35 Burst results for "Isis"
What Is the Biggest Threat Facing America?
"Is the threat to America? Let's listen to the man who should be in charge for domestic threats. He is the director of the federal bureau of investigations, Chris ray. So whenever we've had the chance, we've tried to emphasize that this is a top concern and remains so for the FBI. In fact, in fact, we viewed it as such a critical threat that back in June of 2019, under my leadership, we elevated racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism to our highest threat priority. On the same level with ISIS and homegrown violent extremists. But what kind of racially motivated terrorism and violence? Is it Black Lives Matter? Is it a tax against Asians in New York by another ethnic minority? No, Christopher wray was talking about white supremacy. White nationalism has been raised. You heard his words white nationalism has been raised to the same threat level. He didn't use the word. Jihadism, but he mentioned Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Bill O'Reilly: Iran Is Funding a Terrorist Army
"And what about Iran Iran's role in so much of this And again that was another reason why these people talk to me because they want Americans to know how evil the Mueller is really are So in every part of the Middle East and in Africa agents from Iran who were under the control of Soleimani before we vaporized him with a missile fired from a drone and we walked you through that minute by minute But in every part of the Middle East and Africa Iran is funding an arming these horrible terrorists who murder and torture behead innocent people And yet there's no reportage because reporters aren't on the scene People don't know what's happening And everything that does happen is put in a class of 5 files So I'll give you a good vivid example There is right this minute campaigns in Africa involving U.S. special forces on the ground Who are fighting with ISIS and Boko Haram And we depict one firefight that's harrowing And a number of Americans were killed but nobody will ever know that unless they read killing The Killers
Bill O'Reilly: Afghan Debacle Allowed ISIS to Reconstitute
"And why do they want the American people to know that Because we are eliminating evil on this planet At a rate never before seen We are taking these people out we are destroying Trump destroyed ISIS And you know it's funny he doesn't really make a big deal out of that But what the Trump administration did to ISIS is historical And unfortunately now with Biden in the Afghanistan the allowed Al-Qaeda to reconstitute in the northeast part of Afghanistan which they are doing now And ISIS is back in western Iraq and northern Syria Now why are they back for one reason only to kill infidels in Americans are at the top of that list
How the Lord Told Victor Marx to Go to Iraq Through His Wife
"And it eventually led to the opportunity to go to Iraq when ISIS invaded and started attacking and killing and the lord told me to go through my wife. And I had just come back from Burma and she's like, I think the lord wants you to go to Iraq. And I'm like, no, he doesn't. And we got in a good discussion about it. And I'm like, hey, I still got the mosquito fever right now. I'm not ready to, and she goes, we ought to pray. Have you prayed yet? I'm like, what's that got to do with it? And she said, pray. And I did. I didn't even finish the prayer. The lord said, yeah, you're going to go. And then I put together a team, the mission was to help some girls who had been held captive by ISIS to help them recover from the trauma of it. And this was while ISIS is everywhere. I put together a great team, former SEAL Team guys, delta, some marines, did I say seal? Still team guys, because if there's a picture taken, you got to have a seal. I served in the Marine Corps, so some of you will get that. And put the team together. I said, okay, this is the mission.
The Time Someone Asked to Pet Victor Marx's ISIS-Fighting Dog
"One of the funniest things about scout we were in a big airport. And we're walking and a guy in the gal walk up to me and the young guy goes, can I pet your dog? I said, well, first thank you for asking, 'cause it says, do not pet. And I said, sure, go ahead. So the girl's partner and the guy standing next to her. When she was done, he went to Petter. And I went, oh, I wouldn't do that. It was why not? I said, well, she's not really trained to allow men to pet her, and sure as I'm sitting here, he in a very loud voice with a lot of people watching goes, why are you judging my gender? And I said, uh, leave it. It's not a threat. Unless it's a threat. And then we'll just unhook this for a minute. We'll continue to talk. So this guy goes, why are you judging my job? Leave it. Brothers, come see. So when he said, why do judging my gender leave it? I said, your gender, and it was a guy. And I was like, 'cause you're a guy. And he goes, you have no right to judge my gender. And everybody's watching now. And, you know, I'm the older white man who's a threat to America and. I can feel the eyes, so I just go, well, okay, man, hey, okay. Peter if you want children side with gender, you are. He opted not to pet her.
Why Is the U.S. Comfortable Associating With Ukrainian Nazis?
"If America had a KKK battalion within our own military. I want you to imagine if we were supporting groups that were Nazis. Well, we are. Actually. It's amazing. It's just shocking to me how the left wing regime media has spent years smearing all of us as Nazis, anyone who dares show up at school board meetings as Nazis and then they fund actual real-life Nazis in Ukraine. And this is not like a slur or an exaggeration, there's a video right here that we see in front of us where there is literally a guy wearing a Nazi symbol in full tattoos with fully automatic machine guns saying in Ukrainian like we're going to go kill the Russians. And so the argument then goes will Charlie, we have to back somebody because Vladimir Putin is evil. I agree. Vladimir Putin is evil. Well then under that logic, why didn't we back ISIS to go fight Bashar al-Assad? What if both sides could be really bad? Now, this is the backbone of some of the Ukrainian resistance in Mari Paul, which is the southeastern corner of Ukraine. The southeastern corner of Ukraine is right within this kind of Russian separatist area. It's where a lot of the fighting is happening. It's an area that Russia really, really wants. It's a port city, so a question that I think is necessary for us is why does the American regime or the people that run our government? Why are they all of a sudden so comfortable with associating with Nazis? Now I'm not calling zelensky Nazi. He's a grandchild of Holocaust survivors. Obviously not. Zelensky's Jewish. But zelensky is partnering in some capacity without right neo Nazis on the mainland of Ukraine. This is
Gatestone Institute: A Final Warning From Arabs to Biden
"There was a piece in the gatestone institute international policy council Website By Khalid Abu tome And it's really quite compelling It says in a message directed at the Biden administration and the other western powers involved in the Vienna negotiations This is with Iran Led by Russia on our behalf the Arab country said that Iran and its terrorist militias are continuing to create chaos and instability especially in Iraq Yemen and Lebanon The Arabs including the Arab League are telling the Biden administration that in their view is not only Iran that threatens their security but also its terrorist proxies Including Hamas the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen The Arabs are clearly worried about the financial and military aid that Iran is providing to the terrorist groups Any deal with Iran will further strengthen these groups and encourage them to step up their terrorist attacks The Arabs are also worried that when Iran obtains nuclear weapons they will sooner or later find their way into the hands of terrorist proxies And other terrorist groups including the Islamic State that's ISIS and Al-Qaeda
WHO and WHAT Is Standing in the Way of Peace in Ukraine?
"From newsweek dot com it says Ukrainian nationalist volunteers committing ISIS style war crimes is back from 2014. Cutting heads off and decapitating people. Now NBC News says that Putin is using false Nazi narrative justify Russian attack on Ukraine. Let's put that aside. I'm not here to say if Putin is right or wrong in that particular instance. What I am saying though is that when PBS can't went and went to Ukraine, they interviewed someone from this region, America's public broadcasting service published and promoted an interview with a renowned neo Nazi Ukrainian mayor. Without disclosing its politicians allegiance to World War II German leader Adolf Hitler and Ukraine's own Nazi sympathizer Stepan bandera. This is PBS that aired this. The interview comes just days after PBS published an article downplaying the links between neo Nazi politicians and the Ukrainian current political situation. On Thursday, March 4th, PBS hosted mayor Artem, some of top, and the country's northeast region. I'm reading from national pulse dot com. He says quote, my weapon is American and I feel like our occupiers will be pleased that we are killing them with American weapons. Now, it is not an exaggeration that these are legitimate Nazis. In fact, the PBS interview summit posed with a bandera portrait behind him. Albeit blurred out by PBS and their attempts to obscure their work with Ukrainian neo Nazis. Now we warned against this the very same people that have told us to get involved and support some of these Ukrainian groups are the same people that told us that we had a support the Syrian rebel rebels and the Syrian rebels ended up being friends with ISIS.
We Need to Read What the Bad Guys Say
"Paul how significant this is another thing, so you know me. I have this background from Central Europe because of my parents, but I spent the last 20 years in the national security realm dealing with counter terrorism and what I did was I studied the bad guys Al-Qaeda ISIS. I read what they wrote and shockingly because nobody in the U.S. government actually read it. I taught that to our operators, our green berets, intelligence, analysts and the FBI. What does it say about strategic culture that people didn't even pay attention to the speech that Putin gave a week before the invasion, this pseudo history verbal diarrhea where he said, well, you know, Ukraine never been an independent country. It's Russian. It's always been Russian before the duchy of muscovy, the Vikings landed there who became the modern Rus people. Because that tells you what he's going to do and that tells you he's going to take the whole country. Why you are the guy who's written the books, especially dupes and now the devil and Karl Marx. It's not rocket science. It's not brain surgery. We need to read what the bad guys say, don't we? Yeah, we do. And in fact, somebody that I wrote a lot of books about Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan all the time actually red marks actually red Lennon actually. And this is funny because Reagan, of course, was portrayed by the left as an idiot, as somebody who didn't read. And Reagan would say all the time, he would protest, well, you know, I'm only quoting their own documents, which I've actually read. And I reminded right now, said quite a bit during this period about Reagan and the 1980s trying to block the construction of the Soviet Siberian gas pipeline. And there were two strands of it. One of the strands he tried to delay the construction of and the second one he tried to block the construction of altogether. And this was something that even Margaret Thatcher wasn't with him on. I mean, this is now declassified. We actually sabotaged the software and the electronics for that pipeline. That's exactly right. Yeah, sorry about the shameless plug. I wrote about this in my book, the crusader. And we sabotage it. It was an explosion that you can see from space.
Donald Trump on Afghanistan: The Greatest Disgrace in US History
"And we are honored to have my former boss with us here on our national radio show America first across the country. President Trump welcome back. Thank you very much Sebastian. Mister president, let's start at the beginning. How different was your approach to national security? There was no woke up under the U.S. Military when you were commander in chief, talk to our millions of lessons across the country about your plans for Afghanistan, the conditions based withdrawal and what we have witnessed the disaster we've witnessed in the last three weeks. Maybe the greatest, most embarrassing disaster we've ever witnessed in our country. The difference was almost first of all it was the opposite. It was the exact opposite. We knocked out ISIS. When I took in, when I took over, ISIS was all over the Middle East. We knocked out 100% of the ISIS caliphate. I noticed now they call it ISIS K so you'll explain that. But we knocked out 100% of the ISIS caliphate. We took out Al Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS. And you know what else and who else we took out? We took out plenty. And we were in total control in terms of Kabul and in terms of Afghanistan. They weren't even close to us. We were going to get people because I believe in getting at 21 years enough and we were like a police force over there and they've got to take care of themselves and as you know better than anybody at particular as soon as we leave, they would stop fighting. And they were fighting for a lot of money. They were among the highest paid soldiers in the world paid for by the American taxpayer. So that's exactly what happened. What we were going to do is get our citizens out, take out other people who deserve to be taken out. Then we're going to knock the hell out of the bases, but before we did that, we're going to take out all of our military equipment. I said down to the nails and the screws in the bolts. Everything out nice and easily. And then we take out the soldiers and probably blow up the bases because why should we give them to somebody else to use? So that was it. And Bagram, we were going to keep because bargara is near China and near Iran and also in Afghanistan. So it covered a lot of territory. So I would have kept that and it's a great area for exactly what it represents. So they spent billions and billions of dollars building it. That's the big Air Force Base. So I think the biggest in the world actually. So we would have kept that instead we fled like there was no reason for it. The soldiers come out last and the army, the military comes out last. After the people and after all of the $83 billion worth of the most highly sophisticated military equipment anywhere in the world, it is a disgrace what's taken
Biden: U.S. Military Raid in Syria Results in Death of ISIS Leader
"We had the ISIS raid that just happened. Let's play cut 55, Joe Biden taking credit for it saying last night operating on my orders. The United States military forces successfully removed a major tariff threat to the world play cut 55. Last night, operating in my orders, the United States military forces successfully moved in major terrorist threat to the world. The global leader of ISIS. Known as Haji Abdullah now, one of the main reasons why Biden is executing a lot of these foreign policy decisions right now is obviously trying to resurrect his abysmal poll numbers. And the consensus in The White House is not that he's actually doing a bad job. It's that Afghanistan was for whatever reason, the alleged turning point when things started to go awry. In The White House a lot of people say, yeah, that was really, you know, kind of where people had a misunderstanding of how great our administration actually is. This is also exactly why Joe Biden wants to mobilize troops to the Ukrainian Russian border. You see Joe Biden thinks he can get moderates and people on the center right to think more highly of him if he's going to try to quote unquote put wins on the board for foreign intervention. Play cut 50. The current situation demands that we reinforce the deterrent and defensive posture on NATO's eastern Flank. President Biden has been clear that the United States will respond to the growing threat to Europe's security and stability. Our commitment to NATO article 5 and collective defense remains ironclad. As part of this commitment and to be prepared for a range of contingencies, the United States will soon move additional forces to Romania, Poland and Germany. So you're starting to see a lot of activity overseas, and it's by no mistake. This is all by design. You know, I'm glad to see the leader of ISIS taken out obviously. I'm not glad to see the escalation of troops in the eastern theater. But it's all trying to distract from what is happening domestically, which is a rise in crime, drug overdoses, suicides, incredibly weak economic figures, half a million people, displaced from the job market, otherwise that would not. A total failure when it came to allowing early interventions when it comes to treatment to the COVID-19 virus or the Fauci virus as we'd call it, and so when you look at what's happening overseas, you could call it a wag the dog effect. Here's the big
Islamic State leader killed during US raid in Syria
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ISIS Leader Dies During U.S. Special Forces Raid in Syria
"Who you are breaking news until hours ago. Abu Ibrahim Al Hashemi Al karoshi was the head of ISIS. He's dead. You have special forces striking and Idlib Syria, a place that's about 300 miles from Jerusalem. So it's a lot closer to Michael Oren's land than to ours, although I think Michael Lawrence and the U.S. today, former ambassador from Israel to the United States, doctor Michael oran, good morning, doctor Aaron. What's this headline mean to you? It's always welcome news with a leader of ISIS or Al-Qaeda or Hamas or Hezbollah gets to pass out of this world. I just was never particularly due to the major threat by Israel. You should know Hugh. The ISIS from our perspective was several thousand men mostly with light arms and machine guns on the backs of trucks. Our biggest threat of his bola was a 150,000 rockets pointed at our city. That's a major threat. But that doesn't mean we're anyway not relieved to see one of the major commanders of ISIS eliminated.
Dr. Fauci Used COVID Lockdowns to Get Rid of Trump
"So I will say that foushee did this deliberately and also we had the backing of Democratic Party because what other way were they going to get with Donald Trump without using COVID and lockdowns as an excuse? That's how they did it. I'm telling you, I said it, I said it all year. I said it all through 2020. If this doesn't play out better, they're gonna use COVID as they in any way they can to get Trump out of office. And now the countryside is buyers remorse. Buyers remorse, my gosh, can these polls I've never seen pulls this bad? I mean, Biden is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in American history. The guy is the most unpopular president we've ever had. And now he's rushing to the microphones to brag about taking out an ISIS leader. And I'm glad we got the ISIS leader, but what's happened in this country is beyond shameful.
Florida man gets 16 years for spreading terrorist propaganda
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Why Joe Kent Felt Called to Run for Congress in Washington State
"If you live in Washington support this man Joe can't for Congress dot com that's Joe can't for Congress dot com 20 years serving this nation also his wife Shannon paid the ultimate price in Syria killed by the ISIS jihadists explain to us for millions of listeners across the nation. Why you've decided to not just have the quiet life you've bled enough for this nation? Why are you serving it again as a civilian Joe? You know, really, that's what I intended to do after my late wife was killed by resigned from government service and wanted to just come back here to home to the Pacific Northwest to raise my kids. But the way that the last election was stolen the way that the left weaponized all the violence of 2020 using antifa and BLM, I realized that our country was at war. It was just a war back here at home, and everything that I've seen since Biden was installed has really pointed to the fact that we are almost under totalitarian control and seeing how Republicans will not fight most Republicans or the rhinos will not fight. These are the same people that Thornton president Trump for his entire four years that really led to my wife being left in Syria after Trump tried to get us out. These people will not defend us. So when my representative Jamie hurry about their voted for the impeachment of president Trump, I knew that it wasn't a matter of, hey, is this the best thing for me to do right now? It was a matter of I'm being called to serve again to go and fight because this isn't politics as normal. We are at war and we need to be going to war against the left and against the rhinos.
Kash Patel: 'We're Seeing the Politicization of the National Security Apparatus of the U.S.'
"Our government in a variety of different roles. You were a partner with Devin Nunes in uncovering and masking. And later, I want to ask you about our friend Durham and how that entire project is progressing in your opinion. But I just want to ask you kind of more broadly, can you talk about the threats that the United States security state, the whole security apparatus poses against either conservative Americans or Christian Americans or what would be considered disagreeable political opinions and tie that together with what you uncovered in the Russia investigation with Donald Trump and how they entrap Donald Trump and they use the fisa court surveillance. Talk a little bit about that. Yeah, that's a great question. Look, it's all interconnected as you were alluding to right there. Basically, the sum and substance is what we are seeing as the politicization of the national security apparatus in the United States. The one apparatus that is supposed to be a political. The one apparatus from Donald Trump came in and said to me, when I was running his counter terrorism programs or was his deputy director of national intelligence or later over at DoD, was this is what we're doing. We're going to end the forever wars. We're going to wipe out Al-Qaeda senior leadership. We're going to kill the emirs of ISIS. Take out Soleimani, return American hostages, seal our southern border, prohibit Chinese fentanyl and opioids from pouring in and killing our youth. These are things that are apolitical and that you would think all Americans would want especially Americans who have children would want for their youth. And when Donald Trump got elected, that narrative got blown up. And it started with the Russia gate narrative, which I was fortunate enough to be the chief investigator on for chairman Nunes who wrote the Nunes memo. We wrote a report. We basically showed the largest criminal enterprise perpetuated by the Democratic Party and the Hillary Clinton campaign and intentionally faulty actors and Andrew mccabe and James Comey and clapper over in the FBI and IC to go to an intelligence court and say lying to an intelligence court just to surveil their opponent because they didn't like the guy. That trend,
Ben Ferguson: Democrats Will Take Away Your Children's Medical Rights
"And I want you to remember what happened after they tried to tell you that critical race theory wasn't actually being taught when we all know that Kirk ray Siri is actually being taught in our schools What do they do Well then there was a letter that was sent A letter that was sent for the Department of Justice out to everybody in America all these different people telling you that you need to start curating parents like they are domestic terrorists that they show up At school board meetings if they organize Facebook groups or they send blunt messages or call their elected officials or they yell at them or they're angry at them at school board meetings that they should be treated like they are a member of Al-Qaeda Or ISIS And then what happened We saw parents actually getting arrested And we saw the left say parents shouldn't have a right to decide what is taught to your children I'm sure they'll tell you that didn't happen either It did and we have the audio to prove it But it's interesting where we are now Just change the subject Get rid of critical race theory and I'm warning all parents and grandparents right now This is my warning If there's nothing else you remember from tonight from this show I want you to remember this what happened with critical race theory is nothing compared to what Democrats are about to do to parents They are moving forward to take away all of your medical rights of your children
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"A like another stack on top like the chinese like surveillance state just local. Likes so the win ubisoft. What game does ubisoft make rainbow. Shake all duty. A call of duty is activision or trailer. I think so enact. Division localize is a game for the chinese market. They're going to have to localize it to include. Like if you wanna play the game you have to sign up and you have to like put in yet to go through a real name verification process. So i i suppose you have to put a real name in there and has to be like cross-checked against i guess china's list of names right and if you happen to be under eighteen then evidently the game is supposed to lock you out playing and you can only play for one hour a day on friday saturday and sunday. Maybe that's not such a bad law. If you're a journey gaming you know Especially like pro gaming china's like you know competitive pro gaming is going to take major hit. Oh no obviously all the kids are the ones you know like. That's a huge. That's a huge national problem for china. They're not gaining or not gonna turn out as many pro gamers. Yeah i it's kind of like a small and i guess largely come knocking them than astor. The shortcuts masters starcraft. I mean it's that's the thing. I guess people were saying like there will. They're just gonna use their parents accounts or some shit like that. Which i guess is the workaround but this is more like a two fold thing. It's kind of geopolitical in the sense. That like there's a huge market in china and they're growing and now you know be the we're talking about forty five billion dollar A year market for video games And that's probably gonna plummet so that's interesting there's going to be like you know ripple effects rates just because it's hurting. The gaming industry doesn't mean it doesn't affect everyone like there are unintended consequences of of tanking stocks like that And so there's that one and then the other one is just just that this is kind of like a new information anew reflection on the chinese like surveillance state right. we're talking about like you know Social credit scores and facial recognition software. That knows you everywhere you go and knows everything that you do And now can't play video games if you're under eighteen So you know it's funny. There's another there is another chinese law that Effectively banned like tutoring these tutoring school Services the tutoring services and I forget the exact reason why they did do that. I think it may have been to deal with like some kids getting an unfair advantage. Ever get their exact reasons but they banned these school. These like Extra schools extracurricular shit. Yeah that's an all those stocks. Those companies did really well and all those stocks plummeted. They basically put them out of business but china has been making very bad decisions lately. As far as like mad financial ones yeah fi Dumb financial decisions. I don't know what's going on there as far as Who's making these decisions. And why. I feel like they're kind of sucking up to what they want to be the the Nationalistic type stuff rather than free and smart policies that will benefit their economy. While i beat two to tie this back to afghanistan. You know if they're going to be if these kids are going to be lacking on spiritual. Vm maybe they can make up for it with the regular opium that the taliban will sell to them after they take full control. Who knows yeah going back to just regular old opium bregger old opium all right..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"I couldn't figure out if that is still ineffective or not So jury's out on that one but Basically the the council of representatives in in ethiopia also imposed state a state of emergency in tigray Which basically isolated from the rest of ethiopia But in case you were feeling bad for t- gray and the tegray ins It's kinda complicated So the ethiopian. Government has labelled them a terror organization the teepee eleven least specifically. And you know the thing about this. Is that like a lot of the countries that we have been talking about like afghanistan as an example or pakistan is also an extremely diverse nation. And they've basically kept it together for decades under a kind of coalition that's made up of four major ethnic based parties is called ethnic federalism. Exactly exactly so it's it's The ethiopian people's revolutionary democratic front or the e. p. r. d. f. I'm not going to say that again. It's ethnic federalism is the the word for what they're doing over there and the thing that you need to know is that the tps left the folks in the tigray region they've They basically held power for decades Since they took power you know In ninety one despite having a small population relative to the other three ethnic-based parties. Yeah yeah and. I'll ask them so like not grayer like six percent of the population then the aroma and then the amora an somalis are that the high the largest population is the aroma. And the horrible ours. I don't know who i think. The aroma are a little bit bigger. yeah we we go through all the numbers and things like that in the other episode lines but they're so ethiopia there's basically these four political parties that That are that are completely on ethnic lines. So there's the t. P. l. f. Who are who were the dominant force. Were a really long time. They're the ones who toppled the communist government they're communist dictator back in nineteen ninety-one price. Oh day lead. The coalition the lead the coalition and essentially liberated ethiopia from him. You know they're communist dictator Like colonel ming mean gustav or something like that. I don't remember having colonel..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"I mean yeah. That's a really good question. And it seems like it like their backers are who's propping him up seems to switch a couple times too so it's a little complicated it's It's very complicated. The way that i kind of always seen it is that these really violent militant groups at take power and ceased power. They start fighting each other because they're kind of like rival drug cartels try to control their territory But i think goes deeper than just that. I think a lot of it is just they know where their money comes from right and within those ranks. No there's there's people kind of directing them to do to do things so let me try like boil it down to a couple of sentences on what i think is k. Is now that you've told nail about it and you can correct me where i'm wrong. So there they start off as these just regular people in that correspond area. Stretching across the different states the euro talk that's afghantistan and pakistan and other places and The pakistani government gets all spooked about things like bangladesh. Said they start creating all these madrid sassi's but then they go and attack them for some reason and then those people flee to afghanistan as refugees kind of and then those people actually ended up being not all refugees but like also some hardliner crazy people and they formed their own. Little group called isis k. They put up the flags and all that other stuff and and now they're kind of like welcomed by the afghan people who were there because they re the afghan people that were there didn't like the taliban but then but then they became their isis. And they do crazy shit. So i guess they don't like them anymore and now the taliban is fighting them because also you know these guys are like on their turf so to speak my getting the basics of this right there are a lot of pakistani refugees.
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"Sources claimed expected their proteges to fight against the pakistani government it also sole role for them to fight or at least stand as a bulwark against the afghan taliban. See fall innis. Yeah they're kind of trying to play the play the same group the other way. I was reading your favorite publication mood of alabama. Okay and they were saying well you know. the ss basically the cia. So since the end. Es had a relationship with these hardliners before they must be responsible for the the bombing during the evacuation. Leave it up to moon of alabama to tied together points. That shouldn't be tied. I mean. I mean hey i mean at a very confident. That's not true. Well out of every hundred things that they say about one of them turns out to be right so maybe this one might be that one who knows they say some pretty weird shit though so This goes on to say how You know split started to emerge in ranks. t t p Following their leader's death and these militants they ended up turning to their local warlords But all right. I'm gonna read again. The chain of command with a t t p center as well as relations with local afghan taliban were strained by the increasingly predatory behavior of these militants to regularly engage in money extortion kidnappings in ransom taking charting and both afghans and pakistanis. They was messages to actual or presumed bridge sympathizers of the afghan taliban and of the t. t. p. in pakistan pakistani and afghan house asking them for huge amounts of money if the recipients failed to heed that requests they'll be threatened. I'm not gonna read the entire report but there's this huge section on like you know they were just engaging in a lot of extortion criminal activity so layer doing things like setting up checkpoints kidnapping people All the rancid bunny like all this really just kinda thuggish brutish thought that was going on in afghanistan for sounds like everything madhur tells about in the last yasser yeah they also appear to be prepping preparing for a major battle transporting huge shipments of weapons from thiru valley in the khyber khyber agency with unprecedented quantity and frequency this coincided with a new wave of Families from arriving from the khyber agency and north wasserstein in part this was triggered by the pakistani army operation. Khyber one which started in october two thousand fourteen in a subsequent operation khyber to which started in march..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"Yeah it's it's very similar is group. That's kind of split between these borders drawn by the british fucking british. Yeah so. The pakistani government believes that the taliban ideology it emphasizes islam over pashtoon identity. So that's why they support the taliban because they rather have a cohesive state that is that that doesn't not ethnocentric. It's not ethno state more doesn't have like these ethnic movements because now i mean even now the taliban. They're kind of different than they were. Before they're not as lake chauvinistic about being pashtoons like before back in the ninety s you know. Most taliban were passions gray. The taliban was caught was the the political representation for the plurality pashtoon population. Now that there's like a lot of different ethnic groups that are allowed to be in the taliban they're morally islamists were didn't that was their strategy. You know it was. They made it a more pan islamic movement rather than a No ethnic passionate movement live just made it more inclusive and we were speaking in that. Hope right about this yesterday. Progressive of them led to them getting more support with throughout the country. Let's just put it that way. Now on the flip side the pakistani government while they support the afghan taliban they don't support the pakistani taliban because it's a threat to their government is a threat to their benevolent violence. You know they don't want that movement in their state in fact one of the first things. That the pakistanis did after the taliban recently took the country is that they went over to the taliban and they gave them a list of members of the pakistani taliban. The t. t. p. So they gave him this list of members and it gave it to the to the afghan taliban now the new government of afghanistan and they said hey. Here's a list of guys we want you to take out. And you know they may even be holding that or there had before they officially recognized the taliban because they haven't yet or they or they're waiting for china. I think. I think a lot of countries are waiting to see what china does before officially saying oh yeah recognizes state right so a lot of countries ner are weird positions But going back to this report this report goes on to say that. The afghan government support there was an open secret and it goes on to say in an off the record. Conversations with the a n government officials have verified this type of relation between segments of the pakistani militants and the n. d. s. as have pro governmental tribal elders and politicians in jalalabad. The is the was the afghan Cia their intelligence group the s. d..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"The team working on this mission is jokingly known as the taliban air force as negotiators close in on their deal in doha officers. Repurpose tools owned against the taliban reaper. Drones ended intelligence complex with nearly two decades of practice spying on afghan guerrillas unwilling to communicate directly with the taliban commanders the task force work to divine where in-house old foes needed help by listening to their communications Taliban units on the ground appeared willing to take the help waiting to assault islamic state positions until they heard and saw the explosions of bombs and health. Eire's say see where this has gone. Yeah so there's this kind of not talking to each other but they're definitely were during sink their sinked up in a both both parties. Know exactly what's going on. It's kinda like when to animals like you know that fart necessarily like the same and you know the like one of the animals does a thing in the other animals like are not gonna eat you. Because i know that you're gonna help me eat something else and they kinda like work together. But they can't obviously talk to each other you know it's like now those Those fish that like clean other fish. Or like the yeah. Exactly it's the you know the little sucky things go in the whale sharks. Yeah that's what i was talking about. Yeah we're like the cnn enemies and the clown fish. There's a lot of stuff in the that. does this stuff all right. The cone our operations may offer a glimpse of what lies ahead for the united states in afghanistan. The outsourcing of what has been a core us military mission fighting the islamic state and al qaeda conan veterans. I spoke with seen realistic about the calculus seeing this as necessary to keeping. Us troops out of harm's way. I don't think americans should be on the ground and firefight but taliban and we need somebody fighting isis. So i don't see a problem with it. That doesn't mean i wanna break bread with them said jason dempsey a retired army. Lieutenant colonel. Who fought in cone are in two thousand nine emotionally. It's hard partly because we spent nearly twenty years conflating al qaeda the taliban but the cow taliban strike the united states on nine eleven. Okay so it's a little bit of a a little bit of backtracking year. Right they're like. Hey hey we were. We're only helping the taliban because we're there helping us kill isis and we really hate isis. And a don't don't worry about that whole twenty years ago. We were saying that al qaeda and the taliban were the same thing that that was a thing. The here's the thing about this isis k group. I don't really know how much of the information about. These guys is really reliable. No they were founded sometime between two thousand fourteen in two thousand fifteen by disaffected pakistani taliban so some pakistani taliban commanders broke away from the t t p after the..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"The it's part of a healthy balanced breakfast for the sugary frosted brand devices. Yeah right but on the interwebs as soon as the word isis k. Turned up in the mainstream. A lot of people are like. Yeah right give me a break. This sounds like a bunch of bullshit like mice as as time. there's a new variant of isis. Now they're just making up variants vices out of the two k. there's not even isis. Abcd j h i j. There's not even an isis j. It's funny that you have to do that. Some letters not to go too crazy on tangent. isis k. It is a real thing. And i really. Don't blame people for reacting like this. Because i think the same reaction if i hadn't read about them before so the k. Stands for course on so course on is a historical term for a region that includes central asia so present-day iran afghanistan pakistan and They are pretty much a relatively small and obscure off shoot of the islamic state of iraq syria. So they're not the same guys as the people just if they're not the same guys. Why are they still isis. Though should it be. Like i don't know ice is just as well. Isis is kind of our word for them. But they're they're not the same guys. Obviously us guys in iraq syria. They're not nearly as successful as they were. Isis in iraq and syria. They successfully created a caliph. It for a while. This group has done no such thing so and they're much smaller as well. So i mean the level of people or the amount of people that i read every single source seems to have a different estimate. But we're talking about like two thousand three thousand four thousand maybe five thousand people max. It's not some looming hord but at the same time they are dangerous terrorist group. They take killed. I think at this point is what one hundred seventy people including you know. Thirteen twelve marines in one navy personnel. They slaughtered viciously a lot of people In that attack they are violent and you know they are suicide bombing nut shops now. I'll be the first one to really mitt. I haven't really known about them for that long. They haven't really been on my radar. Be a phony liar. If i said they were i learned about them last year. And what got me thinking about them. Was this washington post article that was published in october of last year. And it's titled our secret. Talal bent air force inside the clandestine. Us campaign to help our longtime enemy defeat isis and articles. All about how. The us was acting as a talibans air force. So i have it. I had some quotes pulled up. I'm gonna go through some of it. And i think you'll find some of this interesting the. Us military has been quietly helping the taliban to weaken the islamic state and its kohner nor stronghold with the taliban fighting the islamic state and are a peace deals always going to require at least tacit us towel and taliban cooperation against their mutual foe in march days after us diplomats and taliban representatives inked a withdrawal deal. Doha general frank. Mackenzie the top us commander for afghanistan and the middle east told the house armed services committee that the taliban had received very limited support from us total air quotes on the very limited support us right. Yeah very limited support from us. He declined to elaborate and the form that support took has not been publicly revealed but inside jay sock..
"isis" Discussed on Bro History
"And he's like hey is everybody. Okay and mike. Yeah why what do you mean. He's like the fucking storm and then my other friend posted this video of his street. And it's just like this fucking river of water like covering the street. And i grew up in that area and and you know i can tell immediately how bad it was and then my brother stetson starts enemy some pictures literally. He lives near like one of those water runoff. Where the rain water runs off a little canal or dyke or whatever they call them and that thing totally over flooded where the water level was above like standard sedan. Car level like there was just the very tip of a car. You can see his car. His wife's car got swept away. It's like gone. it was. They found it like a block and a half away Which was nuts. Totally told his basements totally flooded but they had a lot of their stuff in in In like plastic buckets and stuff like that and Yeah i mean even. My mom was text me today this morning. She was like. I was trying to get the work and like literally. Everything's a river. She can even go to work Super wild and meanwhile i'm sitting here none-the-wiser not even realizing that that like all those catastrophes happening which is is crazy. I feel pretty emblematic of the last year. That i've spent in this apartment building which basically sucks me into what's going on in the outside world. Well that was basically me during hurricane. Sandy yep me too letter that one also so hurricane sandy. I had just moved to manhattan just out of college and I lived in the upper side. The upper east side was like the only place that was really spared major damage in the city or in the new york area of the upper side. And there's some other neighborhoods in manhattan. That really didn't get hit too hard. But it was quite a pleasurable week off. And i feel really bad about saying that because i know a lot of people i mean. There's a lot of people who passed away sat right and tragically but a lot of my friends. They were living in shit because they were you know. Most of my friends are from block island and lost power for a couple of weeks. There were standing in line at starbucks charge. Their phones people were eating and killing each other over gas. Just it was just totally crazy. People with each other over gas we survived. So that's all that matters. Were able to podcast and other day. We're able to podcast another day so I guess There's a lot to talk about today. First and foremost the response that we got from last episode with matthew. Hoh has been excellent. If you guys haven't listened to that episode yet go back and listen to it because it's really important. I guess they continue on the topic of afghanistan which we largely spoke about the The failures in the systemic lying in the national security state. You know everyone was lying about it. But i guess there's so much skepticism that's going on right now that no one really wants to take anything at face value so isis k. Here we you heard that word. Yep here we go isis k. It sounds kind of like a new co variant or serial. Actually i did think cereal. The first time. I heard it like ice. Special take came to margaret k this..
"isis" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Power in afghanistan so this is a tricky question in afghanistan itself. Because you'll have groups like the taliban but they i'll tell what are composed of networks. So you'll have factions within the taliban you have individual commanders And as we saw when the taliban gain power in the nineties lost power after the us invasion two thousand one and then gain power again is lots of commanders will switch sides So right now. The taliban are quite strong They've captured a bunch of us equipment. There was a huge prestige boost. They have all the support from pakistan So they're going to be a very strong force in afghanistan and afghanistan will probably know more stability than is known for a year is because the core of the civil war that's going to diminish but the taliban arkan have complete control of the country Parts of it are simply very remote. So geography is kind of an enemy and there'll be areas that The locals oppose the taliban enough to fight effectively. There may be foreign governments. And we don't know this yet but there may be some like the united states that actually support opposition to the taliban so there are going to be a lot of challenges that hoban face but that said They were pretty effective in the nineties and consolidating troll and expect them to consolidate control over much of the country within the next year reasonably efficiently. So there there is some chance for some sort of stability in afghanistan though it sounds like it does look like that stability will come from whatever the taliban plans to do. I think that's exactly right. So it'll be stability with a effectively. Tyrannical government and the good news for afghans is that the death and misery of civil war will will diminish and again. I think you'll continue in parts of the country but we'll be at a much lower level but it comes at an extremely steep price and allow the progress. We've seen afghanistan. The last years is going to go away. We're almost exactly two weeks out from the twenty year anniversary of nine eleven. I know you served on the nine eleven commission. Do you feel like the united states is safer after two wars. Hundreds of thousands dead and trillion spent this war on terror. I want to answer your question. Mary carefully so i feel the. Us homeland is definitely safer now than it was right before. Nine eleven We have better home on defense. There's better global intelligence cooperation their efforts to go after bake havens wherever they might appear on an all that has kept the american homeland safer however there parts of the world and the middle east is a big example where you saw these massive civil wars development. They developed for lots of reasons but the region self is stabilized and that's going to create kind of persistent problems that allow these groups some of which are linked to al qaeda some of which are linked isis and allows them to persist. So i would say where you stand on. This very much depends on where you live. And if you're an american living in the us homeland i think the risk is diminished again. Not gone but diminished.
"isis" Discussed on Today, Explained
"More with dan. In a minute thanks to. At.
"isis" Discussed on Today, Explained
"The name implies. This is a branch of the islamic state..
"isis" Discussed on WSJ What's News
"The taliban seized control of afghanistan last week after the us military began its planned withdrawal from the country. The group has long fought american coalition forces in afghanistan. But it's also been fighting a parallel war against the afghan arm of islamic state. The local offshoot known as isis k. has reportedly claimed responsibility for the deadly suicide bombing at kabul's airport and the us has vowed to retaliate allen. Collison of the wall street journal has covered the hidden war between the taliban and isis and he joins us from kiev allen. Thanks for being with us. thanks for having. There's a lot of fear not just in afghanistan but around the world about what the taliban takeover means for afghan citizens and for global security but the taliban and the islamic state are sworn enemies. Talk about the relationship between the taliban al qaeda and isis going back to the nineteen ninety s. The islamic state wasn't around in the nineteen nineties yet. The only two groups of importance in afghanistan back then were the taliban and al qaeda taliban had taken control of afghanistan in the nineties after civil war and then al qaeda us the chaos and the vacuum there to set up camp and start training camps and basically turn into a terrorist training ground. the taliban were somewhat ambivalent about al qaeda's presence there from the beginning they did have strains in the relationship but there were also quite defensive about being told what to do by the outside world and so when al-qaeda misbehaved and we bombed afghanistan that sort of seemed to strengthen ties between them after september eleventh When we demanded that they give up bin laden and they wouldn't our invasion of course toppled the taliban And created more problems between the taliban and al qaeda but in some ways they strengthen their relationship because they had a common enemy and they were fighting the united states and over over the course of twenty years. You could say that. They've almost
"isis" Discussed on Post Reports
"That line and willing to despite knowing it was very real continued to search people. I mean for me. it's there's nuance here where you can look at it and say man. This is awful and at the same time. Look at it and say man. These people continue to do this kind of work knowing how ugly messy can get. Dan lamothe covers the us military. Lena muhammed produced the story after the break. We'll hear from an afghan journalist. Who left afghanistan right before the taliban took over. We'll be right back..
"isis" Discussed on Post Reports
"Well as heartbroken. He acknowledged how big of an undertaking. This hold. accusation has been that the threat was known that can people continue to do their jobs. Anyway the president has promised that they will go after this group. Those who carried out this attack as well as anyone who wishes america harm. No this we will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down to make you pay. I'll defend our interests in our people with every measure at my command. The challenge will be. What can they feasibly do without sort of the big footprint of us forces that we've had in afghanistan over the years. I think the united states is going to be caught here in between what they might wanna do and what they can feasibly do without throwing a lot of forces at the problem. Mr president there had not been a us. Servicemember killed in combat in afghanistan. Since february of twenty twenty. You set a deadline. You pulled troops out you send troops back in and out. Twelve marines are dead. You said the buck stops with you. Do you bear any responsibility for the way that things have unfolded in the last two weeks. I bear responsibility for fundamentally all this happened of late. But here's the deal you know. I wish you one day say these things you know as well as i do that a former president made a deal with the taliban we get all american forces out of afghanistan by may one in return. The commitment was made. That was a year before it returned. He was given a commitment. If the taliban would continue to attack others but would not attack any american forces. Remember that being serious one thing that did strike me as there. Was this long pause. Where president biden was asked a question and kind of broad his two hands up to his face and and look down and it almost seemed like the room around him. Faded for a second That he was sort of considering what to say and do how to respond to. Do you think that people have any mccain the way of things that happened. I think they have an issue that people are like to get hurt. Some as we've seen got killed and that it is messy. I mean i'm not in his head but it but it seemed to me that that was that was a moment where the weight of the job becomes pretty clear. The i'm sure the way. The job was very clear throughout the day. But in that moment especially at i it seemed at least evident to the outsider. So then what does this attack mean for. The rest of the evacuations that need to happen before august thirty first i think the question for me there is. How do you define who sort of made the cut there. As thursday were apparently about five thousand evacuees left in the airport. Those people that have already been screened already. Been cleared and the expectation is the majority of those people flow out in the next day or two The second question though is what do you do with some of those afghans who have assisted us over. The years who's package of information was not yet completed not yet fully approved. Are they left on the outside looking in and the expectation is i think certainly some of them will be but in terms of the sort of the big evacuation effort as it has looked over the last few weeks. That's basically all but all over the next few days Kind of moving into august. Thirty first are mostly going to be Starting to pack up starting to Shrink down that presence Which takes a lot of time And it's gonna take several days for the us military alone to move from more than five thousand troops to down three to one thousand and every time you do that you increase the threat on those left because there's just not as many people left to kind of hold the line. Hold the perimeter. Make sure everybody's safe. I think the irony here that is apparent to many americans and certainly pointed out to biden on thursday is that he has said over and over again. One of the primary goals of leaving afghanistan leaving afghanistan now is to preserve the lives of members of the military and to stop having americans dying in a war that we maybe don't have a stake in anymore and it does seem like if that was the goal. Then this attack has made that goal failure. I think by that metric Yeah i think something. He's gonna have to wrestle with for a while. I would say that as far as strictly through the lens of what we're doing here We don't necessarily have big interests in the country writ large anymore it seems like. There's pretty broad. bipartisan agreement. On that but we do have a massive stake in this evacuation and getting out as many people as we can. And that's why we were willing to send a nation six thousand people back in In uniform and that's why those marines and soldiers were willing to hold.
"isis" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill
"Us us-backed syrian rebels. The islamic state's execution videos had one struck fear in us citizens but now isis fighters were on the run fleeing small patches of syria that isis still control russell was running to. I didn't realize it back then. But as i look back on it now i think russell knew he was going to die. He didn't wanna die mystery. I wanted to To explain something here. I'm very sad about about things that happened. You know but at the same time Have to be honest about About the way the things things happened you know and We are here communicating because we have righteous goals for the both of us. So we have to be honest. We have to say the truth. You know I can't begin to tell you russell story and the questions that surrounded him without first telling you about samuel's mccosh. Sammy was a slender young man. Who came to the united states. When he was thirteen years old he and his family had fled the war in kosovo and settled in florida. Sammy suffered from schizo affective disorder. Meaning that he struggled to separate fantasy from reality in an effort to treat disease. Sammy turned to islam into russell who became his religious mentor. following a chance encounter at a mosque in december. Two thousand nine. You have a prepaid call..
"isis" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"I keep going back to it but you really. It's it's just the story of of prevention of widespread recruitment in the us My colleagues in civil liberties and civil rights organizations will say that is way too broad of a statute it allows for way too much freedom for law enforcement to police extreme thoughts but just from a purely practical standpoint. it is quite effective sexually. I think it might be interesting. Walkers through a bit how the material support statute works and how it plays into fbi investigation. So what is what is the line between say you know first amendment protected speech and something that would plausibly put you over the line into material support land. And how does the fbi navigate that line and use that line to their advantage. When doing these investigations yes. So there's the the bible. The fbi was the dialogue. Great the domestic investigations oversight guide. Which gives you a run down exactly how you can open up. A an assessment or preliminary investigation are fulfilled investigation When it comes to terrorist investigations and when the file for and things like that. So the material support clause it has included action right so it's not one thing to talk about. How great isis on twitter. That's not enough to open a product to open up. Investigation has to be an overt action and that over action is pretty broad. But it can be. I you know bought a ticket To go go turkey. That's my overt action. I transferred fifty dollars through western union. To guy in raka. that's the overt action and so once that once that happens. All bets are off when it comes to rest. They tended to prioritize things by connections. So if gentlemen from indiana which just spouting her mouth off about. How great isis. That really didn't rise to the level of fulfilled investigation but if that individual westbound this mouth Grade isis is also deeming jinadu sane or macedonia a number of other people. That's when they start. Start jumping in. I think one thing that sometimes gets overlooked. So how many material support cases has the government lost in the united states of handful. Not even a ten So the the most famous case in the isis cases would be omar mateen's wife was charged with terrorism related activities department. Just argued that she helped. Omar stakeout pulse nightclub ultimately. Jerry appears found that to be not not true and she was acquitted but doj generally batting a thousand now. So they'll say yeah we're batting a thousand but look at the cases we don't bring up. You've got thousand active investigations. We only charge two hundred people. You do the math. We're only bring the cases that are that are ready to win. There is some some truth in that. But i think you know the deck is set. Pretty good most of our folks. The americans tended to plead out before they went to trial. They looked at the stats and said you know. It's probably better to flip and and admit to guilt and then hope for lesser sentence but it just depended on the case the other thing i think to look at it is not just the materials tariff clause but also the false statements the fbi. I mean that was. That was the thing that the. Fbi constantly hung their hat on when they didn't have enough of a case to build for a twenty year sentence on charge individual for false statements. The fbi so a great case of that would be like say could amati from South carolina him. His father and his brother go join go or syria. They join up without newsra on nausea in raka isis takes over the town and Our guy becomes the go between between isis announced in israel when the few cases of an american joint to foreign terrorist organizations. He gets back to the states after after some time over there. He gets stuck the airport when he lands and the fbi agent says. Hey listen save you know. My name's joe fbi. And i. i have some questions for you. Is it true that you ran the facebook page for newsra. So it says no not definitely didn't do that no way right so automatically you now got him for false. Dame's the fbi. Because you've got the wiretaps of of him posting on facebook. And so that is with tears. Enhancement eight years until you saw the fbi. Lean on that quite a bit. Now there's a there's an end to that tale that i think is important. Which is most of these guys are getting out. They got arrested for false statements at this point know. We're five years into to isis of arrest in so a lot of these cases which i think the fbi would say we were very concerned about but we had to do something so they wouldn't commit an attack there now staring at at a release date very soon and so the hot to figure out that actually means Related to that one thing. That is interesting about the. Us versus europe is the relative length of prison sentences for people accused of links to isis. So talk a little bit about how sentences in the us work relative to europe. Because i do think that's one important difference between how things work here verses over the pond. it's orders of magnitude longer. You know the average prison sentence for a typical deer paean case would be two to five years. If you're lucky. In the early cases the average presents an isis supporter in america is something north of twelve years and so we've had cases of people getting life in prison for attempted plot. And so it means that you know from the that's great. You put him away the deal with the problem anymore for my perspective you know. I'm not sure that solves the issue right. So you know we've been arresting and charging and sentencing join organizations since before nine eleven But let's just go for nine eleven right if it's been twenty years since then in the average presents his twelve he you know you do. The math. And a lot of these individuals are getting out And we haven't set up a system in the bureau of prisons to do some level of deportation or disengagement or reforming for lack of a better word. We also have set up a system for probation services to probation for isis supporters. All over the map right. So you've got judges that will send someone to six years for false statements the fbi and then tack on a life probation of amino use of electronics of lives whereas another case. Still get twenty years of a sentence but you know probation on the back end. It's just there's no rhyme or reason to how judges on determine the sentence the argue that they're looking at sentencing guidelines and examples from the past. But when you look at it just it seems to be all over the map a great example that would be you know yesterday. Sam l. johnny. Who is a woman from indiana who traveled to syria with her husband and her young kids held up a easy..
"isis" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Here's how you should drop the video on telegram to us when you're done and what you're done that maybe we can talk about you. Join the islamic state and so we had something north of six deadly attacks in the us. A number of those people were tied to this legion of doom. In in syria plan holding these americans in fact once dod and the fbi connected together and started systematically killing these people taking them off the battlefield. We saw the number of plots in the us dramatically. Drop so that in ways that makes sense right that a large relatively large number of the attacks and attempted attacks in. Us had to do with these guys. But what about the ones. That didn't so how about the people who didn't have any sort of interaction with this type of extensive interaction with people in iraq and syria. What what are some general trends that you notice that to remove these people from passive interest to active attack planning execution. First of all intended to be unsophisticated a tax so a gentleman in ohio drove his car through university and injured a number of people a attack in new york similar vehicular attack in new york they tend to be not well coordinated attacks one off events a knifing the universe at the mall of america in minnesota for example it usually the trigger usually. Is that most of these. If not all of the cases of of a deadly attack in the us it occurred after an fbi investigation. Harry started so these individuals knew they were under investigation maybe. Fbi decided to close the case or or continue on but they knew there are under investigation so they knew they couldn't travel into. They focused their way inwards. Now the outlier on this talk to escape a tax. Would omar mateen the gentleman who killed on dozens of people at the pulse nightclub a few years ago. That was an individual who staked out his attack plan. Had a number of guns in planet out pretty Systematically and he did it obviously for a call for isis in the nine nine. One one call announces. He's doing it because dod killed nicest member And that he had had been a big fan of but most of these attacks tend to be relatively unsophisticated deadly but good. And how does that compare to the the world of al qaeda attacks. it's similar to to homegrown terrorist attacks or inspired by al qaeda. But i think the the contrast here would be attacks in europe so number of attacks in europe were coordinated and executed by returning foreign fighters individuals. Who spent time in syria iraq contrast that with the us where we've had something like twenty four individuals come back from their time in syria and iraq most those individuals come back disillusioned disenchanted. Only one of those individuals came back with express plan to commit an attack here the homeland so you mentioned this a bit earlier but there are real differences in the way that isis operates in the us and in europe. I wonder if you could just out of bit more so you had you had talked about how in particular in europe you find real concentrated clusters of people in specific neighborhoods in which you can find relatively high numbers of isis sympathetic people in the us. That just doesn't really exist so talk a bit more about that. And how that sort of shapes the different ways that these that isis has evolved in america versus in europe. That that's important point. I think when you look at europe the perfect example for uk Which had dozens of members go join on the islamic state and you had handouts and leaflets and people setting up tables on the streets talking about how great the caliphate was. Now was never explicitly calgary. Isis was but it was the general idea of a caliphate was was pretty good for them and i think that's the takeaway from the book is. You're more likely join nation if your best friend joins tear station in contrast to what that with the us nobody's handing out leaflets at times square about how great the islamic state is we. Just don't have that network here. I hearken back to what i talked about before that's because our law enforcement approach is much more aggressive than our european counterparts. We can't discount them for terrorism clause so that allows for the fbi interject themselves in the process so much sooner than than anybody else in the western world so the idea of material sports so providing yourself to join isis. that's Enough arrest in twenty years in. So you drive to o'hare airport. You're getting picked up pretty quickly whereas in the early days of isis traveled to syria and iraq wasn't inherently crime in europe. Right she had numbers of five thousand folks who traveled over there contrast to that to the. Us where he had something about three hundred people who attempted to or or did travel to syria iraq. Relatively small numbers. Now there's also the no fly list so that makes things a little bit more difficult for american jihadist and we also can't discount geographical location right. It's a little bit harder to get on a plane to turkey and cross the border than it is when you're in europe and so when you reading book spoken and even when we're having this conversation the part of the us government that comes up time and time again is the fbi so just talk about. Just how big of a role. The fbi and federal criminal law in general particularly the material support statute plays in countering homegrown extremism in the us ms elephant in the room. You know the fbi had active investigations in all fifty states of static active investigations. They also had a number of individuals Trolling online looking for supporters. And so time and time again. We look at a rest in america. You realize an individual and american will reach out to a nicest supporter give pretty far along in the process and then fast forward when arrested in that person they reached out to was a was an undercover agent. In fact the got so good at it. Actually that the fbi was started. Connecting so isis started. Connecting would be supporters with fbi informant. So he had a bunch of isis operatives working at araca who would get pinged by americans insane. I want to go join isis. And the guys in rocket say that's great. You know we should talk to my trusted friend. This guy online. He'll help you get there. Well that guy online was an fbi. Informant the fbi had already set up the whole system to take you talking about large apparatus. Fifty six field offices. Two hundred plus joint task force according to the state and local level for this We also saw a relatively large coordination at the state level too so particularly for minors. So if you were a sixteen year old kid thing you might join isis. The department of justice was low. Charge you with material support terrorism for a variety of reasons many which i believe are valid right but the state local officials had no hesitation to to charge someone with a gun charge if you're sixteen or seventeen year old. Who's thinking about joining isis. So there's a level of between the two organizations and like you said the material support terrorism clause. I keep going back to it but you really. It's it's just the story of of prevention of widespread recruitment in the us My colleagues in civil liberties and civil rights organizations will say that is way too broad of a statute it allows for way too much freedom for.