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Colorado grand jury will investigate death of Elijah McClain
"To move forward in the transition. And Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser says he's decided to open a grand jury investigation into the death of 23 year old Elijah McLean. The move gives the attorney general the ability to compel testimony and require production of documents and other relevant information. The claim died from cardiac arrest. After being stopped by Aurora police in August 2019. He was on his way home from a convenience store. He was reportedly restrained with a choke hold and paramedics sedated him with a large dose
Proper Radio Communications
"What's walling. Hey bobby great this week. We are going to dive into another requests from a listener Thank you very much to corey. Mclean for giving us this idea. And it's all about proper radio techniques. I'm sure during all your check rides wally. You have heard some crazy stuff but I give me an idea give the listeners. An idea like how much bad radiotechnique dc. There's there's a lot of improper radiotechnique. I think the end of the day that the reason we talk on the radio is to communicate and so we want effective communication And can can. We communicate effectively using Maybe improper techniques we can. So there's there's kind of three levels of of communicating the way i look at it The the top level the the the one that we all wanna strive for. I would think is that we use Proper terminology and we. We communicate effectively The the i'm gonna skip to the absolute the the number three Scenario which is where we don't want to be is improper technique and ineffective communication And then somewhere in the middle is maybe improper technique but still effective communication. I mean i guess if you were in a an unfortunate situation an airplane and you screamed and yelled that you're on fire Maybe the controller may understand your predicament and Provide the necessary. help where you know. Obviously there's a better way to do that. rather than screaming over the Which i've never heard by the way But as what. I see as an observer and that's what i am as an examiner at an airplane. I'm an observer i'm not a crew member i i am not really even a pilot I'm just observing the check ride and making an evaluation. I see a lot of of applicants speaking to air traffic control and As i'm sitting back. I'm thinking well. They said something. But i don't think. Atc really understood what that person is saying and And you need to you know as a pilot we need to pick up on the fact that maybe. Atc didn't really understand what i was getting at or day didn't understand my request one example. I always give to applicants from. We're talking about this. I say okay for sitting in this briefing room. And i tell you that there's a bomb on the table and it's going to explode in sixty seconds I would expect the reaction out of you would expect you to maybe get up and run out of the room and i'd be right behind you But a lot of times we will say things their atc an atc will will respond But atc maybe didn't really get it sometimes. We have to read between the lines. So the i think the most important thing is effective communication. And there's all kinds of accident cases where there was not effective communication. Where you after. The fact We had an accident here in houston a couple of years ago with airplane running very low on fuel down at Hobby airport and Again after the fact we all listen to it and later everyday saying how. How could the controller. Not here in the voice of of this pilot that they were running out of fuel while the pilot never really said they were running out of fuel so bottom line is effective communication. And that's what we're we're trying to effect here is is communicating effectively between the pilot and the controller. The and i think when we get the request online to to talk about proper radio techniques. There's there's a that that could be. It could be many many shows. But we're gonna try and take some what. Wally sees someone what i see around the fly school every day and share some techniques. That will make you better on your communications and give you some best practices to you. So we're going to kind of talk about some guidance at a high level. And then we're gonna share some best practices and then we'll wrap it up and we're not just taking this from experience that there is a very crisp. There's chris guidance on how to use the radio right so we're gonna reference a section of the aim. Which is the article information manual. If you if you if you talk about or heard of the foreign name there really two books. I think when. I was a student pilot maybe even a private pilot. Maybe even an instrument pilot. I thought the foreign was one book. While don't i guess. I just told everybody knows but i thought it was one book but it's really two books. The aim is the back and it. It's really good collection of information.
"j mclean" Discussed on Help! I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
"Check it out right now. Everyone thanks again like i do that. I d n- taught me everything. He knows you're wrapping. It got to work on tried chris. Harrison taught me a finger to while we were filming. I dunno. I appreciate it chris. My best buds. I still keep trying to get him on the golf course and we've yet to make it happen. He tried to get him on dancing stars and we have yet. You think it's the family right but you know it's funny before we go. You guys were talking again on the podcast about the power of bachelor nation arts. But why do the bachelor can't why can't you guys dance. Well you guys had nick on. He can't dance we. Hey nick was able to keep up with kidding. Dick and dance. Listen a bachelor to win like the bachelorettes already. Come in with dance experience jay. You have no idea how jealous i was. When i was watching nick season. You guys showed up like that son of is getting the back was. That's awesome. But i do you tell your wife that i said hi by the way and because i know she's a big fan and she's the sweetest and i'm also going to be sending her some of our polish my nail polish it. I haven't so i tell her. I'm sending some her way i will. She would love that and she's a huge fan. We're both big fans like you bringing us up on stage. That one time in vegas honestly one of the best moments of both our lives and i can't tell you how much we appreciate that because of course any time all right cool well next time you guys have torn just brakes all right cool guys. Well thank you so much in. Ha brother thank.
"j mclean" Discussed on Help! I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
"I remember going to your apartment for the first time i saw like obviously everything is decorated seemingly by ashley and then you go into the man cave room and it sells very well decorated. I wanna point out. It's not like a. Because like when i think man cave decorating my rooms. It was like a college dorm room. You know like you have like just posters on the wall. That aren't afraid or anything. But your cave actually is like it's like an upgraded version of all of the things that we were in college. You know what i mean. Well i'm not going to say that. Ashley didn't have a hand in that. Well i wanted to decorate it. Exactly how i wanted it to be she x. That out and that was impossible so it was like a compromise. I'd say seventy thirty. Seventy percent was made thirty percent was her. She just wanted to be pristine. But we'll see we shall see. I remember when you came over. Those atomic imagine that was good night so competent to i've never lost a game of mad at my life and then i get roasted alex. Thirty five against you played well that day. My friend so do wanna talk about christmas gifts. Because it's the holiday season obviously. I'm assuming you're going to get something for ceylan for christmas. And i was thinking about one. I'm going to get for ash. And i was looking it up online and i came across this article on a website called money money under thirty. I don't know what that is but the point is it's pretty good article and it's called love and money gift giving right this christmas and pretty much. It's the idea of like changing your whole changing their perspective of christmas gift giving like she. She makes the argument. that like. don't just get something for the fact of getting something you know like my parents all the time and i love my parents and i were never changed that but like the amount of times. They've gotten me button down shirts. Or jackets that legitimately have never worn in my life like. There's this green and black plaid shirt. That i always have in my closet and my parents got it for me like seven years ago for christmas from xpress that i've never worn and i tell myself every year i'm going to wear it but then i look at it and i'm like i just don't do it. Don't wanna do it. And so this article says you know everybody has different love languages and so i'm trying to change the way i give gifts so instead of being like well. What should i get ashley. You know something practical. I'm trying to think of gifts in a way of giving them and experience so for example for our anniversary this year instead of getting ash. You know a gift. You know like a toaster. That'd be horrible but you know i'm going with this one. I got her getaway at monarch which is a resort in southern california. And i figured. I put my money to good use theory to create an experience like a romantic getaway. So my when. I'm saying is dean. Have you thought about what you're gonna get for kaelin and are you thinking you might get more of an experience or you that type of gift giver or you..
"j mclean" Discussed on Help! I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
"What is up sookie daters. Welcome to all new episode of help. I suck at dating. I don't know if you guys believe this or not but we are only three weeks away from two thousand twenty one. That is absolutely mind to me. Anyways it's jared and myself and We have very special episode for guys day we have. Aj mclean of the back street. Boys is can be joining us today. cheryl burke. Dancing with the stars is going to be joining us today. They have their own podcast. Will podcast food cast to put cast. It's pretty pretty messed l. and Renee l. zodda. Alesando are gonna be joining us. Stay while they're the host of pretty messed up a little bit later but before we do that. I just wanna talk to jared jared. I feel like we haven't really chance to talk. It's always been co host guests. We've never really had the the you know the one actually. I really strive for week in week out. Where are you in the world right now. I'm in santa monica okay. So you're back in la. So how's the house. Have you seen it if you've been to the land. Are you guys building. You guys just bought a brand new house right. It is a brand new. It's currently being built to house. Kayla's grandparents live close by. They walked over and took a picture of it. It's you know it's framed out. It's about as far as they've gotten so about four or five months away from being finished but have you guys seen it in person. We have seen in person yet. It's actually kayla. Because i started talking about this killing looks over at me. And she she grimaces and she says you told them that we buying a house. 'cause i guess like like i said we're still early stages and so you have. It obviously officially got keys yet. So we don't want to jinx anything but you're just putting out into the universe that's off. Yeah well it's embarrassing for some reason. We don't get qualified for our mortgage loan but it will make great content so either way. We're good on this podcast. Yeah we're churn out content. I guess that's the most important thing. If you're not enough content on this podcast me you will be able to afford a house eventually in la that is right right right right. Which would be great. So so. that's what we're we're hopefully. I don't know if i did a good job explaining last time. But so we're buying a house in las vegas near kaelin's grandparents in her an uncle and it's in a little suburb. We both really likens close to her family. Also going to be signing a lease here in los angeles to rent a house because we want to be in los angeles but we will also have the option to be in las vegas close to her family. So we're kind of going to be back and forth But obviously la's is too expensive so we're not gonna vine la so that's kind of where we're at you telling us that you telling me last week that you guys are buying a house. Leasing a place in l. a..
A Man of Wealth of Taste
"The quest for immortality the urge to escape the inevitability of death has long been a preoccupation for us as evidenced by the ancient sumerian poem the epic of gilgamesh the oldest example of written literature known today in the poem written sometime around eighteen hundred bc in mesopotamia. The titular gilgamesh part hero part. Arrogant demi-god undertakes nordic Mission to find the secret to immortality ought to being confronted by the inevitability of his own death though we might not be demigods like gilgamesh his desperate refusal to accept the inevitability of his fate is a deeply human one and something that many of us can sympathize with whether we elect to place our hopes in the promises of religious teachers or in the invention and imagination of our leading bio gerontologist those that studied the mechanics of aging throughout many of us. Who haven't contemplated the possibility of existing forever in one form or another however although some of those may want for it being mortal israeli portrayed as something desirable and at the very least. There's something that can only be achieved at a great cost from the burdens of connor macleod in his pursuit to become the only remaining highlander to the pitiful efforts of melmeth the wanderer to convince another soul to take on his pact with the devil in return for another one hundred fifty years of life. In fact we take great pains to dissuade ourselves from wanting it. Perhaps this is simply to provide some comfort in the face of such a futile desire. But it doesn't stop us trying back in october this year. A team led by tel aviv. University professor shy f ratty published the results of an extraordinary study in the journal aging study to determine the effect of pure oxygen on the aging process involved placing thirty five adults over the age of sixty four in a hyperbaric chamber and giving them pure oxygen for ninety minutes a day five days a week over the course of three months through this process of frats team found they were able to successfully limit the build-up of senescent cells in the body cells. The today's to the point where they can no longer replicate leaving the body. Susceptible to many age related diseases incredibly not only to this delay the aging process but actually reversed it. Aubrey de grey. One of the best known by. Oh gerontologist has long insisted that medical technology will one day allow us to control the aging process. Even making the stunning claim this back. Two thousand and eight that the first person who lives to one thousand years old is already alive today through some however who'd say that this person isn't just a live right now but they've already lived to be a thousand years old. You're listening to unexplained. And i'm richard mclean smith. It was sometime in the seventeen. Seventies that counted adema marie-antoinette's personal attendant. I met him for her. It was his is most stood out. They were like nothing. She never seen before his teeth to were immaculate and all the more noticeable for being framed by such a thick head of luxury jet black hair and his clothes were simple they were nonetheless made from the finest materials decorated with the most exquisite jewellery. It wasn't a period. She assumed would be accompanied by a certain steely if not arrogant countenance however when she finally plucked up courage to approach one afternoon at the court though was penetrating so too. Was it soft and inviting despite everything countess. It heard about the man. It was quite something to see him. Finally in the flesh looking no more than forty five years old and yet it was back in seventeen forty three over thirty years previously. The first appeared mysteriously one day at the palace of versailles home to king of france. Louis the fifteenth looking exactly the same age
Idaho health board COVID meeting ended due to "intense" protests
"Boise, Idaho, Different story. The idea of more covert restrictions not going over well. Protesters keep showing up at the homes of City Council members hold public health officials abruptly ended a meeting Tuesday a request from Boise Police in the city's Democratic mayor, Lauren McLean, did push back there. Over coronavirus mandates and protests outside board members. Holmes has been one person detained, but they indicated that they have the situation under control. It is not under control of my house, and it's not under control of Diana's house. The board had been expected to vote in a four county mask mandate and limits on gatherings that opponents colon, constitutional and unfair. Idaho's governor, Republican Brad Little urging calm so the state can get through the pandemic together.
Most of California to enter sweeping new virus lockdown
"New restrictions hit southern California much of the San Francisco Bay Area and a large swaths of the Central Valley Sunday evening and an urgent attempt to slow the rapid rise of coronavirus cases the California department of public health said Saturday the intensive care unit capacity in southern California and Central Valley hospitals had fallen below a fifteen percent threshold that triggers the new measures they include strict closures for businesses and a ban on gathering with anyone outside of your own household Burbank resident marine McLean told KABC she's not surprised by the new rules I'm definitely taking more precautions because I have parents that are very high risk and so we definitely are keeping our space from them the new measures will stay in place for at least three weeks and that means the lockdown we'll cover the Christmas holiday I'm surely antler
How Author Emily M Danforth Discovered Openly Bisexual Early 20th Century Writer Mary Maclane
"School. And i'm like i know but like i am just trying to. I try to tell you quickly. When did you get your hands on. Mary mclean and her memoir. And what made you think oh would make a great noble. I didn't. I didn't think that i was just just reminded of this. Because i was trying to figure out exactly what it is. I've been talking about the book. And i've been saying is in my late twenty s. It was sometime in grad school and my office maze My second year of grad school told me recently. She's like i know when you got it because you wouldn't shut up about that book and she didn't like me particularly which i didn't know the time we're good friends now. She was kind of annoyed to be. My office may learning all kinds of things right so already. She didn't like me. Apparently i wouldn't shut up about mclean's memoir so it was. It was roughly around. Like two thousand eight and i had read about her. I was doing research about diana where she lived when she wrote the memoir this mining town and i thought i was going to set a story. There's sort of colorful place at the turn of the twentieth century Read about her and then filed that away and looked her up and became really fascinated but became fascinated with her because a new the legend of her right before i read the memoir itself and so he knew that cocktails had been named after her and she blazoned her licensed her image to a cigar manufacturers are and that she was openly bisexual rights in nineteen too many new these sort of like interesting facts about our that. Our book sold eighty thousand copies in the first month. But i did not know how much i was gonna love the book. And that's i think the thing that really sort of seeded itself. So i was like oh she seems fascinating and then i got the book. Like spoke is so funny. This book feels like something that i would sort of think right now. Right sheets Writing yeah absolutely. I was reading and i was like i feel intensely like this would have been may as well right and you look. How were you thinking these things and they miss. You wanted to title it. Wait the doubles coming. Which is like the best memoir of all time so it was once. I read the book that i really serves a new that like some new. Do something with it. But i was well into writing a different version of plan bad heroines. That really was only gonna tell the present-day story of the of the making of the sort of curse horror film. Before i kinda figured out that mary were play a role. You know what i mean. So it's not like this perfect light. Oh i found her more than i said. It didn't work that way for like. I have to find thing like this is probably looks familiar to you and i think a lot of creative people like i have to find a thing. Like let it marinate for a long time before figure. Oh yeah so i mean. I can't say enough about her book. I think one of the funny things about doing press for this book is just the number of people that one thing. I made her up even like go look at her wikipedia page. And i'm like murray mclean would not like this. I feel like. She's turning over in her grave reducing. I'll be thrilled to think that like you know You know it just shows you. How many people still don't know about her like unreal to me right. How of there have been scholar since the seventies kind of trying to lake collector work. In and a number of scholarly books published really of writings about mary mclean and a couple of good memoirs in melville house reissued the book under its original title but but even still like an alarming number of people. Don't know anything about awesome. Yeah i where we decree history. And i never had a pet until we got an email from your publicist saying. Hey do an episode about this. And look at emily's your. I was like ooh this looks gay. It's so it's so. That's the thing is like i mean. Now you've read the book right like she's so explicit in her longing in her desire right and she's like trying to find the language of the day to say like. I want to sleep with my former teacher right. Like it's just it's yeah and so even when i heard about like hurt like you might see like bisexual or sort of some sort of coating coated thing. I was not prepared for just how gay the book would be when i write him right. Like how many entries would be devoted to these. You know this this this real. She had on her former teacher. I mean it's you know it's it's it throughout the book. She's talking about her. An anemone lady so yup became sort of know. I think like. I became kind of haunted by not mary mclean. That wouldn't be the right way to put it. But but certainly
Caring for Each Other Is Political
"So angela as we are recording this introduction. The election has happens but there is still a lot of uncertainty and unease about what our country's gonna look like overall and how or if we can ever get back to a shared sense of reality and what are your thoughts on this I mean i guess just to tell you where i'm out i'm like do we ever have the nation shared sense of reality. Radio like the country started as people coming here and being like we're just gonna take this land from people and kill them right that we've ever had a shared sense of reality for the like the growth and development of this country. People thought it was okay to own other people right. So that's where i'm starting from. Yeah and i am going to laugh because it's really a i don't feel i don i refuse. I don't think i can. I can't afford to give up hope right but it's really hard for me to imagine like i'm sort of obsessed with this idea of this shared reality like in this moment i think about like americans are obsessed with freedom brave. That's our big thing right now. I feel like for like half the country. Freedom means you don't have to wear a mask rate and for the rest of the country it means not getting covid and dying going bankrupt. So i don't know like i'm with you like i feel a tremendous amount of unease and uncertainty rate and. I'm definitely reckoning with the idea that there's no nothing that happens in. This election is going to erase or fix what has happened. And what is it doesn't just negate the last more than four years. You know what i mean like. It doesn't just wipe the slate clean and fix everything. And so there's a lot of uncertainty. And i think uncertain t is really really stressful. And we really only have to look back to just a earlier this year. In march as covid lockdown started around the country to remind ourselves what we've already learned personally and collectively about navigating national global uncertainties so our our recent history actually could provide an important guide in in the days and months ahead. So today we're sharing a really powerful conversation with author. Danny mclean danny is a journalist and wrote the great book we live for the we. The political power of black motherhood danny is a forty two year old partnered parent and lives with her four year old daughter in cincinnati ohio. Her own mother and her daughters paternal grandparents live close by danny has spent years researching reporting on networks of support around chosen family really grounded in the experience of black mothers in our conversation with her. We dove back into those moments of fear and uncertainty at the beginning of the pandemic and distrust. We had in our government's ability to lead and give us clear directions to keep us safe. I think reflecting on this moment in our very recent history really provides for some insight into what we need to remember as we navigate all the new uncertainties that lie ahead. Let's take a listen to danny reliving that time of early lockdown and how she was reacting to the news and conversation she was having with friends. Okay what we have to do is just go in our homes and shut the door so whoever your family is that you live with dot is your. We use this language now. We didn't use it back then. But pod right. Those are your people and you can't go outside of that and so the other people who are parents started talking about how they were going to care for their kids and those people are also partnered so it was all about when my husband. And i are going to do this in like it was just kind of a assume that they would be able to retreat in their homes and shut the door and like be able to survive. It was obvious to me as soon as i started understanding. What social distancing required. I can't do this. Because i live alone with my daughter. I was going to have to figure out how to stay safe and also maintain contact with the people who support me and raising my daughter. And so i just remember kind of feeling like i'm on my own i have to figure out. What does it mean to parent. You know my daughter can't go to preschool. I supposed to care for her win. I need help. I need help that i can work.
Father of Anthony McClain, Black man fatally shot by Pasadena PD, northeast of Los Angeles, files lawsuit
"Pasadena and several of its police officers are being sued over a deadly police shooting in August, and Lenny McLean was shot and killed while running from police following a traffic stop. Nearly two months after his death. His father is following a federal civil rights lawsuit. Attorney Michael Corio says Dashcam footage shows McClane pose no danger to police officers officers. The first thing that he does is he whips out his gun and Anthony's running away with his back toward the officer. You'll see this on the video video with with Anthony. Anthony. Nothing Nothing in in his his hands. hands. This This officer officer fired fired twice. twice. One One struck struck him him and and ultimately ultimately was was the the kill kill shot. shot. The The other other one one grazed. grazed. The The Pasadena Pasadena Police Police department department says says McLane McLane was was armed armed at at the the time time of of the the shooting, shooting, and and detectives detectives recovered recovered a a gun gun at at the the scene scene with with McLane's McLane's DNA DNA on on the the city city of of Pasadena, Pasadena, declined declined to to comment comment on on the the pending pending litigation. litigation. You You could could see see the the video video of of the the shooting shooting on on our our website website Ko next 10 70 dot com.
Man Sought in Rape Attempt on Silver Line Metro Train, Washington DC
"Police are investigating an attempted rape on a metro silver line train. The attack reported on a train between the McLean and East Falls Church stations at around 11 30 yesterday morning, Metro says the attacker assaulted a woman who was traveling with a small child trying to remove her clothes and exposing himself before the train reached these 12 church and she was able to escape. Police say the assailant border that really rest in east and exited later at foggy
How Does Captain America's Shield Work?
"The official marvel comics database says that Captain America's shield is a metal disc that's approximately two point five feet in diameter and weighs twelve pounds. But Rhett Lane at wired magazine did some math and figured out that it would be more likely to weigh forty three point nine pounds despite the shield being made of a unique alloy combining vibrant. NEOM, which is. A fictional metal steel in an unknown third component. Elaine also figured out that the density of the shield would be somewhere between eight, thousand, seven, hundred, sixty, seven, and four, thousand, three, hundred, eighty, three kilograms per meter cubed. That is somewhere between the density of iron and titanium. Now in the Captain America Comics Story goes that Dr. Myron McLean was attempting to replicate Hercules Golden Mace fusing. Vibrant NEOM with an experimental iron alloy some say it was a steel alloy but even McLean didn't know what it was because he fell asleep when an unknown catalyst was introduced to the process he was never able to duplicate the process. So the government painted the disk and gave it to Captain America. But how would you forge such a thing? Especially since metallurgy is so complicated just The forging temperature alone depends on the materials carbon content. It's alloy composition maximum plasticity in the amount of reduction required. Was it heated by induction or by continuous fuel fired furnaces with material this unique you'd have to carefully control the heating process. Now, Ford ability is how easy or difficult material resists de formation and since Captain America's shield is indestructible, it would have to be a very Narrow forging temperature range meaning it could only be forged for a short time after heating with metallurgical factors like crystal structure chemical composition in grain-size at play the only way McLean could have diminished their influence would-be by adding alloying wants possibly compounds that easily dissolved with the metal. There are all types of elements that could have been introduced, but it's likely the captain America's shield was forged. Like a super alloy, this is how metallurgist refer to iron base nickel base in cobalt based alloys. Specifically, the ones that offer very high strength at high temperatures. These really high strength metals and iron based grades are the least difficult wants to work with. So that would narrow down Mcclain's experimental alloy to iron super-alloys are really difficult to forge because of their narrow temperature range you can't. Even use regular sizing presses in hammers on them because they will deform. They even wear down the tools designed for forging them pretty easily. They're also extremely expensive like ten times. The price of carbon steel sounds a lot like captain America's shield right. But how do we explain the shields ability to absorb kinetic energy supposedly from the vibe rhenium in the alloy usually materials absorb kinetic energy. Through other mechanisms like plastic or elastic deformation or dynamic fluid flow but cap shield doesn't seem to be an elastic metric material and it's not organic like polyurethane in the movies it actually seems to reflect vibration rather than absorb it like when thor hits with Mueller in that first avengers movie and the shockwave flattens a whole forest. Perhaps that was because the shield reached its absorption limit. Another thing that's tough to explain his how aerodynamic the shield is. If it really weighed forty three point, nine pounds, it would be difficult to throw even for a guy in peak physical condition like Steve Rogers the comics Tony Stark actually puts electromagnet under the shield to help control it in mid flight but captain America later ditched them because they upset the shields natural balance it seems like the soldier and the shield are made for each other.
Europe Is Fighting A 2nd Wave Of Coronavirus Pandemic
"In Global Corona virus headlines, there's a new and very ominous warning about a resurgence of the virus across Europe CNN Scott. McLean. Is Monitoring the situation Scott tell us more. Wolf across Europe governments are scrambling to head off the second wave of the coronavirus which is already eclipsed the first in weekly new cases. France, and Spain of really taken the brunt of the viruses resurgence with Spain reporting one hundred thousand new cases of the virus just in the last ten days the World Health Organization calls the situation in Europe very serious and says these latest numbers ought to serve as a wakeup. Call UK is doing more tests than any other major European country, and yet it's still facing a shortage of them at the worst possible time across England nude daily Covid nineteen infections of increased one hundred and sixty seven percent in September, and now a million and a half people living in parts of north east England are facing severe new restrictions that ban almost all in-person socializing with people outside your own
"j mclean" Discussed on The Bobby Bones Show
"Hey, guess what's happening? It's bobby bones. Thanks. Check it out the PODCAST. This week of the radio show you know sometimes a pop in here and we put these up on the weekends to share a bonus episode of of one of the podcast that we do with you guys, and here's one of the cast members of season twenty nine of dancing with the stars starts on Monday maybe it's already started by the time you hear this, but it's Aj McLean he stopped by my house to do an episode of my music podcast called the bobby cast and opie subscribe to that. But I wanted you to hear this. You know we talk about starting over. With a country music career, we talk about the backstreet boys. We talk about the one song he's tired of playing live. It is a great hour long conversation with Aj that I wanted to share with you and be sure to subscribe to the podcast wherever you're listening to this. Now, go over and subscribe to Baba cast. If you do you have good luck for the next twenty, four hours if you don't, you're bad life than twenty hours. Yeah. Go subscribe now you can follow us on Instagram at the bobby cast, but let's go back episode. Two. Oh one he's on dancing with the stars. He starts this week a j McLean from backstreet boys..
"Hey welcome to in the thickness is a podcast politics race and culture from a POC. Perspective. HORSA and I'm Jerry Galloway. Rela. We have a very special guest joining us from Southern California Jacob Sobre. He's award winning journalist correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC and Hey a best selling author. Now, what's up Jacob? So good to be with you guys you know have wanted to do this for so long with you and I'm I'm just grateful to be here with you together I know he's a fan. He's a fan of in the thick fan. Yes. We love that we love fans of the pod so. We're going to be talking about an issue that you have called an American tragedy and this is the issue and the history of family. I don't even like that term because it's really families being ripped apart torn apart. In your new book separated inside an American tragedy you readers through a very intimate look into the policy into the families that have been torn apart and traumatized. You also talk to policymakers and government officials who ultimately were responsible for creating and really promoting this is stemmed separation of an estimated five, thousand, four hundred children from their parents at the hands of the government and I. Say. And still counting. Yeah and despite the fact that president trump signed an executive orders supposedly ending the policy of Charles Separations in two thousand eighteen, the ACLU alleges that there have been more than one thousand family separation since that executive order and more recently propublica reported on how the trump administration has used the corona virus as a pretext to circumvent the normal legal protections allowed to migrant children. So since March ice has circulated thousands of migrant children through hotel black sites making it virtually impossible for lawyers, family members and advocates to locate them and deported them in order to quote prevent the introduction of Covid nineteen into the US. Even though many of the deported children have tested negative for the virus. So Jacob here have reported on these issues for many many years. These policies you know predate trump. So before we get into the current iteration of this shit show, I wanNA talk about looking back into that history and actually. You great job of setting it and in a moment we'll talk about how it's touched of us. Really personally. But Jacob. From your perspective, talk to us about the origins of family separation and how the stage was being set for these policies way before trump entered the white. House. So yeah, you gotTa tell us how did we get here? Yeah. I think Maria. That what the trump administration did and we talked about ripping families apart family separation what to call this really what it was in the words of Physicians for human, rights and Nobel Peace Prize winning organization was torture at met the. Definition of torture according to the United. Nations it was government sanctioned child abuse according to the American Academy of Pediatrics and you know make no mistake. This is on the trump administration's hands. No administration in the history of the United States of America had ever attempted or done anything like this in a systematic way. But the fact that the trump administration was able to execute this policy was only possible because of decades of failed deterrent based immigration border policy by Democratic and Republican administrations. This will come as no news to you. But for people who don't know in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, the Clinton administration put into place their border patrol a policy called prevention through deterrence. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring record number of new border guards by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before by cracking down on illegal hiring, which was designed went along with the first wave of border infrastructure walls. Fences what have you and the idea was that by doing that people who are migrating to this country quote unquote illegally would have to go on more dangerous or deadly journeys to get here and sure enough you know many people have died trying I e let them die trying. Let them die trying. That's exactly right. After the Clinton administration. We had the Bush administration which obviously created H S and expanded the border patrol exponentially dozens of agencies charged with Homeland Security. Will now be located within one cabinet department. With the mandate and legal authority. To protect our people, the Obama Administration obviously deported more people than any other president ever no matter how they are. No matter their reasons. The eleven million who broke these laws should be held accountable and we got to this place where we had donald trump is president saying when Mexico census people, they're not sending their best they bringing drugs. Crime, their rapists, often not the pictures of Jay Johnson walk through the same facilities that I saw separated kids in and look yes. The Obama Administration Limited circumstances did separate parents and children from each other and the reason that they did it was circumstances where you had parents who were perhaps violent criminals or dealing a narcotrafficking but they never did on a systematic basis Jay Johnson? The Homeland Security Secretary, or Cecilia Munoz from the Domestic Policy Council. Bowl said to me on the record in my book we could never do. What the trump administration did it doesn't mean the idea wasn't proposed. It came up, it came up in the situation of the White House but they never did it and the minute Donald Trump became president. This idea was on the table right about a Valentine's Day meeting and twenty seventeen and the officer Kevin McLean then the acting commissioner of Customs and border. Protection they wanted to do this from the get-go and now the results of of this policy are very familiar to all of
"Dancing with the Stars" cast revealed
"Cast of dancing with the stars has been announced to star of the Netflix documentary. Siri's Tiger King Carol Baskin is putting on our dancing shoes. So you cool cats and kittens Jesse Metcalfe, known for his role on the TV. The show. Desperate Housewives will try to win the mirror ball on season 29 beating against singer Nelly, Ice skater Johnny Weir and Backstreet Boy A. J. McLean Banks will host and pros will be quarantined apart even if they're married to prevent a double elimination. Should one test positive for covert.
'Tiger King' star Carole Baskin to 'Dancing With the Stars'
"The next season of dancing with the stars will include musicians actors and an animal rights activist I'm marquees are loaded with the latest Nelly and Backstreet boy AJ McLean have signed on as celebrity dancers for dancing with the stars so have actors Jesse Metcalfe Skai Jackson and Justina Machado and Carole Baskin who became a sensation as part of the Netflix series tiger king others will participate are Kaitlyn Bristowe of the bachelorette and a bell star Vernon Davis and Olympic skater Johnny weir Tyra banks will host the new season which premieres September fourteenth on A. B. C.
Britney Spears' Ex-Husband Wants Her Back
"Events daily pop. Hey remember when Britney Spears married Jason Alexander for just fifty five hours. Well, he wants her back now. Yes. They're right. Jason was spotted at a free privy protests at the courthouse yesterday he told us weekly. He still has love for Britney and he'd quote definitely the open rekindling their romance quote if they would give us an honest chance. Is he serious right now old what is furious? Is this heat in? Los. Angeles put that photo backup with the orange shirts. I can see that under boop sweat real quick. You know how hot it is in this Place look at. That alone. Look better though. Her he looks good. But I just like what is this guy I mean he clearly has nothing going on like the fact that he's GonNa show up even just give us weekly any sort of exclusively come on. This was how many years ago twelve thirty claims that two thousand four was when this fifty five, our wedding are. happened. They were childhood friends they got married very briefly. Now they've been I think in touch a little bit throughout the years I doubt recently my goodness. So the things he had to say about Sam you guys San has to be so livid right now. Right. So he said I got to see this code and he said I don't know him. He looks like he's in good shape but I'm in good shape. So Bravo to him she's got some type of feelings for him I. Guess I'm like Oh, my Gosh San if he ever sees you, he's going to punch you in the face. He's never gonNA. See Him this guy ever not a factor in her life, and this is the problem. What happens is even though he went there with good intentions quote unquote this just makes everything that Brittany's fighting for a spectacle and it makes it joke and if he really loved her and really wanted to be a part of her life and really wanted to help her, he would have stayed away from that camera and not became this headline. One hundred percent, and also for him to be like if they gave us an honest chance, she doesn't want you like I. Don't know who they. Does not she has no interest in rekindling your relationship I. Promise you that I don't know where he gets off thinking. Oh, if they just would just believe in our love like she's not petitioning for you bro at all, she's not looking for you in any day. Ever Gosh tell it like it is mortgage. Ed I love the. If a man sit outside like that for me I would feel some type of way about it in the. Sweat It's always flattering, right? It's always flattering to see. Talk about how he wants you back I. Mean it's Nice to hear whether you care or not of. The protest was held at the courthouse because there was a hearing about getting Brittany's data removed as conservative as we told, you yesterday according to court documents I'm really wants her care manager Jody Montgomery to step in permanently. So Jason has thoughts on that to telling US weekly Britney doesn't want to be under the conservative ship and he wants her to get what she rightly deserves. So how does he? Oh, how does he know he has not been in contact with her is will be. Governed from ghost talking to this man talent him where Britney saying he has no idea and Britney has said exactly what she wants and this for him. This was kind of a bold move because this hearing wasn't about changing anything this hearing was about let's check in. Let's see what's happening. The real hearing will come once they file papers and once she puts in court writings that she wants this change. This guy's making it worse for her get off her bag they offer not it's just. Weird. Do you think the intention because he wants Brittany back or he wants his own fame or he just was truly going there out of love for Brittany, and truly feels that she feels trapped and was trying to be a voice for her? What do you think I can't believe this I can't believe this is our Abe. Block. Are you kidding he therapy for fifteen minutes and it's going to be four because this is the last time we're talking about this. This is insane person. We have not heard one word about this person in sixteen years six I'm too hot over this. Crazy. You'll get the fifty. He'll get the fifty because what will happen is Cara Delevingne will see him on the news noticing that he's getting airtime. So then she'll date him to make Ashley Benson Jealous, and then he'll get twenty minutes. Oh my God. We're bringing car delving into this way. Okay. Well, let's move onto a couple that we've also talked about a couple of times before. New Year. So Tomorrow Laurie Lachlan and her husband Massimo are scheduled to be sitting for their roles in the college admissions gets scandal at the same time. The government's recently filed sentencing memo raises questions about what their daughter Olivia Jade may have known. So here's the new stuff. You guys. So Libya is never mentioned by name in the document, but they're quote. Younger. Daughter is referred to specifically prosecutors say in one incident Laurie Mossy Ma and they're quote younger daughter discussed how to avoid the possibility that a high school counselor would disrupt their scheme. So the family has not spoken out, but a source close to the family says their daughters had nothing to do with this. So if what the prosecutors are saying is true. That Olivia Jay did know about this do you feel she should be punished as well as her parents? Here She did no I just hello even if she knew or did not know she is a child and was a minor at this point in her life. That age you do as your parents tell you to do you follow suit you. You'd even realize the difference between right and wrong I could barely drive through MC. At that point by myself, give me a break. There's no reason that this young girl should be punished for anything like I understand her parents made a mistake we've been talking about it when I was reading the research is warning I was like for over a year literally been talking about this now for over a year and it's dwindled down to two or three months and five months number one. The she was seventeen. Leave her out of it. It's not relevant for her to be involved with the fact that their names are mentioned I get it. They need to be to kind of paint a full picture you do what your parents, how you to do. This is how we're getting into college. Sweetie you go. Okay. Mom just let me know where I need to be et Cetera not true Morgan you do what your parents tell you to do but let's say let's say you've got some awful parents right? Like I'm not saying these people are saying you got some awful parents and they say honey were broke I want you to go steal some milk and some candy bars and some cereal, and you know what? Go ahead and grab that xbox to they won't even suspect you. You're a teenager just go do it. Okay. If they get caught that could go to Juvie or get some sort of legal. Question. So Matt Your question. Your mother. Makes you sign your name on legal documents that puts you as a as the lender on alone and your mother then defaults on it ten years later should be. Held Liable Harris of thousand dollar loan that your mother made you sign for when you're seventeen or would you fight it? Well that's different because you would never have hypothetical situation that happened in. Dollar Loan. Drill, trust. It happens on sweet bitter. I just saw show where it happened. So where do you bring up that example? I agree with Morgan when you're seventeen years old if my mother would have told me sign the papers for this D to my kidney I wouldn't have asked two questions about it because my mother told me. But my problem is. This is the problem my judicial system we're sitting here worried about what a seventeen year old may or may not have known meanwhile Brianna Taylor's killers walking around free and the people who accosted Eliza McLean have not been nothing has been done to them. We know exactly what happened. We've seen the camera footage we've gone through everything. Why are we focusing on this and not focusing on what we do know?
New chief of embattled Colorado force wants cops to see bias
"The new police chief in Aurora Colorado's apologizing to the families of a young black man who died after chokeholds last year and the girls who were handcuffed during a traffic stop this past weekend there's a new chief in town and Vanessa Wilson a white woman says she's committed to working with officers to identify and eliminate any racial bias that might affect their work like the handcuffing of several black girls lying face down after a stolen vehicle check that was a Rohingya say never should have been treated that way it was it was in humane and just unbelievable to watch and I know that people are angry and disgusted by what they saw and install my she says she's already taken steps to change the response to suspicious person calls like the one that led to a light Jim McLean being put into a chokehold last year the twenty three year old black man died days later hi Jackie Quinn
Three Colorado police officers fired over photo reenacting chokehold
"Three officers from the Aurora Colorado police Department of Unfired over a photo reenacting the chokehold that occurred before the death of Elijah McLean. The 23 year old black man died in police custody last summer. Interim police chief Vanessa Wilson. It shows a lack of morals, values and integrity and a judgment that I can no longer trust to allow them to wear this badge. The officer who mimicked the chokehold resigned earlier this week of photos shown by the chief shows officers
"j mclean" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"If that group of people are in the room, you should still feel comfortable doing it is always think and and I think now audiences are having that conversation with themselves so I think if you'll being rigorous about your approach Sarang comedy. What subjects you cover? This. How did you feel about because. Back into this stuff I was doing in the noughties was. was. Everyone was pushing things as far as they could. Really, and there's definitely been a you know but I think I always even in the nineties we were still we would always discuss the repercussions of unwanted. What the point of them was! Saying I don I think I think I can pretty much defend nearly everything. As not just necessarily good chances are it's it's gratuitous. GRATUITY is is poverty, I think when I think the thing that's changed is now things get taken out of context a lot more readily easily. And because the social media. Just even like this and I just There's a thing that came up this week, so there's a group of people on twitter. Who Because one day I tweeted? When Sam Smith. Came out saying they wanted to be the. Pronouns and I said Chile justice polite to cool people. Buy Whatever they want to be called. You would just do that as a course of action so this and then a lot of. You know Gremlin. Like people included grey linen. Got In touch me. That was wrong and that would mean people with raping people in toilets if we started doing that. And so I didn't. I replied to two people, and then there was this avalanche people I stopped replying to anyone because. It's not worth I don't like these people I. Don't know where they're coming from I. Wasn't I could understand both arguments that point out of sympathy for? Some of the feminist arguments that that. I did have point actually. These people maybe think now you can all go fuck off. Anything I signed the way they the way they came was just awful, but I stopped. Replying to anyone, but then someone said within that conversation retiring has replied to all the men who've posted a none of the women and so. I don't know what sex they were I didn't check that. But you know. I just stopped replying very quickly and then even now someone put list of people. Who Will Not reply to women about subject nine replacement so this week? Twitter I picked up personal and said this isn't in any way. But the way that like something taken out of context and something that stated by someone, because even grandma and it was gonNA reach Y Y. You're prior to the women, not the men, and then I couldn't reply to anyway because he was a man of I replied to. Separate. But I wasn't doing that, but I couldn't say that's not what I didn't do that because that would be pretty much, but you know it was amazing. How that among some people that is that there's a fact about me. I am a I'm an anti-feminist because I want let me respond to men and not women, which I don't think you. If you reflect twitter, feed would bear even as a regular thing, but you know that if you take one joke, might one joke, and you can take junker Michelle I didn't two thousand seven and putting out on twitter and people go. Oh God. But within the context of the show it would work is you know it? It worked as the journey of the character Richard. Herring check so yeah I. Mean I think things have changed in that way, but I think yeah. I would hope you can still. And I still think for most people I think most. The vast majority of people don't actually give a fuck which isn't a as isn't a positive thing, but makes people think I still bamboozle by most of these these arguments about this, but yeah I mean I think it's not. If! You A- confident that you understand why the the target will joke water is. In in my case is nearly always myself. Then I. It sort of find, but yeah, it is. It is a win. They I'm glad that I'm glad that. Dark humor is not been ruled out in the you know the for example that we start talking about the hung over pregnant sketch of. Film, you know got you say some people get well this period blood in. Is that too offensive and. It's the opposite of that is is actually it's the minute you said that that he. Is Weird, but. People would. Would not want. Yes, that's so that's. You can't take into account every single criticism. You get something you've. GotTa. Come from your own from your viewpoint, but yeah, it's been. Thirty Years Obviously I've seen a lot of changes in. In. What is acceptable, unacceptable company, but I think a lot of the stuff in the ninety s that would not look back and go. That was awful. I felt quite I. Felt I was saying other people doing those things and feeling quantum factor that time, so I think that's probably why I can still wet now because I didn't. Didn't didn't I? Didn't really enjoy. Stand up in the you have. The male dominated lavish. Stand up with the ninety S. I kind of felt really embarrassed about. And I think means to sort of largely that we were in loaded and things occasionally, but we are always embarrassed when we were. It not like all right. Wait loaded. But also that we all like thing I think is important is. Like, don't we reserve the right to grow and changes people like I definitely would understand. I'm show if someone. Went through my twitter that stuff's I'd be like that. It's fucking horrific. I don't know why felt that was funny. That may be some like. Edgy twenty-three-year-old Castle an on an. It's the whole thing like. Especially when you're taking tweets from someone history I'm being like they. They use this word what they was. The I, mean they? Do it, but yet Mari Black the brilliant pay. They'll be like. Oh, look what she said, but Matt's was like. Oh, she's foul mouth and she stupid. No this kind of stuff like but look. She's an incredible impatience. Passion she. Don't get to dismiss her body of work because you manage to find one tweet where she doesn't come out of a brilliant. If you're going to be a pious also so like look at what people are doing what they're putting out in the world, not just what they're saying what they doing like. Will look like with you like. With when you do on, November nineteenth such a fucking thankless bull, like thing to do to raise money for refuge, unlike if you're going to take away from that, you don't care about women like that's not. That's an agenda that someone's bring into to the table. That just isn't isn't true. Yeah well it's. It's interesting to see all that stuff, but yeah, absolutely right and I really high. I hate the idea of anyone making A. So bad that there is no, unless it's then driving a bus through school Yuksel. Bring, you know there's. There's no way back from two sets have an opinion. And then what do you want if they if someone? There's this idea that people are hypocritical if they then changed mind, but that's surely what you want want to. You digging up all this stuff it's it's fascinating. I think that's what has changed as opposing. Comedy is just an everything's on record. Thankfully most of the stuff I did. As a teenager or a young in my twenty s you know is not accessible to anyone. Terrible terrible. Thanks you. Might you know but I think you know? Basically we would write a diary in my diary I've read bits of diarrhea and shows in headmaster, son and A lot of awful stuff in there. That I wouldn't like people think. Belief that. Better anyway, yeah, it's it's. It's interesting, but you know I I. I can't see comedians changing that much that they won't be dark streak. There can be at most comedians have at least a doc streak in them jug, celtel backstage the seldom on stage. And this and I think it's it's about whether you trust the person I surprise. The audience has to trust the, and if they do trust you, you can sort of say anything because they know what the you have that complicity of friends that you can do you do with your friends with an audience, if the audience trust us in that way, they know. That, you're coming from the right place if you're employing irony or if you've just you just pushing things into place to. Because because a lot of companies, surely about That release valve of the world is often awful place..
"j mclean" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"Is How deeply flawed I'm really the I need. At least once. A RIFFING! Are you just doing you just figure stunned upsets? People just sitting down the camera this coming up and trying to know what they were in a club or they were a bit of both. It's a hard thing. 'CAUSE I. Put on my facebook page in the day I was like. What do we what we do? This club like great use what we can't keep going forever. I'm not pater out I. Don't get support For the Comedians all the charity say. An so people will sort of chipping was I. Put a new person on an as a thought about that, but then doing is putting on a very inexperienced act into a very unusual way of performing and because I think it takes real like some people nail straightaway, and some people need to sell themselves down in Tokyo. Way into it. But it's some people have just stood up and done this sat and it's like it's a bit like doing radio like you do it down to one person and and it works, but it's amazing. What brilliant amazing comedians get in their head about just doing it on a Webcam. not doing Joel Dome It. I mean like doing this stunned up to a web count so. So I hope it, and because we do on Zoom, people pay for front or ticket, which means I just go right? Let's have a chat to someone, and they can raise their hands, and it's like Natanz Pie. We go into the house. It's so. We also competitions. Every week is great. Right? 'cause we're really lucky I'm leave town via like literally last week when we did the quiz that have really great neighborly Trussell, and they number like we can give you some bid to give away, so it means that we can chat to people and give bear. Why do these competitions because basically trying to make a bit of a community on its work beautifully from so nice and supportive on all the Shit himselves, and then they come off, and they see all these amazing comments on instagram and twitter on you. And you get that validation back, it's so lovely and we have music sought with them. Have I am able to break normally a week because of drunk too much, and then we have two more acts, and and that's it and I just just I usually do immaterial before bringing the first comedian but it is to slightly a bit a couple of minutes long. The rest of is all just crowd wickets comparing Sure sounds great. So where do people see that if they want to Trudy wins Winston extra comedy at the Cova Dot Cova all the information's there. The next one is Saturday in. It's who we go on. We got an let me say his name right. Even spock's who is from the WHO's who like I've been watching the game. Can I come to music? I like fucking lutely, yes, good and Got Russell. Kane, Angela bonds delete search upon debt, so it's a broom rising. Bill I I'M GONNA sort of interesting. Because I I worry. As much about the COMEDIANS which I'm worried about. We try to write some money to help comedians through this, but is the clubs as well so whether they'll be even if there are no clubs when we come back but I wonder whether there's a way fullwood for company cleaner comedy clubs. Can Do same as you and maybe charge people like a couple two or three quiz. If you get, the whole, can get an audience around the world of a thousand or so people. Then you then you can make that work because evening. But then also when they come back, maybe they should be live streaming gigs around the world as well because it is much better seen live comedy life, but I don't think we're going to be able to do it effectively for a year. I would say you know certainly. I mean three months is is the best possible and now looking more like seven right more months I think before we get back and then, if and then whether people will turn up to to see live gigs at night. So I think my online, it might push. It might be a positive thing in terms of pushing promote is in understanding how much they incident could be a positive thing and also comedians as well to understand that they can. GET FOLLOWING POSS- real mine I, it's been a really interesting thing to say, and this isn't like an. Is. I. Think it well. HEADLINE TO BE? It's complicated because I'm not telling anyone how to manage global pandemic in terms of their workload in the house,.
Officers investigated over photos at Elijah McClain memorial
"Water. They're accused of taking disrespectful pictures at the memorial for Elijah McLean, the black man who died in police custody last August. In a statement Monday, Aurora's interim police chief said the department has investigated a report that multiple police officers were depicted in photographs near the site where Maclaine died. Sources tell CBS News those officers were imitating the chokehold. McLane was placed in just days before his death and that the photos were shared with other Aurora police officers. The police Department says it will release evidence of its investigation into the inappropriate photos, including pictures, and the officers identities very soon. Laura Podesta, CBS news judge says the former Atlanta police officer
"j mclean" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish
"They think about things what could be more interesting than that or even on this Elon Musk piece I did going to buffalo in meeting employees who worked at the solar city factory there and hearing their stories, just human stories on a narrow micro level but human stories. That's just the best what stuck with you that you remember from meeting buffet the big thing that stuck out to me. This is going to be a little bit. A little bit odd was that. Was a long day. I was pregnant with my second child. I think I had the flu utterly exhausted by the time we got to dinner. And I was it was kind of running out of questions to ask them to be perfectly honest. I was tired. And I remember thinking. Oh, I can ask them about giving his money away to bill and Melinda Gates, and this is going to be awesome, because all billionaires like to talk about all the good, they're doing in the world, and how altruistic and philanthropic they really are, and he'll just talk, and I can just hung drink my milkshake and sit here, and so I asked him, and he looked at me, and he said well I don't. Don't really pay much attention to that. That's not my focus of interest. I mean I want to help the world and I want to make the world a better place, and that's why I'm giving away my my money, but I'm not really good at that at figuring out where the money should go, or about what what projects are the most worthwhile. It's not my passion. It's not where I where I spent my time, so you know. And and I, was like no but I it. It stands out to me because there is that. Maybe it's back to that argument that are part of our conversation about people spikes there is that figuring out what it is? You are passionate about in relentlessly interested in, and then you're gonNA pursue that thing with a passion and creativity in an interest level that is different than things that you don't have that for, and so maybe I made me think that. Maybe some of life is figuring out how you do the right thing. Thing in the areas that you're not passionate about you know if you're warren, Buffett and billions to give away. You don't say I'm not interested, so I'm sitting on my billions. You say this isn't my passion, so I'M GONNA. Give my money to somebody who has passionate, but you don't pretend to be interested in the things you're not you, don't you? You? You are very precise about where your interests and talents lie. That's really interesting. especially given the diversity of the stories that you've covered from Enron to fracking to the housing. Situation where where does your interest lies it in uncovering story? Yeah, I, think I think I'm far more for better or worse far more of a generalist I just like to try to figure things out so when I hear something. That's interesting. That doesn't make sense, or that seems provocative. I. Just want to figure it out. My interest is not specific to one area. It's just specific to the general idea that there's this conundrum. Conundrum or problem are interesting thing that I don't understand coming to the the buffet meeting. Did you change anything about what you do? I mean one of the one of the things that I was thinking of. There's like other things in your life or your I spent a lot of time doing this, but I'm not passionate. Therefore, I'm GonNa like outsource it or give it to somebody else or just not pay attention to it. I think I do that pretty naturally anyway. I mean I. Don't know how to turn on a stove and nobody with any sense would never let me get behind the wheel of a car and get in my car with me so. So I suppose I do that. Pretty naturally on some of the mundane aspects of light. On Sunday you're trying to get better. No, I harbour this belief that one day I'm going to go to cooking school and I'm going to merge a master chef. You know in my seventies or eighties or something like that, but I'm not now no! I'm I'm sticking with being take. What would you say people's biggest misconceptions of you? Me? Oh I don't know I've. Had People say to me Oh you're much nicer than I than I than I would have thought so i. don't know maybe there's that because they review and build you up into this thing that you're. You're not I think maybe I have a tone in some of my in in my stories. That sounds that isn't. That may be lax lacks humor. How is your skepticism around Businesses in general translated into what you do for investing. I don't invest I have zero interest in it I mean it's almost pathological in some in some ways although. Maybe it's a good thing in that I've never had the temptation when I hear something really interesting going on in the world whether it's Enron is a fraud or the subprime mortgages are going to blow up. Our economy or fracking doesn't make any money in this industry is going to implode the last thing that crosses my mind as ooh. How should I invest my own money? Just doesn't I think oh? That's a great story I wanted to tell that story, but it just for me does not translate into any kind of accent I would take in a personal portfolio kind of admirable in a way, because then you have nothing to lose by reporting something that you believed to be the truth, right? It's not admirable. It just is you know it's not like I am interested in putting the idea. I've heard to work and I. Don't do it because that's not the right thing to do. It just doesn't even it's not even interesting to me. What's the next story you're working on? So I am I'm figuring that out. Is there anything that it's particularly get your interest well I'm back to looking at at fracking, because this idea that which is what captivated me about it that the industry wasn't financially viable. Despite the fact, there's this juxtaposition with fracking or this disconnect in that that these two ideas exist simultaneously, and they're both true yet there they they were in such conflict with each other in the two ideas were that. fracking and the incredible levels of production of oil and gas is changing the global economy and reshaping geopolitics, and the other idea is that this industry doesn't make money in isn't financially viable and the idea that those two things could could coexist was really interesting to me. Talk about cognitive dissonance, and that's now proving to be true as the industry is imploding, or the financial weakness is becoming the defining feature of this industry and you now you now see it imploding, and so how that plays.
"j mclean" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish
"The piece I wrote was shell musk's flaws and show. How always a truth teller he can. can be a bully who is an a liar and someone who is going to line his own pocket and I. Think those are all valuable facts to know as we think about Tesla, bigger picture, but you could also make the contrary argument that maybe those flaws don't matter, and so in the broader sense, maybe the peace will prove to be wrong because musk will be everything. Has Believers say he is both true? You have somebody that does. I'm trying I'm struggling to think of an example of somebody who's exceptional at anything. That doesn't also have incredible flaws in other areas and I'm not saying this with you, but just in general like we look at these these very exceptional people, and often were looking at one aspect of their life, or they might be exceptional, and the rest of their life could be falling apart right so they're not maybe not well rounded individuals in that sense. That's so interesting Jeff Skilling used to say that he liked people. People with spikes and what he meant by that was that he didn't like well rounded genial average people. He likes people with a really exceptional characteristic that defined them, and that may come at the expense of other characteristics, and I think we took that when we wrote smartest guys as a bad thing, but your question makes me think about that and think. Maybe he was right. Maybe there is something to be said about that. But maybe as you think about people in in a business context, the trick is which flaws matter, right? So in the case of Elon Musk doesn't matter that he doesn't always tell. The truth doesn't matter that he's a bully. I'm not sure it would be really interesting to try to think through what flaws matter. Just what particular right? Thinking locally here is I have friends who are incredibly successful. But if you told them to drive their kids to school, they'd be like. Where's the school? I have no idea right so they're not necessarily. This wall rounded family person. but they are incredibly successful at what they do in part because they have this relentless focus on on that to the cost if you will Yes, but I think re relentless focus on one thing to the exclusion of other things, the different argument than a character flaw right that said we we all have character flaws, and sometimes I've thought just a little bit analogous to the visionary and fraudster argument that life sometimes turns on whether you end up in a situation in which particular flaws are on full display. Right because we we all have them and some of us just get lucky and. And our flaws aren't pulled out. Highlighted at other people just stumbled limelight. Other people just stumble into situations where their flaws become the pivot on which all else turns, but we're all flawed right, but in the in the context of a business as you look back as a CEO's character, our leaders character what flaws matter to the success of the enterprise, in which which ones don't come back to that question. I'm going to actually pose that on you, but. I was thinking as you were saying that. Maybe that's not a character felt. Maybe it is right like if you're not there for your partner, or you're not a good father. Is that or mother or is not an aspect of character Steve Jobs would provide that right? Could you be the exception we draw rule from this, or is this say he could be an part of part of what's gone wrong. In modern Silicon Valley is that. That everybody believes is the rule of right, so all sorts of character flaws have become forgivable, because hey, look, Steve Jobs and look what he did and flaws of almost become a good thing, because that those sorta towards your philosophy, a marker of brilliant strikes. You can't possibly really good unless you're really suck and all these other ways. That's fascinating. I hadn't even thought of it in that way. Right like you can't be exceptional unless you. Talk to me, but some of the flaws that. We think don't matter if you're running a business so I think people tend to see this intellectual charisma or the ability to intimidate others around you into belief. As a good thing because we all follow that kind of blindly, but I think that's probably not a good thing. At least if you believe that a collaborative environment and being able to second guess and question, and here doubts is what makes for a better outcome at the end of the day, then that personality type would be utterly antithetical to inspiring the kind of collaborative open environment that we all say we want yet, so there's. There's a hypocrisy in that or a conflict of the in in that we all say we want this collaborative environment, and yet we tend to follow people who don't foster that because their own cult of personality is so strong. Do you get more skeptical as you dive into something when you see somebody with a strong called personnel, I do I do just because I've seen it in so many cases where it hasn't ended well. Are the cases where a dozen real well Steve, jobs right? That's total cult of personality. Maybe again. Maybe it comes back to your argument about I'm trying to think of another one there I'm trying to think of another one, too. I'm sure there are others wasn't the founder of Genentech. Right I'm just blanking on his name, I think he had a cult of personality I think. Phil Knight Phil Knight at Nike, who arguably Belsen, incredibly successful business I think he had something of a cult of personality I think Jamie diamond does. And I think he is a fantastic CEO but I don't think. I think I guess it's different I. Don't think from what I've seen of Jamie diamond. He does actually foster an environment in which people ask questions and push back and are quite an are quite are quite open, so maybe that's what it what it hinges on other other flaws in people that get you Get Your Business. Look. You're writing side excited where you're like Oh. This is getting more and more interesting other than this cult of personality well, certainly, when people are obsessed with their their company stock price right, but that's an obvious one, but that relentless.
"j mclean" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish
"Mike Pearson was the Slovenly Guy with everybody knew it a drinking problem, and yet for some reason he had that same intellectual charisma I think they both had this in common that they took an old business that was problematic in the case of Enron. Energy men in the case of Mike Pearson Pharmaceuticals and said we're not just a company where reinventing this industry. We've got a better mousetrap and I. Think for people who think they're smart. There's something very alluring about a smart person saying. We've, figured out the system we've cracked. We know something nobody else knows. We've cracked the code. Right and then I think there's just there's a certain amount of confirmation bias and all of us right Enron. Stock did really really well for years. Valiant stock did too so it wasn't just that the market was reinforcing the belief. It was also that smart people could look at the crowd of shareholders and say look at all the other smart people who are here and I think that the the lesson from that is just because a lot of smart people believe in something actually doesn't mean it's right. It doesn't mean. Mean it's wrong right and that's obviously a data point, but it doesn't mean it's right. US pook with a lot of the smart money is in valiant, or you're familiar with them. What happened after volume collapsed with those people? was there a retrospective and admission of Oh? I made a mistake or was it like this is just the odds in investing, I, think it depends on who it was I think it's been pretty devastating to a lot of people and I think the smarter more thoughtful people have spent a lot of time trying to think about why they got it wrong. I think they're still a little bit of defensiveness. In that the viciousness of the way, in which valiant fell is reflective, I think of the point. I made earlier that this company made so many enemies that once the tide turned. It just turned. But I think people have really tried to think about what went wrong and her me. One one part of that is when a company is doing something that might be perceived as highly unethical it. There's this odd Almost leg because everyone knew that valiant was taking existing drugs, and raising the prices on them to unconscionable levels at everybody knew it, but for some reason there was this weird inability to see that what a big problem that would become when it became widely known I remember sitting with an investor and valiant, and he was talking about Martin Shaq Rally in how awful what Charlie had done with Derek Prim was, and I looked at him, and said wise valiant any different any thought about his well. That's a good question. And, so there was an odd inability to take what was widely known and understand what would happen when it really was widely known I. Think it was research for this where you had a friend with Wilson's. Hud. The nerve to take the copper. And there are on this dollar a day. Drug in valiant had raised the price to three hundred thousand a year from a dollar a day. And I thought that that really speaks to the human impact of some of those know. The flip side of that is like they need money to do rnd. And and so where do you draw the line on that? How do you think about that? Having done so much research into the well weirdly enough I. I am actually more sympathetic to Martin. Short even than I am to valley and even though. I'm not sure Martin had he had. The time would really have done what he said he was going to do, but he said that with the price raise Sarah. What he was going to do was funnel that money. Those profits back into our in D., and I don't know I guess I'm fifty fifty part of me thinks he really would have done it, and the thing is valiant wasn't doing that, so their whole premise was their promised to. To investors was. We don't need to do our day, so it wasn't an argument of. We're GONNA take. The prophets were making from this and invent new drugs that are gonNA save people's lives or figure out a better drug to take to treat this disease. It really was their argument to people and investors repeated this to me. was well this drug? Even three hundred thousand dollars? A year is still cheaper than the cost of a liver transplant. Transplant and so as long as where cheaper than the cost of a liver transplant, then it's fine that we do this so I think some of that speaks to just this murky moral line in in in things in a way that laws can ever legislate right i. mean drug companies just didn't use to do that. That just wasn't the way they operated you. Had Merck famously create the drug that helped blindness right for almost as an altruistic. altruistic endeavor because there was just this sense of a company is being an actor in this broader world I think is the focus has been on shareholder, value and prophets above all. It's just narrowed the prism through which executive see the world, and it's become very tempting to say well, if it makes money than it's good, talked a little bit more about the company being than ecosystem. What are the moral obligations? What are the responsibilities the UC? accompanies having, or is it solely to the shareholder? I struggle with this because. I understand how in a very complex world how appealing, it is to have this bottom line ideology, because clarify right. If you get to say, my only responsibility is to make money if it makes money than it's good, then you found your God right then. Life is very simple and clear and complexity. You can cut through the complexity with single-minded goal. If you don't cut through that complexity, you say well, if it makes money, maybe it's not good because it's hurting the community, it's a lot more complicated. And how and how do you measure that then right? And that can become in of itself that belief that a company has a broader purpose can become a cover, an excuse for a lot of bad behavior to right because fake altruism is almost worse than single-minded profiteering right. So I don't know I think it's really interesting. When the Business Roundtable came out with that statement in the fall that accompanies, purpose is broader than than a bottom line. There were no metrics around there, and there was no even thinking about. How do we gauge this right? I think the other part of it. That's interesting. Is that when you look at the history of corporate America up until the Dawn of the L. B. O. era in the eighties that was the purpose of company. It was supposed to be broader in General Motors was Mama America and Apple Pie. We'll take care of everybody forever, and that doesn't really work either so I guess to summarize when people think about the purpose of a company being more than a bottom line, most people. People think this is something new. It's not new. It's old and it didn't work perfectly the last time around either so you can't just say that you actually have to think about how you're going to implement it and I think we're just at the very early stages of that interesting, because we often think of it that mostly with public companies, but private companies are also companies, and they have a lot more freedom in terms of how they operate with social or other moral consideration..
"j mclean" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish
"American Apple Pie thing about stocks rising and believe such that the you you would think in a rational world. It would be exactly as you said somebody who has a skeptical view. That view would be just as welcome as somebody who believes, but it's not. There's this idea that shortsellers are bad people, somehow because they might profit if something fails and that was true back in the day when I wrote about Enron even journalists said to me. Will you took a tip from short seller? How could you do that I I thought everybody's. Everybody's biased. Company management is biased. The analyst who is a buy rating on the stock is biased if for no other reason than confirmation bias, right and portfolio managers who owned The stock biased and so yes, shortsellers bias tube. Everyone is but there is still this in you. Even see it on twitter today in the Tesla battle that somehow shortsellers are less valid. Human beings are their point of view is inherently evil, because they they don't believe in the company direct line from that to sort of like people getting hurt or losing money, whereas the opposite is not equally true. Right or you're selling something that might hurt somebody in the future, but it's not as visible. It's not as tangible. Although. Counter argument would be that a rally overvalued company who stock eventually collapses under its own weight is going to hurt a lot of people when they happen 's. So why not have the view out there? So that doesn't happen and then catch up. Innocent people in that in that plunge taught me a little bit more about this bias towards belief that we have. How does that affect people inside? The corporation is is why we don't have more whistle blower I think it does I've I've often thought about this because. I left an investment banking job and went to Fortune and I guess ninety five and I thought well, if I had gone to an executive recruiter, and they had said there's this great energy trading company down in Houston Texas what about a job there and fight ended up at Enron what I've been whistle blower, or would I have been a believer and I like to think the former, but I suspect the truth is probably the latter, because I think I think culture is so so important, and so if you're inside a company and your pay depends on that company. That's the Great Upton Sinclair. Quote, right. We can never tell him. Anything of his wallet depends on him. Not hearing it. Something like that. If you're inside a company and e-, everybody else believes and your economic wellbeing is dependent on the company doing well and the stock doing well the idea that you're going to be able to again shift your perspective and step outside that and be able to see something that isn't in your interest to see I think that's beyond most of us. There's a reason that whistle blowers tend to be outsiders right. That's a really interesting observation. You also covered valiant. Talk to me about the differences between valiant Enron can talk when I start with a similarities, please gene so I think the way in which they're most similar is not super obvious, because most people think of Enron as a giant fraud right, but it, but it really wasn't. Most of what Enron did was actually perfectly legal, so I I coined. This term wants which I love, which is illegal fraud, and that's what what Enron was. Because most of the transactions they engaged in even the ones that appeared to be the most problematic, actually met the letter of the law. It was very much a follow the rules sort of. Of argument, but totally violate the spirit of the rules managed to follow the accounting rules, but totally misrepresent the economic reality of the business and valiant in that way was very similar, and that most of what valiant did was actually legal, and that's why you didn't see any prosecutions. After very few prosecutions after the fact, just a few lower level people in the subsidiary business, so they're both equally problematic companies in different ways, but they have that in common, which is the way in which an ethical failing can actually be more damaging than illegal. If that makes sense, oh, and here's another way in which they were similar. I'm doing that around the similarities. I am on the differences, but I think about this a lot that if a company makes a lot of enemies as it's on its way up, you have to be a lot more skeptical about that company than about an average company. Because when the tide turns, it's GonNa. Turn viciously and what I mean by that is that everybody hated Enron because of their arrogance and their callousness in the way, the company and its employees behaved other people. Their competitors hated them. Regulators hated them, and so when the tide turned, it turned viciously in the same thing was true. True valiant everybody else in the pharmaceutical industry hated them particularly after the battle with Allergen David. Pie was beloved and Mike. Pearson was not and so when the tide turned against valiant at turned viciously, and so I think that's a an interesting, an interesting broader lesson, the ways in which they were different I. Don't think the substance of the valiant story was accounting misrepresentation the way the way it was with Enron you could actually see pretty clearly that what valiant was doing with its with its numbers. There are a lot more of Enron shenanigans that were really hidden from from plain sight valiants. Wrongdoing to me, really centered around the price. Increases the way they were increasing prices on drugs to transparent. What was happening with valiant? Why did so many smart people get fleeced I? Still struggle to figure that out because that is actually a remarkable difference from Enron in that with Enron. When you got to what was commonly considered the smart money people, either weren't invested in Enron, or they were short, and it was largely long only funds an index funds and what we think of. In terms, but the dumb money that was that was invested in Enron in valiant, that was not true. Some of the smartest investors we have from SEQUOIA TO VALUE ACT TO BILL Ackman were big believers in in this company and I still can't quite figure it out I think a lot of it comes down to the power of personality and I think Mike Pearson. WHO Like Jeff Skilling was a Mackenzie allom had just this incredible intellectual charisma, and for both men was somewhat unlikely Skilling was kind of a door transformed himself into this naven..
"j mclean" Discussed on Bertcast's Podcast
"From highly athletic backgrounds. Kevin like the football kid and Brian's did every fucking sport night hate him for that but because I'm not athletic at all Gulf because the only sport I'm really good at Dolphin Bowling Bowl. Those are my sports and people joking. Those are on sports. No they're they are sports okay. This thing called the PG or the PBA. That's what they're just chew really kind of like roll southern boy like when. I Say I'm a southern boy and somebody says where you from. I'm like Florida. They're like that's not southern on my south as you can get get amount Magellan more south than Texas. Yeah like Kevin Rider Balsamo Louisville and Lexington Kentucky. You know. They grew up in Church They're just like home town boys you know. And they're just very tied to. I mean Brian Behind. Closed doors can be Berry Assertive as well as Kevin. Kevin's the oldest. So and he's a he's a different level of perfectionists than the rest of us really behind closed doors. They're both very assertive very passionate and believe it or not a lot of times. They bark heads because their family. But they're both like Donald gators like they're very much the same so if the two of them start going out and about something three three of us are just like we're going to vote on to catering now and when you're done just doubt me on the shoulder by each of us brings a different something like believe it or not. Brian is not not so much anymore. He's a little older now but he was always the clown he was. Always the goof fall all he can do voices. Donald Duck having sex which is one of the funniest things you'll ever hear in your life Like you know an Kevin has always been that older older brother mentality like. I have to take care of you. Guys. I out to look out for you guys. It's like we actually reach other how we always the sweet one call sweet dis a little while at lover. How in Irbil Tino? I got named the bad boy. Because what because I got tattoos on a colored my hair this is before retouched a drink or a drug and on the big pussy and the entire group like I have the biggest labeled you will you in nick. Nick I think came into it later but you definitely got labeled the bad boy. I thought it was because your beard choices. I mean maybe I mean I used to do my own been beard back into date. Abbas before I ever was introduced to a straight razor. Thank God I would have probably killed myself. Beckstead by accident but You know nick was the young one but yeah I got labeled the fuck bad boy and I'm like if you only knew how anti-bat boy am. It's it's like night day like I'm the biggest pushover I I've gotten better. I can NAS. I'll now I feel more like I can speak my mind. I cannot just go along with things. I'm like no listen. This is my opinion. Take their leave it but before I would just go with the flow to not rock the boat. But it's just amazing to me now how we've all come full circle and how some positions have changed like when it comes to music. Maybe on a certain song people are kind of following me. And Howie in our in our vision or it's Evan Nix Vision. And it's it's it's it's constantly evolving. Which is what's so great about a group. Like dyson sat. Were we always try to have the same backstreet? Sound which is our sound but the sonically musically lyrically production-wise. We always want to keep evolving. Keep trying new things and changing and we come from a diverse background music. I mean Nick. Back in the day was bumping bone thugs and harmony. And biggie and I'm listening to see CR and three dog night and it's like houses ever GonNa work and now is the opposite. Mixon Classic Rock and I'm listening to hip hop and then I never whites tip off but now I love it. You know. It's it's interesting. It's a brave brave interesting dynamic. What are your kids listening to Right now both my girls are obsessed Radio Gaga obsessed. But what I think is. Awesome is my oldest daughter's first album that she learned word for word. Was Frankie Valli After Frankie Valli. I introduced her to Bowie. Then my wife is the biggest Beatles. Fan Ephram meets Knows every song by heart knows the history knows everything so beals was next and then daddy's brew came in and that was a big thing for both my girls for the longest time but now it's kind of Wednesday pointy You know a lot of females but I'll show my oldest thinks that Zach Ephron is a is a god as most boroughs do but what I loved was as family. We all were obsessed with the greatest showman soundtrack which is one of the best movie soundtracks. I think of all time really such an amazing movie. I've never watched a movie is amazing. Music is amazing because what is so genius about the guys that wrote that that also Lala Land. Every song on that movie could be on top forty radio like that's how they write music that's the actual but it's still very like contemporary and it could be literally played on kiss right now which is so frigging awesome about. It's a great great movie. Great move over to watch that. Yeah we just watched chats. I thought it was good. I mean everybody. Fashioned is good. That.
"j mclean" Discussed on Bertcast's Podcast
"Funny like you know so many so many of my guy friends today are like throw. I've been a fan of your's music since you guys started and obviously in high school and middle school it wasn't cool to like the backstreet boys you know like even though we did we didn't say anything and my best friend of childhood best friend. My best man in my wedding was a huge. He loved US. He loved insane. She loved elephone he loves. Ot at all of them and you know it's interesting that lights here. We are two Roman. And you're telling me about loving elephants record. I think that's amazing. It's amazing I love. You know like I so I was in a band. In College. Kicked out of Alba terrorist. He formed a band called creed but nice. Yeah yeah I know who talking about. He's still cars. I know he still lives in Orlando more traumatic. Does I just heard him? He's he denies it ever happen. But Trust me. Me Bracken Day John Baker and Ben Carter was the highlight of our lives. Now I would have been a rip off limb biscuit band in second. That's but But you know I. It's you can't deny good music. Good music that get stuck in your head where you keep saying over and over again. We were watching. Two nights ago I was watching with the girls. this em and at the end. Yeah you guys show up and Leonine just my wife and I just started singing and we know every fucking word and my daughter's obviously weren't even born when you guys were A. Yeah and they're like wait. How do you know this and my wife's like Oh honey? You don't know the backstreet boys. What so my wife's been playing on repeat. Oh that's awesome dude. What's funny so when I got a. I got a text from us about us being in the film and he's like Dude we had ending. It sucks and we reference you guys. The first ten minutes of the film. He's like would you do this and I'm like I'm I'm definitely. Let me let me tell the fellas let's see what the script is. We loved it when shot in like six seven hours taught taught all those guys putting choreography Craig. And all those guys Jay Jay's from Canada as set but Jason Canada he the biggest backstreet played Fan. And I love the due to debts. He knew the choreography already. We there is no teaching J. J. New which was amazing when the film came out. I saw screener but I wanted to go see like in theaters and the only available showing was at the arclight on over in Hollywood but in the twenty one in up theatre where they saw alcohol. So I go with my with my now wife and a couple of our friends and it's like twelve dudes that's it and they're all drinking and I'm like Oh my God. Oh my God oh my God and are seen comes up and I just start sinking into my share like. Don't look this direction. And Sri of the dude stand up and start singing it at the top of their lungs. Word-for-word forbade them and I'm dislike sitting in the back. Like all proud on my. Yeah that's me. Burger right there and it was such a great turning point. That's what really kicked off. This new kind of upswing for us was that was the first thing. Vegas happened after that and just everything else just. Bali is falling into place. But doing that was so much fun man. It was so it was. I mean like Such a nod to like I. I'd say are my childhood but it's on my childhood it's my youthful adult. It's like right all decisions. I made that. Turn into the man I am today. Were made is then exact. And and even I knew it was coming up and I got teary eyed and was giggling. That's all I it's it's just like it's it's the stay puff marshmallow man. It's like it's what what's your dream really exactly and it's like trying to explain to my daughter's now my oldest one gets it. My younger is starting to get it now but like trying to really explain what daddy does and like because my oldest used to get really annoyed. If we'd be out on a daddy daughter date and a couple of women would come up. And say hey. Can I get your picture? And she'd be like no is my dad. You can't talk to him. Now's wants to be in all the pictures but like you know trying to explain what daddy does. And now the fact that my oldest is literally me? She loves to Sing Dance. She's writing music right now. Like I'm grown away. And and this is all what she wants to do. I would never say this is what you're GONNA do That's Kinda Dad. I am like I want my kids to be wherever they want to be. And I'll support you gay. Straight doctor lawyer doesn't matter but Y- It's just really interesting to me. Like how like I'm forty two but I still. I'm such a Dork. Such a big kid like I woke up the other morning going. Okay you're forty two. Maybe start acting a little bit like your forty two. But I'm always going to be useful. Don't act like a child but feel like a child Ed. It's just awesome like watching movies that bring me back to a moment like you said like this. Like Washington state marshmallow man. Like I tried to show my oldest ghostbusters. She walked out like in time in time he excellent said is that movie. You know like I always quote. We came we saw we kicked ass is what I'm talking about. You know. Yeah so what? What was it like when being in a band? I always had a moment. One time I was in Boston and and I was doing. The Wilbur is the first time I did the Wilbur. One show folded out of a so proud of myself but I stood backstage where the heaters are and I thought is just me like it's always been just me like ultimately. I have no one to high five. I have no one to like hug it out with and go. We got here. It's always always just go. It's a weird feeling so I'm not. I'm a person WHO LIKES TO BE AROUND GROUPS. I'd be in a group by good but I'd always go so you did it brats like what's it like being in a band like with the main engine mates you. You said it. It's fucking team. Were family were brothers. Everyone's first marriage You know I mean. Most of us were single when this whole thing started a couple of guys at girlfriends one of them's girlfriends now is quite but you know we've fight like brothers. We laughed like brothers. We've gotten drunk like brothers redone. Everything like family and because of that there's this newfound respect now all of us married. All fathers is new level of communication. That happens now. That didn't happen in the beginning because we were all just so excited that we're actually doing this. And then when I kind of lull came it was like you know what we have about three months off. I love you but please call me. You know I just want a break from you You know we've gone from all being on the same tour bus to now having our own buses but that's because we have families people think. Oh God they`re. They're on their own buses. They've there there must be turmoil in like no reach this all five of us in our nine kids. That's not going to happen. We would want to then we want to go but it is nice to know like after a show you feel one of these on your shoulder going to kill tonight or man. He's Johnny Greats night last night. You sound like Shit but tonight you started great you know but like it is nice but at at at the end of the day though when we get back from the show we shower and or in our rooms. You've you've still got to have that moment for yourself. At least I do because I'm I'm a super insecure person but to be able to have that moment by myself and look at myself in the mirror and go new Dick Job. Today actually did a really or a really good show. You kinda messed up here but you made up over here and I never used to be able to do that where I can look. You know pat myself on the back You know I felt my wife on the back daily. Because she's a fucking superwoman. You know now with the schooling thing and everything how things are going right now like I. I won't even attempt it. And she's chilling it you know and yeah you know that old saying behind every good man is.
"j mclean" Discussed on Bertcast's Podcast
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"Because I thought elected multitask can do ten things at once and I would never finish any of them all the way through and Midway through I get burnt out and I'd be like Fuck Anita drink or man I just WanNa go and just go on. The golf course did not take any phone calls today. And I'm supposed to take ten and you know now it's like I don't Wanna I don't WanNa miss anything with my kids. I don't want to die tomorrow because of some stupid shit that I don't need to do and I just want to be healthy and happy and focused and now whatever new project I wanNA take on. I see it all the way to the end period. Start something new. I don't just have ashes anymore and it's just it's such a great feeling you know. Yeah what was that like? Whoa this is a weird question. But what did you learn from that Guy Lou on? Well I learned quite a few things of not to do. That's what I feel. Sometimes the most you learn when you're a kid as you learn all the things not to do from the people older than you know one of the things that like like whenever I talk to like Justin Timberlake talk to lance or any of those guys You know we'll start reminiscing about it. And it's like they were lucky in In retrospect because they came after us and they saw what we did wrong or what was done wrong to us and didn't WanNa make the same mistakes like we were too young when when we signed with Lou to even look at the contracts and realize he's is one sixth member which means whatever I making you guys makes. He makes on top of that. He was getting a management commission and on top of that he was getting smother shit under the table from Mike. Different TOUR PROMOTERS. So he's he's tripled hippie but we didn't know this you know we're all young and we're like we're McGowan fucking record deal. Oh my God we're going to sell out the word lucky. Why why would complaining exactly? And it took one of our bandmates Barbara in Stockholm Sweden Brian To literally go guys. I've been doing. The numbers mischievous not right. I WANNA sue but I need you guys to back me up and we're like shit man. If we do this this could be it. Like we're right about to take off in. This could be the end of our career. But we're brothers. So we're like fuck it we're going to do this and we're either gonNA fall together or we're gonNA rise together and we filed it and Lou literally put everything on lockdown. He was holding our name. He was holding all of our gear. And we're like look and we were holding. What was his one-sixth in an escrow account and we're like fine okay. You know what we're just going to pay you to get leads like here's your money. Give us the name. We don't want to have anything to do with anymore. And I won't say what that number was but it was a lot and we got out of it and we got keep our name and we got our gear and we never had to look back and the only frustrating thing is you know. Now that he's passed away he was in prison. When we shot ourselves. Risen heat yeah. He was in federal prison for the biggest PONZI SCHEME. In history in history really. Yeah He was doing all kinds of shady shit And a couple of people that actually worked for him one of them actually killed himself which is horrible because one of the blanket companies that he had was this liked insurance policy. That was take care of all of his workers and everyone else and it was all bogus so one of his drivers. His mom was ill so she was covered under this insurance. When got indicted all that went bye. Bye and this Guy Franks could not. Eight is his mom's medical bills so you. Buchan sat in his car and author himself and so Lou live with that and we shot a documentary about three years ago or four years ago Three and the one precipice that we really wish that we could got to. Was that one interview with him in prison. We almost got it. And then the warden shutdown all we wanted to do was ask one question which was just y. You could still be with us. We could be sharing in the in the fruits of our labor. And you glue it greedy so stabbed. None of us ever got to ask that question before he passed away But you know I already made my piece. Some of my band made still to this day. I made my piece after we parted ways. I was like look you know what on one side of the coin? We owe everything to you because without you putting us together. We wouldn't have rehab but on the other side you fucked it up. 'cause you agree eighty you could still be in our life could still be. We used to call him big pop and it's like now you're now you're six feet under. Bro. You know so. It's so crazy it's that guy was such A. I mean everyone. Everyone I think from the outside just looked at him and thought he must have been a pedophile. Who's their resume. Any allegations is so many things I mean. Nothing like that ever with with us five but we were always his house hanging out. He had like one of the actual seeds repeal costumes yet darth vader. He had a whole table. This was back when laser discs. Were saying I'm you know saw. I saw my first born in his house on a fucking laser disc and it was just like the most amazing thing in the world. You Know He. His house was like Disneyland. You know and we were always a family and like my oldest member Kevin. Kevin lost his father to cancer a couple years before we net Lou and Kevin joined us and whatever so it hurt him the most I think is he looked at Lulu father and you know he already lost his real father and now he's finally starting to look at somebody in that same light and then you just put this blanket over everyone's eyes and it's just fucking horrible but the groups that he managed after US learn every little thing that we got fucked over and not do in sync learned and you know town learned in all these ozone. Yeah I mean all those guys we were kind of a guinea pigs. I guess you know but whenever anyone assis now like an interview if you if you could give advice to some new group coming out with the first thing that you'd say we'd say get a good lawyer you know I mean just be prepared because you know we did a festival forever ago. GotTa be twenty-five years ago and the remaining members of the temptations were there and they gave us the best advice that we've ever been given which they said look guys. We hope that you go far but always remember that this is show business and while you're on stage doing your show your business could be walking out the back door so keep your eyes on everything and we've always been like that ever since you know we now have to business. Did you ever think of the list of bands like yours? The temptations voice to man New Kids on the block. I mean there's the list of like a band or so it's and then it's it's weird because society takes a break from it and then it shows back up with like K. pop and like. And what was the choose the one the one? That's real big in England. Action one direction. Yeah one direction fucking great awesome awesome much guys talented. You know it was. It became a different take on on the boy band name. You know because these guys didn't dance or they played instruments Five seconds of summer is the same thing. They played instruments You know we never heard of the word boy band ever. And we went to Europe for the first time and that's what Europe cold groups. Gus was boy band. We hated it. Where like none a boy Dan promote we could see is a group of five good looking guys. Two of them insane. Three a number tone-deaf they can dance and they look pretty. That's it we're like. Look we may not be the most attractive guys in the world but we can really sing and we can really dance. And we have sidebar harmony. We Wanna be called of Oklahoma Group and the boy band names stuck with US coming back to the states and we've now obviously embraced it. You know if it sounds bird weird if I had if I had a nickel for every time I sat with fucking Dane Cook or Bill Burr or any of my friends like we should do. We should do like what if an aging boy bet like. You know it's so funny because that was that was that was like when all of our when all of us were growing artistically you guys were ruling the roost you guys were though I mean the shit thank you. I mean we you know read. We've always tried to just persevere through whatever has been thrown at us. Lord knows from three rehabs deaths in the Family Knicks family alone You know how he lost his sister. Brian had open heart surgery at twenty three and was on Moore three months later or because the label and everybody else looked at us like a bunch of machines. And it's like you know now finally taken us a long time but now we're in control now. We make our schedule or all married. Were all fathers you know. I did have the only girls now. Knicks finally has a girl is up a three year. Old Little boy now has a beautiful. Little girl sears. Show and I'm like dude. You just wait. Girls are the best but food also like you know walking. You have boys girls. I got two girls. And how Thirteen Fifteen. Yes the not. I'm dreading that but funny enough that you said that you know if it's home so joey gave me the best advice in the world. So He's is all this daughter is got to be eighteen now but When she was fifteen she was going to go on a first date and Joey told her something to tell the boy when the voice showed up picker her up to go on a date so the boy shows up and she opens the door and they're talking and she's like listen before we go at his. WanNa tell you something and the boys like okay. What and she goes. Remember this whatever you do to me..
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"Thank you so much I really. I'm concerned about my sleep. I I have been sleeping very well and I've been tracking all my whoop sleeping very well lately. Last night was the first time I didn't see pro but I wonder if it's just because I went to bed at night horribly. You went to bed early for you did. I've been going to bed before you do. I haven't been drinking lately for those of you wondering it's been twenty two days but I drank one day with Rogan. I don't count that day. Yeah is that an exemption day. I talked to David Arquette. The other day on on facetime live or instagram live. He goes yeah man. I'm dumb with booze so really goes. Yeah just done done work for me. I was like Oh congrats I said how long you've been sober. He goes April third king-sized. Yeah Yeah and so that was April fourth when we did the by. I do not joining us. Something interesting about David jets When he his sister Alexis was the youngest. I think did a movie with Luke Perry when when Luke Perry was like eighteen years old sixteen years. Old SLOOP. Peres like you know what I'm thinking about moving to. La and Alexis said. Just do it do it right now. Go home drive out with me. I'll stay in our house. Wow so luke. Perry stayed with David Arquette when he moved out to. La and David Arquette TV show on Fox called the outsiders where it was off the movie. The book the outsiders and It got cancelled and it got replaced with nine. Oh two one oh really. I'm David Arquette on the PODCAST. We did a forty five minute. Instagram live. It was a little on instagram. Live but I couldn't stop talking to him. Today's podcast is absolutely fantastic. I talked with. Aj McLean AJ. Mclane is one of the five backstreet. Boys can you name? 'em Aaron. Howie Brian Kevin and AJ Backstreet boys were huge. When I started when I started doing stand up that that music that time period that I could name the bands that were big at the time. It was limp. Biscuit Corn Britney Spears backstreet boys in sync it. That music defines that time in my life when I started stand up so I have a weird connection with them that having been said we will watch. This is the end the other night and and at the end. Obviously if you don't know what happens. This is the end The backstreet boys show up in heaven with two Seth Rogan and Jeb Bush. Anelle WE CHANEL J Bushnell and Craig Robinson and so. I remember watching that for the first time in the backstreet boys showed up on. How fucking cool and you forget you know we talk about the boy bands. We talk about we talk about all of that. We talk about him. Starting he was the original backstreet. Boy We talk about We talk about everything and we also talk about my favorite boy band ever Aleppo. We talk about. Oh Dude you know Lamelo now. I didn't know that you know my job. There's a lyric in there. That is I was obsessed with. I've been obsessed with my entire life. One lyric posts on. You'll hear that in here. We talk about sobriety about him getting sober. We talked about a bunch of things. It's a really great conversation. Sa- beauty zooms is. I'm getting talked to people why wouldn't normally get the opportunity to talk to and so we're going to make sure that We're GONNA make sure we put out as much content as possible so that you can You can tap out for the day but look it's my job is not sought. Politics is not to do anything. If I can raise money by doing. Stand up for being silly. I'll do it But my goal is not to my God. I should talk about the Adam Sandler interview. I'll talk to bears one cave. I fucking screw the pooch with Adam Sandler. It's all my instagram. You can see it on my instagram New To bears will on cave is out right now. Being Tom I spit hot fire. Tom Listens Nubile burt is going to be. Whoa fucking day. We doing that this week. Anyway I'm doubling down on entertainment and we're trying to stay away from talking about the Corn Tina Krona virus. I talked to Adam Richmond this week. I think we're going to drop that one Thursday allston trump this one tonight drop that one with Adam Richman for travel channel host with me When we were both used for members sued will drop that one. We have a really cool moment. Not One were in the middle of the PODCAST The healthcare workers. Get off new. Here everyone in New York cheering really cool. Wow Yeah and then. And then something's burning uncut on Friday. And then what we'll do is we'll start releasing podcast. Monday Wednesday Friday. How's that sound everybody? Good Monday Wednesday Friday and Yeah Zoom's are pretty cool and we'll keep doing zooms we'll keep doubling up on the zooms until Until we get out of this quarantine then for whatever reason When we go back maybe we'll keep including zooms and we'll do the regular podcast where we have people back in the house but yeah yeah and by the way I'll have people in the man cave if it makes sense if it it's one of my friends in someone I know and And we keep social distance away but I think right. Now it's pretty. It's pretty good. We're going in these next two weeks. Important for Krona virus illustrates numbers dipped for. We started getting back in In the man cave. My Kids live here my dogs here. My wife lives here. A wife looks here. I love my wife I do love you and I love the Backstreet Boys. Ladies and gentlemen without further ADO further to do further ado. I'm going to get on the treadmill. Now put your hands together. Today's podcast backstreet boys. Aj McLean did you grow up.
"j mclean" Discussed on Bertcast's Podcast
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