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"Normal. When Jack's lawyer found out about his client's death, he announced that because Jack intended to appeal his conviction, which had not been reviewed by the court. He could not legally be referred to as guilty under Austrian law. Austria's justice minister had a little to say about Jack Quinta Vega's choice to end his life. Other than to say that out of all the lives he took. This quote was his best murder. The conviction and death of Jack unterweger caused a period of deep reflection for those who had campaigned for his release. Special agent Greg mccrary said in an a and E documentary about the case. You educate a psychopath what do you have? You have an educated psychopath. We've not made him better. We've probably made him more dangerous. In 2009, Academy Award nominated actor, John Malkovich, produced in starred in an operatic portrayal of Jack junta Vegas life, which he toured in theaters around Vienna, Spain, France, London, and Los Angeles. Titled the infernal comedy, confessions of a serial killer. The show had taken more than ten years to write and produce. Its musical director had attended one of Jack unto Vega's poetry ratings many years earlier. Of the period surrounding Jack Quinta Vega's short lived release from prison. He told The Guardian, quote it epitomized the thinking at the time that art is stronger than crime. And the far too liberal idea that everybody can be changed. John Malkovich recalled first saying Jacqueline to Vega on a television talk show. He became enthralled with the murderer who fooled so many people. In an interview, malkovich also told The Guardian quote at the time I didn't get it. I wondered why people believed in someone who was so obviously fake. So obviously lying. Only years later did the real story come out. I've.
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"By this stage, Jacqueline to Vega had struck up a relationship with the 17 year old named Bianca Mach, who was more than half his age. Within two weeks of mating, they were living together, and a month later, they got engaged. Jack was a controlling partner. He expected Bianca to cook and clean for him. Forbade her from visiting her friends and didn't like her leaving the apartment. Bianca had taken a job at a bar in Switzerland, which Jack had been supportive of, saying the pay was better than in Austria. On February 15th, 1992, the same day that detectives went to Jack's apartment to arrest him, he surprised Bianca by joining her in Switzerland on an announced. He claimed he was growing tired of all the publicity he received at home. In reality, Jack had learned of his impending arrest after someone liked the news to the press. Soon, he told Bianca that he was being framed, and that I had to flee. The couple drove 650 kilometers from Switzerland to Paris, where they booked a flight to Florida. Bianca had always wanted to visit Miami. Her favorite television show was Miami Vice. So it seemed the ideal location to hide out. The couple rented an apartment in south beach, but struggled to make ends mate. On February 21, 1992, Jack called an Austrian radio station to publicly protest his innocence. He promised to return if he's arrest warrant was with the drone. Jack still had strong support in his homeland, with many members of the public convinced he was buying framed because the police were too inept to catch the real killer. After failing to convince a former girlfriend to provide him with an alibi, Jack started contacting another woman, he had secretly been saying behind Bianca's back in Vienna. He begged her to help him by sending money. Shay didn't have the funds, so she passed along the request to her boss, who was the editor of a magazine called success. He agreed to pay Jack $10,000 in return for an interview from wherever he was hiding. Agreed, and provided instructions for a wire transfer in Miami Beach. On February 27, 1992, Jack had drove to Miami Beach, and Bianca hopped out of the car to collect the money from the wire transfer. As she did so, the couple and their vehicle were suddenly surrounded by U.S. Marshals. Unbeknownst to Jack and his girlfriend in Vienna. The editor of success intensely disliked Jack. After agreeing to pay for an interview, he went straight to the Austrian authorities and told them about the plan. Austrian officials contacted Interpol, who in turn contacted the U.S. Marshals. They organized the stakeout, waiting in an apartment building across the strait for Jack to arrive. When they saw him, they leaped into action. Upon realizing the Marshals were there for him, Jack fled on foot, running through outdoor restaurants and waving through back alleys. But soon the Marshals had him cornered and Jack finally surrendered. He was taken to the Miami metropolitan correctional center, subbing the entire way. Detective Fred Miller and an associate flew to Miami from Los Angeles, the interview him about the three murdered women in their jurisdiction. Shannon actually, rain Rodriguez, and Peggy booth. Whilst there, they took his blood, saliva, and hair samples for DNA analysis. Testing revealed that Jack want to weigh his DNA matched one of the same in samples taken from Shannon xly. With the evidence mounting against him, Jack grew fearful that he would be extradited to California, which had the death penalty. In a lucky break for him, it was against the Austrian law to extradite citizens the jurisdictions with capital punishment. A deal was struck between the USA and Austria that Jack would be tried for the American murders in his home country. He was extradited to graz and arrive on May 28th, 1992, grading the reporters who were waiting at the airport with a wide smile. While Jacqueline de Vega was held in a small jail at the graz criminal courthouse, inspector Ernst, the Gaga and criminal psychologist Fred molla traveled to FBI headquarters in Quantico, Virginia. They enlisted the help of special agent Greg mccrary to create a signature crime analysis of their killer. It was clear to agent mccrary that all the murders shared the same pattern. The killer drive his victims far out of town, strangled them with their own clothing, left their jury on their bodies, took their identification and dumped them near trees or water, and partly covered them with dirt and leaves. The lack of salmon samples that most crime scenes indicated the killer was impotent and struck out against the women in rage. This was consistent with the statement from a sex worker who said Jack had attacked her after failing to climax. The reason why the murderer chose to use pantyhose in Europe compared with bras in the USA was easily explained. In Europe, sex workers did not commonly wear bras. Instead, they donda leotards and pantyhose undergarments. This murderer was different to other serial killers, though. Instead of attacking in Juan familiar area, he wasn't afraid to kill in different countries. This suggested that he was intelligent, sophisticated and organized. After two weeks of analyzing the data, mccrary was convinced that Juan killa was responsible for all the murders, and that killer was Jack unterweger. Jack unterweger had owned 6 different cars during the year he spent out of prison. And although a search of his most recent vehicle revealed in no evidence tying him to any murders, Austrian officials successfully tracked down the first car he'd bought a BMW. It had long since been sold, and was sitting in a junkyard on touched. Investigators searched the vehicle and found his in the passenger seat. A few belonged to Jack unto Vega. Three longer hairs were also found. Only one still had its root attached. A mitochondrial DNA sample was obtained. It matched murdered czechoslovakian sex workup Blanca Booker with 99.99% accuracy. Additionally, the results of 142 red fibers and 153 black fibers found on the body and clothing of Heidi hammer are bound to be consistent with the Jack's red scarf and a pair of black woolen trousers taken from his wardrobe. Jack unterweger was charged with 11.
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"The surveillance, once again. As part of the investigation, authorities began looking into unsolved murders of sex workers in other European countries. They discovered that when Jacqueline had been in Prague for work in September of 1990, four months after he's released from prison, a young woman named Blanca Baku disappeared from the city half that leaving at cafe. Blank his body was discovered the next day in a nearby forest. She was naked and lying face down with a few sticks and twigs, scattered across her body. Blanca had been stabbed once on one of her buttocks and then strangled to death with an unknown ligature, which wasn't at the crime saying. Investigators suspicions that Jack unto Vega was responsible only increased when the landlady of the hotel he'd been staying at reported seeing him in the same city square where Blanca was last seen. Had around the same time that she vanished. Despite the increasing circumstantial evidence against the Jacqueline to Vega. Vienna's district attorney concluded there wasn't enough to warrant an arrest. The district attorney in graz disagreed, and on February 13th, 1992, he successfully petitioned the graz criminal court toward our Jax arrest. Two days later, investigators rushed to Jackson's apartment to apprehend him armed with an arrest warrant. But he wasn't at home. Detectives began rummaging through the residents. It was spotlessly clean, with nothing out of place. However, a search soon uncovered three pairs of handcuffs, a can of Peppa spray, a switchblade knife, and a shotgun. As a convicted felon, Jack was not permitted to own any of these items. Detectives also found a beige leather jacket, similar to the wand described by a witness who had seen Heidi hammer with a short man on the night of her murder. A red scarf seemed similar to the fibers found on Heidi's clothing. Discovered in Jack's library was a collection of books and manuscripts that featured the same unusual words used in prank calls to Rudolf pram. Hades, the atonement, zenith, and references to the figure 8. When investigators eventually learned about the prank calls, they struggled to determine the meaning behind they strange phrases. One possible explanation behind the reference to the figure 8 was that this was the shape or restraint made when tying someone's hands behind their back. Another remark from the coals that puzzled detectives was the killer's claim quote to 11 I have carried out the just punishment. Jack unterweger was suspected of murdering 7 women in Austria and one in Prague throughout the year following his release. Investigate is wondered if there were three more murders they were unaware of. Also found talked amounts to Jack's belongings was a menu for a seafood restaurant in Malibu, California. LAPD detective Fred milla was surprised to receive a long distance call from somewhere as far away as Austria. On the other line, was investigator Ernst, the Geiger, who wanted to know whether any women most likely sex workers had been strangled to death in Los Angeles between June and July of 1991. Detective milla checked. There were three. Shannon actually Irene Rodriguez and Peggy booth. Inspector Ernst Gaga was certain that Jack unterweger was responsible. This explained why the Los Angeles serial killer had abruptly stopped after a two week killing spray. Ernst Gaga traveled to LA to investigate further. If Jack could be tired to those murders, that would make him responsible for the strangulation deaths of 11 women, within one year of his release from prison. Meanwhile, Austrian authorities whited for Jack to return home, so they could arrest him. Unfortunately, for them. Jack had other plans..
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"Two months later, in January, 1991, some children playing in a wooded area on the outskirts of the city came across brunhilda's body. She was lying in a shallow brook, naked, face down, and poorly concealed by a few tree branches. Her clothing and purse had been taken, but she was still wearing her jewelry. She had been stabbed once in the buttock and a pace of fabric was not entirely around her neck. Due to the advanced state of decomposition, the forensic pathologist could not determine what the fabric was. Then, on March 7, 1991, 35 year old sex worker, Alfredo shrimp, also vanished from graz without a trace. It would be another 7 months before her skeletal remains were found not far from where brunhilda had been dumped. She was faced down and naked, her sod from a pair of red socks. Alfred has cause of death couldn't be determined. But strangulation seemed most likely, given there were no other signs of fatal injury, such as bullet knife or blunt force trauma. Despite their best efforts, investigators in grads hadn't been able to find the person responsible for these crimes. But they noticed they bore striking similarities to another unsolved murder that had been committed to light the previous year. On the other side of the country. 31 year old sex work a highly hammerer had vanished from the Austrian city of break ins on the nod of December 5 1990. She'd been spotted at 9 30 p.m. standing on her regular corner near bragan's train station. A few hours later, a neighbor saw Heidi back at home in her apartment garage. She was with a short man who wore a red scarf and a beige leather jacket. That was the last confirmed sighting of her. Just over three weeks later on New Year's Eve. Two hike is traversing the nearby lust in our marsh found hardy's body. She was lying face down and almost fully clothed with her petticoat shoved down her throat. Her wrists showed restraint marks, but there was no evidence that a sexual assault had taken place. Her pantyhose were tied around her neck in a series of tight and intricate knots. And this time, the killer had left evidence behind. Red and black fibers on Heidi's clothing had likely come from something her silent was wearing. When bodies started turning up throughout the Vienna Woods, investigates in grads, noted how similar the crimes were to their own unsolved cases. The way the victims had been found, and the method of killing was almost identical. When they found out that their colleagues in Vienna had looked into Jack unterweger as a person of interest, they began digging into his whereabouts at the time of each murder. Hours before elfred a shrimp disappeared from grads. Jack unterweger was in the nearby town of khufu for a raiding in a local cafe. Members of the public who had come to hear him enjoyed watching Jack's soulful performance. As the event drew to a close at ten 30 p.m., Jack left cool flaw and headed into graz's red light district. The night that Heidi hammer vanished, a white vehicle with the Vienna number plate W Jack one was spotted driving past the train station she stood near. Another sex worker said she had actually seen Jack unterweger approach Heidi before she went missing. The next day, he recorded a performance of his play dungeon at the Austrian broadcasting corporation studios, just 8 miles south of Heidi's apartment. Gradually, the grotz detectives paced together a timeline proving that each time a sex worker went missing. Jack had been attending a book signing or was working nearby. Although he insisted that he had no contact with sex workers outside of his research, a woman came forward with a different story. She had been picked up by Jack unto Vega on October 17, 1990. Not long after she entered his car. He drove her to some nearby Woods, handcuffed her, then began violently raping her. Frightened, the woman began to cry. This seemed to spur Jack on. When he was unable to ejaculate, he angrily released the woman before driving off. The incident had traumatized the sex worker, leaving her terrified ever since. When Jack learned of this woman's statement, he changed his story. Now he admitted that he had picked up a sex worker once, but it was entirely consensual. The handcuffs were nothing more than a birthday gift from a friend that he had stashed in his car's glove box. And suddenly, Jack claimed that he remembered what he had done on the night that one victim went missing. He'd been with a girlfriend in Vienna. Investigators knew this wasn't true. Jack had been seen by a large number of people at a poetry rating on the night in question. This outright liar convinced Austrian authorities that Jack unterweger could indeed be the murderer they were looking for. He was.
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"Around two weeks after the first bodies were found in the Vienna Woods. A reporter from the Austrian broadcasting corporation strolled into police headquarters to speak with chief max Adel Barker. He explained that he had been assigned to cover the newly discovered serial killings because of his personal connection to the crimes. Claiming that he's aunt was a sex worker who had been murdered by a client decades earlier. Chafe Adel Bakr was happy to provide a statement, saying despite a number of aids, so far, we have obtained no positive result. What we are really missing is material evidence. The reporter sympathized with the situation remarking it must be very frustrating for an officer to so to speak, ran into such a dead end. After chafe Adel Barker's shift ended, he returned home and relayed the day's events to his wife. He told her about the journalist who had interviewed him, providing her with the man's name. His wife was surprised. But the chafe didn't know why. He never heard of Jack unterweger before. Jackal was working on multiple paces about the body's found in the Vienna Woods. After Sabina and Karen were discovered, he interviewed sex workers from Vienna's red light district for an article. One woman voiced her fear that they killer had gotten away with it, stating, what can they do now? It's already too late to catch him. They should have taken the missing persons reports more seriously. A tone of dismay permeated a Jack on to Vegas finished article. Quote. The dead in Vienna Woods are another argument for why society should do more to provide security for prostitutes. The more securely integrated a prostitute is in society, the more she can work in safety with less chance of falling victim to a crime. One individual following the coverage of the sex workers slayings with interest was foment detective Al goose Shanna. Although he'd long since retired from the police, Shanna had been fascinated by the news about the women found in the Vienna Woods. They reminded him of a case that he'd never been able to set aside. The murder of marica Harvard in Salzburg in 1973. When Jack unterweger was charged with killing Margaret shafi sometime later, August shenna became convinced he had murdered marika as well. He'd never had enough evidence to charge him, but took some comfort in his suspect receiving a life sentence. Now, almost two decades later, Jack was a fray man and women were being killed again. August Shanna was certain he was responsible. He passed on a message to the police, which eventually raged chafer max eidl Barker. Chafe Adel Barker thought the tip sounded highly unlikely. But as he had no other credible suspect, he decided to put Jacqueline to Vega under surveillance, just in case. Jack led a somewhat lavish lifestyle. He often dawned at cafes and restaurants with high profile people. The rest of the time, he holed up in his high end apartment and worked on his riding. The more chief adolph are observed, the less he believed such a man could be his murderer. On June 10, 1991, Jack went to Vega paid another visit to chief adult Barker's office to tell him he was going to Los Angeles for 5 weeks to write about crime, the sex work industry and law enforcement. He asked if the chief had any connections in the LAPD who could help him. Chafe Adel Barker did not tell Jack that he was being looked at as a person of interest in the Vienna Woods crimes. Because he didn't consider Jack a likely suspect. He had no problem with him traveling to the USA. Jack unterweger thoroughly enjoyed his time in Los Angeles. The morning after Shannon actually was killed, he went sightseeing, and unsuccessfully tried to track down various celebrities to interview, including Cher and the Zsa Zsa Gabor. He got amongst at the gay and lesbian pride parade and a few days after Irene Rodriguez was killed. He saw the sights of Santa Monica. Early one morning, Jack left his room at the Cecil Hotel and strolled the 5 minute walk to the LAPD central community police station. Flashing his ID, he explained what he was doing in the city. When he was offered the chance to go on a ride along with a local patrol officer. Jack left at the opportunity. The patrol officer found the small Austrian man quirky, but friendly enough. He was extremely interested in Los Angeles law enforcement and constantly asked questions as he snapped photos out of their car window. A few days later, Jack returned to the police station and flirted with the female patrol officers, taking pictures of them. Soon after, the third American sex worker, Peggy booth, was murdered. Upon his return to Austria, Jack unterweger met with the chief Adel Parker to discuss what he'd learned about sex work and crime in Los Angeles. As they chatted, chief Adel Barker had admitted to Jack that he was a person of interest in the Vienna Woods murders. Jack wasn't surprised. Commenting that he's background made him an obvious target. While reassuring that chafe that he was in no way responsible. Nevertheless, chae fatal Barker asked Jack to provide alibis for the night that the murdered women had disappeared. He agreed and promised to do so within two weeks. But soon enough, she fatal Barker received a statement from Jack unterweger, saying he couldn't give any alibis for the night in question. As he couldn't remember what he was doing. Meanwhile, almost 200 kilometers south in the Austrian city of graz. Detectives began to suspect that two unsolved murders they were investigating were linked to the Vienna Woods crimes. On the night of October 26th, 1990, brunhilda masa was standing on her regular corner in graz's red light district. As the nearby clock tower, illuminated the time of 1215 a.m. a taxi driver who knew brunhild are pulled over to ask why she was out so late. Brunhilde explained that she was hoping for one last customer before heading home. She planned to take her children on a team in the morning and wanted a bit more spending money for them. The taxi driver bid brunhilda farewell, then continued on his way. Brunhilda never made it home that night..
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"The Jack's early release. He's editor recalled a reading Jack gave instantane prison stating that he's raiding. He was so tender. And at that moment, we decided we had to get him pardoned. But Austrian president Rudolph kersh lager refused to sign off on Jack's release. Pointing out that he was legally required to serve at least 15 years of his life sentence. In 1988, Jack's autobiography was adapted into a film. Hey, collaborated with its director. But differences in autistic vision became evident when Jack continually requested to be portrayed as a hero. The director disagreed, unable to look past the Jack's conviction for murder. He believed Jack had a massive Vega and only used his riding as a means to escape prison. Played at telling British newspaper, The Guardian. Jack doesn't like literature. Jack doesn't like riders. Jack doesn't like anything. Jack only locks Jack. Nevertheless, the film was released to positive reviews, and as the movie gained popularity and Jack's book was taught in Austrian high schools. Support for his release only increased. On May 23, 1990, 39 year old Jack unterweger left prison as a free man. Having served his minimum term of 15 years. His release was due in pa to the campaigning of psychiatrist, doctor Ernest the Bournemouth, who never met Jack, but had read his autobiography. Doctor Bournemouth wrote a letter to the justice minister, which read in part. The man committed a serious act his remorseful, understands the motive of his actions at the time, and has the mains never to have a relapse. I am convinced that this act will never be committed again. Upon Jack's release, one prison warden said we will never find a prisoner so well prepared for freedom. A psychologist at Stein prison, who was straight out of university, had an hour long conversation with the Jack, and wrote that he was now fit for society. Having worked on his problems with intellectual Riga. Jack unterweger was welcomed back into the community with open arms. He settled into an apartment in Vienna and border German Shepherd, he named joy. When Jack walked down the strait and dated cafes, he was constantly.
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"After the murder of Irene Rodriguez, a deputy sheriff who drives to a deserted Malibu hilltop in response to a frantic coal received by the LA county sheriff's department. As described in John Lake's book entering Hades, the deputy was met at the same by a group of men and their children. They'd headed there to view a solar eclipse that was set to black out the Los Angeles skyline by mid morning. Instead, they had stumbled across the body of a dead woman. She was lying on her back with her shirt up around her shoulders, for exposing her breasts. Otherwise, she was fully clothed. Her fingerprints identified her as Peggy booth. Her sex worker, who worked on Hollywood's sunset boulevard, approximately 7 miles from where Shannon and Irene were picked up. Detectives assumed Peggy must have known her murderer well, as the desolate location where she was found, was not a place she would usually frequent. Just a lot Shannon and Darin, Peggy had been strangled to death with her own bra. While the murder of sex workers in Los Angeles was tragically not a rare occurrence. This identical manner of killing was. Doctor Lynn Harold from the LA county sheriff's department analyzed the leakages. In the hundreds of strangulation murders, doctor herold had seen over the course of her career. These three were the only ones she had come across where a victim had been strangled by their own undergarments. The fact that the victim's bras had all been dismantled and tied together in the exact same way. Left her in no doubt that the same person was responsible for all three murders. Detectives began surveilling dantian horns where sex workers were known to operate. In case the killer struck again. But he never did. On July 16th, 1991, the journalist who had reported on the slayings in Los Angeles, boarded a flight back to his home country. He'd gathered ample material for his work, comparing the differences between sex work in LA and Europe. And intended to broadcast these findings in a radio series for the Austrian broadcasting corporation. He also planned to write several articles on the same topic. It was a busy time for the journalist. In addition to his investigative date dive, he also had a book to promote with public signings. In his homeland, the journalist was a beloved public figure, with thousands of fans who adored his empathetic writing style. He considered himself a ladies man and picked up women effortlessly. Even having a whirlwind romance with one of the Cecil hotels receptionists. She hoped to visit him in Austria soon. The journalist was Jack junta Vega. Jack unter Vega's prison sentence for the murder of Margaret shaha, who he had abducted and strangled to death in 1974. Coincided with the period of reform in Austria's pain or system. The nation's minister for justice implemented a program based on the theory that even the most violent criminals could be successfully rehabilitated whilst incarcerated. One prisoner who took advantage of the new opportunities offered, was Jack unto Vega. He became a regular at the prison library, teaching himself to read and rod. Over time, he discovered that he had a natural talent for the written word. He began writing plays, poetry, and short stories for children. While he remained behind bars, he's short stories were broadcast over the radio to the delight of many parents and children who tuned in. In 1983, 8 years into his sentence, Jack unterweger completed his autobiography and titled it, which translates to purgatory in English. Jack told of his tragic childhood and the despair of prison life. Neglecting to mention why he was imprisoned. The book was published to light it that year and became a bestseller. People felt connected to Jack, and his compassionate descriptions of life behind bars. He seemed to relatable genuine and the sensitive. But police inspector, Al ghost Shanna hadn't forgotten about maraka Harvard, the woman who drowned in Salzburg Lake. He remained convinced that Jack on to Vega was responsible and arranged to interview him in prison. A girlfriend of Jack had written a statement placing them in Salzburg on the night of maric's murder. She recalled that Jack had left without explanation for a period of the night. And also remember Jack keeping newspaper clippings about the murder. When she pressed him for information about the clippings, he threw them away. When August shenna confronted Jack with this information in prison, he burst into tears and told the investigator that if this line of questioning continued, he would return to his cell and hang himself. Undeterred, inspector shenan appealed to the district attorney to prosecute Jack for America's murder. As per Austrian law, Jack could only serve one life sentence. But if he was found guilty of killing maricar, time would be added to his current term. The district attorney declined to proceed with the case, telling inspector shenna. He already has a life sentence. He can only be given one. It was suggested that his decision was influenced by the strong links Jack had to prominent Austrians, who wholeheartedly enjoyed his body of work. Although inspector shenna was outraged, he had nowhere else to turn. It wasn't long before figure foyer caught the attention of Austria's literary elite. They praised the autobiography, describing it as the ultimate example of the power the yachts had to transform lives. Those responsible for the country's prison reform held up at Jack unterweger as their greatest success story. In 1984, Jack received an award for his work, a stage production titled terminal prison. He was permitted day release to attend the opening night performance, and arrived to a throng of photographers clamoring to take his picture. In 1995, Austria's literary community began to petition.
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"Jack ray appeared and grabbed a steel rod from the glove box. Then dragged Margaret from the car. He asked Barbara if she'd like to accompany him. She declined, but watched as Jack could drag the naked Margaret across the snow covered ground. They disappeared into a thicket of nearby trees. In a statement, Barbara leda told detectives I was terribly afraid for her, but also for myself. About 15 minutes later, he came back to the car, and after he sat in the driver's seat, he handed me the steel rod, which was covered with blood and hair. What did you do with her? I asked him. He replied. There's no way she can betray us now. While there was no physical evidence from the crime scene linking Jack to the murder, his girlfriend Barbara's confession was enough to warrant action. On January 17, 1975, just a month after Margaret's murder, Jack unto Vega was arrested and charged. Due to a trading between Germany and Austria, and Jack, an Austrian citizen would be tried in his homeland, despite killing Margaret in Germany. It is unclear whether he's girlfriend Bob Ross faced any legal ramifications for her actions on the night of Margaret's murder. In July, 1975, while still waiting for Margaret shaffer's murder trial to begin. Jack unto Vega was tried for violent offenses against four other women in Austria. He was found guilty and sentenced to three years in prison. One year into his sentence, the murder trial finally commenced. In court, Jack wore a dark suit with a gaudy tie. While his long Shaggy hair fell around his face. Short, slim and baby faced with delicate features and small, wide eyes. Jack unter Vega didn't look like a stereotypical criminal. The prosecution instructed those present to look beyond his appearance, as they heard the evidence against him. The trial drew a large crowd. They listened attentively as Jack's defense team spoke of his troubled childhood. He was born in 1950 in the historic Austrian town of udan Borg. His mother was a waitress and sex worker. Jack's father, who he never met, was an American soldier. He'd been part of a group of U.S. troops occupying the area following the end of World War II. When Jack was about 18 months old, his mother was jailed for fraud, and he was sent to live with his grandfather in a desolate rundown cottage in the Austrian countryside. It was during this time that Jack struggled the most. His grandfather was a violent alcoholic, who beat Jack for misbehaving. Jack often claimed that he was forced to sleep in the same bed as his grandfather, while the elderly man had sex with various girlfriends and sex workers. However, this was likely not true. With many of Jack's stories about his childhood being embellished and exaggerated for sympathy. Ever since his arrest, Jack unterweger had denied murdering Margaret shaffer. But on the stand, he suddenly broke down. He admitted to baiting Margaret and then strangling her with her own bra. When he looked into her face, he saw his mother's, which caused him to explode with rage and hatred. Jack sobbed and pleaded for forgiveness. Instead of being forgiven, he was found guilty and given a life sentence to be served in prison at maximum security facility in krems, Austria. Police inspector, Al ghost Shanna, sat in the courtroom, listening to Jacqueline to Vegas sentencing with interest. The murder of Margaret shafa, bore strong similarities to a case that had landed on his desk three years earlier. On April 1, 1973, the body of a petite woman with long black hair was found floating in a Lake in Salzburg. Aged in her mid 20s, she wore a turtleneck jumper and was naked from the Weiss to down. The woman's ankles had been tied together tightly with her stockings, and her wrists bound expertly behind her back with a necktie. A bandage, likely taken from a car's first day kid, was wrapped multiple times around her head and mouth, acting as a makeshift gag. She had been violently beaten across the face, but the cause of her death was drowning. An autopsy revealed the woman had sexual intercourse just prior to her murder, but it could not be determined if she had been raped, or if it was consensual. When tire marks were discovered leading to the light shoreline from the surrounding Woodland, a horrifying picture began to emerge. The woman had been undressed, restrained and gagged, then dragged from a car to the Lake and thrown in while still alive. The following morning, a man named mato havard, reported his wife missing. Marica or vat had failed to return home after catching a bus into Salzburg two nights prior. Mato was taken to see the body of the woman recovered from the Lake, and was devastated to find that she was his wife, marikar. At the time, Austria had one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world, and murders were virtually unheard of. Catching maric's killer was of the utmost importance, so the country's top detectives were assigned to the case and now expenses were spared. Despite this, a lack of blades and physical evidence had authorities coming up empty. Over time, the investigation dwindled, and the murder gradually faded from public attention..
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Casefile True Crime
"Would like a left home to save walking in the cold night air. Margaret gratefully agreed. Three weeks later, a group of hunters were navigating through a dense copse of trees in a wooded area outside of the German town of hair born. As they carefully made their way through the forest, they spotted something. Lying face down beneath a tall Conifer was the naked body of a woman. Someone had tried to cover her with leaves and branches, but her skin and dark curly hair were still visible. It was Margaret Shaw far. Her wrists had been restrained before she was beaten about the head with a blunt object. Then her attacker had used Margaret's own bra to strangle her. It had been expertly tied in a unique series of knots to form an extremely taught ligature. German detectives attended the location and commenced an investigation, making shorter interview those close to Margaret. This led them to her friend, Barbara. It wasn't long before she cracked under the Prussia. 24 year old Jack unterweger was already well known to authorities in the neighboring country of Austria. In 1970, Jack abducted a 16 year old girl and tried to force her into sex work. His extensive rap sheet also featured charges for robbery, car theft, burglary, and fraud. Over time, Jack added sexual assault to his long list of criminal convictions. Women were easy targets for him. He presented himself as intelligent, gregarious, wealthy, and well groomed, and was able to charm his victims. Despite his urban persona, the truth was that Jack was broke, and could not read or write. Throughout 1973, and 74, Jax assaults landed him short stints in prison, but every time he was released, he attacked again. Over time, his violence against women escalated. Luck the time he attacked to Julia in a field outside Salzburg. Having gotten a good look at Jack, Shea quickly identified him as her attacker, and he was sent to prison for the assault in mid 1974. After attempting to take his own life, Jack was transferred to a local psychiatric hospital. A few months later, he was released and decided to make a fresh start in Frankfurt, who Germany. It was there that he began dating a young woman named Barbara. On the night of December 11, 1974, Jack and Barbara decided they needed some easy cash and hatched a plan to rub Barbara's parents. They drive from Frankfurt to Barbara's hometown of Eva's Bach, and headed directly to her family's house. They'd expected to find it empty. But to their dismay, Barbara's parents were home. Their plan foiled, the couple began driving around town, looking for someone else to rob. Soon, they spotted Margaret shaffer, walking all alone. Barbara new Margaret well, she had previously lived next door to her, and the two were friends. Barbara told Jack as much, and hey, hastily pulled over so they could offer Margaret a lift. She happily accepted. The two women chatted in the cars back seat while Jack drove. After a little while, he stopped by the side of the road. As recounted in the book entering Hades, by John Lake, Jack, asked Barbara. Do you have anything else you want to tell her? When Barbara said no, Jack remarked. Then now we'll get to the point. He grabbed Margaret by her shirt, finding her slim frame easy to pull into the front seat. Using Barbara's belt, he restrained Margaret's hands behind her back. After rifling through her belongings and pocketing some cash, Jack could drive to Margaret's house. Bob rah let herself inside, with a key from Margaret's purse. She wandered through the residence, pocketing about $40 from Margaret's room, and grabbing some clothing as well. Meanwhile, Jack, white it in the car with Margaret. He had pushed her to the rear footwell, and she was unable to move. When Barbara returned, Jack could drive 30 kilometers south to herborn, asking Barbara if she knew of any woodlands nearby. As Margaret sobbed in the back of the car, Barbara directed Jack pasta restaurant and onto a forest road. Jack could drive deep into the Woods, then parked the car. He untied Margaret and ordered her to take her clothes off. But she refused. Jack punched her in the face before undressing her himself. When he hopped out of the car, Margaret asked Barbara, what he was going to do to her. Barbara just shrugged in reply..
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan
"Oh also the seasonal had the incredible distinction of hosting not one but two serial killers in nineteen eighty-five. Richard ramirez aka. The night stalker lived at the seoul during part of his campaign of rape and murder. Now i'm not an insatiable consumer of the work of serial killer. So i didn't know much about richard ramirez before researching this episode. At first. i got really excited. Because i thought my future husband jake. Jillian hall had been in a movie about him which would have given me an excuse to lock myself in my bedroom with my laptop and a bottle of wine but it turns out that that movie was called the night crawler. I was very disappointed to learn this. Ramirez murdered at least fourteen people between june eighty four in august eighty five. His method of killing was pretty much always different but always extremely gruesome an awful. What i put myself through for you guys. Apparently he would dump his bloody clothes outside the hotel and just walk through the lobby in to his room. Almost completely naked. The hotel was in such a state of mayhem in disarray. At that point that no one blinked. I wanna point out that it's more than likely that this half naked man would have some blood on him but there. He was just strolling through the lobby. Like the cecil hotel had become the setting of a mad. Max movie also not for nothing but ramirez was incredibly scary looking like he could have played for raw to complete with rotting teeth without any makeup. It's bad enough to be murdered. You know but to be murdered by the guy who looks like the crypt keeper from tales of the dark side. Just salt on a wound. I imagine it's far more pleasant to be murdered by jake chilin hall in the summer of nineteen ninety-one serial killer austrian-born jack unterweger stayed at the seasonal unterweger was convicted in one thousand nine hundred seventy five in austria.
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Today in True Crime
"This episode is brought to you by square. You know square you've seen their cool white registers where you eat or shop but you know they also have tools to grow your business online with square you get more than a website. You get a suite of connected tools designed for doing business. Online square can help you sell products book appointments and take orders online fast. See what square can do for your business at square dot com slash go slash spotify now back to the story on june twenty-fourth nineteen ninety-one austrian journalist. Jack hunter vaguer obtained permission to ride along with lapd officers the very next day he joined sergeant steve staples on a drive around the city. Vaguer used the opportunity to case the city for his next victim. Meanwhile staples had no clue. He was show furring a dangerous serial killer a few days after the ride along hunter vaguer claimed his next victim. He killed thirty-three-year-old sex worker. Irene rodriguez by posing as a customer and then strangling her with her own bra. Five days later he struck again murdering another sex worker named peggy booth. It's not known for sure whether he targeted the women after spotting them on the ride along. But it's possible. He did after booths. Death forty year old winter vaguer returned to austria on july sixteenth. His trip had come to an end and with his departure. The case grew cold however he wasn't entirely in the clear in his home country. Either the three women attacked in. La weren't his first victims over the previous year. He was thought to have murdered seven sex workers in austria and one more in prague austrian authorities were left as perplexed as their los angeles counterparts. Though jack hunter vaguer fit the bill as a prime suspect no one was focused on him at least not yet. Vaguer thought he was untouchable in australia. He was a famous poster boy for successful criminal rehabilitation a little over fifteen years earlier in nineteen. seventy six. He was arrested and charged with the murder of eighteen year. Old margaret shaeffer. It was undoubtedly a horrific crime and he was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison but while behind bars hunter vaguer started writing. He penned poems plays children's stories and novels. he even became a quasi celebrity in the literary world. His memoir purgatory was critically acclaimed. Soon the who's who of the european literati started to call for his early release. They argued that he was the prime example of a criminal who had changed his ways in prison. They felt he should be celebrated and rewarded not kept behind bars on may third nineteen ninety after fifteen years in prison. Thirty nine year old daughter vaguer was released to the world. He pretended to be rehabilitated. But that was far from the truth. In september nineteen ninety just four months after being released. He murdered a check. Sex worker named blanquita both over the next months he killed seven more but while some on the police force suspected vaguer was responsible there was hardly any evidence so he was free to travel the world after his la trip. Hunter vaguer returned to austria assuming he was still free of suspicion but it didn't take long for authorities to finally start putting the pieces together by february of the following year austrian. Police believed that. The great rehabilitated. Jack unterweger was actually a serial killer. They got a search warrant and raided his apartment but winter vaguer had already fled the scene. He made for switzerland then paris and eventually ended up in miami for over a year. He had been meticulous about destroying any evidence tying him to the murders but as he tried to run he started making mistakes. He used credit cards. When he shouldn't have and attempted to contact journalists to plead his innocence the us marshalls tracked him down and arrested him on march fifth. Nineteen ninety two after that. Austrian and american police officers started trading information. It became clear that the killer they were both looking for was one and the same jack unterweger. He was extradited to austria where he was charged with eleven murders including the ones he'd committed in la and prog. The jury found him guilty of nine and he was sentenced to life in prison. This time without the possibility of parole owner vaguer said he would appeal but the very next day he died by suicide in his cell whether it was his intention or not intervene. Final act muddied. His conviction under austrian law guilty verdicts weren't legally binding until the requested appeals process was completed. So he was never technically confirmed as guilty for his crimes. However none of that changed the public's perception as far as the world is concerned kuntar. Vaguer was one of austria's greatest monsters that's the legacy that's remained since his death. Thanks for listening today and true crime. I'm vanessa richardson. You can find more episodes of today and true crime and all other spotify originals. From podcast for free on spotify. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in true crime today in. True crime is a spotify. Original from podcast. It is executive produced by max cutler. Sound designed by paul liba skin with production assistance. By ron shapiro trent williamson carleen madden and bruce kato. This episode of today and true crime was written by burns with writing assistance by terrel wells. And fact checking by bennie. Logan i'm.
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Today in True Crime
"Article. Orator vaguer was really scouting for more victims. Welcome to today and true crime. A spotify original from podcast. Due to the graphic nature of this killer's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and suicide that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen today. Were exploring how. Jack unterberger deceived the los angeles police department though for a time he was treated as a revered writer and journalist orator vaguer was later exposed as a serial killer who claimed at least ten victims. Let's go back to los angeles on june twenty-fourth nineteen ninety one forty year old jock Awoke early in his room at the seaside hotel. It was a famous building in. La known for a history of strange and macabre deaths. It was the perfect place for a man like baker who had his own twisted and violent back story. He rubbed the sleep from his eyes and rolled out of bed to get dressed. He pulled on white snakeskin boots and a flashy jacket he had chosen for the visit. He was in la for a business trip on behalf of an austrian magazine. He wanted to make an impression. The attire wasn't exactly in conspicuous which was odd. Considering that inter vaguer was in the middle of a killing spree that spanned three different countries. Most murderers have tried to avoid detection but enter vaguer was the opposite. He wanted to throw himself right in the middle of the action so he combed his hair back checked over his outfit and grabbed his press. Credentials he'd been commissioned to write an article about crime and law enforcement in los angeles and he had an early meeting with the lapd that same morning homicide detective. Fred miller read a report about the brutal slaying of twenty year. Old sex worker named shannon excellent actually had been strangled with her own. Bra and miller was concerned that her murderer would strike again soon. The killer had been disturbingly methodical. He hurriedly called the division that was handling the case for more details he had no idea that the culprit was just a few hundred feet away from him that very moment. Jack owner vaguer stranded into the lapd offices with a confidence reserved for those who truly think. They're smarter than everyone else. That was because he knew the police didn't he was the murderer they were after he had killed shannon expertly and now he was on the hunt for his next victim but rather than roam the streets for another sex worker to target. He decided to enlist the help of the police so he made a beeline for the receptionist. Lunar vaguer flashed his charming smile and rattled off his press credentials before asking if he could talk to about a ride along. It was easy to believe him. He had all the right paperwork and he knew just how to manipulate someone into doing what he wanted. His request was passed up. The chain soon. Enough word came back to him. He had an appointment scheduled with sergeant. Steve staples for the very next day. Owner vaguer made his way back to the seasonal hotel. A few hours later smiling to himself. He got a rush from outsmarting the cops. It was all too easy. He knew the lapd had found shannon lee's body. He knew they were searching for a suspect and he had just walked right into their downtown offices scheduled a ride along with them and then left with no one the wiser he could hardly contain himself as he headed back up to his room. He could only imagine what his right along. The next day had in store up next jack travailler murders two more women every so often something so impactful happens. It has the power to capture the attention of a whole country in event so deadly or dumb founding. It has no choice but to live on in infamy high podcasters. It's ashley flowers. I'm exposing the most sinister cases from the darkest corners of the globe in my new true crime limited series international infant. Every tuesday come along. I guide you on a wicked world tour. Fifteen different countries fifteen infamous crimes take a trip to iceland. Were six people confess to a murder. That never actually happened journey to mexico where.
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Ghostly
"Facts. Facts facts bags x. Our past history lesson for all of us about the see soul at i think you all are gonna be extremely surprised. A throughout the grim history. That is the hotel seasonal for me like the ghost story is always great. I always appreciate that kind of stuff But i i like to get to the history part. I like to know what took place around that time because it gives us a brand new perspective on these ghost stories and sometimes sheds light into what might be like a little bit of a falsehood. Just saying okay. So for the so hotel. The see-saw was built in nineteen twenty four by three hoteliers. William banks hanner charles l. dick's and robert soups as a destination for business. Travelers and tourists. Now the fancy people would pronounce it. Hotelliers yeah hoteliers call hours. I guess that shows it's a spine ask wanted to put that in. The hotel cost one point five million dollars to complete and had marble floors stained glass windows in the lobby so it was fancy in. It's dan the lobby very fancy. Yeah and Just so people know. There is roughly seven hundred rooms in the see-saw hotel huge. It is very very big one. Yeah So the first documented suicide and by the way This might be a trigger for some people so we have prepared to give you the suicide. Prevention hotline number of suicide national suicide prevention hotline number is one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five If you just search suicide hotline you're going to not only get a phone number. You're going to get a chat line and a website with a lot of great information so you know. Help us out there and If this is triggering for you and we just want to do that because there will be a lot of talk of suicide and a lot of violence within this episode many awarding this episode sheltered in isis prepared. Absolutely just know that. Your mental health is warranted. We love every single one of you. So the first documented suicide at the c. Slow occurred and evening of january twenty second nineteen twenty seven when percy orman cook Who was fifty two years old. Shot himself in the head while inside his hotel room after failing to reconcile with his wife and child on the next reported death occurred in nineteen thirty. One when a guest w k norton. I always loved people. Just use their initials w k norton on. He died in his room after taking poison capsules. That's i mean ask dramatic yeah right. That sounds like a spy or something within four years each other to. That's that's short timespan I mean i. I'm prepared to talk about this Being that they're seven hundred rooms there and that there is That it's been opened almost one hundred years old. There is a surprising low amount of suicides at the seoul hotel. I would say Five years after it was built america would sink into the great depression. This didn't immediately mean that was the end of the soul but the decades beyond the nineteen forty saw the hotel decline because the nearby area became what is known as skid row. As many as ten thousand homeless people lived within a four mile radius. This is a hotel that you could pay for a night a week or even a month at a time so it attracts a certain clientele and also They they really want tourists to come in there. But it's like really low budget tourist area so well and and it's more like you said it's a something that people can almost live in. Yeah in many people did or do i in nineteen. Go ahead bob. I've actually been to skid row and outside the sea so hotel and when they say ten thousand people. It's not an over exaggeration. Now it's almost like a mini city within the city walks. Really it is. Yeah i mean it is definitely a sight to see. There's a lot of tents out there you know being being from chicago. I always wondered how we have homeless people in chicago like. Why wouldn't you go someplace warmer. And i you know always like why don't you go to california and i didn't realize that they do. That's where a lot of homeless people live so in one thousand nine hundred sixty four retired telemarketer named pigeon goldie. Asthma is good. Who has been a well known and well liked. Long-term resident at the hotel was found dead in her room she had been raped. Stabbed beaten and a room was ransacked. Jack be etlinger was charged with as goods murder because he was seen covered in blood roaming the streets close to the hotel but he was later cleared as a suspect. Her murder remains unsolved at. What's kinda scary to think about his around there like someone wandering the streets covered in blood. Kind kinda like it happens imagery but not too much baby right. Perhaps most infamously in the nineteen eighties. The hotel may have been the residence of serial killer. Richard ramirez nicknamed the night stalker. Ramirez was a regular presence on skid row area of los angeles according to a hotel clerk who claims to have spoken to him. Ramirez is rumored to have stayed at the so for a few weeks and another serial killer. Austrian jack unterweger state at the seoul in nineteen ninety-one possibly because he sought to copy ramirez crimes while there he strangled in killed at least three sex workers for which he was.
"jack unterweger" Discussed on That’s Strange
"A satanist and and did the those sorts of rituals. I mean it is known that that people that practice that you know if they go into a A location that was previously blessed by a priest. Or however you want to know. Like i said however you want to call it that he then went in there and then woke that up and then after that you know some of the some of the other things that we're gonna talk about you know kind of congress which is an interesting theory and also he happened to be across the hall from. I believe a room where a gentleman had actually jumped out of the window and killed himself so literally right across the hall This this guy is is staying in this room. And he's doing doing his thing he actually went. It was basically was told. I don't think it was actually a proven that he would do rituals on the rooftop with which will become important in a minute So put a pin in that. Not to steal your your phrase chad stolen. It's fine store every yeah well good. I'm sorry that i stole it. But you know. I feel like it belongs to the podcast. So true does Anyway so years later so this was in one thousand nine hundred five that ramirez was was arrested. He was identified but years. Later in nineteen ninety-one Gentleman named jack unterweger. Checked in an entre weather is is an interesting character. He was seemingly an unassuming journalist from austria who was assigned a story to write about crime in l a he even went so far as to prearrange ride. Alongs with the lapd who introduced him to the crime in the area gave him a tour of the darkest parts of skid row in nineteen ninety-one and. I said earlier that this that the nineties were really bad by all accounts. The early nineties were one of the like probably the height of crime in this area of la so this is a really particular time that he happens to be there so you know he checks in he he goes there he even stayed well. It was originally reported that he stayed on the fourteenth floor. But that was actually proven. Wrong later He stayed on the seventh floor or something like that but now jack was in fact a journalist and he was a writer but he was also a prostitute killer. He had actually killed several prostitutes in austria and was only released by the way this is insane was only released by the austrian government after they read the things. He was writing in his jail cell and considered him to be rehabilitated. He killed people in the seventies and was jailed until nineteen ninety. Got out of this. I did remember hearing i. I remember hearing that he was let out of prison and where he was from and then he came here with. But but for that reasoning. That's insane it almost. It just doesn't even make sense. And then what follows from. This is is even worse so a newspaper there because he ended up being a playwright newspaper there in austria actually hired him and said hey go to la. We're gonna have you write about crime in l. a. because we want to cover that..
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"At Lisa. Lambs deaf. Numerous theories of sprung up from all corners of the Internet Usually these are Fascinating no right. But you own your words. My time I respect and everything about you sometimes a relatively mundane others are a bit out there. Let's let's call them extraordinary but let's start off with the least unusual. What if Lisa Lamb in the grip of a bipolar episode? Climb the water tower self accessed The roof and the stairs and open the hatch and disrobed and dropped inside. Okay so this is a possibility. This would probably be comes. Razor may perhaps this would be where you'd start with Th this is the one that I would probably start with if I was an investigator and if only just to rule it out so we know that it's possible to access the roof as of who is Mister Lopez mentioned by getting up to the top floor then climbing the stairs opening a door that an alarm on it. And then you're on the roof and you can gain access to the water tanks. It's a little convoluted to get there. We have some pictures here where you can look at it And you can find them online too if you wish. Look at this seasonal hotel roof but we also know from a video that was posted by someone online. Who tried to retrace the steps of Lisa lamb and this person went through the whole hotel room at the seasonal hotel. Got To one of the top floor is not the very top one where you can access the roof through the stairs but you can access a fire escape by climbing a ladder and then you can get to the roof that way and then from there you can climb another ladder. Gets you up to the smaller tower. That's above where the water tanks are and it is very much possible. That is one way at least lamb did access these water tanks the hatch itself the way you get into one of these water tanks is about sixteen inches large and I have not seen anyone. I don't know if you guys have seen anyone actually opening one of these things I haven't seen video of it At least I'm not aware of it now. All four tanks are four by eight feet. That's one point. Two by two point four meters. These cylinders are propped up on these fairly large concrete blocks. Which is why Lopez describes his ten foot tank. Exactly and there's no fixed access to them. You can't just climb up a ladder that's attached to one of these tanks to get into it. That's why it's thought that. Perhaps she went up around the ladder on the other side and again they're protected. By this heavy lids there is a reddit post on unresolved mysteries. Ben. The U. And I definitely looked at and on here someone goes through starts looking at the physics of what this hatch would be because this is something. You can't find anywhere through the official sources and it appears that will be around thirty pounds. Fifty pounds heavy Depending on what gauge of steel. It's made of which is fairly heavy if you think about that trying to lift that up but not impossible to lift certainly not impossible and while lamb was a diminutive person that's not automatic proof that she couldn't lift hatch. The big question is whether the hatch was locked then nights right and whether there was a way to access the roof as a customer guest of the hotel and that leads us to the second theory which is a bit darker what if Lisa Lamb was obstructed and murdered. This would explain why she seemed behaving erratically. In the video maybe there was someone actually following her that she was trying to get away from. I find that a little difficult given that she didn't run that she was just kind of hanging out in this elevator looking around but not really making any efforts to escape anything immediately threatening her. But let's continue So there's no proof that she wasn't murdered. Let's get that out of the way for sure. She made blog posts while she was staying at. This hotel. Talking about having trouble with quote unquote creepers I guess you know you can interpret that any number of ways whether or not that was someone that was actually following her around a single individual that she identified or whether it was just like you said it was in Abadan. Beg catcalls that kind of stuff and general pleasantness The blog was updated several times after her death Which is very unusual one of the images. It's on there is a like a graphic image of light bulb Hanging from a string against a kind of a drab wall backdrop and inside the light bulb is Kind of snowy scene with a with a little shack and a tree found that a little unsettling myself but Ben. You mentioned you feel like this could have been a series of scheduled posts. Perhaps right people can. Do you know the Internet has a weird approach to time you can write a blog post and schedule it for years in the future. Technically but still if you look at what was it. No you did the legwork on this to you you saw the most recent post was Definitely like the same year but months later. Yeah so it's then it becomes a question of win when that post was actually written or scheduled to publish or if there was someone else maybe a friend or a relative or another unknown person who had access to the biggest signpost to to this like if she had a murderer who was a war an employee of the hotel then that would explain why they were able to get up there the doors and the stairs that access the hotel's roof or locked with only staff having the passcode and keys any attempt to force them would have in theory triggered an alarm for the record in later legal dealings between the hotel staff and lambs. Parents lawsuits The staff stated that they did not hear any alarm on the night of lambs disappearance and probable death and something to think about here is if she did access the roof through some other means through fire escape or something. It would in my mind if she was attacked by someone not on the roof and then taken to the roof. That would be extremely difficult to do without having access to the door. That has an alarm on it. Yes yes that's a very good point. And the lack of evidence of sexual assaults makes some of that a bit difficult to believe for me. I mean if you're going to take a young lady you know up to the roof like that. It seems like you would have nefarious intent unless it was some sort of serial killer that lose. Nemo did not include any kind of sexual assault right right and if it was a male serial killer male serial killers are typically typically have some sort of aspect of that with them right And you know. Serial killer wouldn't be too out of the ordinary of the seasonable hotel that's true but it has a history of Was Ramirez is Richard Ramirez. Stayed there for a little while the not the original night stalker but the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez. The more mainstream night's sleep along with his copycat Jack Unterweger Lived at the WHO at the seasonal hotel while they committed their crimes. This goes into one of the stranger theories the idea and this is for people who believe in things like ghosts store possession of sorts. The seasonal hotel has a very troubling history similar to the overlook hotel in the shining. It seems to be The by some dark lottery of coincidence it is a place where a lot of bad things have happened. Elizabeth Short also known as the Black Dahlia was supposedly Staying at the Seoul before she was murdered in nineteen forty seven. Goldie osgood known as the Pigeon Lady of pershing square was raped and murdered in her hotel room. There sixty four and as we said serial killers stayed there while they were active The hotel has also been the location of multiple many suicides including and this is a very strange one. One woman who committed suicide by jumping out of a window off the ledge and then killed a completely innocent person who just happened to be walking by. That is the this is a family show. So I'll say that is the crappiest day ever Thomas. As though if there were some sort of malignant energy seeping out from this place this is almost an example of it reaching out into the greater world around it and indeed unhappy in effect. That's true it's possible or you take the other side and if I embody Jonathan Strickland for a moment you just say well maybe it could just be an area where this hotel is located right. That's an Jonathan. Strickland is a is friend of the show host of podcast tech stuff and also will make occasional appearances. Here guys peeled. Oh He's also our complaint department so if you complaints leasing them directly just Jonathan Dot Strickland House of Works Dot Com. But yeah that is a good point. Is it just simply that? It is a budget hotel in a bad area. I mean it's possible but do you believe that there can be places with bad or good energy. It's an interesting question. Because many times people would dismiss that as some sort of quote unquote hippy. Dippy thing however we do have we we did find an earlier episode on ghosts that there's compelling evidence that human beings are sensitive to certain frequencies and energies that we do not consciously interpret. You know of someone they're they're frequencies that can make you hallucinate frequencies of noise frequencies of electromagnetic radiation and the vast majority of people throughout civilization right because we only only really recently started understanding magnetism. And if I quote ICP Don't do a lot of people still aren't clear on on what's going on with magnets so most people food you good way to put it. Most people will just say you know if you hear something spooky. You're at this year at this graveyard at this place. Where people repeatedly citing strange phenomenon and you experience it yourself. A lot of people aren't going to instantly turn into some sort of Vulcan and go well logically. A lot of people are going to lake either. Run or take out their camera or freak out and I wonder if there's a if there's such things as good places you know there are a couple here in the Atlanta Area. That are rumored to be like that There's a spot in Arabia mountain which is fun fact. Also location. A part of the filming location. Pet Cemetery to Really Arabia mountains and interesting place. You go into feels like you're almost on the moon like at these bizarre craters that support some kind of do you know the specifics of the type of That licinio system read. Yeah makes the water read? So they're all these pools of blood red water with Mossy kind of fuzzy little ecosystems within them And it looks like nowhere else I've ever been in my life if you're ever in Atlanta Eric Cairns little stacks of rocks. I is it. Is it cursed the area there or is it a good place? Well it seems to be usually a bad place because the reports we would always always here where that it had a higher than average incidence of violent crime which again could just be the location It's a very old old place it's part of the fourth largest BASALTIC extrusion Which it's it's also part of the same gigantic chunk of Basaltic rock that formed stone mountain which is another fairly odd Atlanta attraction. And Yeah like Nole said the plants. There seem completely almost completely you know in does for Laker on the Moon There were some very dodgy. Murders there in the seventies you can see where at the site of one death. Someone wrote the Lord's prayer and white paints and I remember going there. Many years ago to have seen somebody scrawling it out in black paint and writing. He can't hear you and I don't know who stacks those rocks but anyway it's it's a strange place and it's easy. It's surprisingly easy to get lost there too But for people who believe in very good places a very bad places very spiritual places We would like to hear what you think if you think that's real and if you think there's a reason behind whether that reason scientific or spiritual You know we have. You heard stuff before about laylines. Geomagnetic theories of we've also heard arguments about things like altitude affecting someone's perception or sea level..
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Why they were able to get up there. The doors and the stairs that access the hotel's roof or locked with only staff, having the past coding keys. Any attempt to force them would have in theory triggered an alarm for the record. In later legal dealings between the hotel, staff and lambs, parents suits The staff stated that they did not hear any alarm on the night of lambs, disappearance and probable death. And something to think about here is if she did access the roof through some other means through fire, escape or something, it would in my mind if she was attacked by someone not on the roof and then taken to the roof. That would be extremely difficult to do without having access to the door. That has an alarm on it. Yes, yes, that's a very good point and the lack of evidence of sexual assaults makes some of that a bit difficult to believe for me. I mean if you're going to take a young lady up to the roof like that. It seems like. You would have nefarious intent. Unless it was some sort of serial killer that lose Nemo did not include any kind of sexual assault right right and if it was. A male serial killer male serial killers are typically typically have some sort of aspect of that with them. Right and you know serial killer wouldn't be too out of the ordinary of the seasonable hotel. That's true. That has a history of What was Ramirez Richard? Ramirez stayed there for a little while the not the original night stalker, but the night stalker. Richard Ramirez the more mainstream night's still along with his copycat Jack. UNTERWEGER lived at the WHO at the Season Hotel while they committed their crimes. This goes into one of the stranger theories. The idea and this is for people who believe in things like ghosts store possession of sorts. The seasonal hotel has a very troubling history similar to the overlook hotel in the shining. It seems to be the. By some dark lottery of coincidence, it is a place where a lot of bad things have happened. Elizabeth Short also known as the black. Dahlia was supposedly a staying at the Seoul before she was murdered in nineteen, forty seven. Goldie osgood known as the Pigeon Lady of Pershing Square, was raped and murdered in her hotel room, there sixty four. And as we said, serial killers stayed there while they were active The hotel has also. been the location of. Multiple, many suicides! Including and this is a very strange one one woman who. COMMITTED, suicide by jumping out of a window off the ledge, and then killed a completely innocent person who just happened to be walking by. That is the. This is a family show so I'll say that is the crappiest day ever. Thomas as though if there were some sort of. Malignant Energy. Seeping out from this place, this is almost an example of it. Reaching out into the greater world around it and indeed unhappy in effect, that's true. It's possible or you take the. Other side, and if I embody Jonathan Strickland for a moment, you just say well. Maybe it could just be an area where this hotel is located, right? That's an Jonathan Strickland is a is friend of the show host of podcast, tech stuff and also will make occasional appearances here. Peeled Oh. He's also our complaint department, so if you complaints leasing them directly just Jonathan Dot Strickland. HOUSE OF WORKS DOT COM, but yeah, that is a good point. Is it just simply that it is a budget hotel in a bad area? I mean it's possible. But, do you believe that there can be places with bad or good energy? It's an interesting question because. Many times, people would dismiss that as some sort of quote, unquote, hippy, dippy thing. However we do, have we. We did find an earlier episode on ghosts that there's compelling evidence that human beings are sensitive to certain frequencies and energies that we do not consciously interpret you know of someone they're. They're frequencies that can make you hallucinate frequencies of noise frequencies of electromagnetic radiation and The vast majority of people throughout civilization right because we only only really recently started understanding magnetism, and if I quote ICP don't do a lot of people still aren't clear. On on what's going on with magnets so most people? Food you good way to put it. Most people will just say you know if you hear something spooky. You're at this. You're at this graveyard at this place where people repeatedly citing strange phenomenon and you experience it yourself. A lot of people aren't going to instantly turn into some sort of Vulcan and go well. Logically, a lot of people are going to lake either run or take out their camera or freak out. and I wonder if there's a if there's such things as good places you know there are a couple here in the Atlanta area that are rumored to be like that There's a spot in Arabia Mountain, which is fun fact, also location a part of the filming location pet cemetery to. Really, Arabia Mountains and interesting place you go into feels like you're almost on the moon, like at these bizarre craters that support some kind of. Do you know the specifics of the type of that licinio system? Read Yeah makes the water read, so they're all these pools of blood red water with Mossy kind of fuzzy little ecosystems within them and it's. Looks like nowhere else. I've ever been in my life if you ever in Atlanta Eric. Cairns little stacks of rocks. I is it. Is it cursed? The area there, or is it a good place? Well! It seems to be usually a bad place. Because the reports. We would always always here where that. It had a higher than average incidence of violent crime. which again could just be the location It's a very old old place. It's part of the fourth largest BASALTIC extrusion which it's. It's also part of the same gigantic chunk of Basaltic rock that formed Stone Mountain. which is another. Fairly odd. Atlanta attraction and. Yeah like Nole said the plants there seem completely. Almost completely alien you know in does for Laker on the Moon There were some very dodgy murders there in the seventies you can see where at the site of one death someone wrote the Lord's prayer and white paints, and I remember going there many years ago to have seen somebody scrawling it out in black paint and writing, he can't hear you. And I. Don't know who stacks those rocks, but anyway. It's it's a strange place, and it's easy. It's surprisingly easy to get lost there, too. But for people who believe in very good places, a very bad places, very spiritual places We would like to hear what you think if you think that's real, and if you think there's a reason behind whether that reason, scientific or spiritual you know we have you heard stuff before about laylines, geomagnetic theories of we've also heard arguments about. Things like altitude, venting someone's perception or sea level..
"jack unterweger" Discussed on Creepify
"Since opening its doors in one thousand nine hundred twenty seven this is still hotel has been plagued with unfortunate mysterious circumstances that have given it perhaps an unparalleled reputation at least sixteen different murders suicides. Suicides and unexplained paranormal events. Have taken place at this hotel. And it's even served as a temporary home of some of America's America's most notorious serial killers. This Cecile was bill and nineteen twenty. Four by William Banks Hanner. It was supposed to be a destination assignation hotel for international businessman and social elites Hanner spent one million on the seven hundred room. Berek's art style hotel tale complete with a marble lobby stained glass windows palm trees and a staircase but Hanner would come to regret his investment. Just just two years at the hotel open. The world was thrown into the Great Depression and Los Angeles was not immune to the economic collapse soon. Enough enough the area surrounding still hotel will be dubbed as skid row and became home to thousands of homeless people the once beautiful. All hotels soon gained a reputation as a meeting place for junkies. Runaways and criminals worse yet. This is still hotel. Ultimately ultimately earned a reputation for violence and death in one thousand nine hundred thirty four for example army. Sergeant Louis De borden slashed asked his throat with a razor less than four years. Later Roy Thompson of the Marine Corps jump from top this still hotel and was failed on the skylight highlight of a neighboring building. The next few decades only so more violent deaths in September nineteen forty four nineteen year old. The worthy gene per sale awoke in the middle of the night was stomach pains while she was staying at the Cecile with been Levin Thirty eight years of age she went to the bathroom so as not to disturb sleeping Levin into you know complete shock gave birth to a baby boy but she she had no idea she had been pregnant mistakenly thinking her newborn was already dead Brazil through her life baby out the window and onto the roof of the building building next door at her trial she was failed not guilty of murder by reason of insanity and she was admitted to the Hospital for psychiatric treatment in nineteen sixty to sixty five euro. George Johnny was walking by this issue with his hands in his pockets when he was struck to death by a falling woman. Arlene otten twenty. Seven years of age jumped from her ninth floor window. After argument with girl estranged husband Dewey. Her fall killed both her and johnny instantly. Police initially thought the to add commit suicide together but reconsidered when they found. Johnny was still wearing shoes news. If he had jumped his shoes were fallen midflight in light of the suicides mishaps and murders Angelina was promptly dubbed this a seal feel the most haunted hotel and Los Angeles while tragic calamity in suicide have contributed heavily to the hotels body body count. This is still hotel has also served as a temporary home for some of the grisliest murderers in American history in the mid nineteen eighteen eighties. Richard Ramirez murder of thirteen people and better known ask the night. Stalker lived in a room on the top floor of the hotel during in the much of his horrific killing spree as a killing someone. He will throw his buddy close into the Cecil's dumpster and Sauter into the hotel lobby either completely naked or only in his underwear. None of which have raised an eyebrow riots journalists at the time Ramirez was able to stay there for for a mere fourteen dollars per night and with the corpses of the junkies reportedly often found in the alleys near the tail sometimes even in the Hallways Ramirez whereas blood-soaked lifestyle surely raised nary an eyebrow at the ceiling in one thousand nine hundred one Austrian serial. Killer Jack Unterweger thinker who strangled prostitute with their own balls also called the hotel home. Rumor has it that he chose a hotel because of its connection to Ramirez because because the area around this is still hotel was popular with prostitutes. Entiere wegger stock time again and search victims one prostitute. He is believe needed keeled. Vanished right down the street from the hotel while utter wag even claimed to have dated the hotel's receptionist to this day. Nobody knows exactly what happened. But the Lisa Lamb's death we know that the twenty one year old Canadian college student was last seen seen in the Cecile Hotel in Los Angeles on January. Thirty first. Two thousand thirteen famously. Chilling hotel surveillance video that captured the bizarre follow moments before her disappearance. Let alone the other details. That have emerged since have only elicited more questions than answers ever since her body was discovered in the hotel's water tank on February nineteen her tragic demise has remained shrouded in mystery although the coroner's office wrote her death as an accidental drowning. The strange details of lambs case at fuelled rampant. Ed Speculation about what may have really happened. Internet sluice have come up with a mirror of theories about the tragedy involving everything from murder conspiracies to evil spirits but when it comes to disturbing death of a Lisa Lamb. Where does the truth lie on January? Twenty six two thousand thousand thirteen Lisa lamb arrived in la. She had just come by Amtrak train from San Diego and was headed to Santa Cruz as Barbara Solow trip round the west coast. The trip was supposed to be get away from her studies at the University of British Columbia and Vancouver where she was originally from her family. Family had been weary of a traveling by herself but the young student was determined to go at it alone as a compromise lamb made sure to check game with their parents every day of the trip to let them know that she was safe. That's why it's struck. Her parents is unusual and they didn't hear from their daughter on January thirty first the day she was scheduled to check out of her. La Hotel the cecile. The lambs eventually contacted at a loss. ageless police department department. The police searched the premises of the zoo but couldn't find her. Police soon. Released surveillance footage taken from the cameras at the Cecile Hotel on on their website. This is where things to turn into the truly bizarre. The hotel video showed at Lisa Lamb and one of the elevators on the date of disappearance Prince acting rather strangely in the pixellated footage lamb can be seen stepping into the elevator and pushing all the floor buttons uh-huh she steps in and out of the elevator poking her head out sideways toward the hotel's hallways in between she peers out the elevator. Another got a few times before stepping out the elevator entirely the last minutes of the videos show lamb standing by the left side of the door. Moving her hands in Raynham gestures. Nobody else was captured on the video except lamb public reaction to the inexplicable video across all the way to Canada and in China where lamps families originally from the four minute video of lamb strange elevator episode has amassed tens of millions of US news on February nineteenth two weeks after the video was published by authorities maintenance worker State Geog Lopez found at least lambs dead body floating and one of the hotel water tanks Lopez made the discovery at responding to complaints from hotel patrons about low water pressure and a weird taste coming from the tap water according to a statement by the chief of Los Angeles Fire Department the tank in which lambs body was found had had to be drained completely then cut open from the inside out to remove her five foot four frame. Nobody knows how lambs corpse floating lifelessly next to the same close you war in the surveillance video ended up in the hotels water tank. Who else might have been involved? Hotels Death Toll Authority. That lamb was always seen by herself around the hotel premises but at least one person did see lamb soon before before her death at a nearby shop eerily named the last bookstore owner Katie orphan was among the last to see at least a lamb alive. Jeff orphaned remember the college student buying books and music for her family back in Vancouver. It seemed like Lamm had plans to return home plans to give thanks to her family members numbers and reconnect with them. When the autopsy results for Lance case came out it only served to ignite more questions? The toxicology report confirmed that lamb had consumed a number of medical drugs likely to be medication for her bipolar disorder. But there was no indications of alcohol or illegal substances inner body soon after the toxicology report came out amateur sleuths began. Dan Pouring over any information could define in hopes of solving the mystery. By the death of a lease lamb. For example one summer of lambs. Toxicology report was posted online by a Reddit user with an obvious interest in medicine. The breakdown pointed out three key. Observations one lamb took at least these one antidepressant that day to lamb had taken her second antidepressant and mood stabiliser recently but not that day and three lamb had not taken.
The Vienna Woods Killer AKA the Poet of Death - Part 2
"Week we covered jacqueline travers mysterious childhood and how he went from Patty criminal to murderer after receiving a life sentence in prison he was able to transform public perception about him through his memoir but once he secured his release he immediately began killing again today. We'll conclude our exploration into the poet of death. Johann Oh Han Jack wound vaguer while in prison for the murder your of eighteen year old Margaret Shaeffer Jack Vega wrote and published his nineteen eighty-four Memoir Vega Foia or purgatory in it. He largely embellishes relishes a horrendous childhood living with his grandfather due to his excessive hyperbole. The memoir helped Jack cultivate an image that garnered sympathy sympathy from Australia's literary elite and prison reform activists. He became a celebrated author writing short stories plays and and children's stories to go along with his bestselling autobiography he successively trick them all into thinking that prison had rehabilitated him in nineteen ninety ninety. Jack Otter Vicar was released upon his release. He continued his charade as a changed man he became a celebrity giving book readings things in interviews but on September Fifteenth Nineteen Ninety just four months after he regained his freedom. Jack began a whole new murder spree spree. His first victim was thirty year old. Blanca botch Gavaa in Prague this week will cover Jack's continuous murder spree throughout route nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety-one has he moved from Austria to California then we'll cover the international efforts to bring Jack to justice. Thanks in large part are to a retired detective. One of the only ones who saw through Jack's reformed literary Genius Act after Jack Murdered Blunk Bochco vow while interviewing sex workers in Prague he returned to Vienna and began production on a play the piece was entitled Dungeon and served as a sequel to purgatory instead of just staying in Vienna. Jack was taking the play on tour. He was hoping for it to become his first big literary success post-prison. Unfortunately it was neither a critical nor financial success and the lack of appraise angered Jack October twenty six one thousand nine hundred ninety while Jack was in grottes possibly with the tour thirty nine year old sex worker Brune Hilda Hilda Massa disappeared in Austria. Sex Work is legal and highly regulated women must register with the police and are not allowed to begin working until the age of nineteen. The authorities are constantly in the know when it comes to the women working on the streets so when police learned of the disappearance of Brune held Hilda Masa it gave them a great deal of concern as the police scratch their heads over Broom Hilda's disappearance Jack in the tour traveled to Dornbirn a small town four hundred miles west of Vienna near the border of Austria and Switzerland on December fifth one thousand nine hundred ninety according to biographer John Leaks while in Dornbirn Dornbirn Jack called a friend of his and complained about the tepid response dungeon was receiving throughout the tour. The friend recalled that Jack was completely arrate. She tried to calm him down but he hung up on her still in a rage that night jack room the the streets of brigands seven miles north of Dornbirn to cool down. He needed to find a way to blow off some steam. Sadly the victim of Jack's rage would be thirty one year old sex sex worker. Heidi Marie Hammer Heidemarie vanished from her usual spot of the night of December fifth on New Year's Eve a couple of hikers making their way through the woods outside the city discovered Heidemarie Body. She was partially naked exposed from the waist down wrapped around her neck was is her pantyhose which had been used to strangle her to death a few days later on January Fifth Nineteen ninety-one Brune Hilda masses partially naked body body was discovered in the woods by a couple of kids playing there there had been a year and a half gap between the murders of Meriva Horvat and Margaret Shaeffer now while Jack was only waiting a month in between kills it appeared as Jack was evolving Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode please I note Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks Greg last week. We discussed how jack suffered from narcissistic personality disorder however since his release from prison it is possible that Jackson. PD evolved into malignant narcissism malignant narcissism is a blending of NPD with antisocial personality disorder as Rhonda Freeman PhD writes in her article for psychology she today people with this condition have extremely fragile egos and self esteem they can have occurrences of unstable impulsive or aggressive aggressive behavior. It's quite possible that the poor reception of Dungeon hurt Jax Egos so much that drove him to kill while on the road and at the start of the New Year nineteen ninety-one Jackson the process of moving on from the failures of Dungeon by focusing on his next play scream of fear scream of fear was a short play about AIDS Jackass said lost friends to the disease while in prison throughout the eighties during the AIDS crisis he became increasingly worried about the rising death toll and wanted to bring awareness to it scream of fear premiered in Vienna on February February seventeenth nineteen ninety-one it then travelled to seven other cities across Australia while we don't have confirmed proof that scream of fear was met met with the same response as Dungeon. It is quite possible that it did because while the play was on Tour Jack Struck again on March seventh seventh nineteen ninety-one sex worker Alfreda shrimp disappeared from her corner in Grottes Austria about one hundred twenty miles south of Vienna Elfriede has case ace proved slightly different from Jack previous murders a few days after a free to disappeared. Jack called off Rita's parents and taunted them. What made the calls halls even more nefarious was that the families phone number was unlisted in the phone book. It's possible that check forestall free to give them the number just before he strangled her
The Vienna Woods Killer AKA the Poet of Death
"We begin our dive into the notorious. Austrian serial killer Dr Johann Jack Survey Ker known as the Vienna Woods killer and the poet of Death Jack Hunter Vaguer was always a sadistic and violent man but for years he was able to mask dark side by presenting himself as an author of poet and journalist in one thousand nine hundred seventy six. Jack was convicted of murdering Margaret Shaffer and received a light sentence by the Austrian courts. Margaret was Jack Second Victim. However charges were never brought for his first suspected murderer but while he was in prison Jack took the time to educate himself he began to write short stories and poems it culminated in his bestselling memoir purgatory. His memoir caught the attention of Austria's elite and petitions soon wet around begging for Jack's release in one thousand nine hundred fifteen eighteen years into his sentence. Jack Vega was set free and his celebrity continued to flourish but just four months into his freedom. Jack's urged to kill sex workers revealed itself and for the next year Jack Prowl the streets of Vienna Prague and Los Angeles strangling sex workers with their their own underwear and dumping the bodies in the woods he was caught in nineteen ninety-two leaving behind him a trail of twelve bodies though there is speculation that he killed even more women who have never been identified Jack Interviewers life even at its beginning was marred by violence when World War Two ended in nineteen forty-five allied forces from the US Britain France and the USSR remained in Germany and Austria. The allies occupied the two countries as they began the long process to rebuild the occupation lasted for ten years ending in one thousand nine hundred fifty five during those ten years the German and Austrian birth rates spiked the procreation wasn't entirely between German and Austrian citizens instead many young women found themselves pregnant with the children of allied allied soldiers many children born during this time period had no idea who their fathers were in Germany roughly four hundred thousand babies had allied light fathers and in Austria that numbers around Thirty Thousand Jack Vegas would be counted among those thirty thousand in nineteen fifty fifty two ratio owned travailler. A young beautiful country girl took a trip to Trieste Italy while on this trip she met an American soldier hurt named Jack Becker. Unfortunately we know very little about their relationship but we can make some guesses based on the time period the aftermath the war forced many women to engage in survival sex work in order to make ends meet even worse. Many of these women were sexually assaulted by Allied soldiers. Either of these could have happened to Theresa. It's possible that Theresa was forced to engage in sex work to survive but it it is also possible that her time with Jack was simply a passionate fling one that resulted in pregnancy while pregnant to ratio returned to Austria and struggled to find work. She turned to petty crime like fraud and theft as a way to provide for herself in the weeks before giving birth to Jack back to ratio was arrested for fraud however for some unexplained reason Teresa was released. She then travelled to Yudin Burg Austria and on August Sixteenth Nineteen fifty gave birth to Johann. Jack faker named after his American father. Please note that much of what is known about Jack's. It's life comes from his memoir purgatory or the trip to jail report of a guilty man and it must be taken with a grain of salt written while he was imprisoned during the nineteen eighties. Jack's writing was solely intended to garner sympathy from those who read it Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode assode please note Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks Greg as an adult it. Jack Unterweger was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. A couple of aspects of narcissistic personality disorder are exaggerating achievements mints and talents as well as having an exaggerated sense of self importance much of this comes through in the way. Jack describes the harsh upbringing. He faced as a child wild. Jack claims that his mother was a sex worker but nothing has ever been found to confirm. She made her living as one. The general consensus is that she worked as a barmaid and waitress Chris. It is possible that while she worked as a barmaid she engaged in sex work from time to time or that she told Jack that's how he like so many others at that time was conceived saved or it could be pure fabrication it could when Jack was two years old. Theresa was arrested once again for theft and sent to jail. Jack was then sent to live with his grandfather fair demand visor in Carinthia South Austria from this point on Jack claims to have had a terrible childhood. According to Jack Fernand visor was an abusive drunk who forced him to act like a quote court fool a slave. We've educated by grandfather to be a fraud accomplice injects version of events he was barely given enough food to eat or enough clothes to keep warm and according to Jack he had no mother figure around instead a rotation of sex workers in lovers frequented the tiny hut decades later Charlotta. Our Ferdinand stepdaughter would protest that all of Jack's claims about his grandfather were a pack of lies Charlotta had lived with Sheridan ad in the same house a decade and a half earlier in the late thirties. Charlotta never disputed that Fernand had a rough exterior a product product of his country upbringing but she believed the rest of Jack's descriptions. Were fabrications according to Star Lotte her own mother. Maria Springer lived with Jack and Ferdinand for about six years beginning in nineteen fifty two Maria helped raise the boy disputing the claim that only sex workers unfair demands random lovers around as Jack got older. He became something of a burden. He was very stubborn and manipulative. Charlotte claims that he would come up with clever schemes to get whatever he wanted. Jack's attitude soon proved too much Maria Springer and she left in nineteen eighteen fifty eight when Jack was about eight two months later Austrian child services took Jack Away from fair to net and placed him with Fernand sister. Mr The exact reasons why jack was taken away from Fernand are unclear. It's possible that Jack's delinquency and fair demands inability to control troll it were responsible or it's possible that fair. Dan was a little too rough with check now that Maria wasn't around to contain him. Charlotta our does believe that it was during those two months alone with Fair Dinette that the myth of the overly abusive grandfather began in addition to genetics a child's child's environment can play a key role in person forming narcissistic personality disorder or NPD according to the Mayo Clinic in most cases a child who was pampered or received excessive praise could develop the disorder however a consistently negative environment can also lead to NPD. If Jack Really did face the emotional and physical abuse from his grandfather as he professed. It's possible that the