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Carello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr. Pepper mission where every day is Saturday in everyone's a fan, even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper, the official Drake, a fans Ville grab some today. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy chef. You're going to be joined now by a man. I've known virtually my tire life. A man who fashioned one of the greatest moments in the annals of sports fifty years ago this week in Mexico City. When he broke the world long, jump record by twenty two inches jumping twenty nine feet two and a half inches two and a quarter inches shattering. The world Mark that was just over twenty seven feet. I'm speaking of course of one thousand nine sixty eight Olympic gold medalist. Bob Beamon Bob, thank you for joining us. Great to hear from you. And this is a special week for me. I know Bob, I can't believe. I mean fifty years. I was actually I was not quite yet alive, but I feel like I was alive because I grew up with stories of of what you chief in Mexico City. My father wrote a book about you a biography of you, which he titled the perfect jump. One of my favorite of my fathers thirty three titles and you guys had a very special relationship, and I feel like to some degree anyway, I was fortunate to inherit some of that partake us back to October eighteenth nineteen sixty eight. You had been the silver medallist year before at the Pan Am games in the long jump previously known as the broad jump in. You were certainly one of the favorites for the gold medal and you're competing against eager tear Ovanisian and Ralph Boston who'd won the golden sixty in the silver and sixty four. How confident to what degree did you think you could emerge with the championship in Mexico City? Whoa, Lee Pan Am games happened in nineteen sixty seven, and I think that that was probably. The greatest experience that I can have and being in the international arena, it was getting me ready for the big Olympic that that would be in nineteen sixty eight. So I I was learning one. It would take to stay on top or be in the mix of of getting that gold medal in the Olympic Games. Of course, I took second in the in the long jump and Winnipeg, but it was a great experience for me. I I it's kinda proved to help me down the road for sixty speaking with Bob Beamon who fifty years ago this week on October eighteenth nineteen sixty eight set the world long. Jump record shattered the world. Long. Jump record jumping twenty nine feet two and a half inches twenty two inches farther than any human had ever previously jumped. And in some ways, as many people have said since then, although there was there was some great competition. The eighties in the early nineties with Carl Lewis in Mike Powell who would eventually break your record in Tokyo at the world championships in nineteen Ninety-one. Jumping twenty nine feet four and a half inches. You still have the second longest jump of all time. I mean, did you do you ever try to put that into perspective? Bob, that here we are half a century later in only Mike Powell and only once in Tokyo. Is anybody ever. Farther? Well, I think this week I'm just really visualizing they. They're jump in terms of, you know, the fifty years that it has laugh at and in addition to that it, it's it's the Olympic record Meyer Olympic record, still stands. So I have, I've lost a world record, but I'm in. I was in Mexico City yesterday and they. They have the main Dame, the Olympic training center after me. So it just made me just feel so good that that the Olympic record still stands out two years when also that Mexico City or Mexico still has offered me my feets some fifty years ago, not Beeman still the Olympic record holder in the long jump at eight point, nine meters or twenty nine feet two and a half inches, and Bob bet sixty eight Olympic track and field team. We had a discussion about it on the show few weeks ago with the author of a new book about that remarkable moment in time in that remarkable team, you could certainly make a case that was the greatest team ever assembled in track would be hard to deny that the gold medal. Are you the gold medal for Lee Evans gold medal for Tommy Smith at two hundred meters gold medal for Jim Hines, one hundred meters, dick Fosbury in the high jump Bob Seger in in the pole, vault Al order in the discus. I mean we could go on and on the four by one hundred four by four hundred. I think did Randy mats and win the shock put too. Right. That's right pop. I mean, and then of course, you know what happened with Smith and Carlos in the black power salute after the two hundred meters. You yourself had a history going into these games of of standing up. To big, it's you were suspended when you were in college for refusing to to compete in a segregated event. Can you tell us about that? What happened was it was a movement to human rights. What were you know what the boycott would have dead. However, all the athletes blackout decided to go ahead on and compete in nineteen sixty eight Olympics. They. So I I wasn't going to my past the sixty eight games because you just really never knew if you get hurt or your interest with not goes towards making it a nineteen seventy two things. So I said, let me. Take advantage of of of what is going on now. So I decided I decided I'm gonna go no matter what. So what happened was that John and Tommy Smith. Made a protest with the black glove, and they got suspended. By every bud, the head of the International Olympic Committee it. So you know, that was pretty alarming and disturbing to have that happen to to one of our teeth. They to actually see these guys go through just nothing, but k, Bob wanna. You know, one of the interesting things about your story, of course, because this is the urine, which Brundage as the head of the International Olympic Committee. And previously the head of the US Olympic Committee enforced strict codes of amateurism meaning Olympic athletes couldn't monetize their successes in the games. They couldn't have get paid by sponsors. Even though of course, everybody behind the iron curtain was innocence of professional being paid to compete in their sports. You know that uneven playing field. So you had to go pro to make money after you broke the records, he, you didn't jump va. Very much in official competitions after the record. And you never again jumped twenty nine twenty eight or even twenty seven feet in competition. If you'd be able to dedicate yourself the way that athletes now can because they could be professionals and make a lot of money while they can continue to compete in events such as the Olympics and all the track and field events in Europe. How far do you think you could have stretched your record? I probably would've stretch my my competition. Here's I've probably be trying out for twenty twenty. Now. But, but I think if we really look at and and I know that you follow us, you know, through through the data that has. Has come up was that Adidas, Puma began its major fight of who what athlete was going to wear their shoes and how much they could get out of each of the athletes that would wear issue and went to go metal. It began the fight of how of marketing really started or athletes making money. So you were in the middle of all that you were wearing both their shoes? Absolutely. I war a war primer and the preliminaries and Adidas in the finals. So I wasn't. I couldn't. I couldn't make money, but they gave me. They gave me at least twenty twenty five fares shooting. As early for looking at it today. I think the young athletes today would be laughing, so hard. And what had happened with me, but it was truly the beginning of of what they saw that athletes could endorse shoes and products of each of those company. We're speaking with Bob beam in the nineteen sixty eight Olympic gold medalist in fifty years later, still the Olympic record holder in the long jump at twenty nine feet two and a half inches. That's eight point, nine meters on the metric scale. But before we let you go, it's just an honor to be speaking to you, particularly this week on the anniversary of one of the great feats ever in sports. When you think back about that moment in time in my father was always fascinated about about this moment. Always fascinated him in one of the things that interested him was your personal story, which is so rich and I, I. Would I would ask our listeners to go look into it more more than we have time for right now, but you you, you found this perfect moment and you were just a kid at the time. You were twenty two years old. This perfect moment. No one could have even imagined you jumping this far or anyone jumping this far, you kind of destroyed the event for a while. What is it like to achieve a certain kind of perfection at twenty two and and have that. At the center of your life for so long, very happy about it. You know, they've also included in the dictionary a turn. That they use called beaming with. So you know, every every moment with chick Yuli right now, I'm just really thankful that that people remember me fifty years ago. It's certainly been a a wonderful journey Bob Beamon. It's always a pleasure to speak to you, sir. Congratulations on all the celebrations of the anniversary of that spectacular feed in Mexico City. Fifty years ago this week still the Olympic record holder still to second longest long jump ever in competition official long jump ever in competition. Bob, Hope we get a chance to see you soon and speak to you again soon. Thank you for coming on the sporting life. It's my, it's my project. I'm Jeremy shop and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday. Morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.
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Why the future of the Olympic Games is at risk
Shane because there was a time when it had beautiful glow to it. And we all really kind of look forward to the time where the world seemed to stand still forbid, and we could all kind of feel the sense of humanity that kind of ood from the Olympic Games right now shaking bit of team. Another Canadian city has voted no to hosting the Olympic Games. I'm Nikki right Meyer. And this is why. A couple years ago. Toronto's mayor made it clear Canada's largest city would not be putting in a bid to host the twenty twenty four Olympic Games. Okay. We'll good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your patience. And thank you for being here this morning. I want to start by making one thing. Perfectly clear. Toronto can be an Olympic city and Toronto already is a world class city. And I believe that one day Toronto will the great venue for Olympic Games. But not in twenty four again. Let me be clear I am not saying no to the Olympics. I am saying not this time. They joined the growing list of international cities who won by one have turned down the chance to host the games. New York City and Philadelphia or out of the running to host the two thousand twenty four Olympic Games by choice. Meanwhile, the list of cities they want to host the two thousand twenty two wondering games is plummeting money appears to be more important than pry behind me is the site of the London summer Olympics in two thousand twelve wildly popular. But the winter games have always been a different story smaller less lucrative, but he'll marry expensive to stage. That's why there's a certain chill in the air. Recently among bidders rooms man has begun full steps to her city's bid to host the twenty two thousand four summer Olympic Games. Most former host cities have spent well over their initial cost projections and spent several years paying the Bill the Montreal games, for example, overran their initial customization and budget by staggering seven hundred ninety six percent Rome joins Boston and Hamburg in withdrawing its bid to host the twenty twenty four games. Unlike the case in Rome, though it. Was Hamburg citizens and not the city's authorities who pulled the plug. You can add Oslo burn Denver and now Calgary Alberta to that list as well. On November thirteenth Calgary held a plebiscite people were asked to vote whether or not they thought that Calgary should host the twenty twenty six winter games. We'll Calgarians vote. Yes. Or no to hosting the twenty twenty six Winter Olympics and Paralympic Games. If the answer is yes, we will continue on with our bid with the International Olympic Committee making the final decision. A no vote. It would be up to city council to kill the bid three hundred and four thousand seven hundred seventy four Calgarians casting their ballot. One hundred seventy one thousand seven hundred fifty on the no side one hundred thirty two thousand eight hundred thirty two voting. Yes. So the game is over for these Olympic Games on people spoken people in big numbers and the people who spoke in clearly. And this is very clear direction for where we go from here. To ask what kind of city. Do we wanna live? It's not a city that we want. I think this rejection of the what killed it was. It's the International Olympic Committee, and our feelings toward them was that our feelings toward our city council or to our provincial. I mean, a lot of nails in this coffin. But you know, when you look at the product which was the Olympics. I think the Olympic brand is tarnished and the is tarnished and all of that corruption all of those doping scandals these this analogy for it was like inviting the mafia in tier leaving. Of course, a couple of Canadian cities have already hosted the games, though, Vancouver had them in twenty ten Calgary hosted once before in nineteen eighty as and before that was Montreal in nineteen seventy six so why are so many cities now growing weary of hosting? What is long been considered the most premier sporting events in the world. To start. I wanted to talk to someone who could tell me exactly why Calgarians decided to pass on making Olympic bid. This is robbery enrich host of afternoons on seven seventy QR. Global News Radio. Rob how long have you been living in Calgary for well? It's been about fifteen years now. So you weren't there for the nineteen eighty eight Olympics. Well, I wasn't living here. But I was in junior high school at the time in Edmonson eighth grade. I guess that would have been and yeah, we took a field trip down. We got to stay over encounter. E we got to go check out some events. So I did get to partaken take in that is I guess the nineteen eighty eight Olympics. So you have some I'm sure fund memories then of of the nineteen eighty eight Olympics in all their glory. Eddie the eagle and everything else who indeed. So what's different? Now, the nineteen eighty eight Olympic seemed so beloved, you know, not just by Calgarians, but Alberton Canadians alike. So why this time did Calgary votes? No to another Olympics. I think a lot is different one big difference. Obviously is that previously. We hadn't host the Olympics. This time around we already had. So I think for people who voted no, it wasn't a rejection of that that legacy. It wasn't a rejection of what nineteen Eighty-eight left for the city was just kind of maybe more sense of. Well, we we've been there done that that what is the vision now going forward. It's one thing to say sure gave us that legacy. But is going to give us anything. We didn't already have. So I think that was a part of the conversation. The other side of it is look the Olympics has grown considerably since. Then I think the IOC has grown considerably since. Then maybe not in a good way. And. There's a really different public mood and perception around the IOC, and whether we want to do business, whether we want to get into bed with the IOC as of were, and I think in a lot of ways this was a repudiation of the IOC what it's become and what the Olympics have become and certainly the massive price tags that we've seen on some recent Olympics just the way that that's been handled that turned off a lot of people here. So people who voted against the Olympics in Calgary. Rightfully so it sounds like had some skepticism around the IOC around budgets around how facilities would be used in the future. But what about people who voted? Yes. What motivated them to vote in favor of bringing the Olympics back to Calgary? Right. And interestingly enough, I think people on both sides were coming from the same sort of angst unease that the Cowboys gone through a rough few years. But I think from the yes side, it was maybe a sense of this is something we can. Get excited about that. This will create maybe a sense of optimism something look forward to something for the city to rally around and the hope maybe that that optimism could translate into economic optimism and maybe economic opportunities. So I think for the yes side of people who got behind the yes side was maybe the promise of what the Olympics could deliver. I think everybody recognize look there's some risk involved. There's certainly a lot of cost involved the could the benefits outweigh the costs. And I think a lot of people on the yes side hoped that they could obviously knowing that. There are no guarantees and that there could be const overruns things can go sideways and allotted for ways. But I think the yes side was looking for reason to feel excited about where counry was going. So what's the vibe then today since ultimately in the plebiscite, the majority of people voted no that they don't want the Olympics to come back. So if the purpose of the yes side was to stir up optimism in the city of. Calgary. Is there a feeling today perhaps of of disappointment or, you know, a pessimistic vibe in the city. Well, there's certainly a sense of disappointment from from the side from those who were involved in in trying to design a hosting plan. Trying to sell this bid to count Gerry Calgary's been talking about this for the last couple of years anyway. So yeah, I mean, it's it's been a long path down this road to suddenly and dramatically come to an end as did there certainly is a lot of disappointments. When when you have a yes, no question like this, obviously people need to pick sides and it turned into a divisive debate. So I think it's going to take some time to to heal those divides. But again, I think everybody who cast ballots. Everybody was motivated to go out and vote did. So because they care about this sitting they want what's best for this city. Obviously, they're they're differing views on what that might be. So the challenge going forward is to try to get hostile all of this bitterness and disappointment to try to find. Projects and ideas that that people can rally around can unite around. I mean Calgary's got some short term challenges. And I think even the most optimistic Olympic boosters realized that you know, it was no panacea wasn't going to come in. And solve all problems overnight. We've got a stubbornly high unemployment rate in the city, we've got a uncomfortably high can see rates and when it comes to downtown office space. So there's some things that need to get addressed. And we're gonna have to confront anyway. Because obviously the Olympics we're not going to address those problems certainly not in the short term. So finding those ideas that maybe people can rally around and we can put the yes. And no debate and divisions behind us. Thanks so much for chatting with me. I really appreciate it. Perfect. Glad to help coming up later in this episode. Calgary a big deal. Will be noted today will probably feel this is quite a big law. You're listening to this is why a national radio show and podcast. Download and subscribe online now. So I I spoke with Calgary radio host rob Breckenridge to find out why that city rejected the idea of making an Olympic bid, the next step was to speak with someone invested in Canada's Olympic ambitions, someone who knows personally what it's like to work with the I ac- so I called up John furlong the day after the Calgary plebiscites. Speaking. Hey, John, it's Nikki calling. How you doing? John was president and CEO of the twenty ten Vancouver Olympic organizing committee. He's currently chair of own the podium. That's Canada's Olympic athlete development program out of curiosity right now. Are you still in Calgary? I flew home this morning. I left a crooked on I just got back to our go. What was it like in Calgary yesterday? Can you walk me through how plebiscite day went? It was a day of you know, hive and lows. I mean, I think the people that have been working on the bid for the last, you know, whatever long been on a months and months and months where I think full of optimism, I think there was a feeling Calgarians. We're going to write to do Kagan. But I think people felt that the bait was between two relatively small vocal groups and that everyone else had been watching and they were about to step in and settle everything and given Calgary's relationship with the Olympics their track record with the Olympics. They're still a sort of an Olympic superpower when it comes to developing the best athletes in our country. Everybody is taught that you know, there's a limit connection to almost every family in Calgary. But the problem was that, you know, it just seemed that at the back of all of you know, there was there was some feeling amongst the public which sort of came out in the vote. People were confused. They didn't. It had that there was a coherent vision behind the bid, and they just felt nervous about it. And they walked away from it. And you know, I think people shocked at the end and pretty disappointed. I was a bit surprised. I thought you know, Calgarians wouldn't fact bet on themselves. They before it back. I you know, I made a comment this morning had Calgary voted. Yes. They would have been in the pole position to win against Weeden Italy because they would have had a financial plan that's been approved by government. They have government support. And they have a plebiscite of people supporting the games. And so, you know, that's a loss thing I found out which I didn't know which is not really an answer to your question was interesting. The only city ever the win a plebiscite both of the Olympics. Go onto stage the games Hoover. It's interesting though that Calgary unlike Vancouver, obviously didn't have that same vision of the game. Teams Calgary now joins the growing list of cities internationally that are saying no we can't be bothered to host the Olympic Games for a variety of different reasons. You know, we can look at Calgary on a micro level. But if we check it out on a macro level is it just another example of cities who are skeptical of hosting the games of this growing. Skepticism surrounding the I O C of perhaps a larger trend that more and more cities will continue to say no to the Olympic Games, you know, as much as I'm a huge fan. You know, I have to say that losing Calgary's kind of a big deal. And you know, it's not like losing a brand new city. It's not like losing a city that doesn't have stuck in a row or too strong. And doesn't have a truck Calgary's. God, there's a real strident kind of culture in Calgary. They get stuff done there and moving them will be noticed. And I think the IOT probably feel this is quite a big loss. And unfortunately, so she kind of got in the way of everybody's thinking. I mean, there's no chance on earth any city in North America would get away with a Sochi type plan. I mean, it just never happened. But all the new bids are confronted with the Sochi situation. And it scares people, and it's gares politicians it divides governments to refresh people's memories. The two thousand fourteen Sochi winter games had projected ten billion dollar budget. They went over by an additional. Forty one billion dollars. And nearly every games in the last fifty years have gone away way over budget. Thank Hoover was a success, but to have one success or maybe two successes over the span of however, many decades is that enough has there just been too many losses stacked against the I O C where it seems as though the future of the Olympics is perhaps jeopardy. Well, you know, I think there's obviously it's got people's attention. I also think though that there's nothing like a crisis to force people into reshaping their thinking their attitude in a we all went into things along the way in our careers and our lives that we have to suddenly make a big judgment. I think they're trying to make it. The problem is that even with all of the effort that's going into reshaping the bid process and the games themselves. You know? Very few people can honestly describe what reforms are people close to kind of can. But and the reason they can't describe it as they're not getting they're not able to do it. Because the noise around the games are so loud when you hear country like Norway traditional winter powerhouses, and Sweden, and Germany and Italy, and Switzerland, you know, turning their nose up to to this. You know, then it's something has to happen. I will say that. I do think that they are trying. I do think they're trying to lower the cost. I do think they're opening the door to different ways to do this and actually to be on it. And I'll say this having seen it myself. I fought the plan for Calgary was actually pretty darn good. They had way more room and protection in that plan than we did. The problem was that as the council started a debated. They had this noise going on in the background about, you know, this uncomfortable feeling about cost, and what if and you know, so on and they were. Purpose and the council was divided. And when the when when politicians are divided it, you know, ten the message everybody will have your divided. How can you expect me not to be divided but Calgary had a modest plan? They had lots of protection, and they're one thing they didn't have in their project that you hear people talking about they didn't have a jewel like shine people today in Calgary you can bet that they're talking about. Why didn't we put a new arena this thing? A why didn't we you know, why wasn't there a centerpiece that kind of wood would unite people? And I think you'll see an here a lot of people talk about that in the coming weeks. And that may impact been one of the reasons why Calgarians weren't excited about it. And they were nervous. So yeah, you've had a very intimate experience with the Olympics in with the I see in a way that a lot of other people haven't. So from your experts perspective. What do you think the IOC can do specifically to change in? Order to make Olympic bids appealing once again. Well, one of the things that I think happens with within the oil see a little bit is, you know, you could spend a lot of time talking to yourself about, you know, who you are what you are white things have to be the way they are. I think the IFC has to kind of open up a little bit and be more collaborative with cities much earlier on, you know, maybe even target cities that really are better setup. Be able to do this and opened up a conversation today. The IFC is is out there defending itself. There's a lot of cities in the world. If had very good experiences with the Olympics London has had a great experience with the Olympics. We have and I think that you know, they have to sort of open death in a way start changing. I think they're trying. I mean, I do think that they did work hard to try to keep Calgary in this. And they did try to give Calgary way more tools much earlier than to Vancouver. But you know, it they may have to double down. On the speed in which they're doing this or be faced with, you know, a more significant than it looks like they have now that said, here's what could happen tomorrow. The I ac- today could look at this and say, well, we've lost Calgary at and they'll be disappointed because they one thing you get when you get a Canadian city is you get promises kept you get the livery on time. You get pretty good management of funds that cetera et cetera. But now they have to cities left, and they may do what they did last time an award two games right away to voltage Sweden and Italy as they did prepare us in Los Angeles and settle down for a period of eight or ten years. So that they can have time to reorganize how this might go in the future. Otherwise, you know, they'll just be putting off a repeat of this next time. I heard yesterday someone told me that the six or seven cities have indicated an interest in bidding for the next winter games. So today, of course, now, they know calories dropped out. So who knows how many of them are sitting there? And wondering if they are you know, going to stick around for a bid for the game. So I think you'll see may have to do some very creative thinking of where they want to go. Now, I've wondered this for a while why does the IOC even still bother with this whole process of shopping the games around will they ever just pick one permanent location, build the infrastructure. They need or to permanent locations one for the summer games. One for the winter games and year after year just post the Olympics in the same spot. Wouldn't it? Save a ton of money grief and headaches just to Russia. The here's the thing. I think I think the reason they do what the way they do with now is because I think they have a view because it would be easier for them to do what you just suggested much easier. And but I think they have a view that they all it to their constituents to move the games from regions Bill, they believe that the games. Leave a good legacy or they wouldn't be doing it. I think they're sort of feeling they should share it. But they may end up having to three thing and do this. And then sort of look at ways to sustain or five or six Olympic city. So that they can do what you just suggested, you know. I mean, we'll see what the need looks like. And what what happens and what they get forced into its. That's the way word when they put the games in Brazil. I think today they would not make that decision again. But when they put the games in Brazil, they put it there for you know, I think noble reasons, but it was still a mistake. You know, Brazil was normal ready to do that. And they got a big hangover and a lot of a lot of breath in Brazil over what over staging the games, and the huge amount of debt that they've had to deal with this has to be settled somehow or the conversation. We're having right now, we'll be it'll volume will go up it'll be multiplied and people just keep on keep on talking about this way. And it's a shame because there was a time when it had beautiful blow to it. And we all really kind of look forward to the time where the world seem to stem still forbid, and we all kind of feel the sense of humanity that kind of used from the Olympic Games right now, kind of shaking a bit of seems John. Thank you so much for such an insightful conversation into what the future of the Olympics could possibly be my pleasure. Thank you for asking me. So his going to take the twenty twenty six Olympic Games when the bidding process began there were eight cities on the list Calgary include it now, there's only two Stockholm Sweden and a joint Italian bed. The next summer games will be in Tokyo and Beijing for twenty twenty two Paris for the twenty twenty four summer Olympics and then Los Angeles for the twenty twenty eight summer Olympics. But we're the games go after that is yet to be seen. What's also yet to be determined is what demand will be from cities actually interested in hosting future Olympic Games. This is why is produced by John O'Dowd and me the key right Meyer. It's national radio show and podcast. You can download and subscribe on apple podcast Google podcast for where ever you download your favorite podcasts. And when you're doing that give us a rating and review we'd love it. If you tell your friends about the show as well, contact us on Twitter at this is why or send us an Email. 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Amazon's HQ2 Split: Too Many Jobs, Not Enough Talent
This is tech news briefing. Im Tanya boosters reporting from the newsroom in New York and Amazon's decision to split its new headquarters. Exposes a secret known to many companies finding top tech talent, not easy. The Wall Street Journal broke the story Monday, Amazon has scuttled it's original plan to pick a single occasion opting for two hubs and the move stems in part for its need for talent more on that after these tech headlines. Keeping up with intense scrutiny amid an intense election week Facebook dismantled no less than one hundred fifteen Facebook and Instagram accounts, as it continues to combat misinformation campaigns US law enforcement officials tipped Facebook off to the activity, which government officials believe may be linked to foreign actors. Facebook said it would provide more updates at learned more from its investigation, including whether any of the activity was linked to the internal research agency, a Russian troll farm alleged to be behind much of the Kremlin backed disinflation efforts that targeted the twenty sixteen election. As the US labor market titans. Foxconn considers bringing Chinese workers to Wisconsin, the company Taiwanese supplier to apple has been trying to tap Chinese engineers to supplement staffing for the Wisconsin plant Foxconn said, it's Wisconsin, I commitment remains unchanged. In a written statement to the Wall Street Journal responding to questions about its hiring plans. The state has pitched FOX cons investment as a way to create tech infrastructure similar to Silicon Valley. In fact, a dubbed south western Wisconsin area, the wiscon- valley in hopes of creating a midwestern hub for talent. Video games are under a harsh spotlight by government regulators in China these days, but one piece of the market is growing despite the glare and that spectator. Video game competitions these contests known as east sports typically feature two teams of players facing off in battle games before live crowd that number in the thousands, and apparently the huge Chinese fan base. For east sports is putting revenue sponsorships ads and meteorites on track. To reach an expected. One hundred sixty nine million dollars this year in China, Alibaba's, e sports arm alley sports has already lobbied. The International Olympic Committee to include e sports as a competitive sport. This is after convincing the Olympic Council of Asia to admit e sports as a demonstration sport in the twenty eighteen Asian Games and medal event in twenty twenty two coming up on the heels of Amazon surprising decision to split its new headquarters. Look at how tech talent is hard to find. The Wall Street Journal podcast brought to you by trunk club. Drunk clubs personal stylist can help you build a wardrobe of custom and ready to wear clothing for everything from Monday morning meetings to Friday happy hour. Get started at trunk club dot com slash Wall Street. So could it be that there are too many jobs and not enough tech talent? And that is why Amazon is set to split its h q two headquarters. There's a case to be made that the prospect of hiring fifty thousand qualified people in one market just may have spooked Amazon. And as the Wall Street Journal's Lauren Weber rights exposes something many companies have known all along that good tag. Help is apparently hard to find joining us here in the podcast studio is Wall Street Journal reporter, Lauren Weber welcome. Thank you as the journal reported the driving force behind the big decision to build to HQ two offices was so that it can recruit more of the best tech talent. And that's crucial to this whole story. This whole big Amazon H Q two story is the talent. And how it's so hard to come by these days. Why is that the case while today competition really comes down to who your people are? It's no longer about brute force, physical labor. It's really about knowledge worker. In today's economy. And so that's why companies like Amazon, but it's not just technology companies anymore automakers healthcare companies, it's ensures financial services. They're all looking for the same small pool of employee's and on an educational level. For instance, what's being done there. Or what's not being done in terms of training? These young tech minds of the future where we landed. Well, politicians educators employers have been talking a longtime about how we need more employees who are tech savvy not necessarily computer science grads, but people who can understand the basic languages of technology, and you know, work in that lingua franca, and unfortunately, you can't just force people to study what you want them to study. And even though I believe the number of computer science graduates is going up. It's still not enough to satisfy all the demand out there for those workers. And so you're right about how whichever two places are chosen reporting gets into how that will actually indicate a lot. Well, they're choosing locations where they can find the people that they? Need whether that means extremely highly trained employees who may be have PHD's or other graduate degrees versus maybe a region where there might be more people at college level bachelor's level. Even high school grads, maybe who have the kinds of skills that they need. There might be an indication about what kind of workers they're going to be hiring in the places that they choose. But they're looking at things they're looking at more than talent. They also wanna make sure that there's a housing market that can support the level of hiring that they're doing where it won't be prohibitive for them to attract and retain good workers. So there are a lot of factors that are at play here and one big way. Global tech companies have always worked around this shortage of talent is to attract workers from outside the country. So does that come into play here and and house? Oh, well, I think companies like Amazon and others are realizing that tap may be shutting down depending on what happens with the Trump adminis-. Ratio. Let's around immigration right now, there's a cap on H one B visa, which is visas specifically for workers that companies need to bring in from outside the country because they can't find those workers here in the US right now that's eighty five thousand people and it's been that way for a while. The Trump administration hasn't reduced that. But there's been talk about it. And there's there they are apparently pushing back on number of those applications to and asking employers, can you really not find somebody here in the US who has those skills. So I'm players are looking more and more at home grown talent. Whereas before they could rely to a certain extent a knowing that they could recruit from overseas really important issue that highlights, you know, what's at the core of this big story. So Lauren, thanks so much for expanding on that for us. Thanks for having me again, Amazon's shortlist includes Virginia's crystal city, a suburb of Washington D C Dallas, Texas and New York City. That's it for the tech news briefing reporting from the newsroom in New York. I'm Tanya boosters. Thanks for listening.
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