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Broken Record
"jackson browne" Discussed on Broken Record
"Session at 6 in the morning or something in like has Stein so we want to and it was like a tallest amount it was like a fry's possession of his. Also picture of him playing with Django Reinhardt. He was a really good musician. And he wasn't in Reinhardt's band. He actually booked right in the heart for this parties and he would get to sit in. Wow. So I grew up with that sort of lure, but when folk music happened, it was taking on all this information about the world about our history and about who really is here, you know? So even though I lived in this really sterile little fact home in Orange County with my family I mean, the conduit and the lifeline to the world outside was music. A lot of musicians I've talked to. Their fathers were jazz musicians. And often they didn't like their kids musical choices. My father, I remember my father coming to see one of my gigs. I vaguely understood that there wasn't a lot about my singing or even my songs were not sophisticated. You know, it wasn't like he was not going to get across the Jordan and come off into the future with us. You know, he was like, even in jazz, you know, he told me like he said like, yeah, Miles Davis. Wow. You know, I thought really? I don't know. I said, okay, well, you definitely telling me where you're at, but we diverse on so many things. He said, you and your friend think you're nonconformist. We didn't really. And then we used that word. There was an issue. He said, but you're going to have to cut your hair and you're going to have to you're going to want to raise a family and then you're going to have to get a job and cut your hair and I thought, I don't think so..
Broken Record
"jackson browne" Discussed on Broken Record
"And Jackson Brown. You were associated with Los Angeles in a way that few people are associated with places. You know, maybe Kurt Cobain and Seattle or Willie Nelson and Austin, but you are this Los Angeles character. So I'm interested in that early part of your career when you left when you went to New York to work. Can you tell me a bit about that? Because it was Dylan, who inspired you to a certain extent and what was it like for you very young, a kid to leave LA go to New York? I grew up in LA till I was about 13, but then at the time that I went to New York, I'd been living in Orange County. My family had moved out to Fullerton. I kicked myself that I didn't go somehow get a job at the fender factory and have like a stash of stratocasters to show for it. But I was really, yeah, I was really immersed in folk music and Dylan and continued to be immersed in roots music and folk music after Dylan sort of. See, there's a thing about folk music is that you learn a song and you make it your own. You either combine maybe you've combined Dave van rong's version of stagger Lee with Mississippi John hertz version of staggering. You take the best of those first. And you put them together and put it in your own. In fact, I wrote a verse a version of staggering in which I'm combined those versions. And I'm quoting Bobby seale, you know, from the black Panthers, you know? Like, Bobby seale said stagger Lee was the brother off the block, whose actions had to speak for him because he couldn't relate to talk. Listen, are you millionaires or something you should know? He gets his shit together. Some of you are going to have to go. Is that a political song? The fact is that David Geffen heard that he went. Women, what's wrong with millionaires? What's wrong with wanting to be a millionaire? And it didn't make my album to make the first album. Just so you know, like, what I was referring to is that the fact that you made these folk songs speak for you and it wasn't just like summoning up an arcane song and rendering it faithfully from, you know, it made it started with that. My only shown by that is incredible songs that she curated on her albums, you know, but she did something to them. She casts a spell on them that was brand new. And traditional and ancient at the same time. So that's what started happening and Dylan Dylan did it, you know? And they did it so well that you sort of led the whole procession off into like a brand new direction and I was living in Orange County by the time that started happening and when I got involved in folk music, before that I listened to my father's music, dixieland. So some of the great singers elephants Gerald and man in fact, we saw Dylan on the television when time it was before I ever saw him. And it was like a very short show and it was Dylan sitting on the edge of a stage somewhere as many as one of the first appearances in TV and he was I said, wow, what is this? You know, my dance is and he wasn't into folk music, but he said, this is the real thing. This is the real thing. He said, I knew guys in the army that sounded like this. He was stationed in Mississippi for a wise..
Broken Record
"jackson browne" Discussed on Broken Record
"Well, that's the time that Greg Lee's played this incredible like, dang it. Didn't get that deck out. This really great guitar. You figured it out. All these sound checks were something happened and I go, oh, yeah. And then there was the time where I cut the song and I say look I'm screwing this up. Let me just try to play my guitar part. Jeff, you sing it. And he's saying my so my keyboard is the guy that is singing this line down here from the water where he's swinging it in a certain way. He just hears things that way. He goes like a gun. So he's swinging the track that way with his la la laws, whatever he sees sing to leave the band, whereas the melody really goes, that at that time, all that got the data. And it's against the beat, which provides a kind of tension. And you can get away with it. But it's not as I tried to convert all the phrasing to his phrasing and that really didn't work. Throwing off the words again and then coming back to my I got to go back then I just realized that I can have him answer it. I can have him reaffirm that rhythm with his Vogue. Downhill from the fat from the babies room downhill from the, you know, so I gave my road a bunch of lines for him to sing, too. No. And downhill, I thought his cool is like getting my getting my singers to sing downhill from the Anthropocene. I was going to have one of them say, look it up. Downhill. It's fun, because I'm writing for a band. I called in writing that song I really called a guitar part from Greg and a vocal phrasing from Jeff. I mean, a moment where Fritz was kind of channeling the stones and trying to play those things. Just make the song about music first, you know. Do most songs for you start with lyrical ideas. It's usually some piece of lyric and music at the same time. I feel or a little bit of music at the same time. But it's usually a phrase, yeah. But you're still a slow writer, aren't you? You notice. Yeah. What's the fastest you've ever written a song? One of the fast songs was on this album, a little soon to say, came up pretty quickly. What's a little quickly for you? That I had this idea in a month later I really started to write it and then in a matter of about a week or so, I had kind of, you know, wow. Yeah, stuff happens. I got a phone call in the middle of writing this verse and I got a phone from a friend of mine who's who I work with like my production guy. I mean, every toll in this stupid. That conversation with him, I just led me into this whole reassessment of my whole, you know, like I didn't find much wisdom when I was my time was on my side. That old verse came from like a feeling I had from a conversation on the phone while writing the song. It's not like I set out to say something is just a process of uncovering things that in you know, within you, we'll be right back with more from Jackson Brown after this break..
Broken Record
"jackson browne" Discussed on Broken Record
"Personal songs, people relate to them because they're sort of commonality of emotions that people have and the dilemmas they face in life, when you're approaching a more political song, do you say I want to write something about immigration because it's wrong. I mean, how do you get from there? How do you get from this sort of high level New York Times headline to the emotional heart of a song like that? Yeah, that's a good question because the thing that I've tried to do in the past sometimes to try to approach a subject strategically and try to draw people into the subject and taught her what matters to each of us. And here's the problem with anything political is if you're too oblique, they won't know what you're talking about. And if you're too direct, you run the risk of making people feel that they're being sort of scolded or lectured. I don't say I told myself, look, I want this to sound like the way it would sound like if you and I were drinking in a bar and we're just talking about what's going on in the world. Not that as if some sort of elevated place and lecturing people about something that should know about but don't and they should care. You have to make people you have to get to people where they do care and what they do know about. In the case of downhill from everywhere, it's not exactly political because there's no polemic. It's just like a bunch of compounding and sort of contrasting images. You know, the prison, the mall factory farming the hospital, and the fun of it was to make it flow out of it so that these seem like extreme consciousness. And sometimes it was, but you have to make those words sound good with rock and roll. And what I really wanted was a song that you didn't have to listen to the words suit at all..
Broken Record
"jackson browne" Discussed on Broken Record
"Hello podcast fans, Malcolm gladwell here. I'm the host of revisionist history and cofounder of pushkin industries. Hoskin is home to revisionist history and other great shows, like the happiness lab against the rules, cautionary tales, broken record, and a slight change of plans. Join, pushkin plus, angel here, all our shows, ad free, and get access to exclusive bonus content. Push can plus is just 4.99 a month, which is nothing or 39.99 a year. Subscribe now in pushkin podcasts or at pushkin FM. In the 1970s, Jackson Brown was known as one of the originators of the carefree California classic rock sound. With kids like doctor my eyes and running on empty. But we were. Looking back at the years gone by like so many something as his career progressed, Jackson brown's knack for writing soul searching lyrics turned more political. He began to write protest songs that addressed weighty issues, like environmental degradation, and U.S. foreign policy. Brown continues to use his music as a vehicle for change today. His latest album, downhill from everywhere, was inspired by a documentary about the Pacific garbage patch, and our impact on the planet. On.
Rock N Roll Archaeology
"jackson browne" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
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Rock N Roll Archaeology
"jackson browne" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Oh i knows it's moved around some but that's like what i would consider to be sort of a maybe like third fourth most notable song on late for the sky for most people but like like the bracket things funny because they went way farther than i thought it beat songs that i thought that i didn't think it would so so maybe that's not the case but that's on was in. He did a documentary called going home in the early ninety s when he put out. Now i'm alive and it's a combination of a live show. I think it's on like i think it was like a disney documentary. So this is on this. I think it might be on disney plus or some some streaming app but really a documentary. And they they Kinda like early within the first fifteen minutes there sort of like a taking you from the president back into the past of moment and they hit you with a version of they play farther on. And then you kind of get this montage with a lot of like black and white polaroid pictures moving and scenes from that time. And like you know i i know i think it had an effect on me like you know the way the montage stink candidate feels a little cheap but it like helped me find the beauty in this song that is is really did and but i think that can change because it has changed different favorite songs some of which i'll talk about right now but farther on which is late for the sky took up while i'm.
World Cafe
"jackson browne" Discussed on World Cafe
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World Cafe
"jackson browne" Discussed on World Cafe
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World Cafe
"jackson browne" Discussed on World Cafe
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World Cafe
"jackson browne" Discussed on World Cafe
"I put in. I put in a bridge from some other thing. That i also couldn't trying to fit you on inter's on together believed in it for a while and now i just said you know doesn't really lead me anywhere. I had taken back apart that somebody showed me recently. I was talking with this interview Mark myers i think his name is the wall street journal. Saying a any dentist was looking at doctor. My eyes and he's whole article about one song. Any found some recording somewhere of the bets song with a bridge in it. And it's really not you know. Obviously do it didn't need a bridge and one of the first things i want to record. The song was through the bridge out d. Do you save those verges. That you don't use do they go. You can still remember them. A might have something in them. Yeah i've done it before. I put i put together a you know it's like i actually think it's like building an instrument building. A song is like building a czar. You've got back. You've got the back and sides but you're looking for a good piece of wood for the top you know when you're looking for you need a bridge the there's also some some some instruments really make you play a certain way and so i mean there's the song that i was in this room in the years ago but i was trying to describe a song that i've written a long time ago and had never finished it was an interview and there wasn't guitar handy and they get tired guitar handy. I said well here. It goes like this. And i went to the piano and suddenly i was sings. Great so into sorta song just came alive right. After i finished the song began singing. And that was a song. That i you know started. When i was eighteen there was in my forties trying to have a period of time. And what handwritten you know what it needed besides being played on the piano and needed punctuation. So what do you mean by that when a song me the has punctuation song song was birds. The same marks and it was. The line was like. Oh how sad. I think i was getting. Oh how sadly. Sound the queen missing of diane. That's terrible it's wrong but are what and finally realized that you could use a comma and solicit. Oh how sad they sound. Come the songs the queen missing dying. It's all about with sounds good when you sing. It really is one time. I heard somebody asked bob dylan how. He came up with his lyrics and he says oh. I just try to think of stuff. That sounds good. And i thought was a glib and incredibly sarcastic answer. You know like like like like did all the time but come to realize that. That's exactly what you're doing. You're trick sounds good right. Well i wait before we go. I do want to ask you more about the lyrics on this album. Especially but i think we gotta hear the birds of saint mark's jackson browne ooh keen sooner poem calms if she could see three. Those an screed the ground. It's world cafe. I'm reiniger as my guest. Today is jackson browne. His new album is called downhill from everywhere and that phrase downhill from everywhere is a reference to the ocean. I looked it up. And i am familiar with what it's about but could you. Could you tell us where that phrase comes from. Yeah that that phrase comes from a oceanographer for a marine researcher named captain. Charles moore got a foundation to call the al delete foundation in his both the alga leader. He was motoring back across the pacific from hawaii and he noticed that he was. Just you know in in income Huge amount of plastic. So you know. It's hard what he's said since he since he brought it to the world's attention you know the oceans downhill from everywhere in everything that we do ones up in the ocean in landfills and in the ocean. But you know. The ocean is responsible for half of the oxygen. We breathe where we know about. The rainforest belongs the earth and so on but also the ocean. The marine life in the ocean produces one half. I mean every other breath so in the middle of that song is the question. Do you think this belongs to something you need. Going forward is something you'd be willing to fight for. All those things are supposed to come to mind with the question of do you think of the ocean is yours I think we should let people hear downhill from everywhere. Here is the title track. It's downhill from everywhere jackson. Browne from the tv took.
Here's The Thing
"jackson browne" Discussed on Here's The Thing
"Meet some of his heroes from the beginning. I met people that. I really had a huge admiration for like david crosby sang on my first album. Mean he's sort of it's almost like being knighted or something you know he. He gave me the accolade of being a singing army down four or five songs. And i really learned so much of how to work how to get what i get in the studio from him then. There was a concert. I did one time. Where crosby stills. Nash were there. But neil wasn't there and i. I was on stage at this picture of crosby. Nash brown is like like i thought well. That's wow you know. And it was a long time ago but gotta say the people that i admire the most people. I'm still very shy about and don't even know how to overcome that. My admiration enough to be really good friends with. I mean i can't quite get over it. You know what they mean to me. And what the music meant to me. Springsteen inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame is he a friend of yours someone you whitmire. Yeah oh yeah. Yeah and he and we met at a gig that we're both doing at villanova. And he actually. He was opening. And i'd never seen him. I'd met him. We knew each other because he came into the guest set. When i was playing acoustically at this club called the main point in philadelphia and so we knew each other and i knew his music and some that i was doing this gig with bruce and that he was that i would he said. You're what you're gonna follow bruce. I don't know. I don't think you should do that. And it really bothered me pissing. Me off is what do you mean like but then i saw this show and it was really i mean i saw what he was doing and it was just astounding his thing unto himself and he amplified so much of what he saw in rock and roll to a degree to almost make into another art form. But i gotta say. I feel quite apart from all of that. I mean i try to learn from everything that i that i love. Try to take it in and learn part of it or some. How how it applies to what i wanna do. But i feel like what i do is quite different. I mean i'm always put together with the eagles. But when i think about it we really wrote about very different things and for that matter like take it easy as a very you know. It's a song that i wrote with glenn fry and so i'm linked in that way forever and i'm very happy about it but it wouldn't have been that song if glenn fry had not done what he did. He wrote about what he writes about. I write about what i write about. And sending on the corner and winslow zona icy an indian guy. I see it at tall indian guy with a white cowboy hat. You know turquoise shirt standing on a corner. And i probably would have written about him of course glenn instead he wrote about this girl my lord in the flatbed ford. Yeah slowing down to look at me. Take a look at me. That's pure glenn fry. That's like i've always said the musicians. Have this beautiful reality. Music is so much more powerful than film and television because you can consume it anywhere in the shower while you're having sex while you're jogging while in the car. Music is in our lives in a way the you don't have to make that kind of appointment. Visually with movies and tv. And how beautiful for you. You can just sit down and write and you sit down and play and it's all self generated you comes from you in the film business. It's so collaborative. But who's one example or more of someone you always dreamed of working with and you wish you'd been able to work with within that you just love their music for many generation now gone. There are so many singing with phoebe. Bridges was a big deal for me. Because i love somebody i mean. Maybe i'd like to do something with cindy williams. She's one of my favorites. And i don't know how she does but she does is just so mysterious to me that i can't figure out how i bring that to bring that about. I guess you'd have to write a song together or something so being invited in almost the necessary component from me. So who do. I want to call me up. Invite to sing sing with them. Were right a with the senate would be great a i. You know. I love women. Writers songwriters i sean colon. But i don't think of it like that. I got to play with some wonderful musicians. As last weekend. We did a livestream. th- event for organization called plastic pollution coalition. And the the lineup. Was everybody's saying one song by themselves than once on somebody else but it was. ben harper. Kept mo- mandy. Moore taylor goldsmith and inara george. Who's my goddaughter. But it's also who is like the singer in the great group the bird and the bee and she's been in a bunch of bands as an artisan right but Also a group called the watkins family. Our which are sarah and sean watkins. Who i've played with before. So i can't name them but i just show you. I mean when stuff happens it happens by accident. It's almost got to be an accident like i told you. I can't call people and say i want to write a song with you. Matter of fact some of those people have invited me to write us with them. And i don't even. I don't even know that. I can accept that offer. You know like. I get that phone call. I wanna see you your house and someone you love it in mind because you know something man. It just time has come. The time has come for you. And i gotta do this man. We got this song. We talked about it in london. We talked about it in rio. I so he can at the airport in miami and we talked about it and now the time has come. I do that song and you're like yeah. I'm going to call you back. I'll call you back tomorrow. I've tremendous performance anxiety. You still do. Look carol king and asked me to. Let's get together right a and she came over my house and we spent made a tape of the thing you know and we we started hit on an idea there and that was like thirty years ago. I'm still working on that song. I always tell them look. I'm the slowest writer. You ever. you know we're going to say that. Thank you for listening by interview. With jackson browne. The slowest slowest writer in rock and roll history. Is there a song. Your are so emotional. Some of them. They're very powerful emotionally. And is there a song or when you play it it still moves you. Well honestly sound like bragging but they that's what they do to me. Not every song. Is that kinda song. i mean. There are a number of songs that do that to me. And that's what. I learned going out solo acoustic was. That's the only business. I have been there. Is that those songs. Still move me in. It's real because you pretty much naked when you're up there with just by yourself but i would say that there was a song on my recent record that i was framing trouble finishing. I kept crying as i was trying to. I mean i was collaborating with a guy on the song called. Love is love is a song that i wrote in haiti and we were talking about this guy who was priest. It's built schools and hospitals in haiti rides around on a motorcycle. And he he's in this song and said i say rick rights and motorbike through the worst slums the city. And i and my friend. I said well. How would you say about father. Ricky says well the father and the doctor to the poorest.
Here's The Thing
"jackson browne" Discussed on Here's The Thing
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Here & Now
"jackson browne" Discussed on Here & Now
"In march. He called the virus a hoax this monday. He told us viewers take the virus. Seriously he said this. And it absolutely makes sense. For many americans to get back stated i believe in science i believe in the signs vaccination but then last night he play that down. They never told anyone to get a vaccine. I've been very clear. I am simply not qualified. I am not a medical doctor. Nothing about your medical history or your current medical condition. David it strikes us. You know sean. Hannity still has enormous influence. But it's being dwarfed by tucker carlson. So what do you make i mean. Is there some internal fighting over. What the messages are what viewers are telling these hosts. They want the message to be well. I think you've hit on something very important. Just as with the question of whether or not joe biden's win in november was legitimate and it was A lot of core fox viewers and a lot of core trump supporters. Who are often the same folks. don't want to hear this from the biden administration don't want to have these limitations on and don't trust what what public health officials often even in their state and local Jurisdictions are telling them and so in some ways fox's been following their audience on that for tucker carlson who has spent so much time trying to take down former president trump's critics you know it is seemingly reflexive reaction to take down those who are pushing a harder line on this than the former president. Did you know sean. Hannity has seemingly straddled both sides on this. But he hasn't been the worst of the bunch. I gotta say tucker carlson ingram as you've suggested have really gone out of their way to play up every possible instance that could cast a concern about a vaccine when you're talking about hundreds of millions of people being vaccinated across the world. You know a you're going to have a certain number of instances crop up and be The proof that there hasn't been widespread problems with these ones. The reasoning america suggests. They actually are quite safe now. Well this is also happening within this organization which had been seen as a mouthpiece for instance for the trump administration certainly leans right as the viruses ripping through red states now some gop lawmakers also changing their tune representative steve scalise. The house to republican posted a picture of himself getting a dose this week months after he was eligible for one getting one. So how is that affecting this this political calculus since the delta variant is hitting red states harder. Do you think there could be a broader shift across the board and how both lawmakers and talk show hosts talk about this. I think you're seeing it's it's it's almost like three steps forward three steps back in some ways you are seeing some conservative. A government officials governors lawmakers saying. Look this is an incredibly important thing. We have to get level of vaccinations up And then you're seeing this mealy mouth stuff from hannity he's basically saying i'm not against the vaccines. I agree with them. Generally talk to your doctor but it's really stopped short from urging you know the recent public health works is because there is. I gotta say a message based on the best facts that we have in front of us that this is a necessary thing to do in fox right now is both doing that. Through the public service announcements we heard at the top of this segment and not in terms of what they're showing with a lot of their top rated host. Npr media correspondent. david folkenflik. thank you you bet. El keep following the messaging. Meanwhile here now is a production of npr. Wb you're i'm robin young. I'm celeste headley. it's here now..
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"jackson browne" Discussed on Here & Now
"An automatic withdrawal programs setup with through your bank so if you reach out to them they will walk through everything you need to do to qualify for these been many short term extensions this administration has implemented you know to try to prevent foreclosures and evictions. How did these plans. Compare what you put it out fairly mainframe mac. They are sort of the big heavyweights in the mortgage. industry is far as government backing for loans. So one of the goals of this program announced today was to bring the loans that are backed by hud and the va. And the usda into sort of the same scenario that the fannie and freddie loans are in so it's a sort of a way to stop gap and make sure that everyone with federally backed loan is able to get the support they need so this is an on kind of d. Do you think it's enough. I think it's hard. It's hard to ever look at something like this and say if it's a cure all or a panacea but i do think it takes a big step to making sure that all those gaps are filled in that no one gets left behind who needs the aid. They're still struggling from the ramifications of the virus and as we know Joe biden was vice president during the two thousand eight and nine financial crisis the frightening housing collapse. Do you think that is influencing his policies. You know. I wouldn't want to put words mouth but like you said. He played a huge role in the government response to the financial crisis. That crisis really highlighted was how important. The mortgage industry is to the entire. Us economy. So i think yeah. I would guess that he is taking a lot of those lessons. Learned back then applying them to this situation here because the threat to the mortgage industry and effects to the rest of the economy and just to people's lives if they get their house foreclosed on is just as bad as it was then in senior editor bloomberg news. Thank you stacey. Abrams likes to fix problems. It's why she founded fair fight to combat voter suppression in georgia after she lost the governor's race in two thousand eighteen and her organization ultimately played a big role in flipping that state to democrats in the twenty twenty election now. Republicans across the country are proposing legislation. That would make it even harder for people to vote. But abrams is not done fighting. She told podcast host. Arthur shahani that efforts to protect the ballot. Never really stop. You have to keep fighting. There is a naievety that says oh. We've gotten this done. And therefore we can march forward in victory now. Victories incredibly temporary loss is temporary and so the third lesson is to recognize that. What i did in eighteen led me to understand what needs to be done in twenty and what we got in twenty create a whole new set of issues for twenty. And so you can't ever believe that what you've done is enough to defeat those who oppose you. Shahani recently spoke with abrahams on her podcast art of power which explores how people view the role of power in the world and are they shahani joins us. Now we'll come back. Thank you to be here. One of the things that struck me immediately in your conversation was in a discussion of perfectionism. Because frankly who does more things than stacey abrams. She a renaissance woman. She's a tv producer. She writes romance novels. Inner spare time leadership books. She runs organizations. Exactly right yeah. So she does not see herself as an overachiever. What did she say. It's just so interesting. i've actually clarify. She may see herself as an overachiever but not a perfectionist and it might actually be a not being one enables her to be the other appoint she made in our interview is she aims for a. minus b. plus. She's not trying to get everything perfect because there is actually a cost to doing that. When you're really striving for everything is just right last time. You're not putting the other stuff and so actually part of how you can explain. I mean besides the fact that she's just incredibly intelligence and hard working. You can't take that away but there is a mindset there and it's one that i think that i particularly was affected by because it's like the conversation with her makes me ask are if you weren't so worried about being imperfect. How much more would you let yourself do. And so part of what. Stacey abrams says a she embodies that how full woman you can be. You talked quite a bit about losing right failure specifically when she lost the race for governor in georgia. She lost to brian camp in twenty eighteen and this support that she's talked about quite a bit. I mean in some ways. You would think stacey abrams at at this point has thought about it so much. She's kind of an expert on loss. What did you learn from her. The loss it's not actually as she describes it. It's not due to editing on her own part that what faulty you know. She had this machine. That was diligently working doing that door knocking doing that. Really unglamorous work of organizing. But she just didn't anticipate just how powerful her opposition in the form of then secretary of state brian. Kemp the man running against her and also controlling the machinery of voting. She didn't anticipate how effective he was at in her view. Removing people from the rolls yes. She turned out to one point. Nine million voters showed up for her on election day but he managed to toss out one point. Five million voters from the roles. And how much easier it is. When you're in a position of authority to axe people from the project democracy. How much easier it is to do that. Then to bring people into democracy to convince them to participate. i mean. it's really a tough fight. There's no such thing as a decisive victory. You win some you lose some you get up you keep going if you expect to just win and call it a day. You're going to be disappointed. 'cause history rarely hands you that and her point then about viewing the work of democracy as ongoing. The victories are only temporary. It also means the defeats are only temporary to me. That was very sobering. I mean one thing you you realize you listen to a number of interviews with stacey. Abrams is how honest she is straight. Pay yes really weird for public official to is so forth really is it really is and i wanted to play one of the comments..
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"jackson browne" Discussed on Here & Now
"You are six teen talk about that sense of yourself even then or maybe those are just lyrics. It sounded good together for you but was there something you seem to be born with. That had the sense of urgency. Or time what you just said really is probably more like just fitting words together. The sound good and no. Don't either way you can't sing stuff. That isn't true and for whatever reason i wrote those lines. I was immersed in emotion and self reflective moment in time and maybe discovering for the first time your own fallibility. But i think that people underestimate how intense you know. Young people's emotional life is well. You know i was listening to my eyes. And i smile because you have the lines. It's later than it seems. Just tell me. is it too late for me. And i'm thinking of your twenty three in the new songs we have lyrics like time is slipping away time like a river time like a train. We're here but for a moment. Talk a little bit about. Just your sense of urgency. Now there's the personal there's the personal part about about being you know at old saying that she only have certain amount of time left but there's also the recognition that we even when we're young really only here for a while and then the fact that the world isn't prices the world's crisis ecologically economically politically. You know the world we're leaving to future. generations is really questioned. There's really not really deep questions to be answered right away. Well let's listen to The title song from the album downhill from everywhere inspired by oceanographer. Charles moore. Who said the ocean was downhill from everywhere. It's true Let's listen jackson browne. Environmental causes have long been important to you so our social justice issues. And i'm thinking of this past year reckoning. How do you sing about things like that. After sixty years without saying listen to me. It's question of how to be most authentic. I mean i compare myself with some my hero. Someone like some of the greats. And say i don't have i mean like like kris kristofferson with his incredibly iconic and undeniably american voice consort song with well. They're killing babies in the name of freedom. We've been down this sorry road before. I never think of being that direct. But he can do it. It's a question of how to how to be most authentic. Put this in a way in which people will in with a way in which you will persuade you want. You want to persuade people to see things the way you see them. And so sometimes you strategize too much. And you're kind of oblique sometimes. You're you're to direct and you people feel that they're being lectured being able to describe the world in terms that you recognize to be able to reveal the truth yourself and perhaps reveal something to your listeners. That's the coin of the wrong. You know you mentioned touring with james taylor. How what what is it like to perform with him. He's he's such a master and he said such a long standing part of all of our lives. it's a thrill to get to to share stage with them. I'm one of those people. Was there the hear him to you. Know this is a funny thing. Arnold mcculler is james's harmony singer. And i use this app. He's got a singing app. What is a singing app do. It's called vocal es and it's him leading you in these exercises i can say is that it really works. I wish aware. I always wanted to sing better than i can sing. And that goes for right now. I guess and but anyway that it got sort of moved in a very real way. When i started using this apps the real teacher though the real singing teacher is singing for an audience. That's in your really hearing yourself singing and hearing it with fresh ears. It makes a huge difference. It sounds like what you're saying is live and learn okay. So now there's an app o you have it. You wish you'd had it before i have. I mean they're risk just benefit too year. Spent doing something. I mean there's something to be said for that ease. Well it's funny you said you're talking about the apps and one of my new songs there. No directions you know. There are no app you know. Senate sign up for courses. You can get arnold app. For instance you know but i mean in andrews really is your own desire to get somewhere to answer the questions and it's really that the questions that yours as we said that's where we started jackson browne. The new album is downhill from everywhere. Thank you so much the fun. Good asking good question. That's a really good question. Great question is free therapy. Thank you for asking me that god. That's such a good question. That's an interesting question but what fresh air interviews are really about are the interesting answers. Listen and subscribe to fresh air from whyy and npr. Today the biden administration announced plans to help homeowners avoid foreclosure just as another federal housing program set to expire. That's the cdc's moratorium on. It ends august. I but this new aid could help. Some people with federally backed mortgages reduce their monthly payments for more. We're joined by mike regan senior editor for bloomberg news. Mike people i know many are on the edge of their seats here. So what exactly is this biden administration offering borrowers like you said robin it applies to mortgages. That are backed by the federal government and the government plays a huge role in sort of insuring mortgages so that people can't keep the payments up the government comes in and pays the payments for them. So what does program alleged that is able to do is offer a variety of ways for people with certain government-backed loans to reduce their monthly payments by.
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"jackson browne" Discussed on Here & Now
"I'm celeste hedley this is here and now it's back to the drawing board for house speaker. Nancy pelosi she's trying to put together a bipartisan. Select committee to investigate. The january sixth insurrection. Earlier this week pelosi rejected the appointments of two republicans congressman. Jim jordan of ohio and jim banks of indiana. They were both nominated by house. Minority leader kevin mccarthy. Here's pelosi. They have made statements and taking actions of that. I think would impact the integrity of the commission of the committee. The work of the committee mccarthy called the move a quote egregious abuse of power and threatened to pull all five of his nominees from the committee. Low it's friday. So let's add that sunday to our weekly politics roundtable. This week. We have my king politics reporter for political maya. Hi thanks for having me and margaret talev managing editor for politics at axios margaret. Welcome to you as always chyrov grid with you and we just heard speaker. Pelosi that republicans jim jordan and banks. Jim banks have statements and actions that would impact the work of the committee. She's now considering adding outspoken. Republican trump critics including congressman. Adam king's anger margaret. Start with you. What's the talk about this. We also hear people saying maybe she should have kept the firebrand like jim jordan on the committee so people could see what they say is his disregard for january sixth. What's the chess play here. Think pelosi just took a look at kind of the pre-game that Representatives jordan and banks were sharing of seeking to invalidate the premise of the committee or the scope of their work to begin with her to say that the real thing that should be investigated is pelosi or that. Somehow you know. Democrats were responsible for supporters of for president trump stormy the capital in a violent way that lead to death so i think her decision at that point just reflected her view that the hearing the committee would turn into a circus and that she already had one republican on the committee because she had pointed that. Republican that's liz cheney from wyoming and she just pulled the plug on it and said the balls near court. We know what mccarthy didn't accent so Ever since then. The question has been Could she take those five slots that would've been mccarthy's to a point that he's now said no i'm not gonna point anyone and fill those with other republicans fill any from one to five of the Well i guess it's not she removed to this is. I'm getting in the weeds. But yes there are five spots now that she could fill or could she just does not need to do any or could you do something in the middle like for practical purposes. I'm not sure that it matters. She still has a committee. There are still a republican on the committee. Whether republicans think liz cheney counter not and the committee still has subpoena power because the democrats are in control of the house. will it be viewed as partisan by republicans yes would have been viewed as partisan by republicans anyway even if those five republicans that mccarthy pulled had served yes and does plus you have the ability to unearth or put on record Some new facts if the committee is sort of controlled and sticks to substance manages now to go off the rails in some democratic partisan way yes all those things are possible. so at this point that's her calculation and really the only question is how many republicans want to sign on against kevin mccarthy's wishes while my no love lost between Jim jordan endless cheney it would have been interesting to see that on fold but briefly. You want to add anything to what we just heard. Well i think also what we're looking at here is pelosi saying that she really doesn't want to politicize this as much as it has increasingly become a political issue that indeed People died on january sixth and that people particularly voters in two thousand twenty two our old some kind of an explanation for the role that the former president and republicans have played In stoking tensions ahead of it which i think plays into why you're seeing this tension now on the hill it would be very difficult to include people on this commission who actively played a role in the events leading up to january. Sixth let's move onto another big topic of discussion in washington and that's infrastructure. The infrastructure bill faces setback in the senate. There was a failed vote. That could have begun debate on the spending package. Democrats say that's not the end of this And then earlier. This week biden was asked about whether he attempt to end or change the filibuster that could affect whether this infrastructure bill gets a vote or even debate. So my what are we to to think about the future of this infrastructure. Bill will i think they were. Democrats will come away. Having passed something there will be another vote. probably early next week But it seems though that many including those on the left or kind of gritting their teeth and in going ahead to support this bill There's just been a lot of back and forth. Obviously it's been infrastructure week in washington now for like the last three months and so there's also just this feeling. I think among many on the hill that they have to do something and have something to show for all of these conversations that they've been having and i don't think it's also. I think it's worth noting here. The fact that a lot of these discussions are taking place against the backdrop of Crumbling infrastructure in this country. I think just in the last month we've seen a number of disasters on that front and so democrats are also under some pressure to deliver not just to show bipartisanship Not just to kind of be all on one accord here and follow the lead of the white house but also to fix some really immediate problems that they'll have to answer for especially on the campaign trail next year. I just want to ask a little more about infrastructure. Because you know biden said you know he doesn't want to change the filibuster and as we know it saw setback this week because it had that failed boat. Vote that would it be gun debate on the spending package. That's the filibuster you know. Talk about that insistence on. Biden's part for instance. An example would be voting rights with the filibuster. It would need sixty votes to pass. But by carving out a civil rights exception to the filibuster it would just need a simple majority biden's loath to do that..
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Recording Registry adds albums by Janet Jackson, Nas
"Induction of iconic recordings into the Library of Congress. National Recording Registry. Yeah, these air songs and recordings that are going to be preserved for all time. Based on their importance and Janet Jackson's rhythm nation is going on there. The rapper NAS eyes going to be in the national registry, Jackson Browne's 1974 album Late in the day, Albert King's born under a bad sign. Kermit's of the Rainbow Connection. Marlo Thomas is free to be you and me are just some of the inductees