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"jack jack sheppard" Discussed on Pop Culturing
"He does tied. We just recorded the loss podcast. And if you're wondering whether or not you want to listen to it or not It's not as much about the pilot as it is about the entire series. You know this is about pilot one and two but we talk about the entire series so if you plan to watch you may want to wait but if you if you have a history with lost listening and enjoy forty. I don't know one of these days. I'll get that right hopefully soon but not today not today what. Tv Show or movie. Are we talking about today? My Darling we're going to talk about lost but we're not going to talk about the whole season. We're just GONNA talk about the pilot. Part One and part two But it's all considered the same pilot and it was a bit like a movie in itself. It sure was a good movie at that and we have a I guess today. Wonderful guest named Cameron Adams. She happens to be Middle Child. She's a pop culture. Kind of girl. You're would you consider yourself a pop culture kind of girl? Okay why what? What are your qualifications? I always know what's going on in pop culture. You Read Entertainment. Weekly like your mom. Does it usually just get updates of? I don't really read the articles all the time but you read the magazine that we get delivered to our house now. Had nobody reads. No one reads. Do I do. But I'm gen-x. She reads buzzfeed and she reads like just something on twitter or something she just gets. The gist is that right. She did spider right there. Sir Dead or alive flies and spiders John here cam just to little like living on the island that's right. That's that's exactly like that. So we're doing lost one of my favorite. Tv shows of all time starring one of my favourite TV characters of all time tons. In love. With Jack Jack Sheppard except So quickly your favorite character sweetheart. John Locke Cameron Sawyer. Really Wow we have. That's quite the triad. They're very different. Here's the bad boy. I like the dutiful one. And you like the mysterious one. He's in the first episode. He well you don't know. Like how much are we going to give away question at here? I don't want to alienate people from -Sego the opposite. I don't WanNA hamstring ourselves. So if you don't WanNa get spoiled then you might not. WanNa listen to this the first two episodes before you watch. I still think I'm GonNa let some things. Can I talk about? Yeah let's let's just be free flow you guys are like totally having your own inner dialogue with each other trying to. It's a very important thing from this season that has to do. John Locke Yeah and it happens Kinda early Detroit main plot point. We're going to try not to deliberately spoiled but we might. Well put it this way that that's what I was going to say is. It's not like we're going to say. Hey here's a specific spoiler but we're going to talk about the characters in their wholeness. Because I think eventually maybe next week we are going to do. Lost the Finale. The four hundred episodes in between or however many there were. Because we're going to do that. We're going to try and talk about. Maybe the fullness of the characters with the pilot and the finale. Okay so let's go forward with. This is what we're GONNA do. I'M GONNA play about ninety seconds of the trailer of the pilots and it was just kind of help. People remember these beautiful characters or maybe not so beautiful. If you're talking about Ben but Ben is not in the way. He's like snow last name. Elias and say here we go. Here's a pilot must have been about forty thousand feet out. Air Pocket dropped we crash at thousand miles off course. They're looking for in the wrong way stranded on an island coming. This place is different few. It's been six days for all still waiting waiting for to come. But what if they don't? We need to start figuring things out. We need to figure out how we're going to survive here. Anybody say that my main concern is keeping us live. We need to get off this island. Think any of.
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"jack jack sheppard" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"I just realized that the perfect segue would've been going from drive shaft to something you drive. Yes Oh my God well. Maybe we'll get another other chance later on in this very podcast back pocket that Mike because that's good materials on Sunday with all of that said Mike we go forth into the jungle to to discuss the moth once again directed by prolific loss director and producer Jack Bender it is written by Jennifer Johnson is co writer of whatever the case may be with Damon Lindelof Loft which is my second to the bottom ranked episode of lost on those aforementioned Hollywood reporter ranking so we will be there in a few weeks Paul Dini is the Co writer of this episode as well sole credit. Paul Dini is a very prolific writer really remarkable work in comics and several other media as well Batman the animated series. If you're fan of that you got Paul Dini to thank for so much of that this episode originally aired November third two thousand four and of course it centers on Charlie pace who I can tell you a little bit about about from the perspective of the Series Bible that we've been referencing all of her so many times. Let's let's see what's in capital letters this the what what super text awaits us here yes all right so this is from the series. Bible about Charlie pace a caring soul wrapped inside a self deprecating yet wildly amusing wit. Charlie is an addict on a collision course with mandatory re- have oh my God. That's the the only capital one more comparable rehab in there. It should be why is big shoes to emphasize. Thank Gosh it's a big word completely unable to accept the fact that he is has been Charlie continues to live in the shadow of drive shaft more than a band but a surrogate family albeit a dysfunctional one the last year has been particularly hard on him as the band unraveled due to the ridiculous behavior and raging egos of singer and lead guitarist a few charlie found himself constantly trying to defuse but now that dream is over trapped on the island Charlie faces. This is not only the specter of violent drug withdrawal but also the possibility of resuming his role as the consummate side man. Maybe someday becoming a trusted aide to Jack and finding in the castaways the family he once thought he had found in his band. What do you think about all of that Mike. How does that track with what we automatically know of Charlie pace well. The band is a surrogate family. The real show it save literal family in the form of Liam Right which we will get into but I think that obviously the discrepancy here is Charlie trying to play moderator between the feuding lead guitarist and singer. I guess they tried to compare them to like the Derek smalls from from spinal tap instead but now it's that he's the one who is I guess they sort of merged merge. The characters of the singer and Eliteautori into Liam is we will certainly talk about the very ubiquitous other members of drive shaft that sort of come and go over the course of the years so so this concept of family is not necessarily a thing that's inherent to Charlie's character at least initially just because I think the idea of addiction is so front and center with with his character a lot of the time in the three seasons that we see him so I guess if you look at his character from the perspective of wanting to find a family when it's family has screwed him over so many times in the past. It's another other very interesting. Look at him. Yeah John Krause were bringing one of the others into this section has the old Ethan Rom tactic. He asked for taking a N. Ram and we're plugging it here into this part just because I think it's helpful to talk about this. Now is we're looking at Charlie overall and of course again. We're talking about loss from full. Oh spoiler view of the whole show John Krause notes that Charlie's character is largely based on Larry Underwood who is one of the main characters of Stephen King's the stand Mike. I'm I'm not sure if you're a fan of the stand. Do you stand the stand now. I'm more of the fan of the sit and say I want to be mid very mobile so I guess I could use it also with your favorite. Show the strand as well right the strain. I think is what you're what's. The strand stir good gets a full capital letters. The Strand is a man named Victor. WHO's on fear the walking dead and there's also there's also the Strand which is the famous bookstore in New York indeed indeed well. I don't want to spoil the stand for you Mike. If you feel like you're ever going to encounter it and I don't want to spoil the stand for people who are listening to a loss podcast and did not sign off on getting spoiled about a very old Stephen King Book that is going to fuel a new TV show coming to CBS all access at some point in the next year or two I believe but the fact that Charlie is based on on Larry Underwood which is a really prominent character from the stand really does track it with the Ark of Charlie. There's there's a lot that's going on with the Larry Underwood character in that book about a man who is washed up rocker dealing with his own issues who is really forced to kind of rise to the occasion of apocalyptic doc elliptic events and become much more heroic than he ever thought that he was capable love and I think one of the things that's really awesome about the moth specifically. It is how this episode really does. ENCAPSULATE CHARLIE PACE in. I think a really full way when you think about where Charlie is ultimately going going to go that. He's going to sacrifice his life to save everybody at least in his mind. That's what he's doing right that he believes that if he dies then certain visions come true and everybody gets saved. We can debate the merits of whether or not that actually worked out so well at a later point in time. I think we don't want to waste all of our podcast material here but in this episode Charlie is going to. He's going to tell people like I don't have anyone here. You have a you have a wife year. You have a son here I've got nobody. I'm I've got nothing. Let me do this and he's going to go in and risk life and limb to save Jack from the cave and he's going to put himself on on the line knowing full well that he could die in the process and is that not ultimately exactly where we go with Charlie and the end of the story yeah. It's really interesting how that really does come full circle in a manner of speaking that he sort of has always had this self sacrificial nature about him. Maybe it's because he does come from this band environment where he has has this sort of one for all you know mentality even though again sort of becomes undone he he spirals due to the unfortunate natures of said members of that band but I do wonder if you even in season two when Charlie's his lowest. He feels like he's protecting Aaron and protecting Claire. I wonder if there is something on this nature of him wanting to protect protect people and maybe it comes from the fact that he has not been protected himself. You Know Liam Mix all these promises to him about the fact that I'm going to protect you. I'm going to look out for you only to be disproven time and time again somebody that I really noticed this episode is that Charlie Projects Liam on basically everybody on the island the point where he is like literally echoing the things that were either told to him or things he says in his flashbacks to other people this is clearly something he has sat with as we open here in a very like like opening of Charlie Stubbs Guitar. That's all I could think of between like the stripe shirt. You know the addiction it really did feel like Dominic Monaghan slash. It's Charlie if you've ever made it back to the UK. He could've been in like the west end production of rent after ten years in yeah I mean if he was able to come back from Mike the surviving the plane crash and he's able to have like the huge booming career that he wants a big charlie goes on to be quite the worldwide famous person and I think that would be a fun exercise when we get to season four and we start talking about people who make it off the island what their lives could have been like if they were part of the oceanic six spun to you think about what is Charlie. Look like we know from Naomi in the season three penultimate. She says Oh you're the Rockstar. Everyone's bought your album like everyone. driveshaft has had a huge resurgence. Your your your buddy famous that like what would what would it look like if if Charlie had been able to tap back into that world I think would have been really really fun fun. Let's talk about the episode. We're going to do episode summary. As we do here we will fill it with the eight sounds and as Mike mentioned and as you heard at the top of this podcast as we begin with Charleena's playing guitar indicates. It's going poorly. He's tap tap tapping away. He's having the withdrawal issues already because he unlock had their meeting of the minds or he exchanged the heroin in favor of his guitar. Lock comes up to Charlie. Charlie is not doing well. He needs to go for a walk. The fresh air there will do you good yeah. I mean he is also sitting in the case for a while and that's a very literal representation of GonNa make the religious allusions but also the fact that he's probably getting increasingly claustrophobic and exposing himself to a lot of stale air. He also served takes on this very teenager. Moody composition in the first half of the episode is really did did feel like I know that I've basically may John Locke. Everybody's father at this point but this is another thing where you know the the untapped twists of loss is is that locked just sired every exactly like sort of time travel. Paternal problem is the here's Jacob but he is biblical Jakup in terms of just having so many children here but basically locks like Oh. Let's go for a walk but I'm going to stay in like I'm good and he's like no nobody. Let's you know put down the Gameboy in the playboy and and let's take a walk here yeah all right so he's going to go for the walk. We're going to go to the beach where Jack having moved to the caves. He's already back at the beach and he's back doc in his like his makeshift infirmary and he has a that the fugitive picture of kate and he's just staring at it and kate comes in as like hey so you what at that for your you. WanNa you WANNA take a picture of me back to the caves. I take better pictures in that one she's smaller too. If you want for one one for your for your wallet and it's another awkward moment where like she's like you. Are you just like. Are you trying to take a pass at me and texting trust me you want if I wanted to take a pass at you. You'd know it is he's. He's still wearing the lumberjack shirt yes yes. Yes yes as Joe Gar fine coin. We have to go back Jack Jack Sheppard and the lumberjack shirt taking off off man bad luck. Yes those bs in there so we can take that thing off. Oh my God but they do a debate again in case like why are you mad at me. I don't WanNa go to the caves. It's too early to admit defeat and Jackson. I just don't get it. Why don't you come with me and I should note at this point that I am currently recording from Kevin Mateos DEOs apartment in Los Angeles so my wife is not in the next room to yell at Me Bill De. She's looking at the time right now..
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"jack jack sheppard" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"These people related to you by any chance. They're all related to me. Josh that every Takrit to garner yes you are carnival row. Let me tell you about it. It's a series set in the Victorian Fantasy World filled eldest myth logical immigrant creatures whose exotic homelands were invaded by the empires of man they struggle to coexist with humans forbidden to live love or fly with read them Orlando Bloom Plays Ri- kroft illustrate also known as pillow. WHO's a police inspector investigating a string of gruesome murders threatening the uneasy peace of the row car tale of Ian Plays Vignette Stone Moss Fairy refugee who flees her war torn homeland to come to the Burgh where she must contend not only with rampant human prejudice against her kind but with the secrets that have followed her to this new land but even in darkness hope lives as this human detective and ferry rekindled their dangerous affair are despite an increasingly intolerant societies. That's carnival row. It's available for you right now and Amazon prime video. Go check it out and meet all Mike's Family Yeah. That's an easy way. You know is podcasters. I feel like we like to divulge her and personal details. I might get some a bit of that spoiler alert over the course of this podcast but if Lincoln easy way to meet the blooms. I just watched carnival row. It's a nice way to even if they are playing different characters awesome of the blooms sneaks through okay all right. It's a carnival rope. Go check it out. Ask for us. Mike Bloom we go forth into the jungle here on down down. The hatch and we are talking about white rabbit this week. We are talking about white rabbit which is episode five of lost. It is the first episode censoring exclusively in Flashback Form on Jack Jack Sheppard. We have to go jack. Yes I do believe actually from when I was reading that I I believe lost got picked up for like an initial thirteen episodes which I feel like by. Today's standards feels like be cut in half and put into two separate seasons considering the show but after White Rabbit Abbott was really the turning point of the series much like might be the turning point for down the hatch in terms of format where it got picked up for a full season so something about this as they were as they were producing. Yes something about the story just made. ABC's ears perk up a tiny bit. Maybe like the white rabbit to say you know what we got to see. This first season the whole way through hard hard not to after I can't imagine it was walkabout a walkabout and they weren't hooked but I'm glad that they were hooked as of White Rabbit and speaking of hooks. That's the last name of the director of the episode. Kevin Hooks Kevin Hooks is the director of white rabbit he is. He's a prolific prolifically involved in prison break which is I don't think that we're going to be doing a down. The Hatch on prison break ah ball the candidates for what will take over lost down the hatch when we arrive in twenty thirty six at the conclusion of this adventure. I don't think prison break on that shortlist but I just never get really a chance to tell people how much loved prison break. I don't know if you've ever watched it near endured by heart so we're not. GonNa do prison break in the cell into did the cell into the cell. I don't think is going to be happening. White rabbit written by Christian Taylor the only loss writing credit for Christian Tower. The Christian Taylor would would go on to produce a few more episodes of season one as a supervising producer Christian Taylor has also written for six feet under teen Wolf. Luke cage a bunch of other. TV shows as far whereas getting like one writing credit on lost Christian Taylor might have like the best hit record one nine thousand here with White Rabbit episode that features a bat here and they're so good for you Christian Taylor well done yeah absolutely. I'm sad that you know in the myriad jack flashbacks or Flash Jackson. We're going to get in the years to come on. This podcast in the series sat not bringing back considering this really kick starter for not only Jack's flashbacks but I feel like there's a lot of touchstones of Jackson. Tired character nestled over the course of this episode but you know he got the ball rolling and everyone else I had to pick up that big old boulder and keep on rolling it over the next five years okay this originally aired October twentieth two thousand four. We're and we're coming to you almost fifteen years later talking about white rabbit and I know we'll get into all the episode ratings and everything like that at the end of at this podcast and I know that we just finished talking about how walkabout is in the conversation for the single greatest episodes of lost but here we are Mike at White Rabbit and I'm gonNA positive this should be in the conversation for one of the best episodes of losses well. I'm probably going to say that for a lot of different. That's going to become like so like just watered down by the essentially that opinions going to be drowning on its own. It needs to to be saved. How about this. I think I think it's an episode this. Maybe doesn't have like that. Same Wow factor that walkabout has it doesn't have like a huge twist in the way that walkabout does but this is such an emotional episode. It is such a character driven episode for a lot a lot of different people not just for Jack but very prominently for Jack. It's a seminal episode of lost. It is a foundational episode of Lost Moments. Moments from white rabbit are going to be utterly critical to the themes of lost overall. I think there's really no way for me to understate the importance of this episode. I think it's one that will spend a good amount of time chewing on not just in this podcast but I think the ramifications of what happens existentialist Salihi not just literally but what is happening for for the characters in this episode internally is going to matter so so much for where we're going and I always love revisiting white rabbit and it's an episode that I enjoy more and more every single time I revisit it this episode no exception this time through. It's a very important horned episode. I completely agree. Obviously live together die alone as a main component of it. I think that overshadows things like I saw onto the island the island which which I think maybe some people maybe do a bit of a Mandela effect in that they assume that sort of comes later on once locked into the hatch of it all but no it comes very fresh from his encounter in walkabout and that like you said is a very pivotal quote that really defined what locks relation to the island is at least initially and to your point before I really like how much of a surprising on sambol episode this is I think again the memory is a lot of Jack's focus on in leadership which obviously is pivotal but you know we're going to get Charlie Claire Scenes. We're going to get kate and Sawyer doing stuff locks going to have his own little bow and can emerge paths with Jack as well. It really seems like this episode. This is a very solid season one episode. This feels like quintessential season one where there's a really Lee strong focus around one character but there's so much other stuff. That's really you know building out. The tastes of the ensemble that really every seen just has a lot of great stuff to it all right. Let's get into the episode itself. White Rabbit begins as you heard at the top up of this podcast young Jack Sheppard getting his keystroke kicked in as poor. Mark Silverman is really getting it these this pair of bullies this is just go into town. Jack Buddy mark. I know it really Scott. Bark is a modern day Scott Farkas sorry. I guess it's probably like seventies eighties something like that as Jack and poor Mark Silverman are just getting ruined by these guys and even as a kid. Jack's GonNa Jack Right. He's like he's totally. He's told he's told that he should not get up. Stay on the ground Jack Stand up you. Try to defend your friend. It's a fruitless effort and you're just going to get flattened out again but don't tell Jack what he can or can't do Jack's GonNa get up anyway and Scud Farkas Marcus is just gonNA clock him in the face and say Shut Down Jack. I wonder if Jack is someone who obviously served his listen. I listen to a lot of music. I've seen enough NIP Tuck to know the life philosophies essentially tub thumping by trumbull Wamba. How much NIP Tuck have you seen unfortunately a good amount of it really really yeah and I am not. Luckily they instituted. The thing which is the reason I know about the music is because usually would Ryan Murphy with do was whenever they put on the music. That's a cue to be like. Hey If you're squeamish Aka Mike Bloom look away for like two minutes because they're going to basically show surgery being done so I mean I couldn't stay away from all of the insane soapy opie elements that came out of the show eventually despite devices that made me almost repulsed literally to the show on there were certain things that drew me into it so it was a new idea had no idea I guess we can put Nip Tuck on the short list of things to Tuck into when we're done with lost yeah exactly deep cut quite literally yeah deep cuts deep cuts with Joshua learned Mike Bloom coming out in two thousand fifty seven in the present in the present from we come out of you should've stayed down Jack to someone calling for Jack in real time on the island. It's Charlie in Charlie's coming to Jack. This emergency problems have occurred on the beach. Somebody is out there swimming calling for help. It's going to be we know that a woman named Joanna is he's GonNa be out there and say I go out there but I don't swim. I swim and I know we're GONNA get into that because there is some continuity continuity wonky nece potentially with the fact that here's Charlie pace saying I don't swim and yet the entire ending of his storyline will hinge upon the fact that he he's like an elite swimmer. I feel like we'll be able to talk that through. I know we have a lot of questions about that in the feedback but he's got any thoughts right now. Mike feel free well. This is something that we talked about online and we'll focus on the charts up because I think that we can canonical explain it. I don't think that better Charlie's character in let me way in fact it might worsen it spoiler alert but I think he brought up a good point on twitter as as I think it was Jessica Sterling who brought this up to us that yes charlie is the one who sort of highlighted right now with someone who from a characteristic perspective might have shirked his responsibilities impossibly saved a life but also there's an entire beach full of people people who swam out and it really made me think because nobody does anything. They're all just standing there one and that's boone. Let me think I really relief to the survivors of oceanic eight. Fifty fuselage crew is a bunch of gawkers. I mean look back to this idea to sawyer fight pilot partout even later on this episode when Charlie is about to pull a Scott Marcus on boone and throw them into the sand. Nobody's breaking it up or helping everyone just sort of standing around and watching until until Jack has to come in every time and break up the fight or go on so I mean I know that Jack is really going to push away the advances.