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9. Jack Eichel Trade Rumor Fun & Torey Krug Could Be Traded

Poke the Bear

29:36 min | 9 months ago

9. Jack Eichel Trade Rumor Fun & Torey Krug Could Be Traded

"And. Welcome into poke the bear episode nine presented by us of Merit off ski alongside host Khanna Ryan of Boston sports journal Connor how we doing. Got To be honest with you kinda concerned. I'm looking at my calendar now and it's a lot of empty space until maybe December January I really don't know. So scenes ova gotta read Jeff's. What's funny yesterday or Monday night when I was watching the end of game six of the Cup final I'm sitting there and I'm like, wait a second. This is. It. We don't know it's supposed to be December first Tuesday. The NFL announces that the Titans announced that a bunch of people come down with Kobe. It's getting real that. It could be December but. Not Be December, we don't know when this is GonNa come back our hope you enjoyed the return to play the two months hockey I. Hope You. Took it all in and if you remember those days in August when there were like seven games a day. I hope that you guys I know we both enjoyed. I hope all you listeners enjoyed it just as much because first of all, that will never happen again, all those games at once. Tobacco Bash hopefully never again. But. Who knows when this comes back and you drink it amid cafe? Is that not dunks? You know it's Going to quote, a great inspiration line of grills and you have to improvise adapt in overcome and I. got a Doug Jones close last night. So I gotTa McDonald's one instead however, it is also like national coffee I think I will stop by Dunkin donuts later, just for for the boys in voices in pink and Purple Whatever. I think we just lost the Dunkin sponsorship. Buff. This. By the way, this podcast is on video. You can watch on twitter you can watch it watch sports, DOT COM it we have it posted furniture ninety video goes up. Yeah. So you can watch it and if you watch it, you can see connor take a little swig of amid cafe. So more incentive to watch it I'm actually kind of Morgan certainly because the fact that I was looks like I'm working at like frigging target with his Polo on which I'm kind of concerned of is shows target, but I've read shirt onto as to yeah we're both working to target on this one. But so obviously, the big news Monday night was the last hockey game in history leading stars lightning pull it out. Huge win very deserved for that core. Obviously tough to see Anton Khudobin not lift the Stanley Cup or when the conce might like I'd hoped What are your takeaways from that game or the vendors? I mean I. Think you saw immediate aftermath I think as we all expected for any team that won except for the Bruins beginning get a lot of people saying that was asterisk skin. You know take this championship with a grain of salt I mean yes. Like you look at kind of where the lightning were you know. Much when the season was stopped. There were three seven Stamkos. which ended up not really factoring in the long run but you know headed I think was hurt. In that last game that they played special SEC McHugh was completely gas. It was kind of like Frederik Anderson is real with Toronto where they've stopped him so much that he runs out runs out of gas. So. I'm yeah. Definitely help them out quite a bit but. You can look at. That the run that Tampa had this this postseason not impressed with everything they put together when you factor in the fact that. Steven stamkos played under three minutes of ice time. You know you had Brayton point who took that next step into being a superstar stick your head and heading was incredible in the head. All these guys already was. you know one of the more sound teams ever built in terms of teams. They had strength everywhere across across the lineup and the fact that you know that credit for being one of the few teams that really all in the deadline and he saw payoff again, Blake Coleman scores scores at other goals for them in that game sitting that game six oh I mean. To the capita Tampa, because they were one of the best if not the best team all season long in terms maybe town on paper they come back from. That embarrassing exit last year in housing bugs ones doors off so Credit to them. For. Twenty every year you always look at the team wins the COP and it's such a copycat league, right but I think. Sean Tierney does a bunch. Towards like yeah, you know the a copycat league. So all you have to do to be like the lightning is draft well for ten years. As you know, win every trade you make and You know just develop the these guys like like point and who who you know weren't top of their class in the draft years but. Our top two to the top ten folds Marianna Joel now. So In credit to that team for. Building building a wagon of a team and pick up on undervalued free agents. Kevin Shattenkirk in Zach Pagoda. So I mean like when you think of a perfect team. It's really that I mean when they when they put it all together on paper the best team. and. It was Nice Stamkos left the company. Universally liked. Weird kind of thing to see past the cup around without fans they didn't boo sat they didn't. It anyway. I. You know the show would they could make this as realistic as possible considering the fact that there's no one now. But when you when you go gary out there and there's no doing I mean takes you right out of it. Sir, you gotTa do you gotTa Bow? That's why the doesn't Asterik for Asterix for me. There was you know booing when you start to cut which makes feel big to me. Now I think this actually was honestly tougher with the being in the bubble and Having a grind through being away from your family and friends in that. Athlete. ESPN story where they pretty much discussed. AL, felt like a prison. I mean that really could not have been much fun. So great series great return to play the NHL I mean really. They followed through on this whole thing. So Kudos to them the bigger story Monday maybe my favorite of the off season far. Is, the fun rumors with Jack Eichel. So Bob Mackenzie yesterday. Coming out of semi retirement tweet imagine my one everyone. Yeah. What imagine my surprise I started making calls today in her Jack Eichel trade rumors including unverified jeter he may have at some point requested a trade out of Buffalo in the New, York Rangers amongst interested teams this of course, for quite for the restoration, he had a whole thread basically walking back like, Hey, some people in a is agents said this team than Eichel said this but obviously, it stokes the fire on just fun trade rumor and we've discussed this before with Fun Guy Discuss obviously stuck up in purgatory with Buffalo. The Fun though came when ty Anderson tweeted for what it's worth. I was told Bruins were among teams communication. No clue how the possible off prohibits have some fun. So twitter did have some fun. Oh, they did twitter had a great time with this. Go figure there was some amazing amazing trade. Proposals for from the BRUINS perspective to get. Jack Eichel on the. Bruins. Mine is Nick Ritchie John More the ghost of Greg Zanan or the members. And that was mine Might be a little bit overpay. What was your ideal trade be? What do you think? I N on. Know and I think. Plum willing put in. You don't your first round pick. So you can't You v Probably Nick wrenching I on Kuker and. All these all these fucking trades where yet today is like listen you're getting a dude who's twenty three years old? Who's like a franchise cornerstone? Who Even if you look at his numbers which are great, don't paint the whole picture of how Damn Good Jack Eichel is and how much he would extend this cup. Window. For seven plus years he bring him on board. Thank you can't trade for that dude who's also under contracts the next six years you can't train for that. You guys don't want on the team that's not how it works not even Nhl Twenty, we'll let you do that shit like yes. The best part is you said, it people just want to get rid of people. They don't want on their team to get someone who is literally changed the whole team. Yeah. The best part what discourages me most is really credible people. Will depend on how you look at it. Get Credible Boston media folks. Justin Peletier former editor of the Herald said Eichel for two DEBRUSK in the third. Then signed a keep run short term flurry our Hopi as a British twitter Dr. I mean to Debrusk in third isn't getting you. You know a good winger in the top six. Year left on his deal might retire. debrusk is a fringed you know. A fringe top six Ford. Third Ecstatic. I mean it just it is incredible to me. Just the some of the Tree I love twitter trades I think is awesome. It's awesome. It's so much fun. To See, the the twitter trades get thrown around but in the to stuff people I think are overvaluing to in a trade, which is funny because. People the same ones who hate uk-us, right? Well, it's living is a lot of people. For Buffalo I don't get what the appeal of guy who's on the last year of his contract and like your if your guy, you're not gonna be contending for a long time And even anyway is finding a lot of Bruins fans, WANNA. Trade to go but then you thome like, no, that wouldn't be a good piece put in trade like well, he was in a finalist last year like the what he wouldn't trade them. What are you doing like? You can't you can't win both sides of the argument but no I mean listen there's. We've seen every single TRAE proposal out there. The best ones are the ones that. People really put in the effort to try to make a deal that they think is fair where it's like. This is going to hurt but I think it's GonNa be debrusk in Colorado in maybe a second no, that's not enough man like, no, you're the borel and Rask Jimmy Murphy. Proposal. I I mean, there was one where it was like just a random person on twitter, but it was like. Any person in the except Sydney I'm like. All right. Well, they're not gonNA take that lake only like I mean. If you're going to be looking at a realistic realistic you know. TRAE PROPOSAL FOR? Eichel. I mean it's going to have to style with either mcevoy. Boston is what I mean unless buffalo going off than another Rhino Riley which I mean. It's Kevin Adams first year in the first year as GM this is would be franchise altering move that's GonNa set you back. At least five years if not allow more mediate. Eichel E, it's going to haunt you team for for a long long time So I don't think cabinet. I'm just going to be going into any central trade if they were offering him without worrying about getting fleeced because if you don't get a legitimate return whether it's a guy like mcevoy. Plus other assets not going to be it's not a Bob Mackenzie one for one swap you know mcevoy for for Eichel but hall from arson. I mean again, never doubt. De Nhl dropping. Or earn Joel Gm's you know messing things up in trading guys for under what their value is but I think for guy like Eichel. For Buffalo, Fans Sake that sanity that can Adams can kind of appropriately gauge what the value to get him because. Ruins, fans I mean there's always saying you have to give get but. If if you're trading. giving. Up a whole lot I. Mean Eichel is almost mcdavid. I mean you're not is a franchise altering guy. I mean I've I've written here. I mean I. I don't you know my proposal I guess would be mcevoy stood Neaga. DEBRUSK and maybe to I maybe that's maybe that's overpayment you might be sacrificing some future but I mean changes you Michael as you said, extends a window. So this whole idea that you can get away with trading you know I'll Rask debrosse. Prospect. You don't like you know a third round pick it just doesn't. Doesn't work wish it did but it doesn't. I mean you look at a team that? Is You know maybe could relate to go after him as a team like the ranges in sad because you look you look at their assets and you compared to what one the Bruins have ever what you're willing to offer comfortably you know unless you if you don't WanNa. mcevoy it's like New York could just give them Alex Friend, Yay the first overall pick they, WANNA do you know it's like it's like when? CLEVELAND? Traded. Andrew Wiggins the first big to get Kevin Love. I'd like it falls right now. Laugh. In terms of you know an actual legitimate acid to trade that would make sense for. For buffalo getting a new potential franchise play. LUFFING. Yay. WHO's Eighteen Nineteen Post Eichel who's Only. Only five years older but still it seems like the writings on the wall and terms of how that seems building. Again Buffalo. Has the leverage here in terms of fact that unless I just try to Blake. Announces that he wants to traded mix of extinct out of it than you know maybe they have at least one more year to kind of dig themselves out of this but. I mean you even look at you look at Buffalo, team, through I was looking through their. Cap Friendly pays. It's like you paying jeff skinner like nine million dollars a year through twenty, twenty seven you'll get way that teams builds. and you got Eichel's ten million a year you got. Restaurants Darlene who's been great for them he's going to be do for new contract and a couple of years i. that team just seems like it's so you know. Built in such a way that I can't see them maybe we'll have one year they finally breakthrough in the playoffs but. Number Yeah Yeah. She's into November the first two months of the year when buffalo goes like eleven to one of those stretches and maybe they'll punish your ticket to the playoffs but I, just don't see it happening where it's. That teams all sudden gonNA. Turn a page even with you know getting I gotta get rextall who good player but he? He's the final piece that puts you over top Vega a whole bunch of other holes if it was every other problems and I mean to me the Rangers team that's the team. In the first overall pick you got a ton of prospects to give up There's a lot that you could equation. Eichel in New York City I think. The League I think it'd be very happy with it'd be pumped Tab Eichel Pinera and there. Have that young core they're building. Scott the connections with David Quinn obviously. Shadow. Lovely School of institution shelby you. But you're right. I go on the Rangers would be ideal is on the Bruins as a fun pipedream that will probably never happen just because of what it would take to get him I think. He Likes Boston. We know that inside of the doesn't like Boston is just said I think. So A to give up and I think people need to I. But I do love the trade l. of the trade propose it's we're staring at a very, very long off-season. Let everyone does row events maybe let's just you know as long as talking hockey to win if we're you know. In the middle of November and is not going on than than it's GonNa get desperate I'm all many trade rumors we can. We can out there. I also just love like the the fun. The Fun having jokes, trade rumors, you know bring him back old players. Casper's dog ovens like things like that. It's funny. I. Liked the the humor involved in in in Bruins, twitter up. One thing. You can always count on his bet us and Colorado to lizards about that US. Listen, sports bettors. 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Bet Us today and don't forget type in Boston Sports Journal to get up to one hundred and fifty percent bonus on your first deposit. That's bet US dot com that's bet US dot com. So we have a along with the Jackal stuff. Stuff is a little bit more legitimate in the bruins world. That's a little more relevant, but we talk about it all the time is this story crude news. Rear Admiral on Sunday. tweeted look for the Bruins to Trade Tori groups, rights tomorrow as Monday. To team looking for exclusive negotiations before you FA, opens on ten nine Colorado Vegas. DETROIT, among the suitors. Now we're recording this on a Tuesday afternoon so it could happen after. It could happen Wednesday Thursday might never happen a fracture valley. Album saying that am I saying that right? So valley serve Ellie, of tsn, tweeted on a Monday sounds like there deep insignificant significant interest in teams trading groups writes. My belief is last off from bruins two groups camp with six years six and a half million the lots unpacked crude traded the offer that they gave. To, Tori crew. Just, your general thoughts on. The. Situation. obviously, we'll see what the news is when this podcast drops, but not particularly surprising that they'd be looking at. Trading, his negotiation rights could seem like that's a move going to see from a lot of these free agents if. Both team and player kind of read the writing on the wall and realize that they probably can't work out a deal before for free opens up and When they announced when announced, what the you know rumored contract was from I was Kinda surprised in that I, think to crew wants seven and a half eight and a half million on the on the market and I think he deserves it I mean the guy's. Trek argued speaks for himself. He's taking a lot of short term short term deals here for the sake of the team. In the way, the Bruins cat situation was a few years back So He's absolutely deserves to get paid The what surprised me is the fact bruins six years I think from respective. The biggest issue is really the average annual value on. It's more in terms of the term of the contract because I think they're worried about paying gala crew. you know still six million plus for year when he's thirty, four, thirty, five years old and how that's GonNa, you know how? That's GonNa look for this team when they're by that point going onto this next wave of players and if you've got crew who maybe is game slip for that point, I think that's a big concern for him. So I was Kinda surprised that they offered six six years in that rumor deal but It I mean this could go a whole bunch of different ways I mean it would make sense if. The true wants to go on the open market and again even if the deal might be somewhat fair if not a undervalued if crew you know maybe it's just our by the fact that the Bruins Kinda weren't. Humid. All in terms of the contract I mean, he said for years now that he wants to stay in Boston, he mentioned a time and time again that he wants to stay here long term that he wants to get. Talk starting on contract and seems like they really didn't have any productive conversations. So the season ended. So now they give him a g like this that. Could be viewed as a low ball in at this point. He's like all right. You know it's GonNa hit the mocking get that seven million plus per year and I think that's right a likely scenario. You know you wonder just how much the gallic him gets on market because I think you're seeing whether it's the bruins with them handling crew or the blues handling? Portray Angelo. You wonder if these teams are like, all right, go hit the market until you have out there but you know come back to us because I don't know whether the seems thinks that these top freedoms aren't gonNA get as much as they expect because of the fact that I think a lot of teams are running scared with the fact that weren't flat cap era. Now, we don't really know when it's going to get any beto right? We don't know if it's going to be in twenty, twenty, two, twenty, three when we're joined the increase in capsule. Maybe that causes a lot of teams that were maybe a year ago we're GONNA handle. Nine ten million gallic betrayal. Maybe it's eight now and stuff like that. So same with like Taylor Hall I think probably a year ago you probably making ten million now it's maybe eight and a half nine so. Maybe that's the route bruce take but if it seems like. The bridges kind of burned between working on a new contract between crew. The bruins. I could see them kind of just biting the bullet and trying to get something back for crew, which again, you're not going to get a first round pick anything like that bag. Obviously let's that's On. Anything like that but it's a fourth round pick. You know if maybe there's a bunch of teams bidding for his services, maybe a third but you know fourth fifth from pick you'll get something for crew walking That seems like it's fry be the share that most likely will go down to adding. It seems like there's just too much Not Radio Sounds I, but seems like too much burn bridges there to. Work out a new contract. Great Cruise Rights to Buffalo for Jack. Eichel. Oh. We didn't think about that one or David Krejci? WHO's got one year left and has a partial movement clause. So I I'm sure he would love. To go up to late like many he will go up to buffalo especially in the winter I'm sure he would love to go up. There is what they had mentioned that I just WanNa, add it in. Many birds fans love the guys in the Bruins is only few. They don't like you know they love mcevoy they love creed. Most love Rask some don't. Why would you want to send a player you love to Buffalo. Why would that be something you WanNa do especially crew but I will say is we're also forgetting that crew wants to win a cop. The has not won one yet Spend a lot executive wants to win one in Boston. When you look at it, I mean came Neil. Even said it if we honest with the roster I know the Bruins of opened up with the fourth best odds for next season to go back to the. Go to the Cup final. But the avalanche in the Golden in Vegas seemed closer and they're on that list of suitors and I think I would not be surprised to see them make a move for him and say, Hey, we'll give you six and a half seven million. A will do it for eight years and you'RE GONNA, you're with A. Younger set or core that. Is Probably GonNa win more over the next eight years in the bruins might. And that could be attractive through guy like Denver's is Area Vegas people. Love people have been loving outliving in Vegas free agents going there so. I it's funny. I wouldn't be surprised to see him do that either because Detroit the winnings not guaranteed really with the Bruins the money and the term isn't you go to Colorado Vegas maybe they have it, the panthers have also been mentioned. They've mentioned a lot too because I think I forget who reported it but I think saying that they think floor is going to be big players for reviews. Saying it. Yeah and then they send the panthers were also going to be plays for trainer as well. So. I I don't know what what money down in Florida again, all these guys considering how much money they've tied up to terrible contracts but. I mean, there's a lot of teams that could use gala crew seems to have their kind of power play guy in the car obviously who's cheaper and younger but I in Colorado to every single trade rumor free agent thing 'cause. Teams young and before these guys are GonNa get paid got a crapload of of caps face Seville you'RE GONNA head. I'm tired of everything because as a team that seems like. They're on the brink of being legitimate. Cup contents the next couple of years. So the panthers of Keith Yandell yes. But I look at Vegas they're not a team that has I mean if she theodore. But they don't really have a distinguished. Number one defense moves feels like I'm forgetting someone Alec Martinez too but I wouldn't consider him to be a number one, number two, number two so. I mean maybe Diego for crew linked to everybody like the Colorado avalanch are about to be so. I just don't see him staying with the Bruins I will say though I do think it is good that the bruins are getting a little something for even just a little bit. And it's you know some people were questioning this past offseason offseason before this one trade crude now knowing he might not resign. To get something for them, it's like, no, you wanted him to go for a cup for one last time you they had him for that and it didn't work out but better than trading him at the deadline last year or or during the some rumblings they might try to do something so. Obviously Tough to see him go though up AC- probably go I've seen you before we started recording Najib if he stays and we're all just kind of sitting here like Oh damn. We really thought he was gone. Thought that too. So again, I think that only happens if. Again. He hits the market and it's not. You know what he's looking for. Then you run the risk of the bruins moving on and they're making moves than as the cap space still going to be there. So it's it's kind of A. Tough situation because if tour group is the open market and he signs a seven year deal for eight and a half million with the team, I think everyone here you know mostly bummed out because of what crew brought to this team but also I think you'd be happy for him and his family that a guy like him. Again. Put in that work is finally getting paid. I'm getting that big deal that sets them up going forward but. It's kind of a tough Simmons tough break for all these all these guys whether it be the top free agency, her guys who? Maybe a year ago would at least be able to keep on rolling with a one million one and a half million dollar contract. Now they're looking at these. The cat situation price freaking out. So it's it's going to be a really. Puzzling bizarre kind of season in terms of how these approach it yes. That is the best way to put a puzzling bazaar, all of that stuff. But it will be good I think to see Krueg get his money. I just I don't I don't seem comeback At all, which thinks we you know proofs. Great. Great to cover. Great Guy. So tough seeing. But if he goes to Detroit, you'll see. You. Know I was saying to someone the other day I was like I feel a crew didn't get his his farewell Moment Boston. So it'll be nice to see him get one with whatever team he is when it comes to the garden when their fans back in the stands whenever that is whenever that is Goes or anything that you would like tell us there's about Yeah, WE'RE GONNA keep on chugging along with our off off-season coverage. I. Think we're. Next week pretty crazy when you start looking at the draft and free and all that good stuff. So of a bunch of stuff looking at some potential guys, Bruins could be looking at drafting especially in that second round where there's still seem like there's going to be a lot of the talents available. So follow us over bosses sports. Journal subscribe there. You can follow me on twitter at Conor Ryan on ninety three. You all that for Conor Ryan of Boston Sports Journal I'm Evan Mironov. Ski You have a Great Day.

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211: What It Would Take To Get Jack Eichel On The Bruins & Will The NHL Even Return w/ Conor Ryan

Bruins Beat

32:07 min | 1 year ago

211: What It Would Take To Get Jack Eichel On The Bruins & Will The NHL Even Return w/ Conor Ryan

"This is June twenty third, and this is the Bruins beat on ceiling US media. And welcome back to the burs on on on US media. My name is Evan Mironov. He'll be guys are having a great week and today's episode if you can't tell from the headline. Thinking bad line. Why are we focusing on Jack Eichel coming to the Bruins or potentially coming to the Bruins down the road? Why are we focusing on something? When covid nineteen is is raining over everything ending hockey, the bruins might come back. NHL might come back Why are we talking about Jagai Co potentially kind of the Bruins in a few years well, conor Ryan who is on today's show. Boston Sports Journal. wrote something about that on this past weekend and I felt. It was fun to talk about. It's a fun topic. We certainly had a bunch of fun talking about it. and debating we both have a little bit different opinions on Eichel and you know what it would take to get him, and if you would actually be worth it. And we get into that and I think it's different. It's good to have different discussion right now. like I thought it was good to have those three weeks of prospect interviews. It's it's fun to do something different. There isn't a ton of news right now as you are fully aware of. So it's fun to get into different things, and talk about you know one of the NHL best potentially returning home. I went to be used from Chelmsford. So we talked a lot about that and about what it would take to get him and then we also get into. You know the big question right now. After the news this past week that eleven NHL players came down with covid. Is, the NHL leaving I come back. Is, the League a comeback. Is that even going to try Kenneth? Comeback is safe. We get into all that which is probably going to be a reoccurring theme on the. On Out Next week after is you know? Hey, we actually get jobs going to follow through in return so. 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It's like playoffs are coming, but the the hype isn't there yet. Like people are of just so wary of it. Yeah, I mean I think you know you're the pot now where if there's you know a time where things are going to go haywire. Now where again you have a few players out on the ice, but where they're not in a bubble situation, or they're able to still kind go out about. this is going to win. You're running running that greatest risk for outbreaks and positive test which we're going to talk about a little bit later, but you know. You saw all the different positive clean out especially on Friday on that news hit and you know where they get to face three. Even you have to imagine you can be a few more days with you know. NFL announcing more positive tests, so this is kind of. Of, Here, before they really get ramped up as just. Seeing just how feasible it, especially in the areas that are kind of emerging hotspots, you know car across country. So yeah, like how long are people going to care about us? tweeting videos of bruins practice. John Skating around a cone like. Give it some. Point it it. You can do it exactly so which is why we're going to start off, not talking about covert or anything of that sort, so you would agree piece This past Sunday or yesterday wet NHL, notebook, weighing the cost and challenges for Bruins. Potential Jack Eichel brought blockbuster trade so if you don't know. Jack Eichel is not too happy about being in buffalo he's he's voice. thaddeus voice team needs. To, sort of build around him more if he wants to stay now, he's signed there for a really long time for a lot of money. It's ten million a year if f about. Through twenty, twenty, two, twenty, twenty, five, twenty six. I will be I think twenty s six. When that happens, you will be in your thirties. I think right. They will be thirty employees. Not Yeah, that is crazy, so that is a long time away, but come quick, but for Jackal it could be a lot longer. He stays in Buffalo so. Boston went to be you. He's from charlestown correct. No North Chelmsford north chumps. Yeah that Massachusetts, on all blends together from the Commonwealth, so all the all the same place, but he's from here. He went to be you. As you know you covered them you. Were you love you? As everybody knows but so you pitch the the the pitch of Eichel coming to Boston and what that would take, and there's a lot to it and I I want you to just kinda briefly. Give your argument or what would have to go into it even make such a thing happen. Again. Beginnings Pieces put together an. Intriguing you know you look at kind of similar to how the Maple leafs benefited from having a hometown Guy Saimaa again granted provider planning with Toronto Division so only time you have a trade especially, if a guy like Eichel on, if he ever the trademark, which is again, the biggest hurdle right is buffalo, deciding to deal with the deal guy you know they could just. You know they'd rather have a franchise. Kind kind of Wade through their issues, then Kinda, just blow it all up and restart right so that's the biggest problem. from the bruins respective. You know it it. It makes you know they'd love. They'd love to have a situation like that. Because you look at the way. They're built on their bill taking ten. Now you know now in the next. Couple years, but you know if you're looking to bridge that gap you know in the coming years, one version, Ron and crazier either gone or aging out. You know a guy who? Is the perfect replacing the hometown guy who is already. You know fifteen player in the NHL writing again. He's going twenty three years old so. go again. The the biggest hurdle is just you know with buffalo wants a deal on and again it might not end up being. Totally up to them right like I mean if they bought him out again and you look at just, you know. How the franchise built and again they had another massive. You know firing last week, you know. They fired GM PISTON GM I. Think like they had twenty one people on their scouting staff, and they cut it down to seven, so I mean it's just a dumpster fire and I don't know how you know I already frustrated. You know he's been in the League five years now never gone to the the postseason. you know I? Don't know how they're going to ship within a year like there's so many flaws of that team like in goal and then. You know. You know you you. You've just GONNA. Go over seventy million dollars. He was terrible. Like bad drafting, they've casey middle. Stat was GONNA. Be a guy that going to be the. Guy Right out of the gate. Russia and now like you don't really know what you have in him. Right like you trade Rhino Riley for one. Dollar, Saint Louis and I think Saint Louis worked out pretty well with that trade. You know to say the least right, so imagine even having him like your number to center by Michael Girl set right like if you have a pretty. So I mean I don't know what they're gonNA. Do to right the ship next, but again that the owners would call on. Eichel to make his you know. Displeasure pretty pretty evident right in terms of actually requesting and trade big hurdle rate. and then from the bruins effective. You know. It have to be involved with timing in cap management so I it makes sense you know next year in twenty twenty one, F S, you know trade with actually picking up because. The crazy free-agent makes sense that you could swap those guys I'll send your. Contention Window expand. What another ten years right? then. You know you have to look at you. Know taking on the cap again next off season. You have crazy seven point five million coming off. You have rast seven million coming off. You probably can't find crew. If you're thinking that far ahead, write you know as which might be the case anyway. You're really know what's going to happen with that just because of. How much uncertainties said in with this off season, both in terms of you know the tax available was what a guy like crude or any of these guys trying to do you know in terms of can even find long-term dealer. They're GONNA do a one year deal. And then beyond all those moving visas, right, it's about what the actual propaganda being like I. Like say a baseline of what the bruins probably lead with that like is is not enough I. thought because I think there's. One you know Buffalo's GonNa trade a guy like this. He was that young talented. He's under contract, long-term and also have You know the the Rhino Riley trade weighing over them like they're going to ask for King's ransom deservedly right so. You know the very least. You know you need probably to NHL regular so like Paulo depressed I. Think are automatic to put in there. One or two first round picks couple of prospects Jackson who couldn't crack team year and have a really really strong. Stott, he'd be I think an automatic guy. you know swimming like a couple of other prospects again then might not I'm not even be enough like buffalo could be like we want. You Know Charlie mcevoy or something right like I. Mean I go that good that they wanted to ask for something like that so? You know it's a it's a great. You know pipe dream scenario, but you'll get all the moving pieces, plus the fact that there's a couple of other teams that have you know much? Steve, AFAM systems that could really outbid them like. I think that that would scare me Michael. Actually the market look into my Colorado who. You know a one two punch behind McKinnon, and even if they don't kill MCI obviously untouchable this point right, but like you know to have. Byrom they have You know Al Nuke that are fantastic. Freshman year at BC box jumped up. They've got a lot of other pieces. They can include deal like that you'll get. The ranges who of they have the connection with David Quinn who is coach at you? If I'm systems loaded, you know Adam Fox. Who is again I? Think clearly you know using in kind. Kinda take the bleeding and calder but Adam Fox for the past. It'd be like a blue chip. Trade peace you know. Andre Miller the Guy they have that the kids from the Cage L., or or from Russia. That was really promising couple. Cocco like you throw him in. He's not like you know in central Pe-, yet your that team you know claiming us. They might be so. I. It'd be a challenge you know. I it different scenario. If the BRUINS are you know cafes available in Twenty Twenty Six and look what twenty eight twenty nine. Then then you might you know look at a John Davar scenario billon. I think it'd be a challenge. Just not only you know beyond just what the cost would be again. Bruins. Have you know some some young good pieces to include their, but I don't think you know you're giving up. A mcevoy are or any of these other. Guys who are GonNa, be franchise cornerstones Fi team to get a gallon right like year, so so the the the some of the patch of the team up the bruins right so. To me when I look at it like if you're trading for Google, you're sacrificing, you know step and future depth for the start for that one star, and that doesn't always pan out. That doesn't always work. Obviously didn't say Louis, but they didn't really give. There wasn't a lot of tips. The action. Not. The O.. Reilly trade right. Were to quantify that with what boxing would give him for Eichel any terrible trade that it? Also got back like a first round pick. A second round texted Meka back in like Dr. O'Reilly return was where it's like. Okay. We'll. Do you guys the not it might be? Yeah. I think if if you're Eichel, you have to the Nika. You have to give up either one or two I, said Johnny, beaches certainly in there if you only choose the one. And then you mentioned Karl Underbrush. Also I think if you WANNA kind of not give up as many players. But as you said Buffalo's GonNa ask for a franchise cornerstone potentially in return void might be that guy like. And the question is is Matt. Would would would trading mcevoy be worth it to get a guy like Eichel? It depends what you have on the back end when you make that trade I mean if you have crew back there. If you have Carlo you know, maybe you can justify that. Also the other thing is the depth down the middle I mean. Come here. You're crazy would be gone at that point it'd be you know Berge Ron on the you know the last year of his deal. Say Essentially with Eichel and then you'd have coil. Can you afford that? And then once Berge around goes. It'd be Eichel and coil. Nico and there there's not a lot of depth after that, so we'll worry. Worry me is. You know is Eichel alone. Worth it to basically sacrifice my future depth and pretty much my positions everywhere else like. You're giving up stood NICA and Beecher and and back-nine, inner and Depressing Carl I. Mean those are all? Depth pieces and top six pieces so. Does that work to me. I would. I wouldn't want to give up the franchise course only guy like mcevoy. Or have I think what you want in a perfect as you mentioned Colorado in New, York you give up. Give up lottery tickets pretty much like high high quality lottery tickets. You don't give up the the ones you've already won Because you, you want to compete and I. Don't think Boston wants to become. In some ways of buffalo where it's like, Hey, we're gonNA. Treat all the pieces around you to get you. And then when you come here, you have nothing and and obviously Hitzfeld. Posture Knock. Marshawn as well, but I mean I on the Brisby incredible I mean incredible to watch to follow to report on, but I just look at like the trade proposal and I. Look at what you know. What I think might even have to get done for that. You mentioned mcevoy I don't know if it's worth it I. also. Don't you covered him? It'd be you. I mean also with with his ushering in here. You would have a guy who's making more than everybody else by far so now the highest paid players, the guy who just got traded here. How does that affect things? And also you know he's the captain of Buffalo. Would he be an assistant captain here? What is his you know? What's his presence in the Locker Room? Like I mean Buffalo, really been a dumpster fire. There I have not seen a lot of good things about his leadership. Thus far maybe I'm missing it. You covered him beat you. I mean you know him? Fairly well from our coverage perspective you know. Is he going to change the dynamic of the locker rooms? You'RE GONNA change the dynamic of that team. Is that worth it? Right. Yeah I mean again. It's one of those things to. You know you'll get one went to. Var showed up in Toronto obviously the. CAP named Cap'n earlier this year, but that was also a team that was. Not Not. Very talented, but also very young, so got like who steps in like twenty, eight, twenty nine year old, whatever he was makes sense you know. Eichel views come here I, feel like you know both in terms of version on reputation. Let's say you know. Whether Shara, Brady Ron I think he would obviously defer to those guys like you. Take a maybe a or something like that, but it is a lot of different moving dynamics that right like again. It's maybe it's a best case scenario where Eichel. Jumps into a team in buffalo that you know really didn't have the street rudderless right now. I said it'd be a captain of age like again you go into a more structured environment where you got like you know Berge on or charter or cheat three years right? Then you can kind of take over the helm so say required better situation. They had on buffalo because Oh. Yeah I. Mean just look at it with situation. And it's like all right well. When you had what core for head coaches or like you know, maybe like three head coaches to GM and she bene- player with no playoff. Parents who right I mean, he's used most just like blend together for him right where it's just like the same old stuff like again. Maybe the you know right the ship a little bit next year, but they just have so many holes. In that roster, right that like I. Don't know how they're gonna all sudden like you know I'm not expecting like a marital surge from them again. Every year, we'll have like ten game win streak. Where everyone's like this is GonNa be the year and then November out again. Yeah, it happened every single. Yes, so again not like into shit, but still I. You know have a player his. lasko something really don't see too often in the NHL right so we'll see it makes for an interesting idea, but especially on the bruins perspective at. The pieces don't really spend especially. If right now in what way this bruins Ross is really built. I also I think I would love to come to a situation like this. The pressure's off. A little bit doesn't have to be that main guys. You said it's not rudderless. There's already so it's. It's more you can focus on himself and the game and winning and looking up to veterans instead of. Being the veteran and he's. He's twenty three I also think with STEDELIJK. Giving up. A Guy Likes did NICA. His lowest potential I think is a a serviceable second line Centerman Nhl you know like his I would say is his bottom potential would be a guy like kyle tourist or someone like that. I mean if that's your really low potential. You! Disguise seems to be the limit with this kid, and also he probably will be cheaper down the line. Potentially, a guy like so maybe he's someone. You don't really WanNa, give up because of the value can get there and sort of how he's been indoctrinated into the system, but it's an interesting argument, I think it's. It's fun we to do these things now. And on the bruins would be very fun I'd love to see what it would take on like NHL. Twenty Eichel. You later would. Put. Them for the call, and there's like one of the NATO twenty computer. Fan which you chase. Oh yeah, but yeah, well, that's. You'd never know. Yeah doesn't really care about twenty, but that's hold on the topic for another day. He even when Angel, twenty-one comes out. But so. We talked about I. Call and that let's get to sort of current events which I wish was coming to the Bruins. That would be very fun if that was a current event. definitely newsworthy, but so this past week resulted in a lot of stuff on covert eleven new players tests positive. Around the league, the lightning completely shutdown. How `bout that Stupid Video Alex Lauren did that is now just a total meam. Incredible. Incredible Letter! Curb your enthusiasm the with the fun behind them man. Yeah, isn't it down the canal right? Yeah, I mean you have to, and they let you know they like they spray the Bruins. They I think over the maple, leafs or something and. Knock over covert, but so no of three players in two staff numbers I believe who have it. These are also states that have pretty much almost completely opened up. You would agree tweet. It was just like cut off Florida from the United States. Yeah shocking. It's going to predict that Floro. He's GonNa completely dropped the ball on. Sorry, Yeah Florida just absolutely. Botched this completely and again just say everything in life. The answer is always the middle. You know you don't have to be completely closed, but don't completely open yet. Stay right in that middle area, which we seem to be more towards the closed and other places seemed to be a little more towards the middle, but and then also other places around the league, having their issues, which makes me think. Is the NHL going action. Come Back I. Get asked this all the time. Is the league actually going to come back this summer? With all the happening people fearing second wave police's opening up and it's you know trial and trial and error. Is, the League, GonNa come back with this. I, mean you know? From the NFL's perspective. It seems they were expecting. You know what we're seeing right now. Where again these are all voluntary workouts and you have in play. His traveled to come back here. You're still you know quake go. On the ice, but they're still allowed to go home, and you know. Go to you know, walk, you know, be out and about right. It's not like you know the create. They say for where they're pretty much going to be in a bubble situation I'd have announced. The plan what it's going to be. We're going to be something I've comprehensive kind of what the NBA has planned for for Florida in the next couple of weeks, but This is kind of. Going to be the biggest challenge I. think is just seeing how it is, and we have more Queens, especially in hot areas Shutdown! Can't then you run into the issue of like all right well? We want everyone to have. This. These training facilities are shut down. You know what you know. How does it benefit you these teams that just because we're in a state where they you know can do anything to embrace it. It's right like you're gonNA penalize again lightning. You could blame them for the for the video they did, but like you know. The Florida Panthers were weren't doing anything like that, but they're just in a state where that buyers running I like their fault that. You know they weren't like. The state and local government weren't taking A. Necessary precaution so I think. That take a long look at this. Especially, with the fact that the NHL PA still has to approve you know they improve the official plans that you approve going into each of these new phases right so yeah I mean you know. The NFL was not you know cannot name these hubs cities right away, right? Let's let's just say that they give I united to bike biggest. Like. The Phoenix Glendale area, right or Scotch, though or you know the players, you can go the whole stretch, right? You don't know back in you. Know Becca may look at it now. Go crap like the NBA kind of gone committed to Disney in Orlando, but like you look at the cases like Gosh. You know what? Is this going to get. Get a lot worse for gets better right so and maybe the NHL reverses course and like all right. We don't have any faith in what's going on down here. Let's just move our stuff to Edmonton. and Dan Couva and just have them isolated up there right like. so you know there's obviously wanNA moving pieces with. It seems like the news for. The NHL, but every sport everything in general right to Kinda change they day by day so This is gonNA. Be The cover stretch right now because you know what Friday's news with. the eleven players Hudson positive with pampered civility, closing up, see Tronto. Some I think that Matthews Austin Matthews tested positive when he was down in Arizona You'RE GONNA get more and more of those new stories. Come Out, so it's just about. Making sure that you know these your syllabi stay open the now. They're taking their proper protocol to make sure that. You know these facilities aren't getting contaminated Moore. Players getting sick because again. If you're able to eventually get buffets for. Your and your the risk of the season shutting down drops quite a bit. You know the players might not be happy, but you have everyone in a bubble, right? It's just getting started here in face to face three. Just working out those logistics There's GonNa. Be the biggest challenge because again. Then telling national, PA been pretty good with working through these things now again I'll be, or you know you had a little bit of an issue with the NBA a few weeks ago where they were concerned about public attrition, but These players will need to approve whatever they're going to say from phase, three and phase four and. Considering the amount of cases you're sitting now. You wonder if they are a lot more strict with what these players can do and phase three right? Because again. It's training camp all these players together. You know there's still going home afterwards right, so you know we'll see how they adjust to that but you know. My son's. They're still kind of you know. You know going forward with it, but you know if you have four or five teams after shut. Down you have to take a long look at it, because again, all takes just went out breaking all. Your position on it, so yeah I mean. I had to move everything to Canada moves the hub cities to Canada Vancouver Edmonton Toronto whatever it might be I also think if the League is going to pursue is going to continue. They're going to have to be okay with. Seven players getting it. They're just GONNA. They're GONNA have to. If you WANNA have a season, guys are GonNa get it especially in that phase three when the during the training camps, guys are going to come down with it. If you really want to come back, you're going to have to say listen. We gotTA keep moving. You know isolate. Those guys have them quarantine, but we gotta continue this. We're not gonNA. Have a incomplete season if they really have to. If they really want to come back, they're going to just have to push the. They're going to have to say you know what screw it. We're GONNA, keep playing. And it sucks. I mean imagine the magic grass comes out with code. You know imagine. Imagine you Kucherov comes down with Kobe. Imagine you know just. Guys, who were? Key players to their teams. Connor mcdavid comes down with Kobe ninety like of strikes that will be there to pick up the pieces, but. You, know it to me it. It just It's going to affect teams and it would be a real shame if you end up. Having the Stanley Cup be like Florida and Chicago. because. Other teams guys with Kovin there. Somehow we're not hit bite or something. So it's another aspect of things they're going to have to overcome. And I mean. That's sort of the question. You know if the League is really serious stuff about just going to have to keep pushing through and I and selfishly hope they do. And that's again. That's extremely selfish, says because I WANNA see hockey I want to have these things happen, but if it is unsafe if guys are really getting it everywhere. And you can't. You can't. which is unfortunate for everybody? It is weird to think that like this year could just be incomplete like nine hundred twenty season just ended in March. And that's like runs were first place presidents trophy? And nothing came of it. which is an odd. Thing to think of and then like. I I. Don't know what they'll be like next year. I don't know if there'll be a season next. This. It's crazy that all this happened. It all happened so quickly. But so yeah, we cover Jack Eichel. We covered the NHL maybe mayor, not returning and so I. Think we covered everything her for you go. I will let you plug Bostonsportsjournal. Even though we already Kinda did with Jack Eichel piece because it was very, but I'll let you Yeah, again you know not a lot of whole news going on, but you know over a shea, we're still you know chugging along putting together a whole bunch of content on a daily basis so. A few things up this week and work on a few different things, ranking trading and kind of looking back at how this whole Cup window is kind of extended to beyond what everyone thought it was gonna be the end once you get like twenty four in twenty fifteen, so was a few look back to deeper dive and stuff like that and enough stuff to keep people entertained until we get more concrete news which. I really hope would probably be within the next couple of days where they are. You know going to some concrete details on stuff like hub cities and stuff so. It's going to be on the horizon, but you know until then we're gonNA. Have a whole bunch of stuff over it. So inscribed their. 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Jack Eichel Trade Proposals & What's Next for Bruins on Defense? | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

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Jack Eichel Trade Proposals & What's Next for Bruins on Defense? | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"Hey, welcome in to poke the bear episode thirty-two. He believed a Connor thirty two episodes. I move marinoff ski alongside Connor right about sports drone Connor how we doing and then I'm doing very great. How are you doing? I'm doing great as well. I got a haircut for people who can see on YouTube never hurts tough to get in these in these pandemic times, but I guess haircutting. I was talking to the barber and in fact saying a business was still great and I'm like, well, it's true. You can't like replace a haircut. I mean what you just not going to get your haircut which some people have been doing but it like I did that as being in the pandemic I you know, look at early videos of me from like April and I got my haircut in like two months and I just had a big brick entry on my head, which was not which is not a great look also move my room around for those watch. To begin different background total moving everything around so everything is everything is changing. Yeah. I'm still stuck in Tahoe. But you know, there's worse places to be stranded right now. There's no flights out of town back to life. That's yeah, that's really tough. So the only person who had a worse in Tahoe than you and the Flyers was Jeremy loops on like the little Segway chairman Shack close on it was announced on Wednesday to have a fractured left wrist. I believe correct or it was it are left left our hand rather. Yep, Sanford left hand and he is out there. Oh, they will re-evaluate him in four weeks. So minimum. He's out a month not great for the Bruins defense. What do they do in his absence? Yeah, I think with Louis on out the next guy up is going to be your whole back in dine-in which obviously you look across the the lineup. It's not great right now on defense I mean for for tonight's game. The Islanders you're going to probably have Jacobs of roll back. But other than that macros, it's not going to be ready. Even though he's getting closer which is at least one kind of somewhat of a positive Kevin Miller who didn't go off off of what we thought was just you know load management arrest don't really know when he's coming back right now. It seems like the knees bothering him which I think we all expected if it's still not good just from a pure Optics of you know, how long I mean bothering him after about a week off. So for right now, you're expecting John Malone, Clifton flop back in but you still need a guy to replace lausanne in that top and roll and again, it's not great with the amount of bodies are missing right now. And you know, we spoke about it on Bruins beat that a guy like Matisse at home would be a good fit. But at least the immediate right now, you're at loose getting a guy in the back nine and who you're able to at least get an extended look at right now, right? I mean, he's a guy who was a first round pick in 2017. I think was probably you know one be maybe one day. It's one point West Palm. Go as your top prospects, so there's still a lot to like about him as a player, you know, even though he might maybe has a price tag needs down the right where everybody kind of plateaued a little bit down in Providence. I think this is going to be your first extended look to see how we can do open NHL. Maybe he responds. Well, maybe it's like Isabel who kind of was stuck down in Providence gets a spot up here. And, is that a role? So I think you saw on Sunday. He held his own. I mean he played over 23 minutes of ice-time looked pretty good in that spot. So I think that's the plan for right now to see what Beckham has. What do you can give you put them with Negley helps out quite a bit cuz McEvoy can I think carry most guys as his D partner? So let's see if we plan right now and worst case scenario. You switched him guys around best case you have a guy who could potentially be a a top poor fit if he really runs with the opportunity given to him this year. Yeah. This is recognizance chance like this is this is the chance the back nine and has dead. Been looking for in the Bruins have been looking for in him since they drafted him pretty much like this is a big thing and but again like we talked about this on Bruins be back in 9 and could turn into a Bobby or over the next thousand many games, you know month or so it still does not defeat the fact that you need to acquire another top-four left shot defenseman. You need it especially just considering, you know, Kevin Miller's dealing with some injuries right now. I'm at girls Excel with injuries all season. So Borel Lowe's not like I mean, I don't want to name the defenseman who have been Untouched by injury cuz I don't want to jinx them Birds fans get on before. But yeah, this is this is a condensed chance and I thought he looked good in Tahoe. I'm not going to sit here and say I thought he looked amazing. Like I thought he looked you know good first game first came back, you know good nothing that makes me go. Oh he's going to he's going to kill this opportunity going to do amazing. But again, that's sort of birth. Needs to be seen so to speak but you know again, it's this thanks for Lowe's on though because lausanne was a guy who this was his opportunity. And by the way doesn't mean it's over. This is opportunities, not over cuz he certainly met most of it. Well while he was in it before he before he hurt his arm, but it's tough. I think for him to sort of see a big opportunity like this be postponed another month, especially if they go out and acquire another life shot defense because maybe they'd sub close on down to the third pairing or maybe they'd sub grows like down in the third parent but nonetheless tougher Lowe's on top of the ribbons on that break. 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Maybe this is finally the years but Buffalo continues to lose which I don't know why this is a surprise to him at least like just cuz my God what Taylor home exactly like to be I don't know maybe I guess when you're in that moment, you know when you're on that team you think wow, we just got so much better. But in reality you just got a better scoring Winger on one line. Like it's this isn't the NBA where like you acquire a player of Taylor Hall is Cal log. The NBA and it's like why we are a much better team in hockey. It is four lines and you obviously one score is not going to transform whole team. So Jack eichel is reportedly not super pleased with the losing an awful. Oh, I don't blame him that miss that situation looks miserable. So every time this happens the Jack eichel to the Boston Bruins rumors always like to get straightened up baby back wheels turning on that and I I am so here so here for the even though this like will never happen. There's a less than 2% chance. I'll give it a little chance. But but less than 2% chance this ever could actually happen equal to the Bruins, but you you astutely tweeted out Wednesday morning. Give me your best trade package for Jack eichel Chicago which prompted people to give off their best trade packages. Ron Jackson office a lot of compelling offers. I mean hitmon law, this is my favorite go figure Boston gets or Buffalo gets the Evan marinoff skier F boss gets Jacqueline Connor McDavid, and I said, I think the Prof gets more than just McDavid Michael. I think you might get puter off in there too. Well, here's the thing too. I mean Buffalo is in such disorder and disarray that you need not stabilizing presence there someone that's going to bring Authority and stop the shenanigans. So who better than that having that or not graph to correct? What's been going wrong in Buffalo for decades now, you gotta lay down long. That's what he's going to do. Right right down right now. It's a it's a character thing more than talent and that's the team needs so I continually yeah exactly they need a leader. But so that was a great one quart low lands a little does. He know that Evan and Connor are package deal. So that's a no deal in my books. That's fair. That's that's that's a good point. That's always going to send me the Buffalo wage. Thanks, Buffalo Winnipeg or Edmonton. I'm out on let's see Nick Ritchie Glamour Shots. Boston trades Kevin Miller Chris Wagner John Moore three for Jeremy. Lausanne. Brandon, Carlo. Buffalo trades Jacqueline calling Miller Boston trades, Jack, eichel Buffalo trades three first-round picks. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't for teachers out there, which I I don't think it's going to work out very well. But I appreciate the creativity more than anything. Yeah, I mean again, that's just that's that's playing chess when the the opposed the office play checkers Scott McLaughlin. Yeah, first time call. What about John more Milla? That's senyshyn kid or Cindy Sheehan kid, which I used to college so you should do so I can't really make them and a second which I think is too much Prudence can't be given up since we have to be. You know, we're I understand we're in a win-now mode, but you can't mortgage the future right there for no gain. Who you know he's good. But what are you going to do? I mean, I mean like I'm going through these two like I saw one. This is a great one you got here we go. Cool oil glauco and a phone number to twenty twenty-two and he said I quote would be your third line center with the brisket Buick difference can be hard to follow the third line buddy. Yeah, welcome. Yeah. Enjoy. I mean, I'm sure he'd be very happy to be back home, but he's not you don't get Jack I go to be a third-line Centre. It's tough cuz in these scenarios because so many people are kidding. But then so many people are dead serious. That's that's not necessary that like one person said debrusk Sydney could Cruise like feature a first-round pick up and again, like this goes back to the The Sidney Crosby stuff cuz I think you're right Google to get eichel you'd probably have to give up more than you would for Crosby just given their age and the franchise situation. Yeah, and it goes back to the whole thing up to the Bruins actually. Like did you have an offer for them? That doesn't include McEvoy or pasta Rock know you don't so you can't get those guys. So I need to just just kill the vibe. But like you don't have anyone for for these deals know I mean, like there's even one that someone said the brass cracking on and study your Grand Prix first and everyone's like holy sheets too much. It's like no you have to like you have to one realize that your prospect pool is not as deep. And even if this guy's should maybe can be functional solid NHL players you need to change wage with legitimate star talent to get a STAR Center. Yeah, twenty-four years old on the town like this isn't isn't rocket science. And also I think people are forgetting When you mention this on a maybe they're just so focused on wage. Whatever trade package the Bruins can offer you also have 30 other teams or 30 30 of the team. So that would also love to acquire Jack eichel who a lot of them probably get a lot more assets than you. So I mean, I don't know if you're Buffalo and the Bruins offered you the Brusque and vac and sanika and two first which isn't enough below to say that's the Baseline offer. Are you intrigued by that or you intrigued by Anaheim giving you to First cigarettes another Prospect and also taking Jeff Skinner's salary which yes wage. Like what would you take their like you have to go for the best talent available? And unless it's McEvoy or pasta or not. I don't know what offer you can give Buffalo they'll get them, right that's not you know a situation where you're completely mortgaging the future where you giving up, you know, the Ricky Williams trade or something like that right where it's like just so many pics that that it's crazy. But yep. I am going to Anaheim would be going from one bad situation to the next except he just being warmer weather. So right yeah, so I mean I can see that or I even L A or you know the ranges which makes sense. I don't know when he's going to be there by the time like they might you know, try to trade for him. So, I mean, we'll see it's not going to be the the only the only way it would be the Bruins realistically would be if he stays in Buffalo long enough that is no trade clause kicks in and it's just like I want to go to Boston does the only thing that would it's a that would give him some leverage which even then like if you ever have locked in a you know, you're still giving up a whole bunch even if you're doing only option there, but also I I see a lot of people I'm just reading through this a lot of people are listing krejci as a possible person to go in the trash like to they want I hate to say I hate to say it but like there's not a lot of value there like I don't mean to be like a dick but you know expiring contract, you know, middle-aged. Probably doesn't want to play anywhere else in Boston. Like you said him to Buffalo New York. What value is that for for anybody? You only you'd only trade them to make the money off somewhat match up a little bit more. But even then like the Buffalo wouldn't be thrilled about that. You have to give them a certain amount of young talent to account for just swapping centers. Like Buffalo's arguing David crane going on a run after they trade Jack eichel so or if it did that be most bizarre in the world. But yes also we have you know, Carlo friends are going to first. I don't know who that gets you but I'm not able, you know, a third of what the actual package would be. But you know, I guess that gets that gets that'll get you like like maybe that might get you like a step above Kyle palm area, but but that is not Jack eichel again. Like I I goal is is absurd like this. This is a one generation. I don't think people are being cognizant of how long Jack eichel is like that dude. If he was on a good team would be 90 plus points every single season you had a comment in French. I'm like, he's all biases aside here. He's a threat be a really good player. He he's well worth whatever you'd be trading to get him far enough to the bridge and give up like 10 first-round picks. Boston vs. Jack. Eichel Buffalo receives Kevin Miller Tony, moss felger & Dale Arnold. That's a fair. That's the most trade. I think I've seen I think I don't I don't know the radio situation over in Buffalo, but if they need to inject some new talent and you know, I could see it, you know working out for both ways Bruins get a center and follow the markets Diversified a little bit FMA fell Gomez and Arnold that could be that could be the new show streaking the Buffalo Airwaves but ya know and I also think people are awful over rating Jack's Tanika when it comes to trade. So I think like the the reason he's you know hyped up as much as he is here is cuz he's the best they have Prospect lights off. This is not mean he's this, you know, incredible Elite going to take over Patrice Bergeron. Type Talent. We said this be the year like the best case scenario this year was he comes in and is a serviceable, you know third line wage or second line right winger, and he really wasn't that much for the time. He was okay, but he wasn't it wasn't enough to really stay now. He's not in Providence again kind of work on a stuff but I don't think the trade value there is like like I don't think Buffalo here's technique as the centerpiece of a deal coming back for Ike Olympics. Oh, yes. Yes, like that doesn't work. It just doesn't it doesn't fly. So you're right again, like the Bruins the second straight week we're saying they don't have enough to get these like elite players unless you want to part with McEvoy or posture wage, which is stupid. You wouldn't do that. So I don't I honestly I don't and it's funny like it. Is there anyone you would trade pastrnak for I mean, I guess if it was off, 141 with like draisaitl or McDavid maybe you gave yeah, maybe you could then or like MacKinnon, it's Colorado's let's do a one-for-one like okay fine, but outside of that. I don't think that there's anyone outside of McKinnon McDavid and dry cycle that you would you would do that for. I mean and teased by that said just cuz he's a senate but even then yeah, but that's it took me is it cuz you know, maybe MacArthur if you want to upgrade on D or Quinn Hughes, but even then like that's that's still a big stretch. So yeah. Those are the really the only guys I was thinking that the other day like who would you actually trade posture at 4? And then the other answer obviously is Loui Eriksson, you would trade of course, it's quite a few radio directions on there. So yeah, that was tough McGuire those know pets require. I also shut out a ninja Hanover at the herald. Yes. I meant to mention this. I meant to mention this the Boston Celtics the Boston supposed to be traded to Buffalo, which I'm sure they would also be thrown. So the Buffalo so it's funny. It's funny how most of these trades And with the Bruins in Boston being very happy in Buffalo being absolutely miserable. Like in other words are so you know, but like Sabres fans don't think it'd be happy with the brush back in nine and the Borel job more like Jayson Tatum's Jason Jason playing basketball. Fantastic. I don't know how Jason Statham is playing hockey. But Taco Fall on skates. They say oh, this is NATO Chara wage. That's pretty much it works itself out. Well, so yeah. Those are the equal trade scenarios. I don't I don't think I can even come up with one that would be like enough cuz again, it would be cuz now people walk by say 1 people are going to like quote and say Evan wants to trade. So let's trade McEvoy to First and like but it would be like a be like McAvoy two firsts like I mean if you watch a void then like that's a big piece of it, right like you do that, then you could include a first and maybe another Prosper to you would be a huge Hall if it's not completing the way cuz macro is going to 1 a.m. More issue within the next five years like yeah that trade is is enough that like you could Buffalo be like, oh shit. Yeah, like all right. We'll talk to you but like it would never happen, right? They're not going to give up Mac of a wage for I go but that's the only way you get the a package where it wouldn't be, you know a good Kevin Garnett tree where it's like seven bodies going back right like that. Yes, if you ever not including one of those two guys posture McEvoy, that's what it's going to be and even then I don't think that's enough when you've hey. West Seneca offer a lot more Wayne primeau Brad Stuart, Marco Sturm was enough to get Joe Thornton. So, you know what may be that would be like that would be what by today's standards cuz that would be a similar thing to the icons stuff. That would be like what cuz I'm not an expert on how great Primo Stewart and sternum were back in two thousand. They were they weren't as good as board and that's for frigging sure. That'd be like what like Corelli It's done was a good play but none of them matched what? So Thornton was I mean like even there's been plenty of times where I think they've had big trades go down in the NHL where I like seem to return and I was like, that's it. Like I look at like when Max on got traded I was like if the Bruins wanted this guy, I'd be like to First and like a, you know, a debrusk or you know back and I endorse it Nico or one of those guys with along with it and then like an auto against that trade-off and it's like, you know that band strum and a few other guys that I'm like, that's it. I don't know bad storms like even playing with auto right now and if he's not that's not good news for them cuz they suck sucks. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure I'm missing one of the other guys in that deal but I don't think it's anyone who's you know, seriously impacting Auto or right now, I I'm forgetting but I don't think there is and it's like the O'Reilly trade remember that that was I mean, that's the thing too. That's also a white buffalo is going to be super cautious as they got they gave the st. Louis Blues of Stanley Cup off of just being incompetent so dead. That's why brunch Buffalo born they hate st. Louis. Really? I mean, yeah, so right but so I will just say Mike Stone. It was off Oscar Lindberg Erik brannstrom and a second-round pick. Oh, I forgot about how like little that package was. Yeah, and I mean Grand Canyon going to be a grandpa was a a pending UFA which impacted a lot which like it goes on the contract another five years. So that's another reason why the price is so high. So but also I mean Mike Stone, I mean dude, one of the best forwards in the game like I mean when that tray got an ounce I was like the broads couldn't hit an offer like that. Like I granted there also in the Atlantic at the time, but I'm still have to think I mean just how good of a two-way forwards stone is fitting either with Bergeron or with krejci would have been on the cabin. Yeah, you win the cup you win the cup and maybe even be a 2018 cuz that was was that stone deal in 19 or 18 19 leading up to the okay. So, okay. So you you'd beat Saint Louis and you might even get past month cuz he probably re-ups cuz I'd probably be a condition of the deal and then you maybe beat Tampa this past year, but that's all hypothetical. So it's like a trade scenarios, but they're always fun. This might be the last time we do on this is not last time we'll do them will do trade scenarios until forever. They will always happen next week I go is going to do like a zoom call. He's going to have a Red Sox hat on people going to lose their minds was all over again the guys name. It comes with the Red Sox fan you were abused sweatshirt you want to connect to place but so that cycle so let's get into some other stuff before before we sign off the ratings the ratings for Sunday's Tahoe game were absurd first. NBCSN regular-season game to go over a million viewers. So the most viewed ever most streamed ever. Why why why was this the most streamed the most watch? It's a Sunday night game that got rescheduled a bunch. Why was this the most watched game and NBCSN history month or I mean, I think you got two big markets in Boston and Philly, which I think goes a long way. I mean who knows what those I know I think people across many sports. Well, we're kind of concerned back when they came being ship games for you know, the World Series and the NBA Finals the Stanley Cup plan on all the numbers weren't that great people were like are people just sick of sports during this time, but I also think a lot of it has to do with you know wage. What markets are involved, I don't know if Tampa Bay and Dallas is a barnburner in terms of people tuning in for it, right, but you got Boston and Philly that goes a long way and towels. Yeah, so I think I'm not into it. I think the fact that it's a good change of pace. I mean it's even even if it was like a Winter Classic in like a stadium those empty like even that wouldn't have the same appeal like this was something that was completely different obviously had hiccups. If you want to call that it's probably a stronger words, you can say other than hiccups in terms of how it went especially the start of it, but I think I mean for as much as you know, at first. Where there's just a glass on the ice and people are there's this isn't that great when you get to the second. You have the sun setting and you know, the the scenery and all that. I mean it made for I think a pretty compelling broadcast. So I think give you the NHL it's funny. They they get the the event wrapped up and guide button and said, you know, we'd like to do, you know outdoor games of course, but with fans, you know, we don't wage. do one-off things like this or you'd rather do one off things like this and say I don't know man, like I would say well with us fans did like you don't want to go up to like, you know, Lake Louise up and up and down and have I don't know like I mean a Calgary but just to like it'd be funny if they just sit Montreal and turn all the way up to dance National Park purple, like two big teams like that up and you know off the Canadian Rockies are you know a spot in you know, Michigan or Minnesota on one of those Lakes up there like that won't do well like home so I think This one was kind of a perfect storm of why it worked out. Well, and I think obviously a lot of it does have to do with the bronze. I think the Boston Market was crazy this point six nine, you know for those who don't know that's six out of a hundred thousand households at once watching the game, which is 6.69 for Bruins game is is ridiculous. Yes. So I mean I think at all work together to make a compelling product. So if I was the NHL, what you doing it which like you can still do a when a classic and also do like a game like this right like as it's not like your resources going to be spread out so thin once things get back up and running hopefully by next year so I can see them doing it and bring it in more spots. I wouldn't be surprised to go up to Canada and places probably little bit safer in terms of not worrying about the the weather screwing it up so often but I mean, yeah as much as it was kind of a a shitshow for most of the week, like I think the Angelus took a lot out of it, right? You got a lot of people talking about it you had you know, you had your one of your choice Stars and constant care of hat trick you had them, you know Buzz it on the internet with how they were, you know, pre-game post-game all the good press for the NHL. So I would be shocked if they look completely off of Nick's this going forward because you know, it's different. That's what the NHL needs a neat stuff like that that was off, you know, not a traditional set up but I think it worked out pretty well all things considered him to just drumming of switch the NHL that's really needs. Also. The other thing is I love the game without fins like that helped the natural feel of it. Like if there were fans there be kind of weird. They also couldn't have done it where they did it off. I don't know where they would have done it at Lake Tahoe that would have been able to suit, you know, 15,000 fans, but it was so good just it was like it looked like a natural, you know pond hockey light game with the wrong stuff in the background you had the fans and the water you had to go get spoke Z jumping in the water. When we determine was the one who was jumping in there was about fifteen different people. I think your dog I mentioned is when I was mentioned as a wine up, they probably suffered as mentioned as one so we've all been we've all been slanted on Twitter based on being that guy who jumped in with the speed of but yeah, I can confirm is none of us. It might have been me but but but nonetheless like amazing presentation, even though the glare was tough but still like it was cool. And as you said like there's so many places you could do this, especially considering you don't need fans like you I don't see the problem with doing this in a regular regular season without covid-19. Brenda Carlisle gets the a says it's one of the greatest thing that's ever happened to him greatest thing in his career. I think he said so big thing for him. He's the guy who a lot of people kind of look at life as a guy who am I getting a in the permanently in the future and I think should and will I know that I think the athletic did a survey on this past season on like, you know, who gets the next day and Carla was up there people really like did think the Carlo was kind of deserving of it. When do you think this happens? Well, I mean, I think some were determined once whatever David krejci feature is this year, but I mean, I think maybe the biggest take away from that whole thing is when I was good for college we get recognized for it. But also, you know Cassidy was talking about it on a Tuesday. That's pretty much saying, you know Carlo is Moon deserving but there's also five or six other guys that could have gotten in that I think would have, you know been accepted in that room cuz it I think one of the good things about wage Is Crohn's team? It's something that Chara set up and it's been carried through by Bergeron. It's going to be carried through the Next Generation. It's just you have these next wave of players are going to step up into these roles. So Cassidy said, you know, Mac could have gotten it. You know, Charlie Coyle even mention like David pastrnak as a guy who could you know, get it down the road. So I think it's one of the underrated same things about just you know, what Chara and Bergeron's impact are on this team is just you know, fostering and developing that culture in the room where I think you even seeing just that continuous life cycle of guys guys who will buy in who want to create this kind of welcoming, you know, team-wide environment like again, I think what makes you know, the Bruins stand out, you know with other teams and they all kind of go all in on these things may be one went all in and did the nineties theme and funny to talk about but it's good to see that this team even you know, when they're not given this much time to interact out of the iceberg able to do something like this and it seems a good song They all genuinely kind of appreciated from the weekend. It's I think as soon as the ice went bad on Saturday. We were like, oh these guys have to be pissed at to be making this flight out here to deal with all these, you know on ice conditions but seems like post game after all this like it seems like they were like thrilled with how it all went granted. You'd be in a good mood if you win 7 or 3, but it seems like they really did appreciate kind of just having this event to look forward to something that's unique and I'll be you know together and do some team wide kind of initiatives and stuff like that. So and again one of them includes Carl getting recognized and so good for him. And you know, I imagine when you know Bergeron eventually retires that you've still got a whole wave of guys who've been here for a couple of years by now that will step up into those rolls off as well. I feel like there's a guy who could get in a down the road this long as you said a lot of guys, but that is all the Bruins for this week. We discussed the time. I don't know if we discussed the one thing that really does not affect. It's even all the most fun. It's the most fun Jack Jack. I go to the Bruins. We do this every couple of months, but Connor what can people look forward to over Boston Sports channel 11. I'll be working on my name is Jack eichel trade trade office, so you can look forward to that. That way we breaking down obviously a lot of stuff up in the air with this Bruins lineup. We'll see how it back in Ireland does and, you know, see how his game translate especially if he's in the top pairing roll. Please next couple of games. So look at that. I have another couple of projects. We're working on stuff updated every single day. So subscribe over at Boston Sports channel. Com off follow me on Twitter. You can do that at, Ryan underscore 93 through all of that and for for Connor Ryan, I'm if Meredith you poke the bear lister's have a great rest of your day.

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Episode 401: Potential Jack Eichel Trades

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Episode 401: Potential Jack Eichel Trades

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I feel like i've been so preoccupied with The postseason an watching all these games and down the xs and os and the them and we're kind of doing a more of a an offseason show here in the midst of it. But i guess free for you. You've you you're useless. Obviously an annual basis now having covered the sabers for this long. but also you've been kind of in it for weeks now with With offseason stuff. Yeah it's every day you wake up and think of new jackal trade ideas. That's what we do around here in buffalo until it actually happens. Well that's what we're doing here in the state. So that's the plan so will initially. We're going save this one for the offseason. But i figure with the amount of smoke that would south there right now. We decided to just sort of fast. Track it and do it now. I still can. And hopefully you can serve as kind of a trade primer to prep people and then whatever the trade does happen we can we can. We're going to be an emergency reaction podcast. But i thought it'd be fun of bonds surrounds my so. The ridge today shows. We're going to do everything we can to prepare. People for that jack eichel trade from what sabre should be targeting and what they could reasonably expect to get to who's interested what the market's like what the best fits our What those teams are getting from. Jack himself so we were bouncing around some ideas and i thought that the best way to start this would be kind of doing sort of a back story in terms of how we got to this place in terms of setting the scene by like where things went wrong for both on the sabres. How would devolve their point where it seems like a matter of time before he gets traded it seems unfathomable to imagine them ever playing again in a sabres uniform. And it's it's i guess it's surreal in the sense that it escalated very quickly but also get came out of nowhere because this has been something that feels like. It's been percolating for a couple of years now. At least it's it's really where to begin. I mean i think you know if you want to go all the way back. I think this whole process started May not be melodramatic. But the day the trader ryan riley. I think that's kind of what started this entire process You know and i think it got kicked into high gear last year When i go ahead. His comments about being frustrated in wanting to win. He's been here for so long and then they fired the john manager on another change and then they you know the coach said he liked at least he liked to start. The season ends up getting fired. So you know. There's a lot there in the reason history. But i think it really goes back to that or riley trait. You know that that that's kind of you know for all the rumors that those who get along. That was completely false. O'reilly an either or pretty close to this day on you know. He sees one of his best friends. Leave the team They get a poor return out of it He goes a wins. The stanley cup the next year. And then if you want it No one of his best friends on the teams that gauchan leaves the team. Last year goes damp obey. Wins the stanley cup. So now he's watching too close friends in the league. Leave this team go somewhere else and instantly win so to equally good hockey players bogosian rhino riley right different scenarios different situations but fail nonetheless. Yeah you see. Vehicles friends leave and win. You're like wait a minute. What's what's now. maybe. I really do need to get out of here a quicker than i thought because i think at the end the day on his side and his agent wanted to wait. Movement clause kick the next year Nobody injury fast-tracked it. And i think to an extent to the sacred heart blameless in this in the sense although i could once out the door i think we'd been naive to sit here and think that the sabers at least undercutting adam's kinda themselves aren't ready to kind of go direction here. Yeah i mean. There's so many ways to take one thinking about the jack eichel era in buffalo. It's bang six years. I guess if you want to include this most recent one which was obviously very abbreviated. But i've got some stats for yoga time which i'm sure you're all Readily aware of already. Just to kind of help conceptualize the past six years Hundred seventy-one wins for the sabres in four hundred fifty three games to put that into some perspective. Vegas has two more wins than that. And they didn't even exist for the first two years of jacket whose career they've gone through four head coaches. I guess technically technically he didn't play any games. Wild on granado was the head coach season because he had already been out by that point but over these past six years you could say they met four different head coaches with him on the ice f. I want five. They have a minus twenty three goal differential in fifty seven hundred minutes. Which you know obviously isn't great but when you look at competitive fact that when he's been off the ice in these six years in five one five minutes minus one seventy six goal differential in sixteen thousand five hundred minutes which includes a one point eight goals four per sixty which is horrendously bad. obviously and Speaks to the issue. And i think that's you know when you're trying to kind of assign blame or where things were wrong or why these six years have been such a mess. Obviously no one is blameless. There's certainly enough blame to go around. But i always think back to how they got eichel in the first place in terms of embracing a full tear down and real sort of openly. Tanking the way we've never really seen before those two years in it worked out in the sense that they got to second overall picks in sam reinhart jacko who have been there two best players in in that sense it did work out but also at the same time they brought these guys in with a real no really no infrastructure to speak of in terms of putting them in a position succeed in having complimentary talent around them that fit the timelines to grow and actually create a good contending team there. And so that's kind of the issue for me where it's like. Yeah on the one hand when you're making ten million dollars per season and you want to be considered one of the best handful of centers in the league which he certainly played up to that standard The last time we saw him fully healthy in twenty nine thousand twenty. You should be able to be on a winning team but on the other hand it's really difficult to look at the situation. That's been around and say all right. Well this proves jackal can't win because the seemed didn't win because it was such a mess around him. Yeah i mean. That's really the crux of it. I mean you know there's people. There's always been the tankers anti tank debate here. That seems that ever go away. Maybe michael is traded finally will go away because in two thousand twenty one. You're still having a debate. But you know people will say who were against the tank that see. It didn't work all along really. That's not true It was actually very successful in the goal of getting like you mentioned reiner cycle but just everything else after. That failed miserably multiple. Gm's multiple coaches You know in the one constant of ownership All carry blaming that they never put a team around him You know there's always flaws with this team is always something they couldn't get out of their own way. And and i think from day one day they kind of set this up Just poorly like you said bringing him in here at the have infrastructure. I mean when you had a guy you know grow up around. no of andrew came as one of the guys he leaned on in. That's not trying to get shot of indicated anything. But i mean that's not a guy known for his great leadership in the room and kind of somebody while you're franchise player to grow up in lean on you know. I think they didn't have those leaders in the room early Now they have. Brian johnson there but only put one. They just didn't have players to culture. I mean you can stay. Ultra whatever i. i think. It's like if you look at those rosters like they had some good players table. It's not not not nearly good enough. It was never depth thing. They always had the top heavy. That's always worry you know they had they had skinner. Its top one line Going reinhard you know be the most frustrating thing in the world is all this time a lot of us myself just saying to split up. Uncle reiner the always had to play together and then we saw reiner can do playing center away from michael in all this time your answer to your number two senate was right there. When a rally wasn't on the team. I the answer is right. There things are more frustrating. Now that we know riot competitive position he might be traded. It's just it's just like. I said that the whole thing is the team can just never it out of its own way. The ice on the ice the always just find ways to step in it and that's where they are find themselves now when this offseason gone a lot of thought to the idea of like whether over these six years they've done right by him in the sense of putting him in that position in terms of surrounding him with enough players to at least give give him a chance and on the one hand i feel like did make an effort to do so because just at least in terms of like the resources they've committed to it over the years where they went out and they threw forty two million dollars iconic puzzle in free agency. I think after eichel's for season big you know they traded for jeff skinner. He scored forty goals by next to him. They gave him seventy two million As you alluded to earlier they wanted. They kept for whatever reason reinhard glued to him on his way instead of just bumping back and giving him a second center so they had more depth than so teams couldn't just one line they invested a high pick. You wanna say. Alex neulander like they were always in pursuit of getting wingers. That could play with them and and that could be top land guys and so that that's a i guess it's not necessarily like sitting on their hands and not trying to surround him with talented. Seems like every step of the way sort of from a process perspective it was kind of misguided and clearly the way they ran their business and allocated resources wasn't optimal i mean look at the taylor hall signing the video that now infamous video with terry google talking about after they. You know we get taylor. Hallway shows were competing for a stanley cup. Now it dude white. When did that that was the mindset. Though is all we got jeff skinner. We're going to be good now. We got kyle. Pulsa will be good. Now we got taylor hall will be good now it. Okay get yourself a top line team you just you forgot about the rest of your roster and that gets into the drafting of knee lander ending up poorly. You know middle stat. You know not really hitting kind of feeling. I mean i i know he turned it around this year but just so much. Yeah you got the guy to play with echoes. Always find the guy to play with like go. But they forgot about everything else and not dimensional. You had responded on here all these years who him and it was held trays on a team. You never have consistent goaltending along the way. So yeah i in a sense that yeah i mean. They went out and got a cain to a while ago when they got riley. When i got this they went out and got east. They always got the big guys they just forgot about everything else and for teams. That made it easy to be okay. We'll just shut down the top line. And then you know you read the standoff when it goes on the. We'll just cross this team in hockey. That makes a difference. 'cause uncle plays in less than a quarter of the game. If you also a third of the game so you know just your dominated the rest of design yet to be clear. They got a lot of the big guys. There's only one true big guy in buffalo in its rasmus stolen in so i guess the the next sort of part of the conversation is what any team that is interested in economic. And we're gonna list off. The ones that are in many should be at least doing their due diligence. Here what you're getting at this point right. Because i think it's fair to say that you can just throw away this past season You know clearly wasn't remotely healthy. To begin with out of the gate was playing through injuries. Obviously she shot three point three percent. The team was just mired in his dreadful run. I don't think there's necessarily being insightful to learn from it now. I guess the one caveat to be to that would be the reason why it feels like this has escalated between these. Two parties has been Which is obviously been reported. The disagree opinion in terms of how to proceed with his recovery and injury treatment. And how big of an issue. That's going to be moving forward. And i think for any team that is thinking about investing serious resources into acquiring them. That's a real concern because it feels like if you do acquire them you're gonna want to appease terms of letting him get the surgery that he wants to get and then at that point. When are you even getting this. Theoretical version of jack. I called difference maker into your lineup to help you win. And every requiring about the big picture of you in the sense that he still has years left on his deal in. It's like a one year thing and he's going to be a free agent trying to win a couple of this coming year but you wanna have something to show for all of those assets. You can invest into him right out of the gate. Yeah i mean that's that really is the tricky part of all the neck injury. It's you know i. It's what's the same time you had to figure out what cycles game to Does he want to do surgery. Place for the buffalo sabres Does his opinion change of what happens if he plays for the anaheim ducks california son right. Yeah i'll look at my next better now. All need surgery anymore. You know that that kind of thing is is the neck injury which something that i don't wanna put injected. He's just making excuses and just to go to town but he legitimately has a neck injury. But i wonder how much leaning into that to kind of push himself the rest of the way out the door kind of two innocent force trae without literally asking to be traded So i kinda wonder you know if he's moved If his view on treatment changes it may be moved to a team. That does get the surgery. And you know that's fine and dandy in nova. Look to that team that lets him do that but yeah. That's the complication. now. I think the sabres are gonna run into. They'll definitely have their suitors. is just who's willing to give up what with that neck uncertainty out there. Well i was thinking. I'm curious how you think about this. Because initially i was thinking you know it the impetus that sort the motivation makes sense for the sabres in regards to the fact that you know his new mode. No move clause kicks next summer. he's also going to be out. I believe seven point five million dollars signing bonus next summer as well and And we know that the sabers based on their past dealings with probably liked to make this trade before that they don't want this circus going into next season. So i was thinking. Oh you know that kind of removes some of their leverage because teams know that they're pretty desperate to to make the best move they can here now but not necessarily wait this thing out but then i had someone in the league. Bring up the sort of glass half full view. I guess From a different lens the in that you know. If you're a team like the ducks who might not necessarily be a team. The jag eichel would be at the top of his list. Is the number one destination for him. This is your chance to get him because come next summer. Once he does get full control over where he says he can play. You might not necessarily be atop landing spot for him in so it gives you this kind of window to make this move now if you're deduct so maybe that does give the sabers somewhere leverage with regards to expanding the number of teams they can actually deal with your. I mean that's absolutely correct. I think that that's the right way to look at it. You know if he's still here Next i i next year. I mean if he can then ask for it. Trading tickets feet up and say near boston ma net fun. It's one place i'll to and so yeah. I mean for teams like minnesota columbus Now that wanna in any other team that whilst to get in on this This is it this is this is your opportunity so in a sense you know. Those are running clock for both sides but the but the clock means more. I think for the team trying to get in on this Innocence because i guess it goes both ways because the clock run in the sabers to and then you get less return because he's dictating where he goes in teams know they have you over a barrel It's a really adams has the play the smartly You know. I think to start illicit. He's done the right thing and he has zeroed in on a couple just. Gm's in particular. Bob mergen anaheim Which is the smart place not only get a team that knows that they're not going to be on. The list gets the next summer but also general manager that knows. His time is wearing thin on. You know thin ice. If you want to make trade into put a winner on the ice so i think he's at least for seems like he's done a good job you know attacking those general managers and you could even say Columbus situation like that is part of the tricky thing for me beyond just the injury. Diagnosis are in terms of like what you're gonna get from them. Moving forward is trying to really hammer down what you're getting in terms of like a true talent contributor for michael right because obviously a fantastic player by and you have them for what his age twenty nine twenty five through twenty nine seasons Which would theoretically i mean. We can argue about the semantics of weather. Maybe he's already had his most productive seasons at age. Twenty two twenty four whether that's still to come for the rest of his twenties but it's certainly not prohibitive where you're worrying about paying him ten million into his thirties. These are the years that you want an impact player for. But you know i. I think the first time we did a show. We discussed sort of this interesting statistical profile of is where he shoots nine point seven percent on his first thousand or so shots from his first four seasons at he's kind of warble volume shooter and that's fine because he's very productive draws a ton of penalties. He generates a ton of shots in scoring chances and he's obviously creating a lot for everyone around him but then in twenty nineteen twenty. He all of a sudden bumps up to above average shooter where he's shooting almost sixteen percent. He scores thirty six goals in sixty eight games. He takes his game to an entirely different level in terms of You know his offensive production and that might be the outlier here in the grand scheme of things but it was always weird tough to kind of reconcile that a player of his skill level in pedigree would just be a sub ten percent shooter for the rest of his career. So it's kinda trying to figure out what you're gonna get in. That regard is also. I think a very important question printing. It's acquiring them and i think anything to check that when i was a players i think he had just two who is playing with In the sense that when you play with skinner he knew who was linemates. Wasn't he became that yeah volume shooter in. He was shooting more farther out in kind of shooting for rebounds because skinner was f- finisher around the net now when the next season came along until the nineteen twenty when he didn't have skinner and you know he was being relied upon. Moore's shooter than sure you turn that part of his game so really. I think it's it's one of the things that may come up. You know what dynamic and interesting claire to have on your team as he can adjust his style to his linemates or his team You know he has to take over a game. I'd be okay. i'll become the shooter now. Where there's more situations where it kinda gets frustrating. At times where he will overpass trying to be the playmaker power player at five on five. So i think that's unique about him is. He has the ability to his game and be successful doing multiple things depending on who was linemates. Mehtar in the teeny place for what he's asked to do But yeah at the same time you know. It does add some confusion to but does add some questions for the team acquiring his north of player. Megan get him. I am i getting the playmaker or megan and get. The shooter may get thirty. Six goals going to get the guy who's cord twenty-five but had forty fifty s. So you know that. That's the kind of thing they have to break down at the end of the day. I don't think it should matter because offensive impacts doing. Both things are so good that the other day. I don't think it really matters whether he's shooting at her. he's having somebody else. Shoot the puck into either way. It's going the network is on the ice be. I could see some general managers. Definitely you know having some questions about the way. They're really getting no. i think. I think it's a fair conversation. Because you're getting a good player regardless but just in terms of trying to map out how to get the most out of him or what players you want us around with a weather. He makes the most sense given the personnel. You have. I think it's important especially given the acquisition costs and his salary and yeah so okay. So let's let's spend this then from the sabers perspective because i'm interested in these strategy from there and when it comes to how you approach this in terms of you know what you're trying to accomplish what you're what kind of assets you're specifically looking for on. You've already heard some news. I think it was elliott freeman on a radio hit where he was talking about how they seem to value this coming draft more than other teams around league feel like they can get an a pet competitive edge there and maybe they're already putting that out there because they feel like they're going to get another topic in this draft. Obviously and so i am. I'm torn about that right. Because i certainly am willing to consider that even though everyone considers this to be a relatively weak draft in the grand scheme of things. There's so much unknown i. I'm sure that there's gonna be a bunch of really really high-end impact players that come from this drafting party. Uncertainty comes from wondering who they're going to be aware they're going to be picked and and that's kind of the precarious position. But i'm sure the talent is in there but i'm not very confident that they are equipped to figure that out in terms of who that talent is and who they should acquire. It's a bit easier with the first overall pick but if they're getting another top five thicker so it's it's weird because i'm sure you also read that piece by portraying his name your house gabbing at buffalo news and painted a pretty grim image of you know this time last year when they made their work Changes in certainly they. It's no secret that they cut down pretty significantly their scouting staff. And i thought they really made a mess of that. Eighth overall. pick. By digging jack quinn. Instead of a bunch of players that would have preferred instead. Whether it was on. Dell or seth jarvis even or markle rossy. And so i. I just think it's the haven't really given us any reason to feel confident. That approaching this trade as our. Let's we want draft picks for this year even a high end ones. Because we feel like that's where we're going to be able to get our difference makers view those premium assets. I just don't really have a lot of confidence that they're going to be able to turn those into the legitimate high high and assets that you need to justify trading jack eichel. Yeah i mean not to mention. They have one of the small scouting staffs in the league. still to this day. I mean they made some additions to it. Still relatively small. And you know that. That's concerning for how much i think legwork into the season because you're relying a lot on video you're relying a lot on Numbers if want they've been analytics department of one too. I guess now you want to count karmanos There's that aspect of a to rely on the data standpoint because they're just so much that this draft is uncommon. And if you're going to go ahead and spin it to me that what we think we can take. Advantage of. This draft will amin. You better be sure because you have a small group and there's a lot of players play replayed in weird leagues that rely on video. And you better make sure your data's right and you told me last year that you relied on data ends some video scouting and you walked away with jacqueline over marco rossi amazon dell so your first testing though so well mean you know in the now there's deters the turnover too so jeremiah. Crowe kind of in a sense. Brad draft last year will now jeremiah curl flips over the pro side and jerry. Foreman is running the amateur side. And then you still have. Jason nightingale was director of analytics and also the assistant amateur director of amateur scouting. So you know there's there's that transition it's also going on here in the now caramels in the picture so you know it's just a lot of change over in a lot going on when you should be focused on if you're really gonna head on this track you really need to be focused on it and you really need to be adapted in the details and be confident about your picks and just all this turnover. All of his change kind of concerned me to the point. You're making that you don't know how much you can rely trust on them. Now if you have pick one in three right. That's pretty hard to mess up. But if you have pick one in penn eleven then that eleven picking kind of in. Don't mess that up you know so. It's it's definitely worth questions because this route last year was the first pick. Duffy didn't pass the test. You want to gain an advantage with your sports bets. need it. Download back q. L. he only app. You'll need to make smart bets. 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I'll take fewer assets in this regard but make sure they're they're high quality ones is opposed to just trying to get a bunch of pictures that i wonder how much you think the because obviously i can adams is relatively new and so he doesn't necessarily bear the brunt of this but i think from like a fan base perspective and i guess from the ownership perspective there is on the one hand you could view trading jack eichel here as a reset biden refresh star right. Because you're like okay. We're gonna get rid of the guy who has been our star player over the past handful years and makes the most money already team we're gonna get either. A bunch draft picks back or young prospects or players. And we're gonna sell you on this kind of future hope and a couple of years down the road. We're gonna try to get this thing going again but it's impossible. I think to get that fresh. Start if you're the sabres because there is this organizational baggage of the past decade of despair. That's just looming over all of this where it feels like after everything they went through to get eichel in the first place like it's not just your conventional. Oh we're just gonna trade away our best player because that's the right route to go. There needs to be a very clear kind of identifiable plan of what's going to happen after that beyond just this trade to may get all kind of make sense and to make people feel it's not just going to be another six years now kind of the same thing reagan. Yeah and hands on things. come adams to. This point hasn't really done now. We might get a sense of what direction is going on. But the return of the acl trade a. We don't know you know that that's a lot of the conversation is. Is it a full rebuild. Is this going to try to be a quick reload where you're going to trade eichel and try to convince my art design long-term and then get these new pieces and try to get running here quickly or are you gonna try hristo michael and reinhard in start over and then relying cousins and middle and these guys you get back in these topics to kind of innocence. Do this all over again. And it's we don't know and i think that's going to be tough selling to the fan base if you're going through a full reload for full restart i mean Starting from the bottom already about but in a sense starting all over again in break you know this market no is great hockey market but if you look at some of them are some last season i it should be alarming to them Now the tv ratings were dali belief thirty five percent in this local market alone. That is scary. And then they also when they were able to have fans in their building they could sell out tickets and that was like twelve hundred fans two thousand fans. They only had a few games with fans in the seats because they couldn't have anymore because they couldn't sell tickets to the game. People weren't buying them going and that's at two thousand measuring the full capacity of trying to get sixteen thousand people in there. I mean if they don't set a plan don't get people to buy in. You're you're going to be looking at some bleak bleak pictures of that arena next year. I mean we're looking at like no florida by. You're even looking at situations like we see in florida when you're gonna have seven eight thousand fans in there because people just aren't doing any more people are not buying in. They're not taking the selling pitch anymore and to stir just fed up in. It's gonna hurt the owner's pocket next especially for a league in probably a team that needs to sell tickets to kind of win back some of that money right at. They lost him kobe it. It's a really rough situation. Good good i don't. I don't blame the fans at all. I mean i wouldn't be burning my hard earned money on whatever the hell that team. This past season was either so it's very justified. And i think thinks neighbors friends are awesome. I enjoy interacting with him on twitter. And i think they as passionate as it groups though yes All right well. Let's get into a i feel like we've done a lot of the heavy lifting here in terms of setting. See now we can kinda get into the meat of this and actually discuss some of the teams. That'd be interested the fits reichel. They're also what the sabers would be targeting from them. So i know you've been doing this over the weeks on your website in terms of Kind of working your way through the teams. So let's start with the ducks. I guess because it feels like they're the most The spot he's linked to the most right now and it seems like that's On the most likely outcome But will work through all of them especially some kinda out of left field ones as well below. Let's start with the ducks. Where do you where where do you want to take this. Why you can talk about players. Should be targeting. Any which way you want so okay. So here's the situation with the ducks. I think that a lot of people us abors fans look at the ducks in go. I need to get one of zebras or drysdale. More specifically zegers or it's a complete failure. I'm not there I think you can build a package from the ducks without those two guys in it. That means it's gonna cost the ducks more so from people i've talked to you. It seems like the ducks are would prefer not to include secrets retrial. Maybe that's the situation now. The sabers trying to push on them to get one of them out of there I i think this trade is definitely going. If it happens anaheim it's going to include third overall It seems like people. I talked to that max. Comb twas probably going to be a part of it but it wouldn't hundred percent So there are those are the main two pieces there and then it's what you build beyond their You know. I wrote an article today right kind of broke it down into tears to your one. Two to three from tier one is ziegler risk. Drysdale third overall pick one of those. Let's say third overall tier two then becomes comb twat You know gibson sam's Steel jones think speaking of picking the wrong players. I think stealing jones are the two. I guess you can say landmines in here. I would try to avoid. But i see this interest in those guys and that kind of scares me and then your third here is you know. You've gotta prospect Take a parole hostile jackson. Mccomb henry thrown amer any other prospects. You pick one of those guys and then you kind of have your package I think the wild card in year is john gibson and all of this. It doesn't make sense especially for the ducks more but even the sabers the rebuilding why they would do that. But adams from my information is when asked him for about a year in his name gibson has been involved in these talks donald. That means he'll be in this deal but they've had conversations about it in. It's just it's interesting because if they do get gibson than that gives the idea that they're going to try to defend this quickly. where from an anaheim standpoint. I don't understand why they would do that unless they know they have. Another goal in their back pocket because then is free agent. Maybe it's pretty interesting comes back to anaheim. I don't know. But i don't get from anheuser. Pets perspective why they would do it but you know his his name is. Is there still yet. It's tough to reconcile because you figure if you're acquiring You're gonna try to compete for a playoff spot next season and you'd figure that roadmap to that involved johnny gibson being what he was before the previous two seasons in terms of his performance. Now i've also seen people say like oh to help make the money where you can throw in gibson as a captain his past two seasons. The numbers aren't good even really whether you're looking at roissy. A percentage of the goal save about expected. I think there's a lot going on there. Because in each of those diseases he started off remarkably well and looked great. Feel like as the year went along. He kinda like feel his soul being ripped out of his body playing behind his dreadful team. I mean looking at it less two years on yesterday on evolving site. He's faced the third most third highest body against all situations here last two years. I'm just get tired and like you said just gets exhausting and just sucks And he does have six years left on his deal. It's at six point four million which is an outrageously high for his age. Twenty eight thirty three years yeah. It doesn't really seem to make sense if you're the sabers unless you are trying to turn this thing around quickly or potentially flipping him to a team that will future assets whether it would be an edmund to or a carolina or someone like that so that would be interesting but yeah. I would think that if you were identifying goalie. I'm not necessarily sure why you'd necessarily what not like this. But i think like lucado style makes a lot more sense in terms of the timelines for the two teachers. So i would be going that route i i really can't comprehend a scenario where the ducks would give up in this trade. I understand you need to give up something. Really good to get a player of jackals caliber. I'd just think that would be a very negligent and move on bob. Moore's part but you're right. I think he seems very desperate to get the ducks at least relevant again. And that makes him a good. Gm to be targeting for trades like this. Because if there's anyone that's gonna push in a bunch of future chips to get a player that can help them right now. It seems like it would be them. So yeah i think you certainly have to get at least one of those premium assets. I'm not even sure that the third overall or drysdale would be enough on its own but if you're lumping together with a bunch of other stuff like you said that does become interesting. Yeah before we get off the ducks if you wanna talk about negligent. I put it on on. Usa nano clarify myself again today. If i'm running the ducks i'm nowhere near the strait but like it just. I don't think lines up their timeline. I think it's to be the sabers west. You're going gonna trade key assets even if it's gibson and off your team inner going to have guys like raquel and mason and lynn home on one year deals and you're going to give away a third overall pick in two. It smells exactly like the sabers situation all over again. I think it's dangerous. I think if you're not giving away zegers for drysdale i can talk myself into. I do think the question of what the ultimate end game is in terms of where it's going to get you a very fair because like this team was really really bad. Last year i watching the games. I honestly thought they were pro. May be the most i watched all year. Forty one point. Two percent goals share just slightly better than the sabres lost eighteen games in a row by the way forty five percent expected goals. Sheriff they were really really bad. And yeah. if you get jackal you add him. You hope to get better goalie performance you. Some of these young guys do develop. You can certainly have especially in that week. Division of there is next year but it just. It's it's very risky for me in terms of if you're gonna move in all of your future assets that he would need surround a jack eichel to do so now seems like you're really not lining up your timelines in terms of trying to actually strike a competitive windows so it's a it's a big issue but like i said if you can make it happen without giving away too best young players then. That's something that you certainly opt entertain for sure all right. I'll give you my my favorite one. Because i hate the ducks. One sows range. Me i i keep calling hurricanes here yeah first off. They have so many forward prospects to choose from. If you're the sabers. I do think that seth jarvis would be the gem thereby whether it's ryan suzuki patrick stole our jack jewelry or dominik balk james like they had just they done such a good job traffic in stockpiling assets over the past. Couple of years that you can get a number of those guys to go along with the first. Or what have you. You can help. Make it happen. By essentially taking on jake gardeners died contract with. I think two years after four point something per or whatever and kinda helped make the money where it can that regard. I think what's interesting here from the canes perspective for me is if you get a jack eichel all of a sudden you know you've got a hold on the down the middle already you've got stalled for two more years you've got trojan next year as well below you. You can really experiment there. I just think it does such a a gives them. i guess. Such a massive room to elevate their ceiling as a team that. I think it's something you certainly have to entertain and it seems like the other pieces to do so so i'm kind of curious. It seems like at least from the reputable sources. They haven't really been. They haven't caught onto much traction in terms of like being linked to this trade which which strikes me as odd but it seems like the pieces for both sides would make a lot of sense. Yeah for sure. It's it really would set carolina up to finally make that run or get over that hump in that conference Because i haven't they would be maybe one of the best center groups on the middle in the league If they add eichel now the question is freshly coming from an owner who just had a money. Don't maybe a battle and away with the head coach Who just want jack adams award. Does the owner wants to pay a ten million dollar player the waters dougie hamilton. Come into this. nfl The they want him back See i think there's a lot of assets jarvis They included first-round pick but then it delivers round pick. So then what else does he want. They want russia player to you. Know is that a warrant. Fogel is at an hsa or know somebody else off that roster to into carolina. Wanna do that But it really feels like carolina has to do something that they're kind of like stuck in the mud here in the spinning their wheels keep getting the same spot in the playoffs and can't get over the hump so they have to do something here That's i think. The interesting part with carolina i think packaging together a number of those prospects in consolidating into one massive piece. Like like eichel makes a lotta sense. I forgot to mention the ducks. Because you just brought up. In terms of how late carolina's theoretical first round pick would be vows making a trade with the ducks frankel here. I would be trying to get future. I only two first round pick as well. Yes because i think you could easily talk them into being. Can't jack heikal. you're going to be good next year. Don't worry about it. And i i just beyond the i mean who knows what next going to be like but also i'm not sure even healthy jack eichel makes that team actually very good considering all the pieces that would be around him so that will be a we. Don't really see. nhl teams make. It seems like more of an nba. When you see the superstar trades where you're like all right we're gonna get twenty twenty three twenty five twenty twenty seven and twenty nine first rounders and then all these pick swabs and other years but we trade that i'll be very interested but who knows if there's an appetite to do so if you're the sabres because that's not something that necessarily hopes you sell tickets next season. Yeah your your regular big return in here like oh. We're going to get next year like yeah. But that's tough so it is. I think i think the hurricanes was looking at it. I think what would be appealing for them here. As well as is they really because of the way lot of their contracts are structured. Like pretty much. Everyone comes off the books within the next two or three years. So if they wanted to i think they could potentially even retain dougie brown jackal. If they got off of jake gardeners contract you may be one more. Obviously sweden the pot for over the sabres in terms of assets. They're getting back but then they could get creative. With like maybe bridging such macabre something like that and making all the money where you can retain massive pieces for the next couple of years and really just try to win a cup over the next three seasons and then figure it out after that so i don't think the the money in the contract right goes necessarily prohibitive in terms of like all right. We're going to go with them. We're going to have to bleed. All these other assets over the next two years for the other thing about carolina to i coin from a sabres perspective. If i'm kevin adams i want one of those p soccer blue line and they'd be willing to move patchy but if they're gonna make iran do they wanna do that because yeah i mean they have their prospects to beside or you're getting a lay first round. Pick so i want a roster player. that's gonna hurt plus chicago staying in the east. In that's reported. Friedman mentioned it teams in the eastern conference kind of have figured out while it's going to cost more for us to acquire them than it would for the ducks because he's out there out west. So that's why. I think you know is carolina willing to give up a defense -pecially the sabres might have interest in Be their new top guy for their situation moving forward. I mean i get it in a way. I also think if you're the sabers is you really need to worry about improving your own team over in terms of like the east west thing. I get that it's embarrassing having to to see him play against you especially with only good team for a bunch of times every season. I understand from a pr perspective. It's got him a nightmare but the only way that they're gonna fix this. Pr perspective is by having a good team for ones and so they should just worry about getting the best players they can for themselves. I would increase the price tag. Individuality like boston or montreal. Right then i would make it more expensive for you but carolina columbus. Even you know the rangers. I would just because i'm spiteful i make the race more expensive but same thing like i really only only your division at make them pay more but just you know take you kind of in away taking the east completely out of it right. I think might not be the best approach either way. So we we've done in the canes here i think Who's next on your list in terms of most interesting fits slash teams. That should be in on this. I think we have to talk about columbus razor. The team ups next can most connected beside the dock year. I i can't figure out a trade that makes sense but yet here. They are continuously connected of long ducks. It's hard to figure out. I mean i get it. They're going to up jones. They have three first. Round picks are gonna have a lot of assets right But i don't know where does that get you. Yeah it's the same thing that balls into the tuck situation as you get eichel but he give up all these assets. And where are you so i get into the china. Maybe sell a fan base in columbus on. Look this guy now and he's year five years. You can't leave us like everybody else appears to want to leave us. Then maybe you get some guys to stay there with you because you have eichel so i can get it from columbus standpoint but in there's not a lot of high end prospects they're in tabor's depict from so i just don't see how it makes sense from a cyber standpoint lead the columbus yet it seems like a very sabres evening to To prioritize one of the two blue jackets goalies premium piece in this trade. And if that is the case i think that's a big mistake as much as i love elvis. I just think it doesn't make sense from the sabers perspective. A yeah and then also you know you factor and we've talked about like cycle you acquire. I go and you do have them there for the next five years. Also his glove dixon next year and all of a sudden if he's unhappy than he controls and has leverage in terms of what you're gonna do with them next and you kinda locked yourself into another nightmare not that that should preclude you from trying to get good players like if you're and the blue jackets you need to figure out how to get good players and keep them and i'm sure winning helps with that but it's a would be very risky so that would be a strange for me but it'll be it'll be a very fitting to to see him links to all these a california deems stuff and all of a sudden he's just gonna columbus. Let's go to a fun. This is this is a dark horse. Really interesting idea colorado so funny if i had this one pitched me by our mutual friend. Kevin who is great twitter. Follow aside from just truly horrendous goldfield aches but got that in had to be they are interesting to me from the perspective of necessarily see. Because it just doesn't it doesn't make sense from how we've see them operate over the past couple years in terms of like how they are to take on future financial commitments and how Obsessed with keeping the financial flexibility. That it's gonna take once you know this summer. They're going to have to pay my car and landed skog and then kim and so on and so forth but the pieces are there because you know adding new hook would certainly be a crown jewel here and probably one of the best young players that the sabres could dream of getting from any of these teams But then you could also throw in. Potentially tim ends and there. You could obviously mess around with draft picks and stuff. But i also like the idea of acquiring the last year of nauseam qadri deal in flipping to a contender and getting other assets from that as well so it and to help make the money orrick obviously super bowl team so i think colorado would be a fascinating one and i love it from the perspective of having this fast guilty and following short and just continuing to double and triple down on it by just getting as many fast skilled players can. If you're them. Yeah i mean they had the pieces to do it. It's just if not can they pull it off nine. If i'm not mistaken. I think mckinnon said he would take a sweetheart deal again if it meant mendham winning games and you know so that that's out there and we will see. When the time comes for negotiating. If that's the case could just be saying that. But i think it makes again a team that just like related can't get over the hump every year that his colorado. This colorado's year. They just can never get over the hump. So yeah you finally go out in you've acquired all these assets all these prospects you know built a young group in there And maybe this is the time they take that big swing In would be fastened because that would be absolute a healthy eichel with mckinnon and renton and my car. In the rest of the pieces they have built around their team would be incredible to watch. But it's just does colorado for the reasons you mentioned. Want to take that big swing. And i don't know where At of or if he's desperate enough to really make that push now is tricky. Because it's certainly like. I think you know different circumstances because you. He was older at the time but like when pinera became a free agent they made a pretty healthy run had him but they are very clear about limiting the term in terms of keeping the years down. And just giving you a bunch of money over the next couple of years but keeping those years especially when mckinnon comes up for a new contract as clear as they can and ten million cap hit for would certainly complicate matters. But i guess if you're them you could potentially hope that you know three years down the line. Let's say maybe the cap does finally start to go up a little bit or you can figure it out after. I mean heck if you win a cup between now and then i'm sure you take that as it outcome if you're them so yeah i that would probably be the most by now. Come i think for both sides. Because i think buffalo could probably get the best combination of young players from colorado in a trade like that and obviously seeing him in that system and the talent around. I would be really fun from an entertainer perspective. So i like that one like a lot. I got a couple others here. I think the wild are interesting me because they so desperately need help down the middle and it would make sense and they do have some young pieces to to make it happen looking. I thought about them a lot cap. She is an absolute nightmare in the capris off situation. I wonder if that much changes for them to figure out what's going to happen. They're like it. Goes back to russia. Like i don't think that's going to happen but i think it is either but here's the thing if six players with six plus million dollar cap. It's moving forward and it doesn't include the three best forwards to sign this number. Yeah so are you're gonna get to wave to go to buffalo. Like i don't know i mean the interesting part for me in minnesota traders. You can take mad number back and flip him to somebody from our assets would almost even brody potentially Yep yeah no that'd be that'd be very interesting and certainly like he's i mean jack. Nicholson make every team that he goes to better like. They're one of the few teams here where you know all of our concerns about the ducks blue jackets in terms of okay. You'll choir and then what wild do have can make trade assuming they can make the money where with while still having like a defensive system but also talent on the wing around him so it's not just starting from scratch jag nothing else. So that's part of what's interesting to me. Especially after watching lug around victor ascls. He's in his is number one center like just the idea of like all right now. We have jack eichel and joel. Eric's neck is our top. You centers like that's pretty awesome. I think that will take you pretty far if you're a team so that's all of a sudden very interesting to me. Yeah definitely and it'll be interesting. Who i mean the main prospect back would have to be wondering boldy rossi. It'd be interesting. Receivers would prefer because the this was a team that just passed on rossi and then also that kobe condition to wonder how they see that i mean i think recovering be fine but and the sabres medical team also scares me Put players around who might have some sort of medical situation so they might lean boldy which is fine I bullies are great prospect. To and then you know you can get dumbo football. I'm a first round pick and Killing addison's a guy thought about other to as defense prospect of may have some more pieces there to Yeah i think minnesota's definitely interesting team in dark horse with surprised they're not connected a little bit more on from remain people and even myself. I haven't heard a lot about minnesota. But you know they can play the quiet game to think. I think wildfires has certainly been buying this for a while But yeah it seems like they have a lot of stuff internally could help this is obscene terms. The contracts are going to give out it's interesting. We've we mentioned a bunch of teams. We haven't really talked about the kings in the rangers yet. Who seemed by out of the gate would be the two obvious landing spots in a probably at the top of his own personal in terms of where he'd prefer to go and i'm not sure how much to buy into all the reports about the king's reportedly looking elsewhere in identifying something else in whether that's just a leverage player whether it's actually true because they even if you don't include ivy all they have so many similar to the canes they have such a wealth of forward prospects that you could put together a very tantalizing package for the sabres without including your best forward prospect there and ran from the rangers perspective. I think they're certainly their front office. Shakeup as the season ended Indicates that they're going to be looking be pretty aggressive here. They seem like a very natural landing spot. And i wonder it seems like they're gonna be at least you know wishfully looking from afar and waiting to see what happens with sasha borakove as he enters the last year of his deal here. But i don't think necessarily precludes them from going after both players or at least keeping the door open for just because of the way You know their salaries are structured right now on how much money they have coming off the books after this season and all that so yeah i don't know do you think either of those two teams. I mean obviously they make sense because they've been linked to him but it seems like once this started they were the obvious ones and then as the life cycle of these rumors has gone along. We've kind of faded to the background a little bit. Yeah so ellie is tough because they make a ton of sense but everybody. I've asked i know a few kings people. Tell me the same thing as as john. I've even talked to john over in the mayor about it in his. he's adamant. Yeah leaving the t. They're not interested in michael they have other plans One of those other plans. I think does include sam reinhart So i don't think they're out of sabres guys completely. But i don't know like the party music on i just i don't want to buy but everybody asked keeps telling me no. They're not in it and the main guys are saying that they're in it really in some of saying you're lying underneath the kings pull this off. It'll be one of the great heights. I think until team has pulled off a full of what he can do it. So i guess for now though. I'll say that. Yeah it seems like la is out of it and then it seems like things have cooled with the rangers or just no talked in from insiders. And this is new york city. For god's sakes and you're not even here in new york reporters talk about it. So that's why. I think with the gm changer were jury. Not so much that he wouldn't be interested in uncle I just think drew brees other plans. you know. And maybe they maybe they just realized they don't wanna pay or give up the guys it would cost to get aigle soleil already in a sense. I'm sure they've checked in But they may have moved on already hearing what the price day would be in. Whatever costs them to hire. Yeah that makes sense. I was blown away to seeing the recent gaining steam for the chicago. Blackhawks to be part of this. I i don't get it. I don't know how they could do it from a cap respect. I mean i guess if there's really gonna come back right but even the the assets it's dock and let yeah first round pick and then what else. What else you got for me there. You know i think that'd be. i mean. I like her dog lot. I'd be very interesting. It'd be the sabers them but then it gets the same point the same conversation of anaheim in columbus. Okay you just shredded. You're young second line center. What are you have there now. Dylan strom is going to be the guy who's gonna be behind eichel like bbc from a store perspective that you know those guys at one in three. But i'm sorry two and three but I just i don't know i. That team is just not that good. You know it's really just patrick kane and that becomes a one line team. Are you gonna play. Cain the that'll be electric. What about the rest of your team. It's the sabre situation to be into the podcast. What what about the other forty minutes of the game. What's going to happen. You know. I think you'll just you'll get crossed. The goaltending situation is up in the air. The blue line there is up in near to yet they have some young pieces. That are but builds. There's just too much up in the air and get it. Chicago's maybe they kind of have the get involved. But i just can't really figure out a real trade that makes sense for the sabres on at this point. Yeah what about. The nights are available that because coming back to them as like. If there's one team that's gonna find a way to make it work. It's going to be them. But i think it depends if they can get by montreal or not I think it'd be fall short the montreal. They'll be more apt to make a run on adam but if they get to the finals i feel they're gonna feel like the way they operate they're gonna win. The company could still be like all right. Let's just let's recap. Nad exists in vegas. Though only i know my i don't i don't get it either. Like interestingly i think they do have the assets to make an interesting. They definitely do hacking stuff. But yeah in fault here. It would involve moving pieces that buffalo within flip to a third team. I promise sue. They'd given everyone that team. No movement clause retreat clauses. So right away to go to buffalo. So they can be flipped again. Yeah it's that's i mean logically make sense. They have the pieces and they like to be on the big names. We've seen a patch already portrayal. They're even trying to get all the trade deadline. That point boston kind of already was was in there so they like to chase the big names. They'll do it is just. I can't figure out logically with the no move clause for the money guys have to move out just the salary cap how they would make their work unless somebody pulls makita kucherov. It is hurt until the playoffs. Or something I i just. I don't see any way shape or form. They could work. Yeah which is why it's going to right. Aches all right. I think we covered all the all the big stuff right like it. Was there anything else we wanted to mention. I think we covered the fun teams and the intensity the boring teams and then the most logical teams too so i think we kind of touched on all areas of this for sure. Yeah all right jazz. A blast man. I'm glad we got to do this. i'm really curious to see what's going to happen here. Does feel like it's going to happen sooner rather than later so. I'm glad that we got to got to do this while we still good Buxom stopped what a. What are you working on. Where can people check out. There was all that good stuff. Yeah so Expected buffalo is my size by kabbage dot com Know right now we are. Will i Because the guy. I work with is coming back soon. He's just had a new baby. So i made him go on baby hiatus until the beginning of july but he'll be anthony back soon So we'll get into free agency staff. Will he over. The oh content seems to be a big seller right. Now for the rankles keep pushing that agassi about eating it up until that happens in then moved to reinhart crystalline in and religion. That's something we didn't touch funny. I don't wanna go backwards now. But we really didn't talk about that. There's team out there. That's trying to get and rhys aligning in the hilarity of being traded but has to take the big guy with them is pretty funny. Oh my god. She fit their three confiming expensive. Buffalo dot com oetzi. Md two minutes on twitter. I won't spell it. I'm sorry dimitri will tag me. Yes we'll do that and we'll have you back on definitely. Maybe maybe after trae does happen. We'll like a mini emergency breakdown or something like that. So i miss that aspect of responded. That's pretty funny for all right man. This is a blast. We will check in with sometime soon. Enjoy this little calm before the storm. I'm sure it's gonna be a busy offseason. i'm looking covering coveringwith you down to our man. Thanks tom the hockey. Pedia cast dmitri filipov follow on twitter at dip philipovich and on soundcloud and at soundcloud dot com slash dpd

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Star Series: Torey Krug, Jack Eichel, Mathew Barzal plus Mitch Marner signs

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Star Series: Torey Krug, Jack Eichel, Mathew Barzal plus Mitch Marner signs

"Hey it's elliot before we get going. We wanted to let you know that Sports Net's weekly. NHL Newsletter is coming to your inbox this season written and produced by Rory Boylan are NHL Editor and Co host of the tape to tape podcast sports nets. NHL Newsletter will deliver original content. You can't find anywhere else plus all the most important news analysis and videos of the week sign up now at sports net dot. Ca Slash newsletters. That's sports net dot ca slash newsletters forget the most in-depth exclusive hockey coverage delivered directly actly to your inbox. Can You keep all four of them to virus neulander Monir and Matthews. Does the salary structure allow you to do that we can and we will. Elliott we can and we will they put that onto shirts coffee mugs in Toronto. Now welcome thirty-one thoughts the podcast Geoff Merrick Elliott Friedman and free for the first time. We're starting off the podcast with an insert. It is Saturday morning as you record this twelve hours after the news breaking at the Maple leafs have resigned Mitch Monitor. It is a six year contract that carries an AV of ten point eight nine three million dollars first of all do wide brush thoughts on this when it happened last night when the news broke. What was the first thing that went through. Elliot Friedman's head Mitch Monir called it into this so this was monir saying I've had enough no more. I need more than Austin Matthews no more. I need to make this amount of money. Let's just end this. I want to play hockey so this was all monir. This wasn't Darren. Farris assist wasn't on advice of the agent or the family. This is all monitored saying done. I believe so. I believe that this was Mitch. Martyrs call you know ever since news broke earlier in the week that what he turned down the offers that has been on the table that had been said no to what they were countering with. I think the public turned on him especially the maple leafs fans and I always convinced the public pressure makes a difference but I think in this case it absolutely did did I heard it was a very difficult forty eight seventy two hours for him and I think he just said no loss like it's time to get going here. Obviously obviously if you've seen the contract and you've seen the structure. He's going to be a very wealthy man. I don't begrudge that at all. I think everybody should fight earn every every dollar. They can possibly get but there comes a point where you have to say okay. We've got to make a decision and then things and this was Mitch monitors time to end things. I think that when the day comes something is written about how everything went down over that time. It's going to be a fascinating story story. I think it lurched and a lot of different directions. I believe the maple. He's made very clear. They didn't want to do three years and I think it was monitor. Who decided okay. I'll go to six and then they figured out how would all work but to me. The biggest story here is Mitch martyrising enough's enough. Let's go what do you think of the deal itself self. Obviously you mentioned he's going to become a very wealthy. Man is going to become a very wealthy man not just by way of salary but by way of bonus specifically. What do you remake of the structure of the deal itself Elliot. I don't have any problem with bonuses. I know I'm in the minority here but if you're the Toronto Maple leaves the CBA va the way it is was fought for the teams that are not like you your ability to flex your financial muscle in the national hockey. League was curtailed like same with Montreal same with Philadelphia same with the Rangers. The whole reason hockey was shut down for a year was to fight for the teams that are not like you that don't generate generate revenue like you so if I own a maple leaves and you were to say to me okay that whole thing wasn't for me it was Kinda. Hurt me a little bit. Although you make even more money it was to hurt my ability to spend money on my players. There are other ways you have to find other ways to take advantage of your advantages is and that's what I would do. If I ran them. I would have no problem doing it and I know I'm in the minority on this one that I said it before and I've had people on some. Some of the small market teams say they want to strangle me every time they hear it. I get it. I don't have a problem with it. The you know we're we're in. CBA talks right now. We're going to no the. I don't think in too long what the new. CBA IS GONNA look like and I'm not sure how hard they're gonNa go after the bonuses. I don't think they're the two sides are really that interested in making major sweeping changes but jeff. I don't have an issue with it. Okay the question then becomes about the Toronto Maple leafs. It's now that Michener has signed and the big four are all there for at least five years and that's not just Mitch Martyr but Austin Matthews William melander and John Onto virus one of the criticisms that we've seen about the maple leafs salary structure is it is forward heavy and and older have been teams that have won Stanley Cups with that type of structure Pittsburgh Penguins being perhaps the most obvious what do you make the composition of the Toronto Maple leafs leaks right now where the lion's share of the funds are being absorbed by the top four forwards this is obviously a huge year and the reason using is that you take a look at it and you see that very CC Muslin. Three three of their top six are done after this season. There's no way they're gonNA keep them all they can't and you're getting close to a Frederik Anderson. Listen extension and you're getting closer to a Morgan Liley extension so this is a year for the maple leaves and they're we're going to have some cap issues unless they can trade the Clarkson or the Horton contracts. 'cause they're going to be on long-term injury injury. This is a huge year and what it means is that they've got to be able to develop players. You know essentially cow L. Dubers- is GonNa have forty one million for sixteen spots because we know next year's cap is GonNa be tight so barring. A trade of one of these guys is and you know. We know that several of them are definitely not getting traded. You know that's where you are and their ability to develop their ability to draft. It's going to be tested and the one thing is matthews and minor should be great players. There's for a long long time to virus. Eventually you think the age curve is GonNa hit them by the way he prepares the way he goes about things things. I understand that I just look at this and I say they're taking a shot with their best players and we'll see where it goes now. I think the other teams are furious. I think the other players are ecstatic on other are as by their them what what this will do is. We'll pass their ability to draft him develop players because they're gonNA have to do it. I want to get your thoughts on what this means for Brayden point and chuck and line and Connor Besser. Go right down the list but the one thing I want to get your thoughts on is the idea that you never get in trouble when you spend money on your stars stars. You never get in trouble when you spend on your most productive players where you get in trouble is if you spend too much money down the line on your third and fourth line players players on your bottom pairing defenceman. Do you agree with that I do but the thing is visiting proved that you gotTa be twenty three strong to win the Stanley Cup. Why one of the major reasons the blues won the Stanley Cup last year. They were one of the major the reasons the bruins were in the Stanley Cup final last year. They were deep Washington Pittsburgh. You look at all those teams. They have great players but they also had deep teams. You know death is important in this league. It's not the NBA and that's going to be what they have to do. Their ability ability to find players like trevor more at seven hundred seventy five thousand dollars. He's a huge player on this team now Razzamatazz Sandon to use even more important to this team now whether he makes it this year or not because they're going to need him for years to come. They're going to need players. Here's on their entry level contracts to make a difference That's going to be the key here for the maple leafs. They're great. Players are going to have to be drivers. There's no question about it's a huge year for new land combat and show the last year was an aberration because he missed the first two months. You know the the pressures on but you know. I think that if I was a player I wasn't executive. I want that pressure. I want the expectation to be on me to win and it is okay so what does this mean for the marketplace then and perhaps the most obvious one is breaking point with the Tampa Bay lightning someone that we all listen fridge. We all thought this one. John was one of the quote unquote easier ones to do but he's still without contract in Tampa. What does this mean for ca chuck the Winnipeg pair best. What does this mean for the other. RFA forwards out there. You'RE GONNA see two sides to it. I think you're GONNA see. The teams are you. The Toronto situation is unique. That's them and they chose things to do that. Way And we're not them. That's their situation and you're not not bringing that comparison in here and what the players are going to argue is Kinda the same thing players did when Connor mcdavid got his contract and I've said this many times connor mcdavid is worth every penny. Nobody's complaining about that if anything he's underpaid by other players said Okay Okay I know I'm not as good as Karmic David but I'm not six million dollars worse than Connor mcdavid and it lifted the next year up and that's what's going to happen here with smarter. People are GonNa say well point might just say look I better than minor and that's GonNa be a heck of a debate for hockey fans by Tampa is going to say they look. That's not our situation plus. There's the tax break you get. We're not doing that but you are going to see people say look comparable to Monir. Maybe maybe I'm not in eleven million dollar and no you're not going to do that but I'm closer than say seven and a half million or eight million and and that's what's that's what's going to be the problem for the teams like the two situations in particular are I think Calgary and Colorado because because both the flames and the avalanche of told Rantanen could chalk respectively you will be our highest paid player. We get that the issue they have is they don't want rant and making four million dollars more than Mckinnon and especially they've got land is God coming up. They've got my car coming up and they will have McKinnon coming. Hang up the flames say okay but there's a limit to how much we want you making more than their highest paid guys which are grow and Giordano. I know who just WanNa Norris trophy so I think that's the issue you know. Metal Shop Cal Connor thirty goals score no question about it lining situation. I think because a bit unique because she wants a bridge so I don't know how high those numbers are going to be able to get but I think all these players are going to argue that way Jeff Josh. We have a lot of listeners in Vancouver. What does this mean for Brock Besser. Why Bachelor to argue that he deserves a lift particular. Question comes comes down to the term like modern terms so the more term you do higher. You're gonNA argue your number. GonNa v if short-term it's harder because here's the teams will argue more forcefully that those are a years and nine years and the players argue. You know why Toronto's change the market. The teams are going to argue. We're not kilonzo so I think what you're GONNA see. These players get a bump but the teams are going to argue not as much as they think they should okay. We'll conclude conclude with this one the maple leafs and there while the leafs fans rather specifically love nothing more than stressing about their team. It is a bunch of LADY MACBETH'S WRINGING THEIR HANDS WALKING UP and down the hallways late at night now that he's done what do maple leafs fans have distress about now. I think they're just gonNA be stressing about. Maybe the defense do we have enough depth the same kinds of things that you always stress about. I always remember this interview last year. After they won the Stanley Cup I said to him. There's GonNa be no more questions and he goes. No you tell me what's the next question going to be. I just loved his attitude that there's always something. There's always something you're gonNA stress about. I saw that on twitter after the deal was announced saying what of martyrs assistive assist raindrops. There's always something. Just you know there's always a free goes always always always totally wrong. Answer because Travis Disturbance Watch starts now. Let's get back to our regularly scheduled podcast welcome to three thoughts the podcast geoff miracle alongside. Elliott Friedman is always always presented by GMC. This is going to be part of our star series so we're going to hear more interviews we did in Chicago from last week. You'll hear from Jack Eichel. Oh you heard from matthew bars all and you'll hear from Tory crew but it's been awhile since Elliott we did a news and notes segment on this podcast and always scare scare the you're going to be dating yourself since news notes happening at a alarming pace but if we can pause for a second and focus on defenseman around the NHL that have recently he done deals we'll get winnipeg. We'll get the Columbus. We'll get to Boston but let's start with Philadelphia. Ivan Provorov six year contract av six point point seven five million dollars which Elliott Friedman says a good deal for both player and team. I think that PR- overall long-term six point seven five is going to be good for affiliate and I'm. I'm always happy for someone who's GonNa make forty million dollars. I have looked at Provo through a bit of a different. Lens twice once in the playoff series against Pittsburgh. I thought there was a really talented guy there. Though that series didn't go well for Philly I thought he played his heart out and then last year when Ron hextall was fired he got a bit of a surprising quote saying of all the guys who I didn't think would be affected by their contract. Provo was on that list and people have admitted to me. Wait on on him a lot. I think he knew that I think the team new that I think is representatives knew that and they were thinking you know what we need some term here so the next time he deals with this. You'll just have more life experience to have it and I think he's a hell of a player and I think this is a great deal for both him and the flyers outside of Victor Hedman headman and you might be able to make the case for Judy and certainly Eric Carlson Maybe nobody from the Blue Line makes a better tape to tape long. Mom Mom pass like he's in the top five isn't he. He's a really talented guy and you know what this also is proof of. Is that the market for the RFID is not like the market for the RFA forward. Let's focus on another one that you wink at here and that's Akwa Renske of Columbus Blue Jackets three year contract. It is fifteen million dollars. This raised eyebrows because of as you point out perhaps just how low the AV was well. I think the thing about Lansky is that you're not missing anything in this summer when these contract disputes go on the summer. I mean you're on the beach. You've got your swim trunks on. You're on a boat. You're water skiing being your mountain climbing. Hell of Cracking Open Beers. You're visiting somewhere exotic. You've got like that inner tube with the DOC on the front of it around your it who cares if you don't sign and I think people are different. I think there's some people who are like. I don't care if I missed training camp. I don't care if I Miss Games Games. I'm holding out for every dollar. I believe I deserve and I think there's other players who think no white I it's not for me. I WANNA be a camp or I. I don't want to Miss Games. Let's get it done. I wrote in in my blog. This week that there was there was a player was signed several years ago right at the beginning of the season. I sent him not congratulations and he he called me and said I was never gonNa Miss Games. I'm in great shape. I'm not worried about that but I just wanted to see how far I could take this. I told my agent privately. We're never going to Miss Games. I get the sense Zack. Were inskeep as a kid. WHO said you know I know I'm going to camp and let's settle this and we'll see where we are in three years. Columbus will have to deal with a year away from unrestricted free agency but I really get the sense we're. NC was one of those guys who said Nah. Let's go. Let's play one of the reasons why we've talked about this. Before I think is going to be okay is that top four on the back end at Renske Jones and I think Ryan Ryan Murray's turned his career around in paired with with David Savar. I think they'll be real good. The question is we've always assumed that we're in ski in Jones are at the top pair but our savard and Murray that far behind so far is a really talented guy. I think he's one of the more underrated guys in Murray. Sorry the the questions never been talented but now that it seems fine. You're realizing you know what they got when they selected yes yes. There's no question about that. I mean Columbus. It's all goaltending right like you know the talent and you're sitting there and you know that every game that you play against them you're going to have to fight for for every inch of that ice because that's the way they play and that's the way John Tortorella wants him to play. Every centimeter is a battle so so they're gonNA stay in a lot of games because of that. They're going to stay in a lot of games because of their talent. I'm curious to see this year like he is always tortorella given Jones and we're an ski a rope like they're both rovers basically. Can you make it any more Roveri without the peninsula and there to create offense. I ran into Josh rimer. Yesterday we were at the maple leafs media digs taping something with Tyson Barrie podcast and I ran into Josh River and he said he said you watching this is Jeff does the play by play play. A guy in Columbus and Josh is obviously biased towards his dad and he said Texas is going to be a great player. we've seen hints of it already okay so what are these two contracts tracks mean then for. Charlie mcevoy so Charlie mcevoy here's the news of these deals him and his agents say and we're doing this on Friday. Provorov signed signed on Thursday night. I heard last night that the bruins and mcevoy were really working to get it done like they're in. Not You know who knows by the time this podcast the cast comes out it could be done but I had heard Thursday night. They were really pushing it and the bat to me was it would be a three year deal around. We're in ski. Maybe a little a little bit higher because the feeling is right now. The bruins don't really have the room to do six so we'll see. I expect mcevoy gets done. The person in who seems to know said he bet more on three than six and Josh Morrissey very quietly goes about his business. One of the top defenceman the Winnipeg jets on the top defenceman in the entire Western Conference. It is an eight year contract fifty million dollars six and a quarter. I look at that and say Josh Morrissey what a bargain is a bargain again. I mean it's funny to sit there and say guy is a bargain for fifty million but you know they tried to extend them a year ago and he said no he said I'll take a bridge and I'm I'm sure he looks at what he could have got last year and he got this year is being much better. That's a big win for the jets to you know the summer true traded Myers Free Agent Lion conor not signed as the tape this podcast. They have a victory. It's a victory you can say hey. We got a win here and that's a big win because I agree with Josh Morris. He's a hell ova player okay. Let's get to our star series. Now you'll hear from Matthew Barzel in a moment you'll hear from Jack Eichel in a moment as well but we just mentioned Charlie mcevoy a second ago. Let's focus in Boston. Bruins Bruins defenceman a couple of seasons ago. Torey Krug scored sixty points something that's Dana Chara had never done as a member of the Boston bruins and I believe from many turn heads if it I didn't it should have he is someone that you've pointed a couple of times a boat to get paid by the Boston bruins or someone one else He is very much a new school defenseman. Ignore the size focused on the skill in advance of this interview. What did did you expect out of Tory Krueg before. He chatted with them in Chicago. I've always been told that he has a real edge to him or he's not afraid to say things. I think you'll hear in this interview that that's the case remember last year. He got knocked out in one of the playoff games against Toronto because you got hit by Amazon and you know I said to him when the Kingdom Toronto. I got a chance to talk to him. After scrambling I said did you forget that Muslim was on the ice and he laughed and he said yes I did because he's the only Guy Tron a little hit you so there's definitely an edge there air and but like a mischievous edge and I think that comes across really well in the interview this was as we found out during the NHL media tour the summer of weddings his and the summer of kids as well and that's. We're going to kick off the interview. This is Torii Krueger the Boston bruins on the podcast brought to you by the next generation. GMC GMC Sierra trucks are John Takes. The bomb crazy swoops through the the high slot crew fires comes on the wrong side. Dan Elliott congratulations are in order for our next guest where he crew defenseman for the Boston bruins a a father for the first time and this may have had a game seven implication to it as well against Saint Louis first off Tory congratulations thank and tell us about almost missing game seven close my wife and I welcomed their first child a girl four days after game seven and it's great to get over the loss. I guess was scheduled birth or was no so so she goes into Labor game six game seven. What would you have done so we had discussed discussed the implications of that and being our first child labor typically as a little bit longer than the normal and she'd give me the green light to play in any game that ah immediately happened on the morning of a game or something go ahead and play and see what happens and just get your ass back there before the baby does. Ah Team Canada just played at the World Cup of basketball and there's a player for team. Canada's name is Melvin E. Jim and his wife gave birth while he was playing for Canada and he was there via facetime and I gotTa tell you like I always leave the choice up to people you make the choice it's good for you can imagine what that must have been like. He was in China. You must have been torn in totally different directions no I'm. I'm very thankful. I'm glad it worked out the way that it did. unbelievable experience and etes leaves you speechless to be honest. What is the way that parenthood fatherhood has changed. You already just even in three months. just you know you realize how selfish office yards a person before you become a parent and everything that you do even revolves around you especially being a pro athlete the meals what time you eat what time you gotta get up up and go to the rink and train and get your workouts and you realize how selfish she really are and and once you have someone to take care of you put their needs in front of yours and you go on your way before we get to some hardcore hockey questions here. Tori Elliott has a question of Boettcher cab Elliott so you are you the player rapper the alternate no player. Rep for Boston none. I'm Kinda just all just really intrigued and interested in really intriguing interested but you were at the player meeting on Wednesday night in Chicago. NOPE and you came out of the meeting and you're wearing shorts and chemo and people are auditory crew. The cavs are on full display. Now these art Martin Saint Louis Ask but the did get noted as being impressive Tori. I appreciate that I'm very flattered. Everyone's chasing Mardi so he's. He's the Guy our jammies pushing the pace for a long time so I'm very honored that my calves in the same sentence is there's still still using the same sentence though there was one player years ago from the Minnesota Wild who couldn't get cavs and ended up getting implants and guys roasted about so these are all the these aren't implants implants like these unnamed player with the Minnesota Wild. I don't have implants one of one of your teammates. All of a sudden walked in with calf implants. How would Torey Krug React Act. Oh we would be all over and if you think for a second that marshy without a guy walk into a room with Catherine plants here. You're doing it wrong. I want to ask you about playing hockey growing up in Lavonia so I'm from Toronto and half my family lived in Livonia the besets and the Mikulas wonderful people hockey families as well. We know the players that have come from from there yourself Ryan Kesler Mike Modano what was growing up playing hockey in Livonia like take us back to your early days on the rink is fine. I mean great recreational programs. It was always is time available. I remember the rink and I grew up playing in underwent. A renovation and I kind of miss the old rink how dark it was is the stands very limited a smaller ice surface in just a lot of fun like I said ice was always available. It was a great hockey the town and a Lotta. My buddies played as well. WHO's your favorite growing up favorite player. I'm guessing was a red wing. Yeah I was. I it's hard for me to pick one because there's so many hey guys. I always just go back to Nicholas just because he's played my voice yeah tough right. I mean Steve You. I was it was up there. I I love the captain and that Sukh in his plan against that soup because he was a guy that I admired the way played as well. You know tore a you've come a long way. You knew that when you became a pro I think there are people who wondered what level you would reach and now you're a very important player on a conference champion being a team that went to game seven of the Stanley Cup final and you strike me as a guy who is never satisfied like there's always a part of you who remembers. I think people didn't think you could do this and no matter how successful you get in your very successful people. Tell me you've never forgotten the doubts. Is that true. Oh yeah that's true and it's the question that will never go away and I'll have yearly Eurostar. NHL Player yeah but I think some of the narrative to who is yeah. He's great for smaller Defenseman so I'm trying to get rid of. I don't WanNa be just great for a small advancement. I want to be a great advancement and I think it's a narrative that has started out my career and we'll might never go away but I'm trying to get rid of that so I kind of felt that one two years ago and you had the sixty points season. I kind of felt that that all went away that anymore. I can understand why you think that right. I think people see you as a star defense or there you go now. You know what's going on in in my mind and why I'm highly motivated and I always have that chip on my shoulder so it's GonNa Continue I have to prove people wrong instead of proven room people right like many other players in this league have gotten to do and and had the opportunity to do so just trying to continue this train chugging along. You mentioned outside a couple of seconds go. I can imagine what that must be like as a defense playing against him. WHO's the toughest forward to play against in the League. Now I mean the list goes on and on. They're all different. They're all different. Luckily I I have Dana do a lot of the heavy lifting but you know if you're playing connor you have to be really conscious in your gap and speed control. You're playing said you have to realize that he wants that. Patty and he's GonNa make a play before you have a second to think you play Kucherov lobbies at time and space is going to shot off and anytime he gets a shot at it's there's a chance of a coin and the list goes on and on Patrick Kane demand so much respect on the ice that he ends up getting so much space out there because you're worried about what he's GonNa do at the park so I think all those guys are in a group of their own. Do you have any memento of the hit. They were saying. The fans of Boston always all right Kelly Sutherland. He wanted the next day so why was made started behind the net between I mean you got a couple of hops on both players. I know who's holding at the end of the crucial vote. Selectively sought out of the community for Krugel and Thomas is trying to make the hard number forty seven coming all the way from his own. Did you get a photo of it. Nothing not yet. I I think one day maybe I'll hang up on my man cave but I got nothing yet. It's the taste is still at my mouth of of the law so I don't I don't really want to I have anything in my house that I can look back and remember I know I understand that it makes sense. What so what is in your Man Cave. Tell us about the Krugman. It's not very big. It's it's a work in progress. maybe one day we move into a bigger house than I can actually set some things up. It'll be nice but I just got a nick from Jersey. That was gifted to me. My Wife finagled it through a few people pro. Personal is really I forget the later but drome again the sign stick. I thought early on I wanted to start collecting sticks but then I realized how much space actually she take up. and I don't know exactly what I would do with them but I'll probably get Ray bork signed jersey. That's really special to me Bob Yours well. Those are a couple more things center on my list and I eventually I'll get done a holy grail of sports memorabilia that you want it gives her something that all men this would be it. It's a picture it's an autograph. If it's a piece of equipment it's Jersey from any sport. Oh I think I think those three jerseys that I just touched on or are right up there. I'm extremely spoiled and blast us that I get to talk with Ray Bork and see Bob your on an almost daily basis in the summer at golf tournaments and I'm really close with race on Chris so we have a great relationship than like. Sometimes I have to take a step back and be like oh my gosh. She's a two best defenseman of all time and you don't realize that just because you're in discussions with them every day aw it's pretty unique last one business question. Sawyer quotes yesterday. Russo there no talks the only question I have is. Are you concerned at all about it. I wouldn't say concern. I would say just interested to see what's going to happen. It's my future. It's GonNa Affect my family where we live it's GonNa Affect my kids and where they go to school and it affects a lot of things so I'm not concerned just curious to what's going to happen. I think anyone would be great. Answer congratulations again on becoming thanks Trish. Thank you well. We're nearing the best time I am of the year puck drop. It's also the time to pull your gear out of the basement and work off some rust and there's no better way to handle your equipment to the rink than the next generation. GMC Sierra era why multiple tailgate whether you're six or sixty loading one hockey bag or a bunch the multi pro tailgate makes access to the truck bed. Ed Easy as because it turns into a staff that's four feet wide and can hold up to three hundred and seventy five pounds meaning even when your legs are burning after tre tough skate the Sierra. has you covered. I admire that story crew by the way the Boston Bruins I admire the way he's still has this idea that people look at him as if he doesn't belong in the NHL where I can't Elliott name one person that I know or I can't read one comment that would ever suggest that about Tori crew great now but just wonder if a player like that will hang onto that that those disparaging comments once heard as a part of his motivation if you lose weight yeah. It seems like that with crew. You're not the same. You worry that you'RE GONNA lose. Your edge like Jordan. Bennington was the same way and I asked him at the H. L. Awards. Are you worried. You'RE GONNA lose that edge that got you there and he said he thought about it but but he finds that life usually throws you something that makes you rediscover it. We're not perfect all the time so I remember when Pat Burns finally won the Stanley Only Cup as the head coach the New Jersey devils in two thousand and three. He was at the podium he was saying. You guys never thought I'd win. We're all looking like who said Pat. Verne's was never GonNa win the Stanley Cup but that's who he was he was the cop. It was the US against the world mentality right so I just think it's part of your makeup your DNA and where are you at on Tori Krug the defense. He's headed cashbox yeah. He's he's a great player and he may not be the biggest guy but he's got the big. cavs avs is we learned in the interview. He's strong and he's tough and you know he's a pound for pound is a very powerful guy. The Boston bruins bother the fans have had an embarrassment of riches on the Blue Line that stretches back to Eddie Shore Yup when you think of all time hockey right Toe Blake but you look at the Ritsuo Bobby Orr Brad Par Array Boarders Dana Char are I saw it could have been if the Japanese and like they've had a great rate on the back and I can you think of a time where there wasn't a great blue liner back there for the Boston bruins stretching all the way back like they've always had someone back there. I'm trying to remember right now but who was between Bork and Chara. Maybe the only time in my lifetime that would be the only time but like high end guys like super high end guys. I like his defiance. I like Oh edgy. He is Torii crew and a good sense of humor guy too right because my family a man from Levonia caught that Ball Jack Eichel. I'm always curious. I suppose you are as well about what happens when the star player meets a new coach and maybe it's a new coach who's a little little bit different. Yes but Eichel and Krueger will be a fascinating case study this season well. They're off to a great start as you'll hear in the interview he talks talks glowingly about Krueger in their first meeting together and I heard a story and I haven't seen the player yet but I will ask them when I finally get a chance to see them and what the story was told. Why's that Ralph Krueger met at this player. I think at a coffee shop somewhere I don't know if it was in buffalo or where the player lives in the off season and the player walked out and Krueger was still there and the player. I don't know if it's his girlfriend or his wife came back to speak to Krueger and I said I just got to tell you as his partner that that was a great conversation for him. He's he's never had someone make him feel that good about himself and I'm really happy to see him feel so positive for an upcoming season so the comments comments you're GonNa hear from Eichel Echo the COM. It's I asked him the question because I heard this story right and I haven't asked the player yet so I'm not going to say who it was now. It's like the old line right like everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. Let's see what happens when you go on the ice but at least he's trying to change the mentality. I'm wondering what Ralph Krueger's future is going to be in Buffalo. Is he going to be the coach because I could see him taking and a much bigger role in that organization depending on how things shake out. Let's here. It's this is Jack. Eichel the Buffalo Sabres on thirty one of the Pie and across Eichel shoots scores four nothing. That's Number Twenty Jack Michael Keith Berries from the Left Circle. I'm back that I have given the Buffalo Sabres the lead with ten twenty three to go in the third period his second of the they took they hit allows Darlene. Throw it out to the zone wit speed. I Don t scars fired a dark short side show Jack. I go makes it to one sabres. Save their first game. I I call on those meets. Go and it's dumbing sabre Michael Steele Ahead Eh Washington right through a cookie act coming the sick starring Jack Michael joins us on thirty one thoughts the podcast asked and jackets seems as if the majority of players that we talked to over the past couple of days here in Chicago younger players are either getting married worried or just had a kid so here's a question. Did you either get married or have a child in this offseason now neither of those okay. What did you do this off season. We weren't getting getting married or procreate traveled. I went to a lot of weddings. I went to a lot unfortunate. It's tough to say no right. I mean in your close friends. Get married get a lot of them. You're getting that SORTA. You're getting to that age where you're getting a million invitations and you can't say no to your close friends so so you got to go but it means traveling takes up your weekend. I mean it's always a great experience right but where's the farthest I actually came into Chicago and then drove up the Madison Wisconsin for one. It was a great time. It was an awesome. I had a great experience at the wedding had one in Pittsburgh and then one one a little bit outside of Toronto so you you know what we did we asked the three guys who got married hurdle nugent-hopkins and courier which NHL Player was put on the most embarrassing drunken can performance at the wedding and they wouldn't answer directly although nugent-hopkins through one of his friends under the bus all right so at the wedding us away this other summer which Taylor put on the most embarrassing performance harder throw guys ended up. I will say like not like drunken performance bad but dancing performance bad rhino was awful at Willy's wedding. He was hilariously Salihi dancing but he's just he wiped out a couple of times dance for was wet like He. He was great. I mean it was super entertaining so I'll say he he had a a great performance at one of the wedding. That's a very good answer. If that's a very good years yes that too yeah yeah. He deserves to expectations for buffalo this year. I mean personally personally. You had a wonderful season. Last Ten game win. Streak showed Buffalo Sabres fans what could be but it was also that rug pulled out from under them mm-hmm afterwards yeah. What's the expectation. If you guys going into the season well I think it showed the fans last year what it could be but I think it showed us to what it could be. If we win right what the the town would be like how the fans treat us. Everything and I think just getting that small tastes makes you want to have it all the time I mean it was it was awesome to see the way that they reacted to us doing that. Well unfortunately it wasn't sustained throughout the season. I think for us. It's it's fine in that even keel illness throughout the year. Obviously it's a long year. You play eighty two games. You travel a lot. There's Times where you're not good. There's many times where you're where you're playing well for us. Obviously we had that good stretch of games games and and we were good and after Christmas you know whatever things on row bit but it's just finding that that even killing us not getting too high after a win not getting into low after losses just focused on your next game. You're next opponent and trying to win that game and I think if we do that we'll have a little more success. I've heard that some guys have been blown away by. Are there meetings with Ralph Krueger this off season. Yeah I mean I'll tell you like I went to meet him for a cup of coffee in Slovakia and we ended up going to dinner for three hours like like just unbelievable. I was extremely blown away. That's a perfect way to describe it. I was blown away by meeting with him. He's somebody that if like if he says that he does something singer. It makes you want to do it. He started talking to me about like Bickham Yoga and how much he loved it so like I went and tried Bickram Yoga Jill like it. I liked it right. I'm I'm a sweater as is so I was hurting in the class it was it was tough but yeah. I mean I liked it like I enjoyed it like that's an example of kind of the type of personality. He has he when you're around him he makes you want to be a better person. Makes you want to be smarter. Makes you want to be a better hockey player like he's just he has that personality to M- it's like he brings the best out of people and I could not be more excited to start working within this year. You know what someone told me is like he's like that guy who is so oh positives so positive so positive and and you. WanNa say shop. How can you please this positive all the time but he pulls you in yeah. I mean I don't think we had one negative. Give conversation and the the whole summer I mean yeah. He is very positive and he's very he's very calculated like he knows what he wants to do and he does it and he has a plan plan for everything and nothing spur of the moment. Nothing's emotional for him. He's he's very thought out and I think it'll be really good for us. He's I mean. He's a leader like he's a very very good leader and I think you know he has the personality that it brings the best out of people like I said Yeah. I'm super excited for the season. How much of you've that three hour dinner conversation with Krueger was about hockey and was about other things Bickram Yoga itself. Yeah I mean you hit it on the head. If you sit down and have dinner with someone for that long probably not all going to be about hockey right so good. We talked about rock and roll. All we talk about cars. We talked about traveling. We talked. We talked about everything we spoke for a while. Obviously we spoke about hockey the team the sabers city but I mean I. I got normally well in the first meeting meeting. We had another one later but I got to know him. Well and I think he's somebody you can just talk to about anything I mean we went from talking about like seventies rock back to you know like Mercedes and travelling in Europe. Even politics like we talked about so many different things. That's a big one for you. Rate is yeah yeah yeah good taste like seventies rock so I go check out a little bit. I'm always curious how players talk to other players when they're going through something like Jeff. Skinner went through lassie's wonderful season shot the lights out as you all know. Oh and then went through that situation where we're all watching what's happening with skinner in the sabers. Here's is skinner coming back. How much would you to talk to either Jeff Skinner Jason Battle. How much would you talk to the two primaries involved in that situation or would you just say I'm pulling going back. I think in the situation you put yourself in skins shoes. I he's an outstanding person outstanding player like I love the guy and you want him to do what's best for him obviously but you also have our teams interests in mind and myself being their long-term I was sitting next to in the locker occur. Um I spent a lot of time with them so I was definitely his year hoping trying to get him to tell me what his plan where if he wanted to come back where his head was that you know he scored forty goals last year. You know how it is. It's it's not easy to replace forty goals in the lineup at all you know so. I think is a huge part of our team so when he signed I I was super pumped. I was surprised I guess I didn't know when it was going to happen. I didn't know if it was going to happen. he kept a lot of his these negotiations. He kept a lot of that pretty close to himself and if you know skins like he's a pretty quiet guy it takes a while to open up to you and if he does he probably wouldn't even still talk about that sort of stuff so I was so happy for him. I mean he's he's such a good person and he's such a good player like he's so so important to our team team and Saas pump the yacht it I mean he worked so hard. He deserves every dollar and I couldn't be happier for the guy true anything before we wrap and we gotta go we gotta go thinks what best of luck this thank you very much. Thank you sometimes do interviews with hockey players. Elliott and that was Jijel. You need to put on your hockey player decoder ring because when they start fighting around nicknames need to figure out who they are pretty fast rhino is well. I thought it was rhino. Riley Reinhardt said it. Here's the thing so reinhardt was not at this event. Ronald Rally was and after we did the Eichel interview for TV. I had interview O'Reilly for a feature producer. Michelotto is doing and I said to him you know. I heard you had a bad performance. I'm one of these weddings. Eichel said he looked at me. Smile is is what are you talking about and finally I realized Oh oh and he goes. I think you're thinking of Sam Reinhardt so your rights as Ryan I was wrong. I Ryan I just O'Reilly was there played for Buffalo the year before in theory that could have been at one of these weddings but apparently it was Sam Ryan her okay the one thing about Jack Eichel that I'm still the one question that I'm still waiting to answer is. How good can this guy be because. I don't think we're going to know how good can be until the Buffalo. Sabres are a good hockey team. I think that's very fair because is this is a guy who takes his game very seriously. He's one of Adam oates as big as clients. He's constantly working on his game but you can see he's a guy. The losing has got I too and like losing socks and they've done a lot of it and he talked before how he's worked on not trying to show the frustration one of the biggest critiques chiefs showed the front play with break-up and he'd stare at the ceiling or you get mad and they'd skied back. He's worked hard on that but eventually you have to be in a good situation to be at your best and they just haven't been I am a hundred percent with you on this. Where are you out on the Buffalo Sabres. They got a look at the sabers right now. I have a few questions one. What are you GonNa do with all these players Yup because it seems as if right now they have too many too and get that hindsight is twenty twenty but to do you regret playing middle stat in the NHL last season and three. Should you have done something about the goaltending. Those are my questions about the Buffalo Sabres. They really like their prospect. Oh Logan yes fantastic ASPIC. They did something about the goaltending last year I mean. How many years in a row can you do something? Carter Hutton admitted to me last year that you know he didn't realize how hard it was to be a a full time starter. I think you gave him a three year deal. I don't think you blow it up after one year unless you really think it's a disaster you try again and they will. They should be better. You Know Krueger. I think he's a really good coach. I'm curious to see what happens with crystalline. He has refused to say that he's asked for a trade. The belief is he has. I just think they're going to be better. I think the whole division is going to be better like I think Ottawa chance is to be better than everybody thinks but I still think they're a bit away. I don't think they're ready to be a playoff team yet. I just think they're gonNA be better. What did you think lean is games. Sola jet as fantastic What did you make of the Yukari trade I. I was surprised at that one but I had been told earlier that Chicago wasn't high on him as other teams. Were and you always wonder under about that because they know I'm the best. So what did they see that. We're not seeing first of all they also. They have a lot of defense projects. NEULANDER BUFFALO had to to move that just wasn't working. It was time for a change. I liked that deal for Buffalo. I I really liked what I saw him when he played in Chicago. I just heard the blackhawks didn't value him as much. Is You know other teams. Did you wanted to whether he starts a season in Rochester not because of performance or not because of talent but just because of contract yeah a lot of bodies the one thing though I'm a big believer when you're on a team like that you have to show the players. The performance matters players. I've learned understand who deserves to be on a team and who doesn't seem like that where you're trying to make it a meritocracy. Things are earned not given if that kid earns a spot and he can't get it your players notice players. I'm with you on that players know camp. NPS player and the players know who who belong the players also to understand the realities of weaver exempt. Yeah I get all that. I just think Buffalo's trying to do a mentality. Tell the thing right. That's the way I look at it the all in guy the guy that lives breeze. It's sleeps hockey matthew bars all of the New York Islanders. You know it's funny. Whenever I watch Barzel play I. I always think our fridge Danny Savard. I look at Brazil when he starts circling the offensive zone scanning scanning looking for lanes. I go back to the eighties and I'm like man. This guy looks like any savard. He looks like it plays like at that water bug though still rate shied strong player player great on his skates great stride Denise Vard wasn't that guy just when he does that move where he's circling the offensive zone looking for outlets to me. It just looks like Danny Savard interview. He is very much the all in guy this Guy Eats and Sleeps Hockey Matthew Barzel Your Account Ground San Fernando Boulevard one woman also they joined now by matthew bars all of the New York Islanders and Matt. I apologize in advance. The preamble to this question is going to be lengthy. Thank the so Elliott. Let me tell you quickly with the first time I met Matt Bars. All I think the fact that you said quickly is going to be a lie. I know so grap opened up a cup of coffee here. Chill out your feet up Matt so it's Memorial Cup Windsor and with Colby Armstrong Matt's thunderbirds have just finished their first skates and media relations director says who do you WanNa talk to her like ours. All so matt comes over and you're really gracious real nice. You put up with all my stupid questions about junior hockey. I could tell that you really wanted to talk to Colby Armstrong about Sidney crosby so from US interviewing you it turned into you interviewing colby about eighty seven you play against them now. What have you learned about Sidney Crosby in the NHL only speculated about back then yeah. I think I think that's a pretty right on that one but no just planning. It's said I got to see him. Actually at the Vail camp last year that annual Brian puts on just watching him practice like this and Kinda opening to me you know he doesn't miss a pass and practice. He you know he receives every pass. Whether it's an escape or whatnot he tries to score for every single shot and usually does score. Everything shot. Insists intense from susie puts escape on pretty much. It seems so seeing that was pretty cool as a young guy just you know this guy still brings it every day after the NHL for so long three cups I mean what else does he need. He's you know it's mid August and he's he's like lighting. Everybody up uh I think at Camp so playing against some just it was fun and playoffs. Everyone knows how crosby gets in the playoffs USA people out there and it was unfortunate you know for them. Obviously didn't get too many balances that series but you could tell he was focused and intense and did he say anything to you. Enhance shake alley at the end now he just he just said. Good Luck jet get lost. I get lost. I can imagine for your definitely not the only player of your generation who admires crosby that must have been a surreal feeling shaking his hand after that series was over here. I was you know before the series I was you know always see you watch Pittsburgh in the playoffs all the time as a kid and it's like okay planning. It's Malkin and crosby in the playoffs like this is surreal. You know so I was used up. I was excited and didn't let the UH the big stage. Get the best of me I think so I was I was it was fun. It was it was a blast actually plenum efforts playoff series especially in those guys remember Keith Yandell years ago. He told told me that when he went to the playoffs the first time they played against Detroit and he said that he realized very quickly in that series Mike Babcock and the Red Wings had game plan for him and that was a whole other level says in the regular season. They talk about you for ten minutes. You know they're you're looking at you but it's not is in the play offs to realize a whole team was coming after him. He couldn't believe how hard it was. What did you find report that I actually got to meet a key the other week down in Florida this guy so funny. It was unbelievable but I'm just going on that. I mean as an opponent I thinking okay. We got seventy seven games with these guys game one. You know you want to get the kind of the fire started a little bit and but now I could definitely tell Pittsburgh and Carolina for that Carolina. Maybe even more just very very hard on me. It seemed like they just not even individually just as a team. It seemed like they just had our game. Implant figured out and really did a good job of not giving us anything out there so credits them. How much did you guys play with a chip on on your shoulder. Last season beginning of the year rates you off. Islanders basically lottery pick all that and you make the playoffs in stone everybody how much of that was we gotTa Birendra. There are saddle because everyone's written us off. I think definitely absolutely right at the start of the year we saw projections thirtieth twenty nine of US coming yeah. I was like we were such a write off and then started hot and then people were kinda still on the fence and then we just kept on going and kind of just it was like every game. There's a playoff game for us. I share and we we want every point we can get and having Burien obviously with a new defensive system obviously having two boys I share that played unbelievable for us and Kinda on everything just worked out and we just found group during the season and rolled with it and you know we got the same crew back this year so hopefully we can do the same thing what was the best motivational tactic used a boat where everybody was picking. You guys to finish I don't know it was more just kind of look at it and be like really. You know like that's where people are putting us. You know we got a lot of guys on our team to compete in that play hard and you know it wasn't just me that saw that and was kinda embarrassed. It was kind of everybody that was you know and once we started playing well and started being some good teams where we can do this. We're you know we've got a good team here. No matter what people say a lot of people have felt that Nicoletti is underappreciated and there was one game against the oilers still have the visual burned into my brain and allow allow we stay there of him gone stride for Stride Connor McCabe back that it's just like it was one of the great one of the best things I I saw that season in hockey yeah from your point. Reviewers are forward yeah. What some things at Nicoletti does that you sort of step back and say wow. How do you do that because I think he's one of the more we still talk. I still talk to Nikko that two or other guys about that but it was crazy I was honesty. Slow on the back check. We had scored on cosmic. David ended up scoring on that play. You know he did some like one handed backhand pass. The Dry said it was it was sick but I had front row seats and I was just I was almost in all of these two guys two horses coming down the final stretch. Just like nick ended up getting scored on so it wasn't. I didn't get the last laugh. Watch them with a nuclear strike tried with no. He's like people to understand stand. This guy can fly on the ice like we do little relays or something in practice and he burns me. He Burns me good and you know I always tell them like on fast and you know I'm not ah I know I'm not now and it's he's off like he's very tough to play against especially as it. You know for a guy like maybe mcdavid like myself just like to use their speed this guy. You can't beat them while Oh you know he's you can never get a step on them. It's actually pretty cool to see how he skates. It's like a perfect is like the perfect skater so I've actually said that. I said that when I was like fourteen years old watching watching Chicago when he was playing for them I said that number eight is like the Peschiera I've ever seen five years later and playing with them. I still say it so. I always take credit for that too. You know you play on a team. That's very much the definition of team. GM believes in team. The coach believes team but I'm wondering in the summer. Do you set personal goals for yourself going to get this many points this year. I got to accomplish this this year I used to maybe persuade. Put a number on things or whatnot and it's good to have goals. Also I think everyone should have goals individuals. Just you know why wouldn't you. It's a long season and you work hard in the off season to to accomplish something so but some definitely last just two years and even in junior but definitely last two years in my my focus is aw more orientated towards definitely towards just just winning and that's sir. You know where we're at as a in the standings getting a taste of the playoffs last year for me was it was great because that's all I want to do. Now is play in the playoffs and get back to their and that's that's where I want to be as a player. You know you only have you'll have such a long career where you don't. WanNa be nine years in and you've only made the playoffs two times you know I want to be consists in the playoffs and that's our team's goal and that's what our franchise wants to become a consistent playoff team so that's kind of where my mindset just one business question for you guys. You're left on your contract. No player player can be unaware of what's going on this year with all the guys. I know you love this question already matthew. How much do you pay attention to it. And do you worry about it like in in your future or anything like that. Yeah I think I think it's fun. I mean being on the outside right now. Not Not not my contractor my situation but being on the outside seen on so how many free agents not signed yet it's kind of I think it's Kinda funny. It kind of gives the League. Maybe a little bit of excitement. Just you know who knows what happens. If there's some offer sheets or whatnot I think that it could get pretty interesting in in the next couple of weeks so as a fan personally I think it's I think it's been pretty fun to follow and so many rumors out there. What's going to happen happen it's like? I don't think anyone really knows so you know we'll see. It's going to be exciting next couple weeks for these guys. I think it's just crazy. How many guys are still left on the board? You know so and and big names to you know so it's everyone mentions. Mitch Monitor obviously just in Toronto but there's still ten or eight to ten other players that are on science so it's GonNa be interesting. All the rumors are just fault. Blame me. We Love Well Matt. Thanks so much good. Luck this year with the islanders. Thank you Elliot. It's always good if there's drama and it doesn't involve me signed Matthew Barzel but it might next summer. I got the comments almonds but it's fun. Watching all these are phase squirm might be him next year. This is proved to me of something I have long suspected and some players have admitted and that is that these guys love to gossip. Oh coin away as minutes. Oh Oh you'd love to gossip. They love the stuff that gets I would love to know and you can't ask it on my. You've got to ask it away from people how many of them have creeper accounts of them. I'm convinced the numbers all of them well over fifty well. I'll tell you what my first question for Sidney Crosby when he retires is what was your account. I am convinced I'm with you on. I am totally with you on this. That should actually now that you mentioned as soon as people retire and we have them on the podcast. That should always be our first question. That's a good point. What was your fake twitter account. Was your account What did you make Barzel. I really liked the kid. He's a fun guy. got a good sense of humor We've done on some stuff with him before. I think it's amazing already in going to his third season how much he's filled out to ask like he was always obviously. All these guys are in good shape pretty much but he looks like like a brick now. He looks really strong. I look at the islanders you know Lou. Lamoriello runs a certain ship there and I totally respect it because I think when he came to Toronto he came to the islanders he went at times. Were those two organizations needed that I wonder as bars all all gets older. I could see the NHL saying. This is a guy. We need to sell one hundred percent. He's got a really magnetic personality. He is pretty funny. As smart is in the New York area like he's got a real personality to Windsor Memorial Cup so were Seattle's. He's got the off day and I can't remember. I think I have been watching Iranian Saint John Anyway so Brazil's coming up to do the intermission with me todd and Colby her and he just stayed there the entire game and you know where it's like watching a game with an NHL in this case a CHR about to become an NHL and just watching them break the game down and point out tendencies and things to look for and he was picking stuff off on teams that he had never played against scene maybe once and was able to nail things quickly and deliver it. Well like men come on the air and talk about it with US breaking down different systems from different teams to me. He's a fascinating guy and one of the more engaging personalities in the NHL. This guy is going to be gold for the NHL once they decided hey we should spend some of our marketing time around this guy absolutely and people will say oh well last year he didn't have as good a year was rookie of the year season so long long term when you are coached by Berry Trots. It makes you a better player truth. have a final thought on these three crew Barzel Eichel. Here's my final. I thought I can't find the tweet but somebody tweet at me this week after the podcast and they said Elliot I remember last year. You said you wanted to stop using the word like so much in your podcast. Will this week you regress. There were a lot of lights so I'm hoping that aside from this past sentence. There weren't too many lakes and the other thing. I'd just like to say Jeff is this is a home run at the League and the Players Association do all the media. It's fantastic and the reason that we got to go. There was a guy named Jeremy mcelwain. You came up with the idea. Jeremy and he was the guy who also worked to get Tim and sid there. he deserves a lot of credit for the job he did making sure we got access us. Tim and said the features department and even Chris Johnston laughed left his space in our room a mess like he left garbage piled eight feet high there taller than cj himself. Wow and we were less accommodating the CJ should be embarrassed. Jeremy I sent him a note afterwards and he downpo- me outstanding work and thinks the entire crew and and everyone involved solved for helping get us down there to present these podcasts to you for today's Pod we leave you with a track we featured last season but now it's remixed here's straight from the heart by jeans party featuring sky walls. It's not uh Yeah uh-huh shows the half.

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Rangers, NHL Playoff Talk with Colin Stephenson

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Rangers, NHL Playoff Talk with Colin Stephenson

"The views expressed in the following program. Do not necessarily represent those of the staff management owners of wg bb live from the wg gb studios in new york. Your answer and that's right ladies and gentlemen thank you once again for joining me here on sports. Talk new york right here on w. g. b. b. it's a beautiful may twenty third two thousand twenty one just after nine o'clock here. We got a lot to get into tonight. We're gonna be talk with the mets and the yankees and a lot of basketball talk with the knicks playing their first playoff game in eight years tonight. But before we get into that we're gonna have a special guest on the line and that is colin stevenson from newsday. He covers the rangers and all things. Nhl and you can follow him on twitter actually at colin s newsday on twitter and Collin thanks for joining us tonight. How you doing. I'm doing all right. Thanks for Thanks for having me on. Not a problem at all and You know. I'm sure you've been having a good time watching Hockey playoff game so far a lot of exciting series including a you know at at west. We've had colorado just wrap up earlier today against saint louis before we get into. The islanders has has anything else in the nhl plus really stood out to you We we have great series going on in canada. Right now and Anything else that. That's catching your ryan. And he's early hockey playoffs. Well i tell you what caught my eye more than anything is. Is the guys getting suspended. And we're tom. Wolf couldn't get suspended. A few tried and You know apparently everybody else can get suspended. Left left right and center. You know that. I find that to be a little funny No i know. I've i've I've got a chance to watch some of the games i've been i've been on the islanders coverage for for newsday and so You know i've i've more or less. Get a chance to watch Hockey on the nights when the islanders don't play although tonight I was watching the knick game with my son's but no. I really have enjoyed watching carolina. I saw a couple of games of that Florida tampa series. And that was just. I was just awesome and like the hitting and intensity of that series was really really something to behold and i You know even the vegas Minnesota series vegas good. But i've really been impressed with what i've seen from minnesota You know spunky team obviously You know not Don't they don't have enough in in their on their roster to be a true contender or anything like that but but they you know they have a lot of spunk man and that Carol crap captors off guy that's just amazing to watch and yes a lot of lot of good hockey they again it's it's It's a reminder to two people you know that there's a huge difference between regular season hockey and way off hockey man. It's just the intensity is ratcheted all the way up and you know every year you forget you forget just how much. Better the playoff Hockey is on the regular season until the playoffs. Start at You know when you get a chance To to check out some of these games do yourself a favor because they're really Really high intensity it's so true it's gotta be the biggest disparity between regular season and playoff games that we have in. You know at least the four major sports. But there's few things better than playoff hockey and going back to that minnesota series two from rangers fans perspective like myself and for you who who someone. Who's very familiar with the rangers over. The last few years is definitely a little bit of you. Know of rooting interest for guys like zuccarello and cam talbot of being on that team. So it's always it's always nice to see a little spunk at of that minnesota team too. But the you know a big hill to climb in that great vegas team. Yeah that's i mean. Vegas is one of the true heavy weights in the league along with colorado and and tampa bay and You know so yes. That is a tall task for for minnesota. But the team did make us last year you know and really has been rebuilding new With bill guarantee the general man there You know he's he's done. He's done quite a lot of Rebuilding around the was short time. Moving some some people out and bringing in some exciting people You know so. I think that's that's a team that you know could be Could be heard from a year or two no doubt about it no doubt about it especially if they keep coming along and like you said this caps off kid just jumps off the page as soon as you see him so a lot of fun going out there at west. But you've been covering the islanders for this first round so you know. What are your your early takes on this series. I know it's not so much early anymore. Four games into the seven game series. They've split the first four You know we've seen you know the good side and bad side of arm all off in net. We've seen really good stuff at a sarokin that they've put him in games one and four What are your feelings commodities. I four who You know what what major takes do you have from barry trotz decisions and everything from these first. Four games Well you know. I remember covering this islanders team against the penguins. Two years ago when they swept thing woods and I thought that time that was the beginning of the end for the penguins Any of the are two years later. And they're and their I in the east division. Which i think we all agree. It was probably the toughest division and lead this year So yeah so so You know what i've seen from. The islanders is I mean it's not surprising to me. Because i think that you know this is the same team. Basically mean what's what's really changed in the last two years. I mean you've got andy greene playing instead of johnny. Chuck and you know. They traded devante for for cap purposes. you know but you have no adopted in there. You know but more or less the same team that they've had. I mean you know this is this is an old fourteen is one of the old teams in the league if not the oldest and and they're super experienced and You know they. They know their style. They knew who they are. They played it who they are so. I'm not surprised When they win a game and when they beat the penguins. And i'm not surprised that it's to to You know it's the offs and and and you know every little decision you make you know can have huge repercussions and i and i think you know look. I was surprised that that trotz started sarokin in game. One you know my feeling was listening if Varlamov gotta be your your go to guy should probably started game one. And if he didn't start game one and and then sarokin started and played. Well and you want an overtime. I have stayed with sarokin and gain to and he did. Tha came back with of and he gave up that awful awful goal. Three minutes in But then you know bounce back and made tatas saves And then so now. What you've done is you've given yourself kind of a goalie dilemma. Like you know. Who do. I play next. And he went with and that you know maybe didn't work out quite as well. Now he's back with sarokin and i guess he'll go stay with sarokin for a little while So you know. I i don't know what You know what what. I can tell you in terms of impressions that i have team. Looks like you know that second line with with brock nelson mobilia daily They seem to be the the line that is emerging. I mean we all knew about their fourth line right and we all know about barzal right and we all know about John gabriel pageau. And what he can do and does so many things and that third line is a is a third line to keep an eye on. But it's really the second line with With nelson and beauvillier and daily The probably gets the least sort of You know inc in terms of a newspaper You know the. There's just nothing that stands out about them and yet I think You know they're kind of showing Themselves to be a line to be reckoned with. they're playing a lot against it crosby. Although every every line. I think gets a piece of crosby i mean you know. They've changed it up Barry changes up matchups And he puts the fourth line out against any puts the third line up against them but but brock nelson has seen sidney crosby and so they're obviously doing a job at the defensive and there too so that is Probably if if if anything and again. It's not a surprise because you know we know this team so well but That's probably the one thing that's coming out of this. That's maybe it wasn't You know it was. It was far down on my list of things to watch for. You know what i mean. I agree i agree. And josh bailey. Is one of those guys that always stands out to me and i just feel like he does everything right and is just very under appreciated player and is really one of the guys on that line that really keeps going You know he's a he's a. He's a cerebral player. Because i don't wanna put up on a pedestal or anything like that. But he's just a really smart player. any any a you know he he makes time with no doubt about it and i also think to one of the things we've seen at least early on in the series The you know. Lou lamoriello going out and picking up a guy like paul mary. Who has that playoff. Experience can come out and stepped right in the lineup and contribute in a big way you know. He's scored the two goals in that first game And he's he's constantly in the mix he was involved in that big melee. They had in a game three the first calcium So there's a lot of emotions and everything a lot going on this series right now You know especially back to those tense moments too. I heard Coming out of the The the press conference today and yesterday that the penguins coach mike sullivan was really complaining about the referees. Make not making calls and and you know it seemingly inferring that they were favoring the islanders What do you. What do you think about that. I mean especially most fans even casual fans would say that the penguins get more calls than any team going back to crosby and all that what. What do you think about their coach. Coming out and publicly complaining. Chastising the referees. Yeah you know. I i you know that surprises me to be honest with you but I i don't. I don't really. I don't have a negative feeling anything about that. I mean he's probably right. I mean i- i- owners. The islanders are team that that is not actually Heavily penalized team. I think they. I you know off the top of my head. I think i remember reading somewhere or hearing somewhere that that they've allowed. The fewest power plays in the league. You know in the regular season take penalties generally speaking and you know and their penalty kill is is usually pretty good so So the fact that they haven't penguins haven't had a lot of power plays Is not something. I don't think that kind of you know strikes me as particularly weird or anything like that I don't know the physical I i don't know. I haven't seen anything You know that i'm watching. That should have been a penalty and it was But i you know. I would think if you're the penguins. Yes you would. You would like tighter game called right because you're the team with the good power play and you're the team of crosby and malkin tang and all these guys so You know you want to have more power. Plays and know. The islanders are the heavy team that you know that bangs bodies and stuff and And so yeah. I mean you know that would protect you your guys. If if the if the referees call more penalties and called specifically called more penalties against the albums. I don't you know i have. It has occurred to me that the others have done anything to warrant being penalized more heavily than they've been so i'm actually a little bit surprised to hear that my soul event is is is saying those things and after quite frankly after Game three with that crazy. You know sequence where all ten skaters on the ice Were sent to the box It didn't sound. Like mike sullivan was was terribly upset by that. You just said listen. That's just playoff hockey. You know with all that stuff that went on So i i you know i. I can't i can't say i'm going to agree with my soul on the on the on that call but i understand it. I understand what he's trying to do. He's trying to tell the referees to you know. Try to put on a bug on the referees year and you know and maybe see if that that will work for him in game five and pittsburgh exactly just put that little thought in their head because even if it makes one call go their way was worth him. Good his way to say it. So it's just a case of coach sticking up for his his team during the playoffs. And you know with with with these coaches to its. We got two coaches in this series with stanley cup resumes. Two teams that have extensive. Playoff resumes themselves You know now. We're through four games. We got the best of three really for these next three. Who who do you got coming out of the series you know i picked you. Know at the start of the series. I picked the islanders to win And it really was a simple as you know. I liked the islanders goaltending a lot better than i did. the pit. the penguins call tending I don't think tristen jerry's been awful You know he won. You know game game. Two to one So you know. He's he's made enough saves and stuff but he you know he wasn't great in game one and i don't. He was great in game for the games. That you know pittsburgh loss and ultimately i think that You looked at his numbers in the regular season and they didn't stack up with the islanders. All these numbers. So i felt like had an engine goal and i you know for that reason. I picked the islanders in my official pick from for the paper was islanders and six and still. I'm still alive for that to happen. You know it's too too and if you there's when the next two obviously then it would play out that way. So i'm gonna stick with that pick for now. I'm going to say islanders And again i'm gonna say mostly the thing that down to for me is a the is a better goal tending. Even you know involves you know you know his His numbers and i couldn't series obviously Yeah that one bad goal. The terrible goal in in in game one but but he stopped forty three out of four or five shots in game. Two I mean Any you know he wasn't great game three But i have a feel like if he has to come back in at some point. For whatever the reason i think I still think you know on his on his worst as better than trysted. Jerry i totally agree and just the fact that they have sarokin who's playing very well now and ramallah who just like you said. Just he stopped forty three and forty five shots in game two and really that third period. He stood on his head to keep that one goal game. He led in the once-off goal. Which i totally agree with. You was a a very you know. It must be infuriating coal if you're an islanders fan to watch but he kept them in in that third period and had that bed the bed game three but it's to two right now and i do agree with you. I'm taking the islanders in this series. I think it's but but i do think it's going to go seven. I think the series has seven written all over it right now because even if pittsburgh goes down i think they still got one last right hook left in them and you know that's a it's you know you can't argue either way. It's going to be a great finish to the series but But you know before. I let you get out of here. Colleagues i really appreciate you. Spending here The your sunday evening here. And i'm sorry to interrupt you watching the knick game with yourself all right but Well the way it's looking right now we might have overtime so you might miss the whole thing and so i want to touch on the rangers. You know you're one of the guys that that covers the rangers. I always love going your twitter and seeing your take on them and your and you and everything that you have to write about them as well you know so on this date. Actually three years ago was day. The rangers higher. David quinn where we at right now when the rangers head coach search obviously couple of weeks ago. They fired gordon. They fired a john davidson. So they promoted. Chris jury to volt those positions team president and general manager. Where where are we at right now in this head coach search. I think at this point there. we're still early in the process rate because chris jewelry is Is general manager for a team. Usa in the world championships in the world championship championships are happening right now. So i don't think he's going to do anything or can do anything until at least after that's over You know he's been reported that he's he's you got permission to speak to your galant Who is i guess still under Contract to vegas but go on was Or is the the coach of canada for the world championships and so i think they wanted to to get that. Process started before the world championship. So he you know he got permission to speak to galant. I presume that they've at least spoken. you know preliminarily. It's also reported that he's He had an interview lined up with rick. Talking it You know talk. It is is Is apparently up for the seattle cracking job as well The the expansion seattle crack. And so i think the rangers wanted to get in there and and You know and spend some time with talking as well. There are other people that that You know chris jury is gonna wanna talk to you so I don't know that he's going to be able to do that during the world championships because he's gonna be like. I hope tied up with the world championship stuff. Because you know we want the us to do well right so but they're you know the names that have been have been out there. I mean they're all experienced guys. I mean this is the three years ago. They were looking for But you know a college coach. Somebody like that. Who could who could Teach the young guys that they knew they would be coming into the program over the next Couple of years or three years and it turned out but now i think they're in a different stage of their rebuilt and it appears that they want a more experienced guy. Maybe a you know a tougher. You know a guy or a guy you know. teaches a tougher game And mostly they're guys you know household mates that you've heard me talk it and go on to You know john todarello certainly would have to be the mix there and Bob hartley Who i believe coach was the coach who coached chris. Jewelry in colorado. And wanna come with you re on the roster that's in So he's he's out there he's Actually coached in in the h. All this season and won the championship there and he is Currently coaching Team latvia in the world championships as well. So you know he's another guy that will get a look. I've seen Seed patrick ause name Which would make some sense And so you know. They're they're a bunch of names out there. That are very familiar to do a lot of hockey fans You know and and that's kind of you know it's going to be one of those guys. It's you know wherever gets a child. It's it's not to be a guy that you you know you're going to be shaking your head. Saint louis guy you know. It's going to be somebody you've heard of before. I totally agree with that. The guy that jumps off to me is is john tortorella really. I was always a fan of torts. it always Really upset me when the rangers you know fired him. A few years back After the the twelfth thirteen season I would love to see toward brought back but you know. I'm comfortable with any decision that that jury makes i would love to see bob. Hartley come in so it's a. It's a really interesting mixed. They have because it's just like you said David quinn was a nice guy. I don't know if necessarily deserve to be fired this year. If it was me. I might have given him another year to see if he can do it. But the the rangers are in when you know when now mode and if you're in win now mode you don't want it. You know a coach in his first playoff game. You want a guy that's been there and has done it and knows how to lead these these young men to that You know to to the playoffs in and through the playoffs. And i think you'd probably also want to meet the owners Know we're gonna gonna make the older happy with you right so Very true very true. Not necessarily that That it's you know that the owner is going gonna make the call but I think Wherever you want. I r- you're going to have to present him to the owner. The owner is gonna say yeah. Okay we can work with that now. You know now that you mentioned the owner. Do you think that he made the right call in getting rid of pretty much everybody at the top or or would you have let it play out. Another year I you know. Listen i don't i mean he he was he did an interview with another publication. And i read that in all of the move you know. If you're asking my opinion. I i don't i thought the movie was a little impulsive But he has a right to do that right. It's his team And and he hires people and pay them a lot of money and if he wants to fire people and our somebody else that's his prerogative I think You know the timing was certainly weird to to fire. The the president general manager with three games left in the regular season and on actually on a game day Seem seem a little. You know Different You know is it. Was it the right move You know i don't. It's not to say. I mean you know that that'll you know what happens after this. We'll we'll determine that Would i have done it. no. I wouldn't have done it but you know i'm not i'm not james dolan so You know he has the the right to do that if he if he wishes. And you know listen. All of these guys are in a business where they understand that They can get fired at any time. And that's just kinda nature of the business. They're all okay. I mean john davidson You know was out of work for like two weeks. I think in the end up getting his old job back in columbus And as it happens. I think david win. I don't know i would imagine. David cornel be a candidate for coach too so he might be a candidate for that job as well not necessarily gonna get it. I don't. I'm not saying that he will. But you know i. I think those guys will be the guys. Jeff gordon and david quaint. I think we'll be okay. I think they're they're they're going to work again. So it's I think at the end of the day. It's you know something that The owner decided needed to happen when it did and You know now the. The pressure is on christopher rita to find the right guy you know and to get the rangers to take the next step. Yeah that's very true very true. And and one last thing. Before i let you go. You know the rangers are going to have a little bit of catherine coming up this summer. you know. A lot of people are obviously the jack eichel speculations from buffalo. We've heard matthew. Chuck brought up from calgary. Plenty of different names of popped up over the course of the last couple of weeks from from ranger fans even alexander barkov from done and florida's name is being brought up. I don't know how realistic that is. But if you were thinking if the ranges are going big fish hunting this off season is there any name that pops out as more realistic than any of the others. We've brought up. I don't know realistic You know. I'm not quite sure if the names you mentioned right. There's two shocks and You know certainly would love to have one of those guys. In fact true one of those guys is exactly what i think they would want to add to the mix it they have current they want. They want a big forward Who plays on the edge lose physical and you know and and can play as well and that's a ca- chuck's right so If you could get one of those guys and you know of course that that would be that would be ideal but i. I don't know. I don't know that either one of those guys is gonna you know. Just calgary we you know who would want to trade a ca- chuck. I mean i don't. I don't really understand the how that would be possible. I don't. I don't see that now. The jack eichel things is a different thing. I mean i. I think that he is unhappy. And i think he wants to leave. And you know some point. Buffalo is going to have to look into that so i mean the you know he's out there and he's he's potentially gettable but if you're the rangers i think you know this is a guy who's you know we actually haven't had surgery but he you know he missed most of the season with a neck injury and you know You know what's it gonna cost you to get him and you know we have to give up I'm i'm not. I'm not so sure that this is the right fit. And if you gotta go after him. Why would you fire his college. Talk played played for dave quinn. If you were going to you know you're bound and determined to go get jack eichel. You could've kept data quinn so i don't I don't know i don't know again. How realistic that is If you're buffalo. Do you wanna trade jack eichel to the new york rangers or would you prefer to trade him out west somewhere. You know where you don't have to see him twice a year So i don't. I don't know how realistic it is for them to get any of them but You know. I think you know what they have to do. Is they have to find somebody. somewhere you know who can play forward and he's going to play more of a straight line game and go to the net and and it was going to hit people and my dropped gloves on occasion so if you can find that guy you know if you can find a you know a tom. Wilson look alike. You know and i know it's almost as name is is mont around rangers. town If you could find that guy I think that's that's a guy that every team is looking for it and if they can find some kind of approximation of that guy. I think that's what they're going to get. Yes yes very true. And if and if that guy could happen to win faceoffs too. That'd be the cherry on top jerry on topic exactly right. Well colin stevenson. I want thank you very much for taking timing your sunday night to spend with me tonight token a little hockey. If you wanna follow call you could follow him on twitter at colin s newsday. Thanks again and have a great night. This my pleasure. Thanks for having me go. Dick's right you got that right down a one. But that doesn't mean the series is over all right all right with you have a good one colin. All right i now and we're gonna take our first break. The daily doesn't gentlemen and we'll back. Thanks for sticking around. You're listening to sports. Talk in new york tune in every sunday night at eight. Pm on long island wgn broadcasting on ninety five point nine fm and twelve forty am or and live online at w. gb radio dot com. Stay connected the sports dot new york on w. gb bipolar us on facebook twitter and instagram gb. Sports you're listening to sportstalk new york on long island's gb now back to the show and that's rallies and gentlemen welcome back once again on sports. Talk twelve four sports. Talk new york. I'm sorry about that. Old habits die hard sports. Talk new york right here and w. g. b. b. long island's radio station wanna thank once again colin stevenson for joining me. Here had a great conversation with him about hockey in the first half the show. We're gonna be talking about a lot of other stuff but right now i just wanna get into a The day in sports history this day in sports history on may twenty third nineteen forty eight joe dimaggio homers and three consecutive at-bats including two of hall. Famer bob feller as the yankees beat cleveland. Six five in the first half of a doubleheader on this day may twenty third nineteen eighty-one the new york islanders celebrated less than twenty four hours after winning their second straight stanley cup championship with a parade on hempstead turnpike in nassau. County with a turnout. Over thirty thousand people that stretched over a mile long dot have said turnpike may twenty third nineteen ninety seven after a wing gretzky hatrick propelled the rangers to a five four win in the previous game. The rangers grab game for the eastern conference final at madison square garden on a late. Eric lindros power play goal. They lose that game three two they would drop that series in five and finally on this day may twenty third nineteen ninety eight after being acquired from the mets in a blockbuster trade the day before mike piazza makes his mets debut. Against the brewers at shea stadium go one for four with a double of jeff juden as allied and the mets win. The game as lighter throws a four hit shutout in the mets win. Three nothing at shea stadium and that leaves and gentleman is this day in sports history while such a great time so far as You know they had there. Had to be a little bit of rain on the parade. Though yesterday we got a A nets win in the playoffs. Against sin as the nets took their first game they had up and down first half they. Won't they really running away with it in the second half It was only the ninth time all season that hardened durant and kyrie irving were on the court for the same game which is just a stonning really and you think about it but the The nets came up. They beat boston yesterday. But the knicks in their first playoff action. In eight years as coun- stevenson said he was watching it with his son was sitting here watching it in the studio many others. Were just like me sitting home. Watching the knicks play their first game the first playoff game in over eight years You know they took a one zero seven one zero five lost. The garden really had a couple of chances to put this game away late. Just could not do it You had some standout performers of but is it also really struggled like julius randle. I playoff games. A nick did not look good at twenty three from the field fifteen points. He had twelve rebounds but him and barrett barrett six fifteen so not as bad but fourteen points one assist bounds. Really not a good from the guys who the knicks have really been leaning on coming down this stretch here. The stretch run that were. The knicks really played well and a lot of people said the second half was going to be hard for the next they. They ratcheted their games up quite a bit going down the stretch there and just couldn't get done this one though You know alec burks though. Great job off the bench. Twenty seven points four assists three rebounds nine to thirteen from the field. Derrick rose played thirty seven minutes off the bench. Seventeen points five assists. Five rebounds quickly got a lot of action. Taj gibson was in their lot. Ob topping was in real good Elfrid peyton you know. I don't even know why he starting at this point no disrespect elfrid payton a very good player. Very good defensive player But he only played eight minutes in this game and then they let the guards. Just take over from there. Outbursts really stole the show. And you can't take anything away. From derrick rose reggie bullock. Look pretty good. The his only three for nine got eighteen minutes nerlens noel. That guy just keeps coming place. Six points three rebounds at twenty three minutes two or three from the field so the the the next thing that really sunk the next two was early on. They just could not shoot the ball. They were seven for twenty three in the first quarter Down twenty four sixteen. They ended up really started hot in the second quarter hitting seven of their first nine shots. They have winning that second quarter. Thirty four twenty eight. They won the third quarter as well. But they fell apart in the fourth quarter. They allowed thirty six points after only allowing nineteen in the third so almost exactly double and that's causing the game a late shot by trae Young who has given it to the knicks crowd is giving it to the knicks faithful. He had thirty two points. Ten assists seven rebounds is star You look at that. Look at his first. Playoff start compared to rj barrett. To you know it's definitely it was a slam dunk that That trae young had his That he had the better night. No doubt about it but rj barry on the knicks. There's still gonna have a chance to come back best seven. This isn't like the old days where it was best to five. Then the knicks still have a chance they they really had the jitters and it was amazing to see a jam packed madison square garden The people were going nuts. There were really giving it to trae young gifted and it's kind of annoying because they gave trae young all the motivation to shove it down their throat when they're starting with an f trae young chan and That definitely didn't go over well with him but unfortunately it you know possibly motivated him in the last thing you wanna do for a guy with trae. Young talent is give him extra motivation to beat you because he is just a hell of a player. And you know you the knicks state in. They're literally they didn't lose this game until were point. Nine seconds left. They still had a shot to get the ball to julius to get the last shot off didn't fall So it was a tough way to lose You know especially when the knicks it looked like a couple of times they'd put it away. You know a couple of times they were up three one hundred. They blew that there are five one three. They blew that They they just getting an emotion where you started thinking yourself. But they're going to be able to pull away and just weren't able to to to seal the deal this time around unfortunately for the for the next day but you know what liquid said earlier. There's a seven game series. They had to get the jitters out of there. I mean not mentioned to. This is the first time they've played in front of a jam-packed building much less a playoff game. I'm in probably over a year. I mean as a good fourteen fifteen months since the last time. The knicks played in front of eighteen thousand madison square garden. You know the juices were flowing. You know you know everything was You know especially for guy. Like rj barry rj. Barry tonight became the youngest knick player to ever start a playoff game twenty years old iman shumpert back in. Twenty twelve was the The youngest until tonight he was twenty one. So you know are a really you know. He's just a young kid and he's getting his first playoff action. A lot of these guys. It was great to see quickly out. There quickly had a good presence. You know you could tell when quickly and top in and rose and that that second unit were out there that's when that's what really got them back in the game and it's funny too because as soon as they made the switch at the beginning of the second quarter because randall play the entire first quarter. So i think they were trying to ride their horses a little bit too much you know. Randall deserves to. He had a hell of a season. Anytime you come out there and you average twenty four points. Ten rebounds and six assists in a game which hadn't been done by the nixon over thirty years close closer to foreign Think since the eighty two season they said i think it was. You know i think it was eighty two. So it's been a really long time since the knicks have had anybody with approaching. Those numbers. You just have to say okay. Game two is right around the corner. You just gotta reset and hope that julius can reset and this doesn't start putting more pressure on him standing rj And you just gotta hope that they go out there and get the job done in game two because tiptoe. Tom typical is a great coach. He had this team You know it's unlike a typical team to go out there and give up almost forty points in a quarter much less than the fourth quarter where they really clamped down. So you know. Typical is really going to knock that into their heads over the next couple of days until wednesday night's game and that's also at the garden so the knicks. Still chances with that. I too if they could get that second game which you know. This is the first game that they've lost to atlanta all season. The next being the four seed. The hawks being the five seed. They both finished forty one. Thirty one Both very good you know an nba teams at at the records in the way. They've played this season the nixon to having the better record against the hawks that wasn't even the The tiebreaker the tiebreaker was the fact the knicks of the better conference record all so the knicks got the nod As the four seed and miami felon at six these guys on at five. So miami was right on the next heels until they ended up losing that list game to finish forty and thirty two instead of forty one thirty one like the other two so it was a tight race down to the end The next ended up getting the nod. And i just got to hope that tom thibodeau rallies his troops and they come back even stronger in game two. And that's the test the knicks now. Are they going to be a team. That rolls over. They hadn't been all season. This is gonna team that they've lost so many heartbreaker this year. The a right hook. Like i was saying earlier A about the islanders series to to count stevenson You know the the the islanders in the penguins. They have delivered right hooks and taken them and kept going through throughout the series in the in the playoffs. That's how a playoff series. You gotta be able to take one and keep rolling. And that's the knicks are right now you just took. He took a tough one. Trae young put a dagger through your heart where it looked like the old do was make one more defensive stop. And either the knicks have a to win it at the buzzer or they were going to have a chance to take it to overtime and also reset in overtime in. Okay you had a rough fourth quarter but guess what we held it down into overtime and now we have a shot to win it. 'cause the knicks have been pretty good in overtime this year but didn't get tonight as As trae young put the hammer down. And that was the end of it for the knickerbockers tonight. got come back wednesday night in big fashion because that was a disappointing way to to send eighteen thousand people home and the couple million people probably around the new york area who've had been playoff starved for years years and years. I mean the last time. The knicks had a playoff game was two thousand twelve And you know this was a april. Two dozen twelve With carmelo anthony. Jr smith and all those guys on that team iman shumpert. Like i mentioned earlier guys. Who as nick vins. It feels like decades since these two guys have been on your team. And that's the most recent playoff games you can hear. I mean there are probably kids. You know if you're ten to twelve year old kid you don't remember two thousand twelve you know. That's that's not in your memory. So these are the first nick playoff memories that you're getting so if you're if you're older guy like me you know you. You have been through the knicks ringer. Before i grew up with nixon the nineties and that defensive style you know. This was the first time since ninety two ninety three. The knicks have had the best defense in the league. The best defense. A block blocking threes in the league and You know opposition just really not having an easy time against this tight nick defense and who would have thought you know a year or two ago at this time. We'd be talking about that tight knicks defense well. The knicks defense has been title year. But it really really loosened up in that third in that fourth quarter where they got out thirty six thirty two and it was just enough to beat them. If it was thirty four. Thirty two they'd be in overtime. It was thirty two to thirty the knicks. Win this game. And we're not talking about this right now but right now in disappointing fashion. They're down. oh one don't now don't get it messed up. don't get it twisted it. Next looseness games disappointment. You can't come in here. As a four seed have home-court have a lead in the fourth quarter and blow it multiple times especially at the buzzer like that and just letting trae young walking on the pain and put that ball in there. So it's definitely disappointing. You can't sit here and say they're playing house money. You can't sit here and say that is the first playoff game is that you're the four seed and you just lost the fight game one either way. It's not a good look either way. Both teams have had a playoff drought. So you know. They're both on evil eye on unequal footing. And you just gotta hope that there but the put it past them in the pressure doesn't begin to mount in game two expect it to. I think typical is going to keep them loose. Keep them focused and keep them ready for this pivotal game. Two now and you know normally if you listen to me on w. g. b. as i've been doing sports talk new york and my podcast and everything like that coffee or kramer if you wanna check that out on apple and specifying on youtube everywhere else you can find podcast but if you you do listen to me you know that my my expertise if you will my main interest. My favorite sport is baseball. And right now we got the. I mean i'll touch on the yankees real quick too because the yankees have been just a house a fire lately ever since they you know. The the last time i was on we were talking about how the yankees were off to their worst start since nineteen ninety one year the yankees lost ninety plus games which hasn't happened very often over the last forty or fifty years but the yankees have just been completely on a tear there now Currently sitting a half game at first place the mets really got the raise rolling. Unfortunately for them as the mets got swept three straight. Now the raise ten game winning streak but boston and tampa bay both at twenty nine and nineteen the yankees twenty eight and nineteen and The yankees have won eight of their last. Ten tenth. Bay has one tentative. Last ten and buses won seven of their last ten so and don't forget about toronto. Who's four and a half back. They've lost five in a row Starting to struggle a little bit but a toronto is going to be hanging in there and this looks like know it looks like the the american league east has really done a great job of catching up this year. A lot of teams and a lot of people really didn't think much of the american league specifically the red sox to everybody carried out the red sox people discount including myself. I thought the raise. We're going to take a major step back this year after they traded a blake snow to To to to san diego season they also just traded their starting starting shortstop william demos. They traded him to the brewers for couple of prospects. And you know there must be something tampa bay season these prospects because it seems like whoever they go out and get these guys ended up coming up big and don't forget that randy arose arena. Who was postseason hero for them. Last year he still come up and he's been leading off them. This year and playing great baseball was just a a deal in january that nobody linked at. Nobody thought twice about so whenever they're raised. Go out and get guys like that. It's always for a reason so they just had a couple of prospects coming up. They brought up one of their guys. Obviously wonder racists still hanging out there in their minor leagues near tripoli. He's gonna be on. I'm sorry i'll wander. Franko is going to be coming up soon at some point in the next you know if by the end of the year no doubt about it. Probably before the all star break and He's knocking on the door. So they're going to really have to sort of valuating which guys they want. Keep which guys are expandable to them they. They decided that a very good player. And william dennis Was just not worth keeping for them not They decided to turn him into a couple of of arms e couple of young arms to so the tampa bay. Oh always a dangerous team be reckoned with. Who would have thought a ten game winning streak right now. The only thing keeping the yankees at second place and the yankees went out and they've been doing damage lately you know. They had been beating up on a couple of the lesser teams like corey kluber through no hitter against the rangers which by the way to anybody that sneezes or discounts or tries to make it seem less than that. Corey kluber no hitter. You know what you're talking about because the rangers might not be a great team and it may have been the second time that they got no hit this year just like the other two teams who've been no hit twice in six no hitters this year against three teams Which is just really astounding when you think about it but The you know the the keys went out there now and took out the white sox to tony larussa and his team finally going through the wringer They got punched them out this weekend. By the yankees getting dominated yesterday by coal chapman. Getting the wind today and You know the on an actually on friday to chapman got the win so chapman as really been coming up. Big for the yankees the yankees. Just playing like you'd expect them to this what yankees Are paid to win. This is a a high payroll club. This is a team that you know has been that they got luc. Voight back recently You know looks like a shell been hitting in the middle of the lineup. He's been there. Judge has been doing good. They they obviously just lost. Jean carlos stanton but they're gonna come back around that and You know as one team is relatively healthy and doing well. There's another team in new york. Who's still in first place. Twenty one and nineteen forty games. Where just about a quarter of the way through the season as the new york mets. Just keep adding to that injured list as listened to the the twenty one thousand nine like i said there is still a game and a half up in their division. They have a four-game series coming up with colorado. Who been this year. So there's every chance in the world that on thursday afternoon we're talking about the twenty five and nineteen still first place new york mets even with all the injuries they have but a lot has to go right between now and then for that to have. The rockies is still a major league team and not to be taken lightly but a couple of good things in the horizon. Jacob degrom who was one of the sixteen yes. That's right i incident. I didn't say that wrong. Sixteen new york mets currently on the injured list of the twenty six players. They started the year with the listen. This list p lonzo. Tommy hunter taiwan walker jacob. Degrom michael conforto jeff mcneil. Jd davis brandon. Nimmo kevin pillar alberto l. Mara louise he army dylan betances. Jose martinez calls carrasco seth lugo and noah syndergaard all on the d. l. or the i l. right now used to be disabled list. Now they call the injured list But you know. Allies guys are due to come back. I mean jacob. Degrom is going to be ready to come back at some point this week. i believe. They said he's went up for tuesday right. Now against colorado taiwan walker was only supposed to miss one one start so there's a chance that he comes back either this weekend or maybe early next week Jeff mcneil and conforto. Nobody really knows yet Those guys are both had hamstring trouble. they're talking about. It's very similar to what robbie casino went through and twenty nineteen So they could miss anywhere from two weeks to a month so who knows. You know pete alonso just got put on the injured list the ten day. I l a couple of days ago where it stems from him. Getting hit on the wrist with a pigeon. Saint louis couple of weeks back where he hasn't looked right since then. So maybe it'll be good for him to go a couple of weeks. Tommy hunter another woman. One of these guys with right side tightness Jd davis is on a rehab assignment. Right now in syracuse. Which is the mets triple eighteen. But even he was scratched from the lineup. Today because he had neck pain kevin. Pilar had that just awful awful hit to the he got hit in the face. By a pitch and ninety five on our fastball. Shattered his nose in the field. There was blood everywhere Just really really terrible injury. Luckily he's had reconstructive surgery on his face since then and knowing this guy pa- being gamer he has it wouldn't surprise me if he's due to be cleared to resume baseball activities in in the next week or so and he could be back on the field the in a couple of weeks so it's always nice when you have a guy like that. On the team you know brandon. Nimmo still suffering ill effects from his injured finger Albor borough amora had the big concussion. Race slammed into centerfield in city field You know a lot of these guys also to. Maybe your may be back soon. Seth lugo and noah syndergaard both on rehab assignments right now in the minor leagues syndergaard. Actually today he made his first start In single a. this past week the day before the grand pitched now he's due to be moved up from single eight aaa so his next will be down there. He's going to be trying to get his velocity back and get himself into a shot but he was hitting ninety four ninety five on the gun in his first start his first time facing live hitters a mound in a since march of twenty twenty before he had to have tommy john surgery. So it'd be nice to see noah syndergaard back out there facing live hitters again and set lugo to on the mend so the michigan be getting guys back. It's a it's just a matter of after losing a tough game on saturday A three one loss a walk off home run from garrett cooper of of drew smith You know then they had Today they had the cuff laws where they just really weren't in it. At all jordan moto gave up five runs in the second inning. They lost the game. Five one know these bags only do so much. Cameron maven doesn't look too good out there so They they're going to have to have some answers and these they call them the bench mob and they have these other guys to. They're calling the bench. Mahbub the bench mob so someone on the bench mob is going to have to keep stepping up is going to have to be a different person every day for the most part as the cast is then for the mets but You know ladies and gentlemen were coming to the end here as i make my final lap here on sports. Talk new york right here in w. g. b. b. You know talked a lot tonight about the The hockey in the first half the show had a lot of fun with colin stevenson. I want to thank him again for joining me on this show. If you wanna follow colin go on your twitter account you could check them out at colin as newsday always good follow. He's always keeping tabs on the islanders for as long as they are around in the playoffs and he's always giving info on the rangers as it comes in in regards to their coach and everything like that so far so give colin of follow. Don't forget to follow me on twitter. At kramer new york kramer my last name and ny and follow all of our counselor w gbd's. 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Playoff Predictions, Eichel Predictions, and Coaching Carousels

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Playoff Predictions, Eichel Predictions, and Coaching Carousels

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So we'll We'll for sure. Talk about a bit of the speculation there And then right. Before playoff matchups we are going to talk about the surprisingly good and surprisingly bad teams of the season so Just embiid how you doing. Man i'm doing are a. It's pretty funny. Actually when you were saying that the island has made the playoffs. Like you were salivating at the mouth like you were just itching to get your jaws into The penguins you know you're penguin killer Yeah i'm excited to watch some playoff hockey there. There's a lot of good series and there's a lot of serious that i'm ready to see us. Some teams get pummeled. So yeah yeah. I mean honestly i don't i don't dislike or that's a lie i dislike maybe like three teams that are in the playoffs this year. So the rest. I like for good for like you know reasonable amount There's several teams that. I'm rooting for us. So i'm kind of looking forward to this year's playoffs a salat. 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I got caught on the expressway. There was a lot of traffic coming east. I guess two weekends of people are coming out east but be i think i got there around like five thirty. Yeah yeah so we definitely split up but hey you know what. We'll make it a point next week. We'll meet up at the same time. Let me know when you're coming in you. Get off the highway and i'll come up. Sounds good So i'm drinking I've had one of their beers before. equilibrium brewing company or brewery. This is a double i pay it's called fluctuation in eight one dawson pretty good This is only the second beer that have had from equilibrium. No i'm sorry. I think it's my it's my third and they all three really good. I think they're in middletown. Upstate yasser our new middletown new york. So they're a little bit. I think only like an hour or so north of the city there like an hour north of the city. I think not too bad. It's pretty good. It's solid definitely always it. Was it this week before where i sent you. 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No i was just going to make a really bad joke never mind. I'm glad i didn't say it. Saves you and editing shop. Glad our Our internet has came in handy for me in the editing process. Any as i was saying a lot of hockey to talk about so real quick hardcore song of the week. What do you got for us. So keep an local long island I got the song actually both have long. Island pants I've the spent hangman and their song one mistake and their most popular song But it's a good way to get into them to fund song. They're kinda like traditional new york hardcore sounding Yeah they're on every bill. That's in the mike area and I think after seeing that many times i was like oh you know. They're pretty freaking good. you know. so but Yeah so. I got into them. They're pretty good and Yeah give it a listen melissa. No bad benedetta band especially from long island As you mentioned though. I kept the local to Long boston because i think some of their members are from boston but bankole typecast with uncle season. Change dope-ban really fun. Listen then again day. Play all these local shows how we go to so I think i've seen him a couple of times now at this point in they're always a good time fonda mosh tive so a little heavier sites definitely be prepared for that berta prepared with that baby. Yeah for real. If you're if you're listening that i suggest yeah without a doubt. So are we ready to do now yet. Isn't that is Degeneration axe from a wwe. I was obsessed with them. Dude i love yes. I know they were awesome. I watched every single like youtube compilation of from back in like. I don't even know when we were like elementary school middle school. I watch literally any video. There had to be of them yemen. They were pretty fire honestly but anyway. So yeah. speaking of degeneration. The amount of coaches in the league has degenerated the past week or so was such a bad joke. Oh that's a good one. That was terrible anyway. So adding to the chaos on broadway from last week. Be rangers fired david quinn which was only a matter of time. I'm not shocked but it also did it kind of shocked me to a degree. If that makes sense you know. Yeah i mean after after what happened with you know their gm and president. Like i feel like it was to be expected that their head coach at pretty much their entire coaching staff would go Just because i don't feel it gives like their entire organization like a fresh start. Yeah and i think that's definitely what they While i was gonna say what they need. It's definitely not what they like should've needed but it's kind of the position. They put themselves into any no. I wonder who they bring in. Honestly you know. I'm there's going to be like a whole revolving door of coaches again. This offseason so Sibling me interesting. I mean whoever inherits the job you know they got some star power and they got some younger players and Honestly that's the perfect building blocks for team especially as the team gets older As the as i even next year they'll get older and they'll get more experienced than be better grow. Laugh rene is still going to grow Kako still going to grow. They looked like they started stepping into their own. As the season went on Perrin was missing for a chunk of it. And you know. I don't know it's a. They're definitely still a huge leak citing team to watch now definitely agreed in a scary part is at the rangers. Aren't going to be going anywhere. So whoever this guy is saying. I mean you know he's gonna have to be a guy that that's going to be able to get the best out of him you know 'cause you have a lot of young guys. A lot of not necessarily rookies anymore. But still it's still youthful guide. So you're gonna have to get them playing better than they are now to playing together and they're probably going to start making some noise next season i'd imagine and i mean i don't know how bad their draft picks gonna look like you know But shouldn't be too bad of a draft pick so it'll be interesting to see if they were so you know it's it's a fresh start. Yeah i mean if the first overall pick man. I'm gonna chew glass. Well i don't think that's possible after their Adjustments day made. But i think it only comes into effect this year. So we'll have to wait and see hopefully ni- if they get the fucking first round. Pick again i or top three pick. I'd be beyond. I don't even know but yeah. Yeah i mean you're given given the fresh start. The coaches can be able to pick out his entire staff. So i think that's going to be pretty important for them to Pretty exciting news. If you're a ranger fan honestly kind of disappointed in it. Oh definitely especially with how good the rebuild was and it's like i don't know i mean we said it last week but it's like they were seen as the model rebuild you know in here they are the owners like. Oh yeah this is taking too long. It's like bro. what are you talking about. I like this team there rebuild when from bottom lalita rising two years. You know it's like what more do you want. You know it's not the nba and so with that being said you know Speaking of old ranger coaches like david. Quinn we gotta look at tortorella. In columbus in how columbus and tortorella have parted ways. They've mutually decided to do so. comes as no surprise. Anybody i think right. And not none to me i. I was I think Re right around when they made the trade. We pretty much all knew that towards was done. You know this was his last season. They're good for him that they didn't fire because honestly if i was at gm. I would've fucking fired him. I mean i'm sure he'll land on another team probably by next season. Yes definitely i mean. Twitter is one of those coaches. I feel like is this gonna have a job for a few more teams. You know i. I mean i don't think he's back. Coach is just sometimes you know he just doesn't mesh well. Anna sometimes just doesn't work out. I mean he was there for six years. So that's pretty decent amount of time especially in coaches coaches sense. You know in a lotta should happened in columbus. You know lot of drama. I mean in that six years. I mean they lost perrin. They lost Debris kit right know debrincat wasn't there. I'm sorry sod was there and they lost him again. Those few other players you know and it's just like i don't know how many times can you see that as a coach. You know without getting dejected. Yeah i mean probably a lot of things. That weren't even his fall. Happened there and you know some things that were so you know i it. He has a hard style. It's good to set up a team. I feel like. I feel like he could get a lot out of players when he initially starts. But after a while you kind of imposes will. I guess you could say a little too much little too hard and some people either you know. Learn to hate it or they or they learn to work with it and it's clear that that really wasn't working over columbus and you know maybe maybe an organization you know like buffalo. You know would really a coach like towards no him stepping in putting in a tough attitude like getting players. I in after years and years of misery. Now you have a head coach. That's tough and can actually more misery in. Yeah yeah more. Misery may be as far as i practised goes. But you're going to get more out of the players you know and you're going to get more of an effort out of your teammates next to you. So maybe some people would like that idea of him going to buffalo honestly in fact i just said i honestly really like that idea. If todarello goes to buffalo. I feel like it'd be good for the team on especially for younger team. If tortorella went to buffalo then he would be benching for the third period because he was on ice for a goal. That wasn't let's be real. You know what. I mean i mean. Tortorella has a notorious side for benching player for a whole period for. I don't want to say no reason but it's just like come on man you know. It's like the thing with me that that kind of pisses me off. Especially after the lion. Nature is how he was benching. Line afer making defensively irresponsible plays. But it's like that's not the kind of player line is line is a goal score. Who can pot you forty goals. He may not be the best defensively. But that's not his player type. That is okay. he's a sniper. he's a pure sniper. Let him be sniper and surround him players who are defensively responsible. Let him hover by the point guy. Let him take off. You know what i mean. It's like that's the kind of system you need to work with a player. Like patrick line and you know buffalo. I feel like he would do something similar with with michael and i don't know if goes even there. Well you know we're gonna talk about eichel next fresher but you know i agree with you and but the one reason why i think it's okay because i think that he like overstate is welcome in columbus. I feel like he was with those guys for too long. And he kinda got full of himself but like felt like he was just making moves because he knew what was best. I feel like going into a new environment. Maybe won't get away with it as much or at least in the beginning. It'll be like the honeymoon. Phase i'm speculating too. Hard for something. That might not even happen. But i don't know man. I feel like as a whole not maybe not jack eichel but outside of that who else is like a real goal scorer on that team so i feel like it would really benefit e sam. Reinhart the overall team may. He's not a goal scorer like that. Come on but he. He's still pretty good goal for. Are you still good player. He still et laser eye. Nobody it's not going to be the same. It's not going to be the same as like a patrick line a from fort night kid i. It's not it's not going to be like that you know because there aren't many players similar to you know how many i mean how many players are true snipers like patrick why you know i count on one hand. That's why i don't think the same. That's the only reason why. I don't think the same situation would happened there. I don't know what to see if it happens. I don't know i. I really don't see him not having a job next season i mean yeah you're not me but like then it's who who else because And i think you have here to coyotes. They they look over their head coach as well right. Yeah they also agreed to mutually part ways This one was kind of coming as well. Just because of how. Arizona has made noise. They're stuck in purgatory. They're kind of like how the wild where a few years ago. I'm honestly up until last year before career could breeze off came in. So you know it's unfortunate to see but hopefully the next coach coach can figure it out. John knock any tax man now but yeah. I mean that's a team that that's going to need some some real help. So i wonder who's going to step up their necks and be interesting to see what they can do within the next. Let's say three years. You know as a team. Yeah i agree with that so cool. Cool jack michael So this week. Jack eichel that for some reason. The drama never stops in buffalo for a city. That appears like it's dead. There's a lot of chatter always going on in buffalo. And so jackal was quoted. After he spoke the first time in a few months he said and i quote. I've been a bit upset about the way things have been handled. Since i've been hurt. The most important thing now is to get healthy and be ready to play hockey next year wherever that may be and that is jake's began and that's insanely interesting to me and everyone speculation. Eichel's out this has been the honestly the talks all week since that came out. I think it was monday that it came out. Everybody's been talking about like jack eichel in a playoffs and we're no different. I mean to be honest but you know you gotta feed into what the masses wanna but But it's really just been dominated by jack eichel and so let me let me start off our segment. We'll let me lay the groundwork so what we're going to be doing is we're going to be examining the three teams that people keep bringing up as trade destinations for jack eichel and and giving what we think could be potential tr- trade I guess traits. But my question. I wanted to ask you before we started any of this. Do you think that he actually gets traded in the season or does he start next year in buffalo. I feel like if buffalo is gonna make a move it has to be this off season. Or possibly you know the trade that i guess but For for jack sake and you know even for buffalo say because who knows what kind of player they're gonna get out of next year. I hope they do move them. You know and i I really hope he gets a fresh start and the team can move on from him. You know a mess up another kids career so so you of what am i question. Do you think that jackal gonna get traded in the offseason. It's going to be tough man. Only because of how much money he makes I wanna say yes. I want to say. Yes they somehow figured out. It's gonna be out to be a team with a lot of room But yeah i think. John i think a lot of teams are going to take a look at jack eichel. And there's a lot of teams with a lot of interest supposedly. So yeah i. I think they do get a deal done so the reason why i ask that is because i think that everybody thinks that the deal is going to get done and i'm not fully convinced that ideal is going to get done. I think that the asking price is going to be too high from buffalo. The asking price too high teams aren't gonna want to give up enough to what the buffalo thinks that chuckles worth. You know what i mean. I think that there's going to be a disconnect and it's going to be dragged out throughout the whole off season and then it's just gonna lead to a more strenuous to jack. Eichel like furthering. This whole drama circle that happens in buffalo. The past like couple of that has happened in buffalo the past couple years. You know i mean. We haven't seen a super. Patrick line is a superstar right. But i mean and sudan was one So kind is a super if you wanna consider him like that huge personality but he was in his prime You know there was no like big huge superstar dealer jack. Michael is a superstar. You know and it's like that doesn't happen often. And to see jack eichel get treated with like you mentioned his cap it his term and the amount of teams that don't have the cast base in this flat cap environment. I don't think that he will get traded in the off season. You know what i mean. Yeah i mean that that those are really great points. And that's honestly why i can only see him going with team. I'll say that my piece later on that but Yeah it's it's gonna be really tough and as you mentioned. The price is going to be high which is Which is what we got here for our For ideas of a trade. So you wanna get started on that. Yeah did you did you did you have like Different ones were or they probably similar. I mean i know we kind of discussed them. We discuss. it's going to be It's pretty much going to be similar. It's like a lot that they can do. yeah so Yeah so the teams that we that we narrowed it down to where the new york rangers the la kings the minnesota wild especially the new york rangers in la kings so for the rangers. Eichel's new home right Buffalo to broadway jack the cap eichel come into the big city playing with our perrin. I think this doesn't happen because the a big reason why i say that is because the rangers have come out and said that alexa lexi adam fox and capela kako or all untouchables. And i think that's where the talking points should be starting with jack eichel So this is a trade that we outlined and It's philip ito vitelle craft stuff. Neal's lunqvist a first and a second for For jack eichel and it's kind of difficult to gauge whether or not these trades actually work due to this not being. nhl twenty one and they're being a little trade bar at the bottom right so it's like you know it's kinda hard to judge whether or not the values there but i mean crafts off. I don't think he's going to be much more than a third line center. But they're line. Centers are important filipino. Line center The first and second those are self explanatory and kneels lung. Fists is defensive prospect in sweden or yes. He's in sweden right now. I believe And you know he's like near the top of the league for defensemen and like all advanced analytics. He's a good right handed defenseman who could be right under adam. Sorry adam. fox's on the rangers to be right next to rasmussen lean to balance out that top pair potentially I think that's a good trade. Especially if you're not gonna trade the untouchables. No you have a really good trade there. But the the one thing that i wanna take note of is again the cap space. It's it's all. The guys that are deemed untouchables. Probably wouldn't make a lot of senator anyway just because of cap space because those guys are they're making less than a million and you know you guys have about two million in space and you guys have a ton a ton of our face coming up next season like once guys that you wanna sign and then on top of that. You have disturbing. Who's going to be in our fa in the offseason. So you're gonna to want to give him some type of contract so i think that there's just too much going on over there and ranger land. I feel like a guy like locking up ten million for another four years after this i. It's just it's too much man and Your price is good as far as like players go. I think i think they're gonna want something else out of that too. I think they're gonna want like cocco or you know somebody like that involved in trade as well. We'll definitely i mean. Also my one thing is that are i. Think phillip he'll and craft stop there both. Rfk's i think right. Yes that's could be like free money because those guys were making less than a million last year. anyway. I mean that's four million so now you saw six million out the clear. Yeah i mean and then you're going to have to re sign a whole ton of our face again who. I think you'd want to start in more than you would really like icon on the rangers. I would think right well. That's my thing. I mean fully settled gordyev walks. I mean you have been john shrem down metal right and like i don't know man i i don't. I don't see why everybody says the rangers are going to get eichel. I don't see it again. I mean it's i mean. I only did this. Because i was like the first they were. The first team popped up. And it's like you're right. I don't say shrink every everywhere everywhere. You go on twitter or instagram. and i it's supposed eichel. There is a million half ranger fans underneath it and you know even regular other old. nhl fans. They're saying he's going to the rangers gunnar interest but like right now unless they do some magic with the cap. I don't see it happening won't glad that we're in agreement there which is spelling these myths new. Remember when that was the thing. I- dispel this myth. Or whatever i think it was like title cruise thing. Twenty sixteen years old mean like i dispell this myth about like symbol shedding pretty weak. Anyway i don't know why it's the twenty sixteen election rowe all politics aside so don't don't worry about it anybody but it's like there was just so many means that came out of it and the the one that gets me is still on. The hillary clinton won where he's like just chilling in cedar rapids. Like always on my mind the memes that were born from. They're crazy anyway so back on topic the second team that people keep bringing up his la kings. And how do you want to read off this proposal so the one that we drafted up pretty much drafted up that we have together here for the kings is going to. The rangers would be quinn by field. Tobias bjorn foot and wraps capri and a first question. Because probably i don't know they. They probably want more at that point. I mean quit and i feel. I found that to be interesting. Because i want to get rid of You know give up on him already. I wouldn't say it is giving up. I just say they'd be trading on a turning nineteen year old prospect for an already established twenty four year old superstar. And you know twenty four is an old. Nhl right. i mean you're you're you're losing your prime status once you're around twenty nine thirty so still got five. Six years with the la kings young core. You know they're able to Develop this system around. Jack eichel around the aging agyei co petar and build a supporting cast. You know and. I think that they will be able to do that. In giving up by field for equal you know but also that's just the stepping stone for right. That's the starting point. You know you need a lot more for him you know. There's there's going to be more involved than that but Yes i mean he eichel is definitely a Ah plus there. I would say over him of course but Just feels like a lot to give up but the one thing and i. I listened to it earlier. That the one team that i think that could make a trade happen would be the kings only because of the cap space that they have i mean they they pretty much have everybody locked up into next year I besides a couple are face but it looks like guys that aren't even really essentially under starting roster and on top of that they have ten million space right now as we speak well nine million so one guy to three guys go. They're going to have another. You know a little bit of space so we'll be able to make it work on paper on is if they can get a deal done you know if they can gather enough pieces and are willing to way with enough pieces that You know the rangers are willing to accept that s going to be the interesting part but Happens man well. Let's put money that he goes to the gangs. I was gonna say. Yeah if he does go anywhere. It's going to be the kings. And i mean i think this is a lot of sense for the sabres. I mean to be as bjorn foot could slide. In right under rasmusen lean on the back end rate. A help solidify. The top. four. Ifas doesn't go anywhere. That really helps out their top. Four on the deekor on rasmus. Campari kerry qatari slide in potentially at the third line center fourth line center fourth line center right now definitely Maybe third line center. You know In the future and a first round For the kings. I mean even with jack eichel. I think they still have a a higher draft. Pick just for the first year because getting adjusted to the systems and everything But maybe they would have to add more. That's why. I put the question mark there because you know maybe a second or maybe another Prospect like tyler madden or something you know. So i don't know do thing is too. Is that the sorry. i do. Have a lot of draft picks available a lot of draft picks still available for them to add to that rate. Yeah no definitely. And i think that's a really good point you know. That's and that's what you know. I mean i remember preaching with the conduct. Though it's like you know you need to weaponize the draft right you need to weaponize the expansion draft and weaponized the entry draft and you do that by obtaining draft picks right you take these draft picks and you build this team that you know by taking players other teams can't keep right you force their hand right you kind of call their bluff like in a game of poker and that's what i mean. That's what the cox should have focused down and they should be doing but they're not because jim biddings idiot which will get into but But you know the kings have the opportunity. I think they're to be solid for especially the expansion draft but especially be solid as well in jackal trade. So we're on the same page with that. Yeah yeah yeah kings. Make it happen. Maybe they're going to be a great team that they can get jackal next season. What wash it makes a move for the playoffs. It's gonna be great team and it'll suck lasting by the kings is that will then they can also have jack eichel connor mcdavid and leon draisaitl in the same division against them which is awesome and makes me wanna cry And so then the third team that we have written down as potential jack. Eichel suitor is Minnesota wild which i keep seeing get thrown around and i'm not fully opposed the idea. I don't think i've researched enough into it And so minnesota wild needs a lot of cap taken off to obtain jack eichel i think and so Correct so big. Part would be matt doumba honestly on the defensive end which i don't know why they would trade him but he makes probably the most sense and people keep saying him or kevin fiala would have to be the starting point and i think that matt dumbo probably be the most likely to give a higher trade value. That sentence in make really good sense. But you know to have a higher trade value above kevin fiala but then on the forward side of it marco rossi who just got cleared congrats him to be able to resume skating again after a year of like cova compilations. So that's awesome for him his story. I think i read. I think it was a player's tribune article of stuff that he was saying. And it was really hard. Wrenching stuff So go checkout mark. Rossi's interviews if you haven't but mark arrest rossi can be really talented player At him into buffalo will be good for them and either in a first because not dumpers already establish a defenseman. But i think he's like twenty six to twenty seven so i don't know how well as trade works out for the sabres. If i'm the sabers. I mean that that's true Ed format domas. Well this is his last year before you know his Is no movement clause kicks in and i think he would definitely want to block a buffalo traits so again. If they're going to want to do it they're going to have to do it now before Before it's too late for a guy like amit and they are to move somewhere space or or just not making a couple of re-signed because they're going to have a lot of free agent so it's going to be a new team basically if they if they often trade and with the success that they're having now especially with pre solve and everything like that i i just i don't know it feels like a lot for them. To give out imagine krill. Capris off and jack eichel it would be nuts. It would be not just for team. That was so close. I feel like maybe i ll puts them over but it depends on how much they give up there. They would have to give them so many like i would say draft picks and prospects before anything else you know. It's just hard. It's a hard decision and it would be good for minnesota though. Yeah so speaking of minnesota. Actually i kinda give it a little bit of spoiler but So i wanted to discuss our most surprisingly good at our most surprisingly bad teams at the season. And i guess i'll just jump right into honestly my most surprisingly good team as minnesota. I didn't expect them to make playoff push. I didn't expect them to beat. I honestly expected them to continue be mediocre at inexpert could resolve to have such an impact that he had but he's rejuvenated the minnesota wild and made them a team. That's worth watching you know. He's made them kinda scary honestly. Yeah no that's that's exactly it. I mean he is nuts. he's going to be a really great player for years to come a so. I hope and daywear surprisingly good. This year i will agree with you on that so so he offers good. Oh sorry surprisingly good. And i'm going to give them credit and these guys are the enemies right now but do it. I want to say the penguins honestly for them. Taking the top of the east via I had them as like a fringe playoff team. You know i had about is like you know. Maybe they'll take that fourth spot. But you know. I easily could see them. Getting flip-flopped provided the rangers or even flyers spoiler for maybe a disappointing team. They're put a yeah for for the amount of like offensive power that had even without having malkin in the lineup for half the season As in pretty nuts and it's shocking to say the least. They had a forty goal differential plus plus forty goal differential this season so One of the best teams and eight. They took it in probably one of the hardest division so they were definitely the most surprising to me. Yeah i mean that's pretty fair shit about them after this though so my most surprising are while my surprisingly bad team is. I'm i'm being homer here and i'm going to say sticking it in the north division not the alcs although i'm very disappointed in them Which i actually really really quickly. If they lose every other game they're going to be in the bottom of the division which is pretty funny anyway So but the the calgary flames are my most riling bad team I expected their offseason. Acquisitions of jacob mark schrimm. Hand chris tanev and even to an extent. Josh leo to really bring them to towards the top of the The north division especially an honest like a relatively weak division esp- top-heavy division and they could easily gone into a playoff spot. But they should the bed completely. You know the flames went on a free complete free They fired jeff ward they brought in darryl sutter and they still continued their free fall. Johnny goudreau still continues to disappoint. Matthew could chuck isn't i. I mean i don't think that he's playing to the best of his ability Marchiano i think taking a step back jacob. Marcham has been playing well because he's being over worth and you know Really the only bright spots are ten of enola. Hannifin that Calgary flames back end So yeah. I think that they're most surprisingly bad team. I really expect them take step forward and kind of a kind of feasts on the weaker teams in the north division. Which they didn't yeah. No those are those are great points. I mean it was pretty shocking to see where they ended up. And you know i guess right after you know the coaching change. Maybe we should have expected it but there still doing bad before the before the coaching season for coaching season coaching change. You know they're doing bad before that. And even after the they kept doing bad. I mean they just can't figure it out i don't know i mean i don't really care because i hate. The flames agreed agreed. I don't really care for them. I kind of liked that logo. When i was younger. I think i used to pick them a lot. Because of their logo planning h. l. but their lowly slip pistons. So oh i don't know all right so my my fucking disappointing team and maybe maybe this is because of one player in particular boy my disappointing team. And it's almost unfair. It's almost unfair for me to even say it because of what they had to deal with With the dallas stars as slim. Probably david probably the i team. That was like devastated by the kobe. You know They had a slow start getting and then it seems like they never really kicked in Jamie benn was out for entirety of the season up until the end sagan to spend right or sega. Sagan's yeah sagan. You know he was out for a and fucking alexander radulov food for a majority of that season you come for. We'll come in for a couple of games and score millions of goals in just never play again but whatever anyway him in. I thought this was going to be great. Especially the past couple of seasons. They were doing really well. So it's very disappointing for them to miss the playoffs. They missed it by four point. Two games and you know you can make an argument that if golden rattler team and you know they were riddled with as many injuries as they were you know they they easily could have taken out last spot but just disappointed. They didn't make it. I guess yeah you know. I'm going to be real. That was team that i didn't even really think of to be quite honest But yeah they're super Super disappointing i. I mean i think people were saying that there. They were the first team in either awhile or ever in the nhl to make the finals and then not even make the playoffs next year. So i thought was very interesting now that that's true. I mean granted. They went on a wild run to make it there but yeah they definitely overflying thought. I really thought it was gonna be hurricanes or or you know hurricanes are lightning top one to and then dallas stars right there number three in the fact that they missed it was was unfortunate. Yeah i can agree with that one. But although jason robertson man he's got he's got a bright future oh he looks like it at least in the future is bright for them anyway. So we'll get into the juicy stuff the good stuff the good stuff that. Everyone's looking forward to playoff. Start tomorrow and by the time. You're listening to this. They start today or maybe they started saturday whenever you're listening to know but the playoffs start. Saturday may fifteenth sorrow for the bruins and the capitals. so we are in discussing. Who's going to win the first round in each Matchup hannah yeah. I don't know. I'm expecting some good battles. I'm hyped this. Yeah yeah i think that this first round outside of like a couple of games You know that are that are really set. I feel like there is some good storyline. Some good interstate rivalries and you know the north division of courses a rivalry match at the rivalry match. And then there's some pretty big ones. So i'm very excited to talk about it and i'm excited to watch more importantly i i really can't wait for this. I think it's gonna be better than last. Season's playoffs now. It's pretty fun to watch. Yeah definitely on especially with like american fans being able to be in the buildings to That should be fun. Officer don't give giving an atmosphere post last year So let's kick it off. I with the which visual which was new on start with. I know there are listed in order. But i don't know which you want to go into. I mean hella. Let's go and order. We'll start with the central. So the first one nashville carolina. I know you're picking nashville way That was a joke. If you didn't know i. yeah so. The nashville predators the carolina panthers carolina panthers holy shit the carolina hurricanes honestly. I'm really excited to watch the carolina hurricanes and playoff action again. Oh yeah dude. I mean it was disappointing How they how. They were limited last year. And i think it was sufficient macabre who who had that ankle injury and It was rough. And i'm you know it's going to be interesting to see you know their matchup later on because you can only assume where their next opponent leap but Yeah i mean they they are. They are poised right now to make a pretty deep run in the playoff so be. It'll be fun to watch. Yeah and i mean. I think it goes without saying that. The will are picking the carolina hurricanes To beat the national predators. Although you know if you see saros keeps on going the predators. Keep playing a defensive style of hockey men. They could take him far into game seven or something you know They could put up a fight. I won't i won't count the predators out completely. Although i do think the hurricanes aren't gonna win. Yeah they're i think they're completely outmatched. you know and and realistically i know we kinda beat that point before but you know. Let's say dallas and get hit by covid you know we're not even talking about this matchup so i don't think that the predators really have been or should be a playoff team so i mean but who knows you know like you said if goaltending states honorable to ride that wave they they definitely could make things interesting for carolina. I got carolina in six games. I probably say what pretty i said. Probably five but i wouldn't be surprised if it was four for carolina understandable so florida tampa. I think this is the most exciting florida vs tampa. I think it's the most exciting match up of the first round honestly It might be the most exciting one. I mean both. These teams have really played exceptionally well throughout the regular season Their games have been interesting to watch and could lead to a really freaking good rivalry down the road. I mean definitely a florida's becoming the real deal finally giving tampa run for their money. I know this could be the start of it where You know you know. The interstate rivalry begins basically I the only problem. The only problem i see for the panthers is of course the the magical return of to injured players from tampa bay kucherov. And what's his name stamkos right. They're both going to be available. So i why would i have written here. Is that screw tampa. I know they're going to win and they're probably can handle the panthers but if there is any upset that happens. I hope it is in this match up. I really hope it is the panthers that are somehow to sweep the rug from underneath them again happen at tampa again and i really hope panther somehow pull through man i. I don't know it's going to be tough for them. But i mean i don't know what are your thoughts there. Yes can say. I don't really think that it's like an upset. That would be an upset of florida. When i mean the that. Florida has been playmate i mean they took the division home-ice advantage tampa Although that was with stamkos in kucherov injured Yeah do they have to embark hav you know then now the panthers have ray back chris. Readers been playing well but rossi started playing well again. You know this team if a team is going to be tampa. I mean it's either florida or carolina you know and i wouldn't be surprised if he does win. Yeah it could. It could be an ice upset with the latter. I don't know it's it's going to be tough. It's going to be tougher. I think it's going to go to distance. I think it's going to be a six or seven. I'm going to have to stick with tampa bay but you like you say florida could could could definitely do it though. They could definitely pull it out. Yeah i put tampa and seven. Because i do think that kucherov impact and stamkos impact is gonna be the difference maker along with vasa left ski but We'll see i mean that's why put seven games. I think the florida can take them to it to be honest. So yeah. I mean you know when you're when your team is negative seventeen over to cap space There's a good chance to win that cup. There damn you're never letting that go i. It's so frustrating. How they're able to get away with it like he shouldn't be able to play in the playoffs. Like how is that not a rule. I have no idea. I mean we realized noah it makes no sense to me and any realm that that he should be able to play. I mean that has to be something that the nhl is gonna take a look at this season and fix you know. They're going to be like ea and make a patch for next season. Seeing what tampa bay is about to do. It's god pro are anyway anyway. Let's go above the border man. Let's travel north. Let's go to canada. It's gonna passports ready ready. Yeah yeah. I'm ready for so you know honestly and it's like i feel like with the with the north division and i mean obviously like my primarily wash games seems but i feel like i've definitely seen a lot more of the other canadian teams especially like the east east coast. Canadian teams tori. I feel like i got a kind of good handle on how they play So winnipeg and edmonton. This is gonna shock you. I think i'm going mentioned I'm going to say what did i have here. Hold on i have. I have mentioned in five games. I be winnipeg's sucked. They've they're like three and ten in the last thirteen games. They're sliding down right now. I don't think they're defensive. Core is there. And i think they're going to get torched by mcdavid and try subtle renewed. Ujjan hopkins is also been playing. Really well Yes i think. I gotta go edmonton. Unfortunately you it's funny you know it's funny as a my birthday. I had a calendar reminder for me and this was on saturday and i said Check where the oilers are now. Because i remember meeting you having a conversation definitely on this podcast one of our earlier. Probably like the setup for this season and you know i. I think that you had the oilers down in out. Probably not even making the play-offs or maybe that they weren't as good as they wear this season. I think it was but anyway. I'm glad that you've finally came along to the oiler. Trade now is to beat. They're not a team to be there. Just playing a slumping. Winnipeg they reverse conversing montreal. Montreal i would say montereau i think talking about like regular season uplift sure like is like as like a whole like yeah you have to mention especially them slumping but i i would hope and faulk. We'll talk later about the honors. I hope regular season doesn't count when it comes to the playoffs Lilies where they are now but you know hopefully maybe winnipeg turns it on and they have a series but i do have edmonton taking it as well. I'll probably in more like six seven again. Only because i feel like when it is pretty tough but you know as you mentioned there are slumping so you know. We'll have to wait and see how that goes but you know it would be super disappointing. Super disappointing of mcdavid. After a hundred points season doesn't make it out of the first round in. Oh so For his sake and for edmonton sake. I hope they make it out of that. i know only for his aac fuck edmonton their fans there. The base humor. No you have the best. Two players ever like relax dr halls on a top player. But you know he's up there. Obviously he's top five to the he's not top two. What are you talking about. Mackinnon's number two. Are you serious score. He mckinnon's like point production point production. I'm not saying point production. I'm saying general player. Well yeah well. I mean what do you. What do you want out of a forward. You want points. And he's number two. I want some okay dry styles. The second he's definitely top five. Then i was going to say he's probably fourth or fifth. He's on second at least patterson's obviously second come on. I'm just kidding without a kit with a wrist injury. Young fish corner his plea i. I am going to scoot around the wrist. Yes up loser all right you know. He's a fucking loser fuck you. How's that sound fuck you. Mattie mattie be mattie be rats awesome matthews needs to shave with his wrist and injury going in in racket up so many goals. That pederson was so scared that you can even play. Yeah go jersey matthews mustache coaches and his moustache anyway. Speaking of theron toronto toronto montreal in the first round. I think toronto is gonna win. I i do think that montreal's going to put up a fight that a lot of people don't expect them to. I'm going to say six games for toronto. The yeah i mean. They're they're going to finally beat the curse right. they're finally going to get out eight. Do this is their first matchup between toronto montreal in the playoffs since one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. I thought that was just interesting thing about that toronto. You know they're going to win. They're gonna win. Probably four or five games. I put. There's too heavy for montreal. I mean they had a really great season montreal. I don't think there's anything for them to be set with but toronto man. they're scary. There is really walking through the north whoever they play next whether gore edmonton i was going to say i think toronto gets out of the north division. Definitely yeah i mean. I know that we're we're only talking about the first round today but toronto. Let's be real there. There's no competition there for them. Right now definitely moving on because dragon it with toronto. Always damn toronto talk. I feel like tsn So saint louis i colorado. I mean this is easy colorado. I put colorado in four. My note was so unfair. Ll yen one of the things that the coyotes were a few points. Shy of their playoff spot. So well this. Yeah i mean it's it's awful So colorado i mean. Hey i don't know if you mentioned that we probably did dave solidify their spot as the presidents trophy winners realistically. Look like the team to beat man. So you know. They're going to be having a fun time. This playoffs i think. And you'll quick shot out devante Shots you buddy. I oba if the islanders take it you guys take it and when yourself a cup but four or five game so probably four. I don't think saint louis has a shot now. yeah know. Saint louis has no shot colorado's just to stacked honestly there the powerhouse. I don't even care powerhouse without a doubt yeah So next up is vegas golden knights and minnesota. I put vegas and seven. I put one what seven seven games. Seven games vegas and seven games you. What do you think minnesota in seven games internet issues again because you said seven games. Yeah i hear that right. Seven minnesota interesting. Oh okay Various i just put vegas period. Because they're winning serious. So how many games seven games. So how many say six five five five seven. I think six or seven a no way. You don't think there's a chance caprice off. I don't think there's a chance God no no five games vegas and you know what speaking of former islanders shutout lehner winning the jennings again Him and flurry was a flurry flurry and played most of the here. What are you talking about robin lehner here. I like robin lehner. As much as the next guy but come on man he played. He played a couple of games. Hold up hold up. He played he played nineteen. He must play twenty games out of a fifty six seasons. So it's not nothing. He didn't do nothing. it played. He plays so the duo. The two of goals against i give them credit his goals against a two point. Two nine nine thirteen save all right so flew one point. Nine one point nine eight. He singlehandedly wanted. Listen the reason why i say again. Shot out to a big reason. Why say minnesota's also because cam tablets in playing really. Well i mean that's less games. But i don i assure wrong that yeah okay but i think that minnesota could be darkhorse. All right man. I'll you know what if i'm wrong from raw. You wanna bet. Amish you wanna bet on us debt. Debt vegas that the game goes all right so hold up. I will win if vegas wins in any in any fashion up to game. Seven wins in seven. You win and if minnesota wins in any fashion you that make sense. But what if it went to vegas game six. The in between are five and six are are five and seven. Oh so you're not confident that minnesota's gonna go seven. Because i think you said minnesota seven confident. You're not confident with five. Then because you said up to seven so then you think that the sex i said no no no no no so i said that if minnesota wins in any fashion four five six or seven you if minnesota wins in seven you win and then if i guess i don't lose anything right so we can get them all right so then we break. Even on game. Sega swinson sixty break even and then a vegas wins in five or more than i win again pissing them out get it what. What do we what do we. What do you want to put out. I mean well. What did we do last. Oh when we versed in fantasy we did embarrassing picture. We can't do embarrassing picture again. Kind of i don't know twenty bucks a year next go out. Oh you're confident you're saying minnesota and seven. I think it will in fantasy league for the year. Twenty dollars on one. What do you think. I am mon. Mr moneybags what do you think. I'd trade crypto like on seafood. Anyone is listening to this podcast. That is willing to take that bet. Let me know because you know we got a little bit of bitch boy here on. No we go. We go by a beer. But like i mean yeah. I'll buy beer. I don't care. I finding bragging rights at this point. No no i just. I literally just told you do now. You're being a bitch boy. Will you want you only pay on it right now. He shaky shake. I'm shaking my hand in the air. You shake so twenty bitcoins off so vegas and seven verse. Vegas in five gotcha. Okay yeah so anyway. Let's move onto the sort of sucks. Shut the fuck up all right anyway. Eastern conference the poopie conference so The bruins capitals the ones that start tomorrow Who he got there well i. This is my most exciting match up in the first round. I think i'm super cider. Washers maybe it's because it's biased. Because i've been watching these teams play all year But i don't know between today no charge back against his old team and just how strong these two teams are. I feel like it's going to be a great match up i have the bruins taking it. I have them taking it Basically 'cause town hall acquisition. i mean. he's he's been phenomenal. But do one thing that. I wanted to bring to your attention that i don't even know if you know about. Maybe you do when you call posser knock dude. No posture knock. He's been struggling season. You know he had a good start like a great start. Amazing start but he's only had six golds since mid-february now. I don't know if that's gonna be enough for the capitals to take advantage of you know maybe playoffs common awesome posture knock is again. Who knows but he's been struggling man And i don't think it's enough. So i'm gonna have to go with the bruins taking it probably in six But this is the one that i'm most excited for. I think is going to be great especially with the dino. Charles matchup against him dude. He's going to be fun. Yeah i was gonna say. I got the bruins and seven. I think that they're def esp- especially because of the taylor whole acquisition. Yeah i think you're right The i put the bruins and seven I think that just makes the most sense in all honesty. Dude i mean yeah not much else to say about that. Honestly you know again. It comes down to the depth I think the defensive depth deaf especially charlie macro as having a great season I think goaltending is kind of a toss up between the two If ovechkin can stay healthy. But i mean that's they really just have a top line whereas boston has quite a few lines where they can roll and Attack you. I mean so does washington. But i don't know i i Yeah i got boston. By the way. I had to make a correction quick. I meant mid march february for pasha knock nam but anyway it's still stands at. He's struggling as a late. But yeah i mean you hit every nail dude. I'm pretty excited for this one. I think that i'm going to probably try. Watch pretty much every game out of this out of the series. Oh oh oh oh my god. Oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god i think so this is a. I'm sorry i. I know we're not talking about the story right now. I know i know supposedly sources tell massacares who. I don't like it all in vancouver media that they believe bet. Jim benning will not be back next season. Jim benning quoted as saying jim benning is no longer able to a large part of this fan base. Who being pro e. Oh i'm so. Sorry i just. I just saw that notification pop up. And i was like wait. What the whoa okay. Okay we can go. I'm sorry i know. Sorry for the islanders dan. That's crazy man. Ooh okay the sorry. We can talk about the who right pittsburgh penguins guy in this way out. I'm happy for you bro. I told you the signs worse starts bro. The sign was where it starts. I also things happen. You know all right anyway. So we'll talk more on that in a few minutes the pittsburgh penguins and the new york islanders. Now i'm gonna ask you to give your non-bias opinion. Who do you think is gonna win the series. I need you to ask me that. Exact question after game one honestly It it depends man. I it depends what islander team shows up to the playoffs If it's the islanders that we know now and how they've been playing as of late. I'm gonna have to go. It depends and i'm gonna have to go with it going quick like five or six If it's an island routine that flips that playoff switch at the had last year. Granite that arrest whatever You know at naked. Come in and fire on all cylinders on every single line defensively goaltending. I think that they can take it. I think they could take it in. Probably six games But again you're gonna have to ask me after game one to see what islander team shows up Yes so. I'm sorry. I just keep should about banning there it gets even deeper with sorry anyway so while So i have the penguin seven. I think this is going to go. Seven games regardless. But i think it's again like you said i mean and i know we were talking about separating the regular season from the postseason but the way that the islanders have have been playing in the way. The penguins implying are completely different. i think the islanders are going to get a late start to the series Maybe in the first maybe even second game honestly until they get woken up You know and his first goaltending has been pretty alright. Surprisingly i didn't expect them to crosby has taken a setback. Their defenses played really well and they've been rolling with four lines This tangle team surprising looks good. I thought they were going to take a step back as well but you know here. They are And taking it to slumping islanders seem i mean who still has anders lee out honestly and Age can cow palmiero pop paul. Mary haven't really given that same impact as an isley has So i don't know man. I think it's a toss up at the end of the day. But i'm gonna go with the The penguin seven games. Yeah i mean. I like a lot of your notes that you put their I have to disagree with you. As far as goaltending goes i think that chari. I mean he wasn't good this season like at all. I mean i think he's finishing the season with like a ninety nine. Save percentage is really casey smith. You know his nine twelve but let's be real. It's not even that good and also quick fun fact. He left practice early today. Many could be injured and their head. Coach said they'll no more in couple of days which isn't good when their games on sunday. So if dismiss out and just jari net. You know that's going to be an interesting thing. And even with a healthy dismiss and jari. I have to give the advantage on bias. Whatever the hell you say to varlamov in sarokin we're honestly varlamov could injure to 'cause he wasn't playing and You know. I think he wasn't even practicing either today. But they're saying that it's just you know trying to be safe. Make sure they don't hurt him but You know. I hope varlamov isn't hurt because he's honestly going to be the key for us if we're gonna win this series. Yeah yeah that makes sense. You're thinking about the goaltending I think i think my thing is that. I expected to be a lot worse. Honestly ice with their goaltending is suck ass and you know they came up very Their golden okay. I'm sorry if i miss her said no. No no i. I was honestly probably zoning out for a minute But i definitely. I expected their goal tending to not hold up. I did not think that they were gonna be capable at all. And they show that they're capable you know they're not elite. Obviously but i think they have been able to assist this team in getting to where they are on and bailing them out at pretty crucial points Again i think it's a tossup honestly you know this this is one of the ones that i'm really not sure about Sonnen it's going to be a good news poll through. I agree to and you know. I have this thing here in down for the offense because you know let's be real that's all. We've been talking about as islander fans and islanders nation Is how they've ceased to exist when it comes to scoring goals but dude like if byu patio especially those two guys can start to light it up. It's going to be great. Especially with like a young walsh being on pasuq wing. You know the two of those can get it going. Get each other hot back to be great for that second line because let's not forget bailey. Nelson led the team in scoring last year in the playoffs. So you have a line of pavilion bailey and Nelson in those guys go off that now be great and then you got again view on that line while going off. I just need that. Fourth line is shut down and then they gotta figure top lineman whether it somehow injecting palmeri and there. Maybe even promoting while to first line but like i. We can't see calmer hav in that top line. i know. I'm beating a dead horse about commerce being on top line but if they wanna have a fighting chance and i mean i truly truly truly hope trotz has been like hiding his secret cards for the playoffs. He's been hiding the fact at has walsham palmeiras card ready to attack on that. I line because i mean without that. I mean i. I don't know what bars oh can really do you know and you know you need. You need that top line to score goals especially with fucking pittsburgh's top line dude. Their top line or crosby rust. I mean they're unstoppable. They're the reason they're in the playoffs. They're the reason why they won. That top division spot like their top line respectively from crosby. And russ sixty two points or crosby. Fifty-seven ferguson. That's all forty two russ us like. That's insane we. We had forty five points out of out of bars barzal. We had thirty three points out of abberley and we had just eight points from wheel. Calmer off this season we are completely outmatched as far as offensive firepower goes so they gotta figure out a way to to get going man and and he did this majority without malcolm in the lineup. Trust me i know. They did it because he was on my fucking fantasy team. So it's it's gonna be bad as far as offense goes but you know what they say defense wins championships and as far as defense goes you know i. I think they have a vantage. They're like a slim advantage. I'd say a little bit more than probably other island. France are willing to admit. But it's gonna be tough man. It's going to be tight i. I'm so anxious for these games to get started just so that way. I know what i'm gonna get myself into after the first game. I'll know if. I want to care about the series or if i give up on our i don't even really care to wash the rest of the games you know so i'm just anxious for that first game. Which by the way is sunday at twelve o'clock and he fucking afternoon. So i'll be busy of course ought to figure out a way to watch the game on the road what Yeah man. I dunno scared. Yeah i mean i think the offense is the biggest thing that concerned about the islanders because they play such exciting hockey. That it's hard for them but goals on the net. So don't even play you know it's really hard to be exciting. Yes especially compared to pittsburgh penguins who again as you head. They light it up. You know and it's interesting to see if defense does actually win championships as national predators can attest to. It doesn't so we'll see how that works out. Yeah oh you remember. Jeff carter yoyo. Yeah yeah he he's. He's done really well right eleven points. Yeah eleven points in fourteen games but it's not a kalpa. Mary was the move. Roca steams disc's. I don't know man too so it's okay. I've got the wait and see but yeah connects man. I'm over that. I think that was enough for us As far as the playoffs go so big news just broke almost not real news yet. Right speculation. I guess still what. Let's talk about it bro. guess so again saying a sort sources are telling this guy mat-su kerris but you know and so i don't really trust this guy. I mean he's the guy that tweeted out. I leave the guy that tweeted out about quinn hughes. Iv thing which apparently was false. But my the reason why. I'm kinda taking it seriously as this guy far. Hanley a lousy He's on tsn. I don't i'm mispronouncing his last name but farhan everybody calls him. This is first name he. He's he's a pretty royal source and he quoted the tweet of the siqueira some price thing and was based like. Oh yeah you know. They believe that banning won't be back and That's huge. But i also don't you know i mean i was smiling like a little kid for a minute when i when i was in that. But you know i had to get wrote back in their reality for a second you know. I don't think it's fully on jim. Benning i definitely think is jim bangs fault for some of the things but like man like this is on ownership to you know i mean ownership is definitely playing a huge part in the decisions that are being made. I mean especially. Look at the not re resigned travis green yet or ian clark. Their goaltending coach yet like these are people who needs to be reassigned. And it's like for me. Like i don't know how you let go of a capable. Nhl coach who shone shown time and time again that he can grow. The players that he trusts are growth players in that he trusts the players and the players trust him. You know what. I mean like you know you have to be getting travis. Green for under three million dollars you know. I can't see him wanting more than that Which honestly isn't that much you know. I mean and ron brindamour. He signed for like one point. Eight five in carolina this week or whatever you know. There was a reason for that you know. He wanted all his other coaching staff. And the scouser. Whoever the hell to resign as well with him so we took a cheaper deal but that was like it was like to build a culture in carolina. That's what you do to create a successful franchise you know you create a winning culture and you create a culture that people management players. They won't all wanna be a part of. I mean look carolina book at tampa look at saint. Louis look at chicago. Hell even look at boston. You know what do all these teams have in common. You know they have like a team. They have a city. They have a front office all bought into a culture. You know like a winning culture a winning dynamic and that's something that vancouver's lacking right now and we'll be farther away from if they do part ways or let go is Of travis green. You know what. I mean Eh a winning culture is such an important part to a hockey club. Especially i think more so than other sports Just due to the like the whole like old school old school boy's club comrade her camaraderie or whatever but like man like this important time in the canucks franchise and you know ben and goes great. You know peace out. Maybe he be headed the scouting department. I don't care don't think benny's a bad person. I think he's a good scout. Keep them in a scouting role. I don't care. I don't want him running the team running the contracts were talking to the media. But you know who does talk to the media travis green travis. Green has been the one to do all this. You know travis. Green has been the person defending the players. Travis green is defending himself. He's playing to win playing for his next contract. I like trap screen a lot. I'm green fan boy greenspan. I'm i my I'm trying to think of a funny word. Like lose for hughes. I'm kind of thinking like that for green I don't know anyway. But like we heard like travis. Green wants to stay in vancouver in that. Jim benning wants him to stay in vancouver. But we have yet to hear from jim or ownership that travis. Green is like actually wanted in vancouver next year and that's just like shows that disconnect between ownership the management and the fan base and it's honestly frustrating as fuck. You know it's just like what's the what's the plan. What plan what are you doing. L. it's a it's pissing me off. Now they're playing these fucking bumble for games and always wash four. pm eastern times like one pm vancouver time. Nobody's watching them. They don't mean anything. Play offs already starting. Who gives a fuck. I'm not watching them. I didn't watch the game last night. I don't care yeah. They're pointless game they're pointless games and they're not you know. It's like whoa. Why even bother. Well yeah i mean you. You know you're stuck. Does he wanna play hockey. So he tries professional Scooter and career. Yeah he wants to play a more warzone nevermind fortnight k. What line as fucking warzone warzone. I play that tonight with dennis can see if he's still up for dude wars gas. Do you know what game. I've been playing a lot lately. Game called a little weird valerien. It's it's pc. Game but dude fowler is low key fire. It reminds me of like overwatch mixed with like cs go. Oh i remember. I saw josh and julian playing that one day shouted dennis. Josh and julian actually happy birthday. Julian sexual today Which also worth i mean damien again Yeah forgot we really have. We didn't even mention it though. Is your birthday that just passed. I mean we did last week. Yeah i guess that counts but you know i saw them playing now roasting them for it just because they were talking shit about shit about cold war now is like like an valerie. I'm gonna shoot whatever the you know. Anyway be on an. I don't know what to make of. This was faint couvert team the the next few weeks leading and then leading up to the expansion draft. It's going to be really telling the direction of this team and You know they have the core. They have the core that they need to build around but they need to Needs to get their shit together and and by shit. I mean they're shake contracts together and do something about it and actually create a winning culture in this team and city that people actually want to be a part of people take discounts to come to the city. And that's something that they should be doing. You know they're they're a top ten revenue generating franchise and league fucking show chauffeur. Why are you letting so many people go you know. Are you refusing assign personnel. That's really integral to the scene. Because you're a fucking cheap blueberry. Picking bastard francesco acklin academia. That's right you're selfish. Blueberry picking that kind of sounds like a derogatory term dan. Anyway yeah anyway yes. That's my rent on the cox dude. I feel you man. i feel it's It's gonna be some interesting times coming up for the the nfl fucking shoot glass if they They lose any good anymore. Good players like tyler toffoli. Who said that. He wanted to spend the rest of his career in vancouver. I'm done anyway. anyway. I'm done with this episode. I'm getting more heated. I was more dejected fan. Now i'm just angry can fan. I gotta stop. They're not even the playoffs. Why am i concerned. Plows starting tomorrow woo. Let's go dude. Yeah i know. Aren't there. But i'm sure you can rally behind some of these teams players are here. Let's go dude i'm heights. High got a semester's ending to to wash more of it too so looking forward to a semester's ending either thursday coming up or next. Monday depends on whether or not my professor cancelled my final. Which sounds ridiculous. But there's a reason but whatever dude. Yeah so hoping. Here's hoping man well. We no longer have fantasy to talk about. But we'll have a new segment for you guys come in. We can't don't. We can't spoil it though about this. I'm so fucking. I came up with a second before recording. I was like wait. We need to do this so if you made it this far make sure you come visit us again next week because we have quite a bit of a surprise for you there and yemen. Where can they find us on. The interwebs find us on instagram especially at the clapper report. T. h. e. c. l. a. p. p. e. r. e. p. o. r. t. Interact yelm of some extra follows there. Yeah we're gonna be talking whenever whenever we see something that we like with this playoffs. I know i'm going to try to justin. i want you to. We're just gonna share whatever the hell we think You know whatever whatever game surprises us. Whatnot whatever plays insane and We just wanna talk hockey. So let's definitely do it. You guys cafa stare lever review for us. If you're on apple podcast follow save. The episode helps us out in the long run. Yeah i guess. I think that's it for me so you guys next week piece gas.

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Bruins-Capitals Series Preview & Predictions | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

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Bruins-Capitals Series Preview & Predictions | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome engine poke, the bear, episode 43, the date, and hunted episode, I am Aronofsky alongside Colorado posture Sports channel, Connor how we doing Heaven? Very excited. Recent playoffs. Get going. Oh, it is fast approaching, we guests on Brewing speed that it would be Saturday night and we were correct that it is Saturday at 7 Bruins capitals opening. Their very exciting series. We will preview fully in this episode. Every part of it we will touch upon and so but before we do this, a couple little Bruins news things that that have taken place over the past day or so that deserved some Dimension Jeremy swimming the back up for the playoffs which is kind of what we expected. Give it off how good swimming was in the just in the regular season. I mean you just jump off. The scene and again, cam Nealy even mentioned it is press conference Wednesday that, you know, they're in a different place goaltending wise with the plan, then they were even just 2 months ago. Yeah. You know, it's interesting when Bruce Cassidy announced steps are Tuesdays game against the capitals that swim. It had indeed kind of short up that back up spotty saw on Twitter. A lot of people were like, oh it's crazy is awesome, it's like, he's really surprising. Well yeah, I mean, I get it's great to see the, you know, a guy like him who a few months ago, you thought he was going to be down the AHL for a couple of years? He's that spot. But I mean, still get his body of work, like what he's done in this past month. I mean, 773, you know, 945 save percentage leads all goalies in entire NHL, a dangerous State percentage. I mean, every single seems like every single break away our. Our rebound down low he's you know, squared away, he's tracking the puck. Well yeah, it's not really that much of a surprise job Obviously a tough break for jaroslav halak who it wasn't like, people were like, all right, see you later Hawk. It's like, you know, wasn't like he was, he was bad this year, like was he was, he took us know, but like it wasn't like he was a detriment to the team when he was in there, but you just look at the waist. Raymond's been playing? You can't, you can't argue against it, right? I mean, he gives you the, the, the chances, the backup guy. Again, I think we've talked on this multiple times, ideally you don't have to even worry about putting swimming in there, right? And that's something is going to have to go wrong. I think they need to put swimming in there but it's definitely a testament to him as a rookie, a guy who you know, price of getting called up to Boston, only played nine games down in Providence, you know, wasn't he's like this season's rainy season, a gelir. Ready to ready to roll me kind of got thrown into the fire and has been fantastic. All year long, whether it be down in DHL or in the NHL, so well-deserved for him and yep. As you said from what Neely talked about during Wednesday's press conference. Like the overall game plan has to change in terms of how you view going forward. Not saying that they're going to kick R ass to the curb of it. Very well could be situation where it's women's walked in is that back up as the new Heir Apparent. By next year, I think there was a chance that hillock was going to be the back up next year. You know before he got actually got covid-19 that was real quick. What started the whole getting swimming in. There was a lack of Covent that was the issue and he had issues with it after. So that really was kind of house when we got a shot and he made the most of it and he deserves feedback up. Like I don't think many people as you said like this was not a surprise by any means, another non surprised. Nick Ritchie wins the 7th player award, the highly contested, highly debated, Nessun 7th of June, or this year goes to Nicholas Richie, which it really was also not a surprise. I mean, that we expected, you know, provided great offense, especially the beginning of the year, when he was, like, leading the Bruins and goals. For the first couple of first couple months, Weeks, or games was first, at least, at least a couple of weeks. I mean that power playing that first month was like, after like, you know, two thirds of all their goals were just like either, you know, tips or rebounds off on Ritchie down to the nephron. But yeah, as, as you said not much of a surprise, you know, they're people talking about Craig Smith. I don't think was even on the ballot, I think. Maybe they've they've learned from years past of like we're going to have a bath be limited to you know, bottom six or you know D pairing Off The Top hair. So yeah, I guess dance rotation was Craig. Smith was going to be this, sir. I think he's still exceeds expectations but you look at just where Nick Ritchie was going into the season. I feel like there was quite a few people who were probably like if Nik Richie gets bought out or not, he doesn't make the team or he's you know, a bunch guide that's about right. You know, people were like oh you know the considering kind of how rough his stretch was in the Toronto playoffs are up in the Toronto wage. Will you don't really know what to expect from right? Cuz you going to be this guy who is not going to drive offense, who's going to be taking, unnecessary penalties and so far he's fit the bill of what what you're looking for. Jobs actually now I think in this third third line role that he's in it's definitely a different look from that third line in years past where it seems like that, this is going to be the de-facto heavier line, but so far, it's worked out. I mean I was a skeptic of how him corellian coil were going to look and they're outscoring teams 4 to 1 during the element of time together. So, so far that has been probably one of the most surprising development, sitting down the stretch here. I think obviously people talk about Paul and that's like a line. Yes, of course, it's great, but you could see the writing on the wall there, you couldn't really see the writing on the wall with this third line. The way they're playing and especially Richie long stretch which I think is very encouraging for the Bruins because if if him and corralling those guys are carrying some of them going to the playoffs. It's going to make an already pretty deep full of group that much better. Any guess? Where the A and the regular season finale. Yep. Okay. Yeah we will never forget when to figure out where you were when that happened. I also think when you know the two guys we talked about swimming and Richie part of the two, most pleasant surprises of the Season. Obviously Hall on the second line was pretty big but it's a long haul. The end of there's some Skeptics like, you know, the can Campbell's of the world than just people in general but like it's still freaking Taylor Hall. I do think Nick Ritchie, you know, doing what he did this year, after everything that happened last year, and Jeremy swimming coming in and just dominating after, as you said nine AHL games, and he was in May. And last year, like that, those are very pleasant surprises. I think. If you had pulled off ruins, the beginning of the season, I don't think they would have expected either of those things to happen. And so again, I mean pleasant surprises for them, definitely not safe. That's the beginning of the Season safe bets now, but if we're talking safe bet, but obviously betonline.ag absolutely listen up, guys. 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So what are you guys waiting for at the bad online today and take advantage of all the great bonuses office and contests available right now off again, enter promo code seal on us 50. That's e, l m. S, fifty-three 50%. Welcome bonus on your first deposit that online, your online Sportsbook. Experts go there now. So as now the big topic this time of year, it's funny actually, because if the playoffs weren't happening right now, let's say the playoffs were like wage. Say we got about two to three weeks from now. So, like Bruins Capitals in hypothetical world is happening, like, you know, three weeks from Saturday. You know, they're going to wait to everything's done. Everything settled, guys are vaccinated whatever which is really weird, but let's say that happened. Do you know what today's topic would be I bet I bet you can guess and we've done this topic. A thousand times would be Jack eichel to the Bruins allergy, what? Today's topic would be Jackson, the Boston Bruins. So I'm glad that we don't have to discuss that today because we have battered that. It's it's funny cuz the same conversation every time, it's always just like oh you know it's too it's too. You want to give up postion. Argo. McEvoy know. Okay, wow, okay, that's it. That's. You're over. Like that's literally the Crux of every single trade rumors, have like a little put out, you know, you need to give it back for Poshmark, okay? You wouldn't do it. And then people kind of fact, we've done this bit of thousand times the trade propositions of, you know, back in nine instead Anika a first and David krejci for Jack Jack eichel, oh yeah. Okay, okay, yeah, let's do that. So I've missed not having to do it but I'm also very glad that we have like real things to talk about. We we laugh having though, but we're going to be talking about this in like July, so, you know. Yep. It's it's going to happen. It's going to be a more mature well but, you know it's yeah, exactly. We're going to have like someone's going to have like a like a Snapchat of like go like on a boat in like Martha's Vineyard thought about how much he loves the Bruins. On Fourth of July weekend is going to start up all over again. So yeah, we're just, you know, this is like a preview. We're throwing a little teaser trailer out there before we do. The real deep dive later, that's something. We had nothing to talk about or will be like visiting be you just simply visiting my daughter and someone will be like oh it's Boston. There it's going to be like the Larry Fitzgerald Logan Airport like jack, eichel spot in Boston, but he lives the attorney on T. I don't know if you know this but he's from North Chelmsford so I'm really Windows realize guys, he's coming back if we walking past the garden to go to like to go to Earth Guy Fieri, you know, man, you are very noted, noted fan of Guy Fieri. Jack, eichel is going to be at Guy Fieri's tequila Christina. So yes, he'll be going to frigging dog. Tavern in the Square. He'll be near the garden. And they'll be like, oh oh oh he's walking to the guy. He walked past it or they'll pull up a picture. Like from this college days, they're going to announce it, he's going to sign. He's going to announce it off. He's going to demand a trade is going to be the fan being a captain for the playoffs to be Jack in in a, in a Sabres jersey though. Doing it just to like, twist the knife more cuz I think Sabres fans have had a hell of a week a month. Yeah, no. It's it's been, it's been a rough. Rough rough stretch of years is is, yeah, Lou Chief said it ended when he absolutely crushed, Ryan Miller once that happened, everything just spiraled down. So, yeah, no, that's could be interesting to see how that plays out there this summer cuz I, as you said, guaranteed, we're talking about that in July. No doubt, no doubt but there are more important things on the menu page this week Bruins capitals, as we said begins Saturday night, this is a series that we expected to probably end up happening. You knew that you first thought you knew it was one of three teams and then went down to 2 and then it was like well, We don't see the capitals, so I'm interested in the series, and I'm interested for a lot of reasons. Obviously, there's the stuff that is. Oh, yeah, that's pretty General. There's obviously the obvious Tom Wilson stuff, which we could, I imagine, we'll get too. But I think the most interesting storyline of this series, is the charl. One is the fact that the day, no Chara the defenseman that you pretty much said, we don't really have a spot for you. We're going to probably you won't play every night. You'll be a third pairing guy, but we're not going to play it. Consistently not consistent minutes. Pretty much like if you finance or better go and that he was the capitals and you're playing them in the first round now. And he's part of their six. He'll be playing. He'll play every game. I'm so interested to see how this plays out because it's Jeff Israel tweeted. Either way, there's going to be a handshake at the end of it. And it's going to be like, sad no matter what Chara hand shaking with Bergeron and Marsh and krejci song Or what they'll do. The handshake line will happen. Unless they don't cuz covid-19 they would. Cuz then, when we got deprived, if they had J Clyde last year. Yes, which was sad, which was very, no, wait, was there last year? I thought maybe it was halfway through the playoffs want to say cuz number that was that was, when wasn't that when doc gave? Like yeah, no natural man. Yeah. There must have been the definitely one that people are slamming their their steering wheels. Go. What surprises shambles right now? Yes, he is. He is, he is banging his steering wheel right now, but no. So I'm very interested to see how may I don't think Charles going to be a focal point of the series and like, you know, matchup wise. But I think that's going to be an underlying story that we consistently watch. And I'm interested to hear what you take, what your take is on that. Yeah. It's kind of like Raonic Right. Said the, you know, the Bruins didn't think he was going to be in their plans or power interpreted that he was going to play because of he stayed are given the amount of injuries. They had. He would have probably played every single game he was healthy. Oh, yeah. And yep. The irony there. But yeah, I know it's going to be fascinating just to see them go up against them, obviously as March and kind of said, he knows their Tendencies, but also they know his I would not be surprised. If you know Charter has given those, those tough matchups that they target him in terms of just, you know, a quicker guy like March and or Boston rocker Hall. I think it's one of the ways you can exploit. The the cap has, you know, before me to go like match-by-match up like the two areas of the Bruins soundly beat the capitals in the series as defense and goaltending caps, got some big bodies back their life. They don't have a whole lot of speed, so it would not be surprised if you know, whether it's just like dumping the puck in having chart, try to Corral the pucker or beating him to loose Puck. That's going to be something that they need to Target. I mean, they know everything about the player and he knows everything about them. So that itself just in terms of appeal, mashups going to be fascinating to see what happens. But I would not be surprised based on wage. The overall way, those teams line up that they make a concerted effort at, whether it's just dumping the puck in or trying to get him to play the puck, they're going to kind of Target him and not just him. I mean, you look at life and Dylan out of the big guy who's not very fast. You know, they've got different areas of their line-up, especially on the vehicle that you can Target over a seven-game series. So it's not like Charter is going to be just like a place. There are complimentary player he's not going to be like playing ten minutes a night. You just kind of have the the Cutaway during the broadcast of like oh and you know the history with these two guys and it's like, you know, Bergeron charts not going to be like, yeah, there's a matched up one-on-one promotion this area. So yeah, it's going to be fascinating to see what happens. And yeah, it's going to be a lot of I think Charter getting plenty looks against the Bruins top six, which it's going to be a tough task for anyone, obviously, right. Yeah. Also, TGO. She and John Carlson out for game one on Saturday night. So Carlson another guy you're losing from that Decoy know, obviously, you know, not the greatest offensive But still their top defenseman, like that's their guy and he will be out for Saturday's game. I I also think an interesting part is how they shut down the Bergeron line. How do you, how does walk to try to handle that? Do they throw the, the 4th Line of the diode line that's going to get our tag tag 1 and 1/2 away. I'm interested to see if they do that if they go with large store. Cuz again first two games they have last change. So they don't necessarily you can try to get that mismatch with with Backstrom mantha in Ovechkin. In there. What how it's funny? Because I don't think this is where the brochure online does get shut down. I think, when you really look at it with the, with the big slow defense with VTEC vanicek, which will get you in a bit in Net, who's been really not amazing against the birth here. Very, he's not he's not he's not that great. He's not a starter and and I just think this isn't a serious. I think it's a series where they score a lot of points actually wage. Again, high-scoring series I think on the Bruins end of things it's going to really I think the series really hinges on the Bruins ability to keep the puck out of their own net. Cuz I mean I don't know how you don't score three to four goals, the game in the series. I, you know, I, I agree with you. I think it's definitely a serious. You look at just the, I'm sure as this podcast goes on, we're going to go into our predictions would have you, but the more you can look at this matchup. Sure. It's dominated by Ross, how physical the Caps, I, you gotta watch over tunnels and all valid concerns right there was easier. Things that can change the course of a series if a guy gets knocked out, but, you know, you look at one of the underlying numbers with people. Sometimes don't want to point out cuz you look at underlying numbers, the Bruins should have smoked the, the blues going into that Series, right? So there's only so much you can go draw from that. You just look at the fuel matchups, wise wage, a lot of them really don't Savor. The the Capitals in this series. Like you look at Bergeron, that's most likely he's going to be matched up against the old vets, ovechkin's lines Ovechkin, HughesNet sauce. And Wilson and threw his leg up. There hasn't been playing up there but I think I think it's been mantha Backstrom. And oh she I want to say is so cool. I'll see that will change. Now with with a few of those guys out of the line of socially. But you look at Bergeron's primarily matched up against Ovechkin and through seven games, they vote scored the Ovechkin lines. See he's pretty good. So no, no. It's normally they, they generating chances are shutting down the line, but let's say It's a situation where at the very least Aboriginal and is shutting down the electrical. Maybe, let's just say for sake of it, over a series only scores one or two even-strength goals, obviously want a lot more. But hey, the good thing about this theme, you also have a 1:00 be line that is all capable of scoring goals and bunches, right? I mean, we'll see kind of how the Capitals handle that matchup of whether it's you know, you're kind of damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't, right? Like who do you want to put like that that Dowd log? Against and see how they match up. But you you look at if the Bergeron's able to at least stop Ovechkin, you've got crazy Hall and Smith who have outscored teams thirteen to one together which has not that's crazy over such a small sample size. Especially and then, I mean, one of, I think the key thing is going to be that third line of coil, Richard Bach, chorale e, like that's a team, that's one. That's a line. That's one equipped to handle the capitals, another big physical team. You don't really know what their matchups going to be, is it going to be allies Eller? And the third life is going to be a 4th Line, so you can just look at the overall matchups. And yeah, the as you said, the Bruins have generated tons and tons of chances against them. It's not just the fact that the goal-tending is not great. I mean whether it's Advantage, check or if Sampson. Comes back, It doesn't really give you a whole lot of optimism their defense. You know, you're if you're moving fast, if you're if you're winning Puck battles, if you're the first one you're on the puck you're going to have a lot of time in the offensive zone in a lot of great ideas going to be available to you. So I mean out of all the teams Bruins have played this year, only the Sabres have been the team that they scored more goals. Against Bruins are averaging, three, 3 and 1/2 goals a game against the cap here and mind you. This is also with only one of those games being once table Hall and Mike Riley and Curtis Lazar arrive, you know, this is before this back when the Bruins are still pretty much a one-line 2018. So you can just look at the overall matchups and where these guys slot in like yeah I think it's all going to come down to you know, how this year. You can go wrong for the Bruins is if guys get knocked around and hurt them, you know, if they spend way too much time in the box. And if it's there's pure outscored on it's going to come down to the goaltending situation, which I don't know about you. I would take two carafes and generally swim in. It was opposed to Santa check out. And samsonov. They also might have Craig Anderson. That could be a guy to bring it in. That's right. Anthony said, this has got the Bruins in the past so there's that, it's so funny. I look up. I looked up off his line combinations cuz I'm unfortunately not super well-versed and then from the even from the season, they changed so much. So I was looking at them and I wonder how updated this is cuz that website like dailyfaceoff. So went to look at the Bruins line combinations, a game last night or the from Tuesday night. So, the first slide, you know, if you're a capitalist and right now you want to see what the Bruins look like. You see a first sign of Jake debrusk Curtis Lazar, Chris Wagner thinking. Wait a second, what, what happened to Birch? Run and pasta rocket Marsh? And so I just find that hilarious that the that the website hasn't been updated yet. You're right though, on the matchups. Like again, I think it comes down to. If the capitals are to beat the Bruins would have to take the blues approach that they had in 2019, which was beat the hell out of them like that. Like the hell out of them. I also think, you know, again the, the blues got fortunate with Bennington, playing extremely well. In in game seven, you had some other games that he was solid in and then the games he wasn't solid and he was absolutely garbage. So there was that but the blue is also a stronger decore-ative. I think they were a little bit deeper up front if I remember correctly. I mean they didn't have anyone with the power of Ovechkin but they were a little deeper but again I think that's the way if the cap was off the Bruins so let's get to predictions. Let's get to predictions. Cuz before we started this, I remember in the weeks leading up to this cuz I am going to give a prediction that I think many people might be surprised at and the way up to this on both podcasts I have said how I would rather play the Penguins and it was a really the only reason was because the capitals were super physical in. You're going to have guys were hurt and I worry about how the Bruins move on to round two months with guys who are super banged up. But again my apologies physical matter what but when you really look at things, Actually, I'll let you give your prediction first. I'll let you to picture. Yeah, I want to go bowl. I'm just a bruise going five. Okay, I think you just look at the matchups. The fact that one seemed like both teams are turning in different directions terms of the injury injury bug mean losing a guy like Collison who's one of the more mobile guys you have on defense? Oh she who's been great? Especially on the PowerPlay. He's been dying of them in the bumper especially when playing against the Bruins. So, you lose those two guys, you also have a whole bunch of guys that are going to be banged up, right? Like I wouldn't be surprised if especially, in the first couple of games of birth is making emphasis on, you know, finishing there checks against, you know, Ovechkin Wilson. So, that's his day-to-day. Yeah. Backstrom just, coming off a little body injury. Kuznetsov is coming off of covid-19 all so I don't really know how he's going to look. Yeah, you look at these first couple of games, you got a pretty good opportunity to build up, build a pretty solidly and make your, you know, your presence felt physically. So yep. It just the way the training differently, you know, injury-wise and again like I can't see the Bruins unless again the capitals knock out four or five guys, I can't see them winning every single game 5466 for, you know, I can't see that situation especially considering that you just look at the matchups. I don't know how what the Caps do to negate the birds are online playing like this, the crazy line playing like this. The fact that you might have something that third line like, you know, as a dangerous as the, the cats power play is and you have to make an emphasis on, not taking stupid, penalties of not spending, having a parade of of guys going to the Box. You can't. And it's not like wage is PK is like a vulnerable thing. They haven't done well against caps this year, like of course, but they also have the second right. TK in the league like they're not like it's like this Achilles heel or a fatal flaw with our team. And you kind of look at what has been kind of the root cause of quite a few of the Bruins last couple of playoff exits. A lot of it's come down to, you know, getting knocked around midnight Blues are just not being able to get inside and generate chances. And you look at the way the Bruins applying, now you've got legitimate secondary scoring with that. Crazy line third line again has defied Mom. Expectation. Sure. A lot of other people in terms of how well they've played. And again, it's not like the people that are worried that the Caps going to run them over. It's like the Bruins are ranges right where like you can have a bunch of little guys like trying to get involved with with Tom Wilson. Like they've got big guys, you know it might involve Cassidy for a few games can be tinkering at the line up, you know, maybe you go with Frederick for a game. You know he hasn't been effectively lie or, or Wagner or sonority is a third parent guy. You bring them in for a game. If you get knocked around quite a bit, you've got guys, there along with guys that are regularly in the lineup, right? Like Richie, Kevin Miller Loud can hold his own. So you're kind of equipped to handle kind of the the worst that the capitals can throw at you and the Capitals aren't equipped to handle the best way you can throw at them. So 5 is probably dead. Bolt wouldn't be surprised if it goes to 6 but I just you look at the matchups wise in the way that he seems are trending. You have to imagine the world is going to end quite a few punches against the Capitals. Yeah. So I actually went Bolder than I did. Was going to do five for the Bruins but I landed on six, I think it's gonna be Bruins in six. I hate when people say, when it's going to be in 7 cuz it's like, it's kind of like a a way to kind of be on the fence about stuff. I always hated like people knew people do like production and seven. I said Bruins at 6 solely because I don't know if I don't see a series where the capital is only win. Once I see him winning twice but again for everything you just said like the matchups wise and when you really look at that you know the goal-tending like you can't tell a huge Advantage Tech is going to stand on his head for Four Winds. I just don't I don't see that happening. Number that makes me want to say that's going to happen to me. And again, the deer slow and you know, your and the Bruins are hot. Like, that's that's another thing. Screw the capitals, the brakes on a freaking heater and they've been that way since the deadline and so I think when you really like when you look at it this team has a very as a feel about it. They have a little feel about them and I'm not sure. Ahead of myself. Cuz, you know, you know, but I remember last year even like when the when the, when the Presidents Trophy, remember thinking? Well, this team isn't that amazing? I don't, you know, like they were just good in the regular season and put on paper, the matchups. I mean, a lot, you know, that mines are complete. The second line isn't complete. You know, again the, you know, they let too many guys to the middle in their own Zone. They couldn't get in the middle of the other teams own this team is totally different. So yeah, I think frozen 6, I think Bruins should win this series. I don't know how they don't. I mean it again unless as you said they get banged up to the point where they have a lineup, they roll like like Tuesday night, but even that was a to one game. Do have that Capital side to play all their starters and the regular season finale when there was really no reason to do that but that's okay. But that is the playoff, that's the first round preview. You can have all your coverage over at Sea honest. Media at, Boston Sports channel, before you go, what kind of listeners look forward to be SJ wage. We have a new site rolling out now which are excited to unveil and we'll be having my plenty of content going up in the days, leading up to game-worn on Saturday. So we'll obviously have a big kind of premature dropping on Friday going through, matchups. And again, I think we may be kind of spoiled our overall predictions but that will be included in there as well. But looking at a couple of other, you know, playoff matchups and walking around the league as well, so you can find all that stuff over at vs. J on the new site. So, subscribe over at Boston Sports channel. Com, if you want to follow me on Twitter, you can do that at, Ryan. Underscore 93 FBS Jo stock. It's good to invest in now cuz it's only trending up. The only training up the stocks. Baby stock talks talks anyways. Anyways that is poh, Colbert episode forty-three and married offsets Conor Ryan, you poke the Bear Song have an amazing rest of your day.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 244: Featuring Jack Eichel

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 244: Featuring Jack Eichel

"And a hello everybody. Welcome to episode. Two hundred and forty four of spitting chocolates presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here on the Boston Sports. Podcast family we got quite a bit to get to. We had a very serious incident. I will be talking about very shortly. But let's quit Colo's first. Let's go to produce a GRANOLA. What's up buddy? I just left you down here in New York City. Yeah what's up? Guys are happy to have you here in. New York City got to do some skating today in central park so that was a blast and now I'm ready to do some podcasting. We had some fun today. Our Dog. Let's go you next what's going on. We're trying to grow the game. People have to go to Central Park to watch. Ra Skate will never wanna ever stepped foot on the ice. Oh four people had to run into that Machen. I'm GonNa tell you right now. Guys up furious. I was in a great mood while I'm not in Florida anymore Sat originally pissed me off. Now get sick shit. Of course you get sick at the end of vacation so I already talked to your fucking. I also had an issue on the plane but my main thing right now I need to bring up his. I'm battling through one of the hardest injuries you could ever deal with. And that is when the plane landed my left ear popped and my right ear. Didn't and I got this pressure sword of What's the thing when you're dizzy Berg wish I've been I've been I've been doing like a chew gum. I've been opening my mouth. I've been doing any possible one thing on Google touch into your left shoulder and then Shut your nose and then swallow really hard. I've done that six hundred times. So there's no more golf and there's no more son and I got vertigo and my nose is clogged. So just bear with me as I could be a little miserable throat. This recording there is an exercise you can do on youtube but just google went for Vertigo. I did it before it actually work. You gotta go off yet. It will be no more vertigo. Okay it'll be wit. We go and now. I need that to happen all right. Oh a longest period of time you've ever gone with this young adult. My and my calling you guys understand these satellite years. They when they get airborne boom. I made sure I pop my ears when I did my vertical jump test at the combine because I got an extra half an inch and were and so. This has never happened yet. This is always been a couple of minutes after but one wet per usual but the right one because stuffed up from the sickness from the end vacation. Sickness has now been stuck. Yeah I I mean I've experienced where maybe by the time you get past the customs line. It's finally gone like if you're traveling internationally about the name this something because a lot of people that are listening have experienced the length of time you've gone with that you're being fucked up and I know you're paying but I don't know as long as quickly I do. You know what I want to get in a little better mood so I'll give a little Met some great people today and let me explain to you what I mean on the way down We had the window seat for Ryder. The middle seat for my wife and I had a window seat somewhere so all I needed was to get next to them right. I needed that. I'll see I said. Hey Sir next. Can you take my window? Cd Goes Nope. I go really do whatever so then the lady next. Hey can you take my window seat so that asshole can take your seat? She goes nope so no one would sweat. So I couldn't sit with my family. I was like. Are you kidding me? I actually get to watch a movie the whole time. She was writer. But still you're giving them a thumbs up your thank you know today. I'm getting on. We didn't even ask him when I said forget it. You got the same situation. The Guy sees me talking to my wife and getting it to my role and he says you know. What do you want my seats there? I'll take your seat and I said thank you so much but it's a C- normal human kind of maybe maybe allow us to sit together as a family that was like a positively but then didn't pop all say this and it was funny because I was arguing online all day about plane etiquette. I saw that very random timing especially considering you have some plain talk now for those people who didn't want to move. I would be the type of person. Yes I would try to convenience a fam- okay. That's where I would have been like. Yeah but I don't think those people should be shamed for not doing it. I guess Kinda Dick move known they really. They honest to God shouldn't be because in in an really particular way people need. I'll seats and they were both aisles. It was a window so I understand that. What if it were me I would? I would swear Hunter Brad how I look at it so to me. You're a loser but you're also you're also doing nothing wrong. If that makes any sense yes fair enough and arguing about. Today's people go on twitter and they're like Oh. This guy had the idea to recline his seat on my flight. Like what the fuck are you talking about? I have borelli talking about that earlier. I saw you. I saw. I disagree with you but I told a seat reclines three inches. I do it because if I sit at ninety degrees. My back's going to seize up. So you're telling me in order co two convenient you. I have to sit in an uncomfortable manner when the rules are allowed to recline. Oh bull contol like dude then fucking prepare earlier and get like an exit row where it's lengthened or buck up and pay for first class and people listening I. I'm not a fucking SNOB. I'm not like wit. I don't fly first class everywhere. I'm not that rich yet. So principal guy and if somebody in front of me wants to recline. They're fucking seat and it goes three and a half and just pay. That's their goddamn right and I'm not gonNA fucking complain about it. I feel I feel that. It's that considering. Those are the rules and like dude like smoking inconvenience passengers so they took it away so if you WanNa fuck and protest so you can't recline seats on fucking planes then started. We'll change petition to go. Change Co fucking shut down every bridge in your fucking major city. Because I know that's what you fucking idiots do now. You shut down traffic to fight because you're fucking. You're not getting coddled enough on and immigration and how about this analogy for your situation over the plane situation. It would be like if an army platoon head to run ten miles right and the platoon leader came over and said hey here guys. There's some sick new. Nike airmax is a really comfort around in Europe to where you're tuned boots and the guys who put the shoes on and ran got yelled at by the guy in the tomb boots. So do if he said we could use them. If if you're allowed to push the seat back right I would not use the karate or sit way. Did you just think of that? Analogy off the top of your head. Yeah just now. That was the only issue that genius analogy only issue. I have with the analogy immediately in my head. Is that the guys who did where the army boots for the run. It didn't have to are more thinking when we're in battle with your kind of being selfish because you're not preparing for battle but I was more off the cuff like if I could be comfy while running but you know what I'm saying now I'm kind of confused unless I really liked the analogy but are you feel about it. I feel that it's something that shouldn't I shouldn't be shamed because I want to recline my seat. It's like Yo that's my fucking right. Where the reason it all got brought up is there. Was this lady who recliner seats on a flight? Mind you I'm going to give you the whole story. He was the last row so he couldn't recline so he probably felt the right that she shouldn't get too because he gets sucked by the wall. Our fault and bad so sad by prepare more for your flight or you ended up. I've been fucked in the hoop like that. You eat it. You got to eat it while I mean that's the FA that's what it's fucking therefore you know I mean I I usually live. Look back a little courtesy. Look like Hey I'm gonNA fucking slowly ease TV lab but I'm going to utilize it. You know so so. This dude was like punching the back. I was bobby four. I'll listen I can laugh about that. I mean I would never a million years turning around. She's just taking it like cues videoing it videos. Toshiba's over her shoulder. Kind of she liked. It was happening. So she got her phone and moved it to the side and catches this guy punching back of her fucking. Imagine if you heard more audio fucking ear please. Pop School it. Was You understand what he wasn't having any of that recline where it's like? Yo- you're lying bro. And some people are like exactly what I would have done bro. If you do that to my seat ever in your life I tweeted this. I said I'm going to end up on fucking. What's the World Star? I'M GONNA give you getting dragged off a plane. 'cause I would have taken your Goddamn fucking house. Don't be the fucking guy to get caught behind me playing games with me. Recline my seat because all fucking go over the top ropes. Maybe Anyway House are members of her crew all Biz. Nasty Bissonnette. Doing doing good buddy. We got a good skate in earlier. We had a couple of scrimmages took a couple of dixies. Bo-bo we had some fun out. There was It was Dixie. You said that before. We started recording. You fall down. I don't know just just an old phrase ticket. Dixie fell freezes that you don't know what it means honestly. I got from my dad probably forty years ago just one of those things that you know my from my old man he got from you guys were on the ice with plenty balls. He was trying out skate in for the wedding bells. Balls is out there on the ice. But he's a big big fella but he was he was buzzing him him and they basically just bought skates in the fly and either they didn't fit or they couldn't get a good fit so they just went out here with their. I can sneak is on and you know we plan. I think four on four or five and five with those like Mitt little mini nets people. Who Haven't been following closely. What is happening there preparing and lead up to the pond hockey here. I'm in and out. Ra is going to be her brooks. You're going to be the new on her brooks. Yeah I gave Gibbs a lot of shit today because he I mean the Jersey was cool. It was the Russian Jersey but I was like buddy. The anniversary is in fucking like ten days. Do you wearing Russia to the anniversary. I don't think you're GonNa make the team you know or did they not just have the fortieth year anniversary? Did they do something with the penguins recently did did they drop the puck there? I thought I thought I was reading something about that. They were getting involved with the NHL. Because it's the fortieth year I think Rosie O'Neil was at a game. I know the focus on him. But I don't know if they might have done a pre game because the actual anniversary is I think ten or twelve days so high eighty browning from the NHL reached out to me because he spoke at an event recently. And he's definitely someone that we want to get on for you people. We just feel that it needs to be done in person. There is a chance wit and you can answer this week and maybe work it out in between Pond Hockey tournaments where we get them. Live in Boston If he's in town we're getting. We have a bunch of good ones in Boston. Line of you guys miss a little little round to Brendon Walsh. Shit we got we got. I think Josh Hennessy's going to be kind enough to come on and people who don't know that name Stapleton's really good friend that's how I met Tim Stapleton also played rush for longtime very funny cat. So we got a bunch more coming on. Maybe a possible hall of fame legend. I am not going to give any names. Not Or don't try to you know. Get in your heads there. Don't worry so yeah. I think use the only if he's Intel be fabulous and I don't think we've said his name yet or maybe I just blacked out there. Did Cam Nealy not agree that he's GonNa come on? Is that not even? That wasn't even talk about it for God. Ram Bam Bam thank you Ma'am Bam Kanye off night. They would teasing can. Oh No I actually. I actually was another guy on the tails of right now. I just thought of another guy to who who didn't play in Boston very briefly but he lives in Boston. We can maybe mentioned it off camera who try to get I. I got a couple of delayed shoutouts when I was flying back from Saint Louis. I was cut through the cincy airport and Rudy's old team. The University of Denver was at the airport. They and they pulled me. They grabbed me aside. They're all big to check. Let's Fan so I took a pitch I told my give them a shadow on it and then About a week ago I was walking through City Square in Charleston. In someone's yelling at me and I just ignore them because it's a city who the hell knows what's going on then. A bunch of other kids showed up. It was a Suffolk University hockey team. And they were they had. I don't know if I had chick sweatshirt on whatever so I told those guys I give them some love on. So shutout the Suffolk in Denver. It's I it's always cool to get recognized by college hockey team. So he's probably bringing some dope to or I guess you don't have to because in Colorado you're going to be that's going to be your little playland this weekend yet. Thank thank God does not allow a lot in the menu this weekend. That's all I'm saying. He's fine hurry in. Grenell will be going. I had prior engagements is how you say it. Prior engagements yeah arrangements. I arrangements subscription subscription. I gotta get description I Yeah I fucked. I've had some bad ones recently. But our anger and all are going so you guys will have a fun experience if you see them. Go say what's up me and winter. Sorry we can't be there but we're going to have plenty of more events where we're going to end up in every town and were eventually going to make our way out to Colorado next year. We mentioned Minnesota so we got we got a lot in the pipeline where we're going to try to keep touching all these areas to get better contact with our fans because we like seeing you guys we like interacting we like hearing about what you really like about the podcast. Not so much about what you don't like about it but it's it's a little weird. I don't really hear much criticism person. I usually get it online frequently but anyway but it's it's some good things in the pipeline so ra. I hope you guys have fun. Yeah I'm very excited. I've never actually spent time in Colorado other than switching planes. I'm really looking forward to just this scenery in the rockies and yeah of course the shops. I'm looking forward to that as well but I think we've done enough with the hallows and we should probably jump right into the news in. We had a very scary moment. Tuesday night in Anaheim. I know everybody was actually on the National News. I just had. Abc Veteran Blues defenseman J. Bohm used collapsed on the on the bench after a shift. Just an awful scary scene Transit was the first one to get over and he was frantic right away Waving over the medics But I think the one fortunate than guys is you have top of the line staff equipment just feet away and people just jump right into action. And they probably saved Jay's life they said afterwards he was alert and response of the ABC News. Just said he's going to undergo more testing wit. Have you ever been around anything On this level on a bench when you played no thank God luckily like I was never a part of anything like that but water or like a heck terrifying moment when it all went down and and Biz. You know what I I thought of was sitting next to his brother-in-law at the finals. Yeah same and because it's like Y- you just just personally you just forget about hockey. I was like Oh my God like first of all. I've I've I've known the name J Bowl Meister since I was fourteen years old when he came on. The scene is this freak. Superstar is going to be the next one of the best defense but of all time and the way he skated in the career. He's had I knew I was the same draft some and he was going to go first overall for every actually ended up dropping a little bit but then water career. He's had so it was like all these emotions came running to me. Because I know him I met I met a family member of his. And then you see the seriousness. In how scared guys faces wherein you realize that game gets cancelled and then the video came out of the slow motion of him collapsing. I don't know if you guys have seen that out a bunch and it just it looks like he's like dies right there and you think of rich privately and what happened there in. Ra. You said it. Thank God for the doctors what what's also scary to me is the thought of that happening in the middle of nowhere. It's like it's just it's just a freak freak thing that I think makes everyone realize right away we've talked before on. This is how fragile life is and thank God for the for the medical staff of both teams. I mean fuck. I broke that down awesome wet. I guess all I can say as we talk about him all time on the podcast because this guy's a very special human being. He's a very special person where I mean as far as is league who who come in every day lunch pail mentality not much talking going on and having fun because they they need to get the work in and the needs to fucking they need to produce they would never in a million years wanna feel like the person that's getting overpaid for what they're bringing as far as their work ethic and he just happened to have those world class talents to match it. He was he was a special player from the moment we knew his name. He was playing World Juniors at a younger age he was in the NHL right away and to see that happen to a guy I I could. I wouldn't be surprised if he fucking came back because we saw what he went through last year and having the hip surgery. I know it's completely on a different level than what just happened. But he he fucking showed up and he put what work needed to be done to put in to get them back to where he needed to be. So I wouldn't be shocked if we see him again playing now if that's not the case that he's not able to get back to where he was. That's it's just a shame the way it all had to end but tip the cap on an unbelievable career an unbelievable person and that was That was a sad sight really was Biz in and I think you you show the emotion of thinking to teammates and and you guys that you care so much for and seeing one of them go down like that and that's not a part of the face that's not. That's not like a knee. I know that sounds crazy. But you're thinking like life and death right there and you see the panic metre Angelo. And what happens and and I'll tell you jay-paul meister eighteen seasons and people who don't know maybe younger guys out there. You see him now. I stayed home demand getting the job done. You see the first ten twelve years discriminates in Florida. Playing Twenty eight minutes in his sleep if he felt like at forty points. I mean he was unbelievable from the minute he came into the League at eighteen years old and then to see all that and then actually not even think about it. Because it's like hockey. Didn't even matter for a couple minutes and it still doesn't cause you still get these tests done. But the fact that he's around Doug Armstrong press conference today made you feel a lot better in terms of the news and the testing that's going on but holy shit that just put life into perspective in and show how crazy can be because he's sitting there getting ready for next shift and all of a sudden you look over. Your teammates collapsed. I it's panic time and that's why those medical those doctors in those those trainers they are busy. They'll they'll fi every I every diets happened to. They've been able to revive right. They listen your Moss and a tweet Fisher on and I don't want to think I don't want people to think we're glancing over even like the family aspect because I'm sure everyone knows by now. They were doing their father's trip right so his father is. They're up there with the other fathers. This is supposed to be an awesome experience. You're you're all bonding and getting to see. Your Boys. Live out their dreams and then that happens and now not only that element. So I couldn't even imagine what the father's going through he's got to go down. I'm assuming soon enough. He found out that that everything like he was back and and and things were okay so obviously a big time relieving moment. But I couldn't imagine like the whole leading about thirty minutes is that's hell yeah Awful feeling to see someone at worked on them. You couldn't see a plane. His debut could sit clearly. They were giving him chest compressions in the background. You could clearly make that out. And that's you know that's when you know it's all hands on deck league cats in the game to obviously that's the play like you. Sometimes in panic situations people make wrong decisions. Everything was handled perfectly by everyone including the media panger and ended up having to hop in and obviously go through emotional experience and you use like shaking and and he fucking stood in front of the camera and let everybody know exactly what was going on so everybody could maybe sleep a little more sound. Yeah I think with a few of the other guys. What would it turns out to be as a condition that these guys never even knew they add until the situation popped up and then they they realize you know they've they've got to get something repaired so remember as you do that. Ekg Or whatever it's called so there must be some things that that can't see the only way I could describe it as like everything's running perfectly but these guys like I mean I guess offset one point but I mean these guys are playing a lot more as time for a long time like what their bodies are going through and how hard they're pumping. It's like a fucking Ferrari. I'm like if if if all of a sudden this one quick thing and it's like you couldn't catch it and it was just like boom boom boom so we hope he's he's he's I. What's the latest? We know the absolute latest just further. Testing I start on the ABC's nightline nightly news before. I came over here so last thing when I was talking about the trainers I just just GonNa say there. There are some of the best guys at like basically messing around. But as you're in the room those guys are always joke around there in the middle of all the Pranks. They know what's going on and then it just shows. They are ready at the moment. It needs to happen at the incident happened to go home. Oh life saving mode which also crazy to say. But that's why those guys are the best so charlotte to everyone and especially Saint Louis in Anaheim right. Anaheim's crew came over to they. All you know they work together and fucking fellas. I got a couple of tweets people like I don't want to be insensitive area but like what happens so my bet in this game off home back returning to normalcy here and I was like it's just no action later that that's how they score it so yeah we're hoping J. Bozo Right now. Everybody can Can get back to get back to their normal routine soon enough when I was on the best Got Another Pretty big story. We need to cover as well Jeremy Roenick of course she appeared on this show was subsequently suspended by his bosses at NBC. he released a video on Wednesday in which he stated that he will not be returning to NBC rally. Don't you play the clip? I'm very disappointed and angry today. I will not be returning to. Nbc though disappointed also grateful. They've had the opportunity to share my love. My Passion my knowledge of the game with millions of people millions of fans. And for that I thank you even though. I'm leaving NBC. I will not be gone for long. I'll be back better and more motivated to bring you the best entertainment and the best that I have for the game of hockey. I've seen all the support I read all the I thank you from the bottom of my heart. It's overwhelming and for that. Can we see you soon? Jay? I mean you heard him. He said he's very disappointed. Angry and he will not be returning to NBC. What a joke It did feel like the long. The suspension dragged out. Tomorrow it was probably GonNa end this way. And then once they brought out the reverend lovejoy the the right and certainly appear to be on the wall. I think misconception may be that he's GonNa get my it for what happened here but I think there was a prior history with him in his bosses. This wasn't his first Rodeo with them so to speak so you know I think what he did like. I always say what in the end. The playoffs don't give the opportunity to blow the whistle. And I think what J. I did was gave some one of his executives or one of his bosses. The opportunity to blow the whistle and kind of took advantage of the situation So to speak so We'll go to you first wet. I understand Jr's frustrations the whole thing's kind of Shitty. How it's all gone down. I don't know if it's almost it maybe. Nbc was already kind of planning on moving on from Jr. because his contract was done. I think after this year maybe there was another year. I shouldn't say that because I'm not one hundred percent certain but you know you see the. I saw the reverend loved. Ben Lovejoy was on the other night. Sharps in there. They're getting they're trying to maybe go a little bit younger than this was their reason where they can get out of. It looked like it wasn't even their decision. If you know what? I'm saying Wherever Jr goes he's going to be excellent. That's the thing so I think he's so entertaining. I think that there's plenty of people who dislike JR and plenty of people like them. And when you're in Media and on television. That's a good thing. I mean he gets people talking. That's kind of what I'm saying when when he moved on even from not necessarily always doing the hockey analysis play by play an in between periods. You saw before games kind of putting on shows in the VAGUS Cup finals. He did something He did something pretty good last year. I think where he's willing to kind of go into any aspect do different things than just going over the period that was played and going over exactly hockey things. He's he's into a bunch of different ideas and I think he'll be great wherever he ends up. But it is Kinda Shitty for him to end up going out like that because he did a lot of great things a lot of solid years in NBC for a long time when hockey was growing in this country. And that's kind of the way people are GonNa remember it ended form. That's not necessarily fair to him. Also said something. We kinda all agreed. Maybe shouldn't have been said just because of the today's current climate so I don't know if that explains what I think but that was my best at discussing right now through my plug beer so that video came out today. Obviously he's upset. I reached out to him. I ended up talking to him. He wants to come back on and set the record straight. Obviously there's more there's obviously more to this story than than than maybe meets the eye for some. I don't WanNa start talking because I know people are just going to be like all this arguing. About what my opinion is on it. I'll just let him come talk. And then whatever's get said if somebody wants to oppose that and call him out for maybe him being wrong come on. This is an open platform. I got no sides here once again. I think that Jr knew where he could take it with this relationship with Catherine. I don't think Kathryn really cared about what was said. I think it was a fun. Excuse that they use in order to fucking get him out of there and to be fair to Jr. and I love his personality. Like I I looked up to him right because he lets it fly. He's he'll do silly shit too like his last. The IT holds weight because would indeed was a fucking unbelievable hockey player right. Yeah and he and he has way more credibility than what we got to what he's saying he's been there done that so I he's a triple threat. I think he's a very talented guy. He's willing to put themselves out there. And sometimes you know when you're not necessarily getting wrong with your boss and today's current climate. You may say some things where you're a fuck up. Whatever man like we're fuck ups on that? I just happen to say it on this where I probably would have been fired for saying shit on this that I would on other platforms but he to me. He deserves to let it fly and with nowadays and technology he can create his own fucking platform like I want to hear what. Jr has to say. I'll fucking watch it. I was just talking about like Kipruto. Sauna draggers podcasts. As well I love I wanNA consume as much. These guys are intelligent. Guys who who know. Shit about hockey where like I could learn it and bring it to this podcast so fucking rates. Jr all the power to you. Buddy come on anytime holy shit that I get rambling there. Yeah no would love to have on his side of things and he can kind of fill us. He's not medicated. The NBC anymore. So we can say whatever. He wants We didn't mention on. I guess this episode. So we'll do that now. We'll bring it on Buffalo sabres superstar. Jack Eichel we talked him out in Saint Louis a couple of weeks ago with the All Star game. I think this is the third or fourth time we had jack. We got a pretty good comfort level with as he said. Are we stuttered on on your couch for years ago? And now here we are at a suite at the Ritz. So things have really been upgraded. So we'll be bringing you that in a little bit. What was originally the first big story of the week at buried down to the third story was a big trade Trade deadline is a week from Monday. So we should have plenty more to dissect before then but we had a fairly significant one. Monday as Minnesota traded Jason Zucca to Pittsburgh for forward. Alex Defensive Prospect Kaelin. Addison in a twenty twenty first round pick. I have to make the playoffs if not pick will be next year This nice deal for Pittsburgh's still got three years left after this one at a very team friendly price of five point five million pretty cheap for a forty goal Guy Alpha Gal. Janek is the fourth team. He's been with on that three Daily Silent Montreal Biz. Let's go to you first on this one. We should take on the straight. I mean I like it. I like it for Pittsburgh. I look. I'm not gonNA RAG on Gal Chernyak. Because he might be a case where he just hasn't maybe had the reciprocated love from coach. Maybe and I'm not. I'm not making excuses for him. Some people might be like seen enough to him to write them off whereas like but I bet you a lot of people said that about Anthony Declare and he's found a home so it's hard for me to be negative in it when I've seen done recently. He's he's key does have world-class skills. Maybe he will find a place where he's comfortable doing it and Minnesota Fiallos popping off where we weren't sure what he was so now that these guys are getting bigger roles like the team where he will get the opportunity to do it because they do need guys in those roles now. We're probably going to find out if it doesn't work here. I I can't really give them the bad for the Dell maybe he's just not NHL caliber player in his top six role. Unless he's GONNA adapt to being a bottom six. But I don't know if I see that I see him going over to Russia and making more money doing what atop six forward do in not seeing a lesser skilled league. But I bet you'd have more success. Offensively they're so he he needs to. He needs to prove himself here. Because I can't keep. Would you agree? You can't keep making excuses for someone to find their game if if it's another one yeah four four team. Now it's this is this is how the first round picks have more lives than others. You just keep getting more chances but at some point it. Kinda runs dry. Who knows maybe he does? Go find it and you bring up some good names. Biz In terms of guys who are wondering. What's going on like that? Ten starting to play really well then pointed his last five games. bill guaranteed. He's driven. Now Billy G.'s. Talk with a but this trade is Great Pittsburgh no shadow to me in the midst of all this. I guess I called this trade couple of weeks ago. I don't necessarily remember that exact moment in time and recording. 'cause we travel over the place where we could be who knows where we were but I loved it then and I love it now and you just Kinda see. That's the exact type of player that Sidney crosby plays with and I think that maybe Zucca is has higher skill than Pascal. Dupuis remember Pascal playing with said flying around just quickness and Jukka can create off the raw. She can score. So that's what's interesting is that he's got three more years five and a half each year. I sorry if you said that the beginning our area wasn't I wasn't exactly paying attention when you were controlling the trade. But he's now there for the long term so maybe they look at their window like who knows peak said and Gino. Are you looking at three to five more years right? Maybe that's maybe that's off by a couple either way but I think that he can immediately impact offensively team. That already can score and a team. They going to the season. I think a lot of people had question marks all year. They've just been really dominant. Might solvents going to be up for coach of the year. Crosby when when healthy looks as good as ever Malcolm was a beast crosby was injured per usual and now they add this guy and per usual. I keep saying usual idiot with clog right ear Jim. Rockford is making trades. Early he always gets involved a little bit earlier than everyone needs. Some glorious feels maybe two three weeks before the deadline and then he gets to watch his team after that one deal and decide if he needs anything else when the deadline does come ten twelve days from now so I like it. I think he's going to be great and we'll see what happens now upside. I was just going to touch on on on what Pittsburgh go. I love the player. That sucker plays extremely hard. I know that he didn't necessarily fair too. Well in that fight against Tannin but at least from the Games I've seen employees who has a bit a little bite to his game. He's not some little fucking. Scroll guy out there. He does have skill he plays a hard game is willing to go into the paint. And he's the type of guy that he takes himself and his game ways out. The ring very seriously is very like he's regimented like that and that's kind of help. Pittsburgh is like Pittsburgh's not some wild party. They kinda run their operation from the top down the Patriots. Like it's you know. Not a lot of Tomfoolery. Going around you're GonNa have your fun but it's like Yo- were. What's that Tomfoolery? Yeah Boston out the big if I can wear it does I love it. I smoked a good good J. right before this episode them. Nice but I like the Trade Pittsburgh and this this is definitely going to help them and I like his cap moving forward and and what I would say. Three three years is is fair because like sit even said is hardest apart now is keeping up. These fucking kids are getting so fucking fast. They just ZIP around out there. They get up and down the ICE. The game is GONNA get so much smaller as it moves forward. I still think that that there's there's going to be more room. Where like defensemen aren't the massive defenseman anymore? Because you gotta be able to move and handle the PUCK. That's already starting again. It doesn't matter how if you can move we've said it now the big guys that come in they actually move. Well they move really good. So that's why they can be there but if you can't skate doesn't matter how what you look like because if you can wheel you can play like Quinn. Who's is the is the the bar now. Let's get that little fucker zip around doing shit out there. I don't even care if he could defend but he can. And this could be one of those. You know trades that benefits both teams from Billy. Guaranteed us back the day. He climbed five and a half million off the books. I he gets a nice prospect kit at us and he said to be a nice prospect on D. he gets a pick and he also said he's. I can promise you that I promise you this. If there is quick main quitting the team there will be more trade so I wholeheartedly at this team to compete for a playoff spot. Where right there? And if there's any signs of anybody taking their foot off the gas that will be an indication and you know look like the wild took whereas the hot right away Tuesday night. They blanked vagus at home for nothing so mighty performance after that. That was. It's crazy how much they've grinded their way back on. I don't know if you had it written down. Aranaud I sent it to you. This is a follow up considering. We're talking about people adjusting their game when I was mentioning Del Chuck We were talking about Patrick. Linux last episode where I was reaching out to To Winnipeg fans just to give me an overall assessment moment. I can't. It's hard to follow every team like we got. I got so much shit going on with work. Like it's you know so I trust a Lotta your opinions from the from. What I've heard is defensively. He's gone a lot better. He's starting uses. Wait a little bit more as body. Language is better. His productions obviously been good so I mean overall I heard from about probably fifty sixty people in from fifty eight of them positive and they're really pumped about how his game is turned around and they'd be willing to want 'em long-term. I heard a couple ones that were saying that his body language was still poor sometimes but hey whatever a he's an and keep in mind. This is kid who still very young. So that's promising that a guy that young's been able to figure out like that we're early on there was a little bit of pushback. He kind of probably WANNA do says way. And learn that in worked with Paul Maurice where it seems like. They've passed that relationship ship. It was getting a little bit chippy. There in the media. Wasn't it a little bit. He will he better like marinas. Marie just got a multi year extension with. He's not going anywhere anytime soon so He he better get used to him actually hit we mentioned Zaka. He's still got three more years left at five and a half million per so he can afford plenty of Dunkin go to's because with dunkin' go to's you get a great deal on to your favorites with Duncan go. To's you get a great deal like two egg and cheese wraps for two dollars to bagels with cream cheese spread for four dollars to bacon egg and cheese croissants. A five dollars in my opinion. It's pretty tough deal to beat. But that's just my go-to cents. You can take a leave. It should probably take it Dunkin go. To's a great deal for two four or five dollars knows America runs on Dunkin. Participation may vary limited time offer exclusions apply and of course like we mentioned before Dunkin's GonNa be hooking us up at the pond hockey tournament Next weekend in the weekend. After we'RE GONNA be in New Hampshire and then in the Toronto area specifically Lake Muskoka. Dunks GONNA HOOK US up. What a little breakfast and donuts and coffee in the morning get everybody nice and full before the Games if they have their pink. Whitney's of course so remember where this hockey this Dunkin and moving right along. We do have suspension to report as well Bruins defenceman. Germy LASAGNA slap at a two game suspension for an illegal check to the head of Arizona's Derek Stepan It didn't seem like one of those militias hits. It just kind of seemed like I shit. Timing more than anything I was kind of honesty. Surprised that he got suspended. Not just like I said there was no militias maliciousness but The headstone got hit with. What was your take on that one brother? I think it made sense. I thought we chatted about it. It kind of looks like no we the night at happened and we figured he would get a Gamer too. Okay okay well. That's what was the suspension came. The News of the suspension came since we last recorded. That's what it was okay. Well Yeah what about you busy? Both W expected. Yeah I it was against Arizona and I I sometimes I can let them slide. I don't WanNa be a biased idiot on here. So it's unfortunate that it was step who caught one right in the face but hey they're trying to set the precedent. I I don't. I'M NOT GONNA complain. That the game for that. It was right in that. Yeah I guess all Let me see. Oh and last week. Biz Dallas Stars Define Defenseman. Stephen Jones each scored. His first job will almost two years. He hadn't played in that long. He was battling post traumatic headaches. Twenty two months and he said he was going through hell not just themselves but his parents as well. They go to a Shitload of his games. They travel all the time So he scored in the game. He was very emotional after choked up talking about his parents but I read up on him. He's from this tiny little town of Pennsylvania called Wadham population of about seven hundred people and they said every time that The stars play well whatever teams on the whole town like fucking tunes in it and and roots for the kiddies like home on Carol. Yeah he's a real small town genome at all and I just. I fall on social media. I played against them. I think I played against some news playing with the Texas Stars. The team in Austin. That's with their farm team wise and they. They always had some very skilled teams. And I don't think I played. Yeah I didn't play again at the National Hockey League level but just to hear the story because I believe we talked about a month ago and we didn't you mention it on here wet. No I think we wanted to know who is H. O. Rien he came back. He was at the beginning wrecked so now of course he gets the call up to the NHL and he scores. And that's what makes it even more special so like you're thinking when this guy comes back from from dealing with that you never know if he's going to get back to the NHL he came back to the H. L. This guy's back in the show puts one that and of course it's emotional form because guys like he was living out his dream and it got taken from all of a sudden like not saying like him getting the plane the NHL the rest of his career. Mike Nice Nice to see bounceback story but this guy wanted to get back to where he was what caliber he was. So congratulations to him and That's That's quite the story. I actually really Kind of thought of some personal experiences. When I saw an interview I almost I did get a little emotional washing. When he talked about his parents and you saw him look up to his parents in the stands and are just remember. When I knew I couldn't like move anymore and Skate. I remember being an Edmund Ten. My Dad was visiting me and I was playing at the time but I was playing poorly in. Couldn't move and just knew it was ending and we were sitting around and he's like he could tell. I was just so like depressed and like he's just when you were growing up you're always so happy or smiling and he was getting emotional. You know kind of showing me that he he saw like when you don't have what you love all you've done like it's so hard for a parent to go through that I mean. Imagine the kid and senior like I have. We have right now and the worst thing in the world is when you see your child like suffering and so. I thought I'd like him bring up his parents and getting emotional just shows. There's so much more game than like a player in his career. So much work goes into it and the thing about mind that makes his even crazier is mine was an ankle and and I was like you know mentally. I always find meal. Yeah was depressed but in terms of like Kim is dealing with his head. You don't have you don't even know I was going to be. Oh I was going to be Living a normal life. Let's put it that way. There was probably a time when you see your you see your son like suffering and not even knowing like when his life will get normal again not even thinking about playing hockey and so that's why that was just a really cool thing to see because a comeback take so much effort blood sweat and tears people say and then it takes like loved ones and friends and family and that's what really helped him get back and so to see him recognize them. I think mental ought not only to me but a lot of people. Yes parents ray and noreen were on the House to see him score sexual one four zero point out it was. It was definitely a pretty cool moment. So let's hope he has a healthy season. I did want to mention today. I show is brought to you by the good people at Thursday boot company a bootstrap startup. 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I don't think I would ever wear cowboy boots enough to get like sick pair like that. Yeah I think when you're in Texas. I think it's like a lot down there. You have to Fuck Eric Cowboy boots really John. I'm joking this is rising one though you gotta get some Nice ones. The ones that have the Cobra heads on the receipt so people where the craziest shit man I I think. Turk lighting his gator skin. If I remember it's going to be walking around fucking a Scottsdale Arizona I could. Hey there's cave creek around here. There's like Shane dones got a place. He's got a bunch of horses and Shit. I'M GONNA get those ones at the cobras on the end. Pretty Wild Bill Elliott. Friedman had a little bit of Olympic Update Upper Elliot the IOC. In the I H F indicated a willingness last week to address jealous us to get players to go to the twenty twenty two Olympics. This includes insurance cost travel costs and the ability to promote on their own platforms as Elliot notes. This is a significant policy change and reversal from what had been indicated months earlier. Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly told. Nhl Dot Com. The League still wants to tie Olympic participation into CBA talks about the NHLPA fields. It shouldn't be a fact because the current CBA extends past the twenty twenty two games and now it gets a little boring awhile. Basically both sides need to agree. There are more talk scheduled. But needless to say it's a pretty big development Olympic participation looks much better today than it did say a month ago. Yeah I think it's fair. I think the deal that the Olympic Committee presented to the NHL Fair. But from somebody. Who's trying to look at it from neutral ground? I don't know how much the Olympics are profiting financially from having NHL players. In it. If I can if if somebody can give me that number I can say well. That's not if they're making three hundred million dollars and these owners are sending over players. Who are under these big contracts? Okay don't like somebody tried to use the slave comparison like they're not slaves and on my dude they're under contract making high ends of money here. Okay so you're going to send it off. Send them off to something to to play in tournament. That does not benefit them in any way financially. At that moment I'm not saying the exposure won't grow the game therefore franchise values get bigger but for right now they also have to look at it to please their own fanbase there may be people paying for Chicago. Blackhawks tickets on not saying all of them that care far more about Chicago Blackhawks and Patrick Kane being healthy for their cup run as opposed to him going off to the Olympics with four five other of his teammates. Well that's at least how it went a couple of years ago when when they did go the first time right. 'cause I was there I believe Seabrook was seabrook on team Canada. Yeah so they had a lot of guys there so as a fan. You're like we'll do. I have any say I'm paying for tickets and I I WANNA see this team be successful north or the NHL side of it. A lot of people say will whatever? It's the players writes in. That's fine but you are under contract for League where you have been promised a lot of money. They don't want you going to get hurt. Something that's not that they're not profiting off of if they're making three hundred million. I think stroke the owners a check for. I don't know divvy it up how each day goes from every team and then there's also in consideration of the fact that the don't the other players in that League have say that the League has to shut down for two to three weeks or whatever it is. They may in fact like the break. I don't know there are so many fucking variables involved keeping everybody happy that. I don't think it's just easy to say like. Oh the owner's being scumbags that don't let them go right my crazy no not crazy at all. I don't I don't think there's a group of people in the world. You could take all the die hard international best on best hockey fans and just put them all together and they wouldn't want NHL players in the Beijing Olympics as much as the other players in the NHL who aren't going to be on the team's Olympic breaks with the best thing of all time. It was like twelve days everyone went to Hawaii some. You could go wherever you wanted. Guys loved it. It was so much time off and everyone enjoyed. It wasn't going to the Olympics and then the Olympics guys love going there as well so it really is a thing that all players love. I think that this statement or whatever came out that we're talking about. I think after seeing that that they're going to be there that's Mike. That's my gut feeling. I think they're I think they'll end up being there and I will also say this. This is the side them on. I think that the deal that they offered as the NHL. If that was going to be the final offer that they were offered I would accept it. Especially at the fact that you're allowed to promoter of your own social channels the fact that the I believe there what's at they also said. I think you can use. I think I read that the NHL be able to use the Olympic logos and stuff. Which means then you can get it on the board. You get guys jerseys like I'm pretty sure that it was it was. It was agreed upon that they'll be able to use logos of up from the Olympics. Maybe it was just video I read but I thought it was kind of both. But you're also getting that national exposure if you're looking to grow the game. And as I mentioned the franchise values going up if you do so in other areas of the world if it ends up expanding who knows where it's going right we don't. We don't know that's what the goal is getting a big. They're just like basketball has. And now you've got a fucking then get a lot of billy goats on your and so I would say take the deal. Because I think overall it's going to be beneficial to everyone if they do go with the deal in place right now but I'm not GONNA if they end up deciding. Hey this is as much as we're going to give you and the NHL says piss off. I'M NOT GONNA fucking hammer down on them for it lately. Said before we love to have them hopefully they. Do you know if I can add up to the owners but good reporting by Buddy Elliot. That's good stuff and like you said it looks better than it did before a couple of quick notes before we get through the interview. Granola stunt double quint us. Yeah Quinn Quinn Hughes of the axes the second rookie. Defenseman IN NHL history to record four three assist gamed in the season joining. Rebac from seventy nine eighty He passed such guys as Leach. Chellios Alexi Zhitnik Between him and kill mccown man. I think that's going to be like a basically these two guys going head to head for the Nour's for the next fifteen twenty years it feels like I'm Biz all men. It's it's it's crazy and since I tweeted that tweet always when he gets a point now. I'm reminded because I wasn't saying it to offend connects or or Quin Hughes. When I said I think at the time was once last time we saw rookie defenseman dominate this much and that really set them off. They're like There's one north of ordering the idiot. So hey putting. I'm going to concede this. At the time I would have considered. Macara the front runner for the for the rookie of the year. I would say based on games played points. And the fact that you know analytically. They're saying Quinn Hughes has more responsibility than than car. At this moment. In time in the season I would say it's neck and neck race and maybe even miniscule advantage to Quin Hughes so it's the race's on this is going to be fucking finding now I believe Elvis's even thrown his name in the mix. Would you guys agree on that as well by? I don't think he's GonNa catch those to these guys are having a very special season. Right now has been audiences if he continues the lighted up the rest of the way. You could have a legit argument. I mean the numbers that stretch games yet I if he continues that it'll be the greatest goal of all time. I don't think it's possible. But all all really if he continues his number now. D- Do I don't know I see his full numbers are now talking about during the win streak. I think it was. What was it? Eight games at five shots. Give me another five shutouts. And they can squeak in and he keeps his goals against it. Like one point five then we can talk about throwing his hat in the mix doing what these two defense would have been doing the entire season long. This is very special. This is cool man. The League's League's integrate pipes. No doubt about it Speaking of the connects Tuesday. I believe it was tweeted out an old goal. I think it was Daniels Dean when he when he I went between his legs. He avoided poke check and went. Went fucking tops. Top Shelf on a dude. Well that very night. Maduka checks could fall basically the exact same goal like he pulled the puck back to avoid the poke check and went right upstairs. It was just funny. That connects tweeted out the video and then that ninety scored the same type of goal. I didn't see the tweet. Do you remember who was against? Calgary doesn't even matter. I think it was probably the KIPRUSOFF. Your shirt I'm pretty sure that's the goal that won one of the city's scoring title is the last game of the year we asked the X. Kubota when we interviewed him. So that'll be dropping at some point but we talked about that game and that goal but Matthew Chuck He. He's he's taken over quickly between the legs guy in the NHL Single Star Games and Biz every month to season. I believe he's been a topic of conversation whether it's been drew doughty once then twice then the whole cast situation. The goal of Nashville between the Goal Nashville at the end of last season. No this between the legs all this year beginning of the year. Oh my God. I figured that was like six years ago. Cd works but yeah he's been he's been a human highlight reel slash content machine absolutely Gee We want to send a big thanks out to Rob Carlton. He's with on the PONT CANDIDATE DOT COM He's been absolutely huge for US. Setting up these hockey tournaments. Ged Ghaffar us. Yeah this guy's been a Rockstar for us. He's doing a ton of stuff behind the scene for the pond hockey tournament. That's going to be happening in been in Lake Muskoka. He does run a website like Ra said on the pond. Canada DOT COM. And that's where he runs his tournaments and small little tournament but still give it some love if you can. If you didn't get into the BARSTOOL tournament Again disguise been a Rockstar for us and and none of it happens without him. 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You Bang smoke comes up out of an old old joints but I appreciate you coming back on dude. What's The for the weekend? You know what what skill you'll be represented pass a skater. Do your research out there. The two thousand twenty. Nhl also skills presented by. How's IT NEW AMSTERDAM VODKA? You gotta get that pink. Whitney is our drink actually I was gonna Chug a whole bottle and then do the lab. Chance Yeah just doing. The fastest skater and then Then the shootout. I think like everyone does a shootout against the goal goalie challenged. So that's it. Honestly you skate hot lap. And then you're done for the night you'll you'll just chilling on the bench after that you should be the interview guy last year. I think I. I don't know if I was Mike. The for that or this. The actual game but yeah. There's a there's a lock on its you kind of want to get a little more involved. But there's a there's kind a lot of pressure and you have a puck on your sticking. Everyone's watching. Everyone can skate. Laugh to get nervous during warm. That's why I used to keep my helmet on. I don't want that attention. You know people are staring at you. Stick handle in just you. That's true now I mean it's like three years come in here that it's just a hot lap and then you're done then you're done that's was going to say third one already you. What twenty three twenty three. And they still guys you still looking forward to going out seeking maybe grabbing a stick assured or something like that. Yeah I mean whenever you come to these year with With all the best players in the world so it's You know it's really cool to be around a lot of them in a lot of these guys have. Honest played with and whether it's The entity P or world championships. Oh It's just nice to see them again aides or anyone that you would get nervous to go up to. I don't know about nervous anymore. Like I think my first one when I walked in the locker room and Tampa and sit in lovie were there and like some of the like he just that then you get a little nervous. Because I'd never I'd never met either of them before so that was kind of like doc- eye opening and then You hang around them and you know they're obviously really cool guys so you've got to get to know him a little more Are you at the point? Now has has been Has the trainer come over and said Hey I got a scientist for someone in the other room is that happened yet Yeah Yeah I mean. I think that there's always a your ten. They want the sticks but I think you never know right because so many guys do charities in the summer and they're getting sticks and But yeah I mean. I think that there's some guys have kids that wants to. I mean I know in our locker like We had Palmdale the last few years. He's he's got a kid who's like old enough to follow the game and he's a big fan he plays he's really good so he's always asking Palmer to get other guys sticks on other teams for himself so I mean I think that's pretty cool now as far as the fastest skater. Any state in the laney anything of that sort on the line. Honestly I just gotTa make sure. I get a good warm-up before I wanna WanNa hurt myself and Fear doing that pops that one I am. I texted Mills E team. I WANNA call her a couple of them calling Miller. I don't know if I told you has that story But on my cake teamed up for some stories and he goes I. I don't know that well yet and I was surprised to hear that. Because he's such a great guy. He is great. I To hang out with Michael. I took me to catch this year for the first time. Ever been to pets. Yeah should've mentioned that. I took to catch her New York. City actually Him and huts were complaining and we were going to a later. Dinner like eight. Eight o'clock eight thirty like that's not Lake City circuit and a pulse. That does yeah exactly. That's what you're looking for. I can't be early later. Eaten at ten o'clock. If you want the I was gonNA say usually you're getting in there nine thirty or so. Probably Mills girlfriend your little research being like. Oh why such a late dinner? It's called catch. Yeah no no. One's there don't worry. Don't worry seafood place right tack though. It alluded now Lewis. Who talked about awesome season? You haven't did you do anything different. Approaching this season I was just you think natural progression of a game I don't know I think I just wanted to score more goals this year. I think That was kind of one of my big goals going into the season. And you know in the off season just trying to work on that and I can't really like say one thing that I would pinpoint on On the success are starting to shoot lower. Like it's that's really simple to say but like you talked a lot of goalscorers lot of guys shoot low and makes it tougher in the goalie I don't want to give my tricks away to the goaltender on. Well now I know I was gonNA say like we were at the world championships and like paddock. Canes always talking about how. He always shoots low and She had fifty last year. And he's a he's a pretty a goal scorer so Yeah I know I just shoot shoot more pucks low and I mean. I don't know like just chemistry with your linemates. Sometimes it clicks and You know our players given the beginning of the year hasn't been as good so lately but I can't really pinpoint one thing okay. Well you've already tied career high angles twenty eight with their point win. Like you always had coaches telling you shoot it more right. You're shots on real. You've kind of been like a look to pass guy. There must have been times. I is as last year. When when you're like dude how did I not shoot that like Fi sonically like enough no? Yeah for sure I mean I think I passed up a lot of opportunities in in the last few years to shoot the PUCK. So it's I mean it makes sense that You score more when you shoot. So He'd be like dead slot like knowing who's looking to give a guy back taffy snapshots ninety four miles bills. You the catch is probably putting off the team. Dinners on the board every night Probably a bitter taste in your mouth. After the way last season went you guys had such a great start this year. You guys had another fairly good start. And then all of a grenade on g but you know this year you guys dealt with a few injuries but with your play. You've been been able to keep your team afloat that what's what's different this year. Obviously the new coach talk about that. The coach is a huge huge. Like huge part in that. I mean he's so good like what you you had them for office. I remember woody text this summer after him getting hired he gets hired and kind of no one knew anything about him. And then you just Kinda hear stuff from other people like I remember you text me. There's a few other people that hit me up and said stuff about him in like everything was so good and then I met with them in Slovakia at the world championships I think he was already in Europe and he came over to Slovakia and he was like you WanNa go grab a cup of Coffee Day and we went for coffee and we talked for like an hour and then like we were just like you WanNa go to dinner and me and him went to end up going to dinner right after and then we had like a three hour dinner and you know. Some of the conversation was some conversations about hockey but a lot of it was about like who talked about everything from cars to rock and roll to vacations politics. He somebody who you talk to about anything. And he's like a professional in terms of. He's a professional everything when he talks. It's like you're like he's so intelligent and he handles our room so well like he never lets his emotions. Get the best of them. Flee play bad we have a bad game and and instead of the usual like come in and kick the trash barrel. Let us have it. He kinda he saves. It doesn't say anything and you know. He regroups with us in the morning and he delivers a really really good message. And after he delivers that message ruins like Holy Shit. I'll play right now. He wants. You know what I mean. So he does a really good job of that and I mean everyone on like I don't think there's not a guy in the team I could say bad things about him in Edmonton the the year that he was there. It was the lockout shortened season. We we had a chance at the playoffs that the trade deadline we were in the eighth spot ended up obviously falling apart and they fired him by skype. It's well-known but you couldn't find one guy on the on that oilers team to have said like that he should have been fired. It was when you see that when a team doesn't make the playoffs in a guy gets fired. You're like wow. That was not his fault and so right away as he needs to get another chance and then I was excited to see that it was buffalo because I knew you guys would hit it off and I just think the way. He approaches not the game but like life every life. Yeah he's a good morning. How you doin' and just like it's that new that new age of coaching. That is so much better. So how is it in the locker? That chirpin guys instead down on on I like that. I mean he definitely he has like a he's a he's a very good presence about him. he demands respect and Everyone gives it to him. And he's not that Lucy like that but He can definitely have conversations with you about other things that are in hockey and he takes interest in your life and your family and I think that that's another reason why guys respect him so much as you can have some. You can have a conversation with him about something other than hockey or going on the locker room Oh I was GONNA ask You know there's been debates going on about Calma car and Karen Hughes who the bus. Young defensemen is and and Darlene a lot of people seem to think that this kid has even close to reaching his Thomas. No he hasn't no. I don't think so obviously had the injury that he dealt with early in the year he had a really good start to the season. I don't know how many points they had last year but I mean he didn't turn nineteen till after the season was over which is pretty crazy and like if you if you spent time round number if you like practice against them like some stuff he doesn't practice is pretty absurd and even like he shows spurts of hitting games and I I like you said. I don't think he's even scratched the surface. And you know diese tough position. I think You Know Quinn Hughes and and In CALMA CAR. Seven huge ears but You know I think when we see we see. Rask like me. His full potential. He's going to be unstoppable. Like like compared to who type is it. I think he's different. It's weird differen-. He's literally underneath a Myers. Scary one. Because of what he did but he he can roam around like I was gonna say he's so skilled like he almost thinks the game like a forward but he plays D. and he'll he'll finish checks and like I calm the worm like he's so he Harry's like fucking elbow back. His name is Perry for different reasons. Both slippery psych He's just like so lucy and like he'll just like put the puck on radio and I'm like get their siding with the puck passes out in the middle of of a move he the other day he had a clip go viral. He didn't even score. But it was just so ridiculous toe drag. We're like that. That has to be a forward. He told the first guy or put it between the guy's legs and then he told the second guy didn't even need to tell you the second guy but he did and he's He's unbelievable but Yeah obviously the injury this year which is tough everytime everytime he data and the head and you miss time. It's never easy. But he's yeah he's been really good for us. I mean he's he's a tremendous players. Only going to get better you at an eighteen game point streak earlier. I don't care what the NHL says. It's not point streak. It's an point streak. How did they say if you miss a game streak ends Kinda Yeah? Let's let's at least if you're on a spin and that's that's so stupid. Yeah it is. It is yeah. It's frustrating that that that was the reason that they ended obviously You know in you can't go. You can't go and that's that's tough but Yeah I mean it's I don't know I guess it's the League rules. I didn't know that that was the rules and I mean it's obvious you're like a little ticked off by it. Oh Yeah for sure you are. I mean I would be yeah. It was You're saying anything wrong and it was one of those things I thought. Maybe it was so a lot of people seem to think that they should have just kept it going where I thought maybe they were. GonNa change their mind because they had to go to the panel on the marlow situation. So I thought maybe they would reverse yours but Everyone can probably understand your frustration. Or you don't want to say the wrong thing and I could say like I was ticked off about it. Of course yeah. I mean I had a couple of things going on among that and and I was dealing with some Some lingering injuries and so I'll just leave it out. Mba Call it when they when they sick is considerably load. Management wasn't load management that was That was the only reason I used to get healthy. Scratch but We Love Krueger. But he's going a little crazy now he's bringing in the load management I had a great I have had a great ability. Talk about the Swedish guys and what they come into the league. I mentioned allies. Patterson and he lifted up why talked about all of sin. All preseason public disguise snapshot. It's insane. Did you hear what I had mentioned him? In your being foolish third right now for the for the rookie of the year probably right. He's missed some time. He was taken offer while they're always he had a great. He had a really good start and then he like he. We all kind of cooled off. Our team wasn't doing well and then Then he started taking off again like he's he's just the more confidence he gets the better And is shot like you said it's like I told my dad this year before the season on like this guy gets forty and asleep if he wants house like this is the best. This is probably one of the best shots. Urban wastelands wait now. We got to find out where you're getting your Swedish information wet by played with this kid in. Modo only I was over in. Modo and I told you last. Two Games minus seven retired on the on the bench after the first period with this kid is on the team. Ause I who is his he was a hundred and fifty pounds and he had quick feet and then he would take a snapshot from the top of the circles bartow. It's insane isn't it? He comes in and practice and the goal is. Don't yeah elbow in every time. Any takes a one timer at them and it's just zip right by their ear like it's crazy how he shoots the PA. Does he walk off? The ice your typical sweeter. He's Cool. He's dressed nice. Yeah I mean. He dresses well. And he's like he's he's a really really good guy is pretty. He's pretty quiet. Like how old was he when he played with you? These eighteen at eighteen and he wasn't even like playing. Would you agree Swedish guys when they come in the League? All Recommend Larson said a word in the locker room for five years. They're just so respect. Yeah they are yeah. I think it's well see we have A. We have a lot of Swedes on our team. And and and they're all unbelievable guys like and it's great. We have Marcus Johansson this year. And he's kind of an older guy so You know they got all kinds of look up to him and he's able to like he's able to bring them along. We have a lot of young ones but They're all such. They're all such good guys like it's it's it's awesome having them in the room like you said there so respectful. I think it might have something to do. With the fact that they played in the a lot of them come from the Swedish league where they have their already in that professional setting and I think the older guys in that league really good job of kind of teaching them the right way to go about things and they're all so respectful and they're all great guys like they're all tall guys. You want in your room. Is He no disrespect. I know you're the captain of team. But he almost like the Swedish cabinet. Oh Yeah for sure. Yeah no absolutely. I think that that's a he's he's so valuable to our team. You know for that reason. I was feeling a lot of young Swedes but You know he's such a he's such a good voice in the locker room and he's obviously sick player while I was going to ask about the the bills. Run a ball fan and them as your team when you move there pats fan. Yeah I I would say. I'm definitely still a pass. Fan At heart Number one but I do love the bills now. Yeah there It's awesome like getting a fall and obviously the city so crazy about them and Kind of built a little relationship at the quarterback Josh Allen and Just seeing what he did this year he had really good year. So I'm definitely big fan and I was hoping they were going to win. That and fans probably love that the best one of the best players if not the best player for the bills and the SABRES are they're out grabbing beers on the town together until five. Am when people on Chippewa Street? Just like hugging each other. One big person has a picture of Alan on his phone. The other has a picture of Eichel and they're just arm-in-arm having beers wing hat on a couple of bath blues. I remember I mean my first couple of years in the lead the those sabres teves drury Briere. They were so good and I like playoff time that it's going to be insane if you can get in. I know when whenever Palmer talk about it last year. He was on those teams so whenever he would talk about what it was like when when they're in the playoffs like all the people in the plaza and the game just a complete. Do you see about the bills when the bills start doing. Well it's it's crazy how How the city reacts to it. Yeah I mean obviously the same divisions the pats but I was even rooting them this year. They just such a good story. But who do you like in the big game coming up price? Akc Yeah you know. It's tough to get the same hairdo as we make your promise if you guys. If the Buffalo Sabres make playoffs we will travel there in the first round. And we'll let anyone from your city Power Slam Ra through a table. How about that? And then put down the board holy smoke well actually actually will put. Grenell Ian that wagon t shirt when he cursed you guys lying flat on the table and then somebody can take off the only sits in a dunk booth. But it's not what Asher. It's acid negotiate my field. So yeah we're coming if you guys do you guys talk Carson. You guys in that locker dartboard with his face on it. No not at all. I know we don't I feel like maybe cult people mentioned it back home just because we have a lot of mutual friends but That's probably it. It was a good t shirt. I'll stand by my boy on that. It was just it was just. It was just a team that just you know didn't have it. This year is now. Hey I want to ask so we ask you about players and the guys are playing with but I got a chance to also be coached by Steve Smith assistant he and he ran the DNA Edmonton won a Stanley Cup. Awesome guy ever seen a guy walk around with more swagger. He's still relax. Unbelievable hops in the bike. He's like six four great shape too He goes Every every every home game. He's on the I don't even know what it's like Elliptical Machine. Ya and he just gets gets in. That checks the golf station on. He's just buzzing watching the golf station every day. He just walks back. He just walked back to the locker. Who's this Steve Smith Twenty? Nhl Long Time he guy off. Not because he's he walked. He used to walk to the game. Which Vega also Aga- hanging down and I just figured he'd do the same thing like the old oilers teams with like Gretzky. Yes GonNa be scalding me for that. I can't even remember guys. Names play for the coyotes. Still pretty much. I'd say one of the classic rock guys of the NHL. Did you catch any good concerts since we last I went to the stones summer. Did you see him in Foxborough? Yeah which which think thought it was great. I mean I get amazed these guys my father's age. My father can take ten minutes to get here. And these guys are ripping off. It's going to say. Yeah Yeah Yeah they put on a hell of a show they were buzzing around the stage and I remember how how long they played for a couple of hours. Yeah yeah they were. They were unbelievable. Will you give me a little breakdown of so say you have a game Tuesday night at home and then you don't play Thursday. Whatever so you guys finished the game. You obviously have a goal the next day you have to to the rank. What are you doing after practice? You GOING BACK NAP GUY. Playing Video Games. How do you feel your time on the off days? Yeah I'm going home and taking a shot full shots. He lights off in the bed like two three hours out cold. Yeah the best part of pro hockey. It's unbelievable Shane. Don't would never take a nap lot. Well why doesn't he it? Didn't he have a bunch of kids running around wall but you would think on the road he'd want to catch up on sleep even on the road. I wouldn't APP but I mean but now saying that a couple of times I didn't because I couldn't fall asleep and I just stayed up. They say when you naps for some people it just completely drains you for the rest of the day like Oh yeah so but but I was one of those guys. I usually like to take him out. Well that was probably because I was three in the morning too. I mean I love a good shot. See but there's a lot of A Lotta guys. Don't sleep I. I think that's probably like I feel a lot of the older guys. DoN'T SLEEP. They don't sleep at home because they got kids and then when they go on the road they're like oh. I don't see them at all and I'll let sleep. I I do know cooking for you or your cooking. Dinner every night with style. Chef Oh okay. Let's get into the chef. Just told her to go friend with all right very good knowing you take my wife would laugh at. I don't give a shit. She wouldn't give off. I Love Lucy. I actually heard that. I heard that he picked up almost guy from Pittsburgh. He's now in Buffalo. So let's talk about your chef. Yeah Yeah he's unbelievable. He comes over on game days cooks the boys pre game meal. Sit at the kitchen table and then So you invite all the guys over. There's a couple of guys that come over here a couple of other guys. Use them like Like Rhino uses a little bit Gordon uses them a little bit now. Oak STARTED COMING OVER FOR PRE game meal. And it's pretty nice like the boys you sit at the kitchen table Hot Stove. Shoot the shift for like an hour. And you just cooks cooks up the pre-game and we just sit there and watch. Tv Like Stop Dreaming Snuggling in your King Sized. Then they'll drive home or go back to their house and I stay at the House and sh shut it down for a couple of hours but no it's so nice just because you don't WanNa be one out to dinner every night and like if he's not going to be at the house he'll just leave food they're like he's he's in and out of the house all the time and It's unreal like I. I started getting really big into nutrition a couple years ago and This summer I hired I don't know if you don't Allen Campbell like he's he wrote He wrote the TB twelve like diet part of the book Like he was the person that kind of started like Brady Diet with them and so he's out of Boston so I actually worked with him. This summer and He opened my mind to a lot of different things with nutrition. And and what to do and I wouldn't say craziest Brady is but You know definitely try and try and be smart with whether meeting. Connor garland started using that diet as well. So you get your blood tested and figure out what? Maybe you're more allergic to. How how did you do so I asked him about that? And and Yeah like you get your blood drawn. And then they would say like what you're tolerant too or what you're not intolerant to and his thing with that was like you're GonNa Change so like what you might be tolerant to now like. You might not be tolerant to in six months so I ended up doing that. I just Kinda he just Kinda. We went over like what? I'm doing my training schedule You know what I like to eat what I don't like and and You know through that he His diets really strict in the summer. Obviously not playing much so I find you have to eat a little. Bit Better Whereas during the season you're burning so many calories during games and stuff you kind of need to eat a little more and But both You know both chefs have been Have been huge for me. Take any out good vacation since we last talked to go to any funky places I went to Mykonos last summer. Or use right. Yeah Yeah. It is unbelievably. I definitely recommended the beaches like everything you need like. If you WANNA go out and mix it as much as you want you can like if you wanna mix it in the middle of the day or at night you can or if you WANNA go hang out at the pool or beach like. There's so many beautiful places to do that. It's if you. WanNa relax when he was shopping? Like just everything and the weather's the weather's perfect the water's nice. The water's actually a little chilly. But it's clean It's a great spot. The FOODS AMAZING TRIP. The boys always out within after It was actually after the world. Championship bunch of the guys went down. A couple of girls went down so It was good actually went with Noa Hannifin and his girlfriend and That was a great trip so calm. Some a couple of the boys were down there. We went to Play Scorpio Mykonos. It's like it's like a club on the beach. That's definitely I'm definitely a Moscow. If you're there There's a lot of its toppled disco biscuits suspicious just hopping on his phone right now. Just Google expensive business much assist cost so you from the Super Bowl Party for the team or is there one well? I'm just looking at the schedule. Hey us off the next day. I'm sure we'll price. We'll probably snap something together. Shut the house. We'll go somewhere or have it happen at someone's house who who's the court dressed her in the locker room who's who's the clown who's telling the jokes getting the boys going and what the fuck is reinhard up to Rhino. Let's get aww just like. He has nobody stories. He can't tell by either. I wish I could. I wish I could dive into a couple of smallpox. Pasha's good friends with a few others. When they're all together to the three brothers their it's well. We lived together for a couple of years and you get a tandem bikes. Yeah it was He's like he's just You know he is when he gets going and just He's a he's a treat but he's He's recently single. He's back on the market. So all right. We're doing a spitting chicken slash. Nhl Bachelor so he's going to be definitely be one of the guys. Yeah that'd be it'd be good to get him It'd be good to get them on their. That'd be hilarious. You see this season this guy this season you just make the girls the whole episode. That'd be right. I'm not really worried about what you're saying. GonNa make out. We'll see it again Always comfortable in front of the camera. He was a star in Bisbee see. I don't know if you've seen that I watched it. When's business the East Coast Muskoko Skoca? I'm going to have a fucking jam or if I work any harder. I think I'm cranking out ninety hour. I know actually you don't stop. Yeah we'll talk to you guys man impressive I want. I want to go to meet you. Don't WanNa see what Greece looks like. Nice I just don't want to be selling Promo codes anymore seriously. Swipe the fuck up exploiting no no go ahead speaking movies you kill time on the planes watch movies data or are you more of a guy like arts okay. Game we play seven up seven down good action or kind of weak action for how much money everyone house. 'cause you know what I mean. Who THEIR CARD players? So it's it's me McCabe Johansen and Bogo at the table. Which can you explain the game a little? I'm not I don't think from Hogan based game. So we play. We play thirteen cars. Everyone gets thirteen cards and So I you have to call. How many tricks you think you're GONNA get and after you call like the whoever the dealer is you can't call the exact amount. Cd there have to call one over and one under and then you just try and get your trick so likes narves at all. It's very similar. Yeah it's similar but it's it's a rainman version of it's more complicated like it was hilarious. We always play. We always played schneider in your hands and comes on the plane this year. It's like well play cards if we play thirteen. Thirteen down or seven up seven down. Kinda like refresh us a little bit on the game so he does whole team and he just burying US every trip we're paying on like he's his points are like he's like one hundred and fifty points for the rest of us. Were like all right here you go. You're good just kicking him though the whole year like he's no wonder you wanted to play this game. Then we play schnapps and he's staying sites. Lean out by the way busy when he played. He's never go to court because no one would play war against fish around the boys going up asking for advances on their first paycheck. Aches is like Ralph. He's burying us back there. He just talked to the owners shooting fish in a barrel. Take your money. I get that extra per diem pack. Nobody PICKED UP THE CAR. Tables there in in On the plane I've been. I've been pretty funny over the years. We had a great pots. Yeah he's anybody get ballsy and decided deal blackjack now. I haven't got the blackjack going. No no I feel like I feel like you know like the old days guys are playing for so much money. Poll and like it was kind of insane. Like I've heard some stories on this podcast and from other people about like the card games getting out of Control. It's like the contracts have gone up the plots have gone awol. Jr were basically NBA status. That's unbelievable that's hilarious to hear like that's like you kind of that. I think it's to think of own teammate. Forty ks like that is late me at all and me twenty. It's flattering to hear. That listened to the podcast. Because you mentioned that you heard a few those stories before this interview started. You mentioned Cam Johnson. Being one of your favorite guys that we've had which we just had on again and he's been advil. Listen to this one. I think he dropped about three quarters of the amount of F. bombs so it's not too bad so you could probably let your kids listen all people Who Follow but what was it? That stuck out in that interview. What are some stories and his energy was unbelievable? A hugest buzzing the whole time and yeah like you said every other word every other word was the F bomb like. I don't know there is a few of us that listen to it together and we were all. We were all howling over it. I thought it was hilarious so I would imagine you like wall. She from from Boston's Chris in the wall sheets. I've listened to a good amount of them. Yeah like if I can't sleep at night I'll throw in on and just you know. Lay there in bed or something or if I'm on like from traveling or something I throw it on a pretty good amount like Like podcast a lot so wall she telling a Bertrand being like we taking the police task when wall mystery games in the minors. The Guy who's taking the police during three games gate the fact that they plan on the same fucking team. That's nuts. Oh my God listen to I like row again. Like depending on who has Fears good guests ellison to honestly that's probably it like you guys in Rogan That's up for your compliment. I like he's got some. He's got some good Some good people that go on there. Some real interesting yeah. He's all right. Guy. I'll listen to listen to those to do it. It's pretty crazy like seeing the comments of I don't know if you've you've even read this but McCain and Kane and parcel and headman. They're all talking about you like Baras calling you. The Best Skater in the league. It must be wild to really understand and see that like you have reached this this superstar level and to see your that your peers talk about you that way. How does that feel? I think it's a huge compliment And it was really humbling like we. I don't know it's it's sort of thing. Where like you? We talk about each other like that all the time. I I find like especially when you get to these events in your around these guys in your planning. It's like you're playing with these guys against them all year. But I don't know like you could. You could run down the list to so many guys that if you could just talk talk about for hours like Barzel hadn't been like you know what I mean. These are these guys are like. They're they're so good mackinnon. I mean these are guys that I throw on at home to watch you know every night. So it's I mean it's a huge compliment but It's a little surreal. Goes BACK FOR THEM? Yeah of course it is You know the same goes back for them. You're going to check out the women's game Friday night. I think it's going to be the most competitive thing all week. We have big action on this. This grant I got. Yeah isn't it. It's not It's not. It's burn during the all-star it's not during the skills right. Yes yes so no. I mean I'll definitely I'll definitely check it out I actually I know a pretty good amount of them With training that Mike Boyle's Jim in the summer a lot of the He had the Olympic team for a while. And a lot of the girls. Still train there and Going to be you like I've met a few of them and Like I knew that pool in from view and and doing like some of the Bauer events that you do in the summer you meet some of them right right obviously Paul for the USA. Yeah of course yeah you always got to refer you guys got what are we? What are we got going on now? We got the game and thing that's right. I'm doing a NHL Twenty hockey event the sports hockey event. And Eichel's coming over. We gotTa Matthew Could Chuck who else. I think there's going to be gone. I talked to him yesterday. South Jones will be there fun. How `bout that Biz could make you a ninety nine in the video game now. Like pays has control over ratings adjuster. Do you play bits honest with you and someone told me. Yeah I sleep watch. Tv like huge movie Guy. So I watch a lot of movies but someone told me yesterday. I'm playing. I didn't know what I didn't really know what I'm getting into today. But someone told me yesterday. That playing against a professional Gamer Masher no. I don't think it was his name's though so the by the hundred and nothing if you don't play though I don't play at all I'm going to get route. A stroke him fat check. He's going to show up. He's GonNa kiss some baby signed some autographs and that's how she goes baby. No they should be having to gamers and then you and another NHL on like a team with them because they're just going to see you get roast Camp Janssen's fistfight again at the front in while they're playing a game. Yeah I mean I'M GONNA GET SMOKED. But whatever do. I'm not really weird Any other funny stories from from the season so far that you'd like to share with our guests Were you GONNA say trip? Dad's it. Yeah how is that? It was good you score all Zeros. He's he's tried so disappointed. Went Out Nashville though. That was good after the game. We played Saturday and grandma. Got To stick around. Actually I'll ask you this Which bars you hanging out in Buffalo? Like what are the places that are fun to go to and and you? You're shaking your head part of that. I'm not giving away our secrets but sometimes you probably want a little bit of a pulse. Yeah I mean you host a restaurant and club Honestly my spots and buff like prime my number one place ago. It'd be mothers. It's kind of like a little dive bar. You can eat food there all night like no one really bothers you. It's kind of uh like it's such a small city when when you go out like you never know what type of crowd you're going to get. I like the clube places so just to kind of stay. Stay from getting bothered. I kind of go to this place. It's good like they play tremendous music and It's usually pretty good little vibe Like little cross nate Dogg No like they play like they play like good raw or like nineties rock or like grunge or like they'll play whatever you honestly you could just tell them to play on your in your own food. You could do whatever you want. Various places like a lot of people go to this place. Their record room Greasy like my pop in there once or twice a year but not much. There's just so many people in there and like you said like the bars go to four. Am so you're just seeing people get like dragged out and Wheel Barrels? You just make it till four am. It's it's like the Mykonos overseas because you don't show up to the of the shuttle Dinner Talk One. Am over there It yeah I mean I don't know there's there's a couple of places that a lot of people go but I don't go out a whole lot in office for whatever reason it's like pissing contest like there's a two drunk guys at forty. I'm just staring at each other. That's WHO's GonNa Buckle Foreign Buffalo. Your buddies like you didn't drinking off man unacceptable. We now I mean I'm sure they make make it a long way but four. Am They have. Maybe I'm just old. After numb the pain of the next morning going to the bills game and getting suplex is though is people mix it so late and get so banged up on Saturday and the bills always have. The one o'clock always shared a still go fast. And then there there at the tailgate at nine thirty ten in their back at it. And it's like it's one call on the game they're done again carried on before kick-off it's crazy one o'clock but it's a great atmosphere. I don't know if you've ever seen a game there. It's kind of like going like a college game. No Shit at new airfield like the way that the fields built. It's like going to college game. Are these these people who these silly things at the Games local celebrities? I know there's one guy who gets Sprays CATCH UP and lost thirty. Yeah I don't know that you might hit me up this year stressing about come to a game and shoot him in the face of ketchup and mustard. Yeah there's there's a lot going on at those tailgates. There's there's so many different lots and parties heels mafia and they all have their own little sectors right and they are crazy just different bills. Tattoos on your neck signifies. We are tailgate scene. You just mentioned you like the movies. You got any our Oscar favorites or what? Anyone leaning towards I Dunno I'd like that once upon a time in Hollywood. I don't know if you saw Daddy. I watched it twice. Yeah what'd you think? I thought it was excellent. I mean it didn't have like a like a plot is typical. Yeah but it was just such a good story to fall. I didn't know what to think of it. After the first time I saw and then I was talking to my dad about it and he had just seen it and he likes Tarintino as well and we ended up talking about it for a while. And he's like we talked about that movie for forty minutes like that's how you know what's a good movie. Exactly piddly were violent. Yeah what's up? Brad Pitt was great. Knit and I thought it was a good movie but I don't know what else is up for Oscar. Well I've been. I've been singing parasites praises since I've started. It's a Korean movie subtitled. Which I know most Americans kind of go look. He sleeps all day. He's going too far home alone. Any any anyone out there listening. I think that's a favorite. It gets a bit of an underdog story but I would recommend Nineteen seventeen I thought it was the cinematography and it was excellent. I heard that's a good one that's that's the war movie right. Yeah Yeah Ford. Verse Ferrari Dude checked out one. You'll like that good soundtrack. Thing is I watch the same movies I've already seen over and over I know took this'll be right into the rotation will watch this one over and over as per number one movie on your lesson if it's on you're not turning the channel Said at home alone number one no shot even Christmas Time. Just one donald trump or not. No the first one. The person's unbelievable. I I absolutely love it. I don't know there's a couple of movies but that's probably up there Lot of Boston movies. I like big fan of the town. The town party those are I met One of our as CO stars yesterday. Jon Hamm Oh yeah that's right. I heard he's He's celebrity guests or something. I'll sell celebrity coach. I think for the Atlantic team. Nice no I think we have. The we have the girl from the office Oh Jennifer Hamm offices green office line. She's going to be like by the second period rolling. Arise what does she share them? All I what is she. That the comic celebrity depends. I think they might be on the bench like celebrity guests code all GonNa be call lines or whatever but well I. This is awesome man. It's pretty cool to see like what you've done and it just continues to get better and better. Thanks for coming on. Thanks thanks guys thanks you. Thanks Jack Cole. Buffalo it's a huge tax law pal. Jack Eichel like I said he's been on a bunch of us where we got a pretty good comfort level with them now so we always appreciate shooting the Shit with them. I did mention one of his teammates. Sam Reinhart the Alto little tiff with one of the media members of Buffalo Mike Carrington of the Buffalo News. He's no stranger having some dust dust up so what's in players and he basically accused Ryan had Quinton and Ryan not refused to answer his question and he was visibly pissed off. Biz. What was your take on Sandy. You had an aw man. We don't really see as many of these any more when you get the player media risks on. I don't know the backstory between the interviewer. Okay and here. Here's my break down the whole situation. Sometimes some of these media members their fans to. I don't know if this guy is but they take a little bit personal when they feel like they're not getting the effort and things have not been going well there for a long period of time where disres- falls to be the year. Dave imploded again unfortunately whereas they're playing the worst team in the league and on the second goal. So this goal I it ended up putting Detroit up two nothing and it was right at the end of the period. What the interviewer might not have known as Reinhardt was at the end of one minute. Forty five second shift. Apparently that's what I've been told so. I think there are buzzing offensively where it ended up being a break did away and he got caught was like the fucking kind of the last man back on a two on one. I think sometimes when you're out there that long you just don't have the legs you're done you're toast and he also probably realized it was very late in the period and then he could see the time winding down so he's pretty much in like not good decision making mode. The legs are shutting down. He's praying that that fucking clock goes to zero for the talk. Crosses the line in season from hell all of a sudden again they fucking go down to nothing and up losing that game in overtime the worst team league and this media members probably seen enough. And Reinhard situation doesn't look good and he gets the fuck and he gets challenged and Reinhard rightfully sold probably considering. He's like brawl. I it was a minute. Forty five seconds. And you'RE GONNA fuck teeny up for that right now. Like maybe took take a little bit of a deeper dive as to why the system shut down in the brain did to you gotta like but he but once again he hammered him on it and of course. Reinhardt was pissed but fast forward to Tuesday night against Detroit. Reinhard gets his redemption maybe too little too late for public opinion in Buffalo. Anyway but he gets the game winner saw least little bit redemption. I guess he was straight leg in the craze for the client and on video it looks kind of bad but I actually don't think he would have been able to do anything. Maybe we'll swing of the stick and he gets a penalty and Larkin dozen score. That's ideal so he could have. Maybe saved the goal but he had absolutely nothing chasing the fastest guys in the League thinks. Oh my God if this passes one centimeter of a way off the going to end and of course like you said he buries it with point one seconds we call it the chopstick dance. Agile mind and your knees anymore. The question as like nope former player or player ever wants to get asked that right after a loss but I understand why the guy asks he kept pushing it like the third or fourth. Why not why do it? He's not going to answer the question so I don't blame him for asking originally once you realize he's not going to answer it then. He tries being like in an argument with the guy mid scrums. It's like brawl move on duties. Obviously answering your question I would. I would be very hot after a loss like that when that gets called into question. If you're next I won't drop it like Chirpin you a brings a Q. I mean quick. I'm trying to eat at earls in Edmond Tillerson is there. Is there a couple of buffalo fans that are like fuck? Ya'll we need that fucking meal? We need to win A. I'm mocking argue with you. You're paying for tickets and you're pissed off and I get so that's how I saw the whole situation it was just a a cosmic storm and this another. Shit Sandwich for the Buffalo Sabres. Yeah more or less boys. We obviously give injury updates every week this week. It's a it's a tough man. There's a lot of big names The oil is already a big playoff race anyways while the degree of difficulty just got a little bit tougher for them as they lost all galaxy center comic David with a Quad Injury. He's going to be a two to three weeks. There's no ideal time to lose contact David but during the playoff rushes less than ideal show at bins. Stay AFLOAT GETS BACK We got an update on a couple of other oils as well. James Neal was placed on retroactive to January thirtieth as he continues to deal with a foot injury. He had a little bit of a setback per Kenny Allen and Chris. Russell began skating and he's feeling a little bit better getting closer to coming out a concussion protocol but he's still in the over. Colorado Nazem Kadri is expected to miss multiple weeks with a lower body. Injury Happened Sundays on Sundays. Winning Minnesota It's a tough loss for the APPS. Losing his second Senate. He's obviously a key. Contributor on both sides of the park by I don't know Colorado's should be able to withstand his loss Go ahead is just wanted to hop in on the fact that you know of course it's never good mcdavid going down. You know coyotes earn a playoff race with them as well like I want. Connor mcdavid in the lineup every night. This guy's as you mentioned all galaxy shift the focus here too. I'm sure that dry Seidel is probably in the heart conversation. I don't know I haven't looked at deeply into that yet. But if this guy's able to keep the team afloat and where their ad if not even exceed them a little bit during mcdavid absence he one hundred percent has to be. The front runner. Fee already isn't on in his first game. Without mcdavid a big five three win over the Blackhawks I e posted its fourth performance with four plus points to season for the Edmonton oilers. Tie with mcdavid McKinnon for the most in the two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand twenty season so this guy is in that realm of MVP conversation. If if he's able to pull a a crosby in a Malcolm here where one of them get hurt. The other one just says okay guys hop on us to me. Is the hard part care candidate? If you want a furor hockey fan of High-level SPEED AND SUPER SKILLED. Setups go check out the highlights from that game and look at. Patrick Kane's assists. It was joke but Edmonds. He came back and got a huge when they were down a couple of times. I think in that game mcdavid man. He's so fast. It's almost no granted. This injury was totally fluke. Run into a guys. The goal is playing the puck or whatever happened right behind beneath the goal on so it wasn't related to him. How fast is if people are able to just catch a clip of him But still it's scary to think that he's Kinda battling something again and granted. It's not doesn't sound serious at all but anytime after you've heard what what he went through this summer. You get a little scared right you. Just don't we can't have this guy at any point being out for for a long period of time the game the Games too good with him involved. Dreitzer I love what you say makes total sense to me dominant I think if you if you if you're the coach of the team or the GM you go up to him and you just say you've seen before what what crosby and Malcolm do one guy goes out. Like this is your. This is your chance to just carry us as insulting. That sounds would you consider dry seidel mcdavid sidekick is that rude language in language because considering he's Malcolm to his crosby correct okay? Nobody'll ever think he's well the no there there are. There are going to be people who think that dry tells better than mcdavid and Malcolm's better than crosby but it is not the majority. I'll say that is that fair. That's fair that's a fair statement while I was going to mention another sidekick Rantanen and I don't know if you guys saw his goal against the Ottawa senators it this guy man is he. He's he's in that conversation where it wouldn't surprise me. If one year he ended up in a heart race and if not winning. He's that special of a player. So if you haven't seen that goal against the Ottawa senators the other night. Go check it out. That was that was Sidney. Crosby like backhand illegal Steve stamkos is a little banged up. He said to have a nagging low body issue but KUPA hopes to have him back Thursday in Seth Jones had to get ankle surgery. He's GonNa be missing eight to ten weeks in Biz. It's interesting that you you pointed out that A trio of top PD men in the metro missing while the squads have to bat. Awad you get Seth Jones in Columbus Dougie Hamilton across brokers like for Carolina an atom. Pollock at a Freak Achilles tendon injuries. He's out for the rest of the season for the island is just it's crazy man. Three fucking three talking on this guys. I would like to see the schedule. Reduced a little bit just to maybe keep guys healthier. It'll never happen. How perfect how perfect would sixty eight games be better five? Even I would be seventy two top ten. Seventy two seventy six would be a very fair number. Oh sudas looking. You're just looking at six. It's world of difference if anything it'd be adding games scaring people say people say settled at no back to backs which I think is but because of scheduling and money. I can understand where they don't do it so that might take another bigger chunk escrow but I I just I think it would benefit the league to because the product would be better because these guys are some nights. These guys are fucking banged up. Now ask them to take their salaries a little bit back. They'd be like now they don't WanNa say goodbye to ten gates. You know what I mean five gates or whatever. They keep short in those seats up. They can do it in Boston. And it'd be sitting on people's lapse lapse new record for the fucking bean pod. They're like oh the biggest crowd ever for being pundits. Because you get fucked and seventeen people sitting. What happened was in their crazy game. Well yeah first off. The garden also announced that they're going to change the seats now. They're going to change seats in the balcony and make them bigger because everyone was bitching so much. But yeah it was fucking knots. Last minute goal by. Bu Sucks that northeastern took it. Sorry wet but worse one of the worst panel call terrible. You'll ever see in double overtime base off trip dude was was even trip Ryan J cattleman captain of northeastern great kid. Father Dan I I love you guys. But he was just falling over and this kid harper from B. U. Standing next to him. And then all of a sudden two minutes on Harper he didn't even do anything and they scored northeastern double overtime. Did you see mcevoy? Mcevoy's words about repairs. He's like this is typical hockey. East officials just taken the game engineer. Own Hands Pathetic. Yeah. That's a tough one set. Maybe at a reservation maybe at a restaurant or dude was already like eleven thirty was I know. Call maybe a closer twelve. Maybe had to get out the door. But that's soft not. I'm going Medieval Times dinner tournaments. You can if you Charles. Yeah you'RE GONNA be set for to maybe give you a minute. We'll cut in half but what's interesting business for NCWA purposes. The game gets graded as a tie because they'll idle because it's I mean even though they got a winner but they needed to determine a winner to see when the beam pop. Technically the game goes on the books for doubly reasons as a tie in I got. I got a of tweets. It looks like the bean pot might want one some viewers over up on and the great white north. A lot of Canadians are tied tagged in and said. Hey I never even knew about this team. This is some of the best hockey I've ever seen so pretty cool to get some college fans up north. I know June is the king up there but nice to see people paying attention to the bean pod and I had this year. The ambassador invitational is brought to you by Boyd. He's I love them. Visit Boise's B. O. K. E. Y. S. Boy Ease makes the most delicious dried beef called. Biltong think of a healthier version of jerky with thirty percent more protein causes from our boy. Tim Stapleton boy. He's built on his often. Compared to attend flavorful slice of high end prude with ingredients that you can pronounce like red wine. Vinegar toasted coriander Rose Marie and salt and pepper. Biltong a snack. You can count on fill you up and not bring it down made in the US. 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Because he's also maybe the toughest guy team I mean. He he can skate. I think he continues to get better like watching him play like decision making wise he. It's never been an issue for him like physicality or anything because he's so strong himself and he's so willing to fight anyone you know. He's mean he plays angry. Which makes them not much better. And then he's able to add some offense he's just he's really really good player makes sense he was a high draft pick and I understand completely getting them locked up soon as two years right. Yeah two years. Eleven point two. Yeah so a lot of money. I'm wondering if they talk long term I. I wish I did know that I probably could've figured that out. I don't so I'll still take it if you're an oilers fan. He such a competent defenceman to add that element of I believe plays penalty kill and even powerplays got a bomb. Shot to have a guy who's lugging that much time. Who's also able to police your Blue Line? Where if if there's guys who go to the net and they come near the goal. He's he's the guy who's going to give you a crosscheck and he'll sell cave your fucking face him and most guys in this league he can gave their fucking face in. And he's also the type of guy were if he ended up fighting Ryan Reeves and they ended up tying I wouldn't be surprised he I WANNA say like well. We talked about it earlier in the show like Kevin. Be Exa Dude. He wasn't fucking fucking around. GonNa Fight and fight you. You're not you're you're getting an easy wrote to the net and to have a guy who's able to play to his caliber and also have that that is extremely valuable and and I'm happy for him too because like he doesn't spend money like a complete ass also. That's going to that contract right there. He set if you blow that money Darnell. You're you're an asshole okay. You're set for life there pal. Yeah good move by. Oil is no doubt So far they've been four members of the two thousand six draft class to reach eight hundred points. Jonathan Tastes became the latest Joining Niklas Backstrom Phil Kessel and flew Jerusalem. Off for those guys. They know our drew a couple of weeks back shadow to that class. One of the best draft glasses of all time Biz. Did you have a story about Saginaw that you wanted to share all? I'm just going there for Valentine's damn going to drop the PUCK. I'm really excited and yeah I'm going back up where I played junior I was. I was the captain of an only child team. And that was that was cool for for like the one year when it lasted and then they strip the C. Basically traded him. I fought like three fucking teammates that your practice because that's how intense I was an intense guy back then dude. Y'All care I was. I was a bit like who do you mean intense anymore Bo. I met at the fact that like I was like I could harp on guys because I was actually somewhat better than them where I'd be like you'll wake the fuck up. Let's go but like I mean I was usually the guy who's fucking up the drill because I wanted to the NHL albums so anyway going back there it should be fun all go say hi to the crowd and bringing my girlfriend because it's Valentine's Day is like I haven't slept one minute. Poison on the fucking best player out. What's your excuse? No I wasn't drinking. I didn't drink back then. Okay Apar- I was a bit of a hurdle guys. I need some older brotherly advice. I don't know what to get my girl for Valentine's Day. Are you supposed to get him like an actual gift? You just bring her for dinner. Get her flowers communicate if you got a girl who's expecting like Materialistic Bullshit. I just want to spend time with my. We'll go for dinner. I'll get her flowers. But I'll be in Colorado making content but all you have to send her flowers and say you and especially Granola you. If he gets out nice then it's gotta be as Nice who nicer the next year like. Don't you know you don't want to set the bar too high too high here? I know I'm sure you guys can attest to this. I think the move is and I've done this before. I'm sure what has is you get all your Pussy Punch card. And it's got ten spots in it and then she can use it whenever so then if she she uses the cushy. Hey I've got the punch card and then you're actually last. Year was the first year I did it but it worked out good so I'll do it again. This may work for you Brunell. I go downstairs and I- ladder my entire naked body up with honey and then I stick chocolate ray talk. `Let flower pedals can eat off me and licked on. So it's awesome. And then the hosts cleaner Sonia. She comes in and so I don't have to clean up the honey in the kitchen. It's awesome and I borrow Sonia Shoe. Sony wants to get paid. She's fucked. She works for me she she. She is absolute workhorse. So you're you're not gonNA get for free another option. I'm sure are raised on this one. Is You automatically assume they're like oh? It's Valentine's I WANNA be a little more frisky so you call back pages you get a hooker over and you blind told her and surprise or does have her completely naked. The room they're waiting and you'll blind your girl you a Walker and surprise and have a threesome and they they. You'll have massages for the rest of the year. Guaranteed report back. How that one goes visit. They should do. They should give out tie-dyed shirts fall. United Saginaw they have to the team. The team warm up with tie-dyed FUCKING JERSEYS. On they could raffle is the guy his. It's like the mushroom stuff all the kind of ties in with like a show. The patch a mushroom second on the shoulder patch. Dr We should make spitting chocolates ones where they have the mushroom on the shoulder pad area. Yeah I like dancing Biz. So yeah let's see. What does that fish fish? All that Shit Raith data. They added the dancing bear stuff. Have you ever actually see them? Yeah what's the story behind? The the bears soissons the dancing Biz. Man If you trip and good enough on mushrooms and you you get zoned out enough. You'll literally you'll see those damn busy. They just they just do somersaults like endlessly somersaults you can. I've seen the dance before. Okay I mean not really there. You have a weight shoe. I've never done like you do shrooms. You see dancing. Bears a notable difference between what I dancing bears get. There's a difference between saying no I was going to say there's a difference between doing what I do every day and the few times where I've actually gone like. Oh year like this is Fox. I got like halfway there when we're on the golf course. I didn't get all the way there. I didn't see you dancing bears. Now Mind you the two times. I have been really like entre having a last. I've never seen the dancing bears. Yeah it could be the environment too. I mean like I used to a school. You'd being like four or five guys and like if there's smoke wafts through the years that's what you get visuals but yeah. They're obviously not there. But it's Weird. Did just like the bears if you if you take enough of them got up. Bears the bears. Hey did you hear av announcing stop and go the other night? He dropped a Kata hot bed rest then. He kind of chuckled himself. I don't I don't know if the press guys got it or not Hey speaking of busyness all the games at what's going on with. Ea lately we got the bumper slumps. Okay we couldn't use the word dump because it was a little offensive. It was a little rude. I don't WanNa be hammering on these players. You know were softies okay. So we're going to bump up our boy Bennington plus six which makes him a ninety five overall. Now Okay you come on the podcast. You look like you eating the mushroom in In Super Mario Brothers another bump do Brady ca chuck plus four which makes them a ninety two overall. Now he's been getting some some desktops he's really develop in that overall game. Chuck on the nuts and you guys know where a little bit more old school and Doo Doo. Doo Doo Doo speaking of Slumps DUMPS SLUMPS? Renske we're going to give them a little minus five which makes eighty six and some of you Columbus Fans. But he's dodging the podcast twice or three times. He's canceled on us to come on this. Podcast we got. We got memories like elephants over here. We're renske okay. And on top of that. I should be a two time. Calder Cup champion. But I'm only a one time because we ran into you in the Western Conference finals. The one year you came out of nowhere and you were Silky. Smooth my friends. So we're GONNA be down Pecker head and we said it in Eichel Interview Biz has the power to make someone a ninety nine overall. It may be the most powerful thing that has in his arsenal. So send us over names that you think we should make a nine nine because you can do it any way. We can move on with more hockey. Talk through got I I did miss one detail in the Toronto. La Trade last week. Oh the initial report I read. I didn't realize there was a condition on one of the draft picks The Twenty Twenty one third round pick that will become a second round pick if Toronto Resigns Clifford or the leafs make the playoffs in Kim Campbell. Went six regular season game so there was just a condition on that trade. I was unaware of Do a quick gambling corner Draw back a little bit set of Pickens Free Games. I'm just GonNa go one Thursday night Columbus is at Buffalo I'm assuming Elvis is going to be and then that And we'RE GONNA GO Columbus regulation only. I don't know what they're going to be in the money line but I liked this regulation. Only if I just like a team to win. You don't delay as much juice So we're assuming Columbus is going to be the favourite so it'll be my half probably like minus one ten sometimes even money but that's the loan play Columbus at Buffalo Thursday night regulation only minus the half. So that's that Biz. I played golf Monday with Joel. Vo and and day Adore at audio sick. Men's Club in In Florida and it was so funny I think I think at some point we might get both those guys no no promises but you know jogos lines man. I just I would have to get Joe. Vol- live and what I do is I would probably play sacrificial lamb where I would chirp him a little bit and then he would start. Firing back the cocky lines to me and I would be the sacrificial lamb and we need Jovian like like just going after me. Because that's what he's at his best as when he's just turpin the poor guys just fish. Aloun just dangle a carrot now. I'll take the bullet for the boys. But what about Theodore like? What a guy I'd never known as a great Guy Larry Come on and let it fly. I don't know I didn't even bring it up to me saying that we might get him. She's a complete guest. But maybe maybe at some point who knows I mean he just bust out the JERGENS and listen to them. Tell about how he won. Mvp when he was with the Montreal Canadians as their goalie. Like that's fucking and any most handsome guy in the national hockey league like celebrities. WanNa get Adam and shit so That would be cool. Get we didn't really go into depth about Shea Weber. Interesting story out of Kind of the hockey world and hockey media here which Nick Caprio I think it was today. He tweeted out that he kind of had sources that said that Shea Weber season Sources say Shea Weber. Injury has season likely over and its future in question told. The injury is related to the foot that was surgical repair in two thousand eighteen. While waiting for swelling to alleviate and further and further confirmation surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week. Well after that happened it came on a couple of different reports that Shea Weber was pissed off to hear that is that is future is in jeopardy and that he you know he thinks he's GonNa be okay. The Canadians come out tonight. With a tweet saying Shea Weber expected to miss four to six weeks with an ankle sprain in which tweeted saying that's hopeful for the Canadians Shave fully recovers four to six weeks. I'm sorry that's what is hopeful for them. But I stand by my story about that. The Montreal Canadians concern going into this week with ten and related and not optimistic. I return long-term questions. I believe. Remain well we had a hop in there. I believe he's flying to Wisconsin with to meet a specialist is the latest. I heard it's the same specialists that did suitors foot surgery or ankle surgery a few a few years ago now. This may be false information that I read the doctor who performed the surgery. And Webber's foot years ago is Dr Robert Anderson Green Bay so Shea. Weber's already had this done. I believe on the other foot so this is something that he's familiar with were I mean. Didn't you have to go through something? Where you had the Bo- both problems on on on each feet. Yeah I actually I. I'm pretty sure I saw that. He saw Dr Anderson in Charlotte. Which is where my all my surgeries done Yeah I mean I had an osteotomy of my left foot and I had to get it on my right foot which they cut a piece out of your bone. Lower your arch. I don't think that's any of the stuff that he's dealing with. But it certainly something serious enough worries already had surgery and now there's questions around like Kipruto Saint making add up all. Listen I read. That's I don't remember where I got on twitter. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that's the last I read. I know I could have been so I might be completely wrong I was. I was just saying what I read. No I just think that there's something going on there. I don't I don't believe that. I think that if he is back at four to six weeks things went as good as possible as possible and there was a probably a chance still right now. I don't know but definitely at some point that it was really serious. So we'll see what happens but without him. I mean they stand almost no chance to make playoffs. They're obviously also losing right now to David Posh Rock. It's three one him with your team man in the overall as if it is maybe remotely more serious to shut them down. 'cause like if it gets worse than now it could be career-threatening at least from what. I'm reading but I might be getting mind from my fake don chair each hour or something that I followed by axe Abon Rick from red beard. It's fucking sweeten all this nonsense out fucking idiot. You're on Straw. Currently eight points of the second wildcard. So yeah this could get away from the quick and you know taking web taken shutting them down will make them even worse than I in theory get them a better. Cuna fucking draft pick. I got shit for. We can call her two D. D. R. Two D. Two dude. I don't watch star. I've never watched star trek in my life. So how am I supposed to? I knew are two D- something and then I'm catching shrapnel from all over the place that I got his name wrong star trek either. I'm all that stuff's terrible alder on shrapnel. Yeah Starting All Star Trek over here case. So did we mention Chara? He finally got his fifteen hundred games. And all these people are being pants online because we already mentioned it in November. But here it's like we have to like notify return. They get a gift like this week. John Charro to rock and cheer for fifteen hundred thought. Everyone wants to know that same one whit at in when he played it's ever got we told them we told you what he played his fifteen hundred game. We don't have to give every fucking update for the silver stick. The fucking this and that and the other I got. I got a few positive things here though. Accu scored and collected his twentieth point of the season. Seven goals thirteen assists. Only three eighteen year olds have eclipsed the twenty mark and twenty point mark. Excuse me in a season in the New Jersey devils franchise. History Kirk Muller go here. Sheer and Paul Gonyea. So I just WanNa get some positive news. I know it hasn't been a mind blowing. I season for Jack Us. He is still extremely young. And I've kind of Akin Dog and on the Jersey devils a little bit so my apologies. This kid still vary on. I think he's GonNa fucking pop off I I got word from Mike Kelly works for. Nhl Network hockey analysts numbers guy. Kevin Hayes has five breakway goals this year more than twenty teams in the NHL. He is just dominating the breakaway goal seen in two thousand nine thousand nine hundred thousand twenty inch all season so shout out to our boy as all right boy saw that wraps up the doozy of an episode. Hopefully and everyone everyone enjoys it and has a great weekend out there. Take care everybody as always. We'd like to give a big hardy. Thank you to all our awesome sponsors and hopefully you listen to take full advantage of these awesome companies first off our friends over Dunkin. Full hooking us up at the tryouts Wednesday and they're going to be taken care of us out the tournaments as well Big thanks to Thursday boots are coming back and being a sponsor once again they got some great products. Do check them out Boy He's beef Jerky from Buddy Tim Stapleton. Thanks to them. I've tried the stuff. It's fantastic some of my favorite jerky of course. Bud Light Salsa. 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SG 99: Trading Trash For Treasure or Tanking | SPORTS GOOFS

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SG 99: Trading Trash For Treasure or Tanking | SPORTS GOOFS

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Check out the link in our podcast description for all of the details. Thank you tiki. And now let's get to the goofs. Let's lower that. What's up everybody. Welcome to sports. Goofs number ninety nine i am francisco joined by my two buddies as always andrew and charles and yeah how you guys doing. What's what's going on not much. I will tell you boys episode ninety nine billboard year end hot one hundred singles ninety nine had a couple of bankers number one believed by share Tastic song Baby wartime fantastic song. Genie bottle geraghty. take out what living vida loca office numbers at killing it that that year. I mean i bring this up. I wanted that way by backstreet. Boys fifteen guys. It is twenty twenty one. I was singing that in the car the other day and sometimes thankfully people might be thinking that i'm on my phone or something bluetooth now. I was hitting them pipes. I was breaking out my best kevin smashmouth all-star big-time staff and then a song. That is i. Don't understand how it's number nineteen. Because it was the jam from june to september but smooth by santana featuring rob thomas kidding me. That was nineteen like. That's another saga coming into it. And then just for number one hundred just to get out there was alabama and seeing gama. Spent little time you. I remember that song. It was not good by things because they were doing music of my heart and then of course for my little rap hard knock life on eighty nine literally they know it just keeps us going genuine so anxious gave up just out. Memory lane yeah. The eighties was great for me for certain songs. Listen to what opportunities by it's the song of the geigo commercial is like i got. Yeah yeah yet looks. Let's go make somebody. I just killed it pet shop boys that they also made another great song looking at this mamba number five number forty wrong and it's not number five boys it's while west by will smith all my last is chris. Yeah i remember the theaters that one. What what's it going to be by bus ryan and Jesse jackson i was jammed up on that right now. I go to that so that that's what my day is my realization that nineteen ninety nine banger. Ritzier lord at is that is some nostalgia and is sitting down there. Talk uconn sixty four on the and sixty four. That came out that year. Yeah your boys. Yeah mario party yeah. The first one came out that year super smash brothers. I came out here to your against killing as well. Oh boy oh well let let i. We got sponsorship this. I'm folks and we go. Oh guys your data is worth thousands of dollars per year. Why aren't you getting your fair. Share i why why. Why the heck are we not getting our fair. Share charles andrew. Let's let's let's take back control of our data and we'll get paid while we're doing it like that Take he's got her back. 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Baseball's right around the corner. It's literally this week in college. Sports we have called yeah. March madness doesn't matter to me anymore. You know what matters to me though. Calico shore oh indeed frozen. Call chalky if you're is a doozy of a game. Dues e. news historically doozy historically tampa bay lightning. Ask length doozy right. But they had to have seventh period. Stretch out again apply. You bet your ass be you. I'm gonna be asking for your opinion on the The first few games so far. 'cause we had quite a few upsets and i spent more time watching the d. one tournament Never do that again. Okay okay got it got it okay i. I'm just messing with the. I think the whole thing stupid. He's the reason that such The reason i put such emphasis on the pronunciation guys is because he spells it c. a. w. l. e. d. g. e. call edge. College hockey is because i just like i was in college hockey. Talk a lot with four of or be. I mean it sounds like i'm just thinking of them playing the seventh overtime intermission stretch. Whatever just a law out there are on. They're just start playing that it's like what the heck is going on. Okay all right yeah. A lot of things went down. Whoa i do. I do wanna start with something fun. All right something that was brought to our attention most most recently guys were going to have a real. Mvp to start us out. It's kevin durant. oh for that rita. Okay yes kevin wayne durant. And he's got some new beef with michael rapaport k. This is this is. This is fun so kevin durant noted twitter user as wrong now user. Indeed and well he he he was. Ok charles can you. Can you bring us in here and offering us in here and for what we're gonna say right now disclaimer. I don't necessarily condone the derogatory statements. Said yes by. Kevin durant in in his messages. But i'm always about sports. Athletes feel like that's kind of the other being other athletes not everybody's quarter rate by moi's about athletes kind of clap it back. At other athletes were now media analysts or people who don't play the game and kind of do quarterback. Couching is the phrase all but for any sport so i guess what had happened at. We do actually have a good not spot or other. Mvp suggestion ought to counteract the kevin durant keep out of the back burner but I guess something happened. Michael report is a known. Comedian he. I think had a defamation suit against bar still sports or all has dropped out. He's very opinionated about his sports. And then i guess something happened where he tried to call out to rant on either instagram or on the social media platforms about him. Not answering questions. And the thing that has been kevin wrench reputation in these kind of soft not soft on the game but soft in media wanting to be light. And there's been some incidences of your oklahoma city. He had his secret. Her counts where he was criticizing the organization. Everything like that. So he's a little But so what happened. Was rappaport shouts about and then kevin durant almost into martyred harrison but for balide is the way. I'll say it. Because i he does like a middle finger to charles. Barkley is all about inside the nba for those. Who are not familiar. Charles barkley even now. He is still on the best. Trash talkers out there. Whether or not him in shaker accurate. Because i don't they just like the style of play. And i think what happens is when you're a prior generation. You're always going to have it on. Happiness of the south southwest. Look d'arret just go straight to observe as listen. It was a yes or no question. Why am i gonna answer like this. When i can expand more. Then they flung some words to each other so michael. Rubber poorer was to start the fire. Kevin durant was smart if the kind of step on the fire before became a brushfire beach became a wildfire. And bring before us out but it was kind of nuclear and there was a seaworld thrown out there. There is a f- over there. There was a a a comparison of michael reports. Game with seminal fluid. Personally loved it because i always appreciate a good Skywalker smack talker. And even though kevin durant holly had to be really dishes about what he would type was still good enough to get my entertains because the purpose of social media. I love the foods i love it. I love it man. It reminds me of the days of imdb looking at the harry potter boards and see people like go at it over imaginary characters books. I've read yet and someone gets offended. About how the movies not gonna adapt. And i'm like get me that popcorn that drama people washer don't know about you guys bad like the from going out with friends whatever I see other people. I wanna know what if i see a man or woman angry at their significant other. Hone in so this is like my form of entertainment and i don't know radford enough i just always feel like it's sometimes when you had comedian's going hardcore whereas the only one. I think that i'm a big fan of his bill. Burr because i remember he was on coward show and doppler strides. Act taker mayfield. And then dovers like you. Don't do anything. I like people. Call people out. But these two were slinging at it. Like i said we don't advocate or 'can-do of the words that were said basically drag him like raw. I condone kevin durant attitude. It what i can. I can donate if it escalate to say me on the streets. I'll fight out on with. I just love. Kevin durant transformation. And we've we've witnessed a across the the lifespan of this show. Now three years strong and it is been. It's i mean we this this segment the real. Mvp is because of because of him. And when people may kevin durant transmission people made fun of them for for crying and shouting out his mother who raised him all things they went through and he was saying. You're the real. Mvp and people made fun of him allowed staffing and finally kevin durant somewhere at some point. I guess when his last season with okay. Cnn oklahoma. He was just like effort. I don't care what nobody else thinks about me anymore. I'm going to go to the best damn team. There is and when myself a ring. I'm going to get as much money as possible and go wherever the hell i want and leave. Stay and get more money someplace else in brooklyn. I'm going to say here. And i'm going to have a super team. Even though i was it he was. I think he was. One of the people like when the heat were getting their big three together as a man. I wish or something like i said something. That was kinda hypocritical in the sense that he did same thing but he doesn't care anymore and that's the beauty of it. That's the berea it. It is liberating when he he's finally out of. He's at a stage where he's made so much money he's already got all of the accolades he's gonna make the hall of fame the way things are going it. Who cares what anybody else thinks of him. He can have forty thousand twitter burner accounts if he wants to. It doesn't matter to him he he's he's just going to do what he does. And if people are calling him out he's he's got a bite back. Which is what a lot of athletes don't do but he's big enough where it it will really affect the much. It'd be like that. Kevin durant or something like that kevin durant and then we'll move on and then something else will happen. We'll see what the nets do this. They have to win a championship. Now there's more pressure on them because of not been there failures they are one of the bigger filters in the nba. Possibly so yeah but regardless kevin durant whenever you retire come onto our show we will we will have. Yes yes we we. Oh yeah we have another one another thing james. The world domination right. Oh that just recently came out on steam so there you go all right okay. Sorry sorry. I do have a second beauty counter. It talked about last week. I don't think we talked about the show. I think this deserves some praise. Because i'm certain artists like england patriots. It has to be because of tom. Brady tom brady. Might have gone tampa to get a ring. Any wanted it. But the tom brady left. Go ballot check. We get to see his dog. He shaving his head for a for cancer survivors. That donation and the players. Just become better people's on V to for retirement. Justin hereon last week. Who had saved a seventy one year old woman from sexual assault at the park. I believe. I don't think we talked about last week did we. I think it was. We forgot about it but this is just someone who did the right thing when there's people who don't do the right thing and they honored him over and there was only police department for his role in helping at the police department. They gave him an outside service. Awards Some humanity out there especially with sports because we always see about people donating people helping out providing food charity food drive. But whether you're a regular person or if you're a base are there some people who might not interfere in these kinds of situations that happen Yes you can call cops. That's the first step nine one one second. Be immediate to help somebody from being sexually assaulted to prevent the lead shot at the guy was kind of imposing the two guys that he just went to law enforcement came in. It was a good story. Some of those things. Kinda tug on the heartstrings. So we go from. Kevin durant being petty in the heavy piece out. But we're going to go with just an errand for. Va the real vp. For is just a good person. Yes standard for me. He plays offensive linemen. Irb get cut bill belichick. If you have to cut you can cut julian edelman. I don't get you have to keep this guy. Just for one season he can. He can go and revises his contract. Or you can restructure camp but whatever but this is just such a. Mia is such a thing as a sign of humanity. So israel okay. Right boys let's Some other tidbits and other news. The mom heats american airlines arena will be renamed after a company named t. x. who dabbles in crypto currency exchange. Oh that was yeah. that was. That was some news. That's been going down down here locally. So i was crypto currency. Or i've got about two hundred. Eighty does coins and i'm waiting for that to to become the best thing i've ever done in about twenty years so i'll sit down and wait. Wait for my does go up and praise right and my beloved miami. Marlins have also got a name change for their ballpark mall. It's park which it has been known as since two thousand twelve is no longer going to be marlins park it is. It is now going to be called lone depot park of apparently it's very lucrative deal lord and savior derek. Jeter has brought down more has gotten some donations and stuff too so we are. You know it's adding to the table. Which is going to be great for us. See be able to keep some guys something. That's that the previous regime as couldn't do so yeah. Yeah but the the marlins they're they're going to get some money to loan depot now home depot folks loan depot. So that's that's there you go so some people aren't happy about the name but at least they're getting money and let's be real. Aside from sports analysts and commentators had no one goes and says hey often go. Let's go alone depot like let's go. Let's go see the heat play. Let's go see the marlins blood vessels go see the yankees flight mean everybody's short american internet triple aaa so it's it's not dry. It's just a bad name. But i don't think that it's the worst worst because i know even in miami. Okay let's go to the fda Rena let's go man. It's not gonna come out. It's literally not gonna come the one time that will probably the even acknowledge it fully. That's not show related with essentially be this. I'm an you know you'll be surprised at put a big ass. Teac symbol outside. So we're not seeing. The american airlines was literally be the only time one time in my life that is contingent on something else. So i think we're okay. Yeah regards where we say this. I'm i'm still disappointed that the that the offer to for it to be the center was not taken. Your boy got enough money out of this year's it can't get any more okay so that that. That's that's what's gone down here in south florida names. Which is the panthers a permanent. Change the name of the By next season it's gonna be true if it's not because it's just the company merged now it's going to be true so as probably the last season as bbn t center so things are changing and yeah so all right. That's that news. Let's go onto gosh. Nhl i just wanna talk about this. Aaron plaid your child that was you being over. Overdramatic background. Okay eric act plateau. It's bad oh he. It's not as awful as it could have been an. I will say this. Her neck glad against the dallas stars got injured broke his leg. His legs got tangled with forgot. Who from from the dallas stars but and then he kinda they were untangling. He landed on his leg in a funny way. And as someone who has broken my leg during a sporting events it brought back a lot of not good memories. And i feel for the man but from what we have been told thus far. It's only three months that he will need to recover. It could have been worse. Everyone was like they give out those the mci or the acl any of that stuff. And he's he's gone until next next year next calendar year. Probably if that that had happened. And who knows if he would have been the same player after that happened but luckily just broken bones and his men that three months and people have calculated out if the panthers were to miraculously gonna stanley cup. Run the latest stanley cup would be somewhere in july so he would be recovered by june in could be a possibility that he could rejoin the team. But stamkos aren't i mean samples was a i would aken stamkos multi more like a kirk gibson. Sort situation he came in for for one game how does blaze of glory and then went out. Sure that that's basically what stamkos did and that will now. He's fully back. But but yeah yeah. That could be a possibility. But then again eggplants plaza defensemen. So you even though. He's one of the best offensive defenseman. Andy very good defensive defense now. He was having his finest season. I was on chase. Thomas's podcast last thursday and i sang praises for act and suddenly this happens and maybe the maybe my hubris the hockey gods of punished me in some sort of way. Yeah and i don't think my lord and savior and our lord and savior. Derek jeeter works in those realms because it is not pertaining to baseball. So gosh darn man. The panthers are going good. barkov gets injured. My swedish man crush now holmquest got injured and now blad the big big injury so i. I don't know what to think guys. I'm not sure and we'll shane. Gusta spear was put on waivers by the flyers. He's a local guy from south. Florida could use a change of scenery. He's a defenseman. Maybe the panthers have cap space. Possibly who else who knows. That's just a crying shame. Oh let's laugh at team. You guys wanna laugh at a terrible team Is is the buffalo sabres andrew. What happens to the buffalo sabres. Well i guess a better question would be what hasn't happened the buffalo sabres. I might your charles time for a little bit of a group here. Demand the buffalo sabres are an nhl hockey team residing in buffalo new york. Guess they are fortunate franchise he Let's say that they you know how much bad luck the buffalo Buffalo bills have had over the years. Yes tack that on with the buffalo sabres. The closest they've come to a stanley cup. Win was nineteen nine nine. Oh gosh program. Ice he'll get rooting for them in that one A covert will dateable. Yeah one are we we. We told charles about this before with the skate and skate in the escaped in the bundy. But let's talk about the sabers now. The sabers of because that was that was a very very different sabres team richer. And so i wanted to set up a little bit of how well if if anybody wants a quick well not not a quick quick but a very good summation of the buffalo sabres. Check out your name. Trees last video about the law. The the contrast between the sabres and the bills. And they're both owned by the same guy terry peculiar so it's kinda like the james dolan situation with the rangers in x although the knicks surprisingly alright for the buffalo sabres this year are currently six twenty three and five which means six which means six wins twenty three losses and five overtime losses appointed so having played thirty thirty four games out of fifty six out of fifty six because this is an abbreviated season. They've scored a whopping seventeen points. Seventeen points are now. They've got twenty three points or no no. They have twenty three loss. Sorry actually gave him they. Have they have fewer points. Yeah then they want losses charles. So what other things going the system two points for a win either. In regulation in overtime or shootout regulation you get nothing and if you lose in overtime or shootout you get one point so so this the buffalo sabres are mired right now in the longest playoff drought in the nhl. As of right now and it's it's a ten now. I think it's at ten. We're getting i think we're gonna get historical four panthers and the surprisingly the edmonton oilers set the record at ten straight seasons and the sabers. I think they're on their tenth right now off to look that up so yeah. Let's yeah you can look that up like explain this. But but i actually i want to take this to you. You want jack eichel. I want my goodness gracious. So as bad as the season has been charles the nega wayne. The season has been charles. The last month's basically a month and five days has been dismal putting it nicely. They have not won a single game since february twenty fifth. Do you remember the beginning. Eighteen great williams andrew. Do you remember the beginning of the season. And i remember the when. I when johnny was on and your in your place and we talked about the ottawa senators and there was a point where we thought the ottawa senators. I thought like man. They dare awful. They looked like they were gonna be. I mean they probably wouldn't even reach double digits victories and they were just the worst of the worst teams and now the buffalo sabres. I mean gosh man. You talk about knocking at your door. They're saying you're you talk about constructing a tank kind of like what you can do. An evil genius to world domination on steam. The buffalo sabres. They're gonna be dominating the any draft lottery at this point because what a what a fall i mean. This tank is an inadvertent tank to this is not a tank that they were trying to construct at all. This is a tank that they were trying to do something this season they're trying unintentional tank and they were trying to get jack eichel to to be convinced like hey we got some guys we can support you. Hey here's taylor hall for her season. And let me let me divert really quick here. So jag eichel aka the jackal. Because you know jack eichel very clever is one of the best young players in the league right now is all of twenty four years old. He was reports from north chelmsford massachusetts. Hence why be you said. I will come home Losing what were anywhere else boston. Wait for his for be used. Beloved by university terrors terriers. He's really good. The problem is the team teeth. Wait for i've been really really bad. I gosh man. As even playing on as he was he was drafted. Second overall and the only reason why guys karmic karmic jesus. Connor mcdavid was taken ahead of them. Of course mcdavid is amazing. Cornerback cheese even. The oilers can't completely tank with him on the team. Hang on a second. A rough lapsed at the usc gonzaga game. What oh boy though yeah. Usc gonzaga's happening right now and in the fourteen minute mark and again the the scores frozen here at seventeen four. So that's that's what's going down. That's the way is okay. yeah. I'm checking it right now. Okay well let me wrap up this buffalo sabres. Thanks so the you had the buffalo sabres. Most recent travesty was they were up. They were playing against the philadelphia flyers. The fraudulent nhl team from philadelphia phillies is fraudulent. We all know this well. The buffalo sabres were winning three to nothing after two periods and one would think Oh man well let me remind you. Let me remind you. This is a philadelphia flyers team. That lost nine nothing. The new york rangers whose entire coaching staff was out with covert and they lost. I think eight two three a couple of games later so get. This is not a good philadelphia flyers team therefore points above five hundred but the yeah they. They've they've had some really up and down spells and this look like one of those down ones. Oh man even the sabres are going to get one against philli but all this tank this inadvertent tank. This tank that has just bursted into buffalo as torn everything sunder decision. Just what. I mean sheesh man the ai of this tank there's probably a t one thousand controlling this tank. The sabres are not in control anymore. The tank has taken over appreciate that reference. Yes the tank has taken over. Oh did it take over. The third period gave the gave up three goals in the third and along. The sabers took it into overtime. Well no the sabers didn't take into overtime. No the tank allowed the flyers to take it into overtime where they then won the game. So it's the it's the murphy's law of hockey essentially powers applicable. Oh man i got. It just reminds me of the sixteen cleveland browns. Well there was some case actually close to winning and then the harpreet suit. I mean no no. This sabres seem is bad. This this sabres team is no bueno. Charles not good at all. The only have six wins. I don't follow hockey. But i always associate to the worst basketball team. Never be there charlotte bobcat so one of the one man. I i do have to shout one guy not shout out. Maybe i'm not even sure are just Just knowledge acknowledged and show. What a awful decision that he made. So taylor hall code gone to any contender in the nhl heads on over to buffalo and a one year contract probably probably had the the idea of all. Let me let me go to one year in buffalo. Maybe even had the idea a. I'm i'm good enough. I could probably post up really good numbers of buffalo even if they suck. I'll probably be traded to a contender. Maybe get a chance at a ring. Or if i had really good numbers and i can get you know the big contract. The the the pay for generations of children's college contract you know now has not happened for taylor hall in third and to add literal insult ladder literal injury to insult. He got hit in the face with a slapshot from his own teammates. days ago. What you had funny funny guy that the lewis for to what you can prove point there should be more full face visor once again the same guy that instituted the visor rule so anyways thirty four games played. He's only scored two goals two goals. The sabers paid this fan for two goals sixteen assists but you know hockey. It says you can have the hockey assists the the secondary one. And you know she's man you can sneeze on the pocket be given the hawk the secondary assist so named man for assists exactly wall. Oh man this taylor. Hall was goal differential. What is the goal differential. All was me my. It was the crisis superstar before connor. Day that everyone thought. Oh this is going to be the next generation. There's like a generational talent every three seasons. I don't know what the hell everyone keeps off an air. What's it's the hype thing that there's there's no there's never that many there's only usually lafleur messiah shnell talent. Well now you got out. So i can you got sidney crosby and this one is connor mcdavid right now. Okay and maybe mackinnon. I could say so so so there you go. Those are those are the guys are but regards minus fifty one for the buffalo sabres right now in their culture for man. This team is what goal differential. Install now the basketball. They're using differential term as well so. A lot of hockey stuff is going into basketball. All is analytic stuff is of seeping into ironically i would say hockey has the best authors hockey. You it's like. I think i should have the assist to assist that. Y- war is now getting worked into hockey and basketball which is weird but regardless anyways buffalo sabres. Let's okay we can. We can pile on these guys. That's enough they are awful and they should know and man that tank that that tank has just taken over they they can no longer control it. No they can. They can only feed the tank at this point. And really this point a man. Who's the next closest team. Nobody nobody is near them with regard. Sit now they're going to get they're going to have the the most ping pong or lottery balls in the in the new draft lottery the next one. So so what's the To remind a peasant eleven points ahead of everybody else or behind. What are we want to see it. So what was your question. Charles was the new lottery Style oh we talked about it. We talked about last week. Where they're they're just going to try and prevent the edmonds oilers style of things where the you can get multiple number. One draft picks within a five year period and now they've limited to to to just two and the dra- winning the draft only moves you up ten spots so eleven of the sixteen teams. Don't make the playoffs. We'll have a chance at it at the number one. So there you go. But that's that's all right. That's the buffalo sabres. Everybody just just man. Oh i. I don't know how those fans feel maybe andrew can can kidnapping a sabers fan or a writer. Somebody that knows and we can figure out what their thanks smuggler. Always gets his man. You right for the buffalo sabres. Come on over in season six. We'll see that tank is at that point and he can smuggle in somebody from from the poor just destroyed ruins of the city of buffalo. Except for ralph wilson stadium. Where the heck they calling it right now so there you go all right. Oh man where are we at. We are at the forty minute mark. Can i do a small segment guys. Go hey can. I present something. That has to bridge over bridges over. Because we've got some trade stuff to talk about as well so i wanted to do this one. Let's get a little cultured. Slight culturing uncultured swine. And i was looking around trying to find team like oh. This one looks interesting. It'll be quick. The guppy danis the silla the medical right that five times fast. The copy tata's to seal the mahyco. They were established. Two thousand seventeen guiso. No that's the mexico city captains in english. They plan the league out. They balanced sesto professor and really. The only notable thing that i have here is that they will be joining the nba g. league next season. So i like that. The nba's expand the g. Legalese is expanding into mexico and pretty far south mexico. Mexico city's really south compared to every other team. I can't imagine the the travel expenses to go from from one to the other but yeah measure going from sioux falls. South dakota all the way down in mexico city as long as they're gonna do that with worst particles still affect. Well yeah that that was the thing they were supposed to join the league this season but because of the virus that was postponed. They're looking for next season. I would assume that is also up in the air depending on how vaccinations for the virus goes in both countries really. Oh my god francisco. Sorry to interrupt. Florida is beating detroit. Three nothing right now. If the end of the i don't don't do. Are you trying to say that like the buffalo sabres or just like stating okay. All right. that's it for any team. That is a huge margin have after one period. Yeah i know but it always brings about the whole like. Oh they're going to have a lull and then you can think kelly's come back. I mean the red wings aren't the worst as we all know right now and the they they can. They can surprise surprised answers. They've they've beaten the panthers this season. I'm not. I'm not gonna gonna let the red wings. I don't know. I don't want them sneak up on us so it's encouraging at least there they've got the the rallying cry now for this season. If things if they start going on corona's glad for sure do it for ac all right. Yeah so the. And they play the capitalist play at him nacion. Juan de la barrera mexico city open in nineteen sixty eight about five thousand two hundred and forty two and that's where they play the volleyball tournament at the nineteen sixty eight olympic games. Eighty go little little learning letter. Culturing to pick your brain wrote. That would open up the doors for international players to go the g. league might not be on the radar four. Not like the way. Chris apps will get all that stuff but maybe an invite for those other people that want an opportunity 'cause g. league with the two way contracts and everything given opportunity for guys to get those. Ross be poached pony of that before the nba is trying to yet. Get control really. I think they're they're really pushing for all of this. International a appeal so going into mexico is is one of them. And i think that. T- the cabbie tata's were just a group of guys that wanted to get basketball back on the map in mexico and that's why they created that team and i guess the nba saw that and it's like. Let's let's help you guys out there. And of course the nba wants to push their foothold into mexico. So that's i think it's a smart thing for them. And i could see international players coming to the g. league for reason. Maybe the nba could maybe. This is like their first experiment into interr- internationalization of of waller minor league system. And me we. Hey start experimenting now okay. Let's see how the logistics go traveling to mexico and all that stuff and then who knows the nba's already canada and the united states. The nfl always talked about london. I mean gosh. Could you see the nba golden london. I could see them doing that. I could see them finding a way to work around the schedule for that. I mean london. I just try to think of a lot of international players come from spain or when the eastern european but yeah i mean but the thing is london like like. Yeah london's again. He would say his is central to europe. Well not really. But it could be paris as well. But i. I think london would probably just for the the language factor alone would be the nba could could target expanding that way. In my opinion. At least yeah and i think it works differently than how had it recently because of the virus but alive players go to china until their seasons were reopened. They come around once. The buyouts were completed in the nba. That's how Auto players kinda got Put onto playoff rosters teams and the guy a second chance. Because it's really what happens. You go overseas your second chance. Opportunities play well there. Lester stefan marberry. I'm gonna be superman over here like sixty points a game. It'd be ridiculous Jimmer for that only two cassette opposite right now. Stefan could have handled the nba. You just can handle your orcas near about war with the knicks but jenner transition. Well but he's i think the last time i checked about dimmer for that not a player to remember get just yet but he was dropping like forty points a game over there at one of the. Yeah the chinese league be used suggest here having entire european the division so wait teams could do a funeral swing. Yeah he can remember the star line. Oh yeah i remember that going on the yeah i am put a team maybe like four team. Division with paris madrid. London and berlin. Possibly i could see that. I got too big of basketball though. He i mean gosh man. I can't coast all as i'm just thinking about. Yeah i need the owner who would put the initiative out there like in the nfl. There's shad khan really big on the oversee gay. That's going to be the one the jaguars but man i could see the nba. China like have like a twenty four hour cycle of just games. Okay let's the european gains start out in the morning and then the west coast games at night. I mean honestly they're better bet is just Nba europa in the offseason. For american. i mean. I can see them doing that to possibly watch it. Possibly buying may be buying up some of those euro leagues us make our own. Nba europe like the nfl europe experiment. But this time it will work because basketball's or popular you can sell their remember watching korean baseball when the shutdown i started. But i didn't watch much of that. But i i would watch european ball. It's one of the things that made the olympics not limpet rules because there was not a component because you can always appreciate people sile think ricky rubio kinda showed that yeah. Yeah now to think about the baseball expert. I think because major league baseball sucks marketing right. Now they're slow they. I mean they really should be working hard to those asian markets japan. South korea taiwan. There there are places i mean. She even australia watches baseball. So there are places that they can just try and influence but they just suck at it they just do all right Andrew another hockey topic. Let's do hockey this first-half mainly tim peel. Yup yeah this. This'll get over to the halfway point. So we're in peel. He was retiring after the season to he goes out with all right. Let's let's charles. let's introduce you have to. You have to educate me a little about this guy. I want to go much has happened. Okay basketball world and my ascensions about this and do the me and then you can go into what he did so nhl will. You've been to a hockey game. Charles several yeah. You know that the just like in in the nfl were miked up as well and everytime him. Yes yes there was trying to attend classically call and yes at seattle native in trouble are okay so exactly so the man over the years man. I i love. I love watching the hockey guys video on youtube about this. And he's a vancouver canucks fan also bruins fan but he lives out in british columbia so he's accused fan and he's just like i remember back in the eighties with Roger neilson putting up the white flag thinking the rest were against them. And how that shaped me as a fan early on when i was a kid and now that this has gone on and every team in the nhl every fan base thinks that their calls that are going against them without without merits without merit and it just seemed like man. They're they're just having makeup calls and it's something that has been known. Unofficially by a lot of people. If you've been watching hockey for for a long time you notice things. Makeup calls or thing that happened in all sports really. I can't i mean we can't say that this doesn't happen in the nba or doesn't happen in major league baseball or does doesn't happening nfl. Exactly bless you. I clear my throat I thought that was a sneeze. Sound like a sneeze but while ten peel andrew. What happened to this man. Mr appeal was caught on a hot mic saying Well let me give a little bit of background of the game There was a fairly weak call. Against i think it was against the red wings earlier in the game against the national predators ness against the nashville predators early in the game where the dude basically flopped But it was called the penalty so in the second period. Another week call was called against detroit and Sorry one second okay. I'm back and he's caught on a hot. Mike basically saying. I wanted to get the team on a penalty Sensually admitting that he was making the making a mega call for we call earlier the nhl immediately quote unquote fired him. Which in reality. They said he's no longer going to be working games for us. Was he's suspended indefinitely which he was retiring anyway. So he is done. You just gets an early retirement And remember we also have to know the temp pule himself. As a ref in the hockey world a lot of people have a lot of problems with them over all of these years that he's been working he's not as beloved as west macauley and so this fraud people is kind of vindicate some of their feelings towards him. I'm using a lot of our game. We went to write is a lot of words guys hervey guys pointing them out. Oh yeah me. And andrew were like fawning over by only craft. But yes yes. That's that was less macauley yet. Peel doesn't have the same reputation anyways. Sorry andrew continue So the nhl says we take this seriously we we we are fans insist on fairly call games. We insist on fairly called games law blog. Total total bullshit. And again i say. He's a scapegoat. 'cause everyone in their mother of a little five year old knows that there are make calls in the nhl. It's we hate it we were. They didn't happen but they do. It's a part of the game. We understand that we still pissed about it. It's i guess it's almost kind of like robot robot umpires. We hate when looking at you angel hernandez Make should he calls on balls and strikes. We know it's going to happen. It's a part of the game. We are going to get pissed about it but when you introduce the idea of robot umpires everyone gets pissed because it's taking something away from the game. Kind of same vein. I i walk a robot overlords. Kind of in that same vein. Everyone knows that these makeup calls exist. We all hate them. We don't think they should happen but we accept the kind of so the nfl is like oh no. There's no no frigging admitted guys. Say they can't they can't andrew they can't they can't or else it questions the integrity of the game also and i think this is a a futuristic ploy for gambling in the future once sports betting starts becoming legal in more and more states and across the world. These leagues half to have our at least half to put on the face. That things are going right. The nothing is influencing the game and that calls are being called the right way and by the book so long we they. They want those draft king sponsorship like the wwe. It's a little preview. Omar always ask this for the cage by but anyway. Yeah it's it's in some ways they actu- the nhl piss off more people with this name. Oh such an indignity. It's like it because it's like you're letting this do take the fall for something that we all know exists. It is a hit from the beginning of time it will continue to exist rest of the nhl. I mean they're trying to save their butts. 'cause i mean they could have. Let's say they could've. I'm just thinking of it from the nhl standpoint so while we could suspend him for a week whether you want to say few games. He doesn't call games for a few weeks. He does some sort of you know. We acknowledge he did. Some sort of i don't know reorientation. Even though it's his last his last season of his career to reread the the rule book. I have no idea any of that stuff. And then he comes back but then there's always going to be the question which in any game that he would be in the in. The referee crew for is all. Tim peels here. Look out and there's going to be more complaints more player's gonna be yapping coach screaming fans capping in the. Nhl didn't want that that follow. They didn't want that fallout at all. Let's be on it now. If they had them calling only buffalo games for the rest of his off season. I think that would have been the the happy medium for everybody. Let's be honest here. In the grand scheme of referee controversies. This is nothing compared to whatever. That dude during the lakers kings series. Back in tim. What what's his face. Yup yeah or even yeah. The the kings were salako in two thousand and two so. Yeah this this goes nowhere near was a regular season game the red wings making the playoffs none even maybe. The predators are making the playoffs. So it's probably not going to be. It's pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of things and just kind of like one of those the nhl kind of kind of deals. But yeah. yeah. I think we. We need to make a petition. Now gone change dot org bring peel back by can only call buffalo sabres games. I think he would just straight up retires like you. Don't i quit. I quit. i'm done no new for me. Oh boys well that took us the halfway point gentlemen so it means it is a word from our non sponsors people places things. Concept's what have you that we've been enjoying the last week andrew. I been enjoying your non-smart from last week was let's game it out. Due to larry's i love it. It is it is incredibly funny. You have to check that out. I love the planet zoo ones. Those are the best of all of them even makes me wanna get planet zoo as like a. Hey can play with this onstream with my nephew order. Remember my niece. And at the same time like i really feel like killing a bunch of drafts. Oh he's gonna start us out today. 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Wow the only thing that are good for is blowing up in a microwave or giving the kids on halloween just to see them cry or by the way. Congratulations on. i assume your boston. Pride winning isabel cup. That's true that happened. Were finally play. Some games Defeated the minnesota whitecaps ford three remember correctly. Yeah it was a close game. It was very close. game was four to the whitecaps Brought it within one with nineteen seconds remaining in the game empty net. Elast they could not Could not seal the deal in one thousand nine seconds so another trophy goes to boston. And who. Victor hedman is injured. And i am this That was gonna call on. Thanks for him watching the tampa bay. The hockey gods are trying to balance things out. We we lose. Glad you guys lose and i rarely get angry at referee calls. 'cause like oh you know why. The guy slid into him on the ice. 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I'm afraid of what will happen though it pops up on the screen on don't banning in two thousand twenty one we just got our video sponsorships back come on now anyway. Crack cookies very good They do have other varieties but the true crap cookies. Excuse me are the chocolate chips. Very fresh very yummy. Very dewey much delicious. They sustain re through at least one final study period I remember i was part of a study group for. I want to say krim long reads way cookies but we got a whole bunch of crack cookies as well as the brownies and other Tasty desserts that they sell their breezeway cookies crackers. Cookies gotta love him Promo code goodness goodness okay. All right then well. Then that's that's i think i've only eaten them once. Ever i was more health conscious back. Then at least did you see the picture of that hat that i sent you from the f. book. Yeah the panthers The panthers vice hat. Yeah that's up. Everybody's everybody's got to get on that. Got one one now. Gosh let's see my hat. I've well from a new hat in the longtime no long time. I think last. Christmas miami here remind but a yeah. No no no no. I'm good. I'm good with spending right now at this moment. I just bought a new video game. I don't know i'll do my nonsmoke- it is a video game. So it's again that i have yet to beat but i will probably beat it sometime this week because i'm on that trajectory it is. It's an oldie. I guess relatively old at this point but need for speed need for speed most wanted the second version of the game although the first one's not bad either but i i didn't complete that one but this one i probably will complete need for most wanted by. Ea games so ea calvin lucky stars. Count your lucky stars. That i'm not bashing you this week sometimes Let's see games released. What back twenty twelve. So you guys that something right eight years ago or nine years ago now. So but you guys really suck. This is horrible non sponsor but but deeper speed most wanted guys every once in a while. Maybe it's thanks to dougie souls me watching to extremes. I get the the need for speed. I get the age to play some racing games. And mario kart eight just doesn't do it. I need some semi realistic action. Not too realistic. I don't play grants juries money out stuff. I don't know nothing. I dunno where carburetor is i just want to get inside the wheel inside the world get get get behind the wheel and get inside the wheel. We kind of weird and just go so need for speed. Most one gives me that that satisfaction and this is pretty much an old racing game. You get this giant city which is a be. You know if you've played this game but it heavily looks like boston like heavily. Looks like boston that bridge. I don't know what is called the one next to the td center or td garden. Whatever that they got that bridge and there they got this one government looking building. I know i've been to it. That's in it's basically boston. It is basically boston. I don't know what other city it's mixed with because usually mix influ like influences from two cities like need for speed underground to was like a mix of la in miami which was catechal cool. But this is this. Is boston this. This is boston. It's it's good man. it is good. I can't really find many faults with it. it's not glitchy. i'm playing it on. We you by the way but it released on the xbox three six in the ps three and get on appears three quickly now because the nba to shut down the ps. Three store online. You can find the physical copy but yeah yeah. It's it's a good one. They got a bunch of cars. My my my favorite right now is the the ariel atom v. Something basically looks like a go-cart so that one's my favorite thus far from from playing it and the the crashes are spectacular because over of this game is the one who developed burn out so the action is. It's damn good as gamespot. Said and i mean the. The entire premise of the game is to defeat the most wanted. So you defeat. The ten most wanted people that in this game and they have their awesome car and you beat them in in the in the road. So it's it's that. And i think i need to defeat to more guys and or women. I don't know they're kinda featureless drivers to to beat the game and i've been screaming that a lot on twitch lately so if he has one check that out you can so promo code vehicular manslaughter. And i say that because the way you defeat the most one and you defeat them in a race and once you defeat the race if you wanna get the car that they're driving in you have to basically make them crash and some of the guys are so hard to beat that when you finally beat them you feel like nothing but killing them at the end. It's very satisfying. I will say that much. It is very satisfying to just just destroy them in and kill them at the end. It's it's fun so there you go all right. Charles the you can go next so taking into practice wanna kill. People might ons foster semi that kills the by saved the life. So boy is tied into stories together. Kind of fine boys as we know. I am still you know i. I had a solid two months of my life. Starting my twenty twenty one. I couldn't get all things lante. Why the wisdom teeth taken out buildings. We had a root canal done to do placement with the crown all these things and so there were certain foods. I cannot have so. I went to one the other places the other offices i worked at the other day and they had a high supply of candy. And i haven't had this sugary sweetness in so long. It's basically what. I would imagine this alive of mr raw mr bob ross at mr rogers who taste like i haven't had skittles in such a long time month on. It can have any hard candy that got metal doodle as my ancestors. Tell me i got that. I guess. I'm starburst biden and service. If i got that the other day. I inhale bag. It was just so good was delicious. Love me some skills. Mom's a kid man. It was rotation at fifteen was skills. Hot cheetos ed. Starters ain't nobody gonna put me down. And if i am on onset for diabetes. We know wise because damaged Fifteen twenty three and then working for certain nonprofits over gives me the benefit of free candy with the food banks. I will harass the job just for the holiday reece's cup split but getting full-sized skit omar's are full side bag of skittles. Thank you for shelter for knowing that. I want that stuff But it was so good. I just. I don't know how. I don't know if you guys just contact all the same flavors if you guys like to take just you know. Mix them altogether. But i will makes it like a color painting and put all my mouth. Just enjoy just letting it. Just take me in every way reform in my mouth and i love it. Boys odd Add some skittles. I feel like. I can't stress of it if you hate skittles. Just don't talk to me breaking up over done the skittles. The better kind of kenny's what. I've had to tell people's different between candy and chocolates and just so good at. Maybe we do the business make premium because even though kids. We're going to be on the off season. We still might be around for a very interesting kind of draft intent Volve either fast foods that nfl plan. I'm going to the cleveland browns of any fast food. Bad food drafts take anything with potential. We need to combating light. Apathy for the draft in all drafts in general. And i. it's so good. I log Promo code taste rainbow Yummy how do you guys feel got scandals. I like yeah i like. I like the the chewy version of I guess i was think of ams for cisco. They're both made by the same company. Right so i would probably. Yeah but you charles. Yes do you ever just put a bunch in your mouth in your suck on them and of course. That's why in the absurd. That's what the make sure of bob. Ross and mister rogers salivas yes right up boy just now. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast lamey explain. There's creation tools august to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer ankle distributor podcast for you so it could be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started okay. Well now we're into the second half gentlemen and i guess we. We should talk about some things that went down. Andrew your favorite part the nba. Definitely my favorite hard lately well. Nba deadline went down and guys have moved around as were bought out. Guys went to other places and charles is feeling some love and some hate some petty going. Today i start. Go ahead so i told you. Lamarcus aldridge you. You straight up. How you are brooklyn you want to brooklyn. They are a got you in blake griffin. That you wanted to brooklyn. Are you going to start. We had you ready. The plan was working at every way shape or form. And you go to brooklyn and you leave me. You leave me to be choosing between two former new orleans. Pelicans of either. I you know. I don't know how say is police. Mma or whatever davis possibly demarcus cousins. You hold the marcus. You had your opportunities not even mad. Andre jumping onto lakers diseases in the cranial shit. Show authorship storm For any kind of teams from his thomas. Detroit and cleveland. I think he only made the playoffs. Maybe twice in detroit. So i get it. I'm not gonna crap andre. His games limited. We talked about it on one of the show's brand. Lozad about how you know lamarcus. You were all about earning your winning culture you in portland. You went to san antonio we were ready for you. It was happening ila setup and you got cold feet and we should know we should know are good for juries so initials breakfast. Jeremy's i find very entertaining. Guys watch i like a lot digital. I can't watch the games. But i bring it to the point of was right for you. Your thirty five years old. You're gonna get a chance to probably get started. And now you're just getting the right pitch and remember this. Gay gonna get that ring and brooklyn. Because when i said it with his name was john right the every talking about not john from hockey but john for basketball. You got remember so i was saying that brooklyn was granted james harden. Mvp all the way no debate. Fight me on that. Don't give me that dockage stuff but you are going to settle for an eddy curry championship. Ring if you make it this year granted. There's nothing say that he is anything if not the best hennessy. You'll ever seen your damn life. We're gonna be loyal. We put on makeup to. We got a fancy new eyeliner. Victor all the depot We want to lush for that. We go to walmart. Your team to clicked wanted the onyx. By the way he wanted to culture to still young. I mean granted for a four year veteran forward. You can still be viable. I think with brooklyn they were. Just gonna use you as the veteran presence. We actually need your mid-range jumpers. We needed your outstanding ball skills. You look like you always liked him as a player. I've seen him live because he was in portland the year. The big three ran. That's what was like my first big game and that was like i haven't brandt roy. I've always liked in. San antonio is just missed the window by like a year ago felix plan that rotation. Yeah he's he's what's his minutes. He's the really. Yeah he just there to use any come on. Yeah oh my goodness eddy curry but like the thing of it. I mean granted not bad in yeah contentious different players like when we are. I'm not gonna throw that lie. But i'm talking about the effect that you're getting ready because they're scared that's hema scared brooklyn is scary. The humble pie can eat the humble pile them because they have to win it in the position. They put themselves in say heart. I didn't say they were gonna implode. I didn't say they were going to go down ship. I didn't say that we're gonna miss the playoffs. I was going to say that it wasn't going on out. Freddie we're going to talk about magic you best be shirt we talk about. Don't you worry. And but i still don't see it. And i don't know what you don't see. What brooklyn are they going to gel. They're all healthy together. Everything has basically been. I don't know how james harden can get a line all the times because it's bosley slowing down because there may appear steel. I have a joy of washing him. Play this season undisputed. Mvp dynamic would be like in a seven game series against a team that would at that point have scouted for them. That long i spend against philli or milwaukee. Or and i'm saying this with the miami he cash the er seventy eighth right now. But but i feel like this heat team is kinda aken to i. Guess this new york next team. That's on the screen right now for nba in the zone. Nineteen ninety eight in ten sixty four that that nicotine team. That was an eighth seed when they really shouldn't have been innate seed. They really shouldn't have they. Were probably a higher seed and they faced off against the miami heat were who are the one seed and they got him you know that was basically a one versus two matchup in the first round. So the happiness the heat's look like that we're gonna see we haven't seen a depot game just yet but why are we happy francisco. 'cause we got rid of the small. Oh boy for the big you know. The prophecies have come through calm. Charles tim kelly olynyk. Hey train finally finally left the station baby. Finally gone traded him out. I don't even remember what he got sent to kelly. You were good for like two years. But i got sick of him. Missing all those threes. i got sick. Missing jumpers at seven foot. Just put the ball back in. He just lamarcus but couldn't for nothing. This season nope and we sent it the houston. We swapped peixe. We got ruben expiring contract we swapped picks for whom the guy who wants to be here. The guy who basically probably said. Hey mickey hey pat. Take me 'cause. I'm going to re sign with you. The amount of money that you can give me. Yep he turned all a depot term. I wish was on here because he could grew about the victor oladipo focus. That pacers team is not good with them. Or without 'em right now of twenty to twenty five. I think and it's just a bonus and i mean not fully back bonus and malcolm brogdon kinda doing it but you always kind. Mrs score is not bender stuff. You always kinda miss it but we got that for nothing and expiring contract in the second round the mid. I thought i send it to you. You know i was happy We won the trade deadline because we gave up nothing because it was pretty evident we were going to reside kelly olynyk and we got a guy who i'm almost endless and anything can happen. Agency there is no oils. The your your job is to make money especially all depot. Because he's been around for a long time it doesn't feel like it originally served magic credit and he's just kind of bounce around but you know he wants that permanent home you know. He wants something close to that. And then you end up coming to us and he. I think he can get doing deal. Crop were recruited mel. Dwayne wade the great recruiter. Even have the time is still getting guys to come on over. I mean let's dislike. Make me the dwayne wade of our show. Give people to come on here. Yeah i guess so. Yeah well i kind of like the narrative of you smuggling people and just kidnapped them. Bring them here and there will little bit. We like a little bit the smuggling knowing that you are indeed our moral compass. But you have dark side beneath dexter morgan as a miami miami good boom for us because what this gives us if if healthy that's a big if but even at the hearing under five hundred unless we're going full toronto raptors which a reverse my humble pie course and say. I told you folks toronto sucks. I didn't want lowry only deepen so. Yeah i thought he was going to the off season and miami good price pig for us because for riley. When you're going for the big whales the idea is what's your definition of the big wheel is big will in length and girth in fat. How much oil. How much louder again from that will. And that's how we looked at ella depot fits a defensive position has scoring. we know he's her. We'll take that risk. Everybody's her on the heat and we're still grinding out. We have coaching. We have the foundation and when everybody says culture and they don't understand term culture. The culture is about just no excuses running out hard work leads of winning results. Not pure taylor. We are not the seventy sixers who just rest their laurels on. He's got potential causes a first round. Pick as does feel like that with seventy sixers because i'm crap on that because what was the best thing about the trade deadline for miami to the seventy sixers not get better nap at george hill. Okay i thought they would have been better. Play to try to get williams to be honest with you because i love atlanta getting him really do atlanta's goring atlanta's turned it around with nate mcmillan former coach out there but i was listening ability to count. Yeah yeah well. Yeah they got. Yeah that yeah. Raise on the mostly for the play offs. I would assume. But i also i. They're trying to get as many guys who can avoid the. Because i mean we may on the floor they are not gonna scores they. They are not trae. Does everything for them so the just need as much as possible just to find a way. They're just trying to get out of that seven or was it the the seventh through tennessee. The qualifying round the just trying to find a way to stay above nabis and not be selling the just starting to be six at this point which miami and charlotte in the division now doing. Oh interesting jam us like him. But we haven't. We still don't have depot. That's that's the thing thing is everybody is beating everybody in the east. And that's the problem tartu. It's hard to get a gauge for anybody. We just beat the knicks and the next serve the best defensive team in the nba by are also like the second best team in the nba. So basically that was really. He ran away with it after a while. I was there some big runs in order to take to beat the knicks last night. But yeah yeah. It's hard to gauge. Were where people are. We don't even know. We don't even have real gates on the top teams. Really everybody's just trying to find a way to beat the lakers at the end on the other side. That's a team that everybody is saying. Oh it's it's they're done now but it's like everybody would be healthy healthy. Lebron what ron learned in miami. The regular season. I mean come on doesn't really matter position. Warriors one seventy three seventy. Three games in the season didn't matter at the end if they didn't win. The whole thing secretary for the lakers. All right we'll win fifty five games and into the playoffs as a two seat doesn't matter to us so let's break some hearts though because orlando magic. Ask one of the so andrew. If you're live back there well we're gonna talk about orlando your beloved. Yeah yeah you're you're the one of the four major pro sports that are there though you're one team the orlando magic. The pride of the. What's the slogan orlando city beautiful city beautiful slogan for like ten twenty other cities. But get an. I've only found one other place that has that nickname. Four abel's we had i. Okay well if you wanna learn about some history. That's there was home you movement about the city beautiful back in the late eighteen hundred Go read a book if you want to go to. Local local libraries where is spawn. Every few years do that you'll learn about the city. Beautiful yes your your beloved city. Beautiful your beloved magic. No boy no. They're they're they're constructing a tank at this moment and this one on purpose this is not the the one that that just destroyed buffalo surprisingly for them. No this one is one is on purpose. I know nobody likes this tank. Sometimes you like the sensitively. Nobody like this tank. Andrew you guys have the most hated tank in basketball the moments and we on our twitter page have nominated you to be the new. Gm of the orlando magic. I saw and i humbly accept the nomination andrew. What would you do. If you're the general manager of the orlando magic knowing nothing. Nothing about the national basketball association. But all of orlando are. I would find people that are smarter than the to sit at least advise me. What the oath to do But more importantly. I talked his people in the city because ultimately they're the ones that are buying season tickets that are going to see the games you know you're dealing guys like Nikola guba chech- Who's a fan favorite. And he got choked up when he was talking about Leaving orlando in his introductory conference. you know. It's it's tough to lose guys like that. It really hurts. The fan base city makes you lose confidence. I mean case in point. Look at the marlins of we go. come online. You could have gone for the raise. You guys dealt blake snell. Come on now. Yeah it's it's it's stupid. Data charles weather is a yankees fan. You guys keep everybody over paving the bad ones to get giancarlo looking good man at a glass thing about orlando is at least with oklahoma when they were tanking and they are superstars. Ross who is an animal. Daisy li his score. Thirty four points twenty assists almost rose scott styles record and Ten rebounds he is now averaging triple double again this season so yes he is a very selfish player that regards the least least good. Yes sasser code. But that's the thing though. 'cause easing big fisher hall of fame and is gone there but it's not like the thunder who got rid of all that and just harvesting like all these first round picks because they'll get can play. Who did the magic get to chicago when you get lord mackay. Can you got one del. Carmen junior could even kobe white. I don't know you get rid of bangor. We talked about it on the show. Will we have brenden aaronson. Dave what he had air. I think bangalore is A callback right but arrogant. he's over endeavor. I think he fits denver perfectly to be honest with you. Denver was missing something. And now you have it and get that jamal. Murray gary harris jokic and Gordon in that lineup as okay not big interested is denver was the most unremarkable warned seed season ago or two season go on remarkable to seed or three season go but they kept getting there now. Mike malone remarkable resentment on is competent. To kinda get us get denver into a very interesting kind of play things. But you. you'll get another name to come back to it. I kind of get to a degree. Getting rid of nick because you had drafted obama two years back. But it's not only move. I think was a late bloomer. Anyway but he just been around for so long but evan forty-eight who i'm not crazy about he was having an item remember rewire to and then gordon's out. So you like four guys. Also freddie is going to be crying in his fantasy league but hopefully hopefully that were forty other teams as he often does. but no. but i wouldn't you pretty much. You keep those players though in even got traded out. I don't imagine like obviously. I think there's just gonna suffer a little bit because playing time him in splitting analysts. Make mckinley at powerful. But i still think that's too many as on the body a listener against sell out but it might not be conducive to the scoring points rebounding. They get there but it wasn't a bad trade deadline for it was a terrible trade deadline for them because the fact that i don't know what your future is you have basically mortgage on one bad season because i believe they made the playoffs last year. You're still taking consideration. Web seven through ten is the little mini plans. Which is kind doable. Knees if you get a I kept them. Just 'cause i. I don't know if he did a fire sale. So that's why just to make sure but it's not a situation where you kinda like bail out. There's always a possibility for a hot run. Because now you're starting the second part of the season but to do an implosion of your roster because either your cheap or because of the fact that you just don't wanna deal disgruntled players anymore. Aaron gordon one out which is fine because you was probably up for a second hundred still young guy Does that make chicago scarier though to you. Because they're they're kind of like a of miaki above average. But i think civic has earned his position being competent player and getting a rebounder and a good kreider and put out. The guy was also us two years. I think Think that's a benefit to. I wanna play them right now. I've talked a lot of trust is actually being. Don't make me that humble pie. If for some reason the lay out from four three saas number four and five is. Don't give me that. But yeah that's my thought orlando so i'm trying to see who their general manager is. It's currently john hammond and he's off for right. He's yeah he's been there since two thousand seventeen twenty eighteen. I was just trying to see if if this if this is. I mean this could be his big play. Was there before he got there has been there since twelve. So this is. He earned that big contract in that in that first year as an all star i mean he's he's trying to hit that reset button and and get all. The guys are his on this team. Possibly the team his way. Let's see what was his his past. What is the nba executive becker. Twenty ten when he was with the milwaukee bucks. They went from thirty four to forty. Six victories and the bucks did nothing. After that i mean. But here's the thing you trade away the guy with the contract who was actually a good player but then you roar marquel foltz who was just we like marquette in the sense of him getting an opportunity but i don't think he was really worth. The money to get into. Syria was hurt so and they have been barabbas injuries. All teams are. That's why you have to build a well-constructed rosser. I will lease from saying from slots one to twelve. Everything else is. Just gimme a try. Yeah i i don't know i don't know what the magic thinking. I don't know what the deal is anything else. I 'cause you're lies not site from the big players that we know about in atlanta Not really much else for me. I think we kind of covered everything that stuck out. I would say this. I don't get the clippers. Getting on what they're getting raisch on. That's what they're trading for. That's absolutely what veteran leadership. The guy will. They're like josh. Jack in your face and there's a lot of you say what you want. Why but. I'm also not said paul george playoff bricks. So if he's breaking kawais walking on one leg and then rondo like the only person who bought rondo as being the legitimate guy. That wire team was the dallas mavericks when they trained for back like twenty twelve. So because you need that scoring because you don't have mantras heroin anymore. The russia other team is very efficient. So you get a guy who's a great basketball i. Iq knows how the passing lanes. But where's your shooters. It's very different team in. I'm not a suicide note on tyron lewis being the definitive coach his. Yes and i'm saying that knowing that he has a championship. Because that cleveland rosser was just stellar right and yet i'm like and you have. He had hit that shot. If dream on doesn't do what he does. Did the probably the win win. That i'm saying we all know i. I know lou was not doing good but it hasn't. Luke earned to be What do you need more a veteran guy who has all that experience or a clutch shooter on your bench team new. Maybe he's not a very like weird kind definition for a guy who's been three year six man year but six matters is just want. Just just be that. He's the veteran guy at the end of the thing but the he have everything else. And that's that's you diagnose. His place if the clippers just traded for their own version of you don aslam little boy but you know but is a big difference between donald said john. I'm just saying. I always but regime rub zoos the wrong way though. That's the one thing people need to understand is that he's not mr lau. Do i know because the whole chicago incident. It was him. jimmy. Do i yeah. There was like some fist ban on. They're there were much too. Yeah well there was the fact that we won't get into that but there were there. Were some issues there okay. I think that's that's a good summary of the nba trading deadline. Yeah ok to. I'd like to request a segment. Or if you will we can okay. Yeah we got. You want frozen fours we were. You're looking for yeah. I've been chatting with the eu over here and he's given me a huge rundown Four for his thoughts on the opening rounds. And i'm just going to read them off here because it'll be quicker. So the mid west midwest regional frankly neither result was unexpected while we thought american international might be capable. The upset north dakota was to get on the board quickly. Aic went into utter panic mode after that. And that's all she wrote. Icees upset stem from being able to play defensively of defensively. An attack on the breakout. They weren't suited playing at attacking game against north dakota especially after only having played two games in the months. Leading up to the tournaments. Duluth and north dakota are pretty evenly matched so a tight game wasn't entirely surprising. Duluth definitely look like the better team though and of course almost had wanted twice before finally getting the game winner. That's the five t one by the way I think though there is a case be made about working in the backup goalie. Goalies and multi. Ot games after duluth was able to make the substitution have worked out on north dakota's goal ultimately was just too slow on what be would be routine saving regulation and just as a personal note. That is something that i saw. The you mentioned in the chat during the game is that ric start getting into really long games like that. You're going to see really crappy goals. Go in this one was. I probably could have made the save. I i'm not putting down the goalie in the slightest gas by napa which he he was gassed. It was just a a shot that just went straight in the five. Will he ninety nine percent of the time he would have stopped that. That's a quick. That's a quick and easy stop but it just. It slipped by as tired as hell. He played eight. They were going into their eighth period. so east regional. Frankly bemidji had no business being in the tournament based on their record in the wchs compared to house how compared to how certain other teams did in stronger leagues. but damn if they didn't take full advantage. The situation of ants wisconsin. The badgers are simply outplayed. Out coach in lack cohesion. While letting bemidji control the middle of the ice contrast that with umass who has deadly goaltending and defense and were able to pick apart lake. Stay in the miggy and route to blow out winds of their own. Only reason i didn't pick umass to come out of the region was because i assume they will be facing wisconsin instead. But it seems greg car will or carbel has finally figured out again who his starting goalie should be. An lindbergh is the man who carried them to the title game and twenty nineteen and just as a note so the the tournament was cancelled last year. Due to the virus Year before that. Twenty nineteen the finalists. Were you a minnesota duluth and umass you duluth ultimately one So this is the second time in two seasons. That umass is back to the frozen four anyway. I think them umass actually winning hockey east conference. This time around gives the team confidence boost. West regional didn't watch minnesota omaha since the start and ended during the overtime started and ended during the over minus other game. Yeah an entire game was played during the overtime of another Surprising minnesota state was definitely as much about if loan as much as it was about ministers win considering that peac was up to do with less to to go but gave up a pair of dirty walls. That really can't minnesota so to stay on the other hand. While i stand by my original comparison we were chatting in the In the discourse server mall watching against. I asked him. I asked him. What was the comparison to Minnesota state upsetting minnesota. And he said. I stand by my original comparison to a michigan app. Stage clouding auto. Because a this is a game that on paper minnesota should have won handily but be people tend to ignore slash. Forget that app state was the class the fcs at the time of that upset. The wchs is a weak ass conference. And i still don't think minnesota state is that good especially in light of nearly losing to quinnipiac. What is also open enough that they could call the upset. I think mika possibly be compared to the two thousand seven. Nba playoffs when the golden state warriors. Beat the dallas mavericks. I'd have to leave that to charles knows what it means. That's what that was a barrett. Dave yeah barron davis don nelson. Yeah exactly those warriors. So i don't know what moscow is or is not doing to prepare. Its team but i at saint cloud state now Should also know that. Minnesota state has been the regular season championship champion in the wchs to the last three to four seasons in a row So saint cloud state and now with this wanted. Minnesota squad came out flat against an opponent. They really should have been able to take care of business against. But just like wisconsin bemidji minnesota just was just be flat out at work by the mavericks and seems like minnesota was barely even try. And then there's the northeast regional. Boston south Saint cloud state is arguably the tackiest game. I've ever seen in terms of the teams themselves be you. Losing wasn't entirely surprising because the team has no structure on offense and basically relies on getting breaky. What breakaways in transition to generate offense. This has pretty much. Been the case in david. Quinn initially took over coach but those two incredibly fluky goals that saint cloud state score to get on the board initially. Were all sorts of ridiculous. I recommend taking a look at the highlights but this game had it all pucks magically floating to open men in the slot ping pong goals hit so hard the fucking boards were cracked a penalty shot by the short handed team during a major penalty attempted fights and by the way pfizer not allowed in college Since neither team winning would really be chaos. It seems that the hockey guns decided break out all of the other crazy events instead and then boxing college saint cloud state. I think that just came down to spencer night. Not really being able to keep his shit together. During the games after hit a panthers fans virtually kicking off the nets during the first two periods. At which at some amazing guys. It was amazing. In the first two periods he kicked the net off the mornings five times. Five like corey. We're like come on. You've got to call delay of game penalty atar feature goaltender time son when Saint cloud state was in the offensive zone. And then sure enough. The one time that they were in the offense the couple of times that they weren't offensive zone was kicked off. They scored so Don't worry we're berta longa. We'll we'll we'll we'll have good talking to on him dory get him straight. i'll send them straight so to certain point you have to was being done on purpose to slow down. Saint cloud state since they were unable to otherwise establish a rhythm to start once a very go once it s resorted though they're able to get established a to establish sustained attacks. Ski boston college zone frozen. Four predictions saint called state. Three minnesota state zero saint called state can be hot or cold themselves with their defense is rolling while minnesota states goalie dried in the k. Was shaky as hell during the regionals. I don't think he'll be able to handle the pressure of the saint cloud state attack if were night couldn't Missile duluth one umass zero in overtime. Both teams have stout defenses. And this you asked. Team is definitely better than the one that got routed in the twenty nine hundred title game but i think you. Nba is just a tiny bit better sink. Close state then thwarts you. Md for their first national title. So that's that's the quick recap from our caulk College hockey analyst. We'll see i. Here's something amazing that that was really cool. Three of the four teams in the frozen four from minnesota. So you've got minnesota's eight with mcdonalds. it's well it's the state of hockey You've got minnesota statement. Kato you've got saint cloud state and then you've got minnesota duluth. I think it's the first time that one st is add Every hockey journey came either gonna ot or one by three clubs. Goal jacqueline I think this is the first time this is what happens. When you don't have proper seating. oh so yeah. I think this is the first time that any state has had three teams in the frozen four And something else that. That was very interesting. Note the big ten conference had four teams in the ncaa tournament. to them were eliminated from the outset because the baras. That was notre dame and michigan. If i remember correctly you guys left the correct me be you or freddie as says The you mentioned. Wisconsin got embarrassed. And then Say michigan and ninety two Then who's the other in. The minnesota lost to bemidji is on the screen but yeah The big big ten suck at a terrible awful. No good bad playoff There's anything that you do. You have any questions for you where we move on. Or that's that's concise wall. Well thought out as you can get for sure okay. I will certainly be on the lookout april eighth. Everybody for the next several semifinals get to the finals on april tenth games being played out in pittsburgh and all right. It's been that kind of season. Well it's the end of the show boys. We know where we're headed. It is time off to the cage with charles. Sanyo charles. you're ready. I'm ready to break it down. Woke up everybody. Your weekly true lex cage with charles full disclaimer. Wrestling is not faking. It scripted is a stage fighters chase for glory is about minimum being holy. Hell of each other wanted caught a little blood. Might wanna get the revenge that they need wanna put their name in appointed big like wrestlemainia to concede such as exceeded tuesdays wednesdays also because at bc of course is down at c. n. So the guy put hockey somewhere and sometimes just felt damn good entertainment and damn good comedy that sometimes about making real bad decisions that you hope it pays off. In a long time roles you are stuck with stockholm syndrome at. You're thinking of that. at certain. tidal design is pretty. It's really pretty ugly. Tala one second Our friend of the show. Jeremy tash shea has just poor here a very jackson. Also the p. in loan depot park will be lower cased loan l. is lower case. The da's capitalize and the pm park will be lower case. So that's how the marlins are going to be doing things for the next few years joy. Well are learned syria. I if it is what the what what he wants and we. We cannot question him. It stockholm stockholm from. You have to learn to love it right. Even though you're initially against it lowering the love. It'll be fan. Would know that for sure. Yeah because it's gonna be a segue took over these learning to love it even though you're against it so guys i watch fast lane. I walked fast enough peacock for those who have been listening to the ninety episode that we've been introducing the cage. Wbz author less than he writes the wb network to abc universal to peacocks. They can be the primary place. Where all Youtube so essentially my w network subscription was canceled. I'd go get peacock. Excellent deal four months for two fifty. Each jump up is already been caught hiccups or some people concerned the fact that there is going to be edited content to make sure it's up to the cultural norms of what universal seeking also what. Wb is actually doing their. This is just the us only a peacock. Has it for those rights so anybody who's international and abortion workers. You're getting international vpn debate that works also scrubbing Why because wbz will wrestling. Entertainment is a pup loan stock so in today's cancel culture climate. Tracy do something. I can upset. Everybody could lock peacock once you get to the days. Once you get to. The attitude era abroad penny matches at the oddities for blood. Matches misread man making out with your strategy. That still gives me nightmares the fact that vince. Vincent kennedy command has touch back goddess That's creepy very creepy. Supercricket you'll but wrestling's also what guys a circus. It's a theater. It's a parade sometimes soap opera as well as the storylines coming came in between volvo graphic gore because the licensing rights this not deputy f. w. e. w. w. e. c. e. c. w. extreme championship wrestling guy. So it's pretty graphic stuff together. Par bleier a lot of blood. I like it but Is interesting so i try out peacock. Watch faslane fastlane last show because it was kind of like a throwaway pay per view or no idea south of us bad but there was two matches that helped out if you go on a c. range it was just a minor to a see pay-per-view but shadow out drew mcintyre. Shame as great badge. I liked it not diku. Anything goes kind of saying they have many names for it but just beat the holy hell each other. I liked roman versus edge. Upstart day. O'brien with edges special forces. 'cause now edge has seemingly turned heel. I don't think he's the bad guy. We'll talk about that a second. We're going to smack down the road. Russell has kinda begun and using peacocks. App gives me some concerns. Because i don't think you can pause during live shows so if i have to go to the off from you know what's going to happen there right. I'll half the holdouts the Over to do it during a throw a match like shane. Mcmahon broad stroman. The second. I promise but this is what i have and i'm paying less money for that. I was paying for the w network so wa digit right. Because i want the library content that they have all the wrestlemanias of i've already been able to watch some my favorite wrestlemania because it's a long eight hour workday nine hour workday working at home and i don't wanna put on the finals yield continuing season of my here academia that i'm on because i'll get caught up of been on attack tied him. We've been doing that. Because i never got to season two and i'll get i'll get lost in translation but put out wrestlemania twenty five which is probably the best resume which has shot. I left off at the start of shawn michaels Which might be the best wrestlemainia match out there. I really she talked ten matches. I've seen them. I've witnessed before the russell maintenance show which is next week Becker yes it is so much going on his cage should be at our self inviting hotchpotch. Mccosh at all but peaked guide. I got used to it as as everybody else. Let's talk about a few things before we get to the road wrestlemainia. Eight w congratulations. You get to watch me. i get to watch you. Everyone's day because annex t as you see willing wriggles. Down moving to tuesday nights now was not winning the wednesday night war as was done. Don't have it's a war for a year called like little battled but they were splitting ratings. Neither were broker billion either so this move benefits. Both sides has annexed will go as low as like six hundred thousand in the nielsen. Viewings the devils and aid of your windows but they hardly cracked a million had hard time getting onto eight hundred thousand viewers. And here's the thing you has got to consider for. Annex t is really like the weekly show because they have a little bit more pay per views. Or what have you. Aws long stretches of no pay per views so sometimes they have this special event. South like winter is coming or saint paddy's celebration Baker russell mashes but some those matches would matter like big time. They're trying to propel has like a mini pay per view segment into only about seven. Hundred thousand viewers is not good. I mean granted. You're getting money through the sponsorships at tnt's tribe. Matt they had shack on there. For christ's sake stay give brandy roads. And cody rhodes around reality tv show because let's really just stealing deputies because wb has total bells. Tolled him divas. Ms mrs would have a real world wrestling. They don't put the health. Irvine cisco seem ideas. I'm not gonna be compensated for it. So they're winning. Not because they cannot be annexed a little bit In the ratings war but just because they might get to a million of viewers each bras averaging about one point eight million each night and mind you say is because like alive crowd. I think it's just storylines away though said but if it helps push a w. two million views each night that goes for long essential because right now there's too much for them. 'cause they have eight of dark that as which under youtube channel now they have adar death elevation so you get to see other wrestlers on there. But they don't get dynamite time and they're not big enough in they're probably not financially profitable enough to have a raw smackdown speak opponent but this is a win for them. Also annexed addict see beforehand used to be on the w network exclusively a only got the usa deal because aid of was kind of grown into cutthroat for universal. It's probably better has made. That's live original content than showing either a modern family rerun show is finished or a law. Svu run which face a my is elliott loft. So this gives a new component for the the tuesdays. I like it. Because i means monday night. Raw which i really haven't watched rob because part of the problem with the roads. Many guys is that when the match set in stone into the stories are bad. I don't care about the stories until i get to. Russell may was wrestlemainia. Matches usually get before everything a vignette of everything. That's going on. So i get caught. Spirits wash on youtube Especially since more transfer even talk about is today. Mushrooms matches a watch the other. And i'm saying it right now. Because i don't want to forget about it. That was a foul ladies basketball. Women's that way baylor she. She got fouled. I don't get it the player from it. Like but gino unravel gets go onto the final floor cropped. That's that's how i feel about the ncaa all time. Secure shooting dot com rise in the background. Can't i'm a. I'm a week and you can go in there speak of annex teed doing a gauntlet a lunar battle royale because they have a pay per view next week they're doing. Nfc stand delivered swing to two nights so night wants to commit usa night use I kinda like it. I kinda liked that idea because benefits. Both sides. Benefits live tv Memphis people wanna get the peacock promotional deal. Because i'm telling you guys right now if you like wrestling. It is inexcusable to not pay ten dollars for four months. Konta cancel it afterwards. I don't care what you do but it's literally nothing. You're paying ten bucks a month for the networks. Now you're getting four months of the same price and usually delivers on their shows. I think there was only the in your house. I didn't like last year. So what they're doing tomorrow's gonna gauntlet match then so night. One end won't go more full diving because all altay out next week. Hundred episode cage is going to be an end. Ww fully but they got some stuff going on in their So eighty w good on you can gather annex t. I care about your matches. We'll talk about more next week. The whole thing about the battle royale last six than left. Get to go to gotland match on night. One and night to go against johnny gargano for the north american championship unnecessary because dextra. It needs the ones having to storyline with. Johnny gone predating about three months ago so for story purposes. I don't think loomis needs to win a match in order to get a title shot you because just have it be there. 'cause they're cuddly semi feuding kidnapped austin theory. He's turning the heart logos. He's ruining the way family now. However this is just a utilize everything to give me. Rally strong versus china gargano peppers. Good news new shorts guys outta to be so excited that you know i'm going to have to have covid wearing diapers to change. Roddy strong king go. He has been underrated performer. He's been highlight. I loved him. The undisputed are officially broken up. Sorry tell you guys this colin colorado unsanctioned night to chefs kiss but utilizes because roddy is built for the insurance. Have built the story of the A winning the elevator of having survived one week of battery out then going to a night before william linear gauntlet and then going Johnny go and you can have johnny wayne still off limits. Take it off on her show because what better way. I feel to crown a new champion than the new day for the show. Bill people there. Because that's how you can make people wanna loss tuesday match right you say. Hey johnny just want a very hard match against roddy strong that this tuesday has against excellent us bernie title main event talk sat stuff out that's logical bookie but that's the problem. I'm smart in sometimes. Vince We talk about the real monkey. Because we're gonna wbz in a second but we got to talk about the real problem. So new japan unveiled their unified mobile gp natural grand prix world heavyweight championship. So if you saw photos of the original item you gp title. It was nice as black vogel in the continental tire was white labeling with white political. They've merged it coda on the boat. This is the problem della. And then they give me this tidal. And i've seen it in the video of the violent i saw stills of it and it's not like the us championship which i think is the most recent time ago belt because we're county anti championship. It was not prepared finish. They still showed it in. The game of the finished. Product brody died so they gave the finish fox son now. They gave us the one. That's actually better. This is stuff. That was planned what i can call the. I love the new championship. People hate i think it looks like an oversized super bowl ring. I think it's perfect aaa to be honest with you. I look at this thing. There's just so much trash on it. People hate it. they think it's like the divas title. That was deputy for lonzo. I don't even think it's that at all. I legitimately see as you mentioned that. Looks like a transformers. Cyber like the septic auto body schedule The wonderful one one. Yeah but that's the thing what it reminds. Me of is like the little Little bell the bell cymbal. From supermodel three-year-old we can become cat. That's what i think of for some reason. Whatever it's called the belvoir bellflower. That's literally what pops my. Because i think i know what they're going on they're looking to whereas if you try match it looks like a crowd of the world on it. Which is okay it theory of the execution the workout because it looks sheep is the word i want to say and i don't know if i like because i get the idea that world to intercontinental makes no sense so you could have something because these are the past ones that we're seeing macular those are all the titles so you have the intercom That was unify the heavyweight titles unified. You have the number of the junior heavyweight which is for the crusades and to the right of the united states title which is held by jon. Moxley right so they're all like in between i don't hate the united states our. I think it's fine. The junior heavyweights fine. I actually don't like junior. Titles because allow them once. They're in that they get called up any way to the main level. But i don't know if i like it because to me. The best heavyweight championship bias is the big gold belt from w days and of course when it became to be ro heavyweight championship because it bring that up. Just bring it up if you can't right now because we go it articulate this comparison because on that title big old belt it has the wheel shaped structure that came in with the little groupings but in of itself i have here. I've been a Wcw heavily championship. And maybe it will come because this one is no longer occurring module. I do like the awol heavyweight championship because it looks like something from combat sports but to me. The most perfect heavyweight title is always gonna be ww's heavyweight championship also when it was rebranded has the world heavyweight title. It's it's the big goal belt was made famous for coming from wwl essay. He was gonna bring over that big old but it's huge. I have a copy of it. I love it. It was three hundred dollars whilst Says no purpose for it but what i do is at at work. We did like the inter-programme agencies self employed years stuff like that. I just handed off to that. You know that little pricey but way they did it it was the big world it was two guys like grappling each other it had like the groupings and then we looked at this. That beautiful thing. Have you ever seen anything more beautiful. You know my firstborn will not be as beautiful as that champion shine on amazon ball. I have it so you know because kings daycare kings but look at it. There's a crowd on top of the world. And if you look at it if you look at that and you look at what. The wg p. world heavyweight championship looks like i feel like there's a certain mimicry to it and it doesn't work and coda was coming is essentially that tweet with lingam. Kota looks kind of miserable. Because i don't think it look stupid but i don't think it looks good. Some people really just hate it. i hate it. I just don't think it was fully necessarily but when you think about it if you're two bells were like a standard sized gold with black strap in a standard size goal white strap what are you it right. How do you make that better. You kinda can't unless you make it like the world bigger but they could have done a better was that and the problem is you're stuck with exclusive sneak for all my god. Yeah it done damage. It does look like cody's neck now crab it does it. Does it really hit that. Cody we love you. Follow us on twitter. Jr deputy as charles the truth Damage attached to grow like. Oh you have confidence pulling off but that title crazy about that title. So that's a big fail me bra and now you can't even own it you have to just keep with it ango from there and pray not a lot of people see because it just looks awkward on coda so looks awkward on coda is gonna look i would say the wwe nfc championship is pretty up their quality. Housing look when eventually shingo takagi becomes. So let's talk about new japan recording. There's a pay per view in this weekend. Genesis is going to be Just a soccer is going to be koto gucci. Defending his new. You know mattel plated title belt. Mattel may title bell mattel toy brad for those. Who don't know going against a will. Aw spray in the empire. I don't think well wins but will wins. Holy crap will that cause a lot of problems. I'm just ready to get to code vs shingo. I feel like. I've been deprived at that. Better bet now had to eat humble pie about being wrong by mitchelson seeing what they're doing there so that should be good. I'll youtube but i don't know what the other matches are really pay attention to. I think jay possibly going against hiroshi takahashi. I'm kinda done with that. Accolade goes to show that russell keenum. That's what let's jay white reclaim or winning the original heavyweight championship back. Then but we'll see what happens there out the full carter. Maybe i'll do like tweeting during that stuff but always have to be subject to change. All cards are subject to change. What else change the roads wrestlemainia give you guys some updates. The magic confirmed will go a little bit more in detail about next week. 'cause i promise you'll be arrested cage but Dan bryan triple threat. Guys i was kinda right about. I call on the show two weeks ago. You know. hire me vince. I know what's going on so edge turned pseudo. He'll andrew at the fast lane. Because he was the enforcer there was some stuff that goes on she made roman tapped Romans to the yes lock. But it was like the lies atop the granted. the counter-arguments relevant did have ryan beat one one-two-three three on a pen but the rough was knocked out but basically edge healthshare by brian edge lost. It hit everybody with because it was awesome. He's cleaner of it at roman Pinned him and then what happened on. Friday night smackdown. And he's going to. He's going to adam pearce decide. Hey don't have ryan. The brian does all drive. Franken does is still spotlights. All he does is still spicy hogs wrestlemania moments. And that's an interesting story. Because it's true to cases in point it was the royal rumble roman winds which he got a title shot against triple h and the crowd made such a stink about it. They had ronan versus brian at fast lane for storyline purposes where the condition was if bryant one and beat roman. He goes against h. at that wrestlemainia. Unfortunately it was roman research that wrestlemania was trash. But that was the whole thing. Brian had to be into the momentum being a fan favourite and then inserting himself in the picture and then a couple of years prior probably will best meet events and also rustling stories. Was brian kept getting screwed. Was those be randy. Orton batista Too strong for him at a lead to brian versus h in the opener Thirty don't quote me on it. You had probably right a probably wrong. We'll see and then later on. It was dan o'brien versus regular versus batista. Where he had his resume moment and one. That's how the ad to of course Relinquish it because of injury. 'cause always happen so edges like i'm on the royal rumble. I came in a one isla outlast. Everybody i outlasted you. Get your brian. You're telling me you deserve a title shot because you made roman tap ref wasn't there so he got brought it. I liked the source of people are like. Oh that doesn't mean edges this because he was drawing as a face no. I just think that vince realized two things. one brian. such an excellent talent in there was no few to put in for him as a one off match that you rather insert them in all four triple threats if you have all for using the best talent that you have available. I don't eat every talent to be used. Thought paul for the best house of vail to be there to be utilized And then to it also goes to show what i believe from seeing a couple of matches edge currently is that he's still kinda slow in rusty. Triple threats you can highlight people's weaknesses. But i don't think anybody should be complaining about brian or edge or roman especially when now you can gamble it on it boys seattle bring back foreshadowing so wbz. Dr king's had now have a working relationship and partnership or you can bet on wrestling and this is how explain to you why. I think it's brilliant. You never really know who is going to win. You can tell yes scripted. Yes that's what i was going to ask like. How do you bet a scholarship balls. Pretty damn fixed in the then be a also so the only people who knows what's gonna happen is fisk man and it's only events because guys cards subject to change is basically him. There's last minute religions go there and you don't know about injuries there guys who get scraped because of injuries and tiles were changed hands. You budget i'll give you a great example when a bosch goes wrong so is versus should nakimora smackdown for the united states Two three years ago the ref messed up. Did a quick pin in archer won the title. It was not supposed to happen. Rusev nakimora i believe refuting against each other and then the issue happened to lead to our issue become. Us champion down. Betting is perfect. Because if you're a gambler you're gonna love professional wrestling because professional wrestling. I think it's better on. The predictions is also better on the swerves. You can have. You can bet the i don't know the the whole intuitive this of it how they would do it but if you said charles how how can i bet on this okay. Do you wanna bet that ends and account or you can put money that ends on disqualification. If you're a trap he'll veer shit. He'll who knows about the lose than amusing sharon his opponent to retain his title might be a situation where the challenger wins but the champion retains. It's really that down the line betting it's almost the most accurate way as like. Oh the over three. Or whatever the phrase is i don't bet you've fantasy football next coming second place some trash friday chuckles at my spirit right now but you have many multiple ways. If you have triple threat of mania maybe agrees is the odd. Because now you have between three guys as end with brian winning owning romo when he who pins who. Who's the one ease. Probably be brian right because roman can't lose. I really don't want roman jewelers claim to be terrible. Wisconsin should have that titled till um summerslam and then edge. Do we want edgy. Because him in brian. Brian lara loose. The pin edge continues that feud with him and they have a one on one view. It's beautiful you can put bent on the most minute things and also how does that does that person tap out roman tapped out for will look like the first time in his career granted it was encountered but has happened again or does he get hit by spear goes from there. You can have variables for anybody who loves gambling will like floyd mayweather is product salivating at this right now floyd. Wbz russell may michigan stick. Show put money on something else so yes it's scripted. But you're not positive. Know all you're doing doing a very strong speculation as the same equivalent of The lakers fully healthy going against the sacramento. Kings were not healthy. A standard gang is the equivalent of the jacksonville. Jaguars were trash. Last year. going against the kansas city chiefs. It might be an upset. Your feel like your gut instincts gonna put you into different areas. So tell me guys. How is that different than anything else that you bet on. I think it's a brilliant deal. Because what w what's due in the year. That was supposed to be the worst thing for the pandemic and everybody was losing money. They found ways to make money. Boy and wrestling is consistent. You wanna scream about the draft canyons on the wrestling three sixty five seven days a week. Seven in a you also have three brats. I don't know the intricacies. Bob sure you can make a great way for this. And that's all i got for you this week. Okay well then so. Maybe we can do a well. Maybe we can do. A charles's picks segment at the end of these. Even get the gambling community and on this america him a little bit right. Yeah yeah. I mean damn if you did on my g. One climax went with coda perfect maybe a separate posted. We'll find a way. We'll find a way. Well that is it for us today. Ruth thanks for for be you for for chiming and they're on college hockey on the ncaa tournament. Thanks to freddie for joining us as well. Thanks to my mom. My friends here. 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184: We're Back After A Week's Vacation To Talk About Recent News Surrounding The Boston Bruins

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184: We're Back After A Week's Vacation To Talk About Recent News Surrounding The Boston Bruins

"Thank you for listening to the black and gold hockey podcast. Please support the show by subscribing to and leaving a 5-star rating for the show on Apple podcast. IHeartRadio on B song Spotify Stitcher in any of your favorite podcasts platforms. You could also support the show by going to our website black and gold hockey where there's always exciting articles by the BMV writing staff. Why are there don't break click on the banner are great sports fan shopping experience to start show. We are off on the short-handed wage rate more home page. off Hey Bruins fans. My caller ID here host of the black and gold hockey podcast. This is episode 184 brought to you by show sponsor betonline.ag. It is June Sunday, June 28th, 2020 and we have some decent list of topics that we're going to cover we dig dig dig for news. We are a podcast that did not go on for fifteen minutes when things are not going on we find it. So with that being said, I need to welcome in my co-host Heather Angus and how about what up? Hello Mark. How was your walk with the dogs this week? It was awesome. I was so pumped to see them. It's been a while. I've been staying away from my dad during the coronavirus will so my father moved to Florida and I caught me and I went to his house because it's a little more it's a better environment for the two dogs and they're both Boston Terriers. They both awesome awesome dog. And I I had a blast but it's good to be home from a Hiatus and getting back to work talking the things that we do best and and that's boss Bruins hockey talk. So how was your week off? I'm sure you were busy busy. Well, yeah. I was just Keep On Truckin, but now I got a week and a half of vacation ourselves. So we'll see what Adventure that brings but hopefully get outside lake or something for a little while. Yes, it's good. I just same old same old, you know things don't change much you suck. It's very good to see that things are sad and open up parks and and lakes and so on but hopefully it's it's in time of of safety because it's it's tough out there right now. So with that being said, let's just jump right into one thing that I do want to cover and it's an unfortunate event that happened on Monday last week off. My dear friend Alicia Adams. I've been friends with her for on Facebook for a long time. I I I want to say it's probably going on eight to nine years died Bruins fan. She lives down in Florida. I believe she is from the New England area, but on Monday her house and took a fire and it burned to the ground but thankfully things were okay with the family. Everybody got out safely. It was just property damage and and so on but it doesn't, you know, it doesn't stop cuz the the aftermath and the thoughts and everything like that just continue. So I wanted to wage we donated as a as the black and gold hockey podcast and website team. We donated some money to her to help out. So and I also just want to say that if you want to help wage This this everyone's family that is a little down right now and and they need a little pick-me-up to get back on their feet. I encourage you to please go to the gofundme.com website and do a web search for Addams Family House fire. If you go on do gofundme.com, you'll see a search page click on that and just type in Addams Family House fire and it will come right up. It's a great picture of the her family and they've they've gotten a well over their their goal so far, but it's still you know, they still need some more help because this is this is just it just it's tragic, you know, I understand it happens and two other people in other families or someone but when it comes to somebody that I know I want to do the best that I can to help out. So and we did that by by donating and and so many other people have donated to which is really good. So if you can please donate to the to her cause her family's cars and and you know help, you know for some better days, so Anyway, yeah, so let's just jump right into some some will sad off on some decent topics just good to go for us and we'll we'll we'll move on to other ones probably the ones that I'm not going to really like towards the end. We do have a hashtag ass PNG that's back. We have five questions from there and not the obviously we got other things to talk about. But anyway, let's talk about recent Boston Bruins Awards Heather. What are we have on tap for that since I've been away. Okay, so I will happen like right after we recorded the last hour recorded So the Bruins give out their internal awards every year. So there's four Awards. I believed vs. So Brandon Carla one the Eddie Shore award, which is given by The Galley God you until everyone who they are. Yeah. Yeah. They are the people up at the top of the balcony off. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they like the crazy fans that you see in the site. They're kind of like legendary they've transferred from building the you know what I mean and the craziest of the crazy you see up there in the back rows of the balcony, but they give out this award it goes to the person who demonstrates the most hustle and determination throughout the season. So it's little facts about Carlos Torres he at home it was awesome that season but we talked about him all season like this kid is awesome. He's twenty-three years old. He had four goals of 15 assists. So four goals is a career-high for him. I believe this year off and he I thought this was interesting. He's got his nineteen points, which is good. He's growing he was also a third prong time on ice like 20 minutes and 39 seconds. But at 23 is the 8th most veteran page Berlin on the roster, isn't that crazy? Yeah, you hundred ninety seven games and he's been injured a couple of times and if he wasn't think of like he's a truck. I love him. Hey Brandon Carlo glad to still have you birth? Orleans, okay, and then the Elizabeth du fresne trophy which goes to the outstanding performance for a bruin at home. Can you guess who got that? Everyone's probably I read this. I know you posted this but David pastrnak has been pretty awesome just at home. He had 28 games and forty nine points. Jesus passed us having a year of a year twenty-twenty has not stopped in this kid, right? Anyways Marshawn in his drink back Marshawn one the Thursday before that. So sorry Mom. She you don't get to have you actually leads this year. Where am I? So Patrice Bergeron won the John bucyk award. The chief gives that out to the Bruin night most contributes to like Community off the ice, you know, like in their community and as we know Patrice is a saint and walks around with the Halo whether he wants one or not, you know pops her paddle getting all the hospitals and donating to the NC then wacp and the Multicultural ethnic date Quebec or whatever. It was, but he's pretty dead. And but he also gets to donate another thousand dollars from the Bruins alumni. They give it as part of the award to any charity that he wants. I'd also like to say something about the chief John bucyk. He just completed a six-pack second year in the Bruins organization, six feet two years out of the whole history of the Bruins. That's insane. Yeah, it's crazy and and he's he's currently in charge of the Bruins travel office. Make sure everybody's got to get to ticket and welcome them on the plane. I think he's still travels with the team totally not sure about that, but I know that he's in charge of logistics wage. And the last one that they just got here was the 98.5 Sports Hub like to restart that goes to the three people at home the best records or whatever at home and we played games at home before we stopped that's like Baseline but pasternack. Well, that's 28 goals and 21 assists. You had a plus-11. He had a good year, you know know disappearing pasta this year. That's for sure. You avoid took her a spot number to get was fourteen two and six at home with a 215 and a .926 at home pretty good. Well, we also I mean we're not to that don't love the to caress so and Brad Marchand Ingles and 27 assists which he's Brad Marchand. He's a he's a little arrogant but we love him, right? Okay. So more excitingly David pastrnak on the fan vote for best dressed in the NHL. Yeah, it always crazy suits that's fashion fashion. Yeah a fashion is more important. I mean, I'm just saying like there are certain people who set the standard, but he beat out auston Matthews. Yay. And my slightly just like to say his name and who else was the one of the finalists Jack eichel. This is a few people about whatever so I still say Henrik Lundqvist is just the standard for awesomeness, but that being said that's fun cuz pasta and it's crazy suits and whatever else he's doing he's passed he's doing this thing. I love that dude. Okay, so that was the more we just want to talk about money cuz we like talking about how awesome they are. So they're awesome from how they dress to how they help their communities moving on to hockey hockey Hall of Fame inductions. There was a quite an impressive list and and there was some that weren't impressed. I wasn't impressed thoroughly. I think that some players were left off of recognition, but more notably when it comes down to Bruins content. There was one player that was involved in the inductions. I'm sorry. And the yeah, well he's going to be inducted in November. So and that's from the Boston Bruins Jarome Iginla. So what do we talk about the players that were inducted last week? I don't have list of the other ones besides again, like well, Jarome Iginla, he's a headliner, but also Marian Hossa. He's getting his not also a first time. I think it's important to note that their first time ballot and they both got in. We got a couple of old school, but still around guys. We've got Kevin low and Doug Wilson Kevin low, I he was one of the ones with like yes, cuz he's got a million in Stanley Cups is pretty awesome. Whatever Doug Wilson, he's still around. He's a GM and Kim sepia is going in for Canadian. She's a Canadian women's standout knock out and Ken Holland another name that still very influential in the hockey world. He's going in as like a builder of GM. So a pretty good list overall. Yeah, but um, no one's going to like everything right and like you said, there's a few people and yes, I could right now go on my mogilny rant, but let's talk about Jarome Iginla first, right? So, He played for the Bruins just one season, right? We got a little touch of him. He had he played 78 games with us. He had 30 goals and 31 assists. What say you yeah, I mean great careers one year short short time the a lot of people that when I don't remember who wrote the article and I'm sorry, but it was black and gold hockey.com. I shouldn't should have wrote that down but there was a lot of hate from that because they a lot of folks said that he shouldn't have gotten mentioned as a bruin because of what he did previously to come in the Boston and if nobody knows about that right now what he he agreed to a deal to come to our there was a decent place to have him be traded to Boston and it went awry and he ended up going to Pittsburgh and and birth. Fortunately the Boston Bruins swept Pittsburgh that year and Jerome joined the Boston Bruins The Following season for that for that 30-goal season, but anyway wage, but it's it's it's weird the whole thing of the the the trade tree and so on because you if we look above the Steve dangle trade tree that he did with with the Joe thought and thought there was a deal in place and now we know that it was Matt bartkowski Alexander khokhlachev and somebody else. I wish I wrote this down but that was off the principal trade that they were going to get again love but and then they just backed out something happened. He wanted to go to Pittsburgh, but regardless, I don't know what happened cuz it's obviously he's a pretty loyal. I mean near the end. He played for a thousand Seventeen. So he play with Calgary forever. So, you know rookie year, but can we want to talk about how awesome he is sure international players got six Junior games in 36 Senior Games he dead. As he's got ninety-six, he won the World Junior Gold with Team. He's obviously Canadian if anybody doesn't know that he won the World Cup gold and 97.4 Team Canada. He want Olympic gold in two thousand and two he won World golden 2004. He didn't do so hot in 2006, but they won the gold again. And he's the guy who passed Sidney Crosby in 2010 his goal. It was Jarome Iginla who smashed it a he was drafted 11th overall by Dallas. He played with the Flames like we said forever and a day like thirteen years or something before he started bouncing around. He did a little loud in here. He had eighty-one playoff games yet 37 goals and 31 assists in that and I'm still pissed off about two thousand and four. I still feel Calgary got plugged in the Stanley Cup, excuse my language, but I do hope he was an on the all-rookie team. He was three-time All-Star. He won the Rocket Richard three times the Art Ross. He won the Pearson he won the lady. And one that lady King Clancy, he won the foundation players award. He won the Mark Messier leadership award and this I don't think needs to be like a lot of people haven't been thought about it, but it really is a big deal. He's only the fourth black player to be inducted in some capacity into the Hockey Hall of Fame him and Grant fuhr one of his idols growing up where he grew up with, you know was a huge star off and also Angela James and Lily already in there as Builders and whatever but that is a big deal and Jarome iginla's awesome. But Marian hossa's awesome and I think I mean everybody that got in this year's deserves to be in but like I said, okay Alexander mogilny in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, and and it's no hockey. He changed it and it's not showing the down arrow McGinley thing. He still lives in Boston. His boys kids go to Boston Schools. He's coaching I believe or maybe he's not coaching his kid, but he's always at the rink, so it's dead. That he stayed in the area and so on and who knows maybe something down the line will open up for a position with the Boston Bruins being so close to town. So often the thing is is really sucks is that he didn't get that Stanley Cup, you know, and and I think that that's something that well I know for a fact that every player wants wants the ultimate goal, but you know, it's just too bad that a play it with his accolades and all all that he's done for the game couldn't get the Ultimate Prize. But but I mean this is probably second boss asked is is to be noticed and for his accomplishments and hockey on and off the ice with the with the the Hall of Fame induction and and you know, it's really good that that they do something like this and I'm not I'm not completely bought into the whole committee with Lanny McDonald heading the whole thing and so on but, you know, there's a reason there's nothing phone number. Madness I always say but you know, I don't think Ron Wilson, I think that's his name. Did he even win us didn't even win a Stanley Cup am not write down. No one loaded, but He has but Doug Wilson Doug Doug. Sorry I think is more on defense on his defensive thing is more like games played and whatever bowl like he was like again, he was one I was like hmmm, but then you can argue has been impactful but he's going in as a player and not as a GM. So it's like weird to me but the Hockey Hall of Fame standards. We have no idea what the criteria actually is, right? That's why they're like people are mad certain people get in or don't get in or whatever. Like cattle out like yeah again numbers wise but he's got six Stanley Cups, you know what I mean? It's like like I'm glad Jarome Iginla got in in as far as ballot because his numbers he deserves it but also because everyone's oh but they didn't have a Stanley Cup, right like whatever sometimes you don't have to have the Stanley Cup and still have been one of the most impactful players on the sport in your generation are are or whatever and like you said and he's not he's you know, he just retired a couple of years ago. He might go on and be a coach or Geo whatever people build second careers, right? He is pretty awesome. And I'm glad Mary and I got in on the first round to not because he like he had numbers whatever six-time All-Star and all of that. He played in the lot over 1,300 games, but because I think he was very impactful in international. He like he represented Slovakia like fourteen times or something like crazy like that like so for me, I think if it is truly going to be an international and not just revert to its in NHL Hall of Fame. And even though it's not let's pretend it's not it's important. I think people like post and again like get in first ballad not the guys that wait around twenty years to get it because like I said, I mean Kevin Lowe 1000 dynasty of teams and things, you know with the ranges like when you think about waiting I always bring this up. It's like rogie Vachon a form of goaltender long time ago, but I mean the guy retired in the early eighties and he I think it was eight 3 and then he didn't get he had three Stanley Cups and just recently got it in within like the past four or five years. So just crazy how everything is voted on and you know categorized but yeah, well Hall of fame's are weird anyways, because if you let everybody else who might be deserving then it's not special anymore if everybody gets in right? Yeah, but you also have to have flexible like what you you know, I don't know. It's just some years more than others birth. This year I'm not there's no one I can make an argument against either, you know what I mean, but there are a lot of players and I know you can only let so many people in and I have to trust that. I mean, there are people who care truly about hockey and are trying to pick the best six people or five people whatever they end up cuz you don't you don't think there's a limit but I wish we could but yeah, that would be a fun thing to do, you know, like if news is still slow one of these days like who are the four people that you most think should be in the Hall of Fame by are not a bad idea. Not a bad idea. All right. Well anyway is Hall of Fame a Jarome Iginla who I think is awesome. I also was thinking there are times when like Like when Marian Hossa I was looking at as like they were a couple of years. How did when the Thrasher's should have been a good team. They had a lot of good people on their team and they just were still a shitshow. How is that possible right? 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I believe is to get Tori crew locked up long-term this offseason whenever that is air quotes, but Joe wrote an article about if if if if true gets what he wants in money and that might leave somebody out, which I call a cap casualty another are quote and he mentioned to Jacob. Could be that could be that guy. So let me just pull up the article that he has right. Now. This was done on June 24th. And the title Jake debrusk will get paid this offseason and it likely won't be with the Bruins and I did not like that at all. But anyway, he writes after 8 a.m. Postseason after a bit of a Down regular season might slide to brush back into the 4.5 million range per season, but it's expected. He'll be able to command something in that neighborhood after averaging twenty goals per season in the NHL. That's a little bit of high number than I thought. But anyway, he says these these days to process is going to command a big jump in salary to the four point five five point five million range annual value. And he'll he still hasn't quite developed into a consistent productive top six offensive threat on the second line. If there's if there was a time to deal a way to browse in the midst of a salary cap constraints. This would be the time to do it while getting back pretty close to a maximum value for a young still developing player. So that that number we all most Bruins fans know that the culture in Boston is to keep players here keep them happy but to do that and stay competitive as a group of players need to understand that they need some cap flexibility to make improvements when needed in the season, whether it be before month or the beginning of the Season or right before the trade deadline that you need that kind of flexibility to come back if you're going to get a high-profile player a sniper whatever you have to have the birth. The the salary cap, I'm going to say it again flexibility, but I don't see Jake getting that number. I don't I don't know how I feel about this whole this whole topic because the fact is that pasta and that took a took a paycut and he could have gotten a lot more Bergeron and and and so on March and I know this it's different times and everything like that. I think Jake is going to stay but I don't think he's going to get that much. I am still on board with this 18 and ab are quote about 18 million dollars in cap space after they signed jaroslav halak so I could see crew getting the six six point five seven million dollar range beayork getting up too lazy to the Brass getting three possibly four in that range. That's you can still work without those constraints underage. In million, so I think a deal will get done. I don't think we should give up on this kid. He's young. He can play the game. He plays a good girl in style. I know his head in consistencies and so on but for me, I think what happens next is you sign him to a a bridge deal two year three year deal on his first real NHL contract coming off of his entry level deal and then go from there. If you don't if you don't like what you see in that short time frame of that bridge deal then move on a still young enough to go. Oh he can get some some kind of value and so on so, I don't know. I just I think it's weird that everything's being brought up now when we don't know exactly what the Caps going to look like and and how this flat cap is going to pan out for the season next season, or maybe even this season after that. So what are your thoughts on this month? Shenanigan. Well one I take Joe Haggerty at this point with a little bit of grain of salt because you know, there's not a lot to write about if you're a hockey writer right now and it everyone's been talking about obviously we're tight on cap space. I don't think Jake debrusk is going anywhere. I don't think Jake debrusk thinks that he should get paid five million dollars, even if they compared him to Travis konecny, but the thing with him is that he makes a more direct impact on his team. That's why he gets paid a little more where debrusk is developing in a system where there's a whole lot of well-played veteran players and whatever else it bothers me. Jake debrusk is 22 years old. He's not everybody is Sidney Crosby or Tyler Seguin or whoever that by the time they're twenty have already made their money. He's a good player. He had a rough season. Yes, he have to his points or whatever but he's twenty-two if you give him like we were talked about what we think free agents might get butt off like this kid is going to earn some money cuz he has had a lot of experience up, you know, he didn't really he wasn't AHL kid, he came up and it's been struggling his way along a lot. He's getting like three three five, maybe like a 3-year bridgedale again. We've talked about how that way. Everybody can get through whatever the hell the salary caps going to be in a couple of years, like even right now, they're trying to take care of the CBA and everything else and just get it all done with negotiate. How do we fix going forward because we all need to be in this together now Jake debrusk, I think. I think yes on one hand you can look and say there's a lot of other players that can do that like they saying like Nik Richie this and that. Well, I've seen Nick Richie and Nick Ritchie is Young. He's again, I'm not going on him. He's only like 23 or something to but I would rather figure out how to not have that million dollar contract or whatever it is and give that to depressed because he's a kid. I think that loves being a bruin I think his teammates like him, you know what I mean? He's like there quirky little brother, you know? Yeah. He's the class clown right and He's I guess it's weird to say but like his dad was an NHL player and stuff. Right? I don't think Boston's a team. He would have settled on without some influence from Smart hockey Minds around him thinking this is a good place for him his style, you know, like what they see us coaching or whatever. So I do feel dabros cousin and one of his the quote in that article was that I mostly try to stay out of it cuz he was just like how things change and negotiation but mostly try to stay out of it and you know, he's dialing getting ready for training camp in the season and I think that's a good attitude to take because I I mean Jake debrusk a stand know Jake debrusk Thursday, we're near like, oh cost might negotiating. Yeah, this is going to happen. But I agree with you. I think give him a good bridgedale. He he's earned three. If you're going to give your to you have to give depressed 3 just cuz he's got the experience life and he's only been getting paid $850,000 plus, you know, we haven't been paying him a lot of money to do more work than some people making more than him and not just me. I think Hagrid he needs something to write about I think wage. Ellen's freaking out like obviously, you know every day I wake up and I'm like to tour groups do they released our contract because they told us last year that the touring crew deal was all set and they would just wait until release it be at the end of season. Oh, no, it's not happening. I still think we can keep it all if we really want to for the 18 mil cuz we can figure out how to get rid of a little more here and there but no I think Nebraska stay home. I don't think he's going I think it's more of an alarmist kind of thing. It obviously makes sense because you can kind of plug something in there, but I don't again there's a reason that dabros and the one from his draft class that everyone pitches about Is up there and his Compadres are not and that alone gives him free Mill and that's enough to say cuz like you said he's been in a culture. He's 22, but his whole career has been around guys. I don't getting paid their value to have something more valuable a solid team in the potential to win the cup which like you said is the dream like that's the goal. Right? Nobody your goal isn't yeah, you want to make money but little boys don't feel like I can't wait to make lots of money. They're like, oh my God, I can't wait, you know or whatever and I'm sure a little girls dream of it too, but they're just not allowed to win it yet. Yeah, and before we move on to the next topic if I do want to say when you mentioned Torey Krug, it was a rumor last week that he signed a three-year deal and come to find out that that was total hogwash, whoever whoever put that out there. I deleted that tweet, but I'm dealing with on Facebook people calling me a liar because the fact is that they said that they they saw something that he signed and I was like God Oh, no. No, I am no Insider and I'm nowhere near as you know close to the Bruins team as anybody else. But I pay attention quite a bit and Torey Krug. We did not sign. So I'm sorry then if Torey Krug signed there would be a press conference from Don Sweeney. Yeah, you know, like that's what I'm waiting for personally. Like I'm not really unless Torey Krug on his Twitter is like hey guys, I sign off blah blah blah blah blah happy to be a bruin or Don Sweeney or Cam Nealy standing out there. It would be Donnie Sweeney, but maybe he's preoccupied. I don't know, you know, they're trying to restart the league and everything, but we would know like if she would be no secret they'll still happening because signing crew will come everyone down to about what to do about free agency. Cuz right now is the time we all lose our mind about free agency, but we have right now, we're all losing our minds trying to get hockey back. So I'm just trying to re-sign. Yeah, that's not funny. Whoever is putting out false rumors. Yeah. I know it's it's crazy because it's that it made it once people see that they automatically go off. They shoot from the him. It's like oh my God, they finally did it. He's going to be a bruin for a short time. But no, I think that you know in when they said three years now, we remember story crew doing the one year one year one year deals to work with the team and their constraints at the time but I believe Tori crew is is a fantastic defense when you know that I'm pumping gas fires. It's you know, but I don't see him doing a short-term at this particular time in his life. I could see this lady her on when he's more towards 35 and so on short-term deals, but this is something you want to lock up for a five or six or maybe even a seven knows but, you know to stay in Boston, it's just it's crazy. It's crazy talk to to go out there and do that and there was another there was another website person that I am not going to even log Say what website they came from because I can't stand them at all. But one of the people came out and said that Torey Krug signed he has a he has official word that song it, you know broke to him and that was total bullshit. And that was actually dated back to November 2019. This this person said that so it's just complete bullshit when people just throw stuff out there to get get their Twitter collects get some Twitter points and maybe some eyes on four or five articles that they post a year off. This is Tori gross contract to get paid because he one and two-year deal that and then he got a you know, whatever he got his five and now he's twenty-nine years old and he's getting at least a six year deal to ensure that the last giant chunk of his career is locked down, you know, whatever thing he said that that seems ridiculous He's Not Gon no, Callback like he's the one player they have to give the money to why would he decide like even if he's going to take less money? He's not going to take a less term deal know like he might not get 75. Okay, how about 7 for six or seven five or six or whatever, you know, he's going to get at least seven that's going to be the number that somewhere around 7 a little more than that, even though he's worth eight or nine. He is not going to ask you turn off like he would rather be a bruin if that's true, but he has to decide long-term a little bit right? He's got a daughter and family has to think about too like before the kids start school. You gotta know where you're going to be playing for the money. Yeah. I want to start investing and all that but I think that will all work out. But yeah, I don't think the only way he would sign a short-term deal is only cuz of this cap nightmare. No one knows what's going to happen League off for the next couple of years, but I still think that's ridiculous. The one person who's getting not a bridge deal is Tory group cuz there's nowhere to bridge he's twenty-nine years old and he's at the Peak Performance of his career. You know what I mean? Whatever dead. So so moving on to the next topic, which is in the ridiculous was the key word here Jack eichel trade rumors continued. This is maddening to make sure absolutely maddening now. Listen I get I do get where everybody's coming from. He is an Elite Talent. The guy can put up points. There is no doubt about that. People are just use that narrative and Target. One thing in his point production is it there's other avenues you have to discuss about this number one. This is something that the Bruins do not allow in their culture. You do not speak to the media like that that anything that you have if you're not happy you talk to your general manager the revolving door of Buffalo general managers that are going on right now in that shitshow that's going on up. There is you don't do that to the media do it when you leave do it when you get traded whatever but don't do that because it makes you look like a dick in front of a team. And I'm sorry. This is I get the point production narrative. I just really really do but it's it's the it's the the inner workings of that locker room off and on the ice and so on when you look at character, I don't see that happening. I don't see character in Jack eichel coming to Boston. Not only that dead. It says ten million dollar cap hit that it does not make sense to work, especially when it's flat and it could be flat for the next couple of Seasons. I just don't see it happen. I don't want to give up assets for somebody who will probably be like Oh, I'm in Boston. I'm in my home state again. I'm so happy and then all of a sudden if the Bruins don't like make the playoffs for a year and he started whining and bitching. I'm not for that. I'm not for giving up all these young assets that Buffalo is going to want for this player. There's no way I'm sorry. I can't do it and off and I've gotten trashed on Twitter for saying it's not a good deal cancer in the locker room shouldn't happen. And you know so many people are saying don't worry about what he does on and off the ice worry about the point production that you can possibly do in a Bruins uniform and and where you can go from there, but there's so many other things you have to think about when you talk about a deal like this it juice. It just it baffles me. It really does. Okay, so one I think the rumors are batshit crazy and for me, it's the ten million dollar contract, but I would like to say in Jack eichel's defense dead. He's a new generation of player. He is not the generation. I'm sorry, but Buffalo is a fucking shit show excuse my language, but they are in someone maybe it's not he's a cancer of the locker room. Maybe he's fucking sick and tired and he's standing up for his team and the fans of this team. Maybe it's that maybe he's not asking to be out of there. He signed it he knew it was a shitshow when he signed right beside get people around him, excuse my language, but now that there are vets more veteran players coming in like when Jeff Skinner came in and stuff. I mean again everyone expects these young kids to just know how to lead teams into whatever he's supposed to be the same behavior of the Buffalo Sabres. So maybe it's not he's being like an overpaid jerk. Maybe it's that he's like enough is enough doing this fanbase in the city deserve more than this. They have one Pham. That is making two fanbases miserable. Although my bills are families were a little happier now, but until like two seasons ago, we were not you know what I mean? Like maybe that's it. Maybe Jack I go because he is in the generation that does have Twitter and a microphone and a mouth maybe that gets your attention when your star players like, you know, I'm sick of it, you know, maybe it's not saying you sick of being a sabre or whatever, you know, like you don't sign a long-term deal in a city that's miserable and you don't like or care about the environment especially like I mean Buffalo is a working-class town. It's not Vegas since it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. Some of the other cities have so much to say in defense of Jack eichel. Maybe that's the situation. I don't know because if it's as bad as we can see I can't imagine what it's really like that. Do. You know what I mean? What deal on both counts by all accounts I go the team they love the coach and they let you know what I mean or whatever just they like that new environment, but it's like now this team is trying to become a teen and their birth. Running into management acting up the process like, you know what I mean? And like you said, it's been a revolving door. How do you get anything solid if it's always revolving you always changing the people who are making the decisions you get all the players and the coaches can do is show up and play and you know, try to coach your team, but that can't be a comfortable place to place. So I'm just saying I don't know what to be true. You could be being a dick or he could just be saying you know what? Hey, I'm Jack it'd be like a you know, whatever like had wouldn't Tom Brady has stood up and said like what is this should like he's you know, like you have a voice a voice that all the fans and not just walk, you know damn from Buffalo whatever I can go off on a tangent but like, okay, so oh there's a crazy fan. Well now you're talking about a league Superstar your Superstar saying enough is enough, but that's just that's just me. So maybe it's just he is from forty, you know, like a 40-minute ride down 495 from us. Maybe it's cuz he's a whatever but I do think that you want these kids to lead this Jeff. Patients got to figure out how to lead in the world of Twitter and face any or whatever like no longer do they throw punches with their GM's and managers when they get into fights. They don't do that anymore. What they do is when they have everyone's attention, they simply say cuz if you watch him in his rant, it's not like he's like, I've certainly heard NBA star's trash their teams more openly just in a nonchalant way like he more I think is just frustrated as long as a young man does not quite know how to maintain the composure of the face of the team and be as mad as everyone else says or about the team that just me but the back cracked crazy of the whole thing is we cannot afford we juice out here and I will hold discussion about 40 Krug and Jake debrusk and we didn't even get into glitches Andrews Bjork and you can go on we have 18 mil that might be tight enough to keep all the boys if we want. We cannot afford Jack eichel. He's awesome. I mean sure he probably come in and fit in the culture you grew up in the culture of this. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's just me. So for me, it's just I'm glad to see that internal especially if you want to get moved. It just doesn't send a good message to another team that it wants to take you on and it has availability to take that cap space on. I don't know how long as a player. You have a built-in resume what you do on and off the ice is going to be scrutinized and for me, that's just not that's not a good deal. And that's just my opinion. I'm not saying it's wrong but there's no right or wrong answer. I'm not saying your opinions wrong, but I also think some of these Superstars like, yes, they have their resume, but some of their resumes would be so much more brilliant if they weren't because of the way we do offer draft now, Aren't stuck on abyss of teams of shittiness. You know what I mean? Like first Taylor Hall had it in Edmonton and it was like this kid is literally isolated and they did nothing to help that situation and then eventually they got McDavid and even he had a few they used car note David but his numbers are like that because he's Connor McDavid if he was like a jack eichel. 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And um, but also it they're good at what they do and trying to help people reach their weight-loss goals. All right. So here we go. Here we go. We go. All right. Here's the thing the NHL on Friday night at 8 p.m. Held the NHL 2020 NHL draft lottery now very interesting the way that everything is going on with coronavirus oil and blah blah blah and the season not not anything appropriately and the 2014 playoff that all plays huge Parts in this number one is the faithful listeners. Listen to us a rambling rant all every week. They know that I am not a fan of having the draft done before the playoffs. I just don't get it. Then me the playoffs us off. To be that time to figure out the latter part of the rankings for your draft. So with everything that went on the the the the the lottery went down and it immediately started. I was just like wait a minute the nineteen was not mentioned because of something this some kind of shift that went on home. So, I mean, there's so many percentage of every team that gets that's involved. Now one thing that got me all worked up was at the end so, I don't know exactly it was the number one pick. So the number one pick for possibly Alexa LaFreniere is to be determined off and it's going to be determined by a team that's in the play in session. So we have Several teams that have an opportunity to get of number one pick in the playoffs. I don't get it. I'm dumbfounded. Maybe I'm not very smart person has is I get it but you know what? This does not make sense to me at all. You had you had it? Why why? All right so long you could have a team like Pittsburgh Penguins, and they I think they're matched up against Montreal Canadiens. So like one of those two teams could get the first round pick, but they were involved in the playoffs. I I that's what I don't get is like first round picks selections are not teams that are involved in the playoffs. So what you're doing is you're compromising the Integrity of the truck in game. I don't get that. I I don't get it. Hello. Is there anything that you could say to possibly Get me on the straight and narrow and figure out what is going on with this league and what they're trying to do. I know what to say. There's a speed bump and what's going on with covid-19 and everything that's in there rushing off. I still think they could have done this in the fall after everything but regardless it's like what the fuck is going on. I wish I could talk you off that ledge, but I'm kind of standing there not looking down cuz I'm afraid of heights but going first of all, why do we need to like, okay, we're in a draft lottery that has two phases of the draft lottery Has Two Faces. I don't think you know cuz they expanded the draft lottery. It's usually five teams or whatever. So they expanded the draft lottery and they expanded the playoffs and I think if they expand the playoffs the draft lottery should only consisted of the 16s that didn't make the playoffs. Just saying cuz everyone else now has a chance to potentially win the Stanley Cup and it's like the stupid like just when I thought they were doing the right things. Is this stupid convoluted bucket know like how can someone who literally has a chance like that's this is the thing of why they didn't call them play off their play in because they have to satisfy contractually off trades that happened things like, you know Hall going to Arizona shit like that J team conditional fix all these conditional things that have all these stupid legal rules, which are going to be easier to make a strong draft a lot out. But the thing that pisses me off the most is I don't think I don't care if you lose the play and you shouldn't be in the draft lateral. And you have that that's the number one stupid thing. So now with someone who actually gets to have three more their team on T, maybe sell more t-shirts, whatever obviously you can't sell tickets or whatever kind of thing but like attention on them. Or going to also get the number one pick the fact that you're one of the 2014 shows you do not need to be get in the running for the number one pick your mediocre enough and it wouldn't piss me off so bad, but the way is going the way they pick the teams. They're like some of those people wouldn't have made the playoffs. Anyways, you know what? I mean? Some of them might have still had like point-wise but most of those teams would have made the playoffs. Anyways, if it was a normal 16 schedule so long, why are you letting them play either let them be in one or the other because Detroit is still fucked in can't be more than fourth. I think they took a pinch flap on this one second phase in which after we see who was still sucky enough to not play in the actual playoffs, right? They get the number one pick or whatever. They set the first three picks them then they have set everything else according to you know, whatever like ottawa's two first-round whatever but like they said everything else two points during the season. So that means someone whom I should be picking 16th. This year is going to maybe pick number one that is ridiculous. So stupid. I just made it more complicated job. I needed to be you know what I mean? Like the compromise should have been you keep the five teams or maybe the 16s that didn't make the playoffs. Let them do the top six draft picks as wage should or Then give the teams that didn't make the playoffs those 8 people the next eight seeds fucking draft them by themselves into those seeds then put everybody else who doesn't totally suck. Sorry. I just think it's stupid like so now you're telling me I'd also like to see how it lines up. If you just did it the old way they used to do it. Like they should like the reverse order like your the suckiest Detroit. So you get the number one pet cuz you deserve it for being the suckiest and that's the other thing NHL the Detroit Red Wings original sex quote unquote. You know what I mean? One of your most storied franchise got 39 points this season 39 points through 70 games 39 points in the time I said that there is a roller hockey league somewhere else. Just scored thirty nine points. I'm just they want thirty nine games that time you can't watch a tree fall off a cliff like Buffalo going off a cliff as one shitshow to handle again. Like we said, they're rabid fans around they're super hockey just Like bands but the Detroit Red Wings cannot struggle and you just set them up to continue to struggle by not letting them get them not saying they would have got the number one pick. I just think it's asinine that off a team in these plans is the number one packet stupid high. So listen to this I pulled up this tweet, right and it's and it's a three-part tweet that I took a screenshot wage. And this is a it's a guy is named Dwayne and that's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to say his handle because he's not worth it. But this is just like you could still he's not a hockey fan. So anyway, he says in the first one, how can the NHL continue to be the joke of North American Sports? Oh, I know. Let's have a shitshow of a draft watery that makes no sense way to drop the ball when no other sports have anything going on at the current moment in big capital letters epic fail the second tweet. He sends which was 6 minutes later. #NHL how embarrassed that you guys today complete shitshow last night. You will never be taken serious as a North American sport the third one, which is obviously the next day the NHL can't get it right. There's a reason NASCAR is more popular than them shame on the NHL and what the the other embarrassment last night with the lottery so definitely not a t hockey fan there. I can't see that being a huge fan at all. I'm frustrated but I'm not frustrated to take my favorite sport and say it's the it's the absolute worst in North America. Sorry pal. I also had written down cuz I had a nap or whatever and has been Nation. She had written like, you know a summary whatever draft law to like her article and one of the things that image that according to Elliott Friedman and Bob McKenzie, if the qualifying round doesn't happen, then the 18s in the lotto will be that's right. Now. I don't know if they truly did confirm that or not but I don't see why SB Nation would have them saying they confirmed it. I mean that's an obvious thing but there is actually a mechanism in case the play Ends don't happen in case like covid-19 just go straight to the you know what I mean. I just I guess going to take the four top teams and let them play it out in a short and Stanley Cup. I don't know. Let's say the 18 is going to be Montreal Chicago, Arizona, Minnesota Winnipeg Rangers, Florida foundas, at least half of them don't deserve to be the number one pick. Absolutely. Like how is that possible? So if there isn't they automatically get to be in for that spot, you're not going to suck. You to me that the Columbus Blue Jackets eat a higher pick than the Detroit Red Wings. I'm just saying and then the senators get like to pick sand first round cuz that's the whole thing is is this first round that's already got everyone losing their jobs because it's stupid then the second stage. So you got the 17s. That didn't make the playoffs, right? We already did that Draft Lottery Plus one team that is in the planes, right? We don't know who it is. TV. Once they don't make it out, we figure out who gets that spot. Right? One of them will get that spot because of Friday. It's stupid with like 12% They each have an equal chance of getting it or something stupid like that off. Once they have the top three picks then they're going to do everyone else in order a point percentage, right? So in other words, like we said Detroit's block their number for no matter what because they can't move up cuz you can be you know, whatever so they're they're stuck where they that's nice. That's nice for Detroit. But if they can't be completed. There's this mechanism that says these are the eight teams that get to buy for the spot. Someone thought up this crazy convoluted plan because that's how if they do that off then write billing else can and then there's all these crazy things like right now only the seven teams like bottom 17s can do any trades. Everyone else has got to wait. And we got all these stupid trades from February that have to be satisfied in holy crap. What is going on? I'm sorry. I can't so I can't wait to see how stupid it is come phase two of this draft, see if they even play in but you're not going to argue to me that the Columbus Blue Jackets should be buying for the number one spot of drafting. I totally agree with that. That's just that's crazy. I did see those numbers off. By the way. There was a tweet that came out that had all the you know, if if things don't work out the way they're supposed to be then those certain teams will be involved in that in that certain mechanisms talking about but you want to take a break sure if you want. We'll see let's take a quick break. We're going to hear from the angry. I know I know I know how long we're gonna take a quick break. We're going to hear from the great Folks at the store next door. It's a Yarmouth Nova Scotia based company and we at the black and gold hockey podcast wage. I can go hockey.com. We purchased four items from them this past week when I was on vacation with the doggies. 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So as of right now There Were Ten teams, as I said, there was Los Angeles Las Vegas Minneapolis Chicago, Dallas Pittsburgh, Columbus Vancouver Edmonton in Toronto. Now off the teams that are gone off that list now for the Hub cities are Minneapolis Dallas Columbus Pittsburg, and now which came out not too long ago Vancouver off. So the the team that the areas that are still involved are Vegas La Edmonton Toronto and Chicago. Honestly thought I'd see Chicago happening. I don't see La happening possibly see Edmonton happening. But as of right now are to what do you think of the are too I'm going to log Vegas and Toronto thoughts on that. I think that we should just stop pretending it's not going to be Vegas and Toronto. That's what I think. I think that that's probably been what the issue was the whole time. You got Vegas for the gambling odds, and also obviously just capacity like they can just kind of quarantine off a block and let it be the NHL or whatever Los Angeles to be out cuz California's numbers are spiking for covid-19 going to want to walk into that Chicago we talked before I thought wouldn't be a spot. Anyways, just cuz Chicago is like seven million people or whatever four million people just crammed into a big space but not really when it comes to urban sprawl. It's one of the biggest cities in the country in America. And yeah, so also I just think stop pretending that it's not going in Toronto it does it make sense. Yes. She gets you betting and all your thing. That being said, I think if I get to the be quarantined and whatever that means in Vegas club And then on the other teams and I'm quarantined and Edmonton. I'm going to be pissed. I wasn't at least in Toronto for like things that maybe potential Recreation and whatever. I'm just saying Edmonton's lovely but God there's things to do but I just mean like it's not as many things to do as you would in a bigger Metropolitan kind of setting, you know, like I don't know like I'm not trying to disrespect it. Which and it's lovely Alberta Canada. I love you guys like yeah. I just I don't know. I just it's a hard one, but I think that's where we're going to settle. The only thing with Vegas is I don't know how they're going to change the practice facility like Where Toronto there's lots of drinks all around that you can figure out how to transport. You know what I mean? I don't know if Vegas has that where Edmonton would be in Vegas has a ring inside their Arena and I get that but we're talking about twenty four teams. You're going to probably need a little bit of yard. I mean, yeah, even though the places they're playing are going to be these two places. There's obviously going to probably be other facilities that have been designated for the NHL for sure sure. No, absolutely. I mean and everything in between you're going to have to have a little more space but that just need I think we're still pretending it's not going to be Vegas in Toronto and can we just announced that so I can move on and not worry about that just like Seattle's getting closer to a nickname great, maybe cuz they would have announced it out the draft but then the drafts on a stupid thank God they didn't do it. Well, they at least in the regular draft at least Seattle got a a new name for their Arena. Yeah. I know that came. I'm glad that chugging along. I'm just saying these are the things Jim. Now that I would be worrying about okay, like regular draft and then they like just like Vegas did they're going to know they're not it's never going to happen. None of those hockey stuff is ever going to happen. They're just going to drive me nuts. Now one thing one thing that concerns me about these Hub cities and and and getting crossed off the list as we go along and getting closer to July 10th. The training camps, which we're off subject it to be a a time frame is is is a Twitter conversation. I had with a friend Ridge Reggie Shuffle I Schofield Schofield whatever and he actually mentioned something very interesting that the health officials in Vancouver potentially did not like what I'm sorry. Let me word that found the NHL didn't like what the Vancouver or BC officials Had to say to the NHL if a few things spikes as a hub City and I he seems to believe that the NHL was like, you know, what forget it was going to cross you off the list and just move on because you know, there's a that's a little concern for me if the health officials are like listen, what are we going to do? If there's an outbreak, you know, I just going to move a Hub City to another place at those Logistics take way too much time, but it's it makes me kind of I don't know what it is, but it's almost like the NHL needs to pay more attention and be more cautious about what's going on because if a Hub City that was like really pushing forward a setting standards for health and safety and wage not driving then would it makes you think it's going to work anywhere else? I think the thing though is that partly and that's what I was reading is that they're very very stringent in BC and I'm Not Dead they're not in other provinces, but almost like not too certain. I mean the NHL is only one organization. I mean, you can't also reach kind of in reachable goals, you know what I mean, either for like standing, you know what I mean? Cuz it off by all accounts. They're using the NHL it does have health officials that are helping them decide what to do the it's hard to say because they still officially haven't signed the come back on track. Yeah. I mean like agreement or whatever training camp start on the 10th, but we don't really know if that means they want them to start moving towards the Hub cities yet. It's obviously assuming it's probably just in their own facilities training camps for at least a week or two, you know what I mean? Like that part hasn't been worked out not just as they don't know where it is, but because I think it is the will like we talked about the turtle steps make sure that cuz once you start you can't let the fucking snakes back in the can you know, like right figure out how maybe they'd stop speaking out but you can squish it back down and I know we're going to talk about that job. Or whatever but some interesting things about that about them what quarantined exactly May mean, but again, none of it has hashed out but I do think though as an organization the NHC only do so much and they also have needs that they have to have not. Do you know what I mean? And if Vegas says hey, you know, as long as you keep everyone here, we don't mind you have these five hundred people or whatever walking around. And you can meet the basic criteria, but we don't I don't know that they're not asking above and beyond what any other reasonable request is for a situation like that at either so the NHL package over like if they can't afford to do some like it said one city says if you test a player's every three days or whatever you test them daily the first two weeks that they're in the hubs and then a test them every third day why they're in the playoffs, right? Cuz after two weeks, you'll pretty much know if anyone's going to come out with a no break. That might be something that is more affordable than we don't know Vancouver isn't saying you have to test every day the whole time whatever, you know what I mean? So those are the factors. I think we just don't know about as like business standpoint when you're in a group you mean they just lost a billion dollars in Revenue like like historic with and they already paid their players. It's not like they're even though yes Collective like they've got billions of ridiculous dollars to play with let's face it as the NHL the owners aren't going to all of a sudden be like, all right, I'll cough up an extra five hundred million dollars, even though some of them could I'm looking at you Jeremy Davison. Yeah. And another thing that is frustrating hockey fans in general is his the locations obviously. I know we talked about this a while back wage, you know, if it is coming down to a Vegas and Toronto there are fans saying that of course, you're going to put it in Toronto because the legal office is their job Or the or some of their offices are there the legal office is technically in New York. But the narrative is of course, you're going to have it in Toronto because Toronto is involved in a 2014 off and you know, that's that's favoritism blah blah blah, but when I'm hearing is and maybe people can clarify that you can add me at black and gold 277 and let me know if I'm wrong. But the West Coast teams are going to be would go to the east so they would go in Toronto while a team like the Bruins would go to Las Vegas. That's what I'm hearing. So there's no home ICE Advantage, even though you know what I mean, there's not in reality. It's not there but you know, cuz they're going to do a mismatch home, you know, I can't even talk about they're doing their best to make sure you're not familiar with so like the east teams aren't playing in the East facilities because they are all more familiar with those whether you're the home team or you're a visiting team obviously dead. The Bruins are going to be more familiar with Madison Square Garden, then they're going to be the Staple Center in L A or whatever, you know sure so that's the that's what they've said the whole time that they're going to try to vice versa. Ultimately. They've got to put them in one place. If you're going to play for a cop, you know what I mean? So I would think that there's only like in my head there's going to be two Hub cities for the planes in the first round and then everyone's getting corner of Vegas does the NHL can control moving the players specifically from the hotels on two jetted airplanes that they rented and have been hosed down directly to the airport and picked up directly on the other side to where other teams have already cleared any medical whatever issues that might be happening. I just I thought I don't know that makes sense. Also, that's weird thing is the boys didn't get off this weekend with the award shows this year. They may even do the award shows in September when the Stanley Cup gets awarded or whatever or October whenever it happens again. We don't know the actual timeline but wage. That just my thought in the Toronto with illegal opposite thing. I do think that's true. But I do think in some way they have to satisfy the Canadian fan base and have one of the Cities if possible be in Canada. I'm sick of the home field advantage thing because one is there's nowhere to wait for they they've all played in these facilities. Everyone has played there like it's not like they don't know and no one is talking about totally neutral sites like some random place in Nova Scotia ago, or you know in the middle of Colorado somewhere not near you know what I mean? I just know I get it and and dovetail on that we have to talk about something that I found very interesting and that's NHL Chief legal officer Bill Daley who serves under League commissioner Gary Bettman from The Burbs teams, which may not be operating in quarantine bubbles. That is a little bit of a concern for me when you're trying to keep everybody safe moving forward but in an article on Sportsnet. CA on June 26th 2020 Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly confirmed Thursday that the league and the nhlpa will not consider are not considering important team quarantine bubbles for those mandatory sessions instead players are being instructed to stay home. When not at the rink with the hope that frequent testing and health protocols will prevent any outbreak before hopefully games resume into Hub cities in Late. July Bruins. Defenseman. Matt grzelcyk had this to say in the Sports Net on a little it's definitely eye-opening to hear but at the same time looking back going into it you certainly expect that to pop up Grizzly also said you'll see more and more cases popping up across the league and that has to be expected as well. But at the same time it's a little nerve-wracking. So I totally agree on that with what Mister Matt grzelcyk said, so, I don't know. I just don't see any easy path to get this done as much as I want to get it done cuz I'm a hockey back. I mean, it's it's my inner child. That's just like it's almost like Christmas and I wanted to return but I'm also like every day that we progressively moving forward page talks and in our weekly podcast. I'm getting just a little more concerned about the numbers and how everything's spiking up again second wave talk. It's just I mean, it's just it's maddening. I just wanted to happen. I want Corona field to be over. I'm tired of it. I want to go back to regular life. And so it's just it's just crazy. My thing I think it's interesting that they're not quarantining them and even if like in Bill Daley was saying it's like even when they're in the hub cities, they're not going to quarantine like it seems like before they were going to quarantine each team separately from all the other teams, but that does kind of seem a little crazy like to be able to control that, you know, they are grown adults, you know, but it sounds like more they're going to quarantine them in Vegas together. So that's kind of cool to me because in case you maybe make a choice as you are family or whatever that you can't you choose not to quarantine if that's allowed to gather in the city and maybe you just stay home and sometimes you know, when your husband's a professional athlete there on the road kind of situation sucks cuz it'll be like whatever at a time but that allows them. I think I think I think it'll leave a lot of anxiety amongst players because they'll be able to be with their friends and their support net off. So I can a little more normalcy for going about your business in a weird-ass world where you put twenty four teams in two cities and make them whatever that I like Jason's birthday cuz there's been eleven players that have tested positive. We know five of them were on Tampa Bay cuz they had closed their facilities. I jokingly said if Tampa Bay and who was it if Tampa Bay and Montreal can't be in can I vote Buffalo n or something like that might have been a Canadian but we know one of our players did we know a Pittsburgh player at least as so there's been eleven players, but that's out of 200 players. So so far those numbers are pretty good that only eleven players and all of them seem to have been asymptomatic. You know what I mean, which more research is showing is probably not the most like you're probably not going to pass it on that way obviously in sports and especially something like hockey which if anyone's ever been in the hockey room and if you listening to walk around, it's the most disgusting like bacteria Galore right as long as we keep the Cove it. That's the most important thing. We just don't need the Cove it in we can have all the other Funk that goes along with team sports and sweating in small spaces. But I do like that that seems like they'll have a little freedom to and it's not just like wage go to dinner or go to your whole, you know, you can we've already had four months of watching Netflix. I don't think people can handle it anymore, you know, but I do I feel like Jason spezza only he was a quoted a logged in that Sports an article and he's been one of the leading players involved in this restart program, but he had a couple of quotes but I liked this one. I like them just from a player like cuz we're always worried about what the owners and stuff are doing but the players and stuff have said, you know is everything around us starts opening up. We almost have to tighten up like how like he was talking about players, you know, we're going back to play and we have to probably be a little more careful as we get close to the training camp and he was talking about how it's a certain kind of discipline that the players are going to have to make sure that they instill in themselves. Help not have all brakes and not you know what? I mean, like everyone you see as of the player kind of one of the player reps. He seems very confident that the NHL is doing the right things to make sure staff, you know, like they truly mean it when they say the health is the most important thing everything else is going to come after it, you know, so that's good. So for once in the world the NHL and the Players Association are on the same page, maybe not on this draft model that happened on Friday probably after that. I think I think it's going to be on I just think you have to take it a step out of time. What are you going to do? You gotta watch for outbreaks. I agree with you. The numbers are spiking. I think that's part of what they're thinking if they can get them in before if a second wave or whatever. We don't know. It's all speculation at this point, right? I think at this point the world can agree to just kind of go with the flow in 2020 cuz God knows what will happen next right? So hopefully we won't get a major second Spike. You know what I mean? Maybe now that we're all in a boat if there are going to be some flare-ups. They'll be more here herd immunity that starts happening we can all get through it. But God they need to fix it. He's the long run issue as they need to pick cities that fit all their criteria training facilities Recreation Hotel capacity blah blah blah blah blah blah. They have to be willing to do whatever they can for the health and that seems like that's what they are, you know, making sure people attack and Bill Daily in the Players Association seem to be agreeing on things. So that's good. I just feel like if it off Happened. It's not going to be because everyone like unlike baseball which is happening. Like it's not going to be because it was pissing contest back and forth over stupid shit. It's going to be because there was a Health crisis and they couldn't do it, you know, not because everybody involved wasn't on board for getting on board. That smile and all right. All right, let's move on to hashtag. Ask BNG questions. We have five of them. Let me get my phone ready for the god fourth one which comes from a very valued team member a new guy. So I will T that up right now, but will it start off with you? I want to say this guy is from Finland and I appreciate you listening and and and being a part of this but his name is you so cackle cackle. Oh, wow, Cafe. Berlin. You could follow him at j u s p. Uh, he asks which player would you take for a season 20 21 Krug at 8 million dollars or dabros get five hands down Tory group. Yeah, I mean if you just I mean you saw if you just asking just personal opinion on how money works and and the priority of Team moving forward. You need that sixty seventy Point defenseman in Tori crew the bumper guy and the power play. His Mobility is just it's it's it literally is superior officer. And I think that at that point in just per question, I think that dabrowska be the one to go at 5 because that's just I think that's too high for me. But that's just that's just me but I'd go crew. Oh, yeah all day long I would get Torey Krug eight million and not keep debrusk and I love Jake debrusk. I do think he's valuable as we've already talked about earlier the show. Thank you for your question URL and ya Torey Krug 8 mil on the top defenseman in the league all around 4.40 whatever and sometimes it really a bad ass on his own home back in June. Self exactly and Bruins man and Twitter at Bruins man one Lancer Lancelot. My boy always always happy to give us some questions and I love it. But he says ask. What do you think of Corelli playing on the wing on coils line? I am a huge fan of this. I saw some really good things with karali on the left side and coil in the middle. And even Buick on the right side. I thought that was a fantastic line. It wasn't quite the boiling line that I used to love. But it I saw something in Corelli's game that moved him to a Next Level and obviously it's moving up from the 4th to the 3rd, but I just think his responsibilities increased a little bit with having a pot possession math to like coil and I think it really added a speed Factor when you have coil. That is a pig. Bass player but more of in the traditional transitional type of freaking for would possession. Like I said and and have those guys on the Wings off so much faster to move up thought. It was a good line. Hopefully it sticks around. I'm a huge fan of Corelli. He had a really really tough season this past year, but I don't know I kind of did like that like to see a little more of a coil. I am in favor of anything that helps Sean kuraly be Sean kuraly again, you know what I mean? So he just he had a hard time getting a spark this year. I mean and I don't think from lack of effort and I think he just was struggling and sometimes that happens. So yeah, I mean, whatever Charlie off of the Beast he makes a lot of you know, he's like Bergeron he makes the people around him look good again. I don't need him on my second line or whatever anything crazy like that, but I just think that would maybe at least give him Corelli a different. Look he's not like he's always had to drive the 4th Line, you know, like that's been his role and maybe he doesn't need to be The Driver of the game and he needs to just be able to sit back and kind of do the little things are dirty last two lines always do the next question is from Bruins man at Berlin's man one again. Thank you so much. That's hashtag ask 31. Will Andre Kasha be a factor when the boys start back up. All right. Thank so. I hope so long as we still adjust cuz we didn't play for 4 months doesn't mean we still don't need a second line right wing. I'm hoping there's a little check out Licious things that's happening over here. And that should just relax and like have fun like Jenna mean he's young and he like went to him and krejci a clicking. It's awesome. And I'm hoping like finally, maybe they found the person to finish the triangle like your name. Like and help it so everyone's usually cuz we again like we there's a lot of reasons why we lost the Cup last year, but one of them primarily is if the top three aren't in the Top Line isn't scoring like it's a struggle to find solid secondary consistent scoring on any line, you know what I mean really bad times where certain lines. Okay, cool, like whatever but like consistently, that's awesome. As we are as a team. It is amazing because we've never we've always had the whole there. So I don't know so he be over there, but that's the point. Yes. I I I don't know if he would be because I don't know enough about casha. I what I've seen of him. I think he is a good fit for that line and You know his skill-set, you know, I just hope he stays healthy. It's got a history of concussion and hopefully helps drive it a little bit. You know what I mean and puts a little spark in it. I didn't see much of cascia. You know, I think that he was more of an a transitional period coming from the docs over the Bruins getting in the lineup. I know he was a little banged up before which he didn't get into the into the early games when he when the trade was happening. I know he was I think it was a shoulder injury. I'm not show up body. Let's just put it that way but maybe with all this rest I mean and and and working out getting to know some of the players. I know you not be able to work on chemistry via sewage room conference calls, but once you get back on there, I think the he'll be a little more healthier to move forward. I just really hope that this is the answer to that right that right-wing dead. Scenario, but if if he's not the answer then you know and he needs a little kick in the ass and and watch from level nine or whatever level in the in the fifties maybe a black case could go up and and and kind of you know, see what happens. But I really think that the I really think that the the Bruins are going to rely on who got them the hundred points season and not rely on black cases, but you know the better the better players are going to play so, we'll see what happens. Sorry. I was going to say I don't think Kasia will be on the night before he might not stay on the second line. Like they might move things around coil might end up there on the 2nd line with them off. Yes, obviously the I know you don't want I know you hate. What I'm saying is or you could you know, whatever move Jake debrusk or what you can move people around. Like you said the people who have at least been in the lineup dead. Mostly all season or whatever, but I do think that we traded for him for a reason because Sweeney and them see something Cassie. I don't know whoever has you know, puts their input on it. Something in his skill-set is good for the bees or we wouldn't have purposely gone and got him at the trade deadline. He was injured when he showed up. He was still coming off. He had been you know a little that. He only had a couple of games and just back from injury since early February and we shut down on March 10th. So like you said, we only got like two games in okay, but if we're going to talk about Nick Ritchie being in there over debrusk, you know, like for futures contracts, then we're going to talk about cautious going to be somewhere in the Bruins 12 for words that are consistently on the ice and some capacity. All right. So moving to the next hashtag s p n g. This is from Cameron young you could follow him at I don't see it on the screen shot, but I think it seemed money five and he's a our new YouTuber black and gold hockey.com website and podcast. So he does a tremendous work on videos and Analysis and he's going to continue to do that recently graduated from UNH. I know his birth. There and got him involved. So he's doing a good job so far, but he asked do you think there will be any players that surprised their way onto the playoffs rosney and contribute instead of just being a black case I go back to like what we just said about the Kasha and and his replacement. The very well could be may be the the rest was was too much for a certain player and I'm not saying it could you know put somebody on a certain level in an arena for a long period of time during this this 2014 playoff, but it might be a game here and there that somebody needs a spark. But again, I think I'm wholeheartedly think that Bruce Cassidy is going to suck on those that got him where they are. Now, I mean and it's not coronavirus its way they they ended in in March wage. Where they got a hundred points, so I just think that a lot of these these a lot of folks have really amped up for what's to come of the prospects and they really want to see in as soon as possible even into these playoffs. I just don't see a scenario. That's just a personal opinion in mind. I actually see a player like Jackson dikha or you know, some other place is that a deserving of of call UPS to be more involved next season when things get straightened out and hopefully the the 2021 season isn't compromised but no I just that's just the way I feel I just think they'll do that. But I mean anything to happen to be honest. All right, I would say it's not going to be any of the kids that haven't been out that all this year. Like there's not going to be any of that kind of break out. Like can you figure out a shift? Some of the black cases aren't going to be technically black cases. They're going to be part of the roster. You know what I mean? So it's hard to say who will be the black Easter, you know to answer that but right I don't think any of his eyes hasn't caught our eye before. Well, you know, but we always have a breakout kid every playoff Tori crew Pullman Cliffy whoever like, I mean, there's always some kid recently that has some fun in the class Jake debrusk actually his rookie season if we're going to All right anymore. The last one is a very interesting one and I want to save this for the last cuz it's probably going to take a little while to discuss but it is an interesting one. This is from vibrant ankles at vibrant ankles. On Twitter. This person asks BNG. Do you think Charlie McAvoy tested positive off now this was this was we went back and forth on this conversation and and more or less. I didn't want to speculate but you do have to consider where the person is coming from and it's the also add it's weird that he hasn't been on the ice yet participating in voluntary sessions with Chara and more and all these other guys. Does it seem odd to you that enthusiastic twenty-one-year-old who loves to play doesn't want to participate so I walk As of right now, I just think it's it's it's totally voluntarily. I know he lives in Boston. I know like a player like David pastrnak is on his way home. Now. I think that him what are and some other European euros, they all getting on one private plane that move over here. So nobody's going to get infected and so on that for a source that I know in Providence, but you know, it's just it's not volunteer. I mean it's all voluntary right now. So I'm just I want to go with a you know, I don't want to like really speculate on that. But also, I mean it it does make you wonder but you know when the team does get back together and it now it's mandatory. I think that he'll definitely be involved but you know this I know this was going to happen sooner or later when you look at the tweets and you see who is participating and who isn't there but also this person vibrant ankles birth. Is up there's a lot of other names that have been brought up to and can you speculate on they you know, tested positive or not, you know the whole situation kind of messed up but it was I thought it was a very interesting question. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would say it's hard to check out the list yet because not everyone's back yet. Yeah, I mean people are still moving and it has emerged like a managed. I think the mandatory date is going to be July check until probably after 4th of July or so. There isn't even going to be you know what I mean? They might actually have a little more whatever but we did not know the day but the players I'm sure have till the 6th or whatever to be back for training camp. I think when Charlie McAvoy it might be a matter of where he not sorry itchiness not just him but other players that maybe have some pre-existing conditions maybe like we know Charlie suck hard thing and you know, maybe there's if you're asthmatic and pollens been out of control with, you know, maybe some of those players are just having private sessions. Maybe we don't see or whatever. It's not a job. They don't want to participate but maybe for the sake of it, they're distancing themselves. As long as they have to like this week. We could they can start having 12 in a group or whatever and it could just be a matter of maybe the the isolating themselves a little bit longer before they feel comfortable and participation because they have a higher chance of you know Contracting a disease if you have something like that asthma or that the Houston so that's just my thought on McEvoy, but that's the thing. It's hard to say because no one's making you come back. Maybe you don't feel comfortable or you don't want to or maybe you're still on vacation. You haven't you know, like I don't know what the circumstances but I think like in a map of boys case. I would more speculate that it's more of a health precaution because there are certain conditions that he has thoughts that could make him more susceptible to if just that one like maybe because one person did test positive some of the high-risk players have decided to wait until they have to go to training camp to actually do that and they're just working on stretching and whatever all the other off ice kind of things. Although we're not in the building twenty-four hours a day. We don't know that Charlie McAvoy hasn't gone to bed. You know what I mean? Like like you said like I'd be great if they could set up a webcam so we could just see any time so it's going on and off the ice, but we don't but I don't know I wouldn't expect like again, I don't feel like we talked about with Maria speculating about the player kind of thing. But yes, it makes you wonder but I also you know Think there could be other reasons just cuz he's young and enthusiastic doesn't mean maybe his doctor didn't advise although he's in town and it might look a little shady. You might want to wait until June 30th to get involved or whatever. That's a very fair analysis. You know question though. It was a good question when it was like it was one of those ones that you just you want to take you want to tread lightly on because you don't want to like go to the point that you're starting a rumor, but you also want to go there and just say, huh, that could be a scenario, you know, it's just but you know, like you said with with his pre-existing conditions with his heart and who knows that he might have been just one of those players that listen. Why don't you stay as much time as possible away until we can get a Stranglehold of try to at least but you know it is it is valid. I mean and I know it back then that you know that you know, it's the internet you can find so much in, New Jersey. Asian on it and you can track down, you know who couldn't who couldn't because obviously it's not going to be put out there because of the the the the hippo act so long HIPAA. Yeah, so, you know, but I just thought it was a good question. I thought we can bring it up and and and again I just want to thank everybody who participated in the office tag ask bngs. They've been really good lately. We wish we can get some more. I have a question. Maybe we can maybe a week and signed out hashtag get asked by being sick and we'll throw out a question and see what they say back to you who I like it will have to talk about that and one of our power texting back and forth sessions. but as everything we have to close episode 184 brought to you by Batman line. Please go to back online. Ag and use code clns 50,000, please check out awaken 180. Yes. 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Playoff Preview and Post Season Awards

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Playoff Preview and Post Season Awards

"You're listening to an l. a. kings podcast for more episodes of this and every other kings program visit l. a. kings dot com slash podcast. Jim the regular season is just about over as we take this on a tuesday before the king's wrap up their season with two games in colorado but all sixteen playoff teams have been determined and the stanley cup. Playoffs will start. Saturday may fifteenth. What is on your mind as we reach the end of the regular season. Well for me. It's focusing on the los angeles kings. The that's that's what we try not to do as much on this podcast but just because of where we are in the schedule where at the end normally without dacoven issues the schedule be overweight. Now may be on our way into playoffs right now but Just because. I think it was an interesting season. I think that going into the season. We all felt it was. I'm speaking for the generality here I'm sure there's exceptions along the way but most people felt vegas collorado in the blues. It ended up being vegas colorado in the wild the blues. Get in but then you know. I'm just looking back again. On the king season. I think the the new format for the divisional makeup because of covert i thought that was a benefit for the kings and its chances to make the playoffs. I think through Seventy percent of the season the kings were still there and it looked good. And i think that created expectations which leads to more disappointment. If you really didn't believe you had any chance whatsoever. You're not disappointed at the end. But again i think. The kings certainly. I felt because of the visual schedule. Line lineup the format. They had a better chance. This year than pashas to make it saw some strides. But just to answer your question. I think that timing is always been the issue with when the kings are gonna take the next not the next step the big step and i think the king's are entering that period. Now so that's why they're on my mind there on my mind with a k. I think i have a pretty good idea of what's going on with some of the players. Most of the players got a good read on. I evaluated the myself and now is it time. And i think the king's are entering a window now where it might be time to look outside to help inside. Is this because some certain unnamed player in buffalo signaled. He may not want to be there. Anymore no not at all not at all I think that's a because i agree with you. I don't think it has anything to do with the night on gesture anyway. I think jack eichel's name was out there before with the kings before he went public with statements. Recently which hopefully we can touch on a little bit later. It's just It's just the stage that the kings are in and they basically only had one year and it's not even a full year. I'm talking about the ontario players. Know you would have liked a full schedule to really get the evaluation. But i still think that twelve months ago if you would ask me what said be another year before the kings decide to make their decisions on whether to know again. Try to acquire assets from outside the organization. The one thing that's clear to me is the rebuild is all that's clear to me. I mean i think that's the most people but that's a stage that you have to get through both logistically and in your head you have to get through the kings of through that stage. So that's why i'm just. I'm very interested on what happens with the this summer. The timing if a lot of big things don't happen it would probably fit more of my time line that i had like a year ago but I don't know i'm just looking now. Prospect pool some of those kids have to be packaged. You have too many of the same type of players But it's better to have the hand that the kings have been dealt here because of what they've done to restock the shelves and now moving forward but the is there for the taking. How about that. And i and i said salary-cap cap. Yeah all the things are it. I i think that would have changed much either. I don't think but i'm just wondering now. If if it is the time there's going to be a completely different free agent landscape in the next year or two then there would have been prior to any disruption because the of the assumptions that the salary cap goes up in the assumptions that players will get a certain value. We saw that taylor halls value cratered. Like and maybe. I don't know if it's a virtue of the pandemic but you know what boston's pick boston picked up on. The discount named might be able to sign him on a discount. Will maybe the kings can get a guy on a discount. I don't know if that'll be the case. But it's a buyer's market at this rate. Because i mean vegas golden knights the other night perfect example. This they had to dress ten forwards and five defensemen because they ran out of salary. Cap room they are that aggressive that up against it that they physically couldn't dress three players because they would have been in violation of the salary cap. That shows how crazy things have gotten and how players might have to take discounts to stay employed in the national hockey league. I'm just looking. We're talking about the next step. I'm just looking right now. Cap friendly i think provides an outstanding serve. Oh my god. Where would we be without kelly. What would we do. And i'm talking about free agents. That would become available now Because i think are going to be available because the number one guy analyst ovechkin. I don't think he's going to be available. So i'm not going to include them taylor hall. Patrick lining ryan newton hopkins. I'm just getting to now without dougie. Hamilton i see landis cogs names there but i just don't see him that he's not going so you know it's just reinhard. There are a lot of names out there that like just interesting. you know. it's it's landscape right now that like and it's not just this year because we we were both. We've been debating about this off air. It's not just fix this year. It's next year too because this is not just a oh. There's one summer the kings take a swing for the fences and that's it no no next year there are going to be other free agents that come up and there are still going to teams in a cap nightmare that have to offload assets. Well you're you're pretty good spot here but it's what you do with it. That's the most important thing right now. Rob blake for the four years. He's been the general manager of the los angeles kings. He has a he has had two phases one was he got here with the old group that had pretty much been the team. That won two stanley cups. Tried to squeeze every last bit out of it didn't work and that included signing illegal all phase two rebuil- now we're entering phase three. This is wear and i'm not at any stage. To make grand pronouncements about but this is the most critical stage of rob lake's tenure as the general manager of the los angeles kings because he has done everything right with regard to the rebuilt. He's restock the cabinet. He's accumulated draft picks. He has highly touted prospects. He has a goaltender of the future. He has a A veteran group that he can build around. Now it's the next step. And that's i think that's always the timing. I think the plan has always been there like you just pointed out the rebuilt. Okay you get through that now. The timing you know where you need to restock you. You've looked at you analyze your position by position by position. You've taken a look at your age groups and how they line up. So when are you going to be a contender. And then what age do you need. Those that grouping to be sprinkling veterans younger players. Younger players cost less money. Those types of things so yes. I think it's the timing is always. I could go back two years now. I think i probably still use that word. Timing winners rob gonna make the decision to go and while back then was the decision to to stop. When was the decision to start to rebuild. And we kind of you know win. Kovalchuk contract was cancelled. That was all right. That's it we tried. We gave it a swing and didn't work right lambie the thing. When you're i think when you're when you are getting rid of veteran players that have had past success stanley cup. Success generally speaking the value to you is greater than the value to others. This biggest example i can bring up and i hope this is not meant or taken with any disrespect whatsoever. Because i'm just thinking. Dustin brown he is the all time king to me but his value on the open market. Seventy five percent of the value i think of the dustin brown is because of what he's done for our organization the heart and soul lifelong king other teams. Careful that they care about. What can you do for me now. So that's why it's tough. It's tough to go through with the kings. Were trying to get rid of some veteran players. They did but then there was some guys that they probably would like to have traded for assets in. we're not able to because again the the value we put internally on those people including myself as a media person including the fans who watched a guy like you know. I'm just using them. As what i think is the most poignant example of of how value is perceived the Quickly spin around not this summer next summer. Free agents available again malkin's on the last night. I got sued by knowing all these guys just first name that jumps out his. It's great it's great. I don't think you'll be around. Because i think it'll be signed by then but matthew ca- check oh. Please please make that happen. I love that more than anything people might think. I'm crazy. why would you. I hate tag out another. No i want that guy on my team. I want the brad marchand on my team. I want the mad. You could chuck on my team. I want that an agitator would skill. You kidding me. Then i look at brayden point that filip forsberg jumps out is on that list. Woo brock. I is on that list. Yeah i think that the the group two years from now fits the age range. I think kings are looking for more so the knicks year's crop but again you're you're thinking one years out you think a two year out you're thinking that's how you're thinking that's just the way back to the first question. You asked knits. that's on my mind. It's just like wow. This is gonna be so interesting to watch and exciting to watch. And it's going to be a short off season two more where it would be middle to late. Second round in mid may and We're gonna have the expansion drive we're gonna have the entry draft and then training camp is only four and a half months away so be ready ready. I think there's a little bit of a lull little take place teams that wanna make trades. If they're blockbuster you go ahead and you do it anyway. But if you're in a position where you're concerned about who you're gonna lose to the expansion draft you don't make trade before the expansion draft because then you're just adding another player to your lineup. Unless you're you know completely trading player for players opposed to prospects and you take a player on that means you're gonna have to drop someone off your list or someone more. Someone else will be exposed to expand after the expansion draft. So you're saying. I can go on vacation in early july after expansion draft then. I think it's going to open up. And i think there's going to be the the other thing that will weigh it down as the flat cap. Yup makes it more interesting. Yeah but new. tv contract. Maybe maybe you know some projections. I still. i'm on the conservative side of the financial. Where we're going they. They don't want to be pleasantly surprised. You see what. I'm saying. The nhl lou with the numbers were going to be on tv. before They made the announcement or the projection that there would be a flat cap for four to five years. They knew that wasn't signed yet but they they knew what the ballpark was. But it it's still will be a gin meeting again that's work that's where team the kings probably has one more card in back because there's probably what ten teams like the kinks and then there's fifteen sixteen that are just they can make moves but it's gonna be hard and then there's five or six that are just slapped they can yep So it's right now gordon to cap friendly at least for this year. There are least ten. Who literally have zero caps and then another ten that have less than a million so yeah or you just you know you make sure you guys work on the cardio in the summer and you dress the ten and five. That's one way to do it. Hey it's creative cardio we're going to get to some league-wide division awards. I know you have And i i love your idea in a year likeness of of selecting divisional based awards. But i want to get to that in a moment with the playoff field set. We don't know the exact matchups as we take this. Some divisions have them set. But i wanna get a quick bullet point I'm gonna completely steal. From how elliot freeman and geoff merrick. Do it on their terrific. Thirty one thoughts podcast but we haven't watched a ton of games outside of our own division so we may have incorrect judgment or opinion based on playoff teams. But i want to get Just a quick opinion on each team. That's in the postseason this year. Not necessarily or. They're going to win it. Are they gonna you win a first round series etcetera just kind of what you see out of them right now. Ready all right carolina start in the central division They will play nashville in the first round. Carolina allen's equals effectiveness. Relentless is the way i mean when we played them last couple years. You could tell that. They were building for something. They were relentless. They couldn't put the puck in the back of the net as as effective as efficiently as they would like to but yeah effectiveness. They've gotten quite effective about florida. Great season for joel quenneville. I think that's by points percentage. I could be wrong. I think that's the best season. Panthers franchise history knocking on the door. But i think mr quenneville. We'll get them over the top. I just don't think it's going to be this year. Just looking back at points percentage and indeed this was the best. Points percentage year in panthers franchise history about tampa bay the defending champs I'll give you my opinion on on florida as always it comes down to the goalie because i think they're a good team And we'll see what borowski and drearier and that whole setup does Because it hasn't been bobrovsky whole year there about tampa Wildcard because two new additions coming in basically which are stamkos and kucherov even though they're not new editions. they basically considered new additions. I'm just a little concerned with just how it's happened and now it's going to happen so they're way way way above so you're telling me they got a chance way way above that just not as fixed. I think i picked them three years previous to the actually winning this year. I'm this little bit leery. I look at it and see their one of the quieter defending champs. We've had in a while. Maybe that's just a virtue of the marketplace the or the or the division even that they're in this year vasilevskiy was a workhorse for them. He led the league in wins for the fourth. Straight year I'm with you is just feels quiet. But maybe they'll change in the postseason but it's a wild card to me. Yeah i you know if stamkos can score a point seven five game f kucherov comes in you know one point two points a game That then you know you've got the foundation you've done it. You just did it. But i think it's more difficult than people realize to to bring everyone together battle florida's going to be epic. I love it. We're finally getting bestmattressever ears. Yes matchup first. Round matchup about now they'll let nashville is. Yeah i hate it. I mean they've always been along with another team. Get to later in all. Bring it up. I bring that up. They've always been nondescript to me and they remain that way to me so don't have i don't know how much to read into how they played carolina at the end of the regular season. But they beat them five nothing the other night and they had a pretty Exciting win before that. I don't know it's i. That's a team. That i know very little about going into the postseason i will say this And and maybe that winds up being an advantage. I don't know about How about in the east pittsburgh. Just i mean i. I'm i'm surprised by how well they did. I don't think it was a question. My mind there were a playoff team. I didn't think they're going to win the division. It's just something that man. It's it's the last stand. I was at a last stand. And maybe when the last stan maybe that's when you play your best this like detroit in in their final copy or maybe. I didn't feel like that was necessarily their last stand but mean in hindsight it turned out to be. I don't know i. It's interesting the goaltending tandem there to between Jari and this smith torched us keeps getting passed. But yet you're right. They wind up winning the division. Where a lot of people thought for and they had a terrible start to the year turned it around washing. if you're very which is it's legitimate. Not even a theory even if goaltending is and that just slaps you right in the face when you look at pittsburgh you just. You're not sure washington how they've done it. Is i think a little bit of that old style again. it's just big unskilled but big too. And that's where they get it done. goaltending not answered not answered yet. So another question. Mark their team can are they. Are the team chemistry. All too little too old. How can you ever ovechkin is not known as a huge playoff performer. Either as a star on that team in the guy a couple years ago when they won the cup was kuznetsov. Remember and he's been. He's got a little bit of hot water with the team. Recently like violation team rules cova protocol breached like her to the point. Where the they're considering emmy. He's not going to be back. Yeah but again. I look at that as kind of a stamkos situation or kucherov situation. Where if he can refocus for the playoffs. That's all of a sudden. you're getting a player. That probably wasn't even nowhere near his best when they won i thought he was the mvp. Not ovechkin i mean i. I don't think you're alone. I mean it was nice for over to get it. I just know voting forty. Who knows how math is going to turn out in the postseason. That was the big trade deadline pickup for washington. How about the new york islanders you. I guess you know what you're going to get would new york good enough to get out of that division. No always a chance though. Always a chance because of their approach. They never beat themselves. But i hate to say it this way. 'cause this is complete. How do you say it without disrespect if they win. I don't wanna. I don't wanna see how you build a team. Sorry lo you've already won billions of stanley cups. And i'm barry trotz. There's no more respected guy in the national hockey league but as you can tell i'm talking about their front office. Another blair's yeah. Hey it's It it's the ultimate team in team game is and they do have dancer upfront with barzal. But and a potential cannon. We'll talk about that with With varlamov recent healthy. Scratch mr barroso. Yeah well you know that was trying to. That's that's very lou. Lamoriello isn't it. Let's go to the north over forgotten team. Oh boston sorry. Austin or boston bruins. That's right. Bobby bobby yes all right. We're just anniversary a day ago. So that's right of the the flying through the air goal. Yeah but we think of boston. Yeah i've always thought there. Well oiled machine. So i think in the playoffs they can have effect be effective You know my opinion on taylor hall which is not a positive one overall if even goes close to what he did in the regular season in the playoffs. The one thing. I'm seeing with boston right now. Is this. Alex is when i see them watch. I would see the players watch taylor hall. I think they believe in themselves that this is a new piece that we didn't have before and it gives us a better chance so if if mental approach has anything to do with it. Boston took a straight ahead for me. Think the only question. I have is in goal. Rask is a year older. And there's been kind of three way battle. I mean certainly for the number two job there between swindon and haluk. I don't know if that'll come into play. But given how. I expect the the scheduled to be compressed. Almost to the point like it was in the bubble Like i expect back to back games. A whole bunch postseason with travel day. And then maybe arrestee. But like you're gonna it's gonna be compressed again you're gonna need that number two goalie the haven't haven't sort that out All right now. We'll go to the north here toronto. I think they've taken the strides to add the players. Allah tampa bay did last year. I think they took the strides. I think you know simmons. Joe thornton guys even spencer whose added a while ago longer but just just they're they're playing with a little bit more urban aj so i just i just so respectful for their style. They play in the anti new york islanders. So i'm hoping for them. If there's guess i shouldn't be a fantasy and since well well. But they're trying. They're trying to be i tamp. The the maple leafs trying to be like tampa was where they got a lesson when they got swept by columbus and i think the lease got a lesson when they got beat by columbus that they need to be able to to grind a little bit more. They need to be able to just hang with a team when they're not having success and find a way to win. And maybe you bring in a little bit of grit to do it. The question is goaltending. Freddie anderson's been hurt jack campbell that great run But unproven in the postseason. And what's there behind the two of them because neither of them have been healthy the whole year. So where do you go from there. That's my big outscore. Their mistakes metal. But you know. I just go back if i can just like babcock's statement on mitch monir which is interesting. Because that's was probably the thing that blew everything out of the water but his description of mitch. Maier is one of the best descriptions. I've ever heard a coach. Who's on any player. He says when. Mitch margo gets the puck. The rink gets bigger. He can just use it so well. And i know matthews gets the you know i think the catalyst is smarter about and i questioned goaltending although they're okay probably better than okay but I guess the it's easy thing. Stop one guy the stop the team and the play david with dry seidel. And if you don't maybe have a better chance if it's just such a such a while card for me. A guy who i think is really and i love it because i have any read on any players whatsoever when darnell nurse for his first game in the nhl we played against the kings at staples center and he was all over the place. All over the place. I think it was my ass twelve at night and he just had but you could tell. This kid was going to be a player. You could tell it he. He just wanted it and he'll have to carry the load. I mean a huge load. The value of nurse. I think is in. The playoffs. might equal value of mcdavid just because positional strength. That you need a playoff time and the question for them is depth. Like a ride you after you have mcdavid dry seidel aren h after that. Winnipeg disappointing The way they ended the season season they may they may not as we tape. They might not even keep the three seed right. So it's it's a. That's no i guess i guess you know the the attrition. They've gone through back on the blue line over the last two years. It's just tough to make up just to get back tough to replace. It's a similar situation. Happened for different circumstances but no buffalo envoy off botham was probably the number one voinov kings number two and you kinda lose him for nothing. I know that's going way back so to speak. But it hurts the tough to replace. I look at the halibut in goal. And i say. He had an underrated goodyear with a team around him. Like you say with the blue line. That's that's just been and he still put up numbers that were comparable to lassie's any appeared in forty three out of Of a possible. How many of they played as we take this fifty four so you know like. Can you ever discount a goalie that good former vezina winner. That's the way. I view winnipeg could steal that series. Yeah he's the answer to your pittsburgh's into washington's zaibatsu team that has question marks goal. He's probably the answer to that. He takes his team to the to the next level because of that position. Montreal i like them. I like the way they approach. The game I think they're a balanced team with nothing that you would consider superstar ish but i. I liked her approach to the game. I don't think they have enough to be toronto. i don't i just don't think they're going to have enough. There is this situation though. Kind of like the bubble last year where they walked in feeling like they had nothing to lose like the bottom line for them was they had to make the postseason but now that they're in and nobody nobody is going to pick them against the lease. Yeah that's that's but i. I think the other way. Alex and not favored to make a win the division or anything like that but because of the market because of the stage the franchises in because of how long the gm has been there. I think there is. Maybe the players won't feel it because you're right. The underdog status is unquestioned. But i think as a franchise there's a lot of pressure there more so than most markets and for that reason. I don't think they're going to kind of go under the radar. It's unfair to expect anything. But i've talked about montreal in the context of closer to the playoffs further from the stanley cup. They're a team that's they just. They just felt they had to get in this year. They had to get in now the ran. They've done that. I don't think they're getting anything else. Question for me is what that series is gonna look like as if they lose. Are they getting swept. Are they You know pushing it to seven. Like what is the series. Look like and i. I think even then even if it's a first round exit you can still determine whether or not it was a step in the right direction for montreal. And i'm looking at their head to head records like there's nothing that stands out really other than going six. Oh and three against the canucks It'll be uphill battle but stranger things have happened about The west vegas as of right now and again things could change. They do not control their own destiny for the number one seed in that might be a huge determining factor of how far they actually go in the post season if the now if we expect the scheduled to be the way it is the two three matchup is going to be hard and then what the have left for actual if the schedule Maintains a you know. Every every night case series is over boom. Two nights later jumped in the next year. No that type of thing which we all think it probably will be generally speaking vegas colorado. I think they're above. I even though minnesota's right there. I think they're above everyone else. I think vegas approach lends itself to playoff success. More than colorado's but i'm so intrigued by you. Know whatever happens there. I'm just hoping that it's it's a vegas colorado second round. That's all that just match up. It's not a contrast in styles. But there's a few differences there when you take a look at goal differentials and things of that sort. They're pretty even look at me. No you think colorado as the dynamic you know Only scored one goal more than vegas. Now that's one less game plates. Let's say they've scored four more goals than vegas. So it's not like they're blowing everyone else of the water vegas goals against way down. They both have good goaltending. Yes you know. I guess proven to me is still who know next. We've talked about that recently on air because we've been playing colorado quite a bit You know. I can't lock my head around group our as a guy i trust. Sorry that's just me. I can't he just doesn't give me that stanley cup vibe but then again no colorado doesn't give the other team the puck either so i miss out. Just have the puck exactly. I view this as i completely agree. Do they have anything. Left in tech and a lot will be determined by which first round opponent they get. If it's saint louis. I think we're on agreement that it would be an uphill battle for the blues and vegas will. They don't have a salary cap to worry about the postseason they can play as many guys and then swap guys in and out of the lineup as they please but the ones who have been in there every single night what are they have left in the tank battle. Be the big question. Mark for the golden knights like you. I would love to see a vegas colorado Second round series. If it comes to that because i think it would be outstanding hockey about the avs. We just saw them. Were about the again. Yeah i i like the strikes. They've taken. I still think they have the window open for a year to more You know they're going to run into the cap issues like everyone else. But i'll tell you what they give now that i've seen them a lot lately. I think we spoke probably a month ago. And i was very much vegas. I'm now tad vegas margin. Vegas i think colorado like we were talking the other night qadri is kinda like their third line centerman and when he needs to. We can dangle when he needs to. They don't need them to a lot of times they just need him to shut it down. Blake thompson play edgy. So back on the blue line if they can get any health there any sustained health again a lot of times you would say okay that first round you you bring back missed a long time that near the end of the year. They're going to bring a back. They need some games to get under the belt. You don't have that luxury you just don't to three match up. So that's colorado What the kings gonna be playing hungry team. The last two games gable. Oh yeah we're gonna want those games. Oh yeah my question for colorado. Are they physical enough. And you know the the guys who played in the blue line. Instead of the injured players have been fairly physical and fairly rugged. I would be my only issue. Now if you're bringing sedro gets back. Yeah then you have paves car and gerard got three undersized guys there you gotta norris trophy candidate in that budget and o'connor have been fine and all these other guys they've mix and match until mixed all right. It's back to the mix is it. You know you can't have all dancers right about minnesota while if there was a stanley cup to award to a team before the playoffs started. It would be the minnesota wild for me. I just love what they've done. Along with the predators. I always thought minnesota as in nondescript team no identity in that now is completely gone out the window. I love what they've done. Who doesn't feel good story. Solid balance skill And now i'm gonna one player has given them a chance to be an identity cabinets degree. I can resolve this. Come in there and done that. He has an foreshadowing some stuff for later on. Yeah i know but it's amazing right in a team game and we talk all the time about. All one player doesn't make a team. One player seemed to change that team overnight. It's it's similar to me alexander This is a whole season context as opposed to end the season context. But i see the minnesota wild players looking at caprice off the same way. The boston bruin players are looking at taylor hall right now that woo. This guy gives us a chance. This guy can win a game by himself every once in a while. We can't rely on that all the time because no one guy's not going to do it all the time but i just see the look in the eyes of his teammates and they know he's for real. Yeah i think in boston. There's still concern whether halls for real but the way he's played they're going. We didn't have this before guys. We didn't have this now. we have it. Let's make sure we use it. Also minnesota can hit if i were called the qualifying round series between them in vancouver was the most violent in the bubble. It was It was very very physical one last one. And then we we gotta go onto the awards. Saint louis yeah Saas part my heart for them. Because of dave taylor's connection the blues Got a chance because recent winners of the stanley cup. They believe they can win it. They believe they have the style that can change in the playoffs or they can keep playing the same way where other teams might have to change a little bit. They don't change I think there's holes though. That's i just think there's holes i think they're trying to incorporate more skill. I think right now. Some of those skill players in saint louis that they're trying to incorporate which they need to do the younger guys. But i think there's a few holes in their games and it just creates a not a feeling of the trans lows. No longer they are broncos. Backup perico is just. He is a man he is a key. He is a key especially in the playoffs. If he's healthy and we'll see if that continues to be the case because neck back anything that area. It's you're always a little bit worried all right end of season award time now for context a couple of episodes go you proposed a an award structure for this year whereby most awards would be given on a divisional basis because we can't compare them across divisions there was no inter divisional. Play so Are you going to be giving your awards based on division. Because i've kind. I'm trying to narrow them down. Just one for the whole league. I think i'm gonna stick with divisional but you know i will. I'll add all right all right. Let's start right off the top here. I think the easiest one for everybody called her trophy. is it caprice of versus robertson and caprice just gets the edge at this rate okay. Well i'm gonna go get under stay. I'm gonna go with two. I'm gonna go caprice off for sure. Number one miracle. Michael bunting now Only played twenty one games. He has ten goals in twenty one games. And he's in the west. Yeah so i'm gonna you know. I saw him. What affect the had on a team. That i think again. That's another nondescript team in arizona unfortunately my mind but he he just gave me something. That was a little bit different than of course arcadia zone jason robertson. Gallus great story great story. you know. it's a team that knows looking for. They're looking for someone like that to to take the next step right. They needed that and just very consistently. It looked like just kept going kept going and kept going but you know you need to the caprice official is it's just it is. He has skill level. It is his complete compete level. But it's also the effect he has had on his team. I look at it to the only controversy might be that. He comes from the k. h. l. And he had you know he's playing against men there. Jason robertson is younger But i still view it as the nhl. You're still new to this league and you're new to your team And frankly i don't care. I think was that dynamic and you know what to because start to finish. It's not just scoring its clutch scoring. I wanted to be because early in the year. We saw minnesota the beginning of the season and capri factored in both game. Winning goals. for the why. I hunch that that would continue. I looked it up. Twelve goals in the third period this year and again. There are a couple of games left for for other teams. That are involved in this. That is tied for third. Most in the nhl to behind brad marchand for most in the league and minnesota still has a couple of games to play so caprice of could lead the league in third period. Goals this year. That's to me is when you need a goal. He had the same effect on the wild that panara had on the rangers. And he's doing his first year to the rules. Issue as far as you know. Do you qualify. How about this if you play in a professional league right non north american professional league after your twenty one years old. You're not you're not gonna light on. Don't don't hold it against caprice off now. You have to vote by the rules as they exist after you vote any way you want to vote. That's why you get the boat or everyone gets an individual vote. I think it would be unfair to hold out against him. So i'm proposing if you wanna do something and amend the rules amend the eligibility rules and then then we can talk about the eligibility rules. Just fine i think it could be either. Give me moved out again. I do. I do think the or like people are talking playing in pro leagues. I think that can be moved down a little bit more while. I either way still young. He's still dynamic. I think we're all in agreement here. let's do the vezina trophy here. Couple interesting choices and maybe this one does have to go along divisional lines because so much talk this year about naturally. It happens when you split off into different semi autonomous leagues. Right you know. He had the west playing against all west conference teams or west division teams the other north that was widely criticizes. Having the weakest goaltending. Just looked up with connor halibut. His numbers weren't bad relatively speaking. How are you going about this. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna stick with my so i'm going andre fleury keeping it in the west i'm going through. Bauer trying to give him respect even though earlier. I you know. I just on. I'm perusing the numbers in trying to you. Know he plays for an uptempo attacking team but we know that they have the puck a lot so that helps him but does it hurt him. I mean you're standing there for periods of ten to twelve minutes at a time and you don't see a puck you really don't the way they play. And so that's that's where i go there In the past. No i've sat sided with carey price on on on years where even had down numbers but that was basing it on what i heard from. General managers coaches players and even though the numbers don't kinda add up there then. If there's something outside i would go with vasa laskey. I looked at those numbers again and he delayed more than any other goaltender this year. Other than hell a buck forty two starts. He was a workhorse again. I look at a team like varlamov. Not yeah team the goal. Yeah so that's why. I kind of trying to separate that i go. I think i'm gonna put flurry up there as much as yeah grew. Bauer yeah he had to be good. When i mean flurry should i should. I put this in my voting that he's thirty six and he's still near the top of the league and all this like should i add onus. That's the antea. Antic approach of exactly. They started thirty five. Save percentage in the top ten five shutouts this year and he's probably the oldest in that age category and age should matter. I don't want a solid around him so long benefits from that. But who doesn't i had i. I'd have a hard time. Going against flurry vassilev ski to just because of the work and because of the even larger sample size of forty two starts in fifty six game seasons as intense. So i guess my answer would have to be flurry. Maybe just because i saw or i dunno at the risk of group think as we look at the norris trophy. How much should we wait. Victor hedman based on the team. That's around him this year. Not as much as past. Because again they've had some issues to deal with as who's available So i don't know what i'll be honest with you. I have three or four or five names on my list here. He's not on it. Well i'm going kill car best defenseman. I've seen this year. I'm going drew. Doughty i'm gonna. I'm keeping it in the west. I think he's he's bright back to a level that he is top ten in the national hockey league if our to go outside go dougie hamilton carolina. Just love you know. he's a little. He's could be a wild horse at times. But that's carolina plays they wanna keep going and the guy to me that i think is if i were to put the whole league involved he might get my vote. And that's chris chris. let's hang. I expect that it's just an looking at the injuries that were suffered in that team. And then they end up winning their division and know their goaltenders probably didn't steal a lot of games you know. Someone's got to settle things down there and that's certainly leaning more on the defensive side of the award. I mean it's it's award on kind of the all around aspect of the position. So i you know i'm glad in a sense that the talk about hedman has died down because i thought it was just way to ease used victor heaven. Yeah of course. I so i've got my leader for each division here. I wound up just and these. I just wrote down these names and then i realized oh it is one from each atom. Him fox led the nhl in scoring among defencemen thirteenth. In blocked shots darnell nurse sixteen goals that among defensemen any minutes he plays heavy minutes. Love him hale macarthur now. He was injured for a little bit. So there is that but he led all defensemen in the league. Five on five corsi four this year and then there is dougie. Hamilton seven fewest goals on ice per sixty minutes. And he's top ten in points among defensemen. And if i'm looking at both sides of the position in fox news on a playoff team nurse Probably not as much of a defensive defenceman as hamilton or macari. Even and i like i like hamilton's game i really do. I think watching colorado recently has taken me over the top of my car because i still don't see him enough and i know he was hurt this year. That's going to hurt him in the voting. I'm just going for who i think is the best defense sure. And his work in the neutral zone against the kings recently and i think his understanding of time and space gap control which he can get away with because he flies out there. I just thought he broke up more plays than i ever expected him to. I thought he was in the right position. Now the only thing i would have to do. If i were really voting for this i would really break down some of his tape and see has one on ones in the corners. That's all would. That's the only concern. I would have and that. I'm just throwing that out there. Because i've seen his footwork. Stop start back for. He's tough to beat one on one there too so yeah i think he's visually stops out. I think he even corners right. He's still positionally sound because he can skate so well i got i have him as the conic david of defensive. Yeah with the puck man like you said the other night on the air. If if it's possible to skate faster with the puck then without the puck he's right there with david. Yeah all right. let's get to it then hart trophy. Well i'm gonna stay divisional here. Initially and i'm gonna give you my candidates mckinnon. Colorado stands out drives. The pace is the pace for a high pace team. Mr stone vegas. I don't know any player that does more things positively for his team. I'm just going by what i ain't going here as my value. And here's where you're going to be surprised. It's correal caprice. No you do that value. Yeah he hand to the league. That's the thing handedly turned that franchise around that's disrespecting bill garrison put that's disrespecting the inevitable input that's disres- by but i just want get my point across. I want to exaggerate. I think single. He has changed. How that franchise is looked upon by everyone else and more importantly he has changed how they look upon themselves internally. Who's going to win it. Connor mcdavid. yeah. Yeah yeah which is a solid excellent choice value though value. Where was minnesota before piece off. How i'm supposed to argue with you. But you know what that's a compelling case as a really compelling case and they're knocking on the door at the top of the division are not going to get there. They can't now numbers. The can't sir but i mean would they have been there without him. That's a it's a serious question you brought it. Would they have even been in the conversation. No but even be the playoffs. Another good point. That's a really good point. I mean i was. I was just looking to kind of mcdavid stone. Eighty crosby because of where it's You know sure. But you know what i agree. I think david a win it. Because how could you vote against a player on hundred points in fifty six games easy on a team that needs to escort mistakes right right and other teams know that and you still can't stop. I skipped over the selke trophy by the way like. Thank you not not not as interesting a race this year. I i mean. Is there any argument against mark stone. Maybe a riley. Yeah too too too. Solid to solid guys. I'd go stone because we see him again and again keeping with my theory. Keep it in division You know those guys are just. I just again. I think that the the celtics has morphed into a trophy. That is not a word to the definition of its shown should be. Yeah because if you were strictly looking at defensive forwards you'd be at a lot more third and fourth line. yes shutdown i players. Yeah but yeah. It's it's more of a two way it's evolved. Maybe they can tweak the well. I mean defensive forward. There are two components to this right. You still have to play forward and you still have to be competent at that position. and not. just worry about the defensive side of it yeah I agree all right two more. And here's one okay. I'll go with the one that we don't vote on. I the jim gregory award. Gm of the year. There are a lot of good choices this year. Lot of good choices. I mean there's a ton a shortlist about i've got dubus mcraven. Don waddell bill garin those. That's my shortlist. i just i'm online the bandwagon. I'm gonna go bill garin. I'm staying with minnesota. i'm just and you know we all we all. I think we realized that a lot of these awards are given due to expectations in whether you exceed them. Kyle do. This does fit there. He fits you because you know as much as the personnel is unquestioned. There is still a question. Marks about tronto intent. Do best made those little little tweets right and in that market to and we discount the fact that it's you know it's on you is naturally no burden montreal was talking about earlier just maybe forced upon him to make decisions just to get it done but now that those are you know again. It's carolina has been no being built for a while. You know what i mean. So it's tough to single in one year on that but you know again. The one year change to me would be bill guarantee in minnesota under the radar is don sweeney in boston for pulling off the taylor hall trade. Yeah maybe as much again. I'm not taylor fan and got him. I would admit though right now that he he is changing my mind. Thank you know. Sometimes that veteran team circumstance moore he has to fit himself into them as opposed to the other way around Could you go morello even with the you know i all. There's so many name this year. Like lula morello's teams. Don't really come to line awards at all. But maybe that's where he gets the because it done in a certain way to get it done his way and i think he's proven to get it done so i may just because if i had to come down on one i might have to go with donald l just because it's a culmination of that building project for a good three four years. How good carolina is right now. I don't know if it's necessarily that you know. In this one year it was deserved over more than the others but contenders for the stanley cup. This year. and they're going to be for a good little while here all right. How about the award. That we both vote on Through the nhl broadcasters association. The jack adams award now. I think to your point jim too often. This award goes to a coach that exceeds low expectations. The ones that. I've got on my list or kind of similar again exceeding expectations. Guys like bednarz. All the injuries sheldon keith in toronto Joel quenneville the panthers rod brind'amour's carolina like all these guys had high expectations and they met or exceeded them. I go and i'm going to go in the order. Three to one and to me number. Three is joel quenneville. I think he has. You know they've been waiting for this. Move and he was there last year. But you know it takes. I just think he's and that's why. I still think there is still knocking on the door. But i think I wouldn't surprise me joel. Gets them over the top not this year but coming up number two to me. Is mike sullivan injury situations. Plus general manager being replaced during the season still gets his team to win a division that is dealing with circumstances. That are difficult to do. And it's very obvious where i'm going for my choice as the winner. That would be dean everson of the minnesota wild. I think that the gm bill garin did a good job but the brought in four five different pieces this year even outside of caprice off and i think everson flies under the radar because an we've dealt with them a little bit right. He's not the most boisterous guy. He doesn't toot his own horn. He doesn't care he just gets it done. And i'm very impressed. And i'm also impressed now that that team has an identity. I think dean is part of that. I like that and i liked. I wasn't even thinking about mike sullivan but again. It's you know penguins team. That wasn't expected to win that division. I think i think. I have to go with joel. Quenneville in florida. And i go back to the first game. They played this season. Remember keith yandell and the iron man streak snapped. He was almost benched for the first game and they had a cova pause in that prevented that first game from happening on time. Lo and behold keith. Yandell was back in the lineup for their actual season opener against chicago and hasn't been taken out since and i look at the managing group like that it could get. It could get ugly fast if your group is unhappy with the treatment of a player or if a certain player doesn't like the circumstances and florida a team that you know they. They swing for the fences. I'm gonna say a year ago by signing bobrovsky in keeping this r- they were up against the cap year and then there was a thought that the front office was going to have to cut payroll and they lost a player to and they've had to be acting the trademark gwen steady hand. You you also eat to me. He also fits exceeding expectations. Yeah i mean. I think everyone looked at thirteen talent but i don't think they thought team and i think joel is made about the team. Should we do stanley cup. Pick should we. Should we pick a champion. Sure got a lot of chances of being wrong right chances of being. Don't place a bet on us if you're in a state where gambling is legal. Don't do that on our recommendation. What's fascinating about this year. And you know there's no way of keeping this again is the fact that none of these teams have played cross division so once you get to the final four there is no way of knowing which style of play is going to be better. And which team is even going to get out of the four teams in their divisional rounds. I look at voting with your head or voting with your heart here. I think the colorado avalanche ooh i just and we still got two games against them. This week i just. I think that that team has all the to now. Granted other question. Mark sure but granted. I haven't seen carolina play much. I haven't seen the play all that much. I haven't seen pittsburgh. Play all that much but i just this division wound up being a weak division. Let's be honest. Saint louis is probably the weakest of the sixteen playoff teams right there with montreal most likely And national yeah in nashville. They're they're there to know. Now now they think week force fourth place teams or teams that squeaked in but i i mean the bottom of the west not good yes. We played the records of the tops. Right but by i test why colorado can do and they beat vegas the other night if they can do what they did to us and and beat vegas tonight though they'll be the one getting out of the four in our division and the only question then becomes goaltending by. That's pick the question to me. Is the team going to pick is bogutin. That's unfortunate but that's the concern have to go with my heart. Just because of how. I know people feel about it. I would go with the toronto maple leafs body. My heart one. That's not gonna do it yet. Still put them right there. I'm going to go with the carolina. Hold night yeah interesting. Stanley cup final. Yeah so that's where. I'm going or i could go with vegas hurricanes but i just don't want to say the team in our division. No i know. I know i hate. I hate saying it to colorado's not going to be in our division next year so we don't say and not have any guilt about travel. How can they not be in our division as separate canadian. Come on arizona's getting kicked out to when we portlaoise for the coyotes. We can drive to both of those cities last year in the division. No more no. More time warps where we get back after a coyotes game and we get back earlier than we would have if we played at staples center it takes longer to go through customs in vancouver than it does to fly to colorado to tell you but you get seattle next and that'll be fun. When's the last time you've been a seattle. Have you ever been seattle. I will answer it this way. I don't know if i've ever been there. Which tells you how much effect it's had on me. If i was there which tells me. I probably wasn't. There probably flew in. But dan was connecting somewhere. Else it is going to be such great hockey town. And i'm excited to have them in our division. I'm excited to have another team in. Same time zone sorry arizona. And i just love. Seattle is a city. It's a good town. All right jimmy. Anything before we wrap up here is it. This is it. This is it. Unless we have one more which i don't know if we will or not but that just just goes to show how much i this all i would do is ask for kings fan to give us a little bit more patients which is tough to do. I think the right there again. I mentioned on the air. And i have some analytic numbers to back it up but just how you know the the number of points the kings were able to generate this year in the standings probably doesn't add up to now seventy percent of the season anyway which is which is a good sign right. You're supposed to hang in until it's it's important. The kings hung in fills import but when it was important they did not produce. They did not. So that's your evaluation right there. It did not happen when you hoped it would happen. And so i'm just know patients. But i am i. Am i got a little pit in my stomach ailment of know. Something's going to happen just habit it's common. It's common something what it is. I don't know but it's coming. And i'm not just talking about. Yeah something that is not a draft pick. It's not a normal progression of a player developing just something else and like you said. I can't put my finger on it but So that's you know it was. I heard if i can. I heard royal Rory mcilroy speak the other day after when golf tournament. And he said he didn't think he was going to miss the fans it's and then. He said he needed the fans. This is an individual sport I played golf my whole life. Maybe that's why not good at it. But i don't put momentum into golf like you know. Sink birdie putt and then the fans get next more than a team sport. But i'm just gonna roll off rory and just the last two or three games. The first couple were really quiet and really odd. But now i know what it feels like to have everyone in the building and It's something that if any sport needs its so let's hope let's hope everything goes according to plan here and No really appreciate the kings fans who felt that netanyahu Comfortable coming understood. The fans at weren't comfortable. I'm still uncomfortable with a lot of situations. even though i've been vaccinated and i'm around only people have been vaccinated. Still still uncomfortable. That's me that's my individual choice. Or feeling but i appreciate the fans that were able to come back in and see us. Insurer sean and again can you put the put the team in a bad context by. I mean there's going to be something franchi next year right with people understand. They had to do the thousand game now. And i thought we talked about it at right after it happened. I thought it was one of the just one of the best ceremonies. The kings of judah but i just hope next year. There's a chance maybe maybe combine a few milestones that happened. You have a night where you can. You know drew's gotta thousand games coming up. Yeah you know something like that then but then you kind of take away from his night. It's tough to. But i just hope there's another night we'll have some legends nights. I'm sure coming back yet just now a way to to make sure that there are. It's a full building. Yep you know when when we get a chance to recognize such an achievement. Yup i agree and maybe May maybe there'll be a plaque somewhere or something you know. I have no idea but yeah i i'm with you on that first of all your golf game is really good. Let's just let's just put that to bed. Yeah this was. They've this is a weird season. Let's not do it again. I i will say one thing about fans being in the building. Is i think from day one. I missed just the even the simple gesture of somebody coming up and saying hello and a striking up a conversation when when we went to work and we called games and we were the only ones there. It was still hockey but it wasn't that that's not why we're in this sport. Not why we're in this business 'cause i've done i've done plenty of things where you know. I'm in a studio and you know not around other fans do tennyson summers. And that's fine but you're in it to go to the big event you're in it's to be part of something bigger and i finally you know. Get the seeing that light at the end of the tunnel. Having fans back in the building was I'm glad we were able to do that. It will let me tell you. It was not revenue neutral. It was a money losing proposition to have two thousand fans at staples center. No doubt but was it important to get people back end to show that it could be done and to Just to start that engine again. You bet and i cannot wait for it to be if it's not a full house than something close to it in the fall And i'm more optimistic than ever that we will that we will get there in this country and hopefully in canada as well because i think the The ancestral home of this sport deserves to have a packed house singing o canada at. Let's say the bell centre montreal on a saturday night in hockey night in canada And to give people those goosebumps at home again. That's that's what we only with this sport. We talked about the other night on the air. It's a team sport. And without the fans you lose that team atmosphere. It was nice seeing watching other people have enjoyment and have fun because the kings fans that came have fun they enjoy it and it was just nice to see that apple. Yeah and no it shows how much you appreciate something when it's taken away from you and with that we will end. Thank you so much for listening as always thank you. So much to our producer jesse cohen. Who puts in all the hard work to push these episodes out to you. It will be a fascinating and exciting stanley cup playoffs jimmy. You're doing games on radio. I'll be doing games. Ren bbc sports on tv So you will still hear from us as the postseason rolls along but we are excited to be back with you after a short off season once again in october at staples center. Thanks so much for listening. And we'll talk to you soon

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"Everybody just finished candle-soot once again. This is a combination cast. Or maybe elliott we should call it franken cast because it's done in a couple of pieces in a couple of different environments and then stitched together by our producer amel owned by the way. That's a snazzy right. There great job say. We shouldn't comment. We had no idea that always was sampling. Are three podcast commentary to music dude. He has so much sade if he wanted to. He could sewer both of our careers. Now this is what i think it is. Well yes i mean. There's no question about that. We could get burned very badly but almost like we gotta do these. Because i got to stay up all night editing and i wanna make sure it sounds good now. I know that's total. Bs and all he's doing is seeing what music you can play to amilton that. Somebody's when he hears us talking. He hears pieces of music under phrases. Which i really liked the sound of. I can appreciate that. I was good stuff when you first played that for me. I laughed off. I thought it was good. Okay a couple of things serious time. Okay mark safely. Four-game game suspension. The hit on. Jake evans the charge. The injury no history. But he's gone for four games. Your initial thought on all of this because it became listen as we all know it became a firestorm on twitter. It dominated conversation. Everybody had an opinion on it. No one sat on the fence. No one saw any gray area. How did you see it. I have to say the suspension was much more stiff stern than i was expecting. It's a very very i had to. I thought maybe three. It's a very very stiff and stern suspension. This is an absolute punishment you know when the nhl players safety tweeted out that it was going to be a hearing and not in person. So i tweeted out so everybody understands that that means a maximum five games. People were angry. They're like one joke not serious enough. I completely disagree. I think a four-game suspension in the play offs. Especially for a guy who had no history. Even though evans was i think that is a very very stiff suspension. Like if people say that they want to see the department of player safety handout harsh harsh penalties that to me is a harsh harsh penalties. I thought it might be three k. We got for the. It's contentious jeff my senses. There's three groups of people. There's the people who say throw the book at him even though he has no history. I think that's a brutal hit. The player was badly hurt. You re put you so the second group. And i think there's a lot of people in this group their former players or are there you know guys who played recently or people who've been around the game recently and their opinion is ten to twenty thirty years ago. That play was okay. It's not okay anymore. My feelings on that have changed. Gotta get that out of the and the third group is. He's trying to prevent a goal. And jake evans should be looking. That's three groups of people that i think exists out there. Do you think i'm missing. Anyone know whether there might be one one more group that sees this as two very specific teachable moments. And i don't even know if one is teachable. And i want to get to that in a couple of seconds here but you can look at this and say. There's there's actually two mistakes here one the hit and to the person putting himself in a position to get rocked and notices very distasteful for no. Cut you off there. Because i've been thinking about this all day. And i think i have a way to properly phrase this because i think there's a big difference between blaming the victim and saying could something have been done to avoid this and the best answer i got today was former former. Nhl player who now coaches kids and he said. I can think that mark safely was wrong here. But i can also say to the young kids. I coach that when you come out from behind the net in that situation you should have your head up. He said both things can be true. And this is a guy who played think he retired around two thousand ten. He said when i played that was okay and i had no problem with that being okay now. I don't think it's okay because the game is too fast and anybody with the lack of interference. And i know people complain. There's always interference. There's much less but with the speed of the players in the equipment they wear. He said we can't have that anymore and he said i feel very strongly that i can say that mark safely's hit needs to be taken out of the game but jake evans also has to understand that when he comes around the net. He's got to have his head. That's where i'm at on this one. That is exactly my position. But i wanted to take it. One step further will probably go back and forth on various parts of this initial situation in playoffs. We talk a lot about players making sacrifices. We talk a lot about players blocking shots. We talk about hired hockey players. We talk about putting your body in harm's way in a consistent basis. There's a part of me that wonders and there's only one person that knows the answer to this elliott. But part of me wonders if jake evans knows all that because i think that he does like you. Don't get to the nhl without knowing that like you don't come from around the net lake that without knowing the potential for danger exists. I refuse to believe the players. Don't know that. I was born at night but i wasn't born last night. I wonder if and only jake evans can answer this. I wonder if at that moment jake evans looked at this and said i'm going to score this goal and if i get hit i might get freight train here so be it. That's a sacrifice. I'm willing to make because it's the playoffs and i want this goal. You know. I think that's a very interesting way of looking at it and maybe that's true. I can't answer that. I don't know either. I wonder just wonder like it. Sounds like he avoided the most serious injury here. Like i was surprised to hear he didn't go to the hospital. And i trust dr moulder from the montreal canadian sir. He's been around at this for a long time. He's very highly respected by the organization. The players so i believe in his judgment. I trust his judgment. I was shocked to hear the go to the hospital. But it sounds like the good news is that although evans has a concussion and i take those very seriously he avoided definitely the worst case scenario that we were all worried about. But it's funny. You say that because people who told me almost the exact one eighty that their question was jake. Evans is still a guy who's relatively new to the national hockey league. He did get hit last year. By jake muhsin but he's still new the nhl and what they wondered is that what has one player. This is a hall of famer said this to me. Sometimes he thinks that young players come up through hockey now. Don't understand how much the game changes in the playoffs. And you know. He said to me that that play from march safely he said. There's no way that happens in the regular season and it kind of goes to a point that him and i agree on the biggest change in the playoffs is from the players. I know people hammer the refereeing. But i think some of the same things we complain about about. Refereeing happened in the regular season as they do in the playoffs. I think in the plows. The biggest change is the players. they're meaner they're nastier. They will do things that they ought to pay attention to detail. They concentrate more and this famous sits to me. That never happens. In the regular season there is no way. Mark comes from two hundred feet away. Jake evans in the regular season. They say it is playoff. Play again this person said to be. He's in the camp of. That's okay thirty years ago. That's not okay now. There has to be a severe penalty for him but also he said the same thing he would say if his kids play. They're young they play. He said he's going to show them the video to say this play is wrong. But when you're coming out from behind the net like that you have to have your head up and i will say the vast majority of people. I spoke to have that opinion that this is a play. We need to get out because it's too dangerous. But you still have to be aware and as hitting decreases especially during the regular season. He said it's incumbent on players to recognize especially veterans to teach younger players. This look playoffs now. This is different and things are going to happen. That don't happen to the regular season. Here's why bring it up about did evans. Just say you know screw it. This is like a block shot. I'm putting my myself in harm's way. I'm putting myself in a risky position. I remember talking once with mark test. To and i asked the test do this is when there was a rash of hitting from behind penalties in the nhl and a lot of it was players are flashing the numbers of boards and And getting hit and it's really dangerous at still is and it you cringe when you see it when it goes wrong. It's awful. It's like it's pit of your stomach when you see it. And i said why do you guys do that. And he said what do you mean what what what do we do. What and i said. Why do you turn your numbers at the boards. Like whenever you have the puck in. Someone's around you turn your number at the boards. And he started laughing and he goes. It's easy he said. Ed one of two things is going to happen one. We're going to protect the puck and keep possession or two. We're going to draw penalty. It's that simple. And i said you're willing to sacrifice like a broken neck to protect the parker draw penalty and he said yeah like very matter of factly. Yeah of course. That's what we do and that goes to your point about playoffs and how the how players change. It's not just the person who hits but it's the person also who puts themselves in a dangerous position. And i don't know whether jake evans saw torres on williams i don't know if evans ever saw armstrong on koivu i don't know but i don't think you get to the nhl without knowing where the danger areas are no matter. What era of hockey even. If it's the latest air of hockey you grow up in. You know that when you're coming around the net even if you have a blind spot. There's a chance that someone's gonna be there for a hit maybe dropping down from the blue line. Now you don't think someone's screaming from one hundred eighty feet away. That's going to run right into you. But you know that there's a chance that you're really gonna get hit there and i kind of look at this because i don't know but i just wonder if players look at those situations and say this is my version of blocking shy. It's an interesting point just as my version. Put myself in harm's way because we need this goal in game one like we don't look at it as a sacrifice from the player. I i don't know. Only jake evans knows only jake those now. I do believe that. We are talking about a different outcome. Both in terms of what happens to evans. And what kind of suspension there might or might not be shy flea plays the puck or tries to i believe from what i hear in the hearing sharply was told we would have liked to have seen you. Try to play the puck. He changes the angle of his body once he realizes he has no play instead of stopping just carries right through basically what happens. It sounds like sharply says. I don't think i had to that time player. Safety watch the video big clear by making that decision. You decided you were going to hit them. And then you're responsible for whatever outcome there is but there's no doubt in my mind because i believe shave was told this in the hearing if he makes more of an effort to play the puck Even if he collides with evans the suspension is not for us. It becomes more incidental than deliberate a couple. More things about this too virus was injured. Complete fluke play. He goes out on a stretcher. Evans goes out on a stretcher. After that happens in game. Three of the islanders series brandon carlo. It was really scary looking at him. No attempt to injure bike cal clutterbuck at you checked him into the boards. Unfortunately this headway of the boards. It was a scary thing to watch as carlos struggled to get to his feet by it. Doesn't factor in suspensions or at least it shouldn't but i do wonder if the nhl looks at this and says that's too serious injuries. We've seen in a short period of time. This is not good for us. And how much that becomes a factor in everything in what sense in how games that are called or how suspensions are meted out to hear you say well at the end of the season there was wilson pinero right and then you have the scary situation with taveras and then you have the scary situation with evans. I think you can't help. But look at it and say we can't have this every week is should it. Be a factor in suspensions. Probably not is there a human element to it. Where does. Sometimes i want her. Well you know the phrase. I'm going to reach for here. Is a game getting too fast for it to be safe. That's why the people who i know felt very strongly that they had to punish safely for this. It was all about that. It was all about speed. You know twenty or thirty years ago. You wouldn't have been able to get that much of a head of steam to hit a. You'd be interfered with along the way someone would get. Somebody would have interfered with you and also the equipment wasn't the same i all. I've mentioned this before. Dave ellett is solution. Always was if you want to get rid of injuries. Get people playing in the equipment that everybody played within the eighties. Because then you felt much as the person you were hitting but the people who felt very strongly that this had to make an example of were all about you have to warn players. That speed is the enemy as much as they are. You can't allow the problem is the. Nhl puts the accent of their game on speed. Everything is fastest game on ice fast game on ice. And it's gone from being a contact sport to a collision sport where it is guys hitting lake billiard balls. When's the last time you saw someone rubbed out another player. It doesn't happen they collide. There's no more get angle get body. Rub its collision born. And i talked with us on hockey central. Like the difference and we might be you know parsing it too much but there still is a difference between body checking and hitting hitting is a real tactic. Body checking is separating player from to force a change of possession hitting as a tactic. And i don't know where that changed. I don't know where the game change from. Physical contact is body. Checks to physical contact is hits but somewhere along the way hitting became a tactic and not just the change possession but to punish and we all kind of went okay because we did know about the effects. Now we did. Was you know show them on. Highlights with goofy music behind it with guys going but ouango keep your head up but now here we are and it's gotten at times as you mentioned even accidentally like the corporate affairs that you mentioned. That's an accident but you talked to anyone who's on the ice at look how fast perry gets up enough speed to get past the varas and caused that injury and he's not even like considered a burner in the nhl data at all. It is remarkably fast. The last thing. I just want to say on this topic is i don't know if i've ever heard so. Many passionate arguments on behalf of those three positions. I mentioned the people who felt throw the book at him. The people who felt it was okay twenty years ago. But it's no longer okay. We have to stop it and the people felt he did nothing wrong. Like there was no arguing with any of them. They all agreed their position. And nobody's mind. Who's changing quick conversation but officiating in general shirt and i don't want to go through a call by calling. Oh they blow it and this is you know. Game management versus. Call the rule book. We've had all of that this season as well. Does it. not feel as if referees a kind of out to prove a point right now with all these panels and overtime. I've wondered about that because the triple overtime game with that where winnipeg knocked out edmonton. I was one of the people that night on the show. Who said that. I thought they lead way too much. Go and you know you look at some of the calls since then carolina nashville game six. There were one on each team. The colorado vegas one. I didn't like that one at all but there was a penalty in overtime. Rantanen at all. I hate those. I hate those at anytime. Heat that that stick checking said eight that call eight that call and then tampa carolina game three like. I thought the penalty on hamilton regulation. I didn't like it. And then they got the makeup in overtime and they scored on it. Which i thought was probably fair to carolina. I've wondered too. Are they saying okay. We'll do as you guys are whining about families. Here's your penalties and now we hate those even more. There's no win. Come with you like it just seems like it's more of a thing in these playoffs. We'll see goes before you get to your driveway. And maybe already thereafter that lengthy faith faithfully evans conversation. When you get a thought on each of the series so far. We'll start with that montreal. Winnipeg in as record this. We've only seen the one game and for those of you thought that montreal was gonna be coasting on fumes for game one and that was gonna be the tap in for the winnipeg jets not so fast montreal up one nothing in this series your thoughts first of all. I look at game. Seven of that toronto montreal series and i saw one team that believed it was gonna win and one team that hoped it was gonna win and montreal was the team that believed it was gonna win by the time they got there. The canadians were were winning this series. They can't beat us. We're gonna win. And i thought they would be spent for game one but no believe to me is such an amazing thing. It can change so quickly. But i i see a montreal team there. That believes it's going to win. Believe in their goalie they believe in their top four d. They have just enough firepower and they can check. You know. I remember bob gainey. Once vob wouldn't give a lot away. But i think when he fired key carboneau. I had a chance to talk to them about it and he said to me. We can't check. And i believe that you have to be able to check to be a good. Nhl team and this montreal team they can check you know. The da had one point against toronto. To know didn't do much offensively against toronto but they check toronto into submission. And i was thinking about that the other night and i just think that in the play offs. You have to know how to do that. And they can do it. And the offensive era of caufield Kenyan suzuki you can see it coming. These are all confident players. Who believe they can score. And i don't know if they can win it all this year. But they're on a ride right now where they say. We believe in our formula. We can do the things. That effort requires like competing in checking and weaken rightness. Now i look at winnipeg right now shifu suspended. Damigella got hurt stazzone. They seem confident is going to be able to play. But it's due time. They need him now. He is not enough of a difference maker this year k. It's a screwed up year. He got traded everything. Now it's year luke. Dubois time they need him to be a difference maker. Because this montreal team they believe by the way. I wanted to say one more thing about paul maurice. I know he got ripped today for saying need to do everything. Dander snap a goal from being scored sparta. The game was heavy heavy yet for sure betas clean. His player is getting destroyed. He's standing up for his player. I disagree with them. But i've got no problem with them and i understand what he's doing a hundred times out of one hundred. That is a coach blocking a shot. Right there of course pommery seem to any coach is going to do that. You're not gonna fire your guy under the bus. I completely understand that. That's him getting getting the way of the shot. Vegas and colorado. Here's my question to you and after two games Colorado is up two nothing although Those two periods yesterday. Vegas was very much in control. And that leads me to this question. When we talk about colorado it's mckinney in atlanta gog. it's renton in kale mccart at cetera. How comfortable are you putting grew our in that mix of key avalanche players that we should talk about. I think that's a great question because first of all when the president nominees came out this week i think he was the one guy who kinda got the seriously to it that people understood. Why flurry was there. And people understood why vasilevskiy was there by grube. Our despite the fact numbers were really good. The halibut fans were like what and the sorrows fans were like. What and you know. He's shown in the playoffs and especially showed in game number two why he deserves to be there. I think the part of the problem is is that if you look at the avalanches future you look at the the deal coming up for mckinnon you look at the deal coming up for landis cog you look at the deal coming up for a car. You kind of automatically assume that there's just no way the group our is going to be able to get his market value so he'll be gone right so i think that's part of the problem there. Jeff is that people just assume all well they're going to have to sacrifice grew hours. They can keep everybody else. And maybe that contributes to the fact that he doesn't get that same recognition. I see the first two games i mean. The first game was it was like the globetrotters man the second game. I thought vegas played really well and you know they got the power play in overtime. That was a very even game and vegas deserve to win. Grew our saved colorado in that game in the first minutes. I thought it was going to be another ten. Nothing game really. Yep and then vegas found their legs and got going and you know they lost in overtime. I mean do you see colorado losing four games out of five. No i don't. But i always i mean my whole life of always been told. You're you're never in trouble into you lose at home and vegas hasn't lost at home yet now. I don't is you sound like the golden knights. 'cause that's what they were saying after game number three of course but given the way the colorado was playing in the confidence with which they're playing and the way they're blue line is working and all this by the way we should mention is all without. Now's gadhri yes. And the way grew hours playing right now. They're the tv. Look at and you say okay. Everybody with all respect tampa and at times. Tampa looks like the globetrotters. As you mentioned. That's the team colorado's the team. They look so good right now. Let's see what the rest of the playoffs kadri. Second hearing i believe is friday and it would just be wild if we had a situation where his suspension didn't end until the semifinal because the avalanche just go through go right through the the vegas golden knights did st louis having lost game yet the perfect record six zero so far boston and the islanders yup interesting game on thursday. And i don't know what you do with this but you ask. Were is on television afterwards. What do you say when the guy that kept you in the game also cost you the game because varlamov was great but the actual was this be blunt at bad goal while he's also got a weird thing going where he's given up goals early in all four of a starts right. Yeah like three of them. I think it's within three minutes. The one tonight was in six minutes. But i think it was. It was the second or third shot. It's weird he's had trouble getting into games like always i. Defer to on goaltender calls right. Kelly played it for sixteen years. I didn't but i would think about going to sarokin. You mentioned that. The the one thing that kelly pointed out right away was how varlamov had his rates gate On the outside of the other post which got him away from his angle which got him right from playing that properly yup they. I don't know if that's enough to say well. Hey sore guy we're going to you know was very trotz. Would say the other russian. We know for sure. We're gonna have a russian in that. I just don't know what to do with it. Because just bluntly that can't go in. I think jeff flake if you take a look at carolina game three. What was the one card. That rod brind'amour's could pull. It was the goalie one card that he can pull. Oh peter maroshek and it's not necessarily a shot against the delicate vicks was. Yeah but the other thing too is like you've lost two guys. You don't have nita writer. You don't have tro check and fogel gets hurt game three. But you know you don't have. It's not like you can jolt your lineup. With a change down the lineup. The only way you can kind of jolt them is say. We're gonna switch goalies. And that's what i wonder if trotz looks at and says look down to one sarokin saved us once when we were in trouble against pittsburgh. Do we give ourselves the jolt by doing that here. You know i gotta say to rask. I was worried by what i saw. Raskin game number two just in terms of his body but he gets the extra day of rest. He was really good. Yes no maybe not worried anymore. I don't know we'll see. But i might just do it to give my team the jolt and also not have sarokin sit too long. That's very good to number ones essentially tampa carolina's fun and here's why no matter what point of the game it might be. And that's a big overtime win sebastian. Aho the heroic three two is the final series still tampa leads to to one. The great thing about this series is at any minute You could see either side. Throw the puck around again. We're saying globetrotters but why not throw the park around globetrotter style. Like the two one goal. The brayden point goal was a thing of beauty that men colorado have power play competition. It's just spectacular. It's just looked so nice. It's just gorgeous and yo- tampa does it. Carolina was terrifying with the tip. Pass in the neutral zone sebastian. Aho for the first of two on the night including the ot winner just. You're never that far away from seeing a play that makes you go like oh man that's awesome. That's what's great about this series right now. You'll the hockey's been really good. It's been excellent. The quality of play this year in the playoffs has been really good. Are you surprised. Considering what everybody's been through yes. And no i gotta say it's a good question jeff because in the play offs. I don't pay a lot of attention to other things. I really try to be dialed in and you know we're on every night. People expect a lot from us. And you know you always try and deliver. But i was reading about the celtics today. Because you know danny ings. Step down and brad. Stevens is going to move from coach to to manager and it was a big story so i was curious about it and you know age talked about the last year and how long scene and he was running out of steam and he was beginning to think. Okay i'm gonna make a change and he's not the only one a lot of people are like this and i got the impression reading about the celtics that you know. They felt there that once their players realized they couldn't beat the nets. they were like. Okay you know time to go home now. I don't know if that's right or that's wrong. But the impression was there and i think that happened in the nhl in the regular season this year where one some teams realized. They were out. I can't wait until this is over. Just stay healthy. Don't wanna get injured. Just get this over with and so a couple of things so in the playoffs. I wondered like montreal. Toronto montreal got down three two one. Would they fold and just say it's time to go home. And no they didn't they absolutely didn't and i'm not surprised because you want to win the stanley cup. And it's what you're there for but this is such an unusual and difficult year and we are seeing examples of it apparently in the nba in the nhl. Where i think that once you get down like the carolina tonight had every reason to lose that game. They were up two nothing. They did the worst thing you can do with tamp. They gave them power. Plays the lightning score. They get that call on hamilton. They kill it off and they went into overtime and there are three guys down okay. They had every excuse to say were done here. And they and great credit to them. I think the level of competition of the players. This year has especially in the playoffs. Maybe i shouldn't be surprised by. I'm obviously impressed and very respectful. It's been a remarkable. You mentioned the plays in great and the it's going to sound weird because we're dealing with or it's just eloquently talked about it. How no one's quitting in a season where we're given everyone many passes as possible. Take care of yourself do which you need if you feel. You don't wanna do this anymore. Don't do this anymore either as an individual or collectively no one's licking the envelope a maleness in. Nope no one's saying were done. It's been real good. Yup all rights with that will kick it off. And now you'll hear the very well produced part of the podcast. Welcome to thirty one thoughts. The podcast presented by the gmc. Sierra a four cast is over thanks for joining us once again on thirty. One thoughts of podcasts. Always great to have you aboard We will get to the toronto maple leafs here in a couple of moments and their collapse against montreal canadian's and what happened and what will happen next Leaf land in the meantime elliott a couple of bits of news. One congratulations buffalo sabres Winners of the draft lottery they will select first overall owen. Power university of michigan looks to be the guy but things happen and probably will happen between now and the draft Thoughts on what's happening with the sabres right now with the end of all this. You get a little bit of good news. They win the nhl lottery. But maybe the bigger story right now for the immediate future. Buffalo sabres is what's happening with jack eichel. Well i'll tell you this one of the things that was really interesting to me. was i. should say also talked about coaches and they talked about european coaches. That says to me. They've interviewed ricard. Bromberg previous podcast guest has in bergman interview by a couple of different teams or having some teams expressed interest in grundberg before. Yes i think. Buffalo was one of them when they hired. Ralph krueger k. But the thing. Kevin adams confirmed that they still are not comfortable with eagles process. He confirmed that the twelve week period is over which was ended. Last sunday may thirtieth and they're going to meet with eichel to talk about the next steps. Does it not interest you. Jeff that that meeting appears to be after the draft lottery is set in what way well now they know where. Everybody's sands now. The newer everybody stands and they hold the first overall draft pick which allows them certain luxuries. Is that what you're getting at here. Well i just think that before when you were talking about teams who are maybe out of the playoffs and you were talking about a first rounder. You knew it only conceptually right right now you know where everybody's actually picking Okay case i see what you're getting at so if you're doing a deal with let's say for sake of argument the new jersey devils you know that you looking at pick number four or if you're doing something with the los angeles kings you looking at pick number eight. That's what you're getting at. Yes that makes sense. Okay so that is. That is injury. But i don't think that anybody thought that if anything's going to happen cycle l- it would happen quickly or the conversations would happen quickly. Do to me. One of the interesting things about this is these sabres has spoken to the league about what their rights are and i do think that eichel. His agents spoken to the players association about what their rights are. My personal opinion is that whatever eichel decides to do it's going to be in conjunction with the next team. That acquires them. Okay so what. You're getting add. This is almost like a mulder. Scully thing wait a minute. Are you trying to say that. So what you're saying is essentially any team that's making a move for jiji. Goal has to be cool with his decision on how to handle this injury namely the surgery. Yes i do like. I'll tell you that in the aftermath of some of the stuff that we we've reported on. Michael i've had some teams a reach out to me to say. Is there anything else you know that hasn't been written and the answer is not really. I think i put everything out there. That i knew about so i think these teams are doing their research. I think they really want to understand what they're dealing with here. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if the sabers answer to this potentially is to punt the situation into another team i mean given your conversations with teams around the nhl. Those that would be interested in jack eichel because this is the type of procedure that i would imagine. Buffalo is not in the minority on teams. That are skeptical or at least cautious. About how much do you think this would limit the field for any type of jack eichel trade because again to reiterate what you just said any team getting him has to be cool with how he handles this injury. Yes how much does that. Limit the field. The think like if you're undecided say for sake of argument because it could be a fit the new york rangers. Do we know how the new york rangers feel about this. Ditto for the los angeles kings any team. That would be interested saint louis blues because this isn't done in the nhl. Do you have any type of idea about whether these teams are cool with it or not. I don't yet. I think they're uncertain. I think they're trying to do their research at what i suspect that all these teams are doing is a asking their doctors. Would they think and be asking their doctors to find out who's suggesting this and why it could work and how it could work all these players now like when to virus got hurt one of the things. We're all reporting wise. Any return is going to be in conjunction with toronto's medical team and to virus own medical team right. Because everybody knows now that it's not just the team it's also. The player has their own care. Connor mcdavid coming back from his knee. Injury the others were not sure about that path but they put their faith in mcdavid people. Sidney crosby coming back from his concussions did some things with a chiropractor s that a lot of medical professionals didn't like and i was very heavily criticized by some doctors for doing a story on that procedure and my reaction was look at sidney. Crosby believes in this. I don't care if you like it or not. It's a story. So i think what they're trying to do is get the lay of the land to figure out what exactly is going on here. I think the other thing is i think these teams are also asking if eichel get traded. Is he willing to bend to a new team because he's willing to wants to make a good impression with the new team like if the doctors say no we think you can do. This will say. Well it's a new team. So maybe i'll try to start the relationship on a different footing. It's clear that there's a clear lack of trust between savers right now. There's a lot of different variables here but that's why. I believe that the most likely outcome is yeah. Whoever acquires them plays a significant role in helping decide. What the next steps are. I wonder if this could happen and again. This is me talking. Nobody's telling me this. I wonder if this is a deal. That happened sooner. Rather than later for that reason. Well and i wondered too then considering like someone's going to take risk here. Yes we know this headed towards a deal. Someone is taking risk either. The buffalo sabres. They wait this thing out are taking risk or the team. That acquires jagai goal is taking risk. Does that then. In your estimation shrink the amount of assets you have to pay for jackal because now there's risk associated here. Sure he getting jack eichel but there's a huge but attached to this now. I think that that's all part of the negotiation. I do to me. The price for acl is determined by how many people are in it right always. Yeah you just need to to bid against each other for sure. I think in theory question. You're asking there is a good one. The other thing i'm wondering here is do the sabers allow teams to talk tikal about this. Will they open it up to say well first of all play tamper with anyway but sir i know in the nhl sir. The all probably tamper with him anyway. But you know this is going to say teams. Okay you have permission to talk to him about lightens talking about here right really quick. You have a quick thought or maybe just note it and move on but the buffalo sabres winning the draft lottery we talk about teams that need a shot in the arm after challenging seasons. Is there a bigger one than buffalo right now. Do you think they take power. You know your prospects. He seems to be consensus guy. And you know playing you know where he's playing right now like he seems to be the guy obviously but again. There are some teams. I know that there's a lot of teams that well that you eighteen opened up a lot of is as well like i think players like brand clark moved themselves up. There's a few mapping years. Like even though just got dinged the world championships. There's a few but the one. That's sort of been stem to stern here on on most of the charts is on power. Okay so i agree with you. It sounds to me like he's the guy the one thing that makes me crazy is when people say the savers already have a lot of defenseman like who cares. Oh my god drive the best player and deal with at all. I've always told you that. The example that i always come back to his chris pronger example at his draft year when he spoke to san jose. And they said well you know. We're not going to draft you. We've already got you know wrath rathjen ragnarsson. We don't need another big defense. Just passed up from the best defenseman the generation. Let's just go galaxy this. Someone said to me you have to stop seeing galaxy bring you. It's your new favorite saying. Stop singing the phrase galaxy brain but that would be galaxy. Yes so far on the podcast. You failed at that. And congratulations by the way to seattle will end up selecting Second overall so There'll be big winners in this one as well more and we should get what we will. We'll get san costantino. Here are Li draft analyst. It's worse than on to talk about some of the players and what this all means in advance of the nhl draft names that we're hearing out there for teams that are eliminated. How much rate now should we be paying attention to these saint louis blues elliott's i think a lot because i think they've got a general manager who's not afraid. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I think that you know he'll be a guy that we'll be looking to do some things you know another name. I'm starting to hear a bit more as vince. Stein don was injured unable to play during the play offs. I think they were points during the season. Where don was available and i think there were times where people thought something was going to happen but i do believe the blues are looking at that right now and i think some teams are interested. So that's one name. I'd wanna look at but i just think the doug armstrong is generally a pretty fearless guy and he will be unafraid to do what he thinks is right. Yeah i'm. I'm pretty sure that at various points to vince on himself thought that he was you know on the on the verge of being traded like home for home for christmas Where are you going after the break vince. I'm not sure. I'm probably pretty sure that various points vince on felt like this about About himself so that she talked about it before. Every time trades get mentioned was saint. Louis is named seems to be popping up so we shouldn't be too surprised at that. You have a quick thought on rick talk and having a second interview with the rangers. Well i think he's going to be a candidate in a few places. He's at a second interview with the rangers. Second interview interview with seattle and a second interview with columbus. I think it just shows that talk has a great reputation. People really respect them. People really like him. he's gonna end up somewhere. And i'm curious to see what happens with galant team. Canada gets back to. It's seems like it and galon very serious in new york. We'll see where that goes but talk. It has a hugely positive reputation around the league. You know he's he's got a lot of people have a lot of time for its truth and now we should park some time here to talk about the maple. A lot has been said a lot has been written. We've had a couple days to digest analyze. What's happened here from the players. Hear from dubus here from shannahan as we record this. What are your thoughts on. What we saw in the series were we heard from the players and management. And what's next. This question gives me a chance. Now to put my feet up for about fifteen minutes. Homeboy we go go. Cook a burr veggie burger. Make yourself a shirley temple. Quick little protein shake million noon. Free here we go. So let's okay. Let's take it one by one. Here in your estimation what happened in this series first of all congrats montreal and look. They won fair and square. No none of this all hundred percent marvelous job marvelous job by everybody on that team in that organization full credit to the haves and we'll talk about montreal when they go out this way but they haven't gone out. Toronto has what happened in that series up three to one so number one the to terrible starts in games five and six game five down three nothing game six down to nothing and game six. They could have been down ten. Nothing if it wasn't for campbell the same game seven as well. Well where normally a game seven all get to in his game seven is its own different story. I'll i'll get to game seven. Drop me no game. Seven is a different story. Game five down three. Nothing fought back out of a shift in overtime. I really thought toronto is going to win the series in game five overtime when we got there but they add to give away and the give it away to the two worst players to give it away to suzuki and caufield who who made it work game six. They were bad. They fought back to tie. It probably should have won in overtime and got game seven five minutes into that game. I didn't think there was any chance they were going to win. They were beaten that night before they hit the ice with twenty twenty hindsight game seven. That was montreal. Knowing it was going to win and toronto praying it was gonna find a way and when they talk about killer instinct. Shanahan kief dubus. That's the game to me. they're talking about. I don't think they're talking about game five even though they started poorly. I don't think there is much talking about game. Six even though they started poorly talking about game seven because they were never in it they were never in it. They you could tell. They thought they were going to lose and montreal thought that they were going to win. And here's the thing. I've said this many times. I think you bet on talent. I understand why they're keeping the big four or at least talking like they're going to i think trading monir is crazy. Show me a trade. You're going to win from arner and again people bring up okay. Tampa playoff series before they got embarrassed by columbus washington one series before they finally broke through. Yes they did to me. It's almost like it doesn't matter. They were still work considered failures. Who would never win. And you know. I think you bet on talent. That's the way. I'm always going to be now. What i think is going to happen. I think this. I think they are going to identify the kind of player that they need. And whether it's a goalie or a defenseman. I suspect it'll be a goal era de they already have a lot of forwards. Maybe it's a forward and they are going to target that player or those players and they are going to say. What do we have to do to get this player in. How can we make it work. I got a call this morning. We're taping this on thursday. I got a call this morning from someone told me that dubious was talking about some things around the deadline that he couldn't get done because it just didn't work. Well now you've got your ten percent summer cushion and everybody is going to be talking about making moves. And i said what are we talking about here and the guy goes to me. I'm not doing all of your work for you. You gotta do work here but what that says to me is. The dubious was looking at some things that he said. I can't do right now. And he's going to revisit them. I guess so what i think. We're talking about here. Is them identifying who they need and how they get them. And i don't necessarily believe they're going to split up their big four. I do think they're going to try to come back with it. But that doesn't mean that. Das can't find another bomb to drop. I think he's going to try to do something where he brings in a significant person who alters. No i'm thinking about. But i don't know who that guy is like when montreal traded for wa or colorado trade for wa they demanded mike. Keenan the deal right. Like who's that prick. Who's a very popular teammate. Who changes your attitude around you. And he was a good player. Who's that person who's goalie or who's that d. Or who's that forward that changes you in that way. Who's a good player. They're not just going to bring in the he's good in the room. Hey they don't flood the dressing room guy. they're not going to bring in that dude That's one thing. Went over the maple leafs. I think it's going to be a significant swing that they're going to try to make on that kind of a player that would be free agent or that would be trade. Could be either or that. Could be offer sheet off. Gotta get it out there. I have to check and see what toronto's offer sheets by the way. Those thresholds are gonna low this year. It's going to be interesting. But i know i i will say this that. I do think they're gonna look for the best possible player of what they don't have and how they bring them in so the question then becomes. How are you gonna fit said player in. If you're bringing back zach hyman. Why think that's one of the first questions is he's going to have a decision to make. I think people are the lineup. And say okay. They're not going to bring back frederik anderson and that money's gonna go to zakheim and that simple free each no because i think that i think is going to have to make a decision and that is how much is he willing to leave on the table. There's going to be teams out there. That want him and they know they're going to have to significantly outbid toronto. I don't profess to be in hymens head like we all know the story. I think he wants to be here. Of course now. I think it just comes down to how he feels a. They can't bid some of the other teams out there. That are gonna want them. How riskier the in the golden market. Do you think they've kicked tires before. Yeah again i think it comes down to or they look for a guy to play thirty games. They looking for to challenge the number one job. See to me. It feels like and again. I've made this point before. I generally don't make up my mind about a goaltender till i see one hundred games on each shooter has about two or three looks at our goalie and you start to get a book written About a goalies tendencies. But the regular season performance the playoff performance. Where as much as carry price dominated the headlines. Najat campbell was really good here. I wonder if the maple leafs think they have a legit number one guy the one that they were hoping for when they made the clifford deal and i think we talked about this on the podcast. Were clifford was the headline of the deal. They're bringing in some toughness. You wondered if in the back of their minds. they said didn't work in dallas wasn't going to work behind quick in la. We may have someone who can play at least some significant time for us if not challenge for number one spot. So i don't know i don't know throat. They're looking for a number one or just someone to plays. You mentioned thirty games for the team. Look i think for the most part this year. He did a really great job. You know the world funny place. It's not often if you make a mistake. It's it's winner. how you make it. And i think it's gonna come down to how dubus views that game seven goal gallagher as his series all strikes. I can like you see so often. It's an offensive zone turnover right at the offense a blue line here martyrs ticking off. It's got a chance. What a great skip terrify. Stalled to turn back the other way. Was it a bad play. That just happened to happen there or was it a bad play at happen there and i can't trust it won't happen there again to me. That's what that comes down to. So that's the gallagher goal. You're talking about the one nothing goal. So it's the martyr turnover at the haves blue line and it's a goal that every goal tender will tell you you gotta have and it's through the legs so psychologically the puck went through you not around. You know how that affects goaltenders. It's funny you mention that. Because jack campbell in his zoom call with though prompting about the goal at all brought it up early the biggest takeaway is just you know to win in the playoffs i gotta be dialed every game and I guess like one goal doesn't necessarily make the radio series but just trying to figure out how to eliminate that from a game and Just getting better. But overall i think it was a great learning last sin But i know it can be a lot better and i will be like you can tell he's hanging onto that goal now mind you. It's just a couple of days later. She understand you know why. It's still fresh in his memory but you know even a couple days later he a completely unprompted brings up that goal. The gallagher goal early. It's haunting him. Yeah and i understand that you know you're going to have to think about that all summer and the other thing too is like i've been there jeff. I know what it's like to make a big mistake on a big stage. You don't think about it for yourself. It's not a boat you if it's just you and a vacuum or whatever but you think about you look around at all your teammates and you think about holy smokes like i feel i let those guys down and they probably don't think that they're probably looking at their the own mistakes that they made or other things that they didn't do if you have any kind of care of teammates which jack campbell clearly does. That's all you think about you. Don't think about how it affects you. You think about how it affects the people around you and that's why it stings like the mistakes that only affect me. Those aren't the ones i care about. I can deal with it. I'm a big boy. I deal with the stuff where i make my coworkers. Look bad or my family is affected. Those are the ones that got you. It's not that he feels bad from self. He's dying inside. Because he says god dammit. That's first goal of game seven. I totally understand. I don't worry about that. I just the only thing i worry about is by the time next season starts is he going to be still obsessing about that or we're going to be moving another direction but i don't worry about that right now. I by the way you one thing i was when i was rambling there martyr. That's what i want to get here to like. Do you see a trade where they can win with him. I'm taking outset jones. Because i don't think he's signing here. Long-term i don't know what's available like there are players that you would trade for mitch. Monitor their available now. This is a podcast but we make up stuff. Don't limit yourself by who might be available. Let's just say if they actually wanted trademarks. Okay okay. you're not just waiting to see who's available you're going to other teams and you're saying we consider doing this. How do you feel about that So who are those guys. Young defensemen charlie mcevoy. Okay do you think you could get mcevoy from our. I don't think so. No i agree with you on that. I don't think. I don't think boston does that. Okay but you know what i think. That's a great example. Like that's the magnitude of what we're talking about and as much as china may want to entertain that there's no indication that anyone i'm just using bob. I'm not saying these conversation but just use it as part of the conversation. There's no indication in these teams. Wanna do that just to bring in martin. I think at least that you're making a mac. At least you're making a sensible arguments like i was. I was on radio in nashville nashville. Every thursday and they said that Some of the predators hockey fans are saying. Let's off or ryan ellison and viktor arvidsson for martyr and knowing to ellison arvidsson is thirty. Arvidsson closed at thirty th. That's not happening. Because i said david poile should be arrested if he gets if he gets that. But the thing about the marna situation. Let's flip it. Because for the first time in mitch mariners career. He did hear it during his contract. Negotiations like there was a groundswell of. Hey you're the local boy just signed with the maple leafs. What you've dreamed about blah blah blah blah blah blah blah but. It seems as if he's the pinata right. Now for maple leafs fans and you know. I was talking to someone this morning. Brought the point that you know if he would have taken less sustained toronto and sold the. I'm taking last to keep this team together. Because i want to be here at cetera et cetera et cetera. You wonder how much of a softer landing mitch monitor gets in a situation like this. But he didn't and like full credit to monitor his camp is agent. Everybody that's what the group is supposed to do. Maximize your compensation etc and we all get that. But with that comes expectation. Yep and if you can't sell the way my guy took less to try to make all of this work we just went for the number and you got it. That's great but now there's expectation on you and now in this situation there is failure. Andy can deal with failure. One of two ways you can grow you can wilt. You can swinger. You can hang. Take your pick. One of one of two things is going to happen. You're with mitch martyr. I know that zoom call. Things didn't go great and the feedback wasn't great and how it was received wasn't great and probably didn't do himself favors but the nerves are outside the skin on marna right now. I'm not suggesting that he's going to do this. But what a surprise you if martyrs said. I don't know if i wanna do this year. Because for the first time really he's getting it from everywhere elliott's over. I think this is a very very good conversation. You've brought up as a matter of fact. If i was anthony stuart and justin born i would say. Why don't you bring up questions this good when you do hockey central you bring out the best in me. And by the way everyone. That's carney for elliot. Patting himself on the back right there. Oh that's solely mike. I honestly think that that is a great question. Because i have thought about this so i'm very careful about the way i deal with social media during the playoffs i really try. Shut myself down and just concentrate because you're working every day and it's expected but it's tough to miss a lot of the reaction to what monir said the other day people are like. He's he doesn't sound like he really understands how poorly he played. Or he's blaming everything else. I don't see that. What i see is a guy who feels like. He's under siege. Yup they lose and the next day a story comes out that he selfishly refuses to move anywhere on the power play. Okay and you know. He calls that a lie. Yeah it's a complete lie. So that's like i said i deleted also show so i haven't seen anything sat or anything but Agent called me and told me about that. And i don't know who put that story out there but it's i mean just people trying to get their name out there in china made himself. I guess notable and it's It's unfortunate but that's the world we live in nowadays of people on social media trying to you know make Make someone else look bad and play any wrong tyres Played our planet. I care i just. Everyone wants to win here. Sits a complete lion and sucks stuff like that's being said but not surprised either at the same time so it's a complete lie though and i think everyone see again. Try and play any role. I helped his team win and trying to do it all year long and can't really do anything about it. Just let that story do whatever it wants and who cares you know then comes a thing that he went golfing. yes on tuesday afternoon and it gets thrown all over the internet. And he's like that's not true so you're under seeds like a. You saw what looked like during the series. He was cracking because he was so disappointed at the way it was going and he was fre. It's the same thing we thought it will campbell. He's seeing how he's letting down his teammates. He feels that anyway and he's cracking and then comes all this and you know i do want to talk about that story a little bit more in a second but so he's lashing out he's looking at this saying everybody's out to get me like don't they see how much i care about this. And don't they see how much i was struggling. Because i feel it slipping away and i felt responsible. So when monitor says what he says. I don't look at that as a guy who says who's trying to avoid blame. I see a guy who's lashing out. Because he feels he's getting picked apart. He's being defiant. he's trying to defend himself to me. Talk is cheap. It's all about how he comes back next year. The one thing. I completely agree with you about jeff. Is that all the contract stuff. It warps people's minds. They forget about it until they remember it right and they remember it at this time so yes i think i think. He has to stop worrying about endorsement deals. I think he has to stop worrying about white people. Think like there comes a phasing. Your life were. You've got to be kind of a prick you have to be nice to people and you have to treat people well but you have to say you know what i can only care about. What a limited amount of people think. I have to shot the rest of the world out. I have to cut down the amount of voices. Mitch monitors at that point. No more social media no more worrying about endorsements josh go out there and play play and also you have to simply say you have to get that mentality of. I'm polite but firm. I can be a nice person. I can treat people really well. He does a lot of private charitable stuff and he's very good at it but when he's on the ice and when the game starts i will kill you to win this game. And that's the mentality you have to have. And i think he has to commit himself to that mentality and i think he'll be fine now. I want to talk with the story a little bit so the story came out and i don't have any problem with the report. I think that if you someone you trust tells you that and you believe it. I've been in those shoes reporter before. If it's someone you trust you go with it. I reached out to monitor that day. It came out. I got called back from an intermediary denied it. Obviously he denied it so again. If you're the reporter and you believe your source you believe your source you have to deal with the follow but you believe your source and i don't like when reporters trash other reporters for whatever reason i think too often. Someone comes up with a story and other reporters just dump on that story because we can be jealous of each other sometime. I don't like that the thing that i looked at that report weirdly about. Why is the timing. Basically the maple leafs have just lost and it's a crushing defeat. And this story is getting out if i ran the organization. I would be outraged at that like i. Just don't like it when someone gets fired or somebody gets traded and all these things just start coming out and you trash someone on their way out. So i really try to avoid that and sometimes it's a really delicate dance because you know trying to explain why something may have happened and i always try to be careful jeff about how i frame it because the day i get fired or the day i quit. I don't want people coming out and saying these were all the terrible things elliott. Friedman did here. Because i think if you've got a problem you know say it to my face just you know i won't be source on any of it. I'll just come and say you'll see like i look at that story and i'm like somebody gave up that story. Somebody was the source for that story on the day that they lose and the organization is in its most pain like you heard shanahan. The first thing he did was he apologized to the fans. Before i t questions i just want to make a few points i wanna. I wanna talk directly to our fans. We understand the disappointment that everybody feels year in year out the support that we get from. You is so vitally important so appreciated by us in the team. In every year this year in particular with the restrictions that are going on on around the world What specifically here on -tario in toronto. We really wanted to be a beacon of happiness for you We wanna do that for you. Every year But certainly this year was even more important for the players. So starting with me and kyle dubus our management staff coaching staff and all of our players We take responsibility for disappointing. You let you down and not getting the job done. He spent like three four minutes talking to the fans to kick off his media. Ville he apologized the like they feel the same thing the fans do they like. We were so good this year and we didn't have to play tampa. We didn't have to play boston. Like they are thinking the exact same thing that you are and they lost so they're in pain and someone is the source for that like. If i was dubus i would be furious over that. Because now you've really create a problem because now martyrs thinking that somebody in the organization is out to get me Now i will say this and again. This is why i understand. You know the report. If i was given that information i would be like okay. I've got to try to confirm this. And if this is a big deal you've got to work on it. But i also try to look at it from other points of view like batman who benefits. Somebody gave that out to protect themselves. Monir is core cornerstone player. And he's going to be wondering who in this organization is out to get me. That's a problem. Yeah the last thing nine just went on for like twenty minutes so no no. This is no but that's true of. That's true of anybody in herrera's asian but for someone like michener. I don't know that right now for his good that he should be looking to try to find who the enemy is like to me. If you're the maple believe and you're committed to michener this team Michener taking the next step in his career. Mitch monir figuring out how to be a consistent playoff performer. If i'm the maple leafs organization all i wanna do is remove all the noise around marne all of it and just have him focused on being hockey players. I'm with you if i'm dube semi-annual in this organization livid i'm livid about this because don't you think it is goal number one for toronto and monir to get rid of all the sounds around him. Yes make no mistake about it. Going back to when he played for the von kings okay in the g. t. h. l. There's always been noise around. Monir yes everywhere. He's gone he's grown up in an to a certain point. Where like there's only so much you can take now is some of its self inflicted. Well of course why. I think that the team has to tell her. You've gotta shutdown that noise around you to everybody does. But this is what he's always grown up with. This has always been around him. That's why to your point trying to find out who you know. The enemy inside is is so detrimental for way needs to go as a player. you know. that's a very fair. That's a very fair point. I give he's gonna get anywhere in his career being a playoff performer. This chase for people to blame rightly or wrongly and this one. Listen if i'm mitch martyr. I'm pissed off to hussein this internally about me i get that and maybe this just comes with and we heard a lot of this in the exit interviews from the players zoom calls. He talked about you. Know the mental game and the mental barriers. And all of that. I think a lot of this is between the ears for everybody and that starts michener. I really do the history of the. Nhl is littered with skilled players at figured out the playoffs. Pick any era any team. That was successful. There was the guy whether it's is whether it's ovechkin whether it's whomever every successful team has quote unquote the guy. No one could figure it out figuring it out for toronto. let's smarter. I'm betting on them. Okay take us out is cubs. Refrain synth rock deal. That's been part of the toronto music scene. Since two thousand fifteen there single lady lake comes on june twenty fifth and was recently featured in the series finale of the canyons. Sitcom kim's convenience here with never enough is cubs. Reframe thoughts known a matt. Data is sad.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 275: Featuring James Wisniewski + Richard Jefferson

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 275: Featuring James Wisniewski + Richard Jefferson

"And. and. Everybody wants to episode two hundred and seventy-five of spin chicks presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here on the Barstool sports podcast family. What has gone on gang. Hope you enjoyed Monday. Surprise episode even visits. Boil it the night before, but let's check in with the gang first before we get to the big news gone on the NHL. Let's go to you first as you call surprise episode twelve hours before it was a surprise. I got dunked on twitter, but boys. This is. This is unfortunate because we talked about it a few episodes ago, and or maybe it was last episode, regarding the Eichel situation and and some crazy things have transpired, so we'll talk about it right after you get done with the intros and I mean it's kind of it's. Like you got fired. Walk I think half the FUCKING NHL off. You've seen the numbers. Yeah, quite a bit. That was the voice of Ryan Whitney Dog. What's going on you a you? Guys. Some days you're in a great frigging mood and right now. That's me and I couldn't be more pleased to be here and now does that happened? Monday getting into the mass am and then today getting into the new, England m maybe. Into that later, so for people who've asked they want the golf talk. They want the golf talk. I'm speaking to you guys out there for people who say I hate the golf talk I hate golf talk. GET OUTTA my face and you're just going to tune in at the end of this episode. We got our show and then I might be going hole by hole for two friggin rounds. Because I'm an absolute narcissist and I WANNA listen to myself speak about golf. Okay so you go next up. Producer Mike G. let's go on guy. What's going on? Boys dropped a new spin chocolates cartoon today. storytime was speaking. Our Youtube page. It's John Brophy Brendon Walsh telling the story, so go check it out there. I Walsh you'll probably get his own frigging cartoon after this one should probably already have on anyways. The News you alluded jewel three weeks after the Buffalo Sabres Zone said he was safe. The team phya general manager. Jason Botterill after three seasons, but that was how the IT. This is basically a purge. As twenty one others also lost their jobs per tsn. Frank Sarah Valley Bottles Assistant. GM Steve Greeley from Massachusetts Randy sexton also fired director of Amateur Scouting Ryan. Jankowski and a good chunk of the was also fired scouting with twenty one people down to seven. They also had the GM coach and assistance in Rochester their a GEL team bottle was replaced by Kevin Adams was GM of the teams practice facility in Senior Vice President of Business Administration and per Sarah Valley. He has. Zero high level hockey operations, many managerial experience and quo. I've never seen this. Many people lose their job in one day I. Don't think any team Biz. which are initial reaction Bella? Why I was sad for them, because I thought that they would get a chance to rectify. Maybe some of the mistakes they've made along the way, and personally I think they should've gave them an opportunity to do so I mean the peculiar. Get bought fucking soft treatment three weeks ago. He's got you know. They say he's safe and and can maybe make some moves and keep in mind. This is one of the teams in the League. If I would assume they have the highest cap space, available mind you do have to sign a lot of guys and I do have some notes written down. They have forty million salary commitment next season. That's thirty four point four eight. In space that's available and that's going off the eighty one and a half million that I think that it's going to be at and I mean. Another thing, too. That I saw that was crazy. On the day that the NHL Stop Buffalo is supposed to play Montreal. Flow had won that game in regulation. They'd be playing in the twenty four team playoff, so you I don't know if they if they actually squeak in there. Is You know all those people fired? I think looking back. To to bottle. I don't the Rhino. Riley trades going to bite him in the ASS, and it looks more like the Joe Thornton trae looking back on it. Do they have any anything still in the organization that they gain in assets from that trade I'm looking fellow advice about going because we know member Bergelin retired. Couple of picks, and basically this look at the roster right now. There's nobody I don't believe that out. That's currently. Now it's. Exactly? What was available when they tried to shop him I know that O'Reilly spending the three years there had had not. Lived up to maybe expectations and provide what they want, but I think O'Reilly was very vocal about the fact that that three years they're basically sucked the life out of his career, and he just really wasn't enjoying himself, and he anyone to move on and go somewhere. We could win kind of like a similar tone to what what? Eichel's get into right now. Where he's just fed up and I mean right away when he got traded. You see the numbers. He's put up in Saint Louis. I mean. He was on on pace to to have the best two seasons of his career if you take. Based on seventy one games played this season, so that one came back to bite him in the ASS I don't know what I'm going to throw it over to you because there's a couple other things I have written down, but. It's it's just so hard because the head coach and the G. M. have to be on the same page in there's so much communication that has to happen in order to get to where you want to be as an organization to you know to be at the top league, and when you have this much turnover in every position, it's just all of a sudden. It's a new new path being taken, and it's just. You can't succeed when this is happening. It's impossible to have the. The game of musical chairs here and have any sort of stability or zero stability and expect to win. It was of like a perfect storm. I think that all came together. Because the quotes from I think it was Kim. puggle about bottles, not going anywhere and there are some fans that don't like him Blah Blah. Blah all right after that comes out and is talking about being fed up and you mentioned how. You know that's what what O'Reilly dealt with, and he was like I. Just don't want to be here anymore, so. Not only does want to be on a winning team. He's actually seen somebody. Go through what he is. Get Out of town and then win. It's a lot different. If you've actually witnessed something like that, go down so. Here's a thing. Bottle. That he from my time with him in Pittsburgh just a class guy like was he was he was. He treated every single person with respect I thought he was a really smart hockey when he was an unreal player, himself played in Michigan I think he dealt with some pretty bad concussions, but You look at what he ends up. Getting his in terms of a chance, and you can say sabres fans couldn't stand him while Tim Murray three years, and then boral gets three years, and it isn't long enough to give a GM to give a true chance knickebocker. It pays if you come in. You got your first two or three drafts, while at least give me five years to see how my draft and and my draft picks in any sort of trades, which right you mentioned the worst one. They'll riley one, but. In five years you can see how you've done. And how the how everything's trending right? It was like Lombardi in l.. A. I think he's six year. They won the Cup they got in the the eighth seed won the cup. If they don't even get in the playoffs, which could have happened or lose first round? He could have got fired, but they gave him the five six years, so it's just early and Steve Guerrillas. The Assistant GM who? who was let go as well along with so many others you guys bring up. I grew up to three young kids who went to high school together. We went to call together played it be using good friend and he'll land on his feet. I mean because I i. don't think that these guys were were. There were some tough moves made, but there was also a lot of moves made to at least try to make the team competitive better and. I I think that ballroom grill you'll be. We'll be fine and hopefully the rest of the people in the in the staff that were let go in the hockey department, but Kevin Adams by the way the new GM is. A congrats. You're the new GM you have no other people working on you and you actually have to call everyone and tell them they're fired. It's fucking brutal like. Sh- I watch these rules. They came in guys. They were they were God. Literally like wanted to name them. It was like Gula Laville, 'cause they build some apartments on Chippewa Street. While now you see what happens when you just run a a team completely mock. On regarding now, Rhino Riley, trade I think I think maybe the organization. They thought Casey. Middle Stat was going to be able to jump in that second line center role, and that has I think. Put a lot of pressure on him. crise spent half the year in the American Hockey League. We'll talk about hitting the reverse button there. Yeah gold accident. Trade Biz We said spoke. He was on long-term injury, but his contract expires this year, so he's all Dante. What's Tom Thompson? He's going to be a restricted free agent. After this season and the Kid Ryan, Johnson Thought Minnesota so yeah, the this currently, not a guy on that roster that they have for the Rhino Riley trait, and that's that's a gaping hole, but we did talk last week. We, what's the problem with this franchise? And again going back to that serve valley piece. The only connective tissues had ninety s at the playoffs is the ownership they've gone through six head coaches fourteen presidents three. GM's zero playoffs. They've lost money every year upwards of. Of, thirty million per season, some cases I mean this fucking teams were reboots in spider man. It just seems like they're not hiring the right people and putting the right people in red spots, so this might be a a totally bogus comment by me, but something that might be overlooked right now and might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Was this Lawrence polite and I hope I'm saying his name. Our Rights use me. He's advancement comes from Finland is twenty four years old right? So what happens is now is giving the league. League is going so young. A lot of these guys WANNA get paid out of their entry level deals, and especially, when you're having a stay in a place like maybe like buffalo and the team struggling. Some of these guys might think they have a little bit more leverage in negotiation. So what guys do now, not typically North Americans because I think most teams call their bluff, but they threaten to go back overseas while this kid threatened to go to the cage, l., and they tried to call his bluff. While what does he do? He signs. Signs a two year deal on the shell and that happened as as of as of late I don't think buffalo fans were too happy about that one I don't know what this kid provides I didn't watch him. Play much, so that's up for Buffalo. Fans, the message me and let me know, but once again there's another tough loss in a guy who they thought maybe was gonna come in and fill a role that they've lost in the cage. Also, it's just getting like really ugly as an organization and it's almost looks as if the. Incompetent, so maybe that's what what what has happened in the last three weeks in what has forced the pool is to make that decision, but overall you I mean you gotTa feel for Sabres? Fans as I mentioned. The good news is all that cap space. They have left, but buffalo being one of those teams we talk about. They have to overpay free agents in order to go there. You're dealing with a high taps tax bracket. It's not nice weather. You're not going to be winning a lot of games and going back to their roster. They have a four fords, one goalie and five decide on NHL Roster for. For Twenty, twenty one season RFA's as include Reinhard Cahoon Olafsson Lazar Thompson Middle Stat menteur that kid I just said in all mark, so they got like day of a fucking shit ton of work to do, and they got some holes to fill in order to get things back on track, and and the worst part about all of this is. They gotta do so very quickly because they have a lead player and Jack Eichel who's on the clock at this point. and. I'm a fan of tribal. No C. He can't stand for this much longer I mean. They got a year to figure it out and show some I. Sometimes, I wonder though the owners they own the bills to. Can you be successful owning two teams? Are you think of anyone who's own to really good teams I mean? Can you put your time and effort or you're not even need to. Am I reaching here now. If you have, the money should be able to hire the right people and put them in the right positions I mean. I can't think of one off the top of my head. I'm sure Oh, what's his name one fucking? Jack Kente Cook. Maybe going back. Yeah, the White Sox Ryan's. Jeff you'll be. Successful, it's just he's just. He's just ruin the ordination out of stupidity. Knock because he's overworking himself I guess in an owner. Isn't that hard work? You just sign the checks and show up with your air force ones if you craft. But it's also put people in the right position, and again I'm not trying to pick on Kevin Adams here, but you know it was point out. He's never been a general manager. He's been general manager of a practice facility. He's never done this for a team on a high level. And now he's in Schaja. That salary cap situation business described, and it's like if you'RE A. A. Fan man I want somebody with maybe a little bit more of a resume in that area I I wish the guy well I don't know I'm not wishing ill will on him, but his experience running a front office of the team it's it's almost non-existent now. He's in charge of the shoes project I. Don't know man. It's like a it's in a cast on the. The goal is tell you what if you move I? Call they better get way more of a return than they got varietal. Riley and I'm not listen. I'm not shitting on anyone here, I. Don't know the goals and I haven't really followed closely. What's been going on We mentioned botterill. He's been nothing but nice to me, and he had a tough situation to go into. Into, but guys when you're, you're in that type of organization, and you're the general manager, your number one focus given all the variables unique to spend a lot of money on scouts and a lot of money on development. Because if you don't home, grow it, you're going to have to overpay for those free agents and we all know how that works out in today's age. At pretty good way to end it actually, that's a great segue. Speaking of free agents body revoke. He got paid for another couple of years, vagus up two more years, three and a half Mil. That's one point seven five per year for Yvo a congrats the him in. He's a one of a kind I mean physicality because we've talked about it. Ad Nauseam on this show. It's decreasing fighting's decreased, but he still brings a presence that as well. Well, we're at the money spent I. Think I. Don't give a fuck. What you? What your fancy stats say well, and we were talking on the tickets upstream because he ended up playing against Nassar last night, and or two nights ago when this is released and he was talking about in junior, he wasn't much of a scrapper. His first scrap in junior hockey throughout his shoulder, did he not wit popped out his shoulder and he said just. subconsciously couldn't he couldn't get over like he was thinking I'm Gonna I'm GonNa do it again I'm going to do it again. And he said pain, the coach in Saint Louis, when he was down with him, in was appear Oria. He called him in at the end of the season. He says listen you WanNa play in the NHL. Rio was of course, and he said well. You're going to have to start fighting more to add that to your bag. Revolt was he's a solid player. And he added that to his game, and it's surprising to hear a guy go from being timid to fighting to now being probably the heavyweight champion of the League so Yeah Testament. What's up? How `bout he said. He was telling that story. Yeah so after paying told me that I went home that summer and all I did was box and work. I think it was boxing working out in the gym one of the other. you know he did want to take? He did what it took to to switch his game up and make it now. Guy Like that deserves that contract so happy for them. and. I, it's weird to think that. A guy like you said, who's that tough and that intimidating? Now had to be told to do that? That's how look unnatural this for some people, not that it was for him with I think it was more of the shoulder injury, but to be able to turn that on is not easy. We've talked about that before. And switching your game. Searching your game from a skill guide to third-line grinder is not even close to his difficult switching it into an enforcer fighting. Fighting Probably Twenty five thirty times at the beginning of his career in the minors I bet. Yeah, he actually talked about that series against Winnipeg when they were in the conference finals a few years back when they ended up beating them, and then going on to play Washington and he actually scored the game winner in in Winnipeg, and he talked about how important that was to come back into that series. Because at that point, he was a healthy scratch and that. He thinks propelled them in order to end up sticking around, and eventually lead to to him, continuing to play with the beggar school nights, and then he ended up score not in the Stanley Cup finals. Well, so I still think he's an extremely relevant player. I mentioned all the time. What a guy like that! Doesn't the Locker Room it for the lineup? He's very well liked by teammates. All his teammates are able to play. Play you know a few inches taller and more physical. Knowing that they got a guy like that tobacco, so congratulations to him. Are you transitioned it to a free agency thing? He was happy to get it done now because he didn't want to go into free agency and potentially not stick around place that he's key calls his home now. He just built a house in Vegas as well so congratulations real. We love you and. What else you got well, he won't have to travel fath- playoffs Biz per numerous reports to the surprise of Nobody Vegas is slated to be one of the hub cities for the playoffs. I mean I can't think of a better place to be cooped up in Vegas. I actually got stuck out there for like four days weather one time, but I was out of money I was out of everything was fucking miserable by. It looks like it looks like it's going to be one of the hub so good for good for in Vegas Man. I would definitely say they're one of the front runners I thought it was set in stone to somebody who's associated to league, and they say every every city that was being considered is still very much in. Play right now so very interesting to hear that so if you're one of the cities. Cities that was named as a hub city. you. You still have a chance. Yeah, Edmonds in Toronto Vancouver. The Canadian cities still eligible in addition Chicago Dallas Columbus Los Angeles in Hot Minneapolis. Saint Paul on Pittsburgh as well so yeah, it hasn't been confirmed by the League yet, but it's it's pretty much all but confirmed, but though a lot worse than that and I did you read article about with Shinsegi That you wrote about Judy Bennett. How play his basically kind of plan their pregnancies around the schedule. Now because they do that, the obvious their plans have gone awry. That's the fuck and half. Part about that is planning at Ra for the off season, but not only. Is there season now? These guys are not even supposed to see their families during this whole lockdown if they do continue. Yup definitely sucks, but I mean. It's like hey, I can either be home. And knock get this money. We were supposed to get, or I can go and then get that money that we're going to have the rest of our lives. I mean I. Don't know like it certainly is an ideal, but. I think it's I think it's kind of like. Just bad timing. What else can you say besides tough lock? You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, just one of those things not one planned on. I mean I don't even know how many guys WanNa play. I can't wait. That vote will have to be made public right. On when the players vote to play again, yeah. Yeah and they usually get leaked anyways, plus like Nick, said they. You know they don't know if an executive board vote like one per team, or he thinks it's going to be every play voting, so what if you get like four hundred to three hundred? That means more than almost half union doesn't WANNA. Fuck them play I'll say maybe not ideal for being. One of the CO host of a hockey podcast, but talk it hockey right now. Can you guys imagine hockey coming back anytime soon? It could not feel like more of the middle of the off season to me if it was actually going on. Maybe I'm creating. No, WE'RE GONNA. We're we're going back to being pessimist. The we're. We're riding the roller coaster right now. Just saying that it's just crazy to think that it would maybe back in a couple of weeks where you hear about the NBA and how they've created, you wants to stars. Only fuck you. Kyrie go start your own league. That guy is a clown. He is, but I love the NBA bubble stuff that's been coming out. They're gonNA anonymous SNITCH line for people. Up and then our our. Little rant there, they got a line. If the players are like outside of whether they're supposed to be, they got. They got a hotline where you can call them out. It's real easy for those guys like seven one. Hi, and not to stick out in the crowd. Men Imagine how many people to will call and rat these guys out. Yeah, the Toronto wines called the hotline blink. But yeah, they're going to have some amenities. There have a players lounge video games. The DJ sets movies. They're gonna Bob. His manicures pedicures like they all have that in their houses. ANYWAYS, they make thirty million a year. Listen the first families that staying all the hotel rooms have to those guys. CHECK OUT ARE GONNA. Get a contact high for about a week when the Disney. CEO. Takashi six, nine, six, nine Grenell, be called and Ratnamala. Rapper. Hey. Hey, boy's real. 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Up more items to get to here I I was introduced to Richard Jefferson by a friend here in Arizona and I just WANNA, stay off! Say out the hop here. We interviewed him before all this stuff went down, so if because we're not asking questions about. The recent events that have taken place guys I. Don't WanNa fucking here. Comments about it, please yeah, good point. Actually. That's a good point to bring up because I. You are here and the now. Shift I think we should send it over to Whiz right now. This is a fun so without further Ado James Joyce new ski you. Next patrol the Blue Line for six NHL teams over eleven seasons he played in over five hundred NHL Games and over seven hundred pro games. You want a gold medal with the US. At the two thousand four world junior championships in Helsinki, any rep, the good, old, red, white and blue. The twenty eight Olympics Jong Jang also spent some time in Russia and Germany they. He's enjoying a nice little red from his wine cellar. As he joins us here on the spitting chocolates podcast, welcome James was new ski or and quickly. Sorry, sorry I got a couple of things to add. He's known as the big was new ski hill. Tell you that Clothing line out there. WHIZ. Where at one point in time? Had An. Unreal. Handlebar Moustache at one point when he was younger or the one. That's like this. Strap you at the dirtiest? SPEND ONE TO Michigan store. Mascara Biz noon I've played against them in the Oh. Play together, you guys. Remember that Biz all. Yeah, he was a great defenseman. You played four years in Plymouth I was in Saginaw I was taking all minuses of the Yangyang. By ear, piece of Shit, you had a fucking bomb on Ya. Man Yeah the play in the shittiest city in the Oil Gel all watch your model to former captain that went back to a game this year to drop the potts town. Bro For free. You need like security to left the arena. You're not a chance. Brothers Mark People Sag Nasty. That's where it all started, but four years in Plymouth. How did you become such a suitcase Perot? bugsy. Eleven time. Reduction. Fingers started the pros and fifth fed. Rounder of in a leagues are mixing it up and they're like. Oh, she! You get an opportunity. You could actually play so I want a lot of money to my agent. Year I just started getting. Around I, think like I was like four teams on one calendar year. My understood eight year. Of, Anaheim and I unders- Montreal. been signed with Columbus Hamady Marriott rewards points of all I could say wherever I want for Free Mike Elite Matt Metal on the Delta Delta Plan and everything. It's fantastic. Like I always say that sixteen that wanted you. That's always that's right. Everybody wanted to teach them the WHIZ. That's what it is. I'm interested because I think we've had this discussion forums longtime ago. About what? What made you go to the Oh? L. I mean you chose that path at college wasn't for you I. Think I know a couple of reasons why the wisdom bigwigs new ski boat. How come you decided to go to the Oh? I was kind of trying to. Before, my senior decide if I want to play baseball or hockey. Scholarships for baseball, so this kind of and I had it in my Oh l. contract on play baseball, so it was like you know like some teams will be like fuck. You can't go to practice playoffs. I was like playoff practice right to baseball game. It was just a my contract is kind of one of those things and then. At under eighteen torme SEATTLE my drafting I I wasn't able to play my senior out one. It'd be double drafted and see see what happened and then. Also, apart on that'd be a nice one to have on the resume time. Exactly just kind of Oh yeah, also drafted in the eighty seventh round by the dodgers. Was You put on the pizza boy I think First Year Plymouth. You would all surprised by the success he had get in two different teams to the Stanley Cup. Final Nah honesty. He's one of my favorite coaches. Mike Lucci obviously. Deluge took over after Pete but He was unbelievable I. He gets the best about of all his players, and that's the one thing about him is that he keeps everybody fair keeps everybody accountable and knows how to kind of. because. We're all not fair. Let's be honest. I mean fourth line and first liner third pairing first pairings is not, but you feel. You feel like you're treated therapy and he gets the best people and people love playing for. I remember world. Juniors Halifax. You remember that experience yeah. The best we got to talk to to to once and I was like. I don't think you understand the mental toll. You put on me in the game replay. It was incredible I. Remember the there's this one shift. He dumped it in. I think I played a suitor and dumped it in, and you could just hear crowd just. Earlier you said you knew he's coming. You dislike crowd here. I'll be better, not pick up. that. He's just rummage through the fucking, wall, Mad Time that place is just bumping when when they're when they're applying. Here the next year though you actually were part though the gold medal team right? Yeah, yeah, we had that. When flurry knocked. Kober talk about. Patrick O'Sullivan got. Two Goals Day winner didn't touch the Fox Larry's. Your? Another Quebec peewee journey legends is the width to I went there. Yeah, I didn't win it though Oh, you want it wit. Yeah, we did. I've brought it up one other time on the podcast. It's cool to yeah. I was wondering when it would come up again one other time those days. Comore. Opponents say. Where's your bobby that bad back then to on no I was. I was I of taken. My body was just skinny, but now it skinny fat. You know what I mean even worse. Your skin hangs off a hanger. I wouldn't wear shorts if I had his body. I never take my shirt off anywhere. I remember one podcast she had changed on on the you talked about that hit all. Wanted to like Kinda get on and be like listen guys. There's two reasons why that happened for one. We're on the powerplay. Gay and it was like a one four and he tried to told Ya. Secondly people don't realize who my defense part was. If you buy me for sure scoring chance, it was you. You're might have caught. I wasn't on the ice for that I wasn't on the ice for that hit. Are you much bigger? Remember seeing it from the ice. From the bench and I just said Oh. My God, because the thing was don't never got hit like that. We talked about it. Then keep. Church. Song man himself key Kyi jellies flying out you all boy because I. Chuck them whereas I'll tell you this I. Don't think I've ever been more upset in a game. When seeing one of my teammates get hit when you when you did that. I was nearly jumping over the boards, and then I fought perilous right afterwards like. Not hit that you want to deliver, but like those are the emotions that go into your body when you hit, you hit someone's brother. Honestly that's a great point, because most of the time I never for myself, I could always somebody run me. Fox You crush me I. Don't care, but if somebody doesn't like you, said for your brother. It's like. You like all off all black out games go down because they know wires cross right. You're just like fuck you. I'M GONNA. Kill you if you do it to me whatever I probably. I I remember you were physical from like the first time we've ever played together sixty. You played hard, so it does make sense you to the. Oh, l.! Fighting right away was just kind of natural for you. Yeah, that's it had six or eight fights. My underage year in Plymouth Amana just kind of happened, and then I kind of stopped fighting for the most part after. All My ACL's. Yes, so tell people. How many how many times are you doing here is? Ridiculous number four I've had three I three. Am I right in that at all three by age twenty four, so then I was like what? I was trying to stay away from it. I had back to back years I was eighteen years old, and then I was twenty three. And then I got healthy, and that was the year I fought to to and I stepped on the stick during the fight in Chicago and you can st during the fight I. Lift my leg up and on. Fox I heard a big pop on like I'm staying to the bench and on my knee locks up around my mother fuck. I did it again, so get an MRI. They said it's only slightly torn while they're not going to tell you anything so then that summertime I tore my acl working out now. The third time and I was like honestly I can't do this anymore I want to make a living what play so then I kind of just slow down on the fighting, so then I have one. On my left knee when I was thirty two, my last year Carolina so for ACL's one scope of my stuff had four surgeries on my right. He's just a mental grind. Mets Man I would have to the third. I cried. I was like fuck like twenty four years old I. Just it was like sixteen months ago. Like I, had surgery started playing in I. Know I have to go back to that like I. Tell people my Theresa. I could give you rehab easy. I know all the fucking exercises. I know what you need to do. Range motion all that Shit, and it's time consuming thing, and it's just like you said a mental grind whether you want it or not, and you have to keep going. Keep going. Keep going so yeah. That was parking downtown. All right I want to ask you about Norfolk. You spent a couple years, do you were there with Duncan Keith? When he was twenty one was he already head and shoulders above everybody that his game still need a little bit of work at that stage. You know what don't was. Just very sporadic like he's just. His energy is through the roof. He's so fucking quick. It's unbelievable. There's nobody is quick center. Everything he does is quick, except eat is a slow seed world. It's crazy. But everything's is. So he would get dressed. We'd go out at what sixteen on the. We start to address at twenty one minutes five, so he's got five minutes to get fully dressed and so everything's. Glad. Transform Ready, but I'm telling everything like that, so go into the pros. Kind went like that, and then they just. It's kind of amazing how he really. Developed into. Maybe a future hall of Famer. Doubt L., we can't. We can't to trophies. I mean Shit what else do you want more easy staff? He's done it on the stack. I hear was. Also we're. We're not. GonNa. We're not just going to. It's over the fact quickly guys of. Duncan Keith along with the big Whiz. They used to roller clear tape roll tape on each ankle. These guys. How did that ever even begin? I don't like I got it from him. Because like he's so quick and I'm like. I WanNa, be quick. Maybe that's the that's. All he's got. He's got a scientifically done before. Yeah, so he would put up. The role. An ascend white taper black. You do three quarters of a roller tape on each foot. Say. So you're pretty much cast like to. One more question about that Norfolk team now wasn't that the team that the two goals absolutely fucking hated each other Craig innocent and Michael, eight, nor am I, or is it to other goals, wasn't those? They couldn't even be in the same room together, but they were tandem. Yes and I have no idea what you're talking about. Their friendly teammates. Okay, and I honestly don't know of any. I just remember previous. Guests said they couldn't stand each other so sometimes. When there's smoke, there's smoke. There's fire right you. Know. Our eight, that was the year that we had the fucking bench-clearing brawl against lull to ooh. Norfolk, against lull it was. I forgot their tough guys name bagel lefty. Fuck anyways. He grabbed Trent Yanni by the Thai when. Rollo resemble this or Joe Early exit his name. On, wit. I'm trying to think who it was, but he grabbed him by the tie. Just through the biggest left in just missed them. We had three quarters of the team on the ice or off the ice in our locker, because like in Norfolk used by the. Stupidest lay on the world you tape by visitors bench. They skate by yours, so we're standing by. He's Chirp into the retina and he grabs him in the only people on the ice for me Dan Amir in like two other guys, but we had just fucking crazy heavyweights. While that whole I mean what you remember back in the day I mean it was abnormal that five heavyweights like when people talking about heavyweights now like. Middleweight I. Guess Back in the day. I mean. We had first round. Mike Brown Beauty Sean, Thorton. Travis Moen and I'd say I was like our fifth. Maybe, but it was those four guys i Jesus Fuck Hey. That like how did Anaheim? St Steel? Him I don. Did Chicago never give him a chance. There's one of those things. Yeah exactly. But that was under the old or with like. I'm not going to say the name I guess by Mike Smith but I mean they're. They drafted like eight Russians in a row in the first round. Like nonstop. Orange for the black brea bad chuck. Dude. It's not working and then you find out that he's got his masters in Russian history your. Make Sense. By Kami. The Americans on create. EAGER EAGER GONNA. Have a column on this. Whole on, so you gotta go. Back to junior, I haven't asked the question awhile and I have to ask you about playing with Stephen Weiss. Oh Yeah I was gonna say we, but that's yeah. Wieser was. Event surprise me that he was the third overall pick. Little surprise. It didn't kind of take more I think if it. The game was more transferred to nowadays. Yeah, it would suited him better. But he had some quiet nasty years. He's dead, and then I'm telling You his vision and skill was unprecedented and it was. It was incredible. I mean. Like my underage year, we lost in the Oh L. Finals Ottawa. Now is one of those things, so we play on there. That place was fucking rowdy to like. On their team. They're a bunch of just. Ranch style breath yet. I'll. Biggest scumbag remember. To get him on the spot. This Guy Dom bag A. Band Horror Vancouver's Ben. Who on offense? But these guys had fucking playoff, beards, mountain and I sixteen years old. I got my fucking little Chinstrap. They were living like rockstars plant I wearing leather jackets all they were hooligans I mean it transferred to a? Plate at the pro level earth. His teams were always a bunch of bullies and I think he played in Norfolk at some point. I know we played in Syracuse and those I was. I was with them in a long island when we had kind of a shit show team head odd. Gillies Canal. Let's go and Michael Haley we had all those guys I. Mean I got ended up getting straight, and before that whole shit storm happened in Pittsburgh. Did you cross over with Joel Records at all? Joe, reckless of record, vacuuming alive. He's gotTA. Get him on at some point. I don't know I'm might have. Book DP Tro fucking absolute shredded. It'd be like gs man. The Men's health magazine make them flexes stomachs I was like all right. I got to get on the elliptical. A little bit more guys just absolutely shredded what? That guy. Would you apart of the same decoder as big buffer for a few years? How much of a trip was? He is a teammate. Honestly I'm. Kinda crazy other. than. My first year at Anaheim was a little bit different. All my other teams I played on, but connections were incredible. Anaheim was little little weird. I guess I. Don't know if the West Coast does that to you, but it was just very cliquey. But we're in Chicago I mean. Shall we say like Patty Cain was a year old when me Berge were single in Chicago. I almost feel a little bit responsible residual. My Dialogue Ladies Bouncing. He's with me. He's good. Come on in Batty. So, but I mean you had bursch Andrew Ladd Craig Adams. PERC- Baath couple handsome guy is to. They probably did all right for themselves in their heyday. Absolutely from big curry there tapes I mean it was non-sub. Dunk Seeds Myself I. Think we had Brian Campbell that Matt. Walker was a national. All my God. Ram. It was incredible. It was the best buff I mean it was. It was so eager on our team. We had the fucking team like all of us to go like twenty deep into a restaurant because we all love enjoyed hanging out. So. Heartbreaking to get traded from there. Did you kind of know it was common? Well that's one of the things as You know one you get kind of stuck in. Labeled as something right so again I was Kinda like. When I! It was weird the first full year. I was playing fourth line forward and I got I got in a fight with Travis Mon which he was one of my really good friends can we played with each other, so fought in that Adrian Aucoin blue, growing out for six weeks during the west coast trip. So then they paired me up with Duncan. Keith Immune Dunk were defense partners for fifty games. Until I tore my second. ACL and that's when they foot seabrook on. Because you would always tell like fuck Whiz, I love playing. have been you is I. Know could have been fucking me so I mean so. That's what happened, but anyways So recovering from all that ship, but we had I mean it was just an incredible team. When I started getting kind of. You know shot down like fifth offense men ghost cycle block shots all this shit on my naked play, a little bit embedded in this I'm a better so I kind of made a decision that was like I need to move on with my own career. Even though I kind of knew what we were when I was leaving, that's when we both got traded same year yet, and that was a fucking fun year. They'll end. Towards nasty to three play with three hall of famers like Legit I balance I. A Meyer in Salani knowing gets off while gets Perry by being the hall of fame. Exactly I mean it was like Shit Bobby Ryan Fuck unbe like. How How good was Hiller? Are we going to San Jose and beat them the first game all I god. Presidents Trophy winners, and they're like Oh. This is their year walks life in the first rapper by the eight see. That was the most part of the coolest. Well. I guess going. Cup final is great, but reminded eight. Eight to beat that SAN JOSE team gets off fought Thorton. We just shocked the world, and then we gave Detroit. We went to game seven. They they went. They went in. Pittsburgh beat him. Obviously. Thanks wet. Suck on that Kunitz. Team was loaded. On our, I interrupted you. There I know you're was died, and here's a fucking puck in the ribs and I coughing up blood on the ice. Ended up that Sukh one time our hosts house Jeez. Boy I know you. Never WanNa Norris Whiz, but how has your experience Randy Carlyle? Why Scotney Niemeyer in whip play with pronger, so it was. I mean unless you just blatantly your fault. I was fine I mean. I was GONNA say like Scotty. Wake the fuck up. I'm randy goes. Eight harm and Out of Zone, Scotty stated up the ice for me. Real quick, thank you I mean that guy was whitman like it wasn't created. Wear light grey shirt like just like a shirt like this. You're that movie sweat where it has the in the midst of your like that. That's what would be heaped. Like odd played thirty two minutes. We'll tired hair, completely dry, little sweat, play twenty, three. I'm just like. Twenty, seven, nauseous, twenty, one, Fifty, eight hundred. A CAKE! Muffins anymore in the way to the ring. Stop spending so much time on Goldenrod. STARBUCKS! What have you. Was We just saw Andrei. Markov officially retired of course he left the GEL couple of years ago. Played in Russia for help, you'd think he might have been perhaps the most underrated peer like he just quietly. Sixteen years was one of the best defense in the league. Yeah I would say one of the reasons for one. Like playing for the Yankees and never winning. You're so highly tout at as an organization, and then if nothing comes to fruition, it's kind of one of those things where. It really do it for them, but game in game I mean should I must've average high forty points me he was. Point six probably points a game. His whole career point six something. A sheet us on. The best thing you could say about them is that. Was a real physical, but neither was Nicholas. John Nicolas never hit a soul, but the thing is, he would play. He would shut down your first line and then have a goal and assist. You're like fuck you do that. Usually you can do one or two things like all right. You know you you. You shut down and then that's your job, and then you let your still guys try to go out and do that, but they do both like all I'm shut them down and then when it's my time to shine on a parkway. Fuck at what was he like off the ice? You love the nice restaurants like Russia wrestling. When I was there that was year. That Josh Georgia's an him both toward their acl. So. That's why they traded for me. Island maxed out on. ACL Stories I don't. The cabinet, you're the Kevin Bacon of Tornado ACL's. Through to their to fuck nine. Let's go. Because I have a buddy. I only know your stories by when you tell me between what ACL is like oh? That was between my third and my fourth, and you're all okay, so you're like twenty eight. 'cause I always tell these all thirty show anyway, so those guys were hurt, so they kinda rented me, and that's when they're kind of benching. PK Sue ban whatever and then those injuries happen I came on, and then our our play was pretty incredible, actually that platonic was a very underrated player to I. Don't know if he got enough credit for the two way other than his fucking Martine that he warlike Alexa Yasha. Give it to a lot. Too. Hot That I. Really a turtleneck like. The haves. You're pissing people off just by the way you look. So. Did you ever officially retired. You ever make an announcement I. Know some guys do some. Don't contracts are all cash out, so you don't hang on for that are that's hilarious that you say that because remember looking at my wife and Mike especially. Like how do I announce my retirement a? Retired. Maybe I'm still looking for creating jobs in the next year, but yeah I mean I'd never I never? Really. Nobody gives a fuck about the never ends the way you think it's to end. You can bring on chick. Book. Honestly you're right, man. It was like one of those things where bone. Injury got bought out. Went. To Tampa Bay training camp. When I went to Russia. Cop went to the miners went to Germany went Olympics gone outside? What can't walk just? Do. It have it so quick. You're just saying we can I not skate anymore. Yeah. What's this pock. Honestly I was like and then I coached women's Osu hockey this year on my this is Great I. Get back on the ice and like falling over I'm Kinda like. Girls are looking at me like Chris. I wasn't bad back in the day. Yeah I know I was doing my prep work. I was going I. Find You know most guys a lot of times. They released a statement through the union and stuff so I i. hopefully it scratch wounded. That for me you. Officially tonight. I wish it was yesterday on four twenty. Would have been way better. Four twenty was newsy officially retired, but you expect four twenty one. Eighty that I got to talk about a couple. A couple of the biggest fines NHL history you, don't you? Think my by the last one at one point was the biggest one in sports history other than. Getting teams like a Grand Prix like a Formula One team to get fined two million. That's not the driver. I had A. Two hundred thirty thousand dollars fine against St Brieuc. That soccer is one of my best friends and. At now this. Is The tax right after the game or would you walk over? Why try to kind of be like I? Mean back it up. The whole solar was. A hit like. Yeah. It was the here's the problem is one of my best friends. I was like to go down there and beat up. Somebody's GonNa hit? and. Unfortunately that turned into that, so I got eight games. Two hundred thirty thousand. Dollars a repeat offender. I had an incident with. Sean Avery that caused me to be a repeat. Offender might have been a gesture I. Guess you if. You. Live and you learn. Learn I mean we're not going to hammer on for. We know you've. Burned yeah, you're going. Say impact the bike in the wrong lane. Wait. The finebaum bets like so you'd have to make double that caused. Me So in taxes well that well, then I signed a six-year big contract. Free Columbus and we're like exhibition game in Calcutta in Minnesota Hammers Sutter to. Go over there like crush of knock him down. There's like ten seconds left. It's tied. I. WanNA fight. Because it's fucking, exhibition gives shit. That's the one thing they don't care about exhibition. Set. It sent a precedent, so something happened where you know. The play came, and I saw somebody come in court in my eyes, so I just went like that to try to protect myself and I. You know elbow to the head whatever he played on the power. Play no big deal a winning overtime I get. Four game regular season eight game. Four game pre season, eight game regular season, five, hundred thirty six thousand dollar fine. She? First Year Siam while I thought that was a good contract. Their own some of the. Play again should play a game that what would Ra do for that amount of money? is going to be our new segment. What could we? Are Eighty with whizzes five money. What was what was the gesture with avery with digging for? Ninety eight thousand all, so you're over a million a madame. Nine hundred and then I crush. Samuelson throat. Got Me a million two games for the Shane down on. You should be in prison, seriously I. I mean I think I have twenty three games, suspension or something like that? They will. Do you. You'll say you dirty player, or you say you play hard. I play to the nets. Thank you, thank you all right well. The thing is is that we always brought up like cut to the fundamental I'M GONNA. Take your head off. Don't do that now, they. Teach that the thing is that I don't care. If you that to me, I deserved it I'm not GonNa do it because I. Just I just know better, but. The thing about hockey is like what I hate. What's killing sports in my opinion going to get deep if you only get deep, what's killing sports? It's fucking instant replay. Replay replay a sport. That's a warrior sport just like football. You'RE GONNA. Say Oh, watch this hit ready and here. He got him into that. You think I'm fucking thinking back with it lasts. Like ship US guy's GonNa. Get around me I need to get a piece of them. I'm not thinking Auburn held I'm an elbow in the header hit him in the head I just don't want him to go by. That's the biggest thing in the when you sold things down. It's like a power this my favorite one bucket piece of shit coaches don't know anything about the game and they're like. See this right now. Hold on one more framework there. You see that lane. Play that and fuck in real time. The sticks going like this. What do you pause it when it's over there, you're like. You should the past it? There action of a second a fraction of a second. That's all the time that we have to make a decision. That's my like people will like. You have major league pitcher throwing a fucking nasty ninety three mile an hour slider guy swings adding you're like what? Do. So the confidence in your the conversation, you're kinda starting is. Are we tailoring the game away from what it should be an and we're kind of bending the bar too far, correct. We're turning into a fucking soft society. That's the problem fucking worry. I agree the me. DO WE OUGHTA? Have A fucking? You know a man. Bun In some fucking. Jeans up to my knees. Hey, less honest but unless. Elias Pederson. If he decided to wear that, I mean he's nasty enough. You could pull that off. Sure I'm not. I'm not giving anybody hardship at all I'm just saying people are like. How Nasty is sport out as house? They're very skilled, but they don't have a Brian McGrath. Going up to you and just absolutely fucking wearing like Sandy. I bet you I dare you to fucking dragged through the middle again. I'll fucking kill you and the rest of your whole bench. It is, it is two things first about instant replay. I actually thought you were going to even mention how. For for for is it offsides that type stuff I hate. It's like Oh my God, so I'll give you that the other. The other aspect is. If you're watching like today's society hockey, you see. How skilled guys are you see the speed and how fun it is, but it is way easier to be that skilled when you're not worried about getting lit up. And I think. And I think that that's kind of slowly started to happen, and and so the guy can be the most skilled player in the world. You'd see a summer hockey player. All of a sudden things got physically disappeared, so it does certainly lend it and make it easier for guys to just turn on the jets and do whatever they want I feel. I thought like a Lotta. The emotion has has left the game especially in the regular season where a lot of it is like. Hey, you're into watching ballet and loved like the skill aspect than. The Art of the Game Yeah I'm down with that but I also like it more on the physical side. I WanNa see, earn I WANNA fuck. I wanted that. That's why I like watching the cross. Box. They're crazy like. He slashed nineteen times. What what I'm like. God other than like fucking enough. Could were fighting. I don't even have not start Harry I don't think I'd. I would survive across, I'm. It just so some guys like there's there's there's two different. Crowds I mean. I'm a huge baseball fan. People hate seeing one nothing game I fucking love it. That's match I love the chestnuts quick, and it's quick to wait in. The thing is is like gets a single. Fuck art lets through the intentional. The let's get them over to second base a two times. Try to make it one nothing. That's all it is. That's play out drama it's. Like what so what I'm getting. A little tangent, but Went how many games that you play in that. You played at eight six fucking hockey game. Nev-. Never really may never. Got Blown out six one. been cheers never really running gun both ways ever. Team might allow this. List defenseman so good. He got sixty points I'm like. Do they play in fuck and six four games every night? There's no like as good as they are. As good as they are offensively, that's bad. They don't give a fuck about defense. They don't block shots like they need widened. Think John Tortorella has the Blue Jackets in a playoff spot and they have like eight of their starting guys out of. Out of the lineup, Kazeem makes you fucking. Buying in what wins is keen in blocking the hardship. That's what it is I mean the thing is all these teams are like bailouts when eight six. I'm like I've never seen that before. You. Get fifty points defenseman. That was like something. We keep talking about on this podcast like a hard game I mean Washington Yeah. They were skill, but they were toughest shit, too, and so is Ardoz Vegas and so sewer. The kings teams. The fucking Chicago teams were fucking big. I mean I, take tapes is a man's teams pages under size as a number one center in the West, but he plays a man's game. I mean you look at Anaheim when they're successful? Yet GHEZZI ask. When they had the fuck Stanley Cup, Thorton, Brad. Marchand George Perez with Brad Nate sitting, and then going in and out. You could talk all you want, but they're a little thick skulled like it's like a little battle going on people, the hard game wins. Over the last ten years show me. Why think Boston's always always no matter what always in the fucking mix because they play hard, they buy in. They know how it is. I mean one thing I could. I could say the team that forever that just. I Just had such players as Detroit, just say 'cause Nicholas these top, but they were hard to play against in a different way man right? They just move the puck so well, and they also had that grind line McCarty in. Those did elements in like Constantina of the first year they were tougher than on credit for yeah, but what I wanted to get into as you mentioned that crazier beginning of the year in Long Island. You go to Montreal. Then you sign your tickets so man, not you're. You're at over fifty points. What timing on two different? Two different teams to have that happen. You have a year. I mean it was. Fine you say that to the point where we are talking about leaving Chicago because I'm like I. I had better than that. It's right. So I go to Anaheim, then mean you were defense partners first year and we, we're on the second power played I. Mean How are we gonna pass up Scotty Meyer. Chris pronger Rainy Guinea out there. He's fucking bathrooms seven seconds, and then they changed. The ice the Puck all right got twenty one seconds. Let's get a Russian. It's going to be great. But then the second year. It was me you then yet, you. It's Edmonson for Mishafi. And then is the point where Brandi Carlile. Sorry. Farish now the GM Bob Murray Murray was like. WE'RE GONNA. Wait for Scott Niemeyer to decide whether I are combat. Then that's what will no sign you because. I'm just saying what's what Bob Murray told me. He goes. skylines loves playing with my own shitless by great owner started jerking offering. Your skin's. So, we're GONNA wait for his retirement. Saw I get married July, and then we go on our honeymoon to Hawaii and Fiji trying to get our deal done because I'm restricted free agent, and then come back from sign I go to the three days later. I go I go to the gym. Then I come back. Twenty free fucking phone calls from the same number. I'm like the I good. Side call up and it's mcnabb and he's like hey ways. We traded you to the authors and I might. All right. Let's say honey. I know you're from. California, but we're going to the island here we go. Let's go there. Unfortunately, we're supposed to be pretty damn good in that training camp this same orange and blue gain. Poso M N. March straight get hurt. So, they're out of the rim edge scrimmage. Inner Squad scrimmage Ruutel out for the year one torn late. Both I think torn laborers, or like in straight was like that's another are. That's another fucking underrated. Yep, it's been played for turning medical podcast. COLLAB- here. Here's the best. So this this is what happens. Is that you get your opportunities like I was telling you when Aucoin got her? It got me into the Nhl full-time. Then there's nobody else to play. Top power play those me so I. I had some around on a wit. Tell me my first thirty games in. An islanders like twenty two points, Ish yet twenty one and thirty two games to start the year. Okay, so then dash eighteen. I'll say, but that's a wit stat. We net goals here we go. fucking teen. Shit team and you're the offensive defendant who gets the fucking minus you do. So that's what people don't understand. Rule Change, it should be a rule change because you can. Bomb guys that are defensive defenseman and they're on an unbelievable team plus forty. You're because you're on the ice while the other teeing has an empty, net us four goal. So anyways so then I got traded to. I. Get Treated Montreal I. Had I think I had. Thirty points in forty games or something like that was that was a good thing. Honestly Ellis so much fun to be in that city playing well and not knowing French because. If, they're talking shit about you on the internet or you know. Of what a bill and they are! They are so we're where you down right now is where you live in. I am in Columbus Ohio that's. That's what I was. I was GonNa ask you now. You played the obviously for a few years where you really happy to see the the organization have some success in the region have some success last year in the playoffs. Well, honestly the the city is very loyal, obviously Osu. Buckeyes is their shit right. Then you have a split between Cleveland and Cincinnati with football and baseball teams, but I mean there are dying to have a good team so to be able to see them get that finally. That's why. I was kind of interesting to see what was going to happen here this year. Whether, they're going to be able to pull it off because or if they still do you guys think they're gonNA have the season. On fifty fifty, Biz. What do you got? I was prepared for that question and I was waiting to ask you one so I. I'm a little fucked up right now I. Forget what I want to ask I have to keep resetting. Buddy near Yeah I. Get it I. I was thinking. I think what they should do is what I said and I've said this on a whim I was like. In August beginning of August ten, we are Sunday training camp. Start start the end of the season at the ten games and twenty days so every other day, fucking busted out September October. Play play the playoffs. November December off. January third have training camp for two weeks and do what we did during the lockout. CK KNOWING! I think TV. Deal kicks in next year four seasons. They weren't want the full season, not how? Business. Is A business. You WanNa Bitch Online. Tell him to shut the fuck up. It's a business at some point. They want. They want to make it work because I think the players want to retrieve the the money. They'RE GONNA have to pay back of course. I think aspirin. And what sucks? There's going to be a few guys. Where maybe that was going to be their last year and that was their opportunity. Make some decent money. It's very unfortunate. It sucks, but like point somebody's going to have to lose like it's. It's a lose. Lose situation right now. Let's be honest. The owners want the players lose. That's just fucking plain simple. They're businessmen. They don't have billion. They don't go to the region. I own one hours. I own the bus and Bruins. Because I on the Boston Bruins is because I wanNA to make some money and I have a power control issue. The rare occasion, though everyone sort of on the same page though you know like I think everyone's pay, basically in the same direction you know everyone just to. Talk about. We hit when you sipping on by I meant that she from the get, what do you have? A little, Rubicon two thousand five. What what what what style of wine? Whatever their? CABERNET ELK VALLEY CAB? 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Fought? Taking forty five milligrams of Ambien. analysis. Buckets site down. You could actually have no clue anything. I have no idea I've some good stories, but that might be that with a list so. The guy's like while we're going to have to. Get the pilot and see if he can. Take you to the next stop. Amsterdam to Croatia Zagreb. And I was like aren't or whatever the pilot than he looks at me, he's like. He's okay to fly. Because flying business is he's like there's only doesn't drink and on my fuck that I to I'm. Kidding guys. Can't joke. Around About is kind of funny at the time. fucking detain in Amsterdam like well at least light district, so I, can rows getting naked on an airplane measure, which can Ernie els in Whiz get fucking Shit kick. Bernie kick the shit out here. Then you gotta lay next to win. He's naked. This has been unbelievable. We could go on the Gobi around to probably in at person when. We gotta do a golf. Match me and Oh yeah busy wants in. Sure heartland bagger well. Tell me Hartnell here. Let me put my sunglasses back on here. You're telling me Hartnell wants to do some content with spin check. Let's because I highly doubt that he'll want to be on camera. I mean I would say I can't believe he does NHL Network. It'd be on radio by listen. If, he will do a fucking sandbag with us. I would gladly have them when I. I would be shocked if he did it I think he's famous for us or if he won't do it, you and ball versus me and Biz. It wait here. There is if he's too famous to Scott Hartnell. Then we'll have to settle for Gerbil. No offense bowl swing. He broke my nose, so fuck him. I could jd here all. Well. Thank you so much. We will definitely catch up with you soon again and Um, stay healthy, dude, our voice. Vic thanks to James was new ski for join us. That was a fun chat. have him back again. I. 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That's a nice way of saying Bennington. Pigeon toss, but guess what he's got bigger fish to fry and going back to the rookie and with the islanders. Fucking Gula, hold my beer these islanders. Episode to all the all the fans of the islanders and the sabre so couples Shit Sandwich those fan bases. Yeah, it sucks man. You know that costs him. They should redid the place from the. Get go I mean all the money time. They've wasted, but. Those poor fans. They've been not loyal either so every year. It's Jus-. You have no clue what's coming next with them. Yeah, exactly fucking drama! We talked about the Greater Toronto Hockey League last episode. And you know how former players and current players wanted them to change the policy as far as releasing information about gross misconduct, penalties related for racist or other discriminatory comments, and while they did our turnabout, and they did release the numbers now that I don't think people ask the released names I think they just wanted some statistics, just kind of keep people aware that this is going on I'm so they did. They released statistics what was gone on a host town hall and you know it's late, but I guess better late than never how Biz, yeah and great job by Kevin Weeks and and the rest the gang who who talked about. In other issue they talked about which I thought was interesting was music in the locker rooms? Because you know kids, do decide what the music's be, but you know the rap is huge. It's been huge for twenty years, and obviously some of the languages troublesome, and it was interesting because everybody had a different perspective on some people think you know you should back and be an all music. Put on headphones, you know. Play the clean versions of songs so many options ban it just kind of this whole new can of worms. You know stuff we hadn't talked about thought about before out. Talking about is boys. We got one more interview Flyer Richard Jefferson like I said not interview is brought to you by Ziprecruiter despite everything that's going on. There are still some good things to appreciate like what Ziprecruiter's done. They continuing to do what they've always done helping. People find jobs and helping growing companies high for the teams. If you're a job seeker, Ziprecrui is focused on helping you find work faster. They send you up to the minute. Relevant jobs through the APPS. You can be one of the first to apply. 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Jersey Nets reached new heights as franchise. Of course in two thousand sixteen, he helped the cavaliers won their first title in franchise history as well as bring in Cleveland. I championship in fifty two years and one of the more throwing finals in recent history. It's a pleasure to welcome to spit and Shifts Richard Jefferson What's going on, guys? How are you guys demand man. Is Why. Let you off to drop the only reason why I even do podcast especially on other people's podcasts, and so I can get those type intros. Those type intros never get old. I was GonNa say I was going to ask if you've ever had one like that but I guess these are old hat for someone like you. I wouldn't say old hat, but a lot of times when you get introduced to the audience, that's when they kind of give your little resume of like why the hell! You should pay attention to this individual. we actually call them tire pumps in our industry like house nice tire pub. Okay okay. We just call gas where Thomas this okay? That's okay I should use that term. Tummy sticks okay well. That was going to be one of the questions I have like what are some of these basketball terms like you know? We call the females that fall around the hockey players, and like them for other reasons does sure ability to play hockey. We call them puck bunnies like what are some minor terms in basketball that are hockey. Audience Might WanNa hear of. they like to call it. The work that that's you know that that's probably the most recent. Just call it the work right that that's it's self explanatory and five most communities. Unbelievable so what he doing stay busy during this crazy quarantine. Shit where you all up. I have a podcast I'm held up in In Los Angeles California, but I've been working on my podcast. I have you know road tripping be? It's channing. Frye started many many years ago and that's that's part of the reason why I you know i. knew was so familiar with your guys podcast. 'cause I always guide at the top of the sports ranking, so you know I would be watching PMT or bill, Simmons and when we would drop a podcast i. you know you'd be watching it. Go Up and see what we can do. And I thought your guy's name atop so when you got a call and I was like yeah. Hundred percent I'd love to together about. So? How big of a hockey fan you? not at all not. That I don't, it's not that I. Don't respect the game. One hundred percent respect that crap. What you guys do, it's just. I grew up in Phoenix. Arizona so by the time I was in high school. They finally got the coyotes they had you know Keith, Kachuck and Jeremy. Roenick, they had guys that were big names, and so you got some interest, but as far as you know I was so far removed from ice and snow and Phoenix. That hockey was just never something that really you know. Popped up for me if I am I, Kinda Circle of of space. Well, there's a couple of guys up in Canada, named Rick can maybe West that are might be shutting interview off. They can go kick rock because I'm really interested in talking to you. And you said you had the PODCAST channing Frye for for a while, so you were doing it while you were applying. Yeah we. We actually start at the very very first season podcast of any athlete anywhere, so we're the very very first one then you've seen. Obviously podcasting has grown up and we weren't. We didn't create the PODCAST. That's not it, but like me. And channing Frye after we won the championship after having like three hour long dinners with our teammates. We were like hey. We should put some of this up on on wax. We would put it on and. And started doing a podcast, and we started that at bats when we just had a tremendous about success started seeing what the fans wanted. Fans want the behind the scene access, and not necessarily interview, but more. When we were doing long form conversations, you could just ask people stories, and it was Kinda. Slow Go, and that was content that I'd never really been seen in the NBA before and so that definitely helped with the early success of our podcast. That's funny. Because when asked me when I was still playing although I was in the American League, and not really in the limelight like you. I was a little bit nervous as the something I might have said on there. Did you see anything that got you in trouble with the team on your podcast while you were still playing? No, no, at first because no one really understand like again. We're talking about four years ago. podcasting he's been around for a decade, plus it's not longer depending on how you view it, but no for us. It was so uncharted territory and what we try to do a really good job up as editing out anything. That was controversial. We wanted you went to come. Come here to find out more about your favorite player or this athlete at to see how cheese interacting, we recorded on not playing. We lost a game against Boston. Then we were all drinking wine, and we recorded an episode on the team plane, flying to the next location, and then released in the morning, and people were mind blown because you had four or Or five of the fifteen guys came on, and we were telling stories. If you had a great game and this that all of a sudden, that was out the next naked. Who's like a bachelor televised game? A big game against Boston and all of people are like this is bananas that you can hear these guys talking for an hour on the plane and that was Kinda groundbreaking. Wanted had ever done or seen anything like that so it was fun, but it was fun, but we never tried to always avoid getting people in trouble. If there were things that needed to be edited out, would only let let our guest listen to it because we wanted to be for the conversation not to Click Bait. Going back to that incident you just talked about. Does that court beef in a joking way kind of make the podcast where you're taking shots about like I rejected that guy, three times or whatever you did in the game. Yes. You know what we we in. When we were playing, it was a little bit more topical, but now it's it's. Kind of Evergreen we WANNA. Know what people are doing what their interests are. Tell us a funny story about your team. Mate, you know channing Frye both complaint guard Com played for over thirty years combined, so we were teammates with half the NBA over the course of our careers. Almost the guys that we got on. We either do stories about had experiences with a lot of it. It was really really fun. relaxed storytelling but the cool thing about when we did it during the season that there wasn't topical stuff when we were talking about the games that we played and stuff like that, but we're not really into breaking down stats and analytics. This is more of like how if you were to put six hockey players together at dinner and just record it. Like, that's more of what it was about right, and you know you know you're recording, but we're not breaking down games. We're talking about who's has the fastest. Or who do you think this is? We're comparing and like breaking down stories, so that's more of what what we were about. I know. The game changed immensely from early couple seasons until you're retired. Consider that change or evolution? What's going on with the game from when you entered exited? Well I think evolution I think it's evolution, and it's like you remember you know. I, don't want to date myself, but when I was growing up, there wasn't youtube every basketball move I got was either from watching an NBA game NBA video or going to the park, and seeing an older guy do it, and then I would try and emulate now these kids have you know youtube where they can watch breakdown videos like I kid. They're doing masterclass videos with. With Steph Curry? There are three and five all of this stuff now people have the ability to start and learn and train at a at a much higher level, so wherever the game goes and ten to fifteen years right in to me. This is the evolution of the game now it's not all the things. Don't always evolve the way want them to, or in a manner that is, that's pretty and beautiful, but ultimately the game is going to always evolve. A young stud plan and you grew up in Arizona. You Win a State High School Championship I'm looking up all your. All your stats. were. A company well this you're, GonNa. Know? You're going to get a Kit Yeah Tommy. Sex. You're going to get a kick out of this so. You were at Arizona. That's when I was in my ultimate of watching college basketball as a college basketball fan and your team I remember. I love that team lost a duke. Now I may be off some of the stuff, so so just correct me if I'm wrong, but that team had you. Gilbert Arenas and Luke Walton, and that game against Duke was like unforgettable, just advancing experience here. Guys lost just told me about that that rise in college basketball become one of the top teams in the country. That is just sick. It was fun, because when I first got to Arizona so basically the year they won the national championship with ninety seven. They had file Simon and and Mike Bibby Jason Terry, and all of these great players, so I came on the year after so I went there with the goal of like L.. These guys God their legends. I want to win a national championship so. So I, think everybody that went there and the preceding like next two three years were of the idea like I'm coming here because I want to win at National Championship, so we were fortunate where we had some really good teams. Great players, even some of our great, the best players on our team. I would probably say Jason Gardener Lauren and Michael writes those guys. Guys are all college all Americans, but ultimately didn't have the lengthy pro careers at being Luke Walton and Gilbert Arenas. But if you were to break down the three best players on our college team where those three guys, and then it was the next three, but we have five preseason. All Americans and we just ran into the Great Duke. Team, you talk about being Gilbert. Gilbert and Luke Walton will. They had shamed that EA Carlos. boozer Jason Williams Mike Dunleavy Christie Todd nine loaded to loaded team so and and truth be told it was a toss up like I. You know you tip your hat to them I I hate everything that's fucking associated with Duke, but you know I. I still respect for those guys i. My my lasting memory. That game is Mike Dunleavy, just going off on the second half of that thanks. Talking about every a hey, listen. Listen to me, I was young. I was rooting for you guys, you guys, let me down, but still I. Mean I still want to up your tires and let you know how the day I appreciate that I it's it's all I have the pleasure of working with Jason, Williams and anytime I get an opportunity to shoot a shot at Duke I do. Bill Walton you gotTa have a story there I. Mean you had to at least one joint with about at the University of Arizona? Now Dow he was always just like boys need to drink milk, so he went even when we would go get kicked out of his house. I kicked out of his how there's I have to make his. My best friend and and bill is like he's like a dad to me because you know even though he's differently, he was shaping me as a young individual, giving me like NBA type advice when I was in high school and college, and so took for me like he filled a role that my parents never understood. They didn't understand, but it was going to be. Be Like to have that type of attention at twenty, one or twenty two where billions of dollars at twenty twenty four, so he was so instrumental in shaping me as a professional and as an individual, but he he was talking crazy. I'll give you guys a couple of thirty one time. I have tons of stories I've I've thousands of thousands of dollars? This bill, burr. For one time. I give you a couple, so you know one time and me and Luke. Just meet each other, and this is back in the day where you're answering machines and all of a sudden I click on and for me I've known a little bit, but never met bill so all we get a voicemail and bill. Walton is on my phone. This is the same. That was doing the NBA finals with Michael Jordan and all these other guys on like. Like I'm in Awe Bill Luke. This is your father bill calling We got an all. We got a message from the office and they need you to send a letter home. The address is you know eight six, seven five. You know you know Smith Lane I repeat is eight six seven five spits Lane San Diego and he let the twice and I was like Luke. Did you just move or something like why? Trick Dad leaves the address. He looked at me and put his head down richer. My Dad's or my parents are really big hippies. I was born in the downstairs bedroom of that house and he's still leaves to address every single time twice on his on my best machine with. Richard. I need you to send it to this address Blah Blah, and you're just and I was like really weird. He was Richard, you have no, you have no idea even when used to crash at his house and we would be in the hot tub I remember me Luke we get in the hot tub and there's these two older guys and they start telling stories just oh, YEP, out boxes that we've got her chopping it up. Telling stories and there are loop were good to see you get out so I'm like Oh man you. You've known those guys for a while Lucas like I've never seen those two guys before in my entire life, Richard. And like these are the things that would happen. These are the things that would happen like at his house like the the just the Weirdo stuff, and he is just a strange, just strange, long strange trip. That's The Walt. Yummy, absolute legend I know you probably just a kid when he won his last title with the Celtics there, but he never has to buy drink new England again. That's for sure but. I want to go back to university Arizona briefly when you were, there was a well known on campus that one of the all time. Greatest comedies ever was filmed on campus. Oh Mary one hundred percent. You know, revenge an earth. Have to tell us about that. It was literally right across bear down gym where they will do it. That was the that we used to. We used to have to actually practice in that Jeff. So yeah, it was well known it well known for like he was kind of past the point of being cool, but like Tucson with shit hole town that it was like one of the one of the cool things that like May that school because you know, you compare it to Arizona State ARGH UCLA USC our Washington in Seattle or one thing that made to kind of cool and another fun fact candy. Love that old movie when. I see that that's identity. That was that was also found in Tucson. Like at the high school. Right across the street, so we have a little bit of fame, not much kind of fallen off the bed. So after Arizona. You're a first round pick I. MEAN FIRST-ROUND NBA draft. If we look back at your suit that night, we're going to be laughing. You, know what it wasn't. No, no, no, so I was against you these story, the Commissioner I didn't think I was going to be that good, so they'd invite you to the Green Room that I was the first player draft not in the Green Room. Yeah Yeah so you ran when you found out. You weren't invited that like that Kinda shocking. Now because you know if anything, it teaches you early because I think they had like a couple of years, they had a couple of like the Aaron Rodgers situation where guys are sitting there and you're watch their dreams get crushed, and what happened for me is because I was like a middle round. Pick there a couple of teams that bad mouthy. To see if I can drop so I worked out for Charlotte and they're like. Hey, how'd you shoot the ball? Because that was like a big question mark, actually have to shoot the ball when you're in Chicago I was like actually shot the ball, really well actually shot it better than I did. Hear like they told us that you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn right because they wanted me to drop a little bit lower so once that information starts getting up to. To the commissioner, and they have to make decision of the top twelve guys are top fifteen guys, but again I would. The first player drafted. That wasn't in the Green Room, so it just gave me a quick introduction that people will say things about you to benefit themselves right like they'll talk about you and make you earn less money to see if you can drop from fourteen to seventeen. That's a great lesson to teach a twenty one year old about the interprofessional dauntless to them. Now! You get drafted by Houston. Did you know or suspect that they were GonNa Day the same day? No no idea I was actually to go. Cody Houston my high school team with the rockets. They were to use rocket there in the western conference. They had France that they had a bunch of guys. It was going to be like I was excited and then funding story they I was dating a girl at the time and We had conversations. Hey, look, the pro serie are the better chance you can have because she was gonNA to be in school for one more year. We make it work so I get I get drafted by Houston and accused the way she texted me. Congratulations Blah Babur bonds like oh man! I'm so excited. Thank you, thank y'all call you later. My agent calls me is okay. I think there's a trade who've been David tr. They announced the trade attacks from her. Like thirty minutes like well. I guess was Nice. Knowing it so I can trade, and so I sent out to Jersey and at this point in time I'm furious. Right because I'm thinking that I went Houston to a team I nothing about in. In New, Jersey New Jersey doesn't have the best reputation especially for kids from Glendale Arizona, so then like the next day is when they announced Jason Kidd Trade and being a huge fantasies and kid, he was in the Phoenix the Phoenix. Suns without with teen. That is made me just know that Oh. This is going to be great, and and the rest is history. You guys were buzzing right off the hot there. What was it like all of a sudden? You're in the big apple and like you're young. You have all this fame because I know you. You had a good start to your career early on like. was that a little overwhelming at first? No actually and and this is you know again? Not Obviously our country's gone a lot as it is right now, but It was I I got drafted in two thousand one so like nine eleven happened shortly right before season started. So you know I could literally see the towers falling down so I was in New York. When all of this happened, so you know the whole young funding you gotta remember that the diamondbacks ended up beating the Yankees and the world series that that you know we went to the final, so the city was in a very very fragile state and And it took many years for the city to recover. As you know, everyone knew, but you know I drafted in June. I show up for training camp in September, then September eleven happens, and then our season start a month later. There was nobody party. There was no one going out drinking. There was no one hanging out having fun. It was like you know which was good for me but also you know it was. It was just not that type of environment so The country wasn't really partying. Let alone like in New York. When you know, stuff was still burning for months. Sorry to be a Debbie, Downer, for you, that's that's a real shitty story. Well, you know it's part of the history of pilot story. I actually. Quick Aside I. Actually started a job on September tenth of two thousand one, so nine eleven was the second day of work for me. Once saw Dan Anyway exactly walking to work I got a question. Midst of all this was your rookie signing signing contract for because the NBA. That's the money that's where the money's. I was fortunate. 'cause I was a lottery picks the lottery. I wanted to say that like as the thirteenth pick in the draft. I think it was a total of maybe five million six million total contract, so like one point five in the first year one point six, and the second one point something, and then you get a bump in your fourth year. If they accept like they beat your like your look, here's his three years guaranteed, and then one year team option so that you get Bob on the team option so I probably made like five million at my I you know, go around which for me was obviously life changing for the family? To two thousand four. I believe it was the big year for you. Not only did you get the massive extension? But you also made the the US USA Olympic team. That was a great great. You know what's crazy, is that? How can you be a winner and a loser? Great great example that Olympic. yeah, but now now it was what was in part of his. Why signed my contract is? Because I was playing for the Olympic team? So I wasn't in a very good spot to negotiate a contract, not that I didn't I was blessed and fortunate, but yeah like my contract was up July, and then I'm playing Olympics like July August so yeah, I was fortunate man where I signed my contract. My big contracts six year deal back when you could. Could still do those again you know. The Olympics was a unique experience I still and by the greatest experience besides winning a championship, which I was fortunate to do was opening ceremony at at the Olympics now I know the Olympics. Then go the way we wanted him to look at the end of the day. Like I have an Olympic medal. I was a part of opening ceremony and I was an Olympic athlete like that's something that I don't care. If you just underachieve or do as well you. It's something that I I'm extremely proud of and joy. Making Fun of you guys shoot whatever shots you guys want. You? Know, what I'm GonNa say sorry, did all. There we go there. We go, so. Tara barely. Barely played, don't care silver bear though there. You're an Olympic athlete. You're Catholic that's for. LIMBIC athletes like that's it. That's all that matters now you know I consider you know the bronze medal. You know we had to win. The bronze like you technically lost the gold so you know if you would have put us in a goal. I was higher than you guys were besides her. So true so to that. Does that was too? So. Were mentioning the shots there I. I looked into it a little bit I. Know What the time! It was a very very young Olympic team, the youngest ever gap there was eight guys under the age of twenty three correct. twenty-five under the age of twenty five. Yeah, excuse me and you were playing ahead of Carmelo Anthony of time and. Drama that ended up getting brought up as a result of that. Wasn't drama. I think they're maverick. Maverick Carter brought up a fact that you know him and Lebron who were too young superstar studied that we're about you know they're a future. All Star Teacher Hall of famers. You know, but these guys were at Brown was the greatest high school player when of the greatest high school players ever maybe the greatest perimeter highschool player ever I. Don't want to discount like Bill Walton Agreement Bill Jabbar. Guys like that, but and then you had Carmelo. National Championship took Denver to the playoffs. And when they look at this like hey, where Olympic team they're like. Why aren't we starting now? With all due respect, we're all countrymen. We're all in this together. and I think that was a younger mindset for them. When they're their hostility. There was a little bit. You can feel it, but I think the hostility wasn't directed at me. Like are are Shawn Marion at the time, but they maverick Carter. Oh you guys made a vow to go and destroy them, and then they will wait a second the next year. They didn't destroy me I. Think I had like twenty five eleven and. And held Carmelo tonight nine point, and so it was like wait is back there and the funny part about it is that I have so much respect, Maverick and Carmelo I'm not saying that I am a better player than Carmelo by any means, but in two thousand four when he was twenty. One and I are twenty one and twenty four. It was a lot more even of a match up than people want to say, but if you're worried about who starting and you know this from playing on the Olympic team, you're. It's the team effort. It's not this is not like who. WHO STARTING WHO's coming off the bench? Just like at the end of the day, everyone they're one of the best in the world. We need all sacrifice and focus on a singular goal. If you're worried about who starting dot starring, it's not like I was playing forty minutes. It was like I would play four minutes than the next guy would come in and play four minutes, and so you know there's always going to be drama. And when the documentaries made about probably sure, but I have my villain role at some point in time, but Tuck it. You're going to be Horace Grant. On. My, yeah, the difference between me and or like Horace Grant me I'll go on on on every network every podcast I'll go I'll I'll tell the truth drew battle with the bodies are buried, so be careful we can. We're going to go into the last dance. Put One thing that I took away from that was how intense the original dream! Team's practices were and I mean those are the best guys in the NBA were was the intensity in those scrimmages the best you've ever seen. Ours are. No No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I would say different. Time and again we had We think we had a difficult time. Because Larry Brown was a very unique older older coach, and to have such a young team, he glared, Brown took on, was on ability of trying to teach these young players to play basketball, and that just wasn't in. We didn't have any experience. We didn't have any like we didn't. Didn't have like like. I was needing seven or eight guys for the first time before we went to the Olympics, so it was like it was just unrealistic that you put a young came together with no experience, no practice and it's it was American arrogance that we thought that we could just go out there with no practice. No nothing like. Oh, we'll. We'll look at Lebron, James and Carmelo. They were twenty one years old. They're not the thirty four year old. You know MVP candidates that they are now. They were still learning how to play the BASS game of basketball. All of us still were, so we was, and then after that they realized that they had to have like a usafe selecting where they were. Were Vita top younger players to learn in trained together and trained for a week so it how changed the format? So if we had to be the sacrificial lamb to help the US win? The next ten gold medals Spin I, felt like we attributed our own way. Our failure contributed in a positive way just like wits ankles. Anyway you were to ask. It. was you know you mentioned the arrogance? Was it? Was it also too many guys playing hero ball, and maybe taken the opposition a little too lightly as well. No, no, because if you go back and look like in the Sydney Olympics the US barely want this. You have barely won the gold that they only wanted they won by single digit and it was a very very close. They were tied with like two or three minutes to go in the game, so he barely won the gold medal so coming into it. They knew that they couldn't be S. so what happened was is that we had fifteen guide that been to. Puerto Rico to qualify for the Olympics. It was Karl Malone Ray Allen. Tracy McGrady Mike Eighty. I'd say Vince Carter Jason Kidd. We just had a Alan Iverson Tim Duncan. And Jermaine O'Neal, so we had this loaded veteran swat well after the after we qualify for the Olympics and just give you. We played Argentina and we beat them by forty in our. We were up by forty in that game against Argentina. Now fast forward, a bunch of guys start dropping out. T MAC drops out. Then Carter drops out. Ray Allen drops out Carl Malone drops out. Drops how Jason Kidd drops out all of these guys, dropout in-between the fire after qualifying before the Olympic all these guys drop out, and now the NBA scrambling so I was on that team that Qualified Olympic, but I would like to young guy, and so they and so basically what happened? Is They just? Were? They just chose whether they likely Brown. This was going to be the first Olympics post nine eleven so really really intense. It was really really intense like the security, and what was going to be going on whose guys or maybe a little bit afraid of like you know being a target because this is a billion dollar team is the most notable. Notable team so guys kind of felt like they could be targets. You just didn't know especially in Greece and so all of these guys back out and so now the NBA scrambling, so they go from having veteran team to now asking like player after player after player after player, and finally they get to like the younger players, so they get to the. Alabamian got asked yes. Calabria got act like He. Said no with. The white bomber with yeah, when when the White Bomba, says no, you traveling, so then all of these guys and make and so they start. Maybe they were like these guys can't get it done. And we can build for the future which Carmelo abroad have gone onto win two or three gold medals, so all of us. Dan were thrust into a space. We get together and we play together for the very very first time, so I'm meeting D., weight fast forward to the Olympics in the in the in the semi finals. We play that same Argentina team that had five NBA player. They had no CIONI. CIONI, they had Umberto they had mono nobly they had Scola so they had a bunch of like NBA players, but these guys have played together for the last decade, and they were a better team than us on that day, so it was like. was that arrogance an us? Not taking truth like no, these guys were great players that had a ton of experience. We were very young team that had no experience and recipe ultimately lead to a bronze medal. You mentioned Ray. Allen Jesus shuttles worth one of my favorite movies of all time he got game. How similar was your college visit to? By guys in my my I, everybody different mind was very very smart, not like drugs sex money, but in just far like walking and team that these guys were treated like Gods and just how they were just big show in town especially in Tucson so they always tell you not on your visit I had my very first visit of five. I met Luke, Walton no trip and one other kid ricky Anderson. We both. All three of US looked around and was like I've seen enough. Yeah, I'm good I've seen enough I don't need to go anyplace else. There's no way it could be better and so I only ended up taking one official. Amazon outlet. Okay, we'll quickly since we're there right now. We gotta go to Gilbert Arenas the skies out of his mind in a sense where I fall on social media, he doesn't give a shit. Nothing at all, no chill. Was He like that in college? Yes he had. He's he's. He's such a sweet kid. He's such a good dude, but he is. He is one of those people that you don't WanNa. Play the game of dare with him. He's one of those individuals that you want to be like bet you won't do that. Don't like he's one. He just one of those guys that he just feels. That is like his alternate time to shine the minute. You'd think he won't say. Say or do something that's the thing that gives Gilbert Arenas. Rush now. If you WANNA hardest working motown players, I've ever seen in my life, one thousand percent, but is he funny is hilarious. Does he have like no chill to on that is Gilbert one hundred percent, and it's been him I. Don't Gilbert since we were probably like sixteen seventeen years old, and he's never going to change. He's matured, but he's not going to change. Rich you ever get sick of the endless Lebron verse and j debates did just seem to be nonstop. You get sick of hearing them. Now you know you get sick about it because one for me, personally because I'm always associated with Brian. Like my my you never respected so I I I give my unbiased opinion, but I typically try and back out on our than I. Maybe I have might highlight differences or something, but I don't do it just because if anything, it's negative towards broad if I say he's the go, if If I go just because you love Braun. If I M as the go like see, look even John's teammates. As you go, so it's like I. Have I'm not a win situation if we're talking about a topic or specific or a difference between them, yes, but who's go? WHO's the greatest? I think they're both the greatest of their generation. Michael Jordan's a greatest visit generation will chamberlain bill. Bill Russell Magic Johnson Kobe Bryant these guys are the dominant guy that you're trying to go and find out the elite of the elite. That's going to be a little bit more difficult, but I don't think that Lebron James He's going to have records that are probably will never be broken like his playoff record right now for most points. He's got a thousand more points than anybody. Anybody in playoff history, even including MJ. Pat Mj that means that the next player that's going to break Lebron's record is going to have to twelve final than average thirty points a game every single year and order to break that record. That's just it's. It's an unbreakable. That's just ungodly, and you've got to spend quite a bit of time with them, and he takes a lot of flack. Obviously. He's got to be a good guy behind the scenes right because he takes a lot of abuse. Yeah, he is. He understands that he takes. He takes the credit and he takes the blame, and that's a real. That's a real real mad. Right there rain. He's a guy that he can. He competes in a respectful way, and that's like always like his kind of thing, but no-one trains harder. No one works harder. No one has a better basketball. IQ That I've ever played that I've ever seen that. I've ever complained played with but for the most part he is just the ultimate professional, and all of the success in all of the success that you know he's gotten. He's deserved. Richard I'm not going to do the obvious Boston Guy Thing and ask about Larry Bird instead I wanna ask about Magic Johnson in I, think wh. Why doesn't he get mentioned more on this conversation? I feel magic magic. Johnson is is the is a real big Pr Guy Love Magic to death. Like you know. There's some things that you agree with things that you don't. Don't ultimately as far as I'm concerned like my thing, I think Magic Johnson is the greatest Laker of all time I. Like to me and I know Kobe. Bryant is right right there. Right there, but when you you know I think you know Magic Johnson and again. Maybe I'm just an old Ed but Magic Johnson won five championships won multiple MPP like He. He dominated and did so many things and he changed the game. He was a six point guard. You've never seen that before, but I think he understand to further the game and make sure there's no rip. He says like what Kobe Bryant is the greatest Laker of all time which again. It's no different than the magic in the Michael Verses Lebron like you can. Can pick whoever you want and you're not wrong I just look at what Magic Johnson resume and like the amount of winning that he did from the very very beginning, even at a very young player I, think to me. If you would ask me, I would rank. I would rank bad at Johnson Ben, Kobe Bryant been cream, ability, bar, and then shock and that. One I don't know I didn't know Jerry West. We'll Chamberlain Elgin Baylor. I didn't know those guys from what my own is saw like. That would be my order, Lakers that's funny. Because I literally had my. No I don't think it's crazy to prefer magic to colby so. I was like Oh. That's music to miss. Because magic I mean I grew up watching him, he was he was incredible. You mentioned having a view a few minutes ago. I wanted to ask what was your viewpoint? The block and this'll be the last question because we know you gotta go. Take care of your kids. No. No. My block is like I was fortunately I was on the bench I just out and then when I obviously when he did that. And when he chased it down, it was like a blur because I was sitting down, and it's almost like again. It's no different than a again. A I'M GONNA. Use a hockey represent different than a power play. Sometimes you could see it happening and you're just like. Oh, they're gonNA score or something. That's about happen, so you saw it and then when he did that. Block the thing that I. Try and point out the people is that this is? Is Game Seven? This is two minutes to go, so this is this man has played every minute of the game in the last possible game of an NBA season, and he sprints like no one has ever seen and jumped head to the rim. That's the athlete. People can do that at game. Twenty people can do that at game forty, maybe the first round of the playoffs, but the have a guy be able to do it. In his seven, thirty, seven, straight final on the last possible game of the season in game seven, the Guy Still Brown it. Jump that bass in that high. That it's just it's a level of thirty as as an athlete I don't think I've ever seen you know a play like that. I think you broke it down perfectly. Right well guys I I really do man I appreciate that and having you guys, you know support our podcast interest talk that and if you ever want, want me to get on and chop up some more you guys can maybe give me some hockey. quit or something like that. We can tie it back in. Yeah, man. Hey, once the season starts. Maybe we can take in a game together somewhere when we're on the same time together. That would be awesome and that would be awesome. All Right J. have a great week in my man. All right, thank. 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You're GONNA miss short ones I, mean the guy I think there was too short ones one by more collar, and then one by Shaw in in the in the playoff hole, so it's just brutal to she, but you hit the Chinese bit off pace off line Lippo. What's what do you consider a Gimme like in the? Professional World of Golf. The the term used. For your. Your everyday Golfer called if it's inside the leather, it's good, which means. I don't think many people have leather grips anymore on their potter's, but back in the day they did, and if you laid down the potter with the putter head in the cup, and then laid it down, and the ball was inside before the leather started on the grip, they'd be like. Pick it up inside the leather. It's good, so what is that? Maybe a few inches? Maybe may maybe maybe more like sixteen. I'd be curious to actually measure it, so that's considered most of the time, but I mean if you're if I'm in a big money match. WHO's probably the way? I talked to Nelly I think I want to start video in these money mashes plan. Then get him edited. It's common is. So we'll figure that out, but I'm bring those up because you're going to never give short putts at the. To win a match to win a bunch of cas