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You Wont Believe What Happened When Director Jason Reitman Showed His New Ghostbusters Movie To His Dad, Who Created The Originals

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01:22 min | 6 months ago

You Wont Believe What Happened When Director Jason Reitman Showed His New Ghostbusters Movie To His Dad, Who Created The Originals

"Carlos mill what she called bain. Hey and we are of the south show man. We got some of the best. Guess where we had to change. Tim kaine jay brennan came. Yep everybody everybody but guess what you gotta catch up on all the episodes that you missed like fable kill the mike lost iraq boss the ryan he couple of times listened to the eighty five south show on iheartradio app on apple podcasts. All wherever you get your talk in hollywood with ryan seacrest a lot of pressure on any director when rebooting classic franchise to get it right but imagine how much more of a burden you'd feel if the director behind the original material was your own dad. Jason reitman took that challenge head on when he held the upcoming ghostbusters. Afterlife sequel following footsteps of his dad. Ivan reitman who directed the original two installments so jason was understandably nervous to show his that. His addition to the franchise he tells empire. My father hasn't been leaving the house much because kobe what he took a test put on a mask and drove down to the lot to watch the movie with the studio and after he cried and told me. I'm so proud to be. Your father was one of those great moments in life. Ghostbusters afterlife arrives this summer. That's direct from hollywood.

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Ghostbusters II (1989) | Ivan Reitman

Around the World in 80s Movies

37:08 min | 5 months ago

Ghostbusters II (1989) | Ivan Reitman

"I agree no. I welcome to around the world in eighty s movies. I'm vince leo. I'm the author of the film. Review website quips dot net. I've been doing reviews twenty five years as of this year i started in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and you can read all of my written work at my website. That's equipped stir dot net. Dwi t. e. r. dot net. While you're there. I do encourage you to click the lead to my other. Podcast do concurrent with this one. It covers more recent movies that are out feeders or on streaming services. And it's called the film review. Podcast checkout hipster dot net for all the details on that today. I'm going to be getting into the second part of this. Three part look at comedies from the nineteen eighties featuring ghosts nineteen eighty-four ghostbusters was the first entry. Of course. what else would i follow that up with. But nineteen eighty nine's ghostbusters to ghostbusters to as a p. g. rated film. It does have some scary images and some language one hour and forty eight minutes is the run time. This pretty much brings back. The main cast from the first film bill. Murray sigourney weaver. Dan ackroyd herald ramos. Ernie hudson rick moranis and any pots. It also adds peter. Mcnicoll wilhelm von homburg kurt fuller harris yulin and some twin infants in here will and hang which indoor the director ivan reitman yet again and the screenplay once again credited to herald ramos and dan ackroyd obviously last episode. I did talk about what a success. Ghostbusters was at that. Time considered the highest grossing comedy of all time. Although that's arguable. Considering beverly hills cop made more in the same year but it was so successful that just in its opening week. There were already talks at columbia about creating a primetime ghostbusters. Tv show that had an all new cast but when the prophets continue to come in skyrocketed over the summer they knew that columbia was gonna want not a tv show but another film sequel as early as november of nineteen eighty-four. The stars dan ackroyd and bill. Murray along with director ivan reitman. They started having meetings trying to lay out plans for what they wanted to do for ghostbusters to and they discussed a lot of ideas. Many of them pretty wild including extra terrestrial ghosts. There was also other potential. Mary aykroyd starring vehicles. That they talked about like a remake of abbott. And costello meet frankenstein for instance by march of nineteen eighty-five acura announced. He'd be writing ghostbusters to while he was on location filming. Spies like us in europe. However aykroyd was exhausted by the sheer size and the scope of ghostbuster sequel and so he decided to remain in europe to complete some smaller scale comedies. He had in mind like his spoof of dragnet as well as this comedy about the royal canadian mounties that he hoped that bill murray concert along with him in called law of the yukon and he remained in europe until he was scheduled to come back to the united states to film armed and dangerous although he never quite got to make that movie. Now bill murray at this time he had just done back to back films without stopping including his passion project. The razor's edge in that field really miserably not only commercially but critically so he decided he needed to take some time off and he moved to france for a while where he avoided having to commit to any movies at all especially ghostbusters two. He proclaimed that sequels were based on greed and they diminished the appeal of the first film. He was gonna be brought back kicking and screaming if he was going to get brought back at all nevertheless he didn't want to completely shut the door in mid nineteen eighty-six aykroyd murray. They got together or more ghostbusters. Two ideas and one included avoiding sequel itis by having the actors. Come back not as ghostbusters. But it's completely different characters. Instead of the ghostbusters essentially a sequel with the same cast but doing a completely different story idea kind of a novel way to go. They took some baby steps though. They agreed to star in this remake of his girl. Friday the classic film for the nineteen forties made by martin ransom off and they were going to co star with debra winger with a script that was written specifically with them in mind now on his own accurate eventually did complete a first draft script for ghostbusters. Because the first film's climax took place atop a new york high-rise building accurate do concept was to try to set the film somewhere else other than new york in somewhere other than a high rise so he decided to set. Most of what happens in ghostbusters. To at least in his first draft in scotland dana barrett was gonna get kidnapped she would be taken underground through this ferry ring serving as this portal to a vast underground civilization of druids. The ghostbusters would come to the rescue battle. Some of these foes including a banshee as with accolades first ghostbusters script. Historian ideas proved too ambitious and inaccessible for mainstream audiences. One concept involve the ghostbusters. Traveling through a tunnel for three days through this pneumatic tube. That was like two thousand miles long and a lot of other zany ideas. That were probably too expensive to fill after reading. Accurate script. reitman called a series of meetings. He wanted to get accurate script into shape much like he did for the first film so ramos and aykroyd agreed to account for the passage of time between the two movies because they were a little bit delayed in kidding. This started before. A variety of reasons ramos felt that in the intervening years. Ghostbusters would be like a worldwide chain. So they could still set the action in scotland if they wanted to you but in their revision as they started working on it. They decided to make peter and dana barrett married with the baby. And for comedy's sake that baby would eventually get possessed by a ghost and then start walking and talking on its own kind of like an adult in a baby's body. Eventually though they determined that centering the story. So much on peter was upsetting. The balance of the overall story of the ghostbusters marginalized the other. Three ghostbuster characters so they decided they were going to rewrite it. So that dina in the intervening years had left peter because of his lack of commitment and she would marry somebody else. Presumably the stiff violinist who uses nasal spray in the first ghostbusters but now at the beginning of the film she would be divorced with an infant boy. And that would mean a second chance for peter now around this time david. Puttnam became the chairman and ceo for columbia pictures. Although he was now the head of a major studio he seemed to not like the hollywood studio system at all. He determined that the way things were being run was not conducive to making good movies. He determined that talent agencies in particular were squeezing studios escalating budgets left and right now that he was in charge he refused to entertain expensive star studded packages where the studio would have little creative control and in so doing he started talking a little too much. Perhaps a little too. Broadly in an off the record. British american chamber of commerce luncheon speech putnam asserted that he was no longer interested in catering to these takers. Who do not give anything back to the industry. Unfortunately he mentioned bill murray specifically as a taker although he would deny saying later putting did not know though that murray's lawyer was in attendance at that luncheon and so word leaked to murray's talent agent. Mike ovitz a big power player in hollywood at the time he also represented reitman and ramos and then it appeared in page six in the new york post. And that's when murray vowed he was never gonna make any movies for the studio as long as putnam was in charge and the other actors back them up. Murray inaccurate pulled out of his girl friday. That was going to be a columbia release which putnam decided to put that project into turnaround. Although it did later get repackaged for a release in nineteen eighty eight as switching channels nevertheless coca cola which owned columbia. They put pressure directly on putnam to make ghostbusters to happen. No matter what so. He considered proceeding with ghostbusters to because he had already burnt the bridge felt with murray and company he was gonna make a whole new ghostbusters crew. A mostly black cast lead by bill cosby. Bill cosby happened to be coca-cola's spokesman at the time and he was newly signed to a film contract undercut them but bill cosby had ideas of his own. He was more interested in developing his own story. Idea for something. That would become leonard part. Six under pressure in april nineteen eighty-seven putnam told the press that ghostbusters to would indeed be in production by november of that year. And this came as a surprise to reitman. And all of the other cast who reiterated that. We're not going to work for putnam. September of nineteen eighty-seven with very few successes to tout in his tenure. There putnam was pushed out of his position and his three year contract a couple of years early and that made way for a new production head. Don steel and dawn steele got the job because she was going to make ghostbusters to her top priority. With putting out of the way murray soon met with aykroyd and ramos and reitman and ovitz and he came there to hear their pitch for the story that they had thus far that luncheon went for four hours because it started as a big gripe session for all of the resentments that had felt since the last time they had met mostly aimed at putnam but after they clear the air which took some time murray listened and he liked their new ideas much better than the ones that he felt he had heard from aykroyd alone very at that time had just made scrooge and while he was not really keen on java jumping right back into acting he did feel good while he was making scrooge that it was something that had a moral. He was picked by putnam's accusations that he only cared about himself so murray wanted ghostbusters to to mean something. More than just a return for fat paychecks. He wanted the ghostbusters to reflect their own reality that they were gonna join forces here to do something to help the greater good and to help people be better ramos and accurate than built their next revision with this in mind with the ghostbusters. Being broken up and then having get back together to save the world one more time with the moral that humans should treat each other with kindness or else bad things. We're going to happen. Ramos came up with the notion that negative energy is something that could build up over time. So new york. The home of rudeness negatively it must be sitting on reservoirs of residual negatively underground and that made it a place where evil spirits would dominate and that would lead to a climax with the statue of liberty being possessed by one evil spirit and to defeat this evil spirit. New yorkers would have to be nicer in unison at least for a while ramos joke that the statue of liberty at the end would end up laying on wall street as some sort of satirical commentary of the times now making each other laugh through this four hour. Lunch meeting murray. He's started to miss the good times with these guys. Ghostbusters says i mentioned the most funny to ever had making a film he could really use the laughs in his life so we started softening his stance on returning but if he was going to return the studio would have to make it worth not only his while. But everybody's he wanted ten million dollars to return and that his co stars get the same amount but the struggling columbia pictures. They didn't wanna spend fifty million dollars just to get the talent back on board on top of the costly effects work. So negotiations began between the studio and the main talent and their agents and an agreement was eventually reached. The actors were working for scale in exchange for large percentages of the gross fifteen percent would go to murray ten percent to reitman eight percent to aykroyd in percent to ramos if they can get the film in theaters on the fourth of july weekend in nineteen eighty nine. That meant the shooting schedule was going to be rushed yet again. In fact it would be two weeks shorter than the first ghostbusters. But that two weeks eventually became a whole month shorter than the original ghostbusters. Because the release date moved up to june twenty third. And that's when they realized that tim burton's batman was being released that week and so they moved it up yet again to try to get the jump on batman which was heavily hyped at the time to june sixteenth nineteen eighty nine. Raymond had to juggle post production on twins while he was handling pre-production ghostbusters to so this was a really hectic and concentrated. Shoot there was also one. Snag involve sigourney. Weaver insisted on making as much as her co stars and she was not given some of the same benefits here with their deal and she also wanted her money upfront because part of her deal for the first ghostbusters was a percentage deal and she never got paid columbia said that they never really actually turned prophet which she said that she was going to sue them and force them to do an audit. If they're gonna go with that. Excuse columbia decided you know. Maybe they should look into recasting dana. Maybe a less expensive actress could play that role but they decided they were going to retool. The character altogether different single mother love interest for peter was written named lane walker for continuity sake. They did hope that they could get sigourney. Weaver to do a cameo part with dana barrett. But weaver declined. She either wanted something to do or she didn't want to do anything at all. Meanwhile several actresses they came in they read lines with murray for the lean walker role but murray grew very disenchanted with all of this and he urged columbia. Pay weaver what she wanted because she had the right chemistry to work with him. Now with all of these new directions. They started having story issues so several screenwriters were brought in big names like lane. May in lowell ganz. Bob blue mandel came in. They provided advice to try to fix issues especially relating to the family oriented aspects of their script. Also they were having trouble with the main conflicts of their films in the early drafts. Negative feelings manifested into the rise of insects. All over the place right suggested that a better way to go would be to have slime comeback specifically mood slime that became a concept murray acquiesced on the slide concept on condition that he not be slide again. He didn't wanna go through that ever again. However slime was still a little too abstract to be the main villain so they concocted a powerful to be kicking up someone named vigo who could channel this negative energy and become more powerful vigo would use the statue of liberty as one of his minions and then come after the ghostbusters or attacked new york. However they determined that because lady liberty was kind of symbol really of new york's ideals and indeed the country as a whole. They felt that the statue of liberty should really stay positive force so they came up with this idea of having good slime to be able to counteract the negative slime and the ghostbusters would take control of the statue of liberty to do their bidding for the climax. Meanwhile sigourney weaver. She had just been an oscar nominee for aliens. She grew very hot after her turns in working girl and gorillas in the mist in one thousand nine hundred eight indeed she would become a double oscar nominee in one thousand. Nine hundred nine with murray. He happened to be on a four year hiatus from films except for scrooge most recently which did well but not phenomenally. Well aykroyd had middling efforts since the last ghostbusters and ramos had two failed comedies. In armed and dangerous and club paradise sigourney. Weaver was the only actor among them. That had surefire box office. Bankability for ghostbusters. So negotiations heated up on how to find a way to get dina barrett back into the fill. The offered weaver again. A profit percentage but given their past experience she instead opted for a flat fee. One million dollars to return for ghostbusters to now in the completed plot. We began five years after the events of ghostbusters. The heroes are zeros again bankrupt because they got sued by the city for the destructive aftermath of clearing. Out the city of spooks. They claim that they made all of that up. A federal restraining order was issued prohibiting them from continuing their ghost busting business. Peter vakman now is the host of this cheesy local cable. Talk show called a world of the psychic ray stance. He's now an occult bookstore owner and he does some side work with winston's edmore cost playing basically themselves as ghostbusters for children's birthday parties. Egon spangler he gets his job back at columbia university and he happens to be investigating. How human emotions. Psycho magnetic energy and dana barrett. She's now a single mother after leaving bank for his inability to commit. She had a baby oscar now. Eight months old with another man that we never see. Louis talisa also back. He applies his knack for accounting to become a tax lawyer and they reunite after being approached by dana who reports a strange occurrence involving her baby's carriage traveling on. Its own down the street very upsetting to her. So they discover while they're doing their friend favor rivers of mood. Slime that are running beneath the city converging on the manhattan museum of art. Which happens to be where dana works as an art restorer and one of the art pieces there includes a life size portrait of this medieval sorcerer or lord the vigo the carpathian vigo's spirit happens to live within this portrait and to enter into the realm of the living again vigo wants a baby to be his vessel to come back into the mortal realm anti continue his reign of terror. So he makes a deal with his boss. Dr janos to secure dina's baby oscar in exchange for having a date with her something of sirte like that now in the original script. Peter mcnicoll the pohang role. He was kind of a generic ghostbusters. Foil just another d. bag of a story named jason lock. Now mcnicoll playing this forgettable generic creepy boss roll. It struck him that he could make that character a little bit extra something more. If that character had a kind of a connection with that ancient ruler of the fictional carpathia he could be also from central europe and therefore apt to be under his spell. He developed this wildly exaggerated impression. He used of an acquaintance that he knew who worked at this romanian travel agency and he started hanging around his friend and he visited the agency agencies. Try to nail down those romanian inflections. Mcnicoll decided to rewrite all of his dialogue to fit in with this new character that he created yaish maha with some additional background mythology that he also channeled for that character. Mcnicoll decided to make it while he wanted to wear a beatles wig because he wanted to suggest beatlemania was finally hitting his remote region of the world but reitman nixed that particular idea because the film already had too many brunettes so he came up with the blonde and kind of crazy locks that he has now to bring back the d. bag role though they were gonna bring william atherton back at point but he ended up. Not being able to return has walter peck from the first film into the new one so they retooled the walter pig character to the mayor's assistant named jack hardy meyer so they needed a new brick to be affoil to the ghostbusters. And that happened to come in the form of kurt fuller. Now kerr furlough was there. He auditioned for a much smaller role. Ramos had seen fuller in a play that was recommended by his wife. And they brought him in to audition for this other role. But since william atherton wasn't coming back they thought fuller who was very impressive as a character actor could fill that role as jack hard admire and so he got that part as for vigo the carpathian. They wanted somebody very intimidating. They brought him this ex boxer wrestler actor wilhem von homburg. Whose real name is norbert group. But his accent and kind of list made them sometimes unintelligible and they didn't really want to work with him any more than they had to you. Because according to producer. Michael gross wilhelm was a crude bigoted. A whole so they decided to bring in max von sydow to dub the voice for vigo reportedly von hamburg. He was completely unaware that they were going to do this. And during the preview screening at which he was in attendance he stormed out as soon as he realized that his voice was completely dubbed. As far as the smaller roles they did bring back or any hudson yards as well as rick. Moranis and annie potts. They're going gonna bring on board rick moranis. Setv co-star eugene levy to play his dermatologist cousin. Sherman tully he was going to be in a very small part giving the ghostbusters psych ward. That would ended up. Getting cut from the final product for the purposes of this film. Romance was struck between janine and louis as opposed to janine an egon because they felt that janine lewis just made the most sense for those two to be together any pots decided to wear a wig because she had to cover the hairdo that she used on designing women. The special effects house in this film changed from the boston company to the big one industrial light magic. Dennis muren was heading. This particular production team hired wants. The first revision was completed for the script. Your and says ghostbusters. To was by far the shortest production scheduled that he'd ever worked on and probably one of the most grueling. Nearly a hundred and eighty six their group had to make including ones. That really could not be done until the actors were done shooting their scenes. In addition the script kept changing through the production including bringing on new ghosts which made it even more difficult right than he was not really a director that was interested in the technical side of things. He only really made suggestions. And he gave his production crew for the effects carte blanche to do whatever they wished so long as he deemed that it could work for the film. You're wanted to greet ghosts in this film. Unlike the ones that were done in the first one the scullery brothers are one of the first goes to make their appearance here. They were loosely based on criminals. Who had robbed ramos's father in real life his father's store when he was a kid. They made these ghosts a little bit more cartoonish for the purpose of this film. They used archie. Goodwin's uncle creepy and cousin eerie comic book characters esther inspiration then as they started creating these caricatures they start combining them with of the accurate and belushi comic team. The blues brother's other big technical talent was replaced for ghostbusters. To as well laszlo kovacs. Who as i mentioned in the last episode. He shot ghostbusters as a as a drama. He did not shoot it as he would a comedy so he had a lot more. I for scope. Michael chapman was brought. In as the new cinematographer he had just shot. Scrooge with murray and he emphasized a lot less of the longshots a lot. More tight close ups. They wanted to get more relationship building in this film to make it more personal. Replacing the gothic look from the original ghostbusters of john. To cure for production. Design was beetlejuice boat welsh. He made it much more cartoonish in nature randy who worked with reitman on twins just before starting ghostbusters two. He replaced elmer. Bernstein's mix of horror in comedy with a definitively more comic emphasis here the soundtrack itself in addition to that was much more bigger brought him more talented this time instead of aristotle records they decided to go with mca because they wanted to bring in bobby brown who was a hot hotstar at the time he in fact he does two songs for the soundtrack here on our own as well as we are back. He also makes a cameo appearance as a doorman in this film. Brown's former group. New edition are also on the soundtrack. Elton john glenn. Fry james taylor. Owing boeing go dougie fresh and new rap reiteration of the ray parker junior song this time done by run. Dmc the accelerated shooting schedule. Though for this film meant they. Obviously we're going to quickly fall behind because of all the technical things to happen. So they started taking a lot of shortcuts to try to catch up and that reduced eventually the opportunities for comic. Improvisation a lot of the luxury they had for the first film started to fall by the wayside when they were all said and done their first cut of this film preview screening audiences found that the film lacked palpable conflict. They found the plot very confusing and the ending resolved too quickly for their tastes. Reitman said it died a horrible death in that first preview screening so he decided he was going to immediately start last minute. Reshoots within a couple of months of the release date to add more obstacles for the ghostbusters to overcome more narrative. Explanation to try to tie in all of the ghosts. They'll slime and vigo into a more cohesive hall he also decided to basically reshoot most of the last twenty five minutes of the film. Murray has gone out to say that he thinks that that many of the funny scenes that he was very enamored with in the original script were removed during this process to make way for new ones emphasizing effects and more cartoonish villainy one moment where vacant gets the crowd scene koumba at the end that was jettisoned. It had just been done in troop beverly hills in march of nineteen eighty nine. That was orchestrated by the way by the composer. Randy element himself. So they didn't want to get too redundant here slammer was supposed to have a much bigger role. This time out. He would be shown is becoming friends with louis. Ellie after lewis decides he's going to be kind of like the fifth ghostbuster and he was gonna try to apprehend slammer in the firehouse. He uses food as bait and But the scenes were deemed by test audiences as kind of distracting. And they didn't really react with any of the laughter or the delight that they felt that they should bringing back slammer so instead he makes a cameo appearance in the end credits slammer was made up more here to appear like he did in the real ghostbusters. Cartoon that was very popular among the kids and kind of kept the franchise name alive in between nineteen eighty-four is film and this one. Meanwhile louis telly use his accounting and lawyering skills to run the ghostbusters business altogether but a lot of that got cut out as well as far as promoting the film just like the first ghostbusters that happened to be plagued by questions that was brought out by bob. Woodward's book that was coming out. That year called wired the short life and fast times of john belushi just so happens that ghostbusters to was coming out with the movie. Adaptation of wired that was going to be released in august of one thousand nine hundred nine so the press was asking more questions about the death of john belushi which aykroyd he basically refused to sit for press interviews this time out. Because of that and murray determined to dance around any kind of questions that would relate to belushi and his life now in ghostbusters to finally did come out critics. They gave a middling write ups. They called it basically to innocuous to hate not nearly as innovative as the first effort so disappointment that was the general consensus nevertheless it opened a record setting twenty nine point five million dollars in its opening weekend. That happened to be the happen to be the biggest opening at least for one week. Because batman came the next week enthusiasm evaporated quickly. Four ghostbusters to one man was coming out stealing all of its thunder and ghostbusters to ended up making only half of its predecessor in the united states. Although his budget was only thirty seven million you got to take into account. The percentages of the gross were given to get the actors on board so it really did prove very costly and so they considered a kind of a flop and in addition batman. Coming out. honey. I shrunk the kids really cut into that kids market that they were trying to also cooperate with this effort by making it a little bit more family friendly now as far as my personal points of view when i first saw ghostbusters to in the theaters in nineteen eighty nine. I was very disappointed now. Obviously i was not in that kids demographic at the time as so many other people who grew up loving ghostbusters to were i was already in college at the time ghostbusters to came out. So when i saw this kind of neutered version this kind of kid friendly version. I really did not like it. I thought it was unfathomable that all of these contributors would come back the core. Contributors you have all of the cast the same writers the same director and yet they could not replicate the appeal in almost any fashion of the first film. All of the things that i found so funny so endearing and so sometimes frightening. Were just not there. This time out the creative minds just seem to be begrudgingly consenting to do this sequel and putting out what i consider to be at that time a half hearted effort i think one of the big story quibbles that i had that it could not get over. Was that the city. At the beginning of this film. Viewed the ghostbusters. Some sort of huckster make a bunch of phony ghost attacks happen. I mean anybody who sees the first film knows that there is really no possible. Way that ticket direct the havoc that occurred all on their own. I mean the state puff marshmallow man faked that it just did not make any sense. The plausibility just wasn't there from a story angle. I'm these very broad characterizations that he brought in for this new kid friendly ghostbusters. The actors seem hampered by that emphasis. The craters seemed to mindful that many kids expected the tone and the style of the animated television cartoon the real ghostbusters so replacing the scary ghosts from the first film are now these more cartoonish comical ones and gags that were a little bit racy for the time like a ghost. Zipping raise pants in the middle of the night or ugly horrific creatures. That sometimes kind of nightmare inducing in their place where these totally ineffectual ghosts. That just seemed like they were three d rendering cartoons and then we have all of these cute baby moments and dancing toasters and these oddball characters with funny accents and the normally womanizing peter. He seems to be completely neutered. This time these kind of a wimp in this film. And i think perhaps worst of all at least the way that i was thinking at the time. The witty banter the camaraderie seems so effortless in ghostbusters. Just seem so forced here. You could always hear like reitman yelling at the cast. We need more woody band. You're here everybody equity and start bantering and somehow make funny happen but given the schedule didn't have enough time to get it altogether and then with all of the re-shoots all of that comic timing seemed to be forced out to try to placate audiences and their expectations. This time out. So as far as how i feel about it today i try every year or two. I watch ghostbusters to usually. After i watched the first one there are elements that i like but he just never quite have cotton to it. There are moments that make me genuinely smile or laugh and really. Do love this cast. It's just hard for me to hate a ghostbusters film outright. In yet considering how much. I absolutely adore the first ghostbusters. The to see a lackluster effort for everybody involved makes ghostbusters to one of the most disappointing follow ups that i can think of from fans standpoint. I think one distinction is. I did not grow up watching the real ghostbusters cartoon and i didn't see this film as a kid. I think if you see it as a kid. You're probably much more forgiving. Because a lot of the humor here really aims much more toward that demographic. Whereas like i said i was in college and i was not in the mood for a kid film. I love everything about the first film. I love all the characters and yet they're here replaced by a lot of things. I didn't find nearly as funny. And a lot of these characters are just not as appealing this time out and it was just very sad to see them in this light so ghostbusters to i would say if i had to compare it. It's like one of the creepy apparitions featured within the film itself kind of faded ghost of its former self. It's curiously uninvolved compared to the first film so much. So that if there were river of mood slime flowing beneath the movie theaters showing this. The emotions of the disinterested audiences wouldn't have affected much of a ripple. I think the result here. The metaphor us is kind of exemplified in the scene. Where ray and winston or trying to entertain these kids at birthday party these kids clearly are not having it. And i can't blame them because i'd rather also see he hand then. A cuddly watered down version of the real ghostbusters that came and saw and kicked ass in the fantastic first film. So as much as i would really love to be able to see this film in the way that a lot of other people have come around to enjoying it released embracing it or in some cases like my daughter actually thinks it's a better film than the first one. Believe it or not you know. She's nine years old. So i guess there are definitely different perspectives depending on your age and what you're expecting going in but for me i can't give this film anything. More than two and a half stars out of four stars scale means that it has the tools and it has the talent to be something more by the way. When i say it has the tools and has the talent that is a good busters quote. I've been using all this time knowingly but it just couldn't quite get it together. I think this time out the focus just wasn't there. I think they were trying to put it all together. And the fact that they were trying to compete with the real ghostbusters cartoon just through the balance off and in comedy. When you're trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice which is almost impossible to do when you have a winning comedy follow up. I mean there are very few comedies that you can name that are anywhere near as good as the first one if they ever have a sequel. Whatever chemistry they had going from ghostbusters just did not translate five years later into ghostbusters. Two and a middling effort results. And that's why. I can only give ghostbusters to two and a half stars so my apologies to fans out there who are shaking their fists at me for not giving it my full endorsement so anyway a lot more continued. After this ghostbusters. I was going to go into. I started writing down all things that came out. Video games comic books. You know the two thousand sixteen kind of shoot that they had with the female goes festers and of course sometime in two thousand twenty one. They're going to release the official third ghostbusters. Film ghostbusters afterlife. I've decided that. I'm going to take all of that information. And i'm going to work into the ghostbusters afterlife. Review so all of the things. I came after ghostbusters. And all of the attempts to try to get a third ghostbusters film off the ground for that on the film review. Podcast mike companion podcast. This sometime later in the year when ghostbusters. After it comes out anyway. Thank you so much for listening. I hope that you enjoyed this review. If i didn't disappoint you by giving it kind of a middling review myself if you have your own thoughts on ghostbusters whether you want to agree with me or whether you wanna tell me all the reasons why ghostbusters to is just as good or if not better than the first ghostbusters you can write to me. You can find my contact information that my website. That's quick dot net. Wip s cer dot net. As far as i'm going to be covering next well ghost comedy. Big one from the nineteen eighties. You can pick up a film that. I did mention at one point during the body of its review. Beetlejuice the tim burton film from nineteen eighty eight. That will be what i cover on the next episode. So check that out if you haven't done so in quite a while it's definitely one of those films that has its big fans whether i'm on boardwalk yesterday you'll have to tune in next week for beetlejuice until then thank you so much for joining me on this trip around the world in eighty movies.

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Ghostbusters (1984)

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Ghostbusters (1984)

"Auto owners welcome to around the world in eighty s movies. My name is vince leo. I am the author of the film. Review website quips dot net. I invite you to check out over four thousand of my written reviews and read anytime webster. Dot net is where to go. Wip e. r. dot net. And while you're there you can click link to my other podcast. That looks at more recent movies out in theaters and on it's called the film review. Podcast check out the link at quip. Stor dot net today. I'm going to be getting into one of the most requested films since i've been doing this. Podcast starts a three part series looking at movies from the nineteen eighties comedies. That feature ghosts. So i guess you can imagine what i'm going to be covering today from nineteen eighty-four ghostbusters ghostbusters eight. Pg rated film probably pg thirteen today does have scary images some language and smoking. The run time is an hour and forty five minutes. The main cast include. Bill murray sigourney weaver. Dan ackroyd herald ramos. Rick moranis ernie hudson any pots. And william atherton the director is ivan reitman and the screenplay written by of the stars. Dan ackroyd and herald ramos. Now the inspiration for ghostbusters really started in the mind of dan ackroyd accurate with somebody who grew up in this family that believed and and the experience with paranormal occurrences. While they were living in their kingston farmhouse owned for five generations. Dan's grandmother claimed to have her bed. Covers mysteriously pulled off of her from time to time one time. She was tossed out of bed and bitten several times in her arms and legs by some unseen force. Dan's grandfather he was a telephone engineer for bill. Who experimented with communicating with the dead. He wanted to do that through. High vibration crystals that he placed inside radios dan's mother. She said she saw apparitions while she was nursing him as a baby she also would hear from time to time voices of aboriginal spirits while she walked around outside at eight years old aykroyd. He started perusing his great grandfather's vast parapsychology gary in the home by fifteen years old ackward. He was an avid reader of his father's quarterly journal. Of the american society for psychical research as an adult accurate became a society member. He had his first firsthand experience in the early nineteen seventies. He and a friend they heard this recurring loud knocking sound while they were staying in the family cottage. They got up the investigated and they saw this tube shaped flitting of blue and green lights at the top of the stairs. This caused him immediately to escape in stay elsewhere in the early nineteen eighties. Dan's father he found a bunch of journal articles that were written by dan's grandfather in the early twentieth century that described their families. Alternate lives as it were already and spiritualists. They let seances. People fell into trances at once described. A trumpet had voices coming out of it. As it mysteriously floated on its own around the room. It fell crashing down to the floor when somebody was not part of the the say on circle walked into the room. Accurate would later. Convert that same seance room into his private office. He claimed where his family. They've always done their business in that room. So why not while there. He was reading an article on quantum physics and parapsychology really keyed in on this theory. That would shape some of his beliefs later about the possibility of freezing an apparition using modern technology. Now accurate is somebody who thinks parapsychology has always been unfairly. Unfairly disregarded many people have unexplainable experiences and yet dismissed them as somehow just their imagination. Most people just keep all of that inside only about ten percent. He says reports that they've seen anything like that to somebody else and he mused that more people might actually reach out if there were ads on television or listings in the yellow pages that cokes people to anonymously contact paranormal investigators that were ready to believe them around. This time aykroyd. Who happen to be a fan. Not only of ghosts and parapsychology but he also is a fan of old comedy any amused while he was watching a lot of old comedies. That and comedy have always really gone together. Laurel and hardy did the live ghost bob. Hope did a film called ghost. Breakers abbott and costello did hold that ghost olsen and johnson ghost catchers the bowery boys did spook busters and ghost chasers. The three stooges did the ghost talks and martin and lewis did scared stiff. He mused that he may be. The time was ripe for it. Goes comedy for the nineteen eighty s. Something that would incorporate not only some of the funds slapstick comedy of yesteryear but also more modern thought parapsychology. Quantum theory scientific gadgetry. The work of celebrity ghost hunters like hans. Holzer accurate took all of these ideas and he started writing a ghost hunting. Comedy screenplay in late nineteen eighty-one it was meant to be a vehicle for him and his frequent collaborative comedic partner john belushi the title he put on the screenplay ghost smashers set in the future. Supernatural beasts have emerged on earth after microwave transmissions torn a hole in the fabric of our dimension accurate and belushi were to play these blue collar guys name stance and bank men who work for this inter dimensional franchise that specializes in trapping ghosts. Their inter. dimensional. Employer named shandor has trapped zule. This deadly minion of a powerful demi-god cal goes earlier and stanton bateman are assigned to take on goes irs powerful that have been sent into their dimension to retrieve zoll the final act would depict the ghostbusters entering into goes irs supernatural dimension to battle the demi god as ackward was putting all of this together in march of nineteen eighty two while he was writing line for blue cheese character. Accurate would receive a fateful phone. Call from his agent bernie brielle stain. Brill scene informed. Aykroyd that belushi had just died of a drug overdose. This tron and depressed accurate really found not much joy in continuing to work on this rather grim script that he had meant for his fallen best friend and he pushed it aside at least for now in one thousand nine hundred three accurate started to talk about what he was working on any mentioned his half complete ghost smashers script to his agent brill's dean and he wondered if you know maybe this was still worth completing. He had a lot of really good ideas that he was putting into it. He thought maybe maybe could co star. Somebody else michael keaton. Maybe another saturday night. Live alum likes chevy chase or maybe bill. Murray listing showed a copy of the script to blue cheese former agent. Mike ovitz and ovitz took the idea over to universal pictures to executive. Sean daniel daniel thought you know the natural choice to head on. Was the person that accurate had worked with best in movies blues brothers and trading places director. John landis unfortunately at that time landis was mired in legal issues following tragedy that caused the deaths of several actors doing segment of twilight zone. The movie he was seeking to get away from hollywood for a while. Now at that time ovitz represented the other snl alum. That was discussed bill. Murray he thought you know this could sell pretty easily if were a bill. Murray and dan ackroyd vehicle so he set up a meeting between the comedians and murray expressed interest. He thought you know maybe should take it to ivan reitman. Somebody at worked with before they made two successful movies together. Meatballs and stripes in and right man happened to be another ovitz client so ovitz took it the right man but reitman has he read it. He really didn't like it. He thought you know this was all action. The characters were fighting monsters on every page. This would easily cost. Just forty pages. He read one hundred and fifty million dollars to make. It was an action packed. fantasy extravaganza. There was not much in terms of characterizations are suspense or pacing. A romance and it was also too dark to really be funny and it used a lot of parapsychology lingo that only a physicist might fully comprehend. He pushed aside and pretty quickly forgot about it. Accurate though decided to complete the script after all he added a third ghost smasher named ramsey. This was a role he hoped could be filled by. Trading places co star. Eddie murphy eddie murphy. Though was pretty busy at the time he was doing. Snl and he was going to follow that up with a stand up comedy tour eventually becoming tv. Special called delirious but accurate was not dismayed. He continued to complete the script and in order to help sell the concept. He enlisted the help of a character. Illustrator friend named tom and riga's in rica's drew up. Conceptual art demonstrating the look of various creatures that accurate hat in his script as well as a lot of scientific equipment that was used by the ghost smashers accurate videotape himself wearing a prototype. Go smasher uniform and he was holding a makeshift neutron wand the weapons that these measures would use to capture ghosts. Wants a script was complete. He sent the package again to ivan. Reitman roman took a look at the videotape. And he thought this was intriguing. He gives the script another look. He still found the whole thing exhausting but he liked the concept of a company that was called out to extinguish ghosts like some of firemen. He decided he was going to meet with accurate and he offered some suggestions on how he could make that story much more accessible. First reitman felt that this story should be set the modern day not in the future. It should be in an american city that everybody who is watching this film would recognize new york city preferably and instead of jumping right into the action right away. This should be an origin story. It should show how the company started and the invention of the ghost catching equipment and how the men make their first bust. Audiences would be keyed in all the way from the beginning as to what was going on. Raymond was pretty busy at the time. He had several projects that were cooking including one with herald ramos. It was called big trouble. This was meant to be a potential vehicle for a few comedians including bill murray and john candy and it was gonna be set on an alien planet right suggested getting ramos on board to help right ghost masters and to offer him a starring role to help. Sweeten the deal. The visited ramos's office on the burbank studios lot and reitman began to explain the premise and told ramos that you know maybe he should cannibalize a lot of the concepts. He was putting into big trouble and use them in ghost measures including one about characters becoming dogs and then turning back to human again. Listen for about twenty minutes. Ramos said he was in in may of nineteen eighty-three set up a pitch meeting with columbia pictures. Chair frank price. He pitched it as poltergeist. But with bill. Marion gandak rate as the rescue team. Price agreed to fund twenty five billion dollars. If this film could get into theaters by june of nineteen eighty-four. They needed a big summer. Release and it was also two months prior to the summer olympics. Which would cut into the potential audience. This left only thirteen months to overhaul the entire accurate original script to cast the film and to find an affects house that could deliver hundreds of high-tech optical effects now another hurdle was that murray still not officially committed. He said he was trying to branch out at the time as a serious actor in the pet project that he had been co writing this adaptation of w somerset. Mom's drama the razor's edge. It was stalled. They were having a hard time trying to get somebody to make this film and that left his in doubt for some time aykroyd devised a solution that might benefit all parties. He said that they should contact columbia. And say that if they wanted. Murray for ghost masters they'd have to fund the razor's edge. I saw columbia had a producer attached to the razor's edge within an hour of frank. Price hearing murray's ultimatum. Now murray was off on the other side of the world making razor's edge ramos and right men visited the basement of accolades. Martha's vineyard home to hammer out a new script. Accurate was very optimistic about working with ramos. Work with right before toronto. Tv game show called. Greed and ramos also had a surprising knowledge about psychics about the history of the medium medium's ancient myths and quantum physics. I they decided they were gonna title this to ghostbusters ghostbusters. Just had a more comedic ring to it. Not that the comedy would work better if the character would control their own fate instead of just do whatever they do just for a paycheck heroes went from blue collar latkes to scientists and that was meant to explain their ability to create these sophisticated hardware inventions. Right men pushed the idea. Further by having the characters become university. Parapsychology professors professors. Who were forced out of jobs. And the started their own practice and design their high tech tools to prove their theories on the job while exterminating ghosts in a new york that has suddenly become overrun by ghost activity. Now an accurate original script. There really was very little distinction between stance and bank men in ramsey ramos bought. This was all wrong. He felt that even the smallest character in ghostbusters should have a distinct personality and something to contribute to the overall plot or the comedy so ramos rewrote banks. Dialogue specifically for bill murray. He had a knack for that having experienced scripting him before and he added another ghostbuster character that he could play ramos. Took the name. Egon from former classmate. Who was a hungarian refugee and spangler after german philosopher. Oswald spengler he modeled egan's appearance after somebody that he saw on the cover of an architectural magazine. The character of ramsey was rewritten as winston zanu. More an ex military demolitions expert that was hired to be the ghostbusters headquarters security guard. Winston would be there as a non scientist and he could act as an audience surrogate for the ghostbusters to explain their concepts. And all of their hightech hardware to the murray's character peter bank and he became the pitch man of the group the mouth accolades ray stance. He would be the enthusiastic engineer. The heart or the hands and ramos's egon spangler would be the stoic data driven nerd the brain. There were more character touches involving ghosts in their life and the containment system. But raymond decided he didn't want any elements that portrayed ghosts sympathetically. He wanted them eliminated. Because those things took away from the comedy he also nixed accolades intended ending where the men would fight solo in different dimensions because he thought the comedic chemistry work much better when these men were together as for the first bust made by the ghostbusters they decided to centered around one of accolades. Various apparitions called onion head. The onion head goes deep was later renamed by the real ghostbusters cartoon but at that time it was called onion head and he was called that because this goes was meant to have a disgusting stench about him. How many of its scatalogical qualities was cut from the film due to pacing issues now all of goes irs minions that aykroyd concocted the state puffed marshmallow man a giant mascot come to life was one that showed the most comedic possibilities so its appearance was pushed to the climactic ending. It used to be kind of in the middle of ackward story. It was going to be a surrogate for the main. Daddy goes or goes. There was a name that accurate took from a real life account of a haunting in england and they went back and forth to how goes or should look when she looks like the devil. Maybe it should be evil. Shandor who is rewritten to be kind of a cult leader for the purpose of their new story. Chander would be portrayed as kind of comical guy in a suit somewhat like peewee herman they surmised or maybe he should be mr steep left himself. Raymond pushed for goes to have a much more in drowsiness. Look it could be pretty much any. Look that he or she wanted so after grace jones and and carlisle could not commit to playing goes on short notice secured. The services of yugoslavian actor slits giovane now ramos also felt that the story really should have a love interest so they created a character dana barrett. They put the their first revision in that first ramos. Accurate script details would be revealed to be a inter dimensional extraterrestrial now realizing that this angle really. It was meant more for laughs than romance. They still needed aroma so they later changed dana to a human client altogether and she would be living in a building that becomes the source for the dramatic uptick in ghosts in new york. They also developed a comical neighbor. Indiana's building in louis telly. Who would get possessed. And then dana would be put into mortal jeopardy because bank men would end up falling for dina that would give the ghostbusters additional incentive to prevail when she turns into a victim now. Many actresses did audition to play dana barrett. Denise crosby daryl hannah julia roberts among others sigourney weaver's agent got her an audition but raymond thought maybe she was just too serious but that was kind of the point of her auditioning. She hoped that shedding her ice queen image would increase her appeal to do other kinds of movies. She'd performed dini comedy before she didn't quite a bit off broadway and she would in her audition win reitman over altogether she spontaneously pretended to be possessed. Like a dog in her audition. She got on all fours. She started howling. She started gnawing on the furniture cushions in his office. Raymond was pretty much sold. After that and her dignified intelligence had ramos in ripened reconsidering the character of dana barrett altogether s. Somebody who would be much stronger instead of fashion model. They let weaver choose her to be a musician. Investments should treat dana as if dana was out of his league and he needed to prove himself worthy of her attention. Her audition performance also had them changed the script so that dina would be possessed like louis and they would become terror. Dogs millions of dozer in the next script revision. Now the neighbor character lewis. Telly that was written with john. Candy in mind specifically his johnny larue persona from setv when reitman gabe candy script can't really had a hard time as to how to wrap his head around how to play lewis. He thought well maybe should be a german guy and he went to have a lot of big dogs around. Raymond was not interested in any of that he thought it was distracting. And besides they were gonna have terror dogs later. The audience would be confused by having all of these dogs all over the screen. So further complicating the issue was the fact that candy at that time was negotiating with disney to make three hundred fifty thousand dollars a movie and he thought he shouldn't do ghostbusters for that. Which reitman was not pleased about after doing his cameo for the ghostbusters music. Video reitman really never worked with candy again now. Raymond called on other improvisational comedians. To read for the louis tully role now that candy was not really going to be in the running that included others like michael mckean and others reitman had worked with before right in the end with choose candies. Setv buddy rick moranis who eagerly accepted under the condition that he could rewrite the swinging bachelor character meant for candy into a nerdy accountant that he thought he could really add a lot of comedic value to now sigourney. Weaver proved to be just as silly in quick-witted as the other comedians. That she had on board she was really game for anything that they threw at her and and more in a scene where demon arms burst through an armchair to assault dina while she's sitting in it. The technicians were very cautious. They didn't want to touch her own. Roughly and also wanted to avoid certain places. They thought it would be rude to grabber timid. takes weaver. She started barking at them. In get rough molested me and they stopped holding back after that for winstons anymore. The top choices of eddie murphy and gregory hines. They were unavailable doing other movies and that opened it up to auditions. Ernie hudson he he was somebody right. Men had worked with before he was in his. Nineteen eighty-three production space hunter. He was initially disregarded because he was not really a comedian definitely. Didn't have an improv background. And after many mexico they they did in the end. Choose hudson over. Runner-up clermont derek's because they liked his everyman qualities and winston's was much larger. They went through a lot of rehearsals. Winston was almost as much of a ghostbuster. Is everybody else. But the studio heads as they were about to film starting growing worried that the funniest bits in the movie like getting slammed by onion head or conjuring the stay puff marshmallow man. Those were going to winston to be played by an unknown non comedian. Audiences paid to see bill. Murray and dan ackroyd be funny and they should get the biggest laugh lines. So winston's role was gutted to just being random guy seeking a steady paycheck. Who shows up halfway through to become a ghostbuster now. After sandra bernhardt turned down the ghostbusters secretary. Role of janine mullets. It went to you runner up any pots now. Pot said that the scripted chemistry. Between janine and egon which was mostly removed for the final cut. It came easy to her because she had a real life crush on ramos. Something that also was echoed by sigourney. Weaver in a good bipoum at the end of the shoot. Raymond let all of his comedians improvise as much as they wanted to and he would workout. All of the best moments into the final cut right man was used to working with the main guys. He worked with murray. This was the third time after stripes and meatballs but also ramos had worked alongside murray in nineteen seventy five in the off. Broadway show called the national lampoon show which reitman happened to have. Produced ramos appeared also in stripes and he wrote both stripes and meatballs for right reitman as well as writing animal house for reitman before that. These guys can really do no wrong. They were setting trends in film comedy. During this era now as far as the visual effects that was another obstacle most visual effects companies. Were either busy or maybe they were too small to inexperienced to really handle the job. They consulted sin affects magazine publisher donncha to see what was out there. Maybe they could get somebody and shade tip them off that industrial light and magic affects through. Richard edlund was contemplating leaving and starting his own company. At that time edmund was somebody who knew how to present goes. You just really been acclaimed for his work for poltergeist and he seemed like this would be the perfect guy for the job but he didn't have the money so columbia and mgm. They helped finance edlund leaving and starting his own studio called boss film studios and they acquired douglas troubles shop entertainment effects group in marina del rey to get started on ghostbusters for columbia and the film. Twenty ten four n gm. Now raymond wanted them to make scary ghosts. Not funny goes so that the humor would release the tension. I guess onion head was the exception of being kind of funny ghost. Accurate called. Onion had ak slammer. The ghost of john belushi after reitman compared him to bluto from animal house and that comparison caused the effects crew to start lifting facial expressions as well as behavior directly from baluchis performance as bluto. The terror dogs went through several different designs during the conceptual phase. They were lovely silly in the beginning and then they become kind of corpse dogs and then in the end they became gargoyles. Come to life. Raymond also worried that the marshmallow man finale. Maybe that might be a stretch too far. He was really gambling there but they couldn't come up with any better alternate as to what would be the big bad at the end so luckily test audiences once it was all said and done howled with laughter on mr stay puffs arrival now. Raymond instructed his acclaimed cinematographer laszlo kovacs. Even though ghostbusters was abroad comedy. He should not shoot it like when it should be much more dramatic. The actors should be the ones to provide the jokes. Everything else should look like a dramatic picture. He should capture new york city as its own character. Meanwhile the legendary john decuir he designed the million dollar rooftop temple at burbank studios. The largest at that time in hollywood had a floating pyramid cyclorama manhattan skyline as well as a six story building. The painters added People engaged in love making an a few of the windows of the building to amuse themselves. Of course it was too small to be visible by movie going audiences but they amused the crew around. The phenomenal scoring. duties went to reitman's goto composer. Elmer bernstein perfectly set the mood for nearly every scene in this film. It's very light and myrtle when it's time for comedy and it's very eerie when it's going for more horrific vibes it's also marvelous to observe how it sets the audience up for a hearty laugh or a big scare time after time. Although bernstein really disliked having to take a back seat to some of the pop music of the soundtrack for some key sequences the hit soundtrack does mesh very well with what's going on in the film especially re parker juniors hit theme song. The story of that theme song could be a episode of this podcast in and of itself. Although i won't go into it though the film's title in the end became a copyright issue. They discovered that film ation had produced a live action. Kids show called the ghostbusters in nineteen seventy five and that resulted in some unexpected lengthy negotiations at the start of the shoot early. Promotional teasers four ghostbusters ran with the no ghosts logo and it did not have the title and that caused some people to think that they were making a casper movie scenes mentioning gusts busters during this film needed to have alternate takes to use alternate names like ghost stoppers or ghost blasters or ghost breakers four weeks into the shoot columbia finally secured the rights to the new ghostbusters for half a million dollars and one percent of the profits for any ghostbusters films that they made. Meanwhile they weren't out of the woods with that. No ghosts logo. Harvey comics sued although unsuccessfully for fifty million dollars because the logo had a resemblance to fatso from casper. When it came time to publicize the film there was an additional snag bob. Woodward's book called wired the short life and fast times of john. Belushi was just coming out and that interrupted bill. Murray dan aykroyd in wanting to do promotional interviews. Accurate in particular was depicted in the book as an enabler of belushi addiction. Aniko kit himself accurate categorically denied all of this he called the book exploitative trash murray meanwhile would walk out on interviews if they started bringing the book up. He didn't want to promote it anymore than he had to at press junkets reitman and the other cast members had to field a lot of the questions while they're big stars marine aykroyd. They would habitually show up late to talk only to the reporters that they truly trusted. Nevertheless despite all of these issues ghostbusters shattered every expectation and became in nineteen eighty-four a pop culture phenomenon that exists to this day at that time it topped the box office for its first seven weeks in the summer that was dominated by big releases and it remained in the top ten for four months. It took in a monumental two hundred and thirty million dollars just in the united states. Only beverly hills cop gross more in nineteen eighty-four and that didn't even count the massive soundtrack sales as well as all the tie in merchandise. That not only came out in one thousand nine hundred four. It's still very lucrative today. Now if you wanna see how. Chemistry benefits film. I think you should look no further. The ghostbusters this is the perfect example. In pinpointing why chemistry work each part of this unsolvable adds to the overall peace to make it a comedic masterpiece. This is a movie that came out at the peak. Time for all of these actors and all of these creative minds to do exactly what they do. Best have fun with this material and take on one hell of a very wild and inventive ride. I cannot say any more about ghostbusters to convince you. It is a really funny movie. One of my favorite comedies of all time. I've watched this film. I would guess probably thirty to forty times somewhere in that range. And i just love watching it. I know every beat and yet there's just so comfortable and fun to watch. I can't give it anything less than four stars out of four four stars on my scale means that i do think this is an excellent comedy. I definitely recommend it to everyone. Four stars out of four four ghostbusters. Now there's a lot of other things to talk about with ghostbuster. Is you know this is a film that has a lot that people have written it over the years and so a lot of that material. I'm going to carry over into the next episode specifically covering thousand nine hundred nine's sequel ghostbusters. I have a lot to say about that film as well. So i hope that you'll join in and listen to that when the episode comes out if you have your own thoughts on ghostbusters that you want to impart. You can write to me by my contact information on my website. That's a quick stir dot net q. W. i p. s. t. e. r. dot net links to my twitter. Feed my facebook page. My are also there if you want to get in touch until next time. Thank you so much for listening. Join me on this trip around the world in eighty s movies. This has been and i am talking with my daughter lily. Lily's now currently nine years old and if you've been a longtime listener of this show you know that she used up here on early episodes when she was like five and six years old. Willy what have you been doing with yourself. Not really mostly school and piano. I think really saying is that we have basically burdened her with school and making her practice piano in her time she has had no time to be interviewed by me for the podcast which is of a sad thing but you have been watching some of the eighties movies with me and the one that we watched recently. You were excited to see even though you've seen it before you don't remember it and it was ghostbusters. What do you think about ghostbusters. I really liked the movie. I just don't like the parts where the ghost turn into scary things. That's like a big part of this movie. How do you get through some of those scarier scenes. I think those are the parts that were a lot of people. A lot of kids think are the most fun because i guess focus on the happy parts in the exciting things out of all the characters that are in ghostbusters. Which would you say is your favorite character not necessarily goes you all that s line guy slammer now as far as these stay puffed marshmallow man mr puck but do you think about him as the the bad guy. Were you scared where you laughing at. I think he's kind of cool. Because i liked and one thing i noticed about him is he unfortunately is not wearing any pants. Do you find that disturbing. I find that disturbing to you. I don't know why you you know he gets up and gets dressed. He puts the hat on. He puts the bid on. or what. have you in the tie and just as good enough now. For some reason during the movie you seem to really like race dance. Which is the the one that kind of like a kid. Sometimes when he's really excited about. I'd like race race dance dance. Billy likes ray. I happen to like peter mcmahon. Because i'm the big bill. Murray fan are there any characters in this movie that you dislike the library ghosts that turns into a monster. What about the terror dogs. I think that they're actually kind of cute. If you walked into your room in the terrier dog was in there you would actually be okay with that. I don't know if they're in the mood to snuggle. But if they're down for that maybe you can turn them around. Maybe that's all. They need to have more sunny disposition. Now as far as ghostbusters car. I know that you're really into really cool looking cars. Do you think the echo one is a car that you drive around. Because i would seem like a weirdo. Victor one has a lot of room could probably pack your friends in their pac stuff. Dan okay now. You would probably look like a weirdo driving around as a nine year old with a car full of stuffed animals so now we're going to be watching ghostbusters to next to you excited about that. Do you remember watching that at all. Last time really is completely forgotten. All of the ghostbusters films. But the good thing about it is that she can enjoy them all over again as if they were brand new. I wish i could do that. I've seen ghostbusters. So many times that it no longer holds a lotta surprise for me. But i do enjoy watching an especially when i can expose lily to it every couple of years when she's forgotten about it so we're looking forward to ghostbusters to on the next episode. So unscaled what ten. What are you. Give the first ghostbusters. Seven this is the lowest you've ever given any movie that we've ever watched but i respect that because we're at least in a scale of one to ten within the scale used to give them a hundred and stuff like that so scale of one to ten lily gives it a seven on a second time watch but the first one that she remembers. I definitely have my work. Cut out for me to convince her that. It's a much better film than that anyway until next time. Thanks so much say by.

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Bill Murray Just Made 'Ghostbusters' Fans Very Happy

Direct from Hollywood

02:58 min | 3 months ago

Bill Murray Just Made 'Ghostbusters' Fans Very Happy

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61: The Favourite

Feminist Frequency Radio

55:40 min | 2 years ago

61: The Favourite

"When I was trying to write the name down for our script, and like to talk about it in our slack. I just like it was I I write with the you like, I write I can't write like that. But I believe me, I know. Welcome sue feminist frequency radio. This is evidence sixty one I'm Anita. Zarghee again, and I'm joined as always by my fellow bed chamber maids Carolyn Bennett. Hello NFC Adams was a this is the show that asks you to be critical. The media you love or alternatively where the feminist killjoys coming for your media, depending on your perspective today. We're going to be talking about the favorite. And after that, we'll finish the show by each sharing a little something in what's your freak now on what the show, y'all. I had the most salty as bacon this morning, and I feel like I can't talk Mike used to your tongue still feel like all. Yes. And stuff. It's not pleasant man for salting is just don't do it. Yeah. It like you make meat for a living. Don't you know, how to fuck insult that shit? Where did you get this SAB package of bacon for my local not really what I'm asking? I mean, it's from an organic market. But I mean, it wasn't butcher bacon. But it was from like an organic distributor that does like sugar free. Paleo bacon said whatever I think, it was just a bad batch, and I'm very disappointed, and then I was eating cold. Which makes it even more salty y'all who no food. No what I'm talking about. Here is all of your decisions today have been poor ones. I worked out this morning. So at least. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Ebony also had a delightfully terrible breakfast. Listen, I I made this decision. So I'm sticking by. You know, whatever it's just some fucked up oatmeal, oatmeal can be so good. I do love oatmeal. But I didn't hook it up. Right. I think we all need to be more like Caroline and have a lot more cereal in our lives. It's just so simple. You know, you board into the bowl or the mail. It's it's hard to screw up. You know, it's hard to screw it up. I think I mailed it this morning, everyone airland. Yeah. We all need to be more like Carolyn, really. Apparently, our listeners want you on our Star Trek podcast as well. They just don't want. No Caroline, basically. It was it was so sweet too. Like, hey, so I guess this is what a podcast is like that Heerlen. It was the sweetest kinda shade. You know, like, yeah, we get it. Okay. We get it Carolyn who's gonna keep us on the rails. I mean, I thought it also could have been interpreted as oh there because it was like, oh, I like I like that. It gives me insight into feminist frequent. So it sounds like what it sounds like I, you know, gosh, imagine F R. If only Caroline wasn't on it. It would be like this. Let me read reminding like US Southern woman's bless, your heart. Oh, this is what it would be like with cow care us your hearts. So that said, let's get all of the Caroline our weekly entertainment news, Carol you better have something. Good for us because I already have a handful of shitty things we could talk about. Okay. Well, I did remember last week. We had that we came to that decision of like, you know, maybe too bad things one good thing. So, you know, we'll we'll see how it goes. Shit sandwich. It's great accepted reverse. We'll know I want to save the good for the last like an open face sandwich. Say down. So first of all, we can all continue having our favorite pop culture conversation of the past several years as it has been announced that Jason Reitman. The son of Ghostbusters director Ivan Reitman is going to be directing a new Ghostbusters movie set in the original universe. Details about the film are scant at this point presumably. Original cast members like Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, and Ernie Hudson may make cameos or be supporting characters my guess is that it will see sort of passing of the torch to like a new generation of Ghostbusters. But will those gusts Ghostbusters be all dudes? Will there be the one token, you know, spur fat woman among them? Will it be some kind of, you know, ensemble with women and men who who knows on a scale from one to ten how excited are you for this to them? Like this. I can tell you. I guarantee you that the crop of Ghostbusters? We're gonna get in this. You know, like rip van winkle bullshit. There's gonna be a black man in it to give kind of like, you know, to be the comic relief in it. Yes. Certain kind of comic relief. But then they'll be one woman, and she'll be, you know, like bad ass, but not as bad as as the men in it, and she will ultimately be the romantic foil for the main ghostbuster I guarantee that's what's going to happen. All right. Like, that's certainly would be very formulaic. And it certainly could come to pass. I mean, I mean, the original goes is a comedy. So I don't think that I love Ernie Hudson in that movie like Winston might be my favorite ghostbuster. And I don't think that he's I wouldn't call him comic relief because I think they're all funny in different ways. But no, I don't think that's what's going on in the original Ghostbusters. I'm saying for this new one I think that the there's a kind of formula for inclusion of people of color in by and large. It's bring like the sort of you know, street comedy like urban comedy. Sure, you know. And I definitely definitely can't be a woman of color because that would be going too far. No, they're going to try and spread it out. So they'll be a black, dude. And they'll be a woman and she'll be super hot. And they'll be like, you know, this like tired ass banter between her and the kind of alpha ghostbuster, and ultimately the story is still going to mostly be about like the white, folks. And and they're gonna wind up in bed together. I'm calling this right now this when this thing hit screens if I turn out to be right? I want everyone to send me a penny. Everyone in the world. Yeah. There's a lot of pennies that is a lot of pennies, man. All right. Well, we'll see we'll see how that the not only film. But the conversation around the film on folds in the months and probably one and a half to two years to come so brace if cellphone cited in other news, let's see Chris Pratt and Katherine Schwarzenegger or engaged plea. Not the good news. No. It's not the good. Pratt's announcement post on Instagram said, and I quote, sweet Catherine so happy you said, yes, I'm thrilled to be marrying. You proud to live boldly in faith with you. Here we go and also, you know, I'll alongside had sex. Oh, I think they probably have I say, I don't think these hip young, you know, churches that celebrities go to take that part very seriously. But they sure do take part the they should take like no gays or trans people part series. -ly queer t- reports that Pratt quote attendant anti-gay church with a history of child molestation and ex gay therapy in two thousand eight it was real that hill song church. That's the name of the church that he goes to referred many of its game members into ex gay conversion therapy, the churches since it no longer encourages escape therapy. But a former gig. Congregants still warns gay people that will never accept them this this is Christ. Yeah. Well, I didn't. Fuck this shit y'all like it is twenty nineteen. I know this is acceptable. Yeah. Isn't helping Justin bieber's church. Today's also Justin bieber's church. Yes. Just candidates take Justin Bieber back. I don't want to hear about him again real quickly since we kind of talked about this last week. But so by the time this airs, we're recording this on Monday on Tuesday, the Oscar nominations, I believe will be announced. So by the time this airs on Wednesday. We will all know that green book has been nominated picture. As it surely will be it did win best picture this weekend at the producers guild award. So they're kind of nail in the best picture coffin for for green book there. It's looking pretty, you know, it's looking quite likely that it will win best picture. Everything. Yeah. Pretty pretty awful. All right. So let's see some good things. Some good things. Images of Keanu Reeves with Dolly Parton made the rounds on the internet less thing blessing. Everyone's Twitter time line yet. So happy Jake Gyllenhaal as mysterious. Yeah. His view in the Spiderman far from home, but every year enough to say Anita don't say by a need. I'm sure super excited about this. I didn't know people loved him so much. I have those people so don't even fix your lips. Okay. I'll I'll just be here quietly. Yeah. Hit me up on what's apple later. So I can screen shot at and then call you out also where in the world is Carmen sandiego is now on Netflix. Apparently, it's pretty good. I haven't watched it yet. Oh, really? Yeah. That's why people are talking about it. Yeah. Because it's out. Those are those are all good things. So I guess I shouldn't bring up my one bad news thing this week. Just keep that to myself. We got time we got time to temper what was inevitably going to be a shit, garnish to are open face, pop culture. Do you have another good thing for us? No. I'm not a good thing. They kabaddi stuff, man. So really quick because we want we need to wrap this up is she played a show in Chicago. And she. Said that she like her prayers are with R Kelly and hope he gets better. And that like, you know, what are we gonna do if like the people he abuses, become abusers? We just gonna attack everybody like she went off on stage kind of defending this guy and everybody was like, well, no you need to see what she actually said. So I watched the damn video man fuck her she's canceled. Like, she said so much stupid shit over the years, and we all kind of keep forgiving her and keep forgiving her culturally. Right. Like who cares? What any individual thinks of this? But that was like, why are you even saying anything, and how dare you? So to me, I'm like, how are you? Not like how your prayers not with the fucking black girls that are being used in tortured. Are you you don't want gross about it is that Erica has been getting a pass because of this leg earth child? Bullshit this leg iconoclast eccentric. Whatever she's been saying mad problematic stuff for a years. Yeah. She should've been gathered up, and to be honest, many folks, especially black women have been gathering her up because she has consistently come out with these lukewarm ask takes about how you know. Like a girls need to you know, girls in young women. They aren't responsible for predation. But really, maybe they should pay attention to how they present themselves and how it's natural for men and boys to be sexually attracted to them. This is human nature whenever and it's like, this could not be a more uninformed bullshit, ask worldview. So yet, it's time to call Tyrone. It's big enough. Erica. We need you to leave the party. Maybe you just need to pray for Tyrone. Oh boy. All right. So sorry to ruin it next week. I will not ruin are happy delightful. News at the end there. But that shit pissed me off. Hey, all did you know that we can keep bringing feminist frequency radio to the airwaves because of you. It's true. If you were enjoying our show, please consider joining our podcast community at D dot rip slash February. It's where you'll get access to some fun perks and bonus episodes and really at the end of the day. You're going to help us keep bringing feminist media criticism to the airwaves, so please head on over to d dot rip slash van freak. All right moving on to our main segment for today, the favorite with a you. I might add because I was so frustrated when I went to the theater yesterday. I went to this theater. You know, the California here in Berkeley got a beautiful marquee and seeing that you in the middle of that word. It was like earn though spell it that way here when I was trying to write the name down for our script and like to talk about it in our slack. I like it was I I write with the you like I right. I can't write like that. But I believe me, I know. I'm so conditioned to like, not do it that I was like wait is it, isn't it? I don't know my head exploded. Anyways, the favorite stars the incredible Olivia Colman, Emma stone and Rachel Weisz in eighteenth century England, while there's a war waging between England and France, another war is we inside of the Royal house with Lady, Sarah and her new servant Abigail us emotionally, cruel manipulative tactics against one another to win the primary affection of a very unhinged and physically unwell Queen y'all how I wrote this one just saying, and I go in the war in the house and the outside is very proud of myself last night. It's quite good. It's quite good. Thank you. We're going to let you do. More of these Anita. No. I just was like, I don't doubt. It was like I feel like this is in competition with Caroline's wonderful ministry. We're on the same team. Anyways. I team Caroline is the best. Well, that is true I need, and I saw this film together with a friend and it was delightful seeing a movie with her. Although because you know, we sat in a row, and we weren't sitting exactly next to each other. I wasn't able to look over in share key moments of this film, which I really needed to be able to look somewhat interface and be like what the. Friend and was like, you're laughing, right? Lisa this theater. We were in had like four other people in it. Maybe an and the three of us that were there together were laughing our asses off like audibly in loudly. And no one else was making a noise, and I had to kept looking I had to keep looking over being like, this is funny. Right. Well, I think there's this expectation among many people when they watch you know, what they assume is going to be like period drama equals serious drama, right or period piece, rather equals serious drama and elevate, and this film like it. Yes. It is funny. You are supposed to laugh out loud that dancing like other way acted that. Then by losing your shit, and the theater, I lost my mind. I wanted to roll down the aisle at the time at the point when the dancing showed up. I was like oh my God. This movie needs to be called like white. People are weird like the weird shit that white people do right because at that point. There had been so many instances of like what the fuck is wrong with everybody. I love that dancing so much so much because it reminded me of like those like a nineties Madonna video. Oh, that kind of life pageantry. And especially because of the people of color in in the shot, you know, like it just felt very much like a set piece. And I think obviously it was it was designed to be that way. But I I loved this movie. You know, like, I absolutely loved it. And I will be watching it again. I didn't I didn't love the movie. I I have a an admiration for it. Certainly. I think that it's impeccable. The production is it's stunningly beautiful. I think you know, racial wise can have her way with me anytime only mentioned done at my house. She's I mean, but she and I mean, all the leads are phenomenal. I think that I just have a hard time getting emotionally attached to a story in which everyone's relationships to each other are purely about, you know, power games and manipulation. Like, there's no. No, there's no real human connection in this film because everyone is viewing each other as as upper -tunities as things to be stepped onto achieve a higher level of standing. So it's all it's all these like cold calculated machinations. And I think that the film. I mean, I think the film knows that like, I think that I think that, you know, in the end like the film is sort of aware that that, oh, there's like these people are kind of you know, because they've been so focused on these these power games and everything like, they don't really have anything of substance in their lives. And also, what choice do they have? You know, Emma stone's character, you know, she can she can spend her life as a scullery maid or she can like try to maneuver her way up. You know, what what are you going to do in that situation? Of course, you're going to try to achieve a better life for yourself. But. I think it's just a, you know, maybe a personal thing about me is that. So I mean, I liked the film. I admired it I enjoyed it. But it did leave me a little cold because I did see it all all as just this one big power game. And I guess I I I wish that that. There had been a little bit more authentic humanity in it to kind of contrast with everyone's you know. You know, cold courtly machinations. I one hundred percent agree with you, Carol like, that's what that was exactly my reaction when I walked out of the theater 'cause I don't I also don't like TV show. Like, there's a lot of shows that are heralded and films that are heralded as like magnificent. And I'm like I need to like somebody like I can't dislike everybody and still like the the material. Right. And so the tension with the favourite is that it is. So well acted it is so well costumed it is. So the music get such an incredible film. Oh, it is. But it was the I had a really hard time being like, well where is this going? Why is it going this way who what oh this is happening now? Oh, I don't like you after all. And I I had a hard time with that. Even though I can appreciate I appreciate the pieces of the movie that make it so wonderful, it felt very tense, and it felt a little long to me like I. Feel like some of the pace it because of the tensions in the back and forth felt a little bit. Like, okay. I'm I think I'm done with this movie. Now, right leg it when it when it ended. I was like oh good. It's over. I didn't feel that it was overlong perhaps. Because to me, it was it was a a wonderful way to feel viscerally how wearing and taxing and exhausting. It is to live in that kind of environment in which you must always be on guard. You must always as you point out. Caroline. You must always be maneuvering and kind of either solidifying your your current position or angling for a higher one because the minute you take your eyes off the ball. You know, you may be kicked down a wrong or further. And so yeah, like I felt that that tension. But as as the film grinded on an as the like the back and forth amid the manipulation were on. You know, I started to feel that you know, that that constant. Oh level of fear anxiety. How will you know, Abigail be outmatched in this scene? And then how will that then, you know, how will she then, you know, turn this situation around to her advantage? But in terms of like likability, I'm so in love with films in which the women are unlikable in at all of the women are to some degree unlikable that every level, right? So when Abigail is first introduced in given a job in the kitchens, and you know is betting down in that oppressive small space with the other scullery, maids, there's that battle even at that level between her and one of the other kitchen staff, right? Like for no reason that all this other woman has decided to torment, you know, this this new employees. This new servant because I think there's there's a hierarchy even dare exactly that exactly need is trying to assert that she is above this new. This new arrival by hip. Bye bye playing that kind of horrible trick on her. Yeah. And I actually appreciated that because I think so many films in which there's you know, a contrast between the upper classes and the serving class is below them. You know, it's very Titanic kind of move. Right. So like, there's this insistence on there as being this like earthy, you know, true nece like salt of the earth, you know, character to the people in the serving classes, and so I kind of love with this film. It's like, no, these people are also Terai like you're always scrabbling for position in for the tiniest bit of power that you can. But at any rate like at the end of the film, despite the ways that she is maneuvered and manipulated. Throughout the film by people who are much stronger than her. The fact that a Livia Coleman is able to present a Queen Anne to us who you can nevertheless, how that she's much sharper than she's being given credit for you know, that she has much smarter than she is being given credit for and that the problem is not that she is insufficient under herself, but that because of her position because of her gender because of profound tragedies she's experienced in her life. She is fighting so hard to survive in an assert achie- wants in in, you know, kind of claim her desires in a system that that wants to deny her any access anything the wants her to be simply a figurehead in that chair. Yeah. I do hope that. So I mean, Libya Coleman is is just fantastic. And like we've talked before about her being you know on. Hurt. Like, I really hope that this film is sort of a steppingstone to seeing more of her in, you know, in really meaty roles in made in films, right or or or more great television too. But like I'd love to see her career. You know, become a bigger, I guess because I just I just think that I mean, she's just she's just so great. I'm actually I was reminded of of our last last week's film, whatever happened to baby Jane at one point like a little bit with he she she appears at one point with this, you know, with very striking bold kind of makeup on and and so Rachel the wait. No, not retail. Rachel weisz. His character is Sarah. Right. You're avenue, Sarah. Okay. Like, she. She tells the clean flat out like you, look like a badger, right? And and, you know, her make kind of reminded me of the very extreme kind of makeup that Bette Davis wears in in baby, Jane, but. I was also struck by by their relationship the way that Sarah was able to be like so blunt with the Queen like, she understood that they had they had gotten to that point where she could say those things and the Queen was not going to say, you know, well off with off with your head, right or just because the clean could probably it seems like the Queen could if she wanted to in a fickle moment, you know, call for somebody's, you know. Execution. I mean, I don't know what the limits of power if any in that regard. But. It was very surprising to me to see characters not who who had earned the queen's kind of confidence and trust be as as open and with her as they were. I was just shocked that in relation to that. I I was heartbroken and also loved the scene towards the closer to the end where Sarah is trying to talk to the Queen through the door right now, the Queen won't let her in. And she's like, she she ultimately is like being honest with you is love, and like being direct, and honest, and not manipulating you. And not, you know, she which is insincere because Sarah does manipulate the Queen for sure, but the piece of that like in relation to the I makeup and in relation to other other matters. Like, I I loved that. Like, I loved that. That was it felt like a very real moment in this film. And the fact that that was still. Smist because the pain of honesty was too much for the Queen at that time as opposed to like just unconditional like fawning will. And also, just you know, sit Lady Sarah is insistently relentlessly. You know, brutal with the Queen. When she feels that that honesty is necessary. But she doesn't couple it with with the tenderness and the gentleness that Abigail brings right? And so if Lady Sarah had found a way to be brutally honest with the Queen. But also recognize that there are moments when the Queen does need to be cared for in a tender way. This film suggests this would not have happened. So you know, there's that key seeing where Lady Sarah first comes upon Abigail. You know, having a very tender emotional moment with the Queen and the the bunny menagerie and the queen's quarter. And she dismisses the importance of that because she's forgotten that it's not just kind of speaking truth to power, but has gotten her position with the Queen. She's made a very crucial tactical error there. And she's she's completely unaware until it's too late. How important that is? And we do see some actual humanity in her. I think there's a scene where she has letters that could incriminate the Queen right because they reveal that they've had a sexual relationship that these two women and she threatens to to release the letters and kind of destroy the Queen. But after she does that she does burn the letters. And it does seem to be motivated by actual kind of you know, she doesn't have any reason to burn the letters other than like regret or that. She that she had said those things right? So. So, you know, like those were that those moments the kind of fascinate me is where we do maybe see a little bit of like of people behaving, according to like actual, you know, more genuine. Just human emotions of their own rather than purely out of a desire to manipulate or you know, others or or position themselves with regard to others yet to to pull back a little bit. I was thinking about Evan. You're like I like seeing these women just be trash, right? Like we. Very often. And I was thinking about how this movie is about these three women like the men are very secondary. And very ultimately unimportant, unless they're pawns in the manipulation schemes for these women, and like there's something very nice about that for us because you don't like it's not often that you get these casts of women that are just it's all women unless it's like a movie that is created as like, quote, unquote, a rom com or like something that is targeting women in this sort of like, they're not usually these big award winning best picture nominee dramas. Right. And so I really liked just watching these women be the main focus, and listen I in totality. I think my issue is that with what you're saying. Like with what you're attracted to ebony is that we still have like. I would like to see still I would like to see much more range of women given roles like this right where where we can be just the fullness of human beings. Whether it's utter trash or delightfully wonderful or anything in between. And so it's, but it's hard for me to be to see them all be kind of trash in one film. Right. Because it's still sets up this like in my mind. I could see people being like, yeah. Well, women are manipulative or it could cements or let me be clear. I can see men being like, yeah. Well, women are actually manipulative right in in all of the ways that patriarchy tells us that women are that way. Like, it is our nature to be that way. And we're always going to deceive the men in our lives or whatever. And so I think that from a larger like patriarchy view was that that sat with me a little bit in this film. I totally get that I found what was interesting about the the presentation of women strategizing and women's power in this. Film is that it actually when you when you examine it it actually is quite different from the way that that it traditionally has been represented. So I think there's a traditionally when we see women who've attain some level of power or access and proximity to power the assumption is that they abused their their status as sexual objects to achieve that position. Right and to maintain that position. And so it's very interesting that you can make the case that that's partially responsible for how lady Seren Abigail achieve and maintain their closeness to the Queen. But the fact that they are using that sexual power and service to another woman. I think is notable. But also the film does take pains to show us. These conversations that Lady Sarah has with Godolphin or the leader of the of the wigs and lady Abigail hats with that. Her husband, mash them, you know. Where the conversations that they are having whether it's with other people or talking to themselves are very high level and very complicated and show like a profound astuteness, right? It's not just some sort of instinctive. You know, I want this because it will make me more powerful, and it will ensure that I never have to work as a prostitute down on the docks. It's that I have an idea for the preservation of the empire or for the preservation of England or I have an idea about how this should be run. They're actually quite intelligent. You know? So I give what you're saying. But I do think this shows us like, yeah, these women are absolutely manipulated. Like that is there that is their watchword thereby word, but it is a more studied more complicated version of that than we had traditionally have been given. Also, the men are manipulative to which I think is another piece of it that that smooths it out a little bit. I mean, not to dismiss what I was saying. But to to corroborate your point is like the men are also. All manipulative in this space as well. And they're ultimately subject to the decisions of the women around them. Right. Like Godolphin and ball, bro. Any of the men that we get a miss, ultimately if they want access to the Queen. They have to go to these two women, and when it comes down to the decisions about the affairs of state. They are subject to the dictates of the Queen. So no matter how powerful they are. There is always a woman who can you know, who sort of precedes them in power. Can we talk about the courtship between Abigail and the dude boy? Oh boy. So there are two scenes that I fucking loved that. I just wanted to point out. So when we didn't get a lot there. We don't know anything about him. He's he's key purely just a upon in this story. But there's a scene where he's clearly attracted to Abigail. He goes into her room. And she she's like are you here to seduce me or to Ray? And he says, I'm a gentleman, and she goes so rape. And she lays limp. And I was like, oh, my God that was fucking genius like that the whole way that that played out with so so pointed which is also throws back to at the very beginning. When Abigail I shows up, and she talks about how she got pushed out of she got pushed onto the carriage by this guy who was like jerking. And and like the way it was as soon as that they showed that clip and the way she talked about it and framed it, I was like, oh, I know. I know I know this movie kind of. Right. Like, I know where they're going like there's these really smart moments in here that are very they're not subtle at. All right. They're very bold. But they're also not the point which I think is really interesting, and it really I like how smartly that was thrown in there as we're not gonna sidestep over this shit. The other thing with their courtship. Is that weird lake when they're in the forest, and they're like, they're literally like they're sort of weird foreplay is fighting each other like he is he is like attacking her and she's fighting him off and pulling him in fighting off. And it's so uncomfortable. And you're like does she want this or not want this like what is happening, and it reminds me of the dance like it's a much. It was like supposed to be in contrast to like. Like, the I don't know what I'm trying to say like the dances this very formalized. Everybody knows it. But it's a different kind of the same bullshit in like, wacky and weird dance that you do as courtship. Yeah. And ultimately, the push me pull you this. She does with mash him, you know, doesn't and with her sort of surrendering to him. Right. And like, okay. You finally bested me, you know, in this love challenge of also. Yeah. But we also don't know. So she like manipulated her way into marrying him when he explicitly said he did not want that. But then we don't ever see whether he is okay with it or not you just see that one scene where she's jerking him off and talking about how she needs to keep the upper hand and his so let me he is. He is pushed aside as soon as her his utility to her is lessened. Right. So we later once she has been made the queen's favourite the first lady of the bitch. Chamber, and she's at that drunken party, and she's flirtatiously like rubbing up on this other dude in full view of mash him who just has to sit there and take it. Yes. I love this movie y'all clear and loved this movie it immediately made me want to go home and watch Amadeus. Because for one thing love myself, some baroque music, you know, and baroque blending into classical music, but I loved it. I loved an people have talked about the look of this film. And they've talked about the costuming and hair and makeup on this film, the monochrome black and white garb that everyone was wearing was luscious. It was absolutely luscious that the designs and the complexity in the very different ways people were dressed, even when the pallet was simply black and white. I absolutely love it. Yeah. It's it's a stunningly beautiful film and Vigili like it's. The locations that they shot on. You know, are you know, authentic, obviously palaces and things and and what you know, what I especially loved about about the physicality of the film is how much how much movement takes place through these kind of hidden tunnels in the palace. It seems right? Like, these kind of these secret passages behind just like wooden panels that don't really look like doors. I found that like really interesting just in terms of the design of the space. I but also like it was so jarring because it would be pitch black right until you think it's nighttime. And then they're like, no, this is just like a hidden alleyway. Yeah. But you know, I think it also I mean, I think there's a sort of symbolic level on which it works in that in that so much of what's actually happening at court is this kind of business in the shadows. Or like, this these that sort of thing, I also wanna I wanna? Talk at least a little bit about the queen's rabbits. So the Queen has seventeen I think seventeen rabbits in her in her bedchamber, and she reveals at one point in his kind of tender moment of of opening up to to Abigail that the that the rabbits each rabbit represents a child that she lost or you know, some of them. She says we're lost like, you know, before I guess some of them were miscarried some of them died. You know, were stillborn some of them may be lived a few days, and then, you know, and then died, and so so then like in that room in the queen's room, this sorrow this like these living. Symbols really of that grief, are like are always always there. And so so the final seem like the final shot really focuses on the rabbits a lot right? And and I feel like so that that final shot really stuck with me it because because it's it's Abigail and the Queen and Abigail is is kind of. A rub in the emulating stimulating the Queen. Right. But, but if feels at that point, it feels very sort of, you know, again, it feels very cold it feels very just like routine. And so and we see again, all the rabbits around. So I guess I guess it's just there's this weight of sorrow there in this feeling of like, oh, yeah. Like, this is what all of Abigail machinations. Have brought her to is this kind of like, you know, empty transactional role in this life of this woman. That is so dominated by by like, grief and loss and everything. I don't know. It's it's a it was a really haunting ending for me. Yeah. Of of all the things that I loved about this film. And again, I loved this film. I was that last shot stuck with me too. As we the camera looks up at Queen. N as she has did by Abigail. And then the mass of bunnies. You know, sort of fade into the shot. I didn't want that to be the last scene, and I'm still wrestling with why I didn't want that to be the last seen a part of it is because I wasn't sure what the if I as much as I loved about it. I wasn't sure if I trusted what the film was doing with female sexuality in the thumb and in particular women loving women sexually right? Because it seemed as if I don't know it was just one more thing that women can do to advance their cause. But it's never like there's nothing real it, doesn't it. Yeah. The film doesn't exactly like a present queer love in this like, affirming lions, it's not. It's not. That's not the story. It's telling right. It's not. No, so. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess it would I would have liked if there had been even just one scene where Abigail or Lady, Sarah or a scholar. I don't care had been shown like tenderly gets another woman. And then if we got the ending that we did I would feel as the film was not suggesting that you know, like queer sexuality is it self, you know, like a transactional kind of thing. Always and forever, but simply like in this instance, it I don't know I wrestled with that. And I'm still wrestling with that being the final scene and also because I just loved Libya Coleman's character and characterisation of Queen and so much that the final shot that we get of her. You know, like shooting someone from below is never going to be a good luck. You know from that close up, and I just wanted more dignity for her in. I don't know. I don't know my making any sense. Probably not. Yeah. You are. I mean that was a really I was like this needs to end like it's going on fucking way too long. It was a lot. And like, you know, the mimicry of this sort of in that position is very much the subservient position that we seem like stereotypically men do to women to like get blow jobs right until like the hand on her head and like holding her down. And then like the grief of the bunnies. Interjected of like, oh, everything is bad. Like, that's what I walked away from it. With was like, everything is bad grief. Repatriates it never leaves. It's always here. No matter like who comes in and the joy is always gone to some degree. It was a it was a really intense ending jolly was I did not go into this film doing anything about the house of Stuart. And I came out not knowing anything else like this. You don't go to this film for history lesson. It is wildly apocryphal. Although I did learn that both Lady, Sarah and lady Abigail did exist elderly read. Yeah. And have the general sort of shape of their stories that we see in this film is exactly what happened have parents. Yeah. Apparently part of out. In fact, a large part of the understanding our modern understanding of Queen Anne as this like sickly easily lead, you know, sort of grotesque weak willed woman is largely to do with lady. Sarah's memoirs in which she painted this very unflattering portrait of Queen Anne. And so our modern understanding until quite recently. Has been colored by this? And that's people are saying, you know, what that's not actually accurate. You know? I mean, I have no love for the British empire. But but Queen Anne did rain during a period of huge expansion for the British empire. She presided over and ruled over an England United Kingdom, what would become the United Kingdom in which tremendous political changes were occurring. So it's it she's ill served by the portrait of her that we have gotten in that portrait comes directly from Lady, Sarah, you know, so after she was sort of banished from court in exile. She took her final revenge fascinating. Yeah. And I know history history. All right. Let's move onto. What's your freak out? Caroline. You wanna get a surger? So in addition to the favorite I went to see another film this weekend, which is called Cold War. Cold War is a it's a it's a polish film. It's directed by an I'm sure I'm not pronouncing this right? But it's the director's name is Pablo Pablo kofsky, and this film is it's a black and white film. It's a very lean film. It's it's it's eighty nine minutes long. So it's it's very short for like a feature length live action film. And it's it takes place in from the early nineteen forties to the late nineteen fifties. And it's it's basically it's a story about two. Polish people a man and a woman who meet through this through this polish project to bring polish folk music to the polish masses and then also to tour and to bring them use it to to neighboring nations, but they're also kind of oppressed in in Poland. And and so over the basically over the years and the f- the few decades that follow. These people these two people these lovers are, you know, repeatedly kind of torn apart and thrust back together and torn apart and threats back together and the film. I mean, it, you know, a lot of it takes place in like these fifties Parisian nightclubs. And and I mean, it's just they're just so beautiful. I mean, this the aesthetic of this film. You have first of all you have to Leeds who looked like I mean, they have the kind of classic beauty of like classic. You know Hollywood movie stars. They're very they're just very strikingly attractive on screen and that like a paired with the environments that they're often in these beautiful smokey, you know, neon lit kind of Parisian nightclubs. I I it's just aesthetically. It's just it's it's a really beautiful film. But it's also, you know, as a as a love story, it's kind of heart wrenching. But there's also a lot going on here about politics about music. You know, they in the mid fifties. Rock and roll kind of emerges, you know. And and so there's the scene where they're at this club in Paris. I'm like, a very well known rock song starts playing and the dancing is just so exuberant and so alive, but but you know, that these two people aren't really free. You know, they're like having this moment of just exuberance and freedom as the music plays. But they're not really free and. Anyway, it's it's a rich film. Again. It's about politics and music and national identity in love, and it's it's beautiful black and white. It's called Cold War. And yeah, I I recommend it. It's very good awesome. Ebony. Okay. So we are recording this on Monday Martin Luther King day here in America. It's I just wanna share some stuff that I'm revisiting today. And I want to encourage people to check out one or all of these things because even though you won't be hearing this till Tuesday or Wednesday, or whenever when he listened to it that actually it's kind of the point certainly if you are an American you would be forgiven for never thinking about Martin Luther King except on this this day in January, except of course, for when conservatives trot his name, and you know, try and convince us in very spurious ways that he would support their conservative policies, which is largely bullshit. Yeah. I'm talking about you Mike Pence. Anyway, just there is an amazing piece called the whitewashing of the king assassination by phenomenal writer named van Newkirk. He's at five fifths on Twitter. We'll put the links to all of these in the show description. It is an amazing. Incredibly rigorously argued piece about the ways that we misunderstand king's legacy, and you know, the way we have engaged in this willful blindness about what he met during his time period. And also the ways in which resistance was heavily mobilized against him. And it's been sort of ossified an American culture, I want to also shout out the front of the podcast, Jay smooth in his great video tin other things Martin Luther King said because too many of y'all just know a couple of lines from the I have a dream speech. And then the final thing is the scrape piece that Imani Gandhi angry black lady on Twitter wrote called Martin Luther I don't know Martin Luther King's position on abortion. And neither do you. This is a response to the those people who advanced the notion that you know, abortion is a so-called black genocide and that Martin Luther King junior would be against it. So three. Wonderful pieces to celebrate the life and legacy of Martin Luther King junior. I encourage you like I said to check out one or all of the three that we'll be sharing excellent. I completely forgot to plan a freak out. So. I'm gonna do what I said I was going to do last week. If you heard the bonus sorry, you're listening to this again. But I recently watched pitch perfect again. And it was one of those moments where I was with some friends were like, oh my God. Let's watch something like, you know, like a sort of classic fund film that we all love right because everyone loves pitch perfect and yo-. It was made in twenty twelve which does not feel that long ago. But in the time. In like the internet time. Well, twenty nineteen that's an attorney. It's a massive amount of change like the. So isn't it? So this is the experience that I'm trying to articulate the film has a lot of fucked up jokes like a lot of cringe like fat shaming kinda homophobe, actually, not kind of very homophobic. Like, there's a lot happening in that movie that I even four years ago was like didn't really recognize didn't think was a huge. I don't know. I I watched it for years ago and did not feel this way. So whatever. And I was really like me. And my friends were all really surprised at how uncomfortable it was to watch. And I couldn't help. But think that that movie could not be as popular today if it came out today because of all of these elements in it, and so one that's disappointing and sad that this movie that like people still think very fondly of is actually really fucked up even if it is enjoyable for like, the other fun entertaining musical elements of it. But that like, it's kinda cool. How far we've come right? Like, we still have a long way to go and things aren't great and whatever. But like the media landscape is changed so much in however, many years that is that. Like, we don't we have a lower threshold and tolerance for some of the bullshit in our media. And again, I'm not saying that we don't still get crap. Like fuck and green book or whatever green road green. Buck rock green buddy book. And we don't get like we have, you know, terrible comedy shows. We have all this stuff, that's bad. But we have so much more other stuff than we ever had before. And we have so many more voices who have a platform that get to say that transphobic joke is fucked up or why are you casting people that are not appropriate for the role. Or like, why is this? You know, we there are voices that get to talk about the stuff and get hurt and get trending and get like put pressure on Hollywood to be fucking better, man. And I so I'm both like, oh, God, I can't believe it. And also kind of like thrilled that we have been doing this work. And there is some. The did there. Yeah. I mean that there's some action like you can see the difference. Right. Like in our in this short period of time. We can see a difference. So right, right. That's my freakout. We want to know what you're freaking out about. So please head over to feminist frequency dot com slash freak out and submit your own, and I might make it on the show. Yeah. We would like that. Please do that. I know I said we'd like that. But we really really would like that. So if I say it three more times, maybe it'll be real I'm gonna stop talking now because that's our show you back here every single say and be sure to stay tuned for the bonus episode which is coming up right now. But it's only available as a backer of this podcast, which you can very easily be by heading over to d dot rip slash free. Just a quick announcement. Are Star Trek discovery recap podcast is back and it is a shit show. And you should absolutely come. Listen to it. You could find that in. We'll blink it in the show notes. So please check it out. Let us know if you're listening. Let us know if you're watching the terrible show. It's gonna be great. 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Episode 10: Hadley Freeman

Spinning Plates with Sophie Ellis-Bextor

1:10:49 hr | 11 months ago

Episode 10: Hadley Freeman

"Hello. And welcome to spending place the podcast whereas be too busy working women who also happen to be mothers about how they make it work. I'm a singer celebrities seven hours in between having my five sons aged sixty months to sixteen years. So I spent a few plates. Myself being a mother can be the most amazing thing. It can also be hard to find time for yourself and your own ambitions I want to be a bit Nosey and see how other people balanced everything welcome spinning plates. My goodness it's the final part because not ever but this is the last. Episode of a series of spinning plates. It's kind of flame boy. How crazy is that? I suppose juicing Wheatley Becomes Little Marker Oh that's funny. There are like the kitchen discourse that we did during lockdown with like that he couldn't go as far it again and not go this put lovely podcast gone on and it's like, oh, it's Monday again as per another one and listen thank you so much for joining me on this new adventure. Of Love during this poll question I It's been. So it's a very selfish about just been interviewing and talking to really lovely women. And it's encouraging bit bolder approaching people I don't know already. I'm mentally fairly shied to be honest with you site. Initially, sending Lee, most people saying which leads to me was, I was just cringing hallway through it, but everybody's been so nice and I've been say fascinated by everybody I was in speaking to you learn so much that it's really i. It's maybe a little bit bolder actually. So if you think of anyone you think I should talk to you for the next series when you please tell me in the comments because I'm kind of keen to keep costing not far and wide I'm quite excited about overly. He knew people and thinking all and actually the guest. This week is someone I didn't I before her name's Patty Freeman and I just loved writing and so I was really keen to speak to hardly because I think she's super bright and really funny and just. Yeah Love Love the person she seems on paper with read write a book and I've also read her. When, she writes the Guardian. And yes she was lovely in an open talking to me and so brilliant and actually I've thought about our chat a lot since I met her because there's so many things she said that really resonated with me She talks she's able to the she had anorexia when she teenager and how that she felt that Kinda gave her arrested development. I think that really. Makes me think you know we we're so. In a hurry with ourselves to kind of. Fully formed versions of ourselves. Really quite young. You know we're not twenties but really growing up takes a really long time still doing it now, and that's that's okay. I mean obviously an adult and I'm responsible I'm definitely still Hopefully evolving. cause. It's not guaranteed guys is. anyway, I also everyone speak to hardly not just because I think she's funny but also because he's a writer and I thought. Colleague. When I think of people who work from home and of young kids hardly has a twin boys who I think are four and a little girl who's which might be too by now but she was I think one he spoke. back in March. I've been. Bouncing around with the chronology during the series I didn't want to be token about blaming of ours home. So yeah, this was pre looked down actually. People from Ireland they're writing anyway. You can hear me talk about that, and about had Jewish heritage which features in a book she's written woodhouse applause, which is a beautiful book about her grandma We talk about her dog Arthur and we talking about kids of course. As, you'd expect. At working mothers Golly. Sorry. My introduction is game more ridiculous each week they I am one of those people that find someone and then when I get to voicemail I, leave a full voicemail message of the conversation that I think we were going to have on the phone call only without reply Sarah essentially that's what I'm doing with you. Now see I can tell you about everything and I don't even need to respond, but I'm going to stop talking now because I think hardly has to say as far more interesting than my rambling on anyway thank you so much. My final guests of the first series spinning plates the wonderful. I'm so excited to me and thank you so much for letting me come to your house today. Thank you so. We. Will So I don't know how much explained. Really. I've been basically starting his podcast which all about working mothers because I have been working musician since I was teen, but I have also been raising a family. I now have five children and. I think I find there's a duality between half of feeling like really important and feeling I can do anything because of these sons in it's all going to be fine but also feeling a little bit little mum's net for him and my head also. Not, probably. Not Getting it. All done, right. And I. Think no matter who you are what you're doing. If you're working mother, you've probably got similar signs of your brain hundred percent and also when you have to go away for work which I do quite a lot and I have my boys I've got four year old twin boys and an eight month old baby and I'll say to my boys I'm GonNa Miss You so much I'm away and one of them said to me the other day. Then why do you keep going away? It was so heartbreaking. Yeah. That's a good one. Isn't it? So, totally no matter what you doing. You're thinking you're not doing it entirely right. But then I've got friends who are mothers who don't work and they have feelings about that and I've also got friends who work and don't have children and they have feelings about that. So I also know there's no one situation where you feel totally confident about. That's true and the reason why I wanted to speak to you because firstly I adore your writing. Thank you But also to me, one of the most challenging ideas is being something like an author when you're also raising a family and not only do you have three children as you say, your daughter's really little Chenier porn is at last July June. She's eight months really little also just released this. Book. Stupid Book. I, mean obviously excellent book that everyone must buy immediately So I I should say I did most of the research for. The children born new my husband because I've made such a meal of this research it took me eighteen years. then. I. Started Writing The book eighteen months ago. So I was pregnant with her for most of the right thing and I finished the writing the week before she was born and I thought wow, look at me. I'm so capable. But what forgot was that I'd have to edit all the proofs and I took four months off for maternity leave and I spent the entire. Entire of my maternity leave on my bed editing proofs I this whole plan idea I'd be like you know wafting around the tape modern going to the Wolseley with my baby because that's my twins and I couldn't leave the house and this time I was like who the single baby I can go out and do things. But no, I was fully on my bed just reading proved with the. Baby? So that was a bit of drag well, because touchy now unless the things I want to about because I suppose I started what have you got going on with your work at the moment tell us a little bit about your book house applause So my books just come out and it's the true story of my grandmother and her three brothers who were in Paris in the run-up. To the war and it's what happened to each of them over the course of the Twentieth Century and it took me so to do partly for practical reasons and I think also partly for emotional reasons if I'm on because it was kind of painful asking some questions but just practical stuff I to travel around France and Poland in America, going to archives and talking to historians and. Finding this stuff because I wanted to be true I didn't want to be a collection of family anecdotes because no one needs that So anyway, that's now done and it came out last Thursday. So I'm having to do promotion for that at the same time I am fulltime staff writer at the garden where I've been twenty years this June, which is the most tragic thing I've ever seen. Is that. Actually kind of sack an. Angel for Twenty Years some trying to coordinate stuff around that and yeah. In the three kids I and I took four months maternity leave which people think is a really short amount of time but I am very lucky in that I can work from home. So usually like on a normal working day you know take the boys to their little nursery around the corner I come home the baby for about half an hour. The CHILD MINDER TURNS UP I, go up to my study and then come down for lunch and I have lunch with the baby and then back upstairs and the voice come home they come up and give me kisses I keep working. Till about six and then I come down in then I take over. Okay. So you have a space in the house where you go and they know that that's your working space I mean they know it that doesn't Nestle keep them out of it, but they know where it's it's next to their room as well. But that's quite useful at night when especially when I was working on the book, I would put them to bed and then I could go into my study to work and I would hear if they were crying if they needed me. So I I quite like it I want to hear what they're doing. Yeah. No, I think well, if works as. If someone that rights? especially with east of the Guardian, it's so much about keeping your of clear voice. If it's quite impressive to me having the kids next door has actually helped you. So keep that clarity of who you are in amongst it because it could it could actually sort of. All your brain that means you can. We can do is think about what they're doing. I mean I say it helps that their next door it helps when their next door and sleeping. When they're playing their downstairs in the kitchen, which is two floors below. So that's fine. and. There are these blessed silicone earplugs from boots, which is always good at. Blocking out the world. So it's fine and I actually haven't found having kids has affected my work that in a negative way of anything is just made me get on with things I certainly dicked around over this book for say, Eighteen years and I. Think it's sort of telling that I finally started to write it when the boys were three and then I got pregnant and that kind of. The fire under me I just thought I've got to do this now i? Don't know how you do things with five kids sophie. I just thought once I have three of never gonna be able to accomplish a book like this again. Well, it's interesting. You say that because I wonder what it is about having the kids that didn't mean you certainly felt like that's of fire of let's get this done now. Well, I really wasn't until I had the twins that I being take myself seriously as a grownup, which is terrible because I was thirty seven when they were born. So I, definitely, still myself as a teenager for way too long and just I'm a young person why expect things from me I'm. Just having fun right write funny things in the Guardian and that's enough and suddenly I had these kids and I thought Oh actually I'm a grownup, maybe it's now time to do the things that I want to grownup. So they definitely made me grow up I'm certainly not saying that people you know only grow when they have kids. This is just a sign of me my emotional immaturity that it took until having kids to grow up. Yeah. No I think for me I. Tiger is is really important to me that the distinction is not saying if you're someone that's working and you have kids boy, do they really make things? Better it's not that it's actually more about reassuring. To. Sell another people that you can still get things done. You cannot still achieving a time when you normally are quite worried that that's never gonNA happen again and I know that when I first got pregnant with my first baby. I was really scared of what happened if I can never again, what happens if my voice sounds different lemons phil standing on stage it just felt almost so abstract, I couldn't imagine having those tooth. Hats I'd be putting on all the time, but actually you do gain confidence and you do get better with the focus think yet, and also you appreciate the times away whereas before it was just kind of working you're doing whatever and it is hard. It's definitely hard going away. I. Went on my first big trip in January I was away for a week in Los Angeles and leaving the house leaving the baby behind she was six months. Obviously our fathers here with. Turnaround but here with her father and the child minder and this wrench. But then as soon as I was in la doing the interviews covering the Oscars you're just in the moment any you can appreciate the times when you can work, you know pass the six o'clock deadline. You're not tied to the mealtimes in the schedule and then you come back and you're back with them and you enjoy them but it's also I mean, I, find it hard talking about motherhood and work and all that because you know we're all sensitive and I think talk about their individual experiences. You know it's easy to take that someone can hear that saying that about all women and all. Very much round thing and it it. It's because we all do we all look to other women see how to do it. Right absolutely and when a woman is talking about her experience with motherhood and work than you think she saying I'm doing it wrong. It's all mothers are different. Women are different and everybody's experiences. Right individuals -solutely no no, and actually I think. You possibly as well, the thing you said about feeling like you only really started to grow up and you late thirties might actually be more to do the I. If you find your I will success in two thousand when you're writing at the guards and. Things tend to crystallize little bit at the time when things take off and it's actually quite hard to. Evolve those things sometimes actually and I feel like I'm just. That's what I love about getting older actually as I am thinking starting to see myself in a different one capable of different things whereas for a long time take in the music world as well. You're allowed to just like you could stay eighteen forever if you want to. There's like literally people are. GonNa Force your hand. And it's not even necessarily motherhood that does that. mean. Motherhood might be the first time you felt like had to be response years. But you can still be. Selfish within that, we'll be going to day job and going back into that time warp of yourself. Totally. So there's lots of. Way. More. Complicated than that. No, and I mean you were so successful when you you were so young when you became so successful and certainly when I interview people who've had, you know that kind of success. It's funny how there's often this arrested development. Definitely I mean for me I don't feel like I was very successful in the two thousands. If I'm honest I, think we're kind. Of stopped me from growing is that I was anorexic as a teenager does kind of stop you in some ways like it is a way of stopping growing up in a lot of ways and I still feel sometimes a decade behind there's a part of me feels kind of in my early thirties. I'm very much. I'm in my early forties and I always feel like a decade. To University I still felt barely like thirteen. Really I felt so young I still treated it like school then in my twenties I kind of treated that time as university I was suddenly like you know taking drugs or going out like was my university time and I feel like I'm always slightly behind. So when I grow up till the my early my late thirties with the kids I mean, that's basically saying I didn't grow up till I was twenty eight in my mind but actually I was thirty eight. Yes. But then it's suppose I mean we're the same age pretty much. I think our generation may be the big march on the same anyway I mean I know. I mean, you just touch their on anorexia teenager which must be massively significant but even without something like that I have so many people down for me as well. That didn't really. Reach all sorts of anxieties when they came out the other side of uni or I mean for me, it was like definite my early twenties Sunday, though everything's kind of been planned up to I actually don't know what the is. But I you probably know this already, but I only just recently learned this but when you Become pregnant and have a baby, eat the parts of your brain that control your anxiety that actually enlarges. So you'll is social interaction and empathy and anxiety the primarily affected with oxytocin which I had no clue and it makes a lot sense and I kind of wish that before. But apparently, when you have a baby is the first time, you've really had to worry about things. That you can actually control so. If you're someone that's struggled with aspects of that before that must be A really big deal to be changed and so I think I mean from what I'm hearing I know for you these. You feel like you're still growing up and all these things and in a state of. Feeling like ten years behind but I think you must be incredibly strong person have gone through that and then had babies and had to go through that feeling of being out of control again, I. Don't you feel like as well. I mean I certainly when the twins were born, I would just be up at night like full of anxiety imagining things happening to them and I didn't realize everybody was like that I thought I was just this lunatic wolf fantasies in my head of like. Also epileptic, which just kind of added a whole different level of anxiety and I'd have these whole imagine scenarios in my head of like me having a seizure on the street and letting go of the prime and the prime rolling to the street like the fully imagined stories and it was only eventually like after two three years and I started mentioning these friends I thought Oh actually this is everyone it's not me being his mental head case, which is how I always think of myself. It is actually everybody who thinks and worrying about this so much when you're on a work trip, then everyone's saying he sees us on a work trip and something happens to the cares. And actually everybody it's not just me being definitely I mean. I think things almost like I imagine the newspaper. and. So. One Would I be okay about this. This is how they summer. And if I'm totally honest I quite often more often I'd like wake up in the morning thing. Is this the day something? Really? Kids and it's like it's a I think you everybody has these avenues say part of his nature is doing it deliberately because you know we're supposed to be responsible for these more people you know little to no common sense. And so you know you need to be thinking about that but sometimes, I mean I'll have it. Why are we lying in bed at night and my brain will go through a series of these. Awful. Stuff it. We've over things that are are particularly here with think for me is bodies of water was freak out about. I my saw my well. I think at the time he was four, my oldest he'd gone we're staying with friends plastic thing and he can't find dad and actually decided to go swimming and he was lying starfish down. That's it. He's. Ran His kid and he popped up when I got within about ten meters and went oh, mummy I was just holding my breath Michael adrenaline kicked in and I was shocking like a leave and I think. He must have had post traumatic stress disorder afterwards or whatever it is like even been like, how did you sleep that night afterwards? Yeah I do I just remember being in a blur and just Going over and over. The last weekend, I went away for the weekend for friends fortieth abroad somewhere, and this week had been planned for ages because when the baby was two months old, my husband had to go for two months for work. So there's always this thing like when he got back I could have this week. You have some time away up some time. My own says, okay I'm going to go to this birthday, and then as the plane was taking only thought what if something happens and everyone's like see the mother was in this plane crash she'd left her three children behind while she could go off and party and just imagine this. Daily Mail obviously. Everything's fine I got back. Just you know spoiler alert there. You do you just picture all these stories to and it's a way of judging yourself? Know How dare you take time off how dare you work. So yeah. But I mean, how do we move on from that because that's quite tough. That's tough choice. It is it I mean for me, my sister and I both work and we're both mothers of three and our mother was is and was wonderful but she gave up her job when we. Were born and I think we saw that she got quite board a little bit when we were in our teens and didn't need her as much. We were going out of the house much more and I think that just really inspired us to want to work on my sister works way harder than me. She's a a an doctor at John Radcliffe in. Proper proper job, which is to leave the house at six am every day and there'll be like three days in a row when she doesn't see her kids whereas like I sit upstairs on my also. but for both of us, that's always been the motivation of we don't want that and you know and it wasn't like my sister and I feel guilty about our mother but. We were always aware that you know that she's so smart. My mom she got succumbed loud at university that there was always more she could have done and I think we both wanted to to do that and to show our children that as well. Well, actually I was Gonna ask you about yeah. If you raise working parents but presumably your dad was working. All the time I. Yeah. My Dad. So he worked on Wall Street when we lived in New York and then we came here and he became a diplomat as he was away for long stretches, you could be away for like ten days of time or whatever So our mom looked after us and it was wonderful. It was you know it was wonderful. Coming home every day and our mom was there. She'd have snacks ready for US I. You know I do I. Am aware of all that you know that it's who picks the kids up I. Do know that but I also know that was a job that had a limit for my mother and then she didn't go on my actually she didn't want to. Do anything else she did she went to my school and got an classics a level and then went to college and went and got a classics degree that's Amazing Yeah. So she did go go off and find her own things but my sister and I just knew we wanted to work and that's what we did. I'm very impressed sister working God our as. As a musician, we tend to complain for like three days in a row of any sort of work. I mean my sister went to medical school imperial late wasn't photographer at the Guardian for a while and then she said to be a doctor and she went through two pregnancies while at medical school I mean my sister's kind of insane. Wow and she amy Dr John Radcliffe before that she was working in HIV hospitals in Jamaica and I would go visit her. I mean she works way harder than me and she had kids younger than me. So she's been in this game a lot longer than and does she do with guilt the judgment and the same way to you or you quite different I? Do you think she does and she also has less care so she does a lot more juggling She does, but she she's also much more pragmatic in me. I'm quite primarily to I don't I don't have guilt about you know my kids having a child minder nanny or anything like that. But I feel bad when when they miss me when when they with me, that's the thing my sister but I suppose as well. Just to play devil's advocate a little bit if you're doing a job like literally saving people's. You can be quite pragmatic because you know where you go, you're needed and you've trained on you've done all that work. So there's been a trajectory there's a shape to it. Whereas for if you're creative an, you've always loved writing and presumably writings always been some way you've gone to throughout your whole life as a place where you feel like this is somewhere where kind of know. Matt's. Is Actually, quite hard to always. Give give that right place. That's you sort of cut to carve into being all the other things you're doing and raising your family, but it's hard to to shape that sometimes because if you don't go to your computer for a day, no one's going to know. Right same. Exactly cares this? I. Mean You know I've read a book. Great. But the world's not going to collapse if I don't write a book and associate. With the Guardian I get to do fun stuff. I'm not one of their hard hitting investigative reporters and you think I'm going away for week to cover the Oscars like interview Corey fell and like do I can I justify? Three children to do this stuff and of course, it is fun and you know my editors wanted and I love doing it but it's not a life or death situation. I'm not you know. Still, need that things have all the e can't be all serious duffy nine. That's what I hope. True, it's definitely true. Last week I was rereading Your Life News. and. It was making me laugh out loud and that's that is actually a really precious thing as well. You know it's really important that stuff plus when you read a book like that and. Same generation as you Having that sort of Nice warm feeling of what resonated with you when you were growing up, helps you actually kind of remember the core of who you are. That's actually she provides a proper. Job To your now you feel about yourself and in it was really nice just to spend some time thinking like wait longer. than. About Steve Gutenberg. Choice. For. His performance one films made you think he could maybe actually. Really. One. Of the few people who's refused to give me an interview I feel very sad about Steve Gutenberg he would only do it over the phone. He wouldn't do it face to face and I don't do phone interviews, which makes me think maybe there's something with his face I don't know something very strange. But yeah, I've always been sad. Not Interview one of my great acting. Harris Steven, you interviewed from ghostbusters. Tribute almost all of them now really yeah. The one I missed. Well, that's totally untrue. just envy bill. Murray. And Rick Moranis another acting hero Robertson Meka's who's the director and Bob. Bob Gilligan Bulletin back to theater not Hookup Gail Sorry Sa- magazine. We're back to the future Ivan Reitman's ghostbusters. I'm interviewed Ivan Reitman a couple of times but ackroyd never and I missed. How Ramos which is said to me but all the rest of them, I have gotten I've achieved I. Think everybody now from back to the future rarely which I take enormous pride in that. Every. Single Person Writer director producer all the stars like literally every single one of. The best movie ever. Boy Idaho and Still a bit too young. So therefore, I mean their favorite movie at the moment is Muppet, Christmas Carol. which is a class. Even now oh yeah. Yeah. I mean they've got no sense of Lake. It's winter. Fair enough But I can't wait to start them on like Indiana Jones back to the future and all the stuff I just say. These actually, my four year old Jesse. He started watching little bits and bobs he's. Just. Seen hasn't the future but he's seen at. and wizard of Oz and he said we wizard of really and he said these these are special films they honestly that's interesting. It's something in the I mean I think at as well one amazing bit of storytelling. No, my boys were bit scared by I tried to the patients they found. Himself a little scary like especially what he's in Cleveland? Look. Look when Drew Barrymore finds them in the closet that slightly ski area I think they're probably few months now. So we'll try to ask yourself I. Mean I confuse my children's names. How do you don't competing? Do actually have to run through them and The reason for that apparently, it's to do with where in your brain new use of is like a file and your hair right people that give you the same emotional feeding of that's why is always like a little bit of A. Revealing thing. If you swap names actually because just storing them potentially in the same sorts of feeling about someone got off it. Yes. I call them by the dog's name. He loved. The dog was here before the husband. So I called the original gangster he is the og of the house. All. Day as Arthur isn't it? NAMED AFTER BEA ARTHUR WHO IS Ultimately and actually the baby relation giveaway the baby's name but she is named after another golden girls actress I want I want to have the full collection of the golden girls at some point. It's my favorite TV, show full time been golden a theme but they the greatest is the most what it was written by the guy who wrote arrested development. Hey. Yeah. So when he came over to promote the the fourth series or whatever it was I begged into him just to talk about golden girls and I arrived and everybody else else's talking to me about you know Jason Bateman and you know the Blues Family and all that and I just had one hundred questions about Golden Girls This lunatic. Talking about Blanche and Dorothy and rose, and all the rest of it. It's all good nines actually having great names. Yeah. So because I thought I was getting a girl dog I got Arthur the dog when I lived in New York. So that was like ten years ago and I was supposed to get the girl dog I was GONNA call. Her Betty. And then in the end, the breeders side to keep her to do something an Arthur was the runt of the litter and she was going to give him away and I. Actually I do be Arthur situation. Front run, but she had a fairly dominant golden girl. Author. He is more dominant than be Arthur was as you found out when you rang the doorbell and he scared the living crap out of you probably. Because I was impressed. So with the Puck you've just written. You've touched a little bit on how long it's taken. Is Quite That's real That must've been like a Labor of lovely I know someone said that to is working on I really bristled because that made it sound like a hobby and now that I've done it, I'm like, yes, absolutely was a labor of love and also while I was doing it, I wrote other books I did like life moves pretty fast because I just found it. So heavy going I mean there's only so much time you can spend the Auschwitz archives before you're like you know what I need to write about back to the feud bet and the book is actually not that depressing and. World War his only a tiny bit of it but that just required so much research and I gave up history when I was like fifteen years old. So I had to educate myself about so much is quite heavy going but the book itself is actually quite uplifting only one definite amazingly thing it's Jewish family in the twentieth century but there were times when I thought you know at this is kind of too much. I just wanted to do a fun book and in the end the family book I hope is quite fun but it just required wading through a lot of depressing stuff. Gets it is vital that these stories are told actually I think she really likes to go and visit Auschwitz because I have you been. Yes. Dad and I went it was last research trip I did for the book so he came with me into. March twenty eighteen and it's really fascinating. I mean obviously it's not. It's not Disneyland. But it's very subject to historical interpretation. So whereas if you went five years ago, the focus is very much on the bump point one million Jews were killed and you know what? I what was happening in Poland at the time was happening in Germany and it was their collaboration Cetera et Cetera now is very far right he called Law Justice Party in power and it's totally different. You go to Auschwitz now if you go on the official tour, the focus is entirely on the Polish dissidents who were killed. So seventy thousand Polish dissidents were killed and That's what you get. A lot of the Polish ministers in charge will say things like we don't want this focus on what they call foreign narratives, which is what they mean Jewish stories and various people who work at Auschwitz had swastikas painted on their house because some people pulling feel that there's too much emphasis placed on the Jews there's too much emphasis placed on Poles collaboration Polish culpability. So is now a focus really on Poland this noble victim and the Jews are kind of side dish and the weird thing about it when you go to Auschwitz. Is that there's a gift shop in the car park. which is so hilarious because like obviously, the thing you want when you go to our kids is an Iheart Polish. Auschwitz as lousy teachings. It's basically that and when I went in two thousand eighteen, I came back and wrote a column about it for the for the magazine for the magazine and Auschwitz got in touch with me on twitter reprimanding me about this gift shop and I send them back the feathers like here is the gift shop and they said it's run by the local municipality. It's not run by us and I was like that's not any better guys. It's it's not good that the local government has set up a gift shop in your car. Park. Honestly, all the things that I has just to my family over the years. Now I'm getting reprimanded on twitter by like gave us a break guys. It's that this has to be some great Jewish jokes being told by Auschwitz on twitter. That's All breaks ordinary and I just came back from Israel for the. Day Tonight We did a day trip to Jerusalem them. Some all of you know we didn't auspicious beginning for work in flight. So I just want me Richard Actor right and we they you can. There's lots of street vendor injuries and you can buy a crown of thorns to take your. Present for the game? I'll take five. Weird. Day. Be Incredible Merchant of these sites is always. So Fascinating Auschwitz or Israel whatever just. People need the money shore. Crowns of thorns is something else I know I suppose. Then when you're there, you have to find the the resonate. Thank, you have to find your own little experience off the beaten track but yeah. I, suppose I suppose it's always been the case I sure just. Very uncomfortable. For. The gift shop in aspects. Such a great Jewish joke. With, a gift Joe. I mean with with the put I, suppose little boys being four. They're probably to let's really what you do for a living. Yeah. Well, they know that Mommy and Daddy worked for newspaper. I mean my Andy, my partner is also at the Guardian because they see our photos in the paper. And they now know that Mommy's written a book about grandparent's mummy is how they take it and and there are photos. There's a few photos of me when I was a little girl at the end. So they see those and they see photos of their grandfather and book, but they have no sense really of what it is. We do all day and I mean I had to explain it to them. Basically that work is like school and there's why do you always working wise mommy was working it's like it's like being at school sweetie? As grownups do but now they have no idea. They have no concept that other parents do different things that Andy is a sports writer. So he's often working on the weekends. You know he'll be away for a month this summer because the if it's not canceled, he was away for two months earlier this year for the rugby will cup and them this is just the norm as it must for your kids that you know you mommy goes away to music. Exactly. It does take a while for them to get to the age where any Outside well I mean for me with my mom when I was little she was was ending. Children's TV thing. I think about seven six or seven when I realized. Oh. AM everybody else's mommy. This is on TV. But the different thing about. What you do for a living at the. Unique I think you'll be able to share that book with them. I mean obviously the other books too but a book about their family and their history I know what do you think they'll ever Wanna read it I mean, do people want to read with parents do I? Wonder if that's just like teenagers. Definitely one day I. Hope so and it is their story and it felt so important to do it because Andy's not Jewish I, want them to have a real sense of their Jewish heritage the background they're gonNA, Start Hebrew school in September I have that. Although I'm the one who's going to have to Schlep them there. There's no way. Andy's take them Sunday morning, Steve Go but I want them to know their background. You know what people went through in order to ensure their survival as as the cliche goes So yeah, that also maybe that was also another motivating factor in writing it once they came along as I want my children to have percents of their. Jewish. Jewish background. Yeah. I definitely well, I think say so. Everybody is so inference by the upbringing. You have got history and. Religion and cultural things and tradition like that. It's it's it. is even like the thing with work with what you do for a living, it'll be when they get older the thing. Oh Hannam not everybody does to Hebrew school. Stop being informed, and then you know they might think, oh, actually that's really interesting because that's made me nine influence aspects of my life I think. It's really good to have such a strong sense of where you come from and nobody has that do your kids listen to their parents music? Well with Richard Music there are a little bit. Love it harder for them to get away from it because ritual suddenly decided needs to listen to a mix of something and put it on really loud even if Mickey's just down for a nap. And He's a lot more I think maybe because he's the Bass player, he's a lot more. Happy to be playing stuff, and if people come around and be like listen to this thing, I've just done. whereas for me I'm Lou. About play stuff so I'll do it sometimes but no I don't I don't listen to myself I just for pleasure. I'm this I'm writing a new album in the mind sometimes I listened to demos and just check things but. I'm just as happy to play things through my phone, I report to let it all up. Speakers, and with my gigs, the last few gigs have done in London say to them. He wants to come and let lost some at one person for the hand up. Ray he seven he's very sweet I. Think he's realized the he has chosen very clever at finding. I don't know whether it was like the weakness in the damn but I think they'll think that characters brothers doing that that kids doing that I'm going to do that one's and so being being sort of. Someone. Nice. Enough to make a slot available for Ray. That's. Probably ground. Yeah he was there and it was really adorable. But I think for the most part they get quite bored when my gigs when I used to tend to festivals when they were little sunny signed to me afterwards. He should have had a climbing frame. People when they got bored orange. About the level of. Your studios in the House. So we have cost. US. That's what I like to go to work yet why I'm asking you about. because. I really struggle and plus I don't think I'm very. I've been very smart at how I've set my work. There is in that because I adore and I've done the same thing since I was a teenager pretty much I don't think I've told them enough about how she do still need to work earning a living as well. Have made them feel like it's sort of optional. It'd be like with your son saying, but do you have to just don't go? There have been. Pretty much everything. So I'm trying. Again. Let you again I. I feel like I'm only just now getting old enough to be like. A bit more unapologetic about my boundaries for what I'm doing and how important is for me. Yeah. I mean I would just say to them when they say what you have to go to work where you have to go way I say. So I can buy you snacks and books. Yeah say this works in Yeah I work they give me money I use the money than to buy things. Then they sort of get it. I mean. That's still let let's worst and I have to say I won't be too like scary prospect. I find it gets harder when they old I'm sure know everyone says that yeah, I mean I'm totally terrified of the teenage years but once they're older and they understand more and they see other mothers not traveling so much whatever then that's when they're gonna some stuff to say exactly I mean this time particularly in January I was so dreading leaving the baby but actually, of course was the boys who are expressing more separation anxiety I mean, hey, didn't. Buy. Off. You Go. Whereas it was, the boys would be saying facetime every night when you home, why aren't you here I want to do here last night at it that that's killer Hong. It's terrible. What was it like when you had your when you had the twin? So did you said you took four months off? Yes. It was about four months four or five months. Yeah. Four months off you. How did you feel about the prospect of having baby babies babies? So it wasn't Vieira for anything. So it was completely unexpected and I went in for the scan at six weeks or whatever was and the and the ducks had. So it's too and I said to arms. Legs and he says to babies and I burst into tears and Andy started laughing and it was just who's so I was so overwhelming and then you just kind of put your head down and get on with it and don't think about it and it was only since having the one baby this time that I realized. It was really hard actually and I really didn't appreciate how much harder it was having twins. I couldn't I couldn't leave the house for two and a half months because of just it took so long to feed them and it'd be a nap and the promise. So big and just was a nightmare with betty of us. You. Feel like I'm a high. With Betty. I mean as I in fact I was doing on my edits I could just put her in a sling and walk out and go to South Pole coffee shop or whatever, or even goats take modern of academically leave the house and with the twins it was really about managing out and with this with the baby, it's been about enjoying which has been really yes that's it I think. As well, there's a lot of people say this is I've got brother and sisters twins. I'm actually right mine ten years older than says my dad and my stepmom and I've seen I know how people when they come you know, hey, you're having twins and they kind of go ooh. ooh. WHOA and you know you thinking, well, it's just still my first babies excited and so you probably feel it and then they come anything actually this is really hard and everybody with their first baby. I'm pretty sure. Is Lovingly I know, I did. And so yeah I think. You probably. Now Yeah can realize a bit more that she having two babies. Yes. It's really how what but then when they get older Oh, it's no. Yeah I mean I think with twins. Two years is really hard and you know much much harder than one baby I. I can now see that and then after two, it's actually becomes much easier because they play together and you know if we had another baby, our lives will be actually super easy. Now, twins will happily play in their bedroom till nine o'clock in the morning like we would build up ally and if I didn't have this eight month old screaming at five in the morning and when we go on. Holiday like you know, we've only been on holidays family because you know it's quite hard traveling with multiple children. But now like I can I mean I, they played together whereas I've got a lot of friends who have one child and when they have one child, they're always on the ground playing with that because obviously the needs entertainment whereas I feel like we now have it easy. We go to a friend's house for Sunday lunch. The twins will just off in a corner and play together. They really do entertain each other but the first two years is definitely hellish and I remember like the first three months would be like one of the wouldn't go to sleep before two in the morning ever, and then I would feed at three in the morning, and then the other one wouldn't go back to sleep and it was just absolutely this happy when you were writing your column. So, this is when I was off work, and then in the end we got twins sleep trainer and absolute savior and everyone's like Oh my God that sounds so cruel or whatever really was I'm like. Just sit in the room with them and one of them cried she just pat them slowly until they went back to sleep and it got them both sleeping sinked up there sleeping, which is what I really needed, and it's got them sleeping's twelve hours a night which was naps miracle. But the irony is I haven't really bothered with any of this sleep treading stuff or anything with the baby it's just one baby it's fine result she's still can't sleep through the night eight months so I'm actually getting, Leslie. With the twins but it's fine I mean when she wakes up crying in the night, it's not that panic I had with the twins. If one would wake up crying to wake up the other one, don't wake up the other one. She wakes up. It's like it's fine fine. His dummy here's some milk. Here's whatever. Yeah feel it's much. It's much more contained. Yeah, and also I think in that they will grow a bit property exactly exactly happens I mean Yeah Mickey this. He only really started sleeping properly probably probably about month ago right? It's like it's really reason. Yeah, and you forget how nice is to I say that he worked up last night but generally a. Ton is go to bed and think I probably won't see any more people told. Me that she. Oh. My This period was way in Japan in October November and the baby was waking up like three times and I was trying to get the basically trying to whatever it is training the boys not to wet the bed during the night and feel like one night when it'd be like she would she would cry three times tonight one of the boys wet the bed and the other one would wet the bed and it was just like absolute chaos four o'clock in the morning and he's you you do know once you're past the first baby, these are all just phases. Just take much bigger perspective whereas the first time Reggie like this is my life forever it's definitely not everything's a phase. Yeah, and actually it's very unusual to have a house aware. But just like gets into bed at the same time. Yeah absolutely I mean definitely might as well they getting more and more into their list of quite quite good and then they get about three or four and they think man I don't have to stay here. I. I'm hungry on my tummy. You know I'm Horta wherever. An ongoing thing and I? Guess it's a time extra time they can have with you as well. So. With, that power it's I mean to be honest I didn't really wanted to sleep train the baby I, mean this makes me sound. So hippie and Wu and all the rest of it and I'm really not like that. But when she wakes up at three or five in the morning I think what little time I get to have with her and I bring her into bed with me and Jesus cute and warm and cuddly and I actually don't mind. You know I just saw your baby I would I would tell. Someone I wouldn't mind seeing it through. Stray sweet. and. What's it like for if you're writing what is it like when you haven't slept blow? My vocabulary ghost about quarter. It's not really in the I know it's funny I've done I did a column Oh I've I've I do common the Saturday magazine have to file on Monday morning. So actually just did in because I had a really bad night sleep than before I've just done a calm on sleeplessness for this week Oh someone's just say hello they're. Very interested. Just. Know Biscuits. Snacks, I mean, you know what I mean. You've got five I mean if you have to do it, you just do it i. mean it's how I feel like when people would say got twins how do you cope you like what am I supposed to leave them in the road i? mean he just kind of do it and they've definitely been times I've had to write an article or do an interview Nov had like three hours sleep and he just saying I'm never gonNA be able. To do it, but you do it you do I mean I'm sure I'm giving myself premature Alzheimer's or whatever destroyed my brain, but you just kind of carry-on terrible. But you and I remember before I had kids. I thought if I have less than seven hours sleep I'm basically a wreck now, I just like laugh hilariously myself with the past I mean I've done interviews onto our sleep and you just you you can I mean it's terrible I'm sure it's not good for you but you Know I know. So I, think if you have like that sometimes you think okay I can get the focus that period of time exactly and then die afterwards as. Yeah, exactly are very much I think I think is very impressive and I've given Hasek class to my mom. She's GonNa be next I have many many spare copies. I Have A. Lovely I'm also turning Richard He's got to read the life means pretty fast because. I find it. So hot warm. I was thinking actually on the way here if there's much depiction of of Motherhood, I, know there's parents in those movies, but there's not really many films. I feel like are about raising s maybe three men and a little later. Baby often about Dad's ads? Yes. He moves like Mr Mom with Michael Key. So it's it was the eighties. It's really interesting period where was this backlash against feminism? So you get a lot of this fear of the feminization of men and also women were in the workplace then. So obviously love him going out to work, and then there was this fear like how it's going to affect the family house is going to affect men, and so you get repeatedly men being quite useless. Having to raise kids and sort of screwing up and you often get a lot of mothers being away and therefore the kids causing havoc in the house. So there's a lot of things like risky business or weird science and that whole kind of thing know the thing that was kind of rift on in the yellow pages advert about needing the French polishers the parents go away the kids trash the house. So there's a lot about that. There's love ideas of absent mothers and feminist father's. There's definitely nothing that praises mothers and one of my favorite movies will probably my favorite movies, Ferris Buehler's Day off the thing that's really interesting in that movie me now his mother is so you have the two parents of Farris and they both work the mothers, an estate agent the father works in some unexplained office in Chicago but it's the mother who keeps getting rung up and told off by the headmaster for Farris being away meanwhile, the dads in Chicago going out to these fancy lunches in French. Restaurants in like watching parades out the window and flirting with Sexy Women And taxicabs the MOM is working to, but she still having to be a mom and that's really the message is like and it's also not an untrue message, but it's like, okay mothers you can work, but it's not going to be fun for you whereas the DAD's still gets to have fancy business lunches. Yeah. That's really true. Actually, I didn't think of it like that but you're right as the mum always gets the phone calls Oh. Yeah. Always, and it is still I mean, if one of my boys is sick from the nursery and deny we both work from home, we are both guardian columnists, but it's me who always gets cold up about stuff. Which is hilarious to me it feels still. So retrograde. Now I think there's a lot of stuff that has really stuck in that. So traditional roles and I think that's partly works when I thought about the subject of at working mothers maybe not thing anymore. Maybe I'm not really that much to discuss and I thought no actually because for better or worse I, think of myself with very modern thinker I have still got myself in really quite traditional role. And you know it's on the way here, I message the school about something that I remembered about and you know richards gone after work and. I just he wouldn't. It wouldn't occur to them that he needs to the school to mention that one of the kids score play. At that right and I've taken the on. That's fine. I mean it's not to say he couldn't do. Of course, you could do it, but I just removed that responsibility from him no no, it's fine. I'll do people those things are going I'm definitely the one who does the play dates I know the names of all the kids in their class, the parents you know I organized birthday parties Andy is very hands on, he does all the cooking. In the house he does all the food shopping I mean, you know he's very hands on dad his mom worked his mom was a headmistress of school but I still do all that stuff I'm the one who gets there. You know Jim kit sorted, and then we have literally the same job and it's still me who does all that kind of pastoral care? Yeah it's interesting. Isn't it? If I'm a together day on ninety wasn't very well so it's Yeah it's funny I I I don't really know why I've ended up being questioned traditional I. didn't really I mean, it doesn't matter which is a great data is actually in some ways I think I prefer knowing those things. control-freak someone quite I think I'd be very good at handling of the reins but then some of this is actually pretty silly. I kind of thought that with the nights with the baby Andy Hasn't really done that many nights normally me same time I I would feel terrible if I was downstairs and he was in the babies nursery like I wanna I wanna be with her. and I, and I also do like knowing all the kids friends. But at the same time you can you you can recognize that you partially chose this and at the same time still furiously for sent it I mean I would never go away for two months from the kids the way Andy I wouldn't. You know when the when the twins were born he went away for a month for the Rio Olympics and stuff and he doesn't have that same kind. I mean he obviously misses them and you know he makes her leave letter he leaves letters for them and cards for them to read while he's away. But it wouldn't occur to meet do that whereas it is. It still is I don't know if it's a biological thing or whatever. If that's just an excuse but like I was away for week and I and it was really weird yeah. Yeah No. No. That when I go to work one against the questions about who's looking after the kids. Yeah. Always. Yeah. How did you write a book when you had kids I mean Andy wrote a book friend came up right after the twins report and not a single person asked him about that and I. Know I know but then it's also especially with the. Well. Young children. It does seem to be still the mothers road is still that more. Withstood expected to be the one that is always there and yet you know. Providing the basics of nurture and that's not to say, you can't reverse those roles. You have any which way you want, and in fact, I've got really good friend of mine where she goes to work are husband does the And she's brilliantly straight up about it but it's is in stark contrast in most stories I know it just doesn't isn't in the nome. A my sister gave me this book when the twins were born. To know if you've read this to called Raising Boys Oh, I've I think I've caught on a shelf somewhere else anybody in Australian family therapist or something, and there was really interesting thing in the first chapter wastes from ages zero to six. The boys focuses all on the mom and then from six to twelve, it switches to the dad and then from twelve onwards, it's kind of about breaking away from the parents a little bit I didn't want him. To. Escape. To the Mama Yeah exactly. Live with me forever. And I thought well, that kind of makes it because it's true. The boys like if they wake up in the night, one of them has a bad dream or what's the bet they do call out for me like the instinct is still towards me but I see as they get older, they're having more fun with Andy. You know he can add to sports matches. He takes them like imperial war museums, tank museums on boring hetero normative stuff. But as time he'll take them teaches them how to cook and it's not like he some Weird Chuck Norris. Masculine. But they are now having more fun with the dad but it's still be they cling to for kind of emotional stuff. Yeah I think I think that so many how is that hello? they were office comes Tommy. He says, you've talking not long. This is another you're right now the endless small creatures in my house demand attention well, those I'm so aware of the are in fact I'm talking to you about we we're working. To guys child care for your three children. Feel like such an amateur next only three you have five minutes. Get dressed. Well. Sometimes, I go out and really weird outfits. School run the to myself. I was like Whoa this is really pushing him quite relaxed. was like. How do you do the school run with five I? Mean obviously you're not taking all fine. My eldest does himself also, it's an. Ideal is that someone's had the baby? Not to be. Carted so-called. So then there's two primary and then won nursery and it's actually quite straightforward. With us and everything like that. So that's another tricky, but it's more actually I find the hardest is probably having such diverse ages and making sure they feel that they get a time. Do separate bedtime. So I start at about seven and I don't finish till will kiss about nine he's eleven yard and then not going tell Sonny at about ten but I need spend time with him And that's more at. So really like Richard out tonight. So that's me like that's three. Meeting somewhere in the middle of that. You know it's not GonNa last forever I know it's like I. Keep remind myself and this is such a short period. Of time when they don't really WanNa hang out with me and right now they're always saying Mommy Mommy time and you want to have that time in the day I mean this is the thing I struggle with most probably as working mother or maybe just as a mother is that you don't WanNa be managing things like get up get dressed go to school we did. It. Up Brush your teeth. You want to be enjoying this. You know and having this one on one connection with them, and that's the thing that's hard to agree and sometimes like a way to work and people said, the kids have finally got I'm not worried about the kids. It's me the one. WHO's feeling sad I'm not there. So no I think that's really true and. Yeah you but sometimes, you are just getting by and actually. I've I've spoken to my mom about this and You know she was saying about when I was more than she was a single mom for one. She really selfish. I was going out all the time I was she just broke up with my daughter. She's I was you know dating and you know if honest it wasn't the best parenting I have. It didn't in my memory is not that I remember I was felt loved I always felt safe and we're really close. So actually We really have to remember that that good enough is actually still good as well, and now every day is going to be this or you know we cake and we've just done some painting and. The. Wiped out and they're just sports. Like we didn't even leave the House on Saturday. It's not ideal I'd like if we all went out for. Coming trees and things but. We did we just Need. Net flicks. Exactly, it's watch the macy's movies. Do. Tonight. While he's out if you have time seven to ten time if I'm honest, the sexiest thing was when Richard. Jigsaw Puzzles. That's my nights. Oh, my God it is have love. And also just when you can just sit and be and not speak and not have anyone asking you questions times after I've got all the kids into bed and I come down and you'll last like where something and I'm like, Oh, I am not answering anything anymore I ny exactly what I'll be made tonight game boy. Game Boy I'm Su- petrous. Moroccan, these things. Is it like an old school. The original that is Ebay. Okay. I need to get wanted the Super Mario brothers. Yeah. Thing ever remember you need batteries and an independent light source because it's not. Really the worst aspects of a game boy that's fine. My God. It sounds so good. Better that? Okay. took. Me where did you get that? Oh Yeah. More than the kids. And when I take him out to the park with the kids, it's actually the dog I mean it's actually the dog that gets all the attention. Everyone comes dog so cute. I'm like and these three children no, it's the dog that gets the focus. Off You so much. Thank you so much for coming so excited. Thank. You very kind of you know. Urgency, I will think you. Being Such big. BEAVER, that Arthur's scoffing at that. Yes. Yes. I get rid of him for continuity. Is. Automatic. Rely wants to us about. Move. Hardly mentioned when you're younger and you felt like you were so digging around a not of office is fine. We didn't mean to banish. You can be of some when you the but when you're younger and you felt like you is of had much more time. So about prop out. And take time to grow up. Yes. But you think that that version of you would think about you now and how how you mothering knows how your life has changed yeah. That is well. Is a good question I do think sometimes I would my eighteen year old self thinking about my forty year old self. But perhaps a better question is what would my twenty nine year old self think about my forty four year olds up I. Think I'd be surprised at how together I am I mean for all I just felt like I needed you know my own space I needed to go off and get off my face occasionally I needed to go off to Glastonbury and a Beatha and just stay up four days at a time. And actually have been okay and I can still go out and have fun I'm not like staying at home my mom I do go out to festivals do parties, but I'm not out getting smashed every weekend any stretch of the imagination and I think I'd be relieved while it did feel like to be honest it's particularly my late twenties early thirties my life was beginning to feel out of control and it has come together. Thank goodness. Isn't that amazing? It's incredible. And also to not be worrying about food all the time anymore I mean that I got out of hospital last time when I was seventeen but I was still like terrified of sugar and carbohydrates on crop until is probably about thirty one, thirty two and I was I look at photos of myself then looked pretty thin i. mean now I I look you know probably almost you know I'd probably overweight because I've unless the baby weight actually don't care and that's a huge relief to to like for that not to be an issue at all we are. Trying to bite my tongue say, well, no, of course you. Know it's not actually really about I. It's I mean I. You know last time with the twins I. Maybe you still a bit with the twins I. You know I went I went back into exercising right away after they were born like six weeks. Back to the JIM and this. So I haven't done anything I just kind of don't care anymore. It's it's fine. I feel like it's like a skin I've slipped off in a big way. Isn't that powerful thing because I think so many people go through I mean. A lot of people go through various issues with mental health when they're young teenage war in the eighties. But I think I mean you know you've touched on a little bit but you actually out of school for a long time and probably the idea the would turn into such a highly functioning successful adult probably actually age pretty seem completely insurmountable and also you know you can't really imagine yourself. You know without that part of you it feels. So feels like such a strong part of your identity might be scared of losing it and it just feels imaginable to be able to. I mean, if you're anorexic in the way I was this idea that you could eat. Spontaneously, to think I feel hungry therefore, I'll have a scone and I I won't then skip dinner for three nights or whatever like to be able to just eat without thinking is kind of incredible I? Think. There is a reason that it happens mainly in adolescent years I do think it is something that people who grow out of to a certain extent but you know if it's as ingrained as it wasn't me do you think this could be my life I could just go through my life never eating certain things and you know fearfully looking up the menus of a restaurant before going to friend there and and not have to do that anymore it's just like You free free up so much real estate in your brain. Yes. Wonderful. What was the people that we're worried about you and love you must be the thing they were always hoping for you. You'd get to that point and. You know it's it's it's a long journey, but it happened and also I think like. I I didn't think about it so much with the twins, which is maybe stupid because obviously boys can get eating disorders too. But especially once I had a daughter. I was very conscious of I. Do not WanNa Pass on bad habits. I do not want her to think this is what women are like. This is how women should measure themselves women judge themselves. So I am very conscious of not eating like that around her thinking that around her even though she's eight months old but you know you don't want to get into that pattern. I do stress I do know men get eating stores. There were men in hospital with me, but it wasn't something I thought about as much and now I am very conscious of it. No I know I can talk to understand I think say you people are really complicated so. That's manifested. Whatever you might. I don't know if you've ever really do on tangle exactly what it is that kicks those things off but actually I think when we always worry don't we about our children inherit from us that's not the size of proud of it's not true. But from where I'm sitting I, think. Your kids were inherit your strength because that's actually incredible thing to go through and to get the other side of and to be able to reflect on because all those things I bet just didn't seem like that day would come when you're in freefall concern I mean, it was just yeah. The idea that I'd want to have three kids and a job just feels you know that would that would have been totally foreign but I think every family has learned ways of coping. You know people talk about his alcoholism genetic or any of this stuff maybe in some cases. It is by I think there's also people pick up ways of coping and in my family, it was definitely always eating disorders. I've cousins with eating disorders. My grandmother was always really if you had difficult relations with food so I don't think genetic I think we just saw how other adults coped with feelings of anxiety feelings of wanting to express unhappiness, and the way was always through food and that is what you don't want your children to pick up. You don't want your children to think okay, I'm feeling really anxious therefore I'm going to drink a lot or you know. I. I WANNA. Have Fun. Therefore I. Need to take a lot of drugs or I you know I want to say I'm unhappy therefore I'm going to not eat dinner like, yeah you just need to teach them. You can just say things directly yes. Well, Golly, that's I mean that's a massive topic itself isn't about how we deal with things and I think actually we all getting a lot better at these things on nearly as Tabu and a lot more open I think it didn't really realize I think is your relationship with. So, many things is so to form pretty much by the time you probably about eight to ten actually you know love or money food or these things in your emotions but you know when when kids get to being a teenager. I E you've laid the groundwork if you given the them loving secure. They all own people under certain extent. You know we're only the MUM's there. So many other influences in their lives and you know. If they're always open and communicative and loving I don't think there's really much more we can offer, and after while people are going to be responsible for themselves. And gestures. You got yourself into such pickle with all of that. You yourself of it to. Sisters only fourteen months younger than me and she didn't go through any of that. So you know as parents we think everything is nurture, but there's a hell of a lot of nature. And as much as we think if I do everything right Mike, he'll be fine or goes wrong with my kids. It's my fault but they are like you say, their own people it doesn't really exist. Thank today because was the extreme of that keeping them innocent of the United States. That's probably going to result and. You know my my partner and I need a debate this all the time. I mean I'm all about protecting costing and he's all about experience. Yeah. Letting them feel this. You know it's not like he's beating them but you know things like you know how you know how much independence do we give them in? The kitchen on their own I mean, that's the level we're at at the moment. Koya and I'm like well, you need to them all the time and he's like they need to feel like they're independent people like we trust them. We're not hovering over them all the time and I I know is going to be a debate throughout our parenting. These things come out. They really do we've got. Richard and we're quite similar laser things but there's different things are probably our biggest Debate is about how how how much we encourage them either encourage or more firm about interesting things like music lessons because I'm very chilled I'm like you can have the lessons, but I'm not going to stand view saying practice because I'm like the pianos the really going to want to do or not, but he thinks, no, it should be a bit more rushing. You do five minutes of practice every day and we've feel really quite differently about it and I I don't I don't actually think I'm right is just I can't make myself into the stands over them. So it's really more with that but every every house that is amazing. What comes out? And I would say it's funny to hear you say the kids four yards to the kitchen own because my four year old is the fourth one down So I probably don't really know where he is. Fake family you can really go under the right to your daughter will experience. You'll be somewhere with your twins and a New York daughter will be off like juggling. That's what happened. That's the. That's the. So that was my chat with a lovely Hadley. Freeman thank you so much. Maybe two years Hadley love talking to you and also the book that She's written laws is wonderful I. Really recommend it not only was that end of my chat began to my series, my first series of spinning plates. Thank you so much for being part of all this with me I've. Enjoyed myself. I've really enjoyed having time. I. Can put aside to have these incredible conversations and so many amazing women and now I look to you to tell me he also should be speaking to you please I do read all the comments please comment and let me know who else you think would be a good guest. Cost my net far and wide, and it's been so nice for me to To, approach, people have never met before I just think sound Conaco and then another time to speak to them. So thank you to all my guests. Thank you you listing. Thank you to my mazing producer and friend Claire Jones Jones has been part of this whole thing with me. She is someone I've known since I was a teenager when she was larger, my mom's house She's a good friend of mine MOMS to but Claire is amazing radio producer and also has been incredibly supportive and encouraging me with all of this I thank you Claire You've been wonderful I want to thank Richard Who my husband he was unwittingly especially with everything that's been going on with Lockdown and all that stuff. He has unwittingly become my editor. I know that wasn't what you intended Darling, but thank you so much is given me loads of his time and support. So I really appreciate him doing that to and that's kind of us for the team. Really see the lovely elmes done the amazing. Oh, well, lucky for me. All of us will be back for the next series which starts again in a month and yes, me suggestions I've already recorded a few and I'm very excited about the people I've been speaking to. Gordon. Amazing. wishlist of course, but keep keep me adding to it. Keep pushing me towards a new folk So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's been lovely of adored it and For something I wasn't sure what kind of shape it was going to be I think it's been in place become actually a very important part of my life because. Of anything else is probably the longest conversations. I've had that don't get interrupted by small people or other stuff probably Oh yeah. The time when I press record on the little Little data fine, and then I'm just allowed to just be nosy and curious isn't that great fun. I hope I've been asking the questions to ask the people the feedback. It's been lovely and thank you. It really means to me. So yeah I'm basically just being very, very happy about things. That's a nice way to end. Isn't it see you in a month? Lots of Love Golf just.

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New Endings with Catherine Reitman

Dexter Guff is Smarter Than You (And You Can Be Too)

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New Endings with Catherine Reitman

"Hey, everybody, Dexter Goth here. Welcome to Dexter Gulf is smarter than you. This is season. Two episode one season two bit of a reboot for me very excited to be back. Very very excited to put the past behind me. For those of you that have listened to season one. You know, you know, what happened? I wasn't well disappeared literally. I mean, not I knew where I was. Other people were looking doesn't matter but season one I was not. Well, I really don't wanna reflect on that too much. I've done my best to kind of put that behind me package it away repress it, which I think most doctors would say is what you do with about experience just repressed that. But regardless I'm here, I'm back. You're with me. And the reason I'm here is because I want to change your life. Hopefully for the better that's always the goal can't guarantee that wouldn't do it legally, you wouldn't do that. But I am trying to change your life. I want you to be able to crush it anything that needs to be crushed in your life. That's what that's what we're doing here. Now season one is still up couldn't take it down. I quite honestly, I don't know what the password was when we set it up so frustrating. So it's it is still it's there. But if you need to go back and listen to it. Sure fine. You wanna hear somebody in a lot of pain? Go listen to it could be a learning experience. I myself. I can't listen to it. I can't go back there because I need to keep my eyes forward on season two Dexter Gulf two point. Oh, or maybe five point. Oh, isn't that a bigger engine? That's that's what they have in like Maserati a five point. Oh, it doesn't matter the analogy. I'm back your back. And the reason we're back is because I'm going to serve you up some thought dog, so I hope you're hungry now, let's get ready for season two. And let's do this thing. Demi that's your cue. This is gonna be fun. I dare you to listen. It's time on your mental treadmill? What takes priority? Your goals, your dreams, Dexter. Technology entertainment design throw that out the window. That's old news. Are you kidding me on? What was your biggest failure? Let me guess you're ready on Dexter, and I'm smarter than you. Feels good to be back. It really does. I mean, I didn't know how I feel too. I thought it'd be very emotional. Fortunately for me. It's not at all. But I am back and in a new studio, which is very exciting and with but with an old face Tammy, Tammy, of course, for those that don't know is the technical engineer of the show Tammy's back because she got fired from her old job this year, I'm giving her title producer. But she's mostly just kinda run the board. So but Tammy it's nice to. I'm glad you're here. And also Tammy recently, you had a forehead reduction surgery that right, which I didn't even know that was something. But it is. And it's your forehead looks great. I mean, it really I can you can your hairline does look significantly closer to your eyebrows men. It looks great. It's is like Mariah Carey kind of thing. Or a Don Draper. Like, it's it's great. It's a nice. You have a nice forehead now. So I'm glad to have you back Tammy. And it's it's and I'm glad to be back and Tammy was the one that actually procured this brand new studio hookup for us. And this is amazing. Who who did you say recorded here there album? Who'd he who'd he who'd he in the blowfish thought, it was more impressive. Okay. Well, hitting the blowfish recorded here. So anyways, it's professional, but it's nice. So this are you saying this who'd these old Mike God, where's this thing? Been I know how those rock-n-rollers doing gross. So okay. So we are back, and we have got an incredible incredible interview. She is a writer creator producer comedian actor performer director, they'll built the list goes on. I am talking about Catherine Reitman. Who also comes from a famous family. That's cool. So we don't have that in common. But that's cool. I wanna talk about that. And also, she is here to talk about her EMMY nominated show working moms, which has now just got on Netflix. So this is so much to talk about so much to unpack a so many details to see how she did it. So we're gonna do that later in the show can't wait to talk to her. And actually, it was Tammy that arranged this interview. I don't know how the hell you did that to me. But great get. That's amazing. And another interesting thing about Tammy. And how it relates to the Reitman's is Tammy you were a background performer in the original dose. Buster's. Is that right? She he's nodding her head. That's amazing. Tammy had said this just earlier this morning that she was in the scene where Rick moranis got the marshmallow man skies opening up a Marshall meant going through the streets of New York. And there's a scene where there is a Chrysler minivan beige, gold, gold gold minivan, and Tammy is sort of bent over crouched behind it in a blue KOA coat, and that's me with the with the original forehead. So it's a bit bigger. But so that's pretty cool. So if you go back take a look on that the original Ghostbusters look for Tammy she's crushed behind a gold minivan. Good job Tammy. So okay. So we are talking to Catherine Reitman later in the show cannot wait for that interview. But right now, let's focus on the meat and bones of this show, which is to help change your life. Won't you? Join me hand in hand. Let's walk into the thought palace for today's thought release. Breath. When you're at the end of your rope. When you've come to a point in your life, that's rock bottom where do you go? What happens next? Wasn't that long ago? I was faced with that. Exact problem. I was living in my parent's basement. And to make matters worse. They live in Bakersfield. So not only was I in a basement I was in a basement in Bakersfield, I was at rock bottom. A very good friend of mine reached out to me, very successful friend repower ful titan of industry. Steve jobs. Not not that Steve Jobs different. Steve Jobs, still killing it in the tech space. Just not as as good as that Steve jumps, regardless. A friend of mine said to me decks, you're at rock-bottom. It's time to boot straps up and start a new beginning. That got captured my imagination for a second new beginning beginning, I mean, this last chapter of my life had a great new beginning. I was killing no matter of business speaking engagements podcast. I was doing it. All I had houses in Los Angeles golf Shelley's Phoenix, I had three McLaren's one which I'd never even driven point which is kind of one that was in the living room just to look at and say, Yep. I on that. That was my beginning. What it ended in a basement in Bakersfield? And that's when the thought struck me, it's not about new beginnings. It's about new endings think about it. When you go to movie, do you go to see the beginning of the movie? No, he goes to the end at the beginning of the movie. That's when you're out get your popcorn a hidden head. Putting the vodka in the soda from the machine sneaking in five minutes in movie makers. No, no one's watching the beginning. Little excising. Breath. Imagine yourself in a cube. Blank white walls in a cube. That is your future now in the cube. There's a ladder. Now think about where you are on the ladder. The bottom of the ladder. The top of the ladder. What else is in that cue? Is there? Do you have? Is there is there ATM in the cube? Are you in the queue with an ATM a ladder and a? Mclaren. I don't know the ending of this exercise. And that's the point. I didn't think about what the end of the cube metaphor should be. And if I did if I put focus on what the ending would be. Then this exercise would have a point. But it doesn't all it had was a pretty cool beginning of you thinking about being a black Ube with the ladder. ATM your whip the ladder kind of cool image. I like that. But I don't know where the hell it ends. And that's why for me in my life. I'm not thinking about the beginning anymore. I'm focusing on a new ending. And my new ending has me being very successful businessperson. Successful relationships. Making a lot of money killing in in the podcast base. Helping people out that's my new ending. It's a happy ending. I'm giving myself a happy ending. And that's what I want you to do. Don't think about the beginning. Where do you want your life to end not in morbid way in in a successful way? A happy ending. And that is today start release. Wow. That was great. That was amazing. Hope he tried that at home hope you closed your eyes and did that visualization thing if you're driving. I hope he did not close your eyes. But when you get home close them do it because I did it. I actually did it. And that was I saw that ladder. That was really cool. Hope that was helpful. Today. We have incredible. I interview for season two. This is somebody that is going to inspire you because she wears many hats, and is incredibly successful in the entertainment business. I'm talking about Catherine Reitman. We all wanna manifest success? We all want to play on that huge stage. You know, what I mean put me in coach them ball. Not me. I'm not really a sports guy. But regardless you, get the analogy we want to be the quarterback of our own lives. In which case put me in give me the ball. Okay. I get it. 'cause the quarterbacks throwing it. I wanna move forward because I don't like that sports. Now g who wrote that it doesn't matter. Today's guest she's not a quarterback, at least, I don't know. We'll find out, but she is a triple threat manifester. She is an actor. She is a director or. Could be direct tricks direct tricks. I wanna get this. I want to get this gender accurate. Okay. I've already said too much. He's also producer. You've seen her on. It's always sunny in Philadelphia blackish and her recently EMMY nominated show working moms, which she created and stars. Of course, I'm talking to Catherine Reitman. That was a hell of an intro. Tell you what I got lost in the whole sports thing. I think I pulled out of that pretty seamlessly, but you were in the pocket, which is another sports analogy. I'm so why I guess so because it is basket basketball. I think pockets football or okay? Well, let's me get on that. We'll check in. We'll see if that is anything, but Catherine Reitman, I am. So what a thrill to have you in studio. Thanks for having me. And you're killing it. You're crushing. Thanks. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about working moms. This is the season three it is. And that means like first of all, you're killing it. But then in a bigger way you're killing because you've moved into the big stage United States of America net flicks. It's a big time. Now, right. Very exciting. Tell me about net flicks. I mean, how much did you soak them for? Oh, well, I'm not really at liberty to like share the numbers can write it down. I won't say it on the podcast, but I'd love to. I know that number. I'm just curious. I don't think going to. But it we we have broken even and recovering the show, which is wonderful oaken. Even that sounds like that sounds like a nightmare. I mean, breaking even as kind of like that's where that's I mean that has to happen. Exactly that I think that's one of the big struggles skill. This is interesting. So let me I would love to you know, what we can do this. Do this afterwards. We pro Bono. I'd love to just deconstruct that contract. Let me see if I can't get you something a little bit better. I don't know people at net flicks. But I do know how business works. But regardless of that tell me about being nominated for an international. Emmy, what did you go? We went. We went. It was in New York if you weeks ago, and we lost. Which is not as exciting. I know for the podcast. I could say one if it makes. No, no, it's fine. Actually, let's do that. Okay. Cool. You one. Okay. Yeah. We'll go back on this Tammy go back on this. So you want for an international EMMY for in you did it in New York. Put LA you're in L A on the red carpet. And you want an international. Emmy, it was so hot out and we won. It was it felt so good. God. I was wondering on those days. It's like why it's in a suit or you're in a nice gamut. It's so hot. I know. And I was I was in the nicest gown, and then we won. And I kept crying because of me winning not losing. Sure. Sure. Yes. Charged the stage. I one I just gave us beautiful speech and my father cried. And that's right. And I forgot about this, of course, because your your new come. There's a lot of biz of entertainment and your family. Your father's Ivan Reitman. Yep. And your brothers Jason Bateman note. And sorry, Jason Reitman. No, no. I've got not in my notes here. Jason Bateman is your brother and the big fan Jason Bateman very towels, and I'm too but not not related. Okay. So this is well this. Well, we can agree to disagree because I have it in my notes. So you grew up in Hollywood bright lights of Hollywood killer. And who so what does that like, I mean is it just constantly, you know, getting picked up from school. And then the next thing, you know, you're on the red carpet. You know, you're eating a catered meal by the Ivy or is that what it is was that what it was like. I hate it. As appointed. It wasn't. I mean, I have a, you know, a Canadian family, and it was really important that we everyone is home to dinner Canadian family to Hollywood at times. No sorry. My parents are Canadian. So they lived in Hollywood, correct? Okay. And what about for anybody that wants to grow up as the child of somebody in Hollywood? How would they do that? Well, that's I don't really know. I guess you if their parents had talent and retelling actors way to get those parents because that would be interesting because I like the childhood you're describing, and it might be for children who were listening, which is probably not a lot. But if they encouraged their parents to get into the game in Hollywood that might be an interesting path, you think kids should tell their parents to get into the entertainment industry's probably more interesting than having an insurance salesman for that. I don't know. I think insurance is kind of cool, and frankly of longevity exponentially, I can promise you. It's not. But regardless of this is cool. And so because I'm thinking about my own kids if I have them. Relationship. I've been in four marriages those are done. And fortunately fortunately for me at that time for a number of reasons, we didn't I I was doing a lot of cycling or just however the the shape of the saddle of the bike. We didn't have kids. But if I do if we can figure this out, and I find that right person down the road. And I do have kids I'm assuming they're going to have the experience that you had which is having a very famous, dad. That's how it works. Really? I mean, it would it would mean that you would have to have any interest. Do you wanna be in the entertainment industry? I would is this an invite. I'd love to you've piqued my interest. Not sure what I have. I have one movie idea. Okay. What is it? It's about it is about a podcast or who becomes a famous, dad. If he can get his vans n- efforts to Buell's fixed. So what was that? What happened your mom? A why did noble why she didn't? She couldn't. She's didn't strike a deal. She's not or is. She can't deal with what entertainment is she? She was she was a model and an actress and actually directed a movie called casual sex when I was a kid. I don't have that in my notes, so Jackson Thompson. I don't think. So no, she did those character names are those real people those are actresses, okay? One of them was on Saturday Night Live. You know, what I think we've gotten off track you want to get back to want to I want to get back to work in. Mom's your mom, your mom. Yeah. You know about being a mom, and I want to deconstruct this pincher because like in. Why would a mom? Mom, pick favorites with their kids. Hypothetically, speaking sorry. I feel like this isn't about this about your mom. I mean, it this is more hypothetical situation. But what I'm saying and it does aligned with my own personal of. Yes. But I'm not asking for me. I'm asking the hypothetical situation of a mom, clearly favoring cry. Okay. We can take on is. He okay, fine. I'm fine. I had yesterday. I had some typhus coconut shrimp and the spice spicy dip in that. And it's still I may have some of my fingernails, I wanna talk about moms. And I want to talk about why mom would have a favorite hypothetically, regardless of how that aligns to my own personal situation. And why would they do that? Okay. So not nurturing. You're right. You're right. And it's unfair. I have two kids. I don't. Well, I mean, yeah. Actually, there is one the who's just a little more. What did they do that? I didn't do you have any siblings. Yes. Okay. Do you want? Katherine really took this interview to a pre dark place, and I was hoping we wouldn't go there kinda got emotional there. And I wish you hadn't steered us in that way. But regardless of that, let's get back to you know, now entertainment and moving forward I to construct that contract. Let's see if we can't get from net. Flicks. Too much five percent. It's even that's better than most agents, certainly them most managers. That's ten percent. The deals really close to let them, and this is something that this happens lot in entertainment, people always get this wrong deal is never closed because it's not true car leases it, but in most deals it's not anyone regardless. We can look at that. Because I love to get you something sweet get you some of that Netflix coin because those guys have deep pockets, and that's a football analogy that was really good or pool pool pool. That's it. Pool pockets. Catherine. Thank you so much. You're doing this. Absolute pleasure. It was really nice to meet you. I hope you contact your mom and hypothetical, but it would be kind of I'm curious to hear if my mom had heard the listen to the program today, you crying. Dami were out. Wow. What a great interview. It was fantastic. Catherine reitman. Thank you for being on the program. That was a great interview now for you listening. If you want to see working moms, which is Catherine's incredible show EMMY nominated show, you can check it out on net flicks. So go look for that working moms or if you are in Canada. Maybe you're stuck there. I've no idea what why you're there. But if you are you can watch it on CBC, which is Canada's HBO, I think something like this anyways. If you're there watch it there. But then also ask yourself, what am I doing in candidates freezing right now? Okay. So that was a great interview one thought, though, Catherine this is for you. If you're still if you're listening. I'm not sure why you were trying to steer the interview. So that I would talk about my relationship to my mother that was a bit heavy handed on your part. I wouldn't do that. In future interviews with other people just thought for you something for you specifically to take away, but nevertheless, Catherine Reitman, thank you for being on the show. And for you at home, ask yourself this. What are your triple threat qualities? We know a Catherine's are we know that I've got a certainly more than three. But for you at home are you at triple threat are you coach of your daughter's little league softball team? Well, being very respected notary Republican your community, and you can make an incredible apple apple pie. Let me know what your triple threat is. I would love to find out. Also now for you. Dear listener, if we are not already connected on social media. Let's do this. What are we waiting for? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at decks got let's get some synergy going. Let's keep this conversation alive online. A lot of powerful things can happen in one hundred forty characters. And so until next week have a great week, go out there destroy your life in a positive way. And I will see you in one week's time for now d- Gulf out.

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Night Class - Batman vs TMNT / Godzilla / Galaxy's Edge

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Night Class - Batman vs TMNT / Godzilla / Galaxy's Edge

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So I found that a DVD the Batman versus ninja turtles yesterday. I was you know, it's a movie ok. Okay. Similar to like the Batman movie that came out, you know, it almost doesn't really know what it's audiences. Really? Yeah. Where it's like it tries to be for kids, but the tries to be for dull. But like the message is so basic where you're just like okay, I see what you're trying to do. And you kind of have this sort of broad appeal. But then, you know you have Roswell like lopping off guys heads and. Okay. Do about it. Yeah. It's, it's a bad ass version of Batman, and there's some cool fight scenes. And there's definitely some good jokes in there. But like overall you know, it's for kids, and, and look, and that's fine. That's really kind of what the big issue is days. Right. It is called Batman vs. Well, maybe you should tell every fucking thirty five year old line. That's what it's called, because I found a bunch of forums and a bunch of comment sections. And, you know, like this is the greatest movie ever the of the people like kind of tearing it apart. And unlike it's fucking children. It's, it's, it's, it's about a bunch of like people who dress up like like costing guarantees and punch other costumed characters. It's literally for babies. It's funny because I frequently have that. Different phantoms. I saw the new Zillow movie this week. And you know it was what it was. It was fun. You know, it was it's stupid. It's a Zillah movie. What are you expecting? You know, a lot of people I talked to were like, really pissed off by and surprised almost by how kind of goofy and stupid. The movie is kind of looked at looked at them. And I'm like guys, it's called Godzilla king of the monsters like were you expecting at a certain point. It's about a giant monster punching other giant monsters in the face. Yeah. I think though at some level, you have to be able to. When you do that. When you apologize for the character, you're suggesting that whatever it is right? The, the type of movie that you're making your grading on a curve. So it's like if the movie movie still needs to hold up as a movie, you know, you can't just say, like because it's God's Zillah movie, I'm going to give it a pass. No. That's not what I'm saying. But I think there's, there are people who are saying that there's, there's certain things are certain properties and things where you can you can make an adaptation of it. And you can make a quote unquote elevated at attention of it. Yeah. The X men movies are great example, I spent the last few days watching a bunch of those, and you look at something like Logan, which deal. Still delivers all the base everything you want from wolverine movie. But also has a lot of dramatic thematic heft to it, you know, and it's like a real movie, and it's great for that. And then you watch something like days future past which I think is also really great movie. But isn't trying to do that, same that same thing trying to be a fun action movie and totally succeed on that merit? And I think there's, there's certain things that work better like doing a wolverine movie and taking that very seriously. And all of that works doing a daisy future past movie, and not embracing the goofiness wouldn't work for that material, either. So what I'm saying is something like Godzilla or something that's called Batman versus ninja turtle. He got a kind of give it a little bit of a legal nature. What it feels malleable. It'd be like college. Like even if you're trying to make a mature version of this still comes from kids stuff. Yeah. You can't ignore that. But even with that Cetin. It doesn't excuse bad storytelling. No, no, no. That is the issue that maybe more critics are having with this, Zillow moving is like the story is just we clothe, the story is not good. I say that if you're like, oh, well, it's, it's, it's a fun movie. It's good for God's Zillow movie. No, it doesn't really work like that. It's a good movie or it's not an either, it's, it's fun because it got zilla or it's not me wrong. I had dumb fun with it. I'm gonna like recommended. I thought it was, it was a Oskar pick nineteen. You know if you've got two hours to kill guess. No, it's I enjoyed it. But I yeah I'm not going to be like, you know, fun, engage. Movie now it's fucking. Yeah. Okay. So I can see that point. But I also think too, like their other properties out there that recognize that, hey, you know what maybe even though this was originally for kids. It's no longer for kids. And I'm thinking about this galaxy's edge. Star Wars theme park. I've been saying for fifteen years as a Star Wars themed, bargain, now, they've actually put it together, but it's kind of funny because it's it seems like it's specifically only trying to cater towards adults in a way elements in there where you like, okay if you're a kid, you can have a good time, you know, corral, you around the, you know, these big pavilions, but if you're an adult there was a bit of an issue line because they wouldn't allow a dull toward costumes and the theme park this. Yeah. If you're over fourteen you're not allowed to wear like Qasr play worthy costumes, in the theme park because you're going to essentially compete with the costume the actors, they have higher doing and mostly, like sort of like with, with, with this with galaxy's edge. I think it's really interesting about it is, it's like one part, theme park and one part like Westworld like immersive experience fantasy kit is. Exactly. That's exactly it. And so I feel like that appeal of it being adults. I do definitely feel like that's intentional. And yeah. Because it is at thing of like there's such going aid. You wanna walk around in, in a Star Wars world for three or four hours, what, what, what, what kid wouldn't wanna be like, sure? Yeah. Just I don't even need to go on a ride. I'll just like hang out in Cantina for a while. But that was the problem that a lot of the more adult like super fans hat, right? Okay. That was what they wanted to do. But Disney was like, you know, we can't be in a position where we're liable for Darth maul working some six year old crazy bullshit, also, you know, they don't want fans taking pictures with other fans, you know because that's a money market for them. Right. You gotta take a photo with our Darth maul take a photo with that. Darth, Waller, whatever festival stuff. I get from a business standpoint, and I would hope that these forty five year olds were getting butthurt about that would realize, like, hey, as cool as that would be. Yeah. There are several very reasonable reasons. I can't go and dress Darth maul in Disneyland. Yeah. I think so. He like dressing up as a cowboy in fucking frontier land. Like, obviously, they're going to be like, no. We've got people that are doing that. Well, I think, though, maybe that's got to be the next level. You know, maybe at some point, they have to say, hey, you know what you wanna live in Star Wars land. That's cool. You know, it's a thousand dollars a day, and you get to be jet, you can be a sip or smuggler, whatever you want, and really do a Westworld type thing because I bet you, there's a market for that. And right now, they're playing to everyone, but if they were to sort of, like laser beam focused and say, hey, we're going to actually have these Papa pavilions come up and you can register and be a jet. They probably make money. That's absolutely where the future. That's going. I mean, even here in Austin of year before last at south by they basically built Westworld, they have the whole fucking town built, and you could go and they're actors need needed interact. Yeah. Stories and questions stuff like that, and galaxies edge once everything's. Up and running to be kind of the same way where you can sign up to go on, like different like branching narratives and have things where like if you're staying at the hotel there on the park, you know, they'll have, you know, if you're like a rebel spy in your own story, they'll have, like people like send you messages and stuff specific to that, and different actors in the park interactive who different ways he's escape rooms. Yeah. Yeah. It's that, but it's like the next logical progression of that. Yeah. Which I feel like that doesn't have to necessarily be a just a dull thing, but a large part of that appeal does apply to adults sense of, like all right. I'm gonna go and essentially live another life, or or one step away from like total recall, basically, I just wonder what point are, you know, the people doing it just like, you know, you are living a fantasy that's like, you know, it's not real. Yes. Something that I personally have never actually been able to get over. I mean, maybe I don't know like Pete sixteen whatever as soon as I was able to drive up playing with action figures anymore. And I, I wonder like at what point are people still like I still wanna be a part of that, at whatever age. And maybe this is something that doesn't go away. I mean, I think I'm a good example of that. Like I told you before we started recording. I spent a good almost our last night, just watching galaxy's edge videos. Oh my God. This is so great. Now. I'm obviously aware that. Yes. It's all fake. I know you know, but there's also the party that goes visiby really fucking cool. The to just walk around the millennium falcon for whom that are just being like a Star Wars marketplace. Yeah. I, I have I would hope intellect to realize the entire. Yes. These are actors in Disneyland. But there's also that part of me that goes, I don't care because this is part of the peel. Yes. Like its own right? I'm going on right now. Okay. So what you know, I'm not gonna get so spun up in butthurt about stuff at the end of the day is about, made of space, wizards. But they are, they are marketing, and they are banking off of your nostalgia. Oh, absolutely. And I mean and they're succeeding, they've got my money. What is it like a builder? Lightsaber kit, two dollars buddy can build a you know, one of these replica toys, again I know it's bullshit, but I'm still going to do. Is that this is just an adult version of a toy that Hasbro Baid like five years out? Don't think about aware of. Okay. Absolutely. Is I know that but you know what? I'm not paying two hundred bucks lightsaber. Two hundred bucks for the experience of getting to make lightsaber in a Star Wars environment. I know it's bullshit. And then another thing that's sort of I don't know, it really concerns me, but it's a something sort of thought you know what if one of these guys? What if they're like, just so enamored by surroundings? Like, yeah. This is what I've always dreamed of, and I'm on here. Well fairly if you're there for four hours, they have stormtroopers coming to screw you off fucking property. Okay. I'm not gonna lie. Gotta get kicked out. That is, maybe the coolest way it is publicly shamed. As an adult. Well, I being kicked out of fake Star Wars land. That's part of it. The other part is they actually nor you. Really? That's actually kind of crazy. Yeah. You wear an armband and if you are in one of the shops, and, you know, they're trying to buy something they won't ring. Yup. You know, they'll be like, well, you, you know, they'll try to be nice about, you know. Let you know you have to go. But then I answering your questions that you sensually you're no longer part of the experience. I think that's, that's actually really smart. Really kind of cool like low key way the ghost. Frankly, you know. Goes to their whole lives. More problem problem on galaxy's edge, because that, that is the flip side. And that is something that I feel like they're definitely gonna have to tackle in the next few months. Figuring out. Yeah. What's going to happen, occasionally, you're going to get that one loser? That's like so detached from reality. They're gonna make a scene when that happens. I'm sure they've got their Disney. They've got like fifteen contingency. Yeah. Track doors, they'll drop the person down or some bullshit. They have that it's like a policy there, like Disneyland if there's a crime kid, they run out with an ice cream cone. So if there's a crying adult, they run lights. I have completed lightsaber, and they let him put it together like finish as they lead them out the door time. He's done. He looks around. He's in the parking lot. Jide I night you tonight joke. But, like that's probably what they're gonna. I know I'm probably going to be one of those people where they're going to be like three you gotta go. I do wonder though. I do wonder, though, like how immersive can it be if you might in line with, like four hundred other people to be corralled around this fake interior of species? Yeah. I mean there's going to be breaks like that. Yeah. Amusement, park or augmented reality. Yeah. I do think it's really interesting. I was reading about how apparently they're at the park the way they had it set up is, there's, like Dolby surround sound speakers. Like at all areas of the park, the only thing you hear his Star Wars. So it sounds like there's spaceships like flying. Right. Above you. They have everything constructed in such a way that no matter where you're standing in galaxy's edge. You don't see any of the other Disneyland stuff. Oh interest only Star Wars. That's kind of cool. That's a little stuff like that. I'm like, okay. That's really interesting about this close to being a dome over the whole thing. And then they're going to build robots and you can fuck those robots and then we're going to be in Westworld, which that is the logical next step of where galaxies just going. Yeah. Although I hope it's like, yeah it's not tattooing world, right? Let me just jobs palace. They're gonna have a line right to go stand on a cliff that look at a couple of sons. Fifteen years that's going to happen. And that will be V busiest writing. Five minutes. Get five minutes to go and stand on alleged show and they have projected dual sunsetting John Williams. And they might even take your picture or shop, you into the movie they'll take your picture. It'll be able all. Absolutely do that. It will be four hundred dollars. I will be their first in line on opening day, eighty. We'll be right back. Hey, this is will valley. Just one of the thank you for listening to the show. This is the audio version. But if you want to check out the new video episodes, go to camel, moon dot com there, you'll find the most current episodes, exclusive content video essays, and an entire archive of shows that you can't find on soundcloud can also check out some of our cut down stuff on YouTube if you weeks after premieres. And if you can, you know, subscribe, their yada, yada, yada, you guys. Anyway, let's get back to the ship. Okay. And Rebecca won't get a little bit further into our topic the evening, so I guess the real issue that a lot of people seem to be having with I guess it's like these online fan petition because there's so many of them, and it's like whenever there's an issue with whatever the franchise is everybody just runs. I'm gonna sign up for this thing. And it's always like really outlandish requests like never happened. Watch. When I saw was like, okay, we're gonna petition HBO to get them to remake the last season, the thrones. And whenever I see stuff like that. I go okay, how many of you actually think that's going to work like realistically, that they're going to go. Oh, thirty thousand people signed this thing. Okay guys, let's spend one hundred fifteen million dollars again. Get everybody back together negotiate their contracts so we can redo the last two and a half years of work. We just did. I. Yeah, I you know, 'cause you do stuff like that. There was one also for iron man like want wanna bring Tony stark back, and it's like the reason. It's a stupid, you want to pay the hundred million dollars to get fucking Danny junior back. No. You don't know doesn't want to either. That's why he's dead spoilers. But no. But you know what though there was a thing with sonic. And it's like it almost seems like at least in that situation like it worked, although I don't think it was a petition with more than the petition was it was an outcry. That was literally everybody like collectively, not just people who Titian. Yeah, but everybody across the board who watch that the takeaway from that was the fuck up his face. Everybody that was the narrative. Yeah, no in the in the new trailer. He looks he looks okay? Like he looks like the cartoon version of the comic. Video game. But he's like, you know, he's a little his edges softened his lighting isn't really. And so I'm hoping that they kind of get their shit together. I mean they have probably. They added three months to the production. It's still not enough. But, you know, just from apart from the online fan petition when I do see at work is supposed to three you know, they announced that this thing was coming out because it was such a huge outcry. Right. Because, you know, oh my fucking answer. The coal was hot garbage, everyone hated it. And there was this outcry, but it was like it was all the man babies the ones who were going to galaxy's edge, and there will, like, no, we want we want a new. We want our ghostbuster movie. And then they, they answered that call, you know, and they said he's gonna what we're gonna get Ivan Reitman Sunday do it. You know, it's like all at this inner textual is we're gonna like all its fan serve. It's the same thing you're seeing the Terminator marketing right now. All it is, is just them going, like, hey, look, James Cameron, the Linda Hamilton back. Yeah. Leaning into Hayward. Finally answering all of your complaints and not really going into the okay, but wealthy like that's cool. But like, I hope that's not the only thing you're dependent on. Yeah. If you want to watch good Terminator sequel, go watch metalhead from season four of black mirror. Lear that actually puts it's a different story, but it's the same or just watch Turner too. They did it right. The first they made a sequel it was great. And they've tried to remake that thing for more times, but let's not turn in, but also back to the Ghostbusters. Yeah. You know, like when goes supposed to, to came out, they were sort of answering fans at that time, too, you know, and I'm gonna we're gonna talk about it for a minute, because it's actually hitting its thirtieth anniversary. And which I have as a milestone in my calendar. But I would I would posit that goes supposed to in a way was the first Hollywood sequel really. Yeah. Because I think goes supposed to to it. Did all of the things that you, would you would see now in a Hollywood movie. Right. It's like we change the car. They have extra proton packs, change the more, we change the music, you know, they everything sort of bigger and up until that point. You know, it really was like that. Yeah that's that's that's true because a lot of the big sequels before that, you know, it was either the Friday, the thirteenth JAMES BOND remake that movie over and over and over again, or you would get like really weird sequels like godfather to empires aliens that they're like vary. Like intentionally like very different from the first. Yes, they were trying to make movies. Yeah. Ruse with those supposed to do. All though, I have a soft spot for it in my heart management. Yeah. It's totally. What? It's all. It's how can we know looking at this as a movie, but as the entire Ghostbusters IP sure I can we also use this as a launching point to sell the new soundtrack. Yeah. Sell the next line of action figures, reintroduce the brand the kids, so that the watch the, the new animated series that type of like kind of franchise mentality. We see everywhere, especially you saw in that, man. Yeah. Which came out, you know, just I think it was a couple of days a week after the next week. Yeah. Or goes mostly. To the week before one of those. And then you would see it again in decreasing. You know, it was was interesting. 'cause they, they sold everything about that. I remember seeing news footage, Tracy of kids that were like in Macy's were buying them yellow trench coats and yellow hats at toys the watches they had the soundtrack and it was like, oh, this is a new market. It becomes, again, less about the movie and more. It's a multimedia event that yeah, that's something it's interesting because now that now that every big movie does none of them end up doing that. No weird in a weird way. Like, unless it's we just saw it with endgame, and really before that the last time I can think of that happening was the force awakens, a real genuine like big multimedia of vent. Like that doesn't really happen now even though all of these movies are position to have that same affect. Yeah. You know, it's becoming increasingly rare for you to have like a dick treat your Batman. Where it's something that you literally can't escape from it because they're so often so often. Yeah. Right. Because we were talking about Godzilla earlier you, like. Like, oh, I remember when the role in Godzilla movie buddy, and it's awful, it was the tentpole film of the summer. Oh, yeah. Because it was position as, hey, you liked dressing park and you liked independent day. This is basically independence day, too. But we've got Zillah. Got Sola one, but it's like you couldn't walk into make them anymore like toys, and man. And you couldn't see massive kiosks and or even independence day, right? In ninety nine it's funny because I watched fan minutes, again the other night, and I was the only thing I could remember it was bring up all these memories of the media blitz. That was that really magazines fucking juice boxes at, like Gogarty like literally everything up in a minute. And that was the beginning, the beginning of the end in a way that was kind of other than like until the dark night, I would, I would I would say Phantom Menace was kind of like the end of that for a while. Well, yeah, I mean, because they tried it up because I know when the Batman begins the on one. Yeah, the more getting that wasn't very good. Will it wasn't like they had toys and stuff? But it wasn't on the same level of old the previous move in kind of intentionally. So because I think I actually I actually did some reading about that, if you days ago, and that was a very intentional move on the part of Warner's because they went, okay? We have, like adult movie here. Yeah. Might not be like we'll have a toy line. But maybe let's not go as like hog wild into. As we have with last few of these. And I think that's always the issue the issue that we see with the, you know, the Batman in deterred, -als thing. And the but the Batman begins, you know how do you kind of branch? Right. How do you cross? How do you say, like, okay, it's four dealt also. Yeah. Maybe that's the future. I think that is the future. And I think that you're gonna have weirdly, you're gonna have a generation that's going to look forward to going to Disneyland less for going on the rights and more for the different experiences immersive experiences. It's going to give them. Yeah. So that really very well could be the future. Absolutely. Anyway. We'll be right back. I was thinking about petitions. I think I have a way to stop. Yeah. I'm gonna create a petition all the petition changed out over. Valley wants to end L petitions signed my petition the thirty thousand signature, yeah. I don't know ten million. Not going to happen. Online petition has gotten more than like three or four million. Yeah. One that worked just one. That's your homework. Please find this one that works. It is a comment. Yeah. Anyway, everybody that's show. Of course. 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Still ready to believe you.

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IS GONNA come along to Scotland Taylor's all of his team working and ghostbusters back in the day as well as his career. No which is awesome. We've also got Eric Barnum and Dan showing. I don't know if I'm prisoners. It's not so stop or Dan is guys behind ninety w C._D.'s on the future ghostbusters teenage mutant Ninja Turtles and lost lots lots. More of the guys are awesome. We're very excited. Come to Scotland Roland so if you've already go to go to W._W._w.. Extra Corn Twenty twenty. Don't call the U._K.. Check on facebook. We're under agriculture twenty four enough. We're also on twitter as excellent twenty the Mrs M. Roseau looking for some sponsorship for the moment meetings coming up I because we'll go some more guests to work on one is definitely confirmed or just waiting to announce them and the price we guest and work Conan at least one more maybe to a foster vein number. We've over the Internet that's before we'll go some guys who are involved to have a on similar events who are just really great what to do and have a low expedience. Kindly Ainley came on board to make it as as great as possible and all we wanted to guys just make cracking ghostbusters event for you guys. Everyone is welcome all over Scotland U._K.. And all over the world go people come from Spain Germany Counter America U._K.. Everywhere so you guys were really don't want you to mess. Oh please come along kind. Check and social media for we'll guess an announcement on the scene you you guys in Glasgow next. I'm are you going to call you. Get a beer. Some you know see every day knocker stance if you do the honors proud to Dr Rankin come on Kid. We got a job for you. That's NIP Ovitz. What goes post is news? Lou Rome will write some news of Komo Kamai Way and to help me this. I've got poor clock from the North Pole. Are you doing. Thanks aw great to talk to you. You ready for some news. Absolutely let's hear right. Did you know and I bet you do that. There's going to be four K.. remastered ghostbusters wanted to this coming out. This field yeah hit the earlier sweet nothing call last week quite excitement. It is especially Oh. I haven't got a full K.. Play all my son's. Go An xbox because I'm sure the xbox one is four K. Player and I've been P._S.. Four also I'm going to have to Mike Nichols Reamin and play it but Geno what was going to tell you about all it's it's got a couple of extras in the I've never ever seen. Have you seen any of these online these extras fabrics for a few years ago without the computer so these are what's on its apple. It's got from ghostbusters. He's got a fan commentary from incident Dimensional Cross Rick podcast which mentioned she dislikes week so that was quite nice but it's got some over base like this full ghostbusters T._v. commercial from the film you know the ready to believe you one. Oh yes yeah. Where do you believe you? That's info full plus this speech. He's been played on Youtube but it's Dan ackroyd and Bill Murray introducing the film to. I think it's for cinemas by all to play it. He's seeing that yes I. It didn't watch it but I've seen screen shots of them in front of the actor warn and it looks like I told to the camera but I haven't watched it well. We'll play a bit of it now. We're here to talk about. Perhaps the greatest how many motion picture of all time this is going to be one H F I'm the kind of thing you're going to your your children 'cause they dad. I can look up to you now but I never cooked cinema worth it. This isn't worth it. It's P._G.. I mean that's gotTa help. I mean P._G.. Pink Gums I mean the people who can come in eat and eat and eat that sugar and popcorn. You guys really know how to have a good time. There's no question about it and the soft drinks. It's going to be an exciting time for all this and I really hope that you can all be apart and if not well you got through Canadian film awards watching to look at ghost busters the brave the best the only ghostbusters Aykroyd and Bill Murray now. I'd like to see the whole lot of this poll because it's brand spanking new stuff in. I've not seen this anywhere no like I say anything that's <hes> not being seen before for a score. Sensors is always a bonus right yet is and out to what I've been looking at. It's going to be longer than put onto youtube and there's a real ghost was pitch concept pilot fan restoration. It's gold now. You're familiar with a film hopefully absolutely now. I've only seen screen shows but isn't there like a scene with the actor one inning graveyard or something so that's the the scene yeah so the story is the poster big fought some thinking they go to a booster so bits of it was sniffed in the film as we only got see parts of it isn't a bit where Dan Ackroyd AIDS carry tease. He's on the bed. That's is that foment yeah. That's one so finds a costume apparently he puts it on any lies on the arrest and that's that's why not came from. I'll tell you what Harley this ten deleted scenes from goes was. I wonder if any of these fans are going to reedit that all back in that be interested in one. It's a miserable people can do the you mentioned the real ghostbusters restoration before if you've not seen on Youtube <hes> the guy that did the test pilot relaxing producting others don't an unbelievable job on death never look at that one now I'll be interested in which this is going to cost especially being a still book version and it's going to be flying one of them shells owned if it's going to be preorder sure thing everything's pre. What are these days right yeah yet? You've a thing now seen as E.. Mini four inch P._K.. Eighty meter. Have you seen that jazz assume advertising yeah. It's like miniature little P._k.. But the thing that got me about it they did a video of it on the ghostbusters news channel on Youtube and actually did the proper film noises yet the big aversion you he get from the spirits Halloween doesn't have those noises why big up and this is really small yet. They called through the sounds as I still still don't understand why why were released a four inch you know I just I guess we'll be quite cool people because I thought it was like a key ring of something accent forage Kazaa Hollywood collectibles as well as bringing some new stuff out towards the it was the slima that you put on the wall that looks like as one on one scale slime at sculpture clue collectibles earth. It's going to be quite expensive. Awesome forty inches tall fiberglass body complete with hardware on the back for Wool Mountain looks amazing now this. Do you know what I'm not sure what it is was slimy. Would you say this slammer is Islam of Foam ghostbusters one or guys supposed to because he changed quite a bit between the films he did and I'll I'll be honest I think Hollywood collectibles they had as far as they had access festival original Marquette's and drawings of slam from and that's what he's monitoring books. I I think there's something off about. I don't know what it is and every time I see slammer and all these different different incarnations you always looks different of course process won't Swiss. I it's great to eat a look really different from the school and up can never understand why slime around the edify station places soil explained in the real ghostbusters. Also you know we've got some some news about the reboot goes put down the reboot ghostbusters look at that Earth's. Sorry fans the new ghostbusters film in Twenty Twenty. What's your views on on the on the new ghostbusters Ville? I'm excited I was apprehensive when I hate it was like allow your where I suppose and then the teaser trailer came out nature mixture rise watt hours after the announcement and it just gives chills the the music the call the slight on the fence and I just think from what I've seen so far what's getting shed I. I think it's looking quite promising fingers crossed while the Hollywood reporter has as news in addition to the casted and that's actress greats McKenna signed on for the for one of the starring roles. This is the kids so basically Jason Reitman. E actually tweeted out a tweet same meet the family now this and grace McKenna she played Carol Denver's Captain Marvel the young Carol Denver's should uh-huh but you didn't see her eighteen shops really in captain mobile. You've seen kept a mobile yeah yeah she. She's a I'll. I'll be honest. I think she's a grill. It locked purse. If you've not seen the movie gifted with him Chris Evans I recommended to everyone Asha plays a little child genius and Chris Evans is our own goal and it's she's really I've not seen so yet show. She's going to be playing the sister. I two fin woo hard. She's going to be playing talked about Fin Wolford and did you hit on a an M._t._v. view. He did not no he was auditioning for posters really in this interview with MTV they asked him you know digital. WHO's goes precede said nope absolutely nothing now they didn't they didn't say anything and he was in? They did some lines in the benefits. It gives you the the inkling. It was ghostbusters movie in fact. I should play that footage right now. You can't say much about but ghostbusters. I can be more excited for this. We read had anything or should still to or it's all secret. It's like completely you know. I didn't even know what I was auditioning for. When I really generic sides of like Guy Okay why wiser goes from the scene? Why do I have nothing nothing? There's no so that must have been a nice reveal when you got the call like by the way Oh cool. No that makes sense yeah. Let's do that with the strange. I think probably trying to a few people say other readings trying to copied. I bet successive strict on things are thought I guess the won't always said that he was us. He's suzy. Auditions used the right person to jumps on anything to to pull the wool over his is just to get traditional true and after say from when you look at him in stranger things season two and now he's proper lancair. He's proper criminal. He's until super fast. What can they do they do and of course the leftovers star Carrie coon as the cast members announced g think any of the original cast are going to be in this? I don't from what I even sorry Ivan. What Jason said about the fines I called see it being a little out of the fans ends without the inclusion of the original cast I saw a picture of Dan ackroyd lately and he's lost a lot of way and I was thinking he can't trying to get back in that flight suit corpuscle now talking about Jason Reitman tweeting? He's he's just tweeted at Nova tweet today and it's got what looks like the actor one were parts of the extra one on a shelf or some people were saying that Pottsville from extra one. Who can you tell I can't tell personally but I'll be honest paid that much to fend doesn't things on the cause and I'm looking at what you're on this feature in ghostbusters news actually and <music> says more observant viewers will likely notice the gorilla pays to be the exact same that was featured on extra one eight goes supposed to say you're dead right and it's the front was I it was the front but there were so people have donate a photo? It's a photo comparison showing you the boom paw and the front of the car and I must admit the picture they've used of ACTA. One eight looks like it's been in front smash saw take. It's been in disrepair for quite some time yeah. It's it's it's sound. The Saudi blocked fight for years as far as I was a petition setup about about four or five years ago by G._B.. Fonts to try try and by but nothing king but yeah just sat there brought me as a man that's sad so I call way this bill and as we go on the year more and more is GonNa come out to the the spot is on the road stalled salt spun the call guided around behind the scenes shots member of the behind the scenes shelves to the guts posters reboot. They did yeah like at the time everyone was really ramped soap for things Change Ryan well that brings his definitely to the end of the news and I just WanNa say thanks for coming on and during the newswoman you're very welcome U.. K. What he what is it a missed or did it of arms and legs out okay Bernice Hi my name's clots from the North School system and you'll beat the conscious of these following events on May the Twelfth Swinburne unleashed during the twenty third not Saint Comecon July the twenty first we are Newcastle unleashed and oversee eleventh. We Are York unleashed drop by the table say hi we have the green screen for free four graphs. 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I better answer that since she's on her lunch I lo- ghost heads podcasts you K- how can help you hide James in strays from took entree twenty how you doing. I'm I'm not too bad however you. I'm not of music he'd lay it. I'll go ahead on update goodness. Yes ooh let me put on the echo convoys virtual gone yet so would you like to know who our next guest is going to be. Absolutely we have got Jason Marston. Aka Garrett from Mitchen ghostbusters come into Scotland lecture. Oh Wow in amazing that is amazing if only Kenner for it produced a figure that we take them to get signed. I think we need to get some custom tigers but just quickly Jason's credits because we are trying to get all that sort for the announcement okay say young justice the C._D.'s Bar Island and kid flash he was in duct tales then you see is the lying guard is in transformers rescue boats secretly pets the legend of Cora Diablo the the God huge show ultimate Spiderman after screw those and Scooby Doo wasn't he also give a movie he was Mac and a goofy movie year and Hocus pocus maybe he was. I believe you see I think he wasn't he also need the cat. I think he was the cat yes he was. He was the voice of factory banks which is also he was also in gummy bears. Everyone loves to call me back. Who doesn't make a gummy Lydia Kevin he was also the easy Indiana when my t._v. shows yeah? That's a great show but SAM WELF US gun buys. I'm debate. Man's got too many to mention. There's loads tons of stop using a young Bruce Wayne <unk>. He's not he's done currencies I._M._D._b.. Yeah he's done two hundred seven in credits. Wow what a busy guy is on. I do believe that this is his first Scottish the U._K.. Convention I don't find on the U._K.. Convention before this amazing is so you just have to bag him so a bag them so star now. We have a ghost awesome absolutely fantastic news absolutely so that's pretty fun came tastefully tickets will increase yeah and you can also by your photograph session with him on the took on twitter could at U._K.. That's awesome news and by the time this podcast is released. You already announced Jason Jason on your facebook page so listeners can head over there for more details on all of your current guests and hope there's mortar follow so we're working on a few more cannot some more comic guests and works worker name at the movement. If you keep an eye on or twitter you see her speaking. If you WANNA clear we are so so what can on a beverly agent in the Voice of our community. Actually it would complement Jason wonderfully so we just I need to wait and see what happens. Well absolutely I'm looking forward to already taken the call. You're busy cat logan. Your spores moods and fungus gets everywhere especially. If you leave the lids off that's for sure at the the job joke today. Yes it is absolutely well. Thank you frazier for coming on and <hes> please keep us update with anything going on with Atacan by go said by early this month added Great Chapel the founder of the Gospel of Scotland and a host to actor on twenty twenty plus has a woman show could still ready to believe you also skype was not good at armed for this audio back but I did get bow promise and this is an entity down from a full hour twenty minutes which you can find on my patron Beijing so please give it up for Desk O'Gorman. Are you doing days. I'm good Jimmy. Thank you for having me. Oh no problem welcome to go set you K- podcast. I've been wanting to get chapel you anyway because you are going to be doing some hosting and do an S.. At live stage version of ghostbusters boosted could still ready typically. Yes it's my one month tribute show to one of the greatest franchises ever commit of the Nineteen Eighty S. How did you get into a into ghost was she? South on because I remember when I go into to lose many years ago actually on opening night and for by well then you come by the Proton Paxil the the outfits or any fill out from you know the toy as spots <hes> stalls so <hes> so it goes now motor I can go out all the star wars start you want as well you know then that's still open for you. Tell the wife that's for sure podcast stairs podcast completely rights almost just just that took proud possession of brand run spanking new proton pack actually which has been made by <hes> a friend of mine the shutout to from the weekend goes. He's made me a real ghostbusters all day. Yeah Yeah said Yeah Photo Talk Looks Lease. What got you to ghostbusters well? I was not as fortunate about yourself. I was born on the ear that ghostbusters cam out. I I was born in Nineteen eighty-four so my experience of ghostbusters actually didn't come from the films it funny enough it came from the animated series came from the real ghostbusters. Yes that was my Qena first experience of and all of that franchise are and delve into a lot more in my my one show but the the me and my I mean experience of ghostbusters watts from the the animated series yeah and it it's Kanus can't sprawl. There was a huge huge thing of the friends that I had a framer school. He was late in the first element of all division whenever I was growing up which was either a ghostbusters firm or a teenage me they deter you sister sure yeah yeah well in fact I was a big bucks. I'm with you on this. One does the the real gaucheness does the T._v.. I love there. Even though I was in liking my fourteen fifteen sixteen pain I watch out of there absolutely love that right. Let me I want you to tell me about this. Your woman play. How did he say you is a big kind of goes the real ghostbusters what made you go MHM? Is there a man play out there for Gospels. How how did you do that to say? Essentially it was it was like comedy of errors but it was it was more like a domino effect a a lot of people recognize myself and a few years ago I did a ghostbuster orientation film and was on Youtube so it was killing like an induction video for for new recruits of that video I saw recently Ryan valid and can oh hey how come not saying this and it was it was pushed by the gospel of Scotland Lynch while the founders from but also associate did say on Youtube video that was at previously applauded by the Book Guide Media Media. That was a Douglas Fender yeah he he was the original version it was done where before <hes> the ghostbusters Scotland were were thing and that was that was in two thousand fourteen. It was uploaded. Yes yes so I watched it recently and then I re posted it on on our facebook page because I thought it was great. Oh you know has many people say not awful a reposted to see to make sure people over more aware of a look at it because I thought it was cracking Lawrence Haitian within special the slime in the beginning gump rule the tools of the trade it was ready to good but also dot Sam that rundown of the films at the beginning. Yes wow really got it. This is great. This could be one the media rather sit down there. Get your obvious checkers. Just one may lose video combat to five minutes rock good hello. I'm welcome let them to your ghostbusters orientation video this video we have perfected an extensive in rigorous training program designed to all your equipments basic functions. If you are watching this it means that you are ready to learn the two of the trade to become a professional ghostbuster or someone has ripped it and put it on Youtube. Your uniform is the backbone of being if you looked together you aren't together nine. If you are together you can bus together. You relief hold should only be used in the direst of situations I eat if you were scared to be on your with unders all basic control of bladder function. Please do not go in your uniform on less you cannot hold it. It does make drake the a bit of an issue the Proton it it is a man says portable hydrant collider which fires highly charged streams of Proton particles which is you to ensnare ghost in order to guide them over a trump now just be wearing for every proton and unfortunately does carry Harry the risk of large property damage so please be very very careful was firing your pack dot Com by here. That's just crazy. Seriously I filed a train. Keep it to a minimum though okay just be careful that monia. Let's do this once. Okay okay for for those who are studying. This approach. Onstream looks like a happy. Did you get head anyway so new recruits basically all the equipment on how to use it and all of us left for me to see is thank. Very much for watching and enjoy it goes busting antiques and remember we're ready to that. Was that was my intention for the video. I need it for a friend of mine. On Australian. Comedian called College Rob Lloyd he was looking into tribute show because obviously in two thousand fourteen was the thirtieth anniversary of ghostbusters on he was doing his own one man show a Australian when he knew me for being ghostbuster found in having having the equipment on the flight suit and everything so he wanted to include me somehow but he didn't want a just a traditional video he wanted something different so I came up with the idea of like a really empowering introduction videos that you get with every job that he do. They thought I would do something along those lines and then as soon as that was done I came to ask what he's doing his own tribute show for this franchise. I do something myself so I wrote my show. which was it still is called still ready to believe you which is a celebration of of a franchise that means a lot to myself a lot to a lot of people and essentially my connection to this franchise however became involved in it a little bit of information about behind the scenes things that people may not know about it a little bit of in a little bit interactive but it's mostly a celebration of franchise that means so much to myself so Kane Kane this <hes> spun off from there was only it was I only intended to do for one night? It was supposed to be just on the nate four celebration or ghostbusters but the people that were there the convinced me to to continue continue with the show when since then I have played the Edinburgh fringe festival I have takes it around several conventions around Scotland and obviously bring on four Astrakan in for twenty twenty so at that there's still a connection to it. My only slave concern is I'll be putting on this show in front of other ghostbuster found on the show is very it's a very personal show but it also contains a lot of information that I'm sure ghostbuster fans already know so. I'm really worried that it's going to be coming across of yet. We know that is just tell us something different that we don't know yeah so that's. I'm a little bit worried about that. <hes> I'll tell you <music>. I'm quite looking for myself. I like these little woman. Shares this guy that he'd won the whole the Star Wars trilogy one hour or something yeah he did it. It's the same gave the comes to Edinburgh fringe any does one month star wars yours than recently. He did one man Lord of the rings which is it's just a lot walk in. I'll take it yet so for me this this'll be rather spanking new and so I'll be sitting there going enjoy what you're gonNA. Put Up and I thought surely somebody is a loaded some kind of video footage of this of your woman show and you'll be happy to know that nobody has filmed any of your show youtube so in this section in this in this section right now would be a video clip of your unfortunately. I can't put one. I don't know whether I should take a compliment or an insult that no as recorded but at the same time it's an insult that nobody was bothered to record it so I don't know how to take as a plus then they were so engaged in it. They just could not get phones out the recording. Let's go out there in that case then. I'm very happy that nobody's record this. I'm very very happy so during this woman exodus bullet for at any rate so trying not to give us any spoilers tweet out. How long does it last in how long is is the show? The show is about forty five to fifty minutes long. It's not it's not an hour because I originally written it for for the Edinburgh fringe so it's about exit about fifty he minutes long it expands mostly my life and how it's connected back to ghostbusters in some way right so it's a it's a very sort of personal story but at the same tame it contains a lot of a lot of stupid jokes folks <hes>. I'm really selling the show it contains a lot of a lot of personal stories. A lot of stupid jokes a lot of behind the scenes stuff about the film franchise and the One thing that I love this show is when I written it. It was a Mike Connection to the show on its thirtieth anniversary but since then I've had to costly updated because of everything that's happened with this amazing franchise I've had updated when the two thousand sixteen film was search. I had to update it when the two hundred sixty film was released on up I've. I've tried to be as truthful as possible in this show. This isn't it's not me looking at this franchise through rose tinted glasses this made telling it how it is these unhealthy truly terrible and horrible backlash cume from the the two thousand sixteen film who negative on nasty the funds were as well and hope that affected me how it affected the franchise and and I tried to put as much about a positive spin on everything that I can but sometimes when stuff like that happens need you can't have to acknowledge the elephants in the bloom unsee. This is what happened. This is terrible uh-huh but at the same time we still got a good Phil America vets who I trained put the positive spin on everything that I can yeah yeah. I found that with the twenty sixteen version of goes out all of a sudden you was not allowed to say this is about Phil because if you shut it was a bad film you'd Al- suddenly be placed in the category of maybe being sexist or racist and I we saw now is just that movie. It's just not good. Movies in my eyes is brexit. It was mistletoe ass- Oh let's not go to the political. The way that I see is like every comedy film out there. It's subject and you may enjoy this film dots create you may hit this film a not so kid but you can't say that something is terrible before you've seen it and because of the elements in the though I personally believe that everybody's into their to their opinion but not to have that opinion you have to experience you. You can't let the Internet tell you what you don't like before you seen anything. I'll have two hundred percent agree on that desk because I would see cinema Emma. I paid my money like everyone else sorts of the cinema because I was good for a really good Phil Janata Mate and yeah me personally I thought the tech in was fantastic now to make a look look the Proton on his blood and now we solved my ready gave him my cellphone. Perhaps over the building for this film because they the student because I think is a small studios fall then the filmmakers volt if you not because the studio marketed as yeah that's what got me because I was thinking aw I would give Cypher prequel a sequel or continuation but no they went down the reboots and I think that's gall people might be fad figured directed. He's at forte in films all sorts over the top comedies with a babe grossness in it because there was some jokes after say some jokes in the reboot that would you not kid-friendly. Yes and I know exactly what jokes you may my son <hes> when I took a was like the talking about I'll tell you when you're saying he aid eight to the time and we're not talking to see it and this is an Emmy Vanita rows it. He's not very good field and I was saying well. Let's go back in Washington originals which we did and I think the thing is <hes> with ghostbusters. It was lightning in a fault for the in time and it's hard to recreate now. It's it's nearly impossible to get a firm that was in the right place at the right time to become a part of the cultural say case that ghostbusters <music> ghostbusters is I think when when I saw the the two thousand sixteen movie I enjoyed it but I wasn't the thoroughly entertained and I try to dissect it and the best description that I could come up for it was the original originalist theme how to really take script that the actors could stick to then improvise around to Alabama from where the Detroit new things yeah this the reboot I felt that it was a very weak script and Kane of forced the actors to improvise and if you look at scenes like the one thing that stick my point is the senior mayor's office where this this joke about the cats out of the bag and they have train the cat back in the bag. I it's one of those type of jokes we feel that that's the Improv coming here to the actors and it just runs a little too long for for the Holy Land Yeah and it's I don't want to see that. I didn't enjoy the film him because I did. There's elements in there that I really enjoyed but overall. I'll take the original over the reboot any day. I'm Paul. It's nothing to do with the actors or the direction Rathan. It just didn't all come together the other four me personally yet and I think in the long run it didn't come together Frolov people because suddenly proved to the studio that when Kazaa as far as I was wed was gonNA guess equal because they did that little bit T- I teased the goes bad now the not the Golden Straight Through Gospel Assistance Very I'm looking forward to this and already you know does concede that slight ripple in the friendship outs have the cast in a lot of over these the original team of course not going to be as the vote that got to be involved in you bought break just the nature of of of the story in the half pass it to a younger audience. Do really thank you g really want to see seventy plus your old Bill Murray Dan Ackroyd and Ernie Hudson strapping on Proton a box. Do you really WanNa see another film without and Howard Ramos in there for me. As much as I love this franchise. I came to feel that it came to needed to go away for a little bit I mean I don't know what Eugenia but I got really really really excited. I think it was back in two thousand nine when the video game came out and Lofa on for me. I still consider that the third film I did a lot of people but that Dan video game no to me. Personally is is very bitter sweet because I love that I get to play the game. I love that I get to play these characters but it's also for me very very personal because it's the very last team that we will here Howard Ramos voice a character that has meant so much to me growing up that is it's a very bitter sweet and I'm going to feel exactly the same way when I see the new film in Twenty Twenty because I know I'm going to see these characters. I'm GonNa hear Parker Juniors theme song and the there's going to be that led the voice in the back of my head saying this should have been done in the nineteenth when Howard Ramos was still alive. Yeah I'm with you on this one each it seems that they still have waited from to the pass away for them to actually start boots into a under the ghostbusters seaweed the franchise was always there. They never acted on it now. I went back into 'em just recently started reading the this like fourteen pages ages of history. Hell bent and I must renouncing this thing bad. There is some that would be changed but it's like a first draft but it ain't bad and then accord big talking about doing eight years. He's and unfortunately the studio just went ready to pull the trigger on it. Yeah I get it was short. It was shortsightedness that they had the first film did wonders then the Second Confirm Chemo. Either wasn't as well received as the first film but then again nothing the could have released would've been as well received as the first one on the studio God very very cold feet on a franchise that really could have kept going. I mean the fans kept going for what were up to the thirty fifth anniversary and founder still talking about it. If Columbia pictures had just a little bit of patients on confidence in Dan Ackroyd and Howard Ramos a a not have related so heavily on Bill Murray being in the film we could have had a franchise that is could have had a long silver screen presence absolutely yeah it's like it's you know with the reboots they did it seem the term will be activated did cameos they seem to be forced into it. Actually scorning. We've is Ri- The end and and even Dan ackroyd and of course Ernie Hudson as well and always always got we about to Yeltsin because all the way down the line of the production of he said no it hasn't got eighty. I'm not interested then he went deady. Quieten and every inevitable. He's yeah which precipitated saying that now although desk I recently saw video Dan Ackroyd and think he was due knees booker. Is it fucker evening yeah yeah yeah and he has lost a Norfolk law way. Not I mean the East purposely down and I said smart to my Banks Yorkshire Division of the Gospels. The upshot sounds very different some nine Paul social close personal splits beautiful and and I said that because he's always been quite he's always been quite heavy ethnic spite yeah but also from south I wonder if he slipped down for site role. Maybe eight those those flights whose only come up to a certain say so yeah I know it he would he would have to come down a little bit if he wanted to get the flight suit back all not proton pack back on the enough to get onto that data and on have no award crystal head vodka smooth crystal clear crystal head vodka crystal had triple her calmer diamond filtered newfoundland deep aquifers pure spirit but just tastes them now that teaser trailer the Sydney pump tall <hes> MHM wet wipe out did you when you first story. When how did you find it? Did you just click on on Youtube will. Did somebody got have you seen this. I think it was I heard the news all the reboot the the sequel I had heard the news of the sequel and then these random but he was calm and we're coming up on the it had the thumbnail of the rear efecto one that the Russell Stover actor two one and I remember seeing that and I'm just thinking okay well. The must be taking us in with something. This must be a fan film that just being shared a road. It was only until I think well actually this. This is a good plug for for myself. It was actually a friend of mine here McFarland Garland who is the CO founder of Ghost Scotland with myself bigshots out the big shedder that in there it was it was actually him he sent me the link and said this is a teaser trailer that was released shortly after the announcement of the third the film and blew me away not only where we getting the the confirmation of the third film not only will we were. We being told that it was being directed by Jason Reitman but that it had this short of thirty thirty to forty second teaser which told you nothing but he gave you exactly what you needed. which was you saw the original actor Onc- not not university you see somebody working at a barn and you hear the sound of the Proton pack boiling? It came ticked. Picked all that astrologer boxes told you everything you wanted to know but nothing that he actually needed to know that sense. Your description is just sent a cold codes. Prefer May ooh God but yeah absolutely I remember. I'm like you are saw thumbnail N._F._l.. It has been appearing log lately Jeremy. The one's been in some commercials and apple all right okay so I clicked on and then Alsace and you know I'm using and then you start in the in the actual look of the fill the look of the teaser told me back and Yeah Oh my God and then of course you know yet that and then the to one and they even twenty twenty one all and I had the original fund as well which I always love little attention devious like that <hes> which is that the US the original font from from ghostbusters woman to on the posters it was not fond of used for the summer twenty twenty which I absolutely adore about these things you can tell the Jason Reitman has definitely got a haze his father keene I in in the director seat. He's going to very beautiful visual aid because if you look over dot short thirty second teaser you can tell the lighting is there that the piecing is there the sound effects and the so they're all perfectly matched with Bernstein's original score it just worked beautifully for everything and I'm very very excited to to see what's what's going to be released and also just as a not sure if listeners the realize I should say the phone with some when he twenty they did that. Protests practical effects similar to the what they did with stretch and things with the with the is commitment so the seemed to be propaganda grab me. I'm almost for practically banks practical facts Ovalles because few look at original spatial lime. Oh how we move not I mean trout. Look so good and even them you know the the Zombie S._C.. Drive off but I I definitely tell the difference between the two phones I mean ghostbusters was what thirty two years old when the when the Puffy 2016 rebirth chemo you want the original and they had a beautiful mixture of practical effects and the temporary C._G._i.. That they had team so you can tell that the terror Hera dogs were Brio that the the goes temple set was real whenever you I don't know if anybody else saw this when you want certain films and I'm not just talking about the the twenty sixteen rebate. I'm on certain firms that they're so show related on C.. J. That AKINA feels more like you're watching a video game causing than an actual film. It came out of it a little bit. You need to get that came to pinpoint perfect yeah Allegri Vian now. Take your when you do this woman state. Show you wear you gave you promises I trade where it is. I've done it a few teams where I have <hes> where I've worn my flight search the very first team did it I ward with the flight to the Proton impact of an halfway through the show. I had to take the Proton Pie golf because you're trained to talk as much as I love my program pack it. Does we metric ton. It's very difficult to do. A talk was wearing a heavy piece of unlicensed nuclear equipment on your back doc conscious paint go off. Yes exactly you have to be very very careful with an unlicensed nuclear accelerator so yeah I I generally trade where the the flight suit because it's another connection to for myself on this front raises another connection for me. Also you also told me that you're one of the founders of goes yes Scotland. Now I've been talking to the lights from the Ghost was Glasgow and there's also a heck of Edinburgh as well. This is all that he got law. Franchises admits yeah it came of it came to spout off from Austin be completely to be completely honest when when I was going around conventions nations in my ghost uniform I came there. was nobody else there. There was no franchises like there was in America. The only one closest to myself or I thought on the tape was U._k.. Ghostbusters so I wanted wants to do something like that but for Scotland where where I live so myself on another ghost head cure McFarland we decided to set up the ghostbusters of Edinburgh and then we've had the as you mentioned ghostbusters Glasgow at the Gospel of Edinburgh ghostbusters of Aberdeen. They've all came to join us in the all start at their own franchises as well which is brilliant cut it may if it came unites us all in in this Eh passion and we came to spread it a little bit because I'm based in that Br cure my friend. He's he's just miles and miles rain in another part of Scotland so we didn't want to call you know the ghostbuster that growth we thought if we'd include all of Scotland it covers all of our basis and then we have these separate front chases coming out but we're all still were good friends. We we meet up at conventions. We organize things like Ghostbuster ed like an extra twenty twenty so there's there's a lot of camaraderie and between this which is lovely to see which is Brent yeah. There's been a lot of good feedback for <hes> Echo on twenty twenty because you've got the big thing that's in the states at next year avenue yes thirty I found fascinating to one of because I thought I'd love to go to that. You know their tickets quite price and they have Ext.. I mean don't get me wrong. I don't want to say this but D.. R. extortionately ridiculously heedlessly price in the that would only include people in America that doesn't include like found over here. They'll have to get flights and accommodation and things like that that words it may be a once in a lifetime opportunity but I don't think the the third mortgage on the House that I grew up in would be totally worth that yeah agree on this when it was announced that echo comb twenty twenty was going to be in Glasgow have been glass for on awful on time and sippy crates. If all the different franchises could put their differences aside and just an all just ten opener be one massive save ghostbusters convention Makita Imagine how many Proton impacts the be that that's that's what we're aiming forward. This is not <hes> an event where the lines every franchise chase. That's that's appear in in Scotland. The one thing that we can't is that we don't want to be can snobby. We don't determine that I use quite loss but I don't like using it as screen accurate I I don't. I don't like using that term of well. It's not one hundred screen accurate. It doesn't matter whether you can afford you know screen accurate props or or flights equipment race I when I was growing up I used to watch my copy ghostbusters to on V._H._S. and I used to come home from school and they used to get my sister's curling tongs and I would tuck the cable of that into my school into my school by that was my proton pocket doesn't no matter what anybody says it's don was my mom pack yeah if a child comes up and and they have the exact same thing this that's approach on. Are you going to be that gay that Says No. That's not screened accurate in any way shape or form no to that child is a proton impact so what we want what we wanted for the for extra call was that you can have screen accurate flight search or you could just have a t shirt got a love for this franchise. Everybody is welcome to this event. We're going to train MIC. This is the the most entertaining event that goes to the you can get to its. We're trying to get as many funds together as many franchises together. We're working on several guests. Try and bring the obviously we're not going to be able to afford bill. Marine Dan ackroyd bought what we're going to get as many of the anybody and everybody that's been attached to this franchise. We're going to get them to Glasgow so you can all come down and have a wonderful team dot as always been army and goal when we set up extra called kid comes running updated as Ryan says goes can have you photo cannot perfect taking me right you swear in Kabul balls with that in there is Dave matter goes exactly exactly you can't take got away and that that's the magic of the franchise. I think anybody that wants to go higher than than not think that higher than that table Stato now what I mean if if that's the way he won't be stayed at all this half full move all toys because I know about wherever about toys and the end of the day we're not the father I we are here for for fun teams. I've wanted to vote on taxes. I was four years old. I know owner Proton Pack. I wear as often as I count any event ice. It's it's not mostly the children that I get response to. It's the parents 'cause they. They were the people that grew up with them like I did. So you see a little kid. Run up naked get very excited and then you have the father. Come up with all my God you can. I see your vote on pipe can I can. I hold the gun on you know. Am I going to be the table. Gay just goes M.. F. N.. Is called neutral warned or positron collider. You clearly knew the film's I I don't know why chose to do the voice of Simpson while I went for ever. Put you know what does those I'd also. It's like Oh cadaver. Look at I can. I yeah that then going home guide the I could buy one now. I think I probably have been of Kent 'cause that's where I got my program. <hes> my promo pack from every time somebody asked me where I got the for my always say Benepe candies on facebook has a very reasonable. He'll never steal your own. I probably think of more than anybody else in the whole thing and flying soundboard the walkie talkie is is is quite a piece of equipment. I've had a chance to to be a few tables with Fraser. I've seen that walkie-talkie. It's it's it's so simple and yet it works so beautifully as well. It's it's it's just a very clever piece of <hes> of equipment. I I would probably say that if if you have the money and the time I want to build the because I got the better can shell on it. It Kim in flint packed in a box and I putted altogether myself so it made me feel a lot like well like Dr Spangler putting this equipment together. If you have the team in the patience in the money I could not recommend ben of Kent props for protein packs for for the power goes for the go stop. If you want something not as late comfortable ready to use not too expensive blamed wolf is incredible the stuff that he mix. It's it's it looks amazing. It sounds amazing. It's mercifully light dot much. I can see a very ever shown equipment is that it's it's very con- worthy cause wonderfully late for sturdy ready as well as his stuff is incredible as well so it's it's all about your own personal preferences and how much time and money that you have yeah I definitely right that's right. It's been absolutely fantastic. Talk Oh conc- and totally enjoyed it's been it's been a good good. Our phone plus man skype was proper against this was it was it came to work there. Maybe there was a ghost in the system <hes> looking at <music> but so people want to gang Kandhamal see you'll still find you on the old into weapon. Well I do have my own personal and facebook which Desert Gorman but if I'm being completely honest I I already used that for for friends and things so please if I don't really know you. Don't send me your friend request. I'm probably not going to accept it. I'm sorry people that's just the cane of dude that I am however you can find me on the gospel of Scotland <hes> you can find us on facebook. She can ask us. All of your supernatural. Elimination needs are are requested there. If you want to know about me personally you can find me on Facebook Desert Gorman con host <hes> if you just search dead's con host on Facebook <hes> you should be able to see me because I host <hes> why do an panel hosting and cosby hosting at conventions all over Scotland down the so if you want to know more about me they're finally spooked semi <hes> question I will be more than happy to talk to any and everybody is so cool well. He's been an absolute pleasure as route to speak to. You and I can't wait like I said to get over. Take Toko on twenty twenty so thank you for coming on and I will see you again. Thank you very much for having me on board Jimmy. I'm looking forward to senior ASTRAKAN twenty twenty and hopefully see a lot more of your funds as well. 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Episode 1108 - Dan Aykroyd

"Doc All right. Let's do this. How are you what the fuck? What the fuck buddies what the fucks tres. What's happening how's it going yard is my tone to Chipper for the Pandemic situation how. How are you taking it? How's everything with you? Our Kids House. How are you holding up? Are you surprised that supplies okay like just a little bit of a hello to the people that are by themselves again? I hope you're doing okay. I know there's some people that are trying to stay sober out there. And they're getting into the online meetings. I guess on the zoom APP which I need to get stay in touch with people through this friends family. Check in as much as possible. There's no reason now not to texter call or facetime or skype. Resume Your Mom. Your Dad your close friends. It's important when there's a lack of ability to to sort of touch and hug and and socialize to to do it. Somehow it's important for people to listen to people to talk to people to feel like they're part of people thing. If you don't do that people start to lose their fucking minds and certainly if you're putting the wrong shit into your brains while you're isolated. You're going to lose your fucking mind. I mean it happened to about thirty five percent of this population for different reasons but isolation is something that was existed before this there are a lot of people who are most of us are isolated in terms of how we live our lives in a way or else our worlds are fairly small. I mean there are people that have always worked from home. They're people that didn't have jobs to begin with. Who are who are shut. Ins In at home. They're people that didn't even need to buy food because it stocked up on chips and soda and they're still. They're locked in a room your viewing garbage online. That was before. This is a real problem. I think it's it's one of the issues. What that that. So many people that we know and even people that we think might be intelligent. Can't quite wrap their brain around what's happening but it's happening. I mean I'm guilty of it man. I mean I'm not out in the world pretending like nothing's wrong but I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around the real destruction and pain and death and everything else and the lack of supplies and the hardship said that people are going because of this thing because I'm sitting in my house I'm alone. You know I read stuff. I got an email last week from that woman in Italy. But there's all of this with these sort of isolated insulated lives even in in when there's no pandemic and just to have a consciousness of this thing and you know I'm not being sort of. It's not apocalypse thinking it's not overreacting. But it's we're we're in it man and I can't be too glib about it but who've I just I just hope people are taking care of themselves and more importantly reaching out to people anyway. They can that that have been in their lives just to throw a line. Connect say hello and then. I'm going online doing stuff young playing my guitar on Instagram Young. I'm trying to not even have a life. I mean there's a lot of what's happening now. That used to be the way I lived. You know as young comic. You just sit around right and think all day and play guitar in NAP and Cook Food. And I guess the point of this is I talked to my buddy Dave. And he was freaking out he was in a rabbit hole of You know symptoms and Statistics and who gets what and what. What are the outcome? It's bad but you can't just sit there and defeat yourself do what you can do in the moment that you can do it for yourself and the people around you and don't make it worse than it already is just understand the reality understand your partner your place in the world and tried to live your life and and be ready to be helpful to run a write where though Where do you run from the bug? Dan ackroyd is on the show today. And he's like one of those anyone these guys about you know about the aliens the aliens here. Corona virus these renegades strands of our neighbor who will confer partner to Helix with ourselves there just a day. Not Full bodies. They're just they just need to be full bodies but they can only do it with ourselves. Virus virus also sometimes the the foundation of some relationships. I'm not a whole person until I glommed onto you and use you to be a full person to replicate myself and leave you a drained. Husk dark dark right. Look folks hiring is challenging even under the best circumstances but it doesn't matter if you're up and running like normal or you're operating your business from home right now the challenges of hiring a really big. That's why there's a place you can go where hiring a simple fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. 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I re read the order from the L. A. Public Health Department about what is and what isn't essential businesses in in the media. Realm podcasts are okay sanctioned essential so we do have some episodes Some interviews in the can which will keep using and I. I think I've got one or two interviews setup for the near future but I can't offer a fairly safe space just me and I'm healthy and I will sit six feet away from you and I will. I have spray and wipes so if you come by yourself. We're good we're golden so we'll see what happens if not if people aren't gonNA COME. We'll figure out another way will figure out another way but panic so I had some panic. I've everyone's having panicked. We have it. We have it and just a carrier do. I haven't in. It's not going is not showing. What the testing. I don't have exact information on on how they're prioritizing. Napa seems to be people who have been around people who have confirmed it. I don't know I just know. There's not enough of them so little chaotic and it's hard to stay isolated but one at check. What if you need to go the doctor? I know but I've had panic. I've woken up like wise. My chest fucked up. Why DO I? Why is my chest heavy? Why can't I breathe right and then I realized Oh. That's what happens when I panic but I also realized as some you know or remember when we had a sponsor here that every well did Food sensitivity thing and it happened to be all the foods. I was eating at that time like I have a high sensitivity egg whites have moderate sensitivity to almonds and yogurt and Kale and cashews. I call the healthy eating IOT sensitivity to and write a week or so ago when this all started going down you know stockpiling storing food. I was like fuck it man. I'm not really allergic to anything though. Sensitivities were bullshit. I'm going to get you can get almonds. Are Going to get cashews and sure enough for the last week. I've had tightness in my chest. And guess what's a symptom of allergies? Yup got no fever. Got No other symptoms and I didn't eat Almonds or any of them yesterday and it feels better and I've been hiking and but It is where I feel stress as well. You can manifest symptoms with your brain. If you commit with panic and fear and your brain do you know you can focus and manifest almost all symptoms? So don't fuck your head like that. All right try to relax. I've been writing a bit actually not so much. I've been cooking a lot and I've been watching some movies. I haven't seen catching up on series watch cassidy's movie last night playing guitar spending time with my cats In talking to you and doing shit around the house and hoping for the best but I. It's definitely scary. Time definitely a scary time and I had this thing happened in. It's been happening and I need to fuck in put it out there and I don't even know if I can explain it properly to be honest with you because it makes me nervous. I don't know what it is or what to do about it okay. I'm going to try to lay it out because I tried to talk about it on Tom. Sharp wing came over and did a an episode of the best show in my driveway where he threw a cord out his window and hooked up one of my Mike's and Lynn Shelton and myself me inland Shelton. However the proper way to say that in Shelton and I I don't know Stood outside his car and did an episode of that and I tried to communicate exactly what I was feeling. to describe this phenomenon that's happening to me has to do with my phone. And my brain okay. First off I guess so I have any of you had a genuine out of body experience Near out of body experience where he may not have gotten far and you may not have gotten all the way out but you just all of a sudden you have this strange consciousness of your body as something other than you. I guess as to way to put it like that you you kind of like your brain sort of has a consciousness of the fact that it's just housed in this thing that moves and that's the sort of feeling you know. Obviously the brain is in charge of the thing but there is because the self is housed in the brain or somewhere like that. This self is sort of like wow. I think I'm just GONNA cut loose here. Do you know that feeling where yourself tries to cut loose from the body from the vessel or get a will distance from it even almost leaves when my point is that? That's the feeling I'm getting sometimes when I look at my phone too much if I'm just in my phone out. All of a sudden realised like this like that. My Body is separate than me. I my brain itself is connected with the phone and somehow my hand is holding it. But I've got nothing to do with that. Does that make sense? It's happening a lot. There's a sort of disassociation to it. And it's creeping me out. It's sort of like this. It's happening to me personally. Can anyone do that? Making Sense Shabby concerned. This is no time to go to the doctor to try to explain that phenomenon that I just tried to explain to you now. Is it no all right? We'll look Dan ackroyd He's he's always promoting his crystal head vodka line. He's also back as race. Dance in the upcoming ghostbusters afterlife. But he was one of the guys. He's one of the original guys. He's one of the original. Snl guys and and this is me talking to him role. You're here. Yeah let's do it. Well let me know because I can formerly Let me say acknowledge. Yeah sure we're on. I love your location here in Culver City Thanks for sending the Golf Cart. You know I'm just across the road here Sony at Ghost Co. Yeah the Ivan Reitman administered ghost and So was great to be so close to the studio and get over here that way. Thanks took the tunnel From the old Sony Columbia Tunnel. The one. That Harry What was his name? Mayor Mayor sure and we took the goal. We try to make it convenient convenient for awhile so great. I loved it and then you come here. And it's the old film Tower Culver City so we went up the elevator and here. We've got a beautiful view of the city and What a spot. He has a great. Yeah Yeah you're the first to actually admit where we were and I tried to keep it a secret and I appreciate sorry I knew this. Notice satellite to your relocation which incidentally folks I couldn't get to because Mark Down you know four to see me and I was going to go up but you are in missile silo. That's right I think it's North Dakota that's right. This is I come out here to interview people and they let me use. This is the only location I'll use might love the missile silo. I'm you know my brother and I were sorry. Yeah there's no missile in it but no but has the whole The other that the two you know it's nice down there you know. We just got refrigeration working on on a steady basis battery-run initially. Yeah this is where some of us have to be in the world. If we're talking about things that matter it's great to be with you gotta papers they come prepared you. You broke it down. We got on the papers. Let's talk well. First of all he planned more than me. You're a great interviewer and You know you interviewed Terry. Gross and I did just buy just kind of curious because she got me to reveal secrets about myself you know if she has voiced really she did. Yeah you know like you know that I eat worms or whatever. I don't eat fried worms. Well I don't know what I revealed but she she really gets you to talk about yourself and then your introspective. You forget she's there see not. They're unbelievable she's she's usually Satellites you. You didn't sit with her. Did you know you got your I put the Hypno- coin actually and if US NPR comforted by her her presence in your head. Yeah Yeah So. It's like it's happening. Did she come into the studio? No I in our did a weird Not a weird gig. It was when she we did a live Gig and she chose me. She said she would do this. Radio It was a radio benefit I think show and she said if I interviewed her she would do it so it was actually live in front of about two thousand people that we did it. You owe me so it was tricky. You know tricky. Because she's not really that type of show person. Yeah and it's sort of keep a candidate and figure out a way in your bed at that point. That was several years ago and I think it's still kind of like that. People know very little about her. So you could find a way you know. There was gaps in the new amount of information that was available. That would sort of like what happens as you know what I mean. Yeah she's buttoned up. You know But you know he's up on the radio but she's a master broadcaster and she's great and you. You seem to that your life. Is You have a sort of weird deep respect for broadcasters well As a veteran of twenty six years of House of Blues Radio Hour and my persona as elwood blues forgive me for the cheap Chicago accent shirt. I'm an adopted son of that city. Sure I can do it from. Yeah of course So ellwood was on there and the radio we had the house of Blues or something about it must have planted the seed or wired you that way you know. My Dad gave my. He's and he was ninety. Eight yesterday congratulated old engineer. There and I used to watch the black and white television. Yeah so my dad. One day took the chopped off the top of a hockey stick and he. He took a black Electrical tape and he made it into a microphone. He put a little cord. They're made it into a toy microphone and gave it to me and I started imitate announcers and that it did. Yeah you're the season. I love the voices. I loved All the impressionists that were on those shows Elvin Ir Many people will remember this next gentleman. Who's on the show sell any kind of course tonight way Schuster? You know he was. He was a Gossip columnist close to Nixon Well out here and I could say some profanities when I'm not here to hear Mr Presley so good to have you on the White House today regiment. Human Elvis met. But it's just great that you're going to help the drug effort tab tonight beverages year all the flying. Orlando's it was you know he was. He was gossip columnist. And there's a famous movie out called sweet smell of success yet. Only Curtis right and Jj who played by. Burt Lancaster with the Ed Sullivan was the was the basis for that Carolinian. I thought it was the other guy. Walter Wind Shelter Wind. Chill Walter Winchell. Both of them kind of they're really. They were kind of muckraking gossip scandal guys but they pro parlayed their careers. Wind chill into a columnist of course very influential. And then Ed Sullivan Variety. Show House now when wind chills. Memorabilia sold yet. No one bought it. I was at your. Did you know that I had no idea? His hat has typewriters pencil and gave a shit. No Walton windchills. No employers say about a tabloid reporters. Life I mean was garbage in the show had its spectacular voice. You'll remember it from I. Nine hundred seventy two eliot ness has untouchables raided. A warehouse on the north side of Chicago. Frank today was you know. Yeah AH MR newness of course stock but when you grew up in Toronto I was born in Ottawa Canada. Yeah and I am a Canadian through and and the Canadian I am. I was born on July first Canada. Yeah that's the Independence Day of candidate. When we became a dominion of the crown. I was born Grandson of Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Staff Sergeant 'cause you know one was French. I knew very well and my mother was French. Canadian and my dad was a high Anglican Englishman and so He wasn't from Canada he was he was from. He was from Toronto WASPS THE FRENCH CATHOLIC Walk Right Marriage French Catholic. Mary's Awad Catholic though. I was raised Catholic. My Dad converted for my mom's family. Oh my God yeah he was out I was out my dad's baptism their him kneeling there and and and also confirmation ships. Larry. Yeah we're investment member wasn't weird moment. Bishop slaps even grown up confirmation. Yes yeah you get the Wok? You know really bishop and as a little kid you get the whack from the Bishop really. Oh yeah and that's sort of like welcome. Well yes because you know you're being now the Holy Ghost is visiting you when you come back wack all right some see the Holy Ghost you as I do today. I see the flame every day every day every day. I see the flame but my dad was a very interesting man was an old kind of track engineer. Road engineer with an engineer what he built highways okay. He built highways out in the world with the The navigator yes he was. We blew the top off a granite mountain and I watched him do that as a kid. A great upbringing. So I'm very canadian-born auto capital cities grandson of French. Canadian mother Anglican Wasp far brother. Peter Very funny you'll know him out there in the world as the Javale Junkies. Remember that clip from SNL. Yeah remember that Clinton Performance. Agai drinking coffee by Tom. Schiller Schiller is sure still around. I believe so. He's director Does all kinds of stuff in commercials and short films. He was so brilliant. My brother's Javid Junkie. I'm Canadian I was born anti Catholic thing like like how like how religious were. You brought up pretty strict. Love say. I went back as far as being an altar boy that yeah get up at seven and eight years old. I was getting on a bicycle and bicycling to the church. Yup and serving mass and then I went into I was actually Hoddle Wink Hod Winkle de go into a seminary when do I was I attended Saint Pious the tenth minor preparatory seminary for boys In Ottawa. And we thinking about doing well. I'll the interview was very interesting. We were the father money a great a priest in your mentor and my mom and dad were sitting there with me and other looney looks at me and my dad. Mom wanted me to go to this Catholic school. Yeah go to the Public School and he says Dan so you are here. You're considering a vocation here you'd like to join us in our calling and I my. Here's my response from my parents. When I see my mom wants me to go to the school and my dad would relieve him because it was on the way to work. He dropped me off all. Yeah yes so. You'd like to be a priest. Oh Wow so. We did three years of that and it was a good upbringing and I learned a lot and there were some terrific people there at that school sent between fifty eight and seventy eight saint pious had all boys. They're and they're five thousand one through their guests. How many became priests to five thousand? Four hundred two two people to people so it was just the school is just as well it was it was an experience you know. I so I was pretty. You Know Pretty Catholic. You believe believe in I believe in the cosmic engineer. I believe I didn't buy a lot of the WHO G Buji but I think that the words of the Christ and the lesson. Who's you know could be your? There's some who g Buji going along of who she bucci. I think my question though when I was thinking about you coming over was that I realized that if you have the foundation of believing the ability to suspend your disbelief and believe in God and any point in time in your life it kind of makes you vulnerable to believe in just about fucking anything. Well here's the thing people do believe in anything. Catholics believe in the Virgin Mary. The Mormons believe in the Angel Moroni and the golden plates in the magic spectacles the scientists andrew where they believe him yes and they believe Scientology believe in Zanu the Super God and you know the hint the in the religion. There's a belief Vishnu. So what my approach to it now is. Okay believe yeah you want. I am not here to question what you believe. If you believe that there was a zinger up in the sky that hit the Virgin Mary and caused Christ into the world. And I say I I'M A fan of Christ I'm Young Zinger. Zinger was true. Then you believe in that fine I. It's it's up to people to have their own beliefs and not for me to question and and really not for me to be questioned on my belief as a spiritualist. I'm spiritualist is old. That's an old title spiritual wealth comes from basically. The eighteen hundred sophy was at a Boulevard. Ski Thing that was. Yeah definitely was a part of that. Yeah absolutely it's more of A. It's a belief that not only does the energy of the sole surviving the consciousness survives after surrounded via many conscious. I think so. I think there was an old I got You my dad's book here. History of ghosts was sort of interesting to me that you come from this. It's decades centuries of it is Since really my great grandfather Sam was a dentist and he started exploring the stuff in the twenty s and the book here talks about a guy named Arthur findlay and he was a medium in England and he was very good at it. He brought channel for many. Many entities needs to theater and to be sitting in the theater. Just try to watch a movie and then all these voices would come from where he'd been channeling and the people around would go up. Shut up man. He brought the entities with him. Very funny I've here sitting with you for ten minutes. And I've I've heard at least a dozen entities invest one as July nineteen thousand. Two Eliot send has untouchables. Recall rock the best. One is Robert Stock though the recovering unsolved mysteries a man walks done at each a pebble. Hops up Who's inside up channeling? I love now. We've lost a great man in Hollywood. Recently Kirk Douglas. Yes hundred and three too young too young bogged my dad's ninety eight and he goes to me no more no more burqa and I Shared a movie set. I was honored to have made a film of John. Asher directed it. Yeah John Ashes kind of Hollywood royalty himself his mother was Elizabeth. Montgomery father was a producer and writer and John. Directed this This this film. What was it and we know. Diamonds and Kirk played. It was about the sunset sundown syndrome and Alzheimer's and I had I played a son his son who had. Yeah put them in a home eventually. this is seen in there. Where the where he insists on driving you know no. He's in his mid nineties and all the rest he goes. He sits in this car. And I'M GONNA drive the scene and he he was very was and he great stunt driver. Oh really oh yeah. I'm purpose. I wasn't scared at all. I wasn't scared about but what a pleasure elected and had my dad came on the set to at the time so to have the two of them five years apart you know get done exactly exactly right now so okay but the spiritualism and the channeling and and also the idea that we don't question other beliefs but you would question others beliefs if they had in dangerous intent or violent intent Sure of course of course absolutely absolutely I mean and Boy There's enough malevolence in the world that we should be questioning what's going on. Have you read this book the Uninhabitable Planet? Now that I feel it coming I how much do I need to know? But in our time it was the bomb shelter with me. I mean I'm a little older. You know I remember when I was in primary school and I'm sitting there and put this in the blues brothers. By the way they they showed up one day and they they put up an air raid. Siren ran a poll right there. Yeah yeah that was the one that was on the top of the funny thing is retro. Worrying in retrospect they would've not been helpful at all really no no because by the time at ICBM wherever it would be done. And I'm going to the horror of that the nuclear horn who know and so that was what we were living under and then there was polio. You know with the New York just a at least a human element to it in terms of like someone's GonNa push a button and with this environmental thing. It's sort of like I think the buttons already been pushed and no one's GonNa take your finger off so real. Yeah I mean this guy saying we reached close to two point eight degrees and we're GONNA see planetary rises of ten fifteen feet and places and so I think you know the real estate industry should be really on born. Yeah Yeah She Miami New York. They're talking about this seawall New York. They've got US figured out in Rotterdam Beachfront beat trump property Nevada. Thirty Second Street. Yeah so so. You're in Canada. You're not going to be a priest. Your Wendy. You start getting involved when the comedy. Well all away. How about a great ten nine ten eleven glass insurance or another guy? Then I'll know that was bad and then then I did place and I did Sketches and stuff in in in high school. Yeah High School and College. I was in a Performing Group and was You know one of the minor player group was at it was a Carlton University. Which is a very good university in Ottawa. Fellas that was in the group with you now. I haven't seen them. They went on to great careers. Isn't it directors and and I know many good actresses their went onto great careers in Stratford. Shakespeare up in Kano kidding because I would just. I didn't realize I was recently shooting a movie in Hamilton Oh I love down the hammer man. Wow great people there. When was the last time you've been up yet incident infrastructure? You Know No. It's but I didn't really see a thriving something seen trying to come back around and I was there. Well there's a pretty big film. Industry Spread Your candidate Gordon. Hamilton's made itself available for for those who steal work. No no I was playing a record in our guy a PR might be very interested about It's about David Bowie's first trip to the states. Oh Neat Oh yeah. It should be interesting. Small movies plays Bowie. Bowie played by this guy. Johnny Flynn who is off your English Long stor I recently played Jerry. Wexler in are you kidding Jerry? Of course because he was when we were Atlantic with blues brother's new dominant necessarily and they were all alive. The I'm good. I know well Dan. Jerry was more like this right. Jerry talk like this great. Wow so that's fun man playing parts like that I played. I think I played James Brown's manager and got up. Oh Yeah I remember I remember. That's right you were Kinda. Yeah but the reason I brought up Hamilton as I had no idea that it was such a big comedy. Sorta source. I mean didn't Ivan go to Ivan Marty Short. They all come from Marty. Short Mardi shorts brothers great writer of course and And Ivan Reitman. Yeah Yeah and I had no idea when I was there I was sort of like this place is falling apart but then people are like. It's got an amazing. He's Gaza does well. It's the university is very strong there. And I didn't know I went to Carlton but I like I like the hammer because you know I love that technology and technology to look cinematic. Also tomorrow. There's a have you been there. I performed out there at It's a place called the steelworks in Pennsylvania which was valium Bethlehem into a mall. It's actually an art space. Yep Yeah like and you perform and it'd behind the the stage it's all windows and there's dead steelworks dare furnaces. They light them up. That's right they were. Of course. Those were Carney Carnegie's furnaces and in Phipps in those guys so you're fascinated with technology. I'm well I'm also fascinated with the industrial revolution. Just you know how fast it's gone from coal and coke and rail steal your action like teen eighty two now. Yeah how fast? We've heated up the planet and I think that's what that's what fascinates me is. He hasn't either the speed of innovation. And it's it's so exciting that we have other nostalgics who are currently in power. That seemed to think that Cole is a good idea again. Well you know there is a way to do. It was to do it as you've got to have a scrubber on there that just eats up all of your prophet so you're you're you're providing energy to the consumer and you're burning coal to do it but there's no profit in it you've spent it all on your scrubbers now if there's a company that's doing call out there willing to do that to go out there and spend all of the money so that it's clean still in business for the consumer but any profit that's out of goes to keeping the scrubbers going. I think it could be feasible. Because a lot of countries need power and in nuclear power scares me. I Well. I'm not I'm mixed on it. Germany has removed all of the nuclear plant. We've got but we have a leading environmental cause advocate. Bobby Kennedy Junior. Saying you know nuclear. Maybe a choice. We do have it in Canada. We've never had an accident. Three Mile Island was An interesting occurrence than Fukushima pretty bad. Chernobyl cows dying and from. Ben Has watched his show. Did you watch this series? What beautiful piece of television wasn't everybody was just beautiful? I love that so of that was so great. So you're doing so. When do you meet Lorne Liking Canada? I saw you yeah. You interviewed interviewed him. Well in one thousand nine hundred two days with Lorne. Yeah did you. Gala Pretty Fascinating. One of the. Probably the greatest Impresario of our time. He something Michaels College University of Toronto. Lauren I was I went and Went to the CBC with a with a friend of mine partner Valerie Bromfield and we went together. We had some written material as a team and we got a cable show one in Ottawa. It's my belief that person if you stay in Canada eventually get a show. I have a government bonds. We're looking for a government-sponsored show. We showed him our. We gotTA show called change for a quarter. It was fifteen minutes of comedy. We brought the tape in. It had a handle on. It was full inch wide videotape like the size of a full wounded. That's how big the so we brought that in and showed it to a few executives and they said Mall you know. It's not really are kind of thing here on this floor downstairs. There are a couple of guys putting together a new comedy being and it's new people and it's young Lorne Michaels and Hart pomerantz. So we got an interview. Yeah Lauren hired Valerie and I for a summer TV special called the Great Canadian humor tests so in nineteen sixty nine. I was not still. I still wasn't out of college I was still at Carlton. He hired me that summer to play. Old Men basically yeah. I don't think I in one character was over. You know under forty and so. What was your impression of him. Like immediately loved them immediately. They're really into the width of fun. The sense of being guided by a true mentor with massive knowledge of you know the TV comedies of the fifty. Oh yeah of the of yeah and the catskills and what was. Your heart was funny. He was a lawyer he was funny and Lauren had shoulder length hair and his about a mustache and heart was and they did a key. An Act together in one of their components was the great Canadian Humor Test. Right and Valerie and I were on there. So that's when I met him then a couple of years later I'd been at second city and I SECOND CITY. I was at second city in Toronto. Seventy seventy one seventy two who is crew Radnor yeah Candy Yeah O'hara Yeah Levy. Yeah Jerry Salzburg was brilliant Rosemary Radcliffe Martin. Short was in around there with the God spell kids and Kan City in God's spell kids and so it's from God spelled kind of migrated over second city and that was the first production of God spelled fame. Yeah Yeah that's why I now. When I met those kids I was driving a mail truck and and I was on the radio at City TV with Lauren. Got Me that job as well. He did but you weren't working for him Not Not not at that point on the radio. I was shot box announcer. You know doing fast. fast rap kind of announcing at the party. Your blood it was. I worked for Moses NIGHMARE AT CITY TV. I was a game show announcer and I'm a commercial sixty nine Seventy seventy one. And then I drove across country. Seventy two in my slush six Chevy Biscayne Mia and we drove from Toronto New Orleans to Tijuana who My friend John Device. Yeah the artist to Design all the ghostbusters stuff. Oh yeah yeah still around. He's still around. The Viking is good. We drove across and we stopped in L. A. And Lauren put us up in a suite at the Chateau Marmon writing for early. Tomlin and and Yeah and laughing and he said Dan I'm going to. I'm going to reinvent the live television of these. If he puts you at the Chateau he put me up in his room and profits and we were there at John and Ninety S. He wanted to do a colgate comedy hour. And the Sid Caesar Show and he was able he was going to recreate it in New York on stage where they did it and he was going to do live and he was real smart he when they offered him a pile yet. No no I want to do seven and he said you were in no not exactly now that he said I want you know you just telling me about the concept and I'll sort of I'll call you then I did. I did have to audition a couple of times. I was not accepted right away. I did have to even though I knew him and I had a history I think. Part of the problem was that Belushi and I had met and we'd already formed like the Blues Brothers and your ideas. We met at my five. Oh five club that little speakeasy. I had had a speakeasy. I had an after hours club in Toronto Vice. Five while you were driving. The truck The second city time that he came over to the second city to rate us for to raid Doug yield for Lampoon and I met him that night and we'd clue John John Belushi we'd cooked up. Yep We've picked up the blues brothers by the time we got to our Saturday night. Live edition not too much. He was born heavy metal but he was from Chicago each towards had been all all the great places at our heard all the great artists. But he's more into heavy metal hard rock at that time I and grandson funk and he loved the grand funk cream and all that but so lauren was afraid that we we'd met we already have the blues brother's concocted didn't WanNa Cabal. Lauren looked at the two of US and said Oh. That's our base. That might be trouble now. Do you guys like when you like. I going back with the Viking when you drove through the trouble. Of course you menstrual grey hairs on Lawrence head are probably single handedly costs on my accurate. Maybe its shape. I mean he's still causes. Grey hairs for people but So when you go across country go to New Orleans and stuff you stopping industry music and you part of the journey or jazz fast Iraq and do psy man love it right Clifton. Chenier Borak SOM- many times. Many times you tip a Tina's club. Yeah I love it right love. You've been in New Orleans. I've been there haven't done the music thing. Oh Yeah so you John. Was It love at first sight? Or how does that work? That's it pretty. Yeah you walked in the back door. It was a blizzard night. It was the February night. You know we were doing the set second city and we were backstage there on. The door flew open which directed which directly Access the alley there and it was a step above the little bit where we were working in with our costumes and and John appeared opened the door. And there was a silhouette there. He had like a hexagonal drivers cap on and he had a white cable knit sweater and a white scarf and a pack of cigarettes but gone and you know sneakers totally under dress for Canada. Yeah and he came in and of course was skinny and they needed this heat of the sad. I think he hit the wall for us up that night and everything he got on stage and did the really out. Yeah he hit the wall for saying that was his famous thing of coming from running from the front of the stage hitting the wall and then while everybody did it everybody did. That was a bit a bit. Yeah Tino insanity that I mean many people who who were there like in your recollection of second city at that time who were like the improvisers that you just everybody was holy Shit. Oh well Murray Yeah. Yeah. Murray and Flaherty Joe Flaherty Ryan Murray. You Know Yeah Brian. Bill's brother very fun. Was it about bill. Because he doesn't like the danger danger danger man. You know voltage Americaine. While you never knew what was coming next it could be verbal. It could be physical. It go who just beautiful beautiful. Excitement and candy was lovely. Yeah lovely improviser because he was so full of so much heart and soul and while Dr Tung you know and and then in Tino insider has beautiful Friend and partner. You know those were great times. Great strong women to yeah the GILDA and Yasushi Rosemary Radcliffe Hera Canada. Yeah and Betty Thomas onto director. Because you're a wreck scene Broadway Thomas. Yeah Yeah and that was quite the crew did you were you involved in the land. Poon hours well I you know what I guessed it on a record. Yeah produced by Chris. Guest. I played drums and I think it was at the lemmings record. I think it was no as another but you see. That's why John come up to Toronto and he did succeed in getting the elder to go back down to New York to work on work and we'll work on lampoon radio and their records in that but I didn't WANNA leave Toronto. I had a good racket going man. Five Oh five speakeasy. Well everything closes at one o'clock and at the time. Where's The streetcar driver or a cop or a waiter a waitress? Is there somebody off duty? We're going to get a drink well. We supplied that for them. When we left there was a wall high That was just a wall of bottles. That went up seven eight feet so you just an all cash business. We did that. We did that and then Then I had second city and had a radio business with Dave Thomas from. I didn't WANNA go. I'd Radio Commercial Business. Yeah if Thomas. I was at second city on a at afternoon. Sitcom for kids called coming up Rosie and had the speakeasy. I'd always little to the puzzles going. I didn't WANNA move. I radio I was set up. Yeah you had a radio AD visits. Who was radio is okay so companies will come to you and go on strike. Yeah Right. It's a thirty riders to sixty For Canada you're doing great doing great. I was making more than the prime minister. May One year you know. How would we twenty to twenty one Right about that. Yeah and so what? What eventually gets you go to New York? Snl final the final offer Hokkien. You're in so is there was a wonderful actor and improviser named Ben Gordon and I remember. I had to pick something up at the Fire Hall. Where second city ended up. And Yeah and so. I pulled up my nineteen seventy-one Akzo P P Harley Davidson NFL. H With the saddlebags all packed and I get in front of the building there and Ben Gordon Sarah my buddy and you know he's like the last person to see me before I go off. Snl My way through them. And I hit the highway. Yeah I'M GONNA buy on the bike and I'm riding down the highway down high over ninety two highly. Eighty one southbound on any one. Yeah and I'm driving along and I'm thinking how the futures ahead of me the wonderful and I'm on the bike and then I see station wagon full of liquor family owned and passing me in and they're waving. Oh no no no. This is before I'm known and then another car goes by. It's the young couple in a sports car pointing out me waving what and then in the third by the time I look back on my saddle bag. I'm full on fire back there. There's flames I had an old chessboard. You know in my chest said it was hard Borgetti. Hit the Muffler was burning off the Muffler Saddlebag and I think it was. It looked like just slow. I looked like a rocket car. Yeah so jeeze. I pull over and A and a couple of bikers. They were from the breed motorcycle club. I I'll remember that I wrote a paper on bikers in college and was that Just the society culture before when I hunt you're already written. Hells angels all in an evolving great reporter from the for that. But but but the breed they gave me some oil and they host me down and they sent me on my way and then I pulled into Manhattan or to the George. Washington bridge was about midnight. And I come across the George Washington Bridge and all of my electric cut out on Harley on the Harley. All of the electric's yeah and there's no breakdown lane on the George Washington there is no. We don't have a place to go. No so I had to unwired the Front. The headlight and go out with pliers and a screwdriver and wire the thing transport's whipping by out. Thanks so I get into the Again into the city and I don't know which way I'm going. Just take the first exit. I ended up in depths of Harlem and one way streets with hey one way man one way one and I'm driving fronton finally get downtown and I get to a bar and a bar in the West village there. There's all these beautiful harleys all lined up and I talked to Barney back in. I go in and look in their skies dressed exactly like me black jeans. Black leather jacket leather jacket with neckerchiefs hanging out of their pockets. Different colored neckerchiefs. I mean you know. I've got a red win. Their concerns changing the oil. And I go in and I have a beer and you know and and You know one of the police bike and we're talking and everything I get some change I call John and I say So John Down the street here at this bar and he says what bars out. That's the one on the corner with all the motorcycles. Yeah that's that's that's like just that's the heavy metal gay biker bar of the city and I said Yeah Mullen. I'm hearing on beer so well come on over. And you know it was like look just like all those guys and the end Harley. Riders are hardly riders. Man We just talking about bikes and stuff and and so that was my sort of I. Welcome into into Manhattan. Yeah so what what? How did it shift that you? How did Lauren decided to put you? On the show I think basis of the addition tapes and some writing pieces and On appeal a last minute appeal from three people and they would have not have. I would not have been on there. They work for the lobbying of Gilda. Radner Tom Davis and Senator Al Franken. The three of them lobby. They gotta have Aykroyd got it. Yeah Yeah Yeah when you started when I talked to Lauren and I've talked to Al Franken several times as well it. It seems like that you know it was sort of a very engaged ensemble of people in terms of the creative process that that first season was just crazy right staying up all night working shit out. We had a schedule. It was but I don't know if it's the same there now I'll get to the what I feel about the show now and it's just nothing but enthusiasm joy. It's been so great but we in the Monday. We pitched the ideas Tuesday about him. Right him Wednesday blog Wednesday. Read them through rewrite Wednesday. Then shoot them for blocking Thursday and Friday than three shows on Saturday. Basically a dry run dress rehearsal show and the thing was we just all jelled we just they were frictions and everything but we understood each other's humor even though we came from different worlds. Yeah Yeah and Just we appreciated each other's gifts you know the brilliance of Schiller and his wife Bell and Michael O'Donoghue and Michael Danica. No Man. I like that guy like he blew my mind when I was young because I was thirteen. When you guys were doing that first season you've got about eleven years on me so I was really fucking with my head and you know anything Obe O'Donoghue would do on like what is this guy to precision writing. He taught me discipline writing submarines precision and format and and laying out beats. You know he was. He was really his humor kind of cut deep and dark and out there man right. Yeah Oh yeah so you of do some of that stuff too. I remember like I just landed in my head so hard that first season Basle Matic was first season Yup Yup. I don't know that that's dark humor. That's like how we got. We got letters about the fish. You can't put a Fisher cat go. How could you do that too? Well the fact that a matter I was I was ten years before I was thirteen years old. I was at my aunt's house in in Quebec near Montreal and my aunt was the Julia Child of Canada. Oh really her name was Alan Guujaw and she had her own Shopper Radio Show. Tv show cooking shows the first your aunt. She was my She's deceased now. Gotcha you wonderful woman. She brought the first cuisinart to Canada. And so one night. We're sitting at her place on the river near Montreal. Naronha and I see The blender going see her pop. A whole trope into the blender hit the button. I sedan. Helen. What about the is the head? The bones to buoy obeys. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter it's supposed to be in there supposed to be in there and that shot. I was what so later. The friend years later he's using hit. The blender nothing liquefied so ten years later. I'm with Lauren and Paul Simon and Chevy Chase and we're having dinner ready lanes and You know and they'd say what they're talking about fish up there and say. I hope uses about some attic. You know you and what you know and and you know. Yeah that's where you put. If and somehow Paul he laughed at that yeah yeah he laughed and he laughed and he was doubled over. I think he lost like lost. It and I thought wow you know. Paul is one of the most brilliant people alive. Yeah and if I can get a laugh like that Paul Simon. I'm reading this thing up right so I wrote it up and but he seemed like you guys were having fucking great we were. It was hard. It was video commando time. There was a lot of stress and you know was it got to a point where I kind of get a little upset there and I was because we were. We were writing the show and then the card people couldn't keep up now. The show is red. If you're going that fast you have cue cards. Were coming to me and saying Dan. We can't take these pages from the writers at the last minute and put them up. They just won't get up there. Yeah so I let a little revolution in a slow that process down question. Since you're the front like the the cards have always been red. And you know why because you're going fast cutting five cameras and you and the cameras caught on cue words and and also you're you're moving fast and and you've got your not enough time to memorize shit some well. It helps to memorize memorize memorize. But you know when you gotta go to the cards. They're there for you. They those guys and and ladies they're they're just heroes on. Snl their beloved and they're just it's a sharpie on a card but boy you know if you're doing a wrap that has to go fast or if you're doing update or so. Yeah it's just it's just a boom to have them you know prompters. Don't work because because the the cardholders they're human they feel the rhythms conceive. Said you think you're going to get to the end of the line. The cars whipped away when you're approaching the top of the line. You're at the middle of the line of card. It can be moved. They feel the rhythm of the whole peace and they you know they get out about the actors really a wonderful interplay. Yeah to make it happen. But when you and like it wasn't like you're on camera with a ton net first season in the first two seasons right. But you guys were POWs right. Oh Yeah did you share addressing writing room or did share. We shared a shared a room with bunk beds and a couple of desks. Yeah Yeah we had a writing room and then then I was living for almost the whole of the first year while. Let me say at least four months with John and Judy so yeah they let me stay at their place Right yeah he's still around right. Oh yes judy's my partner in in Blues Brothers Stuff and yeah. Yeah she's in town here. Sorry Yeah Yeah. She's doing all right. She's doing okay. She's doing okay. I mean that was. That was a tough thing. They were high school sweethearts. I know and it so like when when you guys are working together and you see the culture that sort of happening there with drugs and whatever but you never. You weren't that one your bag Well I mean back then the Greenie was plentiful. Yeah Right now. We let one up. I sneeze The ironic thing is the turbines. Give it the taste is what I used to like about it but if I I I. I would be sneezing here. You wouldn't believe I be so loud. The weeds is well. The turpin garb produced some allergy. I WanNa go back then. Never was you know back then. Kind of fuel the Greenie by never was into the Coke Koyo or the The powders of the pills. That thing booze has I've never had a problem or was always been able to moderate my alcohol consumption. I am in that business now. I have a vodka line crystal head vodka skull head the skull had. Yeah now my My Brilliant manager managing partner Jonathan. He went to the school at Shula School of Business University of Toronto Wonderful He said you know. Come on and go on to mark show and talk about the head talk about the head while I'm not GonNa talk about that. No no just a wind him up. I will say that. It's Chris Lead Vodka. It's the zero outta vodka if you want to have a vodka. It's the cleanest one on the planet. I Know Brown. Spirits are huge every bartender in Barshefsky's brown spirits but every bar has to have a vodka and why not crystal. Had you pay a little more for it? But it's only thirty two cents more shot here. Are the notes sweet vanilla dry crisp with a kick of off the Finnish? That's all I'll say moving on aviation. What'S THE FOUNDATION OF VODKA? Is it a potato or awry Well so as you ask It's a we have a corn. Oh and sunset wheat and what makes my vodka differences. We don't add glycol. We don't add sugar. We don't add Turpin. We don't add any lemon at all. We just have the good old newfoundland water which comes from the glacier melted into the province and it's sitting underneath the province and we have a pipe that goes down into a well and up at comes and it's it's just beautiful body really vodka's the Russian word for water so we start with good water. We got there. Yeah I didn't realize you can make vodka almost out of anything you can grape. Stand ally on Rice Oh Yeah Potato. Share turnips Yeah but we like that are corners. Eyup it's called peaches and cream. That's the brand of corn. It's called the peaches and cream corn. It's nice and fat and see really involved from the ground up here. You go to the place where they make. Yes I I've been twice. I've got to get back there. I've been travelling the world selling it for them in Newfoundland. Yes Newfoundland Canada. The other people that are talk with Beautiful Irish accent. They're lovely lovely. I've never been up there here. It's beautiful it is spectacular and And it's just a colorful wonderful place. People walk down the street. They're not in their phones. They're holding hands or CAP. Knew each other. Yeah so we felt that Not only the water but her love of the people they make it so i. I've traveled the world selling the thing I have no problem. I'm able to consume safely and but I encourage anyone who does consume to do so moderately. I Make I. It's just like I make a do coty. I do. I make I make the best of vodka. There I believe in believes they make the best motorcycle. Two Cardi makes a motorcycle. That goes two hundred miles an hour. I make a vodka that sure after eight shots. You're not going to get a hangover. But I don't recommend drinking that much we it is because there's glycol we're doing well with them. We're having fun and we're meeting some meet people and again. We are encouraging sobriety everywhere. We go well. That's question that's Nice. Segues like you know when you saw. John Get out of control was just no stopping it. I mean I'm I'm a silver guidelines over a long time so I know the deal. We're their attempts. Made was it. Oh yeah many men. We flushed a lot of coq down the toilet. We intervened but he'd wriggle away from us. And how through a you know anyone would it? It started basically in the first year of the show but he'd been exposed to it before currency generation. I get it yeah. It was a blow as the currency of the and a lot of people were on it and he loved and he did that was what kind of got him got him going and he just had ended the personality and so it's a prolonged heartbreak of I think of him all the time especially when I go into a house of Blues. I think of all the time because here we built these beautiful Blues Palaces for music and fun and he's not any there's all around There's thirteen still yup. It's owned by live nation. The Concert Company and that was the first big. That was a huge business for you. Well I learned even a business dude. Well I tell you you know you go into show business. Even at second city going to cabaret or working for. Cbc You have to negotiate your deals. You have to know your value. You have to manage the money when it comes in. You know I've always you know it's it's show business so I've been in show business a long time and it is a business you know you broke your talent. You work with an agent broker and you put the product out there and sell it You know it's kind of you know. My my dad worked for the government. He he did not have a business sense in terms of Doing that but it seems like you always did your speakeasy for cops in after hours. I always beautiful man. The five still five. Oh Five Queen Street East. Yeah what a spike still at speaking. No no I think some lawyers are in there. No Yeah so bad but it just seems like you know what the House of Blues deal and and sort of the the vodka deal that you like making the deals you like doing the thing. I enjoy the people that I work with. Because of the creativity how smart they are how the cruise the House of Blues Staff Man. They're amazing they love working there. And then these creative people I was involved with Tigres and all the people that founded in fun of going to for instance the House of Blues Vegas with the greatest view of the Strip. Yeah how the foundation room at the Mandalay Bay chatter going there hanging there ordering vodka fifty people for dinner. Yeah you know friends and partners and thinking wow I mean. Didn't Elvis live like this Frank Sinatra? Live like this. Do you know staying up till three in the morning on the show is playing shows playing a concert with Jimmy and going upstairs and partying at three in the morning. I The nightclub that we have an ownership in. It'll drinking fluid that we're making. Wow how grateful I am. You have a great life. I was most certainly we all do living in the Western world. We we sure born for Awhile. Martha's vineyard my primary residence. Us Yeah. I see my dad a lot in Canada. Because he's not years it but be loved the vineyard love the vineyard that's gets its own ecosystem out there. It's the northeast I love. I love the history in Boston. I love yeah terrain up. There is pretty. Yeah no beautiful. Love the coast to line up in Maine even great beautiful place. So so you're on you did. Snl for like four or five years. Four Years Seventy four to seventy five and then we wrote the blues brothers and we had to leave to complete the blues so John. There that long to yes yeah. Same four seventy five when he left to do animal house so he was there for a few months and Lorne You Know John. Left to do animal house. They offered me the part of d day and I just I just couldn't believe ultimately I couldn't leave Lauren shorthanded with an without well. Short of a writer and I knew it would. I knew that he didn't want me to go on. In in the worst way and I would hurt the enterprise a bit and I was. I knew I made the right decision there. I know it was nice to Lauren. Appreciate that all the time and to this day so okay so you then you and John put together the booze breath we had and we couldn't stay at the show then because we were shooting shooting went over into the fall and I went over into the. Yeah I went over into the you know. Kinda fallen and then you know kind of winter into we had to be in L. A. And it was time to leave you know and that was huge right blues. Brothers did okay. It was it was a box office hit And went on to think some people credited with reviving the careers of these great artists. Who for me in duck and all well Qatar Murphy Gene Yup and ARETHA radio recording and performing I? It helped boost it with an audience. That might have been a less familiar. I think colleague Bob Callaway and James Brown best friends or I call. I say I don't know if he thought that about me but I certainly thought about him. He opened five nightclubs with us. And he did to move to three movies with me. Doctor Detroit And The First Blues Brothers on the second able to have a real relationship. We had five. Y'All went to his birthday party and Augusta Georgiana and hung with him Anytime so once John was out here and you kind of went your own way. John died in eighty two right after the movie so that was kind of blow and I didn't know what quite what to do with that but You know pick things up and remember the picture of the writing for leading the procession right right on the bite. Yeah had to be that had to be done. I mean had beaten. John Loved Harleys. Who loved riding together. Yeah powerful image. Sure sure that was a was a tough day. Tough Day for sure. Yeah you know. He was thirty three. Oh my God yeah and when I do still born in Chicago now I sing the old nick. Grab a night as Paul Butterfield tune. Hello Hi sing that song and I say and my second friend went down when he was thirty three years of age and one thing you can say about that boy. He made the front page and is on all the front pages. I had to run from from our office where I was working on ghostbusters. And typing a line of his and I get the call from Bernie Brill's theme that he was gone. I to run a member was really March Day. Severe clearly they say aviation and Iran and there was the news. It was just hitting the newsstands. I had to run judy to let her know before anybody else did. I was a long run. I ran down from Fifth Avenue and Twenty Street all the way down her Warton Street. No no I walked in. She was just getting breakfast and I tell her. Yeah Yeah I guess not Leo you know sort of Ono. We all sort of if you knew. He knew he was kept going. Mike go like that but there was always a hope that he would he? Would you know? I think if he was alive today he'd be a director on Broadway theatre. Yeah he'd be. He'd be He'd have production theater production company. He'd be he doing all kinds of stuff You know back to the you know. The worker. The hard nitty gritty actor. You know he loved that I. I was in college my Freshman Year of college when it happened. I was devastated. I I love the gay. I didn't know him but I was a big fan. Oh it was fun. We we went up to Boston to to sell a record the Saturday night. Live record on radio and that driving around the town. We pulled over pullover to web a corner and there's a melamed every school four story elements and John gets out and he goes to the front window you know and And starts doing and people start recognize him and then second floor third floor fourth floor. He had the whole school screaming out of time. But we left the place you know. His performance in animal animal houses outstanding and his performance in the Blues. Brothers tickly meticulous. When he says to the guy. Bob's country bunker. I of course we'll be paying for those beers. I I usually sit in the car and and write the check out on the dashboard. You know we'll be right back. You know he's just a master master comedian and they got to know him and be with them for eight years. Well what a privilege and a pleasure. Carrie Fisher under the tunnel. Yeah we lost. We lost her to that. Was that was a complete shock. What a brilliant wonderful. Yeah Oh you should be together kind of we were going to get married. We test rings the whole thing and and we fell deeply in love. And then you know then we left. The Blues Brother's sat in. We took a lear jet. Yes Sean and Jimmy. And Carrie Ann. I moved to Martha's Vineyard in the middle of the night and I was GonNa show carry the home where we're gonNA live for. This is where we're going to live. It's I just bought this. I'd say I told you. Just buy a house there. They don't care if it's on the ocean just as long as it has nice views. Yeah so Judy said I found a house is not quite vineyard styles on Cape Cod. So we pull up at his house in the middle of the night you know and there's carrying. I'm sort of almost gary over the freshman. Don't take but we get inside and it's all kind of it. Looks like Fred Flintstone cousin built it. It's got you know stone fireplaces a bit but fine and then all is modern kind of eames furniture and stuff and and I dunno structures wrong wrong wrong and I said well. Apparently there's a beautiful view with beautiful view and and night went badly and the next morning I hear on the phone with Paul Simon and she said I gotta go back to Paul After. I gotta go so I drive her to the airport. It's I wake up at nine thirty in the morning. She wakes me up and I go get in the jeep and its fog is set in around this house and so I try to the airport and finally the fog clears and the planes able to take off. She says was great thank. I'll call you. We'll be you know. She flies back to New York to Paul who she was with after the house. I'm yeah and I go back and I loved her and I am a little broken hearted but it's Kinda I maybe. This is best for her. And all of it and I drive back in the jeep to the Vineyard House and by now the fog is lifted and get to the top of the hill. And I find out that it's nineteen fifty-nine you Sony House designed by day or Sasaki. It's a beautiful of glass panelled walls and it looks out over the sound and there's a hundred mile view and see the see from everywhere from five different angles and I thought boy if she'd seen this view I don't think she would allow them the morning. We might have gotten married. You know. He's still have you know. Don't live there my live there you know when I can get to it. Yeah Yeah and then my daughters all know they own everything now given everything. Oh really Oh of course how do they? I've got a daughter. Danielle she and performs And as a writer and performer. And then I have a daughter Bell. I've got a daughter Stella. Who's my writing partner? Oh Really Yeah. Yeah. I mean he's still seem to show up and things and you know that ghostbuster franchises. Still kicking yes. They haven't shown me a thing because they know talk about it. The third one. Yeah yeah they don't have some me some stuff some nope. Nope no because they know. I'm going to be bragging about it. But we're getting excellent feedback from those who who've seen it via on who are involved in it just as a producer or I was I was Let's say major cheerleader. Because it's you know it's the it's the old family Franchiser I suggested some ideas to Jason and I did a little writing on it but it was basically the last one. No no that was Paul. Feek fee great yeah. The women's movie was really funny. Really good and some great ghosts and a great villain in the end with the red bow tie. I just should have been watching this two dollars and cents more as a producer but and this one we did watch the dollars and sense. And what's the angle and this one this one transfers the DNA of the first two movies to the to the third group and an Jason's written in and it's really really good adjacent in email and so I showed up to play apart He he wrote up some scenes in there which are help. Feed the story so I agree to now Jason like someone you saw grow up from. Being on the set he was on the. He's in the second he's in the second movie and he's the one who gives us gives us shit at the at the the the party that birthday party and I've talked to him and Ivan Ivan. Yeah Yeah it was nice so like after. Snl and you do you know the big hit was like it was trading places really right. I mean. That was a huge. I think that you know the the of neighbors by the way. Now that was a that was a a Thomas Berger Book that was adopted and John Aptitude and I kind of turn it into a screenplay and There's some neat bizarre stuff in there. We we should have I don't know we switched parts. Maybe we should have just kept the odd movie. It was odd. The book was odd but I think that character and John's character. He was so funny and cute in that. How would it have made more money and done better? Had we switch parts back? If I'd been the Ville if I'd been the guy and he'd been the villain I duNNo. I duNno trading places. Great collaboration with Eddie Murphy and then we other ghostbusters movies and is like us which was a wonderful collaboration with Chevy. And Yeah Yeah and With my wife Donna. Did you always Chevy? Oh Yes oh I love Jeff Chevy and I when we first met in New York got on tremendously loved him. He was so funny. And he was my biggest supporter. Man He just he just Kinda got what I was doing. And you know he was always lobbying and and was behind. What I was up to. It was weird. It was very very he was an ally of mine. Great Yeah Oh yeah because there was a weird I I was there bad blood when he left after the first season. Nobody wanted him to go of because he was a big star in the show. We felt that might hurt us. Yeah maybe there was some personnel. Were happy left but I think that he left early. I I'm sorry you left now. Even sorry he left. We'd have we'd had fun bought. What did it gets? Murray came on them and you knew involvement from day one from when I got hired as can we bring Murray to and And and Maria. Maria was introduced me to in second city when he was my chaperone. And Billy Yeah so. He came on and then look at the work he did. He's GonNa Friends. I hope so we are. We are we saw each other on the set of GDP there. Yeah we're we`re. We're as close as brothers can be. Yeah I guess and brothers can sometimes drift and and be close in but no there's never been a a major rift with us. It seems like your relationship with. Snl is not. He's not only nostalgic. But you seem to keep up with all the way through. Yeah when you think of the show now I love it. I think it's because he said he wanted to tell really great. Kate McKinnon as the devil lot. We double over. How the writing is really really sharp. Of course they've got a lot to write about now and no. I love the the cast members. Now they're they're really outstanding. They did a Eddie was on there and they did a spectacular senior. Yeah the kick making very funny comic freely funny. Yeah just terrific. Yeah it seems like it goes up and down. It was so funny because y interviewed Lorne. I had this weird agenda because I I've gotten this far in the audition process for us and allies to meet with him and then I did not get the Gig many years ago so I wanted to closure on that and he was. He was nice enough to walk me through. What he believes might have happened then. Yeah which was great but also he brought it to my attention. I think a lot of people do my age. Were I said you know your season? The first season or the first couple. It's sort of mythological Mike. It's has a mythic presence but in his mind as a guy who's been walking those halls for forty years or whatever and I it's like that was a good one but we've had other good ones like he's he's right there with them. I would say you know he's right there today Feeling the same way heated about most affectionately and admirably about all the loves all his children equally. You think I do. I do and what about the environment all the way through all the way through every year year? There's something there that that is salvageable for him and now he's on a real triumph with this magnificent cast and creative writing do you talk to them I spoke to him. I was supposed to go in and do something there but I had a another thing. That couldn't make it out you know couldn't get out of it. Yeah but you guys are good. Oh sure yeah and that environment that that everyone talks about can you? Can you can cut it or you. Can't it's pretty it's pretty It's pretty competitive and Yes yes it was But in the end we all pulled together as a team and and that's what that's what makes it work because there aren't that many dissenters odd. I. I haven't talked to. People have chips on their shoulders but most of the people that survive. Snl think it was one of the greatest experiences of well. I sure I sure my say so. Yeah Yeah and how? How did you figure out that you might have the ASS burgers that self diagnosed? I don't I don't know I've never really gone to a medical. I think that's probably More I don't know some early trauma producing like threats. Like since you had that right I had some early trauma. I had some trauma in in Elementary school with particularly abusive teacher. Really think that's me to where I got. You know. I do. Tell your parents by They've sent me to a psychologist. I I was in therapy Between the ages of Home my God. Let's see now ten to fifteen. What was the trauma A physical abuse with Ruler Pointer Knuckles really for every day at school. Mostly Catholic school Well yes it was And you feel that that triggered the May of yeah because I got ticks and I got barkings and yeah. Yeah and that really set me off and and You know I was a quirky little kid already. What were the beatings for? What was he doing other palm? Well I won't say whether it was male or female No no I was the one that was picked that year. Yeah Oh shit. Yeah so and then you went to therapy and Well you know my what might well going even going to that school my my here. You know the old story. All when I was a kid I used to walk three miles. So there's not just go. Well guess what I did. I was seven eight years old. My mother would set me up the door in at in the seven. Eight years old the back door in the woods Gatineau Park. Yeah go down a path where the timber wolves were howling in like a half mile away. Go up under the hydro lines down this steep steep rocky cliff to a creek. That was there and that Creek was one that my dad is. The engineer had built for drainage and I said. Can you put a bridge there? He said we'll put a bridge. But not where you cross. He'll be where most people cross so he did. Put A BRIDGE CR- there but it was too far to walk down in the snow. And then I try to get across and there was always like a board or something inevitably. I'd fallen into my waist. Then I go across his busy highway up into the neighborhood where the French Canadian kids picked on me. Because I was English. They try to grab my books at credit with me but the time I got to school I was soaking wet traumatized and then again in class and this person goes after me physically. Wow Yeah you're not a good day. Every day Shitty Day it was it was it was bad. Yeah one grid that one year. Yeah so in diagnosis. That's my own diagnosed. I got a lot of other things. I'M I. I definitely know that I'm I'm a Hetero chrome EAC Hetero Sin Doctor Light when I say I know for sure. What is it? That is a person with two different colored eyes and webbed toes We had the web does yeah. I'm wonder seven billion of us on the planet now. I think there's two two to have both those. Oh really I don't know I wish to people became preset of five thousand. I am I know. I know that I'm not special. Had Not yeah what else do you know what else what else. Diseases. I guess. I'm pretty clear you're doing good so now getting through like you know talking about You know spiritualism what what kind of gets you through the Environment. We live on now. It seems like you're awfully busy. And you got busy brain and you're interested in I'm trying to I'm trying to you. Know just trying to be as loving as I can't if my fellow human being and I'm trying to recognize that every human I meet even if it's just you know getting a burger across You know in and out You know that that's a person with feelings and with You know senses and that there's something going on in their lives and if I can a pleasant moment for that person at like sometimes I get people come up with selfish and that I got. How can I turn that down? That's that's like you know. This is a moment. I want them to remember pleasant thing. What's going on in their life? I want to be treated that way. That's a great Christian value. Be Treated as you wish you should be treated and you know. I try to live my life that way. I'm not a perfect man. I'm deeply deep. Blue flawed. Human being ever I think I'm on the right side of most issues morally and spiritually and I looked to not necessarily God to the cosmic engineer. I do sometimes cast my eyes to the sky and say Lord. Can I get some help here? Yeah I believe that we can all call upon that as universal energy. Stolpen your top of your head to it and say I just need a little inspiration a little. I'm going through a lot. Yeah Power of the universe visit me. So that's kind of where I'm at In terms of you know a spiritual pursuit don't think formal religion has done as well and so I'm I'm a severely lapsed. Catholic sure mix ended up but fascinated with the Vatican of course enrollment popes pope. And the yeah the deep dark man I went in there. There was one of the most frightening places is writing a lot of dead wizards around massive louder with hopes. And I'm thinking peasant it's fifteen eight I'm going in. I'm marrying my grain in. Yeah bring more grain next year. No that's exactly the same thing you visit those cathedrals you look up and you're like Oh my God it's like how is that not gonNA brain fuck you into believing those designed seconds the king. Yeah I know but like any of those churches in Italy Dude. Yeah they're all mindless full. Beautiful yes letters with with magical corpses. Yeah and bits and pieces of people at six. Yeah this full on witchcraft. In that religion all the time no doubt no doubt absolutely. It's all it's it's g Bucci Mitsubushi God these president. Yeah I got a this is a race. Stance ghostbusters doll. Oh thank you and it's a real cute when okay thank you? That's That's a little bit and then I don't know is this. I shouldn't give this to you because it's classic but any but it is well. It's it's a state off wall. That's great that you can put ice cubes in nobody. I mean what are we GONNA do? What are we knew about plastic You know and here's your family business. And if you do play a record from time to time. I got an artist named Vassallo V. E. R. A. S. O. L. A. She's a protest singer. I could call her. And she's written a song about the extinction of the Black Rhino and it's called Black Rhino enterprises. And I know it's on spotify out Rhino enterprises and all music on spotify and apple really powerful songwriter. Crunch Guitar Composer Vera Solo V. E. R. A. S. Phanor of Great. I'll check that out and and you consider the history of ghosts. This is the family business. It is it is yeah yeah medium ship through the ages. Yeah is there not. I'm not gifted I'm not a medium. I've never seen you do this. Donald living up to digestive lease. No you've channel things you channel things all the time now but that's the question you see how how versatile you are at moving through voices in feeling beings within you. Even though they're popular beings that we've all grown to love through other mediums and and their impressions but is there an element of huxterism in this in this person Yes saw? There's pointed out on the book of all the fakes. Her in there. Too is all fakes. Okay sometimes what happened? Is You know you'd have a very gifted medium like you Sapio Palladino. She produced at the plaza but then later in her life or gifts left her and she had to fake it. That's that's what she produced ECTOPLASMS. She did what does that mean Well it's it's in the book there. It's kind of Mucus. Viscous substance looks like I did not in fact I can tell you. No one knew what actor Plaza Mas before ghostbusters? We we educated the world. They're millions of people now know what active. Plaza is now because of ghostbusters. One and we're going to get into it again in the third move. It was great talking to you. Thanks for having me up in the tower here. Now we gotta get down. Let me call the Gal k know what next time. Let's do it in the silo for sure. I'll meet you there. I love man. I'll I'll rocket Carin beautiful ticker okay. So that was me. Dan ackroyd again. You Know Crystal Head. Vodka is available and he's also going to be In the coming ghostbusters afterlife is way stance again and call your friends. Check in with your family stay connected to somebody other than just the information on your phone reach out. You're feeling isolated into up into your own chicks or the darkness is closing in on you yet. You're still well Reach out in talked to a friend. Okay I will now play three chords on my Les Paul Junior through my fifty three fender Deluxe Shampoo. Nine hundred. Sixty s bulbs pretty. Well cranked and I'll talk to you Thursday now.

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Anticipated Movies of 2020

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Anticipated Movies of 2020

"At this point is you're tuned in to alter geek low in and welcome to alter your host Steve Phillips joining me in this episode is Mike Birdman John and Alex from this week dot. We are joined leaned to this episode this week to talk about the most anticipated movies of twenty twenty and some of the ones that we think are going to be total dogs not so without further ado. Let's let's get into it. I like that term dogs now again. There's probably going to be. We're so early in like there's going to be more movies announced that especially for the late summer to fall winter that there's going to stop things get moved. Yeah the really big titles have already been announced already. Your had this generally how it works. But there's GonNa be a lot of medium budget titles or things that were Dates to be determined that will pop up later and or or even like indie titles that we ended up liking more. But I guess these are all the ones that have been announced currently as of like this month so it looks like it's broken down into a few movies per month deal so you just want to start with Like January some of these might have already come out are coming out now. Yeah so it. Afire often in January Very early on we have the grudge. which is a remake of a remake of a remake? Now this kind of looks okay and it looks scarier scarier John Show on it. I think yeah scarier than the original. I am confused the garage with the ring and this doesn't look as good as the ring But this does look better than the grudge like the was it Sarah Michelle Gellar one. Yeah this looks a lot better than that. There is one. It's not on our list. It's probably out by now. It's called Antlers. I think it is and it's basically about a skin walker. which which Louis Really frigging cool? I really want to get out the theaters to see that right around the exact same time as the grudge. Yeah so I'm surprised putting all these horror movies in January which is really odd time. Well he used to be the dead month but remember January and February is when we started getting weird stuff. Like Gotcha John Wick. Yeah we're like you'd be like holy crap that you can actually make money in these months. Plus this way doesn't Saturate October so I get it These are either holdovers. That didn't make it for October or ones that they don't WanNa wait taught over for Bad Boys Three bad boys for life is coming. Ah We're being released January. Seventeen that I'm optimistic for. It's not Michael Bay. Which makes me upset which is weird thing thing for somebody to say but I think it will do okay money but I don't think it's going to do great money because Michael Bay? He knows action. He's probably to the best of that style of action movie director but from what I hear. The director was a very very big fan and is trying to make it as close as possible and they did bring back the captain captained. Which makes me happy so I'll give it a watch? It's probably going to be a movie. I see I've got a I've got some movie passes. Listen I even have. I was one of the smart guys that when I did some Christmas shopping I purchased fifty dollars worth of gift. Cards to hand up to my cousins got got myself. One of those holiday gift on will get a free movie tickets for. I think one has to be used in January and February. So maybe I'll use one for that and and the other like bigger movie is doolittle which seemed to come out of nowhere. The trailers for it only came out like two three weeks ago which is very odd for for for a very very large. I think it's Disney putting it out. It is for a Disney movie. It's only had a marketing campaign. Starts six to eight weeks for release kind of unheard of specially with such a large star attached to it but it is Robert Downey a junior then is true so he he's been pretty charming ever since he got stopped snorting the the booger sugar back in the today. Pretty consistent twenty years or fifteen years actually ever since bank aim out. Well that's what he he'll admitted problem was right. He just doesn't like talking about it now but Kiss Kiss Bang Bang really revitalize his career back in. Oh five oh six. And and he's been nonstop ever since and then we're looking like and there's going to be more movies released but these are sort of collected from what was it. fandom is the the collection is s s. these movies so it's sort of like what people are talking about so they are going to be movies on these lists that Maybe you don't think are that big as an audience member or maybe there's ones that you thinker bigger but these are just what's been published out there that we're sort of commenting on so there's generally you know three or four months February has birds of prey. which I am? I'm going to see probably going to be one of my birthday movies as my birthday is February second and it comes up February seventh. I'm curious about it. I haven't seen suicide squad yet. I'm going to have to watch it. I it's very loosely tied into that continuity although it ignores ninety nine percent of it like it's just the character looking design but it doesn't have anything to do with suicide squad allegedly. So I like Margot or go robby as Harley Quinn I really do I like most of the characters including in this I think you have a black mask is cool like if you haven't seen her turn in The Tonya harding movie was it was an. Im Tanya or I am some Eitan Tanya. She was great in that. Like something about all the Ozzy chicks where they can do all the different accents and drop it in and they really blow you know a lot of other actresses out of the water and she can do it all also if anybody can get that character over. It'll be her Yeah it looks pretty cool. We'll see -cause. DC's starting to get a good track record with their movies. Because wonder woman was great and Aquaman Zam will about Justice League. But let's be honest third. They're they're they're individual movies. That haven't involved Batman or Superman have been good. Yeah so the next big one is one that got pushed back from November of this year. So that is a completely redesigned. The character was sonic the hedgehog which I'm surprised. This movie's even coming out as a live action. Computer animation thing. You can start to see posters and standards in theaters now. We got a new trailer color. A coup- a couple of weeks ago and it looks good. It looks great however the theater or the company that did the visual effects for it was a Canadian Indian company and they're all unemployed. Now it's how a lot of these effects houses work unless they're owned by a studio they basically get built up to three or four projects in a row and then when the money any runs out. They're gone so now they do this. It's similar to similar to some of the construction industry on the East Coast. Certain Times of the year they shut down and then everybody collects unemployment so everybody here will be collecting money and then out of the blue somebody'll come along say we eighty to affect studio and then the same people that created that studio will then incorporate a new company so they can get more Canadian tax credits hire everybody back and they work for another. Oh you're too. So it's not as bad as the media makes it out to be just sort of how the industry ebbs and flows. I hope these people find work because looks fantastic. Yes Ah ignorant question do you wonder was that a ploy. Do you think they actually did have to change anything or had they made it and made this all some big elaborate Britt. No somebody screwed up somewhere. They had faith in this and they didn't WanNA listen to somebody. Lower down saying guys. This isn't cool but somebody in marketing said. Let's go with it so it's not my not my conspiracy by clicking. It's it's actually legit. They had a jacket or something. It looks great. Are you going to see Steve. Oh yeah totally. I A huge sonic fan. Your boys probably I mean I'm more of a one. The kids don't sit still into very enough. I just like yea I just. I don't Movie like appreciates on the kid. Anyway you know well in in I yeah I I grew up on sonic like on on the second genesis and everything so In playing the crap out of it and so having seen redesign. Now I'm fully. You know backing the end and I. I like the fact that Jim Carey's playing robot neck even though it's a little bit more joe cash with it with his character But I I enjoy what he's bringing to the table for it because it kind of reminds me of the USA Cartoon Express version of the adventures of sonic the Hedgehog. No matter how yeah the one I used to hate as a kid. The one I hated as a kid to everybody come on the TV. Okay Sonics on. Oh it's the bad sonic Yeah I I liked the the one that was more like hardcore hardcore. You sat you know what it was. It wasn't so much about neck and it wasn't even sonic that I didn't like it and I. It was the voice acting on the chicken. That was so grading on me that I could scratch and sniff. Yeah it was it was it was it. It was too much with like you know making the hair in the back of my neck. Stand up which is I. Guess Kudos to them but it was annoying to the point where I didn't want to watch now the no matter. How bad at sonic is you know? Jim Carey had fun because you can. You can tell when he phones it in nowadays. Oh yeah this is not this was him gleefully lethally having fun Oh yeah he can tell he enjoys it so that will definitely be a wh- like that's one of the four for sure order my tickets. Early Movie Now the next one was earlier before we were on air. Mike goes wait. That's the thing. I forgot the bloodshot movie. So the first in the valiant comics has invested a ton of money. So Sony I think Sony put in like a hundred or two hundred million dollars into developing hoping some of the properties They wanted to have their own comics. Universe if they couldn't have anything but just spiderman right so the valiant for those that don't know was the biggest independent comic a company ever. I'm going to say in the ninety S. I don't think so I think I think they were below image and top Calvin definitely in the top five in the early nineties before they were bought out by claim they had like each one of their comics were getting multiple million like circulation relation. They were They were really big from like ninety two ninety five And then they just fell apart due to mismanagement management as a lot of companies do But they they're probably most famous for bloodshot harbinger so man o' War X. amount of war which had crossovers with video games actually had crossover ironman. Yep on on Saturday or something. Saturn and the thirty hugh acts yeah or something. They were known for being geared towards more adult readers like or or like late teens to college. Readers were in the nineties. Comics were still mostly geared towards younger teens or kids so they were sort of like they were like the imprint comics of all the like. DC would do later on But before that was a thing you know like they would do they would do themes that were more bloody more adult themed or more political. Oh so cool. So they want to start their own franchises or bring up their their movie series. They've got like three or four in the works and let shots the first one and starring Vin diesel. Because he's a comic book doc and DND nut so it looks pretty cool The special excellent pretty darn good for certain scenes in certain scenes. I'm like he from the trailer. I'm probably still going to see it because I I'm one of the people that actually owns the bloodshot when when valley came back about what nearly ten years ago now I own few of the first first volumes. So I wanna see how close they actually make it to the actual source material Because right now he doesn't look anything like bloodshot doesn't the comics where he's all white like he looks like he looks like he's supposed to look like mister sinister and he right now. He looks like I'm a steal a car pro. I fully expecting that. The last movie is where he's going to look like you're supposed to look in which case is Horsh it for him to go through the movie ninety percent without the costume. Yeah exactly so we'll see where this goes but I'm still going. I am tepid but I'm going to check it out. Oh March brings us a couple of these. I don't care about onward. I don't know what that is. I think it's a pixar or dreamworks. DreamWorks animation. I don't know but when I do care about is a quiet place. Part to the first quiet place was amazing. I didn't expect expect to be as good as it was. And if you have a really good sir surround sound system. This movie beautiful. I haven't I haven't seen yet but I'm going to but but onward is the new Pixar movie and it's weakened at Bernie's but with finish so it takes place in an alternate world where uh-huh metrical theories and everything existed picture. Oh Dude it's basically like shadow run a little bit like what if Fairy Tales Dell's like medieval time fairy tales with technology yet. Like what if Lord of the Rings was set in the Modern Day. Okay Eh but magic is no longer existing and ev- everybody like you happen to be descendants of trolls elves and fairies but magic hasn't existed in hundreds one hundred years And then these two boys find out their dad was a wizard. They have a or secretly wizard the wizard staff and they find out that he left them spell. That can bring. I'm back from the dead for one day just to spend time with them before yes to go away. They go to cast the spell of a trailer gets halfway revived all the way up to his torso and they fall and the spell breaks and their dad has revived just to historic so and they have to run around the country with their dad in a pickup truck or in a Shangen wagon or ban. It looks like one of those eighties bands with like a like a Unicorn exit onto the side as they try to find somebody else who can help them. CAST the rest of the spell to bring their dad back so they can say hi before he disappears forever. Oh what they're doing is they weekend at Bernie's the whole thing by making a makeshift body with an put. Fake Sunglasses Assez on it and everything either taking him around so it looks Kinda funny. It'll probably be worth it it. It is odd for a pixar movie to come out in March though So especially with Moulin coming up in the same month which is the only live action Disney movie. I actually want to see mulally. Looks really cool. Because it's the only one that makes sense to to be live action. I could make an argument for Cinderella. I think but it's been done too many times. This is a story that like you know what I mean. There's other Cinderella stories. There's other Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale stories there's other GRIMM's fairy translates. This was very unique in that it was like a far raced. Age a story so it hasn't been done at least by a Western audience before the closest thing we can maybe get to something like that would have been what. The movies like hero would fearless back in the day. Tried to bring that to the West but this is trying to bring that to the West on a large scale which looks cool. Say with quiet place looks. I don't know if there's any of these interest you steal. He likes shiny things. No I don't want anything. Okay so moving on April this one the movie that just won't die new mutants. Haven't they moved there like three times four times at least at least this movie and I and it's supposed to be part of the marvel cinematic universe what's the point and it's been pushed stew for two years. It's been finished and re edited like three times over the course of two years multiple re-shoots to the point were what's her name from. Game of thrones. That was an. She's aged out of the character and they've had to shoot around that like some of the some of these characters actors when they started filming five years ago were teenagers and now they no longer teenagers. That's bad so will I see it. Oh you betcha is going to be. It's not GonNa stay in theaters law. I suffered through dark phoenix an Amex and I got a cool key chain out of it so I better got a damn keychain out of this one to the other movie so far that's been announced for April. There's gotta be more than that but maybe not with few things coming out march. But it's the next next James Bond no time to die which will be. That's an instant Go-to for me and my family. I'll see it. Maybe I don't know Blair doesn't like the James Bond movies which is really weird. I find but I I like Daniel Craig so sure. It's his last bond movie so all right why not moving onto may get black widow. I'm they're opening night for that because I've been waiting for this movie for years us as much as I have a distaste for her. As an actress I will see it mostly. Is it supposed to take place during the time. I am span of three the civil war I thought it takes some parts of it take place in different time periods like I thought take place in the ninety s and parts of it take place after civil war see I thought it was partially after Infinity War but I guess not because I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure because maybe you're right because there's too many people in it but I will see it because it David Harbour that guy. He's fantastic and he looks great. Or whatever Russian Superhero. He's going to be playing. He plays Red Guardian. WHO's basically Russian captain? America took the same super soldier serum but not as good still fits. This looks great. Actually this movie. I had no idea in fact I wonder if this is a mistake. At this point the Barbie movies coming out. I've heard nothing about this I went up into the state to. Yeah there's just something about that that seems off to me and legally blonde three also seems to be a mistake. I know it was in production at some point. But there's no way we it's an animated. Okay why I think AAC. Why because does the world need bore? Ellwood I ask you that Question Barbie movie. It is starring Margot Robbie which I bet it's animated the Barbie movie. It's apparently is going to be live action. It's so maybe this doesn't as a twenty twenty release and it was slated. It'd for spring summer. I predict this buried in the fall sometime. Yeah because you put movies in. May you believe in and money making money. Well if you look at what comes out right before it like you got James Bond coming up at the beginning of April which at the beginning of May they will still be in theaters. You Got Black widow may first and then you've got like I don't think legally blonde is coming out same thing because you got fast furious at the end of the month. I guess you could throw it in the middle there. But there's going to be something else. Probably a mid range budget action movie that will get released somewhere in between there and it will just just tank like who who is the market for Barbie Barbie has toy has been selling less than it's ever sold girls A Lotta Times are just getting being regular action. Figures like it doesn't that whole overly feminine Toy Line isn't the they've talked about. Mattel said it doesn't I like it used to so I don't know even know why they're making that movie. Is it for like people. My Mom's age to watch. I don't know it's weird because it's come come editor weird cultural time when gender roles are shifting right now so I don't I watch I would watch Barbie the Hardcore Porno starring Margot Robbie any day any day any day of the week yet. Oh Barbie yeah yeah yeah totally. What don't tell me you wouldn't even in secret? You don't even care. I would one hundred percent abuse murder rabbit. Well she's starting. Oh it's Barbie well. It's apparently a hardcore parnell and she gets stuffed on all ends. It'd be like what are you have my attention. I'M WE'RE GONNA go see the sure. Okay I standing there in line waiting to go in first night with everybody looking back and forth and it'd be like forty other dudes and I'd be like can you fucking believe this really going to be seeing this porno. Yeah it'd be sitting down in VIP they'd come up with would be like. Can I get you a beer and I'd be like yeah. Give me a jerk towel. That's the only way you get to see Barbie. I'd say that we're probably going to oppress copy to watch. Yeah yeah that's the furious nine until the guys at this weekend yes moving along. That's the theory is probably not a porno and I will see that. Because I'm up ridiculousness ridiculousness planner she. Oh I haven't seen a fashion if yours movies since like the fifth one comes out on May twenty second. My Dad's birthday is may nineteenth nineteenth. I don't know how many he's seen but I will make him watch all the others so I can take him to see it as an excuse for his birthday. Can you believe that franchise has been around for like twenty two years now. We will after the first two and third. I couldn't believe it but then I never saw the fourth but my brother told me it revitalized the series and then I saw a bit of the fifth and and then I my brother forced me to go see six seven eight together and we loved every second ever since the rock came on board. It's been a completely different movie series so moving on into July or June rather wonder woman eighty four. That's GonNa make a day one dollars huge. I am already so. It's not just the nostalgia factor it is. They've captured the looking sound and feel the eighties even with Pedro Pascal. 's Uh like infomercials is his dialogue that you know just the waste delivering. The lines is one hundred percent. How every commercial Sounded them. Yeah it's going to be cool and I like the fact that wonder woman takes a DC character and really gives it its do. Oh like it's going to be cool. And the fact that she's using the Lasso of truth to swing on lightning. That's frigging amazing The candyman remake remake which I think Jordan peele right I yeah. I think pretty sure that's going to be awesome like. I'm just looking forward to that one because horror remakes. I find in the last couple of years. They've been really really good so I got high hopes for that one. I don't know what Seoul Seoul is though that's that that's a pixar exert sequel sort of by the same the same visions of same writing team. That did Inside out cocoa. Oh I'll bet so instead of being instead of being exploring your emotions attorney in your head. It's exploring the afterlife or something like that. Oh that's fascinating. Maybe I will see that the big one another big one. That comes out this month or that month is a top gun maverick. which has long been in development at multiple stages? But it's finally happening and vaguely cynical. I'm really cool. I'm interested you know I'm going to bet something. I have never seen top gun from beginning to finish. I have only seen bits and pieces on TV and the Super Super Gay volleyball seen that I laugh at every time. And here's from the trailer for this. They have a super forgave. Always another one. So I'm okay with that and if you haven't if you don't know what I'm talking about watch the Super Gay volleyball seen on Youtube and then watch the Future Man TV if you show mocking it where they they do a shot for shot remake of it and then make it even more over homoerotic which is even more funny I think it looks fantastic. Now that one looks to have had a ton of input from the United States air force like it looks like they strapped opt. I'm Max cameras to the actual jets which does not surprise me if they did that. Because I've never seen anything like that. That hyper realistic. Well one of the things that Tom Cruise kind of prides himself on his doing his own ship when he does the mission impossible. That's him actually flying the helicopter like he took like weeks training courses so Tom Cruise probably logging legit flight. Time with these aircraft. was someone probably flying with them But still he's in charge of multi-million dollar airplanes so this is going to be cool. I'm looking forward to it. I hope it doesn't suck and we'll see the onto July look months for me minions like five or something was others or or disc would be. There was despicable me. One two three million. So yeah this is like five. This is the rise of grew. That should be funny. I liked the millions movies so why not ghostbusters. There's afterlife which has the potential to be really amazing directed by Jason Jason Reitman son of Ivan Reitman. It has like a stranger things kind of vibe. Some people are complaining. It doesn't look funny but go back and original ghostbusters. It had humorous moments but it was a supernatural adventure adventure comedy so kind of the biggest complaint I have is. They're doing a little too much with the you know. Look at this epoch. Wondrous Chris film trailer like the way they build it up. It should have been more quirky trailer. But that's not on Reitman that's on who ever cut the trailer so the tone of the trailer. Where is a little too like building up to be like? Oh my God. This huge epic is coming back. Not necessarily how would cut that trailer. I did see the one I saw Jumanji. Three in theaters took my mom to see that trailer played for the beginning. I said what do you think of that. You want to go see it. And she's like I don't know I'm like she goes anybody coming back and I said yes she was all. Maybe they haven't done a good job of explaining. WHO's coming back yeah? I don't think we will see that likely either. Super Bowl or in May because like she's my mom is like the classic casualty or she likes the movie the original but she's is not somebody who goes to the movies for every little thing so for her it has to make such. She looked at it she goes she said is going to be as bad as that one with the women and my mom fool I was like what she goes. Yeah it was on TV a few weeks ago. And I really didn't like it and I was like. Oh man if my mom didn't like the one with the women and she. She was the amount of disdain in her voice for the women. I'm like all man so it wasn't just me. I wasn't being women Haiti it. It just wasn't a good movie so I think this is going to have to do a lot to wash that taste out of your mouth and I hope it does but but I will be seeing it probably first week. Yeah I'm seeing that opening night for sure The next what is the movie. I've never heard of called. It's ten tenant ever heard of it is They showed when I spy movie. Isn't it weird. Time travel movie by Nolan Christopher Nolan it has the most intense scene ever seen in the movie The there was an eight minute preview when I saw write a skywalker on I max. Where or they showed? How the entire opening sequence was done with Imax? Seventy millimeter cameras so It it's about them. He shows him and another guy secretly secretly pretending to be part of a SWAT team. They sort of move in with the SWAT team to under appearance. Stop an assassination attempt at an opera in Russia but in fact they what's revealed. Is that that Swat team was actually there to kill the people and but their job is basically subvert the SWAT team so like they're secretly secretly infiltrating an assassination guild to actually sort them and while they're doing the one guy almost is the main character there that you see in the tenant picture and he. This guy goes to shoot a bullet Adam and he sees the fire and then it disappears because of what the Hell and he actually sees time reverse and things shift around him like things are moving in weird ways and he's he goes like what the fuck and then he realizes that it's sorta reveals that he's he's being pulled into a government agency. That's trying to stop worth three. But we're worth is what you say we're we're three isn't what you think it's going to be. And then it shows like a car they're driving on the road in a car flips over in front of them but then instead of crashing into them the car fixes itself unrolls itself back on the highway and ends with him like looking like what the hell is going on. And that's how the trailer ends okay. That sounds more interesting because I did see eighty something for this in front of Skywalker but I was like what the Hell is. Yeah the the Max. One had a full eight minute uninterrupted. Seen so we he had like forty seconds or something. Yeah so this think the weird physics physics that happened in inception but quantum break right. Yeah that's what I think. It looks pretty cool Jungle cruise is coming out at the end of the month. which that is based on the some some Land Ryan starring Emily Blunt and the Rock? Yeah it's it's based off the ride it. It's the Rock. It's GonNa be fun it'll be fun is not making this. There's no way. What is more obvious? morpheus is Spiderman ally. He's known as the living vampire play. Jared leto asthma. Yeah that guy so somehow no. It is the fact that we haven't haven't even we've seen one teaser. Shot maybe two from the set. But you don't see him in full makeup. You don't see him in costume. No there. This is not making July thirty. I it'll get pushed because no and the idea of putting. I like the fact that Sony is creating a spiderman shared universe but maybe leave it to the marvel people because the villain gallery is strong. His ally Gallery Gallery not so much unless you have the rest of the marvel heroes. So what are we craving the hunter. The movie there was talk of that for a while and then it would be cool. Who who would you get? Would you get like a Russian. Do Plan or Jason. MOMOA wouldn't be terrible craven. But he's too tied into into but he's probably thinking like you could probably they would probably go with some big wrestler dude or something like yeah. That's what I would do like. His English was better. Wouldn't the mountain. From game of thrones be good for him. I think he's a little too big now if you turn. The mounted forgave thrones into the Rhino. That would be awesome. Give him the big suit. How Could Act Rhino? The actual wrestler. He has the body. Does he really need to find somebody. That could fit that. But I I think it would work and then for August they only have one thing. Let's because you know there's going to be more listed in August coming to this having announced yet but it's bill and Ted and I am seeing that day. FM ONE YUP. I think we'll see a trailer by you. Might get a teaser. Her at Super Bowl. But you'll probably see full trailer by by May so that one will likely make releases we're starting to see some promo. I have come out of it now. So stay tuned for that one. I think that one will be pretty cool. I'm really looking forward to bill and Ted but that's more circus. I liked the original too. It's got thirty years of expectation and how it yeah they'll be some sort of tribute in there to Decarlo. Oh God yeah for sure. The they'll mention rufus or something totally in September a little less strong Ron stor hunter movie after one thing to consider too before we get into this is renting the second half of the year. Very few things are concrete. On creedence stone. Yeah like most of these movies looking at them. Now I can tell you are not happening. There's a monster monster hunter. It's it's based upon the game but only if a military unit gets transported to the monster hunter it's looked so stupid Starring resonated veteran milio with rich. I think and that's because why not I guess. Let me guess. Her husband is probably directing it. I actually think so. So Paul W S Anderson Anders. Go get him. Yeah the non. Not The wes Anderson the Artistic Guy and not the Paul Thomas Anderson of the really good director this crappy Anderson. This is the great value Anderson The next one. I don't know anything about the kingsman. It's the it's the Prequel to the Kings kingsman into it takes place thoughts eighteen twenties or so after World War One. I believe it will be fun. You should if you haven't seen the I too. Have you seen the first one at all Michael no entire on my list to watch his become. It becomes a trainee. I read the comics. So it's a little different than the comic. Basically he's a trainee to become a James Bond type character. That's what I say. His his at when it comes time at the end of the the big saving thing his entire motivation is the print. The princess's locked up. She tells him if he saves her he can fucked in the ASS and I'm not not kidding. She says if you save the world we can do it in the ass and he goes. I'll be right back. And then he goes to save the world and that's and then the the movie ends. The first movie is is funny because Amb Jackson. Yes but the movie ends with with him like them looking through like a camera like in his glasses as he's turning the girl over and pulling your pants down and then they turn off the camera like holy. I wish that literally like Vulgar James Bond is what the movie is and yes. Samuel Jackson plays a bond villain in it. Who is upset is McDonald's? Yeah he's obsessed zest with being a billionaire and having everything super clean but his favorite food in the world are big MACs so weird list. He's got the super list and he's he's like Oh the dinner of kings and it's all because it sounds to. Yeah and they have more Campbell in it for like a little bit and the second movie is about them saving Elton John Wall and then they bring back Colin firth from the first and so this third one is a prequel to set up the whole Universe of the gentlemen of how how that That secret societies yeah The second one also Oh has introduced the Americans the American division which is basically cowboys. Yeah what's his name. I was going to play. Gambit channing. Tatum yeah he is one of the cowboys in the nave. Get One plays clue you and Tron legacy. Yeah Dude Dude. Yeah Okay Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah rivers name so in England. The they're the king's men in the states that the statesman that's the okay. And they they. They're secret identity cowboys cowboys basically. It's it's hilarious. It's what if men in black was was about the super spies. Okay so there were better. Yeah it is honestly it's worth watching Put that on your list of things. If you just want to have a feel-good day is watch those movies. There's hilarious and they are. They are really are rated like really like I was joking or exaggerating Michael. When the plot of the first they also have chips where they oh they'd have to everybody connected to the Internet Internet? Yeah there's there's a bunch of a bunch of Hilarious Gore I'll say that and cannibals in the lady with the what is it the lady the or the dude that has RAZOR BLADE LEGS The lady. So the next movie says September twenty fifth as many saints of Newark. I have no idea what that is. But don't care don't care and then last night and so don't care a trailer for October and again. These are going to be a lot more announced but October death on the Nile. I don't know what that is except that it looks to be a poor movie. Looks like a sequel to murder on the Orient. That came out last year for which I heard good things about because Kenneth Branagh sure if he wants to be the Grocer Halloween kills. I haven't seen the last Halloween though. Oh it was really good. I was genuinely surprised by in a basically wipes all of Halloween nudie except the first one so okay so it'll be cool then. The snake is movie. which was the GonNa GonNa Happen? Well not to mention this. This might be a little outdated this even those newer info graphic. The talk was that it's no longer a snake is that it is a full on gi. Joe If that's going to happen rock has to be on it or channing. Tatum one of the two so I would assume that that gets pushed till next spring. The dead now they'll reboot it. Yeah it'll be a new continuity because it can be anybody in the snake suit as laws are good martial arts. They wanted wanted to make any money. It has to have the rock though. He's the he's the only thing that anchored the last film I liked how they had Joke Olsen Be Bruce Willis. Yeah I don't know what's the witches is about so your mind and say hi budget remake of the role dull movie from the early early nineties. That had ANJELICA Huston. which do you remember that movie? Cool do yeah where she has the turning into like rap people the scary as hell but it looks to be the main which is no longer indelicate. Houston it's Anne hathaway could be astonishing because I find her very attractive and I'll be disturbed if I still find her attractive after all the makeup gets put on who to turn her into an evil rat. which but that should be interesting because it's been a while since we've had a role doll adaptation? That was good because I'm not gonNA count the Weird Charleen chocolate factory movie That's all they have for October. So you know there's GonNa be more horror films coming out. Although Halloween will probably be the number one movie like that month I think saw supposed a post. Come out this year. Maybe it is. Isn't that main made by Chris. Rock somebody thinks so something like that. Why not complete? There's actually a lot of blood house Pictures and a lot of stuff produced by Jordan peele that haven't shown up on these lists because they don't have definitive dates. The one movie. I'M GONNA say early in the year ear that we wasn't on this list that I think will make a lot of people's less is the remake of fantasy island which is being remade as a pure horror film by Jordan. Feel that will that will. Probably it'll be cool now November so we have the turtles that that has a hard date. I know that that's that's for sure coming out. This is a marvel the movie that I don't know how it's going to do because the turtles if they're a very interesting race of characters in the marvel universe they're basically gods. Now we're less there. This isn't that terrible. Oh I'm thinking of that terrible when that was canceled after one episode aired heard a TV show. Yeah you're thinking of the in humans internals Canada reeves right no you're thinking of something out. There was talk of him. Being in it edge Angelina. Jolie's it. Yes so what they're going to do at this one It'll be interesting to see how this ties into marvel face four th but then again. I didn't expect guardians of the Galaxy to work so I have to trust the house of Marvel the House of ideas. The see what happens here but We'll see I guess. Looking at the casting engineer initially as Thana China Richard Madden as Congress Kumail Nangiani who you would know from Stupor. I guess as King Well he's also Johnny when God's Snow Plays the Black Knight Oh is that looking at other names on on here Selma Hayek Senate as Jock and that's it. I don't recognize any other names. Yeah all I know. Is Jon snow. You don't be surprised if we reuse reveal or some cameo or something because he's popping up everything good right now so they could use some of that I don't know like I have this is that's a series. I had no knowledge of so. I'm going to go in blind. I don't WanNa read anything about. Ah I know very little because I read some comics in the nineties with the eternal because they tied into the Infinity Garland somehow. But we'll see what happens like like. I said this is all going to die in the marvel phase four who. I'm still predicting the big bad to be a nihilist or GLAC this. Or cain the conqueror so we'll see next to something called stillwater. which looks like Jason Bourne? I guess I don't mind you know idea a a lot. Although an another movie I don't think is good. I think this movie got pushed again. Is Godzilla vs Kong. Because I've heard nothing about it like I know it's supposed to happen. I haven't heard anything about if being production or being shot or nothing so either feeling this. This particular month is really add. A date and a lot of these are subject to moving. Another one's called red notice. I think I've seen something on this but I'm not one hundred percent. Sure looking up right now because it's bugging me Raya and the last dragon looks cool. Don't know anything about it but it looks like a red notice. I just looked it up. I am to be listed as twenty. Twenty one yes. I think some of these even though like their tentative dates. That's right like they're like okay. Q four twenty twenty maybe January sort of. Yeah because this still has uncharted and uncharted. Just lost its director like yesterday. Yeah so it's one of those things where things are really going to be iffy over the next few months but like Gulliver's Kong might still come out if they've already been working on the C. G. for a while 'cause it's the Kong team working on it and as soon as they wrapped production on Godzilla King of the monsters. That team went to work on it as well so it already had half the team in pre production so I think Dune is supposed to come out in November and I think that will likely make its date your yeah probably know the shooting at now. Yeah true about King Richard Will Smith Movie Will Smith Movies. It's really hard to tell it's going to depend on. How well bad boys choice does? Because he's had a really shoddy track record theaters in the last. What ten years? Yeah last decade is not that I would be surprised if it just gets pulled altogether escape room to i. Don't even know did not escape from one Dounia used you said it makes sense coming to America. That is coming out for sure. They've already. I'm there I'm looking back. Having seen the first one secret. Shame I don't think I've ever seen it. It's really funny really. I see I used to coming to America and Golden Trout mixed up because I used to see clips both shirt. It does doesn't even have a script yet so tom and Jerry. Probably because it's it's Warner animation. And and they would have already had that set pretty stone who who's the voice cast though shouldn't be any voice cast doing it right talks though Tom Talks. And Sodas Jerry. They're not supposed to. I know I know but any see one of the things about Hollywood is if you have an the animated movie you just put famous people in. It doesn't matter whether they can voice actor not GonNa do it like they didn't use them to talk and everybody else's talk around them. Yes but we're not that clever so it has a December twenty third. Release it. Yeah they're they're going all in with this as a Christmas release Khloe Graham Rats playing Ayla. Michael Pain is in it as a guy named terrence Ken Jong's in it. Delaney. Nobody's listed as voice in Thomas Jerry. I'll be surprised if it makes it's release. Here's something. He was originally set for April. Sixteen th two thousand twenty one. It was finished early and pushed pushed up to a December. Release interesting. Okay so I guess. We'll say the director. Is Tim story so so he just fantastic four one and two as well as here right it along. Think like a man. Think like a man to ride along too but he did shaft and this year's shaft. I really liked so. Maybe it'll the okay to say but those are all the ones that were listed as having I guess having dates. It's at the point that this was printed. So there's definitely going to be pictures that we all Wanna see. That aren't listed there but as far as those being the bigger titles that have dates or had dates of your shaping up to be pretty good I don't think comparatively do you think this this will year. Two thousand eighteen was better than than the upcoming year for movies. I think so. I think it might be an off year in most cases because I don't I don't think there's going to be anything that will match endgame. It's just not gonNA. They're not just that there are a lot of just decent and good. Things became the last twelve months. I'm almost thinking that this the twenty twenty it's going to be a TV year and then twenty twenty one will be a movie year. Yeah just twenty twenty one will have the next spiderman movie and that'll be another billion dollar for sure I think even because With video games. Everything's winding down with the exception of Nintendo this year for the current Gen. I feel like twenty twenty is going to be basically a year for Nintendo for gaming a huge year for streaming and television and a so-so to okay year for movies and then twenty twenty. One we're going to have to have our wallets ready because it's going to be really really busy when it comes to the African stuff Plus you know those that do want to upgrade to a new generation of consoles as soon as the pre orders come out put down your five dollars and keep putting twenty bucks a month down so that you're not get hit with a huge bill when it comes out. That's what I'm either going to go to games and trade some stuff or I might do the old get a free Amazon and then every month by like a fifty dollar gift card and added to the the order because I do not like I have a feeling that the both systems are going to be like. Hey Ah we're five ninety nine Canadian or four nine American it'd be like well buck. That's eleven hundred dollars after taxes so I fully predicted 2021 is going to be a lean year as far as our pocketbooks go. Yeah it's going to be an expensive here. It probably will so. I think that about reps this conversation up. I think so. So if you're looking for us around the twitter universe and other social platforms. Where can they find you? Steve They can find me at twenty one or at altered. Geek are a cool if you're looking for me and find me on twitter instagram and facebook usually under Birdman Dodd. I almost always reply almost anytime day or night. Depending thank and Alex where can they find you when it comes to gaming platforms. I'm usually at death phase. That's D. E. H. p. h. e.. I picked that when I was in high school and for once. It's actually a decent name that nobody else used. And as far as social media goes it's death as under store. TWIG or defaced. Week was one word. One of the two will find me on on social media Also find me in the back of this week find me on facebook or if you really having a hard our time contact Bergman. He's everywhere pretty much. So as Steve might say. Get altered. Geeky with the Altar Keith Yeah.

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Carolla Classics: David Cross interview, Mike Rowe and Airbags, Occupy Wall Street Rant

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Carolla Classics: David Cross interview, Mike Rowe and Airbags, Occupy Wall Street Rant

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You'll get a true cash offer sent you in minutes which you can take your local certified truecar dealer the cash it out or you traded in so when you're ready for better car buying experience when a trade in a car when a cash out a car you always go with truecar true cash offer not available in all areas welcome to corolla classics for august twenty fourth two thousand nineteen happy saturday sarwar little late reporting this early saturday morning. I can't wait to share this episode of you. My name's chris locks executive producer of the adam corolla show and that is cruel. Archivist superfan ain't giovanni overlord of the atom kosho cruel archivist and many titles yeah. This is the show where we highlight the greatest moments. It's from the ten plus years of podcasting. Adam corolla has achieved. We're gonna do it right now. Pretty soon be eleven. I know we can close to eleven and we'll have to change my intro for the show not looking forward to our. Let's just good. Let's get going some clips so back in two thousand nine june two thousand and did you just months. After the podcast inception david cross comedian david cross the i know him personally from arrested development. I'm a huge david cross fan a <hes> since mister show in the nineties. I fold all of his entire comedy career and he really didn't have much airtime with adam. I believe he was on too late but that's it there there really earliest anything else that he's done with adam on air and so he came on the podcast on episode one hundred and two from june twenty six two thousand nine and perhaps the dave the greatest this david cross interview overdone <hes> adam mealy jumps in and goes why dump comedian smart comedian which is perfect stuff. He's talked about on air for years about why like mister show is a creative genius and the man show is garbage. It's really people assuming the continent based on the titles there are two of the greatest sketch shows overdone and david gets really thoughtful thoughtful and earnest right off the bat that question and it leads into a deep conversation about his dad abandoning the family so it's a really interesting opening chunk that before they get in a skype calls and <hes> again. It's the best interview david's probably ever done and it's credible that happened on earth adamant. I wasn't expecting this at all. Yeah amicable show one or two david cross check. Yep meets mister show welcome for the first time david cross david. Hello thank you for having me on your couch. You know what i feel like. I feel like i feel like you're one of those smart. Comedians and i'm one of those jack off comedians indians <hes> sounds right and i don't know how i mean. I know how you got to be a smart comedian. I'm not sure how or earned the mantle jack off comedian but look really you have no idea well okay do do a fair amount of humor but i just mean. I think i'm funny yeah yeah well. That doesn't preclude you from being funny about doesn't usually usually and i and i appreciate you thinking i'm smart. I don't think i'm the smart as you're giving me credit for but it doesn't usually the smart stuff is not the funny stuff you know more or seen that way yeah well yeah. Maybe you're right. Come on what movie give us. Give me an idea of some of the comedies that you've enjoyed over the years oh man in lake. I'm a huge animal house. Van probably seeing that i saw that when i was a kid my mama take me because it was rated r. and just just watched the two hour documentary commentary on the making of animal house really didn't last night was just on at an showtime h._b._o. Whatever and it was you know ivan reitman and <hes> you know all the university yeah the twenty fifth or whatever the entire tire can't thirtieth thirtieth anniversary entire cast you you know minus belushi of course all the way through the making of the movie and the beautiful thing about whether it's animal house or the godfather the studio always voice drags their feet and doesn't brando to star in it didn't want blue sheen doesn't want this guy and this guy play rather have jim j. bullock and the belushi roll like you realized when he laid back and that is that for real. I made that that was a smart. Oh man would that be awesome. No i'm just saying every single single movie when they dissect it. You realize the studios are fuckers and they tried to ruin it yeah and it was just herald ramos and ivan even reitman and whoever else that actually pushed it through but then we had the example of a smart and dumb comedy that that that movie the yes that had that was that was a great balance of salt and sugar in the in the comedy department because they'd have the fired the gun and the horse had heart attack and the guy's gonna chainsaw out and he's gonna dismantle alert dismember the horse and then just some great subtle jokes like yeah. I loved it when belushi smashed a guitar and then just went yes sorry great super understated sorry one of the great movie movie lines of all times at least in my semi racist mind is when she said what's your major one primitive cultures and then went right to ya yeah right at otis day going to pop and he's sweaty in the light coming through his hair yeah. Where's your favorite animal house jokes. I i love the the guy coming over same scene where he's like. Excuse me does you mind if we dance with your dates and then a the hand comes up now not great and then and then cutting to them the girls walking back and i thought he was kind and then it's just jokes about dumb girls you know and otis. My man was a good one. The look at otis shot was was a good one. I love just the inane john belushi board at the end of the party. I'm gonna dump this whole thing of mustard on my chest. Just for no good reason all good. I mean the whole thing about super double secret probation and you know sorry and <hes> and also the wendy when donald sutherland peter rieger realizes that <hes> karen allen is sleeping with the right donald southern professor and then he goes and he gets something from the top top-shelf and his sweater lifts and see naked ass. She didn't <hes> i don't wanna step on the dock for you but <hes> karen allen did not want to do. The naked ass really seen said no no no naked ass and sutherland said i'll show my ass. If you show your ass and so right man or wait a minute who directed it no reitman produced it and landis john landis said look you know if this guy show his ass. He's one of the grades you gotta show your ass so she showed her acts but sutherland had to show his ass before she would show her ass. Yeah good good documentary a great movie nice mixture of everything and you realize when you watch the movie and that's what i love about every great invention every great movie every <unk> great sitcom every great design when it's in the design phase how they don't know what they have so the executives are saying this never never got to work and cast and they didn't you know the whole movie was <hes> with belushi and sutherland aside really was all no names so so picture all the chevy chase in the auditor yeah think about that's the studio wanted to put a bunch of recognizable faces in there and think how much it would have fucked it up absolutely you if you were watching moving on martin is otter. I are whatever the hell yeah. I love it when tour fmins picture came up on the slide number and start throwing beer at it or was that flounder whoever the yeah flounder whoever just i just love the little beanie on the ten gallon had and what's the what's the one line that kenny had one of the writers like something something. You've more retarded moron yeah who by the way if you watch the documentary died yeah and hawaii life fell off fell off a cliff. I remember bruin that happened. It was because i was starting to end. We'll houses sort of the beginning of defining comedy for me you know and and realizing that oh my thing is comedy. You know sort of in that stage. I was probably fifteen years old when it came out fourteen. My mom had to take me the theater because it was rated r. but you're back in what city this is <hes> georgia roswell and your mom dad together now now split they divorced and your mom's doing what besides taking you super-poor we were really really. My dad left us in in debt and we didn't have a car. We didn't have a t._v. We were staying at this shitty apartment complex roswell georgia just on the on the good graces of the guy not kicking us out we we just been evicted from the prior apartment complex which was one of the most <hes> <hes> as a kid wouldn't be different much different now but as a kid was one of the most like traumatizing events because <hes> i got got picked up at the bus stop i was i was just turned ten and got picked up at the bus stop by one of her neighbors and he starts is telling me that you know. It's usually just walk home. It's less than a mile and should coming home from school coming home from school yeah elementary school and <hes> <hes> and he's starts saying stuff like he picks up me and my sisters and he started saying stuff like <hes>. I can't remember what he said but it was all really odd like it. Was you know vague kind of so. Everything's gonna be okay. I mean he's got less than five minutes to sort sort of break the ice with happening and clearly my my mom and dad sent him up together. <hes> is they're dealing with this stuff and so it was just on and data together at this at this point yeah but still get affected yeah yeah well. My dad was kind of a <hes> he was he wasn't he was a <hes>. I hesitate to say conman because that connotes kind of a calculated griffin oh you mean but he's not he was just a liar liar and a scammer friends then having like an i you know he didn't have a fake identity or these plans like guy who who breaks oban payphone and steals changes a thief and so's an international jewel thief but you wouldn't wanna be wouldn't want to lump those two guys together right right. You know we haven't had never had a real plan. He rain. We moved constantly when i was a little kid and we got we're very poor and we got kind of bumped from place to place and a lot of a lot of this i didn't realize until i was in my late teens. My sister and i sort of all the stuff together and you you come home. The neighbor drives you home. The apartment in the apartment first of all the all the neighbors are gathered outside and one good thing about poor people's their home during the day they can gather you know what i mean like when they rest the fifteen year old black kid comes running out beating the concer the person it's noon on tuesday. It's like everyone's home port. My mom was home to all day so if she had happened and we could all gather a deal like hey. Why don't you get a job job job. We might not be around if she began top arrest. My teenage son who's going to run out there and beat him slipper. If i'm off at work use your head. Even though it's two thirty in the afternoon and weekday everyone is now congregated on the lawn of the apartment very interesting observation yeah and yeah and there was as i said we we were in this shitty apartment complex and so there are a lot of latchkey kids up and <hes> <hes> but everybody's out there and they're taking stuff from the a. and they were taking stuff and throwing hit on not violently throwing but really not gingerly orally. You're getting the shit out of the apartment yeah. It's like that scene from roger. Turn me where they were. The big black guy goes up to the house and he tells them you gotta get you clear it out of here by the way could there be a worse gig. You know the people that do like the repo guy yeah. We po a repo. At least you're dealing with a pickup truck once in a while you're dealing with the owner if he wakes up and sees out there with the slim jim but the guy the eviction guy you're dealing with human beings and their kids yeah and it might be raining outside. I don't think it's not just a once a month gig. That's right you five days a week nine hours a day i i would have to do i do one day a year and then the other three hundred and sixty four in therapy take abandoned one take silkwood shower rape shower than silkwood shower then therapy then that's what i told me last then i would affect the family and then back to that rape shower and back to be the best you'd be the best why be fresh and ready to go so you're getting vic did and you just bouncing around your poor and your dan eventually just cuts out yeah we the next apartment a complex we went to mike the thing that my dad had a which was <hes> in arguable was he was very charming interesting from england he would kick up his accent when right right to right he was very outgoing jokey kind of very and not very smart not like book smart at all but the opposite of my mom who was very intellectual actual and kind of mousy he i grew up with a fair amount of these guys in the valley which is a lot of charisma not a lot of brain's not a lot talent certainly no drive no drive real good bullshit artists absolutely some oftentimes good looking or just had kind of it and they all had the sort of peter japan syndrome dad elliott's off everyone ladies when you've got god why south hot chick with fucking lose because at losers peter pan and he's figured out got a way to talk her out of her. That was my dad i i didn't you know come to <hes> the truth about my dad <hes> partly because i was ignorant and partly because i sort of kept myself from it until i was eighteen years old and i still had kind of a worshiping tipping thing towards him and i went to a live with him in phoenix arizona when i was in it was about fifteen and and you know we lived in this motel room this shitty awful the place that i realized we were getting sleeping in the same bed and we had no money had no job either get fired he just he did this a lot like all through since i've you know knowing him. The kind of proud indignant like i'm not gonna work for a guy expects me do this. I'm not gonna do that. You know that kinda shit so then we have no job he'd have no job we'd have no money no food we literally vending machine candy because he knew a vending machine supplier for a while seriously it and it was nuts and we were sleeping in the same shitty little motel you know today. Do you see him. Ever relate. I have there was is a specific incident. That made me say i'm never talking to you again and that was when i was nineteen and i have we. He lives in new york in new york. I live in new york. He lives in new york. I've never seen in my sister has often been in touch with them and and always has great great stories. He knows what do she now. He's he's but he's also an opportunist. Yes and he sees you on t._v. Now now and you know it's like i always say about my family which is look. You don't save any money for college. You don't go to any pop corner football games. You're not very generally supportive. You don't do too much for your kids. You roll the dice in most of the time it works out except for once in a while your kid gets a fucking morning. Show calls his day the pussy on it every morning and then you fuck up but it was a good plan. You did save. I mean a hundred hundred one out of one hundred times. It doesn't work with the other ninety nine times. You just don't have to pay for college or go to any chevy literally games at work adam. I've always said about that because people oh you know who aren't in the situation tend to have the kind of like you know touchy feely hippyish like oh you can't just the hatchet or you know and it's like look. This is the one family it's and it's not even about vengeance or revenge engine anything but the one thing i get to do for he he was a terrible father. You know <hes> <hes> completely absent had all these affairs just <hes> really self absorbed selfish guy with kids who brought kids up and thought i imagine was like you know what might be interesting as having kids learn what that's like and then after might be interesting thing not pulling out yeah. That's probably the genesis of it and then later turned into. I wonder if we had kids but but you know it's like so he does all that the one thing the only thing in my power to do to to let him know that that's not cool is to completely disassociate myself with them. It's like no you don't get to have me as a friend how you don't get to try as he tried <hes> not really but through my sister's may kind of noises about <hes> <hes> you know like knowing that we're both in the same city and <hes> but he's he's completely turned into something else. Guys like that have a lot of pride because it's like the guy who eats out of a vending machine and can't hold a job down for more than ten minutes and can't afford an air mattress. I kid off and motel. Has that kind of pry. Absolutely always always makes me laugh the guy sick. I'm too proud to do really proud. You're driving a piece of shit. You're it's just got you. You have four warrants out for your rest. Go ahead much more than ten minutes pride so i came out to phoenix with guitar and i had a some stuff some stuff from my gotten for my bar mitzvah like a jade <hes> star of david necklace on a gold change shit like that and the and screams rocker guitar and the star david eight gold neck and a big ju dorky glasses with tape around them but so so anyway i brought this stuff out there suming sumptious going to live my dad and everything and it was really hard leaving my sisters and my mom and stuff and georgia and why did you and why. How did your mom not go. Hey man because i was. I was in fifth dylan and you're you can't tell a fifteen year old. You think you're striking out on scottish dad thing and i hated heated. Georgia hated hated. I lived in the sticks and in roswell which is now connected to atlanta. It's all one big. You know. Oh mask sprawling thing like l._a. But back then when i was growing up it was the woods and the creek and you know i it. Wasn't you know there were people who grew up there who never went in the the city and i hated it. Especially as i got older and <hes> <hes> just wanted some culture and so i mean there's all these crazy stories in my dad but anyway get there. He's just not ready or willing in any way to have a a kid there even though he told me to come out it's great you know and he has no job describes the only reason we were staying in that motel place was because he was fucking the landlord's wife which check found out who has this nasty alcoholic bottle blonde nasty woman and found that later so then so then he's got no he's got. He's out of money. He's run out of favors. We were saying in somebody's house at one point just friends of friends and they don't know who i am they that was part of the bargain oregon and and you know he's just run out of options and people the ripoff so i remember him. Sitting allure at a bar arne was at this bar and it's like noon and he just gave me like five bucks in quarters. Go play the pinball machine well. He looks for a job bob deep within the bottom of beer and and so he's like all right well. Let's go back. You really miss your mom and your sisters. I can tell this is really bummed me out and i don't want to keep you here. This whole thing any made me believe it like oh you're right. I do want to go back home right because he had no options and so we get one of those drive away cars cars. We we leave under the cover of <hes> you know making sure nobody's air because he does all this money and go to a pawnshop pawns all my stuff everything. Everything ponds my stuff so we'd have to do everything look at me. Look at in our on your bar mitzvahs yet and no and i'm not joking not exaggerating we arrived arrived in back in roswell with a nickel nickel and quarter of a tank of gas left and he dumped you off or moved back back in he moved back in my mom was really bummed out but she was so happy to have me back because i didn't tell her i was coming back. I'd i knocked on the door and she opened in k. <hes> i forgot my sweatshirt learned freaked out rose my big joke and my dad crashed there and then eventually i gave my dad because i was so psyched to have my dad back in atlanta. He moved into the city in an apartment i gave him. He told me not to tell anybody gave him all my permits money that i hadn't savings account gave it to him so that and he could that he could get to put a don't. Tell me that motherfucker hawk your high. Why just one say hawk and hot in the hawked your guy well i had no. I had no idea about you in your past and i first first off. It's refreshing to hear it. You grow up with the narrative. Well dad was at number one yeah yeah and a number two one thing i love about this business is is you talk to people whose dance were investment bankers and dentists and lawyers and you talk to people whose dads ran whore houses and we're <unk> junkies and yet they're all seem to be in the same business trash. Man doesn't work that way not like well. My dad had a big law firm or my dad ad was a broker on wall street and i'm a trash man. It was like my dad was a trash man and i'm a trash man. Comedies is one of the weird business where everyone's dad either did nothing or or something or rich or poor educated. I mean i've talked to some guys whose dads were. Some of the most highly educated richest guys in the world got into comedy comedy and i've talked to comedians dan complete and utter fucking bombs and they got into comedy. I'm trying to think of another profession. Maybe air traffic controller we did it will draw from every pool. Well you know part of that is comedy is an adjunct of you've you know arts and expression and you know people have gone through you know. I don't know what it's like to be mega rich but i i'm. I'm not ignorant enough to think that oh they don't have any problems of course not enough eighties movies to know where the rich roommate brings the poor roommate home for the a holiday to realize how much hey shit at the end of each table at some point personally dress for dinner point. The guy leans over and says. I think you've had enough when she's pouring the wine. I'll tell you when i've had enough and you could tell rich people miserable to sorry not for the arts. Do we have yards arts and now it's david cross on the adam corolla sitting one on one with adam corolla. What a great conversation. He actually came back on the podcast for another episode. It's re- it's also really good. It's just not as deep as this one and if you wanna check out those older episodes including one we just played or the other david cross episode podcast one premium the homeowner fair podcast you go back through the entire archive attempts years and final clips. We play the entire episode. Listen to the rest of it. I highly recommend you listen up so david cross yeah. It's all there all right now. Let's go back again. Two thousand nine a little over a month after the podcast started when del middlebrooks came in now he is best known as the miller highlife guy from all the commercials <hes> he was in rhode hard the scene where us cleaning used buffing the floors atom walks in he goes hey shuman a true story by the way which we can play <hes> <hes> talking about that actually happening to me on the future cruel classics the and so he came in two thousand nine. He was hired for adams pilot and he sat down. We've got bags world this episode of thirty four april two thousand nine when they'll middlebrooks adam cruel show thirty four recipe's window. Thanks for jordan mean yet. Another podcast my guest today wendell middlebrook whose window middlebrook well. I'll tell you who he is. He's the guy from the miller high life commercials. The big ball goes in and steals not only the beer but the scene and he's going to play my best buddy in my upcoming c._b._s. Sitcom and we thought it'd be a good idea to get to know him on the air. I appreciate you have a meal. I feel horrible because you know when we were riding the sitcom we were writing. My buddy is david alan career. Who is my body <hes> and we were we're gonna look at some people for the role of my buddy but it was pretty much just going to give it to david alan grier and at the last moment my buddy who i wrote the pilot with kevin hench said you know that guy from the miller highlife commercials and all the chicks and gay guys in the room and that was everyone but kevin said no and we said that's right because they play him during football games and you don't watch football so so it's so funny you can tell you can just tell the demographic so none of the checks none of the casting. The people and nobody knew the commercial. We're talking about but we're like the miller highlife commercial where the bald guy the husky bald guy goes in with with the hand truck and steals all the beer way and he said guys really funny and i said yeah those spots are really funny. And how many have you done by the way we just just finished another round of five which makes fifteen fifteen so there's the one where you go to the sky box you go to the restaurant we do the tailgate and then with with the ones we just now. That'll be coming out soon like we're doing horse race right yeah so we're moving through so we were like i said to my buddy hand show. I wrote this with with only yeah. The spots are really funny. Guys really funny and it's in. It's one of those things where the spots themselves are are solid but you definitely make it. I the thing and so i said yeah we should definitely give that guy looks but this is still david alan grier role you and then when del came in and blew everyone away and i don't know how you do that when you audition because i've done three or four additions sucked sucked so goddamn horribly that i could never do it again and just said i'd better write a pilot otherwise i'll never be a pilot but window came in there hit a home run and then we're like disguise pretty good and then i had to have the horrible uncomfortable conversation with david alan grier are the day you know he they all came to net test for network and they liked david but when dell blue the network out of the water when he laughed everyone just looked at each other and said that's your new best friend and they said call your real buddy david alan grier and and breaking the news and then there's that shit where they go you gotta do it and i'm always like why do i got it. Why can't we use a carrier pigeon or something. Oh man they told you to well. Everyone says look your person for that job. Oh no they will do it. They're going to do it but he. I also needs to hear from you and he was in aspen. He's the only black guy in aspen at the time the only allow one black in at a time i but when the one guy one guy left and they let him in and they couldn't get hold of him they would have told him on monday when he got back but as his friend brand. I needed to call them up. Of course we did that thing where he didn't pick up a cell phone and i did the sort of noncommittal dag call me back all right right buddy and then he called back and miss me and eventually i had to tell them window. Middlebrook is my new best friend. Oh oh man. I know that puts you in the heart well. I'm happy to be playing your best friend. I think i think this is going to work on and off the screen in this. I got a great vibe on you. You good people man so. I'm excited about this now. I have no idea how old you are. We were all trying to gas gas. I really there's the heavy set in the black screw screw up. Everyone's compass no seriously. If you see a skinny <music> super skinny white chick you go and someone goes how all this chick you go fifty three years four months eleven days nine harrison four minutes but when you see like a heavy black chick like she could be one thousand nine hundred or hundred six like i don't know not that i know chick really but i swear to god if you told me you were twenty eight. I'd go okay and if you said ed you're forty three. I'd go okay and i don't think i don't know any skinny white people. I can say that about okay you said so. I have a big range that would you say i am saying if if somebody said he needed to play a forty year old you'd go fine if he needs to play twenty six year old. I'd say bring a razor and cast it. Thank you so oh. How old are you. I'm thirty thirty just turned thirty in january jesus <hes> see now. You're supposed to be my best friend and i'm forty four which choosing we can't be old essence if you wanna call it that you do and f._a._a. Certified where you're from is from the south or from so oh how did how did the journey work for you because it seems like any been windows been on the tonight show based on you know this as done a bunch of shows it was but but the ad campaign is such a phenomenon that you normally when you do a commercial you don't you don't do the tonight show so it's pretty cool for you yeah but now what what was your journey. How did it work for you. You will journey from house in high like it yeah. I like the whole thing all right. I'll give you the rundown from fort worth texas born erase. <hes> and i knew in high school that i wanted to act now. I also knew i wanted to go to college so i went to school in kansas <hes> sterling college which is in in the middle of the wheatfield. What did your parents do <hes> my at the time. My mom used to work for a computer company so she was on an assembly line. You know what i mean and then my dad has always he's worked with computers right i for the city of fort worth and then he moved out to e._d._s. and then now he works with his own company. What's about the guys right and so yeah so nobody in my family into acting in you know in high school. You're an acting yeah because i went to high school in fort worth that have majors. I went in as business law major. We had major scale. Yes you want to know what my major was. What was ceramic. How's it going well. It's pretty much like this you you suck at math. That's being stuck in english with suck at history and you're one of the few students who failed driver's ed not driver's training driver's ed you also by the way in the same semester failed biology so what's left laughed on this list of things. You haven't fucked up yet. So it looks like you gotta you. Gotta see you you and ceramics. How about we choose that as your major and to the the <hes> the pinch pot. I went narrative yeah well. How's it going. Oh man i don't know if i could assign a dollar amount or pussy the amount that i hold down through my ceramic education like whether when i walk into a bar i start talking to chicks you know the difference between a slab pot coyle pod whether it felt spar is baby. Oh man the pani start flying the cert making it rain in their man. Money's everywhere aware paintings ever nonstop pussy party. Why you stay with the resource i was set. I set for life this whole comedy thing. This is a hobby you you know 'cause i bought and paid for done by age twenty five yeah literally a millionaire by twenty-five because what ceramics ceramics what am i gonna do a manager color me. Mine didn't even exist back then what you know if that's what you wanna do me mind. I colori mind came along fifteen years after i came out of high school but alleged you were you you decide to take theaters major yeah. I was business law and i they didn't work because i hated accounting stupid like i was stupid in it. I hated the class right so i decided i wanted to do that and so i got a scholarship to undergrad which was in kansas right and so when they're small wheatfield college <hes> spit my four and a half years there then i came out here my senior year here and did an internship in industry with the los angeles film study center and invest what like intern for cast and director and just see what's with the horde and put it behind making noise by the way hilton sank you anyone who has any kind of life in them at all makes makes feedback yet because you obviously window came in and he nailed it and the thing about the audition process is it's really really nerve wracking. It's really tough a lot of people who are good actors. Fuck up the audition and never get to act so it's it's difficult because this is a tough thing coming in front of everybody you know and you're hoping to give your best and you obviously seem like you knew how the process worked. I mean you seemed like you'd been there air done that. You didn't see flustered or phased by the whole thing well. The thing is first of all. I was thankful for good writing. That's always a start. What what i mean yeah solid. I guess the beats whatever you wanna call it the comedies there but i like to think how i connect what's our connection <hes> and and that's what i came in was to tell that story and you have to throw the other stuff out the window. You know what i mean like. All the nerves like what we worked on. We had to work sessions we did did that's coming in. There is just i want to live in that moment and that's what right that's how at least that's how i see. The work session is what you do once. Yes you find the three or four guys you like before you then take them to network been in opening experience for me. I never done work session. The thing that's funny is this is once you start doing the work session then you realize even though this guy's auditioning for the gig he's still twice as good as you are. Don't even though i have the gig i've said two thousand times i would never get this gig if i had to come in and audition for but so window comes in hits a home run that part we know but i'm still back. Not you move into los angeles. Okay you come out here. And what do you start interning. I do an internship and that's just for the fall of my senior year so i still have to go back and graduate right so i do that but what i learned being out here was the casting workforce. They sent me down and they were kind of like so. You know we'll help you. In any way we can to get started almost done and all that which i appreciate but the thing that i learned from internship was i need some more training or some more time to figure again what i'm doing right and so i went to grad school and went to fund and got a masters in acting messenger fine arts in acting any like shakespeare alright shakespeare and you really learned the craft and then you came back and now you just start going on auditions once i graduated. We did showcase from u._c._l._a. So i came out you know representation and all that and then just kinda start working little by little you know little co stars and then of course there turned into guest stars yeah how long before the whole miller thing hit about a year and a half so <hes> the now your age twenty six or something like that yeah ah so you didn't you didn't have many years of struggling in this town no like i. I'm very thankful that when i came out i kind of came out and in the first thing i looked like sketch comedy stuff on weekends at the deal right and once i did that it kinda just started going and then i started doing co stars and stuff and i still had the day job and stuff. Oh but what was your what was the day job. The first day job was for yankee doodles on the third street promenade. I was there promo person up and down the prominent and pass out fliers. Yeah then things are feudals just a restaurant. Yes like a sports bar right right on the prominent and then <hes>. I turned into their video a d._j. Really nice at work. They bring a machine and you just play music. Videos are night on thursday fridays and saturdays and get the goal and as you're tipping involve because jobs like this it sound cool that don't involve tipping. Don't pay shit. I've learned well. They involved tipping but also organize it. I'm working. You can make good money doing that twenty to twenty five dollars an hour really yeah. You know you go work for five hours good for night. I you know i always got pissed. Ask because i was a carpenter for many years not always the most i ever made was like fifteen bucks an hour and i always got pissed at these hot little twenty two year old waitresses that we're making forty fifty bucks an hour cocktail and getting all the big tips were four or five hours swabs busing. I'm driving a truck with tools and a bed box walks in a lumber rack and i'm reading blueprints and all this shit he sticks to shake in their ass and making a bunch of money. I always hated people that had jobs that got that had less training joining and got paid more and less work the <hes> going on dates and having guys pick up their dinner and whatnot yeah going on dates you. I know how you you wanna know what does kill it is for chick like when you pick her up in a pickup truck and it's a it's a bench seat meet with no headdress. I mean literally. Your head raises the glass behind you mini pickup truck. I remember picking up chicks for dates. I had a i had a mazda a pickup truck that had done. He stopped me. If i'm line it had the guy who had pulled out the bench seats in put barstools in where they were just the the top of the barstools in so there were sort of bucket seats but it was like the beverly hillbillies oh man and then the window crank was busted did so i had to use the payer vise grips to get the thing up and i had to bump start the thing by running it jumping in and popping it into second year like mcgraw. Oh my family you know that's my grandfather. It was like yeah dumping dumping sand into a woman's vagina right up to go be jackson awesome when they saw me pull up with the lumber rack or log bear clean clean then happening though thank you oh yeah it is so it is so yeah not a lot of call back action on that. Is that what you're saying now. He passed away in two thousand fifteen and adams of nice things about him on air so we'll play down on the future kurla classics to definitely show yeah. Just what a what a great town. I've seen the pilot. He was great else yeah. I i'll you'll see t._j. I have ways he will be missed all right moving on before we get to the next clip just reminder this friday portland or wilsonville oregon to be more specific world of speed motorsports museum. Adam is doing a live car cast their with mario. Mario andretti him myo andretti and good mattie andrea. We'll be taking the stage. We'll have a blast and press the flesh with the ace man getting to the next clip. This is a listener request. It's from sash sash rights or josh is like sasha chauffeur sasha anyway sash rights. Hey guys big fan of baseman universe from germany here yes that germany and love to hear adams rant about air air bags full of i think i heard during one of his live shows totally hilarious. Oh and please see more things. Please bring back to germany or florida game and tell adam. He needs to come back to europe to show over here again. Thanks guys love your girl classics podcast sash what we got from adam karol show thirteen twenty eight not the original time they talked about the air bags which was up so ten fifty four this is the live show in west in that sashes requesting is featuring micro alison rosen and brian bishop may of two thousand fourteen live from the san francisco palace of fine arts boosters revisited. Check it out. I i was saying you guys. <hes> tell me what you think. We're driving here from the airport a couple hours ago. Thank you no-one no-one. No-one related to me thank you we were driving from the airport and we're going through the city and we're stopped at the crosswalk and there was a woman who is crossing in front of our s._u._v. who was texting and walking and actually leaning backwards. I didn't know you could walk leaned back about forty degree. 'til her feet were four feet in front of her. She was texting and she was walking in front of five thousand thousand pound vehicles made of steel in vulcanized rubber and i said to alison everybody should get hit by a car just once early just fucking once. I'm not talking about run over. I'm talking about clipped between the age of six and eleven just clipped good loyd. I think you said seven and a half well. They can prime spot seven and a half just kissed that fender one good time but it's not watches for them right. You've got the whole city. It's not for him at all. I want to get everyone moving. I don't wanna see people crossing crossing the street like lemmings they seriously look defeat were four feet out in front of her and she was buried her in her cross across the street twenty seconds before she did. Oh yeah oh yeah definitely got to wherever wherever she was going to much much much long before she got there and it's like all we need is that little fear where you get clipped one time and then people would cross the street like illegals sneaking into the country shoulder rolls and diving into mailboxes in the dead of night in the dead of night that's going to it happened in this town. Adam absolutely certainty that what you want is going to come to pass. I just want them to be eye-to-eye with their femur. Just just just for just a few short seconds before good samaritan resets at age seven and a half and from that point on its left right left again then right left left again then right left and then they sprint across the street with purpose. That's all i want. That's all i want i don't did you guys feel like when you cross a street. You ran across the street. When you're a kid for your life man yes but did you see today. Was that a part of beta breakers. Do you have ebony idea well. No no no. We saw those folks guys that were dressed young republicans. They were just like the girl from the blind melon video yes. That's all that's all. They're dress that they were all dressed like the girl from the blind melon video. Can i ask you guys a question questions. Since you're the elder statesman of the stage and i'm sure you probably remember a time before everyone was on their phone all the time what was crossing the street like then people had big wax cylinders they would be spinning and winding up there. Victor olas pushing them on iron car with donkey falling calling him. That's the whole point you back. In the day crossing. The street was an activity. It wasn't something i don't think you were doing while you're a texting. It's something you were doing like driving. Was something you were doing. I was just i was on. It's in my book. Actually thank you president me. I said and i stand by this. I think we're getting too complacent behind the wheel because we have the crumple-zones owns and there's fifteen airbags and side impact this and that and you're sort of driving like you can't get hurt but the same things happening with the passengers because now were the passengers. What do you call him. The pedestrian stand there and they wait for the light to say it's okay to cross and then they look for the crosswalk and if everything's in line they walk and that's when a guy like you comes along and a car you drive with defender described to take some right. That's what i'm saying. I said this when when i'm in charge because of like i said all all the safety all the air bags all the crumple-zones everyone just sort of drifts off when they're driving get into an accident you get into an accident your belt that in with an air bag i said ed every tenth car comes off the assembly line. The airbag should be filled with moose jin's which means you fuck and focus when you were driving ironically named ford focus like you'd be driving your head on a swivel. I'm just saying if or just had a prussian helmet you know where instead of the airbag the prussian helmet came out into your sternum accidents would go down fifty seven percent like you just be driving like you meant it. You're talking about consequences consequences. That's that's when when i was uninsured and had a no proof of anything if i got pulled over essentially get pepper sprayed and zip tied and and then dragged in somewhere i drove very cautiously now fully insured. I drive like an asshole imagine finding the person and helping them out of the accident accident scene. The person whose car was filled with ms ges yeah well first off that would be you just be praying for the one in ten that got got into the rear end collision with the moose chaz on there and just pulling them out of the car that yes that would be that would be awesome. Would it be an airbag that worked the bill. That's pretty clear your life would be safe. Make you to be humiliated. Yes you would obviously those impregnated. If you're a moose that's right and if your kids are in the back seat and child the child seats time they learn a valuable lesson with their second hand moves poo cocky. When you see your parents covered with the sperm of another species it sticks celebrating. I remember if it was yesterday when i walked in and my dad was covered with the sperm of another species and just how it was a a seminal moment for me in my life when the innocence and the laughter died that's right that's right. It's like that don henley song so animas incredible inventor that there's a lot of inventions by favorite part of the ace awards replay play was when they have the inventions category every time they do what he does this a cancer last year. What does it is this a new one done before adam. We've done it three years in a row all right moving on now that was a request from sash and if you would like to request a clip let me tell you how easy it is get on that computer pewter iphone android whatever email us classics adam corolla dot com or tweet us at giovanni giorgio at chris locks in montana instagram facebook. Let us know what you want to hear and we'll find it. We'll play it and we'll share it with the world. It's amazing. I reading your tweets right now because we were putting this podcast up late at m._l._p. C._p._a. Says we need the curl. The classic spot as sap at roth five one seven. I i need my classics ashtray so guys. I'm seeing tweets. It's common. I guess it's here in africa. What's this all right. This is another email requests from fran and fran writes the bit that got me onto the corolla. Podcast was original occupy wall street tirade arrayed. I don't if you've done it. I just miss it but if not i'd love to hear it again. Thanks for the show still listed on weekends. It's nice to have great stuff to listen to while i'm trimming the hedges a hope. That's literally anyway. Fran gardens leave her alone. We have not played the occupy wall all street tirade. It is epic. We're gonna play right now and girl show six seventy eight featuring duff mccague alison rosen brian bishop this from the new segment. This is october october twenty eleven. It's the first occupy rant with a tanning salon news story. That's akin to the underage waxing riff which i found very funny and i thought we'd leave it in so so check out both clips right alison one more news story before we wrap it up and now the rest of the news with alison rosen honey west and al sharpton dropped by the occupy wall street protests today and mayor michael bloomberg doc told the demonstrators. They are free to stay as long as they want. He said quote the bottom line. Is people want to express themselves. That's just good marrying. You guys is hang out and shit in the park. As long as you like don't worry about it was like a mayor slash host <hes> which bentley kanye pull up in or did he take take the priests this protest one test bentley and and bloomberg went on to say as long as they obey the laws will so you guys are here to to be you can say as long as you want people want to express themselves and as long as they obey the laws will allow them to if they break the laws dead. We're gonna do it. We're supposed to do enforce the laws yeah and then. He said that he thinks that that part of the reason people have stayed so long is because of the weather it's good sleet. Good sleet storm break up that policy and al sharpton broadcast his radio show from the scene and he said quote we are here today because we agree. One percent should not be controlling the the nation's wealth. These are regular people trying to feed their families trying to pay their rent and mortgage is trying to survive and then also other movements all over the country. There's there's occupied fort collins occupy fort myers occupy fort worth nine just four cities how about yawkey pie fucking name tag and a vest and get a gig that would it'd be my that's my i would like to occupy a hairnet and name tag and get a fucking job and start paying some god damn taxes this whole thing can be distilled down to the bathroom room. Which is i want. These guys all have to use the bathroom but they go to burger king and they want to use the bathroom and then the shitting up the toilet but they're not buying dying any food at the burger king and burger kings like we don't build our franchises shithouses. You actually have to come in and buy something burgers and you're like like we don't believe in animal hostility man and we don't believe in right but here's the thing under your plan. There will be no bathrooms because businesses will go. Oh fuck it. They like making money. That's how it goes all right. How many bentley's kind you have really an al sharpton in fucking for coats is al sharpton half right new york magazine poked <hes> at the irony of west wearing gold chains to a demonstration that targets wealth inequality aw no. He's got his beads out those are as he's keeping it real. He's got a flannel and his beads on yeah. He's got his. I'm down. He's guys hurry. Gertie man beats on normal triple platinum bullshit blamed s._p. Yeah uh-huh and alongside him was hip hop impresario russell so simmons whose net worth is about three hundred forty million right yeah yes. They're the one percent well god russell in konya start. Paying more in taxes isn't just the two of those guys are the one percent so you're saying yeah yeah yeah listen. It's basically it's like this. This is a big old viking ship and there's one hundred people sitting with oars in their hand and about five of them are rowing and there's ninety ninety five that are sitting on their ass and they want they have a problem with the five guys throwing in my deal is hey dick pic up a fuck and or and shut the the fuck up and don't just dangle it in the water. Yes at least out water because this is you dragging your and i'm fucking the five percent who's paying taxes and pushing the fucking or tired of it. You wanna do something go do something. There's no better country in the world to do it in this country but you can't figure it out and you're frustrated and here's the way it works. It's a pretty simple psychological equation. You cannot find a way to be successful in a country that makes it the easiest to become successful ashfall and that is a shaming process. You can't get your online t shirt business off the ground. You can't figure out a way to make to nichols so instead of finding a mirror era and figuring out why the fuck you're unsuccessful and why you can't achieve and why are impotent you turn on the government who shamed you by saying. Here's here's your pittance to live off of netto bother us. It is a shaming process that turns into hostility. Almost everyone who's on welfare is pissed off at the government the the people that pay zero taxes and receive four hundred and eighty nine bucks every two weeks from the government are much more pissed at the government than the people that pay five hundred thousand thousand dollars a year in taxes. How's that work. You'd think wow what's the irony there right there shamed they've been shamed by the government and so now they get together with like minded people who essentially unemployable or who don't choose to work hard at least and they have this movement that ritual rich asshole seoul just turned into rachel guys they try and they pretend like they're part of this movement. They want nothing to do with it. Ritual yes russell simmons has a fucking talking thirty two bedroom castle like i mean that guy is crab is unfunny believable and he married the person on the planet who did nothing she. You you know mora comoros melda. Mar marcos of the west. I mean cheese is christ guys like temples to pray in and bullshit gimme a break and kanye west al sharpton by the way who i saw he's still he still claims to wanna brawley always still claims his innocence and her innocence and that whole case he's such fucking blowhard that he literally he apologized about all the things from the past ask but he's still. He's still claims that he's right on that one. He's a sack of shit all right but anyway california teenagers. We'll have to wait until eighteen visit. Tanning salons under a new law signed last week by governor jerry brown. The state is the first in the nation to ban tanning for teenagers though others are reportedly considering issuing similar prohibitions the purposes to prevent skin cancer christina clark spokesman for the cancer prevention institute of california said in a statement girls and a fluent california communities especially are surrounded by the message that being tanned all year round is cool pop music star. Katy perry's even singing about eh. You know who the real victim here is. Four forty two year old guy see like beating off to sixteen year old chicks at tansel. Wow that's these. These are the people that are really paying the price for this law. Do they beat off to them at this lawn. That's their business. I only speak for them. I don't know the daily try for a minute to put yourself in the mind of a forty two year old man beating off to a teenager. I'm tanning salon. I'm just saying is it. The site of the of her in the salon or is it a tanning bed or is it. The freshly tant nubile skin skin again. I was only asked to be the spokesperson for this group of intimate. I know i know but i assume you have had some conversations with them. Of course we've had private converse about this. They lie shirt my clients. These conversations that were private would remain private okay while stonewalled here well when you work for an organization a forty two year old guys like to beat off the sixteen year olds. There are certain luke paperwork that needs to be signed. What i call a fiduciary duty sean take place and obviously those are lines. That cannot be crossed. You have to fly in a separate airplane than the rest of them again. Wow can you tell us about representing for two year to beat off the tan sixteen year old. They're mainly under other. They're misunderstood. Mainly the law. The lion share of these guys are god fearing christian family men taxpayers a lot of them are veterans of course of even even popular wars conflicts like korea and things like that right now the popular uh-huh where the war on drugs they're just like you and i beat off the sixteen year olds at ten so lots and they're exclusively forty two year old years old like when they're forty three there. I handle that group. There are other folks at the firm that do different demographics and we've discussed having a group of like why specifically forty he to why don't i don't i offer my services would have come up because that's an obvious question. Why not do it like one of those basketball leagues where it's forty and older right right or under six foot or something like that it come up. It came up. There were a multitude of reasons why we didn't go that route liberty. I'm i'm not here to talk about my my relationship with the forty two year old guys. You're would be something that would come up. Let's just say they didn't open opened the phone book wow. I don't even know what we're talking about it anymore. The two three four of us that's the news i'm alison rosen zip. It can't get with alison rosen and that was adams. Epic occupy wall street rant with a bonus with a bonus lead story. Look at that where else do you find and that only here on corolla classics and also we have show coming out tomorrow. How do you listen to it. You go and you subscribe to corolla roller classics because a lot of people listening to this on the feed. We have a whole other feed. We release episodes every sunday as well so we got your weekends covered and saturday ensenada that's right so tomorrow's episode exclusively on the corolla classics now this next step all manji <hes> this was so good one of my favorite musical performances ever on the n._f._l. Show this is lucas nelson son of willie nelson and <hes> he got a lot of critical acclamation from his work on stars born any performance bradley cooper's band. Just was a big part of that entire movie. I did not know that i'd be probably tied at an arrogant about it so this was actually another listener. Request is on facebook. It's from jordan be says geo. Please help let me brother. I need some that lukas nelson. Forget about georgia live on pearl classics also chance of a cut of the song played over and over the car love you guys now. I've asked dawson for kurla digital album and i've got a few of the tracks <hes> released severally but i don't think we can do that because <hes>. I don't think they will be happy right issues yeah now. This is the best way to hear this song. So if you want to hear it come back to this episode or just check out the original. Adam corolla showed twenty one sixty seven between lukas nelson r._j. Bell gina grad and brian. I am bishop. This is from september twenty seventeen. He's got the whole song and a little bit of praise after work. Check it out all right. Look what he got i well. This is a song that i wrote about this. Girl named georgia that i kinda was seeing and the the the complications of that situation where that after we stopped seeing each other i had to go out as i was playing with my dad and his band and play that song georgia georgia on my mind is the night and so it made it impossible to forget about her so i wrote a song called forget about georgia here. It is <music>. Uh well sure as hell didn't love oh this much. <hes> <hes> much as i was just captured again and again in she could turn her away and still hold me undo and eh river beauty and miss julie pullin me and and then when she told me her name on new would <hes> <hes> slowly. I knew i was destined to live with this pain every night. Uh for each night. I stand with my father plan on music <music>. We cry out her name and her memory another lie so each up room forget about young gosh. She'll never love me lack. I love sports to the <music> each break again about but a part of me hopes that she own ever forget about any <music> part of me homes. I never forget me. <music> love for the first time in alltel in san francisco <music> insists go so perfect attract to forget about it. Now and rich o's singing a lack rain on my window. I want to release her but i can't begin to know how don't let me forget about watch. She'll never love me. Lack on on no love to be. I say let me forget about young the l. but apart of me hopes she'll never forget about me. Pardon me hopes she will feel good about <music> <music>. <hes> i'll say <music> george <hes> because she'll never love me like a no low spoelstra post. I say that me about you but a part of me hopes chiel nab forget about me. Ooh ooh hot meal chee. Never forget about any pardon me holds me <music> the good lyrics matter kids and drives me nuts i. I love good lyrics. I love them and i hate them when people did they don't count there. Okay the drives me nuts while john hiatt why it bothered by a lot of other people. I like listening to the lyrics. Thanks to dogs yeah very beautiful thank you. I'm so impressed. I really <hes> just so impressed with you. I think you're you're a role model for anyone famous at a kid it also so much talent because a lot of time it's a fact simile of what dad does not quite the shops chops or didn't take the time to learn the instrument or whatever it is. I hear what you're saying. That sucks no. No no no no i. I i just love that you did you take this takes much pride in it as you as you do. I love it and then you own it and i just i i i just i couldn't be more impressed. Thank you <hes> the album. I should tell people lukas nelson and the promise of the real is the fourth studio album available all right now on all digital audio platforms and then you can do the vinyl and the cd available on amazon. Lukas nelson live on the adam karol show. I love it. He does have live music on the show. I wish there was more of it like once a month mandate or something yeah twelve bands of coming here i just got the songs are so good they like adam said they off the time sound more interesting than the studio. Versions is not just because they're at parola. Digital is just the sum that about it. <hes> love lima leads to play live. It was kind of same thing the morning show on rare occasion. We're happened. It was also kind of special to it's raw. It's it's real like it. It's intimate because you just had a conversation with them so you know them a little better it. It's a really incredible way to listen to music intertwined with conversation personal studio concerts soon all right. That's cruel classics. Thanks again for listening love you guys we love doing the show and we'll be back tomorrow. On the cruel classics speeds we'll see there till then manage chris locks monitor that superfan giovanni mullahs and good on the escalating trade war with china and arrivals response. I'm jacky quin with an a._p. News minute president trump's imposing tariffs on top of tariffs and billions of dollars of chinese imports coming into the u._s. He also told u._s. Companies with factories in china start looking for alternatives turnips are saga megani report investors were already on edge about a slowing global economy and this did not help the dow dropped six hundred twenty three points points before the markets closed. 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Twins

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Twins

"Vaccine i'm steve me. He's got a catchphrase. Now it's jake. I'm jake at that. That's goal print that on a fucking t-shirt man. That's how we're going to get rich off this whole podcasting thing. Jay kapila brandon t shirts. That's right walked down the street. I'm jake it's the new sensation sweeping the nation. Everyone wants to be jake. Say it's great. It's like the whole body by jake crazed coming back later. Also joining us Myrow smart. You got a catchphrase. You've been working on. No mark waugh going to say. No you really. You really aren't. There's not a lot of you kind of like Your your pet rock without branding to be honest tried. I was thinking of a shirt for you. i actually. It was on the nordstrom rack website. Someone sent it to me but it's a. It's a burberry shirt designer brands. so that's a fine pattern. Say but the the burberry pattern is a on there though. Unfortunately it's it's a plain black t. shirt and it's got in the titty area. It's got a men's t shirts. The the two circular cutouts for your your masculine packs. And then there's a another whole perfect circle hole cut in the center of the back of the t shirt and it's two hundred and thirty dollars for that of t shirts in general especially ones that have been pre damaged. Yeah teddy halls. I know that's pretty cool though. Imagine you know you're you're breaking the quarantine you're going to a big family gathering and not only are you just basket in the superspreader event but you got your titties hanging out. How do you feel about that. I mean you might as well right. Yeah at that point right. You got to send the right message. Yeah like like. Let's say let's say you you got the titties out man or woman. It really doesn't matter you. Just you just putting. You're putting people in an uncomfortable position. I'm guessing you know it's it's available for all sexes It is truly gender neutral and you can repel relatives. No one's going to want to be around you so just just an idea. Just throwing it out there and i know since we're making that big fat podcasts cash. These days seems like it's probably within your budget right. I mean i feel about this opening you. Just call me like dances iraq. You alluded to my by men tits and you just call by presidency. You're part of a big fat podcast. I attacked now. This is for all titties like the cities that are presented in the actual burberry. T-shirt thing nordstrom rack. They're very like rock-solid titties. They're like arnold schwarzenegger in twins titties when he gets gas station. T shirt unfortunately little closer to the devito physique. Well we can. We can work on that. You know we'll just The it's fine. You got plenty of time. None of us can really work as much as we want. We're all trapped at home. It's a good time to get some card. titties anyways. Speaking of arnold schwarzenegger inside of a convenience store in twins. What are we talking about this week. Us for some reason. We're talking about the ivan reitman's twins. That's right. Arnold schwarzenegger and danny devito played and go. Mom are twins. May name is julius. I'm your twin brother. Obviously the moment. I sat down. I thought i was looking into a mirror waiver. Mother can tell them apart. Twins new comedy from biden. Reichman county from ivan reitman. Here's why we're talking about this one. We are constantly just scrambling for ideas. Because we're very professional and to shout factory. Just put out a special edition. Bless their souls because this is a movie that has been wronged for many years. And i can speak got first hand knowledge of how this movie has been wronged in the home video sphere because about ten years ago my brother for christmas he got me a copy of twins and it was a pan and scan. Dvd that look like absolute dog shit and he got it at the dollar store so that that's the kind of physical media we were dealing with before. Shout factory heroically came in and just rescued this movie from oblivion. So let's be out. Assist movie deserves a pay scale. I don't think he really would make much of a difference. It's not it's a lot of things but expertly directed and shot. Maybe not maybe not. I don't think it does anything particularly offensive. But that's of the beauty of this movie right is. I don't know there's certainly not a lot of chokes a ton going on. Well no that's not true. There's probably too much going on but there's not a lot of funny stuff going on but it's just it's just charming. Just kinda floats along. It's the perfect thing to just have on in the background. I'd like a sunday afternoon. It's really beautiful honestly. Yeah if i were like programming blocks for fucking ethics or something that. I wanted something for the three to five on saturday block. This is perfect. There you go. Yeah just pop it on comedy central or something. I shouldn't say that there's no jokes at all because it's really just about our. It's like anytime. arnold is funny. Sometimes they give him actual jokes and setups and shit but mostly it's just it's funny when he says stuff like me singing the song not funny arnold doing it out the papers the trash those spending cash if you'd scrap kids some floor you ain't gonna rock and roll no more yaacob the talk back like that. How is that not funny all the time. It's it's beautiful and then you kind of married again later in the movie. Multiple times it works. And then you like pair. That with the goofy visual of arnold schwarzenegger wearing a sport coat and these fucking goofy shorts. You're the white socks that are like scrunched down for no. I don't really understand. It seems like he was raised in this like sort of cultural utopia and todd all the finest things which but you would think would include things like dance and how to dress acing valve but apparently not. I don't know now. All he did was. He's like oh you know. I read lots of books you know. He's like oh literature. That was i think but he says that all times. But i don't think he ever says anything like indicates that he really has that firm of a grasp on like literature culture or anything like that. Did you sort of you know. He studied like crop. Macgyver scrape stuff. I love the story of this movie. Because it's for some reason in my head like i didn't think it was this complicated but it's stunning. How fucking stupid. This movie is in how convoluted get so ice. Jake tried to give me. What is the cliff's notes version. What the fuck is twins about okay. Well so long time ago. Thirty five years or so for the film takes place there. Is this genetic experiments where six men dna from six men were as pulled together to basically produce the like what would be the perfect offspring with this one woman who'd give birth to this baby that would i guess technically be perfect. They say he's like intellectually physically and spiritually a perfect being but in the process of the pregnancy the zygote splits resulting in a twin and because The baby that would grow to be arnold schwarzenegger. God's the bulk of the good genes The other one became the shitty counterpart of danny devito and then data veto is dumped in. An orphanage and arnold schwarzenegger grows up on an island. Like twenty seven miles off the coast of fiji or something and then he finally learns about his brother so he goes to l. a. to reunite with his brother and hilarity ensues. He could say that's yeah that's it and then and then the whole thing is just about how arl- is this fish out of water in society. He's kind of just acclimating to people while also reuniting with his brother not knowing what a real piece of shit his brother is because he's like always money to mobsters and he steals cars to make his earnings and he sleeps around with married women. So yeah so the the weird thing is like you would think this would involve. I guess you could maybe pull this off. I don't know. I feel like somewhere in some drafts of this fucking script. It must have mentioned. Nazi ex patriots. But i feel like you. You might even get away with this accepted. So reliant on this bullshit. Like twin magic nonsense. Like nardo doesn't research where deady devito is at any given point. He just find him because they're connected because they're twins. Fuck it right. A solution to this problem not dislike feel while we were having this conversation before we started recording. And i ask you. Steve is ivan reitman a good director. I mean i'm inclined to say. Yes just because i'm familiar enough with the stuff that he's done. Then i guess if i think about what. He's directed i mean. Yeah there's there's plenty of movies around like. Oh yeah that. It's good. But i don't know i'm not sure i mean he made. He made kindergarten cop. That's a stone. Cold classic stripes is pretty fine ghostbusters. Good one how many how many bad movies could have made jake myself up here. No we were because we were looking at his filmography and no. I mean a lot of a lot of his films are really just Just concepts they're very high concept comedies and he just seems to cast a a leading man like bill murray arnold who will carry the bulk of that concept for him and he just kind of kicks his feet up in coasts through the production kind of pointing shoe wherever his stars are standing. And that's that's really the director sil- of five right meant and then when you do it with Later films in his career. Such as shooting natalie portman and ashton kutcher in no strings attached. You have career death. Yeah i fell. Apart when he tried to recapture it goes both through evolution without. Yeah he didn't have bill. Murray working firm at that time. And and i look at his resume and i don't like a lot of his even classic films really i guess. Wait a second are you. Are you going to hate on legal. Eagles with robert fucking redford. I ever had the pleasure honestly. But i never been fond of like two meatballs air stuff but i mean ghostbusters is obviously works. I guy of the age that it's almost impossible for me to not like that movie but it's also you got to wonder how much ramos head to do with the hat. Because he's far better comedy director kindergarten cop one. I would have to agree with although again. It's not an especially well-made film it's just it's a much better script than we have here with. Twins and arnold is at the top of his comedy game. Now i don't know. I guess you probably right like i'm looking at some of this shit that he's done. And this is is pretty fucking bleak man like who boy go through a few of these my super ex girlfriend. No thanks evolution It's got some defenders but no thanks. Six days seven nights no junior. I haven't seen that about twenty years. It's it makes twins seib like the greatest movie ever made. There's this dave. Dave guys we all we all love. Dave my favorite president movie. That's that's something. Yeah this is rough. There's really not a lot here. Kindergarten cop great ghostbusters to find twins. I like okay. Legal eagles actually sucks ass. I'm sorry ghostbusters goods stripes. Fine me balls. Fine so yeah. It's like even his highest highs like like you said like ghostbusters. There's really nothing else that he's done. That's like on that level at all. So ooh yeah saving now totally besmirch him. I mean that's a fine. That's a fine body of work for comedy. Director is one that is cited as like the comedy directors. You know he's sure he's royalty in comedy circles and to me i'll at this and i go why he's not good at all. We talk about is pre comedy work though because he made a movie in one thousand nine hundred seventy three so You know his his springboard let him to meatballs. It's called cannibal. Girls a deceased to be like a horror slash exploitation film about the titular cannibal girls and it stars eugene motherfucking levy. That's weird bizarre. Put that on my watch. Do you think like is eugene levy. A bad guy is sexy. Man who can say was eugene. Levy ever sexy and his life. i don't know. I don't know but yeah i guess that's some we'll save that for a future episode called sean glenis raw materials twins. Sequels still hangs out there as well where the triplets. With eddie murphy. As the third twin is still hanging out there pre-production. I must assume it could not possibly ever get big debut is constantly talking about triplets of red like multiple interviews with hamburger. He's mentioned it. Yeah i feel like i've been hearing about triplets the threat of triplets for over a decade. Now it's crazy it can't happen. Arnold a devito both like fucker could be dead. It wouldn't surprise me what they can't make this movie while we mentioned that the script is a little shaky to it and then basically the whole movie hinges on the fact that it's it's arnold and its veto and those are two naturally funny people like arnold has great comedic. Timing is just naturally funny guy and he understands what's goofy about him and i don't think he takes himself too seriously plus a pretty sure trained with milton berle for a while before he started doing comedic roles so he's got some shops and they pretty much carry this whole thing but would surprise. You mirus if i told you that. According to the writers of twins who have worked on some other projects together they actually came up with this idea in a bathroom because they had pitched something else to a studio executive for a different for a different project. And the guy totally shot down. It was like what else you got for me. And this is what they came up with. So did they sign the contract on a napkin that they had to like. I'd agreed we'll do this. Great so golden they. They got greenland instantly. I love it. There's a little guy at a big guy. Why not just make sure make them twin brothers. Why is all this other horse shit. I don't need to know the craze nazi experiments that were done to fucking formulate these. My favorite eugenics comedy of all time. Do you think this is a really high movie. Bob's fucking favorite films number one eugenics cavity maniacal and also. It doesn't have any like a for as much as it wants to talk about genetics. What is the concept you that six men ejaculated into aqap and therefore there for these towards six fathers. I don't think that's how it works. I would right but they made like dna smoothie still one fucking the now. That's how it works. Man you fucking you crank your dick into the blizzard machine and then you just you dump it on the lady egg. Then you make baby. That's that's how it works. It's living in flipping but they referred to throughout the film a milkshake for somebody. They call him out shake and you know what if i were writing a film about a goofy twins. Arnold schwarzenegger danny devito. I don't think i would mention sperm or a built shaking any fucking point now. Where you can you could. You could remove all of the arnold on an island whatever stuff and just have them be like you take all of that out in the movie still functions to separated twins who find each other and go in pursuit of their mother. But no it's like there's the harebrained scheme. The danny de. Vito gets into where he's like. I don't know driving around a rocket ship engine and a cadillac skit. A cell to some corporation. There's there's a lot going on also could very easily be extracted from the film. Even what's the driving plot their out a road trip to deliver some espionage engine that he has inadvertently stolen from a contract killer. And what the fuck why. Why is that. it's because all of the jokes. There's just a few things that we know about these guys. And then in order to drive the plot forward they just like well he steals cars. So why how. Can we extend this movie by thirty minutes like well. He steals a car and there's something he's not supposed to have it. Okay the whole thing is just completely cut and pins together. A real just profoundly shitty way. But thank god. We had arnold schwarzenegger. Danny devito because interviews schwarzenegger and devito as well as the other. Two people about to reveal have all confirmed that what we're about to tell. You is true. But christopher lloyd and hulk hogan were given suburban commando and the idea was schwarzenegger and devito had their choice between suburban commando and twins and then hogan and christopher lloyd. We're going to get whatever they didn't want so could have swapped and we would have had the hulk easter doc brown in these roles which i don't know if that if that works quite as well well. I guess it's an interesting thought experiment as to whether suburban commando with the veto and schwarzenegger is better than the current iteration of twins. I'm not sure it might be a better script. It's it's a script though Yeah i think. The answer is whatever movie arnold. And danny devito decide to do. That's the one that's going to be better because the hulk stir doesn't exactly shine in suburban commando but no obviously christopher lloyd's all right it but he he's he's delta pretty rotten hand. Yeah in our previous suburban commando. I mean we do. We did mention when we did that. The was shock and wedding with a commando. Also starring arnold. There is there are like very brief flashes of wit in suburban. Commando and. Arnie would make a much more credible alien coppa. Whatever the fuck that hulk hogan is supposed to be then. Hulk hogan is I guess we would have had. They would have shelly divall with them. So really the trio. The idea that this was like greenland without a cast is fucking insane. The be who would be like. Oh yeah the script is goal. We gotta get made no matter who stars in. It's like what what the skit steph. Ed it's good. It's good south. Well who am i to say the thing made like fucking mint. Oh yeah oh yeah the studio like they didn't wanna pay arnie his his usual fee for a movie so they negotiated him to veto negotiated so they would get like a prophet percentage and schwarzenegger negotiates the week. We'll get twenty percent of the prophets from twins. So both did. I think yes. So they both nailed like they both came home with thirty five million dollars just from doing twins this is. This is their highest grossing film for them personally. Yeah so this. I don't if arnold schwarzenegger has ever made more money on a movie. Yeah like this made more money than terminator for him. Personally it's brilliant stuff really. It's thirty five million dollars. God oh but yeah. It's fine like. I don't think i would rush out and buy this unless you have a particularly nostalgic attachment and then yeah go grab the shout factory blu ray because it looks better than any existing home release so yeah that's cool but it's something man. It's good background stuff. There's worse arnold movies. There's worst veto movies. There's worse reitman movies. it's fine it's all right. So i don't know i guess. Yeah let's move on to another niece slap in comedy. How's that sound. You guys seen depalma sister's sister. They were once one in body and perhaps one in my danielle and dominique one. One eighty one innocent the other where just danielle and dominique began. Representative driller you could cut pretty much. I i tried to put it together the kid but yeah the trailers. It's it's very of its time. It's it's a sell something it's not exactly delivered on but this is this is really important. Depalma movie only because it's sort of launched what we conceive of is like what a brian depalma movie is. He did a lot of satire and comedy driven stuff before this and then yeah. He dropped sisters in our laps. And i don't. I don't think it's by any stretch. The best brian depalma movie. But if you needed to just give someone a shorthand cliff's notes version of like okay. This is this is all the. Brian depalma stuff that the motifs the themes all that stuff. It's all here like it's got. It's got everything. If you got the brian depalma bingo card or covering the whole fucking thing. Up so yeah. I haven't seen this one in about ten years and it looks great first time. I've seen it in high. Def i think and it's a lot better than i remember it being. I guess it's just great. Yeah i'd never seen this one. I got to say it was. It was new to me but I'm pretty. I am pretty lax on the brian depalma catalog. Unfortunately which she's is odd. Because every time. I see one of his movies on within. This guy knows what the fuck is typically. Watch more but then i instead. I'll just watch franken youtube or something. Because i'm a piece of shit that's pretty much it. Brian depalma or logan paul. The choice is clear. Man you've made you've committed jay. How about you. What was the last time you watch sisters. I feel like i need to do a full diploma. Re-watch after watching this because it just got sparked my interest in him again. Yeah it's kinda crazy like how formerly impressive. This is movies kind of peaking at his filmography before the show he did. He directed six feature films from nineteen sixty eight to nine hundred seventy two and nineteen seventy-two he also unleashed sisters is the seventh movie and he really found his voice. Here in. this is like the brian depalma. We know took off. Because then he scott bammer the paradise obsession and carry all came out in the span of three years after this. But i had. I seen this. I think about five years ago and it was not very good. Quality adding was just a dvd rip But Yeah i watched the shiny new criterion blu. Ray it's gorgeous and yeah if this is not my favorite diploma film. But it's so much better than i remembered. I think if you kind of distilled down like you said steve fit the elements of his filmography to their basic fundamentals. It's all here. it just is great. Yeah just make sure you. Don't watch the two thousand six remake or the two thousand fifteen tina fey. Amy poehler comedy. That's probably get a different result than but yeah as far as like horror films in his filmography or religious seventy hor seventies horror in general. I cannot recommend this highly enough. Got a passing interest in diplomas work outside of like carrier or anything. This good shit you need to watch this and one of the things that makes it. So great is i mean clearly. He's he's playing around with a lot of hitchcock's stuff. We know diploma voyeurism. So you're getting a little bit of rear window here and There's actually a there's a scene where we get the classic brian depalma split-screen where a woman in a different apartment building watches a murder kind of unfold. And we're getting the shot from the perspective of the the Apartment where the murders taking place and then also her perspective from across the street. And it's just it's really cool really effective shit but depalma's humorous still here like as grizzlies. That initial murder is where a guy gets stabbed in the fucking face and you get just scorza. That bright red nine thousand nine hundred seventies blood. Yeah this movie still really funny. The beginning at least is the whole peeping tom. Show setup for this is fantastic because it's throughout this voyeurs place that role and they're so it's so sinister and and leering and all this stuff but then the movie literally starts with a fucked up game show where they set up. People unsuspecting people into like peeping tom situations with actresses and then they see how they'll react. We it's like oh we'll he watched the woman take off her bra or will he be a gentleman and leave room you know. And that's how are these two characters the woman who plays the titular sisters and our poor little murder victim. That's how they meet on the show is he is. He's the one who tries to get set up in this voyeurism show peeping dom and. She's the actress they hired and then because because they both one she gets a wonderful culturally cut cutlery. There we go. That's how you said that we're cutlery. Said with like a big ass fucking butcher knife of course. Great thing to give a Future murderer and then he gets. He's black guy and he gets dinner for two at a hot restaurant called the african room. Absolute like fucking just weird like roots inspired nonsense and yeah. It's just like i dunno. It's got that that comedy and that biting social satire that he was doing prior to this. And then you just watch him completely do a hitchcock in like thriller horror thing and it just feels so natural and none of it feels like a retread like. He's totally doing his own thing. But it's still this great ammash so i'm rambling at this point but it's fucking good. It's really good shit. I was just going to say for me. It's not quite as successful as his strongest work. Like stuff like blowout I didn't get the the tension as thickly as the public and certainly pull off. Nor did i get the sort of dramatic consistency and something like kerry but it is still really interestingly films to be sure and it goes into direction for the bulk of the film. I'm kinda gone. Okay he's doing hitchcock. That's pretty standard. Palma obviously infatuated with hitchcock but man it takes turn. That's for sure. This movie thrive for me in. Its open and it's close like the middle part is is very rear window. Adjacent is very much doing a hitchcock thing and not really. It never really nailed the suspense perfectly for me. I was kind of not. On the edge of my seat i was a little bit disengaged but yet the direction this thing goes very very interesting very strange i i kinda have to parse it a little bit. I think to to kind of figure out exactly what he means. I need to digest this thing for a couple more days which is always a. That's always a positive online It's it's really interesting. How like the including that opening peeping toms satement. It would like a little jokey game show but like that coupled with the opening credits which are overlaid over like these x-rays of embryo. But what's interesting is that. You only really see one embryo at a time. It's like that. In the peeping tom voyeurism and like the parcel of knives that she wins. A gift like the entire film is basically set up in this whole five minutes which i had not remembered for some. I forgot all about the opening. I thought it started with them. Just meeting at the at the club but Yeah it's It's great and And just i mean it's probably just a side effect of us watching all the shit. We had to for the last episode but like the moment that the guy after being slashed several times his hand on the window and the split screen immediately starts at the apartment across the street and we see just like filmed with two simultaneous cameras of the motion of his hand wiping his blood across the window. That just like felt like a shot in the brain like i. I love that shit. It's it's it's superb is like where we need only watch good movies for this podcast because that was that was like real fat chance buddy. I know it's a. It's a shame but yeah that was good stuff. It really hit me this time. Yeah very assured filmmaking. It's impressive stuff like i. It's hard to overstate how well-crafted that open is and and not just you know. Visually it is the entire film was set up there quite beautifully quite efficiently and yeah. This is very strong. Phil very strong. I don't mean to undersell it. I just You know sometimes things click for you a certain way and this might not have but nonetheless. I was incredibly impressed with it and again it. Just as bizarre fucking like mesmerized ending worries like inserting this other woman into the memories of the twins is so interesting strange. And it's not where you think. The film is headed at all all of a sudden. It's just like okay. This is a little predictable. I bet there's no twin got this cracked that all of a sudden watts. What is he doing. Yeah the the kind of towards the end where it switches from this really. Beautifully shot thirty five millimeter color film. To just kinda really grainy fucking weird black and white sixteen millimeter and literally like the transition to that. Is the camera. Zooming into the protagoras iris. And then we end up in this like sixteen millimeter grainy memory. It's it's really incredible stuff. It's the kind of thing you you just don't see in films ever like movies are made this well. Sorry that's just a log showed it really long sequenced to and it's just filled with bizarre imagery like like the conjoined triplets like nap dancing next to each other and things like that. It's it's it's wild. It's a sure have this bizarre non ending to whereas this like that murder that this movie's about it doesn't matter at all like he's irrelevant closure to the film i do love that just that final shot of just that helpless zoom of during staring at the couch is great. He's great on this too. Yep well and that's the thing too is just like going back to the voyeurism thing because really i mean we did sisters 'cause twin cash sure but so much this movie hinges on the voyeurism stuff and voyeurism in this movie. It's not only like unhealthy. But it's like it's kind of we know it is like could be unhealthy be kind of perverted and shit. But it's it's dangerous and diploma really drives that home and you know at the end. He's just sort of looking at the sofa but no one gives a fuck about the sofa and also it's like if you look at what happened to the woman journalist. It's like wow what happened. Well she was voyeuristic and then look at a horrible situation that that she ended up in so yeah known as a fuck about the sofa anymore. The case doesn't matter and yet he still sort of obsessed his dangerous obsession with this murder and what happened. It's it's really great stuff but yeah shit man if you haven't seen sisters i don't know what you're doing your life fix it. Go go watch it now. it's crazy to. Because he diploma sorta conceived this. It's such a just a tight movie the medically and it's written really well and it's got this sort of slow build beginning at but it's totally worth for the payoff. But he got the idea for this movie just because he read a life magazine article about masha and dasha cruella supernova. who are the hosa red scare. No they're famous came from moscow. There's a couple like over. The course of the last two hundred years is like super famous one so like the hilton sisters who were in freaks. They're super famous Chang and ang. Who were the original siamese twins. That's where the the phrase comes from which this fucked up as a brief aside those guys they ended up. Obviously they were from siam but they move to to do like entertainment shit and they ended up settling north carolina where they own a plantation with fucking slaves and their each different woman and had like a on a children's so yeah that's kind of wild fuck man. The original siamese twins had sleighs was not somewhere that i expect it to go what i was. You know looking into some of this stuff but anyways so diploma's just looking at this photograph of these two sisters and he thought it was really weird because in the picture he was looking at one of them looked really happy and the other one looked like just kinda pissed off and he thought it was interesting. Like oh you have these two people but obviously they can be totally totally different and they got to thinking about like okay. Well what if you have. Siamese twins and one of them commits a murder or something. Then how do you put them in prison. Like how does that work. Essentially yes so it. It's amazing that he was able to just build this movie out of one photograph in life magazine. That's crazy to me but yeah sisters. it's great go watch it. Yeah i agree. And then after you see that. If i mean if this is your first depalma i mean he really hones is craft later like at mention. I think blowout might be as best film but also like a dressed to kill is also fantastic as very much as yalo influence mission to mars here away. I'm actually going to mars rish advertisers more love that it gets. I'll say that much all right. Well how are we. We talk about some a little more serious. How's that so. A secret twain is hiding in the basket. What's in the basket easter eggs. What's the basket close. What's in the basket. What's in the basket open. It gave place. I love this movie so much so so much. Also faulk rudy giuliani. He really completely ruined times square. It's weird to me that watching this movie which was shot in in. Wha what's now time square in one thousand nine hundred eighty two like it made me nostalgic for something that existed before i was born and that i've never experienced before in my life just amazing. This is one of the grimy est looking movies i have ever seen in my entire life Jake basket case. Oh boy basket case by the great franken. Lauder is the story of two loving brothers duane in belie Blinds will was separated from dwayne. They're born conjoined with belie. Oh was essentially a growth on his side. And he's the he lives in a wicker basket. That dwayne takes with everywhere and the two brothers are basically on a revenge mission to kill the doctors that separated them at birth or not birth in their youth. But yeah and belie- all is a crazy amount of flesh that likes to eat and kill people. I guess you could say knee. Also he also enjoys screaming a lot. Which i was watching this movie in the other room in my wife asked when it was over. She says what was that. Movie called the screaming man. Oh he's not a man he's like a ball of flesh that was removed from another man. You should you should have manslaughter in that to a real good i just the blindscreen though like it. Just fuck every time. He opens his mouth. It's freak out when he smashes up. The hotel room is fantastic. I love just the one because it's like a great combo of like a stop motion and just puppetry. But i love just that one wide shot of him. Slamming the bed up down on the ground motion you'll ever seen in your life at two hundred percent that's like one of my favorite memories is years and years and years ago. It must have been shit. I don't know it's probably like fifteen years ago at this. Point is the first time that myerson. I watched this movie and we watched it together like sitting on the couch drinking beer watching this movie and so far it's like oh this is this is funds good movie and the thing that really takes it over the top. Is that scene. Like i don't think i've ever laughed harder. Stop motion seeking because it's so ridiculous. I can't even i. It's just see just watching like just belie kind of scoot along the floor and then it's great to because in stop motion you watch them like pick up a chair and then cut to the wall. Where the chair smashes against it. It's just the way it just throws it across the the set. Yeah for sure. They did about maybe fifteen. Th of the recommended frames your standard starbucks. I say so. I'd say so but really. This movie is a triumph. David lynch elephant man. They walked so that belie basket case could run. It's it's one of the rare like it's it's disgusting in the sense that like every single set on this movie looks like it will just give you a horrible disease or a rash that you will never cure. It's gory and over the top and it's violence and the acting is super amateurish but in that fun over the top kind of soap opera esque way at it just hits all the right beats and franken ladder. God bless him. he's a genius because he took everything that would have been a disadvantage to most filmmakers and kind of flips it around and makes it why basket cases so special. It's pretty much a perfect low budget exploitation movie. As far as i'm concerned. I it's probably my favorite of that new york grind house seen like i. I love this movie to death. And i think one of the most overlooked figures in american film history honestly with his importance in preserving grind house cinema. And he he's just spend instrumental to that entire scene and is really important and interesting filmmaker. And i think basket case came to kind of define his career in the best and worst ways he seemingly kept. Every time had come out with another project. He'd be right back to the basket case sequel factory and didn't do favors. This movie is a wonderful standalone thing. That has a couple of really fucking stupid seals. That i think jackie's inexplicably defense typical typical. No this is good because it's been preserved by moma of all people this is. This is high caliber stuff. I wouldn't say it's it's it's a close second for my favorite hennion lotteries. I think a franken hooker is the king in that regard but good. This is really really terrific stuff. And i had a wonderful time watching all over again. It's tight ninety minutes. It's just belie all is a. I love that crazy bastard. He's a wonderful creation It's very funny Heading lauder has got a great like him. You know we mentioned a palm has got a great sense of humor and handed autres films a really funny as well. Yeah that's the case is just blast. Good it's a good thing that you know. We were coming off the herschell gordon lewis featuring and hadn't allowed it's obviously tremendous fan of his and you know partially responsible for the preservation wad was work with something weird at the time. But yeah it's this is definitely has the spirit of that even though it's honestly probably handle most straightforward horror film. It's just got so much camp running through it that it's hard to ignore. It doesn't read like a straight horror film even if that was the intensity and if it was the intent heading was at least smart enough to pivot in the direction that it was his style obviously fit. But there are things in this movie. That are not just a big fucking goof to like the talk about your strange ending choices like this thing also much like sisters. It goes into direction very suddenly in. It's just this bizarre sequence where dwayne dreaming of lyles actions as he runs through the city depicted by a dwayne nude body even though he's actually asleep and and three time. It's pretty cool. It's just a very very bizarre sequence. We're in it goes from this goofy thing to this very very strange thing where all of a sudden murders duan's lover at his like humping your corpse then they like fucking kill each other in a really bittersweet ending but it's also again. This movie has two sequels for no reason so little undercut but Yeah i've never seen those. For that reason i would go ahead and not the really fucking dumb and the makeup effects are really much much less charming. I would say it's like they try to a whole a freaks thing and it just doesn't work now most that most of the side characters. They look like. I don't know if you made like mac tonight at a wax and then just kind of melted him a little bit. That's pretty much all there is to it and then the third one is the one where it's like. It's like delile who egg he bangs chicken then has little babies right is that that's like a robo body or something. Yeah and then. I started getting confused because then full moon came out movie like inbetween basket case two and three called the head of the family which is about a little like belie guy in a little robot body and it's the same as basket case two and three. There's a lot of confusion that happens in my brain around this period. So yeah i don't know but don't bother with the sequence totally abandoned us Dwayne as a character to like the the sequels are very much belie all movies you know and yes that's the opposite of what this is. This is a totally dwayne. Kevin van hinton rick. That's the actor who still has amazing hair. He looks great. I mean he's a very he's got a look about of that's for sure but he's he's in the sequels but he's he's given nothing like they they obviously were just like these people. What bligh which is which is weird like delilah as a mascot is this like. I don't know it doesn't really work. And it kind of undercuts. The whole first movie which we didn't really get into the finer points of the of the plot. But essentially and dwayne are. They're born conjoined twins but lila all is small and fucked up and then when they get separated. They they they go on this killing rampage to get back at the people who hurt and separated them in this that and the other thing so they they kill their dad. they're killing their. These doctors are just going through a list of all these different people really more darpa. Sorry to interrupt for a second but it's dark dark mesh of twins and sisters because twin really is is them trying to track down all the doctors and the men responsible for their birth and sisters deals with the two sisters who were born conjoined and even get like the same kind of makeup scarring effect in this and in sisters. Where it's like. Ev evidence that somebody was you know separated from another person but this is just the dark version of those two movies instead of hunting. The doctors to understand their past. They're just hunting the doctors for the kill them. Yeah that's the very existence. Awhile is like a fucking the best thing ever like. Who the fuck name belie. They're just like we're gonna call this unfortunate Mel formation we're naming a demon family hated his s so much that they would never have given them a day. Betty with this a tumor her but somebody took the time was at the end to love. Them both was still named after deaprtment. I'm not entirely clad. And maybe it was a mistake. This is this is some real shit. I'm about to tell you right now. So someone that i'm going to say their name on on the air as we blast this out to god knows who but mirus someone that we know from college they. They had a baby recently and What's the baby. The baby's name was gabriel. Okay and to stay with the baby theme. They went with a angel name for the middle name. Now the put you into scenario. Let's say you are. You're looking for in angel- name for the middle name of your child to go with gabriel. Because you just see like that. That's what you wanna do. And so you google angel names and then you get an alphabetical list of names of angels. What a horrible mistake do you think you could make my. Ross i would say would really choose lucifer. Ignorant of the context. No not not quite that that. Not quite that bad. But we're starting with the letter. K which is literally probably the first angel named the popped up and she said. Wow that's so interesting. No one has a baby name that she gave her kid the middle name abba don so long abba gabriel appetite on you. Take your fucking baby abbotabad. The fuck is wrong with people and then after you read that you just like angel name good enough. They're all fine. Didn't bother to. And i don't know does she know at this point. Has someone told her she got around to google. Is this kid like ten years from now. Fifteen years from now is he to google. his name be like fuck. Like how i just. I don't understand this can't end well for anyone right. Like someone's going to find out and be like shit. I don't know yeah anyways basket case i don't want this movie is campy and silly but like you guys said like. There's some genuine shitting here and it is a shame that the dwayne gets thrown under the bus pretty much in the two sequels because so much of the original basketcase kind of hinges on the symbiotic and parasitic relationship. And how they go back and forth between those two things you know. They need each other but clearly like delile is manipulating him. In ways in holding him back from things and i think a lot of that taps into why culturally and in cinemas well like people get obsessed with conjoined twins Because on one hand you have like this this thing this attachment that prevents loneliness. And it's like you're always going to have someone there for you. But the flip side of that is yeah but you always have someone there and so you have this inseparable attachment and basket case in a really smart genuine way like wrestles with this and yet somehow has goofy claymation sequences where a little guy scoots around on the floor and breaks a chair. Like it's amazing. How it just kind of is able to balance those two things at once. Like multiple scenes of dwayne just like chuck in hot dogs and hamburgers into the. We don't even see for like. I think i've probably right around the thirty minute. Mark is when he's i unleashed right. And there's that cold open but we always kept in the basket or in the shadows and then once he's weakened doctors offices. What do i say again just hanging on the wall. This movie is spectacular. Grime like that doctor's office is just filthy disgusting. You'll ever see special. This booby captures a time. And a spirit you. It's very important a film you don't see many more qabail applicant uses of this of the style. Like it is quintessential seventies new york. It's great stuff. I would absolutely recommend it well eighties. But you know it's seventies new york. It's just nine hundred. Eighty two before gadget cleanse. Yeah four fucking rudy. God damn rudy giuliani when he's covert now just covert. Yeah that's cool. Although i'm gonna i'm gonna miss the guy like the melting leg just for men hair stuff. That was pretty cool. I like when he brought that drunk lady into a court deposition also very cool. And then i think the last thing he did before he came down with kelvin and went to the hospital was he ripped a huge asphalt on c. span during a court hearing so rudy. Sucks that you completely wreck times square in new york but on the other hand you've provided me endless entertainment so god bless you sir. Mysteriously dijakovic myross. Yeah he put over this week. I'm gonna put over at some to put over. But i'd also say on the way out curious and you should be frank hannon ladders other films of that era brain damage and franken. Hooker are also. Well we're seeking out the roth very fantastic films again. a lot of people just. He's a forgotten director of the eighties. One of the. He's one of the more fun horror directors of era and camp and joyous. Seek it out. But i'm gonna put over this guy tim rogers. I was talking about long form criticism a little while back with another guy. I really like what his name is. A top my man. I don't know but you can find it in a previous sips. Noah called welder vase. That was his name but tim. Rogers is more prominent critic. Who worked for catan you for a long time. But he's doing his own thing now and his own thing is a lot more interesting than what he was doing for tax. He's got this series of action button reviews and he just did one recently on pacman and one previously doom and these are like three and a half hour long reviews of games that seemingly would not warranted and they're just kind of stories that encompass heirs of his life and ariza for america honestly and they're really excellent and well we're a couple of hours investment any sort of interest in that type of discourse all right. Jake he put this week. Yeah so We've mentioned briefly when we were discussing the comedies of ivan reitman That he had leading men bill. Murray and some of his films of course and I actually watched the film a couple of weeks ago for the first time. Not too many people seem to really know or talk about it. But i'm gonna put over a movie. called quick. Change was released a thirty years ago. I have you guys seen quick change. I've not yet. That's like one of my favorite movies from when i was a kid. Yeah it's it's excellent. The first twenty minutes is a bill. Murray in a clown full clown makeup clown costume robbing a bank And it's like a genuinely funny movie And it's also like one of the best bill. Murray comedy performances. He's he's aided by Gena davis in randy quaid. A pre. nutjob randy quaid. And it's basically this whole like chase between this this veteran cop who's trying to hunt down the the clown that robbed the bank But yeah it's it's weird that like it's it's not like really talked about much but I i highly recommend it. Yeah quick change great. Check it out cool this week. You know. I was thinking. I was going to put over the new blood house. Movie which is available on demand. Or if you're psycho. I guess you'd go see in a theater. Whatever freaky new bloom house flick. it's it's fine. it's good it's it's kinda like twins where you're like okay. So they had a concept and they just had to build a movie around it and in this case. It is your freaky friday. Setup and eighteen girl gets swapped with a Jason voorhees figure played by vince. Vaughn so if you've ever wanted to see vince vaughn kisa teenage boy on the mouth. This is a movie that delivers that for you. It's just. I don't know it's gory than i expected. It's pretty fun. Some good laughs in it. I don't think it's topped your blouse house by a long shot but you know after. We watched their their short films that they did for amazon prime this year and they weren't even short films full length series. I don me too. I was just thinking that if you watch him at one and a half times speed which. I highly recommend only way to watch cinema baby. Yeah it's a it's a nice return to form it stupidest faulk. It's right up there with like fantasy island. Or i guess you could say it's a slightly less successful version of happy death day in that same vein so yeah good way to kill ninety minutes but i don't wanna do a lukewarm put over because that's not what i'm about here so i'm going to put over the new god of online criticism and thinking. What is cuff. go to talk about. Negligee again he is operatives always going on about though the next best picture in no no no no negligence old hat. We have a new king. Let me tell. Let me tell you about your new guy that you will bow down to cinema therapy. Holy shit this is just yeah. I don't know if you really liked to torture yourself and you want to experience the worst shit on the internet. this is incredible stuff. So it's it's like the kind of click beatty titles where they're like so-and-so reacts to such and such but it's filtered through a i guess like a therapist point of view so get ready for videos like family. Therapist reacts to co-parenting an ant man therapists reacts to extreme isolation in the martian relationship there. Fish cringes dating in twilight is christoph- the perfect man relationship therapist talks frozen to this is the kind of stuff that we need right now in our film criticism so yeah jake. This is probably your favorite thing on the internet right now too. Yeah i gotta go. Binge watch the whole series again after we're done recording here. Yeah i was. I was thinking like should. I watched another cinema therapy or should i throw myself in front of a moving car and well. Yeah the choice is clear so yeah i don't know if you wanna see the worst shit on the internet. Go fucking watch that. It's painful and things like this shouldn't exist but here we are and they do so with that. If you're listening to this podcast right now. A big favor. There's a couple of links in the description. The podcast so if you look at the description you'll see a link to our i tunes page. 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314 - CES 2019, TV/Film Returns, & My Windows 10 Update Experience

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314 - CES 2019, TV/Film Returns, & My Windows 10 Update Experience

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Yeah. So it seems to be the time of revivals or continuations thereof. And I say that because we've we've recently gotten because I'm a little behind many black international trailer, which looks rather interesting for reboot continuation since the third film kind of taking place in the UK. And then we get the news that Star Trek four from paramount is shelved for the most part because the other really nothing going on there. And then. The the fact that there's Jason Reitman Ivan Reitman's son teased, a new Ghostbusters movie taking place after the second one little sensually third in the line. Totally disregarding the new reboot from twenty sixteen which unceremoniously flopped due to fan backlash refusing to go. See it. We'll give it a shot. Now granted I felt that the jokes. And in the movie itself wasn't quite up to par. But the regional movies weren't perfect either. So there is that aspect which just makes it ridiculous that everybody's throwing his even over the film. But the the trailer did look interesting showed somebody trying to mess with broken proton pack released showing anybody in particular because it was probably just a kind of a staff number played around in the they showed like the wind blowing and then the the echo one sitting on the ground kind of rusting. The rear end of it just shows up, and then that's the end of it. I don't know. It could be interesting. We'll we'll see how how well this. Takes off as it were. In in speaking of revivals supernatural on episode three hundred they're touting an epic reunion. Granted I haven't watched show it awhile. So I'm going to be a little behind, but they're bringing back Jeffrey dean Morgan to play John Winchester, which is the father who died in season. Two to save dean because the brothers have this pension for dying every season or getting taken over by some Djelic or demonic being. So it'll be interesting to see how they wrap him in the show because they'll actually have the entire family back together because the mom they brought back to seasons ago. Is kind of like a gift from the darkness. Which was kind of ridiculous in of itself. But I know I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what they do with it. If nothing else I'll check it out for that that alone. I would hope that they would keep them around in the universe. But I sincerely doubt it unless they kind of leave it open, which would be preferable. But I guess time will tell on that. And then finally the thing that myself in a booth ninja. Michael powers talked about a while back was the Motorola razor folding phone which was finally unveiled. Or or the knowledge of it. They're saying that, you know in this publicly now, it's not just some random website or anything. They're saying that the Motorola razor may return a full phone for fifteen hundred dollars, which is ridiculous in the funny thing is the Motorola razor V three. Which is the one I add when I had Verizon. It was actually the only phone I had rising before switch to sprint. And then eighteen. And then it was kind of dethroned by the iphone because smartphones were the thing after that in. I gotta say though, I love the style and the futuristic look of the original razor just in the fact that it reminded me of a communicator from Star Trek. So I I missed the original phone. I don't know if I could actually go back to the original phone though. And then the folding phone thing, I it remains to be seen how well his takes off. Now granted fifteen hundred dollars. I can buy pretty suped up PC for that cost fix like a number of things in my house. I could buy actually to I could probably by three laptops for that. Right. Goodbye. Mac for that price for phone for one phone for a device. It's not. I honestly can't find the value in it spending that much like I'm having a hard time spending or wanting to spend two to eight hundred dollars on a new phone now, I'm still using a four almost five year old galaxy S five smartphone because one is still functions. Granted the battery life just blows chunks, and I've had a replacement, and it still doesn't last very long. But. It kind of makes me wonder like if we're outgrowing the items faster than what we need to. I guess it's just the new the new hotness. Gotta gotta you know, going to catch them all to get upgrade. But I guess that it's going to be obviously the natural progression of the original razor. I'm wondering how much of it's going to retain the style of the original one wins all sudden done because I sincerely doubt people are going to want the bottom of the clam shell of the original razor, where it's not usable screen of some sort. So I'm wondering how how well they're going to do this and how well it's going to emulate the original phone with its long and instant form. Now, that's Lenovo owns it. So yeah, we'll see. We'll see how well I guess Motorola's kind of kind of patent on some folding smartphone design that they since put into place in June, featuring a heated central hinge that would heal imperfections in the oh LED screen caused by the bending. So. Wall. I'm. Interested to see how well that works. It makes you wonder how long it's going to work. In like, Mike said, it's it's another gimmick. And so like, I honestly don't know. I don't get me wrong. If the price was right? I would get one. But it's it's not gonna be cheap at all. Which means that the other phone's should drop significantly with everybody trying to get on this gimmick. And then that's when I'll jump ship to new phone. But it's it's it's touted to be around fifteen hundred dollars, according to various sources while the Samsung galaxy Fulla bowls, let's be like twenty five hundred dollars, which why why would somebody do that? Like, I just I don't understand that. But I guess that's kind of the difference between myself in somebody who's. Trying to get the latest and greatest of everything. No, one of the fun things that came out. They they had see. Yes. Last week and the entire industry was all over it. So Google unveiled an instant translator. Yeah. A universal translator. It's it sounds a lot like Star Trek at this point. So I guess that you know in regards to their Google assistant. They're trying to have this new built in future. Call the interpreter mode. So basically, what it is is a new feature that is a role as an update over the next couple of weeks on Google home devices and smart displays so if you're in a foreign country or meeting with a person who does not speak the same language as you the Google assistant can't be used as a translator or more. So as an interpreter to order to get real time translations of words and sentences as in when you speak in the form of voice output, as well as text unscreened end the conversation, which is kind of cool. It also kind of breaks down that language barrier of having to learn a new language or say something incorrectly. In offend somebody and say something completely wrong because let's face it English is about the only language where you. It kind of is what it is. And there's like multiple meetings for everything. Whereas like everybody else has like kind of more normalized speech patterns. But anyways, the interpreter moat can be triggered by saying. Hey, Google be my French interpreter or Spanish interpreter or or whatever. So if you want to translate its. From or to French and replace with any language want. And yeah, so. But there's been a lot of tech. That's that's been touted over the last year or two of translator tack in interpreter tech and for Google to be finally getting on this bandwagon. It's kind of a big deal at this point. But it it should be it should be very impressive. When this gets rolled out. I'll be looking forward to seeing because I'm sure they'll be YouTube videos of it like crazy, although it might be fun to to get the Google home in ask it how to say things in a different language just to see what it says. So some more interesting things that came up at CBS was Samsung. Introduce its first micro LED display. Yes, there is such thing as micro LED. And if you're not familiar with that. It's like a very. It's basically the LED, but it's very small and then. It's supposed to have some kind of a significant improvement over standard LED televisions? I it's. It's hard to say whether it's gonna like really take off. It could be just another one of those like gimmicks that that kind of get thrown into the television world, but it only time will tell but regardless. They. Showed it off at S. And they used a hundred and forty six inch television to show it off. And yeah, no, another interesting thing that that came out to was bell nexus. It's basically an air taxi. It's got the vertical takeoff and landing structures. So it's like kind of a wing structure with the helicopter propellers looks kind of like a helicopter albeit differently and in very much like a flying car to put it lightly so bell best known for building. Helicopters for eight years made its futuristic concept easier to visualize by building a full-size glossy black slightly intimidating version of its proposed five-seater flying machine dropping it in the middle of the transportation section of ES. Yeah. It it looks epic. It's it's like across the they say a cross between an electric helicopter in a person sized drone in his six duct fans that sit horizontally for liftoff, but then rotate to a vertical orientation for efficient for flight. And they they hope that it will convince people that flying cars really are coming soon. Again, we'll see they're hoping to have this in production in full force by twenty twenty five. So we'll see what happens. I it's always interesting to see what comes out of CAS because there's a lot of innovation of. But there's also a lot of things that are there before its time. So I'm very interested in in. How this plays out to be honest and. I just I love tech. And then that of course, there's a new TV by visiting it's the smart cast in. So basically, how the voice assistance don't are compatible with multiple things. The video is one of the first companies to change that process by making it able to connect to elector Google and Siri by showing off its smart cast three point zero and saying that the latest edition of its TV interface will work with the will home Alexa in Apple's Siri over airplane to no matter. What voice assistant us you can stream apps just the volume cast video control smart home devices and performance ever escalating number of tasks on video TV's, but they're saying that there's going to be an update for for new and old TV's later this spring to do this which is kinda cool that you could do that. In in the first place. I mean, it's crazy. How much stuff is powered by my my father-in-law tried out his his Google home. And and he has like lights hooked up to it. He has all all kinds of equipment poked up to it, withered, smart, bulbs, or smart, plugs, and. Yeah. It's it's quite interesting to to see how far we've come into that Star Trek realm with technology. Other also touting that basically five g you might as well just forget about it for right now because they're saying that. They're saying that it's gonna change everything. Everybody's talking about it. And everybody's predicting everything. And all these crazy capabilities and proclamations that are coming out. Basically, they're saying now that you know to see real five, gene, wait another year because. Yeah. The the devices. Designed to receive them and the the speed in the data signals won't be a reality for at least a year lie the next generation cellular standard holds the. The next capabilities for the five, gene. So they're they're saying that a lot of these demonstrations are very misleading and. Basically boasting that over the first offer of five G network. Even though they they really aren't because there's a lot of just basically the Equipment's not fully there yet fully integrated. Because they're saying that we should be able to have like Verizon five G home internet with. They're saying that five G connected devices should have light speeds of nine hundred megabits per second. And or up to empowering. You know, Qualcomm having having new chips that we'd be powering thirty plus five g smartphones. It'll the launch in two thousand nineteen and so we really haven't had anything come out yet. That's gonna utilize it. And so I do kind of agree with that. But I guess you're saying that. That they're touting that there's going to be ten gigabits per second to your phone, which is six hundred times faster than four G and ten times faster than Google's fiber. That would be awesome. Especially, you know, if you're you're dumb any movies or you wanna like four K foam from from Netflix or. You know, if you're powering something, that's an vehicle or just a variety of things. It just remains to be seen what they're going to do with it. Once it actually comes out. Yeah. The AT and T's got their smartphone. Some of their new Samsung algae's saying five G in the phone status bar, which is evolution not. Actually. It's it's supposed to signal faster speeds over it doesn't. And in Verizon is been called out for you know, it's it's it's five G or new radio. It's not even fully five G. So we're we're a little bit of ways before that before that comes. But yeah, I mean, I it's it's crazy the stuff that that comes out to see. Yes. I always enjoy looking at all the the crazy contraptions and. I'm still still not exciting for driving cars, but that are automated. But it's it's coming in eventually if if they can get like things like five G and all these these satellites all kind of squared away. We'll we'll see what happens on that front. But yeah. Tons tons going on with that whole that whole system like hand-eye showed off like walking car. It's ES where essentially it. Stands up like it's small model car, and it you can activate robotic legs to walk three miles per hour over rough terrain, so it it literally can climb a five foot wall in jump of five look gap. What reasoning you'd need to use that? I don't know. But it could be helpful. If you were. You know trying to. Get somebody across something if if there's like, a natural disaster and emergency, and then that's kind of why they developed it in the first place is is for that kind of scenario. But they're saying that the the land of the concepts which they may or may not make it into production. It's it's great to think of new ways of mobility. But it's it's kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting. So that'll be something that will have to look forward to seeing if it actually takes off. And then Amazon prime I think we talked about this last year. They're saying that there's a. Away that they'll be able to deliver it to your garage with a key by Amazon as a delivery service where they can physically put it in your garage instead of having it in your front door and get taken. So basically, it'd be calling an Amazon key or key by Amazon because everything's by Amazon. But but it's kind of it's it's. Basically like a key for business service for the most part at the moment. But the integration is the Amazon owned ring home security app and in garage delivery, using chamberlain's connected, Raj doors and new Schleswig in code WI fi connected locks added to the program in other smart locks by Schleicher Yale and quick set. And I it it'll be interesting to see how that takes off. I don't know if. A lot of people are going to subscribe to that like I personally, and I agree with some of the reviews of thoughts on its of that it's kind of intrusive, and I personally would not want some stranger dumping stuff in my garage or walking in my garage. But yeah, I I don't know. It's it's. I I don't know how well that's going to take off. But I can imagine if you're in a high. Hi. Hi going area. You may not want people just walking up and taking your junk off your porch and stealing it. So. You know, like Flint. LG also has a groundbreaking role of TV that's going on sale this year. It's four K TV that rolls up. And. Yeah. Expensive expensive expensive expensive. No, thank you. But yeah, it's it's it's supposed to have you know, the the regular design. They showed off a sixty five inch role -able prototype. It's ES with a four K. Oh, LED TV and. It'll it'll go on sale in the spring. It's going to have a hundred Dolby. Atlas speaker for built in audio. But. Yeah. It's it's got some kind of a setup very similar to when when you see those displays at conventions when people have their posters standing up with like, the the mount in the back of of the the posters that kind of fold up and everything. So what it does is essentially, it'll it'll slide into this base, which will essentially turned into a table after all sudden done, and then the back will slide over and covered up. So that. It completely in cases where the TV went. But. Yeah. They've also got a mode it called line mode. Where the display will drop down. So that only about one fourth of the panel showing and they say like, basically, you can use it for, you know, music. So that you can just see what you're playing and that's about it. It's gonna have support for Alexa, voice controls as well as Google assistant and things of that nature. I don't know. I i'm. I'm interested. But that's going to be one expensive puppy there. There's they're gonna have a ton of HDMI USB in the bag from what they show, and it looks like connects to the box not to the to the TV, but it's gonna have a ton of chips, and it had tons of HD. Our color is supposed to be basically a signature backs of how it sets up. But that that things can be about eight grand to start out. And they're gonna start rolling those out to run March. I guarantee you're not gonna see many people having these things. And then for some reason they're making a big deal MasterCards dropping its name from the company logo which. And then Intel, of course, has has a new processor which is coming out. It's supposed to be like, the ninth Jin CPU's, very very very very small free powerful. There ten nanometer processors dubbed cannon lake. So. Or ice league? It's new ice lake design, which is what they're going. Now it's supposed to be out for the holidays later this year. And they're saying there's going to have a compatibility gen eleven graphics can activity with wifi six thunderbolt three ten nanometer architecture in higher performance for integrated and ongoing. So these are going to be. On their new Corey threes and court I nine ships, which I didn't know we were on the ninth generation of of these core chips because I think I'm on the fourth gen my computer here, and it I mean it runs great. But still like I didn't realize I was that far in the stone age because I know that there are DDR four now from memory, and I have DDR three. I just recently plugged in. And this is the other thing too since we last spoke on the podcast. I recently upgraded. My computer to the latest version of windows ten now there's a couple of reasons for that. I did it because. One is a security issue. It more. So I had to do with that more than anything else. Plus, my my friends were ragging on me about it about thinking, the windows, XP realm and. So I I did the upgrade it had like three versions of windows upgrade over top the benefit of doing. So though there were benefits to this. It allowed me to. Free up a lot of space on my my see drive. Now, granted I moved my did manage to pull out. I don't remember. If anybody remembers his story or not, but ordered my first solid state hard drive from Amazon like a couple years ago, and it was a Kingston hundred twenty gig, forty bucks at the time. You can get five hundred for like sixty now. But it didn't come. And then so I contacted them. They overnight anyone two weeks later. My other one shows up so I-, anyways, I've had this thing in the box. For awhile forgot, why never used it found an old hundred sixty gig hard-driving might computer that doesn't work think it was my old, cedar. I've and then. So I played this move my Google Drive contents over that drive. So that wasn't on my see drive. So that freed up a little bit of space in mind, you I only had ten gigs free at the time so installed. The update I managed to free up twenty eight gigabytes of windows garbage from the. Fifteen hundred series version of windows. Ten now mind you we're on late eighteen oh nine or something now. So we've had like three or four different versions of windows ten since then with anniversary updates and everything else. So I managed to clean up a lot of that using the new built in disk, leaner, and it was able to scrub it clean. And then it was able to use it again because I might five hundred gig. Hard-drive? That's that's my mighty drive. I had about forty gigs of windows garbage from one ahead windows seven installed on. But it won't let me delete it. And it was able to help me with that too. And so I was able to again, all the way round is able to free up a lot of space. So. Anybody that's hesitant getting off of an old version of windows ten at this point. There's really no reason to stick with the old one. And this is coming from somebody who fought for as long as possible. The only thing I had an issue with when I upgraded was I lost my sticky notes app when she can get again. But I lost all the notes I had on there. So bummer. And I lost my ability to record initially. But I didn't know it until I went to a recording on Tuesday. In the night hand, these M E errors in was unable to. Record anything through either microphone on any software, whether it be Skype or a w addition or DASS ity would not record spent an hour and a half messing with it. Come to the conclusion. I install k light codex from khaza like kazaa or K like go to X anyways, installed them everything came back functioned brand new. So I see that. To basically mean that if you're having problems, there's always a way around it. So just. Yeah. So just watch watch for that in the future. So I guess that's going to rounded out for this episode of alter meek next week. 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Eugenio Caballero - Painting a Lot of the Forest

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Eugenio Caballero - Painting a Lot of the Forest

"Reading pages podcast dedicated to take seems designs. Your TV shows an episode designed for some of Hollywood's interviews from Seneca Raiders designers directors actors creating about their designs relations stories that take hello and welcome to decorating pages. I'm your host Kim on while another week in quarantine I'm in Los Angeles. It was a little hot here the past week. But it's cold down which is great because Aware that mask in the heat's not too much fun and I break out like a thirteen year old girl but keeping that mask on keeping safe still so many articles coming out about how our industry will get this altogether and get us back to work but The latest is that California's GonNa be on another three-month restrictions. So I have no idea. I'm not even going to talk about it. 'cause I have no clue and I think everyone's just frustrated with how many options we actually have and what it will actually be to get us all back to work I'm kind of okay with staying home but I know a lot of people aren't I want to again. Thank him row for last week's episode Talking about the best designs of the decades brackets got really great feedback on those brackets and how fun the episode was and funny. So thank you Adam for that. Also a couple of new reviews popped up on itunes. Thank you so much for that. The whole game of getting the podcast notice in subscribers. It's like a lot like a fulltime job. It's crazy how important that little subscribe button. News and the reviews are to this big podcast game. So thank you so much. If you have the time please just click little five stars or you know you could be honest. Five stars that's-that's honest. I appreciate it thank you. So what's one up watching this week? still hanging in there with that Mrs America. I'm almost watching every episode twice. It's so good I mean who is kind of. I'm seriously they're being a bitch. Only releasing wanted a a one week. I don't we're in a pandemic. Just give it to us. I don't understand the one week thing. I Dunno very old school But it's made so well the story of the era in the Anti era. Which I did not know about so. I'm being educated while they watch this. I just find it all really interesting so relevant about the extremes we have in this country and it's so beautifully done in period and even they the way they shoot it to make it look older. I'm just I'm all in started did to me but only one episode in but I love the look of it. Brandy Kayla the set decorator does a phenomenal job on that. I I really do that. Whole House Let us quickly. They did the fourth season of working moms. Which is also a net. Flicks did that in one night. But they're quick. They're like twenty minutes long. You Zip right through it. There's only eight episodes not like a crazy person but any working mom out there. This show is hysterical and completely relatable first two episodes the two seasons were really good and it's drifting off a little but it's I don't know I find it really funny it's Catherine Reitman like produces stars and writes it and she is Ivan Reitman's daughter and just I think huge talent I I I think the look of the show is probably really good for the money that they have And it's relatable I think I think it's a good look I wanted to let you know a couple episodes That we have coming up. I'll have part two of This episode next week. And then I have Bob Shaw the production designer of like Sopranos the Irishman And then I have Corey Lorenzen. Who Does the GOLDBERGS and Brian stonestreet coming up. Who Does every word show that you have watched ten years so yeah a lot of great interviews coming up so I hope I hope you enjoy them on this episode? I speak with production designer in Gino Caballero which I pray 'em pronouncing that right. I doubt it but I WANNA man. I really hope I'm doing him justice. I have not met him. He was very kind. Do this interview He started out designing music videos and then move himself decorating to production designing. He talks about developing his skills in his project. How he collaborated with Guillermo del Toro on Pans Lab Earth how he used certain. Color Palettes in that film to distinguish the fantasy scenes. Just a beautiful conversation about that. He talks about his current show. Cortez shutting down for the pandemic and his passion of the project in a very personal relationship That he has with it camera. It has been nominated five times for the Ariel Award. Which is Mexico's main film award? He has one two for Roma. He has a an academy award nomination. Bafta word critics choice award. Nominations for best production design he has the Oscar for Pan's labyrinth And just a very sweet man hit the. The voice is like velvet as you'll see so Just a really great interview with him. I'll have part two of that next week where he goes more into talking about. Roma in that process and just wonderfully illustrates how he designs things in. It was so truly inspiring to me getting to speak with him and then listening to this again. I'm very thankful that he gave me this time and I learned from him so I am thankful once again sorry for the meltdown of my twins that you hear in the background I duNNo. They're pretty happy kids. I think what it is really my mom stage and because of my fair so I hope you enjoy nylon have would stop one. Why work and inspired other. And it's been great. I've really had it. It's probably more selfish than anything. I feel so it's been great though and I'm super lucky that people Give me any time. So Yeah. So were you working. When when were you working when the yeah and how was it scary? I will I would love. I would love to say that I'm still working. The everything's very uncertain. Now see yes. I was him wanting a very isolated place. We were shooting These these Mini series Very ambitious project with with Amazon and the Amblin about the conquest of Mexico. So we've been working from almost a year in the production needs we the whole replicas of you know of all the props and and The sets charge huge. The biggest ones that I've that I've done in my career And they are they still there so we were shooting just for one week the first week of shooting the first two weeks where you're supposed to be on a beach that it's a it's it's Beach is called Salamanders Garages. Would she's a you know a very isolated place so we were there fracking for one month. All of the people that were there were of our crew that were really not go strangers and so we started hearing these in just one week before they decided to stop it in a very own a very abrupt way. You know like we didn't finish even the first week of shooting. You know which was a judge was kind of a shocking in every and Saad I. We knew that the what was the idea behind. You know just a action of a route one A. Bugged you know how how much you were in order to get a you know. One of these massive sets no. They're they're they're months and months of preparation. So we we understood and we obviously of the we. We agreed that we but but it was kind of a sad. It was kind of a one day was full of live. The other day was empty and then trying to understand how tomb Montaigne does sets You know for for a certain period of time in order to see what's GonNa Happen. I mean the logistics of shutting down. A show isn't just turning the lights off. I mean I worked Once we were done I still worked another two weeks just on well the rentals. And what are we going to do with this? You know the scenery or we holding it and the trucking and now we don't have any trucking to move it so it is. I mean we weren't shooting so I can't say like I had that experience but I can imagine how hard it is the logistics of getting it to shutdown that quickly. Well people stayed stoking. They were for you know some some of them were for two more weeks. You know with a lot of protection and a lot of rules and things in our to close at least these stage You know like Because you know you had to put plastic. We had the sets huge sets in stage. They were so there was really not a problem. State you just close it and give a little mundane but you know it's it's a studio so it's it's it's Okay. Then there was some other which are exteriors you know. We had one specific that that was already. You know build and dressed in allegations. Wrap IT TO WRAP IT UP. And then we had our massive said which basically as the recreation of the of the Michika. Cd OF You know a plan. Which was you know? It's a huge. He'd said really complex it so so we need to have a lot of construction people covering up with plastic and you know Pulling Especial Code in order to maintain the longer and you know those kind of things at them and then the strange thing is that the is not of the we had some brand pills from Europe and especially specifically from Italy. That was a big close and they said just keep the things. We'll talk later. Everybody so I in a certain was neil for everyone also the way of Ruppi. You have to find your own ways. Yeah it definitely. I think everyone there was no answers. So everyone's just being as open as we can to where we don't know what to do and you don't know what to do so let's just we'll figure it out. I think everyone is kind of cool like that. At least on my end to of we don't know either so the real thing is what's going to happen nasty. These still everything is a lot of projects are on the air. You don't really know what is really going to happen. Positive of the these will Kadena on. I'm really really hoping that that just because you know we have been you know. We have spent a huge amount of resources in these huge amount of diamond. And it was it it it. It is a product that it's important to us. Mexicans you know because the governor was have never been portrayed dignifying way you know look at and talking about creativity. We're really being it on kind of a regardless of the research and not just the research but the also artistic interpretation of that and for me. It's great to be. I mean. I was lucky that I was working in Mexico. Because normally you know the eighty percent of my time I would be in or in Europe. Boringly are in New York and so so being even it was location but its location that it's flagging forty five minutes from home and the actually gates where would be when we when we go up so so that was a an interesting thing just because we good stay in in in the location which was a you know a beautiful beach for of these three four days. Meanwhile we figure out what what what was happening and and how we GONNA go back to to learn you know mccomb but then but that was really lucky that it was that and that is started. We Roma you know before Rama. I have no shot of film in Mexico from. I think almost in ten years. You know like a or something like that I was. I was shooting outside. Because you know Mexico's seeping Mexico's Hitler was not a lot of projects so show or or there were certain products that that that That were cool but the other ones that we're offer outside we're you know. Maury morning or something but that's at the end. I went out to For many years from Mexico City so so funds abroad me back to the Roma and I had a wonderful connection. With you know with my cd again so so gotta start at there and now on could off to to these project to and then did you. I mean I would love to get into Rome. It's such a love letter to the city and the people I mean. It's it's just stunning that film I wanted to ask I How did you get into the business? How did you start in in all this? You know a little bit by chance like everyone in in those days now. I knew that I love seeing him. A- I knew that I loved the arts as well so I was not really clear on what to do. Actually have ice started to Michael lawyer again but the but then you know so I did my you know I did one semester in getting a huge crisis and then I went to Europe in which in study history of art and and history of Seen Florence so I was there for almost three years when I went back to Mexico Alison in death crisis. What should I do if I really WANNA? I A career in visual in. Let's say in film but back then in Mexico think that you could survive making films was almost you impossible just because you know there were you know. It's a huge country and we were making seven eight fields a year but then in a rage so that's nothing so nothing not now. Now we're doing one hundred and sixty one hundred seventy films but it's been a constant battle since then just in in the way we produce seen him because he's a very different way. We produce in our countries. I mean certain countries in Europe or Mexico or Latin American than than than in the states. Just because we don't have a a solid industry In a healthy industry so we depend the load of a funds you know and their state like sound state. Is there like a studio system? They're like one or two studios. Well I mean but not like ages because we have stages because we had a golden era of Mexican films some bucking the you know. Feed decent sixty so the main studios use that. We are come from the sixties. They're beautiful they're they're they're they're there and then all of the. I'm thinking I'm talking about film industry in the but you know the a lot of television always and then we produced a Lotta film that was on the seventies eighties and nineties. There was lot of studio Hollywood films that came to shoot to Mexico. You know like a lot of them. So you know there's facilities that were built or where deigned were created by by by that and that not now now we have you know we have a a series of studios and now we're we're doing a lot of series in Mexico is it's it's thriving healthier situation that that the one of twenty five years ago or almost thirty years ago when I started like or twenty twenty something but but the so my friends that were some of them were stuggling communication or cinema and the and and and the week we were. We had a lot of friends in the music is seen in Mexico by then we all you know leading some broderick bands and somebody would. I came back from from Europe with my own with my own luggage. Let's say of knowledge. Some of my friends start to do music videos or some other friends so so the music videos were an important start up in here. You know he was the MTV fear yards and so creative and you were able to do so much they were so popular. Yeah absolutely that was that was the you know the big rig west. Was that just to be extremely creative. Do you have a lot of resources? But you had a lot of freedom and a lot of possibility of creation so we started to make some videos and saw that we became a successful group. In that. In that sense I was the first my third video. I want an empty award for production design. And what is it? Let's go Chilanga von Isa Music video from a Mexican band that was extremely extremely popular. But then so is is your mood man next year. Oscar is my. Is Your Mum Man. Actually by more than was scared by the Looser and we had a huge fight for that then. I know that you know that was in that moment I was a I was not in the position that I am out. Yeah and then you know I just I just just let it pass over a and then and then we and then from there Some friends started also to. Do you know a lot of shorts in the school of Cinema. They need to this. You know short films so we started doing a of short films as well so I found myself get a very. You're very easy very weakly in a creative position then. I knew that I needed to exert really wanted to make cinema and that was not really am. I thought it was not if I would just keep doing you know commercials for music media. It will be a complete the A complete growth for me a complete a different path for me so I started to make seen him up as an assistant of of many production designers back then I was very young and I worked with three or four that we're working in cinemas. Obviously the conditions were not. There were not the best but then I found a bridge. Jeep broke his production designer. An asset decorator. She'd I wish was nominated for an Oscar. Also she got an Oscar. I think for our sh- may be of and the and the Romeo and Juliet that we made together so so I was. I was working with her force. You know some years as He's he's he's said the greater And and then ninety props Lou with her in and we were a group of young guys that were working with her and then so she brought us to to Romeo and Juliet which was the first week industrial film that I witnessed. That was back in. I think ninety ninety four or something like that. I was twenty two years old or something like that three and then it was. A blast was a huge experienced at beautiful experience. Working with you know with buys learned man in Catherine Mar. I really learned a lot. I I I I knew that my work Was really you know big of difference in the result of the film so I felt very comfortable and very happy and the very inspired and then I learned those of the that there were another way of making films that you could you know that you can dream in higher order that you can aspired to something a little bit more complex or unexpected and so so that was a huge school for me and after that I started doing my own films? Assad selection designers locally in Mexico than I did a some projects in that in America that led me to Spain into yet more thought. Oh do you know what what to the Gracie thing that happened? Afterwards also I went to do some film to the states before before I before I did. The events laver in a I work in in a couple of films in in California. I know before that SPO- films not as the production designer Our director back. Then too and then and then went to when they started to do my own films. It was again very hard to leave from the to get your income usually go from from filmmaking. So I combined it with the with commercials with some advertisement and and southern data It was beautiful because he led me to certain tools. A certain scale that it was very hard to see in the films. I was very young and we were really building stages stages stages for commercials. Because that was I would say that. A golden era for you know for for for Iceland so I learned a lot from from there. He gave me a lot of tools. But then it was It was a very natural that started to you. Know to get to require more time more. You know more thoughts and and also I was trying to develop sorry there was. There's an alarm that it's other. So do you hear learn more. We right there. I can barely hear it. But that's so but you can hear me well right. Yes you're clear your clear now so so then. I started to develop my own my own language. Do you know that got? What do I WANNA do in this in this business tool and with my field with my creation and and And obviously the things that you learned were from the great directors that I work with. I have been extremely lucky to work with the you know with people that I That I admire a lot and had you know that I received a lot of A. You know lessons from there you know from the Houston of visual effects from my phone so to the way you look to a space from jar you know from these are those said blast of creation of minimum total. You know and I work with Alexander was nearing and by your now which is a persistent than a very clear storyteller so each one of them you know always bring things and how it hard to work with a director Geir Mo like who already had so much visual Ideas and I mean he is such a fantastic sketch artist and had it. I WOULD ASSUME HAD IT. All in his head already knew really what he wanted. Is that hard than to get your input in their The is challenging. Evidently again the beautiful thing is that at least on my on my experience with him. We're close friend ends now. We did together there. The exhibition for him. I designed curated on design and exhibition for him which was a mainstay experienced through. And that but when you know when we started funds laboratory not I mean it was in in Canada. In Festival WE WENT TO PRESENT. A film is called chronic in which he was the producer and film that we did iniquity and and you know he and better than the producer also they. They taught me meal for the Knicks. Still yet they. They saw the day had something that that that they that they liked and So so Moto told me I WANNA have dinner with you. An that was in Incan and two hours. He taught me a beautiful story. The story that you know with a lot of the deals with a lot of connections with some bishops information but especially the story. No me what he has. He was having dinner so it was a complete fees for beat the see him. You know hockey in e team. Meanwhile I was there like I couldn't. I barely could look me Beijing. Some notes and that and trying to two and then finished their meal and the story at the same time and she said well. I need to go. You know but I haven't I haven't read the script so I have this story but I I don't have screen so I will look for you when I had the script now and let me there. You know in the tables so I was like okay. So how the hell am I going to you know I? I had not not a lot of experience. I was very young very young on my on. My mid twenty. Yeah No. I haven't done a film and Spain for that moment. I HAVEN'T I. I knew I know the story of the civil war of Spain for family reasons but that but I'm not an expert on it and especially I have not done fantasy or Peter Fantas you know so so so it was a i. I said well I must really working day so I quit everything that I was doing it a little projects here. They're nice to the. That's a five to six months to year mode took to write the script to research and to put myself on my mind in the bragging so so I did The result of the research the research when I went to you know to certain libraries that yet I knew that year Mo Liked in Paris I went to to correct of the gold-washed Beats Vika now. I went to Spain schedule to you. Know to go to the places that I already knew some of them but that that I went to two I went back to four. Two guys. Do Lucky later Where you're gonNA wear the the the the the well you know. It's his fired so you know all of these things. I went into a deep historical research. You know me as a sex as the Our distribution I have a you know a very specific metallo of of research and so I went there In research and when he came to me and said the script I gave it to him. You know a we all reference and object. That it's there you can see is somewhere in the in publishing something a couple of places in in in the web and and it's an object that somehow reflect what. I wanted to do with the film so what I thought it was so so it and said this is a great you know to for for for talking. And he already had some drawings as well so it was a a real interesting collaboration. You know it was not known not even both Google and then and I knew that the that the Yamaha very clear certain images but there were a lot of a chance for feed those other gaps with what we have research and and we have a very challenging shooting. Slavering was probably one of the most difficult things in my career it. Oh it was hard for everyone and it was hard because of the conditions were hard because nobody at the beginning believing the film now. That was too strange for this Spanish. You know producers at the beginning and then they really stood up and it was. It was on incredible a end of the process. We were old tense and the I re watched this week. I mean I think I've seen it a couple times anyway but I wanted to watch it and to me the the color in it and the the debt and the the Real emotion that you get out of of the color and the darkness of I is so gorgeous and then I don't go ahead. I'm sorry we you know we. We really very strict rules with callers and shape in order. We really wanted to different bold words and the and and the mirror them. Somehow you know so. And so that's why you know we choose a this cold lead for reality and you know and the warm For the for you know for the fantasy that supposed to be the most scary but at the end it is the ref the refuge or the shelter for this girl. So you know there's a lot of a levels of connection and friends like one of the things that nobody really understood at the very beginning is the way we were building up that many furniture in know because at the end a lot of the furniture that it's on the field. It's it's it's built from scratch and why was built from scratch because we really wanted to change the scale we wanted to have a little bigger and with a certain code of of you know of shapes and things so we found a beautiful furniture from the north of Spain that would have certain quality that the that we liked and and we use it as a dot as base but we made a lot of specific furniture for for the film and the and then one part of the story and that was a very wise decision I think from edible and part of the story of the original story was happening in a train station so that the the mother and failure would come instead of a car in the middle of the forest seasonal wins inning. No Yeah She would come in a in a train and arrived to a train station after the war. You know so we will see the remains or let's say the damage that were the were has has brought to it then he had that we scouted some train station. We had some action problems you know about about that and and then get vote was thinking in thinking alone in these insane. You know if we keep everything in the forest it works. The story works more leg. I'm you know like like a classic tale like the you know. Once upon a time there was a meal in the middle of a forest and in that for as we see a girl coming so so everything work with their we disown rules and you can somehow break them or establish the rules yourself Not that you cannot do it in in China in other film. That has the you know some more realistic sets but the but it definitely helped to keep it contained in. That sort of you know fareed dark fairy tale context. You know like a soap so it was a very interesting move and and then we were very strict with a said. We the rules that we tools like for example in the northern Spain where the story took place or takes place. The the forest are beautiful. They're like s nuts. And you know my very magical very organic very scariness certain right right and green lush and Berry like a fairytale agreement thing but then would we scout those ones we we we we had before. We had the stabbed. The of of reality has to have a lot of angles. Straight lines sharp things. There is not very organic. It's called is. It is really aggressive to her. And then fantasies organic is embracing is is you know it's sheltering it's it's it's warm at the end so so then we made this question. Okay we have this beautiful locations of these forests. That didn't end up in the film though. There was the first intuition western. Look for this beautiful forest on the north of Spain and then we decide well. No the forest forest belongs to the to the reality to the fantasy so we cannot have these. You know we cannot have these. These beautiful location goes because we've decided that the rule has to be done when so we went to look for a Pine Forest. Which has these straight lines and massive trees and this kind of thing so we found the note at One it's the one that it's in the field that is beautiful do but the but it's in a different way so he has a lot of the straight lines and just because the pines are straight over spikes in no in a certain way and when she's running the governor's moving definitely get you definitely get the sense that it looks like a jail like the bars of a jail so so this is sort of the tissues are the ones that. I think that made the difference. Obviously we went to these for is that we choose was beautiful. We scouted it and then it was the driest a year in the years the whatever and then we were Building either you know the half of a of the forest that was beautiful green in start to defer to start to you know when yellow and then died and then everything you know. Start to lead. The changing. The mosque is scary. Way So we ended up fainting Lord of the forest and adding our own. Fake You know keeping in trees to the forest we end up printing Firms that are blessed Magic movie magic. That was so terrible. I did notice to What I guess. I didn't pay attention to before. Didn't remember was there is such textures on the walls and and how that As a child to see this like place that you're being brought to and I I don't know I didn't notice it before but I noticed it in this viewing of all of your paint layers being peeled away and how significant that is to the story. I just thought it was like such a nice little Sort of design detail that you had in their beautifully done. Well I'm obsessive with the CYNIC paid. They have to see it. Say IT'S I. I'm a nightmare with my art directors. Above no I they they really hate music because you know the first thing that I adopted them when I met him. His Co. Hawaii very nice to the Jose Luis will be our being taught. That is the big question leads very important. It's a it's really really not having good painters and being able to get the color and texture and it's and quickly it's A. It's a really important job in joy painting allowed to soak. So you know I'm I'm affectionate about that at Stowe and I developed a nice way of speaking with with my crew in general because at the end is what we do. Now we try. We try to convince the people to get into into your mind and that ended the end you know. Bring the best thing that you crew cab can bring to the project too but also explain them. Why do you want certain things you know like what are the Greeson for certain decisions behind an I do speak with Betas Law about story more than textures itself which I which I You know which enjoyed speaking of text is also. What is the story of these wall? What had happened here in. Oh those kinds of things that allowed you to go to. It ought to another place and had not I? You can see it in March films. My films are always You know seeming paint has A an important storytelling behind also is the reasons is the way I worked with. Said the graders like I love to let people work and but I questioned. Why every every everything? I tried to explain that. It's not about you know personal taste. You know for me I have not done. My personal tastes have changed a lot within within the years in twenty years. I I hate what I loved twenty years ago and they'll think only I even in my you know in my own personal. You know as as a as a moot assembled both as a Mughal sumer like the things that I wrote like before and now a lot of them. I feel that they're you know the shoe or they were they or they have a Fischel and the and I suppose that doesn't that's normal. That's normal part of that but what I think is that the but but the only the only way to D- only way that I developed in order to do for your film or your proposal in the film not getting old is not putting a safely what you like but what the story needs and I know that a lot of people talks about that. But there's there's some there's a wake of doing in the I'm still fighting still fighting with the way of of bringing that always to you know to a next level of of of of transmission. You know at the end for me. Everything is reduced in in in in in in Makefield the audience in in in in preview circle. Feeling you give a little bit of of a of bringing emotions in. That's the whole thing for me. Could you just internet voice wherever I mean? Read the comeback. My Gosh again listening to the process that he had with Guillermo del Toro on pens library and creating this with olive is input. 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87 - Ghostbusters (w/ Open Mike Eagle & Neil Cicierega)

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87 - Ghostbusters (w/ Open Mike Eagle & Neil Cicierega)

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Things first of all this episode was recorded in front of a live lovely crowd at the Exit Festival Portland Oregon this past weekend and if you don't want to just listen into the episode you can actually watch all of it on our Youtube Channel because it was filmed you can check that youtube dot com slash pump up the jam we had a blast and it really shows thank you so much the wonderful audience and are terrific guests in the friendly open atmosphere of the festival and of course the Grayson supportive and e Bay on Anti Macmillan Co founders of the festival so really big thank you to all of them especially to the Andes for helping us film record episode all for you and secondly. I want to give a big. Thank you to everyone who listens if you're somehow just popping that was absurd without having heard any others. You'll be very surprised to learn that this is my last episode which is a very bittersweet bummer doing this episode in particular was some of the most fun of ever had on stage and it really reminds me of why. I love doing this and I'm GonNa Miss.. Getting to have weekly fun like this my best friend and for all of you but it's it's not a sad occasion. It's a fun Joyce. One and I hope you all enjoyed as much as we enjoyed recording it. Thank you so much for a lovely almost two years and please keep listening meals meal's going to carry this podcast on. She's going to do a job. You're not gonNA want to miss it a promise. It's time for him. caballo punches pilots the well. Was it punches pilot. What's it like Pontius pilot the WHO was he the guy who killed Jesus. Someone yelled a little too enthusiastically tickly budget. Try not to cry. Hello my name's Michelle. My name is not for the last time tomorrow. Named becomes meal aw this is very exciting to be here so festival. Thank you very much for having us. Thank you so much for coming out guys for staying. I am curious. The how many people are familiar with this show. Oh Hell yeah all right well for the what three of you that are her yeah. Let's not count. I see you and I'm clocking you and thank you for taking a chance on little Oles so what we're GONNA do know. Oh God it's where we're going to do. You know what we're GONNA do today. We're GONNA talk about a a beloved song then we're GonNa talk about why it sucks or is great. It's got or why it's good and then at the end we're going to say even though it's good we fixed it and we made a better better version damaged it today. I did do it and he did. Oh I really did it folks yeah a- another thing that's fun is you guys don't really know what song we're talking about because we don't announce them ever secret. Today's such a good song. I don't even WANNA waste time. We'll teasing you guys about it. I love this song and picks and that's the show ghostbusters I'm so fucking stoked and also already out of breath. Yeah I really was afraid. I was GonNa Fart or Queen during those kicks as long as you just stay away from the Mike's that'd be Kinda. Fun who'd come out here and something strange off. This is me now. Demi left the show. Oh now I've been replaced by far and he's killing it. Speaking of my ex shit you guys don't know our guest we have to you. Don't even know that was a clever segue. We do have two guests. Let's introduce them. As for the host of Comedy Center's new Negroes. Please welcome. I was trying to do a high kick. Thank you for doing a high kick with the house tried. The fanny pack await away me down yes. I and it's the template matters you came out and kicked a little thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me so exciting. She humidity second-guessed. Oh we got to know him. I mash up albums mouth moods living silence. Please sister Reba League hello. I didn't know this was a dancing. PODCAST is not actually only visual podcast episode eighty nine. We were like we should yes yeah yeah. Tom Start Dancing. I'm so excited to have both of you guys on at the same fucking time for real because I feel like of all the guests request gotten you to have been at the top for years now really we will just requesting right. They can just tweeted US anything. I hate it. Do you ever get requests for like dead people. Yes everyone's like get Abe Lincoln on the show and I don't. I don't know him also walk us it. Does he like matching punch-up Buck. You can't do it can't be done. It's a strong opinion baucus untouchable. No He's not GonNa do this okay guys. I just knew song ghostbusters. I may safely grace pushes was like I can't name one buck song. He word word up. I would like to hear from both of you guys individually or at the same time if we want to go anarchist because with this what your relationship thoughts are with ghostbusters theme song you WanNa go first OK well first of all uh like it a lot particularly even though this not we're not gonNA show. I really liked the video a lot. the video is a great example of black man with a mullet yes. It's really unique nick and I want to reproduce it and that's one of the few examples that can show people before Eddie firm family matters came along yeah just before that also the cameos while cameos credible video nice people that were in ghostbusters it so part of the video is this nineteen eighty eight Special Effects Effects Extravaganza where people appear and then they disappear and then they appear again fucking grossly for like nineteen nineteen eighty-eight Jeffrey Tambor Veto Chevy. Maybe chase they spent spent the whole budget on the first minute of the video and you're like what we're GONNA do for the rest of the video. Famous people have nothing to do with the movie saying I ain't afraid of no goes is like the whole second half. You don't be true Al Franken's in there right. Oh Gosh probably a wild set. Probably there's no set. They brought them all in separately. It's so clearly just like you come over. It's like three o'clock like dislike is it's like it was in the afternoon when they had people doing cameos. It was weird. It just went over to someone's house but like you don't have to get out of your bed just like look at the camera and say free no ghost again very much taunting a ghost to haunt you yes. It's daring a ghost to scare you. It's yeah I would never say I would never do that in real life but I do sing the song lyric all the time but you're just singing goes another difference. I I'm mouth it just in case okay yeah. That's safe. I mean that's like saying it would a condom. Yes that's how I've described my singing style raw dog every lyric. I can't no the at a respect for Ray Parker and the many people who have died I just I just don't say it Neil. What is your history with ghostbusters. I saw ghostbusters the movie as a kid and I always found it mostly kid-friendly movie movie that has some really Raunchy filthy sex stuff in it those blow job. It's got the ghost blow job. It's just the general demeanor of these men walking around and just with sticks swagger not enough talent. The first scene of the movie is Bill Murray like trying to woo student by being like hey. You're doing great at this test. It's a massive ethics violation yes and from that violation sprung job where he gets to hunt and ghosts also what it kind of goes to the hunt. What are the rules on this taunting. There's just the loved ones of people who've who've died and they're just going to say the most famous ghost in the series is a Chubby little boy who eats cake something like we gotta. Stop Him. John Belushi ghost though they loved him. That's is not my job. That's what they joked on that. I think your joy so anyway with that weird Raunchy US in mind. I did a kind of deconstructed diff- remix of ghostbusters called Boston. We got a clip I love this is more like I love this song so much. Really I feel we were excited to invite you on the podcast chest talk about ghostbuster because this is just like I really fucked myself because I can't punch it up better than you have already punched it up thank you. It's so positive that's it's fucking incredible finished version of the ghostbusters theme as far as I'm concerned thank you what I did was. I removed all references to the ghostbusters which is what makes it better. I think that is probably my first fixed. We can talk about that later but my reasoning behind that we all know we're here to bust not ghost. The I think about it. Yeah I watch splash zone. Sorry going into gallagher after dark. I'm surprised to hear you people talking about Boston yeah because as the opposite would I never i. I never bus twenty twenty. I don't want to edge. If you start fucking me you better make me aw that's the opposite of our slogan would love to see the look on all of the faces of people who are like. I don't know what the show is but I'll stick around so screened out. It's about edgy. Jew Ghost jours et Jews. There's a lot of ghostbusters porn. I'm not surprised question that was so authoritatively said yes. It made a lot of gross. Buster's is what he wanted to say. I have a question and I know it's going to sound like I'm kidding and I am not and I would actually like an answer to this. They told told us we can go. As long as we want so take your time. Ken Ghosts come meow. GHOSTS ARE COM. It really is stinky but if we're going to get serious. I don't think so because they're so bad giving head. That's how they died so every one of them died and you come back to haunt. It's because you just couldn't make anybody come good. I'm sorry this is a new lower now. Branching off the podcast cast create can come with me. Alberto can come with meal. There's this this terrible movie called. Ghosts can't do it yeah and it's real. It's what's I forget the name. Not ghostbusters porn go but it's it's about this old guy who dies and then like He. I don't care but Donald Trump is in the movie. That's what I was saying. Oh look it up. It's it's crazy you know they were. They released. It America's the sixth sense yeah who's Donald Trump. He's a little boy his face superimposed on Michel Barton. You've seen it okay so then with that said. Should we get into some notes about this. Please lease or do we. WanNa keep talking about ghost gum. We'll get me no okay. It's like Godwin's law. Every conversation eventually leads to ghost come. I just okay just quick sidebar sidebar another career when I go into a room and I say hello and he goes from here. Let me know how can I flirt with if if if the if I asked him are they there. I have to tell you the truth. No it's not like cops which by the way ghostbusters are just cops for ghosts we gotTA. I put him in jail their private security right well rival cons and they kill ghosts and like it. Did they kill them. They put them in a little boxes. Sent them in prison. They put them in jail. Yeah Aga ghostbusters or bastards goes ghostbuster. Thank you for explaining. That's the should've been the punch-up is that when the movie came out Yeah Neil nineteen eighty four. I've talked about this but one thousand nine hundred four started so many franchises. That's for sure well famous. French removed coming soon anyway ghostbusters just one of them but you got your terminator. You got your Freddy Kruger. You Got Gremlins. A bunch of stuff. Just started started in one thousand nine hundred four. My parents probably started thinking about having me. It was just like the cocaine was really good. That sounds like those are all coke fueled yeah things back in the garage the title figure out why that's cool okay one more sidebar. I once was friends with a girl whose dad was like a famous screenwriter and I peaked in his office office when I was at her house one day and he had a bulletin board his office and it just had one card pin to it and it just said titanic to question work. Hell yes hell yes. I didn't know you knew Lisa Cameron and his name is David Cameron. Go Joke though James Cameron did pitch the sequel to alien by going into a room right in alien on the board been writing s and writing as a dollar sign that's not a bit like millions rep now alien alien okay so if you didn't know the guy singing and who wrote it actually is Ray Parker junior not to be confused with senior of course we all know him very serious man this song as oh brother. This song reached number one on the billboard one hundred you surprise surprise. Have you heard this song. Yes repeatedly. That's how it got there but it's it's stayed there for three whole weeks. Yeah it was nominated nominated for a book Oskar it lost. It lost to Stevie wonder's. I just called the say I love you. They got the song to lose to. I agree even like I bet songs more famous in the movie but almost like this song is better than that song. Stevie wonder's got better songs things that song as some of them are written by Rafe Hartridge shooter rallies true. They used to work together. He was as guitarist for a long time. I WANNA I WANNA see the season of few that's them at the Oscar being like I'm going to win. No I'M GONNA win on my mind. They're like hey fred. Hope you know. Steve is out for blood yeah. If there's one adjective adjective I'd use to describe Stevie. Wonder it's blood lusty okay now. Here's where the story. It's a little screwy. Parker says he was was approached by the film's producers to create theme song two days before they needed it checks out it definitely takes also it had to incorporate the word ghostbusters low bar. He incorporates it in the laziest way too because he never says the word ghostbusters. I said he refused to sing it so he had girlfriend and her friends singing. Why did he refuse to. I think maybe some artistic credibility. He's saying all the other other words in the song when the sound strange that's fine. That's great but that's not a declarative. It's like if there's there's something strange. He's not coming out and saying that ghosts exists. I think that's what it's maybe right of other pathetic situation something strange do you. I think he's like religious. Maybe the ghostbuster talks about both ghosts an Poston and he cashed that check and came back act to shoot the video like he's fully attached to go. I think he has a complex relationship with the song I get the sense. It makes you see well. Let's talk about it. I think it ruined his life not his life because he made it so much money from it but he was on like this really graceful nice pop like the Harvard Track of music where you were eye radio his band which is spelled R. A. Y. Dio GEICO says name deal. It's like he's not the only member of the band. There's two of them. He later changed it to Ray Parker Junior and radio is his name is twice. That's some redundancy there but it's like he was just. GonNa like this nice graceful career. He had said he had already had some hits. He was GONNA do fine. He's the kind of guy who I feel like if ghostbusters hadn't happened nowadays like showing up as a guest on like daft punk honky albums and stuff. He's just like Oh this musician's musician Kinda guy but then this fucking Halloween novelty song enters his life in the summer in the summer. You gotta you gotTa give them two months to be like yeah. This is my work probably yeah and then the poor guy had to get so rich and it just ruined his career yeah well. I don't know is it is complicated for that to be the thing you're known for for the rest of your life. His quote that I read said something like Oh people think think. I don't like people coming up to me and saying you'RE GONNA call but it's like. I'm carrying a lottery ticket. Why would I be upset so I think he's pretty psyched about. The money is the sense is fine also nobody's. He's come to him and say that in fifteen years what anyone I just WanNa see quick show of screams. If you saw Raipur Junior the street would you recognize him not one scream okay ray parker juniors audience right now so he couldn't figure out a way to include clued ghostbusters into the lyrics which I understand that would be hard challenge. I feel like in hindsight it's obvious but it's obvious now it doesn't rhyme with no toast musters close dusters roasts. Duckworth Duckworth. WHOA we're making shit key yeah most but word stared as I bet he was this close to calling weird Al for help. Oh yeah it sounds like so you come crawling to the master but the way ends up figuring it out is that he's up. He says it was four. Am and I had about four five hours left before the Messenger Service was going to come had I not turned in something I would not have gotten any money honey so so no mentions of the mounds of cocaine. I think it's just implied in the eighties also again harping on the money side of this. I think he's pretty segued about the money well what the sense I get from him is that he's kind of nerd. I think he's a big music nerd. Because have you listened to like the individual tracks for ghostbusters because you can just listen to just the baseline just the steps. Are I know you. You have done that so that's yeah. I listened to the stems for making the punch-up and they're fantastic. They're great. They're all him yeah. He's a one band. I want to just because I think we'll get to it in the talking about. I WanNa play just guitar in the midst thank you the tar sound so fucking great colluded rock song. That's I was already parker. Junior Guitar came but that that guitar riff could easily be like a punk song or something yeah but it's just kind of buried in the mix like with all these like really good sense and it's all played by him any two days to make it and it's only really tight and it's just like he has great instincts. I think it's a silly ass song but like like the fifteen twenty years of career he had leading up to this all comes into play in this this movie neil well. I am so touched by the story of reporters. I hope as I continue that doesn't change but it might have to. I'M GONNA after like get on the negative side. Well Okay so another interesting thing is that it was only going to twenty or twenty five seconds long. I think it was literally. GonNa be like a sting for the commercial or something. ooh. Wow but what what we did is take the tape machines. SPLICES place edited made it four minutes long okay so he admits it. That's good to know that something I noticed when when I was remixing the song I was like he saying this line twice and it's the same exact record. There's a lot of repetition I think he got paid for thirty seconds concern work and he profited four minutes anyways. I have to now digress into the lawsuit ensued. That's kind of a fun anyways always Huey who's he sued Columbia and Ray Parker for copyright infringement stating that Parker was too similar to Lewis's song. I want a new drug drug. Parking uh-huh oh time stings in there so it is and rumor street is that Lewis was originally contacted to do the song and he couldn't because he had to do back to the future and actually okay I even I'm GonNa say it wrong. Reitman that's his name. He even actually admitted we kept looking for a song in the montage. In the middle of the movie. I was a big Huey Lewis Fan I put in I want a new drug as the temporary score for screenings and it seemed to be the perfect tempo and we cut the montage to that tempo when it was time to mix the movie someone introduced me to Ray Parker junior and he comes back with a song called ghostbusters that is basically the same kind of riff but it was totally wrong original arts original everything Oh boy okay greatest coincidences of all time I it kind of raises a complicated question because it looks bad. It does look quite bad. It really changes the about the fucking. I had no idea what to do. It's like well actually. Maybe they said. Can you copy this exactly and try not to get sued but again. That's pretty commonplace in these industries when you can't afford it or get the rights or whatever in any case it is interesting because you can't copyright a corporation. You can't copyright a synth sound so the fact that I mean they didn't technically win. They settled out of court but like the fact that you can sue and get money for that is a little scary especially considering that Huey Lewis himself has been accused of lifting the same riff from pop music by M Ward The troll this is my favorite of the three by the way so good good yeah song rules but I mean it is similar. So what point is that like. Can we just continually soon sue and at what point can you keep. Winning does actually a lineage that goes back even further. I've seen people break it down and find that same like baseline comeback like decades because again music is only so many notes the same shit's. GonNa Happen so that's just something I also read a little thing on the lawsuit that apparently they said a lot of core. They signed on confidentiality agreements not allowed to talk about it. There's a gag order and then on I love the eighties in two thousand and one he mentioned and got sued because of Huey Lewis doesn't pay very partner junior did he got sued by Ray Parker Junior. Honestly the greatest quote from Ray Parker worker junior on that got a lot of money out of that he did Ama on reddit where he talked about that a little bit and he described it in a way like he had nothing to do with like and dislike. Some money appeared in my bank account. I told my lawyers is get that man and I got money. He really absolves himself of being involved whatsoever in the original lawsuit or anything he just like funny busting makes him feel. He busted lusted. Trust busting dark folks it was time. I wonder if he's rippin. The ghost have just included this funny. It's not even fact checked. Supposedly one other person was reached out to to do the music before they arrived at Ray Parker Junior. Can you just take a guess who that might have been eighty. Dom deluise ooh close guests. My honest gas would be Daniel. The gas also gusts Lindsey Buckingham. Oh Nice which by the way I feel like busted you in writing to get you to Ukraine bus and if you don't bust me now you will never bust me again. I still you say you you will we can do this with their entire yeah. Those are all the notes I had. Is anyone else have anything to add before. We get into zone. Nothing dive in shading. You gotta play that clip again. Sousse seem ready to Let's ban on child song absolutely strain you fill in the blanks folks. I love that since sound just like the fake corn announce. Give him baby so great. I just love the idea of him being coked out of his mind in a hotel four in the morning being like that's not bad parts that aren't from the Huey Lewis Song are really good yeah. Are you here from the estate of Rape Parker. Sorry what they're like on behalf junior. I I really respect the man. Despite the pleasure is due to maybe he had to do and maybe it was just an accident. He was a coincidence I will say of the three songs still feel like ghostbusters is the one that goes the hardest so I'm like. Hey you know what I mean. Yeah that's true. It's like multiplicity. Write the classic. Ask Michael Keaton vehicle. You'd have to explain. We all knew you say multiplicity below Gotcha move on. We also like pizza. Steve deep complicity cuts now. Let's call this guy knows I wasn't pointing to anybody and no one and two who end three things I love one boob the other Boob Bra to put those boobs in and that's what I love their love this episode so is brought to you by third love which is a bra company that has the perfect fitting bras why because they use data points generated by millions of people who have taken their fit finder under quiz. What's a fit finder. Quiz great question you answer a few simple questions to find your perfect fit in sixty seconds just like that movie where the cars can move in sixty seconds seconds which doesn't seem that impressive. 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Thank hid Ray Parker. Junior is here to see that. Oh Oh man it's crack a mild smile. I feel like somebody will get sued arm suing all of y'all. I didn't know that happened but I did get a lot of money. Hearing a crowd of people screaming ghostbusters a tiny bit that was it makes me feel like I wrote ghostbusters this Joyce. My God did that for me. If there's something strange in your neighborhood who you gonNA call ghostbusters if it's it's something weird and it don't look good who you're gonNA call. GHOSTBUSTERS feels like too general to know. It's not specific enough at all. No I know that's a real tall bike. Call the ghostbusters original. If you see something say something yes it calls just like I got a flyer from bed bath and beyond and the name is wrong. I so the subway but it was just too big to think let's Ritz this. Something Weird in my neighborhood should come. It's it's me difficult. Look mark loose number. Can you send the tall one. I've seen that movie I've seen it. It's real good. The Circle back to the ghostbusters porn is it is it inter species is a lot of its inner its outer. It's repeated needed. We both of those in unison possess. You have sex in your body. That makes sense to go inside. You have sex in your body likes bikes. Have Sex with you inside your body with you have sexist. I'm sure someone's use that as a terrible crime defense steal my porn idea. Is there all those pizza points where there's like. Oh thank you ghostbusters. If only I had something to pay you with us with that giant Bam Sarda Arna wait sorry but it happens in the movie goes like infects yeah the gatekeeper and the key master. Yeah Sigourney Weaver's hot shows incredible also as the dog. You know you've seen you'll perish Williams. Yeah what's happening. My safe word was that about what we're talking talking about like in any situation someone yelling. You'll perish in what's happening. Is that the name of a movie confirmation. It is well. I know that guy is all right. I I also that second. Part is if it's something weird and it don't look good if there's something. I thought it was as it but it's been a few days. Is it cystic. I don't know what's happening here. Bus this in who you call and then go onto sounds when he sings. The song tire song sounds like sexy. He's recording this like the Messenger is going to get here in the Messenger is my girlfriend. We're GONNA fuck. I need to hurry up something strange. Ooh Ooh I think he was concerned about his image. Changing and lake not being seen as sexy after the song came all right. I could see that he does does things entire thing just being like I need to be a sex symbol if this well he I mean we'll get to it but busting doesn't think that's the entire reason for that line justify justify the sexy voice I could talk for an hour about that one line and how it makes no sense in any there okay. We'll get there and we'll take the hour. Yeah you said goal is to stay back there so it goes on to do that. Should that so halloween. It's so so Halloween it's it's. It's sounds like the feeling of Frankenstein Waking Up Yeah Franken was now. No Frankenstein is like the sexiest man alive yeah I Frankenstein. What's that movie. Sorry Oh yeah Harry. Nadkarni Frankie's come out as Frankenstein on our show. Yeah I Frankenstein. I go back to my natural. Sorry you said it's sexy Frankenstein. That's Aaron Eckhart Optima. ATM Machine you say Frankenstein I mean is this monster though what the highest monsters yeah okay. Let's say let's cheer. Frankenstein's the hottest monster now cheer if you think it's Dracula. I don't know to me which do not a pretty close to me yeah. There's one person is just like man. No you pull for Wolfman off man we would go teen wolf and Teen Wolf would win a t one more odd one more one more okay. You're right the creature for water. Oh No I'm not even sure it was was intelligent. GotTa eggs intelligence. Was it April level. Take it from me. You don't have to be intelligence. MAKE SOMEBODY COM Tom. I'm just saying my whole problem with that movie was. I wasn't sure if she's just sleeping with like the equivalent. She ate a cat and two seasons later. She's like I'm taking off my robe. Yeah they had a great relationship with thing was not hot. No Mike this is where we stand on different sides the spectrum I'm so sorry but it had apps so supposed to nine pack or some. Shit twenty-five got as many packs. Is it always an odd number. Why you make your own. You just make a Franken. It's whatever you want it to be. Now we have to rank the frankensteins end's okay so let's start with a Herman Munster. Oh that's a great one great drinks and he's Funny Funny Russell. Sorry I'm sorry what were you saying. Bella Bella Russi Bela Lugosi the APP. That's one that's not as hot now. That was I- ORCs Yeah Boris Karloff thank you. He's good awesome Robert Deniro bring. It's he did from that. Shelly's ring yeah yeah that was Danny. Niro never finished watching it. I'd never started. You know who else okay. I think we can move on now. I had to just get that on my sister and we haven't talked too much about the ghost but I love the way he says it because it's like it's like a Sassy. I'm afraid of no ghost like it's that little girl the Vine fucking shit you hope you're talking about. No one knows you're talking about fine kills the she kills her doll. It's her teacher. That person knows what's the quote from that fine. Take your fucking fucking. I go there the chief fucking dead wow but you're right. He says it in a way that clearly implies he is afraid of the almost like he's afraid of one specific goes and trying to I'm not afraid no coast. There's not one ghost. I'm afraid of when you read a break up. Album your specific ex. I'm saying non love that man. I heard something that I think I said I don't know who was but in the original demo he sent that background vocal and they're like that has to be the lead we we love your Detroit style of singing Detroit putting a car together and came right what what makes it that sound Detroit from Detroit right. He's like I have a feeling he was trying to Kodaly. Say Like it's fun how you sound black. When you say that you know goes we love that I like how you said no eight. That's fun of any goes uh-huh. I also love the wavering between like trying to be playful and just stripping like I'm Horny and I'm not afraid of ghosts again taste. He's doing a sexy. I'm having a sex game with the ghost yeah yes. I'm not a size queen for any ghosts aw any ghosts can get in. This people are doing this. No those are the ghosts the that's the best thing about talking about ghostbusters if you hate it. We don't know we can't tell they go on to say a double negative to what says a double negative right so I am a fan of afraid of all ghosts it. I'm afraid of every ghost no he might just be afraid of some cool. He's definitely afraid of some for a second. I'm afraid of some code the specify punch up there the second Kennedy John F Kennedy Hitler Hitler. I I did a thing on instruments. I think it was like Bundy Dahmer Anna John Wayne Casey just afraid I'm afraid of a bunch of goes oh yea leany Hitler Liam Neeson's Batman character stall in the shark from jaws. I'm afraid of like ten or twelve ghosts yeah yeah yeah yeah. I saw that one. We real quick the shark Jaws Sharks Games Josh Right. It's bruce its jaws is China's ause fruits as a nickname jaws legal name and then. I know it's like Bruce Wayne by his alter. Ego Is Batman is jaws. You slips through the ocean the day going. Hey what's up. Embracing people like a shark like Oh this Bruce Bruce Jaws as a werewolf movie like one of the humans on the island is the culprit right guy who's always like. Ooh I feel dry. I gotta go to shape a water too. I love it the del Toro you did it again. Go on to say awesome running through our therapist sleeping then you'll a big. It's not a ghost. That's temporary psychosis like well. I I the invisible man is not a ghost the invisible and Marley gross the hollow man is just a man who's been made invisible. He's human. He's not dead Emerson Truth or what are you saying. Invisible man is the he's alive he can. He goes between stage of visible and invisible. He's a science accident because he's a science accident. Yeah I also loved it like an invisible the man sleeping in your bed leave him. He's not doing anything that's like like. We gotta get this fucking. Outta here like you don't need a christening invisible. Moment's sleep in your bed stand. He's so he's dead. He's had a long day. Let him sleep what the Fuck Day doesn't invisible man. Dan had the justifies him to sleep in your bed for free now. Everyone you know is fighting a battle. You will never understand and I'm not here to ask questions about what pain. I don't need the bed. I'm going to work. I'm GonNa let him sleep in the damn bed. If I come back and he's still there we'll talk. I don't eat them busted though also so even in Canada the song seeing things running through your head. You don't call the ghostbusters. That's not make sense on any level. Why are the IT goes running through your head. They should be in real life. There goes if they're in your head their visions maybe he saw the movie that had some psychological elements that were removed waiter before they're like no one's is going to get did. I mention I might have missed at the top the way he figured out to incorporate ghostbusters was by seeing an infomercial on TV and doesn't that make it make so so much more sense who you gonNa call absolutely yeah. He's basically trying to be like Kees van is is he's talking about the scene in the movie where they we have an infomercial though maybe he saw them. I think he washed a kind of it sounds like he saw the movie `sorry. Oh sorry different. SNL CAST member hanging out new. You'RE GONNA call Ghostbuster Akra we we also can we just quickly shut out the Josphat joke. Oh ghostbusters I trust the ghosts who am I. GonNa call goes. Josh Vadim's great comedian and not here anyway so never met him just like that joke then go on to say this is the same thing is that is that noise realty which you now that looks real harmonizing whatever since sacks whatever that is it goes so high high now. It's just a high note on the keyboard. It's not real sad. You know. There's a real sacks acts in there. I think we'll talk about that but a sacs comes in for exactly just and it's gone. It's so strange can only get the session player for ten minutes. Yeah it was for him. Guitar is quite good income. I'm now wondering if the infomercial he sauce for a sex line absent yeah definitely one nine hundred sex. Boston's trust the sex kind of bus- business sex kind of busting in the infamously them. Don't be confused. It's not any other type of Boston because if you're all alone pick up the phone and call ghostbusters or is this like a veiled song to his ex. You know what I mean a lot of this works. I mean again. Ray Parker fits the exact same cadence as ghostbusters. You keep dropping. The junior and people are gonNA get confused. He I think he's astray. He's like I don't want to. I'm going to Drop Junior. If I'm talking sexy an aunt had inkling father doesn't hey there junior thing or okay wait. Are there any juniors in the audience tonight one ooh. Does anyone ever say that to you. Hey there junior That's pretty rude thing to say Parker this ghost. I presume resume butts on. I'm sure somebody's actually said that to him to somebody. Oh Oh this push through there still make you feel good also categorically. All policies are haunted. That's true yeah haunted yeah. Do you mean like Shit's dying in there. Okay all all the time haunted haunted in the way like when you come back from the war though like haunted that's what the PM PTSD is for Pussy. What are we talking about. I think we're talking about weird science. Yes okay yeah weird science different songs. I guess we're supposed to read it as like if all of these these things are like box you can check then 'cause goes bust or any one of them. It seems like any one of them known right. Yeah that's crazy. They'RE GONNA get. It's so many calls from just like I just wanted to tall. Children moved away eight. Oh you guys talked to people oh you know. This is a real problem really right now not yes. That's no you should feel quickly. They they will become ghosts. Oh people die. Somebody's grandma got busted in here for sure for sure both ways. Hey Grandma grandma had sex chill out. I'm encounter. She had to write. It's kind of part of okay okay. Someone busted meal. That's disgusting. I'm just saying it's fact. Please play the next clip. Stop it because it's insane. The line is I'm pretty ghost. I hear it likes the girls Whoa. This is a very specific go. Suddenly it's one ghost yeah for some reason. Sexuality is very important. Oh He's a he's uproariously man uproarious man. Can you please what that word means. Pr Are you are furry and you're bragging. I asked for the definition. It's the only time I've ever used this word. It just kind of obsessed with like sex. That's me yeah really lady well. It's just like He. He's He's thinking about. Ghosts easily. Give goes project and like the first thing they do Costa. Puck like like yeah definitely what they're all lesbian women bisexual women. Joyce three three men two women always girl. He's heard that led by the people he talks about the sex ghosts not right Margaret Junior south passing along information. That's that's why he's not afraid of. Ghosts 'cause like hey. We both liked girls like I see myself in that goes to because he's not a girl. They're not coming for him. I guess only haunted. Do you think it's it likes the girls in like it's I'm trying to hunt. The girl attracted to women or in the video. He's detector right yeah. Why is it goes to new video. He's totally slammed. Both sides is this changes everything he's singing about busting ghosts and coming out as straight in his own abso- who said by the door put. He's also co hosts. What the hell you not seen the video. He's just chasing this woman around and acting like a sex go. He's the one that's disappearing and reappearing in her apartment. Yeah he's like you. Guys have to stop me. I can control myself. I'm ago somebody what he busts me. It'd be really upsetting video if it weren't so fucking stupid would just take a seat. We got to Taylor chat about ghosts consent. Is it stalking of your house. Yes I think it's talking regardless of your physical state state of matter those ghosts right. Give it up for ghosts talking all right guys. We go stocking right goldstone on what they're doing. Oh so gross learn at a very young age what they're doing goes don't know their ghosts and that's on the ghost parents parents to educate them. I'm sick of ghosts being put on trial and just like they got such a bright future ahead of them as a ghost. They're all criminals true. I've took taken a sharp corner from all the goes from all ghostbusters or bastards to the ghost themselves or the bastards even Casper Casper when he turns into Devon saw me. Oh when I was a kid too I was not as a grown woman start with with that very confusing movies are still saying no no no now because I'm still eight years old in my mind also the fat. Whatever friend ate all the food. The one that like the whole job was ghost was fat. I believe his name name was fat. So I have special. I missed the golden age of movies where all you had to do to characters ones tall ones fat and then one is just in between between one stinks to that movie is technically the third ghostbusters movie because Dan ackroyd appears in it as as a yes in care runs out of the house yeah craze call someone else what a. l. s. against this whole song. Yeah did Ray Parker junior sue him for that. I love him somehow. Ray Parker like finagled the rights to the entire filming now that that agreement okay well. Oh You Creep Minister Ray Burger do near. What did you write the. I also love that he just goes. He likes the groups. There's so many I hear but really it's your own thought. It's been here that Oh he's doing a trump. There people are saying it like the girl. A lot of people are saying as a tremendous amount of sexual energy for the girls he and so many parts of the song just does like a weird mon like before he says something so. I clipped it out. That is why that's how I realized that. The tracks were looping because it happens twice. He does the exact moment like later in the Sagas such a bad impression of prince he Nielsen Nielsen backstage that he has an album with the song. What's it called okay so I was wondering. What did he do to follow the song up? In one thousand nine hundred five he put out an album album and it's called sex and the single man so he's not working with the ghost angle now. It's just. I hear it likes the girls over over. It's just the girl stuff very sexy that was I was listening to it and I actually love it. It's like really catchy in one track on it is a first of all. There's a track called. Men have feelings too really good but there's a track called. I'm a dog UGH and it's it's kind of a novelty song yeah. If you WANNA play if you have a client I didn't remember mind clip of. I'm a dog by Ray Parker chance great. It's him he's totally ripping off prints this time but it's like a bunch of dog bone puns and like pussycat stuff creeps already cream by the end of the song. He's just like he sounds like so. Giddy like new was was a dog. It's not learn what sex poses gets a lot. It really feels I think he's a tremendous nerd. Men have feelings too in the feeling is hornets. Bone in the doghouse highly recommend goes. I just had to just kidding. Creepy Spooky and creepy already walk a thin line. You know he jumps the line and go straight into. This song is creepy but these creepy though ghostbusters a creep creeps. It's so true. GHOSTBUSTERS are creeped themselves. The ghosts are just goes. The men are the creeps I concur those boys one of the good ones. Wow Oh spotlight watching all you imagine you said you just get raptured immediately. Uh Ernie Hudson Spine. He doesn't do anything particularly wrong and the he's just there for the sport of it all for the paycheck and why do I feel like I'm on drugs every time we're supposed back on because it's such like it makes you wanNA dance. ooh. Call he says if you had a dose of a Freaky freaky ghost baby you better call ghostbusters a dose before rhymes out existed fuck fuck fuck fuck dosed ghost host. Ghost Ghost Jost Colin Jost Not Alive yet in Post Post Toast coast. If you've had a roast votes if you like boats and toast with the freaky goes baby Mike. Can You keep saying that's not really AH lyrics from if you're playing host to freaky ghost if your host yeah ask your cooking a roast for your ghost. You might want to call the busters expensive. They don't pay money. Goes don't have money at least that's what my go says pay rent but. I just don't have money spooky bar negate what is happening us every setting on the Casio. We're going to live. I think he was hand programming that shit really because he's a virtuoso. I saw Albert Parker heart sounds incredible. That is pure him. That's no Huey Lewis is that on Mike was saying just just hitting every key on. How do you see that episode of. I think you should leave where it's just like the piano that has all the strings and pulleys and shit. That's what's happening here. Her are he went to the mall and heard a man outside playing a couple of buckets jar and he was like keep going and put from you. It's so big can huge. I love it for the song. Wait a minute. Ah Demands telling on himself again. Why do you think makes. Maybe he's just like playing those buckets. Maybe he's saying aimed busking makes them feel good. That's why he was so upset songs. I don't want to be rich. Just WanNa get out there and play my buckets. I WANNA get back to my roots. I'd love to see him perform ghostbusters on the street. Oh I would kill for that. Coach goes buskers not movie. I would watch okay okay. It's a rag tag group of ghosts. They were all amateur musicians. It's basically fame but they're dead now. They're all playing the musical salsa pooling on time. It's who wants to for ghosts. I'm going to learn how to flat. Remember remember member. Please please remember twenty. Five hundred six hundred. None of those numbers were right occur. I mean busking makes me feel good it. Actually the sentence makes me feel good so thank you for that now. I think he's talking to come yeah. ghostbusters talking about his ectoplasms exactly this entire song. He's just been like I've been hinting at it and everyone's like what are you saying like fine. I love to have sex yeah masturbate or it's just he's all about the end the pride and joy August August forget the first part of the sentences. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something magic. They're just like all right kids. Here's the deal. Let me tell you something I ate. Everyone hopes to Demi just turned his chair backwards and fully straddling it all right. Let's wrap for a second Boston. I love the ship morning day or not. You see a sock on the door. It's not coming off busted makes me feel good. Sometimes daddy comes downstairs in the mornings a little more pep in his step. I just WanNa know what like Ivan Reitman thought of that line. He's hell yet. There's blow job from ago. Movie we are on board. Did accurate probably took him aside ghost to everybody's a little. Dan ackroyd especially though right yeah a big time within the ghost me little bit in the ghost not into him at all come. We're lying to yourself. Get a little crystal. Go ahead vodka and you also crystal head vodka and accolades vodka skull now. I know that it's it's it's got alien ship even his vodka. I love a man who commits all the way also. Send me a couple of movies and might change your mind. Please those we'll talk. We'll talk after you mean. The links dot com slash screaming out now appreciate that he's like all right. Let's stop beating around the Bush loaded love to come all right and then he goes back into it with those words come Simone. Thank you trying to hide it anymore. Only gets progressively more problematic. Don't get caught alone. Oh No yup and then he says when he comes through your door unless you just want some more I think you'd better call ghostbusters. Also we focus that he said comes through your door. When it comes through Louis Your mail slot there goes they can just go through whatever you got what I was saying. I didn't okay it's fine. I'll listen to this later. The song started. It was so general unroll. If you see something strange but now this is a very specific ghost if he comes through your door unless let's he just wants some more right the more of the invisible man in your bed same Guy Ray who apparently that goes transformer. I'm starting to think that the story of the song is Ray. Parker Juniors stumbled upon some invisible making serum and is they cloak and he's using it to sneak into ladies houses but he's also like. I don't think that's fair so I'm GonNa make a song to warn them but it's not not really warm them. I mean I I like it. I think he's drawing on the legend of the soccer with a little bit perhaps maybe he suffers from sleep paralysis. It's just it's very yeah. It's weird aggressive sexual ghost imagery. JEKYLL and Hyde type deal. I don't know what the Fox going on it. I would love to hear more about the sucky abyss just when you have time. I guess he'd be the Incubus love what you're saying and what it means really. You don't know the legends I know it's just like people would would have liked terrible visions that have sleep paralysis and explain it as like a demon that would like press down on them in their sleep and stuff it was called the cubist sucky abyss where the female ones and the incubus. Ncube was the male version female one had suck in it. Yeah it's spelt with the two seas as well Gosh. I think that might be where it comes from even trying to suck you bus yeah. It's just short for succulents. Awesome makes me feel good. Suck you bust and makes me feel good. Uh so that's pretty much the end of the song. It just goes into him. DOING CORNERSTONES GONNA go. Oh thank you better call gonNA come. I can't hear you or losing them louder. That's what he says now you you know the exact cadence of every line out of the song. I know joke listened the song year round. It's on my like just routine song platelets fucking bangs. It's really good. I use a thing it was a great song before I learned all of this stuff. The thing is I've known this stuff for a while. It only made it better after I like to think that he recorded those parts first before the call backs so it's just there's a version of it whereas louder think you better call. I do also like the idea of replacing every instance of ghostbusters with Ray Parker and just like you better called Ray Parker. That's what it sounds like inside his head all all day yeah and that's ghostbusters he probably it was like what are you. GonNa Cau- aw Ray Parker junior doesn't work. Don't call my dad. It's me Lindsey Buckingham. Oh God I wish Louis all he will Lewis. He lost out on so much money. How would love to know what Song would have written. Can you imagine imagine I can't. He did a spooky song right well. He did a spooky video. Do you ever see that one. No which one was it. Does anyone know power of love no one of his music videos. It's like like this extended haunted house thing. Why were the eighties so hot on haunted things thriller thriller. That's what this song was. Missing was Vincent Price. Yes he should have been involved. That's punch-up you guys who we got him back from the dead. Is he dead. He's so stupid Burnett Vincent Price fixing the theme. I don't know who's dead who's alive. He was like Edward scissorhands died right after Edward SCISSORHANDS. Yeah that was it related scissors right to the chest onset kind of thing you know pick. Edward's scissor fingers nope and his hands were scissors right. Thanks oh I haven't seen the movie he had he had homes but then he had scissor fingers fingers. You're correct. Thank you Mike. Thank you if there's one thing you take away from. This shall says affairs also that my first crush was vincent price anyway. What'd would you do for the story about what that in their price not Edward SCISSORHANDS now. That's impressed her. Second crush was the tiny child child goes from Casper my third one and Michael Clarke Duncan in the Green Mile what that's like your type type is things that are going to die. I assume that it oh my God so for the punch-up I punch up. There are a few things I had to take into account firstly being neil did the best punch could have been done of this song secondly that for for those who don't know this is my last episode. It's fine and not by well. I mean I'm not dead so it's fine. Unfortunately finally I had to fire Demi right kept talking about busting but then also just like what a fun thing to do with this song and what have I enjoyed about the podcast broadcast and one thing I enjoyed last year that I did is making a mega mix of all of the songs that we had covered on the podcast and so I don't know how well it will play since I'm not gonNA be performing it. I will have to dance and let's see how long I sustained energy and film this. Oh God I love it. Yeah the talk yeah. Ah added Black Friday. You get sick. Oh it. We're not saying goes to say clusters faster sake cops when I say but you say those guys when I say that's up uh-huh excuse. It got punched much much much much much the survey the Oh that's fun. Ah I've had nightmares like this fucking war so much birth I was and it was good and it's just so proud out of you. I can't look at you. Thank you done a great thing here. This podcast got to see Parker fashion. I did that for him this morning. I texted did him saying hey you want to go to the gym. He's like sleeping who knew at the same time with sound amazing right. How how many songs isn't it. I believe twenty five Neil. What's your record on less than that ending on Beverly Early Hills. That's a strong mover. They're always on that. We have not shop that I think every song sounds like Beverly Hills so I just mix it into songs to mess with me. Al Final sendoff no. I think this is the final sendoff what Oh this is making me surprisingly sad we okay. It's time to punch ables to this Mike Okay. I think that they might be giants. Song that I love overlap and think this song is fucking perfect. Their drummer is this guy named Marty Beller and he wrote the song called Marty Beller mask and it's about Martin not really being Marty but being Whitney Houston in disguise and there's no better way to write this song. It's so good I'm steaming up the inside of Marty Beller masks because really Whitney Houston on the drums as long years since I put on the party mask. You're the only person that I've ever. It's very listen into the rest of it. They were tired that song she died. They stop playing it classy. They're great yeah. I would love to hear it though but is a good move that they didn't. I'm excited actually listen to that really good one. Neil my pick was peekaboo peekaboo by Susie and the Banshee is up. The facts like the drone on Sunday were recorded in verse how that whole track sounds like. It's reverse is a ton of weird. It's just like the song is all fucked up. You can't fix it. It's just like it's perfect. It's like a beautifully weird song. It was kind of a big hit. I think two yeah new I loved it. You're just so smart. You just hear things you know your ears. Yours are like the opposite colorblind. That's what your ears because I dropped out of school here that kid firm I jam. I I feel very clever for this. Elliott Smith take a second you know just thinking off his album x x and it's called Independence Day because this is your freedom Tammy after today your free. What's not locked down by doing this after today. You're finally free Jeanie. You're ready. This is US sailing into the sunset. My son Elliott Smith from Portland mistaken that it is that's why I chose that of course yeah 'cause he's from Portland and not that mural in la sure he he was not board of the mural in La for my unpublishable. I chose a song that's essentially a punch-up of ghostbusters is ghost rider by Mr Fab which which I think is a fucking such a fun Song Street Book By. You know where I'm going in the North East indicate Django with a lot of things in the club is this is all about goes riding your car. It rules in my car kid. I should've clicked. Just the chorus play when you get a new aw also Friday ghost rider with I. I haven't haven't heard that Song Solo so good. The lion that always like really got to me was ghost. Ride go crazy. Who's that Driving Patrick Sweetie. It's so good so good. Oh 'cause. He's a ghost again. This is a line of goes ride goes ride. Get out the way let caspar spur dry. I wish is not old enough to try. If anything were to be punched up haven't mentioned more famous yeah yeah. Dan Lewis Bruce Willis spoiler ride and that's the show I'm still trying to think of the famous ghost any any dead person beetlejuice the ghost with the most. You can't say juice. I always ought aww do if we're not careful beetlejuice Orlando Mike Neil. Thank you guys so much. Thank you so much fucking fine so so fun having you on. Where can people check you out. Where can people find you. What do you want promote anything. WHO WANTS TO GO? I it just at Mike Underscore Eagle on twitter because everything that I do is important. I put their good sometime or another. Twitter is a great place sometimes used to be. I mean you can find all of my links on Neil. CIC DOT COM IF YOU WANNA check out if you don't care for twitter than there's other stuff there to excites heights. There's links to my mash up albums. There hadn't heard foods mouth. Moods is mouth moves out sounds mouth silence. Is that the order the listening. You're saying three yeah. What is the listening order you recommend? I think order of release yeah mouth sounds out out silence and then mouth moods because they build on the jokes as as as time progressed Mahmoud tribute album to the Iranian president that we all just get in the mouth. I don't know what's happening anymore. Emotional the process anything to me. I don't know how to end this episode to Sad. It's happy but it's sad we're GONNA be great. We're going to move on. I'm going to take a few weeks to regroup reformat restructure comeback with the new version of the podcast but it will never be like what we had. It'll be different. I'm tweaking Demi. When Demi gets emotional he can only communicate through soundboard moving. I understand you send your sad. I know that things have to change eventually but it's hard to say goodbye aw never forget all countless. Weekends and Weekdays and nights spent working on this podcast with you bad news junkie. I'm really I'm really gonNA miss logging seven patriotic bonus episodes with you in a single sitting really gonNa miss being trolled by you. The most first of all can miss you. I'm GonNa Miss Issue too and I'm GonNa Miss.. The podcast and I love you buddy. Thank you all so much for listening and for being here I love you guys so much. The podcast is still going. It's going to be fucking great. Please keep listening and I hope to see all around. We Love Ya okay. That was taught the podcast.

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Strange News: The COVID-19 Ghost Ship Tour, an X-files spinoff, and Georgia's Massive Human Trafficking Ring

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Strange News: The COVID-19 Ghost Ship Tour, an X-files spinoff, and Georgia's Massive Human Trafficking Ring

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History is riddled with unexplained events you can turn back now. or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Production of I heart breathing. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt My name is known they all me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly you or you you are here and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know our strange new segment at the top of the week. So hoping everybody had an excellent weekend and survive to face yet another, Monday? We have some strange stories for you these run the gamut. So we thought maybe the best way to ease into today's exploration was to start with something a new development about something close to all of our hearts. Yeah. That's right. It turns out that Fox television was developing a spin off of the beloved X. Files, which is something that think is near and dear to many of you folks out there in in podcast lands heart Su-, such a formative show in terms of conspiracy Oriel. Plots and I'd like really took things like the twilight zone and things they were already kind of in that supernatural realm and kind of combined it with like procedural let detective type, story and just you know really there wasn't anything else quite like it. Absolutely iconic. Even the movies are pretty good. Never, really lost its luster in my actually I don't know I kind of fell off near the end. I really loved the monster of the week type episodes best. But here's the the twists everyone this new X. files series the spinoff it's going to be called the X. Files tentatively titled The X. Files Albuquerque. And it comes from comedy writers. I. Don't know if anyone's west the Netflix Comedy Series Paradise PD. Anna show on comedy central called Brickell Berry, which I think is about like a bear, a foul mouth cartoon, bear of some kind but they are helming this new x-files Albuquerque series and it's animated. What's Yemen? Guys oils. What's your? What would I say this animated x-files was your immediate reaction. All the first thing I'm thinking about is the first x files spin off the one the true files spin off the one that surpassed in my opinion, the X. files altogether Oh. Here we go. It's one of. The Lone gunman are you serious? God. I loved that show you're being sarcastic. No, I'm not being sarcastic. You really like them. I thought people hated it. What are you talking about? Me Was. Millennium was also spinoff. Technically, they exist in the same universe the you know to be honest the animation approach does not surprise me We've seen more things going into animation I would be interested to know whether this was planned to be animation pre pandemic. or whether it changed like so many other properties but of from what I understand, it's got its DNA at least in the production side squarely rooted in the world of animation right? Like is paradise PD animated. Shows are animated. So that's very true but I mean it's it seems like very very early development Bento box is the innovation studio. This going to be handling the actual you know production They don't have any scripts yet or any commitments from the actual creators in terms of like where the story is going to go but I do wonder if it was like pitched that way or if it was something like we were GonNa do an X. files spinoff and then Kobe hit and they're like, well, we'd better pivot to something that's more manageable that we can at least plan for it's something that the Internet's kind of already a buzz about a little bit. There is an article on. How some kind of pop culture nerd type site can remember the name now but comparing it just conceptually, you know how the Internet loves to prejudge things before it even exists. But like to the real ghostbusters, I don't know if you guys remember the ghostbusters cartoon from the Eighties I, guess right I remember the action figures and all that, and it was the real ghostbusters because there was another cartoon size called ghostbusters that was real bad and I was always confused by it because I was like, what is this? Why does this exist and it had nothing to do with Ivan Reitman or the film and any of it so they had to call the real ghostbusters yes. That that's happens before we have these closely competing properties like not just with ghostbusters and real ghostbusters I, appreciate your point I also had the toys at one time i. it reminds me of the. Addams family versus the Munsters you know what? I mean someone identified a concept and then before it got locked down, someone else said, we'll do something different enough with with animation though with X. Files you know I I, wonder whether the voices of Fox in scully will return or whether this is like if you want to have a reboot of something and you can't get the original actors than maybe you make a case that it needs to be different enough visually that the audience will it'll find a new audience that isn't married to the current protagonist. It's probably for kids or two right Now there's so many of these mature cartoons now I wonder if they'll make you thirteen, you know because the idea behind this is it's like the X. Files be team. It's like all the stories or sorry the cases that are too stupid. Or like bizarre but not in like a cool like you know mystery way more in like a wacky slapsticky kind of way it sounds like for mulder and scully to deal with and I think they're gonNA make appearances but. It does seem like it's going to be sort of a spoof almost. So it's it's hard for me to even commit to calling it. A spinoff as is almost seems like nostalgia back. kind of reworking like a reimagining. Almost I. Don't know it. I have mixed feelings about it. You guys years down the road. We're going to be like, do you remember when X. Files used to be a regular? TV. Show. This new one is just so great. I kind of don't even remember who mulder and scully are maybe yeah. That's a good point met about how quickly things become normal and really the story of history is always up to the winners who write history right and the future historians. So it may be that maybe the Phantom divides and there are some people who only love the original route of X. Files for insert maybe even only a piece of the original run only seasons one through four, and they'll be kind of like the people who only like the first star trek iteration and then there'll be the people who only. For some reason like that original six episode reboot was it six episodes I think it was of what? Next Generation Original X. files reboot they came sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. Yes. Of course next generation is many many more than six hundred. Anymore So we don't. We don't know who's going to win, but it makes me think. I don't know. I guess it's time for us to give a shout out to favorite x files episodes maybe. Before we do that just really quickly I just wanted to something that will like make you super popular at parties folks out there the when we're talking about the ghostbusters cartoon versus the real ghostbusters cartoon, it actually the ghostbusters cartoon from film Mation. From doing he man and Shiro cartoons and all that stuff. They owned the name before the movie before the Ivan Reitman Movie The drive in movie had to buy the rights to use that from film -Ation and then film -Ation capitalize on the success of the ghostbusters maybe which came out in one thousand, nine, hundred three by putting out a sequel to it's live action the ghostbusters movie from one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five. So ghostbusters. The cartoon was kind of a thing. They already owned that they had sold the rights to use the name to Columbia Pictures and then made a cartoon version of their live action ghostbusters movie from nineteen seventy five where they have like a gorilla like it's like these like very slapstick. Enforce Tucker and then a guy they have a guy in a monkey suit wearing a beanie with like a little propeller him so that's all I got but. I didn't even realize that until very recently now. I've never heard that story. A little odd in the in some of the business stuff but I think I understand I think license the name like they. Because they were still able to go back and make their version Do a little more digging on that. But yeah, I I would love to hear what y'all's favorite x files episodes are I certainly already have mine in my mind? Yeah. Well okay. My favorite episode of the x files. It's the one where. buyers one of the characters buyers he has to fake his own death and he's doing this because he's trying to uncover this conspiracy about an airline hijacking. It's it's pretty crazy so. The this airliner ends up getting hijacked via PO. It's like automatic control system. The autopilot system and it's crazy in the end. Several of the is from the team ended up getting on the plane and they're trying to stop it the crazy thing about it is that this plane that was being auto remote controlled was on a collision course with the World Trade Center. And this episode came out in two thousand one. In March of two thousand one. And it was an episode of the lone gunman. was waiting for you. Kidding me. You're this role dude. Seriously I really. Really, like the lone gunman better than the X. Files Mac come. Clean. Look. I am being I'm not being fully honest. The X. Files X-files was migrate love as as a young one but the lone gunman, let's say I've I've become to appreciate it much more in my later years especially as us the three Caucasian men speaking to you now either via. audio. Yep Well. Yes. The three of us talking I think maybe represent the lone gunman in some weird way just a different version. So I think I I have grown to like it more. Oh. Yeah. Thanks to you. Aaron Cooper for the awesome poster which I still have a copy of here. In this strange room, I'm turning into a layer. Yet I. Think I'm on the same page with you there. Matt I personally don't Em- principle I have a really difficult time choosing a single favourite, never a fan of those lists where some arbitrary like these are the best Tutu seventeen, these things and they're clearly my opinion is the author but I I also to your point, enjoy the monster of the week episodes the supernatural stuff of course when they're when they're dealing with other worldly entities I don't if if you are listening to stuff, they don't want you to know and you have somehow not seeing. The X. Files I wish I could erase by memory and watch it with you because what a wild ride especially when you don't have to wait a week between episodes. You know, cancel all your appointments, meeker weekend a week long and just watch x files and tell me what you think about that really southern Gothic. Not. Even supernatural. The southern. Gothic. Incest story guys that was the one that they pulled. Right we're almost like a Texas chainsaw massacre type vibe with like a house with like a real creepy family and like someone who lives under a bed and is like born with no legs or something I don't remember it's really twisted is by far the most disturbing episode of the entire series it's called home i. believe is what it's called right Yeah. I think it might be hold and I think that characters started with legs. Once upon a time Baz, right? That's. The. Yeah. That's your favorite. No. That's that's an exceptional one. Now, you can watch it via the Internet without having to worry about down censorship. But since I can't pick a favorite and I, don't have a favorite because I, I like so many of them. I would pass it to you because it sounds like you have when you WanNa talk, they're actually two that really stand out in my memory and I had to google one of them was called, but it's called GPO and it stars Giovanni. Ribisi. The first time I think I've ever seen him in anything and he plays this Canada outcast e Weirdo who likes playing video games and has magical lightning powers. And I really need to. Rewatch it'd be interesting to see if it holds up I have watched a decent amount of them in the last handful of years and I do think by and large they hold up I? Mean it definitely is got that square aspect ratio and got some hallmarks of kind of nineties which by by virtue of the closeness to the eighties feels kind of eighties at times. It's weird. It's you know what the hair big hair sometimes and all of that and some of the dialogues a little corny. But man, it really hits. and. That's one of my favorites I think because he's sort of this classic outcast character. You almost WANNA root for, but then He. Goes Way to ham and becomes kind of stock hurry and CNN realized how psychotic you really is was to be loved. You guys he just wants to be loved. And then I also really enjoy there was one with a creepy. Creepy doll. That like murders people with it's like creepy doll powers and I. Don't remember the name of that one see if I can find you real quick what's going to type in X. FILES CREEPY DOLL And that one is called Chinga. Vacationing scully meets girl who makes people injured themselves. Written by Stephen King and Chris. Carter it's very Stephen King now that I think about it yeah Chinga. How I just thought of another episode you guys. This one actually was written by Vince Gilligan who you may remember Vince Gilligan. You know that other show breaking bad he did that one and. This one is really really cool. It's called usual suspects. Can't even go through if features the lone gunman. But it is an episode of the House Right. Okay that's really great. Okay. Good I. Liked the characters they're great. Which I think I'm the short the short stubby guy and you're the longhaired Weirdo and Ben. You're the other guy. I was the other guy look like I thinking of the poster that that Aaron Cooper made. The agent buyers that Matt was referring to a couple of times earlier in this. He's good looking one. So you get to be the good looking. Also. Just you know in that episode, it features detective. John. Munch. May. Remember from the much verse Yeah which I think. Chuck discussed with US Right Win. He was on he was on the show to Yeah. Yeah. I I i. like that you know this isn't this isn't Necessarily strange news because the Mo to me maybe this is cynical the money. Makes it inevitable that there will be a reboot or some Daniel ellsberg extension of the X. Files Universe because otherwise, what are they gonNA do just Sell. DVD's. Thinks. So where's this streaming by the way where you stream the X. files? Is this a Hulu some things on Netflix's anymore so hard to keep track let me type where to stream the X. files. Ladies and gentlemen all on idea flicks its Hulu. On movie. Exclusively on Qube they go. We'll real quick we'll wrap this up and move onto the next article but for it or again, it x-files animated series o the old car stuff question Yup. Yeah. I'm for it. I'm for creative endeavors I am for the exploration of the mind and the world around us through fiction. It's done great for the species so far, which is very abstract way of saying yes. Even if I don't watch it I, think it's good that exist in the world okay. Matthew. Spoilers ahead. As long as buyers fro Hickey many other one show up as ghosts. Link? I think that's maybe on the table. This sounds like there's going to be some mad cap. Supernatural hijinks. I'm for it man I'm not gonNa pooh-poohed before it even exists. It's interesting at the very least. And let's just see what happens I guess the thing is like it's one of those things that has just a special place in. So many of our hearts that you feel protective of it and you're like, oh, no, don't ruin it by making a stupid cartoon out of it, but who are we to say? You know maybe the kids will love it and then they'll introduce a whole new generation of the X. Files. Get he'll get more people thinking maybe the way you do the way we do maybe there's something to all this stuff on the fringes right? That's what the show's all about. I would say one interesting part about that. When we talk about intergenerational fiction is that people tend to have an astrologer for Romanticize the things they saw that they love right And they say, Oh, the old was better. The first thing was better what often psychologically what's happening if you being that person is that you are pining for how you felt at the time that you originally watched the think. So you're not necessarily in love with the writing or the special effects whatever they may have been you are psychologically speaking going to be. You're going to be thinking of the time in your life. You've already remembered multiple times. So so we have to be really careful when we when we find ourselves being the person say the old stuff was better the original stuff now we're just we liked ourselves better that Sometimes it's not sometimes it's not even good at all. If you actually revisited. was infringed technically a an X. files spinoff as well. I don't believe. So I think it was. Arrested verse but idea maybe it's in the minority. The there's there's a lot of references you know, j.j Abrams. Did I'm just looking at right now and it says fringe every x-files files reference explained. So it's inspired by the X. Files and his reference the series in several episodes. Implying that they've decided maybe retroactively to share the same you. What makes a spinoff after come from the same team to be like an official spinoff I don't know it's a good question so That's what do you guys think is fringed in exile spinoff. Let us know. All Right? We'll be. Right. Back. Hey. It's your homie. It's your home. 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So, you may like some people have missed the recent report that nearly forty missing children were rescued during a child traffic in bust here in our very own state of Georgia. These children were found is the result of something called operation not forgotten. It was multi county. It spans across more than twenty counties throughout the Metro Atlanta area. And Twenty six endangered children were covered. Another thirteen missing children were found the authorities believe that these children. Were potential victims for sex trafficking ring or that some of them had already been abused. They seem to come from high risk childhoods. You know little stability in the family structure may be abused by the parents or substance abuse by the parents and. As this story developed. The governor talked about it. Last Thursday evening as this story developed. The arrest were still coming in and as we came to air to day I was still keeping track of some of the arrest because an operation of this size. Requires the activity of Multiple Co conspirators and any child trafficking ring is a conspiracy. This is the kind of stuff that people people who are reposting on memes should be paying attention to if you want to make a difference and the ongoing injustice and abuse of Vulnerable Children, then I would say look at things like look at these trafficking rings get busted all the time look at Epstein, look at the Catholic Church right and donate to organizations fighting then as a matter of fact, this Saturday just as we were prepping to record this four more people were arrested in Florida, in relation to this traffic ring. So we don't know if the nine people arrested. For this traffic in ring where the totality of management, there may be more people out there and more terrifyingly there may be more children out there as part of this ring because these people were arrested in Florida. This is multi county Atlanta has been a hub of human trafficking for a long time Doodoo. Are you know where we're at the intersection of interstates? We have one of the world's busiest airports or at least we did pre pandemic. So I feel like this is a series of beginning dominoes falling I. I don't know you guys have you guys heard of this story right? We talked a little bit about it off air. I think. Yeah it's just really really disturbing. I've been looking at a lot of stuff from WSB TV you can. That's channel to here in where we live in Atlanta and you click through the stories when one's posted, you can kind of go. Through and read a lot more personal stuff about this and I was just reading one. Actually. Earlier today about. A girl that was found she was I think this is the seventeen year old. Seventeen year old that was found and it appears or they believe that she's been trafficked for sexual purposes since she was twelve. And Win they. When the police arrived at this home or she was kept in a garage in Rockdale county whereas in Rockdale Georgia. She didn't believe that anyone could possibly be there to save her. It was her. She thought that somebody was just getting a warrant being served in the house or something in that was it and you know my understanding is that she was afraid to say anything right I mean she was just GonNa mind her place going to stay there in the garage in allow to happen because she was fearful for her life on the soothing. That's me placing myself in her shoes which I shouldn't do but I'm that's what my understanding is. The amazing thing is that been this this whole task force everyone involved in this that you're talking about it was specifically to to rescue children lead that was the whole point of it, and she just couldn't believe that someone would do that but the officers were able to. To let her know and then they rescued her from that and they did that for so many other kids. You WanNa, talk about the people that were rounded up in this in late name them. Sure something. Sure about the adults due to give a bigger picture of this The seventeen year old was the oldest of the children. The youngest was three years old when you an. Just how widespread this operation was across demographics every forty seconds a child goes missing in this country that adds up to what the FBI estimates be seven, hundred, sixty, five, thousand children missing per year. So it's not surprising that if they have credible leads, they would form specific task force the find to find these victims. The people that we're talking about will name their names. We need to be very careful to say that. This being the US they are not guilty until proven guilty in a court another thing, the people who have been arrested. Many of them already had related convictions by which means I mean people like more Deo ammos Bangle who was arrested in Florida he was he already had a warrant out of for sexual assault in conyers Georgia. Yeah. I mean in in Dekalb county where I live there was a person named trae on Moore. Who was wanted for sex trafficking and probation violation he already had warrants out for him on that and then you have James Garcia arrested at a motel in clearwater Florida with warrants on him out of Whitfield County Georgia for. Child molestation aggravated sodomy, and incest with a minor. And that was that was one of the people you mentioned been that were recently arrested in Florida yet yet. So three of these folks were arrested in clearwater. Florida James Garcia was at a motel with face Smith and Sally Garcia Face Smith had a warrant for probation violation and Sally Garcia had had been convicted of interference with child custody. And there's more down in Columbus Georgia. Here's a person. Zachary bayly he you know previously had issues with human trafficking enticing of a minor for indecent purposes enticement of a minor for. Just A. Awful egregious stuff, and then we have a stance in Causey arrested in Jasper Georgia a registered sex offender. Also arrested, for probation, violation. and to round out the current arrestees. Last two are Kirk waters rested noon county felon in possession of a firearm Travolta Sharieff also arrested Newton County interference with custody and obstruction. So these people as far as we can tell, have had a history with the law you know, and the troubling thing about this is this bust is not the biggest of its size even in Georgia two years ago a sex trafficking sting operation in Metro, Atlanta rescued almost a hundred and sixty children. And of course, log with those came the news conferences the vows to clean up the streets never let this sort of thing happened again. And here we are. Two years later. And it has happened to get. I mean I just. This this level of opportunism and predatory. Behavior is just beyond anything I could possibly wrap my head around. Can you I can't think of anything more ingredients than preying on children and using them as a commodity in this way. Part of the reason, this tends to happen in Atlanta is because Atlanta's also. In addition to being a travel hub Atlanta's also a convention hub right so there are a lot of people who are effectively living transient existence. I don't mean just people riding the rails or something I mean people who are from somewhere else they're here for a week and then they're gone the next week we know that the US has a tremendous problem with trafficking. In general. Just contextualized this Matt you you mentioned one of those charges was enticement of a minor right the word for that is grooming. Friends being a vulnerable child making them feel like they will be safe if they do what you say yeah this is unclean. Agree this I, bring this story up because. They're two very important things we need to know I this story does appear to have some sort of positive conclusion. which is valuable and I believe that the investigators in this task force meant it. When they said, you know they're never gonNA stop looking for a kid never going to stop looking for these missing children and I. Hope it's true. But the second reason I bring it up is because we have to ask ourselves how long until the next one or how many are occurring now in the US and in Georgia baby specifically that aren't getting the due diligence of the gators or they aren't getting the headlines of the press and media outfits. This. This stuff is happening. Every day may not always be over one hundred kids. It may not always be like dozens and dozens of children but I don't think it makes it any better if it's happening to one kid, you know two kids or three. Completely agree. It makes me wonder what would happen. If this. Was One of the primary things that our tax dollars were used for for law enforcement officers, something like this very specific task forces that focus on a major problem. And they they focus on it. So deeply that they are able to, you know arrest whole you know groups of people who are doing some kind of major crime. because yeah because I think what this does illustrates the importance of law enforcement right in a time. When you know there's a lot of much-needed scrutiny being placed on you know individual officers in departments the this is something. That I think I, don't think anybody can argue with is a major league positive thing that law enforcement officials in entire groups of officers can do now you're right but but it's all about that training and the specialized training in in the task force nature of to like fit the training and the personnel with a certain end goal as opposed to what we're seeing. I think with perhaps the training for regular. Officers that are going to domestic disputes doing traffic stops, they're not trained in a way that fits with the reality of that job at times. oftentimes in my in my opinion and I think in many people's opinions. Hunt I would say that we have to. We have to. Take pains illustrate the difference here. The folks who are in charge of operation not forgotton or not rank and file police officers their members of the US marshals service. Missing Child Unit. So there lay their training is going to be incredibly different to begin with a minor state says them, and then like six or more other agencies including local FBI I mean all of these various law enforcement groups that are Indiana and local police to point. My point is that it's not the local police running this. You know what I mean. A short will then the marshalls. That's great. Moya. Overall point is that if we did highly trained. Even, local officers in a very specific thing. That they would be amazingly good at I. Mean what I imagine that we could accomplish some. Some. Wonderful things in in putting. People who probably should be in jail such as the ones that we named in this episode earlier in some kind of jail. Prison, excuse me need to be more specific jail is where you are kept. When you're trial prison is where you go after you've been given a sentence. Thank you Whoever you are gonNA find your name. And Gulag. is where you go if the people in power don't care for what you say. Yes shut out to Dina who wrote us a great email telling us the difference between jails and prisons which I think. I'm the one who's guilty of using them interchangeably. Yes. Shadow to you and shadow to everyone who was talking about this. Social media various other places. One other interesting aspect here is that we had a lot of people who were saying, why isn't the mainstream news reporting this? Why are they giving it more coverage and the fact of the matter is that the mainstream outlets working covering this it's just so easy to lose these stories in the deluge of headlines that we encounter every single day now, and of course, this story being somewhat rare in that there is a positive outcome and ending rewarded paused for word from our sponsor, and then we'll be back with one more piece of strange news. Okay. We're going to take a bit of a light turn here, but it's one that we think you're going to find fascinating. Now. You may have heard this whole situation with a pandemic, the coronavirus covid nineteen. It's had a bit of an effect on the cruise industry, and by that, I mean cruise ships the you know the giant cities that roll around on the water with casinos on the mostly that's. Really what you're don't forget about the shuffleboard man a Lotta shuffleboard and booze so much, Bruce. Well unfortunately, this fun activity for those who have enough money to enjoy it. It's had to there's had to be a pause on it right and. Here's the thing. These massive ships it's not easy to just dock one somewhere on the coast you know where let's say. Twenty other ships would be able to be docked. One hundred other ships be able to you can't just put them there. Right. One of the one of the main things that happens with a cruise ship that is not in service is that it just gets anchored or moored somewhere out in the ocean that's deep enough to make sure it's going to be safe even when there's like a large storm or something on the. Well. If you travel to the channel. Which? If you're looking at a map, the UK would be above you the channel is here and below you Ben, what would it be? Geography quiz. Okay. Well, the English. Channel is the part that looks like you could just maybe swim across it. Some people have below the UK you've got you've got a cavalcade adventure there. You Got France he got Spain Portugal. You've got the entire continent of Africa. Okay Okay Okay you know a lot about where things are been. Everybody knows those I. Think we all know. I know I know about them as individual units. I couldn't tell you where they lay out on a map with that level of precision Ben? Don't sell yourself short. I know things about Ben and one of them is that he's got a map up up in here in his head. So very kind of dude come on. So if you are in this one specific town, let me pull it up and make sure I know where it is. It's called the mood for or mud F O R d ferry and it is in this place called mood. In. Christchurch. Dorset UK. And if you are there at, let's say the docs not it's not the. Whatever you call the port there You look out. You'll see a bit of Spain. Maybe if you're if you're lucky otherwise you're just gonNA see lots and lots of water in a way out in the distance you're going to see A. Whole bunch of these giant cities that are called cruise ships. Now. They're just out there floating and they're empty except for a skeleton crew. Maybe of people who are making sure the you mean actual skeletons dude on the ghost ships. Yes. They should really capital at the very least. Have them wear skeleton outfits. Sorry please. No there's going to be a smoker of people on each one of those ships just to make sure everything's okay with the ship or at least at most times, I know the inner workings of the Big Cruise Industry or whatever you WANNA call it industrial crews complex. But the important thing here is that there's almost nobody on these giant ships right so an enterprising fellow named Paul Durham? Who operates this thing called them Woodford ferry her mood for ferry. I'm going to butcher I Apologize Paul Whoever's Louisville. Mood. All you can do. For. Well. He decided he's going to start running a two and a half hour long ghost cruise-ship ferry trip I love the idea of this. So you hop on a ferry with Paul and his crew whoever's running that day you take the boat out and you just kinda right up alongside these empty cruise ships and just look up at him and just wonder what it might have been like fantasize. Aw that waterslide looks so much fun Oh man I bet the the she crab soup on this place would have been just wonderful tonight but it is this weird. I guess an eerie feeling. You get just knowing that they're out there empty. And he's been charging people, you know he's a pretty good amount of money UK by the way and he's able to actually have a functioning business based off of the current. Would we call it purgatory in which the cruise industry exists Oh yeah. I mean let's not forget like the cruise industry was one of the first big like PR blunders. Pandemic where people were like trapped in weren't able to get off the ships return to their lives. That was one of the first big Oh shit moments where we were like this is real bad 'cause they weren't allowed to leave in that was a really shocking story and I wonder how the cruise industry is ever going to even recover from the optics of all that the. I wish you think so yes. Yeah. Dull don't waste a ton of tears on I'm not on. Operators the crew staff employees had a terrible time. The pay is terrible. They have very little in the way of workers rights. To be honest with you and a lot of them were stranded just like you're saying, you know imagine. So you're a passenger right and you're stranded like the American couple off the coast of Japan more like many many other couples you are denied injury. Your vessel is denied entry to a countries the pandemic hits it's way worse when you're at a job that you can't leave. They're also refusing to pay you. Because they're not changing the agreement based on the pace schedule, it's very unethical stuff I think the cruise industry will recover at ao mean to sound callous when I, say you know don't cry too much for those cruise operators but do be very concerned about the staff of those places who were often treated like serfs. That's not the fun. Surf S E R F I think that they should. Absolutely have more rights and. I think that they are probably not I aligned to go on this coast cruise ferry. Oh, wonder what they think about it. I'm sure they they are not happy about it as an industry and I wonder if there's even I guess it's all. Public waters, you can't say, no, you can't drive by our cruise ship with your tour How can you prevent somebody from making money off that? Really Quick Point two we may have talked about this in the past but most cruise lines don't pay any federal income tax because of the structure of their corporate entities they are often have corporate h cues that are outside of the US and that's also big reason. They didn't get any bailout money. I. Wonder if you could find a way to make your corporate H. Q. of Cruise Line just somewhere in the middle of international waters right? Wing more one ship at all times, and then that's your HQ is Po box maybe just pay off box on the buoy. Do it in Delaware like everybody else does. But. Just to get back to this this you know the industry is is massive. As he said, Benaissa, it's certainly not perfect. The way it operates it is a lot of people maybe you. Just have their vacations, their holidays on a cruise ship because it's either a tradition or something that you just do. Convenient. A lot of people do that, and what Paul Durham here has done is just capitalized on that so much and also just. A maybe the humans desire to observe something out of normalcy which I think is just it's a fascination, a lot of us have and. It made me think you guys I want to ask you this question. Do you think one day now that all of these offices in cities across the world or closed when it's hard to imagine even after pandemic conditions are finished when businesses will be paying all this money in rent or leases to have all of their workers in these giant buildings. I can't imagine that happening and what I am imagining is like ghost cities essentially where there's hardly any residence. At least office residents in massive buildings in cities and even a lot of people attempting to escape cities who are leasing apartments or living in a a large building in a situation that is just. Very crowded I. What do you think? It's going to happen I mean the they're all first off. They're already ghost cities especially in the in the interior of China because they may or may not be real estate scams or state attempts to prop up the economy's year-over-year growth is one of the only things keeping a lot of the domestic population in line but I, think more directly to your question about commercial property values it's going to be very difficult for people. Because if you are a company and you start. Realizing that you're paying, you know thousands and thousands of dollars per square foot per month to have a thing that people no longer need to use than it makes sense to have people work from home and cut that cost. There's always gonNA be a wave typically generational or catastrophe responsive. There's always gonNA be a wave of people who to return to a simpler time as they envision it. and. Leave the city but cities are a human necessity. The majority of the world lives in them unless there is a much more deadly pandemic, the majority of the world will continue to do. So it's more economic opportunity you it's easier to find the silly hoops you have to jump through for social advancement like being members of whatever club in whatever city. And then they're also seats of progress human evolution brief though it is. Occurs in cities. Are Social evolution technological innovations so I think cities are I think cities are a must have what I would wonder is how long it's GonNa take. How long it's GonNa take one of those cruise companies to go bankrupt and for a A group of enterprising people maybe like the same people who created sealant or whatever that that Micronesia's called. I wonder how long it's GonNa take somebody to go and try to get squatters rights on the cruise ship I wanted to. The the phenomenon that is dead malls You know they're these massive structures that for whatever reason, not covid, related, pandemic, related, usually more just the changing of economy and like things being less focused on like huge brick and mortar buildings. They or they get replaced by a newer Shinier mall and the old ones just ended up. There's there's a website called dead malls, dot com that like I mean some of these literally looked like. Urban abandoned jungles you know with like these empty Koi ponds and stuff and. It's very, very creepy eerie. That phenomenon spreading you know to office buildings, and then maybe we have a tour. Of abandoned office parks and you know what I mean like I mean it's it's it's very eerie but I think very much within the realm of reality there's more to to dive into their when we think about property prices, rent prices, rent controls, all that kind of thing when you're talking about big cities when you're talking about even you know may maybe suburban areas that have giant malls in them. That is one of the common areas where you'll find large mall. Facilities Structures but just what happens when prices become so below in an area, maybe an INS in a city or when they become so high in area in the city and what? how everything changes where people migrate to even within a state or county or even a city suburban area. Down it's all fascinating stuff that I've been thinking about a lot in this case. I want to get back to you just the concept that you're saying haunt like ghost tours of a mall or ghost tours of cruise ship from the Royal Caribbean or wherever. I know far. Away. From. Halloween right now but I always think about ghost tours haunted tours like that. At some point I want to gather together and have like a list of really good ghost tours in cities legitimate. Legitimate ones. led. Yes. Not One where somebody's taking you on a tour and show you all the things giving you the bullet points. But like here's a map essentially of these homes and structures that are believed to be haunted. I WanNa talk about that. So we can. Maybe one day GONNA a little ghost tour. You guys love it. I love it. I have a list of that for Atlanta actually signed me up. There's a Oh man. There are a few spots I actually learned about through the graffiti crews as to Rodway th. They because those were like the spots, you could hit a year what I tell people about spot's want to blow up the spots. Everybody was convinced that everybody else was a cop probably because of all the drugs they did but they left us with a good list of supposedly haunted places I gotta dig that up and. If you're listening to us and tell us I don't care where you live. Tell us what you. Want to hear about the most places near you. And then also want to point out that there are a lot of small countries in Europe that are also under the United Kingdom through. Didn't talk about like Andorra just just. Just to get in front of that email, whatever somebody says that to us We're specifically talking about that area of church. That's where mood furred ferry is mood for Yes and if you're Ludford write to us, have you taken the ferry? Through this goes toward tell us about also if you ever worked in the strange universe of the cruise ship industry, let us know the stuff. They don't want you to know about the cruise industry We already three of US already sussed out a little bit of it but who knows perhaps it would be a. Perhaps, it would be a full episode in the future that might. Might mean. We never ever cruise ship as a sponsor I don't know what do you think is worth the risk I know a lot of or at least a handful of folks my mother's of a singing teacher and a pretty lucrative early Gig for singers is to you know maybe they don't make it on Broadway but they get a job see on a cruise ship or like being in like a variety show on a cruise ship and that in itself is a grueling situation. 'cause they're doing like you know four or five shows a day or whatever, and then subject to all the weirdnesses that you're talking about Ben, about just being in that world. I might reach out to a few of those and see with the inside scoop is about all that yeah. What I'm asking is, do you think it would be worth it to do that episode as the question I was asking do you guys think it would be worth it to do that episode if it meant that we might mix our chances of ever having a cruise company as a sponsor I think it's worth it. I don't know guys. I'm imagining a scenario where the four of the five of US including codename Doc Holliday and Mission Control go on a cruise ship to let's say Scotland Ireland, other parts of the UK the super haunted like all the places in in that area of the world where we're just cruising around doing this show every day maybe twice a day within the rest of the time we're ghost hunting conspiracy crews, river that we got so close to doing that. I would do in a heartbeat. That's true story we were. We were very happy but yeah. But let us know like like you said, no, like you said, Matt. we do know this is a this is a strange world and it's different from the world. Upon which a lot of landlubbers walked so how can you tell us about this? How can you tell us your opinion about the X. files animated spin off how can you tell us more about the human trafficking cases that are unfortunately unlike our story in Georgia, not reaching the news we want to hear from you and we do our best to make it easy to find us ironically enough given the nature of this show. You can find us on the Internet I facebook instagram twitter we are conspiracy stuff on twitter and facebook were conspiracy stuff. On. If you're looking for us in that capacity. We recommend you check out. Here's where it gets crazy where you can talk directly with the best part of the show, your fellow listeners you can also find us as individuals on some of these same social mead's yeah. You can find me on instagram at how now Noah Brown I am at Frederick Score Iheart. Good luck finding it even better luck finding anything post Matt Matt Literally Shadow Band himself. so It's an interesting. 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Shut up to the other four hundred Matt Frederick's out there that I find every time I try and look at myself anything anywhere at anytime. Other really. Yeah a buddy of mine name Kyle exclusively only has people on facebook follow him by the name of Kyle I was very impressed by this. There was a fee and utterly ridiculous feet of social media like counterintuitive nece and I didn't believe it at first but I went and looked at his friends list and almost all of them are named Kyle. He has about a thousand. Wow. In the other ones liked the parents exactly. So if you hate social media and you're more of a lake directly shouting into the void kind of person ovoid, do we have a deal for you? Was Ideal it's a phone number. It's a deal it's a steal. You can shout directly into your telephone or head gear. You know one of those Madonna Mike's People where. At one eight, three, three as twit K. that's right. Leave a message. You might end up on one of our listener mail episodes. 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GUI PreCap Week of 6-10-19

Geeks Under the Influence

06:24 min | 2 years ago

GUI PreCap Week of 6-10-19

"Uh-huh. Fill everyone and welcome. It is the pre habits. June nineteen board happen. My name is Bruce and I am going to be starting off with g WI pick of the week. It's going to be men in black internationals coming up this weekend. Some part of me just wants us to be an alternate universe of Thorin, Iraq. Both Chris Hemsworth end Tatham CIN are sorry as agents, it should be a good popcorn film. I don't think it's going to change the world. No reports. If Will Smith. Tommy Lee Jones make an appearance but I wouldn't count it out. All right, for TV pages on Monday. Nothing really newer exciting on Tuesday ABC has the premiere of press. Your luck is the old game show from the eighties with peer to Marken and Smain paramount network has ink master premier. It's the battle of the sexes FX got the premiere of poise on Wednesday ABC has premiere of card sharks box has first responders live. That's a premier Saifi has the second season premiere of krypton. John and travel network has the premiere of alien highway on Thursday. NBC has the finale of AP bio and abbey's watch him now they're probably ever gonna seem again. FX has the premiere of baskets in the science channel has strange evidence on Friday Discovery Channel has the premiere of seven builds this is with Adam Savage from Mythbusters. I'll probably watch this. He's, he's always called to watch for Saturday ovation has the Frankie Drake mysteries, premier and HBO has the premiere of the hate you give on Sunday CBS has the premiere of the good fight, which has already been on CBS all access for about a year now for a box office results in fifth place. You have rocket man. Fourth-place Godzilla king of monsters, third place at Latin second-place, you have dark Phoenix, which only made thirty three million dollars in. The first place you had the secret life of pets, too, which made forty seven million dollars for movies, like I said, you have men in black international. And you have shaft, which is the Samuel L Jackson reboot sequel that he's doing for shaft. Anna ver- DVD's. You got captain marvel five feet apart, captive state, and the Mustang for on line services net flakes. You have rolling thunder revue, the Bob Dylan story with Martin Scorsese you have co joy coming in hot Jin season, one trinkets season, one life takes over me and murder mystery on prime. You have absent Shia for video games. Nothing new or exciting. You've got some good stuff coming out in a couple of weeks for G U, GUI news. No trivia this week. You got new episodes of geeks under the influence smack my pitch up gig father and beautiful disasters. Boo. Clues their monthly show podcast, basing the housing wise of the most spirited headlines are next show is gonna be taping on June thirtieth, which is in the dark room historic off. I'm rebuilding. Join mike. The hobbit Bicket and cavalcade of comedians podcasts and performers form investigation slash riff on drunken crimes debentures activities around the world. The doors open at seven the show starts at eight, and it's free for twenty one up only for one more thing fans have anxiously been waiting for new information about ghost three. The latest installment for the classic paranormal comedy franchise. The original star sore Goni Weaver, may have just revealed the best news of all Bill Murray, and Dan, ackroyd and herself will all be returning for the project. Bill Moyes always been the one kinda holding things up, but yet, they're back in an interview with parade magazine Weaver who stars as Dana bash in the first two films confirm. That she will be reprising her role, but she couldn't reveal any other details of the time, the cast confirms that the currently untitled new movie include fin would hard from stranger things McKenna, grace from captain America and Carrie Coon from Fargo in gone, girl, Jason Reichman will be directing the film, taking up the mantle of his father, Ivan Reitman, who directed the first two Ghostbusters Reichman, who will be coat writing the script with Glenn came in who did poltergeist and monster house. So he's no stranger to go stories. What is currently unknown is the capacity of the survive the rest of the surviving cast, you got Ernie. Hudson. Amy PA are any pots and Rick moranis don't know if they're gonna return but the fans do get to see Weaver Murray and Aykroyd again, they'll be take the classic roles propel the roof through the upcoming project. The main roles Reitman is casting. Is fourteen actors two boys, two girls for the lead role to become the new Ghostbusters. Apparently now, if that doesn't get you excited about ghost precious. How about a two and a half foot tall version of one of the terror dogs. Yes spirit, how lean stores are going to be selling them online, only per five hundred bucks each. Now, if you are a huge fan that's a drop in the bucket. You're pro time packed probably cost more than that. So hey, you know what it could drop a thousand dollars? Put him outside your house. I think that'd be a good Halloween. Are this has been the GUI pre-cap you could follow along with all of the fun times at GUI pot? Gas dot com. If you wanna contact us do it geeks under the influence at g mail dot com. Call us eight oh four five oh five forty four eighty four that's eight four five five four G U. I my name is Bruce, of course, all of these things happen. I'm for the future. Be nice to each other GUI, podcast dot com.

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Joker with Director Todd Phillips and Ivan Reitman (Episode 221)

The Director's Cut

25:14 min | 1 year ago

Joker with Director Todd Phillips and Ivan Reitman (Episode 221)

"Hello and thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Director's cut brought to you by the directors guild of America featuring today's top directors sharing behind the scene stories of the latest films and insights into the craft of directing. Please take a second subscribe to our show wherever you get thank you either. In addition to joker Mr Phillips credits include Feature Films Road Trip Old School Starsky and Hutch School for scoundrels the so brave I mean you're dealing with the character you know this is really a character study period and in the Philip spoke with director Ivan Reitman about filming Joker listen for their conversation Eddie did but it's amazing you know to sit and watch this amazing movie I I believe it's one of those kinds of films Mike Comedies as I got more successful comedies and got to do more and more of what I wanted to do they got darker and Darker and away but also for me the whole I mean the most obvious question as someone who's mostly worked in comedy is so how'd you get here what you know this is a really difficult he seems trapped somewhere between apathy and cruelty until one bad decision starts him on the path to becoming the criminal mastermind known as the joker that you're going to remember were you were the first time you saw it really an amazing piece of work and cute and starting from those comedies the film tells the story of Arthur flack a would be comedian who is struggling to find his way in the fractured society of Gotham city earning his living as a clown for higher movie in all kinds of ways difficult for you and difficult for the audience and I never saw as big as a leap is a lot of people do I think a hangover due date on war dogs following a recent screening of the film at the Dj Theater in Los Angeles Mr came up to me and he goes can you write and I lied and said Yeah right the only thing I had written at that point was narration for my documentaries and then a deep dive character study and that's really where it started off from but but how do you make the leap from this to that I mean we were just talking outside you know it's all it's all actually my son Jason Jason was twenty years ago he said you should come I just saw this documentary Brad House and then approach of it was so much in comedies at least my comedies about groups of people doing movies about groups of people and I really wanted to do a movie about one person because I was being ridiculous I pitch them a label not just one movie I said you know we should start we already we should start this thing at warners I I've been this is a thrill for me because I've been was the producer on my first two movies the only reason I make movies is because Ivan Reitman discovered me at Sundance Film Festival and retelling it's all beginning middle and an end it's all really what what is it director purveyor of tone you decide your tone and you just go for it he's told me this idea of a movie you always wanted to make and it was called road trip in he said he said Oh do this quick I know we're here to talk about this he goes you know the party animals still obviously it's a while because we're taking a property that they owned wasn't I can go anywhere else with that idea they owned the character but really the whole the whole pitch was clean and a half two billion dollars like we had with the hangover and a couple of other movies wedged in there he goes you you earned you earn a lot of goodwill he goes but in this town goodwill is perishable upon and probably a lot of people in here the reason we're here these movies that were made in the seventies and early eighties and they said all right calm down you're not starting a label villains of different villains and we do them for really cheap and there's no real CG and there's no flying cars and all that stuff and go and the things in the movie so finally they did it but I know now looking back it was a pretty bold swing on their part as well well I think like I said I've been there for fifteen years I think I've been through four or five of those regimes so then it was about convincing that whole new regime a about what this was and making it it was like fifty five million dollar movie but to them it's like so it was about keeping the budget low and really we finally I'm rushing it then you know I had the script in and all of a sudden it's a whole new group of people at Studios because a lot of times things regimes change and her but maybe maybe do one movie maybe write it and we'll look and we'll you know we'll see it and I could feel label coming maybe question probably which is so I went to a great old school producer told me over lunch one day he said you know when you make a studio I know it's crazy I'm not delusional so I understand their trepidation I don't mean to be like they had no vision because they really wanted to do it but they were wrestling with some different that was that was the thing too keen was has always been resistant to to sort of the standard studio movies and even though I said this is a comic book movie but it's not he read the script but he's also just somebody that doesn't really wants to talk about it a lot and I think we spent three months I spent three months to his house we will do the script talk about House I loved Animal House growing up who didn't use part animal house where they go on the road trip he goes I always thought that could be its own movie as yeah okay I could do that and we went off and wrote it Ah I said we should call it. DC black and the first one would be joker and I WANNA do I wanNA ride it and I'm going to go off and do this this thing and it's going to be in the vein and the style of we saw that it wasn't it still says DC it's still called joker I think of the movie was called Arthur and had nothing to do with it would have been an easier thing the approach the thing you know and and then it would end we'd have a great three are meeting and I thought he's going to stand up and shake my hand and say I'm in and he'd go what are you doing on Thursday and after a six eight months of dancing through some things we we were able to convince them to do it and I mean it's a bold swing the movie's crazy how was he on the set what was that like to be working with them did he could you told him down your home a guy he's beyond erectile and he is he's felt like a small movie even though it was a big movie shooting on the streets of New York and stuff like that and his movement and the musicality of it is kept it down you know thanks to mazing have David Webb and his team Larry My ep in the whole crew we really kept it warners for fifteen years so I do feel like I've worked there but as we should start a label called DC black where you do these strip down character studies of my id but it really came down to keeping it low budget at warners low-budget relatively speaking and ver- them this is like an independent movie And I think he felt really liberated with the size of the movie I think he thought it was GonNa be a studio movie in in that world and WHO's GonNa be it's really quite wonderful how did that evolve that the choreography is that he starts to develop or he develops are you develop together and you have to use it and I thought that was really smart so I took all that goodwill and I went there with this idea and they resisted it guide you gotta walk in Phoenix I mean is extraordinary in this phone right did that come easily or was that a bit of whatever's going on in life he has a rancid sense of humor in in a great way and we would just he was really light believe it or not well in one of those three month meetings at his house I randomly said to him I don't I set a lot of things certain things really stuck with him I don't even necessarily remember saying this I was sins that are in the script were dance ones but for instance the the very first one in the bathroom really just came on the day of shooting and he just did he's joker and that music and finally sing you know and so it expresses in the script we had only really two points where it was expressed through dance as out masks and the masks we wear out in public and the true self underneath it and how Arthur is really the mask when he takes the mask off he's finally liberated you can come back I'll be here Thursday and that went on for like three months because he really could dissect stuff I jokingly say much bigger than it was and I think he said to me one day you know it feels ago student film that any meant that in in a positive way we really kept the seventies speak up I was like I feel being allowed to is going to be in the vein of the style of these seventies movies that I scrambling trying to say things that are going to do it no but I did say you know Arthur has music in Him Arthur has grace it's just sort of hidden under this thing we talked a lot the move does he really concerned himself with evidence it doesn't seem like an Arthur thing and we sat around for like forty five minutes not knowing what to do coming up with bad ideas and sometimes as is also not what you think he's not lost in this character we spent half the day when we weren't shooting in a corner laughing about stuff not about the movie there was no choreographer there anything yeah because that scene wasn't supposed to be that so you want me to tell that story quick Oh sure okay so that was keenest the tunnel at the end of the light we get we would get close and then it would be so finally crazies that sounds of now I think there's like five dance moments in the movie because he really hooked into that he worked with a Great Korea every Michael Arnold on the two stop the script we had written was he washes the makeup off his face he's freaked out he's going to hide the gun and kind of pulls this great off under the sink and he hides the gun under the great didn't he kills the guys on the subway we just just to give you an idea of what Kim how he works guys get killed on the subway he runs through the street runs into that grungy bathroom and gay camera operator and Larry was doing Larry's the Scimitar was doing be camera and I said to jeff put Larry in the bathroom stall just like that and said the jeff that he had like there was a romance Arthur that we just felt a little bit of the chaplains stuff we we talked earlier about chaplain when we were writing the script one of the once we started researching it it actually inspired the original joker character in the comic books kidding yeah which we didn't even know and then it became this thing so a lot of like little silent things role of the combat of Comic Universe and I mean how did you get Warner Brothers to say yes to this that's a beggar but that's that's a better very energetic wonderful shots that was we shot that in Newark New Jersey which has this great four blocks stretch that still kinda run down it's a really nasty place and you're really captured amazingly and how tough it is to shoot a New York and you want to set just scrambling and and just talking it out and then I randomly said to him you know I got this new piece of music from Hilda Hilda good doors the composer she the shadow thing thing there's the major dances and there's a little toe tapping things that he started to do it starts to become and then Mark Friedberg who's out production designer and his team came in and just really a head to toe that gave a stretch of two or three blocks that was pretty good looking at references going through books and really making it feel my sort of edict to the crew in general was I want the movie to feel like it came out in the summer of nineteen seventy nine it felt like it came out at that time I think one of the reasons that we're starting to read about people's worry worries about the danger of looked out with Joaquin to like Chaplin and you know so anyway he had music in them dancer and of course the the other this film you don't want to be talking about this is is because it's it feels so realistic it doesn't it's not a comedy a Leitmotif of the of the whole yeah I think that came again from that idea that he has a little we wrote the script that he has panache did an amazing job is amazing and yeah I agree I said I got this new piece of music from Hilter the other night I go I just want to play it for you the first third you start to feel them change in the second third and by the last act these really hateful and dangerous and so are keen and I walked into the set that morning and every morning started we really GonNa do it this way and we started talking about why would arthur hide the gun did he Kim did and yes the whole movies Joaquin like it's it's a character study and he's essentially in every frame of the movie so how sorry didn't mean reputation and the the weight of the city which was really different than what I felt when I was there in one thousand nine hundred four to ghostbusters look it is really a character study and and a very honest look and you know psychosis and craziness and the complexity of life thing about it was wonderful to well okay so I was surprised to be totally honest about it becoming this dangerous thing but I'm not again delusional I understand what you're saying the subtle way that he does his the way he does this performances culminating in that extraordinary sequence on thank you some movies I think that we're it celebrated the violence which in an odd way to me would seem more dangerous but you know it's a tough thing to about because I hate to give oxygen to that idea because they don't believe it I think it's something that was sort of created around this film and people buy into it becomes other thing and so it's actually a tough thing it's they call it Gotham city but it really was New York as I remember it in nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine really felt legitimately dirty tell them we're doing it said Jeff just start on his foot I'm GonNa play this thing we stuck a speaker there and just go and the operator didn't know what he was going to do and we must have done the first things we looked at when we were writing the script was the man who laughed which is a silent film from Nineteen Twenty eight that really we didn't even know it we were looking at it but the transformation if you watch the movie again it really is like taking a volume knob going from zero to eleven spinal tap but yeah and going things everybody says Oh it's based you borrow and sort of from these movies Lumet and Scorsese and these great movies that we grew up on but nine if they made comic book movies everything nine which thankfully they didn't but and that was sort of the thing and really to actually feel not a movie about that time but using to that we could do those foot chases in that run but yeah I mean with with mark and Larry and mark bridges costume designer everything was just forgot his name very Frankel show yeah so what is the question no I'm not saying that but no I mean how are you talk about because it was never the intention the intention was made an origin story about a villain where the villain is the hero and root for him until you can't route from any longer and childhood trauma it's about lack of love it's about the loss of empathy and compassion in society that these things are not created in Iraq more responsible way of showing violence is showing the real world implications of hurts and that it hurts and that it's ugly and it's disgusting and it's like as opposed to today and you manage the we've this really complex story where he's extraordinarily simple you know he's really sympathetic in Freddie and tragedy in many comedians as I do and funny people we've made movies with a lot of them there is something a little tragic about a lot of them not all of them I love the music we talk about that for just a second to talk about that how how early did you only three takes of it and that's the whole scene and and walking just did this Danson it's the idea of joker sort of trying to come out of him you know that sort of thing but that whole desire is the darkness in him really was something we that I've seen in other comics that really resonated you know really created something very special thank you gotta make another comedy another well this movie also to me when I was entirely relied on Joaquin's beautiful performance where he goes from zero to eleven it's not superman where he goes into a phone booth and comes out he's joker and I literally played it on my iphone and we're both listening to it and Joaquin just starts doing this movement and so then we realized what it should be and I called in Jeff Haley who's three months before we started shooting I said to start writing music now I had never done that before I don't know if you have something I never did before and she basically sent me hours a her up I called her age and I emailed her and I said Hey I love what you did I have this script and working on can I send you the script may be interested in doing it I'm like well it's because it's realistic violence but in a weird way to me and I had said the city day and probably got attacked for it among other things but to me it almost seemed under the script she called me on the phone we talked for forty five minutes you really affected her she understood the themes about the compassion the loss of the loss of compassionate all those things you know point one at a time and you feel it coming so this guy you do sort of love and root for intervening by the end he's a raging narcissist in a way but yeah he's the villain I mean we were making we would play that Music Jeff Haley operator had it in his ear and an earpiece we would play it when we were looking at playback we would play when we were shooting to the signed her and know about her I didn't know I don't know about it he hasn't done a lot so I was writing the script and went and saw sicario too gene chases never mind the ending which is remarkable but even that opening one where the four kids are bashing over his head you take them through willow street's maybe two hours of music before we started shooting and we would play that music onset all the time perfect example is the bathroom dance I was talking about basically about one person I'm good anybody have any questions I love it oh go ahead loss of empathy and all the things we were talking about and I said I want to try something different if you want to do it I said well you just write the score based off the script I said we're talking we're loud would ultimately becomes joker when we released early images on the Internet of this movie because we `Paparazzi everywhere on the set and so I started releasing st much you can see it though yes it was always there the rhythms and the in the playing yeah so it's really really informed it I mean the one thing I learned very quickly when you're making a character study about

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What Are Some Good Elevated Horror Movies, If Thats Really Even a Thing? Ghostbusters, Warner Bros & Movie Theaters with Beds

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What Are Some Good Elevated Horror Movies, If Thats Really Even a Thing? Ghostbusters, Warner Bros & Movie Theaters with Beds

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash on daily for Friday June, seventh two thousand nineteen on today's episode. We're talk with the latest film, and TV news, in the mailbag will talk about elevated horror films, this lashawn editor in chief, Peter Surata doing that to his podcast, a slush on weekend or bad omen. Hey, that's me senior then Pearson. Hey, what's going on in writer, Chris jalousie? Hello, folks. So Brad is actually in my house today. He is a visiting. Los Angeles pride. Why are you here? I just wanted to come here and look at all your cool stuff and play with your dogs. Pretty much it. So there's no other purpose of you being in Los Angeles. I mean, I guess I'm here to go to some Ghostbusters fan fest thing, that's happening this weekend. It's the first one ever happening on the Sony Pictures lot, where the ghost core offices are apparently, there's gonna be some cool stuff. Hopefully, some cool news. And, you know, a bunch of things. Honestly, I have no idea what to really expect us the first time they've done this. So I don't know how it's situated or how, you know, what's going to be like, when they have the, there's a panel it's supposed to have Ivan Reitman and Jason Reitman and puffy, and Dan ackroyd talking about all the Ghostbusters movies. So who knows? It could be something awesome. It could be. You know, something average we'll, we'll find out. So we could I sure hope there are no girls at this, this festival, because girls are not allowed in the world of Ghostbusters. I actually drove by the Sony Pictures a lot, then there was like a hand painted sign from little rascals said he made club. So I think I think he'll be fine. Chris Paul is here. So I mean yeah but he's a guy he's allowed in. He's a man, if you were lady, they would stop him at the door and say, I'm sorry Ghostbusters is for men and boys. Not ladies, I would laugh so hard. If the cast of Ghostbusters, answer the call showed up with fake mustaches on just pretending to be boys, so hours on the Sony Pictures lot when they launched the, the trailer for Ghostbusters the movie, and they had a lot of fans on the lot that day, you know, many of them wearing their proton packs and stuff. And there was a lot of females there that day crest, so they're allowed that, but they're not allowed there now. That was been a glitch someone got fired for that blunder. Let me tell you, I will say that day, I think was a free event this day. How much you tickets to the Ghostbusters fan fest costs? Brad. The, the ticketing was pretty outrageous when those first now it's like I think the lowest package for this the event was like five hundred dollars. But because the prices are so high. And I guess some people were complaining they introduced a lower to your ticket package was pretty bare bones. But even that was still like one hundred and twenty five dollars, and it's only for MO what is mostly a one day event that lasts from noon until eight on Saturday. But I guess because of the exclusively of actually being on the Sony lot, like near the Ghostbusters offices where they're going to have a bunch of cool stuff is probably why it's so expensive. But it we'll see if it ends up being worth it keeping the women out by by having the price of five hundred dollars because only men would pay that go to Ghostbusters one day event and the women underpaid. So that's why they can't afford it. You know, if someone's listening to this podcast for the first time they probably think we're massive sexist and don't get that were joking. So just be clear Juki. Okay, let's move onto. The news. Let's talk about the news. Let's start off with Ghostbusters. We have learned something about the new Ghostbusters film, Brad, we know yet today out of nowhere. There was news from Sigourney Weaver herself. She apparently did an interview with parade magazine of all places, and they were talking about what she has in store for the future. And there was some discussion about the new character. She's playing in the avatar movies, although there weren't any details revealed on it. And then she apparently confirmed that she will be reprising her role as Dana Barrett in the new Ghostbusters sequel, she wouldn't give any details except to say that she's playing that same role again. And she, there was one, quote in the store that said it's going to be crazy working with the guys again. And the fact that she said that the in the story, it was mentioned that she's working with specifically, Bill Murray, and Dan ackroyd. And that in itself is also news because we've yet to hear of any of the legacy cast members officially coming back in a starring. Capac-. City for the sequel, we know Dan ackroyd is producing and co writing this movie, but we had no idea whether or not the original Ghostbusters would actually be appearing, or if any of them, which ones would, and it's the first time we've heard that Bill Murray is involved in any capacity. He a little while back had said that he'd be happy to join if he was asked, which is the same reason he ended up doing the cameo in Ghostbusters. Answer the call. But if this is true, then it seems like they're getting mostly original Ghostbusters. There's no word on whether or not only Hudson will come back as Winston's at a more. But one would've Brad what else is he busy doing? It's a good question. I mean, maybe maybe they'll be doing a revival of Oz. At some point. I don't know. I think he'll be back. I think they're going to all be back. The, the real question here is in what capacity are they going to be back? Like we know the story take like foles, this set of kids, almost like stranger things style. Like, are these kids going to be? The descendants of any of these ghostbuster, there's, there's supposedly some kind of connection to one of the original character somehow, but it's not indicated as to how they're connected, whether it's familial or whether or not, they just happen to live next to one of them. But there's there will be some kind of connection that the new characters have to someone from the original franchise as it goes posters fan. Are you more excited knowing they're coming back, because I feel like their involvement in the last film was actually one of the things I didn't like about that movie. I mean. Yeah, I, I liked it. And I didn't like in that movie because I appreciate they were making cameos but it just felt weird that they weren't playing the characters from the original franchise mostly, because the new movie was such a hardcore reboot, separate from the other franchise. But I do like the idea of freeing them back. I'm I'm cautiously optimistic about the sequel we, we don't really know much about it or how it's going to continue the Ghostbusters story or anything. So having them all back, cool. Hopefully it's more than. Just, you know, an obligation for them. And it's you know something that Ghostbusters fans and general audiences will enjoy. We'll very cold. Look forward to your coverage on the site and probably on the water cooler on Monday yesterday afternoon. It was revealed that Warner media's streaming service could cost as much as seventeen dollars for month, Chris, what is going on here. Yes. So the water media streaming service, which I don't think really has a name yet. I think we're just calling the Warner streaming service, by the way, the call at one or media, like everybody calls them Warner Brothers. Well, you know, they, they have other things. Now, there's, there's more than brothers. There's the one or sister dot so they want to include her in the conversation. Warner brothers. They're putting other entering service because everyone has to have a streaming service now and. They're apparently going to be one of the priciest streaming services around. Maybe even the priciest Netflix right now is, is run around twelve ninety nine for their standard plane. Hulu is five ninety nine with ED's eleven ninety nine without ads Amazon prime is twelve ninety nine but Warner media is, is said to be between sixteen and seventeen dollars a month. Which is it's a it's a pretty penny. That's not cheap the, the argument, I guess, for it here is that it's going to include HBO and Cinemax in, like one big bundle, plus a bunch of Warner Brothers originals. But I, I don't know. I don't know if people are going to go for this or not. That's, that's, that's not cheap by I think a lot of us already are paying some somewhat up to, like fifteen dollars a month for HBO alone. So two extra dollars to get all, like, you know, huge Warner Brothers film library, and then probably a ridge. Channels like the stuff that we're seeing the DC universe at that lasts like it seems like a good deal for two dollars extra. I don't know that two dollars adds up Peter know you could go down the candy store, get yourself some gummy worms that two dollars a month. You know, it adds up Ben, I know you are often skeptical of new streaming services in reluctant to subscribe would is seventy dollars. Too much for wonders media. I mean when you break it down like all the stuff that you're getting, it's actually not that bad. But with Disney plus coming out of the gate, you know that that services supposed to launch in November, I think, and their, their price point is so much lower than this end, you get arguably more stuff with them. So it just seems like they're trying to change the game and make everybody else look bad. So, you know, the difference between Disney plus in Warner media's number of right now unless they change it is, is very stark. So I don't know. I'm not sure I guess it's all different different strategies. And I'm sure they have been counters who have, you know, run the numbers and figured out that this is the right move for them. But it just, you know, when you put when you stack them up right next to each other. It's a the disparity is pretty extreme. So, basically, by the, by the end of the day, when we're subscribing to all the streaming services, we're, we're gonna end up paying more than we were paying for cable. I think. Yeah. And then, you know, some of us are still actually paying for cable, too, so that sucks saw as well. Okay, let's talk about seventy nine years. This is a comedy described as goonies for dolts. Ben would we know? Yes. So cake cannon, who wrote the pitch perfect movies and made her direct Oriel debut last year with a comedy called blockers has found her next directorial project, and it is a movie called seventy nine years, which was originally written by actor writer bench Wirtz, who many of you will probably know as the guy who played John Ralph Izzo in parks and recreation, the premise for this movie, the, the film follows a group of a strange friends who are forced back together after twenty years to complete a treasure hunt. They attempted as misfit teens but never completed and Schwartz, apparently is no longer with the project. Looks like a Dylan Meier has been hired to rewrite the script, but yeah, that's what we know so far cake Hanan. It's a pretty solid director. I mean, she's, she's one for one as far as I'm concerned, blockers was surprisingly enjoyable, although I have. My issues with the adult side of that story. I think the team in stuff is way better there. And this movie is I think is supposed to follow a bunch of people who are in their thirties, or or maybe late thirties. So I'm not sure if it's going to have maybe the same charm as the as her work in blockers did. But the president of the Lionsgate, motion picture group, said Kay is wonderful capturing characters in situational conflict and the perfect perfect choice for this re engineered coming of age comedy. I hope when we are finished with this film, it feels like goonies for adults so seems like sort of an aspirational goal for them. Well, I'm interested in that. I want, I want more adventure stories that either kids or adults. So I I'm in and I really liked blockers. I might have even liked it more than book smart. Which I know have gotten groans from some of you, but Brad, you were a fan of blockers weren't you? Yeah, I love lockers. I think it's fantastic. So are you excited for this one? You know, I mean I'm always down for a new comedy that skewed towards adults. There's seems to be few and far between are rated comedies nowadays. The studios don't find them as lucrative. And I think Kay cannon is definitely on, on the rise of the filmmaker. She, you know, she proved what you can do behind the camera, blockers. And plus, you also wrote a pitch perfect, which I love, and she used to be a writer and producer on thirty rock, so she has great comedic sensibilities. And I'm I'm down to see whatever she does. You know, when I was back in the day, when I was reading scripts someone, I knew with wrote a script that was basically goonies for adults which is about a bunch of adults who learned of this legend of Alkap owns hidden. He had a lot of like alcohol hidden like during the prohibition days. And they basically went out to find that treasure. Never got made anyways, okay? Let's move onto our last news story for today. This is a boat. A Swiss movie theater chain is replaced, all of its seats with beds, Chris. What do we know? That's that's really what we know cinema path is what the feeder is called in, in Switzerland. They have instead of seats they have beds, and don't worry. They're going to change the sheets after each screening. So if you're, if you're going to Switzerland, and you want to go to the bed, theater, you don't have to get into dirty sheets, which, I guess, is a plus and they also serve you food you can get hot dogs, who doesn't wanna eat a hot dog in bed. I do it all the time. I'm doing it right now in fact, and yeah, that's, that's the longest short of it. Okay. I guess the big question here is do we really want to watch movies while laying down in a bed like I know AMC theaters now with their prime seats like basically let you reclined to the point that it is almost straight back. You're, you're basically, like you're laying in bed. But I guess this has bedsheets. There's pillows is the whole the whole whole whole deal. He get the sheets the pillows. See I, I like watching movies while I'm in bed, but one. Part of me like he's like, oh, that's, that's kind of cool. But the other part of me remembers, you know, when I was in New York, a bunch of years ago, and there was this whole bedbugs scare of everybody was telling me, don't go to the movie theaters, because there's like bedbugs and the seats and all this all this fear. Like, I think it'd be afraid to be sleeping in these beds that strangers are not sleeping, but watching a movie in bed with sheets. I mean Chris would you do it? No. I don't mind watching movies in bed. But that's like in the privacy of my own. I don't wanna get in bed in front of people. It's just weird like just gaining in a bed and people are like standing around me lake it get out of here. Chris, what does it? What does the theater going to do about all the horny teens? They'll have a plan. They just say that, they're they have faith that things won't get a Randy naughty, in this imitators. So I guess fingers crossed horny teens vote come in and get it on during screenings. I, I have no faith in that whatsoever. That's what's going to be happening there. This is basically like, you know, those motels church by the hour. This is a motel that's going to be charging by the two hour time period. I think anyways, okay, let's, let's, let's go to our mailbag, Matt from New Jersey writes in his question geared towards Chris, I've never been much of a horror fan that is until the likes of hereditary the which. Us. The thing is I don't see myself enjoying the majority of horror films as much as I have these recent ones, every time I talked to friends about these movies, they think some kind of horror fan, all of a sudden and, but I really wouldn't consider myself one, my question is, what is it about these films that you think makes them more enjoyable to non horror fans? So Chris, I'll post that question to you. I I don't really know. Maybe it's because they're really good. I, I love the horror genre. I am a huge car fan. I think people have a preconceived cre- preconceived notion of what horror is. And I think the, the landscape of horror films over the last few years has sort of hammered that home that horror films are only movies with jump scares or there's things like, you know, the conjuring movies or, you know, the insidious movies and nothing against us. I really liked those movies, but horror can be so much more than just, you know, loud banging noises and cool faces rushing at the camera. And I don't think a lot of people realize that I think they just immediately assume if it doesn't have that it's not an ARA film. I also think that's why when movies like, you know, the witch and it comes at night, and stuff like that comes out, you have people who are like, well, that's not really a horror film, even though it absolutely is. But they just immediately think of this isn't have jump scares. It can't actually har-. And I think the, the, the sooner people realize horror has unlimited potential. It can be so much to so many people, they'll start enjoying it more. That's, that's my only guess as to why Matt, you know, not, not the cell match. Sure. Maybe he does have an idea of what horror is Jonah, but, you know, these films. There are there are a lot more there. Allow more slow burning. There are a lot more I guess subtle although, hereditary isn't really subtle, but they're so compared to something like, you know, insidious, so the, the they try and blend their horror with drama. I guess is what they're these movies are doing, even like the witch which has supernatural stuff. It's like a it's like a costume dramas. So those films kind of try and be more than just, you know, jump scares, I I'm guessing. That's what might be inter drawing. Matt to these films in particular. Do you think it's I mean it seems like for many years now, the horror genre? The majority of the horror genre is was trying to appeal to a lower common denominator, like horror was the first like Jonah. I think that there was many sequels like, in the in the, the, the days of FREDDY, Krueger and Jason and all that stuff. Like there was so many sequels. And it felt like it was just trying to. Appeal the fanciers peel. The jumps scares all the stuff that you're, you're worried like you're, you're mentioning here. But there's always been. There's always been like horror films have been more elevated is the I'm going to the word. I'm to use like I feel like exorcist or nowadays these the films that he mentioned. But I know horror film, her horror fans have taken issue with the word of elevated horror movie. So why is elevated horror movie bad, because even you describing yet I it seemed like you said something like horror films that are more like are greater like that feels like elevated right? The problem was with having a thing that's you know determines it to be elevate. You know, breaking it off into its own sub-genre like that is, it's sort, sorta like it just sells the John, rare short as a whole and what happens with this is I feel like elevator Harza problem as a term, because people try to use it when they're trying to distance themselves from horror, as a whole they're like, well, I don't really like horror movies. I like elevate our movies, but they're all horror movies. I mean, look like you know l has horror and the title I feel like it's not doing that. I feel like people just want a word to grab on to describe this thing like this new wave of thing, I think horror fans from experience, are very sensitive in the term in the way that they, they want their John or to be taken seriously and for a long time. People didn't take her seriously. And you know they spent. You know, people tend to think of horror, as, as something for, you know, teens and since the eighties on horror has been sort of geared towards teens, even like R rated movies, and you know, people who loved the genera and no, it can be a lot more than, you know, scream knock offs. Not that not that there's anything wrong scream but they they've tried so long to be like take us seriously. Understand that Har is a real genre. It's not just something that it's not just something frivolous. It can have really important themes. It can have something to say and have an actual message. And when you suddenly, come in now and be like, well, that's elevated har- that's not horror, people, people get a little upset about that. I mean it's like an umbrella Peter, it's like the people in the horror community want to their standing under the same umbrella and they're, they're trying to draw people in and say, look, it's, it's pretty great under here. You know, there's, there's a lot of really good stuff under here. But then some people are trying to form this new term, and pull them outside of. That umbrella. And it's just I mean you can see how it could be sort of been insulting thing. I mean, there's, there's so much room for so many different types of things under that umbrella too. And I think the real thing that Matt is hitting on in this Email is like the difference between jump scares, which Chris talked about, and like dread. I think that, that is like the through line of movies, like hereditary in the witch and us. You know, there's that that Erie feeling that's different than just the scare and yes, that is different than a lot of stuff that appears in the John, right? But, you know, to completely pull it out just seems like the wrong way to go about doing the same thing happens in the comedy genre. Like there's the whole drama de genre, which I think is kind of elevated comedy. I don't say elevated comedy. But it's is drama d-, like when, when you see little miss sunshine, people just call that a comedy. It's a drama eighty and I feel like it's there too, because we want to categorize things in different. As and I feel like you need to category. I don't know. I'm not I'm not gonna argue for the word elevated because I could see how that could be. A bit pretentious could be used to, you know, in a negative way. But I feel like there, there must be some kind of word, but let's move on from there. I wanted to ask you guys. What are some other good? What are some other good elevated horror movies? What, what other word IMAS fussy us guys? Anybody I don't I don't know, just call him horror movies. I mean, I, I should say that I don't tend I don't really get that upset when people do term, but I don't think it's necessary what I would say, but I feel like when you read this Email. I'm sure this guy isn't gonna love, you know, the jump scare horror movies in the slasher films and scream and Fred, and all that kind of stuff, I think he's looking for what people would term elevated horror film. So I'm wondering you know what? What else would you recommend him? As somebody who not in the, you know, not nearly as big of a genre fan as Chris in this area. I would just say, like get out, is the one that immediately comes to mind, but I'm sure everybody's already seen get out of the points that movie it was like a full-fledged phenomenon. It came out, so, yeah. Yeah. I feel like maybe it follows or the Bobby Duke. Yeah. I, I would say those fitting there, even like us is what you know, you could you could consider to be part of the, you know, the quote unquote elevated horror genre. Let the right one in might be a good one too. Right. Yeah. But I do think there, there have been films throughout the years like this isn't a new thing. Like I said, there's exorcists silence of the lambs there's always been horror films that have been more dramatic in more serious in nature. Thank rate like, Chris, what is like the most early horror film, that you would consider in that category, what to be serious the year deal like the universal films of the, you know, the thirties where geared more towards adults. So those are serious, even though they're dealing with, you know, vampires and stuff like that. Yeah. Well anyway, we actually have a really good article about why elevated horn isn't really a thing that went up on in June. Share? It was written by Jacob night, so you should check that out and see why people don't like elevated horror. Yeah, we will add that to the show notes in case you want to check that out. But I think that brings us to the end of today slash on daily. If you have a question to write us in the mailbag, send it to Peter slash on com and please leave your name in general geographic location. In case you mention the question on the air, you can find more of overwork. It's lashawn dot com. You can find this podcast slush on daily polish every weekday and I tunes, Google overcast, Spotify all the popular podcast apps in please rate and read this podcast tunes. Tell your friends for the word, but we'll see you on Monday. So Ben, you, you don't watch any horror you do. I mean I do I'm just I'm not nearly. I mean Christmas like immersed in it. He just came back from a horror film, festival for God's sakes. So I just I don't want to pretend like I'm many sort of authority on the subtext. What is your favorite horror film of all time? Man, but is a good question. The one that immediately jumps to mind is the first night of the living dead. I've, I've just I'm only seeing that movie once, but it was only, you know, a year ago, or something like that, that I finally caught up with it, but that is, I think a good example of the type of movie that Chris talking about where it's like, you know, a it's a horror movie for sure. But it also has allegory like deep themes, you can get into a lot of stuff to really sink your teeth into the movie like that, for sure.

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