch of excuses and this was the one that came to mind. It was a forty pound. Hell outfit with a big metal helmet even at batteries in it so that you could zoom do a little flash in his well of lights and things but I'm not buying it either. It's still a funny. I still very funny. Excuse totally excuse it. It'd be a little different Steve. If guy had a peanut allergy okay and the guy collapses gets Schick from the first round and they're trying to figure out why and the and the guy says. I don't know I did the same thing. The only thing I changed is a bag walnuts. You know before the start. The that's the only thing we did different. I read that gives the guy a little more energy a little more protein. There you did. He has a peanut fuck. I thought this wasn't real when I read it the toughest guys in the world. Boxers are unbelievable who leads the cost was too big for the for the eight yards. I had to walk with it. And it's just it's dumb too because it's like okay. You're blaming it on something that you did. It's not something that was out of your control. You really didn't have to walk in dressed as a gigantic black CENTURIAN or is this. Just go out and fight man. Just just get your your trunks on. Throw the gloves on. Get in there. Or Conversely Steve. I've I've my all time favorite and I'll forget her name though she was a Canadian downhill skier. Won a metal and the Olympics Way Back now. She's a commentator and she said it's because she got late the night before. Oh yeah for. Winning was apparently Gartner. There you go there you go. I think that's who it was. She She said it was why she won. Yes let's say conversely wide what? What's the what's the reason for winning? Yeah and that was as it ever go very strong very okay with that. We should call it a day. Just get stupid. Stevie usually the soccer players are banning it got to keep your aggression level up and there we will call it a day. I'm sorry Steve. This that I wasn't very good on the PODCASTS. Today I got I got tight underwear on. That's that's holding me back from bringing my best many with into town to get some looser Wednesday boxers but we'll see.

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Toffoli Trade Reaction w/ Carrlyn Bathe & The Royal Half

All The Kings Men

38:59 min | 1 year ago

Toffoli Trade Reaction w/ Carrlyn Bathe & The Royal Half

"The right side of the Voinov overshot. Donna brought me off. You're listening to all the king's men. The official todd cast of the La Kings. Three Tha pie shop here. Kaczynski Block I Apollo for Copa Tar to pull me on right wing with a shot. Any scores Tyler. Toffoli COMPLETES TREK WERE THEY EMPTY. Net goal here with four. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Walking makings fans. I am Jessica. This is all the king's men we've spoken Rob Rudnik from northeastern university about Tyler Madden. We'VE SPOKEN TO THOMAS. Grants from the athletic about Tim. Schallert we've heard from Rob Blake. We know the hall. The kings got back from treating tyler to fully but in this episode. I WanNa talk about Tyler. Toffoli and what he and Tanner Pearson and Jake Mohsen. Kyle Clifford Jack Campbell. And all the rest of them meant to La Kings joining me now from Fox sports west Carlin Bait. How're you doing it in Harlem o? I'm wonderful Jesse around ten fifteen pm and I'm in a hotel in Winnipeg so doesn't get much better than hells no all right. Well kept for them. The reason I wanted to talk to you. It's bittersweet day. He's really just sort of bitter as the kings trade topic. Toffoli reason I wanted to talk to you is obviously. He scored a hat trick in stadium series game against the Colorado Avalanche. You were there I didn't think it was appropriate for the NBC guys to talk as much as they did about the potential of him being traded. But I'm assuming it had to be a topic of conversation or at least started hanging in the air. Did you get the sense that it was? You know that the the the guys tyler in particular knew that this was going to be some sort of last hurrah. I am not sure if they knew when but I think it's it seemed like it's it's always just seems like on this journey to the deadline that everybody kind of soaking everybody. Cotentin last Hurrah without putting a label on it and I was a little shocked that you know in in a game that has so much theater to it where they're outdoors and the whole dry. The fact that it's this you know epic stadium series battle. I was a little bit shocked that questions. We're asking on the post game. Presser but about potential trading and reporters got a report totally respect that. But like that's not where my mindset was wrapped up in in the theater and the production and the the entirety of Of what that game was rather than what the future could be for this player. So I my head wasn't there. I can't say with the where the players had four but it's just been this kind of eerie looming sense of what's going to happen next and I think everybody's been a little bit more friendly. We're making sure where our last interactions with whomever we're talking to is a good one just in case moments like tonight Hafid were. You never know when you're gonNA see them again. I gotta Say I am a little stunned. At how hard some fans are taking this. I mean it's never fun to lose a guy who was drafted by organization at won the Stanley Cup with your team. You know who with roots in the community? The way he does but people are. I mean there's there is wailing gnashing of teeth. Renting of clothing people are upset about this trade. I mean I would be too. I were in there shoes. He's he's one of the bigger names in the bigger faces of that organization and I mean the Kings such a good job at leading you take a peek into their lives and people know his wife's name people know his dog names. People see him when they're around the South Bay like it's so hard to not take it personal and you know I think fans are expecting some big moves but I mean people just kind of create this persona. That goes along with. Who Tyler to fully is and I think they're losing a part of that. They're losing the cupcake means like you know what I mean. That's seventy lines. Officially totally demolished in being reunited are reunited in Vancouver. But I I totally advertise with with the fan base and can completely understand why. There's just a giant uproar I mean are you are if you take yourself in. Put it in the human element of all of this. Jessie are you. Are you a little upset as well as kind of something that you kind of look at in a business way or do you totally upset I for me? There is a a huge scar on my sports fans. Soul from when they traded wrote a tie and so every subsequent scar you know has to contend with that original one so right so there's nothing that can devastate me anymore because that was that was the one but but yeah yeah but but for me the issue is I see a guy in Tyler Toffoli and in Tanta Pearson in another players who have been traded and who ultimately probably be traded. Who seemed like a really good guys and who I enjoyed watching you even when the team wasn't great even if I had complaints about his production or what have you. I still enjoy watching Tyler Foley. Score right in. There's tons of pictures of him from the Stadium Series Game. You know in the silver bucket. His hands stretched out after scoring one of his three goals. Any just looks right. You know. He's a king and rand. That's for me. That's the part that stings. Is that you know. I've spoken to my father about these players. Who have these moments that cement them as quote Unquote Real Kings Entire Foley absolutely one Kyle Clifford as well So yeah I completely understand again. I'm just surprised I guess. And it's part of just being old man I guess there's there's a new generation for this into a row so I was just going to say I think I think any member of either of the cup championships will forever sting way worse and and harder for the fan base than people who you know. Who's only been here for handful years or less than that. Just all of these cup winners are going to be the hardest ones to see. Go for sure you you your presence with the Kings Predates Tyler. Toffoli arrival now. It post dates his departure What did you see about you know? What did you watch? I don't even know how to ask this question. How did you see him? Grow as a person. Never mind as a player. I feel like I saw him turn into an adult. That makes sense and I. I've been around the team since two thousand eight so in a way we've all kind of C- seen each other turn into adults cope. Copays actually really vocal about that. And so drew. They'll they've mentioned a couple of times. You know we kind of grew up together. And I'm like yes SORTA Kinda. I'm a little bit older than to fully and I just feel like I've always just watched him flourish whether it was in his game or around the community and what he'd done was little King's program and how he kind of tied his his face to that with the kings and and how he's you know just really opened up as a human and it's just been it's been nice to see that evolution of holy like not just on the ice but off as well. I mean people have seen pictures of him on his wedding and he's you know he's a full grown adult now so it's just weird. It's really weird when I take myself out of the reporter role and think about how tied these guys are to the identity of the team in the franchise be accomplished. And it's just weird really weird it is as you were saying that it made me think of this. Anybody will relate to this on any level but because he was on the second line because the team had copay tar doughty. Quick you know Carter some of these bigger names. I suppose around and it's one thing to have a hero traded. It's another thing to have a player who maybe feels like you're younger brother and I'm sure there are plenty of their for tyler. Toffoli IS OLDER. But yes yes. That's the perfect way to put it. It's like you're you're losing your little brother. But he's everybody's little brother but it's just kind of we. I think we've you these guys the way that these guys these guys like you can kind of sense that maybe also looks like that By his teammates as well so definitely definitely feel. It won't look. I appreciate you taking time out of your fancy. Winnipeg hotel life to talk to us about this thank you. I really appreciate it Jesse. I will say this I. When the news broke I was heading down to the lobby to wait for some some friends to go to dinner and Tyler had come out of the elevator with his sticks and his stick back and he looked like he was gonna be okay and I gave him a big hug. And I definitely geared up. Because there's this human element and all of this and I was at a total loss for words but it was. It was a really special moment that I kind of just got to see him before he hopped in that cabin and went off and He was in good spirits. And just I just want people to know that there was no hanging low. There was no walking out with a shoulder slum. He looked like tyler fully just walking out and taking a cab to go somewhere so I just hoping to know that he. He didn't leave looking miserable sound while I hope he's okay. I hope you're okay. And obviously we hope King Sanzar. Okay be maybe a few more of these days but was not here. No not yet but soon we'll see when you get back home. Thanks again Carl. Thank you Jesse. Talk to you joining me tonight. It's bittersweet love having him on never in these circumstances my best hockey buddy royal half Harry doing tonight bath of doing well Jesse. Hockey Gods give that seventies line and the hockey gods take that seventies line yeah all in one swoop actually because two thirds of them now being gifts to the Vancouver canucks fans also wait. Roll back to your show. Were starting to have a like times like these murders on tiny piece of my kings fan. Heart has been okay. I'll take it so low. First things first All Jokes Aside Tyler. Toffoli and his wife really actually. How does that a lot? I know you tweeted about it but I want to give you a chance to talk about what it meant just on a personal level. Yeah so for for the blog during its heyday. We had some kind of cursor awareness that the players knew about it or were you know would laugh or chuckle at some of the photo shops and memes and whatnot but when it came time for bark madness you know Bark Mattis. It's you know it's it's as Corporate as you can get now at home but there was a time where it was a grassroots organization where I didn't know I didn't say that it's don't beat something I real- It really was. I mean we have a as as bloggers. We had no access to the players the fans or or to their to their dogs. Yeah we were fans their dogs but we know access to that made rely on instagram and twitter cut a behind. The scenes. Cat Really helped get US access to The dog photo good photos of the dogs to be able to use in several scenes bark madness and wishes invaluable and as much as we tried our best to to Iowa caucus the system and make dodger to holy a winner. We never were able to do it and we were very appreciative of the two. Foley's even after dodger losing every year helping us out so again a an ice behind the story to to to really show the impact that the police had not just on the ice off the ice with the fans and I mean they really did and part of it I think is that tyler to fully. I mean we had co Petar. We have Brown. We had quick. We had doughty. There were a number of guys on that two thousand twelve Stanley Cup run that were drafted and developed way. All saw grow up. But they're sort of an element of you know seeing something once and and you're just overwhelmed by the shock of it but then seeing it a second time you get to really sort of enjoy it I think and Tyler defoliation and Tanner Pearson Jake Muhsin to me anyway represented a much different emotional affection than that first round of guys. Yeah no I get that and it was a little bit of the. Hey we're GONNA be able to keep this going on. Yeah you know with with with young picks And and young John Young players. And you know the I can't tell you how I mean to fully was our second round pick in in twenty ten which was the Drought that was in. La cracked so So we were able to literally be in the in the room when he was selected and so he just kind of. I think whether it's the name is Tyler Toffoli it just. It's a great name. You know just like you can separate yourself from as a player You're right it was a little bit of a source of excitement for kings fans to be like. Hey we might. We might be able to do this. One more time and low behold a year and a half later Yup Yup and they're having lived. There was something I don't know Theatrical about the fact that he appears in Carter came together on that line. What was it called? I believe it was called at seventy nine. That's right but I mean they were so crucially important to that second cup run and it was like this extra flourish in the team would want in two thousand twelve and all of a sudden right. Carter's role completely changes. And now you have these two new young faces and I mean I've been surprised is not the right word but I've been really eat on. Scores surprised at how some people aren't many seeing the tweets and the instagram posts. People are people are crying and yelling at the at the heavens people are not happy about this right. Yeah and I think the IT started with the Muslim trade last year and and and a lot of people. I think even our boy. Raymond tweeted out that Trevor. Lewis gets traded the entire with what we Matt Green was the last player he checked the puck up to start playing for the cup winning golden fourteen so all those players which I think for a lot of successful franchises that this is a normal kind of standard operating procedure. Eventually these players either age out or or rebuild begins and seeing to holy be shipped. I I think the shock is just so so soon after one of one of the highlight of the last two to three seasons was as great outdoor game experience that the kings were part of and to fully having the first ever outdoor hat trick and being the third player of the week. Like I think not. I think the most real list kings fan knew that he was going to be traded. I mean he's unrestricted. Free agent. It would it would be We would be more upset if he wasn't treated yes. He walked away and and wasn't able to resign with the Kings. We would be just as sad as we are seeing him traded. But I think the fact that it happened so quickly after that outdoor game. I think stunned a lot of people. Yeah and you know we always were I. Guess I always certain separate the kings fans into errors or classifications. Whatever so for those of us who are our age. It's weird because we never had successful players to see leave before there'd be Romo Thailand Lever. Blake would leave And you'd say okay. Well maybe they can win somewhere else and you kind of rooting for them to have a young player drafted by the King's developed by the Kings who played in the minor league system. You watched you waited from show up. You showed up and then they want and now he's what twenty eight seven twenty seven and that's the thing like it's not some grizzled veteran. I looked at and saw that. Roughly or Rub Lake but a Dustin Brown was thirty five and I almost had a heart attack. Now you know but to fully twenty seventies in the prime of his career for it for a goalscoring a player so it is it is bittersweet that going but you know. I think we kind of made this joke in our offline group. But if you're going to have a last image of Tyler Toffoli as Los Angeles King that shot at the. La Kings account was tweeting out. Leftover right the other night of him smiling and fist pumping after scoring that goal. I mean there couldn't be a better way to cap this guy's career because he always had a smile on his face he always was happy. Go lucky and and he can always put the puck in the net. So it's it's it's it's great. I think they do make a statue of him. Yeah of which I don't know how high others that you love Tyler. Toffoli editor where he rigs the statue Index there yet. Maybe he comes back with that Jersey. Would be the the GO-TO for this Atchoo. He's almost doing the same post at the roadside Roman statuettes. Doing it's true in some of those sorts of both arms up getting back to the other half of the fan base. The ones who grew who literally grew up with Tyler. Toffoli right because at this point it's been ten years ten wasted my life but if you're anywhere from fifteen thirty You know these these guys. Kyle Clifford Tyler. Toffoli appears Jake Muhsin. You mentioned them possibly Trevor Lewis. I mean these are the these guys that won the COP. It's not just the guys that when the car toys a little bit exception but but they were also the early the first ones in you know they were two thousand they to me my fondest memory of of that era obviously winning a cup. Both Times was was like unbelievable but but the first time the kings made it back to the playoffs in two thousand ten after being out of the playoffs for nearly ten seasons like that against Vancouver that first year where they lost the first round series. that to me was like that was pinnacle and some guys on that team number was was clifford. Richardson and Richardson's Simmons Alive. I think we call them the three migos. So yes the fact that part of that group for for the fans that came in the door right before it all happened which I'm all for it Yeah this is one of the biggest names for them to be connected to the to be traded. Well this I mean the canes rise to success coincided with social media right so when you know the ninety three cup run I didn't have read. I couldn't be finding out what conquer likes to eat for dessert. Or what warrant right. He loves cheesecake. And I didn't know it weren't regular dog was named right. I just had you know your news racks. His name is rex. Radical film critic extraordinary So I mean yeah I feel for people because Tyler Toffoli it's not like he was bubbling over with personality. You know he wasn't. Pk Superman or anything. But he always yeah Seattle dog. He loves you know we knew his life. It's just I'm just looking at the kings drafting into tyler. Toffoli was drafted. Two years after drew. Doughty is not you know in that in in in those draft from two thousand seven on you had well you had Trevor Lewis in two thousand six you had Martinez and seven Win Simmons and seven Dwight King in seven and eight. You had a out nine. You had Clifford and Jordan Nolan seventh route three times the Cup winter surprisingly strong draft in two thousand to fully forber in intent. So it's just yeah. It's it's it these are to us. I think we still Kinda see them as young prospects but like we said there there guys that are in the prime of their career in our are heading onto their second chapter and I think you know look obviously when when a team struggles the kings have. Recently people like to point fingers and say This or that or blame it on this that and the other thing one of the things that always sort of aggravated me about the criticisms of fully was that he never quote unquote developed into a top line player and he had all this potential won an award juniors for the best right winger and one season where he scored thirty goals. And then everybody. You know likes to malign him for not ever fulfilling that promise but to me they. He was never really given an opportunity. And that's just the price of success. Right there veterans that are GonNa that are going to get playing time whether it was Gabriella Carlucci Kovalchuk Brown. You know there was a cyst always a body. They're sort of keeping him. Tethered to Jeff Carter on that second line. I'm hoping that he goes in becomes the player that everybody expects it to in There won't be any you know wistfulness or bitterness on my part if he does ten hasn't Vancouver's a lot of whistle hasn't bitterness on my part for that one. But yeah for Tyler fully. I just wish him the best. I mean. Honestly it's funny I I. I remember seeing him as a young player in tracking him in Manchester and then when he got called up and he just had such a quick release. I it's funny. You just refresh my memory. I think we made fun of it. Countless Times on the blogger on twitter that was he was always a right winger or left wing playing on the right side like He. He really struggle those first couple of years because he was on his off wing and it just was like mind boggling to me that someone was so much talent could be. You know. He just didn't play that wing and when they moved up over the other wing. That's when it really clicked with them but seventies line but I remember remember sitting next to my the guys my section when my season seats. I'm telling you this guy is going to be the next robot Robo Tie. He obviously did not turn out to be the next robot. But you're right it wasn't. It was a lack of opportunity. And it's funny you see them kind of consistently beyond the first line. Let's go came. It's done pretty well. Finally on the top line I think it was a we did a T. R. H. Suite night when you're in I think it was against Edmonson where he had that play where he carried it across on his back. Footfall you just rips it and I think you and I both said a number of times that for a season or two at least there was only one guy. Get us out of our chairs so to speak on a on a scoring opportunity in it was it was tyler Toffoli. I mean Guinness Solid for what? He was You know like you said never turned into into the next Luebbe type but those earlier pretty shoes to task someone to fill. Yeah I've just secure you know because I'm looking at the the land combos for the Connects right now and I'm just so curious to see where he goes. Because they have Ericsson Miller on the first line and you know Pearson and the Vert Vert Virtanen. Britain pretended on the second line when they tweeted out today. After the trade that a blanket on the two names they've got two guys at Bar Brock bestseller and And I think done for the season Besser out for at least three weeks. They'll reevaluate it so I mean they. They need it. Yeah and I had. I asked Lake if this was a question of Vancouver accelerating the move because they needed bodies or or if there was just a price that the kings knew they had the the trade from other than last year. They said you know somebody gave us what we wanted. So we said yes so anyway. It's a bummer. But on the flip at least we have a body to pay attention to coming back. The kid that they get from northeastern university. Who I'm told is. Ob Maker candidate this year. Yeah I saw the name Tyler Tyler. Mad and right yeah and I didn't even think twice a bit until you brought it up it's four John John Madden have tyler when he was like eighteen like John Madden that old like he was. He was part of that doubles team. I remember he had some success there and he was on the wild. But like that's crazy that this is. His son tweeted or instagram. Or something interview with him about his kid and he doesn't look. He hasn't looked that old. He's forty six forty seven. Yeah okay. But he's six and he's got. How old is I mean he's what eighteen nineteen okay. He pretty early but yeah and the Guy Retired in eleven twelve so it wasn't that long ago eight years now in kings history. Wasn't that long ago that you retired So yeah it's crazy to me that it's John Madden's can and And they got now. Let Me Understand. The the second is actual second. And then what are the conditions? Because you know me loveless conditional pets. What are the conditions? How many Games has Jack Campbell need to win in order for us to get another pick from the Vancouver canucks? Is that how this works three more for us to get that from Toronto but al also the Vancouver having an easing all we need. Nhl three-way trade where conditions are like you know. That's that's good. That's legalized gambling. Because my bet is it's basically like okay. I mean look trading traffickers league. I I think I think it's criminal that GM controller for traffic than get fired. And you know that. Pick can wind up being a franchise savior of some of the team. But now the condition is if to fully resigns Vancouver The kings get a fourth round pick. Okay that's a look. I'd rather if if this truly was the kind of best I offer that came in. I'm fine with both with trading and like you said earlier the Muslim trade getting those assets for it You know I I think the the Clever trade is going to end up looking like a really great trade As well for the mouth got for him so And I know that everyone from you know the the the athletic to some other blogs who'd never heard over are saying that the king's farm system is so great So exciting that they restock it but it's also a little bit of reminder that the plan is invoked might be a few years but you Australia Rate Games look at good right the whole teams in their last ten or something like that. They look incredible. Everybody should go. But but the one of the you know if the royal half blog were still operating a full power power trevor. More from thousand oaks and at Tyler Madden at from northeastern university. Which only important because of course Alex Faust and a few other members of the King's front office our love of northeastern so I fully expect to hear tons about The bean pot the hobey Baker and and and the thousand oaks hockey and the next the next month just it would just put a final point on it John Madden had tyler madden in his rookie year when he was twenty five years old cheese. Just just to understand how this crazy world goes around well hopefully tyler madden won't be rookie when he's twenty five because he's twenty now so or hoping for a slightly faster time line into the NHL half thank you very much for joining me Jesse I've one big question for you before you bumi off his out gaps. Yeah what's going to be going through your mind when you see Tyler to fully in Tanta Pearson Lifting the Cup for the Vancouver canucks. I probably shouldn't say this out loud. But whatever the did you ever see how you probably observer sees that Jay and silent Bob Strike back. I think that was the name of the big I might. That might have been when I gave up on. In the end of the movie they prints out all of these negative comments that people have left them on their you know the equivalent of whatever they're calling. Imdb back in the and they fly to everybody's house and beat them up and then of course they're all little like twelve year olds you know anyway if If Vancouver wins the Cup and Civilian Volume Pearson play any sort of meaningful role in. I will be printing out all of the twitter comments and message board comments. I have seen maligning the two players and I will be on a road trip try. I believe. That's all that's called nowadays Having Receipts Yes. That's right is correct. Carlin asking for receipts when I said that pumper correctly predicted the star of the outdoor gay. Just taking a quick look at the connects roster again. We don't know exactly where to fully lined up. But Zack McEwen is a center. He's got number seventy one furlan referred to earlier. He's cautioned right. Yes seventy nine so very slim. Pickings to to have a Canadian version although. I don't know what met you at your Canadian. So over the metrics from seventies be in from from miles accommodations for for Canada. We'd be that forties line or something bad is according to my cousins. You've gotTa add twenty years of Culture Passing. So maybe that Nineties Line. I guess the work that into a treat there you go but I mean I'd be curious to see if to keeps seventy three. I just assumed that he and Pearson sort of had to keep those numbers after the personnel seventy in Vancouver so I would think yeah. We'll see anyway. We hope to have you on again. Hopefully not when a bunch of other players? Such such sad circumstance. Thank you for joining us in there. But I honestly I thought Bailey said it perfectly. Don't smile early. Say don't cry because it's over smile because it happened so huge. Thanks Tyler Toffoli. Anna's you said cat to fully for the Bailey for waxing poetic for Jesse Kurt different anyway. Thanks very much the half. Let's act. I mean joining me now. One of my favorite people favorite kings fans on you Lisa. How're you doing today? I'm Greg Jarrett. Well not not great and now the reason I wanted to have you on. Is that For anybody who has seen you at kings game Wearing the tyler. Toffoli Jersey festooned with little cupcakes. Little Fabric cupcakes cupcake you. You are resident queen of mean on team the royal half and you not only had a personalized Jersey. That you crafted up with little cupcakes. You also did the cupcake tracker every time towers volume score a goal. You'd have a little gift or a sticker of Cupcake to count the The occasion many okay. Yeah now like I said one of my favorite tremendous artists. But how much fun was it for you just as a fan to have a player with that kind of Gimmick enough to let you gals like let people call them cupcake and I I loved it you know when I first saw him coming up and he just had like this little baby face in your just like who is this kid. He's an adult male but my just when he played it was like so joyful and I think that's kind of what I was like. You know. Wow this is this is like pure love of the game so Being able to then figure out a way to celebrate that every time and then he was like really good so that was kind of fun to In in making the cupcakes and having the different teams it was just awesome. And then when you see him a typical thing and it's like I'm the crazy cupcake lady that was like yeah that's that's the one But Yeah so. It was really nice to be able to connect in that way and it was like from the fans. I'm not sure who started the whole thing but We definitely took it to the next level and even having like the sprinkles they did the best writer for that. It's awesome. Yeah Yeah that's that's pretty cool. We were trying to figure this out. The other day my recollection is that it was in the king's vision. I think it was coking's vision back then maybe not but but I think it appeared that. Right Pearson. I think it actually might have been Jones but the three of them were bestest buddies or maybe it was remember but one of the they were asked. You know what's what's so-and-so's favorite pastime. What's so and says favourite video game? What says they're asking questions and it came to the Foley was. What is his favorite dessert? I think it could have been shown to convince Pearson now that you sent it but anyway but the answer was cupcakes Luggage Yeah Okay and then I think it took off and I don't think he actually really cares that much about cupcakes. I don't think he does. I think later they like after this. Like the sprinkles I think they did it and it was just like he's like well. Okay what makes it even nicer that it's like what a nice? What a nice kid like. Okay sure cupcakes major sports star wants to be what was what was his reaction to your Jersey. And and the whole cupcake thing when you got. I think it was like He. He was always super super polite. You know what I mean like. Very nice and like okay. Like you're you're you must be crazy. That does this But I do my family too. So it's like you know take takes the Takes the the crazy down a little bit so we'll have a very nice it also yes they are? Yeah right far divall What what kind of reaction from the fans because again. This was one of those things. We've talked to the royal half earlier and as I said Tyler Toffoli not exactly bubbling over with personality but perfectly happy to let us transplant one onto him and I think just like open to it which is very cool and then for other people it was more like and if I'd be late like if I was you know having a life in maybe not watching single second. It was like A. Where are they worry about? Gotcha letting down kind of funny. Yeah so I kind of had to step away because it became A lot of time because you have Dan -ticipant at least the next three minutes. Three you gotta make a hat trick one but then you WanNa get to Jinchi with this. I was very in my head about a lot of that in the Steve and what they are we approaching GonNa be hosted. Valentine you know it was. It was a lot When you have a busy brain do that Yeah but but I think other people got really excited about it too. I think that made it a lot more fun. Because then it's like okay the cupcake really. It's not just it's not just me Harvey for me to give you homework on the podcast. But can we get a little chrome helmeted a cupcake or a little cupcake with? Do it like this has been. I was not expecting this day. So I'm like no But but yeah I. I'm taking solace in the fact that he was going to be with Pearson. So that's that's okay. Okay I can. I can live with that but absolutely I will. I will definitely be making dumping. He bars for thank you very much for joining us and I think we all say the same thing we say you know. Good luck in Vancouver cupcake. But it's just like you know he and cat too. They were like my little. I the first couple of La Sports you know. She's got the dodgers and he's got the kings and as you know you're losing more than a player. They were such a good. I don't know yeah representation of the city to sew. La Lost a little. Say It's a business but it never I know you're not supposed to get attached but come on non. We all do this. Otherwise otherwise wouldn't make billions of dollars every year if it was just business but they they get us in the feelings. They do that they do much on. Yuli. So we'll talk to you all right. Okay have a great one. Thanks for listening Kingston views as well.

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Current Events w/ Jon Rosen

All The Kings Men

30:10 min | 1 year ago

Current Events w/ Jon Rosen

"You're listening to all the king's men the official todd cast of the La Kings. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome back kings fans. My Name Is Jesse Colin. This is all the king's men was setting up to be an uneventful homestand leading up to Jeff Carter's one thousand. NHL Game has been disrupted by some heavy hitting NHL media personalities. I won't bore you with the backstory. If you're listening to this episode than you already know what's going on and you most likely likely have questions we have questions to But we may also have some answers for you and providing those answers is none other than the La Kings insider the one. The only John Rosa John Quite the day now. Yeah Yeah okay to. That's right. Yeah not only that but You know a couple of days away from Jeff Carter reaching a thousand which we haven't got to yet and so that brought up questions that I had big important questions the biggest of the day which was how would the royal half have covered Jeff Carter one thousand. NHL Game if the royal hand while still with us. Peter oil alright piece stung by wasps. Horrible Watson it's funny. You mentioned the carpeting. I I knew in my head. The the thousand Games was coming up. It was a point conversation last season and yet today I caught a glimpse. I think it must've been on the NHL website the timeline tracker whatever and I saw what does it. We're at nine nine thousand eight now. I think it'll be Saturday against Yeah Vegas and I did a double take and I was like Oh my God. There's been so much other stuff happening when you're right. It just completely got lost. In the in the kerfuffle. What's the line in the kerfuffle of of packing and preparing I forgot to pack or whatever Lisa says in the summer where they go away in the Summer Beach House to present it no but just with Jeff before we get to all the other stuff on Jeff obviously someone now with the with the La Kings That is a you know he he. You might look at him and think that this is somebody that is most right there at home. Synonymous with the La Kings beach. Lifestyle is kind of influence on that has been like you know profiled on Teddy talks. That says you know. It's all about a lot of the players too but I will say that Jeff is like a really blue collar type player those coached him mm-hmm and worked with and developed him way back when he was the captain of the Sault. Sainte Marie greyhounds were were really high on kind of the honesty Steve. He played the game and is still evident with today. And you know just the approach and work ethic so great to see Great great to be part of that and Anytime that there is a one thousand game ceremony which will have when we return from next week. It'll be it'll be a special right. So kings kings production always does a great job with those tributes with the videos. and IT'LL BE GREAT FOR AFRICA JEFF to be celebrated Phanor all right good for Jeff Carter but enough In a cooler talk. Let's get to what the people in yachting around yes discuss. Let's say let's talk about what People WanNa hear what's going on with Yulia Kovalchuk. Well not really but with the team regarding illegal chuck what can you tell us about the reports and what to expect in the days the gum. Nothing more than in what anybody else I shared by. Thanks for listening example. Talk to you know but again you know you should listen to the finality analogy with which On Jaco Petar spoke last night. I like others have written and shared a pint on. See this as the beginning of the the end when we say the future is murky. Perhaps that's being a little bit diplomatic as they're getting past I don't want to use the term irreparable because that suggests that there are you know that there is something really or affected about the relationship that is that is festering. But it's it's I I. I can't speak to the motivations but I'm not expecting coble chuck to to prefer this to be anything less than a in short term thing this is. This is a story. This is a thing and as it relates the king season. You know it's this is the kind of what you have in the wake of when you are in thirty first place ace and it does represent the fact that the kings were you know. They really needed to be a team that needed to get out in. Stay in the pack out out of the gate respectively. And that's not to say that they haven't played well played with structure. Gotten the shots. They're playing a committed game under todd McLellan but back there. Obviously where they're at the standings and you know. I think this is something that is wearing non-players regardless of age but this is something that's very very difficult and Ilya Kovalchuk is somebody that not always one hundred percent sticking to the plan. He's somebody that improvises a little bit more I'm not as a paragon of hearing structure and minute aspects of detail and so that's a challenge. You know he was skating with players that were less experienced. You know he had been getting good minutes. Fourteen to sixteen minute range. He had been dropped down the line up. I mean you guys know all of this this so I I'm wondering if you know this is obviously an influence there but I'm not expecting him and the Kings to last very long here. I I think that a lot of us see this is the ship sailed but this is obviously something that is very very complex right now what we do know and can speak definitively had to flee about really only the tip of the iceberg so there are multiple layers. There are a dimensions beyond that which I am of understanding right right now but what has been shared obviously is in debt has been out there you know. The kings have attempted to trade him in the past. It's unclear what the market for that is right. Now the the sense that I have that we all have is that this is a process in which everything has been accelerated just a little bit. Maybe a little bit greater impetus to to work something out because they're reaching a point where where where where you know. It's not a good point. Some sorry how long that I take answering none of those were on now. I have to cut this out. Cut that out all right all right every three single bit of self deprecating but now I have to cut this part of all right all right all right all right. The less editing is fine with me now without getting into details or speculation Regardless of how this matter resolves itself whether we find him in the lineup on Thursday night and moving forward or I'm not expect I understand but I'm just saying lie either side of the coin whether it's that or whether it turns is out is as you and everyone else is sort of you know reading the tea leaves on and not reading. The tea leaves by the way. Let me finish the turn. Turn of phrase the important part. The point is there's two options either is with them or isn't I'm trying to find his nicer way to say he isn't as we're trying to convince them it but my question my question is eight anything public or my question is regardless of how it turns out. Is this the sort of thing can have lasting consequences consequences on the franchise or is this the sort of thing that can be resolved. Then we move on now. I don't see any larger big representative. You know archetype archetype issues What you have here is the possibility that the kings are gonna have another salary cap? Hit for the twenty twenty one season that when you look at what the kings communicated a two season ticket holders to members of the media Two different groups in partners. They want to divorce themselves from contracts This is this is a potentially costly way. That may stick with the you know the salary cap next year but this is going to be a process and With that being said they were envisioning a team salary cap this year or or at least the collective collected salaries to beat about seventy seven seventy-nine million a little bit below what the cap is and that's basically where they rat to start the season so I don't know what kind of range they had in mind yet. Exactly for the you know the twenty twenty one season but I was presuming. It would be a touch higher than that because you know in their in kind of a You know when when they were making those rounds you know they they saw next year is that near year where they would return to playoff contention. Whether that's more you know a more friendly type of scenario debate that as much as you want. But you know it's an indication is what I'm saying that you know it probably would be a little bit more than seventy seven seventy nine because it kings are a team that has traditionally spent to the CAP. Large urge market team takes care of all their players runs with a good budget so It's it's tough to say what the implications will be. I mean it's becoming again this as you know speculation but what we know and based on negotiations and based on what seemed to be a limited market and no real you know very advanced discussions with any particular particular team on couple checked before it is that it's just to what degree are they going to eat some cap on this For next year. Is this a situation. Where because he's a thirty five plus he wants to go back or it's you know it's something that is unclear whether you know this? If he departs I shouldn't say that it is clear if he does depart the gains. Do have that six point two five million but is that the endgame are there ways around that that obviously at this point right now the kings don't have a great deal of leverage so challenging. But you know it's it's right now still at the early stages as of this but you know this is. This is a thing this will. This will be a story at least for a little bed right now. I just. I'm trying to think the other day yesterday. I'm not the other day I I was trying to think yesterday. Of what the most recent comparable situation to this might be because I just had one okay. Great it's very hard because you know you go back. Where was area where? There's a thirty five year old. who was didn't travel with the team while healthy to stay with the development staff and work in practice on his own? There isn't much precedent for that. But you know the only thing that's closed. which was universe difference that I came up with it was like when Mike Richards back in? I believe it was in the fourteen fifteen season the word that we've gotten from I'm working on a baseline as line for his numbers and things but that was that was shortly before he was assigned to Manchester. That's the again now. That was a different type of story. But that's that's so we came up with but but there was the only the only thing that I can come up with and it's definitely not the same thing at all was yeah. I can't remember if it was Chris. Villager Wade Redden but one of them was assigned to the miners and spent. I think the better part of two seasons there. If I'm not mistaken right with wasn't it was the reason for the Rangers senator. I don't know but we should go back. into the Kings Archives Archives at this and what was the fallout from Uh Berry Petoskey as I recall that was the end of Barry. I could be wrong about the time. Line there for those who you don't know very petoskey. Allegedly got into a fight and practice with Dmitry. Chris Niche back. And what would that have been the ninety seven ninety eight. Hey Hey hey you're you're going to want to edit. That Very Tomsk is dead. You don't want to you. Don't WanNa talk about the end of Barry Baton ski well. I'm not editing and keeping it in the end of him in okay so it was wade. Redden was sent to the Hartford Wolf. Pack for seventy. It'd be nice. Why the thirty five plus the interest berry guys in the minors right? But that wasn't you know I think totally different circumstances. Yeah but that's that's why that's why that clause does exist in the CBI. Yeah why am I guess. This is the first time something like this has come up which I mean the whole thing just at both times to me it is both fascinating and utterly boring because as you pointed out this team is in thirty first place and so yeah so it doesn't really matter ultimately I you know. First of all Elliott Friedman is is part of like the highest and most elite group of NHL H. L. Insiders. So that's like great reporting news on that end you know I. I think that a lot of us were trying to find out a little bit more understand everything kind of moving right now. It is a multilayered situation with that dimension. Just in the sense that you know there is an the impetus now but he is also Otis. You know part of the signing bonus on December fifteenth at which point he becomes more attractive. Are they able to you know I can't i. I can't speculate for what their their conversations are but we those those close close to the situation he as much as we can't say and again the kids haven't said anything with Blake sang healthy. Scratch not wanting to go beyond that and not wanting to do you know counter or you know. Counterpoint Toddler Calendar Rob Blake. You know I think the way that we say it is you. You know. It's D- diplomatic to say that it's murky looking forward. I guess you shouldn't you don't buy stock in Copa Dr King's partners LLC. Ah guests well like you said I think this is probably a thing and I expect that we will be talking about it in the days to come but for now let's go ahead and move on because it's nice. It was nice writing those stories like like sure. Why does he smile so much? It was among unlike prouder stories that I'd written I'm glad that you brought up to a king because there are those out there because this is a very short soapbox rant and then I'll get a get off of it move on but there are those out there who still take time out of their day to malign enjoy king into those I say shame on you. The man won the Stanley Cup twice with this team. He did everything they wanted to do. And then when they you know when his time had gum uh-huh moved on and continued his career somewhere else. So stop picking onto a king. All right you wanted to talk to me about European scouting. I believe International National Scouting. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's just something to keep an eye on that some Over the last two weeks the kings have had a number of people out there just recently Now the EU tournament dies in the middle of the international break. Right now the believe up Mike Futa has also linked up with Christian roots who Nicholas Anderson and and their scouts in Europe. It started with the Car Yala Cup which is part of the European hockey tour. I think kings things also had some people in the land cop if that I think that might actually be about to take place that might actually be in December. Forgive me but oh sorry about that. I'm responding to attacks on a podcast right. Now I'm happy microphones thought it might be discreet to text rather rather than say it but now that we said you're tapping your just just the things that can I ask you know with the four nations cops in the Youth Cups you know I I with the International Teams that big clubs tournaments The national teams tournaments at the Kerala Cup they were looking at a lot of teams. Were there to look at Jesse Jarvi. RV The former Edmonton oiler. He's somebody that's generating interest former fourth overall pick. I believe I'm not of the opinion of the Kings are interested or will make a move there. I don't have a sense of what. His stotka went up or down at that tournament. But there were a lot of executives executives air to check him out but that now shifts to the national junior teams in the U eighteen teams Kassian is somebody that has an opportunity already as a quote unquote underclass men to to log. Some interesting minutes and offensive situations for Finland. He's got to earn a spot on the team but looks like he's on his way to doing so. Obviously obviously Sandra J mo guys like you know. I'm expecting toby. Bjorn to be released for world. Juniors get a little bit more more in-depth with that we get there So that that that's That's interesting just just as a heads up that we'll have some more coverage of what's been going on internationally. What scene and some of the international king's scouts such as those guys On coming up is Christian roots. Who really that great at his job? I mean it feels like the the amount of Swedish players that they wound up with this. WHOA WHOA really really bad grades? I didn't mean I put the wrong I put the wrong inflection on the words what I meant to say was is Christian roots. Who really that created? It's like it just feels like they've really we found like feels like they've had a lot of goldens out there you know what is it the line about prospects there. You don't know what they are. They're they're just players. I haven't done anything yet. So we'll we'll wait and see I'm inclined to say yes. I'm inclined to say that everything. Yes I believe so but let's see what happens with this. La Lakes team once they actually do have like a number of first and second round draft picks be consistently using and developing so but yes in roots as a very good relationship. You know not just a Swedish Scandinavian prospects. Also the Russians is well tons of good luck on that on that front recently all right. Let's move on at the beginning of the season. I did a ten questions facing the kings and one of those questions was what happens to Tyler Foley and another one of them was is Adrian. Cambay the number to center now. I think it's fairly clear at this point that at least in the very near future Adrian campaign has not secured the number to center. Spot am but Tyler Toffoli remains the most logical candidate. I I think to be traded yet. Yeah he's shaping up is basically like this year's Muhsin in the sense that you should get a pretty decent return expected. It'll get quite as much as as Jake Muhsin who added an extra year remaining on his contract but it's it's difficult is somebody that has a lot of value in return. And what has been shared stuff that I've heard as well you know. Basically baseline is a second rounder. PLUS PLUS A B type prospect. If he is able to score then maybe the question is go to a I. It's more inclined to raise value even didn't fall down but I went on Edmonton Radio and talked about that on Wednesday. I really still do have a lot of faith in tyler. Foley's ability to be somebody that could it'd be a difference maker and play on like a second line wing and a number of different situations for a team. It's disappointing for him. Personally that you know. His difficulties have come in a wok. Year that have coincided with the Kings You know the the bottom dropping out on this team but I still see see those plays those little hands plays around the blue lines on the perimeter to gain entry to the offensive zone. He's not the most skilled individual ease. Not The greatest skater skater. But still somebody that does make those hands plays on the perimeter and in pretty good areas. I obviously somebody. That's not you know. Being helped out by a rising tide lifting all boats. This is a case team. That doesn't score that much and doesn't have a power play and certainly. There is absolutely reason to be skeptical given the last couple years at some point. It's not just about your Coursey rating you've got to produce and it's been inconsistent but I've got faith that at this is somebody you know i. I kinda scoff at anyone. Who would think that? This is anywhere towards any misdirection in his career. I anticipate eight. That what other ever team he signs with this coming year is going to get a good player. It is going to get somebody. That's going to score a lot of goals because of his age in the contract status and the fact that he won the Stanley Cup with the team in two thousand fourteen. I'm inclined to to say best of luck to him. I hope it works out. I you know I I wish him all the best in the future. But I won't I won't necessarily shed any fan tears but Adrian Kempe as twenty two twenty three and all I see in his future. Is William Carlson right. I'm just sort of terrified that they reach a point where he moves onto another team at some point and then suddenly becomes this player Robert Lang. Yes exactly yeah. Yeah no I understand understand that I mean I guess you know. Let's just get down to their story with Adrian Camp as the fact that he has two hundred five. NHL Games Georgia four. Excuse me and you're still asking those same questions and you don't know has reached a ceiling. What is his ceiling? Is he going to be a goal score. I certainly think that the team believes this to. I mean you've seen situations in which he looks like. Hey even if this is what a ceiling is he fits the role of Third Line Center perhaps whereas it seemed obviously has a number of holes. He's playing above where he would be playing on most other teams in the League and the Kings are just allowing him to have a situation to run. He has had lots of success both in the Ahl on the power play as well as internationally for team Sweden especially a world junior. So I I understand and given where this team is at the most important thing is vacant. Get more out of that. They can bring it out of him and they're going to hold it accountable accountable. He knows he's got to be better. Adrian campaign is totally an accountable player. God bless him. He's somebody that you can go up to. You know while he is getting bench. Ask them these types of questions that he he tells you what he's working on what he's got to be better at and as much as this is difficult for him He helps you out with that so so he is accountable to the coaches as well but again. It's it's you gotta work on Defensive Zone coverage he has to be able to work on Using his skating effectively efficiently not not as many wider turns having impact every single shift. That's good for the team and and again this is somebody that he knows that he's talked about it. He understands us. He knows he's got to be better but I can't. They had that meeting with todd. McClellan they break broken gonna down wrote about that just recently on La Kings insider but again Given the age distribution on the gangs I when you have campaign just turned twenty three Blake Lozad. Who's almost twenty two Michael Mattio? Who is twenty three as well? Those are the centers beyond Andrzej Copa. Talk I think we were just doing the math the other day. I think the only player on the king's born between eighty nine and ninety five under contract for next year Is I want to go back and find this. Hold on one second only four players. I mean it's to fully it's Clifford. Nikolai precaution. You know Adrian. Adrian Kempe is a center. The only four. We're told that I let me see if it is it. I have fallen what was the. What was the window you give now? He's going to ask me to edit this out when it gets sorry. I'm not GonNa do this together. All start over and try to make this clean as possible an interesting stat here. You go so it's important with campaign because because of the way that he fits in in the age distribution among their forwards the only skater that the kings have signed The only forward the kings kings have signed born between nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety five who is signed beyond next year as Alexai follow and currently. They're only four four words in that that group you have Kyle Clifford. Who's in ninety one? You've Tyler Toffoli US ninety two. I have followed in ninety. Three's so then. After that you have Adrian and Kemp is in ninety. Six Michael Matteo's ninety-six the kings need to add to that group. I mean that's that's something where where they have only one player under contract for next season beyond one forward. You know who's in that twenty four to twenty nine year age range that's why it's important for campaign for the Kings to get what they can is really an important position that they can The day that will help build a bridge to their younger players not Britain in stone that he's going to stay at center and in fact. I think there is some clarity at other players. Coming and going from the center position among their prospect or like Rasmus to Scoop Pari though he is playing center right now in Ontario Very well may end up at the wing but as it stands right now this is a year. They're GONNA have to take stock of what they have what they're working with. You know. Clean out what they don't like and they're gonNA give Cambay every single opportunity to match up against tough centers and it's right now it's sink or swim but in in the long run. Perhaps this is something that will shine more clarity on his offensive ceiling. What what position? He is in the long run. How the final two years of his contract will be fulfilled? Will now that. I've thoroughly depressed myself. Let's go ahead and talk about something positive you've Let's talk about how Great Jonathan Quick has looked in his last two games. Yeah Yeah I was using that reference before too was like what is Lou Brown and Major League. Say like one wind going after another win. And that's what you have all a winning streak That's the way the Jonathan. Jonathan quick has been playing right now that there has been a string of games immodest string that have been really good again This is Jonathan quick aged thirty thirty three behind a less predictable in much thinner. La Kings Defense and checking team. That is no longer GonNa shut teams down in the third period and allow five shots on goal none from any dangerous areas. He has trended well. He's had a number of good games in a row so we'll see the they. I need him to seize this position right now as he's another asset on the Kings are trying to you know continue to raise the value boost. What they have He does he signed for for more years down the road but great against Minnesota. But if you want some technical evaluation for me I have no idea what I'm talking about when people we'll we'll I heard somebody say. Excuse me I heard somebody say that praised shouldn't too much. You shouldn't be heaped on Jonathan Quick for are stopping all of the shots on the power play against Minnesota. Because it's just Minnesota but I looked up Minnesota's power play last night and they're clicking along at eighteen point one percent it's okay great. Minnesota answered with thirteen goals in their last night. I mean listen. I says they'll Minnesota Jordan. Staal has been doing for the last basically league like twenty years but also really like the last ten games as well. So it's hair stop. Excuse me. I'm understand the Kings powerplays at eleven point one percent heading into game last night and Minnesota was eighteen. Point one so I just don't think we should be throwing rocks at any other teams power play. That's all it's baby. Steps Reuven their penalty killing. They need to improve their goaltending. You know they're they're five on five. Play has been fine but it's been a dead weight. They're you know they're the other aspects of the game that don't allow them to play with leads. They played with a lead for basically fifty nine minutes on on Tuesday. And you know that it's not as strenuous doing that but you can only play the teams in front of you and you can only kill the penalties you've taken so I'm gonNA choose to go ahead and say bang-up job by Jonathan Quick the penalty killers and the La Kings. John I wanNA thank you for joining me in grand. Hopefully the next time we do this it can be under less dramatic circumstances. Yeah I mean we're still like kind of in trouble because we all reference like the everything's okay alarm in fourteen and you know the royal half the Hashtag is it mid April yet kings fans know better than to Tug on the hockey gods. Yes yes we do Are The some of these challenges right. But it's not gonNA stop us where we will continue to stop was until windmills are called yes made self deprecating. Humor is now doing exactly what I want like. I said I want to thank you for joining me. We'll do this again soon. And I'll see you on Thursday. She on Thursday talk to you soon kinks fans.

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The Great Playoff Debate: Round 2 (Gary Shuchuk, Jim Fox & NIck Nickson)

All the Kings Men | LA Kings

1:03:10 hr | 1 year ago

The Great Playoff Debate: Round 2 (Gary Shuchuk, Jim Fox & NIck Nickson)

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. You're listening to all the king's men. The official todd cast of La Kings Southern Mel. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome kings fans. I am Jesse Cohen. This is all the king's men presented to you by Manscaping on official partner of the L. A. Kings. You can get twenty percents off plus free shipping with the code. Kingsman AT LANDSCAPE DOT COM. That's MANSCAPING DOT COM and use the code king's men. It's time for another installment of the great playoff debate series of episodes. Were Jim Fox. Nixon will decide the best playoff series in kings history this week. We're focusing on the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Where the canes have wins against the conducts in Nineteen ninety-three the Blues in two thousand twelve. The sharks in two thousand thirteen and of course that seventy series against the ducks in two thousand fourteen. Jim Nick will join me in about fifteen minutes to share their opinions. But first we're GONNA take a look back at the very first time. The kings advanced past the second round with Gary Shoot Chuck scored the game winner in double overtime of game five against Vancouver joining me now former forward for the La Kings Gary Shuchuk. How're you doing it? Gary? I'm doing great thanks yourself. I'm good thank. You know you were part of that ninety three team that made the run to the Stanley Cup final before losing to Montreal. We won't dwell on that. What I do want to talk about is the second round series against the Vancouver canucks. It went six games. The kings one four to three and in game five in double overtime. You scored the goal to win that game to send it back to La for game six Anything in particular about the series leading up to that game that sticks out in your mind. Well I think the big thing is we. Test Series Against Calgary first series against them. We're in Florida tune in virtually all on. I didn't play in those very kind of wanted to go with a different lineup From the end of the year Deli Rudy was Kinda struggling in net. And kind of going back and forth for him and Ross Stopper and so I just wanted to put guys in the line and so I was Kinda Itchy to get into the playoffs and You know kind of story be told Wayne went and talked to bury the ask them what they should do for. Change it and Wayne recommend put me in and I got put in for that series in You know it one of those series Plan Vancouver. That was basically under the part of the Out of the division I think their first overall they blew away everybody in our division. I think research like number one sees birch third seat and I think the media had Vancouver. Kind of walking old rust. We had a tough series against Kinda got US ready for Vancouver series. Sounds a little bit like the two thousand and twelve series between the kings and Vancouver? Everybody Picking Vancouver to win Vancouver out in. I kings limping in. Yeah exactly yeah you know we? We're just kind of we. We got in the playoffs. We do we kind of had a good surge at the end of the season there we actually had really gone goaltending by goalies a star Kelly Rudy. Then then it. Just Kinda team kind of snowballed to kind of put it all together against the cashier. I think we won that series. Four games the two but then new. You know our backs against them all going against Vancouver I said there no WanNa talk teams in the League and we're tired. You know. I think the might had twenty or you know. Close twenty points more details in our in our conference in their division. And so you know we've had to go out and play in so that's of did I think the first game we slipped and then And then the came down games three or four. It was again. It was a serious that I just came back Vancouver huge and You know once again. It kind of came to our advantage. What going back on three games to two now you score the game winner in double overtime goal mouth scramble. It's been described as I'm curious. Did you know before the puck went in the net lake? Did you know I've got this? This is a goal. Or did you find out after it went How how in the moment can you be in double overtime game? Winning goal of the playoffs. Three of the truth. I don't remember much which is probably probably the second period I got hit at the the red line by Gerald did it and I was not lights out I I was out cold By the red line there and so I kind of went back to the bench and that would end. I remember the game. It was it was kinda crazy for the rest of the second period. The third period and the double overtime not knowing what happened. And that's KINDA SCARED. I wouldn't happen in today's NHL but was one of those things where I just kind kinda shook the cobwebs out but I did not know what happened was funny. I was getting interviewed. Acciari scored Hawks Janada and I actually had to look at a teleprompter to kind of see what happened then. Oh yeah nothing nothing new so it was weird after watching on TV. I kind of knew when when they pass behind the net. I had you know small Jap from From Trish Mix Mcclain's goal pat and the global. I kind of slacked at it. And I knew by Maclean's reaction went in celebration was on coming back to game six then in La up. Three two kings go ahead and win. I WANNA say five to three in that last game I actually still have my ticket stub from that game game six. I can remember. I can remember being in the parking lot with with my dad after the game and just being so excited and I think I was fifteen years old and none of my friends like hockey and my dad was the only person I know we were just driving home from the forum. Just so excited. What was the crowd like in that game game six? I should say in the forum after beating Vancouver and advancing to the The conference finals. For the first time in franchise history it was. It was deafening. I remember from even when we had the warm ups for that for before the game that the forum has already rock and almost fall. People got there really kept watches. I remember we all came up with and the place was packed on. Jesus is just the atmosphere for women. I think with my best of the year. We're all flying around there. But no I think the fans knew. We had something special going on. I think we slow early. I think Vancouver had to catch up the rest of the day and you know I think we knew that we're kind of destined to to make it to the The conference finals against Toronto. But it was just one of those things you know the the goal that I scored or you know to Megan. Three to anything can happen. You know it's pillow deem luckily came back to La in winning six. If you know you never WANNA go down this year and I think that we went down three shoe going back. I think we would have been afraid. And I don't think we would have won that game even though it was at home looking at At the score sheets for the last two games in the series. You've got a couple of goals for a guy named Wayne Gretzky. Yari Curry scores Luc. Robitaille scores Rob Blake scores. Thomas Tomas Sandstrom Scores and then Warren Reichel and Gary Shoot Chuck both score. Keep talking about the depth of that team. I mean obviously loaded up front with guys like Gretzky Robitaille Answering McCurry but then Warren. Reichel has five points in the series. Pat Conquer has two points in the series. You've got that goal in double overtime talk about the split between the team. I think that's what made this so special. We had we had the superstar agree had Wayne. We had Yari we had. Marty mcsorley is on the point and rob late. I thought it was the third and fourth line guys kind of you know. Kinda brought everything together. We knew that that that way those guys would be you know getting close closely checked and guys cheesy playing them hard. So you know we. We had to do our job to play hard against their top Top Line guys we gotta to be harder for checks we new role and I think that's what I'm talking about teen really gelled at the right time and berries. One of these coaches were. You played all four lines and everybody got y'all fall sale to part of it. There's there's some when you're on a superstar team you know they won't play their third and fourth line. Fourth Line guys a lot. You know Sperry. But Barry rolled lines. We played and of course you know winning yard and Thomas brought up more ice time and which deserve because of the power place up but when it came when it came to like an energy shift or something had to go on. We knew myself and one Reiko even Corey Melanie adult. We knew a role we had to go out there and play hard and it kind of sparked a team when we at you. And that's what that's what happened. I don't know if you've been watching the last dance documentary that ESPN has been hearing about Michael Jordan. And the ninety eight ninety seven ninety eight bowls. I think the ninety seven ninety eight goals absolute obviously shows what a what a traveling circus of it had to have been traveling with Jordan but in ninety three with Gretzky in La was that did you guys experience any of that. I mean I know their stories about celebrities coming into the locker room whether it's Goldie Hawn Russell John Candy I mean was that no it was actually Kinda neat you know I grew up in I grew up in an and you hear stories about this but you know he had to actually John. Candy turn around with US during the playoffs. Who's actually trying to get ready to write a sequel to five movies. So he wanted he said down during our our pre game meal. We just wanted to hear stories. You just to hear stories about Minor League Hockey College Hockey and just we just kind of just sat around and BS with him he he thought it was awesome. And then of course the celebrities wanted to be around all the time and be in the locker room especially oxygen one so that that was the crazy thing. We'd love to see but you know like the way that watching the you know the last dance with Michael Jordan. I saw firsthand but had to go through the in Vancouver especially started going with conference file Toronto and then the Stanley Cup in Montreal. It wasn't absolutely donkey show for him and I feel bad for him because he couldn't really leave the hotel chauffeur meals with us because get bombarded you. I could sneak out the front dog. Who's that guy you know? But you know guy like wearing those guys. They couldn't do it. There's Kinda stuck in a hotel you know and I felt bad so I can relate what what Michael Jordan went to was. What Wade had to go through You know especially during that time especially up in Canada when we're playing in the conference file in the Stanley Cup final against Toronto and Montreal. All Canadian teams you guys. Face that that playoff run and obviously Montreal had their tremendous ot record but but that double overtime goal again. Man I just. There are some moments that are just burned in my brain as a kings fan and that is one hundred percent one of them. I'm looking down the roster of the Vancouver canucks cliff ronning Pablo Beret Jeff Gordon Trevor. Linden Dixon Ward Bomb Ed Semenov Sergei Mess Murray Craven Uric. Lou May You mentioned Gerald Dick Babich who played for the Kings. Later Kirk McLean. Was there one player on that team in that series that that you guys really had your eye on that when he was on the ice you step up your game. I think fell breath. Probably one of the guys we really had to focus on you know the he he could still like the win. Russian pocket talking rock. They call them. I thought that we really did a good job of really eliminating the his scoring chances when he when he goes out there. But you know like I said they're team so had so much depth and they had you a lot of NHL experience now. I battle cliff ronning all the time you know. I think we're about the same size. But he's one of those guys again. You couldn't give them a lot of room out there. Just have so much death with several in and captain. That's you know that's the reason why they were slight division champions by so many points because how good you know the biggest thing. Also Kirk McLean in goal. That was just a rock form. Back in the typhoid. I mean he was another reason. Why so many games and had had success in the playoffs actually leading up so he had number and I can't remember overall record against Gun the season but it wasn't good and I think a lot of people didn't think we had a chance against especially with the Bethel satisfied going into that series. We gain confidence planning a real tough substrates gets calendar and we KINDA KNEW. We had nothing really. The loser's go play hard very happy with a great motivator like he only us us being you know the underdog against Vancouver to our advantage. No respect no one in Canada wants us to win where keeping California big deal. They don't want to say at a California team being another Canadian team so he kind of does motivation for us and I think that helped us and we kind of bought into what he was preaching on lucrative stats the series and to your point. Pablo Berry just five points in six games only one one bowl a minus two so I mean good job. Outta you guys to hold him down. That's impressive guys. Remember Barry Saint Anytime on. Nash's stick on them next year. Hit you know if you see him. Just keep bumping him out there. I remember that Mary kept saying a couple of slur and Russia. And I tell you but it was We did a good job and I think that's the difference. You know our top guys you know they. They started when would need me. Being good goal tended and I think that we all kind of bought into our roles and it kind of carried into the rest of the playoffs for us. Well Gary Thank you very much for a wonderful memory to for generation of sand and thanks for joining us here today. We appreciate it. Thank you what time and I said Please stay safe out there. And hopefully this stay at home. I N Sue and get back to normal ice from your lips to the hockey gods. Here's Gary thanks again. Thank you so much appreciate. It is time for the great playoff debate round to joining me again. Jim Fox. How're you doing today? Jim Jesse through in great. Thank you very much hanging in there. And every time I think back on the series of kings win it makes it that much better. Well that's what we're here for an Nixon joining us. How are you doing today Nick doing well Jesse good to talk to you again? Foxy and Yeah this is GonNa be a A series that We're GONNA look back on and Have a lot of good things to say about It was a I in a number of a way. So yeah looking forward to this segment. Yeah I was a little surprised. I suppose that you both pick the same series lawyers. I shouldn't be We spoke to Gary shoot check already about the ninety three series against Vancouver which was the first time the Kings had advanced past the second round Just on a personal note. The two thousand twelve sweep of the Saint Louis. Blues will always be my favourite king series because I still am hurt over the ninety eight series against the blues. And so for me. That was a sweet revenge for the Kings to get their first series sweep in franchise history against Louis but let's get into the two thousand and fourteen second round series against the Anaheim ducks the first time the kings and the ducks ever faced off in the playoffs. That series really Looking at the totals was all marrying gabric. Six goals for ten points plus four lead the Kings Agyei. Copays are eight assists one goal nine points in the series. Justin Williams and Jeff Carter both with five points kings win St- game seven on the road and again just a little personal note. I was able to secure a ticket to that game. The day of the game for About one hundred dollars. Think so all of those rumors about a about the Honda Center being staple south. Maybe a little bit of truth to that. But let's start with you. Jim Biggest takeaway for you from that series against the ducks. Well the reason I picked as my series Jesse and just be. I'm going to try to simplify things. I'm going to go to three specific reasons why I believe. It's my favorite second round series. The king's point reason number one it's against duct right reason number two against the ducks and reason number three. It was against the ducks three excellent reasons just to add to that. The kings didn't want to get serious. Really let's not forget we'll get into it but yeah the kings playing. The Diet was the first time they'd ever met in the postseason. Right but I had forgotten this Anaheim had the best record in the western conference. They were the number one seed that season so it was a kings team that was in the conference final year before lost to Chicago and two years prior to that in two thousand twelve a their first Stanley Cup. So Yeah Yeah it was the ducks but I think what added a bit more flavor to it. It was a very good Anaheim team. The kings had to take on and of course Anaheim had the the home ice in that in that series the I think the whole fourteen playoff neck and again I talk about it many times. I it just my opinion. I'm pretty sure the numbers would bare it out. But I think the Kings winning fourteen the road to the Stanley Cup. Final was the most difficult road the history of the National Hockey League. I'm GonNa go that far. I mean you get down three to San Jose in the first year. He's you have to play you match number one seed in the second series. You're getting into a situation where Chicago is. Are they? In the midst of Salary Cap Dynasty. You know just to get there so anaheim a big part of that. I know just you started with a couple numbers to me in crunch time situations. Unfortunately I have a tremendous amount of respect for these guys. Sometimes we can joke about things. Sometimes we have to get serious but I think this Lafon Perry were both minus five in the series Co Petar was plus five Gabbara of plus four a lot of the crunch big time important goals. That were scored. That was the matchup and the Kings won the match up of the top lines absolutely and Marianne Gabric I mean looking back over the years. Not only in series the kings have been involved in but other teams that have been in the playoffs. How often does a player in a seven game series score in every road game in four road games which is what Gabric did he had six goals in the series Jesse talked about but they were all in Anaheim Ties it late in game? One after the kings pulled goaltender and wins it in over time and that Kinda set the tone for the kings and and of course Gabric like Carter in twenty twelve was deadline acquisition that season and he was brought in. You know to add offense and only did in that series as I mentioned was get six goals and as it turned out he led the NHL playoff goes eight years. So good for Marian Gabbard. All you can do score. Well that's the winning numbers when you're putting up numbers like that in the playoffs. You don't need to do anything else. I mean. I've talked about it on other podcasts. It's it's the MVP the Conn. Smythe doesn't always go to your best player. You know it goes to a difference maker. Sometimes if there was a second choice to Justin Williams and I would go with Gabric and because of the goals he scored because of when he scored the goals and many times the type of goal he scored was not necessarily the Marion Gabbert. Enter with speed and bigshot. It was your nose into scrum situation Absolutely and I was just kind of a reliving some of the highlights of that series with Gabric and and and in the first game when Anaheim's got a two to one lead late in the king's pull the goaltender. Gabric is going to the net and he got a rebound or a tip of a Mike. Richard Shot so again. Not a a skill type of goal that you would expect that we've seen so many times from Marian and then over time the same thing he goes to the front of the net copay tarp puts it in front of me. Tips it in so yeah again Gabric had a great playoff series. And his attorney one is only Stanley Cup in his career In twenty fourteen but yet he give him marks and we don't have to talk about much now but you know in the following series against Chicago. It was the same thing he had some big goals against the blackhawks similar thing. Just go to the net. Be there for tips. Be there for rebounds and very effective. I agree with you Fox. Yeah I I think and I don't know maybe we can ask some of the writers when we get back to normal hopefully in a couple of months Where Marian Gabric in the cons fights the voting your as you mentioned Williams did win it and certainly you know a difference maker in the three game. Seven's got the kings to the final. But yeah you gotta think in Marian got got his share of votes in twenty fourteen. Let's talk about speed real quick in the first series against the sharks in two thousand fourteen and sat out the first two games then he gets inserted into the lineup and it felt like at least from in my memory that the the kings regained a little bit of speed in a lineup that had been killing them in Games. One and two. How important was it? Jim You've talked about how in two thousand twelve team won on defense and in two thousand fourteen. They just came out and attacked other teams. How important was it to have players like Gabric like Carter like Pearson in the lineup against the Anaheim ducks team? That finished first in the division wasn't different makeup. Jesse you right now. You can add speed throughout your lineup and know that was I think the big contrast between twelve and fourteen was just that addition of speed and already had added Carter two years previous. You pick up Gabric Nick. I'll tell ya we checked into the hotel. This is first series but rejected the hotel in San Jose for game. One and I just went to Lombardy. I said Dean a minute just to pick your brain just before the playoffs star. Here just WANNA get gone. He talked to me for forty five minutes and forty two of those minutes. We're about the homework. The kings did to acquire Marian Gabric. And how much tape they watch. How much in person they scouted. How many people? They talked to trainers former coaches former teammates. It was incredible the homework they did so. Yeah I think you know you get a guy like Pearson come into a series inject speed you have got like Gabbara. Who Does the same thing? Then you have a corner on a separate line and before you know it you're just looking down through the lines and you're gone okay. This is not the get delete hold on and win like two thousand twelve. This is okay. If need be we can outscoring you too. Yeah let's not forget Tyler. Toffoli who like Pearson was a rookie that season in maybe doesn't have the the speeder quickness of those other players. You mentioned Jim but You know deadly around the net a tremendous shot as you can appreciate and he comes in and and there's another there's another weapon and as it turned out I think he wound up Setting a Kings record for most points by a rookie in a playoff here in two thousand fourteen. So yeah you put Tyler to fully in the mix there and now it's like pick your poison what line even to try and match up against Justin Williams who turned out to be the MVP for the most part you could. You could make the argument in that playoff year. He was on the third line. He played with with jared. Stoll and Dwight King. Quite often throughout the playoff series. Now they juggle the lines late in Games. That was closed. And you know going with veterans things like that as coaches always do but yeah I mean kings were tough team to match up against in Twenty Fourteen. Probably more so than they were The year before in two thousand thirteen in two thousand twelve won the cup. Because of those additions that you just talked about I think if I were comparing the teams and I knew were just talking about fourteen here but if I had to win one game just one. I would go with the twelve team because they were more consistent. You know exactly what you're going to get fired. A seven game series. I think I would go with fourteen team because they could win in different ways and through the course of a series that long you might have to find different ways. Mccain's did not go off on a tangent here. Game One injury to Robin regeer. The rest of the series Jeff Schultz comes in and plays an average of nineteen minutes and eight seconds of game so this is not a guy was inserted and just sits on the end of the bench. He comes in and plays on the second pairing and as I've talked before and I always have practices just talking about hockey. Just the hockey aspect. This Slava Voinov was a damn good player. I mean he could escape pressure he could move the puck he could attack in the zone defensively. Not Big but he was so strong on his skates and again. We know the reasons what happened. But that's not to get a team that that had more attack to it. I think the previous company and just to add a couple of things on Jeff Schultz A guy comes in and basically it was. He was the third line of Defense. If you will because Willie Mitchell was was injured early In the playoff year regeer then replaces Mitchell he goes down and then scholtz replaces regeer and You're right Jim I was looking at some of the numbers on Scholtz and he plays basically the series. The I'm series would Slava Voinov so there is your your second pair so to speak although it's tough to call. Martinez in green a third pair of for as effective. They've been and were in the playoffs over the years but Schultz was even in every game he played and you talked about the minutes and you know he had experience He had well over. I think four or five hundred. Nhl Games Mostly with the Washington capitals so knew how to play the game. He kept it. Simple a wasn't fancy Darryl sutter use them killing penalties Which he did with Voinov quite a bit and you know just one of those stories that whenever you analyze the playoff series especially when you look at a team that won the series like the Kings did against Anaheim this year. A good story a story where our guy you know gets his opportunity and makes the most of it and he was very dependable. And you can't discount the effectiveness that he had on the Kings being Ah Pretty steady of pretty sound team. Not only in the series but throughout the twentieth. Fourteen playoff run. Did he go? Did he play again after the answers you know? I think he did. I think it was Chicago in round. Three and I I know Willie Mitchell didn't I don't know if we're gear. Can I want to say regeer may be comes back later in that Chicago series? But don't hold me to that I'd to get up my sheets on that I'll look his game log right now as we're going into that but I was Glad you guys brought up the defense. Obviously in two thousand and twelve all six defencemen played every single game In that playoff run and so to have Jeff Schultz and and Robin Gear and and I think one other player whose name escapes me at the moment might have gotten in there but I could be wrong but to have those guys step up and fill in those steps roles. I mean it it. It just reminds me every time of Jeff shelves picture with the Stanley Cup. Where he's in a pool wearing a suit and a floating with the Stanley Akzo. But just a really did. I just looked Jesse. He played seven total games and and I think he played the last six in the Anaheim series so probably he plays game one against Chicago. And then revere comes back. Because I don't think Willie Mitchell was able to come back that playoff year. I might have been mistaken But as far shows his series was the Anaheim series played six of the seven games that he got into that playoff year against the ducks The the numbers I'm looking at Mitchell played in eighteen games so I think that might have actually just been the series. That Mitchell missed was that was that Anaheim series But regardless tremendous team effort. Let's go ahead and run through the Games real quick. We don't have to get too deep in the weeds. We'll start with games one and two at the Honda Center. Both kings win the first three to win in overtime. Goals from marrying Gabric mentioned Abbott game to marrying Gabric starts the scoring and the Kings win three to one jim anything particularly in that game. The you felt Help the Kings win the game or series? Well I think there's no question in game. Two it is Mr Jospin quickly. Kings were outshot. Thirty seven to seventeen. Doesn't always tell the story but you get into a playoff series. You need different guys to do at different times. And I think Jonathan he was picked the Number One star that gained Alec Martinez was Pick Number. Two Star and I was talking earlier about difference makers to me in their series. When you talk about the injury situation I think you make a a pretty good argument that Alec Martinez was the biggest difference maker for the kings and that he was a third pair defenseman earlier and then he probably still played on the third pair but his mixed his minutes went up to the point where he would be considered a second pairing guy or he was just he was about eighteen and a half minutes so just the difference make he made in. Games one game. Two for sure on that series. Yeah and I think Obviously in this series the home team just couldn't hold serve Early in the series with kings taking games one and two and Honda centers so the fact that the kings rebelled to keep themselves in both games one and two They scored I in each game. I prayed goal in game one by Martinez and then Gabric. Thirty four seconds game and that was huge. I mean as it turned out the team that scored I and all seven games while ended up winning in this series but to go into Anaheim again against a very good team that had hundred sixteen points at one hundred and sixteen points that year. Fifty four wins and you know. Anaheim got three goals in two games and the Kings Are Seemingly looking real good by Going to home ice for games three and four at staples. Now we get into game three and four at staples like you said Nick. And this is where the one weak spot emerges as far is the arguments for kings domine is that is that the the ducks begin to start having goaltending issues. Much like the sharks before them Jim Are you at all compelled by the idea that Boot using three goals in this series should be taken into account as far as determining the quality of the win. It changed the series around right back a little bit later eastern Anaheim when Gibson comes in but you know. Sometimes you're forced to do that because of injury I always felt even though even though you know. The ducks made it more than tough series. I feel that the team that is not forced to make a move a change in adjustment. As long as it doesn't have to do with injury of course injury comes you have to make an adjustment and not that usually makes the first adjustment is team. That's on their heels and the team that usually doesn't end up winning the series and know that they were forced to go with Gibson game for he comes in throws a shutout whose first playoff game the Kings Twenty eight to fourteen doubling up on shots on goal also huge win for John Gibson. But you know I don't. I don't know if boo shuffling things around as much as not just getting to a point of maybe his hand was forced at least start and then he's looking for a spark but if I'm not mistaken later on in the series I believe Mr Gibson gave up a bad goal leaky goal. And you know it happens to everyone that happens to everyone. But that that's a tough one. Bruce is you know. He's given a lot of credit for regular season. These dumped on for playoff. And maybe I let my relationship with him just in. It's not really a close relationship. When he was around the kings for a while so I tend to look a little bit nicer on Bruce than than maybe most people. Now you mentioned John Gibson And you remember Fox. Maybe you do to Jesse listening to Darryl Sutter When he was asked about John Gibson shutting out the kings and and the the remark. I always remember Darryl said. I don't think he'll ever give up a goal. It's let nobody is ever going to score against this kid. And that was a typical darryl sutter retort to a question like that And of course you know. Maybe the kid reads it. Maybe he doesn't mind games. Go on with coaches a especially in playoffs in all sports. But that's the one thing I remember after Gibson shut out the Kings In that fourth game was Darryl Sutter. Just a cab sarcastically. Telling everybody all ease the best goaltender we've ever seen. Nobody's ever gonNA score against them. And I think if I'm not mistaken in the same I don't know made with Darrell at one point. You're saying oh he's the best goaltender in the world by John Gibson. He's about he's the best you know little bit earlier earlier in the relationship with Jonathan Quick Johnson already won the Stanley Cup by then but earlier. That relationship between Darryl Sutter quick. There'll used to do that on purpose. Just Josh Terrell Jonathan up a little bit just to get him on edge because he always felt that Jonathan played best when it was on an drew. Doughty is on record as saying that Anytime they would play a team whether it was the sharks or Chicago that had a big prime number one defenseman on their roster that Darryl would would say something along the same lines like you know out Norris Trophy winning defensemen over their best advancement. Dowdy said a few times. I think that he knew what what sutter was doing. And and he would laugh about it but that it would work anyway did he would still come out and have a huge game. Let's go ahead and talk about games. Five and six we talked about the addition of Tanta. Pearson we talked about the addition of Marion Gabric. But there's a player from two thousand fourteen That we didn't talk about even when we covered all the defensemen. And that's Jake. He scores the first goal in game. Six Drew Doughty paired with Rob Gary. All through the two thousand and twelve playoffs but in two thousand fourteen. He's paired with Jake. Muhsin Jake or sorry Jim how did playing with Muhsin changed out his game and make that top pairing better than two thousand twelve. Well I think it. It gave drew a partner that could counter attack to also and I'm not sure I think there was a pretty big differential withdrew previously in that state. Home Guy Withdraw all the time. Mas Probably early skirt was more so like that. But his skating is so underrated his power his ability to close gaps then is ability to go the other way off. I think as the playoffs went along. Mas was used more and more in situations offensive zone. Faceoff get him out there. Make sure he's out there and I think for drew that just that gave them now. Ju- didn't have to single escape pressure. More so than in the past he could just dish it off to the other guy and that would be must and months can do his thing to and again Muhsin goes into the category of that type of player. We were comparing twenty fourteen additions to the two thousand twelve team and and their strengths which obviously was defense and goaltending and we talked about no adding Carter and a Pearson and again averick and into fully on the back end. You Know Muhsin gives you so many more weapons and not disparaging guy like rops Gary. But there's more to Jake Muslims game than there is to skit aries and and that's just another weapon that kings could use especially on the power play. Even though he was a young player he got his share power. Playtime in the two thousand fourteen playoffs. And I know when he first came up one thing that took my I when Muhsin was playing that left quite he had a a real good ability of just kind of hesitating when taking shot to kind of forced the defense to make that first little move the shop locker if you will and that would give him a little more opening to get that puck through so yet Jake Muhsin Had A lot of tools that that as we found out came out beginning with the Two thousand fourteen playoffs. So you guys know that. I like to pair. Up Games and playoff series. We have the kings and the ducks tied at two games apiece. After four with an even goal differential games five and six five goes to Anaheim at home six goes to the Kings at home again maintaining that similar goal differential heading into game seven. You could make the argument that the two teams are neck and neck. It's dead even And then game seven. The kings put the definitive stamp on the series. I remember again being at the Honda Center. We were sitting up in the upper bowl Behind the ducks net defending their net. And even though it was just the second goal of the game and it didn't wind up being the game winner I will never forget. Jeff Carter scoring that goal and to me. It felt like the game was over in that moment gem. I'll ask you again to validate my crazy theory that there's always sort of a signature game where one team pulls away in really beats the other one and that to me was game seven. Yes yeah I mean. It's I mean when I thought back on game seven. I have a very personal thaad which I'll get to in a minute but nothing in Corey. Perry gets a penalty shot. This is first period. So obviously unsuccessful. Quick gets the job. I'm not a what if guy but if it's to one early in the game right it never gets to find enough. It never gets to that to that point. So that's just one of the things. Now that I look back at the numbers. Look back at the game sheets. Just try to figure out what's going on there. That's that's something that stands out to me. You know you have may have you just have I look at that Game Sheet Jesse in one thing that just how many different guys participated getting it done. And that's that's the thing that stands out to me. How many different lines? But then Justin Williams with two points in that game is it gets the scoring started is it is it. Just you know part of his little chip in here Japan. They're not the superstar player but man. Can he be counted on? It's it's impressive to see what's going on there. I'm just looking here. At the Muslims. Total was twenty two minutes. Nice time in game seven game six. It was even higher than that. It was twenty five minutes so yeah just so many different people in this game. The one thing that stands out to me is the penalty shot. That's what kinda catches my attention. You know that's a two goal swing as it turns out within about a minute because Perry get stopped on the penalty shot at fourteen hundred eight to keep to nothing kings and at fifteen twelve a minute four seconds later it's makes it three nothing so what could have been a two to one game at Honda Center in Game. Seven is now three nothing kings and and uh build from there but yeah. I I'm with you. I mean it's hard to say that a game seven series isn't the pivotal game of a playoff series but pivotal point in that game seven. I agree with you totally. Is Jonathan Quick Stopping Coreper and it was and it was a good read by quick if remember really did make save on as Perry came in so and that that's a play you don't see a lot of on a penalty shot but Boy that was that was just huge. That was I'm with you. One hundred percent turning quite in game seven and It's it's the relationship if we want to call it. That between quick and Perry was very competitive. I'll just say being nicely so that just kind of puts in the back of my mind even more. Yeah I was listening to the entire game seven last week. And it's just uncanny. How many times after the whistle? I'm mentioning Perry's being pushed away from quick after the whistle You know Perry's around the net. He deflects the PUCK. Quick is complaining to the referee talking to the referee about the contact. The traffic so yeah. I mean it had been building for a few years and you know to great players trying to get the better of each other. And that's what makes you know the game within the game so exciting so much fun to watch. Jimmy mentioned that. There was a element to your recollection of this. Well it's just Again it's second round so we are no longer doing game broadcasts so we're doing post game in preparation for post game preparation for me. I would be in the production truck the entire game I would be watching from. They are preparing highlights. Doing telestrator is getting things ready. Now it gets to five nothing now. I'm inside the truck and we're in Anaheim. It's a Fox sports crew. But you know a lot of those people are closer to the docks. They worked very games more so than kings games. So you don't WanNa be that a rub it in guy and I don't WanNa be that guy out I'm not that type but just because of my mindset in nerves you know the ducks made at five to right before the end or rate at the end of the five was a five one and then five to early third at that point just be. I'm get I'm not doing the game. I'm prepping I walk outside the truck. I can't watch anymore. Honestly I walked to the furthest point I would say north east point of the parking lot. There is no one outside in that parking lot but it is packed and I just keep walking. I keep looking at my watch. I can hear inside the building. I mean I can hear what's going on with you. I can hear that but I can't tell what's going on. I just can't right I just don't know so I did to the far point and I say okay it's GonNa be down now. You're getting down to lease last ten minutes so I turned around not walking back towards the bill when I get half and I'm I'm the only person in this parking lot and I remember hearing cheers and I knew it wasn't the duck scoring new it. No there's enough kings fans there right. I knew a goal scored and I said to myself that has to be the kings it has to be because it's a reaction but it's not Anaheim and of course it was Tanner Pearson and he was going to make it six two. So at that point I just basically ran back to the truck because I knew that the game over. But that's just it's it's a rivalry. It's a huge rivalry. Nick touched on earlier is the first time these teams how much have people said. Oh the way to get the game really on the map we just we want Stanley Cup but get on the map and southern California's to have a series between the kings and ducks. Will you get it and I was I was? I was having a difficult time staying still so I had to go for a little walk. Are you talking about the the the media parking lot were literally does take off into a tiny little point? That's a long walk. Jim I had to. I was killing time. I was going by time on my watch. Of course I wasn't listening to the game. I didn't have a radio. I you know I didn't have my phone. I just I was walking and I was just trying to kill time but I knew once I got to the end of the parking lot I had to come back just turned around it. I just WanNa just look at my sheet here guys and we talked about the first parade penalty. Shots a bike quick. And then a minute after that Richard scores to make it three nothing looking at the notes ahead in the second period. Copay tar gotTA goal early in the Second. Make it for nothing. And you're you're looking like you know it's going to happen right. The Kings GonNa win the game but at five eleven. Silverberg saved quick eight minutes. Perry Save Quick. Eleven minutes gets left. Save and I don't write down every save. I just write down the big saves on my on my sheet. So you know. Even though the score was lopsided in the end I mean quick as a huge reason why the kings rival to build lead and maintain the lead as I look back on on some of the the people he stopped him. You look good players here right Silverberg. Perry gets laugh. Perry the penalty shot in the first period. So yet quick certainly earned in game seven. Actually he was the second star. Even though it was a quote blow up for a playoff game I mean I understand why. He wasn't really considered for Conn. Smythe Trophy win. That season. Obviously three series going to game seven and getting pulled in a game or two but I think the expression about the power plays. It's not how many it's when they come. Is it the same thing Jim With saves a goalie performance. Like if if he if a goalie has a bad game or two is it. Erased by having a dominant performance. When it matters I think I think in the playoffs framing of situations. Yes goes to a higher level of importance. I because you're you're so focused on any one game and I think players especially nowadays do a great job in they do a great job in parking it and moving onto the next one but again at my biggest way to go numbers. Wise here is this power. Play percentage is less important or penalty. Kill percentage is less important compared to when you get the big power play goal or when you get the Big Helen. Kill and I think that fits the case for saves also your with quick in in twenty. Fourteen numbers are good. I mean He again was in goal for basically every game. You Won Sixteen Games again like you didn't twenty twelve when he won the Conn. Smythe but I think when you compare as two thousand fourteen numbers to his twenty twelve numbers which are out of sight. I mean probably that gives cause for a lot of people considering playoff. Mvp's to say wasn't quite as good as he wasn't twenty twelve's let's look somewhere else but again I totally agree with Jim It's not it's it's not How many it's it's how and it's not the amount of power play goals is when you get them. It's not the amount of Windsor. Saves. It's one you make them and You know in game seven you know we talked about in Jim. Touched on it It happened in the first round in the Comeback Series of San Jose when the Kings won that game seven on the road The kings big guys took over again Williams and copay Tar and drew doughty and Jonathan. Quick Asala game. Same thing in game seven in the Anaheim series as you mentioned a Williams Charter Richards. Copa Dr Gabric. Jonathan quick did what he had to do. So yeah it was. It was the start of a playoff run There was fun to watch. Because of the tenseness that was involved almost in every series The kings were facing so many elimination games. But when push came to shove the kings came through and it was a number of veteran players that you would expect to get them through. That actually did get them through an Doue Second Stanley Cup. You guys on. I'm not this gets me into trouble when I talked with both the One I'm talking about the goaltenders union but I'm I very rarely go to a goaltender for my selection as the cons might win because I have the can you win the Stanley Cup with. Oh great goaltending. No and you're GONNA get it's given given to me and that's where Jonathan more than most Kinda get. It's a little bit. We were just talking. Also Jesse is sometimes the way how Jonathan makes save can have more Impact than just the one save. That goes on the Scott category because there are some times because of his style he robs somebody like just basically robs them and I think at times that can allow a goaltender light. Quick I think career wise. I'm not comparing Dominic Cautious Jonathan quick. But you take on a single game. I think I think it was like that too. He would rob guys he. You think you have him on one side of the corner and boom right across wide open. That humic and quick was like that so I I think sometimes Johnson's able to get into the head of opposition players and in a playoff series. Sometimes that makes a difference because you get further into series and now the shooters are starting to be perfect and trying to be perfect and you create that doubt and it works against the at I would just add a quick and and you know your your belief and your thought process on. Can you get you win a Stanley Cup? Without great goaltending usually no but going back to two thousand twelve when quick did win the conn spite this playoff MVP. I mean his numbers are just out of this world. I mean you go back to all the goalies who have won a playoff. Mvp Trophy and very few of any Put up numbers like Jonathan Quick and that was for him just a continuation of what he did to get the kings into the playoffs. That year. And Jim you and I talked it I think. What was the number ten or eleven times in time regular season ten times? The king scored one goal or none and they got points all ten of those games. And that's not by accident. That's because the guy he should have won the Vezina trophy that year as well. I'm convinced the only reason he didn't is because he played on the West Coast and I think lundquist wanted that year. He was on the East Coast. But if it's not for John too quick and and in talking to the players after the Kings won the Cup and twenty twelve They said to a man if it's not for him we're not even here. We don't even have a chance because the kings as we all know barely got in as the eighth seed in two thousand twelve and and You know that's where I think for the for those of us who had the opportunity to seek quick throughout that regular season and throughout that playoff run in the eleven twelve season. You're not going to better goaltending from the start of the season through the end of the playoffs probably ever again. I mean that's how good Jonathan Quick was during the regular season that year and the postseason yet will don't don't confuse me saying that it's not. I wouldn't go that way. I went pick a goaltender but it's lower. I think on lie standards than most people. There is no question in my mind that game one and game two in Saint Louis Second Round series two thousand twelve. I ten minutes of both of those games. That's Jonathan quick when the consummate trophy. He was incredible. They were all over the kings and back to timing again early. First ten minutes in both of those games on the road. That's where I believe. He wanted to concentrate because he was over. And above. And if I'm not mistaken set. Nhl Records in that. Two thousand twelve run with one point four one goals against an a nine forty six save percentage As far as goalies that had played a certain number of games. But look if we're GONNA talk about him losing the Vezina trophy doesn't twelve on money. Get Mad so Jim. I'M GONNA have to go to a story that lots of kings fans to this day. Still hold on. Hold on hold on hold on who said he should lose the consummate grover not consummate the VEZINA folks lundquist now. I'm still in the mind as good at East Coast bias. There good suits. He plays the guitar easy. Mommy but But look there's a story from just at the end of the two thousand eleven two thousand twelve regular season. Jim and I'll give you a chance to duck out of responding to this if you want to. But you and Brian Hayward appear on a pre game telecasts then. He flashes his Stanley Cup. Ring at you. Does the Kings winning the series against the ducks in two thousand fourteen and ultimately winning the Cup for the second time? Giving you a second ring. The flash Brian Hayward did that make it any sweeter. It never entered my mind okay for entered my mind. I will say this. There wasn't another. I believe it was in maybe an eleven or previous that Brian. Neither doing another intermission segment together and the question posed was which team is closer to winning the next Stanley Cup? Anaheim already won by the kings are not and I went through some. I think some pretty convincing argument why the Kings would be that team and I believe that was in two thousand eleven and I think if I'm not mistaken a Yes yes you were any takeaway here before we wrap it up. Take away from the Anaheim series Great Series I hope the two teams meet more often in the postseason. Because as we've talked about it's the southern California rival reason and whether or not it's a team like Anaheim for the kings or a Colorado or a Vancouver and Edmonton. You've gotta play these teams in the playoffs and play them more than once or twice. That's when the rivalry to me really gets heated up carries over into the regular season and it gives people something to talk about even when things are going. Well so yeah. I'm just hoping it's been what six years now since they. They met for the First Time. They haven't met since but Boy Very much looking forward to the next Anaheim Kings playoff series and in the series against Anaheim. It wasn't a high scoring series by any means. But it's Kinda goes back to what we started talking about ready to the beginning of this podcast and that is a little bit kings could win in different ways and I think that came out certainly in the first series against San Jose. It's it's coming out even more here against Anaheim where just you know not as clockwork as two thousand twelve but maybe surprising to a lot of people in certain areas where the kings were able to win games in different ways ways that they weren't expected to do and that made him even not much more difficult to beat because they could well. It was a lot of fun going back over this series. So I guess we're going to have. We don't have to ask if you've convinced other because like I said you both picked the two thousand fourteen seven scam win over the Anaheim ducks as the best second round series in kings history. We hope you enjoyed it kings fans. We'll be back in two weeks to talk about the Best Conference Final Series and kings and I'll be really curious to see if you guys come down on the same one and that one Jim Nick. Thanks very much my pleasure. I can't wait to do the next one because it is the best series I have ever seen. Wow THAT'S A. That's a heck of a teaser. 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453: PGA Star Patrick Reed Continues to Annoy Everyone; Sens Lose 8-5 in Edmonton

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453: PGA Star Patrick Reed Continues to Annoy Everyone; Sens Lose 8-5 in Edmonton

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever okay. Welcome to the show everybody. It is a podcast producing to upsets every single weekday in the realm of sports. And whatever you guys brought t for years and tsa twelve hundred. Who's steve worn along with. James jerome jimmy howard things Stevie i'm okay. Okay yeah anyway. It was watching another gulf. The golf is alive and well right the pj. Just keep rolling out tournaments. And patrick reed wins the tournament in san diego this week at torrey pines for farmers insurance and but stevie not without controversy and he never seems to be never seems to be. But if you ever wanted a controversy with a guy in sports you want it with someone you hate okay. And if that isn't bad enough as a fan i don't think he's very well liked by the players and you reminded me that some some time back. He took practice swings and moved the sand in the trap very clearly. But he said he didn't didn't never ice and never did it twice. Never penalize himself right so there's some bad weather there. It's a little moist. There's a rule in golf. If you're if you hit a shot it comes down and embeds into the ground doesn't doesn't bounce buries itself below the level of ground like plugs okay. Everybody knows that that is you get relief. You get dropped and so this is what happens. It's news things on or hits. A shot walks up to his. It was in the ruffy walks up to his ball and determines by himself that it's embedded and pick the ball up and takes a drop first of all what what he's doing is all the players are speaking out against. Is you every anytime you've got. Gotta take a drop steve or a penalty or a free drop or whatever you always call the official in before you ever touch your ball that standard issue. Okay standard. all right. That's why they're out there and he didn't do that so before we finish out the rest of the story all the players regardless of whether they think gene all of them said he should have never done that. Don't touch your ball here. He can not allowed to touch golf ball. Okay until you speak to an official anyways said called the guy over yeah. It was embedded the ball. Never bounce no no one saw it bounce and because of a ball bounces of course it almost hundred percent time. We'll never go in bed. It bounces up a foot anyway. They go to the video anyway. Took a big balance the ball. So now the thing is it couldn't have been embedded and now he was saying well it fell right back into the same pitch mark. You know so. It's not going well for them is not going now. He won the tournament today This was yesterday. That happened says anderson awfully with a quote of clearly. Not happy said. Obviously the talk amongst the boys isn't great. Yeah but but is protected by the tour. And that's all that matters gas so in sally's buying with patrick reed was selling clearly protected by the tour they would've Penalize them yeah. I guess to that point anyway not not the way. You wanna perform stevie. It's got to be so frustrating for the other players though. Because i'm sure that they look back in their career and they can think of you know not just money lost but actual titles championships lost because they had a bad lie. There ball was on a tree ruder. I know whatever it is just a bad situation that a nice little foot wedge or an improvement of ally would mean. They saved two strokes on the whole and they win the tournament and but that's the nature of golf. You you call yourself you. You play with honesty in the. That's that's not just etiquette. It's the law right and it's got to be frustrating for them to see some of the antics that read gets up to right. It's kind of. It's very dignified right. I've always said this if you look at other sports okay. Football baseball basketball Tennis even to that point You know you can get away with cheating okay. No one thinks anything of it right. You cross check a guy in hockey. That's cheating penalty. Okay if you if you cross check them across the back or some rates a penalty. No no player. Stop and go okay. Sorry penalty there. So gulf's different goals different. You do they do that. Most anyone with any integrity does so. It's kind of self police. That sport patrick reed wade align here is at least possible that his ball hit the ground bounced and then came right back down in the actual give it again. I guess it is. I guess it is but what where where he's off the pager. Okay and where where it becomes a. You know really. Patrick is again. Don't ever touch your golf ball. Don't ever touch a golf ball until you until there's an official there particularly with something like that particularly if you are trying to take a drop that will be to your advantage right. But i guess the pga doesn't care that much or he wouldn't have won the tournament. Maybe we're making too much of this. Yeah yeah the question i have. Steve would you wanna be. The guy was so competitive which he is and he's a fantastic player. Originally we started to hate them because early on his crease. That i think i'm going to be a top five player in the world. I remember that will show up patrick. That's for us to say. Knock for you. But i wonder if you'd if you wanna be that guy stevie athey do all your other fellow fellow athletes okay players to stuff it or if i was patrick reed might have even said that night. You know what. I'm gonna give myself a two shot penalty. Take off my score and let's go sunday. Let's do it. I would somehow try and straighten that out you know. I'd almost like rory said it went in doubt he said i would rather be. I'd rather go on the wrong side than the right side of the wrangle. I'd rather be that guy right. and anyway. it's it's going to change this but doesn't bother him man. he's like shut up. He's you know he said he compartmentalize. I'm over it. You guys get over it to but god you're pearson negative about you stevie in that light yet clearly doesn't care i think the ship has sailed on The affection that other. Pg players might have for that guy obviously doesn't care about that part of it but And you know. I you could probably say look at it. Well the pga cleared him. So i guess. I should to sewri sewri benefit of the doubt loss based on past behavior. But that's enough golf. Talk for now When we come back on the show. We're gonna get into some hockey talk. Oh my god that goal by connor mcdavid against the leafs the other night. Who will talk about that. We'll also get into a big blockbuster deal in the national football league and that's coming up. After these words. 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Let eleven points together on the night. They'd five a piece before the game was barely halfway through. So eight is back to the drawing board. Once again for the ottawa senators who still languish in last place overall in the nhl and they get a couple more games against the orleans here in the next week or so looking back to the saturday night. Game as the oilers beat the leafs that connor mcdavid goal was a thing of beauty. Was it not like he went around jake muhsin like he was playing in his are muslim. Talking about like muslim was playing his very first pro hockey game embarrassed. The guy goes in on a breakaway scores. Just vintage connor mcdavid stuff. There's not many guys in the league who can do that is tracy how good the guy is. How fast is whatever. I saw a bunch of comets and his lateral speed has his flat out speed. His hands is is all this stuff you know all of it adding up to what the guys the guys leading in all categories you know when it comes to scoring goals it makes me think those stevie if if i was to coach a kid even growing up if the kids growing up playing junior I would because it puts fear in defendant. Okay and a guy guys trying to defend a guy is speed. That's what i would go for. I would. I would say if you've got to pick one thing. Okay become the fastest guy in the league or one of the fastest. And you're going to get some room you're going to get you're going to. I don't know what you think. I mean stickhandling and all that stuff is good in passing and and whatever else you know hitting the games right now for sure. It's all about eve domain question. Yup yup guys are just. You can see them kind of freeze you know. They're not because like where he's he's gonna go somewhere here but i don't know he's to go and it's and i'm supposed to try and stop them and the next thing he's behind you. You know your crazy crazy. That's why most powerplays are set up with that neutral zone dropped pass because it allows for guys to come through the neutral zone with speed and gets defenders on their heels slaughter. People hate it because when it goes wrong. It doesn't look very good but if it's done the way it's designed it actually is a very effective way to break out power play and it. It takes advantage of speed. And that's how they did it game. The old others that was. That was the move with paul. Coffey coming coming up as you say coming up through the neutral zone right and drop it off and use frigging steamrolled his way in there really. Oh sure i remember that. Watch some of that stuff where they dropped it off to cough coming out of their own end for sure. Oh sure i mean. I remember the you know. Leave it for coffey down near the goal line and let him roll but one guy taking get through most of the neutral zone and getting over the red line and then slingshot at back to the defensive zone. You came from that's to me. I think that's a new revelation here in the last five years. Well i'm not saying it was exactly like connor mcdavid but but he has had the speed radio. The big the big speed right the other fight i was like why do they edmonton oilers wanted. I decide to wear uniform. That looks very much like their hated. Rival calgary flames seem like an odd choice. The oilers must lead lead the league in alternative jerseys and of course this is all the adidas thing But i saw them in another one. That was like you know blue with orange numbers and such it was like i don't know it. Seems like their second alternative jersey. That i've seen already this year and the league the hell with wearing. Yeah what. I'm just looking at the leaf. Steel kinda the seventies eighties look and they wear numbers that are gray or dark blue. They have a great outlined but blue so it looked like nobody had numbers on. I know i know. I know how the how the marketing people look at that and go. Yeah that's a good one there. Everyone everyone they won't know who the guy is. But that's okay play by play nightmare. Can i have announced matt jersey. I think it's thirty five. I couldn't see yeah. Well marine's background. Yeah remember i mean. We're old enough to recall a game with. Nhl was played without helmets and that was actually kind of cool. It was very safe in the way of skull fractures and such but it was cool from a viewer ship standpoint. You didn't need to see the number because you could identify the guy very quickly just based on hair colour hairstyle facial hair. Whatever it is a everybody was very instantly identifiable and then the helmets game and then the advisors came and now they've wiped out the numbers in toronto fairly fan. You don't know who your word i can name. I can name two possibly three guys that i remember playing in the nhl without helmets. One was here. Craig mctavish okay And hang on. hang on. hang on hang on. who's the other guy. I've never played without a helmet. Surely you remember a time when the nhl was all guys like ninety five percent no helmets. Well no i. When i was a kid. You mean yeah. I'm trying to think after the mid eighties when i when i I can tell you some of the guys if you want. Yeah so you get craig matab. Which was the last guy to play without a helmet. brad marsh. Yeah that's sick. And if i year an auto actually. It's to imagine a team as young as the ottawa senators. Even they had a guy who didn't play. We'll play without a helmet there others other guys as well. That's still plotted around late. In the game rondo. Gay was very late Guiding smith anyone else see court not wear a helmet. Yeah he. he went helmet. I think his whole career went pretty late in the game. Was there a tough guy in philly to who didn't A tough guy in philly. Anywhere all philly. Yeah if go backwards. That's about as far back as i can. Go mccosh and brad marsh k. Changing gears interesting speech. The new jersey devils new head coach this year in lindy. Ruff veteran coaches bounced around the league for years buffalo. Dallas and now in new jersey and jersey's actually pretty good start they were one of the teams that did not make that expanded playoffs back in the summertime and now they're they're a point out of making the playoffs this year and their newly aligned division. So it's a bit of a spicy the devils where they are and lindy russ getting some credit for that and he gave a speech after their win This weekend he beat the panthers and he's doing this standard thing you know game puck to this guy kudos to this guy and then he threw in a bit of a dig at pk. Sue ban at the end of the speech says lindy ruff after the game the other day and i worked hard the whole game convulsing back multiple winners for any game first goal game minors walk lindy ruff taking a hard run at pk. Sue ben and he immediately wide like. I'm just kidding. Just kidding and messing around. He could tell. The room didn't mind it at all. It was funny. I don't know i don't necessarily appreciate it. I couldn't see him in the video but he seems like the kind of guy that That will receive as good as he gives fun. Lovin guy for sure but it got me thinking about the effectiveness of these These coach speeches whether it's before or after a game. If you're a player here in twenty twenty one jim Is the raw raw speech. The sometimes Meant to motivate or the angry coach. Also designed to motivate or the joke in around coach. What is any of that stuff stuff you need as a player or want. They wouldn't let me steve do any speaking. Even if i was the head coach because i joke way too much. Okay i love ripping guys i. Can't i like it. I couldn't quite hear what he what was. I thought it was minor that he said so no his first game. Pk not being minus. I love. I love that shit and listen hockey. Players hockey players can take it better than any other athlete. Any any other athlete. How how they how they get on each other a little bit than have fun and rip each other. It's great it's great. if you remember. I do a lot of it with russ right where we talk about. Games the stories and stuff like that and russ's got endless amount of stories about hilarious comments guys. Make on the ice just got his chest on. It was one of my all time. Favorites where guy takes a shot at the goalie. And like he doesn't he doesn't pick a quarter. He just sort of blindly rips this thing and it hits the goal you right in the middle of the chest. Yeah i like it. I like it. It's different for everybody though when you think about it. It's a tough thing to be a coach. Because you wanna be able to do that that kind of thing. But it's not one size fits all particularly now in twenty twenty one. Everybody had a thicker skin. I think thirty years ago today. it's It's a situation where you really gotta know your guys and obviously rough thinks. Pk sue ben can handle that sort of thing but You know there are certain circumstances. Like the john tortorella fact when you're in there kicking garbage cans calling guys out. You're gonna lose some guys. You are literally going to have guys check out on you particularly today and obviously tortorella cognizant of that in our last episode or whatever episodes last week we talked about that he actually said in that interview with christine simpson on sports net. That today's athlete is a software athlete. And yet he still. He still persists still does his fire and brimstone thing and rippin guys show It's It's a tough balance to be a coach to try and get the best out of every single guy when every single guy is different. Yeah what one of my favorite i. I don't know who it was coach player. Whatever i think it was one of their players. Got a breakaway okay. And he's notoriously slow speedsters and they said what about that. Breakway you know and i think the coach said yeah. I'm surprised we didn't get a delay of game penalty when the guy you know they use that also in a guy takes a shot okay. That he thinks he's got the ripping. Lightning slapshot got delay of game penalty to see that in a shootout situation. Where the guys you know who picked the puck up at center ice skate the boards and they go over to the other side and skate to the boards like i feel like they should just blow that dead and call it delay of game because that's exactly what it is. Yeah anyway i. I'd rather see that than the you know. Good effort boys hundred ten percent had her back all that shit. Yeah right. I like i like what lindy did. Now there's another thing. Nhl story and it speaks to the state of today's player and That some guys come in and Well they're not the they're not necessarily the of humans and that's a guy named tony angelo. And i don't want to go that far and call him. You know somebody who's not a great human writing like apathy certainly had run ins with people off the ice This is a guy that has been placed on waivers by the new york rangers. But he certainly interested in kind of a player because guys defensemen men he's he's at twenty. Fourteen draft picks still a pretty young guy and so only about twenty four years old and like two years ago. Eight fifty three points for a defenseman in today's nhl getting fifty three points that's a potentially valuable asset right by me and he just seems to get into one scrape after another Both on and off the ice he was a lot of people buried him for his take on donald trump. he's big trump supporter Ended up quitting twitter because of Trump's getting banned There was there was also What else did he do. He also got abusive and official official. Had ahold hold of after a scrum and he basically started pounding on the pounding but trying to break free of the guys grip and that's an automatic three-game suspension. The guy has just one thing after another with the sky comments. Exactly yeah some commentary that he had back in the ontario hockey league to run ins in that area and this latest one i guess he had an altercation in one of the recent rangers games with starting goalie alexander gordyev and they patiently unaltered a physical one and that seemed to be the final straw for the rangers. A guy who is that young. They just signed him in october to a fairly lucrative deal. I think it's close to five million dollars a year and Fifty three points a couple of years ago and they have decided. Yep we're putting that guy on waivers. They tried to trade him apparently now. He's outright on waivers and unfortunate because the guys world world-class skill offensively anyway. Can't check his hat. Defensively but weird situation for sure how. How bad is it really though steep. How bad so you're getting. You're getting what's coming through the media. You know because because when you look at him okay. Guy got in a fight with one of his players you know. That's not bad. Show some grit. It's shows something that happens right training camp practice from time to time we're players fighting practice so you look at that. That wouldn't be enough to to you know and then stuff from his past in his junior days. Well that's a long time ago Pulling himself away from a raff okay. Sort of a dumb thing but how do you. How do you get called on the carpet and it has nothing to do with how you are on the ice as a player with your skill right. There's a little in there because again defensively he's poor but that's something you can work with a guy who can from the defensive position put up those kinds of points You can work on it. Let me dion. Coverage honestly is the easiest thing there is to teach. It's not easy but it's all the things you have to teach one of the easier things. Yeah it's like Who's the kid from the cleveland browns. Who came to. Ottawa then played in hamilton montreal The quarterback johnny manziel. Yeah johnny manziel. Right it's like he was a he. Didn't he win the heisman he did. Yeah and then this guy everything but you know. He's gets moved around from team to team camp because of shit away from the football field is like oh my god you know now. Maybe had some addiction problems. I don't know but there must be way more to this guy. Stevie everyone will give you the benefit of the doubt and everyone will give you a second chance particularly when it comes to sports particular when it comes to sports. You're not gonna crucify guy for making mistakes all the time unless he makes them the time. Then you've got to trade him but but you know that happens day in day out so this guy he must be an omelette. This guy certainly red flags everywhere. So we'll keep an eye on that story and we'll take a timeout on the program back with our final thoughts. After these words. My job is to get the best deal available to you with companies at my disposal. 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Kings vs Jets Postgame

All The Kings Men

28:12 min | 1 year ago

Kings vs Jets Postgame

"Take it apart. Board by speak. Still have to buckle up. Why wait shooting? This is an all the king's men post game. podcast extent up at the line at the poke check. Hits the PUCK the treadle Louis Louis Sidesteps Potato Lewis food halfway on its second position to the near boards who sparked their it's second nature. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome making fans. I am Jesse Cohen. This is all the king's men Jackson. Blondie had the night off so I didn't bring my equipment but then the kings went ahead and beat the Winnipeg jets the team with the best road record in the NHL. Dave Joseph and I just had to say something about it happened at my little laugh. Mikes so apologies holiday with the sound quality and the Zamboni thrown away in the background. But if you can handle some noise WanNa hear me ran about how much I'm enjoying the season then king sands this one's for you. We are high above the nicer. Press Boxes Staples Center. You got it right. I did joining me tonight. Dan just majored in Jesse. I'm buried after a two one. Win Over Winnipeg. Can I just start off this podcast by saying the first twenty minutes of hockey at Staples Center tonight. I'm going to see the best period of hockey at the. La Kings have played this entire. Susan I would disagree. I will not contest that. Thank you podcast over already. Nice job but he could wear listings such an awkward low five Cam Yet look. I have been saying repeatedly and I'm getting a little tired of everybody and save Senator Tom. It'd be like I'm an idiot when This team is good. Joseph on certain nights there go Jesse. Look that's is a winnipeg a good team most nights where they get tonight. They were not uncertain. Knife Winnipeg jets are good luck. And you'RE GONNA know team goes eighty. Two Leno never happened and I'm throwing October out Learning a learning period learning window at am. I don't think they're done right. We said that McClellan would need whatever fifteen twenty games to sort things out to get a sense of WHO's GonNa plan what line line etc.. They made a couple changes. I don't think they're done making changes. Obviously the forward injury and he's GonNa come back and routine is in three. He's out. There are changes that still need to be made but we still do not and yet now what the ceiling or the floor of this team is. But I'm here to tell you that earlier in the season I was concerned that they may finish with fifty three points. Lower than what the USA Today predicted and that each team had not look man seven five and two in November. That's a ninety four point pace. They're not gonNA finish. Ninety Ninety. Four October was so bad even if they maintained the pace they set an October. The best they can hope for is eighty-five so layup at on it was that bats and let's all put away our pearls stop punching them about. Oh No there you're gonNA finish in the black hole like no. Don't worry they'll finish the bottom of the league. That's how bad October's in order to finish with more than eighty points they'd have to go like you know Ted in three every month. No it's not that they're not thus hinders you're not hitching your star that way. They're just good which compared to last season is great. I don't understand why everybody's resisting this nice everybody. I don't know whether the small pocket of people resistant while you want. I'll give you a clue Yennin. Dr Possibly might be saying. Did you watch the game in San in Jose yesterday I saw a game where the kings were all over San Jose and then a couple bounce went wrong way and it was one nothing student. Nothing important with the game was. Oh but that's like that happens. The game's like that happen. But that's why people might say I get. I get dent granted. It was an afternoon game but the day after Thanksgiving teams after play knows for sure is with the schedule is right. You can't say Oh we want seven o'clock game instead and what they're not like I said they're not contenders they're going to lose rough games and they're still changes to be made. I'm not saying this is a complete product. We can stop the rebuild the you know the reconstruction process and everybody you know. Pack up her tools and and and server planning the brave and the silver center a sweater. Saturday yeah yeah yeah I mean I'm just saying where silver sweaters every game while I don't know about that Bonilla they have a top line. which now we're going on three years now? Last last year was but his season before that I follow armed Brown right arbiter. MVP season everybody. Everybody in the universe can write as many pieces they want about how you you know. A contending team doesn't have you know I follow as the left. Winger need more Mugabe Blah. I don't care hope. It's on pace. As for another ninety point season he had ninety two years. I I still get not interested in. This team is what it is. And that's the top line there fine so going agreed the Wagner Tampa Bay in Luzon line. I still lead the score more but as far as I'm concerned they're defective third line. They keep the puck and the other teams zone. They're not giving up scoring chances. They're creating buzz momentum the frustrating the other team as far as I'm concerned that's perfectly fine third line and I think conveys a thousand times more effective as a winger than as a center. Ironically to me anyway I saw doing a lot of things tonight then that he was supposed to be able to do as a center that he couldn't do as a winger he now. He's doing it as we're doing this. I don't know I think he's on his home. I think says Zombie who that the fourth line. Listen if anybody who knows Garfield Comics anybody who complains about Clifford or Lewis. I'm putting you in a box. A male nude Abu Dhabi like neural. The kid like I'm just over it out. Stop even tired of having the conversation like you are simply wrong and I'm just not going to dimed. I'm I'm done dignifying the complaints with perfectly capable fourth. Absolutely Mam Ella Republicans got what three goals in singles. Yeah I mean yet and that I and that goals and I was all over to Lewis. Oh yeah well in that in that the line the Lozad line had Winnipeg hinden their zone for a good thirty seconds. Forty five seconds and then the next line came out and handmade again. Is Ashley and that's not happening. That hotline doesn't start that up to begin with the cyclic. Now now and and Winnipeg scramble around on what are we doing and even though copays are has scored in two games his lying is for Justin goals right so so finally now what we need to figure is second line and we've known them right. Okay Strana Mr not a singer. So it's full rolling Carter. They have good Games. They have bad games. You know we're messing around with. WHO's their line you know is is love is grunt Stroem as whoever like? It's and we need to figure that out and there's fifty something games left sorted out. Maybe some of them get maybe one of them gets traded. Maybe both of them get traded. Maybe gave Vardi Plays Twenty Thirty Games in Ontario and looks as good as he did last night and becomes the Second Line Center Pretty Goodbye Louisville series last night for those seen any set off any morning golden says he should've had like two or three goals three assists yeah I mean he was as far sooty was the best player on the ice in his third game. If I bring a year off advocating six months off after after yet every rain win which what you want. I asked him about that when he turned to the bed. To the goals mentioned you know thumped his chest. Huma wouldn't tell me what he said not surprising could he could be a piece on that. Second Line listened the trade deadline February. I would not be surprised that this team taints. Obviously I don't think seven five twos likely for the rest of the way but if they're a game. AM five hundred or a game by five hundred every month for the rest of the way come trade deadline. I'm not surprised guy guy or to get traded and you get some you know a second the mind of I duNno Florida Grundstroem. And whoever's left leg would that be so terrible No we don't know wealth might i. I don't think it would be on paper now. But they're all kinds of things that are not her Start the season. That short look didn't pan mound going so good now so will it work to see it by right any any combination there could happen depending on what happens. Trade them soft akin piece or two or three of boot new one of the things going into this game that I was happiest about was I saw the lineup. And the defense pairs digital one of the the defense pairs they they put doubting Walker back together. Yup The kept Ryan Rob Roy as Roy and Ryan and win and then and in the other payer was Lou and And I'm glad they did that. That was my assumption in last game with Martinez out do called up my my assumption. Was the Likud go into the lineup. Because they wouldn't want to split up Walker downy because even though splitting them up and keeping in line of zoo three right handed shot advancement on the bright side in all on all repairs. I I don't think he's having a great season and I think Walker saving his season like I'll just keep saying it in until they told me not to well it's it's reminiscent of of doughty when daddy was paired with former in in reverse So the the reason to me anyway. The reason why former endowed he worked was because doughty kind of dictated the play away roddy kind of took it upon himself and for what was just kind of there to be that guy. That's back and make safe play written not knocking dirt forward and they seem to work wealthy similarly with Walker doughty doughty doesn't have to do everything rights walkers there. He's got a little offensive spurt. Suzy Megan some nice fascinates the fastest tonight so so doubt it feels like maybe he doesn't have to do everything or or more. Try too hard and put himself out of position so then he kind of stays home war and then every you know it it in terms of the team defensively guests. 'cause he's not taking those chances exactly and this was the genius in my mind to the Muslim dowdy because everybody always was expecting doughty. Ready to play with Sean O'Donnell or Ross Gary or right at staying home rent barring sort of slab type defensive and then you go negatives Zenda and Russia's the doughty can do against Jersey or the Rangers and the finals and you make all these sluice dowries completely underrated defensively. And when you had him with Jake Muhsin who occasionally easily makes the odd Turnover straight up the middle of his own on a break out its Asian one out of twelve the anyway or maybe more it was twelve percent but anyway regardless the point is douty was defensive enough responsibly while also being offensively creative to to end you're right exactly right those thing you ABC's play tonight you know he would come over to spot walker to give Walker permission to step you know to move further down the zone into the face off circle to make some of those cross ice passes to set up those plays. That's I mean that's the best pair they've got going. I won't say it's a great pair but it's the best player they've got going and it allows Ryan and Roy to to be what I will continue to argue. They are which is a perfectly dependable perfectly reliable third bear defense. They scored tonight and again. No goals against them. Well in the third pair was on the ice late with chewed. Three four minutes left in the game that pairing was out on the ice. It's not like the coach. Said Okay you got it you guys are not GonNa see the ice for the rest of the game. He put him out there. I mean effectively. They were the second pair tonight wreck and I and I think that they do or the third he got some power playtime second period Korea shore. Let's let's say they got a little bit of power play time. I don't think it was a lot with Iraq you for the first part with I actually didn't have any power play slowly. The kings had one. Not According to this I mean I don. I certainly don't remember seeing one but but regardless of what you're right you're right. But they were out there with czar and his warning out there. MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA kill I. I don't know but I mean but but essentially thirty years. Yeah I think it was. The third parents on it was hot. In lieu new playing hockey played. Eleven forty six do played ten forty six even strength And on the penalty kill. Let's take a look right Ryan and three minutes forty three seconds of penalty illegal time for entrust their three minutes. Twenty seven seconds of Matt. Roy took two minutes and sixteen finally drew out so me like they are a reliable and in their in their proving that they're good defensively at good enough defensively to stay out there and kill penalties. That's right is what you need and the loop pairing didn't seem like there was any drop off their either. It didn't seem like there was not my goal. Don't but those guys on you know when when forward does come back into the lineup yet I will be perfectly happy with reuniting uniting forward doughty okay and then from there walker in and Hutton I think is in your second because that look the point is I think Walker walkers good enough at this point. Did anybody put him with. It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine right and doubting forward we've got I don't know what three or four years season's worth evidence you're getting yeah hopefully hopefully works if not will you put the Walker Daddy back together again and then Ryan Ryan I just need to score for more. We always knew that part of its second line. They don't have any reliable secondary scoring and at third lines. God who get better athletes on the net. But they're still only eh nine or ten games into the experiment. I'm still prepared to give them another ten or fifteen James Stewart really. Yeah any and then he like I said even if they never wind up being scoring line looks stole king. Louis weren't exactly filling the net with pox. You don't say but but but you knew that they weren't going to burn you and they knew that they king was GonNa win his board battles sensibly rules exactly stole is GonNa win all the center of the so if that right and you saw lozad tonight again I did see blades. Eliza as long as they're controlling play as long as they're not giving up turnovers as long as they're not allowing the other team to have them back in the zone and they were running around and they're not only refined. Yeah and and these teams getting so much better at the little things you know making diving diving. Plays to kill you. Not to get the puck out of his own getting sticks in passing lanes keeping the PUCK in the zone. As it's coming you know there was a ton of plays not only tonight tonight But last game against San Jose named for that against the islanders where they were making. You know they're just extending themselves to keep the puck in zone right right on the Blue Line knocking down. I mean just little things Dave. I like this team. You know here's where I have the issue They played the islanders Wednesday night. Yeah he played a real good game the beat and islanders team which had come in. Red Hot They go to San Jose the lane egg And then they come back against Winnipeg and they play arguably and not even really arguably the best twenty eight minutes. I've seen them play all season. Absolutely control the game. I think they all shot winding first period. Nineteen five or nineteen six whatever it was and then you say which team is it. which what team are we looking at is the team that can beat the islanders and can absolately dominate a really good Winnipeg team or is it the team that went to San Jose to play one o'clock game on a Friday afternoon and was kind of like Nah so we've said all season that they don't care but which short seems GonNa show up the consistency? We've had all season long. This this season is going to be about answering questions Ray. So now they play. What like Thirty Road Games? It's twenty five out of thirty on the road. I mean I think they have four home games. In December four home games in January and maybe like five and February before they play all of them at home and March through in high net holding market. Yeah like the next three months are basically like all on the row. Yeah so we're GONNA find out. They played three on the road to start the season right. They had the three game trip through Canada at the beginning of November. That didn't go well and it did not go well and then. They've had bulk of games at home. So listen their own to since the Walker Dowdy pair got put together and the forward lines were reimagined. Bright with campaign moved to wing and PORCO getting more playing time and other players getting significantly less playing time. They're going to go on the road and we're going to find out the answer answer to that question because I don't know Riley I duNno. I think they're good. I think they're going to be good on the road. Everything we've ever heard all the cliches about you on the road you bond with honesty. He made up team dinners all that stuff all the time. This is the first real like they're gonNA go they're going to be on the. GD wrote food for the whole month. I think we're gonNA find out the incident rush. I'm excited to find the answer. That question and I want to I. I've said it before but also it again joins three times in mice five plus seasons of working with and for the Kings three times where I've ever been told what I couldn't say one was This lava voinov thing and that was literally because it was an ongoing legal matter and I symptom couldn't comment right. It wasn't like they were afraid of me saying wrong thing it was like nobody can say nothing to nobody ever the second one. It was last year in early November. I wanted to go on. TV for my intermission segment and call the season's done and start advocating for tank and it got to the day of and were finally came down like now. We're not doing that. It's too early something like I am not a this. This enthusiasm for the team is not homer ism wreck or being accompanied or but I mean I've been accused of adding purple sunglasses on. It's like I am not you know me. I'm not captain. Optimism would know your Sunshine Sinan Pasha inevitable. So what so what. I'm telling you I've refreshing. I liked this team. I'm excited about this team. I think this the and I want to hear any of the black hole. Talk like listen capable already looked amazing if next year. You're telling me the centers on this team or Andrzej Koper gave velocity like lasagna. Wake Lozad AWW and Nikolai precaution. You're good with the helm okay. I still don't think it's contender status. They're still need. They're still work that needs to be done. But I'm all right with that and I would take an eighty five point finish over Anna Anna. You know eighth overall pick in the draft or maybe better lottery roy rather than this sort of like will they need. Did you know like let's just well in the season. And Lily design. Build off of that and build on your optimism. You've got those four centers. You also have Jerry Anderson Dolan. You also have Alec Circa you. Also I mean I. Totally forgot about Alastair but last night scoop berry realized of. You're right and you could go down the list to have many options. uh-huh so if if organism plane grade or if lozad takes a step backwards whatever your other pieces right journey Anderson Dolan will probably be here next. Yes coltan and I don't mean to to you know canonize gave Lardy already after three right knee Joel. I'm just saying good. He looks great. Yeah and an forward played his conditioning assignment. Two Games on conditionings got into a fight in his first game and then Played well in the second game so I would guess. He's he's ready to entertain our Anderson Endures. Emmy do the list every time so there's a lot of pieces there. Would it be nice if the kings could get the overall offers the first robbers sure will be great but do I really want to sit through six more months of the you know worm worm this league not. I really don't want to see games like today. I'd really love to see them. Go seven good game. Seven five and two every month for the rest of the season finished with eighty five points and draft Otto eighth overall or or you know whatever. The game against the islanders was a good game now. The Game Against Winnipeg was a good game the game against Chicago and Detroit that they want good games not great onen but in this case the islanders in Winnipeg yield. Go Navy Vegas I mean I mean that's what this team is capable. It's just can they do it on a nightly basis most nights nights the only hitch in my whole vision of them being good. Is that most of these winds of common home. Okay most of if not. It's it's not all I'd have to check Like I said they're Owen to on the road since the changes. But that's why I said this season's about answering questions. They now head out on the road but they head on on the road with the confidence of going seven five and two. Jonathan quickest back. They have a third line had talked pair. That gone you know Campbell has been playing rough but he looked great tonight Those babies is on really liked him not to leave his crease. Quite so much. He played the PUCK. A couple of times mind. Yeah Yeah he's not good at that. I thought that was like it's not pops. Yeah no he can't and look that he made with whatever second left unbelievable. Yeah Yeah Yeah Very calm employs and get out of position and yet he looked really good tonight. So let's I first of all Anaheim Monday night. Yeah what should be a good game right. I'm anxious to see how they played that game road game by what's staple south exact wreck. It's a road game. But and then they're back two nights later at staple center the face Alexander Ovechkin washing the capitals. I think would those two games will a little bit more yet can they. Can they build off young. These last two last three game bright played. Well can they build off of that. Carry that into the next two. I think that's the big question. If they lay eggs in those games then he kinda go back to well. which which team is? I'd take a one one split split because frankly they were too shirt. They've gotta be right like going on the road beating in. I'm in their building Anaheim's struggling it's our buildings but saint stories last last year right Gibson keeps them early and then they just don't have anything yet rather than Gibson they fall apart so you need to take into them Alexander Ovechkin Not Human Scott. Another Patrick Tonight. Somebody broke down like the his career. In five years Johnson was like the averages point six one goals a game in the first five years of his career ever his point six one goals a game in the second five years the average his point six on God's is amazing unbelievable You pass crappy. I mean why not Mike stays healthy. L. Theater seems to get hurt. No He's in. Great shape could pass grits and safer and goals are down all the way around League rescue. Silva's the Yay a million assist this guy so you lose to Washington. Whatever I mean obviously a win would be lovely but you know you see as like a craigslist flags one how they stack up how they play even if they lose the play? Well you say okay. Well we're on the right track. Exactly Yeah Let's go ahead and do the play of the game. The player the game play begin play of the game. I'm going to say it is the Yocum Ryan goal. I liked that. He got his first goal as king. I liked when it came and was going to see the first goal of the game only because it was early and kind of set the momentum right off the top but I think that Ryan goal was kind of a seeing eye shot. I don't know the goalie oversaw it But I think that really gave the kings of good like kick in the behind. Nine say we could win this. We're we're in we're in it now. We are focused. We are in the game to win it. We know we can win the game so I think that's the play of the game. I'm GONNA cheat I'm getting never win. I'M GONNA say the penalty. Kill all of us lots of first because there were so many plays whether it Qatar diving to knock a pocket of his own with a stick whether it was walker getting is steeped in passing lanes whether it was Ryan in Roy you know clearing during the zone when I mean there were just so many hustle plays just like like. I've said this before but I have no problem not cheering in the press box for a goal. But I still can't to stop myself from clapping when Somebody Clears Zone on a penalty co and doing the GOP leg. You're right it's still natural again open And there were just so many of those tonight right Like I said the culprits are one is on the stands out the most for me because you know there is like on his belly stick up for you man is still trying. Yeah Eh Zombie like I said. It's a bit sheet but I'm GonNa go with the penalty kill Player of the player of the game soups on Jack Campbell. Thirty three saves look. It's pretty steady all night. Long other than the coming out of the crease to play the puck going off his backhand and shooting and rims around the boards a couple of times I loved voice vice often Campbell tonight. He seemed so steady in there. He didn't seem to get flustered. He didn't seem to the out of position I liked what I saw from Campbell tonight so I would say Jack Campbell. Number thirty thirty six is my player of the Game Jesse you I'm going totally off the board of the penalty killers. No longer than the nick. Labrador can okay who Who Only played eight minutes and twenty five seconds or anything like yeah? He barely played. Yeah Yup but great play. Yeah and and look. I think that he got a bad rap because he didn't come over here for years and then he did come and then he got sent down to H.. L. Blue credibility go big Russian like hasn't cried about it nope has dren goanywhere. Plays what eight or nine games so far this season and pretty engaged tonight actually homes in the ice and does his job and and scores goals from the fourth line. Yet and Snyder was the game winner. Think Mama Sadie you're correct and You know the sense to do he did it so so good for him. Yeah player the game SARS. Yeah Um Anyway look steams awesome Thanksgiving's awesome This team is awesome. Thanksgiving's off. Yeah it's like okay. So you're sticking with this team is awesome swell argue then the they're good that's all I'm saying. They're not great not so they're awesome. They're not contenders they're not awesome. There's still work to be done. Don't get as good. You don't get it confused but I'm just saying I don't. This is not a fifty five point team. This is not a seventy one point team. Even though they may wind up with point somewhere in the neighborhood of seventy five to eighty which is frankly what I predict. You know when when Vegas came out and said that there are over under seventy three point four even though I'm not allowed to bet on sports anymore But I was saying like Oh man I wish I could because I just thought there's no way there's bad as they were last year in October they were worse and in November. They've been way better getting much better and I just think they're so anyway. We're seeing the fruits of their labor. That's right now Kings fans if you're still listening at this point we have a ton of odd gas and other audio for your this week so clear. Your phone's clear schedules. We got the rainy day. PODCASTS got Fox and fast we got replaced with the rain game where velocity scored his first goal. We're GONNA have replace this game where the Kingsmead as we Winnipeg we've got this post game. We've got Maybe ducks postgame from Anaheim. Without a capsule this law it is a lot so shop Jesse. I'm getting PAT on the back. Appreciate it you deserve. So we're going to wrap it up for now because you've got a lot to listen to over the next seven days yet to at King's thanks for listening with.

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215: Can Bobby Ryan Now Make a Comeback? Pete Rose Tries Again, Jimbotron Performs Amateur Vasectomy

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215: Can Bobby Ryan Now Make a Comeback? Pete Rose Tries Again, Jimbotron Performs Amateur Vasectomy

"Steve One all right greetings. Everybody welcome to the project objects featuring daily dialogue interviews and laughs of the hottest stories in sports. It's all presented by all Insurance Ontario and RB computing shooting coming up today. Bobby Ryan is back skating with the Ottawa. Senators is there a spot for him at this stage of the Game Super Bowl Rally Travis. Calcio is an interesting character and he has some things to say. We've got Hockey Stories fifteen hundred points for Joe Thornton. Anthony Anthony Mantha suffers I ape punctured lung and Buffalo Saber unique happening right now. Still Ahead here on the project. Shout to another great new listeners. Come on board to support the project Silva go Dan who also themselves writing for our website for membership and sponsorship. Details Jackets Steve. W PROJECT DOT com. Thank you for being with us. We hope you enjoy joy shell to my left here or you might be to mind right. Jim Jerome how Jim Goodstein they. Ah there good how. `Bout you I'm great good deal good deal Silva go day go down there and see Sylvain. There's a little rhyme there. I came up with while you were mentioning that it's terrible. You WanNa take back on that one. I brought that up. Do you remember. There was a a parody dude in baseball who made sentences out of guys last names. It was hilarious areas. so He'd say their first name and then it was like the one. I remember the most burt bly eleven so when his introduce L. His name. You'd say burt be home by eleven. That remember that Guy I do. I don't know I I don't know if you guys did it. That Chris Berman did it for a long time. I'm from colorful names but there's also some guys on. CNN Like van will write us to do things like that. So right. There's a throwback. Yeah Yeah Ah so I don't. I don't even know what became of that guy but anyway I don't know exactly which guy you're talking about but there were a number of guys are quite famous for doing stuff like that breath well it was funny they with a bunch of names and the one I didn't like was jungle. DOUCHEBAG JEROME I mean. Where's where's the play? PLAY ON WORDS THERE Steve. I don't really you know. Where's the alliteration? Where something in there that doesn't that doesn't rhyme? That didn't make me laugh. Though so mission accomplished Bush. Did you ever see the one with Ray Romano on Saturday night. Live where he basically was trying to do that. Be that kind of sports caster in In the context of the sketch and he just like some of them were like the worst catchphrases of all time he'd be like see Malagasy that balls out. uh-huh Sassy Malagasy. Well there's great homerun call a in in in sports. Baseball is the best for the home. Run calls even is is it. Rick generates the guy and in Buffalo. I don't know if he's still calls the Games he was he was he was really really good. Big One was Pat Lafontaine right at Christmas time. Lafontaine got a big goal. And so he's like screw la La la La la La fall awesome. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah he's he's known for a bunch but but baseball guys. Are you know the one I I worked. I sat in one time doing color baseball game here for the trappers and because the the guy was alone not tougher job in baseball. You really appreciate Vince. Gully right who did all the dodge dodger games for all those years but he did Abiam self never had a color guy right and it is entire career. I think so I think so. He did all those. You've done baseball do you imagine that With like all of them now have two two guys for sure often three when they call a baseball game right. Because there's so much downtime right. It's all downtime. It's all downtown right. It takes one pitch takes fucking nanosecond and the rest is downtime anyway. The Guy We're al colts was his name. He he was a longtime Evanston guy still around and he loved making those home. Run calls or even fly ball calls or a Hits you know. Even it's frozen rope and all they hit that on a frozen rope at the end of the any they'll go up like a lion down like a lamb. We're we're all die five all. That's a big tall Canada cream court for the left fielder that one that one is up up up and goodbye. Mr Spalding. That one's Outta here open. Open Your Window Mrs Brown. This one's coming home right. Talk Shit but the problem was Steve. He couldn't see very well. You know Kinda need to be able to see to be ineffective play. Hey by play man because you're all about theater of the mind. You're painting a picture for the listener. If you can't see you're not very helpful. Yeah he could see the infield right he you could see the Info but but he couldn't see long fly balls and but he loved making the call and I remember being in there and he goes there there. It is there tim. Curls get underneath Nathan. I left field and we're all done for this guy. The guy looked dropped. The ball and the guy stole second. No we're not going anywhere yet. I'll know it went off the tip of his glove. Oh Okay we're still alive my favorite Baseball play by play story. I think it was an old the Yankees Guy. Don't always John Sterling or somebody of his ilk But it was basically. He's getting long in the tooth. He basically leaves for a commercial. She'll break and then he rolls back in just as they've come back on air and all of a sudden he's calling the action and he panics because as a new guy I out in Centerfield and he's not sure who it is but up on the board he sees the center field and some guy playing center field right now. Is John Fogerty Liberty. y'All John Forward to that one and makes the grab Well of course Jon Fogarty. The lead singer of as a solo artist had a big hit called center field old and he missed the fact they had just done name that tune contest during the between the innings. Fantastic I thought beautiful. I've embarrassed myself many times Stevie TV. So I love to see when other guys do it. Remember the boom goes the dynamite kid. Doing the college broadcast. I just looked at it. Stevie boom boom goes the dynamite. Oh my God. I can't believe the kids are like you say he's doing this audition. He can't even form words. No He's going his brain broke and uh-huh goes and let's take a look at this the last week's situation and is that one one moment where he looks off camera. I think to the floor director as if to say please God please help me. I don't know what I'm doing. I like the way he's calling a game that's already been done right. The highlights. Yeah and he goes and let's see what happens here. He stands back for three and he made it look like he's watching live game so funny later he gets the rebound passes it to the man shoots it and boom goes the dynamite it all right. Let's take time out. We've got lots to get to today. You've got some hockey news. We want to tackle straight out of the gate and we'll get back to these works when you need insurance. You have a few options. One Google it and take a chance to spend hours negotiating rates or three texts me. I'm Peter Partner broker at all Insurance Ontario. I'll find you the best plan at the best rates. Text me at six one. Three aides are one two six five nine or visit all in dot ca all insurance Ontario Ontario. Your modern boutique broker. If you're buying or selling your home in the Ottawa area than you need the Glenn Walton Real Estate Team. We really recommend them when you lift your home with Glenn. He'll set aside a budget toward things. Your home may need to get it ready to hit the market. And after you've closed the deal if working on the buying side two thousand dollar Gift Card ride to any store in Ottawa. You choose something unique for the house trip hockey gear whatever contact Glenn today at Glen Walton Dot Com all right so boom goes the dynamite. Dare you the Buffalo sabres season. James is starting into unravel as it tends to annually Nouvelle six one to Colorado which will be the sends opponent tonight and the March the clubs for loss and five games. They're or eleven points out of the playoffs in the east. And it's mutiny. Time I know you love those Sam Reinhart of the sabre says is the players have nobody to blame but themselves according to the Buffalo News he said it's all coming down to the players at this point the systems and the game plans that has set that out for us. Give us an opportunity to have success. Guys need to demand more of themselves and a lot of guys need to step the hell up that that is never going to go over well with teammates if it was you okay I can get when teams going bad right. They've got it. They got to come up with something here right right and you're never going to hear a player go. Well tell you what it's fucking coaching okay. That's the problem hated. It doesn't have it may be. It may not be so. Generally you'll you'll you'll hear something we've got to do better we. We've gotTA SHARPEN UP. We've got to do this and that's all good if you stop there okay. Here's the pro. If I'm on that team Steven this guy goes further and says there's some guys on this team. They've got to step up so first of all that means you're not talking about you right and if I'm on the team I'm waiting in the Locker Room when that guy comes in and goes just who are you talking about. They're just when you bring that up. What players do you have in mind that you're speaking of the dumbest thing I've ever heard and it happens players do it and I don't know I just I I I see no upside? I see no upside being in the press saying that. I'm doing my job. What's wrong with you people totally well in particular story I knew where a coach here and Emerton team got in a bar fight the interviewed the coach after something? I think you probably know who it is and the coach said. Hey look don't don't look at me has nothing to do with me. And whammo blacklisted. Blacklisted and As far as I understand that story anyway you just. It's just not going to bode well right where you're calling guys in the press. You know I mean if you're leading you're trying to be a leader step one leadership one. Oh One keep that shit in house. You want to have that that conversation you truly feel that way then deal with it. in-house listen you you you you back check like a donkey right you have. How did that conversation in the context of the locker room or wherever but to go to the media with it now? Maybe already did that other thing. Maybe felt like this is his last stance you know. I'd have to try this now calling guys ever publicly. Maybe that's the only thing we're going to get in terms of improving the results. I don't know no so. I hate to speculate too far but yeah I mean just generally speaking that is a an offside play. And he's going to hear about it. I think from his teammates. I listen I just just as easy as it is to. Cyo Team played well during a game. It's just as easy to see where teams play Bat. A defenseman that didn't get back that got his ankles broken. The guy went around him or whatever right. You don't need to go into the media after and rehash it you know when you've lost five hundred six games and say some guys gotTa Step Up. I'M GONNA know if I'm a fan of Buffalo and I'm watching those games and highlight package. I know exactly WHO's talking about. It's so dysfunctional in Buffalo. Though it just they just continually struggle and it looked like you know with Jack acco coming in like. He's in his fifth year with the Buffalo Sabres at some stage. You GotTa look at Your your situation. And whether it's reinhard saying the things he said yesterday or whether you look Jack Eichel I mean from what I'm told Jack. Eichel takes a lot of oxygen in that dressing room. All Really I. I didn't know that chemistry if it goes sideways. I think we talked about this yesterday. If it goes sideways on it can take an all star team and make it a non playoff team and I would wonder if the Sabres abors are maybe in that in that mode right now and they need to do something really dramatic to shake that tree. Well you're a coach. Now are you reinhard. That's what I'm doing as the head guy. Hey you got all the moves here. You got all the suggestions. Do I mean shut your hole man. Shut your hole. We're going bad enough as if that helps. But if I'm the head coach coach I'm sitting that guy down going. You know what I'm GonNa sit you tonight. You fucking Blowhard Bobby Ryan. Speaking of guys who've been saddled sat out by their coach looks like he's going to be back in the sends lineup before long because he's now returned from the NHLPA's assistance program him where he's basically been dealing with that since mid-november and he's now officially cleared from that. I shouldn't say the word cleared. I don't know exact Louis says graduated. He's moved on. It passed it and now he's ready to rejoin the NHL. And he's officially practicing with the Ottawa Senators as step one. One James is that that is very good news before we talk about any hockey issues for Bobby Ryan. The person what has happened since then I I credit the League and I credit the team is it went no further than that meaning. meaning that there wasn't this this full exposure of what the guy's problem is which which to me always is no one's business once they say this. It's personal reasons. You gotta drop everything. Drop everything okay. This is they say that that. That doesn't happen all the time right. It's it's you know people. The rumor mill starts happening. People begin to weigh in and I hate it. I I hate it when they go. So Bobby Ryan is removed himself from the game for personal reasons. What do you think about that? Bob Are you. Should you use a different name. Steve for the effect. What do you think about that Galardo right? It's like what are you. Why are you asking that? Why wasn't it curiosity you? Yeah drop it though drop it. The Guy said personally anyway you know for example vital drug or booze problem which is known to have one of the great things about getting help. Is that someone reaches out in the support. Says this is between you and I you know this is between us. Nobody the else. Let's see we can do to help. And so I think it's a great example and that'll bode well for other players who look at their their life and go okay this this is okay I can. I can maybe begin to try and rip the band aid off with some stuff. So I'm I'm impressed. That there was no further stories about it after he left. And what we're hearing about is he's back now so the nice thing is even if the news did get out which it didn't think we're at a stage now in twenty twenty where people unless it's something in criminal or violent. I think most people are pretty understanding these days. They get addiction. They get mental health Whatever it is that the person is is dealing with people are a lot more understanding and forgiving with these things? So it's not like it was say thirty years ago where people would point fingers or you know whatever and people go into these shame spyros as a result I think people by and large are a lot more understanding than they once were. Meanwhile from a hockey the perspective I wonder about the future Bobby Ryan in Ottawa. Yes he's got time left on his contract but we're getting to a stage where you really. We do have to consider with this guy where he's at I mean he's had any he's played fourteen or fifteen games his one goal and think forces forces and you can't have that guy on your third or fourth line. He just doesn't he is not in shape or it doesn't work hard enough. He's not that kind of player. If it Bobby Ryan's going to play for you it needs to be in that top six range and he doesn't score enough. You know the rest of the seasons are right off in Ottawa. Any way there's going to be some guys shipped out of the deadline so there's probably going to be room for Bobby Ryan for the rest of this season but I would think that it'll be a pretty strong consideration when the next bio window in the NHL comes around. I think it's on June fifteenth that the sends strongly consider buying out Bobby Ryan well. Here's how I look at this thing. I oh I think can be one of the great i. I think what makes sports really really good really good. Is the Comeback Story you know I love it. I love when you often hear it. Engulf a guy win a tournament and then the backstory is what eighteen months ago that guy was working in a pro shop selling clubs and was going to give up the game. And maybe Bobby Ryan will be that you know I like that. I hope positive point of view and I I certainly hope for that as well. Be Great for the organization. Certainly personally right I got. I got supported when when fucking life was upside down and and this was an international comeback Steve by any means but I came out of it and when I look at let myself I'm like I never thought I would would be able to do what I'm doing now from Zack. Kassian and Edmonton came forward and said I'm an alcoholic. I got a boost problem right and now that guy's in playing unbelievable hockey right so I love that story story. I love the Comeback Story. And hopefully we're looking at one well said One other hockey note and that's Anthony. Mantha is in the news and he's been out for a wile now after a pretty nasty play. That looks like a suspended will play me but you go back to just before Christmas. Smith's December twenty first. We knew that Anthony Mantha had suffered a rib injury after he was judo. Thrown to the ice by leafs defensemen Jake Muhsin basically slammed onto the ice and it took six weeks to heal and turns out he had a punctured lung. We didn't we know that part of it so that is he said he never felt pain like that ever. Do you get the flu two days after he had that injury hundred and three degree fever. So you get coughing and stuff going on as well while you've got punctured lung broken rib and just a mess. So he's coming close to getting back back in the lineup comebacks. Holy Man. You know. Usually it's cracked ribs. You hear that all the time right. Get the ribs cracked in in hockey. But if your rib gets broken and it's puncturing your lung. I mean that means almost the the rib was snapped into. That gets me so bad. But I'm almost dry heaving here in my mouth while and that was a pretty thin team to start within Detroit writing this is the I mean the the red wings right now I just uniquely awful. They're record right now. Through fifty four four games they have twelve wins. Twelve wins twenty eight points in fifty four games like put it in perspective the sends who are regarded league-wide this year era as a bad team will right now. They're nineteen points ahead of the red wings and Stevens back there isn't he. I guess he needs a couple years to fix the. Oh Yeah it's a full. It's a full on rebuild. Going on there right now. That's why maybe more than any team near the bottom of the standings. They need Alexi La- frontier here. They look like a team. That is really really going for the frontier. They've now lost nine straight and their plus minus team is minus ninety six chice ace. That's horrendous minus ninety six. Oh God well when we talk about these other things they pale in comparison like there's Bobby Ryan Story Reinhard popping off in the press with Buffalo. You know they become what the first world problems if you're a hockey team and your Detroit. It's like really voice. Come on over here if you WANNA have no fun at all so it doesn't take long term team around though and the Colorado Avalanche which take on tonight They are proof positive that they were a bad team for quite a while and they are now as good as bet as anybody to win a Stanley Cup up. In my opinion they just got so much up front offensively. They're fun team to watch. So that should be an interesting one tonight We'll talk more about that in just a moment but we also want to get into our RB computing web poll. And it's on Pete. Rose Pete rose is named back in the news because he wants to apply for reinstatement once again and he feels like he's got a shot this time and in fact some of our listeners. Do too so we'll get to our web poll here in just a second after these words. When you need insurance you have a few options one? Google take a chance to spend hours negotiating rates or three texts me. I'm Jerry partner broker at all Insurance Ontario. I'll find you the best plan at the best rates. Text me at six one. Three eight zero one two six five nine or visit all in dot ca all insurance Ontario. Your your modern boutique broker. If you're buying or selling your home in the Ottawa area then you need the Glenn Walton Real Estate Team. We really recommend them. When you list your home with Glenn he'll he'll set aside a budget towards things? Your home may need to get it ready to hit the market and after you've closed the deal if you're working on the buying side it's a thousand dollar gift card to any store and auto auto you choose something you need for the house trip hockey gear. Whatever contact Lynn Today Glenn Walton Dot Com rb Computing Web bowl for today at Jimmy? Jam Should Pete Rose be reinstated. Now Pete Rose is filed for reinstatement statement to Major League baseball because of the handling of the Astros signed stealing scandal is that opened the door pete rose to be reinstated and thus be considered for the hall of fame. Does it change anything at all. Basically Pete Rose's stepping up today and saying to Major League Baseball. Hey Hey you're not banning them for life. Why am I banned for life right right so you know? Maybe the guy doesn't have a point I guess. But here's the thing with Pete rose it has been so long now and so much in the news about this every year it comes up every year at some point in the year it comes up about Pete Rose Somehow someway a you know someone breaks a record or his base stealing deal or whatever and it always comes up and everyone says the same thing. No No. You're not getting in if they put him in. Now though. Steve if you were Pete rose would you really want to be put in there now and and so he gets put in this year and and then everyone who walks through the hall of fame. Everyone's GonNa Walk to but let me tell you about. PM Rolls Okay. His He needs an open heroes. Okay so I say if I don't WanNa go in there. I think the reason it won't happen. Is that think about it for a SEC. Pete rose is asking for. Reinstatement the Major League Baseball. And he's basically saying that because of Major League Baseball's dumb decision to not ban all the Houston Houston Astros for life. The way they did. Pete rose therefore I should not be banned for life. Or you're asking Major League baseball to do. There is admit that the astro punishment I was dumb. Major League. Baseball is GONNA do that like if Pete Rose has any hope of this. Don't deal with Major League Baseball. The only way he can get this done I think a court of law. Yeah well maybe on the other hand you know the guy has a point guys appoint. I just don't think Major League Baseball is gonNA listen to it. Well there's certainly going to do it right away. That's for sure. But someone's GonNa come in you know what we've got an issue here. I will say this I think Pete rose. I'm definitely understanding why he's doing doing this. I just don't think you'll have any legs stand on with Major League Baseball. Yeah and and Pete. Rose's infraction was betting on sports betting on baseball. All and to me that leaves open a whole massive can of worms. That's that to me is worse than cheating. I think so too. cheaters are trying to win. That's right that's the that's the deal I've always had with Pete. Rose it goes. Well I bet I only bet on our team did you really. Did you really. Who knows right and it doesn't matter either? The only way that that would have any legs is if he bet on his team every single game of his managerial career. Otherwise what are you telling the betting community dirty on the days. You don't bet on your team even if you're betting on your own team to win by twenty runs I every single time it's still the optics are horrible. And you can't have it. And and every major sport has to clamp down on it and throw the book at Major League Baseball did regardless of what happened with the Houston Astros and regardless of what. The decision was in the punishment. I don't blame baseball for keeping their heels dug in So some of the feedback we got on this poll meltdown. Radio Radio Meltdowns. CKC You Charlie. Hustle is eight dollar haircut. They belong in Cooperstown set. Says it's a bad haircut Well it's not hair. Jim Set writes yes. Do you want to elaborate on that at all Jim bus driver Bruce Russillo one writes yeah. It's been long enough but do it with an asterisk just like the steroid guys put them all in be done with it. Aroma bean rights rose should be in the hall with a big asterisk beside his name for why he's banned from baseball the MLB screwed up the chance to send a message to all the cheaters. Their punishment of the Astros rose is a joke. Their championship should be voided and have asterisks everywhere. He likes the asterisks. You can't do that if you start doing that. Steve is like Jim Jerome in the hall of fame although he was four hundred home run home run shy and a bunch of wins short of it. So we'll put a little star beside him but we're GONNA put them in villains. Just put it in a house of villains at the hall and then just be like should we go in there. Oh kids away from come away from there while he probably the most popular popular place at Cooperstown if you had a hall of villains or how civilians whatever hockey lobster rights put them in the hall already snipe and Chirp if the Astros can keep their championships ships. I don't see how they cannot reinstate him and Sean Blackburn writes he needs to be in the hall. Rose is a great story in the Major League Baseball history straight. Thank you for all your feedback today. Ladies and gentlemen but will the Astros get to keep their championship. We don't know yet. Thank roses thing is have been no players who've been banned for life out of this whole thing even though they've been some really really guilty party us again. I really do you want to go in now. And everyone's going to fucking cheater. The Web Paul is presented by RB computing. Steve they've been helping Ottawa with their. It needs big or small for over twenty years right now. CHECK OUT THE NEW WACO SOFT surface pro seven the twelve inch touchscreen two and one laptop that's ultralight versatile with all day battery life visit rb Computing Dot com today or see them in bells corners at one. Oh six men play suite two three five. I don't think I have it in the else. Except for maybe a little travis. Kelsey Kelsey to take us home the Kansas City chiefs the conquering heroes. Twenty one years down Milwaukee as well how about twenty one years what that means everybody. Here's thinking in Yami legally get a drink now twenty one years. That's how that's how long it's just been turning from our guy. Andy Reid It's just been turning learning journey. Turn own way to a chain of fast. Cloudy you nothing I shall eared fourth quarter six and whatever left on the clock downtown and We Patrick mahomes eighty re baby. How about Sammy Watkins Damian me we don't Hey Travis Kelsey at the big super bowl rally today and animal now or something take quite a character? I want to go one of those things. Steve could we. Just maybe. Just have a parade Steve and pretend we won a world championship or something when I like it. The numbers on the podcast are good. We've we've cracked some substantial numbers. We can have a parade about it. Let's go get all the listeners. We'll meet down on Algan. We'll get a flatbed truck. We'll all get on the float and we'll just start to yell incoherent ship to people up and down this. I Iraq. All the things we could do if you weren't Edmonton. Yeah all sorts of stuff. You're hampering the PODCAST. It's time for you to move back to Ottawa. You got me think okay. You got me thinking. I'm all done Steve. Tonight everybody will see a good morning. Scrim shanks Uh Jimbo tron heard about Dr Weiss and his reaching the twenty five thousand vasectomy mark. Today that means vasectomies are a booming business. Jim In voltron once. and Oh look. Here's jumbotrons first patient. All right pants off sir. Good now please. He's lying down okay. You're now going to feel a slight pinch. Let's just warm this thing up a little Okay here we go Aw there you go you can leave your check it reception with with any luck. The bleeding should let up in a few days. Rose Stop your whining and be a man. Steve Reform Project.

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455: Sens Lose; Sttzle May Already Be Their Best Player; Update on Tony DeAngelo Saga

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455: Sens Lose; Sttzle May Already Be Their Best Player; Update on Tony DeAngelo Saga

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever. well hello one. Welcome to the show as we revel in sassy tales of sports in whatever we go off every single weekday this entire podcast saga anchored by myself. Steve worn along with jim. jerome ottawa. jimmy. There is in edmonton lettuce. Get busy with the hoopla james howard. Today i'm hoopla ready stevie excellent. I'm all honcker and hoopla down. Get ready. I think they're fine stevie. Yeah no as a friend of mine needs to say. I love this common. All the time he was an older friend of mine was he just passed away was well well into his nineties but it was kind of mentor of mine Deal dealing with my life over the last ten years or so great guy and retired judge. They call him judge. Jack and i see him You know once once or twice a week. I'd run into him at at some of my fellowship stuff. I'd be involved in it. I'd say a judge jack. How are you and he and look at me. Go no new damage. Truly all any of us can ask for. It reminded me of god. I was listening to our old shows. You know in the morning show when we did it. And and the stuff that we used to say and and you know that would come out of my freaking unedited mouth back. Then we've talked about this before and speaking of no new damage. And i always remember finishing the show and walking by the boss's office at five after nine we got off air and and he'd stopped me. Go look see this year. There's leading nine telephone lines. And they're all flash. And what damage did you 'cause today what happened anyway. Yeah it was always that discussion about the line right. Wendy you cross the line. One of the theories was and i think it was chris gordon who said it. He's a general manager for many years. Guy kinda broke into the. I broke into the industry around the same time as him as well so he succeeded a great deal more than i did quite clearly but anyway he would say about the line. You know when you think about ottawa morning radio. It's everything's pretty vanilla when you get down to it so if everybody on a scale of one to ten on the edgy meter is rambling along at about three. You really only need to be at a five to be the easiest show in town. So why jimmy. Do you persist at being a fifteen on the scale of one to ten anyway. We asked me how i'm doing. No new damage got it. Got no new damage. Yeah it's a little. It's a long way to take us downtown on your question about. Who's doing but thank you good of you to do that. Speaking of damage. More damage for my ottawa senators. They fell four to edmonton. Here's the game. Nutshell could not avoid the early ugly goal that forced them to start chasing the game again. Early bad deflections. And then it got worse defenseman brayden coburn put on an absolute clinic of how not to handle a one on one future. Generations of coaches will be showing that they're players. They're young defenseman do this. So it's to nothing. As a result of that and the sends pulled their goalie. Leon draisaitl scores on an empty net. It was kind of weird. I thought for the sense to pull their goalie in the first period like that. Oh wait wait. I'm being told by our fake producer. The goalie marcus. Hofburg was actually way way out of position on a bad angle goal by dry seidl. So it's three nothing and then finally yet. Another deflected puck A pocket for any other team might well have ended up in the tenth row. But no it's the sends and of course is going to go in and for nothing at that stage for edmonton. The rest is history. How about the fact that hct even gets another star despite not looking very good in the last game he allowed five goals. Murray came in Anneke loud three. But matt murray does not start for a second straight game. Think about that for a moment. He's all of seven starts into his career in ottawa. seven and he assigned a four year. Twenty five million dollar contract that is just underway. So that's what do you call not a good sign the sense of a goalie controversy. But not the kinda thinking. The controversy is they're not getting. Nhl level goaltending. Finally on a bright note james. Tim stood slow. Was a beauty tonight. Flying around making place pox. Gilda burn had a beautiful breakaway goal. And he might be the team's best player already so sends back at. Its try again and they get montreal next for two and the halves of the mirror image of the sends right now auto is one seven and one. They have a possible three of twenty points out. They have three of a possible twenty points. I should say halves. Your seven one and two and they've taken sixteen of a possible twenty points out that we're ten games into the year and the sends already already thirteen points out of the lead. Meanwhile down the american hockey league. I i've been keeping a close eye in the american hockey league schedule wondering when it would officially come out and a few days ago the schedule from february fifth this friday. There's games in the afternoon right. Through until april and may full Full medley full arsenal of games. But and they couldn't help but notice that ottawa and their minor league affiliate in belleville had zero game scheduled so that seemed odd to me that they went but finally now just aren't they. They're in the same league exactly Obviously we know that. The canadian teams aren't able to travel to the states so as the theory goes again it's play against the other teams in canada. Which is weird. Because it's not that many american hockey league teams in canada but They were gonna play in their same division and they announced yesterday that Yeah they're going to start this weekend as planned. They're going to start quote at a later date which starts to make you wonder if there's going to be a belleville senators hockey season this year. Right lavalle rocket or any of the other american hockey league teams play of the border. It's gotten to be a bit of a conundrum here in ottawa. Because so many sends fans livid at the start of their nhl club with a record of one seven and one. They want the kids to play. And there's lots of kids logan brown. Alex form anson eric. Brannstrom disguise like that down in belleville. That people think should be in the nhl. Compared to some of the well evenings of comedy they've been treated to At the nhl level So not only. Are these kids not getting to play. You know how you feeling if you wanted these kids. It's like get into this lineup. And has one seven and one and now i have nowhere to play to prove i can be in that lineup. It's a it's a pretty difficult situation. Right isn't it. Well i think you gotta expect the unexpected stevie you know what the pandemic you don't when you talk about okay we're gonna we're gonna play games down in the states but when we're going to start the league but these six or seven teams are not not gonna play But but they've come up with a good idea to have the all canadian division like the nfl and in this case you know it's going to push back the finishing date. I guess of the league. If you know i'd i'd like to win. They went when that date is gonna be you know But they haven't said so. Maybe maybe it just end up. With an american hockey league of american deems solve could be for one year. Yeah i you know it's Yeah like i say you got you gotta expect the unexpected you know look at the devils look at the season in the nhl. What this crazy schedule you know. They got the all canadian teams. I like it. I really like when i look ahead for the week which i often do on sunday or monday. And then i look at you. Know what what what are others playing one of the sends playing and you see it's like okay. You're actually gonna play four times in the next eight nights or something like that but it's played havoc with the player. Stevie good thing. There's no fans in the building steve. If you're ottawa. For example as as russ called them yesterday recorded you know the pin cushion right now of the nhl right. You know if there were if there were fans in the building steve and they were going through this exact thing. And you're a season ticket holder so this take where you're saying we'll bring some guys up from belleville i i'm kind of going to be straight if i go pay to see a bunch of freaking junior eight players in our minor leaguers with through the front door of the dressing room like it's a turnstile guys coming in coming out but that's literally what nine hundred ten ottawa. Senator fans want though not junior eight players. We're talking about the american hockey league right. Some guys some guys who paid their dues like logan brown alex farmington. They've they've spent considerable time in the american hockey league and both good prospects and those are the guys fans wanna see that. Feel like if we're gonna lose anyway. I'd rather watch the kids trying to develop right but what but what you're doing stevie what what you're saying. What the fans are saying is exactly what we said earlier on in the week or last week saying just you know you can't you can't base of bunch of decisions on your team at seven games. You know like you said. Ottawa hadn't played a game in how long before the season started. You know ten months ten months and so now they're eight games in You know they scored five against edmonton the other night. You know an eight in a wonky game when dry settlement bananas and mcdavid so they shot them like thirty one to nineteen five on five right so so for people to come now and say okay. They're losing okay. Get rid of these guys and bring new guys in and all that stuff. Well if you're if you're a level headed coach go wait a minute. You know so so now. I'm working on these kids. Yeah there's a bunch of mistakes bunch of teams are making a bunch of mistakes when they play right now. Everyone relax relax know. Let's let's let's go with them a little longer. You know so partly it's part of it is that it's just been uniquely bad. There's a lot of reasons why people are upset with the way they're going right now but you're quite right. I mean it's not just a the certain players that are you know veteran band-aid solutions It is. I do have some issues with some of the personnel. But the bigger picture issue i think is just. They're not on the same page I don't know how long they'll need to get on the same page. I'm thinking right about now is where i'd like to see it because i feel like okay. I gave them all kinds of slack. I made excuses and we talk about ten months. No games so i wasn't Particularly critical right about now is when things should start to look a little more efficient a little more organized and right now. They don't do like they're they're doing some things five on five legs say they outshot the orleans thirty one nineteen but somehow gave up eight goals at the same time so And by the way that was just for the first forty minutes of the game and So anyway there they gotta get better goaltending and they gotta get organized and bringing up kids. That's not going to change the sends fortunes unless those things get rectified right e and even watching that game the other night. Even i can see that. There's there's basic hockey basic hockey. That descends or not playing. You know like a few of those goals when you look at them you know. Everyone's everyone will scream when they look at it. If you're a fan of your you know when when you're watching them get scored on you. Look now what. What does that guy. What does that defenseman doing. Why is he there when he's supposed to be over there. You know and and you can see that three or four times during that game you know where they go go to the puck instead of covering the you know how the guy to your left. Okay on your site your defensive side maybe wanna pick him up okay where he waltz. And i've heard lots of critics of it. It's it's fixable stuff you know. There is one thing about glaring errors on a hockey team. It's it's easy to show the guys what they're doing wrong. And then you said yourself you know eventually you're going to start to look at the coach and go at how. How are getting through to these guys. They're supposed to play a two one two or a bit of a trap here. Something steve or like you said. There's there's there's one or two ways of faceoff goes either win it or lose it and might be slight. There might be a slight variance on that depending on where you are on the ice right. But it's that shit's been around for years your in your own end defending you win. You win the draw. Here's what happens hundred percent. You know you lose it. Know you're at center ice. Here's what we do. And if you're on the attacking zone on the right side a for on the left side in that circle and heroin going there just just not doing basic hockey you know. And that's that's sad. Play stuff like that is The the thing about hockey and might sometimes so hard to coach is that It's so fluid and cyclical and You know the puck is bouncing and being unpredictable but a faceoff. And what you're supposed to do is a totally set play Either win or lose and everybody should have their roles. We lost the draw. I have to get out there. I'm the guy gets out there to take away the shooting lane. And everybody's set up in such a way that guy even if he doesn't get to the puck and and stop the shot on time he's in a shot blocking lane. The sensor sending guys from non shot blocking lanes to get out there and trying to get the shooter at this. You know so the the setup is weird but even if you don't care it's a it's a it's an unusual set up Even if that's the case People aren't running the setup the way it should be a confused right now and that's coaching other. The setup is poor or the communication is poor. The execution is for that's dj. Smith's job to fix that but it's a set play not very unpredictable. All right let's take our first time out in the program when we return. We have more hockey. Talk on the way i wanna tell you about. The good folks at jim came forward. A full service commercial and fleet dealership. They supply companies in the ottawa area with work trucks of all shapes sizes and functionalities from small delivery. Vans to the big f seven fifties. So whether you're in towing landscaping deliveries jim key. Ford will help you with the right truck and body for your needs jim k. 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Marty mcsorley was jimmy's guest along with russ courtnall and He actually talked about his time. As a player that ended up with the grand rapids. Ihl team and at that time. The ottawa senators had grand rapids as their farm club. And marty mcsorley told a very interesting story about a guy who go on to be a very very good ottawa senators. I went down to about thirteen fourteen games in grand rapids after my suspension and it was ottawa farm team and i remember going and having a beer with this. Young kid was all upset because he wasn't getting a lot of ice. And i said you're gonna play in the nhl if you do a great job killing penalties. You don't have to fight all the time but mix it up. Check shut shut down the guy's playing against intimidate them a little bit. You'll get your share point. You're not gonna play thirty minutes a game but don't worry about it. I said they've got guys here. Like derek king and kip miller older players. We're going to get most of the ice time. But i said you're gonna play in the nhl and you're gonna go up a third or fourth line. Was chris neal who had a good career now. You did. But he did the same job in the. Nhl is he was doing down there. So there is the one of a kind marty. Mcsorley a guest on the suspended podcast. And he was terrific and lots of great stories like that didn't he. Jim interesting that he says the nice dot the end of your fan right. We says by the way that guy was. Chris knew that it was like a ball. Harvey story almost now. You know john. Turn to. Beanie chris neil rush of the story and just what we're talking about. We're where you need a guy like that on your team Present day right that you know. We should play that clip steve. You should send it over to the sense. They can play in the locker room. Same thing with the oilers. Yeah that'll say. I mean chris. Neal was a guy that would go through a wall. We valuable player makes guys around and play bigger filled with confidence. And that's what marty mcsorley to one of the greatest teams of all time. They weren't exactly in some cases. Like wayne gretzky yari. Curry the toughest team of all time but boy did they insulate those guys. Yeah and he and listen to what we had some very interesting stuff saying right so some some tough guy you know. They're gonna meet. Marty you know he said there was. There was big big pressure. And and i began to understand that when marty said you know if you're a fighter and you're protecting the best player in the world. There's every every night that you go into play someone. It's it's a tough gig. It's a tough gate right. 'cause they're coming out your stars and you got to be the guy to step up and i said yeah. That's true that's true. And he had some great takes on things right. That someone speared courier. Something during a game and now marty's out there and and you're thinking okay well he's gonna have to fight the tough guy you know. But but martin talks about going over to the bench and saying standing in front of the opposing. Team's benching right. And i think it was paul coffee at the time he was playing against him. What's the problem already. He said someone's beard yard. He said how big deal. That's no problem. And then he said Well it is. And it's a problem for you. Because i'm to i'm not gonna fight. You're big time i'm gonna. I'm gonna frequent crosstrek in the throat when you come on here so it was like. That's a good strategy. I get it okay. You sphere my star guy. I'm going to beat the shit out of your star guy anyway. Yeah craig ruby. Did the same thing to brian. Leetch forgetting maybe. It was rushed the told that story to like common thing like that was It sounds like that was a real enforcer tactic if you really want to get to the other team you target the stars right. Not the topic. I the rangers in the news. Because that tony deangelis stuff. Somehow somehow some way tony dangelo. The fourth best scoring defenseman in the nhl last season was waved through the entire nhl. Nobody wanted him. He makes something like four million and change and nobody wanted him. He just signed that contract in october. And the rangers have now made it clear they will eat the salary or eat some of the salary to facilitate tony de ngelo trade. The gm of the club. Jeff gordon provided clarity on why he was cut because the organization felt he wasn't able to move on from his early season benching and they warned him. One more incident would be the end of his tenure. And that came on saturday after an overtime loss. To the penguins. Dangelo thought it'd be a good idea to deliver a sarcastic. Cutting comment to his own goalie. Alexander gordyev after the game. He made some kind of crack and the goalie clocked him right so the two of them were separated and then the decision to put him on waivers was made that night so they love to trade him they would love to have seen him playing on waivers and now they still hope to trade the guy but they're probably going to have to eat some money like how badly they hate this kid. Here's what's interesting about it. You know so the fact that waved the fact that you know they thought was busy. Get way maybe we'll get a telephone call that someone says okay. Well we'll pick them up but but know we're not paying you the the big dope okay. We're gonna have to chew up some of that and we'll take them So that doesn't happen so then. The rangers come out and say okay. Well we'll we salary. Please call us. We want to get rid of this brick. You know what what's really stupid am is they. Give him the they give him the the fair ultimatum. Stevie right they give him a fair deal right which sometimes they don't with a player but they pull the guy in go. Here's the deal. You're your shit disturb with our own team. Okay you've done things you weren't supposed to do all say early. All fixable stuff you know. Don't don't don't shove ref out of the way. Big penalty pal okay. That's big problem and allowed to do that. Okay don't don't rip other players on our own team okay No problem again and if you do it again. Okay we're gonna we're gonna get rid of you. That's very clear to me by a idiom. You know don't don't do that. And what is the. It's almost like he's like i'll show you. You know because. I'm calling your bluff and you know who japs their own goalie after a game. You know who. Who does that. Who rips bully after game and this guy's been word know so he's this guy's a time bomb man. No one's going to pick them up. I don't actually listen to his podcast. He's gotta podcast. he shut it down. I guess just before. Training camp began and It's called watch your tone which when you think about it would be great advice to tony dangelo because well total is tough. Obviously tone with gorbachev wasn't real good there but You i only listened to about five minutes of it. So i i won't pretend to judge or no the guy based on five minutes of conversation but he does have a tone about him in. That just sounds really chippy and Sounds like he thinks everything is stupid. Better yeah maybe. Maybe that's part of it but anyway that's that's all i was able to glean from listening to a bit of it because it was all mostly non hockey stuff they were talking about. Nfl playoffs and such but Yeah sounds like a very confident aggressive. Young man who doesn't suffer fools gladly even though he's been playing one unfortunately for a few months now for the team well and the team when it happened right. We're talking okay. What's what's up here. Is there a backstory memorable. And of course there is and the and the team comes out today and says here's the story. Here's the story that that this guy was warned into disrupt the team again. Any went ahead and did it. When clearly weren't him so it's a good comment by the rangers. Right if you're fans or other people you know just fix this guy. He's a good player has been so he goes. You know. the guy's behavior was untenable right. So off you go. what a. what a moron you know. are you gonna. are you going to try. And get them to steve. If you're a gm of another team are you picking up the phone going. Yeah love to get that guy you know. We need that sort of thing on our team. Yeah it's about it's about the Is the expression. The is the juice worth the squeeze. I don't think i'm that interested. I don't think i Because i know the sense could use a guy like that Because the defense right now is a mass but this club has just recently gone through major turmoil in the dressing room with You know what happened with the era. Carlson mike hoffman situation whilst girlfriends getting into it Players upset with each other than was uber. Cab ride where guys get caught on video. And they're ripping the assistant coach. John video I think that that's been a real say what you want about the construction of the team. They've done extra work in making sure they're bringing in good human beings to the franchise right and so i think that While you might take a flyer on this guy like a bummer. You ask a question about whether if a rival gm. If i'm interested normally i might say yeah you get it down to a million. It'd be hard to hard to at least kick the tires there right. If you're if you're picking up the tab for the rest. I certainly in ottawa. Have lots of Cap room so i might look at it but Not with the recent history. The sense of had. I certainly am not taken a flyer on that right now it. It should humble the guy right. It should humble the guy Right to look up to wake up and go what what's going on here. Oh my god i'm not. I guess i'm not as good as i think i am right. Yeah some guys are beyond humbling. I don't think there's any question about that I wanna talk about another situation. That's happening in calgary right now. They had a players only meeting. Not real happy about their start overall and Matthew could shock is sort of at the center of this one because again. This is elliott friedman's column again. We all remember from last tuesday. If you've been watching hockey the jake muhsin incident where at the end of a leafs and flames game muhsin after the flames had just lost. Calgary's running around out there with empty net trying to tie the game and they failed and so at the end could shock and muslim kind of digging for a pocket and then the game ends muhsin turns around well cooks on his knees and gently flips the puck. Adam as if to say nice try junior. It was really no velocity in the pocket. All it was more just a you know enough where it could chuck you if he said f off and that's the end of it And they skate off the ice. That would to me seem like the natural thing to do but could chuck exploded goes after muslim tries to fight him and then after that after got broken up. He's skating off the icees knocking over the stick rack. Water bottles slamming doors. But he wasn't upset about the fights according to elliot friedman. He said It was more that he was upset that none of the other flames came in to join him in the scrum and Well i guess he conveyed that message in the meeting last friday and meanwhile got it back from some of the other players in what it can't be a riot out there every night which Well could chuck. I think would like it to be that way. So we'll see exactly if that's a an issue moving forward but certainly could shock is one of those guys that likes to be the so-called shift disturbance out there right and Guess maybe feels like the guys. Don't care enough right now. Right except fighting for another guy protecting other and speaking to marty right protecting other guys. Right is a huge thing you know. Come into a guys rescue Stepping in front of a guy saying hey you touch that guy again okay. I'm going to rip your throat out right all that stuff been around. You know particularly hockey right. It's been around a long time and when you see it. It's a really cool thing about sports. Okay so you really admire a player you know if one of your guys is getting. Beat up where you skate over there. You're gonna grab another guy and you're going to hammer him or maybe even third man in and take the big penalty but also steve. So that's impressive when guys do that. What's as impressive. Though steve is whole as as having restraint sometimes okay to show your team That that's the right thing to do right. No one's no one's checking out there. Steve no no. No one's afraid to fight a guy or mix it up with a guy. There's known as able to do that but that guy should have shown restraint and that would have been to me. You know when we got in the locker room. I think it would have been a pat on the back to the guy going. Good one because you could've you could've fought the guy you could. You could mixed this whole thing up in maters muzzle which he did and and now you've got a whole issue with the team. Now he comes off. Screaming goes you guys should have been in there too. I love to know how this meetings go when when three or four of the guys stand up. We'll we'll you shouldn't have done that. You know you you should have just pipe down. Okay laughed and walked off. Walked off the ice. The game was over. You know. And so i bet there's gonna be some of that or was probably some of that in the meeting going. You gotta keep your temper a little bit pal. I mean the limited lame hockey. I've played over the years We'd always have guys like a like a ca chuck. Who were wrecking balls. All the time and it got exhausting. A penalty's being taken and constantly you know at a ten on the On the richter scale out there every single night my message would always be like you know what the bulk and occasionally go through the china shop without destroying the place you know rights in awhile so right But matthew could jack is obviously a great young player but Maybe needs sometimes pick his spots a little better and kind of interesting to that. His brother brady got into it quite a bit with zack. Kassian last night and I guess the two brothers both have a thing about kassian. Kassian can't be a very big chuck. I of course he's had a big thing going with matthew for a long time but Yeah brady wanted a piece of 'em last night and cassie wanted to oblige. But they never really got together but an interesting Rivalry to keep an eye on. We'll take a timeout of the program back with final thoughts. After these words. My job is to get the best deal available to you with companies at my disposal. I have the markets with their expertise and home and auto insurance will make it easy for you to put me in your lineup. And i'll give you an honest effort. I'm josh president of all insurance ontario. Texter call eight six zero six zero eight and i'll give you the best value all insurance ontario. Your modern boutique broker. 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Jim came forward in orleans or jim. K four dot com. And if you're thinking of buying or selling a home in the ottawa. I recommend the glenn walton real estate team. Glenn help me sell our home back in the fall. He set aside a bunch of to help us with painting cleaning staging and even updating our ceiling lights for us. We've got multiple offers in the home sold for well over asking price. You should call glenn. Today at the glen walton real estate team glenn walton dot com. All right. we're gonna call it quits right there. Any final thoughts daydreams. If i'm if i'm now a team facing the chop okay and and you see goes ballistic. Okay when the guy just slept a little pakistan of funny. It's it's kind of like it's kind of like f f off. We meal ocean and scoreboard. We want if if you're the next team to face long boys here's what we're going to do your every time that guys on the ice. Here's a stoppage. In play flipped the puck out. Pull the tiger by the tail here. Okay with you. Don't wait till the end of the game now because this this guy be set himself up for us to for them to go a little short handed do it to like brady conducted the same thing in the end of the connects game listening to the about a minute left and There's got him. God debt for their connects bit of a shift or himself and escape. You know. He's half his sizing gable crosscheck in the neutral zone is the of them are going back to their bench. And could you kinda lost it. There and then was screaming at the bench and the conduct benches laughing back at him and could punch in a wall as he leaves down. The tunnel It just it is telling the entire league that they can They can get in your kitchen without too much trouble right all. These are talented players. And they don't need to necessarily react like their fordline enforcers right right and listen the re like back with chuck of freaking out on on on muslin. You know when when you look at it. He's the only guy who snapped and he's pissed that nobody else did well. Well let's talk to the other twenty guys right and it's gonna be twenty against one on what you did right because if it wasn't someone would have skated in there anyway. That's that's what i do. Put the puck atom. Cross the red line stevie in the warm up. You know we're not supposed to cross In the circle before the start works very very. Yep so okay anyway. I gotta ask you something. When she hit me something. Today i was brought me back. You like it or juice. Melissa you grab the balls and sweet. What no grabbed lemon squeeze the juice. Is the juice worth the squeeze. His the juicer juicy logistics juice. Now think about that. You think about that. We'll see an you.

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Eddie Olczyk Interview

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1:49:03 hr | 1 year ago

Eddie Olczyk Interview

"From Utah in partnership with tsn. Welcome to episode fifteen of the Ray and eggs hockey podcast. We've got Eddie Olczyk. And so is arguably one of the best guests that we're GonNa have ray on the podcast. This season Our inaugural season Clearly we tape this interview earlier in the day. We don't want to give too much away rate out of the gate but normally we kind of Balk. What twenty twenty. Five minute gas. Yeah I think we ended up talking heads off for the better part of forty forty five minutes just because he's a great guy but what a terrific message and story to tell What I thought. What's amazing is you'RE GONNA. You will find this interview. I'm almost certain absolutely hilarious And then incredibly poignant and For a good friend of both of ours man it was. It was really something to listen to to all our listeners. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA love Eddie Olczyk if you didn't know any before you're gonNA love Eddie now. Yeah great stuff coming up with Eddie Olczyk. We've got our throat punch candidates we've got ask Ray and dregs. We've got the usual staples here on the Ray androids hockey. Podcasts is is your microphone okay. I mean it feels like we've got technical difficulties here. Now you're in Winnipeg the time courting you didn't travel the microphone as destructed to travel with the. I forgot that it's on my desk now. You didn't have an adaptor to plug into your Mac pro but now you do have no no so. This is what this is where the real problem was. Unfortunately this was on the video that you guys were watching me. Look for after which I don't have which I don't need hokey because I thought the only way to plug in for the interview into my computer what's to have this adapter attached to my headphones. Okay yeah but I didn't need that. There's just a whole on the other side of the computer like your headphone Jack. But I'm an idiot and I didn't know it was there so it took me a while and I will say it only took me like three tries to find it and you maintain your level of temperament which was impressive You know there is a video element to this. And we're kind of dabbling with the video side of things here ray and dregs hockey podcast But our technical adviser Rob Grade. I I love how tries to coach you through things you know. He's a bit of a guru when it comes to this stuff you know what he needs to be needs to be able to invent some sort of pair of glasses which you're wearing right now as they look at you. That has all of this connected to your glasses so you remember the movie. The jerk years ago at the optic grab he became a millionaire with the and the and the dog's name wasn't tiny was something head to family show. We'll be careful with that but that's honestly because you travel as light as possible as we all do. I mean anybody who checks bag when they're going on a two three day trip you'll find yet. You're you're left for dead so you need the glasses with the microphone. Attached the adapter. That's also attach you just plug your glasses into your Mac pro and while I wouldn't forget anything like seriously. That microphone is sitting on my desk. It's not very helpful there. No An and cameras can pick up the game a little bit because she too is a great influence to the podcast. She gives us unbelievable feedback. Week by week. She's gotTa make sure that that microphone is tucked somewhere near belonging. So I say on. The list of her priorities might is about one hundred seventy third on her list. I understand that. Hey great feedback on Wayne. Gretzky interviewing episode fourteen. So what conversation backed by great guests. And we've got a surprise. You don't even know this So we've got a surprise guest for episode. Sixteen which I'm going to share with you later in the podcast before we get to the news of the day night the podcast which is the Zack Kassian suspension. I I'm going to. I'm going to just mention our sponsor list here because it's so important. Novas DOT COM for their luxury outerwear. Thank you notice. Lagaras DOT COM jewelers. Use The code Ray. Ten for your Valentine's Day purchases any dots. You can use code ray fifty four fifty dollars off your mattress. Sure Health DOT CA. Thank you can call sure health at one. Eight four four two three five sure intense. Watch DOT CA WHO PROVIDER. Great guests gifts. So thank you to tense watch tense. Watch tense watch a DOTS. Here you can check out all of their Wonderful watches on the website. So as we're planning and preparing for the podcast right Zack. Kassian gets the two game suspension handed down by the Department of Players Safety for dispensing frustration. Anger call it. What area want on Matthew Kentucky? The Calgary flames on on Sunday night. Let's start with a two game suspension. You in favor of that was warranted. it is because Milan Lucci got suspended earlier in the year when he fired The Columbus player. I forget his name. He just pitched call sure. What into the backboards for digging David? Riddick's hands it was it was deemed excessive and so I kind of thought to the two plays were similar enough that it would be it would be kind of a comparable to make. I understand why was And I understand why he did what he did. But that doesn't mean that there's not a penalty for it so when we go through this game. I mean it was cleared me. I didn't want to all the game. But I mean you all you had to do was just isolate the hits from Matthew. Chuck on Zack Kassian. And how the emotion of that game developed the end result is why Zack. Kassian got the two game suspension. After the third hitman he'd had enough he snaps and beyond two games and and by the way he's back is first game. Back is is against Calgary which is curious in and of. It's all but let's look at the three hits now. The National Hockey League says based on their estimation those three hits those three Matthew Ca Chuck. Hits Zack Kassian. All deemed illegal. The one from me and I talked to Steven. Welcome about this. The one for me look like a charge. I mean matthew chocolate a distance to two hits asking you. You've been on social media happen talking about those delays. So let's let's talk about Matthew could talks role in in all of this whether agree with the NHL that these hits were legal. Everything weren't legal. I don't agree that their legal and the reason I don't is. I don't know how many years ago was Raffi. Torres was wreaking havoc on on players around the League in one of the hits that the NHL Red Flag and said this hit can't be anymore is a forward from the top part of the defensive zone going down towards the goal line and hitting a player from below the goal. Line coming to the front of the. If anybody's seen those hits from Raffi Torres. You'd you'd know what I'm talking about if you haven't check it out. There's there's a dozen of them for some reason. After Torres got suspended. Multiple Times. Steve Downie was suspended. Ten fifteen games. I believe those hits just disappeared and really haven't seen any of them are none that I recall until this past weekend So in my opinion it's charging penalty all day. Long if the officials get it right on the ice then it takes away some of the steam of the events that picked up momentum that lead with cassie and jumping ca chuck and in and then the second part of that. Kassian should have got a five minute major for fighting right. Because he's the only guy fighting so he should get a five minute major in my mind. Those were penalties on Kazakh. And a major five minute fighting penalty on Kassian now does Matthew Ca Chuck and he addressed this. You know in talking but why he didn't fight you know. Should've he fought. Zack Kassian in the moment. All of that you know I I think. Thankfully we don't. We no longer discuss the code in relation to the national hockey because who knows what it is anymore who knows what it was in the first place. I I certainly don't it in play the game at that level but it would seem pretty clear that Matthew Chuck was targeting. Zack Kassian the bathing him. Right like just expecting counting on at some point in this hockey game. Zack Kassian is going to snap dea by Chuck's explanation after the fact where he reiterates saying. Look I'm not GonNa Fight Zack. Kassian he's not my wake loss right. I mean It wouldn't be wise to do that. And then furthermore say plus. My teammates would prefer me being on the ice which was for the power play which turned out to be the game winner for the Calgary flames. Are you okay with Matthew Could Chuck's investment and all this I am if it's consistent all the time and the problem is in a game like hockey can never be consistent remember when Matthew Dunbar ripped pack Matza last year fighting Matthew Chuck and Miss Nelson? Why was he fighting to avenge a hit? Great Matthew could truck felt the dumber had to fight. Dumbo stepped up and fought and tours pack muscle. So you can't have it both ways. I I'm not for the way the game used to be. I love the game. Ninety percent of it even ninety five percent. I love the way the game is now. The one thing that is clear is that there is no accountability anymore. You don't have to defend yourself like you used to in the past right for the most part Drake's I think that's good thing But it also gives the green light to the ability to run around if you want to. Yeah that's exactly kind of what happened. Not exactly but that's kind of what happened so matthew doesn't doesn't feel the need to have to fight and the game today doesn't demand that he does right. The problem with this is that as the League says these hits are okay so next game another player. Let's let's say it's not Matthew Chuck. It's another player. He sees somebody coming around the back of the net and he takes a fifteen foot run out them and the guy's not as big as Kassian and eagles fly into the boards and gets really hurt Then is he going to get suspended will set? The hit was fine right. And that's where I think. This thing is off the rails. That's why don't agree with the decision to say that the hits are okay because if that's not a two hundred and thirty pounds. Kassian coming around the back of the net. May The guy gets hurt and then maybe could truck get suspended? And I don't agree with that either either is okay or it isn't okay but you can see where the trouble is GonNa come here will will. Will it all be about media bluster when he comes back? Because Zack Kassian first game backs I mentioned earlier is against the Calgary. Flames Kassian may or may not be on his best behavour. I mean yelled at school for a considerable amount of time and he's probably more At the fact that you know that penalty the double minor cost his team the hockey game than he is about a two game suspension. Is this the old romantic old version of the Battle of Alberta? Or is that just forget it? We're past that and that doesn't happen in today's NHL any longer. While I wouldn't say we're totally Ostad because it's not like cassie and can go into the game and played like a five foot seven finesse. Forward Right. He's he's going to be banging around. And you always going to have some pent-up energy's GonNa be fired up. That is going to be a must watch game. I'd like to know who the referees are for that game I can guarantee it's not going to be two rookies right. The the NHL will have some some people that have been through the through. The you know the sludge before it'll be officiating backing I think we'll watch it and and the other thing is as much as we want the game to be a two thousand or twenty twenty version of the game. You know. It's a lot more clean. It's a lot more skilled. Conflict makes sports good for sure the battle of Alberta now has a black hat on each side right. The bad guy is out. You could chuck the bad guys. Zack Kassian and that will fuel a rivalry that has been pretty quiet for long periods of time and James Neal piped up as well against his former team he wasn't happy with Matthew Could Chuck stance hockey game. We're GONNA talk more about the Calgary flames and just a moment from a positive standpoint But let's talk with the Toronto Maple Leaves Again Breaking news earlier in the day. As as we're recording. The rain drags occupied guests here on on Monday. The Toronto Maple leafs losing Morgan Riley with a fractured foot for at least eight weeks. And when you look at the Blue Line that has so many question marks around a man losing a piece like that is is definitely gonNA take. It's toll. What we don't know is how significant or whether or not this you'd encourage Dubus and the Toronto Maple leaves to get their Trade deadline shopping out of the way perhaps earlier than what they hope for while. Let's take a look at their defense drake's because now with Morgan Riley and they still don't have Jake Muhsin back in the lineup. The left side of their defense is now. Rasmussen Dean. Who's terrific young prospect? A first rounder in two thousand eighteen. It was excellent at the world junior tournament. He's he's just been called up and he's GonNa play and he's GonNa play a lot. Travis Dermott is going to have to take more minutes and Martin. Meridian is the other defense. And that's the left side of your defense now. Maybe you could get by without but it's not like the right side is filled with norris trophy winners. You've got nice. And Berry and cody CECE and Justin. All who's been really great story but because that look like a defense it's going to really lock things down no chance so it's really interesting. How would be able to approach this? You know how much money you have available. How much cap space you have? Do you have to trade? They can't trade anymore draft picks. They traded a lot of them. Away de Detroit. A first to get rid of Patrick Marlowe contract. So that's gone do. Are they going to have to sacrifice? Oh roster player. Most the ones most constantly rumored or Andreas Johnson and Jerry Cabinet. And if you do. Are you able to bring back a defenseman to help your team I mean there during a little bit of a dance here between the cap and what their needs are coming off a game where they just got shelled and now you don't have your best defenseman for at least two months. It's GONNA be tough no question and we're GonNa talk more about the top six in the east including the Toronto Maple leafs and some of the stuff that they may have to consider moving forward. Ray let's let's take a closer look at the Calgary flames. I mean the understatement at this stage is that the Calgary flames are on a roll. Their goaltending has stabilized. The seemed to be getting a little bit more offense from different corners that maybe they struggled with earlier in the season. Anything about this flames team in the push that we've seen of late just past the mid point of the season that surprises you while. I think that they struggled so much early to to find any consistency. Was you know what's surprising Johnny Gujral struggles. Really were surprising to me. I mean this one hundred point guy last year and he really really hasn't given much offensively production-wise to to the flames and that that really surprised me because for for whatever good role has in its strengths and weaknesses. He is. He's a good offensive player. But he's not. He wasn't even on the Board. He wasn't even a factor. He was way on the outside of the game and and I thought that was. I don't know I. I was surprised that he started like that. Now all of a sudden these you know we start to score a little. Bit More. He's He's got a little bit of jump. I mean he's only thirteen goals right but that was a surprise to me. David Riddick played almost every game in the first half of the year. And you you mentioned the goaltending straightened out. But a lot of that's got to do with Cam. Talbot getting his game back in order and I thought he had a pretty interesting take on it so last year he's an Edmonton gets traded to Philly and basically for the last quarter of the year. He doesn't play. And so now in the summary kind of reworked as game. He went back to his goalie coach. And the kind of tweaks and things but it's taken him some time to get going. He's floral and all in his last four games. He's been really good They found a little jam to their game. Which is you know has been a question mark for them and I don't think we can probably overlook the coaching change. That was made when Bill Peters was was fired that Jeff Words. Come in and and really. They've changed a lot about the way they play. They look like a more comfortable team right now. You look around now. Western Conference It's not a bull prediction. As suggest that there could be Canadian carnage as things. Continue to develop in the second half of the regular season Specifically in the Pacific Division. Where things of of just got haywire in the race overall. I mean how do you try and handicap? This and I'm not just talking about the Pacific Division look at Winnipeg Vancouver Calgary Edmonton. They're going to have to cannibalize each other. I would say between now and the end of the regular season to lock down a playoff spot while the league wanted these Division Games To mean more they wanted the conference games to mean more While they're going to get them in certainly in in the western conference in this division so what I would say if I were. Coaching one of the teams is that. Let's not even look at the standings. We know we're in the middle of a mud pile here like everybody's in it up to their knees. And so you've got Calgary as we tape there in first place with fifty five points and Edmonton's in fifth place in the Pacific at fifty three. You know I mean you could walk around the block in your onto the playoffs. Yeah and so. I don't think it's really helpful to stress over where you sit in the playoffs but it is important to realize that. There's no time you can take nap here. You've got a three one lead with seven minutes left. You better not go into overtime and put another point in jeopardy like you gotTa Lock Down here these Games. Now you're we're coming up to fifty games on the season and a Lotta Times. Teams will separate themselves in that forty to sixty game range. You'd better not let yourself be one of those teams that gets pushed under the fight and so in this conference. I mean it's it's conceivable. That Nashville is the only team in the in the first ten in the conference under fifty points they got forty nine. They beat Winnipeg one nothing on Sunday. I wouldn't count Nashville out a wildcard spot and soul. Because I think they'll play better in the second half of the year but man. This is jumbled up as it can be the Vegas go out on the road now for eight straight games Four before the break and four after an. It's an understatement to say. That's a pretty critical time for them to well. Let's shift over to the Eastern Conference and breaking news on on Sunday night. And and I don't know if you are surprised or shocked as I was that ratio had been dismissed as General Manager of the New Jersey devils. We can get into the the background of what we believe. Went down by by simply saying this There clearly is is a disconnect in varying departments of the New Jersey devils and I know ownership in New Jersey right or wrong and then I'm not leaning towards wrong is a very pro analytical group and you know there are some believe that you know maybe racial even though I think to some degree he endorses. As all general managers do a level of usage when it comes to analytics in the National Hockey League. But it's believed there was a real strong analytical push and so for whatever reason they decide now is the best time to fire. Shero as general manager. Even though IDA source tells me Earlier this morning it's it's Monday So Monday morning that the belief is that Chiro was going to be would be in the way even though he signed a multi year contract extension last April. The decision had been made that he was out at the end of this season. So you've allowed him to trade Taylor Hall. You've allowed him to make a coaching change. And the concern was do you allow ratio to do more between now and the trade deadline? Obviously those opposed to raise zero one out and convinced ownership that now is a better time to dismiss. Ray Cheryl a highly respected NHL executive than it would be at the end of the year. Where where do you stand on all of this while if they were? GonNa make the decision. That decision doesn't happen. You know in a day or two or in a weekend So this line of thought had to be going on for some time. There's no way Ray. Shero should have been able to trade Taylor Hall if there was upheaval in the office in the management styles between the owners and the way the team was being being run. It's entirely in the owners. Prerogative to make a change but they let this go on too far because you you had a pretty significant trade asset to to deal with now by most accounts. Shiro did quite well in the draft. Picks that he brought back for hall. However if you were GONNA make the deal. This change should have been if he was going to be. Let go rather this change. Should have been done before that Taylor Hall Trade. Now they're gonNA have an interim. Gm and Tom Fitzgerald. Who Radio brought from Pittsburgh Where he was one of the assistant. General Manager Martin Brodeur who has been in the front office both in Saint Louis and now back in New Jersey. He's GonNa assist as well so now. You've got to interim managers running your team through the trade deadline as well. What was a really exciting summer for? Lots OF PEOPLE IN NEW JERSEY. I mean it was a pretty heavy analytical sided trade that brought. Pk Soubanh to New Jersey. And that's been a flaw is not played very well at all they brought Nikita goose over in a trade from New Jersey which I thought was a decent try. Maybe it'll still work out. But he never played in the League before they had the number one pick with Jackie's they signed Wayne Simmons. It seemed like there was a lot of momentum but lots of stuff went wrong. They're starting with their goaltending with Hall. In the last year of their contract this was kind of ripe to blow up at some time and I was thinking you know when John Heinz got fired I had read an article about Elaine genial. Venial saying that you know how lucky he was or has being in his coaching career yet. Andy Morgan Montreal. When he took over and he was kind of mentoring Josh Allen Tibo and Josie Theodore so as goaltending was in good shape and then he went to Vancouver. Oh Hello Roberto Luongo in the prime of his career and then he went to New York. Oh Henrik Lundqvist. He's pretty good to rate through the Brady Hall of fame years of his career. Now he's in Philadelphia he's Got Carter Heart so who. I think is going to be a fantastic. Only so much was underpinning. On a week goaltending backbone trouble was going to be had in New Jersey Cure. It is now. They're in this spot where they surprisingly fire Chiro at this point in the year. And you're looking at you. Know some of the pieces that they could move You know some of the speculation swirled around Wayne Simmons. Would there be a market for him between now on. The trade deadline is another name. Would there be a market for him. And I. I think absolutely would be as well so I mean if if if the positioning the reasoning us you don't trust the direction ratio going into the trade deadline is still gotta make moves right and you still have to utilize the resources. You have one hundred percent at Kabul. Mary will be another one. He's got left at about four point six. That would be the asset. They could get the most for. I think it's pretty easy to look around the league teams. We've mentioned tyler. Toffoli and Chris Kreider and kind of tied them loosely to Boston. Man Kyle Palmeri would look pretty good on the right side there would need. So if you're Tom Fitzgerald Marlboro door. Your assets are your asset your team near the bottom of the division again. Your future is pretty clear. It's in those very young players and so you have to build a core around them and not with guys with one year left under contract anymore. It's too again. It's a transitional time in New Jersey no questionable and just to wrap up the New Jersey side of things. I can tell you that Tom Fitzgerald and all staff. The New Jersey devils were shocked when the news came down that ratio. I've been let go as General Manager of the New Jersey Devils Let's take a look closer. Like the top six in the eastern conference and kind of dissect how things look there you know the met. You've got Washington Pittsburgh New York Islanders and the Atlantic. You've got Boston. Tampa Bay and the Toronto Maple leafs. I'm not suggesting that running away with things because it's way too early to suggest that I mean you've gotta divide think between Washington and but don't Toronto Loses Hannity on Sunday to both Florida Panthers. I mean everything that could go wrong in that game from goaltending of Freddie Anderson and Michael Hutchison to just ridiculous team defense. All of that occurred to the Toronto. Maple leafs so if we look at the Toronto Maple leaves in that big six in the east you know is that just the latest example of yes. This is a good team. This maple leafs team. Ray is a good team. But they're young. They're still inexperienced. And sometimes you have to go through these growing pains. They do for sure. They are young That was the bockel it was a Shimmy game in Florida. They were down five. Nothing after twenty two minutes. Go through both goalies. It was like a practice. They were going to on one three onto shots from the slot. No coverage in the defensive zone and yeah you can say this is young but I do also think it. It's not the experience of not being able to play it's the inexperience of losing the grind. A little bit and what I mean by that is that things were going so well for Toronto like Sheldon Keefe takes over They were They fit one point. They were like fifteen three and two underneath them now. They've now they're like. Oh two and one in the last couple of games defensively. They have to change. So there's going to be some give and take with Keefe system and what is effective with the personnel. They have and what I mean is if they want to be aggressive up in the middle of the ice their defense is going to have to be better or more mobile and to that end. I saw they called up. Rasmussen Dean who had a fantastic world junior tournament. He's been recalled Morgan Riley was on the hobble. A little bit after block the shot but the other night but maybe they just want to get a look at sandy in here to They're not out of. The Woods is being a real contender yet. But I can't see them being able to compete in the play offs given the these types nights that show up now. Maybe this was extreme. But when these night's show up it's really hard for me to imagine them locking down for a playoff series. I keep debating with leaves fans and I want to know where your with this Mike. Hutchinson comes in. He's clearly not ready. So it's a missed opportunity for a backup goaltender who had been playing pretty well and kind of pushed aside the narrative that maybe the Toronto Maple leaves due to shore up that position to to lock down a better backup. My argument would be make sure you know. Have you don't have and Hutchinson. And then use gas berry captain or Andreas Johnson or a forward asset to add another defensive piece. You know a shutdown defenceman you know based on what you've seen. Michael Hutchison is that as deepen area of concern in Toronto as some states. I think it is because Each of the last couple of years Freddie Anderson's play has has not come apart but it's deteriorated as the season has gone along. I think too many games at catches up to sixty plus games. It's too much if you can't play your backup then you're gonNA have to play sixty games because somebody's going to have to play. They're not even out of the woods yet as far as A playoff spot. Because now Florida's just one point behind them. Those points are critical for them. And if Hutchinson can't do the job for you even though we had one a couple of games in a row It's something you have to address. Is it the goaltending? Is it the defense while they're gonNA Call Up Sandy? I assume he'll get into a couple of games this week. I think they not. I think I know they're really enthused about him. He stronger than they thought he was going to be but can he helped transform a defense or is it just another smaller mobile guy gets pushed around until. Jake Muhsin comes back like. Why wouldn't you like if you're gonNA trade your asset if you're if it's Johnson or cap and in that we're talking about maybe? They have become a little redundant at their salary. Given the fact that even though McKay of is injured he's he is really sprung onto the scene. It looks like They've got a player angle. Who is much cheaper? Maybe you can use those players instead of either orients and or happening backup goalie. Could that be could that be Craig Anderson from Ottawa? Yeah right like there's there's guys out there right that up. I don't think they can go drake's into the playoffs with this tandem and expect that it's not going to take a toll on on Anderson at some point. Yeah I tend to agree with that. And and if if Craig Anderson is a fit then that's a home run for Peer Doreen and the Ottawa Senators. Eleven draft picks including two first round picks and Ottawa could go into the draft in June. With as many as fifteen draft picks. Who knows? And maybe you get you know stuck around big for Agile. Go down the list. What are you GonNa get for Craig Anderson? But you're sitting with that say they've got the eleven picks now there's a point where you can't have too many picks in the same draft here because all those guys turn out at the same time and you run into a contractual problem. What if you could fast forward into some teams that need fast forward your own rebuilt by getting into teams that have cap issues with younger players. Guys that are coming out of their entry level deal you can trade them a draft. Pick for a young player. Because you've got so many of them you can trade them a significant draft pick. I think Ottawa's in a good position here. Given the way some of young players performed at the world junior tournament some of the young players that you see already in their lineup there during the front stages of this the office staff is something else. But Yeah and you know that's going to take care of itself however it will but the on ice stuff. The product is in pretty good shape. Now they just got a hit on these draft picks. Speaking of I want you to hit on Three teams in the east. And then we'll wrap up the top five here. Tampa Bay loses a game. Ends a ridiculous streak you know. Where do you see the Tampa Bay? Lightning moving forward and then I think we have to give a little time to the Columbus Blue Jackets. And we've talked a bit about the Florida Panthers and what they've been doing of late but start with Tampa Bay and your thoughts with this stretch of wins that they put together before finally losing while a what I liked about their ten game. Winning streak was that they WANNA game nine two and then a couple of days later they won one nothing and so to be able to win. Two different ways says that your team can play the style. A game that's needed. It certainly took them a long time to get turned into the season. They had a an embarrassing crushing playoff loss. They felt they played well at the start of the year or well enough to not be so far behind the pack but it took them a long time to push all of that stuff to get their heads clean to to play a style that they felt had to be better and that is harder in front of their net harder in front of the other day. Other teams net Less penalties and their goaltending wasn't as good as it was last year battle. Axes one eight in a row. I I think they're for real. I really do. I like the way that they've played because they can score. Almost five goals a game in that streak and then they can defend with a one. Nothing win As far as Columbus since December Nineth Only Tampa has more points in the league. Their eleven two and four they have been a mash unit of injuries. It's really been incredible. How many guys have been hurt? So one of the reasons last year I think they felt okay knowing to keep abroskin knowing he was going to leave was it. They had your next Yoenis Goalpara silo who they feel is a good goal tender and had a really good start till he hurt his knee and then they signed Elvis. Moore's leak into if you haven't got a load of this character yet you gotta you gotta you gotTa Watch man. That kid is unbelievable. He's got a great personality but I think he's really good now. He's five six in four. He just had a shadowed in Vegas Elvis with a Shutout Vegas which is pretty cool. I talk more about Elvis coming. Yeah he doesn't dance. He's got like no players yet towards has got the rolling along here. They're back to play in a really hard brand and they're right on the cusp of the second wildcard and that gets us to Florida. If they're ten million dollars a year goalie can can get themselves straightened away. I think they're going to be a factor man the score they can skate but they signed the guy and paid them ten million bucks to erase a lot of their defensive deficiencies and he's not even been close to the level. He can play out all right. We've got Eddie. Oh Eddie olczyk coming up next on the ranger eggs hockey podcast in a little bit later throat bunch and ask Ray android all right. We're now joined on the ranger eggs hockey. Podcast by Ed's Oh Eddie. Oh Eddie Olczyk who has got a wonderful book If you haven't had the opportunity to run out and buy it or better yet read it. You've got to do it. It's called beating the odds in hockey and in life wonderfully authored by Eddie and Our good friend Perry luck. Oh so congratulations forgetting that. I'll we'll talk more about the book coming up in just a moment Ed Eddy. Oh but you and ray of so much history together right. I mean not just dating back to playing together back in the La days but it will be it in the broadcast circuit. Whatever in as there ever been a time where the two of you just weren't at one another or you know. Maybe Lafayette yourselves in the process. Because even as we're about to record all I get from you is we lineup is I mean not just your go to guy when it comes to conversing with with our good Paul Raith Ferraro. Well thanks a lot man. Happy New Year Always get to be with you You know what Drake's I mean whether I saw Razor for the first time in the day or I would see him thirty seconds later. I I would. Just that's that's our relationship right. It's it's it's something that I want to say that I can't come that I can't Explained but it's just who we are Full of life. And I think that anytime I've been in a room with razor I'm always smiling. And that's a sign of a true friend and somebody that I respect As much as anybody that I've come across in my life let alone in a game a hockey so when you have somebody in your life that you respect and you love and you WanNa be around and That you know that that means the most so for me It you know like I said whether whether it's across the Room Rover two feet from me having dinner making fun of me. 'cause I'm a chocolate Guy You know we We've had that relationship so It's it's it's always GONNA be that way. It's never changing and You know we could be a church or we could be in the locker room. It's going to be quiet. Relationship is at so we're not there weren't many quiet played rides on those days back in. La Ray was there. I mean. Of course I love to fly. So you know Drake's we'd be taken off on an airplane and we hit a few look at every flight that I mean they must know that Eddie Olczyk is on the flight because we purposely fly in the air just to scare me. Okay I just telling you we turbulence and all of a sudden I hear. Oh it's a razor razor in in our good pal there. Arthur Louise Kevin Steven seagal. This isn't good. You better kiss your ass by. This is not good here is you know. What could you just shot up? Just just shut up. Leave me alone. I'll I'll have the I'll have the death grip on the seat in front of me. Let me sweat. Let me think about what I'm going to do. And they're all of a sudden the pilot again guys But Guy let's say we should just five plane. I know how to stop driving me crazy. Just just fly the plane and then and then Rachel and so. This is not good here. I don't know the card game. We gotTa Stop The card game now. One thing you're leaving out Eddie was when you'd sit down no matter where Eddie was on the plane. Sit Down in this seat. Whatever it was and he'd strapped onto seatbelt super tight and and Kevin would from wherever he was. Oh yeah that's going to do a lot of good at so when this thing goes down five you know what we we had a trip. I'll never forget this and actually tell the story in the book and it's one of my favorite stories and history so we're flying from Dallas to Alabama. La That's like in January and that's you know that's when they have the Santa Ana winds when they're like a thousand miles an hour and we're we're flying back and you know we just got our heads handed to us in Dallas flying back from a Dallas La and we're like you know maybe a half hour into the flight the pilot gets on and goes guys Just want to let you know Lax has been closed all day because of the winds but You know we're going to get over there and we're going to see if we can land if not We're GONNA have to land in Vegas for the night if we can't land we're GONNA win on this deal we're going to the land in Vegas. We can't go home so sure enough. He gets out on the back on the Intercom and he goes guys. Just want to let you. Lax is still close brought. We're going to give it a try what we're giving give it a try seriously. There's a thousand mile an hour wind gusts and we're GONNA give it a try with the La Kings on on MGM Air. And we're going to give it a try so all of a sudden. Now forget it you might as well just might as well just jumped in a bucket of water because now I just start sweating like you know what I got every fan on in the row. I'm sitting there trying to and all of a sudden all of it now. We lost maybe a few games in a row. Salmon master was arch attleboro manager. So now we're going to try to land in. La Excellent no other playing in history of landed that day. So I think it was Dougie's Molik yell from the back of the plane he else up at the. Gm pitcher that's everybody's sitting on a plane and the GM's in the front of the plane Dougie's more like yells. Hey Sam sign the pilot. He's got more balls than half on his way. Actually I actually started laughing for about thirty seconds and I'm like Oh man. This is not good. Like we're GonNa try to do something. No plane is all day at LAX. But you know what we're going to work. He says we're going to give it a try. No no no no. Don't say going to give it a try. We hear landing or not so good thing. I had brown pants on that trip. Oh Gosh those were the days razor somebody now. We're in a great team but we we had some characters through there right. It's like the air before you got there. Kevin Air there and we've got these young guys. They've called up from the American League Team. Which late in the year. We're on the power play. And he's got. The coach has got these four guys that had just been called up and Kevin sitting there on the power play. We're sitting on the bench and Kevin's like four guys away from me. And he yells down meet so of course you know our voices so loud. He's like raise it. You get a load of this power play. I said Yeah I see he goes no. You can't have loaded these characters on the power play mad we were and you show up and now we've got now we've got another avenue for this so we get this. Guy Kai Nurminen who they sign from. Finland Kai was a super nice guy but intensity the NHL was not for him and you came up with a pretty good nickname for him because he had a thigh injury. Yeah so so drake. Here's here's what happened so we're playing there on and off with you know playing with different guys on the team. Larry Robinson coach Rick Green Jaybird right H J league. Jay Leach was our coach. You know. And so Elliott good bunch of guys. Blakey was there mentioned Doug Easy I mean you know Byron before you know it. Great guys great guys. We had some you know some some new guys and just learning the NHL so so kind and was You know he was like A. He was like Miroslav furniture back in the day with the Toronto. Maple leafs one of my former teammates with the league is that he was like you know he's like that type of player so so we're playing. We're playing a game and it's the three of us so I bought back from center to wing and it's me Ray in in by so we go out there and you know we're going up the ice or whatever and you know razors got the puck and I go to the net and then you know Kai drops in behind ray and you know whatever nothing happened. We dumped it in the corner and then we changed. We came back. So we're sitting on the bench in Chi- is sitting in between me and ray and I could hear Kyko real. Yeah what do you want Did you not see me? What are you talking about Rosa? I was three meters behind. You three meters three. How how far is three meters? I have no clue is at seven hundred feet. Is that thirty feet. So that's what we were dealer with. Dregs we had a guy. It was three meters. I do like is that close as far I I have no clue so we pray the rest of the game and we come back and all of a sudden kyw disappears like he's come up lame like he's not playing he's not skating so you know we find out that you know. We got a Charley Horse. So we don't feel for a couple of days he comes in and go tell you what's the matter? Oh my you know my leg. My Si- hurts so I'm Blake Drake's he opened the door says my Si- her and I'm like well you have just become Feinerman. You not tied Nermin anymore. You're by so from then on. That's or until I got traded at the deadline which is about four months later. He would walk in the room I go. Hey fine how are you doing? He goes no no. It's so it's my name. Is Chi Chi? Go Cy are you. Yes yes my hurts I go. You are now fighting Herman so urban. And now looking. It's I mean about it like it is like probably immature. But look at your talk to your listening soon right pal. That made us laugh more than anything. I think that whole year right right. How many years ago? That's twenty three twenty four years later we still laugh about five at any time. A guy gets a Charlie or in the league or something happens There isn't a text that doesn't fly by a razor. What what what do you think is doing right now in? Ray knows exactly what we're doing exactly what we're talking about. Yeah I know immature Drake's but you know what that's not. I'm not going to argue that point. I'm not gonNA argue that at all and so you bring up a texting and dregs and I were discussing this. Nobody tax like you do like where did develop. I appreciate them. Because when you get a text from Eddie at usually about ten text bars long and included in it is twelve words. Yeah because he writes two words sans it then types to more. I don't know if you your thoughts would appear in there. The apple two letter abbreviation. It takes work through this. Where did you come up with this? Do you know who I mean. Do you know who's texting you. That do you ever forget my need to read it. You're right there. You go there you go. That that is less is more all right. I was told that somewhere along the light of my life lessons more looking. I know I'm not a text I sent. Zeros is is circles or circles zero. My Kids Bust my chops. I look at You know I don't I don't if I'm paying for your your cell service than don't bust my chops on like I could easily cut off the seven hundred seven hundred phones that we have in our family. It seems like so. I don't know what I learnt. I just you know I I answer. I respond right. I'm a good responder but maybe not a good You know maybe it's not good for Maybe not good for the heart. I guess about net. That'd be one of my resolution that I will try to become a veteran texter. There you go like. Do you have a favorite team? I mean aside for maybe ninety four of course with the New York Rangers were part of the Stanley Cup. Winning team you played in Toronto. You played your own town Chicago. The New York Rangers. They go down the list. Is there aside from the Rangers? Let's just put them aside because of the Stanley. They're a time in your career at team. Mississippi that you still embrace I mean I think when you put it all in and I know I know ray and I have had this schedule. this discussion drake's over the years. But you know when you're a player late if if if your family is happy and content if you're playing in your competitive And then you enjoy the people. You're working around in with the trainers first and foremost and it doesn't matter like for me. You know taking my hometown out of it. Just because you know it's home and my family's been here in the five years that I spent with the blackhawks but I mean those are the days that I spent in Winnipeg I mean I you know Drake's knots where we I you know our pass. I cross back in the day but you know I did. I think there was just something there because it was a it was a small town. Came in a in a big city league and You know everywhere you went. People wanted to you know talk and and let you know they support it In you know the Camaraderie. We had on the team. It was a close knit team. Both on and off the ice and I mean it's there I mean I was almost five and a half years so you know I had a pretty good taste of what playing in the peg is is it was about so You know any specific year. No I probably can't say that but I look at my totality in time in Winnipeg and go you know. Gosh I still have relationships there and and people that I've you know that have leaned on you know not only when I was battling my you know my my cancer battle but you know just you don't I mean life's life's rough I mean life's a battlefield and you stay in contact with the people you do and the relationships that you have but you know just that time in Winnipeg was You know I just I really you know I really really enjoyed it. Look I mean my time with Ray and with Arthur Louise and Blakey and in Odi Sean O'Donnell Make like that Cup of coffee that I had an LA. Like I look back at it I mean looking at I mean ray room with look at that year ninety six it. Was You know ninety six ninety seven season? I mean there were rumors about Reagan and traded in Artie and Kevin Stevens getting traded. My name is not popped up at all and next thing you know I'm getting I'm getting traded to the penguins and I was only there for that cup of coffee. I mean that team that we had I mean we had. We had a boatload of fun and and We pushed each other and there are a few arguments on the bench. You arguments on the boss. A few arguments and the car ride home We had players go missing time semi we. We pretty much had everything. Go on and I love that team. Even though I was only there short period of time and The Ninety six ninety seven season Eddie. You know one of the teams that Drake's glossed over a little bit was in New York when you guys won the Stanley Cup. And I've always been so impressed is really not the wrong word. But I admire the way that you're you've got a big personality and even in New York when when you weren't plan as much as you probably should have been how did you. Where did you get that that part of your personality that you're always upbeat? You always charge or were like you were so popular with the guys and anybody. When I went there a couple years later they talked about all the some of the Shenanigans with with Mike Keenan and how you were always the guy that helped charge the team forward a little bit like where did that come from. Yeah who I appreciate that Ray I I would. I would like to think that I learned that as a as a young kid growing up. with You know with my family my mom and dad and then warning that over my my my hockey longevity and then playing you know having played nine or ten years you know actually eight plus years in the NHL and then getting to New York. And then I say this in the book I you know my career pretty much came to a halt when I got traded to the rangers and it it was hard It tested my love and my My Passion for the game But I always felt that you know world player regardless how bigger role is is that you've got two things you do things you gotta do. You gotTA accept an execute and everybody wants to be on the power play. Everybody wants to be out there at the end of the game But we know that that's not possible and and I do in my role was and yeah it was hard. I mean it it it it was. It was awful times but I was never gonNa let anybody see that I was down. I never was going to let the guy sitting next to me or across from me. Let them you know. Take drag them down with me and You know I always wondered what it would have been like if I wouldn't mind. Sorry if I would've went into general managers Neil Smith. Office just said you know what I'm not playing this is about playing and I gotta get Outta here. I never thought about that. I mean it never crossed my mind. It was just like look. I believe. I'm going to get a chance to win. I going to do what I do I'm GONNA prove that I can play and help. And you know the opportunity didn't happen but you know I think just you know. I've I think learning it over the years ray really. I mean 'cause I knew we had a great team and you know I would never stover this day. I would not trade in that experience experience of of doing what we did in New York and ninety four. I'm bringing a cup to their to the city of New York and Ranger fans for the first time fifty four years so it was It was hard it was. It was probably harder being away from the rank than it was being at the rink. Because I was with the guys and the trainers and you know you could go out there and really blow some steam and know. Even if you weren't playing you know you could do things that just. Kinda let things out but you know when I was at home. You do a lot more thinking or if you're in your you know you're going through a game day and you're not playing you just thanking you wander and you start doubting yourself and you know all those things cross your mind so But I I think I just learned it as a young kid and I learned it when I played in the League for eight or nine years until I got to New York so I think what I proved to myself is how much I love the game And knew how important You know the best players on the team but also the guys that are there to to You don't push you to keep the guys loose Make them laugh and stretch the Tiv every once in a while which ended up being my role in that team and in ninety four with with the Rangers. Look at my role was installed even before. The season started Mike in and our coach came into get into the locker room and in our practice facility at In Rye New York play land in in In Our facility there and you came in and he had this great video showing all the championships in New York. And you know all the different sports and video of you know when the Rangers won back in nineteen forty and you know great just great music and you know it's just upbeat right like okay. This is the start of the year. Whatever and he goes around the room we got twenty six twenty seven guys because back then there was no cap and you could carry a hundred guys if you want. It's a Lotta guys in a room. So he starts off as meeting and he goes around he looks at Mount Mark Messy and he goes. You know you're going to be you know you're going to score the goal in game seven to win the Stanley Cup for us for the first time in nineteen forty and you're going to be the first ranger to touch the Stanley Cup Brian. Leetch you're going to be the best defenseman Adam Graves. You're going to score fifty goals issue. Joey Kosher if anybody touches Mark Messier GonNa kick his ass and then he goes in Eddie olczyk PAS PAS baas pause Baas Baas you might not play all year long but you're gonNA have a role on this team and I'm like she's like okay here. We go You know I did matter if I was going to be there and and that was my role and I knew right from that meeting like I knew right from that meeting and of course good friend Glenn Ely of course comes up to me goes on. You'RE GONNA you're GonNa with me a lot this year I co- You're unbelieveable heels. But you know like that's that was the hand that was dealt and have my name on the Stanley Cup. I'm so proud of it. Look at I had very little to do Obviously on the ice for what we accomplished. But I will say that as I I. I am very proud of the impact that I had off the ice to be one of the leaders on that team with the leaders that we had up and down that lineup And also to to to be voted players player by my teammates. is Is is the players player year. We won the Stanley Cup for a guy. Then I guess that had very little impact on the ice certainly met a lot and that's the greatest You know that's the greatest award that I got individually in. My career was to to get that award on a on a team that had obviously some incredible leaders but to be recognized by my teammates You know obviously I handled it the right way and very proud to been arranger and when that Cup in ninety four. We're going to transition a little bit here to talk about your your fantastic book beating the odds in hockey and in life and I was telling Darren Before we got on I remember exactly where it was. It was a Sunday morning. I was in Seattle Cami and I in the boys were down for a little weekend getaway and and I had gone down to lobby to get a coffee and there's phone call from you and so I'm I'm happy. It's Ed Zone. 'cause you're not a foreign guy you're attacks sky and so really excited. I'm like oh I wonder what's up so I'm like. Hey how you doing in you said. I tell you honestly I've never really been knocked off my feet by phone. Call like this before and it was when you told me that you were sick and I I mean right to the core and I can't help but wonder as you were making those calls to people like what was going through your head like like I was scared just to hear it. I can't even imagine where you were and and I guess I wonder like how. How did you just get started on the road? Eddie to try to get healthy. Yeah well there's a lot there ray. And obviously it's very emotional Sensitive you know time in my life and it always be with me. I mean cancer will always be a part of your life but I think I initially Ranger is that you know when when you are told that you're sick and obviously for me look at. I woke up one day and I couldn't go to the bathroom like I couldn't go number two and that was a normal for me and then when it goes two days then. I'm like Oggi's there's something wrong right and the next thing you know. I'm having a six hour surgery in the removing fourteen inches of my colon. And they're taking out a tumor the size of my of my fist. You know and then they're calling me on August fourth at seven seven. Pm On a Friday night. That you have stage three colon cancer recommending chemotherapy for the next six months. And you know and they will reassess from there. I mean the first thing I thought of was okay. Well you know how long do I have? You know like really like you know. Am I going to die But making those phone calls ray which I made the most important people in my life immediately. you feel like you've let people down you've you've worried them you You know stop people in their tracks. That that's what I felt when I would make those calls to notify people that that needed to be notified because they've had such important impact on my life is to hear it from me and to say look like I'm sick. This is what they're telling me and I'M GONNA fight and I'm going to battle hard as they can But like that's what I that's what I felt It's it's emotional. I remember talking to you. And it's it's hard even to this day to remember. Think about that conversation. Because you're letting somebody in your life that means a lot to your. You know you're telling them that you're sick and now you're affecting them right like that's just the domino effect and I've had this conversation sadly with thousands of cancer patients and a lot of us. Feel the same way as where you feel weak. You feel less. You feel like you become a burden not only on your family but your friends and your job and the people that love you and you know and it's it's not you know you're sick but you don't you know people didn't feel like I was letting them down or you know purposely worrying them. It's just that's how you feel and I think just being honest ray like I was with you and you know dregs contacting you after and it's just one of those things where you just say. Okay look I'm you know I almost felt better. Because here's what happened guys. Is that what I was what I was sick and I could go to the bathroom in between that time and then me going publicly about my stage. Three colon cancer battle. I had horse racing periods of parents that I had to cancel. There was a charity hockey game. That I put my my my my two oldest boys Eddie and Tommy were playing in and I was gonNA play in I you know I was in no shape to to be out in public let alone go play hockey game. So I had to cancel their cancelled an autograph appearance. I you know there are a lot of people that were not only say upset with me but I gave them my word that I would. You know. Be there and then now. I'm canceling so my kids and my family had you know. Had to make excuses for me and then I was like look. Initially I WANNA just go hide under a rock and not tell anybody but you know when you're in the so called public. I like we are in our little world. It's hard to just go. No go dark you know to go away and I actually felt better. Believe it or not dregs and razor. I almost felt better when the when it became public And just say look. I'm sick I'm GONNA do everything I can fight through this battle and go from there. So you know the strain that I put on my friends my family my wife. Diana of you know almost thirty two years. You know being there every day Being the caretaker and caregiver of seeing me go through my forty. Eight hours of Chemo every other week for six months and look I talk about it in the book but I my second treatment is where I was going one way and my white grabbed me and got me back on the straight narrow because the razor you know me better than anybody drags. We know each other very well. I've never quitted anything in my life like we're all wired a certain way and for me whether I was down in a game. Coaching a game. I'm at the race track down. I'm not giving up until it's over and look. I went through my second treatment of chemotherapy. I was in it and I was at home and my side effects brought me to my knees like cancer test. You will to live The chemotherapy really does change you. It it it battles you and my side effects were look at full disclosure At nosebleeds had terrible headaches neuropathy in my fingers and my in my in my feet I would thumb it and I would just go to the bathroom without being able to control it like I would just look at. I would just shit the floor. I had no control over that and I told my wife I'm done I quit I. I'm done I see. How am I gonNA get through treatment to which is September fifteenth of two thousand seventeen? How am I gonNA get through today? Let alone get through February twenty. First when they were going to unhook me for the last time. Hopefully and I was going to put this in a rear view mirror and I look at. I had a port and my chest. Were I had a fanny pack that I would wear for. Forty eight hours in the chemotherapy would go through. This wire hooked up to my chest and it would go off every ninety seconds in that sound could still hear it today. It's just a and I have this medicine shooting in to me and I'm just like I can't. I can't live like this and my wife grabbed me. And this is where the so-called tsn turning point. If I could use that Happened for Eddie Olczyk in my cancer battle and my wife grabbed me and she looked at me and she says you're not quitting. You GotTA fight for me. You gotTA FIGHT FOR OUR KIDS. You gotTA fight for all the people that love you and I needed that guys like. I needed that because I was on the verge of bailing. Because I was hurting I would look at it. I'm still scared but I was hurting and I was scared and the caretakers and caregivers out there we have to make sure we're looking out for them as well like my. I never saw my wife down and never saw her week. I never saw her worried around me but I sure to hell no is that. When she wasn't around me she would let her guard down in in in. Be Worried so we need to make sure now checking on the people that are sick but also we need to look after the caretakers and caregivers. Because they're going after a they're going through a lot mentally so we need to make sure we're taking care of them and that's something my wife and I have put our our hearts into to making sure that we are all taking care of the caretakers and caregivers but that for me got me back on my feet. Look it we cried. I cried for about an hour after that. Trust me I mean I hugged my wife and I you know I just was like okay. I'm GONNA okay now I. I'm going to get back on track. Your I'm just GonNa go one day at a time not gonNA worry about the next treatment. I'm not going to worry about February twenty first or you know if I don't feel good then okay. I don't feel good but you know so for me that was that was the turning point In my battle and I know there are a lot of people out there that are listening or no people that have gone through it and can really relate and The taxed the calls both of you guys at the forefront of that Um in reaching out to let you know to let me know that you guys were thinking about me here just to talk It helps a lot of people. Don't know they feel like you're bothering them or they feel like you're don't know what to say but just being yourself and getting into your relationship with that person goes a long way so you know. I know there's a lot there but for me That second treatment is where I needed to get straightened out and Diana check Grabbed me by the short hairs and pretty much set me straight and I put back my hockey helmet on and got back that mentality that we all have in his great game and that helped me get through because It certainly tested me and tested. you know my my will to live and proud to say that. I'm going on two years cancer free and got a big scam coming up in March and The farther away from February twenty first of twenty nineteen Better you know the the better that I feel so Very I'm sorry eighteen. Sorry Twenty Eighteen You know the better and more confident that I feel so very lucky. Very blessed with all the help that had the support And the team of doctors that I had a very very lucky for for all the prayers as well. I can't even imagine any the changes that you under go through that whole battle and the time line that you were laying out for us. What's different about Eddie Olczyk? Today than three years ago or Ray. Hook it in our relationship. There's there's there's no bull it's like you know. Tell me what I need to know. Not What I wanNA hear right like th that's that's us that's that's that's and it's like that's what it is honestly ray. I think what helped me get through? I was very much it piece when I was going through my battle because the most important people in my life have always known how important they are to me and how much I love them and I always tell my wife and I would tell my kids you know. Look at God forbid if something would happen to me you know you need to tell me that you know how much I love you and how much better my life has been with you in it you want and they all would say the same thing. I'll stop it stop talking. Nothing's going to happen. Stop but all day today. The big picture. Right like drags you know when you got when you got GM's and coaches calling and texting and telling you you know yeah this guy's day to day or the coaches made it while you know and the big picture we all day today really like all day right so for me Ray. That my my feelings me being at peace with the most important people in my life knew how I felt about them. That helped me get through like I've always told those people my my feelings and that helped me get through the toughest time of my life because look at if they told me. That's all you've had fifty one and a half years you've done all of this. You've had some great friends. You've had incredible family. You've done everything that you could imagine. But it's time I was okay with it. I was at peace because there was no stone unturned. There was no person out there. That hidden made an impact on me and my life and the most important thing in my life didn't know how I felt about them and that really helped me get through and what I like to say. Is that if you read the book and no Ray? There are any crayons with this book. Just for the record. I know you were dying. Krantz this book. Berry impressed agent but but I tell people I hope you do two things one is. I hope you laugh a little into is. I hope you'll love a little bit more and that helped me get through like it really did so ray. You know what I in when I reflected. I am more proud now of what I've been able to accomplish in my life personally. Most importantly my family my four kids and my wife my friends at my hockey career like like before I got sick. You Know I. I was very proud of what I've accomplished I was. I was proud but I think when I was sick. And and when you're sick like that you have enough quiet time. The last you a lifetime so I had a lot of time to reflect. I spent seventeen hours a day in our basement. I that's where I live for six months and I look back at my career and I feel more proud now in look back at what I accomplished in my hockey life as well as my personal and go you know what you know. What yeah you know. You were a pretty good player. You accomplished a lot and I don't think I ever looked at that it it. I looked at it that way before. I got sick so really if anything ray I think it reassured me I was in a great place personally professionally but then I had a time to reflect and I said you know what regardless of what some people may say. And that's what makes the world go round. I I did pretty good but I really don't I really don't I know it's long winded but I. There was important to talk about those two specific areas. Honestly Ray I don't I don't look. I don't look at things any differently. I really don't appreciate anything more so I think what it did with me. Being sick is it just reassured me that I was in a really good place before and now I know I'm in a really good place after and that's really. The heart of the book is that if I can have one person get through the day her help them get through their battle or to keep them away from having to go through what I did. Look it just doesn't have to be cancer. It could be anything I mean. Life is a battle. Look at it I was. I was bullied as a as a young kid. And as a hockey player I mean I had. It was in the hockey news. I mean it was an hockey news. Where a former coach of mine said you know? Jeeze Eddie Olczyk. Oh you know he'll he'll have a good. Nhl Career if he doesn't eat his way out of the NHL well. What's wrong with the hungry hockey player I ask and to? I'm chocolate guy right race. You know what's what's what's wrong with that but like look at if I would say that on. Tv DOWN HERE. In the states on NBC. Where if there was a player out there and I would critique him in and talk about his you know his weight or or you know I mean they would be taken look. It's different world today. I understand that but to think about that like that. It did bother me. You know but look I ended up playing sixteen years in a league and you know I mean look the rest is history but so a lot of that is in the book and and I think it's all ages. I really do. I think he could be relatable to to anybody. That obviously loves our game or is in a battle and I'm I'm very proud of that. And in Perry left. Go who drags you mentioned a little bit earlier. I mean he did a wonderful job a guy that I know extremely well from my days in Toronto and obviously he's a award winning horse racing writer as well so certainly that played into it. But I'm hoping that I'm hoping that people when they pick it up and read it They'll they'll laugh a little and the love a little bit more and if I could make an impact that way then it was well worth the sixteen months pen to paper of doing the book. Well no question. You've made an impact heads and we'll continue to do so. He is Eddie Olczyk. The book is beating the odds in hockey and in life. We've kept you long enough. Thank you for your honesty your courage Edsall and through it all an incredible sense of humor. What we love you guys Drake's and I look forward to I look forward to seeing you guys on the road. You guys do an amazing job. You're not only great friends of mine and people that I respect but you guys do an amazing job for our great game and there are so many there are so many great people in our game But we need more people in our game just like you guys so I appreciate you guys having me on your podcast and and what I read the when I read the promotion in the advertisement for the Ray Drake's or the dregs and ray podcast. It says you guys like to have a wee bit of fun we have A. We bit of fun today. That's what I wanted with that right. That's what I WANNA know Ed. So you accomplish that you you get a chocolate dessert for this today. Oh that's a shot. Now that is a way to end a segment so and love you guys. Happy New Year. And I'll see you guys down the road you bet any. Thanks a lot love. You Buddy got sick love you. We've had many guests on the rain. Dregs hockey podcast end with fifty two of these things this year. Clearly there are going to be many more. I can't imagine anyone is going to top our good friend. Eddie oh I mean just the sincerity honesty the brutal reality of Of his overall experience but the fact that the bottom line is he he continues to try and help people right that that's his take way not speaks to the soul in the heart of tremendous human being. I just I thought it was an amazing time. We got to spend with Eddie I didn't get to tell them. One of my favorite moments playing in Los Angeles was Diana was going to have a baby and Eddie's wife and so he was gone all day and we were we knew he wasn't GonNa be there while somewhat miraculously they. They had their baby late in the afternoon. Eddie jumped in the car got to the arena. The old form in Los Angeles like just before warm up. We won one. Nothing in Eddie scored. I don't recall being happier for somebody than his the way. He raised his arms. It was just. It was just meant to be and Man He is a he is a great friend. He is a great great person and Can't thank them enough for coming on and sharing with us and we all wish him all the best all the time and look. It didn't seem to fit but I mean again. He's one of those guests we talk. We could talk for hours and the stories would be analysts. And we didn't get the opportunity to play the Winnipeg sound bite. Of course which is near and dear to both of our hearts and that was in ninety six when tough time the jets leaving going Arizona and adds Oh gave that now infamous speech in front of a packed arena. Winnipeg arena where he did the wherever. This team ends up and went over. This team wins the Stanley Cup. It's got to win a big. I mean you and I both get a great kickoff and I don't know if it annoys him that he he did it and it stuck with them for all these years or the fact that you and I enjoy it so much fun when we good ones He. I'll tell just one quick thing I somebody sent me a sound board of that so it was a picture of Eddie and a recording. That you just press the button and that speech would come out so. I had it in my office till it finally broke it some days. I'd be in there doing some work and I'd look up and see the picture of Ed's Oh and his jets uniform and I just press the button and go wherever this demand and if it wins the Stanley Cup play. It's knocked pay myself. I just loved it. He's one of a kind no question about that. So thank you and thank you to our friends. Ray at Novus. We're thrilled that. The apartment this year with the rain drags hockey podcast. Probably not as thrilled as you are. Given the fact that all of us are warm and toasty. You don't WanNa eat it. Hasn't it hasn't been called enough in Toronto yet? Although we went through a bit of a snap your last couple of days where I can bring out my novas jacket because it is so thick and toasty. I needed to be like minus ten minus fifteen degrees Celsius. Otherwise I'm GonNa Roast in that thing. That's how warm it is while. 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Novas DOT COM CA All right an absolute tappan for me this week ray when it comes to my throat punch candidate. I'm sure that you're paying attention to the news here in Canada. I don't think you got the Ontario emergency operations alert because you you live in. Bc's so why would you? Why would I get that alert? I know I was just trying to be smart. Didn't come offer here right. It's a wet but what out to me off and so seven thirty eastern Sunday morning just waking up just kind of gathering. My Faculties. Tiny is stretching and yawning. She needs to use the facilities so just just contemplating all of a sudden. And we've all got the amber alerts right where your phone just explodes and and I'm always surprised in a little bit annoyed by people complain about this on social media because you know what if I get woken up at three thirty in the morning. Whatever date is because there's a child missing or something has gone on? I'm okay with that right. We we need to do what's right. We need to find this missing child. I get it so on. -TARIO Emergency Operation Center puts out an alert. The phone blows up saying that there has been An accident at the Pickering Ontario nuclear facility. It's about twenty five kilometers away from my house. Now it says that it. It really was directed residents within ten. Kalac layers of the pecker. Nuclear facility are good pal. Glenn Healy check with him. He lives about seven eight kilometers from the the facility near pickering. S- okay. Look I'm I'm I'm wide awake now but I'm like what is going on like there's an accident at a nuclear facility. Not that far away. This can't be good. I run outside to the deck and I have still half asleep. I'm actually looking for small from that action going to see them. What are YOU GONNA? See? I don't know I've never. I've never seen an accident on the nuclear facility outside of historically speaking and it didn't work out. Well we'll look at journal. I'm looking at your look at your Mug here as we taped you got. You're surrounded by trees. What are you going to see why? That's why I went up on the deck to see if I could see a a plume of smoke or or something. Anyway I mean it was a bit of a rattling alert. Yeah it's a different reasons. But what's what's the unacceptable in the throat punch worthy reasoning behind. It is is the fact that they didn't send out the retraction until almost two hours later to say oops. Sorry sorry are bad. There was no accident. We made a mistake just routine training. Go both your day. Nothing to see here. So all the panic stricken people close to the facility. Let alone guys like me out. In the boonies twenty five kilometers away probably terrorized worried about the radiation poisoning. And everything else guess on their way. So anyway I'm I'm throat punching the Ontario Emergency Operations Center or whoever was in charge responsible for pushing the button in his botched training Routine now do you remember a couple of years ago in Hawaii the I do. They put out an alert. That Nami no. It was an alert that there was a missile or something coming on. That's right and so I had a buddy would there and he's like so you read this. It comes on your phone. You're like well. What do you do like hide under a picnic table? Like he was tax. You say ray I love you know. I was low on the list but he was. You know what was I going to get under a picnic table? He's like there's no information and you're just standing there looking up in the sky. I mean it would be funny but it's not funny one hundred. It's not it's funny because nothing happened. It's also the same story as you. There's an alert goes out and book a while before the retraction came out so for all that time. People are in flato panic man of blood. Nothing happened that's scares. I'M GONNA take my throat punch to the ice though because that's easier for me and Are going to go with Tyler. Anisa the Ottawa senators. The sense have been playing their rear ends off. They play really hard. They ever want a whole lot but I think the season has been could be qualified as a success so far. Yeah so they get into a shootout against Detroit on the weekend and Tyler is the first shooter. He goes in and flip. Stick over and tries a backhand. I don't know what you call it. Shovel shot that. The goalie stops great. Move when you're playing road hockey outstanding in practice just flat out silly in an NHL game. I love that you did this because so as soon as it happened. We're doing that game actually Friday night Testimony and I were in studio and as soon as it happened. I mean I'm old school when it comes to the shootout and all of that I mean if it works okay. You know it was creative. It work is hard. Ottawa wins the game. I guess but Marcus Holmberg had been terrific in net for the sense played a game against the team. The Detroit Red Wings doesn't want to lose any more either. So I I share this throat punch. Good eater bringing up and it's still not making the playoffs. I get that but he still going to have some respect for the game and I just thought it was really silly that he attempted. He could've done this ten times in a row at practice and scored every time. I still think it's silly. So we've got Oscar Drake's coming up right and I want you to think about this. We've got between the benches right around the corner. We're getting that next but One of the questions is a what constitutes a dirty hit in today's NHL as opposed to back in the day. When when you plates hold on I can see. I'm watching you here and I was just thinking when I played. It was hitting somebody shovel kidding anyway. Now the hamster on the wheel. I'm looking at you now in your you. You've got some some some thoughts on this so all on where we're getting ask ranger eggs next. But between the benches I WANNA give credit to the National Hockey League. I understand as do you. What all star weekend is all about and this year it's in Saint Louis. There have a great time in Saint Louis. But all-star weekend is for the fans it's for sponsors is for the national broadcasters to have a little bit of fun with the players nobody goes to the all star expecting the players to compete as they would in any game of the regular season or the Stanley Cup playoffs. So so that means the National Hockey League is gotTa tried new innovative things to keep it competitive interesting and they're introducing a women's three on three element to the all star weekend in Saint. Louis I'm just GONNA say it right out now. Now Ray this is going to be the most competitive and compelling and interesting aspects of that all star weekend in. Saint Louis agreed. I do now look when Kendall. Coyne blew the doors off everybody in the in the skating race last year that was one player and then. Brianna decker was in the amongst others Was in young my skills and she did an awesome job. But what they're going to see is I think there's ten players per team. They're all off the Olympic teams And you're going to see some of the very best players in the world playing in a three on three game and you're right. They won't look at it like an exhibition because it's a great opportunity for them. I know some of these girls through get through my wife. Cami and They're they're pumped for this I. I think it's a really great idea. And the All Star weekend is supposed to be about celebrating the game. A hockey It's not just it's not just the NHL All Star game. That's part of it. But the all star weekend is about the game of hockey and women deserve to be there and I think they'll do an awesome job and they'll put on a great display. I'm excited to watch it. I am too. I know it's going to be a an entertaining aspect of big part of the All star weekend in Saint Louis. I'm because you touched on Elvis. Moore's Lincoln's I WANNA go back to that a little bit here. Elvis left the building in Vegas as he said with the three three shutout on the weekend over the Bagasse Golden Knights. I mean I. I don't know Elvis Al. I like what I see from Elvis. I like the personality. The character and I didn't mind the that Elvis came out. How long was that like two three weeks ago when he said Yeah. I'm not talking to the media anymore on game days I just I I don't want any confusion. I just WANNA focus on what I need to do to stop the PUCK. We can't argue with the results or the positioning or direction. Now of Elvis. Moore's Lincoln's he's a he's a really interesting character so he grew up in in a terrible circumstance You know if you know the story of our Tammy Pinera and it's it's much the same they they didn't have much money It was a broken home. He ended up going to Switzerland to play. And you know he's kind of a wild child a little bit and he gradually matured and grew up and his agents at the time Columbus had drafted him and wanted to bring him to the American league and they said No. He's not ready to go there like we can't have this guy sitting around in. Cleveland. Ohio by himself it. He's just not ready for it so he put in two great years in the Swiss League At the World Championships in In the last couple of years he was brilliant. That's where I've seen him play. I've seen him play not a couple of times but a dozen times. I think the guy's going to be a star. I really do. I think he's fantastic. Now you get kicked in the teeth here when he came over and started and like every other young guy that you know our first year goalies twenty-five that comes over but there's a personality there's a fight Manny legace whose goal coach. Hey at tiny Manny legace says. His demeanor reminds them a little bit. Like Patrick Wa. You know like the wall was so arrogant in the net. Like score on me. And that's is what mercifully has a positive arrogance to them. I use that term a lot because I think it is. I think it's really important. All the best players now have an arrogance to them. They know they're good. They know they're gonNA be good. They know that they can change your game and you can go across the board. Even the most humble of people we just had Wayne Gretzky on. There was an arrogance to Wayne's game. Because he knew that he needed to score and he was gonNA score or he was going to set someone up. He knew it in that. You can't fake that and I'm telling you this kid has got something in Columbus and maybe that's why they weren't so as I mentioned that word so up in arms when Bobrovsky was gonNA leave so little self analysis here and this is a perfect soundbite for us to promote the podcast moving forward. Would you describe Ferraro as being positively arrogant when I played nano rate? Now no I get it. I mean there's a level of arrogance about you know is there. I'm willing to say it really mostly positive. But here's the thing I would say. I'm going to be serious. Here's I turn this into a psychology evaluation of myself. No I'm not half of the stuff I do what I'm fighting with people on twitter. Geno where I'm doing that from Drake's probably an airplane or the bathroom. I've got time I'm not. I'm not I'm not like taking time of my day to fight with somebody. I think it's entertaining. I think the I think my twitter followers find it entertaining to there is no arrogance to it now. I think I'm confident. I was more arrogant as a player misguided misguided as it was maybe. I thought I was better than I was. I should've looked at my the teams I played for any good. I would have been on some better teams speaking of tell me about dominic. Khoo Balik smuggle one hawks forward. This kid can put the puck in the net another one of my favorites that I've seen at the world championships last couple of years. He's a big check forward He skates really well. He strong got good hands and so in Chicago. They took a flyer on them. Signed him out of the world championships and I did an article with one of the writers from Chicago before the season and they said you think he can make the team and I was like yeah he can make it. I think he's good. I think he's going to be able to score now. He's got sixteen goals. He's tied with Olafsson WHO's injured in Buffalo? As leading the rookies in goals scoring I think it's possible he could be in the conversation to be in in the rookie of the year finalist. Now the rookie of the year is GonNa be either Quin Hughes or Kalema car. Yeah I think he could be in that final group. Chicago hasn't had a lot of great things to cheer about this year. This guy is a good player and they play him with tapes. They played them with Kane. You know he plays. He plays with good players and he's able to do that. That's not a that's not an easy thing for first year player to come to North America and do no. It's not an easy and impressive. Young man however weaken hockey podcast. We asked you to send your questions to us. By email or Agra Andrex on twitter or through social media and I gave you a couple of minutes more than that to ponder our first question right and yes this is. You gave me the first question rape before you asked me if I was arrogant the I know that was. That was a blindsided. You a terrific answer you did you thought about it and you dismissed it but then you gave the self analysis that I was looking for was well done. Thanks Dr Darren so the question comes from Travis and Travis says since rate you played when the standard was much different so if you ran the National Hockey League player Safety Department how would you describe what is a dirty hit. Because and Travis's right in this there are a million different definitions of a dirty hit. What is a clean hockey play from current former players media fans etc and even exists as confusing now as what the standard might be for? Pass interference in the national football like. I'm not trying agree with that. I don't think it's as confusing. But what would you classify as a dirty I would say late and high and vulnerable the vulnerable part The the the most dangerous three feet on the ice or around the boards all the way around and when guys get smoked in that area that in most cases is a dirty hit. Because it's from. It's to an unsuspecting player. Where the potential for injury is great. Those are really the high hit. I think they've done a good job. Most of the time with those Trying to eliminate them. Now you've got. I think people have to remember that you can say we're not allowing those hits anymore doesn't mean guys aren't GonNa make them means you penalize for them and and so obviously this is coming on the heels of the you know of the weekend in Edmonton and Calgary with ca chalk and Kassian and there are. There's a bunch of different ways to look at those hits as I said earlier. I don't think I thought the League set the standard. When Raffi Torres was suspended for hits for where he came from above the goal line traveled a great distance and made contact at the goal line or below the goal line. I thought that was already. The Standard was set. Apparently not I think those are. I think they're dirty hits as I said earlier. All right and Aren't we appreciate the question and go to? Jp He's JP is the Gretzky interview thought was outstanding. Thank you for that JP. He's asking us to share a favorite memories of watching Wayne Gretzky as a player or playing against him rain. Do you have a favorite memory for me? It's with the exception of Nago and ninety eight. It's basically anything. International Eighty seven candidate go up with. Mario ranks right up there. Of course but for you is there. A favorite memory of Wayne A few the final face off in the Canada Cup way. Yeah they end up with the three on one and Larry Murphy is working like a dog. He's the guy that's going to get the PUCK. And grits looks over and goes dime going to give it tomorrow and he passes it behind the plate tomorrow. I just love that whole sequence of the play. I do have a A picture We were playing in Edmonton and he came over the Blue Line on the left wing which was right in front of our bench and he turned to remember how we used to hope to the board back at all the time and saw everybody got sucked onto this one half of the ice and he threw his backhand pass. It went all the way across to as I said to him in the interview to nobody except it was Yari Curry. Like he just knew he was over there. It was like that's what I remember. Gretz is the subtlety of how brilliant he was all right now from Finn every year we seem to want to apart the NHL Trade deadline Because in television at Tsn you know we've turned it into a spectacle both the the NHL Trade deadline and the fridge and frenzy July first. So Finn Wants Allies. The trade deadline becomes such a dud. The last few years is that the constraints of the capping too hard to make deals. Is that Ronald players. Just aren't worth the prices that are commanded anymore or that. Almost every team still feels like they're still in the playoff hunt with the way the OT L. points bunch up the standings and there just aren't as many selling teams as there used to be For me it's the CAP. I think that the CAP and the parody that goes along with the National Hockey League regular season. That has some influence. But what about you The cab jammed things up. The CAP makes teams. That would like to make a move unable to do so. And the standings bunch so tightly you're going to trade something you're not going to give up asset on your team that's trying. You're trying to make the playoffs. This is where dregs I would love to see the NHL have a designated player contract. Because I think it would open up space you would be able to pull one contract per year out You can you designated at the start of each year and that contract would sit outside of the salary cap that would open up cap space if teams don't have cap space then while it's their fault and they can't make a move so the because the to the questions point the difficulty is a. I need a left-winger guess what I see a left winger. I could make a trade with but I've got no dollars to make it. So how are you going to? How do you make it work? It's IT'S I do get tired of listening all the time to now to evaluation of all they've got added Defenseman. Look if we know they gotta add a defenseman. They know they've got added defensemen. They don't have any room to do it. I think that's what that stifles the trade deadline now could you trade that asset? If could you if you're allowed to pull a contract out of the CAP? Could you trade that or it would be a maximum. You know? Each team has to have one you have to maintain or would you be able to shift that contract? If the player you've designated is actually a tradable asset. I mean you can't trade the the contract that is being pulled out of the loop but maybe you can reassign it to another player You would you would have to reassign it because each team has to have one. But if I have my designated player that I wanNA trade off. The acquiring team can fit him into their cap. They can have two designated players. I don't see how that would work very often because those guys are going to be your biggest salaries in motion but absolutely you can move that contract. You just have to have space on the other end then you would have to redesignate somebody for the end of the year. There has to be one designated player per team. Nice all right. We've got big news coming up but I'm not going to share it just yet. We're going to leave it. We're going to save it for the closing segment and I'm not even sure. You know this. So cardinal after US onto well. It's IT'S RAY. Andrex hockey podcast. Breaking news is it's not like I'm about to announce big trade or anything like that. I we have to get through our fantasy pool update. Let's take our time with us. Yeah no we're pushed for time. We congratulated Erin brewer. Who's our first half winner? Atta Boy Air. Now sits in second place of the rain drags hockey podcast fantasy pool with seven hundred one points three shy of Kurt Hamlin. Who's at seven? Oh four as we tape this Monday afternoon. Ray You're plugging right along. I am an just an impressive display. Here six hundred eight points. I'm fifty nine points back with five hundred and fifty nine points. It's it's almost like you know. In in Europe they play for relegation. Come on this is where you're at at the level. You're going to be relegated out of out of the pool for next year. Yeah See. I'm already pushing rob gray. Everyone a UNEO Dean Ellie robberies. All of these people right. So they've got to find a way to sell this segment before the conclusion of the regular season. Just so that I can cover my arse for the dinner in Switzerland so not out of pocket. That's how I will while tell you they'll have to sell it big. That's a big. Uh Very nice last week an episode fourteen. We talked about my. Gwp's now you just saying no no. You talked about your deep. Wg's and gave yourself. I've got a great bucket. I don't know who else and saying that. That's fair all right. We've got a wrap this thing up but before we do. This is the big news L. on John Tortorella of the Columbus Blue Jackets who you spoke soul glowingly about earlier on the podcast has agreed to join us in episode. Sixteen of the rain hockey. Podcast I think the goal should be to get towards through the whole segment without him saying something off color. Well I actually dealing with Todd. Chirac with blue jackets by the way and so I. I not that you have to explain. What the podcast is every single week but I said to you know I said look pass on towards you know. We want to have a bit of fun here because towards can get bit surly if you haven't noticed and all of a sudden we're going to be in question to the podcast and it'll probably be me last house. Fishing was this off season. And you'll get pissy. Disney dragged to not talking about fishing. I thought this was a serious interview. What's wrong with you and you'll slammed the phone down or something like that so I felt like I had conditioned the interview oil. And have we clarified this? I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure that todd is fine. And and torches looking quite. Frankly it's not. It's not whether Todd's fine. Apparently he's a big fan of yours. I did not know this. I didn't know what are you. GonNa give me now. Now no no. No no no. Apparently he's never heard you but he. I sat next to him on the desk. Tsn He clearly heard me before se as he had what he had one year of us and couldn't wait to get back to coach well. It was because Dottie kept asking them both Sean every right. Every time the quiz would materialize. You could just see towards eight this quiz. What's wrong with you people? So he was happy to get onto the bench and onto his hockey life. What your week looks like partner are known was. We're recording. Your Winnipeg did the Sunday game. You've got another game coming up. 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AHL Alumni Fantasty Draft

The Reigny Day Podcast | Ontario Reign

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AHL Alumni Fantasty Draft

"You're listening to an LA kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit L. A. Kings Dot com slash podcast. You're listening to the rainy day. Podcasts the official podcast. Go beyond. You'll ring with your hosts Cameron close and Zach Duly. It's time to get in the welcome in to another episode of the Rainy Day podcasts. We're going a little bit off script this time it's GonNa be a different type of episode Than what we're used to were we're used to. I Know Ryan already teased it on twitter. A bit and that was trending worldwide. So I'm cameron close. Ryan Holt. Is the voice of the Bakersfield condors. He's with us as well. And he's our first non player coach or CEO and president of the Ahl Future CEO and president the guests that we've had on so thanks for swing by. I'm excited. I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having Manda yet. So it's an exciting day on the rainy day podcast. I'm excited to be here. Will Zac duly is also on the call? The rain insider finally is looking at a guests through zoom video. Who HAS BIGGER BEARD THAN HE HAS? During this quarantine done my best to to retain that title. But we bring holte on ee. He just shows a southbound have been growing this thing since our Suspended and I think he has as well and he's got me fair and square. So Ryan is again the play by play man for the Bakersfield condors. And it's kind of my attention. The condor is don't have a podcast. Nope we do the the weekly radio show that we post on on soundcloud but yeah. We've we've got to get into this podcasting see if we can rival the. Rainy Day podcast. I'm not sure if we'll get there but be nice to the rainy-day podcast has no rival is the best podcasts. In as far as I'm concerned the hockey landscape the only podcast that before the quarantine at a dashboard in professional ring. So it's a it's a big deal and We're very happy to where we've gotten but again no rival and if you do get into this game then up it's dog eat dog world out there and you can forget about ever coming on our arts kind of try. Liked it so today as I mentioned? We're going to do something a little bit different and we came up with. Everyone's doing these drafts. That like redrafting. I know that kids men podcast on the La Kings audio network also is is redrafting. Certain years and say Oh. I wouldn't pick this so we kinda came up with our own. Ahl flair and we made some rules and holds Zach and I are going to each draft a team of Ahl Alumni. We're going to have six forwards or D. and a goaltender each other smaller teams but then after the episode. We're going to go ahead and post those teams up to social media so the millions and millions of rainy day listeners can vote on whose team they think the best. And if you pick Ryan's than stop Congress back yet either. One is accurate us. You know so. We'll see how big this continuing to split the vote we could. Actually we might slip the vote. That might hurt US yeah. I didn't even think about that. She wouldn't be good to lose your own. Podcast drafts. Well Hey if you have a good team and then you have a good team. There's ninety to create three thousand burner twitter accounts just to win. I will buy you can buy counts. Right can buy followers. I'm calling Russia. Might be time to do that. I've I've always heard that you can buy followers that if you really look at someone's followers you can usually tell if they did. How much followers costs if you want to buy? Good question injured maybe. I don't know ten a follower. What's it worth to see your dancing around? It makes me think a you know exactly how much they cost. Is there a website where it's like you Amazon or yeah I know that? It's positive on their lacunas gone on Ebay and by twitter followers Zach boy check had like fifty thousand. I think it was just a populated. Whatever city he went into used to follow everybody the phone him. Yeah I think there was something fishy going on without one. And he's like everyone. It was weird at the time. So the rules for this drafts are as follows. The player needs to have entered the league or have been drafted two thousand five or after so for example. I know we were all looking at March donohoe. He started playing four zero five so he I'm going to say won't count for this. He'd he'd be like I know you about. This was a lot more difficult to research by the way with the rules that we made that I thought it was going to be eliminating. Playoff Games made it hard eliminating Hard like they were a lot of guys who played between like sixty and seventy eight games. Lot of good players jeered. Donna was like a John. Carlson I think two four five so kind of right on there and there are a couple of guys like Tori Krueg. I had like sixty five eight GEL games or something like that so definitely definitely some tough tough places on this. I have difficulty research. So that's the other piece right there. They need to have played seventy. Ahl Games unless they were drafted two thousand eighteen or after they can play forty. But I don't think anybody picked any of those guys I'm GONNA assume we'll say well not a redrafting the future Nhl Star. So that's the other thing it's GonNa be up to what the FANS CNN. Because you're getting their votes right so it's not you know that's what we're doing this for. We're doing it. Who can get the most votes who has the best team but technically? I'm going off in their prime to an extent. That's that's the team that you want. Look at it. You know. It's all time teams that everybody's putting out right now. Everybody just copies each other on social media. I'm glad we've Kinda got our own thing like I. I have seen so and I do them all in my head. I just don't post but I've seen so many of those like pick three in and get rid of the sex things I do law. I like seeing them out. You've just got this from other guys we should do. We should do one of us. We'll get there all right. So by way of random. Name Generation Ryan Holt has the first pick in the two thousand twenty. Ahl Alumni of seventy games or more that started playing two thousand five or after draft. So do you WANNA kick it off. We get going right away. It is a snake draft. By the way should we started off. Yes snake draft. Let's get it going. This is tough. I thought I felt like demon. Were tougher to come by for some reason like I don't know the reasoning. Why so Start the run on defensemen with the first overall pick in the Rainy Day podcast twenty twenty of the NHL with qualifiers will get the job graduate draft. Whatever whatever I'll go from the Nashville predators. Roman Josi okay. Six hundred and thirty two hundred zero games three time Nhl all-star. I'm going salary cap to like. I'm going like you get paid more. You're on my team know so there is no salary. There is no salary cap. Yeah I'm just. I'm rolling so Roman. Y'All that's that's a good pick that I thought I may be able to get him at three or four. Zack has the second pick in Zach. You're on the clock. I mean I had A. I had a top to here coming into the draft which makes to pick a good spot to be ultimate easy for me by taking one of those two players So with the second overall pick in the draft we are going to slide from the Boston. Bruins Brad Marchand I think is the best forward in the draft the Stanley Cup champion. A one hundred point score in this league in a guy who really actually is a poster child for the Gel with how long he spent in that league develop well over the seventy games. Mark now. An elite That's a good pick a peck. I I gotta say you both kind of jumped on me. There thought I might be able to at least one of those guys with the third or the fourth bit because it is a snake draft and I have to and I will select both of my guys at the same time to guys who both started their careers with the Montreal Canadians. I'm GONNA TAKE PK. Sue Ban at number three Max Patch already at number four so I think that we're looking at leadership we're looking at guys in their prime and we're an offensive team. I liked that they know each other. I liked it. They play before. I like the fact that Patrick is an American. We like that around here on this team. So that is a at three and four strapped has gone pretty much like on schedule. Here is like first second round guys know get get to retrieve you can trade up no rolls on trade so you can do anything you need to know. One's gone crazy at owns. Gone crazy out. The boards accurate. You're up to see if I'm maybe the guy to do it. I don't know So with the fifth overall pick take another forward. I'm GonNa Take Mark Stone of Vegas Golden Knights. Yeah that's off the board. Why Stone Attic. Window game player over the last three seasons basically appoint per game player over the last five. Selke trophy finalists. I think the most or one of the most underrated players in the league. I would I would have taken over patch. Ready Personal Yeah. You know what I would have to. If he wasn't so far down on my list here I kind of forgot about him. Apparently not very happy about that Ryan got two picks up and now you know what you guys. I thought you might have taken saks up. Maybe I'm GONNA get Lucky. It opens up someone else's board. Yeah I think I think the draft starts now mel kiper would say I think it starts now after. I'm like the The Oakland Raiders. Just like the seventy eighth ranked player like I. I wrote all right So with my second round pick I'M GONNA GO. I'M GONNA go to forwards here Back to back. I'M GONNA GO WITH A four-time thirty goal scorer in the NHL. I think that works Bobby Ryan in. His prime was pretty not great. I think we're still sticking to the board right now. All Right Bobby Ryan okay. So are in their funny story about Bobby Ryan when the condors were the Anaheim. Ducks H. L. affiliate. They didn't have an angel affiliate at the time. So guys like Ryan and a lot of their guys connor. James were all assigned to to Bakersfield while our beat writer. Mike Griffiths Saab Bobby Ryan's name on the Marriott. Registry the the itinerary that he had a room at the Marriott it was paper transaction. You ever actually came but You are still out in the lobby waiting for Bobby Ryan. Show up in DC H. L. But never never materialized the other one. I'll go with the guy I know. Well from watching the Bruins all the time. David Krejci is at work. That does I. Don't think that were. I don't think that works I think so now. Does he lose his pick her will? I'd give him a repick described. Don't let it happen again that he wasn't for selection in the NHL Drown is is but I was waiting for when he entered the League now. We said draft was very clear. If we need to run back the tape I will do draft or enter the league this Cam. That means that in that I explained that Giordano I mean this is so Bakersfield on trying do something to you know jobless could be. This could be disaster on my board than the way the reason we said the O. Five draft was to eliminate those who are in the O. three or four draught played that lockout year in the Ahl. We wanted players who actually played in the a not like you know like Dustin Brown would be eligible but he only played the lockout year as the only reason US says lockout we won't we won't take any picks away from you but you'll get another shot chance I'm rattled. I'm completely rattled right now. It really rattled by this whole This whole thing I'll go. I'll go tyler Johnson. Does that work Downton. Now I feel worthless look. Johnson is on my board Johnson's so now all of a sudden I feel like you know. People are skipping around a bit and now it's getting interesting to me back to me right all right. I'M GONNA get my first defenseman ear. I'M GONNA go with Keith. Yandell brother of a unh graduate. That's him was the as a matter of fact people we're GONNA take it. They keep the endo who I think is good pickier. Good getting around three okay. Okay so I have to pick now. That's the situation at hand and I also believe that defense men are a little bit more hard to come by in this so I'm going to take at least one of them and I'm looking at three forwards all of which I like but I think I'm going to land on Cam Atkinson. We're GONNA take. Yeah I think we gotta take him and then on the defensive side of things. Were GonNA pull some heartstrings intake JAKE MAZDA TORONTO MAPLE FORMERLY THE LA kings any guy traded for a I in to quality second round picks at the Guy. Worth having on this club. He took a took advancement. I was GONNA take here with my next pick Air So I was a good good selection in my opinion gonna go with a bit of a younger player with my pick here. Take Mike Hoffman. A goal scorer in the NHL maybe add some off issues but one of the most dynamic scorers terms of goals and the NHL in recent memory. So maybe not as long of a career as like a Bob. You're on but I think in his prime scored thirty six goals a couple of years ago. So he's a he's a a player not a bad pick on to coming back around. Yeah my board is completely I like. Just Kyle Paul Mary Count. Can I throw him in no COPPA? Mary's good I don't mind that works. He came in at Twenty fifteen that works for them. Seventy right tell people when I tell people. Hey you need to stick to these rules. I just assume they'll do it now. I feel like I gotta look at your picks. Make sure everything you know. I'll go. I'll go kyle Mary. Five Street. Twenty Goal Seasons Played One hundred and forty eight games to timing each all star. Nhl All-star let's go with him another swing around one right on the old snake. Tyson Barrie on the defensive side of things. I don't see why not I feel like I have to get everything approved right now. You probably should definitely definitely take some channels chair. I misread the roles now just completely rattled. It's something like that all right heck before I make my two and hopefully you'll take someone I'm going to take because I don't know who I wanNA take right now. Let me go a little little off. The board in terms of taking a different kind of player. GonNa Take Nicholas John. Merson Chicago Blackhawk three time Stanley Cup. Champion and with E. Run on defense meant that is. Kinda going on smart. The top guys on my border gone not a point producer but a defensive guy who is a big part of those blackhawks. Okay so I guess it's my turn now. It is where it gets. It gets very sticky. Because you gotta make hold onto Nicholas Chalmers. Yes sorry I was reading my Akwa. Go right ahead all right well. We're going to jump in. I'm GonNa take who I think. Now maybe not maybe one you has me but I think I might be getting the youngest guy so far. I'M GONNA TAKE AN UP AND COMING PLAYER. Tyler. Tuesay who I feel like is doing to help me forwards. I don't think it's way off the board. I think he's good. Opportunity was another thing is my next few well to be perfectly honest. The next two guys that I would have liked to take our golden knights but already have one. These kings vans votes. So I I can't be screwing around too much. My second pick. I believe that there's one goaltender that is better than the other ones. So I WANNA get him because that could be the deciding factor for some of these votes song to Carafe Skin. Just lock him up. Let you to fight for the other ones that I had on my list. The run on kickers as began ron kicker steal. Somebody had taken Rask. I probably would have waited and on the other guys. That Rask is superior as ours guys. Who Played Seventy Games? I think there's some good depth at the position personally I am GonNa take might take a golden night year. I have a couple of guys. I like it this area. My Board Jonathan Marsha. So yeah who is played a heck of a lot more than seventy eight JOE Games. He had two names when he came into the League. He was our augury Marchesoni Audi Audi March so first year dropped the Audi and then went from a to the end so it was a good decision. Probably played a big role in that. It did essentially took rascal go matt. Murray on the golding goal interesting things interesting to Time Cup. Champion Matt Murray off the board and every time I look at my full report I don't even know if they qualify now so kind of throwing darts at things You went young. Cam with the Tuesay I'll go young as well. William Neulander from the Toronto Maple leafs thirty one goals. This year He may add to that. I don't know the. Nhl Picks back up. So let's go. William Knee Lander borey. Consistency is a big part of this team. Okay mill go for over for the prices. You makes a lot of money neulander about about that area. My boards and think gets pretty thick right. So that's you took to right. They're going back to take a similar tech to William Neulander. Take Viktor Arvidsson Nashville. Very similar up and coming young player You thirty goal seasons in there we be as to To twenty nine so it's pretty happy to get him. Okay all right the. Da is tough. Like I'm looking very tough. I don't want to sound like a moron. 'cause I've got five guys that I put right around the same area so I'll start with the forward I'm GonNa take I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Take J. T. Miller of the Vancouver can knox and then for the D I I it's again. It's tough but I gotta get one again one on the board so I will go another former take brady scheduling. That's an S. A. K. A. J. I'm going to need some help on a good good cultural reference. There alty nothing if not up on the trends back to you and we're just about. We're already halfway through the draft. There's what three more picks each they were losing here twenty four. I have four four Orient. That's right that's right okay. I'm GONNA tug on some kings heartstrings. As well and take Alec Martinez has my third defensemen Stanley Cup. Winning goal Counts for a couple of votes. I think for me and smart bag with my best defenseman left on the Board. So take him smart. Pick when it gets tough doesn't WHO'S GONNA be in the locker room you know who's GonNa Start. I think about your presence who's GonNa get people. Oh I like that guy. I'm GonNa vote for that team. What are you thinking of? Glue Guy who you know. Who's WHO's had a lengthy career stuff like that I'll go Sammy vaatainen if that's allowed. That's my new favorite thing by the way saying the pick every time you feel like I have to go look him up. Trust you for as far as I can throw H. L. First Team. All Star rookie all rookie team to while seventy games on the nose and the AHL exact count count laid it all in seventy on the NAS. I may have to look up my life. Let's just double check you guys with your rules. All rooming all threw me off here. All about rules I am I am GonNa go by pick here and finish out my decor go carl. All's ner okay. That's a good pick ax. Kinda in a good position having not just going to save him for his last. Pick no matter what this yet he. That was brilliant strategy from the beginning. Sure didn't have a goalie on my board above around eleven. So that's fine. Did did a couple of mock drafts. Jesse just granted you the players a little bit sure share. I'M GONNA finish up my forward group with maybe not the board one but very good player Mats Zuccarello. Okay undrafted player came over later in his career but uh spent some time in the H. L. I think is a very next year. So you only have you have two more pick sack is humour in it's a defenseman goalie. Yes and what about you? What about you I have two forwards left? Okay do you. I have two forwards and indeed so I can kind of go either way so I will definitely jump in on at least one forward here on. Snag Tanner Pearson is like you. Said Sacco's heartstrings are very important and then see. This is tough. Yeah I gotTa take a locker guy too. I think so I will go ahead and steal CALC Lauterbach. The bottom line wing is really going out with. Hey we're talking about we're talking about About in their prime. I WANNA make sure. That's very evident so just whatever you need to do to justify a very good thing on us. It very effective player is run or effective player between couple defenseman here for the last pick. The I'm GONNA go with. Tj Brody of the Calgary flames first pairing guy in his prime with aforementioned Mark Giordano had a very nice very nice career. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA take him over Neither of you guys need to D- right or do you. Can I still needed okay? So I'm not GonNa say who am I what he doesn't though right so you just don't think I'll come up with them you might or you might. I don't WanNa sway you. Maybe between two guys maybe evaluate expertise. I think I no longer take guys. That's guys that even have on my sheet. I just got to like eighteen names and said that's enough. That's your team. That's that's the difference. The rain come prepared and the condors come to meet expectations and not go a step further with the legal players. Promise and over deliver so I have to Ford's correct so let's go. Andre Polat Calder Cup. led the two thousand thirteen. Stanley Cup playoffs in scoring. Nhl Age all rookie teams GotTa run on the lightning. That's basically how did my draft was. I just basically took Stanley Cup finals and just rolled off those teams. If you want the behind lightning can squeeze on this team. How many late. Now I mean you guys had the Golden Knights a run on Golden Knights. Run on lightning. This is a tough. I will forwards that if I need one more there'd be like six or seven guys it's GonNa be guys you can find thirty goal stores up now the guys that I can't play into you didn't pick there's already yeah. Who else again. Kind of on the younger side Vincent Tro. Check anyone goals. Maybe a year ago got a couple of twenty years. Let's go with that. All right player. Zaki rounding out with. Let me take a guest do. Do you know who you're taking a goal. All right you take an Hopi. I am GonNa Take Brayden hoping that's what I figured. doesn't a trophy winner Took him over to young goalies who I think may be better one day. But we're not there yet. Connor Hello Book and John Gibson. Both in the discussion but hope he's surprised. Bennington wasn't in that discussion Jordan Bennington. Yeah actually for some reason he was. Kinda him and hold beamer in there as I can't get Rasco yet one of them but I think is guess it would have been there but I guess the only only played one year. No that's true. I mean one for one jet but to be honest the way I did my draft a little different than the I just went on ocoee. Db went through the draft years and sorted by games played. And that's probably why Bennington didn't come up because he's only played you know less games. I didn't even get that far down. Would Crawford of qualified in? Oh five think he he could have been there. Yeah Ben What about a smart one? I didn't look at him either. Well he was Ben. Bishop was fourth on. Yeah well let me rounded out with mister irrelevant. I have to do another D and again. I don't love the Golden Knights stuff but I'm GonNa take shape theodore that's my so now is the D. that I was gonNA throws over him and Brodie I had As my next guys all right so a few guys and then we'll get through. We'll read off all our teams so we can have that in front of us but if you guys that I'm surprised in picked I thought Thomas Tatar would be in there. Yeah I skipped over. I'm ones I don't know why I think I just WanNa Pearson but Nazem Kadri can get back. You know need a rider kyle. Her as Jacob Rana Gustav Nyquist good names on there. That obviously didn't get taken the decided things. I have Brayden mcnabb. Robert twos hallmark methodic flurry. Show some good names. That were that were left you. You have anybody on your list that you're surprising. Gets egging at Adam Henrique Tyler Toffoli Jake debrusk At getting dead off from Florida. Those are my forwards also. Add On D. Colin Miller and Rasmusen Anderson. I would I used a league prospects to make a list and then started doing an ex. Al And I definitely forgot to transfer to fully would've taken 'em maybe UNRIG too. But I I went pen and paper and had like the star in like plus double plus signals. Oh yeah yeah so anyway Nyquist was probably the biggest was just because of his is. Ahl Stuff You know two time all star calder. Cup Brayden mcnabb on the back end. So is there Yannick Weber? Maybe so why. Don't you read us your your team in its entirety? Just go through it real quick. That's a good Matt. Murray in goal Roman Yosi and Tyson. Barrie is the top de Sammy. Vaatainen and Mr Glue Guy. Carlos ner played eighty two games a bunch of straight season. So He's just GONNA play. Every is great Bobby Ryan thirty goal scorer Tyler Johnson. Kyle Palmeri William Lander under Polat Venturo. Check who I'm hoping can find some form here. What gun breeding whole being net? I E pair is Keith. Yandell and Nicholas Jal Merson second deep pair Alec Martinez. Dj Brody Upfront. We've got marshon. Stone and Hoffman Arvidsson Marsha so and mass forward Zuccarello Zuccarello. That's right over here just to make sure. Oh thank you very much. I took Max Patch. Ready Cam Atkinson Tyler Bertozzi JT Miller Tanner Pearson CALC Lauterbach on defense. Pk Sue Bannon Jake. Muhsin up top. Brady's sketchy and Shady Theodore as the back pair in to grasp is the net minder. So I think they're pretty even at if I did it again. I might even switch a few things up like you look at it but I like I like my team and I am Pretty confident in San. I think I probably have the best one. So it'll be interesting to see who gets second. So Jesse Cohen. Our producer is on here and Jesse I just want your first thought of who has the best team if you would well. I mean goaltending and defense are obviously the big decider in a lot of things so I think I would probably have to go with Zach just for Brayden Hopi Alec Martinez Nicholas. Y'All Merson Keith. Yandell and T J Brodie but if we're talking about forward groups Cam I think I would have to go with you. I'd be curious now that we've run out down those lists of players that didn't get taken if each of you had one swap to make starting with Holt going to do in any way you cameron. Who would you swap out? If you could just make one change to your. That is a that is a good question. I would find a way to get Tomas Tatar on my team. maybe get rid of Tro. Check for that But I'd find a way to get to Tyre on my team I was between Zuccarello. Nazem Kadri Adam Henrique for my last pick since we're just going six forwards in not lines of forwards out. The Guy had a single center on like I have six wings. Let's all right we Insulting sized online. They are not going to face off team. We're GONNA be going to be a perimeter team pat but I would have pride pride taken. Henryk or Kadri would have been nice out at least one center. The I think I would've switched out Calcutta Roebuck for Tyler to fully And that's that's probably a so that would have been the switch Pearson into fully. Make everybody happy. Would you have taken tyler about six rounds later? Well I would have gone list. I would have thought he would have gone a lot earlier. I'm surprised that you both I. I had them up. Top on my. Maybe just like very good player is play. I don't know I I thought he'd go ahead. I had him below Bobby Ryan and above Jonah. The march so so interesting. The way we see the game four-time thirty goal scorer Bobby Ryan over him. No I have Bobby Ryan above. He was hitting the headers. I ranked the forwards Martian Patrimony Atkinson Ryan as the top four. Bill saw a tyler Above Marston Mark Stone. Didn't make it on my list actually had mark. Yes so I don't know how you snuck him. I just can't believe I didn't even see him on. I totally would snag stone about got their thought. That's what it is. There's the fine that was really different again. It goes back to what I said. It is difficult to do research on this because you can't just sort like all time age on so I started by. I did that. I went through elite prospects draft ears and just seat who had AHL games played and things like that. So I started with that. But it's tough when you can't go through everybody you gotTa Kinda Skim it then. I went and looked did who played in. Ahl All Star Games and that was kind of a challenge to because there's so many guys that don't play the Games because maybe they spent the whole first year in a then were so good. They went up the NHL more in the game. So it's it's tough and then you just gotta like gotTa go off what you think and who you can remember. So there's there's no way to go to elite prospects or hockey. Db and sort by seventy games played draft after five hundred seventy list and who's done the most in the NHL? If you can do that I feel like our teams be different kind of of your on research. It's more of a challenge. I still think you should have been allowed but I know we shouldn't have been because it was against the rules. It's interesting to Redo this with like different circumstances to like if you did like drafted after a later year or like present day forum that's Would be much higher. Like William Neil. Lander would be way I building a franchise kind of going into the game tomorrow with these guys right or allowed. Like the Oh three drafts for address like the debt Playoff Games Minor League Games ever like Eamonn guys like cut off based on like a little bit of like one thing you could have really like Even better or if you had just done. Ahl Alumni one game plan. You'd have seems to be loaded although yet act. Yeah there I'd there would only be a handful of players that would still be on the teams maybe Sue Ban Patrick Atkinson Marsh Mc Shan Gotten Leon. And they're from from the oilers. You could have a bunch of guys that way. Been a lot of people you Taylor Hall and also word Everley All avondale. I remember going to see a game. When the Oklahoma City barons played the worcester sharks and it was like hall Gins all those names At the beginning two thousand two thousand ten. Yeah that was a two thousand twelve hundred thirteen. Was that the allows the show as images loaded shoulder lead all defensemen and storing the only played thirty games I you and then the was like Worcester. One reisman number Justin Scholtz one. I think it was the first team that year. But he didn't play after the lockout started he just had like so many points in the various like thirty games. You're like six forty eight thirty or so yes ridiculous so before we let you go Ryan. What have you been doing This corentin keep yourself busy. Yeah we're just trying to trudge along here Kind of doing a lot of stuff looking towards next season whatever that kind of looks like and catching up with some some of our players and stuff like like you guys have been doing and just trying to stay as active as possible. It's Canterbury now. Been a strange time here. So are you still in Bakersfield? Do you get out of dodge now in Baker so we actually. We bought a house during the quarantine so it looks like very domesticated place. It's coming along. Beautifully was actually a perfect time to move. Couldn't have worked out better with us. Not Having to go in the offices and stuff so sure a lot of a lot of furniture building which has been great and I got a baby on the way in in August so Get Not all squared away and Looking forward to the summer and looking forward to seeing you guys again. It's been far too long hair hopefully sooner than later but I nonetheless we'll have to do this again. Maybe with some different rules to allow you to try to work. You're cheating and it also would have been interesting. You know we talked about getting a fourth on And adding like Andy from San Diego You would really dig into the depths on that like defensemen. Some interesting ones taken defense menu would have done way down the list I think then we'll see we'll post this up. We'll see what people think of the teams. We'll see how much response we get. You know what the Nice thing is is that it's going to be difficult for people to call us out on who we missed because they might just assume that the guys didn't play seventy eight gigantic. They're not going to be like how you pick NAUSEAM COUNTRY. They'll just think of country wasn't a melts. I just stay really do their research. Which maybe now that I said this people will we might be off the hook I told Jason Chan approves of my team. That's all I hope. Well Jason Ceviche the League's director communications. I did send Tim because I didn't think it was cheating and I still don't send them email us morning and said who who would. I need a pick no particular order. He actually he just did it off and I could tell because he put crunchy on all who else he on and get like Kunitz reading. I think he read your email. I think he read your email verbatim and like I just the league. You know five I did not give him world cheaters. Addition colty and we'll find someone else. Who would obviously cheat? And we'll let them just like that'll be a half hour. I didn't see the seven in the seventy. I thought it was zero. H Zero all right all right Ryan. Thanks for swing and we appreciate you stopping by. Thanks guys appreciate you guys. This is fun all right. So thanks. Again Ryan Holt the Bakersfield condors broadcaster for swing and on is fun to do. This was something different. Hopefully enjoyed it and hopefully if you haven't been over to social media check it out. We will post a graphic with the names of everybody. Who's on each of our teams? You can tell us who you think has the best who you think has the worst and who. We agreed. Egregiously left off the list. Maybe you know someone that we didn't even mention there that we left off so before we close things out. I want to give a message. From one of our sponsors who are committed to keeping American businesses and organizations supplied with hand sanitizer Jerry the cove nineteen pandemic realtime pain relief they have substantially increased production of. It's real time hand sanitizer. Plus SKIN CONDITIONER TO THIRTY THOUSAND UNITS PER DAY. The skin conditioning. Amtra Anti Microbial Gel contained seventy percent alcohol and kills ninety nine point nine nine percent of germs. Special deal is available to kings and rain families use coupon code kings with your purchase and receive a free gift to do that and to use that purchase code kings go to our T. p. r. pain relief. Rtp ARE DOT com. So Zach. I WanNa close things out I haven't caught up on the. Mj documentary. I'm really trying to space it out. Because there's only so much you can watch these days but it kind of begs the question like when. Hbo Twenty Four Seven. I know it's on a different network now and I know a lot of teams even have their own kind of things. Now when that first came out it was the coolest thing ever and when those twenty four seven whether it be hockey boxing you couldn't get enough and when I watched as Michael Jordan. I love the behind the scenes stuff you love to see behind the scenes sports in the locker room. What are they saying the bench? What are they saying on the ice things like that that we don't get to know Day to day. I love that stuff. Do you were obviously going down a path where more and more access is going to be allowed. You know I say that as they kicked all the reporters out of the room right before we we We went to this. The this whole situation but access to players is getting more and more mainstream. More of the shows are popping up. Do you think we're gonNA reach a point where players push back all right. We want to have some privacy again. We want people staying out of the locker room to an extent I think that the players don't necessarily have that power to do so. I think that the power is is how the access is restricted Not necessarily that. It's off limits. I think there's always GonNa be certain times that will never be allowed to have cameras in the room. I don't think you know in between periods. You know you're going to have cameras in the room but I think pre game and post game. I think the push is going to continue for more and more of that access and I think you saw like what the xfl did integrating more that kind of coverage is gonna be come the norm or at least the asks from these networks and it's just going to be a balance of like how would that be received by players and coaches and maybe more importantly for decision making like GM's and hockey ops departments who are GonNa WanNa keep some of that private stuff private so it makes me think like from time to time you have various reporters that That obviously players and coaches don't like like they will find the ones that they don't like and sometimes the reporters. It's on them sometimes. It's maybe a little bit of oversensitivity but you wonder if it's like the same outlets asking for access in a gives the reporter more to talk about with her ex coach because they now see what they're like in the locker room between periods it gives them something else to write about. It almost makes me think that I if it got to a certain level at some point like the NHL HBA would push back and say all right. You know what our guys are now. Getting in trouble because of the the. I guess it's almost like it's A. It's a privilege not a right kind of thing we're giving you privileges as the media to get this extra coverage and now you're using it against their own teams. I feel if reached a point like that. You might get that pushback because as a fan I to see as much of it as possible as a player I probably wouldn't want I'd probably want that at zero if possible. I think it's on you know creating a positive relationship because even the rain you know we might players up. We have audio. That is entertaining. But we know that we can't release it because it may be put the player or the coach in a negative light. You know because they don't really know like I'm in the locker room. Maybe they're talking about strategies that we can't be releasing. Its you know swear words or things that we everyone that's involved knows doesn't go out something you may be watching internally have a laugh at player by finds it funny but everyone knows that that kind of stuff is always not going to go out at least the team. General. I think the question would be when it's external media outlet leg if it's NBC sports in NHL Game. Was that relationship going to be like because when we're doing it it's all team personnel will have the team in the players interest in mind but when it's a broadcast company that's not necessarily the case. I'd be interested to see if that dynamic would still be there you know if that access did increase at like a national level. Sports journalism is totally different than what it's almost as watching. There's a really good documentary on Netflix. Ken Burns Vietnam War. And they have a bunch of veterans on it and one of the veterans as we were the last generation that just assumed that our government was telling the truth to us before the Vietnam War. He was trying to make the argument before the Vietnam War. If your government just believed it and you know and this and it's almost kind of like that in sports journalism. Now we're like I you know I'm from New England Patriots and I remember when they put out the deflategate article immediately every Patriots Fan was. That's not true it's not true. He's lying he's trying to you. Know ADVANCE HIMSELF. And and maybe maybe he wasn't who who knows what. There was a time when an article that comes out. Something that big. Everyone's like well. You don't put that out almost one hundred percent true and now you wonder like well. Does he have some ulterior motives? Is he trying to get ahead? And it's changed so much. Obviously you're much more tied in with journalism. Zach that than I am. Do you write every post game story everything that you do player pieces. I like to get your thoughts. I just as a I'll speak from like I'm I'm also on the other side to like. I'm a consumer of sports journalism. Like I just want to be entertained really. And whether it's an investigative piece IRV it's like a more behind the scenes even if it's a fluff piece about a player like if it entertains me with information that I didn't know or was interested in knowing that I'm going to read it and it's going to get me to click on it and read the piece which I feel like that's my that's what I want as a consumer. I don't need like hard hitting stories all the time necessarily I just want information that I couldn't have gotten elsewhere that I'm interested in getting. What does the athletic done so much differently? Because they're like the one now like you have the subscription and I before I got my own would make you predict the articles that I wanted to see because I can only read it and then know started sharing that. I said I'm an adult. I gotta get a subscription. So I What have they done so much like? How did sports illustrated volunteer rice? And you know. This is a whole tangent. Obviously that we're on right now but it's interesting that they are so prevalent and the athletic is like where everybody they've just taken over. I'll give you two reasons why. I think that they are successful. And One sports illustrated I think was putting out the same content but it was in a printed magazine. And I don't WanNa wait. Until next Wednesday to rebut. I could read this Thursday. You know like I don't WanNa wait for my Irish roots boards Would read it and we both really enjoyed it and I think I still would but with the athletic like I I think it was. It was wasn't inexpensive subscription really. It was one time I paid it until I have it for the year and I can just go on any want. I have it sorted by the teams that I like and I can read anything. That's written about him in the second point I would make is. I think that these writers were handcuffed by the newspaper industry. I think they were forced to write. Four deadlines enforce to write for column sizes in Word Counts Etcetera. And I think that handicapped what they were able to do because they were say demanded to put out a piece every day to fill a print quota. But now they're on their own schedule. They could put a week into getting all the quotes in all the interviews. They want for a certain piece. And it's up the quality tremendously. I think it's the same writers that could do in this the whole time but they were just confined by working for a print newspaper print. I don't think we'll ever die. Certain parts of it But you have to imagine. Sentencing is still get the hockey news. subscription. I love those magazines. I think they're excellent. I think because it's everything I'm specifically interested. I was never a big sports illustrated guy. I got a subscription for a couple of years and then switched to the hockey news. I actually had the hockey news. Then went to sports illustrated. Somebody gave me up for a gift. I tried it for a couple of years. I got another after that and then I was like. I just want the hockey news. This is what I'm interested in if I want to read an article in the NFL basketball around the MLB. Then I'll find it online but otherwise I don't need a whole newspaper to. I feel like people have always have also gotten more finite with their interests and what they're willing to read about and what they're willing to spend their time on whereas you know your Father's magazine was you read about all the sports you know a little bit about everything so anything to like. I subscribe to the athletic because like I like the dolphins and like the Yankees. I like a soccer team in Europe. Few teams I wanna read about. There's no other place or I can buy just those teams coverage like if I could pay ten dollars year. The dolphins newspapers in ten dollars. Like I could do that. But you can't just get the articles so like I would. That's the continent I'm interested in. I don't care about the you know politics in Miami. I don't live there. I don't care about the Dolphins Trivia question of the day. Do you know which website was the biggest downfall of the American newspaper. The where the website that contributed the most to the downfall American newspaper sounds like an opinion question. But I it isn't it's very. It's I promise you if you Google it. There's I'm saying I'm saying enough here but I know that this is a. They lost the majority of their business because craigslist got big classic. Were a huge part of making for news. I would never thought of it from that angle. Classifieds was huge and they lost everything like once. Craigslist became the place to go. Get everything that a paid into that too. I love craigslist. I used to when we were England's Falls Zakia remember. I'd leave notes sometimes on the table to let you know where I went in case I never came back. Just didn't know something's in evidence. Luckily I always came back fiery arts all rights act that about wraps it up for us. I'm looking forward to seeing what people think about the drafts nonetheless. I look forward to talking to you next time. Have a good one sack. We'll see against it.

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Jan. 31, 2019: The Maple Leafs Break The Ice

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Jan. 31, 2019: The Maple Leafs Break The Ice

"Backs to shade bellies to son axe to shade bellies to son back to shade bellies the sun. Let's. Elliot. Today's podcast is brought to you by controversy or as a across the pond contrive Assi, lower Panara, n- Milstein, Tammy Pinera and his agent. Dan Millstein now Milstein came out recently. Instead, my agent will not talk contract until the end of the season over to you your mo- Callanan pull the pin out of the grenade and roll it in the room. How do you read this one? You know, I don't know if it should be agreed in the room hockey players are business people now as much as anything else, they understand how contracts and things work. If I was a player, I don't think that would bother me actually Panara wouldn't because he's played all year. Really? Well, the Broschi thing is mystifying to me it benefits him to have a dynamite season. He hasn't had it. If it was him. I would probably be a bit more angry about it than I would be about pairing. But John, I think players understand its business. The one question I have is does. Karelian believes teams good enough to win a Stanley Cup. If I'm sitting in his chair, and I believe that I'm all in. I'm pushing my chips to the middle of table. And I'm saying if I lose I lose to a great hand. Now, if he thinks they're not that good, then I'm making the trades. But if he thinks they can really win. I have no problem with taking a run at it. If your yard lane. Do you not as well have a look around the metro all due respect to the islanders can feel how you feel about what berry trots done. It's been outstanding. Are they legit is this a legit deep playoff team is legit contender in the Eastern Conference. However, you feel about the Allender hit pause on them look around as we record this podcast caps. Seven losses in a row. I still think they're outstanding. It's Berg penguins dropping down again, we're recording. This before we do the Tampa, Pittsburgh game this evening at this point lose. News of four of their last five. Do you not look around the division and say why not one hundred percent? Are there any upsets on the planet any more? What's an upset? Exactly. There's no such thing as a playoff upset anymore. None. These teams are so evenly matched. The lines of difference are so tiny compared to each other. Look how many times of the Washington Capitals come out and say we were across bar from being down three nothing, and then LARs Eller scores office Toshi and we're back in the series. That's how close that series was for Columbus. Last year. They are on the ropes caps around. The Cavs were on the ropes. They were Allie in the rumble in the jumble. Looking like he was about to lose. I just think that if your the Columbus, blue jackets, and you think you've got a chance you're going for it. I know conventional wisdom is trade. These guys for something you're gonna have if the cap goes up to eighty three even with. Ranchi sign you're gonna have you know, thirty million caprow that is the big commodity in the NHL. You think you can win go for it? And if I was in that seat. That's what I would do say, what do you say? Then to all the people who maintain you can't let these guys walk for nothing. And you're not letting them walk for nothing. You're getting cap space. That's not nothing now kicking on. And also has more information than I do. Maybe somebody steps up and makes them an unreal offer that he just can't say no to that could happen. The one thing I like about him is that last year. I think in a lot of people's I shoulda traded Jack Johnson. And there was an internal thing too. Because I think Johnson wanted to be traded. So he could increase his value as a player, but he said, no, I'm not doing it. Let's get a first rounder, and he didn't do it. Same thing with Matt Calvert he knew he was going to be a UFA and held on. So his history is to do that. I support that. I think you have to show your organization that if you believe it can win you're going to go for it. So I think that's history. And I think you'll stick to that. You think there's any way he resigns Panara, Idaho. Jackets, look, Jeff how many times when you are in high school. If you ask somebody out even university later before you got married if you have somebody out four times, and they said, no. Four times. How many time was the fifth lucky about zero zero time. Well, I'm glad you can explain that. Because I can't speak to this problem. I never had a problem getting people to say yet the romance complex, right? It's hard. Sometimes when you're in it because you don't want to give up hope share. But the odds are really against you. You have to assume that he's gone take it as a pleasant surprise. If it's the other way around abroad, I wanna get to your Florida ID here and a couple of seconds. But what's the latest? I don't understand. What's happened to him this year? He is he's a dynamite. Goalie, I think we all know that. But his season has been so weird from blowing them off last summer in a meeting is not causing himself any money, but Broschi this year it remains to be seen if he's causing himself any money, but he's certainly hasn't played up to the level that you would expect him to be and he has shown he can be if he was. Ninety percent of normal. You think you have a chance to win. But he hasn't been there. And he's at lost the job at times to corpus sallow to me. That's Carolina's biggest decisions goaltending. Good enough. Now, I had heard last summer that he was willing to consider some teams at couldn't prove it. And then I heard during the year he had said he was willing to consider some teams. I did say that I'd heard that. And I believe it to be true Pierre LeBrun reported a week ago or two weeks ago now that he has said that he will consider teams. But there's one thing I don't know here. Jeff, and that is has he actually given a list has he actually said to Columbus put it on paper that if you will deal me to one of these teams, I will go because what I've heard is that it's verbal he is said I will. Consider these teams. But when Columbus asked him to put it on paper he and his agents said no because they didn't want to give up complete control the situation. So the truth is somewhere in the middle. How do you feel? What's your Spidey sense on how this plays out? Then. Sometimes we can see players behave a specific way off the ice to enhance their negotiating power with that team. I don't get a sense that this is that example, I think Columbus believed that LeBron's gone. I think now they recognize Panara and will be too. I think somebody's gonna make them a good offer for. They're going to get it. And they're gonna have to decide eight. Does it meet the threshold of what they consider as acceptable? And be do. They really want to do it again. I know I've said this thirty five times I sound like a broken record. But I'll do it again. I really think if I'm them I'm going for it sometimes in your history, you have to say we're going for it. And to me that time is now for Columbus. So a slight do thing somebody will tempt them right on the forward. Essentially what you're saying is mentally just treat them as if there are rent. Yes, higher percent. These are the rentals. We have picked up this run higher percent sneaky slash stealth candidate for both come July. First. You have a feeling about Florida. I just think that's a place both of them would be willing to go. I think that's a team that's going to need a jolt. You know, they've missed the playoffs. Again, a couple years in a row after getting there and the biggest issue they've had is goaltending. And not because Roberta Longo isn't game. It's simply because his body isn't there anymore. First of all, the one thing that we all have to remember his Lwanga lasted a lot longer than I think a lot of us thought. He would I don't know how many people thought he'd still be playing now. But it's finally happening. And you look at Florida wi- of they missed the playoffs last two years with a pretty good team goaltending. Yup. And I could see Panara and wanting to go in that area too. Now, I'm curious to see what that's gonna mean around them. Are they going to have to move some guys out to get those guys in? But I can see that organization saying we need to change things up when you too breath of fresh air, and those guys can bring it, and I think they'd both play there. The Florida Panthers conversation is on the horizon for us eventually here on the podcast. In the meantime, we will pick up after the official introduction with a couple of trades one minor one very major as thirty one thoughts. The podcast is brought to you by the next generation GMC Sierra de now. The trauma of leaves have acquired defenseman Jake Muhsin from the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for forward, Carl French drum the rights to Sean dursey who is a recent traffic answering us first round pick in the twenty nineteen NHL draft Faysal Kameda taken away six months. I'm sorry. This is really the key is ability to play the pop end of our defense that plane all obviously growing up, you know, everyone is released fan and those included who know kind of funny how life works and here we are coming back home to play for the team going up kind of. Probably that, you know, as well Ricard Grahn bring this week national coach will be aboard here in a couple of moments looking forward to talking to him about a number of things the differences between key players in North America and Sweden and the chances of him showing up behind the bench in the National Hockey League and other issues that revolve around but are not exclusive to Swedish hockey players. So stay tuned for Ricard Grundberg here on the podcast and a couple of moments. Meantime, Jake Muhsin is now ex of the Los Angeles Kings. He's now a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs on that blue line with one more year on his ticket at four million dollars a copy to which Elliott Friedman says blank, I said, I think it's a good trade for them. I mean, they're in it to win it right now. And they didn't take anything off of their roster. You know, I think one of the reasons that they did not go with some other possibilities including the likes of Brett, patchy and Alex. Her Angelo is that it was going to cost them pieces off their current roster. I don't know what the talks with Carolina turned out to be or not be. But it was going to involve a player either, captain or Yonsin or something like that. I have heard and I do believe that the talks was Saint Louis for Pedder. Angelo involve William knee Lander which Toronto did not want to do. So that was something they were not willing to consider as we saw they could do Muhsin without taking off their current roster. And I think Muslim was a guy that they are interested in even though he's a left hand shot. And what I've heard is. They were Muslin's most diligent and aggressive pursuer. I believe Montreal been there. He was in the patch ready deal. The aboard the L, and I think that's Tampa was there. But when it really mattered who was the team that was aggressive. It was Toronto. And he was the guy they targeted. Let's say there must have been other teams. You mentioned Montreal you mentioned Tampa's while you do wonder about a team like the boss. Bruins. How much of this is the maple leaves got Muhsin and someone else that may police may face in the playoffs. Didn't I think there's something to that? But again, the only other teams I really heard were Tampa Montreal. I'm sure there were others. I can't say for sure that they were there may believes done. I think they'll look for a right hand D. But now it's dollar in dollar out. Now, you can look at sites like cap friendlier puck pedia, and you can say, okay, they've still got a boat, you know, some cap room about four million cap room. But what you don't want is Mitch modern Austin Matthews bonuses to go into next year. You know, the fact that monitored and go to the all star game eliminated one of those bonuses. But I think your budgeting I was told for about three point seven five million. So you've got to keep that doesn't happen. So it's dollar in dollar out for the Maple Leafs. Now who does this help the most on that blue line? Some would make the point that this helps Riley Frederik Anderson someone made the point that it helps Travis Thurman. Because it moves Ron Haines you down to a lesser role probably paired with him. Yeah. Probably I think that's all true. I mean, the biggest question is who's going to play the right side on that Riley and Muslim pairing. Who's it going to be Darryl Sutter's? We saw quotes was pretty Vatican. You know, he's never done it before. When I look at if you can pause on that, I always go back to Mike Babcock's Detroit Red Wings squad where everybody shot left. This was like the Soviet national team in the seventies. Where everybody except for maybe one player shot. Everyone's a left hand shot trae Redwings outside of I think maybe three I have an answer to that. Because I've asked him about it before when he went to the Stanley Cup final with Anaheim in two thousand three he had six left E shots. And as you mentioned, Detroit he had mostly lefty shots. And I just said, you know, what's the difference? And he said it's much faster. Now, he's it back then you could get away with having guys on their off sides now with the speed at the way, the game's played is much more difficult. So he doesn't think it's fair comparison. I've asked him about that before one of the interesting names that popped up in the end. It's the first round draft pick to the Los Angeles Kings cog runs from goes the other way as well. And Sean dursey Sam causing team has been going on about Sean Thursay forever. Love. I should've called SAMA didn't realize love Sean been going on. I don't know. He does too. And he loves Sean, just involved in a big trade between Owen sound in Gulf of the OH L wider Z, and why not someone else maybe a Marley's the fence when the trade came down, and the least broke it, and I did a FaceTime with Caroline. And I said I was surprised that little grin wasn't in the deal. I figured that. That was the guy that the kings would go after the did ask about Rasma sending from what I've heard in Toronto stock to its promise that he was not going to be traded. Right. You know, I asked around I said why not little grin and I've noticed to stomp on a kid. He's not even twenties got a long way to go. It just seems a lot of people are really down on him right now that they just feel that he hasn't progressed the level that was holding expected. I was actually I was driving down to the podcast today. I was listening to bananas and Justin born on the good show on our flagship here in Toronto the fan five ninety and born was saying that one of the. Things with little grenade. Is he just seemed so far off to me, and I'm not seeing those major strides taken. And you look at stats a lot of times for defenseman. Like, he's doing fine. He's got he's got some numbers. You know, nothing to exceptional. I think for his age was putting up impressive numbers at the American Hockey League. Right. But the thing is so much of that with with skill guys. Like that where you don't trust them to play physically in the game. Is that they're putting them on the power play in a position where you're their only defense. News touching the puck with your best offense a forwards and there just racking up assists. You know? He only scored once last year, he had sixteen assists, only has two goals this year, you know, another six assists. So to me is probably getting a lot of touches on the power play. And that to me doesn't indicate someone who's developed enough to play at the NHL level. You know, again, he's nineteen years old this could all change. But it certainly looks like the opinion on him isn't as high as it was a year ago when he was taken in the first round. So there were a few teams told me they were not surprised now some teams were hired on jersey than others. But they said they weren't surprise the kings would go in that direction. Now, the Jake Muslim is a maple leaf always curious what the reaction is how the dominos fall here. Okay. Toronto is made their move is Boston going to make their move does Tampa make their move does. So and so make their move dominos fall. Now, do you think I think Tampa they've been looking for right hand shot d for a while now? And I still think they will continue to do it. I mean, they've been linked to Cody CC will see, but I think Tampa does try to add on their blue line. Boston's and interesting one, I think they will try to add I've heard them linked to Wayne Simmons before the one thing. I do believe they didn't like the rental last year. They did with Rick Nash nothing have anything against Rick Nash. It didn't work out. I mean, I've not the only guy ever said there's several people who cover them of reported that Don Sweeney isn't too eager to do that again, which could affect the decision that they make you know, Simmons is an interesting I've heard the market on him as a bit slower developing than the flyers expected. I think that's because of the log jam near the top. Everybody waits for stone into Shane Pinera. And you know, I wouldn't be surprised at that opens up a bit more later, but I could see Boston having interest in the m. But like I said, Jeff, I think a lot of the market is being held up as we wait to see with those three guys in those two teams decide to do. Let's get there. Then chain stone. It's the weekly update. What's happening with the Iowa, senators, boys? I believe they were supposed to either meter talk. Again, this week to Shane and had persona and the team Nick had the offer out there. I hear one day. People say I he'll sign the next day. People say, no, he won't, you know. I think to Shane is really wrestled with it too at times. My belief is he gets traded. But I'm not like it's not like I'm going onto my betting app on my phone putting money down on it. I lean towards that way. But it's not the most confidently I've ever had. I'm more confident that stone get signed. I think he's invested in that organization. He's been there. I think they've talked about the captain see, you know, it's just such a wild card. It is you just never know what's going to happen. And I've been told that by another player on the team that stone has been particularly careful about talking about it because he understands the volatility of the whole situation, and he just doesn't want. He just doesn't want news about it. You wanted to be a smooth as possible? Could Pittsburgh fit from at the shame. I have thought that. But the penguins. What do they have to trade for matching? Well, not exactly secretive love to relieve themselves of their preferred. Well, I think that's going to happen that they made the Alexia move to re up spot and cap space. So what do they have like, you know, what it was gonna want for someone like Mattachine is on a rental? They will want a first round draft pick has young player. There's Addison the young kid who plays out west. He's probably Pittsburgh's best prospect. But and Pittsburgh, we'll go for it. But I wonder if it's enough like if there's a bidding what the Velez out there that the other team I see in the same position, San Jose. I think that in theory, they could always use a major up. I think they're really good. And I think they could use a big upgrade or would like to have a big upgrade just to make themselves even better in top heavy division. But again, you know, their first round tied up a pick and Vander Cain. They thought up a pick and Eric Carlson, eventually reach the point where we say we can't do it anymore. And it's not that Pittsburgh doesn't have the will. But I just wonder if they're going to have the ability. I think they're still big on Furlan, and I could see him being a more likely. Target like the teams I wonder in all this is Nashville when peg Vegas Tampa. Although Tampa heavy. They're not teams that are trying to have a run. These teams you mentioned that want to win the Cup. Yes. And they've got the picks or the prospects to do it. You mentioned Michael Furlan. Yup. A lot of people can't figure out why Carolina would want this player in their line-up wildly popular specifically of recent note. Whether it's the fights demonstration can play top six roll up. Why not you know, Jordan Martineau gets signed a two year contract? You a little bit of sandpaper and star on the lineup as well. But why not Furlan, and there's a big dispute about how much they've discussed if any I just think concept wise Carolina doesn't think they can do it. Terrifying. Signed for five four the trying to sign a ho I just feel that they feel they can't do it back to Pittsburgh quickly. How did you Jamie Alexia cap space? You said it that's just it. Yeah. And they also have a lot of d- like Toronto have to do something at some point. They got a ton of. Here's the thing though that I keep going back to Jim referred noses. Someone that's done it before a couple of. Times if your team is planning on having a long Stanley Cup run. The one thing that we've learned is you better have a lot of defense around. I mean, we work with Brian Burke aspic about two thousand seven we got the Jack marijuana skins indepence pretty quickly in those playoff rounds. If you planning on having a run while over depth guy, isn't that what everybody coming back. They got a lot of d- there. They do have bodies. And the other thing too is though it's interesting. I think they've looked at moving model for some time too. So I mean, we'll see you know, I believe Rutherford knows what he's doing. He likes to make it big and he likes to make pigs. So that to me that's a cap space move anything with Alex Adler? I was under the belief many of us were that at learned the Vancouver connects from meeting overall, Starbucks, you know, I just haven't heard anything I heard it's been really quiet. And maybe that's the way that the connects like it. I'm sure that's the way that connects like it people could be lying to me. But I haven't heard there's been a lot going on. On there. I just think that the biggest question that we're going to have is term even more than money. How much term is gonna want. Given that Travis green has this team flirting with a playoff position right now. Does this at all complicate what Jim bending things leading in the trade deadline? Keisha was that they're going to be in the playoff hunt? No one will say publicly in Vancouver for the obvious reasons. But I don't know that anyone that thought that trafficking was going to get them to this spot. Forget that one of the reasons that Trevor linen was out was because vision, the strategy is vision was we gotta build we're not there yet. And there were people in the organization said we are there. So I would assume that whether they believe it or not they knew that this was potentially or believe that this could potentially be a possibility. You're not mortgaging futures. If I'm the connects I don't think so either, but other frisky than we thought they might be looking at trade that ownership always looks like whenever a star players available. Like, hey, PK sue van they were there. I think Eric Carlson last summer, they looked into it. So they're gonna look. I don't know the answer to this. I don't know that you know, the answer this. There's probably only one person that knows the answer to this question. How good is Lula Morello think the islanders are always not telling us. Remember, he'll tell us by February twenty fifth Elliott two thousand twelve I worked on that Eastern Conference final between Rangers and devils. That was the first series. I did with New Jersey that year. So the day before that it began the devils were practising at their facility and Newark, and I asked if I could just go meet with them and invited me to his office for a little bit which added, and I asked him about philosophy and getting zidlicky, and he goes, you only do that when you think you can win and they ended up going to the Stanley Cup final that year before they lost to the kings. You I've always remembered that his philosophies don't change time. I look at his team when I wonder if you says, do we think we can win not that he's going to tell us, and you're the other question, I have there is you kind of have an idea how much for bras is gonna cost you. And we've all kind of thought that the islanders were the favourite for Brodsky serve high wonder if that's different now. Well, like Lenin Greis is night and day from last Jay last year was. The underscored all the goals and got none of the saves. And now it's flipped and their tops in the metro in. The thing is like, you know, Leonard better than anyone else. Right. So you know, what he's capable of where he isn't his life. You know, I'm just wondering if if that's that you make as opposed to LeBron's key. So far, it's been a home run. It has been a whole manner and the New York Islanders endless. And it was a hail Mary pass. Not unlike what Cliff Fletcher did with Devon Dubna with Minnesota. That was we need something. Let's try through for the end zone here and it worked for Minnesota. And so far as worked for the. I'm kind of with you on that one. Hey, anything new with we spent a lot of time with them last week anything new with Edmonson. You know, PSA Caras coming back and apparently he's getting close to a conditioning stint. And he's on long term injured there at the cap, and they're gonna have to move money to get them out there. So I'm curious to see what they're going to be able to do. That's number one number two. I think they're gonna take their time on their GM. Search. They could have had Mark hunter right now. I I really believe that if he was the guy he could be in there today. But I think they wanna wait and to the season. Yeah. I think also they wanna talk to Kelly mccrimon, and I just can't see Vegas letting them go now to important a time. I just think that they're in it to make it. I think they're trying to be really careful. I try they're trying to be really smart about it. The no their fan base is terrified they're gonna make a bad move. And I think they get that. But you know, I do think something has to come because you know, they really believe in Sequeira. They wonder what kind of player he can be. They're hopeful that after all those injuries will be something. But I know they really believe in. Personality on the blue line. How over the trade deadline depends on where they are really expectation that everyone can kind of be in that same spot. Falling out. You know, actually, I is a name. I'm not saying this, particularly because he's I just talked about Edmonton. But another name I heard today was palm Ville from buffalo. He's in the last year of his contract. Yes. Played a ton of bunch of games lately. He's been under ten minutes. So I wonder if he gets nother crack to go somewhere and take another run anything else outside upon villain in buffalo heating up big time. Oh, yeah. I think the question is, you know, what are they go Skinner? Can they make deal you feel in nine million on that earlier on this year that number came out and everyone kind of said, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Put a leash on that somewhere between eight and nine but he's scoring goals. Crazy. That's how you get paid since somewhere between eight and nine Rangers before trade deadline will be one of those where everyone's at podcast, but Kreider hazed sa- Carello, those the obvious. I'd be going if I was weighed the mcquaid for sure if I was Nanteuil team thought I could win some edge. I would be going after Kreider, but I could see the Rangers wanting to keep them. This is supposed to be a one. Thing. And then they're going to be in the free agent market. I saw I wonder what they're going to do there. But I really liked Kreider. I like him a lot. And I think he's a guy who just runs over people, and you need that Calgary might have some interest in as Carello or something like that there as a depth guy. Really? Yeah. I mean Calgary's looking for some depth on the wing admits and at one point Edmonton, definitely looked at it. Look zuccarello a Kreider, Zuhdi hours. Kreider too. But I think they looked at zuccarello also and the other guy we haven't mentioned from the Rangers Hayes, but you've mentioned Colorado before. Yes. But I'm not sure they're going to do that. And I think also went to chain get set then Hayes is gonna come up, and he'll get some interest. What was your takeaway before we get through card Grundberg here? I can't believe is taking this deeper to the podcast. We've mentioned what was your takeaway from all star weekend in San Jose, the women kinda stole the show. They did it is still the show. First of all I love being in good weather jerky. No lost soul. I move along on Monday. Or was it Tuesday? What they was it was it yesterday Tuesday. Well, it snowed. Mine. They right. So we shoveled Tuesday took me three hours to shovel my driveway. I'm Shuffler, I we have a snow blower, but I don't wanna use it. I want the challenge and about two hours into this. I'm like, you're an idiot, and my wife thought I was nedia to being good weather was really nice nice. Hey, I'm happy for you. I don't complain about all star weekend. I, you know. I know there's a lot of people. Do it. I understand why. It's there I've called it a necessary evil and someone from the league laughed when they heard I referred to it is that I just thought this year, the skills competition was flat aside from kindle Coyne Scofield and brianna decker. Yeah. They have to change it now twenty twenty two we're all hoping they're in China. So no all star game twenty twenty one in the CBS conversations your national calendar. The players proposed a World Cup in February of that year. In the league said, no I can't see the league. Five what I do think that could happen is the old Ryder Cup idea where it's North America versus the world, and you pick a city and you play it. And I know in the past they've talked about London. So I would like to see that. I think it's a good idea. So next year Saint Louis could be the last year of the current format, and I think they should try now I have to think after this year what coins Scofield dating decker. Did the women are going to be entered in the competitions more of them. I would assume so. And I just want to say one thing about decker. Like, I I saw some people out there saying while she only got a good time because there was no pressure on her. She wasn't competing. I don't buy that at all. If you're an Olympic level athlete, which she is you want to do. Well, it's not like you're going out there fooling around because you're a demonstrator. You wanna go out and show everybody in front of a packed building. And all these players that you can do this. That's just stupidest thing ever decker for sure KENDALL Coyne Scofield we had her on hockey central at noon on Monday. And I asked her, but that whether any nerve he's been part of huge gains before will championships Olympic spin successful. How nervous we and she said she was extremely nervous. It was right. When I got in the economist, David, I'm like, are you nervous and he's like a little nervous. Later, but. Everybody is everybody's watching. And there's that expectation and it's one thing for Connor trying to win fastest skater three years in a row. And then there's KENDALL Coyne Scofield. Yeah. Who if you lose an edge, if you blow it then all of a sudden there's fuel for the naysayers that is a huge amount of pressure on that young lady. And also don't forget that. Hey skin had blown a tire. Yes. And I think that affected some of the NHL players. They were looking at it. Like, no like, I'm not doing that. Because I don't want. What almost happened to him to happen to me? So she wants to prove herself. And she wants to prove she belongs, and she's seen what happens and she's like, I don't care. I'm going role for it. I'm going right for it. So I think that the women will be next year. More women will be in his competitors. So I think they'll be there. But I also think and I've been being this drown for years. The alumni ally of frady Adam Oates was there because he was a guest of March. I flees, and he could do the passing competition and still the specialists we've talked about this one more time char Weber, and I do believe that was discussed this year. But they decided not to do it. It was for like all-stars only. But now that you're opening it up. I think you can bring them in. And let's give Connor mcdavid the challenge. Get the eight fastest guys even bring that guy in from the age who skated twelve seconds. They give him the best challenge. Greco? Yes. Bring him in bring them all in bring them all in bringing the ringers. Listen, I'm with you. Yeah. And trick shot competition. Ravi shrimp. Come on down one more time watching KENDALL coins. Go by the way, also I like Kevin Xs idea that in that passing accuracy, if he can't do it and a certain number of pox, you get a five or ten second time penalty. I'm watching the fastest skater. And I do it every single year, but this year watching KENDALL Coyne Scofield skate. The way her legs were moving. My hip flexes were sore. And I just sat and watched. It was outstanding. How quick she moved her legs? It was painful to watch it. Yeah. As guy there's only exercise much. I didn't feel any pain. Okay. Very good on that. We'll take a break come back with for card romburg next. Thirty one thoughts is brought to you by the next generation GMC Sierra Denali complete with the world's first six function multi-proposal gate. Nets sliding around on the way to pond hockey use the built-in load stop to help keep them in place. Loading what seems like half a team's worth of bags the tailgate. Also turns into a step for easier access and has an inner gate that flips down for unloading all the year, you can fit GMC. Sierra Denali, we are professional grade. Elliot, I have been looking forward to this for a while for the longest time. We've talked about the next wave of players. We've talked about the next wave of managers. We've talked about the next wave of employees at various levels of NHL teams, and the one spot that we haven't probably given enough attention to is the bench boss, the head coach normally in the NHL this has been populated by North American men. You wonder what is going to be next? And if the next wave of coaches is going to come from overseas to that we welcome aboard Ricard Grunberg who's he national coach of team Sweden who joins us on the podcast. Now regard. Thank you so much for joining us. I know the NHL has dipped it speak into the fountain rather gently before of Samson certainly of recent note, but why in your estimate has there been a shortage or a lack of European coaches behind the bench in the National Hockey League. In welcome to. Cast by the way. Thanks, jeff. Great long question. Start out with. I think it's a tough question Jasser because I'm not in the position of hiring and coaches National League's it's still for me to kind of dig into that one. I know that there's a lot of great coaches in Europe. That's for sure been forced to question actual team for few years and goes against some of the best European coaches talking about the checks Russians in in the fence, especially but there's some great hockey minds over here. So I I think yeah, there's a fool of coaches their shell definitions into now. Jeff, I think there is a reason that Ricardo's on the podcast so earlier on we this year, we were talking about Alpo SuAn. Yes. And I brought up the point that he told John Davidson then working for hockey night in Canada that it would take half the season for the team the Blackhawks to get used to assist system. And I said that was a reason that maybe some European head coaches wouldn't get a second chance and Ricard is. By a guy of Neil glassberg who lives in Toronto who we both know and Neil reached out to me and said Ricard Borg heard that and he is not pleased with what you said. So Ricard, I'm giving you an opportunity here at the come right out. And tell me why I am totally clueless on that particular point. Well, I agree with you sounds like a pretty long time to install a system half of still system. I and this difference to that was a few years ago. And you know, it's a lot of things have happened since then I think in particular, I think, you know, with access of, you know, back in my day, you know, only time watch NHL hockey was really under hockey school of super tape of you know, the Cup finals a few years before that. So nowadays, you have access to more or less everything. And I think kids growing up today. So obviously if you play hockey and Sweden check or show we're in Finland. I mean the biggest goal is to play a National Hockey League. So I think you know. That said I think, you know, the hockey world is it's a lot smaller nowadays. I think there's a hybrid world influences from all kinds of cultured hockey cultures. I know that the sweetest idle hockey that some people refer to as a mixes bland of of a lot of influences from other nations. So I think nowadays you talking about a hybrid world of hockey. And I'm a firm believer structure in the culture shouldn't take half a year to stall, it should be quick enough for sure, and I think the stretching right now from European hockey NHL hockey is not that great hoping you let into that. Because I'm more curious now more so than ever not how things are different for more. How they are similar once upon a time. It was oh, the Swedes the torpedo. It's two to one in North America. It's opposite. It's a trap is one to two and the difference is obvious. But here we are now Ricard in two thousand nineteen I'm not as much interested in differences as similarities how are the styles? Similar from. Sweden to North America. Well, that's what the ratio is. So curious about because I played college hockey, and, you know, coached over in America when the sweet is I thought you fed raising approaching about to start working with them. And then start over a new movement of development comes to Swedish hockey, and you know, what I'm talking about twelve thirteen years ago and comfortably in North America back then and Scotian western Hockey League actually Spokane chiefs when the approach knew about but actually coming over and helping them out of North American influences back, then, you know, big thing was the the video, you know, for us to bake them different videos, which wasn't that great and big back in the day since we need European hockey. And also, the structure, I think, you know, when he's talking to, you know, a coach back then Swedish course, back then you're talking as a trainer trainer of ice hockey, not as much as coach. And you know, that was the big thing for them to. Bring me over and the involved in developing coaches and by doing that, obviously I never coach in Sweden back. Then, you know, had no idea, you know, what expect except, you know, starting, you know, working the way that I think the North American obviously North American influences because I never coast over in Sweden before you know, that I picked up a lot of things that's great Swedish locking talking about the way the ice practices and skill development as well, knowing which I think all the North American hockey, and the US hockey's been over a few times have an exchange for those guys in the sports talk in Cana looking at how we develop them skills. So that's Bill bridges Ricard. How many times have you interview with NHL teams the last couple of years say, you know, interview interview, I mean, I said probably a handful of times have been sitting down with different NHL teams and talked specifically, you know, but a little bit of future talking about everything from you know? The different positions with the team. And so yeah, but harmful type like was there one particular situation that you thought that you would be in whether as a head coach, or is insistent or something like that? Yeah. A couple of times, and it's being a little bit of a situation where obviously under contract I've been on the country last three years as head coach for national team. So, you know, obviously, I wanted to fulfill my my dude is on the contract and this year, I decided not to offer me a contract extension. I decided not to take their but to look around the corner a little bit, and obviously, and it's always the best league in the world. So of course, I wanna look at that avenue for sure. What's your view right now on positions are right wing left wing center. Right d- lefty Elliott Nighthawk a lot about, you know, the idea that, you know, position this hockey is on the horizon physicians are only wear you line up. And I even I look at someone like, you know, the success of the leaves Patterson who last year played as a winger and comes in this year Vancouver Canucks and flourishing as a standard and will win the Calder trophy as rookie of the year. Are we at a place in hockey in your mind where positions as we've traditionally known them mean less than ever? Great question. Jeff, I think we're steering away from that. I think steered away from you know, up and down the wingers, you know, responsible Centerman in the middle the defensive defenseman offense defense more to tell your hockey. And I think the way we're really trying to break the hardest thing right now, I think to hockey especially national archive feel this score goals. Scored goals is to be creative going looking outside the box. And and that's something that I feel is one of my strings always trying to challenge the truth. You know, so we obviously been fortunate enough to work with some great great defensive especially they can really join the rush and almost plans afford forward or be really involved in -fensive play where right there, you have an dimension of hockey that you know, made is not that common. You know? And then we'd be obviously really really successful doing that. So I think question, Jeff, I think definitely going to steer away from just you know, up and down wingers and defensive defense. I think it's more of a to tell her hockey. Okay. I wanna get some some general stuff Ricard if you were coaching and you had to pick one Swedish player to lead your team to game you had to win the state of your house who are you taking? Question answer that obviously goaltenders half the team. So well, let's pick goaltender them. And blinkers. I can't argue with that choice. You know, I grew up. I'm forty eight voyage Salman was my favorite players kids. So I always take in the prime voyeur psalm ING, but I can't argue with Lundquist. I can't argue with number five in Detroit was pretty good last time, I checked to drum. I mean, who's arguing Lidstrom too. But I admit I have a psalm ING bias. I always did you have a a long North American connection is the average Swedish player different to coach than your average North American player. Yeah. Of course, it's probably the generalize of different. But I think nowadays again, I mean the world, and especially you know, places like Canada US Sweden. I mean, we're very similar lot of ways. But of course, it's a could be a little bit of difference. I think you know, obviously. Myself to been around Americans, Canadians and Europeans. I think that's pretty good company of understand what's certain people coming from. So there's similarities there's also different aspects of individuals for sure. Can recall a few years ago in Colona at a C H L NHL top prospects game after the game. I had a conversation with one very specific very well known agent. And I said this agent said, you know, what of all the of all your players of all of your clients. I've never heard anyone complain about any of them. Why is that? And he said, I have a very specific recruiting philosophy a call at my to us rule, I recruit from the two most low maintenance places in the world, and they both start with S one siskel and the other is Sweden. I can't ask you about this catch one. But I will ask you Sweden are Swedes. The most low maintenance players in the world. It's funny. I do a little bit of connections is scheduled to some really good friends and Regina starts. Yeah. No, I yeah. I mean, I think we're coming from a culture where the collective is is really important. I think one of the reasons we really good team sports fear. I think it's is because we understand a working in the collective could be a little bit of a socialistic background. If you like, but I think that's one reason. I, you know, we have a different culture. No way for sure I guess the last question I have for you regard. Is you me the pitch you're going to sit down? You're talking to teams. What do you bring that makes a difference? I think you're looking for an outside perspective of, you know, I'm working with not only North American players, but you know, European place into buying them in the locker, and they can understand and one of those guys are coming from. I think you know, one of my biggest strings is just a structure and building the structure around the team. I think one of the biggest thing that I've learned, you know, coaching Sweden is what Swedes a really good in law in the players to think out. Nice coach doesn't sit on all the answers. You know, let the players make decisions on on the ice. Where's this? I came up. And it wasn't young coach was a lot of head all the answers. I give the players all the time versus maybe reverses something ask questions the curious and what they're doing. So communication's huge point for me. I think I can bring a little bit of perspective also this structure and the tactics because there are some some differences when it comes to National Hockey. I mean, the Russians plame certainly the checks play certain way sweetser pointing the certain way, it's not the same thing. And I think if you look at that combination of, you know, different tactics, why not try something different than when everyone else's in National Hockey League's. So that's the two minute poor of almost coaching philosophy. That's good resume. We're hired that you're higher cover letter. Well, Dan riccar. Listen, it's been a pleasure. We hope we can catch up with you again. Please keep in touch and what we'll. Get back on the podcast and best of luck in whatever is next for your career. Thanks for spending time with me. Thank you. I remember I made a bet with Heather Hiscox once when I was doing CBC news never causing morning sports, the Super Bowl bet. And the loser had to surrender his phone. The other person for an hour. Would you ever do that? Would you ever take that bet the gives up their phone to but not during the season? Look, I'm paid to try and be on top of things. Ricard Grunberg European coaches in the NHL, not as the systens, but as head coaches overdue. Well, I think that if he comes in. It's probably going to be as an assistant. I I don't know if he's going to jump right into a head coaching job. Look, I'm for anything that makes people better. And there's no question. The sports changing. It's opening up its is two different things and new things and at the end of the day. I don't care where you're from. When I was a kid grant fewer drafted by the Oilers Cougars believe it was Ingle magazine or something like that our goal magazine one of those old magazines goal hand. Yeah. The didn't article on Grant Fuhr being a black goalie, and there was a quote in there from Glenn say there, we are basically said I don't care if Grant Fuhr is purple. I only care if he stops the puck to which Mitch Hedberg was hold on guideline somewhere. People trail of Hedberg. But I subscribe to that theory. I don't care where you're from a what your background is can you do the job. And if you can do the job there's room for you, the one area, and that's when we talked at the beginning of long preamble talking about areas where we need to see new voices and seeing people to get new ideas, you feel that way about bench bosses. I feel that way about the media's well hockey media, whether it's through the O, whether it's truck doesn't matter. We don't have European voices represented at all Bobby Holik once upon a time when he retired sort of flirted with a little bit chemo teams at the all star game was he working for Finnish. Tv that's not North America. Where is that European voice on Canadian slash American broadcasts? They make up so much of the NHL. This discussion could go into a lot of different areas. Because you know, people would listen to what you just said and said there's a lot of different voices that should be on hockey broadcasts. I, but I think one of the toughest things is to get X players in the NBA all the ex players. They wanna be on TV, and they make a ton of money in the NHL not a lot of the biggest ex players want to be on TV, and the money is a different scale and you'll for example, Kevin be exit who's done a few broadcasts with us and was between the benches and all star weekend. He wants to be a dad, and how is that a bad thing? And can you get guys to commit to the job? You know, for example guy like allow European players. How many European players stay in North America after they're done. That is a very interesting question and hang on and specifically, although they've been a couple outfits Samuel Peterson Laura's. Coach's kid I know in New Jersey. There are a few that run camps in Florida. Yup. Specifically Swedes for the purpose. Cobra car. Yes, he does. Yup. Ricard Gronberg just on the podcast, generally. And this is a wide brush statement here when Swedes are done their NHL career. They go to Sweden, and they stay. Yeah. Alfredsson still here. A couple. I think it'd be dynamite as well. Great quote delivers. Well, looks fantastic all of it. But generally Swedes go, and they stay home. Why not Sweden to wonderful place? If I was weeded I'd want to get home as soon as possible and stay there very much. But generally, they just they go and they don't come back. Here is to see imagine a van diagram. And for those of you who don't of diagram is Google it. Tell you. Well, it's basically, it's all right. Segel's. So here we go. So imagine one of the circles is retired European NHL players and the other circle is people who want to commit the time to work at TV. How big do you think that? Yeah. I get I get what you're saying. Yeah. I get what you're saying. But I mean, what I like about the NBA guys is they realize a lot of ways, and you can speak with way more than I can on this one it realized that by staying on television. They keep their quote unquote, brand ally. And it leads to other avenues, regardless of went tell the Tobin guardless of what your earned of working television in the NBA outside of that staying on TV opens a lot of other doors for you agree with your personality on display, let's get to a couple of hashtag ask thirty ones. First one comes from Shalin Brady is a good one. How do you feel about the new player and puck tracking technology coming fulltime in the NHL next season. I love hearing all the different opinions on its while. I'm for anything that improves your enjoyment of the game. If you like watching that kind of thing studying that kind of thing, I think it's excellent. I like the fact that the league understands that there are some fans who don't wanna watch that. And that if you are the person who just wants to watch a relatively uncluttered screen with your drink of choice and your food of choice. They're not going to take that away from you. But if you are someone who wants to watch second screen with all kinds of stuff on it that option is going to be eventually, they're now the one thing that is shayla every else has to understand is. I don't think it's guaranteed for the start of next year. They have been a bit guarded on where it'll exactly come out because they know they can't get it wrong. So it might not be ready for the start of next season. I'm curious about the gambling aspect of it, the VR virtual reality aspect of it. I think that's really cool. I think there are people out there who know that they can participate in a game from Connor. Mcdavid point of view, and that data will allow that to happen when I was at the all star game last week. And I went to the house of channel which was their gamer activated Nanshan for the weekend. Like puck and player tracking. This is stuff. It is totally totally totally out of my expertise. And we are barely scratching the surface at the world. Yeah. We are going into see to me more information means more coverage because there's more to talk about and out side of what you may cause a lot of this speaks to second screen for me when I'm watching a hockey game. I want it as clean as possible. Right. I want then rock garden. That's what I want. I don't need a whole ton of drop downs. I need flashes of thing. I just wanna clean look. So this to me says second screen for that information. But with that information, this may sound very selfish coming from me. Okay. Well, you're selfish. That's well. Look, there's my naval. What this could do is enhanced the studio. Experience. Because all that information becomes available to us in studio as you go to the intermission. Now. There's a whole new field of information that we can use discuss what we just offer twenty minutes. Here's an interesting question for the people who are listening to this podcast in the first two years of the new deal here Rogers, we went heavily into the analytics, and they got feedback that said the audience did not like that. Too many numbers. And when I've told that to certain people there like what why we love that. That's silly. That's ridiculous. But there are a lot of people who absolutely eight them. And I'm wondering if we're going to have to get into a situation. Jeff, whether it's almost two different shows, hang on C when I see that. When I hear that. I say, okay, that's the bathwater. But what about the baby because I don't think that I don't like the baby. I don't wanna get rid of all I don't think that information is about I think if it's presented as math. It's a bad thing. But I've always maintained whomever can take that information that we all see on various blogs and various Twitter feeds and make it palatable and presentable for television wins. Yes, I agree with that. But I don't think discarded altogether. Well, they don't want analytics. So let's just talk about goals assists, hit some blocked shot. Right. Like everything else. And we have to find the middle ground. May I've talked to so many people in the quote unquote, analysts community about. This because I've had those same conversations. Oh, great. It's wonderful. We love no one on television. People. Don't want to feel like their math climb. Right. Make it presentable for TV. Great question shale and thanks for sending that one in. This one comes to us from Steve nests, Trent Frederick. Yeah. Had a huge fight in h game. Fielding was. Parasol with Frederick content of what's the piece of Frederick I willing to go the kits. Go to post in Frederick. Two. Who sneak a treaty? What stands out to you as some of your most memorable NHL debuts? Roof. I got one. Okay. And I've I've always had a question about it too. I don't know the year. And I hope I'm getting the players that got the assists. Correct. Daniel Winnick his NHL debut with the coyotes scored a goal. And it was assisted by two players that were also making their NHL debuts one of them was Martin hanzel. And the other and Anoma gonna get audited on Twitter instantly when this podcast goes up. I think was Craig Weller. I'm not sure so they all got their first points on the same goal in their first game. And my question is who gets the puck the guy who scores guy who scores getting it for sure you're not carbon that puck up and everyone gets a third could do this hockey after all that's more unselfish, look that would be my most memorable debut three guys all involved in their first goal on their very first game at the same time. I don't know how anyone could argue with awesome Matthews. Oh, the four against Ottawa. Opens the story. Before. This back to posted. But fat foods and the is littered with hats. Goodness. Do believe this. And since there were so few teams playing what I remember about that night was marrying Gabar tweeting and crystal Tang tweeting and guys are like welcome to our beer league. That was what made that night so special with all the NHL watching the game and saying oh my God. Not only did you think math is going to be great because he scored four goals, but we interviewed him post-game Christine Simpson was working that game. And first of all we interviewed someone from the losing team, which almost never happens and be he was mad 'cause his check. Scored the overtime winner for auto. So I mean, how can you go away from that one who made those moments as well mom? Yeah. The shots. Mom was outstanding. In that one. I'm always fascinated with the the Cup of coffee player the one game guy dean Morton. Yup. K and each official Blair, Maxine, I think was a one year guy. But here's the thing about dean Morton in his one game up scored a goal, and then never played in the NHL again where they do wrong gets his one call up scores a goal, and that's it. That'd be another debut that I would just go reads book candies. Arab ember some little tell me Gord wobble or something like that. And he played on hockey night in Canada game on a Saturday night between Calgary and Montreal. And it was on for some reason in Toronto and he had like a goal and assist. Scored a beautiful goal. And he played two games. Never heard from again. Someone's gonna tell me what has but I don't I remember that guy nor thinking guys a star. You know is a good question for Ken read then too because he did the book about players that people that only had one game in the NHL Cup of coffee. I'm curious not just who played the one game. But who played the fewest minutes. No who played the fewest seconds in the NHL. Find me that guy who played like, two seconds. Now, the the the backup goal came on to clean up for five seconds or the tough guy came on and fought two seconds into his shift. And that was it that was his only game in the NHL has only minute slash seconds. Like giving Ken read some home. Why not okay from Silas K? Do you ever see time where the Swedish league could have a TV presence in North America? Hardcore would watch I would watch you would watch. Could you see it? I think it's probably more likely on. I don't see why not. But you gotta think is probably more online than anything else. Right. You can watch those games now online. I don't know why like a network would necessarily pick those up now because the younger generation we they stream everything right? Yeah. So you can probably get it with North American commentary though. Oh, well, I don't know. That's a good one. I'd watch force. Force set up a studio. We problem with that is Matt March from play produces those games. And it's always a big food budget when he's around. Matthew, scott. Is there a chance all of this question? Is there a chance that Steve is Ramin wins GM of the year of Tampa has a season. Everyone is predicting even though he's not the GM anymore. I love it. I know why this questions there because Jeff loves the chaos aspect of it. I have an example. I wanna bring up to I think, that's I say, no. But I still think it's hilarious two thousand and ten Chicago. Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup. Yup. Fantastic time since nineteen sixty one in the GM of the year voting and other GM's vote for this award one GM voted for Dale talent. I'm not surprised there would be that. I don't know that. I don't know who it was. But one Don Maloney one at that year, running the then Phoenix Arizona coyotes, but one person voted for someone who wasn't the GM of the Stanley Cup winning team. I know for coach the year, which voted by the Broadcasters Association. I don't have a vote with them. But I know in the past it's been asked internally if you could vote for an assistant coach, I believe, Sean Burke was one of the guys who came up when you great job with Elliot Bruce gal. Arizona or maybe was Devon Dugue. Nick. I know that's come up before can you vote for an assistant coach, but it's never really gained any traction. I would love it. If is about why this you have to come on Elliot's rolling as is seen. Okay. Representing up nonsense. Imagery. You just want a good story or media. Like, yeah. Come on stories that would be a fascinating one final thought on the week from Elliot Friedman. Takeaway from all star game thought on trades speculation of what's next in the NHL kind word. I really liked what Matthews did L Marlow. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a reason that Matthew's eventual capita the Toronto Maple leaves because he would think of doing and do something like that. My takeaway is I think we're really about ten days away from things heating up. I think the conversation is starting to pick up. But I think once those three guys stone do Shane and paren- will parents made his attentions known. But once Columbus decides what to do. And once those other two guys in Ottawa decide what to do. That's when I think things will really start to get crazy moving from the back burner to the front burner. Trade deadline approaches February the twenty fifth I wanna thank Ricard Grunberg for stopping by the podcast. That was a lot of fun. Expect to hear from him again on this podcast. Hopefully, sooner than later as always wanna thank our producer Amil Delic for keeping us on track here and making the podcast down tastes the end. We are closing out with the band from Reckitt, Vic Iceland. Russel's sprouts international B S, I as Amel those the pumps in the background. Yeah. Making this day. But all right. This is a personal favorite. This is a key. Oh, Leif that I get it. Right. Nice. You weekend. Thanks for listening to thirty one thoughts the podcast.

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All-Star Recap

All The Kings Men

39:52 min | 1 year ago

All-Star Recap

"One of four. That doesn't get the juices flowing adrenaline pumping not cuffs on the clubs. Aw You're listening to all the king's men the official podcast of the La Kings led back over for to walk long now by a hurdle and then culpa Dr Side of that patch already heard all scars. Now here's your host Jesse Cohen. Welcome backing fans. I am Jesse Cohn. This is all the king's men all star weekend is done. But before we focus in on the rest of the season Robin Dutton and I are going. Take One last look at the festivities in Saint Louis and Ontario a slight warning. This episode ends a bitter abruptly. There was meant to be another ten or fifteen minutes but we had to guess S. calling in and frankly I'm still working on making it sound like something you'd want to listen to so apologies for that and apologies to our mystery guests. Hopefully we'll have that audio for you soon in the meantime. And here's a look back at the all star weekend the Nhl all-star break is over as is the Ahl all-star. We're GONNA take a quick look back before for we take a quick look forward joining me today Robin Dutton. How're you doing today? Robin are you Jesse. Maximum thank you before we get into all of the hockey stuff. It's rare take a moment to talk about basketball but I think it would be impossible for us not to address the events of this weekend. Yeah very sad. Shocking News in the city of Los Angeles in the entire tire world is grieving right now. The loss of Kobe Bryant Such an iconic person. I think he touched so many lives. just shows you the reach that we have in this world. A lot of people who've never been matt him are feeling that that law so The group of the King Staff went over the Lakers practice facility yesterday which is just a block over more offices and they had a beautiful memorial morial outside which is really moving emotional and nor heart just goes out to Vanessa and their children and all the families involved. I generally am uncomfortable. Double with hero worship in all of its forms which puts me in an odd position covering a sport. That handles most of its marketing through. Air Worship I'm not a huge Laker fan but if basketball was to be played and a championship had to be awarded. I would obviously always prefer it. Go to the Lakers and it would. It'd be impossible to live in l.. A. For any amount of time and not be aware of Kobe Bryant and the impact the add on the fan base so for anybody grieving. You know we feel for you. Obviously obviously and it's a tragedy that nine people their lives so as many people said hug your kids appreciate the time you've got is absolutely take the short just again our condolences our love and our prayers go to everyone involved while said no good way to do this. But we're going to transition into the all star game we earn. Look back on it. We're GONNA say what we'd like what we liked. Sorry what we might change. We're going to talk about the women's event and And have reactions agianst shooting stars so first things first. Let's talk about what we liked from just from the skills contest. Yeah I mean I think Saint Louis did such a great job with this event Kobe having three assists in the Pacific Division winning I mean successful around. I love seeing Leyla Anderson announcing the Saint Louis Blues. I thought that was pretty fun. She has has a great career in announcer. Should wants it boy. She is impressive I love seeing Thomas. Hurdle coach are have some chemistry out. There I think Kobe gave him an assist on his goal. And just how they incorporated Al macinnis and so many other legends into the play. I thought it was pretty funny. I did enjoy you know. They had chock that hall. They had Brennan for Dirk. Oh that a couple of I can't remember if there were other layers that former players that game played role I would have liked. You know some of those things things. Where if you if? I didn't know that that was going to happen. It never would have occurred to me to do it but once it happened I was like oh well you know. Let Bernie take a couple of shots but I thought the with with With chuck going up there with his two kids I thought that was very nice. you know Brett Hull going I think it was during the shooting stars right within. They haven't come out there to take this off. I mean it's moments like that where you can't plan. I'm for the All Star game to be in the building of the reigning Stanley Cup champion now so very nice that things come all. This story lines came together. I think Thou's pretty special. I mean just seeing the as much as flames fans WANNA hate the family seeing all three of them together and seeing the photos from when they were at their dads all star game like. That's pretty special. Yeah at the show is like hockey transcends I. I always appreciate when you have an opportunity for these players to have genuinely human moments comments. You mentioned the Bieber mask. I have a question for you. Somebody who works in in the business ops side of the hockey world. When I saw the Bieber thing my first thought wasn't I tweeted out congrats to the marketing person who works for the sharks? That had that idea. Yeah as I. Don't I just refuse to believe that. Tomas hurdle had that idea himself so I honestly think this may even come from Bennington so beaver and ham had been going back and forth on twitter. You know making a bad about if he were could score on on him and whatnot and I think the winner will donate some money to charity. Hopefully that set up in the future by. I think I don't know it could have been behind the goal will. We'll see if it comes out but I believe that more no disrespect to hurdle but I just remember when Kessler took his kid out and then a few rounds later I can't remember who it was grabbed. Johnny the drought and pretended moments. Like that I'm like okay. That was funny but it doesn't require a prop or planning when a guy has the mat like there's no other. Tomas Hurdle took time out of his life now he wasn't at staples right now staples center but in actual which. I don't even know if they have those anymore. The hostile because we're S- totally someone definitely is is helping out there but I think it just helps grow the game. It's on a wider level of music fans and just me birth canal. You know. Turn their attention to the all star skills competition neighbors the believers. So now we're going to get into what we change and and I don't want to dwell too much on planes or whatever but I have a crazy. I fixed the All Star game or not over doing so anything you would tape before we get into my insanity. I didn't like the accuracy competition that digital. So yeah I think. A lot of people had problems with that thinking and technical technical issues they had to bring out new. I thought that was stunned for a second. Like ooh and net but No I mean there's something satisfying about seeing those smash in real life. So Yeah Yeah. That's something this year that I thought we come back to the older method. Otherwise you mean. We'll get into the shooting stars later but now the electronic display was a perfect perfect example of over things and I'll go a step further the boards. There's a lot of conversation about this on Social Media The digital digital boards there. I don't know what the exact Termez they're not normal. No and as somebody pointed out it's fine I suppose if you WANNA have a goal animation happening behind distracting distracting. Whatever but that's fine? It's two thousand twenty and kids with their you know iphones or whatever but they cut away from the shot with the with the animation and it almost instant. So you're not even really no. It's not purposeful. Yeah I know I was watching with the puck tracking layer talking systems. And it's just distracting to me personally. Though I hate them I was a nice way but yeah I'm not how I will as soon as the puck drifted behind one of the nameplates as like okay. I don't out yeah I'm done I don't need need it and I saw the puck. There's a very subtle trail option that they have now need that either now and wasn't planning on volume but now I'm going to. I don't care if this is elitist or arrogant. But if you if you if we're GONNA I WANNA go a path where we dumped the game down to its lowest possible form in an attempt to appeal to hypothetical viewers who may or may not even like what. Oh you're trying then I will eventually stop watching. I think that Matthew can reuse but not at the All star these are the best players in the world you will know who they are alright or watching most of the time on either our laptops our. TV's like you can see the puck. This is used. Maybe if you're on a mobile device or even if you're playing in a game where you don't know many of the players about the trail behind the pox everglades highlights fine but make it any of you ever go to the point where where it's like a closed captioning option where you can turn it on or off. It'd be great fine but I. I don't want it strongly all right. So here's my fix for for the All Star game. I think it's real simple and I don't think it's I don't think it's terrible. Don't change the event maybe WANNA WANNA change the event. That's fine but the purpose is it doesn't matter if you do or you don't treating it like Oscar Bingo. I don't watch all the movies his opinions on all of the races. But I have a friend who hosts an Oscar party there's Bingo cards and fill out the BINGO card and you find yourself rooting for events to happen. During the telecast you ordinarily wouldn't care about the NHL every postseason has a bracket that everybody fills out and within four games. Everybody's is usually wrong. Because there's some about amount of upsets that causes people not to pay attention to it. But in a singular event like an all star game. I don't it doesn't necessarily have to be a BINGO card. It could be a fantasy card could be. I don't know but you pick pick what team finishes with. How many wins in the event? And and then you pick points or events you say like okay if somebody scores a Michigan style across goal. That's worth five points if somebody goes between the legs exits two points if the puck touches three different guys sticks within three seconds of going in the net. That's the point of a goal. He gets an assist. That's a point yet. PEOPLE TO SIGN UP UP PARTNER WITH YAHOO OR ESPN or one of these companies. Work it into the broadcast. So that the broadcasters no which events people have chosen that are trending are possible and have feedback down to the players on the ice. So if it's the second period of the first game and and it's sixty two Atlantic over the Pacific what if Connor mcdavid scores a hat trick. It's worth so many points or if Jack Eichel you know wins the game or wins. MVP or something. I think that might actually have an opportunity to get the players involved. Not Take Care in a grander scheme or give full hockey game effort. But he just moments to try and stop somebody to try and help somebody to try and accomplish zivie goals within within the format of the game which doesn't change. They might laugh. They might joke. They might get behind. You know if some crazy fan decided that they think that Komo hurdle getting ten points over the course of the two games that he could play would be the difference between that fan winning or not winning. I don't like I said I think you might actually inspire moments of caring from the from the players and you would involve the fans. You don't change the format you change how it's presented the fans tonight. This pains me to say but I got back home. Fleet agree with you and I love that idea. I think it to Even if you're having a watch party and their families out there you know you're you're engaged with each other it's interactive I think you have all like you said all the regular things. You have. People winning competitions shins or winning the game and then those secret trick shot bonus points or having take officers and you see the blue stirs things like that they might happen. Might not happen but I actually have loved that idea the more I was thinking about it the more because I was talking to people at the age will all serve in about it last night and the more I started coming up with bonkers ideas like let's say there's a golden stick to stakes lefty and righty per team. And they just you can switch sticks in the middle of a shift you can switched on the ice but if you score with that stick it's worth to. I mean it doesn't yeah whatever you can come up with all sorts of insane ideas. Yeah you can definitely tell I think some of the guys who are taking it easy easy and our debt funding this adds that kind of extra component without demanding like I said a full sixty minute by of playing defense and everything but again there might be these little moments where you can capture yet anyway. Just a thought. Did you hear what hosting on the bench about a red stick. Because I've never seen a guy he's player with that and I think hurdle over there and I saw Gretzky on the bench talking about Was it Queen Hughes. Yeah thing that young lads a defenseman Eric. All right first of all why is Wayne Gretzky. Talk like he's you know from the twenty nine hundred twenty six wayne Gretzky now. It's just I was just unexpected For a guy like that anyway. Let's get into the shooting stars reaction. I felt it has potentially needs tweaking totally but I thought it had potential Tuchel. Yeah I mean I think the one thing a lot of people said is why is the largest target worth the most points canes hidden Sony twos and if those were tents ends you'd have won it so I think that was a little confusing. It's harder than it looks. I mean the guy's got a couple test runs the day before the morning of and you know it's not that intuitive there's not many times version from that angle so I think you could tell I think it was a riley kept going back for more. The they were a little frustrated with it but it seem to be fun. There was one shot that landed in the arch allies around the first one but but you know an arc parked in side on the side. Yeah I was like just give it to him. Come on so somebody's Abacha be worth twice as much because the trick shot trying to replicate that shower would be impossible. I know I I need so many opportunities seven or went out like we could have cut down. I think when this is why I think my Bingo idea is it's helpful because even in the skills contest to do to two different versions of the same thing so much downtime in between some of these events and that ultimately is what I think needs to be fixed on some of them right harshad is what it is. The fastest skater is what it is. But that's where we run into the breakaway challenge. It's just so long and in the other guys are just hanging out and so I don't know figure a way to get the fans involved. I don't know what you would do with shooting stars Devoted a ton of thought to it yet but the bigger targets need to be worthless blast. Yeah and I would honestly say more goofy things like the Ark totally her arch. I guess Has the the the twos and the forest they had set up. Yeah and nobody was aiming for them. So I don't know if you WANNA put honestly like it's such a dumb trick but putting the faces of other players on the targets in the the accuracy thing made it exponentially more interesting. Maybe half in half players. I don't know I don't know but I thought I I liked. I liked how outside of the box. It was like they were willing to try something completely crazy. Yeah when you're reading it you're like WHOA. This is not yeah. I think always having something new exciting. Like that's great. I I liked it. So let's get into the actual games Pacific wins again other than the fact that Copa cars involved after we care not really Sad to say it is I think it was fun to see at the C. Dry Seidel and Chuck Nice giving Gogol. That was pretty interesting. It hadn't even occurred to me as I was watching it but then I saw the replay and and somebody on twitter pointed out that they even look at them or like celebrate and just then they both. I think chuck went to the veterinary. Both had you know little grin on their roses. You Know He. He had an interview where he said. We're all just having fun here. You know all of its forgotten. How much of that's true? Because I know they've got this Wednesday circle on their calendar for when they meet up again. But I think it's fun to see I know Thomas Hurdle and Copay tar were seated next to each other in the locker room and they developed in chemistry and and Gosh no each other veteran in hurdle is saying like for seven years. We paid each other. But now we're buddies now hanging out so I think just for that part of these players interact who normally I mean. It's it's worth breath. It's financing the coaches TERP. Each Other and get involved. Two's pretty funny. There's not a lot of ducks or sharks over the years that I would have liked to have seen on the king's uh-huh Salani is one of them. Oh Yeah Tomas Hurdles and other. There's a tiny part of me. That would always get jealous when he would have. I can't remember his quote hockey. Must always that'd be fun or something like that. Yeah and you'd see the charger fan base react and they love him and he's lovable absolutely. I think Kobe might have gone and being like I'm not not give this guy a chance. And then as soon as he kind of cracks a smile opens his mouth. It's pretty hard not to love him and You know get along with him ultimately a Again the Pacific wins. It's fine if they're going to do this. Format and somebody has to win. I prefer the Pacific. Yeah whatever moving moving onto the Ahl all-star Game Oli. I'M NOT GONNA say I'm going to go backwards. I WanNa talk about the the All Star Game Format. And then we'll talk about stills this company it's entirely too much I love the h. l. l. what has become. I love talking everybody who works for it. But it was six three Andrea Games in a row and then a championship game. Not It's insanity it's it's just too much with anything that they I mean. Even the skills competition. It's there's so much going on pieces flying everywhere I mean it's it you just kinda sign up for that so I wouldn't expect anything less but I know it's hard to follow any so there were six games six games is that right yeah. Six Games three of them involving the Pacific and the other three. I just watch one and then I just had to excuse myself after the NHL backed back. It's just too much you and I both and I understand why it can't can't be both events in the same city because you wanna have the H. L. GonNa reward the fans who are award the organizations that means the buildings etc.. But I just felt like on a Monday night to have people out from seven to ten to watch endless meaningless three on three little to lots of big ask about the skills contest. I'm really only going to talk about one part of it. I'm okay let's get to it. I never thought that I would have an emotional reaction to watching a hockey player. Shoot a puck into an empty net with no real stakes. Not I've seen it a million times. It's so funny this quote that I saw online. It's like Rubber Biscuit go into net me feel good. How Oh simple it is? That's about it there. Were a couple of guys you took shots. And they were in the low nineties mid nineties and I I analysts have felt bad for them. Because obviously they're young and they're doing their dream. What everybody saw? Ross knock great. Yeah they didn't sign like presumably. They didn't come to this event looking in this contest. They're put into nowadays people volleyball then. Firkh steps up and the other thing I thought was well. Maybe the maybe the equipment Whitman might not be up to snuff compared to what they have in the NHL is also. What are these guys ninety eight but it's registering as ninety five? Who knows then for accepts his his first shot is like one hundred four point seven or something? Well Yeah and you go okay while the equipment works and then I even asked him after the Game mm-hmm when he felt when in the process of shooting did he know that it was solid shot And then he hits it's one nine point two and I before the number even popped up on the thing I I mean I had a little legitimate emotional as holy like you said that word. Unbelievable yeah rip it. Yeah Yeah IT'S A. I was listening to him. Talk to you after the Emini said you know the first one has just try not to break my stick nick. I didn't want to miss the PUCK. You know he was so Sweden genuine and you just wanted to get on net and so then I think the second one he was like all right. There's nothing to lose here let's just go and Holy beat Zano Charles Record of one hundred eight point eight which was set in two thousand twelve which is both a new H. L. and NHL Record. I think just so cool seeing all the guys completely swarm him. Everyone's excited they know they've witnessed something cool and just really happy for him. Couldn't have happened to a better guy talking to him afterwards right and it's like is it rubber rubber Puckett. I feel good but you could see how happy he was. I mean it was his absurd read. There's a group of US standing around going with a conversation essentially is wow you shot. The puck really hard. Yes I did. That's it he's beaming yet does great at his little crystal trophy for it and it was and so silly but it really wasn't oppressive and it was. I mean all well you know everybody standing around and all rooms in between locker rooms afterwards and everybody's you shaking her head man. That was not unbelievable. Yeah I think it goes back to our appoint last week of saying if they selected the allstars based on an H.. All based on the skills we'd really see everyone's highlights come to surface one more thing that I would change. I wanted him to have a third shot. One of one or nine point. Do I say like let him keep going doing until he until at depths right maybe he maybe the next one hundred ten hanging out and if it's not then okay you back yeah broker but let them just let them go for for why not I asked and he said he would have liked to third opportunity. Yeah well I mean I feel pretty comfortable when I when I I like. I just wished to have one more. Try couldn't get one of ten right. It's hit or miss. Maybe it was just a perfect show. And that's all it is I. I would've liked to go on top people joining us now to talk about the women's event dominy dea played collegiate hockey. I did I did now Before I ask you a ask as long stupid question that I'm GonNa shut up and get out of the way and let you you guys have your thoughts introduction. I thought I I'm done with that format of all the players lineup on the Blue Line. And then the cameraman takes one step to the left. They say the name. The person gives a week wave and the camera and takes on step to the left. Says the person's name because we wave but particularly in this this case where we don't really know all of the players we know Hillary night we know I'm GonNa try and pronounce last name but one of the twins morale. Yes thank you there was there there. We know a couple of names from the Olympics. Yeah from promotion. But we don't know the full roster I felt like they could have given a better job ob of introducing these women and maybe talking about why the event was even part of the weekend in the first place. I mean it's it's all finding good to pay lip service to to diversity in the game is for everyone and opening the doors but it didn't feel like they were actually trying to me and I found that annoying the We'll first off. I think it meant so much to the entire women's hockey community that it was happening. Not Though women were able to participate not not just skills but in actual game and As many as Were able to play nine each side which was awesome And that it was the US and Canada which was so cool Obviously like it would be awesome if it was more of like a world competition too but I get it was such a such a rivalry that it was so great to see. See them play I kind of agree like being born and bred in the women's hockey world like I know all these names but I can understand how NHL Community really hasn't been introduced to them much and it would have been cool to get some more background. In F- I do agree. It felt a little rushed. I understand the the format of the All Star game. You know it was great to even get twenty minutes ten ten minute periods but I do agree with you there. The interest a little rushed I just one of the things that I've learned growing up is growing up. Don't believe what people say. Believe what they do and and to me this felt like pandering ants on the one hand you get all the benefits of the pander right you get exposure you get these women's faces faces in the media you get the the you know you got all the positives but it also just didn't feel like they actually actually cared or were trying very hard beyond sort of like. Hey Look we've got girls and I don't enjoy being pandered to There was an issue with the I. Guess both teams share the same locker room like to me. That's the kind of thing where you go. How difficult would it have been just put a little bit of pre-production on introducing them or making sure that they had all the listen like I? I didn't have bad feelings about this after I washed like it was. I felt how proud I felt so You know touch that all especially just thinking about I coach sometimes for our alliance team. Our girls team here twitter sportscenter and all the little girls were so excited to watch the All Star game like they could see you know themselves there one day and that's the first time as a women's hockey player that you're kind of fully represented there. You're but the bathroom situation really bothered me. The fact that both teams had assured locker room. These teams are like ultimate rivals. And just because they're girls doesn't mean they don't have the same feelings of rivalry that the men do and the men would have never shirt locker that would be unheard of. I mean it's different because obviously these you know. Kobe tires playing next to his rivals on the other Pacific teams. But that's different this is that's it's more of an all star game this was like us Canada and you know the game ends in US lost in. You're going back in the locker room. And you're in the same walker as candidates celebrating. And then I'm like. Do you share hairdryer. Like what's the situation. Is You know a lot of women. I played college hockey at Trinity College in Connecticut. Kidding we we traveled all over New England and a lot of the locker rooms. We use. Excuse me a Lotta. The locker rooms were used were. Showers are just like an open room. And you're just is kind of their with your team and I can't imagine with other team it just seems so weird And getting interviewed after and I know they mentioned the broadcast that each team was able well to have their private moments. pre-game to talk to their coaches and everything but that part was this for the looking at the whole event that the locker room situation was the only part that really left a bad taste my mouth a little bit but in general I I was really excited that this was a part of the skills competition and I I think it can only be improved crew from here so we did what we liked what we change about the rest of the events. Yeah what did we like about the women's three on three. I love that it was. US and Canada. I think especially with all star game being in North America and being about NHL. North American Hockey League. I thought that made the most sense. I'm so I liked. I felt like the if felt rushed to ten minute. Running time is it's quick. Goes by quick but they were going going all out like the the amount of speed they had and Exciting goals in the bullies bulls. School is really stood on their heads. Thought But I think you do three periods from time if you'RE GONNA if you're gonNA rush it I think we could really see some sort of actual women's All Star game as a part of if it's before the Men's game the next day or have it built out to the game and then have them in the skills competition like handle coin in fastest skater like have each Player have a couple of women's players in east competition. That'd be awesome but get letting them play a full on game would be really cool. Robin and I talked last week about inviting the players who are best at each skill regardless of whether or not they're all stars so presumably guys were faster than the assembled players. Here's but they're not all star so they don't get to participate skater. Presumably there are people with harder harder. Shots that are not all-stars. I would love to see for example Kennel of doing during the fastest skater. There's gotta be some layers within the accuracy. Something like maybe not the hardest shot but the accuracy you know shooting stars obviously Debated I mean there's gotta be like I said for me. It's just I heard one of the combined I heard was They didn't appreciate the participation. Because it's the NHL L. All-star game and they're all for diversity and offering inclusivity by this is an NHL event is sort of my eyes and go like it's not an NHL event it's an actual commercial and there's tons of people show NHL commercials that aren't Nhl players so yeah it's a TV show. Yeah and if you're going to have them they're like I said have they're do it like commit. Don't do this sort of. I don't know if yeah I I really liked Kendall Coyne being miked up for the or that was cool but she was skating around his chatting and I was like wow I would really be out of breath. She casual but that was cool. I kind of wish we got more of that more behind the scenes like these girls have such personalities. It was funny one. We were talking with other kings staff during the game in. Someone asked why the girls girls were standing the whole time which I get that question. A Lot The number two question about women's hockey or hockey general I get. I'm sure you guys get the same. As how do people know when to change enj- oh on the landline changes and then for women's hockey particularly like why's everyone standing and it's funny like I never thought about it until I started working here but You always stand. I would always stand on the bench organ for most of it ruined just because you're so excited they had like especially for three hundred. You GotTA change quickly. A lot of these girls are pretty small. I'm fortunate that I'm really tall. Hopping over the boards is not the big of a deal a lot all of these girls. You gotTa jump up there. A lot of them are like five three five four so going from sitting and then jumping over the boards it's tie so a lot of them Stanford what reason and then just to like. It's easier to standing up straight a lot of times. You see guys on the bench. And they're all crunched over but I thought that was interesting too. I really thought about that. I I never really thought about that either but now the ash that's going to live life just standing on the bench. Yeah sounds like a nightmare. There were two things that said it has me statically and you explained one of them to me. The first one was I did them wearing cages. Yeah bogged Now there's probably insurance and legal reasons that they have to do it during the game. But you explained at least during the introductions that there's a a personal preference I don't know in in college for our introductions deductions wherever we want. Both teams would have no helmets on and your helmets would be lined up on the bench And then when you start the game put your helmet on but oh you need depending on you know how long your hair's review of a headband. Or whatever like some girls preferred to keep their helmets on during intro so that they can they do what they gotta do with their hair I don't know how much time they had. I don't know if it was a personal preference but I really I wish they showed their faces more without the cages. It's tough to see with cages and It's just cool to see all these girls and really get to know like. Oh that's that's in. The KESSEL is recognizing their faces. And it's hard with cages. It is not a lot of them. Were the bubble at least one. Yeah it's probably the bubble people who may not know full plastic plastic face yield rather than the kate. Yeah et message I say in my experience like maybe twenty five percent of girls where the bubble as we call it Ama- who we work with. She played at Trinity. Also She she's fewer bubble and she she's always worn it. I prefer the cage but I don't know I've never the differences between the men's game in the girls in the women's game that's always bothered me is checking. I always wanted to have checking. I always wanted our game to exactly the same But but as far as I know cage I like having a cage I play men's league now and I'm the only girl and Song only one. That was a full cage pretty much and I still. I Dunno just seems so silly especially in men's league like these guys are wearing no shield. Would you be allowed to take the cage off if there's rafts or anything but yeah I just like you get you get to the face of money to pay dental and like I don't I don't want to mess this up. Yeah I mean I I agree at the beginning. It would have been cool to see their helmets often like at a little bit more personality. The game but I- every girl like some some almost everyone cage is learned to see through. I don't I can see now wearing glasses. Filtered up I felt the not that it's even anything close but when the put the nets up yeah whatever. Twenty years ago I was one of those people. They ruined my in two days later. The second issue and whatever this is total unique to the event but when they had all the players from both from all four divisions standing on the blue lines for the anthems and then they have the women out there. All the guys were in their teens. Jerseys he's so you had all of this color mall this pageantry all the fans in the stands you know wearing jerseys. They want and the women were in black and white. Yeah it wouldn't come up with. I was surprised by that. I thought they were GONNA go more. US Canada heavy a little bit. Or you know something. I liked jerseys. I just thought they were Nice. And clean and I liked the colors they used. Because I'm more of like a simple kind of person but I agree. There was there wasn't a lot of like it's different than the men's game in that they were representing their countries for that and they. We didn't really get to show that with the uniform. I I'm I mean it's tough because we all work for the kings right black and white forever but I'm really tired of black and white. The League events now got us so anyway but I wanNA thank you for joining us. Yeah this is great. I hopefully will talk. So that's the Nhl all-star break in the Ahl all-star break done move forward Lozad have been called to the Kings so we assume that Lozad Backing lineup sounds like drew. Doughty will not be in the lineup yet. He'll be out tomorrow for the game bomber bomber but hopefully he'll be back process matchup Against the years on a coyotes in the ducks on Saturday Any thoughts on spring. On you I apologize. Any thoughts on his quotes quotes the athletic. which ones you're talking about? At least the Delman had an interview with him where he expressed his disappointment. At how seasons. Yes Oh yes UH-HUH I mean. He's frustrated he signed a huge contract. He is such a competitive guy and he wants to win and I think last year it was like all right. We need it turns surround. Now we've got a new coach more putting all those things in place but it's not something that happens overnight and I think he's just kind of feeling that impatience of he wants to move back in Safa League and he is just now struggling and trying to lead this team You gotta be hard. There was an interview interview. May Not be the right word. But two years ago when Dustin Brown got up on stage at the state of the Union State of the franchise at event any talked about learning in his career to focus less on the outcome and more on the process and it it struck me as an incredibly mature realization and moment for him and I am hoping that we see the same realization structured out as drew. Doughty has in one of my all time. Favorite Kings Watch I you know. Somebody tweeted out that the Air Carlson got his six hundred 's career point and I was compelled point out that he's a minus forty six in his career in that comes exclusively from loving dowdy. I don't care about hair Carl's career other than the Berry. I have complete and totally rational adoration for the career of doughty and yet I am very I'm not comfortable Obviously last season was a disaster for everybody. This season seems to be a struggle for him from my perspective. Anyway as well and I've heard of excuses in arguments the supporting cast isn't isn't there and it's a new system etcetera etcetera etcetera. And yet I look back at his numbers and I see a guy who played for different coaches. Now I WANNA same Murray Sutter Stevens Jordan. And that doesn't count as a tour Chetty in interim coach and he's never had an elite partner. I mean people he's partnered with are the kind of people fan bases complain about on twitter. Dirk Eric for raid mcnabb. Even though I thought it was a perfect partner for even Jake Muhsin who who is an all star and a and a World Cup player Erin all of that and last season in this season his numbers just don't support the idea that he's the same player and I don't know if that is I don't know what it's about but it's concerning. Yeah I mean in the article. He said it's been stressful and depressing. Sometimes you gotta sit back and realize you don't have the team you once had so I think he's. He's just going back to the drawing board and figuring out how he can be a leader on this team and what the next year's look for him.

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06-24-19 NHL Entry Draft Show REPLAY

All The Kings Men

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06-24-19 NHL Entry Draft Show REPLAY

"Now from your home for the LA kings, a look at the NHL draft and how it impacts, your LA kings. This is LA kings draft cover. Here's Jesse co rob render, and gave Joseph. It is a weekend that can affect the fortunes of a franchise for years to come two days were months, even years of work in scouting, come to fruition with the announcement of all the new players who will be joining an organization injecting youth, exuberance, desire, and a skill set that will provide the franchise with hopefully some good luck going forward to make runs at the Stanley Cup. It is the two thousand nineteen NHL draft. Welcome everybody to the all the king's men live NHL drafts special. I'm rob Brenner going to be joined in a moment by Jesse Cohen. Dave Joseph, if you were not with us on draft lottery night, which was our last live, broadcast the first that we have done in this series, which we hope to continue for many years to come. Welcome, and thanks for joining us on this Saturday. This is the draft special, of course, draft town going right now in Vancouver. They are in the second round the first round happened yesterday on Friday. We're going to recap everything that happened yesterday and talk about the picks that have happened so far. Today, also try to keep you updated on stuff as we watch the television with you to try to see who the kings are selecting and all the trades that are being made it's been a very active day up in Vancouver, not just for the kings, but for everybody around the NHL, and we're also going to be taking your phone calls along the way. So get them in at eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. Again, that number eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. You can also tweet at us. We love Twitter at king's men podcast is the best way to do it hit me up on my account at Robert brendor is perfectly fine as well. And we'll try to answer your questions and take those over the air that way as well. So guys, first of all, hi, how are you? We were all at the king's party last night, which we had in downtown LA. And by the way, great job by the staff members of the LA kings to put that thing together when a hot party, it was a little warm. Just a little warm scorching hot party, lots of people showed up, and that's a good thing, which is added to the heat downstairs. But a great venue and a nice event and great Tavil the players turn out that showed up and all the different events that were going on while we were there. So it was really a special night. So we're a little bit tired, but we're gonna get through it, obviously because all the excitement that's going on up in Vancouver. Let's go to the big stuff. Get the formalities out of the way go to what happened yesterday. The kings picking number five overall. They wind up with Alex Turcott a little bit of a surprise that he actually fell to five, lots of projections had them going number three to Chicago, but the kings wind up with Alex Turcott and their lab. Jesse Cohen, your initial impressions of the selection. I had heard so many people say that Kirby doc or bone Byrom. We're going to be the player taken or Dylan cousins, or something like that. Alex Turcott never entered into never really entered in the conversation as a potential pick. So, my, my first reaction was, oh, the kids from Illinois and Chicago didn't take him. You know what's that all about? But then our minded myself, these are all eighteen year old kids, and you have no idea, why any team does anything. And maybe Chicago just decided they wanted the six foot five kid who knows the more you learn about this kid, the, the better I felt about the pick and the reality is it didn't matter who they were gonna take we were gonna show up this morning and say, I love it. This is a solid pick kids. Again, doesn't matter. We were not following these kids that closely in their junior careers. So, like I said, the more you learn about him, the more you read about him, the more interviews, I watched when I. Got home, the better and better and better, I felt about this kid and we'll get into this in a later with this sort of broad view of what the kings were doing. But I loved the fact that all this talk about, you gotta get faster. You gotta get more skill in the lineup. You've gotta get it doesn't matter if the kids are big anymore. You know, all this talk and the first guy, they take is described as sandpaper and silk, and, you know, he's an agitator and he goes to the right places on the ice all the sort of really easy rhetoric that I've been sort of bristling at for the last year, two years. Right. Out the window with the kings. I two picks they got a kid who's leader. They got a kid, who's got is not afraid to get hurt like sandpaper and silk, because just such a great. I mean, if that's not a king's t shirt and the next two years, somebody's not doing their job. You're not doing your well, right? Live. Right. One of the nine players from the United States taken in the first round yesterday. And one of eight that played for their development developmental program, which is a record one team eight players all taken in the first round, really impressive stuff. So obviously he's playing with a special group of players around him. But there's no question in reading all the different scouting reports about Alex Turk, Dave that he was one of the guys that was at the head of that group. Yeah. I'm sure he's on the list. You know, you've got your top five list of guys, who you're looking for should say, kids. Right. Because their kids at this point, we're looking at this group of kids. Doc goes off the list cross him off a lot of people thought Boeing Byrom was going to be available for the kings of five cross him off the list. He goes to Colorado. And then you say, well, who's left, not really a bad choice, right? In Alex Turcott here you go and from everything that I've gathered as well. And I think it was Nelson Emerson from the kings player development group. He said, Alex Turcott will. Will get you the puck. He'll get it to you at the right time, and he'll get it to you at the right speed which is everything you're looking for. So if you're looking for a playmaking center, you're looking for a guy who can create you're looking for a guy who isn't going to be afraid to go to those difficult spots like Jesse was saying, this is a fantastic pick. And you can have as many centers, you can't be deep enough at center, I think this is a huge pick for the kings to have this. Now, I would have said that about Boeing Byrom. I have said that about it doc. I don't think you can go wrong with any of these guys. But, like Jesse was saying at this point their kids and we didn't know a whole lot about them from our standpoint coming into this. But the people who did the people in the scouting department of people in the front office, did their homework. So they know they're getting a great player, number five, and Alex Turk. I like to pick, I think it was consensus, the top five not necessarily in the order, three four and five. Win number one and two were much across the board. Jack Hughes goes to the devils cap Okaka one's going to the New York Rangers. Everybody thought universally that that was what was going to happen. And that's how it played out. Three four and five. It looked like just about any of those guys could have fallen anywhere, right? Yeah. Nobody had a specific feel for it. And if you're the king sitting there at five, and I know that thoughts, especially on draft lottery night when the kings didn't wind up with one and two were all depression and sadness. And now my goodness, we didn't get the guys, we wanted we're now going to pick number five it's not gonna be as great. Well, you have to look at it a different way. This is one of the deepest drafts in years, according to anybody that looks at this on a regular basis, all the prognosticators all the scouts all the people that look at the guys that are gonna get picked in these upcoming drafts. This draft and neck strap next year are supposed to be two of the deepest in many, many years. So picking number five does not mean by any means and really in any draft that you're gonna wind up with player who's that much of a drop off from number one or number two. We'll see how things play out. You never know who works out. You never know who doesn't but I think the kings probably would have been very happy with any of those three players that went three four or five, and they wind up. With a guy who has said at the top a lot of people thought would go number three. That's not that bad. So a good pick for them. I think with Alcott he was one of two players, by the way that the kings picked in the first round yesterday to buy Bjorn fought was the other player. We're gonna talk quite a bit about him as well. Sounds like both of these guys, Jesse not going to be NHL ready necessarily this upcoming season. Bjorn Fahd, especially is going to return to Sweden. It sounds like play for the team that he played for last year. Turcott is committed to the university of Wisconsin that obviously doesn't play into things. I don't think too much for the kings. They're looking for future not necessarily right now with this player. Yeah. I'm I mean, I'm not even worried about that. Right. If you have a guy like drew doughty or a Dustin Brown who can step into the league at eighteen years old, and hold down in any gel, shift and not look out of place. Then great fine do it. But other than that, I mean, we all know what the kings cap situation is we know that they have roster spots that they would like. To open up, obviously out the enough, but there's follow COPA Brown. Kovalchuk Carter to Foley, Clifford Louis Wagner, grunts, strum. That I leave Chuck out that I, I think you said it. Yeah. I mean, there's just so many guys, so you know, and then you also have to work in, you know, is Jared Anderson Dolan, gonna make a shot at the team as a kill Thomas gonna make a run of the team is a guy like eight and Dudas gonna come out of nowhere. I mean, they have spots and the next two seasons are going to be question marks, you know, and I think ownership and management have correctly said. You know, the, the expectation is not to contend in the next two seasons. But certainly, if they if they do, right. Nobody's going to lose any sleep over no one's gonna cry tears. And I think personally the team will be much better than last year. But yes this effort to recreate or restructure the team. You know, they don't have any real solid prospects that were drafted four or five years ago. Right. They have kale Clegg who has taken in sixteen. I think and then you have a, you know, two years worth of draft picks, basically. And then now this will be the third, so yeah, these guys are going to start getting woven into the into the fabric of this team slowly over time the way you would want them to and look Turcott comes in, in a year and barefoot comes in. Barefoot right. It does translate to barefoot. Yeah you weren't fault. And then look, they also got two second round picks this year, it was meant to be too, but they traded one of their third round picks to, to move up and get a second runner. So mean you're starting to see now the prospect cabinet. Get full right? Once you start seeing fans say a why do they take this guy? They're, they're overloaded at. That's you know that's why they take offense when they have too many defences none. You don't have too many prospects. You have as many as you have and take best avail, if you trade him, you trade them. And so now that can only be a good thing when you start looking at your prospect pool, and you're saying, oh, God. Wow man, we took it offensive like where's he gonna play? It's fine. It's great. Also, just keep in mind, like look back to Chico Petar who was selected eleventh overall. You've got an article Dr came into the league lit it up from day one. You've got the fifth overall pick Alex Turcott. So chances are he's gonna turn out to be a pretty good player. Ah look at over the past couple of years. Jerry Anderson Dolan who's gone round two. Now Anderson dole looks like he could have a crack at making the roster this year, and should be on the kings roster this year. So when you look at these guys and you look at the guys who've just been drafted yesterday. And now today, there are some of these guys who could make an impact on this team within two to three years. And like you're saying Alex Todd is going to Wisconsin. He's gonna play for Tony Granato, former king, it was -sconsin. Okay, terrific. I've got no problem with that it to three years. Is he going to be ready to step into the LA kings and play a pivotal spot on this team? I'd say, yes. So I say next two or three years are going to be critical in the development of the seem like you were saying, you're not gonna win the Stanley Cup probably next year two years playoff team. Okay. Possibly is a team better than it was last year one hundred percent. Already, I would say, so, I think we're the LA kings are in a really good spot at this point, just to get people caught up, by the way on, what has gone on so far as I mentioned they took to by Bjorn fought at number twenty two over on the first round and then the second round starting today up. Ev winds up going to the kings with the second pick in the second round. He's seventeen year old played for Hamilton and the OH L last year had one hundred and two points, big kid at six to one ninety four and then the kings made a trade, one of the many trades that has happened today, which is really a complete reversal around one pretty much had one trade yesterday. One the entire draft yesterday night in the round of the first round and that was just a train draft picks with Philadelphia Carolina swapping some picks today. We've had some major trades, and we're gonna get to those in our second segment here coming up in a few minutes, but the kings did make I would call it a minor, trader swapping pick, so they can move up in the second round. They actually traded a third rounder and a fourth rounder, make that a second rounder and a fourth round or to Montreal in exchange for pick number fifty overall and took a player named Samuel Fayyum MO who is five foot eleven a winger. They don't specify writer left. I guess he's played on both. So those are the two picks for the king. So. Today, getting back to Alex Turcott wanna talk a little bit more about him. And some of the, the things that he brings to the table for the LA kings with that after he was selected. Of course, the folks over on NBC SM we're talking about him and everywhere around the country because everyone thought it was such a fantastic here is Turcott when he didn't interview prior to being drafted and talking about his season with the national developmental team. And specifically his ability to take faceoffs surges through Monroe creek, we, it's not actually Turco talking. It's a panel of analysts. Oh, is it? Oh, so you told me it was Turkey. That's all right. Here's a panel of analysts talking about circa, Amy reminds me a little bit of Zach Parise with a little bit of an edge sandpaper to game. He's the type of player that plays an abrasive style. But he's got to so many tools in its toolbox to throw out there. You know, Jackie's may be the most electrifying player for the national team development program Alex Turcott, maybe one of the most valuable players for that program, his game just transcends in so many different areas. He's. Got grit can speed it up. You can slow it down. He can go to the half while he goes to the net provides that net front presence, and he's also a great faced off guy. Let's face it. Alex Turcott was number two behind. Jack us on that ending team taking face offs, and Dan, hi, no. Assistant coach works. These players on faceoffs told me that he's an exceptional faceoff guy because he's very determined. And actually Dan, Heino gave me a free pretty neat antidote as well, too for Alex circuit. And that was, this is the type of guy. Alex Turk oddities. He says, if you are beside Alex, and were walking towards an open door. Alex would be the God take maybe one or two strides faster to make sure he's through that open door before you are. That's the competitive verve in this guy, and that's the same way he is on the ice. All right. So rude. But. I. Aren't we all? So as they were saying at the very end of that clip, besides joking stuff. This is a guy who, again was a leader with that national developmental program. And although Jack used goes number one overall sounds like Turcott was as much facilitator as much a great playmaker. Maybe even as Jack Hughes was Alex Tanguay who, of course, was a great NHL for many, many years now, working with NHL network. He did a wonderful job. I don't know if you guys saw. But before the draft, he went up to buffalo during the combine did all these interviews talking with different kids and, and trying to get a nice scouting report on the players. Here's Tang gay with the scouting report on Turcott. I was blown away the smarts. The hockey IQ Dupois that he added the interview you could see and smell that confidence that he had with an himself. You know we wash the under eighteen just game back from a mononucleosis so wasn't in the best physical form and still added to Mendes tournament. You can see the compete level that what's reassure me about this. You know, this kid is dead. When you have kids that have high Hugh that, yes, this still have things that they have to learn and grow within their games. But when you know that the kid is going to compete like that on a nightly basis, you know, that eventually is going to develop into the player you all expect him to be a high caliber prospect, that team that's going to draft him is going to get very lucky to have a kid like it. And I asked him, you know, because I knew that over the course of the last year, he stayed in lived with Jack us family said who's more competitive? You're Jack and I asked both Jack and Alex, same question. They both answered that it was DEM, but by very smart and getting to know some of those kids was very, very interesting. And those kids are going to are going to be faces that we're going to know for a long time in the NHL Alex Turku the comparable or there, let's put a mixture between Jonathan Brayden point, so not a bad. You know, here's my draft card. Yeah. That wouldn't be bad Jonathan. Somewhere MBA. Yeah. Sure. No problem. I think that would be just fine. Yeah. And finally, here's Turcott when he was asked before the draft where he would like to go in the NHL. I mean obviously pretty cool. That was my team growing up, but CNA Chalik. I really don't care where I go on Chicago scrape. But, I mean, I'll be happy to go because, again, a lot of people thought or would wind up at number three overall, instead, his quote, unquote, hometown. Chicago Blackhawks decided to pick someone else in Kirby dock. And I wonder if maybe you know, kid breaks into the NHL, and he plays against the Blackhawks they'd come here you goes there for the first time he's going to be a little extra motivated, Jesse everything we heard about him in those clips and anything you read about him. I think he's gonna be exactly that kinda guy. I think, and he you know, there was a clip that I didn't include where he was talking about the fact that he was familiar with the kings, not only because his uncle and his family have, you know, deep coaching routes and are involved with Jerry gains, but also because he was a Black Hawk fan. He saw the kings play the Blackhawks. And some of those. Incredible series. Look, we talked about, you know, the importance that everybody's been placing on on speed and skill and it's faster game and youth etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Everything you hear about this kid is, again, I mentioned it already. But competitiveness, Dr sandpaper, you know, he's the guy that runs to the door to get there before you, Los I was great. You know, I just think I just think this kid is, is more likely to have all of those intangibles for lack of a better word already in place. You know, the things that you that the sports talk callers will spend entire like, the, the LA kings fan. Message board they're still having fights over whether or not on Jaco Petar has enough personal drive to be a quality NHL player the guys the guys, the captain of the team. Sell like they're still having the same fight for twenty years. Meanwhile, Alex Turcott I think you'll never that's gone version. I don't think you'll ever have to have you know what I love also is the lineage. So you've got you've got kids now. And they're, they're dad's played in the NHL the wrongful played in the eye. Whatever it is. I'd like to, and I think you're seeing more and more that, and you're gonna see a lot more because these kids are around hockey all the time. They're brought into the locker rooms at a young age. It's kind of a hockey by Moses where you see it so much year round it so much. You just kinda soak it all in. And I think you're seeing that now and this is this is a key example of that. L Turcott, his dad, his, his, his that Jeff played, or is Jeff played in the NHL coach junior kings program. Like you said, this is all just hockey saturation for these kids. His family runs a camp, right? It's what they know what they're around all the time. I love players like this, I think it's great to see and again Alfie a first round pick. As a matter of fact, or go, ASO, father, son. That is correct with Montreal played a few years in the NHL. Montreal. And Washington as well. So. Yep. Some lineage there. And hopefully it rubs off a little bit on Alfie and on Alex gave me and he winds up becoming an NHL in the very near future. We are going to be taking your calls throughout the show where I'm with you for about the next hour and forty minutes, talk and draft talking kings, eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. This is the all the king's men live any children special. Now from your home for the LA kings, a look at the NHL draft and how it impacts your LA kings, this LA kings draft cover. Here's Jesse Cohen, rob render, and gave Joseph. Back day, LA kings headquarters, Elsa. Godot that's Jeff Dave and I are on rob lender. Eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. So as we mentioned are in the first segment of the show today. No trades essentially yesterday and today, all of a sudden, I'm driving in. I'm looking at my phone. Checking Twitter check and Facebook, lots and lots of traits and big ones happen. Now, yes, they didn't involve the kings. Although I did mention the, the one minor trade. The kings made to move up and until, like select Samuel Fayyum. Oh, in the second round the big trades. However, we should mention them PK, sue ban course. The star defenceman for the national predators winds up getting traded to the New Jersey Devils Steve Santini advancement named Davies who is one of the best college defensemen in the country last year, two thousand nineteen th second and two thousand twenty second round pick go to Nashville in that deal. So sue ban goes to the devils a team that obviously pick number one overall. Jack hughes. They're having a huge weekend in New Jersey and the Patrick Marlowe the veteran spent most of his career, of course, in San Jose goes to Toronto was with Toronto last season, the year before he wants up getting traded to Carolina for a conditional first round pick next year and a seventh round pick a sixth rounder winds up going to Toronto in that deal to sensually salary dump for them because Toronto's got this major cap crunch trying to figure out ways to sign all their young superstars so they wind up having to deal Patrick Marlowe away. Now, Carolina has to convince Patrick Mara, little to play for them. And even if he won't they'll just buy him out and wind up becoming a free agent on a market, which is right now saturated with pretty good free agents, also a couple of minor trades. Wouldn't call JT Miller all that minor JT Miller winds up getting dealt from Tampa to Vancouver, the host team for this draft. So all the fans that were there that are rooting for the Vancouver Canucks probably pretty happy to get a young JT Miller. Twenty six years old had a good season last year for Tampa Bay the best team in. Regular season. One of getting swept away, of course in the first round of the playoffs. So Miller is now gone Tampa tries to free up some cap space there. So they can sign some of their young guys that the cap is really putting a hurt in on lots and lots and lots of teams right now. Especially teams that were highly competitive this season looking for the Stanley Cup. You got San Jose. Of course they brought back Carlson on that huge eleven million dollar a year deal. So now they have to figure out how to get everybody under contract. He got Toronto doing the same thing. I just mentioned Tampa Bay also trying to figure out ways and teams like the New Jersey Devils traded for PK sue ban today are in a great position because now they can acquire some of those awesome assets without having to give up a lot. And that's what we've seen throughout the day, so far today. So those are the big trades that we've had go down. And there's some talk and chatter online right now that we're not done yet. A lot of teams trying to make moves as they go along through the second day of the draft, as I mentioned, the kings have made a couple of pixel for today. We're still waiting on their third pick of the day. That will come up at number eighty seven overall in the third round. So we'll get you up dated on that one when they do make that pick. Let's talk a little bit guys about the pick that they made it number twenty two first round pick from yesterday. That was the Pictet LA received as part of the Jake Muhsin trade with Toronto. So they got a couple of prospects in that deal to guys who probably gonna have an opportunity to crack their lineup as soon as this upcoming season. And they also get that pick number twenty two in the first round, and they used it to select Tobias Bjorn fought. And as Jesse is said a couple of times, how does he what does it translate to barefoot bare foot? Exactly. Right. Big kids, six foot one ninety three left handed shot at twenty two points last year. So not an overly explosive offense of year for him thirty nine games in the Swedish junior league. He is going to return to Amort Vance league there this year, I guess he was called up toward the end of last season by Djurgarden, I believe that's how you pronounce it. I'm doing my best with Swedish names. That was good. Yeah. Not bad garden. That's doing. That's right. You signed a two year deal with them. So it sounds like he's gonna go back there to play this upcoming season. But kid, Jesse who you bring in a defenseman sounds like he was pretty highly rated just about everybody had him either toward the back of the first round or middle of the first round. He wants going essentially right in the place that he should have. Yeah. I mean, I was reading analysis of this kid, and he was listed on one of the, there's somebody came up with a list of ten guys your team's shouldn't take in the first round and I- tug on my caller. And I went oh brother he was listed, like fourth or fifth on this list. And I started reading the list and every single guy on this list, wasn't none of the reasons not to take any of these kids was, you know, they don't know how to skate not hockey. Yeah. We're like his wrists are backwards or something stupid like that. It was always just this kid is rated nine point five. And when you take a first rounder, you want them to be a ten. And the more I read about this kid, the more absurd. I felt it was because the only complaint that anybody had, and I found it in multiple places was there's some question as to whether or not his offensive ability. It ranks right? Is considered elite. Right. His defense is, you know, he's being compared to all these phenomenal defense. When same thing as Turcott, you know, compete level his grit, his leadership, you know, he's been on a captain at every level. He's ever played in all. That is unquestionable. The question was just well his slapshot is, it's only very good. It's not great and I just thought you know what? I really don't care, not a big deal. Not really Trevor Lewis was taken seventy th overall in the first round. And I know that there are people who will say, well, you could've traded down and gotten better. No. If you can get a guy who will play for you for twelve years, thirteen years, maybe longer, even if it's only six or seven as long as you're getting a contributing regular NHL player that spot. I'm thrilled with it. This kid projects to be even if it's just a sec. Just gimme a break. Even if it's a second pair defenseman you need second pair defenseman. You know, the kings. Part of this five-year morass that they find themselves in that they lost Willie Mitchell and they lost Slava Voinov, and they never really replaced either one of them. And so you were looking to Jake Muhsin to hold down a pairing. You're looking to drew doughty to hold down a pairing the ducks wanna Cup right by being incredibly dominant by having three guys that could play thirty minutes. So this notion that somehow own quote unquote, only getting a second pair defenseman in the first round, I don't buy the kid looks incredible from all the clips, I saw, and there have been some comparisons that I've read that he's been compared to one Matisse Norstrom, who kept in the king's for several years, I take that I'd be happy with that, if you have a kid, like this, who has those leadership qualities, and everything we hear from Rob Blake and Luc Robitaille. They're looking for leaders. They're looking for players with character. They're looking for players who can skate. He checks all those boxes. So I think you're getting another again, you're getting a really good selection. With this pick and Jesse said if he can play for you for for years in the league you've done your job. So I think another quality selection, and that brings up an interesting point, both of these guys in Turkey and Bjorn fought, especially the first rounders. I don't know much about the second rounders, but let's just concentrate on those guys for a moment. We do know a lot about them. These are guys who have that makeup, the leadership quality, the kid who can wear the letter within the first couple of years, three years in the NHL, we're talking about guys who obviously are going to be great in the room where they assume we're going to be great in the room, make up his obviously, something every team is looking for nobody wants a cancer and clearly they've gotten that with these two guys they're finding guys who can fit in their room right away, who are going to be leaders who are potentially going to wear a letter for them. I think that's something that they're targeting specifically. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's what's a lot of what's been missing from this team. And I think Jesse back me up on this is the leadership Cape. Abilities. Right. A lot of the leaders have left this team. Whether it's a Willie Mitchell or Justin Williams, or whoever might have been, we've seen those players to part and now on some level, there has to be youth aspect to we're those players are replaced, you have the, the group that's there now but then you need the up and coming leaders of this team. And I think that's where Luc Robitaille rob Laker looking ahead and they're saying, we need these leaders, now we need to start developing them at a young age. These are the guys that they're going to be looking toward after he was selected. Here's the analysis on Bjorn fought from NBC sports network. So counted gold, medalist eighteen very, very good skater, excellent competitor. I don't think there's a ton of offense that his game, but he's gonna fit right into an area. Laker, Ryan mcdonagh that type of player Ryan mcdonagh is a good player. But but, but the offense of play for more there, but he's, he's a fierce to. He's a competitive defender. You do not gain any type of pice for. Space on him easily because the skating this show good. He pushes way out of problems that he can push you into areas. What I like to call running into the dip. She puts you in the spots where you just can't do anything. That's key sets. That's gotta does. But hey listen, you got a out of defense. The complaint with drew doughty for the next eight years. I mean he's not ready for a couple of years. You years down to two years. I agree that there's this is probably one of the best comparisons. We've had from a player that gets drafted through a player in the National Hockey. He's so similar Ryan mcdonagh, and I know everybody wants immediate results. But if you're getting Ryan mcdonagh, or a copy of Ryan, mcdonagh, Jesse in two years from now, you'll take it all day in the video clip. That's playing with that little speech was, you know, him basically blocking shots dumping guys, making outlet pass. That was the other thing. You know, the moves the puck the phrase, I kept hearing was not a great, they're not in a not creative passer, but a fast passer, whatever I'm not sure what that difference. Yeah, it was like the all everybody is one of the reasons I don't necessarily love draft coverage is that all these kids are good, right? And the kids are only going to get better. Moving forward. Right. As development programs, get better and coaching becomes better and kids, sir getting specialized at a younger age. This is now in an industry, right? Whereas thirty. Forty fifty years ago, it was still sort of a weird, you know, guys were smoking cigarettes in between periods. And there was no off-season training program like these kids only gonna get better and better and better, which means that in order to differentiate yourself as an analysis, you're going to have to start finding ways to tear them down because you can't just sit up there and they're all great. They're all it's not very them. So, you know, people are getting creative with trying to find ways. So everything I read about this kid was well, he's not a creative passer, but he's a fast passer. He's not a good skater, but he's a strong skater like they would just contradict themselves trying to find a way to put a chink in his armor. But then immediately drying, Buffa, backout, make him sound great. He looked fantastic. Like I said the cap the fact he's a captain at every level. He's played at minor detail. He's left hand shot out. Doughty. Right hand, they were just talking about pairing him with drew out, maybe a couple of years from now, but, you know, seems like a seamless combination. If you're looking for something like wouldn't be all that, you know, Evan interesting question for you. Dave one that I, I thought about a little bit here. When? It came to the hiring of new head coach with this team. Obviously, they wanted to get that done as quickly as they possibly could. They did with Tom McClellan coming aboard what's been one hour. So, so a little while where he's had some time to get not just comfortable with where he is. But comfortable with the scouting staff and, and go into this draft. And I'm sure he had some input you're in the building. I mean you see this on a regular basis, even though you might not be in that room when it comes to his involvement. I'm sure that he was directly involved with these picks. I think to some extent he was probably involved. I think there's, there's been a plan that's been laid out with Rob Blake, where they sat down and said, here's our plan for the next three to five years. And that's why he signed a five-year deal. He wants to be a part of this long term in, I'm sure there have been conversations where rob is. Here's what we're looking forward, you agree, disagree. Where do you think we need to, you know improve or work on things here? So I think there have been conversations did not see on McClellan at the draft was there. Right. So, so obviously, there's some input going. On there, and I think that's important because you need to have that, both both GM coach need to be on the same page in terms of needs, what you're looking for in the future. So I think that's a good point. I think that, that to get Todd up and running right away and have them in a position. He is now. I think that's a good thing for the kids. I've said this before, but when he was hired number one, I thought it was a tremendous choice by the great move. You ought not just his structure, but his structure automatically in my opinion. Anyways gonna lead to four or five more wins right off the bat because I think he's gonna bring everybody together. It'd be much more of a cohesive group, but not just cohesiveness within the room and with his relationship with the players, but also with the rest of the front office. Obviously, we know he and Rob, Blake know, each other very, very well from LA playing with them up in San Jose when he was the coach there that means so much I think, to an organization when you have everybody on the same page when your head coach can go upstairs, talk to your general manager vice versa. You can go down to the room and you guys can have this collaborative effort. I'm gonna use that word a lot. I think it is a collaborative effort with the front office. And maybe there was a little bit of a disconnect the last couple of years. I don't know that specifically, but I'm just saying that it's one thing that could help this team going forward as if everybody's on the same page. Yeah. And I think part of the problem was the last couple of years is there's this. There's this feeling that because of the two Stanley Cups in recent years. Maybe this team still had it right. I put it in quotes. Maybe they had it maybe they were a player or two away from advancing deep in the playoffs again. And we saw that last year that just wasn't the case. And now it's time for the retool. It's time for the reboot, whatever you wanna call it to have everyone on the same page moving ahead. Great thing for this organization. They're definitely headed in the right direction. We have some pretty cool news coming up in a bow was at two minutes from now Jesse. Yeah. Really? Really? Soon, Alex Turcott the newest member of the LA kings organization, first round pick number five overall, taking yesterday is going to join us right here on the program, so are going to get to talk to Alex. I'm sure we have tons and tons. The questions forum. I know I do that's for sure. And it's mostly about Alfie and how cool it was to see him at the at the draft yesterday. I haven't seen Alfie Turcott in years. I mean we're going back to the eighties now when Alfred was selected so cool to see ham. So we're gonna hear from Alex Turcott get to talk to him about the excitement of joining the organization, his plans for the future, and everything we can come up with so that's coming up here in just a couple of minutes. And again, you can reach us after the interview eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. Now is as good a time as any to break when we come back, we're going to hear from the newest member of the LA kings, Alex Turcott. This is the all the king's men live. H L draft special. Welcome back to the Kingsman live draft special as you heard rob render with Jesse Cohen, Dave Joseph from Illich kings headquarters as we break down the draft for the kings. And also, keep you in touch with everything going on in Vancouver on day to our first guest really a pleasure to have him on. He was taking number five over. Overall first round pick the LA kings last night out of the US national developmental program re at sixty two points last year in just thirty seven games. The newest member of the LA kings, it's Alex Turcott, Alex. It's raw Brenner. Dave, Joseph and Jesse Cohen. First of all, has it all said, in your now, member of the LA kings. You're in the NHL yet, I think been. So busy haven't really had too much time to digest it. But I mean it's just the real and to be picked by kings, and number five is Jim come true. And I don't think it's still sudden yet, but I mean, some of them to remember for the rest of my life. Alex tons been said about your family, and obviously lineage the coaching and the camp you dad played. I'm curious at what age did you set for yourself? You know, a goal of making the NHL, and when did you as a realistic possibility? Yeah. I think I mean growing up as a kid, you always dream of playing in the NHL, and I mean that was always my going dream, but I'm I think my first year, the US national team development program. I think that's when I realized that I really had a great chance to, to be a really good player and. Yeah, high pick in the NHL on. And hopefully make it. Alex, what are your thoughts on, on going to the university of Wisconsin, and you're playing for a former king and Tony Granato? Think it's perfect. I mean Tony's really good friends is all the management and the coaching staff here and I think that's that's really beneficial everyone's on the on the same page in Wisconsin's grades facilities there. And, and like you said the coaching staff, they're, they're going to help me out, a lot and prepare me to to make that any shell and, and being Kim very ship. We're talking Alex Turcott first-round pick the LA kings, number five overall. I I got a question for you. Alex about your dad Alfie, obviously, you grow up in an NHL family. Former first round pick I was watching TV yesterday when you were selected like everybody else was in this room and he just seemed over the moon. So excited for you. I'm just curious what it was like growing up without fee. And how he got you involved in hockey and how much is it dad? He wanted to push you toward this career. Yeah. I mean he put fraud for fifteen years show pretty experienced and I mean he he's really. Supportive, and he's always been my biggest fan and he I mean the hockey when I was like two or three and I've loved it ever since and agrees in about him was he just want me play. And because I love the game he, he did push me, but nothing too crazy. I mean, he would have been happy with whatever, whatever I wanted in life, and I was lucky enough to have someone like him supporting me and, and being on my side from day one, Alex would like to read a quote from you that I found in article you said playing in front of tons of Canadians and ruining their party. There's nothing that. About. He's talked about hearing the, the national anthem playing on Canadian soil, and that it may special talk to us about where you find that sort of edge to wanna stick it to your puns. Yeah, probably shoulda word of that a little better. But. Good. It's great. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. It's definitely not filtered, but well, oh well, I guess I'll learn from it. But now it cool to to. I mean be Canada. I mean, but I mean just knowing the history of Canadian hockey there known as the powerhouse team and just I guess, compete against them. And, and come out on top was just a really cool moment. And then all the fans there. I mean they love the game of hockey. They're having that, that many fans I guys ruined against. You was definitely really coach. Alex wanted to get your thoughts on the on the LA kings, the way currently things shake out here with Andrzej co Petar and Dustin Brown and drew doughty and Jonathan quick. What do you what do you make of the kings? What do you know the kings and, and how excited are you to, to be here? Maybe a couple years from now. Yeah. I mean growing up a hawks fan. Obviously, I've seen a lot of Alec Hanes and I mean them in the, the Blackhawks were pretty much rivals there for good four or five years, const. What you off on Cup runs. And I mean, they're, they're just a bunch of winners, and they're a bunch of players, and they know what it takes. I mean, they, they didn't win two cups, nothing. Like those guys those guys are leading definitely do the right things on and off the ice. And I just can't wait to, to meet them eventually and get started with them. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. And I'm really stoked just a couple more minutes with Alex Turcott kings first round pick. Taking yesterday you're listed at five eleven one eighty six we're seeing that size around the NHL isn't really much of an issue anymore, especially if you really skilled on the forward lines. But how much do you wanna put on terms? Wait. Are you looking to get bigger? How much do you want to change your physical game as well? Yeah. I think. I mean, I think I saw some more room for for height. And I think I mean I'm not trying to Volk up too much. I still wanna stay quick and fast. And I think I'm at a Ligand weight right now. And on my feel really, really comfortable. I feel like I, I just gotta get in the weight room a little bit more about I wanna try and like woke up. I just wanna get really I guess, fit in shape and kinda kinda stay away say the way I'm just added a little strength on. I think that's going to help me a lot, just especially at the long grilling seasons that, that on the NHL. I mean you need you need to you need to be in good shape and, and take care of your body. And I think going to -sconsin they're gonna teach me do that properly and help prepare me. Alex last question from me, you've been described as sandpaper and silk if you had to choose one sandpaper horse silk, which martier game would you keep? I'd probably do sell because that's that's the offense part of the game. And I, I mean that's the scope part of the game. I guess I mean, I think that's really important aspect of the game is to make make ways and make other people better. And I think so really important. I mean both are really important. You got to be gritty to, especially you the NHL playoffs. It's it's ridiculous. How it's orders and how fast people get closed out. So I, I don't know kinda hard when they're both they're both really important. Alex for me, I think everyone wants to know what you do in your spare time. Are you fortnight guy, are you? You have hobbies you play chess. What is it that Alex comics to do when he's not playing hockey? I'm a big basketball guy. So actually, I've always been a big, what Brown fan, which is pretty cool 'cause obvious on the Lakers. So I mean just playing basketball bodies and just doing anything with them going to movies. I mean go into golfing range, just anything I think of myself as a really social person, and just like to be around my friends, and, and doing whatever I think, but it means playing for night sometimes. I mean I'm not the biggest player but it for me it's more of a social thing. Just one last one for you. Alex, the national developmental team had a tremendous day yesterday eight players selected including yourself Jack Hughes goes number one overall. I know you guys are such a tight knit group. You must have been the thrill just sitting there and watching all those names called. Yeah. Just kind of makes me proud to be American to see those guys go in the first round, and I mean, all those guys are my brothers. We play together for the last two years. And those are friendships and have for the rest of my life and to see those guys the success that they deserve. I'm kind of be happier for those guys and. I mean, even now watching watching the draft, and I mean, I'm seeing my, my teammates get drafted right now. And it just makes me so proud. And it's just so cool. Yeah. It's just it's surreal. Alex one very quick last question. Can you confirm for us that you have a dog? Yeah. You have a dog, he's a black lab and his image, Charlie perfect, welcome to Los Angeles. Charlie? Alex, too. Yeah. Hey Alex, thank you so much for the time. We really really appreciate it. We know how busy must be crazy of day. It must be enjoyed brother. Congratulations. Awesome. Next week yank you wait. Thanks, appreciate that's kings first round pick. Alex Turk, was that sound like that. Yeah. You're right. I mean he he's into it, and he's just passionate personality. You can see you can feel the personality through the phone. I mean I loved it. I loved conversation so cool out of a topic is a lot of times, you get the guys that are the robots right. They've been trained for this. We're ready for my moment. I'm not gonna give you anything this guy. He's genuinely excited and it didn't feel like it was like stock answers like you go into the interview room. And he's well, I wanna do it for the team and I want to help out I'm here to contribute him. Like you could hear it in his voice when you use the question about his teammates on the development team. And he's, I'm so happy for all those guys like you could just hear it coming through the phone. I love hearing that. I love the energy. I love the enthusiasm. You could tell stoke so can't wait to have been Los Angeles. It's gonna be great player for years to come. There was a quote, he, he was like, right. Every had been drafted, and I forget the name of the of the reporter of this being doom. But she asked me. What are you feeling? What do you think? And he basically said, look, I'm going to be great. I can do it. All. I can do everything I do whatever you need. I mean he's confident. But yet we heard from just now. He's, he's also self aware. Yeah. And I think that's you know, I think that's another thing that's going to happen. More and more is these kids, learn from an early age. Right. That, you know, even he caught himself talking about the beating the Canadians on there is maybe, you know, maybe I should around that through a filter I but I'm excited to see I like it without the filter. I think hockey needs a little bit more of that. And he's got a dog so potential future. Here we go starts already. I think one of the things that stands out to and to your point. Jesse is that it's not even just the Canadian thing. But that's kind of reflection of. I think as I was saying early. He might take it out on Chicago. And she's my hometown team passed up on me. Stick it to him. Yeah. Seems like that kinda guy and that's confidence plays into. I love the temperament, I love the mentality and you could see why he could be a captain absolute right? Absolutely LeBron James. So it's like a perfect fit if you know, and I, I can't remember if we heard it in one of the clips, we played or if I heard it somewhere else but they were saying Jack Hughes may have been the best player on that team. But Alex Turcott was the most valuable player on that team. Yeah. And that's interesting. And I mean anybody listening to this podcast or live shows, whatever long enough knows, you know, I don't care about who the best is right? Is the miracle quote, I'm now looking for the best guys. I'm looking for the right guy, and this guy sounds like he's one of the. Interestingly enough to when we heard this during the clip we played earlier, he lived with Jackie and Hughes family for some time. And I think that's, that's a little thing. But it actually might be a bigger thing than than we're making it out to be the fact that he was in a room with that kid twenty four seven talking hockey living hockey. We know Jackie's well number one overall. He's a skilled as it gets in draft, those guys were on the ice together, not just with the developmental program. Probably in their spare time practicing working on moves all that stuff rubs off. And Jack uses father was a scout for many, many years, I believe you might still be for an NHL team. So certainly involved in hockey in some way. So he's been kind of in this world where hockey is life since he was, basically a little tiny babies at two years old. He hit the ice with his dad that obviously is going to play big part in his development and him getting here and him being ready for this. I think Dave. Yeah. No question about it. I think being around that the Hugh what their three Hughes brothers. Yeah. I mean that's a lot of hockey and his dad and his uncle, he's been immersed. In hockey is entire life and. It can't help but rebuff on you after all these years, right? I remember in two thousand fourteen when drew doughty and Logan Qatar we're playing. I mean obviously they'll teams playing against each other kings, sharks and everybody made a big deal about doubting. Kapoor being bud. Yeah. Known each other forever, and blah, blah, blah. And the kings were down three. And drew doughty says we saw the look on their faces. And we knew we had them. I think maybe after the first winner might have even been in the OT loss. I can't help. But think that. Intimate knowledge of guy that you're going to play against. Can come in handy, right? Like maybe the kings don't win that series. If dowdy doesn't know mature enough to know we've got them. Yeah. Yeah. And we've heard him so. Well, right. And we've heard already from Turcott he wants to be, you know, Canada on Canadian ice. He's lived with with Hughes. Should the two teams ever come up against each other? I have no doubt. Right. The Turcott is gonna wanna beat Hughes. I mean that's and its history shows in Stanley Cup finals. The kings have done nothing but beat the New Jersey Devils. That's right. So sorry, rob should be set again. You know, history Pete self, which has habit of doing, you know, the why we were doing the interview, by the way guys, the kings have picked again and wait rival as updated as we can. Yes, they did take a goalie. Lucas parak- believe you pronounce it. Parakeets from the Czech Republic. Six four one eighty five another big goal tender, we saw one goaltender taken in the first round, by the way yesterday by the Florida Panthers. And you look at. Parag obviously equally as big as goaltender that went yesterday out of the developmental program, but against six four hundred eighty five pounds out of the Czech Republic played for a youth team. They're each see letting any and looking for a little bit of a scouting report on him. But there's not a whole lot in here so don't have much on him. But anyway, he goes in the third round number eighty seven overall in two thousand nine so interesting. The kings taken a goalie, but to your point from earlier today where you said you just take the best available. The player that you think can develop down the road. And you roll the dice. This is kind of one of those picks kings, three goaltenders right now at the NHL level. At least as of right now, we'll see if that winds up being the case the start of the season but you take goalie and you hope to develop for a couple years down the road. Yeah. I mean. This probably the worst possible time to bring up this. Bugaboo of mine. But look, this is one of the reasons I'm sort of a over the draft as a as an institution in general, because we're now ninety picks in and the reality is we're taking guys from the other side of the planet, who are eighteen years old, who played at competition level that we have no idea about. And he's a six foot four goalie. So, yeah, I've no idea. Do I trust? Bill Ranford Bill Ranford going to be able to turn him into a into a competitive professional with a career. Yeah. I've trust Bill Ranford. He's done an excellent job in his time in LA, and I trust that the kings will replace dusty EMU. But am I hanging my hopes of two thousand twenty four Stanley Cup run on the shoulders of Lucas Parikh or however you pronounce it? I say parak- because. Yeah. About from California just sounded. But I mean look, he's, he's six foot. Four goalies have been getting bigger for a while now. And. You need a pipeline. So add to the pipe the pipeline continues. It's getting deeper and deeper. That's right. Okay. I have been announced. I have been promising for about an hour now that we're gonna take some phone calls. Now is probably at the time to do it since so we're gonna take one more break. When we come back with one hour left. We've already heard from Alex Turk rate here from him. And also, by the way, kudos, to the kings, PR staffer, getting us, Alex Turcott on somewhat short notice. Thank you very much folks for helping us out there. So again, phone calls coming up after the break you wanna talk kings draft. You wanna talk direction of the franchise wanna talk Alex Turcott? You wanna talk about what Dave eight this morning before we went on the air. We'll take that one as well. While we were on the that's right. Eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero again eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero kings fans. Get your calls in now rob Renner. Dave Joseph, Jesse, Colin. Come right back on the all the king's men live. H L draft special. Does he now we're talking about dogs during the break because all the players, the kings are selecting seem to have cool, dogs and names for their dogs, so. Yeah. Like you said competition. Madness is going to be it's going to be going to be around for years and years to come off the hook next season. Watch out for the black lab. I'm sure he's coming. So, again, the kings have picked a couple of players today actually three is a matter of fact, we talked about parrot, Lucas parak- the goaltender taken in the third round there now onto the fourth round and the kings, just took another player looks like defense named Jordan, Spence. He wants up going number ninety five overall and their plant some highlights of him right now on television. So we're watching as we're telling you about him. But Jordan, Spence, who looks like he has rather. Nice shot, right handed shot and goes in the fourth round couple of second round picks today that were interesting for LA first. They took the seventeen year old and Arthur Kelly of who is actually played for Hamilton, but he's from New York area believe Thailand. Yeah. So big kids, six two hundred ninety four Pounder and Jesse kid was expected to go in the first round. So that kings may have gone some value here and born in his back. Dan? I just wanted to throw that out there. Us Becky STAN native love it. Yeah. I mean so you know was reading about him looking at him. And, and it seems like offensively. At least he is a sort of mirror version of Alex veteran, he sets up in the right faceoff circle receives passes. And then he just slams them home. The, the concerns I was reading about were that he doesn't necessarily. He's not aggressive to go get the play he, he sort of way binds the whole. Yeah. He finds the holes in the defense any any disappears. And then reappears to score now that to me was how Brett Hull was described most of my life and certainly in the nineteen ninety eight series that I love to talk about so often when the kings lost Saint Louis in game three four goals on that five minute power play. That was how it felt right? You'd have you'd have guys like bread hall who would just disappear you would almost forget that they were on the ice. But then they were so good at scoring. So for a second round pick to get a guy who may be maybe right? Because he's still. He's a I think he's nineteen. No, no. He's not ninety seventeen seventeen. None of these guys are completed products. But, but if worst case scenario, if this guy, you know, only is an elite scorer. That's again, a very nice problem to have that. You've got one guy who can just score any fifty one goals in in his junior season. Yeah. Fifty plus goals in the OH L before he turned eighteen years old pretty good and fifty one a sit. He can score. And he can dish. And I think for who doesn't who waits for the play to come to him. All right. Yeah. And from the whack of scoring that, that the kings of seen over the past few years. I think that's a good thing is not. I mean you need a guy to kind of bridge, the gap here and someone add to the offense capabilities of this team. There you go. The first thing I read about him dangerous with the puck on his stick, and anytime you read that I liked rate shot heavy shot. And as you said, sets up, maybe like Alex Ovechkin sits there, wait for that pass and rips it to one ninety s not a little guy either. He's got that heavy that heavy body seventeen. So the chances that developed could grow, even a couple more inches who knows. All right. So I've been promising we're gonna take some calls. Let's do it now. Let's go to Clint I. Cluggy there. This is all the king's men live. How you doing? Hey, guys be beyond long pod pre sheet everything you guys do. Outstanding appreciate that very much, what's happen and some love and all the, you know, Swede coming to allay potentially going to see a Swedish five line down the road. I be perfectly fine with. Yeah. I mean, this is happening across all sports as teams or folk, you know, salary caps get implemented and the age of unrestricted free agency gets lower and lower. And I think it's probably gonna keep getting lower. You start seeing guys making nine ten eleven. There's talk that martyr might even get fourteen million dollars teams are going to have to find places to for value. Right. And if it means going overseas or finding players, you know, a guy like barefoot who doesn't have a quote unquote elite offensive game. But he's great in every other. Area, then I'm all for it. Right. And, and yeah. I would I would love to see Cambay grunts from Bjorn fought and whoever else will get those. Yeah. Were close. It couldn't happen. Thanks for the call. Clint. We really appreciate it. Let's go to Jaden and Fullerton, next. Jay Naidoo and. I am doing pretty well. Let's cars of the podcast, the kings round, the or podcast, merrier Louis. You know Jackie is a fine player in all the I'm pretty happy with how expire and all the we've made, I think this is a fine year for the kings, and, you know, these are important, and all, but I my roommate is a ducks fan, I would just love to hear jesse's opinion on the speculation behind Corey Perry possibly being a king. And I don't think it would happen games. Joe funny. Yeah. I don't think it would have. I don't I'm not expecting it, but I'm but I won like I wouldn't have a heart attack or be shocked. If it did happen, we as we said, there's a year or two where you, you know, some of these contracts aren't going anywhere. And so I'd be fine with a one year or maybe even a two year deal. But it absolutely I will say this every kings, duck's game would be that much sweeter. Oh, exactly. It would be a ton of on especially the games at the pond. I was at the pond. Wearing kings jersey. That'd be happy. Instigator so much fun. Make the other whatever seventy something games worth it. Thanks for the call. We appreciate so you wouldn't feel weird. I was feel. No. I mean, look, if I were younger, I would I would threaten to stop being a fan of the team, but a little bit calmer version of myself. And the reality is, we know that he was injured out. He's wedding. We know that he and Jeff Carter buddies. So it would take longer than usual. But I talked myself into it. Eight seven seven five zero one one five zero the number eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. You know, we've been talking about the of the team, I guess this leads into that perfectly well, so Dave, I'll go with you to you with this. We've got a team that people have been complaining a little too old. Little bit too slow trying to get younger we're trying to get more athletic. The kings front office itself said, we want to get younger and more athletic bring in a guy like Corey Perry would be the exact opposite of that. I don't necessarily see that happening. But what about just activity and free agency as a whole? It doesn't sound like this team's going to really go for the big shots right now that they're probably gonna hold back, maybe because of the cap, maybe because they just wanna get younger as a whole. And don't wanna go for a high price guy at this point. Yeah. I don't think I don't think that's part of the plan if I were to guess I would say, to build in this draft is, is the first key and the second key is to keep building. From here forward. So you get all these draft picks. You get the possible free agent signings. And then you see what you have as an organization, I think anything outside of that from a free agent perspective, I don't think is very likely to happen. That's not to say raw Blake, if he got a sweet deal wouldn't, you know, certainly consider it. I think all things are on the table, but it doesn't seem likely at this point, it seems like you're right. You gotta get younger. You gotta get faster. You gotta add some scoring to the lineup. You've got a brand new coach. He's gonna work all these things together and hopefully make some kind of a miracle out of this deal over the next couple of years. I just don't think getting a big name of not that Corey Perry's a big name at this point in his career. But even if it's like a parent, or a Bob Ross ski or something along those lines, I just don't see it fitting into the fabric of the organization right now. Interesting. Because I've heard different takes on this Jesse unite talked about this in the past where there's the approach. It seems like they're taking which is we're just gonna take this probably. Year at a time, not go deep. Now wait for next season, next offseason, maybe make splash then and I've heard other people say the exact opposite that maybe this team can get back in contention really quickly if they were to go out and sign a Panara, and who wants to be in a big market. Now, most of the rumors have him going either New York or maybe even Florida, which is the anything, but a big market, if you went down there, but that would be followed his buddy Brodsky who might wind up signing with the Panthers to. But if he wanted to come here, and you do get a Panara n-, and then all of a sudden, you've got this great draft pick out, Turku comes a season later and maybe get some of these other guys who can break in the lineup a season later and do some tweaking here and their team might be back in the playoffs pretty soon. It will look rob. I think you're right. And I think if they could trade a second round pick for Eric Carlson and third. Carey price this team would be. And I don't understand. I don't understand why they don't do it. It's really kind of annoying, if we can figure it out. No, the reality is we live in a salary cap world. The kings of a ton of guys signed deals that are going to be really difficult to move. And so we were talking about the Mitch martyr situation should should've team, make fourteen million dollar offer sheet to him and sort of steal him from Toronto and everybody's saying. Yeah, I do that. And yeah, that'd be great. I would love it, but we but the kings, can't don't have the room and I'm not sure that they have the draft picks that they'd have to give compensation. So, I think much saner approach is the one, they're taking which is to say over the next two years. We're not sure what it's gonna look like, but we know we have copay tar for a long time, we know we have cope doughty for a long time. These, you know, they are deep into their careers but not. Should not be expected to be near the end of their careers yet. And so if you get a solid year next season if you get a solid the season after that doesn't necessarily have to be the playoffs although I think they could compete for playoff spots navy, not contender level. You know depends on what you mean by contender. You keep the veterans active, you know, you keep the, the grease going. And then like I said, you start working in the younger players, and who knows to seasons in three seasons and four seasons dowdy will be in his early thirties. And look, nobody was complaining. The Duncan Keith was in his early thirties when they were winning the Stanley Cup and nobody was complaining. Visit Dana chara was forty two when they made it to the final. So, you know. I'm less interested in so you don't think there's a reason worried about age on those guys not, not on those. Sure. But on Jupiter science onto long-term deal Jude out onto long-term Beal other than that. Nobody's really signed to a long term deal. Dustin Brown is three years left on his deal. Jeff Carter has three years left on his deal. There you go quick as four quick has four. Right. So that, that's it. That's the nuts and bolts of your long term deal. So if so, if you're looking at younger guys now's the time, right? Because in three years, you know what happens with Jeff Carter three years, what happens would Brown, and then you're down to quick co Petar dowdy, as your long term guys in the rest of it is, is wide open and all these rosters roster spots up for grabs with all these young kids, the walkers, the Roy's, the Wagner's, the Matteo's Instrum, the grunts, drums, the Kapar is who knows what happens with gay velocity. Right. Jared anderson. Dolan, all these all these kids are going to be competing for all these spots, which are going to be wide open because you won't have any of these contracts left on the table. Will you need the prospects or at least a few of them? Legitimately hap- salute me, that's almost every in two to three years of prospects who will probably be hitting your grunts rooms are going to take effect, your Jared Anderson Dolan is going to be regular in the lineup. I would assume hopefully gave Lardy and, and his health issues are, are, you know, get taken care of, and then all the kids that are coming up. Now you're talking about the Turcott and you talk about Kapar us, probably going to be the lineup in the next two years. Those are all guys that are going to take over roster spots in the next two or three seasons. If everything works out the way it should look in two thousand and eleven. This team had copays are Brown dowdy, you know. Blanking on some of the other younger kids. But they, you know, they said Clifford that Lewis had quick young team. But they also had Wayne Simmons and Brayden Schenn. Yep. Who were also considered. Right. A young talented core. Core yet. Well, they traded those two guys for microchips. So there's no reason why in two or three years, you can't make trade or gopher what whoever the free agent is right. There's no reason to think that some other teams might not be Toronto three years from now. But there will be some other team who does something stupid, like give John Davar is eleven million dollars a year that will put them in a cap crunch, and they'll have some twenty two twenty three twenty four year old who will be available. I just think you have to, you know, timing plays a huge role, and I and that maybe that's the unfortunate part of this happened in a year where the free agent class is very strong signing. It's fortunate okay. I actually think it's fortunate and I think I was thinking about this driving in today. And this is all the time I had I could be wrong, but we're still relatively young in the cap world. We're still pretty new to it and the CBA. Right. They, they came up with the cap and people immediately figured out a circumvented, so they fixed it. And then people immediately figured out a work around that and now you can retain salary, and now you know teams are trading for dead contracts. They're gonna work this out eventually and I think we're gonna wind up seeing a world where you have unrestricted free agency at, like twenty five maybe or at five seasons of service or something like that. But I think the kings, the Blackhawks the penguins and the blues because they were the teams that were the first to, to start rebuilds in the cap world. I think the way the cycle might work out. I think we avoid, I hope anyway, the kings will wind up, you know. Yes, you paid. Drew doughty eleven. Million. But his Dave said, there's nobody really coming up next on the block who set to make that kind of money. So let's say coupon or vulgarity dursey grunts from one, you know, Turcott let's say, one of these kids, does eventually hit and become an elite player who's gonna command that kind of money, it'll be so deep into their career that knocking on wood. I hope the league will have sorted out the CBA and, and situations of kings won't be in a position of feeling like they have to pay so much that they threaten the rest of their caps, George. And even in the first three years of the deal you're looking at what nine hundred thousand. Yeah, yeah. So you're not looking at multimillion dollar deals until the first after the first three years of their deal is up. And even then you're not going to take him into on Jaco Petar rains, you're not taking me and drew doughty rain. So you've got a little a few years to play with here before anything like that takes unless there's a big free agent out there who they're able to acquire. I again, I don't think that's in the cards. At least not at this point, then a quick update. As to what's going on mentioned that, Jordan, Spence was taken second pick in the fourth round, by the king's number ninety five Australia. Yeah. Very interesting. I was just going to say that defenseman five ten one seventy seventy played for Moncton in the queue MJ H L junior league. And the scouting report on him quick feet top speed. Excellent acceleration. Excellent passer with good vision on the ice in that support that need to be able to see what's going on. We're gonna continue to take your calls after the break. Eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero again, eight seven seven five two zero one five zero. If you want hit us up there also on Twitter at king's Ben podcast, this is the all the king's men by any children have special with your for the next thirty seven minutes or so, so get your calls in now, if you want to eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. We are talking kings talking draft all the trades that happened today, we're gonna go over those again here in just a moment, and I should mention that if. Wanna see these prospects this upcoming Thursday here kings headquarters in El Segundo pretty good opportunity. If you wanna get down and check out everybody not just the prospects that are being drafted right now. But some of the prospects from years past that are going to be coming in for scrimmage Thursday night. Six PM Pacific time. So get down here. Check them out at his open the book as far as I know there's going to be food and drinks available. Probably the snack bar, and you get to watch them pretty cool prospects on the ice in that scrimmage that's going to be big time. Because especially with the guys you're seeing drafted now with Turcott and Bjorn fought potentially this might be the one chance to see them for another year two. Yeah. Well, yes. Correct. I mean, they would presumably come back next year for development camp also. But yeah, this is your first chances he Rasmi pari person. He wasn't here last year. He had obligations in Finland kings coach should be open for anybody who's been detailed a sportscenter should be open. I just crushed a burrito. Yes cove. And it was delicious. It wasn't planning on spending significant time time during the show. But can we just really briefly talk about how good king's cove is? But I can we say why I had have kings, this bring bagels promise. There was an accident. I was running late whatever Jesse was a complete failure this morning. I didn't want to be the one to say. He literally had been asking me and text, what type of bagels do you like for the last week. And literally, the one thing he had to come through on. He didn't I spent half an hour. Welcome to cover two exits, welcome to Los Angeles. Are you live in southern California? Look, somebody had to had to had to give you a reason to be to let me in, but. Cans cove is delicious. But more to the point the tickets will be distributed for the for the scrimmage Thursday night. You can go to the king's website, they'll have information there. However, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday for those of you who have open schedules or flexible schedules. You can come down and watch the practices. There will be scrimmages during practice and won't be as organized as one Thursday night, Tuesday Wednesday, Wednesday Thursday morning early in the morning. So again, if you have to battle that traffic, I apologize, but it is worth. It is fun. It's a chance to see some of these guys for the first time. And it sounds like everybody from this year's draft will be there and like I said, party, first time to see him live gave Lardy will not be there. Unfortunately, but everybody else. Can you say total non sequitur the best mascot in the NHL Bailey has been listening to the program? I got a note that Bailey has been listening to the program, so shadow to Bailey, I told him, I would I would say Hello. Did he say anything about it? No. Did he signal anything with his? Yes, he said, get down here to development camp next week, and you get to meet Jesse Cohen. That's what he that's what he's signal to me. It really should be an awesome time. It does. He said a good opportunity to watch these kids any opportunity to watch hockey during the off season is great. So why not come down here? It's what makes this facility and being here on the west side of LA, and you could see all the renovations done to this acidity. It's been remarkable. All the changes that have happened. You could see the changes right when you walk in from outside there's changes to their get down here to the Toyota sports performance center. They added Ord. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I wanna make sure I'm saying click one quick, disclaimer. Yeah. Not a ton of actual hockey to see a lot of drills, talkie. Sure hockey drill. I just don't want people to come down thinking they're going to be watching these guys playing game. Yeah. You know it's Rasmi with the exception of Thursday night. Will there will be like I said, inter practice scrimmages, but it won't be, you know, there's now look, having said all that I was watching paying rapt attention to Matt luff shooting rish shots against a dummy two years ago, and I really liked that guy. Yeah. So, so don't tell the people that they're not going to see how should absolutely impersonal. It's not like you. You're not watching it. Like football stadiums. If you've never been here to Elsa good note to the sport. Toyota sports performance training center. Whatever it's called. Now, I should really know that come here because it's a very intimate experience. You get up close and personal with the with the players Dave electorally show. You his desk where he works. I wanna hit you guys up about the trades that have today even though the kings haven't been necessarily one of the teams in the the top list when it comes to the big move so far. They did make the one trade when they were swapping draft picks move up in the second round. But as far as the big trades, go, Jesse PK, sue ban is the biggest name that has changed homes. Now these so far today going from Nashville to New Jersey. Devils team that is somewhat in a rebuild. I think they still would consider themselves rebuilding team. They made the playoffs two seasons ago. They missed it this year. They wind up with the number one pick falling in their lap, essentially, so they get Jack hues. And now they get a defenseman and PK sue bam. This looks like at least on the surface like a complete salary, dump by Nashville PK is thirty years old, but he's still a tremendous defenseman and an all star caliber defenseman. They haven't for three more years nine million per season. Now, talk is that maybe Nashville goes out, and they spend that salary cap space on one of the free agents that's available. On the market. So it could just be a swap in that regard for them. But ultimately, doesn't it just look like one team? Really hit by the salary cap that just had to dump that salary. And the devils are saying, hey, we got tons of room. We'll take him. Yeah. First of all, don't think I don't know what you're doing. Rob. For those who don't know robs New Jersey Devils fan. So this is his way what you're talking to me kills. No look, I saw tweet today that I thought was fascinating. And I, I asked Dave. Rub. Can you name the two trades that have included a player with a cap it of nine million dollars or more? No. They're both PK sue ban straits. So look, I don't think there's any. PK sue ban brings both on the ice and off the ice. However, we may be we may be entering the stage of his career where the word overrated might start to rear its ugly head. I think he's everything the devils needed. They needed that guy in the blue line, the leader, they need a reason to keep Taylor hall. We'll tell me defense old. They definitely need defend. Is he really? But they also need offense from the times, drew doubt even traded zero. So it's either he's really highly coveted or. Yeah. Someone didn't want. Okay. Patrick Marlowe second. Big move of the day goes from Toronto another salary cap dump if you will because Toronto's got the cap to worry about and trying to sign Mitch. Martyr is going to be the saga that plays out for the next several weeks or months, he may hold out like we saw last year. I mean, we're talking about a guy who is a stud that they have to find a way to sign, and I don't know if somebody wants giving him an offer sheet or not, but more lines are being the casualty here lease the first one as he's going down to Carolina for now. We'll see if you ends up staying or if they ultimately wind up having to release him and make him a free agent again. It looks like a move that helps Carolina though on the surface. Yeah, you're getting a veteran but they probably needed a veteran a mix into that club. My understanding is, they're gonna buy them out. Is that is that Marlo has said he only? Wants play for San Jose. His family's moved back to San Jose. And I'm absolutely tickled pink, with what I think, might be coming down the pike, which is that San Jose might have to yet again, change their captain, because with the signing of Eric Carl Belsky might not might not be back. Dave. I don't know if you remember, but all those years that San Jose was coming, just so close, and then choking horribly in the playoffs, it was, like every two or three years, they'd be like, well, now the captain is Marlow now. We're taking it away from him. Now it's Rob Blake. Now rob lake's now show Thornton. We're taking it away from Joe Thornton house Marlowe again, we're taking it away. It was like every two or three years. Someone new somebody new, and they finally shed their reputation as chokers. They finally became you know, a c-, quote unquote serious contender whatever, and now they're looking like they may lose pavilion, ski and if they bring Marlowe back and honestly, just from a PR business amp. Can't imagine why they would. LA kings on the clock. By the way, picking one nineteen we will update that in a moment. I just think it would be fantastic, if Marlowe left the sharks and then came back building win a Cup and they have a new, I just it would it would every time the sharks, do something say is this. The shark is thing that they could possibly do the kings, picking Kim new scene. And at one nineteen defenseman good job on the pronunciation name you can barely read right now defense Kim it looks like new seen a nice job obvious. They are the saga that kick, but they are very good team. And all they are pretty good goaltending is questionable. But they're still a quality team unless they lose guys. Well, I hated the the Carlson contract, I think everybody outside there were going to Asian hates the Carlson contract. Just too many years for a guy who's at his age with the injury history. Got an injury this year with a groin just had surgery. So it's just another one ad list. I, I understand why they gave it to them. I think they want to be. In contention right now. And they're trying to win a Cup right now and he probably does help them right now. But when it comes to down the road, I think they're really gonna hate that contract from year, maybe four or five on the other big trade today as we go around the league with the big trades that have happened. So for Tampa Bay trading JT Miller to Vancouver. It's Vancouver team that is stocked with young talent young prospects with Brock Besser and Elias Patterson. And now yet JT Miller is only twenty six to that group. Looks like they gave up very little just a couple of draft picks. Not a first round pick involved. I don't believe so just picks for him, maybe it was a conditional. I, I have to look at that deal again, but regardless you bring JT Miller guy, you probably can have in that organization for a few years. I like the way that, that organization is taking shape. It, it still early for them. And they're still very much rebuilding. But they had a good year, a year, I thought they took a nice step forward. Didn't wanna make an a playoffs but still nice step forward for them. They weren't playoff contention for a long time. And they have those young studs to pretty good team Travis. Screen is on a really good job. Yeah. In vancouver. And I think he might be a little bit underrated. I don't think he gets the obviously they didn't finish well, but, but considering the pieces he hasn't placed there. It seemed feels to me like he's a little bit underrated as a coach. We'll see what happens in the next couple years, once these guys really start to develop Pedersen's only gonna get better. There's only gonna get better. My question. There is. Okay. You bring JT Miller with goaltending situation, which is which is a big question Mark in Vancouver right now. And there's only so much you can do about that. But that's your team goes as your goaltender goes. So if you don't have the goaltender good luck, but one of the, you know, we talked about the timing and how important is this is one of those off-seasons where goaltending is going to be available. Sure, right. Whether it's Bobrovsky or one of the guys from Carolina or the guy from Colorado who's named Varlamov you know, could be Jonathan quick. Like they're going to be opportunities for Mike Smith. Maybe. Yeah. Fans stage that is that is Colorado team by the way that is going to be very dangerous. My goodness. Ideally, they wind up drafting Bom Byrom with the number four overall, pick MacArthur, they already have Macara, and it looks like those two on the blue line for years to come. And we know how deep they are all fence up front a tremendous. Now they need some more depth beyond that second line. They split up the first line, so that they can add depth to their subsequent lines and that worked out. Okay. Actually for them. And we saw how good they were in the playoffs. But if they can find some more depth than scoring, and they have sole much cap space as I was saying at the beginning of the show, next to the New Jersey Devils, they were pretty much one to neck and neck and cap space available. Colorado actually had the most in the league. So they can go out. They already added Bom Byrom. And now they can go get some free agents. And if they can hit on a couple of free agents all baby. Look out in Colorado, for many, many years. That's going to be a good Jim. Very good. Very good. Team any love what Joe Sacic is done there. Go ahead, Jesse. I just really briefly want to touch on the, the idea of, of good management, because there's a lot of teams I think they get labeled as you know, good franchises. The do everything. Right. And Nashville's been one of them, Columbus has been do not as been one of them and I only bring it up because there's always these there to your point. They're sorta PK sue van of, of franchises, right where people keep talking about the Hoover. No, no. But I'm saying Nashville in Columbus, they get all this all this run. But they never they never do anything. Yeah. Right. So I just wanted to hockey, DB tweeted this out at Ryan Suter share Weber PK sue Ben and Seth Joan have been turned into Ryan Johannesen Steven Santini Jeremy Davies and second round picks. That's the national credit so. I kind of I've, I think I might be done with Nashville. In terms of I think they, they are quickly sliding into the area Zona slash Edmonton Oilers. That's not go so far as put them in that category. But the playoff versions of those teams where like for five or six years now for years, they had berry trots and the best coach in the league. And, you know, Poile always a great GM and blah, blah, blah, blah. Now we're looking at the window possibly slamming shut on national traded lead, traded van, because, you know, and now there's rumors that they might signed Shane which button hooks me back to Columbus, which is what is what is Shane, listen? I've listen to interviews with me. Sounds like a good kid. It's not his fault obviously that his career hasn't gone probably as well as you'd like. But there's just teams that keep acquiring the same fistful guys. I keep hearing how great they are. And how well run they are. And so you're saying that the king should take an opposite approach of what you're seeing in Nashville. I'm just saying there's thirty one teams they can't all be magnificent. And you see, there's just this tweet that showed you, these four players are now playing for different teams guys. They've gotten back are. Kim Kim new sign. And by the way, or new sane, we say was new sane. What are we going with? CNN. CNN just information on him. He is from Finland. I've got them listed a five nine hundred seventy pounds played for kalpa junior in Finland. So he was picked number one nineteen in the fourth round for the LA kings. And if I'm not mistaken. Let's take a look at the picks for the fifth round that they have, but they initially had these second pick in the fifth round. But I believe they traded that they did. So Montreal now is the fifth pick in the second round. The kings do not pick again for quite some time. In fact, I don't believe they have another fifth round pick if I'm not mistaken. So it'll be up until round six that we will see the kings, again the second pick in the sixth round and they have the second pick in the seventh round. So the kings are at least at the moment, not going to be on the clock in the round that is currently being drafted up in Vancouver, one more segment for us twenty more minutes if you wanna get your calls in talk kings, eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero. Again, to get hit us up on Twitter as well. At king's men podcast, rob. Renner div, Joseph, Jessica talking all things kings, all things draft. Trades. That happened today. Again opening it up. Eight seven seven five zero eleven fifty back after this with you about seventeen four minutes if you want to get the calls in eight seven seven five two zero one one five zero call in. Anna who online was in your right hand your absolute making fun of Jesse for not bringing the bagels and said he had no excuse. I agree with David, I are both hungry while at least I'm Ongeri David is burrito. So you won't me something after we're done anyway, the kings, not on the clock again in this route. So this gives us a good opportunity just to recap. Everything that's happened. So far for LA. If you didn't hear the beginning of the show, or I guess, I our Alex Turcott joined us, thank goodness. He did because it was tremendous to get to talk to the young man. I'm really glad that, that happened and really just confirmed. Everything I saw yesterday from him on television when he was doing his interviews post draft picks election time when he you know, basically said, look, I'm I'm a guy who has a lot of confidence in my game, and I'm gonna go out and do my best at university. Wisconsin prepare myself for the NHL, and he kind of confirmed that with us and great talking to him. And great job again, by kings PR to get us. The Alex Turcott interview we've also mentioned that Bjorn fought when second in the first round for LA number. Twenty two overall six foot one hundred ninety three pound left handed shot defensemen out of Sweden who is going to play again for Djurgarden again in. I forgot what town it was. I saw earlier today they was Stockholm. Pretty sure for Djurgarden. So he'll play for them again. And the kings went up taking in the second round Arthur Kelly ever right wing, six to one ninety four seventeen year old at one hundred and two points played for Hamilton and the OH L this year, the kings wind up trading up to take Samuel Fayyum. Oh, so phone or that's actually how you pronounce it is the again. From my pronunciation, saw fog. Yes out mile fog imal, and by the way, for those listening that Jesse is playing that clip off of the NHL draft official website, leap prospects. So if you want information on all these guys, and you wonder how to pronounce their names Samuel Fayyum, oh, I was waiting for to play it again. Oh, all right. I said his name this phone call. Okay, if you want play the rule of threes, that is I pronounce his name, and the kings wound up trading a couple of picks second rounder in a fourth rounder to move up to number fifty to select which can I have been real quick? I think is great. Right. Because they had two first round picks a second and two thirds and, you know, there's all of these, you can find him everywhere, graphs that show the expected value of draft picks over time and it and it's a pretty steep decline to go ahead and jump up to sacrifice a third, and what are we say, a fourth or fourth, I believe you. I think that's exactly the kind of move you wanna make to wind up with two first round picks in two second round picks in what is considered a relatively deep draft. I'm that's exactly the kind of move. You wanna see from your from your front office? Absolutely. They have dented a guy that they liked one of the scouts obviously liked or more than one and they wanted to picking him. So he went number fifty overall, Lucas parak- will soon the that's how you say you can play his pronunciation his. Not listed on the is that, right? Yeah. He goes number eighty seven overall in the third round goaltender from the Czech Republic. Six four hundred eighty five Pounder fourth round the kings two selections. They took Jordan, Spence defensemen Atta Canada played for Moncton in the cwm J shell five ten hundred seventy seven hundred he went number ninety five overall. That was the second pick in the fourth round. And then with the twenty sixth pick in the fourth round, number one nineteen Kim new sane, or something similar to that. Kim knew sane Finland defenseman played for kalpa junior, five nine one hundred seventy pounds Knowles the I in. Well, there you go. No, I say his name, I never going to do it other episode without this. You can't thank goodness for that website because I butchered his name, and now I found out no seen in his actually how you say that. Dave write that down. Nose shannon. So the kings, fifth round pick as of right now. They have a pick in the six pick in the seventh number one fifty seven number. One eighty eight respectively. So we will wait and see one of the cool things about this draft guys. It watch it on TV and everybody really pays a lot of attention in the first round, of course. And then I think you get the subtle hockey fan that says, you know what it Saturday. I'm not really gonna pay all that much attention. But if you are, and you're at home watching it's one of the only drafts were most, if not all of the kids show up, even if you're a guy who's projected to be in the sixth round seven three and they're all there and they wanna hear their name called, and they want to wear the suit and walk up and shake, everybody's hand and beyond stage with jersey, taking pictures. I love it because in the NBA half the kids don't show up, especially if they're not projected going to first round and fell same thing. They don't show up in major league baseball. Same thing even though they're doing it in a beautiful studio. Secaucus New Jersey, MLB network television. A lot of the kids just don't want to be there for whatever reason this is a dream come true for every single one of them to hear their name. And I just love the fact that these hockey kids appreciate it so much, and their families do. That they fly all the way out there from all over the world to be at this draft to hear the name called. I think it's special. I'm curious gonna get way off topic for a second here because the NBA draft was earlier this week. Why does the NBA draft only have two rounds far fewer players on a roster of another that twelve guys on MBA team compared to twenty? Yeah. In the NHL. Well, there's seven rounds in the NHL draft. Okay. Saying you're saying the NBA could afford. Here's the reason that they can't there isn't a developmental league necessarily, except for the NBA g Lee. Yeah, that's it. They need to fix this. So where do you sit? Well, that that's the reason because they don't have teams to send them to. There's no age L. Plus, you know, OH one hundred Mark is in not put him anywhere. Right. I mean as far as I'm concerned, it's the only thing drafting has left anymore, is that it's just good television, right? Like, yeah, yeah, we're content I suppose. This year because the pipe it up so much that this is the year. They were going to be so many trades. And there have been as turned out, it just came a day late and the salary cap may have something to do with that, apparently, they still haven't figured out what the ceiling is going to be yet initially was going to be a hundred and eighty three million. And now some of the reports are one hundred eighty two and a half million I may be off by a million bucks here there. But that's really what the projections are. And people are saying that the, the half million dollars is making a huge difference for these general managers that they're holding back because. Well, you know what? Now, we don't know if we can afford player X, so we're not gonna make a trade right now until we know. And so maybe that held it up a little bit yesterday. Ultimately the dam broke and lots and lots of traits happened today, at least early on haven't seen much as of last hour, to, but maybe something will come in here as of late, but getting back to the point about the draft. I, I do think that this is one of the more special if not deebo special draft. And I know nationally, especially in America, it doesn't get the pub that the other ones do. That's just hockey as a whole. It's the way it goes. It's not as big and in the United States says it is in Canada, and some other countries. So maybe that's part of it. But if you watch the draft again, I think it's pretty cool to see all the kids show up all the kids be part of all the families, and it's running a unique way. And especially on day one. When you have a lot of the former players, it's the dean twins came out at the very beginning of the draft. I thought that was a genius move. Great whoever. I mean, we've, we've sort of jokingly suggested in the past that the Bettman should surround himself with people or things that can't possibly be booed. But I said it on Twitter yesterday, and I will continue to say it. Booing Gary Bettman is the greatest tradition. The NHL has. And I don't understand. I agree with. I don't understand people who don't like it. And the fact that he embraces it was is what makes it twice as much fun, right? Even last net he could be internally, just a little annoyed but he doesn't even act like I think he does to loves it. I just can't believe the Rangers with the number two pick didn't bring up Mark Messier. Yeah. Maybe Mark after tour of duty in Vancouver. I guess I knew this somewhere in my brain. But seen his his jersey hanging in the rafters. Yeah. House a stretch. Hey very short drink over. Yeah. I didn't notice that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he played for them for very. Yeah. Did not it might still be getting paid at the end. Yeah. All right. So let's get into direction of the franchise over last nine minutes or so here before we sign off for the day. So we know the draft picks. We just talked about all them. We know the fact that the kings are near the top of the salary cap space that they have available and probably not gonna make a huge move, if there is going to be a move, though, maybe goaltender the direction, they have three goalies right now who are all capable playing at the NHL level. Maybe we see a move there. Otherwise, where do you think the kings, go from here as free agency gets ready to kick off in about a week nowhere? I've been saying this for months, I don't expect the roster to really change that much. I actually almost began raising my voice at a couple of people in the press box late in the season because they were talking about. Half yelled to them. What I've been yelling anyone will tolerate me who's gonna who's gonna go right? Because it's it's very simple to say, like I said earlier. Yeah, let's trade a second round pick for Carlson. Okay. Great. But Santa's never going to do that. So there's not a real conversation, which got a tweet from Billy puck follower. He called us when we did the draft lottery show in his question was as forgiving, the youth opportunities next season, don't they need to move to make room then he lists, the forward lines co Petar Brown. And I follow campy, Cova, Chuck into Foley, Carter Lewis and Clifford, assuming the grunts in Wagner's regulars. That's one open spot. So he's question was isn't this missed opportunity for not getting a trade done of the draft will, you're not Trading cO? Petar. You're not trading Brown follows a restricted free agent, I suppose you could trade him. But you're no. And even if you did you'd be getting somebody who would probably make more money than him. And he's one of the brighter spots. Anyway. And cambay. You're not gonna trade campaign unless it's as parter larger patches. Geping. Great. You can't necessarily find anybody who wants to take Kovalchuk off your hands. Maybe they could trade to Foley, but I don't wanna trae Foley just to trade him because he's still there only sort of mid level player with any who, who there's some promise there. Yeah, it's still be threat, or he could also still have value, Clifford and Lewis. I don't sure you could trade them so that you opened up a spot. But for where do you find guys like yeah. And do I really wanna have Clifford out lineup so that we can play another guy like Matt left eight minutes night, and sorta stunt his growth, when we could have them all in Ontario? And then Jeff Carter. Look, we don't know whether Esab Jeff Carter's career is gonna look like maybe his bum season last year was due to the injury. Maybe it was a chemistry issue. Maybe it was just the entire team having down season. We have no idea, but you can't just wave your magic wand, and say. Woman trae Jeff Carter because you have to find somebody who's trained. Yeah. And and and they're very few teams out there who are looking to take on a question, Mark at, at thirty four years old with that kind of money. That's not to say that they that there's no teams that nobody would even consider it. It's just you're asking team to take a gamble on your guy, and then defense wise, obviously, you know, forward Martinez dowdy, and then a bunch of kids. So your point about the goalies the big question, then becomes, what is the trade value of Jonathan quick versus what is the actual value of, of losing? That's a weird sentence. But. His compete his fight his professionalism. He's obviously still very passionate. If you trade him, you are losing all of that. And I'm not saying that they never should where they shouldn't consider it. I'm just saying you don't actually know the impact of a loss like that. So to do it just so it's done. You know, this sort of my hesitation with buying Dionne, Vanessa to do something like that, just to do it, and just to end the conversation and just move forward. There is value in that, but you have to weigh the value versus what you're gonna lose. So I don't I anticipate the Jack Campbell is probably the most likely member of this team to be traded just because he's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year. Calpeda sin is a restricted free agent. You're probably not gonna sign him to a friendly deal without the promise that a spot opens up for him. And you can't be sure that you can move on quick. So I'm sorry for rambling so long. But that is that is. I don't expect there to be many changes and the few that get made. I think we've pretty small do you like the direction Dave, where they're going not necessarily where they are right now? I don't think anybody loves where they are right now. But at least the direction seems to be there that they have a focus they avenue coach in place. They have new prospects now coming into the pipeline after the draft the last couple of days that we all like, for the most part, I think everybody loves their prospects right now. They also already have prospects in the chain that seemed to have a lot of promise that we're gonna see their during the. Elemental camp next week. So it looks like there's some some hope for the future and not too distant future for this team. The direction I do like it a lot. And I think as long as there's a plan in, in the stick to the plan, which everything indicates that they will. I think they're in a real good spot right now and I would say three years, you're looking at the team to be back in the playoffs and being a serious contender because it's going to take a couple years before all these guys kind of jell together, the some of these contracts are up players move on some of the veteran players, the young kids will take in take effect, and they'll, they'll slide into the roster spots away. They should you mentioned the guys that they picked up this year. The turcotte's these other guys that they picked up in the first round second round, and then the guy's the Kapar is in and, and the Jared Anderson Dolan's in the velocities, hopefully over the next couple years, those kids are really gonna start to develop and I think with the way the game is going with the speed with the youth. I think it's this is going to be a really good team. Three to five years from now. You could be looking at a team that's contending for another Stanley Cup and hopefully sooner than that. You just never know how things work out. And like Jesse said earlier, maybe there's an opportunity where year from now, you jump in on somebody, who's maybe being let go by an organization, just because they can't afford them under the cap and the kings may have a friendlier cap situation, or they make a trade that you don't know about things can happen, especially in a league with such competitive balance where you can jump from being the worst team in your conference to be in a playoff contender. I think very very quickly and you get some big anchors on his team to that, that leaders who have big contracts go Petar, the Doughty's guys like that who are going to be here for a number of years, that are going to really solidify this team, but injecting that youth is going to be the key to making this team. Very good for years to come. I think they've got a lot of good players in the pipeline ready to go and Tom McClellan is going to be the conductor that will drive train all the sudden now Jesse you've got a guy who has the experience who has the weight in the room, who's probably gonna motivate and motivation is a big part of what went wrong for this team. They're the first to admit it all the players did the entire. Off-season. They've been talking about it. It was all about lack of motivation at the end. I don't think that's going to be the case at the beginning next season. If it is, then there's a serious problem that is way bigger than any of us know how to deal with. Well, then put it out players to go right at that point. If next season in any way shape form resembles the season we just finished. Like I said, there's a problem that is bigger than I can even wrap my head around because I think you can I think last season, is it was it was unexpected. It was a bummer. It wasn't a ton of fun. But what if you take a if you pull back and take a bigger look at the, the whole picture, it's not totally inexplicable. Right. They, they fire their GM and coach two seasons ago. Two guys that had won them. Two cups, two guys that a lot of the players were still emotionally attached to the organization shifted, right? The tone of the organization, shifted and last season was, you know. He caught up to them. So this season things will be better if they can't, they can't not be. They can put it that way. That's absolutely right. Few people to really quickly might not want or today. Here we appreciate that much in the studios, Larry great job, as always appreciate that, again, kings PR for getting us Alex Turcott, and thanks to Alex himself first round pick. The kings came on with us for a good ten minutes. It was a great interview. Thank you outs. Looking forward to seeing you in a kings uniform very, very soon for Dave for Jesse. I'm rob hope you enjoyed the show kings fans as Jesse said it's going to be better things to come. No question about it's been a good weekend for the L, A kings. Excellent draft for them, so far and come on down to the developmental camp Thursday, six PM. If you can watch the scrimmage all week long, they're going to be here on the ice at the Toyota sports center, have a great rest of your Saturday, we'll see next time and all the king's men live.

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What's the Chinese cronies Guy Friend Finley friend of mine? Steve is a pet bad boy. I'll give you this. You are an equal opportunity. Macher doc. Mock yeah that's fair okay. I'LL UH whenever you're about to X.. Something out what I say. Steve Think of Saturday night. Right live okay and you'll this is fine. This is fine the stuff they do. Think of the Howard Stern show. Imagine Steve If you have to edit that at the stuff that's crazy easy. I've I maintain. He is one of the best interviewers alive But he still even though he's very much matured over the years from fart man and some of the crappy used to do that was was pretty base. he's still dabbles in some pretty adult themes shall we say oh total totally When he wasn't the original shock radio guy it was it was don imus right? I think I think he was an absolute clown by the end. That Guy Yeah. He became he became goofy at the end of carried. A gun and shit like that he was but but his stuff was really funny. If you listen to some of his old shows And the stuff they said and did was just priceless. It was absolutely priceless And so he's sort of started this politically incorrect on stuff on radio on terrestrial networks and stuff. And Howard took it to the next level but David Letterman right. My next guest. Whatever that show show is that letterman? Does something like that. Next guest is or Letterman. Signed a multi billion dollar deal to net flix interviews with guys and he did Howard awards stern and it was interesting. How he's got totally interesting? Life talks about his family's relationship with children You know his whole story sorry of of how he got into it and his whole his whole take on what he does and why he does it and it's good check it out. Yep He's really good. I mean he's just so real and he's at a stage now where he's I don't know if he's happy to cash checks if he has any passion left for the show or not or if he just wants the people around him like Robin and the rest of the cast Wants to keep them rolling or whatever it is but He and he just seems like a UH reluctant radio guy at this stage of the game. But maybe that's part of what makes them good. You just doesn't give a shit right right. Well he was the sort of biggest show in town in New York when he did his like. Was that a New York accent. That was New York a New York New York Chinese guys in New York New York. Okay listen stirring hat on stuttering John or whatever his name wasn't I wouldn't say that's funny as that guy that actor guy he's like no no actually stutters and even further than that. He had a guy on but anyway during nine eleven apparently the coverage Stern was so well connected. You know he'd he'd he had so many contacts radio show That he was going going around the city right when it was happening and had people weighing in on this thing and calling in live And it ended up being this unbelievable unbelievable moment around New York City that I don't know if that tape is still around that he did but oh I'm sure they're constantly running replays of things. I'm sure they have a vast archive and I doubt that I doubt anything happened that he's got he's got a relatively new book. That's been out. I think at least a year now but He came to him with a obviously a boatload of money. And One guy from some publishing house said don't don't worry about it. We'll be right the whole the thing. We'll give you a big Jack. And he's like all right fine and then he read the book and he say he read the book and he's like Oh. This is terrible. I know I and he ended up having to write the book himself And it's called Howard comes again so even in the title. He can't resist juvenile thing. But it's quite it's basically all his interviews that he's done biggest interviews perfect. I didn't know that I'm going to get that book. Get like our. Let's get to the matters at hand and why don't we start with Alex Ovechkin. So this is Alex. Of course who now has a Stanley Cup ring and he was criticized for a long time for being that Kinda Guy. That's eight more concerned about the goals than team success. But in his heart he's always wanted to Stanley only couple. That came a couple of years ago and he wasn't shy to share his take on what's wrong with the Toronto Maple leafs and it's ironic because well L. Buddy saying about the leafs is what people said about him for about a decade For them you know they still is still younger. Guys in the hub. They'RE GONNA learn but again It's it's up to them how they want to do here and They want to play for herself. OR IF THEY WANNA win for If the Winston Cup after play differently so there's Alex ovechkin implying heavily that the leafs are playing like a bunch much of individuals plan for themselves somewhat selfish. I guess when you get right down to it I'm reading between the lines now and throw it selfish but what do you think about a superstar like that chiming in on. What's wrong with another team? You don't see that very often. No I what I'd never could pick up on to be honest with. You is unless it's a street hockey game. When I used to play is how players are playing playing selfishly in the NHL? I don't understand it. You know other than Shit off the ice. You know where the guys late for practice or stories. You know Sultan when he doesn't get ice time shit like that or or you know putting with the coaches that selfish but but during play I just. I'm not good enough at breaking down a hockey game to understand what selfish players example. If you want or you're sorry I interrupted. Go ahead well until you start. I it sort of trend this year. Steve with guys rippin guys. That's that's funny. Bring this up about a lovie weighing in on Toronto. Saying they're playing too much individually which is of course another way to say this selfish and yet we've had two or three incidences and there's another one. We can talk about later on where players are ripping their own players. Was it couture the last guy to do it about overtime thing. And he said his his just two of his teammates stayed on the ice too long. It was La Bank and LA- bank and Meyer. were out there too long and it was they finally come off. But while while the pucks Clinton the in the wrong direction so couture and Joe Thornton come off the bench to relieve these two guys just in time to see the other team score the winning goal and Logan Logan Couture Certainly wasn't appreciative of that and went to the media with it. Yeah so I guess that's what he's talking about. It's it like I said it seems seems to be the the topic Du Jour here in the first month. The hockey Guy Stone each other under the bus and then in terms terms of bring in terms of playing for yourself versus playing as a team guy a good example of that would be like what you just talked about. Logan Couture And and what his dialogue was but another one would be along the lines of. There's a fifty fifty puck along the boards and maybe a skill guy who's only focused focused on his stats. Maybe he blows out of the defensive zone thinking that he's Buddies GonNa win. That fifty fifty puck gambling that he'll do the habit and then it doesn't happen and then all of a sudden you're short handed in your own zone. You know. This guy takes five or six strides before he realizes. Oh Oh my my boys lost and now you're in an odd man situation and goals scored on you as a result but just little moments like that in games where guys aren't in contain mode. They're more in. I'm just GONNA I was going to fly on out of here and maybe get the jump on the other team and it works sometimes But it can also come back and bite you in the ASS. You know what's going to happen here here Steve. What's it? I got a feeling I got a feeling with lovie weighing in on another team negatively. Okay lots of guys will weigh in on the oilers. Rake on the teams unbelievable. The gone on they've got these two guys. Were you know. Dry Settling O'Connor Connersville I always call him O'Connor Connor mcdavid so that's not uncommon. That guys will talk about other teams in a positive light on. These guys are good. You know we don't take them lightly and all that Shit Some people are starving for the rivalry. Steve Shred because we talked a little while ago that is waning right. The rivalries are out you. Don't there's not much going on on could you imagine if you're maple leaf Steve. Toronto Maple Leaf and you wake up this morning and you flip on lovie telling me me and my team what we're doing wrong. I would be freaking livid right I would be like shut your hole dude. Shut your. You're freaking hole about our team as a player. But maybe we'll generate this rivalry the single growth. This thing. These comments will grow. But but that's all rivalry start no question and other thing that starts. Rivalries is Tom Wilson. He's running around a little bit in the capital's leafs game last night and Jake Muhsin Muhsin anti-sinn Berry Were both dinged up from his antics. I think Lee fans got a little crazy on social media calling him the devil. Tom Wilson but I think it was just a case of a big guy finishing checks and as he does so the player tries to get out of the way and so those kind of tangled up effect in both cases one of them. I thought I'm Berry might have been a little late but nothing. 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So we're talking about lovie not really ripping the team but but weighing in which because mistake nick although it. Hopefully it'll cost this rivalry love but it's not the first guy now stevie. This seems to be the trend. You and I've been talking about this now a lot and we're not alone. Steve from the files of Yahoo Sports. This is happening more and more kings coach. Todd McLellan rips players following a loss to the blackhawks. Allow me to read from it a bit the early stages of twenty nine thousand nine hundred. NHL Season has seen a number of instances where coaches or players of thrown individuals under the bus stevie performance. We're only a week even when the Jason is it sucker. Jason Zucker I. I didn't know this on Bruce. Boudreau media circus of miscommunication went down one. That sucker later apologized for after singling out the Minnesota wild head coach while discussing his team's initial struggles. Then the San Jose Sharks Captain Logan Couture sure shredded his teammates. Meyer and La Bla right. A team o'meara Kevin will blah for selfish. Play the bank there. It is again Steve. That's twice with those two situations. were fantastic for fans to sink into todd. McLellan recent comments about the play is Los Los Angeles Kings. Maybe the best yet and I quote I think this road trip was good because let Because it let known that there's some players that probably can't play in the league right now. Boycott McLaughlin said during his media availability following a five one loss the blackhawks at the United Center and Sunday. So maybe we'll have to make some changes. There are some veterans that really have to pick up their play. We'll have to have a chat with them. Nice wow nice yeah well. We saw it here in Ottawa. To is out here in Ottawa. To with Bobby Ryan getting scratched right. These are coaches that are holding ending their players accountable contract damned. Yeah McLaughlin. Didn't call out anyone by name. But both his frustrations that message loud and clear. Now the kings really have to listen because this isn't the first time he's expressed these types of thoughts some of the players that I think we've counted on or we need to count don't have to play a lot better or they don't belong in a league that a boy that was another. He said after a two loss to Vancouver on October ninth only stirred regular season game his head coach. Nice TV Nice Nice. I absolutely love it. I mean I think it's going to why it's happening. Well I think it's a coaches are in a position where they need to do. What's best for the team and less about you know 'cause it's been a thing for a long time where you know if a guy's got a big big contractors this thing well we gotta play them because it'd be pretty embarrassing we don't it's almost like now there's an override? That's happening right now and again Bobby Ryan things good example of it. If you're not going I don't care what you make. You're going to the Press Fox. The needs to be some accountability here. And it's not just a pay to get you to straighten up and fly right. It's about the tone it sets through the rest of the lineup if somebody's out there and he's not producing it in NHL level and he's still getting starts. How does that play with the rest of the team? What does that say about your commitment to winning hockey games it it It can fester and it can wreck a-team psyche. And so- coaches are. I think clamping down on that stuff doesn't matter what your contract is. You're not automatically automatically guaranteed a spot anymore just because you're dealing with a massive massive amount of money coming your way. Yeah that's my theory. Well I think yeah. WHOA WHOA? That's the obvious right. What you're talking about is obvious often when players are playing very well? You know anyone who knows how to look at a hockey game. What never what happens is is a guy going public about it but it's not? It's not like it never happens. We hear from time to time. But now we've heard this three or four four-times for you know about different teams. Yeah the public part in. But he's certainly a club and be heaviest. Sorry go ahead so the public part of is what I'm saying is is dad. That's definitely a newish trend For the most part you don't necessarily see them calling guys publicly by name we gotta be better. It's usually if we see any ransom the coaches it's usually a collective and now they're naming names while we're this guy took it to the next level in todd is when he says that that's fine. You know some of our players. The veterans are doing what they do doesn't name names but when he gives it the they don't deserve to play in the league. Jesus Nice definitely no players might players might if you go on. Maybe you're coaching is shitty. Or they mean. Well that's the balance you have to have. When you're a coach right you have to? And then I never understood how guys could be coaches and GM's on the one hand you've got to bring the players mentality into a place of confidence influence and positively. Then you're all on the same time you're the GM and you're part of your job is to say you're not worth what you're asking so that I always found that to be a a difficult balanced and I. I always wondered how guys were able to pull that off successfully. But there's no question these coaches today. They have a a difficult time with. I mean it's natural to To want to get everybody in the right head space but at the same time. I'm whole guys accountable. It's easily it's so easy to become a hated man overnight. Yeah totally totally anyway love it. I like okay. I like it just like an article a few minutes ago where this is some for fans to sink their teeth into. It's like here. We go lovely all right. Here's one to sink your teeth into. It's the RB computing web poll. As I mentioned before the break. You would do it respectfully of course but who in the NHL Right now who is the NHL Player. Today you'd most like to punch in the face I'll let you think about it for a second and go to our twitter poll at TSN Steve. Lt writes back in the day. Was Darcy Tucker occur by a mile but today if Brad Marchand is the top of your list then you're wrong Silva Godin says can I say no one has man. I'm like five eight. I get my shit kicked in by ninety nine percent of the might say I don't hate anyone per se but Matt Cook is a weasel. I'd be sorely tempted there. Dan Kings braces. Brad Marchand de nfl twice as no doubt Matt from tall can audio says players or maybe commissioners. There's only one of those xbox candidates to pick one because I'd pick crosby punch him in the face because he annoys me. Brad Marchand though because just look at them. Jason Fortius sloppy the second guy. Fifteen years ago Sean. Avery and young Max Domi now. Scots brand did that to him in the preseason lot of Austin Matthews in here as well well Chris Kunitz getting some love for what he did to the sense in the playoffs in. Oh seven and twenty seventeen and let's see here Nazem Kadri then Matthews. But I wouldn't punch mooner Matthews. I would pull that thing under his nose off and thank you for all your commentary today. What people what people gotTA stop in your hearing it less than less? I'm surprised that someone brought it up is I have heard almost one hundred percent of the time from retired hockey players and Active players they. They're singing the praises says of the Commissioner Gary. Bettman what he's done for the League how he's handled collective bargaining agreements etc etc.. You know I I. I don't hear too many bad things about the commission so when I do hear it I kinda WANNA ask why. Why is the Commissioner Bet? Why does you know it was sorta became sexy to boot? Boo the commissioner when it comes on the ice to present trophies or stuff like that but yeah including Vegas Right let the Vegas is you know brand new to the league and I think it was. They didn't win the COPPA date. They won when the Western title might have been Batman that presented. I'm not sure but rate at the gate. They're booing him. It was like why they the league like I don't get it. Yeah I don't get it. You know he's done. He's done great things you know. I agree I agree with all these guys. No no one says too much bad about that commissioner. In fact they sing sing his his like. I said the praise this guy wholeheartedly for what he's done so well. I mean the playoffs. Taking more than they ever the players are making more than they ever have in. The owners are making more than they ever had. So those who are employed in those roles of course thrilled with Gary Bettman men but the it's the fan base right. The fan base is being asked to pay more than ever before. And you have a commissioner who routinely thinks. It's cool did not cool. Well I mean he's not happy with it but but routinely use it uses it as a bargaining tool to absolutely shut down the game and so I think that's where it comes from with the fans not to mention you know Quebec Winnipeg you know we saw those teams Moving out there. Those markets obviously have a lot of bitterness. But yeah I mean I think it just became fashionable in the rest of the NHL just distal boom an ethics largely because of the lockout situations the men. What three now? There have been kind of standard issue. You know the only reason I would want to punch Gary Bettman in the face is I was at a hockey game in Toronto. uh-huh sit sit with the great one in whatever boxer sitting beside him Bettman was there came into the box with the big entourages and he walked down the stairs right away and tapped me on the shoulder. Gave me the get out of there. Oh yeah yeah like beat it. I gotTa talk to wait like an excuse me Hope you don't mind like get hit the road. Well it's probably probably a political thing you know because the cameras going to be on them and you know to be seen. He's chatting with lane all that stuff but anyway when I when I ask ask people about it or I hear about it or eavesdrop about the commissioner. It's all it's all pretty positive from everybody so well thanks to all the good listeners for giving their take John who they'd like to punch in the face it's good to hear that there's Some feistiness at their and of course that's our pull brought to you by RB computing. The guys that are be competing one dimension that the new third gend. AMD reisen processors are now available for shipping. They've got precision boost overdrive and customize performance with one click these new. AMD PROCESSORS THIS IS KICK ASS TV boy. So if you need an upgrade or a new custom visit the guys that are be computing in bells corners. One Oh six Dash 235 three five met in place got her. You've done it again. Well done Kind of a couple of funny things about The World Series first of all in game five Sunday those a fan that Basically out in the outfield and A and Houston hits home run on and he basically he. He's he takes the ball because he's right over the Centerfield wall first row and he takes the ball off his chest like a soccer soccer player. Might so to not get his hands involved. Imagine that wouldn't feel particularly good. Ball calmly drives his feet and he had himself a home run ball and the reason that he didn't use his hands was because he was double fisting a couple of tall boys. He didn't drop either of the beer's didn't spill either and still ended it up with a world series home run ball and when they interviewed him afterward he basically said well. It didn't hurt that much because it was not very well. Hit wasn't very hard hard because it came from the opponent the Houston Astros. That's cool. That's funny either. I didn't see that I didn't see that. And then there's that mattress store you. Are we talking about right the match historian and before we get these gags right there. PEOPLE DO I don't know maybe think of it. The Guy Backfire and take get off the chest and then probably ended up with a cracked sternum for some bad idea. The old I haven't seen it longtime Steve I saw last year somewhere Bunch of people were drunk out of their mind at an event and the guy reached down while the guy was standing there and tied both his shoes together. Oh okay have have you ever seen this sure. It's it's funny until the guy tries to walk away and face plans hard. Okay yeah imagine anyway. Yeah it's always always take face of those sorts of things because you know a like if you're on the ice in the wintertime Y- you're you're mentally in a head space of this could be slippery and get your hands down if you do take tumble because you kinda half expected you ready for sure. It happened with that. And you're like there's no the reason for you to think that you're gonNA take a fall in your first step here. I know I people always saying God GonNa kill me for laughing at the epic fails man when I watch on Youtube. Op Nice One. They're the guys the guy jumping on his skateboard sliding riding down the railing of a staircase and it slips off and he he splits his leg and lands on his bag. You know yeah like yeah love or any Buffalo Bill tailgating situation and if you've seen any of the fans from the Buffalo Bills Games they seem to relish the idea that they're going to end up on some youtube channel title and just doing something Moronic and all the bills fans cheering these guys on this some guy up on top of a roof and there's a folding table right right there but twenty feet below any dives and like he'll either miss it completely and knock himself out unconscious or crash through and break all his ribs or something like that. It's it's it's like weeding the gene pool or something you know I went to in the very very first one the outdoor game the heritage classic was in Edmonton Right. The very first one. They had one on this weekend at fuck. I didn't even know about it I was. I don't know what happened. There was in Regina. NHL Outdoor game. I the only time I ever heard about is when I click the TV on and they were doing a little one hour beforehand. Kind of weird. You know how these things are talk of the town but well. That's where we're at outdoor games. I think that for the average hockey fan unless the game is in your town. It's just another game to you. Yeah yes maybe losses panache a little bit but and with others had the first one years ago and then the next one was in in Buffalo at Buffalo Stadium. Whatever I I was? The one was snowing like crazy with the penguins. Play in that game similar crosby. Maybe he basically was playing tap tap the puck in the air because it was easier to tap the puck in the air while he escaping rather than drag it through the snow. That was all over the is right and that and a lot more that game but I so I got hired For that game too. So they're seventy thousand people steve or eighty thousand people. I don't know how many they can stuff into that rink to watch this game and I was hosting on the jumbotron okay between stoppages and plays and intermissions and stuff like that you know. Huge event was a hell of a gig loved it and I'd never. I'd never been to a tailgate party. Ever you know. Of course I heard about them like everybody else and this was my first one. You can look it up so I was. I was doing some segments also for for Gretzky's website at the time and I hosted a couple of things on NAT I've told people before about the outdoor rink thing. You can look that up that I did a piece and also on tailgating and it's just begs eggs for a bunch of trouble to happen tailgate party. You would think that this thing is going to be a shit show here right. You Know Pe- people getting drunk out of their minds and and you know jumping on top motorhomes and shit like that but this this thing. I was really impressed. It's kind of this highly organized deal The cops are cool. They let people wander around with drinks. They let them bring their drinks into the stadium. They try at one time saying okay finding of the tailgate but we're not allowing booze in while they couldn't control it right so it's okay fuck it. Let's just let people take beers in but they're kind of in three stages Steve These tailgate parties and and the one stage. It's very apparent when you see it is families own okay. So it's mom and dad and their two kids having a little barbeque in the parking lot. Cook and sausages and stuff like that. Well the next one is is a little step up a little bit and guys throwing frisbees around and You know I don't know making a pyramid stack and COP Steve Shit like that right. No no kids okay. No kids maybe some adult teenager kids eighteen ninety well. The the third section Steve is an absolute runaway. Okay it's an absolute runaway. People are getting plowed inside vans. There's there's there's mosh pits going on crazy drinking contests and stuff like that. But so these guys are getting really annihilated and I ended up doing I ended up. Mashing Steve You can again. You could probably look it up on Youtube but tailgate is just a gas absolute gas That was a distraction from what we're talking about me but you know I don't I don't even recall what I ended up asking you about Yeah Anyway we got it was it was it was about was it. NFL asked about the mattress store. That's what it was for them why they end up talking about tailgating. I don't know I think the transition was because I had referenced Buffalo Bills Tailgating at one point or their you know that that would be buffalo And the mattress thing in relation to the world series because I had mentioned that the guy they caught the home run ball caught it with his chest because he was double fisting. Two Tall Boys. Yes and then I transitioned you talkin about another off the page World Series Story About this guy won't a mattress store. Yes so this this deal stevie eighty. It happened a few years ago with a guy owns a mattress store chain. Okay big big chain like they do two hundred million a year in sales in the states and he offered for the Super Bowl anyone who came into one of his stores and bought three thousand dollars or more worth of furniture and mattresses if whoever won the Super Bowl I forget who would have been. I think it's maybe Houston I I don't know who's the Houston Dynamo. When they weren't whoever it was it was new? England was okay so whoever it was that he you know he he. He picked to win the Super Bowl and if they did and you bought three grammar the furniture before the game and that team won you all your furniture for nothing okay and people like what. How can the guy do this? So what he does is only throws that promotion out there. He had his bet so he will he by some sort of insurance against it for starters because I think his original payout in free furniture which happened happened. The team one. He had to everyone free furniture. It was in the tens of millions of dollars of furniture ten eleven twelve fourteen million bucks for the furniture. But but what he did was he lays a really heavy bet himself on the on the team the same team so in this case he's done sounded again this year with that promotion if Houston wins the world series. Anyone who bought the three grammar. The furniture gets it for nothing so what he did is turned around and bet three and a half million on Houston winning the world series. I'm not making that number up by the way. Okay well Houston was a you know. If they won it was a two to one payout if you bet them to win the world series whenever he did that so if Houston wins he gets seven point five million back in on his bat and so obviously all the other people get their wins Winston against him right right they bet on the world series. He's gotTa pay out whatever he does which is more than what he bets but so he always loses four or five million bucks on this deal one way or the the other and UNLESS THEY LOSE right unless if Houston loses then everyone's GonNa pay for their furniture but he also loses his three and a half a million dollar. Bet right if you if you're doing the math so anyway he doesn't make any money directly on it but it turns into Millions who's a dollars worth of sales down the road for so well. I mean you go to your ever average you know major advertising house which I assume that would be the kind of place a guy like that would be looking at and They can come up with creative ideas. They wanted a thirty second commercial or billboards or whatever it is and the results adults of an advertising campaign probably would pale in comparison to what he's done here and here we are in Ottawa and Edmonton. AWW podcast talking about Houston mattress place. Would we be doing that if he came up with. Some clever TV advertisement probably not. Yeah if I learnt one thing in radio it was taught to me or told to me that you know the people think well we're GONNA put a show on. We're we're GONNA do morning show we're going to do a podcast called the Steve. W WE'RE GONNA do whatever. Okay and the the king and Queen of Of The show people think you need this content. You have to be something different you have to. But that's not really the number one thing the the number one thing is who's GonNa who's GonNa Market it. How are we going to let people know? Are People going to find out about this thing. You know. That's the king. The Queen is the content. You know I'm not I'm not making this up some idea but I've heard it time and time and time again that whatever this idea is. That's a fantastic idea about. How are we going to let people know about it and you know to to to sell and make money? So you're right. Your point is so this is a Canadian based podcast. And we're talking about this guy's thing. Yeah in in the states. You know so but you're right about the part that's an interesting topic unto itself Because everybody's listening right now is into podcasts. And that's the reality of it. I think that and I would challenge Jenny. Buddy This podcast I think it's doing well. I think it's it's doing very nicely. And and I think it's a decent quality and then I'll go and look at someone who's got not like hundreds of thousands of people listening to it every day and I think okay this must be in miles and miles above hours in terms of its quality right and then listen to it. It's like no it's not and what they have is massive back backing in in the marketing department. That's a an absolutely huge thing. We'll get there. We'll get there but It's when you don't have that massive backing than in need to do it based on And that analogy but king and Queen. There's no question about that but You can developing develop the the content to a point where it to become a king in this process. Sure sure we need to take a time. We've you've not okay if you have something else no I said ours is the best I go podcast. Go when we come back. We'll get the trivia question in opening day and we'll also talk about some sends notes. It's a kind of quiet week for the sends. 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It is time for Trivia and that's brought to you by Silk Web Solutions Dot COM for all your web design and maintenance needs spin your web with Silk Jim. They've only been five men in the history of time time who have won the Super Bowl game. MVP more than once. Five guys who've done it and I'll tell you right right away. They're all quarterbacks. Let's see how many of them just spinning my web with Silks Nice Nice. Oh Sarah will appreciate that of Sarah Okay so five super bowl. MVP's who've won that award more and once all quarterbacks let's see how many you can get it. I might do okay at this Well they're all famous. Yeah so Tom Brady number number one one. He's won it four times. That's the most Tom Brady. I'M GONNA go with Joe Montana. That's number two. He second with three. Oh I love when I get shit right okay. Tom Brady Joe Montana. I'm going to go. Oh with because I think it's back in the day when they were America's team Roger Staubach a fine guest but no shit Peyton manning close fuck sorry for swearing. It's not Peyton. He wants his brother wanted twice of the giants amazingly. That's the one that's very shocking on their five guys who've done it in Eli did it it to more The John Elway no win a couple. They did but he did not win it twice The detail WANNA say. Terrell Davis may want. I'm not sure or the forty niners good enough that the quarterback nope who replaced based Joe Montana Steve Young but no he did not wait twice. did did Terry Bradshaw Chop went. Yes he did. He won it twice. Terry because of course the steelers won four in a row Terry Bradshaw. It's Eli Manning so so Montana Brady Manning Bradshaw there's one more this is old school the very start there you go bart Starr Art Star. There's five live Tom. Brady Joe Montana Bart Starr Terry Bradshaw. And what are you doing here ally manning those five guys have won a super bowl. MVP VP more than once. So I'm not looking this shit up. Steve I'm not quick enough. Technically to pull this up right. I wouldn't be able to figure out how many of Blah well I trying Ryan choose the lately that for the most part anyway. It's a feel like you have a shot at so that is today Silk Web Solutions Dot COM trivia Couple of things things before we wrap up today and that I want to get some sense notes in here We had a bit of feedback. Because while Bobby Ryan was scratched from that San Jose game on Sunday him and his seven point five million dollar contract and well while he was up in the press box descends went out and had their best game of the year. So so you're wondering you yourself. What is Bobby Ryan? Think of that. And what is DJ. Smith have to say about putting the teams wealthiest player up on the shelf. I here's here's Bobby Ryan with where we are and the the rebuilding in the word that we use all the time. I expect to see young guys in and out all the time and my job is to push them day in and day out but also keep him out of the lineup in that regard right so it's kind of a tough spot but obligated to do right by these guys there's Bobby Ryan generally taking things in stride and now here's DJ Smith on why. He scratched Bobby Ryan. He needs to help us. Offensively needs to help us and the ozone and it needs to help us on the power play and make place You know I think even more power play Score last game I think just the addition of of Logan Browning power play. Thank you anyone watching can see when you got a guy. With patients that can make plays and poise with the PUCK. Like that like he has. You can see it certainly helped applaud and bobby can do that and and we need them to do so. So there's D. J. Smith and so some interesting stuff from both men and not an easy thing to put a guy who is your wealthiest player up in the press box. I mean he is not close like he made seven point five and the next guy. I think it's call in white and Craig Anderson who both meg at four point. Seven their second on the House Fars wealthiest guy so not an easy play but Bobby Ryan and the way he's played so far this year Kinda did make it easy for Dj Smith and he's got to be better still you know. There's a certain amount mount with with all the money with all the expertise with all the coaching with all the knowledge of scouting staff general managers his etc etc Steve. There's a certain amount of luck man when you make moves in hockey whether you believe that or not what if you don't believe it while you're wrong And there's a certain amount of risk that you have to take and and this guy took a huge risk. I think as as a rookie rookie coach. You know as not being very you know things haven't been going that well for the sense and that that is the goat or the hero move man and that that guy did you know and in this case he ends up being a hero for what he did so I like it. I like get like guys that are taking a little chance you know throw throw. She hit up against the win there and see what happens. Yeah and so Lucky lucky yeah I guess but but at the same time people might go bro. Brilliant brilliant move outsmart couple of other things and DJ. Smith is going to do what he wants like. He's going to do what he believes. A lot of people still criticize him for the Scots Sabrin thing We've been talking about him obviously and He's he's not one dimensional as some people are painting being him like he's a fighter and that's wise in the NHL because he has the ability to drop the gloves but he does scape pretty well. He's got a great reaches pretty hard in the pocket for checks hits guys so there's more than just dropping the gloves like let's look at a John Scott for example. I couldn't skate but man could he fight Sabrin on the other hand rings more to the table than Matt but after the game against the sharks it was interesting because Dj Smith stands up in the room and basically tell Scott Sabra and that he can get a house so all kinds of applause from his teammates because to this point Sarah Brin yes he's in the NHL but as we all know while getting to the NHL is difficulty. It's as difficult to stay there. And Sabra got the news from the coach that he can go ahead and get a house so he is here for the foreseeable future. So that's great for him and the other part was that the sense have sent down Philip slap again. That guy must feel like a Yo-yo he's back down to Belleville so as JC Boden and that means almost certainly that some healthy bodies are going to arrive. Artem Anisimov has been out as Rudolph's bowser sweating going to be an excellent player for the sends us picked up in the air. Carlson trade so guys are getting healthy in Ottawa. And so Just close the show of the few sends notes In a pretty quiet week for them as they get ready for the Bruins on Saturday night in beantown any final. It'll thoughts for you today James. Yeah the only the biggest risk anyone ever took steve with me talking about taking a shot here or the goal and where the words of my now ex wife saying I do and that was a leap of faith that Justin Panhandler go back I I appreciate the chance. Oh that's what I think people taking a risk You can count Johnnie now stevie okay. I'm here each and every day. You have not missed a show. I'll say that we always couple there. We just had travel problems but No it's this would not have happened happened back in the

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445: Sens Blow 3-1 Lead and Fall to Jets; Sttzle Injury and Legalized Cross Checking; Mets Fire GM

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445: Sens Blow 3-1 Lead and Fall to Jets; Sttzle Injury and Legalized Cross Checking; Mets Fire GM

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Passenger did the overtime winner. Come back train joe. that's courtesy. Tsn with gordon miller and jamie mclennan disappointing. Finish for the sense for sure. I'd say it's their best all around performance. So far they had that game most of the way to nothing lead a three one lead. They badly outshot the jets and the game. Forty one to twenty eight the jets and pulling their goalie when it's three to get a shot. From the point that bounced in off of sends defenseman brayden coburn and the second-guessers were out there. Gotta say questioning who send put out there for the six on five. And i don't know to me is not much anyone can do when you get a seeing eye goal. That goes in off your own guy yet. Josh norris at his first. Nhl goal it. Alex couch with his first of the year after being a healthy scratch in the first two games and this kind of confusing to me. The maybe something happened in camp. I don't know something that upset. Dj smith irritated him. I don't know but Gotcha nick was really good. And if he can buy bottle up that game poured on like that every night. He'll never come out of the lineup. But consistencies been cow kenya issue but all in all as saying on social media last night despite the loss. man. I'm really pleased with watching the sends right now. The so much to be positive about. I physically feel different. When i'm watching the games right now like feel like bill murray's character the morning. After the groundhog day curse finally lifted. That's where i'm at mentally excited about this team and keen to see the next one game. Two of the three game set with winnipeg. That'll be a third night at canadian tire centre. James and look for sends talk for now. How're things with you today. Well even i could take a little more sense talk. You cut the dot off awfully quick l. While we can get into that. Tim students lifting. You've seen the video of that and he missed that game last night and Pretty nasty little cross. He received the puck nowhere near him in front of the toronto net. Defenseman jake muhsin crosschecks. He's down in a heap and we're not sure exactly what stood list status. We know day to day. That's all we know about the injury but most people are jumping to the conclusion that that plays why he was hurt. And i guess that. Would i mean like i said in the headline. I asked that question. Why is cross checking in front of the net. Never called in the nhl never has been it. Seems like never will be so not not always a penalty. If you look at the high sticking for example you know if you injure a guy when high sticking if you draw blood right. It's a more severe penalty is like it could be made could be a double minor right if you if that's right. Yeah so if you heard a guy with a crosscheck why is that not a bigger penalty review. Stevie dirty place right. They do it all the time they call guys up on the carpet right teams file a complaint or whatever they do The league office calls them in. They look at it and say okay. You're going to get suspended for that. Even though there was maybe no penalty during the game. They got to do that. The only time. I ever see injury factoring into decision making as far as you know officials go. It's when there's that hit from behind for the most part ryan the blood. The blood is a good example. To i should say you know they go up and they're like you can see the guy you know picking his lip and stuff trying to pop pimple or something to draw blood after taking a high stick because if there's blood then it's another two minutes but the other one you see is when there's a hit from behind the guy pops right up you know i might get a boarding call If he stays down for a while then it's almost always five in a game right rats. The one area where i see injury play into it with the case of stood sla. It's a it's it's hard after the fact 'cause he played the rest of the game so it's difficult to go back and you always have that issue if you let injury play into your decision making then you're gonna have guys faking in. Oh say some fourth line scrub especially this year. Where you're playing three and four game series You're going to get that same team right away. The next night you can have some fordline scrub just lie down because the star defense when the other team it him into the boards and we'll just keep them out of the lineup for the rest of the series. Suddenly the star guy even though buddies faking the star guys out for the rest of the series. Well you talked about with mahomes okay the other day concussion protocol and then old. You made a good point right if you have the. Kansas city's own doctor. If that's what we're looking to to clear the guy well let's look at that conflict of interest but but he's always an independent doctor as well. That's so you've got an independent doctor. Okay who looks at that and why they don't do that in the nhl you know. Just say okay. The guys injured. Okay well we need to clarify that. Because you're right and we just say okay why down pretend you're right so bringing an independent i and and he makes a report to the league on this guy's got bruised ribs okay. It's gonna hinder his play. And then the and then the lease got lay down a bigger pennells suspension. or something. fine. I don't know something something that they got to do. Otherwise teams looking at that. Right now steve okay. They look at that and they go. Oh okay i get it. No problem no problem. I'm going to target guys across. Check him in the ribs or some ref some like that or call them up on the carpet. But that's another deal. I wouldn't mind seeing that. See some accountability for the refereeing third period. Game was kind of a joke or a bunch of things that frustrated me watching that in the third period I don't know why there's not some sort of public retribution public accountability. I should say for the referees. Maybe they hold a news conference after at the. Very least to say yeah. I looked at the video and I'd like to have that one back right and just just accountability for why things are being called. The way they are. I'd be really keen to see with two referees into linesmen out there. They all decided between them. Yeah yeah that's a stick infraction. That's totally cool with us. It's in the book cross-checking very clear and you know throughout the nhl history. The whole time. I've watched the nhl cross-checking in front of the net. It's a way that a defenseman can move a guy out but it's usually a case of the pucks in the vicinity somewhere this case. That was random like the puck was up at the point near the blue line and stood slit skating through the slot and muslims takes him down with a cross check. The at some stage of the game. They're going to have to address that. Because you know that's that's not a pleasant thing at all taking the lumber in the spine or in the ribs and that was also what kind of spin effect as well. If you had told me that stood still ahead. Twisted a knee on that one. I would have believed you so still in front of the net. Yeah but with the puck that far away. He has every right to expect. He's not gonna get maimed there. Yeah they got. They got to get together. The lease gotta get together. Okay conference call zoom meeting with all the referees right going. This shit can't happen matt okay. It's tough enough. The season short. They're playing multiple games. You know in a shorter time period than they normally do. It's only fifty six. Were doing this year. Okay but you gotta call this shit you got to call it in fact maybe you gotta go over further over that line and call stuff that maybe we normally wouldn't you know otherwise otherwise like i say you're you're looking at that goal. No problem here. You know no problem here. Were boys have adra. Go stick a guy so They got to fix it man. They got to fix it. Well it was. It was funny the amount of pushback. I got online when i mentioned it. People saying things like oh my god the nhl super soft as it is already my question to those people would be. What is it about that particular play. You're enjoying you're enjoying watching guys. Get cross-checked i understand. Like good clean body checks. You noticed some excitement level in that. What is enticing for you as a fan watching a guy while the other guys not expecting it going up behind him. And i would call it weasley. Cowardly thing to do from behind is going to drive you right in the ribs in the packer. This with the they will crosscheck. Who finds that fun. Some of the feedback on twitter crab chuck. Empty netter writes She's so stupid. Young exciting players getting hurt because the league allows wicked cross checking in front of the net austin matthews had happened to him now stood sla matthews is in the montreal game in the opener last wednesday. If the league wants to promote young players don't let players like muhsin viciously cross-check players without the puck Real senatorial is rights austin watson. He's a new member of the ottawa. Senators who can drop. 'em austin watson might want a minute with jig muhsin the next time the sends and leafs meet. That will be by the way three games next month. Three games in four nights in toronto couple of others Peter writes no biggie. Next chance to sends play the loafs number. Three number forty four. A number fifty five will do the same demar and matthews and One final one. From bob ricks this relief player. They'd be in. The highest court in. Canada sends fans not very upset number. Pleased right now right. Yeah eh that that email. The guy says no problem you know. We'll get him next thing and that's what you don't want that's what you gotta stop. Okay back in the day right. It was it was craig simpson when he played here. He sat in front of the net. Okay the guy. Got beaten to death. Steve beaton right f. And then they changed it. You know they changed the rule. But that's what you see. That's what you don't want no sweat. Okay we'll get him next time as you say send out a fourth line call a guy up from the minors for one shift and and would the would just be transparent with why they allow sake. Okay you got to treat that area that that area in front of the net is different than the rest of the ice now that come up with a reasonable explanation So in the goalie. Like billy smith used to do back in the day or the goalie can't see so he's well within his right. We're not gonna call it. He's well within his rights to tap you on the ankle. If you're hanging around in front of the net and the defense was well within his rights to cross check the crap out of you so goalie slashing defenseman cross-checking those are fully in front of the net. And then we can all get on with our lives in the meantime we're going. What is this right as you know in football right in the nfl particular right. They call that interference a ton right. They call it a ton regardless of game regardless of the situation regardless of the player so everyone knows everyone knows you touch a guy. You tug is jersey. Get in his face handed of all that stuff right. They call it. They call it. Everyone's used to it. Everyone knows the rule. And if you heard a guy from doing it which doesn't which doesn't happen too often you don't go in there and clothesline guy or something like that. But they've done the right way. They've done it the right way. Where where they make that standard issue man right. The one the one exception totally agree with you by the way but the one exception is anytime. You have a hail mary. Where the quarterbacks launching its sixty seventy yards downfield into the end in the final play of the half row of the game and it's like at that stage the referee's whistle away. It's like a defender. He can be out there with a chainsaw. Like taking out like literally cutting guys down at the knees with a chainsaw. Powers it up out there the actual tool and they're still not calling that it's kind of funny to see okay well. Let's look a distant what they call you get you get. You heard that quarterbacks stevie right you you you run into that guy after releases the ball right huge deal. Huge deal okay. I down fifteen yard penalty. You know it's almost an intent to injure crack blocking you know you block a guy from behind even push a guy from behind You know they they call that the other night the other night i forget which game of the thousand games that have lot football games. But you can't block a guy at the knees and football. You know big penalty. That's that's a big penalty. So yeah they would like to have special rules. I think for guys like students learn and you know he's not a star yet but he's going to be And he's one of the reasons. People are tuning into hockey right now because this is one of the exciting young players in the game and now he's injured so i think in the nhl druthers. Yeah they'd like to protect the superstars of the game but they can't they just can't footballs in a situation. Where the quarterback is easily identifiable goalie in hockey easily identifiable. But you can't you can't come after someone because they've done something to a star player and you know versus afford liner. Some guys barely in the nhl. It's impossible for somebody to go easy quote unquote on the star player. Because they can't identify these players in the heat of the game. I get it in a in the perfect situation but but would it be so bad. You know the league makes a statement. Okay beyond beyond the normal. Okay statement is we think it was intent to injure so the guy's suspended could they ever because they say well and and this guy's one of one of their top players you know what you could do steve at the beginning of the year okay You know if the league saying okay we can. We do something there. Can we begin to separate guys and saying okay. That wouldn't be a penalty on fourth line guy but it is on a on a first liner. That maybe you designate guys from each team at the beginning of the year and that everyone wants more offense right. No one wants to see anyone get injured in say. Here's our top four guys. Here's our top three guys. Okay and it's gonna be a stiffer penalty if you hurt one of those guys. The i think i agree with you. You know when it comes to the star player. I agree with you when it comes down to. Nhl dopp department of player safety when they're looking at the video and they're going through it all okay. Intention checks this and that and that i'm deciding on the suspension and it's connor mcdavid. That was the victim in this thing. Pretty sure there's gonna be a little extra something something there say. It's where i say it's difficult is in the live action where they on. Ice officials are being asked k. You know that was a two minute minor but because it was mcdavid. I'm going to give you a five in a game. Those those guys in the heat of the moment they can't really handle anything and they can't really be saying things like okay. Well it was a star player. I've got becoming down harder on it. I think that's that's a big ask but for sure department of player safety those guys probably do let it factor in how many games a guy gets. Let's take time out of the program. We've got more to come. The new york mets have fired their general manager for quite a unique reason. We'll get to that. After these words. My job is to get the best deal available to you with a company's at my disposal. I have the markets with our expertise and home and auto insurance will make it easy for you to put me in your lineup. And i'll give you an honest effort. I'm josh president of insurance ontario. Texter call eight six zero six zero zero eight and i'll give you the best value all insurance ontario. Your modern boutique broker. Time is running out on the year. End of eta. 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They never should've gotten rid of bobby ryan will keep in mind looked at his ice time through four games like i think he's at thirteen minutes and he's shooting percentage right now is fifty seven percent. He's had seven shots for goals of gone in that said this just in not sustainable So you'll see a writing of things but hey for what it is. You got to feel good for bobby ryan that These off to a nice start. The other part is is the carolina. Hurricanes game against nashville has been postponed at least four members of the hurricanes have tested positive for covid so that brings to a total of five games. And we've played something like fifty five sixty games right now. So five games have now been postponed due to covid and the other ones all dallas stars. Because they've been they've been hit really hard with the covid bugs so there's your nhl and covid news time getting tiring news. I mean serious. I don't want to dismiss l. Series is but it's like. Oh yeah yeah i think. People here are rolling their eyes at certain stories. Like there was one in cumberland but an outdoor rink and a volunteer their name mark blais and he got fined by bylaw for allowing his son to play with his hockey stick alone on the ice while mark his father in law shoveled and scrape the rink so they refuse the ticket and police were called and so i guess there were by the time things finally finished up there. Three bylaw officers three police officers out there and so a lot of people are saying okay. This is getting crazy this going a little too far right on the other hand you know i think probably someone calls by law when they say you see somebody skating around out there and they their kid be out there playing on the door rank plane little hockey and they're not allowed to so. Why is this person allowed to so. I don't know it's hard. It's hard to know exactly the full story on that but it just an example of how people are just getting so so sick of covid. Yeah member they tried. When the distracted driving laws came around right the cell. Phone deal when when of introducing. You're you're gonna get fined if you're on your cell phone and i thought it was a great idea. What one of the problems of they said is you can report someone right you can. You can turn turn someone in that you see doing. I think i got that right anyway and they say what you can't do that you can't frigging. How do we control that. You know but in this situation. I i totally get what you're saying. It's it seems overkill. where where's the. Where's the line here you know. It's a little blurry about what should be allowed. And what shouldn't the thing is really. You're gonna in a time when no one's working hard okay. People are getting drilled economically about this thing That you're gonna you're gonna lay down. You know a firm fine with someone that you gotta pay that. I think they should give the guy warning issue. A ticket okay. Issue a ticket and say if you break this thing again you go. We're gonna know it's a warning ticket. Okay and if you get caught again doing this you know you're gonna have to pay that fine something. Yeah but there's something about you know because it's so wholesome it's like a it's iconic for canadians. The rink kids playing on it and And it hasn't been spared from all this kobe stuff as well here in ottawa. It's Yeah there's a. There's a very clear rule you can skate. But he can't have hockey sticks and you canucks and balls because it lends itself to competition and people in You know getting too close and one of what's the reference. I'm looking for anyway to close to each other. And so that's been banned grow during the sports term encroachment. I like it no yards penalty anyway. They're not supposed to be out there playing road hockey at this moment in time. It's not a permanent banner ending like that and so by law officers were enforcing the laws as they stand right now. But there's something about the outdoor rink the this feels like that's the last thing that should be affected by this. It's so wholesome it's so healthy it's awesome. We'll loved his kids you know. There's another one in vaughan ontario. Somebody took a bunch of cell phone video of a city worker at an outdoor rink behind the community centre. In vaughan that was basically putting road. Salt all over the outdoor rink because that was the only way they could put a shutdown on outdoor hockey. Going on out there. It just something about the images of that that offend people but at the same point these are unique times. We're in right now and the other thing is it can be a vigilante here man with with you know. It's pretty clear. Steve what the what the rules are. It's pretty clear what the restrictions are there. It's very very tough for you not to know what's in placer what they've laid down right so in fairness to the government or the cities and the by laws you know. The guy probably knew that you're not allowed to do this. But i'm going to go do it anyway. You know well you can't you know we could sit here and argue all day pal whether that should be a bylaw or not right now or temporary bylaw but the fact of the matter is you weren't supposed to do it so don't don't it sucks because he's a volunteer this taking care of the rink and while he's taking care of the rank his sons skating around because he's with them but it is. It's one of those deals where wealth we allow him. What about the ten other kids over here. Who are standing at their picture. Window in their living room palms pressed against the glass and looking like puppy dogs like. Why can't i come to right. We're not supposed to right now. And that's the idea. Yeah and i could see that human nature you know you've got your son there you know in your respecting it. You're doing what you're told to do. Your you know everyone's bouncing off the walls these days trying to trying to you know keep their sanity a with with all the restrictions and you look and there's a kid skating there right. Yup i human nature. Ob get the bylaw officers on the full to okay. I'm not putting up with this. Or why can he do it. So agree with that or not agree with it or not. You can't you can't can't break the rule right now all right. Let's close it out with a baseball story. And is the new york. Mets general manager jared porter. He was one of the rising stars in major league baseball and now he is unemployed. Always good the mets looked like they were on their way. They're reinvesting in the team and now he's unemployed because he was doing some offensive things and this is Interestingly enough like almost five years ago that he did it and now it's come back to haunt him and it's So last month he was hired as the mets. Gm and jared porter was fired for sending sexually explicit uninvited text messages and images to a female reporter in two thousand sixteen when he was still in the cubs. Front-office espn reported late monday. That porter sent dozens of unanswered texts to the woman including a picture of quote an erect naked penis in. Espn said. It obtained a copy of the text history. Many of the messages and photos he said were displayed in the report online. And so new. Mets owner steve cohen says we've terminated porter in my initial. Press conference spoke about the importance of integrity. And i meant it. There should be zero tolerance for this type of behavior. And it's a. It's it's saddens me to think about the woman in question because she was a foreign correspondent who had moved to the us to cover major league baseball. And i guess. She met porter at yankee stadium. They spoke briefly about international baseball. The exchange business cards now the only time they actually ever spoke but then ported starts with texts like text a palooza complimenting her looks inviting her to meet him in different cities that he was traveling to asking. Why are you ignoring me. And then after he sent a lewd picture she had to ignore sixty more messages and then a vote. The vulgar photo that was basically straw that broke camel's back and the woman actually went back to her home country and left her job. That i mean the whole thing is sad but to think that the woman With everything that was done by porter here allegedly that that contributed to her decision to leave journalism altogether and return to her home country at just so sad across the board. Yeah yeah it is. It is and it's kind of abuse of power right so you get you get a reporter right. They all scoop the stories and meets the what what was his. What was his position at the time. Steve in twenty sixty he lose working in the cubs front office. I'm not sure exactly probably like an assistant. Gm or something like that yes. He's got a big job right. I mean you wanna you wanna get stories. Tv go to the top right and so she meets this guy. This great Anyway when you hear it when you when that story breaks yesterday or today what what do you think. Right away stephen. While this part of my old way of thinking because you and i are well into middle age late in middle age and There was a time when a story like that. Would kind of make you snicker a bit. And only after go back about fifteen years ago when brett farve allegedly did the same thing to a very beautiful young reporter and at the time. It was a snicker fast. But i i can't i can't even begin to tell you the amount of evolution and i think we've had in society and those fifteen years since so no stage am i going. That's hilarious. Because a- things have changed. And now. I'm a little more sympathetic to the person in question. That's you know had to. especially now. They know that she said to leave her job. Leave the country. The clearly came here with with that dream in mind and this guy took it away. Yeah i got to be honest. And i've got to get out of the habit of thinking this way because it's wrong because it's wrong away. When i hear it that i do go to a place gone. That was a long time ago. Right and then i hear myself. Say that gone jimmy boy. Stop that shit stop. That shit doesn't matter that it was a long time ago. But i something something says to me well. It was four years ago. And that's brutal. I don't know why. I think that but probably a lot to do with what you're saying. That it was a sort of snicker deal Many years ago. But i look at it to both have daughters in her early twenties and thinking you know walk a mile and And show the empathy. Like how would you feel if that was your daughter trying to break into the sports media when still it's let's be honest. It's still not an easy place for female reporters to work in a lot. Better than it was thirty years ago where female reporters would go into dressing rooms and players at still be. They make a point of coming out with a towel on out of the shower or something. Things evolve thankfully. But i even now in two thousand twenty one if my daughter wanted to get into sports media you know. I'd have some level of expectation that she treated respectfully and This is this is the guy holding the highest managerial job in a major league sports organization and he does that right to my daughter. Just how mad. I would be right to things that come out of this right One is that guys know people are going to look at that right and go okay you you. You can't do it anymore. And here's why this guy life changing day life changing day fired as a gm steve. He's not sure here. You know so that. That's one thing that's going to be good out. This and and is is getting better you if you do this. You're going to be in trouble. You know that you're going to be in trouble. And this is a campaign to. This isn't like one night wasn't a one off. It was a sustained campaign of one text after another totally unsolicited. And that's what makes it. Greasy and i have a hard time believing this guy's gonna get another gig in major league baseball. Yeah pretty serious stuff. You know what what it does call into. Thoughts and question here is going to rank the they got. Gotta rank these in these indiscretions okay. So that's that's pretty high up there. You know the other issues going to be and we dealt with it in hockey starting a couple years ago with coaches who bullied players right and some players began to come forward. The you know that they got kicked. It got slapped. They got yelled get abused. They got called derogatory names and and it became an issue right. It became an issue. And and it's good. it's good. It's making coaches aware. You just can't run amok here. How far back do you go. Who i don't even like getting into that. Jimmy like Statute of limitations. I said a date. How far back do we go Let's say it's thirty years that makes you sound like i'm exonerating any nonsense. That happened prior to that in the name of all those were different times. So that's just the way it was back then. And and i i don't really want to do that But at the same time. It's not really fair to apply today's Ideals to what happened forty years ago. So i don't know how far you go back. I don't know i date. And i'm certainly not going to be the one to try and set it very unpopular. Yeah that's where it's weird to you know and listen. I talked about bullying if you look at it. You know this guy sexually explicit pictures You know all you have to do is see how this poor woman was affected by it. So you get you get the idea. The idea that team steps forward and says you can't do that This girl's been altered left her job. Also all sorts of fallout from it for the poor girl personally for her to talk to some kids who got constantly bullied in school. You know it's not a common these guys end up with. Ptsd from it and and from years and years ago there's no one will argue with the fact that people don't are not affected by that they are. They are so the other the other thing. I was going to say steve two things. So it's going to lay the law down here with with you know going forward God blesses girl for coming forward. It's great to to let people know it's great to make an example this so you're gonna think twice devi as you say you're going to stop it. Used to be kind of snickering. Fifteen or twenty years ago. But you can't do that. You can't do it You know particularly when you see the result for this girl what the guy did do those steve. It's first time. I've seen it in a while when people are accused of this is most of them. Say i unequivocally deny this okay which you know. I'm not gonna comment on immortal. You know this is outrageous bub-bubba this guy come forward right away admits that he did it. The the piece. I read this morning. The league the league right away. The owner The the acting president or something or whoever it was says fire. He's fired immediately. They released one in like three minutes later. They put a tweet and then the piece go gone to say this guy came forward and said absolut absolutely. I did and i regret it. And i'm contrite and all this stuff about it so That was good to see. That was good to see. Yeah i normally agree. But i mean keep in mind. This woman has a cell phone full of the guys texts and images and there's really no defending it so you might as well come clean on it all right. Let's wrap it up any final thoughts today. James and what did you think of my little Your honor did you watch a couple shows last night. yeah. I ended up watching Think four episodes our shows. You blitzed it. Oh yeah hammered. At hard full hour thought it was like forty forty five minutes anyway a thought it was good however homeland. You watched homeland right. Yeah yeah but dana brody the teenage daughter. I declared after her after watching homeland the most obnoxious tv character maybe in the history of tv but the teenage son a bryan cranston in your honor is absolutely right. They're neck and neck like i. Just i want this guy to be. Just i would turn him in so fast. If i'm i mean i know where i'm at right now bryan cranston's character cannot turn in his son but i bet you every fiber of his being absolutely wants to and regrets every second of this thing so far because this teenage son man you see his name is adam. God i hate him. I just hated really. I felt every or a all my god. I hate what every bad thing that can happen to a character to happen to that character. Well it stevie he's really well. I thought the kid sort. It was completely eft up here that he wants to turn himself in. I'm not giving anything away by the way folks. That's the first show. But his dad does this ultimate thing for him and he just nags his dad the whole time come on dead. You know i know you saved my life and everything. But he you. Oh that's not no sniveling weasel a hate him so much. Well the other thing i do like is is is bryan cranston not the most attractive bad guy ever or is that a name bryan bryan cranston yet is not the most attractive bad guy ever think of breaking bad breaking right now so it's like i can't believe i love this guy. Okay okay. it's pretty good. Sneaky pete to right totally right. Yeah he's a bad guy and sneaky pete. He's he's a bad guy in your honor bag. I'm breaking bad is like i liked this guy. I mean he. He's got a he's had a great career. I didn't see it for them. Honestly like a soap opera guy in the early days and he was in malcolm in the middle is the goofy dad. Thought it'd be a comic actor. But i did not see this kind of come to be honest. Well it's a great. It's a great premise. For a show right you can tell exactly when when guys sat down in the him to think about a show that they wanna put together. He's the executive guy. He's he's all behind her. Eighty axes the executive producer of everything bryan cranston. his show. Okay as you can see where this comes about steve right that you're screaming okay that you're screaming that they've got a they've got to for example this guy today this story today this guy got you got nailed for explicit pictures that send a girl and we're all screaming get him out lots of people right get him out of the game. Never give another job until someone goes. What if it was your son right. And i don't care who you are who you are. You're gonna pause. You're gonna pause right. You're not you're not gonna launch up you know. And that's the premise of this story. And it's very good. And it's i thought it was extremely well done with the links someone would go to if it was their own kid. He broke the law you know. What if the mets would. If the mets gm was sending the photos to the daughter of a mafia kingpin her another layer another layer for sure. All right we should call it today but before we go james good listener if you need anything at all just check out our website steve w project dot com and if you could do as the favor of subscribing to the show today if you haven't already that would be awesome so thanks for being with us. Simple talk again in our next episode goodnight. Everybody we'll see you.

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On International Hockey, All-Star Games & Saluting The Fans

Fox and Faust | LA Kings

46:51 min | 1 year ago

On International Hockey, All-Star Games & Saluting The Fans

"Happy New Year Hockey Fans Jessica in here to thank you for downloading this episode of Fox Faust to let you know that while we're releasing today it was recorded last week. Hope you enjoy it. Take it away Alex Jim. I've got some advice to ask for because you're older and have more experience Emphasis on the old man. You're almost double my age. How long before you stop greeting somebody with Happy New Year? Very simple answer to that whenever you want to really like. I always thought there was like a guideline or something that greeting people and interacting with people and communicating with people. That's an individual preference. You do what you WanNa do but like after one week it feels weird like if somebody's giving me a happy new year on January fifteenth. That feels a little strange. Here's my rule of phone. Uh-huh it can go two months past the new year. If you're seeing that person for the first time so we travel a lot. We see teams. We only see them once or twice a year. See People that you only see once or twice a year. So what happens to be around January fifteenth around February Tenth? And you have wary and you've not yet seen them in the New Year than I think it's fine to say happy new your. You can't repeatedly see the same people and use the same one and done if you see somebody that happened to your check. That chick said but then you get to a point where you have to stop with the person that you have not seen. You can go as long as you. I run into this problem Christmas time because like I can wish people ca. I can't wish people merry Christmas. After the fact shrieking like the Hannukah's great you get it for eight days pretty much. Nobody wishes you agreeing anyway. It's Christmas that I worry about Christmas and New Year's like unspoken rules of when you do these things you're just saying. Merry Christmas for two thousand twenty so getting a head start there. You go where we broadcasting from today. Oh I think it's about time we actually started the podcast until people. What's going on? We welcome you into the Oxen Faust. The podcast from the end Prepari- air odd cast studio in El Segundo. We got ourselves bigger studio. The other one next to the employee break room move like I feel gets a little warm for LATKES EAGLE OFF BIGGER BIGGER. So why and the hot air that we spew it like. I feel like I walk out of the room and a sweat after doing an by the way. Go out on a limb here but what are the greatest people that you will ever meet Hawk Loudini Liberia and to see what he did for his team and his teammates on a daily basis was and then to be questioned by a coach at one point regarding fighting too much? Which was really. Yeah you gotTa pick your spots. You Understand Games. If you're up to nothing you don't necessarily but when you do that for the team. I think that person should be given a longer leash when maybe they decide to do it for themselves every once in a while because the sacrifice they're making to me when he was questioned because having known he never does an for himself. He does it for the team so that caught me off guard. When I heard that type of thing happening I'd be longtime ago. I would've happened Got A couple fun topics to talk about this week on the podcast what happens in Soviet Russia stays quiet in Soviet Russia the NHL. All Star game rosters are announced. We already have the Forsberg. What about the Fetch Makarov Lacrosse style? Goals are all the rage round lead these days but we begin in the Czech Republic. The world of hockey with its is on Ostrava for the world junior championships. Jim You played in this tournament in nineteen eighty three goals. In five games in Helsinki Finland. That was the height of Soviet power in junior hockey. They would win their fourth straight gold medal that year. It's changed a lot since nineteen eighty gord. Miller mentioned on. Tsn This year you could have the top. Six draft picks all in action at this year's tournament. Obviously Alexa left. Frontiers hurt now. But I I'm curious like what? What was it like playing this tournament overseas? How old were you at eighteen at the time? Nineteen but it was. It was completely different first of all when I went team. Canada was actually the Peterborough Pete's which was a team in the Ontario Hockey League at the time big rival of the Ottawa. Sixty seven's and they picked up six to eight guys had to their team from the -Tario League so it wasn't team Canada. It was just a sprinkling of additions Paul coffey Dino CISA rally our whole lines thrown in there just great no good players but the thing I remember the most was the first game. We ended up playing. We played filling in the first game. Lost that one. I believe to one. I don't have the scores. We basically played the last ten minutes to men shorter so when you get it to international competition especially back then. There was a huge difference between the way. North American teams played with the physicality and the way European teams played more of a skating more of a skill game. So the referees the officials were not used to the physicality so we were just a constant till the penalty box and again ended up. Losing a two to one yard. Query was maybe the biggest name on the Finnish team game. Two we end the plane the Russians. We lose games. Were basically out of the metal after two games True-to-life Larry Arnn off. They were phenomenal. biggest thing. I talked to was meeting the Russian players. We all stayed in the same hotel each team. Kinda had its own floor but we would intermingle every once in a while and trying to talk now. There was no one there that spoke on the Russian team that spoke English and there was no one on the Canadian team that spoke Russian but there was some interpreters around and we just started to. It was interesting at time because Russia was in Afghanistan and it was just interesting to get their perspective on it and we Kinda talked about. We asked them their perspective. Was that Afghanistan as a country was having so much trouble. They asked Russia to come in and help them. And that was the perspective. That's what they were told. Of course that was not our worldview but the practices stood out to me watching the European teams practice was incredible completely different then. North American teams the skill emphasis. Moving every drill. They did with the PUCK. We used to who drills where you would skate and then you drew drills where you never did. They did everything with the puck and I think that led to just their high skill level and we have now learned from them and they have now learned for us. There's more of a physical checking nature to European hockey than maybe there used to be an as to your point about skill with the puck when you get these players from Sweden from Finland. That's almost expectation that they bring that to the table. I think just naturally a stay at home. European trained defenseman is higher skilled than a stay at home. North American trained stayed home defense type of thing interesting just how they learn. If I'm not mistaken I'd heard recently report that the cage L. Next year is going all. Nhl Ice surface interest attention. Yeah because they have three baths dimensions right now. And they're going to buy two hundred. The International Olympic all love. It should be that way. We've talked about it for years when you have the Olympics. The coaches have all star teams to work with. That's why the Games are better. They've realized in Europe that by having extra money on the outside only add room to an area that you can't score from it becomes chess become soccer on ice and Yager probably the best guy to make an opinion based opinion because he's played extensively on both said he preferred the NHL Surface. Because if a team makes a mistake you get to the net a lot quicker and you can capitalize on that. Where north on the European surfaces the Olympic size surfaces? If a mistake is made there's a better chance to cover up for that mistake and you don't have the goal. This is interesting to me too because there are. I'd say about a half dozen college hockey programs that still use the Olympic sheet. Minnesota is one university of New Hampshire's Saint Cloud state like there's some pretty good programs that still use the Olympic Sheet. Because he was in vogue in the nineties there was there was talk that the NHL was gonna try to go in that direction for a little while. Obviously arena. Construction prohibits them from doing that. But that this was a thought for a while that while we have more room we have more action. It's a little bit because for a long time. The thought was that hockey was a little bit too. Boris right we were just hitting each other. We're not actually playing the game international hockey. There's more theoretical playing the game. But you like two years ago the Olympics I felt beyond the fact that the NHL guys weren't there. It just wasn't fun to watch. There was not much happening for the Olympics. You get back to the inside and you protect them. The park stays on the outside and nothing happened. Now I'd be curious to see if generally speaking this I hope. It's a a nudge finely for these college programs which again plenty of good players come out of Minnesota. Unh SAINT CLOUD. But the try to get everybody in the world in basketball. I think is probably the only sport where you have. Standard Ish dimensions on the court. You have three point. Line is a little different restricted areas. Different in the foul line extended a little different the lane. But I'd like to see hockey universal worldwide. I think that would go that way. Yeah Speaking of international hockey flew back to New York for the holidays. And I had a chance to catch up in TV you know I'm a TV guy. I'm not a movie Guy and I watched the show Noble without giving away. Spoilers I I love the show. It's gripping it's really worth your time. I did a little reading after. Apparently they stretched the truth a little bit and they made for more dramatic show but more than anything else that was interesting to see that that disaster was in many folks view it as the true catalyst for the downfall of the Soviet Union. Not other things disaster in particular and how even the Soviet state couldn't contain the news couldn't do anything about it was around worldwide. But you told me when I told you I watched the show. You told me you're in Russia when this happened yes. I was in Moscow playing in the one thousand nine hundred eighty six world championships for Canada. And just to kind of touch on what you're saying. I think the biggest influence on the fall of the old communist system in Russia was Jim. Fox's visit one thousand nine hundred reading democracy one handshake. And it's I'm GONNA I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA go as quick as I can but I have some stories to tell about that first of all. We were there five days in Moscow which was very cold now relatively close closer then train. It's right yes closer than Los Angeles right but we did not know anything about it. We took a flight from Moscow to Frankfurt on the way home and I told her story many times before without this is literal because of my experience nineteen days in Moscow. This is old communist Russia. When I got off the plane back in the day she would walk onto the tarmac. You didn't have those ramps that you I was in a full suit and tie and soon as I got to the ground I got on my hands in these and actually literally kissed the ground. That's another lie. We get on a plane over the ice cap eleven hours Frankfurt la direct. I believe it was Pan. Am At the time they had the old. Tv screens that came down the big ones right in front of each bulkhead and the ABC news comes on and starts talking about Chernobyl. We had not heard a word of it and we were there five days after it happened so obviously they were controlling the news. Sources in the old Communist system lab. Two of our guys did get checked. When we got back to North America. They went and got checked to make sure there was no radiation issues and things of that sort but nothing has influenced my life more than the nineteen days in Russia. It was incredible. I remember sitting at the front of our boss and talking with the interpreter and just trying to argue with him. Totally see this. Could you be the Communist? System is not the way to go and he was certainly grew up in that. I understood that to watch sixty year old ladies sweeping off the street with a branch branch is tied to a longer branch And I will get emotional here. It struck me up at a bar. We stayed at the intourist hotel rate on Red Square bar on the other side of Red Square. One night. I I'm going to bed. I remember walking across Red Square. This is not lie either as far as I could see. Whoever's been there you know it's pretty vast. There was no one in Red Square at the time who was about just past midnight. It was cold it was late. April. I remember walking across and seeing the Red Star Atop Red Square and looking around and going whole league where the hell at my Marquardt. He was my teammate. And Roommate we went out one night and we forgot our keys and they told you. Don't forget your key you. Well the only way to get into our room the lady that cleans the rooms the the roommate. I guess you she actually lived on the floor. That was her home. She lived there and her job was to clean all rooms and then she would. You know I don't know how much time off she had. We get back late and we have to knock on her door to wake her up to give us into our room and we feel so bad about it so mark and I both peel off a twenty dollar Bill America and we had it to her the tip she starts to cry. She breaks that she can't believe for her. That was like six months pay. We worked out later with the interpreter. So she now but we were just what you would normally do. You tip someone fruit service. Exactly what's going on in their way? It's a very western awesome. Yeah I we were like final story. Russians win the tournament. They win the gold. We won bronze again. It's it's the tournament that's played at the end of the year. Where not best on Bass Strait? I would not have been on the team if it was best on best but I was certainly honored to play and not selected because the kings didn't make the playoffs at your Pat Quinn. Who was our coach was the coach of the team. We had a lot of things on the team But the day we play Russia by far the best team in the tournament by far. They don't need any help. This didn't happen on any other day of the tournament. We have a little get together in the morning. Just like a pre game skate like they do here. We go back to our rooms to get your rest your nap before the game at night about one thirty in the afternoon every single radio on our floor went off full blast high-volume in everyone's room and the radio was on the wall attached into the wall and no one could turn it off. What the heck are they doing? They're going to beat US anyway. And but that was that was the trickery back in the international circles. And you weren't even getting communist propaganda was just to wake. You was mad but it was. It was life changing. I don't have kids but when I went back to North America. I would tell my friends if you ever have problems with your kids and want to discipline them. Send HIM TO MOSCOW MOSCOW. They will learn that what they have here within twenty four hours of getting back from there and. I know I'm going on long here but we had a Gulf get together in Palm Springs so within about a thirty six hour period went from nine days in Moscow communist Russia to Palm Springs. Hey this'll watch luxury you talk about. Culture shock difference. It was it was amazing. Yeah that's very interesting. Noble was just it caught us off guard but it it just added to everything was controlled their their new sources were controlled and they did not allow that information to leak out within Russia insider Russia. Was there when you're a player. I think there's been a little bit more debate in the last couple of weeks especially with behind the scenes talk between the. Nhlpa the trying to figure out a way to get an international calendar a calendar or get back on the Olympic Games. Was there ever thought when you were player that you WanNa play an Olympics or was it just off limits because it was considered amateur at the time and you didn't even think about that didn't even think about it in Canada because you were thinking about higher sites and your higher site was the NHL Mushroom play into professional? You're not gonNA play in the Olympics. Of course now you can and we know how the players feel about it now. They want to be involved but back. Then it really was plan b back then and if you have your sights on. Plan A. You don't think plenty I I look at today's climate and it's all a commercial issue that the NHL has right now. The International Olympic Committee is very protective very stubborn when it comes to the video rights and the marketing rights for any images related to Olympic participation. They don't allow NHL Arenas to post video highlights back when the NHL ten and fourteen. You couldn't show a video. Highlight you had to show still photographs in the. Nhl IS COMING OUT WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OF AT I. I can sympathize with it of. Hey we need to see some benefit here right. You know. We're we're going to send our guys over there all right. We're already risking injury or already not getting commercial benefit being paid to have this happen. We can't even show highlights. We can't even market the fact that we're lending our talent to you for tournament. I see that I see that for the angels perspective that in itself. If that were changed I think you would change the mind of at least ten owners at least him and now you have maybe a groundswell of more than you start if the NHL could benefit financially. And I know I've heard the argument so many times before. Oh go the game globally and they have games in Europe to start but it's NHL against any chill or the Olympics. Great way the globe grow the game. Old How good the practice and it is it's phenomenal best on best is great but the NHL teams do studies. They do they follow up on it and it is not affected. The NHL positively. It is not if it did they do it so it doesn't and you've got to find other ways. I certainly can see the NHL owner perspective more. So Than I. I can see the player perspective. They WANNA play the top players. Any field you're in. You always WANNA match up against the talk. You might players. Don't get monetary benefit for nothing. They're on their own volition. This is just competition they want to compete and the farther I get away from the game the more it sounds weird the more anger stand competition. Maybe because when you're in the midst of it you're just doing it and it's automatic and it seems natural but now again especially after the Kings won two cups and I was able to see that firsthand and some of the players. The core is still around here. I understand what makes them tick? They just WANNA compete. That's interesting here is my plea to the International Olympic Committee. Because they're realistically the only ones holding this up it's not the NHL it's not as if the NHL doesn't want to go because they have mechanisms to protect themselves. They Buy Insurance. They deal with logistics deal with Pr. They're okay with all that the fact that they can't market it is the biggest hangup. If you'll you'll hear talk about insurance and travel but those are small hurdles to clear they want to be able to market. There has been some talk. Maybe moving into the Summer Games I would. It would be fun. It's indoors right. Reassuring Doors Inste-. At least your player pool road not bring involved in the middle of the NHL dubbed. The International. Olympic Committee is stubborn about video rights. Winter sports at the summer period. Goals a you know what this incense this break from. International Competition could actually be a net positive in the end if the NHL does wind up sending their players again. Whether it's for the cycle in Beijing in two thousand twenty two or the next one in twenty-six this break actually could help build up interest again because it became a given after ninety eight and Dominic cautious in the NHL Players for the first time going in Nagano that. Oh we're gonNA see him and then Salt Lake City at an opportunity. See him up close in Vancouver once in a lifetime opportunity to see Canada Win. Gold on home ice. Well can you imagine it's been away for so long? It's just like anything richer right if you if you don't have it for a while and you bring it back all it's better than ever. You don't know what you've got until gone sadly but I could see if the market size of China is enticing. I could see the NHL Change. I think that just for China. Well you were there. You were there for the first. China Games it was. That was a huge push the NHL just to get a foot in the door because if you get a small percentage of a billion people that's still a small percentage of a billion people compared to just North America the corporate structure. You're looking for in all honesty. When we were in China. This is my perspective. We were not even a blip on the Idar nothing but that's only preseason game But I thought that the attendance of the Games were not that great. But I'm looking now. I think China is more involved globally in the economy yoga. Everyone's so just looking at them if I'm honest and I'm going to transition to cause the all star Game Rosters announced if I'm honest three on three tournament if we're looking for a little tiny sliver of international competition best on best. Why don't we turn the All Star game into a mini global three on three tournament? Because right now the division format they came out with its three on three. It's fun it's different doesn't do it for me anymore. It's being played at half speed. Which three on three kind of this in regular season games? It's not a full speed thing. Sometimes unless they're breakdowns and then it's chaos down but if you were to just tell players okay we're going to set you up and four teams USA Canada Europe and under twenty three team North America. I think that would Is You'd have a small three on three tournament. Get a little enticement of your plan for the country on the front of Your Jersey not a division where you don't really care as much even though the the bonus money's Nice I would love to see that you know what to spice it up even more. Let's throw some female players in there. To Amanda Kessel gets the plate with Phil Kessel. Kendall COYNE GOES HEAD TO HEAD AGAINST CONNOR. Mcdavid throw them in their international tournaments. Spice it up a little bit. Because the All Star Game Rosters are out Andre Cope with ours representing the Kings. It just feels whole home and I know the game is not there for the fans the All Star game there are fan fest and there are a lot of things that the fans can participate in. And it's a fun event. I went last year. It's fun but it's not for the fans it's for the NHL corporate partners and you want to keep your corporate partners happy. I get that but like to just spice it up a little bit at at something meaningful at the table bragging rights. 'cause could do you know who won the last All Star. Game One of the trough divisions I don't even remember I called the game remember. Who won the thing? I think it's I have no problem with where you're going there. None at all a it just shows how you know when we get used to something again the flavor of the day. You need something else now. But that's it gets a great idea. I have nothing to add there with the females coming aboard. It's a non contact three on three right so you know fear of safety and we watched ladies play to going out and yeah it's body checking but it's about as I contact. Yeah so no. That would all be fine. I think that's now you're talking about growing the game. Yeah it's the local city fans. Yes but it's not for the fans in general it should be. I know for years. People have complained about the format and the lack of urgency and the lack of physicality and it can't be the cannot be a regularly played game. You can't have an all star game in a sport that has contact with the pro bowl and football. It's the same type of thing basketball. They go crazy but they don't play defense right. It's two hundred two hundred honestly. Three on three lends itself. So this is how much body checking. Is there a really in three and three hardly any so you could tell guys head? We don't need to play. This half speeches just turned up the wick a little bit more because that's what that's what annoys me watching it in person and on TV. It's slow compared to how our games usually played baseball. The All Star game is probably the only all-star game played at full speed. Because there's no contact right. Contact great got hit by Pete. Rose way back in the day could be but yes that's to expect the NHL All-star game to be anywhere near the intensity of a regular season or playoff game. Your expectations are misguided. I'm just checking the roster's Andres -fession Cov is not on the Metropolitan Division team. And that's a disappointment for me because I would love to see a Lacrosse goal in the All Star game. That would be but he's not going to play there. I'm calling it the special cough because nobody else has pulled off in a game the NHL NHL. We've seen it actually team Sweden. I don't remember the kid's name in the World Juniors. He pulled it off in game. There was a kid. The University of Michigan did it yet. We think of this. What do we think is gets okay? I have no problem with it as long as it stays within the rules. I don't think it's going to be outlawed. The thing that will come into it every once in a while will be. The Height is above your shoulder usually. It's not because most every player in the NHL Standing Normal Height. Their shoulder is above the height of the Cross Martin. The first one that he scored though he did make contact with the goaltender mask on the way in to me that will start lending itself to. This is going to have to go win. Swish can't hit. If you're a stick hits I'M GONNA be talking about coach's challenge for goaltender interference those types of things Because you know you are you hitting the goaltender for making has moved to make that same by making contact with the stick even though it's simultaneous with the Puck Ryan. There's a safety issue. You want sticks around guys edge regardless of whether goaltender when that happens the goaltenders in the butterfly and he's on his knees and that's why his head is at that level he's not standing but no it's fine it's great. I think it will come to the point where it's going to happen so much that it becomes an automatic L. And we'll be looking for somethings against. So here's my take because there is simmering talk about banning the move for safety if the Puck is on your stick your fair game to be hit right and to deliver hit. You can trash the net with the puck on your stick. Doesn't matter if it's lower vitae like if you're in the follow through of a shot which Lacrosse goal is a follow through of a shot if you make contact with somebody with a high stick and a follow shot. That's within the scope of the rules. You would have to change so that you could never pick up the PUCK. The rule would have to be altered in such where you can never pick up the PUCK. I don't want to do that. Because when the shootout when they banned the spin around it was about well the forward movement of the PUCK. I still don't quite understand why that's such a big deal in a shootout stop and start. Aren't we supposed to encourage? Creativity often have a continuous motion. I believe and that's what they use. You have and spin around is continuous. But you have to allow the goaltender a chance if the guy comes in and takes forty seven minutes before it gets roost. There's a lot going on and my yeah. My only concern is interference on the goaltenders higher. Hiding the stick. It's it's whether the goaltender if the con- I thought that first goal he scored simultaneous contact with the goaltenders mask. As the PUCK million. No one mentioned it at the time. They think it's difficult to execute. Obviously but nobody else has done it. Just I think players that you see it in practice. They're trying what are the? What are we at the odds on of somebody trying to pull it off in the All Star game? 'cause as right now especially coughs nod. Ian But let's say somebody else tries it like Matt Brazil. I could see him try it. Somebody's going to try. I think it happens more five on five because the players using the back of the net as Dash Answer. Three on three hundred. There's a little bit more free flowing skating so you don't get that stopped motion as much but we'll keep going. I'm GonNa take questions now because I think we we've got a good got a good amount of time. Put into the podcast we can. We have some time for questions. Let's see scrolling through. Here's one from actually our pre game producer. Joel goodling. Who doesn't need to tweet at us. You know our number Joel. Ario one piece of technology you would like to see implemented into hockey broadcasts or something that already exists. You'd like to see more of in. Nhl Broadcasting for me that simple There's two things the zoom in blow up camera. You get a shot. The Skate on the line is it on the line. Those types of things. It's there so it already exists but to execute it during game is very difficult. I Know Tronto does that. So they get a magnified view. All right look provided that. Tv that's the current. And I I'd like to see that more and then I saw on soccer yesterday actually watching the Liverpool game against the Z. A. R. Is this the? Va but what they used was. This was great. I thought in the process of their stop framed final. Look at whether the guys off site or not they actually brought in line. So yeah the virtual. Yeah it's all the way across so you can. You can see two inch in this game. It was a millimetre offside but at least it helps you determine faster and quicker and more decisively whether that is putting straight edge right ruler their freight rate across and now you can really tell whether the players flip was passed we still do have a blue light although we have para laxed hockey. We don't have that in in soccer of like the institute going debt. So that's that's a little bit difficult hockey fans. Let me let me tell you this right now if you think video. Replay is bad and ruining hockey. You haven't watched soccer. It's atrocious. How bad it is. It's 'cause you're you're taking things away by a millimeter. You're taking things away if you're outside you're offside roles new rules if the thing we've talked about this before on the podcast what you're looking for are ways to make the stop a shorter right and the guys who do the analysis on the soccer games They talked about that and not the fans wanted the gentlemen that who scored earlier on. She's Joan who who scored who. It was his first goal so he celebrating. And he doesn't and then the fans don't get a chance and then there's going to be that delay and again we talked about it before they're gonNA be the seventh game of the Stanley Cup file and so if we can get to it quicker and I think there are ways and there will be ways as technology and you get used to adobe faster ways to to get to a decision quicker. That's supposedly player in puck tracking is going to bring it. That would be my answer to. The question is player in Puck. Tracking is not there yet. It's coming though and you also you're familiar with it for your work with tennis channel. Able to get those views so quickly with an IT's down to the millimetre. Yeah but there's there's no question of error that's generally understood. Everybody accepts the margin of it right like it's close enough. That goes one way or the other the next challenge you get. We'll bounce your so that they could blow it up and if they could add those lines on review. I think that helps. I'm excited for player in tracking even just for your job because instead of you drawing on telestrator Jim. There's going to be a computer program that will be able to pull up at. You'd be the highlight and have a puck tracer and do all these other. It's GonNa be awesome and the TV networks already. Investing Fox NBC Sports Net of all body in a share of the new technology. So they have a say see players again. Use the information data available. It's like analytics now. You use you think can help you but I can imagine the player. That's now twenty seven years old and from one year to the next he drops a half a mile an hour on a slapshot half a mile an hour on his skating and now they're looking at that and they're trying but it was interesting a practice today. I don't mean this as a negative at all but it's just a different skating style the kings that are drill at the end where you had a rabbit out in front and the other guy is chase and go around the ice surface. You go around. And that's well Austin Wagner who I would say would probably be the top end speed guy if you just if you're able to measure the fastest speed hit. He might be the king's fastest when he was going. He's a straight line guy. Nothing wrong with that. So when they were doing the around he was near. The back of a pack now could have been an off day. Could be sick. Could be there could be but it just interesting how tracking. You're we'll help really dissect what's going on. It's common supposedly. It'll be ready for the playoffs. But I'll believe it when I see it. This one is from Christina Oliver. What are your favorite Mel Brooks movies? Wow pick what very simple for me. I don't know if I've seen a billion of them or all of them or even close to all but if young Frankenstein is in category then walk this way this way. It's in the movie. What Hump. Yes what. I'm abby normal. I'm glad we're in agreement on this. We're we actually agree on something that was that is a classic blazing. Saddles is good but young Frankenstein. Timeless blazing saddles skied aged a lot. It's you can't make that movie today. Put it that way. Hugh cannot make that movie today and get away with it. Here's one from our good buddy ran elkins known as Larry David. Have you noticed the Kings? Or One of the few teams who do not salute the home crowd after a win like a stick salute. Is that something a coach or captain decides. We don't need to be the hurricanes. But he wants to know why the the king's don't salute do a stick salute for the fans. We get this question a lot we do. And I've I've asked Andre About it and I think they have discussed it. The one thing that he brought up was it has to be unanimous amongst players the coaches the upper management which is a good thing right for captain you want it to be unanimous. This is again. This is my opinion about it. This is just me speaking. I think it goes back to. When this current core group was formed and learned how to become a winning that was under Dean Lombardi under Darryl Sutter under guys that in this aspect of our industry would be considered more conservative. More old-fashioned they really preached even Keel not overly doings and again. I don't think saluting the fans after a game is over doing I'd to see it but I'm just trying to go based on what I believe. I was here during that regime and then they went to Stanley cups with that atmosphere. And I think it's just part of their DNA that they don't want to be showing now and they believe that segment of their personality was a factor in them winning the two Stanley Cups. So it's in them now and they don't and then I just take it another step and this is only. My opinion did not discuss this relaunching. Its I don't think that they want after a couple of teams started to do it. I just didn't since they weren't doing at the copycats they don't WanNa just jump on board and that's now again. Well I'd like to see it. Yeah I'd like to see a way for it anyway. We can acknowledge the people that support our team is. You know we're all for it but it's a great question. I understand a again these opinions. I was here during that formation of this group looking from the outside not in the locker room and then I bring up right now. The thing that brought to my attention was Tom McLellan. The new guy on the block comes in and he says our team is very quiet very stone. They don't show a lot of emotion. That's part of that. Even keeled nature and I think that falls into the category of a post game acknowledgement whether I agree or not. That's where we're at fault the way that I used. We talked to these guys all the time. That kind of thing doesn't really fit their personalities. They're not showing type and they view it. I believe they view doing sticks loot as showy and contrived. I can totally see that being the perspective. They're workmanlike right. There were there. That's the way they earn too. Styling cops they celebrate a goal. Do There's no choreographed celebration the steep none. You Have Kuznetsov with the bird you've got Pinera and with the kick you've got a whole bunch around the league to my knowledge. I'm just thinking one by one of all the guys in the team. I can't think of one player. Who's Don like a consistent? Choreographed goal celebration. That's just not the DNA of this team and it's not meant as disrespect to the fans the stick so I just think they viewed as contrived again we. It may evolve. I mean this surprise. This core group is getting smaller and smaller and smaller right and there will be a point where none of them around. I mean just age time. We'll take and maybe the new group. The new regime comes in and just has a different perspective. Yeah may not. I'd like to see a post game thing even if it is a little bit contrived just seems it's weird to say now because it wasn't the case for a long time in hockey to have that sort of stick salute. It is associated largely with the Rangers. I think they do that so like nobody's going to do the storm surge or something like it because that's Carolina's thing. They did it first. Anyone tries to do that is just a copycat so I can see that absolutely being a thing you can do the cutting edge come up with something new then sure do it but hey I I'd love to find a way to do it. There are some teams In college that had one where instead of getting in a circle and doing a stick salute or something. They'll go to the Blue Line and tap their stick one antagonistic and the other. It just depends on a fine. I think I've mentioned it comes into my head where we're talking about this. I'm not a fan of the the celebration line. That goes back to the bench. Oh yes I think. That's to choreograph for me. I just think it's after the goal scored the hug and you get some reaction there. Sometimes of depending on how big that goal is overtime no drew. Doughty and Calgary this the emotion comes out all those things but I just I understand the evolution of it hockey's eighteen gain and when you go back to the bench and everyone all five guys skate by Touched gloves with everybody. I understand it's a unity thing but I just think it's choreographed. I don't like I will say I'M NOT GONNA lose any sleep over. I don't think a lot about it but I think it fits the same to Corey. I will say. My favorite choreographed receiving line celebration was after Jake Muhsin Inadvertently elbowed Alec Martinez. That's his thing. Now he goes and he elbows the guys on the even Toronto. I've seen him do it. That's the thing now. You don't like that is true. I I love the Muslim This was a good one. We got some good questions and keep them coming. We'll try to put together another episode. The next couple of days that subscribe Button Jim. I'm going to say to you once happy New Year now. I don't have to save you happy New Year to you. Alex and I'm happy that you're not GonNa save you again actually might on television now is I am thinking about. Are you going to have to. You could say happy new year to everyone except by. Maybe I will do that. Because then they'll get people scratching their heads. Because I see sometimes in. Our mentioned people are like man. You too must really not like each other. Like you're you're at each other's throats all the time. If only they knew the conversations we had a dinner happy new year everyone. Just we'll see you next Dan.

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First Full Week of the Season and Growing the Game

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1:12:29 hr | 3 months ago

First Full Week of the Season and Growing the Game

"He's a fat stack. Goes down again. We'll rain your everybody. What's going on. Welcome back to another episode of the clapper report on justin. I got my boy damian. Here we are going to be discussing the nhl the past week We're gonna also talk about our keeping up. The i actually said keeping Keeping up with the blue jackets. And yeah good episode. Yeah i'm excited actually not really. Because i'm sure we'll talk about our our teams. I'm a little disappointed but yeah overall pretty interesting week in the nhl. At least i think yeah. I definitely i mean. I'm cautiously optimistic about the So we'll have to them at some point later on but Yeah i don't know Also yeah all right well. We'll we'll talk about the fantasy. I guess before we started Are hardcore song of the week. Hell yeah so this. This song actually just came out. I think yesterday it's by ban bugging. They originally bugging out but they got like a lawsuit or whatever from this stupid other band and they have a song called brain freeze. And it's a it's a pretty lit I will go to that show we. Yeah i think we mentioned them like the first episode. Who were like. Oh yeah barbara but pay. Yeah wow yeah a bugging out with no option Does that feel so long ago. Now until it's been eleven months almost not feels like. I don't know i feel longer than that to me. It feels like it's been for ever since i've been to show. I don't even know the last one i went to. I guess it was. The was the backtrack show where that was the leslie too. I think so. Honestly i don't really remember i mean i guess i can look at my snap like memories. Whatever but about posits lascaux. I think the last one i went to was on the girl biscuits mind for show. That was fun. Do i left halfway through gorilla biscuits but the mind dude. I stage of like five times hit my head on the speaker. You're going through it. Probably not dude. Sorry about that no. It's all good yeah Yeah but bugging their fire. Raw vocals Just like groovy. You know like you can dance you can jive and you can have the time your life out to Yes that's my heart song. A brain freeze by bugging. Of course as usual i went the exact opposite of you like normal with another heavier song. Band called. harm's way they're pretty fun. Heavy fast paced and The song i chose was become a machine and yeah just again like just an overall heavy sawn at know. I just love to like screaming my car. Basically and the guy with this huge to jack out of his mind dennis Like the whole front of his body is tattooed in. It's like a scary looking man. Yeah yeah i mean. I've seen them probably two or three times. Now i think at least twice and Do fucking huge. He scary shit. I felt like if i saw him. In the pit runaway. I know i know it sounds like a little bitch move but like no exaggeration. This guy's gigantic. No he's definitely one of the base people that i've ever seen you know that that's my. That's my goal. And that's why i'm listening to their song up kidding but but Yeah from ben. Listen to and that's this week's core songs of the week. I guess she's ready to talk some hockey dude. Hell yeah all right sweet. We want to start with the drama. Yeah why not our favorite stolman. Our favorite a segment of what the past two weeks now. So it's another third week that we're gonna be talking about the blue jackets. Yeah keeping up with the blue jackets and you know it's funny because i think you were reading a rumor that was going on. That was like oh how close the blue jackets and the jets were to deal and literally the next day i think the next morning. Actually the trade happened while we don't reporting online yet So the trade. It was a between the blue jackets and jets for So let me let me phrase it better. Sorry so the winnipeg jets traded patrick line in jack russell vic to the blue jackets in exchange for peer. Look to a third rounder Complete blockbuster The jets were retaining twenty six percent of lining salary. I think that was just to make the catholic even on the cockpit and line a is done the season doi- has another season after this one Rostov exci- into two year extension or a two year contract with the blue jackets for one point. Nine anna yes. What did you think of this trade. I i mean. I guess we had a little bit of a heads up but i was still kinda like just wandering originally did happen I mean it was two teams that got players that didn't want to be in that town. You know what i mean like. They wanted nothing to do there in Sorry i forgot his name while wanted nothing to wanna nowhere to be there so it makes sense as to why those two or the people that that actually move because are you need to get another like superstar but superstar but you know a star player. Basically and i think the deal made sense I think both teams are getting stuff out of it. And i don't really know if there's a clear concise winner. At least in my opinion. I think both of them benefit. Well yeah i mean do. I mean in my opinion. I don't know exactly. Because i'm not really a crazy fan of them. But i think that i think that both teams are gonna benefit pretty well from the street. Oh definitely i mean will soon now the jets have a one two punch of mark shy flee and peo- dubois like that's nuts But so but i jack ross vic i dunno man i think he's a preussen people wrong. You know if he is actually you utilized correctly with blue jackets. And you'll patrick line. I mean hopefully he can finish. You know I don't know. I don't know i feel like the blue jackets it. Yeah i mean. I guess also it's gonna come down to is if like ball teams can rookie layers. Yeah other safely. A returns and flying resigns like that's great for the organization and you have a stud player. Basically that's great i. Just if they did all this and they lose him. The net. Very next season i mean. Obviously there's a loss there are fado you know. So he doesn't have much a you know but look what happened with the why he was an hour. Fay look what happened. Like i guess are being are fai- like it means something but it also doesn't at the same time like sure you lose leverage with the team. But as a pure luke dubois showed there are things that you can do to a for some hands. Basically i mean. I don't think it would ever go to that extent especially after lash that he got from it. Backlash from that I mean i'm sure there's other ways and other schemes people come up with to kind of force hands but who knows knows. Yeah i mean you know. It's really funny and i mean the first thing that i thought of this trade was because i didn't actually believe it like when you were home at the rumor is like yeah. Yeah how toward rela is gonna handle line. Manson other a big part of columbus system is like Sacrificing body played gritty. play defensively. you know it's like line isn't really that great of a defensive player arena. He hasn't shown that he is in winnipeg. So you know it's like can he play into the system. Will he be in the doghouse alike. Willie been toward velez doghouse. But i don't know the you know And like ken everybody. Yeah that's definitely a huge question mark in going back on tour thing like it's clear that it's either you're a big fan of him or you hate him so hopefully line aching get on his good side in Kind of changes game a little bit but who knows. Maybe that's exactly what needs to you. Know to to progress further in his career like if he adapts to a different kind of play style in infuses the two that he has. And maybe take off in you know in columbus so i think it should be interesting to watch. Yeah i mean. I mean with the way that Alexander texas playing you know maybe linux slides in and takes fully no spot on the first line To make a line of patrick line a tech see a and yorkshire and that could be a crazy good first line want to take a look at your lines are now just because interested now. Yeah ainhoa if he were to be able to slide into that power play the piano. I mean if he could slip in there. I mean i feel like that's a pretty solid top six at that got going for them. i even be third line could be like yes especially with russell lick sliding in there too with akerson kind of upset that i drop atkinson. Now oh we can't give too many updates come on. What are you doing church your true. I know we always spoil it but no. I i think that the blue jackets did they probably did win. Especially this year first year. I think they win. Yeah It all depends on whether or not they can keep lying I don't know any no. It's like but i don't know man. Isn't it crazy though. Like i feel like i feel like the winnipeg jets are like the columbus blue jackets in canada and vice versa. Feeling team in a sense. You know i can see that though. They both play pretty gritty Except except hello is a nuts goaltender. Yeah i could see that you know They do have top talent. But it kinda like you know fades away It'll be interesting to see. You know. I mean damn like they're making me nervous cox play the jets tomorrow. I believe but i mean thankfully do vase not in yet. He's got a quarantine for another week. I believe yeah They have team pretty pretty long. Yeah yeah it's like the two weeks. I wouldn't even line is going to be able to be. I don't know if it's two weeks as well. Yeah i again. this is just me thinking. I heard this. I heard that a coming into the. Us is a little bit shorter. But it's going to be all relative by the end of the season yes I want to also talk about Toward rela just like still talking about dubois. Any though i mean granted people keep asking him about to bar. But i mean of blah's gauging yet but was agent is like yo you need to basically like. I want him. Stop talking about my my client. And i just think that's so interesting. It's just like to while did like one interview after. And that was it and tortorella just keeps getting asked and he keeps eve's dropping him you know it's like i don't know it. Well yeah tortorella. Plane that hard hardball guy of like or don't care. Basically like the tough guy attitude that he has and i feel like this was like the perfect storm from because it's giving them all the publicity that he wants he's gonna talk about you know. Yeah you know what's funny about the dubai interview that i washed and it's like he said that that i find that he didn't have any tortorella. He loved him as a coach and he loved his teammates. And that was just like sand. Damn so what is it lake. Well i mean he was just given a hockey answer. Probably because i think what happened was that it wasn't just like a monotone like. Oh yeah you know. He was a good coach Really knew is doing is like no like. I seem to be like you know like wiping away a tear so it seemed like genuine Genuine response you know nachos cookies. Yeah no because. I saw feel like i saw that Tortorella said that yasser we. We've clashed heads a bunch of times or whatever. Wait hold it. Where's the post now are he said. have lucan had conflict. God damn right. We add conflict. So i mean it feels like we're getting like you know mixing those there and maybe or are we reading too heavy into that quote troy's it taken out of context you know it's like i mean it. They could meant had gio conflict that day that he was skating around. It's like oh you're damn right. we did. You know he wasn't skating. You know i dunno true. 'cause i have conflict to. I'd be pretty pissed. Yeah i mean. I hope we eventually one day get the the real story. The real answer kind of leaks one day Some interviews happened in a couple of years. And we we get the resolution to Keeping up with the blue jackets two. I would love some really juicy fucking story. Imagine like a an hour talk of from l. d. or from Towards like a tell all book so what happened this season. I mean honestly. It's probably just as simple as he didn't want to be in columbus. you know. Yeah as much submission was something bigger but you know. I guess we'll have to. We'll have to stay tuned. yes So in other things stay tuned about is More teams with Games being postponed dan. You know have a wait to watch and you know i'm referring to the golden knights but Who just got me thinking. It's like man like how are they going to ensure that everybody plays the same money games. How are they gonna play. The same amount of games in also was two point of the taxi squad. I thought the whole purpose of the taxi squad was so that way you have more players fill in and they have the cancels many games. What thing is just a matter of like a protocol like oh like you know somebody on the team who was like at practice or something you know well that touch infected what happened with the capitals then because they had a couple of positive cases yeah. They didn't postponed games. They use the taxi squad. News players play. I don't know. I think like they never postponed. Gain the capitals. They kept playing. And then all the way vegas like they stop playing because they have a couple of people which i get like you know safety first and do what you gotta do but i just i. I don't understand the the different protocols for different teams. You know you know you know like certain situation probably worse for the nice than it was the capitals but up from i understanding was only like four or three people sick on. The night's other apparently had had a couple of coaching staff. That was sick too. So maybe maybe he wants it. Hits like the coaching staff. And things like that. Maybe kinda looked to cancel knows but it's unfortunate for for your ni- that tonight's aren't playing. Yeah i mean it's just i. I really can't stop thinking about like the end of the season. You know oh yeah like. I honestly have a feeling like there's going to be like no way that this is the last time you know. And it's like the gains postponing its. How many games do you actually have supposed phone for. You don't have any more time left. 'cause they have a set time. They want playoffs to be. You know so honey games. Can you know exactly. And also i kind of think in a sense that They were kind of hoping that. Maybe you know vaccines kinda ramped up by a couple of months in 'cause you know just a few months ago or month or two ago we were like. Oh yeah vaccines rolling out like we're good. We're good. We're good obviously a lot slower than i think. Most general publican probably nhl like you know. Upper management said Thought that it would roll out a little bit quicker on top of that you also have. I think was it was like dallas. Right where they didn't play a bunch of games in the beginning date scheduled those games that they Postponed so i agree with you. I don't know you know like let's say this happens to the nights the second time or even a third time in. Oh that cancel games like you're gonna have to start pushing back the season at that point so. I'm sure they have contingency plans as to you know what they're gonna do if it gets pushed back but hopefully knock on wood. We kinda get through that without it. But i i fully agree with you there. Something's going to have to give eventually probably will. I was kinda thinking instead of pushing the sees back. They might do. The point percentage thing again. You know playoffs like they did with The cova cup. Yeah i that's a good idea. But i don't know i mean i mean a little bit. I feel like it's a little bit different now because you didn't wanna play like two weeks of hockey like to get to the playoffs. Canada's wanted to get right into it limits many teams as possible from it. Though i i feel like now that they're playing a game a bit different. They're probably going to like preferred to get all the games done But you're right if they have to. I mean that's an easy fallback. I don't doubt that that's on the table for what they're gonna do in the future if it comes to it. Yeah that's a great idea. Yeah also i just want to go back and say Forty eight hours because line a Came down to columbus today a few hours ago. So you just got his a forty eight hour quarantine then he can play so he on sunday. We'll get we'll get to see him. Play sunday. I think that he can actually play which is nuts but do boss was friendly. Yeah yeah for sure crazy. That's what i thought So oh jesus we keep doing that. It's so difficult not seeing your face you know i know yeah and also i think that the server we're using squad cast is like delayed i feel like we're kinda like talking over each other a little bit more than we were on zoom so mike o. Back but i think it's Our internet lean. See right now is like putting us off if a little awkward sometimes. Don't use their talk about my hamster like that. I was trying to put some blame on me doodo shining. Take some of it for you. Listen that's not going to help you guys. Get your internet fix what happened dude. I told you is going to be bullshit. I called it. 'cause i said look like oh you also great i go watch is still going to be shit. It's still should well. You got us all hyped up or i think of your mom who got us all hyped up that you know cable vision came down. And they They gracie guys with fast internet for once bullshit she. She fell for the pr tactics that they use on. Everybody and i was like there is no way i. I don't think. I answered the text with my mom had signed. I think it was just like. I said okay or something like that. Like i didn't believe i wanted as dude. I think i going to need you to take a picture of your router. Just like you see what it looks like. See what would it be may enter twist in the past. Oh no so. She goes the by three. Today will be fix. He say switching us over so hopefully. We'll have good speed on in wifi and i go. Oh nice switching us over to what she goes. I have no clue aloe. i'm like. What would you switching over to. What well we're going to have to start the go fund me for your new router. So that way we could save our virtual meetings. Y'all been saying this for a year and i'm still waiting for it. Look i'll i'll make it this weekend. That's my that's my goal this weekend. Start your go. Fund me get justin a router or or here. We have doj coin hits a dollar. I'll buy it for you. Yeah why not. That's craziness like we won't get into stock talk but what's going on on wall street. Now is nuts dude. Everything's like getting fucking me. I can't fuck get these apps to work to invest in a fucking annoying. Oh yeah right now. it's You're not going to be like Especially if you're going like robin hood weeble them like that's it's not gonna work right now. What are the other. what is there more. Yeah alex explain it all later. But it's there's a lot going on there like blocking the stocks from being traded as sort of like stock manipulation type stuff that way the price goes down but it's not working and it's super legal and there's a lot of like back and forth going online right now but but anyway moving on. I think you had something here about the truck brother's car. I can never say that should hook shuck could. Yeah the chuck brothers They both have very bad tempers and clearly shows So did you see the videos. I'm actually bring it up now. The matt could chuck woman extremely hysterical. The brady was less funny. But i i don't know it. It didn't make sense as to why he was heated. Like that So he's like a blown up on the ice. Yes so makhachov. At the end of the at the end of the maple leafs flames. Game mech jake. Muhsin of the maple leafs flicks a puck towards very lightly flicks the puck towards ca chuck and matthew shut goes after him and he just looks like such a clown going after him. The like the game's over everything. Whatever and it's just like he's bugging out but then he starts punching shit breaking sticks like it's like any is clumsily hopping down the The tunnel at the end of the instance like me. You look like an idiot dude. After he was just Who is at nez at anderson. Yeah oh my god. Why is he always campbell. Okay but i am watching the clip now for the million And so the won't brady chuck happened last night. against the Gut at on the connects. He threw like here. He did like a little cross checking the back. You know just being a pain in the neck And brady sucks going after him zach. Mcewen goes to fighting. They start fighting Constructs helmet falls off immediately So the refs coming to stop it. And then a conjecture asserts like bugging out to he punches like like something and then Stops because he doesn't wanna freak out just saw his brother d like the day before. I just find it's so comical. Hell like you know here. You have these really to talented players. Who are also very physical impact like and they're usually like their jobs to be under people's skin other people are getting under their skin and i just find that just hysterical How the tables turn like that. You know i it's. I'm watching all three clips now like these guys are hotheads man. That's not while they're bugging out exactly. It's just like hell no option bugging out there bugging out with no option i guess. Now they're bugging option yemen Yeah i just figured it'd be a touch on that because i'm down for some Our hate brady chuck as much Could really cause the cops don't ever played them but Fuck give this looks like Some real like like punching the wall energy you know what i mean like like playing video games in her mom will bring them up like fucking mountain dew or something so he's punching the wall right. What is going on all right. Well that's interesting that's crazy. I can't believe it it's. It's funny that they're the two brothers doing know exactly. This is like damn it runs in the family. 'cause keith kachuck their dad was always bugging out from what i see. He was always. Yeah on it really find what a family family. What a family failure. Losers not Another thing i wanted to touch on briefly how. Gm gr jr. jim rutherford from the penguins resigned as gm after fucking this franchise Yeah i don't know. I mean they need some fixing. I mean. they're not doing the worst right now. But a really only because of crosby malcolm you know. Yeah well what would they say that. It was for personal reasons right. Do you think he got pushed out or was that like was a personal reasons going on. I mean honestly could literally it could be. I don't think we have enough information to say because like manna could be literally anything. Yeah i mean hell. He had diarrhea and they could call the personal reasons he hanging like. Yeah like i don't know. I i think that also too. Because he's been in the league for a while you know Maybe just folks time steph down you know. yeah now. Check is gonna come in k. Tickets for the need to get on the they're doing like a lawsuit against them or something. Yeah i think he got like a year ban from the league or something like that and I think there might be along the lines of. I'm not one hundred percent so don't want like one hundred percent confirm that but i'm pretty sure there's something else besides that Ban going on the. I think it's like from Man I actually really forgot fuck. Yeah yeah like something about prospects and having like too much information Or something along those lines. Yeah which i mean. Hey it's fair 'cause you know it's just really funny how this guy who essentially knows nothing is clean is like an are. They were saying that he's like an analytic genius. Any comes into doesn't do anything this franchise i though. Yeah now. he's going to go do the same thing for the penguins. Kenny i wish but not happening. I mean you know it just comes in and totally wrecks yet. Right i mean. Hey it's fine because in five years sales raft another top five player of all time you know and psycho fucking ridiculous insane seriously. Well i already a- of our Like the holy go into our teams. No i'm i'm ready to pour my heart out for the islanders poor performance from this past week not play to not playing hot like at all and like it's just frustrating. Play watching them. You know what i mean like. It's good it's just annoying us. How yeah i mean. Like to start the season they. They're a little flaky. You know what i mean like. It wasn't like it wasn't like exciting besides like that first game like they. They played really good and then played really bad. Then they kinda just hit like this road Wall in the needs to stop playing like they squeaked out that game against the boston they won that first game against the devils and then right after that like granted. It's only three games but like it's like they ran into a wall do so that first matchup against jersey didn't even score a goal like they got fucking blanked by backup goalie. There was like no energy. Felt like i just. I don't know and then going into washington washing them. Play the capitals. That first game didn't look themselves. I know they kind of kept it in and they. They kept the game close. Had down to a minute left and then you lose it like you lose the point with less than a minute i. I don't know like a team like the islanders especially where they were last season. Especially what they're aspiring to be this year. Unlike the coach in the mentality that they have like you would expect for them to play stronger into to settle down especially late in games like that and games that are that you can at least squeak out a point. You know i of want to throw all the blame on legal. Calmer off for that all of it. If i know. I know i know it's not really well deserve but i don't know if you know exactly what happened in that third period but he takes that bad five minute call boarding which he typically does in the third period he always gets like stupid a fucking penalties at screw the team over in a third and then right after leaving the box. He said he sits on the bench for a little bit. And for some reason. Barry trotz is to throw him back on for the last minute. He gives up his man and sure enough. He scored the game. Winning goal. Like with less than a minute left. He just gave no effort of la. So i don't want to blame the entire game on commerce of but that last period was not pretty from him which honestly wasn't surprising at all. A lot of people were pissed off that he was even in the lineup. To begin with and then that was just like to add salt to the wound. You know what i mean. That's the thing. I feel like he's always screwing something up you know. He's not playing up to par with people who could be in the lineup. Well yeah i mean people since day one have been begging for walsham to be in the lineup. They've been begging begging begging to see scoring youth in the lineup a team. That's been struggling to score goals to go scores. People were gonna shoot the puck on net. Like i can't tell you how many times we're gonna watch power play of them. Just passing the puck to each other leaving a real. Yeah like poorly executed shots. It going into defenders. It's just like you can't win with them right now. With how they're playing in the offense at they're bringing up it's not like your top sixes carrying u Even in that game the first game against the capitals pavilion. It goes down with an injury. You'll lose him now for he's on the i. r. and who knows what he's going to be back so he he's missed a game and a half now and they haven't really said anything. I think it's a lower body injury from that mistaken that they disclose that much information but we have no clue how long that's going to be. You know know exactly. And i feel like also especially with covid. It's been very secretive with the injuries and stuff. You know what i mean. I feel like people are being switched. A day to day are not available like whoa. What are you doing like. Tell me what's going on. You know yeah yeah no. There's like no and also keep in mind. Though that barry trotz team has always been pretty secretive but to the extent that they're doing it right now. It's bothersome as a fan. Because you wanna know it's going to happen especially with byu who is supposed to have his breakout season this year. You know what i mean like. We're supposed to be all eyes on him to see him take his next step. you know. yeah no it's frustrating. And you know what they did in the second game against the capitals instead of putting in like a goalscorer on the second line to fill his shoes they put com robin there on second line on the second line. I mean they don't really have that much of options as far as like real real like season veteran debt. They really don't so. I kinda understand berries idea of trying to keep in You guys aren't gonna make mistakes. The makes mistakes but besides the point actually in his interview. Barry trotz said that the reason why he's key sticking with him is because he's a veteran who knows what to do and to keep his head down in place strong game or something along those lines very coach to do that. You know i mean but it s something that his system. The islanders system. And you know it's like it's going to be a little bit to transition to a bit of a younger goalscoring team. Which is why. I'm glad that they put washerman glad that he has to. You know exactly exactly so was ranting and raving about walsham and we wanted him in and sure enough his first game in as you mentioned scored a goal so that's great news And even staying on the youth adoption. He looks really good. Say yes spoiler. Alert a picked him up in Fantasy he picked him up fantasy. And honestly i think that was a good movie especially with with how he's been playing moving the puck and even on the power play. So i i feel like adoption is going to have a great great season and honestly it's making the loss of dante's feel little bit easier honestly yeah. I didn't expect no adoption playing as well as As he as he is. You know As i feel like. I'm better at scouting defenseman but But you know it's like watching him play you know it's like he. He's not flashy by any means but you know he's He steady for somebody who just turned what Turned twenty one. I think are just turned. Twenty yeah no. He's a very young kid. Twenty one one. Yeah and I think he was born in two thousand so like holy shit. I'm getting old. It's like weird saying that you know who is two years older than it will. I'm only two years older than him. But it still feels weird to say that a guy who's born in the year two thousand and same age as my sister's playing in the nhl and we're talking about him right now you know. Yeah i mean he's only a year old my sister just like jesus christ like i dunno. It's nutty but But you know me. Yeah he he looks like he belongs you know and That's really important right now. The islanders need that like you said especially with the loss of dante's in the off season In rid of andy greene and putting dhabi and davante on that line that would have been nuts. But obviously we can Yeah we're playing. Repaying fucking guys komarov overpaying matt martin which i love him by the way but you have a guy like ross. Johnson is the younger version of. And you're playing the tool in the same lineup. So okay. But i gotta say i gotta say martin does give energy to the team know. Matt martin does give energy to the team. My gripe anger is with johnson. Like i don't understand why they're doing what they're doing like playing the two of them at the same time they're literally the same as act player. I'm not upset about the martin. Signing i just. I wish it was a way that we could have kept a taste. Honestly i would have been okay with taes over martin to be honest with you and i know that's probably not a popular opinion but i'll believe me. No i i. I have my own opinions about fucking vancouver stupid. That's about all. I wanna complain about the last thing. I'll say that we can talk about the good knox and i probably should have said this in the beginning do these. Two games against the capitals happened without ovechkin crews. Netsov or love and samsa sampson. I'm not being net so it's just like yeah it's like these are games that you have to win especially against a team. That's not themselves. I also think that shows a testament to how much deeper this capitals team has than people thought you know. I mean they're only a couple of stanley cup. But i think that's just show that they still have what it takes you know but it it's embarrassing for an islanders organization is supposed to be taking that next step. Yeah but that's also about them this week hopefully next week. I'm a little lighter nehra scoring a couple more goals in sticking with a scoring fucking lineup. Hopefully yeah i hope so. For your sake. How aunt actually for for change. The canucks actually had a complete opposite of what the islanders had. Well i mean they. They had with the anyway. What i mean to say is that the cox went three no this week a home or they went. I'm sorry while they went three in one. Technically if you count from like our last episode but yes so they when Three during the workweek anna. Yeah pretty nuts. They senators three times in a row. So is not saying much Which is why wind. Very cautiously optimistic. Which is smart which is smart. Yeah i'm not getting hope. I mean they're back to five hundred. They're five and five right now sats good but like you know man. This team is just confusing. You know but i mean pederson got a few points right so now he has six points as opposed to one So he's got six points in ten games. I think quinn hughes holy fucking shit. Can he put up points dude here. He's gone off he has like. I think it's thirteen points. He's tied for second league in points or something like that. Like bash it. i mean granted. He's playing the best defensively like he was last season but like yo he's insane i mean like i feel like every time there's a goal he gets a point you know. Yeah i think. I mean playing good and i'm glad that they're playing better from a boy denko. All my god is speaking of them. Coco holy fucking shit the other night. Where was it. Forty two saves on forty three shots. Dude shish he looked like bubblegum co like which is which is good. It's great it's good. I mean you know the cox need that and hope. He played really well last night too. I mean i think he saved thirty four and thirty five shots like or something like that like he like if they're playing like that and the top line of scoring lights out for half of the other canadian teams. You know than the than the jets senators and oilers need to like fallback if this hotline can keep producing holy shit speaking of top line. I gotta say brock besser. Have you seen y'all do. He is back. He is back to the first goal that he scored last night. Oh my god power. Play has been pretty easy to read you know. So they pass it back to quinn hughes then hughes pass to miller and then he does a quick pass to herat and one times in right. Whatever that's been working but now teams have caught on to that so it was best to do that. Sits on the goal line basically like maybe five feet from goaltender facing the blue line anyway to the puck weights the puck. He got the puck. Yesterday went to go look for a pass and then just skated right in front of matt murray pulled it back and just fucking raped it like. I nearly poop my pants. When i saw it like dude it was not. I can't bring you. i can't blame you for that. So nuts brock. Beyers back but you know i. I'm a again cautiously optimistic. They play the jets tomorrow night. They don't the jets don't have the boss still thankfully but I am so nervous you know. I don't know if they could beat. Hello book you know so Who knows what's up if they can maintain if the top line can produce I don't know. I don't know i mean. Let's just hope that they got some steamier they can Transition it against the real test of a team rather than the senators in. Oh i also say on the rookies on the team. Look really good Neal's hug lender only local lender ear and jalen chatfield. Chattels is like a defensive defense playing really well for somebody who i think. He was drafted. He's either undrafted like seventh round. And i mean you know. He's twenty two or twenty three now. He's an older rookie. But like these plane. Really fucking whoa and levies playing well for a defenseman. Same as dopson you know. He's very calm. Stop flashy but then hogue lander bro. Neal's hog lanner hoaglund. National has one of his older dude. He's nuts like his five thirty five. S yes eric. I was looking at a different thing for us. Play for a rookie and again somebody born in two thousand at the end of two thousand december twentieth. Basically tony two thousand one. What the hell isn't that crazy. I saw i just thinking of men. Were getting old. Where did we go wrong. Why are we okay. Shit i went. I went wrong. I'm just wrong. Where's my eight hundred twenty five thousand contract a year though. Yeah for real. How all even five hundred thousand dollar contract year. Five hundred thousand. I would do. I would work any job. All your show dirtiest jobs you remember that job. I would do any one of those five hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah i would do any single one of those jobs dude. Honestly i'd probably do them for two fifty a year. not. I'm going to live. And i don't want saw short without just in case wants to come to us with an offer. All right kenny. I mean yeah. You're right yeah Eight hundred eight hundred fifty thousand. Take it or leave. It trigger leave at ticket booth. Why pay somebody else seventy k. When you could pay us eight hundred fifty come on actually into hard workers here in quite literally. The laziest person in the world are here. me too dude phony all right. You want to move on here. We have any last notes. You wanna make about the connects No Now now i town. I'm just nervous. Holy keep the light tone next weekend Both of 'em abba gouda. Couldn't week here. Yeah i agree. It should be good. She'll be fine. Hopefully cou cou so I see here that we put our top three teams of the week. Yeah yeah I gotta say my first one's dallas dallas. Just little bro. What you stole from me. Oh we're gonna have. We're probably going to have similar. Once we will man they are possessed care holy shit. They're they're like they're nuts they're nuts. they're nuts. I don't care what anybody says They terrify me. They're nuts and their jersey. Looks not stupid. I know you hate it on it but it looks like balloon now terrible. It looks good on the ice bro. It's good on the ice in bro. What are you talking about. It looks good. I thought it looked sick. Well yeah it looks taking me. It makes me sick. Terrible terrible absolutely discussed sir. Well whatever. I liked it but no. They're playing insane hockey right now. Real in you know radulov Rupe behind Denis gurianov like they are they're they're killing it quite frankly like it's just like nuts like watching them play like then the domination against the predators on my god was crazy to is the injury to Jamie benn dude. They saw broken. Sh- ride no did. Nothing has changed. And i have to say honestly. I wasn't expecting it. You see. I think we were watching it together when it happen Buckled oh you're talking all yes yes we were we were or we were on The coastal after our last recording. Because i think it happened. That friday night and It's just fucking buckled in. Who knows how long he's going to be out now. Hopefully it's nothing like terrible. But i don't think we heard anything yet right now. Honestly i haven't looked. I haven't looked i'm looking now and i don't see any like news about it but uh sox yeah i know especially such a huge part of their team. You know the captain Just crazy you know. it's just yet seriously He oh so he can still return this weekend. If he's clear to play he's been skating during He's been staying around so okay all right so hopefully it seems like it's not that bad. Yeah hopefully good for good good especially with the addition of him. I feel like it's going to be full steam ahead for that dallas stars team. Yeah definitely i guess. I'll keep my number three. What was your number two. I'll i didn't. I didn't rank them based on that i just i just threw three me either. I just. I'm used to say that. I guess over ranking shit that we've been doing So another team. That i have on there is the bruins okay. I thought that passer knock wood like his absence would and chara and crew would slow them down but they have not slowed down a. They don't look like they've really missed a beat They're five one one. They went three no this week. Also plus nine goal differential. The they look They looked great. I'm shocked at the islanders especially with the way they've been playing as of late. We're able to sneak that game away from them. Yeah but if you think about it. That's one regulation loss that's insane. They're they're on a tear gas for real. Like i honestly did not expect it like at all really i mean. I think it's still had them go a number one but the start at they're having I mean i yeah. I don't know i mean i thought that krug impasse knock. Wood dip their Their point production a little bit more. But i don't know it's nuts to me at least it is a good line up right. Now they're moving full steam ahead so it's kinda scary for me. Yeah going to be scary. The capitals are scary. Toubro i have them on my list. I don't know the way they're playing without their key stars. And i'm sorry if i cut you off. Is there anything you want to say about that last one now. Say okay fast. Which is crazy. Because actually i didn't even realize when is it. I think it's On saturday we're going to get the bruins versus the capitals. So definitely gonna be sure off. They're playing at the same time as islanders faulk. Anyway i have on my list have been playing really well especially for a team without like their key players angle tender Yeah i mean there's not really much else to say. Two of the games were against like an island or team. That's not even really playing well but Their entire start to the season had the standings open but closed on now There at the top of the east. I mean they're five. Oh and three no regulation. Lafayette a team. That you know we thought was going to be slow was going to be old. They lose a couple of guys in there and they're still holding true and charge just got his first goal as a capital. So it's looking full steam ahead for the capitals which is not a good look for me know exactly like eat. I'm looking at sayings right now but like one win in near. You know right there you know. I know it's still early. But you know i hear you. Yeah no it certainly still early. But i think it's just scary. How they're playing without key guys. You know i mean well. Yeah i mean i remember at the end of last week with ovechkin being out then how much it nearly lost me the week. You know So yeah. I don't know i hear that though. I mean it's like a similar thing boston. Yeah they're missing top guys and they're still finding a way to be at the top of the division so when games that So i have a joke team. I have an actual one might joke team. I say a joke. Because it's really just one person as john gibson on the ducks Each two games getting like insane amounts of sei's like energy you know. Imagine imagine john gibson on the bruins or the maple leafs lake where the golden knights. That's his the best goaltender in the league so far. Obviously it's a really large sample size. But he's playing phenomenal hockey. Imagine on a good team that'd be nuts man and i've said this for awhile i don't know i really do think that john gibson is mike. Top three hundred in the league It's just because he's in anaheim. He doesn't get. I mean right now so i mean he's three two and two right now he's got a one point. Eight seven goals against nine forty two. Save percentage like that's nuts. I mean yeah like the other people above them. They all have like three games played. It's like and so yeah. There are to be more inflated but john gibson's fucking nuts. You know i don't know crazy. He's crazy is playing great hockey right now But so my actual my actual Third team the montreal canadians. You know who okay. So the spanking of the connects. You know there's spanking journal plus thirteen goals against Plus thirteen goal differential Yet i mean there's not much to say other than their playing amazing. Yeah i mean. This is a team that i thought was going to be one of the worse in their division. No i know i know. Maybe i was obviously obviously wrong by that. They're playing well against every single team. just find ways to win games in having less regulation which right. Yeah no. they haven't so. I mean that's that's incredible for them. Good start i mean. They have a lot of shorthanded. Goals to I think they scored five shorthanded goals. Which is nuts already row already. In how many games. Seven games fee squad summit against connect saw me. Whatever i was gonna ask how many i think it was three. Three or four. Think the re Boy mannix sucking when they were playing the canadians. Like bad but Yeah it's my third time. Yeah that's my team as well looks like we were right that we were gonna have a lot of this teams. I guess it's really early on. There's nobody really to stand too far out yet. I mean honestly about the maple leafs. But i was like you know what i feel like. I was to be You know yeah. I was like expected. Yeah yeah yeah. I hear that i this is like late but apparently posture knocks gonna play saturday for the bruins. Whoa what really yeah. He's gonna play on saturday. A holy shit. That boston team is gonna get another fucking boost. Oh great they're going to be scared. Play it's getting rough in the eastern. Now you talking bad. It's like a it's a a bloodbath like there's so many like high powered teams in like division. It's not only know. Yeah like washington. Boston affiliate are already like locks. You know i think at least nine you have one more spot for essentially for other teams know. You're right so they gotta figure it out and they gotta figure it out fast. That islanders team they got to do something. Yeah all right but I guess we'll wrap things up here with our update on the fantasy league yen. Update of who won against the two of us. Your i've never been so pissed my life like you would think and honestly it's my fault. I have three vegas nights on my team which obviously not a good idea although. It's the best team to do that with. I think but whatever anyway they played arizona. They were playing coyotes that sunday. That last game scored one goal. I have max pacioretty mark stone and alec martinez unaided. Absolutely nothing for me on that last game and i think what i only lost by. I don't know probably twenty points at most probably a little less right I lost by five forty nine to five twenty seven. So yeah yeah. So i if one or two of them would have played somewhat. Well i easily could have been really close. Maybe even one that or you know and not only tat if malcolm dude what is he doing. I mean i'm kinda holding on at this point. Just hoping that he clicks because he has to write like he has out his. But like i'd be very surprised i just i was let down by my team at the end there but you your team is very well and i am honestly shocked by how close it was at the end. Yeah i agree. I mean you came back a little bit Kinda got me tight but you know whatever you know making great waiver claims and shit like that bro. Watch out no kidding. I mean yeah i uh oh wait i just another player ville no way. You go i gotta keep it under wraps. I don't know if i want to do this now. Now none but i'm not gonna say who this. Yes this week. What i did. As i mentioned. I picked up no adoption but i dropped ryan polat poch. He was he. He's a better just defense advancement in. He's not really getting fantasy points. whereas dobson as any was so Well good pickup. Yes that was. That was definitely one of my better pickups than i also picked up so since i never really was using philly now i dropped him in. I picked up. Justin schultz from capitals. First game he gave me jaime to assess can't complain. That's without a doubt great pickup for either right now. I'm losing by a by eighteen points to our boy martin but uh literally eighteen points so it's still project are your projected or he is he's projected by ten points okay but that could change easily. Ives need yeah i. I've learned that the projections are bullshit. Have a lot of day to day. It's just like telling me about Have two day two days now. Devante injured I don't know if it's a concussion again. Yeah that would suck He's uncertain for as he took a shot to the foot. Actually though whole free nothing terrible going on you know broken bones or anything like that. But then even Sorry thomas show hot. He has an undisclosed injury as well so to injuries And due to my problems last week with catch already in stone. I decided to move one of them. And i've made a trade for Connect me from Philly stone stone and i know that you were saying that i should keep stone right but there was a reason why i went with stone rather than pets. Ready is 'cause pacioretty. Typically season by season has a lot more shots than stone Which racks up. A lot of points pretty quickly. And they're about dead even with goals and assists and points throughout the seasons. So i felt like. I went with patrick eddie. Just for the simple fact that he shoots a little bit more. So maybe one or two of those Goals will come from him. But also i feel like getting rid of one of them. I'm still gonna some hopefully received some of the benefits of maybe like assists from the other guy too. So i was really kinda up in the air on who get who to get rid of but at the nfl Ready i was shocked. Really i mean. I feel like i don't know i don't know i feel like literally like looking at previous stats. And even so far. This season sure stone had a tiny bit of a hotter star. But what is it. Petty petty has six goals. One assist at thirty two shots on net and then stone he has. He has nine assists but he only has two goals in only fifteen shots. So patch ready. I'm going to get more shots from. I'm going to get more goals from probably and hopefully getting the same amount of assists obviously hasn't translated yet but they're on the same lines. Hopefully we get a little bit more. Roman but i don't know maybe it was a wrong choice but i get rid of one of them because i. I can't do that again where i'm getting disappointed. By that entire team you know yeah exactly having one team basically dominate your roster is never a good idea definitely especially on the wing you know like oh i i'm gonna keep alec martinez at least for now because he's playing well and i could deal with that at least especially on defense considering how many defenseman you have basically but I don't know i. I'm kind of happy with the trade. I think i really wanted to try and go after. Somebody actually Faulk hooted i make original trade for got shot down which i knew it was going to but i did it anyway. give me one second. I should've remembered. i'm sorry. How dare you. I know shit uh right wing for and for and the guy shut that down what did you do. I went for mika ranan. So who zhang stone stone. I i offered stone at first she has. I know but whatever i i would've taken Marnie from you but no kidding. Go to hell i know is what it is i. I felt like i had to make a move. Yeah i mean yeah. I don't really know where. I'm a where i'm at right now. I need to make a deal on camera right now. Oh man oh man. No i might pick somebody up but Looking to move. Think my coffin. Yeah i mean. I don't know what are you gonna move for them. Will i pick somebody up. And i'm a on pace. I drop laughter knee scored. A goal scored the winner last night. Fuck hold up yet. But i know we're kind of now just like looking at the players getting excited. No yeah exactly. i'm a. Oh god i might do this right now. Oh i'm going to do something right. Now i'm gonna do it What's the what's the play me hear inside information. I am picking up jordan cairo for reilly smith right now. The golden knights lou No actually Actually for my kaufman. Oh kaufman yup now Cairo mine roof ski ski. It was scary a man that was rough. Damn well. it's done done do. Yeah yes it is. I guess we'll update everybody. Come next friday. See what records are. Hopefully you dropped this so that way. We're tight no kidding. Yeah i i should win this one. I'm beating him now. I think i'm projected to win. So hopefully i can hold through all although the fucking vegas cancellations watch. They're gonna fuck me in the end again but hopefully this trait so we again. This is my first year playing so we made the trade. He approved it so then. The trade will reflect on the lineup for sunday. January thirty first. Yeah yeah so the next week. Yeah at knowing. Yeah i know but yeah dad so all right that makes sense though i guess right but Yeah so we'll update everybody next week. the results of this week. And see where we're at as far as you know the standings go yeah exactly we'll share thoughts. Yeah sounds government. Yeah all right Any any last notes. You wanna make or You think we're about done today. Nothing about done today You guys can follow us on instagram. At the clapper report t h ec c. l. a. p. p. e. r. e. p. r. t. for updates and all that good stuff right. Yeah definitely followed there. yeah you spelled everything right. You know we'll try to keep up with the posts and just start a conversation guys'll stewart sweet sketchy guys here again next week piece.

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E61 - SENS, HABS AND LEAFS NHL DRAFT REVIEW, PK SUBBAN DEAL, MAYOR SAYS DON'T BUG KAWHI

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E61 - SENS, HABS AND LEAFS NHL DRAFT REVIEW, PK SUBBAN DEAL, MAYOR SAYS DON'T BUG KAWHI

"Steve one project. Everybody. Welcome to the project, presented by faces magazine were episodes, sixty one this daily podcast where we're discussing sports and whatever very lenient on the whatever part of things, I'm Steve worn with Jim Jerome the two of us for TSN radio partners for decade and now keeping ourselves amused. In the podcast world, we're a national show by Moses because I live in Ottawa, Jim lives in Edmonton. And that's how it all plays out. Coming up today, we got talk with the NHL draft PK. Sue ban is a New Jersey devil needed about sixty seconds to turn the page on Nashville Patrick Marlowe traded by Toronto. The mayor of Toronto holding a news conference to tell all the raptor fans not to harass who I Leonard, and that's all straight ahead on the Steve horn project. Thanks to our partners faces magazine Jim K Ford, all insurance on -tario and Rb computing, how you doing Jimmy Stevie? Good. Excellent yacht. Good to be here again. Yeah. I'm feeling it'll. Off today, had some friends over big old campfire didn't burn myself, which is good. That was a solid thing and feeling a special kind of dehydrated I think that's is there's hangovers, and then there's hangovers after a night of drinking in front of the campfire. That's where I'm at. I was a hangover guy for sure. Yeah. I was a hangover guy. I know guys aren't I know get get hangovers but you talk about campfire. And I may have told this story before quickly me and my buddy Jake he's so he, he got his truck from his dad, who said, let's go ahead. You can you can you guys can use the truck and go where you're going fishing for a couple of nights, or one as it ended up, it's supposed to be to my dad gave us twenty bucks this long ago. It is my dad gave twenty bucks to buy food. And for everybody K for four guys. And we immediately bought a carton of smokes. A case of beer. As you do and anyway off. We went, and we're setting up tents, and we, we built, a campfire like the old fashioned way, all, like like we're in, like we're in a western steep put the boulders around their cut some wood and, and cracked a little kindling chopped up there. Cut the fire going. And so we sat around for three or four hours and got fractured. My buddy says when he gets hammered, and the and the rocks were were glowing Steve melding lava, and I suggested we make the fire bigger because it was too small. And we want to have the good fire on all night, Steve. You know, otherwise the Cowboys get Colt. Right. Of course. And I said, well, let's make let's make it bigger. Jake said, good idea and proceeded to grab one of the rock Steve with his bare hands. Why did he do that? I don't know. So help. And, and, and you sort of heard the snap. I don't know. It was one of the hands coming off their, you know, he started to make. This sounds like a dead moose. Boom. And the other hand, he lifted up, it actually sort of pulled the rock up like like suspended in air stuck to his hand. Oh, yeah. It was horrible was horrible. I must have missed it for like just a, you know, a cool piece of wood or something. I don't know. Let's would on the pile here. It's that was a that one the other story told about a guy who fell actually fell in the fire with it like a Neil premiums ski jacket on another trip. I went on and fell in there and set himself on fire with the show had tried to do. Why was he so close in what was just hammered? He was this guy was recommending, he stepped on all the rods, and it was just it was a pain in the ass this guy and drunk out of his mind. And we all went to bed and left them, there while he was singing, campfire songs, and blah. And then he he felt he collapsed. One of these aluminum frame launchers into the fire. Oh, so if he was so disliked. Maybe it wasn't an accident or Steve, we didn't quite rush to put them out. See now you. I don't believe that for too many anyway. I late never little campfire last night. I don't get an isolated anymore. I just, you know, had a few and it was a great night. I've had some friends over. And we what I what I lack, though is that ability that you guys had to do the fire the fire the old fashioned way. Try that is a little dry grass. Here's some kindling when over to the recycling bin put an old Eminem box underneath there that didn't work. So I want, you know what really old school Homer. Simpson's down is doused a bunch of gas on their danville away to do it. I think so. I think so that's the only way to. But you've got to be quick, Steve because I've done it the other way. So you want. Right. You're waiting for that. And but, but you can't do it. I did Steve with the spout. Okay. The Jerry can of gas. And then you unscrew the cap in the spout comes out and you flip it around. Screw it back in. So you got the big, you know, the foot and a half spout there and I leaned in and started started pouring it slowly onto the fire Steve. No, no. Not a good idea. No, not a good idea as the as the well, that's how they made the movie backdraft. Into the can up into the can and children screaming and yelling. I got the fire going, but, but it was any info any damaged Jimmy on that one. Jimmy was hammered enough didn't bother tough nails. No. I just blow it out. Blow my arm. All right. Let's jump in. We've got a special guest today. I guess we shouldn't can't Steve, no God. No, we're townies at heart and leave that to the the doors. Manella. Sure. All right. We had the NHL draft on the weekends. So we're gonna get to that in just a moment. But first, our sponsors, a tired of feeling like you and your insurance company or on different teams. 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Let's jump into some NHL draft discussion, and we're very pleased to be joined by grant McCague. He is the author of valley snapshots that really cool book about any gel players grew up in the Ottawa valley. He's a former scout with the Montreal Canadians, and he's the founder of what he's doing. These days, recruits dot CA covers NHL draft eligible prospects, cool website. And when it comes to the top twenty selections in this year's NHL draft. No one was more accurate than recruits in the preview grant decided on his top twenty the twenty guys he believed with the best players available in the draft. And you know what all twenty all they all fell inside the actual top. Twat. Thirty in the draft that is impressive and graduates right now. How you doing grad, hey, doing great? Yeah. I was pretty pretty happy about that. That is that a first for you covering the draft all these years. Oh, yeah. And I think as you may have mentioned on Twitter, that's you know, I don't think too many people have done that. So it's a. Considered it an achievement. No doubt. I mean, again, a hockey fan does when you want to put that out and then look back at at your draft preview what, what is this? You maybe wanna go get yourself a lottery ticket or something like that. Because there's a lot of skill that goes in there, but I mean any one of the top twenty teams could've gone volatile done something really, really crazy. But there's no question there's like this insatiable desire among hockey fans to know you know what's going on at the NHL draft because even hardcore hockey fans are looking at these kids and, and wondering what they are because few of us have time to watch all these players and so to go twenty for twenty like that, I mean, that's going to vote well for the website for sure. Moving forward. Do you get that accuracy based on all the contacts and the phone calls you make? Or do you get a chance to watch these players? Or is it a combination of the two? Yeah. It certainly a combination. I like to elect to say that I kind of. You know, across between what Bob MacKenzie does. And what the what it independence go does? I obviously, I get to see all of the, you know, the top probably sixty guys then you start to, you know, you know, you start to see some names, like Matthew Steinberg who cover out the sixties. I never even heard of that. You know, after about the second round then you start you start getting these guys get drafted that you say, oh, jeez. I guess the six hundred glares at I scouted or whatever wasn't enough. Yeah. I, I get to see most of them, but I have I have four or five NHL scouts high-ranking scouts that I that I consider friends, and we talked quite a bit, which Jj information. Certainly, I, I take what they say quite seriously, because they're getting out CDs guys the aims at all, especially when they go to UNT tournaments that, that, that I don't get to see your or what have you. Their input is valuable because her watch these guys live, you know, it's, it's sort of like having your own scouting staff in the students but, you know, I I just don't pay them. We're very pleased to be joined by grant McCague. He is the founder of the website recruits dot CA covering NHL draft eligible prospects. So let's jump in and talk a little bit about some specifics. And the sends would be where were first tackle and that be their number nineteen selection overall, Lassie Thomson, and I'm not I'm not suggesting that he is anything but an excellent hockey player, where the controversy lay was that a lot of people felt like the sense could have scooped him up, maybe later in the draft. But you think had him maybe ranked higher than anybody that I read, why did you have him ranked so high? I really believe that if cough Caufield and crabs fall. In the draft, the Montreal was likely to take Thompson, fifty I've, I'm pretty sure that was that was gonna happen. I know that they like Thompson allot finished second in the whol at Kohl's rookie defenseman. You know he had more goals than. Ty Ty Smith dead. And he wanted to see a gel defenseman of the year knots. Again as a kid coming from Finland the play. It's Thais messed third year. Nia whol, and it was his first in the polling that I did of NHL scouts. He was top foreign both skating manned in shot. So those are two things that you can't teach that are so invaluable to team if you can you can utilize them on the power play which I think he'll be a really good are play guy. But I also think there's the Knox about is defense were bit to, again you have to take into consideration that it was first year playing North America under some judgment to do. They're certainly last year. Econ my right off the bat as sixteen year old when I saw him playing in USA team events against older guys. He was he was excellent defensively playing in Finland. And I think that he'll be. Because of his skating, especially because he plays in aggressive gate. I think his defense will come and the offenses there. So as far as I'm concerned, got one of the, the real gems burst round, I was, I was quite impressed. When they took him ninety there's no question that granted addresses in need for them. Because at right shot d they're a little thin right now, obviously, and but I wanted to address their full need, and I guess I'm gonna get into your, your thoughts about pocket philosophy in twenty nineteen a bit here because. Yeah, they get another get another offense of defensemen to play the right side for them. They've got Jacob Bernard Docker coming on the right side as well. And on the left side, you've already got Shibat brannstrom and will Landon. It seems like a lot of one ingredient as they move forward that this seems to be their foundation for defense in twenty nineteen can you win with all ofensive style defensemen. Or they need to address at some point more of a shutdown guy back there. I don't consider Bernard Docker offense defense. Ohka what you're gonna get with him is the has. I as really reliable solid defensively. None of these guys are overly big. I mean, it's going to be a decent size. But I think the way that the game is trending is that you want off movers enrich retreat, FOX, get the money is all can skate first and foremost, and certainly all those guys can do that. I understand what you're saying. The philosophy for most NHL teases to drought who they think is the best player and that you draft assets in, you can always. Make moves later on maybe couple years down the road. One of these quote unquote offense to can be moved for shutdown guy. For instance, you look at, like, what national was doing for years there. They Ekka defensemen every year, it seemed like in the top programme you wonder, well, there's only so many top for spots for these guys. But what they did was like, even when they had Weber analysis neck home Josie, and even Ryan Suter in the system. They when it was there peck at oral were all picked set Jones because he was the best asset. And an what did they do a couple years down the road? They, they converted that asset into for their first line center by train Verein, you'll Hanson. So he can't have tunnel vision when it comes you have to sort of plight like a chess game where you say okay, this may give us too many right? Defenseman right now. But your job for three four years down the road in the roster's going to be so much different. It's funny. I look back at Montreal's roster for years ago. For instance, enders three players still on the team. So if you can imagine or drafts ago, if they dissent, while a right defensemen, instead of the left because we've got more left defenseman