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"jack barsky" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

07:32 min | 6 months ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on WGN Radio

"Be broadcasting the race and the other night. My wife and I were thinking, Let's watch something. You know, we were thinking. We're watching one of the basketball games and it was a huge blowout who got blown out the other night. Was it Miami and Milwaukee? Man? Milwaukee. I said this to my son. Milwaukee is legit, but they've been legit. For a while. And You know that the guy Johannes, I can't say his last name Tenoch combo. Yannis Tennekoon Bo 6 11. He's like a monster, and he's so good. They're They're fun, Easy team to root for. I know there's a lot of Chicago Milwaukee rivalry, but you know, I always like it when the Brewers air good too, because the Cubs Brewers rivalry is is something fun. I agree, But my point was is John Williams was talking about this Syriza on Netflix called Formula One, Anybody anybody? So he started watch it. It's about the whole Formula One race. Kind of circuit and they're following that. We just watched the first episode, and I'm not a huge race fan like that's not a thing. That I was ever. It's funny because I love cars, and I grew up around the car thing. But the racing like I can remember when my sister Was married to my my my late sister was married to my brother in law. He was a racer and used to go to Union Grove and drag race And I remember as a kid going to that That was cool, and he had this 68 Chevy SS Chevelle. And it was red with a black Landau top and he would go race there. That was fun. That's a bit like the whole racetrack NASCAR Formula One, But this thing this formula one was really cool and the amount of money That these companies spending how big Like the Mercedes team, or, like the Ferrari team was like 2000, people that work on the team, you know, like across the whole thing, and then they travel to different. You know, And then these cars or millions of dollars and this smashing into the wall It's crazy. I think one of our engineers, Brett Jackson's a big fan of that show he was trying to get give me on it last week, and it's cool because it don't they go into the drivers and, yeah, crew and all that. It takes in there. I mean it, Zez. It is absolutely a team effort, right? I mean, certainly the driver is the crown jewel of the whole thing. But I mean, all these men and women that are involved the team and the technology was unbelievable. Joe and the Formula one they've got like this. It's almost like a broadcast center, where they There's cameras that are set up all over the track. Where the you know the person that's in charge and what was interesting to talk to Mike Jack Barsky about this because one of the teams one of the smaller teams on the circuit Is the house team, which I'm pretty sure is. The team house is a company that makes all these manufacturing. Uh, pieces of equipment, you know, like CNC routers and stuff like that, and he uses them in his school. With his students, and they're like, like one of the only American teams that are out there. They're like the little engine that could, And in the first episode, it doesn't go well for the House Teen Uh, real quick. You mentioned John Williams and the Indianapolis 500. He and David were talking yesterday. I didn't realize this. Apparently, we used to air the Indianapolis 500 like way back when before we had the Cubs and I don't know about that. I knew I knew we it really, But not before we have the Cubs. We have the Cubs forever. I know. But the Indianapolis 500 started in 1911. With horse and buggy, Right? No, Today's the anniversary actually come on trigger. Let's go. Really? That's That's what John Williams said. So you know what if that's wrong If we could blame him, he drinks during the day? Yeah, I have heard that too. Yeah. 772134 Lou. Eight, said he does not have making that up. 87 sound to 1 3/4. Luke 8772134568 is the phone number. This is packed calling in Hi, Pat. Good morning. You're on How smarts radio. Good morning, Lou. Thank you so much for taking my call. Of course. I have two questions for you. The first one is we have a trek stepped on the back of our house We put on about seven years ago, and it's looking kind of dull and dingy, and we just kind of wanted to know what would be the best cleaner for that. Dawn dishwashing soap, warm water and a and a like a deck brush. How big is the deck? Um, it gets pretty big two levels. Okay, Then. How about this Dawn dishwashing soap and a bucket in a broom? Kind of brush it onto the deck? Not don't scrub it. Just brush it on. So we get the sudsy. Kind of Cleaner on top of the deck and then get up pressure washer. You have one or do you Yeah, we have one. Don't go crazy with it because you can damage the deck. But now we're just gonna go. We're gonna allow that sudsy soap to sit on their for 10 or 15 minutes and then come back over the top of it. What's nice about that is You won't damage any vegetation around there and you'll just clean it all up with the pressure, washer and soap will take care of the dirt and debris and it'll look really nice. Wonderful. Thank you so much. I appreciate that are my second question is we have in our basement. We had a finished basement. We took up all the drywall and we had some leaking. Keep it coming in. But we have a water retaining to rip around. You know, around the basement, you know they Ford area. And it goes into our sometimes well discovered that that's leaking, but we don't know a good feeling or do we need a professional to check that out. I mean, If it's not heading into the sump pump. If you've got that what that's called Water guard on the side to help channel that water in there, Something is a miss where it's not heading into. The sum pump area. Where do you live? We live in Sheffield, which is where It's in between, like Princeton and key Wani, Illinois, Okay? Um, I don't know that you're going to get my friends over per Maciel to come out there. But there is they're associated with the company, a supplier called basement systems. And if you go to that website, and you look for a contractor that's affiliated with basement systems. That would be somebody that I would have come out and take a look at it and see if they can inspect it. Most of those companies offer free inspections and so you can have them. Come out and take a look at it and see if they can assess what's going on. It could be a clogged drainpipe, and many times they could put a little camera down there to find out what's going on. And it might be your best bet. Thanks So much for the phone college 9 18 in the morning, we'll take a quick break and be back right after this. Chicago news current local agenda free.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

02:31 min | 1 year ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"My name is Eric and this is unstructured or we have dynamic informal conversations with some amazing people. Today we are joined by an amazing guest with an amazing career. Same as Fred Burton is. Really Hero. I mean. He has been all over the world and has walked through sadly a big chunk of terrorism in the Middle East that we've suffered under. Now start a lighter note. How're you doing today Fred? I'm doing just fine, Eric? Guy. I appreciate that introduction by but no stretch of the imagination should anybody consider a hero? I think anyone who is doing their best to save lives is a hero be it a firefighter, a soldier or somebody WHO's trying to stop? Sorry I'm GonNa pin the label on you just wear it. Well. Thank you. You're very kind to say that. and. I'm going to start off with the you started your Book Ghost which I've been reading with a list. And it's a lot of years later. Since you started your list. Are there still a lot of names on the list or has the list been whittled down a bit? It has been whittled down a bit I've managed to. Work my way through quite a few years since we PUT The list together and From my perspective there there's still a lot of loose ends Eric, the the kind of drive me. especially the older I get. recognizing that the hourglass of time has kind of shifted. And that that's one of my motivations for. Hearkening back to the days of the seventies and eighties with my stories. Just because. I feel that there's a lot of loose ends that I kind of left hanging and my old case files. Is there also a fear and I'm going to bring up a previous guest who was GonNa seem unusual to you but Jack Barsky was the KGB agent who lived undercover in the United States. He is now an American citizen and very patriotic. He loves the country. But he fears as I do he's in his seventies and. People don't remember..

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"jack barsky" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

03:35 min | 1 year ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"Official. Welcome to your taxes show. This is our one. Probably to be followed by our too. I don't know who arranges that. But it happens just about every day we have two hours in the second hour follows the first and by the way. We've got a lot of news here. First of all in our one, which is in a couple of minutes. I'm talking to Arthur Brooks. He used to be with the American Enterprise Institute. He's now teaching at Harvard and I have to tell you he's always fascinating to talk to. He spoke of the National prayer breakfast this past year. And he talked about loving your enemies, and I want to ask him about that because the president said he didn't agree with what Arthur said. And then we're going to talk in our too. To our friend Jack Barsky. Now, Jack Barsky. He's been on this program. He was a KGB agent. We're not making this up. It's an unbelievable story. We had him on the program a while ago. He tells all the details, but we wanted to talk to him about what he sees as a former dedicated Communist Now living in the United States on being a Christian and loving American freedom and aunt. I'm having some dental work done during the program. So if you hear any drilling or anything just realized that I'm having some people work done. Okay. Now, uh, dress didn't even hear this drilling. It's part of the fun of living in New York. You have one is mining into the bunker. Someone is mining into the bunker. You found you some chicken news, you know? Yes, we dio so we believe, bought eight chickens over the weekend one to represent All eight members of our family, so six little ones and to kind of larger little ones. They're called pullets, which means they have They don't have the down anymore. They have feathers. So there, you know, a couple months older than the little ones and so they could be outside in a coop. Once they have their feathers to protect them. You still hear this noise? Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the KGB. You're gonna have Jack Barsky on later than trying. I feel like crawling out the window and saying, Hey, guys trying to do a radio. I'm dating myself, but it reminds me of for although trying to get into Al Capone's safe, remember, they had to drill into it. Get if they get in here. Well, they're working on the building that they should start. At the room where we do the radio show because just to get out of the way, so I honestly kind of wonder what the maybe the re facing the bricks or something? I don't know what you know, it adds up. A sense of fun to our program. But we were talking about chickens and I think, Yeah, well, confused. May so Yeah. So, so anyway, the news of the day is we built a coop last week. And yesterday was the first day that we put the kind of more more grown up chickens the pullets into their coop, So he transferred them to their new home. So they slept out there overnight and we woke up this morning. To make sure they weren't eaten by anything and we build a secure enough and they were still alive. So that's great news. There's still alive. Wow, That's great, Mike. Mike, By the way, my chipmunk is doing very well. A swell I've gotta pepper for him for today. My question is, have you got any eggs so far when he when he expect to get eggs? I don't get eggs from my chipmunk. I'm sorry. Yeah, we get eggs will get eggs in a couple weeks, and there's.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

05:09 min | 1 year ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"How are you doing today Greg to a greater? How about your fantastic? I'm really excited to have you on wanted to have you on for a while. You work with a previous guests Scott. Rows Scott Nine met a couple years ago. I guess it seems like a couple years. We've been added about five years. We've got a couple of ventures together and working on a book together right now. liar. Book and we have a site with subscription. Bilingual micro courses called by language tactics dot com, so we worked together. He's by language guy, more police interrogator, mine, sex resistance trainer. Op Skyward especially I worked as a special forces support interrogator in the first four. So mine is a little more prisoner of war with more terrorists, more police and Crime local, school. Has a right there, because that was one of my questions that I was contemplating while researching and I consider that interrogating a suspect or a criminal. They're not always the same. Is Different than. Interrogating an enemy, combatant or soldier and I'll tell you my reputation. You could tell me from completely off, but like I've had Jack Barsky on. Who is the KGB agent? I don't consider him evil. I consider him to be a Patriot job right? He's just. He works for the other side. How do you reconcile? some in a criminal or suspect versus a soldier? Well first thing is a soldier, either is conscripted and forced to job, or they have signed up there patriot and they're doing a job to protect something. They hold you all take a step. Further and people have been angry at me for saying this before, but if you can't understand the mindset of terrorists, who is. Is Willing to blow himself up for 'cause. You can't interrogate because you're. You're too narrow minded, and you're to focused on. Consider them all in the same person, and that's not the case now. There's a certain thing that causes terrorists. Go go in this. This suicide bomber thing, but prisoners of war typically are not saying now. Are there crazies and criminals there, too, but they're not typically the same. Large numbers of them are patriots. Just like you said in many cases they may have had a day job doing X. Y. or Z..

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

13:53 min | 1 year ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"Before we get started. I just wanted to tell you that. Today's interview was also a video interview that can be found on my youtube channel. Eric Hunley I also have left streams? And if you listen to this the date it comes out my livestream later today is with Thomas Becora of the CIA. If you don't catch it live that's fine. You can always catch a repeat. I have others like Rob Andrew Rica the FBI as well as Dana Ridenour and Jerry Williams also of the FBI and on the channel. You will find some great video interviews like Henrik sexiness. I have a livestream with him as well. He is known as the Darren Brown of Sweden. And I'm really proud to say coming extremely soon. I Have Jack Barsky. Jack is the undercover KGB OPERATIVE. Who lived in the United States? For ten years. He will be on the livestream and he will be able to answer your questions in the chat now for today. I bring you and modest shea. Ou'd and we discuss workplace communication. My name is Erica. And this is unstructured or we have dynamic informal conversations with some amazing people. Today we are joined by a fantastic person. I'm going to try the name probably mutilate it but an much and Monte out. Marta and Marci out and yes I will be cutting head any matt. How're you doing today? I'm good and I'm impressed because it's such a terrible name to pronounce if you're not from the Netherlands. Sorry let's say you did your best but you can always call me and during this conversation because you have this tongue twister going on Seoul I will. Yeah that's that's Nice isn't it? Yeah no and your specialty is going into corporations and exploring or working with would it be workplace conflict or just workplace communication. I would say communication because if you just say conflict that's not always the case. Sometimes it's people will want to be more self assured all they are working in a team and they want to do better so I would say communication although that is very broad We always say it's about behavior so we come in businesses until about behavior. Okay and to put everybody on track. You were recommended to me by the Great Joe. Navarro who is possibly the best in the world at body language if not. He's in the top five and of course he is going to your conference and gum curse had nagging him mutual friend of ours so definitely enjoy that but body language then and that's something I cover lot is part of what you explore what I'm interested in though and I have found that we worry about body language and we say okay. The arms closed off. Or are they doing this? Or they're scratching their nose. That's cool but what do we do with it question? Well let me start with the ONS cross because every time I start election and Joe will say the same. It is always seen as A. We know that isn't it means. Somebody's closed off. You know and then everybody thinks. Hooray we know something about body. Well let me say I. It's it's cold a south hug and that will really says something. So it's not. It's not like a shield. It's nuts we could. We tried to comfort yourself all the time. So that's one thing I always want to address and secondly it is exactly what you say. We have to look at everything. It is not just one tiny thing here or there. Whatever you always have to look at the whole body would also and this is why I love doing. My job is everything that is influencing the situation so The interaction between you and me is already different than when you have an interaction with somebody else and you might have the same body language but when the other person is different. There's an interaction going on. And there is different body language going on and then you also have the setting so to make a long story short. What can we do with? It is analyzed can use to analyze but then you have to adapt it to the situation because if the situation is going fantastic well while then. Nobody's in trouble and we love it but usually or you can say. Sometimes in business situations there carries off what goes wrong and that is fantastic if we can read the body language but also adjusted now. I've had a lot of people on chase. Hughes is a great example of it and what he recommends and others is to just spend a little time. You've got to find a baseline. Is that what you do? Because you can't read somebody if you don't know what they act like normally. Yeah but I absolutely I fully agree on and what I would like to add is also your own baseline because what we do a lot. So when you talk about non verbal communications a lot of people always focus of the other person but for what I try to do with. My business is making people aware of their own body language. How do you do this? When do you feel comfortable? So when you're in a situation and you kind of realize hey him doing something that I normally don't do then you can use it. Oh maybe I'm uncomfortable so I would definitely go for baseline but mostly your own baseline knowing how you will you will be here is and what your preferences. This interesting knows that. Get into Marine and trying to shall we say approach people in a mutually comfortable manner? I don't I don't know if I'm working that well but some people are Dutch and a bit more direct or they may be more flowery language or they may be more introverted again. Is that something that you need to look at it in yourself to to kind of maybe calibrate with up to get the fantastic would think it's very important if you calibrate Well as Joan of are also says a I also teach that is? It's about comfort for both people so fully mirror. Somebody you see people doing this. Sometimes after cools over know about mirroring and the in order to try to exactly what the other person does that is not authentic. So it's not aligned with yourself if you are able to come to this level where you mirror the behavior of the other inundated also incentive for you and also comfortable for you then you see that the confidence is going and that's really a three helpful specially business situation so. I think we only had that awkward situation like this is not this is not aligned. Yeah well this starts to get into the other subjects and I think I've spoken to you in the past about how I feel that reading body language and persuasion and even marketing are all part of a spectrum and the calibration the marine and the comfort level is it sometimes a technique to sort of Mir and then start shifting so it's like follow follow lead. Not Quite sure how you soon. Maybe you could elaborate like you. Start to get a rhythm. It's Sorta like when people are sitting together. Their breath will start to line up overtime. Even the heartbeats can align go and and try to be receptive and open to the other person and in speaking in the same manner and then kind of start shifting your behavior so you follow them to sort of log into it and then you shift at like a persuasion techniques almost into hypnosis stuff but I didn't know if that was something that you practice are observed I think there's so many different techniques people use and what you see is at with alignment thousand ways and especially for instance if you think about Chris Voss when he expecting Goshi those kind of things really important but if what I always try to stick it back to who are we and we are having a conversation and if you feel comfortable and I feel calmed comfortable we can achieve things and very very simplified but if you if you think about it too much like oh now. I'm going to adjust this. I don't think it works for people. I think when people really start to connect with our own behavior and observe and see how they can make somebody feel comfortable without kind of acting. Because that's a risk in these Things when we talk about nonverbal communication and alignment and influencing others but if it's genuine but also with comfort for yourself on the others I think then what you said is is happening. Maybe naturally no that makes and maybe some of us being led him because of interrogation and things of that sort. That's different. I think especially when you read all the books about interviewing techniques in situations where you really want to extract something on the high pressure high stress. That is so much different than you. And I having compensation because we're trying to align here as well in our with a video coal. It's still so different than we would be together. Really would focus on each other in non villa communication. That's a masterful segue that you just did. Because one of my questions is how do we establish communication relationships over video which everybody in the world is doing? At the moment I heard the day somebody said When not made for two D communication and the presence of would make for Three D. Communication? I would like to say we're made for forty communication. You know you have these movies whether it's four D. Where you can see everything but also this smell and movement and everything and with a lacking of that. It's really difficult for people these days to actually come across in the way that they want to come across but also that the alignment is so much harder because We try and it's. It's nice that we have this equipment to communicate in a different way than just a phone but it's difficult. It's very difficult so trying to use as much as you see me. You stand very still you see me working with my hands. All the time which could be distracting. But I'm so used to emphasize you know we needed talking. This helps to make a point. Well it's how you naturally are comfortably communicating. Which is which is perfect and I have A. I don't know if it's been written somewhere but have a theory that there are three people in the conversation and what I mean by that is. Each person has their own elements. But the two people together that particular chemistry's reflecting out a third entity if you will because you talk to your husband and a different way than you talk to your boss. You talked to this percent different way than somebody else. And the way to people interact is creating another energy and then is the third. This is interesting. I've never heard this before. What would you say the third Hesam Avenue the third persons like a reflection? Like if you're on the outside looking at them you see you see the other but then you see the interactions between them. And that's like a third entity. I don't know how to explain them. You know this is stuff that is coming up with completely ridiculous. No no no no no let me. Nothing is ridiculous and because who knows that might be the case it's It's actually we could try to the what would be interesting if he videotape people. You see people. Here's a great example. You've got the workplace environment. Now you have to employee's and they'll have a lot of chemistry and when they are together. They're both their chemistry rises. And you feed off of this energy because you know they're just going back and forth and riffing on each other and it's almost like a a magical thing going forward then you get somebody else who walks in the room completely toxic to one or the other and the interaction between those two people both of them to become something completely different and then you're drying energy off of this negative energy between the two of them. That's the third. I never looked at it that way. I think I always a think if what I understand is if you can when you walk into a room and you can feel this tension going on but I kind of try to see.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

04:38 min | 1 year ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on KQED Radio

"But there is a possibility that sometimes but I your turn on new York are probably New Jersey Jack Barsky get out again the president spoke before boarding marine one on his way to see off a hospital ship headed to new York's harbor New York governor Andrew Cuomo says he recently spoke to trump but not about a possible quarantine Cuomo said quote I don't even know what that means Scott dentro NPR news Washington California governor Gavin Newsom is banning evictions of renters affected by the corona virus it lasts through the end of may several California cities had already blocked infections but NPR's ana Jaffe reports Newsom's order extends the protections statewide Newsom's order requires tenants who can't pay their rent to notify their landlords in writing no more than seven days after the rent is due valid reasons are loss of work because of the shutdown of most businesses were because the tenant or a family member is infected renters would have to retain documentation such as pink slips or pay stubs tenants would still have to pay their background when the order expires state senator Scott Wiener said that the measure did not go far enough because it does not prevent a flood of evictions from being enforced as soon as the emergency period is over I know Jaffe NPR news former senator Tom Coburn has died at the age of seventy two as NPR's Colin Dwyer reports the Oklahoma Republican earned a reputation for fighting federal spending no matter whom he angered in the process before he was elected the mid nineteen nineties Tom Coburn was a position but during his nearly two decades in Congress first in the house and then in the Senate Coburn earned a different kind of title Dr no he crusaded against government spending even put out an annual based book cataloguing right he found to be the most flagrant examples of it and he said it didn't matter to him which party was responsible here he is talking with NPR in two thousand six we're not here to raise money for campaigns we're here to make the tough hard long term decisions it's going to secure the future for the country governs former communications director said the senator died after a long battle with prostate cancer Colin Dwyer NPR news this is NPR from KQED news I'm Queenie Kim president Donald Trump signed a two trillion dollar economic relief bill yesterday KQED's guy Maserati is here to explain how the bill will affect us here in the bay and guy I think was top of mind for most folks right now is all the people who are out of work how is this bill expected to help them right well I think that's definitely top of mind where in the bay area this region wide lockdown has forced so many businesses to close lay off workers the biggest piece in this bill on that and it's a huge expansion of unemployment insurance if you're a minimum wage worker in the bay area making six hundred dollars from a job every week typically that unemployment is caps below three hundred dollars now Californians get to get that state unemployment and then get another six hundred dollars every week on top of that through the end of July and where does this leave gig workers consider independent contractors they don't traditionally qualify for unemployment rates typically they don't but those workers were included in this release bell so for example if you're an uber or a lift driver on the side and you've been laid off from your main job or have their hours cut you'd still apply for unemployment whatever that means W. two is coming from but if you're fully self employed those independent contractors will have access to a separate emergency funds through the end of the year where they can get unemployment and get that extra six hundred dollars a week for the next few months all right I know this is a massive bill but I'm sure there's folks who feel like they're wanting more right that would be California state government I mean look the state government's going to get an estimated fifteen billion dollars in that bill sounds like a lot but our state budget is going to take a huge hit as we see income tax sales tax capital gains tax all declining that's the money that's paying for frontline health needs first responders Medicaid our schools so state leaders already saying they're gonna need more than this bill provides all right that's KQED's guy Marsha Roddy and I'm Queenie camp KQED news support comes from personal capital offering online money tools to give users a three hundred sixty degree view of all their money personal capital dot com support for NPR comes from the Joyce foundation committed to advancing racial equity and economic mobility for the next generation in.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

08:10 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"One is right. That's a good one. It would be mass suicide exactly. I mean either way you go. It's like the more you information you give the more. They harden pardon this is both sides. Oh Yeah Yeah. It's it's group. Think in what they call the Echo Chamber that you're Believe in what you're saying. Whatever else was in that chamber Champion fan but saying closing your your your your ears. Let's just dangerous in. And that's fundamentally the danger of ideology because that's what it is ideologise colleges Hanging onto a belief without thinking and. Yeah on that note because we're heading that way I kinda wanted to close out and get your feelings leans on. There's a real. Shall we say new embrace of socialism in the United States or a desire for that. Have you noticed that not in thoughts. How can you not notice that it's frightening because This is based take on what this is based on on the non existence of a foundation history. Because isn't is the bottom line there it has never been a communist country ever in history because they they may have started out with the Communist ideology he but they all turned into dictatorships. Now let's go to the software side a socialism. Here's my my problem with that and trust me I. I don't believe you know. The capitalist United States is not GonNa Buzzer but socialism it if if you requires concentration of power near the top government so we are talking about collectivism and this is this. Is the problem in history. Collectivism eventually will turn into dictatorship because it needs to defend itself and and it's because he wants to make decisions on your on your behalf. Now there are some people won't like those decisions therefore it you start defending yourself and and you will be attacked. Look at what's happening in France until it Hong Kong. Oh yeah you know. More more more patriotic Americans Hong Kong possibly San Francisco. Don't quote me on that. You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's a shame but young people don't really know the the socialist less communist ideal is it's so wonderfully attractive. Why can't we all get along? I'm working with a fellow right now. Who is writing a book? And he's he's he's incredibly incredibly naive and I won't tell his name but he he's a wonderful guy incredibly naive and and and the fundamental idea that he's carrying with him. Is You know most everybody on the planet agrees to the road that the golden rule is a good idea. So why in the world have we not been able to achieve if peace and that is where we as human beings are just naive and we just want to believe that we can all get along long it in Kinda work this getting along needs to be managed and it needs to be managed in such a way that power is distributed. And this is where you know. Two thousand years ago the Romans figured this out pretty well and then founding fathers did that too and we're getting close to losing this and and I think that that would be the end of the United States as we know it like the Roman Empire Right. Well Yeah and we also oh see some signs of moral decay now. Not Everybody would agree with that statement but any anything and everything goes goes and there is no a the moral glue that holds society together. That's that's what I call moral decay. I'm not judging. That's not the point. If it's if it feels good good and I do it as long as I'm not hurting somebody else not hurting somebody else. How do you know that you're not influencing somebody to do stuff that it's really not good for them? We talking about legalization of drugs and all this stuff. This is all very complicated and you know we can only scratch the surface in a number. I'm not the scholar and But but I think the trend the trend is very dangerous and the trend in some respect is is led by people who are hungry for power. That doesn't mean that the other side is not hungry pile them in. That makes sense that I do think that the initial framers of the constitution and that they very much had in mind and they actually planned for and that was that everybody would want power and they wrote it in that manner what I feel they missed or did not foresee was what about those who want power but they don't want responsibility and with that we have a congress has abdicated half of the responsibility over to an executive branch. Well that is true We also have a political political class that the founders did not envision they send everybody home and now politician is this is a profession. That means you're you know gets it's human nature to be selfish in. I think selfishness. This is necessary for progress but it needs to be it needs to be in some way regulated so it is selfish for bureaucrat. To work really really hard to keep their job it selfish for a member of Congress to work really hard to keep the job well eventually the both the bureaucrats Andy politician Develop a distance from real life and they're not serving anymore. I thought that was pretty good. I think it's fantastic but sad. Actually sometimes I developed thoughts while I'm talking. You're brilliant guy. Hi On that happy note. I guess we've determined that the The stakes are dyer. Bad things are coming. Hopefully we can turn something around and people can find out more about you jack. Barsky DOT COM and my book deep undercover deep undercover. I do highly highly recommend that book. Thank you and Dan. Thank you for having an audio because I have difficulty finding time to consume books otherwise kind of the Bible. Yeah yeah I know and the by the way I I appreciate this interview. It was great challenged intellectually. I'm I'm just encouraging your listeners. To you know. Watch out for for me on link. Dan and facebook. Because I got some initiatives going that might people might find interesting. I don't WanNa get too much into detail. Okay I'll definitely definitely link both of those in the show notes and hey thank you so much.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

11:33 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"In one's dead okay but okay but you know in the in the old rotate of resistance in the Nazi Times. The the Communists sales were organized in threes and there was one liaison that it was a liaison to another group of So it would have been very difficult to like erase Leeann Tire Organization and this is how this is how communists used to operate in clearly. It is significantly superior to the way the American intelligence works. Because you you leaders at the highest level. Oh that's true I mean I'm not praising the internals CIA has some pretty embarrassing history themselves. Sure but we're we're talking about nowadays. I mean there's lease coming not as much anymore out of the White House now. How's that that's just not acceptable? Especially when it comes to matters matters of national security and and that's one of the reasons I can't. There's a lot of things I can't tell you and what I what I have found out about my own existence ends and how the KGB operated is through people like Peop- folks from the FBI. That I know my my my new friend and newspaper interviews I myself was pretty dumb and blind. Suren I again. I don't blame you for that. I was just thinking that the expense of your training gene. And everything else to not really use you that much. That's when I would have saying when I'm like. It seems almost wasteful. Well okay so so. I don't know if they made it clear on the book. They had a really really good plan but unfortunately Fortunately with everything that happened in Communist and we all always had a good plan plan and then we failed to execute so used to plan being sent to the United States I acquire legal documents including a passport especially the passport that was experienced significant. That was the crown jewel and then I would have moved to. Let's say Switzerland Austria and then the plan was to set me up with the company and funnel a lot of money into the company. And you become Elon. Musk or somebody. I've become I've become reasonably wealthy. I moved back to the United States at that point. I don't have to tell anybody how exactly I acquired by wells. I just habit because I wasn't a successful businessman in the US. And at that point I I could have knocked to pretty much the doors of any country club and say hey you want to. And that's what that's when when I would have been able to do some damage but but because of the failure to acquire the passport that option that flexibility. It doesn't did not exist. I mean yeah I had to work my way up. You know twenty five years later I was actually positioned to do damage but you know I had resigned and Longtime before wow. It sounds like. There's a quote about war. That war is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror. Would that be similar to what you had no no. That's a laconic Noah. I'm sorry no no no I maybe I can. Maybe we will draw sort of a parallel. There were long periods of waiting and they were short bursts of action. But you know when you say war that now. That's too dramatic okay. Well a lot of seems like it was boring and I know you've described how it got to the point where the pike craft was tedious. Because it interrupted your day job it did and I'm not making it up. It did it because you know the computer programmer job was rather demanding and so I had to do the some of the things that had had to do with communication such as composing letters and putting secret lighting writing on them and then making sure that I'm not being followed writing a message and mailing. It took about six hours so that was now moved to Saturday so I didn't even have a social life and they did not understand this. Apparently there was no other choice. This is what they instinctively knew and there were a couple of remarks that I heard that indicated that they saw the shelf life of somebody like me would have been ten to twelve years because eventually you become the other person Okay so they assume that you would corrupt overtime yesterday. Dead but now what. They didn't know that that the corruption process was accelerated by having a baby girl in this country. Sure sure and I know that that that definitely changed every in the other person who was responsible for me talking to you she. She has to pivot points. And then it's it's the Mitrokhin fellow who brought the information about me to this country in when I was then apprehended. I can't help but wonder wonder too. Though if the timing of world history didn't factor in the fall of the Soviet Union had had to have an effect and I guess I'm asking asking do you think it would have been as easy to transition into being a full American if instead it was you know two thousand if it was actually nineteen eighty eighty. Okay so you you you making a good point My my staying here was not influenced by by the events simply because I had I had no clue what was coming I I- defied the KGB. You identified the order to return back home in nineteen eighty eight. The Berlin Lynn. Walsh fell in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine I I as well as the entire. CIA had no clue that that was coming. So that's number one number two. I had no idea that the Soviet the union was GONNA collapse to however and he has to. I think he is will question that you asked. If the Soviet Union and East Germany had still I've been stable countries They may have had more resources to find out what happened to me and possibly ably retaliate. They were they were way too busy to figure out what to do with the rest of their lives right and I was wondering wondering if you're welcome may have not been as warm if is in the middle of the Cold War versus kind of after on decide that is probably wrong because defectors have always been welcomed by either side there too valuable based on based on what they know in what they can share with a with a country that that did affecting to Now unless of course you're dealing with a killer or somebody who has committed serious crimes. I don't know how that would work. But but give you an example of a defector who I guarantee you was responsible danceable for a number of killings in and He he came to the United States as as a defector Maybe ten fifteen years ago. I won't name his name in public. He but but he is known He's known he's he's out out in public he's a he's an advisor to the Washington. DC Spy Museum but based on the position that he had indicates he be he must sign. That sentence is no way that that that didn't happen and he's he's still come here simply because he brought a wealth of information with him. Okay that's how it works on the spy world. You know you. Can you tell me what you know and I treat you really nice you know and some of the defectors will treat it a lot better than me they they. Will you know they would wind up in the witness protection program with a nice piece of chunk of money to start over. I and I just was allowed to continue my career. Perhaps because they didn't have enough tasks that they know it rationale. I understand that the the they literally didn't want to disrupt my family was so Americanized Americanized with two kids and a wife and end mortgage and a decent job and on and on to take out of the place where I lived in. Put Me Someplace in Utah With my children I think would wooded done a lot of damage to the kids. Oh yeah well you. You'd already done the job that they would be doing with the witness protection program or whatever you kind of did it to yourself herself. That's a good point without much help you know right so it's like well it ain't broken We'll just just we'll just leave it there. I WANNA reach back why did the KGB recruit you versus the Stasi recruit you. I see Initially when when I first came out in public I I guess that my first recruiter who spoke with me only twice overstock. Because because he was German I since Had developed some reason to believe that the first guy was a German collaborator greater for the KGB. Not Tell you who planted that in me. And I don't think that information make made it into the books folks Into the book. Maybe it did but anyway my my best German friend happened to be a new joined the Stasi eh and he became a major in charge of the Forgery Department and and he pretty much knew that the Stasi did not recruit on behalf of the KGB. He indicated that he may have had something to do with the with me being quoted a aw because he was he was approached earlier than me he was already a member of the Communist Party at the age of eighteen in I joined I was twenty so he was a. He was an early target in an interesting situation. He a year ago gave his first interview. Radio Interview Fascinating what he observed particularly in the last weeks months. Oh of East Germany in how everybody was flying you know running. I'm for the hills. Just I can't even imagine the transition had to be so Razi I mean think about So you sat unnoticed coming. But I know that I know the mentality because I was part of that thinking you you always knew that the communist system was better. You wouldn't let go of that belief you adjust hoping and praying for a better set of leaders because leaders and and so and then and one day the option of better leaders had disappeared. And now if you're middle age mid forties maybe even fifty. You've realized that you know the the cars you joined the life you had lived was either wrong or you're being wrong in the worst way so either way it it was like being hit over the head with a two by four so in that respect I I I was lucky because I- decontaminated very slowly. I mean the cognitive dissonance. It's kind of like getting them now. Democrats or Republicans to agree that the other.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

06:44 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"Oh you know that I believe is stalling killed more people than Hitler. Yes what she this thing. They went when they were fighting the Nazis in the open field and it was just no turning back. If you if you turn back you would be killed by your own people. That that's how how that's how heroism was was forced. I was just like being sarcastic. They probably changed at a chain of command. Absolutely that is how that is is how the old men that were The head of the polit bureau have stayed effectively. Who couldn't stand straight anymore? Were still in power. That's why Stalin state and powerful too so long even though a lot of people knew that they were a in either evil or be totally dysfunctional. That's that is the extreme hierarchical system where you are not allowed to think and for yourself as if it goes against the mainstream sinking in ironically. What I learned from that is that was the most important difference since you know in terms of the battle? They're there to that was the first one and the advantage tactics wise that the US has it's a much looser command command. It's kind of like I want this objective. I don't really care how you get there but I kind of want that stuff there. And then that leaves a lot of choices to people down below. Yeah that's the way I used to manage the. That's the way I used to manage corporate America. I let I told my direct reports. Well this is. What the marching orders? This is how much resources you have go ahead and do did not. Everybody appreciated that. The ones that don't appreciate that kind of leadership style. The micromanaging insecure secure individuals. Who Know that? They don't belong where they are. That makes sense you kind of are contrary to the Soviet disciplined because you were sort of given that leash contrary I was I was given the freedom I I made. I Made Ninety percent of the decision. said the AH impacted my life as an agent myself. There was just no other way I had to make decisions. I couldn't ask my master's in even if I did through. You know. Communication of icy could riding in the mail that it just took way too long to get an answer back and it didn't know how to answer most of the stuff anyway. He is just one example. I think I put this in the book they. They didn't have a clue what it's like to live in the United States. And I I still remember. This is one of those moments when one of my handlers told me Jack and I wasn't they called me data than data is one one thing I gotta tell you when you get to New York you got to stay away from the Jews. That is laugh out loud funny right so so that means they. They really didn't know what they they were doing. And this is sort of think about it. It's almost like the keystone cops of of espionage. I am not saying the KGB was totally ineffectual ineffectual but most of their success is particularly at the time when I was operating out where achieved by walk INS by defectors actors from the United States or other countries for that matter the illegals program was totally ineffective. Really I wanted to ask. Have you had an opportunity to ever ever visit or speak with your counterpart who's a counterpart of I guess counterpart people who did your same job. Okay Yeah I met one and that was. That was very interesting so I I'm in Berlin Germany. visit the spy museum and I visit the museum together with Oj. They had just opened together with my son and his wife. And we are wondering around this guy and there's only a video of this guy who says you know I was an illegal agent agenda in the United States and I'm saying to my son I don't believe this guy so my son goes and looks up somebody in the office and ask. Is that that somebody else. Would you like to meet another one of those originals and they come out and introduce myself and so we established a relationship. In the next time I wasn't Berlin I was introduced to by the name of boycott. I won't give the last name because he is He's still semi-secret T.. Es doesn't want to be on public very much boycott went to the United States and he lived. He lived in New York City with his wife. He actually was able able to take his wife in a place called S Toria which was only about five miles of the place where I live. which was called is called Woodside? We didn't know about each other. A he came about five years after me and his only task was to just live in the United States red. I said to you know what I hate you because I had many other thanks to do I wanted to ask you about some of those. I know you wrote about flying to California and the professor that you you looked up but obviously without revealing things that may be secret. Can you give some general or mail take out the names or whatever you have to be curious some of the other things that maybe you didn't list Quite frankly there are none simply. That weren't too many of those tasks. And you see the one thing that was really really good at who was compartmentalization cassation. I was given just enough information to be able to operate which is not always a good idea. Because if you if you if if you don't you don't have a frame of reference very often you wind up making the wrong decision. And here's another thing. I found out I met a fellow fellow who lives in the United States now he he was a member of the. FSP GONNA office is. That's the new version of the KGB. We'll be right. Correct and the F. B. operates very similar to how the KGB operates because they weren't trained by KGB so you know what do you expect and he told me with reasonable certainty that there may have been only only one or two people in all of the KGB that really know my identity and most likely the individual who who made the high level decisions is about. You know where to send me what to do and what to ask me to do. Probably didn't know me by face. It seems wasteful. Yeah but it's that's how you keep a secret. Well yeah I mean the only way to keep a secret is to people.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

15:59 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"Sleep and and that stuck with me for for a long time and it's It's a it's a struggle that This the daily struggle not to come to it. And I can't. I can't pictured I can only intellectually imagine what you went through crew but the isolation that you feel or felt It had to be profound because you were literally truly a fish out of water all right. So here's the thing I slowly wandered into this isolation saying And that he used to it. It's like you know that frog that is in the blue water. Slow boil saying because because I actually grew up as an an extrovert. I was the class clown. I was the leader of a band. And you know I played basketball. I love my team. I I was a student leader. What instrument did you play in your band guitar and I sang because the other three guys didn't want to horrible? Remember when we made a lot of noise so then I moved from a place where there was a team but was basketball team at work in basketball will and I moved to Berlin all of a sudden I was by myself B because all my training was on one I didn't go to work and the the friends did I acquired. Were sort of part of work because my one of my tasks was to just get to know people that I don't know in Macomb mm-hmm into friends and and write profiles on them. This is part of what part of the training. Then they send Moscow. That was probably the worst two years of my life. Because you know I went to a country where I didn't speak the language I understood stood well enough to to get around no friends. Nobody the only people I met whether people that I was working so so as I entered the United States it was almost a relief because I could at least speaks the language which which which did not you know get me out of the lone wolf mentality because he you know the first year in the US. I didn't work so because I needed to get my documentation to be able to get a job so I spent one year living. I'm by myself in a hotel and so what I did in order to not to Raise any kind of suspicion I would get up in the morning. Leave the hotel at eight o'clock and don't come back until six. I did whatever went to the movies. I went to explore the city but but I really didn't didn't have anybody to talk to him. There was no provision made for me to have any kind of contact with voice with Moscow. The only contact was two shortwave. Radio and then I worked two years as a bike messenger now. That was a group that I couldn't really relate very well to which is probably elite. Good though because as you put it they didn't care about you either. Everybody was so into their own thing is that they wouldn't even notice. If you did slip up correct and I I just by sitting and waiting in the office for another delivery and listening to their conversation and then going you'll be finding another another dispatchers in going to the race track with him and you know hearing about sports and the Yankees the giants. I learned the basics basics of being an American in idioms and different. Oh absolutely absolutely you. This is the kind of stuff you just can't learn from a country and eventually you know The first the first time I became a member of a team that was when I had my first job by first professional job as a computer programmer. But I've never lost my lone wolf mentality which is not good because I have been trying my entire life to fix all my own problems problems and sometimes you need help. Oh absolutely and I did WANNA follow up on that with the effect that you went into the it world you have mentioned that you're very much core German and have kind of an abrupt or in your face. Personality like German and Dutch are known for having. Did it help that. You are working in the it world where you had some aspirin jerseys type of people who kind of a little off kilter socially quite often anyway and might have been abrupt themselves else. I can talk about this for at least in Alabama. I give you two examples where. It wasn't helpful helpful the way I communicated and and WED was. I spoke English perfectly. I write it better than most Americans I still have have a residual accent but that was easily explained My mother had a German maiden name so I was not aware of my communication style and I had worked at my company for about three four years and I was doing really well. I love programming and one day. A friend of mine takes me and I still remember that day. I even remember where I was. It was on the second floor at Novus an empty room. And he says Jack I gotTa tell you something I am not gonNA curse on. That's fine on your show. I gotTa tell you okay if I may use a mild curse word everybody thinks you're an asshole and I don't have a clue was talking about so I was trying to be less of an S. O. but I didn't know where this came from now. Here's here's the flipside of the coin. My first management job. I got hired to fix the situation in a place where I didn't I know the people didn't know the technology I didn't notice city I was picked out by a new manager. I hadn't I think you can do this. Come over here in fixed scope nope and in in that situation might direct communication style might brutal honesty. Cleaning House did did very very well and I had three more in succession situations like that. The only problem is once house was cleaned. I was not longer longer needed. I was not longer wanted so I I. I've been telling my wife how this works. You know I I used to get this. Initially Amandus guys is like a breath of fresh air and then after about a year year and a half the air got a little stale and after three years it was a foul stench that had to would be removed. You know what I think. You are actually very entrepreneurial in personality and and by that let me explain for second. I'm guessing that you enjoy creating something and then moving onto the next item because you're intellectually always seeking the next challenge idea cetera but sitting there in actually having to manage what's already existing or what you've created. This is your worst nightmare. Maybe not the worst But status quo. Yeah I had A. I had several interviews for for a new job where I got along really really well with the the decision maker and at the end they would say you know what we we. Don't we need somebody to manage the situation. You're a change your change agent you. You wouldn't workout. You're you're right. I like to go into a situation and fix stuff. You know away I should. I should have paid a little more attention to fixing me and we all everybody has has things that work and you had external forces to. That's why I definitely am sympathetic. Obviously haven't been and through it again talking to the folks in Cuba and learning them and in Cuba to I had a an individual who was marine as a US marine. WHO's a Russian? So so he moved to the states when you seventeen thereabouts and he had a funny story which I thought you can relate to. Are you familiar with the United States Marines and basic nick training. And I know I know some I know submarines okay. That's the toughest training that I could imagine. Well they have something about out there. They're footlockers as in their footlockers. had better be secure or I mean it. It's one of the biggest crimes you can do. All Hell break loose. And he talked about how he left his footlocker on locked in basic training. And the drill. Sergeant just lit him up bringing the whole platoon. What is wrong with you? And screaming at him and he had to explain that it was a combination lock and he didn't know how to work okay. Eh described the drill sergeant having been down on the floor and go and go left go right after screaming at them up and down and that made me think of your twist off bottle cap story. Yeah that's another moment that I remember. I'm very vividly. I believe and you know sometimes memories of false but I believe I said at a table with four chairs and I can picture exactly where it said in an how the way to cut came up when I wave them over Anita bottle opener and he he was looked at me like making trying to make fun of me and he took that bottle in slowly twisted the capital of with a floor. Yeah I mean maybe he was playing along maybe he was thinking. What an idiot Maybe they don't have bottled doc. Twist off bottles where he came from and I spoke already like ninety percent clean English at the time right now what I wanted to ask you were there any other instances like that that tripped you up because I know that one spy got caught because he was holding flowers upside down when walking on his side no I can't recall any similar situation but I I can. I could tell you a number of situations that coulda tripped me up but nobody ever paid attention like you. You try to make me play in a softball game and I look like an idiot. I can't I can't swing a bat now you you put a soccer ball in front of my the right foot and watch me kick the ball. Because I just can't help myself so this is all very deep in the DNA and this would require somebody with phenomenally sharp skills to observe But I I can't recall offhand now. Another situation that made me look that stupid. Oh maybe here's one one so I come to the US. And I. I live here for about three months. And I'm going out and I meet a girl and we have dinner and I paid for dinner and after I paid for dinner See us. Oh so what do you do for a living. I said I'm unemployed employed and I I say I set this with a sort of pride no insertions. That's the word that comes to mind. Okay like you know. Like I don't really care Gotcha. And she went like oh I should have known I would have paid for the dinner. I didn't quite quite relate to what unemployment means. I know that's interesting. It did some of that helped culminate or change your opinion over time because that right there would imply something very different than the greedy capitalist. Well you know I I had to learn viscerally. WHAT UNEMPLOYMENT IS A? Ah Anna and I it was just something theoretical now now what changed my mind. The greedy capitalists is the way My my first company treated me. And that's on the record so I might. As well mentioned. The name of the company was met life at the time a very Turner Listrik Mutual Insurance Company but they were so nice to their employees. I mean they were really nice. We had free lunch and they paid well. All in the atmosphere was good started changing my hardcore attitude towards capitalism. Yeah I talked to Different people behind the Iron Curtain Otakar clicky of former guest and she had talked about how they had made up jobs. Like she knew this She had a friend who her only job was at a is like a carpet factory career blanket factory. Something like that and her job was to just turn it over on the loom every past hour or so and she loves the job because he just sit there smoking and joking with Oliver Friend rent but there is a lot of hate to say BS jobs like that did you have that kind of situation with the Everybody employed all we did and not I have first hand experience We my generation and year after us were in experimental to kind of program in high school where they The Communists Lena's thought the you know the future of the country should be members of the working in class to learn how you know what it's like to be working class so we went to school for three weeks the out of the month and then we went to a factory. In this case it was a large combined works whether you know whether liquefied coal and generated electricity until four thirty smelling big big planned and we learned to be machinists and I swear to God at least craft guys who were standing around. I did nothing nothing because all it took these things were fully automated. All it took to supervise. What was going on? There was reading the gauges into making sure that everything's imbalance. We we we we eventually got so bored be was also shifted ball by we let so bored in the summertime sweet four of us as snuck out of the plan and hung out in the woods all day. Nobody noticed that we weren't there. They probably were happy to have fewer to manage. Well we learned that you really don't have to work hard to to get paid in existent country now that that did not apply to everybody. Because as weak as the sermon economy was it wasn't as bad as some others that means somebody must have produce. Something wow I i. I'm so blown away by that. And I spend a little time in the army and that's why I was in Cuba but I was out at Fort Irwin. And we used to train as the CO op four because it was sort of like a desert training but we studied Soviet tactics and I learned different things in there like one on the Soviet tactics were phenomenal. Probably better than anything in the world except they had such a dependency on a chain of command that they would be paralyzed on the field. Oh was part of that tactic also to shoot people in the back. I'm guessing that's possible where they did their World War Two..

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"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

16:20 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"Today's episode is with Jack. Barsky Jack Barsky has an incredible story of growing up in East Berlin and ultimately being recruited by the KGB to infiltrate the United States where he lived for a decade right under our noses. I think you're going to really enjoy This incredible interview where we talk about. Not only his living in the United States under another identity but the psychological logical implications in the toll the of taken on him so after you hear it. Tell me what you think can always reach out to me on twitter at unstructured P also on instagram under the same name or even facebook. But for now I'll bring you jack. Barsky my name is Eric. And this this is unstructured or we have dynamic informal conversations with some amazing people..

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"jack barsky" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

860AM The Answer

06:54 min | 2 years ago

"jack barsky" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

"Talking to Jack Barsky former KGB agent the book is deep under cover okay so you fall in love with this woman she's from Guyana she tells you I knee I'm not legal and I need to get married and she's willing to marry another guy but she's giving you first dibs what happens so if you did and you know at that point I I was so convinced that I was involved rebel that I could take the risk and take an illegal and make her legal because I got tired Val documentation and so and I and I did some research you know you know how that how that works with I. N. S. and then something else happened and this this was made made the the interview you had to show up for an interview made the interview real easy she got pregnant and when we showed up for the interview she was already visibly pregnant and the interview was not at all hostile it wasn't about you know describe you you know what your bedroom looks like and we we were prepared for all of this you know I was a trained agent and they know what to anticipate none of this was necessary so she became legal really legal being made illegal by an illegal hi sounds like chain migration all right so you on your now married I'm not married you have a child a child is born and my plan was still you know I have to go back because he is the other thing that that I haven't talked about yet I was actually married in Germany wait now wait a minute when you know what it just figures Albin you're talking to a spy they keep stuff from you I thought I thought we were friends Jack you when you say you were married in Germany right I'm now I'm really confused when in the world did you get married in Germany got married in Germany when I came back from the Soviet Union I had this girlfriend who I absolutely loved but not enough to say goodbye to the KGB so when when I departed for Moscow I broke up with all and then when I came back for a little while she found me and the love was rekindled at that point I spoke with could you be folks and they allowed me to marry her initially they thought they could send her with me but she would psychologically she wasn't capable to handle so you're living in America in America Mary known women in Germany and I have a son and and Germany as well in Germany but do you ever see your wife every two years I was excuse me but what kind of a life is that alright that's very strange she was willing to marry you was even though you're not going to be together yes check your nice guy but you're not that nice what I was much better looking I mean what what a crazy thing so now you're in America and now you're a bigamist yes you're cheating on your wife and then you decide to make it legal and you marry this woman now you're married to two women right this is getting very confused many getting circumstances I I I was a big in this with with a split personality I had I had really two two individuals in here and they didn't communicate very much yeah that doesn't legally I was still a big mess of obviously yeah but I mean if if you're living you know it's like when somebody spouse dies or something you don't see them for years they remarry right and then suddenly the person shows up it's like I didn't die you know it these kinds of things happen it's a strange thing to live all by yourself in a country by meet this woman you fall in love I mean I can only imagine how strange it would have been for you so what what do you do now what happens well what happens now you know it's it is so now I have a child he and I have a child there but I was could I mean clearly was was going back home join my German family that that was the plan that was your plan that was the plan so it's it's a year and a half might my after my daughter was born it's in in early December of nineteen eighty eight and that's your your daughter here in America my of my American daughters now eighteen months old the prettiest thing curtain you know big big eyes curly hair started talking already I was in love with this child more so than with any other person in my entire life that is the first time that I filled unconditional love toward somebody that hit me by surprise I was not prepared for that because this is I saw this girl grow up from you know being a small baby to eventually Hey any standing there anybody who's had a kid especially a father with a daughter yes it's like going from seeing a black and white to sing in color you think Hey what is this color stuff that's a completely different universe you underwent as their own flesh and blood to beautiful thing yes and so and this is when when the crisis came very suddenly I had to tell the KGB of which way I would go to work every day and we had to arrange for signal spot there so if I mean I don't have to wonder around someplace else is that by just going to work I would check this one spot see if there's a signal could be you call for a meeting or even the signal could signal and in this case they were graphical signals we did and we decided to make the dots with the with paint okay so little dot tells you what little dot could be a yellow dot would have been you have come to a meeting another one would be we cook confirming that a drop operation the red one was danger it out and it wasn't a little it was the size of a fist okay some of the leading this and where was this painted on the subway plaza where we plan it's the the subway in queens said see a trainer ran elevated the runs elevated for quite awhile yeah and it was on one of those posts that supports the the tracks on which station Sunnyside eightieth in Hudson five different okay right now it's not so so so one morning you know its that's early I go to work and I have a sleep and all of a sudden I see this red dot screaming at me okay we're gonna after that we were going to a break I think all right we're gonna be right back this is called the cliffhanger your soul is connected to your tablet your tablets connected to your laptop your laptop connected to your wifi one weak link in the star in the digital world is so.

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"Talking to Jack Barsky an amazing story the book is deep under cover my Secret Life entangled allegiances as a KGB spy in America so it's nineteen seventy eight and they are going to send you across the ocean to Canada first and your plan is to end up in Washington DC so how do how do they make this transition I need to correct to a two things Canada was a practice trip I returned to Moscow and about several months after I was loans to the United States directly indirectly through Yugoslavia Austria Italy Mexico into Chicago and from Chicago to New York and and and that was where I was going to operate in New York City from New York not in DC wow so why would they have taken such a secured his route to bring you I mean to go from Mexico from all the way you know to Mexico and I mean what's the what's the point of that to cover the trace you know you you can't follow me back into into Moscow in every every a new country that I entered I I have received another passport with a different name so you you could not possibly trace me back to Moscow that poll that was and it was super super super cautious but I never never once and and in my ten years made a direct trips between the Soviet Union and the United States it was a no no okay so you you end up finally you end up in New York right and where do you settle in New York well initially I had nothing I had the birth certificate right so with that you don't go very far even in those days you need some ID so the only place I could possibly stay was in one of those hotels where you pay by the month that wasn't very nice there was a lot of shady characters but not not that your shady no I Russian spy but it it it's interesting I would have I would not and could you be could supply you with this stuff but you're sort of on your own you have absolutely no I I I was completely on my own was calm I was given instructions and a task but nobody checked on me nobody gave me any any help there were no meetings there was a a I was on my own I was deep undercover that's good so that's why the book is titled the correct cover of so my first my first test was and that they gave me about two years to acquire genuine American documentation primer and primarily a driver's license and what is it was a really important a social security card so you can get to get a real job and I got that in my first job I worked as a bike messenger in Manhattan I couldn't take my resume when I waiting how old are you at that time no I was eleven when I started as a bike messenger was twenty nine in nineteen seventy eight you're driving around Manhattan as a bike messenger seventy nine that's correct and I was one of the best yeah okay wonderful all right so you you you work your way up obviously but I mean this is just crazy that here you are do you have any friends were you able to make friends well initially no until I had a real job I stayed away from people I have to you know because again first thing they ask you so what do you do for a living I'm unemployed you know so it was a lone ly existence for a good year a little over a year and even as a bike messenger you know you got to be really careful the I didn't fit the profile you know it's very hard to hi all German well this is it yeah it's it's hard to hide your intellect so initially I didn't make a lot of friends but I went back to college I went to to study at pearl college and that's when hi no collected a lot of friends huh all younger than me but yeah no wow can I chased all the girls okay none of them well I think you're married now aren't you so you eventually got one but not on that side of the divide all right so you're under cover your your work in that what happens what's the first it was the first thing that you test to do well the most important thing in it and that I was never explicitly told but the most important thing for them was the fact that I was here I lived here as a bona fide American that means I was able to do things that the diplomats buys couldn't do they had restrictions as far as how far they could travel out outside of DC and New York Florence is one time I had a test to to go check on a person in California who I didn't know who who he was I was given a name and they asked me was check if he's still there and you know what's address and phone number and so forth well he was a a person who had defected from the KGB and was honored the death sentence knew he died from natural causes but the you know this kind of stuff that he actually die from that yes yes he did but he defected from the KGB California no no no he he defected to I don't know when that was a long time ago he he defected and West Germany and then it was too that does some somebody actually tried to kill him there he escaped and then he was expelled traded into the United States and and was teaching he was teaching actually at the university of California in San Bernardino Mike forgot his name just now well but anyway so I could I was able to do things like that yeah god forbid they they were preparing for situation when diplomatic relations would be cut off completely and all and all the personnel and half half the U. N. personalidad here half the embassy they will KGB they will be gone who who was left there were ten of us that they send and that's that's information it was actually obtained from the KGB archives ten illegals that they sent out and that was that the most important value that they still had somebody here number one number two I was supposed to you know get close to you know those decision makers in foreign policy that was a problem because my standing in society was not such right that you can just you know go up to Colombia university and the and hang out with people who who who operate in the the in the institute for foreign relations right right that didn't work I did not succeed in that right so what did you do that you know you came over in seventy eight your bike messenger in seventy nine at what point I mean your story gets really crazy and we should probably know that because I wanna make sure you get to tell the story but when you decide to leave I'd read died in the whole thing right let's I got it I got it just tore one other thing in this is really crazy because I I told you I went back to college and my ambition ran away with me and I graduated as valedictorian all stop at the root yes okay KGB spy is valedictorian at Beirut I guess I'll add you ation speak what year what year it was in nineteen eighty four all my at the felt forum yeah you know the reason this is funny is that I have to think that you are even though technically you are a KGB agent you are also living as an American and it had to have an effect of course around so what happened did you get to see the upside of freedom is somewhat I think when it hit me that the capital capitalism is not such a bad thing is when I had my first job as a professional I worked at it started working at MetLife as a computer programmer and the people were all nice and we got free lunch and they paid me well and the work was good and my colleagues were nice so you know I was wondering what happened to the evil insurance companies that we were you know told the heard about yeah so so I I got to a point where I develop sort of a neutral stance you know in between maybe we can mix it together you know get a little better economically and get but get more freedom in the east yeah and there was a there was a a strand in the in this and social Democrat movement in Europe they they they call they had came up with that theory will call called convergence theory and I sort of bought into it but I was still loyal to my employer hi I had no in I had no plans to defect I had no plans to net this is in the book right it was that you were the valedictorian yes yeah it is all areas this absolutely Hiller's okay so what happens after that when do you when do you store when you get into trouble okay so I and I know started working at MetLife yeah I work for four years I had my career was going really well I was making good money but something else happened you know me I was still young man and you know you you can't live in society and pretend to be one of them and not do things other people do and you know does biological urges so I was looking for girlfriends and one of them was really really really safe I thought because she was from South America from Guyana and so she wouldn't have figured out that something was not quite right right with me she she didn't have a lot of education she didn't know how the how the United States work really well but one day she came to me as as a which you have a problem if I get married to another guy has is what the heck you're talking about and then she confided well I'm really illegal here I need to marry somebody to become legal and a clearly that was an indirect question to the another words out I'll give you first dibs Charlie be right back talking to Jack Barsky the book is deep under cover what a story with.

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"Eight AM the answer folks I'm talking to Jack Barsky not Israel or is it is real name Jack Barsky now it is your real name isn't it is my legal name but you grew up as the take very well said Dr sale well it really it's amazing that you have lived this life and you know as I said I have relatives who who lived today in what was the former East Germany in all my German relatives almost so there but you were getting to this exciting part in the story now so you are sitting down in this restaurant with a member of the K. G. B. and he doesn't reveal himself but then he says we're working with our Russian friends of course East Germany in those days was effectively you know a Russian satellite there's no question about a part of the Soviet union's empire evil empire in the words of Reagan so what happens you sit down and you know when he says we're working with him on this a friend from Russia you know this is something's going on well the little German and he was a short guy the then new said goodbye as as you you you're going to be walking along his any Erman and you know there was no choice for nothing he just disappeared I never knew his name you never had he had never introduced himself and even with the first name you know what it's about time Jack I was a guy that was you don't remember well you know number no actually you're much better looking than a law wow I don't want to know about that okay so you've now your loan you're sitting here with a Russian guy right what happen very nice fellow yeah and he spoke group German quite well and you know this was a very very slow getting to know one another what they were looking at me from the beginning was getting me trained and launching me as an agent is on the cover agent initially in West Germany so those kinds of people you really have to get to know you need to know whether you can trust them are they capable of doing this and and and it's a it's a two way street the prospective agent also needs to be comfortable with that task you don't for somebody into that you can force spying by you know blackmailing and and bribery for somebody Worley has secrets but as an agent who goes into a meal in behind enemy territory needs to do this voluntarily so the I work with this fellow for a year and a half and it was some he gave me some some training tasks and we talked a lot we became really good friends I like them a lot do you like me to know what was his name was Armand hammer yeah one point I made a made a mistake I asked him this is your real name get him on and he looked at we was angry with me for that because I mustn't that was a no no question you know it was old secret but anyway he like me well enough and I I guarantee you we met once every week on sometimes every other week every time we met he wrote a report and it became a big fight I mean this is exactly like out of a movie and somebody you probably talking to people about rights to your book number I sold them he sold the rights yes to do a series not a movie to do even better yeah gosh well that's exciting well I got to say that I just want you to keep talking so please continue with the story so and as I said he'd like me well enough eventually he set me up before meeting with headquarters of that with headquarters in Berlin that was my very first secret meeting so he I had a I was given an address and a time at a location where would meet another agent I was another Russian so when we I don't know what the the what code words said we exchange so too so we know we were both who we thought we were yeah and he took me into headquarters you know that this is a place where normally Germans will have no access to swear that there was headquarters of the the Soviet administration including the KGB what part of Berlin I we talked belly cults host yeah it's a it's a it's the building still stands as a good tipper sure it's ugly green if yes greenish Craig pretty ugly yeah like a monster yeah so and we we are received there in a in an office that was decorated with me in on the line and pictures and and a bust of the the founder of the KGB now what's his name the Polish guy I jin ski gin scary I don't know yeah okay it in the another short like on important looking man sat behind the desk the moment he opened his mouth you know that he was not an unimportant man is as a voice of steel came out of an area hi authority he spoke only Russian now my Russian was sort of my school Russian was good enough to understand most of what he was saying there was a lot of you know initial propaganda know why we're doing this and who the enemy is all that nonsense and then he switched gears like out of the blue he looked at me and he says so are you in or not not with a smile and I wasn't prepared for that question I didn't know what that was coming so I was just trying to play for time I wasn't ready to answer so I said well you know I'm not really well trained I got to learn this I got a line that and he said don't worry about it will train you I want an answer and I want an answer by tomorrow at noon wow that made for sleepless night because it was not an easy decision you know on the one hand you know I might might yeah not become my home town I loved it there I mean I played basketball on the university team I had friends and and I had this career and I was glad I was already somebody and I would have to say goodbye to all of this forever forever pretty much and thought over again it's not it's not yet we're going to go to another break I'm talking to Jack Barsky sort of his real name the book is deep under coverage here cut taxes show.

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"The tax issue nine seventy the answer the who is he's in the plural of people this is hippopotami what's the floor of my taxes the tax would tax eighty four maybe much taxes anyway I'm just glad there's only one of them in here is Texas is much comment on that thank the lord I am sitting here to continue my conversation with Jack Barsky Apsley fastening story at the time of the book is deep undercover my Secret Life and tangled allegiances as a KGB spy in America we haven't gotten to that really crazy part of the story yet Jack Barsky we were talking about your training as a KGB agent you're in Berlin they're giving you all these assignments and so on and so forth and you study English teaching writing led by at what point do you do they realize that they may want to use you are learned I mean because I still cannot believe that they sent you as a bona fide KGB spy to live in America among us this is a great I like it and you tend to have been born here the the the on that that is really they may well SO so let's go back so I feel a KGB agent in training with us last left off yeah and I study English like a maniac I threw myself into this and I I didn't know it then but I know it now I I have talent to to learn learn the language yes yeah in so about a year into this study with the couple of the successively more demanding tutors I was already reading English literature fluently we had a visitor from Moscow one day and he would as massaging within this I showed him a book I read this no problem is all cut a tape so I cut a tape descended to Moscow what do we kind of take your tape of you speak English me speaking with say something make make a tape grow ten minutes talk about whatever and they flew me to Moscow and I was interviewed by and born American somebody who had a migrated to Moscow that solidarity be honest with was a Bernie Sanders the honest because this phone was his wife okay so brilliant you know that Bernie Sanders did his his honeymoon has it in Soviet Moscow I know that's not a joke yeah I know that in but it I think it may have been after my time yeah it was after your time it was in in eighty two so anyway you came here he went there was a trade right but seriously you you spoke English so well that they knew we can use you in some way they thought it might be worth trying at the time I was pretty good and they they figured that was the day of the American lady and there was also a college professor and they had a power well and eventually said let's give it a try so now when you say that wasn't there was an American woman yeah here now what is an American woman doing in Moscow working for the Soviets what's the scene she was married to a Russian most likely she fell in love with the KGB guy and and thought she would follow him to the promised land the poor woman was miserable she was she did not have a good life and yeah he was he she moves back guarantee home sick anyway she became my tutor I moved to Moscow I I met her twice a week for two years I also had the opportunity to work with to Americans who spied in the forties and early fifties they were part of the Roseburg network holy cow comics bye Morrison on a call in and so me I had a lot of opportunity to speak to improve my my English and and every night before going to bed I did phonetics exercises boring as hell it's a half hour you listen to a word you repeated listening repeat I got to a point where I can still hear my axe and but for New York it was good enough and particularly since my birth certificate says my mother's name was Schwartz so the the the cover story was that you know I spoke German growing up in web for bilingual right then you know something you're your accent I mean I have relatives you know who right up in America and they have a little if you grow up speaking German you do have you can you can hear something in the background okay so that's you're going to be a cover story hi I hear I hear my own accent again and recording yeah sure what happens well so after all together five years and you know a practice run I was I spent three months in Canada just getting to know what it's like to live in junior United States what kind of funny they sent you to Canada yeah well prepare you right and eventually it was a it was lunch time a resident agent in Washington DC had found there this was typical for the operations of this is how they stole and entities they would want one around in graveyards and look for Greystones of children who died very early and then a choir person to for kids and those names and so one of the the agents in DC found Jack Barsky who was born in nineteen forty four and passed away and nineteen fifty three and so a kid yeah a kid who died and they know that that they can use that identity yeah it's also amazing to think of the KGB spies hanging out living in DC already I mean I want to be naive but it's it's an amazing thing when you think that those people were here when they're still here they're just now F. S. B. and as we are and you know this is a rush yeah yeah that that that has not changed anyway so he acquired a birth certificate and so now we worked on a cover story because I would enter the United States at the age of like thirty or so what have I done up to that point you know it's six pages worth of like you know so they give you a fake background well this is this is your pre or what they call it I can think of yeah story what what I need to get axed what I did yes what I did get from from New York this is people go running around taking pictures of factory for instance that was in ruins well it could have worked schools where I could have gone to school but everything else is pretty much was my own fiction you came up with that he yeah yeah sure no no no so you came up with a a plausible backstory claiming that you grew up in America right and so where did you grow up in America according to the Baxter was born in orange New Jersey and then my my my my father passed away I was I was just two years old we we kill them off right away yeah and then my mother moved to New York and I grew up in New York City where in New York City upper Manhattan I was just gonna say because that's what the Germans and that's where Henry Kissinger grew up out of the gym there was German yeah the little we seize of of ethnic groups and that sounds quite plausible so you grew up in you know in men whatever that area right okay so this is a back story you have to memorize this and and children right away I and I never I never used any of it other than that my mother's my mother was German and I grew up speaking German everything else I didn't need but you didn't know you had to have it just in case just in case okay so you know you're going to be sent to America I mean at some point you realize this well my future once once I I made the move to Moscow to to to to learn English yeah perfection quote unquote perfection and it was clear that the target at change from West Germany to the United States and did you have a choice in this I loved it you allow absolutely okay after that you get that was enemy number one it's a big a task okay okay you know me I I had a I wasn't very much interested in West Germany I would have easily gone to Italy or France or even England but America that was there was a yeah the big one yeah and also the irony that you're you're trapped and now you get to escape legally right get to go someplace without what you what yeah okay so at what point so so what is your job another was before they send you in nineteen seventy eight behind enemy lines what it what is your job what do you thinking you're going to be sent to do what's the point of where you're going well I was trained to do political espionage in other words what what they thought they wanted me to do was to get to know decision makers and foreign policy or for answers okay we're gonna get another break focus this is and what a story the book is deep undercover Jack Barsky and this is there for taxes so do not go.

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"That is real or is it is real name Jack Barsky now it is your real name is and it is my legal name but you grew up as the take very well said Dr Sam well it really it's amazing that you have lived this life and you know as I said I have relatives who who live today in what was the former East Germany in all my German relatives almost so there but you were getting to this exciting part in the story now so you are sitting down in this restaurant with a member of the K. G. B. and he doesn't reveal himself but then he says we're working with our Russian friends of course he's Germany in those days was effectively you know a Russian satellite there's no question about a part of the Soviet union's empire evil empire in the words of Reagan so what happens you sit down and you know when he says we're working with him on this a friend from Russia you know this is something's going on well the little German and he was a short guy that then said goodbye as as you you're going to be what we live hand along his any Erman and you know there was no choice or nothing he just disappeared I never knew his name you never had he had never introduced himself and even with the first name you know what it's about time Jack I was a guy that was you don't remember what you know number no actually you're much better looking than a law well I don't want to know about that okay so you've now your loan you're sitting here with a Russian guy right what happen very nice fellow yeah and he spoke group meeting German quite well and you know this was a very very slow getting to know one another what they were looking at me from the beginning was getting me trained and launching me as an agent as an undercover agent initially in West Germany so those kinds of people you really have to get to know you need to know whether you can trust them are they capable of doing this and and and it's a it's a two way street the prospective agent also needs to be comfortable with that task you don't for somebody into that eight you can force spying by you know blackmailing and and bribery for somebody who only has secrets but if an agent who goes into a mail in behind enemy territory needs to do this voluntarily so the I work with this fellow for a year and a half and it was some he gave me some some training tasks and we talked a lot we became really good friends I like them a lot you like me to know what was his name was Armand hammer yeah one point I made a made a mistake I asked him is is your real name get him on and he looked at we was angry with me for that because I mustn't know was a no no question you know it was old secret but anyway he like me well enough and I I guarantee you we met once every week on sometimes every other week every time we met he wrote a report and it became a big fire I mean this is exactly like out of a movie and somebody you're probably talking to people about rights to your book number I he's sold them you sold the right yes okay to do a series not a movie to do even better yeah gosh well that's exciting well I got to say that I just want you to keep talking so please continue with the story so in as I said he'd like me well enough eventually he set me up before meeting with headquarters and I was headquarters in Berlin that was my very first secret meeting I had a I was given an address and a time at a location well would meet another agent I was another Russian so when we I don't know what the the workload worse at the exchange so different so we know we were both who we thought we were yeah and he took me into headquarters you know that there is a place where normally Germans will have no access that's where that the was headquarters of the the Soviet administration including the KGB what part of Berlin are we talked betting calls host yeah it's a it's a it's the building still stands as a good tipper sure it's ugly green if yes greenish gray pretty ugly yeah like a monster yeah so and we when we are received there in a in an office that was decorated with me on the line and pictures and and a bust of the founder of the KGB now what's his name the Polish guy I jin ski jin ski I don't know yeah yeah okay it and did another short like mom on important looking man sat behind the desk the moment he opened his mouth you know that he was not an unimportant man there's always a voice of steel came out I'm in very high authority he spoke only Russian now my Russian was sort of my school question was good enough to understand most of what he was saying there was a lot of you know initial propaganda know why we're doing this and who the enemy is all that nonsense and then he switched gears like out of the blue if he looked at me and he says so are you in or not and not with a smile and I wasn't prepared for that question I didn't know what that was coming so I was just trying to play for time I wasn't ready to answer so I said well you know I'm not really well trained I got a line this I got a line that and he said don't worry about it will train you I want an answer and I want an answer by tomorrow at noon wow that made for sleepless night because it was not an easy decision you know on the one hand you know I might might yeah not become my hometown I loved it there I mean I played basketball on the university team I had friends and and I had this career and I was glad that I was already somebody and I would have to say goodbye to all of this forever forever pretty much all over again it's not it's not yet we're going to go to another break I'm talking to Jack Barsky sort of his real name the book is deep under coverage here cut taxes show Hey folks with axes.

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"jack barsky" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"But first two very important questions have you ever tried to stick models were wearing boxing gloves also did you know that marigolds into radiance hate each other and now your host I didn't know that goals and dreams hate each other but you know what there is a whole flower society in the world of plants they have like the Capulets and Montagues the sharks in the jets and I keep forgetting that their whole classes of of flowers that despise the big feud with other flowers all the time to get into that right now history so axis so it's a little crazy here Calvin is mopping up we spill some water in your mopping it up with an Eric my taxes show T. shirt outside absorbent SO absorbent really you're buying them to demonstrate holes the absorbency yeah of most of that stuff get all that has up your name of the show I want to remind us go head on well actually I've been in a few minutes to date we're talking to a former KGB spy movie and honestly I've met him before we've talked before but this is the first time in the studio so we're gonna be able to get it you know when you too and it's such an amazing story so stick around we've got the better part of both hours today anime is just an amazing story now I gotta tell ya man there's a lot of junk on the table here in the night well I don't I look at more closely and they say it's not junk no it's high quality stuff look this is an Eric my taxes show hat okay this is another Erica taxes show hat okay there's a T. shirt there were not any that one focusing went to other T. shirts we this is the grand prize mugs set easily spill over here all these look at these dogs with the grand prize for our food for the for the poor campaign is getting so big it's like the mega millions were gets bigger and bigger and bigger yes but all you need to do to win all of this is give anything to food for the poor you go to you go to my taxes talk dot com your Mattacks talked a calm you click on the banner there's a crisis in Latin America now this is a serious crisis and it's a serious issue but we're trying to have some fun enticing you to give and give big every fifty dollars you give gets you another chance to win all of this okay but even if you give twenty dollars you get a chance everybody gets one chance if you win all of this you're gonna blush because you're gonna say one of my gonna do this is a level of swag yeah that the world has never seen never this will make the world tremble it'll make your neighborhood tremble when they see this arrive at your house but we have everything you can imagine here we have signed copy of hard cover Bon Hafer signed by the author we're gonna get him signed copy of hard cover miracles okay sign cover hard cover Amazing Grace sign cover signed copy of if you can keep that we're gonna do this is that the soft cover we may find a hard cover too now here's where it gets crazy we're so they're signed copies of all of my books here okay I mean I I used to see almost everything here were thrown in all kinds of other stuff this is the deluxe the eighty dollar leather bound Griffin edition version of my Bon offer book this is you want to talk about a gorgeous gift that you can't possibly gonna need a refrigerator box to send the esprit our problems we are system made a signed copy of my book seven men yes a signed copy of my book everything which ones are like I prayed to ask a signed copy of my book no pressure Mister president with photographs a signed copy of my book Socrates in the city okay it goes on and on and on on the a couple of albums state are there yeah if you look a little closer yeah the album also has written a number of books in the hamster homes series we will send you those signed by the author thank you okay but then we have a number of books that were actually I forgot Donald van just want three copies of that one three copies of the sequel Donald bills the wall yet so no you don't even have it yeah you don't even have a you're going to get it here it's time to sleep my love a lullaby by yours truly yeah I read little by somewhat nor make something of it Hey all right a copy of Amazing Grace in the German language bore and I will sign it in the German language a copy of Bon Hafer Albert are you ready for the ready I'm ready everybody knows I hate the Dutch you can yet look my book by numbers been published in Dutch gestural tall good looking blonde I hate you they're all reform they live in grand rapids but you know what I'm gonna put my my ill feelings aside and we're going to sweeten the pot with a huge Dutch translation of my bone of a book and I will sign it in Dutch well look at the pile gets bigger and bigger and bigger get scary okay we also have a copy of the S. Bentleys beyond are limited by Alvin seder yeah I mean it's getting crazy will sign that often I'm gonna say okay copy of cost of the subject by Bon Hafer he can't sign it but I will sign it I wrote the foreword to this book but it gets crazier Shannon bream spoke a copy machine and brings book you want to read that there it is today yeah right now we're just gonna Jack your ski up he just happened leave behind a copy of his book and we're going to send that to you as well and by the way who doesn't want a Chinese language copy of Bon Hoffer being go I will sign it also in Chinese that's okay with you and you're gonna get all this stuff and and we really their stuff that we haven't even mentioned because we have time Albert are you gonna sweeten the deal I sweeten the deal already without box of lucky charms oaks this is a box of those all the little lucky charms for the you know that this box according to Chris Cuomo this box is the equivalent of the N. word against Irish immigrants top of the morning to you yeah James o'keefe actually he got started because he he he protests that lucky charms at his college she said it was on you know what let Neil not all Irish people are lucky I mean my parents came here my grandparents came here to fix this for the past family years they're actually I'm sorry we don't seem to be enough time you're going to get all this stuff your you're gonna get he's my caveman down the caveman buttons you're gonna get all this stuff and basically what you're going to do is you can have a tax sale and make millions off of this because everything here is like twenty Bucks per item at least for design and we got to have to have a step so why are we doing all this stuff folks because we want to entice you to give to a great cause food for the poor is helping families in Columbia not North Carolina Columbia South America they are refugees they have no food this is a horrible situation we can help them this is an amazing thing we can do something about this right the government's not going to do anything so you have to go to taxes talk dot com if the government taxes talk dot com you see the banner anything you give folks you get one chance to win this every fifty dollars you give you get another chance of give two hundred dollars not you will get four chances to to win all of this stuff and by the way anybody you gives to a dollars gets a signed copy of my new book Donald bills the wall anybody gets to it always gets that but you also get four chances to win anybody giving five dollars gets to visit the studio you can bring all your friends we love to do that you know will give you free books we give you all kinds of stuff but you gotta get five dollars for that anybody who can give ten thousand dollars I always say this for charities I believe and I will have dinner with you if you like Alvin will come along yeah he doesn't eat much for another dollar in ten thousand one outcome we would love we would love to spend time with you people give to these organizations that generously I want to thank you personally and you know if you come to New York or I'm coming to your city will work that out the details of that but and I can be as many people as you want you can say Hey I'm gonna bring ten friends and we'll do it in Dallas or something I get the Dallas whatever we can do in New York but we can do that it'll be a fun thing you're giving to a great cause it's important that everybody give something that's why we're saying anybody gives anything you get your chance to win all of this stuff it is hilarious yeah and this is only the ball right it goes on and on it you know you're gonna do it you got to like give it to your school for an auction or something like that and they'll you know try to raise money and how the race and doesn't hours for an auction item at some schools and it's just a lot of stuff here I want to say that there is a website my taxes talked a calm you know about that even if you go to Eric my taxes dot com okay you go to Eric my taxes the coming click through to the radio website but you'll see the thing crisis in Latin America you can give their if you go to Eric Metaxas dot com I want to tell you you can sign up for the newsletter yeah I forgot to mention that although he was dead in the newsletter and night on TV end it's the wink Martindale well that's tonight's interview six PM eastern time on or off Sunday yeah this is a forty second of tennis right the forty second anniversary of the death of Elvis Presley so that was the night tonight on TV and watch that let me give you the phone number in case you're inclined when we come back we're talking to Jack Barsky right here in the studio the KGB agent for many years you won't believe his story the number.

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