20 Episode results for "Jack Daniels"

Whiskey Quickie:Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Heritage 2019 Edition

Bourbon Pursuit

02:29 min | 6 months ago

Whiskey Quickie:Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Heritage 2019 Edition

"Bourbon American whiskey Malt Ri- Rum. You name it barrel. Does it all find out more at barrel? Bourbon DOT COM On this quickey looking at Jack Daniels a heritage barrel. This is the twenty one thousand nine hundred released now. This was actually a sample that was sent to us by paper on subscriber. So cheers Daniel. Thank you so much for sending it and what we're looking at today is again Jack. Daniels Heritage Barrel Twenty nineteen. It is a hundred proof fifty percent ab now with Jack Daniels. None of it's really H. Stated selected barrels there before and there around four sex like there's no elder betters a day just another line. They're running them through there so I mean that's that's pretty. I mean for the age in the price and everything. We're always amazed by anyway. Let's go fast so the price on the Jackie heritage barrel here. We're looking at around a seventy dollar S. P. even if you can find the twenty thousand version around still so that let's go ahead and diamond in the knows. Oh I love it. It's like cinnamon and you got a lot of banana. Bread and banana notes in there too. Like Yeah it makes me think of like down home cooking just hanging on. Was IT Baby Bo? Bo's bulldoze Mary Bo. Bo's eating banana bread or something and bread and the Mac and cheese they had. Oh Gosh Springs back memories all right on the taste where you out here truly. It's got creamy. Banana will serve a little nice nutmeg. Spies Kinda finish almost bitter to me. The bag is a little bitter little stringent but overall. I like the front mid. I think it's got some good flavors but I that she said that kind of bitterness towards the end it really kind of really shines at the end of lasted takes over all right so the knows where yet thumbs up all right and the taste sideways thumbs up kind of with you and the Finnish sideways. It's a little too bitter kind one to get out of it. Get rid of it. So no bitter Ryan This Week. Now are cheers. Y'All we'll see you next time.

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How to Use the Lincoln County Process

Lush Life

48:25 min | Last month

How to Use the Lincoln County Process

"It's not uncommon that Ascot would be the UK brand ambassador of one of the most iconic whiskey brands in the world. Unless of course that brand is Jack Daniels born and bred in the US of a bomb Susan Choice words, you're drinking companion. And this is Lush Life podcast every week. We're inspired to live life one cocktail at a time. Camp Dawson proudly flies the flag of the one and only Jack Daniel's Tennessee whiskey, he is definitely not the only one flying that flag as it is the biggest selling Whiskey in the world plus it has that same cachet that old blue eyes Frank Sinatra was its biggest fan. So today we discover. How cam became Jack Daniels biggest cheerleader and walk Is teaching the world that the world doesn't already know about Jack Daniels. No, I am so happy to have you on the show you I I think I know you for like three or four years at a bye-bye. Think I ran up to you and said I want a t-shirt by the way. I am wearing the T-shirt amazing. I mean, I'm so happy that you still have that. I'll have to send you a new one or I know that you're a big fan of Tennessee honey. I'll see I can send you a Tennessee flag tee shirt as well. We'll see what kind of its product placement it's in the back and in my hand. I have made a Tennessee Honey and lemon-aid. All right, cuz you know, that's one of my favorite Cocktails. So cam. Awesome UK brand ambassador Jack Daniels. It's so exciting. So I usually start with your background and as I was doing a little research on you and I saw a video of you on YouTube and your father had made a comment. And the comment was no, okay. You were talking about American whiskey okay in this small little YouTube clip and your dad wrote way to have to read this before you say Thursday between super felt like I knew this man would be the end of my career. So no, it's it's really good. But he says I'm his father and I think he's gone to a dark side. But he sells it well, so it was a positive comment but I love that. He was the only comment so of course will start also offer. Why does your father think you'd wanted the dark side? Where did you come from? What is the good side or the light side? And the dark side? This is something that I've always tried to do and being a a brand ambassador is try and keep that try and keep what I say to people that are coming and hearing me talk about my favorite product is keep it related to me off. I grew up in the middle of Scotland. I as a young child, I grew up in an area called the trossachs. I was on holiday last week walking through the trossachs which was a very very very long long distance work. But then I moved to a place a very close to Sterling in Scotland. Probably about seven miles west of Sterling. I was four miles south of a Distillery. I was seven miles east of a Distillery. My Village was surrounded by fields of barley. My dad is a huge whiskey fan. So there was always off in the highest. Well, he would have been referring to was I've gone to the dark side and I'm representing the Americans This is the first whiskey that I ever drank thought it was I still remember where I was who I was with for legal reasons. I Was Eighteen years old. I've been using that joke for Thursday. Debated years now, but but yeah, that's what he will be referring to you. But he will be so pleased to know that someone is appreciated his comments and she says usually myself and my sister telling them take that comment dead. Now. I have a question about your dad drinking whiskey before we get to your first Jack and Coke was there one specific brand that he loved to drink it? And you know, did he try to get you to drink it? I said it was always different brands in the house from all over Scotland whether it be Highland space Long Island. I was born a little tired called folk rock which had a very sought-after whiskey coming from there. So often is known about that brand of shared a few drives of that with my dad's before but no no one in particular. I wouldn't say that we're a fagg. Of Heart of drinkers or anything like that. It's it's a special occasions. It would be maybe a glass of wine with dinner and sometimes Dad wasn't really the father that would go and and be in the pub every week or anything like that. It was always a riot, but I always remember there being the boss the mysterious booze covered in every family has that mysterious bruise covered, but we always just got caught by the ear if we went to close to it, but I remember so to do is quite strange is that now I'm in the drinks industry and and even that men are still remember labels that were in their life and the things I I I love to drink now and my dad used to have a business in Iceland. So I remember as a family we all went to Iceland once and they brought back home. A a bottle of Bren event which is like their national drink, which is like currently schnaps are very very dry version of it. And I've used that in Quartz Hill competitions and use it with Jack Daniels before as a modifier and Cocktails and this but weird that years and years and years after recognizing these labels are still in my life today off, but but yeah, all right, this InFamous first Jack and Coke which you know, every time I hear you interviewed, it's about this Jack and Coke and you had it cuz I thought it was rock and roll. All right. Yeah. I know how enough that sense but you've got to imagine being eighteen years old. You're you're allowed to drink. Everyone goes out and in Scotland off one has a specific type of beer here the national log are and then my friend came back from the bar not with that, but he came back with a Jack and Coke and I just remember a quote. Wow. I suppose as bad as it's just so different. So I went up and I ordered one and it had been my drink ever since I still go ahead and drink Jack and cool today. It was my birthday the last couple of weeks ago and I was out with my friends in London. I was drinking Jack go cold nights. It's still my drink. It doesn't taste like Coke. It doesn't taste like it tastes like Jack and Coke and it's it's not as gassy as a beer. It's a spirit mixer and it's always been my my go-to drink spiced off of it. But I think even back then as an eighteen-year-old young adolescent kid as an eighteen-year-old kid. I was still a statement. I didn't know that it was whisky back then. I just knew that it was it was Jack and it was it was a bit. It was like a it was a bit rebellious. Let's say I thought it was different to what everyone else of our similar age group was drinking. So did you graduate from Jack and Coke to anything else or you kept drinking Jack and Coke, even while you were suggesting to pursue a career in the business. So there was a long time I suppose in terms of bartending. I was a little late to the the bartending game I suggested when when a lot of my peers in the industry started when they were eighteen. Yeah. I was I was pretty late. I was always in retail sales as my first job out of school and college and things like that. But yeah, I took a a year out of of my life in the U age I went to Australia as everyone was doing back then and I wanted a a job that that I could do no matter where I was in the country and bartending was the name. It was The Logical answer to that. Something is a little bit weird. As I was always fascinated by bartenders whether that was watching cheers as a kid. I don't know and see Woody Harrelson polishing glasses had danced at I don't know what it was but it was always this this sort of romance to to being a bartender home. So I was very very happy to do it. So I started pouring pints in London before going off to Australia and that's way in a couple of influential people really encouraged me to get into cocktails. I was working in rock clubs, which where the perfect setting for about my friend here. I was working in financing cocktail bars wage. Spend sawdust bars or pubs all over the country but cocktails really interested me and whenever back to the UK, hold on your page and way too fast. Hold on for a second while when you were in in Australia. Did you ever think? Oh, this could be the thing that will be my life's work or off just not now because you're going to hate me I have another quote you said you said that you were when you were in Australia you start that's when you started to make Fancy Pants cocktails. I'm using that quote fancy pants are Arty farty cuz they usually say RT parking. No. No, it's definitely fancy pants off and was it so you didn't go thinking this is going to be my life's work when you started to create these Fancy Pants cocktails number one was that in purse and was it Thursday? That you thought okay. This is something that I could pursue. Okay. So just go and rewinding back a little bit when you asked if I thought this would be my life's work. Go into bartending. I fell in love with it. I and that's when I realized that I really wanted to do that as a career. I thought you meant Jack Daniels and that I had a very good place. The bar time. Yeah. Yeah. So when I was in Perth in Western Australia, I mean, there's still some of my best friends today and who really encouraged me B thek just me to the right people still remember the name of the bar. I have no idea if it's still there, but it was called Niche bar. And I remember being taken they're being introduced to Manhattan's two martinis off in the coronavirus to disease as well as mosquitoes and type Roscoe's and Karina's and yeah, I fell in love song. Who claim and sinker Head Over Heels just a different flavors the the different garnishes different tastes. Yeah. I'm not even speaking about it. Now. I'm salivating and all you need to do if you're ever having a rough day is just remind yourself, but all these amazing things that I get to work with. And so when you you, you know, you fell in love with the cocktails. Oh, did you think you were just going to stay in in Australia or did you know that you were going to come back to the UK one month? Well, the plan was to stay out in Australia. I I also fell in love with with Perth. It was busy and energetic when you wanted it to be it was quiet and relaxing whenever you weren't in the mood there was something for whatever kind of headspace you were in beautiful beaches Bush was just outside of City. You could go an Explorer as Wine Country just below it. I thought I had a oh I actually was working in a bar or I don't think is there any more called box Deli and the Order of the team knew I wanted to stay and we have spoke about sponsorship, but it fell through and it was a small bag. So something like the be responsible for this twenty-one-year-old. Backpacker essentially as as what I was I don't know you could really take on the financial burden of that. So unfortunately I came home. I was very upset. I still remember my dad picking me up from Heathrow Airport. But but yeah, then I got into cocktails really seriously when I got back and I thought I knew it's what I want you to do. Where were you what part of the country is? So before I left for Australia, I had moved down to Brighton in England off and it was the first place that I'd lived that wasn't Central Scotland and I never go into Glasgow. I never go to Edinburgh and went straight into Brighton which wage For a young Scottish man, it was completely wild different and there was lots of bars and there was cocktails and and it was a party scene thought I made a lot of friends really quickly who are still walk away my friends today because up with my with my with my traveling and and or hours of work and things that are very supportive and then you just started to learn as much as you can or or work as much as you can and drinks and and competing. Okay. So the first part that I am saying on my return this is just after the recession that's a lot of bars were shined down a lot of businesses over the UK were shutting down. So it was quite a worrying time and managing a part-time job in a bar called Coba which was a private member's bar that I just opened its doors. So they had their public Bar in front and the other members area at the back off. So I got a job there. I had a cocktail list of about 92 different drinks had to had to learn them. So it was in at the deep end but I learned so much them and I've just got such fond memories of of going for my shifts there the asked me to be a duty manager, which was just felt amazing. It's nice to be able to do that. So soon after coming back into the country and really getting into the court Hills. They really told me about cultural competitions and and gave me a lot of tips here and a nice car and have my first call so calm was for a vodka brand. And it was the brightens Rising Star. I very Happily One that and then after a cord plug yeah, that must have been such a boost. I mean were you expecting it? Absolutely not. No not Embrace. I think the rules where that you had to be Bartending for less than like two or three years. I had to be like being Kids on the Block. I I did a drawing called a district 13, which I still think is a badass name. I love that. It was off for kissing on French flavors and or French ingredients with an Asian Vibe. So I looked at and ghettos around Paris and in Project 13, you have like a like an Asian area that was actually really rough area and you wouldn't go there as a tourist, but you had Is markets and things so is that okay? I'll go these this Asian influence in flavors of these French ingredients. There has to be the ambassador restrict their team. I love that name. I still do you love the story about how it came up with that wage. And but yeah, I forgot the confidence of of winning that which was just plastic such a good incentive for a young bartenders to really give them confidence as it did with me and a lot of other people that were there at the time and that's when I was was booked with a stick by the rep of the time I'm still friends with to be she's still works for from my company. She asked me to do the Jack Daniels birthday cocktail competition and that was in 2009 and I got through to the finals of that. So that's really where I mean, my love for Jack Daniels was still drinking juice and Cook's after my shifts in the bar. But when I started really delving into the history and the heritage of the brand and realized their merits it's not just a whiskey wage. Not just a brand is just as huge a huge story and you can imagine anywhere in our 150 off of a moving line since 1866 at Jack. So there's so many stories in there and getting to choose one of those stories of model a cocktail around that really intrigued me. So well, you know off every thing that I've read about you and every podcast I even though you have only found you on one podcast and other things that I've read about you I do know that you love the story of the cocktail lounge and so it's it's great to hear that and and the stories that each cocktail represents as well as Jack Daniels whole story. So but before I go into the Tennessee, whiskey when you after you had you know, you know you won that competition for the Jack Daniels competition or you're sorry. You were a final thoughts. Right, I was afraid but you were sorry your files after your finalists. Yeah, I know. I'm so I'm so very very better about that. But I still love the drinker so make the drunk today. But but yeah on on the day, I'm putting it down to the conditions of the the final competitions. We had up in Lynchburg and Tennessee off a barbecue. He'll it was absolutely Frozen and the ice was / quality as she could drink and it came out like a like a sludge rather than rather than a chilled cocktail. So but then again I should have I should have known these things, but I was still it was still a new bartender at the time. Look, you're the UK brand ambassador. Right you want anyone who won exactly you've won so but it's been a lot. It was a long time between when you were fine a list to when you became the brand ambassador. How did that just you know quickly or how did that progression happen? And and how were you asked them or did you apply for it? You know, how do you find yourself in this position cocktails our cocktail competitions are fantastic. Not just for for gaining valuable wage techniques and knowledge of our spirits and cocktail culture, but it also introduces you to the some key people in the drinks industry. And that's exactly what happened with me. I mean Monday we still work together today. He is being one of the most influential people in my career and but off. The almost. Yeah, it's like my spiritual advisor. Really he guides me and tells me have you thought about doing this trying to do an estimate your profile a little bit bigger actually got me into working for a Jack Daniels Road or two more people. I'll give a little shout out to Craig Harper that used to do be a tactical matter for as it was back then Bacardi brown-forman. He invited me to come in and help him training and then Liam we are who is dead? She just did knowledge dumps and structured. I had my sessions and really told me how to be a trainer and these three people I wouldn't I wouldn't have this job today. If it wasn't for them. Great people to know they're still in the industry. I'm one more as well in McLaren who Wow, what he doesn't know about whiskey isn't worth knowing, you know and Anna me just sitting there with a notepad writing. Absolutely everything going from home guys was was just I was very very lucky to have but but then a lot of this why I think I'm still around today is just the experience. I know the stories Thursday through every one of my sessions is different because I've learned the stories over many years and I can be there a lot so I can talk about what I want to talk about on a specific day. And I think that says a lot I'm making it my own training even though I'm talking about this product and I'm telling people want to share on that specific thing some assistance on the Google the plus to my own head there is no no, I'm going to have I'm going to join you in a drink if that's all right. So of course, but okay. Why are you joining me in the dream? Why don't you of course because you have been a bartender. You can talk and make a drink at the same time. You don't know. Well, all right, I'll let you make your drink. No, no books. I was high as as brand ambassador. Well, okay, let's why don't we talk about Jack Daniels while you're pouring it, you know, tell me you know. My podcast and my site it's really about the home bartender. So why don't you give me the little Spiel of why ahead bartender should have a bottle of Jack Daniels own know in their cabinet. You know, what is it about it? You know, give me your little ambassadors feel. Well, here's why I am. So proud to work for a Jack is that there is so much Heritage. It was started by a real man just for Daniel Distillery was established back in 1866, which is if you're good at maths off and uh fifty odd years. I am not good at Maths for that sounds about right now with um, and I think whatever Brian's you pick these days, I think it has to mean something to you. And to me I respect the fact that it was starting wage. A real man and we're still going today with the biggest selling Whiskey in the world. There's no getting around that but there's a reason for that we're consistent. We must be one of the most consistent risk across the world just due to our size like anyone taking this about two point five million barrels of Tennessee over our Tennessee whiskey setting Aging in the battle Genesis, excuse me off and excuse me. I don't know if you can hear that there goes the coke life. Yeah. I think you need to believe in the products or I mean there are so we're spoiled for choice these days of what we can drink. It doesn't take a lot for a company to start a brand to pluck a name out of the history books and and post design a brand of writing the story that they've heard, but I get a lot of comfort and a lot of respect for this brand is still going dead. Since 1866. Cheers cheers to that link and Tennessee whiskey, you know, I think some people might be a little confused by that if they don't know, you know, there's a lot of us. Okay, there's whiskey their Scottish whiskey there's Irish whiskey their Japanese whiskey then there's purpose and then all of a sudden there's Tennessee whiskey, you know, it's on it's on the label. What does that exactly mean? Well, it's a fairly new category. It's been recognized. Am I Tennessee state government? It is basically an offshoot of of bourbon, but it follows even more rules and regulations should be classified as a Tennessee whiskey now, we've always called ourselves called ourselves a Tennessee whiskey, I think there's even a letter from one of the Proprietors of its dead. Regular mobile but it was a 1944. If memory serves me right when we were putting the product or registering the product page and the US. What was that? Basically, like weights and measures or something like that and they said oh, yes, well done. You've got a crack and bourbon there and regular model actually wrote back to to the service department said hang on a minute. We're at Tennessee whiskey and we're probably we're not a bourbon. We make a different than yeah. I kind of love that stubbornness about it, but it's only empty. There's no law that has been recognized as his former category. Now, you can imagine or I'm tied into so many of these arguments on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter wage. Um, Jack Daniels, isn't that Tennessee whiskey is Suburban? Well, well, this is how I see it as a private Scott also drink Scottish whiskey, I grew up on the same road rage is a Distillery that makes its Whiskey in the highlands and ages in the low beams. If you're quite accept another lowlands are different from the highlands getting right down onto that single borderline wage. You should be quite accepted and happy that there's this new category forming that's telling you exactly what is in the bottle before you buy that bottle or before you pour into your class. It's just a wonderful thing about today. Yes, there's so many products out there but there's so many categories and lists telling us what each of these bottles or categories is dead installed energy, but the highlands are all in speyside Campbellton and Angela and America. You've got rye whiskey whiskey corn whiskey Bourbon and Tennessee whiskey to name a few years a lot more than that, but that's telling us what's in the bottle before we part with our money and buy that bottle and take a look. Now there's yeah. Yes. It absolutely does make sense. And you know, I don't know. I mean, I think only good can come from it and everyone that image is getting caught up on it's just a bourbon. Yeah, Tennessee whiskey is I mean, it's it's doing you a favor by telling you more about the product has to be made in Tennessee took it has to be mailed through charcoal losing the additional requirements. Other than that. Yeah. It does pull all the same rules as a bourbon whiskey, which is the national bird of America now off that isn't the only thing that you make you make lots of other things like Gentleman Jack and even though technically it's not a whiskey cuz you're not supposed to add anything to it one of my favorites, Tennessee Honey off for you earlier. Yes, and I just saw a Tennessee apple and a Tennessee cinnamon so that you have a lot of things. So talk to me. What is Gentleman Jack off? A certain gentleman giant was the world's first double mellowed whiskey so when we started to innovate a lot more and trying to expand our offering at The Distillery, like all the stories really do whether you you see a funny bottle of a Scottish whiskey and an airport. That's only be made for Judy free has been specially made for Thursday Travelers are looking for something special. We only did this up until nineteen eighty-eight and Eatery Gentleman Jack was released and and we were the board were wondering what was happening at the Lincoln County process twice. So to be a Tennessee, whiskey and Melrose through sugar maple charcoal and a jack. It doesn't have to be 10:00. It doesn't have to be ten foot off. Daniels will mellow through 10 foot of sugar maple charcoal before it goes into the brand new child or Barrel, but they wondered what would happen if we put it through again after birth. It's been aged. It doesn't look through an additional 10 foot. It was traditional to reflect what this does is it just rains off those beggar Boulder cork flavors that our whiskey pictures from sitting in the book for x amount of years, but we know that it's a minimum of forty years because it doesn't have an age statement on the barrel and it goes up to a Jack to go up to about seven years old but Gentleman Jack is basically starts life as all members 7 or Jaguars Tennessee whiskey as I call it an English through that extra blessing and it's just means that it basically takes that big bulky hit and softens it down. It takes there that the Oaky flavors away or softens them analyze some of them sweeter notes. There's a lighter notes and maybe a touch more floral minty honey. And and and that's sweet vanilla and it really puts off. Right in front of you. Do you see it more as the sipping whiskey or you know also do used in cocktails? Well, here's the thing about Gentleman Jack as BCM Distillery with all the Whiskey's you can drink at any way you damn. Well, please and I love I love that coming from a whiskey family life. I've been sitting in bars before and I've had a whiskey when I stand up and someone's come up and had a go at me to which I will not repeat while some being recorded who I said to them, but but yeah, you can get anywhere you download please there's no pretentiousness about it. Generally Drive can be drunk neat. It is beautiful. I think that's actually one of the most important Whiskey's on the market of the moment. We have split the Jack Daniels range and too flavor categories we go lay back and mail food and spicy and big and bold dead. Gentleman Jack is laid back and mellow is not going to jump over the glass and and and so ring your neck and let you know that you're drinking Westie is softer. It's later as a lot more refined. So it's a used for separate. However, when you mix it in a cocktail because it's not jumping out and giving you all. This flavor is really going to work with the other ingredients off your cocktail user in my favorite. Favorite cocktail is a mint julep and for me, it's hands-down the best whiskey to use an age now when I go into a bar and order a mint julep be know that I'm a whiskey guy and we'll go straight to the top shelf logo, which whiskey would you like and blah no, definitely Gentleman Jack because these bigger Single Barrel whiskeys are big and bold and flavor are going to overpower them in and yeah, you're still going to taste the mint in there, but by mail doing the whiskey I'm taking away those big bulky flavors, you're putting on more of an even Keel with a mint flavor. That's in a mint julep. So for your your viewers at home, I mean Julie is is with the little couple of teaspoons of sugar and about eight to ten mint leaves and you just Stir It In A pewter cup with crushed ice and it's the most delicate with beautiful refreshing cocktail and it's just so simple but it takes a bit of practice to make them and it's one of my it's one of my favorite favorite cocktails and I will have to try it with Gentleman Jack now talking about this, you know, as you know, I was reading that as brand ambassador. You've you've said that you wanted to change people's perceptions of Jack Daniel and I was just wondering what you think the perceptions are were because while you're talking about it here, but I come home. Every Spirit would like I have no preconceived, you know conceptions. I just like it would taste good or to me. But what what how do you think people have seen it maybe in the past and are now seeing it since you've been brand ambassador? Yeah, good question. I I definitely feel that we're not the only one to two almost a victim of our own success or not. The only Spirit out there. It happens to to so many of them to get to a certain size and there's obviously me with my bartending package being in circles before when people said, oh no Jack Daniels. It has no quality. It's rubbish. But why do you think that because we're the leading selling wage? There's a reason for that. So it's it's just there's no passion. There's no craft. That's and I love reminding people. Well, actually we go all the way back to age. 66 and we've only had seven Master distillers and 154 years. So what I just did the math in my head and I realized they were in 2028 right now and that was such an easy some to do that so bad thing, but I love reminding them the fact that don't bring your own. Yeah, and I think luckily the trade and and bartender is just kind of is kind of being a little bit more. Reasonable with this snag one of the days where you would go into a bar and say I'll have a Jack Daniels in the bartender when you don't want that you want this. This is a lot better. It's all about what the cost Factor once and if the customer recognizes the label and they are expecting this flavor that matches perfectly with Coca-Cola then that's what you should give them money. But yeah, I definitely feel that for a while. It's been a victim of its own success. I love correcting people when you see that Jack Daniels is inferior to some of these I always ask God why why do you think that and I still I I love I love correcting them in a polite way of course and saying well this isn't actually true. We're still need every single drop in Lynchburg, Tennessee off and we've only had seven Master distillers making this whiskey and 154 years. It's is a I mean, yeah, maybe follow all the rules to to to call ourselves a Tennessee whiskey which was even more rules than a bourbon. Yeah and pigs and what I do I love is that you are always creating new things. I I I see that as a great thing. I'm so happy when I went to your website a little earlier and I saw that there was Jack Daniels and apple I was like, oh my God that cuz one of my favorite drinks is like an apple bourbon smash or an apple, Tennessee whiskey smash now, so that's Thursday. It even easier to make something like that. I see the labor the best way that the flavors have ever been described to me was by Jeff Master distiller, and he said that he was walking down the road in a lie. He travels a lot throughout the country promoting Jack Daniels, whiskey a bit of a brand ambassador himself. Oh, I bumped into a couple of guys wearing Jack Daniels t shirts a bit like yourself and he said, oh I make this stuff. Which of the range is your favorite you like the Gentleman Jack do you like the Tennessee whiskey at the old number 7 or do you like the single barrel and they said to him? Well, we don't actually like whiskey we just have a brand is pretty cool. And the flavors is taking Jack Daniel's Tennessee, whiskey and his mixing it with of Acure and and or honey or cinnamon in the Tennessee fire or an app A cure and the Tennessee apple and it really softens that big blow of whiskey. It's suiting up. It's it's putting a flame in there that that people like analyze them to drink these products and call themselves a Jack Daniels Drinker. We know that they're not really they're drinking alik'r off but really they are and there's still a license to be part of the brain and I just think that is so cool. And I think some whiskey aficionados there are what's going on with all these flavors. Well, if you don't like them and you're a whiskey fan keep to the whiskey that's fine that but these are fun off The Taste fantastic and and you know what their big Brands and their own right now as well. Yeah I can attest to it cuz I was in a good job. Stock which used to be there was one in London once you know a kind of a grill themed festival and there is when I had the Jack Daniels and honey and lemon-aid together and I thought I I have been drinking it ever since and that must be six years ago. I think in this one of the best drinks in the world and it's you know, I don't have to mix the Jack Daniels off together by myself. It's already in there, but now just to finish off I guess coming back to the stories. And I know when I was listening to a podcast that you did before and you were talking about competing and that you love to hear the stories. What would you think is one of your favorite stories that you've had while being a brand ambassador either about the spirit or yourself teaching though? That is a good question about excuse me on the spot. I have had such a dog. very Korea with Jeff Daniels so far as taught me so much about about this about that and that's a brand ambassador is not just about training customers like yourself or training bartenders. There's so much more to it, whether it's organizing cortile events or just drinks trainings or I've been so lucky. I've been with the company for you know often on not often on but wage thing off part-time and coming into full time. I've been working with a brand for about ten years now and throughout that time. I was lucky enough to to go back to the 150th celebration and adjusted to celebrate a hundred fifty years from The Establishment date, which was just wild dog. So good. It was drenched Jack Daniels bars in the parking lot. We had a stage up there with local bands playing and that was just something about remember until I am a lot older that's really really one of them that that stands out. Um, but as opposed even before that even before I worked with the brand it was getting to go to Lynchburg, Tennessee and compete to be the the Jack Daniels birthday cocktail competition, whether off of which I lost but it was still a finalist. But yeah, but those are two just amazing moments that wage but it's happened with me bringing it into more recent times are Arabic advocacy competition that we've got going is Tennessee calling unfortunately is taking a bit of a change this year due to the current pandemic and things but I'm sure we'll come back stronger than ever but I really love just giving modern-day bartenders this long trip of a lifetime nothing competes to to getting on that plane arriving in Nashville, Tennessee or Music City drinking Jack and Coke on the rocks and Tootsie's Orchid lounge or some some amazing singers are up there and in road trip and dental Lynchburg, which is an hour-and-a-half 2 hours away and just a whole thing. I'm so lucky to be able to do that as a career and every day for me is is just different and rewarding and but that's definitely one that stands out. In modern-day is Tennessee calling being a part of that and just giving bartenders today of the trip of a lifetime. There's there's something that will always remember and always cherish. Oh, I wish I could get on a plane and get there right now. Tell me but I listened. Thank you so much for joining me. Cheers again with our drinks. We'll see you in the bar or at least Berg absolutely. Well, hopefully we're allowed to travel to to Lynchburg. I'll have to I'll have to meet there sometime and I'll show you around. So you don't need Discovery. I can't wait. All right. Thanks so much. Thank you so much for having me as well as his top tips for the home bartender cam surprised me with his choice of dream bar. So if you could be anywhere drinking right now, where would it be? I think I know that you're going to think that's going to say Lynchburg, Tennessee. But you know what? This has been the first time I've been able to to get out of London or guy of near Brighton where I live I'm currently at my mom's house in Scotland and I love being back up home. So right here over that with you I get that wage. I guess it's more about what you have in your hand drinking right? Wherever you have a Jack and Coke. Well sort of Julep Julep cups at the moment, so I can't make him in Gillette. But yeah, yep. I've got a Jack and Coke here. And what would be your top tip for the home bartender? Top tip for the home bartender. That's a really good question. Okay, lots and lots of ice you need good ice every time I've gone to a house party or a barbecue and I've been asked to camp in a make a cocktail for us to serve at the barbecue even even a wedding or something like that. And then I get one bag of Supermarket ice over at an infected too cerebral loads of people if you're making cocktails local try and get as good quality is as you can and get double whatever you think that you're going to need. So that's my top tip. All that wage. I stock has got me thirsty and what better cocktail of the week to have on this Tuesday, then the Tennessee cooler made with Tennessee, honey, just in case you missed it any cocktail made with Jack Daniel's Tennessee. Honey is a favorite of mine, but the Tennessee cooler made with its home. Of apple and ginger. Well, it had to be our cocktail of the week. First fill a highball glass to the brim with ice then start by adding in 50 mils of Tennessee Honey add to that 50 mils of apple juice then top it all up with ginger ale and then stir gently finally garnish with a lemon wedge. You'll find this recipe plus more Jack Daniels recipes and all the cocktails of the week at a Lush Life manual. Com where you'll find all the ingredients in our shops. Thought. I was supposed to be visiting Lynchburg Tennessee this year, but like most travel essential or non it's off the books until our lives are back to normal. Whatever that is dead. Still you can enjoy a bit of Tennessee by watching my guilty pleasure the TV show Nashville on Hulu. Hopefully, you're a country music fan. Like I am If you live for Lush Life, make sure you're giving back to the bars You Love by donating or taking part in cocktail delivery or visiting one now that they're open theme music for life life is by Steven Shapiro and used with permission and Lush life is always and will be forever produced by Evo Tara and simpler media Productions, which leaves me to say the wise words of Oscar Wilde all things in moderation, including moderation and always drink responsibly and wash your hands and wear a mask. 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Jack Daniels $125M tariff bill, Birds new scooter targets THICs, and GameStops 36% plummet

Snacks Daily

15:55 min | 1 year ago

Jack Daniels $125M tariff bill, Birds new scooter targets THICs, and GameStops 36% plummet

"The. This is Jack this is snacks daily. It is Thursday, Hyun six Jack. What are we thinking about this? This is the best one yet ready to go. Let's do this. We're talking straight up. TBO markets, feeling the vibes to Jack headed markets do markets inched up there still honeymooning from yesterday's positive signal from the fed that the feds got markets back. I'm feeling the honeymoon vibes three wonderful stories. This is like a serious mix. This is your meat potatoes. A little bit Carville veggies. What have we got that we're starting it off with Jack Daniels poor this one hour, Jack Daniels. Be careful of your shoes when you board out, but still pour out owner Brown form just revealed to the world. How much the tariffs from Europe are going to cost it, and that's one hundred twenty five million dollars? Jack I've said it once I will say it again. Good thing you and I or Cosmo's guys second-story game. Stop stock fell thirty six say it five times fast yaks. I could barely barely say at once it's following noble. Playbook, though which is concerning. We're not sure that's a playbook. You want to open up. It's not any book third and final story starts with six thousand five hundred seventy dollars. I like that. That's the value of a New York City parking space. It says a lot about our unicorn of the day, and their brand new product. We're talking about bird, the east cooter FINA. Very nice another key number that we gotta talk about today. Seventy five Jack where we talking about seventy five years since d day which was June sixth, nineteen forty four. We're talking about the turning point of turning points. Turn on a dime World War to spend seventy five years. It was the start of the end of the war and something we should never take for granted. The average age of a veteran at this point is ninety six years old. I learned yesterday that only four percent of World War, Two veterans are still alive today. So if you know, one today is a great day to give them a phone call. It's worth thinking about, and there's like one part of that we particularly love it was a. Multi-country effort. Dida was Ritz Canadians Americans the whole team got involved now to first stores. Daily. Some legal food said candy, they don't reflect the views rob a her family. Just so. Mended. Any securities is not a research report or investment advice, Natta security, next. Visit you? LLC member. PC for our first story Jack Daniels owner just revealed losing one hundred twenty five billion dollars because terrace Jack Daniels, you deserve a glass of Jack Daniels. Right. Are yourselves? Jack sales were up two percent over the last year. They had been up eight percent. The prior year for Brown Forman the owner of Jack Daniels, the cause of the slowdown. I think it was tariffs. So Jack who is this mysterious figure of Brown Forman Brown? Forman owns your parents entire liquor cabinet all the stuff you can't afford. This is we're talking based in Louisville. They've got Finlandia vodka all the way to, like, Schambori whatever the heck Shum board is it's no Chambord is, but Jack Daniels is the golden child asset of Brown Forman. Okay. So before we jump in this sit down. Jackie wanna make yourself into grown here. I know that doesn't have whiskey in it, but it could have whiskey and bring me back to Twenty-eight teen. What was going on? All right. So President Trump kicks off the trade war with. With first tariffs on China. But then very soon after tariffs on European aluminum and European steel, the Germans the French the English. They were not happy, not the sexiest tariffs, but tariffs, nonetheless, what did Europe respond with Europe responded with a personal attack placing tariffs on Harley Davidson, Levi's jeans, and Jack Daniels, whiskey? If you're could've tariff, Bruce Springsteen, they would've done it themselves. It went after Americana now, yesterday we learned in Brown form. It's quarterly earnings report, just how bad those tariffs have been get this sixty percent sixty percent of American whiskey, that's imported by your, it's Brown form and own and bear in mind Europe loves Jack Daniels when I was in England, Germany the two. European places have been Jack Daniels was everywhere. So this has resulted in one hundred twenty five million dollars in annual lost sales Brown. Forman CEO is taking this personally, because he should be taking this personal. You ready for the quote? Straight from the we viewed these tariffs as a targeted campaign against Brown form. You can like feel the emotion when he's talking to that thing, he's like yelling out to Europe to just give him a break over here. Well, the funny thing is yes. Brown form. It clearly was targeted against you because you represent America. So in case you're wondering. Right. Maybe they can just relax after all this. Nope. No, no. They can't. It's not just their whiskey business. Now they're Mexican business, which is tequila, Mike, get affected by new tariffs that are scheduled to kick in this weekend. So check what's the takeaway for buddies down in Louisville. Over at Brown Forman. It's a good thing that at least liquor is doing better than beer we have talked about this, and we kind of preached about it on snacks daily that, as millennials drink less drinking a lot less beer. But like a few spirits that are living their best lives and Brown form and has a bunch of spirits that despite tariffs are doing well in this shift from Molyneaux tastes, yet, can you take me on a little tequila? Sunrise, dress shirt. Hera ever heard of it. I could barely pronounce it. But Keila I'm serving at my wedding, this summer and it's older Jack is been struggling to order this stuff because he hasn't even been able to Google pronounce Brown forms to kill shelve his Hera, and L humidor, both of which sales rose thirteen percent last year. In fact, Amanda so high that Govett the critical ingredient in tequila. It's at record highs just trying to keep up with demand, so Brown for guy serious tariff problems. But at least it's not suffering from like this beer trend and it's really happy. It's not a beer company for our second story game. Stop stock gave games. Nicely unique New York just plummeted thirty six percent because it deleted its dividend. Investors are completely done with this company. We are Jack this one is a little harder for me to really do. Because the only thing I can play Mary cart, and like throwing multiple bananas. I got like three words for you dibs on Yoshie what is game? Stop three. Other words, it's pretty much the laya video game stores. They're like everywhere, nation to nation if you're near a mall. It's in that corner of the mall that like your mom kind of made you avoid and drag you away from on your way to like banana Republic, and it's actually at every strip mall. Probably next to the Chipotle. Ironically, Jack three more words, what's a dividend? Dividend is a lovely thing. It's a cash payment that companies pay their shareholders just like grandma, sending you birthday check except they happen every quarter. Now just like with grandma, you don't want those checks. To stop for multiple reasons and they just stopped for games game stop canceled its dividend. It's a sign of tough times. I know I know that feeling game stops revenues fell thirteen percent last quarter. It was an ugly earnings report, even it's used game division, which is its most profitable line sales were down. Because if you're, you're basically just this middleman here you're in between the gamers, who just want games, and you're in between the game, who just won't gamers. And guess what? It's twenty nineteen people are downloading games, or just streaming them online. So there's like no reason to go to game stops fifty seven hundred stores and the new XBox came out that I don't even know how it works. It doesn't even take this. It's a fended by this is pretty funny and game. Stock is not stocking that XBox, because it's a fended that it's making it obsolete. Now game stop stock stock is following a Barnes and nobles playbook. That is highly highly concerning. It's true. This is alarming in two thousand eleven Barnes and noble, cut its dividend. And. Said it was to invest in its digital book strategy hasn't gone that well for Barnes and noble because I haven't seen since I had just haven't seen a nuke actually. No. You really haven't. And then yesterday game stop is cutting its dividend to invest in transformation initiatives, which is pretty much digital games. Sounds like a secret a turnaround is possible for company like game. Stop but cutting its dividend is like a freaky, scary signal right here and this whole story sounds a lot like Barnes and noble. Sue jack. What's the take way for our buddies gaming who've stopped over game? Stop gaming has had no leader for like two years. Bake me, do your leader. They're on their fifth CEO. They don't even know who to bring you to the Lincoln pages like completely messed up. You've got three people to endorse for executive capabilities, Nick, let me underline what you said, they're, they're on their fifth CEO since November of twenty seventeen when you have that much turnover you're like restarting every few months with a new strategy from the. Top. That means you've got no strategy. You've got no new initiatives and two years of no launching something. In video game land is not a productive two years for our third and final story unicorn of the day is bird, the micro transit for people who are scared of the subway, but kind of like a veteran and don't want to own a car. It just rolled out a new bike slash moped cruiser thing. It's actually really cool to will vehicle. We're gonna have this up on our Twitter. This thing is actually very neat looking like this is how you should roll up the stuff and it all starts with sixty five hundred dollars, Jack a big number sounds kind of fancy can you break down. What sixty five hundred dollars signifies Goldman calculated that, that is the value of New York City parking spot. If you have the pleasure of owning one. Right. That's not the monthly amount you're gonna run out for that is the value of that land, if you were to sell that thing, right? If you own a parking spot, you should try to sell it for sixty five hundred dollars in San Francisco, the cost of a parking spot. It's like minimum two hundred dollars a month. If you're lucky, that's where it's starting. Okay, so car ownership, your car payment insurance gas like oil changes. It already costs thousands and thousands of dollars. But in cities, it's even more. And if you have a friend with a parking spot, you hate that friend. And do you have deep deep envy for that friend? And this is what leads us to bird, which is like the OG car. Subway, alternative company scooters? It is now worth over two billion dollars. Now, this one is kind of personal for us. Because Jack night we love a Good Friday afternoon after work, just a scooting around on a little scooter on around. Yeah, we're talking about shared fleets of electric scooters, and mopeds. And in New York City. We'll walk you through how works neck like you just finished a long week of work. It's gold. It's golden hour. You look good. You don't wanna go underground the wind going through your hair, a little bit, or at least over a helmet. So you open up your bird or scoot app, and you look at it like Google maps, and you find a bunch of school. Our on street corners near you. And then you walk up to, and you can activate that scooter boop, boop, boop, it was are two D two with your app. Perfect you get on this thing. You're moving away, by the way. Just throwing this out there. How convert is not partnered with Tinder or another dating app to like, make some kind of tandem situation happen. You just like cupid a brilliant business idea. I like this guy should run with it. Now birds rise, a lot faster than cards because we've in your through traffic and the cost is four to seven bucks per ride. So you're getting pretty cheap deal. Yet you cruise by the cars that are stuck in traffic. Everyone's giving you the stink eye because they wish they were on the scoop going as fast as you are. They're faster. They're cheaper. They're more convenient, because you don't have to walk to the subway station. The only flaw is you have to once you get off call all your loved ones survived the. Yeah, they could be kind of dangerous. So bird does an Easter share that Nick. And I have used out and we're going to tweet out a picture of it, but it's also starting to sell hardware like real vehicles for people who want to own their own scooter. We're talking about the bird. One scooter, this thing is like thirteen hundred bucks and it goes like what thirty miles thirty miles per charge, but yesterday bird announced the cruiser which is a really cool looking thing. It's not for sale yet. They're just going to include it in some of their shared fleets this summer. This thing has got wider tires because the last thing you want is like hitting a bump when you cross over viz. Yeah. You don't want the bump to knock you off your skew. And guess what? It's got two seats, two seater my tandem idea. I love this and you're sitting, you're sitting, it's not a standup, scoot. So it kind of looks like a Harley. This thing is a great way to look a lot cooler than you actually are. And that's why I'm very excited about the concept. So Jack what's the takeaway for our buddies over at bird? There's a big market for urban micro transit like bird scooters, Jack can you tell me about thick the word? We created its next daily, you know, that bird is targeting the thick, which is t h talked people who live in town using it, Senator higher nurse. Very nice. And they're Carlos jobs are consolidating these days. They're just consolidating big cities. And that's where car ownership happens to be the most ridiculously expensive. Okay. Incomes are high parking spots are scarce public transit, like New York City subway isn't getting any better anytime soon. So that's why companies like bird and its buddies Uber and lift their seizing on this. Opera -tunities with micro, transit because it's all about the thinks Jackie with the takeaways for Jack Daniels is losing one hundred twenty five million dollars a year because of tariffs. But at least it's not losing drinkers like beers, and at least we're not the only people who don't know what Sean board is exact game stop is missing out on all the video game these days and it's also had missing out on leaders these days. It's also very curious that it's pursuing the Barnes and noble playbook. We would love to hear more about this game south. Let us know what's going on third and final story birds, two-wheeled scooters, and bikes targeting the thick socks. He ate, I see live in town, your high income, and you're Carlos like all of us love that. So Jack, let's, let's get to this. Factor today, here we notice a little development and then we dove a little deeper. Walmart is getting rid of its famous blue vests that it's one of those in the stores. I know why they're doing this kind of works with everything. I mean because you can wear it every day. I'm kinda surprised so snack today, WalMart employees, one out of ten Americans who are working in the retail industry, that is two point two million Americans, which is not a small, and that's a lot of Americans which is why we're glad the CEO is calling on congress to raise America's minimum wage, which is adn embarrassing like seven fifty nationwide. Now a couple of other key stories in our snacks, daily newsletter, Jack what are we krone us the Canadian cannabis company, the stock rose eleven percent because of a big upgrade? We'll tell you why. And then Amazon whipped up a brand new kinda freaky, looking drone airplane thing, and it's worth checking out newsletter. Now staffers, we love snack fax the day that you send us in so please hit up our Twitter at Robin Hood snacks. We love to hear from you guys. In the meantime. Brusher t take care of whatever you gotta do. And let's do this. Maybe tomorrow. How does that work? I'll see. You guys can't wait. The Robin Hood, snacks, podcast, you just heard reflects the opinions of only the host, who are associated persons of robinhood financial LLC and does not reflect the views of robinhood markets, Inc, or any of its subsidiaries or affiliates. The podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to serve, as a recommendation to buy or sell any security, and is not an offer sale of security. The podcast is also not a research report and is not intended to serve as the basis of any investment decision. Robinhood financial LLC member, FINRA SIPC.

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Bumble stock makes the 1st move  A Bumble IPO plan. Jack Daniels K-shaped recovery. Amazon innovation in Brooklyn.

Snacks Daily

17:23 min | 3 months ago

Bumble stock makes the 1st move A Bumble IPO plan. Jack Daniels K-shaped recovery. Amazon innovation in Brooklyn.

"This is nick. This is Jack and this is snacks daily. It is Thursday September. Third Knicks stocks rose quite a bit yesterday but I heard that your portfolio fell down to an adversary. What are you? What are you own stock in like Tuesday dot Com and it was Wednesday yesterday. Things way this thing Jack I'm always imbalanced spike next financial pain yesterday. This is the best one yet he be Oh why Jack where we got first story over here bumble apparently want to IPO before the end of this year. Yeah we're GONNA have to wait until they make the first move that's goes down to Shay second-story Brown form is the liquor legend behind Jack Daniels and fifty Jack Daniels spin off waivers say this doctors jumped eleven percent because Bourbon is reflecting the current economic reality for our third and final story Walmart's online grocery delivery strategy makes shipping free they announced it yesterday Amazon's counter-strategy Jack Open a ghost grocery store in Brooklyn Online grocery delivery unprecedented and equipped that goes grocery store with hundreds of Amazonas to prow the aisles for you is the perfect perfect verb there. I, love that you did that but snacks before we jump into those three great stories, twenty twenty has been a bad year for humanity. So true great year for Michael Jordan his erronous aggressively true. Already the world's richest athlete Michael. Jordan is worth two point one billion dollars Aka a quarter of a lift. Then earlier this year, he got paid four million dollars to make a documentary for ESPN and Net flicks because he has had no sports to show then his sneakers day record auction price for the highest price ever Jack. The number six, hundred, fifteen, thousand dollars for a pair of Air Jordan. We're talking about the same Air Jordan Award Ward, an exhibition game in Italy nine, hundred, eighty five in that exhibition game in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, Michael Jordan, broke the backboard when he slam dunked and apparently glass shattered down and ended up in those shoes and remains in the shoes to this day. Now yesterday we learned it's not over with Michael Jordan fantastic year became the investor and adviser to publicly traded sports betting company draftkings that news was enough to make the stock of draftkings jumped by eight percent, Jack and I haven't seen that kind of board member impact sins, hands across. America. Since Oprah joined the of weight watchers back then like the stock triple weight watchers because of the Oprah we've said it before we'll say it again it's never been more true Michael Jordan the Oprah of sports let's hit our three stories. Daily. Stacks about the brain. Candy, they don't reflect the views of robinhood family. Informational just so Recommending any securities, it's not a research report or investment advice to offer or sale of security back. Business News Video. Financial LLC member. FINRA. PC. Four our first story bumble is reportedly planning to. Add evaluation of six billion dollars ASAP. So let's talk about what cove nineteen has done to the online dating scene snacker. Did you know there's like a surge in dating APPs going on right now naked I did not know full disclosure we're happily married dude here's the wild thinks knackers you'd think since going on a date it's like a health hazard online dating would be totally down right now. Oh, excuse me can I pause my tinder goal to count until doctor filed she gives his blessing from next day. No Tammy, you can't. That's very responsible. You'd be wrong if that's what you thought. Yes shocker Jack and I noticed that carnal desires are more powerful than economic forces these days since everything's closed and people need to date this, they do hinge or bumble or tinder are the only options for single smackers? No. I contact across the dancefloor situation the only eye contact with a tinder profile. PIC although I know soul cycle dates. After you're done, you're like thighs and hammers ride only a virtual video call this A. Random Stranger you've had like three messages with Oh and your new dinner night out. Jack. Can you please picture for eating trader Joe's Pad Thai in bed aggressively swiping through potential I are you even promoting yourself to get the shrimp these days? Few people are this brings us to bumble the beehive theme dating APP or girls have to make the first move by sending the first. Now, bumble CEO and founder Whitney heard also interestingly co-founded ten now that relationship with tinder didn't end well. So she launched Bumble A. Competing dating APP, we'll discuss it on a future pod but funny because tenders owner match group, which is publicly traded offered to buy bumble in two thousand, seventeen for four, hundred, fifty, million dollars just a few years later bumble is getting ready to IPO at six billion dollar big difference that space lift Whitney heard got the best of that break up but match tried to buy bumble because dating APP companies they got a thing for groups. Match Group owns everything they hone tender hinge plenty of fish are time. Okay. Cupid. Yeah. The whole family bumble meanwhile also other dating apps like lumine for daters over fifty or Chappie for same sex date and that bumble family of dating APPS has over one hundred million users. Now now, let's be honest Akers for both match group and bumble all these APPs use the same technology. They're just segmenting out the APPS by customer. It's the digital version of the gay bar. The sports bar in the farmers only bar all on the same block and according to PF wgm bumble stock will be. Available to retail investors like you and me in early two, thousand, twenty, one after its. IPO. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Bombay online dating taboo is completely gone. Thanks to cove it. We mentioned yesterday that many baby boomers are going to happen those tiny generation of babies conceived during shelter in place and the mini baby boomers isn't the only impact cove. It has had on love in, America? No it's also crushed any remaining stigma that existed about online dating because currently a one hundred. percent of dating is online date, which means we could have an entire generation of young couples that met exclusively online match group's website claims that forty percent of all relationships in the United States right now started online and we're bidding that's going to grow thanks to Kobe's mainstream advocation of online dating another accelerated Trent investors. Think it'll be great for these companies. Look at match groups stock it's up forty percent in two thousand twenty. That's probably why bumble wants to join them on the public markets by the way. This is nick and my first date with my future wife was on Shakshuka and that's why they adorable bought stock in shake shack four second-story liquor legend Brown Forman stock just jumped eleven percent. This is a Bourbon Company and we see a reflection of the entire economic recovery. If you look at their earnings reports, Daggers Jack Talking about Tennessee based company that's both your parents liquor cabinet and your spring trips. Jack Daniels Finlandia baths southern comfort indecent forster. Okay. And something nick jotted down in the notes here called. Shambaugh. Affirmative Raspberry, Syrup this is one of those. If you know you know situations absolutely comes in a velvety jacket great signal that it's interesting sales for Brown forman dropped by two percent to seven hundred, fifty, three, million last quarter how we feel about that Jack. Little the Road Jack. How did the CEO of Brown Forman display his appreciation for the QUARTER QUARTER UNQUOTE? I'm very pleased performance. Not Too excited but not too upset about it, and then the CFO steps up to party menu says we had a solid quarter Eugene Banat, tiny either we get these guys at this liquor company drink yet they sound like they need to loosen up like six PM on a Tuesday over there but we just told you snappers is that sales dipped overall the key here is that wasn't the Case for all their labels, let's start with the iconic Jack Daniels brand. Hales's Jack Roemer, which from my one trip to England is like a much bigger deal there than it is here in this day, they're also like a dozen spinoffs of Jack Daniels as Jack. Daniels Honey Jack Daniels Apple. I got the whole thing going on. There's actually one jack that was intended simply to stop fireball from. The booze mark. Honestly, it's like the marvels franchise ever hear they're coming out with a new one every month now sales of Jack Daniels, which is kind of their like mid Tier Bourbon they inched up by three percent nothing special but Jack, that's the mid tier stuff. How did the premium bourbons over at Brown forman dose surged by eighteen percent Nicholas that kind of stuff that you're going to order a neat. You're not mixing the Ginger Ale that we saw fourteen percent sales growth for Woodford reserve, which that fancy looking bottle that looks like it should be on your Mantel. It's empty. Boom, that thing could just be a wedding gift on its own. You don't need to do anything soul forester and Cooper craft or two bourbons that round out their premium brand segment and also performed extremely well, last quarter. So Jack, what's the takeaway for buddies over at Brown form? The alcohol industry nicely illustrates the K. shaped. Recovery that everyone's talking about all right snack because we gotTa Talk Alphabet Shapes over here Jack v-shaped recovery was looked like it's when the market tanks really hard but then comes back really hard. Yeah. W shaped recovery. It's when the economy tanks and then comes back a little and then tanks and it comes back. Back, can I buy a Vowel U shape recovery? What do we got? This is when everything goes to crap yeah. You stay in the basement for a while but eventually make a comeback books like use knackers. The shape recovery is a little bit different than all of those. This is the recovery that Christopher Sims or journalist at the Wall Street Journal claims were experiencing in the labor market, right? Now. This is when the recovery looks really good for some workers but just isn't helping a whole bunch of workers imagine the situation for Hospitality Workers Janitors people who work on food trucks. They're not taking part in the recovery and they're still collecting unemployment but then picture the people working at big tech in finance the lawyers they may end up way better off when this is all said and done. That's right. They may end up better off than before covid. Thanks to a booming stock Marshek. No commute no gas you have to pay money saved on not vacationing to Greece in June like your plan you miss out on that you're saving about ten grand on that thing. Now, we're seeing that K shaped recovery in sales of consumer products just like this booze company, the cheap stuff it selling fine. It's doing well, it's got a new audience for itself with the expensive stuff is selling better than ever before for our third and final story. Whole Foods just opened a grocery store that grocery shoppers aren't allowed in. We're talking to first delivery only grocery store has arrived and we're calling it a ghost grocery store by the way that did not take long Amazon's already stolen. Walmart's thunder snickers like less. Than Twenty four hours ago Jack and I were here talking to the microphones in you about Monday's Walmart plus news that was big for rural and suburban Americans Summer Ninety eight bucks a year membership for unlimited free shipping and grocery orders as long as they're over thirty five bucks great if you're living in the burbs but yesterday's wholefoods news is huge for Urban Americans but Americans who have no. Time to grocery shop because they're trying to catch the four train to catch the nine thirty dinner reservation. It's the only time he could get the earliest. Poss-. As. A reminder. Here's knackers in twenty seventeen Amazon acquired whole foods for fourteen billion dollars. It was a big deal and it has done nothing with whole foods since we're one of the most disappointing acquisitions ever chocolate covered this when it happened. And we were excited for it. We were expecting the grocery delivery market like it flipped upside down by drones we thought the food was going to be delivering itself to us before we knew we had to order it but the only difference we've seen in the past three years is like ten percent off for prime members. Maybe you go to check out our whole foods and you find out that. Didn't even apply to the four pounds of Mancha which brings us to yesterday. Finally, we got news of real innovation coming to whole foods. Thanks to Amazon in Brooklyn. Amazon just built a giant whole foods grocery store, but only people allowed inside our Amazon fresh delivery Grocers Knackers, we've told you about ghost kitchens before on this podcast, this is a ghost grocery store one, hundred, percent designed and built for. Orders you walk into this thing which by the way, you can't walk into the. In this thing. Talked Zone who works there and they'll tell you there are no like old ladies walk around squeezing mangoes or clueless guys on the phone with their MOMS about the vegetables there's no one trying to decide if mom asked for tuna fish, olive oil or tuna fish in water in I'll six blocking the ray for everyone else this parsley or is this Cilantro I'll get both? No one will know the point of these ghost grocery stores is that there's no regular shoppers like you and me standing in the way of people trying to make a delivery Jack expectant to sprout up in a bunch of cities where Amazon primers mainly. Live. So Jack the takeaway for buddies over at whole foods. This is Amazon's advantage over door dash INSTA- car and Walmart plus the other grocery delivery. APPs they send the GIG workers into the grocery stores to shop for you just like you would shop. If you order something insert somebody is going to go to Safeway and find your stuff. Yes. They will bag your stuff and then jump in the car and bring it to you. Amazon's dedicated an entire online only grocery store to just doing fulfillment. You'RE GONNA have one Amazon worker just focused on finding there and it's another just focused on bag nine. It's another Amazonian just. Focused on delivering the bags to you yet add all that up and this could make Amazon fresh, more profitable, more reliable and lower cost. Think about the reliability aspect. Sometimes, they bring you the Broccoli because the Broccoli ordered is out and that won't happen when Amazon is monitoring the grocery store and knows exactly who's taking what about the cost and speed fulfilling your order will be quicker with his Amazon thing because there's fewer people in the way block and I'll sit and then think about price is just objectively more efficient shopping and it lets Amazon either lower prices or take more profit door dash instagram at Walmart they simply. Aren't doing this Jack Kenya whip up the takeoff over there bumble will become the second dating APP company with a publicly traded stock. Nice timing because the stigma for dating. APPS. Officially Gun Brown Forman's earnings show us that sheep boost sales are doing okay as we shelter in place expensive blue sales are soaring because some are better off after covet for a third and final story Amazon just built its first whole foods just for delivery of online made orders nobody is blocking the tuna fish. So your groceries will arrive quicker by the way always get tuna fish olive oil. It's way bad. That's their natural swimming habitat in the Mediterranean. Now. Time Var snack back today this one sent in by Nick of New, York and Jack of Brattleboro Vermont. Interesting. We'll get to that in a minute now yesterday marked the seventy five year anniversary of the official end of World War Two. That came with Japan's ultimate surrender Jackie knows that at all marked the first time since World War Two that the US government debt is now more than GDP. Yeah. The US government more than our GDP kind of like your personal debt exceeding your annual income for the first not one of those records you're GonNa Brag about or want to. Yeah. We kinda get an exception to any consequences. So we're not really paying for unless we pass it on to future generations like our grandkids in grants grandkids by the way that's from me because we need your snack fax knackers, Elise send us your snack back to the day at Robin snacks on twitter before we go. Congrats to. Jeanine Cameron in Michigan who just got hitched and Daniel Laura Third Anniversary Omaha Nebraska Christina. Happy Fourth Anniversary in Fort Smith Arkansas Carolina John Not oppressed their thirtieth anniversary out in Wayne Pennsylvania G. Happy Birthday to Stephanie. 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Marty Smith's America The Podcast

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Old No. 7

"The Marty Smith's America podcast is presented by Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire y'All welcome to the Marty Smith's America podcast this is the seventy six installment but I'm calling it but it's so hard to win in the southeastern conference it just is and and when you look at the Big Ten east that's a real was fired and and so now they're in that coaching search moment and the rumors and the speculation areas already claimed and at four PM on Friday it's like a Dagenham stampede they want answers they want victories they want relevance they want all of those things that we as fans slash fanatics desire and I noticed immediately at eleven am or ten thirty am on Friday did there were already tons of weekend for me Travis I was down in Starkville Mississippi Ma I ever experienced down there in Starkville and what an awesome town and in a passionate university in a passionate fan base who is so engaged I was blown away we got there eighteen. SEC head coach is back during the summer that he was floored with what being a head coach in the SEC is happened to be better than the team that you just played and it's a learning process and there's all of these rumors swirling around Joe Warhead right now that he's the lead candidate to possibly go fill the rutgers vacancy which of course Chris ash one of your former buck is to the SEC nation bus it was parked there just in the shadow of Davis Wade Stadium Mississippi State's home stadium them cowbells going and it's an interesting time down there in Starkville Joe Moorehead's only coached nineteen games now and people are impatient you sit down you're watching tape on the game you just played it's the best team you've ever seen and then Oh my Lord you put in tape for the next opponent and they just Lee Tough League as well to me I I kind of feel like the SEC west and the big ten east are quite probably the two most Senate and by far the best crowd on Saturday morning for SEC nation that I've experienced in my brief time on that show they were loud they were rowdy they had like a bunk house stampede where people start to erect their tents and they're and they're tailgates and whatnot just a super cool Environ Prescott was there and what an amazing accomplishment of course mullen heads over to Florida where he's doing a tremendous job and Joe Moorhead the former Penn state offensive coordinator comes over he takes that job and he told McGee and me during the talk in season chats with all people out on this long called the junction in camping chairs hanging out listen to music toss and a couple of back and they had their tent Kohl leagues in all the country right now so be interesting to see how that unfolds as we progress through the season it's hard to build a program and Dan Mullen did an amazing job in Starkville they were number one the countryman number one in the nation when in some reporting says that Joe Moorhead is the candidate Finebaum addressed it with him very bluntly in fact and nobody really gave up any information and and I want to just go back to start over for just a minute the hospitality and the kindness week nine coming week eleven is that accurate I think maybe we ten what weakest drivers they all run together Bro I'm just trying to keep between the navigational B man okay week nine my bed and and so I I was so impressed with he'll be starting his ninth game I guess and and I'm impressed with what he's doing to to be so young able to do offensively right now in baton rouge will be there this weekend for SEC nation as the Auburn Tigers come to town with young Bo Knicks who's not so young anymore this common we're coming into we're going into week nine no we're not yes no yes good lord feel to it and Auburn these towns kind of have a very similar type field and I really enjoyed it the people were so nice the vibe in Starkville and I think one reason why I was so impressed with it is it reminded me of Blacksburg a lot it had a Blacksburg clemson kind Dan so poised is not an easy thing and that it was funny because when they lost a Florida at the swamp you could see that that that corralled and the ad and and it was a tough one for the bulldogs as Joe Joey football and the Tigers came into town. I'm just floored with four but it's worth retailing one year ago I was in Death Valley for the Alabama game and it was yet another game of the century a buildup LSU's good Bama was really really good and it's five fifty in the morning and fear and the constant blitzing todd Grantham all of that added up to a very difficult day for Knicks we'll see what happens with Lsu because their defense has been Holler at him he appreciates the offer but he can't take a shot or drink so just one of the greatest moments had and I know probably told it on the show but let's just be prepared here and this guy walks up to me KUNA possibly been nicer dress like darth vader he had a mega seven fifteen that night and I politely declined I said I've got a lot of TV to make today but you know the fastest avenue to my heart gene for us down there and we are what thirteen hours from kickoff fourteen hours from kickoff at that point and I'm standing there vilely granted it's a two thirty central thirty eastern kickoff a day game but nonetheless I mean it's still going to be loud it's still going to be crazy and the uh-huh they beat coach Brown and the Tar heels forty three to forty one in a dog fight and that was a massive win for Justin and I'm just kind of going through my report in my mind making sure I had a bullet points in my mind ready to go and this guy comes strolling across the parking lot self I don't care like the white out at Penn state last Saturday night that is elite I love that atmosphere it's amazing and they are weighs in it Clemson Amazing Virginia Tech Amazing by the way what a win for the hokies what what a win for the Hokey six overtime I have the amount of fans but like you said they get after it they are so loud and they are so passionate I need to look up what Davis Wade holds being Jack Daniels and I appreciate your hospitality I love that place it's different from everywhere else and Travis you've been there you can attest to that you've seen in question to him was how do you define this season because it's been difficult they've lost they're trying to figure it out now I'm not as good as what we expect some can he learned from that Florida Game Yeah it's GonNa be it's GonNa be a unique experience for him because it's in debt he already knew coach Moorhead and he's a really good passer of the football and he gets injured he's been banged up all year long so Garrett reader a kid from right here in Charlotte where I live real tall just good moxie about in toughest Woodpecker lips and they're still with white handles and he handed them to Jordan Rogers and me because he had given him Tibo and Finebaum there's I wanna say this to these universities are so hospitable when we come to town every one of them gives us the previous day and I was so honored that he brought me that they're shipping at home to me because I couldn't I didn't know how TSA would react to me having that thing can't bring weird stuff through TSA. I had a candle in my backpack so the again back to Mississippi state being awesome they these schools the difference is those fan bases don't Bay Jack Daniels it's just beautiful and but to the Mississippi state thing though pound for pound they are just as good hey it's still ringing in your brain what did you do with your Cowbell actually I had the ship at home so if Y'all didn't watch SEC local candle maker whether it's Whiskey when we were at Kentucky I had the Kentucky folks gave me for some people on like harmonicas at the airport you can't there's no standards for the airport Marty I mean you can drink at six. AM At the airport bulldog fake ice cubes that that you put in your drink they were plastic and there's a light I had a six Oh to central seven Oh two eastern live shot on sportscenter right off the top of the show we're going to Mardian death valley he's going to set the and I'm like what the Hell is coming at me right now and I say to Melinda Adams my producer I'm like honey turn around I don't know what's coming one of the nicest bottles of Bourbon you can have and I promptly gave it to our support staff I have my reasons anyway these amazing gift packs that are authentic to the town in which we're broadcasting it's it's all local fair is that the right word got his job I don't know that that might be too dramatic but I do know that it was it was it was massive man Shen coach Moorhead join us I give him credit man I give him credit for joining us own show he came on the show he answered all the questions that we had my opening they've had injuries at quarterback who knows how the season might have been different if Tommy Stevens was healthy the whole time of course Tommy Stevens a transfer over from Penn state phone in one hand and the handle the Jack in the other and he held that megaphone up to his mouth and he's pulled that trigger and he said Good Morning Marty welcome to Death Valley I love candles most days either we have a candle lit in the home or we are diffusing oil is that super hippy weird maybe Walsum Jack and I fell in love with that dude he offers me Jack at five fifty five in the morning I think kickoff was it because it's not nearly as big as death at sixty one thousand three thirty seven and named cowbells never stop and you hear it the next day V8 how awesome everybody is so they give us this gift pack at Mississippi State and it has light up how cool is this travis it had Mississippi state leaves and the reason that we do is smells like cinnamon and it's a great combatant of airborne illnesses how about that on a figure it out and he sat up there and he answered our questions when he came on the set he he was funny he had to cowbells with him they were they were Maroon with word is fair right I don't know if it's right I think fair might mean food but they're all local products whether it's a candle from and we do that nearly every day in in every bedroom in our home we do it at night like with this it's called and it was probably season saver I would say that that's that's pretty fair the dumb the difference with Lsu fans while a lot of families are loud it day in Virginia Tech Program they needed that win they they more the needed it it was a season could have spiraled if had they not like that thieves and we'll put eucalyptus because it opens up your your nasal passage and all these different different linking white inside the ice cube thing that's activated by liquid that's pretty nice your minds blown right now isn't it I'm thinking is way back to the candle I have this candle in my backpack and I'm going through the airport and I'm telling myself as I'm getting the I've been an advocate for forever and ever and ever and then Laney Somehow Laney got on it and Laney went and bought a diffuser and we put the diffuser in our TSA checkpoint guarantee you they're gonNA pull my bag because this tandel in there because it was cylindrical Oh and I fell in love with it I just love how smells it makes everything smell great and when there's all those health benefits attached to it as well why not we'll put and what's your like Goto kind of candle smeller diffuse we diffuse all more because of the health benefits of it in your business software and handles work for you so you can focus on the things that matter the most no more wasting your time on tasks they you know could be automated original B. Al they'll just be out a little bit earlier you spend speaking of those pirates I just want to let them know Marty can't accept shots at six am so when you see him I need the same technology but it was a locale I did bring that home I think I think it's somewhere in the depths of my backpack but anyway there was a candle in there and before we get to our awesome guest I want to tell you guys about Zappia when you're running your own business your to do list is never ending backpack heading through the airports I think you should have carried it just letting it all the way through the airport I've seen people juggling up there take it from there zapping your let you instantly engage with leads send them to a crm or spreadsheet then notify your team so they can act fast they don't pull my bag shares a day long bone they pull my bag I knew they were gonNA and I said to the lady Ma'am I got a real good idea what you're what you're looking you're fourteen day free trial Zappia dot com slash marty are y'all is the pleasure of my month to bring in this they did let me keep she sure did she let me keep it now before we got we've been blabbing on and on we gotta get to our guest endless best of all it's easy to build the exact solution you need in just minutes without writing code or asking any developers for help join more than four point five the other because I want all these different health benefits in the air while I'm sleep you're an oil oil mixologist yes I am so zero sense just go to our special leagues Happier Dot Com Slash Marty that's Z. 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Rt y you know you could automate many of the tasks you do but you don't know how to do it that's where's Zap your comes in Zap here's the easiest way to automate your work it connects all Whoa I'm shocked I'm more shocked with this the knowing that it's week nine coming up Yep I know might be a little shocking but my sister stacy a million people who are saving an average of forty hours a month uses appier right now through November try Zap your four free zero dollars ears of Jack Daniels have carry Jeff's title of Master Distiller Jack Daniel's Tennessee whiskey when you tell people your occupation how do they because that's exactly what Zapping your was built to do just go to our special link sappy your dot com slash marty connect the apps you most us and let we live that of I feel like I know you pretty well I've never known year affinity for candles and I'm actually kind of stunned by why we love them for in this compartment Ya opened up this way it's a candle and guess what Travis Alas it was that Damn candle you keep it and you know it probably looked like something suspicious in the x ray machine and I'm like all right if they pull my bag I'm not gonNa have time for a beer all right here we have a real special guest today on March Miss America Jack Daniel's Master Distiller Jeff Arnett Man I can't I've been waiting to talk to you for so long a pre are you taking the time today brother now it's my pleasure good to be on with you so just six other men in the hundred fifty plus like I said products sold in pretty much every country that allows whiskey to be sold I think you'll find it there when you think about the fact that you're one of only seven who've ever held other people are are a fan of the whiskey or not I think that's a pretty unique title and clearly very few people have held over the years I was honored To come to work at Jack Dean there's lemon there's orange there's something called breed there's peppermint we use all these different kinds and we'll even mix them together like a night I mix all different kinds every opportunity and that's scratching the surface ya'll Zappia supports more than fifteen hundred business applications so the possibilities are basically react you know it's I tell people all the time I walk in and so you know Hello I'm Jeff Arnett and they kinda look at you like okay and then you tell them you're the master distiller of it comes from the same Water source that Jack Daniel started with and built the brand on a hundred and fifty years ago so I think when people realize that is bigger Jack Daniels you feel like you're four times better than the president and almost twice as good as the pope just doing the math on it so but it's that title in that job of the most recognizable liquor brand on earth what do you think about well you know it is pretty special selene honor and I think it's an honor simply because I think the brand is is so strong and you know it's a quality I feel like with Jack Daniels what you see is what you get we're very arm and it was there he was told to make whisky that became his life's passion and from Very Humble Beginnings Today Jack Daniels name I would say you know household name and when you go I i read a piece that when you go to these other countries you're going over there and you're telling stories about Jack Daniels what are some of those stories that you're L. A. Great Whiskey is made it's it's a fun it's a fun industry to work in for sure and I'm honored to have this title what tasks are the majority of your days filled with Iran is it is how small it is at the same time you know people are maybe a little bit have a hard time believing it if you will but you know Jackson was a pretty interesting one countries but today is is moving up through the ranks so we have a developing whiskey palate there on the other side of the equator so we wanna make sure that people know as much about us manufacturer Made coffee juice drinks made salted snacks through that career that I had prior to coming to Jack Daniels as the quality control manager as they need to to make a good choice for us what's required of a whiskey maker that his drinkers wouldn't expect my background I think everybody two thousand and eight so I I'm serving eleven years now but it's been a great ride been to forty one different countries since then wow that everybody has what they need to make the best whiskey on the planet in addition to that I'll travel about fifty to sixty days a year how so that'll be all over has made and we'll make sure that you know every day we make it we make it the best we can that was what Jack Daniels instructed his employees years ago to do so I'm here to just make sure angels and then it's like okay can I have your autograph you know do you need help I'll taste for free and how did you get that job it's a conversation starter the number seven you'll understand why in just a bit when our amazing guests joins us and I'm not going to give away who that is just yet also honest and authentic brand in an industry that isn't necessarily always known for that but being able to host last year it was about three hundred thousand people who came from all over the US and also abroad so I just recently got back from Brazil that was my second trip to Brazil in Brazil has become a a market that you know fifteen years ago would not have been in our top twenty world took the tour here in Lynchburg for them to be able to see that we do what we say we do and engage them in that conversation but show them hospitality as well as and since eighteen sixty six there have been twenty eight US presidents There have been twelve pope's there've been far fewer distillers but I often tell people that when you're the master all but it every drop of it has made it one place and you know a small town just south of Nashville about an hour and fifteen minutes of south and Every drop does it all I started here's a quality control manager about eighteen years ago and then there was an opening just take over as quality control or as the master distiller here in ask for distiller comes to the to the role in a different path for me personally and I'm a native Tennessee and I grew up over in west Tennessee I worked for food and beverage I believe that you know he never knew his mom he was a teenager by the time his father had passed away with pneumonia so he was orphaned at a young age I went to work for his room and board on a neighbor who's thinking about passing through the area to take the time and stop but two beautiful time of the year here but so my office is right across from the distillery wherever drop of Jack Daniels it was three years ago we were celebrating our one hundred fiftieth anniversary and so big milestone year for us was twenty sixteen founded eighteen sixty six and I got me looking at it and something we're tasting the new distillate is being made then right after charcoal mellowing and then years later what's coming out of barrels so there's a lot of tasting that goes on here L. I oversee all the whisky making for Jack Daniels so that eighty percent of my days are going to be here in the hollow which is a beautiful place if you've never been here I wouldn't encourage anyone you here We have six hundred production employees but may Jack Daniels for the world and a hundred of them have agreed to serve in addition to their normal day job to also they were things that I was taught that I think have definitely helped me that we I don't necessarily have to taste every product every single day but that is an important part of what we did Zalin Jeff well you know I think first of all people are stunned because Jay Leno's is pretty widely distributed now you can find it in one hundred and seventy countries around the world visit official Whiskey taster so trying to people yeah so training that group of people taste and what the standards of Jack Daniels are we do it at every step of the process we're checking did you have to have to be a master distiller that you have to be able to taste without swallowing it do that house he gets it like the back of your mouth icing isn't drinking we cut it we reduced the proof we kind of put it in the mouth we rented around we spit it out so we're like doing mouthwash if you will so that's one of the great discipline over half of your flavor and Jack Daniels is not just a whiskey maker but we're a barrel maker as well so this takes some of the guesswork out of it you know some of the you know the randomness of what you're going so that is a clearly a big part of it but when we when we go to tasting things in our warehouses I would say that you know typically it's not that we're asking her Daniels we'll have not just a particular flavor but location that it should be showing up or favoring so there is some science behind the tasting it's not just you know when I go award in the mouth doesn't have too much finish single barrel creamy heavy making sure at the range big finish making a statement our old number seven Tennessee Chelsea is it good or bad but the question is is it ready or not Y- because there's a time over which is sort of brewing tea you know you can under brew it or you can and I'll usually pick some other brand that I'll tell them that's where I sent him to but realistically but realistically you know when it comes to make it I actually tasting is a little bit more scientific than you might think there's only one flavor type that's random on your palate and that salty you can detect saltiness pretty whiskey Jack Daniel's covers more of the things that have to come together to make a whiskey than anyone else because the biggest variable that you have is your barrel it's all of your color and I spit it out match I discipline that you have to have to work in this industry for sure what's taste so how somebody goes to taste or school ah say he knows one sample with your mouth closed make sure you keep your mouth closed on all the samples if you have an open leave it open to introduce a variable as your nosing part of what you do you can smell thousands of compounds you only taste for basic types of flavors tell people it's just you WanNa have like you'll want to repeat the form that you have oh home I'll still enjoy the product I don't necessarily think about it you know I'm just enjoying it like anyone else would but here I'm always considering okay you know if this gentleman Jack overbrook and the time that we spend in the barrel is very similar to that we're gaining color flavor complexity there's a time over which you kind of enter into that one would've been it's very difficult to tell good barrel from a bad barrel from the outside he's literally had to participate in its manufacturer to know for sure that everything is right course of a day working in single barrel area and won't feel you know that I've been impaired at all I can get in the car and drive home because you do we reduce the proof we rented around what what what is taste school are you teaching them how to do that without getting smashed I think part of it is you have to have good form so you know knows whiskey is it as balanced as I expected to be it shouldn't be fair any particular part of the mouth feel very uniform when it's in the mouth almost equal parts sweet and oak so Jeannie where it hits the tongue but everything else has largely grouped you have sweet taste buds on the tip of your tongue you have sour on the sides and underneath your tongue and then you had bitter taste buds located on the where hey it's achieving the balance the level of character that you want and then you don't WanNa go too far because you get dark and bitter and less enjoyable to drink to most so unlike Scott I see coming out of the barrel because we know when our would was cut we know how long it was seasoned we know that it was prepared on the inside the way that it should ought not good or bad in our world so how do you drink your Jack you know I I was a own number seven Tennessee whiskey fan these are the things that we kind of go through here making sure that from batch to batch or from barrel to barrel that we're putting out something is not going to disappoint someone how often is it perfect versus your Tulsa you know about my standard job I wanna be getting into that but you know people ask me what I do with my bad barrels brand that drank when I first guy here though becoming quality control there was an opening to take over single barrel and single barrel is absolutely loved back of the tongue and throat so what I tell our tasters here is it's not just what you taste but it's where you're tasting it on the Palette you should pay attention to because each of our offerings from Jesse now I got here That was I was in the Fan Club of Jack Daniels a word of mouth group that's called the Tennessee squires association I'm in and that was the single payer when people ask me which is my favorite are expressions that's the one I'm GonNa Point to and I'm typically Iraq's drinker because I say we have a four seasons climate here but you know whiskey that reuses are barrels and doesn't in a in a moderate climate warm climate actually a full four seasons climate so we get very warm summers and we'd get cold winter that relationship is you know it's been such a staunch advocate of the brand you know I would say if you go back Jack Daniels history into the mid fifty I Wisk is expansive in nature so it tends to work its way in and out of the barrel in an exaggerated fashion here but it doesn't get better forever so always it's ready or not probably more warm days and we do cold days and that can be one of the challenges of drinking brown spirit is that it can warm you up even further so I don't nineteen fifty five until the late seventies early eighties so about twenty five years there was you know we were running off the shelves there wasn't enough product supply the world his endorsement because his endorsement that was the main thing that happened during that timeframe but we tried to make sure that he never went without you know if he was going to be doing Russell I'm aware yeah yeah I met him about eight years ago when he picked his first barrel and he's gone through many barrel cents what do you think the impact on the concert if he was throwing a party this house so that was sort of the way it worked is that we just to thank him we just made sure that he had what he needed wherever he was and that's kind of how it's been we we love Eric we've been a fan of his music for a long time it's been great to be able to to go out and and work together as he's built his own personal brand uh what I call a gentleman's agreement that he just he loved Jack Daniels so he he created a shortage of it we couldn't make enough Jack Daniels he was yeah so I've met all of his children and Tina she's been closed three things in his casket before they closed it and that was the role of dimes and a pack of cigarettes Aetna bottle of Jack Daniels on those are the things that she felt like personally him and that he would one in there so but yeah then you get someone but that was always a the ice but I am a rock drinker I'll ever Dana single barrel this I guess one of the things I have in common with with our common front Air Church he's a big thing guys well and grandfather was Dan call and now call is the store owner who taught Jack it's GonNa be that's the way it was with Frank we have other artists that we have a similar arrangement with that once we know that they're you know organically wire in two thousand four two thousand five and the way that happened is very weird so my my great great great I never knew him to drink one drop and he didn't love how much I love Jack Daniels but he had this unbelievable pride that how to distill whiskey and I randomly said that somewhere and the folks at Jack saw or it was brought to their attention that I said that with Eric he let us know that he was a Jack Daniels Fan we could clearly see that with the songs that he sang and other than just the personality is that he was a he's there was a similar relationship with Frank Sinatra and he had and he has a lot to do with I think why people know Jiji knows brand name today he made it my household Jack Daniels you know I think what area understands that there will be historic has certainly risen he's a great guy he's deserving of it super talent then he's worked hard to get it And Jack Daniels we'll we'll be here we were here before his success won't be here after his success but we'll always be friends was history and his old tattered copy the part were Dan calls mentioned and in in Dan Calls Influence on Jack is mentioned was a true Jack Guy and he said kind of the same thing that he said you know what really want this to be some type of complicated contract you will deal just a fan and you know at our family was in some small way involved in that brand and that brand awareness and and of course back in those days whiskey was seen as having medicinal properties So you go into general store there's not a pharmacy per se I think it was released in nineteen sixty seven same same year I was born but it was recently re re released so there's been I think some renewed interest around it but and it's funny because my grandfather was the preacher man in George Patton's Third Army never knew drink and they're just inside their Jack Daniels Person We do our best to take care of them from that point forward so the Jack folks made me a score same holding it up on stage and calling the nectar of the gods and he's a lifelong Jack Daniels drinker was literally buried with a bottle of it when he passed away and it was always yes you know Jack was orphaned at a young age I ended up on the call farm also your great grandfather great great great grandfather and there's just you know you might have an alchemist who works around the general store and they have a medicinal whiskey based and they'll take different herbs and ingredients and different remedies out of it so you know whiskey we're seeing you know not for just entertainment or for social views back then it was medicinal as well so you see you see that here as well that we have people who are bi vocational preachers Who have been cutting whiskey thanks for thirty five or forty years we're a tribe people love Jack Daniels or this Colt how do you define the Jag Daniels culture you know I it's hard when an on again I never knew my granddaddy take one sip but he had a he had a copy of that book that really lays out the Jack Daniel you guys WanNa be on tour with me and here's how you can help and I'm so that's the way it works it's just been a handshake agreement with him but you know admirable qualities in it transcends generations and career choices and ethnicities and and everything so a biker to a banker and we see that you know everybody from a C. Suite white collar people to you know the people who work a site that there is a prototypical Jack Daniels person to your point you know we there have been saying that you know the Jack Daniels drinker is to be anywhere from it look at the Jack Daniels brand and say that that says something about who they are that they've you know doing things right valuing hard work or Knbr jobs but there's something I think that binds them together maybe it's work ethic it's the valuing of authenticity independent I think things that they so they preach on Sunday and they may whiskey through the week It's just what we do here we do Jack's following is unique like than we've ever had before we've tried to be thoughtful and not put too many products out but you know we wants there to be something from Jack Daniels that fits you know all the occasions right now it's been going through this resurgence with people were whiskey cocktails are about as popular as they've ever been kind of highlighted like in nine different colors man oh yeah he was so proud of that yeah that book is called James Dean's legacy yeah it was written in the branding the product line I love hunting I love fire but and I just got apple what should I expect well seeing the same popularity they had back in the fifties and sixties back in the mad men era Where where whiskey was so popular this is awesome though but but is excited about Jack Daniels as the people who are here making it you know kind of gives you energy to get back in there and you know do your best you know that people are counting on you you know honey and fire have both been fantastic products for us? A lot of the people who drink honey would tell me that they weren't a Jack Daniel's drinker beforehand the one of the strongest product launches and Jack Daniels or our corporate companies history so we would say the market was right for it they were right thing that people would say well I don't drink flavors no I don't drink the Jack Daniels flavors or anybody else's flavors because in general I think they're too sweet I think apple got a massive following all over the world as I've been able to travel forty one countries outside the US you know to to go to Brazil and see people just life and reach his most of the consumers that are out there looking for quality products so that's that's been fun thing for me to be here the last eleven years because whiskey is extremely popular I know that you know people love love your brand when they're willing to go to that point to say you know they walk into a bar and they're out of Jack Daniels they're going to drink water because they're not going to drink anything but but you know part of it is we've taken our portfolio from three products up to eleven and I think that has more to offer the the how deeply do you judge me mix Jack Daniels was something else well you know I would tell you that or they were a jd knows drinker but Jack Daniels didn't always seem to work in every occasion of life like maybe they were gonna serve you know a drink after dinner with desert and you know there's only a couple of them that I think you kind of have that type of a fierce loyalty and Jack Daniels is probably the chief among them so that lets you and I what I love about apple is I feel like it somewhat complementary to the other two that we have put out some people will take the Tennessee honey and Tennessee synergies between them you know when you put them together it's like two things that you like and it's just they elevate one another for sure so you know I'm more of a rock drinker today are into a blending between them party called a red hot honey or a beefing so people come up with funny names for them but I can easily see that fire now it calls out at brand by name you know people will go in order Margaritas Gin and tonics or all these different types of cocktails but you know when people order jacking when people order Jackie Apple are also going to cross together people going to call it an apple turnover mom's apple pie or something like that but definitely cinnamon and apple work well together but this is I tell you you know they're very few brands out there that people are so loyal to that they will tattooed themselves with your with your brand is our best attempt to this point to kind of get something out there that has a great level of flavor but isn't overly sweet I'd say it's just we'd enough it's a green apple it's sort of crisp and and fresh tasting I expected to do very well great company on and it's good that our products you know can get along in the same glass together as well as they do is there any particular talk about your brand that makes you kind of humbly on one of those guys so so you were discussing the expanding the X. The picking and hopefully that when they tried to Tennessee apple they're going to like it so I'm a Jack and Coke Guy I'm Donna number seven and Coke Guy ever try and Jack Daniels was in that format and it's been around for a long time it's I think it's still the only cocktail in the top ten honey has been you know sort of a product that allows them to bridge into that occasion but there is one I would say calm and yeah so it could be you know full barrel strength or it could be some diluted form of it based on what the the bartender the you know the the very first time I you know I was at Tennessee Squire before I came to work Jack Daniels but the very first time I had Jack Daniels was a jack and coke so I certainly made no judgments coke they don't mean just give me a bourbon any cola maybe I won't I won't both of those brands together because something magic about them when they when they're together about this the initial interest in orders the immediate take away that we're seeing because it's only been on the shelves for about a month now As or the Jack Daniels Brandon we're still in a square bottle to this day you know it's become an iconic you know I think thing that people recognize you can take the jets and that the statement was that you know finally a bottle as unique as the whiskey I make was what he said about the square bottle so he chose it yeah before going from from barrels two bottles there was a period of like ceramic crocks That also that you say a lot of times or neat especially if it's going to be a really nice whiskey but I will still order jacking coat from time to time it's very nostalgic for me because it's sort of like my my I remember it says the story behind the square bottle would have been several that I've that I've been told and one of them were that you know of course Jack Daniels started off selling whiskey like a Lotta people back in the eighteen hundreds and that was in a barrel so just be sold that way and you put a spigot in the end of it and just there's a story here that that Jack Daniel really did not want to go into a bottle he felt like it was come Outta -tising his brand to some degree he okay everybody's GonNa look the same and he was opposed to it and really did not embrace going into a bottle until the salesperson showed up here with a square bottle you know what that was what was driving getting out of barrels and into bottles with with what I call more consumer protections in place but when I was a kid and so I've loved Waylon Jennings my whole life right and Waylon has the famous changed over the years you know it's always been a black label it's always had white lettering how much content it carried when I when I first came to me out of it over time people would begin to realize that as bear would get empty they would kind of backfill it there was nothing to prevent people from adulterating the product what is the story behind the labeled as I know it ain't Whelan's guitar what's the story behind the current label design is kind of interesting because we have bottles that were produced back in the saloon keeper decided to do so there was more and more push to get things into bottles we had labels that had legal statements on it so you're kind of guaranteed equality purchase ever had children of his own he will but distillery his nephews but they kind of carried on the same path is that we want to reassure people that they can trust our brand fender telecaster guitar right I used to look at the Jack Label Daddy my daddy had and be like man it looks like Whelan's guitar that's bad ass And that was the statement that they said that J Daniels said he wanted it in a square bottle because he was a square dealer and that was you know part of his his mantra was that at a time evidence of it going into the market was in the late night like it was before nineteen ten some people thought that they put a black label on it when Jackson You know all goods worth price charged that was what his nephew but on the case years later so that Kinda carried over Jackson that maybe there was a lot of smoke and mirrors going on that people could trust his brand I'm I'M GONNA put my whiskey in the square bottle because I'm a square dealer early nineteen hundreds prior to prohibition in many generations of black and white labels on square bottles that go all the way up to today it has it was about twenty years ago there was a lot of stuff on the label if you looked at the sides of the Front there was just I told somebody will take you about five minutes a couple of specialty bottles of legacy labels for people to collect but the black label our first documents he knows label off of our bottle and people can look at it and still say that's a Jack Daniels bottle it's just I love you know always thought brand the original yeah the original label in Nineteen Oh four the label that one the first gold medal for the distillery was Green Label we actually did a retro world number seven Tennessee whiskey the black label version of it began to take off and it surpassed green label you can still find Green Label actually in some markets I WANNA say a few years ago and and try to clean up the label so just certain things stood out a little bit more and it didn't look too busy but I think we're we're kind of looking at it now saying you know we need Asian of that not that long ago in because a lot of people like defined collectible versions of Jack Daniels so we've done to recent just over the last year or to put out you know the when they're showing moonshine with you know the three X.'s on the on the Ceramic Rock Reno that what they've got in the in the container there but Well Yeah you let it trickle into the back of the throat but it's it's not enough that you feel impaired you know I I literally can take four fifty barrels I'll tell us forty or fifty barrels and active part of of Jack Daniels but you know it wasn't the first label color believe it or not and it was the first was that it was a green label annual passed in nineteen eleven but we actually have evidence that it was out before that so they had two different versions of Jack Daniels Green labelling black label but green label maybe a dozen of the US states will still carry it and it's a it's matured on lower floors of the warehouses that has shallower so clients it doesn't have as much allow sold black label up until around the nineteen fifties or sixties when Frank Sinatra held it up on stage and called it the nectar of the gods this was when really go back to putting their story back out there on it giving people something to read so you know it is become a distinct so that leads me to the label I won't keep you all day I promise this is just like okay now so the label is just like classic bad ass so it's great for us you know I think a lot of people b.j.daniels as an iconic American Brand Coca Cola I've got some friends who work within the coke brand it to read the label Dina's and all the different things being communicated on it so then they they took some of that content off how's that saying world man yeah that to me you know I've always liked the taste of coca I've liked the taste of Jack Daniels and there's a lot of that cool these the statement was that there was a saying years ago if somebody was a square dealer on that they were honest you know business person character of the barrel it's typically sold at a slight discount to black label because we actually met back more original whiskey from those barrels so we don't lose there's much to the soaking in the would and the operation year over year and we passed the those savings on to the consumer but still it's still like a really nice whiskey but it's just not as them in bags with lip balm and prepaid international calling cards but just you know giving the servicemen and women something to put in their hands before they boarded Lina made the long ride over to the Middle East to serve and as deployments became fewer and fewer we began to talk with people within the military community one thing that we love to do on on this show is is promote and champion and appreciate our military he but they do start with his grandparents and his grandfather was an Englishman and his grandmother was Scottish here and then when the nation went wet again in nineteen thirty three Tennessee stay dry until nineteen thirty eight so prohibition and Tennessee lasted fifteen years so you know what are the needs that they have that are not being met and what we were told is that a lot of people got stuck on base especially during the holidays a lot of time is up and then we were doing packet stuffing parties as they were deploying because it was much more common your ten or eleven years ago we still had two major deployments going on so we were so his relatives came from an area that had been distilling whisky for a long time he may have known enough about his you know great great great grandpa seventh generation distiller of families which is possible but you know it could be a lucky number could be a a recipe number they said he never married rose here domestically and all over the world keeping US free and you and your colleagues there Jack Having Amazing Program that I've admired number seven he actually wrote down or documented Y we'll call that I would say his nephews maybe had the best idea it called operation ride home explained to the listeners what that is okay yeah when I became master Stiller about eleven years ago we were we were working with the US according events and we were encouraging people as they were passing through this right a thank you card just to a service man or woman just anonymously We were collecting those all kinds of different reasons number recipe number you know the truth is we really don't know you know it was it was Jack who name the brand France to say hey I'm the seventh generation whisky distiller in a long line of them so he may have he may have referred to himself as old number seven he might have seen himself as the Oh and doing a a a program that was called the toast to the troops and we were running you know we have people going all over the United States to different events NASCAR events of what he meant by it it's just been the lows after right after prohibition they they put a whiskey out from the distillery and this was in the budget so they're having to make choices sometimes between buying their kids presents or traveling home and let them see you know their parents grandparents and everyone longer than it did in the rest of the nation but they came out with a whiskey that was called Lamelo which was nephew that he will the distillery to and on the sidelines terms if we weren't actively in some type of you know into military fight a lot of times they're allowed off for the holidays so we started the program I think it's now eight seven eight years ago is called operation at home we gave a hundred and one thousand This was you know basically an honor of seven girlfriends but I I really don't like that one because no no woman no matter how old she wants to be called old number seven that's bad list says whiskey made as our fathers have made it for seven generations and you know if you read that Jack Daniels Legacy Book Jack. 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It's GonNa Barn for an hour and a half. It's going reach. Temperatures closed eighteen hundred degrees, and when it's done, it's natural charcoal that charcoal be ground up into. Pieces and then using a process called charcoal mellowing wall. We're GONNA strip beer whiskey through charcoal. In. This is what makes us at Tennessee whiskey. This is gonNA. Make your whiskey extremely smooth, and this is what separates us from a Bourbon for more than one hundred and Fifty Years Jack Daniels has been making whisky this way going all the way back to the day when Jack Daniel, made it himself. Yes, he was a real person and Y'all are only listening to me because I have a kindle whiskey sitting right there. In Tennessee, there's a long tradition of Scotch. Irish settlers who turn grains like corn into Moonshine, but charcoal filtering. Let's not something they were known to do before coming here, so where to Jack Daniel, pick that up from nearest green, the formerly enslaved man who taught him how to make whisky. What nearest green did and what he changed. What we now forever? No is Tennessee whiskey coming. From business insider, this is brought to you by brand. You can trust brands. No stories. You don't on Charlie Berman. Donald. Jack Daniels is the number one selling whiskey in the world. It's been the drink of choice for celebrities and performers bring Sinatra to Bruce Springsteen, cowboys and western slug back shots and regular. Folks like you and me drink it. I'm partial Jack and coke with every sip you can taste colonel and Vanilla with hint of sweetness, but in each class there are also traces of our nation's history and the ongoing movement. Give credit to people who have been left out forgotten as the company. Jack Daniel's acknowledges the truth about its founding one woman is making sure the world knows that story, the one about nearest green, the nation's first. African American, masters, Stiller one seven at atomic. STAY WITH to understand the story of near scream. It starts with knowing more about Jack. Daniel and their friendship and the best place to do that is where it all began Lynchburg Tennessee. So I win. Zach Daniels. My name is Jed. I'M GONNA. Be Your tour, guide and Yeah! My mom named me jet. Yeah it happens all right. The distillery is nestled among the hills in Tennessee, walking country about an hour and a half south east of Nashville Ironically Jack Daniels is in a dry county, but don't worry. They let you get a taste of the whiskey. After your tour, we'll be covering history I production second, and at the very end of the tour. We will be sitting down sipping top shelf whiskey you. You chose wisely aright. It is a huge operation with facility spread out over two thousand acres. We serve the entire world from this county and only discount, despite it's size and the enormous amount of whiskey. It sells every year. Jack Daniels is proud of being made according to old fashioned traditions and slowly aged for years before it's considered good enough to drink that spirit yet it draws hundreds of thousands of Jack Daniels fans to visit each year. We Love Jack Daniels so we wanted to see where it was made. On our buckle to come down here anyway, so yeah, definitely, find your bucket list. Yeah, just something that I have to do before I die read. Traveled to Nashville for a quick vacation. So this is ls a fully flat this afternoon. On this tour our guide Jed has about twenty people including one Pesky podcast host from places like Illinois Iowa. Massachusetts Montreal and Ireland it kicks off in front of a seven story building near the top of the hill. You're looking at a million gallons of Jack inside that one building. Yeah you've arrived. And eventually winds its way is. We're going to go walk around the corner. Want to show you jack off his property to the opening of Limestone Cave that with fresh spring water. It's where Jack Daniels set up his still and started making whisky on the property, Visser Jack was born about five miles south in here. He was born the youngest in eighteen, fifty six when Jack was. was still a child. He became a farmhand for neighbor. Dan Call Call also owned a still along with being a Lutheran preacher, and it was on that farm that Jack learned how to make whisky as an adult. He bought the property where the distillery is today. His One story office is still standing in it a highlight of the tour. That is the actual safe that killed Jack. One morning, Jack kicked it in frustration, broke his toe, and it later had to be amputated that led to severe complications and eventually his death. y'All WanNa Touch Yucca Duchy guys just don't. Sorry to kill. Over the course of an hour and a half jed tells us a lot about Jack's life. How he was only five foot two, how he never married, and passed the business on to his nephew, and he also mentions the man who had a big impact on the direction of Jack's life now, the man who taught Jack to make whisky was Mr Nate the nearest green, Nathan Green or as is usually called nearest sometimes uncle nearest Mr Green during the time of the civil war before emancipate. He was infected enslavement over on the call property. Unlike Jack Though less is known about nine green. There aren't vivid stories about his life or the random objects. He kicked just the bear details. Here's Nelson Eddy. The distilleries historian, the earliest book on Jack, Daniels that we have was written in the nineteen sixties, and it tells the story of Jack and nearest not only them working together, but a friendship that they had that Book Jack Daniels Legacy was written by journalist who went to Lynchburg to do research an interview members of both families. It recounts a story when. I still in slave man was directed to teach a young Jack how to make whiskey and for a long time. This was about the extent of what people knew about nearest you know the Bible for the Jack Daniels tour was always the legacy book in the Legacy Book. It clearly tells the nearest Greens Jack Dino story a few years ago, however, the company relies nearest was not brought up regularly on tours, and he had largely vanished to the world outside of Lynchburg so Jack. Daniels saw an opportunity in twenty-six Teen During One Hundred Fiftieth Anniversary. It was a story. We said. Hey We might like to highlight this. Because, not only did near a show Jack how to make whisky. How charcoal filter out impurities working side by side with enslaved man appears to have had a profound influence on him even after he became a successful businessman, it's something Nelson points to in a photo of an older Jack surrounded by the men who worked at the distillery. This was taken at the nineteen hundreds in the American south. And at that time, it would not have been the custom to seat immediately to the owners, right. An African American individual. Typically, they would be standing at the back. But not in this photograph. And When that photograph was uncovered, we wondered at the time. Who The gentlemen might be well The Green family has informed us that that is a George Green nearest green son. To of nearest green sons came to work with Jack when he moved his whiskey still to its current location later, nearest grandsons would work at the distillery today. Three of his descendants still work at Jack Daniels in fact since its founding in eighteen, sixty six, there has always been a member of the Green family working at the Jack Daniel's distillery. This history, largely unknown to the world, outside of Lynchburg struck a chord with reporter from the New York Times, and when his story was published in June, twenty sixteen. It featured this image of Green Next Jack Daniel. As there is no confirmed image of nearest green. One woman who read that article was gone weaver, and that photo Qatar I for the same reason. It fascinated Nelson the historian at Jack Daniels. The person in the center is an African. American man and it is as if Jack seeded the center of the photo to this African American man, and then stood just to the left of him and the question be gay. Who was that African American man? With that question and many more fun new which he had to do I became fascinated. Some people say I became obsessed. Whatever you WANNA call it. I became something and I decided to go to Lynchburg Tennessee. Though she had no connection to Mir and his family, she was determined no more about him. She was willing to move to Lynchburg in up in her entire life. To make sure the world would never again forget nearest green. Her story and his after the break. We're back in two thousand sixteen. Fon Weaver was an author and investor who lived in Los Angeles drink of choice Bourbon at Eh Taylor to be exact and barrow proof neat. That was about the extent of her connection to the industry. Then she read the story about nearest green, and saw the picture of his son and right there. She decided she had to go visit this small southern town where she. She knew no one and really didn't know what she'd find. She wasn't too concerned, but her husband was. I, mean you know we're African? American the city's called Lynchburg, so he had some pretty major reservations about my fascination with this story, and going to Lynchburg after being there for two days and meeting the people and seeing how not only wonderful they were how they were so open to helping. Helping, US, piece together this story and completely changed how he viewed when Fon got to town, she headed straight to Jack Daniels and went on several tours, but she said she didn't hear about near a screen like his name was not even mentioned which she found strange, the company said in that news article had planned to recognize him. It turns out however Jack. Daniels chose to wait on making any modifications. Modifications to the tours in the middle of Twenty Sixteen presidential election that article in the New York Times had proved to be a bit of a lightning Rod. Reactions ran from positive to negative. Some people wondered if the company had hidden history of nearest while others questioned its accuracy representative for Jack Daniels later said it worried about being criticized for trying to gain financially from featuring the story of nearest. In the end what Faan saw was that nearest was still missing, so she got to work very quickly. She pulled together documents and establish trust among the residents of Lynchburg who turned out, already knew part of the story like Nelson, Eddy, the, historian Jack Daniels Story of nearest green is something here in Lynchburg? They've long known Mayor Bonnie Lewis Definitely knew anybody that has. Study Dini his of Jack. Daniel knows the nearest greene story, and perhaps not surprisingly so did the great great granddaughter of nearest. Green Victoria Butler everyone. Lynch Park has always now. It was never secret the relationship between the Greens and the Daniels sliver secret in Lynchburg. Was that a revelation to you that wait, everybody here knows the story already. Oh, it was a complete revelation, so I'm in Lynchburg there to do some research and I'm getting a pedicure of all places and. Talks into the Nelson Right and I'm getting better here and I. Just asked the woman I tell her. There for and I said when that story came out in the New York Times I mean how did people here react? And she looks at Menges like well. We all knew the story already, so it was like totally not a big deal to us, and so I think that they didn't even recognize how significant this story is to America when the residents of Lynchburg met Fawn. Fawn and understood her interest in the story of nearest and how she wanted to tell it, they wanted to get involved and began actively seeking her out to share documents artifacts photographs with her. In fact, it started her first day doing research at the local library I wasn't even there for two hours before Jack's eldest descendent comes into the library and before she leaves i. I have telephone numbers and information on your screen sentence because they grew up together, they ate around the dinner table together. They were friends, so we begin there. And then she said you know where he grew up and where the distillery was where he learned how to make whisky. You realize that's for sale well. No, I didn't even I. wouldn't even thought the farm, was you? You know that they're still out there and an hour later causing calls me, and says I'm a Realtor I. Hear You WanNa. Go see the Dan Call Farm. You ran into my cousin at the library. I can take you up there, and and that is just the way these pieces began to fall together fond, and her husband bought that farm and have since restored it. Also assembled a team of more than twenty archivists, archaeologists, genealogists and historians who put in time and work to search for information about green and his family. They did research at the National Archives and the Library of Congress. They examined irs, Documents and census reports. Vaughn also interviewed the family near Green and along the way brief them on her findings in total estimates, they've collected more than ten thousand documents and. And other items about nearest and his family as well as Jack Daniel Lynchburg and distilleries in Tennessee the irony of it. All and I think this is a part of how I know that the story was just meant to be told no one ever build me to this day. No one has ever build me on the work that they did to help. This story uncovered with that information. FAWN has been. been able to piece together more details about nearest Greens life including where she believes he was born in the eighteen seventy census. There's one page where every single person put t in Tennessee for their answer to the question, were you born except nearest green next to his name? It's marked MD for Maryland Font also thinks she's narrow down the year he was born eighteen twenty. However, you have to remember African. African Americans were property, not people until the end of eighteen sixty five, so you have these census takers in eighteen seventy that showing up at the doors, and now all of a sudden they're counting African Americans. Not As property, but as people and they're looking at them and saying what's your name and they're telling them their name. How do you spell it I? Don't know I. Don't read them right. Well, how old are you I? Don't know I don't have a birth certificate and so there are literally looking the census when it comes to African. Americans is so inaccurate because there literally looking at you and trying to tell how old you are I. Don't know if you've ever heard the saying that black. Don't crack, but when I look at it and I see an eight thousand eighty. They said he's sixty I'm thinking he's closer. So. I don't know we don't know his age. We WanNA. Think we know his age, but we don't. It's one of several examples that demonstrates how hard it can be to learn about people who had been enslaved. There's often little documentation, but when nearest became a freeman, there were more records, and that's where fond made perhaps her biggest discovery one that even Jack Daniels did not know nearest was more than a teacher. He was Jack's I. Master Distiller, and that makes nearest green, the first African American one on record in the United States, being the first African American master. Master Distiller. I don't think that we should or can take that lightly. Because there are only so many things that we can give African American credit for during a period of time where we couldn't trademark, we couldn't patent. We could not have our own inventions so defined out that there was someone who left. This legacy of excellence behind is not small in the least bit font shared her findings with the leadership of Jack Daniels and pretty quickly installed a large display at the visitor center about nearest and his family, and it started talking about more frequently during tours. Most important in two thousand seventeen, the company officially acknowledged that nearest green was the first master distiller at Jack Daniels. Thanks to tax records, fond knows nearest kept making whisky until eighteen eighty four, but after that there's a sixteen year gap that she still trying to piece together. What is a burning question that you have about nearest green that you are still trying to answer whereas he barend? got. So. We believe that we know where he is and his entire family around the tombstone that we believe is his, but the original cemetery records were lost, and we're still digging to figure out. Is that him if she can confirm where he's buried? She hopes that will give her another thread to follow about nearest. Those small details that can lead to big discoveries, and it makes for a better story to if you know how it ends. It's important here to put the work that fond inner team, or doing in a broader context, because as much as it is about one person nearest green, it's about something bigger giving credit to the contributions by people who've been left out of history, whatever the reason we have a history, and which, even though it's filled with words, it's not necessarily filled with truth for example, the method of making whisky that nearest taught Jack a filtering it through charcoal. It's now believed came from West. Africa were. Were charcoal is still used today to purify food and water in other words, the very process that defines Daniels Whiskey and Tennessee Whiskey, broadly, speaking, most likely originated with the people forcibly brought to this country as slaves. Tennessee whiskey is your first American, like truly all American spirit, because you are taking what West Africans brought with them, and you're putting it with whites that are here and you're creating a product that is uniquely indigenous to books and I. Don't know of any other that has. has done that. This is particularly alive moment in terms of looking at African American. History Jessica Harris is a professor and author and a food historian WHO's been studying the food of Africa, and what happened to it after it left that continent and arrived in places like the US people are being reclaimed in many ways, people are being discovered in many ways. It's a real kind of unearthing and a repositioning of things I think that's a good thing you can that legacy here in foods like? Like Okra and watermelon and possibly even seed rice. They're also genetic traces of Africa in Texas longhorn cattle. There's also cooking techniques and the people themselves like Thomas. Jefferson chef and enslave. Man named James Hemmings. Yes, that hemmings, Sally's brother James Trained as chef in Paris when Jefferson was the ambassador to France, and he returned with Jefferson to the US and kept cooking for him. We all know Jefferson brought back ice cream, Jefferson back macaroni and cheese. What the question is was Jefferson cooking it. And that's where James hemmings comes in. Because of her extensive research and writing Harris's the lead curator of an exhibit in New York called African. American making the nation's table with the Museum of food and drink. It explores the history of African American contributions to agriculture, hospitality, entrepreneurship and beverages. Hello, near screen. It also presents a more complete picture of our nation's history, because as Harris puts it African. American food is American food and that started with slavery, basically african-americans. Grew, food. Harvested the food processed the food cook. The food served. The food cleared the table. And emptied the chamber pots. That's about is. Totally involved in the American food chain as you can be. As important as it is to uncover these histories and confront sometimes difficult truths. That does not always mean people will remember Fon. Weaver worried about that. She feared that simply documenting the facts about green might not be enough for people to know his story. We have so much history, but how does it get out there? What is the medium? So she decided to do with did not do open a whisky distillery. She called a ankle nearest. A new brand could write an historical wrong keeping his name on people's lips for generations to come. That story after the break. Welcome back! Thanks to fond inner team to understand the story of near screen you can go to the place where it's being told Shelbyville Tennessee, so I went. We've taken this. Hay Hay Barn. And we're making turf I bothering house. My Guide is Sherry more. The operations manager for uncle nearest premium whisky located about an hour southeast of Nashville. So what does this in here? This will be where we store barrels for single barrel. The distillery is being built on the site of Tennessee walking horse farm spread out over nearly three hundred acres of green pastures are several whitewash stables with green roofs, renovating these existing structures and building new ones will cost an estimated fifty million dollars and be completed in about two years already finished is temporary visitor center and the corporate offices. They are four stalls. So this win. Was Son still lot? So! I'm trying to get pictures of him to put on my wall since that was his home. And now it become office. Sherry has a long history with whiskey. She's the cousin of the oldest living relative of Jack Daniel. She spent thirty one years working at Jack. Daniels including directing whiskey operations when she retired, she became a real estate agent. In fact, Sheri's the one who sold that farm to Fawn in her husband, the one where nearest target Jack how to make whisky. By the way a picture of that farmhouses on the uncle nearest label typically when you're in real estate in your showing property to somebody from California, they do not buy the farm. They get back to California and decide. That was a bad idea, but they actually bought the farm and great piece of history, and they purchase it, so I met them on their second day when Fon arrived in Tennessee. She was not thinking about selling whiskey. Let alone building a multi-million dollar distillery. She was thinking more along the lines of writing a book about near a screen, and still on her to do list, but a couple of things happened that. That changed her mind as she got to know. The people in the community like Sherry and members of the Green family, she kept hearing the same thing about making a whiskey with nearest name on it from Sherry. It was if I ever decided to honor nearest with a bottle. She would come out of retirement to make sure I got it right. And then learning, come out of retirement mint, which is, she's the best in the business. Okay, so that was in the back of fawns mind, and then, when she spoke to some of nearest descendants and I said what is that one thing you think should happen in order to honor? Nearest to honor your ancestor, and they said we think his name should be on a bottle. Then one day she went to see the movie hidden figures with a few of those family members I cannot do my work effectively if I do not have all of the data and all of the information as soon as available I need to be in that room. Hearing what you? If, you don't know the movie. It's based on the true story. Three African American, women who played key roles in the space program Fawn in the family loved the movie, and they saw parallels to the story of nearest green and his relationship with Jack. Daniel, but about three weeks later, when Fawn was thinking about the movie, and what people had been saying to her, it all connected. I realized I could not tell you the name of one person. person who was a hidden figure? I can tell you Octavia Spencer I could tell you John L. Monet to Raji P.. Hinson I could tell you who played the characters, but I could not actually tell you who the people were whose legacy that entire movie was built to tell, and that's when we realized hundred years from now nobody's going to near says name unless it's on a bottle with that realization. She decided to go into the Whiskey business. I she found a source of Tennessee whiskey. She thought good enough to bear the name uncle nearest then in July twenty seventeen, she launched the brand since then raised the money to finish building the new distillery, and has already started making whisky that will be sold once it finishes aging. It's almost as if the entire universe conspire to make sure this story was told, and for whatever reason I was chosen to tell the story I felt very operation, saying it that way, but that it's the only explanation that that I can give. It's also happening very fast already. She's selling three different whiskies. Let's facing. Eight eighty four is on your left, which includes leading tastings, the country and each time telling the story of uncle nearest gave for. That year is the last year that we actually have records near scrape already. The whiskies are sold in all fifty states, and in a dozen countries outside of the US and in the few years since uncle nearest was introduced, the whiskies have won multiple awards. We start off. Afterwards world's Best Tennessee whiskey most recently at the world whiskies award in New York and that goes to. Uncle nearest. On is also brought the green family into the whiskey business. In fact, the master blender that's the person who decides what the final whiskey will taste like Victoria Butler one of nearest descendants. Which one did you blend that eight, hundred eighty four? And why is it eighteen eighty four? That is the year that we believe near screen last with skin a barrel. Cheers. Cheers It's delicious. It's got a lot of sweetness to it. For sure the now. It's a little. It's a little bit Nettie. Little like butterscotch. It's better scotch that comes from the Oak. Victoria has been almost thirty one years working for the federal government before she retired. Thanks to find, she has a second unexpected career. Though perhaps it's not too surprising. Considering who her great great grandfather was whiskey villa is in my blood. and. Had it not been for this brand? Being launched a may have never tapped into that so I'm thrilled to be doing what I'm doing now to have. The honor of being the first African American female to be master blender of a major spirit is huge and so i. don't take that lightly, and so I'm loving and. Master blender Victoria Butler. Her office at the distillery is down the hall from Sherry more, the operations manager and across the hall is fawns. Who I might add is the first. African American woman to own and run a major spirit brand. Our brand is the first major spirit brand ever to be led by all women I think. When we calculated them, there were like ten I. There are things like me being the first, African American on the cover of major whisky magazine like these types of I. You would've thought happened before, but no apparently these are the years to to break all the records. Making history in twenty twenty, just like in eighteen, sixty six, when nearest green became Jack Daniels I master distiller, the First Avenue American board, and for that matter, the last one for a major brand to. Remember that photo of Jack Next, George Green one of the sons of nearest the photo that sent fond down the unexpected road of creating a whiskey to honor him. The photos on the wall of these photos are all our master distiller. On the wall at the Jack Daniel's distillery. This is where Mr Nathan. Nearest grease picture belongs to memorialize one near accomplished and honor the friendship between him and Jack when the continues to this day among the families, visitors can now learn how after emancipation nearest kept working for Jack how Jack hate him a fair wage based on his skill, and how things Vaughn's research? We know that nearest when from slavery to becoming the wealthiest African American in Lynchburg potentially wealthier than some of his white neighbors. It's a story that visitors Jack. Daniels excited to hear like Stacey. Levine Ivan Stefan Oh. Do you think it's important to tell his part of the story when telling the Jack Daniel's story as well? I think. This story is probably just as important, if not more important because he's the the one who who made it happen. Here's the capitalist, and so the fact that he is a former slave, just adds to the the greatness of the story I think it's a story whose time has really come again. Nelson Eddy. The historian at Jack Daniels out of this really divided time comes the story people working together in this small town in the south. That's really a remarkable story. It's one I think we can be proud of. And Jack, Daniels we'd like to think that whiskey brings people together. But actually it's people like Jack in years. That could bring brings together. In the four years since fallen I read about nearest green. Her impact has been far reaching for Jack Daniels. Yes, but even more for nearest green and his family that includes establishing a foundation which provides scholarships for his descendants to go to college already, there are twelve recipients they're also plans to build a memorial park named after him near the Jack Daniel's distillery. What is done for my family is? Let the world know. Who near screen is so. Fine Waiver in my book has a Rockstar. Sometimes it takes a person from the outside to rediscover truths and uncover new ones that were always there, but just needed more attention and today thanks to the creation of uncle, nearest whiskey near story is one more people will like the here, because in the world of whiskey and Bourbon the good story, and is important as the actual. Drink itself especially when it's an important one. One. It's odd to say it this way, but it's it whiskey with a mission behind it, and I think that it will continue to be that long long long after I'm gone every time, someone orders Jack. Daniel's Tennessee whiskey. They're helping to keep his memory alive. That's been the case for more than one hundred fifty years. Font is creating the same legacy for nearest green. Everyone, I wanNa let you know this is the last episode of our. Let's call it winter season. Thank you so much for listening. 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Uncle Nearest: The Whiskey Making History

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Uncle Nearest: The Whiskey Making History

"It's Wednesday August fifth. Market foolery I'm Chris Hill thanks for listening. Let me start with a quick programming note it is a short week here at market foolery as I said on Monday I'm actually away this week. So this is going to be the last episode for this week, and if you're thinking, Hey, what, what am I supposed to do on? Thursday. What about? Industry Focus. What about rule breaker investing with David Garner? What about Motley? Fool answers closing in on its three hundred episode of all time. By all means if you haven't already check out some of the other podcasts for the Motley fool. With that out of the way, let me talk about today's episode and I'll start here. You don't have to be a whiskey drinker to know the name Jack Daniels. You don't even need to be someone who drinks alcohol of any kind. To know the name Jack. Daniels. It's an iconic American brand. And the history of that brand has been in my mind enriched because of the relatively recent discovery of a man known as uncle nearest. The story is much better told by fawn weaver she is an investor and entrepreneur. She's written a couple of bestselling books about having a happy marriage and when she saw a news story about uncle nearest, it's set her on a pass to her current job. As CEO the fastest growing. Whiskey. Company. In America. I got the chance to talk with her a couple of weeks ago. So here's that conversation starting with fawn talking about where she was when she saw a story in the New, York Times about uncle nearest. Singapore and it was on the cover of the New York Times International Edition journalists clear is in had written a piece that he describes a wonderfully as a lob meaning. There was only so much information. He was able able to gather to one trip to Lynchburg and then spending time trying to do this work from New York and it became very clear. To him that the story needed to be told, but he wasn't going to have the time resources to really dive into the story and I have to tell you. He was right because I had the higher. It gets eighteen nineteen archaeologist junior historians, conservators, and and literally pull documents from six different states, thousands and thousands of documents to really be able to. Not just piece the story together, but to be able to prove the story, but I will tell you what brought me to Lynchburg with not this story about whisky. It was not this story about Jack Daniel as a grown man in Lynchburg they called him Jack and the most respected men that would have walked down the street during that time were named. Uncle Jack an uncle nearest. So Nathan Green. We know that as his legal name. But what we also know is he wasn't enslavement and formerly enslaved people. A lot of times following slavery chose to go by a different name and that had to do with the fact that a lot of them were named after their slave owners or their slave owners children. The the largest slave owner in this area was named. Nathan. And Yes. And so you you kind of look at it and say, all right. There is a really good chance that he did not want. The same name is Nathan Bedford Forrest. Who was trading over thirty thousand slaves year here, and so there is a really good chance. But what we know is when the nearest uncle Jack walked through town, it was nothing but respect and as I began diving through this story, I, write books as you mentioned about love I don't intend on changing that people keep asking me to write books on business and like at about forty five I can refer you to I love them all but what I can't refer you to books on love written by powerful minute. By myself. and. But what really drew me to this story? Where two things the first is, if you look at that original New York Times article, there is a photo that was prominent in be article itself. It was a picture of Jack Daniel with his crew. It's the only known picture that Jack Ever took with his crew. But if you look closely at the photo, people notice that there's an African American to his right which in and of itself taken an early nineteen hundreds about nineteen hundred four that already would have been extraordinary. But if you really zoom in on that photo and you look, you'll notice that Jack Daniels, the most famous American whiskey maker of all time. Has Ceded the center position to the Black Man? That is astounding. Jack is off center near screen. Son is WHO's at the center of this picture with his crew, and so I knew that this story had to have been about more than just an African American taught Jack Daniel you don't see senator position to someone son if all they were to you as a teacher in. So that was the first thing that drew me in the. Second thing that drew me in is I've been bought Jack Daniels biography nineteen, sixty seven written at the height of the civil rights era. So if you know anything about what was going on here in sixty, five, sixty six when it was being written and sixty seven when it was published, it was not a pretty time and in civil rights history especially in the south. And so you have this biography written by a white reporter Tuscaloosa Alabama that comes to town called Lynchburg genesee to write the authoritative biography on the most famous white whiskey maker. And includes nearest green and his boys, fifty times and a biography this thick. Every single person who? The biographer was speaking to were Jack's nephew who took over the distillery and then his nephew in his children jacks, great nephews, the four of them that took over after their father and so you're talking to the people who knew Jack, the best who knew him the most and they included nearest in his boys more times than Jackson family. So what that said to me was this story was not just about whisky or whisky maker. This story was in part about an African American elder and a white orphan who not only he taught but who developed this? Incredible relationship and mentor ship. But then following the civil war Jad Daniel decided to take the distiller he had been working at alongside nearest green to buy that distillery to rename it Jack Daniel distillery and he asks her nearest to be his first master distiller and so the story I was chasing when I came to Lynchburg was the story of love and it's the story I found when I got here. So at what point in this process because I know. You win into this and pretty quickly in the process you're thinking I'm writing another book about love. It's just different from what I've written before at what point in that process do you decide? To put the book idea aside for the moment and say actually I think I wanNA start a distillery. Didn't put the book idea side I was very much. So writing it but the home on our bottle anymore when he looks at an Oakland responded, there's a home on there that is the home where Jack Daniel grew up. That home sits on the three hundred thirteen Acre property that we own where the original distillery number seven in district number four sat and near. Green, is the only known master distiller for distillery number seven in. So you have this property that I've been in town for less than an hour at the library doing research before Jack Daniel's eldest descendant walks through the door and offers her help because it very quickly on. Word. Got Around The New York Times bestselling. Black woman. From Los Angeles wasn't down and doing in writing on this story of this enslaved man teaching Jonah you have to remember you go back to two thousand sixteen. If you look at any of the articles that were written after clay's piece Claes piece was not negative in the lease Claes p simply said until now we have known a white preacher Distiller as Jack's teacher however. It's more likely that it was actually this African American. This enslaved man who worked on the property of this preacher alongside Jack Daniels who also was working as a chore boy and so if you think about it if I show up in town, why would you think a black woman from Los Angeles was looking for a story of love I mean, it just doesn't even seem plausible but that is why I was there and so the eldest descendent get call to the library. Once a librarian calls and says, Hey, there's somebody who are doing research on your. And she comes down and I could see in her eyes I could see her face in for very good reason concert. And I looked her in the eyes and I said I am not here to harm your family's legacy I. believe that the press and social media have this story wrong and I believe that in I listed all the reasons I believe that most of it coming from Jackson biography is a if he wanted to hide a person or steal a recipe or This is the worst place to document all that. And and so I told his his eldest descendant I said listen if I do the research and I discovered Jack is not who I believe. He is an by discover that this was not a story of love honor and respect of as I believe that it is. Someone will come down here and pull the same exact research as me nothing that happens in the dark ever stays in the dark always comes to like I said however. You have my word it will not be written by me. That is not why I'm here and so she said to me in that case, I want to help you and she pulls out her cell phone and she gives me the names and numbers of near creeds to send X.. They grew up together they eight around the dinner table together. They were still friends and the last thing she said after giving me names and numbers and offering to help before she leaves at a library. She said, Hey, you know that harm that you read about ejects biography you realize it's for sale. Of course I, did not why would I think property one, hundred, fifty years with a house still standing? No, absolutely not I didn't know it was for sale and so the long the the long answer to your short question is the person who she'd been connected me with to take me to the home was her cousin sharing more sharing more had been in the family business, her entire life and when she retired from the Family Business Jack Daniel distillery after thirty one years she was head of whiskey operation. And as we began diving more and more into this research, I was sharing with them information I found out about their family which matched the story that I believed. I was going to find here in Lynchburg. Then one day she says to me you know if you ever decide to honor nearest with the bottle I will come out of retirement to make sure you get it right And not long after that I was meeting with about forty or fifty of near assist ascendance and I said, what is the one thing you think should happen in order to honor your ancestor and they said, we think that his name should be on a bottle. He deserves to have his own bottle and I literally called Sherry after that meeting and said, listen if you will come out of retirement I will raise the money and that's how I got started. It's amazing. Impart because of the reaction from. The people that if you're just looking at it. If you're looking at this in terms of sides you can look at there's the Jack Daniels side there are the people on that side. And the reaction. Is Amazing for a couple of reasons but one of them is it reminds me of in the early nineteen nineties when the small batch Bourbon. Craze for lack of a better term started to get going you booker no, the grandson of Jim Beam. Jim Beam really starting with their small batch bourbons. There was this sense that all of the distilleries in Kentucky while they compete with one another they were all also all working together. There was a collegiality about this endeavor because they saw it as a way to grow the segment, and that was one of the things I was thinking when I was reading about the reaction of from the the Jack, some of the folks on the Jack Daniels side of this equation. because. They saw it as a way to. Sort of. Embrace. The history you know because let's face it. There's there's a version of this story where that's not the reaction. There's a version of this story where the librarian calls and. Someone comes into the library to cause trouble of some sort or absolutely, and and the thing that I love about this story. The most is beside the fact that it's absolutely true is the only reason we know who nearest grain is people give me so much credit and I always try to shift that credit because yes, I did the digging, but you have to understand that the only reason we know near Green was is because Jack took the time to honor him while Jack was alive and then Jackson nephew limb to time to continue honoring nearest and his children when he was alive in every generation. So that's the only reason that we know it isn't that I was able to just dig dig dig and find near screen was the first master distiller and show a document that no one had seen. They had gone record enough times that it was very clear. They want it to make sure people knew who was Jackson's master distiller who taught him was his mentor that's extraordinary because if you go up to the folks in Kentucky God bless him I love all of them I work side by side with them but they all had African. Americans at distilleries in the beginning. Named one of. Them. So the only reason that we're able to honor nearest green as the first African American master the Stiller is because Jack. And I think that's remarkable. To. Talk a little bit about business that you have started and Start with where we are right now in this pandemic with covid nineteen. How are your employees holding up and what has it done to the production side of Your Business? Are Laser holding up fantastic on the production side we ramped up. React we have been selling like crazy and so there is there is no time to slow that process down and so we lay down anywhere between four and seven thousand barrels a year that is not changing this year because of how crazy it is out there and our team you know we made a decision very early on and we began having weekly video calls with the entire company and those were really you could have just called them hope calls the entire conversation. We never talked about what challenges we're going on in the field. What challenges were in our industry we didn't care. The only thing that we talked about was our ability to not lose heart in our ability to overcome any challenge and that we had the team to do and the team believed it one hundred percent in. So even though we were from home shelter in place two months straight not one person left the house unless they were going to the grocery store I did not allow one person into the field during that period of time, and when we closed out each the Q. One and. Q Two when we close out you one because we on premise basically shut down in March of. This year. So on premise, the restaurant, the bars, and so when you have something like that happened you automatically fake my this is about to start tanking and when we close out hugh to one, it was our six quarter in a row of triple digit gains. I don't know many industries where you can just go over quarter triple digit games and so I remember. That earnings report going out to our investors in them going. Oh boy I guess that's GonNa stop for Q to like. We're not going to be able to see this again in q two was our seventh quarter in a row, a triple digit gains, and so I think the thing that we have to understand about American whiskey is it as a native spirit and it is what people are going to. Drink weather higher low good times or bad times, and if we embrace that which we have in understand that, yes, who's drinking may change over this period of time but they're still somebody who's GONNA WANNA drink. American. Risky been you're able to just keep giving. So I I can say that we have pivoted as an industry multiple times during this corona virus this industry is solid and it's doing incredibly well. It's amazing growth and I should point out. For those watching and listening. Uncle nears the fastest growing independent whisky brand in US history. All the more impressive to me because of the aging process in a good vodka takes a lot less time to make than good whiskey. which leads me to this. When you decide to go down the avenue of starting distillery honoring uncle nearest by putting him on a bottle. was there any pushback from people you went to talk to or? Was the story so great that you were beating off investors with a stick. Oh Yeah beating off investors stick Fisher still still still the to this day, and so folks will ask me how do I set my valuation because I get so many incoming investor requests in. So seed series, I set evaluation and said, this is where we are and series as series be safe and after. When I get incoming I'd say this is my next number when I hit that number election. No then I'll open up another round, and so we've done a little different than I. Think most the interesting thing about coming into this industry is one that people may or may not expect is the greatest challenge that I would stay in my team faced is I hire an executive team of all women Now they're the best of the best in their fields and I wasn't looking for women, it just so happens that the best of the best for this brand were all women and I remember my head on my ex VP of global sales and my head of whiskey operations sharing more in Cage Jerkins when we were beginning this, we all had a conversation one day and realized we were having the exact same problem and that problem was we couldn't get calls back. So we knew that we needed to be able to source a whiskey in Tennessee that was aged that was still being made the way that mere made it. There were only so many that were doing that we were going to need to buy bottles and corks and and have a co packer and all the rest of the stuff before we had our own distillery, we knew we needed help we couldn't get any calls back. So I call my husband who's an executive vice president Sony Pictures. So all you have to do is Google and know he's busy I called him and said they so we have just. Discovered that we're getting no phone calls back and everyone recalling calling our men were thinking it may be a coincidence, but could you just test this theory out for me and so we all set him the names in the numbers of the people along with a brief synopsis of what we needed him to know before calling that person and in every single instance people that we have been waiting for calls back for weeks got back to them in five minutes or took the call and calls would by the end of it would go hey, using beer you wanna meet at a at a bar you golf. Course and so for I know a lot of women that's bothersome for me. I looked at it as less work because. If I could turn over some of these calls him and you could make a very quick phone call and get it done that allows me to focus on other things and so for the first year and a half, maybe two years. If you look at any interview that I ever did, you will never see me references the CEO of uncle nearest I'm the chief historian. I'm never people thought he was the CEO for the first year guys. All you have to do is google to no, he wasn't. I mean, could get on link to do a little bit of homework. But in work it worked and he calls me one day and he says Bape we're REMINGTON still. Going to come back to the business side in just a second I would be remiss if I did not ask this question and I'm I'm not trying to intrude in your personal life, but because you have written a couple of bestselling books on having a happy marriage. What was the reaction from your husband? When as I read it in one article You had a birthday coming up. And he said, I think I wanNA take us to Paris because we like to travel around the world and you said I have an idea. Let's go to Lynchburg Tennessee instead. He was not happy about the fortieth birthday and I tease him that if something had happened to us here, then nobody would have known where to find us because he was so embarrassed that I had chosen for my fortieth birthday to go to a little town called Lynchburg Tennessee that he told everyone he was taking me bourbon tasting. So everyone would have been looking for us in Kentucky. But no I mean he's an African American man. He's six foot four. He is a you know a big guide. The last place he wants to go was a town look Lynch in the day I think it's fair and in so no, he was not interested in he ran through every city that he knew I loved around the world and finally after weeks of this, he says, okay, I got it I know you've been wanting to go to Prague you've not been to project everywhere else I bid and I said you're I I would love to. Do that for my fortieth birthday but let's go by way of Lynchburg. And by. My husband employs lobbyists for living. That's a part of his job, and he says, you know if I can just employees you as a lobbyist boy when I get a lot done because I lobbied to no end and so what I wanted for my fortieth birthday is what I got and that was to chase this story even if only four days, which was what he said was the limit we will go four days and then we're leaving but I have to tell you once we got here and he met the people here and they were amazing wonderful people in the way that things lined up. So quickly, he was absolutely certain very early on that. This was about more than whiskey and that for whatever reason I had been the one chosen to tell this story and so it was not difficult at all. After that point I mean we bought the farm on the second day we were here. So yeah. Wasn't hard. The business of Whiskey is very different from the time of Jack Daniels. There are corporations, they're public companies Diaz Brown. Forman. Which owns Jack Daniels Constellation brands. What is something? Every investor should know before they buy shares of spirits company. You know I think you really need to know the leadership and I. Don't think that's any different from any industry is I learned very early on by losing several million dollars to not invest in a brand or a overall industry you invest in the person who is leading that Brandon. So you have to really look at who is leading Biaggio who was leading. Brown former loss in widening over there, and then you have to look at their track record of leadership and that will tell you all you need to know because in a moment like this with corona virus, we've seen a lot of people make some pretty big mistakes, and if you look into our industry, I think we have been really really steady overall. You've not seen too many make major decisions now for craft distilleries which we technically fall within. I'd say a lot of them made mistakes. The moment things started going bad. They began laying off and furloughing very quickly will then that makes it very difficult to get your people fired up and ready to go to the moment shelter in place in, and so those leaders who decided to stick with their employees and say listen we are not going to make permanent decisions for temporary problem. Those are the ones that I would back. What to the extent that you have a crystal ball? What does the next year or two? For uncle nearest distillery. Assuming an eighth consecutive quarter of triple digit growth is. Ninety days away but. where, where do you want to take this distillery? People who get into the beverage business whether it is alcohol whether it's beer wine. Certainly not alcoholic beverages and their goal is their end goal is to sell to someone enormous Coke Pepsi or a Constellation Brands Diaz show that sort of thing. What are the next couple of years look like for Ankle? Nearest Yet my goal was to not to sell to any of the big guys. It is the exact opposite of that. In part of the reason is is number one. There has never been an African American to lead a major spirit brand period I would be foolish to come in and make history and to be the first and then turn it over to one of the big guys. Because in case you hadn't noticed all the big guys are are white male in. So then we no longer have. Someone in that in that place. But for openers, you mentioned it earlier the fastest growing independent American whiskey brand. In the US history I'm not content with being the fastest going American whiskey brand. I want to be the fastest growing American premium spirit of all time and the only one who has beat at this point in their lifespan is cost Amigos that's who we're going after not because they're not fantastic but because they're Tequila in American, whiskey is the native spirit and that is who should have the record in America, and that's what we're gonNA. Do. Last question before I, let you go and I appreciate your time because I can only guess at how busy you are particularly during this time. I have been to the nearest website I have a bottle of the eighteen fifty six on its way to my home. How would you recommend I enjoyed Oh Gosh. It depends use you already said that you love whisky. Right. Okay well, uncle near is be most awarded American whiskey of Twenty nineteen. So far of twenty twenty, I say enjoy it neat because the world has given it every double gold there is the world's best best in whiskey if you go across the spectrum and just look for what we ranked Best Best Best, best ninety talk awards in in to use so I'd say drink at neat. It's how I drink. Since I had that conversation with fun weaver the bottle did arrive and I cannot recommend it highly enough. If. You're not a whiskey drinker. This is one of those whiskies that makes a great gift for someone in your life who is a whiskey drinker. In part because. There's an amazing story that's part of it. If you want to learn more, just go to uncle nearest dot com. As always people on the program may have interest in the stock and talk about the Motley. Fool may have formal recommendations for our. BUYER SELL STOCKS BE SELLING HERE That's GONNA. Do It for this edition of Market for Louis? The. Show is mixed by Dan Buoyed. I'm Chris Hill thanks for listening. We'll be back on Monday.

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GOP Strategist Heye Warns Dems Lurching Too Far Left

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GOP Strategist Heye Warns Dems Lurching Too Far Left

"This portion of pianolas brought to you by pimco active fixed income solutions that aim to give investors and which all investments, contain risk and may lose value. Investing in the bond market is subject to risks consult your investment professional prior to making an investment decision. Welcome to the Bloomberg PNL podcast. I'm Paul Sweeney along with my co-host these Abramowicz. Each day, we bring you the most noteworthy and useful interviews for you and your money, whether at the grocery store or the trading floor. Find a Bloomberg penal podcast on apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts, as well as Bloomberg dot com. We are broadcasting from the Commonwealth financial network summit for women advisors here in Nashville Tennessee last night. Many people were watching the next ten presidential democratic candidates debate each other in Florida. There was a very different tone, in this debate, a lot of policies discuss take a listen to some snippets from the event. Got a a Medicare for all single playoff system. We have to make sure we understand that the return dignity middle class, they have to have insurance that is covered and they can afford it. Everybody who says Medicare for all every person in politics, who allows that phrase to escape their lips has a responsibility to explain how you're actually supposed to get from here to there. Yes, they will pay more taxes, but less in healthcare for what they get careless that question when the Republicans and Donald Trump passed a tax Bill that benefits the top one. Donald Trump was put us in a horrible situation. We do have enormous income inequality. And the one thing I agree on as we can make massive cuts in the one point six trillion dollars in tax loopholes out there. And I would be going about eliminating Donald Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy. We've been listening to the voices of former vice president, Joe Biden senators, Bernie Sanders, and Kamala Harris among others, in that debate joining us now to impact, what we heard is Doug high Republican strategist, and former RNC communications director Doug, so glad that you could join us. My main question is, who are the Republicans who is Donald Trump, most scared of coming out of these two nights of the democratic candidate debates. Well, there's a there's a question inside, the Trump campaign of what they fear the most somebody like Joe Biden, who has the experience and also can win these states that Trump. Like. Or is it a change agent, somebody who represents something completely different? I think last night, we saw the Kamla Harris has the ability to stand toe to toe with just about anybody that should certainly send some some worry in into the Trump camp. But also one thing I think, well, it was a big big night for comma Harris was a very good night for people that edge one thing I did see that over last night. And the night before is Democrats were almost argument with each other over who could lurch further to the left, and that is a ground that Republicans wanna campaign on that is exactly the contrast with the Trump campaign would love to campaign on, regardless of that nominee. And that's something Democrats need to be careful. So that's exactly where I wanted to go to my question, I guess, is, I think at these primar-, these early debates, we'll probably see a lot of candidates, try to push to the left of push comes to shove, when we get to the general election. Do you expect Democrats to put up a centrist or? Or maybe something a little bit more left of that. Well, I think at this point we defined venturous. This is true to some extent with Republicans wealth. We define centrists, who sounds reasonable much less with the policies are so people edges, I would say his policies are uniformly in line with where Democrats are but he doesn't talk like it difficult politician. He sounds like somebody from Indiana and sounds like somebody who's more of a centrist. That's, that's a great attribute have, but the policies that every democrat last night, basically all of them and the night before lined up on, we're all almost exactly and accordance with each other and what we see healthcare being one. Good example, is Democrats, where it was a real asset to them in two thousand eighteen in the election have moved very far from where they were on election day, two thousand eighteen which wasn't that long ago. And if that continues it sets the democrat who, whoever that may be for contrast that the Trump campaign would love to have. I'm actually surprised to hear you saying that this was a competition to just move the furthest to the left because I actually was surprised that it was not more that way. And I was surprised that a number of candidates. Potential candidates came out and said, you know what we don't think that a single payer healthcare system where you can't have your own insurance will work, and that's not what it's looked like in places like Canada, or in Europe and trying to make an argument for a more sustainable type of program. So what exactly are you pointing to that was more left leaning than you thought and more of a consensus throughout well on, on healthcare, certainly there was some talk of whether or not people would be able to, to keep their insurance plan, obviously, if you like your plan, you can keep it with something Obama, ran on and then couldn't deliver on. There was some dissension there, but they have moved for the left. They're also immigration where every hand went up on decriminalising order. That is a fight that Donald Trump wants to have regardless of what's going on. At the border right now. And I would say, you know, Republican, it's a crisis and it's terrible conditions that we're seeing for kids, and what's happening with families is terrible politically, this is a fight that is very comfortable one. Donald Trump to have when every democrat raised their hand and said, we want to decriminalize crossing the border. That's the fight Donald Trump won. So Doug, it's interesting. Do you expect coming out of this huge field of democratic candidates? Bill Clinton type of candidate Barack Obama to, to come out of nowhere and really take the lead. Do you think there's possibility of that happening this year? We have so many to choose from. Well, I think what we'll see is a winning the threshold for the next eight will be higher. So we're fortunately not going to be a Marianne Williamson or an answer Yang. And the next debate most likely so we'll get more substance from by from Warren who had a good night, two nights ago problem for Elizabeth Warren was she was the first night, not the second night, and it's kind of been lost in conversation. Clearly Kamla Harrison's star that shouldn't have surprised anyone, and she'll do well in further debate, again, I wouldn't forget, Cory Booker, and people dead judge who, don't talk typically, like politicians, do when, when P talks a mid westerner in a mayor. Somebody who does things or in this case accepts responsibility for when he. Wasn't able to do something which politicians really don't do very often when Cory Booker talked about living in a community of color, a lot of politicians don't know that world. And certainly don't talk about it. That gives them an opportunity to communicate in a very different way. Doug since you are Republican strategist and a former RNC communications director. I'm wondering whether there has been less or more support among Republicans recently for President Trump heading into this twenty twenty election cycle based on the tariffs, and some of the trade talk, because tariffs, have traditionally been not in the playbook of Republican economics. Yeah. And I know from watching Bloomberg Harrison major part of the conversation, and I'm going to be an Iowa, if you weak. And I can't wait to hear on the ground. What the conversation on terrorist is when I'm in Iowa, clearly, it's having a negative impact that is a very important state for Donald Trump. I don't think a war wrote his base of, but certainly those who maybe were Obama voters in, in Iowa in the past, and then. Flip the Trump, that's a place where where you're going to look. And see how are those voters looking at this now where they liked the fact that Donald Trump is taking a fight through China, for instance where other presidents haven't what the effect that those are having are having real impact on their day to day life being from North Carolina. I know I could have that same conversation about sweet potatoes all day long. Thank you so much for being with us, really appreciate your insights. Doug high is a Republican strategist for RNC communications directo director and sweet potato aficionado heading to Iowa to get the pulse on the ground talking about the democratic debates. Joining us is Maria Considine king. Marie as a senior vice president practice management at Cavanaugh financial network rea-, thank you so much for joining us, just give us a sense of why this summit is important for the women advisors. Commonwealth. Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know, this month is a momentous month for Commonwealth or celebrating our fortieth anniversary, and ever since we've been founded, we have had this vision, Joe digest has a vision that this is a place where everyone can thrive, and that is what we have striven for, for all the all these years. And so, in order to strive, people need to be able to have a community that is supportive of them, that allows them to sort of explore who they are understand what is what is possible for them and help them to move forward. And for women advisors at Commonwealth who are about twenty percent of the field. It's been hard for them to just know who their peer group is when we go to our national conferences, and other events it's predominantly male. And so it's hard for them to just know who who those. Are so events like this allow them to literally said is on one another recognize you are my peer you my colleague. And so it takes levels the field right out of the gate, and then it also provides them with an opportunity to find their own voice to find their commonalities to share how they can help one another, what has been successful for them, not only for the women who are here, today, but also to establish a community in a dialogue that attracts women to come to our community in the future. And it's not just about women. Really, right? This is about diversity overall. So hopefully by providing a community and creating a community that lifts up women we are creating a community that lifts up. Everybody in is an attractive place for people to be you said about twenty percent of the field into the Commonwealth works with almost two thousand independent financial advisers, why is only twenty percent of that, total female? That's a great question. And it's, it's a needle that hasn't moved a whole lot over the years. And I think there are a few reasons for that, I think, you know, younger women coming up. I don't think they sort of see this industry. I don't think it's very visible to them, when they think about a career in finance other often thinking about a career in investment banking, or something on Wall Street that, that conveys a lifestyle that might not be conducive to them having a family of their own or a life of their own or just whatever they want their life to be. So I, I think we're not visible as an industry. So I think it's important for the women advisors who are here today to start making themselves more visible and start getting out in their in their communities to, to show them. What is possible within the wealth advisory field and that it's a great field and it's a great career for, for women to have into to explore. So I think we've got a visibility issue, cer- certainly and then I think, on the independent side, I think young women sometimes aren't all that encouraged to take risks. And so if you're going to be an independent advisor you going to be an entrepreneur, you're going to be a business owner. It's a lottery sponsor -bility. It's a great commitment. There's a lot of potential there. But I think some younger women may not feel fully supported and being able to take that step and take that leap. So. They tend to take more employees advisor roles rather than be that facing business owner and entrepreneur, so we have a lot of work to do as, as, as a community and certainly as a field to attract younger women into our industry, episode. So want to the woman comes to and wants to set up a practice are there are there specific or is this for some specific vice you give to a woman setting up a practice that maybe a little bit unique. I was intrigued to hear that question because I think business principles our business principles. I think they're the same, whether it's, it's a man or woman, it doesn't doesn't matter what I think, is different is, is the adoption in the implementation rate between men and women and this isn't Tirlian my perspective. So you might talk to a colleague who disagrees. But when I work with women advisors they tend to implement like when we have a consulting engagement with them. We come up with strategies and their tactics. They, they implement and they report back and they're telling me with this excess is are, and what their challenges are with men. They do that. But they may hold back of it. Amaz- sort of vetted against a number of other ideas, and look look for other information, and so there, there seems to be a faster adoption rate among women for basic business principles and establishing their practice and ineffective way. So when it comes to the business opportunity for women, I I've seen some statistics around the amount of wealth that women are actually cumulating and are in a position of power over money in a way that they really hadn't been historically out of abortion basis, especially as they live longer. And so I'm trying to figure out whether women tend to work with female at financial advisers more often than men. In other words, is this a sort of a select group that has a specific pitch right now at a time of growing financial prowess, among women, I think they certainly do have that have that advantage to leverage. And then they certainly can and they and many of them are I think that women who are new to wealth or. Have accumulated a lot of wealth. Many of them talk feeling more comfortable talking with a woman about their financial circumstance. And part of that is sort of the, the history of bit of gender bias that has happened between advisors and clients where advisers, don't always recognize the woman as a decision maker, and they tend to direct their information and questions to the man in the relationship. And so I do think women advisors have a great advantage in being able to attract women advisors and women. Oh, excuse me, women clients of wealth. And I, I believe in, in my impression is that, that is happening with greater and greater frequency. Yes. Thank you so much for being with us. And for having us here, Maria Considine king senior, vice president practice management at Commonwealth financial network. She is the one who organized this, that Commonwealth financial networks summit for women advisors. This first of its kind. And it is a really interesting area. This whole idea of, how do you end up diversifying feels that historically have been dominated by one group? How do you do that? What are the barriers something? It's a complicated question. That's facing the entire financial world right now financial services in general. Yeah. It's been an issue. Yes. In today's volatile markets investors need resilient portfolios to help handle the pressure through decades of expansions, and recessions and changing interest rates coins at turn to pimco to help them stay on course. No matter what course markets. Take pimco active fixed income solutions that aim to give investors an edge all investments, contain risk and may lose value. Investing in the phone market is subject to risks consult, your investment professional prior to making an investment decision. The big question of the day will president's vision paying of China and Donald Trump of the United States, come to some sort of truce, fire, at least at the g twenty meetings after escalating rhetoric around imposing tariffs. Joining us now from Hong Kong, Stephen Engle, TV correspondent for Bloomberg, and in New York, Mckee international economics and policy correspondent for Bloomberg news. Thank you so much, both of you for being with us Steve. I want to start with you, can you just sort of paint a scene. Give us a sense of the mood on the ground there at the g twenty meetings. I am here in no doubt. Oh, sock downing of a. And we didn't see, you know, covering it for the last couple of days. And we've all been just kind of previewing this meeting between she's been taking and Donald Trump, that is going to happen. I scheduled for twelve hours from right now. So it's eleven thirty at night here in Osaka. They're going to plan to meet at eleven thirty in the morning. And again, we got mixed signals from the president today. He said on the one hand is a good chance of doing something with China on trade tomorrow. Meaning Saturday eleven thirty in the morning, they're working lunch. But on the other hand, he also said he hasn't promised to hold off on new tests. So again, this so much speculation about whether a truce can be reached likely got seven months ago in Buenos Aires where they had a ninety day truce, and of course, it all fell apart in may. But, you know, he's has a busy day tomorrow, inbetween Xi Jinping or sandwich over. She didn't being is meeting with Mohammad bin Salman, the Saudi Arabia and then after she didn't think he has turkeys. President or the one. He's got a lot of play tomorrow. Michael Mckee, clearly, these international trade issues are having a significant impact over the last several months on the financial markets. What do you think the markets are an investors in general are expecting coming out of a soccer this weekend? They're expecting sort of said, boy, this iris situation where the two sides agree to continue talking at least get back to the bargaining table. Kick the can down the road. Some Donald Trump may say, we'll give you ninety days or whatever before we impose tariffs that would be the good enough scenario. The better scenario is some sort of agreement that they have moved closer. Nobody's expecting a full agreement out of this, the obviously terrible prospect, is that they don't reach any kind of agreement to continue talking. And the president comes out and says, I'm going to impose tariffs. He can't do it yet. They're not ready. They haven't finished bureaucratic paper. For work, but he could set a date sometime later in July to do that. So Steve were all focused on Xi Jinping and Donald Trump and their meeting, but other things are actually happening. G twenty means G twenty not g two and I'm wondering what we have seen in terms of other meetings between President Trump, for example in Russian President Vladimir Putin or German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Yeah. That's right. I mean, he didn't eat with Len reporting today was the first meeting since the mullahs report, and he was prompted by you know, a few reporters questions as two of them sat there before their bilateral. And in Trump asked Putin directly after reporter asked him is gonna ask him whether to meddling in the future election in twenty twenty and Donald Trump's turn to let Putin said don't meddle in the election. Please wag the singer and said, don't meddle in the election, and it was more of a joking light hearted response to what is obviously, a very serious issue in the United States. But apparently, according to the White House, they also in their bilateral discussion did talk about Iran Syria, Venezuela, and the Ukraine. Michael, we're, we're talking about tariffs here, and we've had a first round of tariffs. Just give us a sense of if we have the second round of tariffs here. How impactful could that be on the economy? It would be much worse for the economy than we have seen so far, that we were just talking with Mary Daly, the president of the San Francisco fed yesterday. And she noted that the tariffs that have been imposed of Hatem modest impact on growth and inflation. But if you start adding in all of the consumer goods, which is the parts of president has left out of the tariff so far on China, then you really start to affect consumer spending, because people may want to hold off, especially if they think that this will be settled why buy an expensive good today. If you think the price will go down tomorrow, and we're at the end of a long expansion, and people bought a lot of stuff. So they may say I can wait on that new ipad rather than pay ten or. Twenty five percent premium on it. And that would not be good for the economy. We've already seen business spending stop though the consumer is threatened. Exactly. So I will certainly keep an eye on this over the weekend. Bloomberg's Mike Mckee international economics policy cars, spun it, and Steve angled TV correspondents for Bloomberg in Sokha at the g twenty. Well, we are in Nashville Tennessee today. We are broadcasting live from the Commonwealth financial network summit for women advisors being in Nashville, guess what's an hour and a half away. Lynchburg Tennessee, the home of the Jack Daniel distillery. So, of course, we felt like we had to get somebody on the talk to us about Jack Daniels, and what's going on in the business. Of course, we got our good friend, Chris Fletcher, assistant master distiller of the Jack Daniel's distillery based in Lynchburg, Tennessee, Chris, thanks so much for joining us wonder if you could just tell us about how the market is for bourbon for the whiskeys that Jack Daniels famous for. Yeah. Thanks for having me on really excited to speak with you. And it's a great town to be making whisky in the United States. We're enjoying a whiskey boom. And I think it's probably with key in the US is hot right now is it's been leases probably post prohibition time. So, thank you so much for being with us, Chris. I do have to say that are fantastic producer on the technical front. Give me a look until I broke his heart, because I referred to it as bourbon what is Tennessee whiskey versus bourbon. Well, don't feel too bad because they're, they're very late. So we're talking the when you refer to these specific types of whiskey. You're still talking within the world of whiskey. Right. So bourbon is with ski and of course, Jack Daniels is a Tennessee whiskey, which, of course, is with. And so the, the rules for bourbon state that it has to be made in the United States, you can make it in all fifty states has to be made mostly from corn. At least fifty one percent corn. And it has to always be age in a new charred oak barrel. And so, at Jack Daniels to be Tennessee whiskey. We follow all of those guidelines, so we do qualifies bourbon but we have a couple of additional requirements, number one. It cannot be made outside of the state of Tennessee. So it's specific only to this state instead of all fifty and then it has to go through a process, we call charcoal mellowing, which is a filtration step that softens are whiskey right after distillation. So it look. Like, what you would think moonshine would like and it slowly seeps through this hard maple charcoal, and then we put into that new charred barrel to age, then tastic Chris, I'm guessing that you are not new to this business to the distillery business a little sense of your history with a company in your family sister with the company. Yeah. What? Yeah. Born and raised here in Lynchburg, Tennessee grew up, about three miles down the street from the distillery, and my mom's to add, my grandfather was a former master distiller here, he worked here from nineteen fifty seven until nineteen eighty nine. So I've been running around distilleries for a while since I was a kid really with my grandfather and started working here at Jack Daniels when I was in college. So I've got about eighteen years in the industry officially and then a lot of time with my grandfather before that as well. Here's a really strange thing. Lynch perks home county of bore is a dry. Dry county and yet it is also home to Jack Daniels world famous famous, Tennessee, whiskey. Can you square those two realities with with with us? Yeah, it is a bit unusual Lynchburg. I guess can be a bit quirky in some ways. And this is obviously at the top of the list. But we've been an dry county since prohibition here in Lynchburg. We are more county. It's the second smallest county in the state of Tennessee. Now prior to prohibition. It was not a dry county. We had saloons here in town and things like that. But Vince prohibition began for us, it was nineteen. Oh, nine more county has been dry. What simply mean? There are no liquor sales here. So there are no restaurants that can serve you a glass of whiskey or even a beer for that matter. So Chris give us a sense of how the whiskey businesses changed. Maybe over the, the arc of your grandfather, I know it's probably made the same or similar ways. But house the business change. Sure that's a great question. My grandfather, you know, starting in nineteen fifty seven Jack Daniels with really a small mostly regional brand. It was not nearly as well known as it is a day. But we, you know, we've had a lot of help with growing our brand. We make great with here in Lynchburg but you know, back in the fifties our brand was adopted by Frank Sinatra. And then, you know, as you move on into the sixties and seventies with, you know, countless rock and roll stars and, and Hollywood, you know, using Jack Daniels branding, as well and different things, and during that same time the rest of the American whiskey. Category struggled a bit as people turn more towards clear, spirits, and for, for whatever reason we were fortunate enough here, Jack Daniels to continue to grow and things have really over the last now, ten to fifteen years, I've come full circle, American whiskey as a whole is as popular as ever. And of course, we're enjoying this rise in popularity just like our other whiskey makers here in the US, Chris lecture. Thank you so much for being with us. Chris fletcher. Assis-. Didn't master distiller at the Jack Daniel distillery in Lynchburg. Tennessee, thanks for listening to the Bloomberg piano podcast. You can subscribe and listen to interviews at apple podcasts, or whatever podcast platform, you prefer on Paul Sweeney. I'm on Twitter at PT Sweeney and Lisa Abramowicz. I'm on Twitter at Lisa Abramowicz, one before the podcast, you can always catch us worldwide. I'm Bloomberg radio. 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August 19, 2020

Cyber Security Headlines

06:20 min | 3 months ago

August 19, 2020

"From the sea. So series it cyber-security headlines. It's Wednesday August nineteen twenty twenty. Oracle enters race to buy talks US operations. Oracle has become the latest contender to purchase TIKTOK following president. Trump's promised to shut it down unless it is taken over by a US company. By mid-november, Oracle is working with a group of us. Investors already own a stake in bite dance to take over its operation in the US Canada Australia and New Zealand. This puts Oracle in a race with Microsoft and twitter for the popular video APP although Microsoft retains a more widespread vision aiming to take over tick talks global operations. Jack Daniels hit with ransomware. The makers of Jack Daniels whiskey were hit with ransomware attack over the past weekend. Brown foreman which owns a manufacturers including Jack Daniels and Finlandia Vodka stated that none of its files were encrypted in the attack, but some data may have been stolen. The hacking team known as real access and screen shot at files. But Brown Forman's IT security team successfully detected them prior to a ransom situation. Brown Forman says it is not keen on negotiating, but reveal has threatened to auction the stolen data if a ransom is not paid. Two hundred thousand healthcare records exposed through get hub credentials leak. Nine data breach incidents multiple US healthcare providers involving the medical records of more than two hundred, thousand US patients were discovered recently by ethical hacker yell earn some working in association with data breaches dot net the data leaks the result of a developer leaving log in credentials exposed a get hubbard positively according to it took him less than ten minutes to find the medical data by using variations on search phrases like Medicaid Password FTP to locate hard coded log user names and passwords for systems like Microsoft Office three, sixty, five and google. G. Suite. Environments. Apple will not make any exceptions for epic. In the ongoing dispute between apple and epic, the makers of Fortnight Apple has now threatened to revoke epochs access to irs and Mac developer tools by removing it from the apple developer program unless it cuts out the payment processing option that is at the cause of the rifts. Apple and Google removed fortnight from the APP store and the play store in response to epic attempts to avoid guidelines that forced in APP purchases of digital goods to go through apple and Google epic has prepared lawsuits suing the two companies for Anti Competitive Practices and has also filed a preliminary injunction asking the courts to prevent apple from cutting off from the developer program. Otherwise, apple says epic has until August twenty eighth to make the changes. crypto mining worms deals aws credentials. What appears to be the first crypto mining malware operation that contains functionality to steal aws credentials from infected servers has been discovered according to research published earlier this year by trend micro a cybercrime group called team TNT uses malware that searches for docker systems that have been mis configured, and if left their management API exposed on the Internet without a password, a further report from UK security firm. Kato. Security says that team TNT has upped its game to target coober netease installations and steal aws credentials in addition to selling the stolen credentials on the black market. This type of exploit may allow team TNT to boost its profits by installing crypto mining malware in more powerful aws EC two clusters directly. Microsoft Delayed Zero Day fix for two years. A security flaw in Microsoft Windows had been actively exploited through malware attacks for two years before it was patched. Last week says Brian Krebs. One of these flaws dealt with the way windows validates digital signatures for computer programs in order to sign executed files and scripts, and ensure that the code has not been changed corrupted Microsoft itself said an attacker could bypass security features by spoofing the credentials. Microsoft has been quiet about why it took so long to make to fix despite acknowledging that its products were being actively exploited. British students grades Algorithm reveals potential for cultural bias in AI. A grading algorithm intended to produce fair results while controlling for potential grade inflation by ambitious teachers has resulted in unfair greater reductions and disproportionate amounts of negative impacts on students from disadvantaged backgrounds applied to British, a levels the equivalent to advanced placement test in the US high achieving students from disadvantaged backgrounds were allegedly left unfairly punished while underachieving students from affluent areas were undeservedly rewarded since students grades were largely based on their postal code and social economic status even UK Education Secretary Gavin Williamson acknowledged there were problems on the exercise is being seen as evidence of how cultural bias can penetrate artificial intelligence application design. oculus users envision a facebook future. Virtual Reality headset users will be forced to use a facebook account in order to maintain an oculus account facebook, which owns oculus says, existing accounts will stay functional until January first twenty, twenty three after which users and developers must go through facebook. The company stated quote facebook will manage all decisions around us, processing retention and sharing of your data. UNQUOTE OCULUS will also adopt facebook's core community standards. On C.. So series dot. com We've got a short highlights reel of last week's cease Oh series video chat entitled Hacking Healthcare Security Please join us this Friday August twenty first or the discussion will be hacking third party risk. These conversations start at ten am Pacific one PM Eastern and are open to all at the end of the hour jump into our cyber security speed dating where all participants are randomly matched up in short five minute one on one meetings. It's a lot of fun just head to see. So series dot com and click on the register for video chats button. I'm Steve Prentice reporting for the series. cybersecurity headlines are available every weekday head to see. So series dot com for the full stories behind the headlines.

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The Cocktail

Behind the bottom line

13:46 min | 11 months ago

The Cocktail

"Hi I'm Jane. Scofield the Creator. This podcast behind the bottom line. Business isn't really about numbers it's about people behind. The bottom line is a collection of the funny sad and frankly weird events that I've experienced in business and which I turned into stories to various magazines in each episode. I tell you a little bit about the real life background that inspired me and then I read you the story itself. So let's find out about today's story. The cocktail the cocktail was written in two thousand nine and appeared in business. Might in the first half of two thousand ten and it was actually my first story. I Short Story Attrition a magazine beforehand. I'd written Three or four novellas on different topics and fellas and also comedies. But this is the first short story. Cocktail is about a young city. London trader called Justice Link and as the name suggests. Jasper is not particularly nice guy and he's made an awful lot of money by various devious methods to do with trading on. I think the which can see is in the story I. He comes to a sticky end. The WANNA say too much. But he doesn't end well for Jessica on different things which came together. When I was writing the cocktail festival. I had a little bit of experience of the kind of people in the story. New People like Jessica. Some of them I went to school with. I'm and I also had a period shortly after university whereas working as a delivery driver for a wine merchants and the wind much had a chain of POPs all over the city of London. One day I might telling the story of how I need. He ran over the champion of the Bank of England. I'm but they had lots of these different pubs Baas with names like the boot and flow gone kind of names. That's that's reflected a little bit in the name that I give the Baath Jasper goes to the boom. Bam and these POPs. They had this kind of sort of Victorian scene to them they were all full of dunk and it was all supposed to be very kind of cozy and but also they. W- they were filled with. They were filled with these with these young traders and hedge fund managers and most of them were all of them but most of them fairly objectionable. So I'd seen quite a lot of these characters like Jesse Lincoln particularly at that time in the eighties. When I was doing this job the the there was a very much. A feeling was posts deregulation of the city of London and the financial institutions and There was this really turbo charged economy financial services with the thing. And if you were in that you had people feeling that they could do more or less. Anything I think also this I mean ultimately this this kind of attitude led to the financial crash of two thousand eight with the collapse of Lehman brothers and so on and it was really close by people like justice. Think I believe I'm thinking that they could get away with with cheating and lying stealing doing whatever they wanted to do. And in a way as pose this story is kind of a little bit of revenge on on people like that serve. What I also found was that whenever I have whenever there's something that I don't quite understand The best way for me to force myself to understand it is to write a short story and in two thousand two thousand and nine or so. I was really interested in the idea of short selling. What exactly will short setting and tries I. I could never understand it so I thought okay. Let's include that in this short story? An it meant that I was forced myself away. Look it up and try to understand it And an input into the story though. I have to admit that after about six months when I looked again I suddenly realized forgotten entirely what short-selling was and it's something that I can understand when I read about it but then as soon as I'm not reading about it or have any particular reason to understand it just disappeared. I'm the last element that influenced. The cocktail was funny enough with something that my mother told me my mother my mother's father so my grandfather who. I never knew because he died before I was born But he was. He was quite a strange interesting character. didn't spend much time at home. He spent a lot of his time traveling around the Middle East and my mother once said that she only one piece of advice from her father my grandfather and that was stay away from cocktails communism now quite why he had those two things in his head. I don't know but they certainly played a part in creating the content. I should add one word of warning in the story I described. I think three different hotels. I'm don't try mixing the mule cells. I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. I just flung those ingredients together. See what would happen and I think it probably tastes disgusting and not something that you really WanNa try particularly the last one making kidding. So That's enough introduction. Let's now turn to the story. The cocktail JESPERSEN INK. Brush the white powder off his nose and looked at himself with admiration in the mirror of the men's room. He had made the cleverest deal if his life and he felt like a God. He closed the tool windows that looked onto the Thames and went back to the bar of the Berlin bear. The Bloomberg was a favorite bar for the trading in Hedge Fund managers working in London financial markets that they could avoid ordinary people without an Armani suit rolex. Porsche Smith he was the main bombing head hunted from the Ritz. Where he'd mixed drinks for forty years. He performed magic with a cocktail Shaker. Enter his customers. At the Bloomberg he made a range of new drinks with a finance team. Insider trading was very popular. He reminded Jasper of a sad old schoolteacher. Jasper climbed onto a boss will look around. He wants to boast about his deal but at four o'clock in the afternoon the Baugh was still quiet. He wished Irina with the Black Mascara and the microscope. Who served drinks later in the evening would appear but there was only a depressed looking smitty better than nobody. Jasper tip please. Mitty with smooth movements the bombing mixed drive a moose. Vodka poured onto ISIN added to drops. Chilly juice I said a hot tip Smith Andy to further to the cocktail and Jasper drank it down. His throat was on fire. His brain felt needle shop. Good Ones Smitten. Well I made a killing this week. Lucky you MR slink says Bauman. I just lost my savings on the stock market. I was going to retire this year. But no Jasper was amazed. The idea of somebody is older. Smitty working the stock market seemed weird. Well you make me a dividend and I'll make you rich smitty set to work rum pineapple juice and brandy with some of the ingredients. But his hands were so quick. It was impossible to be sure tasted superb. Jasper felt all powerful. All wise short-selling smitty pardon sneak short-selling you bet on a company's share price going down last week. I'll went to a broker and I fee. I borrowed twenty thousand shares in a construction company that was trading at forty pounds. A share right straightaway. I sold them on the Stock Market for eight hundred thousand pounds. Don't you have to give the shares back? Yeah but Monday this week. A leading financial newspaper wrote this company may be investigated by the Financial Services Authority for bribery. The share price dropped instantly to three pounds. So I twenty thousand shares for sixty thousand pounds and return them to my broker today. Seven hundred forty thousand pounds profit who that was a very good guest Mr slink. Jasper was about to agree but his judgment had disappeared with his dividend instead. He leant towards the worried face of the old bombing. I paid a journalist to invent story. He Spit give me a market crash. One measure each of what curve Moose and Yagan my Ceron ice but this time Smith is hands shook because he put the drink in front of Jasper and some of its spilt on the ball. But what about the company will share price go up again? Nah The FSA is interested in them now. Big construction companies always has something dodgy in their books. The share price went move for awhile. Jasper finished glass at business. Meeting with with the company Victory Construction Smitty sat down heavily. Yeah that's it. Hey you will write. The old man looks ill but he pulled himself together. Sudden stood up. Mr Sleek would you test a new cocktail of created? Hasn't had a name yet by now. Jasper was having difficulty seeing straight but he nodded pleased by the offer. Measure Jack Daniels and Bacardi to measures of absence and something special said. Smitty quietly as he shook mix as Jasper finished his cocktail. The room fell sideways. Ask he needed A. He staggered to the men's room. Open the tool windows and lent against the rail stomach in agony. It only needed a little push from behind. Sent him over the edge. His final screen was drowned in London. Traffic Smitty stood behind the bom quietly polishing glasses thinking sadly about his lost retirement money but at least he still had his job and a new cocktail. He'd call it making a killing. I hope you enjoyed this episode of behind the bottom line. Why don't you subscribe to make sure you never miss an episode and please tell your friends and writer review so that other people can find out about behind the bottom line. Take UNTIL NEXT TIME. Bye Bye been.

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Shattered Souls BONUS: Tips for the Surfer

Thinking Sideways Podcast

11:39 min | 2 months ago

Shattered Souls BONUS: Tips for the Surfer

"We, true crime fans are all pretty spoiled when it comes to content ID oxygen Netflix's HBO who Showtime Amazon Prime Apple the list of networks just goes on and on the hard part at least for me is figuring out when all of the stuff is coming out. That's where my new favorite website comes in crime H Q dot. com. They not only curate. The. Top crime stories from around the world but they also bring all of the latest podcast docs shows books and more into one place along with ratings and reviews. It literally saves me hours each week I've bookmarked crime HQ DOT COM and it's become my new go-to site every morning check it out and I think you'll love it crime HQ DOT Com. So. Star. You can. Go down. The. Real. This is shattered souls. I'm your host Karen Smith, this podcast contains language and is not suitable for children. SES. Do Real. Welcome back. I told you before I'm going to relate a couple of pretty funny stories that happened to me along my years of the Jacksonville Sheriff's office not every call I went to was doom and gloom not every call was a homicide. There were plenty that were actually hilarious and this is one of them and it was actually funny for both me and eventually for the victim of. Burglary that I went to and here's the story. I worked the entire city of Jacksonville which was huge. So I could get a call at the beach and then follow up with a call all the way across town. So I drove quite a bit and in between all that driving calls would come in and what we would do as whoever was closest to the call. We would generally just snatch it from HQ when she would put it out over the radio. Well, that's how I got this call. It was a burglary to A. Restaurant, and it was way out Atlantic Boulevard almost to the beach. So I drove down Atlantic and on the left hand side was this large restaurant and I was familiar with it. I've actually been there a few times for dinner. So I pulled into the parking lot and I see this little old man standing there with his arms crossed clearly he was pretty pissed and I could see immediately that the front door had been smashed the glass had been smashed everywhere and I said Hi. Sir I can see you had a break in. Can you tell me what happened and he was just so cross his lips were turned down and he looked at the door and he goes yeah they broke my front door the glass and they took the tip jar off of the bar and I said anything else and he goes no they just took my tip jar. He goes. Yeah. That's really expensive for me because I can't put it through insurance. It's three hundred dollars for A. Brand new glass door, and all they took was the damn tip jar. So there really wasn't a whole lot for me to do so I processed, but I could the crossbar on the door, the bar really that was about it. No shoeprints no nothing just a bunch of broken glass. So I did what I could and I left two or three days later I hear a call go over the radio and it's the same address and I looked at the call on my laptop and I said. You've got to kidding me not again. So I said HQ, just send that call to me ten four. So I get the screen and sure enough it's the same restaurant. So I drove across town to Atlantic Boulevard pulled in the parking lot in that same man was standing there in the exact same spot with the exact same expression on his face. So I got out of my van and he looked at me and I looked at him and I said your glass, got broken. Again, he goes yeah and the son of a bit took my tip jar again. Okay. So brand new glass door took the tip jar nothing else he said no nothing else. They just took the tip jar and I processed it again he was really pissed off as another three hundred dollars out of his wallet. He couldn't put it through his insurance and I said Sir let me give you a piece of advice. Let's not leave the tip jar on the counter anymore and he goes. Well. I. Didn't plan to and like okay. All right. Just trying to help two or three days later sure enough another call came in. I had to laugh because HQ send it to me and before I could finish my sentence HQ goes ten for eighty to twenty. Sending to you drive out say man same position now he's smiling he's looking at me and he's actually got a smile on his face and I thought Oh my God what the Hell is going on here so i. Pulled in I. Got Out I. stood next to my door and I kind of chuckled and he stood there and he kind of chuckled back and I said again and he goes Oh. Yeah. Yeah. They broke my door and I said I thought I. told you take the tip jar and not leave it on the bar and he goes Oh, I didn't the tip jar wasn't on the bar I said, okay. What did they do this time he goes Oh, they took the fucking Jack Daniels I guess that's one way that trying to do some community policing really didn't help they cleaned him out of Jack Daniels I have no idea what happened I don't think we ever caught this person I am assuming it was probably somebody desperate alcohol tip jar kind of includes maybe somebody that was homeless or somebody that was just spread regardless the poor man had to fix his door again he didn't leave the tip jar in the bar and I think he started hiding the liquor behind the bars. Well but that was the last call I got. I remember taking a vitamin every morning at breakfast when I was a kid getting the right vitamin supplements is still important to me which is why I took care of. 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What you receive is totally up to you for fifty percents off of your I, care of order, go to take care of Dot Com and enter code crime con fifty that's take care of dot com code crime con fifty for fifty percents off of your I, care of order care of makes it easy to maintain your health goals with a customized vitamin plan to help you feel your best today and to support you long-term. That's take care of DOT com. So. There's one fun story for you. Guys are one more. This was also toward the beaches and it was also a burglary, but it was probably the strangest call I've ever had I drive out to this kind of rundown apartment complex. So I get there and it's a two story building in it's kind of a beechy building beige with light blue doors and light blue trim I see this dude, and I don't know how else to describe the sky. But if any of you have seen fast times at ridgemont. High. I swear to God it was Jeff. Speak only in the flesh it was a surfer guy he had the pook bead necklace he had the board shorts flipflops long stringy blond hair and he was just kind standing there against the building I thought well, maybe that's my dude. So I walked over and said Sir are you the one that reported a burglary and he goes Oh, dude, Ya I came home from really righteous day on the beach o somebody took my most favourite surfboard from inside my living room. Well, that's that Kinda sucks. So he walk me upstairs to a second floor apartment and I could see through the living room that he had four or five surf boards kind of stacked against the wall in there, and there was a big space between them and I thought well, okay that's obviously we're the surfboard was but I looked at the front door and I looked at the windows that were out front and I said, well, I don't see any signs of forced entry. Are you sure that somebody came in that you didn't know do you have a roommate? You have somebody that used to live here that maybe had access and he goes. No I live here alone and I know that somebody was inside my apartment. Okay. How do you know this and he goes well, let me explain my story. Out this Oughta be good. Go ahead. Tell me I am part native American and because I am part native American I like feathers. Okay. And I leave my feathers that I find on the outside of my window sill and you can see them here. They're beautiful. Yes they are beautiful. Well, I had a very special feather that was out here on the window sill and when I came home today. That feather was not on the outside of the window sell it was on the in side. Oh okay. So you're telling me that somebody came in through your window and then took your surfboard out the window. That's my best guess. Oh, don't. Do you have a back door I do, but it's a patio it would be out back I said, okay great. I'm going to go trip back there for a second you hang out here. So I walked around back of the apartment and I looked up and right there leaning against the back of his apartment on the balcony was his favorite surfboard it was pink and white. So I walked back around and I said Sir what color is your surfboard Oh my favorite surf board. It was a beautiful off White Gordon Smith with three fins and it had this beautiful pink outline and he starts crying. I said WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA Whoa Dude Dude Chill your surfboard is on your balcony. What? My board is on my balcony. Oh my God who my God and he goes running through his apartment and he finds it on his balcony and he comes back and he gives me this huge. Hug. People I thought that dude was GONNA blaze up right in front of me he was so happy. Yeah. Maybe you should lay off the bench and you know try some water try some vitamins. Jacksonville was an interesting place to work. I'll be relating a couple more of these to you guys over the next few weeks Oh, and quick update for you on the cases that I want to bring forth for season two I'm still waiting on the foia request but I am in touch with a woman in charge and she's working her way through it. Especially can cova does making everything really difficult for everyone, but progress is being made. So as soon as I get that case file, all start writing and I'll start pumping out some the episodes for season two. So just sit tight. But I'll try to keep you entertained with more of these ridiculous stories out of my case files guys take care be well. Real.

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SN 781: SpiKey - Ransomware Hits Jack Daniel's, Iranian Script-Kiddies, How Ransomware Happens

Security Now

2:03:22 hr | 3 months ago

SN 781: SpiKey - Ransomware Hits Jack Daniel's, Iranian Script-Kiddies, How Ransomware Happens

"It's time for security now, Steve Gibson here coming up what are the University of Utah Jack Daniels, and Carnival cruise lines have in common Steve has the answer. We'll also talk about the number one way ransomware gets on your system. It's not what you think. Steve. Has An explanation, and then we'll take a look at an amazing bit of research showing how you can. Pick a lock. Just by listening. It's all coming up next on security now. Security now comes to you from twits. Last pass studios securing every access point in your company doesn't have to be a challenge. Last pass unifies access and authentication to make securing your employees simple and secure. Even when they're working remotely checkout last past dot com slash twit to learn more. Long. PODCASTS you love from people you trust. This is. This is security now with Steve Gibson episode seven, hundred, Eighty, one recorded Tuesday August twenty fifth twenty twenty spiky. This episode of security now is brought to you by what Sabi hot cloud storage thinking about moving your data storage to the cloud was Saab is enterprise class cloud storage at one fits. The price of Amazon S. three and faster than the competition with no fees for Egress or API requests and no complex storage tiers started free trial was Sabi Dot Com and the code security now. And by security scorecard, security scorecard helps enterprises managed digital threats with a three hundred sixty degree view of cybersecurity health through a single pane of glass to learn more and sign up for your free account visit security scorecard, dot, com slash twit. And by extra hop, extra hop, keep your business secure available with SAS based cloud native network detection and response. Learn more about how extra hops stops reaches seventy percent faster and experience the free trial for yourself at extra hop dot com slash security now. It's time for security. Now show recover your safety, your privacy or security online with our major Domo the man in charge Mr Steve Gibson Steve. Does lay. Oh, good to see you. I, did confirm. Yes. This is the launch of year sixteen wow. It was August nineteenth which was last Wednesday. Of Two thousand five, that was our our. Maiden voyage on this journey that. You proposed fifteen years ago. Thank God, you didn't have a crystal ball. Because this has been should be at Leeann you're one of my longest long latte longest lasting relationships. Same here. Same here that I've never cheated on you Steve Not. Once. They're. Okay there have been others yes I. Know there have been others. I've been able to share those experiences wells. That's true. Relationship coming. We're going to be doing a an event. In jeopardy celebrates diversity months. Tober for Bob, we'll have details and kill then. We have a little bit of a play on words. That's not my play on words. It's there's. Spiky S. P. I capital K. E. Y. we're going to talk about a an incredibly cool bit of technology An opportunity to sort of. Step back a little bit and look at the landscape of. Of the best this whole like. The low tech meets high-tech essentially, but we'll get to that I. WE'RE GONNA talk about. A new chrome, remote, code, Execution Flaw, which happily People will be patching when they moved to chrome eighty five I forgot the look and see whether I want eighty-five today supposed to be happening today. We also have some interesting news of three new ransomware victims. Some two of the three very well known an emergency patch from Microsoft and a little bit of the backstory around that. The emergence of amateur remote desktop protocol exploiters. And weirdly coincident with this podcasts fifteenth birthday which occurred. Was it last week or this week anyway. I get. These BS zero based or one based issues or a constant source of programming bugs and also brain bugs for me. Anyway the fifty, th birthday of the Zero Day initiative? Actually, I guess it would have been last week because there's happened one day after hours. The has the world's first null terminated podcasts so I understand confusion. Yeah. Yes. Very good. We also have I found a finally a good windows ten garbage wear remover that I'm going to talk about I'm going to offer some recommendations of several of my most. Successful Remote Networking Utilities we've got a bit submit a bit of miscellany some spin right news, and then we're finally going to examine a really terrific new high-tech hack against low tech locks and keys, and of course, we've got a really good. Funny very funny picture of the week after week. Yeah. Yeah, and also apropos. Great. I'm excited than other great show in the offing. Before, we delve into those mighty matters. Let me talk a little bit about something. Very hot. was. Not. The Sabi horseradish that you have with your Sushi though was Sabi hot cloud storage that I am such a big fan of you know and I admit. I'm a little prejudiced it was founded. By two of my great friends specifically David. Friend who was the CEO of Carbonite but he's a serial entrepreneur going way back two days designing the ARP synthesizer working with stevie wonder he's really an amazing fellow. One of the things that he and Jeff came up with in the early days of their research was a way to write too hard drives sequentially instead of sector-by-sector patented then and it it's actually was how Carmen I started and now with Sabi it, it turns out. That's a much faster and a much more efficient way of rain into the disk, it saves them money. So that saves you money they pass the savings onto you was Sabi. Cloud storage is a perfect alternative for anybody who says you know we're going to buy more on Prem storage effect we're going to get a certain amount every week every month every year from now on. That's very common because you look at Your Business you're cranking out data at a fairly consistent pace, and in many cases, you need to save that data for a long time that means either buying on prem storage or finding something better. That's was Sabi. Saudis eighty percent cheaper than Amazon s three. It's significantly cheaper that on prem storage even in fact, typically you can store data and with Saba cloud. For less than just the maintenance fees. On that storage if you bought the drives if you had it on premises less than the maintenance fees alone was Sabi is a really great proposition. 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But for what it's worth standalone I e in Oh sooner or later the grim reaper is GonNa is going to succeed, and then back that grim reaper may actually be named. Microsoft. Google chrome users should today. Be Moving to chrome eighty five most users don't need to do anything, which is good. It just updates itself. But this will fix a potentially serious remote Code Execution Vulnerability in Crumbs Web gl rendering engine. It's a use after free read flaw which was discovered by Cisco's Talos Security Group and it was responsibly reported to Google more than three months ago back on May Nineteenth Google quickly put the fix into their early release cycle in the in the Dev and the Beta. Channels of just a couple of weeks later in early June. And the stable channel, which I and most of US use is. 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So what do the University of UTAH? Jack. Daniels. Whiskey. And Carnival cruise lines all have in common. Well Friday last last Friday. The University of Utah revealed that it had paid a ransomware gang four, hundred and fifty seven dollars. And fifty nine cents. Four, hundred, Fifty, seven, thousand. Yes I got that would have been. Four hundred and fifty, seven, thousand dollars and fifty, nine, hundred, and fifty thousand. Fifty nine dollars. which sort of begs the question or they get that number? Now that I finally got it out correctly, it's probably bitcoin. Nine dollars like half a million bucks. It's like the Bitcoin version thing they probably would. Yes somewhere. BITCOIN that turned out to be that. And what's interesting is that was not to obtain the decryption key for their files. They didn't need it because it turns out that very few of their files were encrypted but rather her and Leo I know this goes to you know the thing that were you just kind of like. Grit your teeth to purchase the promise. From the extortionists. That the student information that had been exfiltrated beforehand while. Yeah that's not be publicly released your Seymour. One this is big. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're just they're hoping that the there is honor among thieves and that these guys will keep their word in senators. Word is that if if you want others to pay you yes. That's it. Exactly. If, of course, ransomware gangs or not all the same but and didn't we hear no, it wasn't It was cannon that had some information leaked last week that we reported on and so so Lawrence over at bleeping computer has said that you know they assumed since the jetsons cannon got themselves back up relatively quickly that they had paid the ransom. But now since the extortionists in that instance were leaking the information, maybe cannon had restored from backups and said, Nah, we're not paying your stinking ransom and the bad guy said. Here comes your You know your your private corporate next decade plans for the future. How do you? How do you want that? How how do you feel about that being leaked? Anyway. So the in this case University of Utah explained. That it had dodged a major ransomware incident and that the attackers managed to encrypt only zero point zero, two percent. Of the data stored on their servers. And the university staff was easily able to restore that from backups. However, the ransomware group then threatened to release student related data see they had obtained and exfiltrated. So, the university said after careful consideration, the university decided to work with its cyber insurance provider to pay a fee to the ransomware attacker. This was done as a proactive and preventative steps to ensure information was not released on the Internet and again to the extent that such. Can Be ensured. The Cyber Insurance policy pay part of the ransom, and the university covered the remainder no tuition grant donation state or tax payer funds were used to pay the ransom thought that was an interesting explicit statement that they made. They said, the university disclosed that the attack took place a little over a month ago on July nineteenth twenty twenty and the network belonging to the Collar College of social and behavioral science was the victim. So Apparently A. A you know as a sub set of the. Entire Larger University. was where the break in occurred and there must have been some isolation there. So anyway, that is one of the three and presumably they were able to negotiate a cheaper payment in order to you know because they hit the bad guys hadn't managed to get. The bulk of the of the university stuff. But you know they did pay for they promised to not share student data, and as you said Leo, the reason that would be honored as well as you know, nearly half a million dollars. And they want to do. Yeah exactly. You got to build your credibility. Exactly And two other large and notable recent ransomware victims were Brown forman famous for their distillation of Jack Daniel's Tennessee whiskey. And Carnival cruises. The Jack Daniels folks said are quick actions upon discovering the attack prevented our systems from being encrypted. Unfortunately again, we believe some information including employee data was impacted. We are working closely with law enforcement as well as world class third party data security experts to mitigate and resolve this situation. As soon as possible, there are no active negotiations so. In that. So that says it sorta sounds like. Oh, in fact, a that statement from Brown forman came after Bloomberg News reported that it had received an anonymous tip of the ransomware attack a site on the dark web claiming to be run by members of the reveal strain. A ransomware says that it had obtained a terabyte of data from the Louisville Kentucky based. Brown. Foreman the site said that stolen data included contracts financial. Statements Credit Histories and internal correspondence of employees also included were screen shots of file structures documents purportedly taken during the heist. So does look like the pattern we're seeing now is because you know major companies that have the deep pockets who also have the pocket depth to now proactively backup their servers well. So it's possible for the for if if the only thing done was encryption. A golden opportunity to extract a ransom could be thwarted if the if the good guys have backups at. So now what's being done is That data pre encryption is being exfiltrated and stored somewhere. Then the data is encrypted and so we have you know we're we're we're increasingly seeing this two part attack exfiltration that the company desperately does not want to be made public. In case they have backups in which case, they would not otherwise need to pay the extortion. So you know it's not really ransomware as much as it is. Okay. We got copies of all your stuff. Shall we share it with the world? PLANO blackmail. Yup. And as Carnival Corporation, the operator of the world's biggest cruise lines, they disclosed that they were hit by ransomware attack provided that provided unauthorized access to personal data of passengers and employees that could be back exactly passport information as well as s address name birthdate I don't know if they collect socials but boy that's. A lot information they have and credit card numbers. Of course I'm do they have passport information because they're dare cross they're taking the cross. country. Unless it it's very rare that a cruises just within one nation If you're going to another country they they collect your passport so they have they have. Screen shots of it. I mean they physically. Ill, they hold it while you're. Yeah Wow. Yeah. So Identify I've been many of their. Cruise lines. The talent America or was one of them out and that was a Holland America. seaborn was a recent cruise of mine and of course, carnivals a big one in an offer. That's right. They own a lot of the cruise lines will, in fact, you said like the whole Cruise Modell, we love cruises we won't be going on ninety times. More the day. Yeah. I look back on that with nostalgia and affection. The good old. Yeah. I was actually talking to my buddy Mark Thompson whom you know he's launched at a little project to provide air quality monitoring in real time to health clubs or he he must. That's great. Yeah ran and in fact I don't know how much of this I I can talk about. So I'll say. I just realized but we were talking about the air quality in cruise lines as opposed to. Airliners and it turns out that it's like the air is fully completely exchanged on an airplane very often right but not. So on a cruise line, which which deliberately maintains a closed cycle system because they because the external air is often not what passengers wannabe be breeze mug no control over humidity it's subtropical or whatever. Although. The lines on the small ships I go one we always have a balcony windows we can open and we always eat outside. So I'm not worried about that. But yeah, I would imagine some of those big ships you're not breathing outside air ever no yeah. No. Yeah, and so it is internally recycled and not of the highest quality. So Anyway Carnival said they had not yet identified, which of their many subsidiary lines was breached but because are publicly traded. They did need to disclose to the US Securities and Exchange Commission. The nature of the attack in their regulatory filing, they said based on its preliminary assessment and on the information currently known in particular that the incident occurred in a portion of a brands information technology systems. The company capital C. does not believe the incident will have a material impact on its business operations or financial results. Nonetheless we expect that the security event included unauthorized access to personal data of guests and employees, which may result in potential claims from guests, employees, shareholders, or regulatory agencies although we believe that no other information technology systems of the other companies brands have been impacted by this incident based upon our investigation to date there can be no assurance that other information technology systems of the companies brands will not be adversely affected. So a you know a CYA statement floor the for the regulatory requirements. which brings me to an interesting set of reports that were just released. Certainly, we all likely agree that a ransomware attack is the last thing any company wants given what we keep seeing. So. The question is how exactly are these occurring? The traditional answer has been phishing email. which hooks some well meaning but unsuspecting insider. Well while fishing email is indeed a popular entry-point veteran. These three recent reports from cove wear emphasis soft. Yeah M. I keep tripping over that emphasis M sis. Yeah M emphasis soft and recorded future. Clearly show that fishing actually takes a backseat to our old friend RDP, and I have a chart on page two of the notes. which is really interesting. This is a it's a ransomware attack vectors. Over time and. It would be a pie chart except a pie chart can't show. Percentage change over time. So this is a line chart from fourth quarter of twenty eighteen through the second quarter of twenty twenty. So Up to current. which where it's showing that percent of. Of cases. Of RTP, compromise email, phishing, software, vulnerability, or other. So it's it's like a pie chart varying over time. So consequently, for example, at in in the fourth quarter of two thousand eighteen by far and away the majority of the attacks. Looks like maybe just eyeballing it maybe eighty five percent were RDP. That down as a percentage can as eight. This makes is That big a problem. Yes, it is yes holy. and. These guys provide the raw data to back that up and it's windows RDP right? It's Microsoft Windows is a yes. Windows is one hundred percent RDP. and. So so email phishing did come up as a percentage which pushed the percentage of our DP down but it's holding it's own, and then of course, what happened in the Dow in Twenty Twenty and twenty? Well in the first and second quarters of two thousand twenty is due to that that Cova D- And the the the dramatic increase of hastily brought up RDP services in order to allow remote access s that began you know that essentially began fighting with with email phishing as an entry point. So those are the two but. Email phishing never even reached parody with RTP. It's it's it's gone up and down, but RDP is holding its own which I think is one of the one of the things that I it's GonNa spend some time talking about here in their report emphasis soft explained what's happened this year they said in recent months, organizations across every sector have come to rely heavily on remote desktop protocol to maintain business continuity while respecting social distancing and back up a little bit Leo, just to address your your your your comment remember that. There have been a series of really bad. Authentication problems with RTP. Don't they use VPN's and other solutions WHO's using? E. That's there are eighty, eight, hundred, thousand, eight, zero, thousand exposed RTP services on the Internet. It is absolutely crazy but they're just assuming that you know Oh. Yeah you know it must be secure because Microsoft says we can turn it on well. Microsoft said that once about Windows Printer and file sharing Cemil how that mean Barracuda in their ad says ninety one percent of all. ransomware attacks comes through a phishing email spear phishing emails, and everyone I heard about is a spear phishing email I can't imagine canon or carnival or any of these people's using RDP. That's crazy. In. In terms of number I'm sure it's the smaller guys that are deploying that technology that they need to. Anyway so so MC soft said however the rapid shift to remote. To remote working has also provided a unique opportunity for ransomware groups. Threat Actors predicted that many organizations would not have the time or resources to securely implement RDP during the mass transition to working from home, and as a result may be vulnerable to compromise. They were right according to a McAfee report, the number of Internet exposed. RDP. Ports grew from approximately. Oh, boy I under buy low balled it. From approximately are you sitting down Leo? Three, million in January of two, thousand, twenty, two more than four point, five, million in March so. In. In less than three months. An additional one and a half million additional RTP ports became publicly exposed. Later. In their report, they note that while the threat is not new and of course, as we know all too well on this podcast. The global shift to remote working has revealed many organizations do not adequately secure our DP and that the bad guys are taking advantage according to a report by Kaspersky. At the start of March twenty twenty, there were about. Two hundred thousand daily brute force. Attacks in the US. But by mid April just six weeks later. That number had grown from two hundred thousand to nearly one point three million brute force attacks per day. Now today RDP is added as the single biggest attack vector for ransomware. So. So, all of these four point five million RDP ports are publicly exposed and they are being actively attacked and and what is to me shocking is that Even, now Microsoft has not stepped up and offered better security. and so you know, of course, this obviously underscores the point I've been making, which is that RDP simply cannot be safely exposed to the Public Internet. And there are two reasons It's no longer sane to trust that Microsoft hasn't or won't make a mistake in their prevision of the RDP service they've done so over and over in the past, and as we'll be learning in a few minutes, they just released an emergency patch for two more privilege elevation flaws in windows remote access service, which is what RTP as part of. The second reason we cannot trust RTP is that its native authentication mechanism are pathetic I went looking for something that I that I thought I might not know about RDP authentication thinking Microsoft had must have fixed this and I found a a very recent. It was only a couple months old best practices advisory from Microsoft on securing our DP authentication it amounted to be sure to use a strong password. There is zero multi factor support for RTP, which is unconscionable. There are multiple third parties who have responded to this need created by Microsoft by creating their own much more secure RDP gateways which are laden with authentication features so You know if you don't feel like rolling your own solution and you do have money to burn because none of these third party solutions are inexpensive. You could simply throw some money at the problem and by yourself. This much-needed security. or You could get a bit clever and roll your own. If the clients you have connecting have fixed Ip's. Restricting access to the RTP port from only those Ip's is an immediate proven fast insecure solution. If. The IP's are largely fixed as with the typical residential broadband service the use of A. DNS solution can allow for tracking their infrequent but possible changes. And typical changes may be so infrequent that updating the access firewall from dying. DNS. Doesn't even need to be automated I i. know that the you know the IP's that I maintain in my two locations. They're essentially static they. They haven't changed like in years. But if highly dynamic roaming access is needed, then no form of IP based access restriction will suffice. This lifts the requirement for authentication from the network layer to the application layer again, history teaches. That what we must avoid is public access to an RDP end point just there's no safe way to protect it we can't trust Microsoft and we can't allow for this brute force brute forcing of our authentication. You know one point, three, million attacks per day is ongoing right now. So that requires the use of something in front of the RDP an point I've talked about using a VPN offering some form of. And That we're the VPN offer some form of strong multi factor authentication either a time based one time password or certificate based but I wanted to add another option to the pot. By noting that SSH is widely available. Almost off all almost always offers the very strong authentication options that we're looking for and it can be used to tunnel RDP. In fact, if you Google tunnel RDP over SSh, you'll be rewarded with all the suggestions you might need and for all os platforms. The only. As I was thinking about this, the only theoretical downside is that as a purist both RDP he an ssh used TCP long ago when we were first covering the operation VPN's in this podcasts. Deep. History I noted that there can be some tunnel confusion when t C. P. is tunneled inside. TCP. Since then you have two sets of TCP's error recovery and packet retransmission. The theoretical optimal solution is for the VPN tunnel to use dumb old you DP packets and for the tunneled protocol. for for an to use UD packets for the tunnel protocol and then RDP, over TCP, which is carried by the UDP tunnel. So that way the RDP's TCP. Protocol. Handles any packet losses and re transmission, and those are carried over UDP. I did find some SSH UDP tunnelling systems, but there is so much apparent success with simply tunneling RDP over standard SSh TCP tunnels that it appears my theoretical concerns be nothing more than that just theoretical. So anyway, I wanted to propose another option to the need for somehow hiding RDP end points from the outside world. It's clearly necessary to add some other layer of security in front of RTP. Somebody in our chat whose company uses it say this they use a proxy server in front of it. So it's not publicly available IP address. Yeah which makes you just have to hide it yeah. And I'll I'll. I'll mention one more Microsoft issue and then we'll take our second break last Thursday. Microsoft issued an emergency out of cycle update for Windows eight point one, eight point, one RT, and windows server that the matching server instance of a point one which was Windows Server Twenty twelve are to. The emergency update patches a pair of recently disclosed security vulnerabilities. I have a link in the show notes because. From my reading of this doesn't look like this is going to be an automatic update maybe they'll roll them out next month. What's interesting is they're both high severity privilege escalation vulnerabilities residing in the remote access service, which is obviously a particularly vulnerable area of a server. Interestingly, both of these vulnerabilities were patched as part of the previous weeks August patch Tuesday. But that was for windows ten windows seven for those on extended support and Windows Server two, Thousand Eight, Twenty Twelve Twenty Sixteen Twenty nineteen and windows server versions nineteen o three nineteen o nine and two thousand and four systems in other words everything other than windows eight point one and its corresponding server twenty twelve are too. So as near as I can determine. That these patches for those two operating systems just weren't ready in time to make you know whatever quality control. If any Microsoft is applying to the monthly patch cycle. But at the same time, they were critical for Microsoft to leave them hanging since somebody examining the patches and we now though that, no, that happens somebody examining the patches for the other. Oh S.'s could probably figure out what it was that was fixed and note that they had not been fixed in Windows Server Twenty twelve are two and then perhaps. Go attack it. By reverse engineering what had been fixed in all the other platforms. So as I said, it may be that they need to be manually patched and installed. It wasn't clear. Assuming that they'll be part of next month's patch batch. I would say that end users probably don't need to worry because you know windows eight point one probably doesn't have. Any remote access services publicly exposed in the typical end user environment behind a NAT router. So Unless you're were unless you're actually running windows server two, thousand, twelve or two you probably don't need to worry. But if you are I would sir I would certainly think that worth going to get that or making sure that it isn't already updated. Microsoft. This covert I think tells you why it's so big because is one particular kind of ransomware phobos that focuses on RTP and it's ransomware is a service. Oh, any idiot. And and all the credentials are available online for pennies. So any idiot can go either do a show Dan or get some credentials, and then you don't have to know what you're doing whereas any spear phishing attack anything more sophisticated is gonNA take a lot more effort. So is low-hanging fruit. You probably don't make a lot of money with it. You know these are the hundred dollar two, hundred dollars three, hundred dollar ransom. Back half-million. Yes, and in fact it that you what you have just said is exactly where we're headed right after our second break and I even use the phrase low hanging fruit because Yeah Yup now I understand it doesn't counter intuitive. But of course is not because lots of people who don't know what they're doing or putting RTP. Out in the public which xactly. So When there's so many better solutions out there. But it's you know it comes with windows way you know it's available. Why not? And turned on yeah. Wow and then they're using monkey. one-two-three is the Password I. Mean Saturday the same people, right? 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This was some interesting and disturbing research by a group known as group one be I'm sorry I, Be Group B. they detailed the collision of RDP and ransomware the explained that apparently like from all the forensic evidence, these look like low skilled hackers will explain why in a second likely from Iran have joined the ransomware business targeting companies and Russia India China and Japan. They're going after the new low hanging fruit represented by casually or hastily deployed RDP servers using publicly available tools. The group is deploying the Dharma ransomware and based on the forensic artifacts of the attacks it appears to be. A non sophisticated purely financially as opposed to example, politically or state level motivated group, which is new to cybercrime their extortion demands range. They're pretty modest from one to five bitcoin, which puts it at around eleven thousand, seven, hundred up to maybe sixty thousand dollars and they locate targets. The old fashioned way by scanning Ip address ranges for exposed. Remote desktop protocol RDP and points. Their tool of choice is a freely available open source port scanner called Mass Scan we've talked about before. once they've located a potential target they which is to say they found port three, three, eight, nine, open they launch a brute force authentication attack using another tool NFL brute, which is a utility that simply repeatedly attempts to authenticate against RDP using a list of username and passwords attempting to find a combination that works if they get in they sometimes attempt to elevate their privileges by exploding old vulnerability which exists in windows seven through ten. And researchers at this. Company Group. IB learned about the new group A couple of months ago in June during an incident response engagement at a company in Russia that had been attacked based on that forensic analysis and the artifacts from that, they determined that the attacker to probably be a Persian speaking newbie. The the conclusion is supported by clues from the next stages that they found of the attack. which appear to lack the confidence that you would expect from an actor who knows essentially what to do once they've gotten in. I be. Like Oh. What are you recommend? Group IB wrote interestingly, the threat actors likely don't have a clear plan for what to do with the compromise networks. Once they've established the RDP connection, they decide which tools to deploy to move laterally. For instance, to disable Bilton, a software, the attackers used defender control, and your uninstall her. Who which are you know? Tools available sort of generic in order to to get done what they want nothing sophisticated they're. Further evidence that the operation is the work of a script Kiddie from Iran comes from search queries in Persian. To find other tools necessary for the attack like, okay. Let's see. What should we search for? Now to probably twelve year old. US anyway those those searches were were turned up in Persian language telegram channels which provide those tools or. The number of victims compromise so far by this attacker is not known. Nor is the path that led the threat actor to the Dharma ransomware service operation. You know are a s but. Given that the Dharma operators provide a toolkit that makes it easy for anyone to become a cyber criminal. It should not come as a surprise that inexperienced individuals are deploying this file encrypting malware is like oh? Oh Yeah. Wait. Now, we're supposed to launch the Dharma. Once they get in. So, the senior analyst at group IB. A guy named Oleg Skull skulking said that the Dharma ransomware source code which was leaked in March likely explained the increasing use of this model wear strain Oleg indicated that quote it's surprising that Dharma landed in the hands of Iranian script kitties who are using it for financial gain as Iran has traditionally been a land of state sponsored attacks engaged in espionage and sabotage. So in other words. You know I maybe it's not that surprising because it's sort of now available for everyone not just a state level actors. And of course, we've talked about how this new ransomware as a service model is allowing many hackers who would never be in the ransomware game to become players. And I I don't given that we have ransomware as a service. Now I don't see how this problem is ever going to go away. So again. No exposed open RDP ports. Okay. Not For our listeners. Arrange to put something anything in front of our DP so that you or your company are not open to exploitation. You know this is not as bad as Microsoft's original wide open windows file and printer sharing, which is what drove me to create GRC's shields up service. So many years ago, but it does definitely need a tension. No exposed RTP ports. Zero Day initiative. Zdi that we've also referred to recently turned fifteen. As I mentioned the top of show, it turns out that there's a bit of a synchronized fifteenth birthday since last Thursday postponed to owns founding parent the Zero Day initiative also turned fifteen. Just, as podcast did our first podcasts as I mentioned was August, Fifteenth Two thousand, five one day before the founding of these E D I program that's interesting on yeah. One day on last week's occasion of their Fifteenth Birthday Zdi. Announced that more than twenty five, million dollars in bounties had been paid to security researchers over the past decade and a half. Those monies went to more than ten thousand security researchers across more than seventy, five hundred since successful bugs submissions. In explaining the genesis of Zdi they said starting in two thousand five. Three com remember them three COM announced a new program called these zero day initiative. The plan was to financially reward researchers researchers who discovered previously unknown software vulnerabilities and disclose them responsibly. The information about the vulnerability would be used to provide early protection to customers through tipping points I s their intrusion prevention system. The filters for that while Best Zero Day initiative then worked with the affected products vendor. To fix the vulnerability. So. That's an interesting angle here that the commercial tipping point I P S would benefit from providing immediate awareness of a vulnerability and could offer their proprietary customers, their commercial customers, unique early protection. Thanks to the IP S.'s being immediately updated before any fix was available from the vendor, which as we know, could take like. Ninety days or more. That would then of course, the the vendor would then fix the problem downstream of the IP S. eventually. But even after the vendors problem was fixed, there's certainly some value in knowing when attacks are being launched against ones Ip s protection even when there's no. Back in vulnerability any longer. So anyway, that's that's sort of that's how this happened is that three com said, let's let's Get in the business of collecting this information from hackers that will allow us to much to mature our intrusion protection system. In advance of any vendors vulnerabilities being fixed, we offer our protected customers, this window of safety. For their own back end systems and we're going to turn this into a commercial venture. So, they ended up saying that first year, the Zdi published a total of one advisory. Pertaining to semantics Veritas Net backup. Fifteen years later they said we've now published as I said at the top fifteen hundred advisories as we evolved into the world's largest vendor asking. Bug Bounty Program. To say, it's been a journey is an understatement. It certainly had some ups and downs, but the program is stronger than ever and on track for our largest year ever as we begin our sixteenth year as they did last week as we did last week let's take a look at some of the more notable happenings in the life of the ZDI program. So I read through the entire posting and it provided such a useful and synchronized perspective and walk through the fifteen years of this podcast I. decided I wanted to share it with our listeners. So here's what they said. Fraught through the years of two, thousand, five through twenty, ten, their first five years they wrote looking back at our activities through these years induces nostalgia as it reminds us of the bugs we bought in products and companies that are no longer with us. We can also see the rise of research into different products and technologies. For example, we bought only to apple bugs in two thousand six, that number rose to fifty, two by two, thousand ten. Java bugs particularly sandbox escapes or also popular during this time, and of course, we were talking about them on this podcast all the time. They wrote it's a bit odd to look back at the progression from buying bugs in what was simply known as. To buying bugs in Sun Microsystems Java to buying bugs in Oracle's Java. This time period also saw the first pony to own contest, which was in two, thousand, seven, the contests, the contest launched at the time when I'm a Mac I'm a PC commercials dominated the airwaves. Devices. Remember that. Yeah. Yeah Yeah and apple devices had an aura of invincibility about them. Astute security researchers new better and DINO DIS OH v proved it winning himself a Mac book and ten thousand dollars. The contest has grown exponentially since then there are now three different competitions pawn to own Vancouver though the main one that we often come up yet we always cover which focuses on enterprise software phone to own Tokyo which focuses on consumer devices and Pony own Miami introduced this year with a focus on scatter products prone to own also served as a coming out for many high profile researchers who after winning the contest went on to work on various prestigious teams and projects. So from twenty, ten to twenty fifteen, their second five-year block they said, this was a transitional period for the program as three COM together with ZDI was purchased by Hewlett Packard. Then later split off as part of HP enterprise. However, the core principles upon which the program was founded remained the core principles we operate by today four of them encourage the responsible disclosure of zero day vulnerabilities to the affected vendors. Fairly Credit and compensate the participating researchers including yearly bonuses for researchers who are especially productive within the program. Hold product vendors accountable by setting a reasonable deadline for remediating reported vulnerabilities and remember we talked about a six month Zdi the patients that I had for six months and then finally disclosed publicly. Microsoft's one of those two zero days that Microsoft didn't fix until Zdi disclosed it, and then they thought, oh, because they just drag their heels and finally protect our customers and the larger ecosystem. So they said by this time, the Zdi was large enough to have an impact on the overall ecosystem it was during this period that we grew to become the world's largest vendor? Agnostic Bug Bounty Program title we still hold in twenty eleven. We had our first public zero day disclosure when a vendor failed to meet the patch deadline over the years holding vendors accountable has helped lowered their response time from more than one hundred and eighty days to less than one, hundred twenty even though we reduce start disclosure window, the rate of zero day disclosure stayed relatively consistent. Another big change during this period was the increase in research work done by the vulnerability researchers employed by the zd program. There have always been great people working on the program doing root cause analysis on submissions, but an increase in the size of the team allowed for members of Zdi to begin reporting their own bugs as well. ZDI researchers increasingly published their findings and expanded their speaking at high profile conferences including black hat and DEFCON. The increased size also helped spot some trends in exploitation. It was during this time that we saw a surge in submissions of Java bugs during or rather however once browsers implemented click to play practical exploitation became much more difficult bud bugs exploiting use after free conditions in i. e were also quite common until the isolated heap and meme G. C. Mitigation were silently introduced by Microsoft. ZDI researchers found a way to exploit the mitigations and were awarded one hundred, twenty, five, thousand dollars from Microsoft for their submission. Interestingly, Microsoft chose not to fix all the submitted bugs. So a portion of the report ended up as a public release zero day in they said in case you're wondering all of the money was donated to various stem charities. During this timeframe, the bug bounty landscape became normalized and broadened vendors such as Microsoft and Google started their own bounty programs and bug bounty programs were created that allowed companies like starbucks and Uber to offer bowties. And as we know by the bounty programs were created what they mean with. Them. Of course, is hacker one which we have spoken of often and just recently. They wrote the idea of crowdsourcing research entered the mainstream not every program was successful as some vendor suddenly realized that if you offer money for bug reports, you get bug reports. This left some companies scrambling to react after starting their program with mixed results. It was definitely a time of growth and learning throughout the industry pawn to own continued to grow as well. Twenty ten saw pawn to owns first successful mobile device exploit demonstrated by Ralf Philipp Weinmann and Vincenzo I-. Ozo-. Against the iphone the apple iphone three gs we also started seeing vendors release large patches just. Before the contest since the rules require the latest version for all exploits, contestants pawn to own contestants often found themselves patched out just before the contest. It also meant the Zdi had to scramble to get the targets up to date with all the latest patches often staying up all night installing updates in twenty twelve a second contest mobile phone to own was added to focus on phones and tablets. And finally, the Final v The final five years fifteen twenty to present. In two thousand, fifteen trend micro acquired the HP tipping point APS, and the program along with it. This opened a new world of opportunity for Zdi as the vulnerability intelligence produced by the ZDI program could now be used to improve not only the tipping point, I- ps, but other products within trend Micros line of security solutions as well. ZDI's association with trend micro also resulted in a massive increase in interest in vulnerabilities in trend micro products themselves to their credit trend micro produced Sorry Trend Micro product teams have not shied away from the work of fixing the bugs submitted by independent Zdi researchers, and we have established a targeted initiative program just for select trend products. The threat landscape shifted as well. Before two thousand twelve, we rarely saw an adobe reader submission outside of Po to own. Once we reached twenty twelve, there were more than one hundred submissions. Many of those reports were submitted by ZDI researchers overall in internal fines represent about twenty percent of all the cases we process every year bugs effecting Acrobat Fox it and other PDF readers continued to be prevalent but we've also seen the rise of De serialisation bugs and a sharp increase in Scada vulnerabilities. Home Routers have also become a popular target says they can be compromised on mass to be used in botnets and De dos attacks as a result, the ZDI adapted and began accepting. Related. Submissions especially those related to IOT devices. The production of the. The Wassenaar Arrangement. Posed some challenges especially when purchased bug reports from member countries however, we were able to navigate the paperwork needed to transfer cyber arms and stay on the right side of the law. The virtualization category was introduced to pawn to own in twenty sixteen, and since that time we've had several guest to host escapes demonstrated, and of course, we've talked about those on the podcast. The contest celebrated its tenth anniversary in twenty seventeen by acquiring fifty one zero day vulnerabilities over the Three Day contest and twenty nineteen we partnered with Tesla to award a model three to a pair of researchers who exploited the car's infotainment system Zdi. Researchers also demonstrated their own exploit of the infotainment system. The contestants have changed over the years as well in the beginning individual researchers made up the majority of entries but with. Only a few with only a few teams participating at one point. This shifted to most participants being teams sponsored by their employers there have been instances of teams filling bug reports with vendors before the contest in the hopes of killing their competitors exploits in the past couple of years that has shifted back towards individuals and small independent teams, and we've never stopped growing. We hit our peak of fourteen hundred and fifty published advisories in twenty eighteen and were set to eclipse that this year. In fact, we've been recognized as the world's leading Vulnerability Research Organization for the past fifteen years according to according to. A mighty AH, the ZDI was responsible for over half of all measured vulnerability disclosures and twenty nineteen more than any other vendor. And, finally, moving forward, they said over the past fifteen years, we've seen trends in exploit economy, vulnerability marketplace come and go. But through it, all we've been laser focused on one thing making the digital world more secure one. CVA, at the time through the tireless work Zdi researchers and the wider community, we've determined to continue disrupting the vast cybercrime economy and raising the Bar for enterprise software security for the next fifteen years in the on. So anyway interesting walk through the past fifty years. which corresponds with the PODCAST and we've covered all this stuff along the way completely parallel. Very cool. Yeah. So a couple of bits of miscellany. I mentioned that I had finally found a what I consider to be a useful bloat war where remover for windows ten I actually knew about it before and I had forgotten about it and I was reminded of it from up by a tweet for something else this company does and I thought Oh. Yeah. I. Remember Owen Oh anyway there there. Oh, amber sand. Oh. Oh no and The one I like is Owen. Oh App buster if you just Google oh anchor sand. Oh space APP buster. You'll find it from Owen Oh software it's free they have some various commercial offerings. So I think this is sort of a you know a a bit of a loss leader for them. But of all the things I've tried I like this one, the best it. Is Comprehensive it. Let if if if you enable the display of hidden things which you probably should not. Then you are able to to really you know get yourself in trouble but anyway, I just wanted to point our listeners at owing. Oh, apple buster as a it's a nice utility. You don't need to install it. It just runs standalone so you can if you just. Drop it on your desktop. If you make changes, it will create a little companion file outside of itself where it stores those changes but that allow that also allows you to move them around Anyway. I like it a lot and it's what I been using and I will continue to use what I want to. D-, CRAP AFFI-, a new installation of windows ten with. All this ridiculous animated tiles and and Candy Cane. Crap I just. Again I can't believe what what's been done to windows. On a serious note. I've been using something now for about a year that I can honestly say I have fallen in love with. It is a modest program. Called Remote Utilities. Four windows It is paid. And it's a commercial APP. It is. It's a remote control APP I've looked around at all and. And got through a went through a period about a year ago of trying them all the the in my case, the need was that. Lori but my significant other whom you've all heard me mention from time to time we wanted to set her up with the ability to do remote neuro feet remote neuro feedback. What that meant was that she would send out a laptop, a an eeg amplifier and the required eeg electrodes. In that, laptop would be a bunch of software which would provide real time feedback about her clients, some aspects of her clients brain functioning. and. It works like regular you know any sort of Feedback where? You see the exposes something that your brain is doing, and you learn to push it in the direction you're supposed to and you're able to death thus modify the function of your brain works. She's had a whole bunch of interesting. Heartwarming successes. especially with kids but the point is she needed remote access to these laptops she needed to be able to work with the person remotely. Change settings. Basically remote control. I looked at everything and this is what we've been using for the last year and it is such a win. I just wanted to put it on our listeners radar As I said, it's commercial it is not a subscription. Being an old fart myself. I would not consider it if you ha- if it had to pay by the month and everything is turning into a subscription model which just irks me so they have a number of different licenses. To suit enterprise needs if you're just. if you have modest needs, they have A. Free license that will allow you to put the the connection settings for up to ten remote machines in your viewers. Address Book I purchase a license because an fact. Greg, my my own tech support guy. Has a little business on the side. Hell helping his clients. He completely fell in love with it and switched to using it Laurie is. been using it for a year. So how am I it's it's it's not expensive. You can find if there have like. Pricing plans again, you can use free. For Free, you can put ten remote computers under control. There's A. The host APP. is what goes on the remote machine what they call the viewer is used by you that tack in order to get access to the remote machines. You can use their infrastructure in order to knit the machines together. But if that makes you feel uncomfortable, you can also use a self hoped hosted server, which you put somewhere, which allows these things to. Connect to each other through nat. So this all does Nat you know nat routing and and and rendezvous services. There's also an agent which can be used for spontaneous access to remote system without installation you adjust if you some if you immediately needed to get access to remote system, you just send this agent to that person who would run it on their machine, and then you would have access to it with the proper security. PC world in their review of remote utilities wrote for power users there's plenty to like about remote utilities. Several connection modes are offered beyond the full remote desktop experience. There's also file transfer mode, remote device manager, a registry viewer remote webcam access, and a terminal mode, which is excellent excellent way to perform simple command line tasks remotely. There's an MSI configure to create custom host installers for unintended for unattended access or to customize the remote agent module where you can put your own. Company logo and welcome text for a for attended support. It supports power control mode allowing you to remotely restart a PC either a normal or safe mode shut it down lock it put it to sleep active directory support. You can fat you could fetch an active directory tree, add new domain controllers and access active directory workstations and servers with one click. got. Two factor authentication time based token for access for access to specific or every remote. I mean, it just goes on and on all the connections are are not L. S. one point to it that cannot be turned off encryption always on. You can encrypt your address book. In case, the viewers workstation was ever compromised to keep a bad guy from using that to get into the system that you have access to host identity is certification based to ensure you're not yet that you are connecting to the same host that you intend to. some. Sort of spoof. Deploy it in a totally isolated environment over a land where you have direct connection or over the Public Internet, which is why how, for example, Lori and and I use it blank passwords are not allowed there there. No default passwords either I mean, these guys clearly understand security they did everything right? It's got built in protection against brute. Force cracking. Would an excessive number of incorrect password attempts to seen the system automatically begins decreasing the amount of or increasing the amount of time required and will lock out an that is is failing at multiple requests, and of course, there is no ability to brute force. Because most systems are behind nat. So there's no open ports either anyway, it goes on and on. Just called remote utilities. I am in love with it. I wanted to make sure our listeners knew about it. The other thing I wanted to put make sure that I sort of reminded people of I'm still in love with sink dot com but it's limited to synchronizing a single folder tree among one or or while among two or more windows devices. It's perfect for what it does. I'm using it I'm loving it. For for that it's great but. In another aspect of what we needed for for lorries deployment we wanted. A little directory tree that's underneath each of these neuro feedback APP. that are out in each of these deployed laptops and there's twenty of them out at the moment we wanted a little snippet of a directory tree to get synchronized back to the DRO that we have in our location and sink thing. Again it's I mentioned it before I want to just remind people of it I I was asked by somebody in twitter who had a couple of q nap servers, how he how he and his buddy could synchronize them to back each other stuff up and I was reminded of sync thing which just does that perfectly that you can run sing thing on Q. Nap I'm running it all my dro bows you know runs on Mac and windows and Lennox free bsd Solaris and open bsd it's open everything protocol Source. Open? Committee I mean it's it's It's a great tool and it supports a far more flexible. Like, you can get yourself lost you can create something so complex. So I have all of the machines that are out there synchronizing a snippet of of their directory structure back to a a compound directory structure on the drove. Oh, which Lori is able to see some of the folders are one way synchronizing so that for example, logs that are that are external synchronized back to us. Some of them are are the other one way in the other direction so that Lori drops a media file that she wants to go out to everybody. She just drops it in the media folder on the job Oh and the next time everybody connects they get updated automatically. And then some things are bidirectional synchronize so that the most current copy is synchronized anyway sink thing dot net is that and it's it. There's an investment you need because it's Kinda funky the way it works it took a while for me I was going for a while but once you understand the way it works, there's just nothing it can't do in terms of of like options and features and and the the complexity that you're able to maintain and again, all nap penetrating you can open a port if you want, you can allow to you to you too UPNP if you want or you can allow it to use external relay servers. And it will do that as well as you see I ferry happy user for the last five or six months. I didn't know that. I love sing thing because you don't need a third party clouds coverage if you have enough to. them all in fact, after you mentioned sink dot com kind of was looking for other things I tried other third party stuff. Then I found sink thing I said Oh, that's exactly what Steve Needs I've been meaning I mean. FOR SOME TIME But it's really great. All My systems are on it, which is nice. If you have multiple systems because then Yup keep stuff in in sync. Hands on Macintosh piece on it this past Saturday ironically. So you, you know I'm in me and ask you because I really like this idea that each device has its unique identifier plus each folder has its unique identifier and even though I just showed both of those secure because if you. Entered into your same thing, I want to join Leo's W six, M Ucla Nine F. Folder I'd still have to give you permission to do it so it's correct. In that what happens is? If somebody were to grab that and drop it into their sink thing and try to create tr try to create a connection. You a a request on your end would would pop up saying, Hey, somebody. Got Your I d. do you want to allow it but that's also the cool thing is that you can sure easily create a directory and share it with a friend they use that and then you link those two things together. It's just I mean they just nailed. It reminds me of our old friend bittorrent sync except it's done right? It's. It's really it's it's I think it's just exactly and it's open. Source so we don't have to guess what the Protocols Open source air everything is certificate based. That's basically a large fingerprint of the certificate that identify that uniquely identifies that machine but and and and and you're able to do things like say if a new fold if a new sub folder appears or if a machine I'm connected to creates a new folder I, want to automatically grab it and start sinking it or I don't and. Again. There's so many features that you can get yourself a little tangled up but for for a power user it, they nailed it and massively cross platform it runs on every. That's why I use it. It's on my Lennox machines. It's a demon that runs in the background on all of my machines Lennox, MAC and windows I love file version, and you have lots of choices of filed version and I often We'll do it send only. So don't have to worry about sinking deletions you send it send only that's basically a backup it. Change here will be synchronized but nobody else's changes will be synchronized. So it does take a little time to kind of figure it all out but I was. I'm supremely impressed with it I'm glad you agree. Mean to ask you about it. Yeah good. Good good. And it's free. Okay. Yes and free. It's yes. Very, much world world. So. Over the weekend using digits entirely Automated Self Service System I re keyed. All of GRC's certificates ahead of the next Tuesday September first deadline after which search can only have a three hundred and ninety seven day life rather than twice that. And among those that I re keyed was GRC's revoked dot GRC DOT COM Sirte. Which I mentioned last week had expired so that it was being dishonored due to expiration rather than revocation so that for those listeners who had been using the that service and I learned that there were. Five hundred eighty, some a day are going to the revoked dot GRC, dot com page that system is up and running again. So I bought it. I bought myself an extra year before I need to do all of that again but I also realized benefit of having the expiration date of all of my search now. Is. If we're going to be needing to do this annually as I will starting two years from now because from now on certificates after are going to be expiring annually. Doing that certificate renewal work in a single. We'll. We'll at least be much more convenient than being interrupted multiple times per year. You have a new holiday on your calendar, cert- Renewal Day and you just do it every year. Yeah. Now, of course, it is the case that it's only necessary because I'm using lovie sorts. Organization. Validation route as as a class above the DVD search the domain validation, which can be and I recognize this. Fully automated and a lot of a lot of people are just GONNA say okay. Gibson you know I, don't care. I'm just going to use the academy protocol with let's Encrypt and let my server keep itself updated and I and I get it maybe someday that'll happen. But for now I did you know digit cert has made this so simple for me that it's something that I enjoy and all my circuits are now synchronized and I just wanted to mention that revoked DOT GSI DOT com is back up and running again. Oh and one last bit. I meant to mention last week Leo and I know you'll appreciate this that as a result of all the benchmarking rnd we've done we have learned a great deal about SSD's operating in the real world. I Samsung Kingston, OCC VERTEX crucial and others. And what has surprised us? All is the non uniformity that many of them show in their operation. It's not what anyone would expect from something with the seeming purity of solid state memory that their operation was kind of all over the map and varied widely at the five different points where we are benchmarking them the thing I meant to note. was that one single brand stood out from all others? Samsung was by far the most rock solid. And every one of those that we saw followed like there were many of them in represented in the population that had been looked at so far they all followed the governing specifications to the letter which many did not but also the the performance was just solid there. There's favorite verse Yeah Yes really. Love That I just wanted to want to say that I'm sure that ev the gang who were working with me in the spin right dot Dev group all will see their future purchases biased all things being equal toward Samsung because we all were going. Wow. Because I mean, we're all sharing all of our results and is like, whoa. Okay. Let's take. Let's take our last break. I. Have Sipa Coffee, and then we're GonNa talk about a very cool high-tech hack on low tech hardware. I don't know what that is, but it sounds good. Let me. Get our final sponsor queued up here, and we will give Stephen chance to hydrate while I tell you a little bit about something I call. Extra hop well, actually they call it to that too. So it's it's Nice I mean it's it's some synchronicity. Their extra hops an interesting company because they started by doing performance monitoring they put extra hop sensors all over. The network everywhere out there your network clients networks, the cloud networks for performance monitoring. It turns out there's a real benefit to doing that. So not only do you see performance, but you also see. Threats and risks. The new it reality. And it's funny that we should have been talking about this today's remote access right on a massive scale. 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Now, this is a solution that has evolved to really provide exactly what its customers need some of the biggest companies in the world it and you will want to two extra hop dot com. Slash security now now back to Steve. So. We already know. That smartphone cameras now have sufficient resolution. Yes, and our software's become sufficiently clever. That a photo of a traditional house key at a distance can be used to reconstruct a working physical key. Yes and we also know that the vibrations of objects in a distant room we've talked about balloons, a bag of potato chips, light bulb, or even the leaves of plant. Can Be observed optically by laser or similar technology at a distance to reconstruct the acoustic waves those objects are being subjected to to eavesdrop on conversations occurring that. And now. With, the publication of some intriguing new research. Another piece of our traditional perception and assumption of security. has just fallen to the wayside. The research paper which. Documents the detailed and painstaking work by three quite enterprising students in the department of Computer Science at the National University of Singapore bears the title. Listen to your key. Towards. Acoustic. Based physical key inference. Oh no no no. No. Oh my guess. Okay. The abstract of the paper reads physical locks are one of the most prevalent mechanisms for securing objects such as doors. While many of these locks are vulnerable to lock picking. They are still widely used as lock picking requires specific training with tailored instruments and easily raises suspicion. In this paper, we propose spiky. A novel attack that significantly lowers the bar for an attacker as opposed to the lock picking attack. By requiring only the use of a smartphone microphone to infer the shape of the victims key namely bitings or cut depths which form the secret of a key. When a victim inserts his or her key into the lock, the emitted sound is captured by the attackers microphone. spiky leverages the time difference between audible clicks to ultimately infer the biting information I e the shape of the physical key. As a proof of concept, we provide a simulation based on real world recordings and demonstrate a significant reduction in search space for May pool of more than three hundred and thirty thousand keys. To three candidate keys for the most frequent case. Okay. So, in other words Yes Leo. These researchers have shown that just capturing the sound of a traditional physical key being slid into its lock is all that's needed to recreate that key. With a high level of confidence, a nearby smartphone or even the houses nearby. SMART. Doorbell microphone. provides. Audio, which is sufficiently accurate to provide the clues. We all know how a traditional physical lock and key work. Inside the lock are a series of six spring loaded pins. which are each split at a different location along their length. When the proper key is inserted into the lock. The ridges on the key. Pushing against those internal springs positions, each of the pins such that the splits in the pins line up with the edge of the locks cylinder. Thus, no pin prevents the cylinder from then freely rotating the lock. And I suppose. Because, I'm a bit odd. Throughout my lifetime, I have often stopped to appreciate the sheer beauty of that simple invention. Iroquois no power. It is durable and largely weatherproof except in the face of extreme freezing. And it's extremely reliable so much so that its failure is vanishingly infrequent and when it does eventually fail. Typically, after decades of reliable use and wear. It does. So in a fail soft fashion only after providing ample clues that it's need for servicing is becoming cute. So such that jiggling the key in the lock is a long standing name. But mostly, it achieves all this in an example of a brilliant tradeoff. We get all of that in return for accepting that it's not perfect protection. Is it cryptographic Lee secure of course not can it be picked and defeated by anyone skilled in the art with a few simple lock picking tools Yup Are there sufficient combinations that no one else is key will open it. No. A famous hack is just to try locks with keys. They don't belong to sometimes you just get lucky specifically because the universe of all possible combinations comparatively small. But likelihood of any random key working in any random lock is low enough that no one bothers to try. But it's exactly that comparatively small universe possibilities that allows this research to succeed. Wants the audio of a key insertion has been obtained spike's inference software gets to work filtering the signal to extract the comparatively strong metallic cliques as the keys ridges hit the locks pins the click occurs when one of the spring loaded pins crosses over the top of any of the keys ridges I have a picture, a photo diagram from their PDF, which shows that in the instance of the Click occurring on the six pins. They explain as I just did how the lock works mechanically then the event of the Click and I actually I made they had they have a a photo Graham of the audio. and which plays from Google which you can hear Lee you should probably put this into the podcast. It's GRC's shot cut of the week. So it's GRC DOT SC slash seven eight one. And there it is. Of course we've all heard this, but you don't pay any attention to it right and it is. Clear But I guess modern. Phone microphones are good enough. They could pick IT S. Yes so so basically they say as well so Don't do don't do the daily. It's correct. It's just the teeth. The right the bidding now. Okay. So the grooves in the side do create classes of keys which will work in the law right and those do differ from a among brands and within brands. So so that does create subsets. But you can easily there probably aren't that many sets I would exactly there are not. Yeah and so for example, many times your key won't even go in and then if it does then go in but it won't turn. Right Soy the, the the clicks drive the inference analysis. It's the time between the clicks which allows the spiky software which they've developed to Compute the keys Inter Ridge distances. And what locksmiths refer to as the biting depth of those ridges, which is how deeply they cut down into the key shaft and where they plateau out. If, a key were to be inserted at a non constant speed. The analysis would be defeated though the software can compensate for small insertion speed variations. So but if you're like if this freak you out and you are at high risk, you felt, then you could simply start inserting your key at a non constant pace and you would defeat this but given all the available acoustic information complete disembark beauity cannot. Be obtained. So they end up with multiple possible KHIING's in the best case, and this is why the papers abstract noted that this spiky software will output the three most likely key designs to fit the lock that was used in the audio provided by that file, which does reduce the potential search space. As I said from three hundred, thirty thousand, which is is is the universe of possible combinations down to just three. They said when victim inserts a key into the door lock. An attacker walking by records, the sound with a smart phone microphone spiky detects the timing of these clicks from the sound. We then utilize the click timestamps to compute the adjacent interreligious distances given a constant insertion speed. We use the computer distances to infer the relative differences of adjacent Biting Depths, which spiky exploits to ultimately obtain a small subset of candidate keys that includes the victims key code. They said, we detect all click events from the audio recording. They do subject it to a high pass filter to reduce the impact of low frequency ambient noise retaining only frequencies above fifteen kilohertz that contains the information, the acoustic information about the clicks. And they said subsequently, we identified the starting point of each click or its onset in the pre-processed signal by applying change point detection algorithm on short time windows around the computed peaks to account for their millisecond granularity. They said, it finds the least some of standard deviations across to regions that transition from low to high amplitude that is in terms of the the amplitude of the click sound. So they got they did some some serious acoustic processing to just absolutely nail down the time event of the Click. For anyone WHO's interested I've got the PDF link to their research in the paper. It goes onto explain exactly how they convert the click onset timings into a few possible candidate. KHIING's. So, anyway, I just thought you know one more longstanding time honored piece of real world technology has just fallen. No longer insert. Into a lock without the I without the possibility of somebody simply eavesdropping and you could imagine Leo if you had a a telephoto microphone at a distance. Aimed at that lock, and you know if somebody were to insert the key, it would be able to pick it up at a distance with the big parabolic. Mike, and. Capture the sound and that would be enough is then amazing. Isn't that cool estimating. He how doable you think that is. I. Mean I know it's theoretically of course but. I mean they they did it they. They recorded it. They were A. They wrote the software it designed three keys at one of those three open the lock. Isn't that great. I, I just you've got to admire the ingenuity and the cleverness involved. Whether the out say. I could see a big three letter agency using this. We should write this into the next Jason Bourne script or something I. think that'd be so. It would be useful in a situation where the you would be observed picking the lock. Certainly, a three letter agency would have people who can you know pick a lot I can pick a lock. You can lock a of techies know how to do that. It's just you know it's not that difficult but during the process. You're observable. So if you had a scenario where someone posing as at. A cable TV service man or maybe the house cleaner you know needed to just be able to walk up quickly insert the key and enter you'd WANNA be prepped ahead of time, and so this would allow you to produce one of three keys where they could look like they were fumbling for the right key among their key ring. But in fact, they were trying the you know the subset of possibilities and then say oh. Yeah there it is. Wall Street in with. All standing around watching them That's wild. Steve Dented again, I always do it's fascinating stuff and that's why we listen each and every Tuesday to security. Now, you can get Steve's famous spin right? The world's best hard drive maintenance and recovery utility at his website G. R. C. Dot Com version six is out six one is on its way by six today you'll get six one for free and you could participate in the in the building of six point one which is moving apace. That's all GRC DOT com. We also find the show there. 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Episode 2- Jealousy

Drunken Confessions

37:52 min | 1 year ago

Episode 2- Jealousy

"All right. And we're ruling. Hello, everybody in welcome to drunken confessions, episode two. All right. I am your host casts in this is your other host, Amy. Hello. How's everyone today? I'm doing wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone by you that sitting in the room with me. Does anyone else count? Oh. So anyway, so how was your weekend? Oh, it was wonderful. So is just to let everybody know. So avian I took a girl's trip down to Cleveland last weekend. Yes. We did. And we went to go see Eric church in concert. I'm not a country fan, but we went, I'm a huge fan because you know it's what friends do for one. One another right, remember? Right. So we went down there, but you know, symphony little story in mental this, whether you like it or not. So. Amy, I was very hesitant hesitant about doing the show with me breakfast. And then we did our first one, and then you started getting putt. Kissed fever. I guess you could call it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a good explanation. Now. Now, even went from being, like I don't know to now we're book hosting the show. Correct, correct. Our reis. So eighty is taking over quite a lot of actually she's, she's the host of the show now because I started in new job. And by the way, thank you. Thank you. So I have a lettuce studying to do because I have several licenses, I have to get over the time, but anyway, neither here, nor there. But I've been very busy. So you've been helping me out, so. So I'm very excited about this. So our trip to Cleveland was awesome. We went to the really cool place called vault that was such a cool bar. There was my favorite. That was actually my favorite rugged role on the way back was my favorite on Saturday. But the favorite Friday was definitely felt it was really very neat. It was very expensive as expensive as the concert now, expensive is concert, but it was still pretty expensive, but it was a very cool experience being in a basement and an old Banken through volt doors and, yeah, it was, it was pretty awesome. So I highly recommend you guys go down to Cleveland hit the ball. Yes, it's worth at least going there and walking around, and looking at everything if it forced four beers out of five who nice nice very nice. So reading. Yeah. The concert. Unfortunately, the beers were very expensive in Syria give to beers. Here's the most experienced but I wouldn't mind going back down and going to the hall of fame again recommend fan pretty awesome. Every time I know I've been there before, and I saw a lot of different things I've never seen before. So that was really cool. Yeah, I was I just liked it because I'm an eighties girl through and through, and they just inducted the cure into the Brechin Mahal fame, which, I really liked. So that was pretty cool list. So I loved the all the Elvis. These girls. But I did I love the whole Elvis room and I was yeah it was really cool. It was. It was awesome. I wouldn't mind going back actually. So there you guys go if you ever get down to Cleveland. So anyway now. Well, what else is new? I know we did our trip trip together. So what is new with you that I'm not part of? I don't know. Let's see, besides the fact I got new job next weekend will be going to convention. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. I think oh yeah. The other thing DM I always forgot what you almost forget, you addicted to watching game of thrones all of a sudden. So you talked about so much, either head to lake stop being friends with you or watch the show. So I I actually went in purchased HBO now. So I start watching it, and I've been watching it, I am now on episode or season, one episode ten. They do. But now I will tell all of our listeners, we won't get too much into game of thrones because I can't spoil anything can kill you nor do we wanna spoil anything for anybody else. Right. It is very hard for somebody like me who's watched with rose from day, one to not give any spoilers away when she's asking me questions of. Yes, she can't just goes, oh, there was so she goes what did you did? You see what else happened what else have kids anything else 'cause she cheat doesn't remember that far back, not all of it, remember the events. But you don't know what's it chronological order of everything was and yadda, yadda, yadda. So, yes, I'm watching game of thrones. So that's pretty cool. So now welcome to the group. Yeah, thank you. I feel so included. Now, all of a sudden, you know, I'm just like I'm proud of the cool click. Yeah. I'm I'm a possible like everybody else. All of a sudden night. How that goes there now minus said ten people that didn't watch it right? Anymore pretty much pretty much. So, so now what are you drink tonight me? I have shop top MU. Woo shock tap here. And of course, we have our jetted by your, which we ran out of list, the time, we were together. Yes, and that sucked in recently tried a few other alternatives, like hot damn. And then, you know other it just two more. I don't know if anyone out there, you guys have tried Jack Daniels fire, but it is a I don't know once. You go there you just you just can't go back to the dollar cinema once, not in my book. So anyway, click cheers and so eager to shock less than I thought this was funny 'cause I is redwing shot glass, which is very fitting. Go wings and welcome back. Stevie is there you go? And mine is a hell Michigan 'cause, you know, you're from health from now. So cheers cheers. So what I'm curious about put. I'm so savoring this go ahead. I'm curious about what other drinks out there that we have not tried because the tunnel him. No, I know. But you and I are we love going on the beer tours. Yes, that's our thing. Right. And we love going to breweries in doing the flights dragging new beers. Some I hate some you love from Michigan for anyone who's listening to this. It's not around this area Michigan's known for their my Gruber's. Yes. So we've got a plethora of microbrewery. I actually got married in a brewery. You did you did. And that was awesome. Like one of the coolest ceremonies I've ever been to touch base on that in the first episode, I don't remember. Whatever. Dripping I it's one of the facts about me that I just loved that I got married anniversaries. Yeah. I like to bring that up, whenever but what I'm curious about is, what are other drinks that our listeners or barriers. Well, that's where I was going with this. I'm more of a beer drinker or drinker. I look my -cational shots here and there, you know, my Jack my Gaiger once in a while five it all depends on what the mood is. But I'm not a big mixture person. So I would prefer mixed drink over straight liquor. I'm not a big Laker fan except for Jack Daniels fair, this pretty much one of the only ones unless I'm sick if I'm sick and I have like a cold or something really bad soco every time I do shots. So could we now avian? I one time we here's one of our little confessions. So back in the beauty school days, even I both we met in cosmetology school. Yes. We. So one day, we decided. We were gonna go on of us to hear what we do here. Just not just as professionals, professional anybody thinking about doing that only money. Not any who. So. No. It is a good profession. If you're young. And I'm not yes. When you're, you're you less young. No, I'm less young than you. But you're still not young so any. So one day we decided to go have lunch at the spur up the street, we're going to have lunch and then go back to, to school. Well, we started at eleven AM we have lunch, and then we had a couple of drinks and I wasn't feeling good. So I did a soco and then one thing led to another and. Nine o'clock at night. They took our keys from us mill. She tried take her keys from us. I showed her my, my driver's license actually lived two blocks away. She gave him back the only time I've been at a Barney drink like a swear eight hours nine we were actually were there because it got there eleven. We left it like medical at night. It was hilarious. We lunch and dinner there, and it was just so much fun. So they just reminded me of my whole, so 'cause I was really that feeling. Well, so I kept doing shots soco about every two hours. I would do. Oh, sorry. See what I have to put up with people. I would love our listeners to Email us speier's ordering said there. They are. Yeah. It's a message us. So just go on our Facebook and our, our Facebook page is. facebooKcom backslash, my Junkin confessions. My Jong confessions. We're called drugging questions retaking so we have do my drugging or you can Email us at my joking confessions at gmaiLcom either, or, and we're gonna website up and going. Yeah. It's not quite there yet, WordPress, WordPress. All if Amy's never done it. I've never I'm a virgin to WordPress. And I did it but she doesn't like the colors. I picked. All right, and black because those are my colors orange. It's running lab was like it's red in bland kind. It. No, it was red and black because it looked like my motorcycle like Lucy. It did not look like blues looked like loosely. Anyways in great. There's have our discussion off air. Full argument here. Yeah. Yeah. We'll are changing the colors. I'm just saying it was red and black knit look to me. But this. So. The last week we, if you guys to have not listened to episode one, please go back and listen to episode one we were fucking hilarious. I think it was hilarious. But of course, I'm a little bias, so your love bias. Yeah. But go back with episode one we played couple of cool games. It was. Nail polish porn. I named off a bunch of names in tests, headed a tell me if it was a nail polish color or title to a porn, and I think it broke even on that tonight. No, I think you wind I do think you do your porn more than I thought he did. We also had what's in the box to name is bucks. Oh, what was in my dirty blond box. So go back and listen to it. And if you the what's in the box, please go on our Facebook page. We're going to put a link up there for you guys to actually comment, under the link of what's in the box. I'll put a reminder of the clues that I gave it. We might do a gift card. Might might might. But I'm sure we will I have couple of gift cards, actually, but I could like possibly send the people. Yeah. So the other thing we want you guys to make sure you do is go on earthy Spokane Email summary views, but don't be jerks. Yeah. No by all means. If you have a suggestion suggest away, we are open to multiple suggestions in. Also on that track. If you wanna be on her show now last week, I do have till this. Okay. Selassie week we were talking and we were doing it on Thursday. So we said, we're gonna shoot every Thursday will son's then some things have come up, and we have decided Wednesdays are more ideal for us. Yes. So Wednesdays are going to be our shoot days until next week and we change it again. But as. Renault we, it's going to be once as please. Liz, no. We're gonna have some people on the show. We already have a few also willing to work with a guest if they have something if you have something really cool that we want to talk about too, and you guys can only doing their say, I'm willing to change it up. Well for a price, the, the only standard of being a guest. Well, there's two well there's two one, you have to show up an hour early can breathe pre drink with us. Right. And then the other one is you have to choose the night. So every every episode we're gonna end with cheers. And as guest you have to come with a cheers, any of the pre Trich because you cannot do the show sober. It's just not going to happen. And as I said enough game that. As I sent an episode one if you're enough, and you entertain us, we might just pay for your lifter, Uber home and just so everybody knows we are easily amused. Yes, it is. Yeah. Keep giving us Jack Jack fighter our our shops in. Yeah. Keep our expectations low. That's you know, saying there earlier yesterday, I was telling till in front of my, you know, keep your expectations low in you just won't be disappointed. True story, bro troops. Episode. We decided that we were going to talk about the seven deadly sins. We wanted start bringing them into this podcast because, you know, drunk confessions kind of goes along hand in hand and I wasn't familiar with the seven deadly. So I had to it. I mean, at least. What? I heard on idea of most of them, but I did not know all seven I will admit you make Google there. I, I knew them, but I knew them under different ones. Like instead of doing like. C N B. I knew as jealousy, but the steam thing so anyway, we decided that what we're gonna do is over the next several weeks, or even once it doesn't matter. There's so many of you know what else threw me off about their Oklahoma's record. I will. I always it says, I'm Google. It's pride. But I always was told it was being a d really I highs. So the vanity is, is the unity is it. I don't I'm gonna have to watch it again. We're going to watch something I guess it was an awesome movie. And to me of MD, is what you sit at to do your makeup. That's because you're you. And I'm Megan. That's the difference. Sure. Would you go with it? So the eighties Dame is gonna go over this. She can. So I did. I had a Google it. So for anybody out there who does not know what the seven healing have, like thinking. They're, you know, jealousy, V, whatever the fuck you want to say, but go ahead. But this is what Google came up with to educate me. Wicky wasn't it? We Google came to Wiki, and then we went on Wiki. I don't remember we were drinking at the time. Well, that's the story of I know can sats has the podcast. So we had gluttony greed sloth wrath envy, pride and lost. And as I was looking this up. I decided that I had a funny story. So you decide you share this week. It is. But this could be good because Amy is not an she's trying to share. Like I am. I am definitely a share ideal have a lot of. I don't think I ever do. That's even better because, you know, I I'm one of those people were kind of, like yeah. Whatever you want me to tell you that, I'll tell you keep filling up my Jack. Like I haven't even know your like. Just know because I know you can't see this, so we have shot glasses sitting here and I have refilled every time I refill my shot glass, which I drink all the way down. Amy his two sips of hers. Keep like topping off to be responsible. You're, we're at your house. You don't have to be responsible, so we're in today, because it didn't work out because where we show last time, but just to. So everybody knows we do have a studio. We're going to be shooting yet in a couple of weeks. It's already set up. We're just waiting 'til we have other people here because right now we don't have to worry too much about going in studio because it's just us. But in a couple of weeks, we're going to start bringing some of our guests on that, and that will be in an actual studio. It will be. And then we'll be drinking. Absolutely. Because I have the keys to the place and husband. Which my husband will art has already said, he'll drive me there. Pick me up. He may say and hang out and to lift all Uber left. Well, I, I think I still have a credit from this should happen. So what Cleveland we we hit this lift driver. And she just got so lost. And then this other woman's like they was at the never mind. It just the story. Let's just say I got two dollars and fifty cents off my lift that we took on the way back. And she gave me a little credit for my next left, but I don't know how long it's good for which is why I'm willing to lift somebody else home. If they come in. Give us a great story because I have discounts, we go back to migrate story that I was about to tell. I'll just say him injury cow. Just quit hit here before I tell my story are you actually going to finish your plan is, well, will tears? Ship goodness. Thank you. All right now. Amy is going to Joe cutter liquor. Well, I refill our glass. I'm sorry. Guys, you you've just gotta see the spacious waking right now. Anyways, come out your nose. Oh, no. So ABC going gonna tell the story, which is really shocking because Amy doesn't usually say stories because she's like weeds so last week, she's kind of an Ila. Well, my store is know what in the world found chocula. She's my knees. Oregon barrier near your story, but it's still holier. Oh, can I just for one second, you've digressing? No just really quick. So I tell the couple people about my story, they told this week, and they all agreed with you say best a one nightstand. And then, like the intention was there. So guys gone. Listen to my first pockets and let me know if you really think whether or not I was okay saying trying to trying to categorize it as nights. It's not well anyway, so I just wanted to say that other people see you have to let me talk other people were backing you up. Because we. Just up in my mouth, little, all right? So now we're going with Amy story before this gets really nasty with and seven deadly sins. With and seven deadly sins and then goes under gluttony and greed will your cover Intuit one about go up while no so. Gluttony it covers because I was drunk. So I over indulged in okla- hall ingred who really chucker. I know greed. Well, you guys after till the store you will understand why it's great. So back in my candidates as another. Sorry, connecticut. Been drinking. It's okay. Go ahead. Carry on with your story user. You. So that when I was nineteen, I can't was the place to go, and it was when I was younger too, when you were living when you live this close to Detroit. Canada is a hop. Skip a jump one minute drive and nineteen years old hit into bars around here. So he's Majel border. Now, I did different time when I was nineteen need a passport in all that you just need your driver's license and DM when I was nineteen barely needed that. Yeah. Well, I'm joking. I'm not that old. But anyhow, I'm really I'm not gonna come up. I would go to Canada four or five times a week to am. Yeah. And it was me the same front ahead since we were friends since kindergarten and way before I even met my husband. So we go to Canada. I'd always try to she have drivers license, which was the downfall. I know she to this day, she does not have driver's license. How can you and I have no idea. I don't know. But anyway. So we went to hear like we used to think we were hot shit used to. Yep. Well, I'm not. No, I'm not Hasha in the more. I am. I'm getting old, I'm older than you all the luck in years older than you. And I still think much. But that's okay. And gone. So thought we were on the cutest girls, we were in Canada representing the US all the time. And like we always, we always started our night at a Curio bar, and we always saying, ECDC's. Ship me. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, I guess. Said, American thighs. So then we end up at another club. And I can't even remember the name of the club that we used to go to because it was that long ago. But they had a stage and this friend of mine, and I, we were known to be on this stage every Saturday night, they have nowhere. It was not upholding seeing I hate to play actually had pulled people jumping and dancing, but we thought we were we were so young. And so that we, actually we were so hot that we made up our little defense to do on this. Oh you hit the. Oh you hit the. Because we thought we were just like the cats. Now, I'm embarrassed for you to say I know I'm out of my comfort zone. Number one going so all right. So we went to the full deity that we would walk towards each other criss cross each other than walk backwards like moonwalk, while we would walk. SE your house right now. It's just this out there. They can't see this guy that you're showing. Yes, we were walking backwards, my friend fell off the stage in front of the deejay booth. Don't break anything. No. But she was walking backwards. And I was like, wait. And I went to like tell her to stop. She kept walking EM on the floor it right in front of the deejay booth. She fell on her as I was in hysterics. I'm horrible front. And somebody falls, I laugh, listen, it would make funnier is if you're there, Philip glad, no it gets. I'm okay. So she falls if she is completely biggest, however she super hot. So, so many people ran up to her and was like, that people men ran up tour was like you. Okay. Let me buy you a drink while. She, she held off because she's so embarrassed issues like England go to the restroom. So we go to the bathroom. Three at home, and she's like, is there anything on me? Now my juice. She's wearing cream colored peons. I'm wearing blue jeans. Yeah. She always wore. She always dressed up like cream dress, pants black. Dress pee on heels locator. I'm I'm guessing here, and I was always me blue jeans tennis shoes, and keep top. Okay. But she's cream-colored dress pants. And she's like, is there anything on my ass? And I look and I was like, no your girl. Your look all those guys out there one by drink. I'm not ready to leave. Let's go get some Friedrich's. Let's go get the free drinks. Yeah. Yeah. Plus, I'm the driver. I not ready to drive over the border. We always went to the casino afterwards to silver up. Okay. Okay. So I'm like an if I, I knew if I told her what was on her aunt? She would have wanted to leave right then and there, and there was no way, I was driving over the border at that point. Not to mention you have a whole bar full gays. Whiny by you guys drinks, correct. We end our night. We go back out there. We as we go to the casino. We hang out there. We sober up. I go home the next morning, she's blowing up my phone. I answer my phone. She was like there is somebody's puke all over my. She Bill in. The whole time. But you didn't tell her. Yes. In looked like she walked around the rest tonight would puke unrest, put it look like she should or so. Oh. You're like, why am I get more than you Judy? Now. Oh, so that is that is awesome to now. Now, I do believe I know who your friend is. And so I'm wondering if she listens to this podcast as she already know this. Yes, she knows it now. Okay, so she you, okay. I just wanted to know it's like it's like she's gonna find out to this day she Yeltsin. And his booking hysterical. Right now, my job's nineteen years old. I would never do that to you now. Well, first of all, I wouldn't be stage second of all I went fall in puke. Oh, and if I did break something. Just throwing out there. That's my story. I so you know you talk about Canada. So my best friend when I was nineteen and I went to Kim about to. So in like nineteen eighty shut your face. No. A little eighties. So anyway, eight you. So it was in the eighties Bernie with somebody that I went there and drying fund came back. We're driving back, and she was drunk. I know Saka rate, but she was the driver will we're going around curve, and she missed the curve, and hit a wall in her car. Oh, no. And then all of a sudden to drag straight her searing wheel was like a ninety degree angles. She's like I don't even know we were we're gonna have to stop for directions. Unlike now back then Detroit was that. What it is now right back, then, it was like, oh, hell no do not stop over to. And I kept telling her that we are now stopping iffy for directions bitch. Just get back on the freeway. We'll figure this out right? The Moshi could go thirty five miles an hour. We with thirty five miles in, if you can believe this not one cop anybody said anything. Thirty five miles an hour all the way from well. So anyway, I don't even know how we get across the border, but anyway. Yeah, thirty five miles an hour all the way home. So just to tell you, though, then her, and I as we grew up and got married and everything else. So we used to do girls weekends over in Toronto. And she's like, oh my gosh. I all this stuff. I don't wanna go across the border because I hit claim it. They're not gonna get us. She goes USA wealthy. No, we're at now mind, you, we were over there, just shopping, and trial of your older than we were both married stuff like that. So we get up to the border patrol in, you know, maybe in the smartest I am. I know shocker. Right. That's why will never go to another country with you. Yeah. So the guy says we doing over here. I'm like drinking. He goes. Oh, drinking. He goes in today, I'm like, just hung over sir and eastern cracking up in waved us through never even the car or anything. He's I was funny. Socio humor has a place in life, which it's every place in my life because I'm always joking and laughing. You know, me this, this, how idealist life, I'm just the funny person. So anyway. So live your story. This really funny. We have so many did tell me that story. Oh, did I. Yes, you have told me that story before. So I already knew that I Toby. But it the part I don't remember. I knew there was something. But I don't remember what it was because we were probably drinking time that you told me the story. Oh no way. But when I see her next time because I'm going to probably do her hair soon. No, no. You don't do her. Oh, the other one. Oh, I know who it is snacks. Yeah. Okay. Never mind will favor see her. Again, I will comment on that. Yeah, there's, there's many Kim victories. I could tell before Panetta. Well, it is what it is. There's a lot of I don't have very, many stories of my youth. I got married young had kids young yet. Husband when I was twenty at a bar. I'm not make worst husband. I'm of a first husband it was sixteen fifteen fifteen. I knew I would also like our listeners to Email us about. So if you guys have a story that can top mine lying to your friend about leaving puke. I want to hear it. So it looks like you're even less your story of how you lie to your friend for your own benefit. I don't care what the subject is just have to be anything. No. But that's great. But I wanna hear how you lied to one of your best friends great friend for your own benefit. Yeah. One over sun and just a reminder because I don't think we've said this before. If we do not have to say your name. So if you don't want to be called out on our Pat Cash, just put in the subject, title, leave me anonymous, and I will not reveal your name at all just say, a listener, but you wanna know who you are, but I'll means either Email us or just commercial. Oh, yeah. That's fuck it. Yet. Oh, yeah. Well, no way we're under the explicit. We're it'll it'll happen. It'll be okay with me better fucking happen. I do not have a good mouse, when I've been drinking, which is way only drink after hours. So, you know, I gotta tell you, though, this, this show is been so much more fun than I ever thought it could be only because I'm with you. Anyway. So. I really really hope a bunch of you out there do either message us even come on the show. Now, I know this is this going to go across the country, you guys like it. Please share it when our percent. So we're in Michigan. And I know from other people who have other podcasts and stuff like that people come from all over the place to be on the podcast. So by all means if you if you guys want to be on the show, when we know we have a studio, we don't always do this in a studio to you real the two of us, we like to keep a quaint, and we say close to home so we can just. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to worry about. Heck knows bins or Ubers, or lifts, or cars or Doug's or so Amy's really worry because we're over her house tonight. That's the other thing because. You guys don't know this yet, but we are doing this raw. There is like, oh my God. Sorry hitter there. Anyway. Minimum editing. Little to none, because we decided that we need to do this. We want to be real. The only thing I'm going to ever out like episode one completely unedited nothing in there that unedited. So but we do want to start editing an intro song. Eventually, yes, we're gonna get an intro, such up. So if y'all have good sewn that is not copyrighted. And by the way, we like more like trip kinda music for intro 'cause about drinking. So it'd be like a hip hop, party, Kennesaw, yeah. Yeah. Melting griffin. Like create something any country. Any are out there that wanna come up with something funny? One hundred percent. Yes. Email it to us. I, I would love it. I would I would be very low. So, yes. So this way, we don't have that totally give you a shadow yet your own business. Plus, you create music, we'll give you guys a shutout percent. Yeah. We'll have you on account that's just doing these videos right now, in, in down the road rules? Oh, sorry pack cast audio God. We're not doing anybody this time. You know. So, so my said to me, like, do video, I'm like, you know, we don't want to know yet, maybe Dell road, once we've come a little more popular in Selecta. We can definitely switch over to video which I'm okay with because I know I know have video this what I know how to do. So we can do all that and everything else later on. But for right now, we're just doing audio because, you know, the mistakes perp, plus I'm very into this field. So getting a feel for in Amy is learning quickly. I had to do the editing and everything else. So it's just a cool pector. So anyway, now we're getting boring. So anyway, go going back to this is we're trying to edit anything from this podcast because it is drunken conditions in, which we are too, but I want to know what everybody else's deadly cygnus. So we covered. Gluttony and gluttony more gluttony than everything anything else. So we're doing gluttony this week, we can do it again. But next week, I thinking jealousy really. I would love to hear a loss because I'm not gonna ever tell lust. Oh, aki. Give a lot of law. So lead disappointing loss is still do laws. No, it I'm just thinking Email us what do you wanna do? What do you wanna do next week? By the way, you guys don't even have to stick to the seven deadly sins whatsoever. I mean, you just have a good story. Give us a great story, if you wanna be a guest again, hit us up have great story up, and with the reviews if you use notice something that we are missing let us know way. I know you, but holy love. She's still pouring us and he had the players like done. Yes, we just want the feedback we want the feedback. It's episode inter action. Yeah. So let us know and ongoing to leisure close out tonight. Aim is actually gonna close. I have a really cool chair she's. So if you're listening, you have drinking your hand, I want you to raise your last year, last, or is your shuck Lassus, whichever release ticky because I didn't put very well, one of my favorite I like sticky and this all from Frank Sinatra, he said it best when he said, Mr. Zuma's alcohol, maybe man's worst enemy. But the bible says love your enemy. All I love enemy here. Cheers. All right. We hope you guys hold on. Let me shot. Muslim week. All right. We hope you guys enjoyed episode to go back and listen to episode wine and please, stay tuned for episode three we will have out next Saturday released Saturday, so are taping Wednesday releasing Saturday. So if you guys, I want to be on our show hit us up until then have a great drinking party weekend. Keep under him back.

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11 Trivia Questions on Booze and Cocktails

Trivia With Budds

09:50 min | 8 months ago

11 Trivia Questions on Booze and Cocktails

"It's eleven trivia questions on booze and cocktails written by my friend and patron subscriber Ian Schultz. This is trivia with buds. What it be. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out my show in. Thank you for spreading the word about the show by leaving reviews on itunes. If you have the PODCAST APP on your phone and you have a minute. Go in there. Leave a quick review. Let's leave at a star rating. And then you can also type words if you want or you can just do the star rating. It's totally up to you. But that definitely helps get more eyes and ears on the show. So if you have a second to do that while you're locked down on quarantine and you're sitting there on your phone listening to the show maybe on headphones or maybe on a speaker go do that for me. That would be super super super helpful in these crazy times just to get the word out about the show. If there's a certain topic you want me to do on the show at some point you can't always write some questions and send them to me like my Ian did for today's episode on Booze and cocktails. They call that. Potent potables on jeopardy. If you watch a lot of jeopardy and you can also donate five dollars or more on Patriot. Dot Com Slash Trivia with buds and I will come up with Trivia questions based on any topic you want. It could be super unique. It could be very broad and we give you this spreadsheet where you can fill in all the months of the year if you plan on donating that long check out all the different rewards you can get for supporting the show at Patriotair Dot com slash trivia with buds. I am I getting ready to go. Play some more animal crossing. If you guys are into that game I can't shut up about it and my daughter and I play just about every single day when we have a little break the day. She's like animal crossing. Let's do it when we run in there and we see how our towns doing if you want to be friends and visit each other's villages let me know a nice message on social media. You can find me. Ryan Buds. That Games doing really well. It's a sold more copies than a lot of other Nintendo Games on the switch so far. So it's breaking all kinds of records and things all around the world that game at the perfect time where people wanna go on an island getaway digitally and nobody can really go anywhere so very cool game and Adleman switch. I'll put my friend code in the show notes to if you just want to add me instead of sending me your thing. I'll put that in the show notes as well like I said. Today's episode is about eleven questions on booze and cocktails. And we'RE GONNA Those questions from Ian Right now here we go all right. Eleven questions on booze and cocktails and liquor of all kinds. Let's see how much you know about the world drinking question number one Jack Daniels. Whiskey is produced in what city in Tennessee? Question Number One Jack Daniels. Whiskey is produced in what city in Tennessee? Question Number Two. Ironically the county in which Jack Daniels is. Distilled doesn't allow the sale of whiskey or any liquor. What adjective is used to describe such a place question? Number two? What adjective is used to describe such a place number three? A person whose profession is making drinks for people is referred to as a what allergist number three person whose profession is making drinks for people is referred to as a what allergist number three question number four. What very worldly drinks origins are claimed. Either be from a gay community and province town Massachusetts or from Cork and cleaver steakhouse in Minneapolis. Number Four. What very worldly drinks origins are claimed to be from a gay community in province town Massachusetts or from the Cork and cleaver steakhouse in Minneapolis number. Four question number. Five the ROB Roy which is named for an operetta about Scottish outlaw and Folk Hero Rob Roy Macgregor was first created in what upscale hotel in New York City. What upscale New York hotel was that number five question number six? If you have American whiskey Italian Vermouth of Angostura Bidders and American Oh Cherry for garnish. What drink do you have whose name is also the same as a New York City borough number six? What New York? City BOROUGH NAMED DRINK. Is that question number seven. What cocktail made from Cognac? Triple SEC and lemon juice is named. After part of some motorcycles number seven what cocktail made from Cognac? Triple SEC and lemon juice is named. After part of some motorcycles question number eight. The Mint juleps is closely associated. With what American Horse Race Number Eight. The Mint Julep is closely associated with what American Horse Race Question Number? Nine what traditionally green spirit made from wormwood is said to have hallucinogenic effects number nine. What traditionally green spirit are we talking about their number nine two questions left on this boozy quiz number ten allowing it to be coupled in the hand with a top that helps keep aromas in what type of glass is closely associated with the drinking of brandy number ten allowing it to be kept in the hand with a top that helps keep aromas in what type of glass is closely associated with the drinking of. Brandy and question number. Eleven two point. Bonus question prohibition in the US lasted from nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty. Three what two amendments to the Constitution started and ended the prohibition era what were those two amendments great cocktail and liquor related questions from Ian Solti. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. We are back with the answers to our round on booze and drinking and cocktails. Let's see what you've got right and wrong number one Jack Daniels. Whiskey is produced in what city in Tennessee? That's Lynchburg Tennessee. Lynchburg Tennessee question to ironically the county. In which Jack Daniels is to still doesn't allow it to be sold. What is the adjective? That is used to describe such a place that would be dry. A dry county number two question number three eight person whose profession is making people is referred to as a what allergists that would be a mixologist to go to like a fancy nightclub and order some eighteen dollar Martini. That's probably made for you. By mixologist. Number four what very worldly drinks origins are claimed to be from a gay community in Providence Town Massachusetts or from the Corcoran. Cleaver steakhouse in Minneapolis. That would be a cosmopolitan. They drink those on sex. And the city Cosmos Number. Five the ROB Roy which is named for an operetta about Scottish outlaw and Folk Hero Rob Roy Macgregor was first created in. What upscale hotel in New York City that is the Waldorf Astoria the Waldorf Astoria Whiskey Italian? Vermouth a DASH OF ANGOSTURA BIDDERS AND MARRIAGE. She knows cherries for garnish would drink. Do you have whose name is the same as a New York City. Borough that would be a Manhattan Manhattan number seven. What cocktail made from Cognac? Triple SEC and lemon juice is named. After a part of a motorcycle that would be a sidecar number seven aside car number eight. The Mint Julep is closely associated. With what American Horse Race the Kentucky Derby Number Eight the Kentucky Derby number nine what traditionally green spirit made from wormwood is said to have Paluska genetic effects that would be absinthe. They drink some absence green fairy in the movie euro trip. If you remember that movie number ten allowing it to be cupped in the hand with a top that helps keep aromas in. What is that type of glass that you would drink brandy? Out of a snifter a snifter and your two point. Bonus question prohibition in the US lasted from nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty three. What two amendments to the Constitution started and ended the prohibition era that was the eighteenth and twenty first amendments? And there you have it guys a bunch of fun stuff on booze and cocktails from Ian Chelsea. Thanks again Ian for those questions. We've one more question for you. It's called the question of the day and the question of the day is what state does the TV show ozark. Mostly take place in. Tweet me your answer to that. Question at Ryan Buds and social media or e Mail Ryan Bud gmail.com to be eligible for prize. Yesterday's question to answer was will Smith for the star Gem. An and your Trivia team name of today is the world according to Grop a nice reference to Hagerty's half-brother another giant from the world of Harry Potter the world according to Grop. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for watching on Youtube. Thanks for telling a friend. We'll see you tomorrow for more. Trivia with me cheers home

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October 9: Independence day

As It Happens from CBC Radio

49:53 min | 1 year ago

October 9: Independence day

"This is a CBC podcast hello i'm carol off good evening i'm chris boden this as it happens the podcast edition tonight independent offer you can't refuse turkey's president calls it operation peace spring but kurds in syria wouldn't describe today's military a year conservative leader andrea sherr says he'll target asylum seekers who enter at unofficial border crossings the hard stuff dreams are made of after years of work our guest is overjoyed about the new distillery named in honor of an enslaved man called nearest green who taught jack daniels how to make whisky sensitive as peace turkey launched widespread airstrikes today along their border with syria just days after US president donald trump announced he would be pulling american troops talk about the testaments with margaret atwood herself who's an encyclopedia on the subject of aunt lydia as it happens the wednesday edition radio that guesses she's made it axes to grind or bump or scratch basically students in anchorage alaska we'll have to be gentle with the fancy guitars donated has terrorist targets and vows to defeat them solid muslim is a spokesperson for PY d a kurdish political party in northern syria we reached him early from the region abandoning kurdish forces in the process the kurdish lead syrian democratic forces helped the US defeat isis in syria but turkey abuse these forces aww iraqi we don't know the how much casualties we have bus all the villages most of them there were shelled and positions here today in a town on the turkish syrian border mr muslim just how aggressive is this military operation from turkey british PY party says the now have only themselves to rely on resisting the siren song towns and cities across canada have declared a state school board because our guest says they're the equivalent of cadillacs and firsthand knowledge of the second hand made book carol said down on stage of climate emergency but some counselors in calgary insist they've got everything under control and bandon hope all ye who enter here here or pays to evacuate two before this this operation began no relief maybe you cannot say so because most of them so we are hearing that some people civilians were killed and some of them were injured i mean we have to check and confirm the casualties of the shelley the result is not clear yet how many civilians are in those areas that are being bombarded while i don't know because it's villages we're bombarding and isa on some villages around it which is about forty kilometres just south of collapsed incubators around the cities and villages from good SAP which called the till till date eek the but but the shelling is intense as it surely condoms and also the aeroplanes i mean the planes or planes the they don't like to leave their homes and their villages because they know the turkish tactics in offering before it means a partner is it possible that they will turn to syria to the regime of bashar al assad and and find an alliance with his forces refuse at all prepared for this announcement from donald trump that to withdraw these forces u s special forces that were working with you or partnering with you the citizens of comedy show we have big cities maybe more than two million people are around this area was there any time for anyone to evacuate or any is continuing now there is some rhetorician by democratic forces on their positions also but in the defense and in the in the war did did you see it coming at all the people are not such tied i mean with the added idea is that helpful to you at all doesn't mean anything for us because i mean there are shining in there's still in the region but not going to offer any assistance howdy regard that some people have called it a betrayal rebel-serb eternal because the demand between the turkey and the the americans maybe a few weeks ago so there were thrown from this observation points but the rest no no we we don't not expecting to change so easily we are not going to make any deal with have accepting the democracies erie president donald trump says that the united states does not endorse this operation on the part of turkey and that they said this quote from donald trump that this operation is a dating i mean this is should be stopped i think in any way by the american council otherwise we have no choice to resist but as i hi what happened but it's thrown of the i mean americans there was some observation points which was established by the it by sal muslim is a spokesperson for the p. y. d. or the democratic union party a kurdish political party in northern syria we reached him early i mean that might come closer stealing in their basis but you don't you don't you no longer have the US forces with you with the kurds so they've retreated the fighting maybe they don't want their just open the area particular science to invade that's all it's kind of between them if they've just moved with means that turkey will bring their mercenaries and say look look instead of them in their religious so because of that about insisting to stay religious and defend themselves to resist will you at all prepared was it where the kurds and the people in the region he well suddenly the started to shuttle over all the ball we are talking about maybe more than that for him i'm every today there was a call for a debate in the security council by the the france and by UK and the andrew scheer was at rock some road today that is so he has to change his stripes and then you would consider being an ally of his of course of course i should be dialogues with the man avenue exercise democratic rights why would you think you could get that recognition from a man who has waged war against his own people i know we have to fight i mean we are enforced to defend ourselves against isis still i mean does she is not finished if they want to continue on the trust themselves and nobody even i'm in the united states of others as they were partners because of their computers i hope maybe they can stop it but now that the syrian democratic forces no longer have the united states as a military into syria today unquote we've got more on that story on our website at CBC dot CA slash a. h. issue number jim accepts democratic rights why not we tried but they didn't do it and now there was a hope by mr lavrov i mean is trying to mediate eventually what comes yeah so if he succeeded to do it is good i mean but of course the series sheeran regions should accept our democratic rights maybe could even also could be changed but what evidence do you have that angel agreement the new constitution new roles in syria so this is a long approach i mean who did the kurds trust at this point to continue typing ice mr masami will leave it there and i appreciate you speaking with us thank you very much good night gruber the irregular border crossing between the US and quebec the conservative leader was there to call attention to his party's plan to close what they call a loophole in the that's even possible that he hasn't recognized the democratic rights of the people the whole war it came about because of people wanting to protest against the benefit and their interest whenever asked united states to defend us all to to hold the whip on instead of third country agreement between canada and the united states the rules have to be followed and the laws be enforced as prime minister that's exactly what i will do best faster that was conservative leader andrew scheer mireya paquet is concordia university's research chair on the new politics of immigration here in the border town of syria today canada's foreign affairs minister christa freeland said quote canada firmly condemned turkey's military incursion the point of entry on irregular port of entry people can dan claim asylum in canada and i think it's important to i said we will close the loophole in the safe third country agreement we'll also hire two hundred and fifty additional officers at the candidates services at the we will deplore we will deploy more judges of the immigration and refugee board to the hot spots of illegal border crossers so claims can be processed dell's irregular crossings that people use to get around canada's safe third country agreement with the united states what is he talking about and that these people who come over the border in this way are jumping the queue are they 'queue-jumpers there's two things in what you just said right the first is the the border services agency this represents a twenty five percent increase in our inland enforcement operation which will strengthen law enforcement at the border and we reached her in montreal vesovic had andrew scheer says today that he promises to stop what he calls illegal border crossings or what the government off of other people that are claiming refugee status true different means be it true regular processes in canada or abroad it does however include the idea of queue jumping and it's been pretty apparant debt people aren't jumping acute they're entering a different q and so they're not taking a again that it's not because you claim asylum that you are going to be granted refugee status this only provides you a chance to get a hearing potentially into adam aggression in refugee board of canada to hear everybody's story individually and to make a decision based on the material that is provided to them and that's the determination process it varies from situation to situation but their story is a sassy wetter day fit conventions criteria system they go through they go through that process of of of looking at their application and their their case when we talk about the refugees coming other thing that's important to deconstruct about was being talked about today is that this idea that the people that crossed the border do not have necessarily legitimate claim awesome round today i'm pleased that people will be seeing the infrastructure that we've built at wrexham wrote to ensure that every to get into canada or to receive protection we actually do not know that in andrew scheer actually does not know that this is the job of the specialized decision maker surrey hers by day canadian immigration refugee board there's a conservative say and with maxine bernie says that this is a form of queue jumping they get full security screenings they get placed into our immigration system and go through every step of our imigran razer pressure on the determination system the immigration and refugee board of canada which if now incurring several delays in giving decisions that's one of the thing but would stop what he calls the loophole in the safe third country agreement and that is really exactly what you just described fact that if people cross outside of a regular true the border identify or people that are resettled with e. l. of UNHCR other organizations all of these people i have to go through a process the person who crosses our border whether it is regularly or irregularly gets fully post test by our immigration system asian process there are no shortcuts justin trudeau seems proud of his government's handling of the irregular border crossings but under his is a very complex matter because decision makers have to listen to individuals stories and they are faced with a varying degree of you get status and there's a lot of discretion in canada's capacity to make decisions about that so it's not because these people arrive in canada that they are going to be granted right to in cages have been stripping babies out of the arms of their mothers of course they're afraid and they're fleeing what they know is scary situation in the states and so right now the breasts or to make his status determination for one because we need more staff at the immigration and refugee board of canada and that these decision makers has to be higher and that that that mr scherr saying that he would that his priority would be for refugees who really are fleeing some kind of persecution ear the mayor of port moody british columbia rob vagapov took a voluntary leave of absence after he was charged with sexual assault he denies the allegations bruce and they need to make a decision to the best interests of everyone which limited information i just wanna play finally jug meet sing who has his own plans for earlier this israel if it were me i would not be here if i was the caused something so divisive because this this from elsewhere the the the syrians who came others who've come from afghanistan we're talking a resettlement programs aren't they that we run through the united nations and that's not the same thing as these people government there have continued to be long delays in considering refugee and asylum applications why is that the case so it takes months and years to ah safe third country for refugees but how do you think donald trump would respond to canada unilaterally scrapping that safe third country agreement well i think nobody is able to know what trump will react to at any moment right now but having said that i think that is a question that is hard for me to regularly these are people that are fleeing death they're fleeing persecution and in the in the states they're fleeing the fact that mr trump has been putting kids his last week and they've also out they've also implemented several policies that are very hostile in severe towards a newcomer so i don't know if the mechanism of and last month he decided to return to work despite the fact that the legal issue is not yet resolved yesterday port moody counselors passed a motion asking the mayor to take another leave while the case works its way through the courts here's counselor zoe roy a talking about why she voted for mayors at fag raf to step aside for now this would go a long way i think to increase increase fairness but i think it's also important to note that the refugee determination processes research has shown it doesn't they don't replace those coming across the question they do not at all the all these people beat him people that apply within canada people that come the safe third country agreement this is what the dp leader said today i would suspend the agreement by suspending the agreement people would not need to to cross this is not the picture of community of wellness in hot this is not a healthy community picture and sir because the policy of current president of the united states are very inhospitable towards refugees they've cut the resettlement programs the people out of it robert and the person that the accusation i don't know what happened of it there thank you thank you bye-bye mireya paquet is concordia university's research chair on the new politics of immigration we reached her in we shouldn't be politicizing this matter we shouldn't have to do this is about good governance and taking and it's not for us to decide and there are signs there are camps and some people are polarizing camps with political man northern recourse of what's across irregularly that's jagmeet singh the MVP and elizabeth may of the greens also said that the united states should no longer be considered naming the united states which is really what cancelling the agreement would be about would really have any impact on the current president professor cut we will dates and it's crazy and it is so important matt at this time robert continue his leave and then when it is resolved and i pray that it is resolved in a positive way and he returns and resumes his role and when you teach a kid to drive you usually don't put them behind the wheel of a lamborghini at first if you're smart you put that teenager in a us currently i think it's important to once again state at most is here from the liberal leader justin trudeau who said this about andrew shares trip to as we went to air the mayor had said he's taking council's input into consideration the great threat in this city that he needs to be backed today if it's a matter of weeks than its weeks was counselor zoe probably explain he's the guitar teacher for those students and he's in anchorage alaska kyle just first of all it's a picture if we can on the radio of what royer speaking in port moody BC last night the city council there voted four to three to ask the mayor to take another leave of absence but there's no mechanism for them to force the issue smith guitars better known as PR s.'s why are beginner students getting to noodle cords on instruments worth thousands of dollars kyle schweitzer can until you that no political agenda is of such a priority no thing is under seige or understood the honda civic at best well high school students in anchorage alaska are now being handed the musical equivalent of a luxury sports car handmade paul re these instruments look like so in a word how would you describe these guitars in a word i would say they're pretty they're gorgeous has tendencies how did these luxury instruments come to be in your possession the fishing wildlife caught somebody trained get a headstart custom built for USA and that's because about a thirty years ago they disallowed any brazilian rose smuggled them into i think hong kong they met them and confiscated them because everyone of these guitars it's written right on the back cut flamed maple top all the finishes was pretty stunning to see all of them together what was your reaction when you open the boxes and you found that these guitars were inside have pulled the name out of a hat and gave one to one of the band teachers and then they said that's not fair let's do another one and they kept coming from backstage with all these beautiful guitars today deserted by their US allies kurds in syria are immediately targeted by a turkish military operation and a spokesperson with the they also have to be trained a this was a something the government said they were gonna do and if started during tierney we need more of this status and they just kinda let it sit there for thirty years and finally made a bunch of instruments out of it i think they made was five hundred instruments and most of the guitars that we have and i think that it was the look when i opened the box i knew it was gonna be a pure s qatar do what the general shape appearance guitars look like written right on the guitar i'm looking at right now it says custom built for USA so somebody spent fifty grand on on these guitars so i think it'd take him to another country school we have all of these high schools have jazz band and typically in that jazz band they have a kid who is a guitarist and that kid who's in the jazz band class but the ones i'm really familiar with are kind of the lower end chinese lot of guitar and so these ones the first thing we'll pick up your whole that you see the the amount of rosewood on it is actually very small confined to this sort of eight inch thick piece of wood called the fredbord we're just sits on i need tender tars and the school district decided that instead of giving them all to me which is what they should have done actually get one to every would from being harvested built-in guitars because there's just destroying the rainforest has had a bunch of this brazilian rosewood on the shelves of the mortar expensive guitars but my classes have you know twenty thirty kids in them and so this one guitar passed around the room is not really feasible so if i did the first thing that the viewer is gonna see just these are just beautiful guitar and they're also different when we all sit up there on stage and one of them was blue and red if i was allowed to i would sell by twenty electric guitars that were much cheaper really all my kids yeah but but i'm unique i think it really has worked out well typically at a higher level i a little unique in that i have an entire guitar and ukulele program and it was kind of funny when they were giving these all the way they the and sell them at a profit basically okay so your school district got the guitars and so what what are the students think of them the student loan all the band teachers ended up with one of them i was sitting in the audience and the superintendent looked at me and says we don't there's one guy going crazy out we saved the best for last eh carved out in a way that is far more difficult to do i mean there's just a lot more handwork custom purist berkeley so you school district papa of the neck for the fish and wildlife department to say this these are illegal and anyone who shipping than probably knew that right oh yes not so valuable there's three things that are at stake when you buy a high end guitar the first thing is aesthetics these guitars are really great for me with the bad kids like i said that one kid in jazz fan is loved the heck out of this guitar does it make any difference though do you think that his he would sound just the same on another qatar we can transition from no oil base within shut such a short period of time we're for a transition in in in a responsible is it really is the most environmentally responsible oil and gas industry in the world i find it quite know to be honest quite naive that people think it does always over a period of time to work together do you really think that that's what the message is if you do declare a an emergency climate change emergency that saying that we must immediately on the guitar but now kind of like eddie and secondly as economy in alberta in one of the things we're trying to challenge is the misinformation about our oil and gas industry because to look inward and what people should be asking and citizens should be asking is what are you doing is the city to participate in this and what are you doing chilly more histrionic including a number of city councillors in nearby calgary who have made it clear that they have no intention of following suit ward sutherland is the move away from an oil based economy do you think that's what's being said i think as a municipality not sure why we declare knit we need you so much thank you bye bye kyle schweitzer is the guitar and ukulele teacher for the anchorage school district in anchorage alaska kenmore and edmonton have joined the ranks of dozens of other cities nationwide in declaring emergencies at the local level but there are those who feel these historic announcements are or at times call for desperate measures which is why more and more canadian municipalities have opted to call climate change and emergency in the last few weeks the rubber to communities the city we we've had very strict environmental policy and climate change action plan as a city for the last fifteen years which involves everything that the most of the colleagues that i've talked to we will be not doing that why not well two things is we think it's really important to highlight what we do as a compost facility that takes all our compost converts it into a natural fertilizer that goes to the farmers it's difficult to measure it counselor for calgary's ward one councillor settle into will calgary join others and declare climate emergency that's a stance right now they change the massively with the amplifier the actual sound of the guitar is pretty secondary awesome yeah yeah all right we'll let you go but you also give us an excuse to play some really good guitar music which is what we're gonna do okay the use of CO two and we're so for example is our allerton has wind power we just invested in no the thing is most of the sound of these electric guitars is actually coming from the amplifier so i can take that same guitar right i haven't changed anything happening well we've had floods before that's history to the severity yes and we're putting in flood mitigation we're changing uh century events all the time we're having who saw the flooding in calgary in two thousand thirteen you saw the wildfires do you think that's why people in different municipal in terms of climate change that should be the real question so for example as we could declare it and have no climate change policy or action plan what are you trying to hypocritical we do as we supplies the city from buildings to consumption of waste excetera so you know we're we feel we're contributing and we're in the right direction as all of the seal to admission from the city's but it isn't difficult to look at each individual project and how we address it how to reduce the process of upstream mitigation and we're addressing those issues as we go along but do we have to be responsible yes we are are we taking so what are your targets we're not setting targets per se as we're we're setting everything that we do to reduce the consumption it's like oh oh you know what we we lose it all over this phone lines so it's too bad we can't get a better sense of it but anyway really happy that you guys have the guitars and that the kids are getting a chance to you number the amount of gases or where you want to be is to where the temperature the maximum temperature should be how can you have no targets at all and say that you're actually have power and authority doing something to fix a condition that is going to affect their lives so much what you say to those young people i would say algae's like kenmore edmonton or the dozen across the country are putting in climate change emergency plans because they're saying our impact how can you say that you have a robust climate mitigation plan that you're active in this and you don't even have targets for how much you want to reduce the unusable point of view absolutely not what i've said already is our action plan is to do everything we can possible as a municipality get educated get informed with your local government does which are provincial government does and what your federal government does an advocate at the proper level that'll do it just because the other three countries main polluter doesn't mean we shouldn't still be responsible but we also i think internationally that's why i'm talking about deeper coming up with targets with not realistically looking at what's what's available in technology or the size of the city or the financial capacity to do so you're in the middle of the in the right direction given that you are in the heart of the of of oil and gas production in canada being that calgary alberta but calgary is the is the capital of that industry is it is it in fact politically too difficult to actually have climate change emergency in calgary given how many people snowstorm right right now well it's not a snowstorm right now but it just node yes right you have some extreme weather as we all are having we're having we they call me so we're not pressured to do anything we can we can make any decision we want because we're independent counsel sutherland thank you you're very welcome what does the city do not a single person that group could say what the city actually does so that's what i'm saying is it's important that your informed and educated and advocate in action and have a plan and do we change how do everything in the city yes we are do you think climate change is in urgent caused an urgent need do you think it's an emergency in any level the biggest change and if they found that they did that research they find out that calgary doesn't have targets well they can certainly ask but they can also ask what are you have a great day ward sutherland is the city councillor for ward one in calgary that's where we reached him and we have more on this story on our web page at CBC dot c. ooh stain on it when he played long which is kinda like carlos santana play laws i would say depending on what order of government you are and actually to be honest what country are because they're you know the main contributors to you're doing about it so you know for example as i talked to some protesters a few months ago and i asked well you're protesting for the climate and i asked them implied by that industry and how much economy comes from it i for me you know we're all independent we're not part of a party or accounts it does produce a really nice sound do you wanna hear a sample i do yes i wanna hear it over the phone lose a lot of the quality but can you play a big we hear what it sounds active on this low well you know targets are hypothetical what people think they should get at and whether they're going to cheat them or not or two different things i mean different orders of government you know we really need to put pressure on the main polluters what do you say to all the hundreds thousands hundreds of thousands around the world nation with margaret atwood beginning with a question about the striking cover of the testaments which features women's silhouettes rendered in bright green ink is it true longer to hear ms atwood speak to our own carol off about the testaments are long awaited sequel to that nineteen eighty-five classic their conversation was wide ranging hand i will warn you if you're still reading that sequel it contained spoilers all right you've been warned so here's an excerpt from carol's recent conference thirty five years is a long time to wait for answers but margaret atwood's fans have never stops he's had let's do green so we did it's beautiful you've said that the testaments is well thirty five years waiting to find out what happened to offered and to gilead after the handmaid's tale ended a few days ago hundreds of those fans waited in line in charlottetown just a little um hum the problems are china india and united states and that's why we're hearing from the federal conservative you're saying that the big polluters are other countries running out into the streets to say young people especially to and they're looking at us and saying why aren't you why wasn't that generation why aren't those who dance because two hundred and fifty plus years later they're having an academic seminar on so we know it's not still there is no you cannot you want this green thank you can't get it because they made some more but for me or an academic seminar there was a version of this had made it into a theme park around because once period of history is over in either becomes a a battle reenactment a history book a theme park we've been waiting to hear what happened to offer it and you said you had so many questions over these years so many people have questions for you and this became a seminar anyway so so how did gilead end we're told that it did and but we're not told how and the cover design it was light blue and said of great and it was like blue in the book and i looked at it and i thought that looks totalitarian regimes and in several ways as far as i can tell from of reading about them being present when they we're all we're not tight anything and and i'm proud of our oil and gas industry and we're all so proud of the environmental changes in the technology that happened came down because i'm i'm quite old seen the number of them come and go so either they they enter purged on these wonderful promises and and then they start crumbling away or they morph into something else for instance of china's that one anyway so i couldn't have just killed her off not after that it's enough to whack elizabeth moss over the head without killing book you you answer some of what are the questions you answer in the test okay didn't she di no spoiler alert spoiler alert yeah well we we've already kind of i mean the the TV series god not so so the other question that was very much in my mind we we know in the handmaid's tale that gilead one another for men's side or they get attacked from without or combination of both of those things or they fast very cold and i got up my crowns and collard greens it looked much better so i changed the color inside the book so the second generation hasn't had to go through the blood batson purges that the verse generations put itself through have recognized at all for good or ill but it's not the same thing or there's a generational succession well happen in real life and i've been to load of theme parks and battle reenactments i'm really quite fond of them but but but so the people in his hometown of lynchburg tennessee tennessee that bears mr green's name fon weaver has been the driving force behind the nearest green distillery she's the co founder and chief historian of uncle nearest pre rid of those people 'cause there's always those people that they tell us that we have to get rid of and then they don't deliver nathan green was known as uncle nearest he was the first african american master distiller in the united states he was also a slave and a few years ago the DA slash AI h kitchen that they survive long enough they become antiquarian treasures that's margaret atwood speaking with carol at an event in charlottetown p is and so why she can't do anything to its economy to to to reduce it if it's just gonna be filled with by others who does that is that your view as well dylan calls itself the same thing that called itself under chairman mao but it's very far from being the same place it's really something that he wouldn't i about her new novel the testaments and about so much else ecomog brand jack daniels finally recognized his role in helping a young jack daniel learn how to make tennessee whiskey now a distillery has opened in shelby my first raiders said that is way too for over the top you cannot do this even though it might she made of them when we decide that that's enough of that and when they come crashing when they come crashing down and see what happens to them a two week hiatus when they had to halt the printing covers because they renamed but i'll tell you something else about that when we first did pillory that story was always told and so if you went on tour they talked about not only nearest but they would point you to wear his his grandchildren lived and then after every weekend the people foreign and and they'll they'll drive in we've had folks driving ten and a half hours just to be able to do the tour so saying that much passion that after a certain period of time they might get resurrected as sort of kitsch yeah if they survive if they survived they might return you and then the third generation arrives and fails to see the point and we've seen that go on it can be a popular uprising okay i imagine if i put myself in their shoes you kinda run from the story because the story that was being told or that was understood at that time thing is in romania where they pulled down not only charge has to go but all the statues i'm very interested in statues who gets a stout like whiskey from a slave you know i wish i knew that answer what i do know is when jack was alive and when his descendants were alive as they ran the liam whiskey we reached her in los angeles fine what's it like to finally see this distillery open for business oh man it's pretty incredible and do that the entire world ran out of green ink trying to print all the copies of the book is this is this a true story as true so they had a new president of jack daniels that came in and learned very early on into his time as president that this was thanks and so maybe on some history to because he was a slave the time listen to how come we didn't talk about it took so long before the world knew that jack daniel had learned how to all story and he he's called the godfather of tennessee whiskey for a good reason which is the most famous tennessee whiskey maker the world has ever known part of the story of lynchburg was a part of the heritage but jack daniel distillery was purchased by a company in kentucky very long time ago and so if you're in kentucky not back in the mid nineteenth century they all had black slaves as distillers very few of them did not we only know one of their name here in america and the distilleries i can tell you that almost every single bourbon distillery every american whiskey distillery that was making with on record in the united states and so it shines a light on who he was and his incredible legacy but also that we still have a lot of work to do in our american whiskey thread of love honor and respect among them and that the fault of the story being lost was not jack and his family and so once that came forward l. to deliver the promises that they have made at the beginning because they all come in saying they're gonna make everything a lot better if only we broadcast the association with slavery right absolutely what we have done with uncle nearest which i think is is fantastic which is all of these companies are capital chen from people around that country's pretty incredible and what do people learn about nearest green and his legacy with whiskey well they learn about his over turn jack's eldest descendant to run the distillery regular motto passed away in nineteen seventy eight we see the the story disappear after that point do you have a sense of why they suddenly will not suddenly vegas they decided that it was a good thing to let people know yeah i think that it's whenever you have a leadership changeover then i think that they're trepidation they were able to then embrace the story because they recognize the positive one but if you think about slavery negative on social media all of a sudden jack was a slave owner he stole the recipe he had nearest all these different things that were not true so i think we crucify you if you take the time to actually honor those who were at the beginning but i also understand the fear because when this story first came out the story went very america also has to be better about getting the facts of something before we take it automatically to the negative and and i think that will allow for more company jack daniel is the person who taught and he was more recently acknowledged has their first master distiller but he's also the first african american master distiller america is in a place where we can recognize those who are at our route i really do challenge them to bring them forward i mean america's not going to listed by nature they're there to make money it's not altruistic that they're going to go back into the history books and say hey we also had a slave but what they're able to do it whole lives that their relative had taught the jack daniel how to make this whiskey and that it was only very recently that the the company wanted to make it more public web page for more on this story CBC dot CA slash as it happens you've been listening to the as it happens podcast for more CBC podcasts and so and there was this article came out in the new york times twenty sixteen article that and that time we spoke with relatives of nearest green who said they had known the needs to come forth and say hey yeah they're worse lays that helped to build us but i think we both have to make corrections on both sides because if the companies don't know that they can come forward where he taught is jack because his personality would have wanted to see nearest honored and so i think nearest you know both of them are sitting side by side and having looking down the success of of uncle near you look at the success of jack daniels brown form and who owns them continuing to grow after the story came out and say hey guys maybe was not positive it wasn't until i stepped in and began doing the research and interviewing all of his descendants and interviewing jack's descendants that i found this comments the up there has run from this story because because it has its roots at a time with jim crow laws and this would have been the negative publicity for the company if you if you james and the only reason we know near his name is because jack and his family made sure that we did for you kind of look at it and if you're in kentucky where most of this is going on everything in this creation of this of the distillery and the brand you're working with nearest greens descendants right there working at at the distillery with you is that right dot CA slash AH and follow the links to our online archives thanks for listening i'm carol off and i'm chris how do the bye bye bye fon weaver is the co founder and chief historian of uncle nearest premium whisky today we reached her in los angeles and you can head to our both nearest and jax we have we have both at our distillery our our head of administration the person who does all of the blending and cure it i know about him he was such a humble human being they never seemed to care about credit who i think this actually matters to is is his pupil is the person who and now we're doing it again it's just that we're doing it at different distillery what is it near as green was in kabul this i actually don't think nearest with care everything i reject daniel for thirty one years it's a family business that her lineage and so two families when nearest jack relies those families worked side by side waiting for are very popular eighteen eighty four back is great great granddaughter on the other side you have the head of our head of whiskey operations was the head of whiskey operation i show can be heard monday to friday on CBC radio one and on sirius XM following the world at six you can also listen to the whole show on the web this goto CBC suspected cause they're beautiful the second thing would be how well they are playable and of course the third category is really the hardware and the would that goes into these assist i think nurses looking at it and going you guys are really making a big deal over this and jack is sitting there going you guys are not making a big enough deal fun thank you thank you was that not literally be skewered then nobody is going to come forth with it and then

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47: Drinking Buddies: Jack Daniel and Nearest Green

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47: Drinking Buddies: Jack Daniel and Nearest Green

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Hey everyone this is Charlie Herman we know that right now. Everyone is coping with the corona virus. Trying to stay healthy from the team here at brought to you by. We just want to say we're thinking about you and hope that you and your loved ones are safe in these stressful times. When there's so much news we want to thank you for taking a moment and listening to this podcast. Our shows about to go on a short break. As we work on our next season of episodes. But we'll be back very soon so again. Thank you stay safe. And here's the show guys. What they're doing here only happens one to two days out of the week. I'm going to be honest. This is really exciting. Very rarely does a person. Actually get to see this happen. I met the Jack. Daniel's distillery in Lynchburg Tennessee and what I'm watching is a crucial step and why the whiskey that's made here is unique under this. Huge metal put surrounded by four concrete. Pillars is an enormous stack of sugar maple wood and it is on fire. It's GonNa Barn for an hour and a half it's gonNA reach. Temperatures closed eighteen hundred degrees. And when it's done it's natural law. Charcoal that charcoal will be ground up into piece is pieces and then using a process called. Charcoal Mellowing Wall. We're going to do a strip whiskey through charcoal and this is what makes us Tennessee. Whiskey this is GonNa make your whiskey extremely smooth and this is what separates us from Bourbon for more than one hundred and fifty years. Jack Daniels has been making whisky this way going all the way back to the day with Jack Daniels made it himself. Yes he was a real person and Y'all are only listening to me because I have a can of whiskey sitting right there in Tennessee. There's a long tradition of Scotch Irish settlers who turn grains like corn into moonshine but charcoal filtering. Let's not something they were known to do before coming here. So where did Jack Daniel pick that up from? Nearest Green the formerly enslaved man. Who taught him how to make whisky? What nearest green did and what he changed is what we now forever. No Tennessee whiskey from business insider. This is brought to you by giving brands now stories. You don't on Charlie Macdonald Burger Jack. Daniels is the number one selling whiskey in the world. It's been the drink of choice for celebrities and performers Frank Sinatra to Bruce springsteen cowboys and western slug. Back shots and regular folks. Like you and me drink it. I'm partial Jack and coke with every SIP. You can taste caramel and vanilla with hint of sweetness but in each glass there also traces of our nation's history and the ongoing movement to give credit to people who have been left out forgotten as the company Jack. Daniel's acknowledges a truth about its founding one woman is making sure the world knows that story the one about nearest green. The Nation's first African American Master Distiller one seven at a time. Stay with us to understand the story of near screen it starts with knowing more about Jack Daniel and their friendship and the best place to do that is where it all began. Lynchburg Tennessee so I win Jack. Daniels my name is Jed. I'M GONNA be your tour guide and Yeah my mom named me. Je It happens all right. The distillery is nestled among the hills in Tennessee walking horse country about an hour and a half south east of Nashville. Ironically Jack Daniels Dry County. But don't worry they let taste of the whiskey after your tour covering history. I production second and at the very end of the tour. We will be sitting down sipping our top shelf whiskey. You chose wisely all right. It is a huge operation with facilities spread out over two thousand acres. We serve the entire world from this county and only this count. Despite it's size and the enormous amount of whiskey. It sells every year. Jack Daniels is proud of being made according to old fashioned traditions and slowly aged for years before it's considered good enough to drink that spirit yet. It draws hundreds of thousands of Jack Daniels fans to visit each year. We Love Jack Daniels. So we wanted to see where it was made. That is on her back list to come down here in definitely on your bucket list. Yeah just Something that I have to do before we traveled to Nashville for a quick vacation. So this is LS up before flat this afternoon on this tour our Guy Jet has about twenty people including one Pesky podcast host from places like Illinois Iowa Massachusetts Montreal and Ireland. It kicks off in front of a seven story building near the top of the hill. You're looking at a million gallons at Jack inside that one building. Yeah you've arrived guys and eventually winds. Its Way we're going to go walk around the corner. I want to show you buy this property to the opening of a limestone cave that's filled with fresh spring water. It's where Jack Daniels set up his still and started making whisky on the property. Jack was born about five miles south in here. He was born the youngest in eighteen fifty six. When Jack was still a child he became a farmhand for neighbor. Dan Call Call also owned a still along with being a Lutheran preacher and it was on that farm that Jack learned how to make whisky as an adult. He bought the property were. The distillery is today. His one-storey office is still standing and in it. A highlight of the tour. That is the actual safe that killed Jag. One Morning Jack kicked it in. Frustration broke his toe and it later had to be amputated that led to severe complications and eventually his death. Y'All touch Yucca. Duchy guys. Just don't kick it sorry to kill the mayor over the course of an hour and a half. Jed tells us a lot about Jack's life how he was only five foot two how he never married and passed the business on to his nephew and he also mentioned the man who had a big impact on the direction of Jack's life. Now the man who taught Jack to make whisky was Mr Nathan Nearest Green Nathan Green. Or as he's usually called nearest sometimes uncle nearest. Mr Green dirty time in the civil war before Mansa patient was infected enslavement. Over on the call property. Unlike Jack Though less is known about nearest green there aren't vivid stories about his life or the random objects he kicked just the bear details. Here's Nelson Eddy. The distilleries historian the earliest book. Jack Daniels that we have was written in the nineteen sixties and tells the story of Jack and nearest Not only them working together but a friendship that they had that Book Jack Daniels. Legacy was written by journalist who went to Lynchburg to do research interview members of both families. It recounts a story when uncle nearest still. An enslaved man was directed to teach young Jack how to make whiskey and for a long time. This was about the extent of what people knew about nearest. You know the Bible for the Jack Daniels tour was always the legacy book in the Legacy Book It clearly tells the Nearest Greens. Jacking Story. A few years ago however the company realized nearest was not brought up regularly tours and he had largely vanished to the world. Outside of Lynchburg. So Jack Daniels saw an opportunity in twenty sixteen during a one hundred fiftieth anniversary. It was a story we said. Hey we might like to highlight this because not only did near show Jack how to make whisky how to use charcoal to filter out. Impurities working side by side with an enslaved man appears to have had a profound influence on him even after he became a successful businessman. It's something Nelson points to in a photo of an older Jack surrounded by the men who worked at the distillery this was probably taken at the nineteen hundreds in the American South. And at that time it would not have been the custom to seat immediately to the owners right an African American individual. Typically they would be standing at the back but not in this photograph and when that photograph was uncovered. We wondered at the time who the gentlemen might be well The Green family has informed us that that is George Green nearest screens son. To of nearest green sons came to work with Jack when he moved his whiskey still to its current location later. Nearest grandsons would work at the distillery today. Three of his descendants still work at Jack Daniels in fact since its founding in eighteen sixty six. There has always been a member of the Green family working at the Jack. Daniel's distillery this history largely unknown to the world outside of Lynchburg struck a chord with reporter from the New York Times and when his story was published in June two thousand sixteen it featured this image of George Green next to Jack Daniel as there is no confirmed image of nearest green. One woman who read that article was fond. Weaver and that photo Khaderah for the same reason it fascinated Nelson the historian at Jack Daniels. The person in the center is an African American man and it is as if Jack seeded the center of the photo to this African American man and then stood just to the left of him and the question became who was African American man with that question and many more fun new which he had to do. I became fascinated. Some people would say I became obsessed. Whatever you WANNA call it. I became something and I decided to go to Lynchburg Tennessee. Though she had no connection to merest and his family she was determined. No more about him. She was willing to move to Lynchburg up in her entire life. To make sure the world would never again forget nearest green her story and his after the break. We're back in two thousand Sixteen Fon. Weaver was an author and an investor who lived in Los Angeles or drink of choice. Bourbon I e H Taylor to be exact and barrel proof neat that was about the extent of her connection to the industry then she read the story about nearest green and saw the picture of his son and right there she decided she had to go visit this small southern town where she knew no one and really didn't know what she'd find. She wasn't too concerned but her husband was. I mean you know. We're African American. The city's called Lynchburg so he had some pretty major reservations about My fascination with this story and going to Lynchburg but after being there for two days and meeting the people and seeing how not only wonderful they were how they were so open to helping us piece together this story. It completely changed how he viewed when got to town. She headed straight to Jack Daniels and went on several tours. But she said she didn't hear about near screen like his name was even mentioned which she found strange. The company said that news article had planned to recognize him. It turns out however Jack Daniels chose to wait on making any modifications to the tours in the middle of the two thousand sixteen presidential election. That article in the New York Times had proved to be a bit of a lightning Rod. Rations ran from positive to negative. Some people wondered if the company had hidden history of nearest while others questioned. Its accuracy a representative for Jack. Daniels later said it worried about being criticized for trying to gain financially from featuring the story of nearest in the end what Faan saw was that nearest was still missing so she got to work very quickly. She pulled together documents and establish trust among the residents of Lynchburg who it turned out already knew part of the story like Nelson Eddy the historian. Jack Daniels the story of nearest green. Something here in Lynchburg. They've long known mayor. Bonnie Lewis definitely knew anybody that has studied any history of Jack. Daniel knows the nearest greene story and perhaps not surprisingly so did the great great granddaughter of Nearest Green Victoria Butler. Everyone Lynch Park has always now. It was never a secret. The relationship between the grains and the Daniels is never secret in Lynchburg. Was that a revelation to you that. Wait everybody here knows the story already. L. is a complete revelation. So I'm in Lynchburg there to do some research and I'm getting a pedicure of all places and you know everyone talks in the Nail Salon and I'm getting better here and I just asked the woman I tell her what I'm there for and I said when that story came out in the New York Times I mean how did people here react and she looks at us like we all knew the story already so it was like totally not a big deal to us and so. I think that they didn't even recognize how significant this story is to America when the residents of Lynchburg met fan and understood her interest in the story of nearest. And how she wanted to tell it. They wanted to get involved and began actively seeking her out to share documents artifacts and photographs with her in fact it started her first day doing research at the local library. I wasn't even there for two hours before. Jack's eldest descendent comes into the library and before she leaves. I have telephone numbers and information on your screens ascendant. Because they grew up together. They ate around the dinner table together. They were friends so we begin there and then she said you know where he grew up and where the distillery was and where he learned how to make whisky. You realize that's for sale. No I didn't even I wouldn't have even thought the farm was you know that they're still out there. And an hour later her causing calls me and I'm a realtor I hear you WanNa go see the Dan call farm. You ran into my cousin at the library. I can take you up there and that is just the way. These pieces began to fall together. Font and her husband bought that farm and have since restored. It also assembled a team of more than twenty archivists archaeologists genealogists and historians who put in time and work to search for information about nearest green and his family. They did research. At the National Archives and the Library of Congress they examined documents census reports Vaughn also interviewed the family of nearest green and along the way brief honor findings in total. She estimates they've collected more than ten thousand documents and other items about nearest and his family. As well as Jack Daniel Lynchburg and distilleries in Tennessee. The irony of it all and I think this is a part of how I know that the story was just to be told no one ever build me to this day. No one has ever build me on the work that they did to help. This story beyond covered with that information font has been able to piece together more details about nearest Greens. Life including where she believes he was born in the eighteen. Seventy census. There's one page where every single person T in Tennessee for their answer to the question. Where were you born except nearest green? Next to his name it's marked. Md from Maryland. Font also thinks she's narrow down the year he was born eighteen. Twenty however you have to remember. African Americans were property not people until the eighteen sixty five so you have these census takers in eighteen. Seventy that are showing up at the doors and now all of a sudden they're counting African Americans not as property but as people and they're looking at them and saying what's your name and they're telling them their name. How do you spell it? I don't know I don't read right. Okay well how old are you? I don't know I don't have a birth certificate and so there literally looking the senses when it comes to. African Americans is so inaccurate. Because there literally looking at you and trying to tell how old you are. I don't know if you've ever heard the saying the black don't crack but when I look at it and I see an eighteen eighty. They said he sixty I'm thinking he's closer to so I don't know I don't know his age. We WanNA think we know his age but we don't. It's one of several examples that demonstrates how hard it can be to learn about people who had been enslaved. There's often little documentation but when nearest became a freeman there were more records. And that's refund made perhaps her biggest discovery one that even. Jack Daniels did not know nearest was more than teacher. He was Jackson. I Master Distiller and that makes nearest green. The first African American one on record in the United States being the first African American master distiller. I don't think that we should or can take that lightly because there are only so many things that we can give African American credit for during a period of time where we couldn't trademark. We couldn't patent. We have our own inventions and so to find out that there was someone who left this legacy of excellence behind is not small and the least bit font shared her findings with the leadership of Jack Daniels and pretty quickly installed a large display at the visitor center about nearest and his family and it started talking about a more frequently during tours most important in two thousand seventeen. The company officially acknowledged that nearest green was the first master distiller at Jack Daniels. Thanks to tax records fond knows nearest kept making whisky until eighteen. Eighty four but after that. There's a sixteen year gap that she's still trying to piece together. What is a burning question that you have about nearest green? You were still trying to answer whereas Barend got no clue so we believe that we know where he is and his entire family as around the tombstone that we believe is his but the original cemetery records were lost and we're still digging to figure out. Is that him if she can confirm where he's buried. She hopes that will give her another thread to follow about nearest. It's those small details that can lead to big discoveries and it makes a better story to if you know how it ends. It's important here to put the work that Fawn and her team are doing in a broader context because as much as it is about one person nearest green. It's about something bigger giving credit to the contributions by people who've been left out of history. Whatever the reason we have a history and which even though it's filled with words it's not necessarily filled with truth for example the method of making whisky nearest taught. Jack filtering through charcoal. It's now believed came from West Africa. Were charcoal is still used today to purify food and water in other words. The very process that defines Jack Daniels whiskey and Tennessee whiskey. Broadly speaking most likely originated with the people forcibly brought to this country as slaves Tennessee. Whiskey is your first American like truly all American spirit because you are taking what West Africans brought with them. And you're putting it with whites that are here and you're creating a product that is uniquely indigenous to both and I don't know of any other that has done that. This is particularly alive moment in terms of looking at African American history. Jessica Harris is a professor and author and a Food Historian. Who's been studying the food of Africa and what happened to it after it left that continent and arrived in places like the. Us people are being reclaimed. In many ways people are being discovered in many ways. It's a real kind of unearthing and a repositioning of things. I think that's a good thing you can see that legacy here in foods like Okra and watermelon and possibly even seed rice. There are also genetic traces of Africa in Texas longhorn cattle. There's also cooking techniques and the people themselves like Thomas Jefferson Chef and enslave man. Named James Hemmings. Yes that hemmings Sally's brother. James trained as a chef in Paris when Jefferson was the ambassador to France and he returned with Jefferson to the US and kept cooking for him. We all know. Jefferson brought back ice cream. Jefferson brought back macaroni and cheese. What the question is was Jefferson cooking? And that's where James hemmings comes in because of her extensive research and writing harasses the lead curator of an exhibit in New York called African slash American making the nation's table with the Museum of food and drink. It explores the history of African American contributions to agriculture hospitality entrepreneurship and beverages. Hello near screen. It also presents a more complete picture of our nation's history because as Harris puts it African American food is American food and that started with slavery basically African Americans grew the food harvested. The Food Process the Food Cook. The Food Serve. The food cleared the table and emptied the chamber pots. That's about is totally involved in the American food chain as you can be merit is as important as it is to uncover these histories and confronts sometimes difficult truths that does not always mean people will remember Fawn. Weaver worried about that. She feared that simply documenting. The facts about nearest green might not be enough for people to know his story. We have so much history. But how does he get out there? What is the medium so she decided to do with nearest? Did Not do open a whisky distillery. She called it uncle. Nearest a new brand could write an historical wrong by keeping his name on. People's lips for generations to come that story after the break. Welcome back thanks to fond inner team to understand the story of nearest green. You now go to the place where it's being told. Shelbyville Tennessee so I went. We've taken this Hay Barn and we're making First Bottling House. My Guide is Sherry more. The operations manager for uncle nearest premium. Whisky located about an hour. South East of Nashville. So what does this in here? This will be a where we store barrels for single barrel. The distillery is being built on the site of a Tennessee. Walking horse farm spread out over nearly three hundred acres of green pastures are several whitewash stables with green roofs renovating these existing structures and building. New Ones will cost an estimated. Fifty million dollars and be completed in about two years already finished temporary visitor center and the corporate offices. These are four styles so this one was son still lot so I'm trying to get pictures of him but on my wall since that was his home and now it's become a office. Sherry has a long history with whiskey. She's the cousin of the oldest living relative of Jack Daniel. She spent thirty one years working at Jack Daniels including directing whiskey operations. When she retired she became a real estate agent. In fact Sheri's the one who sold that farm to Fawn and her husband. The One were nearest tot jack how to make whisky by the way a picture of that farm houses on the uncle nearest label. Typically when you're in real estate in your showing property to somebody from California they do not buy the farm they get back to California and decide that was a bad idea but they actually bought the farm and great piece of history and they purchase it so I met on their second day. When Fon arrived in Tennessee she was not thinking about selling whiskey. Let alone building a multi-million dollar distillery. She was thinking more along the lines of writing a book about near a screen. And that's still on her to do list but a couple of things happened. That changed her mind as she got to know the people in the community like Sherry and members of the green family. She kept hearing the same thing about making a whiskey with nearest name. On it from Sherry. It was if I ever decided to honor nearest with a bottle she would come out of retirement to make sure I got it right and then learning what come out of retirement mint. Which is. She's the best in the business. Okay so that was in the back of fons mind and then when she spoke to some of nearest descendants and I said what is that one thing you think should happen in order to honor nearest to honor your ancestor. And they said we think his name should be on a bottle then. One day she went to see the movie hidden figures with a few of those family members. I cannot do my work. Effectively acting not have all of the data and all of the information. As soon as it's available I need to be in that room here. What you if you don't know the movie. It's based on the true story of three African American women who played key roles in the Space Program. Font family loved the movie and they saw parallels to the story of nearest green and his relationship with Jack Daniel but about three weeks later when fon was thinking about the movie and what people had been saying to her. It all connected. I realized I could not tell you the name of one person who was a hidden figure. I could tell you Octavia Spencer. I could tell you. Janelle Monet terrar- GP Hinson. I could tell you who played the characters but I could not actually tell you who the people were whose legacy that entire movie was built to tell. And that's when we realized hundred years from now nobody's going to know nearest his name unless it's on a bottle with that realization. She decided to go into the Whiskey business i. She found a source of Tennessee whiskey. She thought good enough to bear the name uncle nearest then in July two thousand seventeen. She launched the brand since then. She's raised the money to finish building the new distillery and has already started making whisky. That will be sold once it finishes aging it's almost as if the entire universe conspired to make sure the story was told and for whatever reason. I was chosen to tell the story I felt very oepration saying it that way but that. It's the only explanation that that I can give. It's also happening very fast already. She's selling three different whiskies. Let's say eighty four on your left which includes leading tastings around the country and each time telling the story of uncle nearest for it is that year is the last year that we actually have records for nearest great already the whiskies are sold in all fifty states and in a dozen countries outside of the US and in the few years since uncle nearest was introduced. The whiskies have won multiple awards. We start off afterwards. Best Tennessee whiskey. Most recently at the world whiskies awards in New York and that goes to uncle nearest on also brought the green family into the whiskey business. In fact the master blender that's the person who decides what the final whiskey will taste like is Victoria Butler one of near descendants. Which one did you blend that? Eight hundred eighty four. And why is it? Eight hundred eighty four. That is the year that we believe near screen last but with skin. A barrel cheers cheers delicious. It's got a lot of sweetness to it for. Sure that now Little it's a little bit nutty is a little like butterscotch. That comes from. The Oak. Victoria spent almost thirty one years working for the federal government before she retired. Thanks to Fawn. She has a second unexpected career though. Perhaps it's not too surprising. Considering her great great grandfather was whiskey really is in my blood and had it not been for this grand being launched a may have never tapped into that. So I'm thrilled to be doing what? I'm doing now to have the honor of being the first African American female to be master blender. A major spirit is huge. And so I don't take lightly and so I I'm loving master blender Victoria Butler her office at the distillery is down the hall from Sherry more. The operations manager and across the hall is Fawns who I might add is the first African American woman to own and run a major spirit brand. Our brand is the first major spirit brand ever to be led by all women I think when we calculated them there were like ten. I there things like me being the first African American on the cover of a major whisky magazine like these types of I you would have thought happened before but no apparently these are years to to break all these records making history in twenty twenty just like an eighteen sixty six when nearest green became Jack. Daniels I master distiller the first African American on record and for that matter the last one for Meijer brand to remember that photo of Jack. Next George Green one of the sons of nearest the photo that sent fond down the unexpected road of creating a whiskey to honor him. The photos on the wall of these photos are all our master distillers. It's now on the wall at the Jack Daniel's distillery. This is where Mr Nathan near screens. Picture belongs to memorialize what nearest accomplished and honor the friendship between him and Jack when the continues to this day among the families visitors can now learn how after emancipation nearest kept working for Jack. How Jack paid him a fair wage based on his skill and how thanks to Vaughn's research we know that nearest when from slavery to becoming the wealthiest African American in Lynchburg potentially wealthier than some of his white neighbors. It's a story that visitors a Jack Daniels or excited to hear. Like Stacey Levine. Ivan Stefan. Oh do you think it's important to tell his part of the story when telling the Jack Daniel's story as well I think this story is probably just as important if not more important because he is the one who happen. Here's the catalyst. And so the fact that he's a former slave just adds to the the greatness of the story. I think it's a story whose time has really come again. Nelson Eddy The historian at Jack Daniels. Out of this really divided. Time comes this story of people working together in this small town in the south. That's really a remarkable story. It's one I think we can be proud of and Jack Daniels we'd like to think that whiskey brings people together. But actually it's people like Jack and nearest could brings together in the four years since I read about nearest green. Her impact has been far reaching for Jack Daniels. Yes but even more for nearest green and his family life that includes establishing a foundation which provides scholarships for his descendants to go to college already. There are twelve recipients. They're also plans to build a memorial park named after him near the Jack. Daniel's distillery what it has done for my family is let the world know who near screen is so fine waiver in my book is a Rockstar. Sometimes it takes a person from the outside to rediscover truths and uncover new ones. That were always there but just needed more attention and today thanks to the creation of uncle. Nearest whiskey near story is one more people will like the here because in the world of whiskey and Bourbon the good story in these important as the actual drink itself especially when it's an important one. It's odd to say it this way but it's a whiskey with a mission behind it and I think that it will continue to be that long long long after. I'm gone every time someone orders Jack. Daniel's Tennessee whiskey. They're helping to keep his memory alive. That's been the case for more than one hundred and fifty years font is creating the same legacy for nearest green everyone. I want to let you know this is the last episode of our. Let's hell it winter season. Thank you so much for listening and just you know. We are already hard at work on several news stories and we'll be back with a full season very shortly but until then be sure to keep an eye out for some bonus content and other stories. We're going to be publishing in the coming weeks. We think you really liked them. Don't forget we love hearing from you. You can reach us in so many different ways. There's the brought to you by facebook group there's email bt. Y BE AT BUSINESS INSIDER DOT com. 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Tennessee Whiskey Relies on Missing Ingredients

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Tennessee Whiskey Relies on Missing Ingredients

"This is scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Dodd Yata all bourbon, whiskey doesn't have to be made in bourbon county Kentucky. But it does have to be produced from at least fifty one percent corn. And it has to be aged in unused charred oak barrels Tennessee, whiskey on the other hand must be made in Tennessee as the name implies. And in addition to the steps that create a bourbon, the distilled whiskey undergoes, another one called the Lincoln county process where you take your fresh whiskey this lie and you filter through sugar maple charcoal. It's also called charcoal mellowing trend. Curly is a graduate student in food science at the university of Tennessee institute of agriculture and just for the record personally, I prefer bourbon whiskey filtration through charcoal made from the wood of the sugar maple tree is known to mellow the flavor of Tennessee whiskeys like Jack Daniels, but the underlying chemistry was a bit. More of a mystery. So curly teamed up with the sugar Lynn's distilling company in Gatlinburg Tennessee to. Put their whiskey to the test. He used gas chromatography coupled with actual human sniffing to identify about three dozen aromatic compounds contributing to the whiskeys flavor profile, he then tracked the quantities of four of them to branch dock halls and two ethyl esters before. And after the Lincoln county process turns out the charcoal stripped out, a third of the branched alcohols in nearly half of the ethyl esters curly's advisor food chemist, John Peterman Afo. Hey, co message is that the branched alcohols and at the last Jewish that we analyzed in this study decreased, and that the distillate was smoother tasting and less harsh after the Lincoln county process. The researchers presented the work at an American Chemical Society meeting in Orlando and the goal. Curly says is to take some of the guesswork out of making great, whiskey, especially when the stakes are high. There was a head to Stiller at one of the big bourbon distilleries who said you really only get two chances to make a fifteen year old with. Munaf again, basically, we're just optimizing the tools to help the distillers get to the flavor profile that they want as for the flavor profile. He wants well. I'm not saying that Tennessee, whiskey is better just is. Thanks for listening for scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Don. Yata?

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The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

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The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

"This is the best moments of the barbecues central show in ten minutes or less ever wish you could listen to your favorite interview or segments. Do you enjoy doing older shows for the first time in years? But by Peirce, moments of the barbecue central trio in ten minutes or less he's just would you need? Thanks for listening and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to this edition of the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less. I'm your host Johnson over and today's edition is being brought to you by the butcher shop. So butcher shop is home of the eight nine master Kobe briskets where they are always handpicked. This father and son team is operated this retail meat market in Pensacola. Florida the past fifteen years Kevin Jordan chip nationwide do the biggest names in barbecue. The numbers get one both sides of the American Role Cook Off Dad happened in two thousand and nineteen. They also ship some of the finest prime dryades trillion Raghu Japanese. Ragu. 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We'll go ahead and we'll start getting into the prep stuff Dennis will start with you. And this is a prep stuff. Pre Cook Events Do you have a particular brand of chicken you're using or do you just go to the big box store the grocery store and Kinda grab? Whatever's her We actually can we actually springer mountain farms? And we find that chickens very consistent. Very nice. And Dan, would you guess? We actually grow our own chickens. A big chicken farm out in back of his house. Now, I'm just kidding we we do have a brand that we prefer I'll shell remained solid on this France. Why you don't WANNA share with everybody. Who It's not like you guys just one your seventh Grand Championship. You're going to the Jack. Daniels this year anything. Yeah, it'd be actually it's not so much as a brand new type of chicken that we prefer to use Oh Dennis. Let me go back to you real quick is the brand new using his like inorganic thing or do not really have anything to do with that. Now. It's totally organic same with families a smart chicken I mean it's organic chicken. So it's a good chicken it's just good product. Dan Is your is your chicken like organic and no hormones or anything like that. Yeah Mon Free Free Range Chicken. All right and then we'll go to Bob. Do you prefer? A particular chicken purveyor that you're going to to to grab your chicken thighs. Are. We prepared the Smart Chicken Smart Chicken. All right. So I've never heard of this March eggs is something that has been around in a lot of the competitors are familiar with that. Well in my area, there's quite a few years and now Harris Teeter did. Carries it but we order directly from the factory and they ship is to be used our. Own Free Organic chicken. Right so I mean I would imagine. Given the time that you guys have had into competition barbecue and Bob Alumnia go back to you just ended with. was there a time when you use some other type of chicken or is it always been this kind? We used to go to Walmart. And Sam's and pick up toxins and They had mike name would get him on grills and use crispin up to skiing. But now we got to work on that dot through skin and these have just snow white skin on them thing and we just we don't have any problem with I buy three. Dan, where are you guys using the local run the military at some point to? we were we we have started with US purdue and and we made the switch and just like your last guest said the thin white skin it makes the difference. And Dennis when you first started were using purdue chicken inner some run of the mill or is it always been the brand that you've been using? Now we just. Snook used for do US Walmart US everywhere we go to to a tree from grocery stores and got tired of it. Would imagine that's a little bit of running around. All. Right. Let me ask just one question here before we go to our first race and then we'll have a long stretch of precooked talk. Dennis will stay with us since you just answered the last question. Have you only ever cooked thighs in competitions or have you ever tried anything else in the past? Actually. Used legs. At one point we used legs anti is we came across. Cooking regular chicken we did cook legs and buys we turn and six legs six ties. And got first place with it It's never happened again. From small chicken nuggets is really good. Is it something that you had tried to replicate after that particular event when you did so well and it just didn't work out for you? To matter finding six legs and six times a the box I would imagine that could be an issue. Dan Is it always been thighs for this is GonNa Rhyme any is it always been for three is No we have tried everything from lollipops to breast the wings and everything. So and then with the Jack up going to have to wait and dark show. and Bob have always used thighs in competition or have you switched from time to time We were you guys except one time and that was last year Jack and we had to cook that breast and boy was that a mistake So. Evidently didn't turn out too well for you but we'll go ahead and let me have you guys refresh your drinks real quick and give me a couple of minutes here read I Boston we'll come back to the rest of the prep. Guys. Appreciate your hang with me through the break here. we'll go back to Dan here with this question, you know when you look at the chicken. Dan and obviously everybody here you know two years ago in the show not everybody had their own stable of private chicken where they were going people were still going to. Sam's Club and all this other stuff. When you're looking at the chicken for the people that just might be looking to get into competition, and if you can hearken back to those days, you know what in particular were you looking for in in those thighs or those legs or those breasts or whatever Voting for now well, either or I guess if you're still looking. Okay I guess when I first started, I used to look for big FIS I felt that big size men juicy me and then I could render it with the fat out better now I actually look very smart guy I look for uniform size I make sure that there's no bruising on the skin that's visible or anything and pieces that that the scheme Ashley covers the whole piece of by. So if I choose to trim it, all have skin there. Dennis What are you looking for in chicken? What do you like? Chicken, we like to see uniform size again. And well, we cook chicken we making look like size we're not trying to make cupcakes. WanNa see chicken they weren't chicken fine that's what they want. Bob You looking for when the chicken comes in. Well we try to get the packs that got the most uniform pieces in it, but we can get them all about the same size. So they look good in the box and the biggest problem we run into some of these chicken producers I think they're using chainsaws to cut up the chicken now so She's right good. and. The pick through that. All right Dennis will go ahead with you. For this question during a normal competition I would imagine at some point it might vary depending on where you're at specifically but on the whole, how many chickens or pieces of chicken are you cooking during a competition? Record. Cook Twenty four or five every week and maybe six to ten minutes just to play with. And how many are eventually making it in a box between six and ten I would imagine. Normally, nine. Not that much. norling nine. Oh normally nine. More. Times than not having that mix in there or is it mostly just size making it? Is I, mean when you're running running right now you don't WanNa take a chance and you're not sure of. A Bob. What about you? How many PC turning it into competition. Attorney in six, but we cook sixteen. And I got my six best ones interning and Dan What about three s? Same Year would generally at six six that we turn in Let's they're exceptionally small just to make the box. Look Nice. But we only about twelve or sixteen pieces. All right. So when you are I, guess this really gets to the heart of preparatory and we'll go back to Dennis for this one. how do you? How do you trim the chicken when you're getting that five and I don't even know if you're really doing any type of processing with the legs but if you are certainly like some insight to there but as far as You're concerned everybody has a little bit different spin on how they're getting their is ready before they go into the cooker how you trimming it up. 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Bourbon and I

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Bourbon and I

"<music> <music> welcome to the kensington quarter. I'm jeff and i am tom today. We have a bourbon and and firearms enthusiast on mike low mike. How are you good. Mike lowy alike that that even even said it right the day we'll because it reminds me. Mike lowry michael lowy sex crazed panther. I like that. Are you gonna let him talk. He's going to be a full-time guess now he's gone. He's with us. I'll take yeah how you doing man good living in a dream. You can't really complain fourth of july tomorrow going to have a nice long weekend and then i italy and then i got to lighten iceland. I got got manny actually likes to really look at fourth of july of ireland tells to be gone for a month. Life's going to be good yet. He gets to reset himself up. Taking care of your dog's. A life uncle jeff has more burps michael catching the bourbon man <hes>. I think it's the biggest thing that kind of like struck me was i watched this documentary on hulu called meet and it's all about bourbon the history of it and it's not like your typical documentary where it's like. You got like devising guys. I clear is it's spike like a lot more involved in it. Just has a way better like premise as far as documentaries go yeah it's not just typical slide show and stuff like eh but it goes into like the history of bourbon and you know why it's why it's so you need like it. Just kinda like struck me. I like that yeah. The american history like it's to me american history. There's so many things so many everyday things that we have that we just completely don't even think about you know like i. I work for the railroad so that's one thing that nobody really pays pays attention to is the railroad. They don't really know. I've just had this conversation. Sorta sorta this conversation but yeah no. I agree with that because it's everyday things that we have in our lives are so wrapped up in the world of today that we don't think about things that we've had for so long that are still here today. Yeah i mean like trysofi people. Don't think about that man daily it but you know flip a century ago on that's that looks like such a big deal you know it's thomas right by these train tracks and i don't currently but when i <hes> before back to kansas live by set of train tracks and louisiana. It's kind of like one of those things like your mind even conditions your do. You detroit tune it out like you. Don't even notice it unless you know you're it's. It's somehow interrupting you like. We we notice it whenever we're shooting the podcast but i mean during the day like as often as like your mind just kinda like just runs right over top of it doesn't even pay attention to the fact if it's there. There's so there's so many things like that too like you. Were kind of alluding to you in the world today that like there's things that make the world go round and like we never even think think about him. You know i think the human mind is just been conditioned for when you look at one hundred years two hundred years ago. There were a certain number of things daily that you knew you had to do and now it's like. I don't think the number of things daily has changed what you have to do but there's so many different variables of what those things could be you know it used to be kind of a you know this was my centrally located life and in the suburbs kind of came up and then driving became thing and then the technology the phone became a thing you you know and then so i think that over time it's just become something that has developed to where we just don't even see you know a when you think about modes modes of travel. The train used to be so important people spend hours at train stations waiting on loved ones to come in and things like that doesn't happen anymore. Those trains were travelling at breakneck speeds fifteen miles per hour yeah. It was revolutionize in the world now. We're like emails at our one of my favorite in. It's definitely not he gets it could be real but helen wills. One of my favorite. Hello is a good show yeah yeah. I love that show and i i just that's one of the ones the first ones were always collie man like such a different life. We talk about that all the time we did. That photo shoot yesterday made it like a nineteen twenties vibe kind of thing we were going for. I i mean life was definitely harder back then but it it was much more simpler. Won't you know it's funny like i don't know why my mind's gone off in this direction and i were talking like i think it was yesterday. We were sitting in the library it. We're talking about like the <hes> <hes> you the immigrants that helped build the railroad the irish and the chinese especially lean yeah i actually i just thought of something and the italians yet wars morris who can forget the noble hard working italian people try you have you ever read <hes> or heard of <hes> but called. I think it's called nothing in the world. <hes> it's <hes> about the building of the transcontinental railroad. It's bias stephen ambrose. He's a really like fame tamous popular historian. He's he's gone now but that's something i remember. My grandmother. Got me that book when i was probably i don't know sixth or seventh grade <unk>. I read that and i was like man. That's that's cool books. You should check that out sometime years in i i yeah i just watch hill woah. Yeah we know you. It's better breaking orgeon any of the action after look i need. I need the real things that happened. After the photo shoot <hes> like we say we went to the bar. Yesterday they had a couple of beers and <hes>. I got home and tom just literally text me what he was watching. Rick and morty us just text. It's me one liners rick and morty. I would just like finally after about the third one i just. I'm i'm ignoring him and i'm going to bed like you know when he when he went to bed to know how they influence you know what else can. We don't know what not to trust moment okay well. I don't think we have many more pump. The brakes just to say you know you know who else you can't trust all yeah. That's true. It's tom's tom's italian bike poor point four percent yeah well so sardinian. <hes> you know he was so agility. Twenty-three me like six months ninety six thousand nine hundred like three months four months ago. Tom was an italian tonight. Kept telling like dude. You're gonna come back. Some like eastern european like zebra. Look you know thing like also all over the place. He comes back like less than half a percents talion mostly cloudy. It's mostly sardinian which i mean. It's it's pretty close to the matty's in the kitchen making a whole bunch of spaghetti. I was doing it all don before. Downs finally gotten a would get away from the italian cuisine moving onto the agent but no i used to you know what tom like. You know talking about his italian. Inherited judges are used to sit there and rip on him. All the time to italians are easy targets they are i knew it was gonna come makes though because my mom's last names mcleans icon new you but it did it came back definitely different. I thought i know i had any like french german. I'm d- i'm a mutt here one of these days. I really should just to see he gets because it's kind of like it was really interesting watching tom's because like you know you have an like you think you have an idea of what your heritage is especially with the in american like you know you can be all over the board rate in it was like you know thompson. I'm home italian and what. What else were you thinking. You're scottish or a new. Oh scottish came back that the mostly scottish and italian at turkey. Oh comes back completely kind of different than he actually thought a lot of french german <hes>. How will you know surnames can be misleading and when i thought of it because of my nose and hairline. I thought i was going to have more serb in me. I didn't have any which was weird food. You're done twenty me. I haven't it's weird. I we're gonna do that right now. Right now should give some hair. It's weird hair and blood they they want your hair and blood and you could just put your toenails in a box eh box. I'll take him no. I it was weird because like that and they give you like all this geological stuff like traits and stuff that you have that stuff has to be trash ashra. It was spot on. I don't know what to tell you. I bet they tell that to everybody. They don't read. I forgot your unique. Tom i am don't they like connect like if you do twenty point through me and somebody else that's in your family trees. Some wear <hes> has done it. They'll they actually like connect. You got like seventeen hundred connections. The job that many yeah actually had a lady message me other danita message her back now. We're talking about this spy trying to use probably trying to send you some fanta john again indus podcast money fifteen dollars a month kidneys american boys kidneys good money fetch good money him nanda to ruin your habits any steroids or alcohol <unk> kabbah by behalf price. Give me that's a fifty eight-year-old kidney easily twice as old again enough bourbon steroid thrown around and it's done all right. Well we get. We get back to bourbon right. What do you wanna taste it. W might mike and we tastes might want to give us a little explanation explanation where you brought though so i brought different expressions of bourbon so i guess i'll do a quick little yoga geico geico ford <unk> take time as you want so people always confused bourbon whiskey and bourbon whiskey was bourbon and what's the difference so again saying that i learned is that all bourbon whiskey not all whiskey bourbon so whiskey by definition is is a grain based <unk> which both our four different <hes> grains that you can use with whiskey is corn rye barley and wheat and whiskey. Is you know it's either rier. Barley is the dominant grain bourbon bourbon is by i law fifty-one percent corn and then it's a mixture the other foreign adversaries mixture of rye barley wheat and so he got different expressions uh-huh you got some out there that are weeded bourbons so they use the video one percent corn and then they use like the like all but ten percent wheat and then arrest barley really like high rise and that in you have like back in the day in order to get like the consistent taste that we have today <unk> jack daniels maker's mark you've had one you've got them all all and the way that they get that consistent taste is they take hundreds of barrels and they mix them together. They blend them together to get that consistent assistant taste of your everyday maker's mark your everyday jack daniels and then you have unique expressions from them and so like <hes> maker's mark or cavs <hes> their cask strength one and then they had their maker's forty six which are unique different than not just the everyday makers more that they have have rent and so i brought to us samples of different brands just so you guys can like tastes. The differences like same same brand same nashville but the way that they barrelled at the age that they with it is completely different tastes so like jack daniels abroad a little the mini bottles of jack daniels seeing taste how it is in that. I brought one of my favorites they have. It's there jack daniel's single barrel barrel errol proof that before it's an egg i have guy at a guy no paso that only drink single barrel on our ed. He loved it. That's a dinner s the twenty-three meteoric don't do twenty-three me. That's right remember this kind of fifty year. Old dudes does twenty-three me three six weeks later whatever they contact him <hes> he he found out he had a thirty three year. Old son never met him before. Oh don't do twenty through threw me. I didn't happen to me sounds good. Yeah yeah just doesn't or she well. I'll be long gone never find me. So what would you say is the i mean. I know we're gonna taste for ourselves. But what would you say the differences like when you taste it between the jacks. No i guess another thing about jack is tennessee whiskey so the difference between tennessee whiskey bourbon is tennessee whiskey. It uses a process called. The lincoln county process so grain wise. It's identical to bourbon. They make it the exact same way. The only difference is linked county process so after they still it they'll filter it through charcoal through a maple basically take maple charcoal and then they filter filter it in that's a science behind that as it filters out any impurities that are within it from distillation and so they filter it through that and then a barreling as the only really difference between bourbon at tennessee whiskey coca and more. I've read in history. Jeff daniels was basically basically the creator of tennessee whiskey which is he. He hated kentucky so he he didn't want to name his whiskey bourbon urban so he named it tennessee whiskey which again is another fantastic with the georgia georgia george. I mean it's chris stapleton song about it. Yeah i mean i'm sure if you're from tennessee. Tennessee whiskey is just like people from kentucky bourbon urban their that's their water. Jesse whiskey is tennessee's water. Well you know i'm from north carolina and until i was a girl i didn't know there was a difference between whiskey and bourbon. I don't think most people people do i think most people whiskey and bourbon and the same thing one hundred percent i actually there's bourbon urban so highly regulated right they they create so many laws to make it bourbon that it's i think that's one of the things that got me into. It was just how unique it truly is in how much how much history it really has an american. Do you <hes> <hes>. Do you follow any of the high end bottles like <hes> abby yes. Do you get into that whole thing or now so because it you know they they go for another what's pappy ten years right age ten years pat so they have a a ten fifteen fifteen any rip rip van in week ten years then and that's the lower lower one of the the age group but <hes> i mean a bottle that if you can get it at mark valley seventy dollars. I saw one go to auction the other day for seven hundred dollars yeah. It's that secondary market yeah. No the distributors get a hold of it and then they margaret up eight million percent and they're just like well. This is hard to get so. I'm gonna make it ten thousand dollars. I don't know that i've ever actually had any of the the the real because a lot of people at bars if they do have it they'll will. It's not the actual they sell off. Is that to to make the shots more expensive or you know the singles or doubles more expensive and usually not so. I'm not sure if i've ever had because a lot of times i've had i've had maybe two or three in nashville and i was like taste just like regular old-fashioned on but so probably wasn't that was always curious. I've never met anyone yet still to like they'll take like they. They do like blind tastings all the time and like just just this year for the san san francisco spirit award <hes> the winner like all around for all the whiskeys in the world was henry mckenna tenure which which has been around for quite some time now yeah it sells for like thirty five forty bucks a bottle and now since they won that now you're seeing it for like ninety eight hundred like i'm a big fan of bourbons from around here though <hes> like. I love tom town in <hes>. What's that one. I had the <hes> from lenexa. Got the train on it. I don't remember i came here. I remember that one note union horse you knew this. I thought that was okay. As far as i can every day. Drinking light reminded me of a less version of larceny but i thought it was pretty good house. Larson is another one. I like for the bang for the buck yeah. That's a taylor sneeze at good yeah bourbon for thirty five forty bucks out on bourbon now. I've always go ahead with. What's your favorite burbano jeffrey. D i mean i won't say i'm really li- i would say i'm a real experience bourbon drinker honestly <hes> but you put out a few though i know i'll i'll make mark <hes> but <hes> i guess i kinda was on a bourbon bandwagon a a few years back and then <hes> and then it kinda got over into scotch for awhile and honestly i don't really drink a whole lot of <hes> ord hard liquor anymore more. Just you know our really don't i like sit bourbon but i i got into bourbon <hes> because of cigars yeah yeah yeah i i <hes> i. We got the cigar lounge in town now but there's like david off bar here like there is like mike nashville and i can just sit and smoke. I would be wasting all your money over there. Artie waste on a new hobby to do but no. I i <hes> i. I think that the recreational use suburban is is what drew me to it like being able to slip in taste and it's funny when you start like actually getting around people who like know about bourbon daylight because i know a zero-percent zero-percent combat i know i know i know very little. I know a little bit but when you get around people who are actual bourbon enthusiast and they're like hey man mm bike like josh was tone different glasses. Oh you like he was a bartender buddy. Yeah like different sipping yeah exactly like different glasses in the way they're formed and he was talking specifically just about beer though but it applies to whiskey and bourbon as well <hes> but different glasses that you have can bring out like different aroma taste and you jeff gnarly. That's cool relax. I mean i know the basics again. I didn't know anything about it. So it's like well then and then you know he started giving us free beer. Cause us like here. Try this and this last tried in this class and i was like kit really tasted different. Better it one more time but you could you could tell the difference. It's crazy yeah. It's <hes> it's absolutely nuts. I've noticed like once you like before before. I really started getting into bourbon like in all tasted the same to me unless it was just completely different. Obviously you know like the jack is gonna be way different the barrel roof right but before i really like acquired the taste for it all tastes the same thing yeah will. I think this is alcohol. That's that's another really good. Point is like a kind of is an acquired taste ray of so like i remember that specifically when i started drinking scotch was like the first time you ever drink scotch. You're like god that's foul right like the it's like p._d. People can't handle the tasted burns but like you go when you have you know a finger scotch every night for a month and all of a sudden you're like stuff pretty tam and that's another one that you can taste <hes> like even <hes> the different labels of johnny walker. What's what's the most is blue or black or whatever the most expensive one is. There's so many biggest bunch of what green lean green red black blues taste yeah you taste the red label and then go taste the blue and your life. I could drink blue all day like this. Is i mean that alcohol is one of the few things where <hes> when you're talking about pure bottles of like the expense stuff that money johnny kind of like when you got one hundred twenty five dollar bottle you got one hundred twenty dollars bottle him when he comes off the shelf like that. There's all kinds. I don't know that it tastes much better that i'll i pay four times as much for it. Though it you gotta make you're gonna make it gonna make it in your head tastes. Better you know yeah you gotta make it worth you. Gotta make it worth it to you. You gotta throw the peaky up you get a squish. That's where it doesn't pay. It hurts be cheap because yes it's good but i think i choke to how this other than take my wife every time every time i get a new bottle that i haven't tried before i will i like because i prefer myburgh with a sphere or cube of a uh you know and to me like that you know they use like the the bigger sphere of vice because it melts lower <hes> so it doesn't water water bourbon down as quickly. I i use the steel cubes. Oh yeah rutta killing the children's stones. That's what i have for. You would heavy. They work man it. Yeah i mean 'cause i don't like i'm not big on need. I like i like what a you know. A block for sphere of ice will do to it as you're like. Each sip is different like it's a completely different flavor every step that you get into me like that's the that's more exciting. That's it's actually an interesting point. I guess i'd never really thought about that that having it be on ice given their you're constantly changing the consistency of what you're drinking just yeah that's <music> in this fierce soup and i got those i got those christmas-time i bought those little molds yes and so i just every time i use one red back. Thomas has gotta everytime bag full of ball bearings handphone throw him in there just every once in a while much allegedy slow go the hospital czar every time i go into bed bath and beyond easily yeah i wouldn't i couldn't i would know dur- between that and hemorrhoids it'd be all right but every time i pass bathroom beyond though those cubes i'm like i need to get one of those christmas tiles yup. No nail it needed got like set of like four of them for like ten bucks. She has from tomba's christmas time. We'll learn what about the places that like have like the put the actual block of ice in the press and they'll you press that into a sphere vice-like those things are also yeah. That's that's. That's an actual like art like they go like. There's it's even like there's even a history just down to ice yup. You know like when i was up in alaska i went. They did that. <hes> that ice museum the hotel you can stay in may like beds is input like for blankets when we get sleep yeah and then like you go and they have like the you drink like an apple they only have apple martinis at this bar too but the glasses made out of ice and they give it to you and you're sitting is bench ice bar. It's it's nuts in the negative. Go in there. Watch like the with chainsaw art do not talking about yesterday that grotesque art that he was doing chiseling away at on campus guy the oh yes but right out right up on campus now i gotta go out there. Just chill ninety five degrees out and he's just getting it but he was just standing there yesterday. Just looked super defeated and i was walking about the only person on any like saw me so he started like oh jeez starts going back at it shippen as i walked by he just like duds because they have like a you can go in there and watch him. Do it and i was like i was in a rush. I was like man. It'd be cool to watch you. Do this. Just lay there yeah yeah it is. The fifth is pretty hard to stay motivated with the weather like is he really wanted me to come in there man. I felt bad for him. I feel like maybe i should go. We'll stop by all you'll be gone. I'll stop by next week to corio edit that out with a corey causes. The train stains trail on the audio sound art sound engineer guy. He calls us train stains. He lays her into trains danger kind of hard to get out but i'd do it all right cool man. Thank you because i'm always worried. I'm always like hey man. We got this this this. We need editing and he's like i gotta do. We're lucky to have of him like literally we were. We'd be like a couple. Monkeys bagging rocks together if it wasn't for you should see me try to do audacity. He's got actual usually just see he's got actual. Whitney should see me trying to do on nasty. It's like watching <hes> was have been steeler trying to get into the computer and other they owen wilson said it's inside inside the computer. We've actually like like might be completely off topic but i was at the gas station the other day and i started singing the song from when they were pouring gas all over each other. I don't know why that made me so happy at all. They got to get out of that so little bit. Let's bring it back. Hop on a bourbon man. Get you some well. I mean yeah okay. We'll we'll look at my mike. Can you please pass the mic. Give me some bourbon start with just a little jack iraq which is probably a jeffrey passes or transit momentum. It's called glen cairn black so it's it's the most efficient as far as <hes> when you're sipping whisky the the shape of it if keeps that aroma until it funds to the top that way you can get all of that aroma when you smell it uh and then when you tasted will that's. That's the other thing too. I think people a lot of people forget you know that your sense of smell is so young lakers liked your since a taste to show you know that's why like they they recommend smelling it before tasting because then it a kind of essential essentially like invigorates your palate to like yet on it. Essentially i always say i love the smell bourbon because it reminds me of love clone yeah. Everything's kind of a little bit yeah. I only just smell like alcohol the you could smell sweet yeah. Uh thanks so like i would wear this like you. Don't tell like i would i would wear this would be. I would bathe in this little luck. I will be wearing leisure luneta visa definitely everywhere yeah. What what would what would you say. Is your favorite daily burbano for at everyday man bourbon <hes>. I probably have to say anything from four roses. Okay what you can pretty much get. I'm a any day i'm. I'm a knob creek guy. Yeah knobkerries solid not way not create did and there's only one bottle left here in town. Knob creek does barrels and a lot of places do they do barrels per town. Lawrence has a knob creek barrel at bomba next door the last one in town and nobody ever drinks it. I i've been going there for two years a a every time i go in there. That's what i had to make it with the. I'm almost positive i'm the only person when you do please do because it's just sitting. There might migrate them. They got a lot of good <hes> of a lot of good japanese whiskies bourbons yeah. We're heading this. They're good they argue. If i mean if you've especially like if you understand japanese culture in how much like care they put into the art of anything <hes> when i was in in the navy my wife and i we were stationed over there. We lived there for three years and i don't think there was a single thing that they did that. They didn't put a hundred percent just pure care and passionate into it didn't matter what it was yeah like like shoveling snow off the sidewalk and they're they're doing anyone like perfect. Patterns and one of the most interesting things in the japanese culture to look at is <hes> the making of catania. Oh yeah oh it's it's insane the way the voting still over the way they do but you don't talk about care in precision like knock. Everything has to be one hundred percent. The thing will break if you hit it on another. You're gonna say the banzai charge wasn't going to say that joe kids whiskey getting to you already. Oh really yeah coming out. Is it coming out. We've got a hyper yeah yeah. You know tom hurting after simple. Whiskey me the one thing i do like about these classes though and maybe this i don't know but i didn't feel any of the burn at all do why didn't it everything felt smooth all the way down which is not an of course. We're not shooting them why shots but even when i sip my mom usually my first two or three ships might take i don't really we don't yet normally <unk> if you're just sit on <unk> icon i guess because i kind of let it mellow in my mouth. Almost you know yeah that's weird. Did ah raising tubs over here laughing his ass off yeah i <hes> i am jeff to let things melanie. What's your middle name girl us. Is your neck pickup line. Abi so devastated of don't worry i will speak it always now. I got a story to tell you right here on air. Just now i was just thinking about this took the trash out earlier or michael appreciate this. <hes> a mutual friend of ours wanted to hook you up with a lady that we know the lady that we know we don't know her but we know okay <hes> <hes> so wary already. I was as well said one. Jesse talked girls. Oh okay we'll tell me who is it you know and she tells me ma'am i don't know who that is and then she's like oh yes. She's works in one of our local staples. You know everything and <hes> and when i figured out who it was i was like no that's not going to happen definitely not just protected sex fan appreciate you not selling me off. The highest bidder paid me out of soda. Outta gave you off so one thing. I wanna see if you guys get the same taste from this next one so gotta when you take it when you take a sip of it. Tell me if you taste peanuts. That's that's one thing i've noticed with. Almost every jack daniels that i've had is very dominant tasting have like peanuts honey roasted. Maybe yeah i don't i. I see what you're talking but it's only here out like a yeah. It's like that initial. Yep got a very cutter yeah right hill. The wherever these you can't tell them we're we're audio for at you're gonna have to describe describe the side to my tongue just like i described the mela wig in my <hes>. The tastes mellowed on the side of my face mellowed but i talk about because it's lingering right now and that's only if he just held a cashier swish it push around teeth through the teeth to the home yeah. I still not really getting it. I don't know maybe just lost his taste buds at the age of five. I forgot how it's just. It's not refined enough. I don't know i get what you're saying. It's a it's. It's just there's not but it's not like a real peanut takes. Its i can tell it's a hint yeah. I can tell hill you're talking about and that's like those are the things like when i when i get a model that i've never had before you know i'll drink here and i'll try to i smell and see what what unique characteristics i can smell. It smells like you know if it smells like you know fruity or florally or things like that trying to kind of isolate. Yes they're very isolate us late and then see you know when i take a sip of if i get those same taste is the smell and you'll pick up almost every time you'll pick up that oakland the office <hes> <hes> and then you'll get either like a like a sugary or you know. Fruity are florally kind of flavor which was up that we just had that was just regular wasn't really go go ahead. I'm sorry <hes> a few things about why a like what makes exactly what makes barbeque bourbon as far as making it so a few the laws they call it the a._b._c.'s of bourbon so a it has to be american made so everything from <hes> <hes> you know the grain to the barrel to you know everything. That's involvement is american made if you have bourbon on the label than it has to be american made you know you can do. You can do everything down to the tea but if you make it in canada you can't call burt. At least you can't sell it. Here is bourbon so they got whiskey yeah so they're just all canadian which is good whiskey and then be is the barrel so the barrel has to be made of you've a charred oak barrel and always has to be an oprah charlie inside of it and if you like if you go go into like a liquor store you see the names on the bottles of you know people's names jeff daniels allies are craig <hes> like larceny old fitzgerald. It's gerald of weller. These are all names of you know obviously people in bourbon industry not necessarily you know distillers that made a the difference but just people in history and one thing i've definitely learned about history is there's always a saying i go by history told by the congress tail so for the most part i think the names on the bottles are mostly asleep legend. You know not necessarily factual history but right. It's the story behind it that really like sales right the bottles right. It's it's marketing essentially yeah and so like elijah craig you know in the early eighteen hundred two of the baptist minister and the legend goes that <hes> he needed somewhere to store his whiskey because you know back in the day when they made corn you know in the days of parliament you whatever calling you had leftover dover didn't feed your family you gave to the king but then coming to america whatever corn you have left over that didn't feed your family you turned into whiskey and so elijah craig over here in early eighteen hundreds and he needed somewhere to store his whiskey on travel right so he had barrels matt that were previously store with fish and pickles and he needed to get that taste out of there so the legend goes that he charged the inside of the barrel and then poured his whiskey in there and after finishing one of his travels had some whisky in just completely blew his mind so that's that's that's one legends of bourbon and widely used the charter oak barrel maccabi drew. I mean it could be yeah. The thing is if you you knew any of my answers you know that they wouldn't wait for their leftover corn to make whisky. It would've made whiskey and hope they had enough corn for the winner yet. That's spare your family to tom. Be honest my family moonshine savage total different same different twenty told total difference up the mountains mountains. What do what do you call them. What you say where i'm from. Where do you guys out here. Yeah appalachia sal appelation. We call it appalachian appalachia tomato tomato tomato tomato whatever i <hes> i always found the tom pendergast prohibition store have you have you looked into that at all always found that i just always found it super industry's especially because they name thom town after him but i when i moved back down here where move not back down here when i moved here i really started getting into the speakeasy scene and there's worn out under the rieger distillery out at a it's called a manifesto and <hes> it's got the whole <hes> al capone pissed here above the urinal and all that but that was like my birth real experience with different types of bourbon different types of cocktails in general but that's when i started getting into into the lore of bourbon and started looking at different things in the mid west has <hes> i mean kentucky if you ask anyone is the bourbon stay and i have a lot of stuff but saint louis and kansas city have like their own in little story soon. It's kinda. Cool might actually get into it start looking at it. Have you been onto western at all. Yes that is a legit place. What's the distillery author mccormick yeah where they made and got that bore. You know the irish bar out. There is like top twenty in the nation the one cave yeah. It's the top twenty hours foursome yeah in words like three stories down. Have you been other. I have not you need. We'll go sometime as a bar in the the restaurant above it. <hes> it's an irish rescue and national business and the down below is just a giant cave and they have a are there. I mean i've heard about it for a bunch of people who've been out too but i've just i've never personally been smells like a frat house. It was the frat house smell like piss and regret the beker fantasy smells like the bigger especially with mike alaska yo they don't go outside for six months at a time and dirty houses horrible women other unspeakable thing. Let's stop talking about that before. Jessica will whiskey and start getting all. I don't get over with all right good. Let me just yeah you keep laughing tom. You're you're the one that'll knock it off the table over there. I'll probably fall down the we started off. Tom's real lightweight actually the option absolutely absolutely because i i am a i call myself continue drinker so after two drinks. I'm trashed right but i can have up to thirty and just keep going. I'll never stop. I can just keep going but two drinks. I'm going to go. I'll be great to p._a.'s love it yeah yeah. Oh yes to be as good to go but then he'll stop. No no no no we could win. We've drink hours on end but i'm a coward drinker late. Ally i start out a pretty steady pace than on like a snowball snowball rolling downhill like an agile that the damn late yet that i just i'm dead. I hummed closet drunk. That's fair. That's that's what i am it. Yeah like evy around drinking and throughout the national athletes are good and then five minutes later around blown all over the place. That's fair. You just said you were good. I throw up in the shower all the time. I gotta find that that's the bad one for me. I literally never throw up yeah <hes> but you get hangovers yeah i. I don't really yeah yeah because i know injuring to the point of spewing. It's it's your fault. Yes a release vault as at real really losing out here. I usually throw out before the delivery you can keep shooting that enable right off your teeth for our last actually pukekohe last tuesday. No no absolutely not absolutely lina one. <hes> do you guys go out to bars very often. You and the wife <hes> not as often as you guys should go <hes> just on a real l. Low key by go check out <hes> call valley public house yeah yeah it's <hes> locus and second row over the bridge so take a if you come in. What do you call it. I got a call at north lawrence so like if you're if you're a mass neo cross the river there it's literally your first right and it's about maybe what a quarter to half mile noun segues that second <hes> yeah so it used to be the call valley the hotel and that's where the train station used to be and so people get off there and then stay at the hotel and <hes> they for a while it was nothing at all and then <hes> <hes> tom they put are there. Mr mcclean put a bar in their nice. It's cool. It was cool place allow dogs. They are really the patio out there. They had some good like novel beers on yeah. Good beers on tap good good but here's a question for you. What's the difference between regular and bonded what is bonded me so my bottle bong and the i guess they have whiskies that they call it bonded whiskey yeah so this is one of my favorite accounts about bourbon right okay so back in the day when they called it rock gut it was like after the civil war you know everybody was getting whiskey business. Because i mean it was a huge money maker everybody wanted and when it comes to bourbon like it it has to age like there's no. There's no getting around it like people. After the civil war were trying to get around the aging process semantics up to two to four years ears for your barely even be ready on time for that so they tried to make a faster so they would add things into the whisky so late add like acids they'd add food coloring sugar things like that and they were adding things that were essentially killing people people just trying to make their money and so the term rodriguez started coming around people are starting to get away from whiskey and there's this guy guy. He's got a firm named after him on the buffalo trace hillary e._h. Taylor so colonel e h taylor he was a banker and he opened up the old taylor distillery in the late eighteen hundreds and this was when you know everybody was trying to stray away away from whissy <unk> killing people and so he he <hes> basically fought four. It's called the bottled in bond act so in eighteen ninety seven they pass the ball bond act and so what that is is is essentially a law where <hes> it. You couldn't have anything added to your bourbon. It had to be made in in one distillery distillery by one distiller during a single distillation cycle and it had to be stored when it was in the barrels in a government bonded warehouse and that way you know after that passed and you went to the liquor store saw a bottle that said baldoni bahn. You knew you were getting what was in that ball. The order you work rugova this year getting food coloring and her acid you're getting whiskey and so that was one of the that was a huge turning point for bourbon in fact i had no no clue about any of that s- let's we're actually trying to get the distiller rome thompson on yeah yeah i've been emailing back and forth them for a uh-huh stock given where plans i don't care you can go. What's he going to start. A podcast. People worried about all these on this this worried about the five five people that might with fog. Nothing don't even air for another month oval gu-guy two thousand downloads already fifty not some subscribing to deal with every day. I'm not just listen to our podcast. Listen a flu. It's unique downloads yeah so it only count your download. You got to man up and that's all the thirty one countries coming in exactly man. How weird is that thirty. I just to tell jeff this all time. Who in the world my own horn wouldn't country not that room in the world in thirty one different countries is like somehow finding this english podcast and being like these weirdo these weirdoes. I think i'll listen to them like we have download in like weird places people when they'd drug do crazy all not nabet like places it like yeah just places as you like. I mean it's not even place. I haven't heard like wolves. Sweden was like one of the first catholic state yeah yeah. Just check this out. We're probably like popular somewhere. We don't even know where popular at north korea. I'm okay with that. They allowed to listen to podcasts there. You get killed. I don't think they're allowed to listen to podcasts north korea. We should <hes> we should run a plane and drop ours out overdrawn joplin c._d.'s out yeah tooth tapes cassette tapes out to let him with him in so i want to go get shot down over north korea labor yet. I i come out of <hes> i think i think i'd be all right. I'll tell you what man i hope you blow the play and you can fly. I'll take mike women. We'll all right here. Pass it all right here. We go again now. I'll take bill with me. I'll take the pilot that'd yeah. I even think of that. Yes a race us we may he thinks he's program. Listen this as soon as he thinks we're going to make a push him out. I can land one myself. You've got to meet bills on time and he's a good guy. Optimal optimal owners guy. He's <hes> he's a pilot it. He's a former <hes> hung record pilot yet. Marinko callers were the calmly like a fighter. Yeah firepower think think like f- okay. He has no no. That's fine i. I couldn't remember what it was called. The pilot was a pilot. No no got you got you and then even then you got utility helicopter pilots versus attack helicopter pilots and then he's fighter pilot that that's a that's a sense of pride. I love ed fire pie thing. He might fight you over. Those words right satellite maverick finds topgun well we t._c. Bill that's the e._s._p._n. Dramas for halloween every year maverick. He read access volleyball seen by himself off. Let's go beach. We're shooting a podcast. Live on west. Go visas year. It's gonna be though there are warm legally allowed to do that. We'll find downey. Whether you're going to jail. Cops kick the door and do so this is daniels single barrel era barrel proof so this is another is in trinidad. Yes your everyday. It's got more of upon intimacy too much higher proof. This is like one hundred thirty three proof compared to jack which is eight this baby's milk but yet so many more like flavors in dead will that and then just <music> nostril <unk>. It does have that verse it. It's they. They always say the net. I always the worst five gasoline kinda just it is a little harsh but it's not as bad as like bacardi one fifty one though which is straight cares yeah. That's you're right right there. It sorry one fifty one hundred cares but i i like this because it had this is tricky because it <hes> when you when it first set your tongue there's a sweet sweet sweet taste rides in and then you get then you get the the burn whatever you wanna call it but there's a sweetness that comes with air so this is a cigar or wisconsin urban rearm and this would go good with anything does get with the churchill because it holds up to the smoke like that the vote cutting <unk> dampens your tastes a little bit and he still get punched laughing and you know they say that everyone has like different like opposite. Everyone does taste but but i teach chocolate when i when i when i drink you know what's funny is like i don't really get sweet taste so much as i mean i definitely definitely a sweet smell right like when it comes to win you get that aroma. I get a very sweet. I almost got more like a in our no. I wouldn't say sour maybe kind of like a tangy taste of the very beginning. I wouldn't necessarily say maybe uh-huh little citrusy but now i don't know that citrusy is the right way to put it not citrusy but like you know what i'm saying. It's just like it's got like a little bit of a sour sour just a lie and not unplug not. I don't mean in an unpleasant way but it's just almost got a little bit of like sourness right at the front end and then it goes right into that really smoky loki kevin fiery. You know tayside off. This is excellent though this is this is excellent. There's some in the thing is it's tuesday. It hasn't my fourth ship now and it still packs a punch. Oh yeah i like that. It's it's he's right though that the first one eight does hit you at the the subsequent ones do hit you but it's like a lot more or less like a lot more pleasant like almost like you've been dumbed a little bit. It's what you would have thought the original jack done that didn't at all it is that's the thing like those everyday brands that you got out there now. The neighbors the jacks there are lower proof because it appeals more to be like these higher proof like you have to have a taste for this. Oh yeah the higher peruvian so to the naked eye like this. This is like oh my god like drinking dazzling but you acquire like when i first started like i started out with you know the jack daniels does the maker marks the the lower proof you know like like ninety and below <hes> and then i started getting into the higher proofs you know the single barrel the barrel improves all those in it's at the point where i prefer those now just because the flavors you have so many more flee. It's yeah it is definitely lot more robust yeah yeah my buddy kirk in el paso that's all he drinks is the single barreled upshot south and now mike it's good you know but even but i agree because when i was uh-huh pasadena left they were announced twenty three when you're twenty two and you're drinking this your <unk> yeah. Give me my regular. What is this bush ashli. Give me back with it. Well back then i was romans were uncle robinson marlboro smooths. That's what my buddy so like. Maat i saw some some friends like you know every once in a while when they go to the bars are like we should do shots. I'm like all right an all bias like tequila whiskey. They're like that. We wanna do shot shots. We wanna do like vegas fall. It's like bro. Come for some reason we always end up meeting. People who buy us tequila shots the shot that is true every time we're at the bar i we don't either. We try to get away from it. You can't turn it no snow especially because yeah we're we're going to go out tomorrow and it will might yeah we'll go tomorrow. We're not gonna make it tonight but <hes> there's a guy out and perry who god gary for listening this. Can i gave you podcast. Don't kill us <hes>. He had a little bit to answer during he can't give away his full story. Why is not a real story. I can definitely tell stories torreon okay so johnny law comes look more well making arrest him a hula. We'll tell the story of geary the fireworks salesman legend from costa costa rica el sell do oh. It's all it sold us wind died before so we're just sitting at the bar jeff storing homework at the you know we're just just hanging out with we're having one of our tuesday night beers and we look over and gary and ted or beside us and gary dale learn heart shirt on cutoff. May my vinci shirt that she okay. I might have made up that neil earnhardtford but that sounds way better. That's our topic loses his book he will be at ehler will be to dale earnhardt include this thing by it'll have pack of winstons on the front too yeah we atma marlborough lights members more ba- lights he was he was spoken lights not cowboy killers yeah i knew he wouldn't address disappointing and <hes> <hes> he's talking to us about something and then he goes yeah. You know i'm selling fireworks over here. I'm making off in two weeks to live in costa rica for years it cool and he goes. I got me a twenty twenty five year old girlfriend up in the mountains and got one on the coast and stuff okay cool you know and then he goes to the bathroom he comes back. He looks right at jeff and he goes how aw yama druglord yep. I'm audie came after bathrooms that who will feel that's could be might have done that bore yourself but he goes he goes goes. I'm not like a big balls or anything but you know kill people were like what is happening and we know he's full of shit and then ted beside yes i of m is a half million on a half a million dollar yacht but so there were sitting there and their bills come and they were on the same tavern even had to be split. You know eighty and you think that anybody with million dollars they i mean jeff and i picked up each other's tabs all the time. They're gonna care. They're like a it's a hundred hundred sixty four split eighty-two whatever i may both look at each other like you you can pay for it or like these shit we were about falling on the floor allowed but <hes> yeah it was it was something else. Let's just for the people we need just yet. You know you think about the the the math behind that right like it's three dollar beers at l. v. c. on tuesday flake how many shots those guys by it is three dollar beers shots five apiece and if you bought them for seven yeah that's true adds up to shots. You just got your task seventy bucks what shot two orders of yachts absurd to order today guys tab so even if they bought seventy dollars worth of shots that still means they had they ordered thirty beers. No there tapper eighty dollars piece a piece of rubber getting like one or two rounds and he'll show. I'm saying it so thirty five plus thirty five seventy seventy so that means there too had for beers. It was eighty two piece. Okay well seventy dollars in shots twelve dollars. Tab was eighty bucks a hotel one hundred sixty eighty two lots around saying oh satellite eight. Let's give the shot eighty dollars worth of beers on there. I don't know we're trying to do matthau on the show. It's just not working. He looks like he doesn't matter yeah. I think he had any math to be in the navy airforce. I thought like you said navy yes. It's air force does math oh gotcha. Yes yeah yeah. What did you do in the navy. I was a weapons inspectors and of course she were so. I'm built bombs. Of course you did. Mom and loaded loaded the guns on the jets. I'm okay with who gave yet called his bombs in except there was not <hes> high demand for that and civilian world figure out. I'm like i was afforded. Real big civilian mortgage ford observers either thomas waiting for the civil war to kick off. That's all i'm tough you get it. I'll be coming back. She had <hes> this good this. That is really good like nobody of all of that for tomorrow so you can get that they got it everyday. Ah corporate meryl yoga twenty-third the number one well right by my place right next to the gym right next to the gym that we have gone onto and been there like three times the last month you know life will put me out man. Let's see we got next. Tom's role now four roses and this is your favorite my favorite every day that i can get a hold of sporting needed to go to the liquor store tomorrow. We'll be there. What is your favorite ever <hes> allocates. That's what they call. The heart define mervyn's is allocated <hes> it has to be between a <hes> weller one oh seven or e. h. Taylor small batch hookah. I had i had that the other day we went to char- you can't yup yep we went there and they have they have phenomenal wissies election and we got there and my wife's <unk> made with everyone in your life and i'm just like oh cool and she's like you're not getting any then besides like cheap one and i was like oh. This is your budget honey. He's like don't go over twenty dollars leaf. They've got pappy there in it's one hard five dollars and poor and i'm just like i mean it's crazy as benico gay tom two years ago by a whole bottle. That's true. I gotta be careful the problem i'm serious. I was on <hes>. What's that what's that website. I've known sometimes read on brennan looking at the bourbon <hes> on the bourbon enthusiast blow thing things all the time were like oh yeah it was at this auction in new york in this bottle of pappy went for twelve hundred god bless. It's it's funny 'cause the pappy twenty-three years like the most highly sought after baroness faces right and it retails like one hundred fifty bucks but people people are selling for a hundred bucks a poor yet pappy ten years only sixty dollars like yeah and keyboards. Don't learn not not expensive like it's just because of the eh because of major may as it you know so this is four roses single barrel okay so single barrel. The self explanatory came from one barrel a smooth so you're saying your everyday your everyday was you've had had one. You've had the other the writer about gay right and that's because they they blend them all together. All the barrels together to get that consistent so in like the sixties and seventies the bourbon industry was dead like there were distillery shutting down with full barrels in their warehouse just aging and nobody want everybody was going to the vodka aucas and stuff because that was where you know that was the hyphen l. those beat mix lose. Jan wanted the genes in the body of and more vodkas dina. There was a time time when john was like the number one alcohol in the united states how cra that's crazy to me and it was i'm pre- i'm pretty sure it was actually seagram's at one while c._d.-roms wave it one of the largest was like they owned the whiskey like every industry they own the entire market for alcohol at one point east of beer bong ice ice cream <unk> groups. I don't fuck with jinro. I <hes> i like the little <hes> like <hes> the court for beiber the the pig yes jim. I think that's oh no. That's why i don't fuck with jim because jin's like my blackout drink. I have gin and tonic and i can count them like water blake botanical them. They're good bartended in general so not martin gives me mix allergy mixologist so interesting to me watching people do things like that with the <hes> like the watched the guy the other day made me forever took the orange peel and he was slapping the asked with it and i'll say fuck scattering but if it works like yeah but that's so cool to be or you know the ones they settled title bhairavi gloria. I like when they do. They do smoke the smoke <hes> yeah those are good. Whoever came up with that is an absolute genius. I how'd you like a good old fashioned. I love fastened best. Oh fashioned case. He said <hes> troops were good. Jokes got some you're gonna. It's called the mint juleps. <unk> julep julep is in westport julia's an actual pleasure yeah yeah yes it is. It's a it's a cocktail cocktail more. It's it's like literally linked to blocking jewish. Jewish is called julep. It's like literally two blocks south of <hes> char- i'm assuming they specialize with a mint julep of the i mean depending on the time of year like they'll have different specials album yeah basically they just they specialize in cocktails in general so there's good summertime they they do. They look <hes> tienanmen. Manhattan's old-fashioned different variations of really good <hes> charlie wills cantons closed down there by said they are tom town in anton crossroad towns is up by coffin centers no anton across from that sushi she place naby tone or nari narrow. It's crosstrek snared cantons up kinda like by like it's on. I don't look at it but maybe but they have good yeah. Drinks been that bananas actually so where else ri- has free good talk when you go here in town. The eldridge probably is pretty good cocktails see. I'm not really need a huge cocktail straight yeah. Just give me some whiskey in its high into beer with e. That's really the only cocktail i really ever drink. Rink is an old fashioned and the courtroom ever. That's i can't i wrote pig they at bourgeois pig. They had these court survivors you. There's some tomb. I'll good good but a novel way i hardly ever the cocktail is sad have in the last two years of probably margarita besides i'll make my wife cocktail home. Yes even cocktail merger she every time i get him all of urban. I was half her try. It and i think there's been my thing too you had this. She's like oh yeah. That's actually not bad. She's not going to drink a glass of it. I'm a real old fashioned fan but what i found is that especially in this town especially at breweries. Most these bartenders have no idea how to make an old fashioned out yet or bad and it's not a lot of people are no ordering old fashioned. You just think yes well also be like we're not. I'm not drop any name but the last <hes> blessed old fashioned you and i had lawrence was in a brewery. That's the thing there he'll pull tasks. Not mixing drinks c._n._n. Varlamov firemen. I've got i've had some good <hes> <hes> passions in burs of just depends where you go into. It really just depends on the bartender man. I mean if you got a bartender. That's actually interested in what they're making yet. They don't just have the old like betty. Crocker recipe book of tale best bartender in in this town works in a pizza joint which feeds its limestone john. Oh yeah yeah it makes me. He makes a good old fashioned. Yeah got you got those guys that you know they. They care about the you know what they're making. They're interested in doing it a different different way. You know that's how you that's part of. The thing that brought bourbon back was his. I mean back in the day think of barbecue just saying a bunch of old men sitting around a boardroom boardroom talking about business like people weren't into that everybody wanted yell the baucus and the gym and then it was in the <hes> eighties in the nineteen eighty four the master distiller buffalo trace elmore t lee which they have a bourbon made after him as well which you'll you'll probably never see a liquor store because it's one of those allocated <hes> he came up with the idea with the idea of single barrel so they found that hat in the warehouses barrels aging. They have honey murals in certain areas. 'cause you know when they when they when they're asian in the warehouse there. It's called a rack house. Mothers rolled into basically columns throughout this like eight nine ten story warehouse but each each area that warehouse you're obviously gonna get different climate different yeah you're right so <hes> they found at the buffalo trace distillery they found areas that created did exceptional national bills and they call them honey barrels and so elmer t lee in the eighties came up with a single barrel so he would he was sending no doubt and it was the most expensive <hes> bourbon on the market at the time it actually blanton's is what he called it so blatant wayne which is another allocated whiskey right is what he started a single barrel it just completely revived the bourbon history because people started getting more undoing now and then they started getting into the cocktail game like hey. What can we do with this so anymore. Do they achieve pretty good consistency even with their single barrels than and when it comes to single barrel. It's gonna be different. Okay so like if you buy two different four rows single where they're gonna be they're gonna be. They're going to be unique. Each one can a unique and it's all because it's the same nashville yeah. No i get that but like i say it says it says other like the climate climate factors adventure those sorts of things that are there barrel. The barrel itself said america's self can be made up to thirty different oak trees. I mean street eat. You know each trees gonna have a a unique profile to it. That's cool. That's that's. I absolutely love. Bourbon glaze on your eyes says he liked burgers manhattan. I'm not feel pretty good or an online. Get back into like the a._b._c.'s of it. Our we only got to be what see what is the c. Is is corn. Gossipy made a fifty one percent corn and then <hes> d is your distillation prove so when it comes off the still it can't be any higher higher than hundred sixty proof as you get into. You know you start to get nevada those one hundred ninety proof you're you're you're getting rid of all the flavor at that point so they keep it one hundred sixty proof below because you still have those flavors from the grains and or a._b._c._d. E is entry proof so when it goes into the barrel he can't be any higher than one hundred and twenty-five proof and so the put it one hundred twenty five and and then when they bottle it it can't be any lower than eight proof so every time you see bourbon you'll never see below abe roof and and then you see the ones that you know the barrel proof that one hundred thirty eight hundred you know in the one hundred twenty six to one hundred thirties and they essentially they may add water water to cut it down to one hundred twenty five to put in a barrel because then is it's aging in the summertime that water evaporates and then you get a higher proof on that a couple of years ago jordan and i were at place nashville called <hes> the smith house in it's where all the what it's a restaurant now called the standard <hes> some mm-hmm <hes> of c. millionaire bought it but it used to be where all the nashville elite would meet had a bone alley in the bottom of it and cigar lounge and stuff and <hes> i was there and <hes> jordan are eating dinner and there were two guys across the table and we'd asked <hes> across the rooms evening and we'd ask the waiter like henry we we can take a tour of the house because you're not supposed to be able to do that. I don't think and the defense contractors found out one was a retired lieutenant colonel who was a what do you call it when you're always misses word up when you're an advocate for politician a lobbyist one louis louis retired lieutenant colonel was a lobbyist and then the retired sar major was a special operations guy who was he made his company made the <hes> pinned amounts for them to forty and fifty gauss. Oh for hobbies said they they made those and <hes> he was like hey man but i heard them asper tour. Bring them with me. You know go so they took us upstairs really cool and we went in this room and look at the you know the owner we got a little private room yeah pitchers george bush president obama and george bush and both eight upstairs in his desk all these things right behind his desk he had a <hes> like a record a vase but a big jar jar of a bourbon with rattlesnake floating in it and <hes> the guy was go yeah. This is like two hundred proof and i was like nasr is nowhere. I'll say or whatever so he's like you guys wanna shot and <hes> mutinied colonel both like yeah and <hes> the old sartor was like i've had that before down not touching it and i was like whatever so thumb you should know better major would touch i banged the shot of this and if jordan was here right now she tell you. I thought she was going to take me to the hospital. I i was was immediately drunk. We went back. We've been drinking at dinner. Anyway went back to house. I woke up the next day and we were driving back. Nashville out here and move it. Put me on my ass. I'd still do it again but you should have to eat straight gasoline balancing your first red flag when the sergeant major said i ain't gonna touch that you you should have known each walked away. I've never had something that crippled my whole body like that. As soon as i pounded it it it wasn't even burn as much as it was like everything shutdown that she it was just a shock i bet you president obama took to shot named touch that i bet he didn't tub at georgia i know george did george brought brought by eight a piece at rattlesnake legitimate like two hundred two nc percent apple yet and i was like you know how like it when people tell you that i've ever i've eight or two hundred. Yeah yeah yeah housing. That's not healthy. I'll say it's not two hundred even national and i even look down to improve like you see the pounded and also desk two hundred. That's gonna prove i've never had anything made me feel that way before and like even the next day i was just like it wasn't a heartburn and i was like bourbon and i'm not gonna make it. I thought it was gonna go hostile yeah. I thought i was going to go to the hospital like or delicious though i do internet love to do it again. I'd do it again i would again. I like to eat snake. Throw on the grill grill cook him up. She would is this one. This is for roses small batch. This has now this is going to be even more rare than the single payer or about the same now the numbers actually more rare. They'll get the single barrel. Which was when we just had. I really liked smooth. It was food and it kinda almost had like a <unk> horrible taste in the front end of it like so that a single barrel. Mrs lists mu yeah. This is releasing so crazy because you you can tell a huge difference in this and jack like even like even the jacksonville barrel the two single barrels you can heal told there's a little more floral movie flavor favor with that yet and this has a very like that that single bill jack had a really distinct taste. This has of berry like i could smoke a cigar this space for hours yeah. That jacket is good but it's one of those like if i had a shield. Jack is my favorite. I think i think this this winter <unk> the single barrel. This is probably my favorite so forth single barrel was a hundred proof and this is ninety three so like small batch. It's the same time in the eighties. After emergency league came out single barrel <hes> master distiller of jim beam booker no came out with small batch so his idea was <hes> he didn't like the idea of a single barrel because it's too inconsistent <unk> every barrels different so his idea was to take those honey barrels and blend them together to make a small batch instead of just you know the everyday jim beam. Now you have jim beam small batch which is completely all all those honey bells put together put together so it's a million times better than just your everyday. This has a like attaining flavor at the end yeah. Why don't the jackson much. I just liked the the punch on the jacker. Thank bear like really like it's just like it's uh peppery and just like it's got a good like burn to it i just i really like that like i said i think i said on scotch scotch guy right <hes>. I think that's one. I don't think you could argue that is probably the most scotch like the ones we've had so far like just kinda really has that heavy hit up front <hes>. I like scotch. You just have to take scratch time. Yeah it does <hes> and like. I said i'm not like an experience scotch drinker or anything but i liked it. I really do like that. <hes> i'll i really that's the thing i like about the jack daniel's single what single barrel single barrel yeah when i liked the the at punch that punch yeah. I like the bermuda 'cause i like oh tally <unk> scotch a lot too but for scotch. I feel like it. You have to be <hes>. It's event based for me like i can't i. I couldn't just come home and during scott bourbon feel like i can bourbon dangerous yeah because bourbon you can you can you you can do some stuff. You can do some stuff over man you get lost. Were you looking at the y. There's i know i know you can get lost on the on the the bert. Were i'll have it stocked as soon as you leave for italy <music>. I'm okay with that. Yes thing about bourbons like because of because of the climate changes at the having dougie. You know you've got the hot summers. He got the freezing cold cold winter. You can put a ten year old bottle of bourbon up against a thirty four year old bottle of scotch any day of the week yet and it's it's all because that aiding have you ever done any distillery tours in kentucky though no higher plan on actually i became a ambassador for maker omar is that was the first part of that i ever had was mark and i fell in love and so became ambassador and they when you become an ambassador they basically make a barrel after in your name and so somewhere in their warehouse. They've got a borough with my name on it. In on we'll be ready between twenty five and twenty twenty seven. We're going to my wife and i are going to take a sure about. I don't think about this yet but we're gonna take a trip out there industry of kentucky bourbon trail they call it yet and it's just all the distilleries out there every time i drive home carolina drive through there and like you know the buffalo trace race right there and you drive past all of i'm always always had the dogs with. I'm always like man. The dangers firms a dangerous game. I really do wanna go into louisville and just like stay for. We can kinda like venture out baseball bat. No i definitely want to go to the buffalo trace race. Yes and there's one bardstown a boxer <hes> they're kind of a newer <hes> they specialize with like blended bourbons <hes> so they'll take like a like an eleven year old bourbon and the blended together with get a four year old the those younger bourbons you get. That's where you can get that way. Kick in that upfront like kind of spice to book those older ones. That's where you get like oak economy more mellow. Mike higher proof kinda taste so they mix those those together and you just have perfection bounce but they actually they just sent me <hes> two samples of their mhm burma that they have nice. They're all pretty good says. I like the new age of bourbon. Come in the mixed kind of stuff or is that like been around for a while <hes> yeah that's kinda like near the modern bourbon roy blended bourbons and really just trying to perfect the perfect bird. It's always always gonna be the chase and trying to find that perfect bourbon. They'll never be done but hey keep chasing. They keep bringing it out. Thank you making yankee making bergson yeah. Do you have anything else to try before. We do our utah down that those were so everything tried was like a single single barrel small badge kind of the differences between the two. These ones are a couple of my favorites so well are one seven. Oh you brought the real allocate damn dude. He brought the real deal. I wouldn't have wasted that on a couple of idiots like you hit me i would so this is only able to find this one time here. Horns what's corporal. They just had it sitting. There and i was like a hello that's fine. You know what's funny. Corcoran does do some stuff like that every now and they do. I like that's not uncommon which is weird to me but there's three there's three liquor stores had been to in town like i'm always going to liquor store. I'm trying to find that one that they're just like hey man. We'll let you know when we right. Yeah everything you know like. I'm trying to find that one and there's three that i go to that. They've always got a great selection nations out of cork umberto yet on twenty-third micro liquor on six okay. It's over by <hes> ace hardware on six three boca gay maria yeah yeah the wesley gave yep and then <hes> roy's around six and walker russa roy roy's lift. That's a little out of my way. I don't give a west deer on the rocks over here. I i went to honor ross licko. They've got a good selection but i didn't really see anything that was eye-popping out of cork and burials the the way to go on some of that yeah i mean overall between i would say it probably between cork barrel micro liquor yeah like i'll bounce back and forth between the leash it good <music> hi this podcast ovary. He's gotta now you had been linked battle bigger. You know dr minds anthony of where some low <hes> canis immelman used e in the golden rappers the roar. There's that's with that reminds me do so like so one so smooth and it just immelt exactly there's a male just completely just evaporator tire mouth man that is good though i do like this so yep. I got a new favorite. This is one of the allocated for everybody tries and and they try to sell these for like one hundred hundred dollars model it smooth but there's a thickness to it yet. Is it like that melting like melts but it's like it. It doesn't in just melt on your tongue and just e category and your entire mouth is amazing. This is definitely one of my absolute favorites were in its weller one. Oh seven okay if you're listening weller one. Oh seven. What else would i need for christmas a. I don't know whether twelve scar the keep talk about why i keep telling my barney scar scar lyson if i'm going to get back into just getting one rifle and going that way ah i was telling him. I don't think i think i might lie scarring and then he's always like you don't do that you can buy. I don't want to build another eiffel man. I really don't i just want to buy something. I just want to buy something happened. I'm not look you'll buy of the really nice in a handgun on a told you i i mean i might end up buying the ebony or three oh eight again the <hes> had the <hes> the ruger <unk> pipe by six couple years ago so i might i might go those routes outs again but i have always wanted to scar and i figure you know if i buy if i'm getting one yeah i was telling him. I saw this thing the amine and herb read it post or something it wasn't one at it but it was a post on there or something but it was like a <hes> this do like a or no girl posted love and she was like yeah. I'm this is my my third date with this guy. I really like him. A lot. Blah blah and the first two dates went well. We've known each other for like a few weeks now and his birthday's coming up so i got him this for like arthur date buchan score and i was like eight yeah marion yeah oh yeah if he married her right then she is brian are in or something they do weird stuff like that surprisingly as my wife's gone to school for sake so made nar angel- get use go buy me a vector there she said becker i just about last. I just did better last night. I it's not scorched going to be a factor. I just said that last night yeah man data vector so by a b two. I'm a fan boy. That's one of the things feather go yeah buddy how he's got before the gen into when they came out with the nine mil got the forty fives the gen one alma god. Yes see like i've been kind of like leaning more towards like classic aspic rifles like like getting a hands on my yet yeah imola grand or <hes> oh three springfield or a like a mauser ninety ninety eight k. something like that i mean yes need to go get you. A real chinese. S._k._s. is just chop it up these now. I don't know man i i. I really just think if i do again that it'll be a scar. I don't wanna go and buy something i know. I'm going to sell six months which may not this time. I was young when i when i used to trade all the time by staff and now i kind of feel like yeah whatever i get would stick with me but i just haven't pulled the trigger on anything when i when i get a gun i don't buy them because it looks cool. You have to have something that i know. If the apocalypse happens that thing's gonna yeah with me and metal apocalypse kind of guy. I mean if it happens. I'm reading these ready. He's i i mean. I don't have a i don't have a way call the the the shelters i mean. I don't have those but i know what i'm doing. Not the guys yeah i mean i know i know what's happening. All head back to holler at lakes already booby-trapped up at all sorts of guns out there. I would probably hit back. My dad always got danger but oh you not trust him. Hey man on worse ma'am locking this place down mean crazy david next door exit and crazy. Mike at the end of the road has got it the yeah. I thought you said always said you're gonna go. Get on top of a which which which billy that katy four yet or you don't the one. I'm going to be the courthouse something. You can't talk about that. The cops will really come down here. That was just a joke that we were talking about our they'll show up. It's just a what if scenario if the apocalypse game yeah there's a place on campus. It looks like a courthouse it. He says he's going to go up. There like you remember dark die arises where does hold court as he goes. I'm gonna have my crowned the mad hatter over there just i would have to go to see being completely landmark is hard ideas to go to an island has bad his armies yet. We're now. That's different yeah. Zombie see now zombies good alaska man. Yeah let him freecell whole. Let them freeze off yet. They're not making it. They're not making it and even if they end thing is even when he gets warm enough to where like it's thown out and got capital defa thing to like what kind of is gonna be yeah. This awards yvonne babies are gone or they fast and we're worthy ridiculous. I it's going so i'd suicide. I'm done man. I i got diabetes. You yeah you would make it. I can i i would but now i will be honest with jeff i would he you. That's fine okay i would. I would tell you straight up like came man time. Keep up her threat yeah. No he knows just like right here. We said now they wouldn't even try to keep up. It's gonna go into the bathroom and hang. I just go off and bear in bombay now i i. I think that the i prayed of nuclear apocalypse much. I am afraid of a biomed kind of a bio warfare thing. I think that's what's going to get people. Some kind of disease won't even be like zombie stuff. It'll be some kind of like respiratory. Disease starts yeah somebody already. Did you see that are already did yeah have you have you. Have you seen this yet. Yes yes somewhere. It was a l. a. wasn't it though yeah. That's why it's good road. That's what i read getting road that they think that like some of the homeless people in l._a. Have <hes> a variation variation would be wanted plug. Kill ya what just take him out. Tom okay well. They can what they start. Spreading it take him out on in in the navy in the any of christ though not not not a bad way going dotted a bad way at ease their pain like we're the go now now i just i <hes> which whiskey tom that's probably true. <hes> no i i have. I do have a really bad problem with the antibac- though jeff and i've had this conversation before i'm always curious korea to those children are those women's property. They should be able to do what they want with them. Jesus christ is that too much drink now now. I'm not even gonna go down that they can have then. I have my face not going to be on a poster board yeah yeah that's gonna keep me from getting into med. School knowing will not gagging. They agree been again. Just want your money your ideal. They just want your money. Got joking. I only was that is good is do we got one more that it now. We got one more all right. It's been a long podcast it has it's all right though you know i'm loving it. Gotta you know. Sometimes you need the yet. Take your time and enjoy these things yeah dolby rushing through it. I should have got some cigars and could dislodge it up in here now. David smoke cigars am wayland. No david david price most argonne you grow weed isn't mike herb's herbs way cactus cactus. We'd cactus weeds. Where are you from. Originally i'm originally from nevada. Okay so born raised nevada and then when i was fifteen we moved to california rela and from there i joined the navy and then did four years years in the navy and then after that <hes> i met my wife in the navy <hes> aircraft electrician and so we did our whole thing and then i got a year before so obvious got out the year before <hes> by the time i got out she was already pregnant with our sun breaks down and so she still had a year left so she got stationed in the more california okay so i was a stay at home bad for like eleven months. It's nothing wrong with that phenomenon good life and the first three months all their dennis sleep in your. I'm sitting there playing college. Duty like this is awesome. Drinking bourbon drinking it had you guys ended up here then <hes> so my brother-in-law who my wife's sister's husband <hes> he they live in overland park in good he worked for being separate way time is one of the big wigs there and <hes> at the time i was looking for a job because it was about time time for her to get out and so we need to figure it out and so he may have meals like hey sing about working for the railroad i was like i don't know anything rather railroad and he's like what you've got. Military experience are huge on you know hiring veterans and i was like all right. I got electrical experience from the military and so they are hiring electricians into pika it'd be n._s._f. So i applied and within a month like they called me up one day. They're like hey you start monday and i was like oh god okay so i had to come out here from california with all it literally. All i had was an air mattress and portable d._v._d. Player and got an apartment. I got a car and just started working right. Oh man you miss california absolutely not you so you like era kansas way better a lotta here dude. That's what like people fear the prices of everything. It's funny like people like you know like i grew up in kansas. My family moved out here when i was like probably three years old so like i don't know anything other than your kansas. That's how this is where i was raised in a lot of people think you know people think it kansas they do. A lot of the l- middle part of the country were just another flyover state enemy. We are but yup. I love kansas. I i've lived all over the country and there's a reason i keep coming back to kansas goods. It's it's fabulous just a great place. I love it here. Yeah i had orders <hes> when i was in alaska to come down here to go. My last duty station was riley and i was like i'm not not go on cance man. That's not going to happen and i got down here. I loved it and i've stayed home now brunell ventral. I don't think i will either. I think i think probably gonna k._u. Med and then i was telling jeff yesterday. I'd love to have a loft in kansas city own a house out here like in the country out here do you. I mean the thing about kansas crazies. You go especially warrants. You've got five minutes outside of town like a all. This photos we took yesterday were six miles up the road from here and it's like crazy beautiful. Yeah it's ridiculous. It looks a lot like carolina. In this part of the i mean especially the eastern part of kansas is a lot more like yeah. I mean it's not a you you get out. Further west and yet kansas is flattened boring and everything else but east kansas gorgeous really then. There's a ton of history here that you don't learn about being on the east coast like we talk about civil war. You don't think about it being out here. You don't know nobody ever talks about that between drinking come by the way so this is woodford reserve double ocht okay so this is considered a finished berman okay so what they do is they. We'll make it like normal. You know your everyday bourbon but then they finish it in a fresh charred barrel of damages okay okay oh the agent for like four years in the first barrel and then they take it out and they put it in this borough for like a year a year and a half whatever and then <hes> bala politics and that's that's called a finnish bourbon and with this one like you'll probably taste. It tastes like very very dominant the oak yeah. I was gonna say you can smell it. We'll even that after taste as it sits. You can like you. You taste oak yeah. I like like the stuff. It's really good. It's it's different. You know like just like definitely not as good as the one of seven no the one of the one of sevens. God just blew everything else away but that's i mean i. It's crazy though they did. I mean i mean i i knew it but like just sitting here and actually having what we've had five or six six different six six different with ease ickes yeah i mean it just the the differences the different complexities with been really you arrive. That's for sure so out of these. We've had we had to whiskies. Forebearance is what you'd say. A we've all allburn will the two jacks yeah tennessee whissy with than everybody else's member yeah by the way this is delicious. I guess one thing about the one oh seven that makes it different is it's weeded bourbon vodka so when they use wheat it's a much softer grain than ri- beds arise where you get that like spicy spicy like you can definitely get that because like in that kind of goes back to that whole kind of like milk almost melt in your mouth sensation that we were talking about like a wheat litas. It's a much softer more. It's more like sweet so you definitely you definitely get in on the flavors of that. Absolutely i think this one just has a very it's just as bad they have three difference <hes> expressions that got weller special reserve which is you can pretty much pick that up and again we have thirty thirty five bucks and then they have well or one seven and weller twelve year which is a highly sought after bottle. I mean those are going for two two three four hundred dollars but out here like like i'm hooked up with the audience grand that he i were you know he travels all through kansas attention all the time. I hate to keep an eye on them. While twelve for me because all over the place especially wichita yet on you pick it up from forty bucks just like excuse me can i haven't had. I haven't been able to have it yet but it's supposed to be. I mean i i know people especially on the reddit threads who ooh that's what they do. They search out like these you know these bourbons and they'll buy them for a shelf price and then sell them for like ten times the value in the bank wild and s just it. That's what you do for some people hustle like that. It's just kind of what they do. Man do what you do like like mile. I won't let's stand any over anything over one hundred dollars for all yeah if pappy as retailing and a hundred and fifty dollars then that's what i'm a spend right right. I'm not spending yeah. I've seen as high as ten thousand under your high as a kite thing though word the thing with these bourbon auctions to is that they're the one thing that people don't take an account and you know i'm guilty of it when i go to actual auctions is yet up twelve these man start bidding on stuff yeah and then you know i've been wanting to pappy for five years yeah. Let's say you know ten random topics to try to load a basketball backboard near and talk about a one thousand nine hundred basketball backboard at an auction. I gotta go pick up. He's so big on nineteen twelve basketball back on okay you yeah yeah. He said the nicer still they just. I'm gonna go there man when i go to in their basement. I'm going over the night center next week. I'll pick it up and you'll hang it up. Emma place this. It's cool. I got it like the hoop and areas nashes backward. I gotta for like nobody else bid on it and got it for like i don't know the hundred video hours less than asking price the starting bid they had like lowered and i bid on it got it back. I'm glad the children that you know that charity is supporting according probably you've got all that money. I'm not gonna talk bad about kate you. I'll tell you it's not wasn't children that was for charity is for the rock chock. Ball is trying it was going to the <hes> is going to the that thing that thing. Would you call it. What's h._d. To me he's mental into the mentor program program yeah that is into the mentor shipbroker fine and they've got enough money from me. Yeah i went that all right. Keep on bass. I showed up. Did you showed up right. You should up league good. I did real good. I got a p man. Tell might goodbye them. Is the broke later. Wrap up the show. I've had enough bourbon. I gotta pee wee <unk> go. Can we call this episode. Mellow in your mouth breath. Yeah no problem mellow in your mouth with mike. We've pardon me listening to be like we're gonna. We're gonna hell on this. This is actually really good episode. It was just just bullshit. The great <unk> he just kept dazzling fax about whiskey bourbon knowledge that good thing that's awesome i mean and if you need any more burn knowledge and actually some cool pictures a bourbon and guns or abandon i bourbon and i know what i'm saying of bourbon <music> guns look at bourbon i on instagram urban and i'll show him some your ear the photography last night it on their follow ear you you don't follow it. You can do mazing of your phone. Yes you can mike inglis words. Forget kill him know what everybody during boura drink bourbon right. Drake bourbon denied everybody good.

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"This week on, it's been a minute I talk out the news with my aunt betty. I'm more concerned about the black man I love that anything world because. I just don't want to get that call. Also parenting in the age of black lives, matter and the history of police reform listen and subscribe to. It's been a minute from NPR. From NPR music. It's all songs considered I'm Bob Boylan. So I've been away for a week a week of furlough. Week of a lot of thinking. A week where I watched a lot of protests and a week where I listened to passionate voices, speak to those long standing injustices in such powerful new ways, so in this week's all songs considered I wanted to do less talking and do more listening. So reached out to five artists with new music that speaks to these times and recording this on the day. George Floyd is being buried and memorialized. Begin with Gary Clark Junior. He's an Austin musician with a lot on his mind. His album from one thousand, nine, hundred called this land, and it deals with the racism. He faces daily. He recently performed this land on Jimmy Fallon with the roots, and after that performance completed a remix with the voice of black thought. On instagram Gary Clark Junior spoke his mind boy, did he ever and in a post called simply thoughts. I encourage you to go to that instagram account and listen. For now, Here's Gary Clark. Junior song the latest version of this land. This is my may apply to plan a twenty mile. Discussing Talk of where my stand poll numbers the full value. Courtesy of reminder. Limited Tom. y'All. Hey considered a web of myself. Warm African. Secrets in the silo. People ended the Lakers in the. Objects of a closer they might see. Without disappears lights. J just cross the to what tightening broke for the. Fifth. Could aspire major good. For goal, but they look thicker. ZIPPING catch. Is. Now. A model. Bride. Culture. Go you they're. Good. You look in your win dope. All the ball. And I tell you. This. You. couple. Way You call. Lab. Want, your. Work Songs off. No Arcade Style Brian. That way. That'll buy. My read the truck. You Dr. Welby. Obscene, novel still Margaret, Cho. This is why. I. Thank. You. Way You. Way Wrong. Nine. Gary Clark Junior the song inspired by what he Guthrie's. This land is your land is simply called this land. The next voice you hear is from Khloe Nixon and she introduces her song. I can't breathe. Hello my name is Khloe Nixon I'm sixteen years old, and I was born in raised in Albuquerque New Mexico. I can't breathe is dedicated to George Floyd victims of police brutality, and the black lives matter movement. And I wrote this song to prompt people to imagine themselves in the shoes of us who are afraid for our loved ones and find it hard to feel safe around law enforcement because of the color of our skin. and. The type of strong burning passion that can dominate all evil and negatively in hate starts with empathy. And that is just really needed. Because this isn't just a current event. This is a deeply rooted issue, and in order to bring about change. We need people to be emotionally awakened enough to really stick with it and. I also want people to know that there are links to resources and things you can do to help in the description of the I can't breathe video on youtube to and all who are listening stay strong. Stay safe much love. Daddy's. Sisters we are math. Afraid to. To. Educate and. Feeling queasy pen and America? Will. Call! I'm saying. On. Come fend for me, but nine one one is biden son of the. Mama says. Hands. Daddy says down pants. You should be fine if I JUST WANNA SEE This is. Can to submission isn't danger. Prove in a system that was made for you. Finding. Undying. and. Come in for me, but. One is right in front of me. And can't. Ask. He's we can. We A-. We can't. Picture is clear you. A. I. Was Wrong. Khloe Nixon. She's a classically trained singer and debut. Album is called and novelist soul. Now to the voice, a fantastic new retail in song that confronts the officers involved in the death of George. Floyd at perpetrators of racial killings. Hey, what's up Bob? Hope that you and your family safe in this very. Turbulent time in our country. I WANNA. Talk a little bit today about Song that I wrote called. How long? It's awesome my. Third Album entitled. Have you lost your mind yet? and. I really wrote this song about. The perspective of what I call the shooter. The perpetrator of violence. In our society. It was very interesting to me like how. You know this violence had become so normalized. And some young kid walks into a church and. Shoots. Nine black people. Guy In Las Vegas sat there and killed all those people, and we hear about this more and more every day, and you know the the proliferation of Police. You know killing black citizens. It just became like you know eating ham and eggs. The. person was killed, so I wanted to really write the song from the perspective of. Of the. Shooter the perpetrator. And the COP kneeling on George Floyd's neck. you know the person that your neighbor? It just snaps one day and just. Starts. Committing unthinkable acts of violence. You know I've been doing this. For the last five years I've been. Creating albums stubborn social commentary. They, were songs about oppression. They were songs about what was really happening at the time whether it's gentrification racism for a culture of blame. Go down the list you know songs like law set of crowd and honest man. Even the Nigga Song you know. I wrote that song about how we should not use that word. And I was never afraid to billy Wright about these topics and with how long. I wanted to write. About the pulse of America the pulse of our society. The good, the bad, the ugly, the unthinkable and even the stuff that makes us uncomfortable I'm very tired of it. And very that. NPR gave me a shot. Five years ago at the tiny desk, 'cause it changed my life and it. Gave me the opportunity to contribute. On a global level. This. Long. Not. The Same Old. Escape. where? Things with A. Pushing. Fast Baton. You. Plan! Must Stink. Back. The. It cannot. Wait for me. Free? Speech he's. Awake. Things. Fast. Access. Dan. Fantastic degree toe is album. It's called. Have you lost your mind yet? It's coming out mid August. Fantastic Negri toe one. The tiny desk contest in two thousand, fifteen in joining him on his new album will be out twenty seventeen tiny desk contest. Winners in the bankers can't wait to hear them together at speaking of the contest this year. We're doing something very different to accommodate the cove. Nineteen world something we call tiny desk top shelf. It'll be a series of live events on the NPR. NPR Music Youtube Channel. We'll be watching some of our favorite contest entries with Dr Judges, so come join us as we build toward the tiny deaths contest winner of twenty twenty. Let's take a break, and you're listening to all songs considered from NPR music. The following message comes from our sponsor Jack. Daniel's makers Tennessee whiskey. Jack Daniel's historian. Nelson. Eddy explains how the brand's long standing association with music traces back to the very. Very beginning. Jack Daniels was a great lover of Music People Know Jack. Daniels came in association with music. Today with rock and roll with others, but it all goes back to jack a lot of the stuff that we do goes all the way back to Jack to learn more about. Jack Daniel's Tennessee whiskey Goto Jack Daniels DOT COM. Please drink responsibly. This message comes from NPR sponsor. Better help the online counselling service. Service dedicated to connecting you with a licensed counselor to help overcome whatever stands in the way of your happiness. Fill out a questionnaire and get mashed with a professional tailored to your needs, and if you aren't satisfied with your counselor, you can request a new one at any time free of charge visit better help dot com slash songs to get ten percent off your first month. Get the help. You deserve with better help. It's all songs considered I'm Bob Boylan. That speak to these times and this from Leon. Bridges written from the perspective of a black man, taking his last breath, feeling his spirit leave his body. The, Song Features Terrace, Martin, but first here's Leon bridges. Sweeter as a response to the perpetual narrative of unarmed black men that have died in the hands of police. Sooner is a response to the racism and injustice. That's embedded in American. I want people to listen to sweeter from the perspective of a black man, currently of the grip of his impressive. Of Black Man and his last moments, transitioning and seesaw skills of life and death. His mind body and soul is going to do a flashback reaching out for help to permission that told him. He's in danger because of the color of skin. Apprentice resonates. Sweet. Stir this story. Why fee skinned. A. He thought. Dark. They were. Of the king disappearing the air. Fly. Somebody's handwriting. Chance to be. Star. Scam. Hey. My sisters. Skin. Feel. Hoping for More. Liane bridges along with terrace Martin. The song is called sweeter. Leave you now with country singer Mickey Guidon she's inspired by Dolly. Parton inspired by Whitney Houston. Nashville record deal about ten years ago. You can read her story of being a black woman and country music in a wonderful piece by Julie Hide on the NPR music site. Mickey Guidon, recently posted a new song called black like me on her instagram account, and the song wound up on spotify hot country playlist I. Want You to listen to Mickey Guidance Black like me. Thank you all take care of Buddy. I'm Bob Boylan PR music. It's all songs considered being an African American woman. The country music world has definitely had many challenges for me and. For a long time I felt unseen and unheard, and because of that I wrote a song about it. and. I wrote a song about my pain and I. Now realize that. Going through that enabled me to write a song about it in shed, a small glimpse into what African Americans have been going through for four hundred plus years. And hopefully can spark change and healing, and that's what the song was four. And I hope that it can bring so much peace to people and I hope people can hear the love that was put into the song. And I'm grateful to have been in the room that day when we wrote it, but it's been really really special. 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