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S17: Love: Abe Sada Pt. 2

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S17: Love: Abe Sada Pt. 2

"Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised. this episode includes discussions of sex. Work suicide murder mutilation and necrophilia that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen in nineteen thirties. Japan there were certain subjects. You didn't discuss sex lust female desire but when obey sada strangled her married lover in bed. Those taboos became front page news. It wasn't just the lurid details that fanned the scandalous flames. It was that the murderer was a woman willing to kill to get what she wanted and it was that she never apologized. In short she was a mystery. No one ever quite understood. Pitcher murderer a gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman. We didn't think so society associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female every wednesday. We examined the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals. Hi i'm vanessa richardson. And you're listening to female criminals. A spotify original from podcast. You can find episodes of female criminals and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. or wherever. You listen to podcasts. Last week we met obey sada a former geisha and sex worker. Who began a passionate affair with a married man. Sato wanted him on to herself and decided that the only way to make that happen was to kill him and then kill herself. This week will learn what sada did to the body before fleeing the scene will follow her as she evaded authorities for two days until her fateful arrest. Then we'll hear about her sensational court case and her eventual fate. This episode is brought to you by three. Am what are the adhesives used. Post it notes and airplanes have in common. They're both made with innovations from three m. In fact there are lots of three m products hiding in plain sight that you might not realize including and ninety five respirators in response to covid. 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The newest line of footwear technology from the north face tested by world class athletes active turns energy into momentum to propel you forward no matter the terrain power further learn more at the north face dot com slash active on may eighteenth nineteen thirty six thirty two year old obey sada and her lover forty two year. Old key cheese zoe. Shida rolled around in the sheets at masayuki. The teahouse where the two lovers were staying. The two had been there on and off drinking and making love. Their relationship was only about a month old but they already felt an intense connection. At least saadat did. She was deeply in love with him in fact she was so in love with him that she wanted ishita to be completely hers but since he already had a wife saad i decided the only solution was for both of them to die that way. They could be together always before meeting. Ishida at the in saada bought a knife with the express purpose of using it to kill him. The weapon was out of sight hidden away. She'd shown it to she'd already but he didn't think much of it. It was just a small carving knife after all if anything. He expected her to use it in some erotic role. Play not as a weapon now. Exhausted from hours of making love ishita began to get sleepy. He jokingly told sada not to strangle him and then he does dauth sada intended to stab him but her lover's last remark seems to have made an impression so in the early morning hours of may eighteenth. She used the silk sash of her komodo to strangle him in his sleep. As sada felty shida's body gold limp. Her hands began to tremble the reality of what she had just done settled in. She scrambled off the bed and swiped a bottle of sake left on the nightstand downing it to calm her nerves and then a wave of clarity washed over her. She would say later that she was totally at ease. As though a heavy burden had been lifted from her shoulders relieved that she had done what she believed was necessary. Saddam laid her head down on the pillow next to each shida. She thought about the next step in her plan killing herself. But at some point during those hours sada decided that she do it later. Either by hanging herself or jumping off a cliff. She wasn't ready to do it now before. We continue with sada's psychology. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist. But i have done a lot of research for the show. According to researchers catherine van warmer and shook odia murder-suicide cases almost always involve a gun. Because it's the easiest weapon to then turn on oneself if the perpetrator chooses another method to kill their victim like stabbing or strangling. Instead then quote suicide becomes much more difficult. That's because these methods are significantly harder to do to oneself both logistically and emotionally. So it's no real surprise that saad decided to put off her suicide in the wake of strangling ishida once. She came to that decision. She knew she had to leave the scene but first she wanted to take part of ishida with her sada pulled her knife out but she didn't use it to stab him instead she used it to mutilate his corpse by cutting off his penis and scrotum according to saadeh. Did this so she could keep a part of ashida close to her to quote. Take the part of him. That brought back the most vivid memories after she was done. She carefully took her lover's genitals and wrap them up in paper like a parcel then. She took the knife and carved her name into his left arm. After she drawn blood she used it to write out sada kiichi together on his left thigh and some kichi together forever on the nearby food thanh. None of these actions were premeditated. She only decided to do them. In the moment but to sada these seemed like obvious and ordinary steps. She saw nothing wrong or unusual with mutilating her lover's body after she was done sada got dressed in the she does undergarments and straightened up the room then eight. Am holding the parcel with these cheetahs genitals. She left her. First stop was a used clothing shop where she traded in her komo for a new one there. The store clerk notice the package sada was holding and offered to wrap it up with her purchases as the woman reached out to take it saad. I yelled at her not to touch it then. Sada quickly rushed out of the store by now. She was concerned that the police may be after her so she called masaaki to see if she'd has body had been discovered one of the maids answered and made no mention of anything. Unusual relieved saadeh told her she'd be back at noon and asked that ishita not be disturbed before then he was sleeping. The made promised that wouldn't be a problem with that handled and knowing she still had some time before anyone was on her tail. Sada called goral. Oh mia her former lover and patron. She knew that as soon as news broke of what she'd done he'd be looked at suspiciously for associating with her she'd been his mistress for just over a year and even now he continued to support her financially. She told him that she needed to meet with him as soon as possible. A few hours later sada met up with omya. She immediately started to apologize. She was adamant that she had wronged him but no matter how much he pressed. She wouldn't tell him what her apology was. Actually about without any other information omi assumed that sada had taken another lover and felt guilty for it. He insisted that it didn't matter. In fact he still wanted to be with her her syphilis diagnosis earlier that year had scared him off but now that his mistress sat across from him once again he had a change of heart. Sada apparently agreed after their meal the to retired to a private room and had sex sada later said that she slept with oh mia only out of obligation he had done so much for her and this was essentially her parting gift but regardless of her feelings for oh mia and his loyalty she didn't give him any warning of what was about to become public later that afternoon at masaaki a made finally entered sada. Andy shida's room. It was long past noon when sada said she'd be back so the made assumed it was fine to go about her rounds but when she stepped inside she was met with a horrific scene. Ishida strangled to death with the sash. Still around his neck and his body mutilated one of the last things she saw before she ran out of the room was the blood soaked bed. The police rushed to the scene and tried to keep things under control but news quickly spread of the gruesome murder and from the second. The story hit the newspapers on may nineteenth. It was a sensation. Everyone wanted to hear about what happened at masaaki as well as all about obey sada not only had. She killed her lover. She'd mutilated his corpse and carved her name into his arm with each leaked detail. The story only became more exciting. And even more importantly everyone wanted to know where the murderous was a massive search broke out for the missing woman and as word of the case spread and obey sada panic set in people saw her everywhere there were so many suspected sightings that the police were stretched thin trying to track them all down. People were so desperate to get a look at sada that there was nearly a stampede when one person claimed he'd spotted her but the actual sada was laying low. She was careful to avoid going anywhere that she'd gone before in case the police were waiting for her. She also changed kimonos again and began wearing glasses to alter her look. She decided she would go to the city of osaka and jump off a cliff on mount e coma and she planned on taking cheetahs genitals with her to keep him close until the very end but soon she realized making the trip to osaka was too risky so instead she used a pseudonym to secure a room at the she nago in where she could hide out while sada's seemed to know that she was in trouble. she still didn't regret her actions. She felt no guilt in fact while at the in saada treated herself to a massage and a beer for herself. But when that didn't work she turned her attention to finalizing her suicide plans. She felt that she had no choice now but to die at the in with her new plan figured out she penned three goodbye letters. The i was to own. She thanked him for everything he'd done for her and apologized for any pain. She might have caused him. The second was to a friend who she thanked for her support and help over the years and the third was to shida. She wrote him a short message. It read you who my love most even when dead you are mine. I'll be with you soon. She sealed the letter and addressed the envelope to you who are mine but sada a chance to go through with her plan on the evening of may nineteenth. After writing her letters. She drank three beers and fell asleep. She was so exhausted. She slept all through the night and into the next afternoon. Meanwhile authorities were closing in on her police detective. Ondo matsu kitschy had been investigating all the ins in tokyo figuring. That sada was likely hiding out in one of them. He arrived at the sh inagua in on the afternoon of may twentieth and asked to look over the registration book. He quickly noticed a gender neutral name. Olaudah now intrigued. He asked the made to show him to the room so he could confirm whether the occupant was a man or a woman. The made lead matsu kitschy up to the room. He peeked into the window and saw the occupants sleeping inside. He thought it was suspicious that someone was sleeping in the middle of the afternoon so he knocked loudly on the door inside the room. Sada startled awake and saw the figures outside her window with a sinking realization. She knew that she had been found but instead of trying to flee thirty two year old sod collected herself and then answered the door with little preamble. She reportedly said. I'm the obey sada. you are looking for. According to the maid who accompanied matsu kitschy. Sada then changed into different clothes and did her makeup then when she was ready with e. sheet wrapped genitals in hand. They lead her away from the in and to police headquarters by then sada had a smile on her face and a whole new plan in mind. She may have gotten caught but she had every intention of being reunited with these shida very soon up. 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In fact there are lots of three m products in plain sight that you might not realize including and ninety five respirators and response to covid. Nineteen free increased respirator production to make more respirators than ever before. Helping those on the front lines. Continue the fight. Learn more at three m dot com slash covid. Now back to the story on may eighteenth nineteen thirty six thirty two year old obey saw murdered. Her lover mutilated his corpse and fled the scene for two days. She managed to evade the authorities until may twentieth when detectives found her hiding out at a tokyo in and arrested her. The police took her to the metropolitan police headquarters but they weren't in any serious rushed to interrogate her instead. They kept her in a holding cell while they gathered evidence. Saddam mostly slept for the better part of three days. When she was awake wasn't too happy with her new surroundings though. She was still allowed. Some amenities like sweets and flowers to decorate herself on one of those three nights. Sada talked through her cell bars to the guard on duty. She told him that she hoped they executed her. And that it would happen quickly. It would be better that way. This was partly why sada had been so cooperative. When the police showed up at her room at the end she anticipated the death. Penalty welcomed even. She hadn't been able to escape tokyo and follow through with her suicide plan but now she figured she could just let the government handle things soon. She'd be dead and reunited with her lover. Finally the detectives brought sada in for her first round of interogations. They were immediately thrown off. They were expecting a demure regretful. Woman someone who even claimed insanity but instead saad. I informed them that she didn't regret a thing. She had no intention of claiming she was innocent. That would go against her. One goal to be found guilty and given the death penalty so that she could see her initial plan through so she spilled everything. Her thoughts her motivations her methods. She explained in detail why she had killed these shida as she told the police. It was to make sure that no other woman would ever touch him again. But even after revealing her motive. The police still couldn't understand it to them. It didn't seem to make sense for a woman to commit premeditated murder. It left them speechless now. If she'd acted in a moment of passion that would make sense but sada refuse to allow them to manipulate her words. She hadn't killed for revenge or jealousy nor was she insane and she hadn't done those things to each sheet as corpse to mutilate him she'd simply take in his genitals to remain close to him until they could be reunited and she maintained that the carved and bloody writing on his body was a sort of final love letter to sada. These were all gestures of love. Not cruelty still. She knew how it looked to the outside. Which is why she expected. She'd get the death penalty between the mutilation and the prominence of the case. The government would likely wanna make an example out of her and this case was prominent the details. Were so wild. That people couldn't help but be fascinated. Not only. was this gory murder. But the perpetrator was a petite beautiful young woman. Who had once been a geisha. It had all the marks of a sensational story and in nineteen thirty. Six japan was in the throes of serious political turmoil. Any distraction was welcome so as the case grew in popularity rumors and wild suggestions about sada's background flu. Reporters dug into her childhood searching for dirt and trying to find an explanation for how woman could do something so terrible. The police did their part as well. They interviewed whoever they could find who had known sada throughout her life until finally on june tenth nineteen thirty six about three weeks after the murder detectives decided they had enough to indict her for murder and mutilation newspapers blasted the indictment across the country some even quoted sada that she didn't believe she had done anything wrong and her fervent wish for execution according to law scholar john h bloom in rare. Instances criminals actually factored the death penalty into their murder suicide. Plots in other words they kill in order to be executed. According to blum being indirect or passive about the termination of one's existence is still acting suicidal. Initially sada intended to carry out both acts herself but the discovery of his sheet is body threw a wrench in her plans so she did the next best thing. She basically volunteered for the death penalty. She refused to tell the police what they wanted to hear and didn't fight the charges by telling the truth and then doing nothing. She was helping along the process of getting to her death for six months. The prosecution assembled its case against her while saw a waited patiently in a sow until finally the first day of the trial arrived on november twenty fifth nineteen thirty. Six sada was escorted into the courtroom in japan. Trial by jury is not an option in criminal cases. for sada's trial three judges led by judge host. Soya would hear the case and decide her fate. But sada wasn't worried. She expected only one out come to hasten things along she even tried to get rid of her attorney and do away with any kind of defense but for one reason or another when she got to trial she had council. It seemed that no one would allow her to make such a decision for herself during the trial. The prosecution's argument was pretty straightforward. Or at least it should have been after all. They had a perpetrator who had confessed to everything. But the judges and even sada's own lawyer couldn't fathom how a woman could do what she did and be of sound mind. The prosecution argued that sada had committed premeditated murder in a clear conscious and sane state even though sada's specifically told her attorney that she was guilty and didn't want a defense he claimed sada was indeed insane. In fact the physician who examined sadat concluded that she showed characteristics of hysteria now antiquated and made up diagnosis often. Given to any woman who acted outside of social norms the concept of hysteria stretches back to antiquity and was mostly attributed to the presence of a uterus hosa quoted the physicians report to justify his and the other judges belief that sada had been temporarily overcome by insanity likely caused by her own sexual organs. That sada had kill these shida in a moment of womanly mental weakness. For the sake of the country both sides wanted to make it clear that sadhana was an exception to the rule and that no woman was really and truly capable of cold blooded murder. The lucky few who've gotten a seat in the courtroom listened with rapt attention. This was better than any newspaper article. They were hearing details. That had never made it into print. But judge ho. Soya and the other judges had a problem at the time. Japan had strict censorship. Laws that forbade any public discussion of sex but the judges were required by law to quote discuss the specifics of the case in a setting open to the press and observers which meant they had to be very careful hall. Soya tried to use euphemisms for certain words like extremity instead of penis but still everyone knew what was being talked about he took note of every giggle and hushed whisper and he worried his courtroom was being made into a joke so when it came time to discuss the details of the murder itself. He made the decision to clear the courtroom for a closed door session. He argued that. The crime's gruesome nature was reason enough to bar the public from listening. An despite all the hullaballoo sada's trial was really just a formality. No one not even sada denied her guilt. So no one was surprised. When the panel of judges found her guilty of murder and mutilation what everyone really wanted to know was what her sentence would be on december eighth nineteen thirty six sada return to the courtroom for sentencing and made a statement to the court. It was her final attempt to make everyone understand her. She told them the thing i regret. Most about this incident is that i have come to be misunderstood as some kind of sexual pervert. There had never been a man in my life like ishida. There were men. I liked and with whom i slept without accepting money but none made me feel the way i did toward him. After that sada sat back down in her seat resigned to her fate even when faced with prison or possibly death. Sada refused to show any remorse given her crimes. Some members of the public called for the death penalty others argued for leniency. In there is she was a woman and therefore couldn't really be held accountable in the end. The prosecution only asked for ten years. Sada was shocked. That wasn't what she wanted it all and she would have never imagined such a light sentence for a crime like hers now. Her only hope was that the judges might overrule the prosecution and give her the harsh sentence she'd been counting on but that wasn't to be on december twenty first nineteen thirty six. The three judges agreed that saad wouldn't get ten years. She'd get only six. All three believed that sada had suffered from some sort of mental weakness at the time of the crime and could not be held fully responsible. Interestingly judge ho soya found ishida somewhat at fault in strange show of victim blaming hoya argued that he shida's should have known better than to joke with sada about being strangled. He believed that ishita had played right into sada's hands and that he should have done something to stop her earlier but regardless sadhana wasn't pleased. She insisted that she was guilty that she deserved the death penalty and yet the court decided that she was little more than a hysterical woman. Who couldn't be held responsible for her actions. She was going to prison and then in six short years she would be free. It was the worst possible outcome up. Next sada's life behind bars and the legacy of her crime. If you're tuning into this podcast chances. Are you let curiosity driver. Life introducing the redesigned twenty twenty. Two mitsubishi eclipse cross. For all of. You want to go wherever your ambitions take you. This changes everything. 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Chef take a break from takeout and increase your kitchen confidence with home chef get recipes and perfectly portioned ingredients delivered right to your door so you can prepare your own meal and impress yourself with your new skills for ninety dollars off. Headed home chef dot com slash spotify. That's equivalent to ten free meals when you sign up that's home chef dot com slash spotify for ninety dollars off now back to the story after arresting sada in may nineteen thirty. Six police interrogated thirty two year. Old sex worker for four weeks. I eventually stood trial and was found guilty which everyone expected. But she was handed an extremely lenient sentence. Only six years in jail sada was devastated. In december nineteen thirty six. She was sent to tokyo gi women's penitentiary where she was stripped of her name from that point on. She was only prisoner number. Eleven at first sada was miserable. She had none of the luxuries. She was accustomed to as a well paid sex worker and mistress once again. She was back in a place with strict rules. She felt trapped but eventually she came to accept her sentence and she stopped thinking about suicide at some point early in her prison sentence. She decided that she would actually continue her life. As quote a living memorial to each shida with this new epiphany came swell of relief and happiness. It was such a severe shift that even the guards took notice of her new attitude. But it didn't last for long on the anniversary of cheetahs murder. A buddhist nun visited thirty three year. Old sada as she performed a service any she does memory the none implored sada to take her face more seriously after the woman left sada went into an emotional spiral for days on end. She cried in her cell refused food and could barely manage the daily labor required of the prisoners thoughts of suicide returned. She started to fantasize about ways to end her life so she could be with her lover as the summer. went on. sada's attitude worsened. She alternated between bouts of tears and fits of rage. One time she got so angry she cut off most of her hair another time. During inspection rounds saad took a bucket of dirty water and poured it a guard. Saadeh said the guard hadn't done anything to draw her. Ire sada quote simply wanted to do something bad. It was an impulsive act. Meant to draw attention in a study by researcher jesse mayors and his colleagues he found that even temporary stints in prison can have serious effects on people's personalities in short as three months prisoners became more impulsive and their attentional control. Weakened sada may have had some rebellious teenage years. But for most of her adult life she'd been careful and controlled woman in prison all of that. Self discipline deteriorated. She was reduced to her most immature self acting out because she felt helpless and had no options. But the prison guards didn't tolerate this kind of thing so sada was thrown into solitary confinement. Guards put restraints on her wrists and tied them behind her back. They left her like that for a day. Then the buddhist nuns returned to see her. This time sada was much more receptive to what the woman had to. The none persuaded her to see the error of her ways and embrace religion. Everything changed after that meeting for the next three years. Sada practiced buddhism. She didn't cause any more trouble and she never thought about killing herself again. Then in may nineteen forty one. Nearly five years to the day of sheet is murder. something completely unexpected happened. A guard came to sada's cell and told her to collect her things she was to be released. Sada's sentence had been commuted one year early. This was due to a large round of pardons that came down. As part of japan's mythical founding celebration just the november before sada followed the guard absolutely elated. This wasn't the same sada who had so desperately wanted to end her life to be with a lover now. she was a woman who desired to live. And who was excited about the future. The guard brought sada to a small room where her older sister waited for her. She held sada out of her prison attire. And into a no sada ran her hands along the silk fabric. She could barely remember the last time she touched silk. She could almost cry at how soft it was when sada left the prison that night. She was informed that the police had set up an identity protection program for her. She was simply too well known if she went back into the world using her real name would never have a moment of privacy. Let alone get a job. And be a functioning member of society so they assigned her a pseudonym and gave her the proper identification to enable a fresh start from then on she would be yoshi masa coal but even with the polices help sada struggled to remain anonymous. After leaving prison. She got a job as a maid for a wealthy family but somehow they discovered her real identity and fired her right away. They couldn't have someone like her in their house so sada was back to square one. Unfortunately sada's skills were very specific to one industry sex work but she was determined that that was behind her now. She tried hard to find other work but no one wanted a single woman with no education or work history then sada meta man who she only ever reference to as why he was a serious businessman and he asked her to be his mistress sada hesitated. She didn't wanna fall back into this line of work. She thought about what the buddhist nun might think. Surely she wouldn't approve. Perhaps more importantly it felt like a total betrayal of ashida for her to be with another man but saad. I didn't have any other options. So she agreed. Sada planned on keeping a low profile in tokyo but japan was in the middle of a war and that made things difficult at one point. The city was evacuated and both sada and y were sent to live in the countryside in her teenage years sada head hated the countryside but now as a woman in her late thirties she loved it. She found it peaceful and simple. She worked in the fields dressed in casual clothes and spent her days befriending the country folk to her relief. She was finally anonymous. If she'd had her way she would have stayed there for the rest of her days but why wanted to move back to tokyo and as soon as it was allowed they did as sada sat on the train and watch the countryside fit into the distance. All she could think was that she was making a big mistake. It turned out saad. I was right soon after returning to tokyo with y and then relocating with him to a small village his family discovered her true identity. They pressured why to end things with sawed off for the sake of their families reputation and sure enough he did. It just wasn't worth the risk to be with her soon. After the break-up sada began using her real name again her pseudonym wasn't doing much to protect her. It seemed that no matter what the truth always caught up with her. And if that was the case then sada at least wanted the power to defend her name. She started fighting back in the years. Since her arrest many books and articles had come out about her which she felt didn't portray her accurately accurately so she even sued a writer for libel and slander. She made a little money off of the settlement but not enough to live on. Eventually she decided to go back to waitressing By nineteen fifty to forty eight year old sato was working in a tokyo. Restaurant called ho- sheiky who sui her employers were well aware of who she was and even encouraged sada to embrace her name. Her presence drew in large crowds of new customers of whom wanted to meet the dangerous. Obey sada at ho- shaky who sui to learn how to turn her name from liability to win asset and in nineteen sixty seven. She earned enough money to open her own. Restaurant called wakatake for nearly three years. The restaurant was a great success. Finally sato was doing what. Oh mia had always envisioned for her and she absolutely loved it but then sada met a young man who convinced her to go into business with him. Unfortunately he was just using her. He stole her savings leaving sada with absolutely nothing so in nineteen seventy only three years after its opening. She had to close. Walk talk six months after that sada disappeared never to be seen again. Plenty of people tried to find out what happened to her. Reporters were determined to get this final scoop. Some thought she died from illness others that she became a buddhist nun. There was also speculation. That sada finally completed suicide just as she had promised all those years ago but try as they might. The reporters leads always hit a dead end. No one ever found out what actually happened to sada and that was probably just how she wanted it. The public had never been able to accept or understand her the way she had hoped anyway. So for the final stretch of her life sada stopped trying to explain herself. And just let go. Thanks again for tuning into female criminals over back next week with a new episode for more information on obey sada amongst the many sources we used. We found geisha harlot strangler star by william johnston extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of female criminals and other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. We'll see you next time. Female criminals is a spotify original. From podcast it is executive produced by max cutler. Sound designed by dick schroeder with production assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and erin larson. This episode of female criminals was written by alex. Burns with writing assistance by joanna phil and joel callan fact checking by adriana romero and research by mickey taylor. I'm vanessa richardson.

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AWTY 56 - Play Nice (A Silent Voice)

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AWTY 56 - Play Nice (A Silent Voice)

"This is wrong on so many levels and welcome to our exploration and education and anime. I'm your anime idiot Patrick Dugan. I'm an anime expert Dana Hollander Brennan McCullough your animate. Uh Ha ha. He's got jokes league because it's a sin points yeah the because there's not nearly start. I think that's the best way to do it. I think he did at one and it's not going to get better. It's GONNA be some weird cryptic references in the sixties otherwise behind the scenes. We are very worried that Brendan's computer will it and that was a very mean prank to play on as soon as we started recording computers. GonNa legitimate it is the most perfectly timed way for computer to be like fuck this. I'm out trucks. It feels like that sometimes her bus goof because we're watching a silent voice yeah he gour where watch another movie this week we've been burned into by so many series just forego that medium entirely just movies now so yeah. This was your pick this week. Dana what what what was your history with it nothing. I've just heard very good things about yeah. I know I know what it's about vaguely but like I don't know exactly what it's about but I've always been interested in watching it because I like a good would animated film. You are a cinema goer who of s Japanese persuasion well you love Japanese films all the same right films all of them Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. That's my shit on loop every day playing Brendan. Do you know anything about this movie probably about the same as Dana. I kinda got a basic idea of the plot and I remember when it came out. It had some buzzed because I think it came out not too long after your name so it's too big emotional anime movies. I got like wildly popular order like even in the states so it's kind of like. Oh Hey how's animates not just tits and monsters which covert Albert that the release of this US release I should say was October twentieth twenty seventeen so within the careers here is your name. Your name came out in in the states in April two thousand seventeen. Okay convenience. Yeah your name in April great great snow different the same so yeah. I know I know just about the plot and I know it's supposed to be like a beautifully animated and Wonderful Score but that's that's about it. I don't know too much and this also I analysts to watch eventually well. Let's let's get that. Pencil ready to cross it off because we're about to watch the UH I'm I'm not crying. You're crying correct. I am not cry one of US money. I'm crying yeah. We'll we'll. We'll talk about it but I haven't really been and saying how I feel about this movie because I don't like it very much. Oh did that on top. That's long I wanted to see I. I was being cagey about it because I knew that you liked it so I wanted to talk about it on here. So we'll wind side me. Make me especially sad. That's fine yeah. Let's go suprise uprise karnavas sweeter the bell yeah. I I should rephrase this I think this is a very a beautifully well made movie. I think the message is yeah so well well. We'll get into it. Okay so movie starts. We have a boy and he's making making plans. He has a calendar that has deadlines on it. want us to quit his job. Another wants to go to the bank. which I mean I mean I know are signs of like wrapping things up so yeah content warning talk of suicide so he's shown on a bridge and he crosses off a day that says final day and he gets up on the bridge and he well I think in his mind he gets up on the bridge but he doesn't actually do that. and he's like distracted by by some kids doing some fireworks and then we get like an opening which is him just hanging out with all of his friends just bunch of kids elementary school kids and the opening leads up to the stay at school. When a new girl is their transfer student she's yet. She's very cute. Shy and the teacher tells her to introduce yourself to the class. She does not do deuce. Oh he taps her on the shoulder. She gets out a notebook and she has notes on it. That says my name is Shoko. If you want to talk to me use this notebook because I can't hear and all the kids in class are pretty like Haw 'cause I guess they've never met a deaf kid before. Noni Noni she she just gets to know some of the girls in the class the pretty nice to her start out her nickname is show John which they say is the same nickname as the boy we saw earlier. His name is Ishida. 'cause last name is show. Ya So he's Shoshana also what a coincidence and then we're pretty much just shown her in several different scenes having a really hard time at school because they're just not accommodating her her disability there's a girl names now who at first. It's very helpful to her. She takes her notebook and she writes stuff down for her during class. there's a moment where they're reading out loud in class. The teacher still has her do it because she can talk like most deaf people too they can talk and because she can't hear herself it's not perfect and and then when Ishida goes he makes fun of her which is Shitty and she's having trouble well making friends were shown her after school with now and like a couple of other girls and now we're leaving by. Shoko and she's just by herself and then he she comes up and she signs to him that she wants to be friends and he she says it to and he calls her weird in throws dirt her face. That's cool move off to a great start off to a good start very likable learned and then the teacher tells everybody that they're gonNA start taking some time out of every morning to learn sign language so everybody can talk to Takushoko easier and now is like why do we have to do that writing easier for me and then there's one girl that gets up up. She's like I WANNA learn it and her name is Sahara and then there's just like more shit of them ridiculing her him and he writes something on the board. I think I missed something because he writes something about how she took Sahara away did Sahara leave the school for some reason or another yeah. I I also missed what they were trying to get at with this. Ah No clue cool chalkboard is what it boils down to yeah. It just comes up later so like and miss something and he erases it as she walks in and he's like Oh. No someone did this rude and then she writes thank you which is sad because he's jerk children awful children awful and then she has hearing aids and they kind of start making fun. They don't start making fun of her for it. They do make fun of her for it. He yells in her ears and and starts taking them out just fucking throwing them and then one day he rip them out of her ears and she starts bleeding like he pulled hold on her ear lobe and he's called the principal's office because assault and as he's leaving the school with his two friends friends she's waiting for him and he's like what are you want and then sorry she holds up her notebook and it says I'm sorry which which made me very sad and she wants to she just wants to be friends so bad and he's just the worst and then he tosses her notebook in the pond and the next day she's not there and the principal is in their class saying like she's not in class today because she's her mom found out. She's getting bullied like you guys are fucking up her hearing aids which are very expensive who done it and the teacher was just like Ishida Ashida you. You're the worst you've openly done it in class in front of me. I know it's you. I know it's you also also shitty teacher. That doesn't give a shit so I'm I've just sort of. Let it happen and get to this point. It's true everyone kind of sucks. Here's these two girls else so she does kind of trying to be like Oh. Well you guys you make fun of her too but it's just you know just that thing of he's the one who got caught. Everyone else is just saying like well yeah but we told you to stop even though they didn't and then school called his mother he gets. Home and she she tells him get ready like we're GONNA go see. Shoko and her mom and she sees they go see her. and his mom gives Shoko smother money to replace the hearing aids and then Shoko is like with her like adjacent to the scene. She's feeding. Some pigeons sounds so easy to kind of sneaks up behind her and tries to be sneaky but the birds fly off. We don't really see them have a conversation BIA after this he starts getting bullied for one reason or another I guess because kids suck and there's one day where he goes into the classroom and see Shoko wiping the tape wiping his desk off and he's like what are you doing and it's evident that she just didn't want him to see whatever someone had wrote. She thinks she's returning the favor for him doing that for her. and then he just starts fighting her physically which was sad and she pushes him down and gets on top of him and he's like like he says you always have this look on your face like just say what you're thinking and she says I'm trying my best and that made me sad and I was semi cried. It was like the first time I teared up yeah and then after that altercation. Shoko transfers and there's time drum woo ishita is at at another school and he is there to find Shogo and he sees her and he's like hey do you remember me is she's just like and runs away which is naturally physically fire the last time they saw each other you're but he's he chases after her and he wants to return a notebook and he like hands the to her and signs. You forgot this and she likes signs to him. Like why do you know sign language and he says I learned it like I just wanted to learn it and then he asks if they can be friends and she cries and then we jumped to the day after he tried to commit suicide he he goes downstairs for breakfast. His mom looks exactly the same from his childhood. she yeah she. Thanks him for the money because he left money on her pillow and then she asks him why he tried to kill himself and he says like. I've been through a lot lately as she was just like I knew like I knew something was wrong. Like why don't you talk to me and she picks up the money she holds a lighter to it and she's like a few. You have to promise me that you're not. GonNa try some shit like like that again or I'M GONNA burn. This money worked so hard for and he's just like okay. I'm very very sorry Ma'am and then she burns it by accident oops so I I want to talk about this real quick. 'cause this also solidifies why I think he such a the piece of shit so they say one point seven million yen which I did. The conversion rate is almost sixteen thousand dollars who yes oh we it's sort of built up as light childhood bullying but my dude cost this deaf family sixteen thousand dollars in damages yes that was it directly the money he cost them and that's what he was paying back or is it just a general yeah because when when they go to when his mom drags him to apologize she gives the money to pay back for all of the multiple hearing aids that he trashed which cost sixteen thousand dollars okay. I knew she gave him the money. I was feels directly like he's paying back exactly how much he calls her or general like Hey. I'm going to kill myself. Here's all the money I mean. I have to make up for. Just everything yeah well. Oh you believe it's a direct correlation to that. Okay who it's a split and the other thing I wanted to just while I'm talking about this number. One a felony damage charges for like destruction of property is anything over five hundred dollars at least in the US so so This kid would have had felony like hate crime charges against him for targeting this death woman in her class but light light bullying is the great kids are shitty and angry and especially the talk about there's shitting though yeah gets a real shitty which is why I don't like it. I don't give a shit about this piece of shit yet. The reason he started getting bullying they say later on he has contact issues which yeah I I get that but also a lot of the bullying we see in him. Being bullied. MONTAGES are him being bullied for being such an asshole to this person. He drove out of school. A lot of the graffiti and stuff are like Jerky fucking asshole so that is some of the bullying stuff he gets to you and we'll feed into more stuff. I don't like later on but I just wanted to establish that well. It's still relevant great. Okay Sorry I have feelings about this movie clue so he's going back to school. he explains that that him taking that notebook to. Shoko was supposed to be like a last act of courage. He reveals that like once they graduated waited from elementary school and moved on to middle school his friends kind of dumped him and told everybody not to talk to him because he's crazy and we have this visual of him. His in his is just like XS being over. Everyone's faces 'cause he just doesn't WANNA look. He just ignores them all. He doesn't WanNa look at them. You can't look at them. He doesn't want to deal with it and he also while sitting in class has this moment of like making things up that people are saying about him saying that he's crazy. Roese and asking what he's alive and stuff and he's eating lunch alone and he's like wondering when he can see Shoko again 'cause he really wants to he goes home and his mom apologizes for accidentally burning the money and then. She says that she wouldn't have wanted to use that money anyway because he raised it specifically to kill himself self which would have made her feel gross the next day he's parking bike at school and he's walking toward the school when he sees this kid with really fluffy hair very steven universe. Ask I was a little little fro and it has a green tint to it so it's slight Steven Universe decorative so someone comes up to him and it's like let me use your bike. I forgot something at home and he's like Nah. This is my bike you cannot use it and they kind of start fighting each other and he's calling for help and then issued goes over and he says do you want to use my bike and the guy's like yeah so he steals his bike national and he has to walk home and he's thinking. I have to find like a natural away to see. Shoko again. I can't just go see her. It will be weird so he finds God divine intervention God I was GonNa say God intervention. That's not sees Jesus POPs hello. There's a coupon for some bread and he's like Oh. She likes is to feed the fish bread. Bring her some bread so he gets to school. He gets to her school will and there's a kid standing at the door and very is Scott here. He just left because he's like see. Shoko and the the kid is just like she's not here and he's like I can see her. She's over there and they're just like she and they closed the door. She's not here and he's walking home and fluffy hair boy. Is there with his bike. He's like I found your bug. I looked all over for I found it abandoned in a rice field here. You go friend. My name is Nagasuka Suka. I think nice to meet and his ex falls off of his face 'cause now he's a friend because he did this league for you. Shida and and now he's comfortable with him. She's a friend. Also I look at my notes and yes that is correct. Knock Asuka Great. They go to the movies together. They're just like having a chill time. They get food and she does like what does it mean to be friends. Like what are the qualifications applications of having a friends and Nagasuka a very funny guy he liked grabs a French fries ketchup so it looks like a cigarette and he's just like my dude. There are no qualifications for being friends friendship transcends words and logic my man and he starts to see so so which I also love this. This is the biggest I've ever seen and I love him. Yeah he's great finally character. I lack back you don't even like Shoko easily with okay so issue to try to go see. Shoko again but the same will kid is blocking the way and he's like this kid that we at this point assume as a boy says I'm going out with Shoko Andy. She does just accepts this. He's just like all right that makes makes sense sure and then the kid says if you're here like to be selfish and get some kind of self satisfaction out of this you should leave yeah yes and and my is the movie ended right there and then soukous there and he grabs the kid and he's like hey fucker. My buddy wants to see this girl. Let let's see the girl so they're causing a scene and then all of the people that are in the classroom like come over to watch and she'd makes eye contact with. Shoko and he's like you and he eats himself out of there and Shoko follows him and they're having signed conversation down by the river where she she feeds the fish and the kid that is supposedly going out with. Shoko has a camera so he's like zoomed in on their hands and hand is translating the conversation for Nagasuka and a Ishida says like I wasn't sure if it was okay for me to come see you but I wanna be your friend as she says I want to be your friend and then he gives her the bread and they feed the fish together and she pulls out the notebook he gave her and like opens it to read it and he's like no never mind I don't want you to read it and they like struggle over it and it falls in the water and then she jumps Simpson the water to get it and then he jumps into and they get out he apologizes for that and gives it back to her and then they part ways for the day so yet all all pick up from here trinity half the next day at school it turns out the kid that was so protective was taking pictures and posted all over. Social Media show Ya jumping into the river and he gets suspended for like improper behavior or whatever he's not supposed to jump in that river or something irrelevant. Yeah Basic Leo's like against student conduct which is being an idiot all wet and stuff so he's suspended his mom tells them to go pick up his sister at school and when he does he's here's someone in the park like play tunnel thing and he goes and it's it's the kid it's the kid those taking pictures we learn another name is Zorro and they there's still mad about stuff stuff and show. Ya is our sorry. I should say zero is still mad at show. Ya but show you doesn't really care that the picture got him suspended so rather than men sleeping in the slide decide show you decides to take take them home for a nice dinner so that night Yuzu is staying over and goes out in the rain show you a follows gives them shoes so they are out in the rain and it turns out that zero had a fight with Shoko and that's why they were gone and questions show you as motivations for trying to reconnect the Shoko and show you like hey. I know I'm a bad person. I know I don't deserve anything but I'm trying here. Try and then suddenly we learned that use zero is actually Shoko sister and not her boyfriend at all which number one I before they established when we first get them in the classroom. They just say Shoko is it's my girlfriend and I was like yes. She is gay perfect great. No because they had an established us are as the boyfriend yet they just said. SHOKA SHOKA was my girlfriend. Es finally that's what I thought that's what I do but also earlier Maria the younger child Donald House was like oh by mom casey their mom her mom go off to work and I was like Oh but show us mom's still here. I was like Oh to mops ops yeah and find Maria. Maria actually show you the niece assist so it's like okay yeah. Fuck me up that relation that whole family dynamic. I was so confused because we don't see the movie so it just Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. We got the big reveal that these are the sister they get to the house and Shoko Zeros mom comes out wow and recognizes show ya as the boy who was the worst and of course slaps him in the face fair yeah so they go well he leaves and then in the mom go inside and the MOMS like hey they don't hang out with that piece of Shit and use our or zero fuck is I misheard it as us us. Abu My doing back and forth so I'm just trying to translate my handwriting and real-time line if everyone nicknames yet all gay sister is like well. I can decide who I want to hang out with so I don't care. I'm not gonNA tell Shoko to not hang out with anyone. so the next day show you introduces knock Asuka to Shoko and zoo and tries to get shockers phone number but says it's so vaguely that Shoko is like oh I actually want the the phone number of one of our elementary school friends who was not the meanest person in elementary school but someone who's still all the bully. I don't think so they learn that she goes to a different school horace phone number. I'll think Sahara ever believed her with with the time jump I lost track of who was who elementary school so. I guess yeah sorry Yeah Asahara Person. She's the one that I wanted to learn sign language right yeah yeah I narrow after being told so so yeah they go to visit her. She is going to school in existence city so Shoko and show Ya go and travel and they find her and learned that she learn sign language and is super friendly the and immediately jumps back into being friends and apologizes for what happened and all the bullshit the happened in elementary school aw so while they're catching up show you feels super guilty and all that and walks away and passes NOCA- Ohka who was the extra M- mean girl in elementary school. I'm going to cry and her name. Aim is but they call her now Turkey right now. Her name is bitch. I just fucking. She doesn't deserve I ate her. She doesn't deserve name. No early. Pay attention to anyone's name in the elementary school. I'm just learning all of their like adult what adult Gotcha but now but now yeah however Shoko wants to earn I forget who wants them to reconnect but show your shoka wants now to be at least reconnected somewhat they visit her at the cat cafe that she works at she sees them and hides so they end up not connecting and show Ya. It's like oh I wouldn't want to hang out with me either self-loathing so we see Shoko at the doctor and she's getting news news and show you gives us our cat to give her that like a little purse that he he picked up at the cat cafe and she's crying in a room but I I believe the news was that she got like a new he or she lost hearing in one ear but got like a new hearing aid in the other and is able to verbally communicate a little bit. This was also left as subtext so I don't know the exact change that happens here. I just thought it was like is that she's he's just. GonNa like fully lose her hearing eventually like that's just how I read it probably yeah because I was confused because she is being more verbal than previously Asli but they do know that one hearing aid has gone so I assumed she completely lost hearing in one ear and I don't know maybe as trying to verbally communicate. This is all subtexts yeah yeah but yeah so later on now actually meets up with ler show yeah and sees. Shoko across the street right buying something is like Oh that death idiot. We're still making fun of her right to hate her and so yet show. Ya is now like oh no yeah so. Shoko oh comes over to meet them and now jumps right back into bullying her and takes her hearing aid and show. Ya is like hey. I'm changed now and now is like Oh. She's your girlfriend. You only care because she's your girlfriend. this is when she started out as mean girl in my notes and this is when she wanted to just Schertel bitch yeah you would think as you get older and mature as a person you would think wow. I really shouldn't have made fun of the girl in my class. No no she's Classen her again. She was like old habits old. So the next day after the bullying they go to see the car show who is wearing her hair up for the first time and you can like exterior see the hearing aid and she's speaking show you is thrown off by this and Asif she consigned in which me immediately makes herself conscious because basically what he's saying is your voices weird because your death and she she gives him a gift that she got the previous day and in her voice. She says I like you but he cannot make out the words that she's trying to say so he thinks she's talking about the Moon and so he defends her and she runs away and is all embarrassed because she confessed her feelings and he didn't understand stand her so the next day in class he goes up to one of the other people from elementary school. He hasn't talked to basically since since then and is like hey so. Why do girls change their hair. There has to be a single answer right one reason well. He over hears talking before he talks to them. She walks in and she they hear all the other girls like oh you change your hair. You got got a DI. Di like somebody and throwing these suggestions of why she might have changed your hair and that's what makes him think like. Oh is that why Shoko changed her hair and that's enough for him to to get up and ask him but she is like now. There's many reasons. It's not always about a guy but also this other classmate. wants to hang out with you so they they less uh-huh so they gather up. They're all they're all being chums actually trying to have high school friendships so it's basically every character we've mentioned so far. goes to amusement park. It's Shoko Shoko Universe Steven Universe and bitch for some reason who because I don't think it was. I think it was trying to like because it's like a bunch of light. The grade school kids again. Oh everyone should be either. I don't know it could it could have been the blonde girl maybe yeah yeah but they go on a roller coaster word. We get some enlightening like hey don't judge things until the end heavy-handedness and we see deep show. Ya is actually having the realization that he's having fun for the first time in is still feeling guilty like I don't deserve to to have fun so he and the bitch girl decided to go get food they go to the concession stand and the person some working at is one of the old friends that turned on show yeah and he's now feeling all weird again end because he remembers about what a Dick he was and bitch girl is like I thought you would want to reconnect. We're doing uh-huh doing you. A favor each be happy and basically just goes into the life was so much simpler before death death row showed up and ruined everything because you got weird appeared and every everyone feels weird. It's all deaf. Girls Fault man fuck this bitch so hard hard yeah and she goes and he's like hey. I really wanted to go on this ferris wheel. you and me alone go on this ferris. Wheel sounds like a great idea especially after areas saying how much better better things would be if you were never on it. Let's go on this very tall object. zero is like. Hey hey a shock. Oh take my camera and maybe take some pictures and they leave and then after the amusement park they easy through and show you meet up and US Zero is like hey I snuck. I was basically just rolling the camera the entire time. You really need to see what happened. and we see that on the ferris wheel bitch girl was like hey you deaf idiot. Why do you have to ruin everything. Everything's your fault and then just like attacks her and that's basically where where mm-hmm we get to the third the third act so yeah. I'm just GONNA call her sister. Because I'm going to butcher the name of pronounce it shows show you the the video and we basically says all he wants is for Shoko to like herself and he sees a lot of self loathing in her so I just I just I just want her to enter all the Shit I and when he's at school show you tells his new friends. He's like the red. I just caught him. Ron But girl the other all time such Colorado. It's easier another name. He tells us about the video and he's kind of like wow what a bitch like who bullies the death is the only a douchebag would really be fully to defecate dies inside and then we get it it gets here at team of for this person hold too and when he gets back into the classroom her mining the blondes a friend who was like in school or wherever search stuck in a show you show you confronting him about the stuff after she finds eh the video as kind of like you were bullied to and he's like no. I was just like all of those bullets like no I wasn't but you laugh along defender you didn't stop it and and then they just Kinda got into the tussle and she starts freaking out like yelling and kind of draws attention saying like the reason show change schools is because you show you or the bully that really drew the school and he's like. I'm going to BARF and runs out because he's getting a tax sort of thing again. You've runs out wholeness now shut and and as he goes out he just leave school and goes on the self reflection thing and any ends up at the usual spot on the bridge NEC Shoko and her sister there and while he's there they're talking about an everyone else shows. Steven Universe me to bitch smashes everyone everyone's here everyone should be and undermining comes up to show you an apologizes saying like sorry. I kind of like when I just had a lot of emotions bottled open. It's kind of speed out and it bitch comes strolling loan and on our high horse thinking the. Dow Look me gotTa hear so much. There's literally no redeeming quality and she comes saying we're we're all guilty of bullying shook. Oh you guys in stop. You guys made fun of her. I'm worse now. Jeeze the worst well. Initiative is definitely the worst one they were kids she just causing a scene kind of saint everyone's socks and show you kind of snaps if he kind of goes league in a fetal position on the ground and and just kind of sense like why are you trying to bring everyone down to your level just because you know you'll never be at their level. Everyone else down like that's why everyone doesn't like. You and they're like Oh wow hey that was pretty harsh and he's like. What are you trying to defend her me? Do you run away with you. Always do whatever get tough. WHOA got about the names the one that wanted to learn Sara. Sorry Yoko Sahara yeah I I watch. It's the dubs I think we have. The names are as me yeah that's that I had Miyoko to an and like he's like her money Sadah Voice. That's why you're talking to someone who put yourself in situations that you really don't belong into scalise fucking were show yeah like what the fuck happened with you and Siemian universe comes slope like you say what you like. What are you doing like touching me. We barely even know each other like we didn't like a month ago. So why are we doing what you're my friend. It's like all right. I'm GonNa give you your space 'cause you're clearly working through soften some of the most emotionally mature thing in this movie and everyone just kind of leaves because they're just like wow way too fucking shit over party and Ronco. Hey man that was cool. He's just like what are you but do here. You're not part of our group and he's just like I fuck it. I try to help them. We'll see when I got me leaves and so he kind of just like bullies everyone else just like just a real hard on everyone at scares them all off. Shoko and her sister. There and he's like hey so What are you doing during the summer. Maybe we get paying out this one. fucking dude re to room. It's like oh boy and so shook under sister go back home and her grandma pulls. Her sister signed classes like hey. I'm worried about you like you're really wrapped up in Showbiz life like don't forget to like liver yourself and her sister's like you're doing the same thing with your learning a sign language. It's like I'm doing that for me and her sisters like I'm doing this for me like it's the same thing your kid. I got two good grandkids like you had kids and then we see she has like the circus sister has dream about going like this dead pigeon or something at freaks out and Wakes Wasabi. We see her in bed with grandma trying to come back to sleep and then it cuts to show you out dating bread. Kinda talking up. Hey she'll go how you doing planning to meter began acting like nothing happened yesterday after he just snapped at everybody and at the British. She sees her her sister in a school uniform crying further down under the bridge. He's like oh I should probably say something never mind kind of turns away alien and see at she sees him up at the bridge. CK Show you what up shit sober and school uniform trying to play trying to play it off like a normal day and he's like yeah. I saw you crying earlier. Words going on you. Don't WANNA be involved. He's like yeah not worried about you. Though you grandma see the same thing yes because it's concerning find if you wanna come along you can tag along with me is he okay and get to this gate abolished the street. She's like all right. I'll see here and kind of futile boarding school. Is that what she's in the uniform. as he shows walking away she confronting back obscured and then comes back and she says she's scared. Hoard fucking cut to grandma's funeral dizzy that happening and we see that she's in her school uniform because I'm guessing it's the most formal clothing she has so. That's why she's wearing it in the summer. It's just like oh boy. That's that's a rough game. Show you Texas show okay. Oh saying like hey you wanna go out tomorrow kind of get your mind off things and they go off. Co Train and they do to museum and they spend all day together and you get flashbacks whether kids moments like this and we see him going uphill trip and ship it goes to help him and she politized. He's the one that made her unhappy so so now he'll always be unhappy when she's around her kirk kind of saying like because you believe me when we were kids and now you're just trying to redeem yourself so now you'll be unhappy when you're around me and he's signals not truly come on. I WanNa be around you and then we did a shot of all fizz like newer friends turning their backs on him like in a kind of a date or kind interim. This was sad. This reminded me of the end a fan of the opera when he singing masquerade to himself off. I don't know if either of you have seen the I haven't heard it since I was a wee baby. Oh it's sorry some says he's doing the same thing. He's he's definitely going through another depressive episode well. There's no there's no pretending like we can just go back to the way things were be happy so down to double down and he just hangs out with. Shoko and her sister a bunch and he's like clearly forcing himself to be happy and upbeat. I feel any guilt on happy when we hang out. This is healthy healthy lifestyle L. physically and he's like Oh hey tomorrow we do. The singing like we already got plans. He's like okay. Maybe I can come along like yeah. You can come along and then which cut to them in their apartment and showcase apartment and they're making a cake. It's the month birthday so they WANNA make cake show so he was helping out. He's a yeah I'm GONNA trump bounce for your mom gets back because the last time she saw me she made me upside the face so leave your mind because of the multi thousands of dollars that I call stir. I don't know why it's fine. He could stay and as soon as the mom walks back interesting the footsie to here okay okay tha chill mom cool he can rock and they're having that they made and they're having a little birthday dinner sort of thing and sook his mom says like oh is. I submit your photos to a contest. So what do the show because idea come on. I did just somebody for fun. It's not a thing than the make plans to go out. See Fireworks Erase later 'cause it's the summer it's anime fireworks gase the main girl Yukata check so we'll be on the bigger point and and so we see them out like at the festival having snacks and stuff and having a good time in this fireworks and while they're watching the fireworks sugar sister and her mom get up uh-huh hey. Let's go get some snacks. Come on mom and he'll leave the two lovebirds alone yeah. Thanks for everybody out and started kind of his birthday and sugar. It's like she was happy. She signing and they're talking about like Oh. It was her mom's birthday. When's your birthday. Oh Man. I can't believe I missed it like just miss it a few weeks back next year. We got a plant something he's like. Oh God I'm planning next year stuff like we're a couple kind of gets nervous nervous and all of a sudden. Shuki like get something well. I gotta go. I gotta go to study but it's the sum ISSUR too key. I got a Gal now granted 'cause. It's all signed subtitles so that's just like Kinda. Don't know sidelining that you kind of what she's saying from him saying okay. I guess I'll I'll see you later and she leaves the festival to study and her sister and her mom comeback wing what happened the other. She just left us. Oh Hey do. I left my camera at home. Can you run back to our apartment and get it for me. Get into the fireworks instead Amigo back to get it yeah okay weird so it goes back to their apartment. It works just went and he goes in. He knocks and everything he's polite but he goes camera. I should make sure it's charged and as he turns he sees Shoko out on the balcony uh-huh. I wonder what she's doing out. There thought she was supposed to be studying and he sees her start climbing up on the railing of the balcony. Oh I know what's happening. He's been there there and as he do Surani does the Shoko trips a table chair and he falls over and it gets back up and we see we see the current flagging over the window and we you see her standing on the railing and then the curtain flaps over the camera pulls away she's gone yet but then we get cut him like leaving like diving over the railing hanging on and and he grabbed her by the hand at the last minute. He's still holding her and he's like trying to pull it back up like come on you. GotTa help. This is what we're doing is praying to God bodies like God if you help me out with this like I won't run away anymore. I'll start listening to other people's feelings and stuff l. SORTA looking people in the is like a turn my life around and all this stuff and he's even realize it's like I never even apologized for stuff. I did as a kid like I don't think I ever apologize for scarring here. Here's from ripping. The hearing aids out. All this shit is come on guy. You GotTa help me out L. and that you see Shuker reached back up. Its or pulling yourself up onto the balcony and ready. She's getting back over the railing. Show you like falls trips over at he falls off the railing instead so then we got shot of him falling any falls until the river we've seen earlier we see kind of blood pouring out a bit and it's just a hard cutoff sirens and lights so yeah show you fell off the balcony instead. He got his wish familiar Ed. This fad cuts to ship it. A sister like I guess in a hospital waiting room. I think this is super clear and show his mom shows up. Hi Mrs show US bomb just wanted to ask how show he was doing and all of a sudden. It's go. He's chose. Mosley seems pretty upbeat considering her sons in hospital for falling off how many stories and now he's buried. He's fine now. They took him out of the ICU in. He's in Gallatin room now like he's doing good. He's in a coma own. Yeah we find out she's really upbeat and I ah you will live just not right now right now and at the moment does mom like walks in and associates sees showing his mom she it just drives down and like based forgiveness at Super Hard and crying like I'm so sorry it's my fault. It shook his follow. It should and should show his Mobley pornography non. Stop the stopped note. Stop for for dentists isn't. It's no one's fault like it. Just it happened. He's fine. Let's move on sort of and her sisters cry I too and then we cut to we see shook an outside and just what's happening. She's getting bullied a fucking game by bitch. Who's just Yes yes. You just saw physically hitting her meeting her your reason he would never be in the situation hitting her while she's hitting her. You're shook his mom comes out and it's just bit slaps the girl across the face and then they start fighting and like I know sure because moms trying your best. She seems it hit a lot of people. I don't want knowledge that I think as soon as we are introduced to her mom. She just doesn't seem like a great person. 'cause I don't know it's not it's never made completely clear but in my mind the fact that she was like tell. Shoko this to to use you to in my mind again. It's like that. She never bothered to learn sign language so like she doesn't know how to talk to Shoko. You know what I mean so like I was just like Oh. She's a bad mom got it. I mean I think I'm not mad at her. I just think I don't see nearly enough of her to get a real idea Sushi. She's in maybe like scenes in this whole movie because we only ever see her children so excuse me beating children who have beat her child. Yeah I mean when she slept now across the face like it's what she deserves said that out loud. It's everyone in this deserves to. I'd show code needs a nothing. I have nothing against her beating her daughter. Ron Ron Anyway as she is mom comes out pulls them apart like let the doing knock it off your bitching about my son and trying to see him. AM and don't be don't be fine around my thug off and she goes to the Shoko unlike how sugar crying and apologizing profusely got Jesus what I just say. It's not apologise about my son. He's GonNa be fine and then back in their apartment. You see her sister taken out some of the photos she had like stick picture like some dead frogs or like roaches. I think maybe if there's less death brown. Sugar won't try to kill herself as his Zuroff seen. That's made me cry right. That's something that made me cry is another day. She'll try to visit show you and run. Stephen and they find out bish has been in the room the whole time and blocking. Shoko from going into visit so Shoko goes out and like talks. Stephen a bit more finding a he's a he's my true friend. I can't lose him. He's the only guy it's just like. You're a pure boy and he's like I know you'll wake up like don't worry and shocking wants to try and she says she wants to try and rebuild what was destroyed so she goes to all of their friends that like snap that and trying to rebuild all the relationships and stuff and try and bring everyone back together and then we see her waiting outside the hospital for bitch to come out and she's waiting there like multiple days in a row wral. Try to mend the fence with her but she's a bitch she won't she's walking past and then we see Shoko has a dream about Chile's suicide. I'm lost here. The stream was confusing for me. He's getting a lot okay yeah. I wasn't super clear on that. that makes more sense she wakes up search running down and she wrote the bridge where they usually meet up and she's just crying crying like he's not here and it's right when she did her what she's bringing out crying. Show your wakes up in the hospital. It just like Oh what the Fuck Oh God why live in hospital fuck this and he gets out of the bed and to serve this. This hospital's got shit as security 'cause I just won't go from Tacoma and just walked right out the where is his nurse Yeah. There should be some sort of alarm or security guard of some sort hello so he walks in the room service. He walks up to the proud of you so you know she's not here but it's because she's off to the side like crying on the Loyd a cubby area and when he gets close enough he sees her. He breaks down and cries and they have this. This moment startled is accused really here. He's awakening maybe here and conversations or didn't meet to her and he apologized for all stuff he did as as a kid and she's saying that no my phone. I was being selfish and like everyone's trying to be because of me but it's like. I'm not being better for them and and it's just this real like I'm not doing justice. I'm going to try like I am but as a conversation between the two of them saying like basically trying to say like they both heat themselves and they're like well. We got work on this because so far. We both tried to kill ourselves. Shoko doesn't deserve that at all. Nothing is your fault none. None of it's her. Oh yeah all of your friends. Everyone says I want he wants. Shoko to teach him how to live any kind of gets like for the Oh God. That's very openly embarrassing. You guys just almost idly. It's okay to be open and we see show you asleep in the car car and his mom's driving back from the hospital when he gets there. Maria watering plants offside. She's like Oh show you died and hugs sport of this movie we as well as they believe actually ducks back. She was in your bed hospital room. Every day like waiting for you to wake wake up and say oh I should talk or still bitch and she goes a little heart to heart. Anticipate says like I'm never going to like show cow. I'm always GonNa like heater her 'cause she's deaf have and there's a little rain and she says tears enough she says. What is your believe you in high school. He's the one applaud you out of the river like when he fell into Donna told you that this kind of trying to like even still repair his friendship from back that goes to see he goes back home. NC surface MOMS that are getting Erica and she's like hey show you sorry again about the whole balcony thing it's fine. Stop and let me see ads popping like I'm GonNa go pick up Maria from the playground. What what who were severely nice. Can we introduce a new character five minutes before before this movie ends Cool Yeah Okay we see him in the montage in the beginning and now and yeah so I I think they say he's like a soldier. He was deployed or something and he just came back so he goes upstairs. took a sister to go. Hey when the photo contest. I'm trying to get back to school. I won the contest. I'm bad at school. Can you help me out. Is it helps. Teachers are study and get ready to go back to school and then he sees those little stick animals that show could gave him earlier his Mama. Maria put them in the garden. He's like Oh. I guess that's what they're supposed and he means show back at school together. Thanks for being here at my school school because she doesn't go to the Simpson. Thanks for being here for me and as he wants back in the school he's Kinda getting another exciting attacking getting depressed because everyone's talking about him whispering and he's kind of get overwhelmed and handed sugar. I pulled him back. Obviously not an end like pulls a by the hand back to his classroom to help and when he opens the door everyone's like oh shoes bag in any just shuts it began overall again an and goes into the bathroom like get some catches breath in like brief and it's Stevens there and he opens the bathroom door. I'd knew you'd be alive. uh-huh and he's like my best friend and I couldn't I couldn't have gone on my only friends with any kind of brings back to reality and grounded pulling out the bathroom you see Ron and reminding there and every kind of like rekindle yeah we kind of had a thing on the bridge but like we can go past asked this and everyone's their sugars airlie talking still and we hear bitch on the silent stairwell like come walking actually got everything's game so sappy. God hears. She's like Let me guess. He's GonNa apologize like she always does. You're a moron Iran Iran and that's when shoka grabs her hand and start signing when Moron isn't sign language. It's just about it's it's. It's nice soc- Shoko kind of her her now now H. Yet she signed it wrong and Choko was like hey moron. This is how you sign more and it was a good like finding supposed to actually stands up for. It's supposed to be array deeming moment for now being like Oh. She's learning to sign. That's nice but it's like the first thing you signed to show more on so I solution and choosing Oh. That's pretty close to what you're trying to say okay yeah. I thought her hand came doesn't let me fix it but the other way you guys described it makes more sense in a better seen anyway so now that they're all like rekindle stuff they mended the bridges and all the hurt feelings show you goes on to like the fence folate courtyard of the school and seasonal stands shots of all its friends and everyone's happy and he gets all emotional up. We get another shot of like the shape of voice. Which is what the movie opened with so it's like a nice book end to the to the opening so yeah? That's that's a silent voice. He accept public people into his life God. I'm not even GONNA ask anyway so yeah. Let's let's chat. Shall we so you know how y'all felt about bitch girl that that's how I just felt about show you the entire entire movie just like we can't come back from this. I mean I can see your point of the severity of what he did. It was so bad it's irritable but is that to make the argument that no one is ever a table like there is a threshold of irritability that is right like. I do believe in redemption but I feel like number one. He was feeling ostracized because everyone was like hey you fucking suck. You bullied that deaf girl out of school and also while we're being critical of you we also notice you don't make eye contact but primarily you are a believe that we do not like or want to interact with so setting him up as the victim in the same way as the death girl is not a fair comparison. I guess and I guess I never really saw him that way. I never saw him as a victim like yeah. He was bullied but I was just stayed with fucking movie in like it all comes down to basically we wouldn't have this movie. Show yeah was any other person that would say fuck you as soon as he showed up in high school like if we're all DORK ASS losers. There's if someone who bullied you. In elementary or middle school came up to you and just out of the blue didn't say sorry or anything. It was just like hey. Let's hang out. Would your immediate first reaction be yes. I'm going to fully dive into that but I think another thing. Is that Shoko Oh is so naive like she always wanted to be his friend so like I think just like that validation from him like this is a toxic relationship like I think I think that that that validation from him of like I wanna be your friend. Now was was like hell yeah man. You know what I mean. I think she already had more of an into more of a reason to be more more accepting than if light hey I got bullied by this asshole like elementary school and I never wanted to be his friend and he wants to be friends no thanks but she had more of a a goal worship. They already had a reason to establish that also I would say I was being with show you with these guys saying like he was an asshole. He doesn't deserve to be redeemed. He deserves to be bullied like he was bowing others coon. You also make the case that that's the same as what bitch girls doing. She's like Shoko deserves to be bullied because she's different. She deserves it. It's justified defined for yourself. Why you're treating her like this so you were saying he was a bully now. He deserves to be bullied is just another justification for like. I'm just applying as is happening. I think we want to dissect it. I'm not standing by like yes. It was right of the school to lash out against him. It it was the movie sang in high school now. They are on the in even playing field. That is what I disagreed because he's ready to kill L. himself because his high school life is so terrible because of the repercussions of his actions when he was younger okay okay so it's not so much of yeah. This fucking bully deserves to be bullied. It's because this bullies bullied that does not erase race the debt that has been established by him bullying this death woman okay yeah. I guess I just saw him getting bullied as its consequences. Commodities come up was shitty harm to someone who couldn't really stand up for themselves force them out of school in cost them sixteen thousand dollars in damages and the school was like you know what you're not a good person and we're not going to hang out with you. That seems valid. full-on bullying is a little much but see. I've even when they were kids. I felt it as the reason everyone turned on him because he tried to bring everyone else down when he got trouble and they're like Oh. You were trying to get us in trouble to night. You're going to get ostracize yeah. I think there's just a lot of it. Also is like not a lot of it is that there are things tiller. It should be interpreted in your own mind. That's what it's coming down to right. Now is like we all saw subtext we all saw. These characters is different people so like while while shows like not likeable. I think that because he saw the error of his ways he's he is more redeemable than like now because she still hates. Shoko for literally. No reason you know that brings me point number two so yeah like with the establishment that bitch girl is still bitch girl outside of elementary school. It's SORTA leans into. I specifically remember. There is a Demi. Digitally Bay has a parody of the ending song for Green Book which has a great line. That's it's been stuck in my mind all day. It says perspective is a key. I'm GONNA paraphrase a little bit. I just needed to find someone more ablest this than me and that sort of what now the character was of oh now we can root for show yeah because we have someone who's even worse so he's no longer the villain. It's the person who's even worse see what you mean so establishing. Oh because because I was as a child we can overlook that because she's ablest as an adult well even then still in highschool so not even full adult okay so superbug me so much at least twice in this movie. Someone has has told Shoko hey life is hard. Sometimes you just have to deal with it. Says all of the able bodied bullies to this bullied deaf woman saying hey life sucks sometimes yeah multiple times so they really tried to hammer that point home. That life sucks sometimes as like. Hey No. You don't get to say that you person who bullied this poor defenseless child yeah everyone had the best intention but just that such like tone deafness of hey you struggle just with everyday society but me a person who has everything. I'm GonNa tell you life is hard. Sometimes you just gotTa deal with it yeah to the one person who has not been like visibly affected the most forgiving person to like Jesus Level I would argue the case. There is still There's a saying where it's like. The worst day in someone's life is still the worst day of their life. Regardless of the severity of other people's lives the worst. I S soldier has two faces much worse in comparison to the worst day of late in year old girls but it's still the worst. They live up to that point so it's hard to compare you. Don't don't WanNa make pain and suffering competition into WHO's. Had it worse but it it I think it is much more of a problem with this movie because it's it's the pain and trouble that Shoko is going through isn't flicked it upon by the characters like talking about their struggles as well. Will you have struggled for other reasons. She has struggled because of so I I do think that is a fair criticism of this movie. so it's it's interesting that there's so much subtext and maybe language barrier and miscommunication in a movie about a deaf person communicating how she feels yeah and I I will acknowledge. I am very much in the minority cuzner. The only two bad reviews I could find on rotten tomatoes of this movement really one. I agreed with I've heard some people uh not admonishing but like saying like there's a reason your name was so much more popular than like. I think I think a majority of people do say I I have heard other criticism of it so yeah but like on rotten tomatoes critic reviews is like ninety two percent positive and audiences ninety four and some of the audience were like it's too long. I only like the funny one so I just credited. Uh those things but yeah the one review it was from the village voice. Basically I agreed with it saying hey they coded oded the attack on Shoko in the classroom when they're elementary school as rape because he's like standing between her legs beating on her so like where why do I care about this kid and like I I have the same feeling like I don't care about your redemption. You don't deserve to kill yourself. Of course we're be bullied but like no one knows you you this forgiveness to to bring in another quote from a show. I like Bujak horsemen. You have to live with the shitty thing you did for the rest of your life. I'M NOT GONNA give you closure so sort of going in and being like hey I wanna be friends. Woman I tormented is putting it all on her to to keep being as forgiving as she was as an elementary school kid which she has every right to say. Hey fuck off like her entire. Your family basically did but she just happened to be the most forgiving yeah. I I agree with some of those points I think that's still would back in does not deserve redemption and it's up to because she was the victim the bullying it's up to her to determine if he deserves to be redeemed and in this situation it's based on what the writer wanted. It's not like she's a functioning person. She didn't make so. It's just it's a very scripted scenario because it is a movie. If it was a real life circumstance it'll be up to it would just be up to debate of whether she forgave him or not and that's it because it's a frame narrative. It's more debatable of like. Is this okay or not because it's so much chose to do it for her so we're also already doing long so I won't be too yeah. I'll I'll leave it there with this is a well intentioned idea but it sort of leans into you. Boys will be boys as long as there had good adult. Everything's fine and it's like that's not great yeah. I can see that case that that'll that'll. That'll do that if you want to end on more positive notes because you like now. I'm I mean I'm going to I've been. I just feel defeated like I don't know what else to say like. I I mean I liked it while I was watching. It and I think every point you made is is fair but I don't know I don't have any. I mean I'm not gonNA. I'm not gonNA spend sometime. Defending it like you were defending Iraq and again favorite anime vast majority of people agree that this is great so I I will gladly Bradley Retreat and say it wasn't for me if that's what it comes down to you on a lighter note next week the birds birthday things but we're starting up something special. We made it a year. We did a full year so we're not just doing just doing an anniversary episode. We're doing a month special when we are doing anniversary upset but it's leading into a marathon. Yeah we are where we're diving into to at least my anime origins. We're going to watch a whole mess of four kids silver our one year anniversary since next week is the official anniversary it'll just be as the celebrating but then we're going to have a whole slew of fun people joining us to talk about some questionable at. Eh so next week we're starting off is also dangerous birthday so he picked to Hugh Mu. Yeah I'm excited. I haven't seen anything of it really long time. 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Cut Like A Knife Abe Sada Pt. 2

Female Criminals

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Cut Like A Knife Abe Sada Pt. 2

"Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised. this episode includes discussions of sex. Work suicide murder mutilation and necrophilia that some people may offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen in nineteen thirties. Japan there were certain subjects. You didn't discuss sex lust female desire but when obey sada strangled her married lover in bed. Those taboos became front page news. It wasn't just the lurid details that fanned the scandalous flames. It was that the murderer was a woman willing to kill to get what she wanted and it was that she never apologized. In short she was a mystery. No one ever quite understood. Picture murderer a gangster. A thief did you picture a woman. We didn't think so society associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female every wednesday. We examined the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals. Hi i'm vanessa richardson. And you're listening to female criminals. Spotify original from podcast. You can find episodes of female criminals and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. or wherever. You listen to podcasts. Last week we met obey sada a former geisha and sex worker. Who began a passionate affair with a married man sought wanted him on to herself and decided that the only way to make that happen was to kill him and then kill herself. This week will learn what sada did to the body before fleeing the scene will follow her as she evaded authorities for two days until her fateful arrest. Then we'll hear about her sensational court case and her eventual fate. This episode is brought to you by honey nut cheerios with a happy heart powered by honey nut. Cheerios you'll have the positivity needed to be good do good and spread good beyond the breakfast table and into the day ahead cheerios. Good starts with happy hearts. This episode is brought to you by. Click up. Get more done in less time. By replacing your unorganized work apps and bringing your tasks stocks goals chats and more into a single shared workspace. Click up is here to help you crush your goals and help save you one day every week. Guaranteed clicked up his free forever. Sign up today at clip dot com slash spotify personal story of fbi agent glory starling as he returns to the field in nineteen ninety-three year after the events of the silence of the lambs. She faces inner demons and horrific predators. Now it's time to speak. The silence is over to raise. The new original series premieres thursday february eleventh at ten nine central on the s on may eighteenth nineteen thirty six thirty two year old obey sada and her lover forty two year. Old key zoe. Shida rolled around in the sheets at masayuki. The teahouse where the two lovers were staying. The two had been there on and off drinking and making love. Their relationship was only about a month old but they already felt an intense connection. At least saad i did. She was deeply in love with him in fact she was so in love with him that she wanted ishida to be completely hers but since he already had a wife saw decided the only solution was for both of them to die that way they be together always before meeting ashida at the in saada bought a knife with the express purpose of using it to kill him. The weapon was out of sight hidden away. She'd shown it to she'd already but he didn't think much of it. It was just a small carving knife after all if anything. He wanted her to use it in some erotic role. Play not as a weapon now exhausted from hours of making love. Ishita begin to get sleepy. He jokingly told sada not to strangle him and then he does off sada intended to stab him but her lover's last remark seems to have made an impression so in the early morning hours of may eighteenth. She used the silk sash of her komodo to strangle him in his sleep. As sada felty shida's body gold limp. Her hands began to tremble the reality of what she had just done settled in. She scrambled off the bed and swiped a bottle of sake left on the nightstand downing it to calm her nerves and then a wave of clarity washed over her. She would say later that she was totally at ease. As though a heavy burden had been lifted from her shoulders relieved that she had done what she believed was necessary. Saddam laid her head down on the pillow next to each shida. She thought about the next step in her plan killing herself. But at some point during those hours sada decided that she do it later. Either by hanging herself or jumping off a cliff. She wasn't ready to do it now before. We continue with sada's psychology. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist. But i have done a lot of research for the show. According to researchers catherine van warmer and shook odia murder-suicide cases almost always involve a gun. Because it's the easiest weapon to then turn on oneself if the perpetrator chooses another method to kill their victim like stabbing or strangling. Instead then quote suicide becomes much more difficult. That's because these methods are significantly harder to do to oneself both logistically and emotionally. So it's no real surprise that saad decided to put off her suicide in the wake of strangling ishida once. She came to that decision. She knew she had to leave the scene but first she wanted to take part of ishida with her sada pulled her knife out but she didn't use it to stab him instead she used it to mutilate his corpse by cutting off his penis and scrotum according to saadeh. She did this so she could keep a part of ashida close to her to quote. Take the part of him. That brought back the most vivid memories after she was done. She carefully took her lover's genitals and wrap them up in paper like a parcel then. She took the knife and carved her name into his left arm. After she drawn blood she used it to write out sada kiichi together on his left thigh and sasha kichi together forever on the nearby food thanh. None of these actions were premeditated. She only decided to do them. In the moment but to saw these seemed like obvious and ordinary steps. She saw nothing wrong or unusual with mutilating her lover's body after she was done sada got dressed in the she does undergarments and straightened up the room. Then around eight. Am holding the parcel with these cheetahs genitals. She left her. First stop was a used clothing shop where she traded in her komo for a new one there. The store clerk notice the package sada was holding and offered to wrap it up with her purchases as the woman reached out to take it saad. I yelled at her not to touch it then. Sada quickly rushed out of the store by now. She was concerned that the police may be after her so she called masaaki to see if she'd has body had been discovered one of the maids answered and made no mention of anything. Unusual relieved saadeh told her she'd be back at noon and asked that ishita not be disturbed before then he was sleeping. The made promised that wouldn't be a problem with that handled and knowing she still had some time before anyone was honor. Tail sada called goral. Oh mia her former lover and patron. She knew that as soon as broke of what she'd done he'd be looked at suspiciously for associating with her. She'd been his mistress for just over a year and even now he continued to support her financially. She told him that she needed to meet with him as soon as possible. A few hours later sada met up with omya. She immediately started to apologize. She was adamant that she had wronged him but no matter how much he pressed. She wouldn't tell him what her apology was. Actually about without any other information omi assumed that sada had taken another lover and felt guilty for it. He insisted that it didn't matter in fact he still wanted to be with her her. Civilised diagnosis earlier. That year had scared him off but now that his mistress sat across from him once again he had a change of heart. Sada apparently agreed after their meal the to retired to a private room and had sex sada later said that she slept with omya only out of obligation he had done so much for her and this was essentially her parting gift but regardless of her feelings for oh mia and his loyalty. She didn't give him any warning of what was about to become public later that afternoon. Net masaaki a made finally entered sada. Andy shida's room. It was long past noon when sada said she'd be back so the made assumed it was fine to go about her rounds but when she stepped inside she was met with a horrific scene. Ishida strangled to death with the sash. Still around his neck and his body mutilated one of the last things she saw before she ran out of the room was the blood soaked bed. The police rushed to the scene and tried to keep things under control but news quickly spread of the gruesome murder and from the second. The story hit the newspapers on may nineteenth. It was a sensation. Everyone wanted to hear about what happened at masaaki as well as all about obey sada not only had she killed her lover she'd mutilated his corpse and carve turn name into his arm with each leaked detail. The story only became more exciting. And even more importantly everyone wanted to know where the murderous was a massive search broke out for the missing woman and as word of the case spread and obey sada panic set in people saw her everywhere there were so many suspected sightings that the police were stretched thin trying to track them all down. People were so desperate to get a look at sada that there was nearly a stampede when one person claimed he'd spotted her but the actual sada was laying low. She was careful to avoid going anywhere that she'd gone before in case the police were waiting for her. She also changed kimonos again and began wearing glasses to alter her look. She decided she would go to the city of osaka and jump off a cliff on mount e coma and she planned on taking she does genitals with her to keep him close until the very end but soon she realized making the trip to osaka was too risky so instead she used a pseudonym to secure a room at the she nago in where she could hide out while saddam seemed to know that she was in trouble. She still didn't regret her actions. She felt no guilt in fact while at the in saada treated herself to a massage and ordered a beer for herself. But when that didn't work she turned her attention to finalizing her suicide plans. She felt that she had no choice now but to die at the in with her new plan figured out she penned three goodbye letters. The i was to own media. She thanked him for everything he'd done for her and apologized for any pain. She might have caused him. The second was to a friend who she thanked for her support and help over the years and the third was to ishita. She wrote him a short message. It read you who my love most even when dead you are mine. I'll be with you soon. She sealed the letter and addressed the envelope to you who are mine but sada never had a chance to go through with her plan on the evening of may nineteenth. After writing her letters she drank three beers and fell asleep. She was so exhausted. She slept all through the night and into the next afternoon. Meanwhile authorities were closing in on her police detective. Ondo matsu kitschy had been investigating all the ins in tokyo figuring. That sada was likely hiding out in one of them. He arrived at the shenanigans in on the afternoon of may twentieth and asked to look over the registration book. He quickly noticed a gender neutral name. Oh awda now intrigued. He asked the made to show him to the room so he could confirm whether the occupant was a man or a woman. The made lead matsu kitschy up to the room. He peeked into the window and saw the occupants sleeping inside. He thought it was suspicious that someone was sleeping in the middle of the afternoon so he knocked loudly on the door inside the room. Sada startled awake and saw the figures outside her window with a sinking realization. She knew that she had been found but instead of trying to flee thirty two year old sod collected herself and then answered the door with little preamble. She reportedly said. I'm the albay sada you are looking for. According to the maid who accompanied matsu kitschy changed into different clothes and did her makeup then when she was ready with e. sheet as wrapped genitals in hand. They lead her away from the in and to police headquarters by then sada had a smile on her face and a whole new plan in mind. She may have gotten caught but she had every intention of being reunited with these shida. Very soon up. Next sada tells the police everything. Hi vanessa from podcast. They say there's someone for everyone a soul to share your secrets with a companion to grow old with a conspirator to commit crimes with starting this february on spotify learn about the lethal and legendary lovers. Who fought the law in the park has limited series criminal couples. If you've ever referred to your best friend or beloved as your partner in crime this exclusive series is for you beginning february. I join me for a collection of unlawful love. Stories from shows across the podcast network. Discover the extreme beliefs of cult leaders. Tony and susan. Alamo enter fred and rose. West's real life house of horrors and experience the madness and motives of the san francisco which killers fall for the most famous and feared pairs history in the spotify original from podcast criminal. Couples enjoy two part episodes every monday. Starting february i follow criminal couples. Free and exclusively on spotify. This episode is brought to you by honey nut cheerios. No matter which side of the bed you wake up on a bowl of cheerios for breakfast can give you the opportunity to start your morning on a positive note made with whole brain oats and a touch of honey. Your whole family will love. They're great way. Start your day with a smile so be good do good and spread good beyond the breakfast table and into the day ahead. Cheerios good starts with happy hearts. Now back to the story on may eighteenth nineteen thirty six thirty two year old. Obey sada murdered. Her lover mutilated his corpse and fled the scene for two days. She managed to evade the authorities until may twentieth when detectives found her hiding out at a tokyo in and arrested her. The police took her to the metropolitan police headquarters. But they weren't in any serious rush to interrogator instead. They kept her in a holding cell while they gathered evidence. Sada mostly slept for the better part of three days when she was awake. She wasn't too happy with her new surroundings though. She was still allowed. Some amenities like sweets and flowers to decorate her cell on one of those three nights. Sada talked through her cell bars to the guard on duty. She told him that she hoped they executed her. And that it would happen quickly. It would be better that way. This was partly why sada had been so cooperative. When the police showed up at her room at the end she anticipated the death. Penalty welcomed even. She hadn't been able to escape tokyo and follow through with her suicide plan but now she figured she could just let the government handle things soon. She'd be dead and reunited with her lover. Finally detectives brought sada in for her. First round of interogations. They were immediately thrown off. They were expecting a demure regretful. Woman someone who even claimed insanity but instead saad. I informed them that she didn't regret a thing. She had no intention of claiming she was innocent. That would go against her. One goal to be found guilty and given the death penalty so that she could see her initial plan through so she spilled everything. Her thoughts her motivations her methods. She explained in detail why she had killed his shida as she told the police. It was to make sure that no other woman would ever touch him again. But even after revealing her motive. The police still couldn't understand it to them. It didn't seem to make sense for a woman to commit premeditated murder. It left them speechless now. If she'd acted in a moment of passion that would make sense but sada refuse to allow them to manipulate her words. She hadn't killed for revenge or jealousy nor was she insane and she hadn't done those things to each sheet as corpse to mutilate him. She simply taken his genitals to remain close to him until they could be reunited and she maintained that the carved and bloody writing on his body was a sort of a love letter to sada. These were all gestures of love. Not cruelty still. She knew how it looked to the outside. Which is why she expected. She'd get the death penalty between the mutilation and the prominence of the case. The government would likely wanna make an example out of her and this case was prominent the details. Were so wild. That people couldn't help but be fascinated. Not only. was this gory murder. But the perpetrator was a petite beautiful young woman. Who had once been a geisha. It had all the marks of a sensational story and in nineteen thirty. Six japan was in the throes of serious political turmoil. Any distraction was welcome so as the case grew in popularity rumors and wild suggestions about sada's background flu. Reporters dug into her childhood searching for dirt and trying to find an explanation for how a woman could do something so terrible. The police did their part as well. They interviewed whoever they could find who had known sada throughout her life until finally on june tenth nineteen thirty six about three weeks after the murder detectives decided they had enough to indict her for murder and mutilation newspapers blasted the indictment across the country. Some even quoted sada who said that. She didn't believe she had done anything wrong. And her fervent wish for execution. According to law scholar john h bloom in rare instances canals factor the death penalty into their murder-suicide plots. In words they kill in order to be executed. According to blum being indirect or passive about the termination of one's existence is still acting suicidal. Initially sada intended to carry out both acts herself but the discovery of his sheet is body threw a wrench in her plans so she did the next best thing. She basically volunteered for the death penalty. She refused to tell the police what they wanted to hear and didn't fight the charges by telling the truth and then doing nothing. She was helping along the process of getting to her deaf for six months. The prosecution assembled its case against her while saad a waited patiently in a cell until finally the first day of the trial arrived on november twenty fifth nineteen thirty. Six sada was escorted into the courtroom in japan. Trial by jury is not an option in criminal cases. For sada's trial three judges led by judge. Ho soya would hear the case and decide her fate. But sada wasn't worried. She expected only one outcome to hasten things along she even try to get rid of her attorney and do away with any kind of defense but for one reason or another when she got to trial she had council. It seemed that no one would allow her to make such a decision for herself during the trial. The prosecution's argument was pretty straightforward. Or at least it should have been after all. They had a perpetrator who had confessed to everything. But the judges and even sada's lawyer couldn't fathom how a woman could do what she did and be of sound mind. The prosecution argued that sada had committed premeditated murder in a clear conscious and sane state even though sada's specifically told her attorney that she was guilty and didn't wanna defense he claimed sada was indeed insane. In fact the physician who examined sadat concluded that she showed characteristics of hysteria. A now antiquated and made up diagnosis. Given to any woman who acted outside of social norms the concept of hysteria stretches back to antiquity and was mostly attributed to the presence of a uterus wholesale soya quoted the physicians report to justify his and the other judges belief that sada had been temporarily overcome by insanity likely caused by her own sexual organs. That sada had kildee shida in a moment of womanly mental weakness. For the sake of the country both sides wanted to make it clear that saddam was an exception to the rule and that no woman was really and truly capable of cold blooded murder. The lucky few who've gotten a seat in the courtroom listened with rapt attention. This was better than any newspaper article. They were hearing details. That had never made it into print but judge whole soya and the other judges had a problem at the time. Japan had strict censorship laws that forbade any public discussion of sex but the judges were required by law to quote. Discuss the specifics of the case. In setting open to the press and observers. Which meant they had to be. Very careful also tried to use euphemisms for certain words like extremity instead of penis but still everyone knew what was being talked about. He took note of every giggle and hushed whisper and he worried his courtroom was being made into a joke so when it came time to discuss the details of the murder itself. He made the decision to clear the courtroom for a closed door session. He argued that. The crime's gruesome nature was reason enough to bar the public from listening. In despite all the hullabaloo sodas trial was really just a formality. No one not even sada denied her guilt. So no one was surprised. When the panel of judges found her guilty of murder and mutilation what everyone really wanted to know was what her sentence would be on december eighth nineteen thirty six sada return to the courtroom for sentencing and made a statement to the court. It was her final attempt to make everyone understand her. She told them the thing i regret. Most about this incident is that i have come to be misunderstood as some kind of sexual pervert. There had never been a man in my life like ishida. There were men. I liked and with whom i slept without accepting money but none made me feel the way i did toward him. After that sada sat back down in her seat resigned to her fate even when faced with prison or possibly death. Sada refused to show any remorse given her crimes. Some members of the public called for the death penalty others argued for leniency. In there is she was a woman and therefore couldn't really be held accountable in the end. The prosecution only asked for ten years Sada was shocked. That wasn't what she wanted it all and she would have never imagined such a light sentence for a crime like hers now. Her only hope was that the judges might overrule the prosecution and give her the harsh sentence she'd been counting on but that wasn't to be on december twenty first nineteen thirty six. Three judges agreed. That sada wouldn't get ten years. She'd get only six. All three believed that sada had suffered from some sort of mental weakness at the time of the crime and could not be held fully responsible. Interestingly judge ho soya also found ishida somewhat at fault in strange show of victim blaming ho. Soya argued that he shida should have known better than to joke with sada about being strangled. He believed that he had played right into sada's hands and that he should have done something to stop her earlier but regardless saddam wasn't pleased insisted that she was guilty that she deserved the death penalty and yet the court decided that she was little more than a hysterical woman who couldn't be held responsible for her actions. She was going to prison and then in six short years she would be free. It was the worst possible outcome up. Next sada's life behind bars and the legacy of her crime people strive for personal transformation even metamorphosis. 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At daily harvest dot com daily harvest dot com now back to the story after arresting obey. Saad i in may nineteen thirty. Six police interrogated the thirty two year. Old sex worker for four weeks sada. I eventually stood trial and was found guilty which everyone expected. But she was handed and extremely lenient sentence. Only six years in jail sada was devastated in december nineteen thirty six. She was sent to toe cheeky women's penitentiary where she was stripped of her name from that point on she was only prisoner number. Eleven at i saw was miserable. She had none of the luxuries. She was accustomed to as a well paid sex worker on mistress once again. She was back in a place with strict rules. She felt trapped but eventually she came to accept her sentence and she stopped thinking about suicide at some point early in her prison sentence. She decided that she would actually continue her life as quote a living memorial to ishida with this new epiphany came a swell of relief and happiness. It was such a severe shift that even the guards took notice of her new attitude. But it didn't last for long on. The anniversary of each sheet is murder. A buddhist nun visited thirty-three-year-old sada as she performed a service in the she does memory. The none implored saad to take her face more seriously. After the woman left saad went into an emotional spiral for days on end. She cried in her cell refused food and could barely manage the daily labor required of the prisoners thoughts of suicide returned. She started to fantasize about ways to end her life so she could be with her lover as the summer. went on. sada's attitude worsened. She alternated between bouts of tears and fits of rage. One time she got so angry she cut off most of her hair. Another time during inspection rounds saadeh took a bucket of dirty water and poured it over a guard. Saadeh said the guard hadn't done anything to draw her. I r- sada quote simply wanted to do something bad. It was an impulsive act. Meant to draw attention in study by researcher jesse mayors and his colleagues he found that even temporary stints in prison can have serious effects on people's personalities in short as three months prisoners became more impulsive and their attentional control weakened. Sada may have had some rebellious teenage years. But for most of her adult life. She'd been careful and controlled woman in prison. All of that. Self discipline deteriorated. She was reduced to most immature self acting out because she felt helpless and had no other options. But the prison guards didn't tolerate this kind of behavior so sada was thrown into solitary confinement. Where guards put restraints on her wrists and hide them behind her back. They left her like that for a day. Then the buddhist nun returned to see her. This time sato was much more receptive to what the woman had to say. The non persuaded her to see the error of her ways and embrace religion. Everything changed after that meeting for the next three years sada practiced by them. She didn't cause any more trouble and she never thought about killing herself again. Then in may nineteen forty one. Nearly five years to the day of his sheet is murder. Something completely unexpected happened. A guard came to sada's cell and told her to collect her things. She was to be released. Sada sentence had been commuted one year early. This was due to a large round of pardons that came down. As part of japan's mythical founding celebration just the november before sada followed the guard absolutely elated. This wasn't the same sada who had so desperately wanted to end her life to be with a lover now. She was a woman who desired to live. And who is excited about the future. The guard brought sada to a small room where her older sister waited for her. She held sada out of her prison attire. And in two komono sada ran her hands along the silk fabric. She barely remember the last time. She touched silk. She could almost cry. At how soft. It was when sada left the prison that night. She was informed that the police had set up an identity protection program for her. She was simply too well known if she went back into the world using her real name. She would never have a moment of privacy. Let alone get a job. And be a functioning member of society so they assigned her pseudonym and gave her the proper identification to enable of fresh start from then on she would be yoshi masa coal but even with the polices help sada struggled to remain anonymous. After leaving prison. She got a job as a maid for a wealthy family but somehow they discovered her real identity and fired her right away. They couldn't have someone like her in their house. So sada was back to square one. Unfortunately saad does skills were very specific to one industry sex work but she was determined that that was behind her now. She tried hard to find other work but no one wanted a single woman with no education or work history then sada meta man who she only ever reference to as why he was a serious businessman. Any asked her to be his mistress sada hesitated. She didn't wanna fall back into this line of work. She thought about what the buddhist nun might think. Surely she wouldn't approve. Perhaps more importantly it felt like a total betrayal of his shida for her to be with another man. But i didn't have any other options so she agreed. Sada planned on keeping a low profile in tokyo but japan was in the middle of a war and that made things difficult at one point. The city was evacuated and both sada and why were sent to live in the countryside in her teenage years sada head hated the countryside but now as a woman in her late thirties she loved it. She found it peaceful and simple. She worked in the fields dressed in casual clothes and spent her days befriending the country folk to her relief. She was finally anonymous. If she'd had her way she would have stayed there for the rest of her days but why wanted to move back to tokyo and as soon as it was allowed they did as sada sat on the train and watched the countryside fade into the distance all. She could think that she was making a big mistake. It turned out. Sada was right soon after returning to tokyo with y and then relocating with him to a small village his family discovered her true identity. They pressured why to end things with sod off for the sake of their families reputation and sure enough he did. It just wasn't worth the risk to be with her soon. After the break-up sada began using her real name again her pseudonym wasn't doing much to protect her. It seemed that no matter what the truth always caught up with her. And if that was the case then sada. I wanted the power to defend her name. She started fighting back in the years since her arrest many books and articles had come out about her which she felt didn't portray her accurately so she even sued a writer for libel and slander. She made a little money off of the settlement but not enough to live on. Eventually she decided to go back to waitressing by nineteen fifty to forty eight year. Old saw was working in a tokyo. Restaurant bar called host shaky gu sui her employers were well aware of who she was and even encouraged sada to embrace her name. Her presence drew in large crowds of new customers. All of whom wanted to meet the dangerous. Obey sada at ho- shaky who sui saad a learned how to turn her name from a liability to win. Asset and in nineteen sixty. Seven sheet earned enough money to open her own restaurant called. Walk talk for nearly three years. The restaurant was a great success. Finally sada was doing with omi had always envisioned for her and she absolutely loved it. But then saad i met a young man who convinced her to go into business with him. Unfortunately he was just using her. He stole her savings leaving sada with absolutely nothing so in nineteen seventy only three years after its opening. She had to close. Walk a talk. Six months after that saad disappeared never to be seen again. Plenty of people tried to find out what happened. Her reporters were determined to get this final scoop. Some thought she died from illness others that she became a buddhist nun. There was also speculation that sought off finally completed suicide just as she had promised all those years ago but try as they might. The reporters leads always hit a dead end. No one ever found out what actually happened to sada and that was probably just how she wanted it. The public had never been able to accept or understand her the way she had hoped anyway. So for the final stretch of her life sada stopped trying to explain herself. And just let go. Thanks again for tuning into female criminals. We'll be back next week with a new episode. For more information on obey sada amongst the many sources we used we found. Geisha harlot strangler star by william johnston extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of female criminals and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. We'll see next time. Female criminals is a spotify original from cast. It is executive produced by max cutler. Sound designed by dick schroeder with production assistance by ron shapiro. Carleen madden and aaron larson. This episode of female criminals was written by alex burns with writing assistance by joanna. Philbin and joel callan fact checking by adriana romero and research by mickey taylor. I'm vanessa richardson. Hi it's vanessa again before you go. Don't forget to check out the new podcast. 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AMN Anime News #2

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AMN Anime News #2

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I've met so many amazing people so many talented people not only being able to express my love for anime and Manga, as well as meet tons and tons of fans from different countries and different backgrounds who love anime as much as I do. So. If you're always wanted to start a podcast, make money and doing it go to Anchor FM. START ANCHOR DOT FM slash start to join me and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor. THAT'S ANCHOR DOT FM START? I. Can't wait to hear your podcast So today on am an anime news. Did you. Final movie of the nineties season as tying autumn on. Finally Burton Paul. Also, networks making news to broadcast seven deadly sins, and we are going to be looking at some of the weekly anime releases for you and tell you what we think is some of the best. anime that you should be looking at all this more. In this episode of a an enemy news staging. anime film digitally and on home video this fall to animation will release the film digitally on Amazon Prime Video Items Microsoft Ecclesia. Network on September. Now shout factory will the ship be enemy DVD BLU ray disc pack on. Six. With. Both be which subtitles and English the. Now. Three also revealed the English dub cast Joshua Seth as tie coma, Nicholas Roy as Matt. Ishida. Jonah Johnny Young. As Tk. Toshiki. Kaifu pitcher these names I do apologize. Tara Sands. As Corey COSMI. Mono- Marshall as Izumi Robbie Damon as Joe Kitto. armadillo on as well. Coleen. Sake. Viscous. Lean. As Super. Has Very Long last name Katie again as Mimi Papua. And Got Erica. Minna Wa an. Elegy. God and many more. Shot will. Initially plan to release their DVD ON. July seventh they wanted to get about early but again. They were delayed due to production delays. So wasn't the Cremona versus time they were the late just because of production. So The faith batum at events in toy animation have planned to screen the film with English subtitles in select theaters in the united. States on March twenty fifth. But postponed the screening to health and safety concerns related to the spread of Corona. Virus So. Unfortunately once again, coronavirus snuck in there we had a little bit of hope. So the film ranked. Six in it's opening weekend. and. This is sort of the premise of the story for those of you who don't know. Tie is now a university student living alone working hard at school. And working every day. But with his future still undecided. Meanwhile Matt and the others continue to work on digital on incidents and activities that go people with their partner busy. An UN- proceeded phenomenon occurs and Justin discovered that when you grow up with your relationship with your partner, did you want will come closer to an end? As the countdown timer activates on the digitize they realize the more you fight with their partner. The part, the fight we dig your partner, John Faster the fine breaks will you fight for others and lose your partner time to choose and decide it's approaching fast the short time before the chosen children will become adults and this is the last adventure of tie inaugural. So I wanNA reference a movie. and. It was the chronicles of Narnia. I don't know what's the second one or third one but. In. The current movie. That was I, think the final movie. The Lion told them if they could no longer be in Narnia because they were too old to older they needed young children because young children had. Full of hope, adults lose that hope as we get older so. That makes sense I mean that gives an opportunity for new digital. To arise and we can get to see. A new team or we can. Continue down the established line and see. The season two digit in and see them become high schoolers and how they become. You know more older kids. So I think that's really good I. Think it's finally time to put these characters to rats. On. But then again, it's kind of contradicts the new. Reboot of digital. I think that what they're trying to do is they're trying to end the nineties version of the tomb on they're trying to end that series and in the redoing it for the new audience to give this two thousand twenty generation. Zumur. Generation their version of Islam so. If you guys are confused as to why there are two, did you want the same characters? The new. Is for, this generation, this current generation. This last movies for us but the kids in the nineties, the kids who grew up with. Mummies alive and ill Hema Nassar's universe. which was still running at the time. Those of us who is still watching legends the Hindu temple. This is our. Final Curtain Paul for us and. Who knows I mean? This this I think this is good ending to it. I can't wait to see the movie and see what they do with and I think it is time to finally put these guys to rest. But that's it for me and stay tuned for more anime news on am an anime news. So the Manga and anime. Cow and Pineau is getting a live action movie. So. This story involves a girl named Katie who picks up a dinosaur and begins living with it in her room. The Dancer Human Food Watch TV in even enjoys being fashionable. So this is A. Thing that's going to be happening in October third now, they did have it. They didn't want to have it. A little bit earlier, but they had delayed due to be corona virus. So They recently let the enemy premiere on. April fourth. Delayed episodes due to corona virus as well. I'm so they have now continued on with the season in Japan. Now the Senate episode. Was Aired on May, sixteenth and? It's going to be streaming on funding nation. In US Canada and United Kingdom and Ireland. So this is. Something different I mean. We've seen a lot of things that with live action and. I don't think this is going to be bad I think it's much better when you do more simple stories, something that's a little bit more goodhearted. I think they need more time to get the cash together with action stories. But. I think this will be good thing. Good test run to see where they how far they've come had the. With their storytelling have they been able to adapt the the anime into a live action movie? Or they going to be using the mangams resource. So a whole bunch of questions that I can't wait to see in October when it finally comes out. So October looking like a very, very exciting month for anime and anime fans. You have the new Demaci three coming out and you have a live action movie that will be coming on immigration. So now starting to make some moves in was kind of worried wondering when they were going to do something I mean had critical making moves Netflix's just. Rocket blasting in the lead, but all these new anime and. Here finally, function decides to make a final move so. Hopefully this will bring them in as we. Approach closer into the fall and as sports starts to slowly come back in a big crowd to keep people's attention But yeah, a very exciting thing and you guys stay here for more news on Amen Anime News. Stay tuned. So. Here's a quick news article for you. Flick streams the seven deadly sins, imperial breath of the Gods. In August six so This season of seventy centers will be stream on August sixth on Net flicks. NETFLIX's really stepping up their game. They have been streaming old new and something in between with the live action stuff really stepping up netflix's definitely trying to make themselves the king of anime and. You know we only seen so far in this episode that WanNa may only out maybe one. Anime so they have to step up their game crunchy roles still has their high guardian spice animated. They haven't been getting out lately but enough about them. So this particular season of seven sins is a different story or a continuation of of the other ones and the permits goes that seven deadly sins have save the Kingdom of loan lioness from the invading demons have camelot is still under the occupation of the ten commandments and the sins are scattered. Meanwhile, the fairy King Forest King and Diane Start to learn the truth about the previous war three thousand years ago so. For those of you who didn't get to see it or get to see. This will definitely be. A really really good chance for you, guys. To be able to see. And understand what's going on. Or if you want to get into the sea reason kind of watched the first season. Come back watching this one now. I think they also the original season up. So Definitely, check. In that way you to remember that. Since imperial rattle of the Gods will be coming on. It's GONNA be coming on. The. August. So. Look see what's going to be happening with the seventieth. And Hello Everyone this segment in particular is going to be for both on an men anime and Manga. News? This is a very hard article on when it happened. It was kind of where we're kind of finishing up last week's episode for Manga, we did not expect. To be happening. So sudden and Unfortunately for those who don't know or Farner form. We don't know if this these two episodes will be coming out later or. Or earlier but if you don't know Japanese actor. Hari. Nira who is a character in the live action? Attack on. Titan. Adaptation has died. Bizarre Day. It has been expected of suicide. His body was found at his home in Tokyo. He's was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital he was. Thirty. Years Old. It is. It is really a sad thing to. Talk about these things because you know we want to really. Enjoy Manga and anime, but these things happen And I know there are a lot of detractors might say, Hey, why do you guys gear about this guy? Never cared about this guy, you know when he was alive. So why do you get out of bed? And I think that's the fact of we're. Is Dead now. When we have people in our lives and we know that they're alive and we know that they're not gonna go anywhere. We generally don't pay attention to it but that's the problem we've don't that. We don't know what was going on in in mister mind we don't know if he was just. The the pressure of being in. A live action actor was too much. Maybe US dealing with trauma we don't know and. You know my condolences to his family and friends and. Loved ones. And? I think that. It's important for us to really. Talk to one another about what we're thinking and our feeling. And it's a very difficult thing when you are having all these thoughts in your head, you're having all these. Negative feelings don't know how to deal with. It can lead someone to. Do, crazy, and even berry costly things and. Unfortunately. Eight lead. This is. Mr Roy, out to. Take his own life. There has been rumors that the enemy industry does a lot of the things that the video game industry dies with Crime Chino which they're actors and. Or. Pushing their employees to the brink of exhaustion. I don't know if that was the reason could be expected but whatever the reason why is No one. No one should have to push to a limit where there were. They think that killing themselves is the. The best thing. Is. Very hard for us to talk about bits because. We didn't know wanting to talk about this. We know from wanted to broadcast this but we we we all agreed that it should be broadcast if you know someone. Whether they're an anime fan of the game, the fan wrestling fan whomever it may be. If you know someone who is struggling and they're thinking about taking their life. Please please. Please taught them. To make sure that you. You're there for them in show the Matt of. That there is so much more. There is a suicide prevention hotline. Guys have to use it you guys have to. Ease it if you're feeling that. That urged to. Take Your Life. And the number for that is one, eight, hundred, two, seven, three. Eight to fifty five is the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline? And again, that number. One eight hundred. Seven three eight to fifty five. And Every life is precious. Every life is meaningful. And I know sometimes with the coronavirus that. Being in house all day can be very very taxing on the mind. It could be very, very annoying where you wanna go outside he want to run around wanted these things. because. There's something there. Talk to one another. Charter. Zoom with each other. Because you know that just talking to someone really prevent them. From taking their life and Just. We, we have to do our part. So. Thank you guys for listening. For An anime and Manga News. And also you guys next week.

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Where Wealthy Kelly Loeffler Puts Her Money, Formaldehyde in Brazilian Blowout, Female Non-Regular Workers in Japan

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Where Wealthy Kelly Loeffler Puts Her Money, Formaldehyde in Brazilian Blowout, Female Non-Regular Workers in Japan

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Attitudes that's head space dot com slash attitudes for free one-month trial with access to head spaces full library meditations for every situation. This is the best deal offer right now. Supplies head to head space dot com slash attitudes today high homosexual bryan safi. And i'm nasty aaron gibson and this is attitudes. Lgbt plus issues women's issues pop culture. No it's christmas and to get on a high. Can you handle it. I just listen. I tell me tell me i decided i need to send gifts. Because i can't see anybody in person. What are the ethical dilemmas and sending a delivery person. I mean it's all contact list but it's like there's so much to consider like how do i get my presence to my people get you. Just go to the company you want to buy from and then just do ship it You know yeah okay are used to travel it sound easy and i thought i've sensitive stuff out already. In fact i think everything is out in the mail now. Oh speaking of by the way yes. Did you ever get my birthday present. How have we not talked about. Thus erin got me from. I can't believe. I'm so embarrassed. That i did not immediately call you and thank you and dropped my job because you did the fucking work this year you did the war it was a long con- what i tell me your process or should i tell them monica i or tell me your process. Okay let me tell you. The i'm going to give you vague. I'm gonna give july thirtieth. So that's but true. I sent it late late almost so nobody's in the right here. Nobody did anything right including me. Okay i have been brainwashed by you. Thank you to remember things in my brain so basically you talk so much about certain topics. Now when i go places. And i see things like nafta nato called. I always think of annie. Yes my great aunt. Annie rag in laundry. Yeah just hiding yeah. This was an example of that. So i go to a lot of estate sales. Because i collected people think sure a lot of people like to estate sales because got fantastic. You get i call myself a junk rat. Like i like to go get a deal. You know what i mean. Yeah so i call myself a mall rat you know i. I still go to malls to stay. Yesterday i went going later right inside. I walk. I broke to right inside. That's what i did. And i said honey. Nothing's gonna keep me away from this small even if every single damn store is closed. I'll wait and the fountain. I don't care the right by citibank. catch me. catch me if you can. If you can with a cinnabon. Both both hands catch-me-if-you-can else's here police chase me with my cinnabar's in my hand and the nerve of that company to never make anything i'll hundred percent through. They were not honestly. I couldn't agree more. And i would say there would be like little. Stodgy in the center. It's undercooked yup. It's it's not. It's not bake soggy bottoms. Total not worth the calories. Now worth the calories puerta shame. Brexit are are you kidding me Her her her one of her sons is like a conservative. Mp but it doesn't mean she is no she has she's like she's a brexit or i went down i could someone who is a walking calder mobile. Be a breakfast. That's dosen of a human being. Yes i don't. I don't i really the only explanation. I have is old too old to know better or be better rights. I don't know. I mean i don't wanna be agencies eighties. There's tons of people who but like this thing with eric. Clapton just came out. Didn't just come out. But then it resurfaced leaving about well. He basically like in a concert in the seventies. This is after he covered. I shot the sheriff said. Raise your hand or someday this is. I'm paraphrasing but it was something like at a concert. He was like clap. If you're from britain and then he was like if you didn't clap. I want you out of the country. Jamaicans africans o. He like went down a fucking list. And i guess he apologized but it came back because and van morrison wrote a a an anti coma. Gration basically covy. I get out of here like like so many problems about being stuck in your house your fucking mansions which you know. What's great for me. I hate both their music. So fucking much brown. Eyed girl is the most derivative song in the entire world. If you sing it to your daughter's like honestly like give up your paternity rights because also what was it. Moon dancing or moon dancer. Whatever the hell that other you know what. Let's tom jones. If you're gonna listen to somebody who snuck guy. There's nothing worse than a conservative hippie. Oh what can you things and a guy who has the nerve to to i mean. Look bob marley was problematic and homophobic. But he was black man and eric. Clapton is taking his music. And and what are you about jamaicans. Get he literally said jamaicans leave. It's like bitch. are you belong. That's could gross. Oh my god. No i mean honestly it is truly one of the problems with people who are covert deniers especially rudy. Giuliani was in the hospital. It's like they need to die honestly. I'm sorry or being a homa do something. Okay okay what i state sale. Alex and i saw this thing. And i freaked out because it was okay. It was so rare brandon. Because i was going to my friend. This is pre code. That's how long ago. I've had this thing. I was going to my friend's baby shower and in glendale and i was like. Oh there's an estate sale stop by real quick. Let's see what they've got. It was a weird place there are. I don't doubt it was a weird place. This was a fully put together. Nineteen fifties child's bedroom like like act preserved. Everything else in the house. So creepy was different decades like as far as like what decorated in. But this was like honestly almost like what i would associate with in fiction. You would write this as like you. Open the store at super creepy. And it's like why is this nineteen fifties bedroom here and it's like well. I had a three year old and then she died but preserved her room. That's what it felt like. That's where i got your birthday present. No all of it. But the one that matt the thing that mattered the other stuff i did also get it estate sales but they were people with a little more taste this okay now. You can talk about it that that was the preface. Aaron gave me a book of memories. Poetry style class elegance fine. You know what i'm gonna. I'm gonna read excerpts of them. Next week i'll on the show. We'll have you thumb. come through it. of course it's pictures and everything it's gone though. It is gone. Sow aaron got me. A book of shirley temple fairytales essentially it is a book where shirley temple. I doubt she wrote it to be honest with you. Do you think she did know. But it's everything i could ever want. So far she's really talked about her experiences with the dollhouse and how mother told her she should live in the living the main house. That hasn't come up but honey. It is on my office ottoman always and it looks honestly it looks like like truly anyone it thank god. It's covered because anyone else who would walk in the didn't know that would be like what the fuck is with this guy. He reads like shirley temple fiction. You know i do stories by shirley as you probably like fifteen sixteen around or younger. Maybe you ought to be doing stories you get the wholesome twins were still doing like brother for sale videos. Exactly that's what this was. It was like she was hanging onto the youth or who were how well the old definitely that a catfish picture for sure. Have absolutely you think you're getting into the mind of like a little girl and her charm and like the story she likes to gel and then like the more you go through it. You're like ishida high school. Meanwhile she's like proofreading and smoking cigarettes and having full coffee already ready. Oh she's already trying to be an ambassador she's planning it all out. At that age it was to change your name. It was couldn't wait. It was the number one best birthday present. I've ever gotten in my life and a so thoughtful one of those things where i was like. How the fuck did she find us. Hockey like eagle eye at all these places going. I know there's going to be something great for brian at one of these things. I just need to keep an eye out to go. You even think you can go get. I wouldn't get because you didn't think it would be even exist way. What were the records. I found to. I guess you. Anne you sent me anne you sent me. I can go get them now. I'm having a semi anti stunner. Summers donna. Summer and there was one other. What was it. I feel like it was another disco one diana. Maybe it wasn't my record. Plays players broke getting a new one. I haven't listened to them yet. Is it a vintage record player. Now like a bullshit. Crossley real with barbra streisand in the guy from the bj's yes yes yes by a stunning gift collection and by the way any record by the way it makes you wonder about six years old. I literally by the way. I had the record. You not the cassette. The record long gone but i had it when i was kid. Szeswith anne i had a dollar for added. Sandy the dog. Do you remember how good she wasn't that movie. So good. don't tell you don't tell jokes. He hates her hates her. Why did he meet her something. He said she was godawful and remember what else he said. Child actor actor. She's fantastic. But also i'll say this i'll say this nancy kerrigan and that movie. Nope yeah character. That movies mishandling. It was the first character. I was genuinely. Afraid would come still in the night. Yes and it's one of those movies you watch like. She's fucking hilarious. Like this so brilliant and so smart but when your kid you don't see the funny parts you just like i'm so scared of this drunk lady and listen like a good like i have. Nothing personally against cameron diaz i. She's a fine person but like at a certain point like don't touch perfection. It's like we used to said about that. Which is it's like about. Which is she was like. Why you why would you even try. Yeah so aaron. Thank you for my birthday gift. You're so welcome. I don't think i'm gonna be able to top it christmas but i just. I want you to know that. I will be on the lookout on the look out at all times. All right okay And i don't think you should take it personally that a lot of the stuff that i get you. That's really good and fits. Your taste is from people who've died who are too old to lie. I am nothing if not an eighty year old at heart. I don't like kids or people. I like to stay in like it to be quiet tag soft foods. I like soft foods. I like old movies. And i like birds. 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Magic spoon is so confident in their product is back with a hundred percent happiness guarantee. So if you don't like it for any reason they'll refund your money. No questions asked. There's magic spoon dot com slash eight and use offer code shade. It for free shipping. Thanks magic spoon for sponsoring the podcast. Today i would like to talk about some one reg which is just my style rich rich. Anybody rich has never been more true. Erin jim i know this. I didn't know this. The kelly lawler is super fucking goddamn rich. Yeah eight hundred. Million dollar swelled. That's why she bought the. That's that was one of the reasons she brought that. Wnba team to atlanta. 'cause she had so much money to share the money to do it eight hundred million dollars in congress but are you need it. I guess she and her husband first of all. I guess there's a lot. I don't know about her other than obviously rob wore. Knock is like my got. That's obviously obviously. I'm supporting i know. She's a big trump supporter. And obviously i also know that. She's been election results. Denier and a liar but i totally anti black lives matter. Despite the fact completely we talked about in the show just the wnba heartbreaking to have a female owner. Do something back stab you in that kind of way. Are you also today. The should have a racist bone in your body right. Yeah i don't even yeah but then awesome. Yeah just she's made up something else. She's a jellyfish lady absolutely. She's getting away on that on a technicality. So i didn't know this. Kelly l'affaire obviously senator from georgia who's in a runoff with his warnock. Who we want to win She was one of these people who did receive an early briefing. On what the potential effects of the corona's corona virus would be the fall out of the coronavirus before it hit here and she dumped a bunch of stock positions and allowed herself to just avoid massive massive losses. She was one of those people so she got rid of twenty million dollars of shares between january and march. Which isn't the same thing that the guy running against john asaf did to yes. Oh these people get rich off. High crimes not only high crabs of literally make money off the fact that the economy's about to tank because of a pandemic because of something that's going to kill hundreds of thousands of people. it's absolutely despicable. Maybe speaking you've technicalities. I don't know how she gets around that. I don't know how they just seem to and i don't know if she somehow protected because she's in the senate but i doubt it i mean people have been isn't it. The first thing you're not supposed to do is take go inside information and then and then affect your personnel. Maybe it's maybe it's not illegal. No 'cause that's basically being lobbyists but this is something different. This is different. Like even the good guys take deals like nancy. Pelosi is worth many millions and not all above all legal but not all above board all these people not all of them but a lot of them even the good guys quote unquote take money from where they shouldn't. Oh it's really hard to get rich if you're not doing something fucking dumb and aval completely in a government job unless you are like the inventor of emergency or something correct so god bless ya so or really airborne how is that. Tito's yeah whatever. I i would love to know how the scandal with that. I think it's just all nothing. It doesn't work. I don't know. I feel like it does work though but i guess a lot of people are really. That's just an oakland vitamins. And you just pay it out so it's like it doesn't hurt you but it's not helping you and maybe it has a placebo effect. I don't know about. I'm not an expert on that aaron. And i've really resent the brought it up. I'll never get over it. I brought it up to trickle. You trigger you in a very very specifically so kelly laughlin and her husband hold a five hundred million dollar stake in a company called intercontinental exchange. Thuc is that it's the parent company to the new york stock exchange. so basically they. Yeah so they have a even a thing. They have a huge share in the parent of the new york stock exchange. So she has quite what do you say like an inroad or inside information about all sorts finances and stocks and securities and exchanges and blah blah blah blah. So originally people thought she was worth about four hundred million turns out. She's worth about at least eight hundred million. And how do you get that wrong. Have assets that are high. They're hiding. I think so. Yeah and it wasn't actually uncovered until it was uncovered that she had sold off twenty million dollars during the pandemic or before the pandemic really hits the should inside information is like oh fuck the economy's going tank. How can i benefit from it versus. How can i stop it from tanking. Anyway the wealthiest member of congress obviously and of course it's been uncovered has also donated thousands of dollars to anti lgbt plus and of course antiabortion groups and organizations so she has pledged. Just i think this week pledged to donate her salary to statewide charities and georgia's salaries hundred and seventy four thousand dollars. Which is nothing noble to do because the problem is she did really just. Isn't it just means you're you're so rich. That one hundred seventy four thousand dollars means nothing tiago. That's all it means and by the way don't quit saying you're giving it to charities when you're getting it to hate groups do and by the way. I don't think she thinks that these places is hate groups. I'm sure she thinks they're like wonderful. Empathic crucial charity organizations. But it just isn't true so she's prepared now to give one hundred seventy four thousand dollars to places probably that she's donated before which includes seven anti abortion pregnancy centers and also thirty eight hundred two covenant adoptions which is an anti pd plus adoption agency. She also submitted a bill in september. That would rewrite laws about trans-youth that would essentially bar them from competing in school sports. And it's just really trying to keep things as aggressive as possible and give money to people who really only serve to hate and in the case of covenant carib options really ruined lives of children and the parents who are trying to adopt them. It wouldn't wouldn't it make sense if you had eight hundred million fucking dollars while it would make sense to me to be like the most open person in the world because who gives a fuck. There's no rules for you because you're so fucking rich but instead of that they've that's exactly who they are. I mean when you open a fucking food shelter georgia why are you worried. About abortions and fucking. Lgbt plus adoptions like. Why don't you open a food bank if you know that. Something's about to crash or do something on the state level to make sure that people get breaks for their housing during something that you know is about to affect them instead of selling off twenty million dollars worth of stock so that you don't get a little bit poor and by that i mean going from like a eight hundred million to about eight hundred million the it's so gross but anyway so cutting carib is essentially one of those places that like. Byu like places that you can really count on for equality they make you. Sign a statement of faith which is essentially. Just why. why do i have to. It's so crazy to me. That a person's imagine walking church or synagogue or a mask and all of a sudden. You are having to sign documents to your allegiance to something. It's like they find out later that you're actually an atheist and you lied to them. Can they come. Take your kids away like i mean. Let's the purpose you shouldn't you shouldn't ever have to do that. And i'm not saying way churches and mosques and synagogues as far as. I know none of them do those things you don't ever have to sign a document pledging your allegiance to a faith. You just go because you want faith in your life or your trying something or your devout in one way or another. But anyway this documented the statement of faith four covenant carried options demands that users agree that quote god created the institution of marriage between a man and a woman his ordained means of filling the earth as if our primary responsibility on this artist. Fill it up by the way. That kind of phrasing to is so capitalist like like we need to fill up every sec every square foot of this world with us and our shit. I know someone and i'm not going to say because i don't want them to get embarrassed. I know someone who had sex with a woman who before they would come would say. Fill up key magin you. Can you tell me when we're done recording. Yeah someone who works on this show but we can cut it out. Same you their shit. I'm sorry i was brushing my teeth in the other room. I forgot i told you that story was that you. I'm sorry and by the way i did not mean to bring you into. This is if you would like me to cut this out. I'm happy to do it. I'm going miss this part the best. I'll make sure this is the loudest part of the podcast. Okay i said she said. Fill me up filler. Up his way worse. Yeah one time. I went home at this woman after a party. And we were hooking up. And when i told her i was about to come she turned her head. Looked me right in the eyes and went fella like it was a gas station attendant in the forties. Like i was going to come and be like dingane. I mean i do sort of love. That very sexy. So that's what this adoption agency wants you to do up there or filler up on the earth. Make this earth with geena. Would you know what this earth with this planet really needs. More people a concentration of people feeling every corner of it and doing more and more good to it okay. They also said we oppose the elective abortion of human life. We've got intense sexual intimacy to occur between a man and a woman who are married to each other. Then they go on. The intimate people are evangelical 's sensual about them. Look mike pence and fucking mother on stage. Not even holding hands nothing. Not even touching each other. Nothing like to. I like to fucking ice. I've seen penguins be more affectionate. Yep in my home totally came over winner. You still have them over. Every non the penguins. Yeah they're fine so formal. I know after by the by booster seat so we can see their faces because they were all we could see. Was there like top of their heads on the chairs. Yeah well that's good and for mcdonald's really beautiful brown beige ones. Those are so saxena gorgeous. I would love to get those and have them in my house for you know different small animals that i have over really good about them is when they're really warn they're almost like sandpaper just so rough to the touch. Isn't that great so beautiful. I love that okay so this group also goes onto group homosexuality as sexual morality alongside by sexual conduct bestiality incest and also the use of pornography. Come on honey take up. Take a breath already. The this sort of language trials awesome. Yeah and i'd be like kelly laughlin had to find this place. Do you know what i mean like. This isn't somewhere that's like you go on charity navigator and you find them to know what i mean but you have to look for a place like this ear yeah right. I'm sure she's a true believer in this shit. I don't know how else you could square it. Because she doesn't need the money or anything like that but she does support these places but don't also don't discount the power aspect of it like we when people have that much money they still. They want their appetite. They're like sex addicts. They're like they need more more more more more. And maybe it's not money but maybe it's power and control and influence and the era people in like you know it's fucking. It's a wedding on steroids. Yup another an antiabortion group that she donates to which again was nervous. Where's that fucking one hundred. Seventy four thousand dollars salary. You're gonna go where you donate to and empower people who don't should not have power so another one is a group called o'brien medical clinics obiara. They were the recipient in two thousand nine hundred of five point one million dollars as part of the title. Ten family planning program which was a federal grant now. This article from speed buzzfeed called called it. A federal grant scheme that sub that was supposed to subsidize clinics subsidize clinics providing birth control. But of course this place oprah medical clinics doesn't have any kind of that there's no birth control services or contraception offer to its users. Instead they something called an abortion reversal pill. Have you heard of this now. This was the most fucked up thing. I've even is that even it's harmful it so i guess there was a study for it at the university of california davis because like someone had said there've been so many claims that it's you put put this hormone in you and it kills any sort of abortion pillar show that you were having or something like that. It's like okay. i'll get a little more into it. But basically so it's it's like it goes into your system and missile like target the the chemicals that are creating the abortion and stop it exactly totally impossible. Yes post to stop quote a medication based abortion after a patient has completed the first part of the two step process so it was supposed to stop it however the study was shut down because it was deemed unsafe and they've really had safety concerns so they were supposed to enroll forty women into this that were scheduled to have surgical abortions but before those procedures. The women received the first pill in the to medication regimen for medical abortions. This called maifa prestone or mifepristone or Yeah so then. So it's supposed to target. Are you forty six. Okay which is which is My press down. I never say right but braids and so then i guess what they give. You is progesterone. And that's supposed to stop their abortion after the first pill but only twelve women enrolled for this study and three of them were required ambulance transportation to a hospital for severe bleeding. They got very very. You can fucking bleed out with it doing. Is you know what i mean like. Oh my god do you to death horrible. And so she is. She gives to this organization and again they got that grant from the trump administration which was trying to give money to antiabortion which did give money to anti abortion organizations instead of planned parenthood. Which was the deal. The deal was that it's supposed to go to places to provide birth control and contraception. So this woman has a chance of remaining a senator the richest person in congress who just horrible things with our money things that attack the lgbt plus community things that certainly attack women and abortion rights and so pleased support as much as you can go to act blue and support johnno soften raphael warnock. Who is running against her january fifth. Do it do it. Nike adidas data. Yeah that's my that's my You know so funny. My aunt called the dida. 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Things are not a playbook no die something more interesting more dynamic more layered exactly maybe yeah maybe it pops up. Maybe it fits right in your purse. That has special pocket sewn just for it. That is so cute whenever you bring it out like people gasp commandments. or something. They can't believe the beauty they can't believe it also the smell. It smells like baby powder like a like bad like a like a baby powder pepper powder factory and it's also basically at the end of the day just to greeting card but it costs eleven dollars because it's so beautiful and you have to put extra stamps on it and it's and it's also got one of those things. It's like the chip inside. That sings a song. But it's run out of batteries so it's really like slow and really upsetting. Actually it's really upsetting. Don't open that card. Pleased over that guard But take it around and show your friends and your enemies. Well a lot of us have not been able to see. Our favorite style is because of cove. Ed and For those of you doing brazil libro at blowouts That might not be a bad thing so we all know that they have. If you don't know what a brazilian blowout is. It's basically a chemical straighten or it's like the opposite of a perm. That's kind of how i describe it. it includes a that we use in this world to keep corpses fresh for malda herod. Yeah wow and it can be super fucking toxic if you hit it. Which is what you have to do with the brazilian blowout. You'd put the chemical on your hair and then you heat it with a flat iron and that like seals it in okay so a lot so then everyone was like wait. This asteroid formaldehyde in it and in the beauty industry. Of course everyone was. Like i don't care wants to be here and then there are some bad press about it and they were like okay. Okay okay hide free but they contain something cold methylene glycol which converts to formaldehyde gas. When it comes in contact with the air so like in the bottle is formaldehyde free. But the second it hits the atmosphere it turns into formaldehyde. Gas it lets off formaldehyde. So it's like all this fucked up stuff is relying clever. Con- you wanna have a call on you wanna do a bank heist con- you go to a cosmetics company. Does they know it get lacy moseley on this case. So the fda new all of this and their own scientists were like these are not safe an f. The fda was about to ban all this stuff was about to band knees but then suddenly they like forgot their. The reason that we're finding out about now is because there's an advocacy group called environmental working group. Who used the freedom of information act to be like. Wait a minute. You guys were investigating this europe. You had all these guidelines on how this should be do safely. They release to protect women or sorry anybody who wants to get a brazilian blowout. It's not just women but Anybody with curly hair. Who doesn't appreciate it or for. Some reason wants to fight the natural -ness of their hair. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I totally fucking get it like. I've dyed my hair for years. I've done tons of to my hair to change it. Sometimes you just want to change us not necessarily always like just not liking. What what you're born with. But when it's not safe and you don't know it safe that's a problem and the only reason we knew about this is because of the freedom of information. Act that that they were. They uncovered that there were all these rules drafted for safe use and they were abandoned and the fda won't say why they were contacted for comment. And i don't know if it was like frederick for kyw found out or ken. Pablo or sure. Jessica simpson dean anyone. Any of the great any of the the win anyone in the company. Yes his billboards if we can just for one moment. Chaz genes yeah. Yeah it's like. Do you want this hair. Go here but also like he's on every billboard indifferent different vests and every single year. We get a new billboard do and it's like a different person he does but i gotta say she seems really nice. Having loved to does. Seem nice. And i hope i think it would be a treat to get my haircut by one time by testing. Maybe you should. You know what it's got to be so expensive seven hundred dollar haircut yet right. That is yeah no i mean. I'm not gonna do that by the way. Let me tell you something when i used to I know to stylists who won in chicago and one in l. a. Who both were like. Oh i wanna go to this like amazing person in new york expensive. I want two thousand dollars. Like i want the best of the best. I want to learn all this. Never once did they come back and say it was worth it right like this impossible for that to be worth. I mean a lot of the instagram You know people who have cut hair for fame you know. They're not they're not. I have and we also know somebody who went to someone else who's instagram famous and heard her cut was she was very upset about it. 'cause it's all about the instead. It's not about the daily right. that's where you'll get. I don't know if you'll that from chaz and business pre instagram. so he might know what he's a veteran's business erin he certainly. I bet he's a professional professional. And if he gives you advice you better. we'll take it has seen success. Actually you know who might be fun to go to. There's a hairdresser stylist. Whatever in who on sunset. He's a guy he sort of abro. I think he does like james corden's hair but he spends half of his week cutting People who are on the street like home people who are homeless. Any does all this outreach. And he's gotten people into rehab and stuff. He's actually really. He seems really like like a good person. Will i absolutely love. He just opened up his own business. He's worked really hard to get there. It's called unison. Right in right on the sixth. Can you do outdoors. No but i think i actually t might be close again because i think that is the thing now but he was only doing like one person in the morning and one person in the afternoon. So we've closed restaurants and bars and salons but not movie sets de correct that's correct and also There's gotta be something else. We haven't closed i. But but yes but anyway. If you're ever in la you want a great kite. Ryan damietta unison. Support a small business. He's the best. Don't go to win now. he's on here on. Qvc he's fine. Point is i don't know why. The fda dropped their their this plan that they had to protect people from brazilian blowouts so these products have been linked to rare cancers and something called say this wrong mile loyal my lloyd leukemia and according to industry watchdogs the only safe way to use these products is to use them in a wind tunnel. That is a direct quote. God he trying to be funny. So the formaldehyde. Just banish this fast. yeah. I mean it's atmosphere but it's like that's for to keep the practice by the way it's not just about the women. Sorry i keep saying. Women is just about the people who are getting brazilian blowouts who are being endangered who's really endangered or the people who are doing it. Day in day out chronic exposure to this stuff. Oh my god. Oh wind tunnel just know. If you're getting those done you just need to be investigating them on your own because the fda is not is not here to protect you. And if you're if you're willy wonka and the chocolate factory you know that that they float up in. You can do it in their do that do that elevator. That goes to the guy if that's if that's your don't cut blanket or what no don't don't don't do a blunt cut bang out in that elevator. Now okay. that's not. I just wanted to preface. I've one more thing. I wanna talk about So this is a little lesson in gender problems with working women in japan. I wanted to talk about this weird. It's not it's not actually weird. It's actually a good work. If like labor unions type thing that they have in japan and how it's been eroded and how women have been bearing the brunt of the erosion so there's this concept in japan called regular workers. They have something called lifetime employment. And they how you become. A regular worker is superintendent gaming absolute anxiety attack about it but so basically high school or college companies come and recruit you. It goes on for an entire month if you find a job. Congratulations you were hired for life. Which means you have to annual bonuses. Sometimes you get housing benefits they pay for your housing and your basically impossible to fire and you have a pension plan. Wow you're set for life okay now. I personally think that you shouldn't do anything when you're in high school and college that this lifetime commitment. I think it's the dumbest time to do that but the reason that they do it. This is super. There's like this thing of like after world war two they were like we have to protect our workers. We have to the company start doing the same but also they do it with young people society. Yeah but they do with young people because they're mold -able because they're they're pliable and do you can make them in the image of your company and make them company people and short. You'd have people who don't question have people who fall in line. Which i personally think is a bad way to work because you get. How do you the only way you can have innovation and be better. And that's for anything is to have people who question things and who present different ideas and who are encouraged to think in different ways. Having everyone thinks the same way. I think for the good of society like for example everyone getting free healthcare and like great roads and stuff like that. That's a good thing to be on the same page about. But i don't think like as a lifelong commitment. Just being a cog in a machine is good for the human psyche. That's my personal opinion. So but all that aside. That's how they do it. And then there's another thing called non-regular workers which is where if you don't find a permanent job after high school or college you're basically guaranteed a life of an american who is like job to job. You can be fired at any moment. There's no protections you don't get a pension. There's none of that shit okay. There are more non-regular female workers in japan than ever and they oftentimes fall into this category. Because okay so there's also been a very especially if you're it's starting to change a little bit and talk about it but like if you're a woman in her fifties and you got your getting divorced and you've never worked because your husband has had like a really intense job and you. Your job has been to support and to raise your kids. You're instantly a non-regular worker because you've not been in the workforce so you're now divorced which is one thing and now you have to go into this unprotected category of laborers and that's just one example of how you might fall fall into non-regular what if you have some sort of What if you have some sort of disability or something that prevents or you know. You can People discriminate against on. I mean there's just a bunch of stuff bunch of ways you can you can fall into this lifestyle or lifelong joblessness slash For anti no protection systems and and all of those so essentially there were two court cases last week that were decided on the wrong side of history. One of them was the case of setsuko. He hit keita. Who sold newspapers in the subway. She was an excellent worker and even though she won awards for accomplishments she found out she was not paid equally because she was denied. This regular worker status now. Here's the thing there were other people doing the same thing she was who she she was who are considered regular workers and they have like all these benefits and bonuses retirement. Plan all of it. She didn't because she was just labeled as the different kind of worker she sued and then the court sided with her employer. And as i said these were these were started. These productions were started after world. War two to kind of bring this society back from the brink of war of which we have. We're to blame for a lot. And it's affected women because more than half more than half of the women in the workforce non-regular okay so there's just unproductive exactly that's a lot i mean i don't know i think one of the reasons. I was very shocked by this. Because i don't have this. Image of japan is having this like gender disparity and class disparity. I feel i feel like of a lot of countries like it does feel like they take equality and fairness very seriously but it just doesn't seem like they're actually doing that when it comes to these kind of Workers and i think you have to look at a society who treats p women as if they are disposable after you think you have to look at that really with the with a really critical eye and unfortunately we don't have a government right now. Who would ever like. Speak up and say something but would be nice. If one day we did have a government who could say to japan. Who is who is an ally. Hey we don't like what you're doing over there. This isn't cool. Yeah do something about it you know. And let's let's encourage. Let's see i know. Let's support these women. Who are out there doing these like these really hard jobs as our other people. And they're just not getting protected because of a label right. I mean there's so many countries that do that. Just start you off on a track that you you can't get off of you know what i mean. Ways either the track of well this is the rest of your life decided. This is the way this is the track. You're going on no matter what i mean. I mean he talk about ally. America has a infinite river problems. Yes but it does feel like in certain ways and i think the uk kind of feels like this to although line. A little bit of avai do that too. I mean they're a-level. There's all that stuff that's like you're going to start your life and then depending on how you score and certain things that determines everything i know definitely more classes than it is here for sure but i do feel like america for all of its problems and there are tons. Of course we have tons of problems. I always think about this episode of drag race. I don't know who the queen was but she was from. I think it was the from paris. Or i don't remember saying that like america is is still one of the places where you can at least have a little more room to be yourself and to redefine yourself with without all those labels. Yes it still is like the freest country in the world. But it's it's lacking great right exactly so anyway. I just think you know this is a really good lesson for me to not just like mike. Sugar co country sugar honey the living sugarcoat. These days are holiday. Cookies doubt that honey dot is hysterical. swedish bonds. I did order that. I ordered that specialty sugar. Do you know that sugar. That goes on swedish buns. It's a special sweetest sugar. No it's like not chris. All soft just melt swedish told you why cash alert. They've actually swept through fast way. What would you remember. The name of the sugar can literally called swedish. Sugar cardamom buns. Yeah okay so they usually have them on just lied. I haven't always called swedish. Pearl sugar sell. You know what you would actually like this because you can't make a necklace with that but oh or any kind of jewels anklet. Oh it's called part asaka swedish. It's it's not super softer than crystals. That's great it looks like snowflakes. Who pretty and so. I can't believe. I went directly from gender inequality in japan to swedish sugar. That's what we do on this show. That's how it goes. If you have the chance. Brian do you do you do you. Are you doing breads at all now. I'm not also order the sugar and just sprinkle it on do a strobe light and sprinkled throw up in the air like it's snowing and yeah oh you know. Jerry is still doing that thing every year. Where you re enact the edward scissorhands moment where he like makes us snow globe for for when i do and i make some put on a long very obvious red hedwig and dance with me. Oh that's beautiful. stare me yeah. Wait is edward. Scissorhands are redhead. No she is. Oh in that movie. Mercer talk yeah looks great strawberry blonde. 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Bonus Episode: Becoming Unorthodox - Michal Birnbaum, Tova Birnbaum

Judaism Unbound

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Bonus Episode: Becoming Unorthodox - Michal Birnbaum, Tova Birnbaum

"This is a special bonus edition of Judaism unbound becoming Unorthodox. Welcome back everyone I'm Dan Levinson and I'm lex referred and we are excited to be here today with two really special guests one of them. You already know if you've been a longtime listener of Judaism inbound and the other one. You don't know, but you sort of do. For variety of reasons, so our first guest today who you know is Tova Birnbaum. She is the director of Jewish content at our very close friend. The Palo Alto JCC the family. In Palo Alto California. As you've heard me, say and we are also here with her sister mayhaw. Birnbaum who you don't think you know, but you do because she was in the series on Netflix that has been so popular over the last few weeks and months called Unorthodox and Maha plays the character who is kind of the teacher of Este the young woman when. When she is learning how to be a wife and you sure if you've seen the show I don't want to spoil too much, but you were probably struck by the scenes and found them really really interesting, and we're excited to get into some of those scenes a little more, so let me just say a little bit about me. How because you already know Tova? Bihar Birnbaum is a an actress in a filmmaker. She is a graduate of the Lee. Strasberg theatre and Film Institute and was also trained at the Stella. Enacting, she has lots of new. York City film credits and lots of other credits including a film called Division F- which she has created, and also stars in which has won many awards in. It's been playing at various film festivals, but of course she is well known to everybody these days from the show. Orthodox and we're really excited to be able to explore the series and also. Also the story behind the story in that both Tova Anghel grew up in north. Families in the same ultra-orthodox family in Israel I should say and We're really excited to talk. Both about how art might imitate life, or or perhaps the reverse, oh, veteran by macabre, and by welcome to Judaism unbounded so great to have both of you on, thank you. Thank you for having us. Missile I thought we could start with talking to you a little bit about the process of creating the series Unorthodox. I keep calling it a movie. I think it's because my wife and I binge watched it and when sitting. In felt like a really long movie. But can you talk a little bit about both how the the opportunity came up? How does one end up in a series like that? And also? How did your experience making Unorthodox compare with your experience of life? I think. Also another series or movies about the ultra Orthodox world you often see a character that that had these aspirations that is really not allowed. They WANNA SING THEY WANNA act this'll diesel. They made it like A. he wants to be I. Guess The a painter. Yeah I think it's. It's common in the Orthodox world. Where you you kind of you, you've you're exposed to. Maybe we don't have TV at home, but you're. You're doing school play than you're exposed to be arts in different forms than than and. And then every once in a while, there's someone who actually wants to pursue it in real life, not just as a hobby, and that that might be a problem so not not a great recipe, necessarily, so yeah, I think in that sense. I definitely identify with with the story of the main character wanting to act from some very young age and I. Thank my sister and talk about that, too, because she has also been an actor for many years in the past or also today. Yeah I think what is really interesting. Is that in calendar? I are twelve years apart, and they think we grew up in a pretty similar family, but when it comes to the religious world in Israel and the opportunities that opened Akron people I think. We literally live in two different. Universes when I went to acting school I was the only religious girl. I was the girl with the long skirt. I was really alone in the world. That's how I felt it was extremely difficult experience for me and they think highly you in a pretty young age had a lot of opportunities to taste the forbidden fruit, the more legit ways. And I think it's really interesting. How each of us chose a similar but different path because of are pretty backgrounds I think. This conversations always bring me back to an early conversation that we had on Judaism unbound with Shula. M- Dean who is. A man who grew up ultra-orthodox and then left it and I asked him. Whether I, sort of was trying to get at how many non-believers are there in the ultra-orthodox world, and why an unbeliever may leave her? However I formulate the question in what he said to me was so interesting. It stuck with me for many years. Now that it's not the nonbelievers who leave ultra orthodoxy, the creative people because a certain kind of creativity is not welcome in a community. That's fundamentally trying to stay the same now. Of course, we all know that. that. Communities don't say the same and they changed, but there's a there's an amount of staying the same that that certain communities want one of the things that I took away from that conversation was the realization that that's not only true of ultra-orthodox see, it's actually true of any community including reform conservative right as long as it's trying to more or less stay the way it is, then it wants some degree of creativity, but not the kind of creativity that says. I want to try something completely different, and I don't want to leave. I want to try something really different. I think. Maybe it'll be even more powerful, and they say no. No, no, there's a limit to that, so I'm curious how that accords with the experiences that you had also twelve years apart whether that was changed over time. I think it was easier for me. Because there was no, there were no labels, no one knew yet. People sometimes actually gave me lots of compliments about my style, and like you're the only one who's not wearing jeans like you're so Cole wearing dresses and skirts. So I I did not have to experience than I. Think Yeah I think. He was just so much easier to just down. Go to theater school in in a place where no one actually knows your background and I think. If going to chill. Going to synagogue in in the state is a lot easier when you just. When you go to theater school because it's not unheard of especially in new. York maybe not in other places, but You know it's not unheard of. It's solely makes sense they. You don't some kind of artistic school and yet when you go to synagogue in Israel. Maybe it's not that common when people ask me you know over over lunch. Right over kid khitish like what you do. Go to school To Hear I. Mean Acting School I'd. Never heard that one is so so yeah. New York City and really I was really grateful to find to find my place there as an actor. So itching, ask an unorthodox specific question. I love. This loved the sh the show it was. Yeah I I didn't binge it in one sitting like Dan did but I did binge it pretty quickly in like a couple of days. And I'm curious. What couple of things? I'm having this thought that. Like I've often really curious about how actors conceptualize. What they what you are doing when you're acting because I mean sometimes I watch interviews with actors, and for some people they're like I really am the character in for the entire time that I am in the project. I really like take on that character. Even when I'm not filming. And then there's other people who are like no I. Take it on. I'm really interested in the different approaches to that and for somebody who is playing a character as you were that actually. Is from a from an ecosystem from a world that you so deeply inhabited earlier, the curious what that was like for you like. How did did you see yourself sort of inhabiting the persona of this of this teacher? I. Don't know how to like still her role like this teacher of I often. I mean the official name is Kala teacher, but for people who never heard of a teacher I often say I'm the intimacy instructor on the show. We, can all her that? So so when when you were doing I, mean I'm curious what? Your. Relationship between you, Mikal and you, the character of the college teacher and I guess related to that, and this unorthodox is meant to to make a number of statements are sent some some important messages out to society, and I'm curious the extent to which the act of acting or actor intertwines with the act of activism, and also the extent to which it doesn't. Acting is more of a show. Don't tell type of thing it's. It's really you're asking great questions. It's Kinda hard to answer I wish I. I knew what it was doing was just doing it Yet reading reading. The script meeting the series for the first time. It was obvious to me that there is some. Kind of different with my character. The series is very serious. There's a lot of conflicts in place very dramatic and I mean Mike Character. Could they could take it to like very dark place also usually teachers intimacy instructor. CUSTOVIC intimidates structures are at least here typically are kind of older and the creators of the show. Definitely, they wanna take it somewhere else. They thought this is going to be almost appear almost her friend. Just a few years older candidate, sharing these secrets with her so I realized this this should be a little different. It can't be like this just. Really serious and boring a lesson. And this woman is clearly very passionate about her job and she. She feels totally in place in her community. She doesn't have a sense of Oh, a woman oppressed. I can't get to do I. Don't get to do things that men do not at all like I. I'm totally. Happy, where I am and happy to be learning. Well the gate, the series gave like a little taste of it, but really the women who teach that are they actually get to learn a lot? They learn all the Halava. They learn all the Jewish rules, so they actually do get to open You know the books and and really. Like men in a way she's a she's a female version of a rabbi and an often in this community. She is the wife of a rabbi in a way she gets to study. Tauron teach tour us so for her. That's the ultimate life and successful Just being really good at what she does, and I think that's a mirror to estee She is the exact opposite. She will never be that. She is being the main character. Just in case, folks did much. And I just love that about the series about this approach. Is Really this this There are no other characters who really show that S. she should beat. everyone is gonNA older than her. In the other issue than so I think this is really what my character is there to do. It wasn't hard to draw inspiration from characters in the past that I know that are exactly like that. They're there and that's. Again what I appreciate about the series. Yes, women are, you could say oppressed on a in a different level than men, but at the same time the very powerful to have they have a say you can, for instance Essy's aunt Malkov. She has a say I mean. She decides who she's GonNa marry. You know so there. There's complexity to it. Levels, yes, women are looked at as as maybe not the main the head of the family. But. Their input is taken seriously especially when when it's kind of family related decisions. The tragedy of the series as I experienced it as reflecting on. It is that they're all these characters who? Are Not happy in in that world or not fitting into that world very well including SDS father and and. And her has been a Yankee and also his this other. The man, she was involved, and there's a number of people who. A kind of feels to me like what they need is is for example therapy you need is not available within that community as opposed to. And I understand that maybe in the ultra-orthodox world they're not as likely to go to doctors as maybe they to be in terms of health, actual physical health concerns but more, but it's not like a community that doesn't go to doctors they there is a willingness to access medicine, but there seems to be not a willingness to access other tools that our modern world has developed to help people with their lives and I guess that what where I'm struggling to to think about the series, and also how it relates to life is that it feels like there's A. There's a conflict between the desire of the community to keep everybody in the community versus the And I guess it's a certainly a contemporary western belief but I but I I think it goes beyond that that people should live a happy life early life where they where they are fulfilled and I I guess that's the central. Of the of the film, but I'm also wondering in terms of your own lives, how you think about that as somebody as people for whom, that that that conflict is not. Just the radical or not just about people that you may know, but actually about people that you do know including yourselves. How should we be thinking about? You know the as people as Jews who are not part of that community you know. How should we be thinking about it? Because part of me feels like? What do you say about a world in which there are many many fellow Jews that are not happy, and that are kind of stuck there. What is our responsibility? That's what I'm trying to sort out. I actually wanted to start saying that I felt that. The series was Criti- respectful for the community. And that one thing that we sometimes I sometimes forget and remind myself that in certain observant Jewish. Communities. It's not about us. And we frankly. Another important. What important is the? Religious work that has sham. It's all about the divine. and. That is actually not depressing thing for a lot of people and I think. A lot of even very close family members. That I think are a bit. Different maybe for us, but for them it is about the devotion to God and that centers life that helps make life choices. and. Frankly. I think a lot of them are very happy. For us, sometimes a from the outside you, we tend to think of a lot of the. That community members as being. Depressed or deprived certain things it's it is true, and I go back to what you started with Dan to the creative people to the different people I can say for myself that from a pretty young age. I felt that I do not fit. I didn't have any theological issues at all. It's not about the guy is not about, do I really? Live the way I should live. It's about this doesn't fit I need to be somewhere else. And I actually wanted to ask him how I. Don't think it's a chance that we both. Live outside of Israel. Right now you're actually now in Israel, because of this crazy situation and then. I'm actually curious about this. Whole immigration aspect that folks arrest US shows, so we kind of immigrated twice. Right from very observant world into a more modern. World from Israel to America and leaving on this fence all the time for me, it makes life richer in being able to ceasing sometimes in a better perspective. Do you connect those two migrations together we have. yeah, I mean. It's funny because I. I arrived in the States actually not for theatre I I was. I thought I was GONNA. Go back to Israel for that I came to do a program of one year of Ishida. Again like a galley. Tearing Me Sheva. In New York, which again exists in Israel today? I don't know how much it existed. In the past, it was also like my post army trip. So instead of eight months in India like I'M GONNA be eight months on the upper west side and Where was that? Of course, it was Dr. And I I owe a lot to this institute to these Sheva because it really opened a whole world and even though. I think in Israel if you're not from, Jerusalem, you, you're like you've never really been to those circles and I did not grow up in Jerusalem. And so yes, and just something about American Judaism. Just drew me in and and I. Just I wanted more of that I wanted to stay in a whole lot of also Israel in my program in in different years that had dr hadn't really hard time going back to Israel after experiencing a whole year of of justice, more open open Judaism. I think it's changing in Israel now a very slowly. But. Yet if things are, it's definitely easier in a way to be a Jew. In the states, sadly you know, you can hear his as often say like Israel is. The only democracy were Jews don't have freedom of religion. It's ridiculous, so yes, in a way it's easier to do outside of of Israel. I just wanted to pick up on just one other element, because I have not asserting a strong strongly-held belief here. I'm trying to puzzle out a question which is the responsibilities of parents to children and I'm thinking out if. We're experiencing this classically I. Feel here in America. We've experiences classically over the last twenty thirty years about sexual orientation and I think that you know maybe thirty years ago. There was a sense among parents that. You know I hope my child is not you know if they are a love them anyway or whatever, and that sort of evolved into sense by a lot of people I think an expectation that the feelings should be. My child might be gay and if my child is gay then. Of, course they should be you know it's. It's another way of being human and I guess that that I'm I'm I'm very happy about that. That evolution and it makes me think about how. We should think about a world that has a right to be a certain way, and to for example say that we want to promote you. Know what we really believe that this community about it is about is the service of God, and not the individual, and if somebody grows up, and they love that, and that works for them, then then that's fine, but but what about the children who grow up and say this isn't this isn't for me. You know right I'm feel part of this and I feel like a lot of them, not not just in the ultra-orthodox world I think we're I'm trying to get a bigger question here about. How we raise children. What is it look like to say? It may be that my child won't grow up to be to remain in this community, and that's okay. Is it possible that that community can can evolve in that way, or maybe it already is because it feels almost like the the alternative is that people have this tragic secret in their family? You know that one of their children left as opposed to yeah. And left, and she's incredible actress and I'm very proud. You know and and everyone's like Oh. Yeah, you know that's that's it and we also embrace the people who come you know, and and become a Georgia so I guess I'm just wondering how that lands on you and whether your thoughts in that dimension. As I worked on my previous film Division Avenue. I actually spoke to ex hus-. People and there's also a little bit of misconception there I mean most of them are in touch with their families. You know of course when they go to visit or when they go to like a family event, they have to dress accordingly and maybe do you know put on a little show? most people I've met are in touch with their families. And it's it's fine. Of course they're not happy with the situation. But, they do keep in touch so. I think that the tragedies are just the ones that we hear of because that those are the ones that that series are made out of right, but. That is not to say. I mean I. Haven't conducted a research. I think for the most part eventually. The parents Geno accepted what anything Jila. The thing that really broke my heart nine Orthodox is when sds calling her grandmother from Berlin and the grandma tanks up. And that's classic. Scene, right the TV lives and unfortunately I know. It is part of reality for a lot of people. You know I get this all the time. Are you in touch with your family? Because you know, people really imagine something really dramatic. Of course. Most people would not want to be separated from their children I, think there is a bigger sing here because when I went to acting school when I was twenty. I was approached by my family members, and I was told that I am the reason why my cousins are not gonna find good. She do a good match, so you are being applied on the responsibility for the well being of not only yourself in your close family, but the larger circles, and unfortunately we know that now in the covid situation. Now it's no longer possible but. Unfortunately very traditional communities had families hide defected. They have sick people at home because of all these shame. A enlarge responsibility aspect so the system. Is Very very clever in incentivizing people to keep the roles because of their ability to others. Button, but to definitely. Life is different. I noticed something happened in myself earlier. When Tova, you mentioned you mentioned that you both immigrated from Israel and the and you were talking about how like? Maybe maybe there's something there that that each of you don't live there and I noticed in myself. That like I had a momentary confusion, because when immigration and Israel come up for me. I'm so used to Israel being the destination that people are immigrating to and I'm used to the discourse being about immigration to there and and I don't. This, like took me a second be. Oh, wait. Yeah, they're talking about immigrating from Israel to the US and then me how you talked about beautifully. Wow there are really some incredible American. Jewish projects kind of like I get. It striking to me and I want to ask about that. Because both with the migration I'm GONNA call both of these migrations and big migration language with the migration to and from Israel. We tend to center the Israel part, so if somebody goes to Israel they went to Israel. They moved to Israel. If somebody moves from to the United States I often don't hear. People say that person. Immigrated to the United States. They say left Israel. You're being the Hebrew term. That's the kind of pejorative and negative. That sort of went down to someplace outside of Israel, and so I think we do a similar thing. We talk about people who. Transgressed the boundaries of Ultra Orthodoxy and not Ultra Orthodoxy. I don't think I've ever heard somebody say That person became reform. In talking about someone who started ultra I. Don't think I've ever. became, renewal that person. It's the true thing. A lot of the earth that person became second. It's always they left Ultra Orthodoxy and in the inverse. I have friends who started out reform or secular, or whatever who are now ultra Orthodox and it's never They left behind secular Judaism. They left reform. It's always they became Orthodox and I like I. Don't know what to do with that, but I'm. I'm curious like to put all this together like when you did whether. It's discard. Alter the next year whether it's gain something new like what what are some of the pieces that do feel like you? Sort of left them left behind and new. Maybe you miss them, you don't and what are the pieces that maybe we don't even notice because we're just sort of living. non-orthodox in quotes lies like in quotes because I don't even think of what I do is non Orthodox. What what what are we not noticing? What are we taking for? Granted about our lives that you sort of gained in sort of I don't know entering secular Judaism are entering reform entering not whatever terminology dues. It's fun. I have I have a friend who celebrates her eerie diverse are- every year, which is really happy. Have Powder at I. Think Tova Dallas from her work that this word is not really used people use relocation, and. This is both to. Maybe it's not so pc anymore, but also yeah I mean people are. The proud I think in in the past new. It's not something that you would be so proud of, but now people are very proud of its achievement. Almost chew. I mean not just leave Israel really really to be successful somewhere else. That's not an easy as as immigrant. To. Answer your question at think about what you. What do you think he finds? The differences that are that are meaningful to you. You know I'm struck by how we love hierarchies, and that's in their religious world. We just mentioned how the we tend to think about if you're more. Week, if you're more observant that you're upper in the bladder and I, actually changed my whole perspective when I was I talked me last at a rehabilitation center. In Israel and one of the participants. A asked me about my life. A said jokingly causality Boucher La. That's a term that we use in Hebrew for leaving Arthur taxi. And he said no 'cause Alqadi chew found. You, so he used the opposite term for someone who actually went back doors at Acsi I literally started to cry because of someone whose life is about Richard there in a rehabilitation center and they know about changes and I started using that frame from that on because I definitely feel that I. For me upgraded my lifestyle may life choices being independent and being able to make independent choices for me. It is an upgrade, but going back to the migration aspect. The work that I am lucky to doing Palo Alto with both these ready and the English speaking community is very much about that, and especially with these early community we have. A few very very special projects that debt we analyze that and the Danu just visited. One of the groups that is called Clay Gula to of they asked for and where we use those terms freely. We are immigrants and that is so hard for a lot of people. Israel is who relocated who temporarily leaving America for thirty years. It's really a change of mindset in that means that we are here to stay to build our spiritual life, and to be a sustainable, not only the. Financial aspects, and that piece of American Judaism and the options that American Judaism gifts for so many Israelis really takes me back for my for visitor America. When I was nineteen I went to teach in an Orthodox High School in Los. Angeles is a very religious girl and I was shocked because the community that I. Worked with with arson Orthodox but very very very different orthodoxy than the one that I grew up in black, and even having those shades. Of Orthodoxy changed my whole world and understanding that those. Nuances could be created in India could really pursue the right way for you to leave Jewish Louis. This is something that American. Judaism gave me personally and I. Think for a lot of Israelis and that is why I no longer think we heavily doug going up going down. The relationship between the two communities is so so so important for all of us to really create the new phase of Judaism for all of us. That story is kind of why. I struggle with it because we know from the that there are many ultra-orthodox communities that try to keep out things like the Internet and other kinds of information like I actually remember having the experience that years ago and it's still happening. There's a group called women of the wall, which is trying to make it possible for women to pray at the wall with a terrorist girl and all kinds of things that. That are not generally allowed there, and there were these sometimes. There were these ultra Orthodox communities that would send all these girls from the from the young girls schools to come, and basically occupy the women's section of the Western Wall, so that it would prevent the the women who wanted to go with the tourists quote, prevent them from being able to come in, and they would yell at them and everything. Everything and I would always say like I think. This is a really stupid tactic. Their part because what's going to happen is that a lot of these young girls are going to see these women coming in with a terrorist GROHL and they'll be like that seems Kinda. Cool, you know, and maybe it'll take many years until that that girl grows up and had, but even just exposing them to that opportunity to. To even know that such a thing exists is very dangerous. I think that they're aware of that in that. In that particular case, I think it was a tactical error on their part in my view, but the the approach of trying to keep out information is in theory very powerful, except until it isn't rate, and if there's something that happens where the information can't be kept out and I'm wondering whether. For various reasons and people like certain Israeli politicians have said that the growth of the ultra-orthodox world is its own limiting factor, because as it grows to a certain size, people are going to have to go out and get jobs, and that information wall won't be able to be kept up anymore, and as soon as it comes in. The community is going to go smaller again because people are gonNA leave the ones who find something that's of attraction to them out out there I guess I'm wondering how you think about the future of these communities in light of all that is it is. Are we going to see? Something profoundly new emerge out of there where maybe it's a hybrid. Maybe it's a form of ultra orthodoxy. That's confident enough in itself that it doesn't have to be afraid of information. You know that it doesn't have to be afraid of losing some people. Because maybe more people will WANNA. Come than are lost. Are there in which we could imagine that the ultra Orthodox world adjusts to others, or is it more likely that they never will? And all of a sudden that information will come flooding in and it could. It could cause a catastrophic collapse. Everybody's. In a time like this that we're experiencing now with covert. I mean who knows everything is up in the air and and nobody knows what's going to happen, but I like how you think. Some of these things are going to be dealt with as time goes on. At least in Israel. Yes, you already see the changes. There are groups or several groups I think of women who define themselves as as. ultra-orthodox! They're not afraid to use the F word. and. It's it's. It's inevitable because you once you start. It's a combination of the Internet. Coming to our lives and smart songs. And also just the fact that someone has to support a family in this community. funnily enough, it's usually the woman, and so you can, and you know once you start having a job. You Kinda, thank A. Why would night just also have a career in not just a job not just to. Earn money, but actually to develop default myself. I think it's it's. It's already happening. Youth Authority here so you now let's of challenges in the horizon but I think the ultra Orthodox community in Israel. It is definitely changing and in a way. Maybe getting similar to what's happening in the state school years because in the states now on News Italy. Do men and women usually do have jobs They don't just sit unsteady all day, they. Find ways to also study on how in in the morning or in the evening so yeah, I think we're already seeing that. I think what's really interesting series that. We're actually getting a glimpse into the Brooklyn. Hasidic community and elected when in the beginning Gwen, may Yankee says I go to Manhattan every morning. They come back into evening. I have a nice dinner. Lovely wife so that lifestyle is very different than the other. Be Lifestyle in Israel. And is is typically in their series. The women actually don't get education, and that's insist communities it's it's not everywhere and in that is actually not the case in many many communities that really changing and changing because of the leadership of the women I. Remember our mother knife. You know that we were really young. Let's say our mom used to go to classes for we men, and mostly about a not the Gossiping Nation. But they had like our is. They had to sign up for I'M NOT GONNA ask that between two to four and then a different woman. What sign up for Florida to sex and that's how they like and then. event. Twenty hours you can rarely way. Our is almost up. I'm GonNa tell you. Yeah I vaguely remember something like that. That's so funny and you know it's funny. It's pretty amazing because the now. Our mom actually goes to Tomlin class. So you know a little. Shift there, too definitely. Yes, and absolutely so I remember growing up in a very very very traditionalist school, a like, really strict basic cove. Whenever we had a question that the teacher didn't know she would say any oil I will find out in Nevada, means I'll ask me has been who will open the book and I remember when mom used to come from those non gossip lessons saying you know those women actually opened the time with the actually looked at the book and really fast forward now. I think it's thirty years later. Her going to a town with classes in discovering arthur, feminism and helping. Good not women that are bound because of horrific circumstances. No, she's you know she's volunteering with them. And also looking at our different paths Mikhail to me. You know in decades. The communities changing dramatically in ease Ron. And I think mirroring with the Non Israeli holiday communities. You can see where it's probably going with rated mixing in the real world, because that's life and you can't really separate. And interest, interestingly enough as you can expect as you said. The communities. Walking into felony are the general territory and demanding separation or kosher food, and all that that's a beginner's conflict, because eventually it is also changing Israeli early. Life in Israeli society, in the of course starting with the conflict, but eventually it is about the complexity, a new answers in respecting other people's lifestyles, it will take us decades to get there as a society to really understand that you can choose your own life and be respectful and respected in the public sphere. I think McCall. You experienced that you know in in acting school as a an observant Jew who had their own lifestyle and and I dunno, you tell me if you felt respected, but I think we as society. We have another way to get there, but we will eventually. So we're Arkan towards the close, and just as we do I'd I'd love to just close out with whatever whatever parting words you'd love our listeners to walk away with, and so I'm just curious Wi with Unorthodox Mahala somebody who was in it. And Tova for you as of you're not just of yours, someone of you are connected to the story of it and to a person in the. What should we be holding with us? What should we be considering about? The the show Unorthodox in the issues that it brings up? A thank first of all. It's worth mentioning that it's based on Deborah Feldman's autobiography and her real life At least the Brooklyn part on the Berlin is is more a fictional and as we talked about women's the opportunities. What I appreciate about the book is how she. Describes her relationship with her English teacher, so women who do work in Williamsburg. I guess our teachers mostly and so it's really you talked about hierarchy. It struck me as so interesting, because even even within this community. It's like if you become the English teacher, you're. You're less than the the other teacher but still you study English and I think men. Don't even have ads the women it's funny. Women are in a way. They're more educated, but that is considered less in a way. because. It's not a Jewish education. General Education. I Always hope that. People would acknowledge how rich our culture is. However you WanNa, pursue either experience eight. I think I speak for both of US Mikhail that We're lucky. To have been raised with. Rich, content, even if it was displayed in, you know. A strict way with a lot of rules I think a gives me a lot of strength and a lot of love. To our culture. And and I think. Mayhem, you and me have kind of emission here. To, bring these complexity nuance and End Struggle aspect to this world I think we're lucky and I'm grateful. And also super super super proud of you and I can't. Stop talking to are. You and your amazing work so. 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Episode 257 (Stinky Butter)

One Two Three Jokes

43:40 min | 7 months ago

Episode 257 (Stinky Butter)

"Spousal confusion wishing and hoping and fallen and beeping and odor evaluation on. Today's episode of one two three welcome. Everybody do one. Two three josie competitive comedy podcasts. Where we take three stories from the news. Three jokes about each story and decide who has written the funniest joke. My name is my name is well that all around. I'm bob timmons. I'm carly kastner married. Craft aaron craft our resident judge. How's everyone doing no car accidents doing good. It's it's funny that you mentioned that. Cause i haven't got into a car accident recently. Eight there has anyone everyone else accident free this week. I recently lied about it. Because i was running late. Is that true. No i did get no car accident. Yes the night of this very recording. Congratulations we were talking about two hours ago and off said hey guys Anybody can extra fifteen. Yeah cool no problem. And then he's national. Oh by the way was in a car accident running behind just got in a car accident multiple fatalities about ten minutes. Not to minimise bob's experience. But my friend is in doubt now and she. She said she can't go anywhere because there was one hundred car pileup stories. Yeah did you see that it's nuts. What thousand accident. I was down so fast. All the way from texas it up the phoenix the skit drilled. I don't wanna miss it. So so bob tell us what happened. Give us the juicy police report now. We're getting into the least interesting part of the story. The actual exit. That's what people want to know. Everyone's dying to know this is my listeners. Have been asking for more car accident. Stories upload the dash cam video for patriotic eve as woody here and incredible car accident story. That isn't ryan. And i'm looking around to see if it from allowed to tell the story. I think i am in my book. No no my boyfriend's mom hit the same person twice on the same day. She got in a car she hit someone and then they exchanged insurance and all that stuff and then later so flustered. she hit the person i like. It's the craziest coincidence that the person was there again. She hasn't person again. That would be really cute but no probably that woman tells. The story of this bitch hit me twice by. I just love and she tells the story so well. It's so funny. I mean i'm sure at the time it was worth iq. But in retrospect carly's boyfriends mom always trying to one up me. No let's let's do round one wife. Stabs has been after confusion over old picks them having sex. This story is so weird. Police responded last week. To reports of a domestic dispute at the couple's home in sonora mexico. Where they discovered the man with multiple stab wounds on an arms and legs his wife. Leonora reportedly went ballistic when she found the explicit photos on his phone showing him having sex with who she thought was another one without asking him about the photos. Leonova allegedly begin. Attacking her shocked has been identified as one n who finally managed to wrestle the knife from her hands and asked her what set her off one then totally an aura. That the woman she thought had been cheating with the woman she thought he had been cheating with was actually her when they were just stating his apparently did not recognize herself because she was younger dinner and had makeup on according to the police report according to the do not talk about this. The and the are india do not receive. Dr not do says date sister who is expected to recover from the injuries told investigators that he told his wife that he had recently found the bodos. An old email entrance for them to his photo in order was arrested and remains behind bars pending charges. She told him let the serve as a warning for you if she ever really does catch him having sex with her younger self. I'll go next and who's in these pictures on our wall son. Our son is twenty five years old. These are pictures of a baby. Stop the women's identical. Twin sister is restarting responded with the no comment have something similar or identical twin five years younger sister with thinner s. She's she's ten years older. She came out of the womb ten years before so that people don't really wear makeup anymore during cogan so like i looked at pictures of myself from maybe a year and a half ago. And i'm like well. I'm so beautiful. What happened and i just gained some weight and wear makeup anymore. You're like i'd fucked mitch. Anyways i still say that to myself. Like jeremy carly tucker peanuts. It's between her legs puts fuck me. Is that where is right now. It gets a sleeps dog for the then you're listeners. Those people the threat to him. I guess continues because she just told the judge that she is sorry and recognizes her wrongdoings and then she's a totally different person. Now how do you explain this picture. A wig and this one. That's you as a french-made what about this one. That's a you pretending to be your sister. You know what it's been a long day. We should get some rest. Unfortunately the discovery of the photos to place after the unfortunately. The discovery of the photos took place after their fifteenth anniversary. Everyone knows the fifteenth. The asshole bleaching anniversary everyone knows that jin recognize unbleached asshole. One fits is carly's dog. And i see an educational podcasts. Truth is she did recognize the other woman in the picture. It was that bitch from her wedding photos wearing the white dress a hopefully. She doesn't stay angry because saving pictures of your wife to use his journey material. That's a sure sign of a healthy marriage fake news. This was reputation for forgotten. Wrong whole incident. Then gotten forgotten until this revisited. Like shoes creating a new hole by stabbing him at the best way to do it. No no no like. She'd forgotten that he did the Picture of him him doing wrong. Whole move out about it. Good episode title doing wrong. All not speaking of wrong whole moves aaron residential. Bring it this way. What do you make of this. First round or some highlights i like rick's i joke about the identical sister. Jeremy's i joke was good. I think jeremy had pretty good sweep. Throughout in bob sir i joke was good so it started off strong with everybody but i think jeremy landed the most. So i'm gonna go ahead and the point for the i particularly like the totally different person. Second joke germany. Thank you good stuff. That'll do it for round one. So we're gonna go to round two alleged peeping tom who through ceiling into women's locker room arrested deputies from the stafford county sheriff's office received a report from one life fitness in stafford project that a man had followed through the ceiling of the women's locker room and fell onto a woman below. The woman who was uninjured along with several other patrons of the gym then cornered the suspect. Who was later named s forty one year old. Brian anthony joe and how team in place into law enforcement arrived to arrest him. Joe was being charged with burglary three counts of peeping or into a building and vandalism. It is unclear how long joe had been engaged in this specific alleged act for or if he had done it prior to this incident. Investigations are ongoing right Starting things off from around to We must emphasize that. He is in alleged peeping tom. Okay he stated that he's a member of the fbi. The female budi inspectors so once we get confirmation from them. Then we can sort this out. Laugh at that carly ashland park with far our sounds. Remind me of my favorite joke. I won't be able to control myself garrity. We should do like a pop up thing that like for references to old episodes and i'll go like dressy park fart more info on episode twelve ninety three. We'll get somebody else to write a little blurb clears throat throat on muse. Episodes every episode scrolls one three hundred whatever. Unfortunately being detained by patrons was also a big part of it for the offender. No word yet on who will cover the damages vis-a-vis the laundry some damage lottery. You're making right now l. If that is you or if that's like your youngest who's this guy useful eyebrows kind of have to give credit to the guy for sticking to his new year's resolutions which was spending more time at the gym and being more pervy on that. These are shit. I certainly don't want to give any tips to potential peepers out there. But obviously the gym to do this. Would-be planet fitness judgment free zone. And they give out free pizza. But you're not supposed to grunt real loud right. yeah you have to exercise some restraint. I just don't feel safe at the bally's anymore. Let's try the new jim down the street. What's it call. Porky's fitness them carly parke's a movie from the eighties where they own the girls locker room. I know a park uses but it never seen it. I've seen some of it but it's famous for the hole in the wall. yeah hole in the wall. I guess what they can see. This guy's a terrible. Jim member last time. He peeped from the ceiling. He didn't have the courtesy of wiping up afterwards for the next beeper and he would have gotten away with it too if he had just stuck to his diet and workout regimen. Wow after only one day at this gym this guy dropped two hundred thirty five pounds. Don't a lot. It was quite an eventful day for the woman at the gym. Sorry technical difficult. It was quite an eventful day at the gym for the woman below him. She learned that she was able to bench two hundred pound dumbbell. The one went a little too corny from me Ricky's ricky's was tighter. But we're gonna resident judge. Aaron craft thinks brown to. How'd you like your darren so some round two highlights here ricardo's joke about the porkies fitness. I think got the most laughs. Earn money naming itself. Let's say regardless of the reference to title porkies business and his unfair jokela. Get one bad swale. Okay and. Jeremy landed the second one really well wiping up. I'm so good. Job there and bob your last joke Hit pretty well to the scooby. Doo reprise y'all scooby doo. You gotta get the reaction from everybody. But i think it was shared. Scratch my back. Sorry let us stop to show guys. Carly's he's in her chair to scratch your back you so crazy. Rain us rarick. He led the most and they were probably right. Rick have a tight game. Rick and jeremy rick one point jeremy one point ready route. Three japanese entrepreneurial launches body odor evaluation company. I know some folks who need to submit this name name. Oh no. I can't look at me when she said it. Well actually. i can't see any of you. Say i'm onto somebody. She smelled me when i said it. Just fight the fact that sales of deodorant tough collapsed due to the covid. Nineteen containment measures many people to wonder whether or not they have slinky butter body odor whilst stinky butter episode title. I can't believe it's not stinky butter. Stinky buttered is. I wonder whether or not they had stinky butter body odor. Well the good news is that now you can know for sure whether or not you have stinky butter. It's all thanks to entrepreneurs shota ishida that thirty year old recently launched a company called a mash up of words. Oh no it's oda rate she finally. It's a japanese worked. Lets her take me. 'cause the articles surgically it's a match the words odor rates unless it's pronounced row company is called oda rate. Which scientist analyze your body odor and report back to you is she. Two says something. You can't bring up with friends of getting the facts as a huge relief for people who are anxious about their odor. Ishida knows what he's talking about after all he himself used to have odor anxiety as he worked intensely during his postgraduate research. Issue didn't started noticing that people around him were behaving strangely. He thought they were opening windows in his presence or turning their faces slightly away when he was speaking to him when he was speaking what when speaking to him out dane was just because he just smelled so bad she couldn't be sure and as a result he started covering himself with anti per sprint body spray but has anxiety remained in eventually he reached a breaking point even the slightest changes in people's baby became enough to make him bill dreadful about his smell. Finally he went to see a trusted friend in asked for an honest opinion about whether his stench was off putting the front looked at ashida a bit funny and told him but he smoked perfectly normal. His experiences with being nervous about his body odor are wet and spider issued start his business and that businesses booming at a price of roughly one hundred and fifty dollars per analysis. That's a decent bit of profit. Ashida says that most of his clients don't actually smell bad based on his analysis. There's simply ribbing in a constant state of beer just like him. People who sign up for the service receive a package from day. It contains a t shirt and a container of activated charcoal. The company instructs the client charcoal material onto the t shirt to absorb odors. They must wear the t shirt for twenty four hours before shipping. It back to the company. A machine then analyzes the t shirt looking for twenty five different chemicals associated with unpleasant body odor. Finally the company gives the clients a reading on a scale of one to five. Should the client get a less than great oda rating. They will ultimately receive advice on how to wash themselves and their clothes among other measures to counter at a nasty start us off in round. Three i do. I have created a similar business. Targeting insecure people. I will count the pimples on your face and shoulders. The button is free subletter. The butter is gonna cost you. I'm already planning my reply when my girlfriend says. Take a shower you stink. Oh so you're a scientist. Now save money and use the method. I picked up from watching cartoons. Just paint a white stripe down your back in and see if sunk wants to fuck you. Armpits are like opinions. Pay me and i'll tell you how much yours stinks. This is why i use degree. Deodorant as in some japanese guy with the degree tells me. I don't need any that's stupid. I think we're gonna have a few stupid ones in this. The company has also developed a pill for people with low self esteem that helps ensure that their shit don't stink. There is really. Is this pill that you can take. That makes your poop smell better. No butter butter gamble. Torn my baby's poop smells like buttered popcorn. That's really can't beat drill. I won't say beating not good butter. Popcorn smells bad buttered popcorn meet from. Amc yes take that though. Bad deserve shorted. I want to take this opportunity to thank our sponsor nelson arm pinch our little cobol. I want to take this up. Hey i want to take this opportunity to sponsor nelson armpits stench ratings. Use our promo code jokes to get half off your nelson rating. The old path nelson showed payoff health nelson. I feel like you've kind of got away from the crux of this story. Part of that joke was the beeper toppy boxing. That's my scat. Aaron repudiates that. Because i'm like that's why you smell. Here's scott his. Scat is buttery like popcorn Mailed out my sample to the company. I haven't received my results yet but all my neighbors got a package from them. A gas mask sounds like the equivalent. Somebody like slowly going across the finish line. After marathon chris farley chris farley says like a joke that he's not confident about. I think gas masks. It's like at some point. I i was reading it and my words out of order. And i couldn't get back on. Ricky's thing where he goes. Beep bleep you laughing at the joke or you're laughing at the delivery of it doesn't matter counts me okay. Cute but they left for math nelson at is your new nickname by the way an officer with with gesture. You're thinking of germano a half. No his did a nogi on the half nelson milton triple somersault. I gleam the cube man. I was interested in this service. Until i found out that this was just another in a long list of weird japanese sex fetishes then i got really interested for the jokes around threat is i have a i have a bonus one anyone afraid they smell bad can spend money on this dumb test or they can use one can daily of my new hygiene product angst a body spray. That's worth we'll find out we're going to go to our resident judge aaron craft to. We have a winner of this episode. Seems like a joke like in the background of the simpsons like pana cross all these products and one of them's inks to body spray your unlevel with people who graduated harvard. I think i always knew it. What i just heard was your love with purple. who graduated. I mean that's also true. Jeremy and rick. I'm gonna give you all like an a. For effort because jerry had the four jokes and then rick that was a long way around for the health nelson jokes. I thought it was funny. But i also agree with bob's critique guy you sorta got away from the source material. They're a little bit of the out of her origin. I have a business. Counting people's pimples like similar to highlight of the route. Yes you're how's that going for you by the way the first one businesses popping actually ev. Everybody had good jokes. Jeremy's i joke the scientist and Bob's skunk joe's funny so good starts around it's actually kind of tough to judge this Because it kind of tapered off after the first so i'll second jokic pretty. Well what's happening anymore. He's really struggling. I'm i'm staring at my notes trying to figure out who i'm going to give the point to okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna just buy a who who landed the boast bobbin jeremy leonard to. I'll give you both a point. Oh and what does that. Make jeremy the winner of today's episode with two points. Yes that would make jeremy the winter. Batty congratulations no write it down to jeremiah. Martinez and erin craft the team. That can't be beat stoppable gronkowski over finally kastner hold on. We have a comment from air craft. Just compared him and jeremy tabriz in gronk pretty just like the most ridiculous bears were beaten votes. Oh no i guess it makes sense because you erin. Who's tom brady mixes the game and then gronk is also involved so too. Don't forget my half inflatables air out of these tires. please sir. All right carl kastner. Do you have any burning questions. Yeah okay so let's take it back to this. Most recent story about body odor. I want to know what during covid new have let go. If you have anything go Something that you did. You do differently now in terms of maybe hygiene or the way that you take care of yourself and masks. I stopped doing that. Started you work but then everybody started doing like salmon. You got some not really i mean. I've kept up pretty well. I've skipped brushing my teeth a couple times. But that's i think that's that's mainly due to the baby like i just get tired. I just sleep in freshman new I have worn a bra less times in the last year than in my entire life combined probably yours youtube version or the patriot new viewers. Tell us if you can tell. I wear a bra on. This show mean. Don't shirt she classes things up which is on the show. Whatever began xuemei. Make sure wearing a bra by. It's not every day. And so when i don't have assumed call a free but you've also also been recently only wearing the bra under the shirt. Right yeah yeah usually where. Obviously she's been wearing buse is the whole it. Just just hang on our own carly over the shirt not going to get to second half base that shortstop position i was watching arrested development the other day with my boyfriend and the like one of the last episodes of season three. They do a whole baseball analogy. Were george michael gets to second base with. Maybe and i'm always thinking like what is like what are the bases. And then i asked my boyfriend and he said he didn't know either. Are those this burning question within a burning question. Yes i actually really wanna know. Firstly over so first base is holding hands now is steady. With your best with baske- second step is a slap a wet one on that pretty face. What one. yeah why the barbecue restaurant and you get a wet one. No slap it on her face first. Base is making out second base is over. The close fondling third base is under the coast on lang and home is where the magic happens is well. It's third base stealing pinch-hitter what's going out for seven months and he's having sex for just stretch. Ricky rigi. you get tired too quick to sit so long. Legs fall asleep little song. Grank eric you. It's outdated games right. Do she was a basketball song. Like deep for the deep end Jaws game journey jaw would have been. Oh way different movie. If that had been a bigger bag of be nuts popcorn pay stinky popcorn. We had some heads. So i stuck my clothes. Dry cleaners brings him back. Thank you for keeping contracts. Cohen started been doing what stocking my clothes dry cleaned get. Something wet cleaned. Snap a wet one where blazers Well just but. But i would try to decent for the office and i hate ironing so But i don't go to the office much anymore. So i'll have to worry about. Conversely i started flying at night much more routinely than before. And it's because i've been going to the dental hygienists right like every like few like four months. That's a lot. Because i don't know 'cause i smoke and stuff so anyways i did and then i didn't Yeah they're told me to come back. And i'm like what i better just like do the routine because i can't afford like to be going to the dentist hygienists like every formats. You don't really don't know they're like mechanics. They tell you you need stuff. You don't need a one time. I had this dummy to have a cavity. And i said what happens if i don't take care. That's he said you're going to need a root canal. Three years later. I did not need a root canal transmission horrible. Why ask transmission. Wow what were you trying and floss. You're not going to be able to say you're ems anymore listeners. Don't take my advice. i'm not an expert. Don't like sumi because you didn't take your to listen to. 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Cut Like A Knife Abe Sada Pt. 1

Female Criminals

43:30 min | 8 months ago

Cut Like A Knife Abe Sada Pt. 1

"Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of sexual assault suicide sex work explicit sex and murder that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. There's an old saying if you love something. Set it free for most people in love. This is an impossible paradox. Who wants to let go of something you love and when the thing you love is a person things get more complicated obey. Sada was faced with that dilemma herself but when she felt like her hand was being forced she gathered the strength to say goodbye to her lover only she had no intention of letting him go picture a murderer. A gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman. We didn't think so society associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female. Everyone's day we examine the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals. Hi i'm vanessa richardson. And you're listening to female criminals. A spotify original from podcast. You can find episodes of female criminals and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. This week will meet obey sada a young japanese woman who longed to be a game show but was unable to join the elite profession. We'll follow sada's through sex work and romance and learn about the passionate romance with a married man. That changed her life forever next week. Will look at sada's gruesome crime and her attempts to evade authorities. Then we'll cover her sensational court case and discuss her lasting cultural legacy. This episode is brought to you by blue apron. Nourish your body unwind and learn new skills with blue apron's new three sixty approach to wellness. You'll experience all the benefits home. Cooking can bring with perfectly portioned ingredients and exciting recipes delivered right to your door. See what's on this week's menu get thirty dollars off across your first two deliveries when you visit blue apron dot com slash spotify. That's blue apron dot com slash spotify. This episode is brought to you by hallmark on valentine's day. Love is for all and homework. Cards are a great way to show everyone in your heart. How much you care about them. Shop a wide variety of cards to show your loved ones. You care at hallmark dot com slash spotify. This episode is brought to you by tapeh. Call tape a call. Is the app that lets you easily record any phone call and quickly transcribes recording into call notes so you can reference important details later. Download tape call today on an unknown date in nineteen o. Five sada was born in tokyo. At the time she was the families seventh child one more child followed but only sada and three of her older siblings would live to adulthood this made sada the unofficial back of the family. Her father obey she gay. Oh she was a good honest man but spent most of his time focused on the family matt making business not on his children. Sada's mother albay called. Sue doted on her youngest daughter. She spoiled sada giving her free rein to do as she pleased. Luckily for katsu sada shared many of her mother's interests namely singing and playing the shami san a traditional japanese instrument. These two hobbies might sound mundane but at the time in japan. They were skills closely associated with geisha and that was a subject that fascinated sada geishas were female entertainers who went through years of training in order to perform certain skills such as dancing or pouring ceremonial t coming to prominence in the seventeenth century. Their function was to flirt and entertain only not to give sexual favors to their male patrons. The only exception was if a client wanted to enter into a long term commitment with a particular geisha. Only then would she be expected to perform sexual acts but most of the time sex was off the table. Those things were starting to change in the early twentieth century. Some women couldn't complete the training required to be the most elite kind of geisha so they charged less for their services and the lesser the price the more their male clients assumed. The rule about sex didn't apply as a result. Many in the higher classes looked down on geisha as little more than sex workers but in the middle and lower classes were still idolized and two girls like sada. They embodied a pure and perfect vision of femininity. Sada coveted their beauty and desperately wanted their artistic skills still. She knew a future as one was unlikely. Her family expected her to make a good marriage to be a wife and mother not an entertainer. And that was that for now. As sada entered her teens. Drama too cold in the household sada's older siblings frequently disagreed over. Who would inherit the family business. Sometimes they're fights escalated into violence not wanting to witness these confrontations. Her parents often center out of the house until things cool down out on the town. Sodom meta group of new friends young women who were also given the freedom to leave the house unsupervised together. They explored the city often venturing into questionable neighborhoods but sada never thought to be wary of the people in her own group one night fifteen-year-old sada went over to a friend's house where she met an older boy named soccer ruggie. Ken sada and ken spent the evening talking. And at some point ended up alone in a room upstairs by sada's own account the to started to play around and then all of a sudden. Ken forced himself on top of her afterward. Saudi told her mother about the assault. Though rape wasn't uncommon especially bhai acquaintances going to the police to report. It just wasn't done doing so would require sada to publicly confess to what had happened. Which would ruin her reputation forever. It was far better for the families to deal with this privately. In other words for katsu to arrange a marriage between her daughter and her attacker but kevin's parents refused even here caught sues proposal. They were of a higher social class than sada's family and would never allow their son to marry beneath his station. Sada couldn't believe that a man could completely disregard his obligations. The assault would have no consequences for his life for reputation. Only hers the injustice of this sent her spiraling i into grief then denial and then confusion before we continue with sada's psychology. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist. But i have done a lot of research for the show according to clinical psychiatrist. Dr caitlyn aid. Shivers wilson. her two thousand six paper sexual assault and post traumatic stress disorder. Sexual assault survivors go through three distinct phases. The first is the acute phase which happens immediately after the assault when the survivor is in crisis and experiences a wide range of emotional reactions for sada this meant alternating between crying in bed and moments of pure rage. The second stage dr shivers. Wilson outlines is the outward adjustment phase at this stage survivors. Enter a high level of denial as they try to get back to their normal everyday activities. Saada wrote in her memoirs that she wanted to banish all memories of the assault from her mind and tried to convince herself that she could still have the life she had always planned on. The third and final phase identified by dr shivers. Wilson is long-term reorganization at this point survivors integrate the assault into their view of themselves according to author william johnston in his book geisha harlot strangler star sada internalized. All she had learned from the attack. That men were dishonest. That patients meant nothing and that she couldn't trust anyone having moved through all of these phases a struggle to discern between right and wrong and because of this she started to push boundaries. It was nothing too alarming. At first she slept in every morning and stayed out late each night fairly typical behavior from a teenager but soon she was stealing money from her parents to spend while out in the city and whatever she didn't spend she gave away to her friends then a year after her assault sada had another sexual encounter. This one was consensual but it was brief and meaningless in her mind. She was now damaged goods so she had no reason not to enjoy herself. Sada's parents were aware of what was happening but they looked the other way. It seemed that they wanted to give her space to process the assault but eventually they felt compelled to do something. They decided that their best option was to send sada a way to work as a housemaid to a wealthy families daughter they hoped this would give her some stability and focus but sixteen-year-olds sada felt trapped in her new position. She was used to wandering the city as she pleased and having no restrictions on her time for the first month she managed to stay on her best behavior but after that she simply couldn't be confined any longer one day she stole a komo and ring from her mistress and wore them out into the city. Sada had every intention of bringing the stolen items back in her mind. She'd simply borrowed them but before she could return to the house. The police found her. They brought her back where she was promptly fired after that sada returned home to her parents only now she wasn't the only child her parents had to worry about her older brother sheen. Taro had run off with the families. Savings leaving them. Destitute sada's father is only recourse was to sell his business and soon saw the and her parents packed up their belongings and left tokyo for the countryside. But sada hated there. She was used to life in a big city and suddenly had nothing to do to keep herself entertained. Seventeen-year-old sada started dressing up like a geisha with elaborate kimonos and stylized hair and makeup. She done this as a child but now she didn't just frolic around the house. She wore her costume out to local restaurants where she attracted the attention of many men before long. she was having multiple affairs for her sex. No longer meant anything. Just an activity to bring relief from the tedium of her life. After a few of these encounters sada began to strongly. Consider becoming a geisha for real after all. She believed her plan of being a wife and mother had been tossed out the window after her assault. Maybe now she really could be a geisha sada's father warmed to the idea. Although his motivation was slightly different than hers he wanted to control his daughters promiscuity. Selling to a geisha a solution. This might not seem to make sense but in one thousand nine hundred twenty s japan. It wasn't unheard of for women to join geisha houses or even brothels for a short period and then come home to mary first off it was totally legal for parents to sell their daughters into sex work and second history of sex work didn't prevent someone from making a respectable match while sada may have considered the assault a stain on her reputation. The cultural attitude towards sex work was much different at least for everyone outside the ruling class. In fact sada's father had sold sada's sister to a brothel for the same reason and it worked out just fine. After she returned she went on to marry an acceptable man. So in july nineteen twenty. Two sada's father sold his eighteen year old daughter to a geisha house in yokohama. He and his wife both hoped that this new venture would give sada a sense of security and stability and that she might return in a few years having matured but sada was defined that life as a geisha held little resemblance to her fantasy up next. Saudi learns what it takes to be an elite geisha. Hi it's vanessa from podcast. They say there's someone for everyone a soul to share your secrets with a companion to grow old with a conspirator to commit crimes with starting this february on spotify learn about the lethal and legendary lovers. Who fought the law in the park. Limited series criminal couples if you've ever referred to your best friend or beloved as your partner in crime. This exclusive series is for you beginning february. I join me for a collection of unlawful love. Stories from shows across the podcast network. Discover the extreme beliefs cult leaders. Tony and susan. Alamo enter fred and rose. 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Her father sold her to a geisha house. When sada arrived at the geisha house she believed she would eventually be one of its highly trained performers. All she needed to do was work hard and pay attention but at eighteen she was getting a late. Start of elite. Geisha had already put in years of training. By the time they were sought as age. Not only that as the newest geisha apprentice she was judged harshly for every little thing she did after only a few weeks. The pressure was too much for her. She transferred to another geisha house. Called hsun sheen me. No there saadah thrived. She rose quickly through the ranks graduating from apprentice to full fledged geisha. But even with this official distinction. She still found herself at a disadvantage. She simply couldn't compete with the geisha. Who'd been training since childhood plus the men who patronized these new wave geisha establishments didn't wanna hear her sing or watch her dad's they wanted sexual favors at first sada turned her nose up at the idea of selling herself for sex but it quickly became apparent that doing so would be the best way for her to make money. A- gatien needed to earn an income in order to pay back her debts to the house for things like room and board then once again manage to pay that back. She still needed money to buy clothes and cosmetics so to justify to herself sada decided to think of sex as play instead of work at least that way she could pretend she was getting something out of it and she told herself that no matter what. She was finally a geisha something she'd always aspired to be. But as far as japanese society was concerned sada was much closer to a sex worker than a revered geisha. The worst part was she wasn't even making the kind of money illegal. Sex worker could make geishas may have been highly regarded but their income paled in comparison to what a sex worker could clear. Saad felt trapped so she lashed out mainly by stealing items from the other geisha and ponding them off for a little extra cash. According to ethicist and professor manuel cap capstein people who feel that their choices are already predetermined are actually more likely to bend the rules. This was certainly the case for sada. Who was stuck in her employment on the surface. Her actions were a ploy to get more spending money but at a deeper level her life had spiraled out of control and she was looking for a way to take back her agency for a little while it seemed to work. Sada got away with a few thefts and she felt driven by the sense of purpose. It gave her but eventually she was caught and once again the police were involved in the end. They didn't charge her with theft. But her new geisha house. Let her go. Sada was distraught. She may not have liked the work she was doing at shunichi me no but it was the only thing she knew how to do. She see herself being successful in any other ventures especially not. If people knew about her background she wanted to find work as a geisha again and a family friend arranged for her to work at another house. It was called miekel. Why but this geisha house was little more than a brothel and like a brothel. It required all of its women to undergo regular syphilis examinations. At meco wia no one had any delusions about what went on behind closed doors so sada submitted to the test and found out. She was positive the diagnosis stunned her. The one thing she'd held onto all this time was that she wasn't a sex worker. She was a geisha and yet she had contracted an s. t. d. now sada realize that she'd been lying to herself. She was a sex worker plain and simple and if she just accepted it she could make a lot more money but it wasn't an easy transition for her to make. She spent the next several years performing sexual acts as a geisha and moving from one house to another perhaps building the courage to leave her dream behind finally on new year's day. Nineteen twenty seven twenty. Two two year old sada moved to osaka and began her new life. She began work at a bravo called me scenario which she later described in her memoirs us having sophisticated clientele. She convinced herself that she was happy enough with her choice and threw herself into her work. But just as she had at her previous workplaces sada grew disillusioned soon. She found herself wanting to leave the sex industry entirely however leaving was much easier said than done especially in nineteen twenties japan where registered sex workers were legally bound to their contracts. If they ever tried to leave their jobs without permission brothel owners could prosecute them to the full extent of the law sometimes that tracking the woman down and dragging her back to her post other times. It meant seizing property from the woman's families to compensate over the next three years sought moved from brothel to brothel dreaming about the day. She could leave the sex industry for good each day made her more unhappy and she desperately wanted to start over somewhere new. She tried multiple times escape but at least once. She made the mistake of tagging people. Her plans leading to her capture. Even when she stayed quiet about her intentions she was still given up to the authorities and brought back to work and each time this happened. She was sent to a worse establishment. Gradually she fell. Further and further down the totem pole until she was forced to stand out on the streets and lure customers inside which at the time was an extremely demeaning position but sada could not be deterred. She was determined to escape in nineteen thirty two after nearly ten years of life as a geisha and then a sex worker twenty-seven-year-old sada made one last attempt. This time she managed to slip away from her brothel undetected. She made a bee line for the train and fled to the city of kobe there. She changed her name and slipped into obscurity. And this time. She made sure not to tell anyone where she had gone. Sada had learned her lesson if she wanted to be free. The only person she could trust was herself in kobe. Sada found work as a waitress but the pay was dismal and sada had grown news to a certain lifestyle for all the things. She disliked about the geisha houses. And brothels at least her everyday needs were always taken care of now. She was completely on her own struggling to make ends meet. Within a few months now twenty eight-year-old sada returned to sex work. But this time as a mistress at first sada was a mistress to three different men. She found that it was the best of both worlds. She was still selling sex but now she had a say in which men she engaged with and she kept it to a select few. This was a major turning point for her for the first time in many years sada and join sex again to her. This setup felt less transactional and more relational sure. The men were still paying her but they were paying for her company. I and her sexual favors second. It made a huge difference in sada's mind now at last able to enjoy sex. She was surprised by the strength of her desire. She had spent so many years. Resenting sex and what. It symbolized in her life but now that she had some agency over her body again. She found that she didn't just enjoy sex. She needed it over the next few years. She was involved with several men. Most of them she enjoyed but in nineteen thirty five. After a dismal break-up with one of them thirty year old sada fled to nagoya. To start over again there. She tried once again to make a clean break from her previous profession. She got another job as a waitress and things seem to be going well but old habits die. Hard in april of that year met an aspiring politician named. Goro mia who came to her restaurant multiple times. He took an immediate liking to sada. She thought he was a gentleman and wanted him to like her so she lied about her background. She told him that her husband had died and that she was working to save up money to care for her infant daughter back in tokyo omya bought the story and he kept coming back to the restaurant to spend more time with sada one night not long after they met. He invited her to join him for dinner in a private room. As the two sat next to each other and talked sada scooted closer to him. She knew what she wanted and it was him. She put a hand on his lap and he warned her that it was a rousing. They should be careful. He said in case anyone came into the room but sada wasn't worried about that. She pressed in closer and then omya couldn't hold himself back any longer. The two had sex right there in the restaurant over the next three years sada and omya had a passionate off and on relationship. They saw each other as often as possible. But oh mia traveled for work. A lot and saida herself wasn't keen on spending too much time in one place all the while she continued earning money as a mistress for a few other men. Eventually she moved back to tokyo making up a story about how her fake daughter had died. So that all meow wouldn't wonder where the little girl was. Omya didn't find out sato was lying to him. Then but at some point he learned the truth about sada she had never been married but had been a sex worker instead. Interestingly this didn't seem to faze him but then sada contracted syphilis again. That was enough for. Oh mia to ease off for a bit. If only for his own health but even if he wasn't rushing to have sex with her he still took care of sada he even sent her to a hot springs resort to try to cure the disease when thirty one year old sod returned from the resort in january nineteen thirty six omya suggested that she try her hand at running a small business instead of engaging in any more sex work. He thought she could eventually run a restaurant herself. She just needed to apprentice somewhere to learn. The ins and outs of the business sada liked the idea of that. This could be her to truly put her past behind her so she started looking around for opportunities less than a month later in february of nineteen. Thirty six sada began work as an apprentice at the yoshi dia restaurant in tokyo but rather than keeping her head down and learning the ropes. She found her attention focused on something else. Her married boss up next a passionate affair turns into a deadly obsession. This episode is brought to you by hallmark. 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Nineteen thirty. six omega suggested thirty one year old sada get out of the sex industry for good. At his encouragement. She took a new job as a waitress in a tokyo. Restaurant called yoshi dia. The restaurant was owned by forty two year. Old key zoe shida but was run by his wife. Oh tohoku ishida had been a great businessman for many years but by this point in his life he was less concerned with work and more focused on maintaining affairs with various women. When sada started work at yoshi dia thought ishida was attractive. But she didn't think of him as anything other than the restaurant's proprietor. Most of her days were spent working side by side with his wife. But while sada may not have been thinking much about ishida. He was certainly intrigued by her only a short time after she started working for him is she began making advances that i it was flirtatious banter then playful touches in hallways and soon it escalated to overtly sexual behavior during this time sato was still technically with. Oh mia but their sexual relationship peds seemingly fizzled out. He wanted to help her become financially independent and promised to support her however he could but he no longer wanted her for sex. Sodomite have taken offense to that except that she already had someone else interested in her so it wasn't really an issue. It seems that more than anything else. Solder loved fuelling wanted. Andy shida definitely accomplished that. He made it extremely apparent that he was attracted to her and when he couldn't take the workplace four play any longer he arranged for the to be alone together one night while working sada was asked to bring some sunday to a customer in a private back room. She did as ordered only defined. Ishida waiting for her there. He pulled her onto his lap and it was clear what he wanted before they could become intimate show and sang the song. It was as if she'd a new the power. The geisha had over sada as soon as she heard the woman sing. Sada was utterly entranced after the geisha exited. The room sada andy. Shida turned to each other. They had sex right there in the back room while his wife was only a short ways. Away running the restaurant. It wasn't the only time they had sex at the restaurant either. After that night the to couldn't keep their hands off each other. They tried to slip away at every possible opportunity. One time a made even walked in on them and soon everyone who worked at the restaurant knew about the affair but that didn't stop them. According to japanese norms at the time it was a sheet as prerogative as a man to engage in whatever sexual encounters he wanted meanwhile his wife o taku had had an affair of her own a year earlier so she looked the other way and allowed it to go on as things progressed. Sada andy shida realized that even if they could keep having sex at the restaurant they probably should find another place so in april of nineteen thirty six. Sada andy shida got room at a teahouse which was the japanese equivalent of a love hotel. They only planned on a brief stay to have sex but ended up staying for four days. Straight leading up to the tryst. Sada wasn't sure that her encounters with these shida would amount to anything more than a fling but during their time at the teahouse something changed. She fell completely and utterly in love with these shida. She felt that he trusted her with his secrets that he was intimate with her. Not just physically but emotionally to. They left the teahouse around. April twenty-seventh only to move to another establishment. They didn't want he sheet his wife to find them. She may have accepted the affair. But that didn't mean she wanted her husband to be gone for a week straight but by now it seems neither ashida or sada cared about what. Oh tokyo wanted. They had other things on their mind at the new teahouse sada. Ishida continued to roll in the sheets and get drunk on sake. They even had geisha. Come and sing to them again. He decided to return to the real world. It was only because they had run out of money. They had to return to their normal lives to refill their purses but as she said goodbye sada found herself overwhelmed with jealousy in the last two weeks she had fallen in love with ashida and it tore her to pieces that he had to go back to another woman even if it was to his wife she wanted him all to herself and she couldn't stop thinking about it but then a solution to her problem presented itself during a trip to the theater on may ninth nineteen thirty six sada attended a play called new tales of the erotic. The story fascinated her especially the part. Where a geisha stabs her lover with a knife that night as sada exit the theater a thought took hold in her mind. Ishita would never be entirely hers but there had to be a way to control shida to make him belonged to her. Suddenly she saw another path towards that a way that they could be together forever. They had to die both of them. She would kill him first and then herself in a strange way with this decision sada was taking on a traditionally masculine role in the relationship while women often get jealous of their romantic partners. It's very rare that they resort to violence or commit murder. This is much more common for men. And according to professor aaron benza. When men murder their wives it's often out of a fear of being left they kill as a way to control the relationship and make it last forever. This was exactly what sada was doing. Like the men and benza. ebbs case studies. She felt that her entire identity was now wrapped up any shida. If she couldn't have him completely then she didn't know how to be in a relationship with him at all. sharing him simply wasn't an option anymore so two days later she bought a knife that same night. Sada medi shida for another round of intense lovemaking. They remained in bed for two days. And the entire time sada was conflicted. She loved this man but she also hated that he wasn't hers. He swore that he hadn't slept with his wife since he and sought had become lovers. But she simply didn't believe him at some point probably when the jealousy flared up sadhu shoddy sheet of a small knife. She had brought with her. She held it close to his genitals and told him he could never be with another woman otherwise she would carve him up. Ishita laughed at her comment. He thought she was just playing around. He had no idea that there was something much darker going on with his lover later as the too laid in bed together saad suggested they either run away leaving their old lives behind or else die by suicide together once again. Nishioka didn't take her words seriously. He saw no reason they couldn't continue on with their relationship just the way it was but sada new better. It didn't matter if he couldn't see things the way she could. She would take care of everything for the both of them. Sada waited for the perfect moment to end her lover's life and it came in the early hours of may eighteenth after a particularly rough bout of sex where the couple experimented with choking. Ishida took a sedative to help with the lingering pain as the drugs kicked in he turned to sada and jokingly told her not to strangle him in his sleep sada laid in bed next to her lover and watched as he does dauth. She wondered whether you had sensed what she was planning or if it had indeed just been a choke. It didn't matter either way. Her mind was made up when she was sure he was fast asleep. Sada's sat up. This was the moment. She grabbed her silk sash and wrapped it around e sheet his neck. He opened his eyes. Just as saad whispered. Forgive me and then. She pulled the sash tight. Thanks again for tuning into female. Criminals will be back next week with part two where sada finally goes through with her murderous plan for more information on obey sada amongst the many sources we used. We found the book. Geisha harlot strangler star a woman sex and morality in modern japan. By william johnstone extremely helpful to our research you can find all episodes of female criminals. And all other spotify originals. From podcast for free on. Spotify will see you next time. Female criminals is a spotify original. From podcast it is executive produced by max cutler. Sound design by dick schroeder with production assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and josh will kern. This episode of female criminals was written by alex burns with writing assistance by joel. Callan fact checking by haley. Milliken and research by mickey taylor and chelsea would. I'm vanessa richardson. Hi it's vanessa again before you go. Don't forget to check out the new podcast. Limited series criminal couples from apocalyptic cult leaders to bank robbing bandits to married mafiosos. These couples give new meaning to till death. Do us part. Enjoy a two part episodes every monday. 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S17: Love: Abe Sada Pt. 1

"Sold to a geisha house at eighteen years old obey sada hope to live a life among the elite geishas singing and dancing but when clients were more interested in her body. She decided to pursue a more lucrative profession. If you enjoy these episodes and want to hear more stories about female felons psychology motivations and atrocities follow. Female criminals released every wednesday. Listen free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of sexual assault suicide sex work explicit sex and murder that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. There's an old saying if you love something. Set it free for most people in love. This is an impossible paradox. Who wants to let go of something you love and when the thing you love is a person things get more complicated rb. Sada was faced with that dilemma herself but when she felt like her hand was being forced she gathered the strength to say goodbye to her lover only she had no intention of letting him go picture a murderer. A gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman. We didn't think so society associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female. Everyone's day we examine the psychology motivations and cities of female criminals. Hi i'm vanessa richardson. And you're listening to female criminals. A spotify original from podcast. You can find episodes of female criminals and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever. You listen to podcasts this week. We'll meet obey sada a young japanese woman who longed to be a geisha but was unable to join the league profession. we'll follow sada's journey through sex work and romance and learn about the passionate romance with a married man that changed her life forever. 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This episode is brought to you by carmax at carmax. The best way to buy car is your way choose from over. Fifty thousand carmax certified at carfax dot com and buy online or in store with curbside pickup and home delivery in select markets. Get all the details today at carmax dot com on an unknown date in nineteen o. Five obey. Sada was born in tokyo. At the time she was the families seventh child one more child followed but only sada and three of her older siblings would live to adulthood. This made sada the unofficial baby of the family. Her father obey she gay. Oh she was a good honest man but he spent most of his time focused on the family matt making business not on his children. Sada's mother obey katsu doted on her youngest daughter. She's spoiled sada giving her free rein to do as she pleased. Luckily for katsu sada shared many of her mother's interests namely singing playing the shami san a traditional japanese instrument. These two hobbies might sound mundane but at the time in japan. They were skills closely associated with geisha and that was a subject that fascinated sada geishas were female entertainers who went through years of training in order to perform certain skills such as dancing or pouring ceremonial t coming to prominence in the seventeenth. Their function was to flirt and entertain only not to give sexual favors to their male patrons. The only exception was if a client wanted to enter into a long term commitment with a particular geisha. Only then would she be expected to perform sexual acts but most of the time sex was off the table though things were starting to change in the early twentieth century. Some women couldn't complete the training required to be the most elite kind of geisha so they charged less for their services and the lesser the price the more their male clients assumed. The rule about sex didn't apply as a result. Many in the higher classes looked down on geisha as little more than sex workers but in the middle and lower classes gay show were still idolized and two girls like sada. They embodied a pure and perfect vision of femininity. Sada coveted their beauty and desperately wanted their artistic skills still. She knew a future as one was unlikely. Her family expected her to make a good marriage to be a wife and mother not an entertainer. And that was that for now as sada entered her teens. Drama took hold in the obey household. Sada's older siblings frequently disagreed over. Who would inherit the family. Business times fights escalated into violence. Not wanting solder to witness these confrontations. Her parents often center out of the house until things cooled down out on the town. Sada meta group of new friends. You're women who were also given the freedom to leave the house on supervised together. They explored the city often venturing into questionable neighborhoods but sada never thought to be wary of the people in her own group. One night fifteen year. Old sada went over to a friend's house where she met an older boy named soccer ruggie. Ken sada and ken spent the evening. Talking and at some point ended up alone. A room upstairs by sada's own account the to started to play around and then all of a sudden. Ken forced himself on top of her afterward. Saadeh told her mother about the assault. Though rape wasn't uncommon especially by acquaintances going to the police to report. It just wasn't done doing so would require sada to publicly confess to what had happened. Which would ruin her reputation forever. It was far better for the families to deal with this privately. In other words for katsu to arrange a marriage between her daughter and her attacker but kevin's parents refused to even here caught sues proposal. They were of a higher social class than sada's family and would never allow their son to marry beneath his station. Sada couldn't believe that a man could completely disregard his obligations. The assault would have no consequences for his life or reputation. Only the injustice of this sent her spiraling i into grief then denial and then confusion before we continue with sada's psychology. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist. But i have done a lot of research for the show according to clinical psychiatrist. Dr caitlyn aid shivers wilson in her two thousand six paper sexual assault and post traumatic stress disorder. Sexual assault survivors go through three distinct phases. The first is the acute phase which happens immediately after the assault when the survivor is in crisis and experiences a wide range of emotional reactions for sada this meant alternating between crying in bed and moments of pure rage. The second stage dr shivers. Wilson outlines is the outward adjustment phase at this stage survivors. Enter a high level of denial as they try to get back to their normal everyday activities sought wrote in her memoirs that she wanted to banish all memories of the assault from her mind and tried to convince yourself that she could still have the life she had always planned on. The third and final phase identified by dr chavez. Wilson is long-term reorganization at this point survivors integrate the assault into their view of themselves. According to author william johnston in his book geisha harlot strangler star sada internalized. She had learned from the attack. That men were dishonest. That obligation meant nothing and that she couldn't trust anyone having moved through all of these phases sada struggle to discern between right and wrong and because of this she started to push boundaries. It was nothing too alarming. At first she slept in every morning and stayed out late each night fairly typical behavior from a teenager but soon she was stealing money from her parents to spend while out in the city and whatever she didn't spend she gave away to her friends then a year after her assault sada had another sexual encounter. This one was consensual but it was brief and meaningless in her mind. She was now damaged goods so she had no reason not to enjoy herself. Sada's parents were aware of what was happening but they looked the other way. It seemed that they wanted to give her space to process the assault. But eventually day felt compelled to do something. They decided that their best option was to send sada a way to work is a housemaid to a wealthy families daughter. They hoped this would give her some stability and focus but sixteen-year-olds sada felt trapped in her new position. She was used to wandering the city as she pleased and having no restrictions on her time for the first month she managed to stay on her best behavior but after that she simply couldn't be confined any longer one day she stole a komo and ring from her mistress and wore them out into the city. Sada had every intention of bringing the stolen items back in her mind. She'd simply borrowed them but before she could return to the house. The police found her. They brought her back where she was promptly fired after that saad returned home to her parents only now. She wasn't the only child her parents had to worry about her older brother sheen. Taro had run off with the family savings. leaving them. destitute is father's only recourse was to sell his business and soon saw the and her parents packed up their belongings and left tokyo for the countryside. But sada there. She was used to life in a big city and suddenly had nothing to do to keep herself entertained. Seventeen-year-old sada started dressing up like a geisha with elaborate kimonos and stylized hair and makeup. She done this as a child but now she didn't just frolic around the house. She wore her costume out to local restaurants where she attracted the attention of many men before long. she was having multiple affairs for her sex. No longer meant anything. It was just an activity to bring relief from the tedium of her life. After a few of these encounters sada began to strongly. Consider becoming a geisha for real after all. She believed that her plan of being a wife and mother had been tossed out the window after her assault. Maybe now she really could be a geisha sada's father warm to the idea. Although his motivation was slightly different than hers he wanted to control his daughters promiscuity. Selling her to a geisha house could be a solution. This might not seem to make sense but in nineteen twenties japan. It wasn't unheard of for women to join geisha houses or even brothels for a short period and then come home to marry first off it was totally legal for parents to sell their daughters into sex work and second a history of sex work didn't prevent someone from making a respectable match while sada may have considered the assault a stain on her reputation. The cultural attitude towards sex work was much different at least for everyone outside the ruling class. In fact sada's father had sold sada's sister to a brothel for the same reason and it worked out just fine. After she returned she went onto marry an acceptable man. So in july nineteen twenty. Two sada's father sold his eighteen year old daughter to a geisha house in yokohama. He and his wife both hoped that this new venture would give sada a sense of security and stability and that she might return in a few years having matured but sada was to find that life as a geisha held little resemblance to her fantasy up. 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She was getting a late start. Other elite geisha had already put in years of training. By the time they were sada's age not only that as the newest geisha apprentice she was judged harshly for every little thing she did after only a few weeks. The pressure was too much for her. She transferred to another geisha house. Called hsun sheen. Mino there saadah thrived. She rose quickly through the ranks graduating from apprentice to full fledged geisha. But even with this official distinction. She still found herself at a disadvantage. She simply couldn't compete with the geisha. Who'd been training since childhood. Plus the men who patronize these new wave geisha establishments didn't want to hear her sing or watch her dad's they wanted sexual favors. At first sada turned her nose up at the idea of selling herself for sex but it quickly became apparent that doing so would be the best way for her to make money. A- gatien needed to earn an income in order to pay back her debts to the house for things like room and board then once a geisha managed to pay that back. She still needed money to buy clothes and cosmetics so to justify it to herself sada decided to think of sex as play instead of work. At least that way she could pretend she was getting something out of it and she told herself that no matter what. She was finally a geisha something. she'd always aspired to be. But as far as japanese society was concerned sato was much closer to a sex worker than a revered geisha. The worst part was she wasn't even making the kind of money illegal. Sex worker could make geishas may have been highly regarded but their income paled in comparison to what a sex worker could clear. Sada felt trapped so she lashed out mainly by stealing items from the other geisha and putting them off for a little extra cash. According to ethicist and professor manuel cap capstein people who feel that their choices are already predetermined are actually more likely to bend the rules. This was certainly the case for sada. Who was stuck in her employment on the surface. Her actions were ploy to get more spending money but at a deeper level. Her life had spiraled out of control and she was looking for a way to take back her agency for a little while. It seemed to work. Sada got away with a few thefts and she felt driven by the sense of purpose. It gave her but eventually she was caught and once again the police were involved in the end. They didn't charge her with theft but her new geisha let her go. Sada was distraught. She may not have liked the work she was doing at shunichi me no but it was the only thing she knew how to do. She didn't see herself being successful in any other ventures especially not. If people knew about her background she wanted to find work as a geisha again and a family friend arranged for her to work at another house. It was called michaela but this geisha house was little more than a brothel and like brothel it required all of its women to undergo regular civilised examinations at meco wia no one had any delusions about what went on behind closed doors so sada submitted to the test and found out. She was positive. The diagnosis stunned her. The one thing she had held onto all this time was that she wasn't a sex worker. She was a geisha and yet she had contracted an s. t. d. Now sada realized that she'd been lying to herself. She was a sex worker plain and simple and if she just accepted she could make a lot more money but it wasn't an easy transition for her to make. She spent the next several years performing sexual acts as a geisha and moving from one house to another perhaps building the courage to leave her dream behind finally on new year's day. Nineteen twenty seven twenty. Two year old sada moved to osaka and began her new life. She began work at bravo. Called me so naro which she later described in her memoirs as having sophisticated clientele. She convinced herself that she was happy enough with her choice and threw herself into her work. But just as she had her previous workplaces sada grew disillusioned soon. She found herself wanting to leave the sex industry entirely however leaving was much easier said than done especially in nineteen twenties japan where registered sex workers were legally bound to their contracts. If they ever tried to leave their jobs without permission brothel owners could prosecute them to the full extent of the law. Sometimes that meant tracking the woman down and dragging her back to her post other times. It meant seizing property from the woman's families to compensate over the next three years sada moved from brothel to brothel dreaming about the day. She could leave the sex industry for good each day made her more unhappy and she desperately wanted to start over somewhere new. She tried multiple times to escape but at least once she made the mistake of telling people her plans leading to her capture even when she stayed quiet about her intentions she was still given up to the authorities and brought back to work and each time. This happened she was sent to a worse establishment gradually she fell further and further down the totem pole until she was forced to stand out on the streets and lure customers inside which at the time was an extremely demeaning position but sada could not be deterred. She was determined to escape in nineteen. Thirty two after nearly ten years of life is a geisha and then a sex worker twenty-seven-year-old sada made one last attempt. This time she managed to slip away from her brothel undetected. She made a beeline for the train and fled to the city of kobe. There she changed her name and slipped into obscurity. And this time. She made sure not to tell anyone where she had gone. Sada had learned her lesson if she wanted to be free. The only person she could trust was herself in kobe. Sada found work as a waitress but the pay was dismal and sorta had grown news to a certain lifestyle for all the things. She disliked about the geisha houses. And brothels at least her everyday needs were always taken care of now. She was completely on her own struggling to make ends meet within a few months now. Twenty eight year old sada returned to sex work but this time as a mistress et first sada was a mistress to three different men. She found it was the best of both worlds. She was still selling sex but now she had a say in which men she engaged with and she kept it to a select few. This was a major turning point for her for the first time in many years sada and joined sex again to her. This setup felt less transactional and more relational sure. The men were still paying her but they were paying for her company. I and her sexual favors second. It made a huge difference in sada's mind now at last able to enjoy sex. She was surprised by the strength of her desire. She had spent so many years. Resenting sex and what. It symbolized in her life but now that she had some agency over her body again. She found that she didn't just enjoy sex. She added it over the next few years. She was involved with several men. Most of them she enjoyed but in nineteen thirty five after a dismal breakup with one of them thirty year old sada fled to nagoya to start over again there. She tried once again to make a clean break from her previous profession. She got another job as a waitress and things seem to be going well but old habits die hard in april of that year. Saadeh met an aspiring politician. Not go omya who came to her restaurant multiple times. He took an immediate liking to sada. She thought he was a gentleman and wanted him to like her so she lied about her background. She told him that her husband had died and that she was working to save up money to care for her infant daughter back in tokyo omi bought the story and he kept coming back to the restaurant to spend more time with sada one night not long after they met. He invited her to join him for dinner in a private room. As the two sat next to each other and talked sada scooted closer to him. She knew what she wanted and it was him. She put a hand on his lap and he warned her that it was a rousing. They should be careful. He said in case anyone came into the room but sada wasn't worried about that. She pressed in closer and then omya couldn't hold himself back any longer. The two had sex right there in the restaurant over the next three years sada and oh had a passionate off and on relationship. They saw each other as often as possible but omaha travelers for work. A lot and saida herself wasn't keen on spending too much time in one place all the while she continued earning money as a mistress for a few other men. Eventually she moved back to tokyo making up a story about how her fake daughter had died. So that oh. Meow wouldn't wonder where the little girl was. Omya didn't find out soda was lying to him then but at some point he learned the truth about sada never been married but had been a sex worker instead. Interestingly this didn't seem to faze him but then sada contracted syphilis again that was enough for all meow to ease offer a bit if only for his own health but even if he wasn't rushing to have sex with her he still took care of sada he even sent her to a hot springs resort to try to cure the disease when thirty one year old sod return from the resort in january nineteen. Thirty six omya suggested that she try her hand at running a small business instead of engaging in any more sex work he thought she could eventually run a restaurant herself. She just needed to apprentice somewhere to learn. The ins and outs of the business sada liked the idea that this could be her chance to truly put her past behind her so she started looking around for opportunities less than a month later in february of nineteen thirty. Six sada began work as an apprentice. At the yoshi dia restaurant in tokyo but rather than keeping her head down and learning the ropes. She found her attention focused on something else. Her married boss up next a passionate affair turns into a deadly obsession. This episode is brought to you by boogie from acclaimed writer producer. An restaurant tour eddie. Long comes his directorial. Debut boogie the coming of age story of boogie. 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Only for a dollar at mcdonalds order ahead on the app. Prices and participation may vary now back to the story after escaping her brothels employment contract albay sada fled to a new city and became a mistress to wealthy men. This work provided her with an excellent lifestyle for years and led her to meet the last of her main patrons. Goro omi but in nineteen thirty six omi as suggested thirty one year old sada get out of the sex industry for good at his encouragement. She took a new job as a waitress in a tokyo. Restaurant called yoshi dia. The restaurant was owned by forty two year. Old key cheese. Oh ishida but was run by his wife. Oh toko ishida had been a great businessman for many years but by this point is life. He was less concerned with work and more focused on maintaining affairs with various women when sorta started work at yoshi diarrhea. She thought ishida was attractive. But she didn't think of him as anything other than the restaurant's proprietor. Most of her days were spent working side by side with his wife. But while sada may not have been thinking much about ishida. He was certainly intrigued by her only a short time after she started working for him ishita began making advances that i it was flirtatious banter then playful touches in hallways and soon it escalated to overtly sexual behavior during this time sada was still technically with. Oh mia but their sexual relationship had seemingly fizzled out. He wanted to help her become financially independent and promised to support her however he could but he no longer wanted her for sex sodom might have taken offense to that except that she already had someone else interested in her so it wasn't really an issue. It seems that more than anything else sada loved feeling wanted and he. She did not accomplish that he made it extremely apparent that he was attracted to her and when he couldn't take the workplace for play any longer he arranged for the to be alone together one night while working sada was asked to bring some salka to a customer in a private back. Room did as ordered only defined. Ishida waiting for her there. He pulled her onto his lap and it was clear what he wanted before they could become intimate a- geisha arrived and sang them a song. It was as if he shida new the power. The geisha had over sada as soon as she heard the woman sing. Sada was utterly entranced after the geisha exited. The room sada. Andy shida turn to each other. They had sex right there in the back room while his wife was only a short ways. Away running the restaurant. It wasn't the only time they had sex at the restaurant either. After that night the to couldn't keep their hands off each other. They tried to slip away at every possible opportunity. One time a made even walked in on them and soon everyone who worked at the restaurant knew about the affair but that didn't stop them. According to japanese norms at the time it was a she does prerogative as a man to engage in whatever sexual encounters he wanted meanwhile his wife oh toecu had had an affair of her own a year earlier so she looked the other way and allowed it to go on as things progressed. Sada andy shida realized that even if they could keep having sex at the restaurant they probably should find another place so in april of nineteen thirty. Six andy shida. Got a room at a teahouse. Which was the japanese equivalent of a love hotel. They only planned on a brief stay to have sex but up staying for four days. Straight leading. Up to the tryst. Sada wasn't sure that her encounters with these shida would amount to anything more than a fling but during their time at the teahouse something changed. She fell completely and utterly in love with these shida. She felt that he trusted her with his secrets that he was intimate with her. Not just but emotionally to. They left the teahouse around. April twenty-seventh only move to another establishment. They didn't wadi sheet his wife to find them. She may have accepted the affair. But that didn't mean she wanted her husband to be gone for a week straight but by now it seems neither shida or sada cared about what. Oh toko wanted. They had other things on their mind. At the new teahouse sada. Any shida continued to roll in the sheets and get drunk on sake. They even had geisha come and sing to them again. When they finally decided to return to the real world it was only because they had run out of money they had to return to their normal lives to refill their purses but as she said goodbye sada found herself overwhelmed with jealousy in the last two weeks she had fallen in love with shida and it tore her to pieces that he had to go back to another woman even if it was to his wife she wanted him all to herself and she couldn't stop thinking about it but then a solution to her problem presented itself during a trip to the theater on may ninth nineteen thirty six sada attended a play called new tales of the erotic. The story fascinated her especially the part. Where a geisha stabbed her lover with a knife that night as sada exited the theater a thought took hold in her mind. Ishita would never be entirely hers but there had to be a way to control shida to make him belong to her. Suddenly she saw another path towards that away that they could be together forever. They had to die both of them. She would kill him first and then herself in a strange way with this decision sada was taking on a traditionally masculine role in the relationship while women often get jealous of their romantic partners. It's very rare that they resort to violence or commit murder. This is much more common for men. And according to professor aaron benza. When men murder their wives it's often out of a fear of being left they kill as a way to control the relationship and make it last forever. This was exactly what sato was doing. Like the men in benza. Ebbs case studies. She felt that her entire identity was now wrapped up any shida. If she couldn't have him completely then she didn't know how to be in a relationship with him at all. Schering him simply wasn't an option anymore so two days later she bought a knife that same night. Sada medi shida for another round of intense love making. They remained in bed for two days. And the entire time sada was conflicted. She loved this man but she also hated that he wasn't hers. He swore that he hadn't slept with his wife since he and sada had become lovers but she simply didn't believe him at some point. Probably when the jealousy flared up sada showed a sheet of a small knife she had brought with her. She held it close to his genitals and told him he could never be with another woman otherwise she would carve him up. Ishita laughed at her comment. He thought she was just playing around. He had no idea that there was something much darker going on with his lover later as the too late in bed together sada suggested they either run away leaving their old lives behind or else die by suicide together once again. He nishioka didn't take her word seriously. He saw no reason they couldn't continue on with their relationship just the way it was but sada new better. It didn't matter if he couldn't see things the way she could. She would take care of everything for the both of them. Sada waited for the perfect moment to end her lover's life and it came in the hours of may eighteenth after a particularly rough bout of sex. Where the couple experimented with choking. Ishida took a sedative to help with the lingering pain as the drugs kicked in he turned to sada and kingly told her not to strangle him in his sleep sada late in bed next to her lover and watched as he dozed off. She wondered whether he had sensed what she was planning. Or if it had indeed just been a joke. It didn't matter either way. Her mind was made up when she was sure he was fast asleep. Sada sat up. This was the moment. She grabbed her silk sash and wrapped it around his sheet as neck. He opened his eyes. Just as sada whispered. Forgive me and then. She pulled the sash tight. Thanks again for tuning into female. Criminals will be back next week with part two where sada finally goes through with her murderous plan for more information on ebay sada amongst the many sources we used. We found the book. Geisha harlot strangler star a woman sex and morality in modern japan. By william johnston extremely helpful to our research you can find all episodes of criminals. And all other spotify originals. From podcast for free on. Spotify will see you next time. Female criminals is a spotify original. From podcast it is executive produced by max cutler. Sound designed by dick schroeder with production assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and joshua kern. This episode of female criminals was written by alex burns with writing assistance by joel callan. Fact checking by haley milliken and research. Mickey taylor and chelsea would. I'm vanessa richardson.

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#87  Especial de NATAL! 30 anos de Esqueceram de Mim!

Cueca Apertada

21:16 min | 9 months ago

#87 Especial de NATAL! 30 anos de Esqueceram de Mim!

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Japanese Lipstick

Bad In The Boondocks

1:20:45 hr | 1 year ago

Japanese Lipstick

"Own Today's episode the first of the New Year Twenty Twenty we're discussing Sadda- obey and the lipstick murderer you're listening to bad in the boondocks walks. Baby Yeah I would batted Matt in the South in the in welcome to bad in the Boondocks as always I am one on a piano. Saint Andrew How's it going everybody Hope that everyone had a superb Christmas and fantastic Fuckin- in year. We partied all night long. On New Year's just kidding I was asleep by on the clock I was too but anyway that's how we party in the Boondocks. Yeah not much exciting ever really goes on around here and what we did shoot fireworks just like as soon as darkness. Gus Yes I know. We sholom around like six o'clock and misspelled it. While data Cain hang you know those party in days is over and it's been quite a while but we really do thank everybody that stuck around and his listening to Disparate new episode. Yep because like I think we have some neum listeners. Yeah I think that we do but I feel Kinda bad you know not not post them for a little bit. I know I do too but we have been busy light last week okay. We weren't gonNA post last week and here's our reason for not because we went to Florida and that's about it. We went to Florida and me and the wife. Now where members of Tom Share ear diamond resorts. That was only about thirteen thousand dollars. You know as much We'll be paying that off. Got Plenty despair. We have none to spare brook any way. But here's the deal. It's a new year new US. We've got to get back back it back in the groove man. We've got to get back in the in the momentum and if y'all have found us from invisible choir why don't you catch up on facebook facebook or email us or something and let us know yes. I think that that helped out our listenership. All right. I'M GONNA get into my story this. Thanks interrupt me up. Sorry go ahead. I'm going to quit my Parsh- through actually I wasn't gonNA say anything. I was decisive until I don't know what I was. I was GONNA say but you have to do that. Every Damn Tom. Bro- God I have a very drama goodness Beth throat so part that I have this is drink every single episode Drink drank all time Donna. That's about it anyway. Just destructing Turner Choice this story because my son drew and that's shut up co host. He loves Asian women. God rose and Gals. I have okay here. I like all women. I like all women. I'M NOT JUST I. I'm just a fan of Asians. I'm a fan of any kind of rice but your Super Fan of whatever man what anyway. I won't go into details or nothing like that. Thanks thanks I appreciate that but here we go. Okay so let me tell you this tale now for warning has if you need to be four warned and I'm from South Carolina if you didn't know Shit I'm GonNa fuck up these names just it just gonNa tell you as we do as we do. We're the most known the fuck up names anyway. Here we got you saw obey was born in nineteen zero five. which I heard was a good year? Hal You just heard from some old prostes okay sure. Her mother doted elder youngest child. And let her her do as she wished she encouraged Sadda- to take lessons in singing and playing the Shot missing or Shamas saying a what show Maassen. Why don't they what it's called Darwazi Elsia so fucking both activities? which at the time were more closely associated with Geisha Kisha and prostitutes ex-workers? I'm going with prostitutes. You know what I'm not politically correct then with classical artistic endeavors. Her geishas were considered glamorous celebrities celebrities and Sadda- obey herself followed the image by skipping school for these. He's lessons and wearing stylish makeup which was very taboo back in those days do as family problems over her siblings sister. Her to Ruko and brother Shintaro became more pressing. Sadda- obey was often sent out of the house along along. Well she soon fell in with a group of similarly independent teenagers. That's not always good at the age of fifteen. During one of these outings Sadda- was raped by one of her acquaintances and and even though her parents defended and supported her. She became a difficult teenager. Wow as she became more irresponsible apple an uncontrollable. Her parents sold her to a Jewish house. What is that like an orphanage now? It's like glamorous prostitute. Oh Wow oh my God. The parents did that. Yes as a type of punishment. How fucked up says that man you get raped in then you go to a prostitute house? Well they were hoping hoping to find her a place in society with a little bit of direction and I assume that direction would be south. We'll Tokyo of a Saddam's older sister testified that Sadda- wished to become a Geisha Saddam herself however claimed that her father made her a Gisha as punishment for her miscue. Ity Her even though it wasn't her fault yeah obeys encounter with the gisha would prove frustrating and disappointing to become oh my true star among Kisha required apprenticeship. Her from childhood with years spent studying arts and Music Sadda wound up a low ranking Gisha in which her main duties were to provide six so kind of Love was ironic that a sent her there because of her sex that was awesome and then she was made as her job to have sex. Yes in that are on poor saying ironic. You don't get that stupid ass on worked for five years in this capacity and eventually contacted syphilis Louis. Oh no since this meant she would be required. Undergo regular examinations like a legally licensed prostitute. uh-huh syphilis isn't curable is now drew it is not. I'm making sure I don't know some some disease. Not that I I know of. I don't have it or anything and I'm not yeah. Sure you don't have. Who knows what you have? But a legally licensed prostitute prostitute at the time would have to go through regular examinations so status went through that she decided enter into something of a better better paying professional. What is that? Strictly sex were Figured because you have to go through examinations tunes and you have to be spot free to be in their Sadda- obey began work as a prostitute in Osaka's famous to be tip brothel district but soon gained a reputation as a troublemaker. She stole money from clients and attempted to leave the brothel several times but was tracked down by the well organized legal prostitution system. I'm a beat. The parents weren't shit since she wanNA turned out the way that she did However as we will go on to see she loves her some fucking sex? It should lead. After two years. She eventually succeeded in escaping the licensed prostitution system and and she began work as a waitress. However so we're not satisfied with wages? She was soon working as a prostitute again. Though now unlicensed. She began working in Asakusa. Unlicensed brothels in nineteen thirty two so las mother died in January of Nineteen thirty three and Albay went to Tokyo to visit father and from others grave she entered into the prostitution Russian market in Tokyo and became a mistress there for the Burstein Tokyo when her father became seriously ill in January up nineteen thirty four Saddad nursed him for ten days until his death in October of nineteen thirty four Saddam was arrested in a police. Raid on the unlicensed brothel at which she was working in a Sukey Kasahara a well-connected friend of the brothel owner arrange to have the women released. He tried to Sadda- and finding that that she had no debts and with obeys agreement a body made her his mistress Hora. Your makeup pal gives me. That's a horror set. If a House for Saddam on December Twentieth Nineteen thirty four and provided her with money and his deposition to the police he remembered she was really strong. A real powerful one. Dammit I wish we could do that but people hate good. You won't even though people hate him. I'm so good the bit really strong. A really powerful one even though I am pretty jaded she she was enough to astound me. She wasn't satisfied. Unless we did it. To three photons night she just wanted to do over and over what time not enough for her Lisa when time it was unacceptable. Unless I ahead my handle her plot pots all night. y'All at plus staples great but after a couple of weeks wchs got exhausted. Oh unquote exhausted from that When Sadako suggested estimate that Kasahara leave his wife to marry her he refused she did ask Kasahara to let her take a lover which he we also refuse to do after that Relationship ended and to escape him Sadda- left left for Nagoya dead a place yes. Kasahara ended his testimony with an angry remark about Saddam. CFO slut and whore and as what she has. Don John makes clear she is a woman who Mantua feel they feel him very much unquote light wise. Saddam remembered Kasahara enlists than blathering term armed. Saying really you have tweeted me like an animal. He he was to kind of scum. Who would plead with me? When I say that we call he did the hair influence? My God babe shut the Fuck Up. Please please. Don't do that Damn Sondhi. That song is is the worst it so played out in Nagoya in one thousand nine hundred eighty five again intended to leave the sex industry. Saddam began working as a maid at a restaurant. She soon became romantically involved with the customer at the restaurant. Goro Oh Imia. Where's this going? You'll hear a professor and banker who aspire to become a member of the DNA. In Japan knowing that the restaurant would not tolerate a maid having sexual relations with clients and bored with Nagoya. She returned to Tokyo. Engine a Mehemet Sadda- in Tokyo and finding that she had contracted syphilis paid for her. Stay in a hot springs resort noise so the other guy didn't know that he had syphilis. Sue Guess not well he has something to say about her but paid for her to stay in a hot springs resort in Gusau Tsu from November November until January of nineteen thirty six in January. A MEA suggested that Saddam good become financially independent it by opening a small restaurant and recommended that she start work in an apprentice position in such business back in Tokyo Saddam. Aw began work as an apprentice at the Yoshida year old I nineteen thirty six the owner of this establishment. She's ishita forty. Two years old at the time had worked his way up in business. Starting starting as an apprentice at an ill restaurant he had opened the Yo Shit agape Tokyo Neighborhood Nineteen twenty went Saddad joined. His restaurant Ashida was known as a womanizer who she did little in the way. Ah running the restaurant which was managed mostly by is why not long after. She began work as she began making. It Bantus advanced advantages ward Saddam. Amelia had never satisfied obey sexually so she was an interest in and she gave me into Ishida. How by letting him get get in her but did she kill him? In mid April Ishida and Sadda- initiated their sexual relationship in the restaurant to collect. I don't like on one of the tables to the accompaniment of a romantic ballad sung by one of the restaurants quiches so it was one of the tables exactly against it right on April approach. Twenty thousand nine hundred thirty six DA and a sheet up met for a prearranged sexual encounter at a teahouse well. It's the contemporary equivalent of I. Love Motel gone so you go to teahouse have sex back in those days. Could God planning only a short fling. The couple remained in bad fucking or four days four days. What did they know what they never mind more fucking days service but they would not? They don't need the room serve this they would continue fucking while the room service came in that. That is Yetlis how is that not raw and you know what he actually wasn't ridiculous. And how average Helen the head tail cise size is the motion. But how the hell did he stay. Wrecked all that Tom own the night of April twenty seventh nineteen thirty six. They moved to another house. Oh my God neighborhood of Blue Taco. Todd I'll be like bit. She got going somewhere. I got to go to bed. I sure they will continue to drink and have more sex. God sometimes sometimes with the competent of a gisha singing Jesus they would continue to ferociously have sex even as the maids entered the room to serve sake They next moved their marathon. Sex Sex doubt to the Ogooh neighborhood. Ashida did not return to the restaurant until the morning of May a nine hundred thirty six. They started on April twenty third January in February March April twenty and he got to the restaurant on the eight count them days. Are you freaking kidding. Me and how much in horse bro is crazy. How in the enjoy your meal? Well after all the Shida the first day of Tada later said it's hard hard to say exactly also good about a seat but it was impossible to say anything bad about his looks his attitude he it Skills Alaba way. He expressed his feelings inside me. I had never missed such a sexy man oh yeah as they separated Saddam became agitated and began drinking excessively. She claimed that with Ashida she knew love for the first time in her life and the thought that Ashida was back with his wife life entering his wife made her jealous over a week before the murder sadab became considering hiring it omay night. Nineteen thirty six. She attended a play in which a Gisha attacks for love or with the large knife. After after seeing this obey decided to threaten Ashida with a knife it they're mixed sexual meeting oil. Oy Ashida so as she going to cut off his stick Omay Eleven nineteen thirty six. She called some of her clothing clothing. And use the money to buy some Sushi and a kitchen knife Saddam later described meeting a sheet of that night according to kitchen knife out of my bag and threatened him as had been done underplay. I had seen and I say he. You wore that Komodo just to please one favor customer you Besta Kill you for that. He ishita started and drew away. A little it'll be able to light and he said he thought it was all a joke. Ishida I answer Dr returned to Ogle where they remained until his dad during their frantic. Doc love making this time obey put a knife to the base of a sheet us. Yes yes and said she would make sure he would never play around with another woman. Oh Dana she laughed at this. Why are you GonNa Laugh? You've got a frigging knife European. However two nights into this out of sex two nights of this Saddam began choking Ashida and he told her to keep on saying that this increase displeasure while and she had him do it to her as well now on the evening of May sixteen thirteen so this is five days later? Yeah White Sadda- used her OBI sash to cut off Ishida's breathing during his intense orgasm. They both thoroughly enjoyed it. They repeated this or two more hours. Mock God do you. I would think that you would die from that alone. Not On that for could your freedom fruitcake. You just have to be careful shit. Though what was once it off. Stop the strangulation. She can do it too much. is she the space became distorted and would did not return to his normal appearance. She did that on purpose. Ishida took thirty tablets of a sedative called cow motion to try to sue his pain because he was hurting so much from the strangulation row intent while take thirty though according to obey as a Shida started to does he told her. You'll you'll put a quarter round my neck and squeeze it again while I'm sleeping walked. You Know Ma God did so. She didn't kill him. If you talk ought to strangle me. Don't stop because it is so painful afterwards where that is key is for him crazy Z.. Sadda- commented that she wondered if he had known at her him but own reflection decided that he must have been joking. Oh King about two. Am on the morning of the May Eighteenth. Nineteen thirty six as Ashida was asleep. Sadda- wrapped her sash twice around his neck and strangled him to death. Oh my God so. He didn't offer the pills later. Told police after I kill a sita. I feel totally at ease as a heavy burden has been lifted from US orders and I felt a sense of clarity give with as she does body or a few hours probe she could have got to have sex with Damn Jesus Christ but hours she next severed his genitals with the kitchen. Jesus she cutoff is it. Seen this is ball's yes but took the average size penis rat did with breath the balls. No one of the Oman seen cover. Oh okay I thought here's what authorities she wrapped it so that the Muscle would get all one place on to make it. Erect in them GonNa stick our you do understand that the appeanas muscle you do give. If you wrap it in heightened she cut it all. Okay no what may okay Lord. You're just like you got air you've got air you squeeze them to one side. Or what makes the penis hard or whatever going somewhere you know what I mean. It just laughed. You could just laughed at all for sit how much how did I know all about well. Anyway she wrapped it up and put it into her Komo no no and kept it with her until she was arrested that way his Dick would only be for her and a one als rogue but she could have gotten away with if if if she would have just taught his neck and had them with had four seven for three days bro but he she could have todd his neck and had him leaning over you know like he was showing self to Jackie late and then he lot from where she cut his Dick and all were she wrote this. Set it off. He who taught Ricky Rian which means Sadaaki together. Oh is she left Gaza and own a bid sheet. She didn't carved Sadda into his left arm. After pudding on his sheet is underwear where she left the love motel at about eight. AM telling the staff not to disturb him. When asked why she had severed issued his genitals and Pinas Saddam replied? Because I couldn't I couldn't take his head or body with me. I won't let you take a part of him at Broughton. Dan's amoeba vivid. David Presser Memories. His Pena's not so big. It's not big. But it's just average. Braced is the way that you use it and he could use it so good in me. I knew he would never apple used. Its own another woman and it. Just be for me to use good gracious after leaving the love motels. The DOB met Eh Goro. She repeatedly apologized to him but unaware of the murder. He assumed that she was apologizing for having having taken another lover her apologies were. The damage was the damage to his political career. Oh may nineteenth nineteen thirty six. The newspapers picked up the story and his career was ruined. Ruined as Dazs life was under intense public scrutiny. The story immediately became a national sensation and the ensuing frenzy over her search was called Ave Saddam. Panic police receive reports reports of sightings of her from various cities and one ball citing yearly caused a stampede. It resulted in a large traffic Abbott. Jam It was. This crime was satirically dubbed the go ichi hachi incidents the dance okay I'll may nineteen. Saddam was shopping and saw a movie. Remember she still had been bean. Hell Oh yeah I forgot. Yeah Yeah. She's got dribbling about this. No Shadow sherline and how nobody else smelling I guess just put A. I can't guess they just thought that it was popcorn. She stayed or a hot dog what she would have put it inside of. What does she put it inside bread bread and then gave it to somebody and it was like in Asia and it was the movie theater but it was dark so you couldn't really tell so they would early? Eight someone's subpoenas you know what I'm saying. He stayed at an end in Chicago Wa uh twentieth where she had a massad and drank awesome. She's today riding farewell letters to in a friend and she. She planned to commit suicide one week after the murder and practiced necrophilia so to answer your question. Yes she would remove the penisula. The problem Komo no and inserted into her Belgian What did I tell you? And enjoyed him L. or three days before she was called US kind of hot. I'm just fixing candice fucking figured I'd I did not mean that. She said that she felt attached. Attached to a sheet his penis and all that only after taking leave from it quietly. Could she then die so she would unwrap the paper holding and gaze at his penis and balls are scrotum Dan. She put his penis in her mouth. Oh my God oh my God and tried to insert it into her the Jonah however it went it didn't work but she kept trying and trying and trying brokers pros and try not gonna go in then she fail and decided that she would flee to Sokha and and stayed with ishita subpoenas all the wall. Do she could've gotten away. Though in the end she was going to jump from a cliff AF amount it comb while holding on to his Penis Trustees clock in the afternoon police detective active suspicious of the allies which she had registered. They came to her room. She said them. I'm not to be so formal. That she knew they were looking for Saddam. All right well that's me. She said I am Sadda- and when the police were not convinced she reached into her. Come Luna she fucking stupid and displayed is she does Pinas row. She wants to get rest. She was not west with justice. Peter I don't understand. She was completely obsessed with him. I know that but what I'm saying is why she lied that were she just wants to get arrested. She could that she wasn't Saddad. They didn't even believe her third album. Alba's arrested interrogated over eight sessions. The interrogating officer was struck by her demeanor. When asked why she killed his shot? Is She Khushi wounded. She and her Sparkled and her answer was I loved him so so much. I wanted him all to myself. It's like she has no clue what were not husband and wife as long as he lived he would be embraced by other women. mm-hmm and I knew that if I killed him no other woman could ever touch his penis again. So what killed him I. I took that Venus and attempting to explain what distinguished Abe's case from over a dozen. It's an other similar cases in Japan. William Johnston suggested that it is this answer which captured the imagination of the nation. She had killed not out of jealousy but out of love. Mark Schreiber notes that Sadda- newt. That occurred at a time when the Japanese Japanese media were preoccupied with extreme political military troubles. And he suggests that a sensationalistic nationalist sex scandal such as this served as a welcome national release from the disturbing events of the time the president. Dan also struck a chord with the euro. You're on an eastern Sioux which is a Roddick grotesque nonsense style popular at the time. I'm not sure why that was ever popular. Were place called Estonia Estonia or it is Estonia. It is Tonia Estonia and they kind of sound like intake intake intake the notes on the news. Kind of say like that. I'm White Shit. I missed it up like like that. Okay when the crime were made public rumors began to circulate. That sheet penis was of extraordinary size. However with the police officer who interrogated Sadda- after arrest denied? This saying is she was just barely barely average bro so it was actually very big but she all it was average. I don't know it was. It was barely average or a Japanese. He's penis you're talking about three inches here. She told them that size doesn't make the man in bed technique and his desire desire to please her or what she liked about that penis. After her arrest is she does penis and testicles were moved to Tokyo University to be studying. Medical Schools Pathology Museum. They were put on public display soon. After the end of War World War Two but since disappeared all Maga. Are you freaking kidding me anyway. Guess what she took them or either another person took him somebody else had take him right. Her Own December twenty first nineteen thirty. Six dollars was convicted of murder in the second degree and mutilation of a corpse because she really thought that she didn't didn't do anything wrong though. The Prosecution Amanda Ten years. Wow what. She claimed that she desired the death penalty. She was impact sentenced to six years in prison. Dude so it kind of helps if you say yeah deserve. The death. Penalty sentence was commuted all November two four nineteen forty two four years so so what two three released exactly. Five years after the murder mutilation oh Mago may seventeenth nineteen forty. She killed a man Stolis Penis and used it for three light champ for three days. Disturbing a Kurds Kurds. Yes I don't know I wish somebody would take mine. I wish they would be like. Oh my God I just got a great you. We know that would be such a self esteem booster exactly. Yeah but I could see if you could see now be like thank you for spreading the love of Mafias what we're GonNa take a quick break right now and then I will be telling my story afterwards and we are back in. I think that you said that you would have a little song for whenever we came back from that short little tiny brain athlete was almost twenty. Four yeah it was but a little something. That's maybe a decently long story and and probably going to be just as long as yours but oh I don't know if she just told me that but how he asks. Oh okay well. It's going to be about the lipstick killer and I'm surprised since he has a nickname. You've never heard of him. I said I don't think I have well. Of course you know of gear VR. You're in the story than halfway through. We get we halfway through. Then he'll Alderson's say lipstick nitty Bro. Grow it yes okay. Yeah Fuck doesn't matter. No 'cause I've never heard of. Well let's go. I'm fine another. We haven't talked about it before now. I know we have not done him in K.. Than US all gone on September Fifth Nineteen Forty six William. George George herons thing say hey earns was sentenced to three consecutive life sentences for the murders of forty three year old Josephine Ross. An thirty two year old Francis Brown and six year old Suzanne Dagnon he will forever be known as the lipstick killer her. But it's a really question of really. Did he do it or not. Was He guilty whether found guilty you. You can't go by that 'cause I really don't think I don't think that's fair and I'll get out. GET INTO A SHONDA cow. We'll get into that later but oh yeah. We'll wait to hear about that. Legally I think he can no because there's a lot of people who are found guilty. That are innocent. That is true and then their confessions are almost beat out of him. But legally God's Halo to account is going to keep ongoing aroused. Does this will take years on legal mug on okay. Are you done thank you. I love me not being able to see your face. 'cause I know no you're making some very mean faces at me look like a constipated face over there who me yeah no smile. I went okay on a hot summer day June fifth nineteen forty five in Chicago Illinois. The body of forty three year old Josephine Ross was found in her apartment at four one. One eight North Kenmore Avenue. Her body lay embiid As though it were supposed investigators found that she had been repeatedly stabbed including a stab in throat but her body had been washed and and all of her wounds covered with tape. Her head was wrapped with the skirt. Josephine raw though her body had been washed West investigators still found dark hairs. clutched in her hand. Presumably from her killer. I think that just goes to show how you're clean. He was yeah he Palestine yeah like. Isn't that weird thing. Let Kill Wash other bodies but then his self is so rank you know talking about himself is right or like they don't wash they own ass they want to wash other people's asses. Say it like that. Then you go. What I'm saying is he didn't wash her very good office? I took took just himself good. took it a different way. I was thinking about beliefs assumes of your it goes Helena. Police assumed she surprised an intruder and was killed as a result nope but nothing had been taken from her apartment because of her hair soon. Though how did they know nothings taken you know when they say ally and tail like what about a luxurious goods in here. conveyors like autonomous shit. Here what about good candle. That's your great grandmother gay for Korea. You know I'm they don't know if that's gone or not. You might have missed. That came out this can that we've drank out in its trash. They don't know if that's no sure don't we could have money in that. Can we. Could we could her. Well they No no we don't the the killer was presumed to be a dark complected man complex complex election complex election complexion or skin dark complexion dark skin. Yes about six months later. On December tenth. The body of thirty two year old Francis Brown was found slumped over her tub in her home at three nine four one north pond grove apartments. Six one one so anybody knows is that you can send us a message. Her apartment door was open and a cleaning woman noted a radio playing rather loudly Francis to have been shot in the head and a butcher knife had been driven saw waste through her neck. This time we have gone on Sean. Stay and stabbing the knife went so far I entered one side and protruded from the other. What depends on where you stab at? You know what I'm saying like it could have been the short end of your net cry in the front. You know or could have been the full force in the width and about me. It's all which necker are you talking about talking about three of them there. You go a knife lipstick coming into the picture show. Her body had been stripped naked and just like Josephine raw. She had been washed clean of blood. Her head was wrapped in towels again. Just as the case with Josephine Ross. Police assumed she had surprised an intruder. A God but nothin' have been taken from the apartment instead dead. This time a note was left behind written on the Living Room Wall in lipstick. The lipstick note on on the wall of Francis Brown's apartment to make that clear for heaven's sake catch me before I kill more can't I cannot control myself mm-hmm or heaven's sake yeah last your heart. It was written in lipstick. That's okay fortunately. The killer left behind a bloody letty. Fingerprint smudge what on the door Jamb to the apartment as well as a witness to his escape. who was the witness? We'll get to do that. I'm sorry shot Joe Words you know. Don't you don't have to do all that I'm just saying I'm getting there right now. George Weinberg reported reported hearing gunshots at about four a M and John Derek. The apartment buildings nightclub reported seeing a nervous man aged thirty five loved forty and approximately hundred forty pounds. Get off the elevator and fumble for the door to distract before leaving on foot yet four days after the murder Chicago. Police announced that they had reason to believe the killer was actually a woman Just because lipstick. Maybe I'm a slow retarded almost like you. What did trump bethell Lord Mimosa? A month later six six year old Suzanne Dayton is a Suzanne or Suzanne. I'm it may be Suzanne but I think that Susan because it citing is s s sh issues the shit. Yeah yeah that would be Suzanne Dimond. Gosh darn it. Not Suzanne the season because I thought Oh jury because it had in there and had the to end so our SNAFU Zane I thought also Was a she was reported missing from her family. Home at thought you know what. Why do people even? I'm I'm a kind of understand the address but you ain't got to say the actual plan outright because nobody knows where that is particular. I'm GonNa give you the nobody. Nobody knows nobody knows where that is but hung say apart now appeal all shit. I gotta get Outta Hill Atla. He'll uh tonight but I got the wealth. I'm five nine four three north breath. Kin More Avenue edgewater Chicago. Her fourth floor bedroom window was shut up was open and a ladder was placed underneath it outside. The apartment police also located a ransom note on the property the Red Suzanne Dagenham jail. Twenty thousand ready and wait for word. Do not notify FBI or police bills and fives and tens on the reverse of the note was written. Burn this for safety. Following her disappearance the Dignam residents received many any calls from a man demanding the ransom but he always hung up before any details could be worked out or arranged shortly thereafter. The Mayor of Chicago Edward Kelley also received a gnome. This would have said this is also to tell you how sorry I am for not getting for uh-huh not not to get oh digman instead of his girl Roosevelt and the OPA made his own made their own laws. Why shouldn't I and a lot more and just so you know? PA IS OFFICE OF PRICE Administration. This note changed of course of the investigation. has there was a eight national mom. MEATPACKER strike in progress. One executive of the OPI- A had just been assigned armed guards after receiving threats against his children. Mr Diagne had recently moved his family to Chicago and was a senior at Opie a executive executive. These people meant business even decapitating and killing a man involved in black market meat. So police were not black-market. Meet meet so police. Were looking for a meatpacker because the Jesus Silo anyways assault won't Jesus. He's trying to do my quiet bureau. Broad nineteen forty through nineteen forty nine meatpacker strike neighbors awesome but backer neighbors of the Dignam family were all questioned but most had nothing useful to report this. This is until police received an anonymous phone. Call suggesting the police or can the seward's near the Dayton home. She's Christ when police did they discovered bird the severed hit Suzanne de Gnan in a storm. Drain sewer that was in an alley the only a block away from their home so they were searching the storm grades or yeah the Gossett to go. Further search led police to the girls right leg in a catch basin. She's s this bad the her torso in another other storm drain. Couldn't make in that blaze. This a serious note unknown God and their left leg and a Drain in another alley. Each piece was found on further and further from the family home it took investigators and additional month to find on her arms which were in the sewer drain on the other side of Howard elevated train. Line I don't know where that is. Well it says more than three blocks from the president still don't know where that is. Well we do because they gave us the exact address I know. But it's not like from South Cairns exactly it's not like I'm GonNa look at bucking smart city she all. The drains have been capped with circular articulate. CAST iron manhole covers. We don't have that here. We have our own individual whales that we use our toil that we shouldn't Piss we flush it goes into our backyard. Okay thanks for the For the Info just saying that's that simple lack of southern will the manhole covers the man who was so so vulgar. Yeah weighed on at least one hundred and ten pounds yet. No one heard them being lifted or even slip back into place place. Well will you might. Not You know what I'm saying. If your man I mean you you may not though. That's the thing like of course they think my manhole wouldn't have shut up man. I'm GonNa few seconds that will maybe maybe thirty seconds. You pick the thing up. If you're decently strong you move. Move the CY get out your clothes. Set the search of an apartment building near the location. Where Suzanne's head was found uncovered a basement laundry room with four tubs containing evidence that she had been dismembered there? The floor been mopped. The blood was found in the drains of all four tubs. The press began referring to This room as the murderer him. Even though the autopsy topsy showed that Susanne suse Suzanne. Okay what it was I say. Before Suzanne Suzanne also say Susan Susan Susan Suzanne Suzanne had clearly been alive when taken from her home murdered murder at a secondary location and then taken to the laundry room. I mean I'm you would figure. She was taken from Muhamalai not killed in her home or else they would have been some type of probably evidence when you think thanks of like some kind of struggle google. Something the corner place her Tom. Death between twelve thirty and one a M Shit s late. I've been asleep depots and said that a fairly sharp instrument or knife had been used to dismember her body. Dr Kerns the coroner's expert. I said quote either man who worked in a profession that required the study of anatomy or one with a background in dissection Shen not even the average doctor could be as skillful yet to be a meat cutter. The coroner agreed stating that it. It was a very clean job with absolutely no signs of hacking more. Witnesses came forward. The police gave over one hundred seventy polygraph tests in the Senate who lived in the apartment above the dignam family. Ethel Hargrove reported hearing loud male. Voices downstairs dogs dogs barking when she arrived home at twelve thirty a m another tenant was able to collaborate her story. Freda mayor lived above above the laundry. Laundry Room reported seeing a man enter at around three forty a m stay for ten to fifteen minutes and leave it through. Leave leave through the alley. She said he turned to the laundry. Room again fifteen minutes later and stayed for several minutes before heading back out to the alley. When when he returned a third time only fifteen minutes later he stayed for a moment Mary incline and Jake Derosa reported looking out there for a window at three? AM and seeing a man wearing a gray hat and tan coat. They said he appeared to be trying to get into the laundry room but ran away after being disturbed. Now this is a lot of witnesses and a ton of information right here. You know what I'm saying. They should be able to get somebody from from all of this. I'm at they should be able to. But it's it's odd another neighbor. George Subscribe Sqi Eighty. Yeah that's it went to police shortly after the murder and reported seeing a man walking to the detriment home at around one. Am Am. He said the man was carrying a bag and described him as being about five foot nine. Approximately one hundred seventy pounds and thirty five years old well you know the the age con of collaborates with the other woman story. You know that soul and I But the way sway off like a hundred forty pounds is way smaller than one hundred seventy pounds. It is smaller. Yeah I mean may not be able to tell the difference if it was starwood but as thirty pounds. That's a law because whenever you eight hundred forty handsets pretty skinny thus well that would be like my nuts. Were cut off now. My God what. I'm sorry be like thirty. The als wait a second. What I don't know man you but now now you may lose okay? I found it I found. He was wearing a light-colored on Fidora. What a door cow? Love up the door and a dark coat when ways Then there was Robert Rice res- prezner that may be right. I don't know you want me to spell it out for Rob Wrestler K.. A cabdriver who saw woman behind the dent home at one thirty. Am She had a bundle of Under each arm and got into a car driven by great hair man missy Crawford furred who lived across the street said she saw car with a man and a woman driving up and down the street at two thirty a m the police it now have a profile for the killer. The killer is likely a male roughly thirty to forty years of age and somebody were between one hundred forty the and one hundred seventy five pounds and he was under six feet tall would have to be strong to lift. The manholes that weighed played one hundred ten pounds he would have a background in anatomy or does section as the dismemberment of Suzanne was done with skill and precision he was most likely a disgruntled disgruntled meatpacker with reason to be upset with. OPA He he may even have a female accomplice. Police arrested sixty five year. Old Hector Vergara for Berg Mark King helped me out here. Expel V. E. R. B. U. R. G. H. cannot help you. I said it before. He'll said it before but it was. Just I just never knew Hector Varberg a janitor in the building where the Dignam family lived. Police told the press. Yes this is the man. Although he did not fit the profile he had no surgical knowledge or nor skill as a butcher police use evidence of of him frequently free frequented the so-called murder room and said the state of the ransom note had to be written by Tori hands such as that of Janner so because he went into the murder room which doesn't really give anything because he is a janitor and because he had dirt because he works and he may have dirty hands. Then they presume it was a janitor him with no direct evidence. Police Police Police pressured verb. Burg's wife to implicate her husband in the murder but she refused. Police held him for forty eight hours of questioning. During which time he was beaten severely. Ferber said Oh they hang me up. They blindfolded unfolded me. I can't put my arms. They are sore. They had handcuffed on me for hours and hours. They threw me in the sale and blindfolded me. They handcuffed my hands. Bahama back and pull me up on bars until my toes touch the floor. I know E. I go to the hospital. Oh M So sick anymore and I would have confessed anything. ooh And he was presumably from a different country possibly Mexico you know throughout the entire ordeal Verburg denied any involvement all men in the murder. He ended up spinning ten days in the hospital and it was later determined as a Bilge of his from Belgian. I forgot that Belgian immigrant. Verburg didn't couldn't write English well enough to ham written the ransom their virg- sued the Chicago. Police Department for fifteen thousand when he was awarded twenty thousand the afternoon of June twenty-sixth nineteen forty six. Seventeen year old William Herranz set out for the post office to cash. His One Thousand Dollar Savings Mon- purchase with the money from previous burglaries. He had a date with with this girlfriend later and needed. Cash herons put a revolver in his pocket nervous because he would be carrying such a large amount of cash when he arrived arrived at the post office. It was closed but he still needed money. He resorted to burglary. He went to a building he had stolen from before. Just a few bucks from the Designation House. He spotted an open apartment and lifted dollar bill when he was spotted by Tineh he fled out and then up the back stairs of a nearby building where he tried to lay out. Lay Low But a resident spotted him and called the police. He tried to escape down a staircase and was cornered by two policemen. He pulled out his gun. And according according to hair and he turned and attempted to run which resulted in a scuffle and an off duty police officer dropping. Three clay flowerpots on Heron's head from the top of the stairs rendered him unconscious so he was running and then the th elite done the off duty police. Lisa officer shot the flowerpots on. That's all but not on purpose and I'd say Dan just knocked doubt somebody man that we something. What did you say? And that would be According to police here stores Jim One. I'm just wanting to see what you're trying to show your chest here openers. You Chung show your chest hair. Some companies hurt sure. Who Do some of us are hot or not? Whenever we don't hate on the Nodar whatever here and starts him with his gun? Firing twice in the gun. Misfired own. misfiring both I know that no shit prior to the off duty officer it dropping three clay pots ONA's head on Williams. Here's was taken to the police hospital at Cook. County jail where he was stitched and and bandaged and strapped to a bed. You drift bandaged instruct. SPS Some bullshit so let my night last night. I have no idea. That's kind of insulting myself. I don't know why we keep rolling. It drifted in and out of constant es cell. She likes yeah. What sounds dirty like? You don't have a dirty model the time hold on your full of okay. I'm muting method tossed knees that has all this you talk about. That's all visitors. Not I don't talk about being in and out of consciousness that's right wit. I'm oh I wasn't talking. Well we're about out wasn't I wasn't talking about it. About how talking about bandaged stretch and strapped to the bed. What could you just say it in and out of college? Well she liked it. I didn't mean ally that omit like the other things strapped to the bed. Thank you just to clarify clarify. Well then yeah cool. I'm not weird. I'm not I'm not of whatever. Oh well but hurt someone saying hang. He was a suspect in the case and felt his fingerprints needed to be taken. Police raided his parents house his room at the university and a Walker Walker at and what the hills and ill station the hill at a train station. Okay that makes Wa l. let L. trying whatever yeah well that's whereas yeah whereas hall from his previous burglaries were discovered hearings was interrogated regraded around the clock for six days being beaten by police and being refused food or water. The WHO is a saying who's coming from what mm-hmm he said this or does video along. Why must you put me on the spotlight this? Because I'm just saying this is one of the reasons you're saying you don't think that it's him. Yeah Okay So. Is this captured on camera. If not that this is just he said right and how might would say the same damn thing just to put you know to make people think Koponen presumably. Because here way I'll keep on going. Keep on going DOC Me was not allowed to see his parents for four of those days and was refused his his lawyer for all six herons was subjected to interrogation for three hours under the influence of sodium. Pin can't with all popular known as Truth Serum. This drug was administered without his parents consent. And without a warrant to psychiatrists Haines in Roy. Greek grinker grinker daring hit. This interrogation Herron spoke of an alternate personality named George who has actually committed the murders which he could have talked about L. anything anyway she can talk about veer fucked up things. If you're high you don't talk. How McGaw whatever dude I haven't taken Tulsa? While the Truth Serum Sodium Sodium Pentothal okay. Whatever makes you tell the truth but yellow drowsy? But I'm saying it's not like you're who but that's what I call the truth serum because at ten there make you open to tell the truth anyways I don't feel like that should be used in in investigation though but I would love to use it with my children. KAYLA's carry on. After the true cerium role wore off hair and spoke with captain. Jesus describes your so disgusting and civilized. Whatever you're more civilized the me with Captain Michael and hearn? Uh with the State's attorney William to Ha- to announce go to because literally. This is spelt the most weird way our not even know how to an of I have read over this frigging name. I've no Eddie how to say it either. Tutti to and stenographer in the room. He told them that his alter ego go towards might have been responsible for the crimes. That George what's happened to be his father's first name and his middle name convenient had given given him the loot to hide in a storeroom. Police pressed for Georgia's last name. And he told them remember it. But that it was a was a murmuring name was that mean I'm Martha Meal Matt Murmuring. armouring I don't know police translated this to Murman in the media. Took it a Mama. It took it away Merman. I don't know and then the media twisted it to murder man which made his reputation look way worse even though he really technically didn't have any evidence right now amid besides a George said that he did the mark you know saying George Police question hair and friends and family about this George but came away disappointed? None of them have ever. I heard of his alter ego. What here's actually said? During this guest interrogation time is in dispute and cannot be confirmed as the original transcript The original tranche. Kirk script has disappeared. She Act on the problem with this. Interrogation is that most scientists believe subjects under the influence of Sodium Pentothal or highly influential causing statements. That aren't on entirely true. Due to come out by the nineteen fifties most scientists had declared truth serums to be invalid. ammos courts were roll. Any testimony Loni gained through their use in a miserable. And the case to William Hair and the scientific opinion of the true Celia Serum had not yet filtered filtered down to the court and police departments of course so this is basically their thing of evidences this truth serum in Nineteen Fifty two in post conviction petition. The State's attorney William Tui admitted under oath that he not only knew about the sodium pentothal procedure he had authorised even paying grinker one thousand dollars that same year grinker admitted that hair and never implicated himself in any of the killings on his fifth day. In custody William here and was given a lumbar puncture sure without anesthesia. Okay and then driven to police headquarters for a polygraph tests. They try to WHO administered the test right away but ultimately had to reschedule it for several days later as he was too much in pain to cooperate. Reasons reasons for the lumbar puncture is still unknown typically a lumbar puncture or spinal tap is conducted to diagnose diseases and typically performed formed under local anesthesia. When the polygraph tests was finally minister results were declared inconclusive? which I feel like they? I should've been Oddly enough Johnny Reid and Fred E in in Boo Pogo Sa- findings of the polygraph tests in their nineteen fifty. Three book lied to lie detection and criminal interrogation which states eight murder William Murderer. William Hair was questioned. About the killing and dismemberment of six year. Old Suzanne Dagnon on the basis of the conventional tasting theory his response on the Cortes clearly establishes as an innocent person on July second nineteen forty. Six hair was was transferred to the cook. County jail where he was placed in in the Infirmary to recover him. Writing analysis cannot not like Karen's Ham writing to the lipstick message or the ransom note however police claimed that his fingerprints matched the buddy smudge on the door jamb of Francis. This Brown's apartment and in addition a fingerprint on his left little finger matched the ransom note. Both with only non points of comparison according to the FBI handbook regarding fingerprint identification. There must be twelve points of comparison to to indicate positive identification in the case of hearings point of comparison. This means that they could have easily match sixty five percent of the population nation with you know with the whatever points. Well here's defense. Attorney fell. He was guilty m made his goal to keep them from dying of the electric chair. How fucked up at your own lawyer tells you? Damn you're guilty man. You're going down the drain. I mean a new state attorney to. He didn't feel like he could get a conviction so he saw out cooperation from defense defense counsel to offered here it's a plea bargain. The bargain stated that in exchange for his confessing to the murders of Josephine Ross Francis Brown and Suzanne Dagon. Parents would serve a single life sentence with the help of his attorneys hearings began to write his confession he utilized the Chicago Tribune as Gus. I got stay What bird I'm pretty close? Okay why Indio Knauss what is it. Oh shoot US Sunday. I won't anyways Now it in loss a fricken emplaced great job at large got some rice with when he was here in spirit. Sign the confession and a date was set for. Here's here's to make. The his official confession on July thirtieth hair and his attorney went to to his office where several reporters were assembled to ask questions questions hair and tried but he appeared bewildered and gave report reporters on committal answers to withdrew the previous agreed sentence of one life term. I made a few minor changes. It stated that it would be three life terms to consecutively. He then threaten hearings with the with the death penalty. If the case went to trial hearings agree with the new new plea bargain as A public forum was once again held in to his office. And this time here in Spokan answer answer questions even went so far as to reenact parts of the murders and had an had confessed to herons later stated I confess to say my life on September fifth ward formerly sentenced. Here's to three life terms and on March Fifth Two Thousand Twelve William here instead at the age of eighty three at the USC medical center from complications arising from diabetes. He had been refused parole and all the pills were refused at the time of his death. Here was Chicago's is longest serving prisoner. Having served sixty five years and is pretty fucked up because I think he was innocent Um I do. I think he was innocent. I think he had issues. I don't care. I think he was innocent but I think there needed to be more enemies in news and stuff stuff like that and anybody. That kind of salt boom has always said that. If you would just talk to him he seems like a completely innocent man. Well that's fine but I just feel like need need to be more evidence to convict. There was no evidence that they basically said that trial that you would probably get the death in in his own lawyer but he. I met the peels and stuff. I mean really had no towards either it was go on trial or take or and also the Times. I'm back in the fifties sixties. The Tom's yeah. Yeah well I think it was just messed up. What color was his skin shit? I looked at him and he dark complex and goes on. Let me see really quick. You talk about something okay. Well I'm GonNa Tell Y'all dis we're going to switch back over. We will now be without without ads again because knows white. Oh I thought that was wild I but then I was getting a different picture in my head. 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Mastering the Mind. Gina Mollicone-Long & Jonah Oliver

Stellar's Podcast Series with Shaun McCambridge

26:08 min | 1 year ago

Mastering the Mind. Gina Mollicone-Long & Jonah Oliver

"Welcome to the debunking. You'll growth mindset PODCAST WITH SEAN. Mccambridge in this podcast. We will unpack practical ways to help you grow and build on your current mindset and challenge old habits so you can see the potential. That's within us all and learn how to get out of your own way. It's quick and try the base. Total orchid foreign for this podcast. Mastering the moment so we've got performance psychologist General UVA Has Original podcast is one of the most popular and he's performance. Psychologists for sporting teams athletes business leaders actors and surgeons Iran had operated ubisoft to navigate the challenges that come out why and then we've got Whistler based out of Canada and Jana Malakand along Who's in NLP guru or your linguistics? Programming GEHRIG UM put simply that's the study success and had replica this She's always a motivational speaker. And world renowned author again. Another super popular podcast. She did with us. So I trust. You always will enjoy and that. You're making the most of the current curved situations cheese Gina Molly Cohen along it Alpay practitioner an expert and she office come across Gino Win undertook at cool in they August that Of Pay in all peyot he goes. What is it side linguistic programming? Sorry the why that she describes it as the study exists and had replicate this And I guess an otherwise might be quickly describe pays is essentially a lot of the framework methodology that tiny robbins losses in his teachings. An sorry she's become a coach for safe and Robin Business Pat Tom's she's done. Some coaching stations with a water leadership team of what a business which has been great and are really really interesting. Nelson Pace vm that out. Ishida Dogo research and a bunch of stuff that tech have a toll remain? Why too much to to talk a short segment that If she sorta the August the one phrase of comes to mind with JANA and sequester Is this quite of? 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It wasn't working for myself facing the comes to Mon- next thing is the notion of conscious and unconscious months Or conscious unconscious. Bryant's if you look You you might have had they are yes description that your conscious. Brian is your goal in your unconscious. Brian is your dog. Get sorry coaches. Brian is full. It's the everything s comes with that that you'll conscious of your unconscious. Brian is pretty much. August scrubbed. Miami's the hydro of the stores everything from every spirits Loss and You notarized conscious. Thanks for example. They won't be a childhood memory that you've forgotten a bed or a smell from the past and you haven't experienced F along all of a sudden you experience that and then boom at sort of reinvited that that sat emotional feeling that you had why back in an anarchist side intuition is largely by yourself. Your unconscious mind art. You more feel like visit White Guy. That's because maybe your unconscious mind has drawn on previous experiences and situations everything s lot to guide towards acids that are direction side Experience with conscious unconscious volume is that of building. Were Pool in a thank. When I was younger I was often guilty of saying on. GonNa do this. She had the sculptor said the scowl. And Name. When push comes to shove. I really didn't do that. Were or might be a fit to might go a reality. So thank Ed. Cohen Song are probably whenever are GONNA disown? Something Was more conscious? I don't think more unconscious mind really delays that that was possible because Sandwich Trust semi breaking promises between the two. Why never followed Surrey or really very now much more Mournful that on a I to extending day but the most important thing is keep motivated to myself so I'm going to get up and into the training or for say I'm GonNa do whatever tackle net big challenge. Oh speaking of January whatever. The cases are false. 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Look to an event that happened and I get anxious in and his liberal of anxiety and concern inherits GonNa Guy said they inked Audie Therapy as changes coaching Yasuda You take yourself beyond the event looking back at the event with a sense of Session confidence the been scar. Well now which is Carnival. Way of fooling out or tricking. Were hacking yourself that the events already happened in gone. Well they Anxiety fear just a sense of accomplishment. Sorry it's toll or technique that you can utilize disappearing saw it a in And Huxley Transform One of looking to invest with Angela to look back at an event before dirty happen with a sense of confidence all the rest of the NFL that state. The more confident relaxed night. You try and carry that to the event August almost for the second time if that makes sense. Because you've already applied that out in the mall and I guess Maybe a a variation but similar Law In thinking that is there was the famous. Traffic is nine that did Cinema of physical training but he did the majority of his training just training in his mind pulling the buyback releasing the awry head in the target he become world champion boy training much less physically than his fellow competitors but he and his mind he tried heading that. Bo Xilai Callous Times by Good sort of example at as well The next one is Another interesting and complex theory but certainly make sense when you get to the heart of it so the ridiculous dividing system vita system put simply it's You tend to say and get what you saw so ruled. Simple one is For example you will look into boy Yuka. This is special since cow whether it's Toyota Crawl Hawks Look at it. All of a sudden you draw have places and you say the May in or what you pram or block. Whatever it's because you become open a conscious of saying that Saryu more chain to say You know fallen Inglis August sign could be said of if you'll looking for negatively or positively solutions you'll brains. Prompt in that regard is really cool. Video trump fund. The is sort of company the costs we have bought This video and a group of people throwing around as possible is about six people around possible and the video is see how many times you can't possible way. Pass you tune you folks were really high. Y'All can't can't can't can't can't be like I'll go to twenty four whatever it is and then the will that portion of Pasta Pasta and then I I picked up the moonwalking bear and the background and now on says in the background at the 'cause at Brian was five Camping many but the seconds on and you obviously relax your eyes off the passing for the via and sure enough in the background. It's just Shari's If you promise Brian towards that here ut teen to Foxton say that inspected the the court wave disguise. Your energy flaws in last lakes Jana and pay. She talks about a pair of choice and cools in effect side Got More for choice are closed. A fake is You're either close or you earned everything that's happened to you a everything you've done. It were sitting by his put. You in the state All position you are good bad or indifferent decisions. That's somebody you to where you are now versus your cool you totally you know you're at a good price or bad place. You said you know successful you decide on that Position the flip side is one where all pull May You know the economy more parents. My upbringing frayn's while health marvis wheel by simply Argues a victim to every circumstance. You'll stuck in effect to everything that's happened to your side. You sort of feel helpless. You could trial so once more of earning and having control ship about where you are where you could go. And the other one's sense of on helpless at the mercy of whatever happens to mate so that the notion of being at Kohl's or stock effect and with that our guest there on that little bit is just that national power of choice. Sorry are not what a good example of this is off top. My head thought he has talking to me so I did thought. Once at twice about the Histone did some genuine sparring with fellow. Box After forty five savings. Us completely exhausted guest to be honest. Probably filled with nervous energy. Already You know probably go to trial in. Ocd myself while off for five secrets. Shit on this is me or go back to the car and when I was dropped back to the Office Office. Mesa thinking can walk the House to perform Unexcused will raise interest Something in on this challenge And that was a genuine consideration but in the end top cellphone not going to get pile of showing life from this challenge or even scared the Shit anime for us The chose to take on the fear. Tacoma challenge prepare. Push myself out of the come inside So I chose to take on the challenge and have a crack haven outlets well at some accomplish on This is choose to avoid saugus AD choices. Painful full and unedited since or chose to go by why this is many other tech wise. I've got a along standing relationship January. I'll think Rene joy is a performance psychologist with a Jacobs. He works with actors surgeons and athletes in. He's a gull base individuals. That we I come across at the Brisbane broncos presentation and amazing individual that really sort of helps people achieve will become the best version or achieve the things that are really important to them. Podcast is just so many interesting topic wise and that fraum again little things look normalizing anxiety and he the way sorta references that. Hey a guy for a run and you get lactic acid. You don't freak out and stressing Guy Omega what's what's going on. You just know that it's normal so he talks about the fact that anxiety to Sydney stint as normal and we don't need to label that as a negative thing you know. Sometimes things already is good. It's it's it's a song that Yuri the focusing on the wrong things or to sign that you focus on the things in you know. It's a big occasion to stuff. He owes with a net. Give some toes techniques to defuse anxiety so he talks about labelling anxiety so he uses the example of how some of the fell teams. He works with and He just used that simple exercise. When you start feel biddings audie you liable and which sort of diffused as an gangs automo- mall Pell Mall Friend. Uvarov thought you chop Iran about now and and Jonah. Even though he's a psychologist he said he uses it picnic sometimes before he goes on to speak and just libeling it sorta tax bit of power away from it and diffuses that a little bit. Sorry he goes into that and a little bit more detail. But I think I've had a lot of feedback around the fact that and those things are pretty common thing for everyone now and really immune to it so it is normal but then he sort of goes into some really great take makes a toes to sort of defuse that or help refocus. That was really really good. Heels talks about being comfortable with discomfort in the fact that you regret things about law Cam. Justin Langer talked about the pain of discipline is nothing lot the painted disappointment but also link king at discount To the service of something and pulled meaningful and the example. He is is a all Daas Q. Motivational conference whatever to simply get up. Walk across a pathway of glass Would you do that and most people have cool on it? You know it's IT'S STUPID. It's it's going to be immediately painful. And this just not wild DOA. But he said a far rephrase the side that if you will that Possible glass you and all your friends and family in Iran Employment. You will have the most amazing loft. They'll be happy for the rest of told him and they'll have the most meaningful incredible law. If you can do that would you do that? And I'll think Mars people would would generally have a crack at that said that That just sort of shows that you've got to at songs you know when you are going through discomfit or whatever. The case is you've got a link to something meaningful gets the best example that just sort of popped into my head for. May that been used in the passes of any down one marathon and Oma to another one but always warned and preparation. That halfway in marathon is fifty. Two case at thirty two KS near full marathons forty two kilometers nail. Not that great at math but when that person said you know how vice city to On Your wasn't caught wrought but I see you will often It's a common Who own mental or physical barrier? When you get to that mark that you really start to struggle and Safa so definitely fell into that was feeling pretty Frisch and pretty good up until that point no fell into that in just you know or just had nothing a wanted to give out but the anyway orchids that have fond. Why food was more daughter. Just been born. Sophie and Moi Nanna was going through a tough time with cancer and audited myself these things and this was the whitest SORTA move forward overs. Whatever pine ongoing through Roy is nothing compared to what more Menendez gone through enormous hit? The thing was on the Mike Malloy. Just Muscial but I WANNA get more. I WanNa make my daughter Pratt. So all head to old alternating comments on one was Nanna and the other one was sophie and that was August a total used to create some meaning out of that discomfort. It wasn't even though more Brian was him. Amont was tempting me to give up and And stopped and woke to see Fenian. So if you so for those last team guys got the didn't stop But I'll just sort of goes back to that notion of of using strategy to get through that discount in on you the orbit regret things didn't push through and that And David to complete more marathon. So it's something Jonah. He talks about values based decision. Making and that you all should be linked to your values in perhaps not just linked to enact come an example a used maybe the Paul cow so maybe in the presentation that he did the Broncos all he did a stellar was talk about a man's near someone who's you know seeking to some mountains and one person is all about reaching the summit and the other person has a a draw a a rand being true to my values and that Ta- adventure perseverance. Getting out of my comfort zone and providing the megawatt comes me so he uses the example that calamity hits where the comes in the PUSA Just reaching the summit this is so far. Is the at calm. You know of of doing that when that hits. Perhaps this an inclination for that post in the Guy Will F. It's bad with it. Could you put all his more potential to get to the top on g all risks that ADT com so retreat and then he talks about the other individual that his values pusa varying funding away getting out of the comfort zone and finding a way being trudy values in those moments is know sport putting yourself at risk as to find a way forward so he said that the way more likely to persevere and prevail if you will true values in your clear on your values and making decisions that a consistent with your values and coincidentally oil ahead and all kind of caught plice Romania but will have heard that the people that are most unhappy and the law at those that are clear on the values or with I wanna Gar but the law or they behaviors or the actions on consistent with values or that vision of the future and the the people that struggle the my essence of being clear on your values just so so important he talks about the benefits of more fullness and has simple that is and You know I think. In innocents he says that mournful nece is slowing the Brian Dan and narrowing use into our Farkas. He talks about the fact that in this day and age is just so many distractions. Seventy things Competing for our attention that he talked about the fact that it can be very very simply talks about some of the the Mons race car drivers city works with an and going three hundred as narrow more down the back streit. Muslims can be as simple as just taking a sip of water and following that of sensation of call awarded. Anti-miss Dan you'll throat etc. Just that Marmon of slowing the Brian and narrowing that Sandra focus can have a big impact in and again. He has grounded and so on surround the impacts that can have in your cure stress response impact on anxiety and again that sort of toys back to you know one of those Regular habits or practices That was true in terraces book. Toes of totten's. He talks about mental recovery and he talks about the fact that in sport after game they might have a day of recovery so they sort of back off a little bit too regina rights and income good so to speak but he said Jim Ryan Law and Business. Oh other aspects. We don't often allaire those that die of recovery on moment of recovery to regenerate and recharge after the big bold presentation or the big pitch to you know take the business to the next level. Mac and acquisition of the guys inside take some learnings from spoiled rim recovery and tagging that too and I was to become bitter and against the best example. Canoes regattas pre kids always attempt. Tomi weekend almost always do some work and there was times when used Iraq on Monday? When I didn't fever recharge those so fell a little bit stressed nails kids kids sport. And you know that sort of stuff often get a chance to tie that laptop and with that. I feel a little bit guilty. But are thinking retrospect always feel mentally. Recharge come Monday. Because I've had that mental break from work so actually think an innocent some bit of four a bit of a personal example. In that regard he talks about fitness and the impact. That fitness can have in it so typically proven that Regula fitness activity is as or more effective than any person for mental health. So he talks about that being the first thing but he did at the very least a few of d'izoard become the best. You are in any aspect of law of just making time. Fitness is in Anabel feud become the very best version of UCF cannon. Tim's of impact on your sleep. You water health benefits and all those things August more experience with that as this look competing for a time. You can't fall in the time. You gotTa make the Thome with that. I know that Omah bit of human being and my wife would back that up when Sawsan Just keeps movable calm balanced asleep. Bitter exotic sitter manages all the energy of CON- Ram but I'll think All tight this view that something's always been nothing sometimes even if a vinyl twenty windy guy for the run or go to the gym and always feel before so again. That's just pot. More regular routine but law meditation some of these things. If I'm not exercising you know four to five times a minimum weight. Then this wrong with me. Just don't feel as good sock plenty to cavern in Jonah's podcast arguably one of the more popular ones that we did so this some fantastic.

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Viaja con RIA 118  Road Trip por Escocia con Seguir Viajando

Podcast RadioViajera

33:06 min | 2 years ago

Viaja con RIA 118 Road Trip por Escocia con Seguir Viajando

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Inside A New Skunk Works Factory

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Inside A New Skunk Works Factory

"You're listening to the checks podcast. Brought to you. By editors across the aviation week network. This is now have access to special subscription office including a preferential rate the aviation week and space technology going to podcast or aviation week dot com to learn more. Hello and welcome to this edition of aviation weeks checks podcast. I'm going and with me. Today is our defense editor. steve trimble. Who was recently lucky. Enough to visit the lockheed. Martin skunkworks in palmdale california. Not any to visit. It actually got to go inside part of it a new pot which he's going to tell us about today and it's a rare moment for somebody outside of the cloistered world of the inside defense world to actually get inside that building but stave oversee Skunkworks is in the process of essentially reinventing itself as it's Looks to survive and prosper and they in these strange days by moving ready from pristine sort of unique prototypes and demonstrators. To a world. Where it's actually going to enter production phase really in a way going back to sort of roots and part of this is essentially a digital transformation sort of long journey that a lot of aerospace companies are all on around the world but some kitty sort of like kind of explain to everybody. This is a bit different. Why hockey's approach is different and tell us a little bit more about the the digital transformation that they're on yeah so it's it's kind of a two-part transformation that they showed us in in actually quite some detail quite elaborate detail during this tour on august tenth at site tin plant. Forty two also known as skunkworks in palmdale man the two parts to it one is is just on the digital side in his new approach digital engineering and digital manufacturing and the second is the sort of physical in standardization of that with infrastructure in the form of a new factory Huge new factory that they've built in erected on the skunkworks. Campus there in palmdale and So we get to see kind of both sides of that you know. Basically the sort of sub projects that this step by step series of sub projects where they proved out this or if digital manufacturing approach which they are now going to apply to projects. That are actually going to start building in this new factory in what they call building six six four eight on on on the campus so that was That was the point of the of the visit and the tour ride can just to set the scene a little. Now we know that the skunkworks really as it's it's modern era occupies. Most people now in palmdale in that corner of plant. Forty two those two large mainly to large hangar buildings that were built the stall factory in the desert that was built for the tunnel. I haven't program back in the late sixties so where in relation to those huge hang this the new facility right so there's building six. Oh one which is the building that we served commonly associated with the skunkworks quirks. Since it moved to palmdale from burbank in the late nineteen eighties to occupy that. Elton levin building. And so as you're looking straight at elton eleven from the entrance of the skunkworks. I don't know if this helps anybody. it's on. It's it's sort of on the right in sort of behind the front of that building this new factory building. Six four eight. Now if you if you take a top if you go to google maps and look at palmdale look at the walkie. Martin campus on google maps. You're not going to see it. It's still just a dirt strip and that's because all the images of plant forty two have been baseline. I think to twenty sixteen and there hasn't been an update since then. So there's huge dirt patch Which is now a factory. I it you know on that property right and so now you've got to see inside of obviously that the least part of this building and it was pretty strange by all accounts you kind of an earlier discussions about this eve. Sort of Set list similar to going inside of an eye kia kind of like a showroom in many more ways that one in fact there was a whole discussion about how they want us to replicate the ikea's style assembly process in the factory But for advanced and high-performance aircraft not wobbly earner which. I'm actually using right now on. My death may having to spend this last weekend building entire bookshelves. I'm completely while you coming from but it you know the lobby itself as she built into the lobby at this building. It's very striking. Because i mean i you know we go into aerospace factories. All the time they to be pretty drab Functional type lobbies not not something to try to impress allow you or anything with her architectural vision But in this case your sort of entering through this shard of glass that supposed to evoke like the one of the five legs of a star which is lockheed's big corporate symbols the star so You know that's it by itself unusual and then you open the door you go into the lobby and you enter this black lacquer type space with streaks of of silvery. She kind of shiny things On the ceiling and then off to the left is the cafeteria and people listening to this. Podcast probably have seen in aerospace factory cafeteria for the machinists into the engineers. That are working there as usually you know not not a you know a classy type of space. It's not you know uncleaner anything. But it's it's it's very functional This is all i mean. It wouldn't look out a place in like like a swanky restaurant in stockholm or boats. Hotel breakfast bar in manhattan of the it. It's you know all white With very modernist sorta flourishes and touches the lighting fixtures are all very modern. And it feels like you. You should be hearing house music pumping through the lobby. I mean it's just it feels like that should be outing and in fact Because this was a special event it was a ribbon cutting with dignitaries and special visitors They as we were walking from through the lobby into the factory They were playing Levitating by do liba you know. It seemed very appropriate for the setting Which i never would have associated with an aerospace factory before so Not that that you know not the lobby design is all that important to the overall thrust of the of the story but it is striking. Is you walk into right. And of course you know being a sort of a student of history as you are under skunkworks in particular. I know you've you've You've delved into the history of that a lot. And you can't imagine a greater contrast can you between the scruffy back lot of burbank airport and in the nineteen forties and To to this transformation it seems remarkable skunkworks was originally named because of the smell. Well that's one theory of it. But i mean there was a a meat processing plant not too far from where they had the service. Tent erected on on the burbank. Campus for this works in nineteen forty three and had smell is is kind of how this works got its name at least. That's one of the theories anyway but even if it isn't true there was definitely a smell in that and it was all that they know that it it did smell in that in that building but I mean interestingly. I mean kelly. Johnson was very suspicious of that kind of thing. He really didn't like the idea. Kelly johnson the founder of skunkworks will always made it a point not to emphasize flashy buildings and expensive type architecture. You know it was. It was always supposed to be very functional and to show the customer that you're you're not spending money on things. you shouldn't be spending money on Not to say that you know like he's got the wrong idea these days But it is a contrast with house. Skunkworks used to do things absolutely. And i think that's the general santos the us aerospace defense industry. They've always made a point of never showing that the customer is being the that money's pigs misspent on trivial things like gr- great decker and Fancy atriums however let's not we digress. What are the things that i know you were impressed about. The visit was seeing the the work that they've been doing as part of this digital journey that by sort of essentially using borrowing part of the way that they've been working with nasser on on the the low boom quiet supersonic technology aircraft the x fifty. Nine get you describe a little bit about what what that involves in what you saw. Yeah so i mean that goes to the first part of the to respect bar tour was the was the new factory. The first part of the tour was their their star drive process and how they've transition star drive from Basically a experimental thing into an actual digitally in engineering process that they're using for whatever is going to be built in that in that b-actor which is going to be all classified and So what they did is they took us into building six one they actually took us through the tunnels which i've never been before i've been in six at one before but never through the tunnel so in which they joked with where they kept the aliens and stuff. You know fantastic. You know that Is then we go into the big area where everything sort of sectioned off. Only see certain things and one of the things they showed us was the x fifty nine Which is the nasa quiet supersonic demonstrator. That's being built by the skunk totally unclassified It's always something they could they could show us but so in the process of of coming up with this new manufacturing approach Which they call star drive they started with a project named serious which is a reference back to the one of the original single engine motto plans for the nineteen twenties like orion and serious that lockheed. Actually jack northrop design when he was still working for for lockheed to in the twenty s Anyway serious was creating a model based systems engineering digital model For a notional future advanced you a Type concept You know where they could Sort of enable this approach to digital manufacturing by creating this very accurate very detailed digital model of design. So it's not on paper and it can be shared with your suppliers. It can also be shared with the machines at your suppliers use. It can be shared with your environmental control systems in all these things that that go into creating structures that can fit together that even if they're built thousands of miles or hundreds of miles apart When they come into the factory in in palmdale their tolerances lineup to to the to the Thousands of an inch type tolerance which is necessary for especially for stealthy type aircraft in high-performance aircraft So that was the so that that started with Serious was just building the model they moved onto that to project. Charlie where They start with a metallic structure in. This was just within skunkworks It was just sort of a generic metallics metallic structure kind of like a wing With subsystems substructures remained together I just did metallics in. They moved to composites. Metallics have been done in industry before through digital manufacturing and deterministic assembly. But they they considered composite doing this with composite materials to be service step beyond that given the differences in temperature controls and a layup tolerances that are necessary for composite system which proved out that it worked and then they moved onto a project. Polaris which is where they took the section of the x fifty nine a section of it of the fuselage and they gave half of that section disappear narrow systems and sorry. I should say they didn't touch the experti- ninety extra denies. They kept that going right but they they took the design for this section and they gave half of it spirit aerosystems which participated in this in this project and they took the other half and spirit airlines. So this was to basically prove that. A supplier Which is necessary for any sort of large-scale advanced aircraft manufacturing project that a major supplier could develop the the substructure at the same tolerances in the same quality as as the oem could and then they brought together and they were able to make it. They said within minutes with no shems. No corrective type applications and post processing. Yeah and of course the you know that that journey as it were with all of these of these elements to it comes together in one big picture which which really is part of the demonstrates the project speed racer. Which which you've we which you talked about Could you tell us a little more about that as a demonstrator. What what's it for. And what does it actually does. Because i think it really does more than simply prove this whole process. Doesn't it you know it's like some of the parts kind of thing speed racer's really interesting because our understanding of what it is is actually quite a bit since it was first unveiled Almost a year ago. What last september By this works and so will you know what it is i. It started out as a demonstrator as a flying vehicle demonstrator for the new star trek process. And so it was going to demonstrate that you can take this digital model at the in project serious You know with the tool array the the robotics and the automation and The the meeting processes that they proved out with project. Charlie project pereira's and And put it all together in an aircraft that could be an a flying vehicle It's not an aircraft It it the traditional sense. It's like a missile that could be built at scale Very quickly very forcibly and So that that was what Speed racer was since then we've learned that there is an operational customer for a follow on version of that flight demonstrator And that part of it You start getting into more classified territory. We do know the afrl's interested in speed racer. They've published a an agenda of a a classified event they were holding were Speed racer was one of the Was one of the topics that was on the unclassified agenda. So the we know that there's customer the f. r. l. is interested in this which means big air force has some interest in it It could function as a decoy. It could function as a cruise missile. It could fund function as kind of an expendable our asset r. e w type system and similarly in the way to the Miniature air decoy is today but you would expect it to do that But at a much more affordable rate with the in fact the speed racer acronym includes the term radically affordable which is Sort of i think a reference to that And the it would also probably bring in some of the collaboration type and swarming type behaviors. That if earl has been experimenting with through the gray wolf in golden horde programs sort of applying that to to the speed racer And so yeah. We expect that to go into production in building six four eight. At least i expect to go into production. Six four as one of the classified follow on projects right and and of course the classified world. That you've mentioned that really you know will will be the future of this facility You know. I mean obviously speed rice of follow on Whatever that turns out to be Like emulating v six gen You know whatever it's going to be but there are other programs of course now we can only speculate of course as to what these will be but now let's just quickly go through a list of of what skunkworks is already known to be involved in looking at and we can look at next generation dominance. There's a follow on unmanned system. Of course hyper sonics. Which you know you. And i have written and talked about a lot if in recent years so What what's what's next for skunkworks and and how will all be applied. So it's all those things. But really i mean the the fundamental issue the fundamental reason for all for for the fact that we're seeing this and the fact that walking to me so open about is you're trying to communicate with in gad. The next duration or dominance program up for grabs future vertical lift is is up for grabs And is hypersonic Especially air-breathing type programs are up for grabs coming down the line. They need to demonstrate that they can do these very high high-performance very advanced type Aerospace aerospace products without the kind of cost and and in time That it's taken for similar type projects over the last thirty years or so or forty years even really since the nineteen eighties. The where you've had any time you've tried to do fighter or anything really. Sophisticated is taken decades to get it off. Ishida paper in into an operational system that has been fully proved out and get all the bugs worked out or at least most of they need to shorten that too. If not if not months than you know a few years five six seven eight years. Maybe and you know to do that. They have to completely change. The way they're doing. You know boeing is already out front on this you know. They're they've been showing what they are what they can do with t seven. Now they're seven months Something like nine months behind schedule right now. With t seven eight that was which they've attributed mainly to cove it impacts on their international suppliers especially saw but You know lucky you know in northrop. I'm sure also in that game as well They may not be able to Illustrate what they're doing t. Seven as an unclassified program with northrop raspy twenty one Perhaps they're using something similar to that on between one we don't know the lockheed may have some some other things going on as well but this is their first chance to really kinda show what they've got with these big Big contracts up for grabs And you know next generation are dominance would be obviously a very obvious target as well as any future type aircraft If you go inside that hangar four hundred forty feet long and is two hundred ninety feet wide. But it's divided down the middle into two bays with these. I beams down the middle. So you can't get used is one single bay in each bay one hundred and forty five feet wide so it means you can get a good size tactical aircraft in there. You get you to that entire wingspan into that. You get seven three seven into that but you can't get a bomber probably in that space but it opens up the light. I mean you know whether it's going to be scrammed jet powered cruise missiles or you know anything. Related to next generation or dominance future is our aircraft That's the kind of thing that they would be able to put into that facility and use digital engineering practices right. Well of course it is interesting. Isn't it when you think about how oversee in in the big picture Boeing is You know being able to really build a lot. On a lot of these digital practices that have been honed in developed through the commercial work over the because cost has been an absolutely driver and continues to be in that side of the business to whereas lucky to north robin in neither of had that The the the sort of The benefit really of that deep background so belted to to take off. Take from however you know. They've exactly got even more crucial cost questions now to to solve and obviously this is the way to do it. So it. Even though they don't have that commercial experience at boeing they do they can share common supplier so for example we know spirit. Aerosystems is involved in the between one program spirit. Aerosystems is by far boeing's largest commercial supplier. In fact it used to be part of boeing as you though and And they and they are. They have been leaders. Pioneers deterministic assembly In that process for fifteen years. or so. and even ahead of boeing on that on the commercial side And then You know so. They are doing that. But the ultimate goal here is to get to that automotive style Highly automated highly. Modular is d- type approach to a to assembly yet without that kind of volume and On a various or finely crafted very complex shapes that. You don't really see in automotive with very complex material that you don't anger materials and trying to sort of put that together. It's kind of a new. Holy grail of aerospace and defense manufacturing. If you can crack it as boeing thinks that they have on the t seven it opens up this whole idea that you know. We don't have to wait. Twenty years for the next sixth generation fighter. We don't have to wait. You know however long it takes for the next is our craft or casey's The the advanced air refueling program for the mid twenty thirties. That these things could be done much faster and much more affordably. You can get the manufacturing in the design setup to support turning around much faster without this huge breakdown. Yeah i was gonna say Just looking at the whole trend towards trying to bring in the cost benefits of commoditisation type manufacturing lighters with the digital thread. And you know so. The not a long time. I know collectively. You know even down to the sort of Room temperature composites and large-scale manufacturing capabilities. That the such so many elements that they'd be working on for decades in some cases that now probably is. This may be is the showroom of the future where you know you do see all these things coming together. Finally so yeah terrific stuff. I'm i know we could talk a lot about this. There's more to come. I'm sure as we get a chance. So steve thanks again for For your insight into that and again jealous spin wall cycle inside the skunkworks so envious of for that. So i guess that's all time for today of say. Don't miss a single episode. Please subscribe to aviation week's check. Six podcast on apple podcast. 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Mobile Experiences and Growth in Today's World by Google Global Product Lead

The Product Podcast

34:52 min | 1 year ago

Mobile Experiences and Growth in Today's World by Google Global Product Lead

"Welcome to the product podcast brought to you by product school the podcast where you get fresh insight from leaders talk tech companies and startups. Remember you can learn product management in person at our fifteen campuses worldwide or study with us. Online. VISIT PRODUCTS DOT COM to learn more about our courses. You can also hang out with the leaders from these podcasts at are hundreds of annual events and catch us at product cons. The world's largest two PM conference that takes place every year across the United States and in London. Hi Everyone. My name is Alexandra whittaker. I'm a global product lead at Google in San Francisco working on. APP. Advertising but more specifically how mobile web and APP fit better together. Now who this audience has website. and. WHO has an APP? I'm pretty sure that this applies to most of you. At Google, we call these businesses hybrid as they invest in both web and APP. Think of retail travel food delivery, fitness, online education, etc.. I do tend to less with gaming advertisers though as they are mostly at only. I'm here to tell you more about mobile holistically including both web and. Before we begin I'd like to give you a little introduction. I, love. Kite surfing. I used to be afraid of the see the ocean and extreme sports. I would just go to the gym to fitness. Then I decided to get over my fears and Learn Kite Surfing. It was hard and scary at the beginning but now I just can't live without it. It has so many benefits for me. Health Strength Mental Happiness and I met new friends and my boyfriend. Now you may think. Why is she telling us this? Well. It's kind of the same for advertisers and combining web APP. Having an lined mobile approach by combining web and up strategies, it's a hard thing to do. Similarly. Setting deep links to drive users from web to APP. It may seem complicated at first, but once you jump in, it will unlock so. For you. Just like Kite surfing did for me. Research from Forrester and Google Studies show that company mobile experiences have seen three digit growth in mobile conversions. We have many cases on our blog cold think would grow. That showcase this with multiple brands globally. This redick shows the value of investing in optimizing the mobile experience. What we should really understand here is that the lines between what I've been APP continued to. Users. Continuously, switch, between platforms. Forty five percent of shopping sessions include more than one transition between sites and an. People don't buy on the first visit usually. On average immobile shopping session contains visits to an APP and or mobile site. Visitors of up to my sites are three times more likely to download the APP. A uniform and great experience everywhere is important for acquiring oil customers. Do you see yourselves in this. Are Certainly. Do we have so much power with our smartphones get what we want when we want and we want it fast. We switch between web and APP environments, and that's why businesses need to be present on both. Now what all this means is that today's consumer journeys are more complex than ever. Users expect grants to anticipate their needs and make it easy for them to get what they want. No matter how they engage. ADDIDAS. saw that users were quickey turning towards mobile to engage with their brand. They had underinvested in mobile ecommerce efforts and knew that in order to influence digital conversions, they needed to prioritize investing in fast and engaging experiences. I did US unified digital commerce strategy and teams around common KPI's and invested in Progressive Apps you x best practices and site speed improvements. Today more than sixty percent of traffic goes to mobile, and they saw an uplift in sales revenue. Business Uplift from investing in both web and APP. Technologies. Let's take spotify as an example. So a bit of context here. Back, in two seventeen, there was no way to listen to spotify on mobile web. They had a desktop web at supported users on windows, MAC chromosomes, but no option on mobile, and frankly they were unsure if that should change. Things seemed to go pretty well. They had been growing fast and so that their native APPs were posting impressive retention figures. But every day millions of people visited artist playlist and album pages on the mobile website and weren't able to play music because of APP download friction. was. This friction inhibiting their growth potential. To explore this question in more depth, they dived into their user insights and got to the realization that they should have a comprehensive mobile web experience that incapacity both web and APP. Especially for users with no storage space who can't download the APP. Not Having, a compete mobile experience was hurting their growth potential. We help them face this challenge by experimenting with Progressive Webex, a native APPs. The results were impressive. They saw a fifty four percent increase in day. One place. A sustained fourteen percent increase in active users all the way through day sixty. So they, I feared that launching a mobile web experience with cannibalize APP downloads and hurt retention. But it turned out to be the opposite when people have access to a robust mobile web experience. There are actually more likely to download the APP. But I'm back to mobile we have seen some incredible trends. I'm going to tell you a little story. My boss told me that his parents used to go to COSCO every Saturday take groceries for the week. But. With the coronavirus pandemic, they switch to getting their groceries delivered from the INSTA- cards APP. And they're starting to get used to it and it works pretty well for them. As. This is becoming their new norm. You wonder will they revert going back to Costco? Arena and this is digital transformation. A lot of people now have shifted to mobile and acts in particular for multiple needs. Let me share some stats? As the COVID nineteen pandemic disrupted life and businesses these past few months we've talked to many of our retail customers and their concerns and asked how Google could help. We're continuing to hear from these customers about the challenges they're facing especially with closures or restrictions on their physical stores. People are looking for information, they can trust and they're going online to find it. Foot traffic has become online traffic as people shelter at home with forty three percent of global consumers shopping online more frequently. It's important to be consistent across channels. E, commerce retailers have an opportunity to drive sales by reconnecting with APP. According to a global APP survey sixty percent of survey respondents are likely to make an inept purchase in an INAP- they downloaded during the pandemic. So it is in Lebron's best interest to ensure users have seamless experiences to turn a potentially short-term APP install into a loyal and active relationship. Absent sites are uniquely positioned to maintain a consistent. Dialogue? As. Dynamic. Shift. and. APPs account for seventy percent of mobile sales for retailers who invest in mood both mobile web and shopping. Now more than ever people are turning to APP stay healthy, productive, connected, and informed. In fact, worldwide average Wiki time spent in APPs grew twenty percent year over year in Q. One, twenty, twenty suggesting APPs are making a difference in how people navigate through this changing time. Plus sixty percent increase in content streamed think of Netflix Amazon prime, Disney plus. Forty percent increase in fitness downloads thinking of Nike Training Club Fitbit. Which one have you been using? An hundred percent increase in search for education APPS think of masterclass Lingo, you demi. While so much has been going on during these times of digital transformation and there's a lot of complexity to navigate. We've been publishing some blog posts and videos to help up. Feel freighter look through these resources. They provide tips and insights to help businesses with their mobile strategies. We most recently launched this blog post new ways to put your customers, I and achieve your marketing objectives. Sharing some of our new mobile launches that I'll be talking about more. Now. We know that focusing on the user and trading a great mobile experience across web and APPS can drive growth. But. It's not always as simple as that. Designers developers and product teams may have the best intentions but often are not empowered by leadership to do what is best for the user. So how do brands achieve that? Creating a great user experience must be supported by the right organizational design and culture. As, we work to make fast seamless and personalized experiences on mobile. The single largest impediment is organizational design and culture. Ask Yourself. Is Your Company ready for this? Here's a quote from the CIO. Talking about how difficult it is to work through organizational of Changing IT technology or changing the paradigm around marketing is a much easier part of digital transformation. Then internal organizational readiness and shifting enterprise thinking culture change is much harder and that's the strongest muscle that we had to build. Executive leadership needs to invest in the right technologies and get by an across the organization. Marketing analytics team should be continued to see measuring and optimizing for new revenue opportunities. Developers, need to be up to speed on the latest mobile development tools and techniques. Designer should be intimately familiar with mobile, you x practices and work closely with developers to create the best experience. That, of course, comes with establishing specific mobile KPI's and constant monitoring to access optimal mobile performance. I'm going to speak of my personal experience working on a product team. When you're product manager, you tend to be very focused on the product. But you also have to be aware of how hard it is to sell your products through and get them implemented due to these organizational does. This is one of the biggest challenges my team has been facing. We want to get a product out there but we're faced with so adoption due to organizational challenges mostly on our advertiser said. I also recently had a meeting with Austin, the CEO of branch. They're also working on deep linking solutions and he told me that this is the number one challenge to drive adoption. It's hard to get to older people. Research from McKinsey and company shows that user I companies stay successful by incorporating the following ingredients. One, an analytical leadership driving design with the same rigor as revenues and costs. To. Know, silos breaking down the walls between different designed departments. Three user centric design in everyone's responsibility. And for development is dearest by continuously listening testing and iterating with end users. And leadership is committed to making this happen right across the business. Let's take a quick pause. Does your business have these ingredients. There's definitely seems to be a topic of top of mind I. Mean I was swirling through Lincoln last weekend and came across this article from Harvard as well. This article again highlights the complexity of breaking down organizational goals for more horizontal cross functional relationships. A quote in there from the senior partner in the leading consulting firm. You know you should swim farther to catch bigger fish, but it is a lot easier to swim in your own pund and catch a bunch of small fish. However, it is proven that companies who have figured this out are seeing success from it with employees, performing better and gaining greater customer loyalty. We put together this playbook to help any organization that wants to transform its mobile prisons to benefit the user. We outlined principles from the realm of change management and tailor them to mobile programs. You can use these techniques, tactics and tools to tackle a complete user experience overhaul. He'll free to read it and share with your teams by searching the mobile I transfer mation handbook. Moving on, you must be wondering how does the product team at Google think about this trying to encourage the combination of Web APP while facing these challenges we spoke about. Or are you thinking about? How this applies to the company you work at. Or do you face similar challenges in your role? As this is the product school. I'm going to talk about how me the product team at Google have been approaching these challenges. And I hope you can find some of this useful. First of all, let me reassure you this has been a long process many over the past five years trying to come up with a cohesive mobile strategy in narrative. Google also had. Station. And the product teams tend to focus on their swimming. At. One. Top leadership involvement to help unblock barriers. To. Talking to many customers to really understand their needs to drive value and their main pinpoints. Three. Working Cross functionally across the different product teams but also various functions from engineering to PM's go to market teams, tech support and sales. It's important to regularly meet and align line KPI's. Four. Build internal tools I as a stopgap while we work on. The external tools. With sales teams using our internal tools they've been able to provide us feedback on what is working and what isn't. For example, my focus on deep linking, we have internal tools that Google's can use to troubleshoot and check D.. Pink Coverage. Last. One least build frameworks to make the end goals care. It is so much easier to drive progress when you know what fits wear and how to move towards the Northstar. Let me share some specifics. is important to a line of products with our customers, marketing and business objectives. Always think about what the customer needs, get that market feedback and then build the products accordingly. Here for example, we decided to explore what happens after the Ad Click. As, we're talking about APP and Web. We listed all the top initiatives to drive better mobile you X. for eappen web side by side for example, GP side speak deep linking. You quickly realize that running both in parallel is super important. We're not talking about APP vs Web but APP, and web better together. The more you work towards this in parallel, the better user experiences you can provide. Here's also some of the thinking we've been applying to our strategy. We came up with this curve as we understand that our customers are in different stages of the product life cycle. The key questions we ask. Do you have an up. Do you have enough instals. Measurement. K., in your up. Do you have deep links. Based on where customers are at, we have the relevant product and features for that stage. Once, you have all those you've reached the most advanced stage of at maturity. And it really comes in that order. For instance, there's not much point investing in deep links if you don't have an APP with a significant user base. And annexed indicate to measure the affectivity. We've seen that advertisers to reach the advanced stage are getting the most Roi from their APP and marketing, spent? It's just so important to invest in. APPS. As diluted before it is essential to have frameworks. Like that is care to align on common goals and build right products. As user journey span across both mobile sites and APPS, and it's important to give users a great experience on both. What exactly does that mean? Well. When users land on your site or APP. First Impressions, matter, get fast stay fast. If you don't deliver what people want quickey, they will leave and find someone else that will. When they browse, make it seamless for users to navigate and compete key actions. So he can convert more visitors into customers. When they return, deliver, personalized, and relevant experience. And so the product team has at Google has been building features that fit in these buckets, faxed seamless and personalized. Or give an example of each. Help people get what they want faster. We recently launched a revamped version of the test, my site till. As, the stakes are high on mobile. If, you don't get people what they want quickey. They'll take their business elsewhere. In fact, we recently found that for retail sites improving your site load time. By point, one second can help you improve by eight percent. Just. My site has been an important tool for helping diagnose site speed and providing custom tips on how to make it faster. We recently updated the tool to provide specific recommendations on how you can improve your mobile site, yon speed and deliver more personalized and seamless experiences. Then that second bucket. Deliver more engaging in helpful add experiences. Many marketers already used feeds in display shopping and local campaigns to quickey upload and showcase products in ads. With more product images directly in your head consumers are able to easily and seamlessly fine what they're shopping for. Or. Now, working on rolling out fees in APP campaigns. Wish an e commerce company used feeds to display diverse products from it marketplace. Wish also enabled deferred deep linking, which gave new APP users a smoother on boarding experiences. From APM still straight to the item they saw in the AD. So here's a specific example on how this works. If a new user taps on her wish at running shoes, she will be directed to her APP store to instill the wish APP. After installing an opening up the first time, she would automatically land on the running shoes product page to learn more and make a purchase. Since adopting feeds and for deep linking Waesche has seen one hundred, five percent increase in purchases from its APP. Wishes head of growth marketing said. These features have made are more discoverable and appealing to customers. Finally that third bucket about. Make it easier for your customers to take action. Loyal customer stick with brands that make it easy for them to get things done. For, customers who already have your APP installed deep linking lets them get to the relevant page in the APP without having to log in or re enter information. Last year at Google marketing live also known as GM l.. We announced APP deep linking from search display shopping ads. In the coming months. We'll be rolling out deepening king from Youtube Hotel Djamil Discovery Ads. On average deep linked added experiences drive to x the conversion rate. Let's say someone is watching a cooking video on youtube and sees the discount for to our grocery delivery. One she taps on the AD. She's taken directly to a page in the stores APP to place an order. Rackets and Ishida. A Japanese ECOMMERCE company found that enabling deep linking helped. It's loyal customers take on ads directly in the brand's APP. Resulting in four x mobile purchases and three. X. Conversions. Now about that let's talk about this more. I'd like to spend the last section talking about deep linking, given the importance of it yet the small adoption. Hope you're still with me. What we should really understand here in fact, is that the lines between web and APP continued to Her Users continuously switch between platforms forty five percent of shopping sessions include more than one transition between sites in an APP. and. People usually don't buy on the first visit. On average mobile shopping session contains only six visits. Between an APP and mobile site. If, you have a mobile APP. APP deep linking is a great way to reduce friction when bringing APP users back into your APP. USERS tapping links have one goal in mind to get the content they want to see. Deep linking allows to take users who have your APP installed to a link specific content directly in your APP rather than the mobile website. And this provides such better user experience. I mean if you have the APP on your device that means you're probably familiar with the. It is sleek. An older information is already in there your address credit card details and so on. And this allows much quicker and easier conversion process. In this example user who has the auto APP installed does a search on Google and sees shopping ad for leather jacket. When she clicks on the ad, she has taken straight into the relevant artifact pain. Rather than the mobile website. Advertisers who enable this up to two X. increase in conversion rates when APP users click on mobile search shopping or display ads and opening the APP via mobile website. Ozone is one example of a customer who has seen a great boost to their AD performance after enabling APP deep linking. They saw fifty four percent boost of conversions a thirty three percent increase in our y four x more purchases from their campaigns. So how does this work? To ensure success think of it as a set of features it's not just about deep linking, but also tracking those APP conversions and bidding to them. For deep linking we support. On android and universal links on Iowa's. These are the industry standard. There are many different types of deep links in ecosystem like read our x custom schemes third. Party links. But. We support these two types only many because it's the right thing to do for the user. then. When you have deep links but if you don't have APP conversion tracking, that's the problem. We've seen advertisers drive users into the APP, but then not capturing value. It is very important to setup APP conversion tracking. Either in Ajay for fire base or your APP attribution provider such as APPs fire, or adjust to ensure your property measure your marketing activities. If not we call this the leaky bucket. Finally once you have the basic plumbing in place with deep linking and conversion tracking, the ultimate components is bidding to boost performance. By enabling smart bidding Google's algorithms will bid higher to users who have the APP installed on their device for better experiences. What's the benefit for the advertiser? Our data shows significant uplift for advertisers who have adopted these three components. That said. Across those three dimensions, the key benefits of APP deep linking are. Deliver more seamless mobile add experience. Direct your APP customers from your adds to where they can easily compete their desired action in your APP. Close the loop on. Mobile. Conversions. Define and measure important conversions for both your mobile website and your APP. Help improve mobile our way. Optimize for performance using conversion data from your mobile website an APP. Back, to those two x conversions I spoke about earlier. So, as you can see, there are benefits both for the user and the advertiser. As touched upon there is confusion in the market due to the deep linking ecosystem. Here's a bit more about why we you support Apple Inc's and universal links and no other types such as redirects. First off, it is important to highlight that they are the industry standard across Iowa and Android. They allow you to use our key features. They are more secure than other types of deepening. So let me share some examples. Some other company can clear customs scheme. Or when it comes to read Eric's, we can't ensure whether user is going to lend. Find any what I like about these is that they don't break allowing for that friction less experience. The URL remains the same meaning that if the user does not have the APP they will be directed into the mobile website. If they have the APP, they'll be directed into the APP. We very recently launched the destination report at the end of June. To give you better insight into where consumers are landing and converting from your ads, you can use at this nation reporting Google ads. It basically allows advertisers to get a better sense of where their consumers are ending up. How they're converting from ADS and which environment is performing best. You May, for example, see that your APP drives higher R. Y. So you may want to shift more focus to it. Having a product roadmap is a core component for product teams as your priority with. It allows to get people excited about what's to come. We're currently working on launching smart bidding on product listing ads allowing to boost performance on shopping. It's if the algorithm detects that the user has the APP installed. It will bid higher. Then, deep linking expansion. Last year Google Marketing Live we announced APP deep linking from search display and shopping ads. In the coming months we'll be. Rolling up deepening king from Youtube Hotel g mail and discovery adds to make sure it's consistent across the board. Then, deep linking external tools I spoke about using internal tools before making them external. We plan to launch a deepening coverage tool and a deepening validation tool in the UI to simplify adoption for advertisers. And last but not least in this new era in which we talk about unifying weapon up. will be launching many more features to measure the to heuristic. I heard so many advertisers saying that they struggle with web measurement and they do crazy work arounds to track them separately and then stitch it altogether for more comprehensive view. And we really want to help with that. I'd like to flag that planning ahead is essential especially for retail hugh for is the most important quarter of the year for retailers across the world with events like singles day. Black Friday cyber Monday Christmas As businesses one to avoid risks of bugs and features breaking during that primary time. Retailers need to have all the plumbing in place. In Q. Three. Hence. The urgency to work on this now. We've seen that the impact of web APP together is huge for retail. Hence, this is an opportunity not miss. inclosing let me recall the key takeaways from today. Understand your customers and what mobile surfaces best meet their needs. In formulating your web and APP strategy, understand your customers and how they transition across women at. Be Nimble and keep testing. Be Willing to experiment in tests where possible your APP business can benefit from PWA's and vice versa as we learned from the spotify case study. Watch for trends, in, the marketplace. Imagine your hotel chain, and you didn't see AIRBNB coming. Or you're a taxi business and you didn't at based Uber. Coming. Be on the lookout how mobile technologies disrupt existing business models and giving tech savvy? A competitive edge. Plan ahead, for instance, get ready for that holiday season before it's too late. Break Organizational Silos. Great. Those walls to align your organization to your mobile ambitions. Last. But not least if you're interested in more content about this topic, feel free to check out these two youtube mobile on air videos. My colleague Schimmel talks about building a great experience across web and APP Going more into the specifics. And my colleague. Talks about the business value of an APP specifically for hybrid advertisers. It was a pleasure being with you here today I. Hope you could acquire some valuable insights speak soon and Stacey. Thank you. Thank you for listening to the product podcast. If you like this episode, don't forget to leave a review on I. Tunes for more product insights head over to product school dot Com.

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Ep 4 - A Silent Voice & Bullying in School Life

PoodKast: A Bong Review Show

46:23 min | 3 months ago

Ep 4 - A Silent Voice & Bullying in School Life

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