2 Episode results for "Jacome Cazenove"
Chemists Investigate Casanova's Clap
"This is science Americans sixty seconds science. I'm Karen Hopkin all Cazenove the name is synonymous with a reputation for romantic. Let's say excess but a new study suggests that the real Jacome Cazenove may have exaggerated his sexual exploits none in terms of their sheer volume, but in their infectious aftermath because though Cazenove claim to have suffered several bouts of gonorrhea, researchers could find no traces of the responsible microbe on the pages of the womanisers handwritten memoir. The findings will appear in the journal electro freezes casanovas memoir completed in seventeen ninety eight fills twelve volumes and its English. Translation, runs to thirty five hundred pages in this tell-all casanovas tally some hundred twenty two lovers then confesses to recurring gonorrhea relapses to investigate these claims. Researchers turn to a technique they'd previously used to. Positively identified the bacterium that causes plague on the pages of death registries from seventeenth century Milan. Thus we thought we would be able to detect the gun Opoku on Kazan Avas pages. CC candidate meted in use memoirs have been been infected by gonorrhea in his first sex intercourse at the age of eighteen and having suffer from relapses of the sex Peja his lifetime as a gun lover. Giorgio Righetti, professor emeritus at Milan, polytechnic Righetti and his colleague glib Zuber Stein. Who has a company called spectra fon in Israel developed a hand held device that allows them to capture characterize protein, fragments and other macromolecules from the surface of historical documents such biological materials. Can get stuck to a manuscript when say someone licks his fingers to more easily turn the books pages leaving behind traces of potentially infected saliva, but in the case of Kesse. No. Ova that goes not racist caucus could be detected. They did however find traces of cinnabar a red pigment containing mercury sulfide at the time that chemical was used to treat these sexually transmitted diseases. Do your including syphilis gonorrhea quite likely that cousin Alvin been using macrey suit, find to cure relapse, his taraji. So it could be that as infection was in remission when Cazenove pen the three or four pages of chapters one and two that the researchers were able to examine and that in addition to his way with women Cazenove also had a deft hand with eighteenth century pharmaceuticals. Thanks for listening for scientific Americans, sixty seconds science. I'm Karen Hopkin.
Part One: The Man Who Invented Fascism
"Here's the thing saving money with. GEICO is almost better than playing pickup basketball. Because there's always that guy who joins your game. He never passes the rock. He constantly bricks threes. And who completely hack you. And then put his hands up and say no foul no foul with GEICO. It's easy to switch switch and save on car insurance no need to fake. An ankle sprain. Because you're absolutely exhausted. So switching save with GYCO. It's almost better than sports back to my old introduction style my podcast host. WHO's out of idea as Robert Evans hosts behind the bastards The podcast we talk about terrible people'd and more importantly I completely botched the introduction every time eh one hundred some odd podcast. I shouldn't be doing that anymore but I'm not a professional. I am a hack into fraud. But you know who isn't a hacking fraud. Cherie Lauda Airborne Air Horn air horned. I've never I've never felt more like a hack in a fraud. The NIAMH WHY is that. I hope they gifts for this. No I am well the point of this podcast. Nobody's very smart. Or none of these people would be getting away with all the shit they get away with true true true true no. I'm very happy to be here. Thanks for having me back. I'm excited to know what. Thank you fuckers out there fucking. Well Charene I'll tell you who we're talking about today day. Okay I want to ask a question of your first okay. What in your mind qualifies someone as a ladies man a ladies man well someone? That's like a charismatic smooth talker you know. Maybe he gets away with a lot of like The things that Ah less capable person would get away with Yeah that's it was he's popular but Like you know like someone's a creep and they're good looking you give them a pass ask 'cause they're good looking like not like you saying General Society. I kind of think of that as a ladies man but also it can be good kind of ladies man it'd be nice to ladies right. He's a double edged sword. Yeah I I've known some guys that I would. I would describe as ladies men who were very respectful. Some guys who are ladies men who were like absolute sociopaths. It's but it always is one of the two there either like the best person you know. And they're just incredibly charming because they're really really decent people. Were there utter like Solis. Monsters yeah definitely. There's definitely a dichotomy there where there's like one side where charismatic. The life of the party. Everyone is attracted to them like a magnet and the other side where it's like a dark brooding. They just got all the girls because they're just like yeah rude. Yeah Yeah Yeah well today Shereen we are talking about the quintessential ladies man one of the men in fact for whom that term was coined. Yeah well and the guy we're talking about today is also the inventor of the concept of fascism. That's a nice little attribute. Yeah Yeah Yeah this is this is a hell of a tale So I'm I'm I'm curious for a woman's perspective on this guys can fully understand this guy's appeal but it was undeniable like in his lifetime but I find him baffling. So maybe maybe you can help me make sense of this. I will try best. Have you ever heard of Gabrielle de Anzio Nope all right. Well neither had I really until I started the digging into him a little bit back so so he's not very well known today outside of Italy but he is an important figure so Gabrielle. Zero was born on March twelfth. Eighteen sixty three in the city of Pescara Italy Now the nation of Italy itself was only about two years old when he was born Because it had just like after the Roman Empire fell it had mostly been a collection of city states in big chunks of it have been ruled by other countries and Kingdoms and shit so like Italy had just. I started being a thing like in the modern sense. When this guy's born in Pescara his hometown was a small coastal city buttressed by mountains and pine trees? It was not I particularly like Hustle and Bustle Place and Gabrielle's father Francisco Palo was the mayor. Today we'd probably consider Gabriel's family to have been upper middle class His Dad was a small-time landowner a wine merchant with a terrible habit of spending much more money than he could actually afford so they made a good living but they were always kind of on the edge of their means. Now as the biggest man in town because Francisco Paulo was the mayor He needed to be seen displaying conspicuous wealth. So some of Gabriel's earliest memories during carnival. Wonderful were of his father standing on the balcony and tossing gold and silver coins down into a crowd of partying poor people which was like not just his dad did that in any town. The Guy who occupies says position. That's like a tradition. Okay you show off your largesse right. Okay so he he was pursuing. You know well I mean he was very popular head yes. He was perceived as a good guy. But this was also like what you do if you're if you're here okay you're the richest man in town. You throw money into crowds on carnival. It's just what happens. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah I prefer other forms of income. Redistribution ones that can take us. Yeah Yeah it's better than what we have now where they don't do that at all. Yeah just toward it all. Yeah so I can imagine like If that happened now it would be like very riotous like just clamoring for that one dollar whatever sent is on the ground if you really because times are rough times are rough. I I do think if like I wonder because like I think part of why so many rich people are are against both war and and and sanders who both have wealth redistribution platforms Is that they Like the while they're in favor of like charity and stuff is number one. They spend less money on charity but number two like then. It's them than everybody gets to see like. Oh this. This great rich person bought this hospital as opposed to like this guy paid us taxes right like one of those feed your ego more. Maybe for like you have to give up x amount of money but you can toss it into a crowd of partying. People like let's compromise. That's a good question there Yeah Francisco Paulo Like Gabrielle's Dad. He grows up like seeing him doing all this stuff. It's very ostentatious -tations displays of wealth third part of his childhood. His Dad also had a hobby of dying doves in a variety of colors. Using like new high-tech dies at the time and letting them fly around inside the house which is weird. That's an interesting hobby. They didn't have TV radio. So you know. Entertain themselves by torturing during animals is about all you got quite the que- activating I don't WanNa keep leading back to my pro dogfighting agenda but you know in time with less entertainment. You have a pro dogfighting agenda. I've been out of the loop. I'm sorry dog. Fights dog legal dog. No uh-huh so as a young boy. Gabriel was the beloved center of his family's world he had a brother and three sisters but Gabriel's family immediately immediately recognized that he was special treated him that way in generally. When we say someone was a child genius on this podcast? Repeating the lies of narcissist. This is not the case with Gabrielle. Gabriel basically everyone. WHO's ever covered this guy? Ever written about him agrees that he was like everyone kind of knew he was a genius from very early age His most prominent biographer Lucy hughes-hallett absolutely despises him and thinks he was a monster but repeatedly emphasizes that just everyone who knew him as a kid recognized that this this kid's it's brilliant right. So he's he's not exert lying about that Now Gabriel was a mama's boy later writing his mother that her glances made my heaven. He was surrounded surrounded by women from an early age maids sisters and aunts and his grandmother. He was the center of their world and he in turn learn how to manipulate and to please women during L.. Yeah exactly. That is something like all the guys. I know who who I would describe that way. Most of them Grew up with like either a single mom or like a but like usually they grew up raised primarily by women. I think they definitely have to have a female influence so they can understand how female L. Brain can work so different radically different. But it doesn't some certain circumstances with intimacy and bonding. Yeah I mean it's kind of like it's just like you grow up like wanting because they're like the center of your world really wanting to please the women around you and then you go out into the world that remains like one of the centers of your your being being. Yeah I'm sorry. No go ahead. Sorry I keep saying yeah on agreeing and then it sounds like I'm about to say something more but I've nothing profound to say but I will say that I think having being raised around women and understanding women in the real world that leaves you to almost like speak their language and you're able to like establish a bond with someone like immediately better than like someone else it's not like that doesn't have sisters wasn't raised by a single mom because there's already looking understanding standing there and I think that gets you in their bubble. You break that barrier so much easier because if you raise mostly around men like I was you you you you grow up starting every conversation with just a series of fistfights and that that only works in certain situations. Yeah it's very helpful at like the Taco Oh bell but outside of that the Taco Bell really get into I can navigate a Taco Bell. Like nobody else. Just a bunch of right crosses but Yeah good good so Pescara the city. He was born in Is located in a region of Italy called the Abruzzi And there was vanishing changing and it was kind of like a rural area so there is vanishingly little to do. They're outside of religion and basically any monuments around him where either churches or these perilously carved caves that had been occupied by monks and been turned into like sites of worship and faith. There was a mix of extremely strict Catholicism and ancient Italian Pagan traditions. It's like fortune telling palm reading and other manners of what we'd call witchcraft One of Gabrielle's earliest memories was being taken in by an aunt of his who was a not a monk. Okay Into a part of the convent where males were not allowed to go and then breathlessly watching her perform like a pagan fortune telling ritual So he grows Rosa both with this intense ritualistic pagan influence in his life and also with a lot of his earliest memories. Being because he's seen a special taken into places he's not allowed ought to be Those are both kind of like you can see like the kind of person that makes this idea that like the rules. Don't apply to me like bound by the same things as everyone. And then the World Royal Preussen right by letting him like. He's not allowed. So it's like a self world prophecy absolutely proves Gabriel was never religious and nursed all of his life a deep contempt for priests but he also grew up with an abiding love of ritual and the trappings of faith not any actual like belief in faith. He would later write of himself quote. I come from an ancient breed. My ancestors were Inca writes in the mayor They flagellated themselves till the blood came. They throttled wolves. They stripped eagles goals of their feathers and they scratch their seals on giant rocks with the nail. Helen took from the Cross. So Damn Lot of pagan influence. Yeah you could say now now. Gabriel Denuncia was an infamous liar but the books and stories he published later in his life. Give us deep insight into the sort of things he would have experienced as a boy in Pescara because writers write what they now some in a quote now from the biography of Gabriel denuncia titled Gabriel Zeo Poets Seducer and Preacher of war May Lucy hughes-hallett And this is a quote from that biography biography about one of his early books. Quote into nuncios first story set inner around pissed. Garhi conjures up a place where the bustle of port and Barrick's market are contrasted with the frustration of women. I'm in confined to small dark rooms. Who Watch the life of the street through Chink shutters or small high windows? The church bell clangs out the hours priests pass in the streets carrying extreme unction to the dying. When young people strictly segregated as rule furtively press up against each other in the merciful darkness when the Church Lamps are extinguished in Holy Week? To Mark Christ's passion funerals beer followed by a long lines of hooded. Mourners faces covered all by but a slip for the eyes or processions of girls in sacrificial white on the way to their first communion provide the town's main spectacles many many of the stories denuncia related about his childhood concern dying animals. There was the death of his little Sardinian horse a bay with a white muzzle named Aquilino whom he would feed with apples and sugar lumps in the piece of the nighttime stable there was the quail? The farm manager gave him in a cage of twigs half a century later denuncia could still recall the tiny creature had dashed itself against instance. Makeshift bars gashing. Its head until the bone showed on killing days the howling of stuck pigs in their blood. Spurting into basin so appalled him that he would hide in a corner face to the wall. His hand over contorted mouth life. Scared me as though it stopped me with a pig. Sticking knife in hand after the massacre he sobbed all night. So that's that's a little insight into his childhood fuck that he's not a bad writer. No that's we. That's he wrote the about himself. Yeah Yeah like that. Included a lot quotes from him. Yes yeah I mean yeah. That's I mean he's he's called a poet and a seducers. What I remember from your biography? Aggravate title Yeah. That's very poetic. That's very graphic way to describe everything the bone the fuck. Jesus Christ. What an intent? Yeah what an intense life one of the things. Lucy hughes-hallett has biographer emphasizes. That he was really his writing writing at a real visceral quality Just in the way like both in the way he described bodies and like his romance books and like in the way he wrote about like it was. There's a lot of blood a lot of A lot of like he was one of those. Like shove your hands into the Meat Kinda right which is part of why he he had such an impact on people? But I'm getting go ahead of myself Anyway back to Gabrielle He'd almost been choked by his call while he was being born In because people are dumb. This was the focus of much superstition. Babies born this way in Italy were believed to have the second sight and the call itself was supposed to protect the person from drowning Now the call. If you aren't aware is the amniotic membrane that surrounds surrounds the fetus. Gabriel's parents dried his. Put it in the little silk bag which they hung around his neck for his entire childhood. So that's cool. That's so fascinating. Because if he already borne with this idea that this child second site this child is special like how much of it as nature versus. Nurture like how much of it was like. I know I'm special because everyone's telling me especially on how much of it is like you have genius brain and it just so happens that everyone already knew that about you. Like like. That's so fascinating. How much was see him living to the standard that everyone had of him and how much of it was just like actual intelligence? I don't know he his his whole all story has convinced me that my idea towards how you should raise a child as correct which is when they're five you put them out in the woods with a knife and you you just you leave him and if they come back home if they find their way back home you know Then they get to continue to grow up and if not well you know. I don't mean this in a bad odd way but I don't want you to have kids anytime I'm just GonNa say if someone had done that to get real nothing to grow up thinking he special you know for sure you're out in the woods with all the other five year olds and you have to form your own society. If you're going to get back to tell your parents. And then yes. Yes and like they must have had an awful life awful but they must've had very much like a complex about themselves with this like Special Prophet child around them all the time right. I don't I don't know much about how his siblings thought of him. He was very charming. And you do get the impression that everybody was kind in love with him when he was he got away with whatever. Yeah Okay Yeah. Yeah now. His most significant childhood memory was of one of his sisters showing him a fake Pearl and he was so taken with the object that he immediately started climbing the nearest tree to steal an egg from a bird's nest because kids are fucking stupid His parents rescued him before he fell down and killed himself himself and they freaked out about the whole ordeal. And I'm going to quote from his biography again. His parents were there his mother trembling his father Palin threatening to beat him he was lifted back through the window and laid faint shaking shaking on a bed. In retrospect he saw them the mother father child as a secular trinity is aunt's hung over him weeping as the sorrowing. Mary's leapt over the dead Christ but the families comedian was interrupted. The crowd now gathered in the street believing the child to be dead began on the chilling utilizations customary at funerals. Gabriel's father picked him up and carried him limping. Whiteface back out onto the balcony. Skinny the caning turn to shouts of joys describing the incident and old age nuncio made of this his first balcony appearance a portent. He was marked out from childhood so he asserted for public life. If defining childhood memory is almost dying on a tree and like the whole town turning out because they hear his parents shouting and yeah and this is based this. He's recounting this from his memory. So yes there's an there's an element of like loftiness. That's memory that that is a child. There's no way there's every like every time you remember something it becomes distorted so yes by the time recounting this. I'm sure it's not one hundred percent factual but I will say that I went from like having this Christ image of everyone gathered around him and being sad to like the lion king of like being only like pride rock on this balcony lifting up. This child like this will save us. I think he sees himself a little bit. That way definitely sees himself as as a Christ like figure and he was like he was absolutely a narcissist link. There's not a doubt in my mind that this is the way he recounts. His memory is very telling now his school reports from the time describe him as very unbelieving in God As a boy his favorite books where paradise lost and Kane by Byron both of which were epochs about about heroes who rebel against God in school. He got in trouble for telling his teachers who were priests that if God existed he was a villain or an imbecile who created mankind to amuse muse himself by watching a suffer which is not an unreasonable theory. No I kind of feel the same way law. At the time I get on board with that I feel like if you're at all a thoughtful person you at least consider that possibility at some point in childhood it's like Oh what's going on in this world. I mean like when when I was twelve I told my mom I didn't believe in God because I just like thought he was so cruel and just yeah am amusing himself by making everyone suffer and then she started crying and I was like Oh. I'm too a young to be to speak by myself but I will say that's a very normal thing for a child to think especially if he's being raised by God loving God fearing people. Yeah Yeah I think even if you wind up being very religious at some point if you pay attention to the world you have to wonder is if there's like a space based guy in charge of all this. Is he a fucking lunatic. What the hell is happening up there? Yeah I yeah I think that's the he's he's on the money with ends will. Oh I agree this point so far you got there. Yeah okay. One Value Gabrielle grew up in an exciting time for Italy. Giuseppe Garibaldi had conquered Sicily in in eighteen sixty with just a thousand men defeating the vastly superior military of the Bourbon Monarchy King. Victor Emmanuel had united. Italy is a single policy for the first time since the fall of the Roman Empire Fire. Nationalism was sweeping all throughout Europe in this period of nowhere. Was it stronger than Italy. Nowhere in Italy was it stronger than in the heart of young Gabriel. The nunzio so the the idea of being Italian very new at this point for most of history you hadn't nobody would have cared leg not thought of themselves as Italian you thought of yourself as a Venetian you know. I'm a Roman. I'm a Whatever Florencia Florentine wherever the fuck they call people from Florence but there's this new found like nationalism that was very price in and from from an early age? He really identifies with this as an Italian and he's kind of one of the very first major Tau thinkers in the Italian peninsula to identify identify as an Italian. Okay now when he was eleven years. Old Gabriel's parents sent him off to a boarding school. The sewed Giannini autonomy. Jesus this is like supposed to be my ancestral tongue. And I don't know anything about it so really no I'm My my whole family's very Italian. We came in the eighteen nineties on on a boat To the to the US but yeah they come from like transalpine. Gaul like the the trump Alps. That's on the Italian side of the peninsula. That's fascinating getting well. Now look at me now at the time Sending your kid off to this boarding school was like the thing to do for wealthy parents But I think in a modern terms we would consider this schooling experience to be profoundly abusive. One of the schools rules was that new pupils could not return home not for holidays not for summer vacations creations not for any reason for their first four years from age. Eleven to Fifteen Gabrielle is just in this school totally isolated from this very loving family that he's grown up in because from this very safe nurturing place where he's like the center of the world to a cold boarding school run by priests who show no warmth or emotion or compassion to any of their charges. Yeah he describes. This is so goofy letters home as a prison His only escape was a daily walk. Around the grounds his letters home to his parents became almost fervently loving and cloying agonizing over bright memories of his childhood and obsessing over the pain of his absence. Lucy hughes-hallett Gabriel's biographer suspects that this environment caused him to grow a shell. There was at least partly responsible for the fact that he grew up into the sociopath sociopath to ever paths associates. That is yeah great the great line And I guess jarring to go to a place that you weren't like revered constantly. Yeah and I guess it. It destroys my thesis. That making children's survive alone in the woods for months would would stop them from becoming monsters. Well your theory is. Is You would do that a young age before they had a chance that they were messiahs. But you're right. Sharing my theory is bulletproof. Theory of channel bulletproof. I will say it's fascinating. I will say to use a condom but continue now at a certain point. Gabriel seems to have a replace the affection he wants expressed. I parents with a love of Italy at age thirteen after two years and this is augmenting. He wrote that he had to missions in life quote to teach the people to love their country and to hate the enemies of Italy to the the death now obviously not a child development expert but this does not seem like healthy behavior to me. is a general rule. I think children's shouldn't focus on hating the enemies of their country to the death. Lead people in bad directions that same army. That's that's how you make the Nazis Gabrielle's devotion to his nation was not however selfless. He seems to have been obsessed with Italy primarily as a vessel to express his own greatness one of his school reports from the time notes. He is entirely dedicated to making a great name for himself. He signed one of his earliest photographs. A picture that he sent home to his parents with to glory. So yeah all right you know now. Yeah any other child probably would have been ribbed mercilessly for this kind of arrogance but it must be said. Gabriel backed up his words with deeds he learned to play the violin and the flute into sing expertly on holidays he would translate ancient ancient Greek literature into Italian. He wrote ceaselessly and when study time ended every evening he would collect the excess lamp oil from the other boys so he could stay up all night writing. He was always at the very top of his class at one point. He wrote home to his mother that he was angry. He'd been allowed to skip a test because quote. I am certain I would have taken the first place at aged sixteen. He could speak and write fluently in Italian Greek Latin English French and Spanish okay. So he's not. He's so my theory about nature nurture. There's there's definitely an element of him being intelligent. I very smart. It's a smart kid but my but it is a very interesting idea to STU stew. I Dunno like you can be smart and not a fucking lunatic. Yes And he definitely. I know we'll we'll we'll tell you where this goes but before we talk more about Gabriel Nunzio. We're GONNA talk about some motherfucking products in a Goddamn service or three. It's going to be great now that you ready for this shit's rain. I'm so fucking ready. Robbery Ed's Italian Robert that I've just learned okay. I'm GonNa shut up pizza. That's it's Robert. It's okay it's okay to be racist towards Italians reverence. The people have been tight. Mario Mario so racist yes incredibly. So but it's fine. I'm shattered my little self uptake. Mario really sad listeners. Allience Jesus Christ. Let's go to adds I'm Robert Evans host of behind the bastards. And if you're a fan of my work you know. We live in uncertain times times and in two thousand twenty. They're just getting uncertain. That's why I'm here today to talk to you about simplisafe home. Security simplisafe can provide your home with commercial grade. Enterprise fries level security. Now we're talking about outdoor cameras doorbells to alert you to anyone approaching your home. Entry motion and glass break sensors to protect the inside of your home and of course they also warned against fires water damage and carbon monoxide poisoning and winning alarm is tripped. Simplisafe can ensure that police first responded dispatch gets to your home up up to three hundred and fifty percent faster than they do with a normal burglar alarm all this for fifty cents a day with no contracts so go to simplisafe dot com slash Katiba today to get free shipping on your order plus a sixty day money back guarantee. So there's no risk that simplisafe dot com slash bt be to save on home security today again simplisafe dot com slash bt. We're back all right. I will say that I would say time. And Mario Kart Mario Yoshi was my guy. So if you've got an all the anti-italian bigotry out of your system now serene and did it mean Robert Italian Roberto thank you I do like you. I should've known I was Italian by like the frequency with which I gesture with my hands You're allowed to say that but I'm not am I know. I think everyone is allowed to recognize that about Italian people Middle Eastern people to their. We're we're very we're expressive bunch in like. Yeah it does like Tau. It'll actually actually Italy's not super far from the Middle East like it's just literally across like a stream from for cousins worked as a world. Yes yeah yeah. There's a reason why we for every Arab related to my big Fat Greek wedding. We're all the same. We're all old region. The Mediterranean is all. Say We all show both our love and hatred with food. You'd very true very true. So the monthly turns sixteen Gabriel's very first poem was published. It was an ode to King Umberto Gabriel's father Francisco Palo headed printed in handed out to townsfolk. WHO showed up to take part in the king's birthday celebrations and normally when someone's Dad? Ed helps them publish their work. It's a sure sign. That work is no good but this was not the case with Gabrielle. Less than a year later his father helped him publish his first book of poetry called Primavera now the gate it was clear that Gabriella Nunzio was an incredible poet. He sent copies of his book out to several of the greatest Italian poets of the day and most of them wrote him back with like very positive things to say about his work. And he's getting he's getting he's seventeen at this point A number of them even invited him into their homes and gave him advice council critics raved about his work. The priests at his boarding school considered banning the book because it had powerfully erotic subject matter contained lines like with trembling bling agitation. I laid you on the water lease kissed you with Convulsed Lips crying you are mine like a viper. You writhed groaned So like the priest. They're like this is way. Okay to much fucking to allow in religious school his 'cause fuck yeah. This is what I wanted. They didn't ban the book. Doc They wanted to but they decided that his use of Italian was so perfect in his verse. Form was so exquisite that they couldn't ban the book it was just too well written so so like yeah they decide to allow like like fuck dude can write like. That's how good the the poem crazy that is. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean especially for the time it must have been very revolutionary thing to even write about. Well you know they are Italians so yeah like the this. This is like you're going like there's always been more of this kind of like acceptance of sort of like the satin. The Yeah Yeah. It is a very Italian alien thing. That's true and I can't. I'm not going to have a lot of quotes from his poems in here just because like a big part of them is that he was such a good writer in the Italian Leeann language translations. Yeah you'll lose a lot I think but it's universally recognized that this is one of the greatest poets in Italian history and and some people will say including he would say that he was the best Italian writer since Dante. I'd like you said including him. He was he was he was sure of that. Most modern modern like academics will say no he was one of a number of people. But he's at a very high level like he's had a big impact on the link. Hate the he's so I mean it's fine to be confident offense and no you're worth but to say that you're the best writer since Dante. That's such that's wild. But so he he never a victim or he. He never suffered from courtesy of nepotism like he even though he had such obvious nepotism in his life like like like advances and and privileges. No one ever no one ever saw any kind of issue. I think his work is just so good like people people like. Well fuck like I mean. Yeah he definitely comes from money. His Dad is able to help him but like his work does seem to stand on. Its own interesting like like most academics who right about now like agree that he was a monster and a piece of Shit but pretty much everyone agrees he was really good at writing poems. Imagine if Hitler was good at painting thing. Yeah it's weird you get this mix of dictators like Saddam and Hitler who were like WanNa be artist but suck at it and then you get guys like like Stalin. Like Stalin was a poet in his youth and was a a really well regarded Georgian poet like he gave it up after a while but he was like considered to be very good and still is Poetry poetry is so powerful and I write poetry. I think there's a there's such a power and using the written word and it can garner so much attention and respect especially back then because the Internet but But Yeah I I. It's it's it's a fascinating thing to in this case that you have to separate the art from the artist and we we we go through right now with filmmaking like someone may agree film when you find out there pedophile. So it's like it's this balance of like someone can make something so profound and so incredible but also be a complete clete waste of space or some shit so it's still going on now and I think is just fascinating to see it back then as well with poetry. I don't no no. Yeah and it's you. You have to understand what poetry was back then too because now there are people like people like poems most. Everybody has at least a couple of poems that they've enjoyed but it's not like it's not like a huge thing at the center of life for us back then like to be honest. At least the the feeling I get is that like poets. At this periods particularly early in Europe kind of occupy the space coach really like an instagram or a youtube star like occupies. Now they have these legions of utterly he devoted fans like a pop star like they are like like the closest you can like the the the best poets of the day as Byron like the closest modern Like like comparison somewhat beyond say like that's the level of devotion that their fans have to know the Middle East too. There's this poet kind of similar caller routes like he came from privileged. She was rich. His name is Newshour Kabbani. He's an amazing poet in the middle. East he Syrian from Damascus and he was regarded as it's like a celebrity. He was he. His book was banned from so many places because it was very erotic very sexual and it was like everyone would read it as like a like like a like a political pamphlet that came out every it was like this thing that everyone was looking forward to like. It was this it's poetry was like the mouthpiece of that generation gration for a long time and he would use it in a political way and talk about like I dunno I think poetry now is not what it was back then and because the time is so different different but no it's it's I believe they were still ever. Yeah Yeah Yeah and select when I talk about poets in this episode. Think about like a very high level. Pop upstart you're thinking about like the way people treat these guys so he's he starts reaching out to the most famous poets Italy with his work and they love it And one of them who is particularly taken as a fellow named Tony. WHO's one of the biggest poets in Italy at the time an NCO takes him under his wing and starts like tutoring him and he introduces him to a book by a guy named Thomas Carlyle? The book is on heroes. And it's basically the thesis statement of the Great Man Theory of history that like single exceptional individuals are the ones who move history not economic forces or like the actions of like mass groups of people like in exceptional individuals are what make history and Gabrielle is absolutely taken with this theory Of course convinced that he is supposed to be one of those great men and from a very early age he was not just it was not just enough. He's not just one of these people who wants to make a living with poetry or like just has to express something the thought of being anything but like the very best poet writing in Italy is like hateful to him so early in their relationship. He Sends Nonni Book of his poetry with a letter asking if his work is just charming or pleasing Because if that's the case he was going to give up writing immediately He said that little artists in little poets were abhorrent to him And asks can I cover myself and glory So again he can't stand the thought of just being a good poet like that's not enough for this guy he's got to be the best okay By Age Eighteen Gabrielle. BRIELLE had published. Three books of poetry was dedicated to his recently. Deceased Grandmother The other was the second edition of his first book Primavera with forty three new poems revisions to his old work. His father paid the publishing costs for all these books. But denuncia took responsibility for picking the fought the paper. The printer and setting up distribution deals with bookstores. Both Denuncia Manziel's had a hand in promoting the work in the different ways. They went about it. Say A lot about their personalities Francisco Paulo like a normal person through a big banquet party in the middle of town to drum up interest in the Book Gabrielle. Being narcissistic maniac sent an anonymous letter to the editor of a poetry magazine in Florence Lamenting that Gabrielle. Denuncia the young poet already. He noted in the Republic of letters in his words had died after falling off a horse so he sends a letter do like a big poet poetry critic and claims that like like. Hey this Guy Gabrielle. Who wrote this book? He's dead now Yeah it would. He does this because guys like shelley and Byron Poets who died very very young after publishing books. Were like the biggest poets in Europe at the time these huge coats of fans because they died young And so he he knows that like if the like if it's just the story of a young poet who's pretty good and publish new book of poetry like he'll he'll sell some copies people talk about it but it's not gonna be a huge deal but if he's a great poet who dies tragically young. That's a huge deal And it gets treated that way by the editor like a bunch of magazines. Start writing articles about this dead young poet. They like call him. Things like the last borne of the muses like he's suddenly like the fact that he's believed to have died young elevates his work instantly in in Italy and he developed this huge Colty fan base and eventually Gabriel corrects the error and basically plays it off as if. Oh this must have been someone must have just gotten their wires crossed like since you incorrect information and you know it's the eighteen eighties lawns leader. I respect this is genius level. Ah influencer like like. I don't know that that's one way to get a following back in the day. There was no instagram. You couldn't yeah like you can fake your death. Yeah yet. He fakes his death. He and then it turns what would have been kind of a modestly successful book of poems into a national news story so as he turns eighteen. Gabriel the Nunzio who is already famous already like very well regarded and of course he was already fucking as a young teen. His teachers had noticed that on walks through town. Gabriel Oh constantly stared at young women at age fourteen. He spent a few days in Florence with a family friend and wound up taking. That guy's seventeen year old daughter to the Museum of Archaeology and making out with her in public Shortly thereafter on a school trip to another town he pawned his grandfather's gold. Watch to pay for a hooker. So he could lose his virginity. Yeah he is he is just dives right into fucking. You cannot stop this guy from fucking which gets exactly as rapi as as that sentence should make it sing. Yeah The summer after he was finally allowed to go back to Pescara At Age eighteen he flew or at age. Sixteen sorry He flirted constantly with every woman in town. He found himself off particularly enamored with a young peasant girl. She unfortunately was not enamored with him so he hunted down chased her into vineyard shoved her to the ground and raped her. Gabriel was quite proud of this and wrote about it openly. He had a lifelong obsession with raping poor women. Particularly Servant Girls It's actually hard to tell how often he did it. Because the act was such a fetish for him that he also fantasized about it regularly. Okay he's inside the fuck open because when you when you read that poetry verse like the before the break with what. She was like riding in whatever I was like in my Bra. And my brain. That sounds rapi and it this makes so much sense in the worst way. I am disgusted that I agree with some of the points that you made earlier. That he's a very rapi guy. ooh That is part of his personality. Oh God I'm talking about the guy who invented fascism but that's the thing can be ladies man in Anti Rabi like that's absolutely Arabia. Ladies Man is the worst kind of ladysmith in the US. God there's a a Lotta class issues wrapped up in this. Because he doesn't at least I don't. I'm not aware of him. I don't think he raped upper-class woman wealthy women famous women and he had would have had hundreds of affairs with the most famous women of the era and was considered to be a very a very great like Rome answer His particular fetish was in raping poor. Women like like that is just appalling. Not really calling discussing Horrible Yeah it's horrible. 'cause he's regarded as this womanizer. assu Sir and also this rape fantasy of poor people is just regard as a fetish because he has all these other qualities I will in the well but the thing is though. It's a little more complicated than that. Not that it's morally complicated. It's horrible but at the time number one most men who who he would have talked about that he wouldn't have hide the fact that it's forcing himself on these poor women and they wouldn't have really thought it was bad like that's Kinda like it's a it's a rape time and place. Yeah Fair Enough Italy in this period and like not just Italy obviously like everywhere in the world you rape and pillage. That was like how you were taught ought to show yourself as a man. That's fine. We're not all the way past that now. Obviously home So it was worse back then and he would not have. This was not like a dark secret of his point like this is the thing that he was like. Yeah I'm a ladies man. I Romance these women. I forced myself on these women that what a ladies man do like that. Yeah that's the attitude with with all the classes even if they don't want yeah yeah kind of especially if they don't want me to yeah at age. Eighteen Gabriel CASILDA The daughter of a schoolmaster in Florence. When he first met her she was sobbing because she just seen the corpse of a little girl who had frozen to death? This really turned Gabriel on. They started dating thing and fucking in his early letters to her he would write about how much the sight of her tears turned him on. I want to make those tears fall again Lucy hughes-hallett writes quote. He luxuriate in the idea of her unhappiness even told her how much you would like to see her corpse. He loved it that she was deathly Pale. Like the blessed Damsel the dead girl of for cities famous poem woman painting but he would have preferred her even Paler. He told her that he would go around all the Florus in the city philly carriage with assorted flowers to come and bury her beneath them. Yes to bury you. I want to make you die. He wrote to Tito's coney not as one might expect promising to cherish protect Tito's daughter but announcing I n Elda cannot live long both he and Zelda worse so far as we know in perfectly good health yet denuncia wrote our code bodies will fall to the earth to feed the flowers and we'll be swept away unconscious atoms and the irresistible currents of the universal force even pillar. I what you did some red flags sir. Well unfortunately I dated someone that told me he thought it was attractive when I was when I cried and I think like it's such a weird thing to say to someone like to be like. I think girls are hot when they cry. Or like I'm turned on by girls crying There's an element of like. I mean I guess there is a beauty to tears. I'm fucked up. I don't know I think like it's complicated like you're not a bad person if like obviously you're not okay. I haven't seen my therapist. I don't want to use your the therapist but I he's also necrophiliac then he's also into like dead in this you know. I don't know I wouldn't say that because I don't think that's I think it's more that the art of he's very much into classical in medieval art and and that sort of art there's like this death obsession because death was such a part of the Middle Ages and there's a lot of paintings and poems and works of about like focused around dead women yeah Like Dante is is obsessed with his dead chick Then he only met twice like it's it's a thing like now if somebody's fantasy yeah I would say yeah that that's probably probably what that do tend to but at the time was this this I yeah of of of of I dunno losing your life romantic nick death. Yeah like there's just it's there's so much coach really wrapped up in it. That like you really honestly can't compare it to anything today because we don't have those same sort of they're not nearly as powerful powerful is they. Well now you know what won't fantasize about your dead body. That's a bad way to lead into adds adds an outbreak. You know what molest peasant girls in a field. Jesus Oh boy comes up. Like I don't know it's fucking. What do you get sponsored by like Don Add Gabrielle tonight? Okay let's go to products I'm Robert Evans hosted behind the bastards and my in mental health isn't always the greatest because I read about horrible people all the time. If you're like me maybe you should consider better help online counseling. They offer licensed counselors who specialize in a variety of issues like like depression and anxiety. You can connect privately and the rates are really affordable and right now behind the bastards. Listeners will get ten percent off their first month by using the Discount Code. Bt bt that's better help dot com slash bt be so get some help at better help dot com slash TB. We're back the mean. Orange break started with me being a bigoted racist against Mario or like realizing that Mario Oh is tainted forever and the next one lead up to me just time sad. Yeah that's that's the DENUNCIA effect. Okay could continue. I'm sorry this is over the two years that they were together. Gabriel wrote Giralda five hundred letters letters They actually spent very little time in each other's company. Shortly after hooking up he graduated and wound up traveling all around Italy launching his career as a writer. He continued to write her dizzying seeing leap passionate love letters but ignored all of pleading requests to visit her in Florence sometimes even pass by the city on journeys to other places without diverting himself to visit this woman. He claimed to love the fact that he wasn't all that into seeing her didn't stop him from giving her orders on what to wear only black But by eighteen eighty three he was tired of the relationship and gradually his letters nice to her dwindled. Off into nothing. Gabriel was never able to actually break off things with anyone he just sorta ghost them. After spending months and even years writing tens of thousands of passionate odes to their bodies this this would prove to be a lifelong habit for the poet and writer by his own count Gabriel bedded around one thousand women in his lifetime and this is probably not far from accurate. He developed a reputation for being not just a great seducer of women but for abandoning them and breaking their heart. His lovers would repeatedly attempt suicide in a number of them probably succeeded. One of the reasons I really love. Lucy Hughes Hallett's let's biography if Gabrielle Is that she's She's a woman and she brings a woman's perspective too the way this this guy dealt with his relationships and I. I'm very interested in the way she writes. It's about him because she's very detailed and thorough In clearly as an appreciator of his work but is also utterly unsparing and sort of analyzing this him as a human and being she writes at one point quote the more unhappy. A woman was the more interesting to him. She became the more he tantalized Elda with promised visits which were repeatedly deferred. The the more adorable. Her image seemed to him. You must be sad immensely sad my poor angel he wrote. You will be thinking of me with desperate desire. The idea of her disappointment denied his savage savage kisses was one he liked to dwell on seeing her so seldom she was really in no position to report on. How Pale in one elder really was pretty addressed her in a rapture of sadistic pity as my appellate affiliate? My poor betrayed virgin. So he's like into ignoring and emotional manipulator like and he's a fundamentally abusive abusive person like emotionally abusive person And ghosting someone in like there's a there's a term called love bombing coming where you're like showering someone with affection everything then you're gone and it's a huge form of emotional manipulation because you make them addicted to you because every time it's like scientifically proven that whenever this person reaches out again your cortisol goes up and your cortisol is like your stress hormone and it's like literally the same way and Attic reacts to who an addiction. So he's literally making all these women addicted to him and it's conniving and disgustingly brilliant because that's a really really good emotional abuser does But he's one of the things that's really hard about thinking like I most of at this point in my life just because of the way my career and mytravel is gone like most of my relationships have wound up being long distance for some particular point And that's like a really that's one of the things that's like really tough about them is is there. Is this like addictive. Sort of like nature to the relationship where you're a part and then like your together and you get this massive oxy release and then like like it's hard not to. I don't know like it's one of those things that I always wonder about like. Because it's it's it's just it's difficult to do do that and not like fuck it up and not hurt the other per- or get hurt yourself like both of those things happen. I guess they're hard Relief because because when when the relationship is established as this like I don't know it's it's hard to describe it as anything but addiction. There's like this huge overwhelming release piece of happiness and everything when you're together you're not and then especially if there's someone that's constantly pulling the rug from under you're pulling away constantly that only feeds the addiction for the other person person so in this case in particular I think I mean like the the right. The relationship that I've kind of the closest thing I've had a real relationship was long distance. And so I can kind of relate to what you're experiencing as far as like on your part. It's like you're waiting to be with them again. And you're waiting for that like basically hit and then as soon as you get your good good even if they're just like replying to a message or whatever it's like you're constantly needing that Like streamline of like like I don't know But in his case he's one side addiction. He's completely fine. I don't think remains anything. He writes no yeah he is not at all emotionally engaged which is part of what what makes abusive right. If you've got two people and you're both dealing with that thing emotionally into each other. That's not abusive. But if you never want he also doesn't in no way. Does this need to be a long distance relationship. He is very well off And successful from an early age and absolutely could at least visit her regularly like there's times where he's like an hour away and he just doesn't like he's it probably gets turned on with having this kind of powder this knows. He has power over these women and he knows that he has emotional. Abuse has made them addicted to him and his presence even not there and that turned him on more than any type of sex drive like. He's absolutely sitting there jacking off as he writes about how sad he thinks like. That's that's what he's into here and that's the sociopath you're just yeah wow in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. When Gabrielle was very famous and renowned not just in Italy but all across Europe Gisela wrote him and asked for permission to sell the letters that he'd sent her? She needed the money to gift her son so he could get married. Gabrielle refused her this and instead asked her to hand over the letters others to his lawyer so like he just doesn't doesn't give a shit like he just stops writing this woman like in a completely cuts her off without even like talking there about just one day he was done and he doesn't even tell her we're done. She just stops getting letters and never hears from him again. So like most great men in History Gabriel Gabrielle. Treated the women and indeed the men in his life like trash but this did nothing to halt the meteoric growth of his career. He went to Rome where he studied. Literature published more poems and started writing books in eighteen eighty two. He wrote the innocent. A book about a Dandy and fuck hungry man named Tulio Hill who cheats constantly his saintly wife until she cheats on him and finally gets pregnant. In eighteen eighty nine he published ill considered the manifesto of Italian decadent his mo which is more or less what it sounds like And I'm going to read. Did you two paragraphs from wikipedia summary of this book okay. Gerard Aristocrat is in mourning over the death of his mistress Leonora. He listens to tape recordings things of them. Having sex and records his recollections of the day he met Leonora for the first time at the Carnival of Venice many years ago on a day he felt sexually adventurous in a flashback. We see him meet her on the St Introducing himself as Jacome cazenove after chasing her through the city. He finds her waiting for him behind the column and a passageway where he lifts her dress and has sex with her later that day in an opium am dim. After having a smoke they're initiated by Johnny in the cosmic secrets of pleasure and joining the threesome with her back. In the present Gerard Fiorella Dress Leonora as naked body for her funeral. When Ursula and Edmund Leonor is from another man arrived for the funeral Gerard who has not seen either of them for ten years at First Mistakes Ursula for Leonora Georgia's now legal guardian to both until they come of age in a sudden fit? Edmund cries out that his mother was only a horror in suffers an epileptic attack. He has calmed down by his sister. Breastfeeding him like their Mother did later. It is fear. Ella who repeatedly repeatedly breastfeeds him in with whom he has his first sex. That's just two paragraphs it goes on like that. That's the kind of books this guy writes like they're the smutty smut to ever green. Fuck hungry that you use. Maybe five minutes ago he is very fuck hungry. Writing Fundamentally Fuck Hungry is Gabriel DENUNCIA that is that is twisted yet. But they're wildly successful liming because because it's it's what's the word it's the cornyist books ever. Everyone's Horny everyone's hungry when you want it. When you were honest everybody's Fuck Hungry and Gabrielle is just leaning into it like you guys? Want horny books all right. The Hornets fucking books anyone's ever written. Yeah each other's buckets. They just like the most depraved decadent shit he can think of For for his for his Legion of followers. They're probably we like this is for like from his real experience. He'd probably did all this stuff because he's like this amazing womanizer I mean he. He probably did a lot of this stuff to yes like. Yeah he was Boundary a group. Show you. I'm going to show you his picture at the end of this episode. We'll talk about that. He was not considered. Good looking though. Most of Gabrielle's protagonists were aristocrats. Though he himself was not It's notable that his only marriage was to Maria de Lisi Ah Duchess touches and probably because marrying her technically made him an Aristocrat to he had three children with her in Christ knows how many with other random lovers he never took care of any of these kids and I'm gonNA quote from from the New York Times wildly generous he bestowed upon them. custom-made gifts by BOO Colletti and famous guys with flamboyant nicknames that bring him bring the mind Pantheon of Olympic goddesses. Besse Lisa Nike Barbarella. And of course Cora the outrageous Marchesi Kazadi Yeah I don't know who any of these people are. But he's like he's always got these loving nicknames that are like really like like like out of this world flamboyant and he gives spends thousands of dollars dollars essentially on fancy gifts for whoever is fucking before he abandons them Love Yeah Denuncia was wildly successful and made fortunes fortune from his writing but he spent those fortunes even faster than he could accumulate them. I found a write up on his life on the rake a fashion and style focus magazine That makes it clear. Just how he managed manage this quote he could shop until he didn't drop endless trips to the Taylor thousands of books and he wants even acquired twenty two dogs eight horses all in one purchase when he stayed in hotels else. He always traveled with his own sheets. I am as he once. Explained with. Characteristic self assuredness a better decorator and upholsterer than I am poet or novelist indeed that the turn of the century man is marriage into aristocracy along with his journalism and plays afforded him considerable wealth he habitually lived in rented furnished houses that at great expense. He immediately refurbished in extravagant fashion Russian. Or is he put it in a style gorgeous enough to be worthy of a renaissance Lord which involved filling his properties with mock sixteenth century furniture of his own design. These he's that guy I mean. I think that's really funny that he's like I'm an even better upholster and decorator Paul. You think I'm GonNa this well. Yeah not bad at anything. Basically yes the other people. In Gabriel's life were more distractions to him than real human beings at one point when he already had the eight horses he spent the money given to him specifically to feed his kids on buying a new horse by eighteen. Ninety three he was thirty years old and living in Naples to avoid his creditors because he was just in huge debt all the time he long since abandoned his wife and all three children as well as Vira fraternally A woman live with and love for eight years. He broke up with her to move. Even with the Sicilian princess he was actually charged with adultery for this and almost went to jail for fucking this princess fucking if anyone should go to jail for fucking. It's yes yes if anyone I not normally as long as there's consent well actually there. I mean he should have gone to jail for any kind of fucking. It's him. Yeah it's him. When writing novels and poetry wasn't enough to cover his debts denuncia wrote for tabloids and gossip rags? He used his media connections to do things like tip off gossip journalists about out win and where he would be breaking up with one of his lovers he started telling fanciful lies that he'd been born aboard a boat that he had a glass eye that he had to bottom ribs removed so he could suck his own. Dick yes Gabriel. Di Nunzio is the origin of that. is He really that is. That's where that's the first time. I think we come across it. Yeah he is a shed but he did start so many things. Maybe the first toaster started. Oh my God he's a it. I mean yeah I mean all. He's definitely of the belief of like any press is good press so yes damn. That's just and his life Kinda proves that that's true. There's actually found a couple of articles comparing him to Donald Trump and while he's a much more talented person than trump And did did succeed on his own. Merits there. That's not completely ludicrous. We'll get to like there's some there's actually some comparisons between the two men now Gabriel's maxim some was one must make one's life as one makes a work of art As the rake notes he was quote a diehard disciple of Sorry Castiglioni the author of a Sixteenth Century Book the book of the courier in which the writer posited he referred to as the universal rule in all human affairs spread a facade of nonchalance that conceal the artistry required had to pull off challenges with aplomb regarded even at the time as both romantic and deceptive in almost equal measure the nuncio clearly lived out Catholic Leonis doctrine which was described disparagingly by Henry James as beauty at any price beauty appealing to the sense in the mind so you would not however mistake. Gabriel DENUNCIA FOR BEAUTIFUL AGE age thirty. He was completely bald. He he was. He was to his credit very physically fit and muscular but his teeth were disgusting. His breath was horrible in his voice was high pitched considered weird by all. who heard it? Leeann depuy a famous Parisian quotas on Met Him once on a visit to Florence. Here's how she described him there. Before me was was a frightful gnome with red rimmed eyes no eyelashes no hair. Greenish teeth bad breath the manners of amount of bank reputation nevertheless for being a ladies man. Can you describe the Goblet Looking Greg. This is a foot though this. This is the guy that no one can't bone except for the women eat sexual I don't know I got. I am livid there's an. I'm so much more angrier than I would be if he was good looking but I am. I'm I'm so angry. Yeah well it's it's it's because in my brain I rationalized like if you're ladies man and you're good looking you can get away with it like you can get away with so much shit behavior if you're a good looking person man or woman or anything if you're a good looking get away. Wait which scientifically proven. You have an easier life. Whatever if he like after your your piece of Shit and you like are repulsive by this description description like Jesus is? It's remarkable and I don't really understand. Breath smelled why would you ever be like due to be honest. Sharon a big part of it just you have to like. He's he's a great poet like that's probably a lot of why is he's like he's I almost can't like maybe in this context. It's like you can be like a really talented musician right. But yeah it'd be like you know rose it's slight you hear stories about some famous rockstars. who like just didn't shower and we're like these nasty like drug addicts but like everybody 'cause like their music was really good and there's just like like something about that that can overcome an odious other aspects of your personality? You know we'll stay away. Talent and ambition are maybe condition in my opinion is probably the most attractive quality. But I just can't get over all other thea that description and the repulsive description description of a human being like I would say sorry. I know I'm just mad. Go ahead I mean I I would say you have to remember one. Wouldn't that kind of helps me. Is like look at pictures of like John Lennon with his shirt off and remember that there was a time when everyone everyone on the world basically wanted to fuck John. Lennon And like just take a look at that guy shirtless like hard to get your head around it but like it's because of the the the the artistic not that's just how his music on its own but also the cultural like like platform. He stood up so we revere these artists their yard as these some really artistic beautiful souls not maybe not beautiful in Gabrielle's take case. He's revered abusive. Yeah Yeah are you gonNA photo. Oh yeah a little fine. So I'm so excited. Despite his looks Gabrielle managed just to sleep with many of the most beautiful women in Europe and the vast majority of the sex was consensual. His habitual rape seemed to be mostly of poor women. His housekeeper was required to have sex with him. Three times comes a day whether she wanted to or not. Gabriel kept his homes bizarrely warm at tropical temperatures so he could wear only a light thin Kimono style. Robe with the special hole in the fabric for his Dick Customer. Shoes shaped like penises. You almost missed the peanut shoes. This gets a war more. Absurd fucking second. Are you shitting me. You know what. Maybe I haven't emphasized enough. He's Talion does that. Explain the pianist shoes. I'm sorry do you have shoes. Of course we'll talian eighteen. You get your penis shoes. That's just a part of being Italian. I the Komo. He needs an ancient issues. Well yeah he he does a little little bit. Now Gabriel was above all else a genius at brand management he knew how to make Gabriel Denuncia into a star and to keep himself in the headlines. It was crucial to him. I'm that people. Believe him capable of literally anything and so in pursuit of that end he ran for the Italian parliament in eighteen. Ninety seven independent. He called himself the candidate for beauty beauty and ran on a platform of pushing the politics of poetry. A big fan of Nietzsche. He declared that he was beyond right and left as I am beyond good and evil in a way Gabrielle unreal was kind of a prototype for Donald Trump as well as Adolf Hitler the first man to take his literary fame and Pop Culture Cachet and turn it into political power but when it came to actually staying in power denuncia decided he really hated politics. He served one term and never held any kind of legitimate public office again so he is like the first guy to take like. He's just a famous guy for being famous mostly like his. I mean he's great poet Bill. He's he's also really just famous for being a celebrity and he turns that into political power. And that's really hasn't been done in the way that he did it Fascinating also side. Now that I still thinking about the Komo and I'm sorry The Dick the temperatures are so high and that keeps them this tropical level. I watched Kirby and theories curb curb ear enthusiasm. I want to first time recently all caught up. But there's just one episode with Leon his roommate fucking Yoga teacher a high yoga teacher apparently warmer temperatures according to episode good for Orgasm. So maybe he was onto something. Maybe yeah then again. I'm sorry member able and I will say like it. This was not like he was not like a one sided. SORTA lover Like he was he was breathe and wrote about it. I mean pages. Sometimes he says contractual. It's most of the people want to have sex with him so Yeah but yeah I mean what do you say that his use of like his brand of narcissistic politics like using his platform to become a politician Chin. Like was that Regan did or like or How you mean Reagan? o'regan sorry I'll say how I think it's it's pronounced enjoy second second language. Leave me alone like Reagan synced in unseal. A lot of people have done that But he's kind of the first things first. Yeah he's just just really mostly famous for his fame and then takes turns that into a political career and this is not the end of his political career just end is an elected political leader. We'll keep that in mind. Yeah Yeah even stepped foot into the fascist of them yet fascism. She's as we. There's so much about this guy His debts were so outraged. Just by nineteen ten that DENUNCIA was forced to flee Italy for Paris where he made a film collaborated with some of the greatest artists of the day and became friends with proosed American whiskey heiress rest Natalie. Barney wrote about this time quote. He was the rage a woman who had not slept with him made herself ridiculed he even managed to bed Romaine Brooks a famous lesbian artists. Who bounded painting his portrait? So like again you really can't. It's hard to understand like the level of fame where like an a famous lesbian would be like fucking like. He's got to see what's going on. They're crazy it's wild as what I yes. Actually you'll see it it not for the size. Yeah it it's in like a banana hammock and the picture I'm GonNa show you and it's not I I'll say that tale as the years in Paris ticked along. Gabriel found himself less and less enthralled with high society and more obsessed with the war clouds on the horizon the actual start of World War One came as a surprise to most but for years prior to the war. Every observant person in Europe had been aware that some sort of violent conflict was very nearly like coming artists who recognize this wound up in one of two camps many dreaded it and work to do all they could to pull Europe back from the precipice Gabrielle. However wound up in another camp? He saw it as his duty as a lover of beauty to push. Yes Europe into calamity. This seems insane to us now in it is fucking crazy but the nuncio was not alone in this. I'm GonNa read again from Lucy. Hughes Hallett's biography quote and the political rhetoric and poetry of the period civilian existence is great dim morally compromised in physically grubby. The battlefield by contrast is bright a glitter with weapons ends and flashing with joy. Above all it's clean. When Britain declared war? Rupert Brooke proclaimed his gladness to leave the sick hearts that honor could not move and a half men and their dirty songs. Things in dreary like the Nunzio Brooke saw the war as a saving freshness into which he could plunge as swimmers into cleanness sleeping in Germany Thomas Mon- welcomed the conflict as a a purging and a liberation let. The storm come cried. The Hungarian dozo naming a trend pronounce. This guy's last name and sweep out our salons. So like there's this idea that like like society is decadent there's all these like young like lazy like like children privileged sitting around drinking coffee and talking about politics. We need a war to kill Hill. A bunch of them and make the the others into better people clean out these crowded cities. That's like a a sizeable chunk of particularly like the Intelligencia in this period read. Is this idea for. Yeah Yeah they kind of are Gabriel. Di Nunzio had become a fervent nationalist. By this is point. And adherent of a school of Italian thought that believed the new nation new to reabsorb or conquer a number of states that were currently. It's neighbors but historically they believed Italian this included much of what became Yugoslavia but Gabrielle. Didn't just see the coming war as a chance for Italy to regain lost territory. He saw it as a beautiful aesthetic endeavour in its own right He. He believed that quote. A great conflict of the races would purge society of its week elements as soon as the gun started pounding in nineteen fourteen. While Gabrielle was still living in France France he had a friend drive him as close to the frontlines as he could possibly get. They wound up in a place called. Rims were German artillery had just destroyed an ancient and famous cathedral taking a valet. Okay and several suitcases full of clothing with him. Of course. Gabriel wound up in the middle of the front line watching artillery land. Just a few hundred meters ahead of him and seeing the corpses of men and animals rotting in the mud. He immediately grabbed souvenirs. Started taking videos notes. He used these notes to write an article about the German vandalism of the rheims Cathedral. He hadn't actually watched the cathedrals destruction but he had no problem lying describing. How with his own eyes? He'd watched them burn it Gabrielle. DENUNCIA despised Germans considering them barbaric and disgusting race. The goal with his article was to try and push his nation to join with France and Great Britain in the war. Now Italy had entered world. War One is an ally of Germany but no one in the country was particularly interested interested in actually entering the war on Germany side. In fact most of the country wanted to stay out of the war entirely given how World War One went. This was not a bad call but Gabrielle wanted Italy Italy to go to war more than he'd ever wanted anything in his entire life and he set at once to the task of dragging his country with him as soon as he got back from Italy in mid Nineteen fifteen he began and giving speeches. And I'm going to quote from an article in the New Republic about this quote. Italy was no longer a pension familiar of museum. But a living nation he declared in one interventionalist demagogic speech to general acclaim. The prospect of mass deaths thrilled him. Benedito Cross was repelled by his seeming to enjoy war even to enjoy slaughter as he was how it puts it. The politics of beauty was revealing itself as a politics of blood among his ardent supporters. Were Marin Eddie's futurists had recognized early on that for all his fondness for classical Michael Art in Medieval knickknacks Denuncia was a fellow modern a poet who rhapsodised over warships and steelworks and who set a higher value on energy than he did on Virtue Jin Wa is where he first started haranguing amasses towards apocalypse. In his first four days there he spoke seven times. The Italian government itself was torn over the question of war. The Queen Mother decided dearly but most of the the elected leaders were firmly against the idea. They hated that Denuncia was ranting about the need to destroy Germany while they carried on secret negotiations to try to plot the national course standing on balconies shouting to increasingly large crowds. He urged his countrymen to pull out of the triple alliance and joined the entente. With France Britain and Russia he was not content just to attack Germany and make the case as for War Gabrielle. denuncia habit of viciously attacking any politician. Who spoke out against his whims? He called them. Cowards and appeasers the enemies within he said the old order reeks and must be utterly destroyed. Sweep away all the filth into the sewer. With all that is vile he called. The current political order infected diseased corrupted defiled and he said the only solution was cauterisation the corruption must be burned out. Gabrielle called repeatedly for a Holocaust to cleanse the body. Politic Holocaust was in fact one of his most frequently used words and in a positive sense foreign reporters who watched two more almost as enraptured as the crowds John Career a French reporter wrote never have have. I seen in order advanced before the public with such composure. Standing on his Improvised Tribune he was magnificently alone of a marble pillar with two is aflame and when Gabrielle spoke to crowds they didn't just listen. They acted in May nineteen fifteen. He made it to Rome in mid gave. What would become one of his most infamous rates? And I'm going to quote from Lucy hughes-hallett again. He attacked the advocates of peace in vitriolic terms. Very era of Rome stink with their treachery. Those who still hung back from war were traders assassins of the Patria Italy's executioners secretions geology. One of these politicians he hated was strangling the nation with Prussian rope. DENUNCIA was openly advocating violent attacks on the people's elected representatives. He called upon the Roman mob to take the law into their own hands. He urged his listeners. To attack the appeasers who lick the boots on Sweaty Prussian feet. He called for stonings and arson. His rhetoric was becoming evermore frenzied. I tell you there is treason here in Rome. We were being sold like a herd of diseased cattle. He urged the people to hunt down. anti-war deputies form. Squads Squadra was one of the many words the fascist pick up from him lie in wait sees them capture them an observer reports that the applause when he paused was like a storm when he resumed to denounce Geology Lydia Evermore vituperative terms that diabolical old blubber lipped hangman. The storm was transformed into a cyclone. DENUNCIA was high on his own eloquence on the frenzy of the crowds he flattered inflamed and on the prospect of blood fifty two years old. He extolled the ruthless purity of youth. A poet whose life's work had been the threat together of obscure and beautiful words. He inveighed against verbiage. Uncalled for action swift cruel. If need be unambiguous. It is not the time for speaking but for doing. He ended by leading the crowd in an anthem beating. Time with as little white hands. The people below bellowed out the reframe. Let's join the cohort. We are ready to die. Italy has called them. Yeah fame is terrifying. You're seeing some of the fascist creep in here. I mean fame it is terrifying. And he obviously used this visceral Quality of his writing into his speeches obviously like hey has he's a good wordsmith that's already proven but like affected it's so terrifying when someone is already so I don't know praise lauded for being this amazing thinker. He's obviously going to have a huge lesion of people people follow him one with a in anything he does even to tell people to pick up a weapon and and be violent and the fact that hall comedy worthy. He used so much I got so telling like kind of mentality. He had even if he did despise Germany like he definitely has similarities to Hitler in that regard of like Ramadan people altogether and being an amazing speech person a speech giver so disturbing. Because I think that's that's a huge reason why fame and influence really freaks me out is because you have all people follow you blindly just like with. Trump trump has the same thing the people I hate the people in the rallies that that I see I hate the people behind. Trump are clapping every dumb bullshit thing he says I hate them more than trump honestly because they're just sheep. I Dunno I actually not. Let's say sheep. Sorry I think people are intelligent. But they're also desperate to belong and if someone is just like around people together for a cause that he thinks says like will better humanity. I don't know I think what you're getting at and I think the reality both of why Denuncia was successful in white. Trump is is that that everyone has very deep understanding in our society as they did then that like something's wrong things shouldn't be as fucked up in hard as they are like like. This shouldn't be as messed up as it is. Someone is responsible and if you are able to tell people who is responsible and convince them of who it is And then invade upon that group or that person with the kind of rage that everyone has in their heart whether or not it's directed. Everyone has that anger in our society society. Because we all know shits fucked up you can convince people that you found the people who have fucked up shit and then express the hatred that is in their hearts. You can get them to do anything. And that's all that matters. Don't care about laws. They don't care about precedent they don't care about history they don't even care about their own health to a certain extent if you are you're able to convince them of the group that's responsible for their pain and express the hatred that's in their heart towards that group and that's what nuncios good at. That's what Hitler's good at what. Trump's good it at the you described what I was trying to articulate in a much better way Because that's what's terrifying. What you said you can get them to do anything because that's completely yeah? What's what happened and it works? It works on all of us. Yeah it works. I mean I mean to be honest like I. The the A lot of the success of this podcast which has been very successful. Asphalt and Has has done a lot for my career and has built up a fan base. That's very is is very loyal and active is because what we focus on is is talking about like these. Are The assholes responsible for why shit is so fucked up right Like the most powerful thing in the world is is harnessing the anger that exists in all of us because of the damage nature of our society and directing it it's not an inherently harmful Bernie Sanders is appeal is a lot in his ability to say this is. Why Shits fucked up? This is who you should be angry at. We need to fix now. He doesn't I would say non-toxic way in a productive way. It doesn't have to be a horrible thing. Because the anger for is real and the anger that trump's fans feel the rage they're not directing it in the right direction but that rages utterly earned cases. No I completely agree I think. Yeah directing acting. The anger is such a powerful tool to and being able to harness that is a terrifying quality when you use in the wrong way. Which is what Hillary did which is what Did NGOs does do or did. And it's what and what I'm going to do in my new Colt so stay tuned Very excited we're GONNA buy compound. It's going to be like that. Machetes bow. Machetes as far as the I can see. It's GonNa be glorious now on multiple occasions. Crowds rioted quieted after the nunzio speeches. Several Times they attempted to break into the prime minister's home in order to murder him. The violence only encouraged nuncio further and he repeatedly urged good citizens citizens to take vengeance on lying politicians. If blood flows such blood will be as blessed as that in the trenches. He said drawing a direct line between political murder and the national war effort shortly after after that speech some of his supporters stole a firetruck and used its ladder to try to break into the home of one of his political opponents. Lucy Hughes Hallett writes he was fast-developing brilliantly manipulative oratorical rhetorical technique. He allowed his public no break in his contrivances of their hysteria he played on them with rhetorical tricks. Borrowed from religious ligier from classical drama. Hear me he cried. Listen to me understand me. The crowd was urged to join him howling out responses to incident assistant vivas. These were not speeches to be rationally appraised but acts of collective self hypnosis. The nuncios work dramatist had frequently been grandiose in conception spectacular in their staging and appalling for the violence of their sentiments but never before he produced anything anything the shows he put on that radiant may the sheer rage. He worked these crowds into eventually made any outcome but war basically impossible most of the nuncios enemies fled the city. The Prime Minister Step Down Historian. Mark Thompson calls. What Dylan's you achieved a coup d'etat? In all but name. The leader of the Socialist Party Filippo Terada ruefully inaccurately Lee exclaimed. Let the bourgeoisie have. It's war there will be no winners. Everyone will lose well On may twenty third eleven days after. Gabriel the nuncio Oh entered Rome. Italy declared war on Austria Hungary. There is of course significant debate over whether or not Italy would have entered the war on the side without Nunzio. Historians will note that the Pact of London cendant which set out Italy's new alliance had been under negotiation for a while by the time he arrived in Italy but most historians agree he had at least a very significant impact in pushing his country into world. War One by the end of that war more than four hundred and sixty thousand Italians would be dead more than nine hundred fifty. Five thousand would be wounded. The old order of Europe died and Gabriel. DONOSO helped to kill that to his career though was just getting started and now Cherie Sophie would you scroll to the bottom of the script art but you have to he. She has to see that. This is the best. I'm sorry I just can't believe I just. I don't know I look at Bandaids Roberta. Come on okay bro here here he is here you gosh. She's and she just grabbed the phone. Are you shitting okay. First of all hilarious He is packing heat but he is packing. Yeah but he's he's pretty stacked he's pretty ocht he just skinny. What do you mean? He's not your tiny. He's he's got. Well you gotTa admit you gotta you gotTa remember Knbr too. Like people didn't know to build muscle than the way they do now like he's pretty. I mean yeah. He doesn't have any modern on him. I'll give him that but also like if you're listening to this in the beginning was imagining this like attractive womanizing seducing whatever this is not the guy but he did he champion for short guys unfortunately for how but Yeah you're you have Napoleon. We'll warn you on. I don't know Jesus. He's hilarious photo by the way this photo. It's amazing. He's completely naked other than this banana. Thong and his arms are at his hips posed for this photo his most stashes curled up. Didn't know he had a mustache. Right away Yeah Bald with a curled up mustache. You gotta see the pick not just A. He'll look if Adam silver the NBA commissioner and colonel. Sanders had a baby and that baby was a creep. Yeah I would I would eat a creep. I if you look up creep. That's what I imagine if you watched the TV show community. He looks like Pierce's father her Like he's that exact build and size. He's just this like weird little bald. He's he's he's smuggled. Yeah his country Marie to humanize personified whenever Allah does look a lot like Scharnagl. Yeah Anyway Yeah how you feel enough. I learned a lot. I think we had a good bonding time. You and I. To be honest I feel. There is each other In parts of this episode which I feel kind of Nice about. I think we're good friends now. nunzio effect. Oh God don't give them credit. Give him more credit hours. Shereen our credit for the friendship. Thank you sofi credit. I mean this episode has convinced me among other things to buy a banana hammock. That seems like a good decision. This episode has convinced me among other things that you should not have children but Sorry I'm kidding kidding. You'd be a great series Just don't give your show. Yeah that seems like a long reach to make sure no. I can't wait to learn more and and really really. Yeah the turn of this guy's life. What an eventful awful way to leave the world? He's not lazy. You gotta say that for the the man. He accomplished a lot a very productive back in the day. We're not even I mean we have that saying no like you have as many hours in the day as beyonce does back in the day. Yeah was many hours in the day as as as you know what I mean. What have you what country have you demolished today Yeah what what world order have you destroyed exactly exactly generation. Have you sent into machine gun nests Robert. Do you can get a banana hammock sponsorship. That's just my only hopes. I WanNa Banana Hammock sponsorship and I would love it if we could get if we could get award a sponsor as to like that would be really good like I feel like there's a lot of really good wars going on right now and one of them should sponsor this podcast. Lord knows they have the money so exactly yeah great. Yeah well Sharon you WANNA plug your plug ables. Oh yeah and I am a co host of a podcast called ethically ambiguous. It's on radio network is look it up. It's everywhere you find your podcast. I am Shero. Hero S. H. E. R. O. H. E. R. O. ON INSTAGRAM and Chiro Hero. Six six on twitter and Yeah that's about. Ah Poetry Book if you guys want to like the poetry talk on Amazon. Oh Shit you there you go my next one poetry. Really you go into a monstrous sociopath who is the world into a tremendous calamity honestly. I'm just waiting to sell out so a plea. Let's make dating. I would love to sell out may make it happen. And I'm Robert Evans. You can find me on twitter at I right. Okay you I find this podcast on the Internet and find the best dot com where you can find sources in this picture of course Banana Hammock. You can find us on twitter and instagram and et pastors todd And you can find me fully embracing the lessons of Gabriel the Nunzio when I create my Colt and plunged the world dark age so like look forward to that. It's going to be good time three. Machetes for all Yeah that's the episode. Have a good one. y'All took the future is closer than you think. And it all starts in the palm of your hand and you may have heard the news. Five G. is coming in this new IHEART series. This time tomorrow presented by team about a business join me as well ocean ocean and my co host. Kara price as we will you through the true revolution immobility. That will change the way we interact with the world around us. Join US in here. Just how close we are getting to a more connected future. This time tomorrow is now available on the iheartradio APP. Or wherever you listen to podcasts.