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Big Brother 21 Friday Morning Update

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Big Brother 21 Friday Morning Update

"Darien drawn rather. Yes. Strategy. Thing. Jeez. You could do to Morrow. He will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for June twenty-seventh turn Armstrong and with me today is I didn't. Yeah, I'm doing amazing Taryn. I'm excited to be back. Big brothers upon us feeds upon us. I made some cookies last put them aside for you, but I did save you can have this. Wow. That's just gross puja. Why are you making cookies? Did you put eggs in those cookies, I put eggs I didn't want hands. I'm sorry. I sorry. Oh my God. I just priante even wanna be around you right now. You're lost man. They're good. Something truly over. Yeah. I'm so glad I'm here. Karen, we don't talk about stuff. Imagine hating someone for making cookies. I, I hate that you make cookies puja. I hate it. Makes me feel sad. You know, the legend the immortal, Angie late in one said, all we need is more cookies. And here's Lovie, many years later, getting cookies, and people are not happy. Imagine being mad at someone for making delicious treats because everyone loves the cookies are amazing. But we're gonna complain about them for hours on it. Dan, these cookies to hell. All right. So we are here to update. You on everything happened yesterday on the big brother, twenty one live feeds and. There was there was a decent amount here less yesterday. We tried to give you the rundown of what was going on. Most of it, I think was was fairly on point some of it, maybe we'll have a little bit of a correction to make. Or maybe things are already shifting. So we'll try to give you a sense of what happened yesterday. It was day nine in the house, and we had the veto competition before the veto competition as I mentioned yesterday. Right. As we went live for the update. Cliff did give us a shout out on the feeds. Those very cool of cliff who's really funny the way he did it to us like, drinking, his coffee and like looking in a different direction. He was just like. Just like. Shoutout to our age. AP Taryn print Melissa love you guys. Scrape now. I love just staring into nothing. But like saying meaningful things I. We should probably the only the Lovie stuff it happens throughout the day, and it also happened yesterday. And we sort of talked about it yesterday. So probably can just address it here before we go into the veto. But, but yeah, there's they just Tate Lovie, and it's, it's, it's pretty bad. It's not great Taryn. And like, you know, I've said I'm glad I'm here for that. Because you know, as a pudgier Brown guy that isn't in Canada. Now I moved here from Dubai about eight years ago now and I'm definitely have been in this position. I've been in the OB spot on obviously. It's kind of like it's not it's an implicit bias. Oh, he's different. He's just being creepy and all that. And, and like the thing Holly said about the Nick and groped me all day long, but not Lovie, like Ono good. And it just seems like. I don't necessarily think they know what they're doing right. I don't think that's what it is. But I definitely do feel like they are looking at lens of he's different. But also, we don't like he's a little creepy, there was this one moment yesterday where he went to lake. He went to wards Catherine, and then, like woke up and Hanoch on him and he apologized up and down, and it looked so I felt for him because he was like, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean on those in the wrong, and Katherine Katherine came from like she apologised sheep up. But the minute this happened. All I could feel like everyone else is going to have a field day with. This is not great. It's not a good position. Man. I really feel for Lovie. I really do because it's not easy coming into a into a place like this, where you are somewhat different than everyone else. And like obviously what we've heard from Lovie, what we've seen from his life on the preseason. He started a fraternity. He does. Well, people love him. He gives. Back like he does so much, and he is appreciated and I don't think Lovie feels attack. There's been moments we've saw the feeds last night. We're always just laying there, naming houseguests off one by one. I'm just being very complimentary towards him. So I don't even think he knows what's going on or he necessarily feels it. But I also think because he's to deal with this before. But it just it's so charged and I was watching feeds after the veto and there was a solid like six seven minutes where they just like went around roasted Lovie roasts and OBI. I don't remember who came into the room was. Hey, so there's so much they can sit around like this anyone want it. Otherwise. Okay. No. Okay. So then he's going to have it. And then they leave and samll tos will there goes the Turkey bacon? Like, yes. And you could have wanted, you know, just a roasting that makes no sense, man. And like you got big men Jack over here. Cal Drago or count grog. Oh, you thinks he's men. Okay. So he comes in, and he's like, okay. So, yeah, why is this guy is not being? Surely, she's been wearing the same shirts day rate he smells. I'm like, okay, man, not everyone has the confidence and the charisma to have a ugly tattoo that says, hi my name is on your chest and still walk around, like your big cheese. Big mount on the block like not everyone's gonna feel comfortable being that way feel like he's being ostracized for things that anyone else could have done and has gotten away with before. But for some reason, Lovie is just being taken and shredded apart by these people. And it is one of those things kind of cliquey you in Amman touched on it. We're like we've seen we've all been high school, right? Most of us, and it's one of those clicks form and more often than not in a group of friends, or in high school situation, there is that one guy in the group that, like everyone will roast. And that's the thing that brings them together. Lord knows I've been the guy that gets roasted and I'm kind of okay with it, because it brings everyone together, and it's not like to militias and I'm fine with it. But this just seems like they made their bonding bombings done. Everyone's like an agreement, like okay, we're not really. Feeling OB? Okay. We're all on the same page, but it just keeps keeps keeps happening and my favorite spot last night was, so it's very clear that guys are having fun with this in front of Lovie, because they'll bring up the cookies, and then nicoting there, because Tommy was at why are you hiding them and then over, I'm not hiding on this putting them next there for everybody. Like, I'm not even eating them and Nick. And Sam are having a field day with this just like kind of like stoke in the fire in China, like rise it up and they're laughing about it. Obviously did seem like OB wasn't like two pressed about it. He thought it was just banter amongst broS. But from everything else, we know this just look even worse to me. And it's just not great carrying it is not great. Not happy in. No, it's, it's not it's not it's not good. It's really. I, I have never seen somebody so ostracized and so. Like trashed behind his back. That sort of thing. Without with such little provocation. Like, when Ian was in the house in season, fourteen he was he was being kind of weird, right? Like at first I was doing weird things. They're watching him on the camera was like being a little weird. And we love you. But, but, like people were like, oh, this guy's kind of weird, and but even then they weren't like totally trashing him all the time. There's like this kind of weird, he's an easy target. You know, even somebody like Steve who he caught? He caught some some some flack on season. Seven people were making fun of him a lot and that was not super deserved. But at the same time he was kind of awkward at times, and people were kind of, you know, being like he's kind of awkward. He's kinda weird. They were maybe a bit unfair, but Lovie is not that awkward. He's not that weird and he has definitely in my opinion, not done enough to warrant the extreme level of just like. Know he's smelly. He's. Definitely. Again, combined with everything else that's going on. And who's being targeted it definitely looks very bad to me. And I know it does to, to some other people. And I hope that, that. This is always dreamed to be here. I hope that he is able to sort of get past this initial wave. I know that with both Steve, Andy, and of course they did manage to get past that initial wave and, and make some kind of comeback. So I hope that that's in the cards for over here. But yeah, this is this is not great. Not not fun. No, not fun at all. Like, obviously, you mentioned these winners. These past winners who started off having a horrible week one. Josh even could be mentioned in the mix there. But it all boils onto only really hasn't done anything to just serve this like at all. Because I remember when feet I came on, and we're starting to hear these things. I'm like, okay. Well, I've watched anything yet to work in the mornings. I'll get back and I'll check. But it was just heartbreaking to see how this is all going down. Honestly, it is one of those things which is weird because then you have stuff going on at night, where some people I trust them like or like you know, they're saying we can keep him till it. We three week four. And it's like there's obviously, like there's levels of, we're okay. Hey with him. But at the same time, there's just this negative energy regarding him and anything he touches anything he does is just not being appreciated not being taken as a normal thing. And it is problematic and obstacle speaking like has been mentioned not looking good right now. Yes. So of course. Caveat being the one the one complaint about Lovie touching the women. We haven't I haven't personally seen that at all. Of course, that is theoretically valid complaint. And I don't want to say that it's not. In the event that, that it is by, but beyond beyond that, because I haven't seen that at all myself and. Anything else I haven't seen anything to, to warrant any of that. And that's, that's not the primary cause of why most of them are, are making fun of him for the various things that that's going on there. So. Hopefully we can. They can chill. Yeah. Yeah. For the most part, things we've heard is that he was like giving up massages. And people were like they talked to him about it. Maybe he's not doing that anymore. But the primary stuff that we've seen it's a lot about these damn eggs and the cookies. And the fact that he's making the cookies with the eggs, and that wasting my eggs no one like that kind of there's that. And then there's these frustrations about yoga and then the fact that. I can't I can't a lot is a lot of tearing a lot. It's so weird because like, like he in the outside world seems to be a very popular. Everyone loves him kinda guy and it's and that's like another thing of just like. There's something off here. It seems. But. All right. That's that's, that's Lovie. We'll move on from Lovie for now here and let you know what was happening outside of the Lovie stuff here in the house. So the feeds went down for the veto for a while. But when they finally came back up, we saw that Sam is going to be the winner of the veto, and immediately, will, first of all, they were like standing in a circle, talking about veto competition, the comeback, which is like so not used to that with Canada. But. But the Catherine is immediately going to go and start crying in the in the bedroom. And that's because she's paranoid that she's something not going to happen, and she's, she's going to get sent home, inch, so she's gonna cry to Holly and Jackson in particular, she's really concerned that she's like, she's she's freaking out because she doesn't want to be, like, Rachel who freaked out and was sent home, and she's freaking out about that she does want to do that. She does not want to get reverse back door, which is a great term that she is now come up with an coin which will find a Finnish for it. Some point I feel like for the first hour hour and a half of the fees. Catherine just isolated herself in her room and just had a couple of people most for the most part. It was Holly Jackson. They're kind of console her. She was worried. She wasn't happy with her performance in the veto, which also we know that Casey has hosted this veto competition. So Tommy didn't get the. Folks. But yeah. Yeah. Poor tommy. Yeah. It was I think it was something that I've had to catch things like the one that Casey one. Yeah. That's slow MO like throwing stuff towards their face. And after grab because, like, apparently there was some magic onion that Sam Kat and this onion has blossomed into a win for him. Yes. So then we had Jack and Nick talking with they were talking by themselves initially and Jack was saying, okay, Nick, when we get to the final final eight, but we need to do is we need to make a final five. We've no like right away. So like like, who you like me you SIS Christie? And then who do you think of the fifth, like Tommy or Sam? And then before Nick can even answer Sam walks in. And they start talking about using veto, whether what do you wanna do? Sam. Probably probably use it. Like I was thinking, maybe maybe cliff and Jack was kind of, like I mean, it doesn't even matter. Does it like you could not use it on cliff? You could use it on, Catherine doesn't even matter because it would be unanimous anyway. But I mean whatever. And Nick was kind of like, yeah, but we should probably use it on cliff is what I'm thinking is probably the better one and San was like, yeah. That's kinda what ours leaning. So yeah, we'll, we'll use it on, on cliff, and I'll say, it's because, like we're both dads and stuff. So. Yeah. 'cause I'm dad and he's dead. So I use it on him. Very, very high level strategy talk going on definitely big data energy coming into play. He's very music. Yeah. Nichols. He's been through a lot. And you know, we love them. Everyone loves cliff. Everybody loves cliff. He's the new Richmond is great. I love that everyone loves cliff really happy about this. And all these, it was very clear that, okay? This is where the veto is going to go, this conversation is what stemmed my favorite moment of the whole night game speaking, because when they're talking about all this stuff about the alliances. Okay, so what do you think of what do you think stage five and then? Same kind of looks dead. And doesn't understand what's going on, is we're talking alliances. Whereas all we up able. Come on. Sam wake up ova coffee. So I was thinking about, like a five thing like. Thing you like stage stage, five and Osama's like state. What, what are you saying, like? And Nick like alliance dummy. Oh workshop in a bombs? Oh, bull man. Oh, what are we going to call it? To stage five. We said. He is tragic, and what else is tragic the name stage fought really weird. Not great named the really excited about it. Because it's like, oh stage five sent him right out the back door hand movement, like, yeah, it was like. Karate chop. Like, yeah. No. That's SAM's that SAM's input into the alliance. So if you see that all season blame Sam. So so, you know, without without Nick answering the question I guess Jack was just like Sam isn't it? It's sam. And this is going to happen a lot Jack. So Catherine is still going to be sort of like. Paranoid about everything and freaking out. She's talking to Jess, and I mean, lots of people are gonna kinda take turns come through Catherine. But in particular with Jess, she talks about wanting to target Bella Catherine is, is really the one person in the house. That's really gunning for Bella. She claims it's because Bella is close to Chemi. But everyone knows that it's because bell is close to Jackson. Exactly the new the future roommates. She is not liking that, that deal at all. So that's why Catherine's looking a lot. Yes. We also had Jack and Tommy, where jazz Jack with his fresh new stage. Five alliance where you know, only three of them know about it so far, he is now moving onto Tommy, who was the other option to bring into the final five and he says, hey, Tommy, we need to make a final five. Another one. We already have a final three, we need to we need to pump that up making fun of five. Within the eight within the five and the three. That's what we got going on. Tommy. What are you thinking? And Tommy's like we bring in what Sisson Holly. He's like, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. What about Christie though? Tommy is like, well, I thought we were already doing Chris, I thought Christi was in the three, I got that, but we don't you think we need a guy. He's like, I mean maybe maybe Jackson Jackson bringing Jackson. Okay. But that's six. So. When he five do your math. Jack is really just. Tweeted this out, it's just like like who does Jack wanna be in a final five with its everyone? He won't everyone in his final five. And this is, this is exactly what I was sort of imagining. I was going to get from Jack based on what I saw the day before and he is not letting me down in terms of how bad he is at this game. Yeah, no definitely. And his reasoning is because the arrogance of this got right? So we you guys talked about yesterday. How everybody's kinda like Jackie so hot he saw he knows what what's going on? He's got everyone. But oh my God. He's so hot Jack knows this, because the arrogance has definitely built up this reasoning for doing these final five Tommy was just like the call dibs. I wanna call dibs to start this off and have our five within the eight so that when we get there, we know what's going on. And then let everybody fight good. Keep that to yourself. You're telling this to a lot of people. He's named a lot of people. He is. Twice in two different scenarios. He's left Jackson out of this. He when he was talking with Semin Nick doesn't bring Jackson as an option when he's talking to Tommy doesn't bring Jackson until Tommy brings up Jackson like this is some loose lips. Sink ships kind of scenario where if he doesn't have someone within the power that's with him in the next couple of weeks. All of this is going to blow up in his face is gonna be very obvious. What's going on obviously, the people use aligning with have mentioned a couple of times in the last two days, that should we get to eight? He's the first one gone. So Jack is doing himself, no favors by jacket himself up, and like trying to be this big men in the house and trying to get all these lines is calling dibs because everyone seemed through what he's doing. Not not a great player. Amanda and the Chad said Jack is ugly now. And I just read that in Eddie's voice from big brother can't who seven. I'm saying this space, but he is ugly. People people really turned on on Jack. Even even in the looks department. I guess. Yeah, I'm telling you gotta you gotta keep the personality there. The looks like they can't stand up to it. Yeah. The personality. And then when you've got this weird tattoo, which I'm not getting over this really bad tattoo. I don't tribal tattoos. Everyone universally things are awful. This is also really awful. Not great worse, or better than than SAM's bad ass arm tattoo. We're splitting hairs here. I still think I still think SAM's tattoo is worse because Sam also than of any redeeming. Classic good looks to mask the tattoo. Mad and bad there. All right. So. Bella is going to talk a little bit with SIS about wanting to give me a pity vote. Do you think people be mad at me if I just wanted to keep Chemi in game, I know it's going to be like. A unanimous. So maybe not making it unanimous with my one vote, do you think people be upset about that? Like, oh, maybe. Maybe maybe you talk to people that I don't. I'm not sure this is definitely not great from Bella. I wish I were seeing better things from Bella, but, you know, she is very, very close to Chemi and is just like completely letting Cammie go, which was not great in the first place. And now she is going to sort of publicly be like, and also here's how close, I was with her. I'm going to give her this vote. It's. It's not great. It's not great. I'm hoping that something can turn around here, but I don't love this direction from Bella. Yeah. No, I think we've seen glimmers obviously bells are very entertaining player. I'm very excited to have Bella the DR's are going to be explosive. I'm here for all of that. She's had a couple of good reach too. She was the one where during the rounds people were making the Catherine. She was one of the ones who she is the one that sees through cliff is doing. Everyone loves cliff cliff Connor knows what he's doing. He's playing up this old man persona and it's working. So she has good reits. I do think she has good. Re this was a mistake, though. Because if you truly aren't a position where you're like, well, okay, I'm going to sacrifice someone I'm really close with. But it'll get me further. It'll lock me in with a bunch of other people have more numbers with me. Good don't waffle, especially don't waffle when the nominations haven't been set now like let the veto ceremony happened. Let it be like a day or two before vixen, if you want float, the idea, you could've easily gone Rogan done this anyway. Way. I mean obviously then people would like Lino were being hurt anyway. So that's the thing. But that's what I'm saying is that just wait. It's way too soon for you to even bring this up. Even if you're feeling this hype away about it do not waffle yet. They're still so many loose pieces. So this is not a good thing, especially because it's gonna get back. It's going to make its rounds. Yes. And the more that I see from the cast, and these people, the more I'm really just feeling like it's it was such a mistake for Bella to throw me under the bus in the way that she she has to be so gung, ho about getting coming out. Cami is Bella is Kemis only person. Like that's pretty valuable in the house, and it's when we're talking about who's going home this week, it's either Chemi who is. You know who who's only has Bella or Katherine, who is the only person targeting Bella? It's, it's the most clear vote imaginable. And from what I can tell like basically, the only reason is being targeted or at least the main reason is being targeted comes from Bella and what she told the group about what candy was saying like the bull not, not great. And at the very least I think she should try to be walking this back a little bit like oh, you know what he's actually been saying some nice things lately, especially given what happens a little bit later in the night, where we're gonna learn the Christie is starting to doubt the decision to target Cami. I think that if Bello were aware enough to know that was going on. She could get in there and help push Kristie in that direction. But instead, she's focused on some other things, which, you know, obviously sometimes inevitable, but. I want to see I want to see more from Bella here because I think she's in a position to do some good. Yeah, I definitely agree. And the problem here is that it's not really sentenced stone. So anything could happen. She does have the wiggle room here to play with to potentially keep Kenny by dropping and crumbs of information like that or false falsities or whatever have you. She can definitely make this work. It is possible as you mentioned Kristie is kind of second guessing everything there is a lot of back and forth. The power struggle is real and live, so it's still possible. So if Bella wakes up this morning and decides maybe I can salvage this I'm here for that. So we'll see how that all plays out. I have not lost hope on Bella at all. I think no matter how this week goes, I think she could still do a lot of good with the type of player she is and the information at hand and how the house is set up, but I think saving Cami, and getting rid of Catherine would be very effective for because should Catherine win. H next. Week. We all know that Bill is going to touch the block at least once. Yeah. And even even beyond just like being directly targeted just the fact that somebody is talking bad about you and putting you out there in the universe as like, hey look out for this person this person's dangerous like having that person go home is, is very valuable. But and having an allied likes you is also very valuable. So. We'll see. We'll see now we going to take a quick break for our sponsors. And we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by Cox. We TV from Cox you can find all your favorites, all in one place. It does it have the YouTube, you bet. And what about that? Netflix thing Netflix, too. And although superhero movies her has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself. Okay. I think we're done now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on TV from Cox and we're back. So let's get back to the show. So as I mentioned Kristie is starting to doubt the plan to target Comey. She is getting a little bit emotional herself. She talks to. Sorry that's a little bit later. I she talked to Jackson. Where she, I think she was already starting to the plan a little bit here, but it doesn't get more, it doesn't get worse than to later, but she's talking to Jackson about how p Jackson is talking about how people are noticing, how close Bella and Nick are starting to become, and that's one of the, the story lines from the day as well. Or at least the night is that we there were rumors that the Nick and Bella had been kissing at one point. It seems like those were true rumors, maybe not at the moment that they thought they were happening, but it has happened at one point, but they're not like super sold on actually being together. A lot of these quote unquote showman's is are like. It almost feels like a lot of people are kind of like show managing their second trip or third choice. Mostly because sisters in there like everyone's first choice, but nobody's going for it. Yeah. There was on this person's toes. So everyone's voting. Sis? But, but anyway, so Jackson talking about Bella and Nick little bit. I'm not sure if he is concerned for them or if he is maybe a little bit a little bit jealous himself of how close Bella is with Nick. But they do talk about not wanting to be seen as duos themselves because. Like I don't wanna be seen as like with Katherine Legge. That's, that's not what's going on. Like, I'm not it's not like that with Catherine, and I don't want people to see you and Jack the same way and Christie was like, oh, I hope people don't see me Jack like that. 'cause it's not like that. And Jackson's like I mean, I don't know Jackson, of course being the main person who talks about them being in love. So Catherine, again, explaining like I'm not, not into Jack like that. He's, he's a good guy and, and Jackson's going to start explaining about how. Maybe maybe of like cat one point put. You know, it's, it's, you know, she's more like a friend, you know, like I'd go hook up with other people, and it'd be it'd be fine. We'd be like close friends and stuff like that. I really I mean I want to shoot my shot with with SIS. Just a really poorly worded, send like this is not the right nickname for you to say something like this all man. Yeah, but I don't wanna step on Jack's toes because as we all know men own the women that they're interested in. This dumb, bro, Cody nonsense of like. And like you, we all know Jack's personalities, I wanna call dibs. So, you know, that's in play with these people. Not great. Yeah. And his thing of like. Yeah. Kaffa type of girl. Like if you wanna Vegas, I hooked up with a bunch of people like she'd be supportive, and she'd be into that. I'm like that'd be cool. And if I have an opportunity if I don't opportunity to do it in this house. Why not? That's why we kind of went for it. So who are these people, not great? And then obviously Christie's mentioned this bunch of times if I'm going to be assumed to be in a showman's. I better be in a show Mets. Otherwise, I'm not okay with that. I'm not getting any of the benefits of being in a show and I'm just being deemed as being. So she doesn't like that. And he doesn't wanna be attached to her, and the Nikki Bella, which is a female wrestler. So we're gonna call them. Nikki Bella if they're together because that's an actual person. So the Nikki Bella connection is definitely something that people are noticing a lot more, which also kind of. Attach itself to what we said about Bella earlier where you don't want your name being put out there by someone, especially when people are starting to notice your paired up, or they think you're paired up with somebody. So that's also not good for those two. Yeah. I think we've, we've finally figured out how to end show manses in big brother. It's, it's put. Two of the hottest people in the house were eligible, but make them impossible to actually be in a relationship with. And then other people will try to get in relationships, but they'll always be like, yeah, but I like this other person more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We could we are on the way to make potentially not have anything really happen this season which is great because there's plenty of that going on on. I don't want to give it much clout, but love island is going to have that, which just quick side note. Did you see the photo of Bailey swaggie? See Winston Brett altogether on what looks like a love island type scenario. I do not. Yeah. That might be happening didn't realize Britain Winston. We're unlevel. Very well. Could be what I saw a picture. I don't know how much I know about that. But yeah, so the Nikki wanna talk about the keep saying, Nick. No, the Nick Bella thing, I want to kind of talk about a because it does look like they're like into each other. But we'll from what it sounds like Bella is either staying currently living with her. I don't know if it's current boyfriend pass boyfriend, but it's a scenario like that, where they don't wanna kinda like do anything to jeopardize, or at least that's what Nick keep saying. So that's the thing that will probably touch on later conversation did happen later. Yes. So we, they all so Jackson and Christy also talked about that. They want gest out next. A lot of people want Lovie out next, but they actually would like to keep over your around a little bit longer and go for just now. That's pretty obvious. When it comes to Jackson, we saw in the first night of feeds that just is basically gunning for Jackson. Talking about how he's untrustworthy so I mean, if anything Jackson should want Jess out this week, but he does want to take a shot at Jess instead of Lovie if possible and. Christie on board with that idea Christie is one of the. People who is a little bit more, like, hey guys, let's be maybe a little bit nicer to Lovie. Let's like try to think of him as an actual human being that has feelings and wants to get along with people. She still complains about him. But he's a little bit more understanding or at least trying to be. So I think she's not as gung ho about, it's really it's interesting watch watching because initially, you got this sense that like everybody just wants to target Lovie. But then the more you hear people actually talk about it. You have people like Jack who is like, yeah. Lovie sucks. But I don't wanna target him because he loves me. He loves he eats out of the palm of my hand. He he's in love with me. I can make them do whatever I want. I don't want to get rid of him yet. And then, you know you have. People like Jackson who's like, well, I don't I don't I don't want Ovalles out. Simply yet, at least, like I have other people I wanna go after I Christie, who doesn't want Oviedo yet. We're gonna learn later that cliff. Likes lovie. He, he wouldn't. You know, we'll talk about cliff, but a lot of people like seem to syllabi like I don't really actually want to target Lovie, but he is just like the general consensus just like everyone's going to target him. But the people that actually want to target him are kind of few, and far between, and it seems like the main person here that wants to target Lovie is actually Nick, and Nick is kind of the person who is putting it out there that, hey, we need to be targeting Lovie, and Nick pretty powerful player in the game right now. Because apparently Lovie Lovie head you, one of the things that made Lovie, an outcast was something to do with Cami Chemi throwing over his name out there talking about Lovie Lovie got caught talking about Nick or something along those lines than Nick kind of turned into a target. But if Nick does not retain as much influence and power as he does. I could see Lovie surviving for a few more weeks if that's if that's in the cards for him. But. Jackson Christie, they don't want over gone next. No. And honesty. It's kind of like to go back to those clicks for a second. There is always that one person within that group who is like the one everyone roasts, and that bonds everyone together you take that person out someone asked to replace them ecosystem, shuffles over. So you kind of want to keep him because he's like, he's, you don't know it, but he's the glue kind of thing a unit. Yeah. You guys need to make fun of him to keep your bond going once he leaves, what are you gonna make fun of each other that's going to cause problems? So as much as everyone's like Lovie, everyone's Lovie, easy vote was no one really wants him out. There are quote unquote bigger fish to fry. They need Lovie, the stay. So I feel like that's exactly the kind of time OB needs to work all this out because it does seem like a lot of this stemming from like not really anything concrete. So it's enough that he can easily erase it and redo it just the other things will happen event. Actually along the time line. And I think Lovie will be fine. He just needs to make it through the next two weeks. True story in middle school part of a group people that I didn't particularly like they were very mean to one of the people in the group I left the group, and I decided, I want I want to end this group talks IQ. So I convinced the person that was being made fun of to leave the group and find better better, friends is that person left? They, they started making fun of somebody else who couldn't take it as well as the guy that was initially being made fun of. And so that person left and event is soon the entire group disintegrated it. Yes, it's very, it's very on point with. Yeah, definitely real. It's a real thing, like, because some people have thick skin. They can just take. They know what's going on. That's why usually because this bother me like everyone wants to make fun. I'll make fun back. It's all good. But you need that person little do you know that person is the most important person in the. A group once that person leaves, it's in shambles. So I love that. This is a middle school Tarrant story. So we get to Jessica and Nicole, and they are talking about about the whole situation with Kemi and how, you know, basically, they're like, you know, doesn't doesn't look great, the chemi-, they are they, they are sort of recognizing what I think a lot of people on the outside are recognizing, which is that. Looks kind of racist, if if Christie puts up Cammie for no obvious reason, because it's not like he's blown up or has done anything. Crazy. And it doesn't look great. They're talking about this in the house. And Nicole is like I kind of hope can be stays and goes after the Moby great. Yeah. This is kind of like the point of the night where we start seeing like there's there's possibility here. There's wiggle room. There could be a shift because I'm Christie mentions like her thing is I have no reason to put Kanye. And like that this is the underlying whole thing with Cami, is that there is no real reason as much as Jack wants to sit in a room and say she comes into conversations, weird and makes faces amok like that is not a real thing. That is not a real thing is not canon and again, optically this looks horrendous because the names on all the lips are okay. I Kenny, then Lovie, then Jessica like, come on. Come on. It's nice to see that. This is a thing. Other house guests are noticing and not everyone's just blind to it. Yes. So, so, yeah. They talk about that Lovie does join them and he says he also kinda. Hopes that Chemi doesn't get. Targeted, but he is concerned that if she is targeted that she's going to start throwing them under the bus and him in particular, he says, that's happened before this is kind of what I was referring to earlier where apparently Cami is one of the reasons why Lovie got caught talking about Nick sort of came from Kemi who I assume went to Bella and Bella exposed it to the rest of the group. And so he's worried that if Chemi is nominated that Comey. We'll start to go into panic mode and start throwing people under the bus him in particular. But even people like Jess, or Nicole could start getting thrown under the bus as well. So he's worried about that. Yeah. I feel like it's somewhat of a valid concern because you think about survival mode. Right. So if she is on the block looks like at all hope is lost. You're getting back door. Then you stay then it's like well I almost died. I have I have no fear anymore. So that is kind of about concern I've ever at the same time. It's like, again, don't worry Lovie. It's one of those things where it's like I don't know. I mean, we're looking at it from the outside. I just I have never felt more confident that this big alliance is not going to implode next week like it just looks like such a hot mess. There's so many moving pieces. There are people within these alliances that don't trust each other. There are people that saying they trust Lovie more than they trust Jack. Like everything is going to turn on its head instantly. So I understand why obi's word because obviously. He'd probably kind of feels like he knows what's going on with, like this could happen to me again, but they're so much that could happen with this group of people as so. Cliff is going to talk with Sam, and Nick, he's gonna ask Sam about like what he's thinking about four the veto. And Sam, let's no that he's leaning towards using the veto on cliff. This is obviously great for cliff. He likes that idea. And so he's like, yeah. I would love to work with you guys like us veto on me we can work together like we can make something happen here. And they they're like cool. And so they sort of give him the test. So what would you do? What would you do if you if you want, h UH who'd you target and cliff says, you know, I, I don't know. I mean everyone, but I'd probably I'd probably target somebody like, like Jessica and put put Lovie on the block as well. Well, Jessica, she's been talking about, like this girl, power agenda. So that's not great for us guys, you know. And I like Lovie, I know Lovie likes me, but I also know that other people don't like Lovie I'm trying to distance myself from him. So that's probably what I would do. So obviously. I'm not sure if that's genuinely what cliff would do if he is Jen, because, basically, I mean, basically telling them what they wanna hear that Nick, he knows. I'm magin he knows Nick wants Lovie out that's a pretty out there thing. So if he was close to Lovie, and he's talking with people who have the veto inner talking about using the veto on you. Of course, you're going to say this. So I don't know how much we can take this at face value. Obviously, it wouldn't be the worst move in the world. If he was able to integrate himself with these guys. So maybe he is actually trying to get with them and is willing to do what it takes to go there. I doubt that he plans on winning h wage. I doubt that if he actually one h he would make a move against somebody like, Lovie. I think he knows better than that, that he doesn't have to be the one to do that. It would be very bad for him to be the one to do that. So just, you know something about here. I still I'm not entirely sure where cliffs head is at game wise and where he actually wants to go, and where he actually would go if given the opportunity, but he is definitely. Of course, telling these people what they want to hear. Yeah. And I think it's a smart play because it's a situation where it's reaffirming. Hey. So if one of you win, h next week know that I will vote one of these two out because these are the people, I would have put up so you, you can use me as vote, aka don't put me on the block next to them. So I think that's kind of the play here is I don't wanna be sitting on the block again, which I think would work really well for him, especially because little does, you know, everyone kind of does want him to touch the box because he's been through a lot, so that works out. Also shot up to cliffs on. We got a lovely moment with everyone saying happy birthday. We got to watch that that was nice. He's proud of the man. He's become. Yeah. Though, so touching in a house where we've had a lot of. Problems a couple of days cliff just as being the best. So shout out the cliff and yeah, no, I think he just doesn't want to be on the block. And I think he's playing it. Well, I think he knows that. If worst comes to worst one of these people go that I am fine. And that's all I think he cares about right now is just not sitting on the block, which is good. Because I have a feeling that out of the first, you know, how like usually someone sits on the okay. Well, they've been on the block now just keep putting them up. I think Catherine's looking to be more like that. If she stays in Cliffe's. Yes, Knicks Knicks plan if he wins the next h wage is to put up Lovie, and Katherine, Katherine has the pawn, so. Has no social capital cliff is a fantastic pawn, but everyone likes them so much they don't wanna do that, too. And that's that's pretty impressive. Socially, we'll see how how long it holds though. Cliff does suggest that he would love to work with Nicole, if he could that, you know, getting Nicole involved in this group of people would be great. It feels obvious to me that cliff is doing what he can to be like, I'm targeting the people you want to target. But anybody else that's not involved with the obvious big group. I would love to keep them safe and bring them in if possible because the more outsiders, he's able to pull in with him the better. So he does mention Nicole. They talk about liking Nicole and being potentially on board with that, obviously, this is mostly lip service. I think from Nick and, and Sam they would there's more on board with working with the big group right now. But, but this is a connection that's happening here that could come into play later on. Yeah. Yeah. No from what we're looking at, like, we mentioned, there's this big alliance, but then everyone's kind of somewhat at least opened a feelers and seeing what else is available just in case they have to quote unquote, grab a life vest and jump out of this alliance at any point, you got Jack figuring out his stuff. And this is kind of an opening for them. Because they liked cliff. And if cliff wants to if they go with Clinton clip brings Nicole even better for that. So it is lip service, but I think it's positive lip service because they know that if they really have to they could probably make. That's way. I I'm starting to feel like I have, like a small theory brewing, in my head that I think one of the reasons why we've, we just saw big brother candidate seven and all male alliance is dominate. We saw the brigade also dominate, but we've seen a lot of these, like usually bigger alliance, but even smaller ones with mixed genders. They seem to have more of an issue, and I'm starting to wonder because it's definitely happening here in their twenty one maybe show, manses are the bane of ally of like these early dominant potentially dominant lions is because it's Jackson being jealous of Jack and Christie it's Catherine being jealous Bella and Jackson. It's Holly, Nick getting too close. And making people worried it's Jack being too good looking. It's like. It's really. But when the when it's when it's four straight guys. Even then showman's are usually the biggest cracks in the oh, we've got to be worried about adamant Sam Adams, but Sam is not part of the alliance. So it's easier to get to get it going and thinking about me brother seventeen when there was the big alliance that formed, obviously, Vanessa was instrumental in breaking meta part. But part of that was was with. You know what's her name clay, and, and Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, they got together, and that made some people upset, and, and that was part of what Vanessa was able to use to crack that thing wide open. Something about. Yeah. I think there's this theory has elect big because it does come to a point where you kind of look at the numbers are on, especially if they're all in your lion. Well, this h is kind of became a seven because all end to do this one of them off. And now I don't have to people, not having one person that's one less person. I can rope in into my inner circle so that power struggle is the case and God, it's like I don't understand if this theory stemming into so then people go in for show, manses are great because they're definitely not. I think it's great when they go in for it, and it causes, the paranoia not when it happens, and then it's locked in and then everyone's good with it. That's what we don't. Yeah. I mean I mean think about it like Fouts. Season. They, they imploded because of the fetchy showman's with, with Haley, the Caitlyn and inhaling all of that, and level six did not get into a show, Mance until much later. And by the time that happened, they were already very solidified. And by the time that started tapping that's when they eventually broke up. Yeah, yeah. They had the fact they started with a lot of turbulence it was during the turbulence time, but when Tanja started that was in cruise control. So like it was ready. They had locked it in everything was fine. Everyone establish these relationships closeness sees was all there. So that like was harmless for the alliance really as opposed to when found so. Yeah. Know this theory has I'm here for this. All right. So. Christie starts to as I said, she's starting to doubt about. Doubt the plan to nominate Comey. She's, she's like, I, I have no reason to target I, I've no issue with Cammie. She is choose not a problem for me. So she goes to Tommy, she starts talking to Tommy about this. She feels like she's making this move for other people. It's other people's moves and she's, she's making them for them. And she says the only the only thing I can point to is that if I get rid of Chemi, then that's one less person I have to compete against in week three. When I when we do the whack tippety competition. Yeah. I have no idea how this works. It's I was excited to talk about because I thought, maybe you'd know a little bit more, a better feeling. But it sounds like they've split it up. So like next week. A small cross section plays the week after goes back to the people that play this week something along those lines where it's not everyone's competing for it every week. Yeah. Going into Austen's trail. So, yeah, it seems it seems as though, it's it's a certain group of people and it's already been decided they know what week they're going to play in the whack tippety competition, super strange. But I guess you should expect that from a competition that its name is actively. But yeah, it's really weird. I guess that. When it comes to the people that competed in this week's wack tippety competition. They are speculating that the people that competed one power, but they also they talked about Chemi potentially being a person that won a power. Right. So clearly Kenny competed in this week's. But then she's also gonna compete in week three theoretically. They also talked about cliff being somebody that might have a power. Personally, I tweeted this out. I feel like if somebody does have a power. I would think that cliff might actually be one of the people in contention because nobody has talked about having power with anybody else. And I think there are very few people in this house that are capable of keeping it to themselves or that would keep it themselves. Cliff is one of those people, although he has been I guess while we're doing this update talking to the cameras, and I hope that he would have told us to the cameras if he did have a power, so perhaps, not cliff, and if not cliff, then maybe somebody like, Nicole, who I feel like is keeping things closer to her chest, people without super super close allies, that they would reveal this to people like, maybe even Tommy in the sort of like Tyler position where he does have people he could tell, but he's savvy enough to not tell them so people like that I definitely would not expect somebody like Jack or even maybe Nick Nick is, is now told Bella as well that he's a therapist, so he's not exactly the. Best secret keeper, even though I was getting good vibes from him earlier in the day, I think it was mostly because I like men, Nick is giving me good vibes. It seems like he's able to keep information to himself. But that was that was during the Sam and Jack conversation where like Sam was like the A-Bomb and Jack was just like blurting out final fives. And just in contrast fantastic. Yeah, it was time where I I've been hearing Dirk junior and I see that for right now for Nick. I'm feeling good about this. And then by the end of the night, I was like, I'm a hold my brakes on this on. Wait and see how this one goats yet. So it sounds like based on the people, people are accusing having this power so cliff of Bella Chemi, Lovie, I guess, Christie is one of them's, I'm not sure assuming there's two more or three more that are within contention for it, because I don't remember seeing a list anywhere of exactly who we know, has competed for this Lovie, as another person that I think even wanted to tell somebody doesn't really have anyone to tell anybody going to listen to him. So he could he could have. And we don't even know what the competition was. We don't like who might be more like it or not. And we don't we still don't even know if it is a power. We don't know what it is. So I mean it's wack I don't know. Yeah. All right. So Christie says that she feels like she can't trust. Jack she feels like they are close, but she feels like he's pushing this agenda on her, and this is this is not just feel great about it. She, there was a conversation earlier where she was talking about the, the whole this before she talks to Tommy, she talked to another group. People were Jack was involved about, like shoot. I do. Are you are? We sure we should do this and Jack was just like we have to do this, and he was not really listening to her. And I think that started to get her thinking that, like people are putting us as like a showman's or do or something. But it feels like he's just pushing his agenda on me. I am the one influenced by him. And this is not like a mutually. Beneficial relationship, especially if I'm going to be targeted because next to him. And so she's not really feeling that and she's really starting to think that maybe she shouldn't be doing this. Tommy says, like what is what does your gut tell you is the right thing to do? And she says, pardon Catherine. That was my that was my gut reaction. That's what I want to do. But Tommy says Lowell look people are not going to trust you. If you change your plan here at the at the last minute, maybe not the best thing to do right now to rock the boat and then Cammie is going to join the conversation and sort of interrupt that bit of talk. But it's definitely not super solid at this moment. This moment in the night that, that Christie is going to go through this Comey backdoor. Yeah. No, it definitely doesn't. And I think the validity here with Christie's feelings is that she's mentioned where she thinks Jack is playing better game than her at the moment and be it's clearly because she can tell jackass poll jackets, get Jack is kind of getting what Jack wants by having Kenny go. So if she looks forward even week or two and someone decides I want to target Jack, they can't get Jack out who are they going to get off the person? They think that is in a pairing with her, which is Kristie. I didn't seal your fate. I feel your partner state that's Christie Christie will take befall there. That's not great. So I do think there's a lot of liberty in her feeling this way. And thinking about this and Catherine is who she wanted to go get rid of initially. And if he even does go through the pudding Chemi up, there's going to be a bit of time until the vote happens. Where if she decides you know what screw this? Like I wanted Katherine gone. I think it's better for me. She can. Try and maybe make that happen. There's enough moving in this others enough people that have kind of Oakland, they don't want Kenny gone that maybe a coalition could form as early as this week. I don't know if it's going to happen, maybe Tommy being this way. I mean like you know, it's the easy vote that could work but at the same time this is Kristie. This is someone who we've seen have a lot of empathy. She also lays between like not caring or like being okay with things, but then changing, he's just a human being, you know, she has her emotions, where she's talking about back during Chemi and then Kemis the one walks and consoles her as someone who is a spiritual person, Catherine Christy. She probably felt like this is kind of a sign like this is something that is clearly bothering her, and she's having a hard time with it, and I feel like the way she's been floating this out throughout the night. Is she just wants to hear someone couple people agree with her, and she will not do it? So we'll see if she gets that before the veto ceremony. Yeah. And again, I feel like if, if Bella was a little bit more like on top of. What was going on? If Mela had gone upstairs and talked to cat to Christie than I do feel like if she was even inclined to could have been the person to be like. No, maybe, right. But she didn't have that, you know. Tommy. I think probably rightfully doesn't want to rock the boat. It doesn't really matter to Tommy, either way, who goes home. And it's better for him if Christie is not pissing people off because Christie is valuable asset to him who can help bring him into things or that he can bring into two into things. So it's obviously in his best interest. And then the next people Christie is gonna talk to you are SIS and Hawley. We know that Holly again, knows Catherine from outside of the house, or at least we are pretty pretty sure about that. And so, obviously Holly has a lot of incentive to keep Katherine around. And so when Christie tells SIS and Holly, these things that she feels like she may be can't trust Jack. And maybe he doesn't want to go through this hollies line is basically because Holly doesn't like Jack either. Well, here's what we should take away from this still back door Cami, but no. In the back of our heads that Jack can't be trusted when it gets down to the, he's the first one to go. And so that was that was really what, what they what, what Holly wanted to take advantage of this situation to be like, like, okay. Okay. I hear what you're saying. How about we do what I want and not what you want. That's how about that, though. That you're not as long as we do at the eight, then it's good, you know, one for us, and then one for me. That's how it should be brick Dutch. Yeah. So that's, that's what that's what and they talked about Jack being super sketchy and trying to form final fives, and how they're probably not involved in those final FIS even though actually kind of our most of them. They just don't know. Yeah, but it's, it's very bad for Jack that word has already gotten out that he's making final fives, and people who are in who are involved in those final fives are hearing about the fact that he's making final fives before they heard that they're in the final fives. He's an idiot. He's like, like the fact of the matter is he's been talking about the lives predominantly with the dudes, and then he's just like any of the tricks are three to dummy, what am any did you talk to these people? Let them know. So yeah, they're going to hear about this. I didn't even know this guy is health sketchy. You know what I want Tarran? You know what I put out there this, my, this is what I would like we get to the vote we get to the vixen and Cami stays and thus the moa is officially borne. You flipped that would be the best thing to happen. I feel like Jack had. So a has, I'm not gonna say hat because it's still. He has a lot of potential. He has a lot of poll, but I do feel like he's letting it slip through his fingers by being messy like this. So we could see this is definitely backfiring on him right now. And people are definitely weary of him. They still kind of want to stick it out with him because of the fact that they've got this eight you know, it's like when you have something that you think could get you through the next four weeks. Get you to jury. Why make that a mess that up why break it down? So, for right now, it's like a bit of a bit of a fight. But the more and more this guy comes out and tries to do things and tries to take control or do more than he needs to the more and more people are going to be reluctant, because they're like, well, I don't want to get to the end with this guy. He's also copies, if he has all the poll, he's also all the police is going to be in the leaderboard for winning. So the more he does all this stuff, it's gonna end badly. Yes, I personally feel that it's probably too late to save coming from the. Back door that if it was going to happen it needed to happen last night. The veto ceremony is probably. Too soon. I mean I don't think it's today but it'll probably be tomorrow. I always get confused about the two weeks. But I imagine that it's going to be tomorrow. I don't know if if one day is enough after the talk last night to unlock this from happening. It is possible. But, but I do feel like hope is not lost. Even if it does go through because, you know, it then depends on how can we reacts to being back doored if Chemi is like screw you Kristie? I hate you. I'm gunning for you. The nothing can be done. But if Chemi is like, why, why did this happen? And Christie doesn't really have much of an answer and breakdown down like because Jack wanted to then it can be like don't play his game. Like I an ally for you. I do feel like they could scrape some votes together. Again, if Bella had any game sense, she would want to keep coming around. If Bella wants to keep coming around. Then they could maybe get Nick on board. If Nick is on board, he could bring people like Sam onboard. He might even be able to convince somebody like, Jack, but who knows? And then, of course, with Christy, you could probably get Tommy who probably doesn't care much either way, you know. So there are a lot of votes on the table that could be rallied to the cause of Chemi, even if she is put on the block. So I'm hoping that we do have we have some fight left in us this week. Yeah. I feel like at the very least whether we have the fight or not, we're gonna see we're going to see some kind of 'bout go on. We're going to see some kind of movements go on because like you said, as long as Cammy doesn't do that doesn't like doesn't get really angry with Christie and kind of comes what happened last night when Chemi comes in and consoles Christie Christie fuel so much worse about what she's about to do. You know, that's how it's going to be. So if it's going to be more of that approach. That's good. The on the other hand, you've got Katherine saying stuff like like. Yeah, no. I think I'm finding I don't wanna go. You know, I also miss my friends like Kathryn kinda just keep spinning her wheels like that. And saying stuff like that it could easily end up having football than why am I going to keep this person? It doesn't want to be here. So it's not all done. We'll just have to see how this goes, it is exciting. I don't think it's anything sentenced on here. So at the very least, I think we're going to have a fun couple days of right now before these this victim. Yeah, I mean for what it's worth, because we'll talk about this next Nick and Bella are sorry, but just before we get there Kristie SIS Holly. They'd also talk about making a four. With Tommy, I think so. That's happening to a lot of fours and fives. Eights sixes and threes. But then, so Nick and Bella have a long conversation. Bella is having. Trouble emotionally in house, as she talked a lot about her father, and, and some other things. And so he was sort of comforting her being her therapist to something. And he let her know that he actually is their best. And so they're getting closer again. Like this is this is a potential showman's here, naked talk about how he also kind of likes SIS, but not sure if that's reciprocated. And so on and so forth. But, but this is a potential thing here. So. Keep on the lookout for that. But, but again so, so with Nick being so close to Bella. He has already talked about how he likes Chemi, and he has no reason to take out himself for as much as it would been benefit Bella to keep coming around. It also kind of benefits Nick to keep. Cami around, because Chemi by extension can be a number for him. Whereas Catherine is certainly not so. Another. Another piece on the puzzle there, in terms of this potential vote. Yeah. And it kind of goes back to what you mentioned about the fact that everyone kinda see Jackson with Catherine. No one sees Catherine benefiting their game really amongst these people. So if they all kind of, like, come decide, you know what me like she, like she liked Cammie? I'm good. With all reason for me to go. We could see the shift in the tide there. It could really happen. And I do think that this Nick and Bella pairing is a dangerous one. I think this is gonna this could be power alliance. Power pairing. We just got to see how it plays out, and how they situate themselves within the house with this fluidity of the alliances going on right now. But I do think these, these together could be a big big thing in the game. Yes. And I'll say right now I feel like if Holly and. Katherine, did not know each other from outside of the house. I think Katherine might already be like the vote might have already gone. Like, yeah, I really I think that Holly was instrumental and keeping Christie on track with back door and Chemi. And she doesn't even seem to, like, particularly love Katherine, like I think that without that outside connection and pre pre game planning Kali would have been pretty fine with just letting Catherine go there and just jumping on board with Christy and Tommy, so. I think Katherine is already sort of hanging on by a thread, and that thread is Holly, and we'll have to see if that threat is strong enough to keep her around for the next six days, five days. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It's on Wednesday yet. So I'm, I'm so glad we're going to go back to Thursday after next week. Yeah. All right. So that's what we have for you today, unless there's anything else. Let's see. So nothing like killer and important just a couple of bits and pieces that I saw throughout number one, Sam didn't know Dino Han's name and called her. Yvonne, I think so. Like no is Deena. No, no Tina. Yeah. I really didn't know who was on that season. So that was great. There is a clip floating around of Nick talking smack about Matt, again, cereal, boy, Matt, calling him garbage and then talking smack about raising. So that's the thing that's going on who was it. I think Kristie called Angela evil f an evil so nothing. So the house gets ready having fun, giving their commentary and takes pass houseguests. So which, you know, is going to be drama city. So those are fun. Always Nick, our Twitter, embodiment person of the season because it was rockstar last year. But now we've got Nick who's like trashing the big brother nineteen contestants. That's Twitter loves to do that. He's show Manson Bella who's like everybody's favorite person in probably wishes. They could show Mance. I feel like maybe he's on track to be our Twitter embodiment I think right now he's, he's, he's the front runner. And then I think the dark horse here is Nicole. Well, I think Nicole is someone who could take over there certainly got that young rockstar kind of thing going so we could see Nicole take it away right now, kind of those look like Nicholson, before front shading the ones we, we shade and feeling things we feel so we'll see if he keeps going, we'll find out and then there was another thing. Oh, yeah. No just the put a cap on it. Okay. So we started with let's finish with OB. So yes, everybody, it's been rough watching this kind of go down not great still optimistic though. They can still can still come back from it. I think Lovie has thick skin. I think he's going to do fine. He shouldn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense, but this happens, and it's important to remember that we're here to have fun. Hopefully it does not get worse from here. Sincerely, hope hopefully this is just first week. And then we move on and everything's hunky Dory. Everything's nice. Everything's rainbows. I hope so fingers crossed. Much left, everybody. Love and positivity everybody. Yes. All right. Thank you, everyone for joining us, you can find me on Twitter at Armstrong, Taryn. You can find at ISM, you can find me on twitch twitch dot TV slash Taryn. Armstrong, you wanna hang out there? We've got some some great stuff coming coming your way. Hopefully, we've got of course the Sunday night recap will be. We'll be coming up soon. Monday night. We will have the first round table of the season that should be fun. And then Tuesday and Wednesday, so weird schedule but on top of it. And of course, I'll be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update on everything that happened today on the live feeds Liana is returning for the season but not yet. She's still choose traveling. I think for the first two we, she's got a conference. She's going to we'll be back promises have been made, and she will uphold those promises and I believe, so. Noli on tomorrow. But soon soon, the honest outer days will be back. Yeah. All right. Thank you guys so much for joining us today. We'll see next time.

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Big Brother 21 FINALE Recap

Rob Has a Podcast

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Big Brother 21 FINALE Recap

"From Mine Mansion it's rob has a podcast and now here's The guy who is not rob sister Hino. I am a brand log on. Hello everybody and welcome to our age. AP's continuing coverage of Big Brother Twenty one. We are here to talk about the Big Brother Twenty one finale and obviously I am not Rob Suster Nino Robertson and tearing Armstrong are in the backyard as we speak of big brother twenty-one house they are getting ready to ask your questions to the House guests but that is not going to stop us from having our fund tonight. I rot three fantastic to talk about this a little bit snooze worthy finale. If if I'm being honest I you know her from my adventures on Rupa's drag race and you love her and I love her. She was my team for so you think you can podcast and she's still my number. One one is Leona Boris. Everybody who are you and thank you for bringing back that memory honestly Jackson. Finding out that America thinks that he could be racist and coming out to confetti looking just so incredibly upset actually makes this when palatable so I'm here and ready to talk about everything I thought odd spirits noticeably improved when that happened by the way when the winner was announced was the best moment of the episode for me and not because Jackson was winning. Let me just just tell you that also with tonight's looking absolutely fricking stunning. I must say is cursing said what Kirsten again is from candidate Intersex. What's up girl. I really thought you were. GonNa say looking stunning Matt Liguori but hello aircrew. I'm so happy that Nicole is America's favorite and like you know what got a boy wanted confetti and I guess he probably should have wished for a little bit more because that rags that is exactly what happened see I had this genie bottle and we've been talking about all the time that wishes. Don't come out the way that you want to you have to wish for exactly what you want and the boy wanted Confetti. He got confetti but he's got a whole lot more to talk about that. Also is Matt Liguori not area. You great so happy to be here. It was crazy season and not the ending that we wanted but our girls walked away with some money and I'm so excited for that. I'm so happy she's out of that house and free to go be with some actual good people her family. I'm so happy for Nicole tonight and that's the main storyline that I'm running with so happy to be here. Thank you I. That's one of the main storylines that I know I'm running with. I do notice some people in chat asking about the backyard interviews the backyard interviews are not live. We we do not have that capability yet so they will be uploaded. After this podcast odd cast throughout the night I know Scott saint-pierre is going to be working hard on it all night and you should see most of them live by sometime tomorrow. Check those out when you can as I said previously if you have questions Scott Saint Saint Pierre is monitoring social media Hashtag. RH AP and you can ask US whatever you want we will tackle it but I have to go with the overarching arching us from tonight. The big lead Jackson does indeed when big brother six votes to three Matt's. I know you were talking about Nicole. Is your favorite storyline align tonight but we have to talk about the winners. So what do you think how did he do it. Jackson was such a such a interesting story story the way that he won the game by winning so many competitions by being the one that was initially kind of pushed aside from his alliance and then ends up you know making his own new alliance with Nicole and cliff which obviously saved him in the one round the game that he wasn't safe ends up bringing him all the way to the end of the game where he has a chance to win himself to the end. It's not something that I wanted to see happen. It's not something a lot of people wanted to see ended up happening and honestly. I don't have a whole lot of praise for him. I think think that you guys have talked about it. Terrence talked a lot about about how the competitions kind of more physical than in previous years and that's kind of frustrating because obviously Jackson was the front runner and all of those competitions at the end of the day it does seem like all of the crying that we did for the past couple of years about how the stronger anger players should be the winner came back to maybe a little bit this year because the person who the jury perceived as the stronger player is the one who they ended up giving the votes to and and this was the one season where I thought maybe we shouldn't think like that. Maybe we should have the person who had the underrated game walk out victorious and I thought that he did a really good job tonight right but it seemed I really feel like the jury was determined to prove that look. We're going to get it right this season. We're GONNA vote. You know emotions aside. Tommy and Christie were both like we're. We're voting for the stronger player and this is where we ended up so yeah. Mickey is our winner. I think that that was something that was apparent it from Jerry Roundtable and I know that we hear it a lot like Oh. It's my head versus my heart but I really think that this is the season where the jury felt like. We need to reward the person who we think played the best game regardless of some of the other events that happened and that being said the people that Jackson was truly agree just to in the pre jury so it's a little it's easier when you were the direct target of some of his microaggressions or macro aggressions as it were to reward him the half a million dollars although we did see three votes go towards holly which is a direct result of him being kind of a jerk and by kind of a jerk. I mean a lot of a jerk and so I'm actually surprised by the result tonight. I think there were a lot invest. That sort of felt like this is the outcome that we're GonNa see and I think the jury roundtable plus what we've seen previously kind of all makes sense all come together to to give us this final result Kirsten. I have to say though that between Leon. I feel like there's selling Mickey a little bit short here I am. I maybe it's just me but I feel like that. He really did do a good job of navigating gaining big brother especially when you look at the people that he took out insists and Jessica to people as we talked about on the round table a couple times removing pieces from the Jingle single board that didn't upset the balance too much I mean he he wasn't safe the entire time and yet he still managed to make it to the end. I feel like that that has to be at least given do yeah definitely there's some things that were good and getting rid of people that aren't going to make yourself more of a target definitely a valid strategy but I mean I'm happy I don't like. I don't think that he was great and I think that from Cliffs First Jury Question About Jury Management Jackson's answer was very very clear that he does not know what that is like. He literally did not understand the question and that's a problem for me personally. So as much as it's like yeah he did make some really brilliant moves. There's just so many negatives that I find it hard to be like the best player one because but I think I think I think that's something where separating the personal things that he did but aside and then looking at the actual game play modes because I will use the move that he made at the final five as for for me the most clear example of his grasp on the game and the way that he learned to turn a social situation from something that was not trending in his favor completely absolutely force it into something that gave him what he wanted. I mean I am extremely impressed by that. Move and I know it's one move out of ninety nine days. Okay you have to play the rest the time and if he's going to be a jerk the rest time I understand why it can be hard to award the half million dollars to somebody who played like that but I mean I'm kind of with Brian here like I am impressed impressed with some of the things that I saw with Jackson. You are able to sort of pull that apart from him as a person into. I probably didn't convey that very well but I I'm with both of you one that I think that his his moves to take out those people he did on his h while it looks on paper like you only took out jess and says exactly what breakfast those those were two pieces that kept the bigger players in the house to be going after each other and of course you know holly and Jackson were still such a big target but by having Christy and Tommy still in the game when they were both such big threats for a for big brother in general but just the two of them like being such a tight duo with Tommy kept taking Christie off the block. It was very very clear that they were keeping them in the house for a reason they they were taking pieces away from them when they took us out that did you know that did the job without actually taking a shot at the other bigger players so. I thought that was great. my only thing is i. I guess I don't know I didn't even know maybe I'm trying to say that. Holly also deserved it just as much I I was having a little bit of a debate with some of my friends during the jury portion when they were pleading their cases I felt holly did really well and then a lot of people thought that holly didn't do so said Oh well. I thought that Holly Played The game from the position. She said she played it and she was kind of behind the scenes and I thought that she played it more effectively then maybe we have been giving her credit for lately in the way that you are ticketed it during that jury speech. I thought was great so just it seemed like in more more than in the previous years when you had tyler and Paul I felt like both of these to play deserving games. Obviously Jackson's was much more in your face game but I felt like holly could have gotten the the votes as well. Yeah I had to say as I said at the beginning of show I here's the thing I felt like it was newsworthy finale until we got to the pre jurors and I feel Philip part of the decision was to start with the roundtable a little bit misguided because there wasn't a ton of energy or much passion. I thought like coming from the roundtable Kirsten. I felt oh like that. They were here's what roundtable was telling me. That holly probably had no chance Jackson was probably GonNa win and they would probably give Nicole if she got there but we knew she probably wasn't is going to get there. Is that what you were getting. Did you enjoy at war with Dr. Will Yeah I thought that that was that was definitely the vibe also so much of it being driven by like on a lease and in her thoughts on people make really hard to be connected to it because she's confused as she said several times and so it's like well. We're not confused used about this so having explained to her like she's five is not all that entertaining. I'm Jack Calling Dr will dock and bud is offensive to me. You really don't like that. Jack Jack think you are who you are exactly Leon. I have to say that my favorite part of the roundtable table was cat when the whole season and she's like I'm not a bottom feeder. I'm not Peter I that was the whole thing that will stop the bottom feeders from moving forward because cat would not recognize this year was a bottom feeder and then she was in the main alliance cat says Hollywood after big targets Mickey went after the bottom feeders and pointedly looking at assists and Jessica with camera shots include. I was living for that moment and I know the cat was too yeah very sassy very much like so if if you get it which justice is probably did not but implying that they were the bottom feeders. I thought that it was fun to see some of the interpersonal dynamics between them. Although yeah I thought overall it was pretty lacklustre again like Kirsten. My favorite part was just being confused saying I'm confused by her gameplay. I'm confused. Okay okay says what's new. To what kind of game does this thing. She played thank you. I'm sorry rare. She gets like Oh Holly. Just was was with Jackson like I don't know what kind of game that is. I'm sorry what did you do chicken costume okay. She was shaking costume and I felt like Nick. It did Kinda backhander a little bit with which was Hollywood at least one to h h is what did you win. What did you do girl. I felt like that's what he was saying there. I have to say okay. That's the roundtable was this news but but part two of h competition was even snooze easier. I WANNA point out one bit of Fake News as I felt like we got from the finale tonight. Where Holly sorry you don't have a soundboard here for you. Is the holly directly saying in the diary room. I've never been rock climbing before. I don't know what that is probably should have done that before. I got here and I'm going to her. INSTAGRAM Holly Allen in Malibu California hobbies hobbies include spontaneously climbing things with her on a rockwall so girl. I'm not buying that and I feel like we need a recount on that one man she's trying to hide her capabilities abilities from us all season long and she just continued that into the diary room so. I don't know what you're expecting from her but she's playing the game. I told it really was though but I was so disappointed with parczew because you know we talked about this before I felt like the questions were super easy. It was mainly physical tearing and I totally really bemoaning the fact that there was nothing that really resembled anything that it was really difficult in either part for Vito Part to H. O. H. And I was really bummed about about Leon I it was like a whole school big brother. I feel like it's going away and being replaced with all of these physical competitions where yeah it's mental and the producers can argue. It's mental until so because come home but you and I watch big brother. We know the if we know the answers to some of those things you. We know that they are not that hard. Come on yeah and I mean I think you can also say the the same thing about part one of the competition's like Oh. It's not an endurance competition. You know because they have to do a puzzle. It's like okay yeah sure they have to attend second puzzle and then go run across you know like chasm for twenty five rounds or whatever league no it's ultimately it's a physical competition and I feel like this was sold the same way. Oh sure it's day is calm because they have to then go up and then the day cop okay. It's mental today's Cobb memorization when really yeah it ultimately seems come down to who could climb the rockwall faster your it wasn't just that this was pointed out to me on twitter that they're only two instances of non comp non eviction events that were on that rockwall while you know the houseguests know everything about what happened what day and who was evicted by a vote of what the what and who played veto and all that they don't remember necessarily as what day the clowns announce came in you saw the both of them had problems with that there needed to be more things like that on the wall like the day that the alien came in and Berated Jack things like that the JV Jackson was blowing was blown up with the alien alien doctor when it kept floating on him all of that kind of stuff. I felt like would play really well in a competition like that because they don't don't necessarily remember stuff that they weren't personally involved in are paying attention to on the other hand. It seems like big brother kind of want stuff like this where the more physical person wins Kirsten. I and I'm not really happy with it. I can't imagine terrorists you. I know we were both bitch about that but just revealed that sophomore tonight yeah. I'm sure Taryn is absolutely seething thing and I'm not happy about it either. I feel like yes being you know. Physically fit is part of big brother and there are always going to be some physical competitions but what I find most compelling when it's like. How badly do you want it or you know. How hard have you worked to get this. Not what. How many weights have you lifted. How fast can you run a mile. How much rock climbing have you done. I just like I understand that those competitions maybe are a little bit more visually appealing but they're just empty and meaningless as far as I'm concerned and not the prevailing opinion but I don't know for me. It's way more visually appealing to see someone and cut their hair off like I want to see someone. Shave their damn head. I think it's actually really interesting because if you think now let's say this. This is a trend moving forward the sort of Adage of Oh. We have to get out. The physical threats well. Whatever it's the later cops big brother aren't physical well now. What if they are physical so now that strategy to get out the stronger physical players actually might be relevant next season? We're GONNA like strong. Physical Player pissed off because Jackson ruin. Did that woke muscle amazing human. They're GONNA go home without getting this year. Everyone loved Nick and Jack when they walked in the house awesome then it was like that. I like to stay for the record that I did not like nick from the start but I'm pretty sure I have tweets. Are I was like I don't get it guys. This season receipts on Nick but Jack Happy full so on the topic of the final three comes before we too far away from it. Part three was pretty bad too I was it's getting dark three okay well. Maybe you're welcome. I guess for leading right into it was those questions were terrible. There was one question that I wrote down that I thought was good. The fact that they included a memory walk question which was also along the same line of my criticism here that it was just so easy that each one of these questions by the time they were done answering the questions isn't the by asking the questions both Mickey and Holly had the answer's locked and they weren't even like second guessing at thinking about it. They weren't you know debating it in their head. They have the they have the answers. They knew that they were waiting. Julie Chen to come in and say what she always says when it starts happening which is please wait for me to say answers. Here's please before you reveal your answers because he looked really terrible on television. No Yeah I agree with that when it's very clearly that easy when you have people that especially Jackson standing back folding his arms being like Oh. I already got this on lock. I mean it's not really that intense although it was intense intense but it wasn't got took a nap. It looks so calm. I know they spend all that much time making some glancing setup and they're not doc and enjoy it like they both got every single question correct except for holly misreading one of them. She thought that the one about six said that was not there for consist. Wasn't there for Zing bus. She thought it said that this was their freezing. Bot and she must read it other than that. Both of them got every single question correct that that tells you something. Those questions were way too easy. I I don't know why they are how they expected either of that like maybe they wanted it to go down to tiebreaker. I'm not sure but they were just really bad. I I have to say maybe they wanted to go down to a tiebreaker because that allows them to quantify it from a TV standpoint. It's live television. They want to know exactly how long something's GonNa the last. We probably haven't calculated out. This is six minutes and thirty seconds that this is GonNa last if we go to a tiebreaker if we don't it's GonNa be seven minutes thirty seconds something like that but to me. I'm I'm with Matt Questions. Were really easy and the house gets. You know you're stuck in the house all day. You have nothing to do but think about questions like this who was a victim of what day in who played and what veto competition and how many times they played in the competition and anything like that. I felt like that again if they would ask more non comp non eviction questions but what was happening what day in your what what day what happens things like that. I felt like that would have been played. Better on on television. Overall would have given us a more interesting result bolt yeah I actually I appreciate the fact that they're asking questions that have to do with events that happened in the game. That's what I appreciate appreciate but like I think they're saying I would rather than be a little bit more difficult and about things that maybe didn't directly relate to them or weren't necessarily like exactly game related like some funny stupid stuff to you know what Data Jackson get his watermelon smash you know like in the punishment right like that's something that I would rather have more fun but but in terms of the actual format of the final three I think I like these types of questions more yeah I would. I would agree with that although I don't know tearing mixes point in the Round Table that the questions in the pass up until big brother nineteen which Josh Paul in part three of the HBO competition because it was. What did this jury member say. How does this jury member feel that kind of thing things that are not easy for people to necessarily answer gives us a more interesting result and I went. I think I was like the same person for nineteen the and seasons who I was like I hate part three because you can't necessarily study for it and win it but then when I saw Kevin Martin do what he did him to grill a candidate and now I see what they're doing on big brother twenty twenty one getting literally everything right. It's really not fun to watch and I go back to the old way and I think Taryn. The robot probably had it right the first time when you the final there is an element to to being the winner of the season where if you don't win that competition you have to have convinced the other two people that you're the best person to sit next to you so in a way you know you can't. I mean nobody should be relying on themselves winning to get there. Obviously that's the most ideal path to be the one who who wins that finally gets to pick where you sit next to but you need to have the opportunity where both people are. GonNa take you if you can't take yourself and if you're not able to do that you're not. GonNa win the game a lot. The players have gone down that way. I mean go look at Vanessa did not win. The game lost. I didn't get to the final two. It happens and it's annoying. What happens because you want to see that person rewarded but that's the game and I think I'm I'm with you that I should go back to that kind of competition yeah so Carson we have Mickey win eight two seven three any chance that we had holly evicting Jackson and taking Nicole with her to the final was totally obliterated in that moment when she missed her out the question. I was bitter about it. I don't think she would have did Mickey Anyway. Although she should've based on the results that we saw after but I thought it was not even good television then and when holly and coal we're giving their speeches Nicole I don lover. Maybe there's no chance he's GonNa victory there but I felt like she really said nothing in that final three speech which she really didn't give Jackson reasons to keep her except for saying. I hope let is thicker than water. Whatever that means. I might say something about five hundred thousand dollars. That would be something good to say yeah. I feel like it's it's the point where that decision is made earlier like there's not that much that you can say in that thirty seconds. That's GonNa make that much of a difference. I do think it's a good opportunity to hammer home the points that you've been making all week and it would have been nice to see more than that but I just. I don't think that there was a chance that he was not not gonNA take. I will say that I'm glad big. Brother didn't give us too much. Hope where they Nicole lost part to. She's crying. That's that's terrible to watch. We got one segment of her talking to holly on a where it was like you know. Here's the reasons why you might WanNa take me. If you're sitting next to Jackson. It's probably going to to be looked at as he drove the bus and you're writing behind you. You really want that. You could take me. I was in favor of coal really throwing Jackson under the bus all week league long. I don't really feel like she ever did exactly what I wanted her to say. I wanted to say something more about women empowerment. How much of a baller Hollywood look like by evicting Jackson? How the the jury would literally just down her hand or the money because they are also frustrated with Jackson he was the mover and shaker of the season but Nicole never did that in bus she was evicted eh up at the final three and it was it was bittersweet to watch yeah actually in terms of pacing of the episode they were on a clip which I really appreciate it because they you're obviously trying to get through everything and so I think part of that was just showing this brief snippet of like you know look. This is what you expect this to happen. It's probably not going to happen so we're not going to spend a lotta time time doing it. Although yeah Nicole really needed to hammer home to holly this whole concept of that holly will lose if she is next to Jackson going to happen. I mean holly needs to send it and get rid of Jackson and we didn't get to see that and that's why probably the show didn't really talk about it all that much so yeah. I go ahead man. I've been as I've also been disappointed in the coals game. Play the past week slash two weeks. It seems pretty clear to me that after she realized the mistake that was made in evicting Tommy she kind of just lost all all motivation. She lost hope but she she realized that she had made the wrong choice and she kind of just looked defeated from there on out. She didn't seem like she was. She had the the drive to keep going into. Make make a push for the end. It was kind of like all right if we win the cup. It's like that's when her cliff made that decision. They said we know we need to win. Competitions were not gonNA beat Jackson and Tommy so we have to to be competitions and b both of them so I think at a certain point they just kind of saw the game only winning competitions obviously many other ways that you can get yourself to the end by talking to people oh by talking to holly and making those points which yes she really should have been making all week and saying holly. They're voting for Jackson. Every single person who left the House has said Jackson is a strong strong player. Jackson deserves to win. Christie left the house saying Jackson's got this. It's been pretty clear that Jackson is a strong player and if you want any chance of winning I know how much you love about well how much you love him. You can not sit next him in the final till we probably have an equal chance maybe or maybe you have a better chance than I do but you cannot be Jackson. You have to take me point blank period. It has to be that way and she didn't say it that way she didn't she didn't lay it down. She just said no hard feelings if you don't but I think that you should do this and that's not good enough at this point. I think it kind of goes back to what happened earlier in the during next. Hoa Age like Nicole had been doing a lot socially unkind of you know being a little bit more active behind the scenes and when she she was kind of caught and called out she kind of faded back for a while before she was able to get it back together and then start really making moves again on and it's not that she was doing nothing during that time she just like she had touched the hot stove unburdened. She didn't want to touch it again. I feel like a she's a very reactive person and so when she kind of had that that feeling of failure when Tommy went when cliff went I think it takes a long time to recover from that and so she just needed a little bit more time before she would have been able to really make those compelling arguments that way like I think she has in her but she seems at least from what I've seen the type where if something goes very wrong it takes just more time to kind of get back into it and it's something that I think she'll learn from and I. I think I tweeted about this. I think if there's any locked from the season to come back Nicole. We'll be back on the future season big brother. She's not getting taken by MTV. She's not the challenge type. They are next season or whatever it is. Nicole will be back on big brother Sunday. They saw the reaction to her. They need to get her back in the house and I think when Nicole sees how the rest of this game played out has a lot more time to think about it. I think she has the capabilities that next time she'll know. I have to go in for the kill well. I have to play pretty similar to how I played. Last time it worked for me. I got far with social game that I had but in the end I need to go for the kill and I think she can do it next time. It's it's like she needed to do the Kellyn from survivor where she she needed to trust your gut because she went with cliff cliff gut and really got her into trouble in the end but then man we got to see something really cool where even though it's bittersweet to watch. Nicole at the final three. She walked out she gave Julie. We Hug. She started talking to Julie. She was all composed then she sees her mom in the audience and I don't know about you but my heart right literally broke. I was just I was so happy for her but yet my heart was breaking for her and it was it was really good TV. That's it's just like raw television. Just just I really miss she. You know she just looked in the audience in that emotion just every single person that was watching the shelter yeah. I also like unaware. She was talking about how She Dashi came in as a butterfly but really she came like a caterpillar and eventually was like the butterfly obviously fast forward to forty five minutes later when Julie's suit. You are the butterfly girl yeah. That was so incredibly sweet. It was such a nice full circle moment. I think that that entire interview is just really horrible well. It's very clear why Nicole One F. P. I think that you can say oh well. The May set her up to be particular way or she was the underdog but there's such a good heart there and so well. I think that that this interview is just indicative of why she deserved winning America's. They were player. She did exactly so we get to the final two and as has I tweeted out if if he didn't fight for this money I was going to be in the vale tonight I really was I needed to see her fight for the money. I was glad to see Kirsten that she did fight for the money and I don't know about you and I know you don't WanNa guys. Don't want to give a lot of credit. That's fine but I thought the best thing he did. Tonight was when holly was giving her answers. He didn't look Pissy Hissy. He didn't look mad. He wasn't condescending to her because we've seen that in the past every time Josh even opened his mouth on nineteen. Paul was like shaking his head and ranting ranting and stamping his feet furiously but on tonight I saw Jackson pretty composed and smiling while he was giving her answers while she was giving the answers he was doing a good job of that but then you would see as it was cutting to commercial he had his jaw was just clenched like maybe on smiling so how much is bearing his teeth you know and I think that I didn't do a good job in her answer. She knew that she had to say a lot in a short period of time and she was trying to get those words permanent out and I felt her for that. I think that she did a good job and I personally. I don't think Jackson did a great job answering the questions that were asked so I kind of like maybe Holly Scott this. I don't know I felt like you did a good job of answering the questions as a politician he didn't donate. He didn't answer the questions that were asked. He was asked about jury management. He talked about day forty four kristen. How does that have anything to do with jury. Manage was Dave forty-four well. What was that about. It would have been nicer to be like I noticed days forty four that I was at the bottom of my alliance and I knew I would have to win. You guys over if if I wanted your votes in the end I knew I had to get rid of you. Even though I worked with you and I you know something along those lines you know talking about what he had to do to get their votes even though he knew he had to get rid of them after that point but no all it is your mom a guy tell the truth and I was loyal when I didn't have to be and and I was honest when I didn't WanNa be yeah. I am Great Alabama Guy. That's his basis for winning and it's like well openness that he owned kind of more of what he did. Yeah I felt like Liana. He owns enough though with clip because I feel like clip was ready to vote against Jackson if he needed to if Jackson didn't give him what he wanted but Jackson at least did say I am from from my perspective did pretty well. Jackson did pretty well in the in the questioning he was quick to answer. He didn't stumble. Holly had a couple of awkward pauses. That meter seem a little bit not as respected as a game player. Jackson was totally serious the entire time. I felt like he did a pretty good job overall about making sure that he was viewed positively by the jury yeah. I actually thought that Jackson's answer to the first question I know. You can probably speak like oh did. He actually talk about Jerry Management. I don't think that matters satyrs because I think that first question was really about owning the game that you played but I think Jackson did a really great job saying look I. This was game for me. You know there were maybe. ABC's stumbles about the whole loyalty thing but I mean at least he was saying that he was playing the game. He lied when he had to whatever Blah Blah Blah so. I think that that answer was really good. What I did did not like was the question about the women on the jury feel that you're being condescending and then him like well. I'm an intense person. Everything I do one hundred in ten percent which in the back of my head. I'm like okay so including the sexism right got it you do that also one hundred ten percent. That's Kirsten. You're a woman a why was this question being asked by Tommy. Can you say about women for women to Jackson about his treatment of women and Tommy is asking a question because I feel like Blake who it's hard to face Outta here as we move into the audio version Zhanna Kirsten Kristen has a cat and the cat decided to decided to start cleaning itself that very moment giving her answer and on television anyway so I'm trying to have Abbas serious topic and Mike had over here is being inappropriate anyway so I think that probably a part of that is like part of being a woman in this world is is that a lot of the times you're facing behavior that you would not otherwise phase. If you are a man behavior that you don't want to deal with unwelcome behavior and a lot of the time when you confront that oftentimes you're GonNa get a good response because guess what you're going to get called a horrible names and it happens literally every day all of the time to I guarantee you. If you ask a woman in your life they've encountered unwelcome behavior and it's it can be uncomfortable to confront that and so you no Tommy at least you're standing up saying something and so I can't get too mad that at least somebody stood up and was commenting on it and bringing it up and that's what I would ask any man and to do is when you are hearing about unwelcome behavior that a woman is facing that you say something but yeah it would be nice if like cat heads at it but I mean like the decision that we're going to give this question to Tom. Yeah that was probably not Thomas decision to like this unrelated but they were like okay. Everyone has three questions that you decided on. Oh this is why they're giving us four-time three questions and get such a better during questioning and then they call us one. Oh where did the three. It comes from the three questions collectively you for each of the final two. That's what they were trying to save and do a very good job of. I was upset because I had like a brief moment of hope that they were actually going to do a slightly better to hop on questioning. This goes back to what I was saying just about. How if this was like if this was last season if this was the season before Jackson loses is this Jerry vote six to three because those those superfan votes the Christie. Tommy and cliff votes were if this wasn't this exact season coming off of the past two do they. They very clearly made it seem like we we understand the game play but we don't want to vote for him but to the side and we have to vote for him because because we have to fix big brother right now that's what their intent was now. Let me ask you the are you mad about that and it seems like you're mad about that because I'm like I'm a timberlake. Here's the thing I I know. It's generally a horrible person but I'm glad Jackson won the game. I he played the better game. It was certainly the more aggressive game and I feel like that. He look what he did. At the the final five cannot be overstated. I know that people don't WanNa. Give him credit for it but it was pretty amazing to watch the but just the thought process to follow Tommy into the have not room when he saw him on the screen they he knew he was going there to talk to clip Nicole. He listened in on it. He wove that information into his live what he said. Tommy said to him and he stuck to his story like glue and I know some people out there. Were like Lascaux Rozan saying well. You obviously clinical should've discerned that the Mickey was the one line because he was the one who was absolute about his story and Tommy was more nuance but in the Big Brother House nuance doesn't go a long way. Sometimes I felt like the black and white story was the better one and that's where oh he did his best work and I. I feel like that has to be commended. So are you matt that he won or you just kind of wanted to bitter jury result for Shits and giggles no. I don't have a good answer for that. I think I met that he won but I'm also like I understand why he won. I I'm not doubting anything about why he won. I just feel like the way that the game has been evolving is that the juries are are taking their emotions into account a lot more often lately and that just feels like we're big. Brother is Ben obviously if this is a result that this jury result is going back to the way where they don't take take their emotions so much into account people. A lot of people are going to appreciate that because that's where they want. The jury vote juries to be voting so I'm like this isn't. I don't think this has to do with the personal opinion. I'm just pointing out that I thought the Jackson didn't do so well with jury questioning. I think that the answers that he gave and the reaction that he had to some of the things like when Tommy asking that question he was just like I was. I was just being myself and I just you know being intense and that's who I am like that kind of answer wasn't GonNa fly last year so I'm just I guess my point is just that. I don't think that he did so well. I think that he really just kind of one because they these jurors were were had a point to prove Liana. Are you with with me in terms of you're glad Jackson one in terms of at least it wasn't holly because if with Jackson is a win is going to be Holly Allen Twenty Four Wyoming Wins Big Brother and I am not as surly here for that. She likes helping makes fun of her obvious interesting. These the jury felt like they had a point to approve because if the point to prove is to award the game to the person who played the best. I'm actually kind of okay with that. We're going to appreciate appreciate that the fact that they're going back to that way voting and like I said I don't know which way I land on that right now. I I get both sides. Yeah I mean I think it's absolutely hard to process especially actually when someone that you don't like you don't appreciate their behavior you don't respect their behavior and you absolutely don't WanNa see them rewarded for that behavior yet at the same time when you take a look at the moves is that Jackson made throughout the game like well compared to Holly. I know that she tried to answer her jury questions by saying she played a different game shook bigger targets. She played an independent independent Games Jackson. I mean if you really put all the cards on the table. I still feel like Jackson played the better game and so there is a part of me that feels okay with him winning because of that yeah I hear Ya I was in Hollywood but the one thing that I feel like that. She didn't get enough credit important. She really never remembered was on day forty four when she lied because that was her moment in the sun she she didn't do anything win. At the final five when Jackson was she was basically they're holding her hands to her face not even talking to Tommy during that house meaning but on day forty four. She was confronted directly. Do you know cats. We think you know cat you know her and she was like no. I don't even know where this came from. This is crazy. Talk like what are you guys talking about. I've never heard that before and I never heard of brought that up and I would have liked to see her. Bring that up a little bit Leon or Carson. Whichever one of you wants to take it I felt like that? She did herself disservice by not talking more about the time that she did lie effectively in the game because because I feel like that those votes were gettable if she gave them a reason to both for her yeah. It's almost like she doesn't realize parts of her game that she could have magnified to convince the jury like she doesn't know which parts of the most valuable and not I think is the main problem there yeah. I think she had a hard time conceiving okay. What is my game. Ah I know I WANNA make it distinct from Jackson. But what exactly does that mean anything that that was pretty evident in the her answers to the jury questions I mean I'm sure she was nervous. Completely understandable Santa Ball but at the same time I think you have to come in with a super cohesive narrative that will resonate with the jury and just felt like she didn't quite have that down. I think she she needed a cleaner speech cleaner. I felt like she needed to throw Jackson under the bus. I felt like she needed to really hammer home. The fact that you know I like even though you guys look it looks like he was the one driving the bus and I was the one with the rains behind him. I'm like really wanted her to drag immoral and be like you you know I used it as a shield in front of me because I knew I needed him to get myself here. Look what I did. I needed it to be a simpler story for the jury to buy but I have to tell you once got to the point in time where they're putting in the keys in the box. I was like Jackson's got this. I mean Christie Christie as well a matter put her her key out in the open open about point when she said that you know she she feels a a couple of different ways but she's GonNa vote on game and that's what she's going to vote on. I mean I knew she was waiting for Jackson. They said they just all right. Yes Oh my God Jackson may get Jackson but Jackson. Maybe time I wanted to say really quick before you addressed that that win win. Julie cuts the final two and said Mickey Holly. We're GONNA hear your final two questions. You can give speeches and immediately Jackson. It's been a it's been amazing. It's been this life with you in the game and I love you and that's great and I was like that's just a little more shaded Julie then they got the last laugh in when they wrote Mickey on the fricking keys and Mike still bugs me. Oh my God I have expected to just walk like I'm sorry. Who is this person right. I don't know I'm waiting for the backyard. Interviews versus claims that she meant to vote for a holly instead and she says she pulled a Topaz but we just didn't see it happened and his pictures on her keys. She still would have been confused about that. Oh Oh my God. This is what they look in. The end like holly got more votes than I thought she. She's GonNa get. I thought she was going to get like if I was seventy two or eight to one cat voting for holly but she actually did get votes from the Coal Jessica and cads so Jackson wins six votes. It's a free but before we find out Jackson wins six votes to three we got to talk to the pre jury and this is where we're things got fun and I was definitely here for the first thing and I was in I was Kinda shocked at included this the House meeting with Nicole being locked out of the Hoa Term Kirsten it was really really fun and that they were dragging the people who were a part of that and over the spokesperson for that and I was here for it. Yes it was absolutely perfect. They set it up very well. Lovie is incredibly well-spoken and did a really good job of explaining what was absolutely not okay about that situation and then I mean Nicole did not have prompting to know that that was is going to come out but I think she did a good job addressing as well you know. I tried to forgive him move forward but I didn't see the footage but lovie like literally calling them out was great. It and I was really glad that they brought that up as well as the other bad behavior. I suppose Paul from nineteen our eighteen and nineteen on twitter today and he was talking a lot about how he's just so surprised that there's still no big brother Reunion. I mean survivor has a reunion. Challenge has a reunion. The every show on earth has a reunion these reality shows and when you think about it. It really is Kinda surprising that they don't do anything like this. this felt like like like. I'm so glad that they covered all this stuff like. This was some important stuff that we've been hounding. CBS and Big Brother all season call them out on this call them out on this like you have to say something so you can't just let this go so glad that got covered it also just kind of feels like the stuff that maybe would everybody would benefit from having these a day or two later where they're just able go. Look and see what they're talking about. you know they've just been through a whole like ninety days and this happened dates twenty four so as much as we remember it. I feel you like it would be beneficial to all parties involved if everybody knew the exact clips that were being talked about. Obviously they know what they did but they're they're like. They're obviously talk about it and it didn't the problem here. I had a little Birdie told me that Kennedy was GONNA. Let them have it the finale on and I was certainly here for it but I really wanted big brother to help her a little bit more and play some clips and receives of what she was talking about so the house. Tsk couldn't be like cursed Kirsty Christie. I'm so used sinkers mcinnis or Christie where she's like my hormones than I didn't feel good in Initi- apologized but she didn't know what she was apologize. I had no idea what they were talking about and no one hundred percent so a friend of mine we're watching the episode together and essentially she and I had this whole conversation about how we felt like big brother gave way too much time to the people who had caused all of this aggression and essentially taking away from the people who are actually marginalized in this situation because you have people like me who got to say a little bit but I mean really not all that much. Where were the REC-. It's like I wanNA throw it in their faces. Excuse Jackson J it's fine yes yeah Jack in Jackson Christie and everybody everybody time to try to clean up their own mess where the that time could have been spent more Kirsten by showing receipts what happens yeah absolutely because only only jock had seen any of the footage and even then Jack Manage to say his whole spiel without one time actually apologizing to me when he's on solid Salaam footage so he should have actually been able to do so like you'll notice his words were. I can't ever apologize to you enough. I can't do enough. I can't apologize you know it will go a long way saying I'm sorry and actually apologizing at all. No I didn't recognize the sorry is never going to be enough and I may never be able to make up to you what I did instead but I am sorry and I'm going to try to make a change that goes a hell of a lot further than personal doesn't reflect to him as a person and I can never apologize enough interesting how that's not an apology. I went Jackson apologized. She said I'm sorry if I offended you allergy so apology. Yes I have learned that in the past ten years of my life yes all right so then we disarm really what I want but I'm glad to see that can say some some some stuff on onstage onstage and then they wait another direction which I did not expect them to go but I was glad for it. They talked about the camp director thing and who Jackson banished for camp director and this is when things started go downhill for Jackson this when he really got the shift smacked out of them Liana with what's coming to him in the real world when Julie pointed out that that you know hey you banish these three people and Cliff David Kenny Jessica and cliff some viewers meaning all viewers thought ought to little races so what say you Jackson and he was even though I know I see Duman the Chad saying that they clearly prepared Jackson but I agree with that because got away with his pants down here early on yeah there's absolutely no way I mean judging on his reaction first of all to the question but then when they cut to commercial Marshall Break and you can see him talking to Holly. He's like Oh my God. Did you hear that I mean I just love you believe so for that so shocked and mouth. I'm not racist is what he was saying like. There's people who could clearly see what you're saying like. There's no way they prepare him for that. Oh my God it was so funny though because then his defense to that was well it's based on. I'm first impressions. Oh what might dictate a first impression Jackson. I don't see that like I don't see race. The Liberal leader he said yeah race played no factor in it and like it's really cute to say that when he obviously has no idea what an implicit biases that's the that's the thing he didn't walk in their same E. N. Word I mean it wasn't something overly racist that we can all identify but when you pick three minorities and the old guy I for banishment on day one. It's going to have a bad look and not only that I've talked about this before. I wanted to see what some of the preachers like Sam Bella what they thought the fact that you know the first three people that were victims from the house where all people of color it was like how can you not. How can you not see that it. Is it just something that you're oblivious to and if you don't notice the fact that the people who are victims from the House or Obi David and Kenny and then you know obviously clip on he's like in and then they just for shits and giggles there to make it four for four people of Color. It was like what are you doing. Do you not see the optics of what you're doing and it was like Liana was totally lost Jackson and the other houseguests. I guess even people like Tommy may not have been fully aware of how it looked in what I was asking home was. How can you not see this like. You never thought about the fact that everybody you're kicking out of color. I'm telling you Jackson doesn't see because Jackson doesn't see the of race above that I know I mean I think I actually really really appreciated David's answer because I think he addressed a He bridge the gap enough to say Jackson. Look I understand that you know. It was a game move. However there was implicit bias that was part of the situation and I hope hope that you know he can grow Jack and Jackson he addressed both of them can grow from the situation which I think that that's part of the issue of Jackson's at feel like he did anything wrong and so if one bit ever GonNa improve then he has to recognize that the things that he's doing our exact examples of implicit bias yeah that's the thing though I talked over him a little little bit when he said implicit bias and maybe it didn't get through Kirsten they did like almost everybody else got to have their say Jackson Jock Christie. All all of them got to have a full say and then when Davis talking. I'm making a really great point. Julie's okay sorry David. We don't that's not enough time like he should have been able to finish that thought yeah L. Well. We had to get into the really hot news of the Hour Matt where we get to confront nick with his bad behavior where he left the house or when you left the house bell left the house saying don't make me look stupid. I think they've been shared a couple. I love you is in there and then he goes to the jury he makes googly eyes with Cats Anza into kisses and whatnot I mean picks her up and it's all on camera and he knows it and not only that producer even asked him about it. He knew that the roosters asked him about it and he's like well. I was hoping they wouldn't show it googly eyes and kissing and whatever that's what's been going on Gerald. I don't want to get into this time. I have to watch myself here on the Primetime Primetime. JP Boasting Kirsten Yeah Yeah Yeah you know he was not ready for that. He will I tweeted. He was not ready to see Bella in any way he was not like. There's no point in his life where he would've been ready to see Bella again. After all of that I mean after he left the house. He was very clearly like all right. She's gone now. I'm just announcement assists again and obviously we saw he was Oliver. Tommy which was another story and then he gets to the jury house and he finds somebody he can actually like be with and probably was with pretty consistently. You ask what it looked like so yeah he he did not have any idea how to handle the situation and you can tell that she was very upset. You can tell from social so media that she has been very hurt by all of this and the two of them probably not going to be the best of friends outside the House to say the least not I I would say go sorry someone like that. Where Nicholas my mind win in a different direction. I wait the Jerry head. Your head went into wrong direction and obviously as I said previously in the PODCAST. Make sure so you get your questions in our. Ha P we're going to go to them in a minute. Here's Scott saint-pierre so mixture. You are getting your questions. If you want us to answer them. We talk about it. that's where my notes mad. Jackson wind six to three holly gets the votes of Nicole Jessica and cat. Do you have some pressing news. You WanNa talk about the the reason we're all celebrating tonight at the very end of the yes that I didn't look. Here's the thing I stopped writing at that point because I was so excited that it happens happen. The most important part of the episode will Nicole Winds America's favorite player. That was the most important part I was living for that and we will put a pin in that really quickly as we go to these questions so we will come back. I I'm sorry I just what are you doing well. What is this under his favorite player. I know you have to wear the Unicorn. I don't think they can see you right now. I'm pretty sure that equal yes scholars skype. They can see you sure if they could see all the question and the four of us but now they can see you so that's Great Okay Scott. You can put that question about this question from Lauren Brooke Liana. Who says can you all. Please discuss that Jackson's. Father Aka fish apparently always says there is always a bigger fish. Did you understand this question awesome hidden meaning. There's always a bigger fish. I don't know I'm not sure you although I will say fish like Bernie Sanders from behind says. I thought I thought who was up there but but yeah I don't know I don't know if that means maybe that's all part of the colloquialisms that Jackson used by the way column fish because he always says that this is definitely the possibility. I see some people in the chatter making fun of me that I made my screen name. Brent from RHA P. I was actually on my weekly meltdown and I had to put in my screen name so I put Brent from. HP The and then I haven't been back on streaming which is what we're using to stream since then so it just naturally came up because my computer remembered it and that's why I'm Britain from our HP and I if you guys didn't need a reminder then you have another one so this question from E. N. E. N. Rice says add ROB CICIRINO RHA Hashtag. If if there was a game called a big cliche is their number player in history who could compete with Jackson Aka Mickey. What do you what do you say met? Uh Tyler Tyler was big on those. I feel like I feel like Mickey's better better but if there was somebody to compete with them there depending on I just I I appreciate Ian for clarifying that it's Mickey in case. Any of us. Were confused. Wait who who is again. I'm confused okay. I'm going on a Kirsten. Take this one from friends of Han thirty three as much as I hate Jackson the player who played hard one. What does this mean for future future players. Will we have more cutthroat gamers on bb twenty two so this question talks about a little man talked about which is what effect will Jackson winning winning having played a really hard game line his pants off the final five unsuccessfully coming through basically treating cliff like shit out the door at the final four and still winning the game. What does that say about the players and bb twenty two and how aggressive they might be. I think that there is a chance that we will continue to see more aggressive games. Get rewarded but I think that's something to consider is always at the end of the day. These are real people that are experiencing real emotions and if the player who plays the hardest is not able to own their game in a way that makes the jury feel okay voting for them then they're not going to get the votes and so that's that's also something to consider like Jackson was able to own his game enough that it made people feel like okay. I can vote for him right whereas if if someone doesn't own own et and tries to lie about what they did and pretend they're not as cut throat as they were. I think that will go the exact same way. The last few years have gone yeah. It was oh. I can't remember who was maybe he was mad at him. Maybe you made a point of saying that some of Jackson's worst behavior was to the pre jurors and I felt like that the jury itself and the people that made ended up. We're really able to wash their hands of Kirstein and not really take too much too hard. Maybe Kat did but I felt like that you know since then she'd revealed but she knows holly. I'm guessing she revealed. She knows holly that it was. Maybe seen the the the the on deaf ears. I felt like so with vote. The Jackson was never going to get and no one ever really took that seriously the whole season anyway so I don't think she was really going to be in a position to sway the vote so I I think that's probably true at real sunny twenty says. Do you think any of the house guests changed their votes. After hearing out Jackson Holly Matt I felt like that they didn't change their votes but I felt like Mickey actually persevered and got a couple of votes that maybe could have gone against him if he had answered badly with cliffs question especially in terms of owning his game athletic again like I said he owned it just enough to make sure he kept that vote from from cliff yeah. I think the way that I saw the votes tonight was that they were pretty locked in from the start. I definitely think I see your point that maybe maybe they could have changed if his answers were worse than they were and you know people didn't like what he had to say but it did feel like the votes were kind of locked the vote the one vote that surprised sized me which I don't know if it changed or whatever it was but Nicole she said you know being in the House with you to the last week. I made up my mind in that last a few days then this is where I'm deciding to vote in you know she voted for Holly is something that I have the statistics right now at a pull up for you but I feel like a a Lotta people who come in third. Don't vote for the person that affected them. I don't know if that's because K I mean just last season. Casey one took tyler and JC voted order for Tyler. Obviously the person that is in third also vote for the person they like. They have a relationship with a person they're voting for usually but the entire season it did seem. I'm like Nicole was closer to Jackson than she wants to holly so that was one surprising to me. That is a good point Leon. I like the Joe Jackson really did lose. Nicole's vote in the last last week because he was so just absolutely piss whenever Nicole in holly spend time together whenever when he heard from holly that Nicole was was campaign to her he was always talked about the fact that there was this was his money and he no one was gonna take it away from him. Nicole even brought that up to holly like you always talks about the fact that this is his money and holidays like like you know I'm there too and I want to win the money and he acts like I'm not even there so I felt like that. That was really the impetus for Nicole changing her here. I agree with Matt that I felt like she was Jackson. Accident vote all the way up until the last week but I felt like he did a good job of losing their vote by how he treated on her way out the door. Yeah absolutely I think it just goes to show that jury are- management is important every single day that you are in the house and you know even though you think oh it's the last week. I've got this locked up. Whatever it's fine no the person that's still there. It's important how you treat them. I think that that's something that Jackson did that was definitely detriment that lost him that vote so I completely agree he would spend the entire the the competition would end and he would be celebrating with Hollywood run off and you would see him celebrating. He's one step closer to the wind and then he would go find the coal like hours later and be like hey buddy. You're doing okay. Hey right like let me give you a hug like we're still you're like my little sister right and she was like this is stupid. Why are you. Why are you trading this this. This is dumb so yeah. He definitely lost her. Yeah I think so too at jellyfish. ninety-three says who is on the shortlist for being a guest on the show. I'm guessing they're talking about our show. RH JP but maybe they're talking about different show. I Dunno Kirsten. If you can make sure you answered Chilean question about. It was like a stiff like hat's could chill out. I think they do mean on very feel like God cliffs on the shortlist shortlist. I'm sure lovie will be back. We'll be back yes and at this point. I feel like it's a good opportunity discussed. The fact that Azmat noted Nicole one with over one million votes America's favorite player also in the top three were Tommy and cliff in a surprise to me. All of the online polls that I had seen Matt had Chemi in the top three although I think cliff was number number four did it had been really close. Yeah they the Chemi- votes Ravi coming from the fans online. I it seems very unlikely that the casuals remember her. I don't think that she had been in any even like any clips on the show sense she'd been convicted unless I missed remembering but I always felt like we made a good push. Show the people who are voting for I feel like she's number four in that count and I had been really good for big brother like if they want to try to put a nice bow on the seasonally on when we're talking about all the shit that happened with the pre jury and everything that they were discussing about the comments that were made and the implicit bias. If we actually got Kenny into the top three would would've been living but then I saw over to the side when they came back from the break. I was like oh I mean. I think that there are things that show can and do to make that happen. We've seen that began where one edit on one episode can cause a particular thing to happen and when it comes to a fan vote so I think if the big brother producers had truly truly wanted that they could have at least done something to make that happen and we didn't see that kind of thing where like they could allied. They could have been like the top three. He is harming a coaling. Cami just to get the reaction because does ultimately matter who's really in third place. Nicole knew who cares just to get that reaction. I would have loved to see everybody's face the job drop that you know that moment of I'm sorry who's on the top three who who is that person even in our cast who yes yes the person that you've been talking about all season long the person's name who you can't get out of your mouth that that person isn't the toddler. I remember when cliff was making fun of the fact that Oh you know Kenny might end up in the top three America's player but ha ha ha ha and I'm like you don't even know what you're talking about. In clarify your your famiy and I had some hits misses this season but that was not a good look and I was really annoyed by that. It's all right for Nicole Nicole. I want to also mention as the first woman to win America's favorite players since BB fifteen fi- five seasons in between sixteen seventeen anything twenty five guys sense then have one and she finally pointing out. I did nine backs away from the guys so happy for her on all levels and just I heard genuine like she did not see that coming and sometimes you know when somebody expects that they're gonNA be like Tom. Probably expected he was going to be there. Cliff was probably hoping like hell he was going to be there and Nicole knew she had to have known that. She was probably somebody that the fans were. I I know I that's that's true I think I think that Nicole thought that I mean there've been plenty of people who were victims. In third place who we didn't give a crap about. I feel like Nicole all thought that she made a dumb move. The final five she paid for it at the final four with clip getting victim and gutters the final three in the thought she was thunderhead. I I don't funding. She ever heard million years predicted that she was going to get all the love and attention that we want to give to her yeah. No I don't think so either. I think that she somebody who underestimates herself in a number of different elements and so. I think that this is just another one of those. I think that she you know she said she was like I want to be sort of the underdog winner and I don't think she truly realized how much of an underdog she was and how well like she was and so it's really nice to see her when AFC and just sort of have this physical and financial representation of how much we value her. Yes not happen to a better person. It really could not. I was so psyched four by the way for those who listened to the audio podcast. Matt has his Unicorn Unicorn. I thought you were in the mast the mass singer. I really thought that this was what was what you were promoting here. You're like the Liana. Don't you cover that show or something. I guess showing support. Did you rent it from somewhere. Where did you get that from. I'll tell you later. Oh No. No that sounds like till nine. Uh on at many bond says I feel soiled after watching the finale. Do you think Jackson got what was coming to him. Should Julie have have called him a racist on national television with only a few seconds to respond whoever wants to take this one can go really discuss assets like we would have liked to have seen video clips so that everybody would know what was actually being said. That's the that's the that's the point that we're trying to make is without receipts. It's like anything in the news these days where if you don't have it like if you don't have absolute proof and even then some people sometimes people in the world don't believe it if you don't have absolute proof of what was set at what time into what person you're you're not going to remember it. You're not going to think about it. Just let me go outta sight. OUTTA mind and I really like to see more receipts on because they had ready ready for Jack. They had them ready to go for Jack but no one else it was like we're just gonNA take our word for it and they were able to Yada out of their way out of it. Okay okay all part of that though is because production just hates Jack like did you see in the final three the final part of the competition. Everybody gets their own segment. An and Jackson is like sitting in the wind with terrible fan work because his hair is literally blowing in front of his face mattering at all and the woods. I think that that was the final dig at Jadwin like he was doing a really terrible job. He does not have he does not have work as Jason Momoa standing because he's not a good actor actor. He did terrible job. Curson with the handwriting there when he was pretending rate would just a really write something what are you doing. You have a notepad there. No one is going to read. You didn't just start scribbling letters. Write the alphabet. I don't care touch the pen to the paper. It was so bad so bad all right. Here's a question from Brendon Lynnwood who asks Matt. I will give this one to you based on the tone Julie with the jury and the call outs does Hashtag. BB twenty-one get relegated to the fifteen purgatory where production pretends that never existed. What do you think about the season. We're going to talk about it or they're. GonNa try to forget about it. They're not forgetting about it. They had some characters on the season that they loved and some of them that I think I mean as as much as I mean Christie Kinda came under fire a little bit tonight night but like the amount of effort that they put into keeping her in the house I think from behind the scenes they they loved Christie. They want Kristie around obviously Nicole. I I have been saying that I think Nicole we back. I don't think it's anywhere near that level just in terms of like. CBS is like perspective on it. I think that they've been under fire since the Chemi eviction when the three David Lovie and comey were on stage and everybody was pointing out to then. Do you see what this is. Do you see what this looks like one of my tweets even the people are all about it and I remember what exactly what I said but it was. CBS Like what like explain yourself and they took this opportunity. I think to explain themselves so they. They had a lot that they you needed to say about it but I don't think that they're anywhere near ready to just let go with these people the way that they did with bb fifteen. I think the I think they like a couple of them. I think so too. I think it's GonNa get relegated to the fifteen waistband asked Amanda please. Manda cult tweets asks Liana do you think the casual audience blindsided by Julie and the previous questions regarding race some controversy since they did such a poor job of showing it throughout the season. I think this is a great question to talk about this. No I totally agree. I mean even I think tweeted out something about like hey can you send me the receipt for Jackson's racial comments because essentially it hasn't really been shown we got to see the re the receipts from Jack but apart from that I mean a lot of the stuff is really swept under the rug and so you know I know Matt you talk about like Oh well. There was a people magazine article and they sort of talked about it but when it comes to the actual show really wasn't that much that was shown and so I think that there is policy that is trying to sweep it under the rug especially because they went to Jack they went to Jackson may told them directly in tyree. The room like this is how you're being perceived. You need to correct this behavior so clearly they were trying to stop that before. It really escalated into anything. I mean obviously obviously they were unable to prevent that from happening Kirsten. I have to believe you're with me on a and I'm sure mad on this question the blind side of the audience at the Union of finality by asking about all these things at the pre jury and raise controversy but they never showed it on the show except for checks fiction yeah and again that was only moments with Jack. There wasn't that much of everything else that happened so I think that without seeing what had happened throughout the entire season is going to be very difficult for someone who's only watch the episodes in is not keeping up online to know where this came from like what I'm talking about. They're gonNA be like Oh Mickey's a hopeless romantic and protected showman's and that's what we've seen so it's just a little a little tough without receipts. I just hope that the audiences smart enough to see when the shots of the of the jury were were on screen and it was look who's talking and you saw Sam and then four people of color and they were all all you know expressing how they feel about the situation you know from from everything going on this. I have to hope that the audience even if they didn't remember that NC the clips they see what they were talking about. It was yeah that's a good that's a good point. I felt like that the best time even though it heard that it was really interesting when cliff one the by that competition because then you saw aw lovie and Cami and David sitting up there in those uniforms from camp comeback with Julie Chen and I felt like there was I talked about this before there was no way the show could hide from it anymore because they hadn't said boo up until then and they finally had to address it and Julie Chen that was right around the time where they may be rice pudding comment Liana and I feel like they had they finally had to face the facts that there were some issues with some of their casts okay so I went to the big brother facebook page where we we can truly tap into the casuals. He'll okay so this is the comment that has the most liked the most liked it has nine hundred nineteen eighteen likes at the moment and it says big brother you should be ashamed to try to turn the live finale into a racial event and make it controversial is absolutely terrible. I've been a fan for twenty ears and this is the worst it's ever been they go on for a bit so anyway and then we yeah exactly. I mean there's no setup for for this right because they don't necessarily have the back story. I understand why they feel that way but that's the thing I don't even blame this comments or the nine hundred seventeen people liked it though there's nothing to draw from didn't see it in. I have to believe that someone like who who writes something like this and has no compassionate hearts whatsoever for what some of the jury went through probably would would write this comment no matter what they saw on television but the fact that they didn't see it. I felt like gives them a little bit of an out yeah. It would be nice for it to be a situation where there is no out where you can't say oh. They know. Ignorant should have been shown so that people would know yeah. Let's make this our last question by the way those of you in the Hash in the chat room rather it can give us a Hashtag you. Do you WANNA see us for this. Show get that thinking right now. At a Libya has says Hashtag Rha love doctor will with the jury very roundtable how he called out. Jack was great scouting not love this roundtable Olivia but anyways but be that as she says but who else would you like to see mediating mediating the jury discussion anyone WanNa take this. One doctor will so much from big brother nineteen. She Pre Jury Jessica. Ah they should have no one's laughing anyone who actually believes about what's happening a clown. I was around. I thought there was more of a snowball's chance in hell that it might actually be happening because I just reasons and you know part of a showman's I mean and I just felt like in my from Big Brother Nineteen that they won the amazing race. Moore a lot of people like cody and Jessica. I was according to Fan Look I. I feel like the here's the thing I two things I felt like that. Jessica was intentionally trolling people by putting that out by trying to get people to think she was doing it but then I also enjoy doctor will L. Kirsten trolling likely Jessica from bb nineteen by saying that you know every year I hope the roundtable and I don't know if you saw the tweets or the interview that he you did but other former houseguests always like to pretend that they're going to host it but it's just to get attention and I really feel sorry for them. Yeah he definitely was referring to a very specific the person there in response to question here. I think I mean Daniel. Ray has said that she is interested in doing has been in the the final two she has. I've been on a jury. I feel like it's no brainer. I feel like they need a winner. Though with you in terms of January as who should be but I like the show wants a winner. It's cleaner for them to say look I won and you didn't so let's talk about it now so that they have ownership of it but on the other hand if it was just like I can see January as doing the mediating and she said she wanted wanted to do it on the other hand like these people who watch big brother these days. They don't even know who their big brother. History is so it's amazing that they know who. Dr Will is you know. He's got gray hair now but I don't know that they do. You think that there's probably a large majority of people who are like. I don't know who this person is. Who Comes and goes around table every year sad sad. My answer is nobody. I want Dr Welby well all right well. This is what we uh-huh coming up at port where you on as I said on the jury the jury roundtable though L. F. C. roundtable. I'm thinking gee roundtables all the time the NFC roundtable. I have something very big plan for you guys so you know here's the thing. Armstrong and I had been looking for a vehicle to do something together and we haven't found the right vehicle. I like the chemistry that I have with Taryn. I think it's a very union chemistry. He gets on. I get back at him and we we love to hate each other and hate to love each other but ultimately I like him and respect him and I I do like working with them but we've never found the right thing for us to do and then his political. We had a couple of weeks ago. Who as those those of you who follow Rha P no is the winner of sequester season two and you might be intrigued to know that even though I was the one who campaigned for Kim to be on the show oh I actually had not watched sequester at the time so when rob asks Kim. What is sequester all about? She said it's like a cross between big brother and the genius that was basically her description of it. The Korean game showed the genius and I wasn't honestly intrigued with like really that's what it is because I thought it was online thing but no it's live that's in a house and it's like big brother but with a twist and so I went to watch it and honestly I was addicted from the moment that I watched it. I tweeted a couple of friends of mine that this was like my new favorite thing. I was totally into it. It's so much like big brother in that Inter House but there are elements of survivor in it where majority rules. There's no nominees. There's no head of household or anything like that. You're still voting so your social game still is king. However there are elements of the genius Senate where the format of the game is changing from from week to week and you have to use used your strategic acumen in your social ability and your physical prowess to adapt to those changes in the game for instance one round they had around where the person with the lowest number votes went home another round they had the everybody had a bounty for every other person remaining in the game and if you've got that person eliminated from the game and voted it out then you would get an advantage in the game so I instantly fell in love with it and I was really really psyched about it so I went to rob asked him if I could cover sequester Wester season three because semester season three is starting tomorrow believe it or not and he said yes. I asked Taryn Thomas very much like me never heard of it before but once he started washing he was totally holy into it so for the first time are JP can announce that we are covering sequester season three. It's coming up in this November. I think it's it's Audrey Middleton who runs it produces it and doesn't excellent job by the way the production value of this show on a shoestring budget is absolutely phenomenal Liana. I just want to tell you you that they have a big pot of money. At the end you can win and it's twenty crazy gamers like us people who I think it's twenty five five hundred eighty five hundred twenty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars budget to work on but it's twenty crazy gamers like are they. Here's the thing I don't even need the money but I'm glad it's there but they have twenty crazy gamers like ourselves who all live and breathe reality television. Audrey Middleton doesn't cast any Alice's any Jessica's. They're not they're Liana. It is twenty crazy. nutcases like ourselves and I have more big news. I am going down and it to Atlanta tomorrow to interview the cast of sequester season three really excited about it. I got a new Susan everything thing and I look I just WanNa say so. That is what we have coming up for you this November early on. Are you excited about it very excited. That's so great. You'RE GONNA go down at the castle. It's been crazy to see where sequester has come. 'cause I remember watching the first season jumping between like youtube chat rooms to follow everything and to not having a real house and having having coverage. I think that's so great. I'm really excited about. Let me just tell you I told Audrey Middleton. I'm like I'm so stunned by is this is like a real show season. Two who was spectacular tackler there was a time when it was not as good like online and you can follow and you had to be there live and I admit that that wasn't great to watch it wasn't easily digestible by a mass audience audience but now it is she learned so much from Susan wants to season two and it just like it really hit me like where the hell of I been. I know you are a fan of the show as well because it had your boy Jesse Lozano Salon. I loved season two. It was great and having some you know it's hard to say returnees because they're not returning to sequester. Some of them actually were but having people that we've seen before on big brother candidate big brother. US The amazing race like all of those people that participate in the game. I don't know anything about the Castro season three okay but if that's the case again it's so much fun to see those those people mixed in with some hardcore fans of the game who just dying to play something and you know not everybody can get on big brother but there's a a lot more room for people to play the game so I think this'll be a lot of fun. It's really issue. Obviously I have to tell you guys like I said to a friend of Mine Tearing Armstrong. He's he's a tough nut to crack like. He's a tough audience. I wasn't even sure when I went to him like I said hey would. You like to cover this with me. I don't know if you've watched the show before he's like you know. I meant to watch it but let me take a look at it and then he got back to me. He was like absolutely love it. This is great. This is like if you're fan of big brother you are going to love sequester as I told rob it has catnip for HP. It's got strategy. It's got a gamers. It's got physical competitions. You know the the format of the game changes week the week and I am so here for us so that's coming up for you this November. Make sure your lookout for that. We're also GONNA do an introductory podcasts tarrant about why you should be watching sequester for and what to appreciate about the game and why he worked before by the way for those of you. I see this in the chat all over the place. I made first of all I made this this art that you're seeing right now on the screen screen but the there's a lady in sequester it's called the sequester bought and she only has one arm so. I just put me in turn. Armstrong space over it and that's why it looks like I don't have an arm but I am well aware of the fact that I do not have an arm. I wanted to put me in tarrant together in the screen. It actually looks like we're getting married Matt. That's getting from this. That's what what we all expected. There's GonNa come eventually reality television to US covering sequester season three and me going down to interview the contestants. Thank you ready for it more very official. I'm very proud of you. I the professionalism jumped out yeah. It's always exciting to get more coverage. I haven't eighteen also questioned season two but I've watched some what I've seen is really fun and I think it'll be a fun new element to get some coverage of it as it goes and it's a perfect time of the year for JP from November to about early February when we have a crap ton of content on our because survivors N. Dean and then with December January February not a lot so I feel like it's a perfect time of the year and and look for that like I said we have a Hashtag from the chat room. I think I saw `boy Hashtag. Boy Gets Confetti. I saw something about Brent's takeover and you guys can use that if you want but I like. HASHTAG boy gets confetti because we all know what we were thinking. Liana when we saw the boy gets confetti this time so beautiful aw he was so upset that he now affected bring we needed yes some looking for the Hashtag while we might go without but there is some more stuff coming up on our. Ha I wasn't sure if we had more stuff coming up on our J. P. R. Hashtag Nicole Appreciation Party. Let's continue. I'm fine fine yeah well. That's okay. I I tell you what we're changing our my Hashtag Nicole appreciation party. I know some people were trying to get that trending earlier. They did a pretty good job but the with the strength of RHA P. I feel like we can really do it and concentrate on something good so screw Jackson in the boy gets Confetti Hashtag Nicole appreciation appreciation day. Nicole appreciate was a day or Party. I don't know I'm pleased. Rabbi Hashtag is the Chad Nicole appreciation party also coming up for you survivor thirty nine episode one recap who is this with all my God. It's rough sister. Nino and tearing Armstrong at this very moment I know each other and also another season thirty nine premier or recap with ream daily Curson Goddess Ream is coming back and I know you're happy about it. You know what I'm happy about it. I am I'm did on so that is that's the lady who we WANNA see also Liana for the survivor thirty nine episode one podcast the premier the first study podcasting the flop herself. Nicole Serena is your guess. What are you have to say about that. You WanNA tease it. Oh my gosh super super excited head. Nicole is on last season and it was amazing so definitely looking forward to this. Mike and I have already chit chatted about a few games. We're going to do so definitely. Check it out. It's going to be a lot of fun excellent. I can't wait for that. Also David Bloomberg Jessica Lewis or back with Wi- blink lost. They're going to talk I. I don't know who lost and I don't WanNa know because I'm not sure I was preparing myself Laura tomorrow from my interviews. They have to do plus the finale podcasts tonight. I was getting ready for everything to David Bloomberg back also if you want to become a patron of his podcasts and get all this great content and support the podcast you can do that by going to rod has a website site dot com slash patron and you get access to patiently shows discounts community rha Swag. I actually have some Taryn Swag that I may wear tomorrow sometime when I'm not in my suits so it should be a blast and as I said we're going to go with Hashtag. Nicole's appreciation day are sorry. Nicole's appreciation party as the Hashtag Tag Kirsten McGinnis work. Can people find you if they want to see you. After this show yes you can follow me on social media at Curson said what a lot and they can find me doing weekly. Riverdale recap podcasts with Mary. Quick Hausky on cow ski cast that is cow with a K. That is another sequester alumni as Mary quick cash gas ceased sequester she played before it was in the real world. Yes yes before it was the real world exactly so Matt's where can people find you you find me on twitter at Matla gory and if you want any more in the next coming weeks the challenges still going pretty much just started and I'm doing weekly recaps of the challenge over on the Diamond Colin Network so check that out and hopefully it can happen with you guys at some point and Talk Wester. It'll be a lot of fun. That will be a lot of fun. Domin Colin big the big friends of the podcast. I'm glad to see you're still getting work over there. Liana where it can be able to find you can find me on social media at Liana Boris in addition to the HP BNB puja and I will be covering the mass singer hung while we're going to be covering all of the ridiculousness Massingir thank you for inspiring me so definitely look out for that the wrap up seed excellence and you can always find me at one lucky gay that has his Nicole Unicorn hat back on that is such a great job. I love that I'm so glad you brought that out tonight. That really makes it a for me anyway. I've gotten all of the appreciation will be destroyed. People telling me that I'm rocking it as a host. Thank you guys. That's very sweet of you. I feel like I did a terrible job because at the beginning I totally lost my place because I heard my voice coming back. I mean I was like wait. Can you guys you're too because if you can't podcast but no you couldn't hear it so that that is great Hashtag Nicole's appreciation party. Thank you guys so much for joining us and CI look for the Big Brother Interviews with rob sister the entire Armstong they will be uploaded on the website as time allows later today and into tomorrow. Thank you very much guys later bye

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Big Brother 21 Thursday Night Aug 8 Eviction Recap | Kaitlyn Herman

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Big Brother 21 Thursday Night Aug 8 Eviction Recap | Kaitlyn Herman

"You we live from my apartment. It's rob has podcasts and now here's a guy who's ready to recap another episode of the season. He's in messier than an alien autopsy. I m rob sister nino. Everybody and welcome to the podcast live here on a thursday nights and other caitlyn halen thursday here in the studio kaitlyn. How are you all of us but i am so thrilled. Amongst angst greatness river lot to talk about here tonight. Caitlyn much like last thursday when you brought in alex willett else you've outdone yourself again here this way honestly welcome yes sir okay. We have you with us not one but two great guests to join us on the panel tonight. Please welcome from big brother twenty daily and swaggie cr here in the studio <hes> <hes> we have broken attendance records here in the studio. We've never done this before never had three s here in the studio at one the front up. It's crazy how you guys doing. We are usable heat regular okay visiting caitlyn. How's the has been. It's been good with a long pause. I'm thinking okay. We're visiting like a lot of this. Okay okay now not just as kaitlan amazing for sure for sure for sure into over here. Okay let me know in the chad. If anybody's mike is his <hes> <hes> yeah not allowed enough that you know a lot of a lot of moving parts here of course also with us here tonight sure man. Who's a very happy the panel mr parole up. How are you very happy with the panel gang gang alright all right. Oh god as a lot to talk through tonight here with the vic shin of jack a lot of bills that would never happen then but it did it happened. It happened kaelin your your reaction to jack who once upon a time that you are just just just another other new face. Yes chess is sir off win that have been called. Just another female face avoid the era of women call that i feel like throughout history history west is number regular history. I mean yeah so java the face again. I made an announcement to you a few times ago and i'll say it again. You are something else something okay all right so we'll talk about. Jack will talk about julie's interview with legitimate have scoliosis by the end of this podcast. We'll go. Let's go back to the white shot. I don't want to back and i won't we won't be here. We don't have to <hes> we could say on the white shot. I think we're i think we're fine. I can stand up straight right and then we will talk about our new h. O. h. and is tommy. I i we actually do tommy. H i mean i not here for tommy h h because it's going to be all tommy all week long sure that we're going to get tommy's like like intended results out of this week but the field trip in play but we'll see a field trip looms large and we'll talk about all of the ramifications. Can you believe this. This field trip could ruin by joe. H this could be the worst. They joe javer like when you say anything that ends with what should be an e._r. Ah la starting. Can you believe in america talk about that. Voting is still going on for the the field trip and we will see that on the sunday night episode get your questions in hashtag are h. All right <hes> so balian swaggie <hes> we we haven't gotten your take on other than when caitlyn facetime to you a couple of weeks ago big big brother twenty-one at the halfway point. Are you guys feeling on the season overall. How honest can we be honest so i'm not gonna lie like i am disappointed in bb twenty-one because this is my first out of the house i didn't watch b._b._c. before and i was like really excited to get into. It and i'm very disappointed with the cast. Also <hes> tried unsuccessfully like i've really tried multiple times to watch. It and it's like this is not for you pulling teeth. I wanna scream at the television and i'm so glad i'm not in my house because our go nuts on me. I don't really like the season. I've watched two episodes. He's in the two one of them was taken over for the incident and the second one was just now yeah i heard like all the tweets and you didn't even watch the whole thing and you game late so like he was wide site so now with the turn in the game but now with jack being gone from the house. Is there more reason for optimism awesome yes. I'm excited because like jewish at the end of the episode. There is no clear like power looming over the house. Now can actually see some gameplay. I wanted to game play. I don't wanna see politics and people being mean in jack and jackson's shell like over. I just wanna see game play all right brent. Was that a fair assessment by julie elite to say that there. There's no power structure in the house anymore no. I don't think that was fair. I think there are power structures in the house right now. Ah i mean you could tell by the end of that competition that christie insists can contain themselves. They're so happy tommy one and nick was obviously throwing it because you didn't care if you want an honor of tommy anyone so i i feel like there are a couple different power structures in the howson. It's just not it just that the former big power structure is not as powerful oh as it once was but there are still remnants of it and they're still people or trying to keep it together like i will just tell you guys that prior to tonight. Tommy told jackson holly that if he want h h he would not put them up which sounds to me like the former six now the former five sorta kinda together maybe so. I don't know what's going to the line really hard to get him back together. He has little meeting so i'm sure he wants the structure that because he was living together this is dangerous where tommy is the one person person on that side of the house that really i think can see down the road a bit and i think could potentially do what's in the best interest of that group moving forward word and maybe potentially be the diplomat the try to mend the fences from this past week and we have a lot of faith in this field trip because oh chip of yes all right guys. We've been wrong well. I haven't i'm usually right but like you guys were very very up in arms about jessica h. o. h. which last asked me not for the tommy. H is going to be a good thing. We just don't know what can happen. We're so quick to pass judge. We know is happening trip. How freakin epic would it be. If christie went home well. We can probably let let's let's. Let's like good weight and well. Let's let's let's look ahead in a little bit. I think we need to talk about the interview that julie did with jack act tonight because i think that that was sort of an alzheimer and one that will remember for a long time whenever julie starts playing the clips for house guests getting them to comment on that and now brent going back to with arran in big brother fifteen. What what am i complain about that was was that i think that they should played clip for aaron to respond to to be able to you know give her the chance to be able to talk like know what she talking about so i really did like that. We got to see the clips but to me i. I thought that this was a little weird that we that the audience is seeing these clips for the first time here clips from the live feeds that were not at all addressed on the show obviously because back then jack was the golden boy he was the jason mimosa. He was the guy that everybody was into during the first few weeks. That was what he called me by the way this is. He was somebody that production production was putting all their eggs in and then once everything turned they decided to jump off the train and bury him which few people predicted coming into tonight that that's what would happen happen. I would say that the i was really here for its and i was glad that they showed the clips mainly because then you can't get a response from aaron where she says. I don't remember saying those things when you can see right your own lies however <hes> the one question that julie didn't ask him which i wanted her to ask. S. cam was so you jack. We're in control by all accounts for the first four to five weeks of the game. Have you noticed anything about the first four people that actually left the house. Did they have anything in common. Why were the first four people just happen to be people of color. I ask him that. Did you notice that was happening or was. Were you completely oblivious to that because i don't feel like there's a right answer no matter what he says and i feel like you could really pin him down yeah so duly onto. I'm to ask him a bunch of questions. In the interview he started to explain what was going on in the house said <hes> i i. We got some game talk doc and i did like when he was talking about how he was that he had this deal with jack looking back. I probably should've trust russell jackson but i made a decision jackson. Who you guys also mickey. That's his last. Thank god he wasn't talking about it. He had to deal with themselves it. We can't say you cannot say jackson in front of in front of julie's but in talking about his game jack jack had this to say you can't live life undergrad. You gotta stand by the choices that you make whether they're right or wrong so that was a very is no right or wrong look now. I was back regrets. What's what's what's done is done so this is a julie after playing the the clip for for jack in the interview. I'm cool jazz nicole. Everybody comey makes me want to stop a mud hole through chest controversy all right so this cap. You called her a bitch call. Their dog poop didn't use the word poop and we just heard you said you want to stop a. I'm not hall to her chest watching that now. What are your thoughts okay well. I will say that the stop the mudhole comment is based on something thing that sam said last season when she was frustrated when you said that that was in regards to you know this sava mudhole through the chest was infamously asli about me and i just wanted to say that like for him to 'em. We joke about it and stuff but i'm being so honest right now like that's. It's actually triggering to hear because it's not not like a jew. It's really not a joke like especially like when someone says that about something. Someone like just because sam said it. She was joking when she said it's over you to copy what she said. I'm pretend like it's a it's an odd it's actually very violent and so for can wear and you have to read like the climate like obviously country. She's a girl. She's talking about another girl. You're a physically like statues scary guy about talking about another girl that is also a girl of color so you have to be aware of the climate so even though you're like oh we were joking. No oh because you called her a bitch before then right after you followed up with you really just honestly would've done one thing like if he literally said nothing about her. All season was kind. They were friends and then if he wants us like yeah i was joking like i'm quoting sally sure but like it it adds onto the fact that peoria so stop <hes> some more from this part of the interview and i don't think there was any personal vendetta in behind saying that i think my statements were playful in a group of people. I do apologize for what i said. <hes> and that's very sincere i think i think comey was and he's a great person. I think this game and being in twenty four hour view of people and you say things and <hes> <hes> i wouldn't say i wouldn't say that i fully support the things that i said the way that i said to him. If i could take them back i would and i wish i could have articulated in some other way possible okay if he could take it back <hes> he he he he would but often can't live life undergrad regret standby later wrong. He's going to need a ton of time on this but since the show uh-huh spent time on a mini on it wasn't just about like specific things that he said because i see people some people in chatter like oh without comment by itself was terrible but it wasn't racist racist how he talks to cammie that he treated her and david and obi like animals like the jets really how he treated mm-hmm and of course like they they it didn't help that the can't come back thing they had them in uniforms on eight totally ostracized them from game talk but like his talk with kemi about the water bottle in the fridge tells you all you need to know about jack and how he views cami. He's so effing condescending to her and there's no part of me that believes the actually thinks that she's a nice person. He hates her sure. It was not playful. It was not placed wasn't there so i can be like kaylynn gosh right yeah. Blah blah blah laughing there to defend ourselves now. I don't know how much they film in the jury house say if we could get live feeds in the journal okay all right bailey is that like the next person that walks in the door and the jury house and he's like oh they really they really did me dirty on that and you know he goes off like go tell you what about cami. I still can't stand her. That would be the they should play that clip. They should but they won't they'll. They'll be on his head. I had not to speak anything about it. You know right yeah and this is what i really want. Okay so now. We're okay so whenever we went here with jack what would happen if jack's jackson aka mickey for those of you guys who don't know that that's his last name and what will happen. If he gets voted out next week will he get dragged dragged the same way. I think that they will. I think that like this was it okay. It was all jack not jackson. I think they might say something. No i think that they needed to pin it on jack and then now they need another golden boy so they're hoping that mickey will fill that a position and there's got to do that. I'm like caitlin these because tommy tommy can heat he will never golden boy. I'm sorry like there is a certain. There's a fit and he doesn't fit well they shouldn't have. I mean what agreed but you know they always. He's the only person that i truly feel like i i. I have absolutely no interest jackson. No jack i mean both not great but like jack particularly like i have literally no interest in even like messaging hand i mean i mean there's nothing. There's nothing to say to him or hot. Hold you do that. I would ride early. Uh cut to next summer when holly hey guess who's coming into the studio nikki touching next summer when like hersh bring jack and jackson coming here thursday night jack jackson in the studio they were controversial but now they're my impasse fans. Actually i can see that happening now happening now. We also got to see a lot of punishments punishments in this episode tonight hailing. You were here for the punishment. Oh i got a hoot and out of the situation i was sitting on the couch laughing so much and i typically don't like bits like that. It was ten minute rob literally softimage like that was the entire resigned resigned i could've i could've had forty five minutes of that. I have that for the whole episode. I thought it was the funniest thing i've ever seen brent. Did you like it. It was great. I mean the alien doctor. I could take it or leave it. Whatever but the angry alien scrape because i felt like the the the the alien was trying to tell jack that like we're not all here for him. He is reading stupid on his stupid tattoo. Hello my name. Is him scrub the toilet. Can i put you in there. I put you in the toilet mannerisms rob. You're very doing impressions and voice over overwork. You're really gonna work any way that you could. Maybe do a quick bit of your best alien alien. He did yeah the yak noise. I was gonna pull this clip but it was just too annoying but by the early burn on jack after that was it was a nice for twenty four hours. Now that guy was no stranger to the big brother twenty caveat z. lobby because he was a rachel's punishment and then he also was the grandmother or no. It was mr patacula grandmother yes yes. I'd say that this is sort of gotten lost to time but the musical number that you guys did i think they made it like in the next episode. That was really a phenomenal the magic the song like like though like the whole thing there for it. Nobody was there for the was that was that the grandma ninety a wasn't. I thought that was casey's punishment. Oh oh yes earn the same time because she was like yeah. It was casey because she had the weights. Granny was in the backyard with her walker. It's really great. I don't know you have a when you have to remember what it was called. You don't yeah we'll never gonna work. Yeah i remember that words. We'll never know for another day another day. Either clip called fethi fitness. I don't know what this is on. Ask for that. Wait look at that says you guys just go. We have a lot of clips. We will reflect life working yeah. I'm totally not go good my brain. Will you be alien autopsy guy. I know i watched it on. The feeds and with jackson getting signed coming back constantly when it used to be on t._v. What are you talking about general o. X. files and me. I'm more like i'm more fantasy less sci-fi church yeah aliens i zero thoughts on aliens here on his area for stuff going on on on on todd know someone. I'm crushing did an alien autopsy on next generation on. You probably think i'm not benoy explode right yeah. Okay exactly all different colors. Apparent author deliver all different civil. I am an alien. Somebody remove me attitude security security coming in my show your way into it yeah so entered etc in-car do so. What would you like to see that performer that i believe that his performing name is big. Dick johnson is that his eric signed zayn told me his name is okay. I will pay you have no idea. I can't imagine his name is dick. Johnson dan the look on their i._q. Says only report one told apparently and so yeah he's talking about yeah yeah the guy guy b- actor played keep up okay all right so <hes> we got to see jack. Make an effort to <hes> really a we saw the hog father tonight inaction kate. I liked that that yeah what'd what'd you think of jack's offer of four weeks of safety. I mean queue but like i am going to guarantee safety unless you literally are in control control of everyone else right brand did cliff actually consider this in the diary room. That's a real good gotta think about that. This was go play in the big brother game with the producers and giving them a little material later lead as lilly what is literally what it said our ass saying around. I don't really believe it so that was an offer he could refuse unfortunately father that was that was all right so did this thing too right right yeah. He did at least for one second finger tap at least at least for one once i can. He did that so we let's. Let's let's talk about tommy and his h h and this is really a very tricky week that we're going to go into because of we're going to have the field trip which means that. We're going to have a third nominee in play which also means that we are going to only have six people voting the next week so depending on who's up on the block. That's going to really end up tilting the scales sales will one way or another and with tommy only having a couple of allies in the house between cysts and christie and potentially nick at this point that the those that voting block of three if they are not in the on the block <hes> then they're going to have a lot of power especially if tommy is going to potentially break a tie one way or another and there's a lot of different different ways this can go sideways so since tommy is immune from the yes. I believe he's not going to so just to reset how the field trip is going to work so the america has been voting since last sunday somehow if they could find where the votes the kaelin did you vote not yeah yeah well. That's what he would vote for christie's and hall holly. Okay you gordon jackson. Did you know there's journalists. Though this journalist emma journalist est- your journalists still okay brian. Have you been voting no on a journal. That's what i haven't been voting and absolutely not anybody will tell you. Bryant is completely impartial. He's not gonna fractional. That'd be yes. That's exactly what i am. You know i it's too hard to find the page. Bread can find it i don. I am obsessed with this show. I still can't find the page. No i really don't the vote for i mean vote for jackson christie and says oh okay jack whispering now. Here's where it's save. Jack was probably somebody who was in the top three. He's gone. He's out of the mix out. Dummy is probably somebody who is in the top and now he's taken out of the mixture mr definitely s._t. So definitely christie is going to be in there and then jackson jackson. Do people know enough who cisse's <music> nikki these other people tell you that <hes> big brother network which is usually pretty accurate not always accurate site <hes> they are reporting that cliff is actually fifth in the voting right now mainly because a lot of people don't understand it like the show is targeting as you wanna. Give him safety. Do you want want to get them nominated like whether you wanna do so. It's like you know people casuals. No we liked cliff or like daylight clips so some people are stupid enough to be voting for him right. There's a in jeopardy yeah. They really don't the way that it's gonna work is that somebody is going to be safe some so they can't happy nominated. Somebody is going to get a punishment which i'm sad time. He can't get the punishment brenton interro yeah yeah and then also so we'll have that somebody is going to be on the block third nominee so whoever wins the competition they'll be safe i guess and then whoever atas wave might not be physical. No i know but i would rather just see three people that i'm like very indifferent about which are like. I don't want even the chance that he's safe safe brent. I think that this is also going to be just as important where not just who is on the block but whose get who gets to vote this week also yeah exac. Yeah nominees split over three people. Only six people are voting that it's huge just to not be on the block this week huge and also if tommy me came gather three people that he trusts and can get to work together in some fashion breaking power and not on the box right exactly if they're not on the buck. That's the prob yeah yeah so. This is really <hes> speedo step. We can't forget about that like what if you throw some people up they win. They take take him now you you doesn't have that. Many options left yeah very strasse. You're stressed out. Can i also say that. Kaitlyn also manifested this tommy h._o._a. Achieve she called it. This is her second row. That's right shanks caitlyn now in fairness. It was tommy's birthday tonight so happy happy birthday you. The rent's never hate it one more. I can't stand him. I mean maybe it's just a little bit of projection on my part but i don't feel well like i am that flamy and i feel like i'm just like bitch. Turn the flame down just a little big little appreciated she cited brands and i do appreciate you had a moment of self acknowledgement and he said projecting that was very good now. It's actually really hurt right himself. That kick that kick was aloha pumped up. He's excited <hes> he's. He's really that we do have a very the most delicious scenario scenario is that christie ends up going into this field trip and somehow that why would be incredibly incredibly delicious that if christie could end up on the block here by way of the field trip and then go out on h._o._a. It's a possibility manifestos slasher. Any money is payback for haley's h._o._a. Excited about haley's h._o._a. Hacker hacker twist don talk to me about it. I know wait chest about no no. I just seemed really. I hate okay. Most we hit him speaking of haley. She came up in this episode tonight that yes because that much like swaggie see that she was a spot on the veto board. You you see this last night. Told me oh yes yes. Yes and you had that little voice update jesse. You were one of the spots it's on the map on the b._b._c. galaxy and so was haley's comet a which caused a nick to say this since haley's comet. It's only right for me to tell you how ravishing today why thank you but i need you to cast your vote buddy jack back row totally whatever my head so funny. You should tell that party at jokes caitlyn mike okay lynn heard royce's rasping she needs. She took some cough medicine. I wanna hear your beautiful voice. Mama voice is not great in our heart. Just being bashful today sometimes are but you're not just very directional. If if you don't if you don't talk phone shy yeah good gas. Sorry yeah okay so nick. What a jokester how cassidy go hug tommy after he wanted me and it's just shows you how bad he's playing like. I mean i could tell and the house could tell that he was throwing that h h before even got off office starting line and human like oh. Can i sleep with the h h room if i don't win this. Is that okay tommy here how he was doing in each competition titian i mean it's one thing to play the middle as eric stein said last night it's one thing to play the middle and babb where everyone is is that you and tommy is aware that necas playing the middle in his not devoted to him right now so i don't think he's going to get nominated this week but tommy doesn't have everything invested diabet- nick scott one foot in that h. o. h. room already one foot foot exactly exactly has tommy. Tommy won't put him up now. No i don't think so all right so i guess let's play this this out. Okay who <hes> who will tommy put on the block. I'm thinking help put up. Maybe like a cliff and a maybe nicole but i don't really know. I don't know anything you put up call. Maybe a jess if he's villain volleyball but i guess there's two ways this could go where he targets the outsiders the people that were working against the six or there's the vengeful spiteful move which i guess we can hope happens. I know there was talk during this past week that oh it's cat and holly that are going to be on the block. If was the h. I. that'll be a chance of that but tommy he also didn't even vote against a ah jackson tonight he voted to jack was the sixth votes evict jack caitlin yeah he. Do you think he's making he's gonna make the cliff and kohl move for some reason. I don't mourn when i really don't think he's going to do it. I think that he is a smart player and now now. It's his time to make his move into shoot his shot at joan. I don't see him. I could see maybe one of them but i don't think he's going to do to the others is going for like someone someone in the middle like a cat or a neck john architecture see them putting them new. No cabin like i can see him as a replacement. But what did i say i said since nick hugged him i he's going up. There's like like oh big brother cars for every time you hog the person that wins. I should go up. He hugged. I hugged angel. Afars plan my ass on the block million the weird thing so he might go up. Maybe maybe the cat is the person who probably needs to be most worried about h h things play out in a way where tommy has control over who's going home because that's cannery henry sassy with tommy throughout this week and accused she has been avenue life invested in her manifested in her caitlyn because komo goal and she's been telling tommy like well. So why was i and clinton nicole. I'll promise six or seven place in a six person alliance when he's like oh. I don't really think about that and she knows that he's lying so and he knows that she knows that he's lying so i do think that cats and there's a good possibility she's gonna go up on the block. Also tommy is the one person who's been able to see through a lot of cliffs game. Play so i also feel like cliff doesn't end up as the nominee by way of america's field l. trip. I do think there's a chance that he could not new class. Maybe i would like nicole was safe. That would be good <hes> yeah. I think the nicole would be safe as long as she. He doesn't get nominated by tommy <hes> the one that keep in mind though even christie goes up on the block by way of america's field trip. There is not a guarantee that she's going to go home and also. I don't know what happens <music>. I'm gonna guess i can. I think this is the way it worked like during other times. They've had three nominees if like christie wins the veto. I don't think there's a replacement nominee. I think it just goes down to two you so we'll we'll see how that plays out but that could be big going even if it's one of the actual nominations and not the other if it's one of tommy's nominations i think he gets to replace. They said it's america's field trip. I think did it during the roadblock competition. If you use the veto on the third nominee who went up to by artificial means and they just come down and that's it so breath it would just be really huge to have somebody that was from the six shooters as that third nominee potentially from the field trip so hopefully if the if if the votes come through and then you can have one of those people end up being the non the nominee because if you figure that sis is not going to we on the block no matter what and then you know if christie and nick sitting out there that's enough to get the three and it could potentially you have to hope that jackson and holly and up on the side with also just in the call one thing to keep in mind that if cliff doesn't up on the block next to someone like cat obviously highly jackson. I'm i'm gonna try and keep cat but nick is aware of gender imbalance in the house right now they six to four girls two boys right now and also jessica has shown that she does not wanna put up any girls she only wants to put up guys and he has talked about that with cliffs so i think that nick who does have some sway over tommy not a ton ueli is going to exact pushing gene for him to target cat and not cliff. I think nick has a okay relationship with cliff doesn't want to see him charcoal. My only problem is if somebody from the six goes up. There's not going to be enough votes to get that person gone. That's my only problem because it'll be close. You're thinking of it. This way. Christy goes up on the block that means the tommy's down to two votes sis and maybe like doc young so then it's like well. If christie ends up on the block i think hollywood river jackson wanna get rid of her rights anybody else nicole. They would all all that would be nice. I can find four votes that would get rid of christie if she was up on the block and nicks no fan of her either although he has been better with christie in the past two days different when that person is on the block yoshimoto the vote amount as opposed on the blocks or did tell jackson holly that he wouldn't put them up even if you h but that was when he didn't have h h i still something there's a snowball's chance in hell that he might actually go after jackson because christie once jackson out of the house although she is pissed at some other people right house and even her anti-jackson feelings have dissipated a little bit brent. What do you think about a scenario where jackson ends up being the third nominee by way of the field trip with the house vote him out then or would that <hes> in some ways as end up pushing holly back to the tommy six shooter side of the house and hey. We have to save jackson. We have to get out wherever tommy's other nominees minis are. It just depends on what tommy is pushing because if it's three nominees on the block and they all three stand the way into the week that means that tommy is going to have some tiebreaking power our up some say in respect the h h which they always say in the house. I don't know it's very hard to predict what's going to happen. I think the jackson could go home as consistent insistent consensus boots for everybody but especially when it's gonna be very tempting for christie if jack's on the bach and you have a free shot to get him out or are you really going to pass pass that up when he's been coming for you and you know that you would have been nominated by him if he had won h._o._a. Himself i i i think that's going to be tough for her to pass up now. We had the <hes> great luck tonight to have bailey here for the h. Competition which was the same one and you wanted to grow twenty consec citing time guy. That was exciting. Yes what is the secret to that h. Challenge honestly it's body weight so i think that both of us have kind of the same background like a yogi balancer. He's a dancer and we're used to just like holding your body weight so you have to just be able to stay centered then when you see yourself. Aren't you just all your affect. Not that hard. Honestly just like my weight was perfect for it. I didn't do anything special. Yeah cap was really playing it up like oh my god. I don't know what's going what's happening. I don't know what i'm doing that definitely yes. Yes yes kaelin. I don't think that's gonna work this week. Though i think i think tommy's onto cat and also interesting why does the dumb girl persona part of the time but then like all throughout this week. She's been like a new cat in the house and other people have noticed buddhist tommy playing it. She's playing it up because i know cat and i always say this cat was big. You know her pat when you know her know her cat. That was a baylor girl. I'm a baylor girl girl. I'm going to school at the same time each other. We ran into each other. She has like each other. She's not that dumb this game now now. We haven't hung out yeah. I agree. She's not that job as a very interesting education and now and hadn't girls we. We can act very that see but we're not yeah okay. You know holly now. I didn't know how okay all right so we got a teaser. He's for the upcoming week also and i think a lot of us were expecting next week to be double eviction thursday. Typically julie will tell us a week ahead of time you know double vision and is it possible that we're just gonna have one yeah. I think it is just wasn't a double victims. Look into the fourth resident jury last year so debris. How how many do we have last season that we had the one where where bob brett went out. That was the in britain here. It was just one okay but we got to 'cause. They were counting on someone to do this puzzle though so well so it all right so but you know we really should have been saying. I'm gonna give it to swaggie no. I'm saying it should have been sam the first i night oh okay all right jack. You say there are regrets right da- yeah. There are no regrets. Live your life with absolutely no regrets like you're allowed to have. That's right you're supposed to no you're like actually not so you're supposed to you're not supposed to be perfect like i do silly things all the time and if i want to be like no i like perfect yeah but no it's not that it's just like the growth that comes comes from it so like you're supposed to like not coaching session. Okay okay right. Private times is good stuff so understood what you mean because he wants to say no regrets what he is trying to say is like. I don't want to give back the growth that i think that i got from that but you can have regrets influence shape the grow address them. We need to address something. That's like the elephant in the room right now. Okay what is it your top. Your black blouse call the blah blah i different shirt on and we had an audible right before the start of the show and i have a closet full of shirts here in the studio to be able to switch between podcast very quickly. Kaelin picked out this this sherpur me and honor honor of honor of the watermelons and the house being smashed by the alien eyebrow honor of gallagher alligator. Yes fat heart so on brand tonight. We just thought that was a cool moment in fact he's on brand everyone every i don't know how a white t shirts. I'm brown and don't come from me. He's talking about. I've got another clipper alien for you palin <hes> so this was when jack was brushing his teeth. This was one of the things the abrash back now is so funny. I was kind of shocked at that. You have the clips where he's just like making sound. The people not like that if i had like i <music> this was another line that i liked tonight that i always learn new expressions in the big brother house this was i made a flaw. Everyone made a floor yeah. I think that's just a twenty one thing. I don't think you're flaw he. Did you make any flaws in the twenty. Yes woah. We all dead made by right. He make off off today. They make a flaw like like the bottom of the room. Yeah no that's law in the flaws. These little flaw the worst punishment of one mellon it before we get into the questions here tonight. Let me say thank our sponsor for subsurface those our friends over at purple mattress and purple ripple they understand that your attitude and your ability to be happy and productive depends on your ability to get a good night's sleep. That's why they make the have not room so uncomfortable. No purple mattresses up there in the have not room in camp comeback. 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That's in addition to the great free gifts. They're offering site-wide just text rob two eight four eight. The only way to get the free pillow is text text. The word rob the eight or eight eight eight that are o._b. Two eight four eight message and data rates may apply <hes>. Let's bring in some questions brench shaking his head okay. Let's let's you guys. I'm just like the hearing all right all right <hes> <hes>. Let's see wow wow production hate analysts that much thoughts on this yeah. I'm surprised okay so all right right so i'm surprised you know big brother that the fan base we love conspiracy theorists would have been smarter for for the storm area fifty one people to wait. 'til after big brother season is over as nobody loves conspiracy theories like the big brother audience share. She has to be over the line. Y'all okay but but i mean if you look at this picture though is over the one okay well. Let's what needs to be over the line and she does like her person. I would assume on like when i won. I was all the way past the line like my whole life tv. I think it'd be hard to art uh-huh. Do they have sensors yeah. I don't know i don't know exactly how you guys would say. I did say this. I called analysts is winning h._o._a. I was like this isn't gonna win but i'll go but that's okay all right well. Let's fine people that found this picture of cysts with the time of nine point zero seven fine tommy crossing the finish line. Let's see even more okay all right. Let's take another question. Vallon wants no mention of the double victory for jerry buyback tonight. We assume that means we are done with jack us. Here's here's what you can work with jack the way that they dragged him tonight jewish. That's the only a goodbye message. Yes yes which you you know. Julie did not have a great transition with telling jack about why he didn't get to see his goodbye messages. Yes all right. Let's see guber. Guber schwartz says i know how how ethic would it be. There was a picture of christie in one of tommy's h. o. h. photos it would be pretty epic pictures that closely brent shades of derek getting pictures of him in copy uniform and big brother sixteen. I think it would be funny but i think they're well aware of this connection with tommy and christie's so there's no chance i a bit his aunts might end up in a picture as a wink wink and then you know it's up to christie is she can keep that secret and she's gonna flash for for it. Though i would want it to like like the year so i would like to see i really should all right. Let's see t._v. Lauren who says <hes> production just trolls tommy and gives them tons of pictures of his ad exactly <hes> yeah. That's the same same idea okay they the. I asked the same thing what does s. k. D. one four three sharon kelly dan. Oh i love you yeah. Daniel sharon daniel brent that's beeper code right. I couldn't tell you wrong yeah. Okay all right all right for my bobby. Carl wants is not the best look for julie to tell jack that he didn't get gypped on goodbye messages after him as his racially insensitive comments. Now that's not that's not great heard heard that and then not maybe maybe you'll join moon that says a lot of her own issues that <hes> yes. I literally don't even know what that yeah. <hes> gypped. It's a term for short for the term. Genuine rains literally but i don't know why i believe it's a i don't want to believe it's the roma remind people <music>. I'm not sure but that's okay. It's not good okay all right all right wariness. Every single awareness alex g says why is it that love island gets its own app for the audience vote in big brother. Thank you so hard. They even find where to vote the only reason twist or a._f._p. Is because it's complicated. I won't what i will say that. Since we were on like the love island like sat and stuff they came with the different social media team because they're from a different country we inherited love island and they have a different social crazy yeah yeah so we don't watch every part of the big promotion yes but they don't we'll have the same social media teams so maybe this was the new social media team or a different one there. That'd be a good idea all right so this is from. This is <hes> taurine you think the three nominees might end the week with vote to save. That's why it's a double fiction fiction choose to this happening. Era likes to pump up their double addiction live. I have episodes like it's a big event for them. There's no way that jewish not gonna talk about it this thursday in this slide it in next thursday. There's that is that is crazy. Talk okay hi. This is jennifer laney bay how was steve harvey and family feud now. That was very interesting right right the u._s. You're on with your family is free big brother. Yeah we found it like maybe two weeks before. I left our big brother and it was awesome. Actually i did. I know i was going to get a husband out of this but steve was like literally beautiful. Can i introduce you. My son like i literally obsessed with you and then i was like yeah sure j._k. Steve i'm kind of taken by yeah yeah. Oh sorry sorry of that. How how was that fun. Oh my god south on like it was so nerve racking to play in every frigging speed round on an obviously. I wasn't that good of it for people who i was like freaking out and i could not get my words out but we want some money so now that's good. That's good all right. I'm link twenty five and what we're a family of five split it like after that you can five feet which was down to like four which like i said my mom's in spending three seconds. It wasn't that much yeah okay. All right. Gain has a question why why did rob sooner lead jackson aka mickey choose his shirt tonight. No i did not let jackson i choose. My shirt wasn't okay. Let's point fingers. I will say that it was not jackson influence. It was more the the alien work that was done tonight out. There was a lot of watermelon smashing on the flaw so you know in if a few as us and last week again there's a lot of vegetables. A lot of fruit work happening this season and decide to stay in a lot of produce action on brand young. Yes isn't an owed to jack owed to produce. We also had an ode to another thursday night tv character uh of the past from nicole tonight. Please catch your vote tour victory though to just jack shout <music> out kaylin. You don't know who that is from willing gray's well. Yes i was told but is a show that i should be going back and watch. It's an actual show. It's like a show within a show will and grace the there was a character named jack. He was like the gay best friend of the main character who also gay but like jack was the really flamy one and he had his own like he couldn't get a job job. I as i recall in acting so he just made up his own. One man show called just check. It sounds like have you ever seen that show. Never it's great show and every time like that. His name would come up he would he wouldn't answer jack he would go just hack and it became so there was a cute little bit for it was surprised we haven't heard this season okay. I have to say i'm funny funny. I was weird young. I'm funny tiny. You look ravishing tonight yet. It yeah okay honey honey. I know caitlin. I don't know how you feel about this like. I feel like there's an outside shot of nick winning this game just just because like no one's really coming for me. Blame the middle a but at night game in the middle and i do feel like that it <hes>. He's got a better chance of winning so we'll see my son. Anything's possible. I might basel. I will say that out of everyone left act. I can think of a situation that would be worse than than winning of course. I'm trying to say as positive as possible. What would be what would be. The worst case scenario suggest winning survey is not yet. Another nickel has no chance of winning. I'm sorry to lease wins big big brother twenty one we are. I bow down like this joe we are but who do you think she was wrong. Who who do you think that's left. The quota point deserves to win it in the morning. Yeah who that's left deserves to win out. Who do you think cliff jessica i. I don't think that i do i think at least one of them is at least one yeah or do within the votes in the jury house have to sway their in their direction and i don't know if they will. I don't know i see it happening. Okay you see winning u._c. U._c. sys- winning happening i see i see one of the people that's on the six shooters. Yeah okay if nicole's and pinal too. I think that people would vote our <hes>. I think every time we go for class are getting far yeah. I'm telling you six. I ah jessica's got a chance to win. Well really does if believably after she won and veto this week and got out of big targets people oh not coming forward not yeah okay all right. Let's across from gregory. Mcbain hugh take requests for manifesting things caitlyn caitlyn. If so i'd love to memphis christie going home on tommy's h h because the field trip. I think it would be delicious. Yeah then now account is caitlin dash harman harman. I tax return. I was like what did you call me yeah. No if you want me i'll put it in my players. Okay all right all right. Let's go to mr anybody taryn. Do you think that given even the ads you. Jack realizes how screwed he is. When he gets out of the house i think he did because this is what he said at the end of the interview to any future big brother hopefuls and it's like nothing you'll ever do in life if you if you guys get the opportunity don't in the way yeah that really surprised julie to allah from the audience yeah. I was really surprised also at the the enthusiasm louisiana some of the audience when john came out. I was convinced that it would be a bit of a silent no. They won't let them do that. They do that around more. I mean people can feel cobbing. I mean they're big. Brother live tape. That's such as dumb rule because what why why make the audience cheer for somebody and then it's like oh and now we're going to play harba. Comair says well why did you maybe because for this person i didn't want to. I love when you act like you're so this. Is you playing the part of the general oughta. Maybe they wanted to clap yeah. Maybe they wanted to hand. You just rose if you're listening to the martin us rob as we have to see if we hear from anybody that was at the show okay all right. <hes> big brother wicky wants to know gotta ask rob. How many people can you fit in that room. I mean i think we have more room to fit people in. It's a it's a matter matter what we only have three chairs. That's one thing a second is will run out of microphones at some point yeah yeah so just too much too much too much and that's like this is great. I love this this is this can't do more than this move. This is great. Okay <hes> all right. Let's take a dad bringing the whole pre jury next caitlyn bob you would be. I take it back yesterday. I said the big brother twenty should have a reunion with andy. Cohen is the host. I've never ever taken something back more my life. We need to host all right well. I need you in a nice velvet chair in the middle of a banquet hall and every two long long chairs on the sides and you have everyone in gowns and suits and everyone's gonna come and play their part. We're busy that day. If you're busy then everyone wants to do it because we're all busy that day sequined account and a positive attitude so all right. Tim has a question okay. What did kaitlyn get for dinner. Rob owed her so that's a good question because i was text. I started texting kaitlan nine o'clock this morning and i said caylin order dinner when he want. What what do you want. What what what what else say order so. I said bob did actually say this. I'm on a monster. Two beautiful children wife like not have to buy me dinner like it was all in good fine. No no no come on yeah. Nothing me. I'm not gonna let you buy me dinner. He's hurt but you you requested dinner last week. Gap butter was all in good fun. See like i would have brought eugen arm but then it comes down to like your father. You have a beautiful home. You have children to take care of no all right well. I will if you ever won anything. If you ever want refreshments at the show i will get them for you. Okay fine okay. I'll read it. I'll read a comment from jason. Beast swaggie heats caitlyn it so obvious guys we. We love each other exactly my home. Also we've done. I will say it's impossible to catch every but i feel like we've done a pretty good job of police in the comments and there's a lot of love for you guys in a chat tonight right yeah okay all right what else what else we need to talk about <hes> as we head into the new week so how much you're not a weird night as concerned behind you. You need a music interlude for this raw segment. I don't know was like <hes> what sort of unless unless swaggie ability to perform some paying ever seen such beauty luna six seven eight mile chinese okay. I'm ready for the ars right. You wanna slow jam. The -noth- actual yoga it shocked san looks better with the assets. I wonder who's boys is calling out for jackson then to do. The aliens thing cliff has a cute alien thing by me. I choose to cast the alien berbie twenty jackson drinking coffee during the commercial break up. How heavy is this thing on. Tom us head. We're chrissy could've could've been the alien with those funds on her head. I'm jack fucking. Matthews relax has shout hog bother other jackets trying way to hard holy shit this interview with julie. It is loose auditor kayla notes. That's great sleep. Mickey actually looked like really decent with the glasses on when he was being the scientist. I thought that was like a smarter way caitlyn. He wasn't wearing any underwear when that was happening that the tire twenty four hours because they called him into the room when he wasn't wearing underwear and then they put many jacket and the glasses and you couldn't take it off so he wasn't willing to take mhm dory where he wears the odor down their branch line. That's what the alien was now when he was talking about. Do you use the hairbrush or the toothbrush other reach into your regions really at that in some of the stories. I've heard from those guys then you better hope not exactly better hope not really quickly. Just two you quick things about this week. We talked about it before. Jack did try his quote. Unquote blackmail plan with cats to try to get her to flip her votes. If you've been listening to us all week and taryn during the morning updates jack had this great plan he thought to black male cat into flipping her vote based on the fact that she knew that clip is going to get voted out out of the week that clinton nicole around the block but she voted with the minority anyway to get intel for them which he thought would cause just to jessica to have some doubts about cats loyalty cliff knew about her head of time he warned cat and basically she laughs it off. The other thing to keep in mind is talking about on the morning update. I know we're all worried about the christie you see tommy says you know remnants getting together and having power but the real power in the house right now is the jackson holly cats jessica a group <hes> and if tommy does take a shot at cats it doesn't seem like it now but if you're rooting for nicole or cliff <hes> doubt or even jessica that would actually it'd be good to get out of the house to weaken than portion of the house because right now. He may not see it but there they really have a lot of control yup. Now don't get blinded by the comments focus on what's really i'm present. I listen to you. I'm good yeah. I got everything out a brent for jessica though i know we're all impressed with the job she did this. We i don't think <hes> one second of airtime other than when they showed her backyard. Here's the thing look. She got airtime sunday as she got all of wednesday mom's texting me about justice estimates range from so i mean i'm taking we can get plus. We got jack roasted. Did that julia or some really hot close to do it into like she didn't. She has been looking lately. She'll tonight yeah. The dress was looking. It looked tour runway alright now legit last week. She was spiderman guitar in the minutiae with us maggie diesel associate yet yours treating anything okay us code his if you wanna know about socks goes d._m.'s what yeah right his email ah what's the best way to reach swaggie for <hes> the agassi f._x. Page so go and follow okay. I little your fun every fan right so that was a heartache right on all right. Let's say about what's coming up on robin's podcasts and then we'll have to want to all right. Let's talk about what's coming up af episode two hundred special <music> myself. Danny and tyson got together live and talked about everything that's going on. Have you heard about the new thing going on about your number neighbor edberg caitlyn. Have you number neighbor yet. How we did you see the did you see the number neighbor thing with the girl that was answering someone <unk> and was like hi. Is this whatever she was like. No this is patrick. Did you see that this is patrick. J k ama. Oh it's whatever and then who's who does that. You're back like this is dr whatever and it was like for her interview tomorrow like a doctor's office as she was like and then she and and then all of a sudden transition choose yes. This is loren. I promised my funny number number neighbors me love love island winner interviewers interview with the winner of love island. Check that out a are half ups feed. We also will have taryn aaron live in a break from from caitlyn. Hold on hold on breaking news. You paid me five dollars. This one's for manifesting christie. Going rob has august five dollars. I'm going to bank these okay. I'm just doing it. They celebrate celebrate five dollars dollars live during the state in an again so okay all right so h. Tomorrow morning's join taryn live for the update. What's tommy gonna do. During saturday sunday as well on the live feed update. Eh swindler is going to be here in the studio on sunday night. You guys can write a note lee leaving leaving her then mohur. Okay there you go of course all this excitement and craziness made possible by the people that then mo caitlyn infested and also from the patrons of rob as a podcast find out more about everything we're doing behind the scenes at rob has a podcast with our patriot podcast cast feed and much more in the facebook groups are rob has a website dot com slash patron honestly wasn't on on this show like and i was just a fan you would be a patron one thousand person. I literally my friends and i said why. Are you not a patriotair. That's how we do it. That's how we do all these shows. It's your show. Also we have on the e._s._p._n. Of like big brother given your own common and a lot to say. I don't know much about seasons. I'm very quiet but like i have everything say about robinson pocket. Let's give you could go zoom zooming in closer okay all right. Let's go back to normal. I used to spend a lot of time on twitter and like i literally followed like everybody and i know who's like bias who sticks to like gameplay. I watch e._s._p._n. They don't come people's personal lives. A lot of podcasts will no go into our personal life or the house as personal life and jump on events happening in in like dude like the worse. It's like with him like you said it's a journalist. He's really the journal like he doesn't do anything crazy. This whole studios professional is literally e._s._p._n. Of big brother and if you want your voice you have to come by the bar. Wow wow i really only once. I'm quite happy here. Have you know i don't know about the season but i'm i'm happy to be. Rob has a podcast like i. I wish i had done last year when i had a lot to say about this one but i love her now. Though okay okay wow i legitimate happy. We did you ever not love you. Yes you sh- okay. I'm i'm here. You say that 'cause rob rob works. Zaza watched pay attention to everything i know you do. Oh rob is also just like he's the best friends in the world like the fact that okay we can't get into. I get literally cry about it. Don't cry don't cry. Do you have something this is like. When jack gave his speech was saying nice things that everybody else in the house that's feels like even had this to say about sis sys fifty one days gang and how i've learned all the little things about you this when you scare people you almost pay yourself yeah. I said robert seizure if i if i give you one of my shirts yes yes yes yeah. I gotta kaelin. All of the collection okay look at the caitlyn all all right so in other words on talking. We're going to be so lifted tonight in the back of my head stuck. It'd be able to fit through the door fight. Tommy's helmet yes. Can you believe it. This is the worst punishment okay all right so what else we have to do here tonight anything. Do you have a performance. Do i have the performance. Let me sing <hes> bailey swaggie. Where where can we check out everything that you guys doing literally everything on my instagram so i can see t._v. Hers bay day our youtube sway the gang. She has her own youtube. <hes> there's just like we constantly update. Every everybody live like anybody asks the question. We're really flat out honest about everything that goes on so i follow youtube is daily daily but my bridal shower is next week now. We're doing a bridal shower video on the siding. When is the wedding no we we we rented this no issues or anything but it's literally like aggressive plan weddings and aggressive. I'm <music>. I'm like whoa like. I can't invite seventeen hundred people i mean it just likes burgers tony little bit. They'll help you go. We know you have to say. What are you what you're saying. Oh that's what i'm saying we were talking to a few networks about our wedding and there was one recently that we had deals in the work with. We might with a sweeter deal so that that's what i said. We'll give you rather pockets a lot. Okay yeah me too. I'm gonna have a reading. The works works with so networks are coming my way and just like oh. It's really all the men would be like caitlyn when you marry me. You're you're right now. He's dealt with was he like popcorn arnold. Come on one out of twenty. One people commented on your beauty. You know what i think. It is is is i. I really think beautiful that no no. I think it's when people are. I think i'm a different type of girl. I think like i'm an acquired taste and and if you think that i'm like funny and witty and charming like you're all in but then there's other people that are not rather have a girl. That's a little more not as aggressive as you so if you're lanez than you feel me twenty four. I'm a fan of essential. Aw i love ready with me is on i do. I know where she's going. Don't do it in this over all right before i get off the edge actually one more question for them because they're never going to be here. Okay i mean you don't know that i'm not sure why prudential do anything you want to ask them and literally anything. No no no. I don't wanna do that. You you know he's on it could be if you could be stuck in a room in an elevator with one of these three people for three hours who would be now. You said three people taryn brenton melissa people from my season. Oh controversy season. We don't need to make anything controversial. You have swaggie here and swaggie. Has this question it's just who would you be interesting. Okay fire interview chestnuts. Sorry sorry three people okay. I don't wanna go there okay. You have to choose one three hours in an elevator. The following people are the s. Those people are going to be the choices. Oh my god can i go twenty eighteen s. c. j. c. nikki easy easy 'cause like us my boy at one point in time so burn our for three hours or elevated come out as friends would be good. Come out as like our understanding everything we now happen because i literally i amount like last week but like an elevator for three hours and then it's like what were you thinking then. It's like oh trip so it wouldn't. I think that you really don't anyway. I need to go there. We're having a nice time. The we have love in life outside. Honestly this whole podcast thing is just making me becomes. I'm gonna i'm not. He wanted to close us out with a with another song. Please hold on hold on. Check your again and uh-huh oh wait. I got another run now. We showed me. You're paying for dinner. Thanks assist out any paid me who sandy we did. You know that you said detroit again. It's that i got insanity paid me. I'm sorry i need the music. Okay okay all right all right here. We go wasn't josh sammy five dollars. One cents sapping nothing. I may have eleven dollars one sunday. You're <music>. Thank you so much for coming in okay. Yes thank you this. This was this was this incredible. This is gray. I had no idea i saw it on a schedule but i had no idea it was gonna be. You guys who i love really glad that it was a nice good old time. Okay we'll be back for sure. <hes> next time i come back for sure was on thursday. We'll hit and rob right. They might be moving here so okay or not. Okay all right brian fine. Thank you very much scott c._p._r. Behind the scenes they already have a good night. Tonight's big brother recap is sponsored by our friends over at truecar. Every car comes the sheriff stories like that danger bumper. When you never see pick up your first date that luxury package you got through a big promotion or the miles you save by riding your bike all summer long l._a. 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"Holy cow holy cow oli cow. I was going to tell you that <hes> all about big brother how the game is played what it is <hes> but i have so many notes from the last episode this shelby quin your best friend here on the other big brother podcast now on the non dash productive dot com will not work <hes> and we <hes> i. My mind is blown misses. The episode that i've been waiting for this is where it could all will happen of course big brother has away making you feel like it's all going to go well and then to pull the rug out hundred feet so fingers crossed what is big brother. Well show on c._b._s. It comes out every summer <hes> it's been on for about a thousand years and they <hes> essentially they take a lot of people. It's kind of like remember that show on m._t._v. the real world. It's kind of like that where what happens when you take all these people when you put him in the house and things get real real. It's kind of like that but it's kind of not like that because it's not real at all because the whole point of the game is there's a line people get together and then they vote people out and there's competitions wacky competitions and there's food competent does not really food companies wacky competitions. Sorry i was distracted. <hes> here's the thing it's a fun show. It's <hes> it's my guilty. Pleasure is my summer guilty pleasure. I've been watching it for years. I a held off for years. My wife is watching it and then i was off. I know watching. I watched and i was like i'm hooked. I want to be on big brother nice break. Neil family not really because i love my family <hes> all right. That's what it is. We're they get the people people <hes> i guess admit tapes and then they also i've heard they casting managers. Go to bars in l._a. And pick up beautiful people. I don't know i would know about that life so here. We are day forty tour. The first thing we see is mickey in bed with holly in the h. Room and he repeats the line from the last episode inherent sets in what does this mean. We're outside and stay forty four four hours and eighteen minutes before fiction. Do you remember the last episode juliet said so much happened. During this episode right before the eviction that we couldn't even put it into because it was it was houses flip flopping back and forth we have time one four hours and eighteen minutes eighteen minutes like they knew exactly when this was going on mickey jacker in the bulls room mickey. You've got to watch out for christy and tommy jack at big. Maybe you're getting some bad intel and <hes> jack's like i trust trust is in the d._r. Trust tommy and christie more than i trust mckee at this point and in this room mickey says in this conversation he can't and holly knew each other outside the house so he gives us jack right so very important point because it's whoa this is the word alu up than we have. Jack and tommy and jack says that he trusts a boutros-ghali. I tally and and tommy and then he says ali wait sir and i. I messed it. All up dog was barking at me so so jack says that <hes> <music> sorry. I was distracted by my dog barking a letter out now. She's happy and could go back and edit it but why have no time for that. At six pages of notes so jack doesn't trust mickey and holly <music> tells tommy that cat and holly knew each other out of the house and they knew jackson to tommy's like i knew i knew i knew i knew tommy tree out he could trio. Here's a main words this episode trio as one of the main ones and so then they're like you. Gotta flip with this game. You're gonna flip this game and get rid of cat. We can't have this trio thing happen. It got over in canton. So at this point sam's gonna be safe and so then i'm kristie comes in and she's like the six a no more than no more. I'm not gonna do with a trio and tommy's pushing to flip the vote. He's going around. He's gonna flip vote so at this point cat is gonna be going home right three three hours and sixteen minutes which i loved it. They gave me the exact minute <hes>. I guess maybe some people go back in the live feeds and find it if they want to. I don't know so if tommy analysts were flipping. The vote would get rid of the cat. Analysts is wearing some sort of a trash bag. I asked i was like what does she wiser trash bag. The wife and she shoot wouldn't look at the television as she's wearing a trash bag on right now. She dying her hair and she's a guy. Maybe there's like i ask you questions. People need to know people are wearing trash bags but her hair was wet so i'm gonna go with there being some sort of a hair treatment going on not important to the show. Oh non-ford anything so while tommy analysts are talking about flipping. The vote holly's outside the room. She may also be wearing a trash bag but i'm not sure no. She's not and <hes> so she's listening eavesdropping on this whole thing. Holly runs away to tell mickey. Mickey goes <hes> back to the bull's eye room with analysts and and and tommy and he's like <hes> he's trying to play cool <hes> so catch still the person to keep times like yep yep plans saw happen yup yup and like it's a very awkward weird conversation and it's not super comfortable but that's okay because i feel like tommy i mean and they didn't do a good job lying and maggie. He says such a goalie. He's sitting there. He's like all right so this is where we are gonna things like yeah. This is where we are mickey mickey. You're so fine. I'd be so fine. If you left the house hey mickey get out a emeke. Get out run the kitchen kitchen holly to <hes> tommy flipping. Are you flipping. Are you flipping and tommy don't know so. There's a lot of you know like the the fracture is there. The break is real because you had tommy saints things to christie into into analysts and to jack got mickey and collie running around trying to get the information from their groups which should be opened information and they're not getting any the answers so there's people freaking out. We got <hes>. There's some some fish feeding going on which i didn't know. The house fed their own fish. It's kind of nice jiaxi. He's even wearing a glove while he feeds sufficiency of opperman feeding the fish and <hes> mickey says to jack don't just don't and jackson. I what what who don't what acting all dom and <hes> there's a lot of staring smoldering staring intense conversations mickey's like come on man jackson commandment and then <hes> macy's like what are you gonna do. Why are you going to do this tax. I why would we flip and mickey's like i don't know and jack psych exactly exactly and there's no reason if you don't know then clearly we're not flipping which is the same tactic that uses with other people but it's fun to now see being used on mickey where it's this mind game like. I'm gonna let you set up the argument. I'm gonna let you get the answer you want and then i'm gonna say that thing to make. You convinced that i did the thing that you just said that. We're on the same page even though i didn't really say it so. I'm not really lying but you are so it's fun. It's really makes me happy to see these two doing the same thing. They were doing everybody else in the house we jobber grit our two minutes two hours and four minutes minutes away from the action from the nomination. Excuse me from whatever it is from the vixen yet. I'm going crazy. Feel like i'm selling used cars. That's crazy him going so holly to tommy in the boat room holly listen. I'm just gonna come clean. I heard you guys talking unanimously talking tommy listen. I just don't feel safe with a six then. Tommy's like i don't feel safe around six and how it was like why what what tommy's like jackson and told us that you and cat know each other outside the house. All of you see our trio. Keep saying trio trio trio. Trio is allies like can't even fathom. She's a dog. Her mouth is open. She's like what no what no each other. Why do you even say that. Don't even true i don't know i don't know these. People and jack walks holidays like i'm mad. This is my h. H and i feel like i'm being left out of all information. Then mickey walks in what the bleep this is going on in here. Jack says she feels left out that she's upset she. She's being left out. It's very h then christie walks inches. Like what am i even welcoming here and there's like holidays like you know what. Let's hash this out right now was doing. I'm doing great so then annelies comes at the christie's like what is your. What is your problem with me. What is your problem and mickey's like do you. They wanna get loud. I can get loud and then she's like you. Wanna yell at a girl cool. I'm not yelling right now but if that's what you're move is then go ahead and do and there's like there's no more six moving forward. We are splitting. We're done six or breaking up and then they go outside and you see nick outside the door like woo hoo then the other side you see <hes> cliff ingest listening and it's just like <hes> and cliff yeltsin says nicole six or done on you know they're breaking up and we have a cliffs like i said i said if we just waited long enough that the six it's a break-up eventually this the couples were not going to stay together. They you know <hes> for fractures there fishers there were breaks so here's the thing i am. I am all in. I am ready for this. I'm ready for this game to flipped on its head and for things to would be different but again they brother finds a way to sometimes show you the life pathway and then rip it out from under your feet however i will. We'll say that now that we are at veto veto at the jury house. That's a completely different game so i'm kind of excited about that can't and if it i think there's eleven people laughed and said that means you know as far as numbers get one of them's h. o. h. wjr to of them around the block then you have a four and four vote so if he had mickey and holly i guess it depends on who goes up in the episode mickey holly go. I don't know all i'm saying is things are looking good. Things are looking very good and i was also thinking. Can you about it. How many guys we have jack jackson nick cliff and tommy okay this more than i thought i was. I was hoping i like women win. <hes> so <hes> see here so jack starts yelling christie. You guys know each of you guys know each other outside inside the house. You know each other christie's mickey. You were the rogue vote the hinky vote. You didn't tell anybody you say you're part of this group. You say that you're doing everything you didn't even tell us the you were the the rogue vote your other thrown nicole under the bus and he's like i did that for team. I did that for all of us it. There's a chance that analysts and holly real on the block. They're worried were to word your gun on the block. Did that for you to be <music>. I swear called me my phone ring on the ipad every the dog's eating balloons trying to i saved a lot happening so i apologize my favorite episode and is being cut into three times now <hes> so christie's mickey's about coffee whereas he's like just 'cause you got any coffee this morning. Don't and then you go and bad mouth me. He's like a guy you call because i saw you crying. What what i can't buy you coffee coffee. You know and same thing. It is a game but i think you know when you're in this alliance and people are getting nervous because maybe they're going to go on the block of their games. Kim blown up people might not be enacting super nice. There's a lot going on right now so tommy's like all right guys all right all right. He's definitely placate like he's like mom dad. Why are we fighting. Let's and then <hes> micky like hits the wall like this garbage average dude garbage but i'm a family friendly podcast for the most part so he storms out in all the floaters who are in the kitchen so it's like nick and cliff and nicole and jess in this i think cows other to this kind of scattered because like he's leaving trusted you jack and and jack slams the door behind mickey so as crazy <hes> one hour and forty minutes before the eviction cat jack comes in and she's crying thomas talking about the trio and jackson stopped talking and you guys know each other you three of you know each other and cats like but we don't and we don't know each other as did you guys go to some concert together. They were like no. We were at the same concert but we didn't know each other like that happens all right. Some big concert was and christie's like jackson snake snake and can't cry is like i don't wanna know home. I don't even know what's happening right now. What is what is happening. I don't wanna go christie's like cat. I don't want you to go home but after all this who knows who knows kind of everybody's sam man. I'm out of breath so i'm gonna go to my sponsored segment. Maybe have a spot not take a deep breath. Plunges do some stretches. I am shelby. Quinn is the other big brother. Podcast and things are finally heating. Oh boy hey this is show the host of the other brother podcast and i'm here to talk about anchor. Did you know that anchors the easiest way that you can make a podcast. It gives you everything you need for free in one place for free again which can do right from your phone or your computer. <hes> the creation tools allow you to record and edit your podcast so it sounds great will distribute the podcast ask for you so it can be heard everywhere that spotify apple podcast google podcast and many many other places and you can easily make money from your podcast ask with no minimum listenership. So how do you do this. Just download the anchor app or go to anchor dot f._m. To get started arted do it <music>. Welcome back to the other big brother podcast. I am shelby. Quin your best friend and i. I have relaxed a little bit but not enough because i'm still excited. Cliff is now in the bathroom with jessica jess. What do we do cliff. I don't know i want your opinion. I wanted you know we got to figure this out right. Khanum suggests going home injustice kind of stairs. I don't remember if it was kind of off in the distance or adder who was weird an injustice kind of goes. I don't know they don't even know we're like an hour. Whatever from addiction people don't even know what's going to happen. That doesn't happen on on the show. You've got it all locked in so sam has done a great job of blowing everything so we're in the pantry. Mckean hollier in there mickey will obviously i can't trust jack and she's like i told you that he's i can't trust him to go da and he gets all mad. I mean this dude gets so pissy pissy so quick and you know he can just people bully people but if anything anyone said anything against anything he's saying she's like da like relax and he's like don't you kick me when i'm down due to settle saddle title saddle saddle making relax mickey and the d._r. I love jack by trust him really okay. Okay good christie. Tommy jack mickey holly annelies wise making their sister. Ann mckee is in there kristie. I don't think cats should go. Tommy psych was trying to figure things out like we do this. Then this will happen. We sam home does happen and he's trying to like really like he's trying to find a common ground and be like maybe maybe the things aren't as bad as they seem. Maybe we're just having a rough day. Maybe just like we planned initially. We have our six six and we said that people are going to go out to work with the other people to try to take heat off the six fizi might decide alliances but may not real silences. Mickey <unk> starts yelling for how things he's done for the for the group holly just gets up and leaves. She's she's out and mickey's. I told jack on day two on day two that i thought that holly captain which other i told you this jackson yeah but today you did that on day a tube then today when you said it you sound different came out of your mouth different which i don't even know what that means it means that somebody got into jack's ear and said that's something and so now when mickey said it again it click differently. I don't know who knows if he said how. I don't know they know each other. They know l. each other like how do you say that differently. It's the same phrase so <hes> subject freaking out mickey's freaking out and jack psych. I'd be out of my ever loving mind to send a trio to the jury house but we're already jury after this vote so it's true okay so he's thinking give it a cat and then we'll bring up the trio. Got it okay and nikki's like the pro. I told you date to trio day. Toot trio day to these are the words that are thrown around and mickey's like i would have taken a bullet for you in this game jackson. Take one for you too but as jazz mickey leaky leaves the room so good so good you know sat all good. Is it saying it's all good begin here in his voice. It's not a good bra are august so we're not gonna be sharing cucumbers again anytime soon as saying remember that this is ever a several episodes ago mickey's walking around the house eating a whole cucumber cover which is discussing it himself and then he walks over to jack who sit on the couch and jack dickson giant by another number. What would he doing so i'm gonna pickled sa- cucumber engrossed guests then jackson christie. We gotta keep cat. Listen gotta keep cat christie's. Dyke cat wants jackson out or use cat to get rid jackson to get rid of mickey and then twenty seven minutes before toward the eviction cats. Gotta stay is just a lot of who i mean. These people running from room to room jack jack leans over to sam who's sitting on the block stacks on the couch and he goes sorry which i've never seen before and anytime i've ever watch big brother. I've never seen like telegraphed that hard of what's about to happen. Sorry so at that point you know okay decisions made and we already knew the nine zero vote from last episode and we saw sam when he's giving a speech say daddy's coming home so he did know oh but now we see you could pull the threads a little bit you get to see how he found out which i find to be pretty darn interesting so now we're in the backyard jack psych. Everybody's gone in for this h. competition. Everybody wants it so now. We've time jumped. We've gone past the fiction. He's like everybody wants to wage because nobody way knows who's gonna do what so this is very important in cliffs same basic thing. This crazy house has blew up. It's every man for himself. Tommy's like chaos who runs among us chaos is running among us so we are in camp expo which last episode i think is the campaign quote. I wasn't sure because it didn't sound right but that's what it's called camp expo kind of a weird name sometimes their names are cute funding for this makes no percents anyway <hes> so basically you questions like what is this what how many shirts are in the saying whatever answer your russian and then he's there you go so question number one immediately. It's true or false adminis- <hes> immediately mickey is out first person out everybody else end and mickey's just fuming. He's like i don't handle losing well but lost. I'm sorry my family sort artem. A friend started a debt and holly has a like she's whispers. She's like just take a deep breath. Don't say anything we'll figure this out and he's like i'm. I'm not as like all right cool and cliff and analysts go out on question to tommy and nick what on question three christie goes out question. Four for jack goes in question five because question five and he says whose notable floaters and they're not looking good for the six. I thought the sixers don bro so so here's the thing they're not even really floaters in this comes up player in the episode but we'll talk about that in just a second so then question six nicole is out so we have a cat and jess left up just to cat. She says i love you. Baby cat doesn't respond which fine to brush and seven cat atas out and you could see they both answered one answer. True answer faults and nick said somebody's out. Somebody's gonna be out so it was cat. Who's out just has tears but then she runs over and she's exciting and then she's in the e._r. And she's like oh you have the power. She's very excited very he-man of her so mickey's psych is humility defeat. I should have won that h h but i didn't tommy psych i have no idea where just brain is is hope. It's not not focused on me. Go to the pantry where we see jeff cliff cliff cat nicole and they're doing the dance a little victory dance and then to a big victory hug and and then they do a big pose for the camera which is great because they could figure out which gamut oppose four and so there was a little bit more awkward than it needed to be so now we're aerobic. Jack says it was a fix which don't even know what that means because it was not a fix and christie tells holly and tommy in jackson elise issues like christie's like i know i don't care anymore. I no longer care and holly says listen. I don't know how you guys feel about me. She's trying to distance herself so from <hes> mickey a little bit she's like. I don't know how you guys feel about me but <hes> people. I trust the ones in this room right here. An analyst is like nope. Sorry we're we're done. There is no six i'm done so i don't know where that leaves. These people like because you know are they all couples like who's gonna who's is going to work with who we have to know that you're going to start getting picked off this based on the numbers if you now have completely broken up like they have to defined numbers somewhere so is this going to be just a complete restructuring of the house and if sell like how fast this happen how was this america's vote thing going to or not america's vote the whatever it's called camp camp do that <hes> the field trip so there's there's a lot going on now our in the room we have tat. We have holly holly's stupidest move ever big brother history. She's talking about mickey not saying that holly cat knew each other and jackson thinks jackasses boy when he isn't it's not on his house and cats like and how is like. I have feelings for mickey. Obviously i didn't think i was gonna come in here and have a show but i do ultimately cat as my number one. She says x. the d._r. and cat and the says i like to work with holly but it's rough because with her comes mickey and the whole time they're in this conversation there's a lot of shots and mickey just walking around the house all alone so so let me get a little advertising a little blurb about the field trip <hes> it's maximum of ten votes per person per day so like that's a lot like <music> who has time to call in and vote ten times not <hes> then we're in the way trump and another victory dance part to name it that with clinical kel kat and jess and they say justice i'm too big is a gopher jackie and mickey and they said cool rule but here's an idea mickey's got the biggest target on 'em so how about we say we're aiming for mickey and then we basically back door jack jack which i'm so thrilled that they're smart enough to do this by get rid of jack now because he's got more allies in the house and then mickey's is just gonna be out there so and they all kind of talk about this. What i was talking earlier. They're not floaters but they all say all through this game. Nobody the sixers spoken to us. They have left us out of everything they go in different rooms they talk game. They don't include us and you know now injustice justice before but she's like we are empowered. We are all together. We are working to gather and we go to nominations. I i key mickey bam. He won't even look at the wall. He's got his back to the wall and you kinda see jack look over mickey when he goes up and then you see jack and just listen. I haven't been part of anything that you guys have done and you didn't include me in the game and so that's why you're up there and she she is a stat is one of them banished me and one put him up. Put me on the block and mickey goes. You know this is what it is but i am not going down without a fight and jackson like this is a hard game. I may sartre's cries. I made a wrong choice. I betrayed my friend and so maybe maybe there could be some redemption between jack and mickey. I dunno. I feel like i feel like that's a possibility and then a call comes in. She's he's lied. Bottom feeders are going against these outfits like yeah. They are yeah. They are nicole. You're i'm gonna go get him so you're not floaters are bottomfeeders. Slightly better expose all right. This has been the other big brother podcast. <hes> i am shelby quin. My dog just stole my child's baseball and brought it to me because she is a retriever. Oh i threw the ball on. He missed rested. Okay please come back. Listen more again. We are on the non-productive dot com <hes> podcasts. Go there and listen to fund stuff s._n._l. Nerds the honeymooners podcast and many more <hes>. We'll see as soon get the houses to stay. I'm still be quin. Read your best friend this. This has been a nonproductive media presentation executive producer frank qablawi. 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Big Brother 21 Sunday Aug 18 Morning Update

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Big Brother 21 Sunday Aug 18 Morning Update

"Every morning morning gary yes again all this john i and g._m. Sandy you said that he could do tomorrow. We'll do it again. Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for august eighteenth. I'm here. I was turned armstrong strong and with me today mary how're you doing mary. I'm doing well no new injuries to update anyone on so i think i think we're getting better. Two of my toes are still numb but everything else feels better medevac from the podcasts. No i think i'm good. I don't think we need to worry about that. I don't need a scooter christmas noise to follow me around so i think we're okay. Are you concerned about getting pranked. I mean i'm always concerned about getting cranked. Thanked got pranked at the gym the other day actually someone had taken like the water found the little bit where the water comes out and turned it like outward and then shot shot out and hit me in the face you five-year-old's at your jim. This is rock climbing gym. Why are there little kids down here. Well i mean that's that's where kids go rock. Climbing gyms are full of kids usually while it was also like nine o'clock at night so i think there should be people yeah all right well. We're here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday. On the big brother twenty one live feeds it was day sixty in the house and if you you are not a christie fan than there might be some cause for celebration for today. I mean i i don't know. Have you checked out the christie addiction party hash tag on twitter. I i haven't checked it out myself but i have been told that it exists and that the people are bringing various dishes to the party share it. Well okay. My favorite dish to bring to any are those little little hot. Dogs wrapped wrapped up in the house pastry stuff. I don't know i recall those the perfect that's good. That's that's good so i'll be bringing those to the party okay. I'm checking out the christie eviction party hashtag. It's mostly just people celebrating now pretty much. All just people celebrating a couple of good memes. I've thought it but but i think everyone is really happy that we're able to celebrate this five days before the eviction all right so is it. A veto players were drawn. Nick cliff and holly were chosen. They were all chips drawn. I don't believe there's any houseguests choice. If i'm not mistaken there and then we got. We got some preamble before the veto. Oh competition especially very short veto competition. We'll talk about that. Assists christy and tommy christie let hall christie said to to so chris and tommy that she had been talking to holly and holly let slip that nick had been making deals with them for a while and so they're starting adding to feel like oh that nick. He made a deal with them through the that's why we're in the position we are. That's why nick didn't go on the block. It was all nick sure. I mean look. I'm okay with putting any kind of blame on him. We don't get to it now but i have an entire section. My notes naked the horn dog so how many pigs in a blanket will nikki however many can get his feet on so says piston neck. She can't believe him. She can't believe and you know what she's also pissed it holly. You know why she's pissed at holly. She can't believe that holly would choose a guy over her okay. So so this says about ten or fifteen times throughout the day i off. She completely blames all of this on holly. She seems to forget that holly is not actually h. I understand that there may have been some influence there but even of highly wasn't here jackson still would've put this up but she keeps talking about and i have never said anything anything bad about holly and i have had opportunities to cut to like her talking bad about holly nonstop sending a chat bella may have tweeted recently that nick is a pig in a blanket yes so yeah says is is is absolutely ridiculous about the whole holly scituate holly told me about a month and a half ago that she would choose me <unk> over any guy jackson and now a month and a half later after i was targeting both of them. She's choosing a guy oh for me. I hope america hates her sisters before misters and that runs deep that never changes israel the even i mean if if says voted out holly jackson and then holly didn't give her vote at the end and voted for a guy we'd be hearing the same thing i mean honestly i mean let's be real holly. She did this to herself. She this jury management and play you know <hes> <hes> she should have chosen says over jackson sister. She's not going to change yourself because this game. She's not going to compromise her morals and she is just going to be a nice person. She would never do anything that would make anyone dislike her. She's never done anything wrong. No america okay. She's never done anything what she actually told america you went to the cameras. Hey america. I've been really good all season. I haven't done anything bad cleese. Give me a power. I need to be safe with christy. I mean has she forgotten that. America just voted that. They didn't like her hair cut will as we all know with big brother. America is just santa claus and if you you just tell them that you've been a good girl and you deserve presents. That's yet you sit on old saint nick's lap and us how i who i and then america gives it to you. Tom is going to go to nick. Can he's gonna let nick no. Did you make a deal with jackson. Holly next like i told you i did the day that happened. I'd i made a deal with them that we wouldn't be on the buck <hes> but i didn't throw the age oh yeah kristie and sister like mad at you because i think he sold us out and he's like what what. What does anybody trust me. Make deals with everybody all the time. I don't understand. I think i said this last week. It's just nick thinks that he's playing this amazing raising go-between game where he's playing both sides and so whenever he finds out that it's not working he just gets more and more upset. You know he it he. He just fine. Will you know what if they wanna. Put me up this. I've done nothing but protect them this whole time. I'm sick and tired of people questioning me at all all times and christie always when he tells them this we didn't question you just asked you a question. He goes. He goes to christmases and he's like. I'm just guys. I don't understand why you're questioning me and i'm not questioning you. I just have questions. What are you trust me. I don't not trust you. I just need to figure out if i can trust you. Yeah yep yup yeah so so. Let's go great utah. Tommy don't tell me does that. He does trust him and that's why he's telling next the girls. Don't trust him but it's an indicates getting question. All the time yeah does cliff is going to talk with jackson and just kind of lately. Ask like kind of assume that you know you may have made a deal with tommy at some point and that's why he's not on the block. Do says something happened and jackson's like no no no. I didn't make any deals with tommy and and in fact in fact tommy will go on the block. If nick wins just to be doing uses it so just to let you know just how not not a deal was made. Its tommy might even go up. I do have a good relationship with that. That's why he's not on block but he he will go up on the block so there's no deal yep yep no deals. I'm out of the lines. No i remember when alliances were everything. I mean like i know we made fun of all of the names of every lines ever but that's better than just all of these the six the five the three okay there was a nine and then there was an eight and there was a six five before the three. I wasn't part of any of the five that the six mine is the one so so. Tommy and tommy is going to be really pushing this to make peace with jackson all day long. There's a lot of pressure from both sides hides tommy being the main instigator to try to reconnect jackson paulie insists and he's also trying to make it happen for christie. She is probably on her way out the door so that's sort of a secondary objective at this point. He says he says this is the only reason and this is happening is because christie wouldn't make peace with jackson last week so you have to do it this week. Because that's the only only problem in the way which is not true it is true that with christy leaving giving jackson and high will probably be more likely to want to work with tommy insist because like has been stated. Many people are not gonna put says on the block. Holly actually feels like we'll get a little more entices. Yes yes i do wanna point out that it was it was probably five days ago or so on the life. You've talked about how tommy i was basically hosting an intervention for christie in the h. From one night during his h week and he was like christie you need to talk to jackson and holly. You need to try to make peace with them and christie's. I don't want to the onto. I don't care. They're not coming to me. I'm not going to go to them. I don't care i get that. That's how you do it in real life. This is a game. You need to try to make peace with them. This game you need to play the game and she was like <hes> fine but then the next day she made the deal with cliff and after she made the deal with cliff she said now. I don't have to make peace with jackson. Holly screw them. They're my targets and i can just leave it like this. Look at her <music> now yeah so i like. Tommy and i think that he's playing well but this this just not being able to let go this getting group of people together like why can't tell me just go find tommy. Go pick up jess gesture clifford nicole or someone else start something new. I mean you say that but it's the only reason he's off the block this week yes by in the long run by losing christie i mean he has sis and kinda nick. I just don't think that tommy is going to be in the power position of this new thing that forms anyway i mean i think tommy has managed to survive a week. He shouldn't have survived. It's because of his reluctance to let go of jackson and holly and i think that he's actually i was like streamed yesterday and we were going through options. Cincinnati does and i think it's actually pretty difficult to take tommy out next week even if you try to target him because he has the support of jackson holly holly was talking about how tommy is as somebody that she trusts more than anybody other than jackson they're not going for. Tommy assists in nick or still on thomas side if tommy is is able to reunite jackson and holly with sis that does put him in the control position. I don't think that's possible all. I think you could get tommy out. If like cliff wins h. O. h. inputs like holly and tommy. I don't think you can trust chests holly. Hey can't trust just anything so. I see what you're saying but i just don't think think even if it's hard to get tommy out. I don't think that he is the one calling the shots anymore. With a lot of people like i i can control. I i completely agree with that. I think i think that tommy has certainly lost a lot of positioning in cloud in the game but i don't fault him trying to reunite these two groups because if he succeeds that then he will have control over the game again. I don't think he's going to succeed with that. I hope i i hope not but he is. He is pushing hard to to reunite these groups and i do think it's possible especially with christy leaving thing but it will probably depend on who wins the next day might be an important one for somebody like cliff to end up winning so point being being though kristie absolutely should have tried to reconnect with jackson holly last week. There's no reason for her to intentionally avoid trying to <hes> <hes> to make peace with them. Having people who are your enemies in the house stay enemies when they indefinitely win h h is is is not a great thing to have happened to you especially when they win a nature wage and take you out of the game if she'd tried with tommy's help. I do think that she might have. I've been able to make something happen and we because we know that holly really wanted nick out because essentially that's what nick did holly jackson were anti christie and anti nick nick so that they might target him if they won the h. So nick went and he made a deal with them. Holly didn't like it but at least he tried and so when holly pushed jackson target nick instead of christie there was no. There's no reason for it. There's no ammunition to make that happen. Kristie admitted tried to make a deal with them and tried to open up with them and tommy had been in there trying a to greece those wheels. I do think that there was a chance she could have made something happened but she was pretty stubborn and you decided against it so we'll find out in christie had has had multiple. We'll chances to smooth things over but instead because hurt her jackson. You've got these two people who are so stubborn everyone else if at least one on if not both of them were gone everyone else remaining six would probably be happy working together prior to all of the blow up that happened recently but because you've got these to people who just constantly say it's actually kind of funny how much they mimic each other and they say i. I just can't compromise myself to work with them. I christie and jackson both oh say the same things about each other. They just hate each other but not amend things to make yourself. Knock on the block is one and to don't take yourself a deeper hole five days before a fiction and that's just what christie decided to all day well good for the veto competition and obviously we've been talking about. This kristie is dead in the water here because jackson is going to win the power of veto which means he won the age and the veto which it's important for him to get christie out because he can make peace with tommy insists which is which is better for his game however it's not great in my opinion that he they had to an android or he's now won two vetoes in asia wage the field trip competition is starting to look like this guy needs to go. If i'm anybody else in the house yeah i mean he's he's one ally in tommy does talk with him and start listing off all the competitions competitions he's played in and what percentage of them he's one and tommy's kind of doing that whole like oh no no no. I'm not calling you out for how great you are. I'm just i'm just pointing pointing out. This is amazing yeah. I wish i was as good as you. Which is a great tactic love that one. I don't know why time is saying this to jackson not to like other people in the house. They love to talk about their stats. They talk about they do they talk about percentage of competitions played versus one. I have never i seen that before in the house but it's interesting because it is a lot more telling then just flat stat comp compounds by themselves and and especially if i am somebody in the house remembering big brother twenty and how many of those like final eight to final four four competitions were you know roll a ball some sort of like throwing and catching like hand eye coordination athletic athletic casey and tyler go back to back to back winning. Those things jackson's gonna win all of those things. He's the most athletic person in the house by a large margin urgent. I'm sorry aren't those hand. I'd tactical. There's a difference between hand hand tact tactical hand tactile l. hand puzzles and and and and hand eye coordination ball throwing so yeah you gotta be careful though especially really with the direction that they're moving in with these these competitions you gotta be careful of those so it sounds like this. This competition was a puzzle and we've got in a puzzle that has multiple solutions and also involved having heavy pieces. Yes different weight. It seems like it was kind of like a physical google. Puzzle might wanna call it. I don't know if it was one of the i was picturing something that was kind of similar to the where they have like a bunch of things they have to hang up and balance them sort of that type of thing the they might have had to like run grabbing so yes yeah they we were dressed up in in like bathing suits and could each gear which is important actually but but yes so jackson wins the veto and when the feeds come back nicole is is laying in front of the diary room door and tommy. Tommy is going to in his in his beach gear. You do like a slow baywatch. Ask slow motion run. He's twirling his shirt. He runs and he goes and he grabs. He picks up nicole off the floor and he's like oh. We need to save her and holly is running in <hes> next to him in her in her bathing suit with with with like the buoy thing like oh we gotta savour in in tommy brings her over to the to the table and he sets her down there. Playing baywatch and christie is right there and mary sorry christie just lost veto <hes> how could they you can't have fun. It's so insensitive insensitive. It's extremely insensitive. It's unbelievable. She thought tommy was her friend. No no no no no. He is <music> only here for the jokes. Yes so very quickly after the feeds come back from christie losing via to jackson christie is going to head straight great upstairs to the have not room bawling her eyes out sobbing. Inconsolably assists is going to be extremely dreamily pissed. I can't believe them effing. Tommy how dare he played baywatch. That's not cool. That's insensitive live in chris <hes> and how dare he and his basically what i expected from jackson when i yeah i mean look christie is emotional and as we know she only cries when negative negative things happened to her just cried forces earlier because angel it's not it's not nice that she's on the block. I i think that we should have had more celebrating in the house. Look the houses just channeling the outside world and they know that it's it's kristie eviction party coming up and i you know how are you supposed to not play baywatch when you're wearing bathing suits so to break this down. The reason christie's really upset is not that tommy was playing baywatch. It's the tommy was playing baywatch with holly right and as we all know the most surefire way to know if people aren't alliances together play watch together. If not who you sleep in the bed with is not what room you're in. It's who you hang out with at all time. It's only <music> who you run in slow motion with bathing suits. Those who watch together final two together right or saying hello bay watch h-have hebei just get to the final two so so so christie is is upset that tommy is playing with holly and it's and really what it comes down to is that she's upset that he wants to continue to play the game with holly moving forward that he keeps trying to get her to make peace with holly in jackson. She knows the once she leaves. He's going to go to holly in jackson and still work with them and she said that the universe will be messed up if they let holly jackson get to the finals and so she is she's just upset she you know she he is supposed to be her friend from outside the house for years and years and years and and she looks like a fool because she's going in one direction and he's going in another direction and it just sucks yeah i mean she says like i should have known that are our games would wouldn't be aligned. The whole time is just because we knew each other. It's not like we've known each other for his seven years or anything. <hes> tommy's like it's fine. We're we're going to be okay. We're going to get through this. Everything's <unk> no. It's not because everyone just does what the h. One in jackson's accents gonna walk me out. Yeah kristie really hates. The people don't play their own game and they always do with the h h wants. I don't remember her being so upset whenever this benefited her as h h joyce jason happens yeah yeah. It's really what when i saw this happening. I was just like tommy. You should play into this hard like he should. He should make seem like christie. Now hates him forever when she leaves for the jury because because that would make tommy's endgame so much easier needed to have if people were pissed at him but you can't do both things you can't pretend the christie is is it doesn't like you but also tell other people like gotta get the group back together other guest chris you begin so could right. That's what i said was he should he should apologized to kristi. He should say to cristie kerr pretending to still be pissed at him his campaign tactic to keep her in the house and then oh oops it failed old well we might as well keep it up when you head to the jury to help me out because look we're a team and so then she calls him out in his victory speech eviction speech and says is i'd never vote for you tommy and she storms out of the house because she's still pissed tommy and then she goes into the house and she's like into the jury house and she's like yeah you know i was. I was really pissed tommy but i'm gonna put my ego aside and say that he played the best game giving my vote i say i think this is a good that would that would be a good idea. Media except i'm actually kind of surprised with how much tommy christie are not seen as a pair like yeah i know people lump them together but they're seen as much less of a pair then like jackson holly or even like nicole and nicole constantly brought up like i think i think tommy has enough other relationships that he's not solely tied to christie and krispies been spending so much more time with sis lately tony. Tell me tommy has done a good job. Ever since christie's game just sunk. Tommy has done a good job of separating himself from her. People still see them as as you know tight. There's still talk about them having a final deal but but he has done a good job that doesn't that doesn't mean that he can't do an even better job now. He's not going to do this of course but it was just my thought holding out for that ten exactly it was a ten player. That's what we do but he's not so he. He apologizes everybody apology. I'm not gonna apologize. No it's not that i'm not sad that i'm leaving. I'm sat about bay watch so hauling jackson. Issac jackson wants to make peace. He's with sis. He agrees with what tommy told them he he wants to do. Tom you want holly is like though i don't. This is a poor sport. She just wants to blame everyone else for her problems. <hes> in who's who's gonna take this out who who is going to target this. Nobody jason's like you just like i mean i guess so. I guess i have to nobody else is going to yeah yeah and holly talk a little bit about how each sicily's says not even good. She's not even good at competition so no one wants to take her out. Drew people you boil. Let her ride to the talks about you know it's like i'm like nine years older than her and she's a college athlete and i'm still beating her in all these competitions for a little a little bit of that and we're older than her and she's a college athlete and we're the same size yeah. We're the same size match out but she should be better. She's younger in hot water and a college athlete right yeah. I honestly though get rid of this because i know a lot of casualties were like yeah. Which brunette is holly between talking about. They think they're the same person anyway so so. It's fine yeah. Holly says it's it's easier to blame other people and take responsibility. She knows was that says has been talking bad about her letter. Hate me litter. Fume gives me more of a reason to target or later so that's that's that's. That's the good that's the good part because we want to be angry at each other does so madison because he's like. I told her to have blind faith in me and she's i. I told her that i have blind faith and she won't go home and how dare she the upset. I m put her on the block. I don't know i don't know i don't know or anything they were after what she said in the room. I don't know her anything now. We're going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back to the show. Jackson is going to talk with nick nick. Let's jackson oh his target moving forward is jess. Jess is nicks only target. He's not sure who we were put on the blog next digest but just is his target for next week <hes> <hes> and it wouldn't surprise me if he did try to win the h. and make that make that happen. There are some people i think that might throw the h. So wouldn't surprise me at all if if we see something along those lines with nick h. but we'll see i think nick and jess. Their feud is kind of like the plot happening over here on the side but it's not really important important. I mean maybe if one of them h again. It'll come up but kind of like okay. They're like you know how there's like school rivalries and you've got the two two big schools and they're like our football team and your football team and it's a big deal and then you've got these other little schools and we have a rivalry to kind of like what i think they're like thinking thinking is just like gabriel. Probably the hero of their own story have adorable doorbells not how i would describe nick but you do you sorry sir. Let me let me just throw in one of my things from nick is a horn dog ugh list. Nick says that he's going to run and jump on ben bella on finale night ooh okay. He says it's also while he is cuddling with sis assists which is great fun mick says he wishes bellawood walk in for five minutes. That's all he needs. We'll maybe less. That's what he says is says maybe less than five again sang this while cuddling sis an excess belly will be fine with him cuddling. Tommy insists because bell knew them now. Maybe it's just me but that actually makes it worse. If i know that someone is like huddling instituting with someone who i know i'd rather be a stranger someone i know them. There's more of a connection in there for your for them for everybody throws but he has slept a night in every bed is he's bragging about this and nicole whole is like oh yeah he defiled my bed when he was in it and then later on nick gets in bed with nicole again and you can see nicole just inching farther and farther away in her corner and then nick christie our sisters look christie says average so yeah chris christie the at christie was talking about her sister has looked thirty ever since she was thirteen and to her his average. I guess and kristie then goes on to say that. She looks very really really young for her age. She moisturizes a lot so as you maybe a weird sibling rivalry going on there between christie and her sister as she swears enough on her life that maybe she's maybe she's trying to make something happen. Ask wow that got real dark geez. I was having nice fun. Nick is a sleazeball time and we had to get into that corner. Nick nick is still vigorously. Jumping on top of people like like tommy and doing bad things scrape. My favorite kind of feeds kind of feeds. I loved watch so we then get to tom. He's gonna talk with jackson and hawley ali. He says look i understand. Why did we understand <hes> you know it only makes sense and but i do encourage you to <hes> make peace with and christie. You should talk to them individually allegoric. It's it's hot down there. It's not going to be easy but we need to make this happen and he really he really you know he spends a lot of time trying to grease the wheels trying to make sure that they are on board to make peace and everything can continue on moving forward will make it happen yeah and they kind of agree with that. They think that that's fine in your jackson says yeah you know like christie. I think she understands my game move. I'm just here to compete. I'm not here for all the drama and the he. He said she said it's okay if there's a little bit of strategy but but i think kristie will understand when she's gone and and then and then it'll be okay jackson. Holly both want to sit down with this explain things to make her little less upset and tommy correctly advises them to do this one on one so they don't happen here. Which is something you always talk about. How these one on one conversations come in as a group that yes so they talk a little bit afterward jackson holly holy now not sure she even wants to win the next day because she starting to feel like she's kind of good a wall as long as it doesn't win. She thinks she feels pretty good. You know everybody's basically telling her that. Nobody will come after holly. That's that's. That's exactly how christy felt last week yeah. I don't think people should throw h wage at this stage. When everything is so oh mixed up it'd be like cliff grow it wanted to the real people playing the middle are cliff and nicole there that people in throwing anybody else's just fooling themselves unless they really do make a solid piece with tommy insists then. I think that they can safely through true. H and that would be good for them but you're not there yet holly but i don't think she's in a terrible position. Either holly has pretty good likelihood of ending up on the block but i don't think she has at greater likelihood of going like being the initial initial target this especially now that jackson has won these competitions jackson definitely goes home overhaul at this point so she is a lot more or insulated than she has been in the past and there's just not many people that i think are even outwardly planning on putting jackson and holly both up. I mean real like if tommy's plan works and they make something with this. I don't think this would then do that right away. I think it's more of a oh if someone ends up leaving leaving by veto circumstance that's one thing and i think i think cliff and nicole well have both been working with jackson holly enough to especially cliff toward that wouldn't benefit him right away so no not in the worst by it's it's ah we we really went over yesterday on the stream and it's it's such a fluid game. I it could go could go anywhere. I don't think anybody's integrate spot and i don't think anybody is in a terrible spot. I think it's really it's really all over the place. It's having a hard time picturing how holly really gets targeted but also i don't know who people have to put somebody up and i'm not i'm not really sure exactly who they would. I mean jess and make are going to put each other yeah just a nick or the only two people people that are actively being targeted next week by your i would love for nicole to win somehow and put nick up just to like get rid of those people disliking her because she works with nick like that's why just hates nicole so much part of the reason reason nicole nicole was nice to her. How dare she oh. Breaking news. Also forgot to mention this earlier. Holly is very upset at sis also because cysts did not say good morning to her own the reverse of the bailey and tyler stuff. I mean it's bad to say good morning but it's worse to not say good. More mastermind sis thought that she was correcting the mistakes of the past but it turns out. There's just no winning. No i mean i think now really begs the question when you're maybe having a feud with someone especially especially if it's a one sided feud. What do you do if they say good morning you should do. Here's here's the next thing to try. Obviously just say good wait. Suboxone says good morning and you respond. No no you don't they don't say you. You walked up to walk up to them. You say halfway there. It's confusing enough. They won't know if you were trying to say good morning or if you're trying to not what's a good morning and they won't be able to be mad at either one. How about how about a nice little nice little head nod. I don't know that could that could be aggressive. Okay but is it more aggressive than not saying what you want them to be. A little bit confused used the confusion takes the edge off the anger. Okay naria plans. Everyone knows this down in your big brother. Rule books try this out next season going to say good they play some pranks they'd put vaseline on the door handles and the cabinet handles in all all of this stuff i actually actually i have only been to camp one time. Really the same camp multiple times. I went to cross this country camp and in cross country camp. There were a lot of pranks so this is the most accurate can't thing so far and almost all of our pranks involved putting fast-lane in places so all over the bathrooms just all over and then there was a lotta duct taping people to walls and <hes> saran wrapping beds with all your stuff on the walls seems like they have to be an active participant doesn't seem that prank but they would scare people when you walk in person duct tape to your all they were upside down to. I think i remember that doesn't seem safe. Well high school cross country camp but he going to do all. I'm saying is lots and lots of acelino so this is very accurate and it's the only accurate thing about camp so far my my cross country camp experiences just involved listening to techno music really loud yeah. There was some of that a little bit running to occasionally. I mean sometimes lots of eating gravy. I remember that part so jessen christie. You're gonna have a lengthy discussion russian out in the backyard that that jackson tries to listen in on and do you guys even. She just hates nicole. It's a it's. The whole thing is just nicole sucks. She's the worst how dare she look at nick. You know why. Why does she do the things she does. Why is she the way she is christie being like i'm sure she i'm sure she might be a good person. Outside of the house and justice like yeah maybe yeah but not in here we're not in the interest just hates nicole. She has jumped on on the bandwagon of bet nicole is lying about being bullied and i think she's she's just pretending with her anxiety. It's like l. o. Left the house post before she left like osmo cest all of her bad feelings about nicole into jess a delay so it was gonna hit her like a couple couple weeks late this this brings me back to justice h week when nicole talked to jess about about feeling doing bad for cliff in the veto because christie insists were laughing at him. Nicole was like pouring her heart out like i feel so bad it's i hate data. You know he's such a great guy and they're laughing at him and i feel like it's bullying and at the time i was like it seems like jess not only doesn't care but actively like doesn't like what nicola saying right now like actively is despising the the the conversation that is occurring because she was just like yeah and then completely ignored what nicole was saying the whole time and at the time i thought well maybe it's maybe it's just jess. Maybe that's just just she just kind of spaces out sometimes maybe she just wasn't paying attention or something but no the way that she describes it to christie is oh yeah when she was telling me that i was just like oh my god nicole stop why are you. Why are you acting like this. Why are you lying about people <hes>. I like she. She has been thinking this of nicole for a long time in my opinion including all the way going back to her h week and potentially before i i think this relationship has been fairly one sided for awhile. It's always been just and cat not just nicole is it because nicole gets to the point faster so it confusing conclude guess because we don't spend three hours. Thanks maybe any no it wasn't it wasn't even always justin k. I think i think the justice she's she's very much a free agent when it comes to friendships because she was very anti cat for most of the week last week but now now she is cats evangelist and when she's talking to christie about like how cat flip the vote or win the vote flipped against cliff and cat was knew about the flip she was like yeah but cat never would've voted cliff out. She was way too loyal to him. She never would have done that in a million years even if you guys told her to do that i know you told her to vote to keep cliff but if you had told shoulder to vote to evict cliff she never would have done that too. Loyal <hes> our coffee mug that says i'm a free agent when it comes to french french free. I love that who said the next. I'll i'll put that mug in the store that sells shirts yeah. Yeah i mean i. I don't know why jess dislikes nicole so much. I think some of it in this house has to do with everyone thinks that they are a really great person and and i'm gonna talk within the context of the house. I don't know them in their outside lives but you know you hear sis talking about how she such a nice person who doesn't do anything wrong and never bad mouth holly christie's just so caring and as such in such a nice person in jackson is great women. The jack is such a nice healthy. Never wanted to be a mean girl with everyone else. Jus just pressure pain too so the problem is when you have some people in the house who are genuinely really sweet people like nicole and cliff it just messes with all those other. People's minds leans his weight but i know i'm such a good person and so if they think they're a good person but it's not meshing meshing with how i am very must be a bad person. They must be a bad. There must be something that they're hiding yeah. I think that's where i'm going with this. I i'm with you. I think you're right <hes> so they have that lengthy conversation and it sketches jackson out the justice talking to christie rusty so much he talks to cliff with holly in the room a bit about this pissed off and they're trying to lighten the mood cliff promises again. He's voting with them. He wants to work with the moving forward and they jackson's like so but what about i'm solid on euclid but what about nicole and we don't have to worry about nicole. Call nicole is good. You don't have to worry about her gently. What about jess because i just saw her talking with christina there for hours and cliff is like yeah i don't know i don't know how much we can trust her. She's definitely very close to christie but you've got. You've got nicole myself so you don't i have to worry about the vote at very least so they're starting to get concerned and very rightfully so that that is very close with the other side christie christie and by the way in that conversation was also telling us. If i leave you have to get you have to link up with this. You have to work with them and just was like ok. Okay yeah so christie tells jess. You need to link up with this because this will be a great mediator between u._n. Win nick so nick won't put you up and justice like okay and then immediately after that just says yeah. I just hate nicole cause. She's always hanging out with nick not cisco who is also hanging out with me who you are just been informed to work with herself for potentially hanging out with it's kind of the problem because the knicks just goes around telling everyone look it's fine. I've gotten kohl's vote and i could probably cliff in meanwhile clifford nicole jackson. Yeah we're with you. This narrative was completely crafted by cat the day of her fiction and when kat was mad that nicole wasn't voting to keep her. She said the only reason nicole isn't voting to keep me is because she's just knicks puppet. She does whatever nick says is and it's all knicks fault and so that's why justice taken that and run with it. It was never an issue for just until that happened that that was a really really big bonding session between her and cat where they just decided to hate nicole so that's where that's where they stand there. Jackson insists do eventually have their talk sisters going to swallow her pride and talk with jackson. She says look look. I just i'm not even mad about me going home or being on the block or christie going home. The only thing mad about is that you didn't tell any that i was going on the block. I have everybody was shocked. Everybody came up to me and said that they were really surprised and so so was i and a really that's the only reason i'm mad very very typical. Sort of everybody always always when you get put up on the block go back. Watch every single season of big brother. Watch every app watch every nomination episode after every nomination episode there in the diary room saying you know i'm not mad that i'm put on the block but i'm really mad about the fact that they said this and their speech or the fact that they didn't tell me ahead of time or the fact that they told me ahead of time or the fact did they didn't say this in their speech. You'll always find something to be mad about where to pretend that you're not mad that you just put on the block and you're losing the game. Give me fair. I i would also be more mad to be called a fruit dingus than on the block so sometimes lynch no i mean i can't figure out where where this narrative has come from that sis is likely sweet innocent little dove and also that that she's so shots issues on the block and i guess she expected to go through this entire game without ever being put up on the block when you were on such clear opposite sides. There were really really only three options of people who are clearly on this other side. Tommy chris eat new kind of put nick in there a little bit but tommy nick made deals with jackson so that leaves shoe people to go on the block and things like i don't understand why just isn't a or i don't understand why mickey mickey isn't a maybe it's because they at least pretended to be with jackson at least gave it talk to him some. Have you know you're just sitting here. Coasting expecting things is to work out your way and i know that i think we only on i feel the same way here which is that christie is annoying and she cries is a lot and she's not like playing great game. What i would one hundred percent of the time rather cisco home this this reminder enjoyment. I just don't enjoy watching someone who's not playing and it's frustrating that she may or may not ever get voted out. Jackson tells her look. I overheard you talking. You end christie talking saying they don't have cliff. They don't have nicole. They don't have me. They don't have christie. They don't have tommy don't have. They don't have anybody except for cat. That's it's all they have they can't they're in. They're in trouble next week like i overheard you saying that so so i said one wrong thing. What's the problem. I just know jack's. I just wish you would've told me. I just wish you would have told me jackson and he's look i did. I talked talk to you. I told you that that these nominations might ruffle some feathers in that. You need to put blind faith in me and i just i just i wish you would have that. I took that to mean that you trusted me and i wasn't gonna go and block and he's like i do trust you. That's what i was too. I do trust you. That's why i'm putting you on the block doc so that i know you won't go home. I wouldn't have put you on the block if i didn't know that you won't go home and she's like no you. That's your trust me so you put me on the block and he's like yeah. Now i'd say do you have to trust me this. I trust that no one in this house is going to waste their vote getting rid of new when there's cristea st they're fair sis. This is your role in the house. Your role is to be the person to sit next to someone to get them to go out. You're not the first k. you know like cliff had that role just had that role and i was your turn. This is an infuriating conversation because this is constantly gently interrupting jackson as he's trying to explain himself with just like yelling like passive aggressive yelling where she's kind of like. She's yelling boot trying to pretend that it's light hearted. Do you know what i mean by that like like. I'm just so mad about this right now jackson then i'm just i'm really mad about it but i'm gonna be a little bit light hearted about my yelling. I just don't understand why you're doing this like she's smiling throw zero. It's it's it's it's it's so boy and i'm not saying that you should ever like give up when you're on the block when you're in this particular situation nine times out of ten if you know you're not the person going home and then it wasn't like you haven't heard that anyone i'm trying to get rid of you except for tommy wants to save christy kind of <hes> then just sit back. Be nice work on your relationships for next tweak. Don't make yourself a target for next week. Which you are in collies is kind of now and yeah. I can't believe we made it to the end of this podcast without mentioning mentioning all throughout the day. All you hear is that the reason that cyst is on the block at all is because she said that howling jackson had no one god inside. We have no one near but it's too. I say one wrong thing. It was just one thing come on. I always say good things in the one time. I say one bad thing. It's now. I'm on the block. That's not fair. Jackson says look. I put you up because i knew that christie would go home against you. Have tommy went up the votes. Might flip nick went up yeah. What about nick. What about nick. He's he's target. Hey let me finish. Let me let me finish. Let me nick is targeting you. He made a deal. Let me let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish now lakers targeting nicot targeting. You let me finish. Oh boy also tell nicb multiple times. I understand what you're up on the block. I don't understand why this on the block okay not unique. He says look christie is my target not nick why why because christie is the biggest threat to my game but nick come on just because of what i said in the dim lit stupid stupid room. I said one thing jackson was a bad thing yet. One come on and it was one thing saying i would nice two's whole time and then i said yeah i'm against jackson and then you put me on the block like one time. Everybody says things come on seriously. Though what about nick i want kristie gone but even like what about like just initial nam. Why didn't you just put put him first and then you could have changed it because i want kristie gonna wind you. Why do you want somebody who's willing to work with you to go oh home. I don't think she's willing to work with me. I want her to go home oh but but what about what about nick i'm i'm i'm. I'm really mad right now jackson. I can see that look tantrum. This is this is. Maybe my only chance to take this shot. Today was a puzzle. I don't puzzle good. I don't puzzle good christie does puzzle good and i managed to beat her and i need to take this opportunity and this he's like okay fine. I'm just i'm not gonna lie to you. Though i'm still really upset with holly and i have my reasons for that. Her boyfriend end says her boyfriend using quotation. Marks didn't tell me that i was going on the block. She's just so insecure. <hes> insincere sorry excuses so insincere and i just i just don't i just don't like it. I feel better georgia jackson. I feel bitter toward ordeal and he's twelve. I look i look i. I don't know i don't know anybody anything. You said what you said but but he says this is. This is just me being selfish for the first time in my life. Which is i think like the third time he said that in this house anytime the first time being when he broke up with cats yep i hope more so we can get a nice like like six or seven compilation of the first time that jackson has been selfishness yeah and look i wanna work with you and tommy moving forward thinks like soda. I try against you and your girlfriend and so they kind of like they're kind of like laugh. Laugh like passive aggressively laughing with each other and then the conversation ends jackson tells holly. I feel like things and move over for the most part but she brought up you. She apparently has her own issues with you. So we'll see cash you know. I still think that assist should go but there are going to be upsides if she meets thing but that just throwing me under the bus is also funny because of how much time they spend together like i really want jackson to just go tell nick. Hey yeah you know so. I'm gonna say this and she's like really wants you on the block instead instead of christie also tip for anyone who's ever in the big brother house. If you're in a position where someone gets gets put on the block or maybe you get put up on the and you just don't understand their nominations because it's not maybe you would have done or whatever it tells you that maybe maybe you don't know everything that's going on in the house. Maybe your perspective. It's not same as everyone else's perspective well i. It's not going to see far here. Maybe shocking there was also a moment in the jackson says conversation where he was doing. I don't remember which it was like a ah pigs guts or something whatever it is. He's got those weird things. We've talked me. He was using this look. I have no. I have no bush i have you've. I'd rather live on my feet than die on my knees you can't you can't swallow a pig guts. I don't know what it is but he's he's doing those. I hate your sayings curve. I hate them. People are asking if i'd rather see sister christy make designed by the thing is that i think kristie we already saw her recognize that america doesn't like her through the <hes> being named for the field trip thing and i think that show get enough information from julie to also sort of understand that since i i want to see her if she voted out now she's she's going to just pretend that everyone liked her on the outside if we get a few more shots that are in the house so i think that'll help prime her for what's going on voi- well. Nicole nicole is going to have a brief moment coming to the cameras she used to dance with cat in the house and she joke around with jess but now all of her friends have turned on her and she's just on her own so she has a little bit of a dance party by herself in the r._v. Room to the cameras she reads horoscopes from the tar box. Somebody you meet today day. We'll betray you by the end of the day terrifying. Why is this a horoscope on a children's pastry box. What's happening. Cliff brought that out earlier in the night and was showing everyone. He walks into this room where everyone's having this conversation he's like. Is this tarbuck. Look at this horoscope that was on on this day. I like to think that whoever put that in the house like read a whole bunch the different ones on the back and was like oh really get them. This is funny yeah nicole now dancing alone she has no friends left concisely. It's like oh boy. Christie says and tommy conversation six explains her conversation jackson. Tommy suggests they make a deal with jackson. Holly the the the deal would be. Hey let's all get back together. We can use the veto. We can save both of us. We can save everyone. We can work together moving forward if not then. I think this astill exclude chris christie. Let them know don't worry guys. I've i think i think we're going to be okay. I've been visited by not one but two separate spirit guides who have told me that i have the power to change the outcome of the week caitlyn maury caitlyn. Herman memorial is what they're thinking so i mean nine. It turns out christie's not dead. She's gonna make she had a vision this morning that her insists would both be staying. That'd be fine. It's gonna be great. I can't wait. I can't wait to play this clip back when <hes> when on monday afternoon christie is like the universe always always works out and we have to say you know she's onto something don't manifest that he brought he celebrating already made my pigs in a point man. They'll really have to cancel that party. Cliff is going to have a brief chat with jess toward the end of the night. He gives her a heads up. The only thing to worry about nick nick might becoming after you. She's like yeah. I think nick has a final two with jackson right yeah and with tommy too oh yeah yeah. They're all intertwined. <hes> yeah you're right. Nick actually talks jackson earlier and they have this conversation where they do talk about now a final two but oh i'd be willing to lose to you. I'd rather lose five forty nine zero the nicole somebody i know i it can be a problem with this entire. Conversation is that nick's mouth is just full of food during the entire time and very hard to listen. I'm looking coming out and i was confused like jackson and watermelon but he's chewing and swallowing before we talk he takes big chunks and they're gone instantly right way just they. You just dissolved but nick know why he was eating but it was jackson. Jackson's physiology has evolved to the point where his saliva can instantly to vaporize any any watermelon vendors enters his mouth. It's more among yesterday cookout and i thought of jackson there you go. That's fine. It made me think so. How much is he having to see in this house. Oh you know what he does. Somebody pointed out on the chad jackson celebrate the veto win and taking christie out of the game came by shot gunning some beers right and then jackson informed us that he can drink eighteen beers in less than an hour and be fine and you know ooh hollywood and she's sitting there. Actually there's some really great shots of her face. Just being like all right right. That's what we have for. You unless there's anything else you want to bring up mary well. I don't know i went through my knicks section old. Saint nick loves when people sit on his land land <hes>. That's that's pretty much. I await sis says that reading shakespeare was really difficult order and i think that was a missed opportunity. Read shakespeare require her to read shakespeare. She was just talking about how difficult shakespeare was and how she's unable to read. Read the bible because it's harder than reading shakespeare and reading shakespeare in school was the hardest thing for her so really think that she should have had the haley punishment and that would have been really good way to give us more entertainment either that or have or fill out of mad libs both the hard all right well. Thank you so much for joining joining us. Today you can find me on instagram taryn underscore armstrong now leicester day. We had an early live update today. That was for a specific reason. If you want to know what that reason was you can find me on instagram. I'm going to be posting a photo that explains a little bit and gives a bit of a hint as to something that is to come. I was very fun and exciting so on instagram you can also find me on twitch twitch tv slash taryn armstrong and twitter at armstrong terron mary. Where can people find you. You find the rha b._n._b. 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Big Brother 21 Friday Aug 23 Morning Update

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Big Brother 21 Friday Aug 23 Morning Update

"Every morning morning gary again yes again all this john i anti in juneau ed rosh et that tomorrow he will do is again. Hello everyone and good morning or good afternoon. Welcome to our live update for august twenty third twenty third. I'm armstrong and with me. Today is hiding. I'm doing really well terron. We had had to election parties. We had changes. We've had flips. We've had my xbox turning on for some reason. I will turn that off on a hot check but i talk about all the things yes yes. We are here on the later time for the friday updates. It's noon eastern and i think some people may have forgotten. I apologize to those did though that we will be live noone. That's going to be true for every friday for the rest of the season so that we can stay up late and watch the thursday night feeds. I am caffeinated today. This reenactments about i've pushed the update back to noon and i woke up early anyway. I didn't get to sleep so i- caffeinated myself and now we're here guys. They were ready to life all right so we're going to update on everything that happened yesterday. On the big brother twenty-one live feeds it was day sixty five in the house. They sixty five. We hadn't eviction before that eviction before it happened. We had a little bit of talk talk about the plans for the upcoming week <hes> which was very interesting because it's been a very fluid week all week long and we really don't know oh. We didn't know where things were going where things are heading and so we had. We've got a little bit of a sense of where things might have gone under different age wage circumstances for instance christie talked with tommy and it was very very brief conversation. It was actually pretty funny because tommy uh when to chris christie. I'm shaking. Please tell me please tell me you would never put me up on the block and chris. He's like of course not no never i would never do that tommy well. What do you mean actually tommy. I was going to ask you if there was any way that i could go to nick and be like knock. Knock knock comes in interrupts sweden near the rest of it. Yeah we'll never know will ever know what the fate was interrupted now. It seems to me like she was implying. That basically like like basically what i've been saying but if christie thinks about it for two seconds it doesn't really make any sense for her to go after nick in any way so she's going to obviously obviously talked to tommy and and be like. Can i go to nick and like mend. Some fences berry some hatchets. Let's not come after each other's. The biggest threat over here show mance called jolly but they're not very jolly great name for that yeah. I imagine that's exactly what it would have been rec- will try to mend defense of the implosion that was taco tuesday moving forward because it kind of makes sense thomas the glue in the middle. There's no reason that we shouldn't yeah so. Tommy has a conversation with nick as well where he talks to nick about. How well first of all nick is like. I really gonna win this one. I'm my back's against the wall. I gotta win. I'm gonna i'm gonna win. I'm gonna win and thomas no. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win this and me. I'm the one that he bangs his microphone. I really hate when i'm the one no stopping. That's where your phone is really loud to me. I'm the one that's gonna win. The amnon put up jackson and holly for the house. I'm going to do its best. It's going to be best for the house the whole we're gonna put jackson holly on the block going to do it. I'm gonna win h so then to resolve their is nick me okay so then here's what we'll do bro. I'll put to oppal five hundred thousand you put one of the tiebreaker then you get it all right then the name the man who's been talking about not throwing it. I'm gonna go for it the minute he gets this idea. You know what what five hundred thousand easy easy money for you tommy. I got your back bro. Yes yes look. I really wanna win but if you feel that strongly about it if it comes down under the two of us our five hundred thousand in the tiebreaker you can write one and you'll win. I'm tommy's like okay good. Tommy's ready to take that shot. Nicole and cliff have a conversation in col-. Let's cliff now because he asks her who she would put up if she wants. She says i'm thinking tommy and christie those are the two <hes> so we were right on that one as well and and she was thinking tommy and christie on the block probably with tommy as the target given given what they say later in the night so close says it's fine with me. I'm good with that but they also get interrupted. So that's a lot of the planning happening here. That's heading into this week. Sands prankster <hes> we were looking at a lot of people talking jackson holly nicole potentially targeting tammy and christi so nick is also going to stir some stuff up here tommy and holly. We're talking for a while about like. When should we tell cysts. She's going home. They're like debating about it. Like how do we tell her. When's the right time. We don't want to mess up her makeup <hes> but we we want to give her time by herself and in the meantime nikolai cases it's not oh. I don't know he's chewing so loudly when he's telling her. It just sounds like he doesn't dance yeah so i was talking to jackson bro come on man none of sniffling either. No i refuse to reenact that but yeah so he tells her wall. She's applying makeup at the dining table and this is where stuff starts to hit and we get what probably was the most exciting part of the day told hold on to twenty big brother time yes. This starts sobbing. She leaves the living room the dining room kitchen it to the to the bedroom or or at least that area and she's she's crying and she's mad at the world matt nick matt matt jackson mad at christie everybody she's just she's just mad mad and sad and mad and whose idea was it to f and put put me on the block like this i hate jackson f. f. and much and <hes> he's such a liar he such an f. f. in her not really likes to break up her words with an f-bomb yeah if there was any drinking game that any group of people had watching the season of anytime on the feeds needs to take a shot you'd be gone. You'd be you'd be doing. You'd be here watching this morning. It's alive over. We're talking doc in over forty years told many yeah don stop f f f f f f f f yeah she's angry. She's not everyone mad at the world mad at the house mad at individuals not not taking any of the blame herself not really seeing that she's done anything wrong because i'm sis and i was so nice and i was never going after him. I didn't do anything into anything wrong. Social game was so good. I didn't do anything jackson except one put him on the block next week and blindsided i._t. I didn't i didn't do anything. I didn't do anything to him right in this moment no i. I did nothing wrong young. This is not f- fair oh this is blowing up and <hes> and so people are talking and she's again like everyone's blaming christie goes over. She's blaming. Nick and nick is in the room like hearing everything that's happening. He's like why do why what was happening. Here and and jackson goes over and he's like look. You know i'm sorry i had to to do and insist is just like you're an effing liar. You hate you. It's like we're all wow. Hey me look i didn't i didn't lie i. I never said you told me. I was an f. in pond. I know i never said death. No you did you did no no. I didn't know you did. I know that those words never came out of my mouth. I'm not a liar. No are you are you. There were a couple of reasons why this scene was very entertaining to watch so i this this is kristie and since they moved into the bedrooms there and sister's doing the makeup. Are i think you alluded to this on your tweet stream. She's doing the happy small faces utah uh-huh she's taking a break in between all of this to be like i hate him so much i just recreating and messing up their recreating again a lot of fun to see and then when jackson comes into the room we don't really you see that until the camera zooms out and jackson's just standing there looking at them and christie brings him in and says. I don't care what i have to look. Get your face. You broke your promise to me and then we talk about did he say ponding not tape on and then when jackson goes over to the room with nick and he starts talking to nick. She says a say he says. I thought you thought what was about to get up and go throwdown. Nikolic don't to brawl just leave. It actually calms him down. Prevents them from doing that yeah he. He immediately immediately after assist says she hates him. He's he's like oh she. She hates me. I'm dead to her like he. He just throws in. He just throws a dead to her like she never said it had been. This is part of it now. So that that happens the cries more to christie and all of that stuff they eventually it. It's really funny to watch and we were we were watching and there was just a bunch of them. You know like tommy. Tommy is just sitting there like sad sad face and so it's just like nick and tommy christie like a bunch of these just like like hardcore players in the house just like consoling like they're just letting down the kind of just like clouds player. That wasn't really there. It's like it's like a group of sharks just waiting for the minot to pass. This is how i feel like employees that i feel when they're tending product away for life and it's the last day on the floor and they all stand around it. Say some nineties yeah the far chair. We have a lot of good families with this chair. It's been in our life for about two years psalm. I'm to hit the shelves and go away. That's how i thought this was going down but i mean they give her a send off. You know i think my favorite memo this season. Now is the sad tommy react to things that people together on twitter so good to watch always a good time yeah who thought we get fired out of a specific never imagine that i mean that's best case scenario yeah. Thanks for his. I'm concern so we get to the eviction. This is five to one. She goes out to julie who who says so. You're the pon. Julie confirming cisse's argument there. I see you julie it. It doesn't matter so this is a victim we get to the h. o. We rank them wasn't really the bird calls gotcha. <hes> actually thought that was funny but i felt took away from the episode to be honest. Well yeah the fact that they had this planned meant. They showed nothing of what went down post taco tuesday they including stuff today. So that was fortunate. It was kind of fun to have the wool from underneath both viewers to a degree and the contestants. I'll take that the team nicole be terrified birds again as the main storyline all that much of it on all that all the time pretty incredible well how they're managing that yes honestly i'm kind of liking the rhythm they're getting into where basically the thursday episode they're showing. I mean mostly the drama that happens and then sunday. They're filling in the strategy. I'm hoping that what we see. This week is well. I feel like that's a much better formula than what they already had planned all along which is of course that we're going to throw in twists in competitions and blah blah blah i and sunday now when you got strategy so on the show and the sunday episode so then i feel like who may maybe maybe next season they can just do that. <hes> so holly is going to end up winning the h this was turned turned out to be perfect shot as as we kind of speculated and but it was a slightly different perfect shot it was more like older season shuffleboard whenever it's called today used to where they got one shot as opposed to a bunch of shots and so that's much more crapshoot than skill skill is perfect job might have been and so we're going to get holly as the and that's that's pretty big because as as we said there were a lot of people targeting holly jackson once again but holly is gonna pull out another h which means that's the second h for holly we have the i repeat h wage it's also the third straight competition that jackson and holly have one collectively which is another big deal in terms of their threat level so all these are h yeah yeah. I'm sure all the perfect shots she roll the fifty did have a bounce bouncing there but the fact that does she want i and did that. Everyone else was kind of whatever i was like outside of someone rolling up fifty here as well. We're not going to see anything change. The only caveat being that the bottom two scores were gonna be pranked for the upcoming week and then we had three people because two people somehow our wonder fifty still managed to get the same points so that was pretty interesting i think how much do we think they just wanted both clinical to be punished and so they're like well. They tied so technically. I mean it would have been good if that to redo it. I think having a third person in on the gag is a win for them and the fact that it wasn't a double. I feel yes so oh so holly is our wage. She pretty quickly is going to chat with jackson and say that her idea for nominations are going to be a nick. Obviously the target and she's gonna put christie right next to nick as the pond. She volunteered that was part of her campaign. Hey use me put put me up as a pond whatever i just want to get through this week. I'm willing to do whatever it takes and so he's gonna cash in those chips. Why china is the perfect opportunity for you to capitalize on a deal. You made that kind of gets everything you thought for about a month. These guys are thinking about proceeds to go. Oh i need to go jackson gets his shot. He puts christie up and even though highly wanted nick gone christie made sense but then when they save christy this was the only thing that christie can give them in return the other thing being essentially if she wednesday choice they're not going on the law so that works out also when jackson jackson tells christy that she's safe earlier in the day. That's about a one twenty fifth brother time. She was in her towel and the storage room so that was also fun for wanna. Go check out. There will be looks good yes so this is the plan is christie and nick on the block nick as the target. If christie wins the veto just goes up in her place. Nick goes home. If nick wins the veto just goes up in nick's place and just goes home. According to these initial plans they would want jess has gone over christie. They still feel good enough about christie to feel that way. As of right then cliff cole are going to chat about how what they would love to see this week if they had their way. They want tommy gone. It's happening. It's it is happening happening. This is the first time in the whole game that tommy has really been a target for anyone that they actually want him to go home. He has lost enough of his shields that he is now exposed sue the lights. His position has been deteriorating week after week. He's still in one of the best in the game but there's a crack there and and cliff nicole they see the crack and they're like oh. We've got we've got a shot on this guy cliff very correctly points out if they take tommy out that opens the game wide open because then he doesn't explain plane this but i imagine this is what he's thinking because with tommy gun nick pulls over to them christie is out a little bit on her own maybe working with jackson accident holly but so are cliff and nicole and they would imagine that the jackson holly trust clinton call more than they do kristie which is definitely going to be the case later in the night and and so things look pretty good if they can get tommy out yet to put this in harry potter. If we look at thomas baltimore for a hot second he does the last couple of weeks to her purses aka house because his alliances have since gone jack has on the christie they think they've neutralized they think christie's more on their side a little bit which gives them more confidence to pull this off or go after tommy because now tommy does this that he was holding so hard together for so long and if they do take tommy pieces that they can actively play with whereas we talked about earlier on this episode where tommy is kind of the glue that that could bring back could bring nick together and like men dot fence and become a powerful three again so this is a good move for. I think this is the best move for they were. Yes and i don't think it's the end of the world if they don't make it happen either because i don't think they or really anybody knows that tommy would go straight after jackson holly which wouldn't be bad for them either but it's better for them to have christie in the game going after jackson holly tommy in the game going after jackson holiday because nick is loyal to tommy not loyal to christie so that's what they would like to see happen which is relevant because of course in the episode we found out about prank week which was part of the switcheroo and also this i twist of the week there might be more where we are voting for america's prankster now. The vote has ended. There are no more there's no more opportunity to vote for this position but the basics are that you vote for one player that player will essentially be the co h yeah but anonymously and they did not explain how it works exactly whether the age george attempts to nominate two people but gives a priority on one of them. Maybe and the prankster gets to replace the not priority one before the nomination. They said it would happen at the nomination ceremony so it's not like the hacker power where they take somebody down and replaced them in its own ceremony. It has has to be at the nomination ceremony or at least it appears that way so it would seem like like either that or perhaps the h. will be told they can can only make one nomination and the they'll call everybody in as for america's prankster and then give them the opportunity to nominate whoever they want and then so the first one will be h nomination second one will be prankster nomination. That's less exciting. Though i feel like it's more exciting for the show and now i've nominated this this person and then of nominated and there's a big prankster <hes> photo of the person with like like red marker on it or something and like wait a minute. That wasn't my nomination but i don't know how they coordinate that necessarily yeah no i think i think it's kind of a nice situation. They have set up where everyone kind of knows at the first is going to be so maybe if they're trying to do the whole priority everything kind of nick so easy money. I feel like how i would want it to be is holly turns over the second key at in the box instead of the her on popping up is just the blocking the black figure the hacker shows up and the prankster prankster nam someone else they reveal being right then and there was no annoying and everyone being blindsided is kind of what i want especially because based on the speculation they've done. They've all kind of touched on this a little bit where they think i think like the nominees will be in effect anyway with this week and the prank power or whatever's going to happen so i wanted to be as much as possible and that'll be entertained for all of us in volt yes so it's hard to speculate about what may or may not happen but i have to imagine that cliff and nicole are two of the most likely people to receive america's prankster power across the internet. Nicole is leading most polls that i have seen including my own that i put up last last night with just three thousand voters. Nicole got forty. Six percent of the vote cliff got thirty one percent. There's here's the jokers poll that has i believe cliff in a slightly. That's with about an one thousand nine hundred voters. There's also be daily which has about five thousand which has an coal in the lead. Most online polls have nicole in the lead which is a little surprising to me. I would have expected and maybe something slightly different but in calling lead online will that school that persist in the t._v. Only not online people vote vote in when how much of a vote do they have. It's very difficult to know because nicole in my view hasn't been on the this show all that much like if i'm a t._v. Only viewer and i'm watching nicole on my screen. I probably thinking of nicole as i am the bird lady. That's her. That's her whole narrative is afraid of birds. I'm terrified of birds anytime they didn't somebody bully her earlier something. I think that happened. I feel like that was the thing that happened. Yeah entered in her dad like drinks. Yes that's all avalon nicole. If i'm just watching the show which leads me to believe that i think if the insulin casuals can find their way onto the website and find the link and vote. I'd be like cliff what happened edge there. I know that on the podcast the nickname is out there nixon the mix that certainly could have been the case if that's the worst case scenario. I feel like it's kinda met. I feel like we already know where that would've gone so i do think in my opinion it's cliff or nicole and i think one of the main reasons why the online contingent has looked at nicole is because nicole hasn't won anything. It's an opportunity for an older. Do something and i would like to see the argument. Put out there that hey technically we had a new. That's half h wait so it's eight and a half ah in nine weeks in a row so it's a new age orage always every week technically i would be voting for that. Reason didn't vote so i don't know yeah yeah. Honestly my preference was nicole because of the fact that she hasn't had any power and i want to see what she does with. I feel like cliff has played a better game than nicole all and cliff having the power it has more potential to screw him up than it does to benefit him in any way and so almost for that reason i'd rather nicole have it to screw it up because look she's got to prove yourself in the game so prove yourself or screwed up either way. You know that's the game <hes> whereas i feel like cliff has been doing a pretty decent job and i wouldn't want him to get screwed over by twist in that way <hes> and also i think part of maybe the vote here for nicole. Is that earlier during the day she said if i win i'm putting up christine. Tommy and i think people want christy and tommy to be put on the block. Nicole is interesting interesting though if she gets it in that she would not put nick on the block in <unk> nick or jess on the block most probably which are two of the people that holly and jackson want to see on the block so that could be interesting and we'll talk more about why that's even even more interesting later in the night so there is a punishment and the punishment involves pice nacho. I'm not i'm not really a pie expert korea but are these basically they have like pie crusts and then they put a bunch of whipped cream on him right yeah. That's that's all it is. There's no there's nothing there's when they have to make the pies. The slapstick whipped cream onto the cross pan. That's it that's that's what they're doing. Nobody actually eats pies like that. Though right. No i feel like maybe you know high college. Students would consider that high but everywhere else that's all. I don't think anyone's i've seen people eat whipped cream out of a can. That's certainly possible far off. Were who who came up with this idea that you pie people in the face with pies is that nobody actually eats. I don't know i mean people used to eat pies like this but then wiser. It's never a punishment if you can eat the pie afterward you got to. It's got like not benefit you in any way. You're not as you know if someone's throwing a hamburger at me yeah. Hey i get hamburger. I'll take it but if they're throwing a slap with ketchup. I don't want that. It's nasty with me so they like that might be where that goes votes but i'm also not really a pie expert only ever had high once. That was this last thanksgiving. Though what do i know this is turning into an american ninja warrior podcast because googling something but piling has its origins in the pie in the face gag from slapstick comedy but it doesn't say why right why hi and why why not a pie that you would actually eat because that's like that's like taking a watermelon and in you know eating cold watermelon but it's not actually watermelon and being gone watermelon eating but also why is it funny when someone smashes watermelons open with a mallet right. It'd be like smashing. A watermelon opened with a mallet but it's not a real watermelon anybody would eat. It's like a fake watermelon. Smashing fake watermelons or that is now. It's a punishment because it's still a tree. It's like a isn't gonna drive by tweet truth. If you get a little watermelon you like delicious. I'll take that if you get like a nice cherry pie apple pie. Whatever on you okay at least i can eat the remaining remainder that remains on me. That's cool the cream so this is sticky in nascar. Don't want any of this. Get it off me. Gotta fill the punishment got to feel the heat. I wouldn't i wanna see them. <hes> smashing apple pies real real. They're not hot but warm okay like like like. They wished they could eat it but instead. It's in their face. That's what i want but that's not what they have. They have whipped cream on pie crusts and they have to pi- themselves in the face this by each other in the face and then late in the night. They have to apply sleeping tommy nick and christie in the face. Yes yes so already. They've they're making their money's worth out of this <hes> this segment. It's gonna be a whole thing you know. It's coming but by i part the best part was nicole. Slap in a pie into knicks sleep face. Waking up groggy is walking into the bathroom mall angry to wipe it off. It was pretty funny. I was actually really okay. I was actually watching them have to slap each other in the face with pies. The fact of the really really works out here because they kind of have this standoff situation where everyone thank each other holding up high and they're okay who's gonna go first. Who's going to go first avenue good twice in a row and by the second time they were just letting each other yeah that was good. I click click pointed out the good the bad and the ugly yeah exactly so it's pretty fun. The worst part of the pie in the face is the massive mess it makes it gets everywhere air and it smells bad and they have to clean it and so that's that's going to be very tiring for them. I think moving forward look an adjacent jason part of the punishment and the prank. Is that the answer going to fuel day with this watch yeah. This is going to be a hot mess and you're gonna be all now. We're we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back to the show then we we get to some more strategy. Talk so holly is going to let christie know what she's thinking. In a part of me thought like holly was not not really planning on talking to kristie until later in the next day and i thought maybe if she doesn't talk christie in time she might never talk to christie christie being upon and then she might learn that she only gets one nomination and she might never have to reveal to christie that she would use her as upon but no not the case yeah. She ends up telling christie late in the night in the way she said it to. I i do not like approach. She's here because when she was talking to jackson she was like hey kristie volunteered were cashing in this is it she goes to christie. She's like they've been like chatting and super friendly like hey. We're friends. We're his friends now and you'd never put me on the buck right and so they get down to business like okay. So what are your thoughts and holidays like so what i'm thank king is maybe using. Maybe you has upon <music> which really opens the door. It's like a question and it opens the door for christie to be like oh no really how you already come on. I mean you did say you. Wouldn't this chris. I you know i guess yeah i guess i did. I just didn't expect it to be so soon. It's <hes> you know like oh yeah. I kid you did say that. You would yeah yeah i didn't. I didn't say that i was just so soon and you know what i mean. It's like i don't know if reno <hes> i mean i get it but you really wanna one and the fact that she came into this with no confidence and off of a very like heartfelt. I'm just fighting with you talking about your life your family and your dog and all that to this and not having any confidence set in reminds me of what you owe someone money or money like in tarrant so that ten dollars you. I'm going to need it today. Sorry below something came up on anita out. You're okay yeah. You asked me respect like yeah no problem but if i'm a tear in that ten dollars is there any chance age and it's cool like whatever can get it today. I make it seem like do you have room to push javan. Honestly i have it right now off really bully you know we talked about it and you said you give it to me by the end of august taste yeah here you but i just didn't expect you like. Are you really gonna push me this soon for ten dollars i i mean. Is that what you're doing. Just so i mean we talked about it like that's how it works. You should've just you're aww hey a. Deal's a deal. I love you. I appreciate you. I'm so glad you're here to share this moment with me and my letter and my beat snacks which we'll talk about but but you have to go you have to pay the share of what you just did is cool cool cool cool. That's how <hes> yeah so. She goes goes onto explain that nick would be the target and christie is like okay <hes> like as long as like. Are you going to tell people in the next year targeting christmas holidays look. I don't know if i need to tell people. I just don't want people to think that maybe that he's not the target and holiday. I don't think people would think oranges and yeah okay. It's not a great conversation for as much as i don't like how holly approach the situation. I also don't love how christie approach approach this situation because you can tell right. Kristie feels that she got one over on halloween jackson. Christie christie is riding very high after the eviction after six leaves. She's like i am god. I just pull this off and nobody can touch me. I am on top of the world holly one whatever i've got her in the vaga my pocket <hes> and i can do anything in this game and then holly is like so i'm thinking about maybe putting you on the block clock and she's like wait a minute. No no i am the mastermind here. I've i've done this. You don't talk to me like she. She is is to confidence too old too high on on her own supply here of the universe and and holly holy recognizes that like holly was holly's image of christie. The one that christie sold to holly was cleese. I'll do so anything. I'll do anything to just one more. We please just one more one more week and then so it's like okay okay one more week. Thank you so much judge. Yes okay yeah. That's great. Thank you for that one week. Wait a minute. No no hey neuro dopamine in the block just one more week. Please just one more one more week. It's it's it's not it's not working. It's not working. Kristie doesn't handle this particularly. Well and holly comes away from this conversation like this woman woman. She's going to act like she is in charge of this we we just saved her. You know you know what she said to me jackson. She said thank you for your vote. For my vote my vote we three hassled. We finessed that subtly. We kept tearing the game my vote the a classic case of receiving. I didn't really need you. I kind of made it work myself hollyoaks. Where's my credit. Where's my banners. Whereas my thank you berat throw from me now for making this work for you. You gotta be at my feet. Thank thank you thank you for just making me the pond. I appreciate that so much you did so much from you already so by getting what they want out of this and it's not good for either of them and especially with christy. I feel like she just wanted a day to kind of like you know bask in the glory that that was her accomplishment and she got like four hours so it wasn't enough it was still schuessel coming off of that high so all things considered everything should have gone the way it should have gone but i feel like all this did was a blur the lines with east to and their allegiance to one another moving forward. Yes so holly l. e. jackson nicole and cliff all come together and chat. They let nick nicole and cliff know that christie is going up on the block and that she's cashing in that that offer and this is more talk of working together talk about how they hold the votes they control the votes of this week they only need three and that means jackson jackson nicole and cliff control votes. That's cliffs subtle way of being like make sure that we're not on the block because that way we control the votes no matter what because they were worrying that this whole prankster nonsense would make cali do something dumb like one of them on the block so so they're like. Hey just remember the we can. We control troll the votes this week us three. If we're voting we can show the votes and and so they talk about working moving forward all that stuff and everybody feels feels good about this conversation. Yeah i think the this alliance of four or voting block of four or five zero four four hour you describe it in their private looks looks like it's the solid thing right now. These four seem like they're going to be good with one another at least for right now. I think they're all happy with their situation this week and the way they're going to be set up. Yes then after clinical leave. That's one holiday gets into it with jackson about about christie and now she said and thank you for my vote. Vote and holly says that christie was not on board with going up and blogging jackson acidy <hes> of course but they're still trying to convince themselves that they made the right move right but still this would have been much harder. If if it was assists in the house yeah definitely would have been much harder would have been there would have been people coming after us and the other other reasons definitely other reasons too that we didn't make a mistake. I mean you're the age that got rid of. Sis this on your rain. When you have the person you've been target for a month. You got to work overtime to convince yourself that you made the right call. It's not lost on me that two seasons in our own out the winner of the slip open slide has gone on to not do what we thought they should've done so we'll see this as offer open does but we'll see i got this. I gotta say sis. This was an improvement over scotty. I mean we're making baby steps. We're getting there yeah so <hes> holly is now thinking because of the way that christie was acting that she she saying without saying they got duped they got duped by christie and now instead of you know now. She wants to put up nick and christie. Now instead of ethnic wins the veto put jessop said jess home. She's thinking jessup. Send christie home. She moved off one. May yes so oh so now. Kristie is in some danger with jackson and holly. There's also a funny moment where jackson just goes. Oh my god that creeped treat me so much. I just saw someone in the mirror and it really does like like he's he. He just can't get over it. He's like continues to try to start to talk strategy and he's sorry it was so weird sway people living in our walls and he just kept kept like he just kept staring because he could keep seeing the person. He's just looking person standing there yeah. I'm going to continue what i feel 'cause because they always know. Aren't they know people are there but once you see them as well not like there's a third person in this room and i don't quite feel comfortable continuing until they're gone and also i was off arts. It's terrifying yeah you just like chilling in your bedroom with your significant other chatting away and then all of a sudden this person standing in your mirror just watching year you like the thing nightmares that's big brother for you. <hes> so jackson wonders okay because christie holly is concerned hollies like i always took a shot at nick once. I can't keep shooting blanks adam we got. I don't want to miss my shot at nick again. If i can help it so jackson suggests well. What if we back door nick but if we if we did that now odds are still pretty likely that he plays in the veto because there's only eight people people but maybe he doesn't fight his heart. Maybe maybe that's the case holidays like put justin christie up initially initially it might make nick not fight us hard. You know the last time i put him on the block. He had a fire in him. He won that veto. He took himself down. I don't want that to happen again. Jack says there's a sixty percent chance he plays. If you leave him off the block versus the one hundred percent chance he plays if you put him on the block and hand even if he does play when he's off the block the might not play with this intensity so it's not a bad argument but he's not i don't think they're thinking about the ramifications of putting both christie and just on the block and how that damages their relationship with those two people yeah and i like how the initially the night begins with them being terrified of oh my god. I won the prank week what's going to happen. It's going to ruin everything. Everything's looking sketchy like they're terrified and now they're thinking you know what let's it's not the regular normal in that we were. Let's go wild and just like gamble and not you know. Jackson loves a good game. Jackson's always talking about gambling so jackson. I'm doing this. I mean mathematically. Yes yes hundred percent versus sixty good call whatever cool but at the same time with eight is just too little take what's going to happen and the social dynamics will come into harm here and the fact that we know one nominee is out of her hands regardless of how she puts them. Now it gets it's interesting because earlier i talk about. Well obviously her first quarter. If that's not the case what's gonna happen for what it's worth. I think his odds would be slightly less than sixty percent because of houseguests choice chips and i don't think any of those any of holly christie or just would choose nick to play play in the veto so it actually i mean it is somewhat beneficial if the social dynamics aren't part of it so holidays holidays like okay so i'll put christie and just on the block. They're actually like you know what maybe let's. Let's do this. Let's i'll talk to christine. Just try to get you know get a a vibe on going and then if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out whatever honestly any of the three of them jess christie or nick going home whatever we don't care as long as one of them goes home. We are fine. Gotta wait and see if that's how it pays off but they won h they're safe so and the fact that we know is looking like nicole or cliff most likely winning this upcoming prankster who h o._h. Than they're sitting on the street and they're kind of audio time the fact that they were you know they know they were on the outs and they've won the last asprey like jackson said yesterday you're guaranteed. That's pretty good game of big brother so it's interesting how holly l. e. Also also is going to make fun of christie's campaign speech a campaign speech. She's like she's promising all missing. All of these things like saying that she's we know she's not true to her word. We know her word means nothing. It's the dumbest thing paulie at work done you. What do you media was stupid. What do you mean it wasn't believable. You believe day you tear come to anti most of you after she five one way out of this what all the person who did nothing what oh g definitely swindled. Y'all oh boy so so that's the plan but again. I think this plan is very tenuous because we do not know. Oh where things stand with this twist vets that you know fro- we know olisa defeats actually just came back and they did. They were told about the prankster. Oh this is this is breaking breaking news guys. I don't know how much they were told about it but hopefully we can find out soon because this matters if they know about the prankster mr and and how the prankster works then that will change. I believe the plan from holly's point-of-view she may go or she may decide against. This probably will decide against this backdoor plan because if she can't control one of the nominations if veto is used then she can't trust that <hes> that nick will be put on the block as a replacement nominee <hes> so i would imagine that in this case if she knows she only has one nominee. She's going to make sure it's nick back to make sure that he just ends up on the block period but i i don't know exactly how much they know yet so yeah <unk> knows she has one phnom says long ranger okay well there you go out. Good bear will be the case. The interesting thing is that if it is nicole or if it is whether they end up colluding colluding with holy hell her then they can work together on this then dot with change things as well a little bit potentially but i do think if she thinks she has control of one. I just got to take my shot. I just got to put him up to guarantee that. At least he's on the told our yeah if there's collusion and nicole has it then i'm willing to bet that nicole tells holly i would rather not put nick up on the block myself and hollywood probably do it and be that a person and the nicole would put up. Somebody like like christie as pawn if they don't collude. Perhaps they're not allowed to say that because they were told it exists even if you're not allowed to say it. They're probably gonna say it without saying. There's probably going to be collusion especially because i have to imagine imagine the most of them will assume that it's either cliff or nicole. Maybe they think it might be tommy but if if it lands on christine christie's the nomination and they're not gonna think it's tommy so i think there's going to be collusion. I think that ultimately what will probably happen is that holly will decide okay. I'll nominate nick nicole or cliff you nominate christie cliff would have less qualms. I think about nominating nick if holly wanted <hes> um but i think either way the back door plan is probably not as solid as it was last night yeah i would. I would feel the same way as well especially especially because holly came into this big thing i everyone knows i have one person. Who should i probably if she wakes up this morning. Thanks well. I don't want to like make other room. Out of marijuana ruined the social dynamics than just put up and i'm fine and now someone else has to do the other side. That's good with me. Choose will see us and somebody was asking <hes> is this true. Yes hollies dog is named jackson. Yes yeah not a coincidence. That's not me trying to insult jackson. That's i'm saying i'm stating a fact fact yeah. She has a dog at home named jackson. One of the big brother house named jack kidding jackson's a nice ice big boy. It's it's really it's funny again like they continue to have this sort of passive aggressive back and forth where anytime jackson tries to make a suggestion he's like and this is me not trying to push anything on you being very respectful to women and you and and not i. I'm not interrupting you. Am i am not interrupting you. I'm just throwing thing out there. It's completely your your decision and do you and then like she. She's like she's like. I'm so stressed about this and i'm a freaking out about it and he's like and look look i. I don't want to comfort you because you don't need comfort because you're strong woman but if you want me to i can. This is the jackson after all. The warnings just tight rope in his way through this game. There wasn't last night where america's seeing what's going on and everything you keep doing what you're doing. It was kinda like the goupil. Who's a boy your boy version of their authorization. Keep doing what you're doing. You're usually yes he <hes> he was talking to holly about how assists walked out to know like barely any applause and he was like i don't. I don't think they liked her. She was so confident that she was a fan favourite and much and they kind of just talked about like how holly he kept reassuring him like hey america loves a comeback story. You know you've been colluding for awhile about like how to rehabilitate jackson's image and i've gotta say they've been more successful at that than in the game yeah definitely it was really fun last night watching kristie talk about how oh six runs l._a. Citizens just she's famous got a million. I could see i could definitely you. See it and just nick nick not so much trouble jackson really trying not to want to be like no like she's got. Nobody like she's not famous than in nixing. She's not famous. She would have not done things that she's done in this house. If he was famous there's no way and then talking about influencers and the philosophy behind influencers and their age of popularity and all of that but just christie being so certain that sis is famous and runs l._a. In jacksonville since in jersey probably famous wristy not in l._a. Yeah yeah yeah that's yeah. You did bring that up. She's gonna she's gonna find out that she's not a specialist. She thinks she is so so it seems as though there are now some talks happening between holly and nick collie tommy talking about potential bill nominations <hes>. I don't see anything solid yet. Though so again i would assume that she just goes with nick but i have to imagine that she's concerned that and she says she is that whoever america's prankster is might end up putting jackson on the block next to her nominee nominees so <hes> <hes>. I don't think that changes much again. She'd probably just be like okay. The nick is going to go up on the block next to whoever it is but also i imagine they'll find out out soon who the prankster is probably think yes. We'll see we'll see. This'll just fortify hi that hey if there's even a shot jackson goes up. I need to put nichols. Who was my clear target and someone that would out just to make sure that that's the one and then jackson go ahead data. Make it happen a lot of thinking veto this. There was a lot of speculation las lied about that being the competition coming up around here yeah so i definitely possible i believe the zing about hosted hide and go veto last season <hes> and <hes>. I think it also was <hes> heightened. Go veto was after slip inside last season so but it was around the same time so it would not surprise me at all if this was the veto jackson said that it's gonna last all day because now everyone knows about defensive strategy yeah no honestly it does seem like talked about just burying them and repairing them emmett repairing them so that's going to happen and what better prank on the entire house than to make them deal with the house. That's completely ruined after gobierno so tracks. I feel like so i will say one more thing. I think that if there is no collusion for whatever reason nicole or cliff gets the the power and they feel like they can get away with it anonymously. They might put up tommy instead of christie but that probably doesn't matter because unless nick wins the veto and then christie goes up that matter a little bit but we'll we'll have to wait and see there's still a lot that can happen depending on who gets the power and if there is collusion or not you can find out about all of that by tomorrow morning at eleven eastern when i am back to update today on the big brother twenty one prankster live feeds tune in for that makes you find me on twitch twitch dot e._d._u. Slash armstrong live yesterday during the assists and jackson nonsense and then after the wage we chatted for awhile brent and amman <hes> joined me we we got deep guys. Check out check out twitch tricia sharon. I'm sean you can also find me on twitter at armstrong taryn. I'm working people find you can find me all major platforms at is alright. Thank you so much for joining us today. 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Big Brother 21 Wednesday July 24 Morning Update LIVE 11e/8p

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Big Brother 21 Wednesday July 24 Morning Update LIVE 11e/8p

"<music> every morning Darrien Room yes again sees the reason you do tomorrow will do again. Hello everyone and good morning morning. Welcome to our live feed updated for July twenty fourth. I'm Heroes Turn Armstrong and with me today Bobby Bobby. I'm tearing one thing I did find out from the people online is apparently I say yes had no or no yeah a lot in my conversations with you so I'm going to be working on that today. If I do that. Please call me out. It's something I working on because Zion vocabulary out of my system so call me out here and if I say yeah no to start you know what people no matter what you say. They're going to have some pet peeve about your verbiage so you gotta just be you and not not be bothered by them. They should I found it hilarious. Because once I went back we watched I really the essay that a lot and so I wanNA work on it. Yeah no all right so I'll tell you when everything that happened yesterday on the Big Brother Twenty one live feeds day thirty five in the House and it's actually pretty interesting. I think it was it was I thought I was going to be able to have a nice easy morning. They do not not a whole lot to prepare but there actually was a lot of movement happening and a lot of pieces shifting around so we've got lots of talk about here. Yeah lots of stuff to talk about. I didn't do at that time almost it. Hi Yeah no lots of stuff. That's a lot of moving parts and working on a terry. It's hard see you've done it now. Done it to yourself you out and now people are gonNA listen for it and all right. Well we start the day a few different storylines across the day. One of the story lines is is Christie and this really ties into a lot of what we've been talking about with cliff this decision to nominate Bella Four Christie to try to get an in with her a does seem to be working right now. In particular that this six does seem to be fracturing Christie is talking fantasists about how she really does want Jackson Gone Kinda soon and that she would want to put Jackson up with holly when the time comes and so they're talking about that SIS sisters response to most game talk is yeah but we have to be gaming right now I just want to can we talk about instagram. I just want to be an instagram influence. That's it's my dream and I would love to talk about that Christie. I can only imagine what her instagram is like has. She is just the most interesting person in the house. INSTAGRAM must be an off but yet the she she is not ah one to one to talk any type of game and it's really frustrating to watch because she she just has no passion to talk game at all especially when it comes to someone like Jackson I feel like between Jackson Jackson. She doesn't want to talk game about them. At all all she'll pipe up and talk crap for like a good minute or so and then she'll she'll lose energy again and stop wanting to talk game and I'm. I'm really really not kidding when I say that like she genuinely said she wanted to be an instagram influence over like I'm not that it's not me exaggerate yeah. It's there's no way I just don't see it in the cards sis. I think she can do a lot in life but I think instagram influence there might not be one. <hes> you know you never know. You never know you never know hey. She's got. She's got the platform now to fall back. Just let see the personality I mean she's GonNa be on the show until final three. At least she's got plenty of time to build an audience. She's got all the time in the world I mean when it comes down to Jack and and like in Christie and these people people insists I think she's going to start to look like one of the more palatable people I don't know barely at best. She's going to be the most palatable person but that's not really saying much of this house. Yeah alright so so so that's happening. There cliff is going to talk with Nicole and cat about the vote and cat is advising them to keep Jack around that they can't make a move yet justice going to walk in as well and they start talking about working together. They're further discussing the vote. Justice also against voting Jack out this week talking about how they have to trust Christie they have to trust that she is with them and that she doesn't want to go to the end with the couples and so it's it's very much discussion about that and they talk more around like okay well. If if we can trust that we can get Christie's target somebody like Jackson before they they get to the six then we might actually had this might be the best decision that we might be voting to keep Jack and and that's maybe the right move they talk more about working together moving forward and how they will work it if the if the if the six does break up and and that'll be good and they they can be working together and they even come up with a name for an alliance and that cat calls them cliffs angels and Cliff Luke Says No no. Please don't plan to know that Karma on me do not do that. We've seen how that works in the past not put that on me say yeah the I I. We're equal partners. I just don't I don't feel like it's a good thing to have a any one. Particular person makes it seem like Erin charge because that's not the case. We're equal and cats. Just is like no no. It's really good like Yeah I love it and he's like no machine Austin's angels. We've seen in season thirteen widely. What's the guy's name or his angels? He keeps angels. Yeah do not want to have that kind of Karma in blood on your hands we see what happens when that happens yes but he kids steamrolled over by the passion Russian in the women in the room and he is unable to prevent this from becoming the name and so the new alliance cliffs Angels Has Been Born and they even do a little pose with with guns and <hes> include stands behind them and they were go cliffs angels. It's alive alive and well yeah I did so he had they really vote me that air allowing this to have been cliff. You should know better as a superfan. Do not let this half its yourself. What can you do though what can you do? You can't be to adamant about one or you want to work with US cliff the way you afraid you're free. Don't trust us. You don't trust us to keep the name secret is that what's going on all right so cat is going to go to Christie and now cat. We've been talking about her. She's been slowly improving her game. I think over the course of the season and she now is in a position where I still would prefer her to vote Jack Out of the game. I think that's her best move here. She doesn't think so she thinks the safe remove is to continue it to be in with Christie and that may be the better move. I don't think it's nearly as black and white as it has been in the past because both her and cliff have been doing a very good job of working their way in and weasling their way in to this six personal lions and getting it to fracture fracture apart and so I have to give cats some credit here. There's also going to be some mistakes. She makes in regards to holly later on the day but she is going to talk with Christie for now and talk about how she doesn't like Jackson you know I just maybe maybe it's a mistake for me to say this but I just really don't even want him to make jury and there's only one more week before jury and Christie agrees she says I I don't like him. I T disgusts me. I don't like how he treats women. I don't like how he treats you. I don't like how he treats holly ever. Since he got on slop he's been such a slob and he's been so miserable and he expects everyone else to cook for him and then he eats all of the food it's ridiculous and and so Christie says do you know what else you know. What else Jackson was the rogue vote? Jackson was the rogue vote that week and cats as no we were. I was just talking to cliff about it and he didn't Oh sorry and she says and Cliffnote told cliff about it the other day and it's just talking to clip about it and he didn't say anything and she was like you'll yeah because I promised him I made him swear not to tell anyone and cat starts explaining because in that you know cliffs angels thing he was telling them. Don't tell people where your vote lies because there's a rogue vote person out there and if they know what the vote count is than they might feel comfortable casting the rogue vote and trying to blame it on you guys autocad tries to explain that cliff told them that but of course this is cat trying to explain it so she doesn't explain it very well and Christie misunderstands it. I like Oh wait is is cliff trying to flip. The vote is trying to keep Bella cannot can I trust chinatrust cliff cat. Can I trust him and Catholic. Yes yes no he wants. He wants Bella gone and you can trust him and Christie's like okay good because I'm getting really emotional I. I don't know why we're getting emotional. I just I trust him. So much and I love cliff so much I wanted to be able to trust. She starts crying about this and she's tired starts talking about how much she loves him and how much she regrets regrets voting him out and all of these things I just feel it again. Just like people have been so down on this move but it made some genuine inroads here with Christy. She has no reason to fake cry and lie about it to cat and certainly Christie is subject to change her feelings on people but I mean because she's so subject to change <hes> on people. I think that's why one of the reasons why this six isn't as solid as we might fear especially considering all the talk about talking Jackson about targeting Jackson soon so very very interesting stuff coming from this conversation yeah couple things to pull from that also I think they're going by hogs. honeys now instead of close angel so Chinese has the little bettering to it and suggested hogs honeys. I heard that that was the thing is cliff said no to cliffs Angel and then so jess was like what about hogs honeys she. She made a couple of other names but I'm pretty sure hog cliffs angels was admit decider here really I mean he really just told them not to all of the no Jackson's really rubbing people the wrong way in this house between the way he treats people when he's on Slop <hes> he's just intriguing people in general in including the diary room. I feel like he's got a real bad Mac in this house away. He's he's being portrayed because you could be a couple of things you know you've alluded to. He might have some kind of eating disorder. We're not sure about what's going on with that situation but he has had some kind of problems where his anger has been coming out and I think Christie and cat are able to see that entire pieces together as far as Christie's. He's paranoia another situation in this house where we see Christie. Go absolutely beserk <hes> for no reason freaking out. Honestly I just don't see how she's long in this game if she continues to have these outbursts and Dan this time it worked at okay cat was able to come down and show that you know cliffs dot working against you. Cliff wants to work with this team going forward. He wants to get allow his he put her on the block. He has no reasons of backstab the majority when he just clip on for them so I just the paranoia with her so rampant in so common that I really think this is GonNa eventually backfire her backfire on her in the game. They're being any way that her paranoia doesn't catch up with her. She's very overextended right now. In terms of Sam and Nick are going to be talking throughout the day about her and Dan how overextended she is and how much of a liar she is and they plan on trying to out her game moving forward especially if Bella leaves and tried to expose her as much as possible part of Bellas campaign later in the day we'll be talking about. Maybe maybe not specifically Christie about the fact that Jackson Holly are on the bottom of the six which is true very true and so cat knows that Christie's after Jackson Cliff knows that Christie you talked a lot about Jackson. Christie has expressed these thoughts to cysts. She's talked to Tommy. Obviously she can trust Tommy and probably trust says but says my might accidentally leak at some point because she says but it's it's spreading it's out there. Just Jess is aware of these things like this could get back to Jackson and holly very easily and they are starting to worry and we'll talk about that as well but they're starting to realize that they haven't really been talked to for a while and that the they've come together as a group and they're being left out of talks lately and so this this tension is building. It's it's really building and Christie is at the heart of it all so I could very easily see something happened here with with Christie or at the very least with this six blowing up this is starting to reach a boiling point over the course of the day. There are a lot of different pieces in motion to to break these six apart honestly if they're able to peace these parts together Jackson and holly on talking about if they're able to piece together we might see vote flip. I wouldn't rule it out completely because if they're able to piece together that they're the biggest targets is added those six. They might WanNa do a flip. I may be too little too late. At this point. We saw we'll probably get too but we saw beller trying to work around last night talking to people talking game. I don't see happening but if something happened in the next twenty four hours we might be able to see something happen and turn against the sits yeah. I have more hope that things will break up after this week because I don't think that holly in Jackson are willing to to flip flip this week but there's definitely especially at the end of this this update we have a conversation late at night with Christie and Tommy that I think is very telling in terms of where they're looking to go in the future but we'll get there so so kristie she's crying how much she trusts cliff and how much she wants to be working with them. She regrets ever going against him. Cat is protecting Klis interest in this conversation making sure that Ah that Christie knows that cliff is trustworthy so things are working along. Those lines cat is also going to go to holly and this is where I think she I think cat starts to over extend yourself and let me say also that I I think cat is in a little bit of trouble here. Cat has been starting to do a better job but she's also I think over extending a little bit she this this sort of back and forth between Christie and Holly and Jackson is is very dangerous and and and cliff and jess in particular there are a lot of different people that could completely out cat and and make her the center of a hey. She's a rat. She's running around to everyone because she is and it's it's a very tricky spot to be a reminds me of the early days of Paul in season eighteen when he was just very obviously a rat and people were starting to be like hey maybe he has potential in this game but at the time it was still very dangerous and he got caught multiple times and had to get bailed out by by some battle backs so having victor comeback meaning so so interesting stuff cap so she's going to go to Hawley and talk to her about like hey. I'm saying hang this for your sake. It has nothing to do with game but Jackson She Jackson he's talking about how hot Caitlyn is and how he's going to slide into her. D._M.'s and all of this stuff like she feeds eventually so we don't know the full extent of this conversation but we hear a little bit of it from Holly later which is why this is so dangerous that cat still thinks that she can turn Holly Against Jackson but it does not appear appear to be possible at this moment at the very least and the more cat tries with holly but more holly is later going to Jackson to rat cat out about the fact that cat is anti-jackson hollies warning Jackson not to be you talking crap about about cat on the feeds because that's a bad look but to be very wary of cat because catch keeps trying to turn her against Jackson so this is where cat really needs to start being careful because because this is one of the ways that she can get get caught and exposed your holly is not as is not on board with her as much as cat thinks and I think is most loyal to holly over anyone else. The the same is not true for holly colleagues more loyal to Jackson here so that's very tricky situation for it's a real lovers quarrel between Jackson and his former girl that he was talking talking to the beginning and now he's talking to now and they know each other from outside the house. It's a real full circle thing but yet cat needs to be careful. Is she says the wrong thing to the wrong person. It's GonNa it's GONNA get out. We saw that at the House meeting and a couple of days days ago when you you have that screech out of her eyes bulging out freaking out thinking that someone was going to reveal something that she said that she's been in the middle of because eventually it's GonNa come out and I feel like if she doesn't back off or at least stop doing what she's doing. It's GONNA catch up to her sooner rather than later especially with the Holy Jackson she thinks you can trust holly. I really think that Jackson has holly in his pocket and as far as holly I think that she needs to let up a little bit and be willing to hear these different things coming to her especially about Jackson because one we know how how he talks about her when these not when she is not in the room and also the fact that for her her game she needs to be open to the ability of cutting him or hearing other options because people are going to stop coming to her with information about Jackson or about other people in the house if she continues to blow them off or you know go tell to Jackson said about him so cathy needs to be careful. I feel like holly needs to open up more and be willing to have these conversations. Yes alright so Chrissy is going. Tommy is going to talk with Christie and cliff and they're they're having a conversation together in the boat room hanging out and and Tommy will finally admit to being the guy that stole orwell and hit oil the he admits that they stole all well and that was the day that they they caught him talking to himself in the boat room and they thought maybe he was America's player and so they hit or well to try and see you know you're gonNA freak out like is he not going to be able to complete tasks. 'CAUSE Orwell is gone and because all I don't care that's that's totally fine it was it was strictly strategy. We were trying to figure out if you were America's player because I'm just glad that I that it wasn't my faults. I'm just glad that it wasn't my fault so they everything's all good but but the secrets finally been revealed that they were the ones that hid or well there to hit him with me and I still. Yeah how dare they take that from cliff. He is knowing no one's America's favorite player. Let's not ever let that come back and they don't put that out there. In the Universe Bella is going to campaign to Jackson and holly now Bella has been talking Bella spends most of the day with Nick and discussing her plan and going over her plan in her plan is that she wants to flip Jackson and Hawley and get them to vote for her and she's GonNa Campaign to multiple pairs of people so that it doesn't seem like she's only going to one particular pair of people but Jackson Holly are big her big targets here in terms of getting them to flip their vote and so when she goes to them she makes her campaign. She says hey I'm bigger target Jackson bigger threat. I haven't won any competitions. Jack has won multiple competitions. He's come close to winning other competitions. This guy is dangerous and this is your chance to take him out. She says whereas I am not a threat but I am a big target and I will volunteer myself go on the block. I will always have hold the spot on that block. I will be somebody that is targeted before you. If you vote to keep me you can blame your vote on other people like cat or jess or whoever and and you can still you can take Jack out you can get away with it. I'll still be in the house. I'll be a number for are you and you need numbers because you're on the bottom of the six. They're going to turn on you. I and this is what they had just been talking about. As I mentioned before holly was talking to Jackson about the fact that nobody was talking to them anymore and that they haven't been involved in any game talk doc lately and so this is something that actually does strike a bit of a chord with them and they do start to consider it a little bit after Bella leaves and they start thinking. Maybe we need to think about this a little bit here ultimately. This is not going to particularly go anywhere. They holly is going to keep some of the details. Secret Jackson is going to be a little more open about this conversation when he retails it but but this is something that they did briefly consider and Bella is going to feel a little bit hopeful NFL after the conversation last night when I got off work. This was the first conversation I got to watch on after dark who in turn on the T._v.. She did a great job in this situation Jim. I felt like she brought some very good points up to the the conversation I started. I was nervous because you can tell she was nervous and she wasn't really sure exactly what she wanted to say. She started to Kinda second-guessed yourself. We're Kinda stumble on her words and Jackson had the audacity to say oh you it's okay just get it out now. This'll be trial run like he's just not going to give her the time of day night. Even hear her out like Manley they'll be like that and then as she progress you got more and more confident what she was saying and I thought she brought up some very very valid reasons reasons why she should stay in then at the end of it you see Jackson and Holly Talking and actually considering some of the things that she was talking about so I I love this coversation or loved that she was able to bring this up. I think it might be too to little too late. Maybe if we would have had this conversation earlier in the week it would've brought up some some more opinions on keeping her around but if I just feel like it's a little too little too late but I'm happy that she did and I think she did a good job yes so so she mentioned that she also is going to say that she has or can get Nicole's vote and she also says that she can get cliff to break tie and her favor and now that is of course throwing Nicole and cliff under the bus this year and Nicole in particular is going to continue to have her reputation damaged by this particular comment but cliff remains untouched here. They don't believe Christie when this gets back to Christie Christie does not believe that that is true and that Bella all is making it up and that would never do that because cliff promised and so cliff is also going to kind of preemptively combat this this idea that he would break tie in Bellas favor with Jack. He's going to talk with Jack and promise him that if it's a tie he will vote to keep Jack and he wants to. He's ready to jump on board with them. They they do believe cliff even though cliff is lying to them and he says that we want to work with you guys moving forward all of this stuff they have a conversation about it. He also warns them that that Bella has some kind of plan in the works that doesn't involve cat in Jess and so they start talking about that as well like if it doesn't involve cat and jess who does it involve well. She was talking to holly and Jackson and then when Holly described the conversation she seemed like she was leaving out some details and so further cracks are being made and spread <hes> and so these things are continuing to move on Bella is going to talk with cliff eventually later in the night and make her pitch to him as well and he says he's he's on board to make it work. He can't promise her anything because he does not want to fall in this pit if falls but if the things work if everything gets comes together then he he is willing to be on board and so she makes the entire same pitch that she made into Bella to Holly Jackson. She says that she feels like they might actually be on board. Cliff is a bit more skeptical. He feels like Jackson is absolutely the kind of person who would pretend to be on board to to get to have the people willing to do this exposed which is very much the case and and so he's a little more skeptical he tells he's talking to talk to jess about the plan again after as well just would also theoretically be on board if something made if something would work in that way especially if Jackson Hollywood the people to make it happen cliff is GonNa talk to the cameras and say I love big brother. I hope this works but I don't think it's going to and if it doesn't I can't expose my spot here. I need to make sure that Christie continues to to trust me. I'm willing to make the move but it has to work and I we'll see we'll see how it goes well. He's definitely not going to blow up his spot to Bella Trust for her to not say anything to anybody. Hey Buddy given her reputation in their house taking one thing and going running with it and telling the whole house I think he's sincere when he says if the ability is there to take that shot I definitely willing to take it but I'm not going to promise do that because he he doesn't think it's possible and right now. It's not looking like it could be but the cracks are there. You said it yourself. The cracks are there. If things happen and people are able to put a couple of things in place we can see that et crack happen but I don't. I don't know I just I have a hard time thinking it will book man would that be great to finally seeing that side of the house Basam kind of controversy and be great to watch yes and so there's a lot more. There's a lot of general enroll Chitchat and like hanging out that happens throughout the day. There's a lot of talk in the have not room with Christie Jess and Christie and cat as I mentioned Jackson is going to spill a decent amount of the EH conversation that he had with Bela. There's a lot of talk anytime. Bella does anything it pretty immediately goes back to two Christie who gets upset about it. Bella is going to campaign to Tommy and to to Christie and digests and all of these people those are of course even just from Bellas perspective are like a smokescreen. The real plan is to try and get Jackson and holly bottom line here is that it doesn't seem like it's going to work and most of this. This hubbub is going to be for not but is continuing to make cracks in this group six person thing and Christie is going to continue to be annoyed with Jackson in who continues to eat food in the shower and just generally be unpleasant. He's when when him in Hollywood talking about how the people aren't talking to them. Jackson's is going to be like yeah. I've just I've just been so you know my head has been you know hurting. I've just been so outta vividly and hollies like yeah yeah me too. I've just been nop and really in and he's like well. You're not on slop. He she's such different person when he's not able to eat thirty five times a day and it's Ridley gotten to the point where even watching him I wanted to switch the feeds because he's always going to say something. Negative live and I get it like that. House can do number on the but Leeann the guy just cannot live a normal life without being irritated whenever he can't have food like I can only imagine if he had chicken Georgia's you know the rest of the summer slop situation. Oh my gosh that guy would be out of the house in a week. He was not being able to stand it so I honestly feel bad for Holly. I feel like that she's going to continue to get treated this this way because of the fact that is able d and the stuff with the whole eating in the shower. I've just ready for people to start for the production to actually do something about it. I know they will I know is just GonNa be a slap on the wrist like it usually is breaking the rules and it is really annoying that they allow this to happen and impasse. We've seen people getting vote or is it just frustrating to me so it's the whole situation is ridiculous but it is it is definitely helping further again. These cracks in the alliance and Tommy is going to talk with Christie and they're going to be talking alone and there again talking about the people they trust and who they want to work with moving forward and Christie's talking about her ideal final four final five and she mentioned that she actually loves cash she would love to take cat to the final four final three. Even she feels like they love cat is woke. They say she's woke. She's actually a lot smarter than you. Then you might think and she's she's very political and twin woke they really just keep saying that over and over which is like a little little rich considering the season so far and and so they talk about cat and how cat would be potentially potentially a good person to take down to the end now. We're going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back to the show now unreported story thus far. You're maybe maybe I should have reported. Christie has a crush on cat very much so she really finds cat attractive and she's talked about this with with Tommy before and with Jack and so so the more attention cat gives her the more Christie is like like yes. Let's continue to bring cat in. Let's continue to like let's let's work with her and so Christie is talking about <hes> you know let's go to maybe even the final three with cat. I feel like we are capable of beating cat in the final three competition and God forbid sheets one of us. I'd feel comfortable sitting in the final two against her if she took one of us to at the end and so she's really really starting to feel like she wants to bring cat in and in this discussion she started okay. So if that's the final three we bring sis to the final. Four final three to six is a great option as well. Jack can come with us to the final five and holly so my ideal boot order. She says next the next person I want on nick or Jackson Nick or Jackson are the first two she genuinely wants to target Jackson or nick next then Sam then Nicole then jess then cliff cliff just they can maybe swap them out then Hawley then then the final five. Is You me Jack Sis and cat in so Tommy. Tommy agrees with that order I mean he says all we could bring holly a little further. She doesn't have to go at six necessarily but I think the thing that they're obviously forgetting here. Is that if they take the shot at Jackson next they'll probably have to take out hallway soon. After depending on WHO's the person that takes the shot Jackson but but they both say privately together that Jackson is genuinely one of the two next targets of course this is right now things can change but things can change for the worst and they can also change for the better so these cracks are real and and they are something that I feel at the very least that that Christie is definitely not willing to use her power to save Jackson accent if it came down to that which means that her having her power impacts the game very very little and honestly I again as I sort of proposed a few days ago I'm starting to think it actually might be very beneficial for for the instability of the House that she has this power so again things could go wrong certainly but but but for right now things are looking up. There are a lot of cracks here. I think the fact that again camp comeback was really the thing that kept all of these people together the second ended things started to fracture and they're continuing to fracture and Christie continues to change her mind one to work with other people and and it again for better or worse I think that is GonNa continue to happen and and she will continue to help make the house completely fluid unstable especially if we seem Jackson Wayne H. H. O. H. Next week that it's going to be like the Knicks Nick h all over again where they're like. Oh good job man like Oh. We're so excited. Let's do this. We're still working as a team like organised see that happen all over again even though they clearly wanna work against they they clearly WanNa get him out. He's at the top of the picking where along with nick so it's there's still a lot that can unravel you know. I don't look too far ahead especially since we know it's going to be walk-off. I don't think Jackson has a chance of actually winning winning that but you never know something can happen those things. You never really no but it's not really built for guy his size but yeah i. I'm really WANNA see how this crack goes forward forward and it may be if something were to happen in Jackson gets wind of this. Maybe there can be turnaround and some someone could go against the Economy Christie's Alliance side of the House so we'll see limit. Let me say this. We're looking at a welcome. It's probably a welcome and is certainly they said it's endurance. It could be could be the slip inside as I mentioned before they almost always do a welcome before jury so I'm very much expecting a wall competition petition competition the potential winners. We've discussed this before our cat holly cysts Christie Tommy or Nicole. Maybe I think that if cat wins and I think she's going to be looking to take a shot at Jackson I really do I think that she will be hesitant to because it would blow up her spot and holly will be very opposed to it so I'm not sure that she'd be willing to put Jackson on the block doc. Maybe she'd be willing to backdoor him but also maybe not however I could definitely see Christie using her power to get rid of Jackson in that in that particular instance or at the very least Christie promising to help with her power in the following week. If cat is worried about making the taking the shot herself. I think that there are a lot of options there have cat wins that Jackson might be a little bit in trouble <hes> and and it's not then it'll probably be nick and SAM on the block. I think that if Christie wins she might be she might be crazy enough to take the shot because she feels like she has enough backing between gene cliff and cat and the rest of the fixtures that don't include Jackson Holly. I think that she might be willing to take the job but again I think at that point she probably does not and she would probably go with Nick and Sam and then mm-hmm and then you know maybe then if the veto was used or something along those lines she could maybe think about taking the shot and then if Nicole one no vote the big reason why a lot of people have been like oh he the we needed needed to flush the power is because of the one instance where Nicole happens to win and she takes a shot then Christie would be able to use your power negate Nicole's h h but again I'm I'm really feeling that Christie is happy to not use user power to save Jackson or or even to use her power to save Jack and take out. Maybe Jackson or something along those lines so I think there are a lot of decent options here moving forward and I do think that the more likely person to go home here at this point is still nick or Sam but Jackson is definitely in the in the firing line here and there are a lot of different possibilities. He's that can open up. Yeah I in my opinion. I think there's no way Tommy or Christie doesn't win the wall competition if it's a welcome petition I think it's going to be down to those two. I we saw them in the first H H competition there the last two taken there. I really think this might be the one that Tommy wins and I'd be really interested to see what kind of move I don't know if he's willing to put himself out there because he is in such a good spot he might not want to win it but I I don't know part of me thinks that he might into listening to talk about it. I I not completely sold on the fact that he would actually win this competition. I think it's GONNA come down to one of those to win it. I mean I think this will have a great shot and I think she's the most this boring yeah she. Oh my gosh it'd be terrible but hey maybe we actually see so the ever. Maybe she can prove why she should be an instagram influence there I mean this is the week we see the SYS- instagram moment yeah well. I mean another thing that came out of this conversation is that the target list has flipped a little bit again and nick is is leading the nick is becoming the bigger bigger target over Sam at the moments. I think this is again a situation where if they are targeted then it will be nick and Sam on the block and when they're on the block together people might start to consider well nick is not as much of a threat especially in competitions and then Sam Mike Home I and so on and so forth but but one of the reasons why to clear that Christie Likes Sam and she knows that he likes the game and she would prefer to have Sam jury than and Nick or Jackson and so that's why Christie would like nick were Jackson to leave. I and have Sam come into the jury so there are a lot again a lot of different options here a lot of different ways that this can go and I think this game is a lot more fluid than than most people were giving credit for myself included even just a few days ago so I don't know I'm looking forward to next week. I'm looking forward to actually having some kind of competition to watch the live feeds. At least we're getting that. I thought that was going to happen last week. It didn't happen but yeah now this week. I mean at least look forward to having that surprise waiting for us on Thursday night. Yes all right so anything else. You wanted to bring up bubby. No no I think we covered it all well. <hes> I did much better this time not being able to say no. I did it one time but I I got myself so I'm working on people but thank you Jim. 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Big Brother 21 | Nicole Anthony Post-Season Interview

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Big Brother 21 | Nicole Anthony Post-Season Interview

"Hello everyone and welcome to our big brother twenty one requests left and right you were on with with Andy Cohen and Henry Winkler is right there very organized about it that's very durable so what's what's the all the time using Nicole you're gonna be America's Sweetheart America's GonNa Fall in love with you you're going to find you so adorable and so funny and like like Oh okay maybe some people my humor I think I'm Larry so maybe some people will enjoy it but I was not expecting the magnitude of it like I went and got a Po box and I haven't and it's Nicole Anthony how you doing Nicole doing very well so good to talk to you on thank you likewise it's a lot I've said all season I'm just Nicole from Long Island I'm just Nicole I'm just a preschool aid so it's a very it's a very different life now is a very odd situation yeah how are you handling it or are you okay okay I have okay so I have my little agenda airman was my guru and she told me what to do do you have anybody like that helping you holly helped me create my instagram and then just graph helped me response to expect this at all I mean I know you didn't but cliff tried to tell you that it would happen told me I know that this is this is pretty much the interview that that everybody really wanted to see the most they've been requesting the most wears you think that this is like are you going to become like an instagram person now like are you ready for this I am not ready Nicole Nicole on how come to call hasn't come on yet so it's very very good that you're here thank you so much I write down everything and who I'm talking to and win because otherwise I lose track and I get freaked out so yeah I'm taking the teacher approach and even even worse than living under a rock and now here I am on the Internet posting things and learning about DM so Graham and I have a twitter and I'm still learning all these things they exist for these people that want to reach out to me and I it's weird so we're my twitter and then Rockstar has been helping me figure out what are and how I locate them finally has anyone been sliding into this Colston going through a lot so yeah tell me about that you you you left the show your America's favorite player you're you're getting interviewed he's learning wipe off and you know it's a lot to do you have anyone to help you out I recently joined instagram as well and Caitlyn Shaw how is that super super cool I'm a huge fan of like the sixties and astrologer so meeting Henry Winkler was mind blowing to me messaging me okay that's good that's good all right let's let's yeah like I was in the house will actually so I basically lived under a raw prior to moving into the house coming out of the BB house to be thrown into society and all these people know me all these people want a piece of me at all if you WanNa talk to me a little old me from all like it's very yes I don't like that terminology I don't like the term slide into it but yes there are people that are let's rewind let's go back in time to the beginning of the game what made you want to be on the show in the first place oh my gosh I hadn't watched video this year and got the callback really excited so what was it like finding out you're GonNa be on the show Oh man advantage for a long time and then I remember the season with Steve and he was like oh I was Salutatorian in my class does it all my gosh that's like me I relate to him and then in later seasons you know seeing Paul Strategy and I fell in love with how he played the game and then I really started saying to myself I can do this I know I can do this as an educator and how I assess the classroom aw like this can't be happening this is surreal and weeks later here I am walking into the house and it is the most phenomenal feeling and it's so surreal the show since the end of season ten fell in love with it just logged like the social experiment of it and like the fact that it's like a petri dish and these people are just like just living and you know who I can do it so it was more like a challenge to myself that I knew I could do but also I wanted the experience of it and meeting New People and just being thrown I was like oh my gosh there's going to be fifteen other people in this house it's not the Nicole show like another meet fifteen people and interact and get to know them and it's most likely not going to be the the first call I was at work looking up the toads native to Long Island because I also for the free schoolers and I got the call out of my comfort zone so you you went for it you made it on your first try second try is talking to try then he'll last year and didn't get a call back and then I I need to get going game was like I need to really figure out these people and had to navigate yeah did you did you connect with anybody immediately who I don't I don't know how I'm GONNA fit in with them and I was like I said intimidated but then I very quickly connected with people like Kennedy and yeah it's weird because you're so intimidate but then you do you get a callback they immediately look wait a minute do I really want this like this is really terrifying I was ready to go I told my family if I apply I'm getting cast and if I'm getting part of the initial question did you have you gone back and watched any of the season yet no I've only seen the finale okay well you were a big cast on winning everything I do with one hundred percents if I'm doing it it's all the way to the end so ionica intention of getting cast nice so you enter the game you vibe with who did you may not vibe with I know like right away walking in very well with lovie me and him or laughing people that I know they're gained from previous seasons is going to be new people and I don't know if they're lying so it's this feel like you're so ready and you have so much adrenaline and then you realize like Oh crap like I need to is this big like it's it's so weird were you worried at all I I feel like I've known some people that apply and but then like when the so with camp director obviously the four of them stood up and I was like okay I need to assess like their character and how I think they're going to how urge walking is the House I've got this I've watched the show for so many years I know how the social dynamics work I know me I know I need to do and then right before moving in Warsaw would I want it in the camp director so Jackson wins he decides to Banish Cliff Cami part of the camp director vote in the in the first couple of episodes where it showed that there were some people that were really going for just I was very similar to almost like similar to me like I felt his passion and his fire to be there and I felt as though he was gonna make a very objective decision which is I would say I view this game like completely objectively always and from that standpoint absolutely at the four of them and I said of the four what then it seemed like the tide turned and part of that was with you decided to flip over to vote for Jackson can you tell me what happened with the camp director night one I really wasn't concerned about other people which comes out really mean but I think it comes out as shit connect with your people so pretty pretty quickly the camp director twist is announced and there were volunteers for it and you're actually I think most people would be pretty pleased so so David is the one that leaves did you did you feel even when you walk into the House you're still like is this really happening you don't you don't feel like you're on your favorite show you don't feel like you're on a television show you're just living in this amazing house and while brother the David and Jess and were you happy with that were you surprised by what was your reaction to that I think have a better shot beating jess or cliff or can me down the line David I view him as a as a big threat and I was like okay the biggest threat in my eyes went home they're gonNa make their decision is it going to be purely game is it going to be emotional is gonna be personally I don't like this person and originally I was like you know what I want to go like any any way he seemed like he was probably the one you'd connected with the least from the four of them that from what you've told me where you kind of happy that that was the outcome H. Weight Room I believe and told us that Christie was the H. and that she had probably nominated cliff and cat and the cat was ally law the ladies they came in and they're beautiful dresses in their makeup their hair Al's like Oh crap I know more of a guy's girl the Guy Craft Academy I connected with Jess but at the same time it's night once your thank Gosh it's like as long as it worked out so it sounds selfish when the other groups walked in saw clear and I'm like that's my kind of person I suggest that's my person I was intimidated by a lot of the people he's going to be my biggest competition I'm not a physical threat I'm not going to be accomplished I can't do these physical type competitions and I said crap of those four people target and that was somehow cliffs second time on the block and realized how does that make sense because he was so so David leaves it's the competition were were you trying to win this one yes of course yeah I wanted to the game saying hey I'm rooting for him right now the three girls I had no idea no offense which one was which which one I'd spoken to getting abused so I don't know where they stand it'd be one and this is so horrible to say but it being night one you just have this mentality like Oh thank God it wasn't me like like I said I cannot do with cliff I can whoa just to run me through the experience walking in the House meeting people what what what was that like what happened Oh man so a person is who's that but it seemed like it seemed like you've made it a decent enough connection with with Christy Oh and I didn't know the names of that point so Christie Eddie Collie and Cisco and Tommy and okay okay I know who Tommy is I remember speaking with him how did you feel about Christie winning this oh I was nervous because I remember I fell and I was thinking who's left and I remember people saying or their camp comeback or Joe schmo ugly who nobody's talking to you that we always be connections to pay my comfort zone but I'm GONNA go approach this woman so so it was it's cliff and cat that ended up on the block with cat as the initial target how did you feel about this unfortunately though the target shifted to Cami you know and I think part of that was was Bella ratting her out to to to some degree in part of it yeah but but the target becomes Cami and and that's not as good for you because you're close with comey so twine at that point my goal going into the game and week by week by week was always make connections with everybody whether they're H. or their nominees even though the targets Cami cl- Samuel has won the veto he's GonNa theoretically used the veto put on the block but but Christie's freaking out because got was an audio leak before the feeds officially came on it was we knew it was no video but it was just audio and it was a conversation between you and Christie Jeff so a lot of us were like this girl's really on edge she's really paranoid okay it makes sense that she's a target worry about her right now yeah was a joke she had made about cooking. It's always I keep asking people why this happened and I feel like I still haven't gotten a concrete answer yes you know like I said I cannot do with her right away when she walked in and then I started kind of walking around and talking to people and something about Mickey tweet Christie was very long time yeah so so Christie wins did you initially it was detective work to try to figure out like somebody clearly is gone like there was a night one of action for sure is it is it can be you really weird it was comey because there's something about like if for some reason that we thought it might be a woman and so it was like either Chemi or whoever this again like I know like I said I connected with cliff by it being week one they're still that mentality of as long as it's not me I don't really who the groups are in the house so in Christie one I was like Oh crap I don't really know where I stand with her I'll have to have a conversation with her actually the very first bit of feeds that we just got h wage and he her out and you know speak my mind yeah Joe Schmo Glee really headed for you all season honors who the sides are who's aligned with whom but as long as I'm not seen as oh we gotta get this girl out week one so I was okay with it I know a lot of us had thought you know who's who in the room with a bunch of other people but she's like breaking down and you had a conversation with her about coming this actually is the turning point where she decides she's not going to back door did to target cat cat is the target and she she went to to Sam to tell him listen to him I don't want you to use his veto I want to go you aware of that at the time yes so I got her in the boat room and she saying you know all everybody wants me up Jack wants me up and I'm thinking no early on the game not thinking of everything I was so focused on protecting Cami that I never voiced a backup plan I should have said Christie don't worry about Cami you should I'm but Sam really wanted to use the already promise cliff that he was going to and so he's like I I really WanNa use it though Clinton Dad I wanna I wanNA take cliff down a guy like chemi she's my ally we don't want her this is no one else so when Chrissy starts crying and seeing how angry she is Jack we're trying to run her game I'm kind a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back this episode is brought to you by Cox with Contour TV from Cox she's becoming very paranoid that people are connecting or too much with Jack that she wants him to be out in front of her not her next right next to him and she doesn't want to but Christie was like it but I don't have to put somebody else in the not send them home and so what about Lovie lovie up and just send him home doing his dirty work by targeting chemistry physics chip on with me and so there's a lot of back and forth about this until it ends up with you I'm Kristie like Oh yeah I hadn't thought of that we can just send him home that's that's works and now that was never even crossed my mind I was so a black widows ally that's another thing that formed here at the end of this week you can be Bella and jess so much and she's like Kevin loves me so it's at into yeah it's in that moment that she decides she's not going to target Cami she's the subject I'm like Yeah Jack is doing to that to you that's no good maybe jack up he should do that too you're an independent woman so you know I kind of like ever throw anything and if it's meant to be it's meant to be so I've gone that log I said a call hold on for dear life if you read the ancient covet but you were not meant to be you start pulling back don't push it get yourself in trouble yes and also lovie was a guy and therefore not a potential movies contour has all the latest titles on demand Oh my grandkids love that big green guy I prefer the one with the hammer myself ear to be fair at the time if you would name somebody else you probably would've just gotten yourself in trouble this is true this is valid now we're going to take it okay I think we're done here now get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contoured TV from Cox and we're back so let's get back the black widows the Lions yes long-lasting what were your thoughts this moment oh man okay so d- uncanny toby the were there at one point you said she loves you she loves leaves all I was thinking Oh dear Lord Women's Alliance is don't work out and like I said I'm a guys gal very level headed I'm calm so I'm like no to the show so lovie ends up on the block you did try to pitch that that maybe lovie would be good to keep four it was actually a joke and funny can walk around and say are you about our business conspiring against me and I I hope I speak for most of us when I say we didn't view it as a joke at first him and again it's early on in the game and my method was always just navigate you know test the waters see what people say people like Nicole good idea and push the subject they you can find all your favorites all in one place it does it have the youtube you bet a what about that Netflix thing Netflix too and although superhero like a wish probably shouldn't tell holly and cat about it they probably wouldn't be on board we can't tell Kristie because she'll tell holly but then very quickly the next day just was did you know and I did mention Jack but I should've tried somebody that she wasn't as close to and I was shocked as hell when it was over Ono I saved one of them and now the other one's going up I want the I think you you went to Nick you tried to pitch to him a little bit. You went to Jess Jess Jess was not on board no I'm trying to remember because Jessen Cara we can make this work this is GonNa happen this is going to be the season where it happens and it didn't happen because within a few hours I had just approached me very very close yes I remember and a lot of people didn't know where OBI stood an obese very smart and who's working and he's going to be a competitor down a line and we can't trust having a seminar on women power to holly in cat who immediately went no way we need to get these women out yeah so I I don't know I don't know what was happening we created this girl's Alliance centers into Oh yes all girls no no no no need to include everybody let's keep it small and secret he's the one first day of the feeds was cliff doing some cliff notes which he did often and he mentioned that he had an alliance with you that was formed very early on any big lines is apart from perhaps black widows but that is and pretty soon but you also one of the first things we saw on the it's object when she's like I don't exactly then don't you do you WanNa do you live your life you play your game and I was so happy that I was getting through to her and that she three of them lights which was good protocol but they all hate each other which was bad you know you guys talked eventually lovie is going to be evicted this week overall though you did you did form a lot of pretty decent individual connections even though you weren't included in on Jack and Mickey or Jack and Sarah's or Mickey and holly or maybe even holly and says like I knew that they were Duos I knew they were strong do owed duos the emphasis on the secret but yeah and then Bella went and blew it up and I just I just got on my bike and pedals that's what I did again myself as a competitor I'm not speak this threat so I was like Oh this Mickey Jack Dynamic is not a good one while Jack is and David is coming back in what were your what was your reaction to the camp comeback twist it's funny because it being so early on in the game there's no we hope that it would pan out yes see I never you bring this up because with cliff it was just like it was never a question it was never thought it was like I got you me till the end let's do this it was just so natural so where were you targeting anybody at this point like we're trying to already because it really discourages the majority from turning on each other because you're not actually going to get that person out and they can win rat you out in camp comeback and exactly trustworthy man one of the most difficult conversations was knowing that you know is not going to keep lovie and Tommy Pretty immediately after Jack Wins H H he wanted to put up a knick he wanted to back door nick that was his goal but Jackson was like influence a lot of people to go after the smaller fish they didn't have to worry about coming back and we'll talk about it when we get to next week but oh you hopefully get anybody out I mean for me personally if I had one like h h or if someone said Hey Nicole you tell me what to do I'll do it my focus was on David gets to come back and I get to meet him really talk to him and then wait you know Kim comeback there's two people that I you know I obviously bonded with David Comeback But lovie staying in the game and so now it kind of falls to you to explain to him that maybe some of the people he trusted were not got rid of Mickey I remember talking about Jack's specifically and they even said no no because of Kim comeback he'll find his way back and it's not a good idea so that is a very valid point I think it did at the time we learn to the houses yeah exactly yeah so so you talked you really and say how much he hated comedian Bella I approached me as much she hated Bella and just and I hated Kevi adjusts so I was the only one they were you concerned at all because when when it was announced from for me my my first thought was this terrible for anybody that's not in the win the next Hoa Jr but also Camp Comeback is going to be announced over he's actually not leaving the building offensive like oh come on the Games removing get people out of the house there's this mentality like Oh for me anyway Oh we all love each other all friends gay lovie still in the game I still go to Taunton and then he comes back into the game we got this all three of us almost so it's also around this time that the black widows short short lived is going to be exposed because the holly and Shen and the name just like it just happened and I love them too so much and I was so happy I remember thinking this would be great if mean cliff can both keep safe oh man I think that's a very good point I remember having conversations with Nick and Sam in the boat room and we bring up like Oh what if you got rid of Jack this week or what season coverage and I am extremely excited to be talking to the Americas favorite player of the series wants to keep you on your side yeah did you have you learned since that the Lovie it actually gone to Jack and Jackson told them about his power and then they questioned Bella about it and Bella just immediately almost almost even before being asked is going to say there was a black widows it was me so I was very close with lovie and obviously cam comeback and then we're both close with cliff so everyone we were just sitting in the kid you can't do that camp comeback will stay he'll come back at us out like can't do it and so ultimately it falls on Jessen coming Eh cited it as one of the main reasons he did not go along with what you were saying when he was h h and going after Jack and Jackson was he's worried about Camp Kazeem comes together affectionately known to Christie and the rest of the house for a very long time just zing helping him it's not going to happen we have to break into him so yeah like I had a couple conversations lovie where I'm like they don't have your best interests they didn't keep you obviously it I'm Kristie already sort of known a little bit about told Jackson a little bit about it and then they were worried that jess was trying to form a women's thing or at least or maybe had formed women's thing excellent all set how much they disliked each other hoping the repercussions of it wouldn't hit me I like people were that mad they will go after Bella or just yeah I did learn about that and they of course ran into Tatami and Christie who were real to real power behind the throne time went on something like that I get along with and then Chemi will join us three people so camp come back to was phenomenal because I I want them to come back going to bond with ovarian cliff over the course of this week obviously you're going to spend a lotta time with me as well as she's on the block and will eventually be sent home but this is around the time that the Orca me or me and that's when people ask me about it I would say are you kidding me that was the one that formed it and people who named well I can't remember it was he'd bellow or just but I was we're gonNA keep lovie lovie would come to say I got them to I just need you and cliff and click with talk like we had one conversation storage room like it's not these people are not with him and you know it's not I mean it's not my fault don't by rush I'm not surprised whatsoever I knew it was going to implode on in Ecole Chemi and jess and ought to be honest I wasn't really ever a part of it to be used but I was just doing doing that thing and ending laundry and he was in the Dr My main priority was keeping me off people's radar I remember cool because Bella rats black widows and then the first thing she does is go downstairs and rats herself out to you she says Nicole Nicole I told them about the black widow but I didn't I didn't tell them about it Jordan how much you were trying to actively work against it at this point it's funny to me I don't like they were just so apparent I don't know if they were just stuff and chat about like there's a there's a there's a majority in the house and we need to break it up how are we going to do that you know Jessen Bella are going I started go crap of this big group of Eight which do is like me which duo seems the most constant and the most level headed I remember looking all them and saying that's making holly navigate game and when things started to implode the black widows and bell was telling everybody everything and Nick was upset because I wasn't telling him all these things calls going on right now do you have any thoughts on Bella strategy overall it seemed like a lot of it was too I think we so unfortunately though Cami is going to be on the block and it seems like is going to be in trouble you did plot with her a little bit you did some because you know I told you you were guilty of that at times as well they know that was my thing I told a lot of people a lot of things so my faulty here for that a hung out together and they were always talking and they'd go off in the frigging target room together all the time and it's kind of like we see earliest I see you look I'm not an idiot okay it and then I think about the the consequences are how it could be perceived or how would unfold around this time that it seems like you you start to kind of it was more so the timing of it and the almost like the eroticism of it like she would she wouldn't think about it before she did it she would just do it and birth of the four duos as much as I all I wanted to work with Nick and Sam and intern bell so Bailey because I thought the three of us if not the four of us could attic keeping a secret or if I'm just very perceptive or both but it was very evident to me that there was this big group of most likely eight four pairs and had it right now because justice pissed that Bella ratted them out and how can we get them to continue to be mad at Bella so the bell takes the fall in the alter like a sieve like she just information would come in and it would just go straight straight out and okay I can't take on that beginning with with Hawley Jackson particularly it felt like this was around the time you started to make a connection with holly in particular is that what you remember I remember very far in this game they're constant- there level headed they think things through and I knew of the duo's I was going to gravitate with them yes and back away slowly from the black widows and you're hanging out more with ovarian cliff salt realize not Nagoya situation so I jumped back on my back back pedal to ob you had a lot of conversations with them about a new love to hang out with them like up near the backgammon interrogation scene so you're kind of put in the middle between Nick and Holly and that was so frustrating because as much as I was thinking see this majority breaks up has I think this is part of what a lot of people missed in the early part of the season is how aware you were of so my main thing was you know take the Chisel and just tap it and make these little fissures here and there in here and there and just hope that it would crack also around this time the nick is is sort of being play with you in terms of kind of putting names into your mouth holly and cat she immediately runs it back to the rest of grateful and cliff who had been in a great spot with grateful in terms of they're called grateful and he was told by Bela who of course is telling people things and then and then Jack messed up in front of him in the storage room and said two have him interrogate me I was sitting there like Oh do like we're not doing this right now come on you're smarter than this please don't put me in this situation this meal end now south very quickly they did they did by the end of the week a little bit he was a you know the guys from inception no no new super suspicious now and hell if I did that to somebody so it was very frustrating to sit in the boat room with somebody who I did connect with on a personal level and wanted to work within the game because I saw a lot of similarities between myself and Nick and insist but I don't want people knowing that why would I walk around saying I'm not H H I am not a copy but hey big thrusts I'm coming after you I wouldn't do that so this time that cliff notes are going to be exposed in the first of many eavesdropping scenario because Sam makes a last minute play to try and save Cammie Sam wants to keep Cami around he has been informed at this point that there is an eight this Nicole we need to work with her a little more straight he's ill all of them talked about how much they loved you at this point wow how smooth he was in the conversation with you how like he totally got you to say names without ever seeming suspicious Hughes planting ideas in your head down a spot on their target list and they started to approach you even more and that's hollies talking more nick is talking to you jack started approaching you a little bit more like men it's not slim Nicole you're making me feel very interrogated right now it's really don't appreciate it well done going I'm not stupid I know we have the numbers it's just not what the house swans and at that point little oh McCall can't go against the house yeah I mean it you damage control and force me to use your name to these people that you're talking about yeah nick was really funny about it too he he like he was really proud of I'm trying to it's best for grateful she's a pretty good moment so so he's like well we need to keep people like having them like I have a good relationship let's keep coming and for my personal game I felt as though Chemi was less emotional and was less like had specific targets and her generalization was not mailed targets it can do that too I can say to you right now you're gonNA put up making it holly and if you just go no I I knew anybody we're going to do it I'm not sure how true that is but Sam is also going to tell you about an eight and he the bus manure I'm saying going this girl is bongos there's no way she told enough his alliance to protect me what yeah that makes sense because now they actually have a name your cold grateful and they messed up in the room and said eight damage control and said with you Sam where undenied Nick were we'll keep cliff for last is now at the top of the target list and actually in some ways this helped you out because you kind of moved okay if I went h wage it'll be Jack Mickey early Jack insists or we holly says or Bahali Mickey and like I said I was gravitating more toward Holly McPeak I would've probably nominated is this season at Christie's over here cliff talk about the fellowship of zing which she thinks is just called zing and as well as you might have had the numbers cat unfortunately it was not on board at that point and Holly insists we're also saying told you about the Jack Messing up in front of yes I remember Sam sitting down and saying you know there's a big group in the house yeah the eight of them are working together plow through the game and at this point they were so after the potential vote Flip Christie had noticed that you fantasies but there were some people that were considering it and although nick will later say that he was faking his consideration that he was never never I always say this isn't a Dr the thing that pisses me off the most was and this offense they all know I love them but in the game we're kind of running around like like with this vote flip and that's when she was like Nicole's being a little suspicious yeah so so Cami is going to be evicted but before she goes she makes a big speech again a and I thought we were all on board I'm like this is Great no-fence we'll get out jess and then nick Sunday like Oh yeah this doesn't make sense we can't do it in all the numbers and I'm sitting there in the back of my head around he talks to you he asked you get cliff on board and you did but this is an you you and Clinton over excited away this causes the plan to backfire a little bit because he's feeling very insecure about his position and in response Kinda runs back to grateful and yes no fence for chemists being addicted so she's already GonNa have the blood on her hands if she's walking out the door it won't affect me but I'm like go ahead say these things his off Mickan Bella List Bella and nick and of course she's not actually going to leave yes you were a part of that so like I don't think like my classmates know that is laying in my bed and Sam it was like Oh the two who's the better option too key gesture Cami House like Chemi and that's nothing against Jesper at that point in the game I was closer to Cami to the show but also with the Cami vote there was a rogue vote cast all my gosh that moment when Julie says by a vote of the student this is great this this would be great but then nick comes to you and says tonight happening of course see I remember so well plan the fact that he sees there a lot of couples in the house and he sees Christy and Tommy as a couple which I'm sure freaked out a bit at the time and uncanny got into a confrontation and then then unfortunately nick is going to be the one that wins and to hopefully make nick and Bella look even scarier to the rest of the big group and they did it did certainly piss nick and Bella off they got into Bella it'll be pinned on but I'm aware of the dynamics of the house and I'm like this is GonNa be pinned on me rate this is great so good that was the plan from Jackson wage and of course the game rightfully so all these people go oh we're still a we love you so much crap so you talk with cliff about this information about there being an eight person alliance that you need to hopefully keep now we are going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back Korea mean Kenny and we you know me and Santa agreed on it and cliff was on board and say this is great and it was so frustrating for me because obviously I want to stay you and in most of Jackson's on lions where like there's probably taxes yeah because he did sketchy things any of the others were being sketchy in that way it was a problem I long the call was allowed to play her game how dare she and that was so frustrating like I really like this girl this is cool you're talking to the cameras like oh I wish I had seen this eight sooner like I hope I haven't they they were allowed to play their game they were allowed to talk to anybody strategize with anybody make alliances make deals they can slip onto they wanted to but it's a hard it's a horrifying feeling yeah and you talked about like hopefully I can position myself to start like stabbing people in the back later because I don't know but but this is what I'm saying I'm GonNa say there are two headed snake I'm going to say that you know that nobody likes older after each other and I'm sitting there going that was my plan like just position yourself right in the middle where they would all just shooting each other all season and skied on through that was the plan and he said it basically in the this is trying to blame it on someone like Nicole and pretty quickly people believed that it wasn't and get the other six you're like wait what's going on and on like this will work out great and then nobody will think to call was a part of it and they'll just attack each other and that was the goal was are still very hesitant to really betray them in any way because cam comeback another part of what happened with the Chemi- are sorry go ahead and that's what St- oh come on if I'm not in alliance other people are probably struggling as well and they're also closed and they seem like they're together in a group but I'm okay I'm okay you know pulling them apart you also had a great talk to the cameras I think this is one of the like right around this time that I remember being you're a group of eight pairs so if one pair were to say hey we've got Nicole is like our number three that would be tremendous so holly brings up like yeah you know because all six of these people wanted to go after nick bell romantic in Bella Nick Bell Arch you at stake let's go after them and of course serendipitous Nick Windy that insecurity and opened up about it that hopefully someone like holly would you know take me under her wing and be like Oh man I feel bad for this girl she is only out but she could be a number like yeah over to a little bit of trouble hawks I told the truth I told the truth to too many people in the hopes that one of them will take a strike at each other and not realizing you idiot they're gonNA compare notes into one I legitimate heads talked every it's me I even think it's me like I know exactly that unlike the Great Nicole that would be pinned was trying on a life raft to find an island to you know to land on so that was that was true that was valid but I knew if I came to people oh so pretty soon after that you have a conversation with holly and it was really this like this one two conversations once you punch like I really enjoyed this conversation you had with holly happening can you run me through what happened right before the nomination ceremony so like I said so I know there's this group and ruined myself I watched the show and I'm always like oh you guys why can't you see it's right in front of you but I got I got wrapped up in it too and now I've you know coming up in the middle of Nick and holly that's what's so crazy like you're in your head like okay I mean with exception black widows on my I'm not really in a big alliance I have spoken to Christy and Tommy at one point I've spoken to Jack and sits out by the pool table at one point I've spoken to Holly and Mickey especially Holly and like I said I'm not lying and then when it's solidified you you just had this realization like oh my obvious it's obvious I was obviously solidified an idiot on the outs good luck with my gut instinct I'm like something's not right so I go upstairs and I go this is it I'm taking my way again and I'm hitching it to the main this is what has to happen right now in this and that and I'm like yeah he's so bad he's a liar he's a state you know what he said about you and this is where to call gutter annable or whatever the Hell Sam's Nicole I'm like the honorary number nine this is not good so obviously solidified for me that there is this humongous group of aid that thanks they're in power there the couple that I'm picking and stupidly of May instead of nick was out in the hallway talking to jess who I found out she was trying to pitch the time the nominations came you would also been talking to nick and Bella and this is when the the big the big moment is going to happen can you Zeh I'll be honest about it I want to work with Nick and Sam an intern Bella so I'm senior going Oh my gosh oh my gosh what's going to happen or about to happen something's gotTa Give Co H. O. H. Fella and that's where I got in trouble because Bella is so emotional and reactionary on I went in there I just don't feel right something's give me a weird vibe trust you guys but I don't know I feel odd and Bells Gear Jack and Mickey were just up here saying that Nixon put you up and do it and I'm like I knew it I knew they were going to do that Europe I love that girl but but right after the nomination ceremony feeds comeback Tommy is questioned Bella because he's like what's going on everything there and so of course this this is going to escalate into on undeniable the the big the big thing have you buddy and at that moment it's time to go make moms and nick leaves the room and I am just praying that it doesn't take their advice and put me up but that hopefully he takes me through because this like a decent amount of this didn't happen on the feeds because the feeds it already for the nominations so when these came back it was like what we'll see yeah I mean you you were you were in between holly and Nick and you I went to holly you've got some information from her you also told her some things but then by were you approached her and you talk to her about like feeling on the outs and feeling like awkward when you felt good about Holly Jackson and you feel like you've opened up to other next to each other this is insane and Bella of course rightfully so reacts Nick Walks in the room fellow goes Nicole tell them what you just told me I turned to nick and I say I I need to have talked to them at least I like like I just can't do it so he goes through with what he had planned to do which was cliff and and Jess I believe at the time so me and Bella have like this like opening up everything so Bella tells me Jack and making you're coming after me and they want to put me up I tell Bella that I don't have the secret take my advice he'll be smart he'll put up these huge threats let's see what happens and born happen well like I said he he claims he claimed in the diary room for me to go up but instead of pulling nick to the side who was the H. wage and I connected with more so and saying nick a town conversation I instead Saito he's busy I'll just talk to the claimed afterward that he came really close to going through with that I asked him in the back yard he said Cam comeback was pretty much the main reason why he said I need I can't take that listen you're not with these people their plan was to win h put up you and Bella and get you out nick I'm sorry it was that was the plan he's Co Jackie Mickey especially but it's every jacker talking and Jacko's Nicole I think it's important that you really enjoy the time you have left in this house and I remember being like what the hell and around this time and the joke that the undeniable blob was more disturbing thing that I'd watched it something's gotta break in his eight and I say to myself be Jack and Mickey Walk by and accumulates weird look and they go onto the target room and people are acting I'm a very good read of the room very so I get up to leave the room and that's when I think was cliff or somebody that came downstairs and said Oh my God they are fighting upstairs it's happening and it was just it was very like very group thing very like mob mentality like they just really riled themselves up and I'm sure you you heard some of it from from downstairs in terms of like the yelling but but it really just it escalated because you were the scapegoat and it was a complicated situation because people on a personal level and now you feel like you regret it because they're using you holly was like Yeah Nick that Guy Yeah so art of it was yes I was very insecure Bella like she's she's like what's going on Tommy and Tommy is going to drag it out of Bella that you told her all of these things about Jack and Jackson you were trying to break them up we were using truths so it was like it was like a not one thing or the other it was a little and he wasn't going to put you up he had said like I I love that little not pretty nations ceremony when Nick didn't put me up I'm like okay okay I figured he wouldn't let you know Jackie Mickey we're talking to him I'm probably replacement at Phnom and regardless I still thought sketchy things watching this back no I have not I ve been told it's very bad but I'm any of it I know I know you're a horror movie fan is that were said but I knew the the air when they came out of the room and Jack singing another one bites the dust which would come back to bite him weeks later when we got him out just putting it out there and I was like this is great this is good is exactly what I wanted to happen and being big brother you enter ruin people fight you WanNa know what it's about so I time of day and by Nicole they were they were protecting you for your benefit that they were keeping you out I know the eight of them such tremendous people at I for happening and the weirdest moment for me was right after NAM's I was in the boat room actually with Jack this before the big flaw right before it and me mixture of both but they were trying to be like oh she's trying to break us up and she's lying about all this stuff and so yeah go ahead a little bit shift from screaming to more a mob mentality laughing and you could hear them like high fiving and just pumping yeah yeah and I turned she she's a Vanessa Rousso she's she's a Dan Gay Slang she's she's a mastermind flash she's in put them up and if he doesn't how is this GonNa play out is he going to tell them hey Nicole told me one me up so at that moment nichols often magnums and I'm going okay he and him in nick jumping in the air like chest bumping installed and I remember thinking wow they're not gonna let me say my piece ah confrontations that are mediated by Tommy I'm sorry we are grown s adults and we sat was upset and I found out later that they were planning on freaking out on me in the kitchen and ate again one come on now the they were they were because I would've buried them I'm from New York best believe I would have said my piece yes I would have gotten emotional but I would have said my piece and I was like wow there's eight of them I'm outnumbered they're not going to give me stacked them for what they did that day because they are such great people while they are grateful they are all by the grace of God I was called into the Dr because got up he's like what's your problem and I was like no I'm like what the hell is that like a kiss of death why would you soon so I got up and I'm thinking I am the replacement this is going to happen they just like they kept piling in piling and and then of course you find out that it's about you and then it gets into the sort of Oh to walk up there and I get turned away I was very very very very angry and I remember walking in to like Insta- living by class as like a call you did it you did how's everybody thinks I have my fellow I can't leave Jack and Mickey or tell you to put me they want to put you that was the whole plan this week to for them to an age and put up are you talked about how you were both outsiders and the outsiders needed to band together and I think it was maybe that comment infuriating thing in this world is when I come out of the D. R. finally hear them having their stupid gratitude circle and they're being loud and obnoxious and Kohl's not there who gives radicals out there we don't like her anymore okay whatever enjoy so I come out and they're all acting funny in the kitchen and I remember turning to tell me and I said to myself he's from New York he's gay me he was like yeah it felt like we had discovered the enemy that was that was you know splitting us apart and they were they were like talk to them if we WANNA talk as a group ahead you WanNa talk to one that's fine but this whole mediator crap I don't know who started who thought it was a thing to like will not offend midsummer was a great horror movie that came out over the summer you see it I saw he knows what it's like to be bullied that's an assumption that I made and Mckay can we talk and he was not now Nicole I don't WanNa talk to you and I'm like crap even he doesn't want to we do we said we're going to do we're going to break them up so hear them fighting and I'm like this is great it's happening all about each other and one of the scariest moments on my life is hearing them I'm let's go and she sits down and I'm willing to like in my brain and I said this a conversation between to educate adult is you hear each other out whether you we like they're really rounding themselves up because truths were being exposed on both sides and and I think in the moment I talked to there's really just at first belly yelling at you and not allowing you to respond that was a conversation according to Bella she was definitely very upset about that because I'm not an outsider she's she for the for the rest of the next couple of weeks he's going to be like how dare she called me clip and I went oh no this is going so it's about me it's it's happening it's going south very quickly and it was very I didn't hear any of the specific things join outside no like I'm telling you the you're outside this group just like I am you know but yeah so so Tommy meads some some confrontations claims and you give counterclaims that's what we learned in school and sitting there like okay I'll let you say your piece even if it is lies on even if it's not the truth even if she thinks it's the let me not educated that's not what I meant like Oh my Gosh I just matt like you hear each other out and you wait and you listen and respond I went up to her because I'm a grown ass woman and I said Hey let's hash it out and she said not now Nicole I'm not talking to you and then she appears RV. I'm ready to talk to you on my okay I mean I I connected with him like early on the game so my crap so yes what really pissed me off was moving forward from that I'm an adult and these people are adults I would I just think it was the stupidest thing ever in very disrespectful you also had a conversation with Kat briefly after the big thing where and really just got into things that you later found out in terms of like thinking that you would lie about your anxiety and about your your grandmother and like all of these things you said it was not going to you because you're not the main concern only Bella why Unicol additive to protect you this way insider yeah oops I mean she was alert I never said eighty people out of like hey I'm GonNa hurt your feelings I have no idea to which I look at Tommy and he does nothing yeah Bella leaves and she goes to other people and it's not I'll let her say her piece and I said okay Okay can I say what I'm GONNA say now no I'm done whatever you're making upset leaving how is that a conversation this is the problem I just couldn't take it anymore and maybe I always say maybe a couple years ago Nicole I would've started it because your version of snapping on somebody like typically and big brother when it's like oh here we go it's unleashed its like screaming matches with the back and forth you eventually come back into this Tommy Chrissy agree at this point like so mad yes and and really that it was that moment that really solidified it I think for the rest of the six shooters at this point screaming but it's just not worth it in life when you scream you just you get nowhere you have to say your piece as a civilized adult and all I just but when they break up whereas in Kogo land so it was kind of sixty forty but when I spoke to people I emphasized the on an island and I need somebody to land with that that you were telling the truth and not only that but they also believed that you didn't do this intentionally but it was it was just you looking for a place till end you're just accent well just for the record I'm say all these things because this is in the context of the game but now out of it like I love the wall so much that's why can laugh about it like with Tommy with Bela yes good good good to note is so this continues so so then you around to belly you try to apologize to her she says she doesn't accept it she says she's very disappointed. Sure it's Nicole calls right she was right about what she was about us I mean she's saying about them hugh why do you sound so defensive but and then you've you've finally you finally snap on her and this was like the Best I love this so much no I talk with both of them I think Tommy was lying at that point I think at that point I know Bellas the Baddie here is in like you're just so calm and respectful but it was clear that this was your breaking point and use what bell it's you I tell them like I wanted you broken up so I had to emphasize the one side of it and so weirdly after a couple of days of intense scrutiny I hate her I to be completely honest though in that situation I had that moment where I was like it's my insecurities you come away completely clean and with your goal accomplished in that they are now fully against each other whatever but I was like is it me like did did I do something wrong like did I do something horrible new vents I'm like Oh my God Nicole you're in this house with only so many people and more only happened to expose things that may be split them apart once thing it was kind of like sixty forty like I did obviously WanNa land somewhere and I'm like I want them broken up because it's a game ever being like it's going to happen all gosh have and I just let it I was like it is you I'm sorry everybody is fucking house knows it it's you um so all man I forgot to Bella was like Oh man I can't wait for America to survey the coal inside in the works and nobody blames you anymore yes but I didn't know this you know you didn't I kind of wish I was told by these commended wonderful great people who believe me they were GonNa save me and I get it they wanted to be a blindside they want me to be excited and stay they wanted to be will you also had the confrontation with nick his main point of contention here was the anxiety thing you were using your anxiety how do you feel about that confrontation it's funny because in the moment the romantic you got to really run through everything did I do something wrong is I had a very weak very so I'm like are you frigging kidding me don't ever question my anxiety I know what I've struggled with I know people in my family and my life struggled with don't ever question that again don't question I want me to act as though I knew I was staying or act comfortable but that was pretty Shitty I was crying myself to sleep all week I would have liked to everything in the game is a game piece yes to some people things are untouchable to me I would never lie about my grandmother passed away I would never lie about my if you're angry you're pissed and you you know yourself you know your truth you know your lies and you're in this environment that's life so when he questions my anxiety I know me other having cancer I would never lie to me like in the context of the game it's it's a game so everything is a game piece and some people faking anxiety could be strategy a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back to the show cliff is going a preschool aid don't you dare talk about my students because I know my truth but even like moments after I'm thinking about it and thinking it's a game leave blindsiding you you are now one of a very very short list of people to survive the death could be strategy people in the past have lied about their wives being sick or about Yup people have done it so I don't blame him for questioning it because he doesn't know me he he winks at me and I'm like what the hell is happening either these people are completely evil and they're just messing with me or something's about to happen yes comeback kid this is the first time we see his celebration dance this you see that yes of course does it know if I'm lying he doesn't know Nicole outside of the game so I could very well be like hey this guy has anxiety let me lie and pretend not have it too so hindsight twenty twenty he had a right to question it and of a back door you're blindsided by but hey get it yes vote and you would assume that the votes would still be there to get jack out and I think you perhaps did assume that because you went to Christie I know Bella is what she is but are we really going after her right now so this started me questioning the votes and so you talked Chris Ah I blacked out when they read that because I was dumbfounded and then cliff is going to be evicted but very quickly comes right back in Jack and Jackson looks like things are finally turning around everything's GonNa be okay you're probably going to be able to get jack out but of course they are like hey we we believe too long we were just we were working for you the whole time and the whole thing is I'm listening to this like did you believe me all along she reveals this power and I'm like no no no we're not using it this week we're not using his live this week because you know it turns out Nicole having difficulty week to week with the which way to navigate with vote because like I said I wanted to always be in the middle of groups I wanted to navigate them but in the meantime you've been told by Tommy and Christie that Christie has this power styling power veto and is GonNa win that veto and that means that Christie can use her power and if she does use her power that means that it's GonNa come down to in Tommy and cliff ingestion cat but in reality this conversation turns out to to really think you about it and she she's like Oh don't worry about this is when she starts talking about like my Dream Team is me and you and because he's fantabulous Oh and then on top of that he wins the H. 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There you go and so his plan he's going to nominate air but I love all four of them so unlike which everyone comes back is going to be my ally especially you know Kemi or obviously cliff so cliff comes back immediately I don't WanNa hurt by that at all but in the moment when you know your own truth it is it it it's you revved up get's you upset because you're like are you fucking kidding me why would I lie about this now we are going to and told her that you were kind of a rough spot and that you weren't sure where your vote was going to go yes so this started or I guess contain but really started with the sixers as Christie's GONNA run back to them and be like Nicole's jumping ship already oh my God it's always what was your reaction I was like Oh okay got some moves are I so come back and I don't know aw I don't really believe that was you're keeping me to keep me or was it just piss off nick umbrella and obviously it was epiphanic and Bella but I stayed so I was happy but and what was so frustrating about Christie with this was not always but around that time she would always say my Dream Team my Dream Team me Tommy you Komo numbers Gal I'm a fan I'm a game Gal why would I be number seven on a totem pole if I could still be with Nick Bella and San we're sitting there and Tommy Leans over and like puts his hand on cliffs knee music no matter what I love you and I'm like why cliff just but it never came to fruition it was always like yeah we'll we'll make that Dream Team one day dreams like never what I think she's GonNa use it anyway I think I think I need to take as much from the situation as I can and he offers for the deal that I will do it for you you don't have to use the power gosh she's bought and paid for as Jack would say but but now they're like oh she's not she's willing to turn on us if if the opportunity presents itself home as long as she uses it and so this is one she goes to cliff because she's kind of back and forth about whether she even should use it 'cause Jack because cats in particular but also just were not willing to vote Jack out at this point and that means that with Christie's power Bella will be going about this so me and cliff always said to each other that we respect each other way too much on a personal level to not allow each other to make gay moves all seven and get rid of her so my thought process was always break up the biggest number in and unfortunately the votes weren't there actually anyway yeah so it in my brain it was a little bit conflicting because it's like these six people digits save me when Nick put me up and Bella wanted me out and I get that so this was one of those weeks where my crap do I vote out Jack and a p certain people join without Bella and appease the other people Jackson bigger threat here well there was there was a brief like half a day period where we thought that was what cliff was doing but I want some safety out of it and so on and so forth and he also he then goes to you and explains the deal too you can you can you tell me what you think they want to use it to fill up their fellas not the fish we defy right now we get out jacker make but unfortunately Jackson but I'm a game standpoint and the coal standpoint unlike why why are you essentially allowing the power to be used but then also allowing the power still exists and we were like so excited oh he's going to do it I got I got out I know it's I know Orwell is a bird so that's eh people like Kevin just wouldn't flip and keep keep Bella anyway she talks to cliff and this is Wendy idea comes for cliff to be like maybe a touchy subject but how did you feel about oral being in there so it's I love stuff down we always said to each other like you know if that's your game do it I respect you so on one level I'm like you know good for you if you're keeping yourself safe you made a deal terrific the most but I hate birds but my love of animals trumps my hatred of birds and then all bonded especially when I was stuck in the house okay so never made any sense yeah so you kind of got in a Lotta trouble here because they had been feeling like very out we just saved her she's it was really like you have to use it and she was like hey don't push me and so I wish she wanted from cliff was a little bit reassurance that he would support the move basically leading Chrissy Hafer cake and eat it too and I like that because I didn't know it was coming down the pike following week and it's like she's getting her way this week and if she does her own thing and revealed he's planning on staying true to this deal you know it was a very controversial decision outside of the House and by controversial I mean most people hated it and I was kind of thoughts on catechists plan I mean cliff had spoken a lot and we knew that we needed people on our side we knew we needed Jessen cat with us we knew the former cliff hates the name he does not want this to be the name he accepts it I wanted the name Hog and the three little piggies that would sweet now the power gets double usage so yeah it was great for cliff but I'm thinking just get rid of it just flush it out or to use it or what Nicole would have done is teller yeah you you're alone Sheila bopper power and then best believe I want to ask like that cliff and cat really are going to start to part of what cliff had gleaned from his conversation with Christie was that there was a big rift forming that'd be great together but no offense to leave the room me and cliff like they're both a little bit more wishy washy they're both more emotional and more the votes to take out Jack Anyway the problem is cat and why is it not not with you on this one did you have do what we I don't understand how many of those people were able to motor plan that it it alluded me at the time it's still eludes me that was one of those typical things I've ever done the rift between Christie and Jackson and so Bella is going to be evicted here and we head into the next week where we get the poison Ivy Nicole unlike the three Amigos I wouldn't want that because then you you're the focal point you're the leader you know so at this point sp orange yes we can be a part of this big group so this is also around the time that cliffs angels is going to come together showman's you know you know so so in this ultimately when tale that works for you go right ahead me personally I would have said Yep use your power I'll put a Bella I wouldn't have put a fellow that would have been fun that's what we between Christie and Jackson in many ways he takes up your role of trying to split up grateful only with sixers and Christie and very disappointed that that was not the outcome if only you had one that one if all had won a Lotta things we'll say that a lot obsessively she she's actually going to rat out cliffs angels to Holly John It's still it's still puts cliff right at the forefront there I know he hated it so much all in his defense I wouldn't want it to be named four like I look at it numbers wise this group is six they're not none of her saying yes let's take the call the final say the final three they're all thinking Allie user and you know whether or not Jackson Holly we're actually considering that you're kind of the fall person for a lot of that stuff as well so that was the weirdest situation because which you know given their outside connection makes more sense but also like really pinpoints you and says Nicole is not to be trusted warranting to be with the big group like yeah obviously everybody wants to be with the big group mean clipper more realistic in the sense it's not GonNa Happen Cat and gesture more so like damn to get you on the block because that would save Sam from fiction if you if you went up and out holly really wanted to do this she was like it doesn't have y'all's backs and really tries to get you up and out this week and again I'm not entirely sure where it came from apart from the outside comment but but that seems to be her goal on there was also a bit of the potential flip in the works with the Bella vote and ultimately Christy and Tommy were really at the forefront of like no she puts up Nicole that means she's not taking out Sam which means he's keeping Sam to go after us and that's not maybe a better option she she wanted to go with Kim Sam at the at the time though cat was also pushing for you to go on the block assistant what is it he oh there's a whole number of things you know so cliff puts Bella but still I mean you should holly is going to win it yes and Jackson is you know she wants to get out of the game and so she kind of wants to put up nick and the results of those conversations and she really wanted to you of so so we see that it was a very weird scenario that luckily I was able to hash out with holly and say like listen we both know what's going on in the middle hoping that it would have been making Sam block but nick is going to win the veto Sam's GonNa be working on holly a lot that week and there's also this tension between Jackson Holly Christie in particular it's really starting to boil and there's actually a big push by by SIS and by up on the block which another decision that I'm a little confused about but you know ever roll no well trying to be like you guys we kind of need each other and so he starts talking to you about how he wants to go after Jack and he also lets you know that this is that good and so they really step in and made sure that sort of the kind of in so many words kind of made it clear to holly like the you did not do super well here now one of my finer moments I still feelings like gut instinct and that week when holly wanted on my something's not right I'm telling you an is this weird feeling and when did you like the Replacement Nam the code word and she she told me that making Hollywood onboard she told me that I was on board but we both were unsure he really want to put up Nicole and sent her home she she did not she she she talked to you a couple of times that week and she was not please nick is going to start to work on his relationship with you a lot this week in particular and I think this stemmed from a conversation he had with cliff if you do this you're going against the group so holly eventually decides to go with the other plan which was that had volunteered as a pawn to Cam Jackson was telling her at the time now if I was h wage I'd put up consent but that's these two for you maybe nick and Nicole for us the next time somebody asked me to volunteer sorry Nicole told me not to I don't know a forty four are you are you sort of caught up on like the like what happened that that day the date leading up to it the day before and yes volunteer help out but invade rather never volunteer volunteer information don't volunteer volunteer shit again like okay now you have this big group of six that are altogether and very very close and then nick and Sam are on the island of Nick and Sam so if me and Clinton one of the few people as I go I feel like it might actually work for I mean down for clips so great for cliff you can't you can't get hurt in this game we're cliff encouraged him to work with you a little more because again the year relationship had kinda soured over the undeniable thing and cliff in particular eh a numbers Gal I would have preferred over Jack obviously it will be small smarter from you stay with a small group that had a big one by it was weird because Bella came up with this and now we know why they suspected it so much because they knew each other and is the desire to flip the vote and flip it on Maki and he wouldn't suspected and we all walked toward the living room and that's when the House decided we're keeping cat and of course me 'cause vote that's only two people nothing to do in holly so it was like right before the eviction that clip an I shook hands in the kitchen and said cliffs angels aside we're voting to keep Sam the islands and mean cliff could very well work with them so me and clipper looking at it as either one's good for us but you can be more emotional hat is very close me Zia coming and to be honest sound so mean but I was a little bit indifferent either way because we have cliffs angels so cats girl but like I said Nick and Sam are on get with them as well we can both our numbers so it was smarter for me like I felt bad that new consumer on the blocks together crap there on the outs now those are the people I need this whole story to Jackson and it fit perfectly with what with cliff in cat had been telling him so Jackson was like that's it it's Christie I'm done with Christy don't want them on the block I want these big fish on the block so yeah we started talking more about getting people like Jack out moving forward yes then leading up to the eviction we have the events of anything so we had to go with the house and yet that was the plan all along yeah well basically cliff in cat had sort of been poking holes in the relation easier to call on the block this okay so that's good to know that if I was replaced but now I would have gone home over Sam Damn between holly and Christie and Jackson Christie for a little while Salmon Meteo a plead to Jackson the night before that completely threw Christie under the bus Chris Christie the big love that not really I know you know that Tommy and Jack and Christie suspected that cat and holly knew each other is kind of coming for you yeah so it was very interesting because like I said obscene Clifford together since the beginning but me and nick very close in the beginning we bond over our anxiety he went to holly and he said we need to keep Sam we need to flip the vote and Holly said I would love to but other thankfully cool so jack went back to Tommy and said they know each other and their hand we can't flip it to keep saying because I can't get rid of cat that point Jackson was like I told you should put up Nicole yeah apparently that's like a recurring theme of Mickey wanting me out but I can't complain and I can't be mean 'cause I said about him throughout the season kind of been working closely with Sam they had a decent relationship cheated expressed to him that she didn't want to use power on Jackson the jacksons she told to him and so he basically told read that Okay Yeah Christie is kind of against us we shouldn't trust Christie Jack went to Tommy about it of course now we know the Tommy was connected to Christie a porn I was like hell no I don't WanNa be sitting up there that week like on a very firm believer she's going to go after Jack in Jackson you're gonNA spend a lot of this week bonding with holly and the rest of cat and just then like I handled that so well I was home church and then Tommy comes out and he's like belly you handle that so jack went to Jackson the following morning saying I think you're being lied to in Jackson said multiple people and I know we can trust cat because her and holly now yes so ultimately Sam is the one that goes and we had into the following week gestures going to win the here we go it's time for things to nose day forty four happens six shooters are dead and now just as one the age to really solidify this it was very shocked was cash never volunteer ever I'm pretty sure that's no qualifications on the community and society you went oh my God we got to flip the vote of course because he would believe that the truth and they oh damn makes sense what was doing John and I don't know and then Chrissy and Jack Walk in and you're like you to follow us going down McColl is being a grasshopper the all business you know I- Walters an RV and I said some sketchy I turned to nick and I said what is going on and so Tommy tried to flip it around on cliff and cat and say that they were essentially the U. of this situation trying to split people apart and so he kind of convinced Jack of that what not and then with the whole blow up went to help but when we want sit bellow is out of the game and like I said I'm a numbers guy and I agree with cliff lift guy hanging the hanging out in the H. from for awhile but you also have this sort of weird situation where you had been bonding with Nick Yes you're obviously in society and whatnot that's the lay in the house never I used to sit there with people like I'll be so now we got to file also so Jackson really trusted Jack at the time and so he went to Jack about this information about Christie and he actually had Jack Swayed and you sort of recognize these probably trying to keep his relationships good on both sides but justin cat are like very much in this guy now now nick is kind of like he's with you guys he's hanging out with you guys but he still has a decent connection with Tommy we still talking with Tommy a little bit eventually completes don't walling he would go up to them and I think you were in the room for one of those conversations at least where he so we're taking ship you my number one boom just like that hey your number one what are you doing why are you telling me things and and that was the thing because he decided conversation that like my people were cliff jess cat his people were Tommy Sis even kind of Christie and cliff and we were like call tell the truth to everybody like I just felt that he should listen also to gain trust listen I covered your s she was gonna put you up as a replacement wouldn't it wouldn't be logical at what point he's at in the game and all my Gosh I can't even begin to articulate how many times that week I had to talk people down because there was a point on an island and I didn't fault him for wanting to build relationships with everybody because that was what I had done weeks prior you know you're trying to navigate and figure out where the hell you went and if you know we talk about like big brother being like chess game and people using people like pieces but it was really to me it was like nick was just like okay regardless of actual relation a nickname really trust in that was the moment that really really solidified your relationship he started calling number one which it is so suddenly after ozzy him and I had a huge Blah Blah and we didn't necessarily trust each other at that point we didn't really try after that point we were allied with the go they'd be like like okay are we why are we not sharing right okay all right this is awkward and Nick actually in people and then it's like you're my number one and I was always like you're too smart tall son made this decision there must be something behind it and that's why I never bought into it the place with you guys and you also let him know that he almost he was almost back doored which really solidified for it I'm like okay I can't work with them and again here goes okay so we're allies we're in it's been diagram we're in the middle with our people on the sides and the only person we agreed on cliffs when the three of us were currently well I mean from my perspective like Nick was genuinely with with you guys at the time and it was just an cats sort of mistrust of him end with everybody so be it and I would say to them like listen Nixon smart guy he's GonNa WanNa Vote Out Jack He's GonNa WanNa vote with us why would he go against it it's all bad after the fact that I didn't because it was true but it's a game you don't know what to trust also from my perspective at least I have no idea who's alternately would have been most loyal to between you Tommy insists he wanted all three of you in the final four but from that point and it was it was kind of a weird it was kind of like I described I described it like like he tom I said no we're not doing that and she didn't do it so therefore don't think I'm sketchy because I saved you and if you do an age and you are going to go after these people go after them I like trying to survive he's working on cliff for Awhile Cliff tells you about Jack's deal three week deal of safety this is this is when you tell cliff when Jeff said that's it I'm back door nick over it and I was like no no calls game Nicole these you guys nick or not touching here right now we are getting rid of Jack a he's the first member of the jury were you concerned about jury management at this point absolutely the type of person I am capture It was Kinda like Ozzy I wanNA keep people safe but if he were to win focus on on them I worked like this for me I have in my notes you know who who knows who knows and that was a very big part of the part of my reason why I told Jess it out the six we'll get to that when we come that was that was what is he okay so frigging jackals cliff and makes his inaccurate oh my gosh deal then he goes to nick and makes us rose page yeah I mean he he definitely I felt to me like he was he was kind of pushed in that direction by by cat and just because was worried about person management and this y like I if I can actually I I wanna get to know everybody whether you're camp comeback or your pre jury or your I was so happy that this reaction times I was working salted I got shit I got nothing in Holly and cats that run this game because it seems like cliffs angels is in a great spot but secretly cat is working with holly and so being that sort of link ah I was very insulted the world also Jack Leaves he was telling them that he didn't WanNa be sitting next to you he was telling us telling them I would happily lose to Tommy I will take you Tommy lose to you but that's just me and I did like I made sure I had conversations with people especially people I didn't necessarily connect with on a personal level a lot like someone like Jack and this is yeah but but pretty quickly I mean Tommy had always been very like like from the second happened and Tommy's very very smart and answers you very politically and very dances around things and I'm like this guy's very smart so when he won like crap is okay so with Jack on his way out it's beginning to look to me at least from this point that that it might actually be meet him like hung out on the Hammock for a few hours talking about life and everything and that was me knowing that he was gonna most likely go home and just wanting to bond with him before he did but also you know people nick allegedly told me convince Tommy like don't go after Nicole go after other people so that worked out why yeah well Tommy Tommy didn't really that mole in between the two is really going to allow cat to probably pull jess and then the four of them can probably stop their way to the end however Tommy is the next day and really screw that up that's what was really interesting because I remember laying in the bed and cat was like I have faith in this cliffs angels we're going to make ah cliff and I talked about this Tatami with Tommy like he was always built like this guy is a threat like I don't know about this guy so cliff was always somebody who's worried about and he very correctly saw the cat was the bridge between the cliffs angels and Holly in Jackson and they have much of an idea go after you at this point and that was maybe a little bit of Nick claiming credit then maybe he tried and felt like he did something a wonderful person love you I respect you you're gonNA do great in this game like you know I wish you all the best and in your life outside escape and I'll I'll be amended deal and then he goes to colts and paint you and I go okay and I'm like I'm ready I'm ready for this deal and he gives me nothing he just call your lovely wait till the end we got this brewery final four and I was like excuse me I was a cat this game it's a pendulum swing the other way you can't get cocky because the carpet gets pulled out from under you really tried to lay on the charm yeah and I'm like like in the cartoons like point by the way is playing I'm like that's it you're cat like listen this is nixed theory it's alleged but it could be you and cliff and the next thing I know Tommy's pull me upstairs like things are looking much different for him but not not the case it's not GonNa happen something that happens very there's no good for me Nicole did a hall you're my number one and then Tommy insists right there and cold did not like that so jack is final days of the season one of my takeaways was that you are truly the queen the Master of damage control that rose as Nicole cat told me that you told her that her in Cleveland going up and I'm like I told you I don't think a big surprise like him and he didn't really talk a lot in the house so when that final came we made the joke that I was like the Angel Death we sat with the people that were going to be evicted but oh I think he completely made the right the right call on the right move here I was a very successful. HR wage that really helped him really just slide all right so cliff in cat go on the block America's field trip happens which you know Kristie goes on the block but ultimately she gets pulled down so it doesn't really go anywhere I'm like we'll see we'll see and the next week she went and I was like damn I kinda like those kind of like an omen what I said to her like it was weird because Tommy into and what to say to them that will make them be like all that Oh that makes complete sense I get it and I had sleep is that nick let you know as soon as she was like I think cliff and cat are GonNa be going on the block you went to cliff in cat and told them I things and I'm like you know I'm a straight shooter and I respect people more people just tell me if someone wants me going up I think you like I remember telling you're my number on exactly the you're my number one wide you tell cat and I'm like I didn't necessarily tell her I just thought we were voices adds up emotional and blindsided and you go and tell the forget wage like what the hell is this the nick goes and Chasta's how are you telling cat around as all of his allies got picked off to the end and really you know even just one or two competitions go him or his allies sharing our ideas I didn't know cat was gonNA run with it when I when I did when I did the recap of your game in the Hoa and I was kind of like where do I fall on this because this is no offense I always questioned Christie Tommy Remember Kristie was like my Dream Team my Dream Team but it never had oh unlike Nicole this is also very smart for your game because when he goes jury I rather him remember this moment then didn't talk to Nicole much you want to leave on a good good chance I could see the block because of I had one is a good chance he would have seen the block you know so luckily again me nick being close and being than diagram with our side on the block and the cat immediately rats you yes because I like I have a problem and I think a lot of time I tell people the you really throughout the season did so much damage control and you were successful every single time because it is the art of the back would see it was like who do you want to end on a field trip it's you know somebody will win safety and somebody will go on the block and so it was like hopeful adult you know it's like an excuse but it's not an excuse Kinda like downplay what you have to stroke the person's ego and you'd have to either know who you're talking I think we're in the Hammock I'm sitting there are you kidding me I already get like a hey I got your back I really a half ass like I got you girl were you were you thinking that like Oh that means they're disliked at the time it's funny I I remember thinking like this is weird like who is it going to be and Jack is in the jury right now so he can't be up there and Tommy's h he can't be up there and I'm thinking is it just not dislike or like but I'm like I wonder if who the H. O. H. was who the WHO I think even before like who who'd be so it was like people always like Jack Jackson and it was kind of confusing the way it was worded like I was concerned a lot of people were concerned that the people are just watching the TV show Tatami Tommy's idea was I want to strike at Jackson and take away his numbers without actually having to take the shot at him myself station with Jackson Holly where he said to Jackson Hey I know that things are going poorly I know that you're not a fan of Christie but I still love you league people don't misinterpret this and send people like Nicole and cliff into the field 'cause every terrible on top of that we were voting before we knew work with you and you know we may be going after each other's friends but like let's keep each other off the block like let's let's make sure that we're not collateral and so by cutting him by taking out cat he's cutting Jackson off from the rest of cliffs angels and and he can continue to work with Jackson was in comics h but it wasn't people like cliff and I feel like cliff was fan favorite so my okay and I'm thinking you know what there was that humongous fight image in this war essentially and really that worked with Jackson Yeah that makes a lot of sense to me because I will graduate he want America's field trip but time nick starts pitching the idea of a six that he wants to bring together the diagram a bring everyone together Christie Sis Tommy and I knew my people I if I had one H H I would not have put up cliff I would not have put up nick I would not have the jess everybody else they were free game so can be some people that are like oh Nicole I cur voter and and you were kind of high on some of the polls like fifth-place my sisters had told me that my sisters were like something there something there was a little bit and and it it stemmed from the end of the previous week during Jesse's atrial each week America is thinking these people were part of a fight how can we continue to boil that pot ally no put all three of them together you know that's the way I saw yeah working I kind of did in some ways if Jackson and Nali hadn't traded off h when's the next five weeks around army had said to me weeks later I was never even GonNa put making up as Oh okay and then when Mickey one the wall com on like this but Chrissie and Tommy and then he didn't and what is the connection between Mickey and Tommy and I will admit and I think cliff with spicy this as well that was part of my reasoning for not wanting to keep Tommy later on because I'm like this because she's not thinking votes don't and we need some backup so ultimately smart enough to want to do the same thing I knew that wasn't the case so it was frustrating yeah and also at this point Tommy and Christie you're gonNA start to work on you trying to make sure you know I mean look if Tommy Wins Agent Jack is gone or whatever then then it's going to start to fall to like four or five six like that place and I worry that you try to come up with a plan to maybe change this to make a deal with Tommy to use the veto on cliff you pitch to this oh you know everybody at work at like a college wherever it was asking them like we love Nicole we're GonNa vote for her and my sisters no do not there's two negatives at a positive they're gonNA pick me off as soon as they're able to so it was very frustrating because he he wanted to be good with everybody which rightfully so but he didn't realize that I am probably Christie or we're going to be like the main three and so it was like if everyone piles policy votes Jackson Christie and then maybe it's cliff and cat on the block nick is talking to you more about this potential six he you've told him and cliff now you're I'm and then so he won this one and he wanted to keep Jackson off the block because he felt Jackson would be a big target moving forward by neutralizing the whole situation by taking you cliff and himself and you are starting to feel frustrated by neck because you feel like he's trying to force you to pick a side yeah defied anyway Christie goes on the block but ultimately save Tommy never had any intention of putting Jackson the blocks and his safety didn't really mind much concerned about the cat so again my method this entire game was navigate down the middle with both sides kind of like I learned not to tell everybody everything but you know still navigate with them when it comes to me with that proposal I'm thinking okay this is great that's great if you know sis and Christy and Tommy don't come in keep cliff you you plan on keeping cliff you are the swing vote at this point potentially because it also seemed like for a while it seemed like it had conversations with Jackson where they were like hey in fact at the end of the previous week they had been talking he had made a talk he had made a conversation opinions and will who is thought would go up and I said I was like you said cat cliff I said maybe cat and like Oh you were McColl find some way to screw this up you're not yeah so sorry but I was like you gotTa vote from people like this yes it also turned on because Jess was talking Kristie lot about anti cat stuff for a long time and it wasn't until she talked with you where you were I'm but it seems to have worked on you a little bit here yeah I definitely heard out her campaign and I heard what she was saying she was so emotional passionate about it for me but we're are mean cliff really falling on the Totem Pole and in my brain me and cliff over the last two at the bottom like yes I'm close with Nick but I'm close with his ally and you did your campaign Wednesdays was what is interesting and so she makes very like Angel's that was a big part of her story in the House and so she is using this on you to be like you can't let Jackson stay longer than me I need and I can't makes a pitch to you then it's a very emotional pitch it's don't let me go home without completing my storyline and didn't want any of them to go home obviously cells with holly up there you know So I want you to run me through so the veto was used on Christie Oh yeah campaign Wednesday fights on Thursday schedule it was it was and it it kind of made like Mondays and Tuesdays a little boring but I for obvious reasons now right e-p-o-c-h I forgot to mention cap but yes I knew my people cat include angels and and something that cat had really been concerned about all season long story arc and you know the edit and America's favorite and logo after Mickey Okay Okay so I started weighing what was so interesting about the whole entire week was nick was under the assumption that I wanted to keep cat in the week and Tommy we're pushing for me to say I'm like there's something wrong here I'm not really buying it yeah so after Tommy wins the veto it's now definitely cliff and cat that are going to stay on the block suggestion Cat Hollywood replacement in this case but because I don't like the plan yeah I tried I mean for play games with her and that kind of explains a little bit how the relationship between the two of you functioned the next few weeks stay in the game long enough to take him out she's trying to pitch that she's going to get rid of Jackson that's a very hard pitch for most people to swallow because obviously very close to them and why would she go after him like overall it was actually not bad because usually usually like things down and it's it's very boring on Wednesday yes and you guys were usually very openminded about her mission and I don't want to necessarily put making holly off on an island because I need them and again being a numbers Gal I viewed it okay tell me to keep quickly that's who I wanNA keep but after hearing both of their campaigns I struggled so much this week because cliffs my guy he's my number one but I hear academy I told her would it surprise you if I said that she just felt bad she's like now I think that was the case she's like no oh just how close you were to go on the block when holly was h h and they were the ones that stepped in and saved you and at that point I still didn't know I know who I bought it from and an ultimate that like I wavered like almost every week when people campaign to like yeah I'll listen to both sides and I'll weigh the pros and cons and I was thinking like Oh interestingly this is a valid point maybe she when he made his proposal he's like what Nicole you have to keep cliff but everybody knows cliffs my Guy Christmas number one so I'm like wait what okay that's weird why would you why would you be consider keeping candidate she seemed to be back on maybe keeping cat train but so eventually cat is going to do her campaigning he didn't go to jess with after click after cliff went to you about the deal you went to Jess and you felt bad idea all he say in assists was pushing you to go and I am saying no no we wanted to save but holly was pushing so at that point and I'll I'll admit it like I didn't really believe that Christine me and my main concern was like she should be told she should be aware that hey this six is being formed and you're not a part of it and the game was this I told her and the same thing with Mickey Holly I was thinking to myself you know what this needs to be revealed because if we go into this next week and Mickey or holly is in in Holly and that's why I sat down with Holly Briar to the eviction and Holly I know you guys are very close with cat but you're also very close to cliff cliff WanNa work with you guys and my way of getting me cliff in a spot sides you know we're going to kind of trust US moving forward yes before that moment though you did as we mentioned earlier parts to get upset with you and cliff and they talk about how disappointed they are a new and you know what let's let's just blow up cliffs angels when I when I talked to Justin the backyard is she was she was under the assumption that this was you trying to like mess with her trying to like be and I can work with them and I'm fourth on the Totem Pole so I'm trying to think look at both sides but then I realized no again damage control I can keep my cliff but not angry and by the grace of God just comes up to me she's like coal I love you are spectrum not unusual name I'm not gonNa tell anybody told me I'm GONNA say overheard it and I was yeah like we we will go away for campaign day will listen to everybody and we'll see what we're gonNA decide true strange strange image control with zing when Bella was like zing exists only you know what it was a joke that's why it's called Zing only not in the game yes well just going to take this information and run run with it I said to her I said just you and I need to talk about some more choice she won't be mad at me if she finds out about this six down the line and let's say just wins the next age of age shogo after Christie or Tommy or and she will be upset with me because bliss well why would I tell you the specific name of the alliance I have that doesn't include you come on now through a lot of the black widows it's just blow it up who cares anymore and so that gets blown up once again have to do damage control with nick why didn't you tell me so I heard you and then it comes up to me and he's like no you're supposed to be my number one not telling us angels thinking because you're not a part of it here's the thing about this because when I found out steel right I I was in the Er probably hours just walking out with myself because the way I saw it on my own nick has a sixty all with all of them I mean Clinton and then can't exempt around the block cat is considered part of making holly and I'm seeing myself but where's jess maybe we'll go to holly and Mickey about it give it a minute and I got I got distracted or someone talked to me she went rogue at straight straight this is not with cap making Hollywood with the best not right like why should she be alone why should she be on an island like wow nobody considering her and I cried about it and all the pretend that she overheard by those still in the process of this this stuff is going to talk with cat and they are this is one cat really Nicole told me about the six personal lines because if she is I'm rebecca we four Nicole and everybody's going to be mad at me you know so here we go again to call you done did it again four knit or Tommy or Chris Sis could very easily go up to them and say hey cliff in col- created the final six to get rid of you and obviously that wasn't the case so it start off as me feelings praising baby Jesus thank out of how that worked out that you're not gonNa tell anybody thank you yes more more damage control ensure home it was a lot yup I created some but I also do damage control yes so so just in ca you don't have the best records we were like zing it was a joke and what our they bought so with clubs angels I was like what the hell is happening right now it wasn't gonNa work out that all of a sudden somebody wins that we get out Mickey and Holly One's GonNa Forget win at some point and I don't want to be the one to get thrown under the bus that I created this alliance so horrible for Jess but then on a game Sam point saying crap I need to get ahead of this before me get the blame for it again this game pendulum swings and I ah I tell you about with these people obviously I kept you safe with them I kept just from backdoor new and I told you to be on good terms with Justin cat or younger cliff that I'm siding speak with and then we're on a totem pole but I keep cat on keeping making hats that's what was so interesting because nick loss Bella and he lost Sam so at that point you just near can yes he's close to Tommy and SIS and whatnot but he's kind of adequate I was exposed to do damage control fellowship of the Zing Cliffs Angels Sixty to be fair was was on you but you still have to the holly straight to cysts I know in the target room with SIS for hours and I'm sitting there going what the Hell is she saying is she telling people hey a you saw and heard it from cat here but I it took you a little bit longer to realise how upset jess with was with you from the who about your students and she came out of the house like Oh Nicole is trying to make it out to Nicole is being mean to me and trying to make this out to be something it wasn't the point forward Yes yes but tell me about because we heard this story about cat talking to you and again cliff was my best choice that's guy so I'm like okay like again we're both upset and she was like right now you're playing knicks game you're not playing Nicole's game you're not thinking mm straight you need to ask yourself what would your parents think of you right now what would your students think of you right now and again it being a highly emotional day that off allies home I'd choose between them Buddha whatever so we're in the storage room getting our leader hose in for the next H. and it's me cat and this is my ally I love her so much so it was a crappy crappy situation and that's why going into the next age wage I was so fired up and I was yelling things out like I am strong and he even after Nick was evicted it was I understand your friendship I don't understand elmich chess he's gone so there was like a hang up there I never questioned from May rose us and I go you know what Nicole this is opportune time for you to say how much you love and respect them and you're so sorry that you're gonNa vote to heap so I turned them guys I and you angels or Nick Who's those people but cliff in Canada on the block so I have to make a choice so I was already crying all mornings I felt so horrible also cliff and I'm closer to cat or whatever and then catcher and cat was like you know you need to play your own game you need to be independent woman you need to make the choice it's best for Nicole like it was very very very I think a cat was was not taking the fiction very well which most people don't use me of otherwise for a man that just like annoyed me so I was very upset and she was very upset and then she came up through the kitchen how dare you spin and I was a cat uh I shouldn't have bothered because you know at that point cat turned to me actually just turned to me and I was like I'm just very disappointed in you I can't believe you do the joining us right now is coming up we'll just see what happens and I walked away from her so we didn't end on the best terms and that hurt my heart so badly because I would never put her up moving forward you know I love Chris Angel I love you all it sucks his position on on I think I actually more cliff but I love you both and it was the worst I shouldn't be talked a lot about how they felt like you were under the thumb of Nick at that point and they felt like you were being played and they're like oh I can't wait until nick turns on her in a vix her in my discord channel who wanted to know we saw cat often trying to paint a target on you cats now gone so you see all the draw disappointed I'll just so infuriated that she brought up my family and my students I'm like that's not what this is about right now so it is annoyed me they really to us I can't believe this the alliance thought Australia end unlike US three youtube closer than you are to me and I'm closer to Click we've known this just has said to me in the past you don't know which choice to make and what's going to screw up your game and who's going to be mad at you WANNA game who's going to you on a personal level so I was already going through a lot because again if I had one h I would not have all right parents say well my sister's sake what students think that I'm playing Knicks game and I'm upping independent woman and that hurt so Bailey because I knew I was playing my own game and to have somebody well justice her allies of her number ones she's not taking it well and moving forward into future weeks just will continuously bring up Me Nick and sort of crime or cat I would say that to me is down the storage room and was very emotional people what she say no she told me the cats of what was your impression of cat who did you think she was loyal to in the game we surprised to hear what she was up to behind the scenes I kind of view it's tough because like I said immediately got to work doing damage control as well talking about like the deal that was made in explaining it away and cliff really puts a lot of work for you as well saying that Nicole needs to come along with us she's the one person that I'm not going to leave her info cat when she did it I knew that was close to me close to Jess I knew she was close to making holly and that's just like it's never questioned because it is was an important one for him because there was sixty made to take him out Ideally go into power yes and so game and it's kind of like I can't expect somebody not to play their game

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Big Brother 21 | July 29 | LFC Roundtable Podcast

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Big Brother 21 | July 29 | LFC Roundtable Podcast

"Day In the one listed there <music> after three watching T._v.. Watching you'll be watching hello everyone and welcome to the big brother twenty-one roundtable podcast. This is the podcast where we break down everything from the feeds. I'm your host Armstrong and with me today Melissa Melissa Breath. I'm doing great. I'm very excited for terrence new setup. That's probably the most exciting thing that's going on this week but I know I'm excited to talk about big rather guys. You know. It's feels like it's been forever since last Monday but unfortunately we don't have Derek here but it'll still be a great podcast cast just not as long. Maybe yes hopefully hopefully also with me. Today is Brenton Brent. I am excited aided. I have not been on our H._p.. For an entire week I went to Connecticut to Gamble Azoff and I had such a good time. I hit a jackpot at the end and it was. It's like the best trip ever. I love winning the Enron walking out the door so I can take all my money with me and it's a fun week a feeds when I when I came back because I came back on Thursday night and that's that's when things got good so talk about how we are here live on Youtube and other places as well and you can join us in the a youtube chat if you want and we'll chat along with you as we go here but we did have I think a disappointing outcome in the h h though one that I think that we all saw coming in terms of the endurance competition it was not a wall but it was close enough as the the people that would have won the wall did just about as well as they were going to do in this strange competition before that happened of course we did lose Bella in in a vote by eight to and and Bella went home but but then we got this new this new age competition really seen anything like it before where they're hanging on these wires and they have handles and little footholds and as they pull with their arm their leg goes up and vice versa and then there's China Alec Hang on I I liked the concept of this and we talked about how proud they clearly were of it on the episode ultimately. I don't don't think it's enough of a difference from a wall competition but I thought it was a nice variety Melissa to to throw this in as opposed to just the wall. Yeah I think so too I mean we've seen the wall also many times and it was kind of cool to see a different. I mean to see how people reacted to this new system because for example Jackson at least on twitter of course was like Oh my God they're cheating. Why would they not move Jackson's arms and everyone else's his arms and legs are having to move and Jackson's not even getting moved? They just want him to win. It's rig Blah Blah Blah well of course like Jackson just determined that he's not gonNA and move arms. He's just GonNa stay tight like one of those gymnasts on like full rings and you know it was interesting to see the different strategies. I was trying trying to think like what my strategy would be and I have no idea but I think it would be similar to holly's when she wrapped her legs around robes. I probably would do that. Although it'd be a little worried that you know just like. I don't know something wrong what happened just like pop your leg off or something but you know it was it was it was something new so my favorite strategy was Sam's just slide back and have a nice nice lie down in mid Air Yeah. I don't know why he didn't stay there longer. I feel like he didn't want it enough. Rent I agree. I agree that this was this was <hes>. How should I say? I really visually appealing challenge to me. I enjoy watching this. It was fun watching it on the feeds in it's fun watching on the show I it was also so great seeing all the different positions because on the wall is basically one position or sometimes people like squat down like James did if you're selling out to do that here I thought it was interesting. How Holly Eventually Ashley won it by like having like one arm and one leg like kind of on the thing up in the air while the other one was like balancing off to the side unless you very elegant there and I was pleased to see her win this this people were not but I felt like I was glad we're GONNA have to put up with these people? I'd rather them come out of the shadows. <hes> stop being furniture. Don't be a doorstops this and stop being the lamp shade so she got out and she is. She's playing the game now Erin. He's playing the Game A._M.. Yes this is going to be pretty upset. That holly ends up beating her here because she really wanted to win and in particular Jackson was like no no holly no no no dropping. You've got to win this one and this felt like she was not trusted in that moment and so she's going to be angry as SIS is angry angry holly said today on the feeds yes. This is just always angry at everything which is very much the case. She's she's a little bit. It like wow now. I can't remember name from big brother. Candidate seven the girl she looks very similar to only she was super sweet and and the opposite he earned no. It's the other one stuff EST ammonia. All right esty was like super sweet and didn't do much in the game. This is not doing much in the game but like so bitter about everything in the world that are like just when you want to keep your mouth shut all of a sudden. She has an opinion about something like this area. Each food says so so there's tension already their intention is going to continue to build as the cracks that were forming in the previous week between <hes> Christie and Jackson that we I saw in that conversation with cliff and then built as nick started talking to to Jackson accenting telling him that Hey Christie's coming for you and cat was running back and forth and hearing from both sides both sides wanted to target the other and built and builds builds and builds until the point where holly ends up winning this age and she's pretty quickly talking to Jackson about how they are at the bottom of the six and they do need to change that somehow aw whether it's this week or sometime soon they need to figure out a way to get out from under this this four ahead of them and and Jackson's idea to get out from that is to to bring Clifton. He's so Jackson is going to be working on cliff throughout the week in the meantime holly is going to nominate Sam and Nick there was a little bit of talk of putting Nicole on the block but ultimately she was in fact old enough to put put Sam and Nick on the block and cat cat is trying to get Nicole targeted throughout this as well. That's been throwing Nicole under the bus for the entirety of the week trying to get her on the block. Now cat is also going to do another thing that is a big moment in the week because she's going to volunteer to be nominated for the block in front of many of these shooters as a way to. I guess hide her relationship with Holly. Um but it's hard to reason out exactly I mean. She said she's doing it for airtime so maybe that also is playing a role here but she's going to volunteer for the block. If if there needs to be a replacement nominee so cat volunteering for the block also trying to get Nicole on the block but ultimately it's Sam and Nick that end up on the block harebrained yes. I thought nominations where no brainer I thought they were making it a lot harder than it seems. It seems to me like they should have been because Jackson's a said this terribly paternalistic thing where if I were playing basically saying it's going to be bowled for a woman like Holly. It's two guys up on the block that he would do it but it would be really bold for her to do it. which I thought was just condescending as you know what but nevertheless those worthy correct combinations because one of them is going to go and one of them should because they've both been playing like Jack? Let's be I mean. I don't mean Jack Jack Shit so they've been playing terribles when I'm trying to say yes as many people in the Chad bringing up our good friend Jordan par another big brother Canada reference here as someone that volunteered for the block during during his closest allies H._O._A.. Train not go particularly well for him Melissa Now I. I'm wondering if there's any possibility that it could go that way in this situation I I mean I know that there is there's a very very slim chance if any that something it could happen here in Sam could be saved. There is a chance and that's why. I don't think that this is ever a smart move. Even if it's like oh well they won't know we're working together together or whatever like just don't this is not a good idea. There's always a chance something could happen and ends up going home this week so this this is just a bad play. I think yes because nick is going to win. The veto and cat is the immediate thought for the replacement nominee. There's some other stuff as well. L. Cat is going to reveal to holly an alliance that was formed. I believe since the last time we podcast. I think it'd happened after the last first round table. It's called cliffs angels much to Cliffs Chagrin. He did not want it to be called that in for very good reason because now is ratting out to Holly Holly and calling it. Oh it's cliffs angels toll about and she is going to let holly know about this alliance. Now I expected this to really start to spread ed after cat told holly about it but holly has actually been keeping it to herself. She said to cat later that she does not want the rest of the six to know about this alliance because she doesn't want them to not trust cliff because they really are trying to reel him into use him to take a shot at the others but she is using this information to to try to subtly get on cliffs side even more by talking with him and his allies and trying to make sure he feels comfortable. There's also a funny moment that I described this morning. Where Ah Holly is asking you didn't you didn't tell Christy though to Jewish and I thought I did? Why wasn't she there when I told her what what are you? What do you mean? What do you mean you don't know? Did you tell Christy or not why I don't I think I thought I did no no. No no I don I definitely didn't I definitely didn't okay good because if you tell Christy the whole house notes that was that was good so with nick having having the veto the question becomes who is going to replace Nick on the block. The immediate thought of course is cat as she volunteered and that was a good option for the six shooters however our cat has been working very hard to throw Nicole under the bus and holly is very anti Nicole at this point cat has been saying that Nicole is not on your side. You don't want Nicole here. She she is shady. She is somebody that you want to get out and so so holly is starting to consider well okay well. I've been having some good talks with Sam. He hasn't been associated with too much. Maybe it's worth trying to keep salmon grooming him as somebody that I can use to take a shot at Christie and Jack and those people people maybe this is worth considering. Maybe I should back door Nicole and she floats that idea out there but but Christie says no Melissa also off. It's gotTa be Sam. We can't leave Salmon Nick in the House of course yeah I feel like I feel like that makes sense for Christie Christie and you know it's just it's all just a bad situation all around because I don't want either of them to go so it's frustrating really oh no no no what I want Sam out of this House and interviewing with Rob Sister Nino yes I prefer Taryn. If I'm being honest because tearing down about some shit that went on during the game he has played terrible but let me just give my ran out of the way right now. Does me for one second okay. This guy guy had everything laid up by everything. I don't mean the perfect big brother game I mean he had the fan's dream and he's a fan of the show he had the feeling but let's be honest when we all dream about being on big brother. We don't dream about plane like Derek Basser. At least I do and I think most fans don't we dream in tears as he told them to tear in my as long as everybody else and everybody else would dream like Geno they wanNA play a little bit from the bottom and then had this epic tournament with the fans fans loved them. Everybody loves them and they go onto the finals. Hopefully when the game I know she didn't win the game but she almost that's fine whatever he had it all in front of it he had it. He knew exactly where the bodies were buried and you knew what the alliance was. He could not acknowledge that he was in trouble. He could not acknowledged. He was not one of the popular kids that he was not at the bottom. You had all the Information Melissa. I'm not even talking about the week one bullshit where he got O._B.. Up on the block or no reason whatsoever because he wanted to use the Goddamn veto which was stupid which was stupid I agree but then he had a second chance not a second chance to turn it all around. You tweeted it out. You're the chosen one this would be the chosen one and he's not the Chosen One. He is like worse than antics. He is joining. He tried to join the sits and they didn't even want and that's what happened and so now he's he's GonNa get evicted and he deserves it. I am so excited. Here's the thing I'm not saying he doesn't deserve. I'm not saying like but he plays so well. How could he be getting a victim radio music a great player like it just? That's not what I'm saying my voice I that's my jaren voice kidding kidding. I know it's none of us. Hopefully here's actually I. I here's the thing I'm don't think Sam is like an amazing player anything like that but I do think that he's good at competitions. He could win veto he could win. Can you know H O._H.. Whatever and I think if there's any chance of having the world unquote outsiders do anything in this game it would be ideal to keep Nick Sam Nicole and cliff and I think that those are the important members of of that well? They're like really the only members the outside but I think it's important to keep all those people there together and you know so cat can go this week in my opinion but you know now. We're losing possibly stamp so that's why I'm saying like I don't want him to go this week. I don't want him to go not because I love Sam but because I feel like that's our only chance to have anything happen so otherwise I just feel like they're gonNA get picked up by one maybe cliff Wednesday Joe h next week and he's able to maybe get one personnel like I don't even know maybe he would just targeted jess who knows so I just feel like in order to get anything going. We need some outsiders. I tell you a little secret and actually more worried about what an outsider would do with H H at this point. I am with the six shooters. I actually so I don't know what to do and I'm okay with it. Whereas I feel like somebody like Nicole or jess or cliff? I thought they could all screw it up I really do I feel like at at least six shooters. We're like okay well. We would expect them to do this and we're annoyed with that but we would expect it and it's good for their game whereas like if Nicole Winds H.. O. Asian ends up like getting nicotine exit or something like that like we will be furious with our N._F._l.. That will absolutely tarnish her legacy coming out of the house. People will be like she sucks. They'll even more mad at her than they will be any of the dictators so I I am worried as well but I would hope that they would be able to talk about for the fans are just when I feel like they're more matic cliff than they are any of the six shooters right now. Actually I do disagree with you you disagree with that. They are more mad at Cliff Jeff. I don't disagree with their anger. I disagree with the notion that they're angry because it was it was terrible move. I think their anger is misplaced. I agree we can talk about that. I WanNa talk about that as well but when we can get to it but yeah I agree it's not as cut drives they would have you believe yes so so so sam still on the block and and the question becomes is holly going to back door Nicole or is she going to put cat on the block and send Sam packing so so Christie is saying no no it has to be Sam. Come on and Holly Pretty much pretty quickly relents okay yeah you're right. You're right. <hes> you know okay cat. You're going to go on the block but she starts to consider again after talking with Sam and talking within the coal. She is really starting to feel like I don't know I'm kind of considering this in the meantime. Christie is really starting to wonder am I just being paranoid is Jackson are Jackson. It's not coming from me. I'm not sure what if holly comes to me and tries to convince me to get Nicole out over SAM. That's the sign that's the sign that she is conspiring inspiring and so what happens immediately following that is that holly goes to her and says I was thinking about it and I'm thinking maybe we should take Nicola. I don't know what do you thank and so Christi Tommy Talker down once again and immediately start getting very suspicious of hollies motivations this this all blows up. I talked about this in detail this morning. If you want to hear more about all of the detail but ultimately what we got here was a bit of a back and forth where this is really trying hard to get Nicole backdoor because this wants Sam there to take a shot at Jackson and Holly Wants Sam there to take a shot at Christy and Tommy and assist assist is pitching to holly about this but then also also running back to Christie and talking about how she doesn't trust Hawley and so she's going back and forth and cat is also somebody that has been going back and forth and so can't notices that this is going back and enforce and says hey this is back and forth and then Holly Wow sis is at fault for all of this and so Tommy and Kristie catch wind of that they realized that they got a little bit in trouble because they got caught being mad at holly and they go. Oh Yeah yes this it was we didn't for humor. We're mad. We weren't suspicious and that's about how the day ended yesterday today. Things have cooled down a bit. We got a six shooter meeting and the plan is this Nicu's veto cat does go on the block. That's what happened. The plan is to evict Sam now the sixers there's got together in the courtroom today and they all agreed the next two targets nick and Nicole now. There's there's a little bit of disagreement on which one should go first. Christie wants nick to go first sisters piping up saying that she feels like Nicole should go first. We know that holly has her own preferences but ultimately those are the two that they're publicly saying to each other that they want to target they also talked about where they're gonna go from here and all of that stuff but ultimately what it comes down to is that they're targeting nick and Nicole next now there were some things left unsaid here. There's still a lot a lot of talk between holly and Jackson they have approached cliff about potentially taking a shot at Christie. Jackson has also approached Jack about this and Jack has not revealed that too Christi he has hint he has talked about it a little bit with Tommy but for the most part Jack is actually willing to just kind of sit back and keep these conversations private sisters now also running back and forth between holly and Christie talking about how she's super suspicious of Christie now and she Christie was the one that got her suspicious of holly in Holly is like well wow why is Christie suspicious of me and things are starting to bubble up again. One of the summaries I wrote here was holly is still mad at cysts ultimately because this keeps flirting with Jackson and and this is mad Kat because cat is flirting with Jack. Insists said that cat doesn't know what the girl code is and that just pissed holly off even more because sys.. This doesn't know what the girl code is because she's been flirting with Jackson and Jack has been flirting with this which is making Christie mad because she feels like he's only only doing that to make her jealous because he's not feeling comfortable with her anymore which is actually true and Jack has also been flirting with cat because he's trying to keep her comfortable which which is making this even more uncomfortable with cat and mad at her and Jack in general is just worried about Christie running her mouth and now he's talking to Tommy about it and it's a big mess of mess here. Yeah that's just towns really messy and just I mean in man the drama the infighting it's not good hobby gardeners happy lots of showman's Melissa God. That's I think literally the worst part of big brother like no one wants to see that so cares. It's very honestly that's. That's really how I feel. That's how I felt. This whole week is like I don't care like at all. I don't care this. We can come and go and I don't care what happens. Once we found out the hey joe H I was like okay well turning everything off like who cares anymore. It's just it just I just feel like it just doesn't matter like none if it matters and that's not the way I wanna feel about big brother. I want to feel like it matters. I want to feel like there's a reason to tune in and I don't feel that way and yeah I know it's like oh well. Just we until the six shooters turn on each other but it's like we just had that big brother Canada and it's like when can we have a season where it's not just waiting waiting till the end game so we can finally watch big brother. It's like I don't want to have to sit here through these boring slogs of a week where we were nothing happens and we just we get an episode just kind of middle of the road. Maybe like a silly little little cucumbers segment and that'll be what we get yeah to look forward to. It's just it's very it's very disheartening. It's like I don't know I just I've gotten to the point right now where I just just don't really care and I'm hopeful that next week I care but right now I do not and it's sad well the the people in the house care and it does look like Sam. We'll be leaving unanimously. I do believe that Nick will also be voting Sam out this week nick doing everything he can to play to play dead to to play I. I'm completely gone. I am I am your slave. I will do whatever you need. I will tell you all of the things and and I'm completely on your side to the point that it is starting to work a little a little bit. They some of them do feel that nick would not come after them if he won in Asia wage though some of them don't feel that way and he is still one of their main targets gets he is doing his best to just play to placate them as much as possible so that's where Nick Stands Sam's looking like he's going home and and we're heading into next week with again Nicole and nick as the main targets but with a decent chance of things getting messy once again because while the six six have come back together and things have cooled off a little bit for the most part these cracks have not been they haven't been healed. They're still there. There's still under the surface exactly exactly yeah. I have to say that most. I share your pain I do. I I empathize that is with you but I feel like I can pinpoint where where we have gone wrong and I'm willing Charon to plan my flag in the sand right now and tell oh you that more than ever I wholeheartedly disagree with cliffs decision last week to not not go back on his word not put Christie or holly or whoever the hell up on the blog. I really do feel like hear me on this okay. You'RE GONNA say it was the twists faults now. He's on a choice fought whistling. We don't know here's the thing I the way things have transpired so far for cliff and the rest of us who have to wash this season endure. It is about the best case scenario. I do feel like for him given that he was guaranteed two weeks to safety hoping for the H. Two Split Open. It's looking like it's about the split open but it's not there yet and you really don't know what's going to happen. I feel like this is probably the best you could reasonably hope for. If you're somebody be like cliff on the other hand the one thing that really struck me when you're on the podcast with Carson and Mary was that you were so emphatic but cliff made the correct move and I am not here's the thing I am. I'm not sure that you're not wrong. I don't know I don't know too sure the I'm not sure here's the thing Nelson flag. I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm taking my stand I'm. I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm taking my stand. What I'm trying to say is this we do not know the alternate time online that would have happened if had gone back on his word? I know that you're saying cliff would have been the number one target girl. How do you know that because there would have been in the house how the hell are? They aided Bella Ella with a passion. Are you really going to tell me that even after he does that he's going to be the number one target for everybody. I don't think so I think they were gonNA put Bella and cliff up on the block. The Habit Bella would have been addicted cliff with a state but in doing so in putting Jack and what would have been like holly up on the block you force the six to pick a side guide you force him. That's four days of them campaigning against each other Holidays People Jackson Hats Jessica that all campaigning for that side were Jack Side. I'm Kristie Tommy. They're campaigning for him. Nobody gets what they want. Eventually they have to take a stand and what comes out of that is what then I feel like with repel hell cliff and the rest of them into a more vibrant season where he has more of a chance to play as things stand right. Now I feel like things are still a little all to settle for him to gain a foothold in this season and if he goes on to lose it I will point back at this and say I told you so well. I will say I of course that is all very possible and that's one of the reasons why I was kind of torn. At the time that I was like I kind of feel like this could work because of of the splitting effect but I will say that the way that I see that we playing out is that the reason Bella was targeted over both Sam and Nick even they were both bigger threats than Bella was because of the personal vendetta they had against her as you pointed out they hated her. They hated her for getting getting her nose pierced and say what alliance yeah imagine how much they're going to hate cliff for making one of the more cold blooded moves in big brother history right to their face tricking them all and even if there is a little bit of infighting over who goes home that week I. I don't think that's enough to counter the fact that you know Tom he's going to be hey guys. Remember cliff did this to us. This is what he wants. This is what this was his goal in the first place place he is the enemy we need to focus on him. I think one hundred percent they stick together. They're much more solid together than they were before because they now have a common enemy that they're going out that they're going to fight against and I think that the cliff is number one with a bullet not only are they angry at him the most I but he is also the biggest threat of all four of those people along with Nick Bella and Sam and with Holly. I'll ultimately winning this. H H as predicted did that one of them like Hollywood. I do think that cliff would probably be going home this week. If he had made that move I use the thing I just feel like that as an an older player and we talked about this last week with Derek and I came here who wasn't a chat. I WANNA give them credit for cinema this Bill Hall. I can't remember who said as an older player. You have to play a risk your strategy. You have to play balls out. You have to really go for the pot ochre and I it. Is the riskier move now. We don't know what the time would have looked by. We don't know what the house would have looked like if you had done that. They don't know how mad they would have been out of I will I'll say this though I've been impressed with how the basically him putting Jacqueline Jackson he's like. Did that even happen because they're totally fine with cliff now. So are you know of course that's because they stayed but he's still took a shot at them and yet it's like not even talked about with them so I will say this cliff on behalf half of them. I'm not totally coming for him. Though on behalf of him he picked path and he has stuck with it is stuck with it's the point where he's talking about. My word and you know it's good and I'm with Dizin. If you need me I'm here for you and I'm all for that. That's great. We'll say this also hollies problems this week San from the fact that she didn't know what the hell she was doing. She did not have APP in mind mind. She put up Nick and Sam on the block. Immediately is thinking well. What about Nicole? Nicole is definitely a possibility but if you wanted to do that should put Nicole up with with nick or Sam nurse spot just lay it more ballsy that way you at least give yourself an option because as things stand right now I feel like you're going to be forced into a situation situation where you're either reveal your hand like she did Christie trying to effectively campaign to get the call out of the House over Sam and you Sam as a weapon against them or you're going to have to get Sam out of the house which yeah that's kind of good for you. I guess but it's not really going to help your cause if you're really at the bottom of the six as they feel they are so that's her problem that she didn't take a path so I'm giving cliff higher score in general as far as picking a path because he at least committed to something even if I do agree with the decision he committed to it whereas where's holly has not yes and to be clear. I think that cliff I do think the cliff made the right move. It was the move that I felt was the stronger move at the time. I feel like it's played out in that way but that doesn't mean it was one hundred percent. I don't know what would have happened if he had gone the other way. Maybe that would have turned out better. I personally you feel like it would not have but I also want to say that. I don't feel like this is cliff's fault. I feel like this is the fault of the twist cliff tried to take the shot the twist put them in a really bad spot you had to pick between a rock and hard place and he chose the hard place and he hoped that it was the right move and it's worked out pretty well for for him so far but if you've chosen the rock still would have been really tough spot and I can't. I can't fault him for not choosing the rock. It was the twist the put them there in the first place he tried. He put Jacqueline Jackson on the did and that's why I don't I don't. I don't come from it as hard as I could but I would've liked for him to make the move that we all wanted to make. I'm like gum. Kinda like with Kirsten and Mary is win. Equity is non-existent anyway like I have make the move like play ballsy or why not your big brother like I do. I do agree with that yeah. That's my main thing is just. I just wish he did it. Because that's a move that will make you remember like that's got to move. That could possibly get you America's favorite player. That's a move that that creates a narrative for yourself in the game otherwise there's a possibility not that clip goes home like next week or something and that's his story is nothing and our luggage the story of it could have been great and that's not what kind of legacy at least like I would wanNA leave. I understand trying to play it safe and being like look like I can't do this. I'm just going to see if I can make it a few more weeks to jury whatever I'd get that APP like that's not the way I would say. I play also wall. Whatever you have to do make a legacy for yourself be remembered you know I would you just get out there and play and I had thought you know when cliff was doing his whole like by himself like there's a new sheriff in town if you can call when we bought all that stuff I was like he has guys going to do it is going to do it and even though the twist Gruden yes yes? We can all agree on that. I just thought that it was going to be like you what I'm still gonNA go for it. Who Cares whatever I'm just GONNA play? I'm going to play dirty. I'M GONNA play whatever I have to do like to make a name for myself in play the game of big brother but you know I get I get the reason why he did it but I'm still disappointed right. I think is Jeff. PROBST doesn't survivor. He always wants people to play the first time Eh. They're playing for their second time and I that's what I would really wanted for cliff was for him. Just go balls out do everything he could be remembered play. Take the riskier scare. Play your win equity so low. Why not you never know what I mean? Like how shake up I think would have been greater than what Taryn is opposing. It might also be correct so I don't know I'm. I'm just saying that that timeline is so unclear that I would rather have seen that in the status quo as it stands but he didn't do it so we'll see maybe you maybe in my work out for him and I will say this too. I think that if cliff is going if cliff goes home this week following the big move a lot of people would be like yeah sure that was exciting cliff but that was a dumb move lodge. Why did you do that? That was so dumb you went home the next week of course you're going to go home the next week so I think it's again. It was a hard one to win either way. He went there but I do. I do agree that the more exciting way would have been at least a little bit better so let's talk about the state of the House here because there's some interesting dynamics at play. Obviously six shooters are still running the game it's Kristie Tommy Jack Jackson and Holly. However is a bit of a new structure performing at the moment? It's a very fluid structure because things keep changing. It was for a long time this week Christie Tommy Jackson versus Jackson in holly but it's changed a little bit. It's actually becoming Christy and Tommy versus Holly and Jackson with Jack insists kind of in the middle kind plane both sides this. I think on Accident Jack a little bit on purpose and there was a fun conversation. Between Jack insists today where she she was like. I Love Kristie but she's really starting to freak me out and he's like yeah. Keep that to yourself. Stop don't say anything so both sides of this kind of infighting are hoping to use cliff to strike at the other both sides think that they have cat except for Tommy on both accounts. Tommy does not trust. He thinks that she's on the other side and he also does not trust cliff because he thinks that he's smarter than to stay true to this deal <hes> so that being said Christie wants to use cliff Christie feels decent with cat and then Jackson Holly also want to use cliff <hes> they feel very good with him and of course they also feel very good with cat because of hollies connection to get and I shouldn't say Jackson feels good about cat. He hates her and still wants her gone but but holly is I is keeping him in line. As far as that's concerned so cliff and cat I called them quote unquote bought and paid for that's how Jack Likes to describe them that they are they have been bought they have been paid for and they we do not need to worry about them. It's the other people we need to worry about Nicole Jess and nick as I mentioned they are targeting nick and Nicole that is about the state of this six shooters Alliance Melissa. Can we get suggest like honestly she does. It's nothing like she contributes nothing. If anything she's like and that's the thing is like because she contributes nothing. She's probably go pretty far and that is going to be so awful like and then think about it. What a waste of a week to like? When the week we get out suggests ways? No one's GONNA WANNA get like we're going to be bored because double get her out. Yes like she's not going. Donald you just gotta get her quick. Quick out for not doing anything to like you know campaign or anything like totally useless not just GonNa hold a candle to flee from big brother Canada or Nikki from Canada. Both those people were like odds on goats to go to the end people that would have taken far in the game but through the mechanisms of the game and the structure of when I probably shouldn't have and I don't think probably would have if not for that Great Victoria yes exactly she was going to go home with the final five. If not for the Reset Yes oh. I do think that there's a chance that could go home scenario like that but we're going to have to get lucky moas otherwise she's sitting in the vinyl to just is so awful. She's not doing anything I had I. I hope I had eight yeah like her. Inter ear <unk> her interviews in the beginning. We don't her first couple weeks. I felt like you know she's willing to do something. She seems to be willing to play what happened her that she for my for my perspective Melissa it's like she was playing the game. She thought no one noticed then she got caught. She somebody ratted her around those she was put up on the block she was like she's like forget it. I'm never again I don't or honest I trust Christie. She's a straight shooter and then anytime people are like Oh yeah there's an alliance. She's like no not those not now. It got into that argument with Sam last night and it was so it's so annoying because everybody else besides just knows that there's the those six are working together. I've never seen a big brother season where everybody knows that this sort of secret alliance is all working together like Nicole cliff. They all know the six they all know about the six. They know who's in the six like. I've never seen anything like this where it's just accepted that they're all working together and they're like the media can get in yeah. I know I know that y'all come in for Nick on on twitter but I do feel like he's playing about as well as you. Can I mean he can't what do you want him to you. Go Up to the sixth of these people and say I'm one of you bitches overall you like he has to kiss their ass. Hopefully cut them off from the inside but you know <hes> <hes> I'm trained for dining room of nick like getting these bastards for Bella. I do think that he feels that way. I know you feel by Tommy's bullshit. That's the thing I don't know it's possible but I feel like I don't know I just I you know what I say. I think he's I think he's could be useful if like if he might be absorbed into the Christie Tommy side of things and be useful Wednesday Joe H and pointed at Jackson and Holly. I mean that might be the extent of what we could hope for with Nick Yeah. I think he has to win. H wage wage. I think that if he doesn't and Christie does not decide to turn on Jackson next week. I think that she will with her power and shore that he goes home home. She seems to be dead set on that at the moment at the moment but if he survives that then maybe maybe we'll talk about it so also of course cliffs angels angels but it's not a real. We're bringing that up. It's like I I mean. I know you have to bring it up. Come on like I was really glad to holly didn't run with this because I saw cat told her and I was glad that she basically kept to herself. I couldn't tell I couldn't tell if she didn't wasn't threatened by it didn't care or didn't didn't really believe it was a thing or she just didn't want to solar eclipse name with the with the six. I know that's what she eventually said but I felt like there were maybe most is not anything. It was something like okay hat and Josh. I think holly thinks it's a thing but but cat portrayed it as a thing thing but cat was like no it's not it's not really a thing like I don't trust Nicole and Jess Jazz. I just like quick has my back but you know so. Of course it is cliff Nicole Jessica. That's that's that's cliff cliff angels relevant I think only in the sense that it could completely trash all of their games if this gets out to a wider spectrum there all right all right anything else that we need to talk about before we get to the Stock Watch. Is there anything you WANNA talk about. I don't know I'm hopeful. Ah for the state of the House and where things are hoping that the wounds that have not been healed yet. I hope that they are torn open in not papered over ever but I am you know after being burned by the last two seasons. I'm with Melissa. I'm like at this point. Show me don't tell me I don't WanNa hear about what you're gonNA. Do I WANNA watch you do it so until that happens and yes I'm expecting I'm expecting something along. The lines of you know next week. Things continue to escalate and maybe a shock. It's take an or maybe nick goes home and then the shot gets taken the next week because I think with Nick Gone. I think they'll feel relatively comfortable doing it because they think both sides. I think they have cliff on their side. This clip doesn't get caught which is very possible given how has been behaving in the house but if he does not get caught I do think they would take a shot. After nick is gone for sure because there's no threats left. It's just Nicole ingests and cat and cliff cliff is the tool that they want to. I used to help beat the other side so I do feel like that's coming but I am concerned about you know mostly about this field trip twist. I know the details of it. I'm just I'm just shooting the Shit here but I have to. I have to believe that they're not. I'm trying to pull a fast one on us. I mean they said you know we're going to send three people on a field trip and one of their games is going to be in jeopardy. I know that some people have talked about what happens to the other two people do they get a good power or something no like when you have the host of the show Julie Chen openly coming out against the six shooters six six shooters and Jack in particular on twitter which I don't remember her ever doing like in this way or she's totally sandbagging and making them look Arab <hes> when that's happening. I feel like the the producers of the show they what's going on. Maybe they want to get like this is their effort misguided as it is to give the fans what they want which is an opportunity to get jacker Jackson out of the house like that's what it is it is and that is also something that concerns me a little bit because I feel like it depending on the nature of this if say Christie Jack and Jackson and up as the three that get sent on the field trip and one of them ends up endanger. Let's say that person is Jackson or let's say Jack and maybe Jackson third nominee. He's not getting voted out. It's very unlikely that he gets voted out in that spot and then nothing comes of it except that now they they are more scared of like no we gotta we gotta really tighten the ranks because twist could come screws at any moment <hes> that tends to happen with these or almost worst almost worse is that one of them just like straight goes home if they lose a competition or something. Let's say it's I mean even even Christie but particularly Jackson just goes home because of the twist now all of the infighting and now Ahali can freely join the rest of the five and cat and all of the tension just dissipates because Jackson's just surgically removed from the equation and he is a key piece of all of the tensions that that concerns me now again. We don't know what it is and we don't know that that's the result that it will have but it is something that I worry about because it's about when they talk about because they don't tend to do them very well. Yeah I wanted to I. I'm very confused by this twist so I feel like I want to get it like it cleared up. I guess we don't really know all the details of the like for example we know if they're going to explain to the house guests at like you guys were voted voted for because you're gonNA get punishment or like America decided to hunt issue or is it possible that it would be interpreted as like as it's like America giving you a reward that you've got a field trip means like is there any way this could be interpreted as a good thing that they get I mean I think it depends on whether it's their game. That's endanger or if they have somebody else's game. Put somebody else's game Deidre. If one of them is in trouble then I think they'll interpret this was not a good good thing but if they if it's like try a tribunal or whatever it is in the challenge where they are choosing somebody collectively to put as a third nominee or something along those lines then I think they would obviously look at that as a reward and of course if that were the case it'd be worried about the fact that I think it would probably be there and I don't know what she would do. In terms of blocking anything hang on anything good. Do we think that they're going to further explain this. <hes> so that way we can vote for the right people or do you think it's going to be like you could influence is a game with the other voice. I'm worried that is the big brother voice actually think about it great but you know it works it serves Thursday purpose but I'm concerned Urfi reasons number one. It's not explained properly and we all think oh we're going to punish these people so let's spoke for Jackson and Jack and Jess or example. Let's punish them. Whatever so then they go there they end up winning? A reward is not a punishment they they get to choose someone to punish the house we end up losing cliff or Nicole or whatever because of this thing that we thought we were voting for a bad thing okay so there is that option and number two is it's. It's posed to the houseguests as like America voted for you and now you're GonNa get to do this thing. Oh it turns out. It's a bad thing but I mean maybe Americans didn't know that maybe they think that they think that they have been selected for this reward and because we love them then that influences the rest of the season because then the outsiders except for like Oh no America loves these guys we have to work with them or or Christy and Tommy or whatever like Oh. We're so worried about our image. We want to work with them because you you know we we want to work with. The people of America loves so I feel like there are so many ways that this can be interpreted unless big brother tells us explicitly that if you vote for them to go on this field trip it is a punishment. One of those people on the field trip will be affected their game in a way and they will be informed that this is a punishment like I believe there is a very set set parameters need to be in place in order for this to be a good thing for all of us as the audience otherwise. It's just it's too messy. I think they'll explain it. I mean I think that come Thursday or whatever they'll be like all right. It's time for America's vote. You know you're going to be voting for three houseguests guest to get in danger for elimination or double even and ready who started saying they figure that out here Jackson ally might have come from him but he's really affected everyone with it. Actually was what if it's like what if it's a situation where it's like okay they go on this field trip which is actually a fun field trip however one of them one of them's game is in. Hey producers want their pound of flesh they want. They're just saying like the fun field trip but then they get then in one of them is up for auction like and then it's like Oh but America didn't know their ward and so then they're like we're the good guys and then everyone then thinks they're the good guys and that's what happens and I feel like that is like okay. We need like me as the lawyer to come in and be like okay so the fine print everyone. That's the thing you've gotta read the lottery the fine print you gotta read the disclaimer you gotTa have like in in the event that win. Such in knowing will be honest. We know this theory yeah. I know you're is like Oh we wanna work with miracle loves and we think we're voting something in the end up voting for something else olds and nobody's building this is lawyer speak. I'm telling you as in Brentwood Brian would not be able to to match you in a court remorse. Thank God and not in the courtroom. Yeah this is this is relevant to me because I look at you know contests sweepstakes voting all that stuff you have to have the rules very specific you know and and all the ads need to fully disclose. They can't have misleading advertisements here so you know just saying yes. I want to know exactly what I'm voting for here right. I I agree hopefully they hopefully they let us now all right so well to change the subject. Do you think there's any chance that that cat goes on this week I do. I do think that the openings there. I don't think it's likely at all but I do. I can't see a path which she's more than I can say for a lot of situations because has been running back and forth between Christie and Holly and Tommy it has already expressed that he is kind of catching on that cat and holly are close and they're talking a lot and he he in particular does not really trust lost cat with running back and forth and talking about things like cliffs angels and being Super Paranoid and like are you gonNa vote me out or you're gonNa vote me out. I could see something start start to start to form and also if the cracks continued to gather in terms of the Christie versus holly stuff then it could be a similar situation to the Nikki Bella spot where they decide. You know what cat is a number for holly. If we're going to take our shot against holly in Jackson next week then we might it is well starting out and take out cats so that there's no there's less chance of retaliation here is that is that possible. I think theoretically it's possible that the path is there but there's a lot that needs to happen in order to get there in the first place and I think it's pretty far fetched at the Moment Okay Yeah. That's I mean that's kind of what I was seeing too is that there's a chance slim chance but a chance nonetheless but the likelihood of cat going home this this week is not happening also a month comment about in the chat about Brent being held in contempt of court back here. Yeah I had to leave for a second. I'm sorry I may happen again. I need how water because as I told IRNA Melissa I'm not GonNa get into it. I have an infected finger and I have to soak it in hot water and and it's really painful right now. See that's why I guess if these were the live feeds then we'd be zooming in on that finger and Jack and many other people would be surrounding it and poking at it and like now we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back and we're back so let's get back to the show all right. Let's talk about the Stock Watch. Let's give these players some ratings. I'm going during that up here. You can see the document to yes everything looking looking. Well not sick all right so let's let's rate some of these players. We're GONNA START WITH OUR H. O._H.. Holly Ali Um. I cannot say that this has been a great week for Holly usually is in twenty one h but it's especially not when you win eight your wage and you can't see that this is perhaps the time for a move which is not something that we've talked about a lot yet on this. This podcast which is holly. I think missed a huge opportunity here in the same way that nick and Bella missed their opportunity. I don't think it's quite as urgent as nick and Bella situation they were in but I do think it is somewhat urgent and I don't know how many more chances she's going to get to take this shot. I think that she does have the backing she has Jackson and and cat who are immensely loyal to her. She has cliff who I think will back the play even though I don't think he's reliable in the long run and then of course jess comes comes along with cat that somebody that they can pull over as well and they can use nick and Sam who would be absolutely loyal to them moving moving forward they said at the start of the week we never had anything against you guys it was Christie that screwed us over so if she takes some kind of shot at that group I do feel like she has the numbers to back Kerr up and she can start something new moving forward especially considering how much Christie and and Tommy and even Jack Jack and insists at one point. We're talking about making some kind of move against them so I do feel like this is something that she should have considered or really at the very least putting cat on the block was a risky move here where like I said if they were taking a shot at her. This would be the opportunity. She is bearing her neck. I like hey if you're if you WANNA take the shot. It's here it is and that's that's a risky play. I don't really agree with what she's been doing this week as H._r.. Wage Age and I was pretty high on her last week but Melissa. Let's start with you. You are the lowest of US three here. You had a six four holly last week. How do you feel about her her this week? You know I don't know I feel it's hard to judge because I don't think she's doing a bad job now that that she is a to age but at the same time I'm Kinda like well. Did she need to win. H This week I don't know it was down to her analyst and if anything the fact that she stayed on so long kind of look bad considering it's like hey we're all supposed to be on the same team here and then you see Jackson off the side being like don't drop don't drop. It's like okay okay now. I feel like there is something going on so I you know I don't quite like that. She got h but at the same time it's kind of like you know whatever when h h aged we're getting down to a or if it's down to the two of you might as well do it like why does Donnelley's it be h wage not you but I don't know I don't. I don't feel great because I do feel like. Do you feel like she's kind of easily influenced by Jackson which I don't think is super great. I don't know I feel about the same as holly as they did last week even though she's H._O._A.. Jr which is Kinda crazy so I'm just gonNa give her six again so I'm going to give her a four which is a three point drop from what I gave her last week and the reason being I felt great about her position before the the events of the last week where we learned that like all of the tension built between Christie St and Jackson all this stuff really started to come into effect here after the round table last week and her position position slowly deteriorated even before she became H.. O. H. Then she one eight zero wage and she is now sullying her herself in terms of the fact that she is getting rid of Sam who was a potential allies. Were somebody that she could have picked up. She is angering nick in the process. Nick is going to be running to Tommy and Kristie so he's going to be with them. On their side of this war she's lost Sam and nick she also has talked about putting Nicole on the block doc and everyone knows it so she's not exactly picking Nicole up anytime soon due to her indecision over the course of the week as h wage and so it's all she has left is the person she had a connection with outside of the game and Jackson who is her showman's and maybe cliff if only because she's in the worst position and therefore more appetizing for him to like go to to help bolster that side to help go to war with the other side but man. It's it's a bad spot is she's lost. I think she did the worst possible thing that she could with this H H. I think that she not all her fault. The fact that nick one veto really didn't help but I think this is the worst outcome that she could have other than just going completely crazy and trying to take jess out or something and so I feel like she is going to be isolated even if she tries to take a shot. I don't think it will work if she doesn't try to take a shot. I think the shots going to get taken at her and I think that she's going to be in trouble. I I really have been disappointed in holly this week. So that's why I went with a four Brent you think I mean I'm going to drop her. It's just just how far do eyedropper I. Here's the thing I feel relatively good about her decision to win. H H I know that she had to fight it out with with SIS hand Dan at some point. I feel like you do have to prove yourself and I was okay with her winning. H H this week there were two obvious nominees. She knew who they were. She didn't make it complicated. Hey did she put them up on the block. I was hoping that she could do that and then fade back into the background. Now I will blame her art because as I said she didn't really take a path. She didn't know what she wanted to do with this. H You really want to get one of these guys out or do you want to get somebody else out because if you only get somebody else I'd like Nicole if it behooves you to put her up on the box on the beginning and just tell people look. I don't WanNa take the chance that Nichols veto or something I want. I want to give him the lease chances possible so I'm GonNa put saying on the block with the coal on a leave nick off the back door him. Just sell them a load of bull if you want if that's what you want and eventually getting a call out of the house but the way you played it. You didn't really choose you. Let other people choose for you and so that impacted your position in house how ever as Taryn points out if Jackson does go home through by way of a twist I do feel like holly will be harmlessly reabsorbed into the five live and also if they go on the block. I feel like Jackson's going home. Holly is in their good graces. That's why you use a meat shield or a meat shield. They'd you have the people that back them up and although I don't agree with her decision to add up on the block I feel like it was kind of out of all his hands in some way because cat opened her big mouth and then it got out the volunteering and then she was like Oh what can I do so I still believe in her and I'm very taken with <unk> her reads on the game although she did screw up a few things over the past twenty four hours since I said that on twitter I am very taken with how she sees house. How she sees who's in control role who she feels like is right at the end and who she feels like is not and I do believe in her relationship with cap that it will hold? I don't feel like I think thank you said a couple of weeks ago that you thought that Hollywood thrower award for Jackson. I don't really feel like I feel like she's in it to win it with got. I don't know how that's GonNa work out but I feel like at least it's somebody so. I'm GONNA give us. I feel pretty good. I had her a seven last week. So it's down a point and I bought stock so do the home well so in regards to whether or not Hollywood shoes Jackson over cat I do feel I do feel a little more comfortable that might not or that the call he might not drop cat immediately because holly did not mention the cliffs angels to to Jackson and so I do feel like there's a little bit of leeway there but I still feel like I still feel like she would drop cat if if she needed to and I don't think she would really go out on a limb for her I also wanted to get your take on their <hes> their conversation where they mentioned that Oh hey now we can talk about knowing each other now. We're allowed to talk about. I mean I'm obviously vindicated by because I was telling y'all that before the season even started at these two bitches knew each other and that they were plotting and scheming from before even going in the house so I mean it's hard I it's hard for me to believe that production didn't know about it because I knew you about it has to be they want to know the tea so I feel like it was probably a mandate from productions not not discuss it on the feeds because they have to listen to people bitch about how it is unfair for Christy and Tommy know each other on the other hand Gardner said at the beginning of the season the tell me and Christy know each other like summer camp which I former big brother houseguests than I talked about on Twitter D._M.. Like how pathetic is that that they're excusing their shitty ass as with there the team from the summer like Oh just like summer camp people might know each other so yeah I know right who is that I don't know but it's so bad casting was so messy in bad this year. It's kind of embarrassing. It's very it's just not really professional. I I feel it's like diligence and make sure that these people don't already know each other and I think the only reason they addressed the Tommy in Christie thing is because there are so many pictures of them together heather. I think that if there were a lot of pictures of cat and holly together I think they would have said something about them as well because you know they said like Oh you know people may know each each other for example like timing Christie and they never brought that up again like the people who are saying oh well that was intentional not intentional. That's intentional. They're they're trying to to put this under the sweep it under the rug. They're like the noticed that they did not have they tried to have his little little of cat or as little of Christy and Tommy talking about knowing each other as possible around the same period that they talked about cat and holly knowing each other to make it seem like forget about this other thing for just come to the realization. Maybe on your own privately that Oh wait. There's two people in so and don't forget Jack. Yeah Jackson followed holly on instagram before the season. Even started is aware of who she is so on that those those connections are also having those those connections the twists. They're all of these. Things are really coming together to to to give us the season that we've gotten so. I'm really hopeful that they think it is impacting. I'm really hopeful and this is not look. I'm sure as I said before Robin Cass. I'm sure that and her team do a fine job they try. I do believe there are people in their team that try their hardest. They're doing an honest day's work when they're trying to cast this show however I do feel like they they would do although some fresh blood and I was reminded on twitter yesterday that the person who cast over the top which has an amazing cast of people all of whom felt like like real people that were hungry as shit that money and they were only playing for half the money that they're playing for here. We're all cast by somebody who was not robbing casts. They were why why are the court in the chat gift production and break guys. It's clearly very difficult to find sixteen Americans who don't know each other right. There was just just you just ituna. Bomb is the guy who cast B._B.. O._T. and I wasn't aware previously that Robin cast in Catherine at least I forgot it so yeah. I don't know what's going on again. She doesn't have all L. D. say so over the season as a say so because she also has the Canada I enjoy their casts. I get it get it get but never nevertheless big brother like this is just your daily reminder in case. We've forgotten it because I know that many of us try to for not you to talking about and just people in general trying to forget. That's the first four people actually eliminated from this season. We're all people of color. We all remember that. Did we all forget that. I'm hoping that like big smear on the season is the impetus that that that drives them to replace the casting team. I really really hope so. I know that J._C.. Dare to bring up. His name was talking about it on his show small talk with J C Mo whatever his his name is and she was and he was talking about Bella where he was good things yeah I thought it was okay but Abella was being asked about how racist her season was and even though J._C.. Couldn't correctly identify lovie as a person of color. Yes J. C. O. V. as a person of color our he didn't even recognize that if you don't know sorry I can't help but shade him you know I don't. I don't enjoy the J._C.. Of It all so yeah I mean I've never said before. They should figure out new casting situation but I I think they need to figure out a new casting situation. I just like you. The you know like court jokes like you know Oh. They can't find sixteen. Americans don't know each other like I mean I know it's a joke because obviously the easiest thing in the world defined marriage sixteen Americans who don't know each other like come on just look elsewhere other than instagram like top influencers like these guys aren't even top influencers. It's not even like oh but it makes so much sense. We gotta get these people because also like you also run an instagram that does not mean you're GonNa go then. Watch them on big brother like I'm sorry you're not and you know I think it's we haven't even gotten him yet but just like to complain about Jack Him talking about you know why isn't a coal even here like like I'm sure her casting assessment like when she was going through casting it was so much harder for someone like Nicole again on the show and was for Jack founding some bar bar somewhere and for them to be stuck on the show a week or sequester ended so you mean a break with that it doesn't become you also casting you just in case I was the only one that heard it about a minute ago Brent said yeah and it sounded like Kermit the frog to me and I said Yeah like Ah House I can't. I can't do kermit the frog. I'm just waiting for the audio listeners if you're interested in going back and checking that I don't know when it was about current would I'd say yeah all right so we haven't finished holly. I'm sorry Daryn all alright so the audience was very low on holly last week. They gave holly a four which we felt at the time was like whoa audience. What are you doing doing but I bet they felt very vindicated this week? They stuck with their four and I'm down there with them now. Even though Melissa and Brent Heaven followed quite yeah. We'll see how things go from here just to be clear my my rating. I believe I do believe that. She has played this week not as well as she could have however I do think her a position in the house is okay. Jackson's always going to get addicted before her and I don't think that on her own people are going to look at some big bad guy. I really don't I just I don't know how first of all if she goes up on the block next to Jackson and Jackson's veto lights out first and then even if Jackson goes so even if Jackson goes home I feel like I don't know how she's able to repair those relationships after they just turned on her. I feel like similar to how nick is trying to do his best to crawl back to them. They're never going to be like Oh yeah. You're definitely going to forgive us for your boyfriend like that. Did I mean 'cause lifted cliff. Clippers sterling lifted it yeah I feel like she is she is she's smart woman. She really is I know that we've made jokes about this in the past with Cabbie and a beauty contestant but Allie was also a beauty pageant contestant and took it very seriously from what I hear and those women. They really know what they're doing so I I feel like holly has the things you say you need to have in the Big Brother House. She has ability to win endurance competitions she is I feel like she's respected in the Big Brother House. I do feel like she could win. A jury votes. I feel like her position is not terrible although she has played this week. I wouldn't say as as worst as she could play but it's pretty bad pretty bad yeah. I feel like she's been saved because of her position right yes all right. Let's talk about Jackson Jackson as the CO H this week you know holly and Jackson they did try to avoid spending a lot of time together and isolating themselves at the start of the week but that really quickly went by the wayside and end Jackson continues to Piss off Christie to make a bigger target of himself and he's also gaming very hard the way that he has approached Jack and cliff about targeting Christie is very dangerous now he kind of has to because he is on the bottom and he's gaming his way out of it and if he gets through this I can see a path through through this for him but it's it's going to be so tricky tricky because even if even if cliff is dumb enough to take the shot four Jackson and and be the weapon that Jackson uses to take take a shot at the other side. I still feel like there's no way Jackson is able to and I might have said Jack there. There's no way Jackson is able to to hide the fact that he's complicit in it because he's mentioned it to Jack and he's mentioned it to other people and it's out there that he wanted to do this and I think that Jackson is always always going to be the target ahead of Holly. I think the Jacksons path to the end has has just gone down and down and I think it has worsened considerably during being this H._O._A.. Train I dropped holly from seven to a four. I'm going to drop Jackson from five to three. I do not feel good about him even in the short term but but especially now in the long term unless he really make some things happen for them in the coming weeks so that's how I feel about Jackson Brent. What do you think I feel similarly about Jackson listen? I do feel like that. There's a chance that he's on his way out either via the twist or via the House I think it would be more satisfied with the house and I would be the really sad if this is what ends up getting kicked out because I feel like house is going to do it on its own. I don't feel like he's long for the game. There's a small chance that he could turn it around because he is on the the bottom as Teheran said but I I think that the people he's depending on like cliff are smart enough not to make the move that they he probably needs them to make so given that I mean what I had him at a sorry four last week. He's definitely played worse. It's just I want to go down to a to. I don't think he's worthy of a two to is like like just territory so I'm going to stick with three and desserts it and keeping my three as well name reasons you guys said and same reasons I said last week he's just this is not doing itself. Any favors. People are upset with him in the way he treats people and I think that his game will come to an end right well. That's going to be straight threes four Jackson here because the audience also dropped from their four down to a three or Jackson on right talk about Sam. I still had some hope for Sam and there was a chance he could have stayed this week because Christie really wanted nick out over Sam but things are looking dire here this week he did not win. The veto nick won the veto and now Sam up on the block next to cat. We talked about it just a second ago that ah things very unlikely that Sam survives the week Melissa. What are your thoughts I oh I don't feel great about his game? I mean I think that there's there are some chance that he stays but I'm yeah. I don't know I it's it's Sucky 'cause I do want to stay but yeah I don't feel great. I feel like he's <music> out the door and even if he doesn't go out the door. I don't know if I see a way forward for him. Unless or whatever reason the six decided to turn on themselves so I'm going in a gift the three alright I'm going to go with a two for Sam dropped from the three previously I do feel he's good enough at competitions petitions. He's got enough social capital in the House that if for some reason he stayed. I don't think he's drawing dead but I think it's very unlikely he stays this week and he does have a tough road ahead of him even if he he does so. It's a two for me yeah. I'm actually shocked looking at this previous week that I didn't give them what I'm about to give him now. which is the one paddle? He deserves it. He's terrible. He's terrible for weeks on end and eventually got nowhere to run SAM. I gave to last week and you're about ready to walk out the door. So how can I give you anything other than a one again. Nice guy personally seems like he's at the end of the show but again if I did make they have everything set up or him he knew we're all very he knew what the alliance was. People or working together. You have the dream of a big brother Fan which was to to run it up from the bottom to send it from the bottom and he blew it. He just wanted to be with the So I will say this though that those were past weeks and I actually do feel like this week he has done a halfway decent job of campaigning for himself. I think it was clever of him and nick two completely separate. Even though it's largely symbolic the fact that nick isn't campaigning for him was a good strategy and he did a decent job of convincing evincing holly that she wanted to keep him in the game he ultimately lost the battle but I think he did much better than most people do in this circumstance so I wouldn't personally personally go down to a one but it is it is Brent's rights has paddle the audience. This was a close one but the audience did go with two for Sam down from the four previous week so there you go down at a two four Sam on talk about Jack Jack. Jack had straight fours last week. You can call me crazy but jack didn't have too bad of a week here and he's actually an somewhat decent position. In between the two Christie and Jackson he's souring on Christie a little bit Kristie also souring on Jack a little bit just us today she was talking to Tommy like you. Don't still think we're taking jack to the final right like that's not happening. There's no way and in granted Christie has done this in the past and then come back around on Jack and maybe when he gives her more attention again things will change once again but that's not great but in general it's not like she can do anything about it because she's still got Jackson to deal with and she's still got nick to deal with and all of these other people and so Jack has actually managed to find himself in the middle of of the dominant alliance perhaps still one of the more visible targets in terms of if somebody else happened to win and took a shot but with Christy becoming becoming more and more of a target perhaps not quite as much I dunno Brent. What do you think yeah? I'm going to make a lot of people mad. I have to tell you I mean like like I look. I think he's an asshole and I really don't care to know him and he's probably GonNa Block me on twitter. Whatever but wow he has played a really good game this week you guys <hes> He's played well? I'm shocked that he is able to keep the secrets that he's being asked to keep to himself. He doesn't needlessly stir the pot. which is what everybody hello sis what everybody does who has a secret B._B.? twenty-one houses they stir the pot. I was really really pleased. I don't know if it's Roth or it's just it's natural now the people that he obviously did Mike or out of the house he's just playing a little bit better not acting like a such a condescending asshole although we do know that that's a part of this week alone given his position in the house. I really sad that I do not buy some Jack Stock on a give him a seven. He is is running the shit out of this game from behind. I don't feel like he's in front. Even is amazing to me that a guy that looks like this. That's as charming as he is within the house. I know we all ate him but he starting in house is relatively is invisible as he is to everybody right now. Nobody talks Jack for the most part. I mean Chrissy augmenting today but that was only in the context. We're not going to take him to the end right. I mean no one's coming for him today. It's just it's it's. I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you look like that and don't think about him has a potential target but he's that's where he is right now so it's a seven seven from Brent Melissa. What are your thoughts? I think he's playing this week <hes> better than he had been playing passed so you know I'll give them that I just I I do feel like first of all this field trip than could hurt him. Second of all you know I do think that he is still seen as a threat like yeah like this week. Maybe he's kind of like faded into the woodwork but I do think that like next week. It's totally possible that he's right era on the block again. We don't know but I do feel I do feel like he's played a better game this week than he had before the previous speak so I'm gonNA give him a I. I'm going to go from four to five so five this yeah. I'm with you Melissa. I think that his position I can't is it a facade. I mean you think that I'm I'm falling for the illusion that he's safer more visible than he is. I mean Melissa makes a good point in that this week and invisible this week but next week when he could have power or be right next to power very hard for him to be invisible and he does tend to go off at the drop of a hat exactly exactly for me like if he was is cliff in this spot or Tommy in this spot. I'd be like `I faith that he's not gonNA screw this up as nearly as much as somebody like Jack might might but I feel like Jack didn't necessarily put himself here kind of found himself in a nice spot this week but he's never really <music> actively found gotten himself to a good spot and I feel like this might just be like the ebb and flow of just position wise where where he happens to be at this particular moment. If Jack continues to be in a good spot for the coming weeks I think that I will continue to increase my rating as I go oh but for me just past history and knowing who he is in my faith in him as a player. I can't go too much higher than where I was before so I'm also going to go from a four to to a five. The audience actually came close to giving Jacka five which Kudos but they went with the four excellent. I have no idea by the way do you not own any Jack Stock People in the chatter saying I own Jack Stock I am not. I'm just really impressed with them again. I I just don't know how he's so invisible and I also don't know how I'm impressed that he's able to keep a secret. He's just doesn't stir the pot when he doesn't have to or when it doesn't behoove him that that's why you think that's easy. I'm sure all on the outside and say oh I could do that. No it's really hard when you're trapped in the House people and you've got some knowledge that other people don't have it's just human nature sure. Do you want to tell them to make yourself feel better. He's not join that right now so I'm pleased to see that yes alright so jack is going to go up there. Let's talk about jess briefly. Nothing has really changed for Jess except I do think that she is starting to rise in the goat ranks. We've said before at least I've said before that just is a somebody that is her best. Chance is to be dragged to the end and nobody even plans on dragging her to the end. Now that has changed Christie is now talking about trying to bring Jess along to do the finals not the final two. She says one of the reasons why jess is great to bring because everybody loves her and so nobody would want to take her to the final two. I don't know how much that we'll stick but she now has a big power player in the house talking at least talking about it about wanting to bring her for the end. Now I know that I think it's very clear and it should be very clear to both both Christy and Tommy that this is the better option here much more. I wouldn't say completely disliked in the house but doesn't have it doesn't have the sort of like friendly vibe where if the jury is bitter. They're not exactly going to be like like well. Let's give it to likable. She's pretty hateful. Though so this is still I think above her in terms of the goat the goat list <hes> so just to last time. I can't quite go up to a three. I think our win equity still so low. I'm going to stick with my two but I do think this is potentially on the rise potentially <hes> but that's just me Melissa. What do you think I'm GonNa give her a one because she he doesn't seem to care about the game or like anything and it's really disappointing? I mean she looked. She's a nice. She's a Nice Lady. We can all agree. She's a nice lady but that doesn't mean anything when you're playing brother and if you're not even going to play then it it just it makes me upset and it makes me sad so I'm giving her. A one Brent one last time yeah yeah. I'm giving our one week. I take your point that she has risen in the goat ranks however as they point out in a chat about win equity at the end and what does she have. I think one out of ten is about her win equity at this point or less so <hes> it's a one for me all right the audience not super close but they were they were getting there. They almost got a one but it's a two from the audience so oh that's just is going to stay there at the at the two. Let's talk about Nicole now. Last week. I gave Nicole of four Brent. You were the lowest on her her with a three. So how do you feel about Nicole this week. Not Great not not goodbye. I don't feel great about the goals Dell's game. I gave her a three last week. I'M GONNA stick with three today. I don't feel like she knows when to keep her mouth. Shut stopping a little too honest to people that you shouldn't be honest to the other thing about Nicole hose that again. They've decided that for the time being going to come back together six Nick Nicole Nick wins the veto I think she's out. She could be the number of the jury and she's also like much like Jessica plane. They're scared right now. I know she's like then teens timing Christie that you know why can't you the things you do and who says who who says go out there and play your brother. What's the worst that can happen? You get evicted your brother. It's going to happen almost everybody else. You're going to get evicted anyway. You're on this path to winning. It's like Oh but this one move might mess Yup. It's like I know you're not winning so you might as well do something to be memorable. Make an impact on the Game Clare me. You're like the dual Godfrey declared enemy. I mean I duNNo. I don't know what she should do but what she's doing right. Now ain't working for me so I. I'm inclined to give her a three like I said I'm really inclined to give to arable but her warmth warmth than I feel like she does have the most important person in the house protecting her right now Kristie so I feel like you can't go that low all right Melissa Yeah. I gave her a five last week. I'm GONNA give her for the same reasons as I was kind of just interjecting into Brennan says each year. Has You know I agree with a friend instead. You know she's not doing anything and it's not one of those situations where it's like. Oh well you just don't lay low this big no fade into the background like she's fading into the background like that's not happening and people still want to get her out because she's not part of the alliance not only works when there are multiple sides feuding and you've got a bunch of people going on like literally like one alliance and you're clearly on the outside so you're easy target so yeah for I'm hoping that Taryn with jury starting potentially this coming week after Sam as presumably evicted that she will spread her wings a little bit and play like she has nothing to lose but I'm really fearful that she so snake bitten in by what happened with Nick and Bella that she doesn't do anything for the rest of the season and that would be really disheartening. Yeah you know I saw promise in Nicole. She was playing playing well. She was able to play on people's emotions and come up with good game plans. It made me have faith in her as a player. It's why I gave her a four last week when it was more like a three and I'm losing that faith in Nicole as a player I think it's still there somewhere buried down deep keep but I think that she has really she. She touched a hot stove and she does not WanNa get near it anymore because she's really really worried about what what might happen. She said to cliff yesterday that she has considered going to Jackson and holly and saying hey guys Christie's been talking to me about taking a shot at you guys I I need to tell essentially what she did with nick and Bella but she's worried and I guess rightfully so because it happened to her before but she's worried that she's the one that's GonNa take the offer that and that while it's certainly possible she's already in a position where she is taking a fall for nothing so she might as well be taking a fall or something and I do feel feel like if she went to holly and Jackson they might actually listen unlike Nikola their little smarter I think and they're already already already thinking that this might be the case and so if Nicole went there went there with them I think that they might actually be willing to reel her in and she is an appealing person to real in as a number for them so I want her to be playing just a little more aggressively especially given her position as one of the two most likely people people go home next week. I need to see more. It's not there I still. I think it's somewhere buried deep. I think if she survives the next week then she has a chance because cliff will I want to work with her as much as possible but it's tough so it's a three from me and honestly it was almost two almost two to the audience though still up with Melissa at a four for Nicole not ready to give up yet still wanted to pull through through yes so Nicole I think has just been steadily declining here as the weeks go on as she went from six to a seven to a five five to four and now a lower for we'll see how this continues on. Let's talk about who is next year. Cats still cat. I gave for five lesson. I knew at the time I was like I'm too high on cat. I know it we're we're all idiots the smart one. How bad is it though I mean let's just plain terrible but I feel like sometimes? She's not taking seriously Indus- her bad moods aren't as hurtful as they might be with somebody else because they're like oh that just cat and whatever she says whatever you know it's like so mad that I did not have faith in her for so long and then I finally was like you know what she's actually doing a all. She just volunteer for the block. The volunteering for the block thing is what's. It's really getting the I think that if it was a situation where it was like Oh holly was just like Oh. I'M GONNA have to put you up because of X._Y._Z.. Like this is GonNa happen and then catch was like okay. What am I gonNa do you? I would feel better about her but that you volunteered to be on the block is not good not good at all and there's no real good gameplay reason for it so it's not like the fact that she wants. Airtime is that worries me that that's all she's worried about yeah and it just it made no sense to volunteer for the block telling Holly About Cliffs Angels. I do feel it didn't it didn't turn into a mistake but it could have been a big mistake. She didn't need to tell Holly. Holly didn't tell cat about grateful until grateful was like already six feet under and and everybody everything and that's the problem that she couldn't even remember if she had told Christie about it and like that tells me that League's she wasn't all that concerned about keeping it from Christy. She trusts Christy. She said she said to Holly yesterday that she trusts Jack. The Jack is one of her her favorite people in the house and she really just finds herself trusting because he's been flirting with her and that's pissing off assist wants cat gone because of this whole situation. She's on the block. She was like I'm worried that this is going to make me a perpetual upon and holly was like no no no no no and then six years together and they're like so cats are perpetual upon Khan and she I feel like she knows she's doing the wrong thing and just she continues to do it and it's very it's very frustrating very frustrating and her position still fine for the most part I think she'll stay and I think she's still not a huge target. She's still bought and paid for so she's not going anywhere anytime soon. I don't think granted. She is on the block right now but just my faith in her abilities in this game are so tanked. I cannot maintain the five. I'm dropping dropping back down to a three year. Four positioning is still still good enough that it's not a two because I think that at her worst she can continue to float on pretty far and I do think she's good at competitions. I think she still has a tiny bit of win equity equity here but a man. I is hard seeing how she doesn't somehow screwed up and I can't even predict how screwed up. I just think that she will do you think I totally agree. I was going for five to three. I just you're right. I don't have faith that she you know. I felt like I could understand where she was coming coming from before where it was like I felt like laying in between on purpose but now I feel like there's no purpose to it. It's just like oh I tell you this. I'm GonNa tell you that and I'm with you and I'm with you depending on who's being nice to me or whatever and I don't think there's any long-term strategy with that so I yeah I don't have any any sprint. Oh sorry to give a score sorry. I don't feel quite as bad but I'm GONNA go down down. I was a five last week. I'm going to go down to four. I still feel like position wise. She's in a pretty good spot. I don't believe that she would be evicted this week or the next I feel like people who like her and wants to protect her and although I am very confused by some of her decision making she has sort of maneuvered into a spot game where I don't feel like I feel like she's at the point in a game where everybody has everybody is going to have bigger fish to fry than cat cat so I really don't see going home anytime soon and I do feel like she has win equity at the end of the game. I do feel like she can win a composition if she needs to so game play to in position for so you know I'm GonNa give her a four positions king to me. So it's a four all right there you go oh. It's going to be the same exact score as Nicole because the audience also went with a four they. I think it's very similar rating to last week. They didn't really move on. I don't know she's on a block. I don't know what's happening there but it's still four from the audience so Asoka is going to drop from five to four this week. Let's talk about Christie Criss interesting one another one where I was finally starting to be like all right. Kristie hasn't Mr Game last week. It was like she's really in control of the game and now once again this week things looking taking a little shakier for Christie Brent. What are your thoughts? I still feel good about Christie and I believe in her. I'm not going to lower her score. It was just kind of contemplating. If if I felt like I could justify increasing her scored because ultimately she's playing a good week of big brother. She's getting what she wants. Out of big brother. She's protected the people that she needs to protect. She still has her power and who knows what the future looks like. I still am very taken with the idea of somebody who was Tommy who's a superfan of the game being passive passenger to this strong woman who is leading from the front balls out and just not afraid to play not afraid to put her foot down. I enjoy her very much. She can annoy me. She says she says problematic things early on the season and I'm not excusing any of that but the Christie that I see over the past week and a half is somebody that I just really we love to watch the fees. She's a mess. She's air annoyed in all the best ways so I'm GonNa keep her at a six I can't. I don't feel like I can go but show me somebody else. Who's playing this well from the front? She's completely visible and yet I feel like I still don't feel like she'll go home. I really don't I know the Jackson Hollier talking about taking a shot at her but I feel like Christy and Tommy will win that battle and when they do Kristie is going to have the run of the house so I leaving her. Yeah I mean look at least Christie's giving us fun. I feel like out of all of that six shooter alliance. She's one of the few people who's giving us you know on entertainment because she is kind of wild and crazy with her schemes and everything I mean she is kind of out there. The guts you manifest yes and I just I you know she someone who I'm interested to watch on like everybody else now Lyon so I you know I gotta gotTa give her props for being able to do that and also like we all thought that I mean usually someone like Christie flames out really quick like you know <unk> very emotional. She cries she does this. She goes out there. She tells people things and usually those types of people it out really early and then we're like no we miss you but she's still in. It and people still really trust her. People always talk about how much they trust us. I do feel pretty good about her. I'm going to you you know as much as the the one thing that I'm a little concerned about is now I do feel like people are like well. We should take a shot at her. They are talking about her in that way whereas previously they weren't so. I don't necessarily know if you'll like a seven or a six for her but I do. I I am more confidence in her than I do with Jackson or holly or Jacker any of those other people so I do think are in commie would really pull something off your on any if it did like like rent was saying come to a head to head battle within the <unk> reliance. I think her and Tommy would run circles around everyone else so you know I'm I'm just going to stick with my seven I'm going to do it and I do also want to point out that it's interesting to note that like up until this point everyone I saw a score fiber lower. It's not great not great for the season I think part of it for me. At least east is that it feels like for me a slight slight spoiler but I feel like Tommy is a very clear front runner and and then behind Tommy are a bunch of people who like I have no idea like it could play out in any way and any of those other people in the six. I have a decent shot shot at at taking it somewhere depending on where they are in that particular moment so right now I feel like Holly Jackson her down at the bottom and Nick Eh Jack and insists are positioned in a nice spot Christie for me. I she is losing the faith of of a lot of her allies. Sis just today was expressing doubt in Christie now. That's that's this. She'll probably be back with Christie later but Jack Jack is also expressing doubt in Christie. Luckily for Christie her connection to Tommy is good and Jack expressed those doubts to Tommy and so Tommy can help smooth that over thing Tommy remains Christie's biggest asset remaining in the house even though she is losing all of her connections <hes> cliff and Nicole talking about Christie being dangerous in the house nick is loyal. Certainly I think to Tommy but <hes> but I do not think he would trust Christie as much as he is trying to suck up to her so I think that all of these things are are bad because you also of course have <hes> you know holly and Jackson starting to talk about targeting Christie you have cat talking about Kristie as a big threat somebody that everybody runs to in the game and that she controls a lot of things that's most of the house talking about Kristie as a target but again her position is good and on largely because of Tommy's connections here that I do you think will help her and Tommy is also a big force in keeping the six together and preventing them from taking the shot that they might want to take at Christie's so because of that I do feel like she maintains the position that she's in right now but she is balancing on a nice edge she is she is about to fall issues. She is not careful and I think that that could be very very dangerous one four her. I'm tempted to give her a five but I do. I'm going to stick with my six. Just I feel feel like she's got at least one more week in her where she could turn things back around and and get things going again in the right direction but but this is a dangerous spot for her and I could easily easily see this go down as early as next week so six from me and the audience very close vote actually went up from their five to six Christie. I went down the audience went up. What are you going to do? She's phone. I saw so many of the chat say ah she's Beta Test Vanessa. I think it was Eddie. Perez said that I like that comparison. She's much more of an Amanda personally. Yeah I can say back yeah all right very fun on their seasons though yes. Let's let's talk. Let's Talk Tommy now. I've already sort of expressed my feelings on Tommy. I feel again last week. I lost just a little bit of faith in him. I feel like I've gained a little bit of it back. I feel like he's doing a very good job. Socially the way that he's really nicotine is very big because there's a war brewing between Christie and Jackson and with Nick on their side. That's very good. He is the only one to correctly point out. Hey this cliff guy is good. He's he's a threat and there's no way he's dumb enough to stay true to this deal if he wins H._O._A.. Jr and he's he's starting to push that onto the six he also clocking cat pat as somebody that they can't rely on close to holly and his connections again to Jack is whole his connection to Jack is holding the six in place in one in regard is connection to nick bringing a numbers on the other side and he is not a target even when even if they target Christie it will not likely be Tommy that that even potentially goes on the block next to her it might be Christie and Jack and even if Tommy did go on the block. I think it's very unlikely he would ever go home in any circumstance. I think he's also also probably immune from this this field trip thing. I think that the edit that he has gotten on television is not enough that he would be voted in as one of the least favorite three I think the people in the live feeds would probably choose Christie Jack and Jackson and I think the television audience would do the the same so I think he's probably immune from immune from that as well. It doesn't need to worry about that so all that to say not quite at nine again. I still don't know if I'll ever have that much faith in Tommy but I'm sticking working with my eight and it's a bit stronger than it was before Melissa. What do you think yeah I agree with everything you said? Neuro assessments everything. I'm going to stick with my age because you know I yeah you're right. I don't know if they say he's a nine layer but you know it's possible once the sixers turn on each each other that maybe we will start to see that I mean right now. He does seem to be laying low because really he hasn't needed to do anything so you know maybe once he actually turns it on. We might be able to use them for him but right now. He's doing all he needs to do just need. I exactly where these all right Brent. You were the lowest of us on Tommy last week where you this week. I feel moderately good about Tommy heading into this week as opposed to last week my my only question is whether I wanNA bump him up from a seven to an eight I realized that both of you guys are at ace and I do feel like he's the front runner in the house but it is by knows does it is not a lot I feel like Jack are neck and neck spoiler alert for those who don't watch the live feeds. I'm talking to you just a graph from Eve nineteen who tweeted this out. Jack would actually be almost everybody in the house if he was in the final two he famously tweeted out that jess was the only person that Jack could beat beat if he was in the final two. I actually don't believe that I think Jack is is a plane a really good game as I said with my score and I feel like he could beat most of the people in the house sitting in the final two you likewise with Tommy. He's a good game in that is irritating the living shit out of me by telling Chrissy at it's too soon but I do feel like for him. That's better move to keep everything is solid and as calm as possible that works to his advantage. When you're somebody like that he must be tempting to want to make the big move again? I still don't understand why he didn't stop the whole line side of nick and Bella when they didn't have to so that led me lose faith in him but this week I'm I'm watching him. Tell Christy that is soon to make a move against Mickey. We really really shouldn't be doing that. Maybe one more week one more week. It'd be dealer weights. I'm going to stick with the seven but it's a higher for seven to me than the one I gave Jack on right. The audience has has been consistently dropping on Tommy. They started an eight. They went down to a seven seven seven and they drop down to a six last week. We're seeing for the first time a slight reversal. They are backed up to their seven in barely barely cleared cleared that seven but but the audience I think refining a little bit of faith in Tommy perhaps but seven from the audience so Tommy is going to you go back up to his eight. They're also the person who was most clocking. Tommy which was saying is going to go home this week. So that's why another reason yes. He got. He got his way this week. It was perfect for him again. His relationship with Nick is very very strong. He's in the he's investigation. Lots and lots of reasons lots of all right. Let's talk about sis sis all right this Melissa. What do you think this week because you famously gave her a one two weeks ago you gave her to this past ass week? Is there any part of you feels better about her game this week. I think this might be the most extreme rating we've ever gotten from Melissa consistently yeah yeah that's true and I still feel the same way so I don't feel any different about her than I did last week so I'm still going to stick with my two yeah. I'm actually going to go down on a little bit. This week insists. I gave her a four last week. I feel like she's been found out. She's playing a little too hard. I think that people on both sides realize that she's playing a little bit too hard. She's also a little bitchy she <hes> I'm actually starting to question and this you guys GonNa think this twenty. I'm I'm starting to question sisters win equity on look look. I always thought there was a potential way a young woman such as herself it went a comparable comps at the end and get herself to the end in a position sort out of Jordan S. even though she's not as sweet but the house likes her enough but she's really gone a little bitchy lately and not only that she's been shown to be to face so. I don't think she was playing as well this week as she was last week. Which is what I'm going to give her a three in as we said talking about with Jessica even though that I feel like her longevity and the game is well oh I don't feel like I have any faith in her winning but he likewise was since I have no faith and her win equity? Maybe only above Jessica so yeah yes I. I'm with you guys or at least Brent and <hes> I think that she was she was perfectly positioned to be everybody's and and game person that they brought even all the way to the final two and she was just inoffensive enough that she could win against a better player with a bitter jury or something along those lines position wise that has that has been failing. She we have Christie see now talking about jess as a great option to bring to the end. We have holly very angry with SIS not enjoying says his presence Scott caught running to holly running the Christie not not in with Jackson and holly in the way that she was before and people are starting to get annoyed with her. She's talking a a lot of crap about hat and Holly's mentioned that she's angry person. She's really starting to look like not even a great palatable option a as as a potential bitter jury option so that said she's still in a great spot for the most part and she's still a perfect person to bring toward the end and she's not quite at a two yet for me. It's going to be a three. I think that she can bounce back. I think that she has been such a good position for so long that that she might bounce back but for the most part this was a big hit to her game anyway before you reveal the audiences score Matt's HCT Roszke risky and the Chad says this is final speech has really great train wreck potential since she doesn't know what nouns verbs and adjectives I just want to what what was I gonNa say I forgot hold on. I was also living for your Saturday podcast Liana where she called her philosophy professor sis which image of of her in like a coats in in a classroom Robak like images of young adult straight movies to me or something like that it was very very high. I thought of that the teacher would last night. He like whatever for me this is a close second to jess in terms of like just frustration and listening to her talk game because because she never remembers the conversations that she's relaying to other people because what was it you said something like man and and she's constantly trash on people feel her final speech would be like like a cat would would come up and be like so what about this trip that you want me excluded from and she'd be like sorry I just. I just don't do girl code so it's just a mess. It's a mess the audience the audience has gone back down the audience has been wavering on this all season long fours threes back down to a three. She took a hit this week from the audience as well so let's talk cliff interesting one here Brent and I were low on cliff at three last last week. I think things are looking up from last week. This is Brent mentioned probably the best case scenario or at least close to it for for this move from from cliff so Brenda. I want to start with you. Where are you on cliff this week in comparison to your three last week I am going to go to a five or cliff? I gave him three last week. I feel better about his half Imma game than I did last week by a consider a little bit I could've gone from three or four but I feel like it's warranted to go to a five because I feel like he's average placement position wise in the House House considering how also the sixers right now and how much he's loved even though he took a direct shot at them by all six people in that alliance maybe hey Tommy would be the exception but everybody else seems to love clip and they want to include him in their plans and I have faith in his ability to execute a plan Dan he has decided that this is going to be as horse and he's GonNa write it and it's the girl that brought into the dance and so he's okay with it so he's GonNa play this. You know my word is gold. If I give you my word Blah Blah Blah blah blah blah blah the cows come home and so he doesn't need to say it anymore and I think it's working something that I would have gone with but I'm pleased to see the the path that he selected is apparently working out. He just has to hope that Tommy doesn't keep the six together long enough for clip up to be evicted a second time that would be his one real problem here but I feel like that's built spore with five because it's on a positive or negative score. It's a neutral score. A high neutral or an echo observes right now all right Melissa. You were the highest on cliff last week. Where are you this week? Yeah I mean I still feel the same about cliff this week as I did last week I mean we kind of pictured that his move might and the same way and that it has and you know it has been good for him but at the same time you know obviously it's not flashy. Exciting Fund knew that we ought also four but you know he's okay right now. He's an okay position right now because he's not the next target. There are a couple of people in front of him but you know I mean is that great to just like not the next target and that's really like the best we can say about your game like well not really but you know there are people who are hoping to possibly use him released talking about it so I guess that's good but overall i. I don't see like a super easy awesome path for him. I think that it's going to be pretty tricky for him Last week so I'm gonNA stick with five. Yes all right so I am actually the audience is going to give a five as well up from their force that is going to leave. Leave me as the lowest on cliff this week because I'm going to give him a four which is on the person advocating for his move but I feel like he is the person I probably have the most amount of faith in maybe maybe Christie or Tommy in in terms of just his ability to see the the house clearly to have a game plan to know what he needs to do. He is describing it to Nicole in detail will he correctly predicted this crack between Christie and Jackson. He is helping facilitate it in some small way. He is in on both sides side season a prime position to to be able to survive until these split happens in a great position to pounce on whatever he needs to pounce on when the split happens of course so I have a lot of faith in him and I think that he's in as good a position as he can be at the moment but it's still a long road still a lot of things that need to happen and a lot of him not screwing up and a lot of him not getting really unlucky because something slips lips or somebody over here some more cat spill something she shouldn't and so I cannot I cannot go up to a much higher place until those those steps happen and he gets to his destination at the at the stops that he's going to get so for me. It's a four right now. If next week's things are still looking good then <hes> help probably go up to a five if things continue to look good he'll go up to a six if things crack open and he's all of a sudden in prime position that's when he'll jump up but until well then it's it's a slow road to slow road for me so I will say that. The Chad doesn't seem to be buying the fact that cliff is in it for the long haul doom sane at the crack that ultimately meant nothing because he he feels like he she never figured out of doom as a he or she the crack crackers solidifying this week and the person below. Them said that he doesn't feel any further than seven so I I feel like I take issue with that because if the six does crack open which I do feel like it will. It's just a matter of is going to be this coming week or the week beyond that then. If you'll clip is well positioned to take advantage of that I also disagree with the person the chat sorry. I can't remember your name who said that you don't feel like clip can do better than fourth or fifth in fact I really disagree with that. I feel like clips more likely to finish in like seventh or eighth place than he is the finishing fourth or fifth place because I feel like the closer clip it's the end the more likely he's going to be able to win a competition when they get a little bit more mental so I have faith in his ability to win and his win equity at the end if he gets there is astronomical astronomical so I like lifts trajectory assuming the house plays out as we are hoping it does but as I said I've been fooled so many times the twenty Newburgh big brother can't seven where we bought the big land. It's going to break open. They never did big brother nineteen so here's hoping cliff I will say I will say this. Though in big brother twenty in big brother candidates seven there were there were rogue elements of the Alliance who were like. We're going to take a shot when we have the opportunity trinity that Opportunity Never really presented itself in any meaningful way either of those seasons in this season with the six shooters. There's not a one of them that plans to go to the six with all six in fact. All of them are saying that would be stupid. There's no way in hell we're doing this. They're saying this privately leader saying this to their closest allies. They're even saying it to people they shouldn't be saying to they have zero plans of going all the way to the six so I have no concern that it's GonNa be like Oh all of a sudden it's cliff and the six and all of the six are going to stay true to themselves and take out cliff. I think goes out a different way than that much different way than I agree yeah. I I agree with that as well yeah. That's the big telltale point during be whether twenty points out big really can't seventy had multiple people all trying to keep this big alliance science together who all felt it was in their best interest all felt vested in that big alliance or even took part in naming it or conceding it. None of these people who are currently in the in the six six wants to go to the end with six there no one. I don't even envision a scenario when that happens. It's basically who's GonNa win. Who's going to get the first strike and I think it's probably going to be Christine issued? Yes I agree right. I really hope you guys. I think cliffs biggest danger is that a stray shot hits him before or the alliance splits up like for instance Nick Wins and actually does for some reason chicken out and put up somebody like cliff that would be bad for Kim but beyond that I think he'll be able to survive at least one more week I do feel like cracks are forming. I think his most vulnerable point is after next week. If if the shot isn't taken the following week when it's him versus Nicole or him versus nick potentially in terms of like looking at who they're going to send home at that that point that might go you know what cliff is a bigger threat if they're still not willing to take the shot that's when I think he's most endanger however I do think like I said that by then they are going to be looking to take a shot and I think they want to use cliff to do it but he couldn't get unlucky and the wrong person. Could we nature wage that is just not willing to take the shot or whatever it is and he might be an acceptable casualty at that point. I think that's his most damning would be terrible for him. Yes yes exactly something like that would be terrible so oh. That's that's where I feel like. He's most endangered if he gets past that point I think he's he's kind of in the clear for a little while and and that's when I have faith in his ability to maneuver his way toward some some kind of end game all right. Let's finish your on Nick Nick last week we each gave Nick twos and then the audience gave nick a re and I'm still I'm still a little torn nick so I'm not exactly sure where I WANNA go here. I did not like his chances chances heading into this week and he very nearly went home. He managed to win the veto and now I feel like there is a future for him but again he Easter survive another week where he's one of the main targets and that's where I feel like that's rough for him and then and then I think about like okay. Let's say Nick. Manages drift survived next week. Let's say they they they take out. Nicole instead Christie doesn't get her way for the first time and the Knicks days now now now what I don't have faith nick in the same way that I have faith in cliff he has failed me constantly and I don't even have faith in Nick in this in how much I have faith in Col- where at least previously Nicole did something right and now she's just kind of scared and maybe they'll come out again. Nick has always failed every time and he's always been been bad and he's always disappointed in me and so I don't have faith that he's able to capable of doing much to progress himself further in the game even if he does survive for me too for Nick it might it might go up if he survives it might maybe there's a path for him but I just don't see it right now and so for me. It's a two Melissa I mean I'm touring on them as well because you know I I always get taken by a way that he he talks and the things that he says and I'm always like yeah. Nick knows what's up. He's going to do the right thing if he if you can just get some power he'll do the right thing and that's what I keep thinking within you know. I hear you say that and I realize like Oh yeah you're right. He's never done the right thing. When it actually comes to it like you can say all? He wants the right things within when it comes to him. I'm actually making the move like has he ever done that has not ever not disappointed us. We however I think many negatives but has he he always disappointed and that's you know that's where I'm a little bit torn because he has he says the right things and he tricks me. I don't know but you know L.. <unk> I'm glad he won the veto and you know. I'm glad that it wasn't just an easy week. Were okay next goes at the door right after ballot so you know I think he's in a fight and I think he's GonNa try to win this H H. I really hope you wins it so I'm going to give him a three all right I will say this to. I felt much better about out nick yesterday because it looked like the cracks. Were going to happen before next week but then today the sixers had that meeting and they talked about nick is one of the primary targets and Christie in particular really early fall for Nick to go home and that's that's really I was at a three but the bridge drew me back to it too because Oh man it's just I still feel like it could happen but I have a lot less faith in that it will next week and then I did before so what do you think yeah by the way you Alexandra puts these generally in the order that the most stock that was Baud so obviously a lot of people bought knits plaster. I did not know that that for so long just picked a random order so it was like okay well whatever we were GonNa talk about this week. We want to talk about full disclosure. No I just want to put my cards on the table. I asked her. I said you know it may be a good idea. Just for the purposes of our podcast to night is the guiding principle to have the most controversial people or toward the Anna and say happy end but more toward this or for those of you and the people that have the most impact on the on the stock market so I thought I was going to like go back and look at the previous. Ones don't have asking like the last couple of weeks. She's been doing it so I do know having talked with her that a lot of people bought nick stock and the reason they bought an as he was so low that these idiots that's. That's you all out there. Don't understand the way the new stock market works because Nick was already in the negatives Eve's in he was in negative spores. The red scores the threes twos in the ones and and unless he got out of which he ain't GonNa do spoiler alert. He's going to get hit with the penalty so it's really really hard see him going up here. I'm going to give him a three because I do feel relatively good about his overall social game with the people that are in power. That's Christine Tommy in Jack in the house like I feel like he you can get in with them. He can get back in with them but if the six play out as they're saying right now which is having I'm having trouble figuring out what I believe because because yeah they were all in the room together when they said this but like they're never gonNa tell each other yeah. We're targeting you. So what are they really saying in the diary room. What are they saying behind closed doors? They were all all called into the diagram apparently one by one and then there was every time it was talked about on the they've walked that conversation so I don't know what the diarrhea ask them six shooters. I'm talking about but I have faith the Knicks game because he did a couple of things right this week obviously WanNa veto but beyond ninety sucking up to the people who matter Racine Tommy and he's distanced since Alfred Sam he's not going to cast a rogue vote or losing vote in hopes of trying to save Sammy's GonNa victim with the rest of the house presumably and I have more more faith in him but please don't disappoint me again nick. It's a three okay. The audience is with you guys with a three Ah. I wish I had faith in Nick. I do I want him. Here's the thing even if he is lying to Tommy and Christie and like he's he's going to have them in the back. It's like that doesn't really get very far because then he just goes home right after probably but at least then you'd be doing something fun. I don't know I think I think probably his best chance is again. He managed survive next week but we know that Tommy does not plan on winning. The next Rhino that Christie probably won't we also know that Christie has power that if you and the person that she wants to go home next week is nick so if she feels like she's betrayed and she wants me gone I if you like. She can do something to make that happen if she really wants to. I just feel like there are a lot of things working against nick. I think he might need to win another veto next week but if he does maybe that's maybe that's when movie made who knows and lives yeah and then if he survives next week then I think he is able to be reeled in by Tommy and Tommy is GonNa start trying to win competitions or so he says at that point and that's when I feel like he can he can blend back in and maybe have a chance to be dragged over to the end and maybe there is a chance that he is able to win. If you use goes all the way to the final two somehow because it's like Oh. How did you get there? What did he do but it's a it's a long hard road there so I gave him a three but it's a close score? I was very close to the two had trouble deciding basically leaning more towards the three because I appreciate the fact that he won the beano and I appreciate the fact that he's made the correct moves that it only someone like Kim can make this week I mean he has nowhere to run. He was just nominated targeted. I mean he really does have to suck up to people try to make them forget. Hey a yeah I'm really not mad at you really fine like lay dead and he's done all that so. What else can you do? At this point. I guess when H H I guess yeah so so we will see some movement up to a three four nick which I think that's that's mostly appropriate but it's still looking good price. I don't think I think I think he stays the same stays. The same thing I have to Alexander always puts. That'd be a prices at the end because these are the ratings are not the prices I tommy was like above ten for a while so I'm interested to see what what it's like. I can't remember the Formula Formula Nick is he's GonNa stay the same one dollar. Is that a dollar yeah. He got hit with a penalty and ends. He went his his his increase from last week to this week gives him a multiplier and it wasn't worth much because it's only a two to three again and this season were really punishing. The people who live in that one-two-three area last few seasons that was how all of us made our money by buying Kira when they were at like to up to three as if that was really worth anything and we all made boo boo bucks out of it because we were all going all in this this year we're not having that really needs to get out of the negative scores my negative the bats whereas one-two-three it really needs to get out of the bats or so they can stop it was a penalty and if he can at least get up to a four that's yes and the idea behind that is that like he needs to make a meaningful jump. You're not just like a slight little hop back. If Nick is all of a sudden in a in a decent spot then that's where you pay off. I think I've said this before four. I said it in the chat but Alexander informed me that Christina Z had a lot to do with this and uterine. I love this new setup. I'm not winning the new setup the stock stock market but I do love the fact that every week I feel like I have a decision about what it wants to do and I can't just look to see well. WHO's rated the lowest and do they have a shot move up just a little bit? I mean everything you really have to take into consideration the people because like in the past but never bought someone like Tommy because he was he was like Dane. I always around the eight nine seven area but now there's reasons why somebody like Tommy. You and I wish I I wish I had because I didn't I bought Holly and she went down from seventy five's lives. I get hit but Tara how you doing this week. I'm doing well. I still not still on I. There's still two people had to me but I have passed beasts I happen. I Tommy the somebody the Blue Tortoise ahead of me bought Jack and Alaska may bought some cliff and they both also increased so that was instant results right here Alexander on it out now. Now it's amazing. I don't understand this is like wild to me that Kirsten now now in the second place in the podcast or second place on Tommy. I'm still scrolling. Wow you fell. I seventy first place third overall in the podcasters hauling. It holly went down. I bet on Holly I talked with Tony. Scott is in the patron. I grew up. I was really down Holly Winning Joe Age. I said I really felt like it was going to be easy week. Remember like I said because you too obvious nominees she could just put them up and invaded back into the background didn't do that so there's Melissa there at one thirty six tame. Can you summarize what you did there scroll down. I can't see it on the thing yeah there we go okay. I don't know what I'm doing. I own the house. I don't know money manager Corey help you. You're still ahead of ROB. My got it going to get that. Are that just came out I need to I need to get rid of my Nicole stock. I think I guess all right so that's what we have going on there. Let's get back to let's finish up these these extra questions and start to wrap this. It's all up here. So how would you rate the episodes of big brother this week. We got a four point four pretty consistent. It's higher than it was in the earlier weeks. It's still a little bit low though right around average I guess close there. How would you rate the feeds four point three? Excuse me the whole three point five so this is a whole is on the rise slowly but still very low people are still not pleased with what's what's happening overall in the season not surprising favorite to your least favorite player we still have Nicole up in front followed by cliff and then cats hat in third place and then Sam and then Tommy actually down at the bottom. You Got Jackson Jack he had sis jess. Not Surprising where's Kirsty Christie is just above jess actually curse complimented her. I love this is above jess fifth last than people don't like her so much I don't I feel like she's giving us at least some entertainment controversial reversal but there there's so many other problematic household rising. It's like I feel like we can all all agree that like Jackson's just like generally bad like we all just all bad like he's not a nice person and he's not really giving us anything fun these giving US fast. He's cheating his all this stuff like it's just like there's so much with him but is like I mean sure there was like there's some obviously problematic stuff whatever or she's part of the six years we already don't like that. I mean everybody. She's at least giving us some entertainment and feeling she's at least not like I mean she's not nearly as bad as most of the people in the house and I just feel like I don't see why we're not into her. I don't know I like her. I mean it. Is that a controversial statement. I don't think I can I can tell you that I'm looking at the statistics here. She was the most polarizing player of the <hes> of the House with the largest amount of deviation in low ranking tied rankings followed followed closely by Tommy. I don't understand it. I feel like I look. I feel like we can all be upset by the fact that you know and with Tommy it's I'll be upset with the fact that he didn't stand up for what what was right and he didn't he kind of encouraged sort of weird thing with this whole I oh I'm doing a moderator or mediator. Nominal <unk> any did a bad job and we can all agree with with apple. I feel like it's like I mean come on like we gotta pick the best of the worst at this point because we're gonNA end up with six shooter final six six and or whatever I know we were just talking about Oh. There's like a passport but like let's talk worse case scenario here. We have a six shooter final six literally WanNa win obviously flee. We want Tommy and Christie to win because these guys are the only people who've been really really playing and I mean they've been playing smart. I end they'd be giving us drama and I feel like I out of all these people you. You want assist win. Is that what you want Happier GonNa get unless we get a Christy and Tommy win so you know I don't know I just feel like doc when we have to start picking the best to the worst at this point and that's what we're doing and you know whatever I don't. I like Christian Army. I am willing if credit is doing. They've been playing a good game so I'm gonNA give it yeah. I think that's part of it. I think there are some people that respect the game and they really we like them. Some people like them as characters and other people don't like them as characters and I feel like that's why they are so polarizing. Although ultimately Tommy I think more palatable than Christie ultimately intimately he's going to be a few spots higher than her above holly and Nick as well so there you go Kristie polarizing character as was Vanessa End Amanda before her. I think so I asked who's the best person for holly to have targeted this week four game people overwhelmingly overwhelmingly said Christie they she should have targeted Christie. I can't say that I overly disagree. Nick was in second place which Gosh I feel like that was if she was going to take out somebody not Christie then nick would have been the shot but obviously he won veto. So what are you gonNA do. I said if the field trip twist is something bad for the people that are voted in which three are you voting for very clear answer here Jack Jack Jackson and Christy okay hundred percent say that maybe instead of Christie we should do jets like I with view. We're all with you but it ain't gonNA happen. That's that's these twists should be for right to just squeeze out somebody. That's going to be boring like I if we're GONNA. I agree like okay so imagine a scenario where three people I know we're talking about this again and I know like whatever I get worked up but like did you try and explain this scenario. Okay imagine a scenario where yeah I know we're. We don't all the details yet but imagine a scenario where we have re people a go on this field trip at one of those people doesn't come back to the house okay so we end up sending Jack Jackson and Christy 'cause we're like yeah. We're going to punish them. Let's get rid in one of these guys and then we come back in and Christie's gone and now we just have Jack and Jackson and cysts and holly and then they. I don't think Tommy and Christie like obviously Christie's not so. I don't think Tommy necessarily stands a chance. I think that then we get you know untold you'd be fine in that scenario. We get a situation where there is a much better chance where we have a sis- polly Jackson Jack Final four sort of thing in the end up going to the end so I think I think there is a better measure this other scenario where he's we still have to contend with getting one week wasted getting jess out. We have one week with this personalities just and we have just like a nightmare scenario so if instead we get rid of Jackley put on the bus field trip we put Jackson Jack Unjust okay best best case scenario. Is We get rid of Jackson or we get rid of Jack or whatever but you know worst case scenario we get rid adjusts and is that really a worst case scenario like then we just kind of our local cable than the Swiss doesn't really play out the <unk>. Maybe possibly Jackson Jack recognized that they're not liked and maybe maybe maybe not only that but someone the first year Tommy you're someone who's very interested in their image than is like well. We can't work with those guys. They were just tried to like America doesn't want them even in the house so you know I just think there's a better scenario here than in having Jackson and Jack Humpback in Chris too I mean I do too like the more I thought about it the more on board with something like Jessen. Tommy and I think a good way to fix it would be you know who do you want to send on a I don't know who do you want to save and because says I feel like in that instance and the people who are the wallpaper always end up at the bottom because we don't know who the hell they are like. People who are Jessica insist they're always going to end up at the bottom because no one cares about them. Positively Zedillo or negatively. You're going to get the votes in any save scenario. Even as many people as hey jack he would earn enough votes in a safe scenario. It's not end up in the bottom two and whoever is in the bottom two. They're gonNA stick. I would be fine with these trending as honestly I did. I was thinking about that. I think the issue run into there is that it gives the producers a lot of control in terms of who they're giving an edit to and who they're leaving on the table and sometimes we are like hey. Why aren't you showing this person? They're doing such a great job there so they should be shown on the show and then they're not and then if that person gets in trouble because something autozone all right so Jack Jackson Christie though very much leading the polls here. It's not even close this person. Ah Yeah if the field trip is something good for the people that are voted in. which three are you voting for? I asked this one as well Nicole up at the top followed by cliff now in the favorite player rankings we saw Cat Sam and Tommy as the next three and but in this whole for who would you want to see something good happen to nick actually was in the third spot by a hair above above cat who was by eight votes above Sam's it was a very tight race between nick cat and SAMBA. Sam's leaving so I would imagine that those Sam I am votes would probably go to nick I think I think that we could see nick. Nick wasn't somebody that I really considered in. If it was a good thing because cat is so present on the show I would imagine cowed voted in honestly I feel like show viewers. It might actually be like Nicole or nick like I feel like cat and cliff are the two more visible people and Nicole. She had a big moment a few weeks ago hasn't really been on the show as much lately so the only thing though so as I do think that people still associate nick with Bella and I know that casual viewers were like hating Bella so I could see a situation where it's like. You know what we don't WanNa reward nick because he he was mean to Nicole with Bella so I think that while ago though yeah it was a while ago but they do think that the casual viewers are still very much a fan of new ones I yes did you see that conversation with <hes> <hes> Nicole when he was talking about like what he did or how he got screwed over and Nicole was like I told you so she basically read the riot act like how I I wasn't wrong. I told you and then like some people were wondering Jessica received seventy seven seven votes seventy seven people would put just in the good thing about the bad thing if it was a bad thing one hundred and thirty one choose actually just below Tommy. You know I'm just saying that's you know depending on if it's a bad thing that might be where my vote lies is adjust right. I asked in anticipation of the field trip twist. How are you feeling about its potential impacts? We got a forty forty three out of one hundred so people are around the middle a little bit skeptical but hope they're hoping that it's good I think is the answer there. I also also last week a week removed. How ask these questions again the statistics much more in favor of cliffs move this week than they were her last week last week? They were pretty pretty low in the thirties and the sixties respectively this time <music>. I'm really in the middle here in the forty s right around the middle like they're not sure either way. Maybe maybe it's a good thing maybe it's a bad thing. You're not really sure even more people I'll say no cliff was not an idiot for making a deal to dwell on that too much just interesting interested in the change there I asked which side of the Jackson Christie divide are you rooting for. I'm very curious to hear from you guys and I'm not going to give you the out that I gave the audience which side of Jackson and Christy are you gonNa root for given how you talk about Christie before my guess Christie Criss Jackson so hated by the way just let me stop you from your questions which lovely but I wanted to bring up because this didn't have we didn't really talk about this on on on on the show last week because his have not week was really just beginning. It and I haven't been on the show since this. This is a static it. Is that Dick that the producers have an false enforce their own rules you have somebody like big really Canada who I think Rachelle at one point eight like a gummy bear on accident from the basket and they sent the whole house on as have not or like I was twenty four hours was ornate hours. I forget how long it was but it was so hilarious wash allergenic about it and believe it and they have this asshole going in the showers stealing food food underneath this putting food underneath the string and they know what's going on. They talked about in the room and then to have him come out this lead when he's a have have ends. We want you don't want to she because then you might get a penalty nomination when he ate left right and center last week I mean there are so many people in history but rather other houseguests who endured being have not jen city famously to be a have not for the rest of the frigging season eating slop the rest of the frequencies on until the day she was a victim and Julie Chen gave her a peanut butter and Jelly Sandwich right there at the final five eviction because he was so flipping hungry the for that for them to literally make everybody else do it and not seemingly care what Jackson does and then to reward him with all of his food of all of his dreams this week man sorry buck you producers fuck off and I speak for all the fans when I say that okay. I don't care that much but I do. I know yeah I agree. I don't like it. I don't like it but I'm not going to to enforce the rules. Sometimes they need to enforce the rules all the time like that's the thing they need to apply the rules across the board and if it was a situation where it was like oh well you know then really care about how some people do it. Some people go John Yelling if they don't like follow the rules and then okay like who cares a high he aided the it doesn't matter then that's fine but in the past they have roles and that's the problem is that they're applying. It was just like we feel like there are worse things that they do my few for Darren Darren say he said he spoke for all fans and I just wanted to point out. I don't like it stands minus one Taryn ask Karen all right on that island fine so finally who do you WanNa be evicted. This week I asked and the audience was actually very split between Sam and cat about fifty five percent said they want to see cat evicted addicted this week and a forty five percent said Sam so most people most people want Sam. Stay Yeah I see I I am actually cares. I think Sam actually cares about the game and I think SAM is. I think SAM is smart. I think there has been times when Sam has not taught us what he knows and applied correctly but I do think that Sam is smart anything. That cat doesn't care and that is my biggest problem. Is I want someone the House that cares. I don't want someone who doesn't really care about winning. Who's just emperor airtime? Whatever because honestly have airtime that's enough? We dog conspiracy theory thing saying you know whatever I think. She's funny got it. We get it. That's your shit and I WANNA see look. I know Sam as his his own dire. He's he's got his own yelling. Whatever but I do think he wants to play the game and I do think he wants to win so I want to have sick people in China all tearing a he he doesn't care about the have now? I don't like it I he should be punished. I agree I completely agree just in contrast to Brent. It's not quite as extreme all right Geez all right so that's what we have for you anything else that we want to bring up before we wrap this up of course let me know in the chat. If you have any ideas for a Hashtag and we'll we'll get this wrapped up any thoughts any final thoughts Nah. I'm having a good time. I am really grading on me that these are the people that were left with <hes> but I think the people who are there are some redeeming people who are left left. I feel like even though he did take part in the authorization of Nicole. Tommy is interesting to watch. Christie is of a can be a polarizing figure but but she's interesting to watch. I have faith in Holly's abilities in the house cliff. I believe in as well there are a lot of people who could could earn the win here and I'm excited to see that happen on the other hand. There are some other people who might back into a win and obviously we don't want that people also correctly pointed out. I forgot to say the results of the Jackson or Christie Divide. I gave the third option which was don't even try to make me say I'm rooting for either. Side in most people chose that option about fifty percent of people but thirty seven percent said and Christine there rooting for Christy side by the way I do take issue of what you said earlier about the people in the six shooters. If it's going to be a sixty two we want Christy and Tommy to win. I mean I guess but like Dimarco signing with what happened at the beginning of the season where the cast to people who know each other. We really want that to be the result of this season Jackson connection to Ali so I know maybe can win on girl cliff Nicole final to and that's what we have for you. Thank you so much for tuning in today on the roundtable we will be back back next week to continue to update these ratings and keep you updated on everything happening in the big brother twenty-one house on those live feeds. I believe I saw let's see some hashtags here Hashtag contempt of court. I like that one. They told me to get back here. When I I went to go get some hot water? I'd be held in contempt of court Masa. Yes we know who we have on the show Wednesday or we are. We are not sure at this point so ED wheeler will announce it in the future probably okay. I'll be there Thursday sauce. Yes all right. Thank you everyone for joining us. You can find me on twitter twitter at Armstrong Tire and you can find me on twitch twitch dot TV slash tearing Armstrong added Goliath. Today we had a little fun with the veto ceremony ceremony aftermath of which there was very little but we still talk through some things you can find Melissa on twitter at its Melissa with three as and Brent is at its one of it's one lucky guy that's great. I got your twitter name right now. It's one day with three as I liked. It is that one lucky gay so four brand and Melissa. 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Big Brother 21 | Aug 26 | LFC Roundtable Podcast

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Big Brother 21 | Aug 26 | LFC Roundtable Podcast

"All day it ran the one less to deal with there in your life down watching t._v. You'll be watching hello everyone and welcome to the big brother twenty-one roundtable podcast cast. This is the podcast where we break down everything from the feeds. I'm your host armstrong and with me. Today is brent brown tearing. I have the question for the tat so this happened to me at the supermarket. Yesterday i was in the supermarket shopping as you do and all of a sudden that i'm every morning song from like sugar ray came on and instead of actually singing the sugar ray song. I started singing the lyrics as it is on the morning update. Show like you know what i'm talking about like every morning terrence vago her. Maybe you don't see you you host. The shows. Listen to sleeping time every time i also cast. That song comes on it but it's you know it's it's the sugar ray song got different lyrics over it which is an lyrics are very fun on so i just wanted to know if anybody actually like is like me and when you hear that song i started singing. The rap lyrics not the actual lyrics which i think is about larry's anyways how you doing doing well enjoying the using the rap lyrics as though it were also with me tonight <music> melissa how you doing melissa. I'm doing well another week. Another failed twist flop. I'll drink tonight a good thing so i will take it but a very very excited to talk about the week gov especially considering like if you go back and listen to our podcast or last roundtable we absolutely kristie was going home and now well anything can happen so very exciting editing. She's still there and that's that's going to be a big factor. I imagine in the stock watch so let's talk about the week as a whole. The last time we spoke as melissa mentioned we were under the assumption that it was really look like christi was going to go home. The odds are definitely stacked against turn. That really didn't make sense for her to stay and in jackson seemed very stubborn very dead set on keeping her are sorry on getting rid of her butts. Taco tuesday happens to the tacos changed everything every time people talk about talking tuesday and makes you wanna eat tacos taco cravings this week and i didn't know why though i didn't understand why i kept thinking about tacos every time i was thinking about what i wanna eat nary go chocolate schuster taco tuesday. I wonder how much big <hes> the big taco lobby paid christie to taco. Teheran wake up on sheep. All all all the taco tuesday. Everyone's always thrown out conspiracy theories about alison gardner. They're not talking about big taco. Okay talking about the taco. We tackle about the darko. We've gone too far after talk. Tuesday christy sells her soul so to speak whilst this sells nothing she she's trying to. I don't know by something. I don't know what it is here. Jackson is worried also jackson's going to tell us this week in regards to last week that he i was concerned that hollywood pick sis over him and that was why he decided he wanted to get rid of assists instead of christie that that leads back to the discussion that i had on the one of the updates about how holly had told jackson that oh yeah we had an alliance and he was like oh yeah i knew about it and she was like we really. How did you know about it and he was like because he didn't. He was just like doing that thing where he's like. Oh well obviously i knew even though now i'm i'm feeling hurt inside. It seems like that moment did have a pretty big impact on the decision and he's going to confess to hollywood. That was one of the at the very at least one of the primary reasons. He ended up changing decision. We know that that that holly had always wanted christie to stay and for nick to be the one to go but nick wasn't the one on the block so it's going to be that takes the fall here. The vote flips and before it flips cliff is going to make short to christie to agree to keep nicole safe and make sure you keep nicole safe. I will not vote to keep you if you are going to put nicole on the block christie says oh. I didn't realize you were a package deal. <hes> <hes> very sykes. They included that in the episode. I thought that was very important point. I was glad they showed that and also just to <hes> go over our previous round table or we totally discounted the chance of christie stain insists leading. I could not accounted on how bad of a player sis was as as i said previously if she absolutely did nothing i think she would have stayed in the big brother house. I think she's here tonight. I think we're rating her. I really think so the minute. She decided to start campaigning in open. Her mouth is when everything really started to go really off the rails for her and it's like putting a loaded gun in the hands of somebody who doesn't know how to shoot. It was terrible idea. She's again should just her mouth shut <laughter>. Everyone already told her that she was safe. I don't understand why she had to like go ed and campaign for anything to begin with but once she started opening opening her mouth that's when everything went to hell because she couldn't even look jackson state in the face and he's like as you're not going to come after me right. I mean we're we're. We're going to christie but we we just wanna no. No you're not going to come after me and holly right she's like do i have to promise no. She was terrible and then mike bloom interviewed her afterwards for parade magazine and she's like well. I didn't wanna lie to jackson because he would have been my primary target again. No idea how to play big brother you can lie in the big brother. House is just very very frustrating. I heard you on the morning updates aaron talking about how everyone is really afraid of wine. I feel like that was not only afraid of buying shoes afraid of playing the game and she just didn't know what she was doing and she was the victim. I couldn't count on about of a player. She was even though i knew all right so that's brands excuse. What were the women we we can get to when it gets stock launch. I i forget who raided who what but we'll talk about. Why i remember brent gave christie a one and he was the only one really yeah this week's because i knew i knew now i apologize. Melissa called it on cysts for sure. I had no idea four weeks worth getting giving your one to finally get her out the door. Oh well this has been manifesting all season all season. Is it really investigation. If you manifested like or at least attempt to manifest it many times apparently the shadows better. Oh it's gotten better yeah spike sometimes and it kind of got stuck in a low spot but i feel like it's better now so okay all right well. You can let me know. It's not so as long as everything's okay then. I just want to make sure that i sound okay. I actually have been thinking about getting a new. Mike set up so this might give me the impetus to do that. Yes yes all right so so i did point out the cliff thing because i do feel like that will be important later on it did sort of reveal his cards a a little bit here with christy who did stay in the game who looks like she might stay in the game this week as well. It's a piece of information out there. That probably shouldn't be out there. If you're cliff. I don't love the move from him. It did seem to me a little bit like his emotions got in the way his dad coming out wanting to make sure that nicole was granted. He does need to to keep nicole safe in order to have any chance at winning this game but but i feel like she would have been fine. I don't know if you needed to do this. Sis ends up evicted did by a five to one vote than holly is going to win the which is not about bird calls which is fine. She wants to put up nick and kristie the target being nick but nick wins the veto put up jests and devictor jess because they need to keep christie in the game to continue to target nick however there was a conversation prior to the competition between nick and christie where they kinda were like we're not only going to go after each other right right and and that's going to become slightly important later on however once holly approaches christie with the idea of being upon next to nick christie's christie's like nah. I don't want to do that and holly hollywood sketched out by that well. What do you mean you don't wanna do that. You promised you would do that was part of the whole reason we just kept you and so so that that changes their plans no no more. Is it going to be nick or jess now. It is nick or christie. One of them has to leave because they can't trust chris anymore anymore. Colorady to already turn back on that decision. They also designed to back door nick. They wanna put a jess and christie with the idea to backdoor act door nick. That's what they ultimately decide on before they learn about america's prankster which once again changes their plans to okay now. I'm just gonna put nick <unk> straight up on the block with my one nomination. Nick is chosen as america's prankster and talk to holly and jackson about it before the nominations there was a confrontation between him and christie in front of jackson holly where they argue about what was said before the competition now we didn't see that conversation conversation but we do know that christie had talked to tommy briefly about wanting to approach nick with some kind of potential arrangement so we have a good idea that it was fairly mutual and the tommy was involved in some way but but it's definitely mostly falling here on nick rather than christie because as nick says himself himself you can't win an argument against christie so ultimately nick and christie and up on the block nick put up by holly christie put up by nick and i've talked about this a lot melissa but but i haven't heard you guys thought that nick no word to holly or jackson before nominations no hint of like maybe let's work something out. No the deal no attempt at all. Keep himself off the block really yeah he like. It's kind of hard because i absolutely think he should've said something and i think that there are many ways to get himself out of this situation however <hes> it's kind of interesting to hear everybody be like i was supposed to tell them about his power beforehand when we've had many seasons where it's like. Why did you tell them about your power. Why didn't you keep pitsea secret. I just feel like it's like when it's convenient for us to be like oh. You should have done this now. We're like we have this. You know omniscient omniscient like sense like oh yeah you absolutely should have done this when in many other situations telling people not tell anyone about your power yeah but i feel like there is a real difference though and i feel like it must be pointed out that this was a finite power. This was only good for one week. It was one time it was your the prankster for this week and then it's over like he had a window in order to do something about it. I take your point though that we have often complained on this podcast many other podcasts. It's about people telling people that they have powers earlier this season. I was complaining about oli telling people that he had the nightmare power or christie telling people that she had panic our all troop group the powers that had many weeks to use them and there is reason not to tell people because they don't want you in the house if you can use it in subsequent weeks however this this one was only for this week and i do feel like he willie in in many ways to really fell like him going on. The block to himself must have been like completely where he's like. Oh well. I'm going up. How can i save myself with this power when really he needed to use the chestnut checkers metaphor four and three dimensional and realize you can stop yourself from going up on the puck in the first place just wanted them and tell them hey look like i heard you on the podcast you're talking about. How nick maybe we should have gone to holly subtly. I feel like i'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that i think another another way to go would just be completely obvious honey. I got the power. Kema got the power. I just want you to know that i can put jacksonville the bach but i'll make a deal the only thing here because i know you're going after me. I have a sense of your going after me. If you don't quote me up i won't put jackson up and we're both happy. Can you agree to that. I'll make a deal with you. I feel like that would have been totally great. You could have done that and he could have stopped himself now. Having said that the way the veto worked out. I still think there's a chance that he could have ended up going home but i also think there's a much better chance than christie would have ended up going home because he would have over the hollywood have already pissed off christie by nominating her and making her the target she might have been able to acquiesce or get chris christie's acquiesced to her telling her look he was threatening me with this hour and then after the veto maybe put him up but i still think that she would probably go home in that scenario once she was pissed off and put on the block the second time so there's really no excuse for nick not to abuse the power here. I guess that's what i'm trying nisa. He he really should have told holly. I'm i'm the prankster. What can we do to work this out so that we're both safe next week and he can put on all the additions menu items like okay. I won't go after you use the veto in the future blah blah blah blah blah whatever that he needs a threat the blunt approach that would be the backup plan. It's always better to start light and and with the with the backup plan if you need to but yes there's zero value in anonymity with this power for nick because nick knew for a fact that he was going on the block. He knew the difference here is. I knew he was going up. I think that i mean if if i if you know you're going up and you got to do something about it but i agree with brown where it's like. He thought that that was like okay. I'm already going up to now. What do i do like after the fact but it's like why why not try and prevent yourself from going up in the first place. There were certain moves. That could have been made but i'm just saying i think it's kind of funny that like usually we're like. Don't tell about the power and right now. We're off at seven point. Yes <hes> yeah because there's zero zero value in being anonymous with this power nick nick and he ends up telling people afterward anyway so it says it's not even as pointless so he ends up on the block and i really do feel will your point brent that if he remains off the block by making a deal with holly does also increase the chances that they won't back stab him at the end of the week because because he's building trust with them by offering deal following through on the deal. That's how you build trust in the house and he didn't do that. He just typical nick thinking that he can skip the steps. The relationship building steps to just be somebody's number one like he did with nicole and to be fair it almost worked with nicole nicole but it hasn't worked with anybody else and it really the only reason it worked with because she has nowhere else to turn and she would love to go anywhere else if she could so so ultimately nick and christie and up on the block and christie might not even have been the best call to put on the block next emigre given that she was already going to be the pond. That holly wanted to put up there. He didn't even ask askalai what she had been thinking what she would have who she would have put up on the block and so he ends up thinking that he's getting away with something thinking that he's putting christie up and that holly wouldn't have love it was holidays plan all along so it's no change whatsoever and <hes> and ultimately it might have actually been better call. If you're not gonna say anything to holly early to put jackson. He probably had a better shot at staying against jackson. However of course jackson's winning the veto but but like still it's you had the chance i will say that <hes> link wealth in the chat has an interesting thought he or she. I can't tell says that knicks should have pretended that he saw christie celebrating about out getting the power so holly and mickey that then putting mickey up on the block so that they would trust christie anymore and sent her out instead so i mean there were a couple of different ways. You could go with power obviously mickey. I'm sorry jackson jackson winning. The veto puts a fly in many of the plans but i still think that his best option would have been to tell tell her that either. He had the power or say. Look somebody else has the power but again. It goes back to the whole like no. No one's really lying this season. I don't know if you've listened to the morning update today but talking talking about the fact that people don't really they're not really lying this year. They're telling like they're making a deal with somebody. They're sticking to the deal. There's no like obvious backstabbing. I think the closest thing that i've seen lately is tommy pretending like he's good with the holly and jackson even really looking for any chance to get them out that you can't which is funny because tommy i think is the one that started all this. Tommy is the one that started telling everybody all. I can't make a deal that excludes includes other people because if i if i do that then i will lose all my driven. A lot of people say this is this is due to cliffs decision way back during class h i very very much disagree with that because that changed that didn't change the game at all until again until tommy's h h when tommy started talking about losing jury votes and he said that a lot to nick. He said it a lot to christie. He's at a lot even to jackson and holly nick started talking about it really really openly nick became an open book which ultimately was to the the detriment of his game. I talked about how nick was playing a almost like a june song game. The difference being that june was never actually loyal to anybody pretty she she was willing to bounce back and forth and continue being shady whereas nick wanted to prove that he wasn't shady people kept calling him shady. If you just accepted that everything everything would have been fine but no he had to go and tell everybody that no these are my people and i am honest and i'm not shady and he ruined his own strategy and it's because he was worried worried about it. I saw the moment it happened. He had a conversation with tommy. Tommy said he couldn't accept the deal with with cliff and nicole because it would ruin his chances in the jury hurry. After that point nick started saying oh well i can't lie about these things because it will ruin my chances in the jury almost word for word what tommy told him and this has spread around the house. Now i use jackson and holly talking about how tommy couldn't possibly move against them or he would ruin his chances in the jury this i fully believe one hundred percent stemmed from tani's input. It's almost a manifesting itself exactly because like i think we we we may get to the end and we may get a bitter jury but i feel like that part of it's it's being caused by people like tommy who savings like this and then it becomes a becomes a reality. I feel like this could really come back to bite tommy in the end if you know oh if if he's been saying all this stuff about oh you know you got to tell the truth and don't lie to help your chances with the jury and and then he ends up cut. I mean he's going to have to cut people. He's the everyone thinks tommy's on their side or these. He's this honest guy. Whatever if he ends up having to cut people he then then can't i mean he could turn around and say oh but you know this is all a game you had. This is big brother. This is what you have to do. I had to do what i do and the people that are going to be like okay. We'll practice what you preach 'cause. You've been telling us this whole time that you have to like in order to ruin your chances of the jury of sell the truth playing on his game now and that is how you create a bitter jury so this could really come back right on the in the end. It's interesting because this has been a flaw in tommy's game that has existed existed from the start. One of the reasons why myself and many people were high on tommy early in the game was because he seemed to have a lot of really great ideas in in terms of how to play the game and how to maneuver around the game but the thing that like constantly made me a little bit sketched out was that he would always be telling people about it. He would tell christy most of the time but even some other people like yeah. I'm not ready to win yet. I'm still throwing. He told cliff that he was throwing competitions petitions. He would tell nick that he was sending back and forth kind of vibes to either side he would tell chemi star or he would tell you kristie that that that he was intentionally getting into fights with people and so on and so forth and i think think this is a similar situation where he he was in a spot where he had a kind of interesting idea. I've never seen i talked about. I've never seen anybody. Nobody tried this before. Intentionally tried to play the k._c. Game but he told he told everyone about it and so now he put that out into the universe and now he's like oh crap. I need to pivot for the first time in the game he can't he's already locked himself in or very my very might be that he locked himself in so it's it's not. It's not looking great for tommy in that regard but i just want to say really quickly. Kenny is joining us in the chat tonight. I actually saw someone who claim to be a few minutes ago and i was like it's really unlikely because i went to the channel and i didn't really give me any proof that it's coming but i asked the company or the person who was pretending to be coming to the enemy and and chemi did did just d. m. e. so it really is the real kennedy. I stand you mama. I love you and i'm so bitter that i wasn't be able to join you that sunday night. When you were on the show at a girl's gonna work sometimes so yes well. I do think i have promised cami segments on the podcast that is strictly for biased opinions about comey. Yes so we're just gonna talk about. I want everybody to express how much they love and honestly i personally feel like i love her the most so i'm just going to throw that out there and let's see what you guys think aaron. I think that's probably true. Although i love her. Love her because she's so honest honest like i get the honest and because i feel like that's me. I really don't suffer fools mama. I really don't just let people have it sometimes and it's not my fault and i'm being honest with you when she was on on the pike is pre interviews and so i know we're going off the rails but whatever issues a real when she was like acid you said as a lover of money and i'm like yes mom. I love you. That's just like i i can't. I love the fact that she's so real about yeah yeah. Okay go ahead john where we have our little. I wanted to fawn over her for a second. Yes yes all right. Thanks for thanks for joining us tonight. <hes> <hes> so so yes so we get back to this point that people are worried about lying. It reminds me of of big brother three where roddy kind of was in a similar spot and in thinking about it. Roddy is a little bit. Tommy ask in some ways but like roddy kind of locked himself into a similar spot roddy was like you can't lie in this game at that point. The jury was sequestered so they could watch the tapes back and you weren't allowed to lie in big brother three and an roddy ended up in a situation where he either had to lie to somebody or <hes> or go home and he basically went home because he wasn't able to lie hi and that's kind of where tommy's at right now tommy i do think is lying and we'll lie and we'll turn on jackson holly but what that does for four his the jury chances are definitely precarious. I have to tell you. I know that there are probably many people in who would agree with me on this really i'm. I'm excited excited about any upcoming but personally excited about winning would be tommy. That's the one i want to see the most does 'cause jackson holly really thing now. There have been things things said today nicole's that no that tommy's been saying some things earlier today she nicole related to holly that she said tommy said that quote there are <music> a few people who've been in power and allot in this house and they need to go so that has to be setting off alarm bells in holly's hat and she told jackson in about it so maybe they don't trust me as they used to having said that though if tommy wednesday joe age and he goes after jackson holly i'm i know he's gonna nominate them. Who i really can't wait to see jackson's reaction. Yes alright so we'll really quickly just like as a side no. I think that the key is that if you go in the house else you have to start off the season not saying i'm not gonna lie but this chiang. I'm gonna swear on my family like no matter what happens. I'm not wearing my family would just throwing that out there to begin and the season just you all know because they always get you win. Eventually you are telling the truth about something you were like. I swear on my family <unk> everything and then the next time and when you are actually lying or or you twisted the truth little they say okay. We'll swear on your family and then you go. I can't really i'm not going to swear on this and they're like like you did previously eastern clear lying. That's why you have to set the precedent at the gecko. They are not going to swear in your family. Blah blah blah because they're trying use that to get you to admit you're lying about something. How's this how's this for a question. What if christie sister was made up what if she didn't have a sister. Do you think that would play well. I think that's such a smart thing to do is to just be like ours so wear on my sister right and then you could say about anything they literally you could say about anything. I swear my sister my sister yeah. Maybe if you won't like it but you can always say look look. I never lied and it's we're on a sister of. I don't have a sister so do you think you will be more pissed at that though sometimes when you get them with clever things that makes them even angrier angrier acidly but i don't know i feel like i wouldn't i as well. I wouldn't be mad about that but who runs mad about. I also feel like this is one of the things where it's really easy to do on paper and i'm sure that you could do it. If you went in the house melissa by <noise> there are a lot of people who are in really tough shape when they first go in the house and and to to say something like look. I'm not going to start a family could set off alarm bells and other people's heads like oh. He's a real gamer he won't he doesn't wanna swear in a family. When if there is anybody there will will surround their family because they were like look. I'm not gonna lie so i consider my family which they're very sanctimony is at the beginning of the season. I feel like that that may not be as easy to pull off as you might think. I've seen people do it but then i i haven't seen it being done as like a strategy. I've seen people say like look. I'm wearing my family. I wanna bring my family into this. This is a game. I don't want to bring green with family and like they don't do it as a strategy but i feel like i would absolutely use as a strategy to stay initially like i'm not going to my family then they can't catch you in anything like you so you you can just say look like i'm not gonna knock on my family but this is what's going on in the house and that's i don't know i just think that that's that's something that i i would employees all right well nick and christie on the block after being nominated and playing veto and losing the veto to jackson nick then finally admit to the fact that he was the prankster his his pitch here is that showing loyalty loyalty when nobody's looking is the truest form of loyalty which i guess is the best way to pitch this once. You've already missed a lot of opportunities but but it's not gonna work and he's gonna make christie pitch to them. I'll sell you my soul. I'll do whatever you want but it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. They don't want him to stay and as as of right now they still want to vote him out over the course of the week. Jackson holly are also going to lock in their final four deal with cliff and nicole now they do it. Separately cliff is very much on board with them or at least appears to be whereas nicole not on board and actually tries tries to dodge it a bit with with some <music>. I think genuine emotion but also definitely here to try to avoid the question itself. They're not overly concerned about nicole as of right now but she is trying trying to avoid making any promises that she can't keep as it stands. Nick is pissed at tommy cliff because they're not voting for him and we could see him. Throw tommy under the bus in the coming days we already saw a tiny bit of that not from nick but from nicole who very very recently went to jackson and holly and pitched to keep nick to them saying to them that you should be concerned about tommy. Tommy has mentioned that there are people who have i've been in power for a while and need shots taken against them. Tommy has been a little loose lipped about his targets being jackson and holly. He's done a great job of keeping them. Them completely snowed but most of the house has a decent idea that he might target them. <hes> at the very least nick knows all of the there and so this should be getting getting out more and more over the next few days but jackson holly have now caught onto it a little bit there like how tommy say that now. He probably just said that to say say it to nicole. Were not that bush should be no. No we trust tommy but maybe we should talk to christie about it so they're currently in the process of having their eyes opened and essentially about tommy we'll see where that goes that could lead to some very interesting stuff in the coming days brent well. I i guess the thing that i really want to say is that there's been so much bad play over the past few days with nicole in both both playing pretty bad. I'm sorry but nicole. I love you. She's a great gal but her play is just so bad and honestly she should be punished for how bad she is playing right now but she's not going to be because other people are playing worse as she's trying to save nick. She's trying to let holly in jackson. No like look. I'm real. I'm not really on board. Orbits plans to get nick out and here's the reasons why and she really doesn't have enough evidence to make them or to convince them that they are making the wrong decision here but you know who does have the evidence is nick nick and she should be convincing nick to do this for her. Not her that is great and nick. Nick nick needs to let go of tommy. That's the problem again. I'm so sick of somebody getting so many chances in this game. Nick was given the clower completely screwed it up had a chance to stay and now it's probably not going to stay but he's been given another advantage. Tommy told him to his face. Look voting for you this week. Tommy could have held that information and he could have told me look. I got your back. Don't worry and pretend to be whole week. He's going to ethnic in south when in reality he is not going to be undecided sided exactly or because. He promised me he said if you're on the buck with against christie last week. I'll always vote for you. Don't worry about that. He told nick that last week but that was when christie was going. Oh so now comes this week. It's really pissed about that but he needs to let tommy go he needs to like he's been told that tommy is not loyal to him by tommy himself. He's like look. I can't vote for you this week. I'm sorry i made a deal. Whatever else knows about it. He needs to use that information and try to turn the tide by letting jackson holly know the tommy and chris the are not loyal to them right now and i feel like if nick state he would be at least for one round yeah. I could see a situation where it's like okay tommy. Tommy hasn't told him that he's going to vote to keep christie so nick still thinks he's on his side. Tommy tells them okay my targets for people who have been in power whatever and to the knicks like well okay tommy's voting to keep me so i don't want to like throw him under the bus or i don't wanna like him to jackson holly but tommy straight straight up said he wasn't going to vote to keep him so like if i'm nick. I'm like okay well. Tommy is clearly not on my side so i need to figure something out and i don't care if tommy is a ah finally being true to whatever because he's clearly not true to me so he's got to find a way to get himself out of this and he has he has the the answers he has the method. You just doesn't know how to use it and you know nicole inserting herself in trying to convince jackson highly. I don't know if this is a good idea. Yeah that's not a good move like she needs to stay out of it and not bite the hand. That feeds are essentially. She's been like handed this final four deal. He ended like literally on a silver platter. That could have been anyone nothing work. High cliff has been like hey. I'm keeping nicole. He could have said the same thing adjuster. Whoever luckily for nicole it's here it's her and so she's been given this final four deal with evil that are like clearly winning a lot the challenges you don't i mean like she barely do anything. In order to make the final four at this point if those to keep winning and instead she liked balked at it is like ronald reagan. I you know i don't want nick to go. Whatever like just accept the deal like later on. If you decide like ok i wanted to stray straight from this deal. I want to go with nick. I wanna do whatever then do that then but with someone gives you a deal you say yes. You say shirl work with you know problem. Let's do this because this is big brother enough league i do it. I just don't understand it and it's really weird because i really thought the poll like a really good head under soldiers for the game and now i'm i'm less. Let's convinced tearing that what happened during week four yes week four week five <hes> whenever she was on the blog. I think it was week four. I'm less convinced that that that is the impetus for everything. I feel like what we're seeing right. Now is nicole. I mean i know that we've talked about this before that after she got torched by nick when she expose just to nick that the six shooters were going to come after him and then they all had that bullying session room the she was really burned by that almost went on that week that that has caused her to play a lot more passively and more defensively. I actually don't think that's true anymore. I think that the nicole that we're seeing is the real nicole. The problem is that she's really not a good game player here. She has too much heart in the game right now which i can identify with but i really thought that when i saw her as a superfan go in the house i thought we were going to get much more of a gamer. She does speak eloquently and articularly when she is like by herself and talking to the cameras but how she feels that it's not i just wanna be clear. It's not that she distrusts jackson and holly or does she doesn't mean he does have distrust if she wants to work with them if they are legit but she is concerned that they are not legit that they are basically playing the middle and trying to play them against tommy and christie when in reality it's actually nicole more in the middle and realize the position that she said so. I really wish does she would play a lot more assertively rather than defensively or just is. It's not my cup of tea at least right. Now i will say i definitely noticed a shift in how she operated in the house. You know pre week. It was three three and a post week three at least in terms of the h winning so i do think that that definitely changed the way that she approached the game and i will also say that. I think that i don't have a huge problem with how how she is wanting to keep nick. It's hugely beneficial for her game. If she keeps nick. I just think that she needs to go about it. Any much better way. I also don't have the have too much of a problem with her skirting around making an actual deal with holly in jackson as long as she gets away with it because if she ends up sitting being in the final two with cliff cliff betrayed holly jackson after making a deal with them whereas nicole kind of never actually shook their hands. I do think that's going going to matter a lot to holly and jackson so as long as she gets away with it. I'm okay with it but the second she gets caught. This is a mistake. I think it's one of the things it's like. Okay a ah. You know you're like didn't actually shake your hand. I feel like that's not going to make them feel any better. They're gonna wouldn't commit to us like i disagree because holly holly we said to jackson like are you concerned that she never actually agreed to it and like jackson is a big guy on like all right. We shook hands. That's it like we locked this in and he's that's exactly what holly jackson. They're trying to do the exact same thing that nicole did to them to tommy and christie and so. I think that they will respect attack because they're they're in their logic is while if we make the we shake hands then we will lose their jury vote but because we're not because we're just leading them on. They will get our jury vote right. I hear what you're saying. I do feel like that. She doesn't have anywhere else to go. Tommy christie opera deals. Are they offering them. Final four yours is that is that forthcoming. I don't see he knows they're going to go home this week. Most likely i mean working with holly and jackson is fucking dream. There are always going to go up on the block and instead of you you know that and what is the problem with saying yes to a final four and also still working with neck. I mean there's still more people that need to get out like. I don't see why it's like open. I have to be final two with nick earls. This isn't going to work out like it. Just doesn't make sense to me why hi it's like i can't i can't agree to this final four and still want to try and work with nick and he gets out the the problem is if she i think from her perspective effective if she shakes jackson and holly's hands she will final four with them. Obviously that means she's not putting them on the block or anything and then christie leaves and she keeps nick back then who does she have left to put up jess and tommy. She doesn't want to put up jess either she would. She wants in her actual final four so then it's only tommy and then who else it's either i. She's putting nick or just whatever and was used a win. H h which is like well air he ashley you can't you can't play for this but if you have a deal with your at a vinyl floor you've nick working outside. You've gotten just that you. You have a thing with tommy. Shares now meeting with the leg then throw h._o._a. Age and you've got all these people who aren't going to put you up but she but she needs to win. Each wages to put us is and some wins and winsome respect to her game to get on her resume game when the when the last year that's a lot to to gamble on if you if during the coal and you have the opportunity to win a competition you're not you should not throw that competition at this point in the game in my opinion yeah i mean yeah but then you just have to pick someone and put them up like i mean just converging right and if she can get away with having a jackson and holly assume that she's working with them without actually making a deal then then then she will get away with being able to turn on them if she needs to at that point tap. It makes me feel like jackson holly. I feel very uncomfortable. I don't i am just saying like all ios. Maybe they do like. I just feel like they might eventually. She'd still want solidifies something with them. Like maybe right now. They're like well. You know we were just talking figured it out whatever but like if if it gets down to she's not like acting if ronald four. I feel like that's kind of like okay this his weird like i wouldn't i mean i just think it's a bad position to be in for nicole like to be in this weird like well. We're kind of in front of war but i never said yes. I didn't actually say the word. It's like you know. I don't know i mean of course like if if a couple of weeks down the line jackson has h h he's putting up jests and tommy or whatever it is. It's not even a couple of weeks at that point if he's looking at like nicole is on the block because she needs to be used as a pawn and actually actually maybe we should keep jess over nicole nicole you really you. Have you really been with us like. I don't know i feel like again. I feel like if they can give she can get away. Okay with it then then. Is there a problem. You're saying that you don't like it because you think she won't get away with it but if she can get away with it. Don't you think it's the right move. I think that's looking at like the end result to be like oh that was good. I don't know i just feel like if i if you're if you're not looking at the end result like okay whether she whether it works out for her it doesn't work out for. I feel like if you're thinking like is this gonna work out. I would say most likely no so i would go with the method that is a stronger method which is like just solidify before just go for it like i don't know i feel it gets it's looking at the end result being like well. If it works out that's great and she made the right choice choice which is true but like if i'm looking at it. I think the right choice. If i don't know the end result i think the right choice is to solidify something and also work with with nick on the side and other people on the side and just like see where it goes clearly. I completely agree with that. I i was just trying to make the point that i do think that if she you can get away with it this will become a good move and i wanted to cue that up so that we're not just completely bashing on this move and then it turns out win the game and the jury at the end. You know what i mean. I i. i do feel like that. Affirmatively agreeing to something when jackson how could be something that's good for her later on the game like nicole final question. What did you do in the game. Well i let me relationships with people and one of them to be here and i wasn't a threat so i mean as opposed to saying something like look we got down to a final nine final eight and jackson holly clip and i made a deal and this is the deal we made and whether she backstabs them or not one of the two ways it doesn't matter what she does at that point because she can say look i agree to deal knowing that i was is gonna backstab and that's that's the game i wanted to play or. I held strong to it because that's the kind of honorable person i am. Whichever way she wants to go is fine but at least she has a map of okay. This is what i did this. This is what agreed to take. I feel like i do probably side with melissa. I understand what you're saying tearing. I just prefer that nicole's game look a little cleaner on the other hand. I take your point though that she has given herself options leading herself or wiggle room but i feel like she's given herself more wiggle room all season long and i just want something a little bit more concrete from her now and again i i'm with you. I agree. I don't like the nicole is doing this. I think she should just agree to a deal. I'm just trying to make the point that this could be something good and i don't mean that to be results-oriented either. I'm trying to point out that there is a benefit to this move. It's not just what is she doing. Why isn't she just shaking the the hand dummy. There is an upside to this move. I wanted to point out. There is like jury management kind of like in the end. She can be like look. Guide didn't live anyone. I didn't go to ask this question so once once she realizes nick's going home once. That door is closed. Let's say tomorrow or even wednesday once. She knows it's going <hes>. Don't you feel like ben. She will agree to this. I feel like she is holding onto the fact that i don't wanna be train. Nick and nick might still be here once nick or or maybe it's maybe it needs to be past asked tents. Once nick goes then won't she agreed to something. I feel like at that point. She must do it otherwise they're going to look at our i mean because it keeps saying ozone zone right now because knicks here and then once it goes. I feel like then she's many. I think she i think she might. I honestly think that she might also switch over over a little bit. I think that i wouldn't surprise me if her in cliff have a conversation where like hey i actually i'm really threatened by those those two. Maybe i should kind of work with tommy and christie little bit and clipping. That's great. We can separate a little bit. That's fine because we already kind of talked about how she doesn't love the idea of a jackson and holly final. Four and cliff has been like that's cool. That's fine with me basically while still being like oh no no colas definitely with us so wouldn't surprise me. She ended up kind of switching teams. Depending on how this week plays out because the way the week is playing out right now it it does seem like it's against nick against tommy and christie because they are the ones that are against nick right now so it probably will end up pushing her to jackson holly and we will probably see something in there but i personally think the way cliff is handling. This is absolutely the correct words in what he's been doing all season long which is absolutely really. I'll totally work with you a bigger target. I definitely don't expect this to go down to the end but here we go like that. Take away to play it. I think i like i really like what close to and doing lately but we can talk about instead of the house all right so as of right now it does look like the vote count will be something along the lines of four to one sending nit comb nicole. Maybe giving nikei sympathy vote. Maybe it'd being unanimous but i kind of expect her to give the sympathy vote personally so let's talk about the state the house here it's kind of it's kind of a fresh new board. We're looking at a little bit here it starting to look like it's kind of two uteem's again with some extra pieces floating around. We've got this final four. I couldn't really come up with a name for them. I went with jolly zing thing because it's jackson holly with cliff in nicole fellowship of visiting you call jackson holly jolly. I dunno going for it. Who so call it fellowship jolly. That sounds sounds like a brothel. I actually like that better. It consists of cliff nicole jackson holly clifford nicole right now do seem to be targeting tommy and christie's as long as nick is the the one that leaves wouldn't surprise me too much if cliff wasn't crazy about winning the personally but i think that he would be fine targeting either tommy or christie if he did win in order to make sure that one of them went home. I think he'd still feel pretty comfortable with jackson. Holly being big targets after that jackson jackson. If he won the age would target christie or jess in my opinion as of right now. Tommy stuff might change that. He also plans uh-huh right now on throwing the h. Which people talk about that all the time will they actually go through with it. He's talked about it a lot though he mentioned it yesterday. He brought it up again today day. He said i'm throwing the f out of that joe age i again. I don't think that's going to actually happen. Especially once the campaigning starts and he realizes this is probably even more than tommy might be against him so that's something to watch out for and really he could if he won target any of christie jess or tommy in my opinion and then we have team they know each other but different this time two different. They know each other more to tommy and christie tommy and christie no longer t- manifest. That's that's done with their team know each other. They currently lately are targeting jackson and holly. This could theoretically change the jackson hole. You're definitely the biggest threats in the house and i would probably see it as a mistake if they decided the target cliff and nicole over jackson holly but i do think it's possible that at some point during the week kristie starts feeling scared and makes a deal with jackson holly that maybe they don't go against but i think most of the time i'm looking at like ninety at least ninety percent ninety-five percent chance. I think they're targeting jackson holly next week. I feel like if you have the shot. You have to take it when these people have been winning the last sixty five hundred six competitions or something like like that like it's atrocious yeah i really do too and i don't think there's anything like christie can only make matters worse at this point by the openly campaigning. I know knicks gonna make a strong push push for a campaign here. Maybe she's going to try to say some stuff but i really wish that she would word herself carefully and be like well. I agree to last week agreed to all that. I'm sticking troops you bet because they still think that they have her on the hook. Jackson highly still think they have christie on the hook to not targeted him. Even though christie probably it's. It's is saying look. I'm done with this. After being upon honest week i'm done so we'll see if she has to put any more work. As far as that invoice is concerned but i do rather enjoy the setup right now. Actually i think that cleveland weapon nicola in a really san fr- in tastic spot in that they can win h h and go after tommy and they have the votes to get him out. If they want to still probably wouldn't be the the main targets the rich. I was just going to say they went into age. They might be worried. Oh well then. I'll be the no you won't be able to target even if even if you take tommy or christie out of the game the following week we'll with. Let's say tommy winds up and they get christie out instead the following week tommy wednesday show h he's not putting up clinton nicole. He's going after jackson. It's an holly so they really have a free shot this week to do whatever they want. I hope they take the opportunity and win h h if they can clinton nicole and talked about on the other hand if they don't win. I still feel like things look good. Yes so then we have team everyone else. Abandon me aka team number one ak team. Why don't you trust me. It's snick nicole. He's only gotten a cold left. Tommy his abandoned his boy and and they're basically just trying to keep nikolai but it is looking like nick will aleve and this team will dissipate <hes>. It's not really it's not a real team then finally <hes> team. Why am i always left out jess and she is just being just. I keep forgetting. She's in there. If i'm being honest. I'm always like man the house. Who is the next argue. That's going on and then. I never i never think of her. Here's the thing though i think that like she's just chilling right now. There's absolutely a chance that she wins the next h h and then break <unk> subjects in holly for the zone like the second major like big move h._o._a. J- just randomly doing it and christie being their ears. It's makes to move if she then gets the n. League she has a good argument for a win. Sometimes is better lucky than good like who else got out. Jack who else has got. She gets out jacqueline jackson as we talk about that really quickly what she put up sharks and holly. I know that christie would be inner ear but just as a strong willed woman sometimes when she wants to be like. I know the jackson hollywood talking about putting up like clinton. Tommy and i'm like i don't see her putting up cliff. She put up tommy but i felt like christie would put in a lot of work to make it doesn't happen. I actually don't know just what do i honestly think she could do. Literally anything including the the least likely thing but i still think it could happen. Is she still could put up christie for all. I know like she literally do anything. I think again least leases likely chance she'll put up christie but anybody else's complete fair game including clued cliff in nicole. She could put up tommy. She could put up jackson. It could be tommy in jackson and they could be it could be jackson and cliff it really you guys are most likely to now which us because they never college of the d._r. She was complaining about bad earlier today like no one cares what just thinks. She's a snooze fest. Yeah i mean look. I could absolutely see it'd be jackson cliff. If christie is in her ears. Don't put up tommy you gotta take the shot jackson holly early but she's like no but holly is oh man and i don't want to do that so maybe it'd be jackson and cliff at that point and if you count the votes than jackson would go home unless as he won the veto in which case then maybe holly. Maybe holly goes who knows but again. It's just so we'll never know so there you go. That's the that's the current state of the house. Things things have simplified a little bit but there's still a lot of interesting dynamics at play and whoever wins it's going to be very very important once again jackson in holly in basically a do or die situation they can rely a little bit on cliff nicole but they're not exactly known for their competition prowess at the moment and and if <hes> if any of jess tommy or christie win i do think the jackson holly are in a lot of trouble. Now we are going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by it. 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Jr and is now targeting nick looking like she will be able to take nick out of the game. How do you feel about her this week. I feel good about her this week. I feel like i. I don't know why i gave her a low score well. I guess i was kind of moving her around but <hes> you know i feel good about her this week. I feel like she's getting out a good target. However i do think i feel like all of this has to be said with the idea that we don't know what's happening with this rank week whether or not israel fiction whatever but i'm going to go off of the the assumption that this is a real eviction. Everything's gonna play out as normal <hes> because you know if if it doesn't play out as normal and there is no fiction. I feel like this could not really. I'll say just really quickly just to talk about that. 'cause they're asking us in a chat about that. I do not think there is a reset this week. I think that the elections going to go through again. Julie doesn't lie to us. That's the thing i think a lot of people are forgetting. She said next thursday is addiction tonight. Another house gets to be addicted and they will join the jury someone will be sent to the jury is what she said so i really feel like people are really wishing a reset into existence or a do over its existence when in reality is just a part of the twist and it really is going to be addiction. I am of the opinion that once you think's think's going to happen either in no matter what this week is legit there there will be an addiction on thursday what i think a lot of people are saying that they want to reset or they're thinking. There's going to be a reset because they want to have a double addiction fiction. I don't even think they need to have that to have the double addiction they just have the the week like normal instead of having the fast forward from final final three that they have done in past years as i really feel like they can grab an extra week there and do a double addiction like from seventy five or something which ironically would be when we're in new york for the big brother event so i'm hoping for that you know i feel like a situation where it is a reset week none. None of neither of her targets goes home. I'd just just be like that's really bad for her. Because it kind of made her show ricard's to everybody i mean she already agitated christie. She's considering putting her up on the block when she didn't have after that because the franks person was put somebody on the block and ended in christie and it just kinda soured her relationship kristie a little bit even even now since that was promised but whatever i'm so sorry just before we get away from the cancelled eviction. I did ask the audience that's what they thought if they thought this week's fiction will be cancelled some sort of reset or prank or whatever and it was actually pretty split forty forty. Two percents of the audience said yes. They do think so a good forty. Two percent of our audience genuinely thinks that the the eviction will be canceled this week fifty eight percent said no well. I'll be so livid. I'll be so limited. If this week is a reset of some kind or it doesn't count somehow like i mean all of the great game play. I feel like everything's setting up really great for clinton. Call if somehow there's a reset and doesn't win h h and then we have we have to live there. I girl no no no no no no. Let's let's get enjoyed lie to us and she said that there's going to be an addiction. It's only be sent to the jury even when they did the reset during b._b. Sixteen they told us what was going to happen. They told us about the button we knew that whole week that none of that was counting we knew that thursday that none of it was county and so if they're going to have something this thursday wear they are like there is no eviction they would tell america like they would say tuning thursday to see the house get fooled by prank week and there will be we know addiction but she didn't say that she said someone who's going to go to the jury so again. There's no reset to me yeah so i mean under the assumption. I'm sure that there is no reset. I do think that all played this week while i mean as well as she could have considering this whole prankster thing so you know i i'm going to go up on holly. I'm going to give her. I'm going to give her a six just because i do think that with the addition of the prankster stir it kind of a kind of hurt her relationship with christy <unk> would have kept the same in all that so and considering the fact like the her in jackson going into next week or pretty big targets. That's why i'm keeping it at six but it is increasing from last week yeah man it's. It's still a pretty crazy game for ratings because i could easily see holly leaving next week and i can also easily see her winning the game because she's a pretty good spot. I don't love the way that she has played in power i think did she is not playing as well as she thinks she is. She really trust tommy way more than she should. I did disagree with the decision to keep christie in the game. I think that might come back to haunt them. They would i think they would feel much more comfortable heading into next week. If they had won this age wage wage and it was tommy sis and just that they were competing against <hes>. That's not the case. It's tommy christie jess and that's a lot more dangerous chris especially because it christie has a lot more influence over jests than assist would have and i think that they would have a much better shot just coming after them. If christie wasn't there and says wouldn't be competing eating as well as christie might so didn't like that decision. Don't love the decision this week either to keep christie around. I think that there is a compelling case to be made aid that keeping nick around maybe the better decision but she is once again made me decision that i'm not sure i'm on board with however she still in a not in terrible spot if she does keep winning h wages or click for nicole pull in with one or jackson keep trading back and forth they could continue to do well and even if they do take a hit jackson is the one that is likely going to take that hit as long as he doesn't win veto and send her out the door in that spot and then once jackson's axons gone then i think is turned to cliff and nicole before they turn to holly who's a little more out on her own at that point so i could absolutely see holly making it down to the end and winning but i can't go up to a seven just i'd if she was making smart decisions. I think i'd easily have hereto seven but i'm not not in love with her decisions. I'm gonna stay here at six yeah. Give her a six last week and i will go up to seven this week. I feel pretty good. I don't feel as battery as you do. Taryn <hes> i think she has made some mistakes obviously the thing about telling christine that she was going to be the pond she didn't need to but she couldn't predicted that she was only going to have one nomination asian. I know that julia said that the duties of the h will be affected but on the other hand. It's very tough to predict the way these twists are going to go. I didn't love the way she approached christy but on the other hand. I don't feel like there was really a great way to go to christi. Yeah i mean maybe she could go to christine. Say look cash chips from last week agreed upon so. I'm gonna put you on the box. I still feel like in that instance. Christie is not going to be like oh okay. I still feel like christie is going to be like really like so soon. I still feel like you're going to get the same result from christie so i don't even really hold accountable a hold her accountable if not too much like here's the thing i always feel like the jackson is your shield in front of her as we've talked about and i feel like she's the most likely winner at this point. I really do even more so than tommy. I feel like that holly is the most likely winner of the game. I think she has a sterling resume two point two when she gets to the jury about what she's done on. She has good relationships with evil. Even nick this point i would consider voting for her and he's not a big fan of hollies so i felt good about her. Acting like a seven is a wordy sort all right yeah i think i think that's fair and i think you're probably right. I think she is again. It's weird to say because i think she could go home next week but the game is exactly exactly and the two people who i think are the safest or even definitely the two people i think in cleveland nicole i don't have a great shot at the end and so it really early balances things out and make it a lot harder to predict so broncos with a seven the audience did go with a six once again so so holly will remain here at a six overall so let's talk about jackson who last week received straight fives from from the whole panel final here plus the audience and say personally. I am going to stick with my five. I actually considered going down. I also considered going up because this is such a weird game right now. I hate that he won another veto. He looks so threatening if there was any chance that tommy army was going to go after cliff nicole before jackson holly. I feel like that chance is made even more even less likely because because he's it's just so threatening us such a target he is the kind of player that will need to continue to win over and over a lot of competitions down the road and i don't even have faith that he can keep keep pulling that off once they get into more mental competitions because he's not the best at studying so don't love that but he did survive yet another week he didn't even need to win the h h to do it so he is capable of playing the next h. and and he does have two people that might not come after him next week in cliff in nicole if they win so i feel like he's still not a terrible spot and if things continue to go well for him competition-wise then he could be sitting there toward the end especially if they do come after him him and he wins the veto and holly goes home instead looking even better so it's a five for me on jackson brent yeah. I'm going to stick with my five as well. There's just nowhere. There's nowhere for me to go with him because i feel like he is a ripe target next week on the other hand. He's going to have to competitions in order save himself. He's gonna be h h he's going to have the veto most likely unless there's some weird backdoor at what they'll be a people at seven people have to have to this week so they they could sell technically backdoor name. I guess but i feel like he's going to have to competitions to save himself and whenever jackson has to competitions i feel like you have to probably bet on him so it's it's a weird scenario though but the only in his his game play hasn't really lift me up in terms of you. I feel like he's entirely too trusting of what people what what what he thinks people are going to do. He is worried about jessica. When in reality i feel like the person who should be most worrying about this omni and he doesn't see that currently obviously selena coal is putting in work today. Maybe opened his eyes navy naval do so as the week whereas on but right now. He shouldn't be trusting tommy and he does so. I feel like all of that together balances out or just an average score for jackson. Let me say i've been loving what he's been doing. I don't know if i buy his whole rehabilitation tour intentionally doing all this stuff but ever ever since jack left. He has been a lot more approachable lot more fun in the house. A him had the the piping with him and nicole was so fun to watch. It really was a blast from the feeds unusually. I don't like stuff like that but i really thought that they were all having a great time and so i'm cool with jackson as far as watching him have have you heard about his master plan to intentionally gain weight to look more like an average guy i have. That's what i've been doing on you. I feel like when i first started the podcast that mean you or just turn and heads left and right erin and i felt like i needed to be more approachable people so that's i have my you know every now and then try to come down with with the rabble truly truly inspiring figure this yeah i agree. I all all of the decisions that holly made that i disagreed with jackson has been onboard those as well and it's part of why i haven't been super high on jackson's decision making either either. The audience went with a five on jackson as well so melissa. Are you going to make it a clean sweep once again am and it's it was tough for me because i do think that he's been flying a a good game. I do like the idea of him and holly teamed up with clinical which also like good for them. I'm not only strategy is but like imagery habilitation lies. They feel like that was like smartest thing they could have done because people really liked the nicole and now it's like oh well jackson holly. They're saying this was their team. All along they want to work with good is whatever and so like. I feel like this was very smart on their behalf but i i love it. I mean i'm totally getting taken by it. I loved the idea that awesome so whatever yeah so i do that. I will say that the the reason why i'm not going up on jackson this week. Even though i want to is because he didn't get his target out last week and i feel like like once you set a target and once you're like this is the person i want to go. You have to just fall through. I don't know i i feel like atwal. I personally am very very happy. That christie is saying instead of says. I think that he might have made a mistake with that. I think that you know he made it very clear to everybody that that was his target and christie knows that she was target and just because he turns around the end. The weekend is like okay. You know what actually i'm gonna. I'm gonna help you stay. It doesn't clean away all the stuff you've been saying all week about her being targeted and she's like enemy number one on and all that sort of stuff and i do think that is a lingering feeling that will come up so you know while i'm happy. I don't know if it's great for jackson's. It and i will also say that. I think it hurts jackson even more than it hurts hall. Even though i do think it hurts them both in the jury the more org jackson tries to defend the move to keep christie the more. He looks like a mark the more he looks like a boy here you really got thrown hard didn't y'all <hes> <hes> and that's how it's going to look to the jury when they watch the tapes when when the when this comes in she's going to be like i dunno chris people off and it's gonna be explaining leaning into you and you're going to be hearing it from sis and you're gonna be like yeah. How did how did they decide to send you here. Instead of her self let's see next up is jess and i can. I can say that last week just received two from the audience this week. She also received a two from from the audience. She also received twos for myself and brent melissa. You were down at one for jess. So do you feel the same way no. I'm willing to give her a to. I i think she is sticking around a little bit. Unfortunately maybe but i mean unless you know who knows next week h._o._a. She gets is jacksonville and she's like the biggest contender for a win who knows but i do think that she is kind of a non entity and at the same time time while that is not fun to watch and doesn't make for great gameplay it is it is a viable strategy. I guess it makes it so. You're not the first person to walk out the door. So you know i'm not well. I'm not impressed with her game. <hes> i do think that she will be sticking around for a little bit in that gift cer- to to all right brent yeah look. I'm going to go up a point. I'm gonna point. I gave her to last week. I'm gonna give her a three this week. I think that she does have some winter potential. I really do as much as i hate to say even though she's playing a pretty terrible game even though she really has no alliance to speak even though she really there actually is a way for her to go home next week of jackson's eight weights nominates emanates jessica and christie christie wins the veto. I have to think that will lead jessica's going to go home in that instance so gosh i. I really wish that we would hear more. She doesn't even really talk on the feeds a lot except when she's talking she talks but she's not talking strategy out loud about what i really want to hear from her. She does talk to christie the a little bit but it just is more of a feeling on my part. I share terrence concern that she could actually jessica christie on the body. Even though she loves her as well i i we need to do it. It's a game who and she could also be really historic about the fact that big brother zinger for being a snooze letting that may also weigh in her decision if she wins in h h but you have to like as much as we can't stand jessica. I really do feel like that. We have to look at her in winter equity biens and the fact that she is well liked by the people not by everyone but but if she wins another age like here's the thing in one of her just gonna get to the end i feel like she's gonna win and h h or two along the way and if she does that and got jack out possibly gets jackson out in windsor way to the end. It's gonna be really hard to vote against her but you know stranger. Things have happened so so it's a three for me. Brent how could you how could you be so high on. Justice is outrageous unbelievable. I'm also a three on jess suggests. That was actually to hear you say that because i thought you were going to be really down my throat about this one. You know what look saw so again. Sometimes it's better to reluctant good. Digest has been pretty lucky in this game. This is a three jess. Sis leaving was so oh create for her good. That's the that's the biggest goat to be taken to. The end is now. She's gone now now. Jackson's kind indiv- in that spot if anybody wants to bring her long and so this leaves that's great because christie feels good about jess now this week. It looks like nick is leaving. That's fantastic for just nick is one of the people that would have come after this. Now kristie is again. It's still not coming after her now. How now all of a sudden it's like especially now because nick because nick is leaving in the way that he's leaving. It's likely going to happen that. Tommy gets outed as being anti jackson holly which which means that just falls once again probably back behind the radar a little bit in front behind tommy and christie in terms of jackson and holly and it's really only jackson axon competing next week and if nick and nicole or cliff when they're not targeting just their targeting tommy or christie and i could absolutely see just continue to slide by <music> now that now that has gone. She is the prime person to be taken to the end and she's still capable of winning some of these mental competitions and making a name for herself before she makes it there. I think that she has been very lucky in the last few weeks and all of a sudden her position is looking a little bit better than it did before she's still in my opinion the least likely to win the game but again. This is a very fluid game and anybody can win and that does include jess in my opinion so to three from me. How great is that. I'm just a dude supper. Just just a moment just to say like how great is it that everybody can win the game. I mean we g- last year. I knew that there were some people could win the game. I knew last year. There were some people that couldn't even get to the end of the game unless they like literally one out this year. It's just such a different story. I mean talk about a great ending to a season <hes>. There are some people who are playing really bad and make no mistake in fact like i said before nicole is among those people but i really do enjoy whether it's good gameplay bad game play. The fluidity of the game really lights me up and i'm really psyched about it. Yeah yeah i i can dial it back. Just just one notch if just wasn't capable of winning the game. I'd be pretty okay with that but i see your point and i completely agree so let's talk about tommy. Tommy brent what are your thoughts on. Tommy army this week losing another one of his allies here nick problems allies and there are people in the game cliff and nicole and possibly jessica through like maybe a jacksonville wind might get tommy out ways for him to leave the game and as i said before clinical if they do put tom ian christie up on the block. They have the votes to get him out. No matter what jackson and holly say because jessica's not gonna vote against christie and clinton nicole can vote against tommy and dan so they they can <hes> get rid of that way so there are dangers. Lurking also nicole is outing him. Also nick is probably going to be continually down on tommy as the week it goes on. He realizes he doesn't have his vote and he's like well. What else do i have. I mean i know he doesn't want to do it but he might throw tommy under the bus and really let a jackson holly. I know where some of the bodies are buried so to speak and let them know that tommy is not as loyal to them as they might think that they really need to be concerned about timing christina game but i feel like overall he you really have to hand it to him that he's played really well. It is amazing to me to watch before today tali in jackson talking about the fact that they have tommy and maybe it's because of his weak where he talked about not wanting to betray people that couldn't be straight people that he needed to stay true to what he said or you'd have a better jury and in fact that's as i said before manifesting itself in some ways in that if he does go on to lose the game i feel like it will be because of his own actions in some ways that he manifested better jury having said that i feel like he i have grown to have faith in thomas social ability to fix stings and even nick finds it hard even after tommy told him that i'm not going to vote for you this week. Nick finds it hard to be mad tommy so i have to go up <hes>. I'm going to give him. A six gave him a five last week. I'll give them a six this week. I still feel like aside from holly. Tommy is your most likely winner in just shows how good the social social game of big brother is a real rare commodity these days in that somebody like tommy can be as it's so obvious to us what he's going to do but he's kind of the people that colin jackson completely snow just because of how nice he is to them and i feel like a lot of people that's not the sexy way to play but it is a effective way to white yeah. I just heard tommy say too. I think it was christie that he is a lot more emotionless than he lets on in the game and i like that's something that i i caught onto very quickly when it came to tommy and i think i think that's to his benefit because we watch tommy. We have a better idea of who he actually is as a player but i think that because he is just emotionless most of the time he's like the hulk okay. He's always angry. No he's always emotionless and so he's constantly faking emotions with people and to us. It seems very obvious but because that's all he's ever done with them. They seem to believe it. Nobody seems to see how fake tommy can be in the house and and and i think that he is a lot of fake and that is definitely something in his favor however. I don't love what he's been doing this week. I'm in particular. I understand again. His i think fear of a bitter jury when it comes to sorry nick. I can't give you my vote. I do not like that move from him one because he didn't need to do that the votes. Weren't there even with tommy on board. He didn't realize that yet but he should have stopped to think figure that out before leading now so that by itself he didn't the need to do that. He didn't need nick off that way then second by telling nick so early on in the week he that sorry but just flat out. I'm i'm not gonna you're not gonna have my vote and no matter what that basically gives. Nick free rein to throw tommy under the bus for the rest of the week. Now nick has not taken the taken up on that essential free rein yet but i feel like it's only a matter of time surely surely and honestly even if it doesn't do this. I guess you you can credit tommy social game that is too in love time to do it but but man did he leave that door wide open and if nick does throw him under the bus and he gets in trouble level with jackson holly and he is on the block next week because of that then i'm going to be like tommy. I really feel like you should let nick on a little bit more work. The jury revote afterward you. You never ever had to tell nick that you that he wasn't getting your vote. You could have been out the door thinking. Tommy tried his best but it's not going to be there so i don't love that move from tommy and it does seem like he is getting into some trouble with jackson holly from this point already with nicole dropping tommy's name that's not great and as we talked about this idea that he manifested a bitter jury and now he's kind of in a spot where he kind of needs to win h h wjr and target jackson holly if he does that they're saying to themselves. Oh if he even tries to put us on the block he will never get our jury votes and great for tommy and christie surviving last week in the way that she did sure it might make the bitter the jury more bitter but it also looks real impressive especially if nick goes this week if she was on death's door then she calls nick out survives the week in the nicotine sent home the next week that does not look like jackson holly did it. That looks like what the hell did christie do. How is her own how her pheromones this powerful i think she takes all the credit for it and a a jury. That's trying to vote for gameplay. We'll definitely choose christie over tommy in my opinion so i think that he's really again. He's he's really he's been sitting on a goldmine all season long and it's just been stolen away from him all like all season and now he's just sitting on a few gold coins and he's like oh man man. Try and i'm trying to hold on but it's not looking great so i am still despite all of that going to stay with my six because i do agree brent i think he's probably the second and most likely person to win the game at this point but really i'm starting to think that christie might start to overtaken unfortunately for christie. She's still on the block and there is a chance. She might go home this week so i can't put her above tommy quite yet. Also i think she's still a bigger targeting tommy heading into next week and so on and so forth but i'd it's <hes> tommy tommy stock is dropping for me every single week that he is not turning it around and it's not looking great melissa. Yeah i feel like i am in agreement with you guys on this one. I like the fact that a lot of people see z. Meets seem to trust tommy. Wanna work with tommy even though they really shouldn't <hes> so. I think that's that bodes well for him. However you you know the fact that nick first of all he told me like you said essentially giving him free rein to use any information has against him and not only that but nick does have have information against tommy that tommy's after a jackson and holly and that is saying the knicks knicks obsolete could use however it does tommy's social dame prevent nick from doing that because nick stole life loves tommy wants work with him or whatever or you know nick decided to go and use that information you we don't know yet. It's possible by the end of this week. We're like oh man. Tommy's game is over. It's done for right now. Tommy seems to be in a decent position. <hes> <hes> so you know. I'm going to stick with my six as well because i feel like there's too many chances for this to go wrong you or me to increase score however i don't wanna decreases score because there's also the fact that it is social game has been so rape for him that everybody is like oh. We can't go against tommy. We can't go against tommy. That might change <unk> right now. That's where it is. I i just got a tweet from suzy on twitter. This was sent to you guys as well and it. It blew my mind. Suzy says the perfect showman's named four jolly jolly is macbeth. Bob really take well done suzy. I wasn't talking about the name. I was actually talking about the fact that you actually got taryn to read a deanne like i. It was a real victory there. That's man that's. That's a good one mom macbeth right yeah <hes> that's gonna be the hashtag. The audience agrees with us. The audience goes with a six four. Tommy's what's going to be straight sixes for tommy this week all right. Let's move onto nicole nicole. Oh who got sixers from myself and brent last week five from melissa and the audience. I also start with coal here. Nicole is continuing to be in a great spot. I think this leaving nicole was actually pretty good but but nick leaving this week is kind of bad. I don't love where this puts nicole. I think that she's right to be worried about jackson and holly final four. I think she's right to think that cliff is closer to them than she is. Jackson holly have talked about how they actually would prefer to see cliff in the end with them than anybody else in that includes nicole so she's actually fourth on that list and maybe that changes when they've realized that she's probably easier to be jackson holly. They love cliff. They love them some cliff and they wouldn't. They want to lose to cliff if they're gonna lose to anybody and so does she definitely doesn't want to be down to the four with those people nor does cliff particularly. I don't think it's even worse for her. If that does happen she's losing it nick. She doesn't even really have jess all that much. She still talks to jess but sodas cliff and sodas christie and so she doesn't really have jess and it just doesn't look great her prospects in the game. She's still in a great spot. She's still probably the safest person in the house including cliff but her endgame is looking more precarious than it did even just a week ago and i again. She's going to have to start winning awesome competitions and she's going to have to really really pull some out. Maybe she can be cliff because cliff is being more aggressive in his deal-making potentially going back on them but it's almost looking like she's more likely to be going. The one going against the deals and cliff is okay with that kind of like yeah you go ahead and take that shot for me so i. I'm going down on nicole and and i don't. I still think that she is again. Pretty likely. I think that like jess. She's not just a great chance in the final two but unlike just she's he's a lot more likely to get there and i think has a better has more ability to win some votes to her. 'cause then just does at that point so i'm going to go down to to a five for nicole. If things continue to go against her in the game i will probably continue to move down but right now. I do think that it's a five. There's still a chance chance that that that nick stays this week and that could really save nicole wants he wants he's definitely gone and if she's not able to reposition than it might start to look even worse for her as time goes on so that's where i am brent. You were all sorts of six last week. Where are you this week. Obviously you can tell that. I'm not that happy with nicole's game play. I think it's been pretty shabby and again. She's only has the big brother god's to think that other people are curling worse than she is. I i wish that she would play better than she does and she plays heart too much and as i said before i can certainly respect that as someone who works on his sleeve a lot. I understand where you're coming from nicole but you're actually in the game. It's like hello. You're actually playing the big game. You are in there. I know she finds that crazy like wow. I'm in the big brother house but start plane woman. I'm really sick of the wishy-washy attitude in terms of not being sure what to do not being sure how to move forward as talked about she's losing nick most likely this week and i think you can make a somewhat argument. I think is in the chat talking about it but maybe this is is good for nicole that she's so tied with nick that maybe him leaving her being able to spread our wings a little bit more more could be advantageous for her but it must be you said though she's losing an ally nick by him going home and she's fourth with holly jackson cliff. She's got she's got no bush so i feel like you have to go down a point so i i was the last week as well. I'm going to give this week better nicole yeah and here's the thing i think that like if she was a better player a more aggressive player then then losing nick could be a benefit to her because she can easily start playing the middle in between jackson holly and tommy and christie and she could real just in like pull herenton more aggressively and you know try to pithy sides against each other and really make sure that it's <hes> that you are protected on all on all angles and that you get down to the end with the people that you want in particular that probably mean somebody more along the lines lines of like christy and tommy jackson holly who would choose who's cliff over her but i just don't see her doing that. I think she will probably lose nick and be like well. I guess i guess i gotta just go along with. What cliff wants now. Cliff wants is not necessarily the best for nicole so melissa. What are your thoughts yeah. This is a tough one for me. I'm like teetering on the edge here because i feel like she's in a pretty good position. She's being asked to join. The final four she right now has nick has jazz. People don't really seem to be targeting her. There's bigger fish to fry so that's it's all seemingly very good but i'm becoming less and less confident in her ability to do anything with that position with the people that she has on her side so so it's making me a little nervous not to mention the fact that she's likely losing nick this week who is an ally of hers also that whole the thing where she wouldn't promise that or she wouldn't actually say she was in the final four that kind of hit me in a wrong way because i just was like or do you do in philly she. She's so hesitant now and she doesn't want to commit anything and i feel like that's going to bite her in the end because people want someone who's wants wants to work with you and who wants to move or with you and i feel like she's like i don't know. I don't really want to do anything and that's kind of disappointing so i'm it's. I'm between i'm between keeping at five and going to a four just because i i don't know i really. I want to give her a better score i just i don't know if i have the faith in her anymore to do. What's best for her game but i'm just gonna keep it at a five 'cause. There's a chance to knicks days and there's also a chance even nick those. That's a good thing for her. So i'm sneaky by the audience agrees of five from the audience's welshman straight fives really in a lot of alignment on these these ratings here so far. Let's talk about cliff and we can start with the audience on cliff. The audience gave cliff a six this week. Which is what they gave him last week but i can also also say that cliff received the highest average rating of anybody left in the house <hes> he almost made it seven. He made a seven with me. I'm i'm giving a seven. I gave a six last week and i'm going to bump them up a point. I think he has played really really well this week. I don't think there's anybody in the house. That's playing a better game than and cliff right now. It is by strictly by the fact that i do feel like that. His endgame is his in game. Path is a bit cluttered. I i don't know how he gets to the end. I mean there are few ways we can talk about but i do feel like that is probably a tough go in jackson. Holly are saying we'd like to bring class this now. We'd rather lose to him now. But once clinton nicole or sitting on the back of the final five at the final four might have a different answer that so oh i would give him even a higher score. If if we're not for that fact but week wise i think he's played wonderfully in terms of giving holly jackson. Assurance wants a trust him. His word is good. He still has had to betray anybody. Everybody still thinks that close word is good. He's gotten to what's going to be the final seven having his word intact and still has credibility using his game. Obviously we talked about. I can't remember but maybe it's on podcast. Maybe in the morning update how cliff went to christie and said you know use. Here's that credibility spent some of that credibility to say look. I don't want to call it a go up on the block. If you win. If for you to stay side i you could argue that was a mistake but i'm not going to penalize them too much for that because i feel like that he was just playing with this heart and we all do that sometimes so it's seven for me and i even though i'm giving them a higher score i you don't feel like here's the more likely winner between holly and and tommy or even christie but i feel like i like how he's playing his game in what is in front of them currently all right melissa. This is tough has already have. I don't know if you look at our ratings. We're all oh pretty middling on. Everybody like everyone's kind of in that same house. Yeah no it's true i mean it's kinda surprising. Usually we have like early the past few seasons. We've had you know some people way up there and then a bunch of people down below and then that's that and you know it's interesting that ah even at the end of the game we have equal. Let me ask you this question before you give you rating so. Is there anybody in the house. Currently that would target cliff no i i think the answer is not currently but i do feel like there is still a chance to like the house is is still shining off that he could be targeted but also your point your point stance. He is one of the safest people in the house. Yeah and do you feel like that. He has made any mistakes over the past last week. I think he's made mistakes. Ono sorry sorry i i do actually what what okay go ahead well just the sam a little worried about his reassurances about nicole and then like nicole ends up not i'm worried about nicole ending up earning him with ali jackson thing i wasn't it wasn't this week but it was over the course of since we last talked him talking going to christie and letting her know that him in a core package deal and also him telling nick that he would use him as a pawn before the h h apparently nick misheard this and thought that he was telling him. You wouldn't use him as a pawn. He'd actually said that the other thing and i didn't love that move either but overall. I think you make good points lines. I think that cliff is somebody making the fewest amount of mistakes in the house at the moment and also one of the safest people in the house so go on almost yeah so i mean i i feel good about his position right now. I like the fact that he solidified something with jackson and holly and i think that he's in with nicole. I don't see people you know outright targeting cliff at this point in time which is good and also not only that i think different from my opinion i'm nicole. I do feel like i have faith in cliff. I mean the errors but i do think he has a good head on his shoulders or strategy and so and he's hungry. He's hungry to play the game. I was not i feel she's not hungry to play the game. He's also hungry for whatever i do feel. I do feel pretty good about clip. I it's hard for me because i wanna give him the seven but i'm <hes> i don't know if i want to give him the highest score out of everybody but i mean if he earns the earns it so i'll just give them the seven. It is all right seven from melissa. It's going to be a six for me <hes> i. I i agree with all of the points. I think cliff is one of the smartest people in the house. I think that he is playing one of the best games in the house. <hes> he's started from a lot less than everybody else and he has really been working his way forward but i still have so much concern for how how does he get to the final two. That's still a major thing. I do think that he has made progress. He's made progress in a couple of different ways. Nick leaving is actually pretty good for him because it frees nicole up to be more loyal to him. Nick was also a big competition. Threat locking in this deal with holly jackson is great because because they are much bigger targets ahead of him and even if worst case scenario. Nobody ever takes the shot at them. He can always do it himself or you. Still is an okay chance to win some mental competitions petitions against them in the final five four three whatever not three sorry five or four <hes> the the problem though and he also has made the progress with them in terms of they might now take him over nicole. It's not like a total deadlock situation where they would never take him to the end if they were not taking each other. If jesse yes jackson left i could see him taking cliff over nicole or something along those lines and both nicole and jessie are still in the game which is great he could end up in the final three with them which which is a really really great spot. There's still a long way still long road ahead still a lot of dangerous to navigate still a very fluid game and i'm always he's at such a disadvantage heading into that funnel through competition that it's going to be hard for me to really start art feeling like i think nicole i think cliff has got this so it's a six for cliff for now which isn't going to matter because he will go up to to that seven so there you go. That's the highest average rating of anybody so far excellent all right. Let's let's talk about nick who last week nick got three three and it didn't. It looked like he was about to go home. At that point. In time i think that nick simultaneously increased his odds of winning jury vote and also dramatically increased the target on his back and now looks like he is going home like i talked about with nick before i i i compared him to like not necessarily that he was playing with the strategic acumen of june song but he was playing a similar style of game where everybody knew you what he was doing and they thought he was a scumbag shady and they hated it but they couldn't do anything about it because because of the position it was and nick. I think played too emotionally. He didn't want to be the scumbag. He didn't want people to hate him. He wanted people to like him. He wanted to be honest and because of that he was like no. I am not a scumbag. I'm not playing all sides. These are the people i'm loyal to and the second you do that. You lose the positioning the you no longer are in the spot where people can't touch you because they because positionally they can't do it all the asli always when somebody is in that spot they have people that would rather work with but the second you make that known and not only make it known that you'd rather work with them but that you were deathly loyal to them that tarnishes is everything that you've accomplished up until that point and his emotions in my opinion really trapped him and then he made this terrible mistake with america's prankster prankster. I almost wish i could give him a one but i do think there's still a decent chance survives the week so i'm going to give him a to melissa. What are your thoughts yeah. I mean i totally totally agree. I think that you know he lost his positioning. When you know he wasn't a pretty good position in the house and it's kind of unfortunately it. Was you know oh. He just totally blew it up. Up is on game and then <hes> you know i also think you know the mismanagement of a <hes> <hes> prankster thing wasn't great for him. I do think there is a chance that he stays just because who knows anymore anything it can happen especially when you're up against christie but it's not looking good for him and you know i it is contingent. I think on whether he reveals this information has on tommy to jackson holly however he seems to be very into tommy and it makes it unlikely that he wants he would turn on but if he does the ingrate in these house and that's at that but who knows at this point so i'm going to give him a two as well and i apologize. I've been talking about like do. I think there's a chance for next day. I haven't actually explained why i think that way. I've talked about another podcast but not on this one i think i do is we talked about if if nick throws tommy under the bus and says tommy tommy is coming for you. He told me before the she was coming for you. Tommy is the person that christie named christie approached me. I approach sure whatever it was when she talked about like oh. I talked to somebody else about making kind of making peace with you. That person was tommy. They are really tight. He promised to keep her. That's for a reason that they are working together and they are working against you and i'm willing to make a deal and i will stay true to that deal because i have been honest and that's gotten me in trouble but i have been honest and i i promise you i had that power could put you on the block but i didn't. I will make a deal with you. I promise i will not go after you. I think he would actually stay true to that deal because that's kind on a nick at least at the very least he's more likely to stay true to that. Deal and christie would be and that could get them thinking in a new way right now. They think they're really solid only because they think that tommy and christie are on their side if they are convinced that that's not the case then i do think this vote can flip. That path is very available. <hes> whether or not nick takes it whether or not he executes on it well. That's that's. That's one of the major questions to the major questions there. Of course it still might not work but unlike last week when i felt like i like where is the path in front of christie there was she had to take some dynamite and blow open her own path. There's a path right there for nick and i do you feel like it's possible for him to to walk it and and make it happen so that's that's what i that's what i mean. When i say feel like there's a chance he could stay this week. There is there are roads open open to that to that possible scenario. Yeah i hear you but i'm still given him the paddle. I take your point though i take your point okay but i really do feel like that. He is hindered by the facts but this sort of thing just happened last week. There was a big flip right before the addiction last week and for that to happen again. I feel like people are like are going to say themselves like we're really going to do this again even if he does come with a hail mary what she's shown no ability to do so previously an throwing tommy under the bus which he absolutely needs to do on anti again. You're talking about game play alone. Look at all the advantages he has had this week. He was in a great position before taco tuesday then completely stepped in it when he said into open company because he just didn't want to look like a scumbag in front of jackson and holly when when when christie asked him so. Did you promise safety jackson. I never ramos a._p. The jackson holly the i you know they know that but he actually did promise safety in in and when he went to them and made a deal before the competition he had promised them that <hes> so we'll just say openly to jackson holly you know hey i'm <music>. I'm i'm not with you. Let them know like man like he's totally against this of any wins he wins. H h we're totally going on the buck add to that america's prankster power. He had all the advantages in the world to use the advantage in the one time. We need somebody to tell somebody about power and he doesn't do it. So it's really i mean i just feel like i have to all one on principle alone. I i know that taryn us a one as somebody were completely done with a newbie. There is a way for nick to come back but given in what he's shown me over the past week and his physician going out the door. I feel like you have to go with the one here. All right the audience did go with a two so it's gonna nia to overall for nick and that brings us to christie which i imagine was one of the main choices for a free purchase just in the stock watch over the last week because she was ready to last week and then she stayed it was still kind of a risky by because she is now on the block and she still could go home. She might have stayed at a to if it was looking like christie was the target instead of nick but as of right now that doesn't seem like it's the case brent you did go down to a one on christie last week yes. How are you going to rectify that this week. I'm going to rectify by giving giving her a seven. I really am. I'm going to give her a seven this week. I think she is played masterfully. I think she's been helped by assists. Who's played completely horribly and honestly. This is just how i feel like. I know everybody in their mother bought christie stock. Obviously i did too. It's not gonna gonna do me any good because everyone else did it. That's not where i'm coming from. Look you have to look at the way things gameboy. She's going to stay this week if things stay as they are and if things stay the as they are going into the final seven where holly cannot play for h. o. h. and then she has an opportunity to take her shot. She's oh she's openly said. Look after i'm i'm. I'm the pond. I'm done with it. Be nice to them. I'm going to put them on the h. To tell me i feel like tommy would love to have crecy h. o. h. and do it for him so he would have to do it himself himself. I also feel like if clipper nicole h h that tony is more likely to go home instead of christie in that scenario so i i feel like she really has a shot to win this game. I said earlier that i feel like tommy is the more likely a snow second run rob in terms of or runaround concerns of people most likely to win the game but i think christie's he's number three. I really do like her. Chances to win the game. She certainly capable of getting there. She's played well. She's in here's the thing you can argue about my score but she's given me what i really needed to see from. Her back was against the wall and she was hungry as how to try to find a way out of it i loved them showing that after she survived had the vote and we all knew she was safe at that point then her going back to the bedroom and exhaling and say thank you thank you you can see how much this really means to her. So i the guys she can win the game. I'm sorry i don't know if you guys don't like the chad is really coming or but she is going into a week where she survived the block again if she gets to at the end i have to record number one in terms of all the people remaining in the game as far as if they get to the end there when i think kristie number one out of anybody remaining in the game if she gets to the end the game she's winning and i have to also the clinical won't come after the tommy if jackson wins. That's the one person i think that would really go after <hes> <hes> christie and with only four people voting he would have tiebreaker power and he'd have the power to center out so that's the one person you you really have to worry about. I like where she's at right now and i'm excited to see what happens. She makes me smile. I like chris that i this i have to imagine. This is a record one to seven. I think that's the biggest jump. I've think we've ever seen in all. Honestly i think maybe i seven might also be the highest rated person. A person has ever been while on the block so setting accuracy accuracy here. Okay okay that one one tells us. You're not always the best printing those things well. That's where i'm at right now. I do agree with my assessment that she is of the people remaining if she gets to you the end she is the most likely winner of the game. I think she has the most winter equity out of everybody gets there. I agree. I think that <music> i'm not smoking crack on that. No i think that she has the hardest time against tommy. Tommy gets sis and jack but but apart from that. I do think she probably. I think she probably beats tommy at this point and that's one of the reasons why lower on tommy now. I think she'd has on the she has made a great this this move saving herself from the block. It's a great resume builder. It really makes her look impressive now. She might lose jackson and holly's votes if she's the one that comes after them if tomlin's the one that comes after them then maybe he's the one that loses those votes who knows but but that's a that's a tricky situation. They could end up mattering if it comes down to her versus somebody else but i i agree. I think that she has become the front runner ineffectual to situation and but for me the problem right now is that she is on the block and she still might go home and even if she does survive this week which doesn't look like she will <hes> heading into next week. I do feel like she has a strong likelihood of going home there too. Even if nicole and cliff are like well. We'll put up tommy and <hes> <hes> and christie. I feel like they won't mind too much which one of them goes home and i think that if they start to think about it more especially especially like let's let's maginness an area where tommy gets blown up this week and the tension between tommy and jackson holly <hes> reaches its peak heading into the following coming week. I don't think nicole and cliff are as concerned with tommy as they were before. I think the reason they want to go. After tommy right now is that they're concerned about his relationship to jackson in holly but if tommy no longer has a relationship with jackson holly. I think that they are much more willing to be like well. Christie's now the bigger threat because she it has a connection to jess tommy doesn't have and she's also very scary in the game and so on and so forth so i think that she could absolutely leave next week especially if she's on the block next next to tommy or even somebody like just so i think that she still has a long road ahead of her but she's quickly becoming one of the players i have the most amount to faith in when it comes to surviving and and so if i if i you know all outside situations excluded. I'm if i'm just looking at who do i have more faith into save themselves on the block at this point. I'm starting to say i think i think i have more faith in christie to survive than i do tommy and so i don't want to discount that either when when looking at a potential situation moving into next week but just to survive this week i and she has to like get through some of the the tough terrain in my opinion. I'm down at a four on christie right now just because she can go home this week and i don't want to be stuck at a seven when she's walking out the door. I think four is fair for now if she survives the week and she's not on the block next week then this could definitely move even further up for me but but right now there's still too much immediate danger that she has to wade through which is a lot a lot more than most of the other players in the house. Oh so melissa. Where do you stand on this one. Yeah i honestly thought i was going to have to defend myself or my or who's already already planning like okay. I guess if i'm gonna say because i know people are gonna come for me because i was gonna give her four it but you know i agree with everything razors saying look last week when she stayed that was amazing. I thought it was fantastic. We thought she you know we had like a little okay. Maybe she might say who knows what can happen. Anything could happen but like the odds are she wasn't going to stay and she pulled that out of thin air and i was very impressed with it. I would be happy with christy win in the end because i do think she played a good game and i think she's hungry for it. It and that's what i really care about. I mean you know when she's crying in. She's in the bedroom like brent said afterwards being like thank you thank you like. I can't believe it like that. That makes me happy that she stayed because can you see any situation where sister's doing that. We're like oh god god and still here after christie left sort of unlike doc being here mel without christie nonni brown's. I'm just hitting a wall. I literally like i mean gene. I love players that want to be there and that are hungry for the win and that's why i am. I'm absolutely you know wanting. I'd be happy with the christie win. Absolutely i'm glad that christie stay this week or sure. <hes> she was amazing. He is on the block first of aw there's a huge chance that she goes home this week. Not only that she she she she makes his whole deal with jackson holly about like albee upon. I don't care like what everyone and i'm like yeah kristie get. I'm like you like you. You promise your life when you're when you're in that position you've got to do that but then the second the next week calms and and she's they're like okay well. Let's a year end of the deal. We kept you. She's like oh i didn't. I didn't think this was actually going to happen. It's like whoa. What did you think that's what you told them. You would be willing to do like even if in your mind you're like. I hope they don't put me up upon you can't say that to them. Because that makes them not trust you so she's already making people. Well not try to to just celebrate their. I feel like that we come after people so many times for just like people are like well. I'm gonna use you as upon and then and and then <hes> pushing back. I feel like it was okay for her to push back. I was just more concerned with how she push back yeah but also at the same time like part of the deal was that like she that will be upon and they were like okay. You'll be upon like i wouldn't have promised to be upon. I know you everything but like. I don't know if that's something i would have promised you should push back when there's has reason to push back but when you literally just made a deal to say no. I'll absolutely go on the block. Don't push back then it makes you look like you're backing out on your deal well after they upheld their end of the deal. It's like okay now that you've given me what i want like now. I don't know if i'm gonna give you a you want like it. Just it doesn't look good so you know as much as i want to give christie about her or i think that i am i'm waiting because she is on the block this week. She still a big target target. It's not like she's made any headway with people in in terms of like making people trustor like or becoming a new alliance or anything like that so <hes>. I hope hope that next week. I give her a better score but right now. I'm trying to be a little conservative considering. We gave her a to last week yeah. I i would predict that if two weeks from now kristie is still in the house she's probably the highest rated person in the game but rocky couple of weeks wchs and rockiest. I think she has the hardest time surviving the next few weeks apart from nick of anybody in the house so that's right now. There's a lot of danger here. The audience is more on our side than brent side. I i will say melissa. The audience went with a five four christie. Yes so a little bit higher than us but lower than the audience was going going to be like well. We hate christie is that we're going to give christie of wine or two. It's like okay that's enough. We have a real so i'm glad that this along with maybe abi the jest week this is one of the bigger jumps i think from the audience from a to a five jumped more and that's so i mean as it stands a two to a five. That's a huge jump and this is going to have a big impact on the the stock. Watch prices here so let's let's maybe let's check some out. You guys you guys want to check the leader of christian all right. There's gonna be some high scores here all right here. We go leaderboard holy shit. Ah lou tortoise takes the lead here with thirty four hundred dollars christie's. I realized how it happened happened because of the way we do our price scene. It's always like the you know this week's score over last score so it's like the numerator denominator and then when i gave her a high score and it ended up on the audience helped as well. I must say it's a five and she was she was rated. Price is three dollars last week but she was rated a a two last week so her this week's rating over last week's rating was like you know five over two which is like massive multiplier and the ad adds that the fact that her price was already three dollars last week and she went up to eleven. I'm sorry what was it eight. Dollars should have eight dollars. My goodness as is amazing maximum increase. Unfortunately alaska may here. <hes> did not go in on what what look you're not paying attention on thursday liska. May what happened well i look. I do think this was a reasonable choice again. Christie is on the block this week and absolutely absolutely could have been the target this week if cell before thursday. Why wouldn't you do like we knew by thursday you know or was it wednesday. Maybe wednesday night that christie was going to stay at that point. Why wouldn't you buy christie is what i'm asking when she was priced at three hundred by the time by twos by the by today kristie we could christi the veto could've been could've won the veto. It's kristie versus just on the block. Christie is definitely going home. I don't feel she's going lower than you know no no and if she stays at two you lose a big chunk of your your money. That's true. I feel like oh whatever and since everybody was doing it if you're the one person that didn't do it then <hes> the new basically it's it was basically it was a risky play but it was <hes> you know the alaska might win for it didn't pay off alaska may falling to do twenty sixth place blow me ring and blue. Tortoise is going to take the lead there with noodles in second second place so i'm gonna shoot up a bit here to twenty third slowly making my way back from that dumb forgetting to sell the steak then then kirsten here in thirty six with a thousand and polio without thousand and we then go down on in mary. Mary did not buy into christie. Mary went with some other people. How is she sprint over melissa. Where's brent is you're just above love mary there. Yes seven seven three nine fabulous. All the way down there. Then going on. Kristie doesn't doesn't look like it now. I got some christie you pot eight christie exactly i bought like a hundred and fifty or a c. and like i had already pretty high chris anderson seller so i i currently have double bronze money. Yeah whatever good job here and we'll see how the seasons shake salads. This was like a no brainer to me buying christie. I i felt like compelled by christie. 'cause i felt like you know her. Price was already so allow even if she was looked likely to leave this week. I thought you know between the fact that how well she had played also the fact that there's always a chance dance for her to stay. I know i just feel like there wasn't a lot to lose by going on kristie this week and a lot to be gained. If things work out the way that you wanted to so i feel like it was probably about a can't use them a chats like saying. I'm never ever should brent trade stocks for real. Would you would not know this but previous me becoming a dealer and come back into table dealing as i as i do right now when i first started dating my partner i was day trading for like a year and i actually did okay but i definitely stupid decisions here so i'm not always crazy kenny. I don't know i don't know if anybody would have predicted that. Brentwood would've gone up to a seven on christie either this week that maybe the province when i love her. I feel like she's playing great and i'm psyched to see her. I just she's alpha awful woman and i'm just here for it. She's just she's giving me. She's like vanessa. She's giving me everything on. I wanted to see you in a big brother. Places like rachel she's i. I'm here for the hungriness all right so i asked you to rate the episodes of big brother this week and you said six point one which is up from six from six the previous week rating feeds at five point nine which is down a bit from last week six point two from last week and then the season as a whole <hes> a five point seven up from the five point five of last week. We were still slowly climbing up that scale on the season as a whole. I really feel like by the end of the season. I think we're going to get up to like if things continue to play out well. I think we'll get up to at least a seven for this season. I feel that's that's how i'm feeling right now. I think the season season right now is like an eight or a nine maybe eight and then the season before was that like a four three and so i feel like i feel like we'll get to a seven. I feel that there's enough good stuff here. In the second half the season been two hundred good job editing guys have to really hand it to them in terms of the what they've been able to put together from an editing standpoint because i felt like the big brother canada always you know too much shade at them but fall short in this particular avenue and so i'm psyched right to see that the editors of big brother u._s. are really using sunday episode to fill in the gaps from what we're missing. We don't normally get that yeah. No i agree. I think if it's so important because i feel like it's it would be just as easy to be like okay well that weeks over so let's just move onto the next week okay segments. Let's have a good time but i liked that. They listed on all the details. It's been going on and look why people make these choices in why certain people stay like that's so crucial <hes> to understanding people's position in the game where the game is heading. If we know like if we can take a look back and see why someone stayed over someone else i feel like it's important and it's hard to fit that all in on a thursday night live show so i've said it before i'll say it again. I love what they're doing with this sunday episodes where they're going back and filling in the details which is such a stark contrast. I just feel so not to say that it's perfect because it's far from perfect perfect but i have so much more faith in big brother to sh- in the u._s. to show me the things i wanna see then big brother canada where it's just like a <hes> like if i see even one tenth of what i wanna see i'm like oh we saw something so that is just experience or <hes> i think they just have more faith in the game play which is odd to say <hes> but in comparison to the other show yeah rank the players from your favorite to least favorite we have cliff in the number one spot maintaining his his shifted number one spot over coal but nicole is not far behind in the number two you man this is interesting so do you think is in last place here. Neck now jess yes. It's jess <music>. Jessica's plays followed by nick and then christie christie third to last and <hes> jackson is one two three four five fifth overall overall. It goes cliff nicole holly tommy jackson christie nick and jess lift nicole holly ali tommy jackson chris christie nick just got it. Oh so good at these calms with rob. I heard him on the sunday night episode. He doesn't understand why there's so much vitriol on social media about christie and i know that some people are not loving the fact that she's in there with a <hes> you know arguably the childhood friend in tommy in someone who obviously <hes> was related to somebody she was dating for seven years. All that's true but i did you feel like that even if that i would movie taryn news person who said this last night that even if that wasn't true i still feel like people would be as means <music> christie as they are like even if she wasn't there with tommy even if she hadn't dated his aunt for seven years even if they weren't childhood friends even if tommy wasn't even in the house i still feel like people would still feel this way about christie and i have to say get a life people because she she's doing her best and she. She's got her own quirks. We live for this kind of stuff on t._v. Whether you we love to hate her or he just hate her out right i. I don't think she's entertaining like i feel like she's just as easy saving a lie on this shower and you know yeah sure she's dramatic and she cries a lot and whatever but so do i so yeah. I'll say it again. I feel feel like christie is absolutely going to have be sort of like once. The season is over. People look back on it and be like arm arm member christie. Oh yeah that's fine with all the manifestations in a universe with she was an alternate like i. She's a frigging all. She's like the clearing away. The person who's the all star of the season to me without we how with how much like love vanessa gets. I remember people really hate it but like when you like there are there are annoying parts to vanessa and christy and lots of player when you're watching them in the moment but then when you're not having to watch them twenty four seven you remember the good parts you remember the things the good things they brought you and the little annoyances says they don't drag them down as much i think i i also think it i think you guys mentioned this on the other podcast but i think it also depends on how she behaves leaves one. She comes out of the house. You know if she's fun and funny about it like caitlin is kind of takes it all in stride then people will love her and know like like early so like are a lot more and all you know. Get over all this like crazy. Hey whereas if she comes out and kind of elena and i feel like that what does not end up going well for her. So there's a very there's varying degrees of how this can go but i i would hope hope that she comes out and can kind of take this in stride and everyone can get over this. Actually she'll be attention to beloved and quickly learn to ignore the hate. She's going to have to in the way she'll suffocate but i i'm hopeful that she will want. She's out of the house and people say the biggest thing that they hate about christie's then. She's a hypocrite. I'm like big brother player. Who isn't a hypocrite. There's a lot of people in the house are hypocrites when asked what is the reason you hate christy. It was like she's a hypocrite and she it is like overly emotional and annoying like i feel like you could say that about me. I'm like oh god. I he'll be saying that about me. They're all traits that you can like the job thing that this this stuff about people like i remember like the funny quirky stuff. I'm incredibly used to watching people being hypocritical on the feeds that it's really not if i wanted to use that against people then i'd be against against almost everybody he's but i feel like people maybe sometimes <hes> selective about the already dislike somebody and then that becomes a reason because it's an easy reason to powell stacks reminding me. That's my tea. At the beginning of the season that cat got somebody bounced from the cast because <hes> she had leaked the fact that she was going to be on big brother this this woman i was jenner there. That's my christie ended up on the show so we have katz a thanks for christie allegedly but but i actually hate that because i think we would have gotten christie on different season and that would be much better because tommy wouldn't have been there all right so who was the person the best person for holly to have targeted this week for her game. People said christie was the right move. Not nick in fact tommy is the second best move and nick was the third best move. I tend to i agree. I think the i think that the right christy and tommy are bigger threats to holly's game. Then nick is at this point especially if she makes some kind of deal with nick at this point going into the week. I have to say that. I feel like they're all sort of interchangeable. In terms of nick and krisztian. Tommy i mean because nick is more pliable than maybe more. Maybe you're right now. Who is the best reason for nick to have targeted this week for his game him. He also had a nomination. People said jackson was his best shot and i tend to agree with that one as well as i think neither of the people in power made the complete correct decision decision for the games though they did say christie was the second best person to target for nick and then the others were not really in contention. I asked about cisse's his jury. Vote wanting to the players in order of who you think they are most likely to a for system. Oh four two was least likely to vote for tommy at the top but only barely which i disagree with people saying that the christie is right behind tommy. I think tommy is number. One of the bullet based on insistance exit interviews based on her relationship with tommy all season long. It was always tommy tommy tommy and she hated christie for a good couple of weeks before four. She finally came back around on her. I definitely feel like this is a vote in tommy's a favor if they are in the jury together the other votes that i think might be swayed in <hes> in christie's favor and that's my opinion on this melissa yeah. I mean i could see that for sure. I could also see i could see a situation where this is like. Chrissy didn't vote me out. You know and like uses that as like okay what i'm going to christie christie. Whatever in her injury. I'm pretty sure she was asked directly like do you blame tommy for ruining absolutely not yeah. I mean you could be ms remembering. How maybe i do see a situation where you know the more they think about it or like. I could've still been in the house at christie's the only one who didn't betray me. I don't know i see zero point this. She's always liked talking about always like tommy better than his hated christie or disliked her for a portion of the season but when you get to the end and you have a chance to vote it's may become a a appealing for sister vote for christie and that she's the one who campaigned and got sick. Sow al and you kind of want to give person your vote like they did. It sound like sisto. I feel like she could be influenced by people in the jury i take your point that we don't honor roane. We'll do because on around like okay. That's very different than what people would influence her like. She do whatever people influenced her to do. Yeah i mean for sure i mean i think she definitely is influenced by jack. I also personally feel like jack is is going to remain in pro tommy. That's that's my view on that autumn jackson christie fan right and this is a universe where tommy and christine end up in the final which i think is very likely right now one of them being there is certainly like we but not both of them so hopefully we won't even have to see that 'cause i. It's tommy and christie of the i don't i don't i don't want to lose so then they feel. Nick is the next most most likely which yeah i see that then holly cliff. It's really hard to anybody other than tom your christie yeah i agree jess nicole and then jackson last which it's probably fair probably fair. She holds a grudge. I wanted to know who you voted for it to be america's prankster forty eight percent said nicole thirty three percents that cliff ten percents nick pretty closely resembled my poll on twitter so not super surprising how you feel about the americas prankster twist <hes> zero being you hate it one hundred being you'll love it. It got thirty. One negative people do not like america's prankster. I'm not sure any twist. This season has broken like fifty percent. It's been a terrible. I guess we have to be thankful that it's not as powerful was the hacker where the hacker could do all they could make the nomination before asia age and they could take a veto player and they could cancel a vote like lee at least it stopped at pick one nominee and that's it so whatever i asked. Do you think there will be a jury member. Returning to the game whether via a battle back or buyback or vote back or whatever and the vast majority of the audience ninety three percent said no they do not think a jury member will be returning to the game. Only seven percent said yes so that is correct. I hope as well i asked asked. If you think there'll be a double eviction. This season brent seems to be on record saying he does not think they're going to do a double action. Only he has about thirty percent of the audience behind him on that one about thirty eight says no there will not be double of action. This season live seventy percent say yes. They do think there will be a couple of action yup like i said there is a way for them to do a double addiction and for this not to be a reset in and just have a normal eviction this thursday and then like remembering in in every season since i guess season ten they have always gone from five to three in basically two days. It was at that special tapes in non live the vixen on tuesday i think in airs on wednesday and then they'd have another addiction on thursday if they don't do that this year and just go from five to four and four to three in normal weeks like in years pass then i do feel like they can do a double eviction if they wanted you want but i still don't think that they're going to have on this year all right and finally finally who do you want to be victim this week actually really neck and neck here. A fifty five percent say christie. They would like to see evicted did this week forty five percent. Say nick is the person they would like to see. Leave this week so still the majority of the audience would prefer christie to go yeah yeah. I don't know what those people are thinking. I guess i guess they're like speaking about the last pre game relationship in the house then i take their point on like nick is such a horrible guy most the time that i really don't like if he stays then i feel like there's a good chance you could win. The game appealed say christie's spot in terms of like third most likely to win and i don't so at the point where i'm hoping tommy goes next week so that we can deal with these pre. Existing relationships and christie can stand the game and be whatever a finger she is going to be for the rest of the game. I still don't really the major factor that that keeps me from like really pulling for christie. St is the pre existing relationship with tommy. We talked about this a little bit on twitch stream that having pre existing relationship with somebody else on the cast has historically been incredibly significant when it comes to your overall placement in the house basically any to any time time there have been pre existing relationships in the house. One of those people has at least made the final two almost every single time the only time that wasn't the case was i believe big brother five with the initial twin twist but but even then you had you had cowboy and the comas who didn't know each other but we're related and then any other time one one of the people who either one or two made it to final two may was a pre existing relationship and then even in celebrity big brother when you had taymor and candy who didn't like each other had had beef but they still knew each other they were able to work that to their advantage and one of of them one the game like it is so so seriously significant <hes> having that it's a major advantage anybody that wants to present and those statistics. I'd love to see them because it's it's. It's really really a big deal and it's really unfortunate because i would love to see kristie without without tommy in the game and i think that'd be a lot more fun. That'd be a lot more comfortable rooting for but at the same time i want. I'm looking at this cast in everybody left. There's not anybody that's really clean when we're looking at kristie knows tommy. Tommy knows christie holly new cat cliff if was evicted. Nicole hasn't really done much yet. Just jess jackson and nick is about to go home right so it's like doc jackson holly kind of knew each other. He followed her on instagram. That's what he said but also like. She knew that he had like. I feel like there was more more than just something in there that they're not quite saying think. Maybe they shot it on instagram. I don't know but i right. There is some state at her house or she stayed at his house at one point. I don't know i'm free game but i would say that's. It's not as significant as some of the others but still lean something something to see so that's just my view on that. <hes> anything else that you guys want to bring up here before we wrap this up. No i'm pretty psyched about the game like i said just really psyched about. What's going to happen really good again. Clinton clip nicole have a free shot win this week and they don't take it fine if they do say. Could i still feel like bobby fine after they tried to go after tommy and christie presumably <hes> jackson holly of really made a turnaround to me in terms of being ruble and the game highly also helps is reliability. I feel like i really like holly as i said before i really like vibe and i'm just see how this this whole season turns out and i don't feel like it's necessarily the competitions also still like that. There's so much gameplay happening between the lines aliens in terms of social relationships and what people can get other people to do and what they can't get them to do and trying to talk to them about what they believed. Their best move is i. I really psyched to have this much great stuff happening at the end. Yeah i feel like we've i was really down on the beginning getting a half of the season and i feel like we've come to a really interesting and game where we don't know what's going to happen and there's a lot of movement and it's it's been really cool so i have no idea what's going to happen and at this point for the most part i'm i'm happy with everybody who has been playing who is still left in the game besides just right now but just makes the move takes out jackson. You know i gotta get some props you know maybe she is just purposefully sitting back then just bursting out <music> strong players who knows but you know i'm just saying i have been very impressive. Everyone there. I there's really no one now. This is gone. There's really no one who i would be like absolutely no real ruin. The game is ruined if they win. It's awful you know. There are some people who i prefer not to win but there's nobody that i would be like. I've lost all faith. If they went so yes and to clarify i do i did did forget. That's not the big other nine. I can't remember who was the who's the there was a dating couple. Title nine is not my job is i forget i forget if the if the pair and big brother nine and made it far enough a to qualify for that might be one of the other exceptions but apart from that i think everybody else everything else works and i'm not saying that every pre existing relationship has made the final two it was was was ryan and where he did make final two. That's what i thought so so that that does also still count point guys. Why was i i didn't wanna. I didn't wanna skip over and i'm not saying that every pre existing relationship has made it obviously there were plenty in bieber eight and big brother six and so forth that it did not make the final two that's just because not when there's more than three pre existing relationships not all of them can make the final two but one of them did so now that is that is the situation there. I would love to see the stats on that. I there have been some great people posting some fun. Statistical analysis analysis is while. You're looking for that comment from c._w. So glad brandon. You're giving christie. Her props on other podcasts not so much and i kind i've gotten tired of that so you're welcome. I'm here for you. All user gold v dixon on red posted a little article plus statistically statistical analysis of the diversity in big brother and actually mentioned that we had talked talked about it earlier in the season and did a study on that very interesting stuff. I recommend people check that out all right. I think we're good so so thank you for joining us this week. Make sure you tune into american ninja warrior. The biggest finals started tonight's very fun. It's going to be a big one. You can start right now. You don't need anything else. It's it's a tournament style thing now. They're just they're going to try to beat all four stages stages and i that's what i love about. The finals ninja warrior is that they had hit a buzzer if they don't have the buzzer they're out. That's how it works. I'm so psyched about that. Also make sure to join us on wednesday night and my friend came tina from sequester season two is going to be joining us and i have been campaigning for her to be on the show for a while so obviously i am going to be with her on wednesday nights and you guys will have a great time. She she is a big fan of the show watches the feeds and knows what she's talking about so it's going to be a lot of fun yes and so if you watch american injury injury or even if you if you don't wanna watch the actual you can tune in to myself and lead a talking about the show on the american injury or podcast that is fun to check get out and i will be back of course tomorrow morning at eleven a._m. Eastern to update you and everything that happened today. On the big brother twenty one live feeds and then as brennan said wednesday night. We'll be live and thursday eh well of course as always so that i believe is what we got for. You can find me on twitter at twitter to turn on strong in find me on twitter at armstrong. Brent that one lucky gay melissa is at its melissa three three of those as three of them. Sometimes people put too. That's not enough. It's wrong. Sometimes we will vote for too. 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Big Brother 21 Friday Aug 9 Morning Update

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Big Brother 21 Friday Aug 9 Morning Update

"Every morning morning gary yes again all this john on angie roger that he could do tomorrow. We'll do it again <music>. Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for august ninth. I'm heroes turn armstrong and with me today how you doing. I'm doing well. I'm here to talk about the receipts. I'm here to talk about the invoices. We have to pay this week and i'm just here to talk about what happened yesterday well. It's a very unfortunate situation but i have some clips into show of you on some podcasts <hes> you've said some things that people have disagreed with in the past especially some things about bagels the spa the pronunciation of bagels uh-huh bangles has to jeez in it not one a deodorant gate. You know clip on about the seat but you know what i'm like. I'm sorry i'm sure everyone knows where i was at. If i could take some of it back i wouldn't take it back because i am not that person who said the back jackets. We are here to update when everything that happened yesterday. On the big brother twenty-one live feeds it was day fifty one in the house and we've got some stuff to talk about here. We we had some happenings before the eviction. We have some happenings after the eviction lots to speculate on especially with this field trip coming up so plenty to talk about here. We started the day with cliff. He was finally talking to the cameras a little bit again. He was very excited that jack would be going coming home. Cliff really really pumped up about this. I think that as we talk about close game throughout the day we've been talking about how it's been worrying how much he's been leading on jack and this whole deal situation obviously throughout the day yesterday he needed to let them down and let them know that he will not be voting to keep jack and do it in a way that doesn't make him a big target. Get moving forward that was very important for cliff and he waited waited until yesterday until eviction day to do it. Part of why i think he did that was because he was worried that if he if he let that way all on anybody else's shoulders they might actually flip and keep jack. He did not want that to happen he was. It's very very important for him. That jack goes home this week and that's what he talked about to the cameras <hes> even if the screws me over moving forward just getting jack out is the most important thing this and this week if jack stays than whatever screw everything yeah he this point doubling down on what he wanted to happen we key but i'm up and he ended up having a backup. Does them all at where he can do that and honestly it was a hard position shen the c._n._n. Because i feel like being obviously you're getting what you want it. You've been playing from the bottom. So are you finally come up moment. You feel good. You're taking that in five then at the same time. He feels like yeah. This is something that only he could potentially shoulder or he wants shows others. Don't have you so that you know. It's della the way he seats. It are the problem being is that when you wait till the last second like this you know letting someone hang on a lot of false hope that could end up hurting and and yes there is a rhythm to the big brother house. The rhythm is that you want to be in people's best best graces on thursdays that sort of a wednesday thursday friday. I'm in people's good graces then you can so you can lay off depending on what happens with vito you can then kind of like you know then. You can piss people off a little bit. It's not as bad if you have to drop bad news on. It should be monday afternoon. After the veto ceremony at that is the best time to piss people off so that you can then spend the next few hugh days trying to get back in their good graces for that wednesday thursday friday swing <hes> so this is not ideal timing on close part no and especially now that the jury phase has officially begun this is kind of where you want to try and everyone that leaves the house i would good taste in their mouth about as we saw and as we're gonna talk about it seems like cliff stock kind of starts going down a little bit as we get closer and closer to the eviction and people are more and more heated about the fact that well we thought we were going to have them but now we don't have them and yes so cliff does let jack and the rest of them know that he won't be voting to keep jack now. He does a pretty decent job of it with jack with tommy and with christy. Jack says he understands talk. Cliff basically says look. I weighed out the pros and cons and you're just too good jack. I can't be you. I hope you can respect that. Jack act does respect that he appreciates the honesty. Everything's fine. He tells chris christie is fine with it. Tommy is fine with he said what he's fine with it. Apulia emotionally mature reaction is not something we'd expect from the other person that is told no way who's the other person says oh yeah. I usually forget furniture and acknowledged yeah yeah. Zing assist does not right like will be pounding the drums till the cows come home all night. She does not like this cliff f._m. Over s cliff tantrum tantrum tantrum angry rant angry rant yeah. This is pace <hes> she's taste. She is so she's she's so little really angry that she is shaking. It is ridiculous how upset she is. She can't even look at him right now. It is not okay. How could he do this. You wanna piss off sis. There's two things you can do and both of them are playing the game you play the game. You piss her off. You want luxury. Comps your best friend. That's that's that's just for oriented. Show yeah not okay with this and cliff tries to explain it to her but she is just issue yeah. She is just not not having not having it so that's something that cliff he he's. He knew this would happen. He knew assists would be pissed but he went through with it anyway. You took the heat and might come back to bite him. We'll have to wait and see about that jack. Once once he finds out that cliff is not going to be voting to keep him goes all right last hail. Mary shot here time to black male cat. He pulls cat into the room and <hes> he's hey. Hey hey look i've got i've got a pitch free now. I was thinking the other day about how you knew about the flip cliff and how you voted in the way that we wanted you to so that you can stay on that signed. You know all of that stuff and i was. I was remembering about like how that information is out. Take jackson has information so it is highly and so i i i i wouldn't want. I wouldn't want just to find find out about that. You know i just feel like if you if you voted to keep me i would promise to hold onto that hold onto the hold onto that make sure sure just doesn't find it. I'm just i'm just worried for you. I i don't want you don't want just to find out i don't want. I don't want that to happen knew this was coming and she's just going to spend like a half an hour. Just like playing super dom as she's like what is clear is cliff. Nonvoting with you know no cliff is not voting with me it's like are you sure i'm one hundred percent. Sure cliff is not voting with me. Okay but are you sure cliff is voting on on still. I know i keep asking but like. Are you sure he's not voting with you. I'm telling you cliff is non voting with me. Cliff is not voting with me. I need your vote. <hes> okay. I just really thought cliff was voting with you. No no no no not cliff no he's not. He's not a vote okay. So who are the votes. It's jess not jess jeff as an okinawa sorry. It's it's you know you're not voting tommy christie cliff cliff no not cliff okay no not cliff. So who is it again insists hey can i can. I tell us about this. No the point is to not. I mean look you can tell you can tell jess about you wanting to vote to keep me but you probably wouldn't want to tell her about the others the other stuff. She's like what other stuff knowing about the vote vote flint. Oh i forgot about that yeah well. I i yeah. I'm just not sure this went on for a very long time. Yeah i'm by far my favorite conversation of old talk. I'm it's it is bookmarked on. Check it out. This is the type of mental torture that i enjoy jack is on his way out and is walking in his final line of no matter how dumb she's like no matter how much he's not getting it. I can't snap because i still need her votes to figure a way out of this doesn't work my the best line though was i'm selling my soul to you. Your your soul to me. I'm not the devil fir-first perfect. This was the exact exact amount of back and forth. You wanted of between a lost cause and i talked about this. I was watching onstream. I was talking about this. Is this is perfect. Perfect encapsulation who jack is like he has this sort of quiet intensity at first. That's like all right so here's what i'm doing and he's trying to. He's literally destroyed a black mailing cat which is not a typical big brother strategy. Let me tell you and he's but he's blackmailing yeah but he's trying to like portray this to be like hey. I'm doing you a favor look. I wouldn't want just to find out. I'm going to help you out with this like he's not. He can't even be up front about the fact that he's blackmailing her. He has to still pretend to be the good guy and and so he has this quiet intensity and the more that cat continues to play dumb the more frustrated he what i'm telling you. Is that you i need to vote with me and then that's how it's gonna work. Okay most of this get that when you're on the phone with someone with bad connection. What did you say. What did you buy the third time forget. It would only talk and that's your friend. This is something that you're not even really like friends with and is jack. Who's an intense person so like he's getting that same vibes but he's getting angry and anger but he really really can't say it because he can't afford it at this point even if he knows he's kind of as a foot in the door to go out. He still is trying to whole cat so jack does not feel this went well and <hes> the things that did not go particularly well. He also talks with nick about cliff. Not voting with him about the cat doesn't seem like she's going there. Nick says cliff probably is not voting with you because he wants to stay with nicole. Nicole is not not on board as well nick again not trying to throw nicole under the bus or clip for that matter in my opinion but very much doing so and a lot of ways but but he's also going to be very messy in general so jack is like. Can you talk to nicole for me. Can you get nicole onboard all right. Let's do it nick goes to the storage room. He talks doc nicole. Nick says jack has gotta go. He is too good. This is exactly why jack has to go. This is ridiculous oh man and him and then he goes out of storage directly to jack and he's like yeah. I don't know about nicole. I don't think it's i don't think it's working nick. How're doing what his week's agenda was which <hes> just float just float through which you need but also funnel way too much information back and forth and kind of you know. He's having fun with it honestly at this point. I'm good here on their play. A little bit of game assure aides. It must be fun. After you come you know that's the rights and lose bella and you're in shambles and we finally he thinks he thinks he's found the perfect putting this game so well by feeling this way. He's doing way more than he needs to. As far as flow goats so tommy tommy jack and christie are going to start speculating about like okay so cliff is is not not on board. Nick is now not ah tommy speculates well. You know what i bet nick. This confirms nick cliff cat and nicole are all in alliance. I have no idea idea where this came from. I think it's because nick has talked about really liking nicole cliff and he was talking talking about not so much now but the fact that cat is also declining the deal kind of puts her in that same category again nick not trying a to throw these people under the bus but inadvertently doing so by saying that he trust them in protecting them to some extent so i think that's probably why <hes> these four lumped into group no idea why he doesn't think just as a part of it that doesn't make any sense to me but it's just random group. He threw out there. Sometimes that's how big brother works just four random names go out there and then because it was said and sort of accepted immediately now it is becoming coming real theory so immediately. Jack goes from like zero to one hundred. He was like being cool guy like understanding. What am i going to do to you. Nick is playing both sides. This is stupid. The only reason not going the only reason i'm going home because i refuse to play decides i'm honest. Interest is dumb stupid nick. Oh my god there are a bunch of liars and cheats yeah this this was this is jack. We know this is when he finally snaps after getting all the rejection throwing us face which a guy like josh is in use to and thinks thinks some is beneath him to reject how dare you reject and now all that anger is gonna start coming out. It's finally hit like i'm done. It's done so this guy's been nice to my face. I'm not getting what i need from him. This has been nice by facebook. You'll think about it all the way to now not going to give me what i need. This person i had information valuable why she she not china kate what i'm giving her which is not get the information out. Gimme the vote that stupid. She's being stupid. Everything jacksonville has to go his way. None of it is and it's all all happening at the same hour so he's not so that happens about the rest of the day there we you get to the eviction and jack is in fact evicted by a vote of what was six to two. Tommy did end up voting against jack. He knew where the votes are. Gonna fall christie insist and of voting for him and jack goes out to julie roasted. This is everything we want it to four weeks. I feel like since all of this controversy is started from when we won. Everyone's wanted to fifteen aaron moment of they wanted them to get some kind of come up and it was kind of poetic justice that jack is the first one of the bunch to come out and and have to deal with this and nothing was left onset. Everything that i kinda wanted to be looked at and shown was shown and is expected hera. He answered back in the most jack way possible. Just like oughta make little jokes controvercial yeah how jack of you controversy all controversy guess what guys easy explanation it was reference. It was a joke so obviously it's not a big deal. A reference when you say jack is kind of like high school bully from an eighties football movie. That's that's a reference jack. Not what you would not what you were saying. I would jack be a member of cobra kai yeah yeah me would be. He would be like the guy in the fourth installation. All the starr stopped coming back for the karate movies. Yeah that's for jack would slotted his explanations bad. His dodging was bad as apology was not great. None of it was good be extended. Interview is out there so everyone should check that one out because i'm sure we're gonna talk about all the goodbye messages. Oh man yes so so so jack. I talked about this on on this dream last night but reiterated here that i appreciated that they brought clips in. I feel like that was definitely an improvement or over what they did with aaron. Obviously that was six years ago now so i liked that they brought the clips and a lot of people are speculating that they feel like he was prepared for for this like he was prepped for this. I didn't get that sense personally. I when i saw i looked into his soul and i saw pure terror when gene brought those clips up he had no idea what was going on those clips and he there was relief when he saw the mudhole comment because he knew he already had a response for that because he had already been talked to in dire about that you knew that might be controversial and he had also spoken oaken with some of the people in the house about the pudding the rice pudding comment as well so he had not that he was prepared for this interview but he already had the addressed those things to other houseguests or to himself in the past so that's why i think his answers seemed prepared to julie but i think that he had no idea this was coming when he walked out that door and and he was completely terrified and then was kind of relieved when he saw that some of them were things he'd already knew about yeah i i think i mean right before the hours leading up he talked to christie about. I'm gonna walk out an audience. That's how i'm going to go down like. He doesn't think he's he's gonna come out to deal with this. I'm going to come out and like there's going to be as and i'm going to sit there and you know <unk> wise with julie bench julie and then he gets all this but like you said it's stuff that he's already thought about before he's justified in his head. He's like okay. I kind of have the evidence and the thought process of this stuff so that's fine. That's where the also the other part part is. What i've said about jack in the controversial he's like oh. I knew this was gonna come on jack. I get stuff. I can see it coming from a mile away and then he kind of slips into that cocky persona and that's why the holidays come off half lay smarmy app way too good for this but also trying to be sincere but it's not working out like his persona really fits that whole like oh. I knew it all along and i will say i know that the clips were a little long. I personally appreciated that. I think adding in as much context as possible is is best. There were still some other things. I would have liked to see especially his treatment of david david. I would have liked to see but yeah. They've only got so much time. I guess they decided to go with. I mean certainly the thing needs to be addressed. It was most visible on the show as well so i i. I like running clips. This was <hes>. I didn't expect them to go so hard on jack especially you know i thought he got some segments but i didn't. I didn't think that they'd pull out clips really just roast them over the fire. Yeah well the the fact we've seen the way. The show is portrayed him until a couple of weeks ago as later ago. You've seen like fine. He was kind of almost edited positive light then once they started showing that stuff it was kind of okay. Maybe we're gonna get it but then we saw his punishment last night. Which kind of like it's hard not to look like a positive cheery person tuition because like you're just getting roasted by this alien who we all love to so but he's also laughing with the joe. He's not like complaining too much which put them in a good light. I really got like snowed. I didn't expect it was like oh. Well look like jackson ikea. Everyone likes jack like getting or by but then this brought it all back down to reality i will say i don't think this is is there intention but i actually liked how that went. Where we saw the sort of like charming goofy side of jack earlier and then we saw this you you later in the episode because i like that they showed that there are multiple sides to this person and that that you know he's not one dimensional so in that sense and they just because he is charming and funny in one in one segment that doesn't mean that there aren't other parts to him and i think that showing the the complexity of somebody's character is much better than trying to pigeonhole them into one thing because i think that it's useful to know that somebody can be jack and somebody like alan jack. You know what i mean so i like that part as well yeah and i think it he kind of does represent because for the longest time you beloved jack that house you liked announced even the we all saw right through it even though we knew exactly what he was saying and the way he was acting and we were down on him from the beginning so kind of get the yin and yang and then to kind of really point out faults in him last night. I'm not willing to one hundred percent. Forgive him not him him. The show him obi okay yeah so then we also got eh through. My favorite was nicole's. She said now i can leave. The shaker bottle in the fridge was like yes. I'm glad you brought that up so much long later in the season kind of thing you want the subtle reminder of hey we. I didn't even forget what you did. Jury phases started so i think she put it in a position where she brings it up but she also doesn't like roast them on it. My favorite one was the fake fake out of holly. Say me and haul me and cat will miss you not saying that they're they know. Each other was great. I like that too and carol the interesting about their for holly and cat where obviously i think it doesn't behoove tommy christie to ever admit that they know each other because it might harm them in the jury. I wonder if cat in holly are at a point where denying it might piss people off even more because they believe it so strongly at this point. It's something that i want to continue to track across the season but but for now we'll see we'll see how it goes. Jerry management always interesting to start are tracking wants. That jury starts so jack goes. We have competition. It's very similar to the one we saw last season that was introduced last last season yet to go down the thing and nail nine seconds as much as possible. Tommy is going to win the h. and this is a huge win for tommy because he was in a bit of danger here. I do think that christie probably would have gone before him. Even though there were for some people like cat and cliff that we're targeting tommy before christie. I think most numbers were there to take out. Kristie over tommy in that spot that said is still would have been in danger and this h._r. Wage not only gives him safety to push past some of that danger but allows him to reshape the house into his own image that he wants his images six. I mean five shooters five five five of us. He was talking to this later. Here's like i'd not going to put up any of the five choose like who's the five the remainder under of the six the number that remains that's a great so so tommy windsor windsor george this is this is a make or break moment for a lot of people's games this week in my opinion tommy in particular. Is it right away. I feel like it really really behooves tommy to take cat out of the house. <hes> because cat is the bridge between the cliffs angels and holly jackson axon with hat gone. It weakens holly jackson. It pulls them closer to him. It's <hes> weakens cliffs angels as well so he's able to sort of split them up and weaken in them at the same time. It's kind of a no brainer move and bought. This is mad at cliff. He's mad at cliff. He's always kind of had a thing for cliff. Maybe maybe he makes the mistake of targeting cliff. Maybe he is not able to get either of them out because of the field trip. There are a lot of variables this week. It's kind of a make a break moment for tommy. Make or break rick moment for cliff. He might end up going home this week with the wrong way that things play out and of course make or break moment for cat as she is in a lot of danger as well as the person that tommy should be targeting. She has not done herself any favors over the course of the previous week in how she treated tommy and christie and how she had treated nick and all of that ed so we're in for a wild ride here. Oh it's gonna be a bumpy one yeah. I think the fact that tommy wins not only does it. Give them the ammunition to is trying to rebuild. They're trying to figure stuff out moving forward and keeps them safe. The fact of the matter is i feel like he was in the top three contention for the field trip as well danger of having to deal with that and now with jack gone and would tommy having h these were like two of them. I would argue four top five of the people that were getting votes so now that through the whole wrench into what's going to happen with so you'll trip and it'll be interesting to see because we're gonna get that before. We get his nomination depending on who's up there. That could change what he's doing as well. There's so so much in the air right now. Two of the top five in tommy and jack are now ineligible then one of these other six shooters there system assists. I feel like just has not had enough of a presence on the show for me to feel confident that she got enough votes to do anything because you have to feel passionate about people the vote for or against them and do people even know who says is if they're just watching the show. I don't think so so i feel like there's a good chance she did not get enough votes so that eliminates says and now you're looking at kristie jackson. Maybe hawley ali. Maybe maybe cliff honestly and at this point for cat and cliff might actually be a good thing because it gives them a chance to win safety. Yeah so who knows this whole thing is so confusing and messed up that we've talked about that all week long but really it's not worth speculating too much because 'cause it's gonna play out today. We'll talk about it tomorrow when we know more about it but we can talk about tommy's plans and what he wants to do and who he wants to target so immediately radiantly after winning the age. Tommy is going to talk with nick christie. I should also say before. We leave the topic of the field trip. The voting is he's about to end so i believe in the next hour or so or even less. I guess that that that the voting is going to end so if you have not gotten your votes in today if you really want to make sure you go and do that now but you have to leave the podcast open but in your tab or something don't stay here. Stay or listen to us and and if you're listening after the fact sorry but you've missed it just tune in tomorrow. Find out what happened yeah all right so tommy tells nick. Christie insists that they are all safe. They're all safe but he doesn't know what he's going to do. Ya he's not sure so. Christie insists kind of go out. Nick stays in with tommy he says hey. I've always been loyal to you nick through the h._d. Tommy so he's very pleased with tommy win. He also tells tommy. I'm willing to work with christina. I even like christine like i'm not not antichrist christie like i'm fully on board with you. Guys and i do believe this to be the case. I think that i think that nick was playing both sides for for a while and he did want jack. Jack is gone and tommy's empower. You like nick feels a little more comfortable to kind of firmly plant himself in the tommy camp. I think he feels very good with tommy and i think he feels good. That christie is a little bit more on the outs which puts him firmly in the top. Three obviously obviously feels good as well so i think he feels comfortable in this group. He's got nicole on the side that he continues to get into trouble but i think that nick you might really be in cami for certainly for this week but even potentially for for future weeks like i do know that earlier on this update i talked about how how he's been doing a little too much playing the middle but at the same time because we're in the delicate part of the game given the dynamics right now where there's been a bunch of shakeups the bigalow is not small lions and i'm trying to rebuild the big alliance. There are other targets ahead of them. No matter how hard he's playing the middle and the fact that tommy brought up his name jack ah jack out that breakdown oh my god nixon playing me from the beginning. I think him doing the whole rowing it to tommy was kind of really early in because the off of him getting as closer than tommy already had would have been very slim. He's the last one to go so he can have it up like hey tommy. I mean you got this bro. I got your dog does he talks like he's having federal line and then he kind of like slowly like great because now he comes in he can pretend you did it. We you know baseball the yankees fall last week that tommy felt like he gave a hawaii for cat so that you know this is the kind of thing tommy appreciate. We'll take in and this is the perfect position for him to kinda land right now given that tommy has our and now he knows i'm not going to be on the block gave me. I agree. I think it's signaling signaling. It is a nice way of leading tommy know that he trusts him. Even if tommy doesn't trust neck he at least knows that nick is a number for him and that's exactly where nick stands in tommy's is right now leading tommy do some dirty work is great for nick especially. If i've tommy ended up taking out that's that's great for nick so this was definitely a solid move by nick gives a little more followed up so cat is also going to go in and talk to tommy her line here. She is going to claim oh man. I'm so sorry that i visited jack. I totally wouldn't have but i just i ne- i wanted to be. I want it to be loyal to jess. That's the only reason i still hate jackson. He's still my number one target. I really want jackson to go. I just obviously i had to. I had to be loyal to jazz but i still want jackson to go and it's a bit. She don't protest too much here. I think oh i hate real hate jackson jackson to go yeah boy partial to wait from the dust to settle a little bit more of yelich started as right after jack leaves and you just saved jackson to be like man. I really want jackson ago it. It rings a little hollow. I think yeah no i agree i agree and like i think the reasoning is sound like i did it. Because you know just wanted ended. Yes but again too quick too soon. You can't keep that still want jackson jacksonville guy on the block so no matter how much you say it wasn't his time as well you you still could have done that. There were so opportunity to that so like just you surely is let the dust settle for a little bit at least kind of catch your breath and let him catches. I choose breath later and hope that works out yes so tommy is going to go talk to jackson and jackson's being jackson and look. I want to offer you my services as upon i understand if you wanna put me up as upon i get it but i look not not suggesting it not asking to be upon but i'm willing to do what i gotta do. They did not go well for you the last time i don't know why you're doing it again i talked about jackson yesterday about his stock potential and the watch and how i feel like his position is continuing to improve in that. I do think he can win. This game does like but he might just do something stupid next week to temporarily keep his shares. There's down in this. Is that stupid thing that was talking about the like every now and then you'll get a player. That's a you know what i need to be playing for the veto so i just put me as a guarantee not to play that spot like man you once they you know it's not like a guaranteed thing for you. Don't sit up there. You just like you and he talks about later. Yes yes sitting next to jack like i kind of feel safe but sitting next to nicole. I'd be terrified then. Why are you volunteering yourself. I got his way of trying to get goodwill back with tommy like hey tommy like getting ahead of it before. Tommy decides to do that to him if he thinks it's happening yeah. I think he's he's obsessed with. It's like being the protector and so yeah like he wants to like you know oh. I am taking the beating for my women like it's weird in riquet iglesias. You want to be the hero much what it is so <hes> <hes> so he offers tommy though says well now that you offered you know maybe i should consider it but i wasn't thinking of it and i feel like probably not probably not ought to tie jackson. We talked prior to the eviction. I want to continue to work with you. I always have i never had anything against. Do jackson says same we. I had issues with with somebody else but it was never with you. I want you to know that. Tommy says he appreciates that <hes> he. He's not going to say what he's going to do what he's going to do but he he might end up targeting one of jackson's friends and jackson's like look doc. What are you what are you gonna do and tommy also talks about like right and so in that in the nature of that what i'm concerned about working with you in in us together again is i don't want to end up on the block next to christie like i know that christie is a big target five christie's targeted. I don't want to be on the block next. Tertia wins vito. I go home. That's not what i want. He's essentially trying to get across to jackson like we can work together. I know you still hate christie. I know you still want a target her but that doesn't matter to me. Go ahead and target christie. Just don't put me up next to her. Don't let me be collateral. Damage jackson picks up on what tommy me is is putting down there and he's like look. I would not use you as upon. I don't worry about that. I would not want to risk going home. I would not put you up next to christie. Even says i did talk to christie. We've kind of settled things and that is true. I think one of one of jackson's main complaint with christie was that she was making him out to be like this the big misogynist guy and she apologized profusely for that to him so i do think he is warming to christie a little bit though i don't think he trusts her yet tom izzo i think he would still probably target her in some capacity but he promises tommy tommy would not be collateral damage in the event that that happens so <hes> <hes> tommy appreciates that and it's a good conversation between the two of them. You know it's a good conversation. When the starts off with thomson you're eighty percent. Knock going up to your ninety percent not going up. That's already ten percent increase as good statistics right there so yeh at the same time i do think jackson as warmed up the i think it's a position where unless he outright wednesday h you he's going to go for the shot. He's gonna take if he's not going to do all. He can't be trying to push the agenda. He's going to let go where it goes and play civil but if anyone even brings up the opportunity take that shot he will be the first one in line to make it happen. We're trying to vote that way so yes and it's something that i talked about last night that in the event that christie is nominated as the third nominee for the field trip. The votes would be there to send at her home regardless of what tommy does but i do not think it's a given anymore. The jackson holly vote out kristie over. Whoever else is on the block that could be a danger for four whoever's left on the block so that's something to watch out for as well and we'll talk a little bit more about bat in particular once we get to what tommy's actual plans are. Tommy does say he does not plan on nominating any of the six shooters to jackson so tommy really wants to get the gang back together. Now in the meantime system is going to have a conversation with christie. She asks christy. What christi do things tommy is going to do. Christie says she feels like maybe like cat and jess. You know get out of the game obvious play here. I would probably do if i were tommy. I would probably not bother with cliff just yet because if he's not going home why use him as pissed off sis <hes> <hes> <hes> although i guess i guess there's some benefit to using cliff to i won't deny that but either cat and cliff or cat injustice probably what i'd do and then i would be my target of our tommy this though no cat no cliff i hate him. He has to go christie's like cats more dangerous though and she she knows holly like she she knows holly. She's part of a trio. She's gonna competitions. She's connected to the entire entire house yeah a don't you think that's throwing competitions cliffs. It's not throwing competence. We don't have to worry about cash. If cats can throw competitions than we're going to start winning and we can take out later we can get cliff out now. Cliff needs to go he needs to go. Oh my god let's point and somehow this is winning this argument yeah it doesn't last that didn't make sense because this was kind of making sense is to the others which was a little messy was making no sense. Oh hat has been throwing competition so it will be easy for us to get her out in future weeks when she's not throwing competitions anymore you mean this is the week where if she's throwing competitions. You have the ability to get her out. She's she's. She's blinded. She's blinded by the cliff nice. I think it's because of their age this kind of starting to remind me a little bit of alex and kevin or bb nine alex. I was just like not down with kevin. There's different reasons here but i worry i worry because i feel like cliff my be because again. I don't oh big cliffs done anything directly. I think this has this cliff agenda that she wants and jack in her is basically like how how i've been describing. This is if we call once upon a time in the big brother house cliff was h and he made a move that the audience disagreed with didn't like it. They really pissed them off. Similarly cliff last night made a move that system degree with really pissed her off and so the audience after cliffs h move was like i really want cliff to go home next week to prove just what how just just how dumb he is for making this move how spineless he is. It should backfire on him. He deserves to go home. They wanted him to fail because it would prove that he made the wrong move and it would make them feel better about their analysis of the fact that he made the wrong move. This feels the same way. Only this is in a position to force. I that reality into existence. She wants to create this situation that that proves that cliff should have kept jack in the house he we should have accepted the deal then he would have been safe and now because he didn't he is not safe and he's going home and it's all his fault. He should've kept jack and shockingly hamis told everybody that is only going through consult with this on the decision that he's gonna make these nomination if he's made it clear that it's probably gonna be himself but this is the only other person that he said that's the only person i'm going to discuss things with to be fair envisage him doing his best to distance himself from christie draft to be like i'm with sis not christie so but but still he he genuinely i do think once her input. We'll see we'll see that conversation. A little bit later is very much entrenched entrenched in the idea that she wants cliff to go home next. She also doesn't really want to see cat go next. She has a specific order for when she wants cat to go. She'll have cliff can go first then then cat <hes> so just think about why that might not want to send why this this might not want to send to the jury house and then as you come up with your theories. We'll we'll answer them later because she has a conversation about it. Air comes up all right so in the meantime nick is going to talk with nicole. He's speculating that he feels like if you had to guess ask that. Tommy is going to put up cat and cliff. That's how he feels. He trusts nicole. He's going to share that information with nicole. Nicole goes and tells cliff and cat ah guys nick said that he feels like tommy is going to put you both up. That's no good for us. We need to make sure that at least one of us is not on the block because then we can probably get the votes to save us it. Would it would suck if cat if you and cliff went up on the block together that would really suck cat is thinking oh. I need to throw jackson under the bus. I i need to get him to target jackson. That's cats plan from that from that point <hes> but cat runs to christie and she says christie nicole just told me okay hold on. Let me let me say this. Nick told nicole that tommy is gonna put up me and cliff and christie was like what no why would he say that why would what's now. I tommy hasn't even told me what's happening. Tommy doesn't even know what he's going to do yet. It's not true. It's not true. It's it's stupid cats. Are you sure it's like yeah. Yeah seriously not happening. Okay cat runs and goes to tommy and she says there's tommy or are you putting me in cliff on the block. He's like no. I have not told anybody what i'm doing here and she's like okay because i was. I was just told connects said nick said that you were gonna put me up. Nick doesn't know what i'm gonna do and i was like okay well. At least nicole is gonna be left out of this conversation. No she made a point to say yeah. Nicole told me nicole told me that you were going to do that. Because nick nick told her and i was like kat stopping in one one swoop cat takes information and leaks it to the to people i shouldn't be talking about yeah in not only this bad for nicole really bad for cat and we'll talk about that too because if she goes on the block next to say cliff than she is relying on cats are on nicole's vote to keep her her in the game. She should not be writing nicole out by any means so she. She's freaking out. She really feels defeated defeated. She's going to go to holly and be like i just wanna. Go home and holly is like what do you mean home like. I come home. She's like yeah but i can't even go home and have to go to stupid jury house. I just hate feeling like i'm going to be targeted. Stupid cat calm down again. It's been in two hours relax. I let the game way. See what how it works. Yeah i think this was also bad on another level because you mentioned as if you were telling me you know she's kind of the bridge with jackson and holly and that side i think they already have their suspicions that oh they know each chug and that's the thing that they're not willing to let go now. What does this conversation proof. Oh so nicole and cat are also tight enough that nicole would tell him tell her these days and nick also somehow linked because nick is talking about it to the coal anna nicole saga <unk> this just makes her way in the middle everything central control to everybody and all the communication bridges so also boito and she she's just she's freaking out. <hes> you know i mean this is to be this is the third week where she very very much can be going home you first week all week and now this week so so her her feet to the fire here so then we get a big lull in the night so we're gonna wait for tommy's h._o._a. True he gets the room he does have pictures of his aunt in the in the room and christie is going to going in a play fast and loose like who she i believe nick even at one point was like oh christie likes her aunt christie should or sorry and and kristie should get her number. Whatever funny yeah either. They're not yeah yeah. We obviously obviously obviously obviously not going to get the pictures with all of them in it because then that would just be you know making making a point to be like hey look. They're actually they know each other. That's not gonna happen. Subtle things with the aunt photos and stuff will take it. We'll take what we can get here so that happens. Nicole also was talking about tommy's brother who yes she she. She likes she liked him. He show. I saw him on read it. He was like hey. I'm down somebody who claimed to be his brother. At least the post history did seem convincing to me something this morning so that was kind of funny funny thing that i noticed and then we get some game talk tommy. He's gonna talk with christie. He says he he thinks that this alliance that nick is in an alliance with cat cliff and nicole that he he feels like that's that's a the real thing and so he wants to take. He wants to take somebody out of that group <hes> to force what he wants. He knows nick is playing both sides but he feels like nick. Make is good with them. He wants to continue to have knicks loyalty and so what he wants to do is remove knicks allies so that he only he has tommy to rely on and vice versa with jackson and holly so the one person in the middle of that is of course cat cat. He wants to reunite the six shooters with making seem like they're still separated. Cat is his target and i think there's a smart. I think this is the right move for tommy. I think think that he's nailed. It not necessarily exactly who consists of that alliance but in terms of what he needs to do moving forward strategically removing cat is the right move here. He is thinking about putting cliff up next to her as the pond and then they can send cat home and so that's that's the plan he might he's. He's considering taking cliff down with the veto to put nicole up if he needs to do to ensure that the votes are there to send cat home but the cat is the target and i think i'm when the way he's looking at you max out. You know you want someone removed. That'll bring people closer to him. If everything works that an analyst and work the way he sees them. Yes he takes nick and yes jackson and holly are kind of now more with them because like holly cat thing now the cat's gone and daytime if he's trying to keep it as hey. We're not really all back together again. We're one big happy family again you can point to. I just got out holly's b._f._f.'s like why would you work with me. So it's a slam dunk on all counts here but again and we just have to see how it will play out and then we'll have to see what comes of this a new twist but for all intents burgers. I think this is the move for him. Currency with the fbi yes so tommy is we're gonna talk with cliff and cliff is gonna do usual campaigning style of just like very look. Things are the way they are <hes> <hes>. I want to explain what happened with jack. Vote that i had to do with the way that i did. It and i hope that you understand how many says he understands. Of course there's no matter what happens. We'll be good you. You know if this is my time. It's my time. I just ask. Why don't don't ostracize me. I hope that we can still joke and have fun like i want to enjoy my time in the house and i wanna let you know that you know if i had to that jury house bitter feelings here. I want to vote for the the best player. I'm not gonna have any ill will toward whoever's running the house so i want you to know that tommy. Tommy says he really he really really appreciates everything that cliff saying he lives like if you have any questions. I really don't like you what i what i appreciate about cliff is that you're an open book and you're open to making deals and you're honest guy and so i appreciate who you are. I want to tell you cliff. You're not my target. You might end up on the block not entirely sure yet but if you do. I hope you know you are not my target. I am not going to tell anybody else that i'm not going to tell anybody that like. I'm not going to tell anybody else that they're not my target and i'm gonna put like i'm only telling you this. You know more information than most people in the house. You are not my target and so closes i. I appreciate that thank you. Thank you so much. It's very cordial conversation yeah there. They've formal conversation thinker cliff kind of saw this coming our had this feeling the minute tommy won. The feeds feeds game back him and make you were talking about well. I if i'm going to be us on the block you know we did what we ought to do. He talked about it before the for the episode that oh i like this was the shot i had the shot again. I have to take it now and if this is my bet i'll lay so cliff knew this was the movie wanted to to make this is where he doubles down on the thing you wanted to do initially and he gets a chance and now he sounds a little defeated sounds a little defeated but at the same time. I don't think he's he's dead on the water. I don't think he thinks he's on the water. Yet is just an initial feeling a first night worry of oh. No this might be the invoice after pay for. I'm doing what i did this past week but i think the key chronically high feeling better than he would've before he went into what yes so. You know tommy essentially essentially says if you put up on the block next somebody you can probably assume that they're the target or at the very least that somebody's coming down and there's another target in the works at tommy also talks. A two cat cat continues to explain that man i just i wish jack can come to me earlier. He assumed i wasn't a vote but i and let me say i. I probably would have been vote for him. Only needed to do was was asked earlier. You know talk talk to me. I was hurt that he didn't assume that that was a vote for him and tommy's oh that sucks. Tommy really not not buying selling here. She says again that nick nick told nicole that nicole and nicole told her that she was going on the block and all that stuff she says she loves tommy really hopes that they can work together. Tommy very a different conversation than the one with cliff though tommy definitely gassing or up here <hes> like oh yeah i love you. I love you too. I love you too cat but does not give give her any in from. I'm not telling anybody anything. I don't want the the the what did he say the mumbling or something muttering <hes> he doesn't want to get out. It doesn't want the chattering to happen so he's not gonna tell anyone anything and so she doesn't know yeah so this is kinda where you know for sure. You know he's looking at cat. I think any of the excuses cap brings up. Don't really play. Don't really have any kind of of leeway to work with him. He sees what he's seeing now and this is the move for him to make murmurs murmuring said okay that makes thank you jim so so then tommy is going to talk with sis and he says i really wanna talk with you. You're my person. It's like oh yes yes yes. I'm so happy that you want tommy back to. I think this sort of now that jack is gone. Tommy is really working hard on says. It's very good for him to do. She's capable of winning competitions. She's a great goat for the end so tommy really trying to reel her in hold her close us says he really values her opinion and then is going to completely dismissed her opinion in a way that makes her feel like she was heard so good on tommy for that he says you you know look i think is the common denominator in all of the outsider alliances. If i take her out i we can all sides says he's like okay. I get that but i really really want cliff gone. Does it really weak in them. He's like yeah she's like but but don't you think cat is throwing competitions. I don't you think cliff is not. They're unconscious. That's a good point yeah. I mean i'm thinking about putting cat and cliff on blogs. She was like okay yeah because then if one one wins veto the other one goes home like yeah yeah yeah something like that. She says well. Hey look. I don't know when this happened exactly but she says nick told me i think it. She said it happened today. As in yesterday as in i think that night that it might have been when they were whispering prior to this conversation nick told her that cliff if he had one would have put up tommy christie in the with the goal being being to take out tommy because tommy is scarier than christie is is her words so tommy's like whoa that's good to know <hes> okay that definitely solidifies it. Then cat and cliff both on the block but i do still feel like cat is the bigger threat like okay okay. I see that but don't you think like in my perfect world what i would want to do is put jackson holly and then back door or cliff and like i don't know if that makes the most sense feel like that's kind of risky there. I don't know if that's necessarily the best move. He's just like thank god. She did not win. Yeah yeah given us this would have been the closest and the controversies online at ces should have won. I wish i saw floating around last night. Yeah i saw a picture of tommy's boat though no it was just yeah ah that's exactly how controversies get you around <hes> yeah. I think i definitely think based on the conversation. We've seen all night. This is tommy's new direction is keep. The five is he. He wants a swat wants to keep that's why but at the same time disassociate associated with christy because it doesn't want to go down with the ship that christie is with the negativity and the fact that people are looking at kristie right now because you also know that no matter what cruces with him and he's with christy silent so it doesn't matter how much they keep distance that works out but then also pick up everyone that's losing a key member and he's been trying to bring in nick towards himself after bella white now he's trying to bring insists after jackson's left now if kako trying to pull back holly pool by <hes> jackson this is the game he wants to play pieces that are losing their pieces and bring all that in knowing christie's the cherry on talk because no matter what happens <unk> together yeah and it doesn't even matter like jackson and still not necessarily on board with working as the remnants of the six shooters but jackson is on board with working with tommy and tommy has secured a deal with jackson where tommy doesn't go up on the block next is to christie if that shot does get taken so tommy ends up in a real nice spot once again if he can get through this week cleanly and nothing goes wrong now. There's a lot of ways this week can go wrong and tommy is he's not he's prone to making mistakes himself so we'll we'll wait and see how this plays is out for him but he could find himself back in a pretty good spot depending on how this plays out so tommy says i want to put the people that are good with everyone. That's cliff that's cat. I want to expose cat as much as i can because i want people to realize that she's playing all all sides and so because i want to be gone at the end of the week i can help you mend things with cliff if we need to keep pushing back doesn't really make any actual sense and unlike christie. Tommy is kind of just like yeah but and so tommy seems he's very very much on board with wanting to take out. This is willing to accept that for the time being and i think that you know once she cools tools down over the course of the week. I don't think this will be an issue for tommy. I don't think that she will go against his wishes. I think that by thursday if it's cat and cliff and on the block <hes> that she will be a vote to vic cat as long as that's still what tommy wants. Tommy does also have nick. Come up there. Tell me does not tell nick what he's doing. He's still he's still leaves. It ambiguous does not trust nick with information but he does tell nick that he's gotta you. Gotta watch what you say. Man 'cause cat came up to me and she said that nicole told her that you told nicole that i'm putting up cat in cliff and nick is like nicole told her what a snake what mother ever what if what an f. god. I can't believe she snakes me like bat. Ah god nicole. I hate you. Nick loose murmurs. Don't do them by this. Is this is again. Nick the conversations. The people talk about nick when nick on the room is we shouldn't be telling all that much information so nick is also a snake but snake. Don't recognize snake in this scenario. Are you or snake recognized in this scenario. I guess accurate so nick kind of pissed off about nicole there. We'll see where that goes. Does this is going to talk with christy. After all of this <hes> this talks to christie and she says tommy wants to take caddo cat and cliff. They're very dangerous and christie's like they are and you know it's it's the right move. It's the right move and so then sis talks about another another her thing now that she's having to consider okay. Maybe cat will be going home this week. Now i have to ask the question and this if you came up with theories earlier in the podcast now is is the time to bring them back into your mind if you're right she got. Do you think you've sent to the jury house alone alone with jack for a week. Do you think they're gonna hook up there. As there's the agenda she wants cliff gone. I that cliff can hop block. That's what's going down. That's the true nature of this plant. That is the distaste in her mouth really though really really this stop it. Stop your onset. Please up oh boy. She's also terrifying five. She's like do they get a phone call. He's going to call his ex his name yeah yeah. Oh boy so if if you were right give yourself one of those great pats on the back you did it if you success if you predicted hog block congrats because that's a good one yes there. We go hashtag so that's on his mind. Tommy is then gonna talk with. Just his conversation goes something along the lines of i'm obsessed with you. I'm so obsessed with you jess. I wanna work with you. I'm not gonna put. Are you on the blog. I'm obsessed with you in just as bray coup of me. I love you to tell me. I was gonna talk when the coal and his conversation goes something along the lines of nicole. I'm obsessed with you. Oh nicole. I want to work with you. I'm not putting you on the blog. I'm sad australia also by the way had said that you told cat. The nick told you that i'm putting up cliff in nicole. Just wanted to put that out there. I i want to let you know told about it. I hope i hope you don't mind. Nicole is like cats. It's enough thank you. This is a very effective way using the information. He got the piss everyone in that chain of information off yes on each other which is pretty great a mix. I wrote nicole. Nicole cat so brilliant cat handed tommy. It's almost weird. It's like there have been some <unk> wages along season that have just not been great. This is why being h is so powerful people bring you information you can use that information to splinter people to mess up relationships to gather information yourself you you get intel hat offered offered him intel on a platter good intel necas speculating. He trusted nicole enough to tell her nicole trust cat enough to tell her cat entrusts cliff christie tom enough to tell them that's a whole chain of events that if you use that information properly you can really piss people off tommy we did so very effectively talking to nick getting him pissed off at nicole talking to nicole getting hurt pissed off at cat and now they're a big mess over there and and tommy really really use use that effectively nicole is going to go downstairs and talk with cliff and be like <music> get partly. I can't believe she did that. Why would she do that. I'm so mad. It's the best time to do it. We've what we've seen. You know this past week. People were sitting on information to the last day of the last five hours. Get it done at the train. If you want to unravel they start on raffling. They can't do anything to retaliate against you until you're each rain is done even if they do fix each other and to them around the block now they gotta make a decision who goes and if if you have a specific agenda which is to get chat. Nicole is now someone that you might be able to vote especially because nicole is not in your initial set of rama nations nations being h one oh one gather information use that information to caused some chaos gather more information the more uncomfortable people feel more. They're gonna spill to you so tom is doing a good job. There <hes> so plan is cat and cliff on the block cat being the target. If we look at the votes here let's exclude the field trip for now <hes>. If we look at the votes it's gonna be jackson hawley and jess as votes to keep cat probably it's going to be christie cysts and nick to keep cliff and that leaves nicole who just got real pissed off at cat and loves cliff so i would imagine cat vote to keep cliff. If tommy wants gone he can make that happen excluding the field trip which imagine herring if there is a nominee that third nominee wins the veto they remove themselves the non just say yes. That would be my guess. We chance that we have a chance for get to the end of the we'll just economics. Yes so that's something to consider. Obviously tommy might change his mind. Things might change but for right now. That's what it looks like then then. You have to consider what happens with the field trip potentially so let's say jackson gets sent on the field trip. Jackson becomes the third nominee then one of the votes to keep a cat is now gone. It makes it even easier for that to go home there. I don't think jackson is in any trouble. I think that the votes once again nick christie insists with three nominees. Tommy only needs three votes to evict because he then breaks tie. There are only six votes total so if one of if tommy keeps all three of his votes kristie nick insists then tommy controls who goes home he he can get out whoever he wants. If one of those votes ends up on the block nyc nick says or christie then he loses the numbers and the other side can vote out christie says or nick if they decide to. That's what we talked about earlier in the podcast. It's not necessarily a given that jackson in hollywood vote out kristie over other people but it is likely that they probably would not give not a given that all so that's. That's something to consider their. If christie ends up on the block the votes would be there to take her out but we also have to consider the fact that the field trip will take place probably before four the nominations and so if i'm tommy and the field trip happens and christie ends up as a nominee so christie's now the only nominate hey my entire plan for the week changes because i need to keep christie in the game. This is something i talked about last night if fino christie's on the block no matter what i do then what i'm gonna do is. I'm not gonna put cat on the block. I'm not gonna change my target from cat. That's great for me to be able to do if i can. Maybe i can back door her. If something works out like maybe area probably not though because christie would need to come off block in order from that's happened but i can't put out on the block because because that guarantees that holly jackson vote to keep cat and if they're voting to keep cat they're probably voting to keep the voting to evict christie so i'm gonna change my target. We're going to try and probably make a deal with cat jackson and holly. I'm going to tell them look. I'll keep you all three off the block as long as you promise not to evict christie or something along those lines. If you promise to go you promised to vic the person. I put up there then i will keep you off the block and instead target somebody like cliff that indefinitely habit like the person that gets put on the block as the third nominee could influence tommy's plans th right from the get-go and he might end up nominating other people yeah. I mean it could really should if that does happen. He really does half the reevaluate and set it up because he does the if he if he's guaranteed to have relieved that he wants to leave. It's fine who are like just needs to rally votes to make it a specific one but if anyone leaves whatever but what if christie is up on the bus he needs people he needs the numbers he needs people that he's like doesn't care about right now to be in his corner to be in his voting squad so oh this is something we'll have to look out for moving forward and i do think christie is a strong contender to be part of the three going into the field trip anyway and it definitely will happen premiums because someone someone has to be declared safe to so we got to have someone guaranteed safety and someone guaranteed on the block before he gets <unk> yes and so then obviously other options options for what could influence or change these nominations if cliff or cat ended up as the third nominee already then he won't be able to nominate them. He'll have to come up with somebody else us. My guests would be nicole. He didn't really want to jesse didn't really want to put it in the cole either but he did mention a coal as a potential upon at one point so if cat is on the block already or cliff is on the block already. I would see the other two cat or nicole. I think all three would end up on the block. That's more likely hat or cliff end up as safe for the week. Then i think that we might see nicole on the block as well as upon next to whoever but that might also depend depend on who the third nominee is at that point say like cliff is safe. Cat is the third nominee right then you're probably looking at like got a cat like nicole ingests or something along those lines at that point <hes> so lots of different options here obviously the field trip is going to have a massive impact act on the week to come and like i said if christie ends up is the third nominee i think the the target might change we might see cliff in more trouble but christie he is also exposed and the vote would come down to jackson and holly whether they either stayed true to a deal they made with tommy or just decided to go against what tommy wanted in the first place <hes> and then lots lots i apologize if it's a lot to work through here you can check out my my twitch from last night if you you want to go into more details but there's a lot of possibilities we'll be back tomorrow and most of them will be. We'll be quelled by that point so don't worry about it. That's the fun part is that we got the news speculation on this app tamar you can sought like solidly talk about who is the third who has safety and who's wearing a weird punish pasta. We don't no no you know. I was thinking about this like what if the punishment is that you lose your vote. I can't vote that would be a thing or they don't play veto or that would be another huge <hes> change in the week because that would mean that tommy might not have the votes to send home every once. We don't know what this punishment is so yeah but given how many punishments they've been giving and how much they've been like spotlighting them on the show. It's probably just like a costume or something. They need something to kinda. Fill up thursday. Probably i guess to kind of finish. The speculation with this is your prediction also jackson christie and a third person ninety. That'd be my guess though yeah. I guess i'm feeling the same. She's a matter of who's going to be the third or were right at it. Is those two advert. I honestly it could be it could be cliff it. Could it could be holly could be. I think it could be any of those four. I'm not i feel like nick probably not i feel like honestly probably not even say like she's on a lower tier. Maybe nicole maybe kat. Maybe cats a little higher than nicole cats. I think anybody that's a big figure on the show has a lot more likelihood than anybody. That's not on the show much yeah and like as much i think just as a non-factor but also just was h. O. h. all week and here again. This is hoping that the casuals do not mess up and you know just do random things but the understand the rules. The thing about jess is that i feel like even though she was in the spotlight last week she was in spotlight as the h. and so i feel like anybody anybody that wanted to vote her into give her safety would be like what she's she doesn't need <hes>. I see yeah if you're already not understanding it enough like i feel like that's probably going to tie in you know so i feel like probably not just personally but it's rampant speculation at this point <hes> that's what we have here anything else you wanted to bring. No i just i would like to acknowledge that in the midst of all this stuff the one person we didn't bring up at all was holly all these continuing to do a really good job of chile. The only time holly's name really came up when maki said if you're gonna put me just put me up next to all i asked this. This is a big week for holly as well talking about make or break moments here if she is able to get cliff out this week and keep cat. Then holly isn't a dominant position in this game. That's fantastic for her. Cliff was the one obstacle in her way of like just total domination in this game game based on positioning and who she has his allies she has cat as a shield and a weapon that she uses. She got jackson as a shield and a weapon. She'll be able to stay in good with tommy and their crew crew. She'll be able to continue to use as a bridge to pull in jess and nicole who no longer have somebody to like be a voice of reason to help them out like nicole is going to be by herself at that point with with jess who is very much going to do. It cat says he's going to do what holly says and so that'd be very good for holly. If holly loses this cat then her position weakens and she is still in a pretty good spot but not nearly as dominant so this is a big big vote for for holly this week yeah another thing that would be fun to ask you. This is i think i think it was a little bit of a factory. -ality tommy i mean one in after the week we had and that will splinter that happened but at the same time given that it's interesting what he's thinking and the field trips or nominee the i think this still has a potential that the fun week charity house goes all right so that's what we have here. Thank you so much for joining us. I mentioned my my twitter dream. We were in the last night. Had a lot of fun makes you tune in their twitch dot tv slash taryn armstrong. You go there at the follow button. You can be notified when i go live to you can hang out the next time that happens. Thursdays are fun found on the stream. You can also find me on twitter at armstrong darren. We're going to provide you on all made me go. I will be back tomorrow morning. At eleven eastern to update every map and today on the big brother twenty-one live feeds the field trip is going to <hes> to happen so then the nominations going to happen. It's going to be a lot to talk about tomorrow a lot of scenarios to run through at that point so make sure to amend and one of the things thing i've been thinking about thursday nights tend to go pretty late with the new and everything just a heads up that probably going to be shifting shifting back the update time maybe just for friday's <hes> into something like eleven thirty or noon eastern potentially in order to give myself more time to to to stay up and watch the feeds completely murdering myself with sleep so just be prepared for that if it happens to the scheduling we'll be worked out just wanted to give you a heads up. That's a potentially here in the works but thank you so much for joining us today a fun one see next mm-hmm the.

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Big Brother 21 | Sep 3 Summer of Stein with Matt Hoffman

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Big Brother 21 | Sep 3 Summer of Stein with Matt Hoffman

"Everybody wants to non robson ready for this week summer of stein with very special guest matt hoffman here on the podcasts very excited. If you guys to hear what eric and matt have to say <hes> very fun podcast coming your way. I do want to let you know that this podcast does contain a bit of the adult language of listening to this in a place where they're young people. You're at work just a little bit a heads up for what you are getting getting into and then forget into the conversation. Today i wanna take a moment and thank our sponsor of the podcast those our friends over at brooke brooke linen because you spend one third of your life not just watching big brother but also in sheets. 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Brooklyn dot com is giving an exclusive offer just for our listeners get ten percent off and free shipping when you use promo code rush at brooklyn dot com in brooklyn and is so confident all products that they have their sheets comforters and tells come with a lifetime warranty and the only way to get ten percent off and free shipping shipping is you promo code r. o. b. at brook linen dot com. That's b. r. o. K. l. i n. E. n. dot dot com promo code rob brooklyn. These are the best sheets ever no sleep till brooklyn <music> stories it yeah that's right. We are back first summer stein of september as we starts approach the end of the summer but we are back here once again to talk some b._b. Twenty one with my i man my rider die. Please welcome back the great eric stein eric. How're you rob. It's good to be here. I thought maybe we'd finally hop back onto video but alas. I'm wearing a cutout shirt in my nipples are showing good good and then no bra so okay. That's all all for the best that we're just audio only but we do have some history to be had today because for the very first time in the history of summer summer stein. We have a guest with us today. I could not be more excited for this man. I think it's going to be a mess and i'm here for it. Flees fleas welcome the big brother podcasting legend who is back with us for big brother twelve. Please welcome to the matt hoffman matt. How're you hey. How's everybody doing thank you. This is such an honor to be the first guest on the summer of stein fine dr to reunite you with eric stein for the first time since twenty thirteen's reality game masters. I know i know and it's a good thing without on video awkwardly also my nipples shirt so that would have been uncomfortable for yeah yeah. Should we conference in ian and terry. We should talk <hes> old times a little nostalgia. Yes i heard from him. Actually <hes> <hes> last week after i did a podcast on the <hes> anniversary of dan's funeral and i guess he listened to that podcast ask. We got to catch up for a little bit he's doing. He's doing great but not following any big brother so i guess doing better than any of us. You guys talked a lot about reality game masters at yeah all right. We're good. That's going to be the next oral. History is all about reality game masters but matt hoffman. How're you doing. I am i'm doing great. I'm riding the summer. Stein <unk> loved life. Things aren't good yeah. It's great. I mean watching big brother. Can you not be <hes> doing great during a season of big brother right well. It would be great to hear from you. What what's your take on big brother. Twenty one aw twenty was atop season to to come off of it was a good one so <hes> i didn't expect it to be better. It's not and you you know you have your typical reprehensible characters some good ones. I'm not a cliff maniac here. That's the thing yeah yes cliff maniacs cliff maniac. I mean it's sir good on that bandwagon but <hes> cassara. Let's go may we add some racism which always interesting osceola sees that no no no not good good to know scandal preseason. I think <hes> i you know we had like a million fucking the prior season which was awesome not really allowed to go in the hold room for suppose seasons seasons <unk>. Maybe we get some one on one game. Bullshit charity events going on or something. We'll have to see now. Time will tell me. I don't think you can really assess the season until a good three four months after the season's over and you'll let everybody kinda settled into their kookiness so that's interesting so you really look at the season from a much more like holistic view of the pre season stuff going on there was nobody's like twitter that they found like any sort of like <hes> like inappropriate whatever whatever and then also the postseason. You want to see what happens when they get out of the house. You know it's funny. People in the community oftentimes of her often he was is a great strategist just went too early. No i was a seventh place loser. I'm not a strategist. I don't i mean it's great. I'm sure all the fans that love strategic players great game plan. I do you like that but that's not. That's not the big brother to me. There's so much more. It's all is all the trash bullshit surrounding an entire the whole season the way it encompasses. It's just it's everything is trash <unk> t._v. At it's finest and i liked the whole the whole thing eric. What do you make of the hoffman esque view of the world <hes> well. I mean birds and clowns and pies. That's what i'm here for. You know forget this strategy. I'm here for the nonsense. The weirdest camp i've ever attended and i love it. <hes> you know i i'm feeling a little bit down in this podcast though because about last time we podcast about two hours before it all all went to complete garbage for her. We decided we were going to stand sticks for the rest of the season ryan now. She's gone so what's left. Is there the roof or really threw through bigger threat yeah. We put her over to hard yeah. I think that the last time that we actually spoke i believe was the ill-fated taco tuesday. I i think that was <hes> and unfortunately i actually i think it was the monday bove's tackle monday. I some ill-fated tacos these past saturday into sunday. We had no idea that that was eric. Did you see that lebron. James is trying to trademark taco. Tuesday yet doesn't feel uhlich something he'd have ownership of the first person who ever said that outrageous and also. I have some other gripes with some celebrities. I'll be at a lower level celebrity celebrity that i want to get into real quick here. I was out in the los angeles area last week for work and few things first of all i contacted one of the big brother and asked if i could swing by the house and i was flatly rejected but he said no way in hell and it was just a plain no no consideration no justification. You should just do not come here under any circumstances whatsoever but then secondarily i got stuck in outrageous traffic as one does out there and i tweeted tweeted my complaints because i was in a standstill traffic park on on the freeway so i was able to send out a tweet and i started getting all of these messages from people saying that a gentleman from vander pump rules stole my tweet without credit put it in his instagram story story palmed it off as his own commented on it and then all kinds of thousands of people are are reacting to it. I do not like this. I do not like this and then even more bazaar. He does not follow me so i'm wondering how did he come across this tweet. Why did he steal it. And why do people care what he says so much more than they care what i say and now i'm here here to make sure that at least twenty people care what i say to redeem myself for this total injustice the tweet. I don't know it's just complaining about the traffic. It wasn't even a tweet. I was just flabbergasted. Why this man was trolling my page in stealing this from me. I mean if matty that i'd expect that but not not not sermon man. What do you make of. This is some vander pump rules. I following eric stein on twitter only to steal his tweets. Okay look. I'm not going to sugarcoat this. What am i what i'm about to say might hurt feelings but this is. This is what my assessment of the situation. Oh actually actually might be flattering to be honest. I think typically when people behave this way. I think vanderbilt rules guys actually a huge eric stein fan but he might be shameful about it doesn't wanna follow stein but but he's got a frequently up in stein's so i think i think you have yourself evanger fan. I say i think he's might right beating plotting to kill me but i'm not sure that to you man them chopped up in freezers somewhere in are we sure that you are in fact the person with the original tweet eric yeah. It was very eric esque wording so. I don't think it's something that other people were out there recreating lebron james situation here i do. You believe that i was patient. Zero of this tweet author share lebron. James also a creator of the million dollar mile before trademarking king a taco tuesday matt. Is it possible. Did you watch the million dollar mile. You did anybody kirk clark that fight the eric. Could we have some sort of a taco tuesday tie in for a return for the million dollar mile. I feel like they could pass out tacos along along the way like you hand out water. During a marathon i mean miles not that long probably won't cramp them up too much but it does feel like it would have been. Maybe better for candy crush potentially or or t._k._o. Even t._k._o. Tuesday links swing tacos at taco knock yeah okay and a rough week for <hes> kevin hart also so hopefully tally kale stars ars. He like to into the tangible world. I don't think that he would do it. What do you think i feel like. He's probably gonna steal a tweet of mind before he goes back the show. That's more like the levels writing these days. Okay all right so here. We are headed towards the double of fiction as <hes> things start to really get to the end game. Has this been a good season at this. This is a this one unlike most. I'm liking more towards the end allied. It's been bidding on predictable <hes>. I'm not sure what direction it's going to take now this whole you know three couples couples the thing is could could go any direction. I like that l. A. that element is <hes> eric. Let me ask you about the state of our showman's. It's in the house jackson and holly that has this is not taking place on the episode yet so a little bit of some lifebeat spoilers but they've been feuding a bit and chasmin wants to know which c._b._s. Relationship will last longer jackson holly or bob and an amateur allah. Ooh yes that is i think jackson. Ali are going to be done about twenty minutes after the finale so i i i normally i like to give people that grace period of about six weeks where they can capitalize on their appearance fees and and so forth maybe make the podcast casts rounds for example but this does not feel long for this world so i definitely believe in the true love of abba show love far greater than anything that jackson holly will ever see. I think it's more like jackson and holly or big jeff and his original relationship with mosquitoes this to the uninitiated bobbing bobbing abessola is eric. What is the plot of this show. I have seen quite a few commercials but nothing that i've witnessed yet would help articulate that i can't really make heads or tails of it. He has grown in a very nice moustache since mike and molly that much i can say but i don't know we'll have to bob. Middle aged compression socks businessman from detroit who unexpectedly falls for his cardiac nurse yeah well recovering from a heart attack and sets his sights on winning her over undaunted by abby scholla's lack of initial interest or vast differences in their background. She's he's originally from nigeria. Bob is determined to win aba scholla's heart in this <hes> comedic examination of immigrant life in america from award-winning creator creator executive producer and writer chuck. Laurie matt well. We have a bob and bob hearts abi shola veto competition soon look. I don't know what the fuck you guys have been talking about for the last movie premiere netflix pitch edged stein did or something until you get very ended yours say what i don't know what's going on in the interest of of show mantas and win the the the the the entirety of the season the show that i'm looking forward to panning out and we have to wait 'til postseason. That's can't assess the nick umbrella thing because i love i love that he he's all into her and she broke up with him via twitter when he can't even read twitter all things. I want to see what happens there yeah. That's going to be very interesting to see how that plays out because nick has been very amorous in the house where she's been watching the live feeds and it. It doesn't seem like that. Nick feels like he's done anything wrong. No no he doesn't sound the show. Sometimes there's christine season this. This is not the first time that people get kinda like comfortable in the house and their partners. Maybe not as comfortable not as comfortable what about jackson and how he met that you were on season with brendon and rachel you married brendon and rachel correct yeah. I didn't like now like in a emerald yes but you conducted the ceremony yeah brendon and rachel so you know a thing or two about show manses so do you do. You think that jackson holly have a shot this day and age. It's tough you know with all the hashtag and social media stuff. I totally agree with stein. Did they're gonna wisely stayed together for to do some influencing or whatever people are doing nowadays it was genuine. Swedes scare breteuil just weird and in pure. This is all this stuff. Nowadays show mates as <music> a marketing bullshit eric if one of them does not go on to win. Do you think that for marketing purposes that they have to stay together together for at least a few months to cash in i mean i don't think anyone's really clamoring to line up to see them. I mean i made a couple of appearances minor league hockey games back in the day and i feel like that's probably about the level they're rolling. I mean maybe if they're really lucky they can stay relevant enough to make an appearance. It's on young abessola. The spin off of the year we have a whole other factor in play because mtv now that can go on the beach on long enough and then break up. There's a whole they're like play going on with big brother alone standing. I'd never factored into well. I'm i'm sure they would have really been clamoring to get us on the challenge. Absolutely yes yeah. I think they need each other. I think that holly unless she she ceremoniously like kicks jackson to the curb. I feel like that that is her thing. I know she's been upset about that in the house but it without the jackson holly i. I don't know what she has. I don't think she has anything any way you slice is it. I mean she has a water. Yes watermelon and some some regrets. I mean has has there ever been a power couple couple that has been in control for a larger chunk of the game who is doing a worst job with their power. I mean that by not finishing cristea st overseas. I mean when you have a good player up against a bad player. It's kind of like you have them wobbling in mortal kombat you finish them. This is what you do and then you don't put up christie against tommy's assuring that you can get one of them out. I mean this is not in the correct way to win the game and then thinking that they're just under the radar. Nobody realizes they've won the last twenty seven competitions. I mean come on guys. You're doing well but you are doing so so badly at the same time. It's fascinating jets deposition to me that do you think that jackson holly can ride this out out and somehow get back under the radar. They're not going to get onto the radar they did have to do. I could kevin martin thing you know and just kind of beast mode it out together. I i think that's our only hope at this point caesar. When you say beast mode it out you mean play like caleb. Cowboy rented. No no no actually a heat stroke might help jackson at this point could possibly gain them some sympathy for a week if he wants to go survivor mode yeah and then people will start to underestimate him. That's right impossible to believe that one could suffer a heat stroke when they consume nineteen. Watermelons is a day await met. Where were you there for the the great zing but he incident or was that after your timer on season fourteen that was <hes> man was that you inside of their babies yeah. She's dying. Click under contract <hes> <hes> n._d._a. Nondisclosure eric speaking of the zing bite he came in and then also upset holly with his tweet that she was an old buzzard that really <hes> made her upset especially when she got the connotation that had a buzzard might be somebody who swoops in after somebody else a already gets. The first shot a guy which i had not ever heard at that slur before of a buzzard but andrew. I'm free wants to know top ten old buzzards in big brother history. Oh man there has in plenty of buzzer beating in my day but now <hes> which definition are we using colored situation differently. You wanna go for the top ten old. I'd feel like both jerry's were up there and so we just all get about. Are we just talking about like old people. Are we talking about because i'm not all deals like the sloppy seconds. Isn't that the point. I think it's open to interpretation if we have room for ten k. Remember i feel like i didn't have some sort of situation asian where he he passed himself from woman to woman for a while he feels like he may have encountered some buzzards back in the marsh land or whatever but i guess that doesn't make him the buzzer right. It makes whoever else the buzzer you no. One else has banged like sloppy second wise on big brother right. This is the first this is groundbreaking. That doesn't feel right. There has been some right yeah. Let's think about this. There had to be other like pre feed things but then fell apart prior to like the real show man's right get about this though and i think that this happens a lot that these people who who are recruits know almost nothing about the show that they say it's almost like at times. It's like it is mind blowing how little they know but for whatever whatever reason people seem to know hey live feed cameras. Don't turn onto <hes> this day so we can have sex before at this date and nobody will be able to see it and this seems like a that people are on board with this plan. What i thought you were gonna say is that for some reason one of the only things that they think that they know is that the live feed cameras don't film them when they have sex which is also believable. The producers probably tell them that in that people will only be able to film us have sex with video cameras but people will not be able to be watching live like like oh. I feel like shelley of clearly was probably an old buzzard right. That's a good one. That's a real good because that was a little bit that was like a similar age gap right. It was a little bit of a semi cougar territory and i think a similar feat of the relationships relationships as well sweet. I'm not even trying to be funny. I actually had to really wrack my brain to remember who was klay and who was corey. I struggle air for core is the guy who led the goat on fire. Remember that's correct. That's correct uh-huh for some reason. I don't know what he's on one of the m._t._v. shows eric because i was on twitter today. T._m._z. was just like tweeting being like years. Corrie brooks working out on the news. Here's cory flexing on the beach and what is this like a personalized to me because i it gives about big brother how it why it was so weird is that we need like stein out out on out in the streets. It's you know like in t._m._z. Here's eric sign flexing. Looking krikorian brooks was flexing right in front of me. I i'm not sure i would know who that is so certainly wouldn't newsworthy okay all right. Let's talk about some of the other uh of things going on in the game and a lot with christie being up on the block these last few weeks met. What's your take on christie big brother player. It's weird because i like at a strictly game. I think she's she's avoiding the black black. She's he has an argument for a win. If she makes it through the end i would say but she may she is not so irritating and it's not just the crying that's a huge part of it definitely definitely but i mean i feel bad for about chewing segment to <hes> is hysterical as it was <hes>. Maybe a little a little arriving. I was a little like like picking on her but what i particularly think about christy and tommy as well as either them get the final two and win and then after everyone votes then they get they find out that they were together. I feel like i be super pissed off about was on the jury. Also i'd like. I'd wanna wanna be misled just kind of bullshit that they got the advantage and i don't for that reason. I don't think it would be either of them went. Do you think that the show would be happy or unhappy with a tommy christie final to matt matt probably on happy. I think i don't know maybe maybe they'd be happy because they finally did something right now the twister they're just constantly fucking burress. Take the credit eric this like where if they get to the the end together. Are they going to do like a big reveal light. Hey what you didn't know was that like derek was a cop the whole season and that's like a big surprise on finale do they risk for the entire cast revolt at that point where they then reveal. Hey this whole summer. Tommy christie christie knew each other and they made it to the final two and <hes> that's how they did it. Yeah is a no way that is at five minutes. It's after the show pull them one by one back into the green room and break the news to them type of situation when they did my big finale reveal about america's player they conveniently neglected to mention that i was winning additional money as america's player for the cast did not meltdown on stage when they heard about the unfairness of this entire hire concept and i think they do not want negative reactions during the live finale nights so i i think i think honestly that they intended to call vanessa ece and have her come back this season and they just kind of took a wrong turn along the way and ended up with <hes> her d'appel ganger christie instead. I mean she's playing the almost identical gain we now so emotionally manipulative all of the crying of very frenzied and these type of players. They are dangerous because i'm i'm a logical thinker. I know at another logical person would do in this situation or someone who knows the game with do in this situation. I do not know what a freaking crazy person would do in these situations relations and it makes them especially smart and crazy because then where is she coming from and i gotta give her some credit here. I mean to survive against the dimwit. Say i mean is incredible when you are such a big threat and the fact that she's been on the block now several weeks in a row. It got me thinking that what spencer did on big brother fifteen was nothing short of incredible to survive the blocks eight nine times whatever it was it. Most people don't survive arrived block once maybe twice but to be a week after week after week as a big threat <hes> you gotta. She's doing something right and i do think she's extremely advantaged aged bhai this bogus relationship they have but hey she's not the one who made this pittsburgh decision so can't fall for making the most of it fleming posed this question to you. Let's say one of them makes it to the final two the other one makes it four final three <unk> on the jury but not final three. Do they tell the jury hey hey do. They act reveal that because tommy wooden christie foolishly would but did you think either of them do that. I would definitely not if if i were them but i could see christie. Doing i mean rob. I think this is perfectly time for you to tell us what tommy beg christie on her way out the door not to do. Don't don't cast these votes. That's right. Don't tell anymore chrissy when when you're a juror. You can't tell anybody that we know each other. You can't tell her. Don't tell a soul you're crazy. If you tell anybody you can blow it for everybody yeah yeah. I think that christie is the kind of person that once she gets to the jury house she's going to killing her to not tell everybody everybody like. I kept secret the whole season and now i can't wait to tell you guys. Let's see the look on your face shields bam yeah. She's gonna take her proverbial bra right off and let it fly. I agree. I think she's going to basically do a diary of the mouth information formation dump. If she's ever added a game she will tell everyone every thought she's ever had the all you got his time in the house but then but then i mean play that out does that then go well from a c- a scenario where tommy may have gone had she not done that to where she goes in and totally just fucks up his game. You might risque hundred. Maybe that would be such as if you're what said is that i feel right now tommy is he's the person who has everyone when snowed. He's not playing any magical game or anything but six comes out loving him. Nick seems like he's he's feeling good with them. Jackson won't go after him. He's like the guy everyone's like. Oh i love tommy or oh. I never thought it would be the tommy so he's the person ever feels most connected to so i think they'd be totally hurt by the entire thing and i agree with you matt. I feel like that would be the real slap slap in the face of production right for the whole thing to go up in flames and then just have like nicole or holly win at that point. I think that would be a real last minute at the for the finale segment so delivery. Jay has a question <hes> eric. What would the summer of tommy podcast look like lots of splits right. I think the only thing i know about him. I watching him all summer but i really can't tell you you much much about him. I'm still plainly underbid taking the stance that i'm not going to insult tommy whatsoever because i really want him. The hook me up with broadway tickets when the season's over so. I think it'd be an amazing. I guess yeah that's right. That's where i'm sticking with yeah. I think that there would be a he could make a lot of dances as like there could be like some reenactments. Tommy might be somebody who's better at sort of like talking about what's going going on than actually being a character on the show matt. Tommy reminds me of like <hes> like if season fourteen will is reserve was walmart target. He nordstroms may be better like a more like an upscale upgraded version of will in that. They like the theatrics the yeah i get that vibe okay all right. If there's a question for you eric from derek eric <hes> who wants a whose face does eric look at when he wants to see home and has eric ever forgotten what baby dino the dog's bark sounds like of course that christie this week told us for them. Scientists of my dog sounds like i could never forget what the bark of my dog sounds like because he barks incessantly twenty three hours a day. You wish you could forget drilled into my head like a permanent migraine so i could never forget that as far as faces i see when i see home while i the big brother home apparently not welcomed at anymore mark. I'm christopher non grata. They made that very clear. When i reached out so eric you can never look at the big brother house and see home doc man you look at the big brother house and see home why it was what was the big brother. Love's you you. Yes this reminds me. I heard your discussion of this the other night. My favorite all time interlude from the voice in the sky was one time we got a danielle. Don't be a dick head. That was my favorite of all time. We don't be an asshole. You got addicted for real funny. How crazy idea yeah every once in a while. They'll slip into make sure that you're paying attention yeah. So how does that work is is the announcer guy in the booth or does he have those recorded now. They're all recorded so justifed assistive whoever's like working the shift is board the ally interact with you so if you wipe up the countertops occasionally they'll give you a thank you or something like that <hes> but also <hes> mostly reprimands in my case. I think i may have set the all time record for the you're not allowed to talk about your diary room room sessions with the other houseguests. I actually got called in for like a dead serious. Sit down with the e._p._a.'s like with all kinds of threats of penalty nam hidden and and fines if i continued to do so so it's mostly annoy inspite occasionally. They will sprinkle in a surprise treat for you yeah. This really blew my mind nine brother. Love's you yeah math. Did you ever get a pick me up from big brother announcer guy no i didn't but i will say about that particular one. That sounds like to me. I different <hes> different answer than stein said about to your question because i talked to don woman in my finale about <hes> just that kind of this kind of situation goes like weirdo once you get and he said they were some of them were prerecorded but there were times he said if he's wandering iraqis working in the shift shift that day he would go in and just like fuck around like live live do that sometimes now not so the sometimes it is actually don woman just at his shift go fucking around the office no pop into that would be a great competition. He should just do it all day long just trolling them and then they should ask them questions about it. Feel like that would play well. It also really bizarre and this is absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about but i was just thinking of the in this segment since last we spoke how weird was jackson jerry segment. Where do we go. They bury this guy every problem that ever existed in twenty one seasons show was his fault and now he's like has this weird bachelor in paradise like style segment where he's like all alone and he's all lapse in so campy i mean what are we supposed to feel about that. Actually the funny thing. Is it kind of works for me. I feel like he was like totally made up for his tyranny and horrible action. It's from earlier in the day and he's beloved now. Well i think what's going on is that they're preparing because they know it finale. This is going to be pregnant so they need to make him like look like a good dude. You know he served served this time. They dragged them and now. I guess they feel like that now. He's back back to square one because they talked about him. A comedic series of hijinks the jury house eric. Why don't we returned. Three's company in the jury house. It is a regular john ritter tripping over the couches in there and everything i feel like he he might be in line for like a a redemption ark where he shaves his head and comes back like completely reforms for a different season like he's. He's all tidied up. I'd like to see like the new and improved. Jack returns turn to the show behind his name. Is jack much like exactly on <hes>. Three's company. Could we come up with a premise for three's company. An episode from the jury house of jack cat insists living together matt we do this. This improv sure meter wooden podcasts on thursday night because i was on the podcast with with two women remain who are not we're born and not even thought at the time that show is that as a kid we didn't miss. They're fairly character for like three <hes> who could get it would be either. Mir met mr roper era. I feel like we have lots lots of larry's in the world that we have covered easily ever podcast larry uh-huh legal beagle out of the airport when the girls get off the show. The legal is actually the o'hare chilies texting cami. I loved you on the show. I'll see you at the beagle girl eric. What would be the pilot episode of jury. Three's company. I think it's most likely and this is not even it's just probably just a jury threesome. It's most likely the plot of the company by with the cat had been there all of what thirty seconds before she was sitting in his lap so <hes> like when this arrived she's a whatever or feels good kind of gal they probably just ran with it now awkward when nick arrived and tried to interject himself into this yeah well nick is definitely going to be odd hadman out in the jury house matt guys yeah try to <hes> i inject themselves into all sorts of different scenarios in in in the big brother house. You guys dealing a <music> room for me yeah. We'll we'll see what nick's going to be able to do what once he gets. Let's talk about a person who could potentially go out of the house this week on thursday night. We talked about just very much avenue thoughts on jess. Look every season needs there. Kathy and we add jess so i love her for all those same <unk> issues terrible. The grades rates for all the reasons that she you know you don't ever want to say a big brother players crepe. She is <hes> <hes>. I think that they should keep around at that. I don't know that they're going to man. I'm curious to hear your stance because we haven't gotten the chance to discuss this with your yet. How did nick a- and jess make it through the casting process emphasise so potentially three a potential evictees in a row. How did they sit down spend ping time interviewing these people and then decide you know what i need to see. One hundred days of them just least puzzling yeah. Assists suck at nick is the the absolute light total mystery jessica. She feels this unfulfilled void yet. At least it's something new. She's like a decent look a plus size <unk> like whatever they haven't had that. I don't think so i that makes sense. Just wanna toss around even if she's walked at great at anything else beyond filling a you know this this archetype right and then the ops like super smoking hot athletic chick so whatever she can a total dim weight who cares doesn't brother cares. I can't i'll giving is the mystery part of the puzzle was they had a ton of people and they were they were looking at also okay. We can put this person on love island but this person on big brother like all seriousness i. I think that she was sort of like in like a big pile of like we have a lot of hot people. We're gonna put some into big brother who put some of them into the love island but nick nick. I know with all due respect. I got on the wrong flight then. They should have sent search. I think she could have one violin conceived yeah but it's like a movie where then like they were walking down the halls of c. B. s. with like the stack of headshots going to love island and like a breeze. He's blew her head shot into the wrong pile and she ended up in the big brother house. Nobody caught the mistake but yeah matt back issue with <hes> with nick. You're gonna explain how nick out on big brother no. I was going to explode out mix ashley. No fucking sets on nicholas got him big brother. He's the most puzzling one he's he's not yeah i mean i don't know i shouldn't be saying this. I'm not into dudes but i don't think he's super attractive probably if you if you were into the dudes and dragged his haircut. I think we can these that. I must say. It's ugly. It's just not you know he's not i candy. He's boring as they come despite his. I mean you must have clip or something of him. Saying how funny he is right to julie god yeah so he's really just he's just a mess on all counts. I don't get it. I mean i've seen myself off with my shirt off recently. He looks about like he's writing. Eric stein's midlife body at this point so that's not threes in certainly was it wasn't for the eye candy. I mean he was a real creep which is ground. We've covered time and time again on the show before so he's not newark type i just i really don't know i they tried to bill in preseason as being woke which which in itself is really nothing. I don't think anyone needs to see for the show but then he was super super not at all aware in that way so right i mean what was he was. He bill horne dog was he. There you go and that's another weird thing so then as is puzzling as it is you okay. How does he get to the show but then he does he hits net jackpot gets on and then he's like. They're multiple people that are letting him impa that man handled and men and women and you go what what is it. What's with this guy. Maybe when you're in person with him something happened. Maybe he's got a mist of of some kind that gives us an appeal that we as viewers just cannot fucking see in any way you i mean. He reminds me a lot. All season of <hes> like scotty from last year in terms of like you kept waiting for the moment you were going to see like okay here it comes. They're about to turn it on and thank you never never never happens. You know it's like you're waiting and it's all going to click and he was just biding his time and then he was going to take complete control. The game never took any control. I agree but he must. He must be some sort of sex appeal or magnetism that is just not coming through the screen right. Well i wondered in casting matt. He might have really just like talking up his game and like how diabolical to borrow your word that he was going to be on the show. Yeah i don't know because i feel like a lot of people do that so he would just get tossed in the mix. I'm really puzzled as to what what deals you must be just something you must have stuff that i i was afraid to meet him like what if what if i fall for him yeah theat keep him at a distance to be safe. I i thought of you met <hes> <hes> when christie kept swearing on her sister and i was thinking it could be some next level strategy to go into the house with fake loved ones in relative. It's where on all the time i feel. I feel like you you sort of brought that to the universe and now maybe christie. Has you know refined for a new generation except she she does have a sister and she lied all the time but you know that's neither here nor there. It would have been a good strategy if she had completely fabricated manifested it some would say <hes> yeah. No i agree. I mean i kinda right. I took the easy way out. Just faking a disease that could have faked an entire human being would have this in casting by the way was is this part of your process of getting on the show or did you surprise production with surprise production. Masai was kind of it wasn't a very well thought out plan and all at any the point is this part of the reason that you are not a cliff a maniac that you feel like that cliff has done all this talking about his wife and has not made up a fake disease to give her the house. Yeah it'd pandering to his wife dancing zing and i don't like the hands up into d._r. All the time that's just so irritating me for some reason hands up in the diary what you're talking thing about him so put your hands down man all the time. It's like he doesn't like druggy explaining moving. It's kind of like feeling feel bad about myself and that s k three one four sided wanna fuck into here his dad. I doubt but he's like he's a little ruthless. I like his game play but then everything else is terrible the dancing wife enough enough. I noticed that i think five of the final seven year our five of the older people in the house which was the same thing as it was on my season and and <hes> i was i was wondering if like maybe just the older players are a little bit more level or maybe ladies wanted a little bit more so you know they just go the extra mile to try and keep themselves there or you know i don't know i thought this is just an actual observation but i was. I was ruminating on this the other other day and was thinking there has to be something to this. They did that happen on your season or the older players. Some of the game players not really right now if he definitely definitely a powerhouse play and regular jail on my end zone next oldest followed by andrew yea yea good theories died. Yes yes all the master strategy wanted i met. Do you have a good read on who is going to win the game. That's why that's why i kinda dig. What's happening the season. That's specifically what why i think nicole has the lee shot and it's unfortunate because i like her as a character but <hes> yeah other than that. I think it could go anywhere eric. Do you feel like you have a sense of how this is going. I think it's probably going to be a tommy. You're christie win. His is my gut instinct. Holly i think think has played for my money. The cleanest traditional big brother game to keep your nose add things and to do just just enough to insulate yourself and be well protected by your allies. I mean i've liked her positioning and tommy's positioning all game but i really think they have sunk awesome selves with the way they've handled these last few weeks of power and i still cannot get myself to a place where cliff wins not because he wouldn't win the vote but because is everyone knows they would lose a vote to him and i come back to this all season long is that he is you'd have to be out of your mind to bring this man to the final two with you so i think he is in my estimation. The least likely to be sitting in the final two of the remaining players. I and the coles gonna have a tough argument to make this point unless she goes on some sort of a crazy copies run which does not seem that likely she does not have a strong argument for having dictated this action at all i mean if you really think about it kristie jackson and jack i would say say have dictated the vast majority of the evictions this this season and everyone sees christie and jackson as those threats now they might get picked off along this way. I don't know i still feel like whoever's left sitting there of of tommy. You're christie is the likely winner. What do you guys do. What do you think yeah. I been on tommy all season long. I feel like he's going to win but i wonder if it could be just like the nineteenth season of big brother in a row where that tommy gets to the end loses to people that somebody inferior are who the jury doesn't want to give it to tommy. I think that's definitely in the realm of possibility one of the things i've been struggling with is i think these are the six best s. players of the season but that kind of speaks to why it's a middle of the road season for me because they're not that great so gotta win but i mean. Are you going to be seeing yeah. I mean i guess i guess i could talk myself into jackson christie or tommy as having been deserving winners but the other three three. It's it's tough for me to feel like <hes> but then again can you talk yourself into casey and nicole and morgan and josh eve. It's been awhile guides been a minute. Is there any way that the season could play out d- paul abrahamian could come in second place. Is that something if he gets in now and we know that i think he's got a good shot at it. The paul final two yeah america voted in paul's coming back pulse. Come back in let me ask a jess question for for matt. Melissa wants to know what famous movie scenes could. We put justice screaming fall into now matt. You are famously a big horror guy. Could we put justice scream into any movie psycho. Go shower scene would actually be really funny. That's a great idea that somebody do that. Okay so and map before. I q this up. Then who in this scenario is <music> norman bates <hes>. Who can you cast this also cow. Well no rebates shit. I guess a good is shifted. Some bassetti really be somebody else has to it yeah dress if someone dressed like garage shower jessica exactly it's frankie ah frankie dressed as gardner breaking into the big brother house little jessica showering or is it <hes> is it my brother kurti and his dad kissing on the lips i also the big brother shower has come up. <hes> quite a bit this season so far eric yeah i think being shower okay so what a way to go for her for jess eric that scene were jackson was telling her this week about how she was going to be going up on the block. Here was her reaction. Shen people think that i am this like memory like like like like person like i'm not that person. You know what i mean like like life like i sucked walks. It's one of the reasons they need to clean out the showers. This is bad. I if i have been watching that and i was in the production offices at that point in time i would have called her. The diary removes like one of was video newscasters stroking out. I was i was worried. I l lady what is happening here. Is there was so stunned say they would watch the beads because i got the impression that was edited like they kept putting extra lights. Go down like that yeah that i own my god. They do that right eric. They don't like like like like the footage together in like a conversation right now. I think that it was you're like like like i think it was like when she was really saying admits admits other than what is it miss south carolina the like such as that you don't talking about oh yea pageant some amazing grace all yeah. She was okay just a bit of an old buzzard well. She was the one person ever that. She put in her bio for age. She said ah thirty ish there. She said yeah. I think that was supposed to be part of her character. I think she was supposed to be like a real grande. Dame diva diva tasteless character grandma that kind of a casting miss there air with just disagree. I think it was a a great guest. Well not for what they've thought maybe but i don't think she was in on the joke though she's still aware in in that way right i think they they finally found their footing. I think what really the season started started to pick up is when they realized that the viewers more or less hate everybody and she started just shitting on the entire cast in the end and i think that's where it started actually getting fun. They just started making everyone look like the morons that they actually are when they were trying to protect everyone not as fun now that they're just going all in on it. I think they you know they're finding finding the kernels of goodness in everybody at least from the entertainment standpoint yeah. The interesting thing about jess is that she was the person who who made the biggest move of the season where she put jack jack in jackson on the block and then got jack out of the house and somehow matt her narrative is she is a super boring idiot who is now going to go out of the house and is getting the dodo music i i'm still offer that edit because that happened to her. In a week that i mean it was just so obvious obvious and there were people in her ear. You know it is while week h. O. age. You really not a joy at your weekend. Was kinda like so yes. She did the deed. I guess a very obvious deed. I don't know i don't think that alone seltzer as why are they doing this jessica. She's a she's a definite all star bring her back. I bring her back okay. Let me ask a question for matt. Hoffman zadie taryn wants to know. Is it a compliment being mistaken format klein's. Can you talk about a recent tweet that you received the matt hoffman. Yes someone is really was like the first defensive charlton me like decade and they they were booted. Can't see what it is that yeah oh you realize you're yet it said okay. I think you have the wrong b._b. Met and congrats on being the first troll in nearly a decade to offend me. So what was the tweet tweet that you received from this person who then went ahead and i guess this is a fifty fifty yeah well. How about fifty fifty fifty. Somebody pulls me into some conversation with <hes> j._c. At i don't know who does winston or k._c. Your battery <unk> from that season and they start talking about their eating cereal and then i get tagged some guy much cereal as this guy you know it's like come on man i mean i may not be relevant or memorable but <hes> <hes> still don't tarnish whatever my legacy is with that dude. I feel like there's there's been three bb mats and action like the other two but the third bb man. It's just like rough was from the big brother nine your life trajectory is probably more apt to lean steer closer to behave has been met klein's u._s. Not sure sure sure either but anyway. You're looking at this wrong. Is there any way you can parlay this into raven sending nudes. Ah i just just give it give me like a week. Maybe you can assume his identity and see what happens. I am hey. I wanted her bomb as a non benson during your season i think she liked me ever since that point does she. We know about that. I can't imagine you are if you i'm saying from your current. Handle from all mike hey. I'm thinking of rekindling things between us. Let's start talking again. Yeah okay had to change my twitter. Handle things were getting out of control. Change my picture then show me your stars or something right and then and then you can also dropping to a baller the things up and running the business together before you get busted by the same guy that came after the zing <music> bud man thing about that latest performance by your buddy big addict johnson. It's say i don't know starting to leave me a little bit. I think the gag hire a different actor for god's sakes yeah. You don't like it feeling a little tired to me. I was just thinking about the big brother eric's. Neither real aw that's right goes. We did the man who asked not ranking them. You can the can you trick people played with them. You are them so. I still haven't forgiven you. Voting yeah the lights out bitches event a happy right right there any after she would know stylish. You have your picture. You'd have to you have to do. You have to be a little more sneaky to do that. What yeah who are the other any other big big brother eric besides you must be yeah. I don't know i think i think we're the only three that's third firefighter eric lisa lisa show manson myself. That's it. I think <hes> do for another disgrace one. I think we average hype between the three eric's trouble five cute little older. Maybe i don't know you think the firefighter may have been five five nine. Maybe yeah all the manse share that quality that we all have poor decision making for i do think that eric littmann wittman copy could go could catfish somebody and say that you're he's you and you've lost your hair now actually a full meal with maggie before i realized that that's who i was sitting with selective easily a forty five minute lunch and i've seen every episode of the show so i do. I think that <hes> you could come back in a big way. If we plan this out correctly new idea for bb twenty two we get <hes> we cast the three bats the three the eric we get the three wills willie hansel heiser dr will kirby. We get like another three three months long house and it's the address mike mike mike dutt's passed on. I love about this how i love the wheels. I like the feel like a you know like the chills probably going out early on that season. You know their options trips. It's going to be a big moment for will from a fourteen day that will occur be would not be headboard with us now. I've got another scam that we could try to pull of that. Could i potentially start to convince house guests to you know get them on on the show more that i am a big brother rob or robert is there. Are there any others besides being brother ford's rally rumble fish. I feel like you. You probably know enough about erica that you could say that. I was that guy. I'm robert fry. I was on big brother four. Who would look that. Let's just let's test this out for a second like hey robert. Have you seen g lean no not recently. I haven't seen i've kept up with anybody. The my season lists like seventeen years ago. Yeah i believe in x. factor. It was crazy. I really can't bend reason for of guests that seemingly don't even know that you were on survivor big brother. I think i'm rhonda something you guys. This is great. This is <hes> ratings juggernaut this subject now you see why the summer of nine win from once a week to every like <music> hey we're going to be live in new york for yes well. Is it going to be mere. Is it going to be capping yeah yeah. Is it going to be a robber roman. I couldn't produce a man's last name. If my life literally depended on yes well luckily i'm a very quiet and fast google's thinking aka. You are robert roman yes yes. That's one of my my <hes>. One of my skill set okay. Show tucker wants to know from this cast. Who would you pay the most money to receive a cameo from them now matt. Are you still cameo owing. Oh oh i am cameo in it is love cameo hammy owing doing not a not enough enough mat hoffman's cameo be sure to check it out. Oh it's great great. Gallagher's on cameo is not yet. Maybe cameo shit introduced a bartering system where you can treat cameo for cameo go back and forth with each other and say that way now if mac and finally someone else says price level he could go back and forth with them. I think that would be nice yeah. I do feel like you know coming out of this. This season sam is in a strong lead for strongest cameo of this cast. I don't know if anyone i catt might do an okay he job. I feel like they might yeah. She's not going to top that. You know. I think a few ways but i don't think he i komo. Probably i mean nick i. I'd be interested in that area that nick. I think you have to probably pay him to stop sending sending you cameos yeah. I feel like i mean tommy is probably a strong cameo game because they might be doing some happy birthday songs. We've we've seen that trick times before right. I think that he probably is going to be really good at it but people do p._r. People going to want a lot of time. He can emeal's against the n. wanting to hear from most of these people ever again. I mean i know that all stars is but a figment of our imaginations surfaced but hard pressed to see a huge clamoring to see most members of the bb twenty-one cast ever again really on television i agree. There's not like it's not that they're like offensive but there's no standouts. They're just very fair probably agree why who's making the cotton batman for all yeah. I thought we just cast all stars. Didn't we just go through that yeah. I think that just it in all seriousness. I feel like that christie is lost and i feel like that. Jackson is is coming back. Jackson's going straight great to the challenge. If you had to put a gun to my head and say who are we most apt to ever see back on big brother as a contest in <hes> <hes> i would say it's got to be christie for sure cat coming in second for me. Then jackson and i'll give david the fourth place live. What does the winner change things like. I feel like that nicole has come on strong in the t._v. Show like if she ends up winning winning the showed the change things i don't think so i really think that she is more of a fan favorite than true contributor to the game or entertainment entertainment. I just not a needle mover. I can't imagine people you know seeing that commercial and say. I wasn't going to watch this upcoming season but damn bend ben cole or highly are back. You know now. I'm in sis is going to be there. This is incredible. You know i i don't know i think that's been one of the things they've been lacking not not a a lot of real breakout people to root for and also it's in recent years disqualifying factor. If you're a good player you're you're not normally brought back so they can good game play to be boring so <hes> it's more you're more likely to bring back the devan sort of the shit stirs who they know are going to be totally uncontainable in terms of their personality no matter what i don't even know who that would even be like someone like a chemi or bella l. at type drama and less there for the the game. Okay rabin's wants to know hey the matt which diamond veto flop you worse yours or christie's p._s. I love you. The question is all in good fun. Oh god is really starting to get broken up over big disclaimer ri- being i hope christine <unk>. Didn't she only ever diamond power veto because she started calling. It never really was right. I really operate. It didn't even operate in that capacity. I didn't believe that big brother called it a diamond power veto veto but i think that's very different than the other data bowers la bain figured. It's probably nobody on production remembered. How your diamond video. It worked well. Whatever it was mine was worse saturday. I did a terrible thing. A terrible job is terrible. Players drive ins. You really got me. Thanks how did it compared impaired to the time that you raised your voice during the big fight with paul in raven and like all etched in throwing they're actually yelling at you and i can't remember. I want to say that mark was a lot remark is really a surprisingly thirsty man. I didn't know i randomly followed him on took over the first time like a few days ago because i'll this stuff is so great. I think to see him neck <hes> exciting so matt. You and mark are no longer feuding. Who's this committee uses why you invite me boy yeah okay. This is a good question in that came to us from sh merrick sh- mind by the way is <hes> sh sh mary's shrine that is is this a troll account that only talks about you. It feels a ted antisemitic. I didn't want to throw it out there but yeah i i hear where you're coming from. I did not flakes okay. Do you want me to <hes>. Should i say throughout the question. I think we should throw the question. She probably report them. Good luck with that. Mrs probably intended for eric linneman anyway. Okay oh ah witch event from this season should get a oral history treatment from dalton ross hashtag summer of stein. Did you read the twenty thousand thousand word oral history at dan's funeral this week eric. I did not because i think that dance funeral is the most overrated figure rated in all of c._b._s. Reality history they gave the man to vetoes to play in that week lost both of them and then he bamboozled jen city eighty. This was not all that glorious. All it would've taken is one singular strong-willed player to say no dan. We know what you're doing. We're we're voting you out and that would have been the end of dance funeral so i am not going to read this. I i heard it was it was great. I heard podcast. I am not doing doing any work that i'm most certainly not insulting danielle at all. I wanna be clear drench. Yeah i wanna make a combatants personal problem with her. Actually i do. I only met her once and she she was complaining incessantly about everything and it was like two in the afternoon and she i'm so tired. I'm i'm just so sick. Not doing anything and i said you know what lady have a cup of coffee red bull. Don't tell me that. I don't need to have any caffeine. I'm just tired would jesus eric and she was really foul about it. I was yeah yeah no but i just say it's not exactly like if you really stood untangling tangling miss and i maybe they explained it in the oral history but shane danielle and jenn city. I mean boy boy. What a stud player that trick them well. It was unnecessary like everyday effective. It all happened after in like you could have just gone and talked to frank. I don't know i agree occur. You is like it was the actress but it was not essential in any way whatever down after the veto and all this stuff i actually thought that was a flaw in in his game because because of the theatrics because he made people feel stupid about what they were doing like he loved rubbing it in their faces and making them look like doc acid so i don't know maybe somewhere if maybe if i get the audio version of dalton out the words yes i have to give a lot of credit for the spectacle of it because <hes> it made for very very exciting television but only agreeing now don't forget his six weeks of immunity for being a coach or out and it was only like four it was only playing the game and he gave all of his players terrible advice and strong players on the other teams because he knew that and he came in with the lions with the other four coaches but i mean he's yeah matt. I did get into a little bit of a feud with danielle. After i talked about how that she i thought would give her social security number two dan kiessling if she was a left alone in a room with her now and she said that what you know what i have a personal problem with her and i just want to say that i don't i played big brother full ten seasons before she was even on on the show and if she wants to talk to me at the next big brother reunion you know i'm perfectly willing to have that conversation partner awesome all the dancing your daddy a._t._m. Alison june skull squad here the natural when she up to new york and she coming to the paddle next week. When i go out for a beer with jacco and then we'll we'll we'll talk at all over all right so then bb twenty two. We have jacko ins each other jack from this and we can project jackson was the c._i._a. Or f._b._i. Jack owens f._b._i. Magic and this jack jack go into these shaker in the fridge in this shack is like reading the i feel like we might be on this here. Guts i would want. I would watch this season. Okay nice alright. Return of jack's turn of the jacks matt hopping who's going home in the double eviction <hes>. I think it'd be great. It's like yeah time kristie one and then sent jackson cool eric you buying that jackson in the second part of the h._o._a. Or the veterans going home. I i think jackson's a definite possibility but i will go with holly as collateral damage because i think jacksonville most likely win like a quick hit veto competition when they have a finite amount of time. It'll probably be some sort of you know clown shoe of it. Also i think that jackson is the likely winner and i think they'd rather jackson. Instead production has been getting lucky with the evictees. The last couple of weeks and i don't think they'd be super hard-pressed to lose holly here so <hes> i. I think you know obviously depends on the power swing. I wouldn't give her the top odds and i would say probably probably christie's second. Tommy should be the second best choice. But when did they ever send out the correct target so i'll give holly christie. That's a good point about the veto because if it is the cloud shoe on your jackson probably win that but then they might go the route of like the e in the you know the ball and i don't think he'd have shot that one now. I always feel you like to go like worse case scenario so i feel like either clifford. Nicole is going to go home in the double. Action never goes well all. I really think that i i'm just as the person who so many times we get so excited. Fiction okay here comes something great. It's going to happen and it ends up. Being whatever we most don't want to happen happens as a viewer undeniably on there's any argument between collectively undeniably that cliff is a is a better player than nicole but you think in the house the house perception of data they all aware of that is while or in cliff if is better yeah i think so too. I got choked up there for a moment. That's why i didn't chime in because i was the victim of a ballgame veto. During the double eviction and i remember actually my my head space at the time you need to win this to stay in the house and then balls started falling calling from the sky and then i looked up at that stupid ogre zach and he was six foot six or something like that and i thought thought to myself boy i think he's going to have a much easier time catching these than me and ten minutes later i was out so snuck good. I don't like hearing about ballgames during w. Fiction vetoes i. I think i could see cliff going to i do. I stand by my claims that they know that cliff is bare minimum a jury threat so he could be collateral damage as well. I actually think nicole is probably the least likely to go in this situation because irene double a good time. Take a swing at least get out. Somebody who's in your way and i don't think anyone seeing the call in that slot right now. Yeah i think jackson winning the veto. Now i think you can pencil that in and then i feel like something unpredictable happens from there depending on who the h._r. Wages and who knows who knows that's that's thursdays as problem. We got still a couple more days to go until van matt hoffman this was this was so much fun to get to catch up. This was so fun. I laughed a lot. I don't know if other people would join this as much as i did but i had a lot of fun yeah this. This was more for us like we just like. I had a call and caught on any wanted to listen and they they they could feel a lot of banter that occasionally rob okay guys. Let's just wrangle in a bbc question here so we got it yeah in all fairness. I should let you know that we did reach out to clients. I kline's jerks all jurors you can you catfish us all right the matt. If people wanna find you on social media. Where do they go to find the great matt hoffman right it was easy to you spell and remember at head of off hold on twitter but more importantly half maniacs signed me on cameo b twelve met for quality content direct your inbox <hes> that's an instagram. It's art stuff you be fans. Don't care about it. Don't worry not important not important not important gordon not important for the reality t._v. community. I can't be given out my twitter anymore. After what happened with the andrew pump guy. I'm i'm changing my handle to stein for clients given given the sh- weinstein guys and i'm having him removed. He sends his picture is of you. I don't like it all very creepy. Yeah okay all right of course eric. Sign is going to be part sort of. I'm starting to promote a twitter professes for promoting schmidt schmidt. I'm going to promote the old school fat hog men profile on twitter. It's a troll roll account of when i used to be fat and someone made back when i was on big brother so that's my role a challenge to everybody follow fed okay fat hog man if i remember correctly. I believe that said it's something to that effect fat at all. What did they tweet about it. They still tweet just thought about it until this schmear expired guide talk on the fan argument so i'm at m. a. l. i. n. S. giant. I five at matt klein's fit all right well eric eric signs. It'll be part of our big. Show coming up on next. It's thursday night. Erica excited for the live show. What's the status of the real life fonder oh well. I haven't made that yet but i do think it would be quite enjoyable joyal so i will get a poster board and my magic markers out and get cranking on that and i am legitimately really excited i. I think it's going to be a lot of fun lot of big personalities to fit in one room and i think we're gonna have a good episode as well. I think it's going to be a blast. I'm excited. How 'bout you yeah. I'm very excited as well. <hes> it's been a couple of years since we've done the live <hes> big brother show and so. I think it's gonna be a fun night next thursday. I was hoping we get the double eviction but we got a week early. We could rewatch it instead instead of okay well. Let's see how it goes. It'll be a great episode if it's an alzheimer yeah like a d._v._d. Commentary like we'll go back like there. I was last thursday. Hey yeah for recant recap of the recap the double yeah we could do that live in front of <hes> in front of the audience all right great stuff off from eric stein and matt hoffman a pairing that who knows when we'll get the the two of you together again as as often as possible often we had that would lower the experience. It was great. It was a lot of fun. Thank you for letting me inveigh edano. This is going to be a regular thing you can have guests or is this not a regular. Is there anybody else that would talk to us. Less and less people are responding my tax excel. I'd say it's probably going to be mad every other week basically from an alley apolo kelsey ordered and maybe do the season finale. It's dangerous very dangerous very dangerous. He's he. He has a high fee to book him on the podcast so we have to steer clear. He's not a fan okay all right well. Thanks everybody who made it through which is a of smaller and smaller number but we did it yeah the summer of half the summer summer of half extra bringing bringing me in when you need a ratings boost and i don't think i might have served the purpose but we're we're. We're trying to get a season three pickup right now. It's being doing stunts and zip. We'll find out soon if we jumped the shark. Just now sweeps right out yeah. This is sweeps week. So how are we doing forecast. Forecast isn't looking great not not looking that great but thanks again for letting everybody take care have a good one bye i wake up in the morning and i'm feeling good and loving is founded by the time i checked my twitter and start abusing sad and bitter. I regret my already steadying dead.

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Big Brother 21 Thursday July 4 Morning Update

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Big Brother 21 Thursday July 4 Morning Update

"Carrying on john dorsey dry day no strategy is on the way today we will see you know we we gave you know one day he could do to morrow he will delay in lower everyone and good morning welcome to our live feed update for july fourth america and armstrong and with me today is mary how you doing man happy fourth everyone thank you so much for taking time come and listen to this podcast i promise we've got some good things talk so i'm excited to be here yes a yes we are here to talk about everything that happened on the live feeds yesterday and a really inquiry yesterday i mostly mean last night yeah does nothing really happened during the day really i mean meal hair cut those turned out great haircuts yes a the bangor gone mhm yep yup a it could be worse but now see personally i think if you're going to take time to vacuum the whole house maybe wait till after the hair cuts are done but i made in things like that so well you know not everyone of those murders you marry yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry oh that's okay fayette they spent a lotta time cutting all be old hair out of the vacuum cleaner so maybe i just wanna mess with that at all look they they lie they enjoy their current relationship with hair they don't wanna form a new relationship with hair by battling big hair monster yeah yeah exactly yes of course we end up has to be a conviction episode the live show where ob is evicted by unanimous vote and then a what would they would like some sort of like camp announcement sound like yeah even trumpeting like i do do you like that that's great and of course everyone thought that that men a power had been playing at first they they were just like ignoring it maybe they just continue to do what they were doing until finally the voice came on us yeah look nor sounds in the big brother house they probably don't mean anything i would've loved probate actually try an open the door i don't know if it would have been locked or david would have just been standing there on the other side like oh shoot like they probably were just like i'm not sure if this is supposed to be happening and i don't wanna ruin the show so i'm just gonna keep going until i'm told otherwise yeah that would be my biggest flaw and the show is just anytime anything happens just completely breaking whatever i was doing invest in these everyone get back everyone get back to the living in ob looks at the hill everyone like me and then over goes goes and sits down and julie's like please put you're microphone back on over you and then she doesn't hear him when he says oh it's still there julie i just took my pins off and we'd be like me to put my pins back on andrew and it's like yeah ob it's a live show we need you're microphone on during a live show and he's like okay i'll put my pins back on i'm sorry julie yeah i noticed that too i i i'm guessing he was taking the pen off to give it to someone as like a good by president by julie just missing that and braiding him was pretty funny 'em end so of course over his probably like okay what kind of puzzle am i gonna have to complete here but of course they're told that this is a new twist it's camp comeback back which is a essentially a you know extinction island except without a separate island and hopefully not during the second half of the game because ob an also david who comes running in and everyone is so fake happy to see him a they're both gonna be living upstairs in the camp comeback room yeah my riverdale podcast we do a segment where we talk about the cringe iast things happen in the week end just leave you fake excitement of when anyone is not actually voted out is the worst part about big brother like just skip that i would just like one season where everyone can just be honest and say oh shoot guess that was pointless if my whole eight george with terrible mary happened christine manifested this she really wanna she felt so bad for over talking about needing to get him out and if he came back in the shoot exposes power and send him right back out the door she manifested that situation where he's still in the house in might come back into the game because she wanted it to happen mary yeah they all want it to happen so much that they all collectively voted him out twelve do there oh mhm that's how works right when you really wanna keep someone it's like it's like reverse right it's like like gulf rules you have to stay so when you get a perfect score like when you get all of the questions wrong in a test it's just so tired getting the right it's funny you mentioned gulf rules because there's been speculation about how how is the person going to return and julie said they have to work on their social game while they're gone a lot of people have been speculating that maybe the house is going vote for somebody to return as well by if you mean by a lot of people you mean crispy cream really really really hoping this is the case will chrissy end a lot of v audience as well and i personally think that would be a terrible idea because you know maybe it kind of works in a big brother three in particular time but it was what's taking place but in a modern day season in this season if the house cats have to vote one of them back and then they're just gonna vote in whoever's best friend the majority alliance and it's just gonna be yet another thing that helps out the majority line let's say jack somehow leaves next week you we're gonna have to make some let the house just vote him right back in because he's still such a huge target 'em it'd be very unfortunate so so my my my thought was what if they did majority vote a keeps people out it's gulf rules the personnel least amount of votes come back that's actually pretty pretty good and i thought that's kind of unfair to the people who were campaigning out i mean they they bring this up a lot during the day i david talks about her during the evening david mentioned a lot to like why would we be staying in the house if not forever some kind of social reason to get us back in nobody's just like yeah i think it's just so that when we get back in the game whoever it is is not completely lost and immediately kickback how because they actually had a chance to stay in the house and keep on i like going over in china think because survivor i would prefer someone to get back in the game based on the people who are still in they're having a say you're having a voter something like that and i don't know what it is about my psychology watching big brother maybe it's just the rooting for the underdog that i really want it to be in their hands and i'm not sure what that says about me i dunno i don't i don't want the house votes and back in because that's probably the best way to get whoever's out force back in however i'm going to be saying a very different tune if it's like clifford nikola tommy you're somebody who's out once again yeah so you know will will will see will will find out eventually i'm sure a so that's that would be episode of course then we saw the h o h competition take place i nick was the first person out of the competition he was pretty upset about that or at least a really talk about how upset he was about that and then we came down to jessica and jack era jack in jessica and in that moment of like jessica the go why isn't you named jim when it comes down to the okay so jack jessica final two in this competition and then of course we see jack ultimately winning a so jack is are new future wage and a i've i just feel like this is kind of a continuation of what i was talking about yesterday jack ruins everything yeah i have a great quote from jack early on in the day when he's talking to i think it's sam and he says you know a this week the reason everything is going so crazy is just because i'm gaming too hard i'm just gave me to heart and i can't wait for next week after be opiate addiction when i can take a step back and things will just be chill and i'm not gonna try as hard yeah happen yeah jacket he now he's he's a man of of two worlds a world where he hates when offers he wants to you know play because he's he's a good guy and he's full of integrity integrity and then the world of truth worlds i i would have been happy when anyone but jack when i'm not i'm not sure i mean that and to be fair like i don't claim to be unbiased but jack is extremely entertaining on this show just for i think it was robbie with saint last night be element of craziness but he throws in here and just he's very much like debbie and you know just throws everything at the wall i cannot help but be so out front that it's just really unsustainable retaining providing a lot of entertaining feed last night he he threw two house meetings in one night after one night of being a jew age he held a house meeting and then held a house meeting about the first house meeting where he would just i just wanna make sure everyone is on board with that first house meeting and i just want everyone to it you know signed their consent form essentially about the first house meeting makes it everyone's on board with all the house meetings and are in are are are thesis is here yeah we get into it i mean i i it's slowly watched the first meeting twice that i could word for word right down jack speech craze like my favorite part okay so let's get into the jaguars are into h m lots of stuff going to be happening and this is a you know this twist is gonna make my life more difficult than the next to me because it usually gets easier as time goes on a to update the live feeds but it's not often you see a full sixteen people in the house and and that's gonna be the case fear first two weeks so the good thing about evictions is that i can stop having to follow every one in listen everyone talking take notes on them and it makes it easier and they were going to be only fourteen people in the house of so a bank you big brother i so lots of stuff happening here at jackson is gonna talk to david even apologize for banishing michigan says all you know i'm i thought you were gonna come back in a few comeback yeah i know you were supposed to get what am i now yeah i i i passed the ball man you dropped it that's that's what it is but the response to that is just hey what can i say man it was dark in there which is great i really i really liked david attitude though coming back in with only one house okay buddy well that you know what i'm probably not be only one of me outside of the house like he he really looks at it as like i think he's had he's had two weeks to sit there and go oh my gosh i went into this challenge against three people that i should have beaten just looking at it as you know a physical competition be odds were completely in my favor and i lost so that tells me i cannot count my chickens like i cannot assume anything anything can happen i don't even know people ask him a couple of times who do you want to be put up 'cause you might have to battle against them and he just said you know what doesn't matter i could lose to anyone so whatever and i think that's a good he's looking at it that way and not in hey yeah i'm the best i can clearly beat these people again or something yes a date i do think david has a great attitude about it which of course means it everybody in the house things but a here's a terrible attitude about it yeah and maybe that's just me but i think he's also hiding a little bit of how much he understands the game or at least his perspective on people to be other houseguests he's definitely playing up hey i don't even know what's going on oh do do we do we stay up late what time do we go to bed do we have rules who's sweeps the floor guess it's gonna be me i'm in the end they definitely do that yeah i i liked that he's trying though it's it's good to see that instead of instead of the image that they're all painting on him which i think is a little bit inaccurate a so so david david to jackson faces you know it's all good it's all fine don't worry about it m jackson jackson i'm gonna talk about nominations a centrally the jackets and i talked about this last night on podcast but jack said that he wants to nominate jess an kenny but a but you know kinda cool the back door near grant line on this guy m y what if we back doored nick in jackson the media's not enough dish camp comeback remember he's gonna stay here he's gonna he's gonna run his mouth all week you're gonna come back in the game we can do that we can't do that until camp comeback is over a we have to stick the grateful dead now more than ever yeah which is is true and i know you guys mentioned it last night that people there's benefits the most are the people who got in the majority alliance right away because it's time to guam onto each other and just say alright you know what there's a twist twist like what big brother thanks twist ten to to unify the alliance's more than they break them up so if you're all for throwing chaos in there is at least not the type of twitch to do that yes i completely agree a so i've been telling you know i i feel like big brother has a majority alliance problem and survivor had that to where there were lots of things that were going on and survivor through more twists and i think that those twits did did actually kind of help survivor but it's the opposite with big brother 'em you know some of those twits helps us on a big big brother natural format is what prevents the majority alliance is from succeeding that's it's why you never really saw one big majority alliance dominating any season until we started introducing a large amount of twist into the game a you know once we get into a even even starting to get into something like a big fifteen with the mvp twist well that was going there is a large majority alliance they dominated wants it stopped things starting interesting british sixteen battling the block seventeen while that on the block what's happening a luckily we had vanessa but even then things were much more stable while it was still going it goes on and on and on and this is just the latest in a long time the fundamental difference between the two shows is that the twist the big brother throw in tend to be just chaotic oh here's a person coming back in here's someone that you know we're going to have any random power like be mvp twister something and that causes people to be more afraid and wanna clean together and stick to what they know which survivor there twist had to do with splitting people up in shuffling people around a lot so that you couldn't just remain with that same group of people when you're all living in a house that doesn't really work and i wonder if there's a way where big brother could have a type of twist it said you know for these next instead of doing pairs but they do a lot of times you were splitting the house in half completely randomly the house is now in half an inch one group is going to win safety this week or you have to stay in a room with these people are you know twenty four hours or something something to really really physically split people apart and make make them not able to work together well i actually have a really good idea for how to make people you know change of allegiance is and sort of get closer to other people really a split people up it's so what happens is if one person ended up winning the power denominate to people in the house then that will cause a lot of a lot of people to you know how gravitate toward that one person and so if that one person and in the majority lines then things will often shift right so a what will happen is the whole house will be very very shifty one one single alliance can dominate because any one person in power it's i personally think this is a genius idea i'm not sure what the producer big brother might think about it though oh see it in there no twist is the best twist or just links big win won't work it was your original original idea for the twists guys like it was the twist on survivor that made big brother what it is m o l all right so i jack jack jack can't do it he can't do any anything fancy here you know maybe he will but he's heavily incentivize not to m is so they are they say we gotta we gotta stick the grateful that's what we gotta do until this whole thing is over we gotta stick to the group 'em jack is of course as i mentioned you're gonna call house meeting a this is that the best of christie who kind of a inspired him a sort of a told him that they should do this because they had the idea that what do we tell people that they shouldn't talk game without a win these cats knees camp comebacker 'em you know the they shouldn't be talking nobody should be talking game when they're out there out of the game we don't wanna put a target on there but it's really them for them we wanna try and don't protect their back yeah well what's interesting about this is that idea seems to stem from crispy and it's actually brought up pretty immediately in a room where he also he also is end so it's his first presented like we're gonna presented were gonna say that no one can talk but it's really more you know against david bennett is against you eat became pretty much everyone is specially jack and jack cena feel like oh we did great job this whole week of convincing ob that were with him and we were campaigning for him and he's definitely gonna be without and so as of now great for him to come back because he stone are back pocket yes so the house meeting is called they all they all come together and a in jack day he he let's see what's the whole house i think we would not they're using the dire emphasize meaning 'em but a bunch of the first half he shows up nearly okay do you said you wrote down jack speech before us i can't i can't do voice but let's here's what we got i really wanna figured like i haven't checked i came up with the jason momoa yeah he starts off in the paint a picture here everyone sitting down and jack's doing the thing where he got like one leg up on the fan and then sort of standing up is paying south over everyone just really presenting casually out yeah oh i'm not i'm not dictating that but i'm gonna put my self in a position where nobody talked me she read our opposes by that author i'm real yes yeah so so he starts off to be honest i don't even need talked about this many people i really value their opinion in this game in this household that i've spoken west and they agree with me that this camp comebacks thing it's different than we expected it happened but again we we totally did expect it happened at least i did i think between the four week period we'd love to have you guys here any speaking just directly at data by the way throughout this like not even looking around like we'd love to have you guys here i mean david were so happy to have you back in that you've made it back and then david like can i mean more than three hours is awesome and i felt bad from their everyone laughed that being said i'm one to truly believe in a common agreeance or or ignorance is bliss type of thing if we all agreed of the fact to try and avoid talking about game with the people who've been kicked out on the house really really going gentle here i know that you're in a position to end it does benefit you guys coming back in the game it benefits you cannot make it seem like you have any is built up for that you push yourself automatically come in with something on your back some kind of strategy you have a fresh fresh clean slate this way for any of the four guys you've made it another four weeks living in a crazy situation and it doesn't put us in a situation where you know were not trained a tough game with any of the campers out there it's just a suggestion but it's kind of a strategy that we wish wish we could express and the campers you know not joining in on the house that way well i gotta say you know i love the idea of presenting this to one person we're not even marriage amos speech but he's thinking about all for people to which are sitting at this table like i mean those those four arbitrarily people who were not not anyone here but you know those other people like i am surprised no one brings up oh but so the people who are like in arlington's now they're gonna be able to make strategy in game have alliances and then they'll be kicked out are they are they not allowed to mark how strong feeling it's going to be a different tune when you know if jackson gets kicked out of jack foul gonna get kicked out though with mary obviously it's it's these out cats that are gonna be evicted in the next two weeks the way they they know what's up the never never in a million years could they end up being the one kicked out that's not what happens to majority alliance people though that beach was it it took my breath away i i am fully fully convinced i don't think we should talk to a movie or david anymore it helps everyone to remain unbiased because no one would have any ties to the four people expect you would because two of those where people are still in the game so i might be the only one who sees this loophole that will get to it yeah you you you know you it's basically you know how they're sixteen of a pretty small house and were here for ninety nine days in we we have literally one thing to do which is play a game let's not talk to a certain amount of these people about the game what else do you talk to them about what do you mean don't talk game with them like excellent question is so wait so like how much time of day do you guys talk game am i supposed to get everyone's like we haven't talked christie is is also interjecting today mostly jackson christie talking a little bit of holly kind of just sort of guessing agreeing with everything but cribbing jumps in a lot and says you know it's just because so coon by were also closed and i think were close because we don't gain very much we just we just fine and were just open unhappy and so you can join in on that stuff like i mean you don't you don't have to abide by that you could go do year old thing like we're all we all know you're gonna come across game talk eventually and i don't wanna think they can't be a part of it but like maybe don't instill it or routing in any way it's just a suggestion none of demand and yes i really apologize for my complete lack of impersonation i'm sorry i'm not taryn iran i it's it's literally it's literally like i okay okay here's here's the thing mary i just feel like it's best for us that we never talk about the planet earth or anything that exists on the planet earth we should only talk about things they don't have anything to do with the planet it or anything on it well i'm glad you said that because i have a whole whole list of things in my notes i segment out the things that game talk and are not being so i got about three things on here we could talk about for the rest of the podcast ground game talk it's right yeah there's a great moment at the end of this house meaning actually where where sam says so did you come here and have to take the pictures by the pool 'cause you morning those pictures that were not allowed to talk about production and immediate cut to fish with great is really wonderful oh i bet i wonder if david supervised his photo shopping yeah is it was really funny i love that 'em they had good times a let's see well you know there's really not a lot have left it's not we are only allowed to talk about things a warrant game related on this update so a we kind of i think we could skip to the end of my notes here 'em you know nick and bella got into a little spat that oh yeah yeah from a cat made a funny joke in debatable a dude more more tension in love triangle between a holly cut and jackson oh i love that a lot of lot of complaining from jackson about cat david made a joke the judge avenue notes were not a good into game related shoot shoot well the good thing about all of this is that a cliff this is the savior we need an attorney you just immediately leave this meeting goes talks over you know he's like wait were not allowed to talk game ankle such talking to you well i'll tell you in i'll keep you up to date with everything don't worry about it don't even worry about it through the rubble rubric yeah i don't know about this house meeting really showed me which people i can count on to bring me happiness in this game enda it's the ones who continue i came to me and even david to some extent so yeah if anyone's wondering who the underdogs are we found on the arena we at least they're aware enough to continue talking game some kevin perfect all right a so yes oh we talked a whiz cliff cliff said that he feels like the next three likely targets are a kenny cat ingest news mostly i just i pretty pretty windsor brought up yeah i mean i think i don't know if he knows quite yet that nick is also in the table but might not be probably won't actually be acted on until after camp comeback is over i'll also i think cat i think it's really gonna try hard to make the next to becoming ingest then they'll get rid of cat because then they won't have to deal with her in the house and a then of course also if they have the opportunity they might try to take a shot at nick and nick will i think tried to take the shot at jack but i think nick who would have taken a shot at jack this week also will be a hindered by camp comeback and also will wait until it's over take his shot so it's very likely gonna be some order of comey cat ingest the next three convictions yes oh that would be exception of the fact that these people voted out are still in the house can blow up you're game which actually the huge exception so that's why a lot of these more imposing character is probably won't be voted out soon there's still a lot of talk about how these people make it back in the game or who will and there's there's a lot of talk about a big brother sixteen in the type of battle back there and so it's really something that i don't i don't think you can just count on someone like jacket and go out and immediately getting back in necessarily it's just more of how much damage kenny do in the weaker to wellness case only a week maybe not even a whole week if he gets voted out fourth which is the only option so oh well at least also recognize is that not just when this a ridiculous statement in the house meeting but it's just a really brutal way to welcome someone back into the game they welcome back we're not gonna talk to you though yeah i it's it's ridiculous if we have been made that where yes yes he's working pretty hard with ob to kind of hinted like i want you back in the game but also do some good work with david kinda like engaged david comes back instead of you i'd like him on my side as well yes now we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors and we'll be right back end or back so let's get back to the show so over he's also gonna talk nicole nicole fills over in that that she feels like some people were blowing smoke a little bit there wiz ob a including jack and tommy yeah that that they philly these people were not really on your side she's right about jack kind of wrong about tommy 'em end over we will talk to the cameras thing he feels betrayed by jack still not sure about the atomic situation it well you know it's interesting that you say that because while i do think that tommy would have rather have ob stay in the game i dunno this whole day of feeds made me feel less confident in tommy just in that i think a lot of people around him more than should be at this stage in the game for him and even even if nicole's not right here the fact that she suspect that he could be someone that oh we can't trust is not good for him in so he's done something just watching some of the ways he's the he was communicating especially with ob he doesn't come across nearly a genuine as people like nicole and clifton and i think that's because he knows he's got all of this information secrets in his head that he's been lying about any sort of aware that he could get caught whereas nicole and cliff were a little bit more upfront wastes ob before he left about it may not look good for you right i i will i will say i i i'm not on that same page personally i think that i knew we go through this every season we did with tyler people said the exact same thing about tyler week to week three because people were talking about tyler and they're like oh they didn't the jig is up people know about tyler now m n we said the same thing with a counter seven up the junior up people know about anthony an endangered now m end a i feel like because we look at somebody as the front runner doesn't exactly what i said a year ago that means that we are a lot more critical of the tiny things that come up about them i'm definitely not ready to say that this means anything negative for tommy anyway in to be clear i do wanna preface this by saying that it's it's because i'm expected so much of him that i'm going to notice anything that could be a detriment whereas with someone like cliff who i think went in and people expected oh he's older guy maybe you won't do as well and the people in that older underdog condition tend to just kind of hanging on for dear life whereas close seems to be making a lot more actively positive mood so my bias is going to say oh he's doing amazing compared to the level i sent him whereas with tommy it's the smaller things like i think his overall game play fine i don't think he's really in a lot of danger but when i noticed little things like for example at one point he's in a conversation west christie where christie is initially explaining be idea before the house meeting about the new rule that they're not going to talk game with the campers and then he goes into another room like thirty minutes later were christie's explaining this again to some different people and he comes in and act like he hasn't already heard an christie sort of said like oh yeah you remember that thing that i already just told you about and you could see in time you guys he's like no i'm trying to pretend like i didn't already here this and it's little things like that that can he can get caught up in if he continues to try and like you and just be honest income in its number already heard that but he's he's just there certain things he's trying to hide information that he already has an end a while that is not hurting him yet i do think you know nicole and cliff said multiple times and then maybe it'll be can't trust him end or hinted at it at least in from i know that's just because they don't want him to trust and they wanna put eight split there and there's actually no reason why we can't so it's not really tommy's fault but that that's the only thing that i could see if if cliff and nicole continue with that sort of mindset by the end of the evening we did see more down on tommy then you watch i think yes a and so i guess like my my response to that would be that the reason that level of scrutiny is on tommy is because he is still the person in the majority that they want to work with the most end so if in fact the reason tommy has those relationships are if he needs them right i mean these people in even cliff even nicole unfortunately ob is already been voted out a these people are there as backup for tommy if he needs he needs numbers to make a move an if he needs numbers to make a move this is not a not a level of like i don't trust tommy tommy went to them and said i need you guys helped me take out jack takeout whoever they're still gonna work with them because they feel like him the most an a and he will be spilling whatever it is that he's feeling to them i if he doesn't need them then this is completely you know it doesn't go anywhere 'em and so i honestly i feel even better about this sort of a little negative scrutiny about tommy then i did about some of the stuff about tyler last season where i did feel like tyler was a little over extended a time in early weeks of the season tony i i really don't see that with tommy here i know that again every time the front runner has their name mentioned people like the third done i i have to continue to be that person that says i really don't think so a year when this happens people definitely knew that derek was playing well it wasn't like he is asking people send me exact same thing about derek a i remember nicole nicole talking about this week three a when they were both koichi wages nicole went ahead and she's like i think he's playing the whole house he's super manipulative people were like oh they know they know about derek and then of course a nickel goes on to be nicole during that season at least so self justification before everyone screamed at me and says oh i'm being harder on certain people's and others yes yes i am because those were the people i thought stock in so i'm trying to figure out my stock watch game and everything on top of that i have a lot of aka yeah we don't talk about it a lot of people that i like but like for example holly who also bought stock in because i thought she was positioned well i saw because of that i was noticing more negative things she is doing game wise because i'm looking at her as opposed to everyone with the same way so it depends you know you you you know the jack is going to make mistakes so you follow him or yeah i mean that's absolutely what it is i mean i mean even just looking at this particular situation people like oh look how well over we are looking at well nicole and clifford doing with over but it's like over a victim has cast she's got a one in four chance of coming back and they're still only out from the major like like i love them both don't get me wrong i want them to do well i do i but but tommy still like far and away considerably better position and then both of them end in that might change nicole and i will talk about that a little bit 'cause jackson jackson a they do like nicole and they don't like cats a and i i really do feel like macaws potential in a in a mere for a manny hold it takes ever is that nicole has majorly surprise me and i'm very very happy with back from her from her day one person out i think i'm seeing so much martin heard that i really like yes the end i again like cliff were talking just this morning a about how and i've said this before like cliff has always been like yeah tommy is somebody that can be really good at this game and potentially really dangerous down the line a an i i compare them be other day to to derrick in in a in donnie 'em that a you know the the cliff is essentially the guy who knows the game really well in sort of sees that tommy is probably one of the front runners just can't really do anything about it right now and also doesn't really have an incentive to do anything about it right now but but again like this is this is how it works nobody nobody in the history of the game ever goes in and nobody ever sees them as a threat when they're the front runner people see the front runner the differ