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What the Chung? with Jamie Chung

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What the Chung? with Jamie Chung

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My birthday this past weekend today, actually is my birthday. Happy birthday. Thanks. Thank you, Janet co host, gene. And we have the gorgeous and talented, Jamie Chung. How are you? Good. Thanks god. I can't believe how long we've known each other now ages. I don't even want to count the years. It's definitely over a decade or decade for shorter. So I was just telling Janet how we met, and it was a for you listeners on set of entourage like doing background work at the Queen. Mary is right. Oh, man. I wonder if I can share the story air. Yeah. I remember it was the episode where it was on the Queen Mary having this huge, Victoria secret party, all the models were there. I do remember that like one of the models. She didn't wanna come out of the the fitting room, so or trailer. So they were auditioning random girls like background artists. Yeah. The background. Yeah. I'm to audition for their role. And I remember I was like this is this is the chance this is my this is my chance to prove myself, and they ended up doing it. So it was no big deal. But you can see me in the background of Victoria's Secret models so sane our claim to fame. Yeah. That is not a place. I think I'd be behind the Victoria secret bottles, and like now don't compare my body to there's I mean, it was so much fun. Because like we were literally like at Vinnie chases birthday party McLean Mary with the Victoria's Secret models. It was like my favorite thing about that show. Was it just was so realistic? It was so LA that it's like I actually felt like he was Vinnie chasing real life. Not Adrian gronyea. Yes, by that was such a fun show. I did. I did so many episodes background work for that show. Eighteen hour days was miserable. Back for Lang beach. Two hundred bucks. Probably well, we got the model Ray which was above. So we got like three hundred dollars. Yeah. Hey back in like, oh, seven the hot was good. Oh, that's like at home. That's me. My sister's coming over today. Yes. So gosh thought was and then do you remember doing that weird photo shoot for a calendar? I was like SRI out of college. We'd just meant. I thought this was before prior to entourage was it. But it was like a racetrack somewhere in like but fuck nowhere and like inland empire. And we did a photo shoot for like a race car track Irwindale speedway. Oh my God. The not was before because I used to work there when I was like in high school, I got there. Yes. So the first thing I ever did background work on was a MU. Movie called biker, boys. And that was in like, I don't know maybe like two thousand and one while it was like, my junior senior year of high school, and I got my first sag voucher. I was just working at the speedway, and we see like all of these like movie trailers, and we're like, oh, we wonder what's going on over there. And we heard kid rock was there. And we're like no what a sixteen year old just like casually like walking around sat like we owned the place run into kid rock. Meet him got a polaroid with them. Why? Yeah. There were no cellphones. About gun you failed to mention this. When we met kid rock again. I said I wish I had that only a polaroid. And I know I have it in a box somewhere in storage. I can literally picture it. I'm like, platinum blonde. But so then this producer. I mean, I don't even remember his name. But it was like the typical Hollywood producer. Hey, do you wanna be in my movie, and I was like, yeah. Totally so me and my girlfriend. Got cast like background just like up in the stands like when they were doing one of the race. That is so funny. Oh my God. Yeah. So and then I remember so I met and we're still good friends. Dante Bosco who played Rubio. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So I met him on that movie. And I wanted to like I didn't want anyone to know that I was still in high school only sixteen. So I lied until when I was eighteen I wasn't. But I know those were the days that was good times while pre cell phones. Yeah. Like ancient anyway. So that's how we met. Yes. Okay. So I want to go like way back, and then we're going to bring it to today. Okay. Great. So how did it come about you doing the real world? Well, I I went to UC riverside. I graduated with a bachelor of arts in economics and business, and I was working. It was my freshman year my sophomore year, I was. Far backing at this bar in UC at like right near campus called tremors. I was working there. Cocktail hours like. Sister. Okay. And she's in I was working at tremors part time. But then I was also working at a restaurant called Boston over just did to pay my call the Novo. Yeah. It's not the bus in over that. You're thinking though, it's another one if it's more of a Mexican restaurant. Yes. Only mercedes. But so anyways, I was working my shift at tremors, and they were doing open casting calls for the real world. And it's always, you know, I grew up watching the real world and they asked me to audition, and I did. So I participated in this like giant cattle call and you know, the chances of getting onto a show like that are, you know, seven spots. Right. Very few and far between strangers. Exactly. So. You know, it was an interesting opportunity, especially at that time in my life. So I just decided to do it. So how old were you? When you did the show. I was nineteen. Wow. Oh, okay. Because Cam I remember like have their fake ID. We all do. Okay. And they were all taken away the first one. Yes. Okay. Do you remember that? Because I remember being down in San Diego. And I was like do not use a fake ID. They don't work down here. They do not. They're so strict, I was like, we're only Jen you're not gonna be able to tell me, this is not you deem it and Cam who was on. Did you watch that real world back in the day? I saw some of it back in the day. So she's on southern charm now. Yeah. I I always forget that she stares. I I love Ron southern charm. Yeah. Wow. So what was the okay, how real was the real world? I mean, I was just asking Sheena the same question as we're walking into the building. Would I loved about the real world was that it was it was a social experiment needs taking seven young impressionable kids at a very young age in a time in their lives where things are changing and they're exploring their environments and discovering things about themselves. And so it's a really impressionable time. But aside from that, they carefully pick out seven people from different socioeconomic backgrounds people with different religious beliefs. And they bring them all together into one house. And of course, there's going to be conflict like, no, there's no story without conflict. Right. And so it was a great, social experiment. And I was so proud to be a part of it. But it was absolute madness. You know, we're just kids and there's booze and we're not we're in a house on on her own in San Diego. Like a mansion like it's just human. Keep in touch with anybody from the show. What I do think, thanks to social media. I keep in touch with Robin and Brad quiz, occasionally, he's in Las Vegas and Cameron. I just recently saw when I was doing a campaign there. I saw Cameron in South Carolina. So we keep in touch, and I had a lot of questions about motherhood, and he you know, we were kind of on the same page last time I saw each other and jeers had a baby. So she's she's helped out a lot. Yeah. I loved watching her become a mom on the show 'cause she talked about for a long time how she was terrified of having kids and didn't think it was for her. And then you see her become this amazing. Mom, she you know, we had such a great conversation. But she was saying was the best thing ever. And just reassurance. That I needed to hear from a woman and not from a man, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I love that. Could you imagine? If they put the Vanderbilt rules costs in a house together live together. I don't see other it would instantly turn into investigation discovery. Someone would get killed. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. It would be James James would get killed. Let's be I do feel like though, I mean not now because now everyone's so much older and getting married and probably having kids soon and buying houses and whatnot. But I feel like if a few years ago, they would have like opened up, you know, the restaurant in Vegas like they just said if that happened a few years ago, and they put all of us and like a house or like one of those dope suites at the poems or something together. And we helped train the staff and open it. I feel like that was such a missed opportunity of November will totally relate. I mean, everyone's just so old now and like in relationships, and like, it would have been fun when it was like, you know, Jack season three or like those times I feel like that would have been a nice little like the Kardashians. They have their spin offs. Just like a little side like Vanderbilt Pearl stakes Vegas. I'd watch it. Yeah. And I watch your show but back to your question, it's very real. There's nothing scripted about it. And you know, I have some friends or I knew some people on the hills. And other MTV reality shows, and it's very much scripted. But it was really to see how these these natural conflicts worked out, and I thought Vandross pump was scripted. And she just told me I wish it will. I really exactly I response you could lay them finale lost. We did I'm all gone up. I'm like always so excited about Mondays no matter where I am. I was you need to bring the penguin certificate to the Bravo clubhouse. The penguins or ticket framed behind Andy, I need to still go meet this paying thing. I mean, they reach out to you and say they'd give you a free tour of the penguins. Well, no, I paid a thousand dollars. It's not a free to charitable donation, which I do not regret. And I tweeted something about it. And I was like I made the largest donation Paswan. Someone's like, why do you always have to make things about money? I'm like, no, there's like tears on when you go on the aquarium of the Pacific website. It's like for fifty dollars. You can do this for two fifty. You can do this for five hundred for thousand. It was beat the penguins. Yeah. But it was like the biggest package they offered. And I'm like if I'm going to do this like I'm going to go all out God, the most expensive package that was like the like meet and greet with the penguins like behind the scenes tour like you get like all of these cool things admission, obviously and all of that. And we just never want all go fuck out him go. Yeah. Let's go. Let's penguin. We're going to change her name to that was never like a fish. It was just like six. Jested sorry out on the penguins name Janet now. Janet, the Bangor. Yeah. So I really do wish I could say that our show was scripted. But. I mean, it's edited and produced, but it's not scripted. So it's real. Yeah. It is unfortunately, and that night, I drink a lot like, I think you see me just like, chugging wine and tequila lie. Not getting absolutely loved. And I know people were saying that you guys need your own spinoff you and mama bike. She. Oh, yeah. 'cause they're they're celeb- Cup a couple of Mashima now. But I loved her like comforting you and giving you vice on your crying. It was like I would love the things like mom's advice, but grandma's advises even better now, and I don't have a grandma anymore. So I just loved watching you guys like she might takes Vegas like we need like. The two of you guys. I loved that. Yeah. Like a dating show where like mammal has select screen all the dude I love that idea refund. So is it safe to say that you are no longer dating? Adam see, here's the thing. We technically we're never dated. Gotcha by no. We are no longer seen each other now out really or anything. Yes. It just it got too complicated. And it's like we were such good friends. But the second we crossed that line which was kind of inevitable. I mean, we obviously were talked to each other. So it was kind of like a long time coming, but we knew once we did that things were going to change and they did. But then it was like everything was fine until I went on that date. But it was. I know I so he was good. Good gorgeous. Yeah. He was a bartender watch. What happens live? On a bartender. He was a model. Okay. So we did the it was like the night of twenty one doorbells in LA at the Wilton. Beg like watch it up invive thing. And literally the second Janet, and I walk in. I see this gorgeous guy walked by knows like hold on double take. I'm like super yummy. Oh my God. And he's so my eyes popped out of her head. Here we go. This is going to be bad. I give someone asks who's your Taiba? I'm like, I have two types. There's like the Shomar more type. And then there's Ethan Adam is not my type he's just like he's too white too blonde blue eyed like he's gorgeous. But like just that's not my type. So I see this guy who is the epitome of my time. And I'm like any my God. Yes. And Andy, and he produces music, and you got down on you and got so far important. But so so a meet him in LA when I was because I was doing my show in Vegas last year. I met him when I was just here for like one of my twenty four hour trips, and we hit it off right away exchange numbers. The next week. He was in Vegas with me came to see my show. We went out we went to top golf like so much fun hooked up. And then literally the day. I moved back to LA he moved to London for the summer. So it was like we missed each other by day. And then we kept in touch all summer like via Instagram and texting and whatnot. And so when he was coming back in town old like, wait. It was like I mean, if you'd be down to like because we were going to hang out, regardless if you'd be down to do it on camera like I know that loved a cut me on one last date before the season Rob's. Here's like I'm down. Let's be you were technically a single eighty. You're dating multiple people fine. I just think that kind of thing comes also with a layer of maturity to be able to handle the fact. That if you're not willing to fully commit then you have to be willing to know that that person is going to deter the people commonsense. And like I mean, I'm now thirty four today. So it's like you look like a baby. Thank you wearing no makeup. And you look like a baby. Thanks. I just got the bus facial. Yeah. New car. Oh, yeah. I love her. So I feel very rejuvinated right now. But yeah, just like with autumn. It was just it was so frustrating because there was clearly a connection there like we hung out almost every day. And like never got sick of each other. I mean, traveled all around the country one to Iceland together. Like, we've been to so many different cities and states and places together that it was just like it worked, and it was easy, but he wouldn't come in. And I'm like, look, I'm divorced and all I know is I don't wanna end up alone. So I'm gonna keep my options open. If you're not going to be that person for me, and he knew that. But I think he thought that I just was never going to act on it. It. But I brought it up for like a month. I'm like, so really wouldn't bother you bugged up with someone else. If I went on a date with someone else. He's like, no. I mean, like just don't have it be like one of my friends because like the two guys I dated earlier that here. Where they won worked at, sir. One worked at pump. I just keep it in the fam-. So yeah, he was just like, please. Don't get back with like one of those dudes because that would be weird. And I'm like, yeah. That ship sailed like he's like, but if it's someone like, I don't know. I don't care do you. All right. So I did. And I mean how Adam just even responded to that photo like commie vein. Whatever like, obviously, the guy I'm sleeping with. If I send you a sexy photo, I'm expecting a response anything not. I didn't ask for that. And neither did he thin. And he sure liked didn't over next week to cook me dinner and go there, so yeah. But enough about that. We've done the Vanderbilt roles recap last week. Okay. So you I feel like are literally the only reality star to become like a full-time working legit. Actress like I can't think of any other reality stars who have heard of what fifty two credits on your. I'm DB. I mean, say your resume half of them are really bad. But you know, but still I mean that you gotta take the work door amazing. Thank you. I mean, it, you know. You know, it's still I still feel like the reality thing is stigma a negative stigma. Yeah. But luckily, it's been ages since I've done it. So I feel like hopefully, it's more about the work that I'm presenting them in the moment versus what I've done in the past. But it's still a constant uphill battle. And and I would like to challenge that that comment by saying I feel like Mike them is. For example, is yes, you'll in it, and it's still formative acting. He's like segue into this like amazing career, very he was to be my neighbor back in the really, yes. Just the Sweden. I'll say Runyon canyon such a sweetheart. I telling they all lived up there. Everyone lived up there doesn't he have a new show. That's out right now. He does its own reality show with his wife. Yeah. Cute little family. So awesome. Yeah. But it's like very few reality stars do break out and have like a legit career after the show. So that's that's what I have to figure out. What is you're on your way? You just went. You know, you did a show. In Vegas, which was super neat thing. It's really it was so much fun. And like I'm doing this every week. I have my degree in broadcast journalism. I do want to like break more into hosting. I've always said I want to live in New York once in my life, though, you're not allowed. I know Janet's. I'm like, I don't know next year. She just moved here. Now, you yeah. But I wouldn't leave I wouldn't leave until next year. You're still not leaving. Then I don't know. I just I feel like there's a lot of opportunity out there in the hosting media news world in New York that we'll see hey, shenanigans can go on the road. You know this. No, we're staying here. Sorry. So what was your first big acting role after the real world? I did. Gosh, what was called? It was called as I think it was as the world turns. Oh, my soap opera, I had a pretty significant arc on that. And then I jumped to my own series on ABC family. And I was the lead of that. And then I don't know it just kind of snowballed into bigger and bigger responsibilities. And and then, you know, there are years where I did just a couple of guests Dr spots and and other years where I worked on stop. It's just the nature of the total base. And you know, it's just it's always going to be in flow. Yeah, it's inevitable. But you've worked with like some big like Alice names. I mean, the hangover grownups. So what Madison? Yeah. Yes. She works at, sir. She did. Yeah. I came back recently. No, she just moved again. Did you move again? She did she was like six months ago like she came back to Thermo like wait, you're back. Like, we thought you were gone. She's gone. She's a gem. Yeah. My favorites. Just like all around good person inside and out. Yeah. When she was working. I already knew that she worked at circus. I saw her on the shell my God. That's funny. But I remember coming into. Yeah. I'm I'm quite obsessed. And then recently, we checked out Tom, Tom. It's delicious drink. I got. The food. But literally align, and my friend had to like get us in by pulling a few strings without waiting in line. Oh, Allie Laskey. Yes. Oh that was actually pulling those. Thank you. You're welcome. Doing that. She texted me, and she was like, oh, she's like can you come at me, Jamie. And I and I couldn't at the time. It was like I missed you guys about like an hour. 'cause I was there later that night darn and I was like go up to the door guy. Say you're my friend, do not wait in line. So it's thing. Yeah. One question before we move on the reality stuff. I'm so intrigued so you only work there. You don't need to work there. You only work there. There's only contingency like you have to be you still have to work at certain order to be on the show. No, you guys make the show. You guys are the show. So do you only work there seasonally like only when filming now that like I mean, financially we don't have to work there regularly? It's also just impossible like when we go in. I mean, people just left and right photo voters. Exactly, you can't get anything done. So when we're filming were there at least twice a week. But in the off season what we've figured out works better. Now is for us to just host nights. Like, Tom Sandoval does tequila too. As we do our girls night in like every third or fourth one day. I'll go in for dinner to other times than just kind of like hang out more. So make an appearance because whether I'm in my dress or not it doesn't matter like, I can't wait tables anymore. And when people are asking me for photos or want to have a conversation. I can't be rude to them and be like, well, sorry, I have to go run their food or so it's just it became impossible and sir pools tips, so it'd be one thing if I had my own section. I'm making my own money if I'm giving shitty service, and I'm making shitty tips, that's on me. But when I'm busier taking photos and someone else is picking up all the slack. And then I'm making the same amount of money as them, it's just not fair. And so when I kind of worded it that way. Mike, what can we do to where none of us are above certain? None of us are too good to work at, sir. It's just we can't. Yeah. So either we the cast do not pull tips or we just don't work here unless we're filming because it's just it's impossible. It's the letter. Yeah. Sing is better for you guys. Anyway, that's what people come in. I mean, they're coming in while you're there now. Yeah. So you're you're you're talking with the guest host tonight. Dr perform one of my song or Bod cut down people's. Yeah. I know we were supposed to do on a couple of weeks ago, and everyone's schedules. It's just like everyone's been out of town travelling, and we just like can't all be moving target. Yeah. But it's so hard to like all be in town the same day, and it's a one day thing. So it's like it has to be a Wednesday. But we're we're going to bring him back this summer you'll have to come out there. Yes. Yeah. I'll our. Check. Yeah. So fun. Okay. I want to know how you in Brian, Matt. Well. My husband my husband, and I we met ages ago. Do you guys? Remember when nylon you should throw these parties, it was like the young Hollywood already. Yes. So I met him with his friend, Chris and they're both actors, and we knew of each other from our producers because he was on a show called October road Inc. You now I was a show. And I remember I met him out one nine oh my God. It's the guy from October road. Like, it was like totally fan Girling, actually. So it was October road. And I had a different show with you know, with the same producers midnight radio, and we just knew of each other. But he was dating someone else. I was just out of a relationship. It was a very kosher conversation. We went our ways without exchanging numbers. Very polite. And then we just our paths kept crossing. So it was very similar to the story. We did this movie called it's already tomorrow and Hong Kong in it's about like the stars aligning and missed opportunities in lake he just kind of like. How fate brings you together. Yeah. But that's very much. Our our story. That's all. So had you seen him in anything. Or did. You just meet him just like at the parties. Now, I saw him a couple of parties I heard of him. And then, you know, these producers are like he was fantastic in prime you should watch prime. And so I watched prime which also stars Thurman and Meryl Streep, and that's the one that got me. Yes. This guy what a Heidi dorm? So have you guys been married? We have been married for years. Oh, congrats. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Everything's working progress. Every relationship is. I was so bummed when October road got candidate. I think it was what two seasons. Maybe it wasn't long enough. And I don't think we ever found out if he was the doubt of the kid or not he definitely was right? It was like I mean, it was then it was like you never like found out. No. Yeah. It's it's so it's so sad. When when seasons end after. Yeah. Yeah. To just to I know it wasn't long enough. And now here we are going on season eight like, hey, it's incredibly easy. It's it's a blessing because. Yeah, you know, it's so hard to get anything scripted past season to Mike. That's that's the tough one even postseason one. Yeah. You guys are truly breast blessed and to see an breast. Less. But to see the transformation of you guys. It's really fun to watch. Yeah. When they play season one at sir able on like above the bar. They play episodes at the show, and they always place these in one I'm always like who are these people? I don't have any if you've got an eating. It's so amazing. And it's like I mean if you look at season one Sheena in season seven Sheena like, yeah, I get why people think I've had worked. No, I've just I've grown up twenty five. They lost your baby. Literally, still baby. I didn't eyelashes a were way. Too much black eyeliner. I didn't have my veneers. Then didn't have any lip filler. What am I I've never gone under the knife? Like, I just I've never done anything. Like always thinking about a nose job. Yeah. But I'm like, okay. But one did I recover from it. Because I'm literally on social media every day for five six years. My face is on snapshot every day. So I'm like one did I recover from the job with just like they've always have the same knows? I'm looking at. Yeah. I still like ten years ago bump on it from when I broke it when I was a kid, and I never got it fixed. But people are going to believe what they want to believe sometimes an Umberto just Google like Sheena before and after nose job. See the comeback sin. And I'm like, it's it's literally just a different angle about like bad makeup better makeup. Yeah. But yeah, it's so funny to see the before and after plastic surgery when I haven't had any, but yeah. So you recently froze embryos did now tipped is have anything to do with why Tyler Henry told you that it would be difficult to have kids. Oh, you know, you know, what's so weird? I did Tyler Henry when I was still shooting season two of the gifted, and I don't I don't believe in mediums, but I was open to it. And a lot of the things, you know, his his his producer who I kind of note through the grapevine, but she explained to me that they're very careful about tarnishing any interaction between Tyler and his. The people that he's reading so they're very responsible in a way where they don't. They don't tell him who he's going to meet, you know, they bring them in and van like, it's all very well controlled, you know, because it's variable that can easily go awry, so they make sure that he doesn't know who he's interviewing and it was quite skeptical. And you know, I feel like I don't know what I'm putting out there. But it's just the constant stress of like, what am I going to have kids? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I'm ready. You know, it's this is this constant like inner dialogue. That's that's happening. And all my friends are getting pregnant, and so, you know, it's a it's a struggle that I've been dealing with. And it's the it's one of the first things he mentions. Yeah. You know, in terms of no, I was I was doing my research about freezing my eggs in going through the process a couple years ago. It's a conversation that my husband, and I had but we didn't act on it. We just at the research. But after that, I didn't even put into. Together. I just other people put that together. Like, oh, you're gonna have a hard time getting pregnant. I was like there's no way. Well, I don't know. Maybe I've never been pregnant. So I have no idea. Right. You know? But I I went through the process, and it was fairly painless considering it's only a two week process, and at the end of it, hopefully, you have some really healthy viable eggs on ice. And that's what we decided to do. And I'm really glad I did. Because I thought I had a healthy amount. I got way more than I go. See this is the conversation we were having. So we both go to Dr Qadeer on. He's at the southern California reproductive center, and he's one of the best doctors out there. Yeah. They have the state of the art facility. They have you know, they're the freezers, and like all this great technology that takes pictures of the growth of the eggs and embryos. And so nothing has to be taken out of the Frisian put back into the freezer, which is really, you know, which which damages essentially so. He told me that I we have about seven healthy frozen eggs, but I talked to another girlfriend of mine who is around the same age and they pulled out fifty. Fifty and they made embryos fifty healthy embryos. Insane. And she's she's in her mid thirties in try. Yes. That's crazy. I mean, the surgery, you know, there's you have to shoot yourself up. That's terrifying. You get over that. There's one medication called Manipur which really staying. Yeah. It, but you know, what it's it's thirty seconds of pain than that. You know, dissipates that's fine. And then the actual retrieval, I twenty seven follicles. What I didn't know, you know, the process itself, they put you under like light anesthesia you wake up. You're like you're done. Like oh. That was easy. Yeah. But the healing process, depending on how many follicles, you pulled out really determines how long your recovery is going to be I for example, had twenty seven follicles only seventeen viable eggs. And then you know, that number starts to dwindle down do all the testing and whatnot. So, you know, they you don't know is that your. Your ovary has to be punctured like they take noodle vaginal. They puncture through your ovary to get your to your uterus is where your local 'cause they prevented they've given you growth hormones and prevented you from dropping any of your eggs. That's essentially what they're doing. They just wanna grow the eggs as all the eggs follicles as much as possible. Should they take a needle they puncture through? Both your ovaries to get your uterus to pull up one egg. They have to repeat this process for every follicle. You have I didn't twenty-seven follicles. They have to puncture your, you know, your ovaries uterus multiple times. Sorry, that's my dog. I love the dog in here today. Right. Yeah. So maybe that's why my recovery was easier because I only had fourteen follicles. And then we got twelve eggs. But then only nine were good. That's great. Yeah. But only nine not fertilized, just eggs not embryos. So I don't even know one show after until I might not fertilize them for five years. So I don't know that any of those nine once fertilized are going to be good genetically tested like I'm brianna that number certainly doing those down they want. They don't want to get your hopes up by saying twenty-seven like you don't know. Right until you go through the process. So how many after the seventeen how many embryos do you have seven? Okay. So see so from seventeen to seven and I only have two quite the drop. Yeah. And because we're not fertilizing them yet. I'm actually going to do a second round. Okay. This summer. Great. Because for me. It was so easy. It was painless. And I just felt like one another. Nine chance isn't good enough? And like, I would rather hopefully get nine more and have like a one in eighteen chance. Yeah. Because I mean, also, I don't want just one kid. But who knows I don't know what age I'm going to be one. I'm going to have kids if I'm even going to have them. This is like a strict backup plan for single divorce. Sheena? I mean, it's a great plan B even for someone who is Mary because I don't know what I'm going to have the first child I feel like it's going to be fairly soon. But if all things go if things go, well like who would have thought that I wanted to and now we have this backup plan. But by then it'll be my late thirties. And you know, it's extremely hard to conceive. So these are only really smart backup plans in place. And I don't feel like I feel like a lot of women. Don't talk about it. And they don't think about it. Yeah. Not at all. I was going through this. There were so many people who were like, I didn't even know freezing. Only eggs was an option like everyone thinks that it's only embryos and I'm like well. No. And I don't have a dude. Vert alive. Yeah. No. So it was something that I wanted to do a few years ago when I was still married. I was going to freeze embryos like thank God, we didn't. I mean, there's some hefty legal paperwork. If you divorce who gets the eggs so few forgotten. I had a huge battle with her ex over their embryos because he still wanted to he wanted to make a child after they were divorced with their frozen embryos. It's great. You imagine can't do it. He wasn't. He didn't succeed. I think the I think they said, no, I think they he tried to fight and say that they were legally his they were like not if she doesn't want. No. Yeah. But I mean, what if what happens if the mother passes way, hey, you know, the fathers left with all these embryos. I mean, you you really it's a lot of paperwork. I know I just with mine. I just said if anything God forbid were to happen to me, my mom or sister can make the decision and I get one. Yeah. Janet, Janet Yellen. Eg I tip eggos there for a lot of the. Process. You were so much more brave. I went to one of her. I went to acupuncture, and a few of those appointments, but I went to one where she actually was getting shots and the great I'm here for moral support. And she's like fine like not flinching at all. And I'm watching the needles and I'm like, oh my God. I'm going to faint. I was like I'm going to faint. Yeah. At I stole the thunder. I was like I like, I know you're being brave and great right now you to hold a lot, and I'm gonna like I need moral support here. It's just like the needles like nothing bothered me. Like the worst thing was the burn off to the Manipur. But I had so many women reaching out to me. I never check my like ninety nine plus requests on Instagram. But during this process, I started to because there were so many women who reached out with like tips for me or questions and whatnot. And this one woman she sent me a link to Amazon it's just like these little ice packs. She goes this. She goes immediately after the Manipur put it on. It'll take the burn away. And it was just like those little things was so helpful that then I was like putting out there on Instagram and telling women like, okay, you know. After this like do this. And I saw I think you were doing the shots wrong. Right. Where you're not switching sides. Well, listen, I went to the I went to the crash course. And I thought it was literally you can only go under your belly button. I thought it was very specific as to where the injections have to go. So yeah, I we kept. Yeah. We messed up the same spunk. Yeah. You can totally move things around. Yeah. Throughout your entire belly. So that is something I did not know I also went in every day. I had to do the loop Rowan at home in the morning and at night on my own. But then I was fortunate enough that my schedule was open for those like eleven days. I went in every morning at eleven AM and they did the shots for me. Because I'm like, I was signed giving them to myself with the mixing of it terrified me. I'm like what if it's not enough or what if I scored it out? And then what I waited chemistry. Yeah. Literally. And you know, those mixing needles are so thick because it's liquid and one of the nurses was telling me that they had a patient that didn't know you're supposed to switch up. Needle no. This thick needle. We're talking like bigger than. Yeah. Like four inches long. It's again, guys. Oh my God. No. When I saw those at first when I opened the most like, oh my God. I'm definitely going to the doctor and having them do these ones. And then they're like, no you switch the needle make thank God. Because I'm like how into this have to go here. Fine. So scary. Puncture your uterus. Like, yeah. And chemistry was not my strong suit in high school. It was like the only class. I didn't get an an so I was like I'm not trying to be a chemist and mixing this out. If I have the opportunity to come in every day like if I had to travel or something, and I couldn't I was trained to do it on my own. Yeah. But it was so nice to just be able to go in and lay there and have them. Do it for me. Oh, it's the best. If you're if you're conveniently located nurse come to the house once for like the trigger shots because they're like don't do it wrong. If you do it wrong. Yeah. Adult fucked. My God just send a nurse nurse came over. She did it. I was like, oh, we could have done that. And it costs us three hundred dollars. So for like three minute. Yeah. I recommend that. Yeah. But when it's the super important color shot. I was like what it's worth it because yes, I wanna make sure this is done, right. Otherwise, the weeks of leading up to this or just a ways. Yeah. And for me I've been on birth control for like twenty years. So my age levels were point two eight like basically non-existent especially for much you wait two months before you took the blood test. Went after being off the pill completely. I had to keep redoing. Oh, so I stopped taking birth control in like November. But then I couldn't even start doing the shots until like mid-january. Wow. Because I had to get my levels. Right. And then finally when like my age was here, my estrogen was too high. And then it was just like you had to take the pill to lower your estrin. Yeah. It's it's a fine balance. But, you know, thank God for science. Yeah. Totally things that can be figured out. Yeah. So I'm still on prenatal every day you Beck. When all D H D H E A. I'm still taking those every day. Just because I'm hoping that when I go through the second round, you'll have like all be better at the levels because like I'm currently again on birth control. Because I'm I'm single and it's smart. So, but they told me they're like just stay on all the medication because I'm hoping that this next time. It's not going to be. I mean, it was fifty days. I'm a Stoner. I smoke weed almost every night. But it was fifty as I didn't smoke weed and drink hard liquor like and for my lifestyle and traveling TV. I mean, yeah, it wasn't easy. But knowing that I was able to do that. I didn't have withdrawals. I wasn't craving it. I'm like, okay. I'm not a dictated. It was just a habit that every day. I'm like, oh, I've anxiety. So I'm going to smoke weed. I can't believe I'm gonna smoke weed. But then when that was taken from me, and I couldn't use that as a crutch anymore. Mike, we actually don't need it. So it was such an amazing experience for I mean, obviously Clegg's, but yeah. But it was just knowing that like, I'm totally okay. Without any alternates substance. Yeah. In my mind, I think you need the acupuncture, though, I don't know if they would have survived those days without the acupuncture. That was amazing. Did you do that? Didn't I didn't have enough time to do it. But it really helps with the taking away the pressure because you know, you're growing, you're the follicles that are sitting in your uterus to an abnormal size like usually you drop one Ed, but you're realizing all of them to obstruct them. So yeah, it's it's it's quite a natural in its weird feeling but I hear acupuncture, definitely, it was amazing. I'm actually going to start going for my hand because I've like early stage carpal tunnel right now. Yeah. I think that hurts called tax thumb whatever should often has right? Yeah. I know. So now, I'm like, oh, my it's just it's difficult. But I'm like maybe I should do acupuncture on it because I think I think it will. Yeah. And just to clarify, what age levels it. It tells you how fertile you are yet blood test, and essentially like the the the sweet spot that you want your age level is anywhere from like one point five to three that is when I believe the sweet spot anything more than that just means you're producing ten follicles. And but for some. It's not you're not you can't do anything with those eggs. I had a friend who had like an age level of like seven or ten something astronomical. She wasn't able to get pregnant. So there's it's it's yeah. There's weeds spot to stay. Yeah. I always felt like there was always something in the back of my mind since I was little that. I would have trouble having kids, and then finding out that my age levels were so low. I was like I just I knew it. So I was like I know making the right decision by doing this. I'm going to do it again, which was highly recommended by Dr Gedir, we only got nine, but it was crazy because I also did Hollywood medium. It was flop sounds before years aired and he'd say the same thing. One of the things he told me was he sees me as a mother in the future, but from an unconventional way. And I was like do you mean like adoption or like in vitro, and he was like y'all like an investiture like something like that? And I'm like, that's crazy. 'cause for two years I've been thinking about freezing, my eggs, and I haven't done it. He's like you need to do that. So that total impact was crazy. We've filmed that in September. And then in November I was just like free zone. Two months. It was on my mind. I'm like, I need to do it. Tyler Henry told me to do it. And so I did. And now, I'm gonna do it again, man, I feel like Tyler and Dr Qadeer should should Lee. Great together that for me. An I totally like believe in mediums I've had several readings in the past. So it was such an insane experience for me like not only did my grandma come through all three of my uncles. Migrate aunt's. Like, it was just one person after another. I go full family reunion. It was insane. In the things he told me, no one could. No, they're not Google. There were things I didn't even know about my family that after my mom validated. And I like this is insane. So after you did it were you less skeptical and like more open to this. I mean, certainly open. I just wish there was. I've had a couple of people close to me pass away. I just didn't feel it was my place to to bring them on the show. But there was really no one that recently passed family members that I that I want to reach out to that as close to. So I felt like I really missed out on on that opportunity. But I felt like there's a lot of things he he nailed right on the head. Yeah. I know I really do think that he has the touch. He he's got something really special and Odelay has a book out in just reading a couple of chapters from his book. I was like, wow, he's had this. He's had this talent for for awhile. Since you hit threes knitting. It really is fastened. Yeah. He's still so young too. I know he's twenty two. And he's. Yeah. Raise Astor, we're trying to to get him in here. Oh, our graduates just haven't been matching up. But it I mean it'll happen. I just went. Well, so fun. Yeah. But I'm like, wait. So who else is going to be on the podcast with us here like? But I just I'm so intrigued to see how when we do a podcast together. How that goes because it's like I'll be interviewing him, but people are going to be trying to come through to like L next. So that'll be great one. Oh, for sure to I kind of feel bad for him that he has this like gift, can you? I mean, it just seems like it your head will be crowded all time you'd have like you have to train yourself like how I wonder if he can he can I think now I mean, he's had this. He was a kid. So I feel like now he knows the way to like work with quiet, his brain. Yeah. Think so like meditation and things like that. Like, I'm sure he has the right tools to quiet the voices when he needs them. I wonder if when he's in crowds or like out in public, and there's a lot of people around then all of these like on what women want. Yes. Like, all the voice. I wonder if that's what is it probably started out that way, and he had a figure out a way to like filter through and like to just like focus on honing on one voice, their spirit, or whatever. But it was crazy on her episode. Like, he said something about he doesn't know who is reading before. But she's on a marvel show the gift you on FOX and do something Marvin. Yeah. And she was well and then talked about her and her husband working on a project together. And just like, we we actually are like it was just so many little things that it's like, I mean, I didn't know that like, obviously, I know you're on the gift ahead. But he didn't know he was reading her. And then he's like seeing didn't like know about the coin. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. But it was such a great experience. And I was so happy to see you on it too. But you're reading was different because you just asked about your personal life. Yeah. I didn't really have anyone that you know, I wanted to reach out to so. Yeah. But are you glad you did it? I I'm glad you know. I'm open to I'm open to try anything once. Yeah. Definitely. So okay. I want to talk about your blog. Yes. Yes. What the Chung? Okay. So how long have you been doing that? It was established in two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen. Okay. And it just kind of came about when I was in between acting jobs, and I just needed a creative outlet. And so I just decided to to start this blog, and it really started off as like more lifestyle. More like, a picture diary of the places that I've traveled to places that I like to eat or shop. But now, it's it's it's certainly more, hyper focused on fashion, and beauty and travel, and you have a new shoe line do forty two gold with Chinese laundry. Yes, we were both at the fun for the I s I have the tan booties in. I'm obsessed with the out you, they're so cute. The shoes you have on right now tea's like, wait. Let me. Yeah. The mules. They're the overcome. Do. Those are cute really q-. My mom. Love those. But we just we had a design meeting this morning. So I, you know, it's I I signed on for forty two gold to help launch the line. And now, I'm getting more involved with with the design sober going to be doing a Cup so collection. Is that something that you would always wanted to do like a line of some sort of product. You know, I've always been quite hesitant to do my own line. I just didn't feel like I was ready, but I've always had a shoe obsession. Yeah. Like always had a shoe obsession. But there's this great designer Sheena, coincidentally, no way, she's an amazing designer, and she's kind of been like holding my hand through this whole process and has been really supportive. Yeah. They have a great team their production team, actually, Elizabeth. And you know, it's it's it's I feel comfortable there. And I really feel like, you know, some of the ideas that I'm throwing on the Waller sticking. We'll see what happens, and it's it's a little less pressure too. When you're doing like a collaborative thing with a company that is established. Exactly, do you have your own line within that. It's not life death not gonna make it or break. It exactly fun that I'm enjoying and he knew it kind of fits into the schedule. Yeah. So do you have some new styles that are going to be coming out soon? Is it like seasonal? Yes. There's some new shows that we have coming out for the fall, but we're collaborating on a cop so collection for fall winter and holiday fun. Yeah. And are you just gonna stick to shoes or you're gonna do like excessive as close as well, just shoes? I definitely don't want to overreach and donate. You know, spread myself out too thin. Yeah. See how this goes. But it requires a lot of planning and a lot of energy, and I feel like that's all they have. Yeah. Available because I go to Vancouver to shoot a movie just came back from Dubai like, it's it's it requires a lot of traveling. And I feel like I you know, I wanna start a family. Yeah. Where's your favorite place, you've traveled because you've been all over the world. I mean, I just came back from Tokyo. I mean, I love Asia top of my bucket list. It's amazing. You know, I'm my family's from Korea. I love soul. My soul is in Seoul. But I just came back from Japan, and I was blown away. There's just these, you know, Kyoto is one of my favorite cities in Japan. You have to go there. There is a cute little city called Nahra Natta, which is like an hour from Kyoto. And that's where all the deer are you? They're just like Rome roaming, around, and and you know, they're kind of like the prized animal from that region because of the Shinto God that was believed to right into town on a deer. So they're kind of sacred there. It's just fascinating, you know. And it's no longer, you know, like the movie where no one speaks English like I feel like there's a a lot of apps where it can. Teach you Japanese phrases like on the spot in terms of communicating. It's not that difficult. But it's just it's kind of amazing like the world that your legs zapped into. Yeah. That's great. But yeah. Literally like next on my bucket to Jamaica's also up there for me. I've always wanted to go ever since I saw Katherine Heigl and my father the hero. And it just came on recently. Like last week. I was watching that movie. And I was like wait Tokyo was my next to my buckle. That's what I was like put Jamaica was there before. So those definitely quickly. I want to do both. And I wanna go back. We were just in Australia. New Zealand wonderful. So yeah. But it felt like we were there. I mean, we were there like eight and ten days with trend as will travel for worker pleasure. Both. It was one day of work and seven days of fun. That's amazing. Yeah. Chicken melbourne. No. So that's what I have family who lives there. So that's why I want to go back and go to Melbourne the Gold Coast, and then go to the South Island of New Zealand because he only went to Auckland. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Easing. Yeah. But it was thing. We've had a lot of trips this year. I'm so excited have nothing on my calendar for a little while. I know. Yeah. All right. Well, anything else you want to add that I maybe didn't ask you wanna drop. No. That's it. I thought you know, we feel like we covered all the bases. Tell where they can find you. Yes. So I what do I start? My blog is is what the Chung dot com. I'm on Instagram. Jamie J Chung and you can catch our second season of the gifted on FOX TV dot com or the app, and yeah, amazing. Well, congrats all of your set you guys. I look forward to seeing your little babies sink you. Yeah. Pushing it for a little. I'm sure it will be before me. Thanks for being here. You so much you guys. All right buying thanks for listening to shenanigans. Download new episodes every Tuesday, it's scribe on the podcast one app at podcast one dot com or at apple podcasts. And don't forget to rate and review the show on apple podcasts looking girl with me. We'll get into this make me get over you. I'm gonna make you want it. Want to get it? In the club. Little can't get enough of the amazing race, then checkout now what with just graph on podcast one hosts meat is that get all the details about this season as the former winner calls up players that get eliminated each week for some juicy. Many interviews published more on amazing rings than we did on big brother. 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#901: Bad Cops Are Expensive

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#901: Bad Cops Are Expensive

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Samuel Adams since nineteen Eighty-four brewing. Boston lager for over a month. Using only one hundred percent, heirloom hops, glorious inefficiency in every sip. The Boston beer company. Boston mass savor the flavor responsibly. Tony Miranda is the kind of alise officer who makes you want to follow the rules more because you just don't want it to support him not so much because you're scared of him physically. I'm only like five six and a half five seven out of their kademi. I was hundred forty pounds wet. So I was challenged on almost every stop every arrest, and they're like okay of take me to jail. I like to see you do it. So Tony says he really had to learn how to use his wits, and he pretty quickly made any for himself about twenty years into his career. Tony caught the attention of a nearby police department. They wanted him to be the new police chief in Irwindale, California, just east of LA. It's like a well kept secret. There's only fourteen in a residence in a lot of them are second and third generation Irwindale LIAM's. They've just been there for ever apparently people who moved to Irwin. Dale rarely leave. It's this town where everyone seems to know each other, and it has lots of perks for a town. That's is a modern rec center. Really nice parks their own little library, and they're able to provide medical and and benefits for the resident. Meaning like, if you're a resident of Irwindale the city gives you health insurance, it's not comprehensive, but it's something that's like a premier little city too. So there's a lot of civic pride in that little community. So lots of pros to becoming the police chief in Irwindale with one big caveat. The city was known for the police department because it garnered the most news I'm talking front page. News news at six news at five news, eight eleven and all negative. We're talking about some serious ugly heinous crimes like one officer had been accused of sexually assaulting a woman during an early morning traffic. Stop another accused of embezzlement. Point. And there was a third officer was under investigation for having sex with minors. So I'm not even talking dark-clouded cast a black cloud over the whole community. All of these scandals weren't just taking an emotional toll on this tightknit little town. They were taking a financial toll. These scandals cost Irwindale millions of dollars in legal fees. And it wasn't just the city footing. The Bill that is what turns this from the police reform story that you usually hear what about protests and activists into an entirely different version. We had never heard before. Hello and welcome to planet money. I'm Karen Duffin. And I'm Sarah Gonzalez today on the show. Tony Miranda goes to Irwindale he tries to fix the police department, and he has a powerful ally at his back this entire industry that puts a price tag on police behavior, a sort of shadow regulator with the power to change police departments insurance. This is the story of what happens when he police department can no longer afford. It's bad behavior. Support for planet money and the following message. Come from American Express, you've got big ideas for your business but figuring out how to make them happen can be a real challenge. Well, the answer may be as simple as American Express financing solutions. They have over four thousand specialists who can help find the right solution for your business chat with them today to see if you're eligible, so you can get your plans up and running the powerful backing of American Express don't do business without it terms apply. Learn more at American Express dot com slash business. How do we perceive our experience as humans who are we today? And who could we be tomorrow and guy Roz on the radio? Our we go on a journey through the big ideas that animate our world each week. It's the Ted radio hour from NPR. Tony Miranda never thought that it would be easy to clean up the Irwindale police department, but as he walks into the building on his first. Day. He starts to really understand what he's in for pitcher lowlights. A building was built in about nineteen eighty five. Lot of the walls are cinderblock. They're all dark gray. And there's no art posters or anything on the walls. My this is really sad. It's depressing in here. There are a lot of basic things that most police departments should have like there are these things called MD tease there these fancy computer screen type things that police have in their cars to track nine one one calls tells them where to go what they're responding to Antonis asking his guys why are there only a few of these and a bunch of them broken. And I said, well, if you're not using an MBA T, how'd you get to calls and one of the patrolman's holds up his palm? And he says like this chief, and I look at his palm going that's unacceptable. And so I could see where he had gone to a call scratch it all gone to a call and scratch it out. He's writing the calls on his palm of his hand was his ink pen. He's like. Okay. We are really starting from the bottom here. And if we have any hope of fixing this this team will have to band together and those really bad officers the ones wrapped up in the expensive lawsuits. They had either been fired or were on leave while they were being investigated. But if Tony wants to prevent any new problems, he needs to fix the culture administration and the officers just could not get along. So there was a lot of internal affairs investigations. There were thirty employees and fourteen internal affairs investigations. And these are not just people in the community complaining about that cops these were cops complaining against other cops and administrators complaining against cops. It will just unreal. Have never experienced anything. Like it. Tony quickly realizes that the same thing that makes this small town. Great is also what has made it such a hard place to change everyone knows each other. So when there's a fight in the police department the cop might just. Call his uncle on the city council, the fights, there are entrenched and their personal almost tribal. So Tony thinks we need some new blood. He calls his leadership team together and tells them I'm hiring a new number two. And it's not gonna be any of you. It was really quiet, and and once Arden stand up and says, you know, what chief the police officers associations not going to stand for that. They're going to call for AM voter no-confidence on me. Yeah. The new guy right off the bat. Basically Hayes city council fire this guy. So Tony is standing there at home. If his five foot six self looking straight at a mutiny, and this may have been where the story ended, but Tony had more than his wits. This time. He knows change is coming whether they like it or not because of their insurance authority in some situations. Insurers have ill out of power over. Police department, right? Most small or mid size. Police departments have some kind of insurance in part because police departments get sued all the time for all kinds of things justified or not and insurance helps cover the risk big cities like Los Angeles. They get enough taxpayer money that they can basically self insure like set aside some money for a rainy day or a lawsuit. But smaller cities like our when Dale they actually buy insurance through either a private insurer or something called a municipal risk pool. A municipal risk pool is kind of like a family car insurance plan or window is on the same insurance plan as a bunch of other police departments in California. And if one of those police departments gets in a wreck everyone's premium can go up they call them contributions. And the worst part about this plan is that everyone knows it's your fault. Or when Dale you're the bad teenage driver in this family. So they need to either get a handle on things or Ken. Missile their policy ills that was that was it there the two options. Yes, or you can you need to shop for another one and you'll be paying some premium rates. That's if you can even find another insurer willing to take you on. If you can't you might lose your police department altogether because one incident could raise taxes or even bankrupt, a small town one wrongful conviction when use of excess force and Tony wanted to make sure his rank and file understood the stakes were that high. So he brings them all together and says, let me tell you guys a little story about Maywood, California. You know may would about twenty miles west of us there police department also had a lot of problems and our risk pool. Our family insurance plan got tired of footing the Bill. I may would got a warning. They were told he needed to fix it. They didn't. And they lost their insurance. They can no longer be police officer because of the Mont of exposure, they have the whole police department shut down the city of Maywood couldn't bear the risk of having police without the insurance authority, and Tony tells his officers I was there at the end the day, they shut down. I remember it just before midnight all of the Maywood police officers lineup in the parking lot dressed in their finest. So there's dander some are, you know, already twenty eight twenty five years on and they're about to lose their career and their jobs, and they know this and it's like being in a funeral. Everybody's crying in the audience, and these grown men are standing there weeping one by one each officers steps forward picks up the police radio. And what the chief does have them do one. Last radio transmission saying that they're going out of service. When Charlie go ahead. These are recordings of those final transmissions. The pricing ten seven and the watch it's been an honor. And it's been a privilege. When Charlie and and they had to do a final salute. And then he takes her badge and takes their. Put their portable radio in a box. The last one to go is the police chief he salutes. And then he signs off for the last time. May would cut he police department. This will be our last transmission, they would police will now be ten seven and watch. God bless all of you. So I shared that story with them. And I said I've seen bigger stronger men than you all in this room, broken down in tears, don't think for a minute that it will not happen. I've seen it happen. Tony says this is the moment after he told that story that he started to notice a shift at the Irwindale police department. This was real this was an exterior threat that could close Irwindale police department down. This was real or one thousand share had made it very clear or window PD had to follow a performance improvement plan. They had faith things to fix and eighteen months to fix them. The clock was ticking. Support for NPR and the following message. Come from service now making the world of work work better for people. They're cloud based platform and solutions delivered digital workflows. That create great experiences for employees and unlock productivity for your whole company service now digitises the work your people have to do. So they can do the work. They want to do using technology to make people more productive and engaged. More at service now dot com. I'm Bob boiling creator of the tiny concert series. We've just launched the twenty nineteen tiny desk. Contest. It's our search for the next great undiscovered artist. The winner gets to play a tiny desk concert. It'll change your life. Find out more at NPR dot org slash tiny desk. Contest. Quick note. I did reach out Irwindale insure and other people in town and many of them were willing to talk. But said that a city official had told them not to speak with us. However, we verified the story with some folks who just didn't want to be recorded and with public documents. Okay. Back to the story for a long time. A lot of police departments weren't allowed to buy insurance. People thought it would create moral hazard. Basically, if you're risky behavior is covered by someone else. You might do more of it. But then in the nineteen sixties there were a few supreme court rulings that gave police more rules. Anything you do say cannon will be used against you in a quarter of all you have the right? That's right. Miranda rights shutout law and order there. And all of this made it much easier to sue the police, so moral hazard, damned smaller. Police departments felt like they had to get insurance. There's a whole big powerful well-financed industry that is trying to influence police behavior. This is John Rappaport. He's a law professor at the university of Chicago. And he wrote one of the first papers looking at the influence of insurance on police in the mix of a discussion that is often understandably heated and emotional insures look at police departments through the cold hard lens of an actuary. Does this police behavior create risk if yes, let's reduce it. It's a business relationship. They're able to say, hey, we're we're actually not. Protesters or activists were not telling you, you're bad. We're just telling you that your numbers are worse than they were last year. And we want to bring them back down to where they were the goal of these insurers is not just to win lawsuits. It's to be so above board that nobody even brings a lawsuit. So often ensures issue guidelines that are more strict than the law takes strip searches after the supreme court said police can strip search pretty much anyone for any arrest. This one insurance was like, yeah, we're going to give our police some restrictions in the added things like you should have someone of the same gender conduct. This trip surge, and you should do it in a sanitary setting, and those are things that actually aren't in the supreme court's opinion. But at the same time, I think the the insure was, you know, using common sense to think how would this look to jury, and if you really wanna make sure people are behaving. The way they should sometimes you gotta be proactive one insurer said that they send an insurance Representative to hang out at cop bars and just listen to gossip I mean, if they do hear anything alarming they reported back to the insurance like vying for that job. I'll go, you know, if you really need me to go drink in whatever town, I know and John says, look, they don't just leave cops out there, hoping they don't mess up. They also try to help them out in the most insurance way possible doing things like updating police manuals or giving them training. And if the department does get better there are rewards like lower premiums. So back in Irwindale Tony has his to do list. The eighth things that his family insurance plan has said he has to change in eighteen months, and Tony added a few things himself to help fix the culture. He calls all his people together. And he steps up to the whiteboard and says, all right? This is how we're gonna fix this. Or we're going to treat this like a plane crash. A plane just crashed Irwindale, you're all paramedics. Let's triage this. Let's start with the most essential equipment. Remember, those monitors the ones that tell cops where to go when they're responding to a nine one one call Irwindale fix them up and bought some more stuff to help reduce risk. You know, going on a nine one one call is pretty important that your sweaty pump doesn't turn the nine into a three or six. They fixed their patrol cars fixed. The cameras in their cars got workplace harassment training and more training. I started hitting him to communities policing courses author safety. But the main change was that Tony had to run almost everything. He did buy the insurance authority like if he wanted to discipline someone or fire someone he needed their permission. We met every I think it was every Wednesday at ten AM. Without? I mean, you clear your calendar. You're going to be there feel to have to run your things by insurance company. Well. It was not common practice as for sure. And to a certain degree. I felt second-guessed. But at the end of the day, it just adds more credibility because it wasn't just as outside chief sane. This is what we're gonna do. It's also our insurance company who could make us or break us. Tony says they didn't really overall his decisions. They just made him. Explain why he wanted something. And as long as it made sense, they were cool with it with her point at which you thought this might work. I think it was in year two actually in my second year on the fourth of July. It was Erwin deals independence day party and all the cops had to work. So Tony brought to grill made everyone tacos and somewhere in the middle of it. Tony took a picture and the day was over, and I went home, and I looked at that picture on my cellphone, and and looked at their faces, and they were all smiling and that and seen that anywhere now Irwindale. Is just one police department in one small town with a specific set of issues. If you step back though and ask whether insurance is ineffective way to improve police departments. Overall, Jon rappoport that law professor says sometimes the issues they care about most are the expensive ones things that my generate large payouts like excessive force, but the less legally expensive, the issue the less likely insurance is to address it because ensures aren't making moral judgments for them. Police reform is a business for Irwindale pressure from an insurance authority seems to have helped eighteen months after Tony showed up under that black cloud the insurance authority declared Irwindale new and improved. They could keep their coverage. They could stay a police department. And Tony says he doesn't think they could have done it without that performance improvement plan. Pip I have to say without that. The officers will continue to be aggressive. They continue to fight apps into the pip. I'm not sure if or when Dell would be here today, I'm really not sure I'm not sure Tony decided his work was done. And he handed off the department to a new chief? See, I'm handing you the keys to a Cadillac, please take care. These guys are good guys. And you're very lucky. You're lucky what were you driving? When you got there like nineteen seventy-two gremlin Pinto onto cylinders. It was bad. If you have a story idea Email us, we're planet money at NPR dot org. Today's show was produced by Nick fountain Bryant or stat edits our show, and Alex Goldmark is our supervising producer. He edited today show special. Thanks to keep you, see and KCRW. Also, Rachel Joyal wrote a great story about this issue for the Atlantic. Joanna schwartz. Who's also done some great research on this. And thanks to all the people who spoke with me on fat grounds. I'm Karen deafen. And I'm Sarah, thanks for listening.

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10 Trivia Questions on Totally Random Things

Trivia With Budds

14:51 min | 2 years ago

10 Trivia Questions on Totally Random Things

"It's ten totally random trivia questions about anything and everything and confidence round recorded at RT Rogers brewing in Sierra Madre, California. This is trivia with buds. Be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host. Ryan buds. Thanks for checking out my shell. If you like pop culture, if you like comic books movies television video games, you name it. I have done a trivia round on it as specific as the movie, cool runnings, and as broad as the periodic table. There is a little something for everybody on this show. So go back and check out the feed there's over four hundred other episodes for you to listen to if you like this one today's a great starting point. If you never listen to the show before because it's ten totally random questions recorded live at one of my southern California, trivia nights. I do this every Thursday at eight pm, it's called Artie Rogers brewing. It's a great little brewery in cozy Sierra Madre right along the mountains there, and it is run by the Rogers family, and my friend Ryan who I think is about a year older than me him and his mom and his dad and his brother and his brother's wife run this. Place and they run it. Really? Well, the older brother Jesse does lattes cool are around the brewery, and there's always some cool branding based on all the beers. So they have like a half in wise in and they have a very cool like L fish character. That is representing that beer and there's like a maiden that represents the bears. Very kind of medieval feeling game of thrones -i kind of deal and right down the street from there just a couple of towns over is the big renaissance fair every year in Irwindale, California. So I would love to see their beers on tap at that renaissance fair because it would match so well, so maybe that will be in the near future, but I've been hosting trivia at this place RT Rogers for a year this month. Actually this Thursday is exactly one year. So it's a it's a fun place. I think you'll catch some some of the fun atmosphere in this recording today's episode, and I forgot to record the answers to the questions. So I will be just giving you those answers after you listen to the live recording of the qu. Questions if you have a topic you want me to do on the show, you can always head over to patriot dot com slash trivia with buds and support this show. We have some brand new supporters. Let me open my Email here and give a big special. Thanks to sweet Abby cakes Abby cakes. I hope is a real name. But I bet it is more like a cake company run by someone Abby. So thank you, Abby for your generous donation. Welcome aboard the patriot page also had one just the other day. Let me try and find that one brand new patriot named Mona so shout out to Mona as well Mona. And sweet Abby cakes are on board, and you can get on board to and get all kinds of really cool stuff in terms of rewards. Now advocates at the five dollar level is going to pick a topic that we do on this show every single month. So the show will become her own. She can go. Hey buds. I want to do a round the game monopoly, and I'd have to do that. Or she could go, you know, what change my mind. Let's do Barbies in the eighties, and I go. All right. You must like toys and games. And she go, you know. What scratch all that stuff since I make cakes. I want you to do famous cake trivia, and there you have it. You can do that for five dollars or more with your generous donations also at the five dollar level. You're going to get a postcard for me every month for my cool collection of pop culture, postcards, that just says what's up and you'll have a nice little collectible postcard. You also get a thank you in the show notes to every episode and sometimes alive shout like I just gave those two ladies so go over to patriot dot com slash trivia with buds and see what's going on. And support the show if you dig it where to jump to those ten random questions from RT Rogers brewing on totally random topics right now. Here we go. As the last night confidence around ten random questions, higher answers regular who vise. Should want. What nineteen sixties hit plays over and over? Again, the orthodox in the film groundhog day number one. What is groundhog day never to? What was the name of Jesus or the two thousand eighteen team up to what was the name of Jay z Indiana's eighteen team album. Never cheated right down to tree and truly intrigue adventure plant here. RT Rogers ruing in Sierra Madre, California every Thursday eight to ten guys coming out. Remember, you can RSVP or my website to the events every week for voters point everybody team to do that. So the five hundred five owners planning to the RSVP tree dot com. Click on the event, you wanna go to enter your new website new flooring and easier and coming into nineteen never to Jay z dollars eighteen team up album. Number three. What season K inspired TV series stars characters named Henry Deavere so character as s after your maybe more than one character ain't never seen gaining spire TV series here. There's named Henry Deavere number three number three. Raise your hand. If you watch this show without giving him this couple real. And you guys talk about it for six hours number three. Never pepsi. See I'm one of the rare blades that likes Pepsi coke. Sometimes anybody else. Chinese. Zero. Very good. Number four. What does the H VHS? What what is the agent VHS and for the H VHS for them before? Guy straight from here. I go to host bingo, dive bar in Pomona. Call highbrow from ten thirty twelve thirty. Yeah. Oh, I got if even two of you came with the bait by number four. It's half drunk college. Kids in half other people who are like what is. Five detained be for president stage thousand nineteen made it two for president's day two thousand nineteen of her fine. I like people county their fingers that's fun to watch people are like what are they? Number five what is day for president h nineteen number five. Be thursdays. Ears monterey. Number five through this route. Right. All your answers from ten the highest ones the lowest if you're playing. Number six. What was the first product that the company BIC BIC made in nineteen fifteen or six I product if the company BIC made in nineteen fifty number six number six. Six I making nineteen fifty. Plus four questions lax. Holly. You're think you could play like a young walk is. You have. Nick Woodman is the CEO of adventure product number seven. Nick women is CEO of what had ventured product number seventy. What we talk about seven. Eventually, brian. It could be like a lucrative resent. It is not. Kyi. Kyi for number seven. Choose your venture books a real cheeky question. Here's what team in Chicago Bears Super Bowl twenty winning forty six. Eight. Superbowl winning forty six to ten. Two questions to your confidence around. Right on time. Here's the Super Bowl twenty. Nine. We got Ted close out strong. Number nine does the word cancerous that see a car? Oh, you cannabis mean pleasant sounding were eagle sounded number nine. Does the word canneries being pleasant sounding or evil reminding? Vocabulary Trudy and for you. Tonight is the word cameras pleasant sounding or even sounding. Podcast all podcast apps. Up every day playing along on your commute on your dog. Walk on your exercise. Trivia, check out the podcast last Bush the night number ten. How old is Kim Kardashian? We met you several times tonight has right now twenty nine hundred January how old is Kim Kardashian. That is the end of the round of your questions number ten how this Kardashian any repeats for this route. Power the answers in confidence in just a second. All right. Those are the questions recorded live over at RT Rogers. I hope he had fun listening to some banter and Tom foolery with the crew over there that was a crew about I want to say about forty players. It's a very small place. It's about the size of maybe like a garage and a half if you've ever been in a garage, it's like a garage and a half worth of people, and they were always always rowdy and having fun there. So I hope you had a good time listening to that. Here are the answers to the confidence wrong questions that closed out the night. Just last Thursday. Here's number one. What nineteen sixties hit plays over and over again on the alarm clock in the film groundhog day. That was of course, I got you babe by Sonny and share got you babe. Number two. What was the name of Jay z and beyond say two thousand eighteen team up album, some people call them the modern day, sunny and share no one does that the answer was everything is love. Everything is love number. Three would Stephen King inspired TV series stars characters named Henry Deavere? That was Castlerock that when made me furious when I watched season one. Thriller well done, but I need answers. I need answers Hulu number four. What does the H in VHS stand for it is home video home system? Believe is the full acronym. Home number five. What will the date be for president's day two thousand nineteen coming up in February. It's always the third Monday in February. So it'll be February eighteenth February eighteenth number six what was the first product that made a big famous the company BIC made in nineteen fifty. We're looking for the pen, the ballpoint pen the crystalline pen. I think it was called the crystal pin number seven Nick Woodman is the CEO of what adventure product is. Go pro gopro strap one of those to your helmet, and you just go out there and climbs stuff number eight. What team did this calbears beat it Super Bowl XX that's twenty and it was forty six to ten in that score. That was the New England Patriots. Speaking of the bears beating people did anyone see them not beat whoever they're playing the other. When that guy screwed up the kick. Oh, boy, that's the kind of football. I like to watch because it's like almost like wrestling. It's like sports entertainment when it goes that desperately wrong, dastardly ish. Number nine does the word cannabis mean pleasant sounding or evil sounding? It means pleasant sounding cannabis melody means like an ice little ditty number ten how old is Kim Kardashian. In October, Kim turned thirty eight years old thirty eight years old. Those are your answers to the confidence round questions you scored up to fifty five points. If you wrote down all your answers and rank them ten to one based on how confident you are in the answers had easy number one time. So if you wanna play along at home that is a fun way of doing the ranking process tens the highest ones lowest fill in all the numbers in between. How many did you get of fifty five if you wrote down your scores and your answers, let me know send me your scorecard or just send me a number. Always like hearing about that. And seeing what you like. And don't like about the show, you could drop me a line anytime. Ryan buds g mail dot com or you can go to the trivial buds dot com website. And click on contact you'll find the nicely contact form. And then I'll go right to my g mail as well. If you ever laid holiday party coming up for your company or your work or your networking thing or your fund raiser or your birthday party or your anniversary in two thousand nineteen think about having me deuce trivia, some comedy, some bingo, so music, whatever you need. I don't play music, but I can play music from my phone. So if you need that let me know, I don't really play anything I tried to play the cornet in fifth grade, and my mom saw how much cornet cost to buy. And she said, no, thanks. You could play the kazoo. And she literally handed me a kazoo. That's my nam. But yeah, check out tribute buds dot com for all your trivia needs brand new website coming very soon just took a bunch of promo pictures with my friends, Spencer coachee, and those pictures will start posting very soon. He's going to edit some for me, and I'll have new banners at the top of all the main pages on the website and a little bit of a re redesigned website as well to make it a little bit easier to find the. Vents and weekly question and things like that. Thank you guys so much for listening. Thanks for telling a friend. We'll see you tomorrow for more trivia with buds. Cheers.

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Vaughn Gittin Jr!

The Smoking Tire

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Vaughn Gittin Jr!

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Go to brio four life dot com. That's B r I o the number four life dot com and use code smoking. I got the cheapest price for you on the internet direct from them brio four life dot com and code smoking has got you covered. All right on this episode of the podcast, Mr. von getting June. Or just JR's? I call him von is one of the original like formula drift crew. He's been drifting for sixteen years. I met him all the way back in two thousand and seven we haven't gotten to hang out as much recently the dad now, but he's one of my favorite people to see press events or at the race track. He is like the most genuine person ever, and he's an incredible driver. You should see what this full can do with a car. He's out of his mind and great energy. Great people von junior on the small tar podcast. Can't get any more of them the others. Oh the. It's not a humble brag is just reality show. Yeah. No. It's very cool. What's happening? Von getting junior hanging out, man. Jay house live Zachary. Yup. It's a show. Here's for Long Beach drift formula, d yeah. Fucking how many years now? Six teen for me to six awesome to me is his sixteen. You got old. I did I was thinking about done for sixteen years. What have you done for sixteen years? Not much of anything. Let's see I've been making videos on YouTube since two thousand six thirteen years. That's pretty good. That's the longest thing. I think I've definitely yeah. I'm proud to be doing these half thirteen. That's the best. That's the oldest thing. I got on my life. Think the wildest thing about is there like it's still fun and still being challenged. Well, you hurled a car sideways at at high speed. I mean. Like, okay. That part of it. The good news is I if I can believe your Instagram and your overall demeanor every time, I meet you sliding car sideways. Very high speeds, still fun, very fun. One hundred percent, but is the the the drama the behind the scenes the business of the sport of formula drift still phone after sixteen years. There's no I don't get involved in drama. So I don't really believe there's so much drama or I don't know much about it or hear people might be the wrong word drivers. I just mean like, you know, the the fact that the the judging has a subjective element that that kind of drama, sure. It doesn't bother me. I've been doing that for sixteen years. I know what sport I'm doing. I know that they're human judges and in that there's human error, and frankly, our judges are really good. Well, they've been the same like judges for like log on. Yeah. But they're really on Jared been up there for six day one since the first day. Saw them. So jared. End is like dad at this point. He's oh Jonah. And he's so good, man. Jared all my demos, like it's a really hard job that he knows like, oh, he heaps all the fucking facts in there. And all the drivers names all the the history of every event. He's a really good aside from the facts, that's the easy part like this car. This fact, but like when the cars aren't going, how do you energize twenty thousand of us know, how keeling engage in fun. And like he does it. He kills it. Also, Mike Rancho hiding on the side. Yeah. Out of your your will your shot. Are media director. And he's he's an amazing dude and been with us for few years, and he's your suit sort of footnote officially signed. But not in a suit. It's so you don't have to wear sees. Well. Well, you know, fellow journalists. Yeah. Sneakers. Nice watch, and that's a suit. That's all. That's I was unaware of nine. No, you're in the uniform. Very well. You get your uniform is more Long Beach than L A, actually is it. Yeah. Yeah. Because you came from now. Why stand there, and you also it's it's really about the monster energy logo. Is that really what you long meet? How's life, man? Your dad, man. Life is good working, very hard. Yeah. It's things are kind of insane. I'm working on like fire myself from a bunch of different jobs, but I'm a dad that's kid up every morning and named son of the high greatest twins in eighties rock history. Gunnar nelson. No, no. You can't make Nelson fucking joke band called Nelson. No, can you hurt me image? Zach of Matthew and gun brothers with long hair. We'll have Google will have an image of this. And it's worth it's worth seeing because they are really quite breath. Certainly not who our share named f- actually my wife chosen named garner. And I was like gonna that sounds bad. Just what you're fucked. Now, look at these kids. If he had glorious hair like that. I would be the proudest ROY of rock. They are all gold. Oh. That photo up number one hit. What was the not yet? Oh, these guys were like actually member. I remember these dudes. How could you not? I don't remember which one is gonna look the same with the one with the boots. Very different personalities though. Yeah. That's that. There's that music. Can we we got here? Now, I can't. Oh, cool for you know. The audience all knows how the song goes. Capello? Judging by like, the skylight is open. It's probably like some soft rock a lot. So so ABBIE pick the name picked a name. And I was like I'm not going to come up with anything better garnered does sound like a racing drivers kid. Yeah. That's really a good name for it. Actually. It means. It's a Norwegian name and Abby Esa Norwegian in her. And it's g u n n. Yeah. That's how you probably would pronounce if Frederick Otto from Norway, but we pronounce it governor because we're American in it looks out sounds is. It sounds good in the south. That sounds good different. Yeah. We agreed. We weren't going to do three. Yeah. We agreed. That wasn't that wasn't happening. So a shock. Great traction everywhere or it's like the new Seagal movie. Super ran the dads out there. We'll we'll get this. You know, he's four months so he just started smiling. So like, my whole always not like a blob anymore. Plot was laugh, and like, I give them to giggle. So like my whole role right now aside from supporting my wife, and and and him to grow and be healthy. And and give my love and is to try to make him laugh because when I get him to laugh or giggling me, it's like the greatest joy known ever. So it's been pretty RAD. Cool. Good for you, man. And wait. So but you're now you're in season though. Right. Because Long Beach is the beginning of the season. So you got to go back and forth in North Carolina in between every week or with right now she here. Yeah. The house, and we we got Airbnb and in Long Beach, and yeah, he's going to be traveling to some rounds this year. But you know, I'm never out of season. You know, like, I don't do just FDI obviously, right after these only eight weekends a year, and I do about thirty plus of the rest of the weekends filled with demo driving and stuff just doing tra- four racing. Who's for you? How do you doing that been doing it for about three years? Now, it seems like I love oversteer inside and around. I'm not I don't know setting lifetimes. We're not good at a to like, it's more fun. Playful? Sure, if you added like jumps to that. I've been trying to get on a long time. Honestly. That would be the best. It started with Reese and Reese mill and brought it up in a drivers like in one of our summits one year, and I got super behind in. I'm like met with Reese, and like we like, and I talked to my engineer and he's. It in consulting, Robin, Gordon would make the shift into second stuff that comes out of those. But they're racing is industry content. Oh my gosh. You see the Texas crash. Yeah. Oh, the trucks are the best. Almost tow truck cra- for Robbie like came over like a tabletop and landed and then there's a truck and he's had to jam on the brakes coaching crossing slow a slow boat Robbie he is absolutely. Have you seen his kid? Kid is going to be like, he's just an unbelievable. The what he's done key posted a video yesterday of him in like a training him out to understand car control. He basically build him UT, and has is that it right there from wheel drive on the bottom watched that this video was seven years old at this time. Seven years old. He's got a front wheel drive UT. Wait. It's not done. So of course, Robbie built another crazy. It's pastors. Pro drive you so very wants to seven year old kid really don't watch Rask of controlling this thing. It is extremely impressive as learning front. Rear weight. Transferring spin the knows it's so g wants him full control. Oh, yeah. Here. Now, he's getting on the handbrake kind of situation. That's really dumb out. Bhandara love that. That's really he's doing the front wheel drive burnout drift. Yeah. With Castres in a big parking lot. Oh god. That's amazing. But probably the best ad ever. When did that happen? I mean, look what he does have a good time. Radd, seven years old and having that seven nothing that cool. I had like a yard car. John extremely grateful for. I gotta go kart when I was nine actually, and it changed. My completely changed my life. I had my ninth birthday. My dad brought me his go kart. I was the fucking happy ever. And then my mom was like put your coat on son. We're going to see cats the musical, and I had to walk away from my fifteen minute old go-cart, go see. I made them walk out of cats and take me back home the fucking this have you ever seen a Josh Kayla's kids? Well, she's like three and like mobs of really fat three like three years ago years ago, she probably seventy nine maybe she the viral dean, corvette jacquard video a hamburger because. Oh, good. No handed and stuff. Yeah. Every now. And then it pops up in like, you know, girls, I'm friends with like, oh my God. Look at this video, but still. I talked to Josh. And he said, she's great and doing karting, and yeah, it's awesome. She's going to be ridiculous. Yeah. For sure. Yes. Ultra four to that funny story. We're talking about Jamaica earlier. And so my wife, and I go to been going to Jamaica for vacation, we're quite a few years and Nitto actually called me in two thousand sixteen on vacation. And this was like the middle of January and king of the hammers is always the first week of February. And they asked their Mido was like, hey, do you have any interest in going race king of the hammers? I'm like go. What's that? And they're like, oh, you know desert row I've seen that yet loved to do that. So anyway, I how difficult it was. I had no idea. What was your windshield experience? No, I just give you the short short story, I show up to lake bed. King hammers on my helmet. Got my suit. They take me over show me the truck on my cool getting the truck I get in the truck Laurin. Healy hops in the truck with me who now learn he'll he's my teammate. We have the fun ever off road team. And Lauren is like the guy in that space. He's been doing it since it started. He's he's a bad ass. So anyway, we're in the truck, and you know, we're just chatting on the way to this waterfall. So we pull up to this waterfall, and it's literally this thing. And I was like I'm in the Trump, and I looked up and he's like go up that. Oh, the rookie joke. You got. What are we really doing here? He's like no out that. So he shows me how to get it in four low, and I just start scaling this flat faced wall. And this thing goes right up. And I'm like this is what they do. So anyway, I did a little practice in Iraq's. And and went and qualified and then the next day and my first race in the forty nine hundred class, which is two levels below like the top suspect Iraq. So it's like a it's like a buggy, right? Is that is that right there like a tube frame? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's me on my live from the last race. So what kind of motor is that thing have? So my Irish truck now has a four hundred twenty seven keep against for performance motor of shit, really. And makes seven hundred fifty horsepower. Oh nice. What was it between the unlimited like engine size and power? I knew you're close to them. Is it just the rest of the gear? Well, so this was what I did three years ago. Okay. That's how I got hooked. Gotcha. So went and learned my first race finished top ten I 'cause overdrive whatever finish hammers. But I just fell in love with the challenge. And I also fell in love with the drifting translated so well to the vehicle control in the vehicle placement and the feeling for traction through the rocks, and I I wanted more. So the next year I built a truck for the forty five hundred class, which is one level below unlimited. So the difference of that class is basically the rear suspension, you can only have fourteen inch shocks on the rear. So I can only get sixteen inches of travel. Whereas now in the unlimited class about twenty twenty six inches of travel in the rear and about twenty four in the front. So basically now I'm in the forty four hundred class to top level class digging hammers this year. Year finished seventh one hundred and twenty drivers I some and so just learning and progressing and. But it is just an insane. But are you are you doing other races in between or you just? Okay. King of the hammers begins guys in Sacramento qualified third for that race. And in that photo that you just saw I ended up on my lid on the first lap past two dudes. That's my teammate Lauren in front of me. So I made a joke. I was gaining on him. They hit hit me with the red turtle shell flipped me over. But it's lunatic. Yeah. It's just insane. These dudes are absolute maniacs on the track. Wheel. Does it get wheel-to-wheel like rubbing for not even refers lap. Lauren came from the back and just run my tire. Yeah. If back in that video, you would you'd see it, right? Angry. Kinda short course would be considered. So this so yes. So that's a cool thing ultra four is like so king of the hammers has a short course, gathered and all the rock, right? So it's like, it's everything. So this track. This was one of their short course races, which is cool because it's a stadium setting. But they also have rocks that they bring into it. There's a rock climb. There's some jumps. So these trucks are capable of all of it. Right. So good. So, you know, all the all of the different each rack has its own deal. Like next week. I'll be in Tennessee racing through the woods on the east coast super cool. Very cool. So yeah. So that you know between four video right there. That's you just mobbing policy rows news. Forty inch Nudo tires which by the way. Like, I hope I don't get one this weekend. But I haven't got a flat in these yet. That's awesome. It's ever. It's insane. All king of the hammers two hundred and fifty miles. I think it is all through all those rocks. No flats. That's all it's it's absolutely. Yeah. For sure, and you could be careless, you know, and obviously do that. But if you've lose a tire ten minutes. Yeah. And you you can get unlucky. I've seen guys at the top of one of the one of the waterfalls where you know, trucks, get stacked up and stuff and this guy him and his partner were like on a blanket with the different than like changing a ring gear in the dirt. You know, like you you don't want sand in that. They have to do it. You know, sometimes you just really break stuff and it's fixable, and you don't wanna stop and just call it a day. But people do some serious repairs finishing hammers is a huge accomplishment and everybody that goes there has been working all year to get their rig ready. So they get out there and break in the middle. They wanna fix it. Like these guys are committed to getting it done. I mean, I had a really bad crash last year at at king of the hammers actually co-driver broke his back. Shaw. Yeah. It was nuts. Yeah. I mean, it was seven miles in like is a brutal race. We're going in. He's calling notes we got in a little bit of dust. He's like, stay straight, stay straight. And I was driving sixty percent weren't even going crazy fast. And all of a sudden just ca seven. You're in traffic still pretty much wasn't real. It wasn't trying to separate your starts. Thirty thirty. Yup. And no. So when we were we're up in the front where we qualified really well. So we were we were third car around. And I was actually at the time finally my teammate in his dust, and we just hit a g out and the truck just fully compressed and went up over one role, and he hurt his back on the compression. And I waved on the TV camera to get him. It was my God. Did you have enough time in the air to think? Oh, this is gonna be really fucking about very kind of Talladega nights moment. Yeah. Just isn't good workout. That's now. I was it was nuts and shout to my man, Glenn. He's he was actually the guy who co drove with me the first time, I did hammers. And I got him to go again. And and then and that happened, but w fortunate, but it's one of those things like you get in the truck, you know, the the scenario we both do you know, that was the same classic Jessi combs runs in or level three and she rolled in qualifying last year Jesse runs to classes, usually she'll do forty four hundred. And then I think should do forty six sometimes which is. The more stock class out. You don't understand the numbers doesn't numbers the number. Doesn't mean anything anyone? Right. It's like if you want some CC's or anything or hard to like figure, it's not easy to go. Its pro to its pro one. It's Ellen p it's almost an e it's almost talk to him about that. I don't know where that numbers come from me, we need to make it more like the cool shit ever class. People can relate almost the coolest shit ever. And then stuff you can get for ninety nine nine a month. At a bass pro shop, right? Have you guys been at all or no? It's great. I would like to go I want to do a proper rig. I think you're gonna to take a shirt, that's what it is with these fucking sharp things. I just drove the Russian tank. I actually saw on your looks to me like a very we believe wildly flip over machine. It's the opposite of that is the way it moves. There's no travel, right? So if you watch most offer vehicles travel this thing just uses massive tires massive tires, but you can really really deflate the very very low. Okay. Drive on it. And also you can you can do a pretty aggressive angle. I mean, it might not get as as extreme as something that has you know, art crazy articulation, but like outside of the actual king of the hammers. Course, I have I would have a hard time believing this anything that would stop it. I drove it over a lot of things that would stop any and I drove with really into a frozen lake. Like ice into the ice. It floats all like sume climate control and stuff in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's comfy really sketchy hundred twenty grand. What's a motor? It's a forty four horsepower. Like a bulldozer engine God. But like a thousand. Yeah. Because it's geared crazy low. So here we're inside and you drive at tank style right with the levers and okay. So I'm Dr this shit through the fucking ice right here. Check out you're gonna break through. We're going to break through watch breakthrough in the frozen lake. This is Chris. Does it float? Yes. And that's when PU comes just like bobbing around and floats, and no, but then the wheels become paddle tires Neutra. Now, you're a boat. Shut. Yeah. You're a boot. And then I turned around and then I drove back out the fucking ice. So do these have a purpose other than just fun having fun. Having is number one. Okay. A hundred a hundred percent having number one number two would be like cold weather, search and rescue. Certainly, you know, people a fisherman or someone goes into the ice. This is the kind of thing you need to get them out. If you give anything fun having like hunting exploration, you had had fun having you can camp in the back of it. Like, it's not just the time cab yet the big box the size of a minivan. How far can it? Go get this. The range is twenty eight hundred miles shut up. Yeah. What's a really good fuel economy? Are you serious? Yeah. No one hundred six twenty thirty. Okay. And it's only. She's not a faster. That's a long. Thirties thirties, really fast in snow in stowed shorting. You know what? I mean. That's radman. Congrats. Gotta you gotta take a little trip up to Minnesota and have a go Minnesota. Formula Daego to Brainerd, oh, they should Brainard sucking nuts. But it's near there. But, you know, I've never travelled a place for fun avenue that was too far Minnesota's in like, I'll set, you know, if you show up in Minnesota, and this is the you'll have a great day. Especially in the winter. Because then you get the snow and ice is really what it. Yeah. Super fun to get Bill. Oh, yeah. What's the what's is there, a cultural difference there, you know, drifting and fun having out there? Here's it just it's the same just different. That's one cool thing about like, especially drifting in car culture, anywhere. You go in the world. Like, you meet you meet a car guy. Like, you're like minded can be broS immediately and got Bill just like takes it to another level like state. Stake? So sick over their interest. Noxious it's just it's just wild. But the event like grid life is is definitely like getting a bit of that that vibe, you know, because they're open, and they're letting a lot of people on track at the same time. But like I was on track with probably eighty drift cars at Rhodes Cogan, and like myself, Reggie Cosmo mad, Mike, and and a couple other guys were just shredding together in like a train in and out of other cars. And so like Frederick Fredericks like the guy there, right? He's from Norway. Norwegian like, this is home deal. So I get there. And and I'm just like Oklahoma follow Frederick like he knows he he knows what to do here on the track. And he's just like Papa goes, boom. Here we go and following him and like going through the whole time like you can do this. And so like, we keep going and like all of a sudden like there's all these corners had these black flags when we're going by and I'm still Berber burp. So anyway, turns out follow Fredericton for trial Frederick. Jim turns out you can't do that turns out that we were getting black-flagged like crazy. But it was so much chaos. You know, it's just like. It's just like, oh, yeah. We're doing this. Oh, yeah. Right. There's what we're here for this reason. I guess how do you manage that kind of? We were just talking about traffic management at a track. And now, you're like surprised drift passing people who may not see you coming, and they just they just move out of the way like you guys are the kings parade. Well, the thing that they should do is just do what they're doing if they change things. That's when it turns into a situation. Right. They're just moving clipping points for us at that point. And thread, you know, again, I'm going to fully bland us on Frederick all of the professional est. N me should have realized that this is a bad idea because I was in another country following the do that's done this for years who is like the headliner of this. I thought this is when in Rome, do you do? Yeah. So what in Rome follow a fucking Roman? But it wasn't. It certainly wasn't. I got black flag like thirty times at that event. Not even because of doing just doing things that like, for instance, there was this runoff, and it was like six hundred feet of run off into rocks. And there was a safety car six hundred feet off the track and I like blue. At one time black-flagged and then sound. Like where you had to bring mufflers to court, my Mustang, and it was getting hot. So like, we really melting. No, it was just getting warm. I couldn't even do a lot because we're holding all the exhaust in. I would go to the soundcheck guy. Sorry gap Bill. We would stuff a bunch of like. Brillo pads in the exhaust and go to the soundcheck after I got black flagged and go back out, and it would just blow out during the land. We fixed it. So that's how I got through the weekend. God RAV oh thousand brillo pe then. And then like it's not like so during that time that that race was Norway as it is. I don't know the details of why the sun stays out for so long. But it's like really far north. Yes. Six in the morning. I'm not a scientist or anything like that that that's the reason. But so far, I got it. So the sun was out till six in the morning, and I hope I see a laptop. I realized it was. It was it was in the morning, just you know, and this is after like going to the concert, and everybody's partying. But it's still super bright and like driving like nine, you know. So it's a you got to be prepared to hang manage your party ought to be experienced when we were in Iceland in July. I remember it was one in the morning, we'd work seventeen hours, and I didn't feel tired because it's still kind of light out in the more like the circadian rhythm. And all that stuff. It really really works and helps for that. Yeah. Me and MorningStar got bombed in Iceland at midnight. And it was it was just they like this morning. Tom MorningStar isn't cameraman who works with us. Scott and tons. Yeah. So you actually, this is your fucking first time on the show. It is. Oh, and I've never looked how about that. So how does one I'd want get into one von yet and junior get into drifting professionally sixteen plus years ago? Yeah. Story part of the student. So I've always been a cars my whole life. I we just mentioned four years old. My dad got a yard card and had a little paddle break. And I vividly remember like on weekends, and I go visit my dad I would destroy the tires on it by pulling the paddle break because I loved I go super fast be like three horsepower. Just yanked the Palo break. And then I was used to like get my dad to do donuts and burn outs and cool debt. And you know, he was a host Dr and oh, so you always had like cool things you get from the auction. Yeah. So he was Beltsville Maryland took. Yeah. And so he. You know? So he definitely got me into it. And so when I was eighteen he said, he was a wholesaler, so he would my friends up with cars. So we took a buddy of mine to go get a car his first car, and he ended up landing on to forty s x okay. So we bought it from this auction house, and I had to drive at home because I was the only one that could drive my dad's dealer tags. So when we left like, I kind of kicked the clutch and did a little irt on the way out like what I would consider a power slide. I. So, you know, I was just cool. That's cool. So anyway, he tried to do that like three days later coming out of our community college spun into a tree and. Still he bought the car for seven grand. And it was it was total actively and I was eighteen years old. I had a my own little detail in company or and so I bought it from him for thousand bucks, and it sat up front of my parents house for like a year and a half with like the front end crash until I could afford to buy the parts to to fix it. So anyway, I fix that car. And as I was looking for ways to hook it up. I came across the sport of drifting, right? Looking up to forty and Sylvia parts drifting videos, and I was like, whoa. Like, here's this sport. You know that you can year we're talking about this would have been. Two thousand two. Yeah. So I skipped one second. So just take that car and go playing industrial parks and parking lots of my friend and play around. And then as I started to want to do more to the car. That's when I started looking it up and realize that there is a sport of drifting. So this was around two thousand two when I realized there's a sport. I'd been playing around for a couple years junkyard tires, and me and the boys would just go play. Saul the sport. I was like, whoa. Like, bad ass cars chicks. Yes. Smoke can engine screaming. This is. Furious thing before festive furious, that's true. Oh would have been festive? Here's one before. Tokyo, two thousand was fast. Casual so right around that time he started having organized events in New Jersey DIGI trials, which is now club loose. So I I went to my first event. Now, never forget. This is a funny story on the way to that. I event so I had to forty SX had a green stripe down the side. And I had tires like up in my back and I'm just like driving two and a half hours jersey. And this FOX body Mustang pulls out X men. I got SR twenty and we saw a FOX pulls up next to me. And he's like hits hits his purge on me. And he's like he wants to go. So we're ruined on the freeway. And you know, we get on it a bit. And we get on it for about. I don't know. We're doing slightly over the speed limit for sure and outside the statute of limitations. And there is a enforcer of that statute of limitations on the side. Well, I am in front of him at this point. So I basically pull in front of him, and we're going up, and I kind of like scoot over in front of another car. Eighteen years ago. And so he gets pulled over nice, right? So I go to the drift van, and I show up the drift of anti fall in love with his drift event. And like, you know, the people the culture the challenge, and I just I enjoyed it. And that's why of my drift alliance brothers. Chris Forsberg, Ryan Turk. Tony angelo. And anyway at the end of that event, I leave and the Mustang is outside the gate like he was watching outside the fence. I go in because he got there. So late. I guess he didn't want to bay. I I like what's up? Hey, shaking his head. He got he got pop, but that's how and when I fell in love with drifting. And then I just was hooked. So at the time, I was in IT, and I was making good money and thousand dollars your day gig. Yeah. And so I just spent all my money on my car and went to as many events, I possibly could. Are you a ranch or are you having other? I built my first car in my garage on my back. I mean, I had some help would like wiring and things like that. But yeah, I certainly was I mean, I don't wrench much anymore certainly still capable. But I, you know, I, you know, now, it's turned into such a bigger thing. I need to focus my time things that only I can deal you get shit to do. So. Yeah. Fell in love with the sport. And and started going as many events, I could and started making name for myself, and and got invited out to the no p world finals. That Infinity on or messiah non Athenian. Oh, no, no wonder hill. So I came out I spent all my maximum, my credit cards shit my car out here. I got invited. They weren't paying for anything like your enough to come to this. And I was like, oh, California. I never been boy, I'm like, California. Like, this is my big opportunity. So max out my credit card. It was like it was like eighty five hundred bucks on my credit card that I paid off. It took a long time to pay experiences even for hard goods, right? Yeah. To shit. My cars. My first time I ever bought for real tires. I shit my car directly to cause to get a diff- put in it. And so anyway, I flew into California pick my car up. Drove it there. I came armed with proposals. I walked around all the vendors introduce myself and just started to go for it also. And and then anything come from the people you met at that event. Yes. Yeah. My first deal. Nice. Yup. Also, a really from those then. Did you compete there as well knows just exhibition, but I was there with like die Shahar was there before die spoke English, and it was like my first encounter with like a real Japanese guy that I've only seen on video. So like, I was so intrigued to talk to him, and we like communicated well like cavemen, and and it was like it was super a really cool thing for me. And then we're there with all the team, orange guys. And I love those cars, Subas, and egos. Right. Yeah. And they had the silly. They're like the sill truck thing. So yeah, it was it was really like cool cultural exchange for me and a great experience. And then a couple of weeks later form the D at announced they were launching drift series formula drift. So falcon had reached out. They liked what they saw and liked me. And and, you know, basically first year form of the two thousand four paint in my car falcon colors, and I got ten tires in event. I was trailer in my car, I was leaving work early with my my dad would help still sometimes. Yup. And I would open trailer my to forty two. To to the event and then two thousand five that's when we decided to bring some American muscle in drifting and two thousand seven I quit my job. And haven't looked back since it's awesome. Ten tires tires. Ten tires a weekend. All right. Yeah. You gotta you gotta manage them. There's a lot of guys. What do you do? Now we go through a set every two laps now. Yeah. Back then ten tires was no problem. Oh, prevent fifty fifty fifty dollars. Now, if you go to go to finals, it's about fifty tires, Dan Kluge when you went to that event. Nope. He 'cause I know it was just exhibition. Could you tell or sponsors, you talk to tell the you were, you know, in the mix with top five or top ten or any that? There was no serious. No, no, no. Yeah. There was it was there was no series. So there was no rank. It was like they could just see that. I was good, right? Like they were there. And they saw the guys that have been team orange and them, and I was all already know that the series was going to happen. And so they were scouting they were scouted. Perhaps. Yeah. I never really put that together. They were scouting. I mean, maybe I'm not trying to sure. Yeah. Muscle. They might. There's no doubt. Because everyone always asks. Well, how do you get into drifting? And like it's so different now. Like now trying to be a pro drift. It'd be like trying to be a major league baseball player. It's the same thing that people ask me how to fuck and make do videos and do this shit that I do it's like I could tell you how to do it sixteen years ago or fifteen years ago. I don't know about today. Right. It's just different. I was on that first wave, and and you know, I hustle hard. And when I want things like I work, I'll do whatever it takes to get them. And that's what I did. I mean, frankly, when I quit my job and no seven it was a big risk. And I was making a cushy job making great money. You know, twenty three years old or twenty in in two thousand seven was twenty seven at that time as making great money, and I was, but you know, what like this is my passion and worst case scenario quit his job. I saw my brain. I can go get another IT job. Said no five we're going to go star running Fords. Did you approach Ford with that? Or do they say, we're let's get in this drifting game. No involve yet. I didn't get involved relationship afford until two thousand seven. Oh. So did you go by Mustang? Yeah. So yeah. So the team at the time, you know, we basically, you know, we got one off the show where it's like five grand over showroom, and it was at Sema that year. Like, you know, it was it was something that they wanted. They really wanted to do. And I was all about trying to do something different. And then you thought we insane. And then two thousand five we won the USA verse Japan, and that was just like. American driver, American car. You know, I was gonna ask you you. You you made the jump to V8., and before you had desert twenty where most people running, you know, SR twenties and arby's and stuff coming up. And then you made the twitched a Mustang and everyone went oh, duh. Like, I don't think I was necessarily responsible for like deviate invasion by by any means. I think it was just a matter of time for people to realize that well, we can keep cramming all this boost into these little Motors or we can add some displacement, and oh, yeah. We're in America. And there's displacement everywhere like pled to full availability of ls engines, everything right? So now, I mean now it's getting nuts though. I mean, you look at formula drift like I have. Oh, sure. Moving back to turbos now as well. Right. Yeah. I mean nitrous enter Bill. Most of most of the cars out there if they're turbo-charged they have nitrous as well. Twin? Turbo. All right. So how much power does your your first Mustang drift car? Make it made six fifty seven hundred Osos still kind of a lot. Yeah. And now, you're what nine twelve hundred K. I drove it for the first time yesterday twelve hundred Long Beach. Yup. Did do a little bit. It was incredible. I like a little kid really jobs just rowing gears down the back straight of Long Beach. And it was the best thing ever, by the way. I I drove yesterday my first ever time actually driving you normal fucking idiots like me. Don't get to drive the Circe. Let you drive the search. But when I saw you that's what I was doing driving. Yeah. I was with Esa yet. I I don't do fucking ride alongs anymore. I'm not that was like why? I'm not that was like why you're riding in a car and not kidding me. Hour ride with you wanna you wanna fuck you take me for right Russia. Did that yesterday? That would have made sense. It would have we done at what's happened on Saturday. Dry Friday, Saturdays all business. One other time. Oh, I, but there's actually a potential jump drift corner that last corner on have you ever driven the complete court. Yeah. Okay. So we did demos at that. Entire course. I drifted the entire Long Beach grand prix like three years in a row so little corner that has a little curb a high curb on the inside onto the straightaway. Where you guys start your formula d runs got it that lasts Cornell straight guy. I I kinda. Yup. The NFL they're a little bit was like a drift car would fucking mob this corner air. Yes. Isn't that? Where the guy the guy in two ER one crash. So that was. Oil. In crash. Yeah. Mark royce. Yeah. That's bad. Gotta run for the first streetcar. That's z are one them. Yes. So we so yesterday is, you know, our guys working we won Irwindale. We had a really bad year last year. We want Irwindale vac we had a double podium, my teammate, Chelsea no fun. I I was I he got third dog girlfriend to that. And she had a great time. We were up in the sky box with Victor, and we were clapping from up there. We didn't get to see you afterwards. But say late congratulations on that you destroyed Iran. Yeah. It was it was a series battle with Frederick Osmo for that win. And it was a big a huge thing for us because we had a really rough year and. You know, not not being arrogant. But we've we have great years we work, really hard. And we come correct. And we had one of these years that was like literally my worst year ever on paper last year, but not because of lack of effort or lack of you know, plan it just should happen. Right. So anyway, it was a really great thing for my for my team and for myself and the guys work their ass off all off season dropped two hundred pounds out of the cars. And then we worked with Molla and row sheets and for performance to get our Motors ready to handle up to three hundred additional controllable horsepower nitrous. So what what is this fucking nutty motor that you that is that's a it's called R Y forty five. It's a it's basically, it's basically a lot of the nine NASCAR technology. Nascar's three fifty eight our car is four hundred and fifty five cubic inches. Do you have any regulation? On your line. Our look at that that that that's being redone. Do you have any regulations on your horsepower? So what are the regulations? I mean, I know there's a book, but the the short version of it how close or how far can you be from a production must sure unibody must remain the same. You can lightweight it. You can cut some things you can cut up to the shock towers. Okay. Okay. So cut to the shock towers, and we build basically crushed structures from shock towers out because we are throwing ourselves at walls. You hit them the car does get shorter. So it's easy to fix. Bumper budget proper budget. Yeah. And so basically unibody remains the same. You can move suspension pick up points up two inches and drive trains unlimited. That's the that's affected a lot of freedom. I mean, there's a tired of weight rule. So basically based on the width of your tire what it measures on formula drift tool defines, the weight that you have to be what's your what's your favorite? I mean, not to give away trade secrets, but like what's your favorite tire to wait kind of calm a fund zone for for drifter? Sure. Well for competition you want as much as possible we went to the three fifteen anti five five five G to this year at all four over orders. Front is fun history. Fifteen is I rear St. fifteen front is to seventy five. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't realize the stagger. Was that? We ran a ninety five last year. But we made some changes in front end geometry, which gave us more mechanical grip could run less tire. Cool less weight loss on sprung. Exactly. Yeah. So that's how we saved, you know, part of the other that we work with centerline. That fucking stat level of stagger. Yeah. Like, a road course, Mustang would be like a square. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, we do most of our steering with the rear tire. Like, the only time we really need the front tires is when we're initiating or transitioning. So like, you know, you'll see we've had setups where we're just on three wheels to haul track. I yeah. It's just because we're trying to drive that much grip in the car. So that's why you people how do you need twelve hundred horsepower for drifting, well because we're running six pounds of tire pressure and pulling wheelies trying to get as much grip as we possibly can to drive the car forward while the tires spinning. So it's the sport has gotten absolutely nuts. And you know, that's the best thing. Everybody running twelve hundred horsepower. Now pretty much fucked me we were we have been the lowest on we've with a four hundred fifty five cube against full blown racing motor that makes nine hundred fifty horsepower. At the flywheel. We have been the underpowered cars the last years. Very silly, right? Yes. Seems very silly. But it's real. And it's insane. What does Frederick's little force? Does he have to in that little hatchback? That's a four cylinder. Turbo with nitrous. It was I mean, it was like a it was like a group B engine. That's how. How you like every round? But. But but it works and that car. Very good. Your should your powertrain last the season. No problem. Yeah. Yeah. What displacement you need you need it some stress forcing air in it? Or, you know, you're using nitrous or some power outer to get there because we looked at like, big blocks. We looked at like pro stock Motors that make fifteen but they're like six seven hundred pounds. So if let's say, you you get a magician or something or you Reva magic lamp like if you could get two thousand horsepower. And then put that down with the advantage be that you can like outrun your opponent and through the corners and everywhere else. Like, you're just you create more distance while sliding, and then you're gone. Yeah. You would be able to put more grip in your car. Because basically, the limiter is your power, right? How much grip can you put in the car and still be sideways and still beat have angle and still get out to all the all the clips? So yes, you technically would be able to have more grip. If you had the tire to handle it or the mechanical grip from the chassis to handle it. You would be able to drive away from your opponent and interesting that's not the goal. But it's easiest way to win. If they can't hang with you. Right. You create a gap. And the judge is mine you take away the chase drivers proximity. So, but it's not that easy anymore. You know, it used to be that used to be our game a few years ago. We would just show up with the fastest cars. And you know, it would be really hard for people to keep up with us. Now, everybody is on that level. So you need to now win with precision and proximity and being more ballsy driver. How did you get used to not seeing thing? All search places on the track. But you don't that is seriously. The worst thing ever. I mean, even in all tra- four like it being blind is the worst. There is a level of muscle memory. So like for instance, you saw Irwindale right, right? So there's only a few spots that you're blind. So what you do is during practice and everything you find your marks that you can see when you're not blinded. So you might be looking not forward. Right. Like, all right. When that passes my pillar like I do this shit. Right. Just muscle memory. And like, you know, you just have this clock. Like, okay for daily come off, the Bank, and I go here. And I know that when I'm transitioning I'm going through smoke. So you just have this internal clock. Okay. I'm on throttle. Two seconds. Boom. Wow. I'm not thinking that. But you just trust your self conscious. You know what? I mean, you just trust that some sketchy shit. I agree. Think about it. When I just do it it works. So that's just what I try to do this to be imagine. Like the fucking f one drivers in the rain with that with the split not getting I. Sees him on board f one in the rain. What you see the Lincoln light? What is doing like no break missed for ninety minutes. Like, all right, right. No. It's not. And it's it's the worst taking vision away. Driving is is super scary. But it's just part of the part of the deal. Do you still? I don't I don't know if you still have it. But like a couple years ago you built like a fuck and missile FOX body. Enjoy a good day out with missile or do you need to have a like a real fun? Car. Now, I love it. That's one of my favorite causes drive. Like, I try to explain this people like there's all these there's levels to this shit like everything else right missile cars and fund drifting is the core. This is why got drifting of you think you want to get into drifting. Don't think about you wanna go to form the d think about you wanna go have fun with your friends and bang, doors and laugh your ass off the whole time. So to me like Dow never lose the want of doing that. But now that you get the competitive hook. And you know, what that's like in. That's like that becomes another thing that like you want to keep doing because you say so you only that challenge and that feeling there. So it's two different types of fun. One of them is extremely stressful with a lot on the line and expensive equipment, and that you gotta smash into stuff because that's how you win. And the other one is just unadulterated Qatar. The friends back when you like when you were starting like back in the day like when you had your beater and your fucking around into were there any other bodies that like totally had the talent to like be a pro driver, if they applied themselves to it the way you did totally my my best friend still to this day Davis. He used to go out to all those industrial parks with me. And you know, he he was a pro motocross rider and still the day was I've heard of that. Okay. And my co-driver Notre four is my best man in my wedding. I I didn't put it together. He works on the team. And we've had we've had a lot of great successes together. And you know, I the thing is like it's different right? Because you know, you say would if he applied himself. Well, here's the thing. Like, there's a lot of people have talent. And a lot of things there's probably a lot of people that are better than the best NASCAR driver out there. A lot of people that could be you know, the best drifter out there. But the thing is I guess to have the full package and understand the business unless you're just independently. You know, a billionaire, and you just wanna blow onto money. Yeah. I was just curious because I just I just watched Senator again while I was on the elliptical machine, and he taught there like who was the most satisfying person. You'll raise the talks about some guy used to carte against you know, raise go-carts with in England in the eighties. And you know, he said, this guy was the greatest driver. He ever raced against. And so I was just kind of curious like I wonder if like you had to do do you drifted with as a kid? It was like he could have easily been you know, a formula. No air there for sure could to go back to drift alliance. You know, Chris Forsberg myself, Tony. And you know, we were the ones that were constantly pushing each other for could have been something for. Applied himself hurt guy gone somewhere. But so, you know, we we we applied and and went forward, and you know, it's it's worked out really well for us a bunch of people have like real legit careers out of the show. Yeah. And you know, you're not you guys aren't even that old yet. Like, I'm most you guys are still in your mid thirties. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's been, you know, it's awesome. And then, you know, all the opportunities that have come. I mean, I've built a RTR vehicles. I built a car company tripping, you know, like an and now making, you know, we have our own turnkey cars, and we just you know, we have our our series one RTR by four performance coming out pretty soon that, you know, five hundred of them we just did with Ford from Ford nine, so let's satisfy it's incredible. It's gotta be amazing. You know for you look back. Wow. If you know twenty years ago, it was like I'm going to have a car coming out that I've kind of helped build design, you know, it's your line of car. Really, you know. Yeah. I I never would have thought it, obviously don't really sit back and think of it in that way. Because it's just what I do. Do you know, it's just been a project a passion. I mean, frankly, when I got into Mustangs in five I was like, there's nothing cool for me. Am I am? I say me I felt our generation for Mustangs, I felt like everything everybody was doing was like what they did in the seventies put on the car wheels. I like there's nothing that speaks to me five gave everyone like an opportunity to like remake their sixties car to. Right. So, you know, my once I got in there, you know, that was my my passion. I just wanted to create a new generation Mustang, and in two thousand ten is when we actually launched the first the first RTR, and it's been a long road. You know, I've learned a lot about business, and and how to do things. But now, I've got a killer team, and our f one fifty is launching this week and. News sixty nine or seventy. Mike Mayer built the suspension for that. Yeah. He's the best guy. He's. I don't drive it enough. No, that's one of the best cars radio. Right. Great Yarmouth to do something with this year. I've it's literally been sitting and like I've had so many projects that I pulled it out. So we actually brought it out is it set up for for grip or do both you you should do one lap in in the vintage class bugging, Bob. That sounds like Sean when sin like may, usually it's it's hard. I did it once it's one of the hardest amateur events you can do because it's a bunch of street driving. It's long street drives. And then you gotta go real fast. And you only get one set of tires. You wouldn't have a little issue with that. RTR's? Yeah. It wasn't. It wasn't like a fully done was. No one knows the gray. One sounds real fun. It was good. Very fun. It felt good on the track. You feel like a natural there. More than a regular GT for sure I mean, we do we do suspense what I wanted to do was have a car that a Mustang Mustangs are amazing from the factory. And I just wanted one that someone could buy and they go drag racing road racing drifting, whatever, right and just a very well balanced fund car. And so, you know, it's got adjustable suspension. And and it does that. So it was nice. Didn't we have an m three that year? Remember it being kind of comparable in a lot of ways. So that I think that the new Mustang is like it's the three of a slightly more reliable right now. I mean there isn't over. It's like a great overall car. Car. It's comfortable. I think the interior is really nice looking now compared to like twenty seven. It was just grey. Sure this show you the five hundred years go in the. Looks pretty fun. I did see the mules. I was at four performance. I don't know year or so ago, I saw the mules and I saw the that's Terex and I saw the motor. And I was like, oh, yeah. Super don't suit for supercharge GT adventures now with the five to okay, let's do that seven horsepower. Saying that might go in the raptor to the motor. Well, it should right. And then you because a the echo boosting the raptors kind of man. I mean, you know. Yes, I think it's affective, but not emotional. I don't think I think raptor needs to growl at it doesn't. So it sound it's a sound sound thing. Because let's agree that the performance is phenomenal one hundred percent one hundred people, and I'm driven the fucking GT. Dude. I respect that motor. I know how that car. The motor is sees the tits. It's amazing. It's the best essay, yours is very nice. You have a good one. Thank you. Good spec. That's very nice take it out to the canyon Sunday. Are you really do you want to meet us in Malibu? I've got some Lotuses. We'll talk about that. All right. You want to narrate a lap around long meat is this is doing his actual this over. Let's let's watch is this three sixty s. Okay. Cool. Hey, wait before we do are you in a hurry. What time is it? It's six. Oh five. No. I'm good. Okay. Because then we'll do twenty minutes a fan questions, and then and then you can go. All right. Great. Yeah. Let's see. So this is a start line up. So you're leaving I leave in second year Bank. Third Bank for quite one hundred pull the Hamburg. On throttle. Now, carry all the way out to that wall. And then based on throttle transition back a little brief an back on throttle all the way up against the wall. The judges STAN downshift in the third right here pulled the handbrake rotate the car and then back onto auto all the way up to the wall. Pretty insane. Those walls do not close. Yeah. They certainly Joe that course at a streetcar yesterday and I only got four laps. But those walls are close. Hey before we go. This is is a conversation piece the limbo genie. So I do want to say jealousy. You have Coon talk. I appreciate your jealousy before GT. I have always wanted to dodge. I had a Lamborghini waterbed at my dad's house. Oh. And then I li- I did still I brought to my mom's at some point. And I don't think I got rid of it tells fifteen so that's a good fun fact for you. Yes. Secondly, shiver Jimmy. Secondly, a Secondly, I didn't but it went away because it's too noisy. Secondly, I had a Lamborghini, you know, airbrush shirts when I was five Lamborghini curtains and sheets. I mean, I was a hardcore had avid lambo. And and I will maybe at some point get a Akune toss. But after by crashing way too expensive right now for raid reason, but you your parking the money, you're not spending the money. They're not. They're never going to go down. I agree. You parked it in the GT though. So you're going to do well with that. But it's you should you should have one every they drive. So everyone should have a Coon toss. Here's the problem that you will have with it, which maybe you don't have a problem with your non-real. Let me get let me get into for you. Tell me how horrible it is. I just wanna through. It's amazing. It's amazing going back to gap Bill. Okay. I had a chance to meet my childhood hero, and the owner of gap Bill. Let me drive his black beautiful kun-tae cool. So I got in it reversed. It he taught me how to reverse it proper, which evidently thing you sell the door. I get on the track and at my Coon Tosh like how is this happening? I'm in Norway drifting and driving a coup Tosh, and I go to get on the throttle. And I'm like. This is this is the two hundred mile an hour Guinness Book car that I've read about when I was growing up and dreaming about then. I'm like, okay. Well, cool. Maybe it's okay underpowered. So then I go to turn thing. And I'm like. This is this is this is how turns to hit the brakes, and I'm like. So can we agree that it's the most beautiful shopping cart ever on the planet? I don't know. I I don't think you're being fair. Okay. What year was a car that you drove do you not member eighty eight? Quattro valve afford, belco. I'll believe it was. Okay. So look, but look you you're pretty spoiled. You have to admit there's like. Yeah. It's not that fast fast, by today's standards. I don't I an and on a race track. I wouldn't be impressed with the brakes where the handling either. I honestly I drive it at six tenths, and it makes me very happy. Does it? Yeah. I don't go out to push it. I don't I don't. I don't care. It doesn't need to do that. For me. I get to drive like supercars and shit, which reminds me there's a fucking McLaren probably outside for me right now. I should probably go talk to them. And and really, I'm not even kidding. And actually, no press one press. As a cruiser and to appreciate it. Sounds good. It's not fast. But it's quick enough. That I expected like a little more driver experience. I don't know why just again. I'm I'm I'm respecting his built in the eighties. I guess I just had built up this more expectation throughout my entire childhood sleeping in a Lamborghini, waterbed, everything this believable thing ever. But to your point I had been drifting road Skogen, and I got it. So like, my my your calibration to drive it on the street, you need to like come out with me and go Joe drive up PCH. It's like, it's pretty wonderful. It is pretty well. Congratulations on having. I think it's does it shuts any scene down. I mean, any see it shuts it down. Okay. It's at every time I go in my garage. And I just look at it sitting there. It's there's nothing better than. At least he's this. Mclaren can you can you lock them up yourself? Yeah. Or or you can go to the are Suber chat before we get out here. I'll be I'll be right back. Okay. When you bought your sixty nine Mustang before you built it to meet in Los, and it it preceded the what's his face can't blocks corn? We built that as well. Right. Did you guys? Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's why it's the unicorn RTR. So it has our logo. You see on the Gill? We built that a lot of logos on that card be fair, but not too bad side. Okay. But yeah, no. We Kanza great friend of mine, and I was honored when he asked us to build that car, and we collaborated on the design and myself he and and our designer at RTR and also eighty Blackmore's involved in that who I worked with on RT Rx as well. And then we engineered and built it in our facility where my race cars are built in Charlotte. I mean there 'cause I grew up going to lot of hot rod shows and reading rod and custom. And all like, I you know, when I was twelve I was like, I think I know how. Box a frame, if I need to like, I didn't know how to weld, but I had read all of the how To's and all those magazines, but when I started getting into like driving more ahead of sixty five Pontiac, and then I got an actually driving around corners and shit. There was nothing that seemed like intersect, and that's why I think I love the RT are much in the Hunan corn is its intersection of classic looks and sound, and you know, all the smells kind of come with it and the styling that we can't have anymore. But then there's like the agro side of drag racing and burnouts, but they turn and they stop and they go, and it's like it's taken the best of modern performance driving, and then mixed it with this like old flavor that we all like so much about those cars, really. Thank you. I'm like not kissing your ass. Like when I car came out. I was like this is the fucking shit. Thank you the shit. And then the the suspension was red. And then I met Mike Mayer who's such a good dude and erode with him in his sixty six coupe. And he's crazy driver. A lunatic. You know that was like his sixty six didn't have a race seat in it because we were just doing a street drive thing. So it had the old Mustang seats with no headrests. Oh, yeah. And he's like lightly sliding gentle hands on the wheel. So newer fine lightly. Sliding this road next to some large trees and that had the tweeting nine in it. He's like now this is just like the drive around engine with three hundred horsepower. Because it has rows Yates engine normally with eight fifty now it does now at oh, that's right now is row sheets. But back then it was six hundred something when he's doing Optima. Right. Well, maybe he's still has that. Maybe it was then when he had that motor that the three fifty eight row shapes motor it re-. Well, he went I saw the car before it got transformed. What it was when it went to Hoon again for that show. So is the deeper blue color, a little more classic look. Now, it's kind of modernize a little if you watch fifty years of fun of video. We did celebrate fifty years of Mustang. We borrowed that car and that was an opening scene. Mike's one of those dudes like has done so much with very little backing and he's. Like, he's willing. He's the guy that like gets creative and figures it out without the budget. I got a lot of respect for Mike. Nice engineer smart. Oh, yes. Small shop and Selena's kind of guy. He's Rodman guy. He's a great human being. Well, thank you, though. That was I think the Tare Terex really, you know, RT really put RTR on the map that was a collaboration. I did with need for speed back in the day. And that was one of my biggest builds I've ever done. Right. So I didn't build that car. I-? I designed it with my team, you know, dreamed it and worked with proper people to build it. Right. I found the chassis guy that can handle the chassis work wanted. Don, I've the body on that car is ridiculous. Right. We it's all metal like we got a Dinah corn re-pot body and. It was not great. We had to add metal to fill every seem. There's no saying you cannot buy like body works. It's good. You just can't get have to make it or fix it. Especially when it comes to that kind of stuff. So, but yeah, thank you very much. It was a car. We're really proud of them. And you will be seeing it again soon. Nothing happened with it. I just. Oh. Sure. Busies time to play. Yeah. Absolutely. Gotta have fun. Yeah. Do you have a big shop? It's your by your crib or at your crib? Or I live in Maryland. I do have I have a pretty large garage with my office above it. Where a house that's good my personal vehicles in our facilities in Charlotte. So we have about right now between RTR and the most words program, I think about thirty thousand square feet nice. Are you are you in Charlotte? Just because there was so much good talent there from dot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of been a progression. Like, I just basically the team that used to run my old team when we left we left that team. We left we changed from falcon. Right. It was basically the falcon reports this team ran their program, and we stayed together. And then I eventually absorbed that facility and and the personnel. And and now it's grown. You know, I think we're crazy to say we have over twenty people now that that worked for us. And it's also changed a dynamic. You know, every decision I make I'm thinking of all the other the families. And you know, like is is now real real company. You know, anything, you know, I just believe, you know, you follow your passion, and and work hard, and you're going to you're going to achieve the goals that you set out to achieve as long as you have the right people, and we've got the right people are doing cool shit, and we're having fun. So also if I can win plan. Sorry, I had to go outside but see the color of this fucking car. It's fire. Okay. I'll check it out Polaris blue. Seven twenty. Yeah. Tomorrow, I'm doing juvenile diabetes research foundation track day Cal speedway cool there like auctioning off like I'm giving ride alongs in the seven twenty awesome. With J D R F with. Yeah. Bars and stuff for them diabetes. So thank you for doing that for like the diabetes like Wilford Bramley does. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the proper way to say we're doing the track day tomorrow at calcified way, come say. Hi, cool for live, folks. And then Fridays at LMU, Loyola Marymount university is the juvenile diabetes finishing car. Good for you did. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I will say the thing I was thinking about the Coon Tosh that you may not like it wasn't trying to tissue by. Anyway, I was thinking you were going to fully agree with me. But now, I have to know. It is it is what it is. You know what I mean? It's from the fucking eighty so driven attest Orosa, also, and I've driven a three zero eight, and I've driven all those everything of that period. Daily drivers in eighty seven Carreira. So like, I drive everything of that period. Like in the context of all of those cars, it's on the money isn't fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. It's at least as good to drive as three. Oh, eight or Testarossa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look you you have a fucking the sickest racecar ever. Like, nothing's as good as that. Right now. Yeah. You know? A higher expectation. My point was you always hear don't meet your, you know, some to some Domi your hero. So that was the only here I've ever met that was saying disappointed. My hero was a DeLorean. So so that was my baseline, which is the opposite. You're fucking race card. You know? So so, and I'll tell you what this pulling up somewhere it the way that people look at you in that car Jimmy people because I I've seen I've been to Pebble Beach, and whenever and as I says, well, I'm sorry for painting it for the audience, but like every time that car leaves the garage every single time somebody loses their fucking shit and tells and somebody maybe that person moves someone else tells me, this is the first time they've ever seen one. Right. Every time it goes out. I'm showing it to somebody for the first time. And that is such a great feeling. Yeah. I was gonna say so 'cause you're saying all the attention attention. Mike for me, not about the Taino me. Right. I know I know I was just gonna say that I don't like GT either. And like, for instance, like I it's been a Long Beach, and I was going to bring it to media day. Just because my cars here, I brought it out here for the winter instead of being a Maryland, and I was going to take an immediate day. But like, I just. I part of me was like I don't want to be that guy. But like when you look at it is like that bring it out for people to see and experience and check out like, you're not that guy. It's okay. Right. But when you look at it in that perspective like that's a great feeling when people come up to you. And it's like you take yourself out of it. And then they go your car's cool. Like, you're giving them joy you made their day. Like just having a car putting gas in it can make somebody's day like that. And to me like smiles on faces like that's what I I enjoy that so much. So I'm glad that you you have that perspective as well. And you you see that. And it's good for the car to drive it every week. Anyway, the cars very happy when it's driven is it. Yeah. It loves being driven. It's so happy right now. Yeah, I'm stoked for you that you have on us. Good smart smart for you. And what a childhood dream to. When you don't have to work you. We can go up PCH drivers. I love that. And got a few questions before send JR back into the traffic. If you wanna come Sunday coming. Are you there at the track on Saturday Saturday but Sunday cruiser because I'm a Galvin? I'm a gallon on Sunday. We have an appearance Chelsea NY from eleven to two. And then we're gonna go hit, Malibu or Angeles. Just for a little bit Malibu's for the scene Angeles forest. If you if you want to go a little quick, okay? I'll I'll we could talk about. John was going to actually see how much I could have not going over ten miles an hour over the speed limit not that much. But yeah, there's there's a road ask you about because we'll talk about this also tell you my personal time in the GT from Newcomb's ranch Tate, the gas station at the base. We'll we'll talk about them here. John says suspension changes been made for FD presumably he means for this season. Will there be more three wheeling there will be less three wheeling actually? Yup. Shy laboratory bit. Yeah. Sure. So basically, we had those cars moving around a lot too to generate more mechanical grip the tire that we were on last year was developed about four years ago and the progression has been insane. So we base guide to get gnarly with our chassis setups. To to hang with the grip that these newer tires were generating. So we basically put a ton of weight jacking in the car softened him up and made the car's weight transfer. So when I pick up a throttle. We had a ton anti squad on them. So I picked throttle all the way with transfer for the back to Anna squat would work and try to lift the rear of the car up, and you know, we had a massive from bar. So when a car sideways, it's putting everything on the rear so would lift the car, and we would three wheel every one of the best pictures ever made the great photos. It was insane to drive on a really big knife edge. You you know, like driving my car this weekend. I might you literally have fifty percent of the grip of the front. I mean, the group was it would only hurt on transitions. I guess we don't usually it was only transitions intern in but like a wheel with land or no it would be because on transition. Yeah. You'd have to get out the land be lifting the other one up so transition fast kind of get through that middle. But sometimes like on a big sweeping mid corner, you'd get a little bit understeer mid corner. You said to stay in it. And hope it didn't just plow. It was a nice. Driving a really really hard car to drive, but it looked cool as shit. So so that's it. So we we change it a bit. We now the anti five five five G two from Nitto has more grip. And so we we're able to kill the chassis back out and make it wait much easier to drive. So after yesterday like I've can't believe how easy. My car is drive. Like, it's like this is what I've been up against for years. Driving these real easy cards, easy, make adjustments, and I've been on a knife-edge, but I'm grateful because it's made me a better driver. Like, my the level that I was at because of that. So I'm really looking forward to having something easier this year. I mean yesterday, I've never seen built drivers actually happy getting out of the car for the first time since pretty good pretty cool. All right law says a flying in from Chicago for formula, d nice rented a illustrate from taro good. How fun oh he wants a recommendation for a dispensary. I should've read the second half. I sorry, marina caregivers for my. That's it. Marina del Rey. Awful Washington's rate and says, oh as an IT guy Vaughn is my hope that I'll have an exciting job one day. RTR grills and wheels will be on the GT soon. There you go sick, man. Thanks rate. And we appreciate it. And you can do whatever you want, man. Go get it takes effort. Go get the job Z. Hud, says why did you guys switch from the N T O five to the N T triple five longer-lasting? We you know, we have to run to lapse on the same set of tires and towards the end of last year. That was a big problem. So we were literally I don't know if you guys saw her when Dell but I was driving a little water puddle after. Oh, yeah. Remember that club LUSA that was to cool my tire. So that I could have good grip for the second run. And so we were lucky we had that there because we were we are struggling last year a lot just to get two laps down and be fast on both laps. So anti five five five G to we've gone up in size and it lasts way longer. Like, just for instance, Long Beach last year, we can only get to. Relapse in and yesterday, we were getting four just to give you an idea the difference. Do you think the same? I mean, this may sound like a dumb question, but consumer advice with the same thing apply. If you're driving on those tires on the street probably last longer than absolutely. Yup. Good consumer. But can you scroll down Zach microphones blocking? I can't see anything that as much. Eric's says in may do the first drift event in my JD. Mark four Supra. All right. Good for you. I've done auto cross before. And if Hoon some but any tips for my first drift event. Yeah. I think. You know, that car has a lot of grip. And so when you're beginning, you don't wanna ton of grip. So my suggestion would be to free it up a bit by just running a little bit high tire higher tire pressure. You know, I don't know what tires you're on. It's all relative. But I would say like a good place to start would probably be like forty just to make the car easy, where you're not, you know, having to use all the power, and and put all that that stress on the drive train when you go out there. So you don't break it. Yes. So it's been slided it light throttle and not just get used to tossing a car around. And I mean, I always taught everybody, you know, the the fundamentals drifting is a left turn. You know? Second gear doughnut. Right. A wide Dona a right turn. Why doughnut and then a figure eight right because you have your left drifts. You're right Driss, and then a transition. So I would you know, if you can go to a safe place before the drift event and just kind of get familiar with the weight transfer your car that would be really good. And then don't be scared. Ask questions, you know, everybody in drifting is super cool. Everybody's very like minded in down to help. So just be smart and. Dr within your means and watch where you wanna go not where you're going where you don't wanna go go to cones in a parking lot berry says what was working with the grand tour. Like, I was super rod. You know, they they put our RTR spec three on there. And it was very flattering how well our car did against the competition, and how much they actually liked it all the presenters like just loved our card for me is very validating. I love my car too. But I've obviously very little project. But they without us really telling them what it was. They nailed exactly what it was Jeremy Clarkson where I was grateful. He got the drive it because you know, he put the wood to it and got nuts with it and the break it. No. He didn't know we we had no failures cars. I mean, if I don't break those cars, no one's. Well, yeah, we've beat I've beat on those. Oh, what's your sidebar? What's your verdict on the the the cure box in the regular Mustang? GT pete. No, no, the the manual. I driven a bunch of different modify GT's where I've gotten like grinding second and third gears. Well, did you grind them or were they grinding when you got in those grinding when I got right? So they're just those guys are just trying to shift if I'd have a short Shifter, and it probably maybe no, no they didn't. But I don't know what happened before I got the car before. But that's just the bad Synchro. I mean that could be from them banging gears and not having the fast enough clutch, timing or my experience those trans. I've heard a lot of people complain about the transmissions. I never had a problem with them. But like I also drive things for what they can do. Like, the transmission doesn't wanna shift that passed shifted that fast. You give it a beat get it in like. Not losing a ton of time by being nice to your transmission. And putting it in gear we talked about this. I think when we had that in three, and then my BMW, but BMW's don't seem to want to be slammed into gear super fast the way. Like, I think corvettes shiftily like there's some cars I've driven where you can just like kick the clutch and jam like your second third or the. For the really really not all Carson knew that is that fucking viper racing. Still the same. Viper. Oh, my formula day old constitution coup. Samuel. Viper. That still. I'm not sure if it's the exact chassis by figures from the same guy, I'm not saying exactly SAM's old car, but it is car that's extrordinary that day around that is like that cars, either gonna be worth a dollar or a million dollars one smash away from not being in this sport. Last question, then we'll let you hit the road. And I wanna keep you over our time. But Paul says do you still drift car in Europe? And are there plans to enter any competitions over there? I do not have a competition drift car in Europe any longer I will be over for good this year, which fun. Have you done it before the last like three or four years really as a driver is it enjoyable? I've heard actually kind of mixed reviews fun, but you have to sit in the woods for a couple. That's the thing. The the the time, you know. Yes, you're sitting you got to get in your car about an hour early. And you know, you're going up a minute and a half climb. But goes back to smiles on faces. Right. The people there love it, and their energy is just you know, contagious, and it's sketchy. So it's fun. It's narrow right? Oh, it's super and sketchy. So like for me, basically, the driveway like, yeah. Literally Lord Martinez. Yeah. Yeah. And the parties are the party does not every night or not every night. They have the ball rights black tie. And they always bring in like a big music act rape Gatsby shit. Right. Yeah. It's it's it's like proper Royal stuff. Did you do lead foot yet? Super super fund. Did it was RAD? Yeah. Rod, and they're and they're just amazing Zealand is the shit. Yeah. I agree. Beautiful, dude. Yeah. The best. Yeah. We stayed out on the beach, and it was like a view from the goonies and then. Water like a, you know, the rock formations come out of the water. It was sick every views the British view their weight win when drift cars and started going to good with. I was it like Lou the miscreants have invaded at the villa because it felt like it's it's cool to see all these cars, and they're always from very different areas like parade up this hill. But it was also like all right? It's a minute and a half. And it's pretty straight lap some guys rail, and that's sketchy because it's narrow times it was kind of like a parade. And then eventually, you know, you guys start showing up and just laying tire marks. And there were like these off when you leave a credit Mel about it mad Mike for bringing the drift. Probably a good would think like four years ago at at at lead foot like what? Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. It was probably probably him. He's buddies with Lord Martin. Okay. They love us drifting is become the I mean, you know, there's a ton of really exciting things to right. I mean Goodwood festival speed is turned into like the ultimate UK auto show where all the manufacturers debut their stuff and everybody's racing. And this and that put when we hit the track you could literally just see people running. Well, it's to watch it as far as your sports go. It's up. The first ever seen it. Yeah. It's up there that and stadium fucking super trucks. Oh my God. I mean, those are combined like drifting stadium trucks and rally cross into a day long event, where you alternated, you know, what I mean like you did a heat adrift, and then like, and then a heat of trucks, and then you know, what I mean like as all of these events have downtime could combine them into like a row Roach. Ultimate would have your Motors off fucking day X games kind of super trucks after or. Yeah. They're walkers jumping in the middle of the street craziness. So they flatland to a down ramp. They don't need it took an a sly. They're hitting each other. And they're like, yeah. That's allowed. That's so great. So hurry nuts while they're not open wheel bounce off each other. That's true. It's true. I've seen a Fouts off each other leaving jumps in that doesn't work. Joe dot com. Come on Robbie give these like ten foot wider jump was going to be the king of that shit is Robby Gordon junior stayed. Yeah. Br Br bread killer right there, one of the best Robby, Gordon. Ghana's common for you him on the bull run rally that we did a couple years ago. You know in hindsight is fucking dumb like lifestyle shit. But whatever he was on that shit, and he had s RT Jeep and gave no FOX, and there's a video of him scaring, these three people in his car who are just like Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, you don't have to do that. Just like he's a lunatic. He's amazing. What what a talent to do. Thanks for coming in, man. Appreciate to see race is what day is your Saturday. I'm coming to see it. It's like Saturday's like from two to ten is like the best enter it's like the vintage race and then Indian inequality buying and then the W there, the m Sarrazin the you guys STAN weird this Saturday grand prix is the next week day. But it's the practice or inequality next week. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There's no whenever there's the pike Saturday night to after the race of your in towns tone. It's always time. Holly, chris. I do you know, Chris was the drummer of social D And the pike. I did not know boy, and he lets us a two thousand five we've been partying the pike every Saturday night after a long be went there in like oh, nine eighty and I made it was like FD was popular. But not what it is now, and they're just like two cars parked in their tiny parking lot. And we just hung out and drank beers talking to Forsberg, and it was just this weird small community and like everyone's going ham. But looking back on it like that was fifty people at a bar, and now it's just you know, OEM's and trucks in stadiums and stuff so big, and I will say that you guys all still because you came up in the grassroots seen everyone seems to super grounded. I've talked to a bunch of you know, you guys at your level. And no one's ever been. There's no like wall between the fans and the shore. Red life. It's like super democratic. Except except. You gotta watch guys. Just clarify for your audience. Anything we confuse them formula drift as this weekend. Sat in Long Beach. The next weekend is a Long Beach grand prix. That I use the wrong words. Well, I think you alluded that IndyCar was this weekend. So I just wanted to make sure everybody knew on the track at the same time. Not. That would be awesome. Maybe it'd be it'd be just like gap Bill any cars, come through your look at east drifters. Let me you could do your own sort of like Jim Khana thing where you had different rolling clipping points that you just. Yeah. All Rolls Royces or something just like this. Rainbow sheiks cars like the huge James. I just won't look at him. And I won't hit them. Yeah. There you go. Good lesson. Fong in junior. Ladies. M Mike Mike Cranston dogs. Have a good racist weekend. Right to see you. Happy dad nece. Thanks, guys.

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Episode #44: Direct Connections - Jonny Mopar (Part 2)

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Episode #44: Direct Connections - Jonny Mopar (Part 2)

"Welcomed. So number forty, four talking Mo- pars and part two of the direct connections episode from last week with my friend. Johnny moped once again, earmuffs are recommended for the Kiddos but we had a fun time and we hope you will too. So without further ado if you are a Mo- pont who's east and you are in the right place, don't go anywhere. You're tuned into the best mope enthusiast driven podcast on planet Earth and I'm your host Chris. Albrecht better known as the MOPE are hundred, and this is talking bars direct connections. A. You're listening to talking. With the multi-car Hunter, your direct mention all things Mo- park. Did we talk about your road runner on the first episode, we did together of the show I. Don't want why don't you tell us the story? Yes. Aside from chargers and burnt up Khuda. Johnny and a whole host of other MO- pars. Johnny has also had a really awesome dude. You're roadrunners bad, ass. Tell us about your road. I remember seeing the pictures of it for the first time and I'm like. Hey, you have too many cool cars that I want. So. Tell us about that. Awesome roadrunner. This is the ratty one right the blue. Absolutely that okay. Man That card if I could find that exact car right now, I'd be a very happy man but. Tell us tell us the whole story about the road. All right. So Up in the high desert, which is I think it's like Apple Valley area out here. Not You know not that you would know where this is but anyway, it's it's it's a little bit of a stretch to get there from where I lived but I think it was in the recycler craigslist or something? I'm not even sure craigslist was around back then but I found this seventy roadrunner right And it was pretty sketchy description and stuff and I call the guy and he's like ads. Pretty. Roach Dow. But it does run. It's a three car I'm like all right has tiktok tack in it unlike. Allen go check this thing out so I was just dating my wife back. Then you know so I I I cook stir into going for a drive. You know a road trip up to go check out this car. And get there and it's like this. Lavender primer color in somebody rattled canned stripe on the hood. Had the Bulge Hood. And but Iran. And I was like, Oh, by had, we'll flares in the back which I didn't care for. And I think I think I paid. I want to say was like Fifteen hundred bucks to two thousand dollars somewhere in there. Drug at home. And then I didn't like the color. So I black primaried the whole thing and then I drove it around a little bit but I didn't have it long and then I was starting to chip out the crap and you know the flares and the wheel wells the hated it, and then it's like, oh. God. Why did I opened this up just nasty like they just they just got in there with like sheet metal cutters and just like peeled the medal up and then just mud it you know. Was Nasty and then the right rear corner that car. It had been hit and then so somebody cut a clip off of another car I'm thinking a four door. And like grafted it into the car, they did a terrible job of doing it. So I I was just like this way too much for me. I'm I'm not gonNA take on the project like this so I put it up for sale. And I think it was probably the recycler. Anyway this guy from same area Apple Valley calls me up. He's a tow truck driver and he's like a he was yeah a I I know that car seen that car up here stopped trying to buy that car that guy wouldn't sell it for years and years, and he's like, how did you get a hold of it and I'm like it was in the recycler He's I can't believe I. missed it. You know. So anyways, he goes. Well, he didn't have eating the money, but he's like, would you be interested in a trade and I'm like I don't know like what do you got? You know he's listing off the one hundreds and you know some bodies like Darts and Whatever Who wants a dart when he can get chargers all the time for not? Exactly. Exactly. So unlike No not interested. He goes well, I got a I got a sixty nine road runner and I go. He goes with doesn't have drive train in it, but you know it's five blue and. I go. Sounds interesting. I'd be interested in that and he goes I. Go dude this car is rough. The seventy is rough 'cause. I've really like seventy seventies on my favorite. Described everything wrong with the car. I think it had three fifty five's in it but anyway, he's like well, can you come up and can I check out the car because I was really Skeptical that he would be interested in trading for it. Right so I, I, drive a met him. I went like three quarters of the way up there, and then he met me because he was working he was actually he showed up in a tow truck. We met like right off the freeway. You know he's checking out the car and he's like I want I'm interested and I'm like all right cool and he goes well. Come back up on the weekend and all I had was like a really sketchy picture. Of the Blue Road runner, the sixty nine. And so I said well, all right. I'll come up. So I- trailer the seventy up. I wasn't even sure was going to do the deal on this sixty nine because I hadn't really seen it. You know. So I get up to his house and he goes yeah. Come on. Let's go rhino take you. And show you the show the car whatever and he goes I. Let me show this all this other stuff you know. So he takes me shows me the D one hundred it was on Boyd's and but it'd been sitting. You know it was a project everything he had was a project. And I'm just like do this guy. I'm getting mad because he's like this like a bait and switch type of deal you know. I'm like, no not interested in any trucks. No not interested in any Bait Abe bodies and so he tried to you know get me to see everything he has and hopefully do a deal. He didn't want to let go of that sixty nine if he didn't have to. So he finally takes me back to his house and opens the garage and boom there's the sixty-nine. And I'm like all right. This car it's rough it was rough to, but it wasn't as rough as the seventy so it was like The seventy ran, but it had like major sheet metal problems with it. You know in everything worked in that seventy like all the gauges were the lights worked everything worked. It was pretty reliable, but it was a tired three three. Sixty nine had no drive train was missing a ton of parts no interior. Like, but it didn't have a corner clip off the car I'll do the trait. So I, did the trait. Drug, that thing home. I actually had that car for. A few weeks and I'm like thinking to myself what the hell am I doing this thing is too much work like it needs everything I actually put that car up for sale for I. Think you know the fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars that I had paid for the seventy to try to get rid of this thing Didn't get a few calls. Didn't get a lot. I had one guy actually come out and look at the car and he was just like. his too much work man and he goes well, I'll give you like you know a thousand bucks for it or something Nelson's I felt kind of insulted like. Net. Now, keep it in that kind of pissed me off it. Kinda give gave me some drive to I could show these guys with this car could be you know so I stripped it the engine bay painted it defy blue the car was actually not be five blew. It was like a a heavy metal flake. Be Five blew. It was Kinda. Look like be five same shade, but it had a lot of metal flake in it very metallic, not a factory color. but I left it left the outside the same pain the engine bay original color was turquoise seafoam Turquoise. Yeah. It was a cool car. It was actually rare because it was a three eighty three in hat cruise control which I didn't even know sixty nine had cruise control neither did I. that's yeah. Yeah, oh. There you go. There's another trivia for you. Remember Trivia. I don't know anything about Moore's yeah. Yeah. No, that's that's cool. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool car. So anyway Started putting it together. I, found this guy selling. Crate Motors he had. Well, he listed as create engines right and at that time. So this would have been in the nineties somewhere. Mo- part actually may create. It was when they were making the handmaid's again they were making Great Wedge Motors to, but they were really expensive. I'm GONNA say they were like five grand or something like that. This guy was selling one for like twenty, five, hundred bucks and the other one, fifteen, hundred bucks and I thought man that's Kinda cheap for crate engine. You know. So I, called him up on it and he's like, Oh, it's not the MO- part performance created engine. It's A. It's like a factory of replacement block or in a long block and I'm like, okay, I go. Yeah and he goes well, just come out and just make me an offer and I'm like odd dude I go I I probably wouldn't be able to pay that kind of money for it and he goes just come out and look at it. All right. So I go out there and he had to I can't remember what? Were the details on the other engine, but the engine that I was interested in it was a seventy eight RV. Long Block this thing was. All blew. It had the original exhaust manifold on it which were you could see the over spray blue on them still. It had tags on the motor like this thing never been ran before. So. What had happened? He told me he got it from a guy that used to work at a dodge dealership. Somehow this motor got in there for a to get a warranty job to get replaced. and it it I don't know maybe they fixed the whatever that motor was four they had fixed it and they didn't need the engine. So just sat there sat in a corner shop. So one of the workers when mechanics bought the motor from the dealership. and. He just sat on it for years. He poured gear oil down all the cylinders so that it wouldn't rust completely filled them up right. And so it's like okay and you know I, don't know. I don't know if this is true I don't know how well it's going to run and it's been sitting around is been outside supposedly being garaged. So. I said Dude I'll I'll give you five hundred bucks for it. That's that's the best. I can do you know I it's just it's a gamble for me. It's a gamble. And he goes all right. I'll take it I'm like thinking shit you went from fifteen hundred bucks two to five hundred bucks or it might have been the twenty five hundred dollar motor to five hundred dollars I I can't remember you know. I thought I was beginning a low balling. You cut him more than. Wow John It was easier back then I. Don't do this stuff anymore. But. Anyway. So drag it home and put it on A. pull the plug on it turned it sideways with a Pan Underneath it sure enough manicure oil just comes pouring out of it. So I drain to think of oil It was a cast crank motor. I threw a par forty four lift can't know four, seventy, four lift cabinet. And Draw Cam through headers on it. But Eto. Brock RPM INTAKE FOR IT And affordable car and dropped it into this this road runner you know. And the first time I put adjustable rockers on this thing. And I start the CAR UP I. Get, it running the thing sounds like a frigging raped ape man it was bad, ass you know an open header at first. You know. I. Take it around the block or I think I got the exhaust. Hitter I took it out around the block and just late into it and it was like. And I mean for me. That was the most power at ever experienced in my life you know It was bad, ass. So Of course, it's running like shit now though you know something's wrong and it's popping and exhaust and stuff. So I'm like Shit, pull the valve covers and sure enough got bent push rods like I'm just not. This adjustable rocker Shit on a hydraulic cam is just not for me. So put pull all that crap off and I put stock drivetrain on it. are Valerie on it and fired it up. Took it around the block thing ran. Awesome. But. I'm out of light and I can hear. You know it's like the motors really loud because of the exhaust and I can hear a knock like just that sounds like a rod knocking. But when I would lay into it, it would go away. which it's like usually get worse if you're you know you're lying into, it's GonNa knock harder whereas if you lay out of it, it's going to get lighter I would think then I thought well, maybe the oil pressure is going up and that's why it's not knocking and. I didn't know what it was driving me. Crazy. And then. I'm like I was so mad because I did all this work to this car you know I, take it around the block and I'm like screw it. I'm just going to blow it up. So I just frigging just nailing this car. Tearing it up up and down the street. Didn't hurt it never change it would just have this little knock you know and it was only at idle. And so I put it up on Jack stands I fi-. It's because I'm you know I'd bring it home and look around I don't see anything touching rattling anywhere you know so I put it up on Jack stands and I fired the car up And I can see the header on the driver's side was pretty close to the torsion bar. And I'm like. Is it hidden? So I took a crescent wrench handle on a wedged between the two. And the noise went away. So it was just sitting there. The motor was shaking enough where at idle or in year at a stop sign you know it would. It would just knock that torsion bar when when I jumped on it, the the motorway torque over away from torshavn barred, it would knock because it was all smooth you know. So. anyways. I lived with it I live with the knock it going to change the for that and Yeah, I had a lot of fun with that car to get down to qualcomm stadium and race it at the drag strip. They're in the cars it was it's a mild for forty. You know. More. Or less stock. A performance stock engine you know but had a lot had a ton of fun with that car I. Think it went. At qualcomm, it went eight six in the eighth mile and then went to Irwindale one time in the car went eight one didn't do anything to it was just qualcomm was A. Racing in the parking lot you know and Irwindale was a real drag strip like they would lay rubber they prep the track and stuff like that. So thing would hook so. When I launched at Irwindale the first time I launched. This thing it felt like a sledgehammer hitting the bottom of the car. But when I first launch my holy Shit, I mean just a ban. Extremely. Loud. And I'm like, Oh my God I broke the car. But everything seemed normal I I got out of it but everything seemed normal side jumped on it again, I just got on it and everything seemed fine at get to the pit area. Look under the car I don't see anything wrong with the car. Like what the Hell is that. So I get out there and I I go again a nail it this time I'm just gonNA stay on it. Pam Fan bet like three big band I mean, as hard as you can take a sledgehammer to hit the bottom of the car. That's what this felt like. I. Like my Car's low. So I had to inch block on this thing. So this thing was already low torsion bars returned all the way down. I cut the bus stops up front so that I could get it lower and still have like a little sliver of travel and What was happening is the car was hooking. So good at Irwindale, the PINION was coming up and smack in the body. And there was no distance between because I have the car so low. So it was just it was hitting the body of the car that's where the sledgehammer sound was coming from. So Did it. And I've heard stories about those things Dan the floor pants. No. I I, mean that motor I calculated it to make it was making about three hundred, ninety horse. So it wasn't like crazy horse power. I'm sure if it was making more horsepower would've done something like that but it only did it that I only raised earn Dale that one day. I probably made like ten passes because. The one of the speech shops out here is Bob Mazza leany out in Riverside. You've heard of him. He's a he was in China shop one day binds parts and he goes, Hey, we're gonNA. We're all GONNA get together. We're GONNA rent Irwindale, it's like a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks to get in and go racing there and we're GonNa have the track all day to ourselves. So I was like, okay, cool. Do that all I was the only guy there with like streetcar everybody else there was with real like himmy cars and you know big big motor cars you know drag cars so. He would always give me a hard time because he's like you got your money's worth man you because I may ten passes these guys would make one pass and then they go to the pits and they'd have to cool off for an hour you know and here I am just in a Streetcar It's like Foo Foo Foo. Yeah it was it was cool. But yeah, I picked up a half second. So I always knew that car had a lot more in it. It just needed traction. You were just running street tires imagine. Now's running slicks. Yeah. It was a small slick though I think it was a nine inch slick Twenty eight inch diameter. If I remember, right. had sure grip in at three, fifty, five gears. But Yeah. It was still just spinning at at qualcomm. It just wasn't a sticky track out there so. So what what happened with the roadrunner then. So. Man That car I think I told you this before it was just it was. So what other than when I first got it running after that it just it never gave me any problems it. Super reliable car I could always jump in and go anywhere in that car and I did and plus. The Fun factor for that car it was so. it's different like my coronet is painted out not say it's done. It's it's nice enough for me. But I won't leave it anywhere. You know I won't leave it in a parking lot and walk away from it. It's like I gotta stay close to the car and make sure nothing. Touches it. But with the roadrunner was so rough it's like I could park it anywhere and if somebody scratched it, I would never know because already had a ton scratches and dents and dings everything in the car so. Yeah, there was a lot of freedom in that and then plus just drive it on the streets. I drive it like a roadrunner that thing I would haul ass in that car and I throw it sideways at rose the tires in it. You know never never concerned about hurting that car you know so. The ratty muscle car thing you just did a episode on Talking about ratty muscle cars so fully. I could tell you just the difference. It's a different. It's a different experience. It's an awesome. It has I'm you know the Nice cars are really nice and I nice cars. I'm sure most people do. The ratty muscle car thing and there's like a whole `nother level of freedom. You have with cars like that. 'cause you kinda just cut to the chase. You don't worry about fixing it up you just get right I'm going after the motor you know the transit what do I need to make this cargo down the road and you spent you could spend a little more money on horse power than than paint job or you know replacing some rusty panels or stuff you know and once once that thing is rolling down the street, you don't worry about getting. Hit An accident or getting. I mean, you don't care I mean to some degree you don't care. So. It's I could see why it's very popular. Now I did it because I was poor. But you know now it's kind of a thing. Yeah. That's it's always good when trend start from. Low, income type. Yeah. Relations because then it opens the door for like. Like. I love it. I. I could. If I won. The power ball or the crazy lottery or something, and I was a millionaire like I said on the show I'd still have ratty. Weird like that I. Just I love him, I. I look at. So. Many more cars every week and I. Only. Like now I'm kind of desensitized to all of it. But I still get excited when I see. You know. A CORONET RT that's mostly original and kind of like in a you know as found condition like it survived the eighties still a little beat of ratty muscle car but a pure car I like it when I find the RT's or the Dr Gt asses or the. Duster three forties. You know that somehow survived maybe they've had a repaint but yeah, those cars are just awesome get him running in drive him and enjoy the hell out of him and if you want to restore wait until you got all the cash and then You know. Yeah. We I think we talked about this before I. Don't know if we talked about it on the episode or we're just be accessing but. You. Know I think. I think that if you're one of those guys that's restoring a car like there's nothing wrong with that but. What I've learned is it takes years life comes along you know family kids, house finances, all that stuff job. All that stuff will throw a monkey wrench into restoring a car and like I've told you with the with the duster that thing is drug out well, over ten years you know and that's not a the snot a restored car. You know it's just a just a hot rod just playing with it but I hate the fact that it took so long to get to where it is and it's still not done. It's still not quite there. You know. So like if you restoring say seventy rt charger something like that like that's fine do that but. Like have another car. If you can like have that ratty muscle car like you're talking about you you you know it sort of somewhat survivor, but it needs some things and you throw some disc brakes on it maybe put new brake lines, pads, all that kind of stuff, the brakes in order. Maybe the motors locked up and you just put A. A motor home for forty in there with a little cam in it or something like that, and just go have fun have fun with that car and you drive that car while you're restoring the bitching car in the garage. I agree one hundred percent. That's. You WanNa. Have Fun. That's the whole point of the hobbyist to have fun. You know for me right now I have two projects that are still down in the garage because I did him seem to find time I'm going find time eventually, but it just kills me because I want to enjoy and I can't right now. Yeah. Cards of. Life basically. Yeah. But. The next car I, get will be. Either, very, very close to running and driving or running and driving. That's my goal I I don't know if I told you or not but The e o five charger that I wanted got sold to somebody I know. So okay. I'm not mad about it at all in. Here's why because the guy who got it now I don't know if he wants everybody to know I'm not going to spill the beans form, but he does restore and build cars and he's building some. Awesome stuff and. From what I understand this from what he's told me and what I've heard about what this car is going to be I'm really excited and it's GonNa be better than I could of ever made it. I was GONNA Make Rodney Pro Streetcar that was my plans. Just haphazardly throw together a pro streetcar. He's got some wicked wicked plans for it. So I'm really excited to see it. I'll tell you off. The cars that he's been working on. Okay. It's a it's going to be insane if. What I've heard comes true but. At first I was a little bummed out. I'M NOT GONNA lie he sent me a picture over facebook messenger of it on the trailer and he's like taking a picture of it like in the mirror I'm like damn it. You know deep down it always hurts when somebody else who is on a car that you're interested in. But at the same time I knew it was going into the right hands and I know the guy. So I'll be able to see the car and hey I don't get to spend any money on it. I probably won't get the drive it but at. Least I don't have to spend the money on it and I can see that it would become had I gotten it but I was thinking about it and I was like, well, the whole point of me the only reason I even saw that car in the first place was because I got a tip about seventy five, D one, hundred, two, wheel drive short bed. and. You know when I got there to look at the truck i. was so focused on the charger. You know that I paid very little attention to the truck and now looking back I probably should have just disregarded the charger and is paid attention to the truck I'm thinking back and I'm like, okay, it was a three eighteen supposedly ran It was a three speed manual and it was originally black as everything I. wanted a you know I wish it was a forest but. I started thinking about it and I was like, yeah, had had a lot of rest problems, but then I thought. Hey it would make a great Radhi muscle truck because I got the truck on air bags you know. So that's Kinda like you know do I really WanNa make that one fast maybe a little quick maybe a little bit more powerful but not fast and. After my buddy sent me the picture of the charger and I knew it was out of my hands and I wasn't going to get it. I started thinking about that d one hundred again i. Try to work a deal on that thing 'cause. You know that. One thing I've learned in this game is that you may lose out on an opportunity, but there's always going to be another one down the road. You just have to patient and that one's been in my face the whole time. So yeah, I'M GONNA. I know the owner of that car is listening and I don't want to give out his name. I don't want to put him on blast, but he's also selling seventy challenger that he talked me out of because originally. I was talking to big game and I kind of wanted the charger, the truck and when I found out, he had a challenge till's like, well, how much for all three? Let's get crazy. Yeah. He really wouldn't give a price on the Challenger at the time but now after selling the charger, he has a price on the Challenger and it's twenty five hundred. Oh what your challenger it's a seventy It's J H car, but it is. He's a realist in he says, you know it's it's good for AH donor car basically he doesn't think it should be rebuilt. Or that it's rebuildable. But what I saw on, it immediately was like that's a race car waiting to happen. Has. J. H. You know twenty five hundred bucks. It's debatable whether that's too expensive. I mean it's probably too expensive for Johnny Mo Party you're not getting lucky. But, I mean, from all the ones I've seen like twenty, five, hundred bucks for a decent show I mean, he says, it needs quarters which probably does. Floors and the roof although I did not see what he was talking about on the roof but I take his word for it because he also restores cars. But I'm I'm just like, okay. Throw skin on the roof and get the quarters in as far as the floors I would say just. You know if you'RE GONNA turn into a race car aluminum floors get crazy with it one piece friend and just get nuts with it and the track but. Twenty five hundred dollars like. You. Know it was actually supposed to be if it. If you weren't doing the episode, it was going to be project car. The week has wanted to talk about. You know maybe you don't WanNa. Streetcar and you just want to spend a couple grand and start building a race car something like that might be right. Right, what about what about a road kill car I mean? You know what I love about road. Kill's is just like it's swung the door open for you know being able to have a ton of fun with something for virtually no money. You know I mean like a buddy of mine he's got a got a POLARA. Sixty. Four I think four five. Whatever three I think it's a sixty three actually anyways of rusty car he bought patch panels for it and he just riveted him to the floor over the original floors to fix the holes in the floor because the car he paid like. I think he paid like two hundred bucks for this frigging car and who's running as poly three eighteen in it to four door you know but Sorry getting a message here. Yeah. I mean. For. Him To cut the floors out of afford or and replace them and welcome in. Do it right? Car's not worth anything, but to rivet some floors in there so your feet don't fall through and you could just go have a ton of fun with this thing and just go thrash on it. What's wrong with that? You know it would if you could do that. To car like seventy challenger and have like a really. FREAKING COOL car. You know rent thrash around on the seventy challenger. I don't I don't think he understood where I was coming from when I said Hey I don't I'm a ratty Mo-. Par. Guy Yeah I. Don't have the money to throw at these cars to give him full restorations and I don't have the resources. That's all there is. And he's the type of guy where it's like you know restore them. You know make him very pretty and. You know that's where we differ in our opinions and. He's like Oh it needs rufin quarters and I'm like for what to win a show. Yeah. Sure. I'm not trying to win turn to drive the damn thing. Yeah. But that's Exactly. What you were just saying is how I'm looking at this truck if I get this truck because it had some questionable rough spots on it, but I was thinking to myself I, was like. Hell Dude you're GONNA you're not gonNA, take it to a show and expect to win a show you WANNA drive it. Till the wheels fall off, drive the hell out of it. So I'm like, okay maybe this will be a fun truck and. I like that it's a manual because I really WanNa put a pistol grip shifter in an old truck. Really do stupid little thing I know it's Kinda lame. But I'm GONNA do it. If I get that truck I'm GonNa get hurt in there just for fun even though it's a three speed screw it. But going to the whole floor panting it was funny that you mentioned that cause when you said that I was thinking about, I have a collection of Washington license plates and You know for anybody that's been listening to the show for any amount of time I've mentioned a couple of times that I actually am a garbage man, but I pick up residential recycle and the number of license plates I've gotten from my job just dump a car and I see the out of the can falls a bunch of license plates shut everything off I opened the truck up and I go in there and I dig a vandal. Fish out these license plates I'm like Oh these I have stacks of Washington. State license plates nothing special but Because your wife when you come home those days is your wife like what the Hell Are you doing today? She doesn't know that I bring home license nights. The smell. I mean through the trash here's my other. So for those of you that don't know after a certain amount of time the smell dies on metal. So I actually. In my work truck. If you were to open one of the side compartments I, have license plates stacked up. So I have a bunch of license plates just letting all the rotten food or whatever is thrown in that. Kinda wear off. As even though even though it's recycle for some reason, people still put trash in their recycling. So the ones I've fished out I'm like, okay. Cool. It's got food on it. The little lot that I have right now is probably ready to come home and. But anyways I was actually thinking about. Because that truck does have some you know those de one, hundred, zero they're either clean or they're really not this one. The floors are pretty rough and if I remember I it The pictures of it somewhere but it has a patch on the tunnel and I was just thinking I was like gone all these license plates. I could. You know. Screw. These license plates through the floor and just have a license plate floor I mean screw. You make it ready. Yeah. Exactly. I. Think I've seen that on like rat rods before Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I like that in the I've seen street signs used. Yeah. which I thought was already cool. It's like, oh So. Who knows what the Hell? I actually have the Stock Hood from my I've been hoarding it because I'm like you know I take it down to bare metal and use the metal for patch panels if I really wanted to. But yeah. Who knows I'm not sure how much he wants to sell the truck to me for I'm trying to get it for the 'cause I helped them sell the charger. Help I know he's listening to this I know he's going to. You're listening buddy? young now, trying to help him sell this challenge because I think it's good car for something. There's an ass for every seat. You know. Some thirty. Cars cars that are like on the cusp you know like. Parts car. That probably doesn't. It's not cost effective to restore. You know maybe two, three, eighteen cars and it's like, sorry, there's no value in it floors rusty quarter pounder rusty or whatever. I mean, if you think about that one car like. Okay, it's destiny is to become a parts car for something else and then get crushed. So. It's like why not throw a few more years of life on it and just go thrash on it beat on it and tear around quarter somewhere in seventy challenger before it. Meets demise you know I, think I think if a car's got that kind of. Destiny, for like, it's going to die like. Why not as long as it's structurally safe you know like we're not talking through rails rusted out and anything like that. But you know rails are good on the rails are good on that car. So yeah, I did it. In fact I mean, if you did something like that and. Twenty years from now you know that it might be worth because they're. They're dying off. We're getting fewer and fewer of them every day it's become a worldwide. Hobby and so the world is consuming these old. American cars. So it's not like they're all just consolidated in the US anymore so. You know I, I mean. I. The stories I've told you with my cars. I mean so many of those cars like that. That sixty nine told you cut up. Today I wouldn't cut that car up. But it wasn't worth it back then. And Shit if I had that car today, how cool would it be to just throw a drive training? Go Thrash on the damn thing no matter how ugly it looks it's still sixty nine charger you know absolutely. I battle all the time. And this is one reason why for anybody that follows the mope part hunter on facebook why I don't interact so much on the comment threads on these posts because. My. My feelings are always gonNA stay the same like For instance, with this challenge twenty, five, hundred bucks you will double your money someday. Maybe maybe not tomorrow maybe not next year but someday, there's no more seventy chart or challenge getting made, right Someday someone's GonNa go. I WANNA seventy challenger. Shell on original Shell and you've got one. And who knows what they're going to be we don't know what the future is going to bring I mean back in nineteen, sixty nine. If you tell people that the cars they were buying for, you know four or five, grand three grand. We're going to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars because they have Hemmingsen. It would've been like, yeah okay. So like here's a good example is there is a. Restoration shop and I guess you could call him a dealership called SAUNAS master garage out in Denver I believe and they pull some really interesting cars and. I I think they just source them from wherever and some of them are barn fines and some of them aren't, but they just recently posted I believe it's a seventy three forty duster that's been repainted once but it's got eleven thousand original miles and just looking at you can tell why hasn't rolled over because you look at it and you're like, okay, that's original. Carpet that is I mean immaculate in this. You know I'm looking at the car and a like. In my head, I know where the money's going to be and I was I was pretty close. They want thirty thousand dollars for this thing. Now, it's a seventy dancer K. so I'm like. In my head, of course, some going as enabling the owner on like away thirty grand. You're kidding me that's that's at a price reduction in I'm like. Man. That's a pretty optimistic for a body but thing. In twenty years, we may all be looking back at that going God that was actually a good deal because who would have known. That, you know a low mileage. You never know what cars going to take off next jared Buddha's. I'm waiting I'm waiting for the. SCENE TO BLOW UP ON DARTS SO I. Have mine be worth something but US giving you a hard time. When you posted the the seventy one you said you were going to pass on it. And it said pretending like I was a host on. Bars and saying. You know like we're having these conversations about mild stories and we're going to have Chris on this show talking about this charge charger. He could have bought for thousand bucks or something like that or thousand bucks. Yeah. In now they're going for two million dollars you know. Twenty, thirty years later. Not that they will go for that kind of money, but you'd never know I mean. They're definitely. Nomo part that you buy. Will lose money at this point in my opinion unless you buy new something off the lot and that's just natural depreciation. If you buy anything I mean Gosh even the. Turbo mode parts of the eighties which I'm a big fan of the eighties nineties even those things I've I've seen some low mileage examples going for quite a bit of money and. I just don't see anything from that era back and also including vipers i. don't see him depreciating anytime soon unless the economy. Takes a complete dive. I know there's a lot of people. You know. They thought Corona virus was gonNA. Bring. You know the best mope our prices you've ever seen I look every day I have not seen those prices yet. Yeah Yeah, and if I I've come to the conclusion like I'm sure you're seeing the the seventy charger for ten grand that ended up selling for twenty one or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I I think I figured it out that guy knew he was never gonNA sell that car for ten grand. He wanted to get as much people calling him as possible. So he could play that game answered the phone somebody's got I got ten grand cash right now come get it. Man I. You know that's cool. I'll keep you on the list, but I've got three guys one guy, seventeen, one guys at nineteen in reality. Nobody's called because they figure the car's been sold. So the goes okay. Okay. Okay. I'll come over. Let me come over and look at the car I'll bring some extra money goes over twenty granted. You know it's The way people game the system and I'm starting to like pick up on this stuff because at first I really didn't care so much with the prices that I post cars on the moped hundred with because. Nine, times out of ten ninety, nine point nine percent of the people that look those cars aren't going to buy them. You know what I mean yeah, and For me it's never about. You know prices it's more about just the car and just getting an idea of what's out there. Yeah and I think that gets lost on a lot of people but. Some of these prices are obviously way way optimistic but I always ask people hey, if you're selling the car, you're gonNA give it away. No try to get as much money as you can. That's the whole point of selling something right? Unless you're a really nice guy but. You know I I've met a few but I haven't met a lot that'll give cars away. And it's understandable. You WanNa make a little bit of money. I mean what? I sell a car. When I screw over a buddy to make a dollar? No absolutely not if I. If, I didn't need to get rich, I wouldn't do it to a friend but. You know. If, you're selling it just to sell it like if I was going to sell my dart right now, I know deep down inside the car's probably worth as it sets I mean it's basically a shell. I mean, I bought it for fifteen hundred bucks I didn't you know that it wasn't an investment car to me yeah. So I'll be lucky to even get that out of it probably. But I've seen other darts where I'm like how is this and then I start thinking to myself? Maybe I'm undercutting myself maybe maybe I have a car that's actually worth a little bit more maybe four grand or three grand right but You know these prices that I'm seeing. I can always tell people lose their minds. He's out of his mind. A lot of people think that they're all my cars I. Get I get a kick out of that. They think that they're talking to the seller like good luck buddy. You'll never get your out of your mind and I'm like. I always just post something to the effect of like Oh. Hey, the seller is probably not gonna read this. You know he's he doesn't know his cargo posted on here. So you're basically talking to the air buddy, but right now me and myself you actually think that all these cars I post our mind. I want if I had all these MO- parts, I would not waste my time on facebook I'd be out doing all my Mo- bars again. I mean I I get it though some of these prices are nuts but people they just. They flame there is like. They go crazy in the comments. I. Think he's going to sell it for that. No Dude he's overpricing it so that someone will come in and think they're getting a deal when he's asking twenty and he sells for fifteen not thousand off where you buddy you know. Exactly. So I think people are taking these prices. To their. To personally, they're not all that price you know. Yes. There are overpriced and they stay up in ads I. See it every week that I look for these cars I'm like Oh there's the same car. How long has it been up there now? Oh, six months. Yeah. He's not gonNA sell it for that price. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's it's just a combination of everything you know you got. People that think their car is worth more than it is you know and you've got people that have well I. I. bought a Ratty Charger that was had rusted out floors for you know five hundred bucks in here. You are selling the same car for fifteen thousand dollars like you're a crack you know and so those are the guys that are usually make putting comments on those posts you know So it's a relative thing but use the seller. Yeah I mean. You just never know if that rusted out cars. are T in it's a particular. You know it's a seventy rt with the four, forty six pack and it's plum crazy purple. There's probably some guy out there. That's like that's the car for me. I gotTa have that car you know it's it's got all the nation. I want you know if he's got the bank roll to restore it He's not GonNa Snuck it a flinch at fifteen thousand dollar price and he's probably not GonNa pay that maybe we'll pay. Twelve four it or ten or something like that. You know depending on how bad the car is but you know and that's these guys that are making these comments. A lot of times they don't see that they don't. They can't envision that because they paid far less for a car. So the values of these cars are it's kind of hard to. It's Kinda hard to pin down really you know these aren't like new cars where you go on Blue Book and You Punch in a certain amount of mileage you know and then it spits out the car's worth this dollar amount you know and they're all worth this much. Across the whole country you know they're all the same. These cars are all over the place. You know. So yeah, it's it's absolutely crazy and there are those nut jobs that see these auctions and think it's something that is worth goal than it's like. Are you re that? Dumb? Yeah. Were you just trying to find a sucker or are you just pricing high hoping that somebody's GonNa come in and make your day I. You know there's There's people that think just because it's old it's worth a lot of money. Know I was joking about the slant six, four door car but I've actually seen that happen there's a Mo- parked car club down in San Diego and I went down to go to one of their Club nights in that particular night this girl showed up and She was she's like, yeah, you know her grandad passed away and left her this car and it was like it was I can't remember what it was specifically, but it was. A valiant or dart you know like a sixty, seven or eight. Slat six four door like Oh, it's in great condition. It's perfect and she's probably watching bear Jackson on TV and she's like kids. You know it's for sale anybody wants to buy it. And she was asking like five grand for it. It everybody in there is like No no, it's not. You know they're squirming nobody wants to break her heart and say, Ari, it's not worth any of that. That's. The desirability that car is so low. It's condition. Doesn't matter you know so. All these factors play the desirability of the car, the condition of the car you know. I've seen that many times with people. Oh, it was my GRANDPA's car and they they think it's worth a little bit of money and it's like. Nobody. Really wants that thing. I take that back because like I said there is an ask for every seat but some of those asses are really hard to find. Yeah. Well, there's somebody that wants that car but they're gonNA pay. Back when I went that that car was maybe an eight hundred dollar car. And it's best day. So at that price, somebody will buy. Somebody will. Be Tickled pink to drive it. Absolutely, you know there's only one. There's only one person on this earth that could probably look at all the prices of any of these said even. Not just I post but other people post and can say that's way too much money. I only paid one hundred dollars for sixty eight charger. That's johnny par Johnny Morris. The person on this planet that can complain about prices being too high. He's got a track record of lowest price motorcars everybody I know. Whole. Bunch of 'EM. Yeah it's but it's cool. It's cool to hear those stories. You know because against like me and others hope that one day you're going to, you never know what is hiding in that shed or that backyard and how you catch that person on the right day. Yeah. Or you're the type of person they've been waiting for somebody. Nice. Not some. Yeah you can't be a jackass. You approach some of these people because they're going to you know. Oh Yeah. They'll sniff it out. Oh Yeah. They'll. They'll stiff it out here. You're not going to get the car. You'RE NOT GONNA get it at a deal now but absolutely not. I mean as a unique set of circumstances back then it's you know I was thinking about it. It's like you know I haven't. Other than the the. Charger paid thirty, five, hundred four, which is a pretty big dollar amount compared to cars. I bought in the past you know A. You know I haven't done this kind of stuff a lot. In lately, you know So it's like well. Part of it was you know we were talking about the area, maybe the dodge dealership in the area it was it's rural. So people can when their car breaks down, they could park in the yard and let it sit there ten to fifteen years whereas if you lived in the city code enforcement would say you need to get this thing out of here or we're GONNA fine you. You know so I had that I had that plane for me I was. I held out getting married in kids for a long time. So I think that plays a huge role as well. I had a lot more freedom when I was younger and I did what I wanted to. I. You know I, see an ad call go out there and get it. I didn't have to answer to anybody I. think that plays a big role to you know and it's worse than prices, tons of those cars out there and they were just. They weren't worth anything. They were cheap. They were dirt. And everywhere at least where I was. Those things are just you know you're. Those kinds of stars don't align anymore. You know not only for me, but for anybody it's like they're not plentiful anymore you know even these rural places a lot of these. Guys like me or other guys, flippers and stuff they've gone into these places in clean them out. You know these neighborhoods are these. Farms or whatever you know all that stuff is there out there I'm not saying they're not out there but they're not as plentiful as they were when I was doing it. You know you know they're definitely still out there because I'm surprised every week somebody. Finds a nice little collection like the guy that Mike Coffee knows. oh. Yeah. The. Charger five, hundred in the. coronet RTD the Hemi Challenger I. I saw that and I just I just wanted to crawl into a hole in die like how come I never find anything like that but. You never know where they're at and there was another A fine where the old vintage car hauler, the had the challenger on it the The. I think it was just an se challenger but there's a famous car trailer off the side of the road that had a bunch of cars on it, and the owner for the longest time wasn't willing to sell them. Well, I know that Ryan brought the auto archaeologist had documented the cars. and. The owner finally, let it all go. I don't know the entire story but. You know was on that was all over instagram of these guys own these cars out. So wow, shout out to all the real mo hunters out there that are kidding these guards still i. Cars are still out there and sometimes you know that's another persistence thing. You know there's that car that you've been watching for years that. is been sitting there. They're either going to get to it or you're eventually going to be able to buy. You just have to be ready. You know what? It's been a long night. I next time we talk. Let's talk about that very topic. 'cause I got a I got a story. I'd like to talk about on that where it's like. The ones that got away And not being ready not being. Ready. Absolutely. Before we before we sign off tonight, Johnny can't I. Know You know about the? Project. We've learned that it's going to be a sixty eight. Dodge Dart superstock tribute car with a modern Hemi. What direction would you like to see the car go? it's going to have to be drag racing for me I. Just I love dry cars. So I I know there's A variety of options for road course or you know or whatnot. My votes for dry car. It's definitely GonNa be it's definitely GONNA be a drag car. There's no doubt about it. They're actually the plan is to get the car build after all the votes It's GonNa. Be All voted on by the moped community. So we're GONNA choose drive train paint suspension I think we're GONNA choose the seats I mean the whole car is going to be built on votes and it's going to eventually compete and be tested at the Modern Street Hemi shootout, which is all modern Mo- powered Cars drag racing so. Basically. Once we get the color nail down we get to the engine stuff and you can go from five seven all the way up to six four, and then you've got the the hell cat engines, and then do we want to see a supercharged engine a turbocharged engine nitrous engine you know there's a bunch of different. Latch for up to choose from that's what I'm hoping. Yeah and from what I know I, know there's going to be definitely a forced induction option. I'm curious to know like for me. I really wanted. It to be a straight replica of the sixty eight superstock dart with just a modern Hemi in it just so I could see what it would do but then I had to ask myself, you know what would I would I want it to be turbocharged but As much as I like forced induction I really WanNa see what the absolute ceiling is for six point four Hammy. You know it'd be stroked out or whatever, but I would just want to see what the, what could absolutely do to that and compared to the old hem because the old days. I mean they rated a factory while four, hundred, twenty, five, horsepower. There are more closer to five hundred but the. Superstock art I think that was closer to five fifty or six hundred horsepower on when it was all said and done with all the tuning and stuff that the guys did but they were running you know low tens high nines. curates to see what? Just a same exact car with the modern power plant would do I. Think it'll I think it'll get in the low nines. Yeah. That'd be cool. I mean. For me as far as which himmy I I would prefer to stay away from like the hell out just because that's that strikes me as being a little more out of reach for the average guy I would try to stay more. You know what could the average guy by what could they could the average guy get and maximize the power out of it? So I think the six four would be. Awesome choice you know I kinda. I'm a little torn because you know my preference would be. Do it all old school as much as possible. But since we're in the context of this is going to be modern him stuff You know turbos have been kind of like you know you you see turbos on you know I'm drawing a blank on the street racing stuff but street outlaws and stuff. Yes. Street outlaws and stuff like that. It's like and you don't see a lot. You don't see a whole lot of Mo-, pars ever pop up on there. So I would I would be really interested to see Turbat like I have no idea. Personally like how to set up a turbo on an engine you know and how do you tune it and what's involved with it like there's no roadmap for that I've seen anyway I'm sure their shirts out there or somebody's probably done it but be Kinda cool to say, okay here's an old school Mo- par there's a six four Hemi. This is what we use the turbo. We got this how much it costs. This is how we played it. This is how we tuned it. This is how the electronics work on it you know and boom. The. Awesome. Having nine second car car dip into the nineties. You know if that's possible whatever. Even if it's in the tens, it's still like a pretty fast freaking car. It'd be nice to know what? What it takes to make that happen will I do know that I do know the class the they're going to run the car in and this is on Hemi pages dot com my friends over a Hemi pages in ready chassis are building this car. But you can go to build Mo- par Dot Com to make your votes in see what's happening to keep up today with the project. But I do know that they're going to be in the I believe it's super pro a fifty. Class. So I mean. They're not messing around. Yeah. So It's GONNA be. It'll be tough to hit that I. think within all motor six four I would like to see it but I mean, I, completely agree with you seeing what six four can handle with the turbo. Man That would be fun and I don't think it'll have any problems you know. Being. Competitive because. You look in some of these hot rod issues with. I've seen a couple darts with modern heavies that are turbocharged. Making some serious power in they're running you know eight second quarter miles so. We'll see what happens. But yeah, it's GonNa be very interesting and the best part is we can all vote on it. Yeah, we don't have to spend any money in the budget for the car. Is Right around thirty five thousand. So. Thirty thirty, five, thousand. So I mean. Is it. For the average Joe I mean. I would say yes and no because most people. You. Know that are you know I would say blue collar middle class could probably go out and buy a challenger. You know a new challenge for forty grand or whatever. So thirty five thousand isn't that far OUTTA reach for the average guy so I think it's I mean especially when you're building a race car. Yeah I, think to you know If if everything is sort of documented, you know this is this is where we got the parts. This is what it cost. You know. Even though you may not have thirty five grand to build a car you could take elements of this like you know it's like aright the paint job cost ten grand I don't need that. You know. Just. I just knocked ten grand off the price you know or or whatever. Maybe maybe it's a they're pulling a turbo off of some car in the junk yard versus buying a brand new on or something you know and it's like well, is it will do the same job so I could save a few bucks there but. You know I think just the fact that they're doing it in your kind of. Lane this roadmap I think I think everybody can get on board with it and see how it's done and then take elements from it for their own builds. You know not have to necessarily do a cookie cutter of it. If the guy's got the money to do cookie cutter, it's like, yeah. Eight and a half second car. Sure I'll just do it exactly. The way they built it. You know. But the if the guy's budget is not quite that big, it's like I'll take these elements versus those elements and Everybody thinks they can do something a little better or a little cheaper here in there so. It'll be fun for all of us to watch. That's a great point, and actually that is one of the best parts about this project is that they are going to document the entire process. Yeah, and lay it all out for anybody. So I mean exactly what you're saying is you can look at all the planning say I don't need the fancy paint job I don't need the fancy you know. Right dollar racing wheels whatever. Yeah You can kind of build the car. Based, on their guidelines as far or their their technical instruction. So right, it'll. It'll be really fun to see what happens I'm just glad it's a dark. Yeah. Yeah. That one was for me I was really happy to see that happen. lot of choices. So am I I mean I think I, told you it's like if it were. Sixty eight to seventy body if that were an option in there. Yeah. That would that would have been game over that would have been no fair. Yeah. But I but I was cars are also really expensive in that would add our a lot to the budget to you know so. I hope I hope there's more build mobile projects in the future. So they can kind of expand things out I would love to. What other crazy concoctions The Mo- Park community could come up with but. Yeah build moped dot com for all you guys out there and gals listening that Know Mope aren't they WANNA see drag target built in kind of help guide the process that'll be really fun. But Johnny were over two hours buddy. Yeah. Once again, I know. Let's do this again soon. Right Yeah I'm down I still got A. Ton of stories to tell. So it's always fun just shooting the Shit and you know Screw Ellen war stories how it used to be I'm sure there's a lot of guys out there. That are like, yeah. I remember those days when you could buy a mope offer a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks or sixty five dollars for Khuda. I every day, I think please just give me one cheap Mo- par. So I can. I can have content for this podcast for. Years if I can get one her a hundred bucks. I, don't know a thousand bucks is pretty cheap nowadays. It's pretty cheap I let it slip through my fingers I lost the. Dart I lost the thousand dollar charger and you know. What really worries me is that I'm going to buy the car and I know this shouldn't worry me. As like okay I'll spend. Let's say by the charger per thousand bucks. Two weeks later, road runner comes up running and driving in the guys. is eight hundred bucks. I'd probably take I would find the money. Don't get me wrong, but I was like. I got this charger to needs all this work but. I never worried about that man I always I always figured. I could always sell it. You know and I did I mean most of the time when I sold them? It was By another car by different cars so Yemen, that's just the way it is but I think that's a Mo- par thing I think. Is just. Because there's so many cool. MOPE bars. You kind of want one of everything that you're interested in and for me it's every. So that's yeah that's going to be a problem for me financially. No. Problem for me to. You don't know how much shit I get from my friends. Don't you sell all of them and build one nice one. Shut up. All right johnny once again Johnny moped. We'll talk again soon. All right buddy. Sounds Good Chris, you take their. Later, no Mo par left behind folks sir. Boom thanks to my friend Johnny Mo part for joining me on these last two episodes I always enjoy talking about parts with my friends. But before we put the pedal to the metal here, I want to remind you to go check out build par dot com as of right now, the moped theseus votes have been tallied for the last two rounds. Of the build moped project and we the people have chosen a nineteen, sixty eight dodge DART superstock tribute car painted in Burgundy iridescent more rounds of voting are heading our way. So be sure to stay tuned for those. There you have it folks. Another episode of talking about is in the books for more information about this podcast or listening subscribe to the. Show please visit talking Mo- parts. Dot Com and don't forget that you can send me your stories, questions, comments, complaints, suggestions, and everything else on your mobile addicted mind to Chris at talking mopeds dot com or leave me voice message on my voice mailbox at two zero, nine, twenty, eight to hear yourself on the show folks we also have merch. Now. In the about merch shop, you can purchase cool things like t shirts, hoodies, stickers, mugs, and more. So if you WANNA help support show and get some cool stuff at the same time jump on over to talking DOT com. That's it. My friends until we talk again I am your host Chris Albrecht and that was talking Mo- parts direct connections. Thank you for listening to talking parts your direct connection to all things. Until. Next time. 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Sriracha Syndicate Splits: Hot Sauce King Suing Supplier

Business Wars Daily

05:15 min | 2 years ago

Sriracha Syndicate Splits: Hot Sauce King Suing Supplier

"Business wars daily is brought to you by net. Sweet the business management software that handles every aspect of your business in an easy to use cloud platform net sweet has a special offer for listeners of this show at net sweet dot com slash BW daily. Be sure to stick around to hear more about it at the end of the show. From wondering, I'm David Brown, and this business wars daily happy Friday, everyone, we all know that one friend who can hardly eat anything without a dose of hot sauce on top. Heck, it might even be you. And if you're addicted to the spicy red stuff, the likelihood is it's Saracho from who he fogged foods, you know, the red bottle with a green cap that shows up on grocery shelves and diner tables everywhere. CEO David TRAN began making hot sauces in Vietnam in nineteen seventy five relatives delivered. The products to local buyers by bicycle for years later, TRAN fled Vietnam, Taiwanese freighter called who he found eventually making it to the US naming the company after the freighter TRAN began selling his sauce out of buckets to Los Angeles restaurants today, who he fogs Saracho has a rabid cult following. And it holds about ten percent of America's one point six. Six billion dollar hot sauce market. So says Anna Amir the hot sauce analyst for research company. Ibis squirrelled who knew you could grow up and become a hot sauce analyst. Well, you knew it was coming things are heating up in the hot sauce business. We fog and its longtime pepper supplier Underwood ranches have sued each other for millions Underwood which was we found so pepper supplier. For almost thirty years is said to be launching its own Saracho Saracho by the ways at type of sauce like the word catch. It's not a brand name who fond claims that Underwood's suddenly stopped supplying the peppers it relied on its lawsuit. Claims Underwood owes we fog more than a million dollars in overpayments, and that it is unlawfully keeping seven million dollars in Queant in a counter suit Underwood claims, we breach some contracts causing Underwood financial distress and been assessing delay off more than forty workers. The producer was left with acres of excess specially grown. Peppers couldn't sell elsewhere. What else to do but launched some competitive heat now who fog at least as flaming Underwood on Twitter. And in the press and customers are responding Saracho is so popular that fans are pledging loyalty on Twitter that might not come as a surprise for a brand that's inspired everything from cookbooks to Saracho flavored ice cream to Halloween costumes, but the brand has also drawn fire before in twenty thirteen the city of Irwindale, California where it's factory sits shut the company down temporarily. Some local residents had complained that fumes from grinding millions of pounds of ripe red jalapenos into a chili garlic paste recording respiratory problems. But that suit was dismissed how hot this case will get will become evident in court at the end of the month. In the meantime, aficionados just wanna make sure that their precious condiments supply won't be threatened. Hot sauce analysts consider Saracho, a discretionary. Product fans disagree. They seem to say just try to rinse it out of my hot little hands. From wondering this is business wars daily. This week's episodes were written edited and produced by lane Appleton brand Emma Cortlandt is our editor and producer our executive producer is Marshall Louis created by or non Lopez or wondering, I'm David Brown. We'll see next me. Every company battles challenges as they grow updating manual processes, replacing inefficient systems getting a handle on cash flow as you scale, you'll need software that can handle that growth introducing net suite by oracle the business management software that handles every aspect of your business in an easy to use cloud platform with nets wheat, you can save time money and unneeded headaches by managing sales, finance and accounting orders, and HR instantly right from your desk or even your phone right now net suite is offering you valuable insights to overcome the obstacles that are holding you back for free. Those insights come and guide called crushing the five barriers to growth. All you have to do to get it for free is to go to nets wheat dot com slash BW w daily again, get net weeds guide crushing the five barriers to growth when you go to net sweet dot com slash b w daily. Now. One more time net sweet dot com slash b w daily.

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Carbon Fiber Challenger Hellcat + Fox Body Mustang

CarCast

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Carbon Fiber Challenger Hellcat + Fox Body Mustang

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With key co visit key co dot com slash car casting get your first crate free. That's key co dot com slash car. Cast Kiko Kiko dot com slash car. Casket your first crate free. These are pretty cool. I saw one of these over there the other day, they're pretty neat. Good projects that do kids. Get your hands on teaching it along. Along. You need a kid now. So you can get a cheese. I'll just borrow somebody. Borrow somebody's kids. All right. So we had a lot of cool things. I was working on my car this weekend. I wanna get into some of that stuff. But I don't wanna hesitate any longer if you guys have been following the social media, you saw bills post, and he got a special UPS delivered package probably not UPS maybe reliable or something like that reliable carriers. But man, you got the speed core car. Delivered. I don't even know where to begin. And you know, just I get down on my hands and knees and bow to those guys 'cause anything that I am Agean that they were gonna do. I mean, it surely is project is is going like fifteen different different ways after they got it. I never imagined. You know, what the end result would have been because of my first initial build idea was just why in the car here and the story so all the carbon fiber, and the the the paint that they did too and the attention to detail and upgrading the engine. You know, bigger police bigger injectors I can hear every ounce of that fuel going. Every time. I step on that throttle that this car is unbelievable. I was like a kid, you know in a candy store yesterday. Oh, not to mention they delivered at foon agains, and we shot out there. Obviously in going there you want to put on the best display possible. And and it sucked for me because I'm taking you know, I'm receiving a new car. I surely not gonna beat my new car up. I've been waiting for this thing for so long. But yeah, over there, you got a man, I I played the man. It's my hand, and you clean this fricken car after I do. You know, you you've seen it before. And so, you know, I went out I did a little bit of a bird that wasn't anything spectacular. Fortunately, dave. And Corey, you know, they brought another car for me to have a little bit of fun. And and it was a customer car, and I really didn't get the full story until I blew both the rear retires almost. And it's like, yeah. You know, it was I think I've made up for the lack of Kahane's in my car. Because like I said, I'm not, and hey, let's let's be honest. It was raining yesterday hours from my house, and I had MTO ones all the way around on that car. Yeah. If I burn most things off, I'm skating, all the way home in six feet nine hundred forty horsepower. You know, I had to use a little bit of sense. I had to look for it. You know, but I found a tiny bit and I use it. But that demon the demon that I. Hundred horsepower, Whipple, supercharged stuff fricken carbon full carbon-fiber monster. And I thought they just brought it, you know, for they I thought they knew what I was going to do. I was gonna take livery by car. I was going to do in tiny burn out. And then put it to the side, and you know, like my wounds, but so I thought that they brought this thing for me to have some and they did. But they didn't give me the full story. Like, I said until I I'll post some pictures and the videos are gonna come up probably the next couple of days, but. You know, my my. Higher Tuesday post this morning or yesterday on Instagram. You know, those are strings of rubber coming off of the right rear the left rear. We didn't even film, but it was the exact same way and those parameters. Just absolutely went to crap. And I thought the left rear blue. And that's why stopped but turns out that you know, that this is a customer's car, it's really carbon-fiber, and I went out, and I look at it. And I mean, look, you know, I mean, if was my car, I detest. I was as a remorseful as I as much fun as I had. I was that remorseful. What I did you didn't. Car. I thought it was just one of their cars or yeah. Yeah. I didn't really. I mean, I didn't get the full story. I didn't really grasp it just went out. And I had a lot of fun. And at the end of the day, they go number one. They they were greatly appreciative because it makes the product but exclamation Mark on the product. So they assured me that the owner would be ecstatic about the video and that would supersede anything any cons medic damage because all off. They can be cleaned. It's all it's. But it was it was it was awesome. And that car is stick Acura. And I I mean, I've got a plethora of these vehicles. And and I've never had the looks that I have had driving of them as I drove this thing back from Irwindale yesterday. Okay. So. Speed car came by they brought the twelve hundred horsepower Whipple supercharge demon that was the customer car you had a little fun with that. And they brought your car which was a six peed. Hell cat and Ridgely six feet night to six change sixteen held cat. Okay. Nothing special about it. Except for the fact that you know, it had w Span's done to it, which we spoke about me upgraded. Bear breaks. You know, madman flow had done their thing to it. So other than that, it was fairly tame, you know, okay? This is the car that you had at Sima last year with with Magda flow right at versatile cat purchased. Right. And so it wasn't wide-body. It was the regular. It was the regular body because I wasn't the wide-body out yet. And what color was it originally? What does it start? It was it was originally black is black. So you're gonna black. That's right. I met, you know, rap on. That's right. I remember that. And the speed core guys. They got a hold of it. And they did a full carbon body conversion all the pieces that they make. I don't think they do the doors not all of them. Okay. So that's why I was if I would've gone the entire way, you know, full carbon carbon-fiber, you know, first and foremost that that's a boatload of money. Yeah. I don't I don't really need to spend on that vehicle because I have a number of them. And they it's just it's not something. I would do. Okay. They did they did the hood front fenders. Yeah. They did the hood the front fenders splitter there the a rear wing the underside of the of the rear Valance. Yeah. And then the rear deck and the side panel. Nls on side of you know, the lower trim. Okay. Next the front and the rear. Yeah. Yes. Sort of. Area under flares and offender players. Yeah. So it was it was kind of a module Nuys carbon-fiber, but you know, midnight black or whatever destroy or whatever color. It is. Okay. So it was kinda disjointed. So I needed them to do some of their magic with the paint and blend everything in and make it make it look good. You know? I was gonna ask flow. What do they end up painting? And and what's raw carbon-fiber or how do they do it? Did they paint some and leave some wrong, and then clear coat the whole thing. Like, we had some gloss coated. Some clear voted excuse me, some saddens some gloss. And then they did the dodge insignia, you know, the emblem on the on the the ghost emblem on the fenders on either side. Chevron, the Chevron stripes. Right. Those on there. Okay. So they did those and. Is so some of the carbon fiber is painted. Some of the carbon fibers painted the front both front fenders. Okay. All right. That's going to be fantastic. So you put the quick little video up of pulling the cover off of it. But I'm sure as by time you guys listen to this. We'll probably have some more photo's out there. But. And then you you were with the Hoon again guys. You guys are unveiling some kind of video or something to go along with this. Yeah. I don't know when they're going to post it. I know speed cores got a video of it. Also, I was I was so getting I didn't shoot. The thing I shot was that unveiling I shot a couple of pictures of the car when I got home. But I I was so excited yesterday. I I didn't wanna camera in my hand. I wanted to live in the moment. And you heard it on that video. So every day we heard it there. So. And then you were saying that they didn't do a lot of engine Mods. But they they they swapped out the blower poli to give it a little bit more boost did attuned to make it all work, and what kind of horsepower, do they say you should be making no did injectors to help airflow their change the box or flow box. Okay. I, you know, I'm I'm gonna wait for days and Corey to give me, you know, exact numbers. But we're I overheard them talking, you know, nine hundred wheels. Wow. That's a pretty big jump from from just lawns. Wow. So you picked up the car in Irwindale 'cause you guys were filming. And then do you drive? It home. Hell, yeah. I drove it. And I was in Radic rain with you know, my, but a little pucker for sure. But just you know, and I didn't even listen to the radio on the way home, not one note. Right listened to that engine. It's my my son does a great imitation of it. It makes it quite annoying after awhile. But the thing is it's it's to my here, man. It's music to your ears, and it's just violent. That's all it is violence. It's not a pretty sound. It's just it's a sound that it's like a devouring now, and it already had the magnet flow exhaust like you said it had the bear breaks and the and the the K W suspension on it. What wheels are on it? Now that it has the speed core. Carbon-fiber wide-body. Well, it's awesome. Because if you remember the different iterations of my project, jackhammer and agree and the essay demon things were the original wheels that age are read, and I started our relationship out with and I ended up taking them off the demon, you know. Right. I I don't know how happy they were about that. But I had a plan. And and I knew that they would look great on this car. And so I'm I'm thinking to myself that they're probably a little bit happy that they ended up on this car is opposed to the demon that everybody's got. Because I don't know how many people have this. Why body, you know, carbon-fiber nine hundred power hell cat up there? So I think they I think they look much better on this car that look like they were just meant for it. I'm going I can't wait to see more of the photos and get some detail shots and stuff. And I'm I'm sure when when you when you get a chance to breathe you'll you'll be able to spend time in and shoot some more photos of the car and really sort of admire it notice all of the details at that star. You're still picking up on right now. But I'm curious to know if you felt like there was any real difference in driving, and obviously the power. Our huge -solutely huge that car, you know, and after not driving it for such a period of time, and and driving the hell out of the, you know, out of my my charger and the Red Eye, which the two cars, I've been trading with this car after the suspense was done. After the brakes done after this engine was upgraded, and you know, the aesthetics this thing drives like I mean as tight as it can be I can't wait for you to drive this. Yeah. For it being the boat that it is modem, quote, forty three hundred pounds forty three fifty whatever I mean, hopefully, I'm forty fifty or something right now. But and hopefully, the the seats from spark oh, light up a little bit more. That's right. You can act that car is. Absolutely. It's fantastic. It dry. It reminds me. Me of an updated, y you know, wanders race target transam feels the way we built that car. It's feels like a two thousand nineteen version of that car. Yeah. That's cool. That's good. I I'm wondering if the weight difference is noticeable or not it's tough to say, it'd probably cut about one hundred pounds. But man, it looks bad ass, and what I've seen of it. So far, it is pretty cool. And if if if this turned out anywhere near like, the products that you know, the cars that that speak or has been building for people. Their stuff is nice. They're doing just honored to be a part of it. You know, and one thing led to another Dave has a very subtle way. And saying, oh, we we've got something else. Little. Yeah. You know, I'm like well can be. Oh, yeah. We got one. Right. I'm sitting right over here you go on. So I mean, one thing leads to another to another and that car is going to end up being shipped back to speed core. Because the the demon that I drove had a custom cage in it. That was just awesome. And they conveniently have two of them sitting, you know, one of them waiting to be installed in my car. And then they're a couple of other things some carbon fiber inserts on the doors, and you know, couple of knickknacks that are just you know, they do they do ring brothers. You know, style work they do job. I know they're friendly with them are they in Wisconsin speed car. Yeah. Thai. Remember because I think they do a lot of work with ring brothers. And I've seen some of the the ring brothers design ideas in the course speed core card as well. So I think those guys are all working together, which is which is fun because you know, Mike and Jim ring there, I love to just the nicest guys ever. So when I got a chance to meet Dave from speed core over at spring fest. It was just a pleasure. And he and I spent some time in walking through the carbon fiber charger that he had the sixty nine charter we spent a little bit of time walking through that whole car and just the attention to detail and the stuff that they've done. It's just been. It's just so fantastic. Just his CAD work and three D, printing and stuff. He's machine did metal and stuff. He's printed in like, a different types of plastic. And and things like that are just. Really, cool, man. I'm glad you're excited about this. I know you wanted to get the car back. I these projects never end. So they're always kind of ongoing projects, which is which is fun. And we've we've got the show to talk about that kind of stuff, but you should have the car for a little bit player around with it have some fun with it. And then you're right. It'll probably go back to speed core or something like that to get a few things on it while, but you got plenty other toys over there to keep you distracted. In the meantime. Ronning too because on the way up and I hadn't spoke to him in a little while. But hell guys called me. Yeah. They asked about the end. They said, hey, we still twin? Turbo in your your challenger, your health cat challenging and I'm like, oh, well, you know, I'm kinda on my way up ticket up right now. And I did a little engine upgrade. So it really doesn't need it. But hey, how how how do you feel about doing a four-door? Yeah. Looks like it looks like it looks like the old chargers going to get a little twin turbo action. And I may have to cars seem as right now. So oh. Oh, a busy busy early. November. Those guys that those guys are in New Mexico. All right. Well, that's interesting. Oh, so yeah. All right. I wanna ask you about the charger and a second. I let me tell you guys about continental belt if you think of all the weird things that you find in cars, I'm gonna talk about French fries or melted. Crayons things. Live snakes bizarre trinkets, the stuff that really makes you wonder about folks. Well, another thing that'll make you wonder continental belt. But a bet you didn't know that their e millions of Chrysler Dodge Ford, BMW VW and GM vehicles and continental has launched the aftermarket multi v belt with this e pedigree. It's their e technology series of belts. They are fanatically engineered for perfect fit form and function for ninety eight percent of the vehicles on the road in the US and Canada continental technology series multi belt the belt with the e pedigree. Get the full story at OT technology series dot com. All right. So. Spending a couple more minutes on this was you were kicking around the idea at one point of maybe selling the charger that you have now because there's going to be a wide body or potentially a redeye coming out and then. I think we even had a conversation about the the older model. The the the dodge truck wasn't ram at the time dodge s RT ten pickup trip, which caught your eye as well as another potential idea. Which is fine. Sure. I want to say my brother used to have one of those. I think my brother had an RT ten for a year or something like that. And he loved it. It was fast. It was bad ass. It was aghast guzzler for sure. But. Properly this. Right. But it seems so but now you're thinking keep this challenger turn it into a project. But I'm sure once you get your eye on on one of the wide-body charger. Sorry charter rather probably add that to the lineup as well. We need to talk about building some more garages over at that place years. I know man, it's it's I'm not considering complain about it because sweep play limit hell have. But the Bill a couple more coming into this year for sure there's no doubt that I'm going to do that to the charger the seventeen jour-jour. I got you know, makes it it's it's it. Win the wide-body charger comes out and it sits in the garage. It's gonna. It's I'm not gonna to drop to the skinny tire car anymore, quote, unquote. Like, I said, you know, six months ago a year ago about the challenger, and it's the same progress kinda, and it's the same thought process as opposed to getting rid of it. Then you know, why not enhance it and make it something special. So that it's it's an option like every other vehicle you have to drive, you know, it's cool as the next one. So why not do something different? Yeah. Why not are the speed court guys working on carbon-fiber pieces for the charger? Yes. Yes. I was thinking about shipping. The I was supposed to ship them the package up and ship them the hood today. But I don't think me going to the airport with no hood on. My charge is going to be very good. So that's going to have to wait until I get back from right? That's right. You got more to do. You gotta go make somebody I got through to support these crazy. Have it? You got going on? Let's fantastic. I'm glad you're excited about this car. It's such a cool project and glad it turned out. Well, which is what you know. I appreciate it. And you know, every once in a while, and, you know, this more than anyone every once in a while you need that kick in the ass of project that kinda goes in a good way in which so that you can get in that vehicle, and you can relax, and you can not worry about you know, it overheating this or. Down and just take it to our drive and have nothing happened. And just go, man. This is what this is all about this brings me back to the joy of these. I can I can't wait for that. I got hey, I've had the issues that you've had drought years T, you know, but it's just nice to have one that those in a very positive direction and reminds you of lie you're doing what you're. Yeah. That's that's the next. That's the next goal is. I have these other project cars, I've got the Mustang. I'll give you some updates on that the m three which were still trying to figure out what the plan is going to be. I think we're gonna do ProVia fi swap on it. And I keep chatting with my buddy. David just go about it. And it's kinda his call. He's he's of the mastermind behind this. And and sitting at his house, so. He's a good, dude. And I and I trust him more than anybody on on this project. But you know, he's he's got a job and a life and a girl, and he's got a he's got to figure out. He's got to come back to me with with a little bit of a schedule. And he's like we could work on the car. But also, you know, I got I got a new door to put on my house. And I've got he's got his Toyota Supra that he's working on as well. He's doing a whole rebuilding the engine in that thing. So he's got projects going on as well. So I appreciate the help from him. But that's where the m three is right now. I think we're going to get that dialed in at some point. But I'm taking that off the list as a daily dryer 'cause I don't see it happening soon. Fortunately, for me, we've got a nice little schedule of of car. Bad ass cars. Everybody gives you the drive because you you critique them so well, so well, y complain about a daily driver when you're driving a Uris one week, and a frigging GT are that actually we're on the I think we're on the schedule for the years, but there's a couple of weeks here. And there have a Homer I end up in a Ford, Focus or Toyota, Yaris rental car. But. I've got right now. The Nissan GTRI track addition couple of weeks ago, he drove GT our premium that gorgeous blue now, I've got the bright red track dish in which has the lighter weight race wheels on it has the carbon-fiber deck lead carbon fibre wing a little bit different tune suspension, by the way, I wouldn't say I noticed any real difference in in ride quality with the suspension. If this thing has better performance better track numbers when you get it out there. They've they've done a good job because I'm literally driving the GT are back to back with the GTRI track addition and on the freeway driving that thing around. I don't really notice that much of a difference as far as bumpiness or anything like that. I think writes great. So I've got that. Now, the GT are and I just got scheduled in a couple of weeks like two weeks, we're going to try to the the new Ford ranger. We've got a crew cab four by four ranger. And we've talked a lot about it. And you know, again, we we had these discussions. It's a size of truck that fits a certain a certain crowd. It's probably not something Bill. You would use. You'd probably have a hard time fitting it begetting comfortable in it. And then, you know, the ranch and stuff that you have there. This isn't the type of thing that that would would make sense down. There want has got what two fifty or something like that? Right. She's got a big truck neither confirm or deny that as a as a dodge guy chances are she's got that at a Range Rover and whatnot. So I want to try out the Ford ranger. I wanna talk a little bit about that. And then. After that, we have the new accurate NS X. And then after that the NSF is shorter loan. And then after that, the McLaren seven twenty s spider Eiloz twenty gauge is going to be so envious of you. Oh, you know, I'm gonna have I'm doing an interesting trip with this car. We're doing thing with with Ritz Carlton Laguna gal. So well, we're going to take the car down and do sort of a weekend there and take it out photograph, do some fun stuff. So we're not that far from you guys compared to LA. We might have to plan something to get together. So cage check out the car as well. The seven twenty as you bring it bring down your all blow the doors off the McLaren with the new car. They could be an interesting side by side. Let's see. It'd be really interesting short. Got it is as tack yellow. It's sort of a gold yellow MacLaren they're sending over, and it's going to be interesting to say, the least I have some issues with yellow cars. Here's the thing you show. Come on, man. I mean, you you're driving a car that everyone in the world's going to look at. Anyway, why it'd be ghetto? Well, his is this has been my argument for so long. It's like you can pull up and Ferrari three sixty or even a three five five or something. Cool. And EMMY like it looks good and yellow, yes. But go look at it. No, most any other color and tell me if it's not better the yellow is fine. I just can't. I just can't fall in love with the yellow. And the funny thing is is the Lamborghini Uris. The new SUV, it's they made the press vehicle one of the press vehicles. I think Motor Trend has it right now as we speak. They made it yellow and people keep going it looks like a Pontiac Aztec. Don't get me wrong. I think this SUV is going to be fantastic. I think it's gonna be fast, and it's going to be awesome. And it's going to handle, and it's going to be it's going to sound good. But if all the comparisons with the Bonny gas, tag why? Make the press vehicle yellow which everybody is photographing like I saw on the road that was black and it was bad ass. And I think I saw one that was like a dark like dark metallic like maroon red, I think that. And that looked bad ass as well. So I'm gonna go every other color other. When that car looks probably about probably looks that ass, but it's a it's an interesting SUV. So I don't have it exactly scheduled yet. We're on the list for it as well. But that's that's what we've got coming out. We've got a handful of here's a footnote, we gotta meet and Laguna gal because I'm. What's my favorite car in the world? Got to be done for ninety four. Mclaren ninety four. That's right. The mclaren. Yes. Yes. So so I'm always learning. Learned about the updated versions, and you know, if I would ever by NANDA, it would be that McGrath. So need to come see. Yeah. Look intent you should definitely come up. And and check it out. You know, I had two seven twenty s before the coupe not the spider and absolutely loved it and took it over to my my neighbor. Your buddy in mind. Steve Austin stone cold Steve Austin, what he does is. He gets on Instagram and follows you, and I and I'll post a picture of a car, and then all of a sudden, I'll get textra phone call. Hey, buddy. What are you doing? Hey, that's going on. You wanna come over? Sure. Steve you've got to. You got to. He's such a sweetheart of a guy. He's great. And he's like you got to have Clarence. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of it? It's good. Do you? I'm gonna bring it over. Steve do that. Sure. Sure. The same guy who walks through my garage and wants to buy everything for ten thousand dollars. Yeah. That's the other thing is I sell a friends Porsche GT three. And he's like, hey, get a call. Hey, man. I like that Porsche. Yeah. What do they want for come over come over? What do they want about one hundred thirty eight thousand? All right. I'll call you later. He's out. He's out slow to return. We've got to get Stephen studio. That's what you get back up. Here. We gotta get Steve other studio. I know he wants to come in and do the show with us and bring bring one of his new hot rods little projects that he's got going on. And by the way, he's into it. You know, when we exchanged messages emails tax and phone calls. He's like ice like this car. What's the paint code for this? And who do you think can do the work and like he's he's getting into it more. And he's having fun with these things that I love that about him. So cool to watch it, isn't it it is you could see that. He's having a good time. And I'll tell you like he we hooked him up with with a PR agency that gave him a couple of off road like GPS. You know, I it didn't come from Jeep came from the company to modifies jeeps and at he's all over it. He's like I. Yeah, I'd love to test it out. He's like I'm gonna drive to Nevada and go off roading in it, and I'm gonna go hunting. And then I'm going to come back. A week. Like he goes on his testing. Yeah. It's fantastic cooed, man. It's it's a passion for him now. And it's a hobby, and it something fun and something he hasn't done before or had the time to do. And like I said, it's cool to watch progression of his, you know, of is I don't know his love for the for the muscle or for the space, man. Yeah. He loves all of these other trucker the beds e twenty eight he he's having fun, man. It's really neat to be able to turn them onto stuff. And I know you've been able to get them into these vehicles, and it's really cool 'cause a lot of fun. I think he's seeing them more like they're they're they're more accessible for him where where he is in his career. You know, he's he's had some success. And he's he's got a little bit more time. You know, you guys when you guys were wrestling, you're on a plane and traveling all the time it's tough to to. It's really tough like for family and everything else. So I think he's got a little bit more time and enjoying things. And he's appreciating these cars more. And having a little more fun with them. And like you said that a little more accessible to him. And and and he's having fun by my point was I did bring the seven twenty over there. So he can take a look at it. And he fit in it. I, you know, I can't say I don't know what you guys are probably never sue for comfortable and any car you big boys. But but he he sat in it. We got some pictures of it. He loved it. He he thought the car was was was fantastic. So. I don't know. I think you should. Tell them the price of that. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't buy it. He was not in. What was his reaction? He he gets. He gets pretty he gets pretty wide and can't believe it. But I mean, he loved it. But I'm like, hey, this is I don't know that was three hundred and something thousand I want to say that the McLaren the seven twenty s spider the way, it's optioned with a bunch of carbon-fiber bits all over it. It's over four hundred thousand the one that Volvo four hundred it's gotta be four seventeen or four twenty something or whatever. But. Anyway, let me tell you guys about geiko. You've heard this before you guys we love Geico over there. Everybody's got a to do list drop. Life your dry cleaning, pick up some milk. And now you can add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list. And you don't have to drop off pick up anything. You just go to Geico dot com. And in fifteen minutes, you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So if you want some extra money in your pocket, this is the most rewarding to do. You can do today. Go to Geico dot com. You think with all this time, we're saving by just going to Geico dot com. We can come up with another ad. More ad copy. I think we've been read that save coffee for three years. Thank you guy. Co for supporting us, we love you guys. I'm gonna make you add for you guys at some point. Before we wrap things up young to give you a little update on the Mustang. I'm glad to get back over into the into the garage and get some work done on it. And kind of here's the plan. You guys we hit Long Beach grand prix, and we were traveling New York auto show and just event after after advant, and and haven't had much time to get over there and to the garage, and and you know, I can't I can't think Adam a noth- for being patient with me. You know that car was at Sima twenty sixteen it came back from the Sema show. And it's been over there in the garage, the whole time doing work went through by the way, I went through and did a lot like, we redid everything. And I'm happy to say did almost everything on that car myself. Now, the full suspension the brakes and everything on that thing. So I'm happy with the way it's coming out. It is on the lift. I know you guys like the bus chops. Is it off the left is on the lift it is mobile have to do is put the wheels on it. And this is spending is all done suspension brakes everything's done on that thing. It's bent on for a while. I've been working on the engine. And I know you guys have heard this before but just to kind of loop back for anybody new listening to ninety three Mustang Cobra, we slapped it all the gather to debut in the Magna flow booth at Sima, I think it was twenty sixteen but it was all just sort of piece together. Nothing fit properly wasn't torqued down. Wasn't. You know, it was just car. It was true Sima car. You got it. Like it barely rolled around like, even you know, the brakes weren't even shinned correctly. So the Padua Rummy against the disc. So it's like like pushing three cars at once. So how we did that we came back when through the whole car redid everything the way it should be done. I'm excited about it. And what happened was is. I have it's meant to be period. Correct modification. So the engine is the original engine with the original GT, forty heads original Cobra intake, manifold, it's all fully ported. I got know custom Cam. And so it's got a lot of Mods to it. But, you know, look at original cast iron heads original intake, it, you know, it's a lot of work has been done to those pieces and we punched out the engine to three thirty one cubic inches from three. Oh to it's three thirty one. We got a nice crank and forged pistons. It's about nine and a half to one compression, and we're going to big pro charger or running a D one SC pro charger on it and a big like ten or twelve I think twelve rid police system on it. So what happened was we put the engine all together? And we used all the normal front engine assessories. The original a c compressor alternator, and has smog pomp and all that stuff. And when we redid the whole exhaust with Magna flow and the new Cadillac converters. You don't even need the smog pump on it. So you start to eliminate that stuff and you end up with like an idler pulley that does nothing, and I was just like why all this crap on the front of the engine, and then the super charger brackets were huge. Stamped metal pieces somewhere were billet aluminum in powder. Coated black and some were stamped metal that we had a powder co black. And I just realized it looked like a mess, and it was fine in ninety three. So I ended up taking all the super charger all the front engine assessories off. And I looked all over the place for a nicer compact system for the front, and I settled on on an Eddie motor sport system. I like what they had and they sent over a package it's an entire front engined assessories kit. It has a two hundred amp alternator it has a tiny peanut a c compressor. It's literally half the size of normally see compressor, which is great. New water pomp, and then it uses a GM style. Power steering pomp, which I swapped out with a high-performance KRC power steering pumps. You have a nice racing. Power steering pump on there with a remote reservoir that I can put anywhere else. So I put all that stuff on there. And it looked so much better. It was far more compact closer to the engine tighter all around it shows off the engine department, much more. They sent it all to me in a raw aluminum. So I can cut and modify and then later send it all out for powder coating so all of that bolted on. But now the supercharge won't bolt on. So I need a custom out the super. So we made a jig Sean over in our shop fabricate over there took a couple of you know, like one inch square tubing. And we made a Jacob cross the engine bay, and then hung the supercharge on it. So I can move it forward and aft, and then I can move it slide the super charger on that bar left rights now, I can place the supercharging wherever I want to and it turns out between the frame rail and the power steering pump. There's very little room where you can kind of move it. So it looks like it's a little far out. But we made this jig to move it around. And then from there, I started custom making brackets started with some foam core got the initial idea of what we wanted and then this week, and I was able to go in and finally take that foam core gets them half inch MDF would and start cutting it up and mounting, the super charger drilled all the holes and mounted the superstar to the piece of wood. And then hung it back on our on our jig and started a lightning where there should go. So now, I have would brag. It's the super charger, and well, we'll sort of refine them and cut them down and pocket them and do all kinds of cool stuff. But the initial would templates now give us an idea of how to take it to the next level should be metal or loom, and we may end up doing a combination of both the superchargers self will probably mount on half inch aluminum. And then there's a bracket on the back that mounts to the cylinder had we made do with steel. And then we'll we'll we'll connect the two brackets together. So it's a it's a pretty nice. It's going to be a pretty nice little system when it's done, but it's all custom. And I kinda love that. So the plan now is I wanna get it running. So I need to do a need to do these custom brackets. And I need to do a custom poli the crank pulley and the super charger. Paulie are usually one big machined piece, and I need to reach out to a company like Yvonne that does all the custom aluminum stuff. And see if they can make a pulley once I get a pulley made and the brackets made then it'll be ready to fire up. So what I'll do is. I'll take the car over to my buddy, Ray McClellan, he owns full-throttle customs, and he is the tuner of tuners, and he's a great builder, and he's a FOX body specialist. He helped me with this car initially when it was going to seem I did a bunch of work on it for me. And he needs to be the guy to fire it up for the first time. So I'm gonna take the car car won't be done. But it will be able to be drivable. I do all the little pieces and take things off and powder coat and polish and all that stuff like that. But he'll go over there. We'll take distributor out will oil the system up in and the engine. He'll do the initial fire up he'll build a tune for the initial fire up, and then from there, he'll refine the tune and get this thing. Dial and and it will be mobile so. I gotta finish the custom work for the super charger and dental over to Ray. And I said, hey Ray. I've I think I'm going to need your help. Getting this thing fired up. He's like the red car from two years ago. I said, yeah, he goes. Okay. I have I have room for another long term project. I was like wait a minute doesn't need to be long-term at your shop. It just been long here side by side, ticker for this Mustang project and my truck. Oh, yeah. I'm telling you. It's it's it's funny. And it's you know, what's funny is when you get into a project, and it takes two three years new products come out. You're like oh that now like that's cool. I wanted to do that. And it's it's. It's interesting. So oh, man. I'm excited about getting this done. I'm glad I got some stuff done this weekend. Getting those those would templates done was it was a huge step forward for me spent Sunday on it. And we're gonna go to the to the next steps. But. Yeah. You got a project to Warren's working on a truck, and you guys are still waiting for. I don't know computer or something. PCM from par. And you know. Yeah. Installation. All all the hard stuff done. We just need something to plug it into. Yeah. Well, there you go. Before we wrap up. I'm going to tell you guys you've heard this PSA before called stop 'cause trains. Can't it can be frustrating. If you're running late to find yourself stuck at a railway crossing if the signals are going, and the trains not there you can feel tempted to sneak across the tracks. Don't do it ever trains going faster than you. Then you expect and it can take a train over a mile to stop. That's crazy. And what used to be your car would just be a crushed hunk of metal? And I can't imagine what would happen to you as well. This is dangerous guys. If the singles are on the train is on its way. Just remember one thing stop because trains can't and told you I think I mentioned before a train operator driver of a train. I would say train conductor, but he told me operator was the proper term, and he sent me photos of of an SUV that got hit by train. Thank goodness the family survive. But man, you do not wanna get tagged by one of these things. I'm telling you that that car was school worst. It's chicken you're never gonna win. Yeah. Don't do it. So anyway, there's that and. Anyway, we're wrapping things up, and I just wanted to mention this as you guys are probably seen the news mope are hit it hard all over the place and the the helath engine. The health in crate engine is now available pricing is twenty nine thousand nine ninety five. That's about ten thousand dollars more than the hell cat crate engine. But the health it makes a thousand horsepower, it's got the huge supercharge on it. We broke down the specs on a previous show. But but I'll tell you this. If you guys go back to some of the some of the videos on stuff that we posted and stuff from from spring fast in the bow par booth at spring fest. They had the Helfen powered charger sixty nine charger their and our body SEL. He fired it up and that thing is like eight. The another term invented for that grading. Yeah. I'm telling you don't expect this thing to to just sit there and island par like like, I dare I say stock hell cat engine, which is seven hundred dollars power. Like like, this thing was an animal, man. This is this is this engine is a beast. And anyway, thirty grand turnkey. I guess with the ECU. I I don't remember if it comes with that or not. But I. Agean? That announcement being made. Now, I'm expecting a we were just talking about. Hey, new products come out. Start changing your build anybody working on Sima build right now has got to be looking at this engine. Right. Not right. I mean to get a turnkey engine. Maybe I don't maybe with a warranty. That's a thousand more. Though, you know. Yeah. That's that's what it stated. Yeah. I know number of people that aren't going to do that. Right. Find the different et rations that. Yeah, let's see what happens CMO with with these things. But it's it's pretty sweet pretty bad. All right anyway. Thank you guys so much for listening. We've had a lot of fun and Bill. Glad you got your car in there. And you guys wanna see it this carbon fiber. Hello cat. You guys. Can't wait to check it out. Be sure to follow Goldberg on on Twitter and Instagram Goldberg Goldberg garage on Twitter Gobert nine five Goldberg's garage on Instagram on there's the the quick video and the firing up on Goldberg's garage, Instagram. I may or may not have dialed that number yesterday for the great. Really? Yeah. All right. We got plenty more to talk about. I'm sure all right. You can follow me at motivator on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, all that motivator. You'll see pictures of the of the Mustang up there, you see my would templates, and it's nice just to be able to post pictures of the Mustang again. Oh and everybody that's following on my Facebook page. I changed my header photo to to the photo in the shop of the Mustang in the shop. And everyone's like, it's awful liftoff lift, congratulations. Now that photo is from three years ago. So it's not often. But I appreciate it. And it looks good. I'm clean. I I just wanted to. I've just going to get ahead of all the comments and the questions right now that phone was a little bit old. But I put it up there as motivation I needed to get it up there and see that thing every time I log in sitting on the nice bonds wheels with the huge bear brakes on it. And and it's good. I'm like John force every time, I talk about you mentioned, all the plugs. We have to write your. All right, guys. Thank you so much for thing until until next week for Bill and Chris keep the air in the spare and the bag in the wheel. For the latest updates and call in times, follow the show on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram at car cast show, if you'd like to write in fill out the form on Comcast show dot com and don't forget to give us a nice rating on items car cast is a Corolla digital production and is produced by Chris Simona. For more information. 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65: More Game of Thrones, Sentient Planets, and the Roswell McDonalds

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65: More Game of Thrones, Sentient Planets, and the Roswell McDonalds

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And I'm here in Los Angeles with Tess Lynch and over a New York, we have as always a Malir Shida, Molly you make game thrones references without even meaning to there's a character called Ren Lee Barath, Ian in seasons one and two of game of thrones your super superfan. It's amazing friend of nightfall starlet kind kept telling me when we went to the run fair together with other friend of Nicole. Jane, Marie on star studied podcast team was like a real. That's like a a meet up of the ages. It's a convention an invention a coven of podcasters, we enjoyed a fried artichoke and baked potato many many festivities were had and like an old world. Just like olden times. It was great. But starry is a big game of thrones fan as we discussed last week. And this time she kept pointing at people and going. Oh, hey, do you like that? I'd be like, yeah. Yeah. That's cute. She then you like game of thrones. That's game of thrones. You like it. It's a compelling argument. It was great. She like pointed as like a girl who was probably like aria addresses our air or something. And she was like, hey like that outfit. I was. 'cause pay. Boom. You're huge game of thrones fan. She got me. I went to the Ren faire. You're halfway there. Do you love you love mediaeval times? Well, you know, like the like, the juxtaposition also of Calica and. Yeah, and stuff there's a lot of people just like wearing sublime shirts at the ran rare. Yeah. There's like a combo people so dressed up and people just wearing a raiders implem-. Like, they do every day. And that's what I love about it. It's beautiful to me. And casual and they have those coast casually. There's no dress code unfair. And they have those things where there's like a bubble that a kid can run around and the hamster ball type. On water could change the lake. Starry had an inquiry for Milady. Yes. We definitely wanna hear Starr Elise. 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I think it's I assuming that you want both these people to die. But who do you want to die more, John donne, snow or Cleese? Cleese Emily who who are you rooting for to die? First of all, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna stall for second hair. Keep everybody in suspense. So and this is with with all of the love in my heart. I watched the last season of game of thrones with the one and only surly kind. I would bring over a bottle of wine to her apartment, and I feel like most of it would be drunk by the time the episode started, and it was really fun. And usually I watch the show by myself. So it was it was fun to have somebody to yell at the TV with then as the season was coming up. I went back, and I was you know, just trying to brush up like remember where we were. And I started to watch the last season before this which was really short. It was like seven episodes or something I did not remember most of the stuff that happened in that season all the rest of the seasons. I think I had watched the episodes at least twice because I was writing about them. So I'd have to go back and see what happened. But I do feel like I miss Darley this time around we became game of thrones buddies. So so I appreciate this question. In more ways than one thinks star Lee makes a strong argument just for watching game of thrones with star Lee. Yeah. Yeah. He's like the most opinionated person to watch the show with. It's it's real fun. She's got takes usually. Yes, she takes. And I like to argue with people whose opinions are like not mine we podcast, but my conversation is fun. So, hey, Donny love it. She's setting you up in some to. She know what you are going to answer. This question already. I don't think she does. But I mean, I don't know if the answer is what she thinks it's going to be. I mean, if I had to pick, and I don't think either of these people are going to die. But if one person is it's probably going to be drawn snow, and I wanted Rachel just looked at me in the most like incriminating. Well, let's just like how to be clear that he has already died and been out back. Yeah. It's a long way he ghosts. No. The Lord of light brought him back because it was foretold that he would, you know, necessarily to be funny host wins the game of thrones. He's not a go. If a ghost word win, the game of thrones doesn't count or do you get like a mulligan? He's not a goes movies Brokeback from the dead. He's Zambia case. Well, there are there are several people who have been brought back till I guess by the Lord of light. And they are kind of like. You're telling me people can die on the show and be brought back immediately. Rear favors, cool show. It's extremely like specific circumstances. Well, like Dan said last week, it's really rare for there to be this kind of magic. But it does happen. But when it happens, it's like to be jerked around by show into thinking that your beloved characters of died, and then a wizard goes, boop. And they're like, oh, they're alive again Harrington. So we meet a lesser character more minor character who's had this happened him before he meet, John snow. So it's not like, we didn't know this could happen. We just knew it was because it has been said I'm gonna answer. Like, I'm heard of you know, I'm here to answer star Elise. I'm going to answer. Charlie's question. I want all of them to die. Cool. Great. All men must die. Yeah. He loved game of thrones. I all the time. All men must die a good volume more Hulas. Yeah. In in the spirit of that. Like, I hope the Jon snow dies. I more than Khalidi. Yeah. I mean, I think it may. Less sense. Like, I don't think it would be very satisfying for Kalisa to die. I feel like the rug is going to be pulled out of her in some way or another. I don't know if that necessarily mean she's going to die. Maybe they're gonna pull that bad rug off her head finally can be like, wow, we have an expensive budget, but the Whigs on show or so bad and unbelievable. The roast master has arrived tasks you're also the row the game of. Warf the roasts more of the roasts neck. Oh would love to host euros. Please higher. I called. Oh. Yeah. Rose hosts where it'd be like the friendliest gentlest forget people have. We we just SU Vida. Warm back. Hus Molly ties, you're also a game of thrones fan. D you have a feeling about this. Who would I whom who would I prefer to die? Jon snow ordinary. Tar garin. Yes. I would prefer John snow to die. Because a he already has and be I. Yeah. I think that like I the only person who saw last night's episode which is now to in the past. If you're listening to this. I feel like I have not been wowed by John, snow's charisma. A while. I'm kind of over it never. I am a as we all know him deniro's fan last night. And this is not a spoiler. But let me just say that there's a scene where they're at a party and denarius is like sitting there looking at everyone. She super paranoid like everyone's gonna take me down. Everyone's talking about me really identified that need to keep her around for that reason. I know that feeling nearest like hit the Bong. And she's just like, I don't know seems like every Cates me here. Reasons. I saw that me about how Jon snow looks just like George Costanza. Yes. Cannot unsee a riveting joust a riveting joust. Indeed, I'm betting on brand brand. I mean, it's clear. You don't watch the show if you're bedding, but I watch veep. And I think veep is going to end with split being president, which is my dream. And I feel like you just always bet on like the person that nobody would bet on. Oh, you mean, you're betting on grand seems to know he's on the way out. Yeah. To win the game. I thought you were betting on. I was like what no third area. Unlike. Molly calls a game of thrones not even brand anymore. Molly. He he's a three eyed raven well brand here of the three eyed snake in nature. Let me know that bring was assigned three hundred gonna win the three eyed snake? Yeah. That is definitely the night. Call mascot of the month. We love it. Moving onto more creepy things. I believe we have an Email regarding Roswell. Yes, we have a somewhat belated but nonetheless, incredibly appreciated Email from Seneca who is a Roswell native while ago. We were asking if there is anybody that listen to our show who is Roswell resident or former resident or native, and yeah, we hear back from you Sonnia, and it was a great Email to get. So I'll just read it he night call pot. I am finally writing even though your first episode wrangled with its whatever time it was in Roswell New Mexico since then there's been a lot of Roswell chats. So I felt I had to write in as a native of the city sees town. I was born and grew up in Roswell and left when I went to college. But my family is still there. So I visit it really is such a small place fewer than fifty thousand people. So it was always really interesting to us. Has children when people come from all over to hang out with the aliens? I'm neither confirming nor denying that. They're still here. I remember our family took a trip to New York win, the Roswell show is at its peak and my sister, and I saw billboard of the show and just turned to each other and laughed the significance is only really hit me as I've lived outside for ten years. And it always starts cool conversations when people realize from their Roswell definitely caters to the tourism. There's a UFO McDonald's the lamp posts downtown alien heads and the main theater is called galaxy eight with a UFO esque front. There's also a UFO museum and people love taking picks of the Roswell city. Limit sign not to mention alien paraphernalia everywhere. And of course, the Afo crash site, which is a little north of the actual city though. I have to admit I've not visited it's a big deal. I appreciate it. And I'm sure Roswell New Mexico does to all send a postcard next time down there. Thank you so much any ah. This is great. I mean, this is sort of how I would imagine it like even the UFO McDonald's that like even the national and international chains will like catch Roswell fever, if they have an outpost there seems very appropriate. Had this made me wanna go to Roswell so bad a lot of things that made us want to go to your house. Well, to be honest, we send I called her else fall. I'm kind of jealous. I mean, I love LA. But like it could use that extra layer of like a weird event. That's not bad. Oh, we have too many weird events with. They're all about what about like a not a neutral weird event to add a layer. It's like a clarity of theme with Roswell. It's like, they're lots. Yes. Desperate LA, and it's all kind of competing for your attention. And you can like ride different wavelengths of of weird Ellie history to go down, and then places to get your picture taken or whatever. But like the fact that Roswell is just all about this one thing is. Yeah. Really pure. I feel. LA doesn't have a central theme or location. It. I feel like it does have like central seems there are few themes. I mean, we also we have some good ghosts ghosts very big fan of our goes, what if you're not what have you don't believe in Elliot's and you live in Roswell. I must be terrible. Not believe in lands. If you live in Roswell, but like, I don't know like not being the protagonist in your own life. No. I don't know just seize the opportunity, you don't think everybody just rebels against whatever town is serving them when they're young. No you yet to go along with it. Otherwise, you're you're out listeners if you live in Roswell New Mexico, and you don't feel like the protagonist of your own life night. Call what's you for? No matter where you live. If you don't feel like the protagonist idol feel like the protagonist. Much weirder starving. The protagonist in a long ties really unnerving when you start feeling. Bull cast the terrible, right? Nothing is better than a non samba movie. One of my theories about game of thrones. That I said to start that. I was like this is why I think game of thrones good is because I like any on samba show that tricks men into carrying about a bunch of female characters by ceding them with an equal number of male character. Which is I think all good on some shows the sopranos like every show, you're like ha you tricked men into like getting involved in the emotional lives of a teenage girl because they won't see what happens with dragons. Yeah. Yeah. So bully to you thrones. Yeah. Bullied. This does make me think about like like not be into the thing that your town or like where you grew up was about like, the feeling of Ilyushin that is very common for for growing up and even place. But when that's at like, if you grow up in a football town, for example, but you like hate football or you just really like, I don't know lacrosse and stuff. But like being being at odds with the thing that your your town is known for. I mean, the the UFO thing is such a strong idea like around that. But I do feel like probably a lot of LA kids grow up feeling really like alien aided from show business or or any of that probably as many kids who who grow up wanna just be actors directors or whatever to. But. Yeah, what about the people who live in Maine, but they're allergic to shellfish? That's terrible. That's worse that honestly because if you believe in Ilyas or not that doesn't affect your ability to appreciate like all the alien kids stuff that goes right in Roswell still better than being from Connecticut where the theme is repression freight get. Yeah. And if you can't do the thing like as I say so eloquently to have the good thing or it's good. Like, I like lobsters in Maine or something. If you can't do that that always feels like a bummer like if you're lactose intolerant. And you live in Wisconsin. For example, exactly. Exactly. Guys think we should take another night. Call this one I've been thinking about this one a lot. Okay. So this one comes from A, m hi Tess, Emily, and Molly, I'm listening tonight. Call sixty three the scary statistic. You cited about twenty two percent of companies using data on their employees movements reminded me that a temporary job. I had at Amena redact this in queens required me to submit biometric data at the start and end of every shift. Here's how it worked after signing my employment contract, a manager told me to stand against a wall in the store. I didn't know what was happening until she had me move my head up and down. And I realized a camera was reading my face we clocked in and out of shifts by putting our faces in front of a scanner and could only unlock slash log into our registers by touching a fingerprint scanner it didn't really matter that I hadn't given my permission to the store security slash surveillance team to collect data because I needed the job. But I still wish they'd offered me a chance to opt out. I'm certain it would never occur to the stores managers that this was a breach of privacy or that. There's any legitimate reason we wouldn't want our biometric information in a security database the scanner sometimes wouldn't work if I wore dark lipstick or took my coat and hat off. Do you? Remember seeing stories several years ago about makeup and hairstyles that could thwart facial recognition tech. I feel like I've been waiting for the anti-surveillance punk Luke to come in fashion since then obviously only temporary solution, but a fun one and wonder if it works. Thank you so much for this. Terrifying. Email I just want jump right in please say, but I just bought one of those face blocker things. Oh, what are they like a full face shade pictures of it? I worked to the run fare hike. It's like the visor that goes all the way down is like I did. I had no idea. What that was posted it visa Veon. Oh, Bianco Serlin. Yeah. Stress one. But they're also just pop. Yeah. It's like big like grandma look in LA like I'm into that will be is that your face is. Did you do it for fashion purposes, did it for sun purposes, those run fair, which isn't super sunny and also found when I've been thinking about getting one for a long time and then night, call friend Karina Longworth had one. And I was like, oh, I totally do on just do it. And then I was wearing it around. And it was like the most amazing feeling because people can't see your face. Yeah. It's incredible. You walk around seems implied. It's it's amazing so-so. Like if you're a woman, especially it's like, oh, men cannot see your face. They can't even see if you're smiling. Right. They like could see your body. But who cares? The kissy your face. It's amazing. I love it. But does does that inhibit your ability to like connect with people? Yes. That's what I point wearing it for a whole. Day kind of amazing because it's like you have this little like bubble around you. Yeah. Yeah. I was like vaping inside of it. I was very hot boxing your own head. But you sort of get a Darth Vader from talking under it voice. Yeah. Do you think it's healthy? Does it breathable? Like is there? Not your. Yeah. I mean, it's just a shade. So yeah. Geyser? It's not gonna key mask or like a or. Yeah. Like a fencing mask or something like that. Yeah. See mascot, also good look. No. And also Jane Marie was like some dudes might just be into that. That's true too horror just body, especially if I'm wearing it on like Star Wars day, and it's a little stormtrooper. But it is really fun do recommend it. If you're going to the beach or something check it out. I don't know how I feel walking around without my face in front of me. You know what? I mean. I I'm an over wear of sunglasses like I wear sunglasses on cloudy days. I started doing it because I squint in the sun, really badly and. It would like hurt my face all day. If I was like, I remember like on snowy days in Iowa. If I was like squinting all day than my face. You got a headache? Yeah. Yeah. So I started wearing sunglasses really obsessively like all the time. I can't leave the house without sunglasses, even if it's raining, and that I feel like affords enough freedom makes you look like an asshole which I also kind of like. I dunno. Nobody's going to really try to talk to you on the train. It's funny. I always I didn't wear sunglasses for like until I was like eighteen or something because I thought they were like pretentious. I have a really hard time wearing sunglasses because the difference between my peripheral vision and my forward vision gives me like a little bit of a vertigo. Imagine a shield that covers your whole face with my problem as Molly knows from hanging out for a longtime at random like corners. I really I liked talking to strangers. It's like it gives me my juice. Not always. I mean, definitely not always. But I've I've kind of like it's become part of the texture of my life that I wouldn't wanna get. I'd be like sad. If people if I couldn't connect with people's faces, but at the same time like this, you know, the sunglasses issue. Well, it's interesting to think about this a facial recognition technology blocker. That's true. I wonder if it work because I love that idea. And also that whole story about getting the biometrics of people at a company super we're not just crazy in clock in it, you stand against a wall. And like the scan your face for you to clock in. It's like what they they're just. It seems like it's all a front and I- redacted the name of the the store where she worked, but it was not like a national security for her. She's not working at Google like we exact much like it's not like huge high security like it feels very excessive. If the if the businesses kind of business at the name makes it sound like, yeah. Yeah. I feel like that all of that tech is really really easily compromised to like, I take a picture of like have a full color scan of your face, and like put it in front of your head and walk in front of the scanner and probably like get away with it. You know? Somebody really wants to take your identity, and it's just your face. Like, I don't know. I like that that facial recognition technology will never be as good as like a crow is right recognizing human. Well. But I mean like we have to say like crows are extremely intelligent superintendent, really intelligent. Yeah. I just think like the idea of putting so much of your identity on your face. Feels like a really like slippery philosophical argument to not only because like everybody gets work done now and stuff, and that's like fairly common, especially very philosophically scary thing when you look on Instagram, and it's like every beautiful person has the exact same face very weird phenomenon. Yeah. What if everybody had no face at all? That would be worse. No think about it. The blink. No. That's like the stuff of nightmares like, wink, Feng cute. Well, this show this. This is my shadow person experience with this. No face. There's no face in dick, Tracy. Yeah. Turns out to be Madonna then spoiler for decreasing. Look it all comes together. We're just talking about dick Tracy last week. All one team. It is all one theme. Well, this this Email was amazing. Thank you so much for. Yes. It was awesome. I wanted to say real quick and kind of on the subject of of guests like future dystopia xtss. In the broad category. I went to Hudson yards today. Like, I wasn't planning on it at all. But I I went to a screening this morning, and I happened to run into a buddy there, and we ended up writing bikes like Iran, I got a city bike, and like I've never biked in New York before because it scares me a lot. But I we biked up to Hudson yards. And for those of you who don't live in New York. Don't know about this. Hudson yards is like this. Terrifying development that now exists basically over the Hudson yards the train yards for for Penn station, and it's really kind of in the middle of nowhere like super super west side midtown. And there wasn't much of anything there before except for the job at center. But now there's like five I think there are five currently hotels condo type, you know, mix use buildings and like a big stupid shopping centre with like a Cartier and a Lululemon in it. And that is what? The Hudson yards is it's the most charmless public space I've ever seen. There's actually a really really good just complete burn of it in the New York Times that came out about the I think the day that it opened just about how like anti-human the spaces. How it's it seems so counter to like the needs of a city like the funny thing is is that the high the high line you near the Highline? Yeah. So it goes up all the way to Hudson yards now. Oh, basically like runs into this wall of steel and glass that just like you one right into the giant skyscraper. And it's funny because I think of the highlight is being something that like is actually pretty humanistic. And like a nice space, even though it's a total people's zoo. Like, it's a nice like thing that they decided to put money into but purpose? The Hudson yards is like totally from this like post human dystopia. It's like. Very there's there's this big thing in the middle of called the vessel. Yeah. That's what people have been concentrating on. That is like it's like an art installation in the middle. And it's literally a staircase to nowhere. Apparently. Really? Yes. So the vessel the crazy thing about this. And this is I'm looking now at this article on curbed, New York the vessels basically made to be a Instagram trap. Because it's so crazy looking it looks like a big like producer Rachel is calling the showroom. I think that's like the nickname that they're working on for people are trying to make that one stick. Because it does look like a meat tornado. But people take these pictures of it, and there are like terms and conditions. If you visit the vessel, which means that you agree that if you go into the structure, okay, when you attentive readers notice that hidden within the cels visitor, terms and conditions which ticket holders agree to. When signing up to climb the structure, there's a clause that more or less gave Hudson yards the right to photos audio recording video footage depicting or relating to vessel for any purpose whatsoever in any and all media in either case now known or developed later. So like, basically if you it a trap. Yeah. You to use? That's why you said it's a sliver. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this. It's a staircase to nowhere that everybody gets like Instagram photos in. I think I read somewhere else that there's photo recognition for it. Like the structure because it's such a unique structure. So that like there's some kind of algorithm that can tell when somebody is taken a photo of of the the vessel and then can use that to use that photo for promotional purposes or whatever they want like the confined photos of it. Just automatically on. So it's super skinny also if the stuff with even at all charming or kind of fun to look at it would be one thing. But it's so ugly all of it. It's so in like everybody goes there because they know that they have to get a picture taken there because it's like the Instagram thing now to get your picture taken there. But like, what do you do like, what is inside nothing? It's just stares. It's literally stairs to nowhere. Honey comb thing of stairs. That's like a kind of half. Like a basket, basically. So you can call their exits. It's a great question. I think so. Yeah. That's my main question about it seems like a death trap. Yeah. I don't think there's an elevator anything in it. Like it's all stairs. So it's not accessible like a water slide that got grounded. You know, it's just like really like it and the super skinny towers in New York that like appear overnight that like oligarchs park their money in right? Are like really really great visual metaphors for. Yeah. We have those too. And like we have way too many of now that you guys also have a lot of New York or those pop up museums than are museum's opening one down the street from where we record here called the museum of fruit that we were getting mad about because it's like the space that used to be an art store, and then it was like recently a Halloween store, and then they're turning it into the museum of fruit, which is like an Instagram thing with different rooms in each room is like a fruit that you take photos in front of it. It's like we need housing so bad leak. This is insane. And then I was in the Beverley center, which is another kind of staircase to nowhere of its own. It's been under construction. For like ten years now like the finished it. But it hasn't like they didn't change anything. It's hilarious. They like just put this kind of Frank Airey great on the outside. And they're like I thought that was part of the construction though, it's on the top floor. It's also like does a weird labyrinth thing to my brain. Because it's the took out the movie theater in the food court. So when I go to the top, and that's not there anymore like we now. Yeah. One thing and it's like being in a video game where you like go down the wrong way. Because you're like, I know something here, but it's not anymore. And when they put in its place is nothing. But then there's like a playboy pop up right now. That's like I didn't pay because I wouldn't pay for a pop up. But it's like the playboy museum like go in the room. That's the fake playboy club and take your photo in front of some stuff for fifteen dollars. We're like the the word museum is becoming completely. Yes. Like we. We a road freight, and it's interesting because obviously the way museums or program did start to cater to Instagram like Caesar. Yeah. Like when it which was smart to be like, you can take photos in front of the art. Yeah. You know? I mean, I went into the Hilma f clip show. Like, I I did my part I didn't post the photos there. But like, you know, it's not the appeal of that for mainly. Nobody saw a lot of people posting about that one. I thought it was funny because I just kept being like Hilma. Clint af totally. Well, so she's cool. So no, it was it was a cool show. It's just like, but and I really really genuinely enjoyed it. But I, you know, there were people who are just going through and taking a photo of everyone and not even looking at taking a moment to look at the art with their own eyes. Which is you know, just kind of rate experience Konomi has gotten so weird also gonna call it. Now, not that I'm going to stop using it. But in a way think like Instagram might be the most insidious social media platform in what way go on. Well, I just feel like talking about facial recognition and having these kind of Instagram traps like it takes more legwork to kind of draw a person to a physical location, and then expect to for them to give you exposure. If it's in a written piece versus just a picture. I mean, it's obviously Cross's language barriers. That's like easily interpreted by anyone and there's a lot of data that. You can collect from that. Without the person really understanding how they're interacting with the platform. I say conversely tick tock, which is the new vine yet. I think might be good and save us all. It's old town road came from. Yeah. Right. It's it's we're town road came from and then J kings been posting all these amazing. He's got. Good stream. And it's literally a stream called of stream cooking. It's like foraging in a stream and the cooking in the stream. And it's the most relaxing, great cooking in the stream. Yeah, you have to and a street. I almost don't want to like spoil the one that he posted because it's linked. Okay. I almost screamed when I saw what happened at the end of it. I was like so delighted. That's all right. In the show notes. So everyone can see low internet will return is so slow internet. The other thing I think of when it comes to Instagram about, you know, maybe being secretly the most insidious is just the way that certain visual things are normalized in it or patterns and behaviors or just repeated over and over and over again until they become reality. And for some reason like there's obviously the linguistic version of that. But then there's the like visual version of that. There was an article recently in the Atlantic about how the current batch of new Instagram influencers are like abandoning what we think of as the Instagram aesthetic, like they're not doing the super bright colors and food arranged just so and that they're like it's blurry out a focus. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, you know deal with it grunge Instagram. But I still thought that was interesting at least like 'cause he sent tend to think of these things like the. Of influences as being like this big lake just one big movement. But the idea that there are some people who are I don't know. I also feel like it must be so weird for like like if you're a kid who knows people that are making a living as influencers. Yeah. Yeah. That must shift your perception of like, if you're like bad is what's valuable and like nobody thinks about like when will this end, right? Like, both also like if no career is sustainable, why not go for the career that everybody knows is not sustainable, but like burns the brightest. And at least you you're prepared going into it. Yeah. I also just say that the other thing that I think is kind of unsettling about Instagram is the story. Well, first of all, it's it's the the platform that I think is most kind of explicitly expecting you to document in real time, you know, and I think that the stories feature also gives this weird like you're able to really track a person's movements. Not that. I would. But the irregularly you could like a. Looking at Molly stories. I was like, okay, she's moving through the renaissance fair. And now she's here. Like, I can almost do like a map of where Molly goes, right? And then I could pin it to my bedroom wall and. Seeing real time. I tomorrow interfered steps and look for. We know people are posting in real time. But I feel like sometimes they're not. But I think across the board most people do it's something that you do without thinking. And it's also it seems to be like less incriminating. You're not really expressing opinions as I'm gonna go ahead and say, I do think about it. And I generally post after I'm not at that place anymore stare. It'd be so like here's where I am. Right. This second. But it's also like with Twitter, I think after the justina on the plane thing went I mean after everyone realized that like a bad tweak and kind of ruin your day month year, career, whatever there's there's nothing an Instagram. I mean, you've gotta terrible Instagram couch in, but for the most part most people I follow are not writing like little mini as as very often harder to get cancelled from Instagram. Yeah. It's harder to get cancelled from Instagram. And as a result, you can thoughtlessly document things without I mean with Twitter, I think now everyone gives like a little more pause before they express something chat. Rubicon exactly. No, I remember like seeing David show had Snapchat. And I would not he brought it to Disneyland. I was like why would you document like every five seconds of things that are happening like who wants that? And then that just became how everyone does everything do I like don't I think it's too much the amount of energy that it takes for me is like not worth it. I it's not actually thought was me to post a selfie like I have so many selfie. That's because you're such a director the directors. But I'm just like oh like. On the on the top nine photos on my Instagram. If if any more than three of them are selfish, and I start to get really self conscious that the everybody thinks I'm just an idiot who post selfies I don't think you post too many self Emily. And I tell you I think also once you're past a certain age like it doesn't feel self conscious anymore. Yeah. Kind of like here's my face. It's what I was part of my body. Saw got I think it took me a long time to be like to not feel like it was just really vain to post selfish to be like it's fine to just be like, right, right, documenting that I exist that sort of the funny thing about launching the patriot on this week as like photos of ourselves video out there. And like it's not that we're don't have photos of herself out there. We're just like not primarily I would say like visually represented people. And there was somebody who responded to one of them be like it's so weird to see like sound coming out of their mouths at the same. Like, I always thought bunch of people. Maybe. Yeah. It was like maybe we've hidden our faces like to well, people don't realize that all of the whole video is CGI Emily had to computer generate. I mean, that's why I was saying a lot of work because she accidentally really. Yeah. Yeah. So much wire work. He goes before we wrap up. Can we take one last night? Call. Yeah. Lutely, can it be the abject cosmic horror one okeydokey? This Email comes from Christian. He night Khali says still of the podcast lot, whatever crazy days and lonely nights are in store for us all in the last ups owed you asked about listeners reactions to the black hole images, and I can tell you abject cosmic horror. Why the online community is celebrating this image of a giant piece of nothingness is beyond me. I have always had mainly fear of the vast -ness of space, usually bigger than any sense of wonder or off. However, this brings me to a question to you connected to the sense of cosmic a few nights ago, my girlfriend, and I were sitting on my terrace drinking white wine and looking at the stars one particularly bright and blinking. One particularly bright and blinking star. Caught. Our I in my girlfriend's night sky app. Told us it was Arcturus of red giant thirty six light years away. One hundred ten times brighter than our sun. We both shuttered at that thought then I remembered reading about pan psych ISM, the idea that the entire universe and everything in it, not just us. But every tree in rock has a consciousness one piece of evidence for pancake ISM is that stars movements in the galaxy. Seems to be explicable only if we assume their own volition, the idea that Arcturus might have some sort of incomprehensible consciousness scared my girlfriend, even more, but I got a weird sense of constellation from it that there is this being there instead of just a cloud of very hot gas, which would you prefer in which scares me more. Christa? Oh such a good night climbing. I know the answer mmediately are need the lack of consciousness is so much more scary like I mean, yes, that's a very quick way to feel okay about the vast -ness of space is that like some somebody up there, you guys know in Griffith observatory in the museum part, the there's sort of that downstairs area where there's like a huge mural on the side of the IRS, and it's supposed to be if you hold up your finger, and you're looking at the night sky like your index finger like kind of close to your face, the amount of the the night sky that fits into your finger is approximately what that part of the wall represents which is about three stories high. And I don't know it cannot be over overstated how big spaces. Yeah. I think the thing that's upsetting about that. Is the fact that there's not anything they're like the as far as we know or that there's not anything comparable to what we understand as being consciousness or life or sentence out there. I think that's immensely more. Than the stars having consciousness. Well, I just wanted to say that the Griffith park observatory has been closed for the last week. Oh, no. And we are start. No, it's fine. They remain. Well, it supposedly to install LED lights along the path. But at night, call we are starting the rumor here you heard it first that it's because they found an alien. Oh, good one. Right. Totally disseminate that great Molly referred if think of planets as being sentient or just objects. I'm gonna tell you I like make everything sentient whether it wants to be or not I was a kid. I was really into like giving numbers personalities. Nice. I know. Exactly. Yeah. Sign that. I would not be good at math because at world building. We went to a camp and laments called Astro camp. Oh, yeah. That was like a sleep way camp for couple nights Idyllwild where it's like space themed. But it was like you're supposed to go on this night hike. And there's this whole thing was like the big thing is the night hike and the new like shoe winter in lifesavers in the dark to mix parks and look at the stars through. Tony. You can't. But it was too foggy to see the star. So instead, they showed us powers of ten. By the eases. And I'd never seen it before. And it's scared the living daylights out of me because it's just like here's space, and then it just goes here and further away and further away and like it just never ends. And we don't know where it ends. And there's no end the end the beginning of contact. Yeah. But I think I think now I find it weirdly consoling I like that. There's no order to things. Maybe I'm a anarchist. You definitely are an anarchist. I've been told that if you and I'm like, but I like order to some things right? You're a Virgo anarchists. Yeah. Yeah. Like a. An uncluttered chaos. Yeah. Definitely felt bad for the planet. Pluto in my life. Oh, for sure I mean, Pluto was also always kind of like an emotionally accessible planet. I think I like also that when you see things, and it's like, we don't know why the moon exists. Oh, hey, speaking of which I just wanted to spend a moon minute with you guys really briefly to let you know that a new study that was conducted by American Japanese researchers hypothesized that the moon was formed when a proto planet crashed into earth way back in the day. When earth was just like a ton of it was covered with like a sea of magma and the magma splashed into outer space, and then it expanded. And then it like jell together and made the moon. Great theory flow of it. And they're like this theory is just as viable as all the other theories. None of which we know if they're true. Well, there were like problems with previous theories is the there were like gaping holes. And I didn't we didn't know why the mooning says, well, they didn't understand why it was its materials were so earth-like, but also not earth. Like, I looked at the moon through a real Parab Oculus recently that also made my brain explode. Yeah. It's like I really like. Yeah. But it also against comforting. You're like we matter so little it's great. Well with that without I think that does it for this week's night. Call thank you so much for all your night calls a night emails this week. And we're glad we had a chance to get some of them. If you have any thoughts or night calls. You wanna make yourself, please? Give us a call at one two four four six night or an Email at night, call podcast at g mail dot com. You can also follow us on Twitter at night. Call pod Instagram at night, call podcast. Cast and Facebook at night, call podcast and subscribe to our patriarch on. It's it's it's it's chugging along now weekend. So go to patriotic dot com slash night. Call and. Check out our newsletter or club all sorts of stuff. We have come in soon in the night. Call verse also watch the video Emily made. It is so amazing especially now that you know, it's all CG. I really appreciate I mean, I wanna be up for an Oscar this year. So yeah. Animated short. Yeah. We'd like to support the new season of an EMMY for Megan which yet not believe it's not an EMMY for me again. Give me an Amraam an EMMY. And then give. Yeah. Of innovation award, or let's just beautiful animated faces threat against them this year like time. Yeah. Every season. Your call. We'll see everybody next week. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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So we've got a few things going on first of all formula draft. It's happening right now. You're you're in the points lead in your in your category. It's gotta be exciting and this is coming to irwindale out. He'll out here in california November twenty through twenty two first of all good luck. Our state is such a pain in the ass out here in california that or doing these shutdowns and everything. So i imagine there's going to be a version of this. Have you guys been doing racing throughout All forms of racing the the off road racing everything without spectators in with spectators and and social distancing. How is how is that been happening. Very it's been very state to state you know as you know. President trump is allow the state to make their own decisions also racing both ultra four and formula. Drift of this year has been everywhere. Has been different You know we've had events that have had fans you know with just standard things in place right mask wearing social distancing things like that and others that there's no fans so california of course he is had some pretty big things come down. I'm out here now. My family and i just arrived last night but yet there will be no fans this weekend. It'll just be a livestream event so certainly interesting. But i'm grateful to be out competing so while you know we'll take it however we can get it hours. Has it been for you on that because you know obviously different. Sports are presenting in different ways and the participants feel a certain feeling in you know going out and performing in front of no fans. I get wrestlemainia. It was really weird. You have been doing it repeatedly. What's yeah it's you you nailed it. You're definitely missing that in her fans. I mean there's certainly without a doubt a huge a huge hole in a huge way to you know we have a very young and savvy crowd. So they're all very engaged in social media and live stream and things like that so we've figured outweighs the same contact. I do like faith Instagram lives and things like that. Talk to my people but there. There's nothing like being at an event on high fives and put him smiles on their faces. I mean that's what i do. I like to share fun and put smiles on faces at. I think we're all in the same situation. I think everybody's understanding. And i personally try to make the best out of it but glidden but clinton all of that responsibility in the fun stuff and given back interactive aside as a competitor. Really change the situation at all by when you strap it in does it. I mean no. No i mean because you just go to a different place and then you know ready to be used to replace in your head and like There's it's probably a little bit easier big as you know you'll go to half time. You're getting his own our half messing with your fans and hanging out and getting out of that competitive zone whereas now you know you don't have that You don't have to make that shift. You're always there. So i would say from matt sided of slight bit easier but i would go back to the way it was and million possible And make shifts as needed another a little trick. I guess it's coming up in the mix. It's going to be kind of fun because you guys are live streaming like you were talking about for for formula drift specifically and the race coming up There's a non exactly sure how it worked out but a partnership between typists. Led's and i think autozone is the sponsor and forma draft and you guys put a video out about this. It was kinda fun where you took the drift cars. And you kind of did a tron factor you know underneath the cars and all around the cars you kind of let them up and look local and i think the plan was to to to race at night in irwindale so we can really kinda cool and see the lights. The bills boy is that board difficult. It looks cool for us to watch the these tronto fagged cars going around the back but you have to kind. Run it at night right. So short videos rad. We rented this this military training ground. Virginia copan era training ground. And they have this track. That's literally built into the side of the mount mad. They do you know military and we did that video with super sketchy by the way because in order to capture all lights we couldn't have a ton of lighting and so Chelsea actually drove off the side with cliffs on. It didn't get hurt at all. It worked out for the case scenario but But yeah you know tight best is a partner of ours and our partner of the series and they're going to help light it up and make it look it look sick. Which under glow is is something. That's coming back in a big way. And people are really starting to put lighting back on their vehicles. And it's gonna look sick this weekend at irwindale with all the pro cars have under blow on at night at irwindale. It's going to be. There's going to be really cool. And they've got i think they're also doing some stuff to light up the track in a unique way so i'm excited to see what they came up with they. They're doing some really cool stuff and type is putting out some great product that's available places like autozone and Even costco so really have to work with them. It's it's interests acres. I man i remember. Gotta be early nineties. Especially in south. Florida like the Under aglow stuff going on in some of these cars it was crazy. I remember. i've always been a mustang fan and was driving the fox body mustangs in the early nineties. More you know you don't maya at at. I had my my fair share of these cars for sure. But i just remember like an all black completely blacked out fox body convertible with like purple undercard neon ad guys are running around with no lights on because they want this weird glowing effects and i remember just standing around like i think it was in fort lauderdale at the time. This car comes flying and by with this under-blown underneath unlike that look cool by. You should turn your lights so it was getting a little getting a little dangerous with some of the things that are happening on there and then the that thing huge in a died away but now it seems like the perfect place for it is in something like what you guys are doing with formula draft. And it's gonna look fantastic on on camera has a great. You know like the smoke light up a bit like it's it's going to be. It'll create for cool fact for you. Know a very visually dynamic sport. it's just a no-brainer element to add to it. So i was. I was pretty excited. When you know when i when i heard about you know drifting is all about you know being exciting and being fun and exciting to watch and this is something really really. Take it to the next level or thing so exciting. You know it'd be able to try something in to do things differently. I think formula drift gives you guys that flexibility to do that. Kind of stuff right. I just don't see nascar doing this anytime soon. There's too many players too many rules. There's too many things going on. Ed ed i don't want say eddie less fun. I just think it's just such a big business that there's not a lot of not a lot of room to do something kind of fun like this. Honestly i love the at hr a to it but There's a there's another little. There's another level of danger going on there as well. I just don't want to go three hundred and thirty miles an hour down a straight line in the dark with jim courier. Turn your often. Cut your reaction time with right just. Diy cow i plus i ever existed. We're blur fact right. You just see the light just flirted down either. It might be kind of fun to do out to do a video of it. I don't know that. I wanna do professional racing but it looks like a pretty cool back. The other thing that you've been doing is Is ultra four. Tell us about ultra four so for for people. That aren't familiar with it. Yes so i've been racing. Four classic bronco bodied race. Is i make name as brockie. So you're my teammate. And i lord. He elite who is a legend in off road. We teamed up two years ago. I've been doing this now for five years. But it's basically ultra four. Iago and say i believe it's see the ultimate in challenge off. Were doing you know desert baja. There's a short course racing element at just about every every track Which is kind of like a stadium setting up to come through others trees. There's woods massive boulders king in the hammers most everybody knows the hammers. Okay and a hammer is the biggest ultra four race on but it is one race in the series and now it's just been a really incredible. Challenge me on extremely excited about you. Know everyone knows the broncos coming out and so this is kind of you know it stomping grounds if you will you know. They develop did a lot of durability testing out in johnson valley where the hammers is. And so for me. I just been enjoying this new sport. As new challenge on it reminds me of drifting about ten fifteen years ago was very early and just bury fast growing. It's just all epic themes off-road in one in one race really cool. It sounds like it's sort of the the triathlon or that heptathlon of of off roading. 'cause you're doing high-speed in the low speed tell us about the truck itself how do you. How do you build a truck to do the high speed low speed the rock crawling or you know it's sort of like conditioning yourself are from multiple events right. I didn't end up with a truck like that. yes there's multiple different classes. They have stock ish class and they have like a modified and then what i race is in the limited to three or four hundred class. It's it's unlimited. Whatever you wanna do and eventually you know these trucks are parked trophy truck and part rock crawler and so you know these things. Have you know twenty inches of travel front and rear We run forty engineer. Netto trail grapplers on our trucks so forty inch tires right makes everything smaller all the holes. All the voters everything gets smaller when you run the tire that big jim. You're my trump. Last year truck runs about seven hundred. Fifty horsepower this year trucks. Going to run about nine hundred. They've got fully bill. You know racing transmissions you know it's a you know everything that you can imagine right we have all you know. Triple bypass damper on them. We are got over ngo bypass so each quarter of the truck has effectively to shocks on and they are just handles sears abuse you know it goes to the woke at one hundred hundred ten miles an hour. It goes through these rocks. And when i say rocks rock like these are boulders in ravines not like you don't even wanna walk but the trucks drive right up so they're all tube chassis trucks at this level because a safety you would never be able to take a hit with a body on frame at speeds going exceed the you know. The the bodies of them are all composite for lightweighting and obviously achieving shaving. The goals their massive massive you know ring opinions and everything is fabricated reinforce weenies things. Just take crazy crazy. Abuse blood day are just unbelievable to be behind the wheel back. I'm i'm constantly surprising myself with what this what this can do. Do do run it all the way through or do you get to you. Know do the high-speed stuff stop change. The shock said sheddings settings than do the rock climbing and or is it more like a triathlon. Where you just you just keep going young. Yeah there's no ties get my free time. You know if you're gonna make changes pitstop and you don't want the ho- so we dial the truck citizen depending upon what you know like anything else. You know when you're racing you set your car up to be a best whatever's going to create the biggest difference so usually you know the majority of time is is in the fast off and when you set your truck up well for the vast off it actually works very well rocks as well so kings got some great shop technology that we use. Its its position sensitive. So you know there's certain areas that you're working in when you're in the rough stuff and then when you get into obviously the rocks and the rocks and things like adds a bit different so you can effectively have a good tune for everything and then you know you focus on the majority of of being like where you put a majority of your your tuning energy too. So but yeah now. It's one set up when you leave the line. That's what you got and you know you're hoping to finish. In this sport the attrition rate is like unbelievable. I think qian hammers last year. Hundred and twenty truck started in like thirty or forty finish. I mean it's it's it's raw and it is. You're just getting the crap kicked out of you for a couple of hours at a time and you know it's it's for signage. That just unbelievable challenges. You know what engine do you run in the truck. Also that drunk so we have a. It's called a z. Four twenty. seven is a four performance crate motor that i had my cash to bid teammate. Ron's four sixty d motor. which is what. I'll be switching over to next year. The d motorist afford base wings based motor. Been around for a long time that you know most mode. Allowable racecars are wanting now and that was the original architecture as well so does very bulletproof reliable. You know this game. It's it's displacement So exhibition and fund vehicles. We would use like a coyote. which is you know. Three zero to rio to base input superchargers. Something on it. But in for the racing side of it you know having a blower and having all the extra weight extra heat and things just not conducive. So it's a big displacement game. You know some people switch over to big block motors like like you would see in pro mod and things like that so it's getting crazy The biggest thing now is everyone's adding more power. Things are starting to break transmissions axles years. Right so it's the You know the old adage. How much is how much is too much in. My answer is well. Nothing is too much but you need to keep your together because you can't win. If you can't finish you know yeah. Do you run iron block. Aluminum blocks i'll you some guys steal block block motors. But we're running aluminum. I mean i try to have a lightweight. Anyway i can so you run the big displacement push rod engines. You're right you want you want the reliability. You want the torque in inner drift car. You're running the coyote right. You're to the mod engine or also in more than one of our cars are competition cars. That are focused on winning. We've gotta use the best recipe possible so for that car. All we run our lie. Forty five which is a motor. That row hates. Four performance have developed affectively. Ron uses f r. Nine heads which are used on the cop cars and you know that that motor is a four hundred and fifty five q begin to motor makes nine hundred a and then we run about three hundred shot worth miters so that nitrous is constantly constantly available based on your position and when i come in i didn't think about that and think about running nitrous on on on the drift cars. That sounds like a fantastic idea. Now that i'm kinda running through my head gone. Yeah all right. So lightweight right. It's super lightweight and has a tunnel horsepower easily controllable and relatively safe when you when you know you're dealing with you're right you're right in the mod motor you. You'd be running a super charger on it. And you're beat. You're adding that way to the top of the engine you're adding You know air liquide. Inner colours a tank for heat exchanger for letting you be adding one hundred pounds you know whatever eighty pounds hundred pounds to to the whole setup and then you guys had to get creative and go. We don't want the water taking the front. We wanted the back Okay all right. Well let me let me do this. Let me Let me hit our friends at At geiko real quick and then now will keep going on you guys own your home or you right in your home either way. It can be a lot of work but you know it's easy. It's bundling your policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle. Your homeowner's are renders insurance along with your auto policy and that's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home already so just go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit geico dot com today at geico dot com. All right so we've got a of course a million other things going on. We're gonna try to get to as many as we possibly can. Let's talk about the mock e fourteen hundred right. I went to the to the unveiling of mock e. And i don't think chris has. He's not stupid. i don't think he's got the sound drops of our buddy alastair but Aggravated they they debuted the machi. I thought it was a fantastic entry into the market for for ford in this is going to the former inside of things. Oh there was a went for a ride in one of the cars as well and it seems cool like it looks good. It's got a good line to it. I'm scott a good profile to it. I liked that. There's a lot of talk about. Should it be a mustang. Should not be a mustang. And i thought they they did a pretty good job of saying if it's gonna be a mustang it needs to have some mustang dna and although people still questioned it ford's answer was all right. Let's let's turn it up to eleven and see what happens and then you guys worked together and come up with a democracy fourteen hundred right. Did ford come to you guys for this or did you have thoughts on on machi. Yes so i'm glad you like the machi. I've got to spend a lot of a of time in it. And ford super committed electrical. They're doing a great job. I mean they're they're really getting it. And as you know jim farley as ceo. He's a technology guy and he's outside. The box of the future is bright. And i'm really excited about what what we've got going on over there. You're the fourteen hundred was interesting project for me. Yano bugai's no. But i've come from background hours a computer nerd when i had a real life job. You know seventeen years ago. And so i've always had my eyes on the electric's phase and knowing on paper what you know what. Electric motors are capable of. something. I've been very excited about for things that i do. And so you know i knew machi was coming obviously And i had the opportunity to go to a test in a in electric vehicle. And i kinda like kinda on this app of figuring out what i would do if in when we ended up having opportunity to build one in basically long story short was. I had a very very in people being excited about driving. It's been such a special thing for me in my life. And i hear people like thinking electric cars or just like the end of fun behind the wheel and so i had some personal interests to just create something that that shifted some perspective. And and what if what if was done like this and so I came up with some concepts and and work with with my team a bit on some of the technical details and when to four and said hey. I'm kind of thinking of of an ideal like this that we could leverage like that and they were like well. Your timing's perfect bomb. Because funny you should say. And it's not like they open the secret door and we just kinda just jive on the same page very quickly as to you know how to bring something new and exciting to the electric space. People built vehicles the break track records and you know this that and the other kind of traditional mindset and on like just like what if we build solving naked drifts rear will drive all wheel drive something i could do laugh attacks hill climbs and most importantly something that could you know we could have three passengers in giving them the experience of of what it is and so we talked ford into letting us build what was to become the machi. Fourteen hundred Huge project for my company. Rtr i you know on paper. We have no business building an electric vehicle. One of our greatest builds at were known for is is cantuta corn. But that's far from an electric vehicle. But aw is one of those things that would passion in the right people. We could get uninformed believed in austin. It's one of the most unbelievable things we've ever accomplished in unbelievable to drive. Mean it's just it feels like a magnetic roller coaster like in all sensible words. It's crazy if you guys haven't seen any of the videos of this thing yet And not just just vaughn thrashing the thing but just the look of it the stance of it the sound it's electric vehicle but by no means says it seemed to be quiet. It's you guys got it kind of really turned up. And i don't know if that's just maximum out those motors or if it's just kind of some straight cut gearing for durability or whatever had happened to make that happen but it's it's fantastic to see. So how does how does your company are tr. Go about building something like that from scratch like how. How close you get to get with ford when when doing something like that so we had some our vision on paper what this was going to be any once we once we engage ford went from like being this vision and goal to like this vision and goal your ford in this project but working with four now for thirteen years and this project like openness special vaults indoors of like these super super smart people that you know this is one of those projects you dream that you get this type of team and because we're building this to know rules you know and it was basically built for not just demonstration and demonstrates analogies. Are you know no one's built vehicle. I shouldn't say no but there has been very few electric vehicles of this magnitude with these types of technologies and so it was a true great collaboration between ford and then we had a drive train partner that we aren't even kind of coordinating their from lack. The other name is driving a when they have us. Great experience on is actually introduced to them by a friend of mine. Reese melon and i'm sure you know home and work with them when he is a pike's peak project call two years ago so we with them and leveraged their expertise when it comes to electric fixation drive train for was very heavy on the air dynamics and the battery design the battery is the heart of these things. And there's the most to learn in the battery technologies and so what that was really where ford big focus was out. Our design team worked hand-in-hand with design team to get what you see is the final books for me. I wanted something that was kind of inspired by the group. Five group five era. Think like zach skied capris days when motors for was just like what three. Whatever you're crazy shit you can build in. You know you can build off bring it so that was kinda where some of the you know. The looks go initial looks came from and then once aerodynamics teams and things got to kind kinda resolve the the final looks based on function. So yeah it was just a true collaboration. You know we had a lot of learning to do a. We're no stranger to build bad ass cars and you know were experts. When it comes chassis and composite and things like that rotation drivetrain powertrain stuff was all new to us so what we have. Actively did was We basically the entire vehicle and catch. Because there was no maki's available at the time so we built the entire vehicle add and the whole the whole thing was built before we even got the body and white. You know the donor body white to build it off. And so the configuration of it is there is basically A fifty six point eight kilowatt hour battery at set super-low three inches off the ground. Between the axles there is two completely separate. powertrain Three stack of motors in the front that go directly to a differential could change differential. Just like we use in our drift cars and then in the rear. There's a stack of four motors. Are that go directly to differential and so basically the eight hundred volts from the battery runs through seven different burgers which those control the power output that goes to the motors in commands. Whatever your commanding with the accelerator to stupidly. Simplify it so. Basically we have the flip of a switch can four wheel drive front wheel drive. Rear wheel drive makes about fourteen hundred horsepower and a right around two thousand four pounds of torque motors and then you obviously do the torque multiplier with the differential and you can very quickly see how you can see you know four to six thousand pounds a tour at tire so it's certainly not the the lightest vehicle but that's one thing that is so different about electric vehicles. Is that everything we know. Weight is related to our weight distribution of vehicles we've driven right traditionally motor in the front up high relatively high transmission and that whereas with electric vehicles especially ones that are built for electric vehicle or your electrification. A the battery's low. The center gravity's low so now five thousand pound vehicle can still feel like a three thousand pound vehicle on the way that it terms and reacts because that's center gravity is is so low and so it's such a different perspective which i think is something that people be extremely excited about when they finally drive the new machi. It's just unbelievable way. It handles because of these characteristics and so so that was something that was really different for me as a driver coming in instead of just looking at the weight number feeling vehicle because it it is a true race car feels unbelievable track no matter what what we're doing what happened or what did it feel like the first time you drove it because you can't really have you can't really anticipate four five thousand pounds tour in like you like i don't know like get it you can. I don't know you could. You could be very gentle or could not gentleman so we were actually out tasks and i was feeling pretty disappointed because i was being told this was full. Power output and It turned out that we're just having some issues and there was literally one number inside of the burgers that had to be changed. And so we were my my technical director ray and i were sitting in the car and we think we you know. He thinks that we figured out. We're about to tested for the first time full power. So i'm like. Are you ready in these yet. Let's do it. Not just four in the car just is like a skirt skirt like tires they just launched in. I hit the brakes. Stop like i was scared. It was settled so hard. It was like i kept going back to like my internal combustion brain where when it's lean it feels really good till it. Doesn't you know what i mean like if it's clean condition and so this kind of felt like that it was just so absurd from anything i'd experience with it. I just had to make sure it was okay. We came to a stop with looked at everything and yup sure enough like this is what it was supposed to be like. This is what. I was dreaming that we were building and and so we went around the rest of the day. Just like little little kids giggling because it was just kind of find that kind of reward of of all this after and so Is just incredible. And i mean everyone since enemy. I've seen seasoned vets get behind the wheel. This thing i mean cam blah You know some of my key members that i've taken on some crazy crazy experiences and then we just had an event. Vr where allow ford's nascar drivers non experienced in every single one of them got out just like completely flabbergasted. Mind blown everything they thought they knew. Electric was just completely out the window. Yeah well obviously canada's done some. Some bad should crazy cars. The hooligan were all big fans of being oil. Drive nutty what what was what was his reaction when he drove the machi. The fourteen hundred. Yeah he was. He was super super impressed. Ken for a long time. And he's you know it's hard to get a ton of excitement out of him but he was. He was just shocked at tour and he wanted more. I was we were. We were light on battery when he finally got experience. It during that shoot. We did and he just wanted more. He just kept telling me like why. Are you going to tease me like that. And so law but yeah he was. Here's really impressed. And i think you know just like me in any driver that gets in it. You know you're more so shocked and then your brain immediately goes into like processing. What just happened and how you can utilize technology for whatever your personal needs and wants and so he went there very quickly you know. We started talking about a lot of other things around enough after the are so it was cool to see his his mind open perspective shift not that he was a close minded person. But it's just it's just inexperienced man that is so different from anyone any of us know and you touched on the sound. You know you hear a lot of different things you know. So for the fourteen hundred in particular. There's an engine wine or motor winds. Sorry in it's more just like a really high strung. Rc car and you adapt to it very quickly as a driver. I was nervous you. I'm used to screaming aids goldberg. You know the beauty of internal combustion engines housing and adapt to this lack of sound but there is a sound of speed and acceleration. And you know exactly what to do and what not to do. It's not like it's as nomex -perience you know what i mean like. It's a very exciting visceral experience even without a eight cylinders having explosions going on i think lack of sound is overcome by the performance. That you see right in front then he then you can adjust to it and then you can accept it and then you can work on it but you know madam have done some fairly cool stuff in our lives. Automotive wise matt more so than myself but obviously we can live vicariously through guys like you and kim. But what's the coolest shit you've ever done. I mean it sounds kind of like this last experience with the sixteen hundred but seriously if you had to sit here and think about what is it. What's the one thing that's the biggest smile on your face. you ever. The automotive lies. And i know it's hard you know. Maybe what i'm going to give you. I'm gonna give you a fresh one. Because i just came from it this weekend and this might sound lame. Compared to what you're expecting. But a friend of mine cleaves mcfarland owns a race track called freedom parkway and florida last weekend we had a two point. Four hour race called the two point. Four hours away. Mullets at crown. Vicks with various drivers from different demographics running door to door and it was like the most unbelievable sign unadulterated no pressure type on. You know what. I mean so one day i have to. I have to believe you there because goodwood was fun and the cool stuff that i've done spun but the most fun i've ever had was an havasu when we did. We had to pull it was a it was a demolition derby and pull of boat behind you so i get that i get that answer. Yes it here's like when you when you get into a crazy car for the first time. It's it's thrilling but Von in your case when you get to do it again and again and again it really kind of becomes your job. It's it's not always the car that becomes the most impressive thing. It's the experience around like like you say the demolition derby with your Dragon boat around or just a bunch of crown vicks. Just doing something crazy in. It's it's the experience because you know now you know how to handle a car right so now it's like what kind of crazy shit can you do. That's kind of fun with in that environment. I i was speaking about some crazy stuff. You mentioned. goodwood and goodwood recently did their Their version of a non spectator. You know online version video version of it. And you're there with the machi. Fourteen hundred and god a little squirrelly look like they like me come up even when you did it. You did it better than anyone be. I can tell you that i will. We ios interesting so for speed weekday sent us out and we only you go on you do with the warriors no time to warm are titles. So i turned it in and it just started a rotate on me and i was done. I stood on the you know back in the grass. You're in trouble. So i track godly drive off and saved it but it was i wanted to. It was sketchy. I took that i took that for a ride. We tested the durability of ball some suspension points all that but i got back on the track and there was no issue but it was. It was a sketchy moment for sure. I don't care what you've done. That is is. I don't know i don't know how to characterize him but it's different. It's not like you're nervous. It's it's your competitive. It's just a different deal. It is a different deal. So i mean i had my blood. Yeah it was like you couldn't show hail remind going. I can only imagine what it was like. In that. That i i love it. 'cause the always got the british commentators and they're all sort of like even when you watch like the The vintage race. Not just the hell climb. They're just. They're they're good and they're so smart but they're still kind kinda monotone and still very british and i remember when when you did the the machi fourteen hundred. The guy's like here's vonda. Juniors in the machi fourteen hundreds and all electric vehicle and then and then you get off. And he's like i guess. Oh it goes a little bit over. Here he goes all or purpose. I can't. I can't really tell because it's junior you'd never know what he's doing and just like just going with it he's like not a care in the world he's just like i don't know if this is on purpose or not so you made it good at least your fool down on purpose. It was not when they commentated it was it was fun Okay so Here we got a little bit of tastic. The talk getaway exactly flicking a switch. It's gone isn't it if this were recording speed oh big sly stallone just about. He's a great time. But it is gonna be the same. He's like did rally mode mistake over. That was that was at other motor circuit so they did speed week this year. Which wasn't up the drive. That you and i have gone for festivals speed but nonetheless. It was a wild ride. It looked like it was a lot more forgiving than the than the he'll climb. Yeah it certainly was definitely a little bit. Run off their climb. Sketchy like you like. Bill mentioned like you. You can't explain. It's sketchy it's a light and it's a standard british driveway and were taken. You know bills enough. Nascar in my mustang. And it's it's got to you you go off. My adage was as long as i can go faster. The car will get skinnier are fit through better than what you didn't denmark and that's all right. I was so so concentrating on gambino or whatever it was i forgot. Yeah whatever move on all right. Let's talk about your fox body mustang. Because i got one hanging on the wall here. Mccann car this this is. This is a rendering for a for seema bill. But it's like two projects down the line so i've got my lightning my ninety five lightning working on now. I've got a red ninety three cobra. That's about eighty percent on Developing some stuff for the lightning that should work on the cobra to get it. Let's just say you'll ever britain white beard for dead now. This car. this car here is kinda waiting in the way things but it was at sima twenty sixteen To show off this suspension brought we brought the unibody stripped down and it had a coyote. Engine with it on it. It had a brim. Bow breaks coil over suspension. The front and it had an independent rear suspension. Out of no four cobra. the back Showed off all suspension and stuff in in the drive line. And now it's back in it's gonna be off to the side but that being said i saw your video of I guess on your property you just build yourself a little course on your driveway and told everybody to wait inside a poorly die. You're thrashing your Your out there. Is this something. You had already urged you build something for fun just to shoot corentin video yet. I've had a fox. I've had on fox for a while. Its nickname is the missile. Oscar's just started out as just a toy that i would just go practice and beating bang on doors of my friends and this was during quarantine and as long as guy can't donate tracks right now so i'm just gonna go out some driveway and that's what i did. I set up a little course in my which was my previous home. I actually just moved to north carolina. Now but i is a super tight driveway and i went out and had a good time that you would get the house. I don't. I don't care about something back i did i. I was perfect. I did hit the trash cans. That was kind of part of a plan. But then i went in there to go under the carport and i was feeling a little cocky and i wanted to see if i could just do donuts under this is it's a twenty foot carport in one night. Nine new donuts under lean did not work out. I end up smashing a recorder blow metabolites out on so. Tell your wife your kid around. Yeah yes this is. The fun can now. What what engine you have of that. So that is a Four performance three sixty three about five hundred horsepower motor. That's a good little crate engine. Then boss along those great z. Heads on it. Yeah exactly yes super reliable. And i'd be dead being up. I've run it hot and you know it just it gets no when just handles it. So it's always nice when you find that kind of motor. That'll just let you be a jerk to it. Thank you Let me hit the hit a dodge for more time and then i want to before we wrap it up. I want to get into are a little bit more tells. What's going on with the arts. Your stuff As you know we talked about Dodge of being Being known for big horsepower. And it's it's crazy muscle cars and jd power just ranked dodge number one for initial quality which is fantastic dodges the first domestic brand ever be ranked number one in initial quality and appeal in the same year. And it's the first time. Domestic auto automotive brand has run away with both of those awards in a. We've seen it with enough style within a horse power and performance to make your muscle car dreams. Come true it's no wonder jd. Power name dodge number one ranked brand in initial quality and drive Driver appeal for mass market brands. It's a They're having a lot of fun with it. I know bills have a lot of these cars as well and i'm pretty sure bills. Keep in touch in business with with these car. So broker fourth quarter biegel. They join the brotherhood of muslim experienced. The strength of dodge muscle today visit dodge dot com to shop and buy online or your local dodge dealer crate deals. There's never been a better time now to join the brotherhood of muscle. All right let's talk about. Rtr little bit rtr. We're going on. I don't a decade as a company maybe longer than that as a as a as a concept an idea of yours. But this isn't this isn't it. I mean this. Isn't you have fifteen years with ford and a great relationship at the success in racing in say. Hey how do we capitalize on this. This started very early on this. This is sort of. You know this was a project of yours. An idea of yours or a early on to to come up with with archie are so explain what rt are is. Yeah so you know it's it's it's evolving. Something beyond what i ever thought it would be. I love to tell you that. I had this perfect plan. You know ten years ago. Ten years ago on. But i started the company started making parts for the sole reason that you once i got into the mustang world and i wanted to personalize my car like i felt like it was just a very old school. Mindset that like carts that you know my dad granddad wanna put on his mustang. And i wanted something new for myself but i felt like i kind of spoke for generation in in a sense and so the are was launched in two thousand. Ten is kinda my vision of a new generation a mustang. You know there's there's plenty of room for all types of different styles. But i wanted something for you know for younger. You know i felt fat. Mustang was kind of losing. Its it's hip. It's hip appeal to the younger. You know my. I was younger at the time. And you know the younger demographic a younger group said i was full. I'd fallen so much love. The car wanted everybody to think it was cool. And so you started out just making you know making some parts and making that available like the complete vehicle available as a dealer installed package and now ten years later we've got vehicles all over the world dealers all over the world. We've got support for f one fifty ranger multiple generations mustang. Both appearance and performance arts. And all you know. We're we're very rapidly developing on for new bronco and things like that now so you know what started is just kind of a dream. Division has now turned into a very real innovative real company. And you know with a very real great relationship with ford were strategic partners with four and This a lot of really great things. Down the pipeline. And you for me personally. It is still a project a passion. You know why. I just want like i mentioned people to be excited about driving vehicles and and we take the amazing were fully focus on a percents or not because for pays us to be full and focus on them. Because i believe in what they're doing and i'm very excited to have the opportunity to take what they're developing and then it to another level for those other like-minded like you know we say you know available to all not for everyone and that's true we don't build vehicles for everybody we'd go vehicles for those that get it for those that are you know trying to fill a void in their in their lifestyle. You know maybe need a little bit more competence or a little bit more on behind the wheel. And that's that's what we do now. Archie are has a custom shop as well because you mentioned the machi. Fourteen hundred project unicorn. You guys did as well right. You mentioned that earlier. Which i don't think a lot of people know. How does that work. Is this a custom shop that they just kind of build your sort of brainchild of cars or or is this a a shop. That can be hired. Yes so we. We're not like for higher public like hot rod shop so we have our vision. Were we have engineers in development team. That's constantly evolving those products in that. That's going on than we have our motor sports program which is effectively where a lot of our special vehicle builds run through. So we don't have a great team great fabricator but you know a lot of this stuff kind of when we take on projects like this ever. It's kind of all hands on deck so you know design comes from our you know myself our lead designer it at our tr. The fabrication duties are done from the the same guy that advocates raise ours. You know the composite stop has done the same places that you know we leverage for the race ourselves brett but we've built a great network akiba. We have a great staff in house stacking achieve and do anything and you know so when we take on a large scale project fourteen hundred or like canned tuna corn. These are not things that were constant looking for things that are quite taxing on the business. But we do them because they're part of a bigger picture and so that's why we don't necessarily just take on customer work. It's not that like for the right project. We won't consider it but that's not our business. Our businesses motor sports marketing on medium and content and obviously competition and and obviously our vehicles with the with aftermarket parts and turnkey vehicle. So on we doesn't care about your business. He just wants to know if you can finish his lightning i can. I go work for that. Others more of a dream come true. It's just it's crazy. Not i love cars entire life. I was five years old and my mama's was married. My stepfather getting matchbox ripped out of my hands. So i could carry ring and for me to be here now with you know the type of team that we have and the people that choose to you know surround me and what we're doing you don't spend their time in their lives to help achieve. These goals is humbling and under extremely grateful. Board and looking forward to keeping the fun going. it's at We're we're excited to see stuff that you're doing you're right. Rtr's really grown quite a bit. I was over at galata sports the other day getting work done on my truck and i think they had two or three rangers getting a full. Rjr treatment on it over there are they're constantly doing it and now it's you know it's it's cool when when when when customers and fancier stuff and they're like i like that i like what's going on i wanna use it. That's one thing but then when you go to shop like that and the guys who are installing it like this stuff that the installer guys go. I like the way it installs. I like the end result. They got like the combination of it and then they they start to get really behind it because they say things like. Oh you know this fits the best or works. Best the smoothest ride or the best road or as best warranty. And it's just like that. That's the total package. That's sort of behind the scenes that a lot of people kinda miss when you get into the aftermarket world you know So you know if a if a shop like that is doing two or three packages at a time. Go something pretty good. You're right you know. And that's taken law cried in our engineering development You know i take my relationship. Ford is very serious in as an opportunity do not screw up until we've always had very rigorous processes so that our final product whether you're installing your garage galveston song it. You're not cussing us. Oh i see here. Our i guess. We're i think we're kind of at a time here. We're gonna wrap some things up von getting junior guys von getting. The website is on. Instagram is on twitter. Is all over at bond getting junior. You can follow him everywhere. He's got a great youtube channel as well. You can see all the cool stuff up there and Including the the the really cool Video he did with chelsea for the type asset led's Were apparently chelsea would over the edge not caught on video of baby a little a little dark but with the when the lights flew off the edge of they disappeared. You chelsea was missing. So that's up there as well Formula draft is coming up very soon. It's november twenty three twenty two. It's in california so you probably can't go but you can watch it online and check out how they're going to set up all the racing at night with all the cool lighting and things like that. So thanks guys. I appreciate it are we. Are we missing. Anything else any Any final thoughts final plugs be good. Varma was for pleasure having you on what monster. Give you a bonus. You had one other drinks in your fridge behind you well. This is my house with my house. 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#6.4 - BEER - Chris Forsberg

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#6.4 - BEER - Chris Forsberg

"Did top it up because we are about to kick it off. I'm going to introduce our next guest so you go and grab a beer both the people listening as well as my next guest because this is because everybody enjoys roadrunners beer with jared deandre also want to ask you on the front end of this episode. Please review listen enjoy but just give me five stars even if you hate the podcast because I just want people to know about this podcast. I'm all about diversity and you know when people heard that I was GonNa do a podcast. They expect kind of automotive. They just expect cars. They expect kind of automotive industry or announcing in obviously expect beer. That's going to happen but I wanted to secretly call this beer but also because everybody enjoys roadrunners roadrunner run on the road. It's about travel. It's about the journey. It's about all of that. So please go rate. Give Five stars to my podcast now. Previous episodes of this podcast featured many different people automotive world but also just dropping one in the middle doing five point five with my buddy Ali. Asha worker more. We're bouncing around two wheels four wheels and here. We are lanny back. What a lot of people know me as in the drifting world so had to bring somebody that always gets the win a lot of people's minds and of course in my heart and there's a gentleman that I truly love. He's a great friend of mine off the track on the track. We've shared the most amount of time and just we just you know. The drifting traveling circus is is a family. But obviously you're going to gravitate towards people that you just enjoy the time a little more and I enjoy many peoples times but this gentleman was traveled all over. We've shared many last many tears. Many tears of joy tears of anguish. But just I truly enjoy this gentleman's company and we. We partied together. We've cried together. We've shared tattoos together. And I love this gentleman. So He's part of the family. He's three time formula drift champion. Chris the Force Forsberg so he's grabbed a beer. I've grabbed a beer. Chris is sitting somewhere in a bathroom. I think it was you. You sitting in a bathroom yeah. Was it a back room or a bathroom? Oh I thought you were at the bathroom at the circle. K around the corner. Okay got it. You're in the back room got it. Yeah I'm in a room of the shop because know I'm Dan. Cutting Brian but You know mega right yeah. Happy hour chats a beer You know you're working for the day like near ideal guys. I'll be in the bathroom. The bathroom well for the next hour. don't bother me do that. Del Taco ran right through me. We got some. We got some bad impossible down at the DEL TACO and last Sienna right right at the gate again. People expect automotive but here we are getting back. The drifting low hanging fruit dude. Just hours ago you dino twenty twenty formula drift comp car and what were the horsepower numbers that I saw? Well seventy to the ground our And thirteen thirteen. Holy Banana cakes. I mean do you. What do you know the records? As of like who has. Who's WHO's ever. I think Dean Carney posted something ridiculous years ago high. He was like fourteen. S which is pretty. I mean if you really think about it. Di- goes got. Everybody smoked because he did like twelve. Eighty in twenty twelve. Yeah twelve eighty two thousand twelve. Yeah that was the two S. four thirty correct. Yeah so like when he came over and twelve that maniac machine he literally what I did today. Eight years ago that is just absolutely bonkers. But so you know here you are. T are engine. Three Seventy Z. We are currently under the kind of quarantine cove nineteen lock it down. You've been in the lab You your boy you know. Diamond Fab Jimmy. I concepts all those all those gentlemen. You've been working remotely and they've been in your ear telling you what to do though right. I mean like I've been putting a car together Out here by myself Not Entirely by myself you know. I don't the hand and a new teammate. Has Been Working in shuffle time. Jimmy came now for the first half of the bill We didn't have the engine yet. We're just of getting the car back together cleaning lines believing things and like getting ready And then we did. A budget changes in the last month. Or so Russell my Spotter and suspension Guy Russell Water Russell Walker Texas Ranger just to be specific de. Yeah Yep and Yeah he redid suspension points on the car so we put a whole new supreme in the back of the car We did a A new quick change cool. We're not this isn't a tech bill. We're not doing a boring tech talk. I feel like we've already had like five of them. We've already had five of these conversations but they're like black garage and like what's going on. Hey form drift headed blackout. So what are you drink Chris? What's your beer of choice? Yeah what do you think do biggby l? You'RE SO EXOTIC. You're drinking the sweet out specifically only be on your podcast. No that is not true. You're drinking the tears photo From the person's name rhymes with spam. Melvin and it was like you know handle I'm yeah. Don't worry I gotTA cover. That is the tiers of Post Malone that you're drinking I appreciate that as post Malone drink. You're GonNa Make Fun of that. We just need to drink together so I am currently drinking a beer of never happy for its Drakkar from Fargo North Dakota but I think you'll appreciate the name it's called Gasm Echo guys. I got. I got a pretty good beer in the fridge. I should show you a friend of ours brought by. I've been wondering when the drinking today might be a good day so next time you go on some weird ran. Eyal right over the bridge. Six so echo at Gaza from Fargo North Dakota Really Dope graphics on it but breaking it down Sicher Mosaic House. Geese PALE to row flaked. Oats careful multidose. These are one of those rants. If you'RE GONNA go get them beer numb joking. Don't go anywhere don't do it. Seven percent don't don't leave. Don't leave a soldier behind. You got a nice frosty cold crispy boy there. You No rose. Yeah Kristie boy flowing out of here. They Forsberg again again if to. You're a heavily branded right now. For those that could see this this might just live in the ether but you got BC racy Mishimoto parts you got Canaan air filters jd Pistons Radiant Dorian the bathrooms well because we're in the bathroom so because we're under quarantine. Forsberg ran out of toilet paper. So he's purely using cannon air filters as toilet paper you just their washable. You re oil washable Spray on there. And it's great then we're gonNA define what's what's your most memorable trip You and I had together. Can you think of anything off the top of your head something stupid? There's one that kind of stands out in my mind. Yeah Well God. Dang there's a few like there's there's so many FDA's as well like if you WANNA take out of the equation Right Abu Dhabi or maybe China. Some of the early ones are cool ones but there are so many like oh. You're talking about cinema and point ten thousand six he's talking. Irwindale and you know there's so many right any stick out where I look like look like an ass where you look at all of them all very good down one that stands out in my mind is is a classic trip and it was just totally off the radar which would be Not Dr but Puerto Rico Puerto Rico. Where else did we go? Costa Rica. Where did we go that island? Where now where do we go? No go ahead. Where we're von where we took Mickey Edwards and Tony and in Vaughn and the right L. Salvador El Salvador. That was that was a wild trip. One stands out in my mind. It's on the drift alliance video too. I wasn't a total buffoon. It was Tony Angelo. That didn't want beans on his plate. Tony Angelo former said no Bush. The story goes that we're in El Salvador were standing at a fairly decent resort and Tony Angelo former formula drift driver eventually judge now motor trends star again drift alliance drift trip along with a couple. Hot Boys Dub Ernie veal and the apex there. Too we'll stunt riders now. They're very accomplished. Which is pretty sad to see. They're they're kind of careers. Grow but Tony. Angelo does not like beans and there was a language barrier here lost in translation. And the case is that. Tony asked multiple times for no beans on his plate breakfast. We're in this nice little COSC- look at the ocean. Well unfortunately the plate came back with beans once again and Tony and I was kind of egging him on a little bit and Tony just a little bit. And he blames me for him snapping. He's like played overhead full plate. I said No. Beans smashes the plate on the ground. Zero Chill Zero Chill. Yeah that was pretty funny. And then you gotTa then you laugh and I was like this is stupid and just like finish breakfast man. Just like they're nothing like is great. Yeah that was that was an eventful one and I remember again. All my highlights of in the video is falling on the slide. Falling down this falling down that and it was just meet is falling falling all over the place and another another great ship. Another great trip in my mind was Was New Zealand. Rebel drifters Tyler mcquarry. Went over there Ryan Turk and And yourself and Obviously Mad. Mike was there. It was his event but notably the thing is that we were. We were asked to go bungee jumping. We had the opportunity to go bungee jumping and the story goes that base. Okay Yeah you yeah you interview Chris. Tell please tell us your experience so yeah. We're getting ready to go bungee jumping and I'm immediately like I don't WanNa do that. I don't this is my thing my I wouldn't have signed up for it but like whatever and like everyone starts talking about it and You Know Church I wanNA to do and you're like oh I don't WanNa do it. You know we're like. Oh cool all right so none of us want to do this by kind of show and hang out. Whatever they all they go through the tower. You know let's just gets to go check it out like all right. We're GONNA Tower. I'm already like I hate it. I hate all this strike like walking on that tiny little thing under the bridge to the POD bay like okay like everybody just Kinda hang out in jail and you know like we had all basically not doing right like yeah like yeah. We're not going. I'm not John Jump. Fight this you know like like if you don't want to do then we don't have to. And so the way they do it is the Bundy's set up from the biggest guys. The small guys keep pulling the strings off right and so the first guy they call up and like I don't know whatever his name was Nico go read. Meco read is a huge molly dude in in New Zealand still drifts. He's a maniac driver but he's larger than me so they they have the most amount of Bungee bungee ropes for him. You're like nope not doing it. And it's like like all right. We're the good guy and then Problem that's actually not. That's neat right. Defend himself and So then Move into Jared and they call up. Jared Jared Book and just like run to action like you mother ever totally like sign up and I know if if Jerry Jones is bridge. I have to jump off his fridge. I can't back down now. I can't let him have that overweight. And I sat there and wet bullet next like thirty minutes. Waiting for my turn and sure enough jumped off that bridge. I had every second of it and now we can talk about it because the the story that like the worst stories of the best stories and and Yeah Bungee jumping is not my favorite thing. But there's no way like going to New Zealand and hanging homeys and getting this opportunities. Pro Bono was paid for right. Like Red Bull took care of it and we got the jump and I got to outshine you so that was cool so do you do you hate or love your nickname the force. Levin do you. Yeah why I mean because okay so actually Out of why don't ask anymore star wars like new livery or anything like that like you really. Don't really actually soup for eternity. Yeah right yeah I keeping the fourth aspect of IT and Yeah da going into cars. What's what's a vehicle that you wish. You never got rid of what vehicle you kind of bummed because you sold your championship convertible you've sold gotten rid of too many vehicles but what's vehicle. Maybe you'll be glad. I unloaded the car. They didn't need it right. I have to three seventy already Convertible car and the only one I would say that I wish I still had. Yeah because you did get rid of the SR Z. To thank John that that car went all the way to South East Asia and now the car that was like my first car and FD album convertible car. Like I just have so many like high low memories in that car my purse championship in that car and I would like to see that. One back Restored back to its like o-9 that up and everything you know like Coal from redline rations. Who BOUGHT MY CAR? And there's you know we're putting it back the two thousand sixteen livery And Everything. Oh you are For for him. Yeah he's GonNa run the twenty sixteen setup right the same set up your car. He also bought like eight pro or for one D one cars. I know he owns my favorite one which the top secret has fifteen. Yeah say he's Got Miki's car you got Kazama like over five Green Bean He got like one of the as a as he got one of the team arms. Like he's building probably they world. I drove me then. That's so sick. Really Cool Dude. Yeah what if you could if you could build any vehicle outside of what you're doing nissans and we talked about this on Formula Drifts. high-octane episode. But what what would you? What would you build outside of a Nissan Z? Like do you do. You admire anybody else's car and you're like I like to build a Mustang or I'd like to build like Osborne supra or something like that like do you have any probably just by the Rotary Got. Softbank for really when the Rotary now. That's true so do you like. Fd like a three row would be awesome. But you see kyle. Mohand Kinda struggling there a little bit. He could get those horses just getting that all dial together like do you. You Canada's wouldn't WanNa build become fishing day. I would want to build in. Yeah that's true. What podcasts are you listened to if any at all I'm really looking to many lately? No no yeah I I. Honestly Joe Rogan Bond Sh Traveling but like haven't been traveling Driving many places and so things like that. It's like whatever what What's the first thing you're going to do when you get a quarantine like where's the first place you're GONNA eat Really want go to the bike. Almost cry I mean like I like super bombed during Long Beach Time. Normally they're hanging on like I'm chatting with Chris created. That's why we did a little like like party like on my Instagram we raised a couple of hundred bucks with charities cool but yeah like like sucks like beach like my favorite event. Yeah so yeah definitely like you know. And he's he's bummed out. Of course you know. Pike's goes down and they all they want to hang out with all their friends and family and so I'm just to go back over. Yeah Pike Bar Cherian fourth in Long Beach if you're listening to this Best Bar the world. I mean absolutely Chris Rees the owner killer dude just just all around him and his wife and his whole family so Rad What what. What are you listening to right now in the garage? What's what's kind of like hot on the button and crank cranking for the past two days. There's something Boeing Marathon. I don't know why he didn't I had to look it up. He didn't He wasn't born and didn't die on this day or weekend in January. I don't know what it is. But they're like doing it like big Bowie marathon and I'm not upset about it. So He's been he's been through the afternoon and does Dylan Dylan you and Dylan. Hughes another form of computer for those. That don't know you guys sharing a lot of space a lot. I mean if if if you have the virus if Dylan has the virus you guys definitely have it together you guys you guys have been swapping spit been like four months of having it my four months out Walker Mary much Just work on cars and you know at Dara corn team. You know what I mean you know. I think everybody's got that yeah. Welcome to a blackout Cova. Petri dish garage. Yes are we're hanging out. Where would you Where would you like to visit again? We rattled off a few different places. Abu Dhabi drifting. He is marina but but personally I mean is there someplace you'd like to go I like to spend a little more time over in Europe. I've been a couple countries Never been to Spain. Barcelona Madrid things like that. Never been to I wonder if Germany once I was literally on the ground in Germany by twenty two hours whole event and everything. I like landed at like ten. Am went crash out of the hotel like five hours like a whole grid lifestyle Party Day night event and like party five. Am I way out in the morning at six? Great Great Segue speaking of grid life. Amazing event. We've we've gone now for quite a few years grid. Life has just grown into kind of a bit of a break in a party and I I had turned on the podcast and we talked about kind of some insane. No deals the fours align at road. Atlanta is probably. He said like the craziest most bonkers drift that he's ever done. Would you agree? That was kind of the craziest thing you've done especially in the in the party car in the fifty six four people holy crap. Okay so for those for those. That don't know breakdown grid life and then obviously the what you did And my favorite of all time and a Party THAT SURROUND TRACK RIGHT. And so you have on You Know Music Festivals You know going on deejays Banned fans rap bars Were you name it right and During the day as a full track session you got time attack wheel-to-wheel you got drifting and drifting has between Ryan along and like little teams ramps and things like that no competition a good old time and they come Sunday events pretty much clearer now Big shows are over and they'll come Sunday. They kind of like open up the talk a little bit to us and allow us to get No more high speed more You know hot laughs things like that and we have you know camera cars out there chasing us we are trying to push limits and say how fast cars and so wrote. Atlanta has a back strain that has an overcrowded king Which is where we lined up for as mind you if you go back and look at the video. We are entering before the burn outbox for the start line of trump in the video. Nick Swan standing where you basically leave the start line in. Fd Pro and your Jammie passed him in the F. Depressed art line now and so Dubbed the four the line. Because I'm saying knowing it. Stephen a try some real life where you go like back neck or let you go down the back straight and when you come over that little Chris than king on the right hander. You kinda like unwanted car and get it. Kinda settled out to the right and then transfer back on the throttle and driving down the hill. Push it left and we're basically like transferred back left like just after chicanes crafty and just drag it all the way in and we were heading. We were the first year. We're estimating our speed based on mph and deer and everything or coming like one forty one fifty We did a honest radar at like one of the one twenty seven but that was the next year camera cars so the first year. We're jam is in the second year. We're trying to coordinate with cameras. I was like a little slower. But we're still hitting almost one thirty That was definitely the dumbest thing I've done in a car. Really Melania would you do it again? I like draft tire in the grass. And it hooks up. You're going to come all the way down that hill. So you scare. You scared yourself. Would you do it again? I didn't think it was the dumbest thing and I'll never do it again at every time and obviously all the safety requirements. We've got helmets fully cades so cars have full cages. We're all wearing our helmets. And all the safety gear all that Hundred percent but still it would. It would just be a you know it could be potential or a gnarly crashes off speaking of gridlock more. What's that we're doing a tandem? That's right yeah. And that's why I without Bronx Clean Air. Yeah he's like front row and shit show Run headfirst into a mosh. Pit doesn't even know it to speak a mosh pit bloody noses. Andrew W K. That was probably one of your favorite shows. Yeah definitely Ended UP A game like Super Party. Put on a great show and He went for a ride in the car with him in the band around for a laugh and that was really fun. I really enjoyed that. Just like he just has like energy and like he's like super positive guys well like it's cool They're like GM perform. Now what are when when I asked you to be on this podcast you know I I sent tax to everybody and and you're Kinda like who do you have me on your basically. I sent the same text message to you. Von Turk few. You drifters in some people. Just kind of all it took was the first to respond response. That is why Ryan Turk was the first guest on the podcast. I'm glad to finally have you on here. Obviously and we're going to drop the boom but what kind of questions or kind of topics were you expecting for us to have kind of right now. 'cause got I don't really WanNa talk about like cars and all and all that stuff. That's our kind of symbiosis like our deal. But were more about like debauchery and drinking and like tripping home from Pike Bar. What were you expecting? What were you expecting you and I had to kind of talk about asking your car like working and stuff like that might have been talking about that crap all the time empties asked me about the car Now like no whole quarantine thing has been super frigging weird but like I gotta say like it's been it's been silly Sam same now right now jeeze every time. Do they get him? I can't help but been frigging great like the shop is better than ever. We're like productive or getting the business like set out more and Starting to make parts to merge Keshavan build more time dino like June the cars in Getting really doubt up and I literally like things are great having a Great Britain anytime you. I feel like on a better physician than ever. I understand that you know the whole. No Cohen is like very difficult or something happened in. That part sucks like racing. We'll to my wife to open a bottle of champagne by the way. What did you just? Elsa Skin Lit overhear yes Sunday Friday. Just won the mom championship all of a sudden even ever been the. She's undefeated right now. Mom Champ eighteen years in a row. I'm just trying to think of like some good times that we could share. I I'm looking at a A Picture on the wall from two thousand ten can't see the day. Looks like June six two thousand ten hall and OATES. We're in the Baltimore. Hey Doug Hall and oates one of the. It's probably like top. Three concert might even be the best concert I've ever been to it was. I don't know if I was the best like show I've ever seen but it was the best show that I've ever been to is the best. Securi- group I grew we had was in Spain. Thank we have. What thirty people there? Dude YEAH SO JUNE. Two thousand ten. This is post Formula Drift New Jersey. And do you remember? Who HERE WE GO? Statman remember who won that event? June June two thousand ten former New Jersey. Here we go a beautiful mind right now. Just Cadillac Unity. The numbers on for sure. Okay Yeah I think you only on podium and I did not. I know that Parker go look it up on the phone. Recent on the podium. Okay here we go and look I send you this funny. Oh I sent you that Steven Seagal video by the way You Gotta. Watch that later. I said have you seen it now? I really enjoy a goal and then go. They're definitely not taken sunglasses men. I got my statman over here. Parker is GonNa look who won Formula Drift. June two thousand ten podium for Formula Drift. So what do you got any company? What do you need Dylan? I Dunno endorsed only meal on in front of that look out. There's some crazy Mexican Dude Kim Marshall. How many how many nerds and black hats can you fit in one bathroom right now? You Got Kinen and dillon us. Hey Down Dylan bathrooms. So we got room down onto Dylan. How doing yeah doing alright. Got The fixed flat fix the flair me going to pick your flight. I the VEGEMITE flat out. We do all of this week Yeah seriously like all right I I can't see. Can you see Barker's looking it up so so the the hall and Oates Concert Post Formula Drift New Jersey? All of us go from New Jersey. Is that up or down to. I know I know one no way. No way who wanted did no. It says von won the championship that year in two thousand and ten with two victories along on race way Conrad One. I'm calling it. Wow okay hold on Burger. Help me out here. My staff my staticial guys is a little slow over here. Parker's I told Him Jersey two thousand and ten. That's what I said all right so after form of New Jersey. We all again upper down. Which WAY IS MARYLAND FROM JERSEY? I'm terrible on the east coast so we went south. It's raining on her way. There we go. Everybody goes to every RONDOS DEVAN king. Junior's house and we got celebrities like junming got June main. There we got we got. We Got Andy Saf. Any SAP is in the building. We got Brian Eggert. We have Brian Wilkerson but then mad. Mike Tony Turk Vaughn. You me why. What's that done there and then Ryan Dunn and His Lady Angie There so recipes Ryan John? Shout at them out. But I'm in my in my living room. So there you go you dumped it out down your gullet but yeah Ryan down there. There were thirty of US man in like the whole crew. Mike Gillyard cousy. Was there people that were talking about that? People listening. Don't know but dude. It was poetic. Because we ron boot involves house. We all took different cars. I remember pornography was playing in one suburban at one point when? We're driving down there with Stephanie. When we get there we rendezvous Ryan Dunn and his chick and win at this at this venue. Peer six in the in the in the Maryland. Harbor you come from the back of the stage and do you recall this or am I just making this up where we come from the behind the stage we look over and I swear. I'm joking winked at me but then like but you know like first guitar. Chord Hits Win. Walking renowned timing and like so many people can relate to this like the just the the concert experience. And sometimes you're like all right like you know you make my dreams come true. I remember that coming. I mean that Manila's breaking your workers are gone. It was like it was like getting out of line low where we knew nothing happening and yeah we like get through that gate and you're right it's just like like it was starting like. Oh my God all hold up to the grass and Guy That big sponsored parties. Oh yeah and we had like our own bar. I mean we're we're Kinda gloating here but it. It's four rightful reason because it was absolute parker. Looked it up. And he's he's he's seen that Frederick Osborn one former New Jersey winter two thousand ten Frederick Oslo now twenty four hours. I when I wasn't even around in twenty ten parker you're fired the final twenty four and then I hit him he won. That was well. Parker you're fired. Go back in the pool we have. Let's ask God does not check out so I'm GonNa do facts on the fact guy. He's he's fired from my family's thirteen years old and he didn't even have a job. Are you gonNA look it up right now? I feel like you're looking at up once you go grab that other beer. Grab that other bureau. Quick grab the Fancy Board here. Yeah exactly so look look it up. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa talk about you I don't know. Can you hear me if I keep talking but Chris Forsberg in our in our relationship goes back quite a bit? And I'll catch up on this but How Forsberg and I met was actually via Tony. Angelo and Tony Angelo. Who's now again a hot rod garage doing a lot of stuff with motor trend? I read an article about Tony and Chris Forsberg and Matt Petty while they were attempting to compete in d. One and they drove from Pennsylvania New Jersey respective east coast locations all the way to Irwindale California while I was working at Racer magazine. I read an article in wired about drifting. And I'd already been in the tuner world for quite some time and reading story about these east coast. Kids that drove cross country and they they kind of mashed up graphically some initial D graphics in with these kids that are wearing You know just like rock and roll t shirts. I'm trying to think of a riverboat. Gamblers or something that that petty was wearing a shirt. Do you remember what shirt was? Was it riverboat? Gambler sure that somebody was wearing. I mean I used to ever Rogaine. Which ripples kind of cried favorite serpent shirt you get really drunk and rowdy. Get like really Feisty Randy feistiest Nellie I know I mean because the only reason why is because you you can deal. They couldn't take it. No POCONO grabby you. You'd be like like freak out condition but he can't handle it now like someone into a seven eleven grammy me like real hard and like read much. Leave off or shirt you were pretty mad. I don't know if you heard me telling the story about how we met is is through Tony Angelo. Because I read the article wired about you petty Tony and Basically Tony. I reach out to Tony via aim via somebody else. That knew him. I was wearing resear- magazine. I like the sport. Drifting didn't really know much about it reading the story where it's intermeshed initial D fast forward to me inviting Tony Angelo. To come live with my recently married wife and I in San Diego Pro Bono. For like nine months he didn't pay a single cent he lived with us. And you told me about East Coast Drifta. And this is actually. This might be a good story to tell right now is Tony. Tony was living in my house to clean up. Make your bed. We're all good and I wasn't making a ton of money. I don't know what just inspired me to do this. But if it wasn't for me reached out to Tony and finding the drifting world and what's going on because I'd been in the tuner culture for so long but understanding drifting and also I'd never been to the East Coast really like I'm trying to think I don't even think New York prior to that but T. bones making a cameo here is just saying what's up just getting out of the pool So Tony Tony lives with us in like a month or so into it. He kinda tells me he's like yeah. I got this friend Chris Forsberg and he's living up in Orange County. And because you got put on by signal auto and do you remember kind of us in our first encounter. I think I know I know A bunch of times. But I couldn't tell you like our I. I wonder that's what you mean. I don't think I couldn't put it out but I think it was either going to the signal autoshop or going to your apartment where you live with that. Do the had the white Z. That eventually crashed or broke his front bumper with. He was a little have aggressively into another car doing that. We shouldn't have been doing and it wasn't making power to do the turn like you know slid out. What was that Disney hired turn? What was that name again? I can't remember June Parker. Says what's up to braiding hair because it's so long during quarantine times are you. Have you shaved your head yet or anything man? She's going on out. Oh man weren't keeping on. Yeah so so so getting getting like getting to getting to know you so Tony. Tony tells me about you. We go up to Orange County a signal auto and on the On not outs but yeah. We weren't really trying too much that we kind of bringing back again because we both we went. Our separate ways only moved to California island in Long Beach and he was like nor count for a minute and then went to your place and it was like okay. We're still trying to get the same goal. Like smooth is all out but yeah so I remember when we first met him. I remember going to your place. Then we went to Show and you. You put the Gumbo stick. I remember watching you. Put It on sticker on the hood of your way. Wrx and Maximillian. Was there your car parked in a corner now? The person hung out. I remember that Godoy car show meet up thing But yeah so we did and hung out and then you came back to my apartment because I think it was that that show was that day and then like my apartment that night. Yep and Remember Tony. Pool the Ebrahim on your car. I'll do corner in your it wasn't it wasn't just a corner we were. We were leaving like Irvine Spectrum and I'm driving and coming around like a big. Like you know cloverleaf. Turn in California and Tony Yanks pulls the handbrake and totally come around. These is dying laughing. I'm like what like what are you doing. You dumb ass could frigging died. Amazing Times with Eto Alex pfeiffer Tommy Angelo Lindsey Ross. Do you remember the time? When Alex Pfeiffer know who fell asleep and somebody put their testicles on somebody else's face was that pass down and head bald on that guys say I wanNA say it was that. Yeah yes it was. That was a that was a classic time. So in Miami around the rotary secret days or living in the shop where scooter races and then like there's one time Oh I'll close conrad versus pollock and then also look starts regular win. Twenty Eleven Ever The final that wall twenty eleven talk back to my original gut. Feeling Reese in Bonn in them. That's kind of a good calculated kind of estimation of given the given the names in the The Times. Yeah but yeah. So we What was I gonNA say Singing Orlando Secret. And we're just like you know super-party blockhouse clubhouse saying aside and we're doing three spree. Scooter races around the building and My Buddy I worked on said the best time. Really come between six and all that and My buddy comes around the corner like light skinned up and the things a little scratched out walking with ended. Like Oh man you know like Mandalay your bike down right and like it wasn't destroyed and of course it's like this is kind of inevitable. You're leading like six guys rage. Scoot around building. Someone's GonNa wipe out like we're just pick on some rats and comes limited APP and by looking at it like we own had like maybe a little look like throw the voting knock like wow was not as bad as it is now and then I put in his car and left and I'm pretty sure that's when we kind of stopped hanging out with them. That would be battle version. Alex Alex Pfeiffer broke his scooter and he got really pissed. And now hang out much after that you and speaking of Tony Angelo. He's just kind of integral part of of our relationship by the way. What are you drinking right now? What's what's your fancy boy beer. So is that basically my there. May A friend of brand came by Nebraska's he found this. So you're saying there's no better public. Have you ever heard of that? Yep Bear drift racer and it's a two forty down there. Yeah it has yeah has has drifting on their contract. Brinson dude and has like for those that can't see it looks kind of animation like speed. Racer Rising Sun Z. Going sideways with racing stripe number five and eight percent did yeah. Bear won't speed lines on it going the wrong direction totally well bear bear. Public always had had racer five racer. Five is always been a staple of the bear republic brewery because they always have had five but the drift racer going sideways. Because it's a double. That's why I think it's because it's a little more sideways. Yeah interesting mix and I know brought that I was like Oh know under I could show you there you go so I'm GonNa go ahead and Change Ramona I'm going to reach out to them and And See if can get get that sponsored You know I just want people to kind of listen into our dumb conversations that we have and I'm trying to think 'cause would just start rambling about things but I don't know if we can really kind of elaborate into what what are normal dumb conversations really break down to what's what's your what's what's your favorite incident. What yeah what's your favorite instagram account? Either should steve or Why people they're pretty good. How about I guess for me because I'm a dad Is Middle Fancy like Nansen ran down? I mean everyone but it's it's it's a continuous theme. The guys come in. Are they coming in. Take some more toys from me right now. I keep walking by the window. So my name something. They've they keep coming in here. I'm just trying to mind dump. Just take my reason being around Dylan Hughes. Do you feel. Do you feel like you're kind of living vicariously living vicariously through you as like a good simpatico of of each other bring great old time dude. You guys like seem like you're having so much fun right now. I feel like you're I don't know it seems like you're a young youthful self exactly Now like you know like I said. I can't say like happy about the quarantine. That's not what I mean by this at all right. Let me say it's very poor Chan. We WANNA RAISE SAYING. We want everything to the open. We want people to not have hardship but Just the change in the pace of what has been going on around here has been like like what you what we have. Recently it's been like Some of the best like weeks I've ever had because it's like we're like we're like like working at a average pace. We're getting stuff done. We're not stressed out or like just having an incredible amount of fun and good times while still working while still being productive and like this is like everything I've ever wanted and this whole sport this whole chase of running a shop running a business and trying to be a pro driver like it's baby like peeking out right now and not that. I think we'll go away once we hit the track again. I think I like pause. Allowed him to like catch up buying like really feel one step behind. You know it's like Oh we got we got. We got and like difficult like his at mark and be able to You know It's always one step ahead. Yeah Yeah because especially as you look at other people and look at other. It's like it's so easy to like compared to other teams other drivers. And when you're looking at like you thirty forty other guys and you're saying like you're picking out like oh. That guy's doing best in that guys doing doing this the best. So you just compare jump like tend to people and possible right. Yes yeah so. My James Does like a talent competition events and love and killed it and then got volunteers doing like a lot of you. Know Variety events running the business. And then you got other people that are designing parts and building partially other guys are focused strictly emerging. And you know I think that strictly only video content and I should do it. All is super right. Yeah we're like kind of hitting that point right now that that I mean that's my it's it's like it's like it was it was buffering and it's finally like it's kind of like before before this podcast like all right. We're skype and we're calling okay. You're a little glitch. Now I can hear you but it's just not focused and now it's like you with the with the CO vid unfortunately case the silver lining for you is that. It's just gaining some clarity. Oh My Gosh. This is just like my. This is dude. Mind bullets right now right. This is just metaphorically speaking. Exactly what happened? You finally getting some clarity and you could see just long distance you can see the scope hold on. I'm going to ask Parker Parker. Go in the fridge. There is a the silver one to swing top. Go and fill me up I would like the cerebral brewing Denver. Colorado I have the the Sour Tiki Ale which is banned by the way. It is the best leave me. We will go there. You got your kids born bears. No what priorities. That's why have kids bartenders. Built in Goodwood Festival of speed. That aval that rivals good trip I. I knew you were going to say that because you're like a video because that's one of my favorite stories about time. Allow a lion stories right. Yeah it's like can't can you guys play the keynesianism so br break it down. Because again I don't I don't WanNa be the one to talk so much here but Forsberg what year. That was your first goodwood festival speed correct. Who's your I? I'm running and we go by saying at the time. Moore Marsha incredible and there's String Orchestra they're right like five or six so pretty small but very very talented. And they're playing amazing music. And you like stumble out there and really driving for the day don announcing for the day or just like we weren't belligerent. But wish someone up there with a couple of days God hilarious but but let me let me back up real quick because when we passed it earlier in front of the Goodwood House. We did hear them. Play the game of Thrones Anthem Dent today and we are the were hot and heavy into into game of thrones. So it's going in and we're done with the day we go get a little. Pim's we get some little a couple of drinks in us and then when we come out and it wasn't just strings because they did have clarinets. Because you need those are. They did have like an oboe right. I mean so they have. It's not just string so when we walked out both you and I feel a little little little brave couple couple tattooed. Yankees in a British land smiled and gave him a vegemite sandwich. Joking and we go over to the plan of game of thrones again right. Yes it was like that you later and we wanted to film it right. They're gonNA play. The thing warmed up. They're playing like you know and it was your idea. I know the Star Wars Dung and I'm like wait. Why would they have that or no? That can you like like. Can you play the continues on one? Like violinist woman and she's like yeah yes I just like laughing at us right but with one and two and three took the canteen song and they all like my turn their pages over but then that'd be team. Yes Yeah Okay and and that that and that event as a whole is such a good going off. It's those moments that I think that you and I truly enjoys the juxtaposition of life of like here. We are across the you know. I mean just across the pond not across the globe but we have been aggressive globe to Dubai to the Middle East to New Zealand but goodwood and this is what three years ago two years ago. Yeah so yeah so seventeen. I'm terrible at this at all blue. Together Yeah so we we go experience. This was that before or after you crashed into the Hay bales clearly before that was clear quite clearly. Nine oh I don't know actually no no. I think it was Sunday. Wasn't it was you who may drive that? First Session Sunday. Which is why we're having our early start. That's right that makes more sense. 'cause WE DRIVE SUPER LATE. Sunday or Saturday and we go straight into show way. Aso's Sunday As we did two sessions one like first thing in the morning and then went off and like a broken arm. you'll back and basically like Huckabee car back together Somebody panels and we went right back out because we're like thirty. Am and then like ten am and then we're done for the day they do the He'll climb so it was like all right like hey mail them fix the car and then you know like we do the run Fix The car and do the second Brian. We didn't miss anything all right like I didn't bring drink day to finish it up. And then we just started getting hot and heavy with the the orchestra and that's like I was saying. That's the juxtaposition that I think you. And I both enjoy and especially drifters in general the kind of expectation or what people have the preconceived idea of who we are and you you actually got the invite for. Lord marches exclusive dinner. And here we are sitting next to Lamar winner. I couldn't I can't even think the names right now. But they're legendary racers and and we're sitting down what's that Shara shared with with hill dare kill and then we know we hung out with Tom Christianson. We hung out eraser BMW. I can't remember their names are escaping me right now but legendary dudes. We're the only had short sleeved shirts on because we I didn't know we're going to this thing. And you had no expectation but the juxtaposition of it all is that we are completely warranted to be there. We're allowed. We're allowed to be there because of because of not who? We are. Not by a pompous sort of attitude but because of the caliber of diversity that the world is now right. I mean it's a it's a fairly generalized statement but I thoroughly enjoy not making people uncomfortable but challenging them to the point where it's like. Who is this guy? What is he doing here? I we're rightfully allowed to be there. Because if you're talented driving in your prowess and who you are how you stand what you've done what you've accomplished what you're bringing to the show. That is good with vessel speed and you could sit next to somebody who has competed or one or or or done this or you know the. Michelin this person. That person you know getting getting really kind of You know insightful on this concept but that that kind of that kind of a bit say it again. I said it's pretty wild dinner to attend like you said like the the cover of people that are at that dinner for us to be bunch of drifts kids you know from nowheres. Pa Hanging out with these like Jerry racers and you know Lamont winters and F one champion and Blah Blah Blah and. We're just like Yeah we're like one of the twenty five I can To go on the highlight show at Goodwood. Yeah Yeah are you are you did you get an invite for twenty twenty. I know obviously being pushed do pushing everything. Yeah I did twenty twenty one shaped one best counter your overhead. Often we're lined up to do I A twin turbo car upgraded. I put a change in that car. So now it's like ready to try and do The rebel drifters event and Goodwood. And then come back here at the end of the year so think we're GONNA do a European tour and then we had 'em doing the grid life tour and then we had a guard on shore and not even conflicted. It was an incredible lineup. Sorry you ended their abruptly. I'm just thinking about yeah but again. We'll we'll see we'll see how it all pans out I I'm not gonNA say that a I'm upset and change in the schedule and everything else 'cause like I said so. Many other things have happened Because of the change of pace because we have basically had the same in and out schedule like How do I? It's very repetitive. Every very repetitive right. And so this has been a shake up that I've really needed And not just be like okay. Sima okay off season okay rebuild the car okay like go to FDA okay for good lines. You know the same thing and I love and continue to do it right like we're still competitive or winning events we're still like in championship punts and we still have an amazing have a good life and we still love rides and all the things are great but there's Complete change has like changed my perspective on some things and married I would say my life a lot better Yeah just just having that clarity and that kind of sense too that that moment to breathe. Yeah 'cause you're just you're in the hamster wheel every day. Yeah this isn't actually once you're out you're like oh another thing like you know just kind of like just opened up the Opened up the path or and I'd say the pass it put the monotony. Yeah you don't you yes you can do your Lawn Avenue. Open more avenues of Ways to grow the business ways to Potentially a have a you know a living and also More happiness and more fun as they said just doing the same time over and over you know old because waste time. We all the time in between. It's just like your spokes. Earning both in the next thing. Now it's like pause and this break go like wow. We should work on this whole week. And whatever towards this and now like so. I really enjoyed it. Hey put it that way by. It's been beneficial for me because it can be beneficial for anyone. You gotta just find out how it works for you and what a complete change of everyone's daily Monotony Can do for them silverline. Yeah there's perspective. It gives you perspective as far as assessing what your program looks like. What's going down? It's kind of like sitting in the waiting room doctor's office. Some people are awaiting death. Some people are waiting birth. Some people are waiting to find out. They're pregnant when people are finding out that they have cancer. They're going to die. Some people are going to get great news that they don't have cancer cured. So it's about it's in that waiting room in that law that sometimes you get the best sense of clarity and actual realization of saying like all right. Suck IT UP. Chris. Suck it up jared. You'RE GONNA be okay or you're going to get some bad news and you're going to deal with it and you're going to deal with it accordingly or you're waiting room and like you might get dealt some bad news. What are you GonNa do with that? Are you GonNa go like you say like you know not the you know? Say this is no big deal but you know like say someone is diagnosed with terminal illness. Illnesses that okay. You got you got a year. What are you GonNa do with it right? Wallow in it you're gonNA live life to the fullest and so like you know. Been trying to like find buying those avenues and live a better life. We're kinda going reverse here because I started things off with where you are in the current and then you know normal podcast like tell me about your childhood telling me. Show me on the dull where he touched you. Whatever I'm joking ask but podcast get into like the core being of who people are and all that and and I feel like I'd rather not do that with you but at the same time I feel like people listening to this. Want to listen to to people that that love each other and all have shared many experiences together but I I love the maybe the question. There's a question here as well as education of what Chris Forsberg and you've put it out there you started to drift because you took the lawnmower out and you threw that into gear and he started just doing wheelies and drifting around on a lawnmower. What would you be doing? What would you be doing if you weren't drifting I? It's hard to say I I liked working on cars. I started working on cars before it started drifting and then I went to the restaurant And that's made all my money like by car. Part Right. Apartments thinks that like if I didn't have his goal like becoming a driver I I probably wouldn't. It was like taking easy straight night like becoming a bartender and just like you at a Party. Guy Fun and I was like. I was the only reason why I didn't become a bartender at fun because I left right mind turned twenty one killing at that restaurant like I went for my. You know busboy. Expediter to like headed the kitchen. So like Bar Back and was like you know had all the the best barbeques shifts and the only reason why. I didn't become the bartender there. Because it was twenty one when I moved and I quit moved to California and became a bartender like making you a couple of grand a month like like that like you know that they make a lot of money probably just continue living that life of like. Oh Martha on the weekends. I work on my car and maybe doing some project and like I don't really seem that is why would have been if I didn't have a higher goal. Yeah because your parents gave you an ultimatum. They said hey go to college or will buy your Z. Z. Eventually I don't think it was. It wasn't that cut and dry. Yeah I know that but like I mean well truth be told it was You know I was going to community college. Now here's the thing you know like we understand. You want your goal this idea this drain. We'll help you with that And then you know we'll see how it goes and so I told my RX7. I gave them the eighth grade. I got from it. We put that into a down payment for the cosign for the and they helped me with the payment on it like the first year so I could get out to California and drive and so I did that and then they had like no money the time so they helped me with the payments like the first year and then students like. I got out there like six months later while two months later they announced the Sima Right. 'cause I got the cow point October. Oh three drift show and whatever They announced all. That's going good and so then I turned into a sponsors. This is that right until like okay. There's like you know parts whenever coming in and then as soon as That kind of started happening then like I took over payments and I was paying that the three hundred forty bucks a month or whatever it was Until two thousand eight. Wow Nice car had been burning whenever four times over. You're making payments on a Nissan financing. Yeah that is that's that was was trip and And and the thing that they did they helped me to get the truck dodge because reliable and whatever and so I had to dodge. I drove out to California and then it was Within a year within the first year of me having it it was like oh well like you have people that transport your car for you so like you know. You don't need a truck and so like I spent the truck that couldn't make payments on it right and so it became a farm truck Ripping around back in PA and then in two thousand seven three years later. After I lost the outcome ride I was like hey like so if I like taking over payments on that truck and I use it. 'cause I needed biking truck smell but I got the truck back. Seven made a duly. 'cause I just got Are from foul again and needed Driving my stuff around. I picked up a forty trailer. Now is the start of the far and that whole nonsense and running my own teams. I've been doing it for fourteen years. Now somebody get stories and this is just the tip of the iceberg. And if you want to hear more stories just hang out with us in the form of Paddock. After an event you'll hear more more skin to win more beers more good times. I know oh I know I say look for another time. Yeah we should and normally like an hour about an hour about an hour admittedly more some more energy history and other. Yeah and admit. How are you doing now? This is like public public. Therapy is basically yeah Turk was the first episode and his was the shortest. It was like thirty five minutes because I was just kind of like feeling it out. Seeing what's going on and I could go longer with Turkey obviously and we have some great history but United eight hours. Nobody wants to listen to that. If we if we get more drinks and Essex it could get better only if we had Chris Reese and the Pike Bar and the and the best jukebox in southern California. Thank you so much boy. I love you and Brown. Yeah man so for more information on Chris Forsberg Goto at Chris Forsberg sixty four out Chris Forsberg dot org dot edu slash l slash Gov dot Gov but backslash dot com backlash Forsberg forest. Last Forsberg. Chris Forsberg Chris. Forsberg hits the win. Thank you so much man. I really truly appreciate it. Thank you so much and I will be talking to you real soon my friend.

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20190902

Brethren of the Lord Jesus Christ

30:03 min | 1 year ago

20190902

"Okay i'm doing a little port cost again. You know the multitude over words leads only to penury absolute poverty and steel. I'm doing a little cost here because it was <hes> all that it's something i've been doing for a long time and maybe you know it leads to penury but that's what i've been doing doing so at some things have happened lately justice morning actually or i should say about probably was around one o'clock doc swedish time to the night so one a._m. Source day morning. I didn't know the twenty second today all olga store or twenty for that. At least it's thursday what happened was that a woman and probably her friend complained the video that i've been doing called gospel tribal wars part four and this video wants a youtube amd basically it was just a continuation of gospel tribal. The war sparked three where this woman also was mentioned and she basically she <hes> complain about the coup said that i was sir <unk> gossiping thrown and i was <hes> i was a bully a bully under goal slipping troll she called me and this woman is called shan today sean three and she's part of the king james bible brian damning air philip newton community. You could call as she's also active. I think on the king james video ministry dot org forum and this is a group of people that are king gains bible believers dispensational led by brian denlinger <hes> who is <hes> have a special role there there you know when when you wanna they wanna save someone a video made by brian telling it's it's a lot about him. I think personally but but you if you i'm probably going to make pulled cost of all these four gospel tribal wars course videos so there's gonna be a appalled cost. I'm going to just put them all together and make immune to one m._p. Three and upload it as opposed cost and it's really just about some conflicts blitz that occurs between within the king james bible community on youtube between <unk> those who have a different gospel people so it's the romans ten gospel versus the faith alone gospel and i think that both these gospels those are valid in the sense that romans ten is also faith alone. You know really if you read it but but they wanted to somehow i don't know i think it's it's faith alone. It's bhai by grace through faith in christ alone that we saved and and i think that grown lately as a believer because i realized that that's the stuff about how people go wrong. I'm i'm noticing youtube. Also in conflict between another two other groups on youtube called a forerunners story in which is <hes>. I think it's called old baptists a radio or something <hes> it's a guy called ryan and a guy called david and then it's against the grease grease community and there is a free grace community on you within the king gangs bible cristiano christian june faith you know so and this kenyans bobby it's basically was mostly <hes> accusations of pedophilia against a person called jacks ex mc seven seven which turned out to be full cassation's and then there are other people involved here shannon cole grace gospel evangelism and there are other channels a standard bearer and since the preacher <hes> and renew rowland and so on these are would you could go free grace channels and they have had a conflict which ended up that they are going to seem so it could even go to court and they are going to. They seem like someone claim that they're trying to get them off youtube and might even press criminal charges though they have not done that this point has so so this is what i see going on on youtube. It's it's people comparing themselves among themselves yourselves and it says in the king by but that these people are not wise and i think we should be holding the head ourselves and the head this slow jesus christ so we should actually not have faith in christie's but rather in christ and this is. I think where people go wrong and where i've gone gone also almost gone wrong. You know it's good to separate yourself when you notice someone is not when the word of god tells you the scripture. The king has to separate yourself from a person it's good to do so. Also you know and you know what what happened to me lately when i come to this realization about all of this is when i actually stop listening to englishman. The englishman is called justin uterus. It's got a shadow you to call justin yuji's but also has had other channels on youtube call lucas stabber or accident bro justin. I'll be listening to him. He doesn't new audio every sunday and it's kind of like livestream inter bit interactive and then for about fifty minutes long and then i listened used to listen to that and i had no idea how much this order affected me <hes> because i think he does it. He says he he's doing what he called. Personal preaching or you know there is no other preaching them personal preaching and that's true in a sense but i had no idea affected me so much because what i did now what i've been doing now as i say hi to him as soon as it goes on you know about the ten minutes to nine swedish local local time i say hello justin and good evening everyone back but then i actually don't listen so much more maybe ten minutes or something i listen oh five minutes i don't know and then i totally doll turn. The sound off did something hang out what i noticed. This was as if it was a different reality and so he has some ability to influence people to sway people and to heels. It's very you know a coaching and positive coaching is kind of is doing the people talking thing that basically we are best show. The only one there are saved or so and what made me start to do this with against his focus was first of all i got. I had problems on mondays. I had cravings to buy stuff for monday's yesterday off. Never tried to figure out where it came from and <hes> but anyway what i eventually i've been using scripture to sort this out and this is the way i think any were born again. Lord jesus christ soft in their life and i've been amazed at how things have sought itself out when i use scripture to sort it out because scripture cannot be broken and this english man just in new jersey who basically leads people away from scripture. You had a guy that he talked to for seven years called role in dall- who got youtube channel called light ship for christ and he also has a blog. I think it's called ship ministries and <hes> don't call or something or dot wordpress dot com. I don't remember and <hes> this rolling down. He didn't <hes> you know he was all about the holy goals than and doing what the holy ghost towel thing him to do and listening to the holy ghost and it was almost like a horton has in his daily walk in that he couldn't go back to king james bible in fact it wasn't even using the by using the english standard version and this guy most talking to the englishman yes the news eventually got an infection in his pacemaker and it was actually very close to a very nasty death breath because here was told they couldn't operate the are the pacemaker they said so he would have to have it until he died and take continuous continuous <hes> antibiotics to suppress the infection eventually would become immune to the antibiotics and then he will die said had you know the people but then there was a sojourn surgeon who was a pioneer in something called think give tunnel laser search surgery and this person i think i think he actually went in through the blood vessels at with his sawed surgical laser and then he did the the surgery three through the blood vessel something or i don't i don't understand but i think it was called. Doctor lob also and this is in the u._s._a. And i think he saved the life of this role in jail so they managed to he got a new pacemaker and they removed the infection but irwindale was so mad at the justice huges how he had behaved when he got infected by this baker justin. You said he was chastised. By god. Then roland del thought that was evil to say that or something so they broke their friendship after seven years of videos which is was existed on a road cost site called radio labrador dot dot com seven years of ordeals there and i have all these old use <hes> on my i saved them and justin you just have chosen to let these ordeals dies so the site is gone now and that made me start also doubt justin you. He's a genuine authenticity and everything and then i see when i came on me jack smack seven seven. He says these people teach that. Once saved always saved is not true in that you know just an eugene teacher that you have to stop sending so it's kind of seamless perfection together with that one single which is not true and jackson. These people are either. They lost or they liars. They deceived he says i think it's correct correct to say that people who teach that <hes> you must stop singing the people who say that they have stopped sending are are deceiving themselves because i don't the people. I think people have wrong definitional. What scene is is because if you go into the bible see that there are loads of things in the bible so to stop all these things i don't think any human being has been able to do that and and <hes> it says in the bible in one place that in the letters of john that he says he has not seen this a liar and the truth truth is not in him now. There are two interpretation of this verse one interpretation is that he says he has not seen the you know since he was born bye bye watered was born as a shine that person is a liar and the truth is he's not doing an days actually one person who did not seen since he was born because jesus christ pose big often <hes> <hes> born here on earth from you know mary and he'd never seen in his life here north so but there's no other person person who has accomplished that of that but we as christians supposedly you know we we can come to faith in jesus christ them be born again. Yeah and there are different definitions of this. You know that there is a it says in the bible that we do not commit sin and in the letters of john so we do not commit sin because the seed remain athena's but another place it says he said he has not seen a liar so basically some interpreted so jack smack seven seven at christie's do practice same mm-hmm but they do not commit sin because the senior bathed in them basically there's <unk> have been saved they have been redeemed and so they are no longer when they do sin. It is not them that same. It's more the flesh just savings and that's a position also of rickman. He talks about that. They're basically we've been cut loose from our flesh nature though we still have our flesh nature still have a physical ball did did that has flesh lust so to speak so <hes> while there's another interpretation of this worse this verse that says he that says he has not seen is a lawyer and the truth is not in us the <unk> interpretation is that it it goes back to the fall of adam and that basically everyone has was one a senior officer adam but you know people get bowling again and then they stop upsetting but they did see because there has seen but not lost week or the last month if they'd been born again for thirty years you haven't seen for thirty years but they did seem before that before they got born again you know so that's the other interpretation so this is really really question on should a person stop sinning and i ah come to the belief that that <hes> justin uses is deceived received on deceiving others in the sense that he says he has stopped singing. I think he's deceived in his belief that he does not say so. I don't think that he you know <hes>. I think he doesn't understand. I know about the himself so i think he's a seasons sear but since the early wrong and that's exactly what some people call the ball said about kennedy copeland you know he will sincere but sincerely wrong now. I don't want to make comparisons between yesterday can copa but i want to point out that justin justin users does promote andrew warm who is a charismatic faith healer so we have this charismatic s. matic element in just a nutrient and i've listened to some other charismatics and i've heard them use terminology that just in utah uses and you know i mean thinking back at that because i was stuck in a kind of i was stuck in something when i was the fellowship in with is two timothy three case matic christian who was into <unk> hagen and then i was listening listening to justin you choose who is promoting a charismatic faith healer you know though he says he's andrew war mac back in you know he's been noses. Zola budd short. She's no longer but it's somehow speaks well of him so so basically as i managed to to this associated with myself for this fellowship from the charismatic mine who has been very difficult to to deport from actually because <hes> you know it's been very difficult but i managed understood do that basically through through the scripture the scripture told me that i was to turn away from him so physically turned away from him and that actually worked eventually because it's difficult pulled when visit churches and all this stuff you know how sorted out and i actually had to kind of stop all duties in the church because you know if you have a duty in the church someone can just come up to you. Call walk away so easily so i've been have different life now without you to the church where basically have the rule that should be able to get out at shows within five seconds all the time. That's how it actually works so but my point here is said so i come to the conclusion that justin huges is deceived and deceiving others and i'm not saying that he's not saved might very well be saved because he could save before it came in contact with judge you know but he's deceived and the that's why i stopped listening to him and stop listening to you. You know i still say hi to him. On sunday. Sit still recording here now like listen through but before i used to listen to as way to handle church before charging off the church and this day the thirsty. I've tried something different. I chose to not do that. I don't listen to him before church because because i actually you can be quite quite a resort person and that's the way to you know be prudent and <hes> the bible is better and that's what i discovered is much better. Listen to alexander scoreboard lee reading proverbs. We'll maybe aby psalms but prefer be provokes. I think when it comes to help to behave and how to deal with the world and <hes> <hes> so sorry i read proverbs today then i went searching work perfectly and so we don't have to have i think it's some some some people don't notice it but it's actually they think it's all holiness in them and that you know just a new teacher said oh they attack us because we're holy and so on and might it. It could be true you know but <hes> still. I think that you know how can anyone argue against the the king. James bible is better than listening to some guy. We're all human beings and <hes> the word of god is not so that's what i just. That's the argument i've had because i've been trying with his christian for so long. Yesterday i listened to jack seven seven saying that he had prayed people into prison three people he had prayed that they should go to prison and they went to prison. I don't think that's a nice thing to do so i've been started thinking. All christians really nice people and might sound terrible but actually scriptural basis for that. One people are evil. You know they were all evil but it's just a faith that believe we have something common faith but really you know we don't have to because i've had before the belief that all lost the people are evil but the righteous are not and i still think that's true actually donahue jackson sayings prayed people into prison and i heard just in talking about you know that he's prayed that god would deal. You're with someone and he got before. God you know <hes> aneurysm heart attack or something you you know maybe christie's can have good thoughts and good ideas but they're still seem to be have the fledgling nature and the the the ability to do evil and basically what has happened lost few days thinking brian downing made video actually recalled don't have faith in christians and that's basically it. Don't have faith in christians have faith in christ and read your bible listen to alexander score. You know follow it. Because what i've discovered is that these christians turn on you. I had this two timothy three christian basically trying to to utterly destroy me and this was someone who was reading the bible. He read the entire bible in three months in all he was a lot about being righteous and stuff and so i tried to understand why would he do this to me. You know i thought people who who believe in christ were good people and jackson mc says they don't have to be you know can be real seniors and you know i think that can be other explanations regarding. These is two timothy three christie. I don't think he's saying because he said when he got saved said god told them he was allowed to work. Eat sleep. I know but some work salvation to me and works ovation is dr and saved tate's worked up nation so but of course i can't be sure <hes> but i decided to to this fellowship him for good because he did this. Try to destroy me and i realized he falsely accused me on it says in the bible they should turn away from. I just follow the scripture. That's there's nothing to do with anything else and that's what i do now to follow the scripture and what has been revealed to me. What i believe is that he was asked no seeing this aligarh and i i believe actually that all the christians are sinning. Even the people who like justin users who claim they have been saved from sin. Yeah i agree we have been saved from sin. If we're born again because we do not commit sin because seemed remain in us so we have been saved from sin but i still you think they practicing christians and as such if they say they don't practicing i think he's a liar and when i realized the truth is not in which means he doesn't have the spirit of christ in it because the truth lisa spirit of christ so why just simply stop listening. They're a bit i'm. I'm gonna probably gonna listen through israel or you're better. I might only listen to it once from now on. I've actually been listening through many times and i think that that i didn't notice how it kind of the came out a mind controlling factor to listen to his audience because once i stopped listening to us and sold my problem the scripture away that's basically the thing when you saw your problems according to scripture pitcher when it's been revealed to you something you can respiratory own destruction but if it's been revealed to you that this this what you should do or that this person is a is a deceiving himselves when he says he's he has not seen. You know so what happens when you solve things are going to scripture is that you know like a ten time like jackpot. Get a jackpot because you're accessing things that are beyond human menendez standing. When you don't rest you also rescue own destruction so it's not like every time or it's not like when i before before i got saved. I i rescued into my own destruction but what is revealed to me too since then and then what's been revealed is that you know we should try to get along with people and not get along with the lure something we should get along with people you know and of course we should try to break the law but the you know that's just in to make sure we don't get problems. You know the top a flight to be imprisoned who's on but it's more important that we try to get along with people and that's alami in the sermon on the mount their that's what i realized that he that i read the bible the bible every day in this this morning. It says he that believed me. He's through set freeing is truly set free. You gotta realize what if i believed lever although jesus christ i'm gonna do the simple thing. Side removed a video which i had complained against by this woman shawn sean trae from you too because you know i'm not here to i- strife is not what i'm about. It doesn't matter to me. You know i'm not here to. I rather just be at peace. You know now with everyone so bibles revealed to me now i did. I did add without something. I said there. That was wrong where i'd claimed she was a former administrator over the kings. You ministers dot org four. I added donald and then i re upload to bitch shoot and that's the latest video one of the video of richard when you are listening to this. It's not the latest just anymore. I think at this point it's the latest and it's called gospel tribal wars part for you know and i don't there's not really much in there that is but she would or whatever so like to have it done. Youtube then on youtube is bought by google which means that if you put a video on youtube turns up on google and i'm picking just put something in the google they will find it but bitch shoot. 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Al Davis vs. the NFL

Jalen and Jacoby

37:24 min | 3 months ago

Al Davis vs. the NFL

"Jalen and jacoby welcome to jones kobe. The after show is presented by jailing. We just watch. Al davis i the. Nfl your quick response. The amazing film reminded me of my childhood. A lot seen how football was played a lot. Different a lot. more physical and how. The antics of the raiders were of legend being a detroit. Lions fan an die hard. I really admire how the raiders went about their business of toughness and their level of bravado and also seemingly to always be the thorn in the side of the nfl raves embodied. That like no other joining us right now. Jalen the director of the film. Yes in rogers for have made great to be here for the first of all. Congratulations how does it feel to watch it. Just to have to ha- it's like birthing a baby to have it be out there in the world. Trending care. I'll tell you what it's hard as a filmmaker to not look at the little things you wish you could go back and fix it as a perfectionist. But when you see the response that we see in the positive response especially from raiders fans It's really great. Because i think the raiders fans thought that this was going to be hit job making. Sure the raiders. Look bad again. And i don't think that was the case so think they're pretty happy. Thank you for joining us. Can't and i don't mean to be This guy but i have to ask a really important question okay. I'll know world. Did you get al davis. And pete roseville in this shoe at the stadium in vegas when they both passed away years ago. Now that was the hardest of the film obviously In the first decision we made. We wanted to tell the story from their point of view. Because when you have those two characters who cares what secondary characters have to say about the relationship. I didn't want sports writers. Or i mean no offense or it's talk people No offense to you guys. Just say i didn't want. I didn't want outsiders views other relationship. So the producers and i kept talking about a wish we could just see al pete talk will. Why can't we end in the past. We may have hired actors. We may have just hired actors. Kinda looked like him put wigs on him and said you play al and you play pete and we're going to have walked around the stadium but today technology is around this possible at least to make them look even more like alan pete and we decided you know. This hasn't been done at sports documentaries. Let's let's go for it especially in the world of cove point You know let's let's try something different While we're all sitting around in our houses unable to to get out so we came up with this idea a and went to the stadium and shot body doubles Who have the same weight and height as allen peak that we put prosthetics on them of the top of the heads and necks so that was part. Two and part. Three the digital masks put out and pete's face on them. Then part for we wrote the dialogue of paul cammarata and ryan kelly my producers of so that the words were accurate to what alan peach said at the time and then part five we hired impressionists sounded like alan p to voice the words. So what you're looking at. When you say how did you bring allah p well. It took five different combinations to bring together for that to happen. It really wasn't just as easy as a you. You're going to be al or let's do this computer program it was. It was a huge combination of factors. It really worked. And i have a confession to make a actually google to make sure that i remembered that these gentlemen were both sort of not with us anymore because watching this film. It looks so absolutely real. You did a great job with the al davis impressionist. Because he's got a very sort of unique not just accent but intonation of win speaking and that one was absolutely spot on. But i want to ask you as a filmmaker like. That's a big swing to take. You said it was one of the first decisions you make in the middle of it when you're in the weeds were you ever like man. This might not work I was pretty sure it was definitely not going to work and that it was going to be an absolute failure. I mean i. It was close to one hundred percent. Yeah this is going to end badly. you know there's a there's a little bit of that in every film but this one there is some scary moments. It was the last thing we had to do. Because we had to have the film all edited and written and figured out with the holes of where these guys would appear and then we went to vegas in late november to film this and we needed to deliver the film a month later and so if it didn't work i have no idea what we were gonna do So everyone was quite nervous. And i we. We hit some major roadblocks that we overcame which was a credit to the people working on the show. Nfl there was a lot of sleepless nights. Here at the rogers household. I can say that and as an amazing Organization as the raiders. Are they were able to garner fans from near far not only based on their logo which is awesome in the best. But just the rebel. That al davis always was in his trademark. Just win baby is something that everyone can relate to. Can you tell me. More about a young davis trying to fill scouting reports to pro football coaches. He was a guy who i think's always wanted to prove himself. He grew up in a house With a brother who he was always in competition with so. I think that had a lot to do with the brotherly competition. He always had to seek approval from his father. I think that had a lot to do with it. And he found it through sports yet. He wasn't a incredible athlete so he developed this mind for sports and more than the mind the willpower that he would do anything to win that he would take as much time as it as it was needed. go to any length and as he says he. He gave up a lot in his life. I mean his entire life became about building. The raiders He became a coach. A scalp commissioner all this before becoming the owner. I mean when he became an owner he wasn't just a guy who had some money in fact he he didn't come from the money that is required to buy a team. He came from the coaching. And it's sort of. It's like you know. Larry bird coming from the playing in and going to the coaching. And you know the players when they walked into the to the building were like. Oh that's out miss. And it wasn't because he was the owner it was because he was already known as an incredible coach. You already had the reputation. Regardless of. What the raiders did from then off on. He had the reputation as a coach down pat and then he went on to build the raiders which nineteen eighty-three when they win their third super bowl. They are by far the best team in the nfl. When it comes to winning percentage now the steelers had won four super bowl so They've been better but by. Nineteen eighty-three l. Has a pretty good argument. That over the first fifteen years of the nfl nfl after merging. That is team is the best team. And and that's because of that childhood ambition that he grew up with that drives a lot of us but some of us burns out and it never burnt him out. It kept him kept his flame alive. I i love the one thing about this film. It's sort of like we all know the just win baby and we see the face and we know that. The successes of the raiders. But the things. I didn't know about al davis. Is he went to syracuse and just like stock to the football team. He was on the team he would just like be around the team and then he would fill out scattered reports and go to these. Nfl for lack of a better term sort of conferences and try to sell the scouting reports. Like there's a lot of real elbow grease and hustling grind. That went into his story. That sort of manifests itself when he became a prominent figure with the raiders. But one thing you touched on the. I didn't realize was part of his. History was the afl nfl merger and a kicker for the bills named a gogolek. Somehow doesn't get enough. Credit goes does not get credit for changing modern american football. But can you take us through in a little bit more detail in the film data sort of like his role and that merger kind of being kind of step one in this tete-a-tete between him and pete rozelle yes. so how. L davis was the commissioner of the american football league so he was the end of pete rozelle of the national football league and they of course didn't really see i i From the start but they had agreed that they wouldn't try to take each other's players from one leading and take them in steal them from another league And al felt like that Troops was broken when the nfl took p. goto lack from the From the bills and signed with the giants i believe and Al declared war as you would expect al davis to do And he decided that he was going to win at all costs and he went to war signing every high regarded College graduate that he could Every incredible prospect that he could every free-agent that he could Joe nemeth the the the big names that came into the afl that changed the game on that side of the ledger and it became much more than keeled. Where the afl is catching up to the nfl. In quality and contract rights and television rights and a merger was starting being talked about between the owners. Alvis was left out of those talks on purpose even though he was the commissioner while he was left out because his viewpoint was we will never merge. I will crush them in defeat them. I'll win let them be destroyed and will be the one that's left and maybe they'll come crawling to us. I'll set the terms of surrender instead of merging. He didn't want peace. He wanted victory so they went behind his back and merged without permission or knowledge of the commissioner of the league. And of course. Pete becomes the commissioner of the new league called the nfl rather than the afl and from that point Some hard feelings there. I think pretty naturally absolutely. So however al davis in his raiders. They want a success. Doria i how much it wear on davis to lose to those notable pittsburgh steelers and vikings teams early on yet you know they the losses were tough and they were exacerbated by the fact that there was some pretty crazy endings. And all you have to think about is the immaculate reception right. You know. that's the that's the famous one certainly some others. But when you think of the immaculate reception which is you know perhaps the greatest ending Certainly the most controversial ending. Nfl history history may be in sports. History it's insane and the steelers Won the game. And i don't know that to this day. Many of the raiders would accept. that are rolling holding. We have to discuss this. We have to discuss medical. You work at the nfl films. I've always relived this as a great play by franco harrison. The steelers. i've never seen this side of it. I've never seen the. It was a double tap pass. And there's an illegal block which was insignificant when you see the replay and then his phone call so again a. I didn't wash this game live. So i've always relived it as a celebration. This amazing play but watching this film. I was like. Oh there's another side to this coin. That is saying that the whole shouldn't happen. There was illegal and it was complete. Bs and that the raiders were robbed. So just imagine that. Al davis will he has many lawyers imagine you are one of his many lawyers and you have to make the case that the immaculate reception was actually illegal. What is your case. Oh you you can start by. Did the ball touch the ground. And which would nullify the pass You can start with at the at the time. It was rolled incomplete so role differently on the field. And then it was ruled a touchdown after discussion In the dugout will get on the phone and there was no replay at the time The clipping there was penalties on the play. That weren't called which you know. Penalties are missed on that sure. That argument holds up. And there's a really good argument that the ball was hit by The wrong team in the famous bounce back to franco harris which would make it a double touch illegal double touch And so we've done entire films actually on immaculate reception really the best place to to watch now peyton manning did a whole episode of fate places on espn plus about it. I mean it's one of those plays. I think a hundred years from now we will be making films about. Was it a touchdown. Or was it not a touchdown It is an insane play and had it been once. I think al davis would have said. That's that's a bunch of bull. But he saw that type of thing even if in his mind happened over and over and he felt like this is no longer coincidence. I think the league is doing this to me. And the raiders. Because we're the raiders and I think he felt that all the way to the end. All you have to do is look at the tuck rule and how al davis felt about the tuck rule against the patriots. Yes it's exactly. It's exactly how he felt about the immaculate reception. It which is no one had heard of this rule until you need it to screw the raiders. Right and somebody loves the nfl. Like those teams they have the the logo with chronic patch on i ten distort hindrinks you got. Johnette net known the sideline kenny states. Kenny the snake stabler And we just talked about of macular recession. But this movie actually wasn't much about what ball strategy or a roster building it was about these personalities. Why did you make that decision. Because the football aspect of it wasn't really one pete. Rozelle fought on. That was one of the battlefields. The pete rozelle phone on although davis would say he influenced the games That were important against him. Their battles were philosophical in nature about the direction of the national football league. This was this was a philosophical argument. About how the national football league should be run as a business not as a sport and you had one person who felt like it should be collaborative in pete. Rozelle that we should do at all times. What's best for the collective. And if he walked in the hallway with you he would put his arm around you and make sure that everyone finished at the same time at the end of the hallway. Al davis was type of guy. He walked into the hallway. The same time as you. He would make sure he would get to the door before you because he saw everything is Competition and he saw the league as a winner-take-all battle royale and he said i want what's best for the raiders. And if everyone else wants what's best for their teams. Let them try to get what's best for them. And i wanna get. What's best for the raiders. And it's almost like a a governmental federal versus state argument. You know should should the rights the with the overall federal level or the individual states at wanted to have a new stadium because he thought it was best for the raiders because other teams were getting new stadiums in he felt. Hey the players are going to go to other teams because they're getting more revenue from these luxury suites. That i don't have so they're gonna be able to pay players more. I want to stay competitive. I wanna win super bowl. So i want a new stadium too. I wanna move it. Because oakland's not gonna give me a new stadium. And the collective said no. And he said well the heck with that and he moved any decided to announce a move anyway. And you have these incompatible looks that had nothing to do with the actual game but how the business was run of should these be individual businesses each of the teams or should they be seen as a collective business the national football league. And it's a it's an argument that goes on to this day of a you know how. How do we treat this collective of teams as one or as individuals And in this case al. Alan pete went to court over it for many many years. A few times they went to court the saddleback in was involved somehow is the cousin of the owner of the back in the offers. An anaheim and and Forgot the name of the suburb irwin. Irwindale irwindale was involved in ten million dollars and it was. It was so much fun to sort of relive that because we just remembered as football fans. They were in oakland than la and then oakland and now it's just seems like they're always on the move but when you see how much litigation and determination from al davis and went into it now one thing that it would be like on twitter today if that happened as easy it would. It's an owner a commissioner. These these this is like one of the greatest rivalries in sports. And it's not even between athletes really is which is why i've found this film so i go. You feel a a conspiracy theory happening against you when it seems like these unique place happened to your team like the immaculate reception or the talk rule and all of sudden they become new rules in the game like that. I understand why he built so some type of way about that. I would have been to no doubt about it. I think raiders fans feel that way too right now. that's very moment. they all feel that way. Actually get through the court case which we all know how that ended up. There was something interesting that happened in. Now that i've realized how you made the film it might have been a copy that you've written and then had someone read but there's a point where al davis sort of takes credit for the success of the national football league and he said he's a visionary the sweets and the tv rights and the popularity. There's a little bit of that. That sort of. I know you know the tournament about three long. I believe there's a german word involved that little bit of saying you know what i saw this all happening. It was because of me somewhat. How much do you think that he felt that. Way in life I think he knew he knew in his mind. He was right about what was going on. And i think he would say i don't need to rub it in because i told you all along. I was right he. He was oddly in my mind. Not one to rub salt into the wounds. And i say that because he could have really been a jerk After he won the the rulings much more than he was. I mean he. He gave little couple jabs on the courthouse steps But you know he. He beat the national football league in and he didn't make a a huge monster deal out of it that he could of and when he won two super bowls while in litigation against pete rozelle he accepted trophies in a fairly. Good manner Publicly i think inside. He felt a little Little angry old on hold on. Because this is the number one question that i have for you and you know i'm going to ask. I know what you know what i'm going to ask. In the film they detail the trophy presentation in litigation. Pete rozelle handing the trophy to al davis. Apparently according to the film there is a prank plan by the players. But al davis has like a kill switch sentence that he can enact at the time. Thank you very much commissioner. That ends the prank first of all. Is this. This is how it really went. Second of all. What was the brank so we had a. We had interviews written at the time inside sport magazine and other interviews that reported on this prank that there was a a locker room frank planned and no one wrote what it was and we couldn't find out either so i can't answer your second question what it was. Here's my guess. The rumor at the time was that they were going to throw roselle outta the locker room while it. Once he handed over the trophy they were gonna say all right. You're done thrown out of the locker room. I'm not sure that would have happened. I think physically moving anyone probably would have feels too far from me but saw the footage and kept in the footage that when they were chanting pete's name at the same time they were talking about getting the champagne ready and i think in my mind they were waiting for as soon as the trophy was handed over and gave the signal that they were going to spray the champagne and instead of celebrating with themselves they were gonna douse commissioner as a sign of disrespect. That's my personal. Guess i have no proof of it but just watching the scene in the locker room we know we have a lot of footage of it. That's what i feel might have been happening But none of the players will even admit that there was a there was a prank plan. These days no. I don't know what i know. We didn't have anything planned at the time. There were reports of it but now everyone seems to forget. Now's allah dion sanders. The pro football hall of famer. Who also the terrific baseball player. When his team won the pennant. He did that to a member of the media when they came locker room. So i understand that visual. But the patriots we see their modern-day dynasty and bill belichick and robert kraft but he wasn't always honored and the previous owner. Billy sullivan son. Got into a fight with the raiders. Were happened there So there was definitely some some fighting going going on amongst the players And i think what happened. Is that The fighting on one particular play came near the near the sideline and extorted to extend into the personnel. It was along the. The raiders are along the patriot sidelines. And i believe that. Photo of the famous photo of matt millen punching The the sullivan son. Billy sullivan son. Came after sullivan. Went after long and failed to really connect or Maybe hit hit some padding or a helmet but matt millen took care of business Pretty clearly in that shot and landed a punch at the At the owner son In a legendary fight. And i think that's i think that's really clear. Evidence of the raiders attitude. Which is they they weren't. They weren't the bad people that the sometimes cast as and you can tell that with matt millen and how long and people that have come out of that organization. They're actually really great people. Don't mess with them. don't start. don't start because dan Del they'll answer. They'll they'll come back the they're not going to allow you to push them around. That's not the raiders way They they started a lot in the seventies they certainly crossed the line. A lot And that was that was their motto but they never ever back down from any sort of aggression like that one speaking about their aggression and attitude. Another question i had to ask you about because i had no idea that this happened. There's a cornerback or safety. Was in the secondary joan atkinson basically clothesline lynn. Swann or and was was tried in court. So what was he. Charged with about this jalen. You've probably assaulted. Fourteen people over the course of your career like just seems like a little things that happened between the lines. Shouldn't be able to be litigated court so he wasn't tried. So here's what happened. Is george atkinson clothesline. Lynn swann end. What's more shocking. Things i've ever heard is lynn. Swann's interview after that. Admitting he was scared to go back out on the football field That's the sort of attitude. Frankly that the raiders wanted. That's what they wanted is receivers to be a little scared and off game when they came out on the field. That's the advantage. That's the raiders advantage. Absolutely you young little ball. Fans the pittsburgh steelers story franchise. I remember the mean. Joe greene pepsi commercial with the little boy. I remember how lynn. Swann was a beloved figure as an athlete. The raiders were considered. The bad boys law allows szeto. Hanes lester hayes with the stick on his hands. So that was their goal in george's go atkinson to put fear in receive verse. And so when you look at this documentary. Congratulations and how what ball is played now. How dramatically different. The game look very different. I mean the law even the talking so this lawsuit was the coach. Chuck noll saying. Oh we have a criminal element in the nfl. and george atkinson's part of it but probably would You know that would register on twitter today. But that became the lawsuit that there is slander against jackson that went to to court. But those sort of hits that are in this film You know it was important for us even to to make it clear through the the the lines of Commissioner roselle that these were illegal hits because they are brutal You know the hits. The akerson and tatum laid out in the seventies would be the most illegal hits of a season today. the the blindside hits the leading the head. There were things that would not be allowed today. It would be instant objections and players wouldn't wanna play that way They they wouldn't want to play that way because of the advanced In knowledge of brain injuries and the effects of the game so It was definitely a different different era in terms of that and One that. I think probably everyone is glad as glad is over in terms of health and safety for these players absolutely and sort of as as we bring this interview to a close. The film was brought to a close by a moment. An palm springs at one of the owners meetings when roselle sort of announced he was stepping down. And then i mean we saw what happened in the film but it just seemed to be just a just a nice perfect bow of a moment to sort of finish this on. Tell our audience watching right now. What i'm hinting at. When we saw this footage we knew the film had a climax and the footage is al davis in an interview describing his long term rival and opponent retiring from the nfl. And you would think it would be up. And then i won and he had to retire and walked away and i i kept going. It was instead one of the most heartfelt things i've ever heard anyone say about someone else in the in the sporting world but it was delivered with so much emotion from a man that you wouldn't expect it coming from about a person who was the last person you would think she would ever say it about describing their embrace physically and hug after the announcement and you realize then that these men were opponents but maybe not enemies and i think i think that's a it's it's what i've been thinking about since the end of the of making this film especially without Is it a lot of people. Think al davis because he was a rebel because he was a contrarian because he fought against authority that means he's a bad guy and he's the villain just because you're rebel in you fight against authority. That doesn't mean you have to be the bad guy. You can still have the the respect for authority and disagree with it. You can peacefully protest you can you can you know. Go against What you need to go against it. In a way that still shows you're not becoming the villain and al davis did his whole life and it reminded me that were very easy to look at Opponents as villains that someone must be the bad person here well. It's clearly al davis. He's you know. He's the raiders the villain but then when it comes time you realize no he actually. He says out loud that there's love between him and pete rozelle house he the villain and you realize like a lot of things in life. It's more complicated than hero and villain. It's more complicated than black and white is more complicated than right and wrong and that this relationship as complicated as it was forced the nfl forward and they paid a price in going through this war. that push the nfl to the heights that it has today and that negative that they went through ended up being a net positive for the rest of us mazing mazing way to end the film and Thank you so much for your time against ken. Rogers the director of the great film. Al davis verse the nfl. I wanna thank you all for watching the jalen and jacoby presented by holiday after every thirty for thirty film. Find us discussing the film with great directors like ken. Rogers thank you so much for your time. I can repeat thank you guys.

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Episode 33: Build Week! Dallara iR-01, Long Beach, and MUCH More!

The Down and Dirty Show

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Episode 33: Build Week! Dallara iR-01, Long Beach, and MUCH More!

"This week on the i racing downshift. It's build week. We broke a lot of eggs to make the we talk all the new content headlined by the delara. I are one and how many die kasse be ten cars. Do you have in your collection and throw in a little discussion about greg. Striving for good measure i. I wouldn't say race. Sage got laughed by sage all this and more strap in welcome the raising downshift. I'm your host greg west. I'm back with the boys. Kevin bobby and chris leoni. We got up big show for day. We got a big bill coming up this week. Wednesday kicking off a bunch of new content to talk about and when i say a bunch of new content a bunch of new content. We also have the. I racing rallycross series. We're gonna talk about the championship and of course week. Thirteen where we talk about all the silly things that are going on. I racing starting on monday nights. Which probably is the day before this drops but kept is gonna look at me funny in you guys. Is it really build week. Oh no we supposed to do what he told me. Interesting working here because your life is broken down into three month cycles and the year goes by really really. Oh my god. It's build week is a thing that often is said in the office. Here we are again. Oh yes what's a race yesterday by chance. Wow that was that was a heck of an f one racer. I mean i've been one fan for. I don't know how long and that was one of the most entertaining. F one races. I've ever seen and you watch live We didn't even have to hide the spoilers from a. You're actually texting tyler. I during it. Yeah well it was nice. It was on at noon. Sleep in one six in the morning or whatever bad i missed my morning f one though i 'cause i missed a little football no i actually do prefer it earlier because then i can kind of get on with my day and stuff but it was it was. It was a heck of a race. Yeah wasn't your typical k. Three laps in this pretty much over a big george russell fan. Mainly because i have to be is leslie. Thinks he's attractive. Maybe i should hate him anyway. I was superstock to see the opportunity. Not once not twice but three times to try to take the lead. That was like groundhog day for you. Run the race jokes aside. I think that actually worked out as good as it possibly could have. Because they got to see him in several different situations. And how you'd rack react. And how test is metal off the start. Max tried to stick it in their three wide and he said no. It's all right. I'm gonna i'm gonna pass boats ass anyway and take the lead you know. We had issues in the pits. He how he dealt with the with the flat how he dealt with somebody in equal equipment. I'll just pass them on the outside. I'm gonna take the position in his job. I mean we certainly proved himself you know. Obviously they have an amazing car right. There's no doubt about that. Weren't gonna argue that but it's it's more than just a car you gotta you gotta have the skills and he clearly proved it like i said in multiple situations. You're right if he had just run away with it and lapped everybody you'd say some some would say Just the car. And and you know heck even greg west could do that well. Maybe they wouldn't say stupid but you can't say that the guy has skill obviously you put him in a car that that that is that good who knows you know and i feel bad for him but i also feel pretty excited for him because i think he's got he's got a good looking future in f one you know he's gotta take that You know as the positive from the weekend and and and move forward. Speaking of people. I feel bad for. I'm excited for sergio perez. We bury the lead. I feel bad for him. Because everybody's talking about george somebody else. He won the race. You're almost ten years of trying and losing. Yeah so yeah. He wins his first. Gp and then maybe out of a job next week although it sounds like maybe not for next. Maybe not now. Yeah that red bull ride looking real. Good heck of an interview right there. What have you done enough one while. I just won the last race. That's what i did. So yeah. that may have changed the entire landscape in that series. Do you ever resume smack. Guess this sound trophy. I was only in mostly a mercedes so that is the first impressive. That was a fun weekend for sure for racing. Even though there wasn't a whole lot of racing there was some crazy rations. So and then obviously what else happened. In the weekend i know was busy. You guys were working on stuff for the building and other bits of erasing so this weekend some guy wanna race in florida. Some guy wanted to go. Yeah some some guy. One guy relate monterey. So i raised the hood. Some guy named time of jesse late model race. That's unbelievable. He's a winning machine. But i think that's his first snowball derby right so this is first snowball. That's exciting been there. I used to live in pensacola. Three of those and that was always a good time. Always good time. Well speaking of good times it is build week exciting time anti racing obviously in. Oh my goodness we have a lot of stuff to get through so no guest this week. We have content is our guest and we're gonna kick it off with something that we're really proud to announce this week with a documentary. The new delara. I are one. This is the vision of you. Know i racing and really steve myers in conjunction with delara. This is a true concept car. There's nothing there's a lot of going back and forth on whether it's real whether it's not from my understanding they could build the molds and pop this thing out right. Kevin delara approach this as if they were approached by sanctioning body. Which is what they do right. They built indy. Cars built other cars for for series and They work with the series but basically they're given a set of rules and say the car needs to fit into these parameters designs one and then they do and they typically do a darn good job right. And that's what we did. You know stephen and the team worked with them to come up with a set of parameters. This is what we want to be like. I mean i watch the video. I don't have to recap the entire video. But that's that's a synopsis and alarmed at the same process. They do to build a car. That's four indy-car or somebody else so while it's not racing a real world series right now it certainly could you know so they could build them. Put them off the production line. Put motor in and off. We go So i've run a few laps on in it Already i know greg in some of the testers have done even more laps But it's super fun. It is a really neat car so excited to get the members to to drive it on wednesday. I'm super proud to be even a small part of the development of this car because it was really cool. And we got the original spec back when stephen in delara had sat down and said okay. This is kind of the box that we're wanting to work within. Then we had built the car and then a bunch of scott together and we had the testing. Is the concept good. This is what we wanted you know. Is it fun does it race. Well can you pass in in. That was a blast. We took everybody down to two interlagos and gave a half hour to get warmed up. Next thing i know i killed. Steve myers sorry about that. But now we've proved the concept that the does make for good racing. It is a woman's car for sure you have to you. Don't have anything that lean on as far as a lot of driver aids or anything like that. No yar s and it's. It's a blast. Chris and can. I just say the three liter v ten. We picked probably my favorite spec engine of all time for that thing. Everybody built those engines. They sound beautiful they. It's that era of motor sport group. That for me growing up was like the defining era of motorsport. So can't think of a better choice for the engine. I love that. And how many die casts those be ten cars. Do you have in your collection over one hundred one hundred. That's that's actually a good question. That might be right about where i'm at. I don't i'll pick a now. I'll get back. Not follow up on the on this from from what i understand ozzie. Ozzie greg hill sound engineer and it was super excited when this spec was announced to develop develop the sound for them the motor. I know that greg hill and brian simpson worked tirelessly. I've seen check ins from those guys in the wee hours of the morning to get this car ready in it is. It's just it's a treat. It's going to make for some interesting racing or excited the debut during week thirteen and then starting the following week in week one or week one of the twenty twenty one season. We put it at a lot of debate on where this car should go Especially since it's going to have as we've announced has a world championship series. That's going details are gonna come out later in twenty twenty one all of the specifics but like the road series with the porsche which starts off in at the c. Level we are mirroring that with the i. r. o. One and you can. You can find that with your c. license. Starting in week one of the season it's going to be heavily populated. I can't wait. I cannot wait. And i can't wait to see how people paint this thing too because the first time. I saw the pain template just i was running laps around the dining room table just celebrating. Because it's such. It's such a straightforward. Pay wish. we had video of the. It's cardio i know right. We also have another great track to go along with the delare. And really the delara. I are eighteen. And any of our gt threes. Gte's or the miata or the skippy or pretty much. Anything to anything that runs there. Has you know someone will do. Someone will do. We'll do it new through and go challenge. Oh gosh probably do one of those again as as you guys know. Long beach has been the biggest Topic in the form. Since i've started i racing. Probably since kevin's started that i racing. Maybe a four. I racing long beach scan. Trip was the first business trip. I took what. I racing a long time ago. So glad. I'm glad to see we were finally able to do it. This is the right time to do it. You know with with Everything going on not being able to travel and collect data you know. Same thing on cars and tracks We were able to put a bunch of resources to get the guys to dig into it and it looks beautiful. I mean alex. Put together a couple of teasers. So you can see. There's some screen shots. I know greg hill was posting some late last night on twitter. So i'm sure he was fine tuning something and then had to had to share that. So he's a good guy to follow on twitter. If you're looking for a sneak image as greg hill. i actually should look up his twitter handle but Check check for that But it looks spectacular. It's a challenging track. I mean right. I mean it's a canyon right so It it's a drew city gorse that scott concrete barriers along. So when you make a mistake you pay for it right. But that's part of the charm. I guess right term challenge. Something could be very charming when somebody next mistake going into the hairpin and they were all that happens in the real world right. I've seen cards stacked up there. 'cause somebody just bumps somebody it turns out. It happens. Such part of city racing right. Yeah it's it's been definitely an adventure to to see the track fully. Come to wife and then we had to go through and make sure all the cars can make the corner without dumping the clutch. Luckily they all do so. That's good news it is. It is definitely a challenge. But what i really like about it is. There are some legitimate passing zones. Even though it's it's close close quarters. The straits open up and they give an opportunity Shooting some videos for in. I pride myself on being a bad driver that can block for really well and me and chris chandler. There were just going at it and he found a way around. I thought i had every apex covered. I was surprised that christian got about around you. It's less than one lap. A place where you don't think anybody can pass. I mean he had me by turn five. That was we had pretty good battle going. Yeah really excited. It's gonna make for some great racing you can see. It's a during week. Thirteen with kevin's new favorite car. The skip barber. That's right. i've been driving that a lot lately or these practicing at a lot lately. A few races in Having a lot of fun. That i can't wait to drive it at long beach even when alexander's and i show up in your practice because we're creeping on you and then i was a little bit concerned that i was being stalked But hey you know we're worse. Things have happened. So hey i from what i understand from falling. Alex found a couple of seconds right. Yeah which is kind of embarrassing that there were a couple of seconds to be had. Freaky fast is pretty fast. Alexander's is the one that programs. All of our ai. Cars to go really really fast and He can walk the walk when it comes to road course raising for sure another car. That's going to run really well at lamborghini we've been we've been almost saying oh week was just say now the labor guinea her con. Gt three evil. They're it's been said it's there. It's we've been teasing it. It's so close to getting final approval. That's that's been the delay everybody's wondering why we're why we're putting pictures out but not really saying what it is. It will be out as soon as it's finally approved You know and we go through this process with everybody so when we build a car attract the rights holders that they wanna make sure. It's it's exactly perfect. We want to make sure it's perfect A little bit of back and forth to tweak a couple of things and then it'll be out so we're really hoping it'll be there wednesday but i can't guarantee that because they're you know it's gotta get approved that's part of the licensing deal but it's a super cool car. It sounds great. Alex put a video out today. That i don't think it shows what cars drive around long. Beach sounds really good. Sounds really couldn't really tell you. Cardis is but maybe you want listen to that one. It's pretty cool video so that that's exciting. That's kind of the first. Gt three that we've built in. I think three years right. So we kinda focused on gte and built up our stable gte's and those have been really popular and it's nice to get back to having some gt threes. I i know. Greg can speak to how we've kind of updated all of the gt threes. We've had to do you know full b. o. P. things like that But you guys spent a lotta of time doing testing on those right. So the gt three class All of the cars in our almost ground up rebuilds. We've got some really good data from working with our partners and we've learned a lot. We have a fulltime aerodynamics engineer on staff. Now that's you know confirming a lot of our cad. Modelling we really can under- understanding more about how the arrow balance that these cars work and what we get out of. That is the most fun car to drive in the service in my opinion. I'm not just saying that because it's the new thing. I've been hot lapping this thing since before. It had like before. It even had a dash and it's an absolute blast to rip around in doesn't matter whether you're long beach which it's a ton of fun especially since mid engine you could really rotate it in the corners but you can take it to a place like spa to a place like silverstone you can take it to a place like lime rock. It doesn't matter it's like these. The gt threes are such a utility car in our service and the lamborghinis one of the You know front runner. I shouldn't say front runners because they're they're really well but it's one of the you know the best looking cars th that we've we've built. I had lamborghinis on my wall. Growing up some superstock to be able to raise one in the game absolutely know. Oh sorry yeah. No and i mean i mean. They're such an amazing car in the real world. They cleaned up in him so this year. You know they. I think they won their first british. Gt titled this year as well. You know i. It's just. It's such a strong. Gt three contender regardless of where it goes and it's gonna fit in here really well but another good car that can run a long beach the bmw m. ford gt three. Which was the best kept secret in. I racing until kevin. What about an hour before the release until an hour before we plan to make the announcement actually before we had planned for bmw to make the announcement so anyway we we did a pretty good job for. I don't know five months one hour short. It happens but super excited about that car. I know i say that a lot about new cars but this is a really fun project to be involved in working with bmw. Who obviously is a great partner of ours and partner right so that we do things with them. It's not just a license agreement Develop that car as they were developing the real world counterpart a. It's a twenty two spec car So they're going to continue to develop it over the next few months and finalize it hopefully by june and that's when it will You know that's why we're kind of doing a pre release of it early release of it if you will so that it'll be it's a full car. So it's a greg saying he wants to say something. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the pre-release because there's some misconceptions conceptions on this. This car exists in the real world. What we're talking about right now as you know the car people have talked. It's not been amalgamated yet. But then they're still. They might make some adjustments to the the the brake calipers materials that are used but as far as the data on the car. Kevin what we have is what is driving man. That's exactly what they've built so far And and that was the goal they just will. They want to run it. They're going to run it in some test races and put it on the track This spring and they kind of reserve the right to update it to make sure that they get everything they want out of it. And we're gonna do those updates Probably for the june bill. That's the plan right now. So if you buy the car now it's full. Gt three spec and And when i say now it's gonna come out in a couple of weeks. It's not in this bill so it's a couple of weeks behind we're just trying to finish it up but it'll run with. Gt three cars And then if you own it If you've purchased it come june when we do the update will just do the update and and kinda the early release pre released. One will go away and you'll get the new one so we're only talking. You know five to ten percent changes. It's it's gonna look you know basically the same it's going to you know they might tweak something on the dash or something small but it's it's basically done but but there might be some slight changes so yes you'll probably have to read your your setups. Come june i guess that's the downside but it's really cool to on the ground floor with bmw. You know it's not often. We're able to develop a car alongside the manufacturer. Usually they build it. They start racing. It a license comes along and then we kind of work on it. This was all done together. Made the process a little bit longer right because we have a long list of data that we asked for and we can ask for that right now if we wanted. If we signed a car today we send him the list of everything we need. But if that data doesn't exist yet there's a delay so that process was interesting but but a neat process to be a part of an an thankful that. Bmw trusted us. You know you can actually raise his car. I racing before he can in the real world so and a neat project and i think that It really shows that we're were getting back into the gt three space and once again these cars in the gt three class. These are basically ground up rebuild. All the cars not just new content and really excited to see with once again with what we have learned with air dynamics and bringing on drew. Who's our aerodynamics engineer. And and how that is going to affect arab ounce these cars It's going to be a really nice quality of life improvement for For the entire class. Chris and i still think that it's fun to see that. The real world in for gt three sheriff shares a very important piece of hardware with something. That sim racers are using. Well hopefully at every corner of the traffic though. If you've met me. I guess maybe not maybe not the case but having having that family tech steering wheel that is actually a part of both the real car and something you can unplug from the real car and plug into your computer that's cool. I can't think of any time that's ever happened. I mean i could be wrong but yeah no you're right. That's the first time in it. So this was revealed at bmw Sim live in munich on saturday. And there's a really you can go watch the videos on youtube if you follow a bmw motor. Sports and and bmw drives car on stage. Driver gets out takes the wheel with them. You know saunters across the stage sits down at a nice fantastic rig plugs into a fantastic Direct drive wheel and start driving the car on racing with the exact same wheel and so it's for fan attack. It's the first time that they've built an actual real world racing wheel. It's not a replica. That's normally what they do and they make awesome replica. So that's not a knock on them. I've got a couple of them. I've got a formula one room. I've got a porsche ram and they look amazing but If if you listen to some of the interviews With fantastic folks at the bmw event. They talked about the challenges. They ran into right so in a real world car. You have to worry about heat you have to worry about dirt moisture all those sorts of things. They never had to worry about that. So they had to learn a few new techniques Probably had to go through a safety tests. I would imagine right normally. It doesn't matter what what you're seeing wheels made out of but if you're gonna put it in a faa approved car that's gonna matter So it's pretty neat that You can actually do that. So so when i when i buy my real world for. I don't need to get the wheel. 'cause i just get it for fantastic right so yeah yeah. Let me know how that goes for you percent so i guess the million dollar question on a lot of our members mind you know. Where does this new content go. where does it live. there are numerous polls up in the forums. People talking about where they think they're going to go and what we're going to do with them. Well it's pretty simple right now we have to. Gt threes in our series and we have to gt threes. Coming into the service. So guess what we're just gonna flip them out so the mercedes will still live in. The vrs gt three series. You can still drive that. They're in both the sprint and the endurance series the same with the audi But for the m-series. We're going to have the most up-to-date cars that are in that in that series and that will include the bmw in gt three in the lamborghini her con. Gt three yvo. So the name right i. You don't have done before the recording i. I can't do the battle. I told you the dog freaks out. So i have to. I haven't bought a new one. I just need to start putting it in post guys the not mad. I'm just very disappointed. I get that a lot moving on. Let's talk about something else that the the community has absolutely clamored for. Since i started here. The big block modified scan stewart freeze. Chris you know all about it because it's dirk tells about it. I love when you guys make that assumption now. The big block modified incredibly. It doesn't matter whether you're driving it or whether you're watching it. It's the people who love that car. It's just a different breed. It's it's that same level of passion that you know a european football soccer. Whatever you wanna call it. Fan might have for their club. You know. it's it's just such a such a beloved piece of machinery. I mean it's a blast to drive what we say before we started recording. Steve re says it's the best dirt car we've ever built. Yes steve steve researchers You know build our dirt content along with the other vehicle engineers but he ran point on this and him in the testers hands down. This is the best best car we've ever put out. I don't know much about dirt as far as driving it other than how to wash out going into the corner. But this thing is an absolute blast and it's got some mass with it definitely going into the corner so getting it to ride along the cushion without just spinning it out is is not the easiest thing in the world but it is definitely a bit easier in my opinion to drive than the super lame on so this leads me to. What's what's our staff race going to be. We have too many to choose from. Ira wanted long. Beach is everybody wants better though. I was thinking big block modified a long beach but no no mix mixed class. That'll be that'll ridiculousness will be us on friday. I know we have a real ridiculousness and we'll get to that later but it'll just be you guys go to long beach and you put every single piece of new content in the build on we see what and what happens Because if i do it. I'll do the three fifty eight version of the modified. God knows i'm not gonna have time to do it. Let's be real guys. How many how many have i made. I made crandon because you guys would have never let me hear the end of it but usually i'm just working through. I just a dedication thing. Chris i know everybody else can make friday. The staff race is what we call mandatory fund. Chris so you need to step up your game. I'm gonna talk to find ourselves but don't forget we do have the three fifty eight as well. So if you're struggling to learn the big block modified step down to the three fifty eight. There's a little less power that's more my show. You can get the wall just a little slower you can. You can learn the car you can learn the physics you can. And they are sold as a package Just like a lot of the other dirt oval content. That we've gotten the service so you know if you're if you're struggling with that big block than step down to the small block get used to it and you'll get faster and you will start winning races that way so chris. If you're gonna take three fifty eight where would you recommend that you try it. Oh gee i don't know. Maybe maybe this. Little track in wisconsin called Cedar lake oh oh that say oh i was gonna troll. You say because that's kinda but we've already dropped we'd sport which which is awesome it as a matter of fact it is as of this recording one of the next races. That's going to show up in the world of outlaws sprint car world championship but cedar lake the newest track. That's going to become into the service. Three eighths of a mile out in wisconsin very popular track. It's it's got a heck of a history to be really fun to see how people adjust to that track. I know the dirt oval community is always clamoring for more tracks more tracks more tracks. And if you're not somebody who's watched that kinda racing you you might look at it and say well. They're they're all ovals but it's the same argument people make with asker right now. They're not there. they're all very different from one. Another you know. The length and cedar lake the banking. it's it's not a carbon copy of some other dirt oval. That's already on the senate something that's completely different. You know you're not gonna be able to just step into it and if you if you've done that racing and just immediately be like oh i'm fine. You know i mean you see it in our world championships. The guys who kick but if the quarter mile bowl rings and the guys who excel on some of the longer tracks aren't always the same guys and here free. It's of a mile. You've kind of got that happy medium between them so it's gonna be really interesting to see how this track races. It's really interesting to watch the pace truck pull off since it is still in front of the field on the green flag flies. 'cause pit entrance is off of turn one and it's the the road on the outside of the of the track so when you see that truck just accelerate in you know go ham off. Turn one he just going home. It's on barney's brothers in there just having a good old time barney's brothers named i don't know i just made that up but hopefully it sticks. Speaking of good times it can get a little bit silly pretty proud of this one. We also have something special just for week thirteen. You won't see in any official series but are irwindale eight track has gotten a little bit of love and you can fully launch yourself on it with the irwindale figuring out. What the jump. You're gonna see during week. Thirteen where he's rallycross cars there. That's not saying you're always going to clear the cars that you're going over but it's you know if it was the figure it you just be driving through them anyway. I think this is a phenomenal. Because when people ask me about the figure eight races they said what would you do to make them better. I'd say i would. I would make them more chaotic. That was my number one choice. And i think we've done that. Chris put cars in the air. It's awesome hold on one second imam. Hey yes kevin said. I had a good idea. Now this is this is a great moment. okay. I love you too bye. Sorry i just had to. I had to note. I had a note that moment in my life. Put it in your calendar. Really big deal for me personally and professionally. It should be a lot of fun. Excuse me seeing seeing the cars go out there and launch. We've done a lot of testing on it. There's actually a fair amount of math that went into getting the jump that would launch you high enough where you might clear cars to be clear. Greg did not do the math. We had other people do that now. Everything makes sense in the world compliment. And then i take it away but getting getting the cars to launch to clear oncoming traffic but then getting on the ground soon enough to make the corner which is surprisingly hard given the geometry that track but it should be a lot of fun. It's going to be great for hosted. It's going to be great during things like week. Thirteen and it's just. It's silly amounts of fun so really looking forward to figuring during week thirteen now i mean you guys know i come from that world of rallycross cars going up lights. You do that no. I don't know if you guys know this about me. Although i will say forward to launching just about everything else we're going to we're definitely going to start having some long jump competitions on that track and see what we can send the furthest still be. The corner can't confirm. The ira one does work. They're not saying it lasts very long but it does work. They're interesting interest just right. I'm johnny knoxville. move on. we don't just have content for this bill. Actually we still have more concept. Because there's so much of it sometimes gets ordering chris's outline. Then he sends us that. I didn't read somewhere in the middle of the show. We also have two new rallycross configurations coming out. We've got one at brands hatch. We got wanted charlotte. Chris tell us about them because they're dirt so you have to know defacto differently partnered closely dad. Not all dead. There is a difficult. Well this is dirt road. So i actually talking from experience and god such such cool tracks in i mean first of all the charlotte track that we've designed were using a big part of the wroval. Which is like chris. Emotional talking about these si voice. It's it's about a thousand times cooler than the one that we had at. Cms in the real world years ago because it uses the it's got the it's got the launch in i believe from the tri oval it. It's a really fun to drive layout. And i'm really excited for it but i may even be more excited for brands. Hatch because that track is a marriage of the classic rallycross brands hatch. Lay out. it's got some elements of that but a lot of elements that we've designed so it's it's this old school new school blend of different elements. I i think it improves. On the classic brands. hatch rallycross track is and i know the people over in europe have been saying for years in the real world. They'd love brands hatch back in the calendar. And if that does ever happen i think they ought to do it with the layout that we build on. I'm serious it is. It is so cool. It's such a cool layout you know having that scenery that whole track. There's so much history there. And i think what we've done is we've we've been honest with that history. We've you know we've done something that respects that history but really have taken that track to i think the next level so i'm really excited to see people drive that and by the way we also confirmed this week with all the New tracks that we've had that we've announced her in production of the barcelona rallycross outcomes in march two. So all the i wrecks people have been very happy with me recently. So it's hard not to be in a good mood. We also have a big long superspeedway coming sometime. When it's approved kevin also about another one of the best kept secrets on. I racing particular speedway that was in a title that we may have made previously back in papyrus days working on bringing this. How long is it three three miles. It's a big speedway Just getting final approval to to get that out. Hopefully it'll be out this week. We'll see you go real fast on that. Go real fast on that real. I've seen cars going to fifty in the big draft going into turn one and yeah it's special greg. Did you put an indycar in that track and testing how the indycar is actually air limited. The cup cars go faster. No kidding yeah cup. Cars in a train are just ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I am excited and scared at the same time. Yeah definitely don't want to lose the draft natura. No no no no. But i should be a good time looking forward to getting out. There and carb cup will never be the same. We can just really wanted to be mean that is that you know i race. The season like pre daytona. Oh yeah coke. Speedway diana problem right. I would would be fun but moving on. We're gonna talk about week. Thirteen we have a ton of different series one two three four five six seven eight. I'm going to spare you. Twenty three different series in order to incorporate all of our new content and the stuff that we all the officials series that do stay live during the during week. Thirteen but we have looks like seven different series that are just dedicated to new content and features one of the ones that we haven't talked about yet that we need to do with one of our new features. That's been going around. The forms is been asked for four years in his safety rating in i rating per track type. So if you are a cup car nascar and they go to watkins glen. You're road i are and your road. Sr will be impacted not your your oval sr. That has been. That is a big change. It's going to really affect the the road to indy community. Usf two thousand two thousand and the indycar because they go back and forth between ovals and road courses should really help participation on that and during week thirteen. We have a little twist week. Thirteen ridiculousness is actually going to be used to smoke. Test this feature. We've done a lot of testing with it. But we're gonna use the pro to light and we're gonna go to all four different track types road oval dirt road in dirt oval. It's going to be a ton of fun but it is official so be mindful of that because we wanna make sure that everything is working as designed before we roll it out in week one kevin. I think it's just important to clarify. Hopefully i can articulate this correctly. Is that yes. It will impact the appropriate i rating and safety rating for the type of track. You're on but to get into that race. The license requirement doesn't change that set for the series so if it's a nascar oval series that goes to one road course like watkins glen or something. It's still going to require the you're older licensed to get into that race correct. Yep so if it's a class a nascar series that which is a class a. Oval even if it goes to a road course. You need the aid. Whatever license that you need to access the series gets you in. But you're i rating to as far as Splitting the field the ira. That's used a split will be based off the type of track. It is so if if it's a road course it's gonna use your road. I rating if it's an oval it's gonna use your oval i rating if it's a dirt oval which might come into play later this year. It's gonna use your dirt. Oval i rating so if you have a funky track coming up on the schedule and you can be in the top split you make sure in in in practice for those That that track type to ensure you have the best opportunity to score as many points as and just to further clarify it that week. Let's say we're we're talking about you know the nascar class-a that's going to lock ins glenn right it still requires the oval a licensed to to get into that race regardless of the week and then when it impacts your your safety rating in your eye rating on your on your roadside it. It doesn't matter what license level you have you. Could you could be a rookie in on the roadside or a class a. on the roadside. You don't need a road license to get in there right. That is correct now what it will not do though is it will not impact your npr. So if you are an oval guy and you never raise road courses outside of when we go to watkins wroval or when we go to daytona road course with the you know the extra chicane that came in last year you get iranian safety rating on the road license and those stops put it will not count toward a dancing your license as far as those two races. You need to advance your license so lot of a lot of little details that we've taken a ton of time to make sure that we got right We have full confidence that this is going to work well but it's definitely an opportunity during week. Thirteen we could not pass up to make sure it gets tested with a audience outside. You know the forty or fifty people that we used to to to test during the that are on staff or in our alpha program so excited. It's also going to be a lot of fun. We're going to linear long beach. We're going to wild. West langley linear again and then lime rock. The classic layout in the pro to light. Yeah you probably gonna probably gonna run outta gear on the front stretch and lime rock. It'll be okay. I promise sorry. Did i date myself with the howard. Dean reference her plow got it. I got it. I get it. Okay so yes i did. Thirteen ridiculousness a little change of pace on that. As far as some of the other fun series we have besides the regular pickup cubs. Alarm dash carb cup. We have the figure great using the rally the irwindale with the jump that we talked about earlier. We've got the tube frame twister. That's where we take cup cars and put them on road courses with this new feature with i. R s are by track type. The especially the road approach community had some. I would say some valid concerns regarding how it's going to impact things that we haven't announced yet which is how to you know. Have an opportunity to qualify for the coke series now that latter works and many people said. Hey we don't have an opportunity to race. The acre on road courses very often so for week thirteen we put the to frame twister in the car that going watkins glen cup sonoma's charlotte daytona road back to walking snowman charlotte. So you're gonna have plenty of opportunity to go work on your skills in an unofficial series. Yeah probably be a little bit crashy but you can go in there and practice and traffic in a race situation working on restarts and whatnot and should be a good opportunity for people to learn a little bit. So that'll be a lot of fun too as far as for new content. We've got the shining new shakedown. Taking the delara. Ira one to twenty five minute races. Going no bunch of different tracks all really big tracks. No we did not usa cuba one thousand. We got the ten top tussle which is going to break down all the gt threes. That have been once again. That class has really been rebuilt from the ground up with the new. The new aero modeling that we've been able to do to work on the arrow balance as well as the tires of a had a lot of love. We've spent a lot of time and we have three different engineers working on the for that class. You've got seven different cars to the data. Says they look really good. So we're looking forward to seeing how that shakes down thirteen week muddy mess. We're taking the big block modified to cedar lake because of course thirteenth week. Beach beach vacations. Where you're gonna find. Kevin next week skivvies at long beach. Fifteen minute races can't be. It's a ton of fun to Don't lose a right front. Going around the flowers and the fountain kevin. Those are unofficial dough. Right those are unofficial. Yep so that means. I won't be given out any. I let you win awards. Oh you give out plenty every other week normally. It's fine so yeah lots of fun during week. Thirteen a lot of fun coming out in this. Build the with this. This twenty twenty has been such an interesting year and it has you know it's been difficult for a lot of people and know i racing definitely has felt it. It's been You know working being stuck at home all the time but you know we're obviously very you know we're blessed to have the opportunity to work on good really cool things that hopefully put a smile on on people's faces and have a lot of things into the day that's why you raise is to have fun. That's why member viruses to have fun and we just put out a bunch of new toys to give the community something to do. And i'm just really excited. I'm proud of this team and everybody that has worked literally night and day to get this stuff ready. It's going to be a great bill. Say it any better. I got shorter but you know but come on guys. Did you watch me do all the thank yous at the end of the last. Irs broadcast. I think i went on for twenty minutes. Oh well why don't we talk about rx. We just handed out a championship. Chris champion the final champion of of twenty twenty right. Yeah we we actually handed out to championships. If you want to count the all star invitational. It will stick to the greg race with sage in. What in lionheart. right back. In the day i raised. I wouldn't say race was got lapped by sage. That's the appropriate shared real estate with stage. Just op for position exactly. I don't think i ever killed them in a race practice. Okay well yeah no. We wrapped up the i. Racing rallycross presented by yokohama. Season with the series finale at cinema to awesome races championships went down to the wire. And i do wanna shout out sage karen because he said that actually is. The first sim racing championship. He's one which surprised me quite frankly knowing how good he is in the sim. He connor martell especially scott. Speed had an amazing battle that went down to the wire and that championship. But then you get to the world championship and you had four drivers eligible coming into the race. John robertson johan hearth tommy home in mitchell diong. Tommy mitchell ended up falling out of the mathematical chase after qualifying because yohannan john went one two and the bad luck that seems to bite every single driver at one point during any world championship season it finally bid john robertson and it was an absolute heartbreaker had qualified. Second just ran into contact his heat and ended up missing the final because he was fifth in the elsie q. So for johann hearth who had won the past. Two races at cinema was on the pull. It was just finished sixth. They're better and he drove. He drove a champions race because he didn't he didn't screw that up. He didn't take the championship out of his own hands. He drove a conservative racy. Drove a patient race. He had a pretty actually aggressive fight with josh fox for third towards the end. But eventually let josh go. Josh really wanted that podium. Finish to finish off the year the right way. The city's ford guys yoni kind in tommy hallman ended up going to josh completed the podium and then johan him fourth wins. The championship by three points comes home. Ten thousand dollars richer and great season for him just overall because he's back in the Porsche tag heuer. Re supercup as well. Because he was top. Twenty points there so really always impressed to see the guys who can run at that level in multiple world championships. Mitchell's one of those guys. Bobby's alinsky is one of those guys. Both of them qualified back to iraq's next year by the way because they were both top ten important. So it's gonna be it. I'm really excited for twenty twenty one. We got a lot of work to do. It's gonna be a bit further down the road and obviously we have things like this bill to take care of before we can start thinking about what was a season for world championship But i'm really there's there was so much cool stuff that happened in. Irs we had all the teams come in this year. Yokohama dirt fish marwin sports all Supporting us and bigger and better things even coming. I think i think it's going to be a really exciting time for rallycross. I racing especially with all the new track. Layouts making it next year. But also shout out to chris leoni who handled the organization of almost almost single-handedly of that world championship and the all star series as well did a wonderful job making. Sure all the t's across is dotted liveries were taken care of. And also they put on one heck show if you guys haven't seen it go to our youtube channel and check out. Some of those races are absolutely a blast to watch. I want to bring back the giggling. Good time catchphrase. Because they these guys it rubbing his race and they take it to a whole 'nother level. I know chris during some of the racer views wasn't as happy as he is right now. The smile on his face with some of the context it really is a premier series on. Ira saying that sometimes gets overshadowed by our nascar. Coca-cola erasing series in the book porsche. Tag heuer eastbound supercup but there is nothing There's no racing letdown with with any of our dirt series there arguably as good if not better. We'll we'll racing. You'll see anywhere else in sports. So chris heck of a good job with that excited for next year what it has to come and Yeah the addition. The build of a couple extra rallycross tracks probably isn't going to hurt at. Thank you guys for putting faith in me to basically just let me do whatever the heck i wanted with that. We broke a lot of eggs to make the omelet that was that seniors. And i had a lot of phone calls with a lot of people in not all of them were always happy but everybody pulled in the same direction which is so hard to do in sport and i can't thank everybody enough. Who was willing to kind of support this idea and at least give it a year to see how it went and i think the results speak for themselves to steal your line absolutely drink. Hey i thought of something. We didn't talk about coming out in the bill somewhat stuff. Kevin looking at me indycar. Ira eighteen the blew up twitter earlier today. Bloop the forums. As well. Because i had a typo that turned out to be more of a freudian slip anything but the ira eighteen. Indycar is getting new damage. it's got alternate tire compounds. yet you can throw in the reds and it's it's absolutely great shooting the video or the for alex right now to put out the teaser. So by the time this comes out you'll probably have seen the video but really there wasn't enough in the build already and this isn't this has actually been. I think the aircrew dhec has been working on this since either march or april because this car because it is so fast it brings a whole new slew list of problems and getting it to work properly in the tires of work properly in working that in with new damage and the way these cars break apart and during accidents in the energy loss especially when they flip that energy those physics applies not just to the parts but the tires and getting that all to work together was almost a year. Long project for eric and it. It's really really good. So i'm really excited to see how it works once again. And we were just trying to go five widen it. One indy right before this. I think there are a long beach right now. Finishing up the road component of it because once again new damage that car has to two different arrow packages. You've got the speedway package. You've got the road course package and so it's twice the work to get the damage model to work on that car but really excited to see that. Come out had a little fun with the guys on twitter in the forms today but it really cool. I'm excited for that community. Because they've they've really been asking for that for a long time and it wasn't for lack of trying. It was a long process to make it work at the level. That is commiserate with what i racing does as far as quality products so excited for the community and looking forward to seeing those guys rip around of no doubt especially with all the indycar drivers that have jumped on the same over the past year. i will say greg bat twitter freudian slip because i know him at the are the only one that might have been the tease of the bill out of all the different teases. That have come out. You know out of all the different things that we've played with members with. I think you'd accidentally not accidentally dropping. Ira in there. I think that was the winner. Well when when tony qanon re tweeted and i realized i was up over one hundred followers in like three hours i was like well. This is a thing. Luckily luckily i don't have to hide this too much because we're going to announce it anyway today so works really well but wasn't on purpose anyway. Thanks for listening to this edition of the i. Racing downshift. Don't forget to rate review and subscribe kevin's given me rock on right now. Don't forget to rate review and subscribe on apple podcasts. Spotify anywhere else. Chris decided to put this thing for kevin. Bobby chris leoni. I'm greg west. And i will troll you on twitter we buy.

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Ep10: Jesse Iwuji: The difference between good and great

Masters Decoded

22:48 min | 19 hrs ago

Ep10: Jesse Iwuji: The difference between good and great

"Along the snow's welcome to season. Two of the masters decoded parkas. I am a niece. marget the chief decoder. I want to thank you for the overwhelming response to season. What your feedback and encouragement led me to bring you season. Two of the mazdas decoded this season. Bullcrap into out technology. Artificial intelligence and other socioeconomic factors have impacted my guest careers or passions next guest on. Today's parkas is jesse. Jesse currently serves the us navy as a surface warfare officer and he also professionally compete in nascar as a driver last year jesse started his own company in erasing capitalize on the growing interest in east. Votes jesse is multifaceted and walks with nbc's pulled as analysts covering nascar sports while so without further ado let me bring on. Jessie i seen welcome to masters decoded. Orcas t's really glad to have you thank you so much for having me under so your profile is pretty investing in looking forward to this conversation and you have a dual road today plane or actually a triple role or you know multiple roles and multiple facets. You do professional racing as well as you are serving in the In the name. So there are two critical roles which you have and you are also co founder of anita's association which i would like to double but let's talk about the first two keitel's One side is facing on. The other side is something in the navy. How do you balance a boat. And how do you manage. Fuck yeah It's definitely an interesting balance I've been. I've been in the navy since two thousand ten on prior to becoming a circuits. Were stir i was at the naval academy actually got recruited out of high school in dallas texas to go to naval academy play football there And go to school. I graduated in two thousand ten and became a surface warfare officer in the navy so for those listening surface warfare officers while we do. We pretty much driving since two percents my first four years in the navy and then when i When i transitioned from the ship's short duty a transition to monterey california and i moderate about two dozen fifteen whereas on shore and it wasn't on the ships anymore i wasn't deploying anymore and while on shore at this crazy idea that is to become a race car driver while still serving in the navy. And that's what got me into going that route now At the time i was trying to figure out how to balance it all i still was actively being the navy. I was still doing when navy job during the week. But i had the weekends off so i use the weekends and to really get this journey. Launched in i started basically would fly out to different racetracks. Friday night Race on saturday. Fly home sunday. Go back to work for the navy on. Monday and i was bouncing that every single week. We're basically i didn't have a lot of offense law even when i got home for my navy job I i was always having to train on. My racing. Simulator was contacting different. Potential sponsors so look for sponsorship was doing interviews. I was doing this doing so much. And try and balance all but In in any kind of dirty you're going on leisa it's not going to be easy at all. You're going to figure out how time out of balance a lot of things the ones but it's all part of the journey and it only makes stronger. That's impressive and you've been out there for many many years now. I know last year would have been different. But both these aspects bets maybe the scotts the mascot specific the i've seen the race not in life but on tv. The has certain level of admiral. Rush if you're sitting in the car or if you're dying a big ship how do you balance that. Because that's a tipping point which can take you off that edge. How do you still be on the edge. That's something is intriguing to me as a racer as well as somebody. Who's in the navy. How do you balance that edge. Yeah it'd be edges That's the tough part. That's what i guess separates the good in a great. You know normal from the good you know and The finding that balance it takes time. You don't because you're always having to figure out. Okay how why How do i perform at the highest level possible and everything doing but not overdo it where you know you get burnt out or you're making mistakes or doing this and that so it takes time wonder standing you. You definitely have to push yourself. That's for sure As you're pushing yourself you've just gotta find that line and when you do find it maybe you'll go over it and bugle over at i if you'll go over quite a few times but then eventually find a way to come back and find a way to balancing where you can be on all these different sides and just kind of toting that line you know constantly but that's what it takes to be really really good at what you do and be good things especially at once and talking about a lot of good things. the erasing association is all about video gaming and talk a little bit about that. That's pretty interesting. Yes so erasing association. It is all gaming. it's all virtual. It's all people basically Using a gaming to race against each other around the world without having to really actually be anywhere physically you can be at home and race against people and platform The software we used at first to get this thing going was i racing irish. They have a great racing platform. Where you can simulate racing on there and race against your friends or anybody else in the world cup. Any given time on the platform. So we use that host tournaments or we are going to branch out a little bit and have more. We're going to branch out and have a grand through resumes part of it. We're even going to have mario kart and a lot of people morning. Are you know even if you haven't done. i racing. Which is intense you know. Maybe he played playstation and done and done guarantee as well but playstation and done grandkids will will i. I saw pretty much. Everybody has played. Mario kart all definitely. Everybody else gave you but i have played. I compete with my son on far. I have an expert at. I suck at it my status. I'm sure you'd be happy to hear that these platforms that she can. But how did the idea came about but erasing. An e gaming is becoming is becoming big across the bridge that are competitions for first schuster's our strategy games and many more. But how did that idea come about to. Yes so the idea really came about last year as we're going through the pandemic of everything was kicking off. We weren't sure how sports we're going to be affected for the future but what we did find out was something that everyone could do no matter what pandemic was going on At least home run could do. Was you know Gaming right worse was growing a lot with each world growing a lot. we figured. Hey let's start our own Gaming tournaments where people at home can play against each other. But since i'm a race car driver. Obviously i wanna geared towards more of the More the racing side of things for gaming but we we started it. That's wanna do one figure out a way to put on tournaments where people can win cash prizes. We wanted it to be something. Where even if you're a professional race car driver racing in real life on tv you know getting all that broadcast time getting paid all that even if you can't become that at least from home you have a chance to raise against people broadcasted online streams and affiliates home. You get a chance to win cash money and we've given out so far So far we've had two big events. Our next one is actually coming up here soon but in the two big eventually giving away fifteen thousand dollars cats to people who have been finishing in the top. Three five of the events so You know people are actually winning money. I mean this is life changing stuff. you know. there's people who have walked away with seven thousand four thousand two thousand dollar checks you know and and this at that can pay some bills for some people so We're just giving people the opportunity to compete each year in multiple events win money Be able to use it for whatever they want and from. You know from narrow. Eventually you know maybe we'll get even more people to compete more people to come watch More people who are watching the eventually start competing because they wanna win the money to. I want to give people a chance to feel like a pro in. The gaming world is becoming more sophisticated more hardware than software and becoming second so much now the mixed reality on his asians where you can actually muscled yourself. So much against the quality of the games are also becoming pretty good today You know and you can just magic. How this black on the scale. So what does the big plans apart from the doorman which is coming up on. Today's what other things which are being wrapped around on this platform itself so upcoming tournaments basically what we try to do is for The i racing tournaments that we do within our grayson association We usually try to do those once. A quarter that's kind of dame right there so so far we had one big event. This year we had one at the in the last year We have a another big one coming up here soon And the next one after that will be in september and then why have another one december to close out the year and on the answer is no side of it. Were just getting that launched. We're hoping to have our first event for that one this summer. I don't know exactly what month exactly what time we're gonna do. A in the in the middle working. God these elbow on how we're going to brunch assets. How we're gonna set it up. What vehicles we're gonna use what's going to be. The prizemoney won't people to actually win money. So we're getting all that stuff set up. And then a mario kart. We're gonna get that going. Like mario kart will happen this year. Hopefully at least one or two events upper mario. Dr anything with Is lower aiming to have at least two more events Throughout the rest of this year. But if we can get both bills going it's going to really really bring this whole thing. The full circle where people on entry level can run mario kart and then when they stepped up to the bigger leagues. It gets a rid mohan then when they really wanna step it up and really feel like a pro on a trim simulation software platform. They can move up to the ira in ones and win even bigger money. So we'll have step up like that and it'll it'll be really fun time a lot of people and we'll just have different levels where anyone can come in for find and do it from anywhere in the world from your house. Mario kart cabinet shindo switch. You can be you know sitting. I dunno waiting on a waiting somewhere. You know for repeats you ever coffee or whatever your weight on and can have your switch. It'd be playing in tournament so we're just trying to make it fun for everybody. He give everyone the opportunity to compete for cash. Prizes money And at the day. Even if you don't win it was just having fun competing against other competitors. Were really good. I'm here for my. I'm definitely playing playing for show talking about the on the side of korea which is something in the navy it would that entire process. Are you know people. Who are civilians like us in the different videos than y'all go through a lot from training from racking up those rhinestone ensuring that not only your safety but you're the people around you are safe and you know there are. A lot of deployments happened I know there will be a lot of private and confidential stuff that you can argue. But we'd like to touch upon. Either one of the deployments which have been memorable for you which have probably edge student defined you who you are. Yeah i i've been on two different deployments on in my career Long deployments longer deployments in my career had its mid-month the planet so the arabian gulf added five month deployment During a ten months. When i was out say i'd learned a lot on both of women's but that first one really taught me time because i was like the first time i was completely away from the united states of america for very long periods on you know prior to that i had been other places. I've you know i've been to spain. Had been to nigeria in some other spots but and never for you know ten months a very long time to be a ways. I learned a lot learned how to one the a bit more independent Learned how to manage all the stuff. I had going on in life while being away Learned how to survive out there. You know i'm not saying that whenever bad conditions or anything we weren't but You know still. It's different places. Different different culture. Different everything you. It's a completely different world out there so Learned a lot in had fun doing it. and then also to you know during that time i was working on all my different all affiliations as an officer as a surface our throughout so working on his fixation. I taught myself a lot of different ways to study even study tactics. I retain a lot of information and apply it editor. it's not only retain it with supply it And all data learn during that time allowed me to. I was able to transition some of that knowledge. Some of those tactics. That little skill sets to what i'm doing now on life even racing an that's so It's all been super helpful. Learned a lot in on better now because it s katiba docking a little bit about your profession. That is something which definitely intrigued me is that you are also an nbc analyst for spots and being analytic wise you to crunch data to analyze games and understand different players understand different things which allow them to perform beta. So how do you get into bad zone. Because it on that the Three hours each other which is racing being a navy officer doing being co founder and then being an endless therefore different avatars. How do you get into this hour of being anonymous and crunching data and looking a lot of other as it was Definitely A nice blessing to be able to have the opportunity to do it with nbc. Sports i had never really done it before this we We we had some great connections through our network at increase sports and they gave me the opportunity just because they knew have personality they knew i had a background in military background in racing background on a lot of different things where i could authentic. We relates to different. Things were happening at the track. And i can insulin. My past background experiences to make connections with some of the fans and the viewers were watching these broadcasts a lot of a lot of viewers who watched nascar a very patriotic maybe to have military ties That's why you some my military experiences to tie it with things. Try to relate a little bit more with the crowd. Were relatable wait a little bit more. Wish our fans and and just give them a different perspective from someone who maybe didn't come from the broadcast world. I didn't come really from the racing world. I started racing five six years ago. So all these different views that i was able to come in weddings or something different You know new light for everyone in ashland doing it learned a lot and You know ended up turning out pretty decent. That's good and i hope you continue doing that. Because that also would be keeping you in as moa but looking at your career where have four different roles. That's if somebody has to do the same thing like maybe same professions are different professions. What would be your advice to them. How do they manage these for different personas of themselves when you're trying to manage a whole bunch of different big things at once You really gotta plan out your days. Well you have to map out and understand okay. Each day you got maximize seventeen eighteen hours of that day. Are you sleep. Were about six or seven hours and say get seven. That's a that's a nice day but usually around six hours of sleep but though there eighteen hours of the day yacht to really really focus on You know Mapping out the day prior to that. You understand. Kate going into this day. This is what i need to get done because all the to not get everything there's always going to be worked with always going to be more stuff to the you're not gonna get into one day. Do all these things. I'm not gonna have anything else left to do now. You're always gonna have more stuff to your business and everything is going. Well you're going to always have more to use though just map out your days. Write everything down say okay. Hey at during this time block them doing this during this time. Luck on doing this during this time block on doing this mixture timely day For you to ensure his time where you can you eat makes time for you to Physical fitness build a workout. Run whatever you gotta do. Make sure it's time for you to Also better yourself that whatever your crafted look at training time. You know all this stuff mixing manager day. It's a manager. Dan the right way. You have to be out once he map it out in a way where you can stay consistent with it. And that's because if you just map it out in a way that's not going to be very consistent and you're not you're not gonna last but you can nap it out in a way where you will always be consistent with somebody who stayed true to all the time. It's going to help you out. A lot is going to help you get closer to whatever success. Look that's the date that probably some learnings for me as well but but building on this photo. Do you have somebody whom you look up to as mentor or coach. Who your nascar. I'm sure they're gonna be a coach. Who coaching you today. But is that a life mental whom you look up to. There's a lot of people that i've learned a lot of things from Especially some motivational speakers. Like bless brown. And eric thomas Both of them. We'll speak than have a lot of great life experiences. But a lot of their different philosophies on how to approach goals in life and just how to approach life in general alert a lot from them and from what i learned from them is kind of why i am the way i am now I think i had a lot of that stuff already in me is just listening to them. Multiple times is what helped me understand and realize that it was already on me and i can execute and you all the different things that they mentioned investing and how does family friend and the largest stock enough influence support. What you're doing and our they need you as you've moved to this journey family friends is always very important especially to have their support you know by having their support not like they actually have to do anything. Most of the time is just more of business. They just need to not get in the way. That's the biggest thing i think with anyone who has any big goals in life. You know your family and friends. They just need to be the positive light for you. This the new do is give positively. Continue to encourage you continue to be. You know the person that they that you convinced to if you're having a bad day all that stuff that's all they need to do this the biggest thing is. Sometimes you'll see some families some friends out there who you know. Their loved one is trying to go after. Whatever big goal. Maybe they're having a hard time then family steps in and tries to keep them from doing like. Don't get in their way. You know to support. Be there and be positive for them. And that's they need like let them do their thing. Go learn you know. Good things will happen. Bad things will happen. But it's all part of the process taking a talking to family and rewinding a little bit. You're not originally from us. As i understand you you're parents migrated from nigeria and I've done ludicrous. new So you when you look at your childhood. Did you ever think that you'll be doing this. What you're doing today was different planning your mind. How how's the childhood chipped bay you all today childhood. I had no clue that i'd be racing. A nascar or being in the navy or any any of that While growing up. When i got the middle school i was thinking about college at some point house. They can play college football thinking about that. But i had no clue that i would ever get to this point. You know racing. A nascar so Via that that dream of bracing didn't really come until probably sometime around when he thirteen or fourteen when i really started thinking about it It prior to that. I had never thought about it now. I was always into cars. I liked cars. they're cool. I like racing about. It was cool. But i just never had the thought of being a driver That that just didn't cross my mind. I didn't feel like it was something i was going to be able to do. Ever it. Just i didn't think and then also one day it clicked and i was like i can do this. I don't know why. But i feel like i can do this and i need to go to this and i went and did it interesting. No jesse i think the conversation has been amazing. I know you're super busy. All octopus schedules a this has been a far enriching conversation today. And you just motivates. I'm sure my listeners including me to think about not having one but having multiple professions to in a move life forward. Thank you for your time at. This has been paid and i really have a had a pleasure to talk to you today. Yeah thank you so much for having me on the show. Yeah yeah hopefully someone the nerves. I got some good information from it. And for those out there going after big goals and dreams understand. It's gonna be hard. It's going to be easy. You have to have faith throughout the whole time and you have to understand that life will reward those who staying strong enough long enough. Aca jesse thank you for that Great putting all right so you take stay and behind the are you have to thank you for listening in and we close yet another of monsters. If you've enjoyed the episode please you can help us out by showing it on social media. I would personally appreciate that. It's how we can reach more listeners. And the listeners. We have the more awesome guest. I can get in touch and convinced participate in these conversations that our joy to have for me and i hope they are joy for you to listen as well. You can also help a lot leaving reviews on i tunes or your podcast. Choice reviews are surprisingly helpful in supporting. Get to more or less. If this episode has intrigued you. I would request you to subscribe to the podcast to stay up to date and get notified to the future with that. I do and see you in the next episode.

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Episode 49: Danny Stockman (RWP)

The Down and Dirty Show

35:21 min | 2 years ago

Episode 49: Danny Stockman (RWP)

"Hello. And welcome to another episode of the racing writers podcast episode forty nine to all those who are returning listeners. Welcome back, and to all those who may just be discovering us, welcome. And I hope you will go and enjoy the archives that a lot here on the racing writers podcast. Like, I said episodes forty nine pretty cool. So today's episode is one that I have been waiting to air kind of the right time. And Daniel Hamrick, of course is making a splash Knicks entity series. So this conversation is with his crew chiefs, Danny Stockman, so Danny, of course, is a guiding the ship of the number twenty one Richards racing team and he's been around NASCAR. For quite a while has worked with many recognizable names in the sport. People like Brendon gone. The Dylan brothers Ron corner day. But Danny has a really fascinating and fun backstory himself. He's a third generation racer. He has worked his way up from sweeping floors to being cruelty. And it's a fascinating story. That's what I love to do here on the podcast. So I'm really excited to air this some fun nuggets that I want you to listen for and there's a lot here. But hear hear some of the ones I really want to listen for in this episode. So Danny is going to tell you about how when he was younger. He would study and quiz himself from racing textbook. So learning about race cars camber chassis, all that I got a real good kick out of that. He's also going to tell you about how he had a certain milestone that he wanted to hit of when he wanted to crew chief yet a certain age he wanted to be twenty seven and be a occurred chief and spoiler alert. He did. And another thing in here that I found really interesting was his brutal honesty when it came to Richard Childress racing particularly the Cup series side the Cup teams, and Danny will tell you that he wants to be part of having Richard Childress racing essentially relevant in the Cup series. Have the media talk about them? Again. He used some really. Blunt terms that I'm gonna wait for you to to listen to to hear for yourself about their performance and how they need to turn things around. So so they'll run some of those are some of the fun things and one of the other things that's kind kinda the whole a strong point of this podcast. I guess you could say is Danny talking about his current driver. Daniel Hamrick who's going to the Cup series next year? But this is their second year working together in the expanding series. And you're gonna hear Danny talk about how intelligent and involve Daniel is with his race team for those who don't know a lot about Daniel he has grown up racer, obviously. But he's very hands on racer. He's had to work on a lot of his own stuff. He knows his way around race car, and that kind of translate to translates to a very high racing I IQ, and it's very interesting to hear a crew chief talk about that in their driver. And kinda how that makes for an interesting dynamic within race team. So really really fun episode very insightful from Danny stockmen. He was a lot of fun to to talk to. We had a great time at ritual racing doing a doing this chat during this podcast. So I'm glad it's time to air it, of course, if you have any feedback, and if you wanna tell me what you enjoyed about the podcast, please do you can find me on Twitter at Kelly Crandall. I was really happy that there was a lot of feedback and a lot of really cool things to say. But from you guys after last week's episode was Sheldon creed. He's another one that has such a great racing background. And it was a lot of fun to get to know him and GM just announced that a Sheldon will be full time with them next year in the truck series. So that's awesome, very timely there. So please go back to the archives and listen to that episode because you're going to hear his name a lot next year. This time next week, we will have three brand new NASCAR champions and very excited about that. I'm sure everybody is. And I bring that up because. As we go into next week's episode my plan, and we all know on this podcast things can change. My plan is to hopefully have a reaction episode after homestead weekend to serve as next week's podcast. So that's the plan to hopefully, have some some reaction to a four championship weekend. Very excited to get down there. Home said a wonderful track. It puts out great racing. And I'm sure it's going to be another great weekend before I get too long winded here, which I am sure I already am. Let me wrap it up there. Let's get to the episode. Thanks again to Richard Childress racing Kayla Darrow. Everybody over there who made this possible. And for putting Danny together in the same room. We can get this done. So fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. Here is episode fourteen. Nine of the racing writers podcast with Danny Stockman. All right. Thank you Danny for welcoming me into your office on Tuesday. What's Tuesday like around the shop after a race weekend. Tuesday's actually pretty quiet Tuesday's kind of were get to really dig into the next week or the upcoming week. Mondays are very very busy trying to debrief from the past weekend in the mornings and a long with making sure all the parts and pieces components and everything are right on the primary car for the next weekend. And then, you know, obviously, get with the people and the upcoming thrash. That's coming dismissed sure that we have everything in line and everything I would say that's more of a later day Monday than than Tuesday morning is just definitely that's kind of my time to really dig into what I want to achieve this far as the issues we're going to fight for the following weekend. Some of the, you know, making sure we got enough break cooling, making sure we have all the little details finalized. So in the afternoon, I can make sure that the guys know exactly what we need and they're just head down digging. So Tuesday's more look ahead day. I would assume that Monday is your last kind of look back at the weekend that was type thing before moving on. Exactly exactly, you know, like some of like tomorrow might be working on some of the next week a little bit. It but today is solely really this weekend. That's coming up. I would say so not a whole lot of looking back. It's all about going forward. Exactly, exactly. Which which I don't really like to to look back. We have to from a company standpoint. So that when we go back to that racetrack again to make sure that we don't miss any details, but it's mainly Tuesday's or just focused on what's ahead. So I wanna give you a chance again to kind of tell your story and background because again the little bit that I know of it seems really really fascinating. But I wanna touch on twenty one team stuff. I so. I've heard Daniel Hamrick say in the past he knew you were his guy. I'm curious did you to have a previous relationship or know each other in any way before you started critiquing for so basically, no we knew each other Austin and tie and Mike and Tina Dylan had Daniel around as a child early teen growing up hanging out with them at their house, going -cations, go kart race and ban lera rates and all that stuff, and I always knew Daniel Hamrick. So when I came to work at our CR two thousand ten to be Austin's crew chief Austin always had a lot of respect. And always bragged about how good Daniel Hamrick was, and I always knew that one day that Austin wanted Daniel to be at our CR, he always says if he could if he ever made it to the big leagues that he would do whatever he he had to do to help. Daniel make it to the next step. And it's pretty funny to see that that it's all coming full circle. And pretty awesome. Really? So so me working with Austin gave me that connection to Daniel. He would be around. I didn't really he wasn't. I didn't really know him. I knew just from Austin no of him than no no of him, you know, high hyphen all that stuff. And then I remember when I was on the twenty seven Cup team there in two thousand sixteen for the last half of the season. I started hearing rumblings of Daniel coming here that got me really excited. I wanted to I like working with a young guys and. I knew that that opportunity might be available Dylan, Mike Dillon approach me and asked me if I wanted to work with Daniel like really excited about it. Heck, yeah. And I think Daniel felt the same about me. And it's just been it's been good. It's been a really fun fun year. Two thousand eighteen is definitely been been very fun two thousand seventeen you know, with a rookie their first year, you have high expectations, and you you really feel like you should be doing better than you than you are. But when you look back, it was actually, okay or performance was okay. So and this year two thousand eighteen is definitely been been awesome. We we definitely wish we would we would have, you know, five or six or even eight wins by now, I feel like we've had really fast cars and we've been in contention every week, and we're we're not missing a beat. We just haven't took the checkered flag yet. But we're there, and then guys know they got they got a race us to beat us. And and. It's fun and Daniels doing really good job. And just got to keep this team motivated and keep doing what we're doing to get to homestead everything that you heard from Austin along the way and everybody else about Daniel hasn't matched up with what you have now seen from him as driver working with him in terms of his talent. And maybe what he can bring to a raise team feedback stuff like that. Yeah. Most definitely he's Daniel is not just a driver. He's actually very smart with the car side of things, and he has very good feel of the car. He he works. It's like people ask me questions about him all the time and the best the best thing that I can or the best way. I can explain it is you have some drivers that they show up. They just get in the car. They're short five minutes before practice. They get in the car. Go do their Daniel is here. He's working on the. He's working on everything globally. Right. Like now that he's got a Cup. Right. He's going to be working on that too. He's going to be putting himself in situations to make sure that he's they're going to get the most out of that situation. And he's helping me my engineer my team make the right decisions is just not me. And my engineer. It's he's involved. He's involved in what we got going on. He's involved in decisions that I'm making his racing. I q seems very very high. Exactly. And that's that's where you can. You can actually utilize him because his racing. I q is high or some guys just don't really have a clue he does. And it makes it it makes it fun. It makes it easier when you have more brains than more smarts on board to to make decisions. Just I just feel like it's just better. So you mentioned two thousand eighteen of course, wanting more wins, but it has been a very decent year. Again, continue for the championship. When I looked at the numbers the numbers this year alrea. Eighty four or five times not times. But but better than the overall numbers from two thousand seventeen so the team as a whole you Daniel everybody on this group. What's been the difference? Has it been just experience or how has the progression gone to get to where it's been? Of course, you want it, of course to be better the next year. But what's been that that both like, I think it's definitely a a little bit of everything we made our cars better this winter we had some we made some bad decisions as a company over the last few years. I feel like we we built better cars we put a team together. I got my longtime engineer back that I had with Andrew Dickson and Daniel for sure as knows what he wants more than he than he did last year being a rookie. And we're just we're just as a team where recent smart, we're not doing anything dumb. We're making small strides in. Setup packages and the way we're building our cars and taking them to the racetrack. And we're not making decisions, and I feel like that's really allowing us to perform upfront every week. And we don't have any hiccups. We're always there were always we're always where we need to be. So I think it's just a little bit of everything. So if my research is correct I wanna jump to you personally. Now, you grew up racing as well. I believe it was what late models out on the west coast. So kinda just take me back a little bit to kind of how you got your start just in racing in general. And again, I believe you even race against Brendan. Yes, if that's right. So I basically I'm third generation that my grandfather was a very well known and midget and sprint car racer in the fifties. And he drove for Vic Etel Brock. He was in the Indy. Five hundred in nineteen fifty something. And that's kind of word all starting. My dad started racing. At a very young age of sixteen. Big cars race, go karts before that and then same same with me. I started racing go karts and quarter midgets at age of five really taken it on at seven till I was about sixteen and then at sixteen I got I got a super late model and decided that we were going to try try that route. And and see if we could do anything, and I remember Irwindale speedway the Naga Royal night believers either two thousand or nineteen ninety nine one of the one of those years, Brendan ran number twenty and Iran number twenty. Well, I already had the number purchased at Irwindale speedway. That was my number twenty. Well, Brendan wanted to make a deal with my dad where he wanted to run number twenty. My dad told him. No that was my number. So he had to run number one twenty and that story comes up all the. Time when he sees my dad, and and everything it's it's pretty funny, but Brendan actually won the very first inaugural night at at Irwindale speedway. So that's kind of how my first rumblings of knowing of Brendan gone. And then later on in the years, I decided that driving wasn't really what I wanted to do any more just the money side of things and how expensive and everything it was I decided to go to work on a race team. And I gave Shane Wilson which was Brennan's crew chief resume Phoenix. And I started working at at Brendan gones race team in two thousand two at like November. I think I worked there for four or five years under Shane Wilson. And then he left and went to Pinski and all that stuff. And I I mean, I started at the bottom they they made me work a a two week trial period. I was young to make sure that I was capable of doing the job. And after four days they hired me. And. Shane wilson. I still give him crap today about he he barely paid me enough to be able to get an apartment survive in Las Vegas. It's not cheap. And I remember he he gave me said I can pay you this much per week. And I said, I just I can't make that work Shane, I I need this. They said, okay. Well, you gave me that. And I worked there, and I I worked my guts out, and, you know, sweeping the floors, and they barely let me build crush panels in the trucks or the Winston west cars and. It was really a stepping stone. For me. I say I started at the bottom at at Orleans racing. But I I built my own race cars before I went to work there. So when you come into a race team like that, you they're not gonna just let you do whatever you want. They're going to make you work from the bottom. And that's what they did. And tales of people saying, I swept floors, actually true. No, it is it is actually true. They're just not gonna let you come in there and put the car together they're gonna make you to start somewhere. Exactly. And I did that. And by the time, I left and decided I wanted to come to North Carolina. I was the car CI or the truck chief there at Orleans racing event, and I left there. And and decided I wanted to come to North Carolina and Rick Corelli, a childhood hero of mine racing on the west coast. He was just recruited the high plains drifter was one of the baddest race car drivers on the west coast. And and watched him rakes. As a kid called me and want to recover to work for Kevin Harvick I did that and worked there for a few years one a lot of races with Ron Hornets as a car chief truck chief under recreation, which who taught me a lot Tommy a lot and how to be a crew chief in what it took and the and and how to prepare yourself, and those were those were fun. Yes. I I love recruited to death. We want a lot of race with Hornets. And and we had a lot of lot of good times. And this is this is where I'm at now. So going back to you making the decision that driving just wasn't than workout exp. It was more of. Have to be realistic about this. And I go work on the cars instead of trying to spend all my money and run out of money, or whatever it was to to try to be a driver myself. Yeah. I remember my my mom and dad like ever since I was seven years old. It was like men were racing. You're going to be the next Jeff, Gordon, right? And that's what we worked as a family like we we would go on lake trips or or river trips and stuff like that. But we were racing all the time. And that's like I didn't have very many summers. My dad would make me work at the shop. And I'd go home and work on my race car. My go kart and we race. That's what we did. It just got to the point where for me to make it to the next level. Like, we just didn't have the funding that it was going to take to do that. And I was I just told myself like, I don't think I wanna do this is it's not realistic. I wanna be a crew chief, and I told myself, and I there's other people that I I guess I told because they remind me of it today by the time, I'm twenty seven I'm going to be a crew chief in trucks Finnity or Cup. I worked my butt off. I worked a lot of hours. I I would be the first one to show up the shop. I'd be the last one to leave. And I just I wanted people to know that I was serious about about what I was doing. And by the time, I was twenty six Mike Dillon called me at the end of two thousand nine truck season. And he wanted wanted me to be Austin Dillon's crew chief, and it was like. Wow. So you hit you hit a hit my goal. And it was it was fairly quick. Like, I I started working at Orleans racing in two thousand at the end of two thousand two sweeping the floors like. I said I did know how to work on race cars, I knew setup stuff, but by the time it was two thousand ten they're calling me to be Austin's crew chief so pretty short period of time. Another cool story that that people know about that. I that I tell like as a child a teenager, maybe ten to thirteen years old. You know, most kids were I don't know what we were doing back, then maybe playing pogs or or or something I would lay in bed at night and read Steve Smith, autosport magazines and books on race, car dynamics. And if you go back in the day, you'd go in a circle track magazine, and you look in the very back of the circle track magazine. And there was books on their about roll center. Caster camber what the Pannard bar does in the back. What this does what that doesn't. I would have my mom order me these books, and I would st-. Study these books as a as a young kid, literally study them, and I would lay there in quiz myself in bed like so the track bar if I raise it does this and then the next night out might think about that. And then if I was I offer get what that was I pulled that book out and look at it yelp. It does this. And that's where it all started for like, setups chassis side of things a lot of times, you know, these days, it's kids go to go to college to be an engineer, and they learn mechanical engineering, and all that stuff that was how I learned how to do it. And my dad was was very chassis smart. And he he built his own race cars for a living. He had his own chassis shop for years, and he was very very smart. But I think that's a pretty cool story. So I hear that. I have to ask though, if you spending time doing that was like what were you like in school them where you distracted or I was distracted race. It was. Yeah. It was really bad. I did really good in school. I got good grades because my mom and dad told me if I got below a B I was not racing. Okay. So you still have the incentive that you had had to make as and Bs if I made a CO and racing. So I made as and Bs, but it was difficult. I struggled in school because I am. If it's the same way today, if I'm not interested in something I'm not going to put any effort into it. And like this this stuff this race in this this this lifestyle that I've chosen is what I'm interested in still to this day. I come to work on Monday morning excited to be here. I'm interested in it. I'm all in. I'm. You know, it's just it's it's almost overwhelming. I I'm thirty seven years old now, and I look back, and it's like man, I I think I wanna child my wife just turned thirty seven yesterday. I think we need to probably start working on on children and and headed in that direction, but it's like my whole life. All's I've worked or force trying to get to the top level of the sport. And we just my wife's been supportive of me the whole time and had my back the whole time. It's like wake up one day, and you're thirty seven. It's like, whoa. I guess, you know, forgoing children when you'd be thinking about that. So that's that's weighing on me a little bit. I've been thinking about that. And it's been a good ride. Yes. Exactly. It's this. The sport is just it will if you if you let it will to. Yup, spit you out, but you've got to enjoy it goes by so quick. I mean, I just yesterday. Feels like we're at Daytona. And it's already October second. We're we're getting ready to got like five or six races left. So, but it's been a fun ride. I have no regrets sportsman good to you. You mentioned that you get to the truck series with Austin you in a truck title, you've spent most of your time now niece vanity series haven't expanded title has the extended series just kind of suited you better. Or is it been one of those things where you're not in a rush to take that next? It's suited me. I like racing every week the truck series. I feel like you kinda kinda get stagnant. You race. Maybe once a month or you might have a five week stretch. And then he got like four weeks off. You can't get in a rhythm that way. Man, I'm telling you like xfinity in Cup race, and you have to be on it weekend and week out. And it's it's a lifestyle. But I like that. So I I like the extended series. My alternate goal is to be on Sundays be there on Sundays. What does have to see so talking about the expanding series? You've worked with the younger guys that you mentioned you like, but what's the difference between working with the grandsons of your team owner versus somebody like Paul Menard or now Danielle Henrik or Ron Hornets. So I was fortunate enough to get three championships. I think it was three two or three championships with a Hornets as the truck chief, and then we won a championship with Scott Lynch and Winston list, and then obviously Austin I would say that. Working with Austin and tie is difficult. Definitely. Difficult because of the blood. Okay, I wouldn't say difficult. I would say you got to know how to deal with it. Okay. It no matter. What you do? Everybody knows that like Austin tire. The grandson of Richard shelters. You have more pressure on on you to perform, especially when Austin was first year and trucks. We didn't know nobody really knew what if he was going to be any good, right? If he was going to be just mediocre. Well, we got reysen in in in two thousand ten and he's like sitting on poles and we're leaving laps. And he's I mean, it was just like, wow. This kid's really good. I've had in my racing career or can with Austin Dillon has been so much fun because made him we're like brothers. When he when he started in two thousand ten with me. He was like just a little kid the kid barely had. He didn't even have any facial hair. Nothing. Like, I feel like I taught him like how to be a teenager, and then be a young adult, and that was fun researching and looking through things, of course, pictures of yes. You look at pictures of house young. Austin Dillon was phase this facial hair. Just looks. He looks eight actually, and then, you know. I had fun with that. Because he didn't know anything about it. I mean, he knew more than most eighteen year olds or whatever how old he was sixteen maybe because he's born in the business. But he didn't he didn't know the race car savvy side of things like Hamrick does Henrick knows it because he's had to do it himself. So teach him him. All that stuff was fun working with Ron horn today. A legend one of my biggest heroes in my entire life. Love the guy to death. He just knew what he wanted. He told you this is the way it's going to be. That's how it's going to be you get it close all wheel it from there. And that's what it was. There wasn't no talking about it. You give them the feely wants. He goes in wins the race that was fun. But I had a lot of fun working with with Austin and teaching him and I listened to on Sundays now. And it's you listen to some of the lingo that comes out of his mouth and how he explains something. That's how me and him. That's how we live. Tell it stuck it stuck. And that's how he talks still to this day. Right. And then you know him he's a rookie. But he's not he said to do this his whole life. It's a harder way experience between the two right him. Very smart. He knows I can talk to him very, technically. And he understands where Austin he's he he knows some of that now but back then he didn't more things for you, Danny? I'll let you get back to work. I appreciate you doing this. No problem. It's fun. This will be a little bit of a repetitive question. Have you having already talked about, you know, your past being a driver and whatnot. But how much of that helps you in your current role of maybe just knowing drivers mindset or how to attack a race car stuff? Like that. Definitely. If you talk to people that that are around me a lot. I I have meetings with my guys talking about how mental this is not necessarily just this just life in general. Right. Like, everything we do is so mental, and we can get inside our own heads. And and kind of spin spin ourselves out. I feel like pretty simple pretty easily. And that's one thing that I preached to these younger guys guys. This is how mental this is being me being coming from racing and driving cars myself, and knowing that I can get in my own head. I mean, I I raced drove from a very young child that I was teenager. And I think that's one of the things that that I try to. Preach to these younger guys in the guys moving how mental it is even the teen guys. Like these these guys that when they walk in walk in the gate at the racetrack. I want them confident that they built the best race car in the garage area. The driver when he sits in that seat. I want him confident that he sitting in the best race car the prettiest race car the best. Well prepared race car. He possibly can that comes from me. No, preparing my own race cars, preparing my own go karts, and preparing all my own stuff that if I did not feel when I got to the racetrack that my stuff was prepared as best as it possibly could be or I didn't have the best equipment possible. I didn't wanna be there. So I think that's one thing that I try to preach to these guys. It's important mentally, and I feel like beat me me racing. And doing it myself. I have a good understanding of that side of things leads perfectly woman next question to be. Is there such thing as a crew chief personality or type of leadership and even here in your office? You've got Vince Lombardi picture up there. I see Bev Ryan quote over here. And you just talked about how kind of what you try to instill in your team. So to that end. What would you say, maybe as your style a personality as crew chief in terms of leading driver in your team? You know, I. Different, right. Yeah. Probably like all up and down pit road. There's probably different types of personalities crew chiefs like there is different personalities with drivers. I feel like you fit kind of maybe of, hey, I'm more of a laid-back teach by Zampa type thing or how would you describe your? So I would it's it's kind of hard. When I I was a crew chief when I first came into this the side of it on the crew chief side and not the mechanic Karchi side of things I had a lot to learn a lot. I thought I had it licked, but I did not. And I'll tell you when I first started. I. I was pretty rough on my people and I- micromanaged a lot. I didn't let people do their jobs. I kind of snap at people. And I'll tell you over the years. I have learned that your people are your most important asset that you have we have tools right while you're people are your most important tool. Just like a wrench you need this wrench to tighten that bolt. While you need these people on top of their game to make sure that that whole race cars put together perfect. And that out say that's one thing that I learned over the years is you gotta take care of your people. This sport is so hard. You cannot just kill people and work them to death. You have to give people time with their families time that they need to take care of personal things. So that you get the most out of them when the racetrack or at the shop, and I'd say that I'm pretty laid back nowadays. I was not five years ago. I was really really hard hard hard core on people like I don't know how to explain this. But I was really hard. For on thinking that no matter what you were. I mean, it was liver die racing. And and it took if you didn't work fifteen hours a day. You weren't doing doing a good job. Well, that's not the case. My my whole mentality of it is changed price since I've turned thirty actually. And it's actually been easier on me. Now, it's it's made me enjoy this a lot more. I do I have all these quotes hanging up. And I like looking at him because I think it people come in here and pick this up and read it every time somebody sits in that chair. There's some pretty cool stuff on there. So you know, I. I would say that that I'm more laid back, and I believe in in having the right people is key to success. And there's something to be said about chemistry as far as from driver to crew chief and something to be said about crew chief to engineer and for from the team aspect was staring at this block because it's actually really really cool kind of like the same person. I love being able to scare it something. I want to end kind of on what I hope will be a little bit of a high success. What Brennan success with Ron Trump titles Austin expanded the title you've won Indianapolis with tie. He want to be in the Cup series one day. Do you have any other specific bucket list goals that you can think of or? Yeah. I mean, I I feel like I'm kind of in the middle of my career. Like, I I've won a lot of races and trucks. I've won not as many graces. I'd like to have an extremely I've won a championship. Annex Finnity and trucks. My next in the next chapter of my life is is racing on Sundays and trying to not just race on Sundays though, like talking about like be competitive like be there be when we show up to the racetrack. I want our CR to be like I want. I want the media to be talking about us again, I wanna be show up. And then guys be like man are CR's really really got their shit together. Right now, you know, and I on Sunday. That's what I wanna do. I wanna go. I wanna race on Sundays with whoever the driver is I want to be competitive and I want to win races. And hopefully, I can be guy. Maybe when I'm you know, forty five saying that I've I was able to win truck championship Finnity championship in a Cup championship. Then I'd say if I did that and we had a successful time in Cup that I would be pretty happy. And you mentioned earlier we'll see how it works. I won't press you on whether it's going to happen next year. Yeah. I don't I don't know about all that. We'll just have to wait and see. All right. Well, danny. Thank you for welcoming me into the office. Thanks for taking. I'm really glad I got to know more because it it was a heck. Yeah. Anytime. Thank you. No problem.

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#17 - BEER - Larry Chen

The Down and Dirty Show

1:07:19 hr | 5 months ago

#17 - BEER - Larry Chen

"Welcome everybody because everybody enjoys roadrunners beer with jerry. I am jerry deandre. I haven't done an episode in a while and you know just to be quite honest busy. Which is a blessing given the quarantine vibes and the quarantine compatibility and just making sure that it'd be safe Been hitting the road lately. Gonna formula drift been doing awesome shoots that i could talk about here a little bit hot wheels legends. Which is really awesome awesome. Shoot with ford all these cool things and somebody that. I see along the way at formula drift along the journey of life. He is a true road runner. We've seen each other all across the globe if it's at goodwood if it's at gymkhana if it's down south of the border baja if it's of course formula drift or if it's at his own wedding in hawaii on the north shore of hawaii many moons ago my guest today is somebody if you're an automotive world you've seen photography you might not know who he is. But you're about to know who he is now because he's a great dear friend of not only myself but of our family and our kids are currently playing right now. And they're jovial and happy and the plane legos. In video games and hot wheels and our wives are enjoying a libation. As well as we're gonna enjoy libation now. You're about to meet larry chen what's up. Hey thanks for having me. Don't forget china all where we met which is where it all began the stain. Yeah and also got bill gaga. I think became the best of friends. Yeah that's a great point. Yeah so maybe for you. I mean i was a little later. I feel like we need to elaborate. Start off with the story of uh us. Yeah right what. Your is in two thousand six and that was in beijing so the story is. I went onto this trip as kind of like a photographer slash or nizer slash videographer. I was just doing my role what. I do now in formula drift but less of the logistical side. I was helping more in the logistical side. Because i know a little bit of mandarin. I can kinda get by kind of taught myself made so i kind of joined in on this trip. I thought channel spanish yeah. I time you're mexican. How senior var me. I'm audio so so you mckinney's mckinney's hold. It was this interesting series slash demonstration. Right that you take the best drift drivers around the world and back then think about back then. Two thousand six. That was so long ago that was like we're probably logs. Drifting world was slowly developing. The legs are barely starting to form metaphorically speaking polly wogs growing into bullfrogs. Now yes it was. That and i mean it wasn't really that popular yet. Isn't it niche and it was really like prepubescent like a sell. It was year three former drifts. Yes right and then so you went along as like announcer friends of drift alliance very strong and it was the most What's a good way. More polarizing rising team. Yes they already had a dvd out right and it was like smashing. Grab so crazy and they've we've all grown up some of us. I guess go if you have children maybe you grow up. I don't know now. Joe i feel i mean i guess. We're we're definitely the same people but we're just improved. Yeah no i. I always say you. Don't change evolve so we're we're constantly evolving constant work in progress right. I mean i'm forty two years old. You're held again. I'm thirty six. Gosh dang so bad. So did you let me in with the drift alliance dudes and because it because i remember where we first met the curb at lax. And you real bossy. I said i don't even remember that. But i do have responsibility. Yeah i i did have responsibility. I wanted to do my best to get this circus going. It's already crazy to do drift events and do events in general in the us but in china. It's just so crazy. I mean it's amazing to me. That country works at all. Because there's just so much going on and it's so many moving pieces and somehow it works and it's great that it works but you know just for us to bring this circus to china to beijing the capital. It was absolutely insane. And then that's kind of where i think. A lot of the guys. We did some head butting right. You and i and along with the alliance guys and some of the other drifters and it was just interesting. Time and part of it is honestly. It was the first time for a lot of these guys to go out of country and not only out of country to china of all places i. It's very foreign place not not just not just you know literally but it's in so many ways it's just foreign just thinking about structurally and and what's going on the semantics and and and being cordial and and those guys i had no tattoos back. That the yeah. I know tattoos six. Oh my god you know the fun thing for me is We we always like to relive those times and because it was a good times down it was like a good moment for a lot of us first of all to meet for the first time and also like travel for the first time like. I remember how epic that trip was. I still have all my photos. I still have all my video all the materials that shot with my cannon rebel like original reser exte- yeah and you know he was tyler mcquarry dodger yoshahara. Do you wanna talk about stacked field. Right ryan hamilton. Ross patty von junior ryan turkey. Chris forsberg tony angelo In shorts mohana. No mojang wasn't in the right so he. He started formula drift in two hundred seven And his first event was a she got for fourth fourth. Yeah so it. It was such a stack field. I know i'm forgetting a couple of drivers but in terms of like high end drivers. Oh are ernie fixmer to ernie fix. Yeah and i it was. It was so stacked it was. I think honestly some of the best drift drivers in the world coming together to do this thing which was crazy because nobody showed up for it. That's the funniest. And this is pre livestream. This is pre like facebook instagram. All that stuff. Yeah i love thinking about a. I love talking about this kind of stuff. One of the things that i took away from it was tony angelo. came up with this Funny term the currency is called r. m. b. right. It's roaming be up in mandarin but you know in english we call it our m. b. and then everyone thought they meant are be so then they're like all right so they're called. Rmb's let's call it pops. That was all of us. I know that was topics. That was actually topics. Okay that was forsberg's brother okay. So we we all kind of collectively spit ball that so it was. It was shot up. Shot air force burn. So can we tell the story about why we hated each other or the start of it. I'm trying to recall. What was it exactly. I think there was a lot of larry. Well there was a lot of moments where it was like. Hey who's this guy right. I'm the boss spicy asian guy but then in in return it was like who's this guy. He's the nounce but also trying to like strong. Yeah yeah he's he's the guy who's the leader of the drift lines. But i guess it just makes it makes it that much stronger right. I mean it's kind of like an. I hate to even bring up his name right now. Andy luck. I just despise him but gosh damn it stern stern but fair right. I'm joking. I don't despise him but it's the it's the breaking it to build it up and now and again fast forward to now. You know fourteen years later here we are just hanging out. I'm back here in california because back then oh six fourteen. Yeah i was. I just moved to arizona so since then. You're already friends with a lot of these guys. A former draft and whatever since then i've became such good friends with so cheese drivers tuition was that was that like tipping point for you. It wasn't i wouldn't say was a tipping point but it was something that really helped because afterwards it was the sema show and then at sima show i saw these people again and then they kind of recognize me and then it was just like all right. This is when it really started getting serious of me trying to pursue this as a job which is yeah take photos and just be a media person so back it up. When when did you start shooting. Fd not just not just because that's been fairly recent shooting fd as as like the staffer talk for. How long has that been I my first year as a staff offer was in two thousand twelve. Okay i mean. I would call that fairly recent eight years. I mean that's too high school seasons. I mean yes eight years. But you know i mean jose martinez shot before that right like so. You had some certain people in there and it's but you were you are always present. And what year did you start coming after. My first year at formula drift was long beach. Two thousand six okay. So you were there. Yeah i i came. And that was the first event ever at long beach I think sam probably one that would the viper usually yeah by Y championship six. I was just so green. I showed up and i'm like half my battery's weren't charged and my memory card was like still half full from like me myself or something. I was just so green but the crazy thing is i could still to this day. Look back on those photos and just remember exactly what it was like the smell. The sound really cold morning long beach area it just. It just felt so new and interesting. When i first stepped onto the paddock. And i saw all these cars lined up. And i it was. It was amazing it was something it was something else had triggered something in my brain you know and i always say that formula drift is my home and i'm not shy about telling everyone that that's like my home base and that's where much everything started for me and i appreciate that so much being able to meet people like yourself. Meet people like jim lau ryan sage. What people don't realize a lot of these people behind the scenes that there's some of the funniest most genuine people to hang out with a all the time that we spent together in asia Across the world in australia where we're in japan. You know we get to shoot all of these cool things and experience all these cool events and countries and cultures and drivers and all of that What what people don't realize is that these guys live breathe. Talk walk everything drifting. That's all they do. They don't care about anything else when in transit. When we're going from hotel to venue or we're in we're going to dinner or even when we're at dinner or the after party no matter what like the the thing that we're all talking about in the thing that we're all trying to improve. Is this sport. That is drifting and You know it's you say so. Well it's not a fad. But you know you prior to jumping on this podcast you you. We're recording for my house and you gave me a great compliment. But i would have to say like you're you're or whatever it bounce back and goes right back to you your eagerness and enthusiasm is infectious because you do like you say live breathe. Drifting is not. Just what i do i am just. I'm just a fan of so many things and some thoughts that come to my mind in regards to the way you talk and the way you shoot photos or even just walking around our house you you have the i remember early on you know. Make khania great again which leave that alone but konya thinks in colors and thinks in different ways your is and your your vision. I think has really helped an assisted. You feel you have a leg up on the competition in not only drifting world but made me photography or what separates you from the rest of the pack because again. I think it does come down to relationships. People enjoy workman you. We've been grc. We've been to have worked with the same companies if it's an energy drink company an events that's a that's a really good point. I mean just in quick segue before. I answer that question. It's hilarious to me that you have to say. Look at larry so often i mean i can't remember how many times you've said that i take so much pride in that you know when i'm at these events you know now. I'm so lucky that i have amazing. Help by my entourage of photographers. Basically copies of me. Yeah they entourage or a team or you know. I feel like yeah. I think was respectful way of saying. I think they're copies of me. Because if i'm gone they could do just as good or if not work than me In photo and video or whatever you know that's kind of like my Way of seeing it. Because i actually do get these guys. These guys are so good and they have a different. I than you know so when i see what they're shooting a and they've shot something like i've shot at the same track for example like our window. This is my what fifteenth sixteenth time. Judah our window right through the mouth. Whatever how i i've every single shot every single a not every single or window but i've tried every single long beach right but when somebody finds another angle like a new angle and especially if somebody that i brought on that i taught and i see that they've found this new thing. It just pushes me even harder but but besides that podium thing they could do it too just as good as if not better but i take so much pride in taking this shot that so historic you know these people. They work so hard. The drivers the teams. Everybody just to get on that step and it doesn't have to be the top step like for example jeff jones saying if he got on the step third place he would literally take is charger off his car and bring it up with brock super charger. And i'm like. I wanted to see that to capture that so bad and it's such an honor for me to hear the words. Hey look at larry. Because you're telling the drivers. They're just celebration. They're celebrating their they. Just they just want to enjoy this moment. And it's so important in motor sport. That's what people care about like people just care about the podium shaw and like who won you know and they worked hard to get there and time and time again. We always have to do that ceremony. And there's a reason why. I'm the one taking the pictures and you're the one doing the announcing because just even planet tradition and i do agree. I mean motor. Sport is about tradition. And if it's if his formula one nascar if it's if it's circle track if it's dirt whatever in baja and all these different forms of motorsports rally cross and we've coined these things right. You know even between you and your team and doing certain things in the garb that you wear and the think take bag. I mean people you've created this this iconography of yourself and and people really i think cherish that and want to be part of that equation right. So here's in. Like i tell my oldest son it's like it's like school. Hey man you know. The rules play the game. So if you wanna play the game you wanna play the drift. You gotta you gotta do it. And i know you aspire you want to be up there and be like look at larry and that's what i always say i said hey when he said when you hear those words look learn you gotta do something right. You did something. And you're there for a reason. So congratulations i gotta ask you before. I mean i bounce around this and we got involved. I'm no worse on podcast. No man will. I will talk until they have to shut me off. that's cool. I mean. I think our wives give us like an hour limits so we gotta we gotta bankers But what what photographer you admire most and kind of have have Not emulated admire. As far as the way they do things they have their own style but were an effective and have executed but also dabble in here. Because you're so busy with cars cars cars. But i think you you have an affinity for design you enjoy different manufacturers so go yeah i live right on that however ucy yet This is a question that i get asked pretty often and i think i pretty much have the same answer every single time. So much of it really is. I touched on this Just a couple minutes ago The my peers. People that i work with. They push me so hard because we are. These are the only people that i'm in direct competition with. You know the people that. I'm at the same event. We have the same chances to get these photos. We have the same chances to make something amazing about a from something that potentially is ugly. And barring right like a lot of these tracks let's be honest. They're not pretty. Yeah you know. They're actually pretty ugly. Ugliest your shot it not non. Fda martin will. I think is probably the ugliest jack. And that's interesting right because you shoot you. Million guy sean sean. A lot of times. I've driven it a lot of times and it's just so ugly mars. You can't shoot any corner without getting a porta. Potty in the shot legitimately right yeah and It's just the way the cloud structure or just the area is it's very gray and dusty land. Yeah so with that said How many times do we have to shoot him. Parking lots like right formula. Jeff las vegas. It's such an ugly area because guess what as a parking lot outside of track but if you work hard and you push and you push and you push and you look at every single angle. You can find beauty in this thing. That's realistically to the naked. I guess a pretty ugly the colors the light the all the colors. And that's that's like having a white room. Like i was telling my wife again just at our house back to design right because the elements a white room can be so much more dynamic because you have to bring the color. In which are the people which are which is the flair and the music and that sensory overload. You bring those senses into it like you just gifted me. A photo from is that potatoes out twenty four hours of daytona daytona. Sorry i looked at it briefly. Because i was excited to see so awesome photo but the colors and just the streaking of the light. And all that because if you just shot that now with open lens or panned it just would be kind of a stark photo and it would still be great which is given the extra flared that brush. Brush stroke of the of the paintbrush. Just got a little richer. Yes so like for example with the photo like that and then we're moving to topics really quick photo like that. You know it it it Just in my mind. I think of it. I consider it probably one of my greatest photos of twenty nineteen and it was pretty early on. You know i. I feel like i set the bar pretty high up to get something like that and it was just all on a whim and it was just one of those things where it's completely exit accidental. But something that's completely ordinary and realistically to ordinary person. Not that pretty. I just created. I'm so lucky to be able to create something that even got the attention of the attention of people. Now to the point where i'm actually able to sell that print that i put myself home with my cannon large format printer. I signed him. And i am. I am able to kind of share this piece with people all across the world. It was just some guy barbecuing and he was camping and like roasting whatever marshmallows and he just happened to set up some christmas lights on the fence next says campsite and i just showed up. You know with my big lenses and a mike. Hey can i just like take pictures in your cam and turned into that. And the that's the light streak so there. That's those christmas light frame. Yes they're actually almost so so close. Almost touching my counter no way but a long land so you can get the shot. Exactly exactly so. It's ordinary christmas. Lights that some guy set up to be just because they thought it would create some nice ambience. It's the it's the Last corner of the car going up onto the bank And they just had this camping spots afterwards. It's so funny. I stayed there for maybe twenty minutes. I smelled like campfires so bad. Because i was standing right next their fire but they were just so stoked that that somebody. I guess i was just coming to visit. But they just didn't realize that what i was there for and it was just so cool to be able to make something like that. You talk about canon and and we got to jump into that. Because that whole seeker of light zach oil somebody. I met my hosted. A red bull aloom rebel aloom had a debut and they did their presentation. Scottsdale waterfront on how to waterfronts basically a canal in. I don't know it's a weird. It's a weird area and it's got but regardless the aloom event is really rad. Backlit pictures or back. Large format prints. So i met him there and i've always loved his work actress. I was really impressed with meeting him. And i liked his candor and how he works and how he does things i would say you kind of rival him in a different spaces much more organic getting the water flow captioned. The waves mother nature yours. It's not mother nature. It's definitely quite the contrary. But they're still events that happened in need to be able to capture that. So the whole thing and i listened to yours and zacks talks one time and you guys have kind of a very simpatico type of experience with what you're capturing off. Okay so i have. A great story about man knows that goes k. And i'm just gonna say right off the bat he's the greatest surfer gopher of our time. Okay yeah no. There's no question there's there's another dude and his name is escaping me but come up somebody. Will somebody comment Dont it'll come. So zach is me in sir form and i made friends with a cannon people you know i was becoming part of that family right. And then they. They're like. Oh they keep talking about zach. Naw guy was like who. The heck is zack ago. You know he's he's the only half asian guy or the asian person you know in the canon lineup. So i was like. Who's this guy. You know who. Who am i up against. And they told me straight up there like all right when you meet him. You guys are become you guys will become best friends within moments. Just you're not even ready for this. It's going to be amazing so much room. For activity exactly so we they. They set us up to do speaking events at some photo. Expo new york at the javits center right and he. Anyways i meet him within. Twenty minutes legitimately were best friends. Twenty minutes because we just have so much to relate to. I mean we do the same job we are. We essentially are doing the same job on the commercial side on the editorial side The magazine covers that he's had which you know the cover of national geographic. You you know being being able to shoot. Michael phelps. You know those things i can at least relate to on the car world you know for me like being able to shoot one on one with mario andretti taking me a ride like i'm two inches away from our andretti's is you know. And and that kind of stuff is just so crazy. How you still access you out. That's that's all. I care about that. My life is getting this access and being a part of this world you know because that's what gets me excited and you know it's funny that you mentioned I just Infectious were saying something about just got away but my my my migrants excitement for this thing that has car culture could be a little infectious on part of ease. Because i genuinely just feel so alive. When i'm able to be a part of this thing because looking out from the outside a lot of people may think that it's not so accessible but it actually is. You know it's for everybody. You know the hot wheels thing the magazine's the car meets the you anybody you know if if it was a normal time right now and if goodwood festival speed was happening or or whatever you could save up your pennies and you can go to the same events that we're going to you know and you may not have the same access but you at least get to experience different way in your own way and potentially that might even be better. Because you're not just out as us do you. Does your you talk about your peers. Lewis in the team Do with them hearing something like this. Do you think they're offended by calling them kind of duplicates of yourself. I mean i would hope not Because obviously you're giving them praise but you're calling them yourself where it's like anybody that was me it's like i don't want to be duplicate of them. I'd rather do my own thing with the imprint. Of course like especially louis more more than anybody right. It's tough to say because you know they like their own things. They have their own car culture things that they are yellow rally. All that stuff leaf is a big bmw guy. Tyler is a real grassroots drift guy. He loves drift week. He loves you. Know the nitty gritty two hundred horsepower. Like he freaks out is a simpleton. Yeah well no no he. He freaks out so much. Can't tell you how much he freaks out when he sees a stock s. thirteen. I actually do that more than any other car. That's a cleanest. Oh you wheels but yeah so they have their own things that they like. But i i constantly constantly pushed them so hard every single day to improve on their skills and just improve in life. I guess i want them to be elevated in every way like i want them to be the best. I want us to be the best team. And i love what we have as a team because realistically we spend so much time we each other more than are a significant others more than our family right. We just have to be able to match somehow but Yeah i'm just lucky to be able to have guys like them no. I didn't mean to put you on the spot. And i just i i know you respect. Respect is due. And i think it's it's again you're you're part of the team part of the peers and it is. It is a great facet to duplicate yourself and have the have depreciation because again you're you're kind of this unit your this What is what does leafs instagram. Handle again shout out to What does it should. He sixty nine dollars while he has his own instagram. I know but not but his his his instagram cars spicy. Dick sixty nine thank you. It wasn't it wasn't coming. Yeah there's one i wanted to story is that he's like man. I i wanna start instagram. Page for my car. And i just wanted to be so ignorant like i want it to be something like spicy dick sixty nine. I'm like why don't you just make it spicy. And he's like okay all right and you just made it right then and there again at least the beauty of it is it's spicy dick underscore sixty nine because spicy dick sixty nine with no under space was already taken so he had to do that. And it's a thirty six convertible right. Yeah at irwindale the other day. It the the alternator went out or something said unfortunately man you wanna talk about crazy. Man are window. Wow why for you guys. It was empty. My my wife and kids came out and then my kids were literally running around in the paddock off in the hot pits track and nobody was there to say anything because there was no one there and don't take the wrong way for fans that it was kind of nice it was it wasn't that i don't like engaging with fans by no means my saying that it was just really cool. Vip event which it i know again i shake my head. I just i just told you that. Like a white room. You need the color of people in the in the vibrations. And all of that right you need you need that sensory overload. Believe me. I didn't get to do waves. We didn't get to do stomp your feet. We didn't all these fan engagement things that i really enjoyed irwindale but having that time to just talk to drivers and see where their heads out especially given tripleheader weekend it really would have changed the vibe and it feels very stressful because these drivers are pulled in many different ways so their commitments were minimal so actually gave them a time to exhale so it was really interesting and especially given kovic times. We haven't seen each other in a while. We all got tested social distance or mass and or both it. It felt kind of. Because i had my family come and my brother and his kids to so we are where ten ten unit ten unit squad here And again i understand. You're still looking at me angrily. Oh no no no. I'll tell you what the main thing is. I missed the fans. of course. that's how things work with racing because if no one's watching it source what a waste. But with that said the main thing i noticed was that drivers weren't pushing as much as they couldn't you know and and it was very evident with the last finals on sunday. There was only one walmart time right and that's not irwindale. Irwindale is more time after one time after one more time and double one more time and triple time. Sometimes you know like remember the battle between oslo and getting you know for the championship. That was none of that time it was none of that. And i'm i'm such a big fan of drifting. Still you know. I don't get run. The photos were great because it was like the whole christmas slides all that if all my instagram you can see that. I posted a bunch of photos of It look looking like tron right because they set up some christmas light drive-thru kind of thing. And i was shooting in the christmas lights a whole time in which by the way i was hiding because i didn't want the christmas light people to see me in the lights. Messing up in tripping over the crossover so it was like booby-trapped. Yeah it was. Booby traps. So i was like so careful i was like i didn't want on a burma spot. So anytime i would like see irwindale or christmas lights. I would like hide and try to lay down and blend into the christmas lights But i spent olive top. Sixteen there and i was just so bummed that the driving was just. Nah what. I seen you know i it to a couple of things right. It could also be because the cars are so tired. Yeah da an dude thankfully thankfully for a few different drivers that it went friday sunday as opposed to friday pro to proprio saturday sunday. Honestly honestly i think the fans have a lot to do. I not doubting that. I'm just saying it's it is what it is you've got gotta deal with what you're dealt and in the hand you're dealt just the grand -ness of that in general i know it's but hey we're trying to go higher to advise bro. Yeah i like that. You know what i mean. What's what's that was. Tyson is chiming in there. Just little there you go. I don't know that's parker jet thirty minutes. We're okay we're okay. We're already pretty deep. No i know we're we're going for now and What what are you drink because this is beer okay. So this is mother ship with its new belgium. I love new belgium brewery. No i i love fat tire. Big factor Lover but wheat. Beer guy to this is really good. This is perfect for me. I know you don't like wheat beers. I don't and of all things it just makes me feel bloated. Rem physically bloated. Because i'm just a big dude. But i'm glad that i had some we i was i was like what is larry like. I thought you loggers. But that's like easy drinking. But i like i think i'll because my favorite is like really german de beers you like hoegaarden. Yeah who garden and Like i'm going to butcher the name like just the normal. I guess october fest. Connor those from. Yeah yeah yeah. I love those. Because i don't know it's just for me. It's very flavorful and really goes well with the sausages and the potatoes and the tomatoes and the just you know just that whole german vibe. I get that that makes sense Speaking of of international flair will get to that. But i because. I want to talk about got bill. You talked about it right there. The beginning of What we call Would we call it got bill. It was a pit shenanigans oh paddock shining addicts out. Got bill shannon. I will i will are. Are we allowed to talk about something. We could cost. We could do whatever we want. This is my bucket. This is all you have to do is tag it and say like not kid friendly but real quick. What i'm drinking. I'm drinking mind shaker. Milkshake double was sweet. Cherry this is from new glory craft brewery and they are located. it's eight percent or new glory. Beer shadow y'all there in sacramento sac town. The california state capital hazy. Wpa starts for the blended sicher mosaic. Cops shaker mind your eyeball store cold and drink fresh baby alright. Paddock shenanigans me and november. Are we talking about panic. Paddock shenanigans. I got to bring this up my favorite thing. So jared Came to officiate. Our wedding in hawaii right. My favorite thing was how much beer you consumed. I consume barely. Not not as much as you. My favorite thing is anytime. We had any time to do anything it was like. Wow look at this beautiful view after hiking for five miles and then you just hear just opens of year anytime. We have five seconds to sit. Still and i loved it so much. It made me. It reminded me of homer. Simpson one of my favorite episodes when he used to hide. Beer all around the house and he hid beer on the top tank of his toilet. And it's like he is like this is how you know you drink too much or something like that and then you hide. Be around the house. He's like i don't know what you're talking about it he removes the top lid of is a toilet brings out a beer over it and starts drinking it. But that's that's that's a fond memory. I do remember that vividly. I remember lindbergh hiking with us in. Tom's and and i did have a backpack full of beer. Now the best is like. Oh what a beautiful waterfall. Yeah we said was it your lindbergh. That lyric yeah. Oh gosh i just. I just hit me know. Another one was because it was a very intimate wedding. There were a total of fourteen fourteen fourteen and one house in north shore. Thank you so much for that. This actually the wedding band. I wear the wedding band. I wear which is titanium koa wood co would you can only forge it. You can't chop it down. Koa wood is a natural forged. Would in obviously natural would. Is it co or kona. Coa uncle coa. Chona's an island. Oh koa wood and You know you being of chinese lineage. Your mom gifted me an envelope full of as a gift. Not full of money on one say. She's made it rain but she did. She was generous and it was nice. So I need a new wedding band. So i got a titanium wedding band co would down at the market and i got this on your day after your wedding. That's and stephanie. Earrings and parker got a necklace. This pre tyson. So yeah it's a great story. Also another good story. Was that when we when we got there came. We're planning for the wedding cake. Cool will do a son. Sunset wedding and stephanie was like we're north shore so the sunsets on the other side of the whole mountain the island so i think everybody got together. Let's do sunrise so we woke up at the crack prior to dawn every got ready. And you shot your own wedding which is like cool store your wedding. Shoot my own photos. My my buddy actually just Just the other days like. Hey i love how you shout your own wedding. Can you shoot my wedding. I'm like no. I'm good straight on and I put my camera camera with a timer on a chair and we brought our own shares. It was like three houses down not three doors down great band anyways. I'm joking and i do remember. Actually 'cause you know how. I got all that beer shot out to my boy garrett moreira we that was our first stop action that was it was like steph. Fuck pearl harbor. Faulk diamond head. Let's go to the fucking bring theft couple flats of beer pro bono shadow garrett moreira maui brewing company got us all this beer took back probably consumed about eighty percent of it maybe even more but I do remember like all right weddings over. It's like eight. Am and we're looking. We're around that one day right that that one point like near the mormon college and we're looking at where there's like you and i were there and mike burrows like it has coffee any coffee go back to oh ken. She got bill shutout to harlem rest in piece of drift monkey. He invited He invited myself and can go out and we were guests of his and ever harlem his his wife and they have a daughter who's who Over survived by so we If you don't know got. Bill routes coogan is like the. That's that's the track. That is i would say it's like It's just bonkers. It's the craziest on-track shit i've ever seen in any event. Just it's like it's like asteroids flying by you and you're in the money and falcon and yeah ok so my favorite thing about got bill is that you look at the schedule. And it's like got bill your gut build got everything but which got bill. If you don't know means streetcar right right. None of those. None of these things on the schedule mean anything because it was the same fucking thing. It was the same thing it was like. Do you wanna go out in the gut billiards session or got build session like all of it. No and also on top of that. None of more. Streetcars barely any actual. Were all like dual motor like front yoder and rear motor. All will drive like insane. Two thousand and three thousand horsepower. Whatever i just the craziest cars craziest builds and there's a reason why these builds are so crazy. No the reason why. Oh no long winters. Yes that makes it long winters and they have nothing better to do except for build their crazy cars and then when they fall out there like let's go nuts. Yeah we'll because they want to destroy their cars at the event because it's like we built on let's just ruined them so then we can build them again in the wintertime. It was so crazy like these people would shred so hard. I've never seen such hard emrah life until this event and thank goodness. There's got a grid life now here in the us because i need a scratch that each of just seeing dumb. Yeah doing dumb. Things got bill. Grisafe say got grit. Life is safe. I would say because again hyperfocused existed before that grid life. I'm me chris stewart. And and he's just this willy wonka dude and he's like here's this event blah blah blah but bill got got bill got sketchy and it got bad when the dude was at the side of the track and got hitting that. That's the thing that was. That was a bad one. There is some iffy safety things about it and heart of it maybe is because of how it was just got loose. I mean you start pushing and pushing and pushing guy no a guy. Let's say that one of the greatest moments to ever happen in drifting was at got bill and i was in my buddy Seaver e forty six m three. I was following Frederick oslo and mad. Mike would and we were. We were drifting around the track and then it was during a normal dot villier session or whatever and they're just driving like it's driving miss daisy doing normal track day and then here comes for rotor. Mad mike and frederick osborn thousand horsepower eighty-six x. i'm in a e forty-six following them filming it and they just they they see this. Bmw e thirty poor guy. They just part the the c. You know they just designed split with just enough room for this car. And then they i think they both touch him like just like the smallest touch. Like that's one of your most iconic photos is right around that time. Yeah i think it was. Probably a speeders book. I mean it was the same so that was an event before that sorry but it was pretty much the same saddam and being able to see these things like i just couldn't. There's a video of it to right. Luca my buddy luke who who's in the uk. actually very. He was filming and he got crazy. Video of this guy. Just freaking out. He didn't know what to do. You know getting passed on the front side and the backside and just it was the craziest thing and you just don't see crazy things that because it could've gone really bad See where you caged. No oh my gosh see that that. Yeah that's the things where it's like. I've been around the stuff for so long. It's like it's running across a shooting range. And be like i trust him. Oh and the best part is shared. Did you know that we could run across the track anytime anytime. Yeah so. I know the the the the bill was at like twenty. Dial back to like. When can we talk about the outside paddock shenanigans. So patterson it was documented. I was thinner. I look you know i was younger. Obviously we both were. But we're like we need to forage for food we were like to america cruising around. That's another thing. How the how the hell i was going to say. How the fuck fuck do these people survive. Because they just drink alcohol. They don't eat at all. There was remember mayonnaise on hot dogs. Don't let me tell you guys picture this okay. It is days four days of driving camping concerts all of that. Nobody eat so you know what they do. They just drink right. So then jared and i as americans. We're starving we were literally starving. We couldn't even we had money We invite funding. We couldn't even find anything at all the hip hop. I even had my rental car. We couldn't even go anywhere to get. Everything was closed right so you know what we did was. We did this fun. Adventure weird jared and i would go to camps and we would try to make friends with a friend everybody to try to steal their food. Do tell me about your car. O is that food you can. I can i can i. Can i get a tube shape meet. I'd love some meat red. I only go mayonnaise super sauce. Sign me. They had american sauce ozone americans american sauce which was basically thousand island and then and then you blend in the insanity of you have one hour of darkness right because because you're there in the sun. The sun is setting at eleven pm oh and it rises at one thirty am so and then in the morning people are like people are past racecars. Like looks like heaven's gate book there's bodies everywhere cars are over there and interesting enough. I did stay hotel. i. I'd i never camped at my first year yeah. I'm out us didn't do that. Oh yeah because you were there with the doctor. Chong medicine yeah And and need for speed. And all that so i went over to put me in hotel which is really nice but ken gucci and i are leaving with over and again. It's probably like ten ten pm at night but it's bright as day. It's like it's five pm until the afternoon. Like son right so we look over and this guy and girl are completely getting down on like a on on the on the grassy bank. And they're not actually they're not actually having sex but there's some there's some promiscuous eighty going down just plain as day right. There are some sexual activity activity. Yeah can can wasn't a clear on so it was an rated x. rated it was. Yes yes yeah it was. It was an and we're like well. What got bill and my right crazy. Yeah crazy and then the best part is my favorite part of this story and we love dogging story remind me i don't know what he's you drove just like maybe twenty more feet and like kids. Were getting dropped off. Oh yes these kids because you have to remember is music it's driving. It's so many things that's part of got valid. Because there's a concert right age you go to the state. Yeah the kids come and they want to check out the concert. So it's these mom and dad's dropping off their young ones to go to the concert. It's like have a wonderful time. Meanwhile twenty feet down the road on grass. There's just That south park's right. It's bad yeah it was it was it was it was bad it was good. It was I love that. You have to remind me of some of the things that i told you. I love this story. Say this story. What's the story. We have so many stories. Because it's so crazy like i have. I'm so lucky with this job. I have friends all over the world. You know from this job. I've been able to travel to fifty countries now. Wow so with that said. I have friends from all walks of life all of the world And it's just so crazy. That pretty much now anywhere that i travel to that. I need to go to four cars car culture. I can hang out with somebody and it's like we just we just We never left. Yo it's like we were just hanging out the davis barbie with you and i we've lived in different states since we've known each other but i've seen you so many times so often i mean i think i just surpassed my hundredth formula drift event. Yeah right. I know what. I'm at a hundred five or whatever. Yeah but i love it when when people say like oh man. This is crazy. Like for finished my first season of jeff. I'm like event number eight or whatever. I'm mike that's cute. I i literally have a hundred more than. It's not to discourage like any photographers. Are any anybody announcers or whatever it's like yeah man like i don't know if you heard my story about I want to think about your favorite place that you've been in favorite place. You wanna go that you haven't or you'd like to go back to think about those while i'm telling you the story. I told this story to to ryan agent. I talked about on the livestream. Red bull global rallycross north carolina event was super muddy and got rained out. I think lewis is there was there. Were you there. The when they got where they couldn't they had to shut down. Because the ambulances couldn't drive onto the you go. I was there okay. Couldn't remember now. I know louis wants a lotta those as opposed to you. Say 'cause he likes rally more than you. Yeah so so We're we're just hanging out in the catering ten. This kid comes over to me says So that was like what five years ago. I don't even know but i i remember that and i think about that event all the time because of the the Hilo or what are those called the the huge troop transports and then the the ones with the dual blades. We're talking about the ospreys the phrase and also the huge helicopter like that you can put a tank in and this is a massive now. So this kid. I'm sitting there eating and he comes over after us respectful and says hey My name's tanner and I've been going to formula drift. My parents have been taking me since i was a baby. He's been every formula drift since two thousand four as a child as as as a baby he was named after. Tanner faust lot. Yes so he's yes. He's been to every sin every single since two thousand four form the drift event. That's i mean that's seven layers. Yeah so he says hey man. I've been listening since i was a kid. Been going irwindale because he traveled with the safety crew that resides all over the country. Okay with the safety track crew spiring. I'm an aspiring firemen. I'm entertaining. I hurt my knee right now. But i'm gonna get back get good. I'll be right. Guess who walks up to me at irwindale. Twenty twenty four drift kid walks. He's got a monster head on said he says and he walks up to me. I was like tanner he says. Yep i said dude i tell people your story all the time and not publicly but i've told people independently and i talked about on a livestream because i told her i said see that kid down there the firemen because he was the first response firemen at irwindale this year. It was in between his halftime break. I met with my family. Comes up to me and said tanner rice. Yep said hey man you fireman is again man over here. I'm trying to get onto riverside. I'm trying to do this trying to that right on man. That's awesome dude. He hit me up. So named after. Tanner faust has been going to form the gist since he was a baby. You know all these things. I love that. That's that's that's why we do what we do. And and you don't think about those things who listen to this and inspired or intrigued or an eagerness or maybe a little shy or awkward or not comfortable in their own spot You know all of those things that equate to opportunity and you just got fucking do it. Yeah that's the thing and that's why don't store. Yeah that's why the education portion of what i do now Especially with cannon is so important. Because i have nothing to hide right. I have nothing except your settings. Yeah except for my setting eighty fan now legitimately. I have nothing to hide. And i try. I try so hard. I try my best to help people because you know as as a young asian kid growing up in southern california. I was so introverted. Never made any friends. I was just so quiet. And i was just never so outgoing. Look at you now until you know. I found something that i love and something that is so passionate about right with that said Education portion of what. I'm doing i feel like is so important because just the baby steps of showing somebody or at least doing the hard part for somebody which honestly is getting the access right getting access to places like leno's garage magnus walkers garage the whole thermal club track or whatever. There's just so many endless. If the museum they shut that down for me you know what who gets that kind of access. I'm so lucky to be able to work with these people that are just as passionate about sharing this thing. That is car culture. Would that said. I'm just trying my best to do. My part i guess to keep it alive because it potentially could be threatened but you know the way things are going now. It's as big as it's ever been an it's just it's it's insane. I mean you look at just normal media right you go into walmart. You look at the hot wheels shelves when in history. Can you go to walmart and get a porsche. Nine six two. I just did that. I just i was in utah. I was insane georgia all places. I went to walmart because we needed to get some stuff when we went camping. And just decided to go through the hot weasel and they had nine sixties. They had mika cars at walmart really legitimately. They had all of these things that i'd like. This is why coco car cultures amazing. Oh and just preview. i think i'm gonna have my hot wheel car o. That's something that i'm working on right now said about yeah orange bank. Now it'll be upset but it'll be cool. I'm so excited for where i'm at and where you're at in in. Its i mean. Say me i. I was really weird. No no because. I'm thinking about the reflection of that. You've put on me in the you know the impressions that you put on me because i i don't wanna say your hard worker because that's just easy I think that comes innate. And you know that hard work needs to be done but the biggest thing for me is just being honest. I think you're an honest worker that asks questions and in his eager that i keep going back to that word for for whatever reason is honestly just showing up on time And just being as easy to work with as possible being friendly. Because i'm so lucky. I think it's the same way with you. So many people that we work with in the industry where good good friends with right. There's just not that many people that are piece of shit. Yeah because they don't last long. No you're you're going gonna get your by everybody from all sides you just don't last long ago and the just get weeded out and i can just think on the off the top of my head you know is just these people that i think to myself like. How could they even be in the industry but guess what one two years later they're gone. He's you know baby. Yeah people like yourself. People like rent. Sage people like von junior airing all these people that we are to win such good friends with. There's a reason why they're there. Because we're we're all happy family you know. We love working with each other. And sometimes you hate your brothers and sometimes you you know you hit your sisters but at the end of the day like it's my job to pick on them and and you know that's that's the relationship we have right where it's like von and i thought forsberg and have argued we. We started off tumultuously. We hate and look at this and let it go and then and then guess what i think. The first time we really became was when i came over. I was with my buddy joshua. Hereon that's right from interesting fund hobo. Right yeah. I went to chris. Forsberg's house and then You were cuddling caesar The little dog are ibiza. That little dog that was farting in your face. So jack russell yeah and You were holding him and cuddling with them and he just kept farting and then it was. Just yeah just that. That's that's what really sealed in view. I look like like yeah. That's that's my dude. That's that's my duty dog farts and he just sucks it up. It's like a dogfight. I suck it up. I think we just kind of like hit it off because we realize we have a lot in common we just we definitely come from different walks of life but the point is that we have a lot to contribute to each other and especially with forsberg there and i don't even know who else was there but i i just just remember it being like a good time and i i was thinking to myself like. Wow these guys are really genuine The they're just like me they're into cars. They're into this culture and just into cool things because everybody enjoys roadrunners man. So i did ask you and set you up for it. So you've got to answer it and we're wrapping up because dinner's getting ready here favourite place you've ever visited. I always have to go back to japan. Because it's like a different world It just operates early. And i absolutely love it it. I can only take certain amount of time there. I don't think i could live there. I i know. I can spend some time there but i just can't. I wouldn't be able to get used to it and that's okay. I like that. Because it's just the way it operates. How small everything is and and how regulated everything is but but you know you got somebody like me. That's like the brash american. Like all park anywhere. I'll shoot anywhere. I want like all drive backwards. Still me yeah. You don't tell me what to do. I absolutely love shooting there. I love creating content so this year we were so lucky before the shut down to shoot a whole series a fifteen episode series in japan zone with our focus that was on autofocus with our friends at kilby suspension at yokohama tire. They really stopped up to kind of let us do whatever we want. So you know shoot this whole series fifteen episodes and like very substantial twenty to forty five minute episodes of just doing cool stuff you know. And in a way i tried my best to kind of recreate Like hot version. Best motoring in my way you know in japan and and that's kind of what happened all right best place you want to go back to. I guess japan would be that. I mean like you've been there you wanna go back japan. You're ready to go Yeah i also do want to explore the middle east or i want to explore africa. Mara i want to explore. I've never been to south america surprisingly I i definitely want to shoot there. And with that said like i would love to shoot dakar. I think that's probably one event. That's kind of alluded me in a way Because i'm i'm really begin to off road racing. I still consider myself a new. 'b with off road racing. Even though i've been shooting for almost ten years it's not like my. I love you know but with that said i am so ingrained in it now like i love it so much. I so lucky to be able to follow a lot of the monster. Energy athletes like bj baldwin. Casey curry with that said i think the next step for me is to be able to follow dakar. Casey one last year saw two americans one last year right motorcycle and And utd and it's not like he wanna youtube class or anything. Just that's it that's just it just. Doesn't you know the the class system is not the same thing when you go out and you one. He just dominated an super cool to see What's your question. Sorry to now that. That's that's pretty much it last question. You're going in your car right now. Every you know it's almost the end of the year here. Because i'm posting shit might be out tomorrow I have no schedule anymore. Nobody has any schedule except a little bit You go on your car. He's gotten spotify playlist on what they listen to most. But let me ask you you go on your car. You hit play on your poor show being or whatever vehicle. What's what's the first thing that plays music wise. I'm it's can be so boring i definitely more recently. I've been more into eighties I- i love listening to eighty s Just pop hits wham duran duran. Are we talking like hall and oates more holland. Kenny loggins molten more. Like because i know it just has to have a certain cynthia feeling to work so i really like listening to eighties and surprisingly billie eilish is really really i love. Billy is such a good singer. I just like her a voice and he's unapologetic to that. That's kind of the thing that i really like. I i like. I like that a lot. I'm nineties rock guy too right so i listened to a lotta foo fighters and just kind of that era. Because i grew up around that green day and all of that. So i'm not really big into new or music other than a certain things. I guess The weekend is is something something that i listen to a lot. It's just one of those things where it's like. I just pick and choose. And i just wanna keep playing the same things because it's kind of what i like. I like Dinner's ready. I appreciate you. I love you so much. I really know that You are just a contribution to the world not just motor sports but We're not defined by cars not defined by photographs or not defined by just what we do. But it's how you do it. And i think he'd use such a great job. So thank you for your time. Now i really appreciate what you do to you know i. We were just talking about this other day right. I brought it up. There's just so many stories man. I know we're just talking about this other day. But i was to my buddy danny george who used to be a formula driver and i'm like who else could announce who else is there in this realm action sports. That has a presence. You know because you are just doing your thing but a lot of times if you think about the conic announcers right across sports. There's just certain ones that stand out. And there's certain ones that i have in my mind and there are certain ones that i'll just. I wouldn't even know their name. If i could even think about it. You know and we're just lucky to have you as announcer will let them to your humor. Aneurysms have rubbed off onto so many people including myself. And i get super embarrassed when i say them in front of you. Let me help what. I don't know like when i say send it in front of you know. It's funny when people say yeah especially in the most world like tyson. My six year old says it. Yeah fourteen year old says it. I just that's the takeaway. I think i get a lot from people that i meet. Now is what they've what they've rubbed off on me you know and and i just can't get out of it you know it just naturally happens and i appreciate oh to like i said thank you. And you're you're a great product of your environment and you surround yourself with the right people and you're gonna produce good stuff if it if it's from again photography world automotive but life love design all that you are truly runner so again because everybody enjoys roadrunners. You've traveled all over the world. We're going to travel and cars. We're gonna travel hopefully soon and we'll get out there. Thank you so much. Thank you love you bro.

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Episode #1839 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

32:15 min | 7 months ago

Episode #1839 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Guys it's fill Henry for the world. Famous film show website are backstage pass. That is the subscription or website. Now, you may think to yourself well, why do I need that? Here's why forty thousand plus hours of top quality the top quality of audio of our show going back over twenty years. So if you want to hear the most original radio show in the history of man on this planet, that's one thing if you want to hear it have top quality recordings of that show be able to download that show and trade it with your friends. You can do that with a backstage pass the world famous fill ratio, and it is very reasonable baby. It comes under ten bucks a month if you WANNA get the monthly or if you'd like to go one. It's like less than seven dollars a year isn't that I believe that's right. Yes right. So it's a very, you could ask me that too. All right I've just any one of you guys. Yes through. I believe is okay. So we're all agreed it's under seven dollars a month for a one year subscription the world famous Phil Hendrie Shows I. would suggest I would encourage you if I could order you to get a backstage pass a subscription to the world famous Phil Hendrie show. There's nothing like it anywhere on the Internet. In fact, it's the greatest value online other than porn world, famous fillon ratio website and the backstage pass. Yeah. A. Very, pleasant day to you welcome to Alcott. The next step. I am Dr L. Cuts and we welcome you here to demaree and one Palmer York. We haven't joined you in quite some time. We have been involved in a great many personal as well as public issues and tasks on behalf of the next step is what is my own personal growth as a link in? The next step Welcome Ladies and gentlemen. I am here at our radio studio in one Pony York. And L. Cut. The next step is you know is a new vision a new way forward for man on this planet to shed one's ego to live without ego to live without consciousness of individual self and immerse oneself in the larger ego. The larger consciousness of life is life Panorama. Pandemic, which is the word that we hear. So many people using these days as well. They might because we should be mindful of those things that threaten us but at the same time be mindful of how the expense of life lays before us. With. Alcott the next step. L. Cut the next step. From. Marion Dr L. CUT Thank. You let Griffin into welcome to Elkhart, the next step we are grateful to the Phil Hendrie show for providing this. Place for us this platform for us on his website Philon show dot com. We are grateful for all of the cottons those who are novitiate and initiate. As, well as priest our overlords and of course. Our far-flung overseers those who move among US unseen. I wanted to go into the al Qaeda today and described to you some of the terms, the terminologies. Some of the tags, some of the references and reference points that we use. In elkhart the next step. and. Then we'd like to also give you a little bit of history. Of Elkhart so that when you are. Considering becoming part of our larger community. That, you'll be well informed and Tayo will make a decision that is we think the best one possible for you. Think, he'll call it is for everyone but everyone L. Cut. While I are L. Kuttan. M. I L. Coulda. And while you are Elkana or you L. Cut. These are questions that will be made clear to you as time progresses. At one time we were out on the. Colli redeem very blessed here in L. called the next step we have properties in big Sur California as well as it. In Colli Hawaii as well as here at one paw university at over demaree INQUI-. I was Gogo at the redeemer and Kawhi I went Globo go Bo is going Hobo. In l. cut the next step. This is went one to shed one's ego and again, this is the goal of Alcott the next step shed your ego so that you are stripped your lean and clean that is your fully spread. For Life to then consume and subsume you. And recognize your the purity of your essence so that there is no ego blocking life's energy. and. So when you are Globo or going Hobo you shed ego. In this case, you dress yourself in rags, you box cars and you drink cooking wine. l., got the next. Step. Go. No it's all done in Hawaii. Where there are previous few bucks cars as a result, you lay in the grass at laugh. And that is the beauty of Globo in Hawaii you're expected to H-, boxcars. But where are they? There are none very few and if there are boxcars in Hawaii, they only travel from one end of the island whatever island you may be on to the next. and. So you finally. Jump. Off of whatever boxcar you're on that went about two feet of stopped and the new lay in the grass. And you give it a full alcott belly up that is. Popular. ELCOCK put down. From the Al Qaeda that said to anyone working on something that looks too complicated for them is the following. It matters not how the hamster signs lease. ELKHART shutdowns. What we say we put people down. We don't mean to be cruel, but we're simply doing is stepping out any vestige of go that we see. When someone's ego rises up or does a full rise up and stick out? More if you will. Rise up and. Then, say, well, it matters not how the hamster signs lease. They are formally put down. They are formerly chastised and they slink back into the darkness of their L. Car Unit. When we say what does L. Car. One is. In possession of the devil but is not possessed by the devil. It is one is not controlled by the devil, but one is in control of one's own Deville. The devil is not fully deviled. The devil is devil and the Deville if one is Deville. Then one is almost luxuriating evil but is not consumed by it as in the Cadillac Deville. From the Okada a phrase that means one is in pain and it can be spiritual or physical pain. Half off this week. At food, bar. Another phrase, the Cada that means well meaning but dumb is. They're going to Irwindale. L. Caught the next step. There was no such thing as an official New Year. Your New Year maybe be something different from mine. So we'll simply say and it's important in Elkhart. How things are said Kabbah. That's right. See Aba Kabbah. It needs to be full-throated joyful and said once on any day, but you feel refreshed. At one time when heave nor elcock took to his bed with. His son Beaver. Assumed leadership, duties. beaver was a layabout in a drunk who officially rechristened renewal as clean as a babies as. Heave no resumed leadership and reaffirmed the term renewal. L., ever clean is a baby's stuck with younger members they insisted on using it. ebner was pragmatic. Visited beaver. Now at these states psycho unit where he was detoxing asked for a solution. But beef nurse drooling reference to the founder as heave drove Gary into a rage. As they keep elcock delivered, the accordion panics mind wipe, which is a beating using his cane and a heavy glass ashtray. beaver fell backwards onto a map of couple San Lucas. Planned destination once he left the ESPN. havener legally blind misread the map as Kaba. Seeing A. These are words for the al Qaeda. So say the Al Qaeda. L., cut the next step from what Paul University will continue. Would you like to be a member of L. cut the next step come to the next orientation in your town simply call us at one Paul University or email. We'll be happy to send you a list of meeting sites as well as times and placement. Meet Dr at Alcott find out your personal worth see if you're catastrophic and if your mind melds perfectly. Caught the next step it could be the next step for you send away for the Next Steps Mind Wipe Literature. Learning the ways forward after heroin. Senate to L. cut the next step WAMPOA. Back to cut the next step I'm Dr Elcock. Reading from the al-Qaeda this morning. Terms and terminologies. Areas of interest. As well as peculiarities in the language of Elkhart. One says they are going in. They are reporting themselves for blaspheming they'll cut. are going in for a mind wipe, which is re education with regular beatings. An example of mind wipe was a number of months ago I told a joke about Phil Hendrie being thirty but looking for. All jokes blaspheme L. caught the next step and H. E. Heaved Norelco. Alcott. Once told a joke and no one left. He was all wrong after that. By that I mean his mind had gone. My attempted, you're saying that I was black pants scared at the idea of Mr Henry being years of age and looking for fell flat and induced phone calls to the Redeemer Arch until well after midnight. No worries I was leveled thoroughly to the point where I talked with a list for three weeks. Lighting are astro gliding and Elko. Is What we call people being the figurative lubricant that slide you up into heavens pipe. What you might call back door. Attempt to con or otherwise fool the universe into thinking one way when things are actually It's an impossibility, but people are constantly gliding. Astro gliding. Going up heaven's pipe or what you might call the back door is neither positive nor negative, but it can be either effective or ineffective. However using yourself slathered Dallas. Lubricant. To go up heave Nur's pipe or that is the back end of the universe. Is L. Car. Requiring of mind wipe. And? No. Good. L. Cut the next step. The vampire. Don't cut the next step. We have no mythology that encompasses vampires. While the are buckle can be compared to the IMF or the Elf in Germano Irish literature. The closest that we have to vampires our religion I suppose would be smaller younger humans what you call children. L. Caught the next step. We believe that earthquakes, typhoons and meteor strikes are actually signs if you will that there is not enough homosexuality fornication or drug use on earth. The Universe is telling us to either get it together or die in a trailer. Is that wonderful good news from Elkhart. All will be well within the gleam. The Gleam is another word for house in Elkhart the next step. Mike West of course is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That coincides with rising or as we say in Elkhart the next step of full-float to overlord status or an cut the next step uploading. So. Better. said in elkhart speak. I would say. Like West is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That coincides with rising or as we say l. cut the next step a full float to overlord status. Or an L. cut the next step uploading. Better set an ELKHART speak. My quest is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. That would coincide with rising or as we say, an L. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status. Mike West is to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain that coincides with rising or as we say, an l. cut the next step of full-float to overlord status or in cut the next step uploading. Better said elk speak I would say that it happens to coincide with full float to uploading. I was reminded by overlord. Casper, Unger that my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And another six months was added after I lost my temper with Gloria, grover a tool shed one night and I screamed. I was reminded by overlord Casper hunger that my sex and gambling relapse pushed back by float date a full year. And another six months was tacked on after I lost my temper with Gloria Grover of the tool shed one night and I screamed and forgive me I screamed the phrase fuck this Henhouse Shit. Something, I'll forever be ashamed of. ood. Credibility as a spiritual leader teacher takes a massive hit a cup lunch and an assault on the region whenever I follow back a TV comedy writer on twitter. Another earth step that's what we and L. cut the next step coal earthquakes they are earth steps ego dowse were a planet coat. Shit, and quote. We in caught the earth steps is laughable. We continue eating drinking foreign accounting. What have you we never ever a mark on it or acknowledged earthquakes don't exist. Join Twitter. L. Cut the next The presentation of thing is Phil Hendrie show and Phil Hendrie show dot COM executive by Phil for the upper incorporating all rights reserved. Cast one. This is Dr at L. Cut I realized this bill very short l. cut the next step. And so outplayed again. A very pleasant today to you welcome to. The next step. I am doctor. And we welcome you here to our redeemer and one Poem York. We haven't joined you in quite some time. We have been involved in a great many personal as well as public issues and tasks on behalf of caught. The next step is one of my own personal growth as a priest in Elkhart the next step. Welcome Ladies and gentlemen I am here at our radio studio in One New York. And L. Cut. The next step is you know is a new vision a new way forward for man on this. To shed one's ego to live without ego to live without consciousness of individual self and immerse oneself in the larger ego, the larger consciousness of life that is life Panorama not pandemic, which is the word that we hear. So many people using these days as well. They might because we should be mindful of those things that threaten us but at the same time be mindful of how the expense of life. Lays before us. With L. cut the next step. The next step. From upon your. Doctor at Elkhart. Thank you let Griffin Mental. Welcome to Elkhart. The next step we are grateful to the Phil Hendrie show for providing this. Place for us this platform for us on his website philosophy show dot. com. We are grateful for all of the all cottons, those who are novitiate and initiate. As well as all of our elise, our overlords, and of course. Our far-flung overseers, those who move among US unseen. Go into the LCA today and describe to you some of the terms, the terminologies. Some of the tags, some of the references and reference points that we use. In elkhart the next step. And then we'd like to also give you a little bit of history. Of Elkhart so that when you are. Considering becoming a part of our larger community. That you'll be well informed and jail will make a decision that is we think the best one possible for you. We think he'll call it is for everyone but his everyone elkhart. While I, R. L. Kuttan M. I L. Cuda. And while you are Elkana or you elko. 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And that is the beauty of Gopro, in Hawaii you're expected to a boxcars. But where are they? There are none very few and if there are box cars in, Hawaii, they only travel from one end of the island whatever island you may be on to the next. And so you finally. Jump off of whatever boxcar you are on. That went about two feet of then stopped in, you lay on the grass. And you give it a full elk. Belly up. That is A popular L. cut put down from the Al Qaeda that is said to anyone working on something that looks too complicated for them is the following. It matters not how the hamster signs lease. L. Cut put-downs. What we say we put people down. We don't mean to be cruel. What we're simply doing is stepping out any vestige of ego that we see. So, when someone's ego rises up or does a full rise up and stick out. More if you will. RISE UP AND POOCH OUT. We then say whale matters not how the hamster signs lease. They are formally put down. Forty chastised and they slink back into the darkness of their car. CARE. Unit. When we say what is L. Car? One is. In possession of the devil but is not possessed by the devil. One. Is Not controlled by the devil, but one is in control of one's own Deville. The devil is not fully deviled. Unless the devil is devil and the devil if one is Deville. Then one is almost luxuriating an evil but is not consumed by as in the Cadillac Deville. From the Okada a phrase that means one is in pain can be spiritual or physical pain. Half off this week. At Food Barton. Another phrase from the Al Qaeda that means meaning but dumb is. They're going to Irwindale. L. Caught the next step. There was no such thing as an official New Year. Your New Year. Maybe something different from mine. So we'll simply say it's important in L. caught how things are said Kabbah? That's right. See Aba Kabbah. It needs to be full-throated joyful and said once on any day, but you feel refreshed. At one time when he elcock took to his bed with. His Son Beaver Assumed leadership duties. Beef was a layabout in a drunk WHO OFFICIALLY RE CHRISTENED RENEWAL AS CLEAN AS BABIES as. Resumed leadership and reaffirmed the term renewal. However clean is a baby's has stuck with younger members they insisted on using it. He was pragmatic. Visited beef ner. Now at St Psycho Unit where he was detoxing and asked for a solution. But beef nurse drooling reference to founder as heave drove heave Nari into arrange. As the evening elcock delivered the Qodian Dope Attics Mind Wipe, which is a beating using his cane and a heavy glass ashtray. beaver fell backwards on a map of Kabo San Lucas. Planned destination once he left the ESPN. havener legally blind misread the map as Kaba. Aba, these are words from the Al Qaeda. So say the al-Qaeda. L. Cut the next step from what university will continue. Would you like to be a member of Elkhart? The next step come to the next orientation in your town simply call us at one Paul University or email we'll be happy to send you a list of meeting sites as well as times and placement. Meet Dr Ed Alcott, find out your personal worth see if you're catastrophic and if your mind melds perfectly. L. Cut the next step. It could be the next step for you send away for L. cut the next steps mind wipe, literature. Learning the ways forward after heroin. Senate to L. cut the. Next step one PA NEW YORK. Back to an extent, I'm Dr. elcock. Reading from the al-Qaeda this morning. Terms and terminologies. Areas. Of interest. As well as peculiarities in the language of Elkhart. When one says they are going in They are reporting themselves for blaspheming they'll cut. They're going in for a mind wipe, which is re education with regular beatings. An example of mind wipe was a number of months ago I told a joke about Phil Hendrie being thirty but looking for. 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Using yourself slathered down with lubricant to go up heave nurse pipe or that is the back end of the universe. Is L. Car. REQUIRING OF MIND WIPE And No. Good. Elcock the next. Step. The vampire. L. Cut the next step. We have no mythology that encompasses vampires. While the are buckle can be compared to the IMP or the Elf in Germano is literature. The closest that we have to vampires our religion I suppose would be smaller younger humans what you call children. L. Caught the next step we believe that earthquakes, typhoons and meteor strikes are actually signs if you will that there is not enough homosexuality fornication or drug use on earth. The Universe is telling us to either get it together or die in a trailer. Is that wonderful Good news from Elkins. All will be well within the gleam. The Gleam is another word for house in L., cut the next step. Of course to achieve further enlightenment and ego drain. 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Episode 49: Danny Stockman (RWP)

The Down and Dirty Show

35:21 min | 2 years ago

Episode 49: Danny Stockman (RWP)

"Hello. And welcome to another episode of the racing writers podcast episode forty nine to all those who are returning listeners. Welcome back, and to all those who may just be discovering us, welcome. And I hope you will go and enjoy the archives that a lot here on the racing writers podcast. Like, I said episodes forty nine pretty cool. So today's episode is one that I have been waiting to air kind of the right time. And Daniel Hamrick, of course is making a splash Knicks entity series. So this conversation is with his crew chiefs, Danny Stockman, so Danny, of course, is a guiding the ship of the number twenty one Richards racing team and he's been around NASCAR. For quite a while has worked with many recognizable names in the sport. People like Brendon gone. The Dylan brothers Ron corner day. But Danny has a really fascinating and fun backstory himself. He's a third generation racer. He has worked his way up from sweeping floors to being cruelty. And it's a fascinating story. That's what I love to do here on the podcast. So I'm really excited to air this some fun nuggets that I want you to listen for and there's a lot here. But hear hear some of the ones I really want to listen for in this episode. So Danny is going to tell you about how when he was younger. He would study and quiz himself from racing textbook. So learning about race cars camber chassis, all that I got a real good kick out of that. He's also going to tell you about how he had a certain milestone that he wanted to hit of when he wanted to crew chief yet a certain age he wanted to be twenty seven and be a occurred chief and spoiler alert. He did. And another thing in here that I found really interesting was his brutal honesty when it came to Richard Childress racing particularly the Cup series side the Cup teams, and Danny will tell you that he wants to be part of having Richard Childress racing essentially relevant in the Cup series. Have the media talk about them? Again. He used some really. Blunt terms that I'm gonna wait for you to to listen to to hear for yourself about their performance and how they need to turn things around. So so they'll run some of those are some of the fun things and one of the other things that's kind kinda the whole a strong point of this podcast. I guess you could say is Danny talking about his current driver. Daniel Hamrick who's going to the Cup series next year? But this is their second year working together in the expanding series. And you're gonna hear Danny talk about how intelligent and involve Daniel is with his race team for those who don't know a lot about Daniel he has grown up racer, obviously. But he's very hands on racer. He's had to work on a lot of his own stuff. He knows his way around race car, and that kind of translate to translates to a very high racing I IQ, and it's very interesting to hear a crew chief talk about that in their driver. And kinda how that makes for an interesting dynamic within race team. So really really fun episode very insightful from Danny stockmen. He was a lot of fun to to talk to. We had a great time at ritual racing doing a doing this chat during this podcast. So I'm glad it's time to air it, of course, if you have any feedback, and if you wanna tell me what you enjoyed about the podcast, please do you can find me on Twitter at Kelly Crandall. I was really happy that there was a lot of feedback and a lot of really cool things to say. But from you guys after last week's episode was Sheldon creed. He's another one that has such a great racing background. And it was a lot of fun to get to know him and GM just announced that a Sheldon will be full time with them next year in the truck series. So that's awesome, very timely there. So please go back to the archives and listen to that episode because you're going to hear his name a lot next year. This time next week, we will have three brand new NASCAR champions and very excited about that. I'm sure everybody is. And I bring that up because. As we go into next week's episode my plan, and we all know on this podcast things can change. My plan is to hopefully have a reaction episode after homestead weekend to serve as next week's podcast. So that's the plan to hopefully, have some some reaction to a four championship weekend. Very excited to get down there. Home said a wonderful track. It puts out great racing. And I'm sure it's going to be another great weekend before I get too long winded here, which I am sure I already am. Let me wrap it up there. Let's get to the episode. Thanks again to Richard Childress racing Kayla Darrow. Everybody over there who made this possible. And for putting Danny together in the same room. We can get this done. So fun episode. I hope you enjoy it. Here is episode fourteen. Nine of the racing writers podcast with Danny Stockman. All right. Thank you Danny for welcoming me into your office on Tuesday. What's Tuesday like around the shop after a race weekend. Tuesday's actually pretty quiet Tuesday's kind of were get to really dig into the next week or the upcoming week. Mondays are very very busy trying to debrief from the past weekend in the mornings and a long with making sure all the parts and pieces components and everything are right on the primary car for the next weekend. And then, you know, obviously, get with the people and the upcoming thrash. That's coming dismissed sure that we have everything in line and everything I would say that's more of a later day Monday than than Tuesday morning is just definitely that's kind of my time to really dig into what I want to achieve this far as the issues we're going to fight for the following weekend. Some of the, you know, making sure we got enough break cooling, making sure we have all the little details finalized. So in the afternoon, I can make sure that the guys know exactly what we need and they're just head down digging. So Tuesday's more look ahead day. I would assume that Monday is your last kind of look back at the weekend that was type thing before moving on. Exactly exactly, you know, like some of like tomorrow might be working on some of the next week a little bit. It but today is solely really this weekend. That's coming up. I would say so not a whole lot of looking back. It's all about going forward. Exactly, exactly. Which which I don't really like to to look back. We have to from a company standpoint. So that when we go back to that racetrack again to make sure that we don't miss any details, but it's mainly Tuesday's or just focused on what's ahead. So I wanna give you a chance again to kind of tell your story and background because again the little bit that I know of it seems really really fascinating. But I wanna touch on twenty one team stuff. I so. I've heard Daniel Hamrick say in the past he knew you were his guy. I'm curious did you to have a previous relationship or know each other in any way before you started critiquing for so basically, no we knew each other Austin and tie and Mike and Tina Dylan had Daniel around as a child early teen growing up hanging out with them at their house, going -cations, go kart race and ban lera rates and all that stuff, and I always knew Daniel Hamrick. So when I came to work at our CR two thousand ten to be Austin's crew chief Austin always had a lot of respect. And always bragged about how good Daniel Hamrick was, and I always knew that one day that Austin wanted Daniel to be at our CR, he always says if he could if he ever made it to the big leagues that he would do whatever he he had to do to help. Daniel make it to the next step. And it's pretty funny to see that that it's all coming full circle. And pretty awesome. Really? So so me working with Austin gave me that connection to Daniel. He would be around. I didn't really he wasn't. I didn't really know him. I knew just from Austin no of him than no no of him, you know, high hyphen all that stuff. And then I remember when I was on the twenty seven Cup team there in two thousand sixteen for the last half of the season. I started hearing rumblings of Daniel coming here that got me really excited. I wanted to I like working with a young guys and. I knew that that opportunity might be available Dylan, Mike Dillon approach me and asked me if I wanted to work with Daniel like really excited about it. Heck, yeah. And I think Daniel felt the same about me. And it's just been it's been good. It's been a really fun fun year. Two thousand eighteen is definitely been been very fun two thousand seventeen you know, with a rookie their first year, you have high expectations, and you you really feel like you should be doing better than you than you are. But when you look back, it was actually, okay or performance was okay. So and this year two thousand eighteen is definitely been been awesome. We we definitely wish we would we would have, you know, five or six or even eight wins by now, I feel like we've had really fast cars and we've been in contention every week, and we're we're not missing a beat. We just haven't took the checkered flag yet. But we're there, and then guys know they got they got a race us to beat us. And and. It's fun and Daniels doing really good job. And just got to keep this team motivated and keep doing what we're doing to get to homestead everything that you heard from Austin along the way and everybody else about Daniel hasn't matched up with what you have now seen from him as driver working with him in terms of his talent. And maybe what he can bring to a raise team feedback stuff like that. Yeah. Most definitely he's Daniel is not just a driver. He's actually very smart with the car side of things, and he has very good feel of the car. He he works. It's like people ask me questions about him all the time and the best the best thing that I can or the best way. I can explain it is you have some drivers that they show up. They just get in the car. They're short five minutes before practice. They get in the car. Go do their Daniel is here. He's working on the. He's working on everything globally. Right. Like now that he's got a Cup. Right. He's going to be working on that too. He's going to be putting himself in situations to make sure that he's they're going to get the most out of that situation. And he's helping me my engineer my team make the right decisions is just not me. And my engineer. It's he's involved. He's involved in what we got going on. He's involved in decisions that I'm making his racing. I q seems very very high. Exactly. And that's that's where you can. You can actually utilize him because his racing. I q is high or some guys just don't really have a clue he does. And it makes it it makes it fun. It makes it easier when you have more brains than more smarts on board to to make decisions. Just I just feel like it's just better. So you mentioned two thousand eighteen of course, wanting more wins, but it has been a very decent year. Again, continue for the championship. When I looked at the numbers the numbers this year alrea. Eighty four or five times not times. But but better than the overall numbers from two thousand seventeen so the team as a whole you Daniel everybody on this group. What's been the difference? Has it been just experience or how has the progression gone to get to where it's been? Of course, you want it, of course to be better the next year. But what's been that that both like, I think it's definitely a a little bit of everything we made our cars better this winter we had some we made some bad decisions as a company over the last few years. I feel like we we built better cars we put a team together. I got my longtime engineer back that I had with Andrew Dickson and Daniel for sure as knows what he wants more than he than he did last year being a rookie. And we're just we're just as a team where recent smart, we're not doing anything dumb. We're making small strides in. Setup packages and the way we're building our cars and taking them to the racetrack. And we're not making decisions, and I feel like that's really allowing us to perform upfront every week. And we don't have any hiccups. We're always there were always we're always where we need to be. So I think it's just a little bit of everything. So if my research is correct I wanna jump to you personally. Now, you grew up racing as well. I believe it was what late models out on the west coast. So kinda just take me back a little bit to kind of how you got your start just in racing in general. And again, I believe you even race against Brendan. Yes, if that's right. So I basically I'm third generation that my grandfather was a very well known and midget and sprint car racer in the fifties. And he drove for Vic Etel Brock. He was in the Indy. Five hundred in nineteen fifty something. And that's kind of word all starting. My dad started racing. At a very young age of sixteen. Big cars race, go karts before that and then same same with me. I started racing go karts and quarter midgets at age of five really taken it on at seven till I was about sixteen and then at sixteen I got I got a super late model and decided that we were going to try try that route. And and see if we could do anything, and I remember Irwindale speedway the Naga Royal night believers either two thousand or nineteen ninety nine one of the one of those years, Brendan ran number twenty and Iran number twenty. Well, I already had the number purchased at Irwindale speedway. That was my number twenty. Well, Brendan wanted to make a deal with my dad where he wanted to run number twenty. My dad told him. No that was my number. So he had to run number one twenty and that story comes up all the. Time when he sees my dad, and and everything it's it's pretty funny, but Brendan actually won the very first inaugural night at at Irwindale speedway. So that's kind of how my first rumblings of knowing of Brendan gone. And then later on in the years, I decided that driving wasn't really what I wanted to do any more just the money side of things and how expensive and everything it was I decided to go to work on a race team. And I gave Shane Wilson which was Brennan's crew chief resume Phoenix. And I started working at at Brendan gones race team in two thousand two at like November. I think I worked there for four or five years under Shane Wilson. And then he left and went to Pinski and all that stuff. And I I mean, I started at the bottom they they made me work a a two week trial period. I was young to make sure that I was capable of doing the job. And after four days they hired me. And. Shane wilson. I still give him crap today about he he barely paid me enough to be able to get an apartment survive in Las Vegas. It's not cheap. And I remember he he gave me said I can pay you this much per week. And I said, I just I can't make that work Shane, I I need this. They said, okay. Well, you gave me that. And I worked there, and I I worked my guts out, and, you know, sweeping the floors, and they barely let me build crush panels in the trucks or the Winston west cars and. It was really a stepping stone. For me. I say I started at the bottom at at Orleans racing. But I I built my own race cars before I went to work there. So when you come into a race team like that, you they're not gonna just let you do whatever you want. They're going to make you work from the bottom. And that's what they did. And tales of people saying, I swept floors, actually true. No, it is it is actually true. They're just not gonna let you come in there and put the car together they're gonna make you to start somewhere. Exactly. And I did that. And by the time, I left and decided I wanted to come to North Carolina. I was the car CI or the truck chief there at Orleans racing event, and I left there. And and decided I wanted to come to North Carolina and Rick Corelli, a childhood hero of mine racing on the west coast. He was just recruited the high plains drifter was one of the baddest race car drivers on the west coast. And and watched him rakes. As a kid called me and want to recover to work for Kevin Harvick I did that and worked there for a few years one a lot of races with Ron Hornets as a car chief truck chief under recreation, which who taught me a lot Tommy a lot and how to be a crew chief in what it took and the and and how to prepare yourself, and those were those were fun. Yes. I I love recruited to death. We want a lot of race with Hornets. And and we had a lot of lot of good times. And this is this is where I'm at now. So going back to you making the decision that driving just wasn't than workout exp. It was more of. Have to be realistic about this. And I go work on the cars instead of trying to spend all my money and run out of money, or whatever it was to to try to be a driver myself. Yeah. I remember my my mom and dad like ever since I was seven years old. It was like men were racing. You're going to be the next Jeff, Gordon, right? And that's what we worked as a family like we we would go on lake trips or or river trips and stuff like that. But we were racing all the time. And that's like I didn't have very many summers. My dad would make me work at the shop. And I'd go home and work on my race car. My go kart and we race. That's what we did. It just got to the point where for me to make it to the next level. Like, we just didn't have the funding that it was going to take to do that. And I was I just told myself like, I don't think I wanna do this is it's not realistic. I wanna be a crew chief, and I told myself, and I there's other people that I I guess I told because they remind me of it today by the time, I'm twenty seven I'm going to be a crew chief in trucks Finnity or Cup. I worked my butt off. I worked a lot of hours. I I would be the first one to show up the shop. I'd be the last one to leave. And I just I wanted people to know that I was serious about about what I was doing. And by the time, I was twenty six Mike Dillon called me at the end of two thousand nine truck season. And he wanted wanted me to be Austin Dillon's crew chief, and it was like. Wow. So you hit you hit a hit my goal. And it was it was fairly quick. Like, I I started working at Orleans racing in two thousand at the end of two thousand two sweeping the floors like. I said I did know how to work on race cars, I knew setup stuff, but by the time it was two thousand ten they're calling me to be Austin's crew chief so pretty short period of time. Another cool story that that people know about that. I that I tell like as a child a teenager, maybe ten to thirteen years old. You know, most kids were I don't know what we were doing back, then maybe playing pogs or or or something I would lay in bed at night and read Steve Smith, autosport magazines and books on race, car dynamics. And if you go back in the day, you'd go in a circle track magazine, and you look in the very back of the circle track magazine. And there was books on their about roll center. Caster camber what the Pannard bar does in the back. What this does what that doesn't. I would have my mom order me these books, and I would st-. Study these books as a as a young kid, literally study them, and I would lay there in quiz myself in bed like so the track bar if I raise it does this and then the next night out might think about that. And then if I was I offer get what that was I pulled that book out and look at it yelp. It does this. And that's where it all started for like, setups chassis side of things a lot of times, you know, these days, it's kids go to go to college to be an engineer, and they learn mechanical engineering, and all that stuff that was how I learned how to do it. And my dad was was very chassis smart. And he he built his own race cars for a living. He had his own chassis shop for years, and he was very very smart. But I think that's a pretty cool story. So I hear that. I have to ask though, if you spending time doing that was like what were you like in school them where you distracted or I was distracted race. It was. Yeah. It was really bad. I did really good in school. I got good grades because my mom and dad told me if I got below a B I was not racing. Okay. So you still have the incentive that you had had to make as and Bs if I made a CO and racing. So I made as and Bs, but it was difficult. I struggled in school because I am. If it's the same way today, if I'm not interested in something I'm not going to put any effort into it. And like this this stuff this race in this this this lifestyle that I've chosen is what I'm interested in still to this day. I come to work on Monday morning excited to be here. I'm interested in it. I'm all in. I'm. You know, it's just it's it's almost overwhelming. I I'm thirty seven years old now, and I look back, and it's like man, I I think I wanna child my wife just turned thirty seven yesterday. I think we need to probably start working on on children and and headed in that direction, but it's like my whole life. All's I've worked or force trying to get to the top level of the sport. And we just my wife's been supportive of me the whole time and had my back the whole time. It's like wake up one day, and you're thirty seven. It's like, whoa. I guess, you know, forgoing children when you'd be thinking about that. So that's that's weighing on me a little bit. I've been thinking about that. And it's been a good ride. Yes. Exactly. It's this. The sport is just it will if you if you let it will to. Yup, spit you out, but you've got to enjoy it goes by so quick. I mean, I just yesterday. Feels like we're at Daytona. And it's already October second. We're we're getting ready to got like five or six races left. So, but it's been a fun ride. I have no regrets sportsman good to you. You mentioned that you get to the truck series with Austin you in a truck title, you've spent most of your time now niece vanity series haven't expanded title has the extended series just kind of suited you better. Or is it been one of those things where you're not in a rush to take that next? It's suited me. I like racing every week the truck series. I feel like you kinda kinda get stagnant. You race. Maybe once a month or you might have a five week stretch. And then he got like four weeks off. You can't get in a rhythm that way. Man, I'm telling you like xfinity in Cup race, and you have to be on it weekend and week out. And it's it's a lifestyle. But I like that. So I I like the extended series. My alternate goal is to be on Sundays be there on Sundays. What does have to see so talking about the expanding series? You've worked with the younger guys that you mentioned you like, but what's the difference between working with the grandsons of your team owner versus somebody like Paul Menard or now Danielle Henrik or Ron Hornets. So I was fortunate enough to get three championships. I think it was three two or three championships with a Hornets as the truck chief, and then we won a championship with Scott Lynch and Winston list, and then obviously Austin I would say that. Working with Austin and tie is difficult. Definitely. Difficult because of the blood. Okay, I wouldn't say difficult. I would say you got to know how to deal with it. Okay. It no matter. What you do? Everybody knows that like Austin tire. The grandson of Richard shelters. You have more pressure on on you to perform, especially when Austin was first year and trucks. We didn't know nobody really knew what if he was going to be any good, right? If he was going to be just mediocre. Well, we got reysen in in in two thousand ten and he's like sitting on poles and we're leaving laps. And he's I mean, it was just like, wow. This kid's really good. I've had in my racing career or can with Austin Dillon has been so much fun because made him we're like brothers. When he when he started in two thousand ten with me. He was like just a little kid the kid barely had. He didn't even have any facial hair. Nothing. Like, I feel like I taught him like how to be a teenager, and then be a young adult, and that was fun researching and looking through things, of course, pictures of yes. You look at pictures of house young. Austin Dillon was phase this facial hair. Just looks. He looks eight actually, and then, you know. I had fun with that. Because he didn't know anything about it. I mean, he knew more than most eighteen year olds or whatever how old he was sixteen maybe because he's born in the business. But he didn't he didn't know the race car savvy side of things like Hamrick does Henrick knows it because he's had to do it himself. So teach him him. All that stuff was fun working with Ron horn today. A legend one of my biggest heroes in my entire life. Love the guy to death. He just knew what he wanted. He told you this is the way it's going to be. That's how it's going to be you get it close all wheel it from there. And that's what it was. There wasn't no talking about it. You give them the feely wants. He goes in wins the race that was fun. But I had a lot of fun working with with Austin and teaching him and I listened to on Sundays now. And it's you listen to some of the lingo that comes out of his mouth and how he explains something. That's how me and him. That's how we live. Tell it stuck it stuck. And that's how he talks still to this day. Right. And then you know him he's a rookie. But he's not he said to do this his whole life. It's a harder way experience between the two right him. Very smart. He knows I can talk to him very, technically. And he understands where Austin he's he he knows some of that now but back then he didn't more things for you, Danny? I'll let you get back to work. I appreciate you doing this. No problem. It's fun. This will be a little bit of a repetitive question. Have you having already talked about, you know, your past being a driver and whatnot. But how much of that helps you in your current role of maybe just knowing drivers mindset or how to attack a race car stuff? Like that. Definitely. If you talk to people that that are around me a lot. I I have meetings with my guys talking about how mental this is not necessarily just this just life in general. Right. Like, everything we do is so mental, and we can get inside our own heads. And and kind of spin spin ourselves out. I feel like pretty simple pretty easily. And that's one thing that I preached to these younger guys guys. This is how mental this is being me being coming from racing and driving cars myself, and knowing that I can get in my own head. I mean, I I raced drove from a very young child that I was teenager. And I think that's one of the things that that I try to. Preach to these younger guys in the guys moving how mental it is even the teen guys. Like these these guys that when they walk in walk in the gate at the racetrack. I want them confident that they built the best race car in the garage area. The driver when he sits in that seat. I want him confident that he sitting in the best race car the prettiest race car the best. Well prepared race car. He possibly can that comes from me. No, preparing my own race cars, preparing my own go karts, and preparing all my own stuff that if I did not feel when I got to the racetrack that my stuff was prepared as best as it possibly could be or I didn't have the best equipment possible. I didn't wanna be there. So I think that's one thing that I try to preach to these guys. It's important mentally, and I feel like beat me me racing. And doing it myself. I have a good understanding of that side of things leads perfectly woman next question to be. Is there such thing as a crew chief personality or type of leadership and even here in your office? You've got Vince Lombardi picture up there. I see Bev Ryan quote over here. And you just talked about how kind of what you try to instill in your team. So to that end. What would you say, maybe as your style a personality as crew chief in terms of leading driver in your team? You know, I. Different, right. Yeah. Probably like all up and down pit road. There's probably different types of personalities crew chiefs like there is different personalities with drivers. I feel like you fit kind of maybe of, hey, I'm more of a laid-back teach by Zampa type thing or how would you describe your? So I would it's it's kind of hard. When I I was a crew chief when I first came into this the side of it on the crew chief side and not the mechanic Karchi side of things I had a lot to learn a lot. I thought I had it licked, but I did not. And I'll tell you when I first started. I. I was pretty rough on my people and I- micromanaged a lot. I didn't let people do their jobs. I kind of snap at people. And I'll tell you over the years. I have learned that your people are your most important asset that you have we have tools right while you're people are your most important tool. Just like a wrench you need this wrench to tighten that bolt. While you need these people on top of their game to make sure that that whole race cars put together perfect. And that out say that's one thing that I learned over the years is you gotta take care of your people. This sport is so hard. You cannot just kill people and work them to death. You have to give people time with their families time that they need to take care of personal things. So that you get the most out of them when the racetrack or at the shop, and I'd say that I'm pretty laid back nowadays. I was not five years ago. I was really really hard hard hard core on people like I don't know how to explain this. But I was really hard. For on thinking that no matter what you were. I mean, it was liver die racing. And and it took if you didn't work fifteen hours a day. You weren't doing doing a good job. Well, that's not the case. My my whole mentality of it is changed price since I've turned thirty actually. And it's actually been easier on me. Now, it's it's made me enjoy this a lot more. I do I have all these quotes hanging up. And I like looking at him because I think it people come in here and pick this up and read it every time somebody sits in that chair. There's some pretty cool stuff on there. So you know, I. I would say that that I'm more laid back, and I believe in in having the right people is key to success. And there's something to be said about chemistry as far as from driver to crew chief and something to be said about crew chief to engineer and for from the team aspect was staring at this block because it's actually really really cool kind of like the same person. I love being able to scare it something. I want to end kind of on what I hope will be a little bit of a high success. What Brennan success with Ron Trump titles Austin expanded the title you've won Indianapolis with tie. He want to be in the Cup series one day. Do you have any other specific bucket list goals that you can think of or? Yeah. I mean, I I feel like I'm kind of in the middle of my career. Like, I I've won a lot of races and trucks. I've won not as many graces. I'd like to have an extremely I've won a championship. Annex Finnity and trucks. My next in the next chapter of my life is is racing on Sundays and trying to not just race on Sundays though, like talking about like be competitive like be there be when we show up to the racetrack. I want our CR to be like I want. I want the media to be talking about us again, I wanna be show up. And then guys be like man are CR's really really got their shit together. Right now, you know, and I on Sunday. That's what I wanna do. I wanna go. I wanna race on Sundays with whoever the driver is I want to be competitive and I want to win races. And hopefully, I can be guy. Maybe when I'm you know, forty five saying that I've I was able to win truck championship Finnity championship in a Cup championship. Then I'd say if I did that and we had a successful time in Cup that I would be pretty happy. And you mentioned earlier we'll see how it works. I won't press you on whether it's going to happen next year. Yeah. I don't I don't know about all that. We'll just have to wait and see. All right. Well, danny. Thank you for welcoming me into the office. Thanks for taking. I'm really glad I got to know more because it it was a heck. Yeah. Anytime. Thank you. No problem.

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REShow: Al Michaels And Joe Buck Hour 2 (05-08-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Al Michaels And Joe Buck Hour 2 (05-08-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Both Rich Eisen Show Daddy's hosting today from the Rich Eisen show studio in Los Angeles. What team are we? GonNa be surprised. That gets a little more. Primetime action the jets because they're gonNA fourteen into earlier on the show devious sports. Nfl analyst. Charles Davis coming up. Nbc's Sunday Night Football Michael's sports broadcaster. Joe Buck actor. Jonathan Banks was Jim. Nance rich is is another edition of the rich show live on. Nbc S. N. Good to see Chris Brockman and Mike del Tufo. My producer by audio executive is he likes to be referred to the Voice of Sunday night. Football in a an America football at America Sunday night football together on. Nbc is Al. Michaels will be joining us first up as we have a schedule. We have a national football league scheduled for the first time in twenty twenty four upcoming season and look. I totally get that. Were all freaked out in this world about what's going to happen later today. Let alone September are you know. Is it possible that this season is delayed? Of course. It's possible that the season starts on time and we've got no fans of course? Is it possible that season starts on time and there are fans? Because the world has changed. I mean knock on wood if you're with me to use the groom price so for the moment just like last night when I was on. Nfl Network for four hours going over the announcement of the two thousand twenty NFL schedule. By the way an Omaha was called from desk left studio to position in my Home Office to desk right studio one position I went from. Nfl mock draft with Daniel Jeremiah. Studio desk left position to draft a thon desk right position because the Internet was a little dicey my area no so we had a little Omaha. Wow so there. I was sitting desk right for four hours last night. And we're GONNA that's how we're GONNA handle the next couple hours on rich. Eisen show here and take your phone calls. Eight four four two zero four rich number dial. I'm sure you've got something to say about this schedule about your team about the team that you love the team that you love to hate their schedules easier than yours and will put you on the air and we'll take your phone calls today but we've got three guys who I had together at one point last night during the NFL network coverage of the twenty twenty NFL schedule Release Alma the voice of Sunday night. Football Joe Buck the voice of Thursday night football and the NFL on Fox and Jim. Nance the voice of the NFL on CBS altogether. And if you had Jim nance bringing the would talking smack about the. Tom Brady game that he has scheduled as opposed the Tom Brady Games. That are scheduled for Joe. Buck to call or Al Michael. If you had that on your Bingo card it fills up all five counts. Dingle talking smack last night? Because he's got. Cbs has the mahomes visit to Brady. Now Fox has one part of one. Would I think as well all Brady Tampa Games now? The Bronx there too is the ultimate beachfront property of of the NFL. Two Thousand Twenty season in terms of who gets it and who calls it and how you're going to see it and the fact that the NFL doesn't waste a single second and puts it out there in week. One means two things one they know they have to have us at hello in week one and two to that the NFL means that they are putting the schedule out. And this is the schedule and there's no other schedule that sitting out there don't look for any nest eggs that you're going to lop off the first four weeks and put it on the back end or that. Hey we were going gonna Jam the first four weeks all with AFC versus NFC contests because those are the least important games when it comes to tie breaks that division games as we all know as most important tie-break and then the conference games the most important tiebreaker than you got common opponents and things like that where the AFC NFC contests do come into play but right off the Bat. You've got a huge AFC contest between two teams that did Battle in the division round last year Watson and the Texans the Shawn Watson and the Texans Visit Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City opening night for our and Chris and Michelle to Foia and the NBC gang to bring us in our homes raising a banner in Kansas City and everybody wants to see this matchup with the exception of the bears front office because those are the two teams that drafted the quarterbacks that are better than Mitchell trubisky who may not even be starting that week one game you see on the screen right there between the bears and lions Portuguese so basically Chicago and a bears front office is the only ones that aren't GonNa Realize Oh Watson and mahomes but how great will that be. But as a great piece of Filet Mignon right off the bat and then Fox gets the first of the Breeze Brady match ups. And it's in New Orleans the superdome where it all began for Tom. I'm sure Fox will have that. All two thousand two didn't Fox have that game right. It was it was the last game that man summerall called four Fox when Madden's wondering if check was gonna just tap out of the deregulation and going overtime with his seven year quarterback this this wet behind the ears. Tom Brady in that in that dome and now here he is back. Twenty years later starting new with Tampa. I mean schedule makers in the NFL front office headed by Howard Katz Longtime Television Executive in this business. You knows exactly what. We're all looking for and We I told this to you man then. Nbc will get the other Bray breeze. Brady matchup on Sunday night. Football as the bucks have five National Television Games and obviously there's a six. They could flex into Monday night. Football gets to breeze. Brady's I mean money. Football gets to Brady Games Sunday night. Football gets to Brady Games. Fox gets a ton of Brady Games and CBS GETS TO AFC visits to Tampa. And then the game that Jim. Nance we usually talk about flex games when it comes to NBC flexing into a game but last night Jim Nance had the first flex of the season. I've got mahomes at Tampa great stuff and the first Sunday night game. We'll talk about with al. Right up the road here in Los Angeles. The new so-fi stadium. And it's a no brainer. I opponent because if anybody just google it. Google the history of that stadium up the road and you will find out that there was another competing site for Los Angeles football to regenerate and that was way down the road about fifty fifty minutes an hour or depending on the traffic very far from where the current stadium is right near. Lax and Jerry. Jones was one of the more influential owners as he is today. Put his thumb on the scale. And say we're going to that site where the so five stadium is and guess WHO's business. Help find the naming rights for that Stadium Jerry Jones. It's all put it together and the cowboys the first ones up so fi stadium cowboys at the La Rams in that new beautiful stadium and again hopefully filled with fans who are happy to be there because we are through the looking glass on this awful virus and it doesn't feel like we're going to have that but at this point in on this last first Friday of May knock on wood with me are seconds the second Friday my bad. It's all start on May first long story short. Where here you're there you're here by just. I just went Chris Mars. I'm here you're there I of of my my hair's perfect and it is. I Look Great Today. I think and my yes. I was wondering at home when my is plum. Okay so I'm the professor today with the schedule in the studio killing it let's go. What's our poll question at Rich Eisen? Show Chris I threw up there Something last hour. Let's just look at week one. What's the Best Week One? Nfl matchup here. The four big ones Texans chiefs Thursday night or packers Vikings Box Saints Cowboys Rams Sunday night. So packers. Vikings is monumental matters juice. I mean just right out the gate right out the gate in Minnesota Kirk cousins against Air Rogers and the first game where rodgers can just stick it in division against the team. That everybody believes is the these are the two best teams in the NFC with the ultimate respect to the bears and the Lions who play each other also on week. One love that one jets draw the short? Afc East Straw having to go to buffalo and Buffalo has not one not two not three but four nationally televised games four. They've got to Monday nights or Sunday night. Or that's deep in the schedule week. Fifteen against the Pittsburgh steelers that NBC won't flex out of all of that but we've got a ton of bills games that are going to be coming up for your viewing pleasure and the Patriots open up at home against the dolphins and I spoke to my bff Bill Belichick live on NFL network last night about all that and so bill only wanted to talk about week one. That said he wasn't going to go into the schedule on the road. At not surprising. But do you have that call up? That sound Mike del to focus. I did ask Amiss about as quarterbacks and this is huge as far as I'm concerned because we haven't really heard him talk very much about is it stems giger not by referring to sit him with a nickname and talking about what. He's looked like so far what he's seen of him. It sure sounds like this. Is your starting quarterback week. One against the Miami Dolphins steady work really hard last year Now is are back to quarterback the entire season and I know it's working hard all season. He's made a lot of progress on terms understanding our offense and and Understanding opponent defenses like all players. Do from your Wendy or to So I'm sure he'll get out there and be ready to go. Be prepared compete hard and Elsewhere thanks stead stead. Steady GonNa start week one bro. Instead we trust still gonNA start. I'm ready for it. And then we at Seattle. He's not ready to move on to Seattle right now. Just focused on the dolphins. We don't play Cincinnati. There's a ton of divisional matchups in week one and the NFL. I had Troy Vincent on the VP of football operations. That was the second interview that of mine that during the broadcast last night and I asked him. Is there another schedule? Is there an eight game or twelve Gamer? That's sitting somewhere or are there any nest eggs for us to look at it in here to to know about any contingency plans and his answer was no this is it unless Howard Katz is got another schedule. He hasn't told us about and he's in charge of football operations. So this is it week one. I mean there are a ton of great games in week. One that I think if the season is delayed the just gonNA push it further on down the road and keep the schedule as intact as they possibly can. That's it week once be week. One week seventeen is going to BE CREEK. Seventeen and the question is is it going. How close is it going to be the actually scheduled week one in the actually scheduled week seventeen and Tampa Florida? I'll tell you this right now as I'm sure not. Many hotels are being booked up right now. I'm sure just keep the rooms available in March and April and everyone else will adjust you know what I mean. Everyone else will adjust eight four four. Two four rich is the number to dial. We've got Joe Buck Jim. Nance and one of our favorite actors in one of our favorite television shows. Jonathan banks is going to be joining us. We've been knocking on his door for quite a bit. Certainly when better call Saul was finishing up. Its recent season. And he's like now's at time. I'm I'm willing to call in talk about that. Show breaking bad. He plays Mike Urban Trout. These also forty eight hours spoiler alert. His character didn't last very long. He also he's the one who got thrown through the buffet table at the Harrow. Club helped wreck the buffet cop. He was part of the wrecked. I mean lots to talk about with him. But let's take a break if you're on. Hold stay on hold and give a listen to my conversation about to have with one of my favorite people on the planet the Voice of Sunday night football on and BC MICHAEL'S NEXT ON NBC S. N. Okay so Joe. Buck is teed up. Jim NANCE will be joining us after Jonathan. Let's take a phone call right here before we get to To Al Michaels Allen in San Diego's hanging on for a while. What's up? Alan rich how you doing today. How are you sir? Thank One thing that I think. The true test of quarterbacks is usually just how they perform under pressure. How did they perform in the two zero specifically and one guy who? I've noticed a young guy that I know you like to did a great two miniature rookie or not. I thought it was a great telling of how he is. I don't think he's gotten a fair shot in the NFL yet. What needs to happen. With Josh Rosen Day Allen and brought this up the other day and you know you've got fits and you've got to you know. Josh Rosen can be flipped somewhere else and I think he would love that think about that kid gets drafted tenth overall and then the team decides to draft Carl Amari ship in the Miami where he spends one year and then they draft too so clearly a long term plan and if he wants to be starting quarterback in this league which everybody does. I don't know I know Brockman. You're like call up Miami and take them. Yeah you know before that in a heartbeat and unstinting here but Because we have to be. But I was a big rosen. I know so. I just don't know how willing the dolphins would be to flip him within division but I'll take I would take a shot on him for sure if you're why wouldn't Chicago reach out for him right. I know that look. I'm not even thinking about scheme but Allan this is the conversation. We've been having about Rosen for awhile exactly. I mean I think he's got just got untapped potential that it seems like nobody seeing. Well thanks for the call. I appreciate it. His football life has been very unlucky so many different coordinators at UCLA. And then what happened with Airasia kind of get thrown out there with a cardboard offensive line? You ship the Miami. He really hasn't had a fair shot. That's true that's a fact. Yeah there's the Jacksonville I know. I mean they do like Gardner Menchu for good reason. I mean you just mentioned Chicago. Rosen had to have been cheaper to trade for than full. So I can't imagine Rosen would've yeah but wrote lost a fourth-round fit foals foals as a guy that you can actually win with right now in. Rosen's going to be a guy going to go through growing pains and they've already had enough growing pains trubisky. They have like a real veteran sitting around there. Yeah but I mean I do. Feel for Josh. Rosen in that right audio editing at eight four four two four rich number to dial when we come back a great chat with Al Michaels and then Joe Buck will finish up the hour with your phone calls again at eight. Four four zero four rich. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. Dot Com. Welcome back to the rich. Eisen show had him Joe Buck and Jim. Nance together last night and I'm going to have them together right here on this show with Joe Buck following this conversation Jim. Nance at the very end of our program to take us into our weekend. We've got the twenty twenty. Nfl schedules out a good friend of mine which thrilled to be able to say and back here on the rich. Eisen show from Sunday night. Football on the NBC. Al Michaels how are you out? I am doing great rich good to be with you yesterday. Great to be with you today and hopefully I'll see you down the line in short order. I it's it's so good to see schedule. Come out and again you know. It's being very optimistic. And you're on top of it. You don't know what's going to happen tomorrow or next week. Or whenever and you know right now not only to come out with the schedule. But they came out. I think with the preseason schedule as well. We're on the docket for a couple of games in August. So let's see what happens. You know what that is basically what I think the. Nfl wanted to do. Let's just get out there. Let's get it all out there and we'll adjust once we do get it all out there and that's why they did that with the draft last week is like because if not then then when and teams can now basically plan as best they can and then adjust and and you look at the schedule and they you know. This isn't like Dipping a toe in the pool. You know what I mean figuring it out down the line a real deal raising the banner in Kansas City with the Shawn Watson coming in and then you come here to Los Angeles to open up the new stadium With the cowboys I mean that is a what we that. That's his real deal as any schedule. What start for you and NBC. Listening to you. Talk about the history of the stadium and you and I both know it because you know living in La. But I all the way back to when the rams played in the Coliseum. They were the only team in town and they decided they didn't want to play on the coliseum anymore. Move to Anaheim. And that opened up the Coliseum for the Raiders. Tonight had two teams coming in. And then you had ball teams leaving in Nineteen ninety-four Oakland goes back to to their original digs rams. Go to St Louis Rich. I'm thinking about a couple of different things. One of them because A friend of ours. Rd Hubbard degrade. Race track IMPRESARIO. He died last week. I think. At the age of eighty four but D Hubbard had made a deal with Al Davis to build to build a raiders stadium at Hollywood park with the soap. By saying he was going to be now and there was a big sign up their future. Home of the raiders. That went away and then I don't know if you remember this but Al Davis and only Al Davis could have pulled this off season of getting sued. He used to do shoeing. Litigated baby but he went. He went to the town of Irwindale which is nice but a gravel pit within that twenty eight people and somehow someway extracted a personal check to him for ten million dollars. Ten million dollars of the IRWINDALE budget which I had no idea that had a thousand dollars. In that he got a non-refundable ten million dollar check from a guy named Xavier. Hannah Animus who was the city manager of Irwindale? And Alto so badly about it when you know you know what. Hit the fan when everybody said we're in the world did that money come from the Davis gave her Maceo. A job in the raiders. Front office sitting in the park. I mean you can't make this stuff up you can't and then they leave and now now you've got all kinds of possibilities. Farmers Field remember that of course extra staple center That that went to that went away. Then you had the thing in Carson with all the methane gas underneath that was where the raiders and the We're going to play. And and then saying Karaki comes in comes in and comes in to the rescue. It's only costing them five point. Five billion dollars setup. But it's GonNa be Great Rich but Jerry Jones is Is a no brainer? I guessed for an owner to bring his team in for that one Jerry. Jerry new I mean. Look Jerry built the Taj Mahal stadiums. I mean that stadium is right now. I think thirteen years old twelve years old. It's still to me. It's beautiful. It's Pristine Jerry only. Does things first class top grade and you walk around that stadium. It's one of those you know the cliche but eating off the floor. You can't maintain it perfectly. And he knew in stand he had a guy who had the same kind of vision so the only difference would be not the only person but Texas is a right to work state and California's a union state. So only spending about five times with Jerry did to build his Taj Mahal and yeah and now he's coming here for for week one Sunday night football and then I'm looking at some of the other Sunday night games You Got Brady twice one in Las Vegas and then one at home. You've got the other week one is on Fox with Brady coming out of the gate at breeze. But you've got brees at Brady and week nine that's just GonNa be dynamite. Al Just dynamite. Well you know what I look at that game in Vegas and going to be exciting. Obviously to go into bagels and see what that's all about but with Tampa Bay going in there in week seven Remember back rich to The January February after the taste. Season's over Tom GonNa do. You'RE GONNA wind up what he wind up with. The chargers and I think a lot of people thought that he was gonNA wind up with the with the raiders. He would go to Las Vegas and I know I think it mentioned on the telecast we did yesterday Richard About I was in Vegas and late February and they're very excited about the team. They're very excited about the draft and they were really excited the locals. They thought they had a real good chance to get Tom. Brady so they're gonNA get Tom Brady but he's going to be in a different uniform on Sunday night. The twenty fifth of Coburn a Vegas gain is on November. Twenty second right before Thanksgiving Kansas City at the raiders. So are two games in Las Vegas if she will have Tom Rating and Patrick Mahomes. Pretty Cool you've got Ravens Patriots again. This time around though it's Ravens at Patriots and then last year obviously the ravens just stopping the Patriots was a I guess. A watershed moment in the season last year for both teams. I'm wondering did you and Chris pick-up anything when you chatted with Brady. Last year about that Brady was out the door because he has subsequently said now that he is in Tampa telling your friend you have appeared on the Howard Stern show Telling your friend the King of all media that that that he he knew he was gonNA last. Summer is what he said. Did you sense any of that when you chatted with Brady prior to Sunday night? Football Games in New England with New England last year. First of all you are. The king will meet his. You're on your on constantly. Forget about how you know I it got a lot of publicity talked about this with you. A couple of other people in the past couple of months so we did that game which was The ninth or Tenth Week of the season anyway. The Patriots came into Baltimore early November on Sunday night. They were eight all. They were undefeated athlete through the season. Everybody was saying in. The schedule is easy and Defense. And Yeah the defense was great. They were averaging Giving up less than I think ten points per game and Brady was he was doing okay. But that's when Tom said and he said it was a little bit of a smile in our production meeting. On the unhappiest eight. Oh quarterback in football and that's gotten a lot of play out there but that's exactly what he said he didn't see him. The unhappiest quarterback. He's on the happiest eight bowl quarterback. Of course somebody eight quarterbacks were there at that particular time right but anyway you got two point but still i. I sat across the table. And we've covered a lot through the years. I've known him pretty well. And I know how much Bob Kraft loves him. I mean craft talks about the fact. He's like another son and craft and Brady of got along so famously that even though there might have been whatever it was and I'm not sure I don't know what it was with and Bela ship and it was anything I don't know. Maybe they just want it to look to the future. Tom Just wanted a change. Nobody seems to know. I think there was a confluence of events but I can't say that I really saw Chris at that point that it was a possibility. Yeah scam possibility. Maybe But the fact that he would walk out the door shocking and in fact I was trying to get the answer out of him by by saying the time. All right. Listen I'M GONNA I'm GonNa lay is forty three thousand to one right now at this table that you'll never wear the uniform and kind of left and then one of our top research guys Andy. Phelan plunked down two bucks. So now I'm I'm on the hook for six thousand dollars and I never wanNA see andy again. I bet you know. And it's interesting to on Michael's here on the rich. Eisen show not one not two but three packers games on the schedule week. Three dynamite game packers at saints They latest iteration of bears at packers in week. Twelve and then a titans packers game all the way at the end. That's a three g situation right there for you guys. Were pop the schedule up here and we had we had farve on this show two Wednesdays ago and he said that the Jordan loved drafting will definitely have the wheels turning inside Rogers head. And you're GonNa Watch that drama play out in year to Matt Leflore and and Aaron Rodgers. And what's going on right in front of your very eyes with some pretty big games for this team. How how do you? How do you as somebody who's watched the the young Montana stuff the farve Roger Stuff? You've seen this play out before you. Do you see this another situation like what we're assuming it is. How what you sure made news with that carbon interview. That was that was something I heard that day. That was that was pretty interesting. Obviously a lot of people picked up on it. You know. I look at the top quarterbacks through all the years that I I've done this year to Marino and Montana and you with the Brady and and the manning boys and Y- even Arron Rogers Right now in his mid thirties and everybody's saying well you know. This is the kind of thing that lights a fire under them and I'm thinking to my show and then go back to you know Garoppolo to drafted by New England a few years back. I know these guys. They don't need a fire lit under that. These guys are all out all the time. And he's all knowing. These guys is not one of them that I knew. Was it all out no matter what was going on so when people say oh boy this is a really get. Aaron Crazy or or he'll be a better quarterback because he's got this guy behind him. I don't buy that. I don't buy Arron. Rogers has so much pride and And so intelligent and get everything that I don't see Aaron Rodgers because Jordan. Love is there on the bench playing any better than he would had. You know you had anybody else behind him on the bench like an older quarterback guy wasn't gonNa take his place someday so I I'm not one that buys into the fact that you've got some motivate these guys who are super motivated to begin with have great pride in what they do and I I just. I'm I'm of a mind to expect them to play exactly the way they would play. If none of this was happening on the side. Yeah and last year I mean you called the packers forty niners game. That was another watershed moment. I I would say certainly with that. That was when the niners. Spank in the packers. Coming off the bye week and that. That's what I think they kinda grab the okay their for real mantra and ran with it all the way through to beating the packers in the NFC championship game. And those were the last two packers losses of their entire season. The niners three times Al Right. Now as it's currently slated. How good do you think this team is based on everything that you've already seen moving around chess pieces from NFC teams from free agency draft to the Car Day? Very very rich because we talked about. It'd be a forty nine or three times. Last year IT TURNED OUT TO INFLEX. And then we had them in the playoffs against Minnesota. And I keep going back and repeated it every time we had the forty niners with John Lynch and couch and said the first thing they wanted to do is build a super bowl defensive line and when you look at how they've constructed that team and if you want to go back to that. Green Bay regular season game at Levi Stadium The forty niners able to blow out early because of the pressure that was put on by the defensive line at the Rogers fumble and and then you know the roof caved in early. So you've got. That defense is terrific and they played very well of course in the Super Bowl up until the last six and a half or seven minutes of the game so I look at them defensively and I think very strong. I think Garoppolos really good quarterback I mean people are trying to pick them apart right now. He's whatever they want to say okay. Got It He's got some good receivers. You got the running backs really came through. They had a whole bunch of them last year. I like the way Shanahan and Lynch have constructed this team. I think they're very clear. Eyed I think they they see exactly what they need to do to make this team contending team and they clearly are. I mean they're back. It's like the glory days are back. They had to glorious decade than the two thousand decade. Wasn't particularly good until harbaugh got there and then they were good again and then they fell off the end of the earth again. And now they're back so I think the forty niners looked to me like they're a team that's poised for a good long run here well out last night and that conversation that I had with you and Joe Baku's joining us in about seven minutes time and Jim. Nance WHO's joining us at the very end of the hour In that conversation we had live on. Nfl Network last night. I think we had our first flex of the season with Jim nance talking about the Mahomes at Brady Game. And that's the game that everybody wants on the screen. I think he was flexing right there. Alan I think I think he. I think he put the preemptory chip for CBS. On that game. Rodway I I think you're have to come through to get that game on. Nbc This fall. You know when it comes to the League made up the schedule. That in twenty cents. We'll get nothing you know you can politics and all that stuff. I mean all these years you know living on the west coast. I enjoy when on the schedule comes out and see a few west goes games and I'm looking at their schedule and I sneak up on one by one and I know we have to open the Kansas City. But I'm sneaking up on it yesterday when it came out that goes all open game at la. Good I'm in bed that night at home in bed that night to flying back home San Fran and week four grades Seattle Week. I was Pacific. I'm going wait a second. What happened here. I mean I me and my thirty year doing it in thirty four years. I think eight games the time zone got my eleven year so I am. I am worshipping at the shrine of Howard on. It's not to say you're you're mentioning the executive who's atop the scheduling flow chart. You've known how you you've known. Howard since what since like some sort of motocross day that you did. Wide World of sports back in the seventies with Bruce Jenner. Pretty much down or something like that. It's like my father who passed away at eighty. Three of my father and Mark McCormick started trans world. International okay he rely which is a part of IMG and my father. Mccormick it and Howard Work for my dad Over forty years ago so we go all the way back. I mean way way way way back and then Howard was leaving living out in California. Now he lives just outside of Philadelphia but We go We go far far back and who would have ever thought that some day you have to call Howard and save man this. This is the best I can. I can do this whole schedule on a Greyhound bus. I love it before I let you go out. GimMe Good Wide World of sports story. What's The craziest thing? He did for wide world of sports back all motorcycles. On ice and Jill West Germany. Nineteen seventy go. Yeah but that without question. That's when I get on the block. I would do anything they want me to do. The scene shift by writing down the script device in front of fifteen thousand wild and wooly Germans who've been drinking snot so that the note and I have never been on a on a motorcycle my life. I've been on a Schwinn. I needed training wheels. But I'm ready to do this. This leathers of guys like five six hundred forty five pounds Russia that point. I'm probably five ten one eighty and I can't breathe and now I don't know how to work the the the motorist. I don't know what to do with a clutch thing. Whatever I don't know what dials deter my seat and all I know is at one point I started to read it and had somebody my grabbed the clutch. I would have been launched along with show us. Don't garbage somewhere survive. We made it and you know when you're when you the rookie and you're the kid you'll do anything all of a sudden you get a little older. You go get Outta town plan. So there was no agony of defeat. Basically he's there would've it would've been a memorial service that if I love you. Man Best to Linda will chat soon. Okay thanks to call it Michael I mean. How many times do you use a phrase? You can't make this up right. You take the shot dom in books right in front of Mike del Tufo. Everyone done rename of his book is his can't make this up. It's true. Seen everything done saying I know. It's the book was a thrill of victory and the agony of defeat bar that I think was a ski jumper. Yeah that long jump. He didn't jump too much skin. Not Enough jumping. Let's take a break Joe up the voice of Thursday night football and also the NFL on Fox. We'll talk about the schedule with him when we come back but sneaking a phone call here. Let's go to Matt in Indiana right here on the rich Eisen. Show line one for those scoring at home. What's up Matt In reference next talk to you rich right back in in reference to empty stadiums on piping in Found wouldn't it be neat to use the jumbotrons to do like zoom or whatever you know programs have and rotates the fans through pipe them this no. I know and and it's kind of what the commissioner I think was doing right during the draft because again it was undrafted and not totally having eyes peeled on the linear cable draft coverage but that may have had an monitor in behind the issue is because I've seen what they did on the voice on Monday night as well as they had fans at home clapping. But you don't you don't hear them. You could see them pretty much. You might hear one person clapping. I'm saying that there has to be SOM- connectivity on an APP you download. Nfl Fan APP and it does actually by the number of people that are. There's a can become an algorithm that the number of people pressing the loud Button Yeah Savannah game and that there's a maximum number of decibels that you can reach in the stadium based on the maximum number of decibels that was recorded the year before right. Then that's the way to do this thing. I'm thinking the players enjoy seeing the fans also no doubt and I think the fans should be part of this thing. I'm not saying that they should not. I think it's a great idea. I just I'm just trying to figure out. And you're your your. I'm assuming based on what we talked about the end of the last hour right that we're trying to see how if there are no fans that crowd noise still is utilized to create a home field advantage for the home team and also potentially more enjoyable viewing environment for all of us sitting at home. I would think so. Thank you right back. Thanks for the call. The question is though is how. How is that police? How's that police? Then of course you know what would the steelers think about that system when a going to Gillett right I was going to consist of so does is their ten percent goes to the row does to the road team. So there's gotta you gotTA and by the way. What about chargers? Games designed sixty percent of the road teams. Get the chargers them the same. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. Dot Com eight four four two zero four rich number two dollars ticket check on the poll question as it sitting out there at richeisenshow. Chris Brockman when you have over there. What you guys think is the best week one matchup of the football season as released last night. Bucks Saints. We'd the way right now fifty nine percent. Yeah Man. Walk me through the rest of it please. Would you packers vikings seventeen percent chiefs Texans? The kickoff sixteen percent cowboys Ram Sunday night. Football at the new stadium. Eight percent. I mean Brady. Breeze is the piece of filet Mignon that I thought we would see later on in the season but when I saw it wind up as a one o'clock I said pardon me four twenty five eastern game three in the afternoon New Orleans time. That's what we're talking about right there and a man who I I mean. I know they haven't handed out assignments yet but you could pretty much book. This man for that broadcast Aikman in the rest of the NFL on Fox Crew Voice of Thursday night football as well our good buddy Joe Buck here on the richeisenshow Joseph. Great how are you? I'm doing fine? We were just talking to Al Michaels. And we do have Nancy coming on in the in the In the final hour to Joe. Just get the last word. Well you know I think Al got the last word with three of us last night saying that the story of the year would be if Romo and pick up a check at dinner check. That was fantastic. That was not just for his table by the way the entire whoever's in the restaurant at the time for all the lovers for all the lovers that my the ones on Romo as I said Joe was well that was the first flex of the season from gymnasts of all people About him getting the homes that At Brady game. That's the game that everybody wants. That was that was quite he. He bringing the would last night. Joe Yeah clearly Quarantines got him feel all crazy Yeah I I didn't expect it but for sitting on For their own schedule I know this. That Thursday night has never looked like this schedulewise. Whether it's been in the couple of years that I've been doing it or in previous incarnations with those other two guys and It's it's exciting to even think about that. Having national sometime games that are really should be that meaningful and then our Sunday schedule is incredible. And I I think it just. It's all kind of a fallout from. I really believe Brady common to the. Nfc I I don't know the people totally understand Fox bought the NFC for the most part. Cbs covers the AFC NBC and and Espn or kind of agnostic. That way but I think that when you have brady it brings another team a star power. To the conference we cover the most And a division. We have covered the least in the past And makes a really a a hell of a deep schedule no doubt about it and then the cherry on top in the form of Gronk which is which came out of nowhere for a lot of patriots fans. I mean you know Gronk Being part of this too so bucks in Chicago I mean Brady in Chicago to start off. The you know the Fox Edition of Thursday night football. That is pretty big stuff and then again I when I saw okay breeze hosting Brady Week one on like this is not one of those hedging a bats on what what's going to happen in the world with the schedule that the NFL's like this is a schedule and this is what. I didn't even think about that. Yeah that could get locked off in some people's Prognostication so yeah that that's That's interesting you bring that up that probably. Maybe that should have been later in the year. But maybe they're they're more optimistic than anybody even knows or the just going to delay the start of the season in week. One is GonNa be week one whether it's in September October or November. Or or what have you? I mean To that is a that. Is You know sizzle and stake together. That's GONNA be dynamite and knocking on wood that there will be fans in the in the superdome on that day and that you will be physically there as opposed to shelter in place calling that game. I mean that would be on this breeze hosting Brady to welcoming him into the NFC and the NFC south is just going to be dynamite football. Joe It really is and I and I think when you look at Brady and I'm a huge fan of and I don't know him that well we we've only I think I've only done probably definitely less than ten And nance last night said on the NFL network. He's done a hundred games. It's Tom Brady I that that's just proves that proves the point. Did they kinda ridden the Tom Brady? New England Patriots Bill Belichick train and now at least part of that has dropped off In the NFC for us. He's got a lot around him. He's got more weapons theoretically in Tampa Bay than he's ever had at one time in New England. I think that's always been his calling card. And and what makes them so great that he's been able to make it work with whoever they give him and he's got real talent on the outside he's got two maybe. Three outstanding tight ends The if the offensive line is is good enough. I think this is exactly what Brady hopes for that. That he's got kind of. He's getting older. He's forty plus forty whatever. It is forty two but my God he he's GonNa have his pick. I went down field and with his mind looking at a defense. I I think they can really be good. Well you've been Joe Buck here in the rich Eisen show. You been calling games for Fox almost as long as a Nance at CBS. When he came out off the studio at CBS out of the studio and was put into the booth to call the top games for CBS. Who would be the quarterback you've cau- called the most would that be Rogers if you just sat back and thought like one hundred? You've you've done an hundred Aaron Rodgers Games in the same way that he's done. Anything is prior. I think the prior to Aaron take over in. Oh eight I it might have been far So I yeah yeah for one senior and that's just really reflective of how had two guys for the most part there for the last you know X. number of years and other teams rifle through them. So you think well cowboy cowboy cowboy. That's all we ended up doing and six last seven weeks. We've Got Dallas at Fox in in this upcoming season. But yeah that's that's back for now and it was. Romo for did did a ton a rumour game. Obviously but I it would be either one of those. Two Green Bay. Quarterbacks would be the answer that question now how about how about you know the Jordan. Love drafting now. Replaying the farve rogers drama but Rogers in the role of Farve and seemingly. I mean we'll see that that is going to be front and center or at least put it this way behind the scenes certainly if there are green bay struggles coming out of the gate at Minnesota home for Detroit at New Orleans and then a Monday night or home for Atlanta. You know a one in three start. There might get something I mean. If our was on the show two Wednesdays ago set an owner. Three start would get that whole thing going in green. Bay's what he said. My I think draft nightcap the whole thing going And and you know Kudos to you and the the guys forget bread on and It was great to to hear and read about because I think it was an honest assessment. I think anybody that knows The personalities there I just I don't look there's no way you could look at the Green Bay packers who we've been lucky enough to call as we said a ton of their games and called them winning the whole thing. They're in Rogers not been the issue. It's been a defensive problem. That's gone on and been persistent even through different coordinators and And different personnel. And then you know they they've whiffed. They've got davante Adams they really don't have a number two that threatens anybody The the tight end Jimmy. Graham has not been what you we all remember Jimmy. Graham is being Jones is a tremendous running back and then they go and draft. Another running back I. I don't know I I don't think you can assess at least from the outside. The Green Bay packers situation and go that was that was the necessary. Move unless this guy is just unreal. And I can't speak to that. I have no idea if he's a once in a generation talent then obviously if you believe that then you go get him but if he's not if he's short of that and then I don't know what you're doing with when you gotTa team that was in the NFC championship game a year ago and won thirteen games. That just doesn't make sense to me now. I mean the thing that Farve kept Harpen on or or falling on was what we were as well as the trading up you know at least back in the day Ted Thompson could say too far if he did which farve said he didn't that. Hey Look we had a guy dreux follow our laps. Who is up there? With Alex? Smith is a possible number one overall selection. This one they traded opt to go get him and you know. Dion did on the show A week ago yesterday and say a dog shouldn't be afraid of a cat and Rogers afraid of this guy. It's no significance of that. It's just that you and I also know that in this world at some point love is going to need to be evaluated to either flip them like Garoppolo got flipped. And that that Rogers could turn love in into Garoppolo playing like Brady did to use that as an analogy. But at some point they're going to have to figure out what this kid is and who he is and the question is why would you do that if fraud playing at the age of thirty six like we're expecting to to this fall? Yeah that's the part that doesn't make sense to me. And Yeah there are a lot of personalities involved in and who knows what goes on behind the scenes Mike McCarthy's now the head coach The Dallas cowboys and that marriage fell apart But my God I mean even if you even if you do the Garoppolo scenario what they get for him a second round pick so you know you you you can't really maximize I don't think What you could get for a guy that you traded up to get in the first round If he doesn't play and if he does play. Then where's Aaron Rodgers and I mean he's still one of the main stars of the League and it's still a guy that can shredded defense. Just give him a chance with with adding to what they have weapons wise. So I that was that was shocking to me. Joe Buck few minutes left with the voice of NFL on Fox and Thursday night football and we could go down to Dallas wormhole here in three minutes. We have left but it usually comes down to that week where you spend with the cowboys which is a Thanksgiving game. And and then the though new tradition in the NFL schedule the cowboys playing the next Thursday night against another team. That played on Thanksgiving. Everybody's got a full complement of rest in this year. It's Dallas hosting Washington and then visiting the Ravens on the following Thursday night. How what do you think story is going to be in that five day period that week period there joe? That's it I mean. They seem loaded and they got more loaded. They brought Amari Cooper back which I didn't think was a SLAM DUNK. And it's funny because when you go back to the beginning of last season we were firmly In the camp and basically led to believe that we were doing the week. One game that deal for Dak Prescott was going to get done that weekend. A week one and then it just linger lingered. And now you know here. We are and nothing still been done with regard to a long term contract and it's that shocking as well With the deals they have made you they. They found a guy. That's great front man for the organization. A wonderful young man and a really successful quarterback in the NFL. They're not easy to find. And so I'm shocked by that to There are a few things that make you. Scratch your head now. He's being unrealistic but I I think that gotta get something done. And we'll see you know if that allows him to relax and take up because I know for a fact. At least he told us they didn't talk at all about a deal after that initial weekend at the season for the rest of the year. So it just seems seems strange to me. Joe Appreciate the time. I don't know what it takes to get on a daddy issues. Your podcast with Oliver Hudson. I've got three. I mean I got three children at home. I mean you know you know what's going on with me. I'm I'm more than happy to appear. You know but I I know you got the celebs in the stars on. I understand well now. Hey don't don't offer something you can't You can't follow through on my way of you. Expect to hear from my people. I don't know I went aggressive on you with your pod and promoting your PA Oliver Hudson but it looks like that. No you gotTa See. Nance on you at the very end of this conversation out dropping bombs and walking away. Thanks for the time. Man is good to chat last night and today's well best to Michelle. That's your wife. All right let's get and To susie and man. It's exciting to talk about. This isn't it don't we? Can't you know what I said at the top of the show here today? Like people looking at Roger Goodell to try and get a vaccine for covert nineteen is just like. Let's do the schedule and if it needs to be addressed it'll be addressed but I'm kind of happy to do this thing right now. You know. Yeah maybe get Dell and FAO CI switch roles For a week okay. That's Dr covered on. That's it you know yeah. Cincinnati bengals select you oprah. Well apparently back. I had no idea that. Danny devito is suddenly doing the draft. That's very impressive. The I love it. Take care of yourself Joe. All right Joe Buck everybody voice of the NFL on Fox Thursday night football Jewish buyer there. Hey I just love I. Just don't like saying a minor JOE BY THE WAY FAO. She talks about the Washington nats that means that the Redskins we get a much better schedule. I assume he's DC guy. Run telling you man. That's the schedule Department Dallas. What's going to happen in Thanksgiving the whole country's Washington in there and then five days a week later there in Baltimore. That's it that's good. That'll be the difference between six eight or eight and six. You Know Eight. Four four zero four riches very much. 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The 2010s: Social Media And The Birth Of Stan Culture

All Songs Considered

18:11 min | 1 year ago

The 2010s: Social Media And The Birth Of Stan Culture

"It's all songs considered from NPR music. I'm Robyn Hilton I'm here is Sydney Madden Hey Sydney Hey Robin so over the next few weeks the NPR music team's going to be looking back at the past decade in music the two thousand ten's we're going to be looking at like the trends and the themes and moments that define the past decade and one of the things we've talked about a lot on the team at the time a cardinal sin in hip hop so instead of starting twitter beef back and forth drake drops a diss song called back to back so you have a user using the twitter handle at Weezer Africa badgered the band weezer into covering Toto's Africa it was this percolating on the Internet weezer finally relents covers the song and it's their biggest hit in years and years ends up inspiring an entire album of covers and kind of zestful career you have a bunch of examples throughout the decade of fans getting more and more integrated into artistic output a couple years ago a fourteen year old twitter received critically it's really created something called stand culture or stand him think of it as Phantom on overdrive so rings Weezer back into the forefront of popular music hit naked all these examples of fans kind of working their way into the way artists operate and make their music more and more musicians are taking ideas from with her fans where her fans will send her little bits and ideas and she'll integrate that into her songwriting like and it's fascinating to see artists Irwindale and he was complaining that drake was not helping to promote a song of his and he even through some subliminal shots claiming that drake had a ghostwriter and this is singer Amanda Palmer went on kickstarter to finance an album and raised one point two million dollars and throughout the decade she has created a relationship it's not just musicians but also music critics as well you know how fans can have so much power on social media that they can end up affecting the way albums and artists realize like I don't necessarily have to sell a million records if I have twenty five thousand people who are extremely devoted that can perpetuate a very very was aided and really carried into new territory by the Internet because what happened is every lyric of the song became thank of is the rap beef between drake and Meek Mill back in Twenty fifteen I'll spare you all the play by plays but basically meek got on twitter falls and that conversation started with a moment that happened about seven years ago with the artists Amanda Palmer here's Stephen Thompson explaining it in two thousand twelve the plans and it's not just using fans ideas to create music some artists have even used fans ideas to go after other artists one example I can late in the background and by the end of the year this song which was basically a soundcloud freestyle taking down Meek Mill was nominated for a grammy it has given so much power to the fan bases that it almost dictates what the artists do and that includes how they make music how they make their living and you talked with NPR Music Steven Thomson and powers and Joshua Boteh of USA Today about this whole phenomenon yeah we had a conversation about it all the peaks and the pit his Annual Festival Oviedo Fest in Toronto and what he did is basically made a powerpoint of all the memes and performed the song while the memes constant churn of like every time Weezer tweet something it'd be like you know what else you know if you blessed the rains down in Africa and it was just a funny little idea that just kind of kept amine fans created means to kind of gas up the beef and then it just became a feedback loop of making fun of Meek Mill you know and then after drake hell sure and she's not a black woman just very specific insinuations of black culture that she doesn't lay claim to glee about this song that garnered criticism it's the trap cadences that she borrows the production value of the incorporation of lyrics about buying hair Joshua I know as a trending reporter you've had a lot of experience in watching this covering it one of the biggest examples to me was this writer her name was Haniya being a critic then what people shared in the kind of glory days of Pre Internet music writing used to be that the critic was supposed to always be angus she's a British writer she's Ariana Grande Dame Fan and earlier this year when seven rings came out she was a fan but then she tweeted out a slightly critical comments have stands coming at your throat to the point where you yourself will be cancelled not so much the artists that you're trying to critique you know it's interesting Joshua I'm in Tallahassee if a fan is offended by something and artists does or something that a critic says they'll motivate and they'll go after that critic or that artist in Stan almost and she brought a small critique of her song and Nicki Minaj tweeted out her and all the barbs came at her she dropped the Song Chun Li off her album queen and this critic WanNa Thompson she's a huge Nicki Menaj family they want and what happened in this raby is truly a bellwether for stand culture and Internet culture in the new decade in general it's the first time a rat beef has a billion fans at her disposal can throw her weight down on one critic and something really similar happened to Nikki Menagerie last year what you're saying is how the critic in that case felt the need to constantly reiterate that she is a fan you know I am a fan that's a totally different attitude about a little adversarial or at least you know have a perspective that was different but now I myself feel this I have to say oh no no but so how are you underground day exploits her you know borrows from black culture sort of liberally and all these fans came for her like in mass so what was it specific ahead a fan and it was published all that afternoon I received some lovely complementary feedback from fellow writers culture in this way as well why is it such a big deal so some people are saying stuff about you on your twitter feed it has real life effects absolutely maybe Lana maybe you should read it more thoroughly I felt it was constructive discussion it was very overwhelming however eh objecting to the peace saying I really didn't get her making some specific objections which you know my heart sunk a little bit I wanted the Oh yeah I wrote a piece about Lana del Rey and her most recent quite amazing album which I love Norman effing you're a big I am a fan but it's become its own tragic meam the power dynamic the thing that really gets to me that Arianna Gandhi who and then literally as I was preparing to lay down for my night of sleep I look one more time at my phone and there's two tweets from Lana del Rey it just so that's what critic pointed out the critic pointed out the thing is like any sort of criticism the fine so so indeed for quite a while afterward my twitter feed became a scroll of look at a situation like this and say we'll words can't hurt you phantom has become this public stance that cannot be contained organization that offers intellectual stimulation and a place to socialize with smart people like yourself your high intelligence is the passport to compelling Mensa groups aw responding and standing up a lot of but you know I have to say there were just as many people saying Hey i read this piece actually wasn't negative that is another thing to think about when we're thinking about Santa Culture because a question someone might have from the outside you know someone who's not involved in popular with USA Today's Joshua Boteh NPR music Sydney Madden and powers and Stephen Thompson and when we're talking about this particular decade it has felt like the Mac essentially being stan has really big ramifications in real life ya in every to talk about the most recent history of this and something like this happen to you sometimes it can even get into dangerous territory where the stands can organize and find your home address or start tweeting or start posing I love now artists have been thin skinned from Omonia don't get me wrong but fewer artists are really conditioned to experiencing here mostly positive feedback from critics because there's just so much stuff to write about that it's easier to celebrate the an advance the stuff events and publications if you think you may be eligible for membership take messes admission test or qualify using one of two hundred other supervised tests that are accepted visit American Mensa dot com slash join to take the next step today it's all songs considered we're looking back at the birth and rise of stand culture in the twenty tens any tins will continue right after this short break it's all songs considered support for this podcast and the following message come from American Mensa the high I q artist to appreciate the fact that I appreciate her and I also thought oh I'm sure at all times I'm not really writing a lot of negative reviews omission is how I pan something right it has gotten to the point where I think a lot of artists what does of you or your child or significant other they can really tap into your entire life and livelihood but I think the thing is what people don't understand people who made wait could be in the past and it has a wider reach than anything fans have been able to do before end our conversation about social media and the rise of Stan Culture in the and criticism and even somebody as relentlessly wonderful as Liz oh she popped off really angrily on twitter in response to a fairly let's just think about that but you know what there's another side to this to where social media can turn the peanut gallery into group with a convergence of the rise of these particular social media platforms with the fact that there is now and this has been going on for a while but there's so much music flooding into our lives at I kinda got a one thanks God nuanced critical conversation but they are examples of the fans or the stands going at the artists themselves one example I complain out is the beehive the glass is fine thanks it alling review and a well considered review to yeah and was very very angry about it and I was like man what's what this oh it's not to suggest that Liz music does that really channels itself into cancelled coulter cancelled culture is just this phenomenon where if an artist whether it be a musician or comedian at a Satan won't Jamie every reason when I'm trying to make a sound siege for fame or would you be freedom plays going back to bet I got the drank emmy going back I'm going back to back has not heard negatively but hasn't necessarily experienced a lot of negativity from critics and I think that has made it again another element that has made it harder to have one there are tangible results in the wrath of fans get so great and it starts to really impede on what the artists can do and how well the artists so whoever does something problematic they get deemed cancelled and you know that means that the people won't consume there aren't any more people by their songs or their albums right so I was I was hot that day because I do not watch morning America I tuned in for her to learn plant based now cool great beyond but she's trying veganism sword clothing line not a fragrance four years ago I'm sitting here lighting toward more than men Another big last year was west and his Song Mogambo that song had a meteoric rise and even when he was accused way after hinting that it was supremely pissed off the beehive and her album sales actually dipped a little bit that week because of it so of domestic violence from former girlfriend in there was video to back it up it didn't matter it's like nothing could stop that song so there's a we're really derogatory towards specifically earl sweatshirt and tyler the creator and DOJ Captain Take that well she clapped back saying like I was young is chapman fall while he's plays piece of Lettuce Neighbors Nam me plays then before your comfort grade one plays who's Iran Nigga and or whatever one that really sticks to me from last year was this artist dosier cat she released this viral trending song called Moo- where she of our crucial arena for us to confront Challenging and even yes even transgressive attitudes another edition of this podcast but I also want to stand up for what some may consider outdated concept in two thousand nineteen which is free expression unlike these words don't mean anything and the wrath of fans really came back to bite her I've said this before I think cancelled culture disproportionately claims women artists we've seen this with so many other social media sites even like something like my space or facebook which is kind of taken a hit in recent years which there's a big wave of popularity back in I wanna say it was twenty fifteen beyond say she was dropping tidbits such she was going to make this huge announcement and she goes on Good Morning America and she announces Master's House to Quote Audrey Lord they're not taking part a system that's long favored male artists in lots of ways we can speak on that that's the whole speech to as it's not it's not a right

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