20 Episode results for "Irvington"
Moment of the Day (06/11/19)
"Will be after a couple of postponements the first softball game tonight in irvington, which for most is quite far for geo. It's seventy five miles from his house, and that you've also got the sixty three mile ride back and forth to work. So he is logging some serious mileage today. I brought up a website that would tell me other places. He could have gone in those miles. So, for example, the amount of miles, you do today, you could have driven to Washington. DC. And then some you could have driven to this lost in Boston. Baltimore. Why not help you back? Back back. Go go. Check out the, the Lincoln Memorial. You along. Big Arthington guys. It's a lovely town. But yeah, it was just far away, sixty four sixty four seventy three seventy three. Yeah. You could have been in Boston. Now I'll give them the best destination, that we discuss. What's that? Oh, ontario. I'm could get to Ontario Canada. What part of Antero provice the lowest part? But still, I hate your guts. Yes, he's not kidding either. And all of that is true, all of that. A lot of mileage. Yes. Very funny. All right. Thank you, Jerry.
Introducing: Nowhere Child
"Hi It's Greg Barrel and I'm still recovering from post hymie sentencing party. Our investigations of Heim should Dan for now. At least there is a new podcast from Australian and I think you should check it out. It's called no way a child and to tell you more. He's my colleague Caroline. Irvington William Tyrrell was a three year old foster child who went missing from from the quiet village of Kendall on the North Coast of New South Wales. No trace of him has ever been found five years on in the Australians latest podcast series no way a child we examined the chaos and confusion behind one of Australia's most puzzling mysteries. How can a small boy simply disappear. I think back to that that moment where I just wait I can't hear him. Why why why can't I hear him and I've just walked out and I just say nothing. I'm spacious walking around in a circle spot thinking where is he. Why can't I see him and I'm yelling out William. Where are you. You need need to talk to mommy. Tell me where you are can't see you. I can't hear you where where I was no way and I just just studying thinking. How could he eight because he just disappeared. I don't get it. I don't get it to him. Oh just search for no way child in your podcast <music>.
Discipline - Dealing with Life's opportunities to Grow.
"Hello. I'm sure Irvington Henny's and it's time for another in our episodes. 2 Chainz show Today, I'm going to look at getting on stock dealing with life's opportunities to grow life is a series of problems and the willingness to do the work need to change. Now someone involved in Psychology and mental health work. I have a school of thought that I follow in terms of my approaches and techniques and most people would say Well, they're Freudian or I can safely say that I'm Becky and M Scott Peck the author of the road Miss travel Further Along The Road Less Traveled people of the LIE. He was dead American psychiatrist and He was one of the first psychologist psychiatrist to blend and merge spirituality or religion in psychology. And that's why the book The Road Less Traveled was so profound. Now what I'm going to share during this. Episode is based a lot on what he puts forward about discipline. The need to be disciplined if we want to face and deal with life's opportunity to grow and lives many problems because as he put it in life is a series of problems to be solved and the only way we can solve a problem is to solve it. Now the Buddhist teachings states that life is about suffering. Which is nicely coined by Emma Scott Peck as life is difficult. Which is the opening statement of his International best-seller The Road Less Traveled. And follows that the great summary of life with this is a great truth. One of the greatest truth. It is a great truth because once we truly see this truth be transcended Amscot pay now Scotty is he used to refer to himself? Put forward discipline is the basic set of tools. We require to solve life's problems without discipline. We can solve nothing with only some disco we can solve only some problems total discipline. We can solve all problems. What makes life difficult is that the process of confronting and solving problems is a painful One problems depending upon their nature evoke in us for stration grief or sadness and loneliness guilt regrets our anger fear and anxiety or anguish or despair. Scotty put forward that these are all uncomfortable feelings often very uncomfortable often as painful as any kind of physical pain sometimes equal in the very worst kind of old-school pain indeed. He says it's because of pain that events or conflict in the genders in us all that we call them problems. Now, it's kind of put forward that should be able to get unstuck you have to be willing to deal with a few things to sort of responsibility or cognitive disorders in which you look at home you roses and character disorders delayed gratification. responsibility dedication to reality openness to challenge withholding truth and balancing I'm not going to be able to get into all of these but I'll try to explore some of them and for the first time since we've been working on changing making the approach change. I give you a series of topics that you can explore as exercises. So you can put in the practice some of this about getting on stuff in behavioral changes dead. So let's look at the main gratification delaying gratification is a process of scheduling the pain and pleasures of life in such a way that adds to enhance the pleasure by meeting and experiencing the pain first and getting it over. It is the only decent way to live and it's learned by most children quite early in life. Sometimes as early as 5 and one of the things that's card is a graduation is that most people who are behind bars. Never really learned the art of this and so they go through life on a series of problems the problems problem conflict with themselves and others with the law and that kind of thing and that's what I recommend the book The Road Less Traveled goes into more detail about delayed gratification now wrap up this episode by looking at responsibility. Scotty says cannot solve lives problem except by solving this statement may seem the article or some evidence yet. It is seemingly beyond the comprehension of much of the human race. This is because we must accept responsibility for a problem before we can solve it off. We cannot solve a problem by saying it's not my problem. I can only solve a problem when I say this is my problem and it's up to me to solve it. There we have it looking at disciplines. and different type of discipline that can be used to bring about behavioral change and to take on potential problems that can sharpen our lives and that we have to solve if we're going to get unstuck from situations or if we're going to grow as a person spiritually mentally wage emotionally psychologically. namastey shuttle Bye for now. I'm sure being the comings and you can get more information on my work meet the change change Clinic. Org. Y.
Podcast #275 - Choose Your Vacation
"They come back to. It's getting harder and harder to give a fuck about what I look like every day. No you we'll come back to the PODCAST. This episode is brought to you by the Skim. Get your day started with the skin in five minutes. He can skim the most important news of the day. Just go through the skin. T. H. E. S. K. I. M. that's two DOT COM SLASH. Jillian and your email sign up. It's completely free night. Enter to win. Two Hundred Fifty Dollars Visa Gift Card when you subscribe. Check IT OUT. Also squarespace if you guys looking to build a website do squarespace Keanu reeves. Does it so you should as well go to squarespace DOT COM slash angeline? Get Ten percent off your first. Purchase a website or domain or just check out a free trial. That is completely free. Hit the link down below to get started thinking sponsors spunk to I personally think your very illustrious stock of ones that you have in your in your closet has just been waiting. Its whole entire onesies life for right now because you are rotating onesies like it is your job yet. Why do you have to expose me like well? First of all. No one's I mean you're on camera and like we can't see anything they don't know it could be a cool shirt cameras work. No no close your eyes now. Just listen to the onesie. No it's it's I like it I like it. I love the way this guy I I mean. I think you want these. Don't really serve any other purpose than what you're using them for. Which is we're stuck at home and it's functional. Unless you have to pee or poo take all the way off to be. I just P. S. Which amount while. I just go. And there's so much fabric that it's just absorbs to liens no water on the four disgusting. I'm calling the police and let it let they said man police have pine strike oppose and emptied Hose Julian. I'm losing it a little bit. Yeah what's that thing? He he's been sensitive zone. We'll pet rat found. He wants a hug. He's he's ever sweet day. He started eyeing me funny when I was a rat fetal. Does he know that's a compliment? Okay when I was feeding him this morning. You know when you go to give breastfeeding Julian please. As so wrong and so many levels when I gave him his medicine this morning when you give him his medicine in a lot of dogs will it? There's a pill that they'll spit it out and they can tell you this in there. You gotta like Trim and Finagle Him and when Kermit I got diagnosed with cushing's disease I was giving it to him and peanut butter because I thought maybe he was going to be a dog. You had to trick and he always took it really. Easy was really good about it. Like I literally just throw that pill on the top of his like foods every day and every little speck of anything in that bowl little sprinkle it on top. It's a little piece of Parmesan on Pasta. And they eat everything naked. You don't even have to blend at. Yeah they're nasty and in fact if peach eats fast enough. Show get over to Kermit's bowl risk eating the mets no. I've seen her try and do that before we get to it. I went little treat. It's because she just sucking vacuum he did this morning. So you'd usually. I'm the one who gets feeds them. But this morning I slept in and you got up and fed them. I was hugging peach and I was like kind of like half asleep. I wasn't really asleep but I was trying to be. And she makes this noise when food is a presented. Even if she thinks it's presented a sound of its food because she's like salivating at the mouth and like eating nothing just getting her job warmed up and just like sectioning her tongue. This really strong and then she starts shivering and I was hugging her. I was really like because she helps me sleep so I was just talking and I just felt shaking and licking just like a monster like she was transforming from a caterpillar to not a butterfly. A monster. And that's peaches response to food. She will do anything for food. She has done anything she hasn't anything and I have to break things up for her because even though she has teeth and can chew she will sometimes eat things so fast that she doesn't bother doing or eating she just she doesn't show gun stuff carpet. Sometimes chokes on stuff because he only has three teeth so he literally doesn't you but she just eats so fast. I think she's GonNa choke every time like she might ch- scary and she's just like her daddy one of those bowls where they have to like work around it like little. We should actually so mad related but that would give us enough time for like Karma to finish his food and marble the finish his or she goes over there and tries it every day two times a day. She goes over there and she tries it and then for an hour. She's licking the entire floor. That whole room and sides wall. Anything might smell it. Entire family will be outside or in another room and peaches not there and I'm like she's in there looking the floor. Everything trying spent forty five minutes to maybe get one calorie burt. Meanwhile burning probably like fifty know. She's burning too many calories looking for calories. Oh God well. That's a mood. Peach burning too many calories looking for more calories send nudes. Stop me funny. Nah that's what you're once he says. But it's noodles so it didn't mean like nude photos in means noodles because nude is the first part of noodle. Don't smile like that. You want to go on a vacation. I would love to because let's go on a vacation time last year. You're on vacation And we've tried as adults because I feel like I went ten years without taking proper vacation like we traveled for work. We're very lucky. And very fortunate to go places that neither of US expected But they were you know for work. So you're there for whatever reason and the majority of your time. They're expensive work. Yeah Getting they're doing walk through. You know getting prepped. The day one day off in the location that you're at but For Ten years I didn't take a actual week off vacation aside from Christmas Which is give my soul you're usually hosting family or traveling to see family and it's not really don't really get any days off you're not driving or whatever but this past year last year yeah twenty nine hundred decided to actually like take a week off and we went to Hawaii and we had booked two months and months in advance or like. We're doing this. We had no idea what we were GONNA do. Once we got there we just book dead. Set all the dates. Like you know the podcasts videos. Just scheduled Al breaking everything and we went and I don't know what's wrong with me as an adult like. It's a normal thing to take time off weeks off. Take decisive so new. Just didn't do it here. In lovely ten ten would recommend and for those of you that do that already. Good for you on you should. It serves a very important purpose. And it's not just to go and you know do whatever. It's really good for years mentally ill. I got food poisoning in. Threw up for probably like ten hours straight and I still would rate the vacation as senator. That's how fun it was so it's a great vacation anyway. So this year we had This is the week that we would be on vacation Obviously no-one no-one is on vacation right now. Because we're all corn deemed at home Those of us who are being quarantined. And we've decided it would be a fun game to play well. I decided on my own. This this was all me. I didn't even consult you just did I was GONNA look up some extravagant vacations so we can all dream so we well. Let's all go on a virtual vacation together. So you do will be teaching. Pp you move over the one behind there you you you coming along with us on vacation. So why don't you just tell the move? Don't worry about as rude so I have five. We're GONNA I made a game out of it though because I thought it would be fun to not only review vacations and decide which one or the other but I was going to modify them a little bit. Throw a little twist on them. You Know Little Julian twist do you like maybe that no. It's intimidating intimidate my surroundings. Guess respect your own. Do you know anything but I think that Song Bird. That has a paper towel. Rowlands had thank you. I have a problem. I watch a lot of bird means so I have five different. I guess we'll say head to head like vacation matches. Kay I'm GonNa read you the blurb on I found it on Expedia as like an article Written by Lily Rogers about all these different extravagant extravagant vacations and what they entail legislative paragraph. It's nothing crazy in depth but I'll read that and then all present to you the modifiers that I have added to choose which one you WanNa go on okay. Does that sound good? I mean literally. Any vacation sounds great and some of us. I guess like it's somewhat of a vacation. 'cause you're at home like maybe you don't have to go to your desk job in your job so it feels different from being home but we would all like to go somewhere. Yeah so let's all take vacations together. Victoria justice. I think we would all like a vacation. Nice Me Babe. Thank you all right. So we're GONNA start in Aspen Colorado. Okay I already don't WanNa go not all luxury must be the waterfront variety An Aspen offers an ample proof though hotel jerome features a fabulous pool and it's indoor charms said spectacular scene gives the stunning mountain landscape. A run for its money. Speaking of run those at Aspen Mountain are legendary an appeal to world. Class skiers and celebrities alike for some was that word oppress Ki. Ay Prescott Nano ski you person for some FRISKY DECADENCE. Gopher cocktails and caviar or the caviar cocktail at the monarch and toast to figuring out how to spend a tax refund with APLOMB. Make friends with a member or join Amish Yourself. This is all of these are for only very very rich people. Okay okay so we can roast these. Yeah Join Caribou Club yourself where you should certainly splurge on some dom perignon heaven on earth. Spa Can sort you out. If you hit the slopes or the sips too hard I'll be hidden slips too hard probably till I get it. These are cured SPA packages that rejuvenate tired skin aching muscles. Basically they just said we all have hired skin. Wait so Jillian what these are all just like beyond a luxury vacations. They're all pretty luxurious. Yeah they're definitely like not your average. Akc chose extravagant vacations tissues. From so I can just I. Maybe I don't WanNa go on any well you haven't heard even my modifiers or the Finland opponent here. Okay Sarah Salga. Finland priceless experiences can be of the moment or result of careful planning. Hopefully you will find both in Finnish. Lapland put snowmobiling an animal tours with Lapland Safaris on your itinerary. And there's no telling what you'll see your feel out on the snowy land you can prepare for magical moments at Cox Latin Slot Tendon are Arctic resort in whatever form they take from Google glimpsing at the northern lights from a reindeer drawn sleigh or the comfort of private glass domed igloo to skiing the slopes at Saratoga. You'll surely experience extraordinary things k ready. So now you're you're voting between Aspen Colorado and Sarah Salka Finland and I'm going to read you what they didn't include so in Aspen. You have a private hot tub in your quarters. Bought the hot tub time machine. Chilean Ski Mountain has a minimum downhill speed limit of thirty five miles an hour. You go under thirty five miles per hour. You will be cited and you'll have to pay them more money for going slow also. There's no water to drink only snowballs for Finland. If you go out to watch the northern lights and they're not visible you must summon them with doing yoga all night can't sleep. You have to do yoga all night until the northern lights up here. That's how the northlands work scientist. You're required to take a Siesta inside a glue every day at two PM. Peng look at me Naked Siestas. Also every wall of your quarters in your house is glass and see through. So there's literally zero privacy. So where would you like to go? Would you like to go to the High Flying Ski Mountain of Aspen Colorado where there's no water to drink only snowballs or would you go to Finland where you have to take naps? Igloos seven the northern lights with Yoga. I'm not very bad yoga. I'm not going to Aspen. I do not want to ski period. Let alone no slower than thirty miles an hour. Thirty five miles east five miles an hour or I will die malfeasance. I don't know how to Ski. While you go fast. Do you want me to answer your question. I will die a not going to ask. I don't care if everyone seasoning naked. And if I had to do yoga all night. What am I want to see the northern lights? And I'll just sleep what you can't you have to do yoga knowing don't you literally have to also be arrested then? I'll enjoy my CSC naked glassy glue and do yoga all night. I'll just be a backwards person and sleep during the day but I want to go to Aspen. Go to Aspen. I'm not coming with you. I'm not getting in that hot. Tub Time machine a time machine from the movie time machine I got and also from the movie time into. I also don't want to go somewhere cold. I don't ski. I don't do winter so both of these are called location. I know I don't WanNa go to either of them. Okay how Rochester absolutely not. I would look can I answer? What if you ask me to want to even say I feel like someday it would be nice to travel somewhere cold to explore and see stuff? I haven't seen but for right now because it only take one vacation a year and I just started last year and this year. We can't go anywhere. It's still not quite what I want to spend my money on to go and do shows you hate both of them. You'll choose Finland. I hate both of them. But what about the caviar lounge in aspen does not may not excited? No no caviar lounge. No CAVIAR NO CAVIAR DRINKS. No what about? They have a new thing. It's called caveat to go and you put it in a Coffee Cup and you just drink coffee. I'M GONNA throw up okay. Moving on we are going between Carmel by the Sea California lovely versus Tuscany Italy Carmel by the Sea California laid back California charm meets the pleasures of the good life in Carmel by the sea. What better introduction to the area than through the Grande Dame of Carmel? La Playa Carmel? That's the same sentence. Once the palatial palatial palatial home in Salon of local artists. The Historical Hotel Oozes Classic California Comfort with its beachside location near scenic wineries and hiking trails. You like that. After a champagne. Brunch and a quick dip in the pool visit the shops at Carmel Plaza. And treat yourself to some tiffany and Co. make your way to Kush Day. Spa Kush Day SPA for a quick facial or book spa package for an afternoon of pampering before we call it a night. Let Lob Elena Transport Your Luggage. Too Skinny with handmade fresh pasta and okay more about the food transport. What did I say luggage? It's his transport your tongue. Tuscany okay. That's so weird that they would transport your tongue to Tuscany and then the next location. Tuscany like what are you making me? Choose BETWEEN FAKE. Tuscany in Tuscany. Abc Ideas Anyway Classic Pasta. You get the idea anyway. Moving onto Tuscany. Italy or you can see Tuscany in person. Eat pray love your way. Through this extraordinary landscape eat pray. Love your way through it which is both ancient and fresh all at once. Castiglione del Bosco is one of the oldest states. In the region and offers modern amenities invitingly warm sweets lazy gaze across the Tuscan Hills as you dine and swirl wine on the terrace of Ristorante COMPO. They'll drago achieves unlike levels of serenity on the onsite. Spas you indulge the sauna steam bath relaxation lounge and private garden. Take a cooking class. Rent a bicycle tests. Join a wine tasting tour fall in love with how wonderful life can be. That sounds Nice. We can I before you can be modified. Can I just like maybe react beforehand and give you my thoughts here? What Hell you're GONNA throw MOTECH? It's Nice I'm trust me. I'm I'm these are good. Go Melba youthful. Have you been there? Yes but it's on the way when we go to visit my brother Julian area. Okay so I think it's super beautiful but like I said since it's on the way where we go visit my brother I'm not sure that I would go there for lake. Because we live in southern California sure is a little too similar for me to like completely like I've gone somewhere. You know kermit. Don't get on the table. Sounds lovely though. I would love to go but I think I would rather go to Tuscany Italy okay. So that's your first impression. Yeah it sounds lovely. I've never been to Italy now. Let me add USA modifiers okay. Okay so In Carmel you're staying in an artist's home and the artists whose home belongs to constantly tells you the shot up loud Treat yourself some. Tiffany Co at the Carmo Plaza. I heard all of the shops are KARMAPA. Tiffany CO okay. All of them. There's not a single other business. The streets lined with ten. That's it now food. That's it possible legal in that county. What HAPPENED TO TRANSPORTING MY TONGUE? Tusk in your your tongue will be transported to jail if you have pasta. Oh so think about another cuisine. Because you ain't having no Pasta Carmel. That sad I love Pasta while now to the modifiers for Tuscany remember. It's e- love your way through this extraordinary Landscape while you're on your trip to Tuscany. You have to start every sentence with eat. Pray love okay. Okay I can do that. You can only consume wine out of camelback. Okay totally down. Watch me cooking classes that you take our top. I'm me okay okay. So you're onboard. Yeah Okay where's the downside rented? Bicycles can only fly all right. Fine go right on. You have to go for a rented bicycle ride by school. It says it says you. Can she achieves end? Like relaxation levels with a flying bicycle. Says all right. So what's IT GONNA be Carmelo? Anthony Casket. Somebody wants them. Possum I guy I want pasta my guy all right so you picked Tuscany. It sounds lovely. We'll done I would love to go to Tuscany squarespace. 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What a ski during your all. These skiing competition that draws the Krim elite sports enthusiasts. It's not too many sport. It's not too many athletic events that deemed the winner king but this is not an ordinary event so literally. If you're a woman you and this event you are king Horse racing art gourmet bites and flowing. Champagne have made this a-list winter destination for decades reserve a room at Badge Roots Palace. Hotel where indoor where the indoor pool has a Florida ceiling one hundred and eighty degree view of Guidon mountain scenes. You'll and you'll also find a water bottle tucked in near sheets at night. Keeps your feet worm a hot water bottle? Yeah that's how people used to do so not for drinking. No because I was like why are they talking water in your bed and also? Why is it warm? Am I right peach before retiring however wine and dine at the Dow Mulan An order a nightcap at the cozy local favourite polo bar is also on so rich with its convenient? Proximity Your Hotel. It's on the premises. That's what it says. It says that you don't have to worry about if the bartender has a stiff bore all right that is going against green. Witched Greenwich Connecticut K. With four beaches historical charm in Tennessee to attract the affluent Greenwich Separatist Greenwich. No I don't know I'm dumb Brain stop working long ago green witch. That's pronounced green. It has to be Knows a thing or two about living. The High Life Delamarre Green Rich Harbor Hotel will get you settled into a lush suite with harbor views. Order breakfast book spots remained let everyday worries become a thing of the past planet day on the Green at Tamarack County Club. I can't read Tamarac. Country Club Ortega tour of the Bush Holly House for some local history become a patron of the visual arts at Flynn Gallery than relaxed with a pint at the ginger man or craft a cocktail at the national before. Dinner at Thomas Angelman. I don't know what any of that means. Anyway go into Saint Moritz so what? They forgot to tell you was we. Can I react? Yes sorry I forgot. So there's a lot of content. I'm trying to do here. So what the Hell my first reaction is. I don't Wanna go either of those places. Yeah we know you don't WanNa go somewhere cold and don't WANNA go. I also like Aspen or a lot of these places. I get so uncomfortable if places are too because I'm not like a fancy people you know will. This whole game is wrong for you exactly like I. I have to go somewhere where I can feel comfortable because I'm not a fancy people feel that so I don't Wanna I would like to go to Switzerland but maybe not the fancy fancy people part. Can I go to somewhere else? And why do I have to ski? I don't want to ski or listen. You don't have to ski. I also believe that that word is pronounced Greenwich and. I don't WanNa go there because I had to go there multiple times a year in college because we played them in softball. I am certainly not getting on a plane to go vacation in Greenwich Connecticut. Because he called. It must be well thank you. You haven't heard what they haven't told you. We beat them. Saint Lawrence the only thing that's on TV at your local hotel or the resort is discovering competition. You can't that's all you can watch room. Service is only ice and northern. Humans are staying at the hotel. Just horses that kinds nice sounding pointer but so the only room services ice. You could get food somewhere else. You have room service and the only thing you can watch is the ski competition. Can You bring like Netflix? No because if you bring that flakes or a laptop you open up your screen and automatically the ski during competition. Bring a book. No they'll hack your book inside Your Book. Trillion. That's ridiculous. Well it's my game so okay fine. Young WITH GREENWICH. Every restaurant in town is a guy fieri franchise okay. It's kind of a bonus might be there. Never know how much will be able to another all the beaches are bottom nude. You literally will be arrested if you have pants on. You have to be bottom nude meaning. The bottom of your body can't have close. You can only eat dinner if you golf. Under an eighty at the country club you have to break eighty and if you don't you fucking get back on the course and break eighty or otherwise. You're not eating a liquor food. Good luck surviving if you saw golf. Welcome to Greenwich if you take the history tour you have to take a pop quiz and if you don't get an a you can't leave the museum so there's a couple of traps. I don't WanNa be bought of news. I'm on level hit Etienne goal. He might be able to hungry. They could probably ace that test. But for what's to go be bottom nude and you can eat just breaking eighty and then you can have all the guy fury food. That doesn't sound so bad because at least fries. I'll go to the first one you're going to go to Saint Moritz. Yeah so you're GONNA only eat ice. No that's not what you said you said only room service vacations are all about room service. So what are you GONNA do no? They're not I disagree. I think they are no. They're literally not. I think they are. Okay I think okay go ahead. Sorry all the guests being horses. Sounds Kinda Nice? It'd be loud. I don't mind maybe I'll go pet them but they're not in pens. Inland Hotel rooms care. They're not going to be comfortable. They're kicking the walls eating ice really loud because they probably ordered room service is going to be watching the ski during competition at full volume. Control this you might get through the wall. Pooping in their rooms. Your pupil just horse poop. Oh God twitching facing up. In the maintenance crew is also horses. The tracks of the elevator covered poop stops work fire departments. This horse everything in the owners. Who's no other people? Producer IS ON SKIS DOWN. All right fine next. We have park city. Utah whether you want to go to. What is with this woman that wrote this just? We just clearly wanted to go skiing. Really bad it's good. There's other places vacation. What about other things to do on vacation Asia with mythology she? I'M GONNA go ahead and say that she might have written this article remotely from her. Skiing vacation. Oh God whether you come to. Skier Explore Park City will treat. You can't do either of those park city will treat you with kid. Gloves Explore Park City. Utah King come here. After an unforgettable day skiing slopes or hiking trails. You'll relish some are what is Arin Iraq relaxing relaxation. Relax Relax Stein. Eriksen laws the five star SPA offers treatments such as ski boot relief with assault and honey struck. Stop You for one second. I'm so tired of her talking about. Okay this is all in like respect like we're roasting this a little bit. I respect this person. Would they do for a living joke? But I do not want ski and I don't care about all these spas. I decided a long time ago. I really don't like spas strangers touching you. I don't like being touched me. Neither is a cold hearted virgo. And I want you to get your hands off me because I don't know you. We had a couples massage on our last. I had to pay the whole time. He was not enjoyable. I mean it just. I wasn't the worst thing ever but I definitely like. I'm not the type of person who would enjoy that either anyway. I like it if you gave me and my eyes or like someone that I know. Gives me a massage? I don't we'll get to that I don't really enjoy a stranger's hands just like all over my body. It's very difficult for me to relax. Fair Enough Anna had the p the whole time they offer treatments such as Ski boot relief for the salt and honey scrubs soothing stone massage and the Aspen Oasis a warm body wrap and rain bath For a meal to write home about visit J and g grill. Will you be treated to beautiful views in a mind? Melting tasting kermit. What is he doing Menu Fox School of wine host events such as fine art whiskey and wine or get certified in to indulge in all three make to stroll down historic main street were shopping and dining options are prime. So that is going up against Bora Bora. Wow French Polynesia place. That's not a place to go skiing when you picture the perfect vacation. The iconic image of thatched roof huts over Turquoise waters. Probably comes to mind whether you know or not. You're dreaming of Bora Bora. It's it's home to such a two hotels such as the intercontinental Bora Bora resort and SPA. Which fits the bill. Exactly you can practically jump from bed into the Balmy waters and you can take a double dip in the deck pools that offer that some of the rooms offer continue your on water excursion with a private sunset. Cruise that feature champagne dinner on your own secluded islet spend an afternoon at the Bora Bora Yacht Club. Were you can feast on fine cuisine in Pristine setting all right any reactions before we board. And W Bora Bora. I WanNa go to Bora Bora in Park City. Utah you might rethink that. I THINK UTAH. So pretty. I've actually never been but I would rather you really never been. I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO UTAH. I WanNa take you in a camper van and we'll just drive through time so see. That's the kind of stuff that I would be down to. We can go in and we that we can go look at all the stars. I'm in the woods and I don't have to see anybody like I really like that anyway. I'm I'm a tree person okay. Are you ever disagree person? Sometimes I just I feel much more comfortable. If what you're wearing doesn't matter and everything just doesn't matter I agree. I'm much more likely to be relax. I agree even one note that we made after our last vacation resort was next time. We're maybe going to stay somewhere more private. A little AIRBNB or something because it did feel sometimes like people are get dressed up to go to breakfast and we're just like we. WanNa wear fucking book a mess among vacation not that. I don't look like a mess as it is all day every day but like you know. I want to continue that streak of hard work. I have going for me. Yeah anyway the only alcohol you're allowed to consume at park city. I'll go with Park city. I is ski shots. Not near Beer. no every every alcohol has to be drink in a ski shop ski shows. No it's when a ski ski with. Yeah has glued shot glasses on line of people that stand there and this didn't think it was called a ski shot. I think it is anyway. Water soda liquor wine all have to be consumed in Ski Shots K. The stone massages given to you by Nick Cage. Okay let him touch me. Platonic Lee on the back and the world famous shopping at historic main street is over one is overrun with rats. I don't mind that me neither so I'm trying to make park city more appealing here. Okay Bora Bora but did you do at night? The water T- turns and lava. Okay visit minecraft pretty much. Yeah lose your gear. If you fall into it you dive. The whole water turns into law that night. The only way to go to the bathroom ever is to scuba dive to the bottom of the water. Okay and use the underwater PORTA potty. I don't make the rules except I make the rules. You have to go to the bathroom at night. Then you S- scuba dive through the lava into the portable tells you there's a special portal where you can go just to the PORTA. Potty can amend that how about this in order to pee you have to be in the water so you have to jump into You can't get you can't get your business without getting wet if the jump in the water to be right underneath Cool and POOP And last but not least. You're there at the same time as a beauty influence brand retreat. Oh my God to Leeann. Fuck Dude. Who's on the brain retreat? The is anyone annoyingly. My friends Just all the media all they have. They've looked booked all of the cool spots and wherever you're staying having parties every night and you can't go and they're all blogging. Oh Barbara I am going to park. City scared you away from Bora Bora. Oh No. That's so sad all right Ching right Thailand versus Irvington. Virginia is next to Thailand. Talk too far. In the north of the country Chiang Rai offers a true getaway from the daily Grind Remote Lush and unique. This place is made for those who want a singular experience. Stay at the Four Seasons tented Camp Golden Triangle. I do we have to say at the foresees where you can meet. Elephants explore leafy jungles and survey the land from a deck hot tub of your elevated luxury tent indulge in massage in an open Air Treatment. Room doll schedule. A private yoga class at the SPA visit various tense throughout the property for meals with new friends and fellow guests or head to the wine cellar for a private dining party if the surrounding flora has you desiring another kind of green head to nearby Waterford Valley Golf Club. Oh I thought it was going to advertise. We'd for down links often. Yoga apparently are everywhere on vacation. People ever just like to sleep in and they have a thin Irvington. Virginia sleep through that book in Teatime Waterfront Charm and small town. Homies MAKE IRVINGTON inviting escape. Virginia's petty sailing golfing wine tasting and picking the mark are all on. Par are all par for the course in this historic village though small it packs a punch when it comes to the finer things in life stay at the tides in where deep soaking tubs a secluded marina refined dining in a therapeutic. Spar all on hand to melt your worries away. Walk into town for some shopping. Find new adornment for yourself or at home objects are or more. Pick up a gift or dinner. Pick up a gift or or dinner. Where the Dandelions that's weird Now that you've got duds what it duds. Is that things. Now that you've got the duds head back to your digs. Why she raining like this for dinner at the Onsite Chesapeake restaurant for the best meal. In Irvington Okay Chiang Rai I so you know how they said you're staying at the four seasons now. The five seasons ask the fifth season vowed. Yoga class is super private and personal. But also anyone can join for free and it's required to attend by anyone who wants to eat free breakfast. Buffet okay. The wine cellar has a one way door. Only God see you can never get out or you can just can't use the door honey. You Dig your way out something. Like a rat okay. Let's sounds pretty. Nice some pad. Thai just won't go to the wine cellar and won't go to the Yoga. It's private and very secluded but everyone who wants to eat the breakfast buffet months. Don't WanNa even the breakfast fe. You're required to go to yoga class of ti-time of the Yoga class. I do not have a teatime at the o clock. One Okay Irvington. The whole entire resort is escape from okay. I don't I've never done this gape room so I'd be down by trying to escape. I'd be down for at least the first couple of days told him. Every staff member is cost playing as Colonel Sanders. Don't mind that they will never broke character. Okay it's the same as saying that every staff member that other hotels a horse I feel like I could work around okay fine. They have a VR television viewing experience in your hotel. But you can only watch the Big Bang theory with Morse Code. Narration has audio track. If you look anyone if you look anyone in the is you'll get kicked out. Don't make eye contact not in Irvington you'll picture. Vr experience of Big Bang theory. And all you hear is but the laugh track is still their thoughts initial reaction also to Thailand really. Yeah okay even though. The fifth season is loud even though the fifties in his loud. Okay I don't WanNa be in a place where I'm going to get kicked out if I make eye contact with. Someone just wear sunglasses. Then they can't tell workaround but they don't really WanNa go to either them while you have to so all right. I'd still rather go to Thailand or Irvington. No so I'll see you in Everington you can go to Arthington okay. Well I'm glad you chose Thailand because Albeit Irvington. So Jiji's we're not going to any of these places because stuck at home so anyway that there's no place like home and I sometimes would just rather stay here. Well maybe that's that was. The goal is to as much as we want to all be on vacation. Sometimes you get that. We're lucky to be at home. We are located at home. I hope you enjoy the game I put together but anyway that's it. I wouldn't mind going hotel where all people their horses though would be. Good would smell awful but it would be good. Thanks for listening and joining us on this escape from our reality to a luscious vacation. Julian washes and extravagant go skiing. I hope she gets effort. Giving us an article about skiing that poor woman just wants to ski really bad Well hopefully I mean this is written in twenty seventeen. Hopefully she's gone on the slopes a few times at least since then I hope so anyway. We'll be back next week with another podcast. You guys enjoyed. Choose your vacation. If you didn't Kermit's fault Oh buddy blamed it on you and over you guys are all staying safe and keeping it together not losing your mind while stuck at home but we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll see next week for another soda.
The Lucas Brothers
"Detailed in the Lucas Brothers Vakhitov personal essay, our brother Kaizen is the reckoning of split trajectories. There's from their beloved family frightened cousins. A neighbor in the same housing project gardens buyers Kaizen becomes a big brother to the Lucas brothers after their fathers incarcerated, babysitting them and protecting them against bullies who tried to steal their bikes. And their storytelling. The Lucas brothers are transparent about how illegal activities are concentrated around guard inspires and how unlike hysen their ability to move out of spires. Gets. Job Promotion gives them access to a better public school education which puts them on the pathway to college and eventually law. School. Simultaneously, the Lucas Brothers are quick to critique their academic studies and specifically how studying philosophy adopting nihilism allow them to intellectualize their childhood trauma but not to confront it. Will deeply personal essays an expiration of how institutions academic and governmental fail individuals and specifically how the legal system fails black people. Look at what it means to love someone who has been written off because of their harmful behavior and how as towards the end of their SL, the majority fails to conceptualize the actions of the approach focusing on the facts instead of the causes. We invite you to listen to the Lucas brothers ring. They're moving and powerful SA ahead. My Name is wrong. I'll be policy on your host for the evening. I am Penn America's prison injustice writing program manager. I. Am an artist and musician, and I'm really really happy to be here with you. Tonight we're going to hear from the Lewis Brothers firsthand they'll be telling their stories and I'm not going to make up anything faked that they're not going to do even though I want. All right. I'm here shamelessly also plug my book, which hopefully will pop up on the screen. It's written for car parents by my wife Emily powder illustrated with love by me and approved by dozens of families talks about a girl going bizzare dad in prison. It's awesome that's almost say for that. But tonight, we are here because of POPs the club. which does amazing things with children all over the country All you POPs people. Out There, listening on the Cau-, I want you to stand your feet, copy hands do so within elbow the person next to you. Talk to your imaginary friend and be like Yoda's me I. got this all right I don't want to take too much more time I do want to thank all the partners helped, make this happen stream yard and all the people who put this together, and of course, without any further redo way way way there's people literally waiting until like push buttons and. Make things. Happen I wanNA tell you about the Lucas brothers a little bit. You might know them from their animated Fox, series Lucas Brothers moving company or their netflix stand up special on drugs or they're amazing appearance in film twenty, two Jump Street. These brothers are intellectuals, their comics. They're funny. They're incredibly charming and they are wrestling fans and I think that's enough. I'll be back later. please. Make some noise or like pretend to make noise for the Lucas. Aching thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having. US, and thanks pop up. Word Soaks activate is this is a real. So you saying. was. Braveheart right. Are you like no? No. No. No No, no. No I am undertaker Spectacle number one, you know. ME. I mean, does it get like metaphor? I was determined not to ask questions I'm so glad you're here I. Hope You. You're going to do like a lecture on. Philosophy right right now. Dabble in San Philosophy of Lantau story the best of our ability we wrote this essay a couple of months ago about our cousin and is his anniversary of his death coming up pretty soon. So we want to share that because we feel like it touches on a lot of important stuff that POPs cupboards. Thank you I'm GonNa get out of your way take it away and everyone open up your hearts and your minds to the amazing wonderful Lucas. Brothers. And again, everyone out there listening We really appreciate you guys tuning into heroes. Tell our story to the best of our billy you know. Let's not listening in watching. Already I. Think it was like the radio but Yeah. We just we have a lot to talk about we grew up in a family with an incarcerated parents father went to prison. We were seven, six, two, six or seven it. It's fundamentally shaped our lives for better infowars and a you know we have a cousin friend of ours actually but more like a cousin, his name was Kaizen he also grew up fatherless and I'm sure I. Think some of might have been in and out of your prison you time so. That had an impact on our lives as well e at a guy last year in that prompted us to to write this that. You GonNa Start I'll start now. So it's A. Sunny Day Myrtle Avenue at Everton New Jersey summer. Slowly winding down at school starts in a few weeks most summer days on the block folks chilling their porches enjoying the sun in the latest neighborhood gossip, embarrassed Turk ammonia AC- like bone thugs all seems right with world allow gunshot another shop another screams ring out across the neighborhood people run for their lives pack a man. With dreadlocks in his late thirties dressed in body armor and carrying a high powered rifle casually strolls down the block moments earlier he fatally shoots father to neck and he attends to kill more man aims his rifle at a neighbor of almost thirty years. Calmly pulling the trigger she narrowly evaded. He walks a couple more feet before reaching our childhood home a home, his grandfather. He walks through the side corridor connected to the back of the House patiently reloading his wife sirens blare is cops closing after today the man will be called a murderer mass shooter in a domestic terrorist. However back when we first met him in the nineteen eighties, he was just using cross. Called him cousin but he's more like a big brother test. We first met Kaizen. We all lived in an editorial housing project GUARD SPIRES to high rise buildings built in the nineteen sixty s alley enough. There were no gardens together now just concrete rats shitty elevators who was erected two years before Newark rebellion. One of one of the many race rebellions throughout the US in nineteen, sixty, seven, the president LBJ's warm POPs LBJ was hoping to combat indigence by providing affordable housing to the working poor I. Things Look Price. Our Grandmother, an crowder in her abusive ex-husband Willie moved to North from high point north. Carolina toward the end of the second great migration and accident seventy two more than five million black people from this out move north and West initiative lived on South Fourteenth Street in essentially war. But in the early eighties, they moved to the spires Willie grandfather renting went to prison for murdering his girlfriend at Church worked as a maintenance man for the housing project time reborn in Nineteen eighty-five crack had decimated the city and aspires transform to a hotbed for criminality dealer. So Drugs Hotel sunflowers. In his book United Senator Cory Booker the former mayor of New York wrote that the spires funk into the Drakkar people didn't even have to get out of their car to buy drugs, dealers cater to them with speed and efficiency that would have made McDonald's jealous. Eventually, things got so bad in inspires that cory booker stages now infamous ten day hunger strike to raise awareness in when blue points against longtime mayor sharp gains whom he battled in an epic street fight for the mayorship of north unfortunately, something of our family contributed to the decline of spires and. For instance, our debt helps facilitate the judge trade by Athas enforcer for prominent gang in the city from nineteen, eighty, five until nineteen, ninety one he and his crew fought for territory inspires while the US government ways of vicious war on drugs many people died during the war eventually dad got arrested for of gang related crimes leaving US defend for ourselves. In the concrete jungle environment that we bonded with Kaiser Attila Bachelor Titans Mom was addicted to drugs and his father build on him. He was a baby among data's ankle for a moment with sports close contact with this fence, he will babysit us when our mom had to work her second job at a liquor store. Strangely, Pizon wasn't the only eventually murdered. Guy By the name of Khalil who ended up killing someone after a dispute at North Bar nevertheless, they were exceptional babysitters, Khalil River run without uncle keep a legendary figure in the streets north with an impeccable sense of style and pension for women and the nightlife uncle Keith got arrested after shootout with cops in Virginia we attended his marriage store and Kathy in prison. Despite the location, it was a beautiful wedding. It was beautiful but they they subsequently divorced but we digress our fortunes changed nineteen ninety-two because Bill Clinton elected. We're actually kidding that dude was terrible Corbo. Is Policies lack of more brotherston while Lyndon play. As fact, fortunate change because we moved from spires into a three family home on your black very wet. In. IRVINGTON. As a township right next door. So we were able to move because her mom got a new job at the VA hospital. It was a safer neighbourhood inspires in only occasionally caught murder by the locals. Our portion of the street was particular merit of as most of the families owned their homes. Leading back to the nineteen sixty eighty. Kaiser's great grandfather affectionately. Great Great granddaddy owned a house. We we live in a world war two vet in all around swelled love watching wrestling. We moved into a warm room attic apartment on third floor where mom and at the same time ties in his baby brother alice of whether there wasn't really a grandmother but we just called the she was the daughter granddaddy. Yeah. The nomenclature in our families a little weird. We all they moved into the second floor when we move into the attic and after the move, we spent even more time with Kaiser. In across family. Yeah. We throw barbecues and play pick up basketball in a game called manner. In a man of player who knew how to locate screen heights by making it impossible to find him. Very we have so much fun in four-time was one of the few male figures in our lives to help us navigate the murky water being fatherless boys in Newark if because all young boys in a neighborhood looked up to I mean it was not to like about gears extremely charismatic guy he was very intelligence. He was just funny. He was the life of our life. Vinnie party is a gifted joke tellers will would an Kenya ability to mimic of its you'll limit got same. And he was also the oldest among the so of he was a natural leader and we all looked up to him and he led zero fear on some are bike got stolen by neighborhood bullied by the name of two year theater was using asks. Racing Terrible Bay terrorist a terrorist advice running crying Kaiser hesitate to go searching for didn't, and after a couple of hours he triumphantly returned with our bike and he made sure to beat the shit out appear. That's right now and no one ever still abundant not never happened because If you miss one of us, you mess with him, he was willing to defend a since none of our data around. Yeah. So. But things started to take a shift for Kaizen because dangerous stream there's only so much you can do with your hands. You know eventually decided to carry a gun for protection and we can actually vividly recall the moment he He showed it to see showed it to overnight. It was nineteen ninety-five. We just purchased gold front south for his teeth could because he was a was obsessed with the Wu Tang clan particularly those facing very quiet and they both work use. John Insulate Him. So a Kaizen obsessed over Wu Tang. We developed the ever lasting adoration for the more subdued Gangsta we eleven bone thugs, army caused some some friendly fixtures between the friction between the inner to yourself. For an entire day we debated which was the better group don't Doug Harmony Wu Tang. We'll chain the bone of bone those who came back and forth back and forth back and forth we advocate a phone naturally because we said, what are the odds of finding five dues who? who rapping singing in harmony at the same his it is impossible. I mean, as you have much higher chance to finding nine news kind of rat differently but living the same how how in practice and we also think we thought was more successful. Because they just want a grammy now and we thought that they were quietly more revolutionary intended IRAP stats but is in newly disagreed it. Did Not Budge UV argue that was more experimental an iconic he said that their fusion of consul in the five percents philosophy was a remarkable remark Williams also obsessed with the mafioso themes. The I'd be ratio story of in poverty to you know the scarface level. and. So we go back and forth. But going back and forth and those to women and children preferred bone the razor in most of the guys are preferred route. In. So So we're going back and forth. He playfully showed us his his his small stainless steel not might not done this. Time, we showed it. I'm millimeter gun small in Brooklyn ended the date. Yeah. Because in generalizing evidence should win debate right but in the hood guns from trump So from a four to six grade, we moved between urban episode publications voted northern. Most dangerous city in the country mom decided to get the fuck out reversal second migration we moved from North and so during our time there are mom remarried our stepfather in in except for stepfather and our Ahmad they had a pretty tumultuous like crazy physically got real bad the voice over sixteen. Yeah and but despite the fighting in our step that's addictions to various things doing Bobby Brown Bobby Bobby Brown and Colorado. I think you might have done. was. A lot of Bobby Brown man, but things were relatively stable for us for a while. Now, we finally had a two parent household and we go to decent public schools. Yup. In which we excelled academically but unfortunately, Tyson did not have a similar opportunity he stayed in Irvington in Newark and He finished high school but he he couldn't go to college his grades weren't good enough. You became involved criminal activity. So in nineteen, ninety eight, he was arrested for selling weed in schools on. This was his first arrest schools court sentenced him to three years in prison which the men's his molecules relationship with the criminal justice cracked. So Al Qaeda's struggled with the law. We continue to succeed in school and was released from prison in return to his way of life We were actually preparing to go to college at the College Jersey at TC in jail we studied philosophy. And as we became more meshed Western philosophy, we SORTA started to drift away from religion and spirituality, and we started to embrace atheistic materialism bordering on nihilism. We started listening to way too much. Into a ladder radio too much like. Listen to sound like as yeah. Yeah. So and so as we were listening to radiohead in a in a in our academic pursuits of brought us into contact with philosophers, such a certain Furka Garden Thomas Hobbes Emmanuel car, each of star choke move again. As. You're listening to ABC like as we were reading sat that. It was a combination of sadness but but tragedy back home with push us even closer to nihilism on. One of our favorite uncles are uncle out. He was you know he was a drug dealer for Parker yet he said he started chanting. Around. Just became he sort of became the main of up father figure in our night live but he also suffered from PTSD in various mental health issue right now he eventually committed suicide he killed himself he jumped his to his death from a high rise building during Sophomore Year of college his death fundamentally altered our perception making us more morose in. Selah you see existential ism of provided a comprehensive assistant to understand better the alien nation isolation in the sphere experienced by impoverished young black men in a largely fluent white world religion was inadequate. So philosophy sort of enable us to assess material conditions logically. But this intellectual understanding did not address emotional distress. You cannot rational you cannot rationalize away a painting trump. It will tear. It would appear that we enticing were worlds apart as we sat on manicured lawns at our college debating Conti in metaphysics privileged students walked life buckeyes great. The harsh winters of northern searching money for his growing family on the inside over we all suffer from post traumatic stress disorder as as a result of grown up in a war torn in the city fathers slavoes. We were both exposed to violence which had insidious impact on our psychological help according to the National Institutes of health inner city students that experience violence more likely to be depressed to contemplate suicide into view substances our issues with depression suicide in substance, abuse materialize. During our time in law school at Duke. nyu. kyw's instead the streets. Newark. People don't like to talk about me to help a job back in north stigma against folks openly acknowledged struggling with specifically they will be stigmatized crazy motherfucker Rather. than seeing the issue as a matter of agrees to community rigid iconic between between normal and insane no one wanted to be deemed mad. So instead of talking about our emotional distress openly in in a way, we adopted strategies to People have different ways of rationalizing disturbing thoughts in college. We turn to philosophy in sports ties in preferred violence drugs and alcohol but none of us saw psychotherapy if we couldn't afford now in this isn't just an issue on. The Hood is not it's pervasive throughout society at Duke, while you lost, but we saw firsthand howdy at least treated their mental health issues right our classmates heated a strict code of silence to avoid being perceived as weak in such a competitive environment nevertheless, significant number of them suffer from severe mental health issues in abuse substances. Few of our classmates in law school even committed suicide. In fact, we know more people who committed suicide from law school from the interstate. but during our time in law school the. Stress of it, the competitive, the competitive nature of it, all being being from where we were from in going into this new world law school week, we didn't know how to deal with it. We didn't have therapy. So we started to turn to drugs and alcohol the deal with our mental health issues in the stress, and it would journ jarring to study the insidious nature of our criminal justice system white law students. Some committed the same crimes land black people just yet. We can help consider the irony of it all as we consume drugs like what if the law was designed in such a way to criminalise black behavior while simultaneously decriminalizing white behavior the one hundred to one cocaine to crack ratio, which places tougher penalties on crack uses cocaine seems more plausible written by white lawmaker addicted to coke whom police who implicitly believes in white superiority. We started recognizing the hypocritical often absurd Wallasey of system wipes create, interpret, and enforce the law those violate the law deemed criminals there enough whites and blacks used drugs at similar rates yet somehow blacks are arrested at disproportionately higher risk for the Houston distribution drugs. How is that possible? It's only possible of criminality is embedded in the premise of robust loosest in other words if blackness is the. The mass incarceration generational poverty segregation in police brutality, necessarily follow. into the night as we started to question validity. Especially our drug laws is in was arrested for drug and gun related charges. He was a father looking to make money during the recession when jobs were scarce especially for convicted felons struggling with addiction and mental health disorders. So he's so we wasn't yet a perfectly legal billion dollar industry meanwhile as our depression and anxiety person one of US attempted suicide for the first time, and then the other one would try to. Keep things, balanced. Yeah. We dropped out of law school in developed stone, her comedic persona suggestive growing substance abuse problem. We pursued entertainment careers instead of therapy. We saw famous mask pain. Initially returns were stellar. We got into TV in STANDUP tonight show multiple times. We recorded our standard especially Netflix and we made a lot of money but none of that shit matter in the. End of the day because are PTSD remained untreated. So we continue to self medicate with drugs and alcohol, and we will spiraling out of control I mean we literally seeking to destroy ourselves at the particularly bad night growth in alcohol we decided to try to bribe who went to therapy for the very first time at the age of thirty one and are there is, yes, we do share their. We don't WanNa pay twice for the same storm She diagnosed with PTSD and depression. We took the verse Childhood Experience Quiz, which examines abuse neglect another hallmarks of a rough childhood. Our a score was eight out of ten in Additon a number closer to ten to the greater, a greater risk for issues like depression suicide ptsd in drug these meaning this might be the only quiz history, but which a high score mixture immediately want to kill yourself. That's crazy quits. But. You know. We have the fortune of seeing a therapist taken the ace quiz and having comedy Kaizen never saw therapist nor did he take the quiz nor did he have outlet like stand up comedy? Openly talk about his trouble, his mental illness remained untreated, which is likely why continue to abuse substances in openly star to discuss dying in a blaze of glory. There are many ways to commit suicide and one way is suicide by COP. In Wichita, person deliberately behaves in threatening manner with the intent of provoking a lethal response from police Kaizen will talk about going like scarface In most in the family thought, he was probably interpreting rap lyrics to literally despite several run INS with the law. No one thought. Of committing murder especially to kill another next door neighbor or not block whom he was friends, he was an almost forty year old father two beautiful girls love the sand. The embattled is friendships but the pressure is real sickness that can destroy any person we think after the death of his mother in two thousand, August two, thousand, eighteen, we believe Kaizen our cousin and brother lost his will to live sought to end his life when he walked down the block and opened fire in August two, thousand and nineteen. Final time we saw cleansing was a made third twenty nineteen if you must first debt will performance standup comedy North in front of our family. We hadn't been back in a few years. So we did a thirty minutes set touching on issues such as drug abuse in suicide recorded Komo. Once said there's only one really serious fills up problem that suicide deciding whether or not life is worth living this to answer the fundamental question in philosophy. All of the questions followed from that in our set we asked ourselves if life was worth living and we ultimately conclude that life is certainly worth absolutely because of I love. It? You Love Missy you wouldn't WanNa. Is it worth a long? It's a long set of mediocre media but nevertheless. Get it. What did it? After the show we hung out with our father uncle Keith from early on in a prison in Kaizen often from out of town a father who turned his life around completely. He's sees no longer gang Vega. He's like he trains kids in boxing and he couldn't stay out for for late he had to go to sleep until you. Actually training. An Olympic Bucks our fathers training, Olympic vials like he he completely changed his life. S remarkable. So we were chilling we don't. Keith. Our homegirl enticing for a few more hours and then things started to get kind of strange. Yeah. Our cousin asked us. If we wanted to ask, you want to know if we wanted to go to place before. Look I don't WanNa. Have Sex s too weird watching yourself have sex greedy very. and so we we checked it his his proposition, but also happened we. Are Uncle Keith startup Thomas about his situation where cops he got into a shootout again to a shootout, which is ironic considering final moment with police at around midnight we hugged our cousin telling him. We'd love him in. Then he walked away into the darkness and it will be the last time we alive. On August eighth. highs walk down the block. On myrtle avenue as we all had done countless times as kids extensively the asked from for favor. His car was out of service in he needed ride to the ride to the shelter to get food somewhere along tone altercation with two neighbors we pushed him over the edge. He retreated to our childhood home where we had to it boning wounded on the porch years earlier to retrieve done not the stainless steel nine millimeter from two years two decades ago. But military great rifle fill 'em. He. Put on a bulletproof vests walk down the street kill two guys, Jason Cotto, a friend, and a neighbor of Tyson's attempted to quell the beef. But he got shot in the neck and he later died at university hospital where was born Kaizen subsequently shot everyone incite clue neighbors. He had known decades. AQAP. showed up and he shot the officer in the lakes for a couple of. Minutes in the backyard child home where we played basketball together ties in exchange close one hundred rounds with the cops from the police departments. He taunted the police every step of the way during the shooting in oblige, they shot causing multiple times as he tried to open the side door go home for one last time for moment everything when still as he bled out anything close to death. Stop. That's the top security perimeter around the house or final thoughts. When he died maybe about his baby brother, his mom starters will never know. It's easy to close the book on caused by concluding he's a lowlife criminal or thug who deserves that get our understanding of history loft lost fiennes psychology makes impossible include historians this implicit Kaizen. Committed a heinous crime, but his actions don't exist in a vacuum due to onerous racist drug laws restrict racial covenants lived in Hartsdale without any will our employment prospects he? So we to make ends meet like many others. He did drugs to cope with trauma of grown up in a violent inner city without a father. oftentimes, majority fails contextualized the actions of the oppress focusing on the effects. Instead of the causes a fail to understand the despair anguish hopelessness felt as a result of living in abject poverty while under heavy policing, it create a false dichotomy where either perpetrator or victim. George Floyd's murder is a brutal reminder that the entire legal edifice from slavery to mass incarceration was designed to break down black people and Brown people meticulously his accidental is a country made up of imaginary laws to aggressively protect corporations in property owner, Whiteman at the expense of black minds and buttons. This is the underlying premise of America. Until we project this premise dismantle the current system built new. Our country will continue to treat black and Brown people would enmity a white folks are allowed to violate laws ludar stairs in break our minds and bodies with impunity. You guys could be the people to change this Thank you. Thanks Robbie. rose. Is Not exaggerate I exaggerate Austin. So don't get it twisted and. I'M NOT GONNA do Bryant Gumbel postgame recap. All right. But seriously. Who? revealed so much honesty in. Personal Trauma I think everyone out there can empathize in some way with having gone down a path of making choices that. are based in trauma and. Trauma and I think you identified it laid it out there. I have a friend who often talks about the difference between understanding something awful and condoning something. Awful. I. Think you've made it crystal clear that we have to look at. Horrible deeds even our own horrible details. Understand them, and that's not the same thing as condoning. Killing and murder and I wanNA. Thank you all I. Hope everybody encouraging everybody to put their hands together or make some noise where you are be like Yo yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah saying. But you may. You may get the point because we did. I didn't have this perspective as I was turning to drugs alcohol until a pleasant day what he did and I saw what he was doing in like Holy Shit. I don't think it could've been me like a we came in the same environment and I'm doing things that I never thought that I would ever do in suddenly I'm I'm questioning like I just hold the mirror up. I don't WanNA end up like that. So I gotTa try to understand this guy from a different context knowing that he did something that was horrible. But trying to understand that he he grew up in such a wretched situation that bet that just didn't happen. In fact you dismiss how he grew up. You can't dismiss the fact that their policies in place that that force people. To, live a certain way and it's going to be a reaction if you live in certain conditions again, not for everyone but for some All right. All right thank you everybody for still tuning in. Give big you know send you love beams at your computer screens in phone screens from wherever you are There's a couple more things I think there is A. Creative. Gift of some sort. That, we have to present to you. I think. So I'm I'm hoping that this is a reality. Revenue Ashtray. That's amazing. Yes. Yes. Yes. There's more information on. It's not anonymous was painted by a pop-up Grad named. Rain Netto and. Thank you. Janna this. Beautiful. I love it. She knows about the jackets she got back. It's got the big. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA frame a frame with thanks so much. Thank you for your story. This is an amazing experience. Thank you. Thank you Lucas brothers I will never forget this. Thank you. All Man. Thank you for listening. Thanks to pops club for creating a form for kids all around the country to create to have these conversations to delve into honesty to create amazing writing and anthologies much like the Lucas brothers are doing to showcase. The amazing talents like Caleb and. The way brothers at the beginning and Kyla NHS Thank you keeping Kenny again for your amazing amazing stuff, I want to also thank all the partners who helped you all. Are. Working. 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"Twenty three points this is. Npr live from news. Eddie eight seven in houston. I'm gail delattre. We're working to get more information about a large plume of smoke on the north side. This evening there has been a fire in the area of irvington and bennington as the houston fire department with covert rates on the rise. Here in texas. There's now a lot of focus on bars and nightclubs bar owner. Bobby hugo says other cities have a distinction between the two kinds of establishments. We don't have that here. So i do think that people are perceiving all bars to be problematic when it's really clear that most bars don't differ. Dramatically from restaurants are operating but large nightclub to. He told us to matters at local bar. Owners are having to choose between adding food service or closing for a few months and he says not. Many businesses can handle that financially. Environmental groups say the texas commission on environmental quality needs a stronger response when it comes to air pollution. The state is now rolling out a fleet of vans to monitor pollution after natural disasters but dr elena craft with the environmental defense fund. Says that should just be one. Part of a comprehensive plan other things that need to be considered be enforcing air permits for example conducting investigations of facilities tracking mission events. That kind of thing after a string of chemical fires for the past few years harris. County says it's also working to provide more real time information on emissions meanwhile houston-based occidental petroleum says it has a plan to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by twenty forty energy reporter. Kyra buckley's says it's the most comprehensive plan among us companies investors have pushed companies to come up with robust climate plans. So he put together a pretty slick video announcement focusing on plans to store carbon dioxide underground in west texas oilfields and then use it to increase pressure and hopefully production. But that's going to be an expensive process and debt. Heavy occidental will need investor support after recording more than three billion dollars in losses. Last quarter eighty five on the u h campus. I'm guilty lauder news. Eight seven support for npr comes from npr stations. Other contributors include jones day in integrated.
Frontlines with Joe and Joe- Men It Is Time For You To Get Your Hands Dirty
"My father was given a half basketball scholarship not to go to a fancy school, a division three school and his father wouldn't pay the other half he had to go to work. They knew what it meant to sacrifice. My generation does not and I think what I see amongst my peers is they are not willing to even embrace sacrifices in their own marriage that I. think is at the root of a lot of the problems a do you see that in the men that you encounter bolt that are coming into the religious life as well as that you encounter on the streets That's a given. You just look around me call me generation is a me culture. You know just do it. You know it's Nike's Nikes motto. Is. All about just doing what you WanNa do in the everywhere hearing is all about you know personal freedom personal autonomy. It's my body I do what I want So of course, we come across a Lotta people and I just a bit of Marriage formation and my first question to any couple that sits before me WHO's preparing for marriage is this what is the essence to you is the essence of marriage. and. Not, one couple out of the box ever gotten it right And the essence of that is sacrifice. Like they say fifty fifty, you know you have to work things out together. You got to communicate. You know they say some beautiful things but the essence of marriage. Is Total gift of self to the Other? And so yes. It's it's not a, it's not a modern concept. It's it's it's a foreign concept and even repulsive con- concept to some. So yeah, it's one of one of the major obstacles that we have to overcome and you know that's that's part and parcel with religious life as a matter of fact, when I joined the community back in two thousand and one three days before nine eleven. I came to realize very quickly that Every. Every young man at least and even other people but every young man should either go through a boot camp. Or visit. Because here is where you learn to get out of yourself. Here's where you learn to take to be become more beating others. Here's where you have to lay your own desires aside and learn to live a better life. A perfect life and life is not about us we are not God. You know the the the universe doesn't revolve around us and to live in in more perfect truth. Is Free that's real freedom to live in truth is freedom, and so the farm is hopefully designed in our minds at least and we already practice it in our community is to help the minds form a outward-looking of life you looking outside you look I you're looking up. Then, you're looking at others how can I serve others? One of the lines are using in community that is so powerful is. Anticipating another's need. Some Bila. It's talked about in our community we were formed nece love when we're at the table and you know there's something pepper shakers down on the right and the brother on the left loves salt and pepper and. Salt and pepper. Shaker. Winds up in front of his played before he even knows it. You know This is the perfect way to live, and so hopefully, we're gonNA help many young men get out of themselves in to reality get into real life get imbued with a Christ centered. Cover the Christ centered on across I have this huge cross sitting next to my my my pillow that I look up when they wake up in the middle of night there is you know and I, I, want the sacrifice that image of the sacrifice the greatest sacrifice be performing every day you know to to keep me on the same track also. What's interesting is that you think you touch on one of the biggest points there is and I think it resonates Joan I, it's a recurring theme on our show. We talk about we really need to educate particularly men that what they consider to be freedom. Is Slavery. And they just don't realize that when they're sold particularly in the area of sexuality when they're sold sexual liberation. They're they're being made into slaves and they don't even realize in for us. We need to step up let the no listen if you think you're liberated because. The government of the secular world tells you are there. They're turning you into a slave young man and you have to make a decision. Do you want to be a slave to your passions or do you want to be a real man and control your passengers us your reason, your intelligence, and your will give it to you by God to live as you said, by Lewis a more perfect life. But a lot. But here here's the paradox of that. Is it this? This goes beyond the human experience goes beyond human understanding but when you start living the supernatural life. Sacrifice becomes joyful. The sacrifice becomes that becomes addictive. You start giving and you start feeling the way. You you you. You feel after you give that is the great giver that's the. That's the divine deposit in our hearts. When we give ourselves I remember when I when I joined the community, I had to give everything away and I knew a family with kids they used to added fifteen passenger van broke down they only had one little station wagon I had this brand. I had a car at the time that I gave to my my partner when I joined the community but had this beautiful big ten passenger van brand new almost brand new and I literally gave it to this family. And when we made the exchange, I handed them to key and I had to turn and walk away quickly because I started bawling because I felt better than he felt when receiving the van. And this divine exchange you give of yourself in God gives to you and fills your heart with joy and if people could taste this, they would get addicted to a sacrificial life. I think that we used to see that in big families I. Know You come from a big family father Louis I just had one brother I know Father Glenn has two other brothers That was just enshrined in families and I. Think that's why you saw more vocations because family listen I mean my mother used to say they grew up for four girls in Irvington New Jersey. Father worked two jobs. She say I had one draw never mind room. And one draw that's so sacrifice was part of everyday life. Now, everyone's got their own room. Everyone's got their own TV. Father Glenn what's your thoughts on that? Well. You know the very word you know sacrifice. Comes from two Latin words, sacre and fought today. Basically means to make holy what to do something holy. And and we know that at the very center of our Catholic faces the holy sacrifice of the mass and it's funny even that name even that word has been somewhat ushered out even Catholic spirituality, and so you have you know you have the holy meal or you have a gathering or you have whatever it might be and yes, it is those things. But at the very very core, we worship God by by participating in the holy sacrifice of the mass, which means that you take something and you if you will you destroy it, you break it. You you let go of it and you offer it. This is all the ablation and so. You know in Brooklyn we have is saying you probably wait made its way over to Jersey to Josie you all. Click you get nothing for nothing. To get nothing for nothing, and so you have to whatever you get or whatever you get to what you put into it, and and that's say La Vida that's life, and so we do hope that that the the farm becomes a place where we're guys were they. They have a sacrifice and and and. And you don't and to suffer. To suffer means to allow its to permit to suffer and we'll have to all of us have to learn to suffer well to suffer we all have to suffer, but you have to suffer well. Our Lord suffered our lady suffered thing Joseph suffered. The only the everyone suffered but see but they suffered well. Which means that you don't complain that you trust that you hope that you wait and and. And then you you soak it all in prayer and you offered every day to the Lord. Hopefully, if that's at mass, it's a wonderful thing for the Lewis and I do this every day in in a quite literal way we we we we take all the prayers that people give us and we put it on the Patton and poured into the Chalice and lifted up the ablation or the offering and and and the sacrifice. So Zo. So the bread and the wine is is is changed and something beautiful and divine. Becomes present and so this is in life. We we give ourselves. We offer well and knowing that that this is a holy act and is God himself who who who does make things holy, and hopefully in the end, each one of us become holy. Father have you found the location for the farm yet? I'm glad you. I was just thinking that I wanna make plug for the whole family farm you just the Holy Spirit on us Let me let me just say this first of all Yeah, we're. We're there's a couple of farms that are on our. We'll be call Cork Board. Right. So we just sent some digging letters out where absolutely looking for benefactors to help. purchase a farm. So if you have some big money out there, if you're a man of means, they're Nice Catholic man and you wanted to be part of the amazing movement please contact us at Holy Family Farm Dot Org all the information is there to contact and. So we can use one big benefactor or a whole bunch of smaller benefactors but we can't do this without God's Providence. We were totally relying on God's Providence, but I just a few days ago I had a new revelation about our lady that. Really blew me away during our midday prayer meditation and had mentioned the magnificant that our lady uttered and what is our lady do? The FIS, the Lord Right. She magnifies the Lord. So whatever we do in our life or the Lord is living in US working through us if we do it through our lady, our efforts are going to be magnified. and. There's this this to me like I never I never saw in this light, and so I wanna I wanNA begin to every single little thing. Through Lord through the heart of his mother so that my little dime is going to become a dollar. You. Know my little. My little one movement is going to become an earthquake you know to our lady can do this. So in light of that. I am now seeking it. If anybody can help me with this I want to seek the biggest statue of our lady that we can find to place at the centerpiece of this holy family farm so that everything that happens on this farm is GonNa go right through her heart and be magnified like we cannot even imagine. So if you want to help us with that, also please please contact us but We definitely need some some help and So if money starts really coming in were already in conversation with a couple of people about a couple of properties And it's all going to depend on the finances. So please plus if you can.
"And he houston's fire chief says the city's lifted a shelter in place order after a massive trash fire in north houston yesterday force nearby residents indoors. Multiple firefighter units worked into the night. Battling the blaze keijo you reports. The fire is now under control with officials monitoring water quality. The blaze happened at a recycling facility on irvington boulevard near the hardy toll road it speed large plumes of smoke which could be seen for miles wednesday afternoon. No injuries have been reported. Bond has been set at hundred thousand dollars for the man accused of killing houston. Police sergeant shawn rios. Meanwhile flurry and martin tells us suspect's lawyer lawyers calling for an outside agency to take over the investigation. Houston police arrested. Roberts solely on tuesday and he was charged with murder. Judge said bonded half a million dollars. Police say the least shot and killed. Hpd's sergeant shawn rios off-duty and may have intervened in a gunfight on. Its way to work on monday. So releases attorney paul looney down this narrative claiming there are no witnesses for it and he says more than a dozen police cars pulled him over as he was on his way to turn his mind into the harris county district attorney's office. They knew exactly when i was bringing him in and they did this and they could have only done it because their judgment in their perspective is is obscured by the fact that there's the death of one of their own looney wants to sheriff's office or the texas rangers to take over the investigation. I'm foreign martin in houston houston is murder. Rate has higher than it's been in more than a decade matt harrop tells us how a pandemic year has contributed to the increase in violence. There have been over three hundred and forty homicides already this year in houston mayor sylvester turner says last year. The yearly total was around two hundred eighty. It has been a painful year. Every one of these families is important to me. Turner has attributed the problem to economic hardships created by the pandemic and hp says they've seen an overall increase in domestic violence calls in addition to mental health calls this year. Philip lions with college of criminal justice. At sam houston state university. He says there could be a common denominator with this year's murders though it may be the quite a few of these murders are seemingly caused by substance abuse. Oftentimes they can exacerbate existing problems and many people Unfortunately choose them. Self medicate houston. First responders previously reported a seventeen percent increase in drug overdoses this year compared to two thousand and nineteen. I'm matt here of in houston for a review is saying is that it's received a ten million dollar donation to help students graduate on time. During the coronavirus pandemic the schools using it to get some students new scholarship up to two thousand dollars a semester per review says on average. That's how much students contribute to their education while working. It's dubbed the panthers success grant and the school says it will give out the scholarships to students who are on track to graduate within six years and students whose financial aid is insufficient partly. Cloudy sixty degrees at bush airport. I'm eddie robinson support for npr from npr stations. Other contributors include i-drive with remo pc providing remote access.
"Robinson a massive trash fire in north houston yesterday forced nearby residents indoors as firefighters battled the blaze into the night. Keijo you reports. The fire department now has under control with officials monitoring air and water quality. The fire was at a recycling facility on irvington boulevard near the hardy road. The hardy toll road large plumes of black smoke could be seen coming off the fire from miles wednesday afternoon. No injuries have been reported. We're expecting an update from houston fire officials at some point today. Bond has been set at five hundred thousand dollars for the man accused of killing. Houston police sergeant shawn rios meanwhile floor and martin tells us. The suspects lawyers calling for an outside agency to take over the investigation. Houston police arrested. Roberts lease on tuesday and he was charged with murder. Judge said bonded half a million dollars. Police say shot and killed. Hpd's sergeant shawn rios who was off duty and may have intervened in a gunfight on. Its way to work on. Monday salina's attorney. Paul looney doubts this narrative claiming there are no witnesses for it and he says more than a dozen police cars pulled him over as he was on his way to turn his client into the harris county district attorney's office. They knew exactly when i was bringing him in and they did this and they could have only done it because their judgment in their perspective is is obscured by the fact that there's the death of one of their own looney wants to sheriff's office or the texas rangers to take over the investigation. I'm florian martin in houston. Meanwhile houston's murder rate is higher than it's been in more than a decade our own. Matt harrop tells us how a pandemic year has contributed to the increase in violent. Have been over three hundred and forty homicides already this year in houston mayor said turner says last year. The yearly total was around two hundred eighty. It has been a painful year. Every one of these families is important to me. Turner has attributed the problem to economic hardships created by the pandemic and hpd's says they've seen overall increase in domestic violence calls in addition to mental health. Calls this year philip. Lions with the college of criminal justice. At sam houston state university. He says there could be a common denominator with this year's murders though maybe the quite a few of these murders are seemingly caused by substance abuse. Oftentimes they can exacerbate existing problems and many people Unfortunately choose to medicate houston. First responders previously reported a seventeen percent increase in drug overdoses this year compared to two thousand and nineteen. I'm matt harrigan. Houston the houston teachers. Union says it supports a plan to keep interim h isd superintendent greenie late then but only for another year. The union said it was surprised by Yesterday's agenda to Actually it's tonight's agenda item to name lengthen the sole finalists in the district superintendent. Search our of the group says stability would be a good thing for the district. Does asking trustees to revisit the idea of late permanently. I'm eddie robinson support for. Npr comes from atlassian makers of collaboration. Software like jira trello eighty three percents of fortune.
Origin Story | Chapter 2
"Just a heads up before we begin this episode. The Baron of Botox deals with difficult topics including depression and suicide. It is not recommended for young audiences stay tuned to the end of the episode for information resources for anyone who is suffering from depression or suicidal thoughts. Let's begin the show first of all when and go looking at art. I have to be moved by the art and it has to give me a good. I don't like Morbid art so much morbidity and there's so much they had us all the time in the paper so when I look at art i WanNa feel more inspired and I wanted to be up. I think but of all I think the bar the way it makes you. PPO and I think certain people are you in different ways evoke different emotions and I think it's something that you really can't even put into words. It's more of an imperative from imperative heard of entertainment. I'm Justin Harman. And this is the baron of Botox episode to origin story. I think just in vain. Nice to meet you. I'm Stefan Color President and CEO and honor of the Doctrine Skilling today and also taking care of the Dr Auburn Foundation. Stefan Kalou has worked for the Dr Brandt skincare line since two thousand and three the product line which includes a forty five dollar pours. No more refined refiner cream and a seventy five dollar magnetized age to fire mask. Part of the do not age collection has always been operated separately from the New York and Miami. EMME dermatology practices when we meet at a breezy sound studio in Coral Gables. Florida only a few miles from where Dr Brandt died. Stefan walks me through his sixteen year history at the company. He says he started in regional. Sales in Miami then became national sales director in two thousand five in two thousand ten. He moved to Asia to expand the brand as the international sales director. Then in two thousand twelve. He was named president and CEO. When Dr Brandt passed passed away in two thousand fifteen and Stefan became co steward of the entire state? He bought Maggie Maloney. The other state trustee andbranch longtime assistant out out of the operation as a beautiful ride because we were not vacancies. This company and sell a tragically would also trying to fifteen and during this whole time. This is what what any to figure out what I wanted to do. Myself in what we should do and pushes the company to make sure we can keep on the legacy of Dr Brent Seger fresh. I'm I'm sure you can hear that so I'm going to speak as slow as I can but right year Miami in the first run on first a new Miami because of my family the in France I came here also longtime ago I used to do modeling and modeling. Have Been Twelve. All of other Worlds Stefan tells me it was then twenty five years ago when he was modeling and finishing up school that he met the dermatologist through mutual friends. twenty-five years ago Stefan would have been eighteen. Which which would've made Dr Brandt forty five twenty five years ago Miami was quite small and used to meet some people over and over and that's where they get a chance to meet some personal doctor minded first time foodie front of France and old Ghanem's you know you get a chance to meet in different time and you start learning people in Gus wire stuff developing a partnership Russian sheep. We looked around the Dr Brandt. Skincare Line isn't just products. It's a holistic approach to taking care of yourself. He tells me he. Dr Brandt Sherrod this same philosophy and that they complemented one another both personally and unprofessionally when we used to events. I think we're the best in a wall. We always thoughts. Maybe we knew you're in Nova life if this is what he was told me because we can connect Stefan wants to keep Dr Brandt memory alive through the foundation. He created in two thousand. Fifteen the foundation's purpose purpose he says is to quote. Elevate the dialogue and remove the stigma surrounding mental health. is anyone can create someone who tossed forum the ordinary and create something inspirational. Something beautiful in a video posted to youtube a year after after Dr Brands. Death entitled the Dr Brandt Foundation. It's defines turn to be in front of the camera. I'm like the casual and Lo fi videos from Dr Brands. Living Living Room this spot is slick and expertly produced a camera. Sweeps across modern living room. Estefan does yoga and nails ahead stand on a gleaming white floor. In another scene you shown lowering blazer over a starched white shirt and meeting his own eyes in the mirror. Then he's shooting down the highway in his tesla breath the Miami cityscape gleaming in the background. And it all feels like a compelling commercial for a very sexy car and then there's the voice over over and never realized our difficulty could be to move and a friend especially to recite it is fitting that is hard brought to describe sometime. We should go back and have done more to help. But now it's a both looking to feature and helping in over in need. He has not been easy known vase in even longer nights but every tried to keep his legacy lives. Stefan doesn't even like to use the word depression. He thinks it's too loaded too charged with negative connotation. He tells me that it's been hard to be. The Guy Tasked with keeping the lights on that there were difficult decisions to make and debts to absolve. He says he didn't have time to properly greed. Ah I I'm the one phoning open the garage. I was supposed to do yoga female in the morning and found him this by there. Were people in the hours. Watching aims on was quite difficult. Because does the way I seeing the last and I was devastated bets. Honestly I'm going to be honest as is my first reaction whilst to keep everyone together because one was funny solve for me. I would think he more rationally at this time in. I realized that that took me probably more than a young to start three to grief about what happened because I was finding on so many directions saying time. Yes it's been a struggle. Oh because life. They don't teach you how to be ready for so to ask but from a business side just also tell you is nothing was playing and I didn't. You don't know about that song so we have to figure out what to do. Meaning the bank stub the critic line because everything depend on one in unique man. I tell you find that my sense is five years later. People are still angry with him. Many including brands personal art dealer. Paul Frank McCabe don't understand why he would make the executive decision to auction off a collection of some two hundred pieces put together over more than twenty years barely six months after his death. Stefan Stefan says he didn't have a choice though as a sham. Because for me I wanted to keep the hearts and obviously umbrellas. The Arts may be showy museum. That's both of his legacy but he was pure financial reasons and because all the debt that he has. And that's what we did and that's why we have to to sell it toward the end of our conversation. I asked the one thing. So many have wondered did Stefan a married French model turned skin care line. Exact with two kids carry on a romantic relationship with the single gay and twenty seven years. His senior Dr Brandt I know Golo people talk behind because obviously what a young guys was spent so much time with an older guy. I don't have any romantic but twenty. I Evan Russian she it's love. Yes certainly it's only a who love him as much as I love my wife and my kids and Stefan's not the only one I ask about this despite the fact that it's not exactly xactly cool to try and out people on the record but in this case with so many millions of dollars at stake and Brent was also reported to bring in an eight figure salary Valerie outside of product proceeds. The nature of the relationship seems relevant a month before I met Stefan. I asked Dr Brandt friend. Garin the celebrity celebrity hairstylist to explain their dynamic. That was the most asked question after Fred. Di Everyone say what I heard that he was. You know an Isis says you can hear everything you want. You can make everything you want but I am I am I am one hundred percent sure that was never a sexual relationship between Stefan and and and Fred Dad is what people want to believe and I i. There's no way there's just no way I just know from being a gay man and I know that I had admiration for someone in my mind. I wanted it but down deep. It wasn't it was just that they were my friend and I had accepted that way. I think Fred met stuff on brought Stefan into his world and Fred knew do that stuff on was straight and got married and had children I think he created a world which I totally understand stand is that he put stuff on in charge of his skin care line and he told me several times James he said I just want you to know that Stefan his children his wife are my family. My family does not exist for me. My Real family and I never dug in but I understood what he meant. He created a happy family for himself. He was godfather to the both children. They were always there at holidays and you know how he might have been mesmerized by Stefan because stuff very handsome man but I actually believe he knew his place and he knew that it wasn't a it wasn't going to be him and stuff on. It's an interesting proposition. A classically beautiful young man serving as the face to Dr Brands Empire. It's like Oscar Wilde's Dorian Gray in ageless idealized version of himself. In so many ways Stefan upon Kalou was a walking embodiment of the kind of natural beauty and sex appeal patients. Hope to achieve by seeing Dr Brandt the kind of natural booty and sex appeal that if we're being totally honest no amount of money can ever convincingly replicate a month. After I met with stiff on a Miami I connected with Dr Brandt's that's colleague. Dr Jolie Kaufman Doctor. Kaufman has a blonde lob and round high cheeks attempt version of Dr Brandt signature. Or what New York magazine once dubbed the new new face. She's one of those rare people who feels like a friend. The first time you speak with her on the phone Dr Kaufman spent years learning from and working alongside. Say Dr Brian and his Miami Office the same office she continues to work out of but is now called skin associates of south Florida. The two were close. They shared it a lot. She says the day he died. Dr Kaufman went to his house and sat on the stoop while paramedics removed his body. We had been playing phone tag for weeks so when we finally do connect. I'm somewhere on. I ninety five with my husband and our two small children who I probably kick out of the car immediately. Ask Her about Stefan. When you worked with Dr Brandt? Were you familiar with Stefan. Did he interact with the practice at all. What what exactly exactly as his role being the part of the skin care line? How does that sort of dovetail with what you guys were doing? You know what I think are totally. Pass him on this. Yeah Oh you don't want to touch that at all. Oh my God. Yeah no that I'll have to be off the record at a later date. Okay Hey this is something. I was warned. What about when I started looking into this story? Their secrets their factions. Many tell me that Stefan andbranch longstanding assistant Maggie or arch enemies. I was not able to reach Maggie for comment. 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I think in Fred's case because what I picked up it was maybe shabby your but I don't have to send he reacted so much to the shabbiness. It's my sense when he talked about his parents was that there was little communication that he was left alone a lot. I think he early on was perceived as weird weird. He seemed to have a longing for a family background of later closest. And I don't get the sense. He was remotely close. I the parents. Frederick Sheldon brant was born June twenty-sixth nineteen forty nine in Newark New Jersey. He was the second son of Irving being an aster nation quits. Brandt Irving was a veteran. He served as a private first class in the medical department during World War. Two together the branch ran a candy store in the predominantly Jewish and suburban neighborhood of Chancellor Avenue Irvington located about five miles outside of Newark. The Candy Store and young reds affinity for sweets would later serve as anecdotal fodder for his famously disciplined. Lifestyle in his book ten Minutes ten years he writes when I was little. There is nothing I love. More than stuffing myself with sweets. Candy made the day complete as a Katie says. He was addicted addicted to Orangina Soda and chocolate ice cream which he would eat by the carton. He writes in the book. My father was a diabetic who didn't take care of himself or modify his diet right as well as he could have and he died way too young from renal failure. Irving Brandt passed away in one thousand nine hundred sixty five. When Fred was only fifteen years old I'll let let his high school friend Alvin Phalsbourg set? The scene met Fred read my sophomore year. Irvington high school he said next to me in visit mildred rebels English class to seething charter wound up sitting next to him. I'm Cherie head straight. I said I'd be shocked. We had a name or it'd be planted anything. He was very very bright and he did have been of glow about him in the sense that he knew he was bright and he knew it was going places Johnson Goldwater and there are a lot of racial issues at the time goldwater voted against sixty of rats. Bell and we boarder Newark. This is kind of everyone's line ninety sixty he's seven. The monthly graduate was the Six Day War. The sixty war was Israel's brief but successful campaign to seize back land from its neighbors Egypt Suria and Jordan which resulted in a truce between the countries for Jews everywhere. It was a victory. Eric is it'll nation. Be Back all of its neighbors in a relatively short amount of time and it was great celebration at the time. I know he was part of that. Alvin is long winded. and has an encyclopedic memory for social context. He remembers everything from that year like the time he played brutus to Dr Brands. Julius Caesar in English class and Mrs Bell gave the boy who played caches a six inch wooden ruler for a sword or like the single time. He was granted access into Fred's private life. After Irving brand died in nine hundred sixty five remember over some of US went to pay our respects at the funeral parlor. Greta stay law. Heated seem to want people to visit her carrying around. So we didn't leap weren't doing anything to help the situation. He was upset as I mentioned in my email even having a lot of difficulty finding people who can speak to his origin story so to speak. I've tried to be in touch with his brother. Paul I don't know if you knew him but I didn't know he had a brother. He did have a brother. They were not very close close. I gathered that his family. I don't know he was with his brother that he didn't want anyone to talk about his family ever. I don't know why even when he was young. Oh Yeah I don't know why Alvin says if Fred had close friends. He doesn't know who they were. He says he never knew personal stuff about him. What music he listened to who had a crush on or if someone had a crush on him? He says they lost touch after high school but that that was an atypical of the area. Or the era most people wanted to leave Irvington getting out was kind of general. Mo nothing about him. They didn't come back. I mean we wanted to get on with things. We're looking forward not backward and they were so how much stuff in the world as you. Getting drafted Vietnam was on everybody's mind like trump is now every day was yet NAM. Something rather either demonstration Gratien or somebody who was getting drafted or someone we knew had been killed. I reached out to other people who are in his class IRVINGTON. A guy named Alan Rosenbloom who is is in the Political Science Club with Fred and Alvin wrote back that he didn't really know him. Alan even reached out to two other people in the group neither of whom knew him either. But in a yearbook a picture of the club from nineteen sixty six. There's Fred Brandt standing in the back row wearing a pressed white shirt skinny tie and Tinos with the preppy belt. He's skinny. His dark hair is short and parted. He's craning his neck. Just a touch to look a little taller. He smiling the finding information about Fred Brands. Formative years is difficult as they told. Alvin I've tried and failed to connect with his one older brother. Paul from whom he was estranged range for most of his adult life I was however able to get in touch with Paulson. MICA MICA is a documentary filmmaker. His latest robbery the heart which which he says he spent ten years making is about a small town in Germany rising up against anti-semitism a gofundme page for the film lists over forty screen engagements across crossed the US mostly at public libraries Jewish community centers and synagogues. It's raised fifty dollars when we meet for breakfast fist. In New York's Greenwich Village back in May the first thing that strikes me about my gut is how shy he is. He's short a bit stocky. His head is shaved anywhere. A rubber pride bracelet and t-shirt that matches his grayish blue eyes. He doesn't make a lot of prolonged eye. Contact did was dad's rift with his brother. Mica who grew up in Connecticut wasn't all that close with his uncle. In fact they only met once when Mike was in fifth grade the impetus for the reunion. It's something out of a Tom. Hanks movie we had a writing assignment. There's like a pen pal kind of assignment to do and I had known and had an uncle who had never met and I was probably would say ten years old time maybe eleven. I don't think he's he's ever seen any of us at that point so ten or eleven year old Mike Decides to write a letter to an uncle. He's never met and a few days. After he sends the note his father receives a phone call days later on. My father would probably not talking with each other probably several years. I don't know exactly how many years might have been ten years or maybe just a a few years but quite a bit of time he had called my father and said Oh you know obviously a letter from her son and it was like really nice like how you doing nice to talk to you again. It'd be great if the kids came down. Because he was Florida in the spring of nineteen eighty nine nineteen ninety mica and his three sisters. Go Down to Miami to reconnect with Dr Brandt. WHO's already a successful dermatologist? His Dad Paul Contract lawyer for Helicopter Company Pilots Prop plane from new haven to DC. And then the four miners catch a commercial flight to Florida unaccompanied. It's my first time on an airplane and he remembers one one of his sisters throwing up the whole right down Dr Branch housekeeper. Gloria picks the family up at the airport and drives them to the House and awaiting freshener freshener. That evening when we got in and very warm and receptive you know welcoming guys just so happy to see all of us and they're just so happy to be there and we immediately. We saw like the resemblance. My father had 'cause they look physically some more and then you know. He explained to us that you know He. He works a lot and what it really have too much time to hang out except for evenings when he got home and worry over would be like taking us out and show showing US Germany and such so the following day or took us out and in the evening when his uncle gets home from work the family reconnects and it's nice one night they ordering a pizza another. They'll watch a laser disc. Mica who raised Orthodox doesn't read too much into his uncle's lifestyle. There's men around but nothing pervy happens. He tells me until many years later when he begins to question in his own sexuality but by then his dad and uncle had fallen back out of touch. Michael regrets not having the opportunity to connect. And you know over the years I always thought about it and wanted to you know. See Him and talk to them more and everything just never had the chance. Unfortunately so in Michigan very fast for me to hear about what had happened to that was really Kinda mad at myself for not you know making the time and not having more the opportunities to spend with them That I could have had could have really built up a relationship with my uncle that I think would probably have been very helpful for the both of us. 'cause I myself you know dealt with a lot of issues of suicide as a child teenager and loneliness not feel loved and such like that Mica says mental health issues played his part of the family tree. The family was strict. Communication wasn't great blowing up in my nuclear family. A couple of did have some mental issues. You know there were can cost you know interventions things like that we were all very aware. Serve it some of US still deal with it. Nowadays that was tough to grow up kind of that environment to be dealing with that and depressing. Talk doc better word and I think I kind of had my father's persona where I kept in a lot of things. I didn't really talk about things or voice by opinion. No growing growing up so it wasn't really until like I was in college or adulthood that actually saw counselor and they got a lot of frustrations out. You kinda just talk about it in a very you open environment for lack of better words. Mica won't go into the caused the rift between the brothers because he'd rather not speak on his father's behalf he says it does tell me that as the years went on his uncle's ever changing face was a point of contention for the family aware of his practice. And did as you know other people and then eventually did so physically. I mean my nuclear family is very naturalistic and holistic. Kind of people. So they kind of you know frown upon that stuff for lack of better words so we didn't really like look upon it positively. I would say we still up opt-in and Mike accepted and everything is goal by you know just didn't understand it okay. So you're probably wondering what Fred. Brandt used to look look like before. He discovered the benefits of injecting. His face with botulinum toxin in other substances. I'll tell you this. It's hard to reconcile the two versions Asians. The difference is so drastic in fact that two days after his death Daily Mail dot com published an article with the lengthy headline picture exclusive about-face outface colon famed plastic surgeon. Dr Brands High School photos. Reveal the handsome student. He was before he became the object of ridicule on Antena Phase Net flicks show. The article includes side by side. Comparisons of a blonde botox. Fred and Fred from his nineteen sixty seven yearbook a senior year portrait shows a white button down and black bow tie with his brown hair parted neatly his nose. Prominent but not large his lips closed in a small. Smile are naturally attractively plump. He's elegant an intelligent looking. Dead Ringer for Jared Kushner. His Childhood Taber. Roberta Abramson distinctly remembers him as good looking. Roberta is eighty two now and gives as the kids say Zero Fox here. Che's Freddie was wonderful. Boy He was the most beautiful child you could ever look at the at curly blond hair and bright blue eyes. Isn't I know Freddy ready very well. We grew up in six family house across from the school that my aunt don't and his did. He had the candy store on the corner and and ride opposite was our apartment and contrary to what almost everyone who knew him as an adult tells me that he was scarred by his upbringing. Roberta remembers his childhood though quite modest as idyllic and let me tell you I was there. The day Freddie came home from the hospital he had the most loving wonderful parents. His father was a veteran. He bought the candy store crushing the school. The kids would come over for lunch and ESTA would cook hamburgers in the square skillet. His parents were very diligently and they were wonderful loving people and whoever wrote that crazy article. I don't also was info aware that he had parental invade. Attention is an imbecile both versions of the story. Confirm one thing Fred. Brandt wasn't going to let his past dictate his future. They had a kitchen behind the store. They had a living room that even as big as my bathrobe thrown here where I live and they had a room and that was a pullout south of for the parents and the boys had bed. And that's how we lived. And if you ever saw how they lived it would boggle your mind and how far requirement. 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78 Closing the Clothing Loop with Cynthia Power, Director of EILEEN FISHER Renew
"You're listening to wellmade a podcast limi but the people in ideas behind your favorite online brands i'm your host stephanie and go cynthia power welcome to the show thank cynthia so you are the director of eileen fisher renew it's actually a company that has come up oftentimes on the podcast and i was not super familiar with it but it usually comes up in the context of sustainability but it's a woman's where brandon you're in charge of the renew program which is aid program where you allow consumers to bring their clothes back to to you and turn them into new closed resell them and you know recycle them in different ways is that just a rough description that makes sense how do you describe what you do and and maybe eileen fisher as a whole yeah so i mean fisher has it's been around for almost thirty five years and we make high quality time less beautiful comfortable clothing so i am or starting out with a really high quality very simple pieces and like you said yes we are customers bring back there close to a jar stores when they're done with them and then we take back and then reselling reuse them so what still in perfectly good condition we will resells wiccan liv on as a piece of clothing floating on on what is damaged we reuse remake i'll talk more about that but yeah that's the gist of it and you've been with eileen fisher for almost twelve years that's pretty impressive thank you i always wonder if that's a good thing or a liability but i'm going with good thing 'cause i'm i'm a one trick pony a little bit well what has you so the company's been around since nineteen eighty four but it over the past twelve years what have you seen change at eileen fisher a lot i mean so i started when i was twenty two guys like literally a week out of college i'm very proud of that size secured a job in april of my senior year of college and i think when i started at the company i was one of what felt like i dunno five people under the age of thirty which is probably an exaggeration but the i think the coming around seven hundred people when i started end there were very few people under the age of thirty and i was twenty two so i felt like a baby for sure and i think one thing that's changed a lot is the company has hired a lot more people like basically a lot more millennials my age and so that's you know change the composition of the company the company has grown quite a bit we have a around twelve hundred employees ployees now i don't remember what are sales were when i started maybe a few hundred million now they're closer to five hundred million you know the the leadership of the company has changed kind of multiple times in were going through another big change right now which is always is interesting it's a bit tumultuous but i dunno never a dull moment i guess what hasn't changed you know i would say for me what hasn't changed as if this feeling of like i have a lot of people here that i know really well that are kind of like my work family and that is nice it that feels consistent while things kind of move around us and i also feel like i can really be myself here which hasn't changed and i think that's really it's a luxury and it's also like i her probably why i've stayed for so long as i i feel like i can be very casual and not formal end very relaxed in the way that i am and it it works like i couldn't i don't think i would do very well in a very buttoned up environment and there's a kind of yeah relaxing us here that i feel like i can just be me which is awesome what drew you to joined the company right out of college i was looking for companies but i was excited about for whatever reason and i was looking at women's clothing companies and i thought i wanted to work at this very i wanna work very glamorous like volker you know chanel if something and then i talked to somebody who worked trailing fisher i'd never even heard of the company i had written my thesis about kind of feminism including how clothing represents women in society and i was just fascinated and i i was so excited about this company that was all about women for women by women owned by a woman that was exciting to me about it tell me more about your a uses i'm curious to learn more about that oh it was fun i wrote about women's clothing in american vogue magazine before and after world war two through the specific ones of chanel and your and kind of looking at like before before world war two and you know in the early nineteen hundreds like getting rid of the course it and what that meant for women how showing their bodies in a different way kind of did you change x societal expectations of them were challenge societal expectations and then after world war two there was this huge like return to a kind of course sets and end quote like traditional femininity and women you know going back into the home and having children and and how how is that all kind of looked at in american vogue as the years went on there's been a lot of movies and documentaries and things about that over the past few years are there anything that you found striking that resonated with you oh i mean i loved the movie cocoa before chanel where the audrey touch you that's what i was thinking of when you said that yeah i thought i mean i love her and i think that the movie kind of paints i think it really interesting picture just a woman who's willing to challenge kind of societal norms you know i i think there's a lot of things maybe that we take for granted today but even just you know like she's wearing like men's pajamas and things at her soul mainstream today and i wonder how much of that is really because of her and women like her that were willing to kind of challenge you know what women were supposed to look like you know a hundred years ago an on and now it's totally normal thrown into walk around wearing the same things in men wear but yeah it did you find that you're able to express some of those ideas that you had from you know you're thesis and you're you're you're theories in ideas and what you've studied as you start working at eileen fisher definitely i think one of the reasons i got the job is because i was able to i i was able to talk about clothing and femininity city and feminism in my interviews and i think that went over really well with my first boss who was a who's kind of a writer and a feminist herself and you know like a a thinker in a in a storyteller so i think that helped helped helped me get my job in the first place and then i think yeah i think coming from that perspective there's a huge openness to that in the company and even if you look at like are ad campaigns over the years you know will have very simple tag lines like simply to be ourselves i'll send like women together and i just be idea but we try to make very clear and relevant is like feel good in your body in you're close like that's all that really matters feel good you know and you have to like you have to look look presentable but you need to feel good first and to me that's a really maybe it's just human but it also feels really feminists compared to you know when i see women like i have trouble watching women walking stilettos and i don't mean to be judgmental i'm just like i can't do that i have to wear sneakers because it feels really good or i watch movies are women earn course it then i just think like that boggles my mind and i wonder what i have been okay with that like when i have just done it or would i have been miserable every day i dunno i forget who said this but there is a good quote i mean i budget about the foot where industry being all about somehow making men in women's deep seem as different as possible when they're actually the same thing yeah that's fascinating i dunno stilettos i mean like i i wanna be really careful because i think you know the woman that love them and i'm more power to you i just i don't understand it i really don't and it kind of makes me angry but i'll stop there i i kind of i kind of agree i mean there's something about i mean i dunno this probably has been covered in in in psychological theories somewhere that i haven't read but it's it's about somehow making creating a oh you cannot run away you have to be like this person who is like weakened by your foot where in such a way that a yeah you're you're an object of a someone else's like control in a certain right right and i could hear my friends who are sloughed as being i feel stronger when i'm wearing stiletto so i'm wondering like say that but yeah i am also just enjoy the active walking so much that it's my only arm of exercise that i just i just wanna feel my feet feet on the ground and on on any fancy shoes anymore like all my fancy she looked like men's shoes because yeah gotta have a flat it seems like a sustainability has been part of the dna of eileen fisher from the start how how did you get exposed to that side of the company in in what were some of you're first responsibilities around it yes sustainability has been i think really embedded in the company from the beginning and not ads sustainability but just as like let's have i was really obsessed with just natural fibers in the beginning let's just have caught and terry cloth you know in a time when there was a lot of i think blending in nylon it's mannix and all of that let's just make a cotton terry cloth box truck you know i think there's a pretty sustainable choice at the time and over the years decision making has really been just like what's the best small choice we can make now in terms of the highest quality fabrics and what feels good against the body and like that so 'em then it became a more official sustainability you know probably in the last ten to fifteen years and in terms of my responsibilities i mean it probably start at more when i worked fry lena's her assistant and it wasn't so much official sustainability responsibilities but she got really really passionate about kind of be official sustainability while i was working for her and so that was really fun i got to be really involved at her and are teams that do you know oversee environmental sustainability and human rights and work with all of our production and 'em eileen like we went to china together and i got to go to india and you know just to kind of see a lot of are supply chain i was really i opening and 'em quite a privilege and so i think i got involved at that point and then in terms of like becoming part of my more official role when i stopped working for i lean and before i started working with three new i took a year and i kind of project managed dcf pf t h social indicators project we granted on award to three recent grads from a design schools they all happen to come from parsons and we gave them the challenge that was you know we've taken back all these closing then there's a bunch but we can't resell and we don't know what to do with them their damage closed and what should we do with them so as designed graduates like please create a a capsule collection that kind of fits with eileen fishers you know design aesthetic 'em end is made of of damage i mean fisher clothing and so i got to oversee that project for year which i think is definitely sustainability in was moving into you know the circular economy and kind of more of how we talk about or or they expanding definition of sustainability now and then after i did that for year 'em i moved into to kind of manage the every new program i wanna go back to what you were describing with sort of seeing the supply chain first hand and going to india what is it that you saw there the surprise you i remember having a really tough like listening to a tough conversation about wastewater from a die house yeah and where that wastewater goes on in this case it was going into like a local water table which seemed quite unhealthy for the the local people and trying to have a conversation with business owners who didn't necessarily see it as a problem and and or even trying to paint it in like a you know positive light and so really trying to listen and we're spectacle and also not be horrified and how do you deal with that how do you work to to remediate that or how do you change that i mean that's the first thing that came to mind when you ask that question you know big picture also what surprised me just in traveling to india and china is just first just getting a firsthand taste of a totally other culture sure and i'm just trying to understand it a little bit an end pick up some a few words or a few like physical you know sign language or whatever to be able to kind of show that you understand and respect where they're coming from and their culture and i that was probably what i enjoyed the most one of the things also shocked me about india is we work with some communities that do a handle on it you know all all across rural india you know i guess it's called cottage industry you know people are being very fine fabrics in their homes and a lot of times there's dirt floors and there you know cobwebs in the corners and it's like you they're making these pristine piece of cloth in blessed interesting environments and that kind of shocked me for sure but it is really amazing and a great experience before getting involved in all the packaging stuff here at lee me me and my business partner ran the company for five years that was producing sing fabric dies and we source a lot of art pigments from india and it's just what i like about eileen fishers point of view in in messaging around some of these topics is that it's our responsibility the as creators is manufacturers factors to put things in the world that are you know hopefully as good as possible in yeah because the end consumer when they go to the store and they choose like a blue garment versus the yellow garment from their perspective they're making a choice about color or aesthetic but they don't necessarily appreciate that may be one of those you know producing indigo in a certain way has a whole set of ramifications that might be different than producing a yellow pigment end in a way you know they're not necessarily going to indian seeing this stuff first hand but the people who are producing it kind of have the responsibility to do that and tried to do your best to produce something that is going to be kind to the environment in in yeah and so on so i think i think that point of view of of whose responsibility is it some people kind of say well you know then consumer they can do the research they can't figure it out but i don't think that's really true no yeah i mean i don't even know if they could figure it out but i don't think it should be on them i think like you said whoever's job this making the product that should be taking responsibility for what they're making i mean they're having an impact on you know the natural environment environment so they need to be responsible about that and then at the consumer side you know sometimes there's a choice like i wanna pay premium for organic or not and then i think you know i encourage and that's how i spend my money 'em but we have to expect consumers are you know myself included to pick the thing that is more aesthetically pleasing to them and hopefully also had the values behind it so i think it's really important when you find companies that like make beautiful things that are very responsible i love shopping for those companies 'cause you kind of like you know they did their homework and you don't have to be so concerned about who made this how made and all of those questions so let's go into renew a little bit 'em how did that program start i know no that just to give a little bit of of contacts that branch has its own a e commerce site you can purchase directly from there and it's it it's actually producing now millions of dollars in revenue which is pretty impressive but i would love offer for you to describe kind of renew as a whole and and what it is yeah sure so that e commerce site 'cause out kick myself i don't see it as eileen fisher remix dot com and when you say millions of dollars i can actually give you a statistic restarted the the tick back program in two thousand nine and through two thousand eighteen we have sold over seventeen million dollars a in resale 'em in resell alone we've taken back about one point two million garments i mean fisher garments andrew we have resold over four hundred thousand pieces that's awesome yeah i'm very proud of that so we knew which started in two thousand nine i under the name green eileen start it as like an employee he take back program where employees were just giving back they're closed and we were selling it in one store in the lobster in irvington new york and quickly kind of gained a bunch of traction in two thousand two thousand thirteen we did a great campaign on but we plastered on a lot of her store windows it said we'd like are closed back thanks very much and it was nice of bold and graphic and that kind of brought on like onslaught of clothing that we just finished digging out from underneath a you know five years later well and so the program you know grew at time between two thousand nine and two thousand eighteen we now have to renew stores that are just dedicated to resell honored percent dedicated to resell we also have three new product in all of are outlet stores in select mainline stores mainland island fisher stories i mean and then we also do you know pop up event sales and so that's kind of a the distribution side i kind of oversee the program as a whole and i think about the strategy and the distribution and big picture and i kind of you know work with waves are leadership stakeholders and make sure that we all know where renew is going are trying to go and everyone is on board and how we gonna get there that's kind of my my role in terms of how the program works you know you could bring in ireland fisher garment in any condition back to any i mean fish distorting the united states will give you a five dollar gift card in exchange for that government and it can be imperfect condition and it could be he ripped to shreds as long as it has in ireland picture tad will take it back will give you five dollars though we have to warehouse it's all those clubs go to one of two warehouses one in seattle in one in irvington new york which is where company headquarters are end ida's houses we we determined we have a first or there's a lot of sorting involved as you can imagine and for anyone who's ever been to like a textile sorting or textile recycling plant we have a first store or we determined is this good enough to be resold or not not an if it is then it's dry cleaned and taken to it's appropriate kind of inventory holding location if it's not good enough to be resold then we have a whole other process where 'em it's categorized and we have a bunch of cool are in deep projects kind of in the works which i could talk about but about fifty five percent of what we get back is actually imperfect condition and we can clean and resell 'em so i think that's also a great testament to the quality of the close on the people well you know known them for years or ten years twenty years and in sending back to us in there in perfect condition so we resell that kind of fifty five percent and then i'm really excited also one of the kind of innovations i think that we've been working on an on what started and are seattle warehouse was on a product category called not quite perfect an it's this idea that after the fifty five percent the we get back it's imperfect condition there's another if they twenty twentyfive percent that has a small flied might have like a smaller a small stain earth naggar something but it's totally wearable you may not even notice the fha it's all it's it's what the kind of close but most people where all the time have some small fox an m and those are actually wearable unsolvable as well so then we have a a kind of second category of not quite perfect where we get you know be ideas to keep the closing used as long as possible 'em we used a lot of natural resources to make you know to make the closed in the first place so so they should be used as close for as long as they can be on that that you know additional twenty twentyfive percent we you know everything be on that as we say to damage to wear or to be sold on and so we do some donating stuff that's still wearable but on sellable and then we do we do have some are indeed projects in the works the biggest one right now is it is a celtic project or actually creating new fiber skews skews me new fabric out of old closed and we've invested in some in some great exciting shouting technology and were working on on applications for home good added accessories and it's really exciting and innovative we also i have a programmer making new closed out of old closed we also have a you know 'em were working towards recycling are own closed down to fiber to be put into are a new collections like we we have something on are spring line right now that is i believe it's ninety percent 'em ten cell and then the other ten percent is recycled silk but we took back of our own soak garments we then had recycled and kind blended into this ten saw on fabric so i'm really proud of that because i i think that will grow more and more we wanna see our damage clothing become feedstock for i'm are main line there there's probably twelve different threads but i wanna explore there but i think that 'em you know one of the things that i i'm hoping to share with people in in this conversation is that you know the the best the best practices around some of these things haven't really been established and i think it can be kind kind of overwhelming for anyone who's looking to bring on more of this 'em you know this philosophy into their company it can be kind of overwhelming and some companies say hey were too big to do something like this or some companies were too small small to do something like this and 'em and i think that's what i'm interested in in you know as we explore kind of the operational side of how this works is just get your perspective on what a simple things that you could bring into you're company that perhaps like bring some of these best practices that you have started to develop in one of them but i'm curious about is off the bat is there anything that you know about the design process of the garments 'em that actually sets them up to be more useful in your part of the renew process let's see the i mean the first thing that came to mind is when garments have zippers and you know trim trimming on them or i guess it's trump anything that's not fabric when you get to the recycling fees all of that usually has to be removed so it creates like an extra step indie in the operational process of of reuse that is the first thing that came to mind so that's kinda fascinating because you're you're describing the complexity of you know when something comes back to the sorting facility they need to be broken down separate and all these different things was there ever something that you learned or that the company learned from that sorting process that came back to inform the design process well yeah i think well we're trying to get this kind of feedback loop on really in good working order where were taking things back and racing you know okay this t shirt we keep seeing this t shirt and the neckline as you know i like becoming on done or this fabric is coming back and it's always pilled in the same area or this is really valuable information for design and manufacturing teams and so one of the things that i think we really oh it to ourselves is to create more much more of a best practice i'm like a regular practice around what is the what is consistent information that we're getting back as we store through these quotes i mean i think one thing specifically like we have this silk fabric that we make that's actually the silk fabric that's recycled into the tons of fabric i was describing we make a lot of it and we get back and usually it's stained like what we've learned about this is that it's very rarely ripped 'em or snagged it's usually a small oil staying that is the reason that's somebody brings it back and is no longer wearing it and while we would love to keep that you know in use of the garment there's very little that we can do to hide the types of staying said that these garments comeback within so that's why it became the canada to be recycled into this this new fabric because we couldn't figure out what else to do that 'em to really hide those fans so you know it's one of the things i think in terms of i don't know if it's a best practice but one of the things were learning as you really have to take every fabric and treat it differently you know fill up a net so comes back with a different 'em damages ben woven so and and they're both very usable in different ways in terms of the reviews the recycling or or the next life is that those garments you know we get back cotton t shirts all the time and like the main issue with those is that they have arm pet stains and there's not a lot you can do you know so we're looking at recycling those you know into a new a new woven fabric that can be hopefully like a high percentage high percentage of her own recycled material or can they be felt it or you know so we look at each each fabric and and see what is inherently reusable you know how can we how can we were using on lennon is woven lennon is kind of a a miraculous fabric and it's one of v original fabrics but i lean had you know on the line thirty plus years ago and it's really proven itself both in the main line you know we consistently have a lot of woven linen offered for eileen fisher on but then also when we get back for reeves even if damage we're still able to to cut way the damages and use it in high a high percentage of it either for felton are indie or for are 'em what we call reese on collections where we make new closed out of old close so it's really interesting to see the value of each fabric through the lens end of how do we reuse does it drive on the company overall to try and use fewer fabrics or less colors or less a different styles yeah i would say were not there yet i'm hopeful that it will so to kind of put that in perspective like of everything we get back so like last year we got back about two hundred thousand garments we have uses or like next live for about a hundred and sixty thousand of those garments and then there's about forty thousand left in specific fabrics but we still don't know what to do it on because they're mostly there 'em stretchy fabrics sort of like multiple blend fabrics that 'em there isn't a clear no one's recycling them yet or not you know we can't figure out how to kind of give them a next useful life and so my hope is that moving forward that the company will adjust those fabrics to make them more usable in the future but i think were quite a ways away from that because you then you hit some business like rubs you know where like maybe we one of our best selling pieces is made out of a fabric that we don't know how to reviews so on the business side of it were not gonna not so that that you know garment it's hangar paychecks so then on the radio side of it we i i think it's really a creative challenge it's like what are we gonna do and we're kind of pounding the pavement looking for all you know any and all recycling opportunities and we just my team last last week met with the shoe recycler you know like we want if we have to figure out what to do with all of our stuff we don't want it ended up in a landfill i don't really want it ended up in third world 'em thrift markets i think we should really take responsibility for and say well we made it in the first place and so we're gonna figure out what to do with it at the end in a way that we feel good about a term that's been coming up a lot in the fashion industry but i don't think it really has crossed over into some of the other industries and where we leave here and start up land in some of the the other podcast episodes we've done is is circular economy in circularity yeah i would love for you to kind of describe that concept and how is that something you and the team particularly associated with do you have your own take on it yeah you know loosely it'd be idea the circular economy is that you know something is made and then we used you know it's either it's either parts were either we used indefinitely or make their way back into the earth friendly things that can compost basically that's how i would kind of phrase it i think it's you know that's very strict idealistic goal which i think some some of it some industries can really get there faster than others were could get there at all i would say for us the company were still kind of figure out you know where does the circular economy overlap but sustainability obviously they're very related but where we gonna put a stake in the ground as it relates to search or and then i think my team specifically the renew team is super super interested in in the circular kind of me but also i think the circular economy kind of is like a place like new innovative types of you know economy so the sharing economy they're renting economy the circular economy like how can we just be ideas just keep using the stuff that already exists that i think as inspiration that like these are beautiful close that were better very high quality fabrics and fiber it's like why wouldn't we do everything we can to kind of keep them in used as long possible in my mind you know i'm just looking at how can we give everything in next useful life whether it's being resold recycled turned into new clothing 'em you know donated that's the kind of big challenge right now and then in the future you know as soon as were offended me figure that out will be getting stuff back again you know from its somebody you know it's bringing things back that were already reese older that were you know already recycled and then we're gonna have to figure out okay we have a new set of challenges and how do we keep those having a next useful useful life and you have to kind of also confront like there's up cycling in recycling down cycling and how do you keep things at the highest value you know you don't if you don't really wanna take a bunch of like beautiful silk shirts and news them like scrapped and free installation that's not really the best use of a you know some beautiful fabric so 'em but it might be the best use of a like a hundred pairs of totally shredded added denim jeans that have no other useful life that we could think of are you know for example in the circular economy model you you know after the purchase from the customer you have to have collection points and then from collection points you know to a some sort of sorting facility a recycling and then wherever that goes to be turned into something else the thing they obviously with with eileen fisher you have advantage of of having a lot of election points other companies who are maybe primarily on line you have to do that through the mail or you would have to go to like a goodwill or some other place to drop that off i guess i'm curious is there any way that you found tim makes the collection within the eileen fisher ecosystem as convenient end as 'em you know user friendly as possible yeah i mean so as you noted you couldn't bring back early and fisher close any of are approximately sixty united states stores i think we have a ways ways to go still andy 'em collection for people that don't have access to one of those stores right now like you can send you a picture garments into one of are are where houses and we'll send you a gift card in return but i feel like we could make that a lot easier like in my dream every web order would come with us aid you know a return on the lope with postage paid vicious you know when you're when you're ready to send us any if you're only official closed stick them in here and they'll go straight to one of our warehouses and then you'll get a gun online gift card freer credit that would be amazing you know we're a ways away from that yeah i mean i think also people figure out what they wanna do with their clothes there there are a lot of savvy women out there that will so eileen fisher on threat up or local consignment stores because it does such a good price because the pieces are very time lesson high quality so i think some women choose to do that and others would choose to i'm kind of seek out the the take beck program through us because i guess they want the discount or a day one 'em should just know that they're being responsible about how they're closed will be treated for their next purposes the facility the filing for sure operates in irvington tin is that's that's where you're spending most of your time right the tiny factory yeah tell me more about tiny factory just give people context for kind of its size and the number of people who work there yeah sure so let's see chinese factory is i you could say the hub of the reader new kind of take back warehouse inventory and are indy and we have in total i would say they're less than thirty people working there it's in the ground floor of a big old building once was the printing you know manufacturer for 'em cosmopolitan magazine so it's kind of an old funky building 'em with all kinds of twists and turns but it's in irvington where i lean lives and she wanted she wanted this kind of are indeed tiny factory to be nearby anyway then so we have the whole take back warehouse area where everything is comes in you know you ps and it's twenty bucks is every day and everything gets sorted and everything gets sent out for cleaning or cleaning cleaning house and and we have are sellable inventory and then we have are unfilmable inventory which are like gigantic inventories i mean well gigantic contextual you were i'm talking about like a hundred thousand sellable hundred thousand unsolvable in so just just to be clear those thirty people they're the ones actually's sorting through those hundreds of thousands of items yeah and in terms of the sorting operation like just distorting operation that's probably no more than ten people that's pretty incredible yeah it is incredible i mean they tore through a lot and it is a highly manual process i think one thing that we are an end the sorting industry is you know trying to figure out how to make it less manual because it is like you have to touch every garment at least one when you know the way i think traditionally you think about manufacturing is like you wanna touch it as little as possible 'cause you know touching his time and time is money and so you know we have the first story and we have the second sword and we have a third story that is a little bit problematic in terms of money in an 'em labor and resources but it seems like an area where right now there's so much research happening around computer vision and stuff but it seems like maybe those those two worlds were quote crossovers soon yes that is definitely the hope and you know like there is and i've heard about kind of like x ray computer that can tell you exactly what the fabric composition is of something or fiber composition you know or things like that where it could do some sorting itself which would be amazing but for now it really is this highly manual process which i also wanna stay in the whole retail business reused business like i think there's something really beautiful about the labor their relation to waver because if you're not using new on like virgin material from the earth 'em that's great what you are using is labor an while you don't wanna have things cost prohibitively amount amount of labor amount of dollars it's i think it's also really cool but what you're doing is kind of creating jobs like you're not taking resources of the earth but you are providing work to be done and i do think this will be like a a a hugely growing industry for jobs on you know going forward i leave here in los angeles about you know a mile down the street from the old american apparel 'em factory which is now being treated to a mall which is interesting but there were something like i think five thousand plus people working there so so whereas basically 'em in in when the the factory shutdown 'em we actually had iris alonzo is the old creative director at american apparel on the podcast one of our early episodes about sustainability she you know express kind of just the sadness of like all those people people many of them had to go and take jobs at mcdonald's are different places where their skills that they had built over the course of you know thirty forty years were just not being used an end that there wasn't a new generation of of people being trained on these on these very specific skills and so i i definitely agree with that a i think there's an important component there yeah i i mean retail in terms of trends and four in forecasting for retail it's supposed to grow faster faster than brick and mortar retail which i guess isn't hard to do but like it's supposed to become a really 'em larger and larger part of the economy and so with the resale you have all of the all of the sorting and 'em all those those types of facilities that i think will continue to grow and hopefully it will continue to add jobs and then you have reused where you have you know design i think i see more and more designers i don't know if you've heard of zero waste daniel but he's a great example of somebody who's creating new product out of either prayer post consumer waste you know there's a lot of passion i think for younger designers of again how do i make something beautiful without taxing theorists limited resources you bring up a good point which is that when where where are your inspirations what do you looking out at the world for who are you thinking about win or reaching out to when you're trying to figure these things out because like we're talking about before the isn't necessarily best practices and so that you kind of have to invent it as you go along yeah which is part of the great the great part i think a lot of people that are attracted to working in this part of the company or people that are comfortable with uncertainty and excited about making new things in terms of reaching out you know like we have a great community one thing that i love about the the fisher company is that we've had for a long time there's just been his attitude of like were not competing with other people you know like we make we make and were proud of it and we can you know let's talk about what we do in how we do it in can we share with others and i think were benefiting from that and renew because were able to go like all right for example i was describing you know this certain amount of clothing that we get back we are we selling and we do not have any solutions like designer recycling solutions as for it so we recently just start reaching out to all of our partners and like including you know i reached out to the brooklyn fashion designer accelerated ask them you know do you have any ideas about what we should do this and reach out to like fellow design companies and we reach out to the textile recyclers cycler as are reaching out to the mills that we work with it and were just saying like does anyone have any idea do you want this stuff where you gonna do something quoted or what should we do with it and it is really exciting and like little by little i feel like were chipping away like okay this person had an idea about what we could do with this specific fabric and then all right so like will take that away from the pilots left and like what else do we have to figure out and it is really inventing things as we go and i think there's also technology and you know machinery that's like being built now that you know like a lot of chemical recycling first fiber and fabric is starting to come become available but it's still kicking i think longer than i imagined i think others imagine so but that is happening and you have companies like asian and they're investing seeing in that kind of comical recycling then i think we'll be a big answer for big companies that are making like like h and m poor making you know millions of the same caught and paulie t shirt or whatever if they can take that back and create a new fabric break out of that eventually at scale and you know in a profitable way i think that's the dream where were not you know having to like throw all that cotton and unused all new inputs one thing that comes to mind you're describing this is i found it really inspirational that tesla the electric car company opened up all their patents for how to make an electric car in because their stated mission as a company is like we wanna get the world towards renewable energy yeah and so so that's a world projects like everybody to work on that together so the more we share these approaches and like a lot of different companies to using methods that have been developed to to solve some of these problems the veteran you know were talking about computer vision or different technologies around making garments dying garnet garments i feel like this is the stuff where i think you know i wish i would we would see like more industry collaboration or sharing of of that information or the companies that you look to that you think are doing a great job with that well i mean i think because patagonia has you know they're worn we're program we have a nice kind of back and forth where i'm trying to figure something something out like i'll reach out to them and they'll share whatever they can and then hopefully vice versa if they ever gonna ever have the same question 'em or a question for us and will try to help answer we have another another partner as a male partner and 'em called how attacks and they're like really interested in helping us create new fabrics out of are old fabrics and that's really exciting 'cause i i think what i'm looking for i'm looking for companies they're excited about trying new things and are excited about experimenting in saying like oh we've never done that with like a cotton poly blend but let's try you know as opposed to there's i think a much greater number of companies needs to seem not that interested you know they're like making they're doing business find the way they're doing it but i think you come across people in companies once in a while her like yeah let's try to figure this out together in will probably fail a few times and maybe maybe will get somewhere that actually create some progress so that's really exciting i wish i could think of mark 'cause i think there are more people in this case doing that same just honestly drawing a blank will weaken links later if you come up with other ideas but also it's a it it kind of highlights the problem right yeah i think it's i think it's something where everyone who's who's participating in that i think kind of to the point of like responsibility to the consumer on there's also responsibility to the industry into i think that it's an area that i think there's so much work to be done yeah well and it's interesting to you're making me think about like there's all of these organizations have kind of popped up some of them are around longer than others but they're trying to create you know like the circular economy working groups and there's all conferences on the circular economy and i feel like everyone is talking about this and trying to figure it out together you know i i do think that h and m i think because of their financial picture you know how big they are like they're able to throw a lot of financial nanteuil resources at the chemical recycling which is you know really needed on yeah i think the the conversation over the past few years consumer facing has gotten to a really good place where i think the the we we now have a general awareness that we should be shopping at least here in the united states in a more conscious way i think there's at least that bug is starting to spread right but i i hope it doesn't go down a path where companies start feel like sustainability becomes a competitive advantage necessarily like that i mean it would be great if they're pushing in that direction but i think it's such an important thing for all of us to work on that i i hope that you know initiatives should've that allow for more sustainability don't become this like secret you know that is something that allows your company to do something better than another company that does that make sense it does make sense and i totally i agree with you and you know i think i would say i feel like eileen fisher is a ninety percent open but there's a few places where we need to be better about that yeah i just bringing up for me like i i think it's really important that that sustainability is not a competitive advantage i totally agree and and we should all be getting there you know together and sharing everything that we know and have figured out along the way and 'em yeah absolutely if you were talking to someone who's starting a start up today in there you know five or ten percent team and they're designing garment starting to make things what would you tell them about processes that they could implement at that scale that would allow for more circularity or any improvements in their society sustainability of their supply chain oh well one thing that comes to mind just as a a lengthy chair is idea i believe shared like they they open source there on design circularity clearly principles there's something are like it's like a guidebook and you can look at all you know they're kind of guidelines which is really great 'em but i would say for somebody starting out small you know the kinds of questions i guess i would ask are you know how durable is the product that you're making i would lean towards make it more durable and like where's the value and your product meaning like are you making you know a hundred percent organic lenin and then you're fabric will continue to be valuable even in its readers phase whereas if you're using right now you know if you're using like a really kind of inexpensive say like cotton poly blend probably not as valuable at least right now so where's the value in their products and are you making it in a way that that value you can be recoup so for us you know when we make wide leg lennon trousers we get those back and if we can't resell them like we cut them up and they're still actually pretty big piece of fabric they weaken the news to to remake kind of an example when i mean by value i think any any type of company whether it's clovinger not like i just think about look at where the value is and what you're making an are you making in a way that it will be easy to take it back are you making making it easy for you trigger customers bring it back and then on how will you be able to continue to get value out of those pieces that you're making as we wrap up i would love for you to touch on what binding fisher on a broader level doing there's a there's a big initiative called vision twenty twenty that was announced last year can you give us some of the highlights of that and maybe where people can go to learn more about what's going on there sure yeah so vision twenty twenty i think it's been around for a years and and basically be ideas we're trying to get to as close as we can to a hundred percent sustainability by by twenty twenty and so i don't think we've done a great job marketing that i think there's a misconception that we were trying become a hundred percent of sustainable by twenty twenty which it's not gonna happen but we made a bunch of great goals first off so i'm actually gonna be island fisher dot com website and you go behind the label you could look at vision twenty twenty and we had goals i'd like to have a hundred percent cotton in a hundred percent lennon be organic by twenty twenty arcor marino's will get unethical makeover will use wall from sheep better responsibly raise so we have fiber goals we have on color so diet house goals we have goals around resources we have goals around people and supply chain honoree years so you can kind of look at at all of those on our website and i think were really you know proud we've got we've made a lot of progress in the last few years and it's so helpful when you said you know a concrete gulf yourself you know just how much how much closer you get to it if you if you're really specific and then our starting to think about okay beyond twenty twenty you know what is the impact we wanna have and where do we still need to make a significant improvement and i think reuse and resell will become a bigger a bigger part of the company's bottom line and i'm a bigger part of the commitment just inability in a bigger part of the way we measure how like the good that were doing yeah and i think going back to what we were talking about of kind of opening up 'em what were you know what different companies are doing i think opening up you're goals is a great way to do that too because it sort of helps create some sort sort of framework both internally you know how you're energy and resources and priorities are are being organized and then externally helping customers and maybe the rest of the industry understand hey here's a project the week and work towards that's like relatively simply concrete so that's really exciting 'em will put a link in the show notes so the people can learn more is there anything else you wanna point people to if they're interested in learning more about renew and eileen fisher there's the link you you mentioned at the beginning but yeah yeah i would say you know check i sure am renews dot com an were doing a pop up for the month of april in a number of our of our eileen fisher retail stores and so actually you'll be you'll you'll be able to shop i'm gonna let's see denver a pass edina away 'em if you go on fishery new and go to events you could see which only official stores will be hosting little renew pop ups and were gonna have a great indigo sal on the official renew an dinner seattle store coming up so sorry my my brain is rapidly turning into mud 'em but yeah but all of those things are on eileen fisher renew dot com there's also wonderful photographs of the factory and kind of the behind the scenes of how it all works so i really highly recommend that people take a look at that and discover it oh that's that's a good reminder we have monthly tors and are factories also skews me in are tiny factory you can also reach out to customer service and we connect you know give you those times and and and make sure that you come and see the factory if that's what you like to do any of you listening that's awesome irvington i don't actually know exactly where that is not an hour north of the city and it's really easy to get you on on the train on metro north so it's about an hour and walkable from the train station so not too bad i will definitely come check it out and excitement in new york please do thank you so much that's been really informative and inspirational i love what you're doing and i'm really excited to see where it goes especially as you work your way towards some of these bigger goals and it would be awesome to to check in with you in in a year two and see how far things have come yeah please do not keep me honest keep moving that's awesome thank you cynthia thank you very much to one last thing
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Stead interacting with the Corp. world or I should say whatever base of brilliant hardware allows you to listen to podcasts like this one back in the seventies people recorded a multi track tape. Most overdubbed and corrections were done by simply recording them on another track and then mixed results sometimes though if you needed to remove abortion ever recording all together you actually add mark sections on a tape. Take a razor blade. Cut the tape where he marked it. Then use it. He's tape too but the cat sashes together the engineers who are adept at his always in high demand. You could miss a record avary bad if you weren't skilled with a razor blade in the nineteen seventies however they're always seemed to be a surplus or razor blades in some recording studios. You know for other uses the all the candy and it's took me the case Jeronimos A look man. You can't quick Okay last one of our biggest rockers. So now I cannot. Automate tracked three or four main. Let's get it right up front. We said special love them was going to be tracked through game. Bagram man will follow Lady of High Live Better. I mean you're always talking about themes willows to pretty close thematically. Wouldn't you say yes that's right you know it's like when you listen to the twelve dreams of Dr Sardonicus. There's a bunch of different subjects floating around all over their record. They work together really well. Which is was such a masterpiece of a record. May You with whatever he just said. We Dr Sardines Drain the twelve dreams of Dr Sardonicus as a record by spirit. You've heard it Scott. Nature's way on it and Mr Skin and it's really trippy and credible. Oh Yeah Yeah I know Mr Skid Song there ha ha horns on their wish. We get some horns on this record. We all remember Mr where it occurred tall. I ended high school he played. It's not GonNa work anything we thought. Maybe since we have several themes running through this album we could put them together. It clusters and then in the record with our big finale. He's w-why bow before your mighty overlords all ye bake wish register now hale now. It would tie the whole album together. A NEAT package and serves a taste of what's to commoner fusion. It done tash it together. A dozen him sound like any of our other stuff in to nobody except she thinks that's what we're going to sound like in the future well as the leader and the visionary I think is definitely are not this shit again and God hell may well if your daily say anyway back to Work Desi Unit Ray do the vocals on Candy Gram Man. I blame wars wrong with them. Well YOU'RE OFF K. Is several places in in the second verse is like? You're not even sure. What Blair are so. You mumbled them on the first line. Have flares remain as what it sounds like to me? Well what about Mick Jagger's vocals man? You understand ninety percent of the study he sings. He's the greatest Roth senior law saying. Get Away with it. Because he's the greatest rock singer alive and then there's you know I'm not a good singer. Now you're perfectly all right but they songs me a lot better if you try a little harder on. The vocals dissolved toll. This is only rock and roll. Ns Casey's being lazy through make you happy L. Do some vocal takes you billy to reduce your bag of vocals too. You know yeah problem lesson is. It has a look. See how easy that was? We got other stuff talk about to jazz. We only started talking about the rest pretty important. Don't you think about that a lot too? You know we already got our exploding star logo that sandy did forest last year by likes speaking sandy man. What was the less? I'm you heard from her mission during a long time. Not since she was at the white t shirt to all the national parks of North America including Canada with over girlfriends. I got a letter from a while. Back she says she'd be back Irvington. Sometime wounds pretty soon sometime. Thank is the twenty third of fuck you Jesse Innate. Your Damn Business. She's a free person. We read in a book or something. Maybe we'll put that chapter at tobacco. Janine leave chapter our smart ass. I mean in the back where nobody keiser world not really mean anybody in turn the bag of a book and see. What's there you know? Shut up. Shut up. Shut Ghana Mighty. Mary barely pricing him. So dear for cover at anything today with booms buying chance no a main. I Guess Ora Billy. What's your ideal thought we could get? Some t shirts made. That has the dazzled new logo on the front door big. I get a real party girl were and that can make the cover. That's that's not bad. Actually I mean we need to get t shirts made up anyway right Kalua. Daddy spent way more money back at our. Eddie Sean Cher. How much we got left a band on the album cover beauty. Billy's idea dirt dines yes I mean get the t shirts may we get? Somebody was good camera. 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E45: Butterbeer Harry Potter, Chung Ling Soo, and David Curtiss Stephenson
"<music>. Hey guys you are listening to kill her cocktails where the drinks are stiff but the buddies stiffer. This is a casual true crime podcast where two friends get get drunk and talk about gruesome murders each week. We pick a different drink whose name or ingredients set the tone for our stories. Hey guys welcome back to another week at killer cocktails. This is dre this is Jackie and we are are doing a Harry. Potter themed episode. I'm excited. I'm super stoked. <hes> we are doing this because it's Harry potters birthday on July thirty first. I yes and <hes> so we're coming out a little bit before his birthday but we we went to get you prep for gear up for hat. I love the Harry Potter books because I grew up with them and because they're essentially why I learned to read. I was very late reader and so my mom took me to those late night border book releases uh-huh address and she'd like all right go to bed wink wink and I'd like read the book and it was just it was. I don't know I loved it was magical. My Grandmother Mother would buy the book like we all share it so it was like this. You'd be like redone faster. Why are you wanted. Somebody got to start with it like they didn't get to start the next one mm-hmm. Oh it was exciting. When a new book was coming out yeah I know I love him so we are going to do some Harry Potter facts Harry Potter honor fact honey pot with potter <hes> and these might be some spoilers. They are some spoilers. If you haven't read the books or see in the movies go ahead ZIP ZIP ZIP ahead probably ten minutes or five to ten <hes> and then we'll see you in a bit but for all you other listeners out there. Let's jump into these Harry Potter facts that you might not know Harry's Bary's parents. James and lily are soulmates because the patroness charm <hes> is a physical representation of one soul because James is a stag again. Lily is a doe. They are perfect fit together. Cute because professor snake was in love with lily his patroness transformed into a dough when she died ride interesting <hes> rollings <hes> has said that if voldemort saw a bog art it would embody his own corpse since death was always his greatest fear here. <hes> Dumbledore is an old English word for Bumblebee. Rolling said she chose the name because she pictured dumbledore humming to terms of Oh. That's fun. Isn't that nice okay so if muggles stumbled across hogwarts it would look like a dilapidated building with a keep out dangerous sign on it. uh-huh that's exciting <hes> rolling has admitted that she regrets the relationship between Raanan Hair Armani. Oh really <hes>. Do you have any feelings towards that no do you. I haven't given it much much mind. Longtime almost feel like the relationship between Harry and Ron Sisters Little Lazy. Oh <hes> yeah <hes> okay so while filming prisoner prisoner of asking me on the pockets of Tom. FELTON's hogwarts roads were sewn shut to stop him from sneaking food onto the set funny. Is that DRACO malfoy. Tom Felton's that sounds right. Yeah that's funny. That's so funny. <hes> on the tenth anniversary of Harry's parents death and the First Time Baltimore was defeated the thirty first of October nineteen ninety one. He and Ron saved her money from the troll in the bathroom. This is generally regarded as the day the trio became friends <hes> all right so another. Harry Potter fact the first five years rolling spent on Harry Potter were spent determining rules about her character's could and could not do I love it. Harry Potter Fact Rolling has admitted that Demento our physical depiction of her own <hes> debilitating experience with depression during her twenties whoa that's a good riff presentation yeah <hes> all right <hes> Harry Potter Fag Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert grint both admitted to having a crush on Emma Watson earlier Phil Okay Harry Potter fact while filming the Kissing Kissing scene between the Hor- correct versions of Harry Armani in deathly hallows part to Ron had to be removed from set for laughing hysterically yeah. That's funny you get off. Yeah get off that you can't be here because how how far are the that. They've been both filming yearly. Wherever Harry Potter Fag Tom Felton so draco malfoy originally auditioned for the roles of Harry and Ron Now. We're going bleach your hair buddy. <hes> your your hours now <hes> all right Harry Potter bag. The first Harry Potter was published in Nineteen Ninety eight the same year. The final battle of hogwarts was fought rolling has said I opened at the close. Oh 'cause you open the first book and it's the closing of a whole ooh okay. I have one more fact for you. What does that guess. who also has a birthday? I have a birthday. Oh my God. I didn't finish inch that shares it with Harry Potter July thirty. First <hes> I don't know Jake Rolling Summit Autho will bat has been in Harry Potter facts and we've either tickled your fancy or we spoiled everything for you so oh and by the way are cocktail this week butter servier. We made butter beer. You guys so let me two things happened. When I read those books there were I'm. I WanNa say to magical things. That could be consumed. You read about Potter Beer and the way it is described. There's no better Elixir Sir in the world you wanNA drink a butter beer so bad so bad and there's Birdie birdie whatever I just had to eat and I remember reading about it and thinking it was so magical amazing and knowing that I never needed to eat those and then you may meet them I will. I feel like Kim. Marie came up with the plan. Whatever it was she made us when I was there and they warned you about peer pressure. They were talking about this being forced to eat but guess what you ate them your gross in the good ones gross yeah. We don't recommend the beans. What do you think about the <hes> the cocktail though the career it's decent there in nowhere you ordering about our beer out at a bar and like making a cocktail for yourself at the house definitely not this yeah in originally we we we made it with the Vanilla Vodka and then the cream soda and then butterscotch. What do you call it yeah and Dan. It was just so sugary. Super sweeing Jackie was super nice. She found me like almond coconut cream which just added another weird flavor yeah <hes> and then we did it with dark rum and I think I'm not liking the room and it's just really sweet you would make this is when you're having a Harry Potter Day. Yeah Yeah if you're like marathoning some movies. If you're dressing up some robes I know there's some Harry Potter fans out there and they know how to have fun. <hes> that is when you would make this. Maybe maybe we didn't get the right recipe. Go check out a recipe on instagram. Let us know if we didn't get the right one. Tell us the right one. I wear them. I think you just have to be sharper. Uber fiend okay 'cause like what did they do. In Harry Potter Land There Kissel of sugar yeah in Legal Harry Potter. I thought I was in the book. Oh no Harry Potter utterly end because it can be served hot or cold but I always imagined hot when I read about it on the book. It was a hot drink yeah so I can't imagine I you know me in hot. I know alcohol cocktails. You don't like hot at all in any regard I don't. I don't let it move to Antarctica. I'm about got it all right guys that can wraps up our cocktail hour. It's Mariota is bill. I'm excited because you've been teasing me with your story. I'm GonNa tell you about Chung Ling. Soo Okay Chung was a Chinese American magician. Oh back in the early nineteen hundreds I'll so we're drinking butter beer <hes> but abuse from Harry Potter Harry Potter is a world full of magic yes yes. This is how I time my story to the drink. I've got a magician on the early. Love it okay. This is awesome all right on March twenty third nineteen eighteen a very popular trick of his goes wrong. Oh No so nope. I guess I'll give you a little bit more interest so you've obviously picked up by his name and they told you who's chinese-american his whole theme is of the Orient. He's he's got. The lake half shaved head with the long braid. He Scott like fancy robes. <hes> there's a bunch of like illusions that he does the kind of play into that whole any never talks onstage. Oh He's like us very mysterious. He's incredibly mysterious so he's up there. He's doing this trick and the trick is a bullet catch. What so yes so the name of his trick is called the condemned to death by the boxers and that doesn't make any sense 'cause whatever boxers has was at the fans so the boxers are his assistance and they're dressed as members. This is like super old school. They're dressed as members of the righteous fists of Harmony <hes> which is the Chinese opposition to the British in the boxer rebellion so that's the tides as sold heritage all this is taking place in England okay so he's in England as a magician doing this whole like he's going to do is he's got two people in guns firing and guns atom they each point they shoot and most of the time he's catching the bullets in his teeth how and then he's like taking them down into a little receptacle K.. Sometimes he's just catching them but the most impressive ones are worries like catches him and his teeth. I mean he's magic. I'm I'm fascinated okay so normally catches them however on this particular night so he's kind of lazy in this regard so the prop guns essentially it's like it's a two barrel gun if I remember correctly. It's like two barrels to it. There's a extra trick barrel K. so he shows people people like here's the bullet and he puts it in so the bullet goes into a chamber that doesn't fire okay and there's blanks in cell. There's come again. We're in early nineteen hundreds. We just we got early guns so you hear the Loud Bang but the bullet that went in never goes out okay. What does he catch? He's got his own little fake props over there so he's doing sleight of hand got it on his end <hes> however he's not cleaning these guns. Oh no so the gun powder residue is building up happens on them new so eventually that little secret chamber that isn't supposed to fire the bullet does fires and he gets shot in the chest onstage stage while performing this trick. Can you imagine so he gets hit. He hits the ground and all of a sudden he yells in imperfect English. Something's terribly wrong. Put the curtain down. He dies the next Oh yeah no will then it comes out dude's not Chinese but what what yeah he Chinese who this is a stage personality what he's Scottish. It's like super racist and he's this dressing like he's completely pretending to be Chinese and that's the character what so now let's go back in time a little bit okay <hes> while he's like coming up and being super famous as this like Chinese magician. There's another Chinese magician and this actual actual Chinese. Yes so he's from Beijing. His name is zoo Linka. I don't know how to say it. His stage name is Ching Ling Ling Fu over similar very similar and he came. I he came first so he's Chinese. He's a magician and he has these popular tricks so the dudes real name is Robinson. He's super like U._K.. Scottish English so he goes goes to he's been a magician his whole life so from the time he's fourteen he's super into illusions <hes> but he has this whole other stage persona he joins this Vaudeville acts so he's doing okay a <unk> as himself and then he sees Fu do this performance and he's like I love it yeah and because food is just traveling. He doesn't normally tour around where they are. He's like this guy will never know that I'm copying them and other people won't I'm just going to create this character yeah so he creates this character marketing yeah okay so and he rips him off. He's like doing all of his tricks like okay so he's a world famous magician and he would breathe fire this food the original guy he would pull a fifteen put a fifteen foot pole out of his mouth what he would cut the head off of a boy who would then walkaway offstage apparently headless to people what he's not really doing this new. I I love magic okay so in one thousand nine hundred six so this is now gone back in time late. Eighteen hundreds Fu issues a challenge offering a thousand dollars which think about in eighteen eighteen ninety six thousand dollars <hes> to anyone who could duplicate his illusions so he's famous. He's like there's no like movies. He's not like you go and you watched about like this is height of an and he's like if you can figure out my tricks and you can do 'em thousand bucks so Robinson who has yet to create this other character. He's right now. He's just a vaudeville magician. He would go like he had some characters like. There's this guy he would. They pretend to be like Ahmed Ben Ali so he lays off of these very ethnic different from you know very exotic audit is I think what he's playing into by today's standards races. He's painting his face with grease paint like it's not appropriate <hes> so so he studies food and he's like trying to figure out his tricks <hes> and he's like I'm I challenge it and foods like <hes> never never he kinda reneges on the deal <hes> because he had it yeah <hes> so part of why food is like no I'm not going to do that is that he breaks the cardinal rule of magicians any rights tell all book and he gives away the tricks. Oh He's one of those Ooh so like all of you are never to reveal a trick. Oh so food is super. He's mad. He's like I'm not giving you. The thousand dollars like the whole point is people are supposed you can recreate it and prove that you know how to do it but you're giving away so he's better shape. The name of the book was spirit slate writing and and kindred phenomena <hes> so basically he's giving away some of the tricks that he would like <hes> talk to the dead and it was like all all that so he gave away those those tricks not like I think all the like main headline headline stuff from Chri <hes> but so that's going on so there there's a rivalry between these two guys they end up like when all this goes down to in January of nineteen o five Chung the impostor Oh dude he's performing at the hippodrome and his rival Chang is performing at the nearby Empire Theater so ching thing is Fhu so they've got their dueling shows and the imposture is getting better attendance and his his show stays stays on longer than the other guy the other guys just like infuriated yeah Super Mad because he made himself into this yes so all all of this Oh and meanwhile the impostor guy he's married to this one lady and then he's like. I'm not going to be married to her like he's getting all these ladies pregnant he keeps marrying and not divorcing so like illegally marrying his assistance and other ladies like he's just Kinda this like he's getting more and more grain yeah. He's just got have a piece of shit. Oh yeah he's just he's stealing tricks. He's giving away tricks. He's not a good father. <hes> that's kind of at the end of it. Oh there's because it ends with he was an impostor and then everyone finds out yeah <hes> but before all that there's this he leads this whole yeah. I was alive thinking that Fu is going to have something to do with it like he was the one who went in L._A.. Part of why I played that up like have you ever seen the movie the Prestige Seige yes so yes. There's a part in the prestige where they go the two of the two key quantity musicians the two magicians goes go get Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale. They go to see a performer and his name. Is this guy imposter the impostor the guy because he's a famous magician back in the day so it's kind of a tip of the Hat Christopher Nolan gave to this character got <hes> precious kind of coot like that's that's created and there's all sorts of stuff like you can go nuts on and I'll bet there's probably documentaries again. I didn't have a ton of two. I just thought it was crazy and that was what I was trying to tell. You couldn't figure <music> out. Do I just tell the story of this impostor who does all this stuff and then ultimately dies in a trick or do I tell you that he's trailer and and everyone finds out like wait a minute that guy's not Chinese. That's crazy. No I look at pictures of it's crazy look at pictures of him. He had the story where like his Dad Dad was Scottish and his mom was from China or he was saying that he was like half Chinese Kinda pull off like why he looked the way he looked yeah. That's crazy crazy. Yeah you could get away with so much back in the day like he would speak in broken English and because he's never talking on stage when he is he's putting off dissolution of like he doesn't speak English when he wasn't dressed up as a Chinese dude he would be himself and pretend that he was the manager Roger of and they would talk to people and he'd set up appointments. Do you think anybody new you think like okay like John McAfee kind of situation all K- There Buddy that's insane yeah and he had a wise through this who knows <hes> <music>. I love it. I know but additions Isla Mon- artists I love. I love everything about the store. The Prestige might be one of my top five favorite movie love the prestige all right guys. We're GONNA we'll take a quick break and we'll be back. Hey guys we are going to actually take a break message for Ya Gimme a break Gimme a break me off a piece of that Edberg such we are GonNa talk about t shirts. I love t shirts you everyday t shirts every day. Oh Yeah Jackie. What's your favorite kind of t shirt? I like a t shirt with a story while I have the t shirt for you. The Casey p Aka the killer cocktails podcast on the back. They say where the drinks are stiff and the bodies are stiffer. The Rabbit wore them in a couple of instrumentalists and they're super comfy. <hes> and we're doing this really cool contest right now so the only way you could get a t shirt if you head over to our website grab one over stickers and the what you're GonNa do snap a fun creative picture with the Sticker K. and that's whatever that that means to you and then you're gonNA share it on Instagram and you're GonNa Hashtag killer cocktails podcasts and make sure you tag us in it too and then you'll be entered into a contest to ruined one of these cool free t shirts. There's nothing better than a free shirt. I feel like half my closet is free shirts and I love them twice as much because they were free. Yes yes because then you like earned it. Yes yes yes all right Throw on some stars. It really does help gain exposure to the podcast so other people can learn about it. It really does and we'd love you for all your support. Thank you bye guys all right. We are back from a rake in. It's time for my story here. We go okay Jackie. Yes I'm GonNa tell you about madge. Augustine Augustine Ober Holster Madge is born on November tenth of eighteen ninety six as she's born in Clay City Indiana and she grows up in Fulton County Indiana and she grew up with her German American parents and I want to say they were immigrants <hes> and she heads off to college and she studies English and mathematics and zoology geology and logic at Butler college in Irving Irvington in Irvington <hes> but drops out at the end of her junior year without saying anything okay so it all kind of starts out is like first Gen German going to school now and like all of it seems like American Dream Yeah and then she just quietly drops drops out yeah junior year <hes> <hes> and then she I i WanNa say she was living with her parents at the time but she she is now currently living with their parents which is not uncommon uncommon for that day and age or now or now yeah yeah millennials yeah <hes> other cultures do it like in Chile. They like like through through their thirties. It's not that uncommon so she starts working for the Indiana Department of Education where she helps illiterate adults learn to read aide. She's isn't that Nice okay so then she eventually becomes manager of Indiana Young People's reading circle and she's. I'm having a great time. She bought this reading. She Yeah Yeah I bet you. She likes Harry Potter. She would say you're tied. No I bet she like Harry Potter but she loves his job but there's rumors that it's going to dissolve because of budget cuts so she's not going to have this job for rob for century <hes> <hes> so now. We're going to tell you about this other person. I'm going to tell you about David. Curtis Stevenson and AK AK Steve his friends call him Steve. <hes> Steve is born in eighteen ninety one in Houston Texas. He leaves school at the end of eighth grade and he's like sixteen at the time Kato ready to be a workman exactly he does actually have to lead to support his family. <hes> when he turns twenty he joins the Texas National Guard and during World War One he sent to Boone Iowa to work as a recruiter in after the war he takes a job as a traveling salesman in Ohio so he's kind of mountain round back in the days of traveling salesman <hes> and at this point he's had two failed marriages already <hes> he gets <hes> pretty drunk and he gets kind of <hes> <hes> abusive yeah so he's not a dream boat. No no no no no <hes> he likes to read psychology books and he starts taking public speaking courses says and he soon developed this ability to captivate audiences with his speaking ooh yes in nineteen twenty two. He becomes a partner in the coal whole business and he moves to Indiana <hes> the Texas the job <hes> I think you yeah he's kind of Oliver. Okay Yeah <hes> in the next year he joins his club called the Ku Klux Klan. Oh yeah so. It's like an after school club. I think they like to to read okay so in November of nineteen twenty two some K._k._k.. Members decide you know what there needs to be a shift in power here things need to change up so Steve Backs. This guy named <hes> changing power within the Kucuk piano changing power like in the local in the Kucuk they wanna new grand wizard or whatever yes <hes> so steve starts backing this Guy Herm Wesley Evans to become the next imperial wizard. Oh that's your tie. I asked my tie you took it to the clan wizards fascinating. I'm sorry I love how different we approached it. Yeah I love your tie it. I mean I don't love it but I love it. It's crazy that they're called material wizard. I like cold wizards and drag it affected their called wizard yeah and they're still rolling. I started looking at the rankings and it's it's insane. They're awful <hes> so harry potter is in butter beer in a wizard wizar- wizard the Guy Oh <hes> so he's he's backing this guy to take this new position and when Evan becomes imperial wizard Stephen Moves into the role as Grand Dragon of Indiana in twenty two other northern states and he becomes regarded as one of the most successful clan leaders <hes> so <hes> Steve also becomes active in the state's Republican Party in influences bills on nutrition steam pollution fire insurance highways and margarine if he soon becomes so powerful that he's considered a contender for president of the United States in the upcoming nineteen twenty election and Dwayne yes but who got the vote in twenty all laid as you make all my hands of Batman Lady of overdose Ku Klux Klan that's great. That's a great way to remember that okay so while empower memberships grow dramatically it within the K._K._k.. Indiana or just in general mainly an Indiana the N._F._l.. So in Indiana alone membership grew to nearly three hundred thousand or you could think of it as one third of all white males in the state Jesus yes <music> because remember he's he's like he speaks very well. He's very charming and he's the Dragon. He's the dragon so I WANNA say goes dragon in the imperial wizard so he kinda rains hype man. Yes the hype man for the grant wizard. The imperial was imperial wizard yet so he not only has Indiana but he has twenty two other other states of the northern states. That's his what do you call it <hes> domain no. I don't know all a dragon would have a domain. Yes yes <hes> so in in nineteen twenty four by the age of thirty. Three Steve is a multimillionaire. He's living in a large mansion any of the staff of several bodyguards. He has a small small fleet of cars a personal train and even a yacht on Lake Erie. This is crazy. <hes> <hes> he also is just becoming very very cocky and he he would repeatedly say I am the law in Indiana. This is all gross <hes> <hes> he is publicly racists ACIS and he's against people who sleep around <hes> he's against alcohol in immoral books and movies but at the same time he's GonNa say let me guess how he's living him life <hes> <hes> <hes> at the same time he's having orgies in his mansion. He's an alcoholic in a sexual deviant that enjoyed <hes> degrading and humiliating women and I'm so surprised <hes> yeah because you you always face value right yeah no no all right so in early nineteen twenty four one one woman charges Steve with a seduction and he ended up paying her off then other women are coming forward and he starts bribing local officials to look the other way so steve is in politics and he starts heavily supporting <hes> Republican Ed Jackson who runs for Governor in nineteen twenty four and he wins with with the support of Steve and others interesting so Steve is at the governor's Commencement Party. N._E._C.'s beautiful young woman there in it's our friend manage over page <hes> he instantly attracted to her and he keeps asking her out throughout the night and she has no smitten no no <hes> <hes> but he wears her down and so she says yes and they start going on a couple dates in she like these are getting kind of intertwined in each other's lives she you like starts acting as his aid during the nineteen twenty five session of the General Assembly and she's like carrying messages from his office down to his friends and she also helps awesome right A. Nutrition book called one Hundred Years of health and she plans to use her reading circle connections to help sell the book to school libraries as throughout the state interesting development <hes> in this. I found different versions of the story. I'm sure debate yeah. I'M GONNA go with the Smithsonian's version but I'm GONNA mention this other one so some accounts say that she found out he was part of the K._K._k.. And was like I'm done. I'm out <hes> and then other no are no and then what what happens next happens. <hes> and other people are like no she didn't know anything yet and and she gets home on Sunday March fifteenth at around ten PM and she'd been out with a friend in her mom tells her that Steve's secretary had called the house looking for her k. and he was like hey. I'm going to Chicago and I want you to just come over and say goodbye <hes> in so she's like okay that sounds great and so he he sends over a bodyguard and he picks her up in in a car and he drives her down to his mansion. <hes> because you know ladies aren't driving driving early in so she gets there in she can see that he's wasted and he's in the kitchen and he starts trying to get her to drink and he he gets her to drink more and more and more until she becomes sick and she doesn't want to drink but he's like pressuring her to and he's like you need to come to Chicago with me like come to Chicago and and she's like no like I need. I need to go home and next thing she knows she's being shoved into his car by the bodyguards and they start driving to a union station and then these kidnapping her <hes> and then they drager out of the car onto seve's private train Anza private true ooh yeah and they push Own Steve Attacks her he starts raping and beating her and he starts viciously biting her all over her body and this is including her face her neck check her breasts back legs ankles and tongue in finally the pain is so bad that she just passes out dude yeah <hes> so the train is going along and eventually it stops in Hammond Indiana and they like the bodyguards and seed like puppet her off the train into a hotel hotel called the Indiana Hotel in they get her up to this room and so at this point may just just like in unimaginable bull like pain amy and she's like gone through hell and she she's like with Steve and Steve's Kinda like passed out asleep and she sees this gun in his pocket so she grabs now's the gun and she's like pointing it to his head and then she's like you know what this would dishonor me and my family like I can't do this. I'm GonNa just kill myself I can't I can't live like this. I can't live after going through this and so she like tiptoes into the next room and she's like preparing for it you know and then one of the bodyguards comes in and says she like scurries off she hides and then she liked puts the gun back into his pocket and like goes to sleep and so the next morning Steve Wakes up and she's like hey you know I just really want to go to the local drugstore to bring it any my makeup like an Isam Rouge. He's like okay fine a have a bodyguard. Take you down there so she goes to the drugstore she buys an entire box of mcgurk chloride tablets. Can I go and so this used to be. We used to disinfect wounds in the Middle Ages and the doctors in the U._S.. Started using it to treat syphilis but patients would often get mercury poisoning poisoning in 'cause you're essentially it's mercury. Oh Yeah and so at high doses that is Lethal Jack Day. People were weird about them mercury. It's a cure Algebra what could go wrong so she gets back to the room and she's like trying to figure out how she can take these pills in the at the same time. There's all these those huge bite marks all of our money. That's just like essentially gaping holes will mouser dirty yes in there like bleeding and she hasn't gone any care here for them and so she finally she's at the drugstore when she gets them like Louis. She's GonNa. She's GonNa commit suicide at this point. Oh that's right so she'll she ends up taking six tablets. It's and she starts vomiting blow. She's got him. I saw in my head. She was going to poison him. No remember that would dishonor her and her family because she's a nice person okay so steve so she's vomiting blood in Sivas like oh I would love to help you. I would love to take you to the hospital but you're going to have to go to this chapel down the street and Mary me I yes because if you're my wife you can't charge me with stuff Babo Bobo Bobo boss. You can't rape your wife. Yes right now yeah yes. I know I get your sarcasm. Yes <hes> so this goes on for the next twenty four hours. She's vomiting blood. She has open wounds and he's like I would love to help you but and she's saying I don't want to go to the chap. She's Kinda holding ground on that part yet. I'M NOT GONNA go Mary you. I can't hear monster <hes> so finally he sees that it's getting serious so he has two of his bodyguards rent a car and driver back to her parents home in Indiana where they drop her off late that night night and they say she was in a car accident <hes> her parents immediately call Dr in while at the hospital. <hes> May Jr tells her mom what had happened her. Mom writes it all down and she signs her confession. Mad then dies on April Fourteenth nineteen twenty five from a staph infection from the bites plus kidney failure from the mercury poisoning Lord <hes> so Steve is taken in on charges of kidnapping rape in second degree murder and although his lawyers argue that Maj committed suicide the doctor testifies that her mutilation injuries alone were sufficient to cause her death <hes> the doctor describes bribes for wounds as similar to having been chewed by Cannibal best crazy <hes> she was chewed by cannabis. Yes <hes> he also states that by failing willing to take any action to help her for twenty four hours. He basically killed her yeah. The jury convicts Steve Of all counts and this is impressive like he's getting bright. Once yes us for the level he time yeah <hes> and he sends to life in prison and a little side note. This case is still used in law school today really <hes> I thought that was a little fact <hes> okay but there's more so this case can had a butterfly effect in that so during the trial a lot of clans members become outraged by the violent Stephen Flick did on Maj so much so that entire chapter started to quit and then Oh wow memberships dropped by the tens of thousands this is impressive <hes> and after being denied a part in nineteen twenty six by his old buddy governor Jackson Steve Starts Talking to the Indiana Indianapolis Indianapolis Times in he starts giving copies of letters and checks on the names of officials who had accepted bribes and payments from the clam he starts singing <hes> in after a thorough investigation the state friendly <hes> takes in several high ranking officials including Steve's Buddy Governor Ed Jackson thin and the head of the Republican Party a local county other local officials resigned when facing charges so they're like <hes> I'm just I'm not going to start the the The Times investigation revealed widespread political corruption which helped destroy the clan in Indiana and nationwide by February of Nineteen Twenty eight Indiana Indiana Klan Rosters had dropped to just four thousand from a peak of more than two hundred fifty thousand members in nineteen twenty five what just over this scandal the ripples of crazy crazy. I got goosebumps yeah that because like I know you wouldn't expect not that like this was such Asia under this like one thing that happened between two people yeah horrific but they caused this like crazy Cuco people contemporary club and I'm not cool with what this guy did <hes>. I'm out yeah yeah impressive. I love it so back to Steve. Steve is paroled. He had he was still life. Okay he was paroled on March twenty third in nineteen fifty but he he violates the conditions of his parole disappearing and he is captured in nineteen fifty one in his order to serve another ten years <hes> he's paroled on December twenty second nineteen fifty six on the condition that he leave Indiana and never return normally in paroled. You can't yeah they're like you've got to get out of here. Outta not here <hes> in so in nineteen sixty one steve is arrested in Tennessee. He's about seventy years old and it right now on charges of trying to force two sixteen year old girl into his car to sexually assault her the judge finds him three hundred dollars any walks free and and he dies five years later in nineteen sixty six in his fourth rott-weiss. Maybe fits wife's arms yeah Audra Yeah Yeah so that was the story of David Curtis Stevenson AK Steve Wow. Oh isn't crazy that was crazy. Yes Juicy Black Klansman when it came out so good yeah such a good movie yeah on H._B._O.. Now isn't it. Yes yeah <hes> R._A.. I had that's my that's our story. That's our episodes are stores. Were sticking to it. Yeah uh-huh Jackie now that madman is over. What are you watching listening reading camera? I guess what I started yesterday. I started watching scrubs a belief in this is your first time watching it. I watched it when it first came out so right. Now I'm in things that I've seen but obviously not in since it case since it was new like my like my siblings and I would watch it here <hes> but didn't really go past the first season. I don't think so we're going to enter some new territory soon as I it's funny I like it. That's why you <hes> <hes> I'm in finals week so so now solely dying inside but then he won't be in finals anymore yeah and then we'll be back in school again. It's a cycle it's weird. It won't Stop Avenue. It's great. I'm having your time. It's great new learning. I'm learning being <hes> but this brings me joy this. Every every time we get to record. I have so much researching like the stories and listening to your story. Sorry <hes> so you got you. This is my favorite thing going and now we have shirts. Oh yeah join us in our shirt dumb. Everybody shirt dome sweet well. We will catch you guys next week bye. Thanks for tuning into this. Week's episode wrote killer cocktails as always on her talent was Jackie. 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Protecting Voters in a Pandemic
"It's Brian Lehrer. And this is my daily politics by cast from WNYC studios. It's Wednesday march eighteen. Yesterday Democratic presidential primaries took place in Arizona Florida and Illinois amid the Corona Virus Outbreak. But as the twenty twenty calendar marches on states must determine if holding elections is worth the public health risk. Ohio Governor Mike DeWine when against at least a lower court order yesterday to postpone his. State's primary not cancel but even postponing is heavy is a too far fetched to imagine President Trump. Trying something like that in November vanita. Gupta is one of those trying to make sure there is no way that happens. She wants to make sure voter. Rights are upheld as leaders fight to control the virus. We need a Gupta is president and CEO of the nation's oldest and largest civil rights coalition the leadership conference on Civil and human rights. Some of you may know she previously served as the Acting Assistant Attorney General and head of the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division under President Obama. Veneto welcome back to WNYC great to be here. Thank you so much Brian. So Governor Mike DeWine close polling stations before voting in its primary could take place yesterday. Here's dewine insisting on the view that he did not violate a court order and it was not a specific court order We not define court or in fact the Ohio Supreme Court later in the night in a separate case by basically said that the elections could be stopped So we did not defy anything but let me again. Emphasize this is not just a democrat. Primary it is not just a Republican primary nationwide. It is a bunch of local elections as well. So it's Democrats or Republicans going to the polls but this is not about politics about protecting Ohio citizens lives and I as governor. I have the obligation to do everything I can to protect people so the NITA. How do you see what happened in Ohio yesterday? I think that governor's and secretary's the states around the country are Dealing with ever changing fast moving conditions in this country as we all are trying to grapple in real time was really difficult questions And I think what what happened in Ohio. Though was unfortunate in that the governor moved to postpone the election very late And very close in our to the election that created a lot of confusion for voters You know in the state and that was the chaos and confusion. I think could have been averted. Had the governor announced that he was postponing the election or seeking to postpone it days before there are a number of states many states that are now moving to postpone their primaries. And you know I think that the health and safety of voters remains paramount And of crucial concern. I think for the leadership conference and many other civil and human rights organizations that seek to ensure voter protection and voting rights The concern is that we not also can discard our democracy. We've got to be able to protect our democracy and public health at the same time and there are measures. That states need to enact immediately In order to ensure that postponed primaries or primary that are happening later but certainly in advance of the November general election that they are taking these measures and napping them putting them in place To ensure that we are actually ready. None of us know how long this pandemic is going to affect us and for too long states have been kinda versus thing making voting more accessible And that is something that we need to address in very very short order. And so I'm seeing this right. You and your coalition say rescheduling. These upcoming primaries to later dates is a mistake. Is that your position? No that is not our position what we are saying is look states need to assess the local conditions in order to determine whether in person voting and primaries like being held on. The original date is feasible. If they're going to be holding primaries and three states did yesterday the kind of the CDC has provided guidance for how to ensure sanitize ation Face in lines and and and all of that that is critical guidance But we are saying that even beyond If if they decide to postpone or not and we need to stay to be ready in advance of the November election to ensure that there are options like voting by mail with the appropriate guardrails. That need to be put in place by that by extending voting pine to two weeks by ensuring accessible online voter registration and voter education and giving notice voters about changes. That are being made given the pandemic And so those are that's what we are saying. We understand that states are going to be making our. You know their choices about whether they can safely protect the health of their their constituents and their residents while ensuring that there's a plan for Democratic for democracy to continue then so is a relatively simple solution to that to just have every state ramp-up fully mail in primaries like Washington State for example. Already does well you know. I think we support expanding opportunities to vote for all voters which includes no excuse. No excuse vote by mail and early voting and while vote by mail is an option to a lot of people. We also have to remember. It's not available to all voters there. Some voters for example twenty six percent of native Americans in Arizona that don't have a US postal address. They're not going to have access to reliable vote by mail. There are people with disabilities voters with language. Access needs that rely on in person voting the cast their ballot. What we are pushing and yesterday the leadership conference with over two hundred civil rights and voting rights groups put out a list a very concrete measures that states need to enact to ensure that there are several options available that include expanded in person early voting and continued in person voting on election day along with expanded. Vote by mail So that every eligible voter can cast a ballot safely and have accounted in Montclair. You'RE ON WNYC. Hi Dana. Hi Good Morning. I have a question related to the general election so if we start suspending primaries will we have a precedent set that we could spend general election in the fall? Especially if if things die down now and things again heat up again in the fall. what are we to do? Are you worried about that for NITA? Or is that too far fetched? I think any when Louisiana last week announced that serving as primary there was a lot of concern about whether the president could move the general election. Come November I WanNa say pretty clearly that Since all the November election should not Should not be moved but also the president cannot move it The date of the general election is set by federal law. It is been fixed since eighteen. Forty five and it would require an act of. Congress meaning law passed by Congress and signed by the president and subject to challenge in the courts And to call all of these things happening Seizable is really an understatement. I understand this may be why it is good that You know we have a divided. Congress in this instance at the House of Representatives flipped to Democratic majority to kind of end one party rule in Washington But it is hard to imagine a set of circumstances that would convince the House of Representatives to move the date of general election That said right now. State have ample time to get into place measures as I said that would ensure that there are expanded voting options that would allow people to vote by from home. come November and so. There's a list of measures that were calling on to enact but the date of the general election is now we all know that this administration has found ways to undermine the rule of law. And that is what. We are being very very vigilant on but I do think it's important for listeners. In the American public to know that the president himself cannot change the date the general election. So that is going to be reassuring to people who've had this question And Dana is not our only listener. I will tell you who has this question on their minds seeing what happened in Ohio. So you're saying it would take an act of Congress to postpone the election. And since obviously the Democrats control the House of Representatives There's no way that's going to happen. You know this did make me think of some of the examples from New York City history where it did happen or was attempted in New York City after nine eleven mayor Guiliani facing term limits. Just a few months later asked to be extended in office. It didn't happen but I think the Democratic candidate at that time was open to a few months extension for mayor. Giuliani start with a few months. Who knows what happens next. Mayor Bloomberg in two thousand nine successfully sought to suspend term limits for an extra term for himself to at least run for which he won and he used a financial crisis as a reason. So I assume you agree. Those are cautionary tales. I absolutely look I The vigilance that is required in. The moment is heightened Because you know while the the law may hold a certain framework There's a lot of potential to sow confusion For the president to tweet something The day before the general elections has so confusion or to Seek to to delay but what I want to emphasize is that you know. He cannot do that unilaterally. It's not just that it would require an act of Congress that would require being upheld by the court but there is no question that we are going to need to be very vigilant about the And I think states and to do what they need to do it long in advance of the November election to be ready for For the you know the unknowns that are presented by the pandemic we don't know whether we will be dealing with these kinds of conditions You know into the fall and so the states need to be ready but also We have to be ready to to challenge. Any various efforts to so confusion or to seek delays In the November election that are unlawful and unnecessary and then also to make sure that the American public understand you know what is What the legal framework colds and. So there's a lot of work that needs to happen between now and November and this is something that the leadership conference and other organizations are Be Very very about Irvington in Westchester. You're on wnyc Hi Clara. Hi thank you so much for having me My question is about If the current outbreak will be used as a means of disenfranchisement specifically with younger voters I'm sixteen so I can't vote but many of my friends will be voting for the first time and there's already historic Low turnout among young people. So I'm concerned that with the krona outbreak politicians may use it as a way to divert the vote. Yeah it's it's a look it's a really I I think corona virus or not there voter suppression efforts are alive and well in this country and The Corona virus certainly open more opportunities for bad actors to engage in mischief to try to suppress the vote We know that yesterday that primary turnout in some states among young voters is lower. Yesterday's turn out in the states that held primaries was low and that was fully anticipated but we also saw in two thousand eighteen. The midterms young voters team out in droves in record numbers in in major elections that were held in the midterms and so the work that we are doing as a community to ensure that people are civically engaging filling out the census that they're gonNA show up either at the polls should the should In person voting be inappropriate. Come November which you know there as I said. A lot of communities rely on in person voting still Or that they're going to be filling out You know vote ballots by mail or doing no. Excuse absentee ballots. We need to ensure that young people understand what is at stake The November election for a lot of us. This is an this election may be the most important of our lifetimes We have seen civil rights and protections for young people and the issues. That young people care so much about Are mobilizing around in communities all over the country These are the things that are gonna be on the ballot come November and And so it is incumbent on all of us to be messengers for why it is so important for young folks in particular to be engaged in to be pressing former to express their voice in in the election by their votes. Can I ask you Clara by the way Here that urban kin is a great place to be a sixteen year old. But is is your peer group social distancing from each other yeah All of the schools in the area are closing And from the few times that I've been able to spend time with my friends we've been like standing five feet apart from each other. Just as a precaution. So it's tricky. Thank you very much for your call in our last. Few MINUTES VANITA How do you see the pandemic impacting voter misinformation? If at all and how can election leaders prevent that from spreading? Which we know was doing even before the virus. Yeah it's a really important question. I think States have to undertake really aggressive at our education campaigns if they make changes to policies and practices and they have to towner Disinformation whether it's intentional. Along with facts and accurate information we have also at the leadership conference in working with online platforms facebook twitter and Google to have a much more robust policies to take down. This information And and they've been adopting special kind of corona virus related disinformation enforcement to police that and take it down but also to ensure that they have really aggressive policies around taking down just information That could result in voter suppression giving out Information. That is false about Dangers and risks In pep hyping goes up or having people feel apathetic and not engaging in the elections. There's a lot of range of different ways That this information can suppress the vote. through Both online and offline. And so that is this is work that remains really important engagement with online platforms. That can allow the stuff to go viral but also with local and state elected officials Into kind of used bully pulpit for the media to help as well is is incredibly important even as we face this information that is also coming from the mouth of some elected officials. So that's why we have a lot of different challenges in this moment But yet we need to ensure that we are fighting on all fronts to preserve our democracy keeps well keeping people safety and health up first and foremost civil rights leader. Do you see any risks or any indication that something like this might already be happening. That voters of color on the more disadvantaged in the electoral process because of the pandemic than others it certainly would not be new in American history. That went American. Democracy gets a cold. You know people of Color Catching Ammonia Oh Wow that is the perfect analogy. I may have to kind of credit that offer you Brian moving forward but I mean there's there's no donation great I You know we. We already knew there was reports last week about Russian operatives. That were Again like in twenty six fifteen targeting African American voters voters of color was just information about candidates. Disinformation about Participating in the election seeking to have them either stay at home or to You know to not vote at all or to give out this information that would result and suppression and And so you know. This is on steroids now. The Corona Virus What is operatives do is and I think domestic and foreign That seek to suppress vote. And we'll tergat specifically voters of color and blocked motors With this information corona virus only kind of adds to people's anxiety and fears. That are real right now to people's insecurities In gives them another kind of front to engage. A what these operas tend to do is take our own vulnerabilities as a nation. They racism being one of them in the history of racial discrimination in voting is a long and storied one in this country And to seek to manipulate and leverage it to suppress the vote and the corona virus presents. Get another opportunity for them to do it and it's wipe for our communities and communities of color. We also have to do a lot of self education to make sure that our communities understand that there are very manipulative forces at play that are seeking to kind of exploit these These things right now and that could have a dramatic impact on our democracy. So we've got a lot of public education work to do as well the need to Gupta President and CEO of the nation's oldest and largest civil rights coalition the leadership conference on Civil and human rights. She was acting assistant. Attorney General Head of the Civil Rights Division under President Obama. Thank you so much for your time. Today let our democracy go forth and elect either this president again or a new president. But let it happen. Thank you very much. Thank you Brian and listeners. We want to invite you in on the conversation too. If you've got a question about our national news item whether it's something you want to know about the election or the trump administration or anything else you think might fall under the national politics umbrella. Give us a call and leave us a message with your name where you're calling from and your question will collect those and keep them in our pocket for when I'm speaking with someone who can give you a good answer. The number is eight. Four four seven four five talk. That's eight four. Four seven four five eight two five five eight four four seven four five talk. See You tomorrow afternoon.
Gios Doppler, Als Knee Pads And Jerrys Update
"Warriors keep this NBA finals going with a one point victory in game five head back door goal and game. Six Jerry is gonna have the details on that, of course, subway series rained out last night after they collected your parking in your food, and all that stuff. Then sent you home, which is the exact opposite of what I thought they were going to do is I was praising the Yankees for the most part doing the right thing with these rain outs. And then all of a sudden you have one of these situations on your hands. Good morning, Jerry. Woody are I just say talk about this all Yankee thing, and the, the postponement and all that stuff. There are a lot of things that go into this, okay. And, you know, I, I know for a fact and I do believe this in my heart to be very, very true. Did try to call it earlier. They wanted to call it earlier and major league baseball would not allow them to do that. Topi Yankee bitch. I also I all thanks governor Christie. I also I also know that because of the off day on. Wednesday that the major league baseball and the major league Baseball Players Association like to protect those home off days. And the reason they do that. I believe is because players. No one of those off days are players scheduled things for those off days. It could be something to do with their kids could be something to do with a dentist could be something to do with anything and appearance or whatever. So they don't like to move a game to a day where it's scheduled off and the guys are at home. Isn't there some sort of high school, as the PSA L highschool channel? So they also that conflict as well. So there are a lot of things that go into this. The thing I know that everybody's ticked off about, and I would be too, is if I had to park my car car for forty bucks. Yep. Across the street or more. And I was also reminded the Yankees do not own that parking garage. That's not money that goes into the pockets by the way. No of. Like he still goes out of the fans pockets. I know that it goes outta there should be ticked. But you should be ticked, let's face it. Major league baseball. I mean we all knew yesterday. What the weather looked like talking about. I mean at six o'clock in the morning. I said I'd be shocked that they played. I can I add can't figure out what you were twelve hours ahead of everybody. No, I think I wasn't with this one. Yes, I'm gonna I'm I will take credit for this one. I'm big radar guy. I'm a big Doppler fan. I got a couple of different radars and got the high def rate or when you're a boater, boomer, you need to be paying attention to the weather. I've got a wind predict app. I'm all over that stuff by, by the way, you do know that the great south bay some places like two feet deep. Oh, yeah. I know all about all right? Just follow the buoy you gotta have experience. You know today would not be a good day to be out on the on the water. Well, that rain's gonna push through will be a little bit windy though later so. Right. It's a probably be blown about against the Hebrew home tonight. L you're ready to roll. I am ready to roll. All right. We have batting practice and everything. Don't stand so close to the home plate. And I'm talking about when you're hitting, I'm into about when you're in the field, because the last time something like this happened where we hadn't played for a while. And we had our first batting practice, that's where you hurt your shit. Let's third base. It was third base. We were using the green hard balls. And that was actually in Brooklyn. Are you going to be wearing your shin pads? Yeah. Okay. That's I know I've seen them. They're combo shin pad knee pad, depending on where what I'm doing smart shin pad pay. Nice brought to you by carrier turn to the experts and visit carries around. Knees L flash dealer. Leave me alone. We'll get back to the baseball and the second. But a lot of layers to this basketball game last night. I the actual game itself warriors were down six with about three minutes to go, and they came firing back. Behind the back. Dribble baseline, take a dollar touch after by the tops pump fake fly by three ball. That they sex sex ago warriors backed up by three Toronto Paul's time made at one six one zero three at the time. Now, the raptors would get to within one six one five, you'd get the illegal screen from DeMarcus cousins would give them all back to them with not much time on the clock. But time for one last chance, and here's how that went as her that was Tim ROY, by the way and warriors radio. Here's Paul Jones with the final seconds on raptors radio championship on the line for Toronto. Ten seconds to go. They give it to Leonard straight away against toxin. They cleared out. He drives. Right. Double double-count gets it to Bentley into the corner. Lowery's jumper walked and Golden State wins. It was it blocked, or it was just missed tip locked mongering at one angle that they show, it'll beginning h he missed badly, but either way it didn't go in and they lose one zero six one five and I saw this on ESPN. They were sixty five in oh this year when they had a six point lead with three minutes to go in a game now. Yeah. As long as the coach, not calling time out to take them out of their rhythm. That's Nick nurse. Well, we had two free ones that you lose under the three minute Mars. And we just came across and, and just decided to give those guys arrests. Did you get the warriors? And he stopped the flow. The gay, I just had to watch the and you're sitting there if you're watching the game two out the night and all of a sudden last five minutes of the game starts, and that's really wanted all matters. Right. Quiet Leonard takes the game over right? And straight at one point got him. It was unbelievable. The one rebound he had. And then the I mean he was he was doing every was everything timeout. Doing has a plane to. Well, we gotta make sure his name is a little bit closer. Yeah. And it's exactly what the warriors needed. Steph curry had thirty one Thompson twenty six that's all the good for Golden State. They stay alive. They're down three games to two. Here's the bad off the screen. It's a block guy says defended dragged goes to what well not hurt. He's hobbling off the pocket goes up foul by holding his right leg. Yup. Looks like in the same place. I don't want to speculate. I people are cheering an injury. Yeah, it was a weird weird scene in Toronto. And as they believe it's a torn achilles hard to argue with what we're seeing on TV and what we saw in terms of the fans cheering the injury Kyle Lowry. I don't think defense knew the significance of the injury day, kind of just seeing them. We're down in this league. We're all brothers today were brothers ends of this, a small brotherhood, and you, you never want to see a competitor like him. It was one of the guys kind of waving the crackdown. Mike. You know. The raptors parts that a hell of a job. And then, you know to the credit of the raptors fans when he was walking off the court. They were, you know chins initials. K D K dis, there was Kerr's along close eighteen seconds, but he was courier on that whole scenario lived here. Really? Enjoy the people and our passion and excitement for no, the game just. When you come into just enjoy life, and they're nice people. Very confused around that reaction. Yeah, very strange in terms of winning but losing Durant? Here was Steve Kerr, so bizarre. Feeling that we all have right now, here was Klay Thompson, the impact of now, he went on this thing about how people out there believe that maybe they're better without Durant. He says nonsense, the impact of not having him is pretty obvious with him. We are really want to believe one of the greatest teams to play without him. We're really good team. But still coming around out there like I said before one of the greatest ever. Now Bob Myers as their GM he was talking about the injury afterwards. Seven headed it's it's an achilles injury. I don't know. The extent of it. He'll have an MRI tomorrow and in terms of responsibility for all this. I don't believe there's anybody to blame. But I understand this world. And if you have to. You can blame me. I run our best ball operations department. Now, I hate to be a cynic like Greg on this one. So I saw this at one thirty in the morning. We all did. And I buy it right. I don't now actor knows interesting. I saw Michael wilpon ESPN, you know, standing there on the court and he was like you know what it was really emotional off to the side, you could see. He was really broken up about it. But I do agree watching the press conference and not seeing any of that other stuff. It looks phony. Yeah. And usually guys who cry they actually cry like there's tears and stuff and amp to stop the guy. The head Cryer is Mark Messier special sports and is that guy cries rise. I mean, there's no question. I that's a man. That that is. Like you know, they always talk about how you were grown man. Mark Messier is like a grown man any product. And when he cries everybody cry, even Sean Avery cry. Sure. Everybody cries with Mark and Mark knows how to do it. He knows how to do a publicly and it just the FEC solve us when he does it. Yeah. Now this I understand that this didn't look like that last. Walkabout that Jerry, I don't know if he's that much emotion. Well, I'm sure there was. But when if someone tells you act like you're crying in your broken up, that's how you would sound like if you have to blame somebody. You blame me if you have to I know this world works like he's just he's trying to he's acting a Sean in Connecticut. What's happening? Johnny. Yes. Yes gio. My man boomer. You guys. This is a gift in Knicks universe. You guys g. Oh, you're driving me crazy. I'm driving to work the speech on. Oh, the skies are collapsing. Finally now, finally all taken away from us. We have to do it the right way. We are forced to rebuild with our number one picks with our, our GM with our new coach and to just slug it out. No shortcuts no free agents to save the day. Let's do this, the right way, one year at a time and build a sustaining winning culture for the Knicks discuss long. Then, you know. No, no. Of course, is an excellent draft picks. Right. Right. I mean, she's making everybody Bisbal Josh on all these draft picks are gonna work out. Right. You know what? You're like. Why would you want a healthy best player in the NBA and your team? You'll join your team out of nowhere for no reason. Why would you want that? No, no. You know what you're like the Knicks version like you're the Knicks fans version of the, the war is GM Bob Myers. Like that's what it sounded like. You know, I know you're you're really affected by this. I mean the only thing that was missing was the tears. Yeah. I mean, I'm close quite honestly, I have tried to be positive throughout this whole thing. I've tried. I went I went to a crystal shop for Christ sakes. I sat here did everything I broke out my old Alan Houston jersey and my old Knicks winner. Jack. I did all that. And then on top of that after the draft lottery, didn't go the Knicks way and they didn't get Williamson the number one overall pick. I said, it's all about free agency. It's all about one guy. It's all about the rent. Now. It's about July person Durant. He just went down in a heap. Now it's over. What about as has player quiet Leonard? What about him simple? He's not coming to the naught because he's just not he's gonna gonna win a championship with the raptors he gonna stay there. There's going to be a statue of him like thirty seconds after the buzzer goes off in game seven when they win the championship. And he's staying that statue should have been commissioned last night. You're right in a way that, and if he doesn't if he doesn't stay there, he's going to California, he's not going to the Knicks. They think there was a reason why Durant wanted to go to the Knicks with his weird like legacy thing and his agents New York Knicks fan, all the which is all lineup lenders not coming to the next. Perhaps, you would think R J Barrett. Will he had a workout with thinks yesterday, and that's exactly what his desires are this place? I want to be. Yeah. So, you know. Good. I like him. I do. I do like game. I hope they keep them and hopefully turns into a superstars nothing negative. I could say about him. I'm glad he wants to be Nick, he'd he does Tony hill sound like it is. I mean, I'm just like I don't know. It's not that hard to understand, like every every dream that I had this offseason, just went was flushed down the toilet last night. So I mean, I'm sorry. It's just the now just another bad year of either bad decisions in free agency or more rebuilding. It's just there's basketball doesn't exist in New York. It just doesn't. I, I saw I saw Saint John's go to the tournament, you know, have a disappointing year. Now, they're on another six-year rebuild. I had a dream of the Knicks turn into a superstar team in one off season and that went down. I don't best what doesn't exist basketball doesn't exist in my life. It just doesn't. I gotta root for other teams I have to get into other teams to enjoy basketball it sick like I dotted, the frigging Denver Nuggets, because Nikola Jokic because I like the way pass. Find other things like basketball because basketball in this city sucks, the nets because they're totally irrelevant. So don't even give me that garbage a hamster wheel of Thurs terrible. It's terrible. I mean I swear like, like I remember that the Eljay four point play game. We were both there, and it was the greatest moment. I went back to watch greatest moment ever. Is a great moment. Whatever we're parsing. Let's read moment was greatest show. I wasn't. I wasn't alive. So this, this was incredible. Right. So, and then I went to the anniversary of that just passed. I cried when wo three KOMO locker room. So the anniversary of that, just passed I watched that video, it looked like it was from nineteen Forty-five ago. It's kind of like the movie Chernobyl serious journal on HBO feel the same way, grainy video, it'd be it was so long ago, they don't have any moment since then none, zilch. Moments after that off of what Carmelo now Patrick Ewing. What are you talking about? That was the same year. L J, four J pilots, talking about the war three deal. Yeah, I know. I don't know why that was in the middle of the four point play. Oh, I thought, but you did. Well, okay. Never mind. It's just you're all over the place on the very consistent with what. Very, very negative. How come I supposed to be positive today explained to me, explain to me, how supposed to be positive? Kapil Cocco, man. You got number dance ROY. That's why out. That's why positive I'm thinking of cap, okay? Xactly well for those of us care about the Knicks more than anything else. Well today socks and there's no two ways around it. I'm sorry, there's no sugar coating in after the draft lottery. I could sugarcoat it fine. I could because she was still there now. Free agency is blown up in our faces. It's got. So enjoy it to another six, seven years of suck. The tude in his team being a frigging joke everybody in the league the hamster wheel of turds of suck the toot. It's just it's, it's. The worst. It's the worst. Hell, it's sports. Hell, why do we do this to ourselves? Why, why do I. It makes no sense. And then I just want just put the Mets and the Knicks, Saint John's and the Vikings blues IRS which at the Vikings. They're going to have one of a good team what Kirk cousins like driving to win the game of throw a pick or sack fumble. And we'll see some guy like running down the field. The Philadelphia Eagles going back to the Super Bowl. Colorado, for staying home this great and good for him. Thirty six million dollars. Awesome. All right. I mean did you see the bar? So how about how about this? Little Ray of sunshine. Did did you see the off off duty firemen taken on the biker yesterday? Almost run the bike Rover on the street. I doubt would be interesting if that guy in Sean Avery each other. Yeah. There isn't Sean Avery news out there. You have to get to it some point. Yes, I'm sorry, Jerry, you mentioned Yankees will play to today, twelve twenty five and later. Tonight at seven go out, you get to watch the game today at twelve o'clock. Well, one oh five but coverage twelve twenty five here on the fan. Vargas will pitch tonight. Not as he won't be able to enjoy because it'll be thinking about the drive of state, and of course, the nap is low. We don't refer to irvington is up. So it's that's not upstate. It's close julep downstate doesn't mean that that's upstate. I was I was calculating the miles that GIO will do today. Yes. And I brought up a, a website that would tell me other places he could have gone in those miles. So, for example, the amount of miles, you do today, you could have driven to Washington. DC. And then some you could have driven to this. In. Austin? Damore. Why not help you? I'm back back. Go go check out the, the Lincoln moment. You a longer bigger Binghamton guys. It's a lovely town. But yeah, it was just far away, sixty four sixty four seventy three seventy three. Yeah. You could have been in Boston. Now, I'll give them the bestest nation that we discuss. What's that? Oh, Antero could get to Ontario. Ended up well, part of unparalleled this the lowest part, but still I hate your guts. Oh man.
Pizza Hut vs Domino's | The Pizza Confession | 6
"April two, thousand, nine Domino's headquarters and Arbor. Michigan. Communications vice-president Tim mcintire swigs his morning coffee and checks the email this just landed. Some blogger asking about something on youtube. McIntyre Click the link he C- Shaky camera phone footage to uniformed employees in Domino's kitchen. He turns up the. Volume. And watches in horror. McIntyre's jaw drops as he watches a guy sneeze on domino's cheese stick then buried the snot with his finger. And then we'll watch him box it and then send it out onto the To be served some unlucky customer that's in need of psalms not. McIntyre seeds with rage he checks the number of views half a million. Oh He refreshes the page the views lead to almost six hundred thousand. He's got to shut this down fast. McIntyre, fires often email alerting senior management, the head of security and the newly formed social media team. Next, he contacts Youtube and pleads for the video taken down. Dominoes, social media, cheap bursts into McIntyre's office. This is terrible and it's all over social media. People are demanding what we're doing about it and why we're not saying anything. The reason for the silence is simple. Domino's is still a month out from adopting any kind of social media presence and companies only just seen the video. But in the everything now, Social Media Echo Chamber silence equals admission of guilt. MCINTYRE MAKES SNAP decision. Launch the social media accounts right away start answering questions tell people were sickened by this disgusting behavior that we don't yet know where it happened, but we won't rest until we find these people and when we do, we will see criminal charges. McIntyre noses is inbox filling up with emails from journalists seeking comment. He refreshes the video seven, hundred thousand views. By lunchtime, it'll be more than a million. And if Domino's doesn't stop the damage fast. It's reputation who get torn apart. Forever. 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It's been six hours since communications vice president Tim McIntyre got sent the Youtube video of to domino's workers loading a cheese stick with snot. The videos now had a million views, the social media teams engulfed in a blizzard of posts from outraged customers and the stories on TV news. Dwell enters McIntyre's office. It feels like he stepped into a war room phones are ringing off the hook staff rushing around with fear and there is the grabs McIntyre. Jim? What's the latest securities located the store where a franchise in North Carolina they fired the culprits. Only teenagers would do something that idiotic but these two were in the thirties. Unbelievable. Good news is we check the orders. The food they tampered with never left the store was all a prank, but we're still pushing for criminal charges we need to show we won't tolerate this. What's next? Well, let's keep this in perspective. There's three, hundred, million Americans, and most of them know nothing about this. We need to focus on the people who do know about it. So we need you to put out a Youtube video reassuring people that were on it. I've got a camera ready and waiting down the hall. Okay. We the way. Soon after Doyle's address appears on Youtube. There is nothing more important or sacred to us than our customers trust. We're reexamining all of our hiring practices to make sure that people like this don't make it into our stores. It sickens me. That the actions of two individuals could impact our great system. Doyle's video gains, little traction but with the former employees heading to court and the connor store getting deep cleaned. The crisis subsides. But the incident highlighted another problem for the pizza giant. Beneath the video or dozens of comments slamming dominos pizza as mass produced boring, and bland some compare the crust cardboard. Getting harder and harder for the company to ignore its bad reputation. It's two thousand nine and in the Domino's conference room doyle winces and interrupts the researcher who's giving a presentation to him and his senior team. Chuck E. Cheese people think are pizzas as bad as chucky cheese. The kids are arcade place. Man That's a low blow. The researcher folks are arms. I'm just the Messenger but yes, Domino's and chucky cheese both score last out of all of the national pizza chains on perception of the food quality. But people do appreciate how efficient and reliable domino's is to order from. Should I move onto the taste tests? Doyle nods. Okay Domino's came in mid range in the blind taste tests not great but not bad. However, your score dropped significantly when we did not blind tests doyle frowns hold up hold up. I WanNa make sure I understand you right. Are you saying that when people know they're eating Domino's pizza tastes worse yes. That's what our taste tests found. Doyle slumps into a chair? Deep down he's known for months that taste dominos weakest link he sees it and how is POWs look away when he suggests ordering Domino's he sees it in the steady slide in sales and in the online criticism and as the man set to become CEO in a few months time. It's his problem defects. After the researcher Leaves Doyle Turns to his dejected team. This can't go on small improvements to the menu won't change perceptions. We're too far gone for that. We need something big something daring. The two marketing executives in the room glance at each other then one of them speaks up. How Daring? Dui. We got an idea but it's bold. Really bold. Well, not so much bold more do or die. I'm open anything right now. Doyle listen as the marketing executives running through their idea when they finish. He looks shocked. Wow. That is bold and blunt really blunt. what's Plan B if it doesn't work. The marketing executive shrugs there's no plan B if we do this and it fails Domino's finished. There's no coming back. Doyle stares out of the window deep in thought. Then, he turns back to his team. I might be about to become the shortest serving CEO in American history but. I. Think we need to do this it's risky, but it feels right. So. Yeah, let's tell everyone our pizza sucks. In December two, thousand, nine Domino's launches pizza turnaround a campaign where it admits to delivering sub-standard Pizza. Company rolls out. ADS featuring criticism from real life customers and heartfelt promises to do better. There comes a time when you know you've got to make a change. Pizza where's the love? Bread sauce cheese fresh ingredients doesn't feel like there's much loving domino's pizza. I hear what some folks are saying about her stuff. That's one's bad. Worst excuse for pizza. I've ever had this off tastes like catch up totally avoid flavor. Can either use negative comments to get you down or you can use them to excite you and energize your process of making a better pizza. We did the latter. Just. Add a little salt or add a little something to the recipe I. Mean we basically had to start over with a new recipe. I can't wait to have people try it and it's not even about being right. It's about US having great food. Domino's pizza. Confession. Works. Aided by price cuts and a money back guarantee to anyone who thinks the new pizza isn't better. Sales. Boom. By February demand is rising. So Fast Domino's nearly runs out of pepperoni. In the first quarter of two, thousand, ten, the chains US sales jumped fourteen percent. To maintain the momentum domino's announces it'll no longer use doctored photos of its food in marketing. Instead, it'll use photos sent in by its own customers. The News lifts sales even higher. Then, the company Turns Times Square billboard into a live twitter feed displaying both positive and negative tweets about domino's and yet again, sales grow. By opening up about its shortcomings, demonstrating its determination to improve domino's transforms its fortunes. And that's bad news for America's top pizza maker. The two thousand ten's aren't going well for hut. It sales are slipping and it's hundreds of iconic but dated red roof restaurants are now millstones around its neck. And competitor's are attacking on multiple. Fronts. Papa John's is making a play for the lucrative game night pizza crowd by sponsoring the NFL little caesars value pizzas are luring away the customers who still haven't recovered from the great recession and fast casual chains like California pizza kitchen are nibbling away at its dining trade. But Pizza Hut's about to fire back. In September twenty fourteen and at the pizza. Hut Academy in Plano Texas today's lesson is underway. A blonde haired woman in blue jeans patrols, the Food Prep area and the academy's Kitchen. She's Jen, Weber the company's Dean of Pizza. Along the length of Food Prep Station or pizza hut managers from across America and they're busy assembling pies. Weber peers over the shoulder of west. Virginia. Franchise owner. Excellent work. Now add the dice Roma tomatoes. She walks down the line and stops at a manager who's applying a spiral of balsamic drizzle to his completed pizza. Tip for next time, start the spiral from the outside and words in just like you would when layering Pepperoni, it makes it easier to apply the drizzle correctly. This is a busy time for Weber she's training hundred store managers and area managers, day? By the time she's done she'll have trained thirteen hundred people to make Pizza Hut's new pizzas and soon for students will be passing that knowledge on onto thousands of kitchen workers. The new menu is no minor tweak. It's the biggest change to Pizza Hut's food since the Carney brothers founded the business in nineteen fifty eight. New. Menu gives customers a mix and match choice of ten crusts, six sauces, five drizzles and new ingredients like fresh spinach meatballs and sliced banana peppers. The company hopes it'll tap into America's growing taste for exotic experimental flavors. In, all the new menu offers two billion combinations so many that you'd need more than twenty lifetimes of eating three pizzas a day to try them all. But the COST OF INTRODUCING THIS MENU Sky High. In addition to the training, Pizza Hut and its franchisees are spending millions, refitting kitchens, printing menus, building new supply chains, and buying new utensils. The, companies also updating its logo and switching it staff over to a new T. shirt and jeans uniform to create a more modern casual by. and. That's all before a single dollar spent promoting the new options. It takes months and millions to get the new menu ready to go. But finally in November twenty fourteen, it goes live nationwide Pizza Hut's new menu has six bold sauce once. You are Marinara is classic but the other sauces take pizza where it's never been before there's money Sarah. Why don't you try the buffalo sauce? No. Okay. How about premium crush tomato run SOCIETA actually six. Classic Marinara plus our other five. All right. Get a pair of pizzas classic or new for six, nine, thousand, nine, each the flavor of now menu get it at pizzahut dot com. But the flavor of now doesn't move the dial. America barely seems to notice pizza. Hut's new offer of endless choice, low calorie crusts and pretty worlds of balsamic drizzle. The following quarter, the new menu lifts sales just one percent. Ends five consecutive quarters of decline. But it's a poor return on investment. And with Domino's resurgent Pizza Hut's long reign is the world's biggest pizza chain. Is under serious. threat. 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Take a seat everyone. Pizza Hut executives don't know why creeds summoned them there but the look on his face suggests it's serious. Creed shuts the door adjusts his glasses and addresses the room. Beta. Huts going stale sales the down two percent in two thousand, thirteen down three percent in two thousand fourteen. The flavor of now menu hasn't stopped the slide. Meanwhile, Domino's is up five percent in two, thousand, thirteen, seven percent in two, thousand fourteen, and set to rise this yet to. I think the problem is pizza hut lacks focus. So. Creed reaches into his pants pocket and pulls out a key. Is the key to this room. I'm leaving now I'm locking the door behind me. None of you leaving here until you come up with a clear brand identity text me when you're done. With that creed waltzes out and locks them in. Nine, hours later, creed gets a text message on his phone. He checks it and smiles. It's from Jeff Fox Pizza Hut's chief brand officer. It reads we got an answer. Can we please please please leave the room now. Soon after Fox, briefs create on the fruits of the Pizza Hut teams nine hour lockdown. Our conclusion is easy beats better. We focused on making pizza but paid too little attention to making customers lives easier. Delivery is where the growth in pizza is right now, and we're slower than our competition and our online ordering isn't slick enough. We gotta make it easier to be a pizza hut customer. Creed nuts not I get any thoughts on how to do it. Hiring more drivers would reduce delivery times. We also think we should remodel the restaurant so we can offer people faster dining experience. However, the most obvious step is to improve digital ordering. But Pizza Hut's got of catching up to do because domino's is already using tech to make ordering pizzas effortless. Domino's customers can order on Google Home Amazon's Alexa twitter users can order by tweeting the company of, Pizza Emoji and they can even use the new apple watch APP to send for. Pizza But Domino's tech drive isn't stopping there. Domino's has revolutionized pizza delivery. Once again, the pizza chain giant has transformed Chevrolet spark into a custom piece delivering machines. We are fueled took notice and went to our local domino's to learn more about the car and test drive. October twenty fifteen and domino's touting its new delivery vehicle the DAX pe- as the future of pizza. The XP comes loaded with features. There's room for eighty pizza boxes dedicated storage for dips and cold drinks and a built in warming oven. Few people will ever get a pizza delivered by D. XP. Domino's will only build one hundred and fifty, but that's not the point. The DSP PR masterstroke earning domino's millions of dollars worth of attention and reinforcing its image is the front runner and pizza delivery. Pizza Hut finds itself stuck in Domino's shadow. By, the Time Pizza Hut's APP ads order tracking in two thousand seventeen. Domino's is already testing GPS tracking of its drivers. So customers can follow their pizzas journey from store to front door. And in two thousand seventeen domino's hot streak delivers the victory it's craved for decades twelve point, two, billion dollars in sales. Topping Pizza, Hut's annual hall for the First Time In history. Domino's honesty about its old venue singular focus on delivery and harnessing of new technology has one out. It's taken domino's sixty years to claim pole position. In that time, it's endured constant setbacks. It's nearly gone bust three times and watched its headquarters burn. It lost its founder to God and was forced to drop its thirty minute delivery pledge and it survived Youtube Pranksters and overcome its reputation for terrible pizza. But now as the twenty twenties begin both Domino's and Pizza Hut. Have more than each other to fred about. It's May twenty twenty and the Corona Virus lockdowns in effect in Irvington New Jersey. Domino's driver pulls to a stop a red light at a junction in a usually busy part of town. But right now, the only other people he sees on the road or other delivery drivers ferrying food people's homes. The lockdown is causing an explosion of orders for home delivery and the big chains are racing to hire extra drivers to meet the surge in demand. Across the junction the driver sees a Papa John's car idling. At the little caesars on the Corner Adore Dash driver races out the door with to pizza boxes in a nearby parking bay and. Workers Retrieves Large Burger. King bag from his vehicle. It's like this all over. Across the world a swarm of third party delivery companies are bringing not just pizza but all kinds of hot food to people's doorsteps. And right now, the pizza giants are grappling with the question of how to respond. Should they treat these new players as friend or foe? Domino's has already made its choice. It believes the extra sales the upstarts promised doesn't justify the twenty-five percent slice of prophets they typically want in return. Instead. It's trusting in its own ability to provide customers with a superior experience and lower prices. Pizza Hut owner yum brands is taking a different approach sizing up the potential for an alliance that could supply a new set of customers. And help win back its. What is certain? Is that the rivalry between Domino's pizza hut. Won't fade away. The Domino's drivers sees a pizza hut vehicle full up on his left. The two rival drivers glance at each other. then. They look back at the dark road ahead. Rev their. Engines. From wondering this is episode six, Pizza Hut versus Domino's for business wars. On the next episode we're joined by PIZZA INDUSTRY EXPERTS SAM. The editorial director of Food News Media A B to be media company covering the fast casual industry. We'll discuss the present and possible future of these companies the pizza industry general and how Domino's and pizza hut are adapting during the pandemic. If. You like our show please give us a five star rating and a review and be sure to tell your friends subscribe on Apple Podcasts, spotify the wonder e APP or wherever you're listening right now and to listen to episodes one week early joined one replace. You'll also find some links and offers from our sponsors. The episode notes supporting them helps us keep offering our shows for free. Another way you could support the show is by filling out a small survey at one. Dot Com. Slash survey and tell us which business stories you'd like to hear a quick note about re-creations you've been hearing in most cases we can't know exactly what was said though Caesar dramatization, but they're based on historical research, and if you'd like to learn more about domino's rise to the top checkout Marciel late and Turner's book the Domino's story. I'm your host David Brown tristen Donovan wrote this story Karen Low is our senior producer and editor edited and produced by Emily, frost sound designed by Kyle Randall. Our executive, producer? J.. Lower back Monday marshal Louis created by earn on Lopez four wondering. After years of chronic back pain, Philip Mayfield discovered spinal surgeon, Dr Christopher, Dodd, and his glowing reviews. The promised to fix you words the Philip desperately wanted to hear but after his surgery he woke up and excruciating pain and couldn't feel his legs he thought to himself what did he do to me and while he didn't know it yet, he'd never walk again and Mayfield was one of the lucky ones Dr Death is a true story about our healthcare system, a system we trust with our lives. But as you'll see, sometimes it isn't us that the system is built to protect listen to Dr Death on Apple podcasts spotify stitcher or wherever you're listening right now.
Kryie To Brooklyn?
"They stole my game that got Durant. I got the flu. I something that's not hit me the wrong way. Hello and welcome to a highly questionable Wednesday. This man fracturing ESPN's dress code more every day. They forced me to wear a jacket on television, sitting next to my old man is a meal has what do you like on the show today? I mean I wore a jacket, what are you talking about? Look ridiculous. I like talking about Caray irvington, the Brooklyn alad, Bobby. If through sluice tonight is serious over. All right. This question should just be would you guys. Please talk about the series that we have tonight because we have a contract with basketball. They're big important games where a partner talk about this game tonight because if the raptors lose tonight or either loses tonight. No. It doesn't signal much of anything. Yes, the warriors are vulnerable. I understand the question. You're saying, Kevin Durant is coming back soon. But I am not promising anyone that Kevin Durant in his very first game back is going to actually be Kevin Durant, Toronto is the toughest test that this team had seen and the best defense that this team has seen they could lose tonight. They're still going to make it a series. I like how we skip the overreacting after the game. And now we're overreacting before the game. No. Even if they lose the warriors are more vulnerable than they've ever been Dan Durant. You say he might come back. He might not come back Klay. Thompson doesn't look good for him even if he plays as one hamstring tavon. Looney out of the series. And that's not even mentioning DeMarcus cousins who still trying to work his way back. And with also playing her even if the raptors lose tonight they have to believe that between their defense and the play of quite Leonard. They've got an opportunity to come back on Friday, win and take home court advantage back to Toronto. She'll, we feel badly for them are Rawson Bleacher report caught up with the Spurs guard and look at what he had to say here, this candidate thing is going crazy. And he's got a feel left out. Let's to my thinking watching the rafters playing. So what is Damara thinking? Say like my best friend is. So room for my best right when volley years and groundwork that I did before they're none things. Yes, I've fought Sega Feis push the limits to where I would be the cycle fishing lamb. So the rhetoric around Toronto has been very rosy about how everyone is part of this, the twenty five years of Toronto. Raptors history has led them to this bring, and so the modules and health make this finals trip possible. But let's be honest, it's a business he got traded for a better player. And that's really, what happened here can understand empathize with the modules and thinking that the reason why they didn't have success in the past, was they get running into LeBron James, and now that LeBron has gone east, he at least deserves a chance to try to get to the next level with LeBron out of the way. But again, he got traded for a better player. How about this is the X who still a little bit in love with everything going on where she was, or he was, and that x has saddled up with a partner, that's better than yours who's taken them farther? He's the hurt act. And it makes sense that he would be hurting now watching this kind of lower he's taking places by another that he wished. He was taking feel bad for demar the Rosen. You know what real bad for? Who's that Casey, that's really got it? He got a role deal here. You know he got there. He was or you know, after I've done it were eliminated. They should these. That's real bad. Within it. Spear smart to send carrier Vigne, not one, but two professional gasp, eggs, Colin coward, and Stephen Smith yesterday, say they're hearing all sorts of things about Kyrie Irving already having decided to go to Brooklyn when many of us thought that New York with more cap space was the landing place for him. And Kevin Durant, the nets are going to have options here. I mean they are attractive. They mismanage their way to great success, because they had a lot of bed contracts that got away from them because of matching offers and whatnot. Now they find themselves in a position where they can wait for Kevin Durant, and settle for Cairo serving. A little conflicted about the Kyrie Irving part here because if you look at the necessary young team with a lot of cats fish, and you say, oh, all they need is to lead them to the promised land. If only there was the way that we can see what be like that. Kyrie Irving joined a young team and try to lead. Oh, wait. They did that involve didn't work at all because he's really not that great of a leader. And so if you're the Brooklyn nets, yes. He's a talent. He's all NBA guard. But are you better off keeping the Endel Russell would be a much cheaper proposition and going after someone else to add to your roster rather than getting a guy who at least in recent his shown can be? Got a jerk with us. I wouldn't even do the leadership thing with Kyrie Irving. I would ask you is legitimate. Number one, look at the east and the players in the Leonard is better than him. Philadelphia might have two guys better than him. There are a lot of guys in the Eastern Conference a little bit better than Kyrie Irving. We've only seen him succeed as a to. The Knicks this. With anyone might have mixed again, you ready, Kemba Walker leading the New York Knicks in the next season. Do they wish to hire GM by draft day? How hard is it to replace Ernie Grunfeld who was terrible in Washington, for good longtime stay there for a good long time? And now after months of searching, they still don't have a GM and this question is interesting because it looks like typical bumbling wizard with their bad roster until you consider they might be waiting for Toronto to stop playing games. So they could go after the best general manager in the league who might want to be in Washington instead of in Canada. Oh, wow. You just stole my thunder. I'm the one that broke that news. I think I just broke it. What is the news? What news? Breaking the idea that the reason why they don't have a general manager yet is because of certain general managers, busy with the NBA finals and can't do in his new team. And so, yes, ladies and gentlemen, year. He might be the big target on the rise for the Washington Wizards. But if not if not there's another guy here who's got. A great shot. Let's Tommy Sheppard. He's the acting. Interim general manager is with the wizards for quite a long time. And here's the deal, ten Leo's is the owner is been known for his loyalty. One of the reasons why Ernie Grunfeld kept his job as long as he did. So it would stand to reason that they would trust. Tommy Sheppard and maybe wanna keep time he's ever, because that wilty factor doesn't just switch off. What news does? He think he broke. It might be Jerry. You broke my news. Like what news were just broken by where did you hear that messiah was candidate? I just figured it up because Washington doesn't jiggle reading here from you. You didn't tell me that liars have breaking news breaking news. We servers my higher raptors general manager. Yeah. What you deserve the wizards. I like that name better than the wizard. He's baking benigo neither by calling out, Duke Johnson. He's doing something you don't see quarterbacks do very often which is pick aside against the teammate. Here's some of the backstory here, do Johnson is unhappy in Cleveland. He's hurt by the fact that Cleveland put him on the trading block a month ago and now he's coming to camp. But everyone knows that he is as for trade in return. So Baker Mayfield is saying, hey, you're either with us or you're against us. It's this huddle and only this huddle. And if he doesn't want to be on this train, then he can take another train and Baker Mayfield is doing something that's probably appreciated in his locker room by everyone except do Johnson, who has been professional about this and just got buried by not only him, but also the coach who said, hey, I want to win the lottery doesn't matter whether you want to be traded. You gotta come play him fulfill your contract. This is a really weird thing. I don't know what you said the locker room probably was fixed Baker Mayfield for that. I don't think so. I think players usually across sports respect when a guy's going to a business decision. And also, that's getting traded is he doesn't come to play football because it's fun. He doesn't come because interview he comes because he's trying to provide a living for his family. And that's with Nick chub. And now Kareem hunt also being added to that team makes us do John's going to get less carries. Let's touches, let's opportunities which means he'll make less money on this contract. And as we know running backs don't have long shelf life in terms of the years that they can play this the sleep. So the idea Baker Mayfield. Will call them out is kind of weird, man. It's not cool. I don't think and I don't know if other players respect that either he siding with management, is what he's doing. That's what you don't see very often from the quarterback position because he's needs all of those people around him to block for him. I tell you one thing if I were the Duke, you know what I would do the do. What would you do? I will call. Seek everything everyday practice. You know I got a headache. You know, all of my knee, my knee, I can try this on my Neo unite. I something last night, that hit me runway got wrong. You know, I m. Them to get rid of me. We gotta get rid of this guy. This guy's walking hospital. That's what I would do. Up next all highly questionable Peres is guy who is position player who brought into pitch. Oh, charade getting on the top floor in the hiring district goes himself. Oh. Can we run? Oh, my songs TV show is brought to you by Gatorade, thirst. Quenchers. The proven sports fueled. Play the game that they celebrating world running thing by running away from his throw limbs, the Enquist Yonne, poppy, you give us topics events. And we question that's why someone was chasing him down the street with a butter knife. And he was in his underwear. Do you question if the brewers should keep letting none Peres, peach upping? The Marlins scored eleven runs in the fifth inning yesterday to beat the brewers. That's right. My, my father stunned. That can't be true. That simply cannot be true. I miss read the scoreboard, sixteen to nothing. The Marlins beat the brewers and Perez is a guy who is position player was brought into pitch. Oh, you gives them a widow and then throwing up there that seventy one mile an hour guys fastball. Seventy one gets. I think that was a fast. Good. You got to conceal that seventy one mile an hour tossed salad. I'll say this right now. We need more of this very blowout, the games out of hand. We'd get it. Let's have some fun. Eat come out with this. I like this. A little extra on that one. Seventy two miles an hour gets a great play from shortstop. And salute to you fans were still there because that is the wars a mean. How about you, you like this? No, I love I like the idea of this guy going to have fun. Look, you're to get blown out by sixteen runs. You might as well be entertaining, right? The brewers they had more fans when there were down sixteen nothing that the mail is ever had true. That's brewers in the ninth inning had more fans at the Marlins get at their very best. Do you question, this Fritz ler finish move all the most famous finishing move? We've ever had on our show. I believe is, is named Joey Ryan. Can we just show a series of clips here as I filibuster of Joey Ryan being maximum, Joey Ryan here because I don't know what this finishing helmets. Oh, this is join Ryan again. Or is this? Oh, this is just doing to do in real time. He's got the perfect care and perfect mustache, this great here. Wait till you see. It is being tortured. Let's go. Was hurt so much. You got a better finish than that. No way charade. Getting on the top. The hiring district here he goes. Himself. On. We run. Getting on the district. Themselves. Whole heads. Though, worry, he's fine. Have always stole. You wrestling is fake. In the script that was supposed to happen amid to do that. Do you question. If these will must you make grateful that she was rescue, this is terrifying. What we're about to show you. I talked to a public information officer for the fire department about how long this thing lasted here. This hiker is lost she's seventy four years old, and the helicopter picks her up and then this starts happening and you laugh, but the public information officer came in and said, there was never any fear that this woman would be long anywhere. She was wrapped up and that lasted for five to seven minutes right there, five to seven minutes. And he's like, there was some all discovered the argument that they did their job. He's, there was some mild discomfort for five seven minutes win throw up must've felt that woman's face, and she regretted ever going Heike the typical force of the throw of this kind of wraps around her again. And again, this is, you know how long five or seven minutes is thinking about. Like an entire block or highly question able that was five seven minutes now, think about spinning fast while dangling a helicopter while you're hurt ankle or you have an injury of some sort while seventy four years old to that will say good, spitting video. These not my favorite while that wasn't stiff at all. All there is there a better, spilling video I mean this get away with airing this. It doesn't seem like it should be on Disney television should something on the dark web. No. Question on these broadcasts onto clevelander hotel beautiful. South beach Miami. Again, still uses mice pace. See on a Bill with no you don't. No. You don't tell us what's on television. Tonight. Do you sure? I'll tell you where intrigue still exist. Tonight on M I, L dot TV the Hartford yard goods versus Trenton thunder. That smile on my father's face. The yard goats not just go. But go find in the yard. They had a no hitter here. Three pitchers combining under no hitter in the nights inning. And what happened against Matt Lipka in the one seventy six. Matt lift no, Matt lift. Oh man lift you are, so lame betting 176 doing that with one out in the ninth inning, your Baresi Matt lip oh for the love of God. I mean they're brawling they're mad. They're mad because the one seventy six hitter ruin the no hitter with a bug up the first base line with you're gonna why don't they wanna fight over it? It's that kind of weak mean, meaner you intrigue, not intriguing. You know, who the most famous Hartford yard goes fan in the world is my golden junior story. Why would anyone know that? Why would you know that your you intrigue all CC of intrigue when they said, you know, you know, who's to blame for what happened there? Who first base, you gotta go run around. Oh. Outta here. Go he says that of the code out of there. In progress on Fox Sports, Zona dodgers and Diamondbacks. But you like the closer for the dodgers. He Heathrow's really hard. He's got a lead here up three one against the Diamondbacks in the ninth inning. Two outs. This fan trying to distract them. There is air. It is. And did he distractive? Yes. Did you guys notice that, that's the spinning moon there? It is look at him. And it goes the other way, too, it goes counter clockwise, as well. Are you intrigued I mean, not a good day for my Arezzo? Anna home Ruth, right? Like first lady get spun around and the guy shows us helicopter. Then it's a moon buck. You're you intrigued CC very treat policing that was kind of weak. He didn't go fool moon. He win. Here with this crescent moon stuff. The real pros go full moon. Thank you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. In sunny, southern California Rams minicamp. I wanna watch Aaron. Donald do freakish things you've seen this guy. Nobody can block him. He's got muscles on top of muscles. No one would wanna face this human being how athletic is do you have something superhuman show us? Yeah, that's just absurd. What are you supposed to do with that? Yeah. That's lock. That yet you can't lock it. That's not what you're gonna do with a a mean. Are you intrigue entry? You know what this is the same guy who trains, but having to try to stab them with a knife. Yeah, I wouldn't wanna stab Donald with an knife. I don't think most people in this country would win a fight against Aaron Donald with the night if they had a knife and didn't have a night up here. You intrigue both CC of intrigue. Police have seen it big man. Big man. It's super big man. The move. That's how quick. Big man. Big man. The biggest man. It was pretty. Streaming online at TLC you k extreme cheapskates. Look, you speaking, my father's learning can learn some things over here. Show me what extreme cheap cheapskates are doing in the Roberts family, saving money means more than careful budget tracking it's reducing costs in every way possible. Oh, no. No, no, no. He's not gonna put this back. No, no. Come on. You can use it later. Oh, god. No situa- still only use mouthwash, once when it's NS epic. Anyways, there's thirty uses in that big mouthwash in about thirty cents a use. But if I reuse, it the second time that gets it down to fifteen cents a use because all have sixty uses I just keep two bottles one the brand new stuff in one with the wants us stuff. This one though is Christine is mouth was because she doesn't like to do what I do. But I think it's great. You guys are all stunned Zion that there's a Christina sharing a life with that, right? I mean, are you intrigue strangely enough? I am intrigued, you know what's funny. I thought he was cutting it with water said, yeah, I'd do that. Sometimes pop here. He's done an extreme cheap compared to that guy on his feeling. Always cheap incredibly diluted cheap popular you intrigue. I'll see see in cheap releasing mouthwash Shah was impressive. But what does he do with the toilet paper? Oh. Yes. That's only today. Thank you for watching. 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"The day computer monitors were big and heavy and expensive. And if you left them on all night with your word processing screen open you would burn in the Foss fers and pretty soon. You're monitor would be useless then. In nineteen one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Berkeley software introduced after dark. which turned your screen? GotTa Mac into a series of of flying toasters winged flying toasters. That would dance up and down back and forth across your black screen. Hey it's safe and this is a kimber. Don't we'll be back back in a second. After this message from our sponsor some people are better at changing the culture than others. There's hey itself and I'm here to talk to you about what it means to bring intent to bring care and effort to changing things to do work that matters for people who care I call that marketing and I'd like to invite you to check out the marketing seminar. Were back for our ninth session. More than eight thousand graduates so so far. That's because it works. CHECK OUT THE MARKETING SEMINAR DOT COM. Hope to see you there. Come make a Ruckus. Flying Toasters is a piece of software flying. Toasters screensavers is a choice. You can either buy or not buy it. It was a hack to the operating system. It allowed a software company to go into your computer and make it better. If that's what you wanted. We have countless pieces pieces of software on our operating systems. And if you buy a piece of software that runs in windows it's probably not gonNA easily run on your Mac and vice versa. The operating system is a series of rules approaches ways that software can work. And if you're going to create an operating operating system you have a lot of responsibility if you are living inside an operating system working with one it pays to be able to see it. Cities are one of the oldest operating systems in the history of humanity. A city city is a series of rules. You can put a house in a city. You could open a store in the city. You might have a park in the city. But all of these things or the absence of them are defined by the operating system of the city itself consider the enmity and fighting between Leanne. Jane Jacobs and Robert Moses Robert Moses redefined the operating system of New York he built more roads and more buildings than anyone in history. You can see some of what Robert Moses built from Outer Space Robert Moses believed in the two things that don't seem related one. He believed in parks and two. He believed in the primacy of the automobile. He would do almost anything to gain the power that he needed to make. Both of them happen. Jane Jacobs fighting against his top down. bulldozes style believed in an organic bottoms up community based less car. centric approach to how the operating system system of a city ought to be designed in a speech that I heard from the long now foundation Stewart brand the founding the editor of the whole Earth. Catalog pointed out that if we look at a map of Boston from seventeen fifty from eighteen fifty from nineteen eighteen fifty. The buildings all change almost every single building has been replaced over the last centuries but the roads the roads remain because the roads define the operating system of the city. So back to this idea of cars. Part of the operating system of every single city and town in the United States with a few options is the idea that when you get to a light you can turn right unread. Turns out the turning right on red saves a lot of time and fuel and it became federal law in the Nineteen Seventies. But right on red isn't a law of of Nature in Europe. There isn't that much right on red. It's an operating system difference so back to this idea of the flying. Toasters screensavers savors became a sensation millions and millions of them were sold. Interestingly enough one of the ways that the software company that made need to flying toasters did so well is they turned their screen saver into an operating system they went to others cooling Lucas Film. The Star Wars people and said here's our platform. If you WANNA make a screen saver that plugs into it please feel free that way by defining the standard Berkeley was able to ensure dominance fast forward a little bit to your smartphone. Your here's smartphone has an operating system in it. Maybe it's made by Google who loses tons of money paying millions in royalties to Microsoft giving away their operating rating system. Or maybe it's an iphone. Now Google gives it away a great expense because they understood how important it was. That search in your pocket maintained the primacy for Google in the way to ensure that they would get that search is by owning the operating system apple on the other hand which went archly I in the smartphone business makes a significant profit by defining the rules. There are three ways and and operating system can be defined it can be closed and that's apple. Apple can decide if an APP is going to be in the store or not apple can easily changed the rules about which programs are going to be where it can be completely open like Lennox and operating system where you can see every line of code. Owed yourself where you can make your own version of it or it can be somewhere in between slightly uncomfortable but often quite effective the the way Microsoft is so back to the flying toasters soon after that screensaver thing got popular. It occurred to me as a book packager yet. We could take the idea of a page a calendar and turn it into a screen a day calendar so that every day when you got into work and you look at your computer computer instead of seeing flying toasters you would see the quote of the day or today's far side cartoon or whatever it was but hacking the operating system got more and more difficult because the people who made the operating systems Microsoft and apple were easily giving away the route control. You might have needed to be able to do something like this and to this day on smartphones. Taking over the lock screen is something. I haven't seen any piece of software. Do though it seems to me. That would be a really juicy place to put quotes or insights or provocations. So back to to this idea of operating systems. When we had the operating system of a city we began to make choices right on? Red is a choice choice. Not a natural law that in the early days cities were defined by their need for water. Because if you don't have fresh water coming I'm in humans can survive my office. Twenty miles away from New York City has a park about two hundred feet up the hill. The park is more than ten miles long. And it's only thirty feet wide. What kind of park is this? Well it turns out that underneath this long long strip of land is a pipe to pipe big enough to walk through. But you can't walk through it because it's filled with water and it takes the water all the way from the catskills into New York City. That part of the operating system of having that many people together interacting with each other is not just law and order but is is also public works and then you've got the idea of mass transit. It's a choice to destroy your tramlines and your bus lines as General Motors helped cities do and to instead make it so that the operating system of your city is all about cars as we started to build suburbs because cities were getting bigger another question. How are people going to go back and forth while if we look at a city like Detroit troy the answer is they're not as oh Detroit became a donut hollowed out in the center? Where anyone who could afford to leave left and the city withered away on the other hand? A city like New York benefited from a significant commuter rail in all three directions out of New York City as much as Robert Moses tried to undermine it it turned out that it worked that real estate developers would lobby the commuter Peter Rail companies to build a stop. 'cause once you built a stop in Irvington or Riverdale or dobbs ferry you knew that the houses near the stop would go up in value because you could build a hamlet or village or even a small town it turns out that transportation to find how people are moving moving around so back to computer operating systems. Part of my thesis about operating systems is. We don't really have a choice. That's it's the difference between software and the Os if you don't like a piece of software by another one as long as it doesn't have blocking you have choices but once you've committed to an operating system and then apple changes it breaking it for millions and millions of people we scream and yell but worse is when they put dark patterns in when they started to shift the operating system of smartphones to push you to spend more and more time using the vibrating vibrating. The buzzing the hassling you. Because you haven't looked at all of your alerts. All of these are decisions their decisions as profound as as how to get the water into the city decisions as profound as whether or not. We're GONNA vote for cars or trains two more the things about flying toasters and systems the first one is that there was a lawsuit in which the flying toaster people sued another company because they had made a a parody of the flying. Toasters a game that about shooting flying toasters out of the sky and in fact they won and so competitor ended up changing the wings on the flying. Toasters to propellers instead the second one came a little bit later when led Zeppelin sued them saying that the flying toasters that were saving. All of those screens looked suspiciously like the flying. Toasters that were on the cover hover of one of led Zeppelin albums. Led Zeppelin lost. That one led Zeppelin goes to court a lot. Just an aside led. Zeppelin lost that one because they had failed called to register the trademark on that cover until after the lawsuit was filed. What's interesting here? Is that the operating rating system of a screen saver platform was interacting with the operating system of the rule of law. The magic of the rule of law. Aw as an operating system is that it doesn't matter who's in charge it doesn't matter who is dominant in the moment the rules are the rules rules and so the operating system of the law exists so that we can boot ourselves out of whatever bug infested vested place we are stuck in Hankins. Start over again. The rule of law is an operating system. That's been around for almost a thousand years and you don't have to like the outcomes but the process itself the system it's something we can operate with. And then the next part the next part is can we hack the operating system. There's a guy who does tours of the Metropolitan Museum of art. He's not an official Dosen of the museum. But you can find him online. And he'll give you a tour his hacking the operating system of that building because that building thing is more permeable than the museum expected and this permeability is essential because what we know when we build an operating system system. Is that over. The long run permeability tends to win out links came from nowhere in now. How powers you swaths of the Internet and computing around the world? wordpress is an open source piece of software which means people can plug into. What wordpress does without asking anyone's permission? When apple was coming up Microsoft had had hegemony they got to decide who would carry the operating system? They got to decide how the operating system would work and what apple did was relying relying on the good taste of its leadership. They created a closed operating system. That was so beautiful. Wonderful Susan Care. An artist was one of the fourteen people on the original MAC team. Can you imagine out of the original team. One of them was an artist. List that good taste. Even though the system was closed was sufficient to spread an idea to get people to adopt the system but systems don't last forever because they are impacted by other systems. One after another pushing forward so here. We are in this moment of time right on the precipice between open resilient systems and closed ones ones. That are easily disrupted. Did the voting system in the United States is closed operating system. It is not supposed to be hackel. Which of course means that it will? It'll be hacked. It is fragile because it has no resilience the resilience that comes from being open and flexible what we need to do. As people whose times being taken whose trust is being abused who look for opportunities but can't always find them is take a hard look look at the invisible pricing systems all around us. Because it's not always tim. Cook that launches a new S at some fancy conference prince. It could very well be that the operating systems of our future our invisibly creeping up around us. And if we're not seeing them we're not defining them for pushing them to be better than they're not gonna be for us or by US they're going to be done to us until we have no choice but delivered them. Thanks for listening. We'll be back in a second with an answer to a question from last time but first here's a message from from our sponsor if you want to learn to ride a bicycle don't watch a video. Don't read a book. Hey it's F. and I'm here. Talk about the Akimbo workshops. These are interactive real time online workshops that work and were devoting twenty twenty two finding one that matches where you need to go if you're ready to level up I hope you'll check out. AKIMBO DOT COM to find out about our proven effective workshops as always I love hearing from you. If you've got a question I hope you'll contribute it. Visit Akimbo dot link. That's AKA I. I M B O Dot L. I. N. K.. And press the appropriate button. Here's one from Ali according to my software it's the one thousand th question that was submitted to Akimbo via Akimbo dot link. Hey says I'm Ali and we love you here in Egypt to. She can come sometimes. Well Oh thanks for the last episode. It's perfect Mike. Question is what is the effect of showing your work in marked are sometimes hiding. Your work will give more value than showing it or is it just just another camp. I mean we have. KFC for example and their biggest marketing advantages for years have been that they had the secret recipe. The only twenty five person knows about well you you know the story and I also believe in trouble. Green said that sometimes haydn will work process and showing the final result will give you more more value. I know pigs were mostly scientific but does that also apply to art as well I remember. He talked about something similar in the fantasy episodes. But I think I I need to know more. Thanks thanks for this. It gives me a chance to clarify what I was trying to get at by. Show your work. I'm talking about showing your work so that we can make it better when we are doing art when we are seeking the spiritual to get under someone's skin and when we are dealing with the magic that is so much of what is in marketing. Well no then. We shouldn't show our work that concealing how we came about to do the thing we did. It is in fact a magic trick and what magicians no is that the more someone wants you to tell them how they did the trick the less you should tell them because as soon as someone knows how you did the trick there are no longer interested no longer interested in the trick. No longer interested in you no longer interested in exploring how it felt to be mystified now. Aside About Kentucky Fried Chicken there aren't eleven herbs Herbs and spices and Kentucky Fried Chicken. That's part of the secret. Some people think there's only two but back to the matter at hand. Traditionally brand marketing has been about hiding your work. No numbers no measurement a lot of Mumbo jumbo about what's working and what's not because the people who do brand marketing who run unmeasured. TV Ads. They don't want to know because if they knew then they'd have to admit that something they did didn't didn't work and so they often resist examination. What the Internet has brought along is direct? Marketing measured actionable interaction. And in that world. Not only do you need to show your work to your peers but Google is busy showing your work to everyone because you can see how much other people are paying for the ads for the keywords. That you are buying you can see what it costs to buy a certain amount of attention on facebook. Those numbers have forced lots of marketers to become direct marketers. Because if you don't you're going to lose your shirt it's also interesting to note that if you take too short of you when it comes to sharing your numbers and showing your work doc. You're going to end up optimizing for the wrong thing. And that's how we've ended up with so much callous short term thoughtless kind of marketing. Because if all you're measuring is how many clicks did I get in the last five minutes. Well then you're going to do things that are hustles. Come on flashing ready. Let's go so instead of that long term build that allowed brand marketers to build what they've built for all of these years so the magic here is his figuring out which work to show and how to be really clear with the people that we trust about how we're doing and how we can do it better her. I hope that helps. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. I just don't think it's possible or probable in today's world to distinguish yourself as an educational institution or as a success seeker at the level of of information gathering or information distribution. I mean this is the information age and you can get a great book. Great Essay a great idea anywhere. You know none of us can do that better than the Internet right There is no great thought leader. Who can how think the Internet like we have data what all NBA gets right? Is it puts you in a context where you're part of a community that that says. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's good. You got access to ideas. You've got access to information that's awesome but when you're gonNA show up when you gonNA face that blank page when when you gonNA face the possibilities within you when you got to face those fears I'm not GonNa let you gotTa show up and that's the hardest part and and it sounds simple. It sounds very commonsensical. But it's the number one reason why we don't write that book it's the number one reason y we don't ask that question. It's not because we don't know where we don't have any information. We don't have an environment and we don't have a support network at work that makes it feel like showing up as possible for me not just possible for the success stories. 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Indeed. All right. Your I quote is a pronouncement from the president of the United States. Welcome to the race. Sleepy. Joe? That was the president in his own way, welcoming somebody who finally announced he was running for president. Who is it? Mr. Joe by Joe Biden. After just flirting with a presidential run. You know, coming up behind it rubbing shoulders. Joe Biden announced on Thursday. He's entering a race. With eight declared women candidates at a time when Democrats are obsessed with rampant sexism and the opening line of his announcement E mail was quote America is an idea based on a founding principle. All men are created equal now in so many ways vice president Biden just still has the touch. He made his announcement via video of which he said, you know, when I was a kid we used to call these talkies. And he presented himself sort of as an everyman candidate. It doesn't matter what race age gender or sexuality. You are Joe Biden wants to smell your hair. Did you see the non endorsement that Obama released? Do it was just like I hear my good friend. Joe Biden wants to be president. He was really noncommittal. It was like it was lake if your friend asked you to come over to like their candle party, right? Like, you have to go, but you really wanna leave with a maximum of two candles will the problem is. I mean, his connection to Obama is his primary selling point. He was of course, Obama's vice president for eight years and people still like Obama the Democratic Party. So people might vote for him. This is his theory people will vote for him for the same reason, you invite somebody you don't really like to your party because you hope you'll bring his hut. Friend is interesting. It turns out that of course, Joe Biden like a mayor Pete put a judge is a millennial and Biden's case it's because he is a thousand years old. If you take the age of his hair plugs and the age of his teeth. The average of his body parts is like thirty seven hundred. It's just so many. I'm thinking, maybe I don't know maybe the runoff should be like red Rover and Rover. Or maybe maybe something more akin to the hunger games, armed them. All right. You're next quote is from game show legend, Ken Jennings. I don't feel like ended up credit for making small sensible wages, which helped the show with its prize Budgets, Mr Jennings was responding to the historic winning run of James holes. Our the current champion of what game show. Jeopardy. Yes. Jeopardy. Everybody's calling James holes. Hauer a genius his crazy method. Go for the questions worth the most money. Right. So instead of choosing the first one that our topic like one hundred bucks to the one of the bottom. It's five hundred bucks. His genius strategy is basically the same one as Steph Curry's do the thing that gets more points. You know, I was on jeopardy once I played for a charity and my charity head to give money back to jeopardy. They had to throw out some orphans from the shelter because you had taken money from them trips were taken away from ailing children. I was on a game show Australia where I just I was tanking. So I just started slapping the other people's buzzer. Yeah. I could see on camera or not. And I would just hit the other person. Sofi. He keeps hitting my buzzer. Haiti? You're gonna lose just lose don't drag me into. Am I the only panelist who has not been on the game show? I have sometimes gotten home early and watched jeopardy, but then rewound it on the DVR. And then re watched it with my wife. So I seem like really smart. What's crazy is people are criticizing this guy because he's too good. He's taking all the fun out of jeopardy. He's just going to win. He's showing off. And the Dave is biggest win. He calculated out the right wager. So that his total when he won was attributed to his daughter's birthday. Bidder. Nerds watching him said, oh, great. He had sex wants to. Aren't yuki. Here is your last, quote, you'd be well of guys to manage your expectations and give it its three hour, plus Runtime your fluid intake that was NPR's own Glen Weldon giving some advice to people going to see what big movie this weekend. Going to see the avengers endgame even got the chapter title, right? Yes. The game. You might remember at the end of last year's vendors Infinity war half, the superheroes. Dried up and blew away the sequel, which takes place five years later is about the survivors coping with the fact that superhero dust is highly allergenic. Though. So this is the film that finally brings all the beloved comic characters together iron man, captain America, Spiderman the hulk Snoopy Garfield. Guy from the Mr. Yuk stickers and the cast of family circus. They'll be able to find the little one because you'll see a little broken line. He jumped over the swings. The person who defeats Santos is the ghost of grandpa awesome. Are you guys excited to see this only if it starts with snorting the other? He's doing mad line. Two lines of Spiderman mirrors. I really became powder. All right. I will tell you this this thing. This is actually true that there is an because the movie is so long as you heard some people are concerned about when you can take a bathroom break there's known emission. So there is an app that you can download in your phone, and you press the button when the movie starts in it will alert you at good times to go to the bathroom. Now, I have a new reason to hate other people in the movie theater, right? So people are messing around with their phones. While you're trying to watch a movie exam with we've already been discouraging this for years and courage now, they're encouraging it exactly exactly what pissed fan Asaf. I know this is what he had to kill us. You're looking at your phone in the movie theater. Half of you must owed. If you're in them in the movie, you're an actor in it. And then you're seeing comes up and says, hey, now's a good time. Heartening to see. How did you keep do on our quiz Lieke cut his way through our questions like vendor three? Oh, congratulations. Thank you. Daban? Right now, a panel turn to answer some questions about this week's news, Paula we've got a bargain for animal lovers. Like, you a rare bird called a cassowaries is being auctioned off in Florida, the ASI birds previous owner no longer can care for the bird. Why because killed that's exactly right. Castaway is a flightless, but apparently not murder less bird. It was described by the Florida medical examiner. And this is real is having quote, no sense of humor. Killed its owner two weeks ago. There were no witnesses. But neighbors reported hearing the bird saying safe flightless again, I freakin Daria. 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I am a event planner and a stay at home. Mom. I have an eleven year old and three and a half year old triplets. Wow. Reaction allot. Urine event planner professionally so that people expect that your kids birthday parties are just going to be absolutely fabulous like caterers and elephants and stuff like that. Sure. Hope not I'm the cheapest mom there is. Liz, it's great to have you with us. You're gonna play our game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. What's the topic Bill are crumbling infrastructure to the rescue isn't a terrible when you want to jump off a bridge 'cause you're depressed about our nation's infrastructure. But you can't find a bridge that safe enough this week, though, bad infrastructure, d- did good or panelists or go. Tell you about it pick the one who's telling you the truth and you'll win our prize the waiter of your choice on your voicemail. Are you ready to play Lacey at first let's hear from Luke Burbank. Mcmasters dam located on the Columbia River near you Mattila, Oregon has certainly seen better days a series of cracks and fissures that were years overdue for repair ruptured last month, creating one long horizontal gash in the dam through which a steady wave of water has been gushing day and night. It's been called a catastrophe by the army corps of engineers, a disaster by local farmers and totally epic by surfer magazine recently declared the wave the. Sickest surf spot in America. Because it turns out the gushing water forms a perfectly to Blake barrel of water that has become the destination for serious surfers from around the world people like twenty four year old Jason Bradford from Vallejo, California who tried to describe the wave to a confused Wall Street Journal reporter bra it's like you got the best barrels ever, dude, you just drop in and what how you smack lip and you get pitted. So pitted, you know. The reporter did not know. But eventually got to his real question. Asking Bradford if he felt nervous surfing in front of a dam that could burst at any moment and barium under one point three million acre feet of water Bradford responded by pulling a shirt and exposing Hacun Matata tattoo. Demeans no worries for the rest of your days. He added without irony. The town of Mattila is enjoying a surgeon tourism and actually sees as a long-term boon to the local economy since once the dam does burst. The three local funeral homes will be doing brisk business dealing with Chason and his buddies for the foreseeable future. Surfers taking advantage of leaking dam on the Columbia River, your next story from the bridge and tunnel crowd comes from Paula Poundstone paramedics in Omaha Nebraska, where rushing a man to the hospital fearing for his life. His heart was racing two hundred beats a minute, which could mean imminent, heart attack, or heart failure. Then fortunately for him the ambulance hit a pothole, which jolted the patient so hard his heart regained its normal rhythm, doctor Andrew gold swag of the Nebraska medicine health network said of the man's condition. Quote, one way to treat that is with an electrical shock classically. You'll see it on television, the paddles clear, and the big jolt turns out, you can do that with a pothole. When news of this gets out. Philadelphia's historic cobblestone paved streets will be jammed with cars filled with drivers and passengers with racing hearts, this heart. Healing pothole bounce maye frame any move towards an infrastructure Bill as an assault on healthcare interest on the other hand it could lead to ban loads of cardiologists secretly filling potholes in the dead of night. A pothole in Omaha saves a man's life. When his ambulance hits it and fixes his heart rate, your last Dory of decay being okay comes from Bob cat, go. Please the tiny town of cresco is enduring what might be legitimately called politely. Poop storm. Because of recent massive flooding, the century old sewer system has been overwhelmed and the drains are acting in reverse causing town wine crept testify. Homeowners if strolled into the bathrooms and discovered that their sinks baths toilets have become Balaj like dancing phones of waste. A petition has already gathered twelve hundred signatures almost half the population to change the town's motto to cresco, Iowa even worse than before. One resident who will not be signing. The petition though is Tanya IDO who says the situation is a miracle quote, like Jesus own septic tank backing up she walked into a bathroom this week to find her long lost engagement ring head appeared right there on the floor. I can only hope it came from the sink. She said. One of these three things happened isn't because of failing damn a small town in the Columbia River is now a tourist spot being overwhelmed with happy surfers, that's from Luke. From paula. A pothole saves a man's life. Is the ambulance hits it and fixes his heart rate or from Bob cat. A poop storm in Iowa. Miraculously returns a woman's wedding ring from the depths, which of these are the real story of an infrastructure failure being a success. I love Paula, and I'm gonna go with her story of the pothole you're going to policy of the pothole in Omaha. Three correct answer. We spoke to a reporter who covered the real story while route to the hospital, they hit a pothole and the jolt returned patient heart rate back to normal. There you go. The Omaha world herald. Graduations lacy. You got it. Right. Urine. Two point for Paul. Of course, you have one hour prize. The voice of your choice on your voicemail. Thank you so much for playing Gadgil nations. Thank you so much. Thank you, take care. Another game. We're talented people are confronted with a challenge that requires no talent at all. It's not my job Laird Hamilton is the most famous surfer who's never wanna surfing competition, and he's never won one because he's never entered one. Instead, he spends his time doing remarkable things like setting the record for the biggest wave ever surfed. He has a new book out called life writer. We are pleased to welcome him now Laird Hamilton, welcome to wait. Wait, don't tell. One of the check that too. Because if some when somebody said your name is, of course, Laird Hamilton the champion surfer. But it turns out am I right that you've never actually entered a surfing competition. Served in a couple when I was a kid when there was a t shirt for the prize. But as soon as the money came into it seemed like that change, the dynamics and I I opted to not participate. We understand that. It's not surprising. You've spent your life on the water because you were actually born in water. Well, that's why was born in using a Ba'athist fear which was actually like almost like a hairdressers vacuum that went over my mother's stomach and relieved the pressure on the on the abdomen. So I wasn't birth in a tub, but I did have a unique birthing process as put it that way. Do you think that ended up sort of steering the course of your life? I would like to say it didn't affect me. But other people disagree. I'm so basic question. What is your job Laird Hamilton? I would see he knew baiter I like innovation, and, you know, I mean, I made a career as an happily I've subsidized my surfing with a lot of different things. When you serve like for a living who pays you. Sponsors. How do they know to do that? I mean, your guy with a surfboard, and you go to the beach, and there's a wave and your surf it. And then somebody runs over and gives you a check. No, you're you write a giant wave. So we kick the pitcher they put it on the cover of National Geographic. And then and then a company says, you know, we'd love to give you some money in and try to get on national gear up again. I just wanna make make it clear to everybody else that actually happened. Right. Yes. What do you think in your estimate is sort of the craziest or riskiest or maybe even most foolish thing you've ever done because you wanted to? There's a long list. We don't have enough time. But you know, I've done some crazy Pavel's between islands I have. From course, it good to Italy one time, and and we were kind of lost at night palling around in the middle of the Mediterranean. You know, I've had some other I've been in Russia, and I felt through glacier when I was helicopter snowboarding in military helicopters. And I mean, I hold on to you too. You gotta ride on a Russian military helicopter to glacier in Russia. And then you went snowboarding down the glacier, but we I fell in fell through corners. At one point. We we've been writing most of the Dan I was hiking behind one of my partners, and I fell through this a coroner's that have been in the wrong, you know, a couple of feet over. I might not be you know, on this phone call. So I was at hard to get the Russian military to let you do that. Or they're like layered ham. Love your shorts. Anything about layer. It was more like, you know, money for. And there's a couple of goals in, you know, in in in in the bird, and you know, he's still got in. There was a pilot. He was whining. Paid with vodka. A very low bar. It's refreshing the here in American that has no problem meeting that the Russians helped him. Yeah. So one of those instances, you're you've fallen through glacier, and you're in a big hole in the ice. Or you are somewhere between Corsica on Italy on a urine a paddleboard or a surfboard on that. Standing there on a board in the middle of the ocean. It's dark, you don't know where you are. Everyone a point where you said, oh, man, I screwed this up now or do you just not ever like losing? Really? Really like, oh, man. More than once. Yeah. I think you kind of good at it. Actually, you're like oh again. I hope I make out of this one. You're somebody other people admire so much, and I'm just wondering if you ever found yourself in a moment going man, I wish I'd become a CPA like mom wanted. Never. Crazy. Snowboard glaciers, but the most terrifying thing is being a CPA. I understand that one of the things that you're doing is you have a really rigorous. I don't know. It's exercise program is not sufficient, right? It's kind of a training program. You offer to people. Experience. Call the next PT which kind of stands for exploring performance training, but it really is a lifestyle program, and it's it's really about recovery move and breathe accurate. This is but somebody told me, oh, yes, that's the Purdham where you have to go underwater and lift weights while holding your breath. There is there. His dad part. So that's part of the recap. There were covered. Recovery and not not just killing you like a normal way program might make you go into a gym and lift weights. But you because you're more generous to people makes them go into water. If you're use the wage to hold us down, and we do a lot of explosive jumping. Prevent us. The weights to hold you down in the bottom of the pool. How many clients have you lost? None that we know of. But I have. In the pool today. Well, Laird Hamilton, it is a pleasure to talk to you. We've invited you here today to play a game. We're calling championship channel surfing you, of course, big wave surfer. But from everything we know you're probably not very good at America's favorite kind of surfing channel surfing. We're gonna ask you three questions about terrible moments in television history. If you answer three questions correctly, you'll win a prize for one of our listeners the voice of their choice on their answering machine. Bill who is Laird Hamilton playing for Evan Hansen of Princeton, New Jersey, and they've got a big surf scene there. So I'm sure he's. All right here, we go. First question. There was once a failed cable channel called Genesis storytime. Didn't last very long. It was created just for kids. What programming did Genesis storytime offer? Was it a it reenacted other cable TV shows like the sopranos and homeland, but with puppets and clean language. Be. It was just a series of still images of pages from children's books. So that apparent could sit and read the TV to their kid or see it purported to teach kids, quote, real life skills such as asking people out on dates and cures for hangovers. Beat beat. You're right layered. You mailed that? Carried it on there'd be a page of kids picture book, you'd read the page and after a short period of time, it's which to the next page read that page didn't last long. All right next. Yeah. True. They have those you don't have to plug them in next question. There are some shows that have come and gone very very quickly as in which of these which of these shows appeared only to disappear almost instantly. A FOX's who's your daddy a game show in which an adult who've been given up for adoption guesses, which of the twenty five men on the set is their father. Being PBS is trigonometry teaching educational comedy show. Co seinfeld. Or C NBC's crossover experiment law and order and Frazier. I have to go be again, the trigonometry teaching educational comedy show, co Seinfeld. What's the deal with high? No, you're going to course. All true. If you guessed, right. You got one hundred thousand dollars at which point your dad, suddenly took it interest in you again. All right last question. If you if you sit there and channel surf long enough, you'll end up on the home shopping channel. That can make sometimes for unexpectedly memorable viewing which of these actually happened on the home shopping channel was a after a host wacked the blade of a samurai sword on the counter to strength the blade snapped. And stabbed him in the chest. Be man showed a photo of a moth taken by the camera. He was selling, but then for full minute- referred to the moth as a horse or see a woman selling jumper cables decided to show what happens when you switch the cables and the car battery setting the battery on fire. I just I I'm excited. I'm sam. You're right. But then again, all of them, really happen. General. I don't like they could've. But somehow I just kinda like this. Yeah. Me too. I have to him. Out of out of the three of them. That's the one that I would be most likely to do so. Yeah. Bill how to learn Hamilton doing? All right. Lizard Hamilton is a legend of surfing, and many many other things his new book life writer is out now Laird Hamilton. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm wait. Wait, don't tell me a pleasure to start. Just a minute Bill ties the knot and brings all his baggage in the listener Limerick challenge. Call one triple eight wait way to join us on the air. We'll be back in a minute with more weight. We don't tell me from NPR. We'd like to thank our sponsor who brings you. This message discovered who alert you if they find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky websites. Discover believes there are some things that you just need to know. It's just another way. Discover looks out for you, not just your account and best of all social security alerts are free for discover card members. All you have to sign up online. Learn more at discover dot com slash free alerts. Limitations apply. Hey there. It's Joshua Johnson. 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Lawyers in the UK are scrambling to figure out whether or not it's legal to deny someone housing based on their what smell. No. Wait, no, not their weight. The you're on the right track. Because in fact, somebody was denied housing I'm gonna say it again. But when more confidence their weight. Physical thing nut quite I'll give you a hint. It's like it. May it does make sense because Lieber is never pay their rent. Oh into the strategy. Right. That's the answer is it legal to deny someone housing because of their actual logical. Sign is the question that was happening. It happened. A woman responded to a potential roommate and rejected or saying quote, her main concern is that your Capra corn. But so she still wanted to live with this person. Well, apparently the woman had such a cap record move, really? Joe stubborn and argumentative. It'd be like a year nutball. Wait a minute before you get upset. It would be great. If that's what discrimination was no jugglers. Welcome here. People who clap after planes land need, not apply. That's a pretty solid one. Courts are going to side with you on that one. Bob cat hooters has long been known for the waitresses and tight shirts and hot pants, but they're now looking to extend their brand they've opened a new chain of restaurants Pacific designed for whom for Mormons. Needs. I I have no idea. It's like it's like you go there, and you say, that's right. Timmy, it's a sound and owl makes and nothing else. Hooters, but for. Trying to wear clean. But you can that's the point. I know I'm trying to clean. I'm you. Bring your kids. And so yes, you just said it's worth hooters for families. It's called hoots. So who is the restaurant is usually known as a great place for very sad. Dads to stress eat while sitting near boobs starting a new family restaurant chain called hoots and done a very good job. They've even removed the nipples from the two of the sign it's not necessary. I used to take my kids to hooters for mother's day. Mother's day. Behold hooters thing it's just like I wanna objectify women. But I don't wanna go to a strip club because those are dirty. Strip club with training wheels. Pretty much pretty much. So this is the basically get your kids used to the overall hooters invited. Then they when they're of age will feel very at a full, basically, they're trying. So hooters is staying true to its menu serving up wings and burgers with the emphasis on breasts will be shifted away from leering at them and towards nursing infants in fact, menu offers three kinds of milk, chocolate two percent and prepared table side. Coming up. It's lightning fill in the blank. But I the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air called really of a message at one triple eight, wait, wait that's one eight eight nine two four eight nine two four click the contact us Lincoln our website. Wait, wait, NPR dot org. 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It is the Paris of Ohio the couple chose to get married at the southwest baggage claim because they met their twelve years earlier and southwest termed. By this promised any day now that their bags will show. That's true. What is true is that southwest donated airline snacks for the reception, and is treat even let the bride and groom have a full can of soda. Sadly, however because they checked in late they weren't able to stand next to each other. All right. So here is your limit the collapsible screen. I'm remolding. Now, the shards of my phone. I'm beholding this phone isn't smart because it just breaks apart like a map, it just can't handle folding. Yes. Samsung. Delaying release of it's highly anticipated galaxy fold phone which has a foldable screen now. It's true. The screen has a tendency to break, but it only happens if you fold it. Breaks by the way, in the bad way, where your screen doesn't work and not in the good way. We get to smaller phones, you can share with a friend like a kit, Kat the phone was expected to retail for two thousand dollars. You may be thinking wait isn't that just really an expensive flip phone? No. Because flip phones work. They were the folks and the. Exploding phone. So I'm just wondering I is this the same engineer. Like, what do you got? I know the exploding phone that was that was on me, my bad folding phones that break, boom. Here is your last Limerick Iran from the gym for a quick snack. I skipped crunches, but doctors can fix that. I've neglected my ads, but there's no excess flab because surgeon is sculpting, my six pack. Yes. Very good. This. That's good. This week. The American society of plastic surgeons unveiled a new technique called abdominal etching where they scope your belly fat into a six pack. Finally, a simple painless way to get rock soft apps. Procedure requires multiple follow up visits and for the patient to where foam dressings on their stomach for weeks to keep the etchings in place till they set. So if you think type course, it pressing into your belly fat for weeks is better than going to the gym. You're right. It really. Have you seen the photo of what this looks like it's terrible very convincing setting. Yeah. Imagine a six pack, but all the muscles are just little packets of fat. Yeah. Wait till layered. Find out he could have done that. Bill. How did you do in our quiz is good three and? Thank you. Support for NPR and the following message comes from Panera bread here with your breakfast. Wakeup call at Pinera breakfast to go no longer means to settle try their new maple glazed bacon, scrambled egg and cheese. Breakfast rap and pair it with a new Maddock Askar vanilla cold group. 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Bill, can you give us the score leads the pack with three and Paula and Luke each to we flipped a coin. And Paula has elected to go second. That means Luke you are up first. Here we go clock will start running to begin your first question fill in the blank on Tuesday. The White House told officials not to comply with subpoenas from blank house. Democrats Monday Nancy Pelosi said there were no immediate plans to start blank proceedings and peach right this week Kim Jong Hoon held his first summit with Russian president blank Putin right on Sunday, the F B I arrested, the leader of a right wing militia who detained blanks in New Mexico would be immigrant right on Wednesday. The World Health Organization said that kids under two shouldn't spend any time with blanks antibac- Sers with screen. On Sunday on Sunday the Queen of blank celebrated her ninety third birthday England, right? This week the president of Liberia decided to work from home after being informed that his office was Blang full of loose snake? Exactly. Right. Lou. Snakes. AM snakes either after snakes were reported emerging from holes in the president's office building the president announced he'd be telecommuting vastly exceeding my own standards for deciding to work from home these snakes commented. Oh, he's at home. Good. We'll be right over Bill. How did Luke doing very very well six, right? Twelve points. Total of fourteen way out front. There you go. All right. Taller. You're up next on Tuesday, the IRS failed to hand over blanks. Tax documents before a congressional deadline Trump right after the release of the mullahs report. A house panel issued is a peanut for former White House counsel blank Mcgann right on again. According to a new U N report one million species face blank, thanks to human activity extinction. Right. This week a movie theater and Tennessee sparked controversy when it removed the movie hell boy from its marquee and replaced it with blank heaven girl. No boy, Mike on Sunday. It was revealed that nearly one hundred runners from China had falsified their times to get into the blank marathon, Boston, right? This week both Rite Aid. Walgreens, raise the minimum age to buy blanks to twenty one cigarette. Right. Airbnb listing for rental in Scotland is booked years in advance despite the fact that renters required to blank while. Staying there booked years in advance. They're required to hold their breath weather, stay there. No. They're required to work at a bookstore from nine to five. If your idea of the perfect vacation is working retail, eight hours a day in a room filled with cat, dander. Check out the open book Airbnb rental in Scotland includes two bedrooms a bathroom and fully operational bookstore. You need to manage while staying there. If you're interested but can't afford the trip to Scotland you can probably book a room at a motel six next to an Amazon distribution center. I would go work in a bookstore, you'd be paying to do it. You realize it doesn't matter. Plugged your literary spirit. I I work for NPR. How did politics on our quiz each five? Right. Ten more points twelve trailing. Luke, of course, by two. All right. And how many than does? Bob cat need to win six to win. Okay. Bob cat. This is the game fill in the blank following the bombings on Easter weekend. The defense minister of blank resigned on Thursday. She right on Tuesday. The first criminal charges were filed against a drug CEO for his part in the blink crisis. The opioid, right? This week reported cases of blank weeks the highest rate in twenty five years. Media measles measles. Yes. Monday, Herman Cain withdrew his name from consideration for a spot on the board of the blank, Hon. No. The Federal Reserve police in Australia say they shouldn't have any trouble identifying fief wore a grocery bag over his head to hide his identity in van blanked. And then took it off. Yes. But he he took the bag off. So we can have a place to carry his loot. He's like I need a bag. Oh, I got one right here. This week. China revealed plans to build a base on blank the moon. Yes. Tuesday, two brothers implicated in an attack alleged to be a hoax filed a defamation lawsuit against the lawyers for blank, Jesse jussie smollet, very good. Archaeologists were shocked this week when a piece of fossilized poop revealed that fifteen hundred years ago hundred gathered blanked pooped. Well, they knew that the discovery was that he ate an entire rattlesnake. Hold in. The fangs say that. Researchers say they've never seen anything like the recent find in a dig in Texas, which contains the remains of an entire rattlesnake, including FANG, the archaeologists say the fossil provides great insight into the man's life. But also poses a lot of questions. Like, how bad does your break up have to be before you eat your feelings with a live rattlesnake that man was Laird Hamilton's grandfather. True. It's also possible that bar bets were invented far earlier than previously thought. The bird jackass. Bill did Bob cat to enough to win hold this just in Bob can't gut six right? Twelve more points. He wins with fifteen. Thank my team. Just a minute. We'll ask our panelists to predict what will be the jeopardy question that finally sinks James hauls, our special thanks to stock and ledger for satisfying our need to feed. Wait, wait, don't tell me is a production of NPR WBZ Chicago in association with urgent Erika productions Doug permanent benevolent. Overlord? 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