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Spring football kickoff & mailbag!

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51:01 min | 3 months ago

Spring football kickoff & mailbag!

"Welcome to the audible presented by trader. Joe's i'm stewart mandel join as always by respell. What feels like the slowest week in a long time in college football you you have anything bruce to get us started here to to to energize the contract conversation to i know that the super bowl has just ended But we got the season season the spring season about to kick off this weekend and i for one am very excited There's a good story in their mcneese state in louisiana as probably on board more hardships than maybe any other program you know even in light of the pandemic because on top of the pandemic they endured to natural disasters hurricane laura devastated lake charles louisiana I talked to frank wilson. Who's the head coach. There are a lot of s. Sec fans probably remember him. He was a lsu assistant as well as at ole miss On southern miss and within the utsa head coach and he pointed out. It's been four hundred forty five days since that program last played a game and what was pretty You know adding into the destruction and being relocated and and not having a place. They basically were staying in hotels till very recently They add twenty one players. Leave the program. Because as he put it he said you know we had the basically recruit guys you know in the program. Because i'd only been there a couple of months and then the pandemic had so they didn't really know us so as he put it We lost our best defensive player to taxes. That story done. They lost the best defensive lineman to syracuse and other player to hawaii. Another good player to two lane and it's been a scramble One other interesting note. The quarterback of the team is the son of at Coach ron who started in twenty nineteen so they played tarleton state. It'll be on the road in texas saturday afternoon. Very excited to watch so that is basically the week zero of this spring. Fcs's the only game this week. Everybody comes back next week and for fps fans or people who wanna get into this who've never watched ups yes before we will be doing a pretty extensive series on the athletic. Next week i get you primed for the season. Unfortunately i very disappointed to see that. Not almost none of these games actual tv. They're on espn plus There wasn't announcement the other day. That data jackson state of dion sanders. That the at least one. If not more games might get picked up by. Espn you but The notion back in the fall that like this. They're going to get there more in the sun and they'll be the only one on on tv Is not really how it's play out yet. But we'll see i'm very curious to see One curious to see if there's a lot of interest in it that they would normally get in the fall because the only ones playing like north dakota state is usually overshadowed by alabama in ohio state and everybody else but just you know there was a time last summer during the uncertainty that we thought At least two conferences the big ten pac twelve after plano spring. So let's let's see how this little experiment works with them playing a fairly short season In the next couple of months and then coming back and playing a regular season in the fall definitely i mean i think summing up of the weirdness of is that remember north dakota state played a game in the fall when trae lance was still a quarterback and now they're starting their actual season trae lances about drafted so those rosters that that is a obviously north dakota state as a a great program but those rosters were gutted especially in the missouri valley which has has produced so many players and i talked to an assistant. Coach in that league A couple of weeks back to like you know how this ramp up is going because it was one of those things when people were talking about it it got some attention but then as it's kind of you know gone into it. I think people either got wrapped up in certainly in the end of the nfl season and the end recruiting and whatever elson again. Most of the best players in that league ended up getting poached somewhere or another You know going onto fbs programs and so they really really got unless they depleted but You know you look at south dakota state. We did their game a couple years ago. They almost beat minnesota in the opener. K johnson their best player. He was at the senior bowl. You know he didn't play this past year. It's not just trae. Lance north dakota state lost their best offensive lineman who was also in the senior bowl They're running back transferring to western kentucky illinois. State's best defensive lineman went to charlotte young's towns best defensive end win. Virginia attack northern iowa had two big time players In the senior bowl as well. And so i think pure strong. The running back at south dakota state is really one of the few kind of More high profile. Fcs players who who stayed in there is going to be playing right now so one other bit of news. We wanted to touch on that. It is came out of nowhere. The jacksonville jaguars announced their new coaching staff on thursday morning which is a series of tweets. And drop in. There was a name college. Football fans might remember from some events last summer crystal. I was strength. Coach under kirk fairness for two decades until this past summer when a whole bunch of four players came out and accused him of racist statements and mistreatment of players. It wasn't one player or two players. I mean it was many and Yeah urban meyer discuss that in there morning. His new head of of his head strength coach. Let's actually technically. It is his director of sports performance. i wanted to get into this a little bit Into more detail because as you know as the news got out this morning as they released it. And i was about to just treat out. Urban meyer's hired is put former was he. You know in my head. I was like he was. He was fired. But then i was like no technically. He wasn't fired. I know he got a pretty big settlement from From iowa and so i talked to our iowa. Beat writer scott. Dr men whose as much of an authority on that is everything. And i'm going to actually read and scott if you're just seeing the seeing this now Scott andy staples have a story that went up. As we're taping and so this doctrine iowa reached a one point one million dollars. Separation agreement on june fifteenth ten days after dozens of allegations surfaced over the longtime strength coach's role in fostering a bullying culture overall racial insensitivity. Those facts were verified in a summer long investigation by an outside legal firm What is also indisputable. Scott continues right. Is doyle's prowess building football players. He was college football games. Highest paid strength coach for a reason several. Nfl players return to iowa city after each season to train with him. And he has had several staunch defenders and scott puts it doyles recognized. His past. behavior was unacceptable question. The jaguars betting that he has Yeah this is. This is definitely a controversial. Or at least polarizing higher For urban meyer as he goes into the nfl it would've been. It would've raised eyebrows if any nfl team named him to that that high role But of course if it's urban meyer. I mean there was. They had a press conference. He said they that he fully vetted the higher. Of course you're gonna take that with a grain of salt when we talk about urban and vetting hires I don't think he gets the benefit the doubt at this point after the zacks misinformation at the end of the day. Like we can tweet about a comment about it. It's not our opinion that matters. How how Black players on the jacksonville jaguars. These are pro athletes not college athletes. Who are afraid to you know. I mean we heard over and over. These players didn't feel like they could speak up when they were adwa because college athlete fairly powerless in the grand scheme of things but an nfl player. Who's paid millions of dollars in has a platform is not gonna feel shy about speaking up If something happens so yeah. It's it's frustrating because it just feels like time and again you see somebody fired for very troubling allegations. And they just they find the new land. If they're if they're respected by the coaches they find another landing spot immediately. Meanwhile yet again. The story of the coaching carousel and both college. Nfl ashir is that black coaches can't get head coaching jobs. Eric be enemy being the chiefs. Oc being the most prominent example. But he's not alone so Very frustrating I'm not saying that crystals never worked in football again. I don't know if that's necessarily the case. That's a pretty cushy job he just landed won't definitely a is definitely a big job he got and it is. It's going to be interesting to see again. If what will be the reaction from the players that he works with and know. We'll see. Because i mean again now you're dealing with grown men. It's going to be different dynamic but you know again. That's that's Was definitely a for for people who follow college football. It was a kennedy. Did a double take when you saw that name. Attached especially like you said to urban meyer. The to remind part is is the key component there. Because i don't again. I don't think so you name. Another random coach's manual had hired him. Does this get anywhere near the attention. You think i think people would be really surprised as matt rural hired him But i don't know that it would be the instant headline that it is when it's urban meyer. And in that due to his track record right. I mean not just that he's a big name and obviously there's been a lotta hit. He was going to get a lot of attention this year. Going from new national champs coach to to nfl for the first time but because what happened was x. Men stu back to the podcast in a moment but now a word from one of our latest sponsors to join us stew. No one is great at something the first time they try it like remember the first time you tried to play the guitar. I'm guessing you weren't as good as you were when you were tearing it up in your college band well. If you're unfamiliar with investing getting started can be very intimidating. Lord knows it would be for me wealth front. Does the work for you. So you can invest like an expert from the beginning. Wealth front creates dated investment portfolios of diversified low cost index funds personalized. Just for you to open your account. All you need is three minutes and five hundred dollars to invest. There are no manual trades. No watching the stock market and no more managing the details while fronts. Technology does it for you. Based on inputs you control wealth. 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Sharps berg georgia versus do jt daniels. Four games albeit with through four against lower level sec. Teams george averaged seven point five yards per play which would have been good enough for a top five finish that metric over the entire season. You think those four games will prove precision prussians. I don't like that word. Or will we look back on them. S pools gold That is a good question Jt daniels performed better than the buzz was about him. Going into the season around georgia. So i think some of this also could be you had. They had to rebuild an offensive line. They didn't have much back of guys who played on offense and new offense coordinator so maybe it also took the you know the parts around him some time to gel. I think I don't wanna go all the way on this on on this in this offense Todd mahnken came in with you know a really strong reputation. And i think it took them some time to to kind of get rolling You know. I think sometimes people look at jt daniels and they see while he was a five star. Recruit coming out of our quarterback factory at modern day. So i think any had some good moments in as a true freshman at usc. I'm i think he's a good quarterback. I don't anticipate people talking about him. Where he's going to be a all american or that he is going to be a you know a a know first round pick kinda guy i i mean they have really good receivers now because now those george pickens no longer you know. He was a second year player last year. Now he's got more time they have. They have some good young receivers who got settled in last year. And so i think they'll they'll take. They'll continue to take a step forward. But i do not think we're going to see the lsu offense like twenty nineteen or or the alabama offense at twenty twenty. I think there is a feeling with georgia at this point in kirby smart that it when i see it but at the end of the day they did play a lot better on offense. Once he took over as the quarterback they're bringing back everybody next year That was part of that search late in the season. Not just. jt. Daniels zimmer white and james cook and kenny milton the running backs and darnall washington with really impressive as a freshman tight end You mentioned pickens. Germain burton curious jackson and then last year they have a lot of turnover on offensive line. they'll be more experienced up there so there's no reason why it shouldn't be a very good question for you stu than off follow up of what para said yes Cal trask gone to the nfl. Mack jones gone to the nfl. Kellyn mon- gone to the nfl If you look at it right now if you're making you have to fill out a preseason all. Sec team is j. t. daniels your preseason. All sec quarterback ooh good question. I don't think so. Because solely because of the guy going back at ole miss like who are you who are you choosing between those two I think the ole miss offense. And i look he's lost. The best receiver was because of the best receiver in the conference. I can't do that to alabama about one of the best receivers in the country And they lost some good players around there. I don't know. I mean that's a tough one. I mean missouri has a good young quarterback. Obviously you know lane has a really good young quarterback you know. I guess he's a saw it going to be a junior sophomore. I don't even know what we're calling guys who were super sophomores but I don't know. I mean i i suspect. Jt daniels will get a lot of votes for for because of the talent around him of being preseason all sec quarterback. I'm going to go off the board. And i will say. The best quarterback conference will be brazil. I don't think that's a very controversial. Pinon it's yeah. I mean but i don't think they can name come media days. I don't think you'll be named the preseason guy because he hasn't played. But i don't think it makes me surprised if he if under new. Oc bill o'brien. If by the end of the year. He is that guy all right next question from chris. The sarkar texas was interesting in the firing hiring announcement happened to practically simultaneously. Is there a reason why this is not more common among coaching searches and college. Football seems like a good way to avoid the chaos and uncertainty that accompanies coaching. Search like auburn and tennessee's this year. This was a unique situation. Stew as you and i have talked about offline quite a bit Crystal conti and the powerbrokers taxes had really made up their minds. That that Tom herman they just didn't think it was going to get the job done. And you know. Initially it was urban. Meyer was the target. Then when he wasn't interested in it was like okay. What are we gonna do I really think from the point they got to right before. Signing when they put out that statement it was like who can we get and then it became an issue of being very discreet. Or stealthy behind the scenes of vetting steve sarkisian. Who obviously knows we talked about. Even with him on the podcast. He has some issues that i think made some have to dig a little deeper because of the way things Ended for him at usc. So i think going through that process credit to taxes that they were able to do it. very discreetly. I am not firing happened on a saturday morning. Now i you know. I think chip out brown who our friend who covers taxes. I believe he was the first one to really say. They're targeting everything. Sark is expected to be the guy. And i don't know what the lag time how much that was. Bubbling behind the scenes Not i don't think it was a shock for a lot of people that they were gonna rip off the band aid. It was a question of but they were going to line up sark. It almost never happens where search process can be that that Stealthy it just doesn't happen. Especially at a big program like texas They use things kind of they. Leak out they get. They get messy and It's just a unique situation. I can't think of many others. That happen where they happened. Like that as fast where Now i think what added to the speed of this happening was that sark had a national title game two to prepare for and so from the alabama slash side. They wanted that thing wrapped up and put out there as soon as possible. Because then it could have whatever. It is twenty four thirty six our new cycled to digest it and then and they move on and then it kind of you know he can get back to alabama business usually there. Isn't that thing looming behind it to kind of expedited. Right and the one thing that i do think like kinda muddled it a little bit just as somebody who was trying to confirm it was. There was a part of it somewhere in the process on saturday with david pollock who works for espn. I think had had put out on twitter and cautioned use the it but put out on twitter. That sark was turning it down. And i think that was like a little bit of a curb all because a lot of people myself included who were reporting on it. That was not what we were hearing. And so you know it made it. Not quite as seamless but for the most part It was a it was a very unique situation that it was seamless. As as it could because it usually just gets out of the ways and like you said. I mean prepare. This happened the day after the semi finals. So clearly those conversations would have had started taking place while he is preparing for the semifinal game for it to get wrapped up that quickly so it also in this. Which is one of the thing on that stu like it's not a secret crystal county taxes is good friends with greg. Burned the ad at alabama. So i think he probably has pretty good insight into the one of the people he was going to be looking at well. Now that i hadn't thought about all this since it happened but but now thinking back on it and talking listening to you talk through. It is actually pretty amazing. It didn't leak out before the day after the game. Given the high profile program high profile coach involved Our weather their credit conti or be like man that was stealth in cold. He did that behind her back but long story short i to answer christmas question. You don't think that's gonna become commonplace. I do not. I do not think it will okay Next question. this one is for you. Stu from in mcfarland from lockin yada california fellas opium both. Well thank you in. We hope you are too every. Article ranking in podcast. I hear keep saying that oregon. Usc are the only hopes for the pac twelve and twenty twenty one but what about my beloved. Huskies a reminder that they won the division in the joke of a twenty twenty one season while oregon went four and three. Oregon's young talent is unquestioned. But u. dub is fifteenth in bill connolly's returning production and that seventh on offense an eleventh in sp plus but you'd think that they are headed for five and seven with the lack of coverage. They received what gives is. They're boring style not interesting enough to cover. I'm like to First of all note that in my early top twenty five. I have oriented higher than washington but i do not but i have washington eighteenth and i have. Usc ranked but also just like where. Where are these articles and rankings podcasts. Where they're debating the twenty twenty pac twelve or a I think it's tough. It's gonna be very tough to forecast the pac twelve because we saw so little. These teams washington finish three and one. I mean they look good In in some of those but it was four games. I do think that they should be really good on defense. I mean you wrote a story about. Etf i was blown away by Savell smalls was a big time recruit and will probably play a lot Going into his. How are we doing this. Are we going to call them. Sophomores are are. We freezing them in time. There's there's a bit of a debate. among college. football meteoroid out how to handle the free europe eligibility one of the coaches. I know refer to refer to seniors as super-senior. I have heard that one. Yeah and i don't know if that just carries over to everything like i don't know i don't know i mean a it's It's you get enough. People riled up when they use the term true freshman elements what is adding to the mix. What you've got theoretically next year you could have true freshman who are coming into college freshmen. Who were true or still be freshmen. And then actual read. I don't know. I think we should just move them up. Like you do need that term super-senior i guess for the guys who should normally had their be dominant their eligibility for the classes behind that. I say we moved them up to the next year. And then you know four or five years from now. They're going still use your village ability will then they'll be super seniors right. Yeah so let me let me pinpoint you a little bit back on washington. Yeah because and wanted to know. And i wonder if this factors into it Jimmy lake as times. Not always but a lot of times Coaches new coaches kind of get graded or pegged on how their coordinator hires shape up so as first coordinator higher John donavan been at penn state and penn state fans were raving about him And then this then peak wikowsky. Who was a really good defense coordinator. He left to go to texas and Jimmy like ended up promoting from within in bob gregory. So is that something that gives you a little pause and looking and saying okay. I don't foresee washington becoming a top five caliber team in the next year or two. I mean is it because you mentioned they definitely have potential star power in the in the pass rush side with those guys. Jimmy lake has been terrific in developing defensive backs. I don't feel like defensively is the thing that's gonna be troubling. I think it's the offensive issue which has been that way before you know. It's been that way for a little while. I think there was moments where people felt like the offense with jake brown and even though he'd been there a long time kind of leveled off and it after he left And jacobsen ended up with the job. It wasn't like it got better. So where your words. The where's your pulse on where you feel like the washington program is because we get a lot of oregon has been really strong recruiting and they create a lot of buzz with that. I think you and i are agreement. We both liked to hires that Mario crystal has made recently and offensive coordinator spot and defensive coordinator spot Where are we where do you. Where are you with the huskies. Yeah that's a good question. Because when they went to the playoffs and that was now a long time ago when they went to the playoff under peterson. in oregon. I think that same year was that was there for tobacco There was the sense that like oh washington passing organised program and taking back the pacific northwest in that that didn't last very long That being said organ had a great season. Two years ago won the pac twelve went to the rose bowl but as he said there are four and three last year. And i think the buzz around oregon is much more so obviously an is for washington because of recruiting. We haven't seen a packed. Well team not named usc you know get in the two to four seven rankings. Being up there number five number six in the country i mean. That's remarkable makes you feel like okay oregon's putting together like a program that can compete with the best in the country. Washington is still doing more the more more sliding under the radar in the landscape but I think i think they have something to prove. You know. i think iowa's frankly giving them a little bit a lot of doubt in putting them number eighteen in the country. So you're thinking. I wouldn't sam rethinking that i would say that i would. I would guess. I guess what i'm saying is i you know i'm sorry in that you're feeling. Your team is so disrespected. But i think they're going to do more to earn that respect don't you. I mean it was not yeah. I would agree with what you said. I want to see the offense. Come to live and right now. I haven't you know we need to see that. I mean it's look the twenty twenty season with so truncated especially from the pack twelve way at unfolded. I think that adds to it home. You know i still think jimmy lake was was a good hire to elevate from there and you know this is the offense that he believes in. You know we'll see how one year is not fair to judge it. So i don't know i'm not one like i guess We're in put it. I'm in i. I'm one where i think oregon to me is a is a legit top fifteen team. I think Based on how they recruited and how they think they've set up i think. Us's a little below that. But i think usc is the top twenty five team and then all of a sudden. It's a little bit little bit shakey or logic to save. At least like i mentioned in the last guessing like ian brought up they are dominating. Bill connolly's returning production ranking so always a good sign for the conference back the podcast in a second but first bruce a word about one of our favourite sponsors magic spoon. I know that in our household. I can't keep it in stock fast enough. Just this morning i was giving my daughter A bowl of their frosted cereal. It is healthy cereal that tastes like the sugary zero grew up with. I can't emphasize enough. How popular the magic spoon is in our household Everybody's trying to eat better healthy breakfast doesn't have to be boring. Magic spoon has amazing flavors. You love but without all the bad stuff. I can attest to this. Magic spoon is released. A brand new variety pack now featuring peanut butter. They released peanut butter as a limited edition. 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Riders wants the pandemic hit. We started doing virtual visits all of a sudden we could open up our showrooms you customers around the world learn more at microsoft dot com slash teams nathan in boulder. Colorado bruce. Do i have a lighter less depressing question for. We've been getting a lot of pressing questions i haven't noticed. Several people have excelled at video game racing and turn that talent into being a real racing driver. Do you think that someone could excel at a football simulation. Game like the pending. Ea sports game and turn that into a successful football coaching career. I think someone in the top one percent of players my understand the real game well enough to be an analyst or even an assistant coach at a smaller school. That is a really interesting question I think he's on to something because we have heard of players who have felt like they were playing that game. Help them learn offices. I mean i'll i personally remember playing that game way back when and feeling like i learned a lot about schemes and play books from from playing that game in that games a lot more advanced. Now probably will be a lot more advanced now than it was then You know Brennan marian who is the receivers coach at hawaii now and he was an offense coordinator. Nfc s and. I remember talking to him where a couple of plays that that he had come up with ended up in In the video. Game and i think there are i. It's hard to find somebody that would be a grassroots. This was their background. Came up from it because just a lot of coaching also ends up being. You know it's it's players not plays. It's how you relate to players. It's it's how these parts fit together But i would never say never. I mean it's it's it's an interesting question. Honestly i would. I would love to get the perspective on. There's enough young coaches in football. Who i think grew up with the game as well but also Understand how the parts work meaning like it's more than just. Hey this is a cool play in this. Is you know i see this. It's it's very interesting even as young as like my six year old son who plays madden And as obsessed with football like he he draws plays no things that you know. He drew up a play. That was very similar. You know from like from four wide offense that was basically a wheel route and not knowing it was a wheel route but there are you know i. I don't know i'm interested in this in this subject. I don't know the answer to it. I think if you talk to football coaches who are much older. I think they would. They would probably be dismissive of it. i one of the things that i've heard from. This isn't quite the same thing but it's it's a maybe it's in the spirit of it is A coach i know ed pointed out he was like well. This this person who is a really good player thinks that they could just jump in and be like a head coach and this is not related to dion sanders by the way but just thinks that they could come in and coach or be or run a position room at a high level college in this coach was like maybe like maybe they could help as an analyst or maybe they could help a but they. This person felt like. There's too much stuff that goes in to being a college coach on the field. At that point that would be a learn on the fly situation. That would you'd have to start out something differently now. This is obviously not what nathan is asking about. But i think that's kind of the a little bit of the attitude that that i think you're you'd probably be walking on okay We have to get so. I think the listeners to hear more about your football savant son. He just kind lost past that. Did you say ben. Your six year old. Like accidentally not like just on his own designed wheel route. Yes so this was a play that this happened. You know it's funny as like our daughter. Who's his twin. She is into princesses and more artistic. He is drawing up. He'll drop the field he does. His exit does and he designed to play for one of his favourite quarterbacks and it basically talked about okay. This is what this receiver does. He has the blocking scheme. And then the the back comes out of the backfield now. The wheel route is basically. It's i mean. I showed it to andy because there's video of it and it's essentially a wheel route He doesn't know what's called but he knew the blocking schemes while he knew what he wanted to do to to basically occupy the defense and how to basically sneak the running back behind. You know getting behind the defense and what the what the route combinations of the the other the four receivers were going to be. It was It was something. So so different in my household where My daughter who turns by this weekend is all into pop stars and singing and dancing and proud accomplishment for me is that i have now got her also listening to weezer and now singing along to the blue album. So we'll routes for you. Weezer me you never got me into any of that And one thing that has been especially good about the loving sports is. It is definitely helped. His math skills In terms of adding started out as well that's three touchdowns. That's how i gets twenty one or like those things in but it's sixes three seven's stuff has helped But yeah it's it's been it's been fun to just have somebody who is so interested in something. I'm so interested in how you see these articles in parents who are concerned about too much screen time. I'm calling bs on that During the during the pandemic people. You know. I've i've had to leave them with a tablet for so long into the. My daughter has learned so much from the learning games. We put on her tablet also like at some point in the last year she figured out how to text people unlike swear She's probably a more advanced reader than than she could be for age just from like she sent a text mark. Grandma rights The text so psa provoked hanging out there. Stop sweating the screen time. I don't know if it's if it's the screen. I mean if it's a screen time maybe before bed This is a discussion point in our house. Sometimes where it's like You know should they be doing things that get them. Amped up at After eight after eight fifteen. They're supposed to go to bed at eight forty five or possibly asleep by nine. I mean that's part of it. I guess what we've done is No video games during the week just to try to manage it like we've also seen you know we'll get a little werewolf Our son when it comes to some of like some of the stuff so Try to manage it. Harvey can try to manage. But i think one thing you said that i think is is Something i agree with. Which was you know in. The pandemic people are stressed. Parents are stressed a lot of them are working from home. They're trying to juggle all sorts of stuff. You know one thing. I took away pretty early on is like look if our kids end up watching a little too much. Tv during this you now okay. We'll we'll manage. You know. I mean you just do the best you can because you know people gotta work they gotta do you know they gotta do whatever they can and not to. Not you know drudge into the. I think unfortunately this comes out of nathan. Saying i have a lighter less depressing question for you. I apologize nathan there. That's what you get when you use words screen time stu takes into a different place. Well yeah i guess you guys. It's it's a very relevant topic for all parents but apparently you've been debating it as well Yeah to be clear. I think there's lots of different kinds of screen time. And i'm not talking about like letting your kids play called all day But but anyway. I should probably probably very clearly bring this back to football from darren in shreveport louisiana. Hey bruce i love the pod and everything. Athletic has brought us sports. Thank you As fan obviously sting singer gilbert transfer from lsu to a arrival in florida with all the talk happening of the upcoming vote on immediate eligibility for one time transfers. Could you see conference not allowing players to be immediately eligible if they transfer within the conference. Tampering must be something that kasha coaches are concerned about especially within conferences. Could the sec require a player to receive a waiver of the From the conference office for eligibility. I could see a conference putting pushing back on that. I don't know to what degree they would push back on it But for the reasons by the way thank you earn for for that The kind words about the athletic. And our i i could see conference pushing back on that. Just because of the reasons he said. I think one of the things that people are leery of is tampering and third party and different things like that and it doesn't mean that you can't have tampering in things that don't go on in in between the conference but I don't know. I think that's something that i feel like. And it's not just the sec. I feel like some conference are uncomfortable with. I could see the fight. You know being resistant. I don't know that you could go through with that because You know it could be recruiting disadvantage. If you're saying if you come to this conference you're not gonna have the same flexibility. That players other conferences do Now the sec. Did there is a precedent for this recently. Which is when the grad transfer became thing. the sec. Only the sec. Among major conferences had a rule that you couldn't take a grad transfer that only had one year of eligibility left Had there are a lot of situations recently where there was appeals. In fighting i think it eventually either got eventually repealed or basically like greg thank. You is giving exceptions to it. I'm sorry. I don't know the exact details on that. But yeah there's a situation. Where conference had a stricter rule then was thin could be permitted by the ncaa. Bruce let's wrap up with a really fun. One from our robert are in oklahoma city. I heard a rumor. You guys want questions. I have a question we did want questions. Thank you robert. Yes the sec. One another football championship but what conference rules acting. Tom brady will never help the big ten here. Pay manning's quite a boost for the sec. Burt reynolds chris. Paul in the rock for the acc baker mayfield good. Brian bosworth good blake griffin. Good in patrick mahomes. So so i guess. He's referring to the state farm commercials impressed with patrick bones or a decent case for rising big twelve in the conference acting. Championships you all. So i assume they have to have played for these programs. I believe so otherwise the big ten would win just from north. Western's acting leauge. I walked into that stupidity. And so we're not gonna count sl assistance. So we can't count will farrell for usc. Then right that's a tough one. I guess not no. But i think i think what he's overlooking here is that the to l. a. schools. Oh yeah just by being in a. are gonna give the pac twelve quite a boost here. Yes first of all. John wayne who is obviously legendary actor. Played football for usc. That's a big one for them. Mark harmon was a really good quarterback for ucla. That would be a pretty big one for them. I mean just in terms of what they did what they What they have accomplished in that field. Because i feel like what robert is is including. Our athletes who've transitioned over more than any. Yeah i mean. He doesn't counting burt reynolds so yet her of it's true. It seems to be a mix of actual actors and commercial guys who've been good commercials. Which by the way score the pac twelve. Aaron rodgers is really good. No state farm commercials. Yeah i feel like this is the kind of thing where there's probably a ton of people that we would be overlooking In this by the way My alma mater. Though since you since you pulled it out and went with northwestern mama mater actually is pretty strong on this front you know. Why not. Just the rock. Who's like the hottest name in in pop culture but also you know who else wants to miami. I can't yeah. He didn't play football. And that's the problem. So oh i did. Somehow i didn't know that. Yeah i think it would take for our if we started looking up where a reactor went to school with in terms of athletes. I got another one in the pac twelve favor. Joel mchale washington washington or whatever it was i mean. I'm sure the people listening right. Now we're gonna email us with like. Oh you forgot about this guy. Forgot about this guy but i have a feeling the packbell would end up winning that. Yeah and i think a lotta times. I mean look cringes. I bring this up now but Who was the old running back. Who is in the naked gun. Movies didn't play usa cheese. Yes i mean but do we have to count him no. We don't have to do anything on that. But i mean there was a lot of people who i feel like. I've come through. Usc who who ended up having pretty successful moving careers. Like matt willis is a name on a few and remember he was like six eight linemen who ended up as kind of a villain and a lot of movies just because he was like a huge dude. If you google and you're like oh. I remember him in. What was the movie where So this is so typical of me. Where i'm gonna go. What was the movie where it's the. Snl guy who. I always feel like dates. Way above what i think. He should be able to get exactly who. You're talking about jason's today kiss jason today casse and they end up in mexico. And we're the millers. Yeah so Matt willing i think is the is the killer who's trying to get them Is one of them well. I actually saw that movie again recently. In told you that was the name of that guy. Yeah the reason. Why i know is just because one day he came out to usc practice. They were honoring. I think the teeny was on. Was maybe the one thousand ninety eight team or so and he played in the nfl for. I don't know a five six seven years or so. And i was like who is that guy. 'cause like he's every bit of like six seven three hundred pounds in really good shape and then somebody said no. He's in like a ton of movies and ton of tv shows so yes we are the millers. He was his role was quote. One i well if nothing else. I think robert was looking for here as he as you. He's in oklahoma city. And he mentioned three Sooners who so. Let's give a little validation here that they do seem to forever reason produce Guys were good in commercials. Yeah i think. I you know my our buddy down waikiki. Who covers the nba for the la times as friendly with blake griffin from one blake griffin was Was with the clippers. And he said he's really funny and really cared about you know that side of his his career a little bit so i think they would make her mayfield at home commercials. At first i didn't think much of them but like making them in there actually pretty funny. Yeah i think baker. I found this from covering him and doing some tv pieces. He could laugh at himself he he has good sense of humor and it's not surprising that he is kind of shine through his in his commercials. Good santa questions everybody. These actually came in on very short notice when i send reminder out on twitter so i'm going to send reminder now that you can send your questions to the audible pod at mail dot com see next time

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Hour 3: Connor Riley and news from Athens

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Hour 3: Connor Riley and news from Athens

"Dead more time to listen to yours truly by going to shell and getting things done at once. I fill up with shell. V power plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally snack up to save even more at the pump. Make the most of the stop you need to make with shell. But pride passion and pattern tree of college. Football leaves here. Is the paul finebaum. Show our three podcast. We welcome you back. Second half the show is live and underway lane. Kiffin joined us early in the program. We've also talked to andrea adelson. Andy staples a number of other guests will be joining us shortly. And more of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. Let's check in with kevin in fort worth kevin. Durant ahead kevin either. Yeah go right ahead. kevin keith. In fort worth keith my apologies. I misread the name. So i've given you a new name now. I'm taking you got a. I got a brother named kevin. Maybe is on the other line keith. anyway i just wanted to check out your policy. If he's getting ready for big turkey. Day and i had two quick points about tennessee football. Yeah i can't wait for thursday always one of the days of the year this year. Maybe a little different. But what are you on tennessee football. Well the first one is I the two biggest lies i heard. October was tennessee had the best offensive line and the city of the country was just. It was just short for second place behind. Biden's saying he was going to raise everybody's taxes. And secondly i hit these two people collagen about the This overwhelming history of Tennessee football you know. They sound like the texas fans and usd with brassica fans. I think they need to get a grip on where they are as a program. I mean i don't see him winning. Jeremy pruitt It's been a long time since they have won consistently been the mix. And i don't think phil fulmer the great pumpkin patch and deliver The savior for them I don't know why these tennessee fans Think they're entitled to some big name head. Coach is gonna come in and tell you everything around keith. Sometimes you do have to be aware and honest about who you are in. Tennessee has been struggling with that for some time. Ricky is up next. How are you ricky. good paul Well like mike leach He kinda showed little improvement last week. that's that's just what i wanna see. I just want to see them do something. And just you know. Having some improvement in a those those freshman was kinda kind of impressive on on big georgia. Great defensively most I i'm i'm thoroughly impressed. But it wasn't it. Wasn't you pride. I think the sec. If you wanna win you gotta run the football and and you gotta keep no defenses honest and i like a scheme but i just i'm just i don't i. Don't like one dimensional type. You know offense. I i think you gotta have. You gotta have balance. I just believe that you know but they show some improvement. And that's all. I wanted to see the show that you that you learn something and you You know that you get at least a grasp with the offense and you to make some improvements and i found that saw it I was. I was impressed by my I i can't see what he's trying to do but i'm i'm just. I'm just cautiously optimistic. we ricky. I'm glad i'm glad to hear that. And it's it's been a while since. I heard some optimism from that side. Good to hear from you. Stewart is up next in south carolina. Hello stuart pala. Got three questions for you. Yeah sure. I'm right here stewart okay. Three questions Hey hey think. Florida and alabama match up. The second question is at nc double a. And other conferences Protocols how they regulate who could play in his way you would think that that they would control Some of the citizens there other than the two to schools trying to go at it. They would have some kind of policies in line and Yeah you know you raise a good point there. I was stunned by what i heard from. Andhra adelson that the the did not intervene and try to mediate disputes saturday morning between. Fsu and clemson. They they did. So you're asking about the nc double a. They have nothing to do with it. These are all conference dictate dictated protocols. Every conference has a different protocol as crazy as that sounds. But that's how we got to where we are right now where you had three of the power five started the season within a reasonable amount of time of each other and then the big ten in the pack twelve showdown but it is different everywhere you go. The real issue is about to become college basketball which starts wednesday and already countless games have been postponed or can't probably cancel it. Because you can't make these games and you know. There are some concerns that the college basketball season should punt on the non conference games. And just get right to conference play and play the tournament. But already in the sec. Ole miss pausing. They're going to miss a couple of games. Florida today announced rig. Barnes has tested positive. And they're going to miss the first game or two so duke. Hp countless number of schools. That are having problems because everybody's traveling right now at the worst possible time with things are getting out of control. So yeah it's a but it's ultimately a conference dictated set of rules and protocol. Thank you for the call. I really do appreciate it. Let's check in with Wayne up next wayne go right ahead. Hello are europol. Sure am thank you okay. I can barely hear you but anyway I've always been a big mark soups fan and And everything but I've got some questions about what happened. There in alabama game We were inside the red zone three times and and and we're playing the number one team in the country and more down by fought I mean every time he tries to each other they found field goals since they're trying for to make it on fourth down. Been the biggest question. I thought i'd answer this for me. If he's got the ball in on the seven yard line. Thirty more Would you take a penalty. Might get a second and ten from the seventeen. I is that what happened. I'm i'm a little confused about that but did that not happen during the game against okay. Well what about you paul. If you was coaching would you've tried to quit ford on third and one or would you took the penalty. Went per second ten. Yeah let me look at the bigger picture here. I think this has been a difficult year for kentucky. We know part of the problem is key was caused by the internal issues and the death of a beloved coach. But i still think it's been a very difficult year to watch. A lot of mistakes have been made a lot of questionable calls by mark stoops. And you really. The only bright shining moment was the complete and total disarray of tennessee. And since then. I haven't seen much impresses me or anyone else. Hey thank you for the call. Really nice to have you on. Frank is up next in queens frank. Hey you help you have a nice holiday thank you. You've been kind of waxing poetic about hugh freeze or less week or two saying giving them absolution almost right giving him total carte blanche and he's paid penalty. Pay the punishment. What this guy did was horrific. This guy had nine level one infractions including going an escort service. Now my question is how come you don't give the same audience What do you think about him. Being the same absolution to rick pitino first of all. I'm not really interested in rick pitino's career any longer at i own a. He's got a job and good for him. We're talking about free when it was going down and you had a lot to say when it was going down by the way for the way frank also had say back she freeze when he went down. But you think this guy. He's giving him absolution given frank everything on a second frank. Hey i am a talk show host. I'm not a priest. I give opinions. I don't do communion give absolution. I'm just a normal guy like you are. So i gave an opinion on g freeze. I think he made some terrible mistakes. I've said that constantly. But i also believe that he has proven in his second go to be a spectacularly. Good coach i mean he he he he came within a misfield goes saturday block. Field goal of beating three acc schools this year which to me is an indicator of what he can do with less. So i'm not talking about his coaching ability. Everyone knows he's a great coach. Great offense mclean. I'm talking about his characters because character themes like earth probably know character and liberty university. We found that oakland couple months. Hold on a second okay. I'm not going to defend jerry. Falwell junior. I don't know i don't know anything about them. I've read the stories like you have. But yeah i'm not sure i would just completely just attack a university which is a christian base university just because the founder not the founder. But the founder's son has gone off the deep end. I mean there's still a lot of good people there. I guess not in saying that not all. I'm a catholic. I went to a catholic college. I you know. And i try to be the best catholic i can do but the thing is i. Don't go around saying i'm the greatest on this ptolemy. Follow christ and that's exactly what the people liberate liberty university do have a great day. Know what that's the one thing that you said that i'm going to try to do. I'm going to try to have a great day. We will take a break. Let's head to the break a lot to do. We'll talk about jt daniels and whether he will be the answer at georgia whatever. The question is will find out when we talked to connor. Reilly he is up next apartment. Speaking and i need some favors. When you're seeing in the shower just try going up key. You're trying to be an alto when really. You're a soprano. Oh if you could bundle your renters and car insurance with geico. It's easy to do online and we could save money. And then when you read your murder mysteries at night could you read out loud. But skip the murder parts because i get scared for bundling go to geico dot com today. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast you. Hey it's your homie. Sorry it's your home. I know you don't like it. When i call myself your own me so i have some favors to ask you. Could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room. My floorboards are tired and other easy thing which save money if you bundled your home and car insurance with geico on moore thing i know you love lavender. Scented candles but could be tried he ish vanilla. I think it would fit my vibe better. Gago bundling made easy go to geico dot com today. Hey we welcome you back and we have promised we are going. We were going to talk about Jt daniels. I think we showed you a headline here earlier. That a pretty well. It says it all from dog nation. Social media thrilled. Jt daniels performance. But ponders why kirby smart didn't play him. Let's welcome in the author of that article connor. Thank you for being with us. First of all. Let's talk about the good news. I the fact that he played well for those who missed the game and it was not exactly the feature game of the day How did he play. I thought he was fantastic. Four hundred yards four touchdowns as the first georgia quarterback to do that since twenty thirteen for a program that has had lingering questions about this going back even pass through the twenty nine thousand nine season to have a performance like this especially when they couldn't run the ball. At all this was the worst rushing performances. One thousand nine hundred eighty six which is a total yards. Jt daniels doesn't play the way he does it. I think it's pretty fair to say. The georgia probably loses to mississippi state team numbers. Not that highly thought of coming into saturday. We're talking to kinda raw and lane kiffin alluded to that as well. Which is just a shocking statement. Is it not that we we ended up getting to this point for those who have not followed the vagaries connor of jt daniels. Do we know what the hold up was with him. in terms of clarence yeah so. His dad came out and made some comments today. You can read them a dog nation where he wasn't one hundred percent ready to go and august and even september. We know he wasn't clear to play in. That arkansas game came out right before the auburn game. Second game of the season and said jt daniels physically clear to play. Football games and reality is yours. Second game of the year. We didn't end up seeing him until the seventh game. We know he took that knee. Brace off prior to the tennessee game and practices in warm ups. But for whatever reason we didn't see him it may have been an issue of how comfortable he was in his knee. And the level of mobility that kirby smart was looking for that's something he's referenced. Many times based off what we saw on saturday that mobility was there the ability to make plays in really. I think the biggest question at least fans people who follow the program asked me or how close was jt daniels to what we saw on saturday back on november seventh when georgia played florida because if daniels plays like he did on saturday against florida. There's a real chance of jordan. Finds a way to at least made that game closer and possibly even win. It just truly amazing to think about how different this georgia season is and while they're having a better season than most two losses of Effectively out and georgia was expecting to be in atlanta at the end of the year and not watching on television or playing in another game. Just give us your your your read on the energy that has now maybe been brought back to a program that was seemingly dead in the aftermath of the florida game. It was a it was a mighty big fall from grace. Do you think this is going. Yeah people's energized. Even i think if. Jt daniels keeps playing away. He does. It is gonna keep people interested in tuned in the rest of the season. 'cause you point out. This is georgia program. Where going eight and two this year in a burst in the peach bowl. That doesn't do it for them. There was a lot of negative energy around this program. Losing the florida so for daniels will come out. Look good look like a possible at least certainly this season and potentially even long term solution at the quarterback position there for georgia. I think that's huge place. While again against south carolina and finishes the season out strong. I do think that can build a lot of momentum towards that twenty twenty one season when a lot of these skill players. That played really well on saturday night. Also come back to the storage team. Know you talk to a lot of fans. Interact with them. Know what you said. And i know that this is hope you need hope after a slog through a difficult year. But but how tough do you think it is going to be from from this moment on watching the gators. Possibly see a heisman winner in kala. Trask play alabama. And who knows what happens there. But but the gators at least for now have seemingly past the bulldogs deny that this season based on what you saw on the field now long term trajectory of these two programs. We'll see but having a really good quarterback light. Florida does with contrasts may as we've seen makes up for a lot of the other issues. That florida happens to have so if georgia's able to make. Jt daniels into that guy that difference making quarterback where against alabama frankly the program that we so often measured georgia against georgia's able to do that and get the most out of there. I do think that that is going to help. Certainly throughout this off season alleviate some of the concerns of what is the sort of direction of this program. Daniels wasn't the answer. That just leaves you scratching your head more with kirby smart and what has happened in this twenty twenty season georgia. Let me get. Let me get from you. I and i realized we'll talk about little else here for the next three weeks leading up to the obvious. Obviously leading up to the alabama florida. You've seen both these clubs against georgia. Which will you can debate georgia texas. Am among the best competition for for alabama and obviously florida has played georgia. we'll play alabama. Is there a way for you to look at Alabama and florida right now and and try to differentiate them. Yeah one of the things going back to that game is alabama could have dumped ever wanted to in the second half if they wanted to just get out get out. There were fifty sixty points. I absolutely think they could have. Whereas in the florida game yes. They scored thirty eight points in the second half and the first half there but i absolutely believe that dan mullen wanted to run the score up that day and scores many points on were just given the issues. He's had with this program recent seasons and they really couldn't do that. And why getting it. Just watch alabama just destroy kentucky this weekend and then see ohio state struggle. You know how they make those championship. Commemorative shirts i think alabama as eighteen national titles. You can go ahead and start making the nineteenth national title t shirt with how well this alabama team has been playing over the course of the season even going back to that game. We know that will make you a very popular man in gainesville florida tonight. Thank you so much for joining us. Come back soon always always enjoy appreciate it very much. Wow fantastic conversation. There was kinda rally mainly by jt daniel and now he is awesome. Things like this georgia program. Some life we will take a break much more to come right here on a monday afternoon. Napa know napa you can get twenty percents off three or more items with a four ninety nine napa yup twenty percent off power tools. Twenty percent off wipers twenty percents off and more. It's a whole bag of tricks. Well actually. it's one trick over and over again but it's a good one saving you. Twenty percent three or more items quality parts helpful people that's napa know how participating locations exclusions apply may not be combined with other offers offer ends eleven thirty twenty. You're listening to paul finebaum. Show podcast and we welcome you back. See so hurt will join us in the final hour to talk about this weekend's iron bowl and alabama's rather quiet run for yet another national title. We'll talk to him coming up shortly. Let's check in with augie in new orleans. Hello good afternoon to you good afternoon. Paul would and happy thanksgiving week. What a difference Couple of weeks have made in the future of georgia not so long ago. We were talking about georgia being in the college football playoff and now they're celebrating victory over mississippi state which i was really. Yeah he had. Daniels had a great performance. But i was appalled at their running game. I mean mississippi state defense. That good did you see that. It has not been until now. Yeah i mean. I think i think the praise for mississippi state and for georgia is slightly exaggerated for this one game. I agree and i think of all things is. Isn't it a commentary though on kirby smart in his ability to manage the quarterback position. I mean we got justin feels and now we got this issue about this one so much but again the justin the only thing i say augie and fairness a kirby smart. Jt daniels was supposed to be ready early on. And i think you had. An internal family feud going on there that kirby's mar fell. He was ready. The doctors the jt was used back in la did not so they had to wait and it ended up probably costing joy job a big big year. Now let me say this. If jt had started from day one would alabama have lost. Georgia no would. Florida have lost georgia. No no not. If georgia's defense was that terrible. I mean let's face. It freshman quarterback was playing high school football and mississippi. Last year was he was really Having his way with that georgia defense which was supposed to be a strong corner of the team right when he was at one point. Some key injuries. And i'm not sure what else have have derailed that but yeah i mean i mean george unfortunately is has gone from hoping to win the title this year to being fired up after a win against mississippi state which is beaten nobody. Well rabia issue. I'm sorry well hey and speaking of I'm fired up that. We beat arkansas. Which again if we played that game five times we probably lose five straight times but hey all that matters was one saturday and i don't buy any of this. Officials won the game. We had some bad calls to we. Had some big plays callback so there were blown calls. Were blown calls place. But paul i wanna ask you. What have you done to the people in new york. I mean you have frank. The king of queens. Who was all over you. Because you have rehabilitated. And gave absolution and communion to hear freeze. Yeah i to get my I'm going to get my colorado the closet here and come back and and do the mother. Angelica our i. I don't know what's going on. I mean we've had more callers tonight. From new york that we have alabama. That's the other thing. I was going to ask you is. What have you done to stir up the people new york ever since the guy who called him. We look for the bagels things going off track. Yeah now apparently the The local shows in new york must be struggling as they're all calling us. Well i mean that proves there's no college football in new york so you gotta give the folks a new york really right now. They're looking for. That was the best team in the afc in alabama. It was third trust me. I'm the biggest hater of alabama football. There is but you gotta give the devil his due. There's nobody in the sec. That's gonna beat. Bama and i'm not so sure there's anybody in the country that's going to beat them. Of course they didn't look great against kentucky in the first half but who's gonna get up for kentucky. I mean be real. Thanks all appreciate. Mark is up next to mark. Mark you there i. We're about to lift off here at cape canaveral. John is up next In saint louis. Hey john johny there today. I'm doing great. Thank you good. Good happy holidays to you by the way anyway. The i think the The missouri arkansas dam is going to be a very very competitive game. you know. it's not obviously a top twenty five action but i think there's Quite a bit at stake here In terms of personalities and integrity And related to Obviously berry you know used to be coach at missouri and drink is the new coach at There so i think it's gonna be a tough game. I i know. I've railed on very owed quite a bit here this year and last year before missouri terminated him. But i i. I wouldn't be surprised if you know. Barron kohl's one here in missouri down. I think he is. He wants to hang his head on this game this year. So what's your feet that we've seen a couple of the we. We saw the chaired morris game but with auburn with arkansas. And that was really an decided by an official about shared morris but i. I think this one's pretty personal. And i would expect the arkansas players to to rise up here all right thank you i think arkansas has a really good team. Shannon is up next shannon in georgia. How are you doing that. We're doing well respond to your last guest who was talking about. Jt daniels and what a great job he did and and how he would have been starting quarterback against florida. Maybe georgia beat florida. And i think you know you gotta be real careful about getting out over your skis all these predictions. You hit these experts. Make all the time you know the way that beat georgia has been to stack the box and their them to throw the while from couldn't do it. They haven't had any the threats and the poor kids stetson surely couldn't do it. And you know you watch the game and you realize the mississippi state came in and they were candidate years back daring georgia to throw the ball and you know. Luckily you had a kid that was able to throw the ball and complete some deep passes and you know. I think most of the scores were on on. Detroit's you know Well i think you florida new. The jt daniels quarterback they would probably prepare a little bit differently than they do for steps. Have been quarterback agree or not. I would agree with you that that I mean i. I don't know about you shannon. You're you've coached before i. I still have questions about the florida defense. A lot of questions about the defense. But you know. I think you know i get text from people. Doing the game play. Mississippi state and you know buddies of mine are saying why are we playing zone we just blitz like crazy pressure that quarterback and i said well ask lsu happens when you blitz. Mike leach you know this. It's not a good not a good scheme and and you know. I think daniels. He may be the answer. I hope he is. I'm georgia fan. But my gosh. Let's not go out there making the second coming just because you had a good game it gets. Mississippi state was scholarship depleted and they jammed about so the eight or nine players and played man up on on the edges. I mean that's you know. Let's let's give it some time and see you know in. Yeah i agree. I wasn't i kind of didn't spend a lot of time on the game but What i did. I didn't come away. Overly impressed with anyone kirby you know if he doesn't start. Jt dangles. he's questioned. March playing them so it does start. I mean he has a decent game. I was on the question is. Why haven't you been playing before. I mean there's like there's no right answer for some folks when you you understand this shannon when the expectations are at the alabama ohio stay clemson level. And you don't meet them. You are going to come under a barrage of criticism. And that's where kirby smart is right now. And i understand that but you know i look at. I look at the people at tennessee. They're so upset right now. They ran off phillip fulmer. And look at what's happened since then and then you take a situation like bobby bowden at florida. State hired him in seventy six florida. State it with ninety three before he wanted first national championship. It's like people want immediate results. Immediate satisfaction they don't wanna these tests anytime to build a program or faith to the coaches know what they're doing. You know. I can understand kirby smart enough said that. The press conference after the game. When i asked why haven't played them and it's like you know these guys in the media. Y'all are on the practice. Field coaches office. Got no idea what's going on really. I think it's it's a good kid and good game and i was excited to stretch the field. Throw the ball. But let's be real. It was understaffed midst of state team. That had prepped. Probably the play or to one maths at quarterback were will georgia beat him and they said hey. If you're going to be this you're gonna be just throwing the ball. Deep and georgia was able to complete deep balls and into story if the kids continues to be the answer. We hope he is. Curry's a genius got. Hey thanks for the call. Eddie is up next. Hey eddie five. Got eight tall. I am here a yeah. It's gonna come in on a You gotta let this florida caller on. I think he's a home us about he's off. You know he he. He says that Alabama is the third best team in the That's that's no big deal But you know i'm i'm looking so looking forward to the alabama in a match up because I think that really on the estimating the champions all right what a champion is Paul they'd just like directly. Call us at call in from different thinking of team better than what they really are on florida. Florida has a good offense but bama has a great office and in between all. Good and great is balance I mean employers not physical enough to alabama. You gotta do is look back at the last three games on. By the time we get to the third one is probably going to be a mauling on it definitely when we get to the full. I can't see how. I can't even see harrison's not going to have to on in on those guys right so and and ball console you. Know that's gonna fabulous the man ball control everything all right so i don't even know what florida talking about. We gotta be three touchdown favorites from here on out against everybody all and they're just the way it is and in in saving wintrust won't damn paul. Yeah alabama's a twenty four point favorite this week against auburn's they'll there was. The line was higher in two thousand twelve. Believe the alabama was about thirty point favorite and it was a disastrous result for auburn. We'll up against a break. More to come over will join us at the top of the hour tomorrow. We'll head to knoxville and got a pulse of that community after five straight double digit losses for jeremy. Pruitt we're coming right back. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. We can be back. See so hurt will join us in the final hour to talk about this weekend's iron bowl and alabama's rather quiet run for yet another national title. We'll talk to him coming up here shortly. Let's check with augie in new orleans. Good afternoon to you. good afternoon. Paul would an happy thanksgiving week. What a difference a couple of weeks have made in the future of georgia not so long ago we were talking about georgia being in the college football playoff and now they're celebrating a victory over mississippi state which i was really. Yeah he had. A daniels had a great performance. But i was appalled at their running game. I mean states defense that good did you see that it has not been until now Yeah i mean. I think i think the praise for mississippi state and georgia is slightly exaggerated for this one game. I agree and i think of all. Things is isn't commentary though on kirby smart in his ability to manage the quarterback position. I mean we got justin feels and now we got this issue. I don't know about this went so much but again the justice the only thing i would say the fairness kirby smart Jt daniels was supposed to be ready early on. And i think you had an internal family feud going on there that curbs mar felt like he was ready. The doctors that jt was used back in la did not so they had to wait and it ended up probably costing george a big year. Now let me say this. If jt daniels had started from day one would alabama have lost. Georgia no would florida have lost a georgia. No no not if georgia's defense was that terrible. I mean let's face it. A freshman quarterback was playing high school football and mississippi. Last year was He was really having his way with georgia defense. Which was supposed to be strong for the team right. Well you was at one point some key injuries and i'm not sure what else have derailed that but yeah i'd george unfortunately is has gone from hoping to win the title this year to being fired up after a win against mississippi state which is beaten nobody. Well they beat unless you. I'm sorry well hey and speaking of I'm fired up that. We beat arkansas. Which again if we played that game five times we'd probably lose five straight times but hey all that matters was we want saturday and i don't buy any of this. Officials won the game. We had some bad calls to we. Had some big plays called back so they were blown calls blown calls other place. But paul i want to ask you. What have you done to the people in new york. I mean you have frank. The king of queens. Who was all over you. Because you have rehabilitated. And gave absolution and communion to hear freeze. Yeah i to get my. I'm going to get my colorado the a closet here and come back and do the mother. Angelica our i. I don't know what's going on. I mean we've had more college tonight. From new york that we have alabama. That's the other thing i was gonna ask you is. What have you done disturb the people new york ever since the guy who called him looking for bagels things have gone off track. Apparently the The local shows in new york must be struggling. Because they're all calling us. Well i mean that proves. There's no college football in new york. You gotta give the folks you know really right now not a short. What they're looking for the best team in the afc and alabama. What was third right. Trust me. I'm the biggest hater of alabama football. There is but you gotta give the devil his due. There's nobody in the sec. That's going to be obama. And i'm not so sure. There's anybody in the country that's going beat them. Of course they didn't look great against kentucky in the first half. but who's gonna get up for kentucky. I mean be real. Mark is up next. Hey mark mark you there to lift off your cape canaveral. John is up next in saint louis. Hey john john you there. I'm doing great. Thank you good. Good happy holidays to you by the way anyway. The i think the the missouri arkansas game is going to be very very competitive game. you know. it's not obviously a top twenty five action. But i think there's quite a bit at stake here in terms of personalities and integrity and related to Obviously bury them. You know used to be coach at missouri and drink is the new coach at There so i. I think it's gonna be a tough game. I i know. I've railed on barry odin quite a bit here this year and last year before missouri terminated him. But i i. I wouldn't be surprised if you know berry polls on air and chess missouri down. I think he he wants to hang his head on this game this year. So what's your feet that we've seen a couple of the we. We saw the chad morris game but with with auburn with arkansas. And that was really decided by an official. Not by chaired morris. But i think this one's pretty personal. And i would expect the arkansas players to to rise up here all right. Thank you that. I think arkansas has a really good team. Shannon is up next. hey shannon in georgia. How are you doing well puzzling. Respond to your last guest who was talking about. Jt daniels and what a great job he did and and how he would have been starting quarterback against florida. Maybe georgia beat florida. And i think you know you gotta be real careful about getting over your skis. All these predictions. You hear these experts. Make all the time you know the the way the beat georgia has been to stack the box and their them to throw the ball deep from couldn't do it. They haven't had any deep threats and the poor kids stetson surely couldn't do it. And and you know you watch the game and you realize that. Mississippi state came in. They were ten years back. Daring georgia to throw the ball and you know. Luckily you had a kid that was able to throw the ball and complete some deep passes and you know i think most of the big scores were on on. Detroit's you know But i think you florida new. The j. daniels the quarterback they would probably prepare a little bit differently than i do. I have been at quarterback agree or not. Yeah i would agree with you that that I mean i don't know about you. Shannon your coach before i i still have a few questions about the florida defense. I have a lot of questions about the florida defense. But you know i think you know get texts from people. Doing the game play mississippi state and buddies saying why are we playing zone we ought to just blitz like crazy and pressure that quarterback and i said well ask lsu happens when you blitz mike leach. You know this. It's not a good not a good scheme. And and you know. I think data daniels. He may be the answer door. I hope he. I'm georgia fan. But my gosh. That's not what they're making the second coming. Just because you had a good game it gets mississippi state and it was. Scholarship pleaded and they jammed the boss of eight or nine players and played man up on on the edge. I mean that's you know. Let's let's give it some time and see you know. Yeah i i agree i wasn't i didn't spend a lot of time on that game but what i did i didn't come away. Overly impressed with anyone. Yeah you know and kirby you know if he doesn't start. jt dangles. he's questioned march playing them. So it does start. I mean he has a decent game. And i was on the question is why haven't you been playing before i mean there's there's no right answer for some folks when you you understand this shannon when the expectations are at the alabama ohio state clemson level. And you don't meet them. You are going to come under a barrage of criticism. And that's where kirby smart is right now. And i understand that but you know i look at. I look at the tennessee. They're so upset right now. They ran off phillip fulmer. And look at what's happened since them. And then you take a situation like bobby bowden at florida state in seventy six florida state. It was ninety three before you won. Its first national championship. It's like people want immediate results immediate satisfaction. They don't wanna give these tests anytime to build a program or fate of the coaches. Know what they're doing you know. I i can understand kirby smart enough said that the press conference to the game when asked why he hadn't played them earlier. It's like you know these guys in the media. Y'all are on the practice coaches office. Got no idea what's going on really. I think it's a. It's a good kid and a good game and i was excited. See jordan stretch the field throw the ball. Let's be real. It was an understaffed mississippi state team. That had prepped. Probably the play minute or one maps to quarterback working on that georgia beat them and they said hey. If you're going to be this you're going to be in the ball. Deep and jordan was able to complete some deep balls and into story if the kids continues to be the answer we hope he is. Curry's a genius guy. Hey thanks for the call. Eddie is up next. Hey eddie or the man again you but darn pie. You got had i am here. Yeah it's gonna come in all you got four and a caller I think he's a home of he's off. You know he he he. He says that Alabama is the third best team in. That's that's no big deal But i you know. I'm looking forward to the alabama in a match up. Because i think that are really on the estimating the champions or the champion is They just like recipe. I'll call that call in from different flavors thinking team better than what they really are on. Florida has a good game but bama has a great office and and the difference between paul good and great is balanced Blood up i mean employers not physical to alabama. I gotta do is look back at the last three games by the to third quarter right. It's probably going to be a mauling on it. Definitely we get full. I can't see how. I can't even see how harrison's not going to have to invest in on those guys right so and a in bulk until you know that's gonna stab which the man ball control everything right so i don't even know what florida talking about. We gotta be three-touchdown favorites from here on out against everybody all and they're just the way it is man In in saving trust whoa dan palm. Yeah alabama's a twenty four point favorite this week against auburn The the the line was higher in two thousand and twelve. I believe alabama was about a thirty point favorites and it was a disastrous result for auburn. We'll up against a break more to come see so her will join us at the top of the hour tomorrow. We'll head to knoxville and got a pulse of that community after five straight double digit losses for jeremy pruitt. We are coming right back. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. 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I'm sure he would be you. Just come back and you have a big season ending win. You win this game you you make up for a bad beginning disastrous beginning. And that's all people all people are going to be talking about is responsibility and the brawl that ended a game. It was a pretty bad look for everyone. Let's get back to the calls. The first thirty minutes we talked primarily about another bad look from the university of florida last night just down the road from where the armed forces bowl game was played in fort worth. Let's get to the calls. An rod is in ohio. Hey i'm a trombone a like your show Like you thank. You don't have much use for the sec. And we're big ten fan but I want to say that the last couple of days of Been a really bad. Look for the sec. With florida just getting trashed and then Mississippi state players going out there and just absolutely mugging Tulsa player right really bad luck. Well i mean in terms of what happened last night. That was disgraceful in terms of figuring out. Exactly what caused all this. It really doesn't matter what caused it. I've heard coaches tell players over and over again. If something like this happened just just you know. Try to protect your teammates. Get out of the way. But i guess once the game's over Everyone absolutely loses their perspective. I appreciate your call very much. Jerry is up next in kentucky jerry. Hey paul how's it going Wondering if you heard about the press conference mark stoops head. today. I did not. He said that because kentucky was missing so many players and stars gets alabama and georgia. That wasn't the twenty two thousand eighteen to twenty twenty one. I mean that's kind of how silly what dan mullen said. Yesterday was teams have been doing what he dealt with last night all year. of course they have now. Dan mullen cannot get away. Get out of the way of his own mouth. That's his problem. He's a great football coach. Likable we all like. I'm here but you know. His comments after three or four games. This year have been inexcusable. Alabama game kentucky kentucky. Probably shouldn't play that game. Everybody knows they didn't have the players went down. There took his team beat. You didn't hear him. Making excuses like that and i just think that's you know. That's that's just ridiculous. Well thank you very much for the call. Let's check in with bill. Who is in tennessee. Hey bill hey. Paul thanks for taking my call. Long time listener. Thank you very much quick. Quick question for you to get your thoughts on this but these these teams that come in. They're talking about how florida Has went in there with mall and they they kind of the game kinda give their answer about how well we just were looking for the future and we really kind of play or everybody's looking at it as giving up on the game. Is there a way that these bowl committees can actually withhold the pay out to these teams or do something so they don't have this problem going forward with these teams coming in for their reputation as well. No because if you did that it would. It would constitute professional sports and here. We have to remind ourselves sometimes. This is amateur athletics. So there's nothing you can do. That's a responsibility. The head football coach to try to get his team prepared and and there will be a lot of debates about that game in the end. If dan mullen what he said is true and obviously seventeen key players out. They shouldn't have played the game. They didn't they didn't gain one thing by taking an absolute mauling in that game if they had a legitimate reason not to play. We just don't have enough players and that's that's part of this football season. You can't do that in a normal year. But in twenty twenty you could have said that. And i don't think anybody would have blinked an eye. Thank you paul thank you. I mean that's why they're protocols put into place anyway. Thanks jakov appreciate it very much. Let's check in with mark who is in south carolina. Hey mark how you doing. We're doing well. Thank you go to a question for you. I was listening to the dan. Mullen conversation and you know clings offing out. And i know you're an advocate for student. Athletes as i am i would kentucky back in the mid eighty s. I've got Put two kids to clemson south carolina. Big sec fan. But i'm starting to wonder if we are not putting too much. I don't know. I wanna call it privilege in the hands of student athletes. And i know you're not gonna get for them but when they can opt out or you know. I know what i have paid for my kids. Go to college athletes but you know hundred hundred twenty five thousand dollars to get a four year degree and were people opt out program. And i'm not defending dan mullen or anything like that. But i'm just wondering if we are not putting too much pressure on them and i understand that billions of dollars call he's generating but these are state run universities and our kids. Are you know we send their for education not to prepare for the nfl. And i'm just a little wondering why we let these kids out when playing football university education or hold on average. nfl players. You know five mark mark what what can you do about. It is my question to you. Play the game. You understand it better than a lot of us. Who didn't you can't start stipulating which i mean. We're not talking about opting out the first game we're talking about opting out the last game and there is a there is a significant difference. And how. I mean they're maher mar. Here's the mr that to syracuse. He came home one day and was telling me all the stuff that he gets. I looked at him. And i said stipends and all this stuff and he's playing football and i said well. What is that different than what you're getting from your parents. I mean we pay for your college. You play for your school all that i mean it. It is part of the package. The always there's not a contract that says you have to play x number of games you're signing grant made you're signing a scholarship and i frankly believe that by the time you get your final game you fulfill that because that game wasn't scheduled that's an add on. That's a game that the school makes money. The conference makes money the television networks. Make money and you get a phone charger from the sponsor of the bowl and not much else. Terry is up next in georgia. Hi terry thank you. Welcome to the program well. My question is is The what what. What is the what do you think about the Alabama and the alabama game the conference get howard but not. The compost album is playing tomorrow. Let's go to john in tulsa. Hey john thanks for the call. Welcome there hello everybody. 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How do you think that goes over with his locker room potential recruits Basically you know being called the scrubs and you're the second string guy he's had four recruiting classes the top ten classes What are your thoughts on that. How'd that go over in the locker room that play with the players will. Obviously the players didn't much care because seventeen or either opted out or couldn't play so dan mullins Sway with the team wasn't particularly strong. But i don't think it will go over very well. A very negative stigma that has been a tach to what had been a great year. That's that's the to me. The sad part about this for florida is the dan mullen had had has built this program back up from the clown show that previously existed there and his ridiculous statements after a couple of games this year. He's he's tossing some of it back and what about Trask draft stock it. I mean how much How much are one. Game can affect it. I understand he's without top. Four you know pass. Catcher receivers of course pits what scouts going to think about. I don't think of one one iota because any scouts and understands anything about football which is all of them means that they looked at what he didn't have and he was he was. He was playing with a his teammates that he really had not had a lot of familiarity with so. I don't think it's gonna matter. Everyone knew that was going to be a challenge. I don't think anyone is surprised by the final score. I think the biggest surprise was the way dan mullen handle that. That's all and he started spending it before the game and he tried to spend it afterwards and really in the end he just said three days ago. We can't play this game. Nobody would blink tonight just it would have been the nineteenth bowl game cancelled and we all would have gone happily into the night. Let's move along. Your reaction continues to come in eight five five two four two seven two eight five. I mentioned at the top of the next hour Archbishop marina will come in and not a moment too soon with the florida reaction and the malay in fort worth with mississippi state and tulsa coming into the paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back here on new year's eve We thought this would be calm. Serene afternoon and then florida lost by thirty five and mississippi state won about thirty minutes ago. Although that has not been the story today we are delighted to welcome back to the show. On new year's eve my griffiths mike. Thanks for the time. Happy new year and let us begin with the game that just ended. We were all keeping our eye on it. Significant win for mike leach. She got the four winds on the year and then a fight broke out. And i lost track trying to look at the video to to understand what happened. What did you see. yeah you know. A lot of fisticuffs a lot of emotions. That was hard fought football game. And you're right. It was a good finisher mississippi state. And who would've thought at the beginning of the year that mike lynch his offense you know might not rank in the top one hundred in scoring winning with his great defense in tulsa team that last week or a couple of weeks ago i guess played for the acc championship against cincinnati. And you kind of wonder. This didn't see a lot of cross conference games so for me. I was like gauging it right because georgia place against cincinnati and was the tallest. The team to bearcats overtime. But yet you hate to see games. End like that You don't wanna see those ugly kind of scene at the end but it is an emotional game. I mean let's face it football as violent sport. Sometimes the emotions get out of check from a coaching standpoint leash. In only mike leach. Fashion somewhat blew it off after the game. The brief clip we saw on. Espn is there. Anything coach can do something like this happens especially after the game. Yeah not really. You know internal discipline you leave it up to the. I mean we saw sheet. We saw something somewhat similar to this earlier this year with florida and missouri. Commissioner thank you gave mullen. I think twenty five thousand dollar fine but you know you don't like to see this. There's not much you can say. This is an internal disciplined. Kind of thing. You know nothing mike leach can say is going to make this this ugly scene go away. I don't think it's unfortunate. Like i said there's not much more we can really say other than you know. Sometimes it gets out of hand with these football players. I don't know. Do you change the the postgame custom tradition shaking hands. You certainly not talk about what happened yesterday. We all know the circumstances with the florida game. I'm most interested in in dan. Mullins comments after the game. He he essentially chiseled down to. Hey we got a chance to look. At some young players are season ended the ten days ago against alabama. Your reaction to all of that. I think is season in about a month ago against lsu when his guy threw a shoe and got a penalty and and lsu undermanned look. You can't use that argument paul. The georgia was down four five starters when they played florida. Lsu was down. I don't know how many guys the list was ridiculous. I didn't have fifty. is i mean. Listen yes. Florida was missing some key receivers but not to the extent. That a heisman trophy finalist should be throwing three interceptions in one quarter in his fourth. Pick six of the year. I mean you gotta call it what it is. I mean your best player did not play well. Your team did not respond to the challenge and you can say oklahoma. Didn't have anything to play for either and yet you know. They're the sooners again i. I can't remember heisman. Trophy finalist with four pick sixes in one year. I don't want say it on did everything because kyle. Trask had an amazing year. Thrown into some great receivers. But i do think this rate is some question and you know unfortunately not the way the gators they finished the year. Eight and four. I it just in the end. They're not who we thought they were. When they won the east they weren't able to uphold sec's division. They played alabama close. I guess maybe their their best win of the year might have been that loss to alabama was a good moral victory. They played the tied closer than anybody. You have talked a lot about the changing tides between georgia and florida and back and forth. We'll get to georgia in a second but naming like this mike you're plugged into recruiting. You're plugged into a lot of things. You look ahead. What what if anything do you think it will mean. I'm not really sure you know. The gators had the number. Five class in the sec. I mean molin has brought some momentum. I mean he called. I mean he's a great play caller. He's a great play designer. You saw him out skiing georgia. Would they put thirty. Eight thirty nine points on george. One half i'll be at. They had the ball eight or nine possessions. But you gotta give florida credit for what they did. They did take a step forward. And you got hope. If you're in florida fan that that carries over into the recruiting ranks again. That lost oklahoma. That's ugly and that's not the sort of momentum that you want to carry in the off season now. I don't know the value of those snaps that allow those players got for florida. I'll just say this one. What georgia has back. I'd say georgia's going to be picked to win the east and and florida's probably going to be looking to win. Maybe nine ten games and try to get into a new year's six again. This is three straight new year's six foals. I believe for the gators so they do have some momentum. Let's talk about the dogs. There are some of the forgotten team this season. They are ranked high. They have a really good record of wind tomorrow. New year's day game would be important what what's at stake. Tomorrow wasn't momentum. We just talked about that was florida. I mean goodness if georgia were lose to cincinnati and in atlanta in their backyard cincinnati would would take that bulldog head and and then rip it off and put it on their weight room and claim a share of the national championship. Much like central florida. Did when they beat auburn. Very same game. So you know georgia doesn't want that wanted to georgia's still trying to get their senior bowl game right those vanderbilt guys. We were kind of them for skipping out on a game. But maybe they're maybe they're the smartest guy in the room. I think they know that georgia would have destroyed them. And that's why vanderbilt not once but twice cancelled on playing georgia and now cincinnati gets to step into the ring with george offense. That's plane as well as any team in the country polit. The numbers are kind of ridiculous. Averaging almost five hundred yards of offense over forty points a gain. Jt daniels is converting at a sixty six percent clip on third down to put that into perspective alabama's at fifty nine so since jt. Daniels has been under center. Georgia's played magnificent. Now you gotta take into consideration who they've played right. They played that mississippi state team. You just saw. They played against south carolina. I'll be they didn't do anything with the ball in the fourth quarter but sit on it and they played against missouri again. Let the air out late in that game. Cincinnati brings in a pass defense. And we'll find out if the bear cats are paid for tigers but they're pass efficiency defense ranked number two in the country and they're in the top twenty in all these other categories. So we're going to find out. Just how real cincinnati this fall. Their players were talking about wanting to play tough and show that. They're just as tough as the sec. And they're going to get that opportunity against georgia. Mike on a bigger subject. And we've had a lot of debate about it here on the program. The opting out we shot with florida. We've seen it with a lot of schools. Georgia added a couple of years ago. Everyone has experienced this year. It's a little bit different. Can anything be done or is this just part of college football. Well i've said it before college. Football and sports is a microcosm of our society. And you know we're in a bit of an opt out world now when you think about you know people want and college loans paid for and and you know deadbeat dads and it's unfortunate. I think it's a matter of personal opinion and in what you feel like that student athlete. I don't wanna say owes. But there's an inferred agreement when you accept scholarship right. That program is gonna take care of you. They're going to train you. They're going to give you world class medical. They're going to give you tremendous facilities and build you in an nfl player. And sometimes it's two or three years before these guys really get on the field and contribute and you know now it's like okay. Well now i'm a star now. I'm out well. What about the first two or three years when the program was carrying you and you weren't on the field so there's a lot of different ways to look at it by the same token you look at the miami quarterbacks injury you think back to willis mcgahee and you say wow this. This young man has an opportunity to make a lot of earnings for his family and he doesn't want to risk it in a quote unquote meaningless game. So are these games meaningless again. That's up to the individual. I can tell you a lot of boosters and a lot of people that donate money and spend years rooting for these kids and stand in line for two hours at their autograph a day in one hundred eighty he. They'll tell you these games means something. But if there's not a playoff involved maybe they don't mean as much to the players as they once did i don't have the answer. I do think mainly with name. Image likeness when these players start signing actual contracts that they may have a little bit more of an obligation or if we extend a play off and there's more games that mean more. Let's look ahead to tomorrow afternoon and tomorrow night. The two playoff games. You've been Money on predictions all year long. We're curious do you see any. You see anything out of the ordinary happening tomorrow afternoon night. Yeah i can almost promise something out of the ordinary. But i'm not sure about an upset. So notre dame is played. What i guess. Three playoff games in title game since two thousand twelve and the average margin defeated twenty. Four points they came at twenty four point loss to to clinton i can't imagine notre dame beating alabama just that such as doesn't register in my brain is a possibility. It's just a matter of how much not if in that game. The other games a little interesting to me. No dabbles giving some bulletin board material talking to rank in ohio state number eleven explaining that he did date that they deserved as much credit as a texas. A&m team that played a full fledged scheduled versus just six games. Maybe had a rule change from the big ten in place clemson. Those never won the sugar bowl. Paul in the last time. Ohio state played in the sugar. I believe they beat alabama in the playoff kirby. Smart was the alabama defensive coordinator. Interestingly enough. I gotta try this with with georgia. That forty to thirty five. Mm ohio state win over alabama had a lot to do with how alabama and georgia changed their defensive fronts. Because of what. Ohio state did kirby actually tracked down time urban instead. Hey can you give me some insight. You put forty two on us. And and hermit did georgia's change to this mid front. I don't know who maybe kirby is going to have to chase down somebody else that change. How the secondary plays after the way. Florida and alabama went through them. But point of the matter is there's been a lot of history down there in the sugarbowl on the good side throw house stay on the bad side for clemson and you just kind of wonder if there might be some kind of new orleans voodoo ear with dabo sweeney. Maybe the buckeyes can get it together. The ohio state team that i saw play northwestern though they don't have shot stated better. Find some magic between that can title game and playing trevor lawrence because this tigers offense is for real and speaking of the game tomorrow the georgia cincinnati game. What are you expecting. Expect georgia to blow them out. I don't think that cincinnati's played a team with this much talent. This much speed. And i haven't seen anybody slow. Jt daniels down. I know that their cat defensive coordinator was a finalist for the royals award. Is it assistant. He's coming in talking about stopping. The georgia run game. And that's a good game plan but that tells me he might be given up something on the back end again. I haven't seen anybody slowdown. Jt daniels their explosive play. Rate is number two in the power five since. Jt daniels has gone under center and then on defense Yes georgia does have a couple of guys that opted out. But they've got some very important guys that opted in including their sacks leader aziz jewelry and big number ninety. Nine jordan davis. Who's a one man run stopper between the tackles. I think this cincinnati quarterbacks going to be running for his life making bad decisions. I expect georgia and win this game by four touchdowns. All migrelief of four touchdown win predicted over the dog over cincinnati. Mike happy new year. Thanks for everything. We will see you very soon. Appreciate it appreciate baseball. Happy new year. You got my griffis with a bold prediction. Dogged by four touchdowns. That's twenty eight points. If i can do the math correctly archbishop merino thirty minutes will continue to take your phone calls lot to react to and we are back with much more listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. And don't forget tomorrow as you're just waking up in the new year twenty twenty one. We'll be on at noon. Eastern time noon to three of look ins at some of the early games peach and citrus and reports from both arlington and new orleans. And most important your reaction to the games and talks about the. Cfp tomorrow at noon right here on the sec network earlier in the metroplex this is what happened. After mississippi state won the armed forces bowl over tulsa a melee broke out and it was very ugly. Not exactly sure what precipitated it but there were a lot of punching and kicking and all. That was a karate kick right there. Unfortunately it overshadow the fact that mississippi state won its second game of the year to close the season out at four and seven knocking off the runner up in the afc. Mike leach after the game your thoughts would happen after the game with that. Mealy between you guys. And i'm not sure what exactly caused that but you know know there was some before the game too. We've never had any talking with that the entire season. So i mean i can only guess about seeing the film but i know that prior to this game. We've never had trouble with that. What's your message to the team having seen. that afterward. don't do it anymore. You know. I mean yeah well it's just dumb you know. And then there was some of that Stuff going back and forth in the course of the game you know in in any of it on our side. I don't wanna see. Because i feel like i got shorted. What fifteen yards thirty yards on deals. Where if we just keep our mouths mike leach after the game in fort worth. Let's grab some calls here. Pat in saint louis. Hey paul thanks for taking my call thinking first time. Caller longtime listener guide to here. And i'd like to talk about How we can fix the college football playoff Although not through expansion. i'm all ears. Well i think throughout pretty much. The history of college football. There's always been four or five teams dominating in recruiting. And whether that's usc notre dame or alabama clemson lsu like it is right now. They're really the only teams that have a chance to win the national title or win the college football playoff. And that's why we're ended up with all these blowout semi's and that's also why if we expanded to eighteen right now we just be introducing four more blowouts to the playoff. Yeah i mean ultimately we were. We are where we are pad because the rich have continued to feast in recruiting off of their their harvest. Which is the college football playoff. And i you know every once in a while someone new shows up like georgia or lsu but primarily. It's alabama clemson. Ohio state oklahoma notre dame the last first time college football champion was florida in ninety six right along with scholarship limits. We need to introduce an average star rating limit. The average power five recruits star rating is three point. Two five last year bama average. Four point. two five you know. They're getting all the top talent. Yeah i understand that argument. But but i'm not sure there's really anything you can do that because you can't stop a team and a program from doing and striving to be excellent alabama clemson are. You can't put a. I mean you can't put a cap on. How many good players they can you well back. In the day bear bryant got all the topic recruits. There was no limit. Well but you know. I mean back. Then you're right. I i remember there was a story. I mean. Brian didn't even didn't even watch certain players but he went and got them to keep them away from auburn. Good idea. I like that strategy. But you can't do that anymore. Hey thank you for the call. Have a great new year. Appreciate your your calling today. If i get my board to work. Robin is up next. Hey robyn thank you. Yes metropol how are you. I'm great thank. You mr powell. If you can hear me only thing i want to say. I'm a alabama roll tide. But don't want thing. I want to stay you was i hope and pray you and your fan a list. Say in praise god a happy new year hilty wide. And i appreciate what you did. I enjoy listening to you. Thank you thank you very much robyn. I'm sorry we didn't. You couldn't hear me better but that means a great deal to all of us here and the same for your family. Thank you very much eugene in georgia. Hey you jane thank you so much for taking my call. I'm enjoying your show today and news to you appreciate that happy. I wanna ask you you know. I really enjoy listening to my griffith and he answered some questions about tomorrow's george game against cincinnati. I'd like to know where you think. Cincinnati would've finished this year in the big ten if cincinnati had played in the big ten. You had a caller earlier today. Who criticized very heavily. The sec and Mike leach and the mississippi state team I don't think brawls or something you wanna see. But i don't think that reflects all that terribly badly against the sec. As opposed to the other conferences but as far as cincinnati is concerned those teams in outside. The big ten are usually try their best to get you big ten teams. I'd like that where you think. Cincinnati would've finished if they played the big ten schedule this year. Paul g thank you for the call. I tell ya i. I'd rather wait until tomorrow to answer that question. Because i haven't really seen them. Against great opposition beating tulsa did not impress me. Now that i've seen tulsa lose to mississippi state which was really in the lower level of of our conference. Hey thanks for the call. We appreciate it very much. Eugene mentioned the archbishop at the top of the hour. We'll change gears a little bit. Maybe calm everyone down. It'd be a little more reflective about this year and a look ahead we are coming back with much much more. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast welcome back. Let me just explain we. We've had a very busy show. We talked in the first hour with pat. Dealy about what happened last night. In dallas with florida auto reaction to mike leach's comments in the melee that ended that occurred after the ending of the missing state. Victory today in the armed forces ball the next hour. We're going to speak with archbishop merino and at some point include. Your phone calls the final hour. We'll just leave up in the air calls reflections Whatever you would like as we close out twenty twenty so thanks again for being here. I know it's not happening on new year's eve even this year. So let's get back to the calls and check in with jeff who is up next. Hey jeff thanks good afternoon geoffrey their. Hello hey what's up april. How you doing buddy. I'm doing great jeff. What's going on with you. Yeah i can hardly hear you but that was my car. Listening to your description of that Brawled on their ball game. And i thought you were explaining an old school. I man game from tuscaloosa. Both you yeah. I think there are a few more punches thrown today then in one of those. Yeah hey how about your boy. Griffith the extra pepita steph. Today didn't he. After that florida's bok last night you could just tell he was dying to get to that. Talk about that game and is Georgia bulldogs i think grip of these again. The new drinking started. We all take shot every time. You mentioned j. T. daniel The the guy. I mean he loves. Jt one thing about jeff. He can paint the prettiest picture of the team. He's covering more than anyone else i've ever heard. I mean i can't wait for that. Cincinnati game navarre can you. I'm watching per share down to four or touchdown particular. I may can you. Can you help me jeff. Can you do me a favor. Because i have never. I'm making a confession here today. I've never bet on a football game in my life. It's not something that i grew up around. And i've i've stayed away from it. Even though i have friends who are book of my my my best friend growing up father was a bookie i people. I understand gambling but can you. Can you hook me up with a bookmaker in columbus. So i can bet some money on on on on georgia tomorrow. Because that's that's a lack of the year isn't it. Yeah i'll get a hold of my boy at all on talk to your people paul. We'll get that that bad for you by man thank you. Hey To people outside of watching that lord of the buckle. I know we haven't heard from this guy years. But can you imagine how much gas old lamp was huffing. Last man. I mean he helped so much gas. There's probably rashes tennessee. He he's he's one that came up with martin were-they accident. I have not heard from buddy martin. And i hope he's okay i do too. I love to hear his spinning on bullet comment because he usually can spin doctor own mollahs comment like like the best of them but those are the two people i thought But anyway paul. I just wanted to call and also a happy new year and hopefully looking for next year we can get back to real. You know the real deal of college football. Get these bama fans and everybody all riled up again. But i just wanted to get out of here because i know you've got the archbishop coming on and i'm sure your boy of down new orleans estate in front of a mirror tried to dazzle the archbishop with i'm sure all he's already on hold waiting to talk to and any anyway way. Paul you have a happy new year. let's Let's do it. The buckeyes can do the bar. I mean like. I said i. I don't know if i'm gonna watch the way everybody said harley. We don't have a change but if we pull it off. I'm flying you and earl buckeye roll up next year for a ballgame. Paul get after the right jeff next year in columbus. I'll be there. I made a vow this year. It wasn't possible. I think the archbishop's speaks six languages. So augie can have added a in talian latin french. Whatever he chooses. that's up to him. Let's talk to daddy for the last time in twenty twenty day. Greetings and salutations big bro. You good sounding good. Hope everybody to sorta pm have a happy new year. And i wish you'd have been at my house. They'll reader than the kitchen we got collard greens in the crock. Pot got black eyed pisa crock. Pot we've got cold riddle. Baked mark have us a great maria which can sit down and eat with kennedy. That sounds too good. Unfortunately i don't think i can chop her over there in time but they're telling me we're at a i hate. We'll talk soon. Thanks daddy happy new year to you in velveeta and we are coming back with one of our most eagerly anticipated segments of the year. The archbishop coming to us live from rome. Do you own rent your home show you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Hour 2: Mike Griffith

"Dead more time to listen to yours truly by going to shell and getting things done at once. I fill up with shell. V power nitro plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally snack up to save even more at the pump. Make the most of the stop you need to make with. Shell the pride passion and pattern tree of college. Football leaves here. This is the paul finebaum. Show our to podcast pro. Welcome back second. Hour is live busy first. Our and we're not going to stop now. Nathan is up next. Good afternoon nathan. Doing we are doing great. Thank you do questions here at i. Start off Nicole i call earlier. I agree with a lot of the stuff that she was saying. As far as a you know spending the the playoff scenario and everything But ohio state. I mean games. I don't think they should be. But anyway i question is hypothetically if one of the four teams was able to get out and florida does get a chance to beat alabama. Do you see a chase of getting in that i do. I think they would have the best win of the year in college football and that would have to be weighed very heavily and their lost is pretty good too if if texas a and m. wins this weekend that loss helps them. The lsu is still something to deal with but it's pretty obviously wasn't too upset by that. Yeah and i think going back to it. Whatever you're sitting there looking at that was. I was surprised that they only move at one spot whenever you look at the few that right there behind him. Am that went over. Florida so they wanna had. I frankly think people were making too much out of it. It's circumstantial they're giving iowa state an opportunity. should win against. Oh you to move up. But florida still has to get over texas. Am and and that's a really interesting conversation You know they've done something couldn't do but they've also lost to a team today and embiid so it. It's a really tough conversation if it comes down to that. Yeah i'm thinking you know we won't. Am to win. But we want to win close. I think i think florida's best shot is is is notre dame winning and northwestern winning to they could i think florida is not going to get in unless absolute chaos occurs. Kevin is in north carolina. And you're on the air. Hey kevin way paul. Thanks for letting me visit again. If you've been well cutting and happy holidays everybody Out there I got to agree with the With the gentleman you had on yesterday from the ac I thought this was going to be a fiasco seven eight years ago when they go into this committee simply. Because i've been on the planet as long as you have basically paul and You know recognized Not everybody has the correct moral or ethical compass and You know people have everybody on. That board is connected to one school run conference or another and you can't tell me that they have favoritism and or warm feelings towards That where they do have favoritism more feelings to that conference. 'cause they're human beings as a a loyalty thing which i'm big on the bottom line. I don't think they can separate those loyalties to that conference and or school. And then you throw in the money that that school and or conference would get for being in the final four It's a fiasco. I mean if If everybody was perfect morally and ethically than we wouldn't need police or we wouldn't need lawyers or you know Everybody would be married One time in their life it's just I guess I'm knocking human nature In a big big way. I've just been on the planet too damn long tall and We should go to the Back to the computer Situation the blind taste test of always loved You know school xs playing better And has better wins in school. Y and a story and you know i might give in any particular year You know it would give A cinderella chance to get in the final four. You know. that's the thing that i think i mentioned to you and And tim You know the thing that really a lot of people's butter in the ncaa tournament is but But i love those stories like anyone but college. Football is not built like basketball. Where you you give sixty eight teams a chance. And i will defend the sport in this regard for all those who want to keep you out. It's sunbelt invitational same. Same teams. Well guess what alabama and clinton are better than pretty much everyone else so it was ohio state so this year you get coastal you get. Louisiana are some intriguing stories. And they'll get their moment. But does anyone really believe that. Coastal could beat alabama in a straight up game or or clemson really. I know louisiana. Beat iowa state. But that's i always state okay. Well i concur what you said tall but it is a long shot but i i just I you know. I'll go to my grave knowing and thinking that a computer is more ethical and A better way of doing this and human beings. I don't think the bad idea. I mean the bcs used three. Different elements of the computer was part of it. It did take the human element out. Yeah i mean. I am underwhelmed by this committee. And here's my biggest issue with the committee. They're not transparent Let let us know what goes on inside that room. Don't give us that garbage on tuesday night. Where the guy that guy guy is given a script and he has to adhere to it because he can't speak for on what he really believes because he's the only one to thirteen people in In that committee were right. You know it's the same old. No it's pathetic You can't can't lines. It really is not even worth time You know i. I concur on that again. But i just think they need to go back to cause Here here here's here's the fly in the ointment kevin. I remember roy. Kramer once said this many many years ago he was somewhat the father of the former. Sec commissioner he believed that all of this conversation the day after was good for the sport. And i think it was a problem. Now is people are getting turned off people when when they hear the morning shows on. Espn radio shows. And whatever other shows they don't they don't. They're not compelled to really care anymore. The audience is go is going down as opposed to up. So that's why you have to do something. This is also the entertainment business so if you open the door to let a few more possibilities in maybe maybe one of those upsets occur in the first round the nfl. You see it We saw last year where you know. The wildcard teams can advance. The wildcard team advanced all the way last year. So there's nothing wrong with that but in college football such a such an elite club that It just doesn't. It doesn't permit that to happen. We're running with that theme paul. I mean the only club. I mean it seems to me and i think there's a lot of people might camp because the computer I it seems to me that the power size Talk about cutting the group of five out going to committee Yes the club of the power five love to see that so-called eyeball committee nonsense. Come into play but cabinet. I hate to. I hate to run. Because we're up against a break but ultimately everyone's got their own vested interest and you know we are now relying on the same people who broke up on the eve of the college football season to put it back together again. These commissioners could not agree on a universal plan to play a season in the middle of a pandemic. so now we're expecting them to come back together again and agree on something that might hurt one or or or both or three or four or five of their conferences. These guys don't think like that. We are coming back more to come more on the program. More money calls. My griffin's will join us can't wait to talk to him he's up next. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast wha- one step was white once last thing back running with elite. Qb's kenneth on clutch td's across nova step behind the cloud. Because you know with the thirty for thirty. Two push bruce lee showing no mercy fat five got the crew on deck. G goes deeper. That's a fact. Espn download now. Well case you haven't heard the playoff is about to begin five pm on new year's day. Sugar bowl eight forty five in the championship game on january eleventh always great to Welcome back mike griffith to the program and mike. Let's start with the georgia bulldogs. After a spectacular saturday. They were hoping for one more game. It had already been postponed and now it has been canceled in what has been the reaction there and can anything be done about well. We're not gonna probably ever have anything like this in the future but really curious about your thoughts. Yeah a lot of fury. A lotta anger at georgie. No i it's twofold one georgia's playing great football. Jt daniels i mean before jt. They convert forty two percent of the third downs with jt. They convert sixty six right. Jt daniel six touchdown passes on on third down throws three incompletions. I mean the guys night and day. It's been amazing. Some people maybe. It's the schedule actually know if you look at the third down defense is the last. Three teams actually ranked better than the first six on average. What georgia's played. This guy has made all the difference in the world. It makes a difference in recruiting. Suddenly you have players. That are migrating to georgia that. Want to be a part of the georgia offense again so this transformation is happening in the shadows. Now that's georgia's fault. They didn't take care of business when they needed to jacksonville or in tuscaloosa and so they're sitting out this week so you don't get to see it but it's been happening on saturdays in athens and this georgia outgoing class. All these guys had an opportunity to be the winningest class in georgia football history. That's quite a legacy. But because vanderbilt canceled out all they can do is tie that mark now and so the a piece of their legacy is gone understand. Covid nineteen is not controllable but in the case of vanderbilt its players that are quitting the team and in the case of vanderbilt they cancelled on december fifth rally the troops for their senior day on december twelve and then canceled on georgia again. After the fact so georgia couldn't even get an alternative game that was acceptable for the senior day. So there's a lot of of anger and frustration and disappointment and all george can do now is hope that they get a good bowl draw. I think they need notre dame to upset clemson. I think if that happens. And if chalk holds and ohio state beat the bad northwestern and alabama roles florida. You could see georgia clemson in the orange bowl and i think that could excite the georgia fan but as things currently project. You're looking maybe. Cincinnati georgia in which case. Maybe some georgia guys opt out and say you know what it's cincinnati. It's it's not a real game. I know the people in cincinnati will love that. Hey let me ask you this. And i realize this is a talk show and callers get fired up but after watching jt daniel. We had a couple calls monday. And normally i say enough already but these people really believe that things would have been different if jt had been able to to get healthier sooner d. Do you think the florida game had a different outcome will sure and you know and listen. Here's why florida had nine possessions in the first half because george went three and out on four out of five series. I mean this if you put cal. Trask back on the field. And you don't make him move. I told he's pop pop. Pop you make a move. We saw we falls apart right. Pick six three turnovers against the bad lsu but if you let that guy get a speech still and you let him play pop shop and you keep putting him back on the field. Like georgie did and give him nine possessions in the first half he'll kill you. Listen let me tell you. Alabama's game plan paul. They're going to run the ball because the first way to beat cal. Trask is to keep him off the field because if he's on the field and he gets in rhythm and he plays poppy shot and doesn't move his feet. he'll destroy. Now good defenses can make moot but to your point. Yes absolutely would have been different as i said. This is a guy who can move the ball around and throw the downfield pass now. Kirby smarter tell you. That starts in bennett. Was winning fourteen zero before he got the shoulder shot that required the the the pain shot at halftime. then he couldn't hit broadside farm. I'm not convinced that's bennett. Wooded came back in and won that game heading not injured his shoulder. I don't know what would happen. They were up fourteen zero. I don't think it's a stretch though to say that. A team of the good quarterback beach florida. I told you way back. When i thought george would win that game and the reason i thought george would win. That game is because i thought they would get to. Jt daniels coming into that game coming off the bench. That's what i really believed. I didn't think it would be doin'. Math is up next. I thought it would be. Jt and jt. Is that good of a guy. I mean paul. This guy was a five star. This guy was playing. At usc as a freshman put three hundred and forty seven yards or three seventy four notre dame when he was supposed to be a senior in high school so this guy is a very skilled passer. He's very good. he's got room to grow. He's got to get a little more building back. He's got a bit thicker. Stronger is clocks. gotta a little faster. Uni sec now dude. Don't sit back there. They'll kill ya. Missouri delivered some shots on them right. But yes. I do think that it doesn't help out to play that game and i really don't want insult florida. Because they were the team that was prepared. They were the team that had answers. Oh by the way. Lsu was able to florida with the third string quarterback so kudos to lsu for recruiting that deep it quarterback and in shame on georgia for not having a quarterback that could beat florida in their biggest game of the year piggybacking off. Just assuming that alabama wins this game. And i think i'm reading you correctly. They will then in. Georgia is able to get a bowl win. I mean it's entirely possible after all this back and forth. The georgia is going to finish ahead of florida this year. In the rankings. You like kirby said when we were talking to them about splitting the east champion before vanderbilt. So now they won't even do that. Because they're seventy two and florida's eight into you know vanderbilt congratulating themselves pending himself on the back for seeing the season through even though they become the first team in history not to finish season in the sec. When everybody else does. But that's that's nationals problem. Okay that's vanderbilt. Gets a little different treatment. If we're going to be honest about it but yes. That's a consolation prize. all listen. They lost to the gators and dan. Mullen and kyle trust in kyle pits and tony. These guys deserve credit. Because you can say what you want about what would have been or you can say what you want about. What would happen tomorrow. But on the day it counted the florida gators showed up and they got it done in georgia's got to live with it. Let me tell you. That's a sore spot. There is a lot of very angry people paul because they're aware of your narrative they're aware of they know what you're saying. They know what a lot of people are saying florida's past kirby was asked about that the other day this press conference. It is recruiting prescott. I thought he was going to come out of his shoes. You don't listen. This is not a narrative that anybody here is comfortable with. Nobody believes the florida's a better team than georgia right now. I don't even know if half the people of florida believe that but the fact of the matter is is they beat georgia win it counted and so they get to play in the championship game. They get a chance to knock off the crimson tide. They get a chance to go to the playoffs in cal. Trask chance to vindicate himself. After that performance against lsu if he beats alabama poll. He's right back in the heisman conversation as it is. He's in the top four five. But you don't you don't see that happening so let's not to act like it's going to. What do see happening on saturday night. I think alabama's going to run the football. I think they're going to have an effective efficient offense like nick saban does. He knows that he needs to keep that. Florida offense off the field and run the ball effectively They don't have a quarterback with the mobility that that young max johnson showed for those lsu tigers and what a hero he is margaret's nephew by the waste from about ten miles away from athens incidently. But they don't have a quarterback but they've got nause in nauseous the best running back in college football and they're going to run the ball and be brutally efficient and probably win the game by three touchdowns. I'd probably say forty five twenty one forty five twenty four something to that effect. The gators do have some playmakers. I think they'll show some effort. I think the rebound putting pits out. There makes that offense very different. He's a very special player. Who i who i would have said would have been heisman. He just missed too. Many games like just in fields. Right so i think alabama has very efficient effective game plan and wins this game. Forty five twenty four five twenty one something like that. What did you learn about their future. Yesterday with georgia's recruiting class. Not as much as i'm going to learn about about the retention right. Say it's gonna be so important. Who comes back for george. These guys come in. Look i can tell you. They got four great offensive. Linemen coming in they've got the two top outside linebackers in the country. that are coming in georgia. They signed up to cornerbacks. They really need three or four. Look for georgia to add another one. The of transfer portal bolt their corners. Probably going to the nfl. You got some big questions retention wise though can they be clemson and alabama and bring back. These players who could go is second and third and fourth rounders. Maybe they come back to georgia to be first rounders guys. Like jordan davis the nose hecklers jewelry currently number three on mel kiper 's outside linebackers list. Can you return those underclassmen. That could make difference. Because that's what alabama's why nausea harris for alabama. I think what if the andre swift would come back for georgia right. When alex leatherwood for alabama i said what if what if salman kinley or isaiah wilson. What jake frahm would it came. Back and played quarterback could accommodate quarterback had beaten florida the swamp that day. I believe so. But those guys are going pro early so to get to the next level and win national championships. You've got to have retention. You have players that want to stay in maybe not necessarily all about the title to recognize the value of going in the first half of the first round of the nfl draft because that gives them a better chance at the second contract in the nfl where you make more money. It's a roll the dice but is this a program. That's worth it to them. That we're georgia's got to get paul. They can stay with alabama on the front end in the recruiting rankings. But they gotta get where alabama's on the back end with that retention and getting these key players to return for another season before you go you you used to live in alabama. You covered alabama auburn. I'm curious just from across the border and a few miles your take on what's happening with happened. And what is currently happening at auburn. I lived in alabama for seven years and that was my first. Sec beat in nineteen. Ninety-three remember. paul. We talked about it. And i said gus malzahn could be on the hot seat with this offense after they struggled and didn't get in the end zone against georgia's is we talked about before the game and sure enough. It happened it came to fruition. I thought gusted had done enough to save his job. I guess i just wanna know. What's the endgame here. Because when i covered auburn it was all about beating alabama and. That's something that gus. Malzahn did on a historical note as good as any auburn coach in history. I gotta give gus malzahn and he might have had the personality of and undertaker it to the outside world but when he was on the sidelines a very good offense kept you know he didn't do anything crazy off the field you know. I thought he was a very good representative for the school. You know kind of the yangtze bruce yang down there they were good duo right little bit menard couple but it worked okay. I think kevin steele is a veteran. I hear some people moaning and groaning. Let me tell you. This is a great football coach. This is one of the most highly respected people in the college football business. I thought he was going to get the job at tennessee. you know. he's originally tennessee. I thought that's who phillip fulmer was gonna hire. He went for jeremy pruitt. Mel tucker was another candidate is up there in east lansing now but i thought kevin steele was going to be the heat. You talk about it. Just universally respected and don't want to hear what happened at baylor. Who cares okay. Bill belichick flop with the cleveland brown. Kevin steele's had good football coach. And i don't have anything against him and i don't think there would be anything wrong with that selection because he would hire a knockout staff and he knows how to run a program but as far as a a sexy crazy pick. Let's face it who's freezes the name that's out there if you reach for him. Do you know what comes with that you know. What are you willing to take on. Can't use any the word but baggage. Do you want to take that on a roll of the dice. Man you take on a guy that you're taking some big chances where i think kevin steele is a guy. That's a more solid proven now. can he. Match what gus did i talked with a buddy tommy dis. You probably familiar time. you discover alabama. He said you know what should have happened. Auburn should switch coaches sent tom. Herman auburn. and gus malzahn texas tommy. That's one heck of an idea. I think both those schools would have been so. I'm a little surprised by the decision paul. But it's auburn their the little guys. They always try harder chip on the shoulder. And we'll surprised. They made this move but they did. And we'll see how soon they're singing. You against alabama again. Well done always great to have my griffeth on. We always appreciate these thursday afternoon visit. We are coming back after this and you know what he mentioned about. Kevin steele is accurate. Kevin steele nearly got to tennessee job a couple years ago and i wonder if phillip fulmer is wondering why he went out and brought in an alabama guy who hasn't been successful versus hiring a man who were the orange uniform on rocky top. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast we're back great to have all of you here and sam is up next sam. Welcome yeah i just like to ask you. Don't you think this. Sec championship may be a little over. Dan mullen said why. Would you say that well. He was at mississippi state if they got a bowl that that was a big deal but the sec championship. That's completely different. Well don't forget. Dan mullen was at florida before he was at mississippi state as the coordinator. He won an sec championship. Game there in two thousand eight and he has a lot of experience. I mean i think we're long past the point of of factoring in what he did at mississippi state and this is his third season at florida but if water nick savings player had picked up a shoe and threw it you think he would after the ball game like nothing ever happened. Well i i think nick sabin would've been very predictable and what he said. Hey thanks for the call appreciate it. I'm not sure how any that computes. But kevin is up next in louisiana. Hey kevin kevin you there. Thank you the best excess onto the appreciate them swallowed you now but I've been Turned onto you. Go to my son. Kevin and dr hitting alabama's the way of big rivalry between our even in alabama. I wanna talk about the playoffs. We've got to get victims soon playoff because there's not a two episode station for the nascent. Make not not fair to the recruiting if we don't have all the teams mason representative. I understand this argument cabin But i'm also saying that unless it expands that cannot come to fruition if it does expand which i think it should then you then you let a little more of the non power five team in the country something to cheer about you get to pack the pac twelve in there but as long as it stays at four it is not going to be any better than it is this year last year or the year before. Exactly and it's all about money saving. I've never understood i. It's about money and there is a lot of money involved and it's also about protecting feifdoms but there's just a feeling out there that the big conferences don't want anyone else involved but i think the big twelve is likely to get shut out this year. The pac twelve this seemingly shut out every year. No that's not true. They've been there twice but a frustration has to be growing. And i think you heard it. Last night from micro esco representation. Otherwise got four to to get all the can. You know you're you're you're right. I mean the the fact that alabama clemson ohio state is in there every year results in them than doing as well as they have done. And i think it's a little bit unfair to get all upset about alabama's in there every year. Well there's a reason in there every year. They weren't in their last year. Clemson has missed a year. But they've been consistent and they've been great and they recruit particularly well. Ohio state the same way. But i think we've reached a boiling point and and again sometimes a all. This goes away after sunday. Depending on how sunday goes and if the playoff is good. But we've been. We've i don't remember the last time every game was good. We usually get a bad one. Bad playoff game. Maybe good one and then last year the last two years the championship game has been dreadful the alabama and again. That's your circumstantial. We've had some epoch alabama clemson games in the championship but these certain things. You cannot predict appreciate the call. Mark is up next in tennessee mark. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey paul Really enjoyed the conversation. That's going on today by question has to do with. I'm i'm agreeing with everything you're saying. I think we've reached the boiling point. I think the beauty contest of the same old same old every year is getting really old. My question is what would it calls to cancel this contract. We offer coaches all the time and get ready to buy twenty million dollars. How much is this contract work. Why can't we council start over again. Well remember a couple of things about this contract. This is a contract between the college football playoff. Which is the the governing body of of college football the power five schools for the most part any any. Espn so It was a twelve year deal. You just can't go in there and cancel it because Espn is the most valuable partner you have. And they're also stipulations in every contract that if you cancel it it will cost you an enormous amount of money and by the way. There's no reason i mean. I know this is awkward. Because i worked for. Espn but people at espn maintain that they're not involved in this. They are just a partner to broadcast. They don't tell the college football playoff committee what to do. Or how many games to play. But it seems to me. This is a i agree with you on that. Become president of espn demand that I'll be the first one to vote for you at the moment there. They always say the at moment. The job's not open. But here's the problem. Espn would benefit. I think by by having more games but why let me. I don't mean to be a professor here. But why i just throw this out to the audience and then i'm going to answer my own question. Why do people why. Why is there up. Why are there obstacles. What wide does the commissioner of the big twelve. Big ten the sec. Why are they opposed to expanding. Well here's the reason. If you expand the playoff you you diminish one of the most valuable games of the season and that game happens to be the one on saturday. The sec championship game is the most watched game of the year. Outside of the play offs The big ten championship game has seen by a lot of people. This this year the acc will be seen by a record crowd. We had fowler on the other day. He's doing the game and if in those were big events the forget this year but in in a normal year. You you pack the city of atlanta charlotte indianapolis and there is a tremendous residual and it also gives the member institutions something to play for. And if you expanded by more than than where we are. There's not going to be a big demand to get to atlanta to get to wherever because if you're a team and that's the that's the that's the battle right now and i don't think they have been able to solve it but you know what they need. They lied to. Because i want to see more teams in the playoffs. Hate to run. We're heading to a break and more to come including greg mcelroy. We are coming back with more of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five right after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast welcome back here. Thursay late late thursday afternoon. I should say how about jim in knoxville tennessee. Hey jim they call. Thanks for taking my call for big orange country to hear from you. Listen man i always. I'm always reluctant to be one of these guys. That knows the guy and he's got some inside information but let me just set the scene here for you a little bit. okay. I've got a niece who is On campus as a. Ut student have a good friend who is the vendor up. His business takes him into the football complex. Weekly another friend. Who's a vendor out and his business takes him kneel on a weekly basis and listen to what i'm hearing from all of these people who are in and out of campus on a daily basis is. There's just almost A a a funeral atmosphere right now on campus at ut and what they're all hearing and what they're all talking about that regardless of what happened saturday afternoon Coach pruitt's gone The the power brokers have had their fill. They've got their guy and they'll be a transition by next weekend. Now you got a lot of feelers out in knoxville. You've got a lot of fellow alums. Who worked for the network there. You chris lows in the jerry punches. Are you hearing anything from anybody. That has any credence beyond word of mouth. Jim i do have a lot of friends there. And i have not heard that i i would. I heard part of what you said that there is a malays knoxville and understandably so but i have not heard anyone tell us that they believe that phillip fulmer would be willing to make this move and i still believe that coach fulmer has tremendous influence there. And he's earned it and this is his pick and i don't know what he's going to say to support it. I think saturday is critical. Just from an optical standpoint if tennessee puts up a good effort and i can't believe i'm even saying that then former can come out and say well you know. This was a tough year blah blah blah. But we're hopeful but he didn't look like recruiting was particularly exciting yesterday. And that's that's a disappointment. And i just don't know how philip can can stand before the cameras at some point and make a convincing argument now having said that i have. I have yet to hear anyone who believes that he will pull the trigger fair enough. Thanks brother thank you. And i think this is one of these classic conundrums gym where you've got a man and fulmer who is beloved and who's been there before You know he. He's he's one of the greatest coaches in tennessee history and he found himself on the hot seat and saw a group push him out and it's easy to say that the program has not been the same sense. Had the university. Said you know what we believe. You coach i. You're having a tough time. You know you know. Go go turn this thing around. And had he done that you know. Maybe maybe he'd still be the coach instead of you know four coaches later and four athletic directors and four chancellors in an absolute disaster. Hey thank you for the call. I do appreciate it. And let's check in with gregg. Who is up next. Hey greg thanks. Good afternoon paul at great to have you me on the show thank you. I am a high school football coach. I'm not coaching down in the panhandle in florida coach majority of my career in alabama And earned a lot of respect for for bill clark and what he's done as as a coach at the high school level and also at the college level. He's kind of worked his way up. I don't hear his name. Being mentioned a whole lot as a candidate for the author. And when you look at is overall body of work. He's one everywhere he's being. He knows how to build a program. He's an old school coach. He coaches fundamentals. He knows how to put a great staff together. I think he'd be a great candidate for the auburn jobs. You wanted to get your take on that coach. Thank you i i agree with you. I mean for those who don't know and you know this bill was a fantastic high school coach at pratt. Bill right outside of along gumri. He's done at every level of college football. I don't under-. I haven't talked to bill a couple of months. I don't know he's just content to do what he's doing. You know they have this new stadium about to open and he has been at the vanguard of that but someone is making A big mistake. Trying to hire him. Because i think he could turn around Any program hey. Thank you for saying that. And i appreciate your call. And he is liked by everyone he. He's not some guy calling reporters and getting his agent throw his name in jobs that he has no business. Even being a part of like like a lot of coaches he just does his job and he's playing for conference championship again tomorrow night. We'll take a break. Greg will join us. Greg mcelroy in a couple of minutes. We'll look at the heisman in the final hour. More of your phone calls right around the corner. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern.

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"I time for all the big stories of the day. We haven't gotten to yet. This is the scoop with Anthony. Davis likely staying. Put in Los Angeles former Laker Brandon Ingram has a strong cases. The top free agent in the two thousand twenty class, hitting the market as an all star under the age of twenty four free agency is expected to open a few. Few days after the end of the playoffs in late October, Ingram is a restricted free agent which means New Orleans. We'll have a chance to match what he has offered. But do you think Brandon Ingram will get a Mac deal? I do think he deserves it and he is a great guy and David Griffin, the GM and New Orleans is one of the smartest. GM's in the league I would be shocked. Mace absolutely shocked. If Brandon Ingram got away from the PELICANS. I literally cannot picture a scenario under which David. Griffin would allow that to happen now. I could be wrong. COVID and pandemic, and this weird season that we hope happens may change all the rules. I know the caps going to come down next year. But they've got a great young roster in New Orleans. They have gone I would imagine that. Griff wants to team up. Zaylon and Brandon Ingram as the cornerstones of that franchise for the next ten years, and that's what I think's going to happen. Yeah I think it is. Highly Unlikely that Griffin, let's Ingram. I mean he was the centerpiece of the Anthony Davis Trade. He was the he was the biggest chip in that in that trade, so we got a great young raw through this. The Anthony Davis trace may turn out to be one of those rare deals work. For both sides, yeah, the other one that comes to mind that involved the Lakers was the POW Ghazal deal. As soon as the Lakers traded for Pao Gosol, the Lakers went to three straight finals winning. Two of them and POW became I think he's getting his number retired and hung in the rafters at Staples Center one day, and and the grizzlies were able to get marcus all POWs brother, who is the one of the main guys in in their development that took them to the Western Conference finals a few years later, so this New Orleans Lakers trade may turn out to be that way. Okay Mason an emergency services worker who staff the Dugout at minute maid park during Game Two of the twenty nine. L. C. S. Yeah is suing the Astros for over a million dollars for alleged significant injuries. He suffered as a result of a line drive foul off the bat of Michael Brantley the Worker Brian Carey Ota was working as a dugout paramedic in an area unprotected by netting on October thirteenth, twenty nineteen in the bottom of the fifth, according to the lawsuit Bradley's land drive hit him above the left eye, traveling one hundred eight miles per hour when it made impact, the lawsuit alleges the reason the netting had not been extended past the Dugout to the area were Carolina was sitting is because it would have obstructed the team's efforts to steal signs. So other what the the lawsuit is saying is that had the astros not been trying to steal signs? They would've followed the lead of a lot of other major league teams, and put netting up all the way down the line, and this was for which world series. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred. Thirteen twenty, one, thousand, nine, hundred, okay. Last year Yep do you think this is a legitimate complaint? Or perhaps the victim, taking advantage of the fact that the Astros cheated. They know they cheated. They put together to and two came up with this loophole legal strategy and they're trying to cash in on it. What do you got to believe if you're a stadium employees, a team employee? You're somehow. I mean there's there's always the risk you're going to get hit by. A rather drive remember in the back of your ticket. And also in a PA, announcement they say the dodgers are happy to have you keep any foul ball hit into the stands during the course of play, but if you are hit or struck way, we don't assume liability. I mean they. They go out of their way. That says right on the back of. Of the ticket we, we assume no liability. If you get hit by a ball, right so in this case. Do you think this guy's got a case I? Don't I. Don't I think he's a team employees. I think somewhere along the line. He has agreed to the fact that he He has to stay alert at all times to avoid a line drive. I think he's got no case whatsoever. I'll see. It's an interesting strategy. I'd have to see when other teams put the nets up. Did did the Yankees who they were playing in that AOL, CS. Did they have nets up? You know I'm GonNa. Follow it. It's going to be interesting to see how that turns out. All right British police said this week. They've arrested twelve year old boy after an English premier league player. Shared. Images where he shared images of racist messages. He had received via social media and one of the messages. The kids sent an image of a Klan rally to Crystal Palace's Wilfried Zaha. Saying you better not score today. CZAJA's from the Ivory Coast now. The Premier League will be seeking a lifetime ban for this twelve year old kid. Question. Should the kid's name be released? Should there be a criminal charge here and should the parents be punished? Great questions all three of them. No I don't think is named should be released. I think a lifetime. Sadly is appropriate because they need to make an example out of this kid and I think the ban should extend to the parents I think you need to make it so uncomfortable even for a twelve year old. To spew that racial crap that that people including parents and anyone else who's at that game just makes it. It's so unacceptable that no one will ever consider doing right. No I want to publicly shame the guy and put his name out there. No, I don't want the parents to get sued, but I do that. Whole family to be banned from the EP L. Forever in made an example out of I, think just that story the fact that they've made an example out of them will send a message. Yeah I agree with you. I don't think the kids names should be released. He does have another seventy years or eighty years on this earth. And? Nobody wants to be haunted by what they did is a twelve year old kid. At the same time. It seems like an criminal charge. Shouldn't shouldn't be. On a twelve year old kid but I like your idea. First of all. I love the idea that he's banned for life as a twelve year old. Secondly you're right banning the parents at some point, the and I don't know I'm not a parent is apparent responsible for what their twelve year old kid does. Yeah, especially if it's that kind of hate. The kid wasn't born that way mace. You don't come out of the womb hating people that have different color skin than you. You learn it somewhere along the way, and if that was my kid, I would accept a lifetime ban and I would immediately take it upon myself. I would make it my life's work to teach that kid about acceptance and not just you know we talked about. About the difference between not being a racist, and you know making a difference being it, you know what what was the way that you phrased it the difference between being anti-racist and something else but it. You've got racism. Racism isn't a black person's problem. It's a white person's problem and people that do this need to be shouted down. I'm okay with it. All right as for USC QUARTERBACK JT Daniels. Let it be on Monday that the. NCAA has granted him immediate eligibility at Georgia for twenty twenty. That means he could start for Georgia this fall if there's the season Anna three years left of college eligibility, he'll compete for the starting job this year. Two questions here number one will USC regret letting Daniels get away and to your USC fan. Will you root for Daniels if he's playing anybody other than USC. I first of all I've, he is an unbelievably talented kid so and and you know I will I will root for him. I definitely hope that he has a has a good college career. In terms of whether or not. It's disappointing that he got away USC. Regret letting him get away. Yeah, I mean I think USC is unbelievably comfortable with Keaton Slovaks who had a tremendous year last year. Matt think is back. It would be. It would be fantastic to have jt, Daniels, as the quarterback and waiting, but it's unfair to ask a kid that talented to wait, so I'm sure USC would love to have him on the roster, but kaeding slopes solidified as the starter, and that's the right guy for the job, and by the way you answer. Your answer was one hundred percent correct. Look, no further than Joe Borough. Joe Borough was beat out for the starting quarterback job at Ohio state. He was a scholarship. At Ohio State. When he got beat out, he left you went to Lsu completely transformed his game, won the heisman trophy and was the number one pick in the draft. If that happened to jt Daniels and I was a USC Fan, I'd be happy for Daniels. Yes, long as he doesn't come back and beat my team I think he didn't slow. This is a great player. IF DANIELS TURNS OUT TO BE JOE borough more power to him Yup. All right so among the activities then NBA players in the bubble have done so far include the following. Golf Fishing Ping Pong Shooting Beers. That's Jj Redican Meyers, Leonard. Riding a bike around that's Javale McGee brought his bike. Playing the guitar that's Nick Nurse who plays the guitar. Video Games, which is a lot of guys and walking paths. John from that list if you were in the bubble, what would I forgot Cornhole Cornhole is the other thing Cornhole Ping. Pong Of the things on the list. which do you think you would be doing? If you were in the bubble right now? I'd be golfing every day. Golf was on your list for eight. And being the great thing about golf is you're outside? You're getting exercise and it takes a long time, so you know you'd be. You'd be out there for four four and a half hours, and by the time you came back, you'd be ready to go to practice and there's your day. So of all those things golf would would be the one, but I wouldn't read that list I. wondered what it would be for because you don't go. Fishing I love fishing. Fishing seen some of I've seen some of the bass that that NBA players have reeled in the last couple of days. It's really impressive. You don't get fishing. Fishing is is a phenomenal sport. Yet so impressive that they they pre released all these already grown bass. They stop the Lakers. Yes, there, of course they did that. If they catch him and they releasing them, or they eaten them. Yeah, I think they have to go. They're releasing them yeah. What's the fun of that? If you catch a fish thrown back! What sport! Sport. I grew up as an angler. I am an Angler John a born Erno Angler Angler born Angler. You born to do it. When's the last time you baited a hook? Be Honest. When's the last time I baited a hook? That's a good question. It's probably would have been Lake Erie in Sandusky when when? I own that. That was. Eight nine years. Yeah, that's my point. Born Angler having morning nine years. We used to go out for purge. We used to go out for Walleye. We go out for trout ridiculous. Go out for Bass, not a good eating fish, but go out for Bass. We even John. We even did something called I see Bassett. Restaurants in past good eating. FRESHWATER BASS is not is not a great. Fish doesn't have a big fillet to it. I gotTA. We send you to the restaurants I'm going to man. I can't afford the restaurant circle. We even did something called dipping for Smelt. Do you know what Smelt Dr? I'm afraid to ask their their freshwater fish there little. They're almost like sardines. You know the only time I've ever heard that word. Yep, he who smelt it dealt it. Yeah, that's true. That's true, so is this great fish? Fish little tiny kind of like sardines. You fry them up and they're absolutely delicious, but at nighttime we would go, and we'd get this big net, and we dip it underwater and just pull up a ton of smelt and dump them into a cooler, and then put the net back in the water, a ton of smelt. We used to come back with smelt does not sound appealing. A ton of smelt made a really good meal John. Some of US had deficient hunt for our dinner. Yeah. I don't think you're one of them. All right there. You have your your scoop four today. Coming up next John. It's our Karen of the day. Yeah, and also are we supposed to have this mystery guest? Is this happening oh? Is this coming up now? That's coming up next. Oh the mystery guests! Oh, forget about the Karen, we can save her. There's a mystery guest. Coming on unless it's three guest is Karen to to wish John a fifty happy fifty seventh birthday manner wheeled. I'm much younger than you. You're fifty five. Yeah, two years younger. We're from different generations different generations younger. You know what's crazy about that is I technically am from a different generation. Yeah it, it breaks right on the. Generation X. baby-boomer line. Babies and your the beginning of the Gen-x Yup I so John I think you'll be pleasantly surprised a who what mystery gas got lined up for you. That is coming up next Mason and Ireland seven ten espn seventeen espn. Mason in Ireland. It is John Ireland's fifty seventh birthday today yeah. said they wouldn't make it to fifty. Did. You used to think you wouldn't make it to fifty I could never picture myself in my fifties and now I couldn't. Either I couldn't picture my friends with a bunch of guys like that are older than me, and they're all doing great like billy Mac and worthy and all those guys. It's hard to billy. Mack is older than you yeah. Four years who went to the same high school? Billy, Max Peter Pan He's eternally young here he is, he is Peter Pan. He's floating through life. Yes, successfully, so we've got a mystery guests. That's GONNA come onto the show in a minute here and it's somebody. I think the way this is gonNA. Work is John. You'll get eight. Yes, or no questions okay to figure out who it is. or no questions, okay but it's definitely somebody that you know, and you're going to ask them to the mystery guest and the mystery guests low using disguised voice answer yes, or no to your question. Okay. I'll have to I'll have to get creative. Okay, this is a good good little gag play. Games twice today Game Games twice. Lynched we have him yet. Will you give me one second guys. It's a him, so you just basically. Today just gave away the first clue it him. So that helps. The other thing is that. How old were you when you remember your your first birthday? Like do you? I remember my fourth birthday. You remember anything that young. I don't think I remember stuff that happened, but not necessarily a birthday that happened. Yet, so the reason I remember is my brother came home. I'm four years older than my brother and people were coming over and giving me birthday presents, and they didn't want to leave him out, so they gave him presence and I thought. Why does he get presents just for showing up? It's like. It's my birthday and he was born. He was born in December. We're in the middle of July right. So why is he getting fly? He getting gifts exactly exactly so I'm not much older. Is your brother than you? I am older than him. I was born in sixty three. He was born in the end of sixty six. Got sixty-three. Yes i. who was present when you were born Lbj? Sixty five yeah Lyndon B Johnson so I'm in the small window of Kennedy. BABIES HAVE JFK was president when I was born, and then was assassinated in November later that year. Yeah, just say guys know an update on Mr. yes just called my phone and is going to be calling the hotline any second now. Thank you for that update? Yes, thank you for that update and keeping you up to date. So what point did you nut? Stop giving a crap about getting older? Mesa. For me, it was thirty five. Thirty five and it didn't matter that you're getting older anymore, didn't matter. Didn't anybody remembered? My birthday didn't care if. If you know that I was getting older I. Just said every year pass thirty five. It's good to be alive. Yeah, I think well first of all I. Want everybody to know when my birthday is. It's marched the twenty third. Just in case you listeners are wondering. It's it's, coming up fast. As far as When did I think I don't think I've ever been especially afraid of getting older I. Don't think it ever especially bothered me. I would think it's and my family. It's a little nor I mean it's kind of normal. You know my my mom is seventy eight. I've got a brother one year younger than me I've got a brother five years. Younger guys have Mr Guests on the phone. Okay, we have Mr. Okay good great, so I get eight. Yes, or no question. Yes, okay mystery guests! Have you and I ever worked together? We ever been paid by the same company at the same time. And Lot. No, no that it's not true, okay. I am the salaries fairly? No we have never worked together, okay? I don't need to work with the. When Are they after? Yes, or no questions? Yep Did we meet? Once, I got to Los Angeles like post. Nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety five. Did we meet after then or after that? It would be it I don't remember. Okay. If John Stick to the script, That is. No we did not. We met before that. Do you and I share the same occupation. Are you a broadcaster? No. I liked guy okay. Are you rea-? Real Job Okay, you got a real job. Are you friends with Mason? Do you consider Mason of friend? Not at all. Hell no to. So that's four and I'm not any closer to getting this. No, you're close. Are you famous, do you? Would you be recognized walking down the street? Maybe maybe okay. Are, you in sports. Mad. I have no idea who this is. Are you an actor. Everybody's acting all the time. I only got one left all right last one. Have you ever been on the show before now? Man You got nowhere. Do we want to give the other two? Because originally Mason asked me. Why are you giving him? Eight and I said I think ten. I don't think it'll give me any closer well. No. Winter League that he's not in sports, Lindsey to you have a yes or no question that might help me. Yes we'll go off of the premise that he's an actor. Are you. A. Let's see. Are you most known for you? I WANNA see like. Got a question. For you, guys each get one good. Go ahead, good. Let's you got one. You go first, okay. Mine's mine's actually very specific. Did you. Play Josh Lyman on the West Wing. No way how you guys got Brad Whitford to come on the show. Yes, how did you pull this off? We'll let him explain not that hard. It's not that hard. The Brad this is going to not only. Does this make my day? This is going to make my wife's Day. Who would leave me for you in a heartbeat? Happy Birthday. Thank you the the acting president of the United States Happy Griffin, thank, thank you for that. Are you aware that I'm friends with shift? Oh God. No really, but he speaks very highly of you. He says that. He used to live with your brother. Something like he's known you forever, according to him. Brother. All was my roommate in college. Wow, small, world hey. You. You are now my joke that Richard. Richard can be kind of dark. You Know Jesse can. might joke that is. He's doing a one man show, but the only problem is. He hates the cat. Richard is like a brother to me. Literally a brother to me. Yeah, yeah, he the one of the the reason I became friends with him, as we golf together and Brad I don't know if you golf, but if you've ever golf with Richard, it's not a bad idea to wear a hard hat if know what I mean. Because when he hits a bad shot, you'll see a pterodactyl eight iron like flying across the fairleigh. Actor. He's passionate. He's he Back in the day, we played a lot of softball together in New York and he was a great athlete actually. he's a good Golfer. He's better than me, but one of the one of the great days for me was he called me over in back when before cove? He called me over in the restaurant. You said Hey John. And he goes. And Sheen and he and invited Martin out to play Golf, and for me for me, getting to talk to any you guys and Mason in Linzie thank you because they know this brad to me. The West Wing is the best show ever made and nothing in my world is close nothing. I listened to all of Molina's PODCASTS. On several. That's how down the rabbit hole I am. God and your character was as good as any character on the show, and and and the fact that you would agree to do this. Dumb dog and pony. Radio show is incredibly cool to me so so I. I appreciate it. I heard. You're a wingnut, so yeah, well matter of fact Mason knows my favorite day of the show ever was when we somehow got Aaron. Sorkin to come in, he had he had written the social network at that point, and and he came in for an hour and I think I freaked him out. Because I I asked him like so many questions about all you guy he. He couldn't have been nicer like He. He couldn't have been better matter-of-fact Brad. This is how into into Aaron I am I. Don't understand why studio sixty which you also start in only got one season I was like that because I thought that the thing that makes the west wing great is the casting is that they just nailed all you guys and I thought I thought they had lightening strike twice with Studio Sixty with you and Matthew Perry Amanda. Pete and thought Sarah Sarah. Paulson was awesome. Were you surprised that? Were you surprised that only got one year or did you know it was coming? You Know I. Think we were all We were all surprised because there was such a big buildup right and that show was kind of a victim of coming at the wrong time. economically you know now that show would be like a streaming show. right right, and it wouldn't have the ratings pressure now. That show would be a huge hit back then it wasn't. Quite big enough, and it was very. You know expensive show with a big cast and everything. but yeah, it was disappointing. I loved if it makes any difference, I I've gone back and watched it once every five years since it came out, and I watch west wing like it's my Netflix Goto, whenever I'm doing anything else and Brad I know I'm not the only one there's a whole gym. I don't know if this still happens to you, but there's a whole generation of people watching the West Wing, especially with our current political situation that you guys. Are there something going on politically? There's something going on I. Follow you on twitter. I know right where your head that, but. The the I just find that that happens to you to people still what stop you and say and ask you about the West Wing? Yeah, it's very sweet and when we made the. There was no chance that. The show would possibly. be broadcast more than twice. There would be a rerun, and at that time one hours didn't go into syndication, and you'd have to go to the Museum of broadcasting to see it so very bizarre that we have like a whole generation of people who've like memorized. Episodes very very strange the funniest story. This kid kind of exhausted looking. Obviously a capitol, Hill staffer comes up to me when I was in DC awhile back. And he and he said what people often say, which is really sweet, he said. Hey Man I just want you to know that. You're the reason I went into politics. And that's all that's. That's really sweet. I appreciate that and he said actually. I'm exhausted. I'm broke and I'm never gonNA Kiss mary-louise Parker. AM I. Not Josh Lyman had from Moyer Kelly mary-louise. Parker to you. Know all the you had a pretty good. Run a getting getting to be a bachelor on that. Show the fact that you get to kiss as many girls rob lowe is probably one of the great upsets of all time. You'd even admit that. Nobody that coming. Man Rick Bradley Whitford Actors with Mason. Ireland seventeen ESPN I want to ask you about Sometimes you get involved in a phenomenon in it happened for you. West Wing obviously was one. You ended up in the movie. Get Out! Did you know that that was going to be as big as it was when you were doing it? man, the short answer is no I remember i. Read, it came out of my office and I said to my wife. Oh my God. This is an amazing script. I mean and kind of. What I call a forehead knocker where you're reading a script and you're like I can't believe nobody's. Done this nobody's pressed race through the horror genre. So I was excited about it I was the biggest Jordan Peele and still am I just. As a performer as a comedian I think he's brilliant. and I wanted it you know the everybody adored him just wanted. To work out, but this was a four and a half million dollar budget which is. Nothing it's like you know a Christmas episode of West. Wing I mean the very low budget I think we shot for twenty two days. So the most we were hoping for was that it would make you know like I. Don't know become an already film and make like you know thirty million dollars, and then he invited me up the Sundance where it premiered at midnight. And he called me into loop and said before that and I said has the movie and he's like I think it's pretty good. I think it's really good. You know you have to think that you have to drink the KOOL aid. You've spent two years. You know working I. Miss and he's like no I think it's pretty good. And then when I saw it sundance I have never seen the SU- clay rise like that I was. Blown away by what he did, and then it just went nuts. Yeah, it was a shock. Hey, Brad I can't take for doing this man. You absolutely made my day and as you can tell, I'm a superfan and please please work with Aaron Sorkin again. I, know you want that to happen, but talk them into it, will you? I, will you know my wife just wanted to. We re watched a few good men haven't seen in a long time, and that's where I met Aaron. Him because I played initially the Kevin Bacon part, and then he promoted me. to play the Tom Cruise part and it was I hadn't seen the movie since then because I didn't WanNa, see it because I was upset. Because you've movie, Stars came in, you know took right took my, but it was so bizarre to be watching these things, and and like in the scenes between them I still like no. So some of the lights, going back and forth, but I would love to work with him again. He says I, I love him to death. I well have a great day man and thank you very much rallies. Okay kiss the way John. Thank you sir. Bradley Whitford. You guys. That was awesome. That's Lindsey you don't know. That is like my favorite show ever created times ten. Well I know how much you love it, but shoutout goes to mark Kates Yup. WHO's? Malicious with them. Yup Mark knows mark knows of my obsession, so it's for coming up with that Yeah Yeah Melissa cates for her help, yeah. Yeah, they're great, but By the way if you're out there listening if you've never seen the west wing particularly, if you're jaded right now, because of what's going on, who would be jaded? What's there to be jaded about John? We'll make you always accuse me being to Pollyanna. That's why. Because I worship at the temple of Aaron. Sorkin Yup. That was. It's a great show. It's a great show. John I got a question for you so. I think we all agree that the best duo. That will be playing in Orlando is Lebron and a D. Yes. What's the best trio. That okay. And tell me when we come back Mason in Ireland seven ten espn. We are gearing up for The restart of everything galaxy will be playing L. AFC on Saturday. We got that game for you here on seven ten ESPN. Lakers were counting down just fifteen days away from Lakers. Clippers dodgers a week from tomorrow opening day at dodger stadium versus the giants Johnny Cueto Versus Clayton Kershaw. It's all coming people. It's all coming. So John, we often talk about the the the best duo in the League as being Anthony Davis and Lebron James. Right. Let's see this is a guy named. it's from bleacher report. A guy named Dan. Val wrote this K-. He wrote about the Best Trios in the league, the Best Trios. Point of contention here Yup and there's plenty of room for it, okay? Does it. Is it like? Right now like for example can I take steph curry and Draymond, or because they were all hurt this year? Are they out? You want the. Only teams that are going to be playing in Orlando Okay of the teams in the bubble Yep I still think I would take the Lakers because Lebron ad or so good, and then just add one i. who who would your third their third was? WHO's probably I'd probably had coups MMA. Their third was Danny Green. Danny Green's fine, but that but so I don't violate the spirit of your question. If. We were going to play a game of three and three Yup. I think. I would lean. Towards Jason Tatum Kemba Walker and Jalen Brown. But. I again Lebron a are so good. That like you could take. If you want if you wanted like if you're trying to find three equaled. Like across the board I would do those Boston. Guys they've got. This guy's got Boston five with Jaylen Brown tatum and Kemba Walker so. I'm trying to figure out who would be number one so the problem is each one has a throw in right right. So what do you into? The Lakers are right there. Yeah, throw in Danny. Green, throwing cal Kouzmin. They've got the Lakers at number two. Let me. Take three guesses at who number one could be. Is it Houston. Westbrook and throw in. Houston is number four K. include PJ, Tucker okay hardened P. Thicker and the clippers with. PG and maybe Lou Williams. It is the clippers, and by the way, and I say that should be the trio. Paul George Kawhi Leonard Lou Williams. They've got mantras. Herald there Paul George Kawhi Leonard Mantras Herrell as the best trio playing in Orlando I would include Lou Lou Williams. To and I would put the Lakers ahead of him anyway, because Anthony Davis is so much better than any other big man. You could come up with. They've gotten a walkie. At three Jaanus Eric Bledsoe and Chris Middleton Daryl good. Houston is at four Harping PJ. Talk Arrest Horton in there at all. Column and maybe mellow. Let's see Raptors Kalari Pascall Com Fred Vanfleet Nancy their number six. That's a good three. Joel embiid Tobias. Harris Ben Simmons now on paper. That of that team looks great, except they can't win on the road. They've got New Orleans at number. Eight Drew Holiday Brandon Ingram Zion. That is a good young team. Yeah, and then you didn't even mention Lonzo. Yeah, he yeah, he wasn't included there, but yeah, they've also got Lonzo Yeah, Portland's well down the list well down the list, but yeah, the problem with that is. You know it's who in WHO's eyes. Do you choose the trio like I would say Lou Williams over mantras Herald I would say Kuzma. I would use instead of Danny Green. And, it's very close between those two I. Think it when you add that third component, it's very close. Lou Williamson's just instant offense. He can just flat out score in a huge hurry. All right, coming up next for you. We've radio tinder coming up next shared. By the way from earlier in the show of of Philip, one of our listeners thank you, Philip. points out that you were right. Sea Bass is a saltwater species, and technically not a bass, but prize for eating freshwater bass is a true bass price for sport fishing, but not eating. Is what you were talking about. Yeah, we never ate white bass when we call or black bass, either one. When we caught them. Those were always throwbacks all right coming up next radio tinder mason and Ireland Seventeen Espn. I tied for Radio Tinder Lindsey taken away. All right guys, so we're GONNA start with our good buddy shack. Who Hid shot? Did it a good thing for family that needed help yesterday after witnessing car stranded on the side of Interstate, seventy five down near Gainesville Florida, the NBA. Legend pulled over Major. The family was okay. Any stayed with them until sheriff's arrived, the local sheriff shared the Dash Cam footage where they think. Check for his assistance before he went on his way. Have you guys ever pulled over to help? A stranded motorists before swipe left or swipe bright. Swipe right I have and. I'll do it a lot particularly if I see somebody older, or if I see somebody female, and they look like they're having trouble like changing a tire. Something like that or you know, I'll just offer to help them. Mace I will I will jump your answer. You answer it, but Mason will not only pull over for stranded motorists. Stranded pets, will you not yes, I will yeah. People Right? If see a dog running down the street and it doesn't have a leash on. I. Am all over that dog trying to get it to come back because I've been on the other side of that where your dog runs away and you can't find your dog. I'll do whatever it takes to get that tag into call that number and to put that. Owner of the dog at ease, but there was a famous one where there was I. we're meeting at Jerry's famous Deli I think when it was in West Hollywood. Yes, still is I. think isn't and Yeah I. Think so and I was driving to the breakfast, and I saw golden retriever. Get get hit on Olympic Boulevard and I pulled across traffic, just straight perpendicular. Getting to that dog. And managed to get the dog to the side of the road called the owner owner came and got it. Sent me a thank you card afterwards. Because the dog was okay in the end, but when I showed up at breakfast I had blood on me from from smoking that dog. But Yeah I'm I'm I'm a sucker for a loose dog and I will always pull over to help a motorist. Anything for the dogs. Not. Meaning times when she does when she does her stuff on ESPN has assigned behind her. That says dogs welcome people tolerated. Kind of sums up your position one hundred percent. All right guys speaking of tolerating people president trump's came out with a new book. One of the most eye-popping allegations detailed in Mary Trump's new book. Is that her uncle Donald worried that he couldn't pass it. Himself handsomely paid smart kid to take his sat's to help them transfer from the University of Pennsylvania. Have you guys ever cheated on a test of importance of any magnitude? Before Swipe left or swipe right swipe right because this is we're talking about. About Mason and I have a different position on cheating in school different all right so Lindsey I did not cheat, but I used to sit next to a basketball player in a sociology class at UCLA, and he said hey man. What you get for number five so I just took my arm off my paper and let them copy number five, and then later he goes. Let me see number eleven. I gave him number eleven and Mason said this was. Cheating, I'd like to think that I kept that guy eligible and gave us a fighting chance against some of the other powerhouses in the world right? You could have helped to keep him on the team. At the same time. You were still cheating. Cheating if you know you're. Hitting the no wait a minute I wasn't cheating. He was cheating. See I would argue that you were because you were part of the scheme the cheating scheme. Just as guilty okay, so Lindsey settle that argument I deduct go in there to cheat. I had no plan to cheat. He contacted me said. What'd you get for number nine I? Let him see what you get for number eleven i. let him see. It did I cheat last one hundred percent. There's no I do. I mean you were come come. What's the word complicit? Yes, you were complicit in the cheating, so yes, you, you cheated. Under under your definition, then yes, I've cheated, but that was exactly how. I would do it when I never I never cheated off someone else, but many times I allowed people to cheat off me so using your definition. Yes, many times you let people cheat off of you anybody you asked. Wow I never offered. Sort of. Ethics. It was getting everyone through the class, so they didn't have to take. It twice Jeez. Wow, wow, all right. Yeah, I know I. I'm Swiping left on I didn't Cheat I. Never let anybody okay. How about this you guys? Was this Cheating Mace? You're in a fraternity right? Yes, okay. We had at the fraternity a test file. Yes, and we encouraged everybody when you took a test. If. You didn't get asked to return it if the teacher didn't say, turn the test back in if you are allowed to take the test with you. Are Deal was we would take it with us, and we put it in the test file, so if somebody had to take the class the following year, they would have a good idea of what the test questions would be. And sometimes the the professors wouldn't even change them, so they would have the actual questions. Lindsey is that cheating I mean it's kind of cheating but I. don't have a problem with it because teachers are that lazy to not change their questions each year. They kind of deserve it because anybody could do that. It may sound cheating. Yeah. I mean it's it is cheating. It's institutional cheating, too. It's like the whole fraternity is in on the thing. But, because you're only getting tests as opposed to answers, correct, I think it's less egregious than what you were doing. Why was he would still have to study the test and those answers correct? But, I knew the answers to all the tests I. just letting other people see what I wrote Yeah Yeah, you're a cheater. All, right next one. TYRA banks is twirling into the ballroom to host the. Rolling into the ball rolling on, and she's not going to dance herself, but she's going to host the upcoming season of ABC's dancing with the stars, according to variety banks to new GIG comes. Comes after news broke on Monday, that longtime host Tom Bergeron and Erin Andrews would be departing the show past notable ESPN alum from dancing with the stars include our own keyshawn, Johnson from ESPN, La and ESPN's Kenny Mayne wanted to know if you guys would ever agree to appear on dancing with the stars. Swipe left or swipe. I swipe right I would love to try that and it's not. It's not just the I wanNA be famous thing. It's I really would love to see what I was capable of I'm always amazed. My mom tells me. Keeps me up to date on dancing with the stars. WHO's doing well? WHO's doing? WHO improves the most? She? She loves to talk about that stuff I. Think I would I first of all. Nobody gives me enough. Credit I am an excellent answer. and. That's the one thing that surprises. People about Steve Mason is. He's an excellent dancer. so I really would have a head. Start on everybody and I would love to see how much I could improve. I would love to be on dancing with the stars all right, so here's all answer your question Lindsay. I've got I know Rick Fox a little bit. And Rick Fox made it to the final four on dancing with the stars and what he told me he is makes you can do it, but what he told me is. You have to commit to it. Yes, you have to practice three to four hours a day. When Kishan announced, he was going on that I told him right out of the gate. I said you're going to be the first one out. And I said the reason is not because you're not competitive, you are, but you don't have time to put in three to four hours a day. You're on Monday night countdown. You're Flying York every week. You own twenty different Panetta's. Key is just. Talking about key out first week. And, having said all that. I. Think that if keyshawn and Mason had a dance off. I would bet on keyshawn what? Because I don't think that you would put in the work that the difference I would put in the work, but Kishan has been a rhythm in you. Just totally nailed it by the way. That's a stereotype, exactly keyshawn better rhythm. Excellent rhythm. Let's let's take a plane. I guarantee you. I would not be the first one off dancing with the stars I would work at it. I fly myself I would learn. I would listen to my dance partner dance off between Mason Keyshawn, who wins? I'm nasty. Oh keyshawn, that's it again. This stereotypical rhythm thing. Yes, yee's black. He has rhythm. You don't. You lose. I've got excellent rhythm. To be on the Internet, so the whole world can see it. You need to get more famous in order to get the invite. Yeah, I'm not quite there. I'm not quite. There need a little more fan. Okay? A girl I went to college with us to live with my college. Girlfriend is the casting director for dancing with the stars. Oh come on, hook us up man in there. I would love to do. He's the one that got Rick Fox I would love to do it love to do it. I got another one. Well I wasn't going to say this today, but we are due for a break. We'll take. We'll take a break saving until tomorrow, okay? You're always such a slave to the clock slave. We'll talk. I think we should go commercial free for the rest of the week I'm I'm all for that now that you would never agree to that? Are you kidding me? It's business of commerce. You know what I. Say more show well the brakes aren't that long long is this break? About a minute. 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I just didn't care about the sports stories not that they weren't important in the context of what we usually do as you said but tony the the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis and the subsequent reactions you know some of those reactions have been eloquent. We've heard from people across the sporting community from Lebron James and Steph curry to Carson Wentz and. Jj Watt and people have have have said in the way they usually say it now which is social media. I can't believe this and we're still watching television. Most of us I certainly am. I watched today as a colleague. Magilla llamas northwestern Omar Jimenez was led away in handcuffs a senior journalists stationed. Where apparently he was supposed to be to wear handcuffs. And I can't help but think in the context of all of this Tony. Where's it being led to to a noose? What's happening because I'm watching television? And it feels like I'm seven or eight years old and we're in the mid sixties and I'm preparing to watch bloody Sunday in the nineteen sixties the march to Selma on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Why are we in the Jim Crow South? Have we returned to that point? And is there a lack of leadership in this country to the extent that we're in this place at this moment? Tony is frightening. I mean drove here. I'm in Arizona. I'm in Scottsdale Arizona. I'm probably a couple of fifteen hundred miles away from Minneapolis. I see a police car and flinch because I don't know what could happen in anybody. Says they know what could happen? Oh you're exaggerating you. You don't know anything because this guy ended up with his head against the concrete saying I can't breathe and then died was murdered and so that Tony like it has with those other gentlemen. I mentioned earlier in the sports world. So many of us as you've said it's a cloud that hangs over us right now. Yeah it's I mean it's sad and it's tragic and it's unnecessary. I am old enough to have watched fifty and sixty years ago scenes like this reaction like this and you think your past it. You don't know your past that you think your past it. You hope you're pass that what you hope. The country stands for more than anything else is justice for all and not just justice for some and what you also hope is that the compassion is larger than the outrage. But I I don't my guy I'm I don't have anything. Brilliant to say about this. It makes me sad and I certainly understand how it takes away from any discussion of sports. At the moment I do. Yeah it does so. He will get back to that because it's been topical and has been something that you know. The covert nineteen is not the only virus that is ripping apart this country. Right now. Is we see this other sickness that we didn't think we have to deal with and then we go back. We deal with things at hand in our lives and we as I say we turn on and we watch in a frightened way it's frightening what's next water hoses and dogs being turned on people. What's next and then we go back. And we try to figure out what what in our lives is a little more normal and so sadly normal now is still been trying to figure out when we're GonNa get sports and what that's going to be even from some of the people who have reacted again so eloquently to what we've seen and there's no easy transition Tony so I'll just try to jump into baseball and a story that is ongoing with baseball right now. Certainly not a happy. When Jeff Passan reports that hundreds of Minor League baseball players cut Thursday minor league players and hundreds more expected to lose their jobs in the near future as the sport deals with the fallout of the Corona Pandemic. This comes amid appeared of widespread uncertainty about the future of a number of minor league franchises. Tony Minor League Baseball. What's your feeling about what's happening to right now. Yeah this this makes me sad where I went to school in Binghamton. We had a minor league team when I was in school the Binghamton triplets. They still have a team. They're the rumble ponies. I mean I just think that the Romance of Sports in America has a lot to do would small towns and Minor League Baseball. And I've Seen Bull Durham thousand times and it always sort of reinforces that for me. If teams there have been some teams that have stepped up. Major League teams that have stepped up and they've guaranteed the salaries for the minor league players for this month or next month. Or maybe even through August when the season would probably end some of them are actually the poor teams like the Marlins padres and the mariners. The twins the royals which is odd to me. It doesn't cost that much. I it looks not my money. It's not your money you know but you could support all your minor league players for between one and two million dollars a year so you could do that. The larger issue here is that baseball's moving away from its minor league teams and cutting down on its draft. And and you know you have a situation like this. We all feel bad from minor. Leaguers losing their jobs but tens of millions if not one hundred million Americans are faced with unemployment right now because of this pandemic Dantonio amazing though that professional baseball players given the minor league structure that has existed for these decades would be facing unemployment themselves. You know we don't necessarily in that context and while I grew up with major league teams I worked in. Have you know the beginning of my sports career involved goings at some minor league gangs? Tony last year. I think the attendance was something more than forty million people. This is not incidental. Everybody doesn't grow up with the Yanks the Saux the cubs and dodgers and so people grow up with this part. It's it's so much a part of America in certain communities a lot of communities more communities than have professional league baseball so sad dear indeed see this is not baseball is dependent on a minor league a Feeder System College football supplies the NFL college basketball supplies the NBA hockey has juniors. But it's not as extensive as baseball where you can have an entire career in the minor leagues in Baseball. I mean for me. This is this is the fabric of baseball and and if it's going to be torn apart. Yeah that that makes me sad. I hope it doesn't happen but baseball seems to be moving that way. By the way GIEGOLD's David Price David price taking money out of his own pocket You know to support my leaguers through jewelry imprison the dodgers organization an organization. He's never been pitched for. He never pitched for him. He just got there very impressive David Price. I wonder if other guys will step up. Let's move to something that I think is going to be a lot more fun and certainly will be for me. It's your boy. Jim Harbaugh at the University of Michigan. He's been the coach at Michigan now for five years and we both agreed great for college football. He was asked by the website. Twenty four seven. How Close Michigan has come to winning the national championship in his tenure and Harbaugh said and this is a direct quote about as close as you can possibly be unquote. Why is that how you see it? No of course not of course not I mean. I don't know whether I should use the word revisionist when it comes to a Jim Harbaugh said or just delusional and Tony. There was one shot at this. I think it was two thousand sixteen when he had the the bad fourth-down call. I thought it was a bad call against Ohio. State and Ohio state wanted to make the playoffs. And maybe you know Michigan could have been in. Their place may be so. I'll give him that one. Two thousand sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen. We know they're not really happy in Michigan as they perhaps embark upon another season. Wouldn't even know if Jim Harbaugh is team on and get that chance this year but Tony No what is he talking about? What did he think I don't know he was doing? All those teams between him and the top weren't really there so let's go to the quote again about as close as you can possibly be. Let me tell you came as close about as close as you can possibly be. That would be Georgia. That went to overtime in the final game and lost two to one that would be Alabama which almost one game lost in the last second to Clemson. Here's Harbaugh what are you talking about? You haven't gotten to the playoffs. I mean you mentioned that game against Ohio. State Ohio state went out and got beat in the national semifinal. Clemson thirty one. Nothing so how Michigan let's review Harbaugh for a second. He has never won the big ten. He has never had fewer than three losses in a season. He never did one tenth in the final police. Never Be Ohio. Stay there you have. It never state. You can't even we so what it'd be best to your conference. I I just delusional. I've his definition of close. Like maybe he thinks. The State of Michigan is close to the state of Maryland. Considering the same conference but they're not close. Yeah hundreds of miles away. So they're not close it. I I want to hear some more reaction coming out of Wolverine Land on that one on a recent episode. Tony here we go back to familiar area of all the smoke podcast former wizard wizard in piston rip. Hamilton says Michael Jordan while President of the wizards in two thousand and one that was year before he played those two seasons traded away laurent profit because profited talk trash to MJ and a pickup game profit reportedly said to Michael quote. You can't guard me with those old asked. Knees close quote and rip says Jordan told him an exit interview. The prophet would be sent packing and then he was traded for Brendan Haywood town. Salad Jordan. You first of all. Let's go back over that quote. You can't guard me with your oil asked knees okay. That is a great quote. This happened by the way in a pickup game. When Jordan was not an active player he was the team president in a pickup game. Okay does it sound like Jordan? Ah Me all I don't know petty and fuelled by rage. Yes of course it sounds like Jordan to me not only that but when Jordan came back he traded away Hamilton. Who's the source of the story and everybody in Washington? Except maybe you and I will grant except maybe you. What did he did that because he thought Hamilton was gonNA take shots away from him and he brought in Jerry. Stackhouse wouldn't take as many shots. So yes it sounds like my Michael Jordan and to me it adds to the loss through Michael Jordan that he would actually do this all right. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa get into some facts here by the way. I covered. Laurent profit at Maryland. Like Laurent profit. A Lot. I know this is not a kid anymore. I knew him as a kid. Tony would you not have traded? Lebron profit for Brinton Haywood who was a starting center in the NBA for the bulletin wizards and beyond was not a good trade. Let me let me just say this. Haywood played thirteen seasons in the league. Laurent profit played four. So yes that that. That doesn't change the motivation. Wait a minute that was a good. Well we're taking shots away mean. Let's get serious. The other thing is rip Hamilton. And you follow me here because you know I wrote this at the time in the Washington Post Tonight. I knew this in real time. Okay so I don't care what others new rip Hamilton. Going to going away from the Wizards Jerry. Stackhouse coming back which was supposed to be a very very very very very short term solution. So that Michael Jordan could acquire whom Kobe Bryant you. I know you knew this because you knew it from me in real time covering what was going on in Washington. So would you not if you thought you were going to attempt to make room to get Kobe? Bryant who remember was unhappy in L. A. Was shocked all that said he was going to go to Chicago to replace. Who Michael Jordan Wizards? Yes would you not have tried that by opening up? Cap Room by moving. Rip Hamilton if you needed to yes and the follow up question is did they get Kobe Bryant. Then get him obvious you would you would you? Would you go back and say don't try that? Don't try don't don't don't move rip. You've gotta try it but the larger issue here is the mythology of Michael Jordan and this fits right in to the mythology of Michael Jordan. You said that to me boom. Get Out of here. How can I send you how far I know how much you love vengeance? You know maybe this show. Beatasikh pays cold. You're steal it from from James Brown. The big payback. Hello is your apartment. I need some favors from you. You're rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters in car insurance with Geico we could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing could you the TV on during the day? I need to catch up on my soaps for bundling go to GEICO DOT COM today. The props glasses legal pad. We go to the happy happy. Twenty Second Birthday Marquel Foltz. Volt was a sinkhole as the overall number one. Pick by the seventy sixers. Three seasons ago but is now salvaging his career in Orlando Pulse. Appear to have completely forgotten how to shoot in Philadelphia is suction was. He had the Yips and became a basket case. In two seasons their full started. Average is seven point seven points and three point four assists shot forty one percent from the field twenty six point seven from three and only fifty three percent from the line. These terrible numbers. The after being traded out of super-critical Philadelphia to super welcoming Orlando full made a significant improvement in mid range. Shooting was more comfortable driving to the basket. Indicia the ball off the team teammates. He started fifty. Nine of sixty. Four Games improved his scoring average to twelve point. One is assist of five point. Two is overwrought. Shooting percentage rose to forty seven point three and his free throw shooting rose to seventy two point three. Now he's not great but he's no longer a bust. Who'd Elfi gets credit for? Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid but Fulton Nerlens Noel and Julia Jalil for Mike. They all bomb there. Well Tony. I'm going to concentrate on the positive of this kid. I mean first of all. He played basketball in place. You and I have lived for a long time and I moved for him. It must taken a whole lot of work work and commitment on the part of full. Get listen all a lot of people in the NBA. Don't shoot forty seven percent and a whole lot. Don't shoot seventy two percent from the line so good for him. I mean looks like Tony. The trajectory of his career has changed. I have nothing but applause from phones. Yeah we joined in that we join in that because he's local for us from DC. Happy Anniversary Lenny randle. Whoa IT'S LENNY. Randle we come. Pti I know the other day. I said the highlight of Randall's career king. Thirty nine years ago when he was playing for the Marlins mariners rather and he blew a ball foul across third base line. But this action is tremendous on this day forty six years ago while playing for the Texas Rangers. Randall took revenge on Indian speech. Wilcox who had just thrown behind him. Randall then definitely laid down a bunt on the first base side knowing that Wilcox would come over to field. It as Wilcox did just that. Randall plowed old room. Sparking a bench clearing brawl props to Randall for creative and well executed Ralph Strategy. And they'll randall. Claimed he didn't actually attempt to blow that ball foul which of course he did. At least he didn't say that he didn't deliberately smashing into Wilcox. And that is simply got tangled up causing him all all into the picture. That was genius. Dopes who say you know? Baseball's a coming in a way. The players can't direct with. They're gonNA shut up. He put the ball. I know he'd like to put it four feet closer to the line but it was great. Tony the way that's that is old school hard nosed baseball. That is win. See anything like that anymore. I can do it. Maybe without the brawl but what the. It's old school because it happened forty six years ago. That's why it's old school happy trails. Jt Daniels the former national high school player years leaving USC. For George then you started twelve games at quarterback for the TROJANS over two seasons losses job to kion slava's after suffering a torn ACL. And last season's opening was underwhelming at USC. Going five and seven throwing fifteen touchdowns and eleven interceptions at Georgia. Daniels will either sit out this season or likely backed up Grad transfer. Jamie Newman. Who CAME OVER FROM? Wake forest in college now. Quarterbacks transfer all the time. It's like a Carousel ride when Georgia stuck with Jake from Justin feels left to Ohio state. That Daniels has three years of eligibility left but the collateral damage is his to. Daniels was so psyched to play for USC the huge Tattoo with the La Coliseum and the Trojan helmet on his right calf now. Who probably have to cover that up with the famous hedges of Sanford Stadium. The good news for Daniels. The governor of Georgia recently allowed Tattoo Parlors. Open all over the state. Yeah can they. How about Tattoo Removal Tony? The only person not in the transfer portal and apparently headed to Georgia. Is Tom. Brady 'cause everybody else plays? A position seems to be in the transfer battle and seems to WanNa play between the hedges.

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Hour 2: Simon Gibbs and Mike Griffith

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: Simon Gibbs and Mike Griffith

"Dead more time to listen to yours truly by going to shell and getting things done at once. I fill up with shell. V power nitro plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally snack up to save even more at the pump. Make the most of the stop you need to make with. Shell pride passion and pageantry of college. Football leaves here. This is the paul finebaum. Show our to podcasts. We welcome you to the second hour. Busy one with nick sabin dominating our number one but if you haven't heard this next story listen up our guests. I'm simon gibbs who had had on before one of the great young sports journalists in the country with the hustler. The student newspaper has broken a whopper of a story about a young lady on the on the championship. Winning soccer team at vanderbilt could end up kicking for the commodore simon. It's great to see you again. Thanks so much. Congratulations on the great work and sharing the story with the world and good afternoon and tell us all about it good afternoon. Thanks for having me paul. So obviously the past few days have been a whirlwind for for all vanderbilt sports. That really started on sunday. Because on sunday as you mentioned the venerable women's soccer team won the sec tournament. So i do want to shout out to them. They had an incredible season because the headed into the season with high expectations. A lot of talent and the ultimately sell short the regular season. They went just four and four and then come. Sec tournament time everything changed. They ran through the tournament. Made quick work of four straight teams aggregate goals of like fourteen two four. Minute ended up winning their first tournament. Title since nineteen ninety. Four couple days later The vanderbilt tennessee game as you know well was moved or postpone door to be determined whether or not they'll actually play and vanderbilt was then scheduled to play missouri in yesterday's press conference. I asked coach. Derek mason about the kicking situation prior to the missouri game and i asked because venerable has struggled with kicking this year Pearson cook is three for seven. I believe on field goals. Vendors has been using a walk on kicker for extra points the past couple of weeks but then last week. The walk on kicker was nowhere to be seen. Cook return to taking the extra points. So i ask coach mason. Why that was the case and he sort of gave a little descriptive answer of the king situation saying he hadn't decided yet and he will decide. Come practice you. Also one point and this is funny in hindsight was was laughing through part of the answer and i don't think it was intentional. I don't think it was necessarily hinting. Tipping or gesturing towards anything but as it turned out after practice. I had multiple people. Reach out to me telling me that. Sarah fuller the starting goalkeeper of vanderbilt's sec championship. Winning soccer team was in full pads at practice. I want to say vanderbilt. Athletics has not confirmed that she's kicking. They've not confirmed that she was at practice. They've hardly confirmed anything. All i know is from multiple people coming to me. Tell me the exact same story that she was. They're going through the motions on the sidelines. She didn't actually kick in practice but was going through the motions and that would make her at least to our knowledge through our research the first woman to if she plays which we don't know she will should be the first woman to log a snap in a power five game. We believe simon. We're here to talk about her. And the commodores not the the matching nations of the vanderbilt athletic situation with within the realm of university. But why wouldn't they confirm something like that. I may a school athletic department in desperate need of any positive publicity related to football. This would be an easy one to figure out wouldn't it. yeah. I mean look called. Obviously don't know what they're kicking situation is going to look like With multiple specialists in quarantine. i heard. That's the reason why. Sarah was brought to practice. And i'm sure the coaches don't necessarily know what they do. I'm sure the coaches are going to put out. their best. Option comes saturday. And if that sarah then sarah is gonna take take a snap and i would love to see it. But as for why. They wouldn't confirm the news. I mean my job. I'm not supposed to behind sports information directors. And i don't i don't go behind the backs of the because this is not information i saw it out. This is not a story. I could possibly come up with an snooped around for information. People came to me telling me this because they couldn't believe it. And when i heard it i couldn't believe it and i'm i'm i mean it's great to hear something like this but this is not a story i could have made up. This is not a story. I could have found my way around the athletic department. But you know. I do understand. They're not confirming it because obviously not only do they not know what the kicking situation might look like a come saturday but if if this ends up happening i obviously the methods through which i got. The information is not necessarily the traditional route. Because you don't have people in and around the program coming to you telling you this type of stuff let me move on to the actual team which shows you how badly this season has gone that. We're now praising them for good efforts you you warned us about this. Before the season simon and your warnings were were prescient. What's the state of this football program. I lost track of how many years derek mason has been there. I think he's been there since two thousand fourteen and this will easily be his. Were here that saying something right and this is a tough season. Don't get me wrong. They're playing in all sec schedule. What's changed from the last time you know. I made that comment about the outlook of their season. What's changed between then and now is actually quite a bit in that ken. Seals is ten times the quarterback. I could have ever expected him to be. He's going to be the face of vanderbilt football for quite some time and he's going to be named to remember in the. Sec conceals is a legitimate quarterback and as a true freshman is making waves in this conference. We see him throwing for three hundred yards plus routinely. He had a week against florida this past week. That was the most impressive game. I've ever seen from a freshman and granted then about lost the game and their offense really slowed down in the second. Half what we saw in the first half particularly the first quarter was him going punch for punch tit for tat with kyle trask for a true freshman at vanderbilt to be on the same level and at one point better than kyle trask. I truly believe that at one point in the beginning of the game she was better than kyle trask. Statistically that's incredible so. I think there's a lot of optimism for this offense at the moment. The defense is certainly struggling. The secondary is very much struggling But i think the offense is really really the bright spot of team right now even if the commodores go ten and we have to remember they. They still have tennessee left. So there's hope. Simon will what will be said about derek. It's tough to tell at this point. I may have people telling me something about who did or didn't attend practice. I definitely don't have people telling me about that coaches future so obviously i can't answer that with certainty but what i can tell you. Is that obviously as you mentioned. This would be the worst season dark mason had since his arrival vanderbilt and with a new athletic director with sort of a new era of about athletics. They're going to. I assume take some take some serious steps to evaluate the coaching situation. There's a new chancellor on campus too. And i know for fact that they're still going to evaluate this as it as it looks. They're going to evaluate it if they go ten an ten season. They're not going to put an asterisk next to it so i do think that if they go ten. There is a very good chance that we make we might see some some coaching changes but worth noting. I don't know if and when they're going to make any decision to make a change but if they do you know with the season ending very late december. Twelve maybe december nineteenth depending on when this tennessee game gets played if it gets played. They're going to have to make a really quick turnaround because national early signing day is in mid december so if they choose to make make a change at the at the coaching level which. I'm not sure they will disappoint there. We're going to have to quickly turn things around. Find a new candidate and round up a recruiting class. So i'm in vanderbilt's coming to take you away. I hear those sirens so you should not have broken the story final question. You weren't sure whether this tennessee game would be scheduled. It seems like we were going to hear from the sec. A couple of days in december nineteenth is going to be used for the the junk pile so to speak highest. I mean what's it going to be like if we have this game between two of the worst teams maybe the two worst teams by then in the sec on the same day as all the championship games are going to be played. What would the interest level be. I mean in both fan bases the interest level be so high and so while at the same time they're going to be of course they're gonna wanna know the outcome and of course one team is going to want the other to falter but at the end of the day. I think this is going to be a meeting of the minds to programs. That are in serious trouble to head coaches that you know. There's a lot of skepticism around their futures with the programs. But i think at this point vanderbilt is going to come out fiercely against tennessee especially after this game got postponed and for weird reasons to i mean. I'm not sure. I fully understood why it had to be moved but i think vanderbilt is gonna come out really hot against tennessee. I could very well see them. Pulling off an upset against tennessee to which i think as you know well tennessee. Fans would lose their minds. You are correct about that. So i mean hey it's always a pleasure to have you on your favorites comeback soon. I know you're running out of time andrew belt at some point. But we love having you here and congratulations again on the story. Thank you so much paul. You bet chiming gibs The award-winning sports editor of the hustler. We'll take a break. Get your reaction to that more to come as we roll on here on a day before thanksgiving. Hey it's your homie. Sorry it's your home. I know you don't like it when i call myself your homemade so i have some favors to ask you. Could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room. My floorboards are tired. Another easy save money. If you bundle your home and car insurance with geico on moore thing. I know you love lavender. Scented candles but could be try to houston vanilla. I think it would fit my better for bundling made easy. Go to geico dot com today. You're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast napa know napa. You can get twenty percents off three or more items with four ninety nine napa toolbag yep twenty percent off power tools twenty percent off wipers twenty percent off oil in more. It's a whole bag of tricks. Will actually it's one trick over and over again but it's a good one saving you. Twenty percent on three or more items quality parts helpful people that's napa know how at participating locations exclusions apply not be combined with other offers offer ends eleven thirty twenty. We welcome you back again. The breaking news on this wednesday. Before thanksgiving nick saban has tested positive. School said in its release. he showing mild symptoms. Sabin said he has not developed any cardinal indicators of covid certainly is some concern as there has to be with anyone sixty nine years old developing covid nineteen a. Brian is up next. Hey brian garage head. Paul how are you. We're doing great. thank you. You know. I want to say thanks for keeping it real. Well thank you for saying that you We've got some pretty excitable people that call in your show and you sure do have a way with words man well. This is very important to to all of us here and we genuinely appreciate people that call in and listen and watch regardless of what they say. Say there's a few chief. Cahoon is out there at college football. You're one of them buddy. I really appreciate it and you just keep on doing what you do. Thank you brian. A your kind words have a great thanksgiving before we get to the next call. Another game has gone down a couple of games early. I think it was. Colorado state and air force was postponed or cancelled and now multiple reports. That oklahoma has paused activity. And we'll have to postpone the game this weekend at west virginia. That was a really interesting game. Oklahoma playing extraordinarily well after. It's a blow out over oklahoma state so another one bites the dust this weekend but to get to the calls and mark is in richmond. You are next up Hey mark hi there how you doing mark. I'm doing really well thank you. That's great first of all. I'm a first time caller And that really a long time listener. I both for years. I think well thank you. But i wanna get my point when you first came when i first saw you on the air and i don't know how long you've been on just glimpse said to myself and Where they get this gentleman i mean. Is this ball headed dude. Round room glasses you know and I said man. Espn must be getting tough. Alabama says you know couple of weeks or so made a pass. And i caught you again and i can't remember what it is but you said something that hit me right in the gut. That was so honest and truth for the and from that point on. I said this man knows what he's talking about. I don't care what it looks like. And that's no fetch everybody's gotta look like some even say even if they look like me they have to. They have to look like something everybody got. It looked like somebody. So and i just wanted to let you know you get one best. It's not the best on show on the air and i sincerely believe I really believe that and two more things. I'm a disabled veteran of the vietnam conflict. Your they won't call it a war. So and i'd like to chat out all the former marines that were in my Companies all over oral wish. Most of them are still with us and Best to you your family and stay safe. And thanks for laying on retro max. This morning as best job. I was saying i call him retro max because going always going but say if if but back in you know but you put more spot this morning and i loved every second up the mark. Thank you bottom line. Is you be safe. Love your show and You you and your family stay you know. Just take care and be good mark. You have a great thanksgiving. Thank you paul. thank you very much. Mark was referring to a i was on. I take today with mexico men and he was. He was attempting to make a point. And we're still waiting for him to make it. Let's continue with more calls here at eight. Five five two four two seven two eight five and willard is in birmingham. Willard art paul going very well. Thank you willard. Hey i've gotta ask you a question. paul I was wondering if you really think that. Nick sabin getting tobin is an accident i. I don't know anyone purposely wants to get covid. So what are you asking me I've got a kind of a theory. Here okay shoot. So you and i both know that every year People going into the iron bowl making predictions who they think is going to win the game and you know. Sometimes it's like once they get out on the field None of that really matters. Records don't matter. We both know that auburn can always pull off the upset. And i think this year to say even was honestly scared to coach against gus. Malzahn your honestly out of your mind. But that's okay. We'll are happy. Thanksgiving is up next in dallas. Hello jared go right ahead. dna there yacking me. Yeah i sure can. Hey so. I'm watching on sec network. But i have a big twelve question for you. I just want to know if you put any stock or legitimacy in texas looking to move on from tom. Herman into urban meyer. A i think it's possible tom. Herman was one of the so-called great hires ever and he's been a colossal disappointment. Failure might be a slightly exaggerated term. But i know one thing he's been there. What five four or five years. What's he done. one red river. That's about it. I mean ultimately and in a sugar bowl. You're right you know great but but then again like to me big twelve and never got to it by default but to me if you could get urban meyer you get you go for him are urban. Meyer is one of the greatest coaches of this generation He Baggage and i don't know of urban. Meyer wants to coach. I have friends who know him pretty well and he really was sick and completely exhausted from his last year and has not shown a lot of signs. But one thing about all coaches. It's hard to move on from coaching even doing television. That sounds glamorous and exciting but a lot of coaches. Espn on on sunday morning and on sets on saturday morning and the one thing they always wanted to do is coach. Their television is just something for them to do between jobs. I appreciate the call and have a happy thanksgiving. Thank you very much. And i don't know why i'm coughing every time you cough nowadays. You've just start freaking out anyway. The phone number's eight five. Five two four two seven two eight five. We are going to talk more with you on the phone. J- also mike griffith will be joining shortly. We'll get the weekly update from him after this. It's your apartment speaking. And i need some favors when you're singing in the shower. Just try going up the key. You're trying to be an alto when really. You're a soprano. Oh and if you could bundle your renters and car insurance with geico. It's easy to do online and we could save money. And then when you read your murder mysteries at night could you read out loud but skip the murder parts because i get scared for bundling geico dot com today listening to the paul finebaum show podcast you at one step once last thing. One running with elite. Qb's td's across nova step behind laughing because you know his with the he's finger. Push bruce lee showing no mercy fat file got the crew on balibo knows no one else goes deeper was loud. Espn download now. We're back here on this wednesday or hope. All of you are having safe. Travels out there for thanksgiving and mike. Griffiths joins us our weekly thursday guests but since we knew mike would be eating all day tomorrow. We decided to grab him today. Mike thank you and it looks like your predictions have come true. That georgia finally found a quarterback. Good afternoon wouldn't really going out on a limb there. Paul i mean. This guy has been a national player of the year since he was a freshman in high school. Max perhaps national player of the year. Sophomore max press preps national player of the year junior national gatorade player of the year then his senior year when he's supposed to be in highschool he's throwing for three forty seven on an undefeated notre dame and over three hundred on a texas team to beat georgia. So i i mean really. It really wasn't that much of a prediction if you look at what. Jt daniels is done. He is who we thought that he would be. T tell us this again. And i know we've covered this territory often. But why couldn't he have played earlier. When maybe georgia's season could have been saved. Yeah that's between jt. And kirby smart and the trainer talking with. Jt's father steve daniels earlier this week. The daniels family is is happy. With the way that kirby smart and george dealt with this. There's a lot of trust there. They believe that you know that kirby wasn't gonna rush their son out there. He's been rehabilitating from knee injury. The thought in fall camp. Paul was that jt for the opener from the acl surgery and the clean up that he had last january but he wasn't cleared for the opener. So kobe kirby moved forward. Withdrawn mathis instead and bennett. And and we're merely rolling along and really didn't feel like i guess. Jt could play until after the florida game. Jd went to his office and said coach. I i can make these stroz. I can make this happen. In stetson was injured. He had the shoulder. He left the florida game with a fourteen. Zero lead the first three and a half minutes when he suffered a sprained shoulder came back in the game with the shot wasn't able to hit the broad side of a barn doin. Mathis are unable to rally georgia despite several opportunities several open receivers in the second half and jt daniels at that point still not cleared so he's been ready. The last two weeks missouri canceled out of that kobe game. We talked about that and then they played against mississippi. State and and jt was near flawless. I mean the guy was ten of ten passing on third down and converted on eight out of ten third downs of eight yards and more. He's very impressive. Talking to mike here Certainly the georgia situation has cleared up a little bit. Let me let me let me wrap up. Georgia was asking you about the rest of the season. I know recruiting continues to go very well so without knowing how the season and but we think it's going pretty. Predictably what do you think that. Take away from this is going to be with south carolina and vanderbilt remaining and then a look ahead with a good recruiting class to what next year mike south carolina's yet guys on each other left and right. I don't know what you're gonna find their columbia this weekend but then he got vanderbilt. I don't know whether the missouri game will get made up or not. I know the leaks talked about december nineteenth the possibility or december twelfth. I suppose i know they juggled the schedule recently again. But to your point poetry about momentum as of now we believe. Jt daniels we back. I posted a story afternoon. The mock drafts are starting to come out. It's really early. Cbs sports at j. Projected is number sixteen overall pick. I don't think the family plans on going pro right now but you know how things can change quickly. I mean it's. Jt finishes the year strong. And he's a projected first round draft. Pick who knows. But i think the plan is for him to stay in. What you've seen. Is these great receivers. George pickens unbelievable. Talent germain burton. Now this is an exciting young freshman. He went for eight for one ninety seven he had. Ob j. like combine numbers. He's not obi j just saying he's a very fast guy with a great vertical in great hands. He's been getting a lot of action. But when you got a guy like jt. One of these california quarterbacks man they'll just let it fly if you're going to give man coverage on the outside he's taken it to the house. I kind of feel like paul that you know. Jt is this bright red lamborghini that's pulled in with california license plates and kirby's kind of sand and looking back at it like trying to compare it to that pickup truck that he had under center. How georgia make this work and this kid. Don't go off road. Like last one with the mobility. I think it's doing georgia favor. Mississippi state did george a big favor by loading up against the run and forcing jt to air it out. Because i think kirby smarts chewing on this he's talked about of all the offense. He's got the offensive coordinator. Do with todd hunkin. This guy is brilliant. His play calling has been great all year. And he's got these great young receivers so having a guy like jt of jt settles in and he's the guy next year georgia's offense is really gonna take off. The defense will be in a reload but at jt's back next year. They're back to being the favorites in the east once again. And and really what. Quarterbacks are back next year could. Jt daniels be the best quarterback in the sec. Next season to like. I heard that for another georgia quarterback just to about ten months ago. Hey let me ask you though. Because i realized trask is gone but you know he could win. The heisman georgia. Florida has a shot at the sec championship and the national championship. I seemed like i asked you this every week but it just seems like maybe. Maybe things are changing a little bit in the yeast. I know they've changed for the championship game. But what's the level of concern that. Maybe georgia did miss window here. I don't know. Did they look like they change in the first quarter against vanderbilt when they shut down. Trask i listen to the trask heisman. Talk it's cute but you get this guy moving in pressured any any folds. He's he's not. He's not joe burrow. The comparisons are driving me nuts. I'm like lists joe burrow. Paul was johnny manziel with a brain. Okay joe burrow was a playmaker. Joe burrow was a legacy player contrast he can stand there and hit one hundred papa shots in a row if you if he doesn't move his feet but you get this guy moving he gets. He's not the heisman winner. he's not job. I don't see that. I didn't see him score a touchdown on george in the entire second half against a georgia defense that gave up. What one hundred fifty yards on the wheel route in the first half. I just don't see it. I think alabama quarterback is better. And i think alabama's more balanced. I think laura is has got a very good offense and cow pits. I think makes florida very very good. He'll be back this week but traffic. Isn't that guy. He's not a guy this going to be on your fantasy football roster anytime in the future when he gets to the nfl. And do you feel similarly about about florida which will play alabama for the sec. Championship and a berth in the playoffs. Yeah i mean. I think when you look at alabama paul you look at a team that can run the by and i don't think nausea harassed by the way getting nearly enough talk in the heisman. Conversation ozzy nauseous. What makes alabama special. He's what brings that run threat. You've gotta play alabama honest or this kid will kill you. He'll run over you. he'll run around. You heal fake you out. He is dynamic. he's explosive. he is headed for stardom. He's the best running back in the country. Florida doesn't really have that element. They don't have that balance. And so that's why. I say if you get trapped behind the chains just like any quarterback. I mean it's hard when it's thirty eight and third and ten florida's inability to run the ball consistently is going to be their undoing. I looked it up today. Alabama's got the number one pass efficiency defense in the league. Nobody's real good against the pass in the sec. This year it seems. There's a lot of good quarterback play a lot of good offense but alabama's got some guys that can lock you down back there. its playmakers. Yeah that will probably be a blowout in the sec title game but still. It's progress for florida to get there. It's something to recruit to gives them an opportunity. Maybe they can get a transfer quarterback in there to continue the aerial assault and dan mullins is he continues to try and build some momentum. Get florida back where they were. But they're not in the conversation with the urban meyer or steve. Spurrier teams right. Now there's simply not there yet. I realize three weeks is a lifetime in college football. But i just want to close by asking about comment. You made earlier about kyle. Trask i put him number one. And my weekly heisman pole. Whenever that means everyone has a different But to say that the kyle. Trask heisman talk is cute. I mean what does that mean. Means that i the guy's been inconceiva-. I've seen him shut down like i said i. I saw him score six points in the second. Half of the game against georgia. If georgia had a quarterback that could hit the broad side but they don't florida deserved to win but i saw him struggle against vanderbilt. I mean great. Quarterbacks don't struggle like. I've seen college in the he if he gets in a rhythm. He's deadly right when georgia back on the field thirty. The guy hold on the guys thrown thirty one touchdowns in seven games. How's that struggling. I'm just saying he had moments where he's been consistent. I mean joe burrow was a guy that i felt like moved. Lsu and a very bounced offense but trust stands back there and like i said paul. They've got a good offensive line and when he doesn't move he's deadly accurate but if you get this guy moving he's easily defeated. I've seen it happen. He doesn't throw well off the run. And i've seen him struggle. I mean against georgia last year. They had they didn't even get in the end zone until the fourth quarter. So he's a talented guy. but he's not joe burrow. He's not too okay he's but what he is. He's in a very good offense that system. he's got an indefensible tight. End let me tell you. Kyle pits isn't impossible. Cover the only reason georgia had any shot getting back in that. Game is because the georgia's safety louis seen took pits out of that game if they don't take kyle pits out of that game. Florida probably scores two or three more touchdowns in the second half so you put pits out there. And he's a pretty amazing target right and they do have a good offense and they've got some good targets. All i'm saying is i don't see. Traffic is being in the same category with trevor lawrence. And i'm not even sure. Justin fields danny work will had some pretty good numbers to paul. Danny werfel had some pretty good number but kyle. Trask is is the quarterback at florida. This year. we're not. We're not comparing him Spurrier tibo and saying wall. I'm just saying. I don't i don't see the great and the numbers are there. If you want your numbers. I mean andre. Ware had those houston. Once upon a time. I looked for more than numbers. Okay i look for consistency. And i looked for a guy. That's one champion. If he i'll tell you what if he beats alabama you know that would certainly rocket him up on my heisman last. And we're not really allowed to talk about that. But but i don't see i saw him trailing vanderbilt mike right now hold on and by the way the ask you the heisman. Trust asking out to reveal who you voted for. We're just speculating right now. On on on the horse race and If you had to rank the heisman. And i know we're running later as we always do if you had to run to heisman favorites right now in order. Starting at one gives us your list unlike the college football playoff committee. I'm not gonna. I need to see. More of what is just feels played three or four games. Trevor lawrence says my can't wait right this moment on november twenty fifth. All i asked you for one to fly like nausea right now. I am now right now right now right now based on the body work right now i like. I like nausea harrison mac. I like the alabama players. I've seen them win gains. I think those guys had done more. Cow is hers. You're obviously a few skating here. Where kyle trask rank right now. I mean he's a guy look at my goodness he's got. My weight has for a numbered. I don't wanna speech one to tom. I five up five. Where i really have ranked and paul. I really haven't ranked him. I hear mike i. I'm not asking you for the square root of something. I'm just asking you to go one. Two three four five. Yeah he's like. I said i like najji right now. I put trask probably four. I haven't really ranked him. I need more. We're all fine. We'll see that's all we all. We wanted might. He's number one on my list. And i said so sunday morning at sportscenter and data heisman committee. The heisman trust is going to kick me out but they do find so mike. We wish you a happy thanksgiving. We hope to see you next week. Yeah that's great. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it mike. Griffiths rankin kyle. Trask fourth or fifth on his heisman. List bank that one will take a break. Mortar com on this day before thanksgiving. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast we walk in the back end. Judson is up next in maryland. Hey jason hi. Paul how are you. I'm good how are you doing great. Thank you for calling. So i was wondering i mean. It's no secret that georgia hasn't had a good quarterback situation this year. But you doesn't go pro this year. How did they manage shaky daniels. Brock van grip is a good question. johnson. I don't think he will. I just don't think he's got enough experience at georgia. And i know what he did it. S should not really count. So i think he'll stick around but at georgia you never know. It's going to be quite a comparative situation. But but i appreciate very much you asking and you have a great thanksgiving judson be well. David is up next in north carolina. Hey hey david hello politics you hear me i can. Okay good thanks. I just wanna well. I've got a question for you. But i want to compliment you You made the university of tennessee. Look like heart of the south using the word up few skating easily in a sentence understanding what it meant. But david i've had end make. You probably answered this question in the past but sure you yourself. Do you feel like it's right of for public safety public health or even morally for you know these sports programs college sports programs to try to go on when we're in the the pandemic that nobody can control. We don't have a vaccine for yet. Just what You know we're the people listen to you. You know that people value your opinion. You know that and you're on television not just wondering if you kind of get behind or get out in front of the camera and say what you feel about that That that sports sort of situation in the middle of a pandemic. David i of all thank you for saying what you did and it was something that i wrestled with quite a bit during the buildup up to the season but i do believe the college football made the right decision to try to do it. I think there are. There's a lot of downside. I i'm only rushing here because we have to go to a break here in about twenty seconds but i think the next three or four weeks are going to test the souls of the college football leaders. I'll say more have happy thanksgiving. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern.

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Hour 3: Connor Riley

"It's time to rethink. That's why businesses are using hybrid cloud. ai with ibm. Join us at think. Twenty twenty one eleven and see how businesses are working with ibm to solve problems. Like no one else registered. Ibm dot com slash thing cried passionate and pageantry of college. Football leaves here the paul finebaum. Show our three podcast. We welcome you back to the program and we begin the second half with some sad news from honolulu. Colt brennan who played for the university of hawaii. He ran up against a couple of sec. Teams including alabama as well as the university of georgia in the two thousand and eight sugar bowl. He was also the two thousand and seven. Finalists for the heisman finished. Third he has passed away in honolulu at the age of thirty seven years. Old brennan according to reports has had public struggles with alcohol data in fact at hospital in california according to his father terry brennan who said he just spent one too many times on the dark side of life and it caught up with him. We begin the third hour with a conversation with connor rally Who covers the university of georgia and that has been a pretty major topic of conversation. Connor thank you for making time for us and really curious what the topic of conversation has been everywhere. You go good afternoon. Yeah thanks for having me on all just terrible news about colt brennan. Great player that. I got a chance to watch growing up and just really sad and hope for the best for his family. It is really tough and and dying at any age but when you died thirty seven of course yep I'm a long way from that. It just seems it just seems ridiculously young. Hey thanks for being here. Let's talk about the dogs and everyone an opinion of Of of what is all is all about. We've talked to kirby smart twice in the last two weeks as you look at this team I'm curious your thoughts on on on the good and the bad. Well they're going to be a top five team to start the season probably closer to five than one so to speak if jd daniels tastes the steps for that. Everyone sort of thinks he's going to. This could be certainly seen that. I think wins the national title next season. You know the concerns are are in the secondary. I live with what we've seen in college for polo in recent seasons the secondary and the defense. Just don't matter as much in terms of way national title they add. We're gonna raise secondary season ago and alabama the best office in the country. Just blow towards some. It didn't really even matter so it. Jt daniels plays up to his caliber and his potential. In the store offense i. There's no reason why this team can't win. A national title. Accept the fact that there seems to be this jinx out there that every georgia fan is well aware of Talk about that for a second. And how how did the dogs overcome that They've had great teams in the past. That happened national championships. As you well know. I you sorta some bad news. Come way with george pagans. Acl injury and then. There's the four time elephant in the room in alabama answer less. Where yeah they gotta replace matt jones and they're all time great offense but this team is so absolutely loaded at the end of the day. Nick sabin is still calling plays. They're so talented as this georgia team is and i think it's going to be every bit as good as that. Twenty seventeen team was twenty team. That took alabama today there and championship game at the end of the day to find a way to beat alabama to get over this campaign. I think ultimately winning national championship and it starts and ends with that. You mentioned the dvd's and i've i've heard that over and over again from from dog fans Is is that it though. If you're trying to find a weakness you could point to the offensive line and wonder what their ceiling is because you look at the last two national championship winners in lsu in alabama. They will both joe more award winning wines. The best offense wise in the country obviously recruited very well there but to start the season. I think the at that sort of championship caliber level. Now it doesn't mean they can't get there and develop their over. The course of the season by defensive back is your biggest concern. Starting the air. You're off into your second biggest one in opening up against the constantine that might have the best defensive line in the country that's going to present a real issue to winning that big first game of the year. That's a really good point. And you know. I'm i'm not overly you know enthralled with clemson every everything is good but maybe not great but You've just talked about the the scariest part of that program. And that's the defensive line which has been one of their fortes. For many many years under a brent venables talking about the dogs with connor raleigh connor. Eleni let. Let's talk about what the dog's face many we had a guy called. Minute goes to two game season. clemson and alabama. I'm still trying to find alabama on the on the schedule But before we get to alabama which everyone knows about and beyond clemson. I'm gonna go through the schedule for a second because there are some tricky moments. Uab is a good team. I don't expect you beat georgia south carolina. We don't need to go back two years ago. That was an aberration vanderbilt. Arkansas good maybe. Not great auburn. Nobody's really all that impressed with what we think. Auburn is going to be. But here's the game that i think is going to get a lot of attention There's another game after that Kentucky this is a game. Seven of a long black and blue bruising stretch any concern about that game on the sixteen very point all especially you look at the last couple times. Georgia has played kentucky last two particular. Yes look one both of those games. Twenty one nothing when they last nathen and fourteen three seasons ago. When jordan not a cell i would say either of those games i think kentucky did a great job of boutique things up and both those games in this recent. Nfl draft kentucky hasn't recruited on the same level as but kentucky is doing about as good as any sort of middle tier sec program in developing nfl talent. And i think kentucky at the very least is gonna make jordan working trying to win that game you saw even though that kentucky game so sort of similar spot for georgia where his ruling stretch they wanna came fourteen to three but it was incredibly ugly and to end up losing you know jordan davis a key part of their defense in that game and then right afterwards richard the counselors. What was basically a season ending injury and a traffic accident. I kentucky team. They're like they're not like some other teams potentially might so. I think the very good point when it comes to kentucky. And i know we have the by and then they get florida. Which you you be for your winning east. Yeah and missouri after that tennessee and charleston southern tech. I mean. I don't know to me You know and you start with arguably the best team in the country. Maybe not and you end perhaps was alabama but other than that. There's just there's considering some of schedules georgia's played recently. There's not a lot on their. that's why i think you hear this. You bronco caller two game season really clemson game enough for the game. I think the more difficult schedule team like alabama. They're gonna play a really good. Lsu team cash potential to be great. You're gonna play a really talented. Saying mtm explosive on offense jordan had that especially you back out in the season we'll see missouri into but i don't think tennessee charleston southern georgia tech arena pushy. All much so have you can navigate that tricky part of the middle schedule where you're at auburn home for kentucky. And then you're florida in jacksonville. It sets up to rare things could theoretically aligned for georgia to ask the best team heading into that championship game. And i think i think Even though it's made to debating the sec championship game now seems seems Georgia has shown a complete with alabama. I mean anybody who watched the the two The two championship games One of the one of the national championship the dogs. I don't know if they really should have won both games did they certainly should have won. I mean i. You can make an argument. They should have won both games. Yeah i you can also make an argument. Our bama deserve to win both of the two. I actually made me think yes. He's a championship game. in eight. Hundred was the one that they should have wanted to see like. I mean he was about to get that was about to be a blow out. Yeah and jalen hurts his based incredible place for that alabama team. Yeah i agree with you. The other game it was it was an nfl game. And you know but i mean i'm trying to remember the moment in that game in atlanta which was probably never gets the credit for greater was because alabama didn't finish the job but i mean there was a stretch in that game that You could you. I don't know how you could argue that. It was one of the greatest stretches or college football. That's ever been plagued teams retreating blow for blow that day and really. Unfortunately i think just sort of ran out of gas there in the second half and there was. There was a chance there where i had a breakaway early in the third quarter. Able to turn that into a touchdown instead of getting dragged down then daughter misses a field goal. they're able to get to thirty five point sooner. That game i change is totally and missile jalen hurts. Something i mean probably longer is why he really getting this. But it just goes to show to absolutely play with alabama. It just needs to make goes two three four winning play so to speak that end up. Tilting them in their favor. Because the reality is when alabama has played in recent demon alabama has been able to make. All of those plays in. Georgia has not. So what do you think conor you follow this team. You hear the fans You converse with them Where where does georgeanne the season what. What's what what does it look like. I absolutely think they're gonna win the sec. Use and i think we're very chandler twelve in our entering that game and if your way you beat clemson and you run through your sec east late. You may not even need to win an sec championship. Game to get the college football playoff just like you did. Where were you saw with notre dame season ago how we settle that until i see georgia actually doing naturally beat alabama and get that monkey off back. I just don't want to sit here. Say yes they can do because they've been so close for so on basically my entire adult life. Twenty twelve day came up short in the championship. Game that year until i see them to it. I'm just going to be a little real skeptical a little hesitant to come out now. Right say this is a team that is going to beat alabama. Even how great eighteen game was. i started thinking about the game and twelve and that fourth quarter affected. Your georgia had pulled that off. I'm not sure anything of top that win. That was so you know. It's so bizarre into one particular. Hey thanks for coming on. Always great to talk to you. Be well and we will talk to you very soon. No problem thanks for having me paul. Thank you connor. Reilly joining us talking about the dogs and we will get back to your calls. We're pretty the rest of the way if you wanna give us a ring. Eight five two four two seven two eight five. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Do you own or read your home share you do and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. 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Are we close to the beginning of the end of the sabin dynasty. Oh man paul. Only zoe enhancer. That was a no come Man i want to tell you what's happened paul. Now not only does mick. Saving how twenty. Five first round draft picks every year but now we can go have to five stars. College football free agency. Paul thanks for two to appreciate it. Well i p. golden. Call me so you got anybody up there in rocky top. I said he's our shot. Yeah man. I watched tennessee to one player. That always stood out to me was tutu. I said man food there can play doh you though. I just want to thank the university of tennessee for giving us your best player man. I mean i didn't know you cared about us out. Sick i mean. How's it over paul. How's it over. A may twitter like tim folks in the first run here. Guess what next year. We're going to the same kind and the year after that goes the time everybody lights is over politics touch with reality. I mean if you look at that decides coming back this year. Alabama's gonna be nasty again. And i mean the dynasty is nowhere close to bid over pol. So do me a favor call us. We love you. do we respect you. Don't feel like the rest of these areas as about oklahoma and the puppies. I mean georgia. I made one of them. Paul stand up was the truth on. They wanna new. England is thing was over. It was over the was gone was going off and alabama's still going on paul. It's nowhere close to the over. I mean all thirty senior. You're on the field. I think you're one hundred percent correct absolutely next day. Even i mean either young. How does he now seventy. I mean i mean he's he is still a very young sixty nine. Yeah i mean. Are you quitting anytime soon. Paul i mean you close the Are you kidding me. I want to ask me the other day. Have you ever thought about slowing down. I said no no. Hey i know we've all been home more than we've ever been mad inside again. What's that what's that. What's that willie nelson song from the seventies On the road again to get on the road to get me back on the road again. Was that that. Put oklahoma number one mark. What's day i don't even remember. It was just somebody who's trying a mark schlabach. Yeah here's the thing about oklahoma. We know who you are. You are the georgia bulldogs the mid west. That's osh watching the play offs. They'll the kid we not going day in the conversation oklahoma. We know you'll tell them. Make it but this is what we sollozzo here. The georgia joint win ms reality currently child. We gotta hear children's say the jordan balances that we got here at home. We know who's you folks are. Y'all look at politics get off. I just wanna tell gumbo this your something shot and killed merle gumbo. We're really the wasco. Let me tell you something gumbo. We feel ole miss in the lanes train more. We feel you middle of the pack one of me texas. Nfl so sexual mile. Before you get backhanded a gene this year we feel you. We friendly train and we don't fear him with the godfather football. Don't come out of your mouth sideway gumbo 'cause we're going to beat you and giorgia employ. J. t. georgia fans y'all steal puppies go believe that. Hey love you do. Hey thanks ladies go to hear from legend bringing some some heat today anyway. More of your calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five and let's talk to bammer but we just did. Let's bammer go right ahead. O- paul hall. Listen if if that guy. Just had john connor reilly things that georgia is going to go twelve now that he is drinking cola. The legend is talking about. Let me tell you something. There's a term that all Davos way they used to hate this call clemson he. He used to get under his skin. Kinda like you you get under his skin. But here's the deal georgia. We can call george. George always lose a game that they supposed to win. Hello south carolina. Hello tennessee come on if they really say that georgia is gonna run the table that he has got another thing coming. I just don't understand why these georgia fans wait till next year. Thank they they they gotta team. What do you think paul well. What are you supposed to do though. If you're georgia fan you're you've you've had great teams that have lost alabama. You think of that team in twenty twelve. That's aim easily. Would beat notre dame. You had a team a couple years ago that probably the seventeen team was was a was a play away from winning it The other team could have wanted. I take it back. I don't think. I don't think that georgia team could have been clemson. But you're still talking about many mixed opera missed opportunities. I mean rick out a couple great teams that manage to find a way to blow it exactly. Paul manage to find a way to blow it. And i think that's what georgia does that is should be the motto their tagline. We've managed to find a way to blow it. Hey paul you have a good day. hey thank you. it's really good to hear from you. Continue legend. Apparently people upset in jackson. Mississippi you're on the air. Hey paul From jackson first time caller lanky. I'm listener Along to respond to let you know like legend. He's a is a legend on your show. It's east thrilled for the court For the linebacker we gave him. He's gotta get his name right. You know it ain't too dancing with some around. You know like a ballerina. His name's toe toe. So get it right legend. I will make sure. Legend goes to his Strengths grow grammatical guide and correct one. More time how do you say it. Go toyota okay. It's t. o. hyphen o. te'o hyphen. Oh he was close. Thank you for the call Nick is up next. Hey nick thanks good afternoon. Hey do we are doing really well. I have two things to ask you me. I'm a huge fan of what a school there have been mean fans a whole life Father went to school their mother body. We it's been in the past few years bosch. Ask if it's a. Do you think it's realistic. That south carolina could get back to a bowl. this year. I just i. I haven't heard you guys talk too much about it. But i i am not. I am not optimistic now. We're talking about this coming up. And i i've said it constantly. I really like beamer. I think he's brought some an infusion of excitement. But you look at this i'm gonna. I'm gonna run to the schedule for a second. That's the only way to figure it out. That's tough eastern illinois carolina troy c. Three games they're three three wins. Can we find a fourth Georgia georgia on the road. No kentucky at home. don't think so tennessee. Maybe that's a. That's a toss game in knoxville. No way flirted home. I don't think so missouri and columbia. I don't think so auburn maybe Three i see five. Maybe the yeah possibly okay. I know i'm i'm signing. Wishy washy they. They need to turn one of those games that that are toss ups and they could maybe scratch out six wins. Maybe yeah i think that's correct. I think that's where a lot of Game combination sitting right now. I mean that's i'll i'll be at ucla at georgia. I know the easter long game probably sold out Have i mean that's that's a that could also go away for is usually pretty respectable. We don't want to walk into that thinking we're high body but Yeah here. Here's my issue in. And i'm leaning on people who have been to spring practice and you never know what somebody else sees i. What what what. what what. A friend of mine told me that that had been there was this. He just didn't see a lot of difference maker players now. That doesn't mean you can't be good with a good coach and molding them but this team is is devoid of great talent. I think you know that. Of course spring game was not very flashy and It just it is what is. Hey thank you for the call. I really appreciate it. I was talking about day to day But but you don't know Right now with the way. The portal is you. Could you could pick up a couple of difference makers overnight. I mean south carolina's lost a couple of really good players. Though heading to break your phone calls continuing we are opening up lines with every every everybody saying goodbye. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five more to come right after this. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Wnba is on its way back playing basketball in a pandemic looks like this. No mask no six feet apart took put yourself in. Harm's way it was decision. We are dedicating this season. To ron taylor the unity that we were able to experience with something that we won't forget and we can lean on as we move forward. I would do it all over again because bigger than me to figure than my teammates. Espn films presents. One forty four presented by honda may thirteenth at nine pm eastern on. Espn we welcome you back. It's great to have all of you here Legend has really stirred up a hornet's nest. We'll get some more reaction to him in just a minute right now. Jeff is columbus ohio. Hello jeff what's going on paul. Jeff we are doing great. What's up with you. And it's good to hear allegedly come in and raise the pressure on the show a little bit man. I mean. I was afraid you'd have to get the fifty late around. The show was so dead here for a while. But it's nice to see the blood pressure rise up a little bit tonight. Yeah every time somebody wants to write us off we We have to set slight comeback. I know i love it. Hey paul do you ever say anything on the show or talk to people and people here what they wanna hear and not what you really said. Does that ever happen to you. Oh it's happened to me a couple of times when it was really really painful because People completely misunderstood and this representative daily but last week or whenever was couple of weeks ago. Like called you might remember. I said that. I think the georgia fan tallinn to have you validate that. They might be good this year. You remember that. I do yes. Yeah so i'm talking about their fan base in some clown. Georgia fan comes in about three minutes later in wants to remind me work. Justin field gang rob. Hey i know. He's from georgia. But what's that got to do is what i was talking about. It has nothing to do. I didn't say one thing about a player. Did i know yeah so. I don't get what these guys are coming from. It's time to pick. I love it man. People need to climb all over these georgia fans. Because i told you that nightfall. They'd got their tail between their legs coming to you to tell them they're going to be good because they don't believe they're going to be good because like less instead they always find a way to to To mess it up. That's that's their mo. You know what i'm saying but anyway last night or two nights ago i heard you haven't ls guy call in and rip it on lsu instead. He wanted to hear from some lsu saying disney. That is exactly right. Yeah and i think he called out. All i gotta give all these some credit. I think i've heard all come in and say he's really upset and and infuriated by of these accusations and lsu. But you know who. I'd love to hear from. Where's old righteous bread from plano texas. Oh yeah i mean. That guy haven't heard from him. Yeah i haven't heard from him either. But i love to hear what old righteous fred has to say about about his beloved tigers. I mean yeah. It's it's a mess down there but it just kind of. That's the first person i thought fall. That guy said that but hey how about holder has got things stirred up that ne- yeah just read an article You may have heard the guy on. Espn today talking about. There's division in the franchise you know what you and i know urban. There's no division. If he makes he made a decision right get rid of those who are divided. Care it all. These people are thinking. Does he know jeff darling. Song was on the get up this morning and He he he had this This interesting comment. He said that. There's there's a lotta people down there that that are unhappy about this. Yeah i mean ball when you hire people like if you were to leave and go to another station or whatever. Don't you sometimes go to the people that you trust. I mean in business. Every day people hire people. Maybe not 'cause there's a bass or whatever they trust them. You know what i mean. Well sure would get inside. Even the organization. I work for and guarantee you you could. You could quote anonymous sources Saying that they don't agree right. I mean i don't understand while these talking heads like golick. I heard him rise up here yesterday. I mean why are they so stirred up about this. I really don't understand why. Why are they so stood up about. I was on with keyshawn. Johnson today Hold on saying only. Let me play this emily. If you can grab the keyshawn. Johnson cut about about tim. Tebow wanted to get your okay here. Here's what keyshawn said is laughable is a problem on both sides to me. Here's the problem starting with the jacksonville. Jaguars you're trying to rebuild something from the ground a built something from the ground up and understand the relationship that you have with a coach. All coaches tend to bring in like jay said people that kind of understand their program in you know but not six years after they can retire. Stop it call it. what it is. This wouldn't happen to nobody else. Except remind tim tebow but urban meyer also must understand that those people that are inside the locker room those players they sitting there going. What the hell you doing there. You go i mean why. Why are these guys. Got a spell on. How would they not by won't earned the trust of the teammates. I don't yet. I mean why not give it a chance and then critiquing all these guys gotta jump up any more and make a name for themselves and get out on the front page before they even know how things are working out. That's what drives me nuts about the media today. Paul and they're not accountable like i've said for years and what they say before they because they could be wrong and nobody really cares. They do it every day. I mean you coming from well. Part of the part of the issue. You're right about a lot of it. But part of it is and i find myself in this situation especially in the fall when i'm doing multiple shows on big platforms where there's no new on can say something here in in for one way or the other but on those shows whatever you say it's disseminated and it's usually disseminated in the most inflammatory manner possible right but i mean if if if people doesn't make the team gets cut you know whatever all these guys are gonna rise up again and distant. I told you so. But if urban wants to bring him in and bring him in. I mean if i want to hire a guy in my business i'm gonna hiree i. I just don't understand the the outpouring of of you know the. How much odyssey tim tim. Tebow and urban meyer lightning rod. You know for for a lot of people. And i just don't understand it. I really don't. It's a great question. Hey thanks jeff. It's always cool to hear from you. We are heading to a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast else is playing. Tom and tom to lock in the final playoff spots. It gives clean something to play for. Defend your position and haymakers charlton and upset. The anything can happen in a given night and begin your run. Only the strong survive make history. It's not done yet win to get in time. It's nba on espn. Tom the state farm play intern may eighteen th through the twenty first on. Espn and we're back here on a tuesday afternoon in johnny is up next. Hey johnny thank you. Good afternoon spec mccall. Of course i had the their own. In i l and i'm all tied into sold like the legend was talking about. Yeah aol might be dan of all dynasties you're in order for guys to get to get paid for their name likeness and they gotta be on the field. Play it and all these guys that have. These guys are set on the bench for two three years before they get on the bill. Those players are willing to go so what can get on the field. No you're you're you're right about that completely amazed that it may it may equal out a good bit You know all these everybody be having better players and then it'd be more competition that'd be more folks in the playoffs because different teams and then i got something to say about you when you're reading escape jews for all these teams and you look at and you say well. They got all the net. Maybe a win. Auburndale are very talented team. And they're going to win some games and georgia and alabama better not be sleeping when they come over because albany who get on them to. Yeah i'm aware of that. I've been to auburn seen some tremendous winds. But i'm just not convinced that They have the players this year. That can compete with alabama and georgia. And i may not but they still a good talented team and we got to see what the new coach is like. We haven't seen him. You're right. I mean we. We have no idea We know what he's done and but we don't know what he's gonna do. Well thank you for the call. Thank you very much. I got one comment on jail. Take your time hate must have very good workers for him in the face building houses because it seems like he spends all his time watching and listening to the talk shows. Sports talk shows. He knows what said auto. That's a that's a. That's a good gig isn't it. i'd it is just. Hey i need to go build this house. Apple watch felt. I'm gonna go ahead and finish that That subdivision that's thanking for Thanks for calling appreciate it very much. You take care of yourself. Let's continue and william who is up next in florida. Hey william thank you. How are you doing today. we're doing great. Thank you to hear my question was. I'm a diehard florida gator. fan a couple things a. How do you see us doing this year. Kind of You know The shoot the bed was the last four games last season. But we have amory jones coming in anthony. Richardson as our quarterback. You know the backup I just got a question for you. Because i've respected you for seven years now. How do you see us doing this year. Well thank you for saying that I think the gators are going to have a very good year I i. I see them winning most of the games. I don't see them winning against georgia. And i'm trying to think if i see another loss but I really i two losses on the schedule. Right now And i think they're pretty obvious which ones they are. They're they're lsu in georgia yes sir. Yep yep that's kind of what i see as well and you know the the georgia game last year. I was very surprised by with happy where they was limited capacities of the good experience for me. Because that's the last few years as you know we have not done well against georgia so that was a good highlight but The end of the it was not great the well. I think it was really a pretty good year. it And i know that you can't wipe away the ending but it was progress. And and that's what. Dan mullen needed to do He needed to show that that thing that this program was back. And i think it is which i like the end to And i think emory jones you know as a as a good dual threat. He can bring a bring a different thing going on there. I don't know if we're gonna do the tim. Tibo thing like we do have a traffic an emmy last year but anthony richardson. I think has a good potential But i really like to see kind of be in contention but as you said you know unfortunately as as as diehards am. I don't. i don't think we're gonna lose a couple of games But in and you know this kind of way the cookie crumbles. I think we need to get get some more. You know damn well a little more time to to develop that program. We'll great to hear from you Thank you so much. You take care yourself. We have a few more moments here on this segment and Let me Check in with bobby. Who is in atlanta. Hey bobby thank you paul. A fellow mit tell. Ut san so wonderful about the nfl I talk like talk. A little bit about quarterback situation tennessee this year. No the new coach got hansel Opportunities with all the summer transfer portal. You know with the linebackers leaving and everything else. So you guys are going to have his hands full. So i guess my question is when i look at the quarterback situations. They've got the guy from virginia tech it's going to be a potential Starter they've also. Got the trees for for michigan. The guy bailey that finished the years starter. And so i guess. My question is about brian. Our so i watched him play in person. Watched them on tv. You reminds me a lot of to you. Know to play at alabama in terms of his athleticism in got cannon for an arm. So you think. He's got a realistic shot this year. That's a tough question. you also have. I think you mentioned milton Coming in. I hate to run. Let me let me answer this when we come back. Thanks so much for the call eight. We had to cut short. We will come back another hour to go right after this. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show weekdays on the sec network beginning at fleet eastern. Hey this is bomani jones. What's your favorite podcast. 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Episode #130  Clemson v Notre Dame / Florida Georgia

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Episode #130 Clemson v Notre Dame / Florida Georgia

"It is monday november ninth for patriots subscribers. It is tuesday november tenth for the rest of us. Two minutes to sports. I anzac smith your host as always. What are we going to college. Football huge huge matchup. Notre dame clemson awesome win by notre dame. Finally get a top five win. The program is not a phony. They played phenomenon. I'm jack to talk about it. Because i want to talk about what they did. How they did it. We can talk about trevor lawrence being out. And don't get me wrong. I think that definitely played a factor. In in the game i mean. Dj who younger. Malay played really. Well he missed a couple throws that. I think trevor would have made. But we'll talk about that as we get into the meat of the show. Also the florida gators just dominated georgia. It exposed georgia's offense stetson bennett and kirby smart for exactly. What i've said he is in has been all year. It is undeniable. That georgia team was not good enough to be in the national conversation. Despite the fact that media forced fed them down your throat as top five team. They never were. They never have been this year and they never will be. It will never change. They might sneak a win here there because they have a pretty solid defense but they are not a relevant team on the national landscape. Simple as that also wanna talk very end of the show. We're going do an in-depth analysis breaking down what we have learned about the buckeyes through the first quarter of the season. That'll be the second half of the show. So if you're not a subscriber on you should go sign up patriae dot com forward slash menaces sports for three dollars a month you get full episodes. The other thing we're doing tomorrow. I've talked about it forever. But that segment. I will shoot a video. Part of our menace. tv will be coming out tomorrow. So if you haven't subscribe to our youtube. I know we have a bunch of subscribers on there. 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Lucky for me depressed combating speaking this. Well we have trouble with. The ball is free. It's picked up by michigan state. Jalen watts jack said only get the fuck outta here. Well first things first. We're not gonna break down the game because we didn't intend to those other big games we have to break down for the buckeye fans. Have your fixed coming at the end of the show. We're gonna talk in-depth buckeye football from a coach's perspective and we're really excited to talk about it. Because i spend a lot of time on it. But the buckeyes won. Saturday forty nine twenty seven in the smallest margin of victory in series history with rutgers. Graciano pulled out all the stops. All the trick plays the throwback punt return. You name it. He pulled out all the stops and he kept it. Close forty nine twenty seven heading into the game saturday. We'll have stated beaten rutgers by at least thirty five points every time they played and obviously a twenty two point. victory was under the spread. That is one of the things we lost. We ohio state would cover. And i'm gonna tell you what had halftime it sure looks like it but just field played play dominant. The receivers are ridiculous. The run game is still really below average. And the defense man. They got a lot to figure out. Carrie combs has to has to get it done because this is not looking like the silver bullets last year. But like i said we'll talk about all that towards the in the second half of the show for those of you. That are die. Hard buckeyes but let's talk about the landscape man. west coast. football is back. I clay helton score. Fourteen fourth quarter points to beat herm edwards arizona state sun devils twenty eight twenty seven which was an awesome game. If you didn't watch it kind of bizarre a nine. Am kickoff out there. So they could be the noon game. I get it. I mean it gets the pac twelve in front of most of the country because it's earlier but it's an early game. Amin noon games. We used to wake up at seven. Am i don't know what time you wake up for nine. am game. but i know this much. You'd better be at the stadium by seven. Am two hours before so you can get taped and warmed up and all that. So i don't know what wake time is. I would imagine. It's gotta be six. Am and you've got to rush through eat breakfast and go. No meetings no walk-throughs. I don't know how much actually i'm going to reach out to Some of my buddies in in the pac twelve. Because i'm curious. How does that work. Like i said for a noon game. We had seven. Am wakeup five hours. Before the game. I don't think you're gonna wake up five hours before nine. Am kick four am wakeup call. Good luck playing well without any kind of sleep but you came back in one to give klay hilton a one and start the game of note and team of note. I'm excited to start talking about them. Because they were one of the teams in the off season. I thought had a chance to be in that conversation. Oregon eve devoid of justin. Herbert i still think they have a solid team. I love morio cristobal. They are a pack twelve team. That knows how to run the ball because they have a tough s o. Line coach is the head coach. So that's a dangerous aspect to have to add into a pack twelve team so they absolutely hated stanford thirty five fourteen played extremely well really happy to have them back on the landscape and the other game are other game of the week. Byu absolutely dismantled boise state fifty one seventeen so byu is as real as you can get them in. Cincinnati are as real as you can get in non power five football and so the question is this. let's play out a scenario. Let's say that clemson beats notre dame and the acc championship game. which i think will happen with trevor lawrence. They had injuries guys. Didn't travel and i'm not making excuses. Notre dame just dominated him but let's say is full strength full health and beats notre dame and acc championship game. all right. that's one part of this scenario. The other part is what. If florida beat bama in the sec championship. Now that one. I don't think is gonna happen. I think that is unlikely. But the question is who gets in ohio state assuming they can beat indiana which is probably the toughest game of the year side note. Go get your tickets ace online. Braxton and i are holding a watch party on campus for the indiana ohio state game so decide no but ohio state. Let's say their undefeated. Obviously they get in. let's say florida. They beat alabama. Sec championship game. Routed georgia their only loss came to texas. Say them so their candidate. One bama undefeated through the regular season loss to florida. Maybe a close game in sec championship game. Can they still get in. Or what about texas am beat. Florida lost obama early and obviously didn't make it to atlanta because bama had to head to head tiebreaker can am sneak in and then clemson lost on the road to notre dame without trevor lawrence. You'd have to imagine they get in the last. The the next team is notre dame beat clemson undefeated regular season lost to clemson whom they already beat right so those are the six most likely candidates for the college football playoff and then the three outliers organ. Can they go undefeated with a smaller sample size resume. Can they get in over a one loss team in this scenario and cincinnati and byu. If they go undefeated do they deserve a shot over. Let's say a florida who only losses to or over clemson lost on the road at notre dame without trevor lawrence. Do they deserve a shot. Byu the best. The best quarterbacks to typically and grade wise in the country is playing byu. Do they get a chance because the reality is those are the nine hundred still in contention so my question to you. Dms post about it on twitter. Who out of those nine will be in the cfp. Nine teams right now on the cusp. Who are the four. The final four is it texas. a and m. is it oregon is it who could be that the dark horses sneak in. So that's my question is interesting to play out kind of the different scenarios as we come down the wire but i want to talk about. Let's get some game analysis. The first game while was michigan. Indiana michael junior in indiana just scorched. Don brown's defense. I mean threw for three hundred forty two yards and three touchdowns it was a complete and absolute ask kicking of epic proportions. Michigan ran the ball and this is not in the first quarter. Not in the first half. They did not average. This in totality in total michigan ran the ball for thirteen yards. Thirteen yards on top of that. How about this stat for you. Indiana ray ran thirty. Six more offensive plays than michigan. They outgained a bio one hundred yards. How did they do that. You gotta look at it. How did indiana get thirty. Six extra plays on offense. That's unfair right. Here's how they did it. They were fifty five percent on third and fourth down. Michigan was twenty-seven percent half as productive. So indiana kept drives alive and ran place and they beat the. I mean they literally beat. The brakes off of michigan is what they did. And the greatest evidence of the state of michigan program. Right now was on. How indian scored their first two touchdowns. Both of indiana's first of touchdowns first touchdowns came on free. Plays free plays where they gave a hard count. The defense jumped offsides so they snapped the ball knowing they had a free five yard penalty and no matter what happened on that play. that was worst case scenario. They gained five yards so they launched it to the end zone twice both times touchdowns free place. That's the lack of discipline. I don't have the staff i should. I should have looked it up. They jumped offsides like ten times. They had to of just the lack of discipline on the defensive line. And don brown in this defense are not. They're not gonna cut it. I don't know to say the oh line. Michigan office line played horrific. Shout ed warner best coach. In the world they played terrible. The offense was a complete mess. I that ronnie bell played exceptional joe. Milton played decent but the offense as in its totality was a mess and the defense got bent over and spanked. It was embarrassing for don brown to say the least so the question is is this the time those of you that weren't on the bandwagon or weren't on the train last week when i when i said it was going full steam. If you weren't on the train last week you need to jump on jim. Harbaugh has overstayed his welcome. I guess unless you're a buckeye fan and then you're really rooting for a lifetime contract for the son of a bitch. It's over if i'm a michigan fan it is over. It's time to move forth and find anyone else. Is it luke fickle. Is it matt campbell or is it like ohio. State did oklahoma. Did georgia did clemson. Did maybe you need to find an elite coordinator. That could be the next hot coach. You look at the track record these these school so who is in the top right now right oregon hired a coordinator. You could say was used to be a head coach at fau. I know that but they hired a coordinator their their program is is is a very elevated right georgia coordinator alabama okay proven head coach right florida kind of proven head coach all right clemson coordinator. Ohio state coordinator. I mean the list goes on and on and on oklahoma coordinator. Sometimes you go with these proven head coaches and they don't always work out. I'll texas and tom. Herman la michigan. Jim harbaugh i would love to know the percentage on that. So that's my opinion. Michigan needs to move on and they need to do a great job finding the next coach because last time it was just the the easy choice. Right throw a shitload emma. Money at the prodigal son. Jim harbaugh and he will just bring the program back simple as that. No need to actually do some work and figure it out no need to have some balls and hire a guy like gene smith did when he hired day at takes balls. That takes work. You really really have to be in tune with the game and college football to know who is going to be successful. And who's not and even then it's not an exact science but it's time for jim harbaugh to go simply that and now breaking news today. Lucky michigan wisconsin is able to play after forfeiting two games in my opinion. They forfeited two games. Barry alvarez wash michigan and said you know what. We don't need to sit this one out. Let's take this cake win. Even though surprise surprise. I'm gonna actually pick michigan. Beat wisconsin in that game but never mind that they have to play the badgers and you know they didn't want to have to play. After the two games they just went through. What an embarrassment. But that the state of michigan program and really the state of the big ten state of the midwest. And if you are a true how state fan much. As you'd like to see michigan lose is bad for the brand. What notre dame did for mid west football on saturday was huge. It was epic it was janoris to take down clemson and beat them the way they did gave the brand of midwest football a stronger name if notre dame and ohio state can make the playoffs and maybe what if they they win in play each other or what if they play each other. Semis or what god. Can you imagine a national championship. Ohio state notre dame state fans have wet dreams for a month as well notre dame fans. What are we talking about. That would be unbelievable. But let's get to the sec. Showdown of the week. The battle for the east. Dan mullen in the florida gators in the world's largest outdoor cocktail party take on or took on kirby smart and the georgia bulldogs. And i want you to think about before we get to the game. Think about kirby smart looking at his. Qb group back in may or june one. He's thinking. I should have justin field right now. I and foremost i fucked that up. We rode jake from state farm and we don't have justin fields. He should be coming back for a heisman candidate. Year for us georgia. That's number one. That's number one but never mind that. He knew he had a problem right. He knew he had a problem because fields wasn't there frahm is gone. He didn't doin mathis was going to be young. He needed to get a guy so he goes out and gets two of them. Jt daniels the starting quarterback at usc that hurt his knee and grad transferred was eligible. Right away and then jamie newman. The guy who the kid who lit up at wake forest. So he's riding into the season. Say i have to s- former starters to run this program which is all i need. I need a quarterback. We have a running back. We have at least one receiver. We're going to be better off than last year. Defense should be strong. He's looking at his. Qb group saying we got a chance. And what happens he loses jamie jamie newman to an opt-out which is ridiculous then. Jt daniel starts the year. I guess he was injured. But i don't know what the fuck the deal is now because jt daniels is at least played at an. let's call it an average level in the pac twelve. Let's let's let's give kirby the benefit of the doubt and say that. Jd daniels is average. What we watched on saturday and have watched all year and i have preached it every week. Almost every episode is the worst quarterback play at georgia in a long time. Since i can remember. it's it was awful so stats and bennett. Who does not belong. Sec football field. He has five of sixteen five complete passes in the game five for thirty one percent overall. They didn't even have to blitz him floridian the blitz and they only blitzed them five times in the whole game and he was three for twelve because he was three for twelve twenty five percent. Completion percentage versus base defense. Do you understand what that means. Not pressured base defense. They're playing generic coverages and he cannot complete passes. One out of every four was complete. He was three on deep balls to eleven over ten yards fucking horrendous. Awful awful quarterback play. And so what do they do. They finally benched him. and i made the comment. Why did it take this long. And a bunch of people came back. You must not have watched the first game. Duan mathis looked out of place. I know that. I'm doin' matheson's to answer. But at least he can run it a little bit. He's a little athletic and he completed a deep ball. For for christ sake. He threw a touchdown pass. Unfortunately he was not much better than stetson. He did a deep ball. Thank god he was four twelve thirty three percent. So i mean say what you want. He was still better for for twelve years. One completion better and one of them was a deep ball. for touchdown. i did throw two picks. But he's a freshman. If you to road that freshman from game one he be twice the player he is today. You might lost the game. But at least you'd have a better offencive system offensive playmaker at quarterback in at least if nothing else the kick run around a little bit which is far better than stats in bennett combined. They were nine of twenty nine for one hundred twelve yards and three interceptions. Three point nine yards per completion. That's bad per rush in the run game let alone in the past game and after the game my favorite kirby smart was asked. And here's his quote he said right now we feel like stetson and dewan give us a better shot because they have a better body of work that left me scratching my head like what is the body of. They have a better body of work than jt daniels. Jt hasn't been given the opportunity to have a body of work. Never mind the fact that no one has a better a body of work. No one is the worst body of work than bennett. Mathis have right now no one. It's just a an abomination an abomination and then zamir white had that one explosive. Seventy five yard run. It was a great run his abilities right but other than that he was just okay. He only had six carries outside of that. They only handed him the ball. Seven times i just can't understand it. You think you're going to beat a good football team. Writing the arm of stetson bennett. He averaged thirty thirty two yards on six carries outside of the seventy five yard. Run five carey. That's not bad price handed to a more overall. The team georgia's offense minus the one. Big big hit had ninety yards rushing on twenty eight carries for three point two yards per carry. The offense was a absolutely abysmal. How about this. George only reached the the red zone once never mind never mind scorn in the red zone. You gotta get there. They reached the red zone one time and they were two of thirteen on third down. That is just absolutely pitiful fifteen percent. You'll never win a game. You can't keep a single drive alive. And it all comes down and falls at the feet of your quarterback georgia florida really put together their most and i really solid defensive performance of the year and it was against such an offense that we still have to talk about it but they only missed five tackles the at twenty qb pressures three sacks. Four tackles for loss and twenty defensive. Stops georgia did a horrendous job involving curious jackson they targeted other kid they have matt landers the most in the past game five times and they were over five throwing the ball. They launched four depots to him over four. Here's only saw three targets. Past the line of scrimmage and he hit on two of the three including his touchdown. I sometimes coaches are fucking idiots. You know that don't overcomplicate it. You got a back. That's average of five yards a carry that you should be able to run. The ball decently florida's run defense was just average and then you have a star receiver. Get him the ball. Find a way. It's called game planning. You don't have to be peyton manning. Tom brady to throw it to a receiver. You set to have good game plan ways to get him touches. They didn't they didn't none. Have it. Now say this. Kyler elam the quarterback the cornerback for florida. Who by the way. His dad was a great player at notre dame recruited them. I know really well. Abe elam kyler elam was lights out. He was targeted six times on the day and only gave up one catch to the running back. James cook for four yards. Landers was over three on kyw year. Markle wilson on the other side saw minimal action allowing no catches on the only two targets that came his way. So ultimately florida's defense stepped up that israeli career elam marco wilson both played well now granted against average receivers two year broken record. Georgia has averaged receivers. I don't know if you know that it's bad. But here's what it is a bad day for your offense when your highest greatest players amir white was the highest grade player. Seventy three percent grade. He only saw the football seven times. And your two quarterbacks graded out the lowest on the team stats in bennett graded out forty. One percent to one is twenty six percent. Just let's let's just take commonsense. I promise you that that my daughter who's eight years old could do this. Make this decision better than smart and todd monkey if done do you want your best player. Highest rated player touching the ball more or your lowest great player. Your quarterback throwing the ball to win. What's a better way. I get it. They got down to throw it. This is i mean it's an aptitude at it's at the highest level. You couldn't screw these decisions up more than kirby. Smart is i mean. Forty percent and twenty six percent. How much worse can jt. Daniels really be like. This is a joke. And what is wrong with kirby smart and the oc quarterback coach todd mahnken. If it wasn't bad enough they had to watch justin feels dominate last year. And now this year they will give. Jt daniels a chance to take the reins. I can promise you this much. It cannot be worse it can't be. I'm going to tell you what it's just an it's disgusting now on the other side of it kyle. Trask while he showed out seventy percent completion. Thirty or forty three three for four on deep ball. Seventy four percent. Twelve for fifteen over ten yards eighty percent. It was a dominant quarterback performances period. It wasn't even close. They were the tale of two cities. The jekyll and hyde kyle trask dominant. Whoever was it quarterback for georgia. Just awful seven of sixteen on third down is decent and a big game like i said on the show many times you wanna be over fifty percent but if you're around that forty five percent range i mean you're going to be at the top ten in the country a forty five percent and in a big game that's phenomenal so it was excellent by florida. Florida had the ball fifteen minutes more than georgia and control the game from i mean georgia scored the first two drives and then joe florida took it over and it was. It was never gained after that now. The issue florida those issues. Let's let's talk about the issues. They have that will rear their head. In december against alabama. Ten of their thirty completions were two running backs. Two hundred twelve tracks. Four hundred seventy four yards running backs. That's not great for the throw game. Especially when you don't have travis at the end right you're throwing some average backs. They're florida's top five graded threats in the past game on saturday where two running backs and three tight ends. Now get me wrong. Katie is a monster canaries. Tony was. He is a great player. I'm not going to discount him. He was targeted ten times. Twice as many as anyone else and real seven but only at forty two yards. But i'll give florida fans that he is he is a monster and kyle pits is a monster. But they need other receivers. I know trayvon grimes. A contested catch high pointed a ball. Excellent on campbell. It was a phenomenal catch. But he doesn't get open. Sorry he's got to get open. Richard account not playing for george. I've talked about him all year. He's one of the best safety. If not the best safety in the country. Not playing for georgia certainly was a big factor. Even know kyle pits didn't do a ton he only two looks in the game. But if you remember the preview episode georgia had not allowed a touchdown to tight end all year and he broke that streak on saturday. The other georgia didn't do in kirby's defense they didn't get to trask effectively at all the whole game. They only recorded one sack. They're averaging over three a game and they only hit trask five times on his forty four passing place now. The right tackle. Gene was the glaring weakness. Impasse bro. He allowed seven of the quarterback pressures on the next highest by a single player was to a glaring weakness and other one. The other thing. That florida did they took the blueprint that alabama laid out for them. Steve sarkisian gave them the formula to attack. Georgia dan mullen went after tyson campbell. He that he was targeted. Five times gave up four catches and three of those four catches touchdowns kyle pits kenmore gamble and trayvon. Grimes all scored on tyson and he is evidently in a rut right now that he needs to pull out because he's a far better player than he's played in georgia's two biggest games this year. I know i watch them all year. And i was doubting him as one of the best in the country because he is talent wise but he has had to rough games that he needs to bounce back from in all reality. Georgia's corner struggled all game. Twenty one targets thirteen catches one hundred seventy yards and four touchdowns when they were in coverage. So you've got to give it to dan. Mullen you gotta give it to florida. You gotta give it to kyle trask. What a game. And what a win for the gators a dominant performance in the biggest game. They'll have all year until this each game and they are they're poisoning to make people think twice about that that alabama matchup now. I'm here to tell you it's not even close. But at least they should be able to. They'll they'll perform better than i thought they would have three weeks ago. They're showing some flashes some improvements. They still need skill on the perimeter. Their defense has to show me that again against a better offense and they have no run game and that's that's that's ultimately a downfall if they don't have a single threat in the run game so great win by florida terrible loss by georgia but the picture and sec is becoming clearer. It is the three team race for a playoff berth. And it's alabama florida and am period. Enter discussion georgia's out. I said georgia was out three weeks ago but anyways that is what it is but the game of the week for two teams. That are playoff teams. Probably they looked like playoff teams. Certainly clemson at notre dame south bend indiana under the lights with not a lot of people in the in the stands. It was the best game. I've seen all year. What a great football game. I mean obviously going to double o. T. and and just the back and forth notre dame goes up early clemson battles back. It was a phenomenal game. But the most confusing thing to me corona rose the cove nation was. Why in the hell can trevor lawrence be on the sideline. Taking his mask off talking to players spreading his germs. What can he do that and not play. What is the difference if he gets his germs on all the players on clemson's team and they go on the field and play notre dame's players notre dame's players those germs to so one of two things is true one is. He's not contagious. So just let him play or he is contagious. And nobody seems to give a shit. Because this is all prefer perspective perception. I guess not perspective all perception. That's what it is. It's one of the two so if you're corona bro one. Probably don't listen to the show because you're a fucking idiot or two you do this show and you hate me because i'm over this shit. I'm so over it however other news the election happened. Finally now we have vaccines coming out. Fucking miraculous isn't it. I'm not gonna go there though. But the biggest thing i saw was just total team. Football clemson obviously struggled first half had a solid second half to tie. The game ended up going to overtime right. In the first half they average starting field position was the twenty one yard line in the second half. It was the thirty two yard line. That's eleven yards. Better your stats go up. Twenty percent your likelihood to score points in proves twenty percent from twenty to thirty two. That's why it was a different ball game in the second. Half simple is that oh notre dame in the first half thirty seven yard line average starting field position in the second half the twenty five yard line so they both flipped. That's why it went the way it went. We could stop right there. That's why the first half looked like it did. And that's why the second half looked like it did simple as that. Now notre dame offense i will. I will say this right now. Ian book impressed me. He really did not necessarily throwing the ball. He was not a dominant quarterback. We'll get to the stats in a minute. He impressed me with how he competed how he scrambled. How he kept kept plays alive. I mean the kid. The kid was impressive. No matter what you want to say. He still not an elite thrower. But he's a really really good quarterback. So i'm going to backtrack on it. You know me. i'm honest. I call it like i see it. I mean he started out five or five in the first quarter for seventy one yards and it was just like cooking with grease to be honest both quarterbacks. The first quarter ended both quarterbacks five ten for ten it was just excellent quarterback play but my offensive player of the game is karen williams. And it's not because he had one hundred forty total yards and three touchdowns. It's not because he averaged six point one yards per carry. And it's not that's not what it is. He was phenomenal in pass protection. I mean excellent. Picking up glitters you name it. Thirty one snaps pass blocking. He only allowed one quarterback pressure. It wasn't even a sack. It was just a pressure in total clemson only pressured ian book eleven times and five of those pressures were on ian book holding onto the ball too long so six times clemson got to eat book and pressured him a little bit on forty eight pass place. That is unreal. The office of line was fucking real. They're the best old line in the country and you can't tell me. Ohio state is better. What i watched on saturday confirmed what i said. Preseason they are one. Ohio state is to if they keep developing. They're the best offense in the country and they looked even better than i thought they would. On saturday. i thought clemson might expose them a little bit. I knew they were great but it was simply five grown men dominating the run game solid walls in the past game. Ian book was gifted time. Kyran williams was gifted running lanes and ian book showed me ultimately the ability to win the game. That's huge for a quarterback he didn't dominate through the air passing fifty six percent passing. Completion percentage forty seven percent over ten yards three for eight on date bowl deep balls thirty eight percent not great forty four percent under pressure not great sixty seven percent of his passing yards. Were when clemson blitzed because notre dame picked it up and ian book showed me. He could go win a game at the end. That is that is a huge. He a ninety percent grade on the game and when you talk about how he threw the ball which was pretty average at best to great out at ninety percent showed that on the big stage. He showed up and quieted. All the doubters most specifically yours truly now. He didn't silence me. He quieted me. Because he still didn't throw the ball. Great but ten of twenty on third and fourth down. We just talked about florida georgia fifty percent conversions in a game of this magnitude. An top five matchup unbelievable. That's how they won the game. That's how they stayed in the game. It's how they got to overtime. Not only dominating. At the line of scrimmage but keeping drives alive fifty percent of the time. They kept the drive alive. I will say john mckinley. The big receiver provided a spark offense on the outside. He's a big physical receiver. Who had his way with shared in jones. The corner from clemson eighty-three yards receiving for the six foot. Two two hundred and fifteen pound receiver and he's showed his thirty pound advantage and two two and a half inch height differential in that matchup. It looked like more than that out. City was forty pounds heavier and four inches taller because he was a jump ball possession. Receiver just dominant dominant receiver. Shared a jones was the weakness for the secondary he had the lowest coverage great out of out of the nineteen players who had to cover someone on saturday. He gave up four catches almost one hundred yards. He had a forty four percent grade and coverage. The secretary kind of showed the little weakness against boston. College and now notre dame just exploited him specifically now daily on kendrick is really good player. We knew that he started last year. He was really good last year. He's still a really good player. But shared in jones was the weakness. The other side of the ball was showed some concerning things right when clemson had the ball. First of all only thirteen rushing yards in the first half. they couldn't run the ball and it's been that year that's been the issue all year. They have the best back in the country and they constantly have to throw the ball because they can't run it. They only have thirty four yards on the ground and it's the lowest total they had rushing the ball since twenty eleven against nc state years the lowest. They've had a nine years. The defensive game plan that notre dame employed was very clear. Early on travis at the end was not to beat the irish. They did everything in their power fully selling out to stop the run. He had one point six yards per carry on eighteen carries job well done and dj galet played commendable. He did have a few misthrows to specifically critical third downs. That he missed that. I believe trevor more lawrence makes those throws. I'm not an apologist. I'm not here to say that clemson would've won with trevor lawrence. But trevor i believe would have made those throws what won the game. For notre dame was turnovers and third downs. Clemson was four fifteen twenty seven percent on third down. That's atrocious atrocious. Notre dame created three turnovers. Although i swear. I mean i don't you talk about poetic. How in the world. Amari rogers fumble on the slant route was not ruled. Incomplete pass all while knowing the same thing happened. Probably even worse in the playoff game last year in ohio state fans were livid because i learned last year that that is an incompletion but in this game it was a fumble. But notre dame was disruptive clemson's pass was not great. I mean notre dame ten tackles for loss thirteen quarterback pressures twenty four stops which is a tackle that constitutes loss for the offense. Nine missed tackles total so single digits. They played extremely well. The main issue for clemson was they couldn't get the ball downfield to amari rogers simple as that and they couldn't get travis at the end. You gotta get your to push players the ball. A rogers had one catch over ten yards. And they didn't get travis that the involve past the line of scrimmage. It was always screen game. He had two catches pets. A lot of scrimmage and six behind line of scrimmage. They don't have the talent in the outside receiver position to not use him. Travis as a primary receiver. Past the line of scrimmage they. Don't the screen game was pretty good. But he was a non factor in their biggest game of the year. You can't let that happen. I will say this cornell pal press me. He emerged as a decent option for younger but still was a nonfactor outside the hash marks. He caught all six of his passes. Between the hashes he was too deep balls for one hundred four of his yards and a touchdown which was monumental clemson to hang in this game but a far cry. From the impact at t higgins and justin ross had from two thousand eighteen to twenty one thousand nine. They don't have that presence simple as that and then my game changers of the game. Things that dictated the outcome. The first one was the fifty six yard field goal. Notre dame attendant at the end a half it was short travis at the end catches it. The most dynamic player in the country has the ball with one hundred yards to run and seven of the other teams. Players are fat. Guys how is that. Not a touchdown. He got tackled by. The kicker should never happened a simple cutback. It didn't even wouldn't have even taken effort. Just making miss cutback should have been a touchdown. And then clemson gets the ball in their last offensive possession and only managed to run twenty two seconds off the clock going out of bounds. Just mistake after mistake and notre dame only burn one time out on that last possession and they only ran twenty two seconds off the clock. It's it's an ideal to say the least and in second owed the second overtime. Here's the play that that lost the game. For clemson notre dame had holding a holding call in the second overtime that would have put way behind the chains and after the holding call. They threw the ball and number eighteen. I should've looked up his name. Clemson's defender gets a personal foul on a dumb ass. Bonehead move hitting the kid out of bounds and gifted them a first down game changer. The most impactful dumb ass mistake of the year. They're about to be whatever was second or third and twenty second. It was going to be second and twenty in overtime. Come on man. You got a good enough defense. You're going to win that battle. And then you get the ball and all you've got to get his field goal or or you have the upper hand a bonehead personal foul gives them a first down they end up scoring and then the rest is history. Right clemson manages to not be able to score game over notre dame wins. The red zone was awash. Notre dame was three for six touchdowns in the red zone. Clemson was three for five so both had three touchdowns but we all do know what happens. Now right clemson will beat notre dame and acc championship game with trevor lawrence. Chaos will ensue about notre dame making the cfp and they will have a point or let's look at history. Let's go back seventeen or twenty seven years. Nineteen ninety-three notre dame defeats number one on the final play in south bend. Twenty twenty notre dame to fits defeats number one clemson on the final play in south bend. Nineteen ninety-three notre dame loses to boston college the very next saturday. Twenty twenty notre dame. Plays boston college this saturday. Could it be. Could jeff happily repeat history from twenty seven years ago. Doubt it but could be cool. Go be fun to watch. Maybe the owed the boston college. Eagles will upset the new leader in. Acc what a game that would be but all in all phenomenal football game. I mean just phenomenal mistakes. But not not a ton. Good good offense defense. The line play for notre dame was so impressive ian book. His competitive nature was impressive. Hats off to notre dame. You won a big time game for the first time since i can remember. I don't even know the last big game they won. I mean going all the way. Back to two thousand twelve getting smoked by alabama. They finally won a big game. I know clemson was injury ridden. I know that reality reality. They won this football game in impressive fashion and they are the the ruler in acc anyways. That's forty-three minutes of college. Football content from minnesota sports four free. Thank you for tuning in. i appreciate it. If you wanna hear the buckeye first quarter season update. You have two options. You can check it out. Tuesday or today depend on when you're listening. Tuesday on youtube for slashed menace sports and subscribe turn on notifications. We will have our video out on the buckeye first-quarter season update tomorrow or pay three bucks on patriot dot com slash medicine sports and get full episodes for the month. We are back on it. 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Unsuspecting Friday Orbit: Among Us

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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Unsuspecting Friday Orbit: Among Us

"One running off. Well come back to the ufo. Show dan hildebrand. Is dan rubenstein. This is the solid ball our friday. Ufo show today the unsuspecting friday orbit daniel. Which will explain in a little bit. Sir how are you. I'm pretty good. I showered cleared the mind feeling feeling focused and centered recording the ufo show. And then that's going to be followed by the bruin. A for the patriots subscribers that can be found at for ballers dot com but really feeling quite good. I don't know what it is but because you came up with this fantastic theme for the ufo show because the questions are really inspiring a bunch inside of my brain for the brunei. Hopefully you're who see that. My i have so much excitement that the pop filter keeps moving girl electricity. Okay so yeah quite excited for this recording sash. Don't forget as dan mentioned for ballers dot com if you're interested in checking out our patriot and all the cool stuff. We're doing over there if you want to listen to and watch the brunet you can do so on the patriot. We're drink beer and go places right. Is that what's happening on the bruin a every week. We're drinking beer and going places and what we do. That is what we do. I've got my soliver pint. Class here which i will brandish proudly yeah same on. I'm going to say about the bruin a is it's a it's a a bigger better more open and thorough tie hildenbrand. It's her. I think that's right. Then you get on here okay. That's all i think. That's right Solid verbal dot com is our website. That's where you can subscribe to the show also the newsletter. You can find it out there All the usual hot-spots right twitter. Facebook instagram got youtube channel. Where we post some of the clips. We obviously post larger ones on the on feed. Why don't we jump into news. The last breaking news drop that we did took a little bit out of the voice. Bobo pay he he. Ah what was carole baskin say. Hey cool cats kittens all you cool cats and kittens for breaking news boop boop so i think we've got what is it fifteen more games that have been cancelled or postponed this as per usual. Now it's just kind of the table stakes. We go out there. We do our preview. Show it drops on a wednesday morning at six. Am eastern and we just sort of expect that along the way there will be announcements. There could be some additional announcements before the end of this recording. But here's what we got. Games have been cancelled or postponed. Ole miss at texas am georgia tech at miami charlotte at marshall texas at kansas. Central arkansas at louisiana. We've got wake forest and duke arizona state at colorado houston at smu navy at sell florida. Ohio at miami ohio. Utah state at wyoming. Uab at you. Tap louisiana monroe at louisiana tech unlv at colorado state and recently michigan state at maryland as mike loxley has reportedly tested positive. One of i believe twenty three positive tests in the past week or two so maryland is certainly not in a good spot with regard to positive testing. Not trying to integrate direction. This will much the case a week. Go hopefully there. Aren't more games that are added onto this list because it's already quite lengthy but You know it's only thursday right now at time a recording so there's plenty of time for things ago sideways in few of the other contests doesn't but yeah last week was fifteen. Where at fifteen right now. Correct that is correct. Yeah okay and so. We've got half of thursday and friday and perhaps into saturday for more. Hopefully the number zero moving forward also notable jt daniels. You may remember that name. He transferred over to georgia from usc. He got hurt last year at. Usc couldn't play transferred over. Got immediate eligibility with georgia. We've been waiting for awhile for him to be cleared medically to actually go out there and play on a saturday and clearly. We've talked a lot about steps and bennett. And dewan mathis and the quarterback and more broadly offensive situation at georgia and jamie newman opting out for sure. Jamie newman right. It's been a bit of a revolving door at the quarterback spot for kirby smart. Jt daniels is going to be getting the start. This saturday evening in sanford stadium against mississippi state so this much awaited arrival of jt daniels is set to begin. We'll have to see if he gives them anything more. The quarterback spot. I think he will. I i know you. And i kind of disagree to what extent we should be excited about what we already know of. Jt daniels at usc. But yeah it's i think a good time for georgia to be able to trot somebody else out there because that quarterback spot in particular as definitely been a bit of a pain point over the last couple of weeks. Yeah and i suppose if he looked incredible in practice after the alabama game before by week before kentucky than we probably would have seen him then an incredible physically and incredible in terms of picking up the offense. I imagine it's more physical than the latter with regard to why we haven't seen him yet with some of steps and bennett struggles. There are four games left. Obviously this year does not count eligibility wise to anybody who doesn't want it to count for them so not a you know a red shirt deal like it would be having those four Four game maximum under his belt. So i am I'm hopeful that they georgia has just reached a point where they are ready to c. j. daniels and he has reached a point physically where you know he. He looks good and ready to close out. These these last four regular season games for the dog so hoping to see a little more spark from this dog offense and speaking of the quarterback position our final news tidbit here. Florida state is likely going to start jordan travis at quarterback against clemson and that's because a purdy had season ending surgery dan so it was on his collarbone he broke it during a preseason scrimmage and aggravated during the game this past saturday against nc state He underwent surgery for the original injury and a apparently was always going to need a foul up procedure to remove a plate and some screws but that surgery was obviously expedited. Because of what went down this past week so sucks that he's not going to be out there but You know to some extent. This was at least an expected procedure for him. If he's the future protect your future no point in him. Gutting something out for the rest of florida state season agree. That is all. I have dan. Do you have anything further. He no. I think that's all that's that's worthwhile to talk about. Perhaps we've left something out but there's always online to to talk about it further so i think we move forward with our game. Unsuspecting friday orbits. Are you familiar with the online game among us. Not before today no. I wasn't among us so today's game is based however loosely on the popular online game among us to fun game cost like five bucks. It's gained a lot of popularity in the age of covid where people are trapped inside and play more virtual games and connecting online than ever before in this game. It's one of those deals where you're all in a space capsule spaceship and one in some cases to of your crewmates have been replaced by parasitic shape. Shifter's daniel Of course their goal is to eliminate the rest of the crew before the ship reaches home. The imposter or postures will sabotage the ship. They'll sneak through vents. Ill deceive frame others to remain anonymous and kill off the crew. Very intentionally intentionally morbid dark here we are. That's true. We are playing a modified version of that. Okay how does it go in our version. I'm going to talk about four ships of college. Football coaches coach on each ship is secretly destroying their respective football program. Not necessarily the others on the ship. It's brotherhood this coaching rank. Okay so this is. It's a squadron of ships and we need to figure out which captain is sabotaging his traitorous his trian treasonous subverting the goals of the ship for his own game to some extent. Yeah except it's not so much a crime against the other coaches on the ship. It's really their respective program. You get the terai. We're so we're figuring out which ship is being subverted. Okay we're figuring out who on each ship is secretly destroying. Their football program are okay. So here's the area. Let's go to ship number one here. The crew members on ship number one. You've got jim harbaugh coach of michigan Just in the foo foo coach. Virginia tech dane holger sin of houston and david cut cliff of whoa. Whoa david cut clip of duke. So i need to figure out or we need to figure out which of these four so jim harbaugh as it relates to michigan just in as it relates virginia tech dana harrison as it relates to houston david cliff as it relates to duke who is working against their own team among these four coach. That is correct. Who is most working against their so. It's not jim harbaugh. Trying to murder. Dana holger sin. I don't think they would get along to you weirdly. Yes weirdly like i think it would be. I think the road trip would start out awkwardly and with a little bit of bitterness at the rest stop. but then they'd be singing like Like chris farley in tommy boy with david spade yeah. That's where i think we're going with this. Okay anyway so are are we each weighing or is it just me no. It's a conversation in okay. It's a conversation so here. Here's the lay the land here. The harbaugh thing is well documented in the national media among michigan media. Certainly among the two of us on this show We haven't talked a whole lot about holson and cut cliff. I think cut cliffs a really tough sell here because it's duke and he's the rest modern coach without a doubt best modern duke coach without a doubt the program has stalled it has stalled and if anything has gone a little bit in the wrong direction but still relatively speaking. I don't think it's a situation. Where what cut cliffs doing is actively bringing duke down. So i think that narrows the field to harbaugh for wednesday and dan the makes sense. Yeah they go. What five and seven last year. They're not playing well at the moment. But before that seven. Six eight five to ten win season twenty thirteen nine eight. So they're like these are including bulls. So yeah i could see why you would think it's headed in the wrong direction. But it's still could still duke of the remaining three whose actions as head coach are most actively bringing down their program so. I don't think jim harbaugh is intentional. Like i don't think. I mean i don't think anybody's intentionally really but you know if there is a crime with jim harbaugh. It's a crime of passion. He loves michigan. Football too much to to to let it go to the hands of anybody else. So he's destroying it from within. I don't think it's har-. I don't think it's went to. I think it's all grison. I think the whole redshirt debacle last year. Where after the slow start in the injuries and the transfer like i think that decision and we saw reports of a chasm. I think between dana in the players pretty quickly there were reports. I think from a coupla offensive linemen. I think that would be the move right there. I think if i were to put this game on any of these coaches right now. I have it on dana. Holger sohn that he is a captain without a plan. And that's that's actively working to disrupt the the the well being his ship. How do we feel about so. I agree with you. That holger says probably the answer here. How do we feel about wednesday. We haven't talked a whole lot about virginia tech this year. Because now it's been a weird year there. What four and four now overall for as first season was ten and four overall one coastal on the belt ball seemed like things were going in a good direction. But since then it's been kind of a slow drip nine for the next year second in the coastal lost the ball game twenty six and seven overall third in the coastal lost the ball game last year. Eight and five second in the coastal lost the belt ball. Yup who knows what we make of this year. Who knows where they finish in the acc as a whole right. I mean to some extent we throw all the records out literally the window. Have to twenty. But you know there's a lot of discontent i think in the virginia tech universe because it's tough to follow alleged. It's tough to follow up frank beamer. Who had a ton of success in blacksburg for so long and outside of hand in hooker i. i know. I've compared virginia tech bit to kind of like the northeastern t. c. There's there's kind of that feel of inconsistency and treading water there. He sure it is it fair to even put for wednesday on this ship. Sure with the direction of the defense. Which i think is improving and will improve. But of course keeps bud foster on and so there's the continuity thing and i don't know if it fully became his program until bud foster retired so yes the answer is yes because of the losses the way the spectacular ways in which virginia tech loses that preparation. Those end game adjustments those in game decisions losing by liberty to three point game the lose by miami. It's a one point game The north carolina game was wild. Anyway they came back and then. North carolina had to score a bunch of points other than north carolina game. They're win expectancy was in the positive for the other three losses. They should have beaten wake. They should have been liberty and they should have beaten miami and so the end game element of just day on this list. Actually make some sense all right so our answer then is going to be dana. Holger show dana hall grayson. Yep all morbid. It's just the slow drumbeat of horror. Dana hoeger sohn on ship one. We've got somebody beating the the parasite with a metal scientific instruments. No i think that was the parasite murdering one of the non parasites with some instrument. Wow okay all right. P. clayton to and i guess look. We're all big boys here in a cast for big boys and twenty twenty. It's dark year okay. I don't care what you're into doesn't matter. It's all dark. Okay charles steer into it shipped to gus malzahn from auburn scott frost of nebraska kevin someone arizona and gary patterson of tcu. This is a very tough ship. Very tough to try and figure out dan. Which of these coaches again is either on purpose. I hope not on purpose or yeah not on purpose bringing down their program more than the others any thoughts. I'm not sure. Kevin someone's heart is in it enough to give the effort to thoroughly take down arizona. That's a guess from afar. I don't know you have to be motivated. Parasite right have to have some motivation here. The interesting question to me is not which of these coaches is actively trying to subvert their program and is that militaristic murderous parasite from within. But these coaches. Gus malzahn scott frost. Gary patterson is doing the most damage to the mental health and wellbeing of their team's fan bases. Okay this look. This is opened my vacation open to interpretation. Then that's where. I'd like to go to accuse somebody of mutinous behavior is that's heavy even for twenty twenty even even if it's by accident that's true right like we're just talking about not people who wish to do harm to their programs with people who are doing harm without knowing it so between gary patterson and the almost no offensive evolution in momentum. Forward these past few years. Scott frost who with now years and years into his tenure. What we're three years. And now and doesn't seem all that different and ways that they've lost. Nebraska have been both spectacular and heartbreaking. Because it's been the last second and also just not competitive at all And then gus malzahn just anytime you think auburn's really good. They just look awful and vice versa. I'm going to say gus malzahn. I'm going to say gusts because the hope that auburn gives its fan base at multiple times. These past few years iron bowl wins. Nfl draft picks recruiting classes there on a level that nebraska. And tcu are. Not so. i'm going to say what gus malzahn has done. In weaponising hope is ultimately ultimately the most violent emotional harm. Anybody has done to a fan base of these three coaches. I think thousands got the answer. I think it's i think it's it's gotta be the answer when i look at these four. I said it's gotta be on. I don't know how like you can't blame. Scott frost scott frost starting from a different point and I do believe that if given enough time he can build it up but it it's gonna take some time it's gonna take some time. Kevin someone walk kevin. Someone does not feel all that different to me at arizona. Then he did at a and better players am right hired some of the same assistance. Some of the same assistance now feels basically like the exact same like outcome here. And so if that's not long for tucson that would compute for me. But i just think it is who he is. He's not doing anything different. And you signed up for it. It is new getting the gary patterson angles interesting patterson if you've seen him on any of the espn film room broadcasts during the national championship is easily a football savant. He's fallen he dominates him. He doesn't shut up but he knows what he's talking about. Music great watch yeah. It's a great watch if anything. He's he's a little intimidating just as a football presence when he's on those broadcasts sedan much but it does feel like we've gotten to a point with t. c. you where perhaps that virginia tax slash. Tcu comparison holds because there is a. There's a treading water type of feel to this program especially on offense especially on offense. Max dougan has been a bit of a revelation. It's just been kind of disappointing that they haven't really been able to build up a whole lot around him. Defense is solid but you do have to wonder a little bit. If there's some sort of stubbornness or some sort equality there that is preventing them from getting to the next level offensively. Even though presumably they've they've tried to get the band back together on offense right with their hiring and they're trying to really get this thing going. It just hasn't quite materialized. So i think you could make a case for patterson but i think the malzahn answer is just too compelling especially if you wanna frame it as someone who's trying to do harm to fan pace either intentionally or not the the whole will. They won't. They complex of auburn being good year in and year out is frustrating for us. Frankly as like podcast hosts not even sherbourne fans per se so Eventually one of these days that ride will be over for malzahn. It will probably be when you least expect it. Because he's been here before. I know we've talked about it at nauseam about this is going to be at for malzahn and it doesn't seem like it ever is so one of these days it'll will catch up to him. It just hasn't yet and probably won't twenty twenty. Yeah i think that. The patterson thing is more just. The ship needs repairs. We engineers to look at the thrusters. What should we do is like. I got it. I know what's going on here. And he's not very good at diagnosing offensive issues and finding the engineers and mechanics to diagnose everything on the ship. And that's that's the problem our answer here. Then gus malzahn right. Gus malzahn absolutely asked weaponising. It's dark that's quite the sound effect. Isn't it really cuts cuts pretty tight ship. It number three Klay hilton usc. David shaw stanford mike leach new hire at mississippi state cher dave doran at nc state so we go number of different directions here but who's doing harm to their program without knowing it who is doing harm to the fan base without knowing it. Maybe without trying. There are a couple names on this list. That i think are are compelling so the mike leach one i think is somewhat obvious because whenever leeches at a place for an extended period of time it seems he wears out his welcome whereas welcome happened at texas terror. Obviously attack happened to bid at zoo. The early going in starkville has not been great but no to sail the early early going with amazing the early going the first week. Yeah incredible but since then left a little bit that'd be desired. Just got awful. Yeah the clay. The answer i think is is one that look if you read the description for the show. If you've listened to the first two ships he knew klay help is coming. We're going to talk more about klay. hilton right. Let's talk about david shaw though. Let's talk about david. Shaw stanford has very notably taken a step back in very notably taking a step back. Is that because of shaw. Is that because of talent is because shaw not getting the right talent or the right coaches what what is going on at stanford. How much of that do we place on. Shaw a bunch of transfers this year. A bunch of seniors transferred out. I think because they didn't get into grad school at stanford. I think things shifted in the way that admissions worked there so their depth has taken a hit. They've missed on a couple. Quarterbacks basically since kevin hogan and well regarded highly recruited quarterbacks four or five star guys and defensively. The talent hasn't been there like it was seven nine years ago. They have you know this linebackers good or this corners. Really good or this is good. There's nfl level talent on that defense. But it just the depth isn't there and so that's recruiting that's evaluation that's development. That is assistant hires. And so i think. David shaw sorta falls under the the gary patterson element to me where okay still is. Well regarded for good reason. Everybody likes david shaw. He's smarts He is he's thoughtful. He has by and large succeeded at a place. That's pretty difficult to succeed at in stanford as a school as it is as great location weather wise and everything like that as stanford. It's tough it's tough to attract assistance cost of living super high. I get it. But i don't think he is. Don't think he has that switch where what he's doing is so actively working against the program. I wish he would be a little bit more aggressive on offense with playcalling and you're still a far far too conservative for me. In what stanford needs dave door. Nc states having a nice enough year a nice enough bounceback year. I don't love their staff and especially on the offensive side. you know. Hiring is never an excitement for me but has nc state lost to anybody. They shouldn't have this year like given the depths where the wolfpack were last year. I guess maybe you can argue pit with some of the lows of pip. But they lost. Kenny pickett i believe and they lost by a point on the road. They beat virginia. They beat duke. They lose to north carolina. Which fine you give up. Fifty north carolina. A lot of teams are north carolina's better than nc state. I know and see state was at a much better point three four five years ago but even still they had a really an incredible shot to beat miami. They just beat florida state. In retrospect over wake forest looks better than perhaps it did early on. And yes you lose to virginia tech. That's fine. We're talking about losses till at top thirty top forty schools. Nc state is squarely an average to may be above average team in the acc. Yeah and dave dorn for as a saboteur in this situation guess what had he not gotten hurt devon leary probably would have been their their their star quarterback this year he had probably miami. Yeah a pretty impressive. Showing hochman been fine. The early going but hockman has been fine. Yeah he has been fine. So i agree with you. I don't think it's dave doran. I don't think it's david shaw. But let's talk about klay hilton. Klay halton if you go on out to any website that tries to track coaches on the hot seat. You're gonna find clay helton if not at number one at least in the top. Three top five. He just has to be there. Because usc is never void of talent. They've got it there in a fertile part of the country when it comes to recruiting sort of recruits itself. And at least in the early going. I think so. You know better than me. But they've never had trouble getting football players. Go to usc didn't recruit. It took a year off of recruiting itself. Yeah coronado island. It's it's a wonder that we're in twenty twenty talking about klay hilton. This is another guy who was reportedly getting fired a handful of times. It still hasn't don't if it's going happen in two thousand twenty given the climate but it does not feel like he has long for usc. The question i guess would be. Usc twelfth out of twelve in the class of two thousand twenty in the pack twelve twelfth twelve comments to blue chips out of those twelve. The question that i have is is clay helton doing anything more wrong than any of his predecessors like is he worse than the last guy is he doing something that is actively drag this program. I think the anger among usc fans we're gonna look at the fan. Base is more with the administration. Like i don't think people fault. Usc for making the decision to higher clay helton given the success. He had as an interim coach but given the extension. I believe after the rose bowl. Maybe that's wrong. But i'm going to put it out in the universe anyway. I'll look it up as i'm talking and the opportunity. Replace him with somebody. That fans felt would do a better job at usc and the administration not doing that. Be it for financial or otherwise reasons. I don't hold it against clay helton. I think it's more of the like remember somebody tweeting. Cj mccollum to like win win a playoff series before you can talk or something like that right and cj mccollum tweeted back. I mean we love. cj mccollum. He's lehigh right. Yup i'm trying jennifer. I feel like klay hilton is squarely in the. I'm trying jennifer mode. He really is trying. He's just the the clay helton ship doesn't have the thrusters it. It just doesn't so. I'm gonna go with lee chair. I think i'm gonna go with. Yeah the arrogance of leech. The public behavior of leech the sort of self awareness about the mike leach brand above all else about him the disconnect with the mississippi state culture upon arriving in starkville. I'm going to go leach here. don't hold back man. Tell us what you really think. Yeah yeah i think that's an easy one. i think it is too because doren shaw. You see. players just full-on bailing. I'm done full. I'm bailing. Yeah doren. Shaw and hilton are all trying their best. They're trying their best. And you know. I think in at least two those cases. It's tough place to win the clay helton thing that has been taken on water for a while not to mix our metaphors here being in outer space and all. But you know that's not necessarily news. The leash thing came in and caught a lot of people by surprise when he took that job and obviously caught the sec. By surprise with k j castillo throwing for a record amount of yardage in one and things have really gone sideways. Do hear a giant mower outside. It's that time of the week again. Isn't it that time of the week tied. Absolutely i was. I was so hopeful. I'm ready with song to essentially celebrate. You saying klay hilton. A nice guy. Everybody says claims a nice guy. And you didn't do it now. And i'm so upset because i was ready with a song. Well the thing is dan about klay held on. Everybody says only nice guy you know so we didn't do a fantasy of thing because it's you you you control a fantasy thing about klay health and isn't that it's true all right. Yeah i was ready. Leeches are here. Get the sound of our system have to do. Oh my god it's gonna haunt your dreams brutal the last ship this is. I think the hardest. Tom hermano tom her. I immediately selected. Somebody chip kelly at ucla. Jeremy pruitt at tennessee and dino abors at syracuse dan. I don't think there's an obvious answer here again. Who is either knowingly or unknowingly bringing their own program down knowingly or unknowingly putting their fan base through undo anguish. Who who is your eye drawn to hear. Charles chip kelly really. Why yeah the recruiting thing re. Ucla is not a difficult place to recruit to. Yes there are academic standards but they have long recruited very very well in southern california. I like to make the argument. Though that some southern california talent is wildly overrated for whatever reason just because everybody wants southern california players to be really good where the culture of high school football isn't necessarily robust enough to produce as much blue chip talent as people perceive it to produce. I think what tom. Herman has attempted to do. Is hires have not always been on point you. We've talked about back meyer syndrome. I i think he is turning over. Every rock i think he really is trying think his actions point to something. So egregious wrong. It doesn't look like it's fully working out that the his decisions haven't worked out. Same with jeremy pruitt. Although the recruiting is there some of the improvement is obvious some of it and just look at twenty twenty s hobbyists but near the defense. Isn't the problem in tennessee. Largely they've got guys on defense. They recruited the offensive line. Pretty well dino babar's that's just a tough job. He did a good job with the players he inherited. I mean the quarterback injuries have been brutal. The offensive line. Injuries have been brutal. And you know. I don't know if there's a reason that we can point to so many injuries and so much dumb luck with syracuse. But i don't think it's babies. I think he's a totally good coach. I don't know if he's worth having a conversation about as an upper power five level candidate like he has been these past couple of years. But i think he's fine chip though with the recruiting. He's done at ucla. I i'm a huge fan of building. Hope around a guy who is on his way down and like it or not the reality is you go up to philly. Then things go downhill at in philly. Go to san francisco. It was just not gonna work out in san francisco. He's only there for a year the ownership and he apparently didn't get along and so he takes a year off and was like well. I like the west coast. Ucla as you can. You can bring talent there in the pac. Twelve is pretty winnable and i think he is. It appears to be and listen. Nobody loves the heights. Charles chip kelly. More than i but his tenure at ucla points to. I don't know if it's arrogance. I don't know if it's just a a stubbornness of like this is how i succeeded at oregon. This hi will succeed at ucla and to not recruit on a level fitting of the bruins and expecting to To outperform the talent you bring in. I don't know it. It just strikes me as working against the program and working against the ceiling of the program which jim mora was totally good coach at his best. Ucla was a competitive team. Ucla filled it some. You know some years. It was an incredible defense. Some years it was i remember those paul perkins offenses brett. Hundley i just. Ucla should always be an eight. Ish win caliber team. And they're just not and they. They haven't looked anywhere near it years years. Now into chip. Kelly's tenure there counterpoint counterpoint. Tom herman okay. Give me answer for herman. I don't know if i have any answers on the ship. I don't know if any of them are well. If you're firing to coordinators the same year that's on you that you hired coordinators. That were not were both not working out and both not taking the program in a direction That matches your vision. If you truly want to pivot and talk about the effect on fan base. The herman angle is interesting to me. You know like i think. If you look at there's not really a fan base angle there with syracuse. There are syracuse people who listen to this show but the texas fan base is much more notable. The jeremy pruitt angle is interesting. I think there's a recognition among the vol's base that There's deficiency at quarterback that they need to solve they haven't yet but it does feel like the talent has gotten better in the team as a whole depth and whatnot is. It's getting their chip kelly. Ucla that fan base. You could tell me probably better than anyone about the ucla fan base. I don't know if it's quite as hungry for national championship or even a nine win season as they are in texas. I think they're hungry for competence. That's at this point. Yeah the tom herman thing. Though like the whole is texas back question. It is of course a stupid joke at this point and gray overplayed but to your point about ucla like they should at least be a eight win program should at least be competent court. Assigns in a time where usc is down. It does feel like texas should begin a lot more out of this program and it's felt that way for a while but think of the hype that followed tom. Herman to university of texas. At austin. sure it'd be that lsu formula. Yeah and there's no doubt there's no doubt in my mind that he has gotten them up for big games. He's a big game coach. Tom harmon and he's been on this show we love. Tom hermit the smart dude. He's a good coach. He's a nice guy but it feels to me like there's there's a lot of meat left on that bone and if you're a texas fan if you're watching this team week in week out if you are feeling like the talent is there to try and is better and potentially win the big twelve. Get a chance into that playoff. Like i understand coming away very unsatisfied and a bit aggravated by that. Even if he generally like tom. Herman so i think there is a case to be made for him over chip kelly. Because i know that the fan base is just. It has much higher expectations. Let's say than they do at ucla. Well here's the other thing with texas right there near four now. This is a very different year for everybody i. It's not an excuse but it's just a reality right. It's different for everybody. Penn state in a normal year probably doesn't look like this right michigan in normally. You're probably doesn't look like this now. It speaks to their ability to push through adversity and obstacles. And things like that and it's not a great look for schools like that. There's just i don't know if you have friends like this old wife. Kate has friends like this. Where there's just there's always something like. Hey do you wanna meet up for lunch and like well. Yes there's always something. There's always something texas playing against texas tech a pretty flawed team in year. Two of a new coach sixty three to fifty six last year. You're playing against the kansas team. An awful awful kansas team and they fired their offense coordinator they make an analyst their new coordinator i believe that was the order of succession and they sixty two fifty nine fifty nine fifty seven. The oklahoma game goes jillian overtime and they lose so like they're giving people hope that they're on oklahoma's level and They play oklahoma. State may terrible but they win a clunker against a good team really have the ability to win our. There's always something. It's always something with texas. And i know if it's recruiting thing. I don't know if it's a culture thing. I don't if it's coordinator and assistant a malays a game. Planning a treating their five star players like celebrities. Whatever it is always something. Texas can't just go ten to and beat everybody they should and maybe everybody they should comfortably and lose two teams that are slightly better can do it always something tie. That's the case for tom. Herman to me in year four. He doesn't have them at least to that point where they're just outclassed but they beat everybody they should i think. I think the answer is still chip kelly okay. My case is more convincing their that in in terms of this game in terms of this game i think the answer is still chip kelly. But this is hard for me. This is a tough one for me. i i really wavered between herman kelly but we'll go still don't fully understand. The game is going going from gut here if we put chip kelly mike leach. Gus malzahn and dana on the ship. Who is who is the chief among all my god. Those champions league parasite yeah so who is sabotaging who's subverting. Oh man from a leadership position. We're asking who either voluntarily or involuntarily is doing the most harm the program that they are at how or with your new twist put the fan base through anguish. So hard about that. Yeah i i mean gusts still. He's still doing more good than the others right. Dana at houston. Mike lee to mississippi state chip kelly at ucla. Us far more. Good for auburn. He's taken them to what A national championship. He's taking his one the sec. He's beaten alabama multiple times. He had was the coach of the most memorable play in recent than modern college football history and the kick sex the offensive coordinator on the camp team. So there's goodwill they gotta be leash right. I think it's late. It's gotta be leach because he's just getting started. He's just getting started. Oh which we have seen coaches wait for us plant. Oh god goes through you. We've seen coaches star off disastrously as they tried to shift the direction of a program perhaps schematically culturally whatever so. It wouldn't surprise if as mike leach got more of his own guys made you know shifts with the assistance or whatever that mississippi state become a threat in the sec. Your one was always rocky. All anybody predicted to this extent. But it's a tough year one for anybody given the circumstances and it's called ride to a wild ride after that week. One experience to kind of end out that thing too though. Yeah i mean. We've we've reevaluated. Lsu is as a as a team and as a program right now. So let's see texas tech his first year and they were in a better place i believe when he took over in two thousand seven six Washington state absolutely in the dumps. They go three and nine one and eight in the then. Pac twelve was packed hall by twenty twelve. That was the first year. I believe of it. one in these are pac twelve records so he's almost in a bell curve like parasitic place. One eight four and five two and seven spacious but showing some some feist some improvement six three seven into six and three seven and two holy. Hell what a stretch twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen. Twenty nineteen three and six so you know bringing in jc quarterback after jc quarterback. With what anthony gordon. And who's the quarterback for the jaguars. Now that was their nash garbage. Do yeah yeah. So that's never a great sign where you're not developing quarterbacks and you're relying on j. c. guys year after year and so yeah starting out it could be the bottom of the bell curve but it feels like there's going to be a curve mississippi state one way or the other. It's just one more time. Just really drive home. Oh which of these teams okay. So let's stick with my slight pivot so of all these. What sixteen teams. Yup do you think is the absolute worst fan experience in terms of. I'm a fan of ex team. And they do nothing but haunt my dreams whether it's giving me hope and then tearing it down or just beating me down to such an emotional low point that i no longer can feel things. And it's got to be nebraska. You think scott. The scott frost relationship to nebraska fans. I don't most brutal i'm not. I'm not even counting scott frost in that equation. I'm just saying that. The combination of and we see with like notre dame a good example. Right now a traditional blueblood tell a lot of success over the years the game to some extent has kind of moved at a faster pace than the institution could keep up with. And for a long time with notre dame. It was the same deal where the expectations did not change. But the game around the program did but now that they've admitted that their independence is no longer a defining factor of their program. Well they've taken steps forty of closed the gap. They've closed the gap and they've taken the you're right they've taken great steps forward and nebraska to me. Feels like they are in that. They're kind of trapped in that limbo state where the expectations are still there. Maybe not quite to the same extent as they were at notre dame but they're still there and the program is constantly trying to figure out ways to play catch up and a lot of that pressure now is on scott frost to deliver. I hope he gets time to do so. Because i believe he is the right guy for the job. If given the opportunity given enough time to. But i can imagine being a fan of that program and just kind of constantly wondering. When is it going to happen. When is it going to happen. Is this year that we see some progress that we can build on to take that next step to get there so for me. I think it's the brassica. You can make a case for virginia tech as well. I don't know if expectations at tech are are ever going to be as high as they would be at. A place like a nebraska. Virginia tech hasn't been that good in a long time. It's been a while right. It's been a long time. Yeah so you could make the case. But i think it's to a much lesser degree. Okay so the the coaches who have teased. Though that have teased their fan bases with recent enough success. See have tom herman in the sugar bowl with texas right. They're like oh. My god ascended to this level. Where a new year six program. We'd beat this blueblood and georgia fellow blueblood in georgia and we have turned a corner it seems like since that moment it has been nothing but pain as a texas fan though. They did make what the big twelve championship game like. They're you know they're they're performing well enough at times. But they're lows are so even their wins in those lows always something factor as brutal as a fanti. You know this. I would say the gus malzahn experience has been trying for sure really really trying. I think it's probably worse to be a tcu fan than an auburn fan. Considering that tcu was right there on the edge of the playoff they win the rosebowl. Twenty twenty ten there that mazing. I think two thousand fourteen season with trevan boykin. And they're right there they lose sixty one fifty eight to baylor that changes the calculus of everything. Then there's just this hunt to recapture right that these this failed dog the bounty hunter character. In fort worth that they're always hunting to recapture and that is maddening to me that they were so crazy razor-thin close to to symbolically making that leap whereas the nebraska experience was always. I mean it was fine during the bow. Paulina volatile during bo pollini. But i don't think scott. Frost has done anything other than be outside expectations to do too much harm. It's been rough. it's rough. don't get me wrong. it's definitely rough arizona. I don't think qualifies. Us's tough because they had that blip with the rose bowl the 2017 team. Sam darnold but they've largely not been consistently good for over a decade a lane kiffin season and that sort of nc state. I don't think qualifies air. They're down but they don't qualify. Ucla doesn't qualify tennessee. Experience interested in tennessee. Experience has been it has to have been awful I don't know that they've had the hope i mean. They've had the off season hope but they haven't had the in season winning hope having don't all the sudden trounce florida beat alabama and like okay. We've broken through. And then that have them have it ripped from them. So i think they're close to being in that category but i think it's more texas in michigan. Yeah i think i'm with you. Dan i really do. I think it's sexist michigan. Maybe a dash of tcu a dash of powdered frog. I hear you. I still think go nebraska cut. I hear you isn't a brass carr's best recent win the loss to ohio state. Two years ago in might be like. Hey look i mean if you look at any article like longer article about nebraska's offense and asia martinez who was just bench. It's man look at look. At that spark. He had that that stretch of games in the back. Half of two thousand eighteen really gave ohio state everything they could handle the best recent win weird game today dan. I loved it. I loved every second. Thank you weigh in solid verbal at g. 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Hour 3: Lauren Sisler, Matt Stinchcomb, John Talty

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Hour 3: Lauren Sisler, Matt Stinchcomb, John Talty

"They even though fans can attend this year's masters. The tournament is using the flexibility of a hybrid cloud to scale their capabilities. Now everyone can be a patron learn more at ibm dot com slash monsters fried passion and patron torri of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum. Show our three podcast. Busy second half the program. I had and we begin in columbia missouri where missouri will be hosting georgia an opportunity for missouri. Keep on after a pulsating win. Last week over arkansas lauren sis or is there. We had laura couple of weeks to talk about. I think it was vanderbilt georgia. She ended up getting there as the game was cancelled. But lauren looks like this game is on how are you. Yeah it feels good to be here in columbia missouri with the game right ahead of us less than twenty four hours from now no word or no indication that this is going to be cancelled so ready to roll of course. The weather's a little icky outside right. Now it's raining. it's going to be cold. There was some discussion about there being snow in the forecast which got some people excited me included but it looks like things will probably be pretty clear tomorrow just very very gold and i think before the season when you look at the schedule and saw that georgia was going to missouri. You you new georgia would be a highly regarded team. I don't think anyone predicted this would be a battle of of top twenty five teams. I mean that's that might be one of the more surprising elements of the season in the sec. Yeah when you look at the slate of games this weekend across the board and really with a lot of cancer of course this game is definitely a highlight. Definitely really excited for this one. I think these two teams match up. Well when you look at the offensive side of the football for georgia and missouri both two quarterbacks that are really coming into their own. Two weeks ago i got to watch. Jt daniels make his first start when they played mississippi state he's really improved a lot even in just the last two weeks being able to get that mobility being more comfortable in the offense and really. That's one thing he talked about todd monk and has really given him i guess control of the offense and what todd mahnken burns the table in this. This offensive scheme really works well for and the communication is there. He's able to control the offense he feels like he's able to facilitate things get it to his playmakers and then on the other side you've got missouri. Connor lack certainly a great quarterback. A redshirt freshman had the acl injury a year ago as well just like jt daniels and is really starting to emerge and we saw that in the arkansas game. What they were able to do. Obviously offensively came down to the wire. There was a lot of confidence in that one thing. That really kind of stood out to me is the confidence level. We were talking to coach. Walter's the defensive coordinator and he said that there were so much confidence when there was forty six. Forty six seconds left on the clock in arkansas game that they felt very confident that they were going to be able to drive down the field. Get it in field goal range and get the field goal kick to win that football game in laren i mean. I don't think we can say enough about missouri coach drinkers. Don't we talk to a connor. The other day and story is just so so fantastic. But what is your sense of this program right now in terms of what's ahead because i mean it was not in good shape and it wasn't necessarily the fault of berry odem but the ncw investigation a couple of years ago. wreaked havoc. The numbers were low. Still are really interested in your view of this program right now. Yeah you know. I think missouri is really trying to turn the page and certainly electric goods coming in and being able to set the standard. He's setting a standard in a culture. That really hasn't been in place for a couple of years and again to your point. I don't think it is the fault of very odem but really what he had to do was come in and really not apologize for the standard setting and basically say in order to get a championship culture. Here we've got to act like champions. We've got to be champions before actually champions and so that's sort of the mindset coming in and i feel that. There is a lot of competence around that that people are bought in the players. The coaching staff and really the community around missouri. The entire state of missouri is bought into that. I think early on there might have been some speculation. Just some concerns that maybe he's not going to get the job done and at the end of the day. I think that it's showing now on paper. And obviously what he's doing inside the locker room. Yeah they've had opt-outs just like every other team in the country i think now they're up to nine opt-outs but in his mind he says you know what if you're not in you don't wanna play. You can go somewhere else and find that success. We're gonna do us here. And that's really been the mindset and i really think that they're trending in the right direction right now and finally laura one end on georgia. I'm struggling to find the right words to describe this. George season ranked number nine in the country and it just feels like a law. Season for caribbean smart. Because of the two big games that they let go i mean obviously alabama. Everyone's lost alabama and now like many had beaten florida florida. Either you think that's just what kirby's mar has to live with every day being one of the top coaches and having one of the top programs in america well you point that out and i actually heard you talking to cole cubelic earlier about the auburn football program and sort of what they deal with in the state of alabama going up against nick sabin and the crimson tide and. I think georgia faces some of that. Same thing. Really just competing in the sec. What they're having to go up against you know obviously as you said the two big losses but in the minds of the committee they have them in the top ten still. And you know. Certainly feel like they're deserving of that ranking going into this last game or last two games of the season they'll make their game against vanderbilt next week. But you know. I definitely think there is some disappointment there because it seems like all the pieces coming in. We're in place. We talked to the coaching staff. A couple of weeks ago. There was so much optimism before they even took the first half of the season that this offense was the offense that was going to get it done that they had all the right pieces in place and then defensively georgia comes back year in and year out. They've got identity on defense that really they weren't able to live up to and it really showed up. They were able to expose those weaknesses in that forty game. And that's something that i think is plagued them and certainly been that something that they've really tried to refocus on these last couple of weeks because they deathly gave up some big explosive plays in just could not get the job done. They didn't have a good performance. Good showing against alabama. The same happened against florida now. They're trying to kind of crawl out of this hole and really again sort of a day late dollar short and not being able to be considered once again for the college football playoff and now you know hoping for You know a big bowl at the end of the season lawrence. This are always great to see you even through the magic of television Can't wait to see you in person. Miss miss our saturday morning chats about the world. I know i miss you. Paul always good to chat with you in optimistic about that lauren. Thank you very much for joining us. Live for columbia. I don't care what anybody says. We're gonna end this nonsense here soon. Let's get to more calls in a moment at eight. Five five two four two seven two eight five as well as more guests as well matched He's got a big win. The mara national We'll be the site of tennessee vanderbilt. And we'll talk about that with him in a minute. 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Adorable kits visit a. L. l. y. Dot com slash savings to learn more ally bank member. Fdic always great to welcome it matched to the grim here and he'll be on the call tamar for tennessee and vanderbilt and matt seems like we've talked about tennessee a few times this year and i'm really interested in your view of them and Especially you know trying to shalva season with vanderbilt tomorrow. Am the next week. The schedules obviously been rearranged a little bit. Where are they right now. Bad spot Lots of season in a game vs vanderbilt non place you want to be. If you're tennessee. Football program your rewind all the way to the beginning of the season writing that winning streak and then getting a victory vs south carolina and then going on the road and putting it on missouri. I mean running the football right down their throat to the point where i think it changed. Who missouri was defensively. Going forward made him a better football team kind of steeled their resolve not to have that happen again because tennessee almost two hundred forty seven rushing yards on them in that football game. It's been the same sense. I will have to say that most people. I think observing the program even outside of the quarterback position and the circumstances that all teams have found themselves in this year. This has been really disappointing year for tennessee football. They've got two more shots at. It is a very short handed vanderbilt. Football program could get on the field georgia. It'll be interesting to see if tennessee can put together a convincing performance versus their in state conference member i. i wouldn't even call it. A rival per se for tennessee's perspective although Tennessee vanderbilt had some success versus the balls in recent years. Easy man on talk shows to blame coaches but there is obviously more to it. But as you look at jeremy pruitt and his staff. I'm curious how you would evaluate or analyze some of the decisions especially at quarterback because a lot of people feel like jeremy was was really slow to make a change. Yeah quarterbacks been an interesting adventure for tennessee to say. The least. I mean even last time out versus the florida gators harrison bailey. Obviously getting out there and then comes out of the game briefly. Brian our goes in but then. Jt shrout finishes finishes the game. We haven't seen a lot of either one of those guys. Jt shroud got in earlier. In the season jarod guarantee no Start out rough to say the least versus kentucky and what ended up being a blowout loss at the hands of the wildcats at home. Jt shrout through pass for an interception in that one football game and then to see him late last week and had some success in two series versus the florida gators. But it's it's been kind of all over the place at the quarterback position and largely been that way for two seasons. Really paul when you think about the way. They had to manage the quarterback position last year. And i would argue masterfully. Really given where. Jerry guarantee no been mentally after the gulf called. Qb sneak versus alabama. When tennessee was still very much in that football game ends up going the other direction the idea that they were able to still salvage the back. End of that season was was really impressive from a coaching standpoint. This season the quarterback position has remained an issue to say the least and the lack of consistency and even in the past couple of weeks in harrisonburg getting his first start versus florida a week ago. It's still not a known commodity. We'll talk to tennessee later on today. We've not visited with him yet to find out what exactly can expect to get their quarterback tomorrow versus the commodores one program with a six game losing streak the other with a nine game. I mean i guess there is only. There is some light at the end of the tunnel. That one team has to win. But i mean this. This is a mess. Matt i realize this late in the year and it's a stranger at that but on the other side of vanderbilt. We all know the story pretty well. The coaching change the future unknown. Give us give us your assessment of of where they are right now with with a chance to at least be tennessee. That would that would be big. It'd be huge And it's still going to be an uphill climb. I mean you look at their roster. There's no way they've got fifty scholarship players available in this football game. They're choosing to play the game. It's admirable because vanderbilt different. I think it's well documented that they're different from any of the other member institutions southeastern eastern conference but none more so than in the area of roster roster management in a year where everyone is incredibly lean. This point in time memorable would be lean anyway. Even in regular circumstances they don't have a ton of walk on. There's not a lot of kids lining up to pay that tuition to pay full freight and have that academic rigor. Oh and by the way all week you get a practice. Football games probably never see the field and likely watch. Your teammates get beat down. It's just something that a lot of people are signing up for. They don't have a lot of bodies they don't have a lot of kids to even be able to practice. So it's admirable the vanderbilt's even able to take the field tomorrow. I'll little bit hesitant to say the least. We had them last week in a would be game vs. Georgia got cancelled at noon on friday. It does appear that this game's going to get. Its admirable just enough that the commodores are going to be able to take. The field. Looked like they were turning a corner. Looked like they were going to play better. Football down the stretch. Mississippi state had an opportunity to win. Were undone by turnovers. Still a young quarterback and true freshman kin seals but there last time out versus missouri was a discouraging performance to say the least in. It'll be interesting to see what they're able to cobble together with the personnel. They have available. And what could be their final game of the season if they're not able to get back out there versus georgia we from them. What is the sarah fuller situation for. Tomorrow's best you know as we understand it She will be kicking in football game. We think extra points. is probably the likelihood of win. We will expect to see her in the contest tomorrow but she is available for place kicking duties and it seems as if the point after attempt is the most likelihood most area of likelihood that we could see on the field of play tomorrow. You know there's so much conversation about that. And and i think most reasonable people smiled and we're happy and and celebrated it but you know we both grew up in the south and there are certainly narrow views of what happened. I'm curious just to somebody who played this game at the highest level is also reasonable your thoughts on when it happened. And what you'll see you tomorrow. Yeah you know as a father of daughters the whole thing. The more opportunities The better in that regard. I will say that circumstances in many ways. I don't wanna say forced but created the opportunity for this to have happened in credit sarah fuller for wanting to take advantage of that. I do think that you know the attention that it still garnering. The fact that things have seemingly settled down around the fact that there's a female kicker in a power five game is only help not only her ability to contribute with that football team but the team in general because as we know it is unique and can be a distinct distraction in some ways. A positive distraction but distraction nonetheless and from what we gather and it makes sense that because some time has passed. And maybe perhaps because vanderbilt didn't take the field last week vs georgia. The things have kind of settled down and interestingly and rather quickly surf or has assimilated into that football team and program not an easy thing to do late in the year But i think that speaks to some of the positive elements of this as much as anything else squib make a field goal point after was the fact that she is seemingly a member of the football team and not a novelty. I think that's really where the progress would ultimately be made the fact that so much attention has been garnered around it. That's fine for the first time but if progress is actually being made and if we're opening up our eyes and broadening our rises and just playing the best potential players in these capacities then at some point in time it shouldn't be a novelty to just be something that should be expected. We're not there yet. That's not the case but we're closer this week than we were two weeks ago when she first took the field versus missouri match them on the call tomorrow matt. Thank you as always. We will talk to you next week. Always a pleasure baseball great stuff for matt. We are going to take a break. I know i promise phone calls. We will eventually get to them. We still have a lot to do. We have general balls in the final hour talking about the army navy. Chris doering on the weekend ahead and a look at what's going on currently in college football including the espn deal with the sec. John tardy from al dot com will join us next at once app. That's dan sing running with elite. Qb's wrestled at the kennedy td's across nova step behind no need to watch the clock at thirty thirty two single. Push us bruce lee showing no mercy factfile got the crew on deck knows g. No one knows goes deeper as the espn app download. Now you're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back and always great to have our next guest. John taught nobody more plugged in to the sec. What's happening at various campuses or in downtown birmingham. The sec office than john gotti l. dot com. We'll talk about the big news of yesterday in a few minutes at john has written quite skillfully about but but john i want to start with a couple of items that you mentioned in your column from the week. I'm and get to auburn in a minute. Where things are always cooking. But but you you talked about lsu another tumultuous week for the tigers and they go to gainesville and then the university announces the. I'll try to get through this with a straight face helped me please That it is self imposing a bowl ban on the school on a team that very likely will will do no better than five hundred and could do worse you almost have to respect how brazen as paul i mean that's such a laughable move to enforce a bowl ban win a i mean as you pointed out record is very good and given all the challenges. They've had between claire issues. It's hard for me to imagine that what you wanna play a full anyway. So you had an opportunity earlier. In the year to enforce a bowl ban allen had gone back and forth the. Ncaa didn't wanna do it. Dan so waiting to do it now. I can just see with. They're trying to do. And so maybe it works. But i don't believe the. Ncaa is incapable of critical thinking. They'll see see through. That moved there but certainly their challenges in place unless you right now on the other day. A great story looking at that situation. There's just a lot of challenges already really one of the teams that you look back on. It's hard to a mac. Torture really remember team struggling as much as osu has now with all the issues that come with that coming off the national championship. the year. Before i was reading your column the other day. John and you talk about people within the industry insiders people that you talk every day in talking about the future that owes run and i did a double take and i. I'm not naive. I feel like you know me pretty well but it still struck me that a year ago. This man was the toast of the college football industry national coach of the year the national champion. And how could he be in trouble. And i asked that tongue-in-cheek because i did read your column. Well yeah i mean it just shows how quickly things can change. Employ knows anybody. The gene chizik is probably the perfect example. As to how thing out vaccines can change. And you know if you're editing certainly. Don't want to be compared to jean. Who is a very nice man but didn't work out the end for auburn there and i think the challenge that that faces that was similar to choosing. Is that when things started. Going bad with kizzee again. It started going bad after. Gus malzahn left. What happened as you remember is that people basically gave malzahn all the credit to the national shaped team of course of cam newton as well and you started seeing just not really getting credit for winning that. I'm already seeing some of that. Lsu wish he were pointing to joe burrow. Joe brady dave randa as roy. The reasons for that national championship game and that stuff starts to happen like the cases is almost starting to be made as to why os. Ron doesn't deserve all the credit to the national championship. And why maybe he isn't the guy for the long-term future air. So i can tell you. Within the industry there was a lot of interest around that job. No one expected to open this year. But there are certainly some high level coaches would love a shot at it would ever come open and they're not gonna decadent live and they're thinking of the next year or two jobs come open especially next year if it continued to really struggle you see more opt-outs more transfers all of a sudden you start going to cultural problems with some of the other issues that are going on there and then it starts getting a little easier to to imagine a move jollity with us you know you talk about the future in terms of ed- odur on what about the president for gus malzahn. I know it's a familiar. You're late season conversation but this year. The noise seems to be loud. Yeah i mean i think. Back to one of my Favorite bands talking heads. You know once in a lifetime and the situation is same as it ever was. You know it feels like every year we get to the end and you know it looks like justice on the hot seat. You've got you know some powerful boosters trying to work. I'm the scenes to to see if they're move can be made and gus just kind of battle into hang on. We've seen it in the past when he was on the ropes. And then he beats georgia and alabama. And it's a massive extinction so you everything is kind of feels like on the table for auburn. And like we said in the asfaw you should never. I think make a decision purely just off of one game. But i do think this is an important weekend for us because a loss mississippi state given all the challenge. They've had this year Certainly would not pretend to a lot of positive momentum going into next year no matter how much he says he thinks it's going to be a special year and i think you can never discount the emotion that comes up high-level boosters so a bad loss mississippi state and you might see some people compelled to really make run at pushing gus out so i think this is certainly of a movie night. The most exciting slate of games this weekend. The game on paying close attention to is mississippi state. Johnny was almost a year ago. You you wrote a column entitled winners and losers of the fallout of the expected. Sec espn deal talking about what was announced yesterday. We all know it was supposed to come out. Be announced at the sec. Basketball tournament somewhere thereabouts. Everyone knows what happened in march. I'm curious though is For someone who's been following this story since its inception has broken many important aspects of it including what you wrote yesterday. Just give us your thoughts on why. This is so important to not only the sec. But to it's its new life partner. Espn well because i know you're too humble to mention it yourself. I had one of my wears off for the record just so that your listeners. Now i've got pause one of the big winners of this deal. I think it's important for a couple of reasons. One obviously is a lot of money involved here. And so the sec. Already been the best answers along the big ten in terms of its pay us to its schools but with the cvs bang under market rate for many years. Now there's been a lot of money on a left on the table and here this is going to rectify that so it's gonna be a much bigger payout for all these different esi schools which allows them to spend more money on all the things to spend on coaches and facilities. And all that kinda stuff. I think in terms of fans one of the big things that i've heard and tots back yesterday that it gives them a lot more flexibility to be able to schedule in advance as opposed to recently with cbs. A two week out window. It was kind of waiting to see what cbs does before scheduling their games in theory They concede much further out in advance. You might know in the summer okay eleven. Am gave this week. I've got three pm game three weeks after that. It makes it a lot easier for knowledge fans to figure out what they're doing but also of course coaches and athletic department in all that out in advance so it's certainly a huge deal You know it's a couple years away of right now So you get a little bit time to wait on that But it's an important deal for everybody in something like you said you was agreeing to really a year ago but finding was able to come out yesterday officially. Cbs has this for three more seasons to call them. A lame duck would would would be unfair to lame ducks out there. But what d- no and what what is the likelihood that. Cbs says you know what. Let's invest our money and things that we are going to control long term as opposed to something we are just holding onto well. I think it would be a few different active there. Paul and that you know we know that this has been extremely popular product four. Cvs you don't just give it away early unless you have to use some things to keep in mind here One how much money's offered you know everybody will say that. Something's not for sale. But i think everybody has a price so now it'd be one thing to consider is this. Espn just below them. Away of christ another key. Things remembers that the sec has to be on board with it as well so it's not purely just a gsp pm. Thing the final angle. I would say that is worth considering is a cbs. Spend the nfl writes. That wants to keep that could determine how much money you might need extra coming in. Ask some extra money to spend. Just some of the rights deals that are coming down the line of somebody at conferences not. Cbs wanted to make a run at another concept deals with big ten or pac. Twelve down the line. Maybe they went benefit from having some extra money they could spend and be able to added a new brand. That could go all in on and really kind of france us. There's after the sec since nineteen ninety-six. So there's a lot of factors of mare three yesterday. No high-level discussions have happened to this point. But i think certainly your employer would love to see a little bit earlier. It could just gonna depend knock. You know whether it makes sense for cbs to do that and let me close with another line. You had from this article a year ago. You talked about how as this deal was closing. This was in december of twenty thousand nine hundred and this was really the first big moment for greg sankey since taking over i i thought about that john and then think about where greg sankey is today with literally the weight of college football on his shoulders. He's gone from the commissioner the sec. I don't mean to put words in your mouth. But i know how you feel to literally the most powerful and successful person in this in this place and in this platform. What does this deal on. Top of what he has done since covid. Where does this put him. Yeah and he's had a tremendous year. And i always think you know me well enough paul that you don't wanna be the sec guy who just only beaten up You know how great the sec is. Safety deserves a lot of credit for everything eat did over. The last year avocado football season this year. I mean you know how tenuous it was at various points this year in the sec. Staying resolve in working behind the scenes to try to keep the acc big twelve yawn or his well. I think it's huge and really why we're still able to talk football and having season all the games that we're talking. That aso deserves a massive amount of credit for that and then again during a huge deal here you know his predecessor Staying with cvs less money to stay of cbs white. The entity on it would have been easy in some ways. I think just stay with. Cbs because is a product that was working at a one that allowed fans alike and are custom to we saw the reaction to possibly losing just acting song and how much that made people think and so took to move to espn seems easier. Think about now but it is bold in some regard. And i think he deserves credit for helping kind of navigate that athen. I thought it was telling you. He told me that really from the moment he took over. Excuse me was announced as commissioner. He started thinking about this meteorites. Deal so worth for many years behind the scenes thinking about this move and again you know agreed to essentially a year ago but finally announced yesterday just shows you the work that went into it and it's going to benefit. I think certainly schools financially but fans one joy. Some of the flexibility. That comes with the schedule going over to in john. Finally the path. The path forward Four months ago today the big ten shut down the college football world was hanging on by threaten. I thought it was interesting. Michael sags when. I know you ve interviewed many many times told us the other day here the epidemiologist from uab if the situation with cova today was was same back in august. We probably would not have had a football season which leads me to the next couple of weeks. It's getting considerably dangerous out there. Doctors are telling people don't travel all of. This is the college football season hens for championship saturday next week. And then the playoffs. What's it gonna look like over these next three to four weeks. Yeah i think. One of the things that i i saw the day thought was telling you pretend down. The future is just boston college deciding that they didn't want to you. Play a ball game. And you're gonna see more and more of that going forward in wish you. There's been a massive level commitment that we've expected all these student athletes and coaches stay on board. Try to stay in a mini bubble. Best possible not seeing their friends and family you playing a bowl game would mean likely missing christmas for most of them being their families. So i think you're gonna see a lot of the programs that might have been geared toward a lower bowl designing. It's not worth it. I think again as upset of asan you show the high level programs that are in the running for Whether it's the cloth or other high-level near sixty goals there's one to for them to try to keep it together and keep powering through because you know dr saga mixed great points that it is going to be very challenging going forward is getting even more challenging given the numbers. We're seeing around the country and so you know for the album of the world is so much the place or they'll find a way to keep you know trying to get across that finish line and staying safe during it. But the other programs athletes other people involved aside. It's not really worth all of the toll of financially and emotionally to keep trying play football beyond this weekend next weekend when someone to make up games are scheduled to be played. There's nobody better to unpack the vagaries and complexities of college. Football than than john. Tommy john thank you very very much. I can't wait to talk to you again soon. All the best thanks to balkash gionta the senior sports editor at aol dot com. We are heading to a break. We'll get to your phone calls in a moment then. Many more gas as we close in on friday night right here listening to paul finebaum show podcast medicine and we are back in candy is up next in toledo. Kenny get evening. How are you hi paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you a year. welcome. I talked to you last week. And i mentioned something about an asterix season. And i know you didn't wanna hear it but i don't think you really hurt me out and i wanna tell you what i mean by that. Okay and i. I think the big fan really screwed up this year. They panicked and they cancelled the season. So the pac. Twelve the cancel the season. Then they come in six weeks later and they want credibility now. I'm big time. Ohio state fan. I'm a big big ten fan. And but i don't think they have any credibility right now and i don't think that ohio state deserve to be in the playoff and simply because not enough games and everybody knows that they've lost some big games in the last few years when they were ranked in the top. Four what do you think about that. I think they're in great shape and they're they're they have a path and then there's a scenario as you know that would let likely keep them out. Alabama really is the key for them. They need alabama to win. And then i think they're and they're they're in really good shape. 'cause 'cause i think ohio state is going to trump texas am rightly or wrongly. I think perceptively the big ten champion is going to be able to leap. What most all considered to be the third team in the sec. Even even though technically they may be the second team. Okay but what do you think of this scenario. And i know you know who met album and i know that he brought this point up. Why can't if If the big ten is going to change the rules to get their team in why didn't they change the rules and let them play out of conference gates. Well that's different. you know. listen. I respect mitchell lot He's a great writer but big ten. The sec primarily believed that everything should be conference only. And when you when you only have an game conference. There's no reason to do that. I mean they chain a rule that they put in three months ago. It wasn't like a lifetime deal. Hey thanks for the call. 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All eyes on #4 Georgia vs. #7 Auburn

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All eyes on #4 Georgia vs. #7 Auburn

"Welcome to the audible presented by Creator Joe's I'm Stewart Mandel joined as always by Bruce Feldman for our second episode of the week. It's a kind of a light slate of games this week Bruce, but there is one pretty big one in primetime the SEC Georgia Auburn, and that's why we wanted to bring on our excellent. Georgia. Beat writer Seth Emerson. We are pleased to be joined now by the athletics Georgia writer. Seth Amerson nobody covers the dogs more thoroughly than sat than. Obviously they're playing in a big game. This week I know every game is is seems big in the sec these days but certainly, Georgia Auburn and prime time up both teams ranked fairly high. But Georgia coming off not the greatest debut against Arkansas what southwest the panic meter in Athens right now after they had to. Change quarterbacks pull out of that hole against was supposed to be a pretty lowly Arkansas team. Well the the panic meter is lower than it would have been if they hadn't gotten things in order in the second half there, you'll hear from some people saying look they still covered the spread They'll be fine with sets and Bennett. But if they hear that doin mathis might start again they're gonNA. There's GonNa be some who say well, we'll WHOA. That's you know. It's it's interesting. They're playing auburn they're playing this huge game and it just it feels weird they the Auburn game historically is like the second or third last game of the year and it's in mid November when it's cold when there have been nine or ten games, it's the stretch of the season instead it's game to. And you're thrown into this, suddenly, this top ten matchup that isn't this fun. Top Ten matchup like Notre Dame type game we comparing yourself against someone it's it's a game that is going to have huge implications for Georgia and they're still figuring out their offense they're figuring out their quarterback they're figuring out their offensive line there trying to figure out if they've got as good a running back as they've had in past years and so yeah, there's there's I wouldn't say there's panic around here but there's definitely some reservations. South I wanted to ask you. So there's a lot of eyeballs on the quarterback spot I Jack Jamie Newman talented, but wake forest transfer didn't stay there very long. He ends up opting out and you have jt Daniels transferred in from USC and he had a big reputation because he was a five star guy from. Powerhouse Program at Modern Day that cranks out quarterbacks. And there was you know granted he graduated early to go to USC but it was up and down no doubt and I think there were some people at USC who quite honestly felt like, okay. Keaton slow us even though he's a three star guy has a lot of qualities that they didn't see in jt Daniels but still jt Daniels five star guy and when five star guys especially at that position transfer people just kind of the hype cranks up and so he goes there and. Right now I, mean some of the things I had heard was again he's coming off a knee injury. I had heard he had a procedure in January. I guess and his mobility is still a little bit of a question. It was not great beforehand and given the struggles of the offensive line especially on the right side. How much do you think that factors into how Kirby smart looks at this quarterback situation? Yeah I think factors A. Lot into it when Kirby announced. Monday. Morning that he will be clear. That's the term he used quote he will be cleared for the Auburn game that the narrative than immediately emerged despite people like me pointing out in the same tweet saying that he'll be confirmed that Kirby says I don't know that this changes much in terms of the equation developed whatever. But the narrative people was here comes Daniels to the rescue. He's the new starter. Look I don't know if he's GonNa play Saturday. He's. Available which apparently he wasn't Saturday at Arkansas but. As were talking right now on. Wednesday, not sure when you're listening to this out in podcast land. But I've heard that on Monday, doin Mathis got most of the first team reps and practice which for a lot of teams Monday is kind of a cleanup fix the mistakes from the previous Game Day anyway. So don't look too much into that. But on Tuesday, it was a little bit more split between Matheson. Stetson. Bennett. Now. Do we get around to Wednesday and we start to hear that J T Daniels getting more work I think it would be a lot of work to make up at this point for jt Daniels to be the star into play. So I think you're probably at this point still going in with Stetson Bennett and doin Mathis competing. and. Yeah what you said about the mobility thing and when you've still got a line that has some questions. Stephane Bennett has mobility as well. So I mean he's like a legit four five guy. So he and Mathis are away similar but Bennett offers them experience. He saw when he went in the game, the passing game was more crisp. They were able to get into tempo into rhythm. But they chose doin mathis to be the starter after like you said, not from the beginning of preseason because Jamie Newman was going to be the guy at first but they had about three weeks where they were working with the assumption of Doin Mathis being starter. So are you going to throw that out the window based on a quarter and a half of just? Not, looking, ready for it maybe they do. But maybe they don't maybe they give him another shot I mean look. They've got three quarterbacks right now and. Was the John John Madden popularized the expression of if you've got two quarterbacks got none I don't know if he ever said anything about if you've got three quarterbacks. So Georgia's got itself a muddle right now. Yeah I mean let's just follow that up and clarify because I think a lot of people out there and I saw in the reactions to accommodate my mailbag Wednesday just assume that the only reason to one mathis was starting in the first place was until jt Daniels comes back but that it's not my understanding of how the preseason played out. I mean I know he never Kirby never actually had to make this announcement, but it is your is it your read of what happened in preseason that Mathis just? Moved ahead of him on the depth chart yeah. I, I think it's a mixture of the two I on the one hand. On the one hand they weren't absolutely sure jt as would be able to play in the opener which obviously he didn't. He couldn't He was healthy enough to make the trip and get into uniform but I think you have him on the sideline there so that he's part of the conversation, he's in the pre game meeting he's on the sideline. So he you know so you're he definitely. is in their plans all along but they didn't know for sure he was going to be cleared. So they didn't WanNa. Waste a bunch of reps on somebody who might not be cleared on the other hand. They really liked what they saw from doin Mathis. So you're kind of going on two different tracks here and you're going with two different quarterbacks to to on Matthews's dual threat guy. J, Daniels. Jake frahm type and Doin. Mathis showed them enough and impressed them enough. They said well. You know, let's not split reps with JT Daniels and then find out closer to the game whether or not he can play. Let's roll with Mathis because we think he can do it. He brought his confidence. So I, don't know if you can say for sure student that like he beat out Daniels, it was a little bit more of a nuanced decision but. Mathis did not get it by default that just because Jay Daniels wasn't available, and then by the way you had steps in Bennett hanging in the background the guy who has been around Georgia's program left and came back. But he's been around long enough that he was mimicking Baker Mayfield during rosebowl prep in two thousand seventeen. So the fact that they able to throw him in the game, the way they did without him getting that many first team reps if any in the lead up to the Arkansas game speaks to Bennet. It'll make it interesting I it complicates the decision. because. On, the one hand you could say right now give and Bennett's and first team reps and he'll be even better or you could say well, look look how well he did as the fallback option. So let's keep them as the fallback option and roll out doin' Mathis again and give him another chance or jt dams. Back to the podcast in a second but first word about draft kings. Last week is in the books, and now it's time to review the tape and prepare for this week. There's no better place to get in on all the action. Then with draftkings the leader in one day fantasy sports to add to this week's excitement draft kings has a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes up for grabs. If you haven't tried draftkings yet head to the APP store now because you don't want to miss this, you drafter lineup and feel the sweat like never before every run passing catch means more with draftkings. It's simple. You just pick your lineup stay with the. 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They were the preseason pick for the SEC east title and when you look at what Georgia has especially after what a dud of first half they played against it's probably the worst team in the conference in the opener. So now you look at. The next five weeks, it is a interesting sprint. So George will play Auburn. We Know Auburn even though they lost Derrick Brown still has some studs on defense. Then Tennessee comes in there and Tennessee's top twenty five team. I don't know if they're ready to knock off Georgia but there are formidable. Then they got to go to Alabama than they gotta go to Kentucky and then they play Florida. When you look at what Georgia has right now, how do you see them getting through that that next five weeks of these next five weeks. Before the year, I picked them to be. Five and one at that point with the Alabama game as the the loss. But I still felt like Alabama game was kind of a coin flip especially in a year where home field advantage would be very minimal. I want to overreact week one too much I I WANNA see how Georgia looks against Auburn but. The way their offense did struggle and the uncertainty that emerged at not says quarterback but running game. A central point to all this? Is that with a normal Georgia where you've got A. Couple of great running backs. And a lot of five stars and just a big great offensive line that is. Bashing over defenses, you can get by with an okay quarterback situation. I mean they still were eleven one heading to the SEC championship last year. In a year where Jake from had regressed and wasn't as good as he was a freshman and sophomore. The problem this year guys is that they're run game needs to be better. They I don't. As a mere white got better as the game went on against. Arkansas not explosive early starting to get better James Cook the other guy. Is just the he he had a rough game and he hasn't showed it yet, and their offensive line wasn't able to get this great push. So they may do some tweaks this week they may move some guys around. But if an Auburn's a test because like you said they, they've got those D. lineman whether or not Derek Brown whether or not became. Bryant is able to play right now that looks like it's questionable but it still Ronnie Garner recruiting that D. Line so. This is going to be a test, and if they're able to come out in three able to run the ball better between that and their defense, they should be okay if they're just solid quarterback, but the quarterback issues are going to be magnified as long as the running game and the. Pass blocking pass blocking was still okay. It was mainly the run game was mainly going forward but. It the quarterback issues are GonNa be magnified until the whole offense is in better shape So it it's. quarterback like I said, it's going to get all the attention, but it's not the thing that you have to answer on this offense and yeah, I mean if if they look like they did. In the. First Half Against Arkansas. Loss. Alabama certainly loss Florida's probably loss and Kentucky. Tennessee are going to be competitive but they're not as bad as they showed in the first half against Arkansas. The question is how much better are they? In that game, they could still come out of this like six. Or five and one in good shape. But Yeah, Florida looks more competitive now. I mean, it was going to be competitive, but it looks more dangerous now and every game in this upcoming five game stretch looks competitive unless they get this offense order. Yeah I. Think it's interesting in the SEC this year with a ten game schedule. I feel like like you said earlier, you know, Auburn Big Game Conference title implications but not quite as much as it would have been in an eight game schedule like it's just such a long season that they could. They could get off to a rough start. They could lose to Auburn and then you know six weeks later everybody else has a loss or to to we'll just we'll have to see but in terms of the SEC east kind of looking at the bigger picture here. I was very surprised I think a lot of people were to win the SEC precinct meal media preseason poll came out last week in Florida was actually picked to win the east because I think that the the general perception is that while Florida's had a good couple of years, the past couple of seasons under Dan Mullen that they generally overachieved in Georgia still. Has You know they've signed number one number two recruiting class every or they're still the far more talented team okay. I. Don't want to overreact too much too week one but Georgia had the issues they did and then conversely kyle trask in kyle pits I mean just went out and put on a show against Amiss in Tennessee at a nice road win in South Carolina so. What is your feeling on on the state of the SEC east right now. I. Definitely I I was with you and a lot of other people that I was surprised when I saw Florida was the pick because I know that there was some Kinda loud voices in the preseason saying Oh. This is Florida's year and I kind of thought it was just boredom people are looking for a new angle and the SEC East Georgia won three years in a row and it wasn't close. You still look at the talent gap and say, well, you gotTa Pick Georgia. But they they found enough voters to pick Florida and week one gave them reason to feel vindicated. But we've got a long way to go I wanNA. See How Georgia looks against, Auburn. And you WANNA see a Florida's able to get its defense in order but. Look I mean I covered a Georgia team last year that relied on his defense and there were a lot of people I wasn't one of them but there are a lot of people saying, oh, defense wins championships. They'll shut down Joe Borough and Lsu they've you know Yada Yada Yada and we saw what happened I mean this is this is a different day and age in college football and would you rather have a strong offense or a strong defense right now and that's why Jordan needs to get better on offense because. will their defense automatically shut down? Florida's offense enough and win enough games if their offense is not moving the ball well enough no, I won't I'm not ready to change my pick I. I want to give it another week, and like I said, the thing that Georgia's still has going for it is its depth and its experience for as much as it struggled. It's still pulled away and basically covered the spread depending on when and where you placed the bet and I think Georgia may have actually still had the biggest margin of victory of any as game last week. It's just how bad it looked in the first half is, is everyone's takeaway so Yeah. But I I've been on the Tennessee I. Don't know if I'd say bandwagon but I've been saying for a while that Tennessee's on the arrows up there Jeremy pruitt was going to recruit well, and I, think he's shown himself to be a better coach than people thought he made me mark stoops has a solid program there at Kentucky that could be dangerous. and. Even. Looking further down like I know South Carolina lost a Tennessee I covered a game where South Carolina Georgia last year. So it it's it's getting tougher for Georgia in the SEC but I'm not ready to bury them yet. South as we're taping this earlier this month, you released the book attack, the day, Kirby Smart, and Georgia's return to glory I. Appreciate you send in a copy my way. Something I actually already started reading and thank you So I have two questions for you. One what made you decide to write this book now at this going into twenty twenty And that what that decision making was like and to as you're sitting there watching the Arkansas game, knowing you have a book coming out a book that is out how much are you thinking man? This is not going to do well for my book. If they lose this game to this Arkansas second question I I'm thinking well officially, I'm not thinking. About. My Book that selfish but I'm thinking thank goodness. They moved the season back by four weeks because that gave me twenty six days. The game was on the twenty six released was on the first twenty six days for people to have nothing to do and to think about what's about to happen, and so they read about what did happen. It may turn out. Okay. I just it. The best thing for my book sales because Christmas is the next like run you know this bruce haven't done books is that Georgia continues to do well but the bottom line is this book is about the last five years of the program Twenty fifteen to twenty, nineteen and A. Especially, that era that twenty fifteen to twenty, seventeen, nine era. But like part of Georgia history that I think is so key the triumph books came to me with the idea actually after the two thousand seventeen season long story short going back and forth in terms of timing, giving time to write it and research it it came out when it did. Before the twenty twenty season but I really focused on that zone starting in Twenty fifteen mark ricks last year and everything involved in that Kirby smart coming in what he did to change the culture the things he's done to improve the recruiting around here But what I think really carries the book is is the stories from people inside the program. Talked to former players I, I didn't want this to be a cookie cutter just rehash of things that had already been out there I went and interviewed especially for the book former players, former staffers, coaches, even some people still around the program, and then of course, there's my own kind of institutional knowledge being there every day and kind of paint a picture chronologically of of what I think is a cool story about a if you're a Georgia fan I think it's A. You'll love it. Even if you're not a Georgia fan it, it's an interesting story about a program that a lot of people thought was. Should have been one of the elite programs in the country but wasn't quite there. That this is how they got there and there's they're still there as we record this on Wednesday morning. We'll see what happens in the Auburn game but this gaped disaster at Arkansas and Georgia is still a national title contender in twenty twenty s we record this. Yeah, I mean it's it's interesting time for them in that. You use word national elite I mean. Based on the record they've had since two thousand, seventeen based on where they are compared to where they were those last three or four years under Mark Richt obviously the recruiting success like they have established themselves. As one of the you know most formidable programs in the country, and yet there are people who are going to hold it to the standard of while m won the national title they they ended up in the sugarbowl the last couple years so sorry. They don't get to call themselves that and I would just say, well, if that's your standard than I guess, there are three programs in America. They can call themselves that because a lot of people would like to be in Georgia's shoes right now they are the Atlanta braves of the Bobby Cox era without the one title that some people still put an asterix because it was a strike here but I don't think that's fair but look braves fans ultimately will take that. The around here I'm in braves land here and I think Jordan fans. Ultimately, we'll take that to they want to championship and I don't think people around here are GonNa Fire Kirby smart in the next five, ten years as long as they're in the conversation every year most every year and right now they're in that position. Back to the podcast in a second but first bruce word about one of our sponsors artifact. So, STU artifacts set you up with one of their professional interviewers to capture stories about the important people or things in life think about it like your own favorite podcasts. 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Here's how it works for you go to hair dot com tell them a few basic things about what you want artifacts to be about, and then what we did was we answer a few pre interview questions scheduled the interview. The whole thing only took a few minutes in our interview was about thirty minutes long it was easy. You just call in over your phone from your living room from there are facts, professional editors and sound engineers take care of the edit and the final product is great. You can listen to it for yourself at Hey, artifacts dot com slash audible, and you can see great examples of how people use artifact start your own at hey artifact dot com. So use Promo. Code audible and get forty dollars off your episode get hey artifact dot com slash audible. I think that's That's an interesting way to frame it because like I talked about this and I think we had it on the podcast maybe a year about like because of just the staggering number of five stars brought in. Your already had the expectations. Rick did very well, I think it was a very good program maybe never great just because of no national title and that's the that's the metric when when Nick, Sabin your. Division in one Florida's conference on Florida's one one titles and now Lsu has won a title and an Auburn had won a title i. think that you know people look at that and that's what the measuring sticks GonNa be in here. Right? It's GonNa. It's GonNa be fascinating to see because I the way I looked at it was. Usually, if you do if a coach doesn't win a championship in like within the first five years at the school, it doesn't seem like it. It's very rare that that happens later in the process. Yeah I I guess I, guess that's right. You Know I. Guess Sabin won it fairly early? Well, how long did it take sainted Lsu? Only a couple of years. The best. The Best Sparrow comparison to Kirby in this assuming he does eventually, breakthrough is Mack Brown at Texas because he would he just. He would sign these great recruiting classes and then they go and lose to Oklahoma again and end up in the holiday bowl and he was just everybody focused more on the negative, the positive, and then he gets Vince young and they finally win the national title but that was probably seven or eight years into his tenure. So we'll let let us also not ignore how close they were in year two I mean, they're one busted coverage away from winning at all I mean they were they were in overtime of the National Championship Game Sometimes People Act and look I don't WanNa come off as a homer but some people act like they haven't been close they were. Yeah. That's the only your they've been in the playoffs but they had Alabama in the way two years ago the Lsu in the way last year and then three years ago they were in it. They basically had that game one now. Yeah. They didn't finish it but look this this team's been this team's been really close. Another one who would fit in that category of not a right away championship coach albeit much different circumstances. Dab Oh, I think it was in his seventh year at Clemson before they won a national title and kept on felt like they kept on elevating and elevating and getting closer and closer Seth The people can buy your book at I would assume the easiest way to get attack the day is to go. To Amazon, dot com the other places you would like to plug. Yeah. I I've done stuff with avid bookstore, which is a small Athens bookstore here in Athens Georgia that does a great job at local everybody but you know try books is a good outfit if you Google attack the day. Seth Emerson even attack the Day Kirby Smart. Google you can get to wherever platform you can to to buy it. Ra Seth what we really appreciate coming on and looking forward to the big game the Saturday cannot believe it's week two in they're playing Auburn. It is a weird weird season suffice to say. That is for sure especially since it's actually week five. The. Okay. For me it's week to hear. We hear you. All right. Thanks so much. Thanks guys. Always great talking to seth. We will see you guys Sunday morning after that game and so many of. You haven't done. So already please subscribed the audible. Apple PODCASTS spotify or wherever you get your podcast and while you're at, it gives us a review and a five star rating helps get the word out and you can subscribe to the athletic right. Now for just a dollar a month go to the athletic dot com slash the audible our producer on the audible is John Hayes our theme song is dangerous by Kevin and the octaves you can get their music on spotify. Saturday night after the games remember to email us at the audible pod at gmail.com. We can get your questions on Sunday mornings. We'll see you next week.

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College Football Bangers + Drum and Fife Strife

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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College Football Bangers + Drum and Fife Strife

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I will be a little bit more detailed about that. The next time I record, which will either be later this week or early next week I promise that you only get solo tie for a very short amount of time, but my whirlwind claw office creation tour continues. That's what I will say so. It's very kind of you to say that and I'm actually I. I am excited for this show. Not because it's my final show in this specific cloth is on the west coast, but because I feel like, even though a cough is a reality for me I, feel like this show specifically means that we get to enter into yet. Another new reality as we discuss a topic for this coming fall, and beyond season did ever play the sims tie and played. Yeah, are you kidding me? You did thus sims. You dated like a tie, Avatar. Oh, I did yeah. And did you get to explore sides of you? That weren't necessarily based in reality where you like. An axe wielding guitar. Yeah, yeah, I, mean I. Think Folks could gather from listening to. My Standard Fare of commentary here on the show that. May, be the the dark side is not necessarily what it is. Yeah. I explored as youth so. In playing video game. Sure we went there. You are you're throwing game at virtual ladies I was yeah, that's what I'm hearing. Okay? Yeah, so I, think we get to explore that side of you specifically on today's show and I'm quite excited to do so because I came up with at least part of the title and concept for this. You did a lot of the Legwork, so thank you but I. AM proud to say that it was for my brain from which Bob Bangers only erupted, so I apologize and or take credit. Let's get into news though before we go any further. And we explained what. We have raw. WHOSE SAD breaking news! Yeah, I have to play it. I hate to play it but I have to play Dan. The Patriot League has announced. Its decision to suspend. It's fall season. Actually cancel its fall season. They have no plans at least as of yet to turn that into a spring season. They said that they will quote. Consider it. It is just the latest domino to fall in this whacky wild world of college football that we currently find ourselves. In of course, it was the Ivy League I making the announcement than we saw subsequent announcements from the Big Ten and PAC twelve to play a conference only season. As it stands now. It seems that they're going to try to do that in the fall. We'll see if that's something. They're able to achieve or not. Still Awaiting Word from the ACC the SEC and the big twelve at sounds, if they they feel like they have more time to make that decision, so we're obviously waiting with baited breath to find out where they come down on things, but the Patriot league at least as for now is not gonNA play in the fall may consider doing something in the spring, Dan. Would you go as far as Sang Dunn's Oh. Yeah this was. This was a specific bummer to us. Obviously, because we celebrate and cherish all things Patriot League I was going to start trying to remember rivers and lakes from the mighty lobby blot. To the percolating blabbity Blah but I'm just GONNA say it. It does genuinely bum me out because one of the things that we like to celebrate on the show, it's not even just specifically the Patriot league, but it's all college football. It's sort of finding you know. Perhaps some nuggets from smaller team smaller leagues that are exciting that it's just not power five. You know obviously there are a number of teams to get through, but the Patriot league felt like it was hours and. You know if they're still a power, five centric and of Pseudo G. Five power five league. That's that's our season, not league. That's great. That's that's something to celebrate, but not having FCS programs. FCS programs like colgate from the last two years ago, that made a nice run into the playoffs and represented their league really well. It's a bummer that those stories are not going to pop up especially in December so. Were Sad I'll? I'll speak for you I think and saying that we're sad. There's no Patriot legal out of Patriot League fans Chard are pretty bummed. There's no Lehigh Lafayette for the first time in one hundred and fifty, some odd years fifty five for easy. And I don't know if you saw black. Smoke emerged from the as Bethlehem P.. A. Based the the League office. Yeah, Oh, yeah, now it's. It's in Center Valley Pennsylvania to be I. Don't know if there was. A. Sadness that you could feel a cloud of sadness over the area, but I'm bummed out it. It sucks. Elsewhere in college football. We have news that JT Daniels. He Sung waiver to play immediately. At Georgia, that waiver has been granted. You may recall J. Daniels. Burst onto the scene as Starting quarterback, he left after a knee injury, and now by virtue of this being. Accepted by the NC Double A. He has three years of eligibility left. It does come with a pretty big caveat, though knowing where we're at in college football, what exactly does immediate eligibility mean to you? Incomes I think a more operative question will clearly see where the SEC decided to go with its season, but. The notably if we just keep it within the college football world here. He is expected to contend for that starting role with one Jamie Newman who comes over as a Grad transfer from wake? Forest's so much I. think remains to be seen on this front where Daniels fits into the equation, not just in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, but certainly beyond it some it. It's another able bodied quarterback, a very good one at that that Kirby Smart Canal at into his arsenal. What what is your general impression about? Who are you more impressed by who'd you rather have? Your. Not taking a chance on, but sort of going in pseudo blind with considering their new transfer players, JT, Daniels or Jamie Newman just from what you have seen of each of them at wake, forest and USC, which I'm sure is limited in the case of both because of injury and games. You've seen because they haven't been necessarily consequential, but who strikes you as the higher ceiling guy given the surrounding talent in Athens. Well I'll answer this two ways everything I've read tells me that I should be more excited about Jamie Newman that he is maybe a big kid. He adds a dimension to that offense. That perhaps wasn't there before I. Think just by sheer number of snaps. The answer is probably Jamie Newman, but I am excited to see more of JT. Daniela's just because unfortunately, his his first season was cut pretty short. I have no idea what to think I watched a couple of full Jamie Newman Games, and saw some really good, some kind of bad some kind of ugly and I. Don't know how much of that is system. I mean Dave Clawson. The offense is pretty efficient. Late at in wake forest wake forest. The JT Daniels thing has certain point I love that phrase so much love that preamble. The injury concerns are I, think legitimate. Some guys just get roughed up and just have bad injury. Luck throughout their careers. We've seen it time and time again. The Jamie Newman thing. It almost feels like people considering how long the college football offseason is, and my goodness could be this time around. It gives people time to talk themselves into situations, and that's something else that I worry about what Jamie Newman where he might just be. Fine, but because people are saying well, new offensive coordinators may differ. I'll look at the receiving talent. That's retirement. I'll look at the field position. They'll be put in because the Defense Jamie Newman is just. He's the best quarterback in the SEC I'm calling it now and people just in successive weeks. Talk themselves into situations over talent, and so I'm not sure what to think. I suppose. The arm talent rests with JT Daniels but. If availability is the best ability a yeah. I'M GONNA go Jamie Newman I think. Okay, what else do we got well funny? You would ask. ALWA- state's athletic director. Is Detailing significant financial ramifications of there being no college football season. I'm going to read this verbatim. This one comes from a Yahoo sports article. In a letter to the Iowa state community, athletic director Jamie Pollard detailed the realities that athletic departments around the country are facing amid the corona virus pandemic. In expressing why it is vital to attempt to play college football in the fall, Pollard revealed the financial hit Iowa. State both the Athletic Department and university itself will take if there are no false sports. Twenty Twenty Wrath department quote would incur approximately forty million dollars. In unfunded expenses in the next six months and quote. While universities revenue loss for the Educational Fund for the Twenty Twenty one fiscal year. Quote is more than forty one million dollars in quote. Pollard said on top of that Pollard said the total revenue losses in costs at Iowa state quote since the start of the COVID, nineteen pandemic through August, twenty, third twenty, twenty are estimated to be. An additional seventy, three million and quote so. Long Story Short here This isn't any thing that we didn't expect. We knew that there will be a lot of institutions taking a hit, but I think when you see the numbers imprinted obviously resonates on on a different level I know I speak for you when I say that we. Obviously would love there to be football, but we would for there to be healthy football conducted in a manner that's responsible that cares for the safety of the players. This is the other side of it, though and if you follow college football. If you follow our show, you know we do our best to follow the money. If you're wondering. Why is there such a groundswell of support still for playing a college football season in the fall, despite the fact that it feels like it may not be the best decision. Yeah here, numbers like seventy three million dollars in that could have something to do with it. Forty million dollars, whatever it is a lot of Zeros Dan, and it is going to hit a lot of these institutions on the Chin isn't. Oh for sure is I feel bad probably first and foremost for I suppose. You know seventeen eighteen year olds who are going to school specifically to play a sport and so much of playing that sport is tied into their identity and their friendships, and their their time. Really I, also you know you feel for you, know the local businesses that are going to be hit pretty hard you. You're talking about all the potential and auxiliary situations. restaurants, bars parking lots. You know everything that relies on a pretty big crowd for six or seven Saturdays every fall on the flip side. There is a certain amount of magnifying glass on how much football pays for everything and everything relies on football i. don't know if you ever see that. Sometimes are random explosions in New York City that just happened underground or happened in the middle of a building, and then you find out that like Oh. There was an illegal gas hookup. Seventeen different units were all hooked up to the same gas main fully illegally and. There's no actual correct way to respond to a story like this beyond. Diversifying can be good, and if we are as a college football universe reliant so heavily on this one thing happening and not necessarily prepared for a pandemic, because nobody can be prepared in any sort of you know rightful way for a pandemic, but. If you are putting all of your eggs into a single basket for so many people in any situation. You're risking a pretty big backdraft and so. I feel for them. I feel for Iowa state. I feel school. I feel for FCS. Schools that are going to be taking hits without getting those payout games at fun so much. But at the same time. I. College football may have gotten too big. It may have gotten too big, and this is what happens sometimes, we you know if we're going to get real big picture. We saw it in two thousand, eight with banks and his college football too big to fail. Are we going to figure out? We're going to see schools dipping into rainy day funds to figure out how to bail college football. I don't know I don't know but at this point. That's the sort of language were hearing from people as relates to how college football is responsible for rising all boats, the tide of college football is now responsible for rising so much more than even we could have fathomed it's. It's interesting. It's not the only industry that is facing a reckoning about how to organize and how to figure out finances, but. It's I think the business of college football in. Two years three years, four years might look very very different. I have recently learned what the term force. Majeure means. NBA, college football. Yeah, yeah, as it relates to being unable due to unforeseen circumstances to fulfil contract. Language like that and some of these non conference matchups that. Yeah. You see bubbling up in the news so again. Something to keep our eyes on, you know we will two other quick ones. Here Texas is going to keep the eyes of Texas as it's almo Mater, but will rename the field after former heisman trophy winners Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell, those changes are in response to a request by several athletes a few weeks back after the death of George Floyd We're going to link up that article out. Encourage everyone to go out there and read the statement verbatim. They are going to make some changes. Tom Herman came out and said he was very proud of his student. Athletes for moving things forward. I mean anytime you align your program more with Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell feels like a win, although you should go out and read about who Joe Jamal, I guess was the crazy successful attorney and I guess he could be interpreted as both crazy and successful. From Houston I believe who was a billionaire who donated a ton of money to Texas, but yeah I Campbell Williams Williams. Campbell failed. It just has views rights ring to it if you. Will Tidbit here I've got. Shadow standards you know that name? I do now. I didn't before sixteen hours ago. I don't know if you can see in our shared google. DOC here that I phonetically spelled out. Because I did not want to go global tomato on this kids first name. Sanders. He is the son of Dion Sanders. He has officially committed to. Florida Atlantic Dan The owl woo. Yeah Boca! He is the highest profile commit for new coach, Willie Taggart. He is six two. He is two hundred pounds. He is the number eight pro style pocket passer. In the class and the forty first overall prospect so good signing for coach Taggers I if he truly is and I have no reason to believe. He isn't a blue chip quarterback and a top ten. What you say pocket passer. I don't think he's GonNa end up at FAU. Opinion that's all I got for news Dan anything else for you. I'm seeing class of twenty twenty one Cedar Hill. Texas Texas area. Looking at his offers I don't know if they were compatible offers but. Seeing Alabama hard to believe. He shows fau over Alabama. Asu Baylor claims twenty-five five offers. One of his top five offers is cornell okay. Shout out to the big red. yeah, I. I have no reason we won't FAU but. Hope. Hope it all works out for him. All right as for the content of this show. Yes, we're. We're steered into the whole conference. Only scheduling bit because. I think if you follow college football, follow the show. You clearly know that. This is something that that's going to happen like the writing is on the walls. If your favorite conference didn't announce it yet, chances are just by the precedent set by the big ten by the precedent set and then followed up upon I. The PAC twelve. We can see where this is going. All the conferences before long are probably going to announce. Conference only slates, so we started thinking. Strength Schedule Right strength schedule is kind of like a big deal in our world, we talked about it frequently on pretty much every show during the fall. Certainly as we get into things like who is going to qualify for the play-off, how to teams rank against one? Another strength is a very big talking point in the world of college football that will seemingly take on new meaning Dan as we enter into this conference only world. I don't know if I had in mind. I came up with the number five because the potential of having five games in the fall, perhaps starting in October, and ever team taking the week between games so by week separating. Each week to give teams time to figure out health issues that that could bubble up and then five more late winter early spring. Almost like what breaking bad sopranos. I. Think Battle Star Galactica. Yeah, a lot of shows have done when they say okay well. I know are normally are seasons are ten episodes, but it's the final season and we wanted do fourteen. Let's do seven starting in the fall and seven starting late spring, something like that and the Hank on the toilet on breaking bad of came to mind for me when thinking about how because it always does tie. It always you watched breaking bad right. Of course hank on the toilet. Okay, sure hang on. The toilet, broke up the first and second part of the final season of breaking bad so. That's how I'm sort of thinking of things. As a possibility because if you listen to conference commissioners, if you listen to reporters speaking to a lot of people, I mean our friend. Nicole our back. rostelecom spoken to a number of administrators Pete family has been very active in this space that the thing that the common refrain is, it's all on the table. Murray it's we've got a contingency for everything. It's all on the table and also if you hear if you were able to listen to the audio of all these conference commissioners and high ranking people. Everything they said probably started with. Just that sound that's. What probably started out every single answer given to a reporter about where things stand now so. Because, everything is on the table. WE'RE GONNA go ahead and assume it contains are bangers only plan which is? We think we looked at power five schools, not that we hold anything against G. Five schools, but you know the G.. Five situation is more up in the air right now given that we don't know what's happening with power five scheduling across different conferences and non conferences, so we'll see there are certainly bangers only teams on the G. Five level, but for this exercise I don't think we've highlighted how bonkers it would be if we had an all gas, no break season. Where in this hypothetical world? What is the team is? What does that mean? All Gas, no breaks. What does that mean? There's no weeks off. There's no we have a down out Maryland this week, oh. We have an Arkansas team. That's clearly quit Oh. We have this non conference game that are starters won't be in past the middle of the second quarter that there is no chance to bill depth. There is no chance to exhale where I'm just going to take a team at random here. Okay, you ready Yup. Let's go just turned up Penn state if Penn state season were exclusively exclusively. At Michigan, Iowa Ohio State at Nebraska and Michigan State say. You don't have a chance to breathe. If you're a penn state fan, it's it's. It's enough already in a regular college football season to have panic about this linebacker now working out or these injuries on the offensive line or this coach doesn't know how to call a game on third down the fact that there is no chance to say all right. Let's get into a rhythm. We'd have a down week or whatever. How bonkers? That would be especially if we were alternating Saturdays where you know Penn, state's only playing once every two weeks, and we have nothing but time to panic about everything. You know I mean saying Penn State Fan say in this case are. Minnesota fans are Oklahoma. State fans where it's just Oklahoma state would be bedlam on the road at Baylor Texas Kansas State on the road and Iowa state, and that's just going to define an entire year of Oklahoma state. Football's bangers only man bangers only matters crazy entertainment. I am interested in Lsu I'm interested in how they follow things up. After having such incredibly successful year seems I'm interested in Lsu. Do they have a five part. Bangers only schedule where I can say who are the best or most intriguing five games that lay in front of the Tigers and how does that compare to me being interested in the main team and the five best most intriguing teams on their schedule? So you know you could say you. South Carolina having Florida on the Road Texas A, and M. Georgia Lsu on the road in Tennessee. Those are that's kind of if we if those were the five South Carolina Games that. We got to see this fall. That's pretty interesting. except I don't care that much right now. In terms of intrigue, as relates to other teams in their conference about South, Carolina, okay, both sides of things, so you need an interesting team with a bang. Sleep 'cause because good games go both ways right? Sure so okay what we've done what we did is we went through quite literally every power five team and pulled out their top five games. We also pulled out some of the conference game conference. Excuse me, yeah! We also pulled out some of the games that they are missing. So you mentioned Lsu Lsu's interesting, and maybe we can start with them as as an exercise here. At Florida home, against, Bama at Auburn An, and then that fifth game. I, you know maybe Mississippi State. Maybe there isn't quite a high profile fifth game that rises to the level of those other four. I would love to see. Mississippi state LSU K J Castillo throwing into a pretty dangerous lsu secondary. Getting Sec Arid Dallas I. Mean it's at Lsu right. We're getting SEC arid in in Tiger Stadium I. think that's that. That has banger potential. I think in normal circumstances again if we had the whole slate of games here, the fifth game or maybe like the third game I don't know would be Texas. That game that they were slated to play early on in the year. That's not a in this exercise anyway, not going to happen so of those five games Lsu I. Think's a pretty strong contender for Banger of the SEC west. The caveat is that all of the teams in the SEC west I think also fall into that category, so let's take that saw games fall under the banner umbrella I'm just saying when he Arkansas Games. All Right? Let me offer a caveat. LS So bam also. We gotta get lsu Ole Miss. I think the pseudo rivalry. Bama. Auburn and am are the four teams that I would say are very similar in the in this respect. Yeah and Lsu is definitely interesting. Let me, let me posit another. Possibility here. Okay I'm interested in Auburn. Not Completely Auburn goes on the road at Georgia. They've got am and Lsu at home. They go on the road at Bama for the. Iron Bowl. And then they're on the road against the team. Mike Mississippi State. That's a that's a hell. Of! An Se schedule right. They're going on the road against Georgia. They're also missing out on a UNC game, which I think in normal circumstances would have been a lot of fun. See Sam. How now yeah? But I'm just I'm always interested in Auburn. Because Auburn always feels to me like they've. They've got enough talent to go either way and we see every other year is gus. Malzahn getting fired? We don't know he never does so looking at a state like this a five-game slate if auburn could go like four and one through that slate that will be held and accomplish I don't think that happens, but as five game slates go especially in the SEC west where they're all pretty tough. That one's very interesting to me. What gets you drip in about Auburn though? The Bow Knicks thing. The Ball Nixon what's in what sense that you think he's going to explode. In that I thought he was better than he was all of last year. And now all I've read about this off season is how can bonex take his game to the next level? And I think I'm just a sucker for the big name. Freshman quarterback, especially in the case of Bo Knicks where he's like a legacy, and he comes in with a lot of fanfare. Through the early part of his season last year it. He had some of those moments that I like to latch onto. So I'm holding out. Hope that he's better than we saw as a true freshman. Chad Morris and You know with some of these big games on the schedule it's it's particularly appealing. We know that they've always got a lot of talent on the lines. And we've seen crazy things from Gus Malzahn Auburn team. You Have Mississippi state here as a as a Banger team which I understand, but you don't have ole miss. I don't know if you have them anywhere in terms of what you consider to be banger or, worthy. Is there. A reason ole miss. Lane Kiffin. A DJ Durkan co- coordinated defense Some returning talent on Defense Jerry, neely, on offense to sports star playing baseball. Janis Plumlee, promising with the legs lane, kiffin familiar with the SEC west goes way back with coach o! Obviously Alabama I think they're ceiling this year and I think Mississippi state should have a good offense, but they're ceiling in terms of narrative and intrigue. Might be a little bit higher for me while so here's what we're looking at with Ole Miss. We've got an auburn game. LSU, game on the road. And an Alabama game at home back to back to back. Right Auburn At lsu home against Obama. And for their top fiber at vaught hemingway I'm seeing Bama, Florida and the egg bowl all hypothetically bangers only guess no breaks. We've got, Florida. We've gotta game at A. M.. And then, of course, we've got the egg bowl so. I would put. Up for over an That is a pre meaty slate right there. I gotta say. I. Don't think you can have any Banger Rolodex without the biggest rivalry game of that specific team so I'm GonNa go with you I'll go ole. Miss There in the SEC I'm just saying Ole miss even just as a banger opponent. Yeah, but they're interesting, aren't they? They've got a lot of inch there and as you compare them to some teams in the SEC east. A highlighted South Carolina because the schedule is a murderer's row, but is South Carolina interesting? That's that's the operative question. That was something that you said at the top at Florida home against am and Georgia on the road against Lsu and then a home game against Texas. They miss out on that Clemson game again. If. We're thinking of in terms of this thought exercise. That's a tough schedule. Are they more interesting though than a team like? Georgia or Florida Georgia's sodomy Georgia to me is the the Banger only all gas, no break schedule here because I, at least I have the narrative of Georgia trying to go to Columbia and get revenge for a loss from last season losing to South Carolina the way that they did and how sloppy they played. Florida with you know Florida's on the road in Knoxville Florida South Carolina as interesting to me. Florida Ole Miss There's something there I guess. You, know Florida George obviously neutral site, but Yeah, I think it's Georgia. I think just in terms of a slate of bangers. Anywhere else. I'm intrigued by Tennessee for sure, but finding you know maybe a fourth and fifth banger is not exactly a an easy task. I think it's got to be Georgia and I liked the storyline too because. You know we've been talking a lot. About what do they do a quarterback and there's some turnover there new offense. What's that GONNA look like? How will Jamie Newman or JT DANIELS FIT in? There are going to be new faces on Georgia's start for sure and they're interesting because they are trying to take that that next step in their progression, I'm running back up. So at Bama Home Against Auburn and Florida at South, Carolina home against. Tennessee. I'm Florida's neutral saying Jacksonville neutral site. Sorry. Miss out on the Georgia, tech and UVA Games as well, which would have been really. AC so that. Yeah that it sucks to lose out on a rivalry game for clean old fashioned hate there but nonetheless. I think that's a good way to look at bangers. Only I mean if you had to rank are their secret intrigue teams for you. We talked about the Mississippi schools I'm just GONNA give you a couple pairings, okay? What not forget the the five bangers, the four bangers. Whatever Missouri Kentucky. Just individually. Missouri. Season are you more interested in. I think I am probably a little bit more interested in Mizzou. To. Yeah. New Coach New quarterback. Coach and quarterback. Now I think, does it? But I must say I have come around on Kentucky. Around Kentucky and Want slight. The Kentucky Fan base once was enough for me. Let's move to the big ten. Okay, okay as you look at your slate of what? Fourteen teams here twelve I guess. Get confused. How many how many bangers only are we looking at here? I'm not seeing a ton. I'm not seeing a ton just because. I don't know how interested I am in Indiana. As a full drop, everything gotTa Watch the hoosiers. They're good. They're fine they. They could certainly win eight wins this year. when games I think. I will go. Man I wish, I cared about Nebraska more because that the the slate of bangers is interesting. especially I think it's the bath half back half of their schedule, right? That's why it's interesting. Okay, that's why it's interesting now. Look again. We're living in in a in a post Cova world, their approve a present Cova world whatever you want to describe it as a pandemic, and you know that I was on the record, saying Nebraska could start seven hundred and finish seven at five. Here's what they're looking at back after schedule. Yeah, at Ohio. State Penn State at home at Iowa home against Wisconsin home against Minnesota, that's a hell of asleep to draw both Ohio state and Penn state from the East is really bad luck, really bad luck. Nebraska's interesting because they've got a dynamic quarterback. At least we're told the dynamic quarterback when he plays, he's healthy and Adrian Martinez Lot of fun. I think Moody's downgraded the word dynamic to something a little bit less after. After last year hurts, but yeah, I, when you start looking back two years anytime I see the phrase if he regain his form from not last year, but a year before that that's when I start worrying. There's a Scott Frost element to this coming back home, trying to rebuild his Alma Mater. You know like there's a lot of intrigue their that Nebraska I-. I- latch onto so I think for me. They're the team here if you combine the the plotline with the schedule. They're the one that I've got highlighted at least in the big ten west. Spoken like somebody who does not remember the experience of watching Nebraska football last year. Spoken like a man who has experienced forty three months of life since Nebraska last played football like we all have I guess my answer is if I had to select team that combines both the intrigue about them and a slate of bangers. My answer is probably Minnesota. All right just because of the offense because they're on the road against Wisconsin for the acts there on the road against Michigan, so it's it's an interesting Another other one against Michigan State Michigan Michigan State on the other side Iowa. They get at home in trying to. Get revenge against the hawkeyes sell I think Minnesota comes as close just because of the combination of quarterback and road slate to me. That's interesting, but. It's a the. Not at not big B. One g list of Bangers for me. I will isn't interesting to me. But they do get Minnesota. Ohio state and Penn State on the road, which is really yeah. No, they're one of the road. Dogs of this for sure and interestingly enough with the cancellation of the non conference slate. They can't play Iowa state. which many of pointed out on twitter, the ultimate marketplace of ideas. Not, always good ones but that why is it not safe for them to like travel across the state to play? O Stay I! Don't have an answer for it, but now it's a logistics thing. Yeah, that's. Vague as I can be yeah, in the East I think the answer. It's gotta be Michigan. You know I'm I'm always interested in Ohio state and Penn State and you know I've got a sauce spot for Indiana. Michigan. State's got a new coach. Right, but man games on the road. Michigan's got a lot of turnover. They've got that just constant turnabout where things headed under Jim Harbaugh They've got a road game against Ohio state. which we know is going to be headliner. Home game against past eight. They also play Wisconsin. They're on the road at Minnesota. And frankly for your fifth Banger, you could pick either Indiana a road tilt against Michigan State or maybe throw purdue in there. I don't know Oh go the rivalry game tie. Come on Michigan, state. Going a little brother of course I don't know who the little brother is, but yeah I'm I'm ready for it at Ohio State Penn State. Wisconsin at Minnesota at Michigan State so three. Interesting Road Games there. They do miss out on the road till week. One against Washington that we talked about a couple of times Lou Spin Road Dog, yeah yeah we, we talk about that one a little bit, but that game not going to be happening as both now have officially canceled their non-conference slates Tell me I'm wrong I think. Michigan's got a lot of intrigue and I think the schedule definitely makes it. Makes it trial by fire for them. That is not an easy slate of five games. Man. I duNno in year thirty seven of the Jim Harbaugh Baya. I think we have to limit our annual summer Michigan Intrigue. Getting the Lada new faces same season with Michigan and I pencil on a loss in Columbus. Probably either Minnesota Wisconsin coming after last year and the way they sort of look listless against the badgers whereas just. Ham Michigan's nine and three ten to see I. Refer to this as season six of twenty four. Okay, you know. I was into that series. Right? Twenty couldn't tell you which what happens season six. And ads listen. I watched one year. That's part of the point because who were really into twenty four. Hung with it through about season six, but it was at that point where you started to realize hey! This is all kind of the same, isn't it? Jack, Bauer a yeah everything they tried to do started to feel the same and so season six for me was was an ultimate point where it it started to run together. Feel the same in every. Every season thereafter lost a little bit of the lustre. So was Jim, Harbaugh, torturing college football fans just to get information out of the terrorists. Is that I. Don't try to figure out the connection. What was the name of the C. T.? Way I was trying to pull back Jack Bauer for one last. He's the only guy one last job I don't know Jim Harbaugh. Is the only guy we've gotten to that point? Where we have to start wondering I am I. Am Not Ready to I'm not maybe I'm in season five, but not six. Okay. Yeah I can I tell you the secret intrigue in the East my secret intrigue in the East is Rutgers. Okay, go on! Not because I feel like they're going to do anything crazy exciting, but I feel like they could have a wrench season. Where they're just, they're losing a lot of games twenty eight to thirteen, but it's fourteen thirteen at the half like ooh. Laurentian a five game all gas. No break season here perhaps. With the number of transfers with what I believe to be a better coaching staff with the weirdness. That's whatever happens this next college football season whenever it happens. I feel like rutgers can be a wrench you position. A wrench position. Dirty Okay I. Forget the name of the character from dodgeball. Dodge a dodge wrens. You can draw dodgeball. Yeah, there's. Yeah. Yeah, about piscataway. ruckers that I'm not feeling the magic I'm not thinking Pixie. Dust from the from the scarlet knights, seeing wrench fest, two, twenty, twenty or twenty, twenty one has seen pandemonium. Before in piscataway. Right you're saying. Okay. I had trouble with the big twelve. Because Hula hand by the way, Oh right, thank you, make you. Heaven Forbid. We forget that. I had trouble with the with the big twelve because. It's they all play each other. Fewer options, fewer options and I felt like we really had to wait pretty heavily. Which of these teams we were most interested in in. It's one hundred twenty season and less so with the schedule. Because again it's it's all sort of the same. Anyone, jump out to you I. I always veer towards Texas and I. Don't like the way I feel about that, but. Right Texas to me is where I always go naturally here just in terms of intrigue in terms of. Is Your Tom. Herman can build them up or they're gonNA. Plug some of their gaps like. I. Don't know where. How do you come down on on the big twelve year? Oklahoma Baylor K. state I'm GonNa tell you why those three teams traveled to Ames Iowa. And I just. That's that's Banger. Capital city tie We've got Oklahoma on the road against TCU, whatever Fort Worth is fine, but Iowa state as host Oklahoma and that just it seems to be spicy every season tie so you sign me up for Iowa state. Oh you wherever it is we have. What I said, Kay State Yeah K. State is a road dog, and that includes aims trip, so that's Baylor on the Road Oklahoma on the Road Iowa stayed on the road for Kansas State team that some changes on defense, but some continuity on offense with skill in quarterback. It's a new look, offensive line, but. Can I don't know what an advanced wrench would be, but Kansas state. Has that potential even as a road dog out of them? That I would agree with that. Baylor with a new coach. On the road in Norman on the road in Austin and on the road in aims at tough. It's weird, but returned quarterback interesting hires on both sides of the ball coordinator. Wise I think Baylor is is all gas. No breaks and they don't have to play. What is it in carnage war current? No, so there is there. Is that degree of Baylor starting off on the same foot after so many years and I know this is an older narrative, but at so many years of just ignoring Baylor in September, there a big beneficiary of just into it as everybody else gets into it, so they're Baylor Banger I'm there? I'm either Texas or Baylor. And I'd like to retract Baylor Bangers. Officially retract that in all seriousness I have officially retracted IT A. Either on the tech side of the coin here for all the usual reasons. Interested in Texas Outta, here or Baylor or Baylor you know the new coach. Ash What happens without Matt Rule? how does Dave Randall as a coach? For a while to see what Dave Aranda could do as as the CEO of his own program. To the coach of Baylor. Really excited for kids. Really over play. He's Lego Batman. It's a really good crash like what I'm seeing out there. Decker one time God. That's to recruit. Locker Room That might be the reason. Baylor eccentric because of his Voice Co.. I really I'm GonNa Miss David Voice that only recently discovered if we don't have a season this fall. Be Ready I had no idea that was the thing. Oh Yeah. Man I'm going to have a lot of friends that aren't we? Yeah? Let's go to the PAC twelve if we could okay. Washington for me, is the. Is The answer and here's why road dogs baby. Yeah, all road games all the time. Yeah, new coach! Got Some. That not playing at Michigan game. Great. On the Road Oregon at Utah at CAL AT USC and As bangers, only schedules go. That was the only one that I could find. There may be others. The only one that I could find were maybe the best five games on the schedule are all on the road. I think for Washington we have to say Vegas Vegas bubble. They might get the treat of a Vegas bubble if they don't get to play a home game all fall along. We have to say a neutral site Washington and that that feels like the right place. They get to play their games. At Sam Boyd Stadium or as I called it Gorman Bishop hill for t tough field Organs got to go to Vegas SC to vegas direct flights from from L., A. Definitely not from Spokane area Utah Cal Yeah you can get to Vegas, you Washington players get better accommodations. They all get condos at the whatever resort and that's the concession I think for for the road. Dogs that are Washington Yeah. Let me ask you a question about Oregon could very quickly. Yeah do do you have a little less disdain for the corona virus? Because it also means the cancellation of that North Dakota State Game I'd let him relieved. That Oregon doesn't play trae Lance and the Bison of North Dakota state correct. Yeah I mean it's it's lose. Lose you beat up on North. DAKOTA STATE! You're like well. There are good FCS, team, but yeah, obviously Oregon, going to beat them and if you lose to them. You just you laughed at. Why did they schedule them right right so? It would've. It would've been nice as a football fan to see what exactly North Dakota state could do. Against a top ten team in the country that would have been really nice I'm disappointed because I've seen a good amount of attention on trae lance. Why don't even think threw an interception as a freshman last year for the Bison to see what he could do in a again? We're talking alternate universes here, a rock and autzen stadium. That's a bummer to me the fact that it was. A crazy look ahead game with Ohio state coming into to odds and the following week. Kind of a relief. Yeah I say you know of of all the conferences that I saw there. There are some high profile games here. We'll talk about some of the Games that teams in the ACC are missing out on, but you know, and certainly no disrespect teams like Wisconsin who. Had Notre Dame had APP. State no disrespect to a team like a South Carolina, that might not get a chance to play its in state, rival and Clemson. which you know falls into that Iowa state category, but. The PAC twelve is if you have if you have five games of a team to watch. Do you want to enter the cone zone? Is that somewhere? You really want to be quarantine this fall. Cone Zone be honest. I don't know I to me. No, no I don't really okay. I I was just where I'm going with. This is the PAC twelve is really missing out on some non. Conference Games Oh yeah! S. US's not going to play or Notre Dame Washington. We already mentioned Michigan. Or again as a college football fan, yeah, I'm interested in North Dakota, state and. Ohio state game as well so a lot of artillery. There you, Byu. The Holy War might not happen so. Yeah a lot of intrigue there. I'm just not happening tie, yeah! I'm searching for a team that I think rises to that Washington level and I don't really find it here. I guess maybe USC because they've gotTa say USC Nice Yeah They. They're Utah on the Road Oregon on the road. Either Stanford or a home game against cal? That's you know. Interesting but for me, it still Washington. Let me, offer you this Arizona. State is at USC at Wazoo cal at home at Oregon in Utah. I'm intrigued by J. Daniels. The way as who finished their season last year, even though I was somewhat inconsistent, he rose to the occasion against Oregon. and to see him against some teams going through some defensive changes, while Sue's certainly struggled last year now starts over again on defense hopefully I think they hired Wyoming's defensive coordinator. Oregon's can have a better defense this year than they did last year. And hopefully they don't get torched by Asu wide receivers here in Oregon Fan you tie. A lot of good back and forth history there. I think Asu for sure has bangers. Old is cat. We're just cal rank on the on the Banger Sky Have Cal here to Utah Oregon. Washington all at home. And then traveling to SC traveling to asu yeah. CASTLEFORD Arbor's yeah. I'm always goo. Goo Garbage you that we do lose the cheese at bowl rematch against sh I now I know we're sitting here. Bemoaning all of these supposedly bigger rivalry games, but she's about to off the table. Move over the A C final congress here then I'll mention Notre Dame quick because we have to contractually. I am. So You know the the Clemson storyline is interesting to me. It's interesting on a number of levels. I I don't know what's going to happen with this season I. Don't know which direction things go none of us do angers excluded? Sorry, continue but. Trevor, Lawrence and what he does this season. Me As something that could be a very interesting. Talking Point will will there be upside for several. Ernst even put himself out there. I think he is in that. In that rare stratosphere. And the Twenty Twenty College football season. It's him just in fields could be guys like Tuba. Hubbard he guys who seem like they are surefire top round draft picks. Who May Soul? Yeah, yeah may consider. What this means to them in their careers moving forward. CLEMSON's still has some interesting games on the schedule. There's Louisville game. There's road tilt against. Notre Dame road tilt against Florida state. Is a Syracuse game which has given them trouble in the past, and then there's wake forest game, which just threw in there because I needed a fifth but. Talk yourself into more than one and a half bangers on clemson schedule. Louisville gets a half notre, Dame's Banger on the retard I mean the Florida. The Florida state game is traditionally very interesting, but. It's not lost on me that they're essentially starting over with Mike Norville. Yeah Clemson's Banger free since eighty three to me. That's how I'm reading. The Games here that I have highlighted are at Clemson. Home Against North Carolina Home Against Miami Home Against Louisville at Virginia Tech. They. Miss out on a Georgia game, but I'm talking about Uva Dan in the coastal. That's a pretty good slate of bangers. As it goes in the ACC and it was the best slate. Of teams that I could find. Louisville is also in that equation. Luvell I am interested in them, because of Mikhail Cunningham Louisville I, think has the best case just because of what we hope Louisville to grow into as a hopefully sooner rather than later challenger to Clemson even though talent wise. They're pretty far off. When you have a quarterback when you have a coach that seems to be building things the correct way that there is hope with level. At clemson home against both Florida State and Virginia Tech on the road at Uva on the road at that's pretty good slate. A miss out on. Yeah, tied rivalry. Know States TVD, but a lot of these teams are teams. Louisville should be done should beat with some comforts if they are indeed taking that next step. That's intrigued. That's Banger. Virginia Tech. Missing out on Penn State's kind of a bomber. Florida state in particular misses out on non cons against West Virginia Boise and Florida good for Florida state though. Off. Yeah, she's good for them and Miami misses out on a road trip to East Lansing. How would you settle things? How would I settle things? Yeah, how would you settle things if you have a bunch of five and four and one's maybe a scrappy three and two who had to crazy tough. Road Games very tight loss perhaps. It's without the data of twelve games where we're seeing how in team a team improves over three four months were seeing games with a week separating each game week off separating each game. Do, you say well Ohio stages the national champ. They look the best and you just awarding it. Are you fielding a neutral site? Low Key national championship somewhere? I think it's Barry Alvarez on twitch twenty four seven. Let's go out. Let's stay former ad former standing coach. With only five games. Do you take three weeks off and do a sweet sixteen tournament and some sort of Bubble Ahmen? Can this be our next show. Sure so how did decide a five game season using either games or not games to decide things? This is the show we're doing next Wednesday. Where's the bubble how forces we're. Doing, next. This is a great idea. I'M GONNA. Put It on our sheet right now. This is what we're doing. What separates foreign teams? What criteria five zero teams? Are you automatically out if you lose twice? Ramon universes what we're doing, so it's what it is. It's double elimination. I think so I think it has to be double elimination. are, we saying flex bracket could be an eleven team. Bracket was some weird by week action. I'm down at the flex baby alright. Mention bangers on I'll just mentioned. Notre Dame here very quickly. there is potential. That, they could pick up some free agent bangers. Because they are missing out on Wisconsin and Stanford and USC again. This is assuming the ACC will. Though that's available while I'm just wondering like, would they? Would they pick up a team like a Miami or UNC? L. E. HI Lee. Yeah, I mean. Everything's her things on the table they do play Clemson and Louisville at home. They got a road game against pit, which could be tricky but I'm curious if there would be a move. Try and pick up. Some action there if there are ACC teams that are left wanting additional football games. I also WANNA make mention to Byu and Byu. Fans that listen. They're in a real chartered spot here and. They've got game against Utah. which we mentioned Michigan State Arizona State and Minnesota, all of which are are seemingly canceled in this scenario so hopefully they're able to. if things proceed. Find some way to craft their own bangers only scheduled, but things looking a little rough for the kooks. Maybe why you puts on a secret mountain west hat and it's like baby baby baby baby I'm sorry I'm sorry. Hey, sh! All right how this is a weird show. Can I ask you one final question one final question? All right just because we're talking about you know a record setting or not record-setting, but a a one of a light once in a lifetime. said a five. And bangers only just of brings to mind some sort of radio hour in Tulsa. I don't know. Michael Jackson had five number. One hits on the album bad. Only one artists since then has had five number one hits. On a single album. Who has it got to be Lady Gaga. Katy Perry. Girl. Two thousand eight teenage dream. I've number one hits. I think it's teenage dream, et. firework California girls and I'm missing one right now. Is it hot and cold, or was that the previous album amiss missing one from that album, but she was the record tying. That on that album on teenage dream. BANGERS only. Man Okay that's I can't believe you got that. Right wheelhouse topic for me Katy Perry I actually I. Just didn't have enough time I did download the eight bit version of firework. Sites? Teenage dream. Ran The most successful number one single album. Of the of the modern era tie and you, you whiffed. Leave it there then okay should leave it. To my everlasting shame Friday night. Oh, thank you, okay, I am tie. He is Dan. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to subscribe to. The show got another one coming on Friday morning. Conversation with a good friend of the verbal yeah. Also, don't forget to give us five star review. 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Hour 2: Who's going to lead Georgia?

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Hour 2: Who's going to lead Georgia?

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Jamie Newman who moved over from wake forest for his senior season expected to be the starter expected to perform brilliantly according to many of the experts is opting out due to covert concerns and we are joined by my Griffin's to give us the absolute latest griff. Thanks so much for the time I. Know The story is evolving. We appreciate you making time for us. So what do you know? All like Newman has put out a tweet on this now Paul to small but to go so three, fifty, eight PM. Made official and he's going to opt out and try handed the NFL and and effectively end. Georgia Georgia quarterback situation. I know that Georgia is Georgia the Georgia quarterback situation always seems like a made for TV movie how how had he performed and what were the expectations? You know what I mean. The Red Sleigh came jt when JT Daniels transferred into Georgia and may I mean that? Told you something was up right? I mean there've been soon meetings and been talk and some questions about how Jamie was doing into zoom meetings and how he fit with Todd Hunkin. We knew the Kirby smart had ample opportunities during the off season to say how Great Newman was doing and he Said I don't really know who the quarterback is. Don't know what we really got there. He was saying that you know afternoon on campus in January and. February as well and in gone through the walk drills and and worked out with the team mate. So I think there was some question is how Jamie with it that new offense and the competition was hot this fall I mean Kirby GonNa. Take you down to the wire or not gonNA hand the job to anybody. Now James should have an advantage he's been on campus since January but you'll jt daniels is a really talented guy and you know maybe a better fit for this air raid offense we're going to see George Goto and you know Newman. Had A good run at wake forest He right I mean ranked six Qbr in the ACC sure what that means but he is now gone which let's continue the conversation griff about J. T. I know I know he was banged up I. Don't know what the status of that is but. His career is pretty legendary and he's still fairly young maybe the top quarterback coming out of college he started most of his freshman season. So I mean he he's been tested. off more even in that Dave clawson offense and I. Don't think people give Dave Clawson wake forest of credit. I mean. They did beat north. Carolina. Last year you know ran up more offense on. North. Carolina's and Clemson did if you go back and look at the box score when we jamie had his talked to receive is healthy but part of the reason was come to George was playing more of a pro style offense and group those potential NFL skills and you know I. Think he's been able to work in that offense, and now there is worth it. You know there's always the risk of injury with a ten game schedule. Last year, you make it through the season had a shoulder injury, the poorest Miss Florida state. Now, he's looking down the barrel of a ten game schedule. He's got a guy on his heels that my overtaken for the position in JT Daniels you know how does that look NFL scouts? So you know I think this is the Decision. Maybe per newman if you have concerns about covert nineteen or losing your job or or getting re injured, let's face it. It's a really physically Paul I mean there was only four out of fourteen teams in the league last year that had a quarterback that started every game and that was the eight game season. Now, you're looking at ten game season. Well. So let's talk about. Let's move. Let's move on because Newman is gone. Ye How does this affect your outlook on on the dogs this year Hit to the to the depth that quarterback I said before I didn't expect him to be the guy wire-to-wire whether by answer you let it by competition I. Mean I think t Daniels was a guy that. You knew coming in here was going to press I mean Keith Daniels is a really really talented quarterback was the number three rated quarterback coming out that class with Trevor Lawrence and Joseph fields and actually left highschool youthful has pretty much left after his junior year and got thrown into the fire You back let's look at those numbers Keith, Bartlett, Southend's coordinator that that didn't work out real. Well, put the head coach on the hot seat, and then the next year he was started coming out right any to over two hundred yards in the first half against Fresno state, and then the knee injury in the second quarter of that game let's hovis comes in kill. Does a job wins the job and the you know dangerous figures out. Hey, you know that this has got to be there guy to transfer somewhere the most amazing about this nobody saw jt Daniels company Georgia you know recruiting secrets are pretty rare especially this caliber, but but Georgia and the Daniels family really pulled this one off. This was a shocker when he came to George and it was also a red flag that maybe things weren't working out real great between Jamie over the data pumpkin. Well, let's talk about the todd monk and offense here because you know we all know as great as. As from was it was a mismatch and last year frustrating what about Mahnken jam-packed so far and and how does that correlate to jt Daniels since he is now going to be the expected starter Well First Things First Paul you gotTa have guys that can run the right routes and catch the ball George had trouble with that last year. You know they'd lost five other top six receivers from here before and they had six guys last year that either miss game with injury or suspension. Right I mean George picking didn't catch a ball onto the first four games and he was suspended for parts of to the last three games so that that was you're really talented freshman. More Caja. Was the guy that when he's on the field, you know problem completed over seventy percent of his passes. When he wasn't, it was fifty three percent because the rest of the receiving core was pretty early in that various sign that sound I think they're frustrated from and he left I think this group you've got experience coming back and some help I mean you hope that cares Jackson Dmitri's Robertson, two guys that were banged up early last year you hope they can stay healthy heard a lot about this incoming freshmen, your meat burden. Kitty a graduate transfer tight end for you know you're saying, well, wait a minute. You're talking about players not talking about it comes down to players. You know yes, it's. It's a sound scheme. There's new terminology they're going to be able to spread the field. They're GONNA go running back committee once again may drop off the deposition got a reloaded offensive line. He could got jt Dan who's back there I think pretty good triggered and Glenn Mathis and Carson Beck are extremely calculate the freshmen redshirt freshman respectively. We have not had a chance to talk to you since the full schedule has come out and you're you're certainly one that always can can see through what maybe others don't Open Against Arkansas Auburn Tennessee at home at Alabama. Kentucky. The Usual Game Against Florida add mizzou Mississippi State at South Carolina and Dander. But what is your assessment of the of the dog schedule now that they'll likely have J. Daniels at at the quarterback position Better, have your act together early, tall better. Have Your Act together early. You know you talk about that stretch. Where you play Auburn Tennessee Alabama Kentucky I mean that's the physical four-game stretch right there and so it's Kinda frontloaded. If you look at Georgia schedule, you still hold games between October tenth and November twenty first. That, that would seem to be a challenge. So I think you got the lay up there at Arkansas you get your. Scrimmage. Get Your Jamboree was saying Pittman in Fayetteville bitch better work that you'd better work the kinks out you better iron out the wrinkles because they're not going to be much margin. Play Auburn's tough listen Kevin. Steele is a great defensive my very nearly Tennessee's head coach. Remember he was a finalist switching through it and then you go from Kevin. Steele's playing Jeremy and you know year before was twenty nineteen, twenty, eighteen think Tennessee was only game jake from didn't have touchdown passes Brutal Scheme Yup if you've got the players they they got weaknesses maybe but but but he's a good coach and and then after that Nick Sabin sitting back only see what Kevin Jeremy did. So by the time, Georgia gets to Alabama on that game. Is. Going to have a pretty good read on them and George stay healthy and and they need this offense to sync up. They've got to find some playmakers and got trained kitty comes through that ident-. James Cook is a guy me not hurt his name much double cooks little brother. This guy's really good in the open field do everything running back and then you gotTa Hope George Picking. Up plays like a man can't afford for him to get suspended or break assignments. Mike, I know you have a story to put together. We thank you for coming on as a story is breaking. We always appreciate it. You. Got Migrants on the news. No official that Jamie Newman is leaving the University of Georgia before he ever plays a game, this is statement that he just issued. With much prayer and discussion with my family. I would like to announce the due to the uncertain news of this year amid a global pandemic will officially opt out. Of this football season to prepare for the draft, I would like to thank mark for expanding the opportunity for me to be a part of the program. All of my time has been short I built some relationships had a chance to continue my development as I prepare for the journey ahead. I remain hopeful and excited about what future holds especially during these challenging times. Hashtag grateful Hashtag God's plan Jamie Newman gone. Before he ever played a game at the University of Georgia. We will take a break more of your phone calls more guests in a moment. Don't let a hangover, slow you down fight it with goodies hangover pain relief at the speed of powder. Good. He's hangovers. The first hangover offering from an analgesics brand temporarily relieves minor pains due to hangover headache and even handles muscle aches. 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Glad you are with US recall joining us as he does every week and Rick I want to start with yet another bizarre. Unexplainable Week for Kevin Warren Commissioner of the big ten. He takes a call from the president. The United States with more information now available it looks like it was set up communicated through through a a go-between. I'm not sure what was accomplished other than a lot of attention. Good afternoon. What do you make out of it? Good afternoon I know Kevin Warren Well Arizona State. He's attributed to our sports business handbook obviously president of the Vikings got US Trust Stadium done for the Super Bowl for the bike. Pedigree credential when he took his job not sure you knew what he was getting into what I make of it is the president attempting to try to get in the middle of starting everything again before the election and I'm not sure whether his call is going to move Kevin Warrant Action you need a significant majority of the trustees and the president who control the athletic directors as we know, and every story has another side to it. We now see that I was state is now as of an hour ago deciding not to have fans in stadium for opener, we have you know your neck of the woods or former. Alabama with all those testing positive and as you said in your promos and as I said, everywhere, athletes may be safer it each other than going to campus going on campus traveling college students of any kind. These days is a license to spread the virus good or bad. If the college students stay on campus and get it and get quarantine, that may be the best way to control that. But obviously, with home and away schedules and college football, it becomes a whole different issue. Rick on the big ten position we're not clear what they're going to do but but I am interested in your thoughts on their obligations or contracts or whatever. We touch major networks like ESPN and Fox Where does that play in their decision to have some semblance of the season better late than never or a spring football season? Well I don't believe any of the standard contracts require you to play the season within a parameter of X.. Two X. Time is not really thought of before I know that some people like the British open had thought of actually pandemic as a reason, British tennis and British Golf not to go forward. Therefore, their settlements were pretty significant because they had thought about that everything here is an uncharted ground is an act of God quite clearly the the the networks base their issues at this level on personal relationships in common sense not. Necessarily where the contract. So obviously, with the big ten, you want to preserve as much money as you can. You don't have basketball mud for marching band is you don't have fans coming in. So you need to TV money. So if it's deferred action in the spring, but you get some of the money upfront, that's what the issue is, but it's not going to be resolved in a court of law, it's going to be resolved in a boardroom. I if they end up for the sake of argument playing by Thanksgiving they, they're not doing that specifically or are they to meet to meet the requirements of their contracts. Now, they're doing it specifically to generate as much money as they can, and they're contractors away to protect them and make sure they get it now on the other hand again, if it doesn't fit with the schedules, obviously the holiday time and the bowl time and the championship time or very important to as you know ESPN. We understand how many goals they have. The National Championship, that -plication understand how important the big ten schedule could be slash would be for the National Championship. But again, that's that's not as important frankly to the big Ted as the money would be generated and therefore distributed. Finally, the NFL we're a week away from from their first game, the first big weekend, and they have been about quiet throughout all this is is I can remember I realize we're not playing preseason games but I'm really interested if someone who has deep ties to that league, what you make out of the last few weeks for them and what do you think's going to happen next week Yeah that's a great word I I love that word even though I don't know how to spell it. So here's here's what's happening I. Think they're gonNA play I think again, a remote bubble where they gotta go to thirty six different locations thirty two different locations whether they like it or not. He may have playoffs in the bubble super bowl. Maybe February maybe April and you WANNA get through sixteen games and you want to spread it all out listen what happens this week which is kind of interesting at the same time we're squabbling over the corona virus and its impact on advertising and television. There are studies that have come out to the average NFL franchise. Even the Bengals is worth over three billion dollars and the cowboys over six so they must be doing something, right? Rick thank you as always great to have you on. Time antsy. Carl. Joining us as he does every week. We. Are. Again Watching a very interesting story of Athens. Georgia where it is now official Jamie Newman who transferred from wake forest is opting out. Of the season, we've already talked about that a little bit, but certainly he is now made it official with his Farewell Statement. Again, we are going to continue with your phone calls today five to four to seven, two, eight, five more guest come on what's already been a pretty busy Tuesday afternoon. Hey. It's your homie. Sorry. It's your home i. know you don't like it when I call myself your homemade. So I have some favors to ask you could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room? My floorboards are tired and other easy thing we save money. If you bundled your home and car insurance with Geico one more thing I know you of lavender scented candles but could be tried to he shouldn't be Noah. I think it would. Be Better. For Bundling made easy go to GEICO DOT COM today. Listening to Paul Finebaum. Show podcast look. At Shell we know from the time you get up to the time you wrap up there's a lot of meet ups. Eat, UPS, and hurry up. 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I think I. think that's what you are hearing and by the way I mean there's no way to know I've covered college football longtime and usually when a player leaves, that's what the story is coming out of the bubble and sometimes it's true sometimes just not the one thing I will say. Is this. In this year of all years depth position was fairly important and Georgia has. Much less than they did but. Kirby smart has had a revolving door at the quarterback position for a long time. I mean I realized Jake Jake from started his entire career but you know historically of winning the job and then adjusting field and now this is pretty standard Tara Georgia. How do you think this changes the dynamic to the east with assuming J. Daniels that starting job. I don't think it does I think Georgia is still the favorite. Maybe a little tighter squeezed than it would have been a only from the depth position and and again, you have a good chance of losing your quarterback in this issue whether it's injury or Covid, and it would have been a nice cushion to have but based on the people that have really do know. Jt Daniels career they think he was always going to be the better quarterback. Thank you. Thank you Yeah, I. Mean It isn't like Georgia has been wiped out they have not. They just have leapt less depth at the most critical position in in in the game let's continue and more calls and Jeff is in Georgia Hey Jeff. Thanks good afternoon. Hey, how you we are great just wanted to touch on the Jamie Newman News you know one question would be widey wait. So long to opt out I, heard rumors about the heat. Bothering him as well as Justin fields being at the first scrimmage and at University of Georgia practice. So is there a possibility with the big ten in air? Up in the air is it is there a possibility that he may be trying to maneuver back down this morning? Wow that would be the story of the year wouldn't. I first of all for him to get to Georgia. He would have to be granted a waiver. and. The fact that he is still remarkable that he got the one that he did to go house state I sincerely doubt he's going to get another one to go back since he used I believe in the waiver. Application circumstances that occurred down there I believe that's correct. To to help you open the door for him to get out. Not, happening and. What you said earlier about Georgia's quarterback debt You know they got four guys. They got four guys behind him when in other years they've only had you know. Two quarterbacks on the roster that were able to play. So you know with that being said I think everybody is going to have some some attrition less than. If you. Ask Me. Yesterday. Why Georgia's chances a baby winning the SEC getting to the SEC, championship game would have been a lot of reasons. But I I would have. Easily said, depth to quarterback is one advantage and if you look around the league. Even though neither has played a down at Georgia they both have started in in big time college football. So yeah I I think you would've felt pretty comfortable with that. So that changes but I think. I think any conventional wisdom that all of us had used in the past is out the window this year. But I will say I I think depth on your team at every position is going to matter and there are few teams. That had have any more depth Allah. The Alabama Georgia lsu still has some depth, but they have just taken a bashing in terms of skill position players and big time players who are gone. Now, let's check in with terrance who is in South Carolina. Hello. And thanks for having me on the show. Thank you very much. Yes. I was calling I'm a big time gamecocks fan and I was just wondering do you think might Bobo could actually This offense and new spark in could luke doty be a new weapon for us to possibly you know. Letting us at least have a decent season and you know turn things around and this young defense. Yeah, you know I think those are all interesting question. My question to you back is, what's a good season in South Carolina these days I mean it's been such a roller coaster ride. And and I I really wonder. So appreciate the call very much. Let's continue Lucy. In the sky in Tennessee. Hello Lizzy. Their how I'm a first time caller wonderful and I wanted to tell you that I am so proud of the way that you have represented it the University of Tennessee. Well, thank you. That means a great deal and I think too often because I have I have not lived in Tennessee. You know since my college days it gets forgotten about, but still very important to me. And I am. Proud. Today as I was when I graduated just a couple of years ago to be a graduate of university. Way Our shopper proud I do and I wanted to ask about the University of Tennessee season and their quarterbacks. And let Utah Okay. Well, thank you for the call and thank you for the kind words and I. I think the quarterback situation. With jared is good. I don't know if it's great. Hope it is I say that as a fan not as a commentator but I'd I really Feel pretty good about this year I thought the way the. The twenty one, thousand, nine season ended was phenomenal. The way began was atrocious but how you end is where people are going to remember and Jeremy Pruitt has done a really good job of building that staff and and recruiting at a level that Tennessee needs to recruit at two to be. Seriously, considered as a contender one day and I think they're getting close to that. Let's talk to Linda in San. Antonio. Hel Hello. Linda. Good. Afternoon. My name is Linda Gamble and it's an honor to speak with you. I wanted to. Hear your opinion on. Why College teams have got into politics now. That's all I. Is College Sports. And University of Kentucky have coach Calipari has they have brought in politics four black lives matter all the teams players had t shirts on his kids vm. And So I would rather that they politics out of this. And he would saying. Coach Calipari was saying for. Had different pages together. Encouraging. There's team players who votes to rich vote. That's okay. But when you're telling the team to pull the lever for one. For One group and They didn't say the Democrats. They said that what they were saying was about the policemen, the abuse and the racism of police. So if you've got common sense, you know which groups they're saying, which would be the democratic group. Why Do, they have to bring this into college football. You've you've raised interesting question and I think there are two separate issues here. In terms of what players are doing, marching and wearing. B.. M.. T. Shirts. I agree with you on the on the encouragement of vote I've I've interviewed various coaches and they say, you have to vote on November third. I think it's pretty obvious what they're saying without saying it so. You need voting is a privilege that we all have and we should execute but when I hear. When I hear that NBA NBA Arenas are being opened in others. It's it's pretty clear that there is a there is a director of there but. Beyond that, I think the other part of this is young people simply expressing themselves about things that they believe in and remember they're young people. Thank you for the call Augie who is who was once young. Is, calling us next. All I think satellite TV and cable has Expanded their subscription to retirement. Communities. Last week. Yeah I guess it was last week when you have Peter Byrnes had to take over for you when you were having some technical difficulties and I noticed that earlier this week you had some more. were you able to watch that telecast while those guys? He enrolled Ruin Harper were doing your show No, I was not just not like. I opted out. Okay. Well, I told you this before never walk in front of Peter Burns especially downstairs, and don't accept any beverages from him because he's really comfortable seating in your. And I'm glad to hear that Better Roy Roman Harper's your friends better check that because. He didn't insinuate he actually said because Paul's an old guy. He's a challenge by tricks equipment. So he pushed that off when you. and I thought that was just wow, that was really ugly to Paul but today prove that Romans probably right punk scene recall the Alabama Texas. Game. I mean, that was a great game. Texas. Didn't Alabama pull it out at the last minute when two or three pass and They basically crushed Texas this season. With Moore remembering that correct. I wish nobody would help me with that because I do not remember that when. I'm. To remember that one I thought Alabama player that lady was so certain again, it proves my point your show is with the t anybody can say anything becomes fact anyway great show called keep it up. Thank you very much. We are heading to a break. We'll talk about the big ten's problems with Teddy Greenstein. Coming up here in a few moments we have spent a lot of time in the last ninety minutes talking about the Jamie Newman opt out. We are coming right back much much more. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Help. We are acting Bob is in West Virginia here on a busy Wednesday hey bob. Hey Bite em a friend. I'm doing great. What's going on with you? Hey, let me ask you a question. You always gotTA opting out from. L. Hugh. For example, they'll say L. issues five enough are then players allowed to opt back in. A good question? I have to get some clarification on that But I don't. I would think once you leave once you opt out you you you leave the program I. Don't think you're coming back I'll have to get somebody to help me with the actual language there but I think you're gone. You're probably one more other thing Paul. Let me tell you something you gotta you wouldn't agree with this. If coated mark, he's players. They could march their way out of a job. Now, you're you're you're one hundred percent correct and I think people are missing that message I've had friends semi. Surprising literature about Nick Saban did the other day and I think they're missing the point. That the the the coach in in in this case or in any case is not making a political statement he simply backing his players. Exactly, right. There you go. Well, you probably know the answer it's about MC saving new stable was a quarterback in high school you know hearing Mananga? Three years in a row that was three years ago him and carry him although he was a running back they would. They would undefeated every year Dick quarterback and they won three state championships. he was. He was a you're right he was his father was a coach. It was a great quarterback. Thank you very much for the call. Bob Zach in Knoxville Tennessee Hello Zack. All how you doing Jack? We're doing great. I I'm surprised Surprise Y'all haven't heard from a daryl yet about the sense of what's going on down in Georgia. Yeah well, I'm not sure Darrell. Pace call is close to a close attention as it used to. So I got off. He opted out a long long time ago. I love that comment. You made last year I. Think it was when you said he retired Allah snow. Funny. But I wanted to ask you something else How do you say How. Do you say Florida season go on. I think Florida has has a really good season ahead, I? Think he's just. Going to simply come down to. Texas A and M. Game, which is a little more prickly than they wanted and obviously the Georgia game other than that. I think they're in pretty good shape. You think the LSU game would be a real struggle but I. I. Have some I have some questions about Lsu. Right. Right now with all the players they have lost but the gators. I think that am game on the on the tenth is one to keep your eye on. A really tough stretch militia back to back at the season is is a lot that can be determined during during that stretch and of course, tennis at Tennessee, at the end that's a tough tough ending they they've had. DREW is up next. Hi Oh. Hello. Drew could after him. How's IT going Paul? Very well. So I had a question for you, how is with the big time? Obviously, not playing right now, and if they do get a late start policy in effect couch football playoffs if the season carries on for them getting late start. I. Think it depends on the late start is I mean were they to start October? Or something like that. It wouldn't you know maybe they could work their way back into it but if they start Thanksgiving which is the speculation they're out. You a playoff is scheduled to begin on New Year's Day and follow. Eight eight or ten days later on, and if they're midway through the season, they are not going to be a factor it's over. Pretty Okay I Gotcha, and then one more thing. So say they do start in October and they have a chance getting playoffs. How big is they like shrank schedule born to play and like say the teams from SEC in the big time because I mean the like season a lot stronger than daytime. I it stronger but. Let's say it's we're talking Ohio State I. Think they have a game at Penn State? I mean that's a huge game. So I think. We're they'd come back. Allow State with. To, me starts season or winter started the season one of the two or three best teams in the country. So I don't think they would have any problem at all with their schedule. Now they lose the the Oregon game, but everybody loses a game like that. We're most everybody. moved. Okay. Cool. I. Got You. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much Terry is up next Kerry run ahead. On time, how are you doing? Great thanks for calling. You know I'm a huge dog fan and You, know these things happen I. Think now we should cancel the season. I'm kidding. I'm kidding it. You did say it does affect you know the debt that's it. I. Think I'd WanNa going to be pretty good with we've got other options is not a great thing to happen the timing is. Pretty cruddy for the situation but I think we'll be okay I wonder trying to open up a can of worms here but. This is the third significant player in in three days that has opted out in the alone and I'm wondering what's going on here under the surface because we're three weeks away from the season and. I'm curious what people think about why? Now what has caused Newman's case he may have seen He may have seen that he wasn't going to play, but that's right. That's still a strange I mean Jamie Newman. is projected pretty high, but this is not any by that's proven very much. And also, Paul that you're caller earlier about the Kentucky. Basketball into politics. That was a pretty smart call You know I I don't like talking about politics, but she made a couple of points to. Agree I mean this is a a I tried to explain it. I'M GONNA. Try because it's it's a complex issue. And in every coach doing it for you know probably the same reason to back his players and. or or concerned that if he doesn't, you know how is he going to appear right? What backlash would be? Yeah. So I think if you John Cale Nick Sabin, you decide do I do I go ahead and do do this Show my players that I understand them and believe them or do I say no and face the consequences and I think the answer is pretty pretty obvious. Appreciate call again I realized that somebody you were getting on late Jamie Newman the way far transfer many people thought he would be the starter and. He has opted out. That's the big story of this day we will continue discussing it also go to the candidate few minutes and find out what's going on there. What to do i Wednesday stick around? GEICO. Knows there are many reasons why you ride from the thrill of the revving engine and pure adrenaline of flying down the highway to the confidence of knowing that Geico. Has Your back with twenty, four, seven access to claim service. But are Snyder has one reason in particular. I had extremely large upper arms. They won't even fit into most shirts. Thankfully, biking really embraces vest culture. 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The Paul Finebaum Show: Hour 1: SEC Opt Outs

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The Paul Finebaum Show: Hour 1: SEC Opt Outs

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Feels like college football season is about to start because there are some games tonight and we'll talk to one of the coaches in one of those games here in just a moment, we have a number of gases I mentioned. We always enjoy your phone calls kissing some headlines here, and let you know what the college football world. Is talking about. and. It was the big story of yesterday of course, Jamie. Jamie Newman opting out has it helped a path of other schools like. Georgia. Well We. Like Florida and Alabama Jamie is gone. Couple of contenders sake. Take over that spot putting jt Daniels who once played at southern cal. So. What happens in relation to? The FBI Not The FBI the. Georgia is still the favourite and. Listen not much really changed Clemson Alabama Georgia still the top three picks Clemson and Alabama prohibited Georgia's next and by the way. After that it's it's anybody's Guess Auburn at number six, lsu eight Florida nine am. Way Down at ten with only six percent. Nick, Sabin having some comments last night on the historic the historic. March. We've heard a lot of conversation about that here today. He said he's not concerned what other people's opinion is. Adding we're not letting this guy very committed. To what his young man and many many many many programs have been doing all week and. In the aftermath. Rather rocky summer here in America. Meanwhile. It is Thursday so there has to be news about the big ten doesn't their Lawsuit. Nebraska Court rules big ten must disclose additional documents about the cancellations just one of the many stories emanating from the big ten today, and then we'll talk about some of the other ones as well. That certainly have tongues wagging. And later in the program, we'll talk to Paul Levine a as questions have been raised this surprise. Since, power five schools will not disclose or very few will disclose. Real numbers. We'll talk a little bit later in the program. And yes. We mentioned this is the first Thursday night of the football season Central Arkansas and UAB we've covered that pretty extensively. And we have hit the other side the game as well. We had the South Alabama coach on the other night. Southern Miss, coach joins US momentarily. As two big games. One Arkansas team to Alabama teams. In one from Mississippi. It is a little bit different. I might add than your normal first Thursday night of this season we've had. In Array of SEC Games in the past and usually pretty meaty game tools, it a couple of years ago. He had a big game with Ohio state I believe that at Indiana that was two or three years ago. Tonight, those are your choices and the weekend is a little bit thin gets gets better on Monday Labor Day would be why you and navy. So what what would be doing here? Today we'll be talking to a number of guests including the head coach at southern Miss, I mentioned a Paula Levine. CONROE GARRA joins US always interesting to get connor's take. And we'll find out about the gators. As well. But I your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, zero, eight, five, and Patrick, starts us off where one of those games will be played in. Hattiesburg Patrick. Paul. Go to the game tonight to deal reporting for off your radio station. Really. How how long have you been doing that? Well, I've been doing radio since I've been in college this first hear working for the US and radio stations. That'd be awesome. Building regulations. That's a that'll be pretty exciting. Oh Man I'm Giddy as a schoolgirl Paul. But I was calling you. We can talk the southern Miss Game, but I WANNA I WANNA get your your your perspective on how Alabama Nick Sabin. He's kept such tight hold on his guys to not off down to the season where Lsu Vanderbilt, and now even Georgia with nate. Jamie Newman had kind of a problem with guys opting out. You think it's a Nick Sabin a coaching thing just to players thing. Yeah I mean I i. think there had been some talk that he would lose a player too but somehow I think some of it depends on circumstances. I. Don't understand why Newman opted out. I really I mean I think everyone has their theory. Maybe he wasn't going to be the starter lsu's had some more interesting cases I believe but ultimately I think I think it's a personal choice. I don't think the head coach here in any circumstances going to be the overriding factor I think it's whether you have you know maybe children maybe family considerations underlying conditions I've I've heard countless stories I haven't heard anyone say I'm just not really happy in this program. Well, thank you all I'll I'll try to get some. Good story put together for the for the night and you take sometime I would love to good luck I'm really I'll be thinking you all night and congratulations Patrick on on a big game. Did I really appreciate it. Let's go to pat up next in Georgia. Hey, pat. Hey Paul thanks lesson Jamie Newman, my sources and they are relied. Indicate he got off on the wrong foot with Bonk can. And he's having trouble with the offense right now. So that's threes and he's opting out now. In my opinion, the impact that's going to have on Georgia is we're probably GONNA were likely. To end up seven and three. And because the quarterback situation and everything else this year. WE'RE GONNA lose Alabama with his offered and we'll. Tell You well, I love your confidence or Pat you're all in on on the dogs I can tell. Well I'm a little. Bit. At what Jamie Newman has done. is he allowed to come back next year Georgia or has he opted out altogether and left team you know I really first of all, I don't know why he would come back. But I don't know the a particular is on that. I'm assuming once you opt out. You're done I mean I've heard we've heard some cases where players I'm opting out and coming back next year but but in his particular situation being a senior I, I, can't imagine why he would come back. Well good riddance to him as far as I'm concerned of the other problem is. Why Georgia having so much trouble with their quarterback situation over a long period of time, we get him and we can't keep them. Well. I, mean come on come on I. Mean you go back and look at every situation You start with Easson he gets hurt and from crumbs in, and then fields comes in and and quite frankly cannot supplant from I. Mean You know that store your Georgia Fan so It's a maybe a generalization to say that Georgia's can't keep quarterbacks I mean you can't keep quarterbacks when you have talented quarterbacks and somebody else's in that position young people want to play they don't want to sit around. No you're you're absolutely right and I'm just I'm just benching a little bit and and I thank you very much for that. but I do think that instead of going nine one. This year because of the deaths in the quarterback situation, we are more likely than not to go seven free listen you got Knicks at Auburn and then you've got Florida's quarterback. Head I agree. But I talked to one thing Georgia had who was and and. It's going to be a broken record. We haven't even started the season yet depth really matters and it matters mostly at that position because if you if Georgia ends up losing daniels now for whatever reason yeah. The the talent, there's talent behind him. But. It's towel without any experience at the college level. Absolutely Paul Anyway. Thanks for. Okay. Thank you. Yeah I. Tell you what I love Georgia fans right there. read doggies. Hey. Why don't you put on an Alabama hat? Not some teeth out hook to back in your mouth and root for them. That is the worse call. Your sources suck. The reason he's opting now he's he wasn't get enough snaps in prices because he's not better than JT, dangerous? That's the reason he's opting out. You know if you're not, if you're not the best player on the field, you're not apply. So for you to call them in here in have that crappy call you know we've never kicked quarterbacks were running back university pat look how many running back we put the. Phone. That's just a terrible call to our south of Athens. Stay down there. There's no way in Georgia they're gonNA lose three games. We're going to feed our families and we're probably eleven so pass. State got up that call totally pissed me off. Coach Dog. But I tell you what I feel better that we did that to you. He was indeed Gab North Carolina a few good afternoon. Hello Paul, how are you today? We are doing great. I'm feeling great. You know I've playing as you know about our golf group about seventy eighty of us and it's forty playing yesterday. Pretty Strong smattering of them were big ten graduates. And they're kind of under their breath in the eastern conference falls on its face like the big ten has. But I have a totally different opinion I think it's GonNa work out. I'm prayerful hopeful of that. And for the record I. Really believe that the East side of the southeastern conference. Is really in a position to make a statement I I don't see a huge difference in any of the four top. Teams in the East. Unlike the way. S. That has Alabama. At one point she had to thank Texas A&M before they got their new schedule, but it's Alabama and the rest of the way. But in the east, you can build a pretty good case for four teams under certain circumstances making a strong statement to win the East it may be a sea change going on Paul because things don't stay the same forever. What you say well, I think this this could be a one-off, but but I think I think. You look at the rankings and you have about. Three or four West teams that are contenders in the top ten or fifteen and two we'll know no lot. I think there's there's another point I really like to make this. I really liked the idea of playing Tan Conference Games for your season. And that would leave you enough room to have an expanded playoff with the better teams from the other conferences. Don't let a hangover slow you down fight it with goodies hangover pain relief at the speed of powder. Good hangovers. The first hangover offering from an analgesics brand temporarily relieves minor pains due to hangover headache and even handles muscle aches. Hangover comes and tasty berry citrus boost flavor and includes about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee to help restore mental alertness when experiencing fatigue drowsiness associated with the hangover simply toss it back or mix with water juice. It's that easy goodies hangover real medicine for real hangovers available on Amazon in Walmart and your local convenience store. I really think that that gives you more meaningful number because you played a better cross section of the themes in your in your conference. Hugh you're smart guy. I know because we've had many conversations. You're you're you're forgetting the most important thing that you're that that would change if you went back to ten game. Yeah the playoff can easily be expanded but that can be that can be done with the current system. You're you're what you're losing. If you do what you suggest key inventory inventory of television networks who need games and more games every weekend, you can't spread you can't fill the season up with only ten games. Well. The reality is I'm not sure how much television market there is for Alabama Plan Sisters of the pool well. you appreciate the call, but you would be you'll be amazed the amount of money that some companies are willing to spend on television packages these days. Even for even for bad games. We'll take a break mortar com more of your phone calls and we are coming back after this. You're listening to Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we mentioned. Have coach. J. hops on from. Southern. Miss says they get ready to open the season tonight. Against South, we had that coach on the other day and coach ops in joins us right hops and joins US right now coach. Thank you for making time I know it has to be a pretty. Exciting I'm down in Hattiesburg, couple hours away from the opener good afternoon. This fall. So here's a season. A lot of people wondered if we'd ever get here, this is the first Thursday night we have a couple of games on the docket. Just describe your your thoughts and your team starts as I'm sure everyone is excited and somewhat bewildered about the build up to the two thousand twenty season. Yet it's better that I. It's been it's been journey last five or six months. But again, I think everybody's excited to to kick off the season and you know. GUYS, credit players coaches everybody's. Working extremely hard and everybody's battle to a lot of adverse to get to this point and. We just like to think we're done a little bit. Of get this country going again and I think everybody wants to get a little football in and. We're blessed with opportunity to open it up with first game on. TV I I know I know that. All. This most of this is water under the bridge but There have been so many changes. When when you grow up and when I grew up in your pocket schedule. It's hard to figure out who's playing who anymore but But but but I'm sure that's something the coaches have to deal with, and as you said, the most important thing is the game but what has What has the last couple of months been like. Well, it's been tough because you know when when you start all. missed. All progams missed spring training, and then you went through which kids want around June You know you start a little volunteer phase which still didn't have one hundred percent participation times it was probably Sixty percent or so and then you got into your you mandatory periods which were mid July. So you know we came through that, and then there's the testing that that time you we would have guys out and you might have at times ten to fifteen, even twenty guys out, and then you gradually get some back and then you then another wave of guys that be out. So there you have to manage to a lot of different adversities, false football program it times you know you I think at the beginning of our camp, we had both offense of line units out. And and then we've got them back right at the beginning. So when you talk and we only have the two week period before camp started. So we were we were first up with the first game. So we manage to a lot of that and we had to kind of get our team in camp and you know you have a few guys out and you might get some guys back. So just managing to all, that was was an adventure but I have to give a lot of credit drop players and coaches I. We did a fantastic job of managing. They got kids have worked extremely hard coaches also, and we're blessed to get us to this point with obscenity to kick off and play college football tonight. coachee played the game at the highest level. You've now been a head coach or a couple of places you've been all over. And I know that there's this axiom in college football that you see the most improvement from week one to week two. But I'm wondering what you're concerned about tonight because I would think some very basic fundamental things may be off a just based on what you just got through saying what other coaches have said. I think it's going to be interesting to watch tonight. It really will be I. think that's I think that's GonNa be the we won't know until after this first week. Exactly. Where everybody is but I can say you know. As far as the football coach. And as far as football coach at southern miss been really proud of what I guy. Sacrifices they've made. I think that's an an open and honest question We'll find out in this first week as far as you know, what? What is the north take two or three weeks to get into a awful routine or is it something that we just south right in? Execution Football we'd like to see. As a football coach, there's a lot that goes into preparing a football team that a lot of people don't understand. So We'll find out tonight I. Think. The first. Game last week you know I think they traveled without a couple of long staffers that that's certainly a closer football program. Bill you know those are things. I think he can everything but I have to battle through this year. But you know the great thing is everybody's got in the same boat as I got situation. So we're going to do best and and. Make sure that southern this week. We're prepared. A players. Originally ready to play every week coach I know you can only control on the field, but but I mitch but you said it earlier about how we need football what will your stands look like tonight based on the the protocol. Fall, they were twenty five percents is what we're we're. We're hoping to get in tonight. So you know certainly will be that will be different environment to you know when you come out of the tunnel, they get the the there won't be the pageantry that That most of the kids are are used to, but I think you know the beautiful things we get to play football. I think just the fact that. These young men get to go out do they love to do? It's a true blasting and Yeah, we're. We're we're looking forward to that. And hopefully, we can give not only. People at southern is but people around the country something to get excited about and finally I do want to ask you because. Similar that theme but you know there's been so much argument about college football and I think those of us who live in the south maybe understand the importance of it more than others. I think that's self explanatory. But but I'm somebody who grew up in Mississippi played football in Mississippi now, coaches and southern. It's your apartment speaking and I need some favors when you're singing in the shower, just try going up a key. You're trying to be an alto when really era soprano Oh and if you could bundle your renters in car insurance with Geico it's easy to do online and we could save money and then you read your murder mysteries at night. Could you read out loud but? Skip the murder parts because I get scared GYCO for bundling made easy go to GEICO DOT COM today. Mississippi What's it like tonight mean to you your family and your and your program. Well, it's again it's a football coast. The one thing I think I've been doing it almost thirty years, Paul, you know. We're we're put on this planet we're blessed to have opportunity to mentor and coach young men. So to me it's really about. Being there and allow these young men to go out and and do they love to do they want. We basically. We've had team meetings and. All our guys we we basically said, what do you WanNa do and all that guys. they stood up and they said they won't play you know and so that's our job is coaches if you players WanNa play. Our jobs to get them ready and You know that's that's That's as far as I'm concerned at southern Miss I to do with my players wanted to. And that's something I. Know It's in their heart they wanted to do so. And when they gave me that word I said well, let's go and that's that's the hard and and think our young men have done that. So it's it's it's a special thing and I'm sure Everybody, not only our players and coaches but everybody around is looking for tonight and kicking off the college football season. Coach. We are too. We will be watching at eight o'clock a your time. So all the bass. And I would imagine. You've had big crowds in some big games that you played in before both in the stands and on television but tonight might be the biggest all the best we hope to talk to you again soon. Habits. Coach hops in from the University of Southern Miss. We'll take a break appreciate him coming on a couple of hours before the game and of we will also go back to your phone calls in just a moment you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We. Welcome you back. Great conversation coach. Let's get to the calls. Tim is up next I. Hate Him good afternoon. Paw. To show yesterday, I'm not sure if it was a caller one speakers but they said something that me think they're saying like what they're talking about like how you have a physician group can get infected had one person I was like. A thing that makes a lot of fun. So I was wondering what happened like it's a hypothetical. How would the committee look at you know a team like? Alabama Clemson, let's say like you know Cova takes out a position group like the offense align and they lose to like A. A rinky dink pin they take that into consideration or just say a law office a lot. I think Tim. They would have to take it into consideration. In the past, the committee has often talked about injuries and I do think they've shown some benevolence in that regard, but but I I, think it was a one off. Let's say. Georgia goes in and Beats Alabama. And is undefeated and then trips up against. You name it South Carolina Kentucky. someone else that you wouldn't have expected them to lose to then because of that circumstance and I I think you'd have to take that in consideration. Okay. Thanks speech thanking a good question and it's one of those quite frankly we have no idea. Shannon in Georgia always good to have you back on the show good afternoon Shannon. Public Steve. McCall. You Bet. I wanted talk about the Jamie Newman situation. Pat From Georgia what he had to say earlier I was offended by that honestly I, think that. law I'm disappointed that newman opted out. I. Think you've gotTa look at things and I'm struggling with this fall to look at things from other people's perspective I think in our climate we have to do that now and I'm trying to do a better job of that. And for Jamie he had been so high. I know policy was talking real about all the preseason hyphen from what I was reading of assets. He was struggling a little bit offensive, little sloppy quarterback playing really at in the day I. Don't think he had anywhere to go down. If that makes sense policy comes out and he's not the starter it's going to hurt his status. If he struggles in image game is going to hurt his draft status and where he is right now he's probably top fifty top-35 pick and I'm sure some agent was in his ear telling them or someone who is in his inner telling them. You're just GonNa hurt yourself you play the season. Yeah and and if you look at it, if he has an average season, his stock could go down and right now he's out of sight out of mind he would just be one of many who opted out and. It probably won't hurt him I think on the other hand had a chance to help himself, but it sounds very calculated and you're There's an agent somewhere offstage. In the same thing I want to say is you know Kirby takes a lot of flack. For his recruiting at the quarterback position. But but I think if you step back and look at this when he brought in jt Daniels is highly recruited transfer from from southern cal. Don't you think that Kirby saw some handwriting on the wall. That there was a possibility. That maybe newman wasn't gonNA. Stay with the team. He wasn't performance to a wildly bring a five star because he's got another five star group committed. Signed the holiday claims kid out of Florida Carson Beck. Four well Shannon. He knew one thing for certain by bringing Daniels in, he was going to lose someone. I don't know if you knew you know Paul. That's. How? I was always told when I was playing and coaching pressure bursts pipes. You. Understand that. Yeah. So one kid's GonNa rise to the top one kid may fall away I don't hold it against Jaime he's protecting his career. He's doing the best thing for him and and there's nothing wrong with that and and the best thing for Jordan's programas for Kirby to have the next man up mentality I really think though Paul from what I'm understanding is d one Mathis Kid. Is. Making I. Yeah. I've read the same thing i. I frankly don't think it's a big deal. It's only a big deal if Georgia gets decimated in the quarterback. If you have a calamity of events occur injury coded, and then you needed somebody who is cammy there's no question Jamie Newman was capable but I'll never forget I, sat with mark correct at the superdome in. January and he's right there he's a he's the best quarterback in the SEC in Jamie. Newman was flying primarily on hype nobody real. I saw him play a little bit wake forest against good teams and he really wasn't very good. He's he's just an athletic quarterback in you know I think a system built around in the wake forest, but you know going back to the Dewan Mathis situation that kid. Flip, from Ohio, state when just two fields transferred up right came a brain tumor last year and he's been impressive from what I understand. So I think whatever happens Kirby's got enough town that quarterback room that it's going to be a successful year and I have no your wishes for Jamie name and I hope the best form I. think he just made a calculated business decision and that's my thing where you're right and I don't think anybody in America knows what it's like to lose. Five five-star quarterbacks more than curb smart. He's got stars all over the place. Now, we're once in his program Allen is in did you know Geico's now offering an extra fifteen percent on car and motorcycle policies? That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? 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Newman up now and The Sky Fall in Georgia and I, agree with what you just said. He has taken a snap yet. He hasn't I mean he's just riding on. Pipe and media and I also think that J. T. dangles is giving them a run for his money. At, the decision I mean this kid was highly recruited even though he dropped down to the two thousand, eighteen fighters he was behind Trevor Lawrence injustice fields. Let's face it. That's good.

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"Dead, more time to listen to yours, truly by going to shell and getting things done at once I. Fill up with Shell v power plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally, snack up to save even more at the pump make the most of the stop you need to make with Shell. Pride. Passion and pattern three of college football leaves here the. Paul Finebaum show our three podcast. Secondhand the show is live. We are one hour away from getting some indicator. From the pack twelve remember they shut down on August eleventh they're expected to come back today. But when we talked about that issue with Jon Wilner in the very first hour Jeremy Pruitt or contract extension, we'll talk about the dogs in a couple of minutes as we get ready for the first weekend of college football in the. Sec let's check in with Felicia who is in Fayetteville good afternoon salacious. All thanks for taking my call. there was a gentleman, the ask a question as you're also interested in why they're having coaches where math even when all the other players have been tested when this first came out, it was related to age that the coaches or in the age range where they would be greater risks in Asia, the players. There's also. The issue. Of. That that, some of the players may be a little bit. You know positive before the tasks are done. How many times a week? So that's is the rationale behind it and is age of the coaches in SOCI- to keep them safer than they do the players. I think as well. Felicia it does transmit a positive image for fans. If they see a car Nick Sabin wearing a mask around a bunch of people maybe they will to. Yeah absolutely. It is something we need to do more of in our. Country because it does play a part in not. Well. Thank you for sharing that I really appreciate it, and it's always good to hear from you Greg. Is Up next. Hey, Greg, you're on the air. Hey Paul. Did New Jackson Mississippi. I. I I'm Colin I love your show I. Listen To you and watch your lot. Thank you greg. And I really respect your opinion and how you come off. Paul saying I have a lot to say those short amount of time. But I really respect how you come up and how you display your opinion. I'm a real big college football fan sec like that's my cream I. Love. I hear the FCC fans now support the BLACKHEAD, all black kids that play all these SEC teams. Howdy I'm not giving us. Now, we come Jeff I. I have friends that played Lsu and. MISSISSIPPI STATE, go down a list of schools and they look when they go to these schools they so love people in these expand and they're they come to your school have a political issue of probably just normal abuse and treatment. We're not saying we're perfect right for people. We're not saying we just want to normal treatment and they don't get on board supporters. We're not asking for just unfair but we come through your cool. We can easily just say we're GONNA, go ABC you and just deal with this we'll do they. 'cause I have a bigger profile you have more money. So we do support you got. and. All we ask them to support that. I wanted to support a fact of all to the issue is an obvious issue is not even at difficult issues so he would see you understand. So I'm I gonNA blatantly overlooked effective maybe a lot of people are acting showing their real crew phillies maybe all real racist, but I am. Saying I am a cookie fame. But maybe I? Don't think anything except that we can. Go Out and save it. You know. So that's how you wa, that's who you are who really if they deal with it, but I want to save your food and if you don't want to respect our coach who we are so want us to play why you want the player is you'll like us we have problems on quarter we support you I have wife or he wouldn't be white food when they have a problem I'll have political dispose all my friends off your right. Now I'm back are lifted something immoral or something like that. Well normalized. Almost supportive. So that's all I'm saying is why are you saying the main ones? All black young means or their team black? We're that program you ain't got back all people. So we all have our every you'll your support of soup I just feel slighted by the fourth. The fourth way is raring. We flipped. Come Home Shopping Lou come. That's all I want to say. Thank you greg really appreciate you calling in how about mark of next in Tennessee hello mark. Okay mark you're on the air. This Jason on. Sorry well Jason but go ahead. We'll. Give you. What you think about this, Dion Sanders and his coaching staff Jackson State. It's interesting because. This. Is One of the most significant hires We've seen for a historic black school and I think you know based on what we just heard from that other caller. I think some A. Player's going to gravitate I. Know I know he picked up a player from in State yesterday and? I think Dion Sanders is going to attract players that normally would not have considered going. To. School. And I think that's great I really do. I'm a live over here close North Alad you and A. Play I guess they're in the same conference and I thought it was very interesting to get Terrell. Owens. In a Warren Sapp. Well, you know the one thing about. I mean he can. My. Only concern about. How committed he'll be after. After the cameras leave but. But Hey. It's a really good. It's a great place a tradition down there and not a lot but enough and I could see him getting into. That's good. I've covered that that lay before Do you think it's A. Stepping stone. Into coach Yeah. Steppingstone Dion says that he'll be there his entire career I'll be more than happy to make a wager but. There were some people that want to be on at Florida state last year. So. I. Think if he does well, he could become a much-desired coach I mean we we have to see I mean I all he has to be able to show that he knows. not only the game but had a coach college. He's married A. Girl the attention that's how I. Listen, we had the Jackson state interim coach on a couple of weeks ago and you certainly a nice guy but. You know you say you say Dion Sanders is on is coming up in a minute people are going to pay very close attention. Thank you and. We've seen some of that in basketball where some some young players are saying you know what I want to play for historic black school I think. I think because of the conversation in the country you may see a little bit more of this. Maybe I'm not saying you're going to see a lot of players, but in basketball it, it it it mattered one player basketball. It makes a lot more matters a lot more than a player in football and and I'm all for it early in my career I. I, covered grambling. Times and I. got a really good education into the tradition of of that of that I was covering should be valley I want with coach Robinson Eddie Robinson over to one day to Mississippi Valley Yeah. But this is a really good is a really good leak and. Produce some unbelievable talent Jerry Rice just for just to start. Let's take a break and we have a lot to do on this program. We appreciate you all being here on a very busy day where we going GonNa talk a little about Georgia bulldogs coming up here in a second, which what's up with a quarterback situation and what's up with some of their players trying to go elsewhere. My Griffith from the Atlanta Journal Constitution he will join US next. Soon listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we are back here and let's talk about the Georgia bulldogs as. Their game might not be that difficult this weekend in Fayetteville but what about the quarterback situation? It was about a week ago and my griffiths joined this with his feeling about who should be the star Michael rejoins us a number of issues to discuss Mike. Always great to have you on. Let's let's start with the Cuban situation. What are you here? Yeah you gotTa Be Dorm Math Paul I mean of jt Daniels still isn't cleared this week. I mean really last week. If he wasn't cleared, you gotTA prepare with who you've got doin', Mathis Jt Daniels, very different style quarterbacks. So I think you're gonNA see Dwan this under center maybe some Carson back maybe some Stetson Bennett up but likely one mathis in quite a story book start. This will be Paul. When you look at Guan's background the brain surgery the flipped from Ohio state I mean it really is something else away way this is laid out. Mike, let's let's take a deeper dive into this Georgia season everyone knows. Maybe, not everyone but some of us to have been around those this. It has been forty years ago since Georgia last won a national championship dogs have come close There's so much conversation about that was curb smart as he faces a season where the media who voted thinks Florida is going to be the SEC champion I know you don't agree. Well, you know it's interesting. You Know Florida and Tennessee, no that stat about the one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty championship as well as anybody it's been forty long years in and actually Paul George is going to break out some special uniforms for this game against Arkansas they're going to try and Harkin the ghost of Herschel Walker going back to the sixteen. Fifteen Georgia win over Tennessee that started the nine thousand, nine, hundred, eighty national championship season for the bulldogs when Herschel Walker ran over billy based one of the greatest Georgia memories ever course Herschel went onto. This incredible career Rush Rover Five, thousand yard I mean think about Herschel Walker, just a second let me just throw back to the old folks this guy, six, one to twenty two, he was running the ten, two, hundred meters. He's faster than anybody on the current Georgia football team obviously some great things pro record twenty, four, hundred yards in the US f. l. in hersal still looking like he could play the game alternate fighting the Bob sled stuff I mean such a storybook career for Herschel Walker commemorate it red. Pants. White Jerseys at razorback stadium on Saturday. Hard to know which teams which. Griffey ride It is an amazing memory to see that the only been forty years. We were both. You may not have been born yet. Let me talk to you about something that has. Speaking Tennessee? The Kate may situation remains a topic of conversation. Otis research has been a topic of conversation. Now, these are two young men who left Georgia to go to Tennessee in almost respectfully, and we have heard nothing but Angst, and anxiety from fans lately what do you know about those two situations? Yeah understandable. You know both these guys WanNa. Play football point understand that the problem is that the eighty s and the president's from the SEC schools voted on this rule I mean every year they go down to Destin they gather they talk. They make rules they make denims to rules. This rule was last adjusted in twenty eighteen just just two years ago, and they all agreed that, hey, if you transfer within the league, you gotta sit out for a season unless there's a postseason ban involved right? There's a provision for that. None of those provisions apply decayed maze oaths or or Joey. Gatewood. The Auburn quarterback that wants to play Kentucky this year and so great sankey is merely upholding the role that. His ADP's his presidents voted on in Dustin Florida and the sad part is or maybe the unfortunate part is I think in January, we're GonNa see this passage of the one year transfer rule where kids have that ability to transfer without sitting out a year but that's not gonNA happen till January. So it'll be interesting to see if Greg Sankey in the SEC make some special provisions and if so were they need to get the voted the president's in the. To change their own rule that they voted on just in two thousand eighteen. Now, I know some fans have blamed Kirby smart. He's an easy target here is. I know the rules rules or anything he can do or is he? Is he overruled by the rule? Kirby Smart said yesterday that he doesn't have control of it only said, he has supported guys that have gone to schools with an opportunity to to play right away I know they'd got divided Wilson Down there central Florida right now it's really hard to know who said what Georgia says they can't reveal a lot of the details. You Know Kirby lot bigger fish to fry than worrying about came as right now or Otis reese I mean. He's got this quarterback situation Paul and there's some real questions about where this George offense is going to go. If they're going to win a national title, you know they're going to need to see some things happening quarterback. I'm. Dwan Mathis you talked about earlier this guy's raw. They're going to be somewhat limited against Arkansas. No you ought to be good enough to beat them but you know this guy that was once committed to the Ohio state and. If it wasn't for Justin fields transferring to Ohio state, we have a completely different script here was when Justin fields started talking with Dwayne Haskins that doin mathis flipped and said, you know what? I'm going to go to Georgia and then he has that brain surgery may twenty third and we think well this guy's he's not going to play college football but here we are sixteen months later and doin verges starting and we all sit back and wonder could he be the guy or is the guy waiting in the wings in the form of JT Daniels? That's a completely other story. Let's let's talk about the schedule and the gators because alluded to it briefly that the media voted Florida to win the. East. Whatever that means doesn't mean much but the gators, the gators are obviously the that key game as always. On the Georgia schedule which begins this weekend and then it gets. Harder. With Auburn and Tennessee the next two weeks then at Alabama at Kentucky Florida on the seventh. At Missouri State at South Carolina and Vanderbilt. Your thoughts on on the dogs and what lies ahead for them. In spite of everything you've just got through saying about the quarterback situation. This is a year you know we talk about traditions starting out the year for Georgia and celebrate knows uniforms. But this is a year where tradition could cost them. You Know Georgia's designated home game. This year is Florida but as of now, they're playing that game in Jacksonville and I still think plan on the roads a little bit of a hurdle. The home team doesn't have all the the crowd and all that. But when you've got to fly somewhere and you've got to stay the night I, mean, that's just a bit more on. You then staying in the comforts of the same home hotel and in the familiarity and this is a year. Now we're Georgia really only has four home games because one of their home games is in Jacksonville. Conversely, Florida has five home games plus they get to play Georgia in Jacksonville something to look for I wonder if the gators will bus over the day of the game only being seventy miles away or will they lost the night before but could that little advantage make a difference? You would hope not you you would think not but. As E. season where Georgia's got four very difficult games leading up to a Paul Listen. You don't the margin for error that you had with Jake Brown, love him or hate him. The guy was a third year quarterback to could make a lot of things right at the line of scrimmage but now he's gone. So when you play the tennis in the Kentucky's in the Auburn's, you don't have the margin for error that you had with an experienced quarterback Alabama you better bring your best game to Tuscaloosa you won't win that game. One of those home games, the dogs have I think is against Dander Belt I mean Mike I understand where you're coming from. But some would construe you is already making excuses in case the dogs don't win. Now. I'm just laying it out for you. I don't even know Vanderbilt team by the end of November. They have so many guys opting out in the way Kobe crisis is gone. I. Mean Think about it. If you're vanderbilt and you haven't won a game yet, what's the motivation to come back for another season? It's certainly not the way your administration treat you with facilities that the hand you and you're the priority that they make you. So I'm concerned about Vanderbilt you think I'm not joking I'm concerned about vanderbilt finishing the season but no not excuses. I'm just saying if Georgia had their druthers, they would much rather have a backloaded scheduled in. Schedule because this offense I don't WanNa say it's keystone cops but look jt Daniels is a talented Guy Right? He had three three, hundred yard games his freshman year with the TROJANS. Now he had three different guys calling plays it didn't go well, they were five and six I get it but he started last year with almost three hundred yards in the first half well. Against Fresno State and for that ACL, this is a guy and I'll say this about transfers, Paul because a lot of people say well, so good wedding he stayed there. You know what? The last three heisman trophy winners transfers the three finalists for the heisman trophy last year transfers sometimes you get it right? The second time jt Daniels, had the opportunity to. Handpick Todd Monk in the Georgia offense coordinator and todd can had the opportunity to hand pig jt Daniels. So we have to see when and how this George offense comes together unless want mathis goes out there and and he pips them inputs on an incredible performance in six six to ten he runs ten, eight hundred and he cancelling it downfield pretty far. My enough. You voted in the SEC media poll but how would you cash your vote in the SEC? I have stained I preferred to say objective on this I did not vote I would've picked George Win East but not not because I think they're that much I just don't think Florida's that I look at Florida and I understand maybe these other people like their uniforms or something I don't know cal Trask is coming back. There's some continuity with Dan Moan and in in Kyle Trask, but he lost what three or four senior receivers he lost his starting tailback they they return their offensive lying, but their offensive line was lousy. They had negative rushing yards through three quarters against Georgia last year and I'm not sure why I would think that Florida's going to do any more this year. Now they're talented they're getting better but I just don't see it in Florida. So. It's not that I'm picking Georgia because they're just head and shoulders especially again with this offense in this front-loaded schedule, it's because I'm not convinced Florida is going to be that much better than they were a year ago. Asked and answered as they say in court Mike Thank you all to talk to you again very very soon. If hopefully, next week appreciate the time as always. Appreciate it Paul Thank you. Great stuff you got it might Mike My Griffiths was the Zinger at the end to the the gators heather dentists in about an hour on what the PAC twelve could be doing today they may be coming back. We are going to get back to your calls as well. Right after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And Welcome back here Thursday afternoon and Augie is in New Orleans though what's up Augie? Paul, I did not know that you checked up on your caller. So if you don't hear from folks in a while, what do you send out a search party or an eight AP B. or below or above? Okay be on the lookout. A Bolo was something you'd through you know through it somebody and wrapped around her hits. Number six most influential person in the SEC. Do you take your responsibility seriously? Paul. Yeah. I. Kind of chuckled when when I read that the other day but. I take. I take this show. seriously. I. Don't know about that. But I do do take this one very seriously. Well I think he wanted to cut by some of the people that were in front of you. So I think you're at least you should be behind saving I. Don't have any doubt about that There you go. I'm sucking up but how do you plan on exercising your power in the interest of your fan base? augie I don't want to sound like a politician here, but to me, this program is really based and built on fans that was the genesis of the idea to take a local show and. Put it here, and there was a lot of a lot of a lot of backlash at first because of where I. Previously lived but I think, I think we've succeeded. We're seven years in now and Or six years in excuse me and I think this program is embodiment of SEC fan. So I I think the one thing I can do the only thing I can do to screw it up getting the way. Well, you know a lot of your old followers hate people like me I'm interloper and an in coacher. So there you go but you know yesterday I do have Something to criticize you one. You didn't develop the Washer Dryer refrigerator conversation with Jeff because I'm in need of replacements for all. I was waiting for a recommendation. Other than Samsung, do not buy. Samsung terrible. When I was when I was a kid. Think. We used to go down to sears and Roebuck and whatever and get the my mother would say walk in the Kenmore remember the Kenmore refrigerator more my mother would walk in and say, what do you have on sale I? Mean that's I. Never went to a store with my mother would that wasn't the first question? Remember Montgomery worked Oh. Yeah. I do remember we're Montgomery Ward. That's that is going way back. We'll what's with all the Canadians calling in and compensating US domestic issues. What's about I? Mean they got Justin Trudeau don't they have enough to talk about Earl Second though. We'll see this one screws up the country as much as Pierre did. Paul. Wasn't Pierre Trudeau, though that dated. Yes Mick Jagger's wife or ex wife yes bianca. Yeah. Sure Right I bet you. I'm in those about that. He did. He did give my my appreciation on that I don't think I. Don't think. Pierre. Has Been Able to top that one. But nobody can top Silvio Berlusconi in his bunker parties. This guys like seven-year-old years old partying with nineteen twenty, twenty, one year old girls I mean Jeez he's the Prime Minister of Italy. The. Mole. Yeah. The who was it Sarkozy One of the French president's married a supermodel but. But he was young I mean the guy was only like fifty he wasn't eighty-five. Now. More Code has wife to fifty five. You're right he went to. The new President Francis went the opposite direction. But Paul I think your last caller. Guest, he was talking about he worried about Vanik Dandy finishing the season. Did they finish last? they finished any season in recent years. which brings me to a topic that you don't like to talk about. But Hey, you're the most influential man in the SEC which coach is on their short has the shortest shelf life right now. To the must shaft is it mason or do they just mason because just terrible I don't know if Vanderbilt. Cares enough about football to make a change. So who do you think is the guy that's got the most to worry about about this season. considering that week of the season really is. I think I. Think the answer is nobody. And because I don't think unless we see just just something disastrous that there will be an appetite primarily to make a change or make a pay especially pay. The determination fee, the buyout, and that's really the issue with much. Yep. He still has significant buyout. I'm an mentioned a minute ago on the air now. Hey good afternoon Paul. You'd afternoon you know to to comment on argues thing in your comments if I'm not mistaken that thing was hitting on Pierre's wise long before Bianca. I. Think. That's the way the story goes. Yeah Well I. I think when you get to Mick Jagger mean I've read the Keith Richards Book. There was a lot of that going around. Okay. Just. A hell of a book to. Stick Book To. you know about the Washer and dryer refrigerator and that kind of thing I've been hearing a lot of commentary about how well they're Konomi is now I've had a great year. This is one of the better years for the economy being down on working class people, but it's not because the economy is so great is because Steph is breaking. And people are stuck at home and and just having to do what they have to your and the shortage of the shortage of washers and dryers and refrigerators says nothing to do with the economy it has everything to do with Cova. Plants shut down. And all the all the manufacturing was down. We're having a tough time right now trying to to put to put together enough systems to to you know to to go in all in houses, and it's because of the production was shut down nothing to do with the economy and I will take. A. Some issues with some stuff for her yesterday. I mean I was listening to caller talking about Jim be in the franchise quarterback to hell with that. I, don't call Jim being in any meetings if if I was going say. Who was your franchise quarterback? Who did you live on the most and was paid and you know who I'm talking about? He was Mr Four o'clock. Mr Pat Smith. And and he was always there and Yeah we'LL WE'LL PAT or Pat He now is hosting the midday show with. In Birmingham I'm Pat Pat Smith. who was the producer of the show for twenty some odd years. He created the show he? He's the one that came up with the idea. And it was his was his idea to making a more than a local show. I thought it was insane to anybody outside of Birmingham whatever listen. Out of all the Times you prior to the SEC network I never saw you without pat or pat without you. y'All were a team and and you were a of a team and when it comes to the most influential man in the Sec Mike's live hired that guy i. He hired that guy and ESPN hired you because if they didn't, you know what they going to compete against you and you were a mountain of boulders that they could not go through they had to go around. And that's not second up. That's just talent like it is those the facts and then the the relationship with year Mike's live is what it is and it's because you're good at what you do and you include the fans and I think he respected you mentally. And also her Jim mentioned something yesterday that I've never heard before he said he was depressed what the hell with that comment to he was dammed delusional. That's what he was. You have a good thing for illegal. We are going to take a break here on On, this program it's Thursday and heather dentists. In the next hour I'm just reading what the CUE cards so. We're coming right back. Listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. elmo. Paul. Mogi Him. Well I'm not shut am but I'm. I'm glad to hear always good to hear from me. I heard all these all stars calling today's. Drop in Salo. Appreciate you straightening out Matt from. Jack in the box yesterday I've been listening to Manchester call this show for four years talking shade. About a Stupid questions and all that sick of it. I have I keep up with some of your comments. You're quite a Paul's that. Everyday Yeah? Usually the first call of the day. Now guy originally called in and said, he didn't know who russ pro was, and here's a guy living in Valdosta. That's only fifty miles from altri Donahue Ross is this guy's? This. Guy Needs to do some. You know some background or whatever the hell but anyway. Let. Me Just get a brief complaint out of the white please. I hate to screening. Anybody and everybody can get on. I don't know why why. That is the case. Well. Let me Let me let me say this to you. We we had someone who did that for for a long time on the show, and that person is a way for the time being. So it is a little bit different i. hear you I I know exactly what you're talking about. And start talking about really good caller. Let's let's try to find Jimmy from. Chicago yeah. I don't know where Jimi Jimi was a regular he has been missing mean. Too many people calling in here talking nothing. Well, let me ask you a question themselves. What was the kind of like What was the first time you've called it? Was the first time you call it the show. Pardon will what year was your first year calling the show? Well I have no idea all can you remember back there I really don't remember a time on the show where you weren't calling. Well maybe I need to call again like legend was talking about. But Let me get to what I want to talk about. There's a lot of people calling in today and they're jumping up and down about SEC football and you know it's GonNa be like the good old days. No, it's not. They haven't done a lot of practice. It's going to be shocking to a lot of people really how it all goes down. And you you've tried to tell people back. And got those Cole Cubelic is trying to tell people that. You know most people that are real. No that that the that the football that we're going to Saratov going to be kind of shocking. It's going to be unreal. And that's chiefly my complaint about the whole this whole upcoming Susan Ball and it. Kinda like my attitude about baseball and basketball I've got admit the NFL football has been very, very good I agree. That consists. I. Can sustain myself on that definitely till the end of the year. But The problem for me overall is there's a thank nece and art officiality to the whole thing. especially. Without the crowds. And for years, Paul always talked about I really thought that football was going to go to some level. where? The football changes wind up on a sound stage they just pipe everything. Yeah. And I. And I've discovered with this season and would this impact that code and everything? That I really don't WanNa. See that in the future. I WanNa see an honest to god cheering crowd. So yeah that's just that's my view before I start. But Let me ask you this. L. No, I think you. which you said maybe true I don't know none of us are going to know I do think he. Shouldn't we embrace it? I mean, why should we be? Against what we're about to see. Well it's I mean I understand that it's better than nothing but You know the football up the college football up to this point because it's not the big boys, these mid majors and what have you, and of course, nothing impressive about. Except Clemson outs all and all those most those football games we've been simply horrible. That's that's why the NFL has been such got set on so. I could see myself being a a big time pro football fan for the rest of the season i. I don't have any expectations about Alabama Alabama's always been my team. But I just. I'm one of the contrary installed for alleged go is that Honest to God think there'll be an asteroid. Everything they'll be. It just it's just not real. Bomb will call you again. Talk to you again to. Well No, we've talked for many many years. Always. Enjoyed seeing. Paul L. Twenty. Can't. I can't. Yeah. Yeah I wanted to be one of those days. Where you know bunch of Bunch old-timers, Call Land, and shout down we'll we'll. Dedicate. Dedicate a shared into the the originals hey, thanks. Good to hear from you. We have to go to a break we're. Coming back with another hour including an update on the PAC twelve they're about to convene a meeting of the presidents have their digital will join US shortly.

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That's not surprising. Those first four three of the first four. We're in the playoffs last year. Where's clemson what happened to them. They slipping florida at eight. Lsu at seven kentucky. How about that and he surprised that mark stoops doing doing it the right way sixty five players taken all in all and again i. I'm not suggesting they changed the name of the nfl draft to the sec invitational. But it seems that way. Doesn't it anyway more on that in a couple of minutes. Let's talk about obama. Who was a big topic as well. you know. We had seasonal heard on the other day. And he he laid out the facts about the miami team from owando three with thirteen. First round picks and twenty six overall. How about obama thousand nine hundred twenty one. Twenty nine and thirteen. I'll take this out. I take the alabama over that team especially the fans who is this the pinnacle dynasty. We'll have to talk about that and we will Throughout our program. Let's get you some more headlines here before we get to your phone calls. Jt daniel remember when we weren't sure whether you'd ever play fox. Sports projected daniels is a number one overall. Pick in the twenty twenty two. nfl draft. And please call the paramedics grip griffiths. Just had a coronary. Tim tebow remember him is his signing with jacksonville. A real possibility. Urban meyer lamented over the weekend that he is not crazy about the tight end room they did take one from ohio state. Tiba tibo lives three doors down from urban. You think they've had that conversation and when he says it's a real possibility does that mean it's a fait accompli headline stop me. If you've seen this movie before the pac twelve is looking for a commissioner hawk. If you're interested in the job the optics are bad. But there's still time to get it right that according to our man john wilner would they be better just like going out on the freeway and just taking the first car that comes by anyway inside. Twenty seven months of playoff expansion talk. Where are we on the playoff. That is a ross. Dellinger exclusive and he will join us later in the program. I mentioned griff. He will. He will also be with us as soon as he gets off the floor. After reading your daniel. Mike griffith joins us in about thirty minutes. John wilner ross dellinger and who knows who else could possibly show up. We always leave a little bit of room anyway when you think of One of my favorite publications sports business journal very prestigious. The one of their biggest moments of the year is in May and june. I think it's june this year When they announced the sports executive of the year. and how. 'bout that greg sankey of the sec mentioned as one of the top candidates these are all the finalists. You'll also see the president of espn in that group and you see marquee anyway. Marquesa guy that's producing the show today. That was an inside joke. That was that was pretty good candidates. And we'll talk to the commissioner a little bit a little bit later in the week about that in many many other stories. Your phone calls are always welcome here. That's what we do. We take phone calls eight five five two four two seven two eight five loved to have you on board. Last week was very draft. Centric today will venture out into a couple of other areas. How about dawson actually. Not dawson but james starting us off in georgia. Hey james go right ahead. Thank you for taking my call To take my dad's a die hard fan and he's got agent orange and he just loves her so watches it religiously but my suna james. What's his name. his name is charles. Lon a from loud in tennessee know it. Well is my dad he allowed. It didn't states where my family's from we live in columbus georgia and My dad watches your show. I watch your show when the much as i can. But religiously just my mom how How's he doing To give it is the doors did He seventy eight years old and he gets around better than me. It's just the willpower. You know older people but today we live by their way. Everybody will live a lot longer. Well to his name is charles. Right ause you know. Throw it well i well. First of all You know we all should we all him debt or gratitude for going someplace that was not the most popular destination back during that era and for serving all of us bravely and courageously and and unfortunately having to deal with some of the after effects but Charles we we're we're pulling for you and you you continue Inspiring all of us okay. My friend one last question. You busy i. What is the status. Have you heard anything about our our. We don't lose our defense coordinator gaining. Have you heard about her. That just stuff flying around. I have not heard much about it. i i don't know how to answer you though because i know what you're talking about anything i would offer you. Right would just be an absolute guess. Thank you for Taking mcgarth and let me put that little bit here about my dad because he really loves your show. I mean he just you know he's we just love listening to you now because you know it just feels like our home program if you know what i mean james. Thank you for saying that We really appreciate it. And we hope he continues to to deal with. People don't realize you wore has casualties and it's not always what you think it's agent. Orange was a huge story that that generation and i'm just glad to know he's doing well. Thanks so much. Let's continue with more calls. And where are we here. I'm gonna learn how to hit these buttons eventually. How about matt in birmingham matt. Thanks good afternoon mad. We're doing well thank you good. Just don't call it about You being from birmingham the You know the regions tradition is a big classic here in birmingham Was just out there and was going to get you to comment on the pairings. Fred couples got charles barkley and brian harrison. And then nick save is going to be paired with ernie els but just to kind of get your intel on both those. What are you going to look for is is not going to be picking his brain going to pick next brain or how do you see that kind of going down you know. Interestingly nick sabin a probably wanted to play with her first of all nick sabin could play with anyone he wants. So i'm i'm pretty sure. He has to play with earnings because earnings Had a reputation on the radio or tours having these smoothest swing in on the pga tour was effortless. They called him too big easy as far as carson. I say this. With all due respect to my friends. Charles barkley but i played. I played golf too. I used to play golf. I don't play anymore. But i played golf with charles. Probably two dozen times in my life and it will take years off your life. Playing golf with charles barkley. I can't wait. I just want to get you know. I i think nick sabin big. Yeah and you know. I think i think carson is playing with bode too and i think i read where bubba bussey is in that group Who's a great He in burgess. Have you know the most popular Morning show in terms of you. Know non-sports in birmingham and it. Yeah it's a. It's a huge deal Gene hallman puts that tournament on every year and has had to deal with whatever is dealt with last year and i saw the pairings Some of the pairings see john daly's back and we will be Interviewing all those people on wednesday afternoon So don't dare Missiles wednesday We'll have coach saban and And barkley and coach arsene and everybody who is playing in the tournament. We need a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five and we're coming right back. 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And we welcome you back. It's great to have all of you here. And we're continuing your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven. Two thousand five will start bringing the guests in here in a minute Mike griffiths will be up just momentarily. Let's give to the calls in frank in queens new york. Hello frank shatila doing well Good to have you on. Yeah i love. I love the observation. You did about check over the weekend. Ne-near you're taking some flack from a lot of different sources. You never want to placate next the kinds of paul finebaum that i've grown to love over the years. I think you're bill check. Observation is absolutely perfect and the thing is during the kentucky derby. Nbc went so far. As compared to bobby baffert bill. Check the has never worn without brady. And that's a parent and people in new england have to stop getting drunk on chowder and understand that this guy is really not that great. You know yeah. I was on. Espn radio friday morning. In my my point really Was was about mag jones and going to new england and i was simply talking about the media narrative that bill belichick always knows what he's doing and and i got into something which i think's surprise people and i just didn't come up with this out of the clear blue sky question. You know where. He is right now in his career by some of the people that he has working for him especially his son who would not get another job anywhere in the nfl if his name wasn't stephen bell check and i just feel like he's you know you can say it's great that he's taking all these alabama players but to me. He's calling nick sabin and saying saving saying great. Well okay that should work but no guarantee that it will. That's not how you evaluate in the nfl. Use your own instinct. Paul and you do that. You do question to put great bill. I don't care. I don't have anything against bill belichick. That'd be a moron not to acknowledge success. but do. i think you'll win another super bowl. No i don't think he's gonna win another super bowl. You're absolutely right. One more thing you get a lot of flack to for for ripping nebraska. My father you went to the university of oklahoma and graduated you went there. Nineteen sixty eight sixty nine right long time ago. But i've been following the soon as a long time. And i oklahoma place the bresca the this year and the big red game right a revival revivals that big they going to try to make it make it like they. They are on the same. Oklahoma and nebraska. Flat out sucks and you brought this up over and over again in year year in year out they make you look like they make you look great. Because they're joke there. We had a guest on here a couple of months ago years ago. I think when when frost got the job and said he thought he would they would return to where they used to be never returning to where they used to be no. I'm going with that team yours. That know tom. I did meet Coach once or twice. Yes yeah. He's the reason why i let you go. But he's the reason why they were so good. Well he also thank you frank. I mean in fairness osborne replaced. Bob detainee who was a legendary coach and even afterwards so which did a pretty good job. They still fired him because he was only winning. Ten games a year. I mean first of all nebraska doesn't mean anything to anyone outside of nebraska. I've been to a game there. It's it's it's an experience but they're yesterday's news. Thanks for the call appreciate it. Let's talk to dawson. Who's up next in indiana. Hey paul you there. I am thank you for the call. Hey this dolphin outta indiana. Hey i just wanted to talk to you about a comment you had made. And it's about You said time's running out for nick. Sabin of i wanna know. How much time is less and if they just wanna championship do you not think that. The recruiting classes are still continuing to be great. How much time and how many more championships do you think he's gonna win. Dawson was made Two and a half years ago and you make comments based on what you're seeing in the moment. And i was concerned about some of his coaches since then nick saban has brought in an amazing staff Especially on the offensive side of the ball. He has ratcheted up his recruiting to a level that he has. I don't think ever been at before and most important development is better than it's ever been so yeah i i don't think to windows closing any longer. I think it really comes down to now. You know what what savoring wants to do. And nobody knows the answer to that right now. The best intel. I have is that he doesn't wanna do anything else doesn't matter whether he's about to be seventy or seventy five and as long as health is good. He will continue to do that job. He's not going anywhere else at this point. There's nothing else that really interests him. So i think. Nick saban has defied time and i know a lot of people that are happy to see it. Thanks for the call appreciate it. Let us check in with tom. who is in alabama. Hello tom how are you doing tom or doing great. Thank you talk about my hair because my hair one got got mad jigsaw. We're talking about areas. Do you talk about Alabama's baseball team in play for our national championship. I believe they came in second. Who do you play big leagues. I believe he played for the mets. Okay he he plays it. He played a. He played their thirty five years ago or almost or longer didn't he yeah was a long time ago. I've watched show this. I retired as a day. And i appreciate you do such a job. Never just you taking my call. Tom thank you. And if you want to talk about your heritage feel free. There's no there are no rules on this show. That's what gets us in trouble fan. What is up with you I got my job. Nineteen shot my second. One call and i wanted to talk to you by day football and share the good news with you first of all. I'm glad you got the shot. And that's that's really good news now. Maybe we can meet this fall if you can. Well the good news though talked about reading program called learning are might take the test to get a test format. You can help me. Go back to school paul. Listen man i don't wanna sound like everybody's parent i will. Education is critically important. And i know they're always exceptions. And i know that. Steve jobs and bill bill and others bill gates dropped out of harvard. But they're the exceptions to the rule. You need to go to school. Thank you appreciate up all coming from a friend. Like you like every keeps saying jimbo's a hack. He's a joke. He'd never wanna tight all day now longest. They've been there or i don't agree with. The jimbo is not a hat. he's he's a good coach. I believe he will championship. I m i would be challenging. If they've been in the west this year. And i don't get why people keep on bashing him when he went nine at one deal here. That's when you're talking you're thinking on all listen mad jimbo fisher and curvy smart or after just a half layer level but below. Nick sabin in the sec and they both are extremely capable. It's possible am you could fear. Could be a hair less than last year was gone. I mean when you're for your starter that does matter but on the other hand we've seen alabama win championships with first year starters. It can't happen. Hey thanks for the call. We're up against a break. Speaking of the jt daniels a big conversation piece right now. And we're going to talk about the man who covers the dogs my griffith right after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast hey there. I'm julie foudy from the podcast. Laughter permitted in. We've been teamed up with ally from day one of our podcast in fact i'm a customer and that's because ally wants to help you save your money well so you can grow it well and spend it. Well whatever makes your little soul sing. And that's why they're committed to helping you do right by your money so get started visit. Allied dot com to learn more my griffith joining us. Mike has been too long. How are you my friend. What's going on. I've been good been good. Paul how you doing man. We're okay life is slowly getting back to normal and we just had a headline a minute ago that jt daniels. And you heard dr kirby The other day is projected to be the number one. Pick in the draft That's that's not setting the bar too high. Is it yeah. I don't know about projections right now. I mean that's a long time off. Obviously you think about it at this time last year we thought jamie newman or doin. Mathis was going to be the starting quarterback george. Jt daniels was the guy in the portal at southern cal. That was the furthest thing from. Anybody's mind in the sec. Now we see doin. Math is going to be the starting quarterback at temple and jamie's author headed for the nfl. And now the guy here so little early but but certainly with todd malkin's offense and when you look at georgia schedule. It certainly lends itself to what she'd be really special year for j. t. offense. Well let's talk a little bit more about that because we are. The draft is now over and we are entering the silly season of predictions and magazines expectations. And i know not much has really changed other than the pickens injury. But now that you've had a chance to catch your breath and see the spring practice and what what are your your takeaways as we head toward the summer and fall. It's the same questions i mean. I know there's a lot of people that are bullish on georgia. Think i've heard you say that a lot of the other top analysts out there. Listen georgia's loaded right this year. They set a program record with nine guys drafted next year. They're gonna have eleven or twelve guys drafted. they have four five guys in the first round of me. It's a loaded roster right cyclically. This should be a year for georgia. And i know every year. You say that. That's a good thing. It's a good thing when you're an annual national championship contender clemson alabama oklahoma georgia ohio state. Right that's not a bad thing. Have four straight top ten finishes but it doesn't take away from the fact that george is going to be very inexperienced. In the secondary recent news major burns a safety backup albeit but a young talented guy transferring out of georgia. That makes ten guys now. That have left the program since the end of the twenty nine thousand nine season you through transfer or via four guys drafted yesterday in the nfl draft two of them. The top thirty three bigs but the bottom line is. there's a lot of youth in the secondary. You mentioned other than george pickens. Well i mean you know. He's only he was only going to be the best receiver in the sec's first round draft. Pick wind is george comeback. That's a question is he. Backed by next november. Could he provide a late lift. But until then it's going to be more of a committee. George pickens was going to be the go-to guy. He's going to be honored. Catch guy so now. Georgia's going to have fused tight ends more and they're running backs more changes the offense a little bit. Mike is as we zoom the camera back a little bit not literally but figuratively You've covered a number of sec schools in the past. you've lived in alabama covering auburn alabama. Tennessee georgia i'm curious about the east Moving george off the table. Because i think we both can conclude or we'll conclude that they will be the favorite. But what about you. What about florida. I keep getting a lot of questions about you. Know where exactly is this program now. After after what happened last year it was good and bad. Yeah i think you gotta give. Dan mullen a lot of credit. He produced a first round draft. Two first round. Picks with kyle pits. Tony and i saw trial scout Picked in late in the second round. Good for 'em going to a good place behind brady and tampa bay. But i thought mullin did a really nice job with his talent last year win. Florida was engaged obviously after the sec championship game. S that's a heartbreaker right a lot of those kids cashed in. They kind kinda rolled over in the bowl game. but i was really impressed with how they played against alabama. I don't think you can take that away from florida. I thought their best game of the year was that lost alabama. I mean it sounds crazy and say that. But i like what mullen does but you know. Look dan mullins a guy that servants show cause penalty right now. i mean florida's got some recruiting restrictions. Once teams are able to go back on the road. They've got a little bit hanging over them. You wonder if that's going to slow down a little bit. You wonder if that'll damage. They're recruiting But otherwise i think dan mullen offenses are very exciting. I think he's proven that You know what he can do with tight ends. And indicating matchup certainly He was able to outmaneuver georgia for one half of play georgia. Having lost their all american safety there were a little young back there. And you gotta give mullen credit. He schemed him up on. So i think florida is probably the number two team. But you know what i'm not. Count out missouri. I know that sounds crazy but you know ally drink wits this guy he kinda had missouri going a little bit last year and every time we want to count missouri out. It seems like they jump back into the mix right. Probably a little early for tennessee. for hypol- become get anything going. He lost a lot. There we kentucky. I wonder a little bit about a tough team. Certainly developed a reputation in the trenches. But i almost think. It's florida by default and i give you know missouri that punchers chance And i certainly don't want to disrespect kentucky. Talking to mike griffin the micro. So let's flip it over and we'll move alabama to one in because i think we can over overdue but who challenges them is. Lsu is day and given any thought to. Yeah i think a and lsu got a lot of talent and saw that when they went down and beat. Florida swamp derailed florida's for college. Football playoff spot. You know quarterback. Rick quarterback play mex. Johnson played at night. I was impressed with a talented. Lsu nepal unite talked about it. I remember the conversation last october. When i told you that these off the field issues that we're kind of in the shadows around ed or drawn and the program. I mean they've really come to the forefront and we have to see how that filters out that can be a distraction. Certainly that can hurt a program. So i don't necessarily think that. Lsu's would yet. We've got to see how they're able to manage the off field issues that they've had with sexual misconduct cases So i think that's kinda they're still And then of course i am. I think jimbo fisher's recruited better and better and better. I know you rightly. So you mentioned losing a guy like cowan mind and not always easy to replace the guy like that right. We saw georgia struggle without jake. Brahm took a little while for them to get comfortable there. So but i like the talent there and you know the big question about alabama's they do with the rpo. I mean they've got this amazing. Rpo quarterback nick saban's going to appeal like nobody's business. I mean this guys are running back. Plant quarterback essentially talked to jt daniels. High school coach. Who also coached the alabama quarterback and. He's a really special guy. So you wonder about the crimson tide and how they play will affect the sec couple of other issues that are bedeviling the people involved in intercollegiate athletics. I a transfer portal. Where is the sec. On this yeah you know from what i understand. They've kind come out ahead collectively. We're talking basketball now. There's over fourteen hundred division players in the transfer puerto paul. There were three hundred and forty seven teams. That played basketball issue. That's an average of more than four players per team. You gotta more than sixty guys from the sec. That have left school. I know georgia. There's a complete makeover. Their point guard severe wheeler went into the portal is set a record school record process. So there's a lot of makeovers going on right now in the sec. Collectively the sec. Probably coming out ahead in the. Sec is really bolstered really grown in basketball. You take a look around the league at the coaches and the talented they have. And it's a very impressively. I think it's only going to get more impressive. I'm not a fan of the portal. Because right now. Paul with the covid. Nineteen extra year of eligibility. More kids in the portal than there are scholarships available. So the scary thing. Is that a kid could leave a scholarship position. Go in the portal and not return and get another scholarship and to me. That's of what's lost in the shuffle is. They're going to be some kids that are going to go in this portal and and not come out with the scholarship and that's not good for the student athlete. Eventually i think it evens out but right now it's a bit helter. Skelter not really sure what direction. The sec is going to go When it comes to do you need to sit out year to transfer within the sec. I can see pros and cons to that right. You can say if you go to the sec. You don't go to another school without sitting out a year. That would probably stem allowed the recruiting that these schools might be doing against one another but it also might deter incoming prospects saying well. I don't want to sec school. If they're going to restrict me so great sankey is athletic. Directors and presidents s. Really important decisions to make your in the next few weeks they do. And it's going to be fashioning a couple of other things i alas but the It was a week ago. We had a bill hancock. Ron here kirby talked about saving talk talked about it as well others will continue to talk about. What are you saying about. Think the writing on the wall. I mean i know. Bill hancock said hey absolutely positively not gonna expand the season in the next two years you know i thought coach saving made a really compelling argument about the bowl system and how many other schools benefit from that. And you don't really wanna kill the golden. Goose i'm a proponent maybe for a mild expansion but but not to the extent paul that it affects the regular season. See i. i'm okay with expansion provided that you have locked in spots that make that conference championship game. Matter right for example the by power five conference championship game winners are in you. Find a way to get a of five game in a group of five team. And obviously you've got to have some notre dame provisions They found a way to force notre dame into the playoffs last year when they didn't deserve it. So they're gonna find some provisions to keep notre dame in the mix if they went eleven or twelve gangs regardless of whether they're one of the four best But i don't want to see it. Go crazy because the beauty of college football and i know that the lunatic fringe may not appreciate this. They tune in for the college football. Play every year and go. This isn't big enough. Well you know what. There's the rest of us that enjoy the regular season and recognize that every weekend is a playoff that it does matter what happens. You can't have a bad saturday. That game between lsu in florida with the shoe toss. I mean it was a fantastic football game because it mattered because it factored into the college football playoff championship rates. You know if you have too many teams in the playoff. It's a game. You shrug off and say at doesn't mean much so i don't wanna see the playoffs expanded to the point that it waters down. What i believe is the best regular season in any sport. Finally the nfl question. It's coming to a head. what are you here. And especially man georgia's been in the news a lot about it we and where do you see a going well right now. I know georgia's hired a company. I think the same company works with lsu and south carolina to work with these schools and kind of educate these kids on. Hey here's how you market yourself. Here's some background on social media. Here's how it works with contracts. Suddenly you're asking these players to not only manage themselves through their classroom schedule their workout scheduling their training room schedule but now they need to manage themselves as their own brand social media. Do they do their own. Press releases how does this change things and then the other question you have paul is how valuable is a kid without that g on his helmet or without that gators logo behind him. I think it's gonna wake up call for some kids and they're gonna find out their value is closely attached to the school and other exception to every rule. Certainly every conference has their shared superstars but to what degree to what extent and then the second thing is how to coaches manage. This you wanna kid to command and feel like hey you're going to get every opportunity at school layer school. Be that you'd get elsewhere. So does that mean that. There's more accessibility of for this kid to to speak his mind do press. Conferences does play a role in recruiting for example. You look georgia now. Atlanta the seventh largest metro area. Is that a big advantage for georgia. It a lot of these kids could be marketable in the atlanta area or for florida is certainly has all those major metropolitan areas of most notably job jacksonville seventy miles away orlando not too far either camp for that matter so you wonder does the rich get richer and how does it affect the schools that are near the big markets. Do they have an advantage. Because of the pending legislation always great from migrant. Mike we have missed you. I'm glad you're back and let's continue this conversation soon. You've paul thanks bye. Griffiths some great conversations there and we will get your reaction to that jon wilner in a few minutes Mentioned don't forget wednesday. A number of guests from the regions tradition in birmingham. Your phone calls right around the corner listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Hey there. 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Thirty straightforward our down. the list. duino. Other mike was at home or was he being was he being held at gunpoint. Hough i i. Yeah i i don't know about you. But i thought. I saw bayonet right out of the corner of the side of the screen. They're testing Listen i i just dirocco survey for here an awful. Yeah and did job roach. No no. I always wanted to of course during college. Read it every day and i will tell you. There was one interlude about nine years. After i left knoxville. i happened to be In gatlinburg and the editor of the paper gave me a ride back to the airport and knoxville and they had just had an opening they just let somebody go and we talked about it. I don't think i was quite ready for it in for a while. I wondered whether i should have gone. But i'm glad i did what i did. But but i always wanted to be. I always wanted to work in knoxville. Covering the volume. That was my dream in in college. Why are work. Did you really wow. That's part of our process. Sure you know that You know people don't understand this now scott but Knoxville news sentinel back in the day. I mean we used to students wait Down at the same. Andy's for it to be for it to be dropped off at midnight on saturday night. Which time was early for me now. It seems pretty late but that was a big deal. Power burson where else to go out with scott windy. When did you retire from the paper. Well you saw the heyday. I don't need to tell you you were there I got to knoxville In the mid mid seventies and There was nothing that paper ran. The town you know that wall sixteen general safety. Yeah if you saw at all when the this is going to be a newspaper conversation near but what when did they make the switch from from the press What year. We'll change from water past her right and an house Embarrassing that was probable movie Goss all i also. I'm not really sure it was probably was in today's shooter. Yeah everything in the newspaper. Business james i mean you have to remember Computers were were were barely visible in a newspaper. Newsroom as until until the early eighties and everything changed. I mean it. Was you know it better than i do. Because you started. But it was a complex thing. Printing that newspaper darla when they To learn that it's also fast now with our friends on this man rhythm fast but around ceremony art and well thank you very much scott. We're up against the top of the hour. Thanks for sharing. That story takes me back to the old day. We're coming right back. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three easter. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com get quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Hour 3: Mike Griffith

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach. Ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson while helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash. Hybrid cloud cried passion and pageantry of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum. Show our three podcast. We welcome you back. It is the second half of the program and we are live. And who better to talk to than our friend. Mike griffith mike is a great to have you on a good afternoon and it seems like Georgia is on a lot of people's minds these days. How how are you good. Paul thanks jared. Kirby Held an impromptu trust for chester day. And if you assistant coaches talk so it was It was hit that sort of access to or spring started. We're certainly not complaining. And it's a constant conversation with you. And i think we will be talking a lot this spring and summer about The expectations and i want to play something for you. I'm sure you've heard about it But l. dunkin was here yesterday. She's a georgia fan Now at espn in this is what she had to say. I'm having this weird. And i always ask you. How should i feel. I'm having this weird thing with with kirby right now. It's like the best way to put it. Is this analogy. You don't really start dating someone right and maybe you start dating someone like right away there do something heroic like you start dating them in there like the helping foster children. They're saving puppies on the weekend. And so you instantly fall in love. 'cause you're like this person is my person and then the more you're going to the relationship they just start doing things right like you notice. They don't wash their hands after they use the bathroom or they're really messy. It's not enough to break up with them. But it's definitely enough to make you question whether they are your soul mate. And i just kirby just keeps making these decisions. That are just nonsensical to me. You know like he will forever sort of be brought up in the justin fields. Jake from over justin fields conversation. But then it's sort of sort of learning is less than he does it again and i'm by no means comparing jt daniels to justin fields. But like didn't we all know stetson didn't have it. I just don't understand what information he's using to make these decisions and it is it's maddening. i love that. We're in the conversation paul every year but some of these decisions. Kirby's making her just th- the luster. I think for some georgia fans is starting to wear off a little bit like this sheen is not quite as pristine as it used to be when he was saving kittens from trees. I don't know l. dunkin right here yesterday. Mike there's a lot to unpack their Take your pick. Yeah you know. Maybe the worst thing kirby did is get to the national championship in his second year as a head coach. I i think back terry. Bowden going undefeated his first years. The auburn coach. And you know there's really nowhere to go down. I mean it's it's interesting. I wrote a piece today that you know. here's georgia. They finished in the top ten four years in a row and yet some people tell you. They're not meet expectations. I i don't know many programs in the top ten four straight years and not met expectations so Expectations are dangerous thing. But but if we're going to call out the the elephant in the room big al while we're at it alabama's the alabama's doing some amazing things. Nick saban Last season they were able to do was it was incredible. They lost their best wide receiver and still produced a heisman trophy winner in the national championship. You gotta tip your cap to nick. Nick sabin What he dabbles. Sweeney has done clemson over the last four five years really dominated. Lsu slid in for year with the ohio state. Transfer deal borough quarterback but for the most part it's been the alabama clemson show in those two programs have really set the bar high and i think georgia is right there in oklahoma. You're kind of right there on the outside looking in ohio state you know. Put those those names in a hat. I think those your contenders again. Next season. So in terms of kirby though making mistakes i i know that's a. That's an easy thing to say. But did you hear anything in that criticism that you agreed with. Well i mean. I understand Different perspectives. that may not have the. You know the the insight as to what happened. You know as people get him. Nizhny jake jake from in georgia played for national championship in twenty seventeen and he was undefeated through seven games. The next year. I don't know how you pull a guy. Ranked in the top five and pacifist undefeated that is playing point. Guard pro style offense for a freshman. That can't get past this. I read now. If you wanna talk what would happen next year. I don't know. I don't know just i'm guessing. Just the fields would have gotten very good at ohio state net system. Most quarterbacks look a lot better in year two year three when they adjusted the speed of the college game day. Tom was playing point guard. They weren't asking him to be a playmaker and run the ball. They had four or five guys that are now receivers tight ends in the nfl that he was thrown two and a prolific offensive line with You know really talented running back. So you kinda wanna the point. Guard i i suppose people can debate that and wonder what would have happened if justin fields would have stayed at georgia. Just like i'm sure. Ohio state fans wonder. What would have happened if joe burrow would've stayed At the ohio state maybe he won a national title there So that's one thing i last year. It was a matter of you know. Jt daniels being injured in. How healthy was how healthy is healthy. Enough i agree That's bennett could only take you so far. He was only good enough to beat alabama for one half and tuscaloosa But he wasn't good enough to finish the game so again. Hindsight's twenty twenty Kirby has access to medical records that we don't When i talk with. At daniels dad about it. He said i get it. I don't want my kid being thrown out there before. He's ready to play young. Kirby didn't think jt ready. He's the head coach. that's why we came to georgia. We trusted them. Talking to my griffiths Like just in terms of criticism. It just seems to me that it's very small. Maybe it gets a lot of attention on a program like this and others. but you're there Do you really hear much criticism of kirby smart in in relation to the big picture. Not really no. You know georgia's come a long way in some of the gains or they're kind of invisible game so i'm giving example twenty four seven sports. Just put out there for best facilities list for twenty. Twenty one georgia's eighteenth. I last time they were eighth. Or ninth and the sec. Wait a minute you're telling me georgia's eighteenth in the nation and best facilities. Yeah now. they're on the verge of opening up this new eighty million dollars football building and kirby taken over. They've put up about one hundred and fifty million dollars in facilities that they didn't have to really enhance the georgia football facilities. And that matters recruiting. Right i mean recruits. You know. they can't quite put their finger on it right you know. What do they say they forget what you say but they never forget how you make them feel well when you walk into some these palaces around the country's top notch facilities you kind of feel good about yourself club since done a great job with theirs and it makes sense. It's also like a gathering place for the players. You want your players to hang out and have a good time. Built team chemistry. Well you build a nice building mega so they don't gotta go out anywhere else. They don't wanna go out anywhere else. So i think what georgia's done facilities wise are with the campus. What they've done with their stadium you they just got to figure it out and play their home games. There i mean. She's one of the best game days in college football and he seemed like you wanna give your games away and and play him other places. I don't understand. You're you talked about it paul. I still don't really understand what. George gets out of playing at georgia tech. I'd never play another game that stadium. I say you wanna play fine. Come samper stadium. He'd given up a home at home for george tech getting no points for winning that game chatty here with mike as we get ready for spring What are you going be looking for. Well you know you got to find out if georgia can get good nucleus leaders. I i know that sounds trite. I know that she's that so cliche. I- roll but you know when you look at the teams that win championships. You can pick them out. You can pick out those leaders. Those catalyst paul those guys that draw the line in the huddle and saying that they look is no more ink when georgia made their run twenty. Seventeen roquan smith okay. They had that catalyst. I go back to the ninety eight. That i covered you remember. You already know what name them throughout their. Right at wilson. Everybody remembers twenty seven when he spoke every body. Listened right you go to lsu. Joe burrow phenomenal leader generational player guy. Some teams got it some teams. Don't that's the separator to me shawn watson. how fantastic was he and beating alabama and that fourth quarter game temper unbelievable leadership right so cam. Newton auburn many points. Were they down dalla bama. They gave two three touchdowns ball. You remember that game all. Go ten years go. You gotta have those catalysts you gotta have those difference makers who's going to evolve into that guy for georgia and will they had the guy that can get them over the hump because let's face it you know they're gonna run into alabama again. They got so that can put the the tied down. Finally they didn't in two thousand seventeen griffis grave. You might come back soon. We we have a lot to talk about in the future. Appreciate your time. Thank you got a great conversation. There from mike and we'll we'll head to the break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five sometimes. Our food is more than just food. It's an intrical part of our community so this year discovers giving five million dollars to support black owned restaurants to places like rodney scott. Barbecue in charleston. 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Okay i know you probably try to discussing this topic about actually brought. But i never did get a real clear understanding It helped me understand why they can't make While they can't just take the top a playoff team and todd bowles system into that and make a play off. You know with the top you know eight bold and the and the top eight play-off teams and just make a playoff this. what was. Where's the difficulty in that. Well it's not difficult for the two of us to come up with it but let me let me try to explain Who makes this decision. You have the power five. Commissioners you have the notre dame athletic director you have others involved including the american conference and other smaller conferences. and it's hard to get Those people to agree to this because it doesn't benefit them and as a result we you know everyone wants something so you know you have a group of five now on the pow in the in the new year. Six games the only way that i believe. You can expand Right now they will. Expand is for everyone to get something it's negotiation and and there's just not a lot of willingness and the for the the for the southeastern conference. What's the advantage. The southeastern conference asked for us to go to eight games by doing that. It diminishes one of the most valuable properties. The sec has which is the conference championship javits. And that's that's holding it up. Okay thank you thank you thank you know i mean i would like to tell you that all these gentlemen and women that sit together in a room are concerned about saving mankind. But but but i will defend greg sankey or or or anyone else in that room if you're the sec. Commissioner and you represent the most powerful entity in intercollegiate athletics. Why are you giving something away. And and and i mean anyone who's ever been in a negotiation understands that you do have to Agree i mean you always have to give something up. I if you're if you're a good negotiator now so now they're bullies and who just walk in like a bull in a china shop But you know you also but while giving something up you better get something out of it. And what's the se. Get out of that. I mean the sec. Already has one team in the in the playoff some years maybe two Yeah they'll hit an don't look at another school in there The would be guaranteed of to innovate in eighteen playoff. But what are they. Give up back to the 'cause we go and we are getting some really good ones in here. The leash is in arkansas. Hello felicia sounds like you're having a good day Talking to ask you playoff system and didn't wanna come in about l. Dunkin heard her yesterday. I you know. I'm not i don't have anything with georgia issues but Or you can keep up with it. But i thought she was so funny You know it's entertaining conversation. And i just wanted to pass on her. I thought she was hilarious. I mean forget when she said. I mean it's not even really the most critical part of it. It's just the fact that she was finding. Yeah yeah same here. i've i just You know chuckle out of it but I i can't remember you know really recognize his. She is on sportscenter. Someone look up for pick your. Here's what she she won't first of all she's she's been gone because she just had a baby she does the Let's see you're in arkansas. So it's fi- she does the five o'clock sportscenter keep up with that Impossibility of Seeing how comical. She is on but There's tony big boy I heard you talk about him Several weeks ago. I haven't kept up with all your calls to know if anybody's brought him up again. But i went to a small little arts college in conway arkansas. They didn't it's conway grown but there wasn't much there Started in nineteen eighty. But there was a sony big boy there and we hung out and studied a lot. But sony light to travel a lot. There were some guys in hendrix. That would deliver sony over to our college campus. At least once a year and on the year i mean this was the big big morning i mean. He probably closing in on seven feet tall. It's not taller. My graduation day. Sony boy was in patio. Which is the outdoor area. Where we'd sit in graduate you know waiting for us for our Graduation it was just comical. That sony would show up several times on campus and in the School had to make arrangements to get sony back but anyway Shoney's big boy is a part of my college memories and I know you were talking about how used to hang out. at shoney's no. I don't know why certain things come back to you. I think that's maybe the aging process. But i just. I still remember that I don't. I don't even eat a lot of hamburgers but i still remember that shoney's hamburger well if you're like me. You probably didn't have a lot green dollars in your pocket. No no i think. Well i don't think. I know you're correct about that. I i we we were. We were not that. Were not in great shape but But you really appreciate it. A meal like that and they. They weren't expensive. No it was to me was just it was It was it was. It was an all american atmosphere. Yeah and you can sit there all day. Just have a coffee and at least in conway nobody bothers you and we didn't think about much of a tip you know you tip for the cost of your coffee. And that was that was it. And those those Waitstaff would just You know cater to us is if we were a well paying customer growth but You can just imagine that big statue. I'm i'm thinking would i would. I am i've when every time i fly in the knoxville. There's a shoney's near the airport But i have. I haven't seen many other shoney's around. I don't know i have no idea whether what their businesses but I don't think they have a lot of them anymore. There was one here and save for a while but it just kinda disappeared into real estate company. Yeah i think just so. Many other places are doing the same thing that they did. I vaguely remember my first job was at mcdonald's and i remember when Certainly mcdonald's still big deal. But i remember when that was For a kid to go to mcdonalds. there couldn't be anything. there was nothing better absolutely. We saw people working at mcdonald's for great. You know. They had the job of the world. I i would i really. I really wish i had. I could remember what i made from. I'm sure i could probably figure it out. It wasn't very much When you ev- every time. I see them the minimum wage. Now all i do is compare it to what i made as a as a as a fifteen and a half or sixteen year. Old hours Sixteen or such. I was a nurse's aid. I think i got a look seventy. And then when i got to raise two dollars seventy five. I just thought that was miraculous. Just looked at up out of curiosity. What i and i i made the minimum wage mcdonalds so I made a dollar sixty an hour lately. you know. Felicia what the what the greatest part about working at madonna. It wasn't the dollar sixty an hour that you made. It was the fact that when you left your when your shift was over you could. You could take all the free food you want at. My first job was long. John silvers when i was in i was afraid. Cook first female pry cook in our region and I worked in the late shift. And i bring stuff home and that was when the microwaves were first coming out so i bring home the chicken nuggets chicken and know my brothers and my dad was wait up for that and you know like you said the best part about it was getting getting free food on your shift but i knew after that summer it was the first summer you know i. I was sixteen. I was able to work. I was going to college. I that was a job. That made sure. I was going to get something more out of my life than fast foods slinging greasy stuff and stinking like when the go. Well i they had me on fries. Occasionally they did not like the. The manager did not like my frie- style. Because i made the fries like i wanted to eat them which was crispy and the guy told me we don't have time to make crispy fries you know. So just a you're you're you're going to shakes well. So can you walk into mcdonald's now without having a little bit of i. I can't do long john silver's it. No i haven't I have not been in a mcdonald's. Although i was i was someplace a couple of years ago and we were to come back home In the person driving. So let's go. We went into go. Hey thanks for the call really appreciate. We're heading to break. My griffith joined us a few minutes ago. Alex berenson earlier. We also talked a seesaw. Hurt and i will also have bill conley a little bit later. If you wanna give us a call this a good time to do it. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Do you own or rent your home. Share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. 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Hey thomas hey paul how are you doing we are doing. Thank you very much You had somebody on monday. He was an alabama fan and he actually had the nerve to call georgia a fraud. Where is he getting this from. Kirby in his first five years has accomplished more than any other coach in college football on their first five years. And i can think what was nick. Sabin doing into your Well yeah overall. He was She would have been. Maybe i mean he was doing here he he was doing okay. But you're right. I don't think anybody is quite match. Kirby right and so you know. Donald kirby still has a long ways to go. I'll give him that. Nick sabin is greater. But i mean he he still is also another thing too. I never thought. I would here in alabama fan say. That auburn is a blue button and not georgia auburn as as may national championships as georgia dies. But it's a auburn longer in-between there too then has georgia and georgia's you know one of the program top programs in the country. There's trending up so you know. Never thought i here in alabama fan tried to say that auburn is a blue button and georgia's not that was it's interesting Hey thank you for the call appreciate Don't go anywhere mistaker. I'm gonna get to this Bill currently listed amenity is joining us at the at the top of the next hour. Let me grab one or two more calls before. I do because we'll take a little while to go over. How about mica in connecticut. Mica thank you good afternoon. Hey paul good afternoon. Thanks so i i wanted to Talk little bit about Specifically the lack of diversity and among people bowl coaches Head football coaches You know i as sort of a a problem You know i mean. They're amazing just labs. are you know. Let go but I mean when you think what your thoughts on this. And i mean what do you think the sec needs to do or should do or do you think they should do anything. Relative to try increase you know then the number of hours at the Hit it This came up during the summer when we had sylvester croom on and our bring his name up because he was the first person of color to be hired in the sec. When when when Larry templeton helped to break the color barrier. Not believe those two thousand and four since then You know we have. We've we've seen a handful of coaches James franklin obviously vanderbilt derek. Mason joker phillips kentucky. I'm trying to remember If they're a there have been some other ones Those are the ones that come to mind. It's i'll try not to sound political here but but ultimately this is not a conference decision. This is an individual choice of every institution and certainly diversity is extremely important. And it's a topic that is very important to too many people including the people at the very top of the Of the leadership at conference in and you see it in in just about every sport Certainly basketball is probably the preeminent sport in terms of you know seeing seeing diversity but in football. It's you know you have to look at individual. Hires and you. And i think tennessee being the most recent I do know they. They reached out to james franklin. But but ultimately it's it's. It's a school decision and i know the previous hire. Uh mel tucker was a finalist. And i'm just mainly trying to stick to what i know versus what i don't know and i guess i'm going to toss it back to you for a second. How do you. How do you implement this change. Well i think if you look at the nfl. For example. and i know you're talking totally different Animal here but right but you know i. The nfl you know at least has some protocols in place where You know minority coaches could the interviews. It leaves position. Have mandatory interviews already roles while we're talking to really think about it. I mean they don't know that that's really necessary. There's been some conversation about implementing this rule. But i will tell you it's my best. Guess that every major institution subscribes to it whether it's Mandated or not they subscribe to it. But do you think that they I mean well the the difference too is you. Don't have one commissioner. You have ten commissioners or more But i i will defend the sec. I know it's it's a it's a top priority and everything they do accept you know what what what can you do other than encourage which i know they do but but you also have to make an individual decision and i i. Don't i think it's a conversation piece. I'm not shutting this down. I'm just trying nor my defending the lack of diversity. I'm just simply You know with you. Search whissle to be critical of the f. Because it's not just the sec as no country. It's you know it's almost every conference Almost every major converse over this issue And i don't get why i was gonna ask you your thoughts who because You know if you look at the You know the the diversity and among the players Is you it's only. Yeah i mean So i think i don't really know what truly what the answer is But i think it's i think i think the only thing you can do and i'm positive this. This happens is constant awareness. And i know that sounds like a cliche but but but i'm serious. I mean i. I know a lot You know all these people And i know how. I know. I know what a top line priority it is and i mean i do know that there's only so much you can do from a conference standpoint. You have to encourage leadership. And i think they do There were four openings. This year i'm trying to think of each one of them. In terms of vanderbilt was the one i was curious about. Because vanderbilt has an exemplary exemplary record For diversity with with with with an african american athletic director now a basketball coach and a and a couple and two two straight football but they they they also brought in someone who played there so I that's how they ended up with coach li. Well i tell you what this will not be the last time we talk about it. I i'll give you that. My word and i will search for not just anyone but the right person To converse with about this and and and in terms of looking for A solution versus just throwing it up against the wall. Hey thank you very much I'm going to read a couple of these names on this list. And it's gonna take to. It's gonna take a while to get through it. Because bill connerly is coming up at the top of the hour and i think we showed his top ten on the basketball On the screen the other day. But that's that does not do this. This is a bill bill is with. Espn and he did a He's an analytics guy and what he did. He ranked the sixty best quarterbacks in college. football This was not only sec. This wasn't the entire body of work of college football in the two thousand so speaks for itself. We're talking about the last twenty years and a lot of controversy about first couple. But i don't think we really even talked about who's not on this list and as i go through the list start thinking about who didn't make it. I'm going to go from sixty to one here. Kevin called from houston is at number sixty. Andy dalton this is only college not pro. this is andy dalton from tcu at fifty. Nine zack wilson. Byu brilliant career. Big big conversation about him right now in the nfl. He's fifty eight fifty-seven matt barkley from southern cal. Aaron rodgers at fifty six from cal. Todd recent from kansas fifty. Five patrick mahomes fifty four texas tech mason rudolph fifty-three oklahoma state joey harrington oregon. Fifty two keenan reynolds navy. Fifty-one one. Brad banks iowa fifty david carr fresno state forty nine dan le four central michigan. Forty eight denard. Robinson michigan forty seven jordan lynch northern illinois at six. Kyle translated at forty five. You i manning forty four brady quinn. Notre dame forty-three. Eric crouch won the heisman forty two. Brian left which marshall forty-one aaron murray from georgia forty colt brennan hawaii. Thirty nine collin klein kansas state. Thirty eight thirty seven. Alex smith from utah. Landry jones number. Thirty six mack. Jones number thirty five. Ken dorsey thirty four chase daniel. Thirty three graeme herald tech thirty. Two troy smith ohio state thirty one. Jason white thirty colin kaepernick nevada twenty nine. Rex grossman eight justin fields. Twenty seven ben rothlisberger miami of ohio. Twenty six pat white west virginia. Twenty five russell. Wilson played at nc state of wisconsin. Twenty four jalen hurts. Twenty-three case keenum houston twenty two carson palmer. Se twenty twenty-one top twenty. Philip rivers nc state to nineteen andrew luck eighteen matt liner. Seventeen jameis winston. Sixteen top fifteen. Sam bradford fourteen kellen moore johnny manziel thirteen cole mccoy twelve trevor eleven. Rg three ten iota. Nine lamar jackson eight cuyler. Murray seven the shawn watson. Six joe burrow five tibo four vince. Young three cam newton to number one baker mayfield. That's the entire list. We'll talk to bill in a moment If you have some thoughts on it you can start getting in here and we may Even includes some phone calls for bill That is a list. What did he get right. What did he get wrong. Eight five two four two seven. Two eight five is the number. We're coming right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast back here on a wednesday afternoon. Bill conley joining us in a few minutes on that list Getting some interesting suggestions on twitter and you can join us as well here about Make it eight five five two four two seven two eight five. You have a thought on that for bill. Let's check in with bradley right now. Hey bradley we are doing great Bradley thank you. I was calling them. I just wanna make a comment on the guy that called in. I think he was your last caller talking about georgia and comparing Kirby smarts for first. Five years to nick sabin. I five years. Well i think it would. I think he's talking about savings first. Five years in coaching. Not alabama okay. Well yeah i think. I think we know what he did in his first. Five years at alabama. Okay well thank goodness iran but Because i was. I thought he was talking about his first alabama in his third year one national title and as national. I know yeah as he said that i started thinking. Maybe that's what i what he said. I i may have been thinking what he meant but That's a good point. It's not you can't compare that like you can. You can't compare the talent that kirby inherited when he went to georgia versus talent. Nick saone inherited alabama inherited a ten minutes. Exactly it's crazy. I thought he was talking about. Maybe i'll moan. But i think that's how it came out but I maybe to analytical in my analysis of what he really meant your call though. I can understand why you reacted to that. Jason is up next. Hey jason our caller about the same thing. We're maybe it. Maybe i heard it wrong. The statement man. He needs some. he needs some schooling. If he was talking about alabama he said he said i five years. Now i don't know how specific he was. Yeah if he's talking about alabama. I'm a heisman. Trophy winner to sec. Titles and two national titles. And i'll give kirby more fifteen years and he will want accomplish in fifteen years well did. Yeah but i mean let me make let me try to give him the guy the benefit of the doubt. I mean and here. Here's really what i think he was saying. And and if you if you think about what nick's nick saban's record was i mean he. He he had one year. Let's see where did say he was where where he spent the first year Toledo okay So this is nick. Saban's record Emily to send it to me. And and i think if you don't look at this then we're missing. The whole point of the argument he was he was nine into toledo. Six five and one at michigan state and six at michigan state seven five six and six and nine and two overall he was forty one twenty six and won his first six years as a coach carbon If you give me a second i will tell you but it's a pretty good It's pretty it's considerably better than what i just got through. Here is fifty. Two kirby is fifty two and fourteen. That's better knicks. I yeah you're right. He's talking about that. Yeah i mean. I mean kirby outside of his first year when he was eight and five he's thirteen and two eleven and three twelve and two and eight and two. He's finished second in the country. Seven fourth and seventh. Connie will in a minute I think we've cleared that up We can debate at the rest of the day. But i'm pretty sure that's what he meant. If you want to call back. he can clarify. We're back after this. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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You know just talking college football and hanging out with Chris Berman and trying to keep random. I got a pretty full schedule Buddy. What I have gotten I don't know him very well run into obviously. Around. Espn but what's it like to work with one of the legendary figures in sports? Broadcasting History. You know ball he's a wealth of knowledge. and. oftentimes, the mistake people make when when you arouse somebody like Christopher yourself is we want to talk a lot. The best thing you can do when you around his listened because he's stories for day, and if you listen, you'll learn your. You'll hear some magnificent stories back. You gotta remember. Before anybody ever heard a fine Bonnie McFarlane Burma started like he was there day one with the SPN Nineteen, seventy, seven, seventy, eight something like that. So he's been around a long time. He knows where a lot of killers is a very policy I I just sit around and listen to stories all day and try not to. Hurt my side laughing saw. Can, imagine. Booger let's get to college football and we are. At the mid point of some leagues, the beginning of others today we learned about the big ten we had many conversations with you before the season about what should be done or shouldn't be done. How do you think it's going so far? I think overall is probably going as well as. Could, be expected I I think as pertains to the big ten is this just came out with Wisconsin, I think the big ten is painted themselves in a corner and they're going to have to deal with whatever comes out of it as far as Wisconsin basically having to cancel a game I don't think they're going to be the only team that has cancelled game I. think if you're one of the big ten, you just hope. That Michigan and Ohio State and Penn state some of your marketing programs don't have to counter game especially as we get closer to selection Sunday where the College Football playoff is determined. I think when you look great. Thank you and the SEC dumb Paul. They did the one thing that most of America. didn't want to do which was sit back relax way be patient. Don't make a decision to you have to. You have to make a decision then you make one and you know I think so far. So good I if we could only get Dan Mullen to take the coronavirus serious I think the would be in pretty good shape but you know he wants to put ninety thousand in the understand and I don't even know what Florida's going to be the play this week they got six new so. Other than flawed I. Think yes. He handled pretty good in the big twelve. I mean th, they're social distancing their defense as always I mean that nothing nothing about their defensive. Strategies chains, and we'll see what happens with the packs with the PAC. Twelve to me is going to be a fascinating scenario. You especially dealing with what's going on in California and Arizona Those states have been a lot. They're still going through a lot and only with the Koran of our with the tires. It's GonNa. Be Fascinating to see what happens out there in California. The big picture. Starting with Alabama Losing Jason Waddell, some people have written them off which. I think is maybe premature considering how much talent? Is On that team, but it does affect them in what ways do you think it will hurt them the most. They lose an experienced explosive playmaker that doesn't mean that they don't have somebody behind him. You know guy like slave bowling our Louisiana where number eighteen and he came in and gets Tennessee had three or four catches obviously devante Smith is is is really good. They have play makers but what happens Paul is. In, Waddell was the guy that in eating when he touched the ball, where did a kickoff return a punt return of slant a hitch he could take ninety five yards and not that devante. Not. The meet you can't but waddle head that that that extra year that I if you ask Kirby smart and I know you had on your program yesterday I, did you talk to curb Kirby Smart Curb your tail you he had his best quarterback on water. He went right buying for eighty five yards like that's a scary feeling but again, Nick Sabin recruits well, nobody's GonNa feel sorry for Alabama they got other five star players on the field and as long as Jones played at the level he's playing Paul I think people are right to put Alabama and Ohio state and Clemson Kinda penciled them in the playoffs because it's going to be tough to beat those three teams Kirby said he's sticking with debts Bennett I mean not that I expected him to say anything else. But Kim Georgia survive a against Florida next week and maybe against Alabama again. With him at quarterback. No and and and if I were call curb, your takes care about telling the same thing I like the mailman it's a great story I. Love It. It's good for you know talk about it on the radio and it's a it's GonNa make good good thirty for thirty one day. But if Kirby smart is trying to get over the Hump Fall and by hunt by me winning that a championship, I, mean, you know, let's let's start with an sec title and then we can move on to the national titles. He's GonNa. Do that you gotTa have a playmaker position and look no further Paul and Georgia Lsu that have struggled. At that position, a Lotta town elsewhere what happened Lsu fall last year when they got a quarterback, I mean they it was it was records. I just feel like Kirby can have the same thing. They're Georgia I'm not sure what's going on with JT Daniels. I'm not as connected down in Athens, but it seems to me Paul that if bin is the best, they have necessarily a lot about at Daniels now neiman transferred I don't even transfer because he was going to get beat out by Dan you but evidently you know he got beat up by peanuts I just think when you go against a team like an Alabama. When you go against Florida. I. If they can out how to play defense again, because m hit them pro forty points when you walk into a house, say when you go at Clemson, you gotTa have a guy at the position that you you don't have to coach around i. feel like right now Kirby smart as having a coach around the mailman and not coach for him and Kirby wanted maybe Kirby knows something we don't I I'll leave it up to him but I just know. From a playmate standpoint, he's not on the same level as Jones as a Justin feels they trevor Lawrence at some other restaurant quarterback in this league. Let's talk about this weekend because Lsu has been all over the place and so has your your good friend Gus Malzahn they meet in an epic game the loser this game has a hard time convincing anyone that the season will be worth playing the rest of the way. But what happened Saturday in Auburn. It's going to be a fascinating display of which team. In. Which quarterback shows up you know vote Knicks quite frankly hasn't lived up to the billing. You know I remember his first game against Oregon. You Know Patrick his dad was in the stands and we were all you know cutting away shots of bow shots, Apache thinking we were GonNa have this great story but quite frankly he hasn't lived up to it joy gatewood transferred and I got I got a feeling that have gatewood was still there. The gave with might be get some snaps and as far as issue it doesn't sound like Miles Brennan is GonNa play. So now you got a freshman quarterback only played one game TJ Finley who's GonNa go on the road yeah. It's not gonNA be a hostile environment as for eighty five thousand but it's on the road in the SEC against one of the better defensive coordinators in the country and Kevin Steele. So to me Paul it's GonNa be fascinating and also intriguing to see which quarterback. Can can kind step their level of play up because families never done it on the road and Knicks hasn't done it in a long time like he struggled you gotta think Kevin's going going through a lot of Tenley gusts going to do what goes typically the there's GonNa be a Lotta Lotta tricalm in a lot of temple and you know food people but it ended today which quarterback plays the best and that doesn't turn the football I think is going to be the one that ultimately ultimately say the season because I hey, i. If Auburn loses this. Then you know I can hear the headlines Monday you know is still worth seven million if coach loses this one then we're GonNa be talking about championship hangover and maybe the book sales you know took the script going to go down for coach owes new book so this is going to be a very very High stakes game maybe not for championship purposes, but for just having a good season and kind of keeping the momentum of your programs on. Before you go off this week but I just want to get your impressions of Jeremy Pruitt Stewardship of this Tennessee program, and I know where we are all excited with winning streak but. It's been. It's been grim a grim watched the last couple of weeks. and. You know I'm willing to give Jeremy a four four year recruiting cycle before I can really judge. You know he's he's Kinda hitching his wagon to jared guarantee tunnel right now and that hasn't gone well, he's been up and down like the stock market and and hopefully for Jeremy say he can go up a little bit more. I WANNA give him a four four year cycle before I can really judge him I know they're loved the expectation fall he's done some good things Tennessee's plan better. But. If we wanted Tennessee to be what Tennessee was, you know when Peyton manning was there, which was a national program that could go in any state in America and recruit they're not there yet and it's up to Jeremy to get there. Now maybe he's waiting on arch manning to come out in the future. I don't know hey, that's a long way away your Jeremy you got out a way to beat somebody upper-echelon teams like I can't take you serious in this conference until you can beat Auburn Georgia. Florida. Lsu Alabama like I can't take you serious that you beat me more than a fluke. Okay. until tuna seeking to beat that little routine fall and and do it consistent and you know want to it over here it's going to be tough for me to take them here. And finally This is his fifth year he did beat Georgia last year but. It seems like will muschamp is living week to week in spite of having a fifteen or twenty million dollar buyout. When, when are you supposed to turn the corner even at South Carolina? Yep I thought last week's laws on the road Lsu when she was starting to freshman quarterback. When you got fifty to put on, you was it damaging a loss? We'll much that he's having a long time. a lot of momentum they. It'd be Florida but they play Florida. You can see improvement I'm just not sure what the what the ceiling is for for South Carolina like if you were to ask. The people on the board you athletic director what's our ceiling because if there really is? Probably, GonNa say when the National Championship I don't think. So okay. So what's your ceiling is your ceiling every four years when the east and go go there Mana. Okay. If that's the case then you've been, he's still hasn't achieved that. So I I would love to know what they think the ceiling and maybe you can tell me Paul what do the South Carolina fantasy when they call because I gotta be honest and Real is realistic with themselves. They can't think national championship yet. They gotta think okay. What can I win the East what did you hear from those fans when they call we really depends on the week I mean they are they are the most hot and cold fan base. I've ever heard a week ago they were feeling great and then Monday, they were right back to what's it cost to buy we'll must champ out. And Next week, they're going to call you ask you. What's going to be the capacity for the independence? Bowl, let. I we've gone over. This conversation has. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:03 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR2)

"We'll feel so good weekend. Good time out. We got a lot of football. The the rams won the trojans. Let's just a good Monday windy so good Monday. Had Lots of sports assistant get two games tonight to the dodgers had a shutout still go to it is too it is I can. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I didn't watch pitch this weekend a lot of college football ball on Saturday a ton of NFL football yesterday and I'm aware that the dodgers won a game yesterday but beyond that I got was yeah we're GONNA do anything for policy honest with you. I watched a little bit of it. 'cause it was on at the same time. It was like my balls really went to the football screen. Not The baseball eyeballs like to go traff would six fifty eight on a powerhouse. NFL Monday keys doppler at her sixty two degrees west Covina high of eighty five today where we will be Friday. Tehran has gotten in progress more details on that in a moment it is National Teddy Bear Day keys headline presented presented by Sprint Cockatiel do do do we had a great <hes>. Great Day <hes> we had a great Saturday aboy Algae Orange County at <hes> Shady Country Club. We visited that crew. You were off in another state. I went to go see DEF LEPPARD. I understand I interesting so I <hes> communicated with my guys all morning long to make sure that they got into the country club. I was women out any ish oh they didn't even Eh. They asked me a lot of questions you. You told them who you were. Come to visit the arm. Just went up. It came out and walked to my car. Walk Accord came up and took the little around the but we we have fun we watch the USC Trojan football game near Texas LSU game. Whatever Nebraska Colorado Travis was the first to arrive. Chris had to work so he's a little bit late. Rush was working. I'm assuming because you are a little bit later. Don't work weekends. Oh you. We're not working us. Just a little bit late. Okay so travis was the first to arrive. I have the watermelon cocktail tale. Margaritas now quite good by the way they in better. The more you have the better they are more. You have the better so I text Rosh Heyman. When you add tim minutes away getting off ten minutes he comes he walks into the course and he's you know filming doing whole now. Obviously there's not a lot of African Americans Kim at the country club and hanging out so what I get out of the golf cart you want you know where he is a Mike. I'll find L. Find Me Travis sitting at the bar. Travis is in his you know entire. He has his glasses on. I'm there was wearing a blue blazer and like no no no. It's casual cash go. I'm sitting at the bar. I'm chilling outdoors as big canopy you know bloom style or whatever they call it in. Rosh walks up and he walks right past Travis Travis five days a week. Sometimes more over the last several years he walks right past travis because travis blended so in that everybody in writing looking at me like hey and trying to stay high. He's coming. He's walking right towards me and I see and I kind of get up off my stool to kind of say hey what's up and he's the I just get. This blank. Look like I don't know who you are what hell as he got close up the opposite. I do like man. It was pretty pretty <hes> pretty fun to to say the least I would say right guys I mean it was it was awesome awesome. You know there seems you know how now I know it was it was not simply but but it was one of those deals where it was. We were just hanging out in any joint it as they were scoring. We were pouring they get a first down. We poor I mean it was one of those situations that that was a keys headline in the morning. You're listening to okay. Espn Los Angeles. We'll talk about the the magic of the country club and what happened late night next hour for your headline really it was like a dream. It was pretty pretty awesome like what you described was fantastic and it was a good time and there was a whole there was something that came after all that that was talking about the on a cougars era nope nope. We're not you mentioned it. Forty five to twenty and key there was this was a game that was feeling like it was going to be a runaway I mean Stanford had a twenty two three lead and you're thinking oh boy here we go. It's his on and then. SC just hit the gas and they tore them up in the second half they win. Mesa second-half adjustments and came out and in typically sc to me has always been a second half football team for whatever reasons and especially under coach Hilton Stanford or athletic ability in what we have on our team is way more superior than staffers Stanford. I know they've been a bullying a block the last several years and they like to run the power game lineup three tight ends and push things forward. They were without Caja Costello which so we were out J. T. Dies but we've found slow. Vis is a two star guy out of Arizona. I don't know how they found him. What it is about him that they like. Maybe he just fit the air raid offense perfectly the way it was designed. Zayn and I think when you look at sc whether it was Steven Carr whether it was was <hes> Saint Brown whether it was tyler vons whoever got the the football in their hands that night they couldn't do anything wrong <hes> defensively. I thought that they played better than they did against Fresno state if you're shut out in the second half but at the same time time they got some work to be done there to let let let's go to slow this for a second because he comes in like you mentioned. Jt Daniels has injury last week. He comes into relief there and it looks like slowest. This is going to be the guy for the rest of the season. <hes> we might be the guy for area go twenty eight to thirty three. He threw three touchdowns. No interceptions he looked sharp and he was twenty thirty three twenty eight or thirty three only five completions three hundred and seventy seven yards and three touchdowns and that's the question key that look this happens all the time in football where a guy gets hurt next man up comes in like. Oh snap looked at that and Slovenia. I know that it wasn't a highly recruited kid but man. He looked fantastic and you wonder if jt not Daniels isn't thinking where do I fill out the paperwork for the portal because I'm not getting my job here we go okay as far as that goes slow was played good against. Stafford at home can't take anything away from goes on a roll to Provo Utah who just came off a victory in the SEC off Tennessee. That's going to be a different atmosphere for young on May going on the road if he continues much like a Sam Darnold did look at the Times. Jt Daniels D if he continues this pad then yeah you start to have other conversation because then you'll see a defense like Utah which is probably the best defense in the PAC twelve four shutdown corners linebacker defensive lineman. They got like four or five top. How fifty type draft picks on defense when you talk to the Coliseum in two weeks so you. Let's just slow down with slowest. US enjoyed the victory against Stafford Alfred. Let's see what type of success he has against. Byu before we move onto some of these other teams because they got the Utah Washington to Notre Dame's coming up which is not going to be easy pickings. Although Washington did lose was a cow at home this year unbelievable this past weekend you know one game at a time just take it slow but there seems to be a pattern because because Klay Hilton did not go with Sam darnold right out the gate. He needed something to happen to his first choice before the second. One choice is Alabama. I'm driving right. Something happened and so here we are. It feels like a Redo. It fills even he's got everybody in front of him. He made a picked and may not necessarily been football pick but because the circumstances now he actually has the person who should be starting quarterback in that position it you look. Let's see I agree with what you're saying about. Byu The go into pro Vos weird. You're playing against older guys. You're playing against guys that are pretty disciplined. You're playing against guys. That are a certain type. They're hard to beat. They're not particularly good but they're hard to be some sense. It's a very hard out. Let's say he does go in there. Let's say he does play well. Let's say `see comes out of their three. You know we were talking about this with. Maybe a C comes out one. Go down three you know but three and slow looks looks good at that point. Jt Daniels has everything came out. I got I gotTa keep going yeah but you gotTa keep going. If you Slovaks you can't you can't see you can't go in play well against Fresno state play well against Stanford play well against Byu then all of a sudden when you get a little tougher opponents opponents you start to play azure. He's gotTa keep going keep going means like Trevor Lawrence type like you're not getting it back. You're going to have to transfer Kelly Bryant. You're not getting it back in that that there's a potential to do that. That's there but what is that. Is that ESI winning six games this year is that Esi running the table and get into the final four when tramp issue. That's how you lose your job. You don't lose your job because a guy's playing good in spurts against Oregon State. You lose your job when a guy is eleven in one ten and two just beat down somebody in a major bowl game. That's how you lose your job all right a couple of things number one. I've been watching this guy for three seasons and from the moment I I noticed him. I thought he was fantastic. There hasn't hasn't been a moment since that. I've seen him where he's fantastic. He had talking about Steven Kerr. You only had six carries in this game for thirty three yards. It's be did have a twenty five yard touchdown run in this and key every time. That man touches the ball. I'm like that's an NFL player that is an NFL player right there. They don't give him the ball in what happens a Lotta Times in systems in colleges. You don't fit what they want to try to do but they still want to. Try to utilize you at some things because you're good at added. Maybe he doesn't know his pickup responsibilities on blitz or maybe he doesn't know his past protections or maybe there's only a few runs that that he's good at that. They utilize I. I don't know why they don't play but certainly he's. GonNa play on Sundays I can for sure whether whether he is drafted high low or not at all he'll be on somebody's fifty three mayor roster in getting touches for sure because he's a hell of a back I mean he's <hes> <hes> he can catch the ball out of the backfield. He knows how to run between the tackles. I mean he's loose fast. He's elusive powerful. I mean he's powerful. I don't know what it is. Why they know utilize didn't know he's a guy two years ago. When I saw for the first time like you know what he might be the next guy he was going to be the next time be the next Trojan guy every time I bought a high high draft pick it just gone every time he touched the ball. He shoots out of Kenya so I don't know I man. I don't know I don't know how to use it is it is that the reason why you think about SC football. You don't feel like they're back. Because to your point we use my last week Travis to control the offensive line. They say our guys the better your guys you're gonNA come. Take it and you do that via exactly they. They don't take it but you do it via the running game. They're not utilizing running game. Not all AWW fast. I don't mind of imposing their will if you will. I don't mind them winning the way that they're winning. You can't be back into you win. Beating Stafford Okay you beat Stanford. We always did not just beat st well. That's not true. Hold on hold on that's not true. I say we always be staffing. I'm not saying like every single year but does not like here's the thing Alabama rolled up in here. No I get that but they were four and eight in their last twelve against Stanford this team that they've beaten recently they've struggled with Stanford and not not only did they beat him. They beat them the blackout of them but that doesn't make sc back making them back is getting to a point where you you are competing for the National Championship in your one of six teams as left to give four spots. That's when you back not. Ib Fresno State. I I beat Stanford. I had scout against Byu. That's not back back is running the table getting one or two losses throughout the year in being in that final sixth six-foot final four spot tyler higby with a new deal and a touchdown in the first game of the season right there. He's another one of those guys he stares down couple ought to but when they get in those situations since he's looking for higby a lot no hickeys a tight end. I like I like the fact that Jared Goff has a safety to safety net blankets. As far as I'm concerned with Higby as well as scuba come 'cause they're brace cooper cups tidy and even though he's playing receiver. He does a lot of things at tight ends would do. He caught a ton of balls early. You know what it is. It's time to ask Kirk. Oh wait a minute whole oh man what fears linebacker years component or cycle holder on the PAT team pre half a toast as well kirk more good morning my friend. How are you doing this morning. It was happening man just trying to figure out what the rams did. They took care of business or they did or did. Carolina let them take care of business. Obviously you watch the game with pre post and halftime and everything else travis <hes>. What did you see. What did you see from the rams that made you feel like that? They'RE GONNA wind up in the NFC championship game again cutting. Honestly everything was all correctable mistakes. I mean it's whether it's in guy in the wrong gap in run defense whether it's jared Goff misread the throughout the game early on <hes> you'll or whether it's Sean McVeigh the way that he called the game early on a lot of the things that I saw were just correctable things it wasn't effort and it wasn't like they lack talent <hes> none of that yeah. I mean they played pretty. Well defensively and you can say argument. Their best defensive player was almost inactive and that's Aaron Donald Crazy to even say that so to me a lot of things. I'm thinking that they can build on but for me. They honestly were they WANNA be. They want to be planning January convenient. They were better team when we saw them <hes> kind of that second half crew while they were in the superbowl your go do did you see anything that can get them bit though like there. was there any glaring mistakes that they don't correct correct that they wind up. You know costumes at some point during the season yeah. I think it's run defense. I mean we saw it in the Super Super Bowl. I mean if a team wants to go up and try to bloody of the rams I mean that's kind of where the recipe for success it's just one of the football and be consistent and be he committed to doing it and everybody wants to the ball down the field and you get the big yards and touchdowns and be all exciting but you know we saw the Patriots when thirteen three super bowl against the rams and we've seen teams like the Chicago bears do the same thing. It's gotta be commitment to the running game because I think that's what the rams lack size in the second level level but it also to a safety positions well. They don't have the best short tackler guys who can cover but I'm not sure if the best short tacklers when it comes to you know the run game asks Kirk Kirk quarters one through three we saw one version of Todd Gurley quarter number four. We saw different version enough todd Gurley. Which one are we going to see more often this season? I WanNa see that second version of the fourth quarter version with tagger getting carried in the second and third quarter to me <hes> kind of wasted carries. You know what I mean. The game's really not in the balance. I think it's tiger woods fully healthy. If you ask me I've been I'm trying to tell Travis. This is really think that he's healthy. I didn't believe you until the fourth quarter. The only thing is that last year. They just ran them into the ground. They didn't have the true backup where they can put them in the game. They're so comfortable like okay. Let's take todd out this series and put this guy again well. They put their guy last year and Jay got creamed. Gosh it got smoked and I looked at the game I got conflicts and don't Henderson. Obviously Malcolm Brown had the two touchdowns but it kept todd really fresh when you need them and honestly the rams for not playing in the preseason. I thought they were the better condition team and that Fourth Quarter in ninety degree you know whether over there in Charlotte with the humidity the ramparts a better conditions teams and they put them around so I think we ought to better version of Todd Gurley in fourth quarter when it's needed. I think we saw the cowboys are the same thing Hugh Elliot Asks Kirk Chris. My goodness all right. Let's go to a game here. You called it. I think it was during the second preseason game game that we were doing kirk. You said to me you said Cleveland's. GonNa get beat by Tennessee. You called it. This wasn't earlier in this week. This was a couple of weeks ago. Maybe three weeks ago you said the Cleveland was going to get beat. How did you know that was about to happen. 'cause they. Were Kurdi Boise soft. I mean you can go out and grab all their Beckham and Jarvis Landrieu and Baker Mayfield and there's game seven. You know passing tournament. This game can come down to how you're going to be up front and we watched Tennessee titans offense of line. Just you know Cleveland Up. They turned it into okay. Let's turn this into a run game. Let's see you want to hear if he really about this life and that's just what I thought I knew that they were going to take on. Tennessee is different man. They got a head coach. Mike Gabel we know from fell. He's a whole school ballot. Check disciple. HYPOL- and their defensive game plan was to do work worker make Baker Mayfield have to make choices in windows are just weren't there. They doubled Jarvis for slander. They doubled Odell Beckham. They allowed the tight end hit catch passes but when they did they tattooed him every single time and Baker Mayfield was forced to make some throws an interception the next thing you know he's on the sidelines looking around and saying what just happened but I kind of decided that from the beginning ask Kirk Kirk what <hes> when you watched yesterday's games obviously the week of football in tonight and Monday night with the two games has gone on but when you look at what happened over the weekend again who's who so far looks like the surprise team has come out of nowhere in clip. Somebody reprise team that clip. Some might just based off of what we saw over the weekend. I think Tennessee Division that before what would actually three weeks ago key I I would have found your while Andrew Luck and they're gonNA be right there. Probably you know continuing to win that division and get back you know to a deeper in the playoffs and when Andrew lucked retired. Are you really putting their division. I think kind of up for grabs so now we'll see what it looks like today versus New Orleans but I mean you gotta enter Tennessee you know top contender in the AFC south. I'm not saying that theory. AFC Championship type team I think he's GonNa clip off some wins and and upset some some people throughout the year and I wouldn't be surprised to see them in division around not necessarily believe they've got enough talent to get to the AFC championship. Do you take anything away from that Athletic Eddie Dominant quarterback in Baltimore receiver running back with a strong arm. I one he and I went out of the last one out of the building. You take anything from that. <hes> I do something out of that. I take something out that market Hollywood Brown. Nobody saw them in the preseason and all of a sudden a first name speed was real in Miami had no idea so I think a lot of that was because they had an agenda. Let's be honest. Baltimore hadn't agendas to throw the ball down. The field aged inch. Miami is already wants out. I mean I think and I kinda speak to this. Is that when everybody around you. Keep telling you you tank in your tank in worried about next makes you this and that either as a player you try not to let us see in but I think it's always hit those players. They they've are already checked out this week one and they still got not more. We could have so. It's Kinda hard to say was Lamar Jackson. Really you know five touchdown passes and all those yards or did he play against a team that was really. I'm not even listening to their head. Coach was probably team and we'd want Kirk John Wick one John Wick to or John Wick three which weakest pickiest <hes>. I think I'M GONNA go with rich one you can then that's the one that started it all right and then he's. Kinda keeps getting better. It's kind of like the fast enough theory. Go Part One and all of a sudden you start having the Hobson the song and then you'd have to fasten theory covered eight long but always watch the first you know episode of some of the first movie the first series you get back to the root of it is kind of really the reason why you've kind of fell in love with their here's a fierce. NFL linebacker and also my partner on pre happen poster in the Rams Games Kirk Morrison asked Kirk. Thanks my friend all August respect yourself ask Kirk home and the news tonio alright like this before he started getting this just so that of course is the audio that Antonio Brown unreleased of a what I would assume at least Jon Gruden assumed was a private telephone conversation that Antonio Brown put out there for the world to see Antonio Tonio products now a member of the New England patriots when we left here on Friday. I thought that there was a chance that we he wouldn't play tonight for the raiders because maybe it'd be suspended. Maybe it'd be something thing but that fast forward Monday. He's a member of the patriots as a shock to me now. I want to go back to what we were talking about. On Friday. There was kind of two schools of thought going on here. I kept saying over and over again that maybe the raiders realized that they didn't want him and they were. They were pushing buttons in an effort to get him to react a certain way so they could suspend him and get their money any back. I also floated the process of the possibility hey look maybe Antonio Brown wants out and maybe he is going to go an act a certain way so they have to suspend him in he can leave which of those two things happen because all of a sudden when he ends up in New England over the weekend every saying this has been preordained. Bill Belichick was pulling the strings a long time ago holiday he wanted to be in New England but they wouldn't send him there so he went to the raiders and all of these. I just have a really hard time believing that a Antonio Brown would trick off fifteen million because he wants to go somewhere else says forget it. I'll go over here and be with all due respect that Antonio Brown is capable of putting together a plan like that look this thing has changed seventeen thousand different times right in. I go back to it over the weekend and I look at it and I started to really try to dissect elected as much as I can understand it by putting myself in. Ab Shoes and I came away with it as if I never get the letter for fifty four four thousand fine the first letter that the intrigued me to go after mayock for never get that letter. I'm playing tonight right against the Denver Broncos with no problems at all so I look at it they sent him. The letter may accent in the letter. He was mad about that. He saw mayock doc on the field. He approached may idea whatever he did calling whatever you call them kicked football did the whole deal. They got mad. They came up. We're GONNA suspending. We're going to do this. We're GONNA do that his agent got. Ab got to the race and let's try to work it out the raiders at the same time. I was trying to figure you're out if they even wanted to work it out. His agent tells a be going apologize. Stand up there with the captains. Give them some tears. Give them some everything. We're trying to fix it. In the meantime his agent nude at the fix could be good or could be bad so I'm GonNa pick up the phone and I'm going to call Pete Carroll up in Seattle. I'm going to call John Dorsey that I deal with down in Cleveland. I'M GONNA call Belichick who wanted him Andy Reid. I'M GONNA call a few guys 'cause I can cau- aw talk about whoever I want to as an agent and it's not tampering goals coaches and general managers will say well. We're always interested if they become available. You know that's how we get to this point. It's okay you got some in your hip pocket. If they release issued a be like okay cool then they come back in the middle of the night while I was sleeping and say we're going to take your guarantees away in at that point. He liked my guaranteed money. I'll know man Dan without him. Outta here Blah Blah Blah. We'll put a video album so he escalated it to be released knowing that he asom in his hip pocket from another team. That's out there. You don't get released unless you've got some in your back pocket. You just don't you don't I knew oh I was going to be a Dallas Cowboy. A year. Early doesn't put out that release me. He doesn't put up a phone call. He doesn't know that he's got to deal with the Patriots done with anybody could it it probably was the patriots could have been. Seattle regardless of the destination but he had a deal you gotta deal for sure one hundred percent a hundred percent and he was going to be able to recoup see everybody's reporting thirty million dollars thirty million. It was never thirty million dollars. It was never thirty million he had had to get to the the fifty three man roster on the first day of the league year to be able to get the fourteen million dollars the million dollar signing bonus that was giving him in the march he hadn't even received yet so that made up the fifteen million the next year he would have to do the same thing which which is make the fifty three may roster for the fourteen th so million dollars to be fully guaranteed. That's where people are getting the thirty million dollars from. He didn't lose thirty thirty million dollars. He didn't lose fifteen million dollars because he never got it. He was never getting it until he made the team assuming you which we all could assume he's probably. GonNa make the team. He picks up nine million in a bonus from New England a million dollar based salary and he has a five million dollars centers that he may or may not even get so he's back to the same number that he was going to get in Pittsburgh which was a ten of so million dollars. Ninety million dollars wanted to get paid. You you know part of the reason he was unhappy. Pittsburgh part of the reason not the only reason but part of the reason was is that he didn't like his money that he wanted more money. The raiders stepped up with six million dollars more money and now fast forward and he's back to where he was now. He's into football situation. He knows he's got his money's the same name his money is the same his he got five million dollars of incentives to earn but his ten million dollars nine or ten million dollars that that he was on the books for him Pittsburgh. That's the same money he's getting from. New England hito full circle to get the same money that he was going to get in Pittsburgh which was was which was a no guarantee which in New England is a no Baltimore because he's on the team now so therefore he earns the money the same thing he did on the opening day fifty three mayor roster in Pittsburgh as well as the raiders the thing that's interesting though is that when you look at the timeline of at all Chris Mortensen is reporting that he went inside advice from social media consultants and at the very beginning of the conversation on instagram by posting the letter was all part of the master plan that he died from the social media consultants. I don't know if you want that due to the team if he's that devious I took is playing cowboys. Look good cowboys one of the best teams is in the NFC coming in at least on paper and they <hes> for a week for a Sunday look pretty good. That was fantastic. Lorca course cowboys there was supposed to do that press cow text throughout the game rise letting him know the deck tech is black black black pay pay all those sorts of things and I think when you look at him at the quarterback spot a lot of people questioned what type of quarterback mcdade Prescott would be but he led the charge. He beat the team news post to beat the giants. He show why he's a hundred plus million dollar quarterback of guaranteed money nor a lot of people are saying. Why would you get his guy display. Let's see a little more games with him at the end of the day the cowboys they're supposed to do you know what else gets guarantee. Money traff would all right. Let's start key with where are we finished up last segment talking about Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown is now a member of the New England Patriots. He's eligible to play in week. Two Antonio Brown will be cool in new kingland. Take it or shake it. I'll take you get. You'll act right yeah. This is what everybody has to understand about the history of Bill Belichick in the the players that people seem to think our problem with other organizations a lot of times. It's the money it's how you deal with a person how you have have a conversation. This all started the Patriot way. If you go all the way back to Corey Dillon the Cincinnati Bengals Cordella came from the Cincinnati Bengals to the New England patriots and went to the superbowl. It was a fine citizen model guide the whole thing right in Cincinnati. They couldn't get out of their own way like you're. GonNa be mad. You're GONNA be angry. You're going to be kicked off when you know you're giving it your all if people are treating you a certain way you think about randy. Moss people had him dead. I mean he was dead in Oakland. He goes there Oakland. Oakland raiders were terrible things same organization the same things they were doing on the and they're doing now creating problems. He's going to go to New England Randy. Moss catches twenty nine touch. Now's or something super bowl records all sorts of craziness same thing and then Tony O'Brien all everybody turns into model citizens since when it gets to New England and it's not because they're not is just an other places they being. They didn't want to be from various reasons. You go to England. Everything's good you win. Everybody's happy they small small and they know your name and then I found that you are not being deceitful none of those. Let's AB wants to be a star and there's Tom Brady right there. Watch e start seeing instagram posts of him. I'll smugness started some of that with the sure forty three to thirteen the final score the titans over the Cleveland browns after all of that off-season hype Freddie Kitchens is the head coach of the browns at the end of the season. Take it or shake it shake shake. Shake it because I. I don't think that they're gonNA make the playoffs but at the same time I think they'll give him an opportunity to maybe see through to some degree if if if it completely goes south then everybody's gone but if he's kind of hovering around and maybe that seven games again and we're we're building onto something he comes back next year but anything short of seventy and he's GONNA get fired. He can't have eighteen penalties. I mean do that again. He may be gone by the before we get to a Halloween Wean. I was trying to find a positive and only positive I can think of that. The Cleveland fans look really happy in that first quarter. That's all I got. That's it all right. Let's go to college football for the next one. You mentioned it earlier key that Washington loses at home to cal USC with a big win over Stanford at the Coliseum as we sit here today USC he is the team to beat in the PAC twelve. Take shake shake it off shake that the trojans are the team to beat in the PAC twelve at all. I still haven't had an opportunity to see them. Play Utah have had an opportunity to see them play Colorado. I haven't had an opportunity to see him. Play a issue Oregon Oregon. I mean there's a lot the knees he's the unfold over the next several weeks for me to really feel like they're the team to beat. Even though Notre Dame is Notre Dame and I'm not a big huge fan of Notre Dame at all. I think it's all hype they they still got to travel to Notre Dame. Even Notre Dame's not in the PAC twelve conference is still is a tough opponent is arrival and if you go there and you lose the notre dame he can affect the rest of the season so we still gotta see that back to the NFL Jameis Winston a pair of sixes yesterday. James Winston is done in Tampa taking her shaken. I can't shake it ain't gonNA give I'm arrive with Jamison to Bruce Arians. Tell me otherwise and this is the first game name obviously and for whatever reasons James tricked it off something that he's been known to do lately and I've years if he could get get on track and I think you know God make mistakes could get back on track going into film room. Learn from your mistakes and turn it around is fifteen games left in the season. What's not adding up for him why it hasn't happened because he's got all the ability in the world. I don't know maybe they handle butter limit with grabbing important question. Why can't you quit him. Everyone else can quit him. Why can't you because I'm willing to give them a chance. You get five years half decade. I mean he's done okay. It tested all right. We saw Kansas City. Look great offensively. Patrick Mahomes was great but a rookie rookie quarterback in his very first game comes in Garner mid shoe and looks good against that Casey Defense. The defense will keep the chiefs out of the Super Bowl again. Take shaky. Take it if they don't somehow fix that defense gun Cunningham whoever's running a dang thing. They're going to be in trouble. I think when you when you look at spending type of money that you went out and Eastern for Frank Clark Entire <hes> the honey badger you you look at it and you would think that this defense would be solid and sound but it's not the case they've gotta outscored opponents every single week even have an opportunity to chance and at some point that that wears on you as a coach and wears a quarterback. We'll think about it last year. The chiefs became the first team in the history of the NFL to lose a game. Despite scoring fifty points happened down the street against the rams fifty four to fifty one I mean they lost a game that they scored fifty one points. That's unfathomable. I try to tell you last week that if if you if you gotta be who threw for fifty touchdowns they can stop anybody. You know that the fifty touchdowns not coming again maybe yeah. I don't know what the stopping somebody's initiatives is always always. GonNa keep them out. I don't think they're gonNA go far next one. The Dallas cowboys attack over four hundred yards. Dak Four touchdown passes Kellen Moore the new offensive coordinator. Does it take it shake shake you. Hey we go. He'll be the next head coach. You know. What's that so you know. The white man gets credit for that. Come on now on your credit next thing. You know he'll be the new head. Coach of the buffalo bills feels. I'm not doing that. I mean no one game is against the giants. Debt Prescott is shown me with this offense. Killing more in all seriousness did a good job but the pace of the offense and and not getting plays with four seconds left on the clock none of those sorts of things so that was able to just sit back there relax scan read need. Some of the perfect throws it. He's throwing John. Kittens the quarterback coach which is a good thing you got a guy who played in the League as a quarterback coach who has some success who understands the quarterback position to teach them. Kelly Moore play quarterback in college and Pros Wayne. I've been really play <hes> who else did they. Jason geared ex quarterback. There's one more I can't think of Bhagat four quarterback tight end doug <hes>. Oh God wasn't him Doug Meyer Messner something like that. He's a tidy and coach but all four of them play quarterback of Collagen and the pros at some point in their careers so you got a guy a quarterback all four people taking the same. I'm like a quarterback. You're GonNa have some success or you should and if you don't the Jason Garrett will be the next coach of the buffalo bills. It's all about scoring touchdowns on Sunday. That's why you gotta go to Blue Dot COM P L U Chew Dot Com chewing. Nick Doreen use the Promo Code seven times and it's not a lot of money. 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