18 Burst results for "Jacoby Myers"
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Tell me the three guys that you think are going to pop. And the reason I mentioned Doug kite is he has something on Trey Nixon who I know is kind of a dark horse candidate and people have their eye on. But first I want to focus on the three receivers here and who we think they would go there. And you have the incumbents and Aguilar and Jacoby Myers and of course Kendrick Bourne, you're bringing in devonte, and then you have The Rookie in taekwon. And then who knows, Trey Nixon is kind of battling a whole group of people there to possibly make the roster. You were guessing Myers was safe, you know, and kind of if they were starting too wide three wide. You've kind of changed your thinking a little bit after three days. Yeah, I think that, you know, if there's a lot of time for things to change, but the early odd man out and that's a term we're going to use a lot over the next month, month and a half, we're talking about the receivers. The odd man out or at least Jacoby Myers, I mean, I don't know if him or Mac made the blunder today. Max first interception of camp 7 on 7s, it was a simple short concept in I think what Mac was expecting jakoby Meyers do. This was out of the slot. I think it was expected to run out, you know, diagonally, 5 yards and just sit down on that route, right? Turn around and get the ball. And it's an anticipation route Jacoby instead gets atop his route breaks toward the sideline. Matt hits Jalen mills right in the number. I mean, it was so right to him that even though he's wearing those boxing training pads, he still caught the ball and made the interception. You know, again, we don't know, we don't know what the call was. We don't know. But I was watching Mac and he threw his arms up like, what are we doing here?
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"You assume Parker's got a role. You assume if he's not traded, they're going to try to fit Aguilar in there. Opposite him. If they're going to receiver sets and three receiver sets, if you have to make your prediction right now, who is it? So okay, so what I think they should do. So my prediction is it's going to be Myers and born and then agloe and Parker are going to be 50 50 for that third spot. Really? I think, yeah, what I think it should be what I would do is I think Parker and Bourne should be on the field the most. I think those are your two best receivers. I love Aguilar and where's Evan for me to yell this at him. I love Nelson Aguilar in the slot. The speed slot, stretching the field like Mack had at Alabama with John matchy, I just think that there's so much potential for that role here. Jacoby Myers is a good slot receiver, but he doesn't give you that element. He's more of a route runner than a burner. He's catching fall. He's a catch and fall guy. There's no back there. And that's the thing is, I think there's so many people who are better suited for this offense. Playing that slot position than what Jacoby Myers is going to bring you. And so I think he should be the odd man out because I think between yes, I think he should be the odd man out because between born and, as you said, playing Aguilar inside and the two tight ends, some of which you want to kind of run almost as, you know, up the seam and that play the middle of the field there. I just don't know what Myers does for you anymore. I thought he was a great safety blanket when you had nobody capable of catching the ball. But now that you've brought Parker in here and you've got these other guys in year two, I hope I hope they don't keep using that crutch because they are used to there's still a role for him, right? I think in the red zone he can be effective. I think when you get in those third and intermediates, you don't necessarily need to stretch the field entirely in those situations. Sometimes you want a guy who's going to run 7 yards, find the hole in the zone, sit down and get the football. There's still a role for that in Jacobi Myers is very good at that.
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Whereas the pagers are going to say, well, let's just look at last year. You're not comparable. And that's going to be, that's going to be the sticking point. And generally, the players win those when those conversations. Because some team somewhere is going to buy into, would you call me Myers has been more consistent and maybe he still has on top potential and we like that. I don't think the Patriots would be that team because they're generally not that team. But that's where it gets interesting to me. I look at him 8 million per year, probably about right, because again, I think he still does have value. But his special if the patrons are going to do this whole Shanahan thing on offense, they need guys who can create after the catch, and that's just he's not that kind of receiver. He ceases to be a scheme fit. If they're going to go that way. And you're not going to pay somebody that kind of money who is potentially going to get schemed out of your system. So that's where Matt with Jacoby right now. I think this is a big year for him. You know, I say this all if you're taking notes on what I'm saying to try to cold take me, write it in pencil. I'm saying this all in pencil. This is all subject to change. But as we sit here today, that's how I feel about it. I have concerns about extending Jacoby Myers for too much money because you mentioned the yards after catch I have a stat right here from pro football focus. I looked up receivers that had over a hundred targets last year. So we're talking about high volume guys, right? A hundred plus targets. There was 37 of them. And yards after catch per reception on average. Jacoby Myers was 36th at a 37 receivers in yards after catch per reception. And yards per route run. So just taking the amount of routes that he ran divided by yards, he was 31st at a 37 in that high volume category. So.
Almost Shameless
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Almost Shameless
"So if we build an offense for Mac that wasn't built for Cam Newton, because this offense was built for Cam Newton. Two tight end sets, power run game. This offense was built for Cam Newton and they gave it to Mac and he did the best he could with it. But if, so if Bill Belichick bites the bullet, does some 2007 shit and brings in some real weapons can Mack thrive next year. We don't have the evidence to say he can't. All we saw this year was a steady decent performance from Mac. So we don't have the evidence to say he can't. It's just a matter of how big that leap is. You know, I joked on Twitter about what if they traded Mac Jones for Russell Wilson, you know, throwback Johnson picks at the Seattle Seahawks bringing Russell Wilson, Bill Belichick's not getting any younger, you know, screw it Colin kauer talked about it this week. He got roasted for it. But I thought it was kind of like a fun experiment to think about. The reality is I don't think that they need to do that. I think it would be crazy and fun and I think it would put them in a position to be successful immediately to be in playoff convention again immediately versus on developing Mac Jones obviously, but I'm not against, I'm not rooting for it, per se. I'm happy for them to continue to see what they have in Mac to build an offense catered to Mac and see what happens. The thing is, that's going to require Bill Belichick to go outside his comfort zone and start really investing in talent at the wide receiver position. I'm not worried about their ability to find running backs to work with Mac. I'm not worried about their ability to find tight ends. I like hunter Henry and Johnny Smith, and I think that they're actually a really good fit complimentary pieces to an offense that features some more speed at the wide receiver position. Mac has to get better, but it's pretty clear that Jacoby Myers and Nelson Aguilar aren't going to cut it. For someone like Mac, who just needs some more explosive talent to help him get to the promised land..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"We'll see in Monday night in Buffalo because the weather will surely be difficult there. We'll see how he does against a better defense. So look, I did not think Mac Jones was great in this game. That is not a take, this is a fact based analysis. I challenge anybody to come up with four plus plays for him outside of the ones that I have. I trust me, I strain to get the four, and I look for them. I do not like coming on after 23 point victory and criticizing the quarterback who completes about 80% of his passes. I understand where people coming from. I understand that they think I look like an idiot. I get it. If I was a fan, I probably would, too, but just trust me on this, I've been doing this for many years. I'm not saying I'm right, even though I checked with some people and let's just say my grading is not far off from actuality. And you know, it sort of is what it is, but I'm not overly concerned. There was nothing in this game where I was like, oh, well, max not doing this. He was a little bit high in some stuff and Nick probably the biggest. And I didn't realize this until I went back and watched the film. Probably the biggest issue that I had in this game with him was right before halftime. That final drive where they end up Nick folk misses the field goal, I didn't realize it in the moment until I washed it on film. He throws a high pass to Nelson Aguilar along the sidelines that he has to stop and jump for, which causes him to be a tackled inbound. Patriots have to use their final time out there where an accurate throw, Nelson just catches it and takes two steps out of bounds. They're fine. Then the ultimate the final play, sprint right, Jacoby Myers is wide open, like forever on the play, and Mac Jones throws it entirely too late. Jacoby Myers goes out of bounds, and it causes them basically Mac Jones himself cost them three points on that drive. So, look, he wasn't great in this game..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"You know, they'll get those cleaned up. I think this is, you know, this long weekend is a perfect time for that. The biweek coming up is a perfect time for them to sort of reset for some of these things. I thought the running backs were great, the offensive line was good. Receivers were solid, some mistakes here and there like Jacoby Myers coming out of his break on third down. I didn't think it was great. Hunter Henry was wrong on the end zone in completion where Mac shot it to the back flag, even though, I don't know if it would have been completed. I could Mac was right on film, in my opinion, Mac was right on that. So very minor stuff that they have to clean up. If they would have cut down the mistakes just a few, they'd probably score 40 in that game. So I'm not overly alarmed with the offense or the team at all. I do think there are some things that if I were playing the Patriots that I would try to do and we'll discuss that. But yeah, really, really good solid victory. Look at Thursday night. Yeah, 5 O on the road so far. And we know, you know, Belichick. And really every football coach takes pride in that. But you know how good of a football team you have or how much you can trust the team by what they do on the road. And they're 5 and O on the road, even against bad teams on the road. You have some funkiness. We saw that with the bills and Jacksonville a couple weeks ago, you know, you can slip up on the road. And of course, the Pats had the brutal first half against Houston. But all in all, 5 O on the road. I mean, that speaks volumes to how mentally tough this team is. I do believe. And you hit the nail on the head Greg. Look, Thursday night. And this is not an excuse. But for years now, Thursday night is funky, it's clunky. You don't really know what you're going to get. It's a short, quick, fast turnaround. And sometimes you just have to fight through and win a game. And I feel like that's what the Patriots did. They dominated this game. It was the mistakes. As you mentioned, it was the bad pick by Mac when he had Nikhil Harry wide open down the sideline he threw it into double coverage down the seam to John who that was a bad play, bad decision by Mac. But most of all you look at the flags, a couple of flags on the offense, a holding that got them. You also had a couple of sacks that just killed them in tough times, Jacoby Myers fell on one of his routes, that kind of stalled the drive. Kind of simple mistakes. And defensively,.
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Sign here, this isn't about the Patriots didn't want him. I don't want to see people in the chat on Thursday, bitching. Why didn't they sign hotel? They need Odell. They want him. They are trying to sign him. They can't force him to come here. He has to ultimately choose the Patriots. I'm not saying the Patriots are a bad option. This isn't me saying, you know, 'cause I know this was a narrative. Oh, Brady left and players don't want to play here. And players hate Bill. Like, that's not what this is. Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson are two top 5 quarterbacks. Yeah. Mac Jones has been great. He's not there yet. There's really attractive options on the table for Beckham. I don't think the pagers are out of it. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes here. But I just think at this point, the ball is in his court. I truly believe the offer has been extended. They think he would help the team. They want him. They are trying to get him. Now it's let's see if they do. I don't think this is a matter of them not wanting him. I don't think it's a matter of them thinking he's not good that they can get by without them. They want to add him. It really feels like that. So I don't want to see that. I don't want to see oh, they should have signed Odell. They know they should sign odes. It's pretty clear at this point. They know they should sign hotel. He just has to agree to come here. That to me is, you know, it's on him at this point. It's up to him. Yeah. So the last thing I had on my list of things actually relates to Odell. So we can go into it. At some point in time, and look, I love Jacoby Myers story, right? I love Jacoby Myers a story, but at some point in time we might have a tough need to have a tough conversation about Jacoby Myers because well, first of all, this was not a good game for him against Carolina. Right, I mean. He has the bobble play on third down where Mac throws him past the sticks and he bobbles it and gets tackled the yard short. I mentioned on the fumble, the strip sack by Brian burns that it was Myers that couldn't get open on the route that was taking too long. Forced Mack to hold the ball in the pocket. The problem that I see with him is not that he's not an NFL receiver..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Book for over 25 years. Greg, we got to talk about this, Houston, Texans game. It was awful in the first half. It was better in the second half. I want to start with three things that you feel better or at least good about. Yeah, so let's just start with the passing offense in general, Nick. I did I did feel well actually, let's make number one just the offense in general because I think that I think that they're performance has been sort of undersold. I think that I think that they were efficient. It wasn't perfect and we know this. And we know the deal with the offensive line going in and we'll get to those guys. But I mean, you're talking about an offense, and they are going against Texans, I understand. And I don't just look at, you know, who they're playing and in the bottom line production. I look at other things like, you know, basically, are they executing? Are they executing better? Because when things don't work in football, it's because the players are not executing. People love to talk about play calling in this and that. But they're just really, are they blocking the guy in front of them? Are they running the right route? Are they catching the ball? Is the quarterback making the right decision? So look, the Patriots, you know, get the ball after the defense can never get off the field and for first quarter. They go ten plays for touchdown. The next drive, they go 8 plays and Damian Harris fumbles on, look, I thought it was a crappy call. I mean, I don't know, even on the all 22, it's not clear where he fumbles. To me, he I don't know how you overrule the call in the field, but I'm not really, I'm not one to complain about officiating calls. Before halftime, they do go 9 plays 42 yards getting position for a field goal. Jacoby Myers drops that pass. Yeah. That there was one there was one defender there. I doubt that he scores, but I do think he gets inside, say the 15 yard line at least. And now you're talking about maybe they have a chance. There's plenty of time on. So I think there was like about 50 seconds left when that pass happened. So now you're talking about an opportunity.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jacoby myers" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Extra points a week and if they get your russia any better yeah i kinda murray last share and it was funny he would have a shit game but would still end up with like twenty plus points because he rushed for sixty eight yards or whatever so it was always like his game was in game whereas like my new lord and savior mack jones. Yeah he's he's not going to be getting those rushing yards but what he will get. You wins touchdowns super bowls but this is let's talk. Let's just get it over because he's going to say i just do it for me was with a friend and i sat there and i said i am doing simmons pod today and they're like how how soon before matt jones gets brought up and i said i'm putting the line five minutes. Oh i'm over six minutes. Forty seconds overhead Yeah let's talk about it. So here's i think it's the right to the patriot. Nfl wise. i think it's the right patriots. Yes i want. I really wanted you go looking at is set free draft. I wanted him to fall. Seventeen where washington was speaking prior to them grabbing fitz. Patrick i really liked him. a lot. So i think there's a really good move for the patriots. Nfl wise. I think it makes a lotta sense. It helps his dynasty value. Because he's gonna start from week one. Yes bowel check. And i coaching staff. Because an office of cam new is just a very different looking offense than match ups like the. They're completely two different kind style players. And so the packages you're inserting in for cam or different than what we do with math. And so you can just sorta go i. You know we're we're gonna run the brady off. It's basically right there there. There are somewhat similar players. At least you know. No one's brady but you know what i mean In terms of style of play is more pure dropback passer In terms of his fantasy value this year redraft though to your point. It doesn't run and some important to get a quarterback that does ron. So i think he's a low end to be to like he's in that you know twenty to twenty five range among quarterbacks for me ask can i throw this at you playoffs. Yeah somehow they they have a bye week fourteen. But now the the the playoff situation we seventeen is now the the finals at colts. We fifteen jim for the bills week. Sixteen little shootout. He maybe little by thirty eight to thirty five and then week seventeen home for the jaguars and pretty good schedule. I i gotta have on your team. Maybe sure i could certainly see mattress being picked up. And if he's had success being used against the jaguars you know. I think part of the problem though with shootout idea and then the patriots defense be really good this year. Yeah you're the patriots defense. We really good this year so it's hard meaningless so's the bills often so could easily get there but the bills are gonna be super super pass. Savvy i dunno. I thought what did i thought by making maximum starter. Here's my immediate ratchets. First off of it certainly improves the passing game. As a whole i have. Johnny smith is a top twelve fantasy tied in. I prefer him to hunter. Henry and of hunter and retail and hundred henry were to miss some time remember hundred. He's never played all sixteen games in his. Nfl career is miss time every single year. He's been in the nfl. I'm aware of that. When they gave him a lot of money. That part time. It was kind of a bummer. He's good with his though. But but you know the covered was bare so they needed to get somebody so the weeks in which hunter henry is out at. That happens you jonathan. It's going to be a top five top six fantasy tight end like he's super talented And so i like him a lot. I think if i have to pick a new england wide receiver. I'll take jacoby myers. I haven't right justin side. My top that had wide receivers. The problem jacoby myers like i think he's a nice player last year. He had it in every game in which he had. I think it was six games in the six games in which he had seven or more targets average. Seventeen point two fantasy points per game. If you are really to numbers we notice he had was the most sag shoulders after passes that either were down to him or sailed over said so we led the league in that to a lot of this a lot of lot of lot of size sad this jobs off after third down and so yeah led the league in a lot of those categories but the The challenge there is that week seven on mars at a thirty percent. target sure introduced a massive volume. Just because they didn't have anyone else. But i think adding you know. Guys like aga- kendrick born and a tight ends and i just see him getting back. China target share. So yes the next player In certainly value having a match jones under center but not something that i'm targeting is more of a late round guy i think. Bigger here is damian harris. Oh my guy. I already have him for. Eighty two one win the rushing title. Let a terrible flyer right not a terrible slide off so consider this last year the patriots number. One in the nfl in rush. I'm sorry they remember one of the. Nfl renzo rush percentage number two in the nfl in rush percentage. Now that can do. The quarterback had noticed roach and so that skews all that all.
Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
New England Patriots Cut Cam Newton; Mac Jones to Start
"Speaking with our breaking news at foxborough. The patriots are releasing cam newton. And we'll move forward with as their quarterback pro football focus posted this week that the alabama rookie has the best preseason rookie passing rate since two thousand thirteen and now look to do with him. Couldn't do last year. Get new england back to the playoffs. Oh shannon what will be the patriots record with mac as a start of the season trying to look as you mentioned. I've tried to schedule and looking at it I say this is gonna make the playoffs. And so i believe it's gonna take ten wins for them to make the playoffs. So i'm gonna go ten ten and seven at the bare minimum possibly lebanon states. But i'll be conservative. I'll say ten and seven I think mayfield play well. I know they're not going to rely olmec as much as maybe some of the other quarterbacks but they're going to run the football i believe they're going to be a top five running team and everything they do is going to be predded gonna be set up the running game so they're gonna be heavy play action. They went to the to tidy. As they went and got a hindrance free agency got john newsouth upgraded the wide receiver position. I think decide nelson born. Yeah so they got some weapons. I man i still like jacoby. Myers i like here tomorrow. Watching the better he gets. I really liked jacoby. Myers in so with that being said skipped. I'm gonna say they go tunas seven and they make the playoffs.
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Guys like Jacoby Myers, hunter Henry, Johnny Smith. These are all players of the Patriots breaking news here. I wish we had a big cut now. A little bit of a siren that we could go on. Hang on, hang on, hang on, I got it. Let me finish my take walks, find some siren. So when they cut off the middle of the field for Jacoby Myers, they had to go outside the numbers to something and nothing was there. And all season long, teams are going to sit all over those tight ends and Myers between the numbers, crowd that area, get that in that box. And they're going to force cam or Mac to throw the ball outside. And the Patriots are going to have to rely upon Nelson Aguilar, Kendrick Bourne, Nikhil Harry, somebody else, right? To win on the outside and win a one on one matchup. And last night, we saw that on third down, that that's exactly what happened. Do you have your breaking new siren here or not? I thought I did. All right. Breaking news siren and it was breaking news about a siren. Okay, so the breaking news is that wait, wait, wait, here it is. Here it is. Okay. Oh boy, there we go..
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"It is interesting that the guy like Nelson Aguilar, for example, has nothing more caught a pass in two weeks because I was out there at joint practices against the eagles. He had a great first day in Philadelphia. Second day, not so much, started dropping passes already, didn't catch a ton on that day. And then all he was hurt a little bit this week, right on and off the field a little bit this week. But he's gone really quiet. He's gone really quiet. Johnny Smith has made some plays this week, certainly made some more plays yesterday than today, but he's made plays. I think that he's been fine. Hunter Henry's still in the red non contact Jersey. Kendrick born in Jacoby Myers have been solid. Myers has certainly been very, very good. Born's been more okay, right passable. And his role, I'm not overly concerned about the weapons, but I definitely don't think that they're busting down the door with these weapons either, right? This is what a great receiving core. But it will definitely help if hunter Henry is back out there by week one. That's for sure. That's gonna be a big difference. And I think sometimes just with the lack of contact, even in fully padded practices, you can't fully see what the running backs will do in the passing game. So I'll say that. But yeah, outside Jacoby Myers who, by the way, he's been fantastic in is going to be a real find is UD FA. I think he could be a legitimate slot receiver in the NFL. I think he's there. But with agaro, and we talked about this at the beginning of camp, right? There's going to be drops. That's the player he is. That's why he's not an elite talk to your wide receiver. He is elite speed. He is elite agility he can get down the field, all of that is a good route runner, but if you don't catch the ball, it's tough and with him kind of what you expect is all right, there's going to be a big place there's going to be drops. You just need the big place to outweigh the drops. And that's what was happening at the beginning of camp. It was maybe dropping a ball of practice, but there would be two, three, deep plays that he would make and take off the defense. That skills tipping back the other way now, where it feels like there's more drops than home runs. And if he's going to do that, it's going to be a problem because their whole offense is predicated on it and if he'd just becomes a guy whose speed is there to keep the defense on us, but you're not really using it. All right, well, you could have had to me your bird back for a tenth of the cost it would do the same thing. So I'm not saying agile is a total bust. It's not what this is, but you know, you want guys to be playing their best going into the start of the season and I don't know that he's playing his best football right now. You just hope that the injuries that he has suffered through camp that have limited his practice time aren't going to lead back to Nelson Aguilar just developing really slowly in the system, right?.
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Quick game passing underneath the defense to the backs to gunner a chef ski a few times, caught a couple passes underneath the defense. So the full repertoire today. The three level repertoire of accuracy decision making, decisiveness, all those types of things from Mac. What was the most impressive detailed aspect of the game today from Mac? Yeah, you know, well first, I think the command I keep going back to this, I've gone back to it since the beginning, the command that he has when he's under center. It's a night and day from where he was on day one. You know, his voice is different when he calls the cadence out with all the office yesterday. So that, you know, big picture that growth continues to impress me. Just today, you know, it was the short stuff, and he had some nice deep passes. The throw to Jacoby Myers in the back corner of the end zone at the end of practice was probably his best throw of the day, but you make one or two of those throws a game. And you can't okay, Patrick Mahomes aside, you can't necessarily win sustainably on those throws, right? You need to be a very special team. This isn't the big 12. You're not doing that sustainably. It was, you know, just the timing and the accuracy of what he did underneath. You talked about the three levels, but the way he operated underneath, I thought Kendrick Bourne said something interesting today. Somebody asked him about his level of trust with Mac Jones and how they trust each other. And he said, you see it. I run a ton of in cuts. That's trust. And it is. Not necessarily in this practice setting, but macros has to know he's going to make the catch because if that ball's tipped on an in cut over the middle short, it's probably intercepted and born as to trust him that he's not leading him into a defender or throwing a hospital ball. And that trust is there. And that's not, you know, people think the short stuff's easy. It's not. Not in traffic. And the short stuff is what makes the Patriots offense go. You're not going to have those opportunities to throw the ball 35 yards into the corner to Jacoby Myers if you can't hit what's underneath to set it up. And that's what, I mean, he's done it, but today was the best example..
Patriots Dynasty Podcast
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast
"I had to back my by video up to keep up with steve illegal stream. He's got the ghetto. Shit i got the spectrum going now now just because this is an audio medium and nobody can see your greg but you have a computer on your lap. And there's a light directly behind you so it's just a silhouette of you. Which is i know how grumpy your face looks right. Allie trump. he sounds pretty calm. I was grumpy for a second there. But he did a little bit of meditation. Zither deep breathing. And he's he's back. I was sad. I was disappointed not mad. We were disappointed to not be able to chat with our brother i was. I'm not gonna put anywhere with that. I think it's great to have you both here. It's been while since the three of us have chatted patriots. Great gimme some. Give me some predictions. Yeah some hot take. I wanted to know how you think this is gonna go. We can we can. We can follow indies as well all right my heartache. Yep jacoby myers leads the team in receptions in yeah. We actually talked about that. We didn't think that's a very hot. Take and yeah and even agreed to that one and then he's auction their jaw johnnu. Yeah i thought he made the heartache would be Somebody else being the leader. How about this. How about this. How other take a step. Further jacoby myers top-five wide receiver in the nfl. I think you're going to say ridiculous every year. Not offense play. The year came. Jude on defenses. And you agree with me. You fucking idiot. I didn't agree with you. I said that was the least of your hot days because the the most are we keeping. Sony michel. See making the opening day roster an harry. I've heard harry's point well. And i think they need receiver more than a nieta running back right. Yeah yeah there. Some sick running backs yeah. We went through the list and we went through. Like they're gonna keep everybody and then see like what about jay jay taylor and they get the ball inside the ninety nine. They gave the harris twice in scored. A touchdown will get it. That's how they started the game. You promising yeah. How sony eight. Nee i say yeah. They seem to like them. They do reason. I get it. He's going on the field. Just doesn't stay on the field law.
Patriots Beat
"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Alongside me as always 98.5 is Alex, Barth. We're going to sit here for about an hour with you guys and breakdown Patriots Washington from last night. As you can see, I'm twenty-two thirteen victory for the Patriots. But obviously, in these preseason games, Alex. It's not really too much about the final score. It's, it's always fun to get the win, but it's not necessarily about the final score. It's sort of the process, over the results here and I thought last night, all things considered. This was a pretty chalked game for the Patriots. I sort of feel like the song is played, when we expected them to play, where they, we expected them to play outside of maybe some exceptions on the defensive line, if we're going to get to here in a bit, but for the most part, it was kind of a job. For Bill Belichick in the Patriots and we didn't get too many curveballs. Like, you know, Matt Jones obviously didn't start over Cam Newton or, you know, whatever the case maybe write a wide range of playing over Jacoby Myers or something crazy like that, right? Yeah. No, I would like to point out. I absolutely nailed the quarterback situation when my Verizon up on the back. Go ahead. What was it on Tuesday that we do honor, where we on Wednesday, that it would be came to him for a Sears or to Mac Jones from the end of the first through Midway, through the third and then Hoyer. That's exactly what we saw. I think that that was the right usage of like to see Mac Jones a little bit more with the presumptive starters. But ultimately, yeah, I think that, you know, normally you walk away from this game, this first preseason game and you're talking about, well, okay, they took it out because this that stood out because that like you said, there's some minor stuff on the in the defensive front besides that. I don't know. That there was anything that jumped out is like, okay and needed totally Rejects. Expectations. Because this happened. I thought it was a little bit different honestly. Usually, with Bill Belichick. We got a few more curveballs. Maybe he's showing us something out of training camp. That's really kind of look over here, but we're actually looking over there as a coaching staff. Maybe that's the case with a thing. Like Akeem Spence, vs. Henry Anderson, right? The team obviously. Starting Akeem Spence yesterday. I have some theories as to why he came spend started and played so much in the beginning of the game that we can get to. But we gotta start with the quarterbacks. And before we get into Mac Jones, which is really the meat of this discussion page there, anything at all that you took away one way or another. In a major way from Cam Newton's seven passes last night because I sort of throw out that that game last night for Cam and kind of say I'm going to lean on the two training, two weeks of training cap leaned on his experience. And what we've seen throughout his career and I don't really put much stock into anything. We saw at a cam last night. Yeah. He had one. Nice girl. Jacoby Myers, I thought the ball placement, that's not quite a thorough. He was making last year. He had another throw on the screen pass to James White, where they were just out of sync. James White said, after the game that that that was Chase. Young kind of blowing up the play as chasing intends to do, as we saw last night. He's quite the player. So yeah, I, you know, I'm not going to say I'm higher or lower on Cam Newton today and that's not a bad thing. It's just you don't have enough of a sample size to make any judgment..
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"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"And he talked about this when we've spoken to him and he said, hey, you know, last couple of years I was so focused on being as Bryant like being this big body box out and type of guy, right? But I lost a lot of my speed. I lost a lot of my agility, I was in light on my feet. You know Nicole has a lot more potential. I see what you're saying about the who has more value to this roster right with Richard. Wilkerson's contributions on special teams. But let's talk a little bit about Wilkerson because he is another one of those players where he's had these flashes and training camp, stimulating the Keel. And you wonder if it's real or if it's this training camp stuff, right? And I that's why I brought Maurice Harris is when you kind of look at that situation. It was the first as many Camp of Marie's terrorists. This is the first couple weeks of training camp with in Wilkerson. But again, is a guy that has zero NFL production. He has one NFL game under his belt and his first year with the Patriots, a 2020, undrafted rookie very unproven player. So how much is this practice and a player that's having a couple of good practices during training camp and how much of this is they've actually found something in a few Wilkerson because it can go one or two ways, right? It can be awesome car or it could be Jacoby Myers, right? And you sort of had to figure out which one it is. Well, I think it's somewhere in between, I'm not telling you that way. When I say, I think Christian Wilkerson has been good. I'm not telling you that he's going to be there. Leading receiver in two or three years. Wait, I think Jacoby Jacoby Myers could be the Patriots. Leading receiver this year. I don't know that he'd be my first pick off. I wouldn't be totally shocked if it happened, either, right. I don't know if you disagree with that or not, but I think there's a chance. I don't know that that's your catches. The engine cover tires. Could leave the team this year, in terms of receptions, right? I don't know the Christian Wilkerson ever gets there, but.
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"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I think Johnny Smith's going to be their number one receiver, in terms of catches, then you have Nelson agholor, who's going to be kind of the intermediate Guy game. Get to Jacobi Myers and he's even battling with Kendrick Bourne. So that's right about where he should be. You're not going to add a wide receiver. Who's going to usurp him at this point is going to cost too much to do it. If you really want to own, I think we're Jacoby Myers is right now the role. They have them in based on what we saw last year is perfect, he's going to thrive in that role. He's going to be a contributor. I think that. Yeah I I think that people, you know, they using that as we have Jacoby Myers is our second wide receiver, like using that. As a way to knock this offense, I think you're off base. You're not looking at it with the full picture. If it was, if you're running it back with Ryan is out again, then yeah. I'm more of a conversation but you're not. So right, I think the biggest issue that you have with Jacoby Myers in why people don't get more on born within this speed, right? I mean he's just not he's not a fast wife has never been predicated on a line speed at the wide receiver position. Other than yeah. Other than like cooks and like randomly right. Only two guys, you could think of that really won on on straight lines, right? Outside of moss and Cooks, they generally have wage. Guy, whether Phillip Dorsett or damiere Byrd was just going to run up the field and keep the opposing defense honest everybody else. It's more about small space quickness, instead of straight line speed. Yeah, and Jacoby has got that, he's got great ability to set up routes set up, his brakes understands leverage, understands how to attack coverage, really good against man coverage last year. And just overall was a very smooth white out and a very easy efficient wide out every single time. He was targeted out of all the receivers last year, the Patriots against man coverage, he's the only guy that even came close to having good numbers friendly, you know, he had good numbers..
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"jacoby myers" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I just think with them, right they look at value our how do they value their not you're not getting him for what? Is it? Six games? Right? Yeah suspension the first six games of his contract and he served he survived those games at the end one. It's one game. Okay, so then yeah, like maybe he's an option I again with I just I I've said this before he's going to be probably top three paid received. Free agency, right? If not top five. I you know, if you're going to spend twenty five million dollars at that position give me a $15 guy and a ten million dollar guy instead of just 125 million dollar guy. That's just thought, you know, the Patriots need more than one receiver more than one established receiver. Can they go to the draft sure, but what are they really have four nfl-caliber wide receivers on this roster? I you know what Julian Edelman status is going to be during the year. N'keal. Harry obviously is still a project to Mere bird is a third fourth receiver. Maybe he's not a guy you count on a Jacoby Myers is the closest thing they have and she's even you know, he he shouldn't be your first receiver. He should be your third or fourth. So right there you need at least two. If not three guys, if you spend all that money on will Fuller all that's going to have to happen is we'll Fuller's going to get double-covered and yeah, Jacoby Myers has a slightly better year than he did last year, but you're kind of just right back where you were they need to have Optimum. They need guys who will stress the defense from different points blowing twenty million dollars on will Fuller. Well, he's a good player doesn't solve that it needs to be multiple players. They need to build an offense not just a bulb talent and what it's going to cost them to bring in will Fuller I think handcuffs them in acquiring some of that second level talent that they ultimately need to get back into contention. Yeah, I agree with all that. I think the biggest thing was off though just to play Devil's Advocate is that the Patriots have been the slowest offense in the NFL for two years, right? They've been I would say even arguably three years if you want to go back to the 2018 season, even though I'm with a Superbowl not offense had issues certainly during the regular season that time that's a really big issues and will Fuller when he's healthy and that's that's a big if if he's healthy he comes in here and he brings a level of explosiveness that they have not had since I guess Brandin Cooks, right? They they just haven't had somebody that can truly explode and create big plays for the offense..