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The Gift Of Battle

Lured Up - A Pokémon GO Podcast

1:02:49 hr | 9 months ago

The Gift Of Battle

"Trainers welcomed to episode one hundred and forty lured up the podcast retake pokemon. Go Way more seriously than we do. Ourselves lured up as part of the Mont. professor. Network and today is Wednesday July Fifteenth, Two Thousand Twenty I'm your host Ken pescador joined by my co host Adam Tuttle hello. In a hello, what's hey? How are you? I'm doing what's going on great? Yeah, that's fantastic. That's good. It's tubular to Bueller. Is it totally to? Literal associated with. I've got my son shades on and go to the Beach Yeoman. Were almost that go fast and shit is happening in the game at a very quick pace so quick very, it's great. There's a lot going on if you were the flash and I, don't think he'd be able to catch up. Just saying sonic speed. It's like you need to be sonic gotta go fast, but now there's there's a lot so what we're GonNa do today is as per usual. We're going to recap the events of the. The week and we had the go fast weekly challenged battle, which just concluded a little while ago. We have We had the team go rocket takeover. We had the release of Jesse. James we have a bunch of new shadow poker on zoo bat spotlight our. We had cure rate our lot of shit. This week and next week is going to be very busy as well. We've got the go fast weekly challenge for friendship. We've got the summer themed event coming back. We've got gasoline community. Day! It's there's a lot going on on the scheduler. It's a lot, and it makes the days go really really fast, and they've done an amazing job of just ramping ramping and ramping up for go fest. Which is you know? A week and a half away. It's very very exciting cannot wait. Remote rate invites her here like finally I mean. We knew it was coming. We just didn't know when it was coming. It was supposed to come June. If you remember that that was the whole thing like in the beginning of June, there was the announcement saying like Hey, this month. Remote rate invites will be here in A. Couple of days before the end of the month. They said actually there's something still screwed up. You know we're GONNA have to delay this and then kinda nowhere. They just dropped it on us here. They are started rolling out for level forty trainers today, and by the end of day today they got it down to about level thirty two, and they put the Kabosh on it and they said we're gonNA. Let game stabilize, and we'll get back to it, so we'll talk about all that and our experiences with it. I got a raid without Adam today very very excited, and I get to read with Ken Today. This was awesome man. I had an amazing time rating, so we'll get into. That will do a little arlo counter guide now that we have new shadow. Poke Amman and you know a lot more stuff going on with go rocket. Rocket. Our leaders have been refreshed, so we'll go over the next three weeks. We'll talk about a different leader ultimately backed Giovanni again. That's GONNA. Stop that stuff will rotate over time anyway, so, but we'll get into the leaders. Because we have all new pokemon lineup now and they're difficult. They can thinking. Kick your ass. I will make sure you're prepared for that. POLKA miners didn't ap k. of the now rolled out zero point one eight one point zero, and even though that this is live. There's still a lot of stuff that's kind of in the back end Gigi that has not been pushed to the game yet, so we'll talk about all that hidden stuff and. Got Some miscellaneous news. We've got a couple of emails. We'll get into that stuff towards the end of the show but Adam. Why don't you start first with recapping everything that we had going on during the week? We've got a lot here. Oh, you mean the the the battle challenge. The weekly challenge battle us this. This event has to been my favorite by far. The event started on Friday July tenth and wrapped up since we're recording this. If feature darkened poison type pokemon in the wild eggs and raids as well as team go rocket base research tasks. The battle challenge had. You, battling fifteen grunts, five leaders as well as Giovanni Jess Giovanni is back. Lou, yes, yeah, right I. So hype for it I was so excited has very nervous to take him on. But I beat them got it. Everything together. The team go rocket balloons were deployed, and they brought the grunts straight to you, yeah! This was our leaders Giovanni. And in one of the coolest crossovers we've ever seen. We Got Jesse James from the anime flying in south balloon. So so good and I'm like it's so good. It's so good because you get to grunts that defeated, so it's like. You to almost like have to yeah and Atkinson coughing can be shiny, so it's like. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you want that chance? They're Kinda pushovers, though they're Kinda, we really are. They've they, but if you think about it. Ash Even as a ten year old with no experience was able to like. MOP The floor with them from the beginning so and I think I. Think they wanted this that feeling that vibe of wow. They're actually not that tough. Whereas some of the grunts depending on what they bring, they can be challenging yet about the anime where it's like they they run up on Ashen ashes, not like Oh my God, we have to be nervous here. It's more. More like you again like all right so that that's kind of how I feel when I see them, it's like all right cool. We'll just we'll just get through this really quick but I. Just I just I just fucking love that they're here. I wish I just wish that the end meow, jump out, and that's right. That's right, and then you get to battle him. Oh Man. They need to meow event feet s I was really hoping for Vito in general, but the animation is really cool. You see the mouth balloon and they show well first of all. What do you think of the design of Jesse James because they're very localized, yes. Just beautiful like we. We watched the enemy. You know every week. And it's it's refreshing that they get a lot of love. There was no. Expense you know no punches pulled in getting them to look. Like Jesse James I love that they show like different screens in kind. Kinda goes through the motto. Suggest. And it's like I can't help, but read it in their voices exactly exactly. I love that about it, and they just look fricking great and my my favorite detail is in the meal. Th Balloon is. How in the daytime. It's just you know a bright me out balloon, but at nighttime it's got all the shading right. It looks like knowing from the maze and yeah, it's so nice. Yeah, yeah, they this was. This was very welcomed, and I'm not sure if this was something that has always been in the cards, or if this was something with balloons that was kind of in response to the play from home. Stuff that we've had I I don't know, but it's phenomenal. It's absolutely phenomenal. I think I think it's something that they can adjust when the time comes to you know. Get back out there. They can adjust it. You know once a day a comes. You know what just just that. You're not missing out completely, but it's not like there's like four or five a day. You know, yeah, right now. It's once every three hours. If you're in the same spot, it's once every three hours and if you're moving around, you encounter more. You could just be playing from home and you're. You're guaranteed to get balloons, so it's phenomenal. It brings you, yeah! That's the only way I was able to know I mean I did go out a little bit. But I was the only way it was basically able to complete it. I do I have to buy rocket radar. And then all of a sudden. The balloon showed up and they were able to get the last two. Radar and then I was just waiting that the next three hours to get the last one I was like Oh man. I'm so nervous. I'm just I'm just going to go out and get it before I have to deal with anything. I went out. All grunts. I didn't see any leaders. I. Don't understand that went home. The second I pulled in and like open. My Game Boom I got the leader completed. The task was good to go. Buy some also. Up we saw a bunch of new shadow POKEMON, including both Iran's male and female Machado blackguard shackles donkey and a ton of other ones awesome. Enjoy this to no end. Because we also got chop. Yeah, I don't know if that was the. Yeah. It's definitely new. I put it on the list, but the. Shadow Champ E. P. Man. Is it fill? Some holes like I. Have a shadow. Mich Up. That is a one hundred percent as a shadow. That's tight. Never puree that that scientist. That's cool collection collectible. That is really cool. That is really really cool. But like like I was alluding to earlier. We're GONNA put together a little team leader guide over the next few weeks. Just to. Because, they're their lineups have changed, and I wasn't ready for it. I will tell you what I wasn't ready for again as well as not being ready for this is. ARLO! He has a Paiko G. he came at me. He was like Yo Bro. I like my one when Pisa Hair. My face and I was like I got this. A battle them. I got a frigging Shiny Paiko. Ver- Shadow Cheyenne pokemon. Hanko! That's I was like my I was like shaking in the car I was like. Kept PG. But it's IV's are like really good to. Obviously by purified it or not, but it's like it's just so cool. Now that's that's that's awesome anything to. Oh hold on, hold on. Let me just keep talking myself for a second. I caught a an ECHINACEA. If I purify. It's one hundred percent, so I've got a one hundred percent. If I do that, I caught the. The. It's one hundred percent shiny shadow, not not shiny shadow. Just a regular shadow cut the shiny pint go, and then I of shiny low in the south. Yet you were on fire there. That was like rap position event. Oh I got a ninety eight point seven percent shadow, wheezing for VPN Great League. Bom. I am happy as can be happy camper. Yeah, that's That's also I. I ended up getting a non shadow, but I did get a shiny. Atkins in the wild, which was great and I go plus a son. Kern shiny like adding nowhere I feel which was which was really cool. Because I've already had it, you know what I mean, but it's always exciting when you go plus something and then look back in your inventory, and you're like Oh shit fucking Chinese. They're like. How did that happen? So that was that was really cool, but that is. Always an only ever happened realistically with like. Either like the one thing that I go plus and I don't even recognize it. I don't know I mean it's not a problem like a bad problem to have, but it happens had no I. I absolutely love this the battle elite, the elites battle challenge that whole thing was a lot of fun I loved having to like really go out and grind to complete all the stuff with the grunts I love doing the grunt, so I was really excited about this. And I didn't even play for the you know. I'll talk about it and the minute here, but the the battle event where things were kind of really you know. The frequency was coming up a lot more. But. I had my rocket radar. My super rocket radar and I went through fucking twelve grunts decoys before getting. Man You told me about that. I was like no way and. This is what was happening, so I'm I get out there? I'm getting grunt after grunt after run on like fuck. This I'm going out and just doing rocket stops I'm like I'm going to make this happen. I WANNA. Finish this research now. and Go out and I'm not seeing any balloons lake, nothing and everything else. That was like physical stops was grunts. So I'm in the discord, and of course I'm venting and I'm bitching and I'm like man I've been playing for fucking two hours and haven't had a balloon and then add Iraq in the discords like just restart. Your game is like that's what I did and fuck. Giovanni flew right down to the balloon. Share, Shit. He came down on a rope I. Start Looking for me I restarted the. Cologne just for you. The balloon comes on Mike. I swear if this fucking Giovanni I click on it. Bam Giovanni Mother Fucker and dude and it was a tough battle. It was a tough battle. You know and I don't want. We won't get into it now. The lineup. We'll talk about that coming time. But you know even the that he that he starts with was very OPEC like I was fucking me up, so it's they've done a good job of of rebalancing this a little bit and putting a little bit more challenge into it, but let's talk about the takeover so. The the takeover itself they they never officially called it a takeover. They just kind of alluded to it that in that one post where they said. We hope it doesn't take over too much of your time, and then in one of the later post. They said that team go. Rocket is taking over the stops from this time, but they never liked said. Hey, this is a team. Go rocket takeover like they did last time which I thought was a little weird. But this past Sunday from eleven eleven am to two PM. Everything was just higher frequency grunts on the ground balloons south balloons. You also got double stardust for defeating the grunts and balloons, and we have the opportunity to tm away frustration again, which was great, so it was very important for you to defeat. Giovanni prior to that battle event, so if you got your sweet coon, you can t m away frustration and we'll revisit this in a minute. When we go through the the listener emails towards the end of the show we will will will revisit that's. But I made sure I did my an tae and my sweet Kuhn. So now it's like all of the existing shadow legendary is that I have Tim tmz frustration away, which is good yesterday we also had zoo bat spotlight our with double evolution XP, and we had cure them rate our today. This month has been insane Kieran rate. Our was phenomenal because of the remote rate invites. We'll talk about that in a minute, but it's just been. It's been a very very busy two weeks and. Even though this is the the final week leading up to go fast. It's not gonNA. Slow down completely, but we have bigger events because we have our friendship event, but then we have ghastly community day. which remember six hour event? So, let's get you prepped on this last week. So the go fast weekly challenge friendship. It starts this Friday. The seventeenth eight am goes through Wednesday the twenty second ten PM local time we're once again going to have those three sets of times research that will ultimately lead to encounters with a low and right you and the debut of pedal, which is exciting, new pokemon is always good just like the previous challenges, if one million trainers from each team complete that time research during that window, the unlock additional spawns for the go fast weekend. Instinct will amok togue epic. Mystic will unlock your teeny and valor will unlock lit wick all on book one. We need that evolution. These these are all extra X.. Pete Note started extra extra starts. Extra. Start us. We want it. We're GONNA have. We're going to start pieces on all all all day. Every day for both days ago has so. Get it. Give it to us, but like newer players. They want to drag nights so I mean. This is exciting for them. Because they're going to be able to get the teeny and lit, wick is potentially a hold out. Put Him on for a Lotta people and their chandelier has some viability in raids and some viability MPP also against the leaders so lit wick is another one. That's really valuable. So completing all three sets of these will unlock the friendship challenge atom I. I think you called it last week, and we don't know what the elite challenge is going to be like but I bet you. It's going to have something to do with buddy. Hearts earn like a stupid amount of buddy hearts during that window, so I will probably have to Change Your Buddy all twenty times to like Oh. Man Make sure to get in. You'll probably have to get all all the hearts filled. For every single one of those twenty buddies I don't know man that will get you areas Roddy stupidly insane, but I mean it's it's even harder through why now Nissan and your berries ready due to do like five spin new Polka stop like that's a pain in the ass, Romy. It's like the only way I'm able to do that is if I add the stops myself like nothing in my fucking area is has a halo anymore, so it's like that that's really hard to do. But wayfair I know dude. I got a bunch of Shit push through this week and very excited new Jim right by right by my mom's house. Great Anyway. All right so like I said friendship stuff. We don't know what this really means because it's not associated with type but. In addition to the friendship thing, the summer themed event is coming back and I put the word summary. We're going to have summerish summary Type pokemon in the wild in eggs in raids i. don't know what the fuck that means maybe flour based off who knows, but we're also GONNA see the release of Shiny Bell Sprout, which is fantastic, so we have Shiny Bell Spratt and pedal bill coming out during this week a pedal will be in the wild and five k eggs summer style you coming back I mean. It is what it is. It's a it's a chance at getting the shiny, which is rare, so that's always fun and next Tuesday. The twenty-first we have odyssey spotlight our with double catch stardust. You know some people might not necessarily be interested in the Amish, but pretty much. Everybody's going to be interested in double stardust, and then Wednesday will have what will most likely be our final cure rate our, and when we talk about the data mine, we're going to give We have a hint of what Pokemon we might see next in five star AIDS, which is really cool. Oh and then finally ghastly community day is this Sunday which features quarter hatch, distance, three hour incense, gangrene and learn shadow punches, and it's a little anti climactic but there is an optional one dollars story research called the great ghastly, which is a fucking knockout out of a name so again I know dude so fucking good and is currently in the shot for. For dollar or whatever that translates, I'm sitting on a hundred percent haunting right now. So this is going to be okay for me. You've had that forever. Haven't you? Yep Nice 'cause I. I knew they were they were going to have an event at some point at some time. You're like his year hollow. Every Halloween. You're like it's GonNa. Be a ghastly community day! Yeah thanks. Thanks, thanks everyone for voting for gasoline. We could have waited until October. Okay, thank you very much. Though the elite fast, he bundle back in the shop. So that's your thing and you WanNa spend twelve eighty to get that fast. He and some other goodies go for it. It's in the shop, so. I've just been really enjoying these these weekly challenges I hope in some to some degree that this always continues because we've got our daily stuff. We've got our research Stanford the day. We've got her daily box now. We've got our daily Pokemon now. We've got stuff to do daily. We've got stuff to do weekly. I hope these time challenges continue I just think that this is an amazing way to keep. People engaged in the game very very very fricking cool. I. I've really really been enjoying it and I look forward to Ghastly Community Day it's you know communities great, so can't wait. Wait at what we got here eating yet. What are we? What are we waiting for? What are we ready for? Well? The announced that we've been waiting for which seems like forever was the release of remote rate invites. Earlier today. Literally I was watching your stream. T to t media. and. A dropped and. Issuing, the stream at I feel like the stream, just kind of like. We just started talking about. I message them afterwards. I was like yeah, we kinda stopped doing. We did a review party for G TO CELEBRATE GT one year anniversary. CONGRATS guys on the one year, but we ended up just. 'CAUSE I. I knew in the back of my head. It was coming. These guys didn't know so I'm like I'm like Oh. We have to talk about something in a minute. Had happened, and we were like we just stopped reviewing. Stop doing hidden like. I've I swear? My phone was so hot because it was just notifications were just like. It was on. New Does anybody see me, Reno advice me fake news so awesome. I'm so hyped on it man. I just remember Kinda like 'cause. Watching, you guys kind of like. Kind of just stopped reviewing in stop talking ish. You guys were just like. Gaining really. Yeah. Because, you were like I'll let me make oppose and. Like Adam or you're still the chat we raid. Let's go. Crate but yeah so starting with level forty trainers in ending today with trainers level thirty two and up, and I'm sure by the time you hear this that'll be down to level five or something but they did an amazing job at keeping things stable because I haven't seen any too many complaints. Some important stuff to remember is that through the end of the month remote raiders are doing the same amount of damage as in Person Raiders, an impersonator can invite up to five friends and a maximum of ten remote raiders can be rate at the same time which means. At the end of the month. Here your remote rates. Raiders are GONNA. Do half damage, so is it will be. They say a need, or is it just reduced? Reduced. Reduced but I don't I. Don't think they've ever come out and said half damage. I just know it's going to be reduced damage. I don't know how much I'm sure it will be a struggle. You won't be able to do. Oh, this would like your friends now. Twenty I would imagine twenty-five percent less I can't imagine it to and fifty percent less. Yeah. We had an experience today with the remote read passes Elia read abor radar. Yep and you were like. Are you ready and I'm just like Yep, and I know right before that Josh from the Special Conditions podcast. He was like Adam. You want to read. In his partner vowed they they all joined in. We were in where the Tari Alex. And we were able to take down the four of us. So! That was awesome. My ran on me. So! Not, AWESOME And Yeah I? I one ran on me the second one we did. During the? I caught that one, and then the third one ran on me and then all the others I pretty much caught. During our the during the rate our. But, as soon as it had, seven would just kinda like everybody was done, nobody wanted to how how did it go free because I like? Things. Were you know the game was stable? But there were some issues and I think the first two invites. I sent you. You couldn't get in right like the fries 'cause you get into at all. So I then restarted, and then I could get in, but it was just like I. Just didn't recognize that. I was like that it was available so I'll tell you my experiences and I. Think it's the same thing that happened to you so I was out driving, I. Don't know what I was doing, but I got a message from Owens. The Prince and he's in England. And he messages like Yo you WanNa. You WanNa do this like fuck. Yeah, so he sends me the invite. And when I click on the invite. It shows the gym for a second, and then it says walk closer to this gym I'm like the fucking. Jim is in England like interest. Rate Breaks so. It was a little fucked up. He's like alright. LemMe recent so when he sends it. It's the same Jim same raid, but in the request queue. His, old request was still there. The old invite was still there so I see too at the same rate stack top of each other. Try to go in says walk closer faulk. Does it the third time so now I have three invites stacked on top of each other all the same rate and I couldn't get in. I did a restart finally got in completed the rate. It was phenomenal so much fun when you defeat. Wherever the actual rate is you that Pokemon will have that location stamp, so I now have Kiram that's stamped from his hometown, which he thought was really cool, and so what? Then weather like if it's boosted or not again based on the local. and. So we had that that issue with walk closer to the gym. I've seen that a couple of times talking about that. But for me I spent my my read our inviting people to every single rate, I did I did for ended up doing fourteen and inviting people the entire time, so it was definitely a judge an adjustment because when you have a big ASS party like I. Did you know we had twenty something people on foot. What would end up happening is people would start filling lobby i. go in I'd manually searched for the five people I want to add, and I'm doing it I'm doing and I'm pick this person. Take pick this person then I hit submit, and it says you can't do it. The rate is full I'm like motherfucker. I was too slow, so then I go back out. Have to start a second lobby. That's fresh. I mean obviously cure them as pushover, so it's no big deal, but the fact that when the rooms fill up. It, just it kind of it took an adjustment so then what I learned to do. This is probably a good pro. Tip is even if you WANNA invite five people. Invite them one at a time. That way you can get those people in if there's only three spots lefty, get at least three, and you don't have to worry about selecting all five and then getting nobody in because it says the room is full. So. I think when people are invited to a room that ends up filling up. They they'll get an error on their side. That says like there's no more room in the group or you know room not found something like that. But yeah, because that happened to me, okay for a lot of them, too, and I got burned on one of 'em because it's like I thought there was gonna be like thought there was going to be more people in the raid. There's this ongoing bug. And I don't know if you use experienced this where when you're in a lobby, you'll see the number, but you won't see anyone's avatars. Their names nothing says blank. If, you've run across that like. I'd like. The avatars are like discolored or black shadow silhouette yet. This is I was seeing nothing. So it's like I'm inviting people and I'm like fuck. I don't know if they're in ear or not. I was like I didn't WanNa. Keep jumping between two men psych. If there was a fucking endgame Chatterbox Game Changer, so it's like I'm toddling between twitter and discord I'm trying to coordinate all the stuff and it's like I. Come to the realization like fuck now. The lobby seems short. where it's like before the lobby timers like drag great. It's like I'm trying to this. Invite and get the people in in time, and it's people were joining off my invites, and there was like fifteen sixteen seconds left on the clock Yep so. That happened almost every single time. It was clever joined. It was under sixty seconds well. Yeah, it was. It was very close, but. For the first day, and for the first rule out I was fucking astonished at how well it worked, it was it was great and I got to do I. Don't know three or four international rates which was phenomenal. I did a bunch of local rates that were just out of my area. Men I can only imagine how much fucking money Niantic made today with people, buying remote raid passes and the amount of people complaining saying. Please allow us to hold more remote rate passes. We WanNA buy more. Because what kills me? Is if you run into read passes and your interest or you try to accept it. You can't buy it from that screen. All the way back saying, go into the store like little quality life thing that they need to. Thing that I would chant just like the ability to by pass. 'cause like I had to back out I know I did. I bought three at the beginning. I think I purchased three more sets me me too I, that about the same as well so, but it is a little annoying when you have to back all the way out, and then go all the way back in. It's like it'd be nice if you just do it from that same screen where it says like you're at a raid passes. Let me by them right. They're like. Let me by the Bundle, not like take me to the shop or or by one single pass. Like just allow me to do it like that and. I understand they WANNA limit it. They don't want this to be the the main way. People raid, but you know people are fucking hungry for this and I mean it was amazing to see discord just. Popping off like it was just going nuts and everyone was going nuts and I like I was able to put a tweet up. Like Hey, guys are gonna be doing some raids. You know who wants to join in. It's like all these people messaging me and I'm able to pull them in. I rated at Jane Sil-, Bob Secret Stash. I was able to get a bunch of fans in, so they could have that Jim Badge just really really fucking cool so I was. Out I know. House Florida in in my circle I know like my my group. There's a little bit of negativity with. One of the quotes Al onto uses like. Let me know when they change it to Pokemon. Stay at home. ha see that's what that's what Niantic doesn't want. You know what I mean. It's like. You don't WanNa. Get people to use this, but think about people that don't have cars. Don't have gyms near them. Don't have big parties to go out. Rating with I mean this could be the only way to do it so for the people necessary. This is amazing, and then it's the community aspect with you. If you're in red bank all the time and you're like your Adam. I'm going out for two hours. Do you want me to hit you up if you know I find a cure to? Yeah Yeah yes I do I I sent you the picture of my nearby anders twelve eggs. It's like you know it's on. You know what I mean. It's like I most would have like. One or two? You. Know I mean obviously if it's the rate, our you know got like three spaced out here and there but. It never looks like that. Yeah. It's I mean it's like by. My phone is blown up right now. I should answer this call the AR. Fan Raiders is calling as a group chat right now. Should I answer it on the air? I guess go for see who it is. they hung up was probably a dial because I dialed earlier today, too, because it's like that Chad has been just fucking blowing up like JC picks ash. Bobby like all those guys are just going nuts fucking rating together, which is so amazing I! Put together a spreadsheet for them with everyone's friend codes like. The community is mobilising. It's it's pretty. It's pretty amazing. Pretty Awesome I'm I'm I'm? Like this is positive and it's like right now. Yes. People are we just don't know what the future holds. An and I've been battling with like myself like you know. I'm going to work. I'm going back to work. My son's going into daycare. I I don't know what his school's going to be like I. I'm like terrified because I. Just don't know that's like as a as a parent, I just don't know what the right call is I. Don't know what to do, and we don't know what the future is so. Them giving us this ability. To communicate with our friends, who we would normally be out there like hanging out with rating with. You can't be that close anymore, so. You know there's there's that. That that scale like you know, what do we do you know and? When we do have. At the end of the month like? It will adjust. There will be like A. Whoever's rating remotely isn't going to do enough damage, so you're going to need friends with you. Everyone in need people there right right so it will balance itself out. And just right now I understand it just the the hype overload Israel. And yes, we can sit at home, but that's also what. We should be doing right now right right? You know so when the time comes in the in the and the damage you know goes down. It's like, but I mean if I have. Six people in the lobby myself plus five people that I invite, and they're all level. Forty would stacked fucking counters. I, you know it's like every rate is possible. At any time. It's like there's never going to be a raid. And and this is a little selfish, and and you know very. Specific to our situation, but as creators. We have. Shit tons of people that we play with from around the world at any given time, so it's like. We pretty much never have to have a situation where we would miss out an array because there's no one to do it with, and now that you could. When the people are online like I'm getting random fucking raid requests all the time all day today like people are saying if I WANNA, go shiny hunting, and you just find every single timber or shanks, Yup, or clinks. Like you could go shiny hunting with somebody. You can say you go physically your in your area. Go physically in my area will will link up whenever we find something. Like, it's awesome. There's just so much potential in this so like right now. Yes, stay home raid. That's what it's for. In the future. You know what happens in the wintertime. Will you all six? Yeah Yeah Yeah and there's somebody that can see raid, but I'm not going to risk my life driving my car in like I you know the towns like don't go out driving. Your also have to remember, too. That raid passes remote raid passes are discounted right now, so those prices are going up, so you don't get to used to this being the norm because this is. The reason why they can't allow you to have more than three will. They gotTa Gate it somehow they have to control the economy. They have control a lot of different things with this. Because if you just gets you complacently like you said it's going to be. The pokemon stay at home. People don't WanNa. Fuck it leave, but I mean I'm driving home from rate our you know six to seven on the east coast, so the next time zone over Chicago, Time Zone I get an invite from Terry Wolf I jump into the race. It's him legendary Mu and go cast Chris INFLEC- and rate. Aw, that's awesome like. Shit. I'm fucking battling with my friends like it was. It was a may didn't get an invite Terry. Borderline pissed and then like you know we're here. We did our patrons. Zoom call right before recorded this and so two dots sends me a fucking invite, and it's well past when read stop in my area, so it's like the fact that. You can o'clock somewhere right now man. It's so cool like. fucking Kudos antic they they did it like this is this is a game changer and and I look forward to. To wear this goes and no people. regionals will never be raid bosses so. Get over that. That'll never happen but the fact that you know. If you have the money to fucking spend on the passes like I'll do a timber with you. You know it doesn't have to be a legendary, but I'll. I'll tell a timber like i. just think that from the community aspect this amazing as creators. We can really do like. You know a lot more cool stuff with streaming with the community because we can schedule people and say hey. I'm GONNA do right hour from six to seven. You need to be ready from six to six thirty I'll call. I'll call on you. We'll do these reach together like it's just. It's really cool to see I'm really loving it. All right next up. Let's do a little arlo counter. Guide here and we'll what we'll do is every week for the next three weeks will cover a different team leader are low counter guide. Can Get, Ou will start with him because he has imo hair, but as Adema mentioned earlier, we've got a ton a new shadow POKEMON including new shadow, Chinese from the leaders as well as Jesse James and like. I said Jesse James Our total wimps like just. As easy as grunts, if not nj Nice that they call you towards two, they do those small tasks yet, but ex coughing can be shiny and as for the leaders. There's a few combinations of pokemon. That might give you some trouble, so we're going to review the LINEUPS. Talk about the Best Pok Mon a counter them. And this info coming from pokemon go hub dot net. Okay are low will always open with Paiko. So that's a little bit odd. You don't really see that too much, and it's his home. Pok Mon could be chartered blast, toys or steel ix, and he will close with size or dragon or Salomons so quite diverse. and. Like how they did this from a balancing perspective because. You. There's really no safe party. Because one might do well against the first Pokemon, but then could be super fact you know could take super effective damage. The second them on like they really make you think about it, but we'll talk about each individual pokemon here and what we recommend bringing and. I pretty much agree with go hubs recommendations, except for one spot I'll call that out, but to counter pinecone. Just bring fire, Chandelier Dharma Tan Blazer. Can you know any anything with double fire moves and stab is going to be good. Now for the Middle Book on this is when things get a little weird, because depending on what he brings is what is going to dictate what you WANNA bring so. Obviously if you you start your fire pokemon. And he carries over to the second POKEMON and he brings a blast. Always. You're GONNA get wrecked. However if He brings you, so you say okay. I'll bring grasp pokemon for blast toys, but then if he brings a chart, he's GonNa fuck up your grasp Pokemon, so it's like you you. You might have to do a couple bits of trial in every year to figure out what the lineup actually is, but that Hump Pok Mon Char's are blast always. I fucking hate battling steelworks. Seal is a pain in my ass. I cannot stand it but I'd say just that combination alone is a pain in the ass. Of what trying to figure out which one did like. It's trial and error. Because you'll never know. It's like I mean you could bring for chartered in blast. Always you could bring like. Gina from our discord community, she was like bring a fucking electric pokemon like yeah, that's that's a good call brings APP does. Bring a bring a Reiko something like that, but. When comes around like what the fuck you GonNa do it's like you gotta you to think about this now you might be able to bring an electric poke them on, and then put the fire on that you defeated Paiko with off to the side, and bring them back in for steel, IX, or have a standalone fire procam on just to counter ix, so that you're gonNA to have to do trial and error, but I definitely appreciate that rock paper scissors of the lineup, and then for the Final Pok Mon you have Cesar. Dragon Solomon to dragons here size or the bug type. For sizemore, you could bring fire right so again. This could do well if you have your fire Pokemon that you defeated. pinecone with. If he had steel ix, and you had to fire, Pok Mon this my carryover well, if if he has siser, but now for Dragon I, just bring fucking Alga, and for Solomon's go hub says bring a smackdown crunch, Toronto tarn. Okay I could deal with that so. There's a lot of diversity in his lineup. So there really isn't a Goto like would Sierra are cliff? Prior you can say all right. I'm bringing macario Champs, and just fucking plow through it Gigi, but here it seems like you really have to put a little bit more thought and. You know lose a couple of times to figure out what's going on here so that way you can definitely guilty of losing a couple times. Yeah, yeah, I've I've lost many times, and when we get to talking about Giovanni Man I was getting fucking wrecked because he had guard shop. WHO's fucking killing me? unfortunately I'll skip that. So to summarize here, Paiko bring fire like Chandelier Dharma Tan Blazer kin for charge you, WanNa. Bring some rock because it's double week. go hub recommends Reggie Rock and Gholam, but I can't see you going wrong with like a smackdown stone-age Taran the tar, which most people will have so that's the one thing that. I was surprised that inputs around an Atari in there. blast. Always you, WanNa bring grass. They have arisen on top of UNISOURCE. Even work well for stealing the which again total pain in the acid by book. I would bring. He Tran or something with double fire moves. Size or bring some more fire like blazek inner Char's art. Dragon Night Bring Yoga or that smackdown crunch Taran Tar. For Solomon's, but let us know what you're going to bring I think that. This is going to be a little bit of an adjustment, I think the last iteration of the team leaders was pretty fucking easy specially Sierra so these seem to be a little bit tougher and require you to do a little bit more strategizing and team building which I definitely appreciate A. Lot more fun because you don't know like you're just trying to win. You're like I need this for this task. Lynch I. Want the. I think the switch with the task that we had where like we need to defeat five of them like that was just a push like A. That factor that you needed to. Get it done I'll. Push and it was like you knew you needed to get this done so I need to figure this out. Fast I'm thoroughly enjoying the rocket stuff now. There's the balloons just makes it that much more exciting now. They have new. Pok Mon like I'm you know because I'm running a living decks? I'm excited to battle everybody. I'm excited to keep them purify all that stuff it's it's been great. The these like sub mechanics of the main game have really been driving people to stay engaged. Myself included so loving it just absolutely absolutely fucking love and the Shit. All Right Adam, why don't you talk? About Zero Point one eight one point zero data mine from polk on that means just get my my hard hat on coaching. Kazaa, we're going in the minds. With the POLKA minors data mine of zero. Point one eight one point zero as Ken said. before we dive into the UK just a quick reminder that none of the following information is approved by Niantic and can be changed at any time, also data mining is in a direct violation of the terms of service. So, it's like no no naughty naughty. So, while zero point one eight one point zero as rolled out, there are still some hidden gems found in the code. I is of a phenomenal new loading screen, which really show coolest perspective of pokemon being our world. While we were at home, I love this loading screen dude so good. So I really loved that they introduced CAC Leon in it. I'm super stoked. Talked about last week. Do you kick? Leon confirmed six CAC. Leon confirmed and love it. Thank united. We also see some new. Forms in the code like Podesta. Rapid Ash Mister. MIND COURSE LA. Your mask slow poke slow. Bro, so that's exciting. the gophers badge has been added which along with some of the gophers assets like the challenge hub that will be used to track the progress for the go fast global stuff. victims move. Create is in the code as well as a special encounter screened for it Maybe it's going to be something like Selah being ember that where they had that whole musical pokemon singing and all that stuff. Maybe there's some cool. I really hope there's more musical pokemon and singing with teeny. No no I don't I just hope it comes out like flames or something I'd be sick, sh! We are already seeing the souvenir peak achieve visor live in game which I just got earlier. Nice but there was also souvenir confetti added so that's exciting. Grab that Gophers Confetti me that I need that. so new effects were added like different types of Confetti and even fireworks. Yeah, this is just like lines of code. So who the fuck knows with that means yeah. a few other things were added like a city challenge in some good exchanges for shiny pokemon. That's cool. It could be just tiny quality of life updates. the quality of life update has already been added to make raid passes be consumed only when the rain starts, and not when he joined the lobby Kudos, I know. People were waiting for that forever and now with remote rate invites. That's more important than ever. Because you can join the lobby to gauge interest and show people that you're interested, and if the clock is getting down, and no one's joining, you could just fucking bail, and you keep your pass. That's awesome. So I, looted to the top of the show that you know next, Wednesday will probably be the last Kiram rate our. We don't know what's coming next, but is leading right into the gophers weekend. So it wasn't listed in the actual AP. K. Mine of Zero Point one eight one point zero however. Polka miners did find in the traffic assets for shadow mu to. fucking not exciting. What you wanted you want to. You wanted to different shadow mutual with Chris Shiny Mu. I'm GONNA ride that I'll be early, but I'm going to ride clearly rival after Gopher fucking year cheese, Louise, but no shadow mu two is in the code very very freaking. Cool There was also some other kind of tiny stuff. They found with like what was it a new animation or a new something for your buddy? Happiness level? There is like a new happy level of of friendship. It's. It's just. There's a lot happening and I'm excited to see how this shit rolls out, and if it's going to roll out and push prior to go fast because if. Cure goes away on the twenty second and shadow mu two steps in. Maybe they can do something exciting with that for go fast. Who knows who knows? I don't Wanna I WANNA. guesstimate to too much, but. You mean tinfoil hat it. Yes, June, I was rocking the tin foil hat today on the GT G. Stream. No, no, no, no, you had the the sticker I did I had the POKEMON professor network sticker on in the front of it. It was great. It was branded tinfoil hag sell those in the shop. Hook him up professor dot com slash merch all right. Let's take a little break. Really Quick Adam. When we come back, we'll go through some miscellaneous news. We got some listener emails and. Got Some voicemails. Let's just do a brisk walk. Let's not. Set Run through it. Let's just briskly walk through I'm going to. Jog Power we'll. Be Jug. John. We'll be back right after this. A. And we are back from our break. Thank you so much for that. We appreciate you all very very much. 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Adam, tuttle as subscribe to your channel like Wow, dude! Thanks, thanks for the. Appreciate it only took a several years. All right little bit miscellaneous news to run through NIANTIC has released a print at home, arts and Crafts Kit to help get you in the the spirit of pokemon. Go I. Love this Shit. It is a bunch of crafts and they're very difficult. There's like a paper craft Polka Ball. Who Boy It's hard. You better be like export expert fucking Origami maker in order to create a sort of round ball out of a flat piece paper, nobody. It's very difficult, so just be ready for that. There's also some like life-size cut-out stuff. You could put together of the team leaders to make your own Mike Photo op stuff. If you print out every single page and then glued together just really cool shit, really fun, get into the spirit. Get Your community involved to be great for kids think it's really really cool. Let's take a moment to check in with Professor Willow, I'm wolf with gaming together media and this is. Will as ALMANAC all right quick calendar run through this? Friday July seventeenth go weekly challenge friendship with an also. The summer themed event Sunday the Nineteenth Ghastly Community Day Tuesday the twenty-first off spotlight. Our two times catch stardust Wednesday, the twenty second here and read our and Saturday and Sunday, the twenty fifth and twenty sixth. Go. Whip. Adam. We have some emails while we have an email and. Why don't you read? Re Jason wrote here it right you much, and then I'll talk about the article that he shirt. says. I also thought you might like to see this news link from Victoria Australia where a bunch of fines were handed out in the in his area to Pokemon go players. So this is great. This is I mean not really I. It's great, so there's like article that shows like a interview with like I, guess the police or some kind of authority figure from that area where people were not practicing like staying at home quarantine, and it's like the reasons. They gave her like people were making like midnight runs to KFC to buy food and they're out playing pokemon. Go and it was something like. Like three hundred and fifty fines to poke among go players like people that should not be out on the road, but their out like playing which I thought was when I know, you gotta catch a all Bro. You gotta catch them all, but Jason I love. You and you share shit like this. Thank you so much writing in the article is pretty funny, because one of the tweets in the article between like you know. The the news sector was like it's twenty. People are still playing poker Mongo. Like people just don't fucking. Get it like they just it's. It's funny good shit. All right and we got some We got some voicemails here and there little long so I will edit them down, but the first one from Sarah Manda. Amanda thank you so much for for calling in because she's drunk and it's fucking hilarious here we go. Manda meeting those, but how ones I start talking, I don't shut up. You know how she's calling withdrawn. Please don't. Just mean very well. Or do. Number Anyway. I work layers, rummell a lot Liz model and found out that I forgot. I should any shadows. HAS PNB. And timing. I held another opportunity to teacher, but Oh Amanda! You forgot you forgot the ever. Well to be fair I didn't. Remember that it was the time because I thought it was too. Yeah. You do big time to you. You I blew it. I blew it so hard. It was awful. It was awful. Because, we were supposed to record with with seven. Creator Series on Sunday at two PM. And then you had texted me and said Oh no, like because of the. Takeover? He's not gonNA. Be Available at that time so I was like Oh man. And I was like Oh. It's two o'clock. Now that we're not recording, libby, open the game and I can't. Ventures over at two o'clock, so my frustration level. I was just as high. so Adam Adam missed, too, but she goes on to like explain a couple of different things about You know what she has going on, and it was really fucking hilarious and. I love when you fucking call in because it's great. She talks about like subscribing to the calendar, and she had the calendar and You know it's all purple for her. Because when you share the counter with someone that's not colored in like I, have mine all color coded and Shit? But when you share the counter, it's all purple. You have to go in and manually change the colors, which is a pain in the ass, but We still have our calendar, so if you guys want alerts and things like that, so he could not be like. Yeah Adam. It's in the fucking calendar, so you didn't have Y- guess you didn't get the alert for it. But no check out the Lincoln description. You can download our Google calendar, which is a pain in the ass to get working, but if you get it working, all the shit is up there, so but I. Thank you so much, she yes, she starts talking about like different drinks that she likes long. Island iced tea and Shit it just it's great because it just goes on and on and on fucking rambling drunk voicemail fan. Thank you Amanda. This next one. This one is from Matty G. Ken Autumn how you doing. Eight I was calling about this whole and pavers is sweeping. The reasoning I believe it was. Paths go weakened properly in email, so you know to. Ask for this. I. Can't put a Says will be available. Guess what? It wasn't. Out Wasn't available until the eleven, but you don't completion being. Way 'cause you. GotTa go. No. Did it on the. Calendar. Trying to build a team who fight? A water team when talking at the end of the hey, what do do. Anyway looking. Conversations. Have on the podcast about whether antic may or may not do with what's going on. And how many other people? On us. Oh about! People either be experiencing or As? To who a an our now! This responsible, basically sorry about. There's no chance for two. Weeks in which again super assessor prisoners because know. That whole. Thank you so much for calling in. So this is weird so I I haven't heard too much about this, so if this is. If you've experienced, please let us know. But Ninety support puts out a tweet saying like on July tenth, saying like Hey, if you Giovanni by July tenth, it's going to be entertained, but after the certain time on July, tenth it will be sweet Koon and then sweet, whom will be available through the end of the month? But what ended up happening was I. Guess People were Battling Giovanni when it should have been sweet swoon and they were getting. So. If, they already had say I don't know if he has a second and now, but from what I understood, he's now saying he can't get sweet Kuhn, so he's going to have that whole in his tax for the shadow, speaking my goodness Jeez. Oh! I don't know is a pain in the. I don't know if he if he goes through the leaders again and gets. Will he get another super rocket radar to do Giovanni again and get this week? Tune I? Don't know so managing. Thanks for writing him, but let it let us know. Follow up on on that because our are. You really fucked here like I? I haven't. I gotta go on. Read it. I haven't seen too much about this. But if that's the case, and from the eleventh on when it should've been sweet and people were still getting Tay one. One does that mean that you have to entities and two is a really no way to then get shadow sweet coon like that would fucking sock. That would suck big time. So who've let us know if anyone else experienced that or me? No, Mattie, follow back up with us. Let us know if if you were in fact unable to get that soon, that would that yet. The completion, the completion EST in me would be fucking. Lose it as well because that would. That would just kill me especially if it's like. Because something in the game was broken ib fuck in bidder bitterness. But Adam I think that's a show. That is a wonderful show that was just had next week. Is Go fast man next week is. Next week so excited so excited. It's going to be great. It's going to be great like I. Just WanNa record a record Wednesday, but then I. also run a record on Saturday like after the first day, and then I want to record on Sunday the convey. Record Enough Adam so maybe we should record more. So by the way we did a record this past week with mystic seven, so that episode will be out in a couple of days are POPE DIV creator. Series came out last week. Please check that out on the Lourdes Lourdes. Up. Feed were recording with G to G. that media on Saturday and then next week on Friday. Before go fest, we're recording with Tom. Cruise Holy Shit. There's a lot going on with the show. Thank you everyone for us for for supporting us. It's been a wild ride and we're pushing hard and You make you guys make it all worth it. Thank you so so much for for all your support. It's been phenomenal. But Adam? That's a show anyone. You could email US Info at Lourdes up dot com, you can leave us a voicemail drunk if you'd like seven, three, two, eight, three, five, eight, six, three, nine, also take texts and pictures, and all that good stuff video. Checkout lured up dot com for everything that's going on with the show. Poke him on professor. That's going on for everything that's going on with the network connected with us on social media check out our merge store. Adam that it xenophobe. Yet just have a good morning afternoon night whenever you're listening to this I. Want you to be. Safe. 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Episode #1988 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

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Episode #1988 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"So let's say you're into yoga or pilates or maybe you dabble in gymnastics me. Either way you know being flexible is key to doing what you love. That's why smoothie king created the stretch inflec- smoothie for people like us with whole fruits and organic veggies plus type two collagen make it part of your daily fitness routine to support flexibility joint health. So try this. Stretch affects movie and tart cherry or pineapple kale order online today for pickup or delivery smoothie king rule the day. Hello everyone this is bobby duly. And this is the bob duly view. And i'm with my husband steve. We are in south. Florida as you know Once a month or once every other month fill. Henry pays the way of a variety of guests and staff to stay here in beautiful south florida Either at Jackie's home in weston or in the outlying hotels resorts stephen. I prefer to stay at the pillars or the marriott on hollywood beach. We enjoy it very much there steve. It's good it's fun. And steve being a man and a wonderful man the wonderful father and quite frankly Quite a a hunk. His eyes will wander and he'll notice a girl. Don't interrupt me steve. because that His eyes will wonder a. He'll notice the girl now as you all know. If you've followed the phil. Henry show There was a time when i might use my father's words My father's vernacular. I think is what they'd say. There might have been a time where i go ahead and take the shot With a writer a left hand Glancing blows something that would sting or ache for a few seconds and leave a to machination. What's the the memory of. it's coming back isn't it. But mr henry was very adamant that there would be no more Antics such as those. I understand They frown on domestic violence on the phil hendrie show. I don't hold on steve. You don't offer an opinion here. I don't consider it domestic violence when a woman is able to get off a good shot a good glancing stinging shot one. That's sort of just skips kinda skips the you almost said gonads but one that i. I'm not allowed to touch you so awesome. Mr henry is no longer allowing us to even fake. Like we're hitting each other. So all i can do is look at steve and remember when yeah remember you had fun. You know dan dancing one off by nutbag. You're gonna get in trouble for that. Why don't get in my grill steve. You're gonna get in trouble because you just said i danced one off your nutbag. Yes you did. Forgive me steve. Is referring to a time when i got off a good right hand that i timed and aimed perfectly sort of very crisply. Just glanced sort of nicked the underside of his know. What that extra days didn't down. Oh yeah yeah see. Yeah but look. I'm not here to talk about The fund that steven steven. I have when we're working our marital difficulties out. I'm here to talk about button. Lake butler lake. And we've had so much fun. We've got the butter queen. Which is our twenty four footer. Well last summer not last summer. Before i get the summer before the butter queen. We lost the butter queen on colo. Jetty hank vans mer decided he was going to use the channel and we were on our way over to the landing to get another six pack of and it was at that time in that place Just got my way. And i try to run him up on cooler jetty or or at least i try to get into government. Run off you know. Even the cut off the cutoff. Steve tried to push him into goblin. Cut off but instead we got rounded up or or ran up. Get the grammar. Yeah i think proper grandma got run. Run run run. We re run my god. You sound as if you have some sort of a parkinson's no we got. We got rounded up on a did onto kulon jedi So butter queen. We have now the butter clean to and The other thing that happened was the cabin burned down the summer of two thousand nineteen you who were with us. At that time you remember. We posted pictures. We lost the cabin Near the goblin ditch or goblin cut off. I think Our cabin is located equidistance between goblin ditch and butner cut off and Right there in the heart of google. Well bobby i got it steve. No bobby misses a the name of it. Is google or google in creek and the reason why they call it that as a dispute between the butler family and dan goblin was the main You might say the main the first owner of the marina here and They wanted it named the butner. Marina and dan goblin wanted to be called. Gone goblins squat or the the goblin squats and finally they They just combine both teams into google in. And now it's called the google and yeah it's great. It's called the google and people know that's the harbor or we just call it the landing but We live in the middle of we. Oh god deva's dog down there. Thank god there's a dog down on jackie's canal we see the little tip of the white tail just wagging along as a little doggies. What cute little tail a little doggy. Kirby is in the back. Had there'd be some crazy scenes going on right now in any event so our home was equidistance. Between the cutoff the a button cutoff and google. Excuse me goblin ditch. And we're in an area called the google in It's a little valley. it's very beautiful. It's a frequent valley. Yeah great many Bound flowers wildflowers. And everything yeah great steve. I'm glad you know all about flowers. You know you know so much about flowers. How about giving your your wife a dozen or so every now and again and you know what honey. You're right forget nothing beats flowers. Give a lady flowers that well okay. Nothing beats flowers. Give lady flowers. And steve's grinning like he means something else by that. I'll tell you mr henry. Henry hadn't put the handcuffs on me. You'll be one i'd be. I'd be dancing just a quick light shot all right so we live in the google in our cabin burned to the ground in the google in or in the valley of the google and they say or in the valley of the jolly goodland. There's a lot of different Things we call it here in butner lake bobby. We had some questions of people and they wanted to know what was meant by your tweet Yesterday where you said That lake Lockport near was also a way of referring to lake butner. Got back run on that. Thanks so much steve. The reason why lake butler is called a butner. Not ler god forgive. There was a man by the name of jean butler. Who used to Rent all kinds of cabins around here trying to get the place he wanted to get the lick change to butler lake and We just wouldn't have. We said it's butler. He said well close enough for jazz and we said oh and you can rent every home you can turn i. I said to him you could turn every mother's son into a pimp and all of the wives and women here into your five dollar horse ain't not to happen. Yeah that's right so we said to him too because he got enough money where he was renting all these houses. He was buying drinks buying dinner for by one night. I said oh my said mr butler sir. I'm just a you know. Just a man man like any other man trying to get by speeches. Steve just barking. So anyway i said you try and change my wife in a five dollar hor go costume and he says to me trying to be funny about five bucks. I said well he made it. He made too much sense for you. Didn't he yeah. But anyway it didn't happen did not happen. And so we were able to retain it but getting back to the original story late. Butner excuse me. Button or lake is sometimes called. Look but near. And the reason for that is a twofold one one of the early settlers. This area was a frenchman By the name of claude mill. Yuck and he was a trapper. He where he he dealt in furs. And i don't wanna get any further into it. But he dealt with it. Well okay say at you you. you'd traps. He had beaver traps. So these to kid around and say Clot whatever's then. Forget his name claude. Monet club monier He traps believe things like stupid. Things like that. but anyway so He he used to call it but near lick but near but really what happened was one dan and when the button family were coming west Goblins family asked the butlers will. Are we getting close and the buttons scouts of the party again. We're talking about this. Wasn't that long ago with the early twentieth century but these were not very intelligent people so they they literally needed scouts even though they were driving cars on highways and had gas stations they could stop and get directions at put me on. No i'm not. I got sylvia. Bengals told me the story so the goblin family would say you know. Have we arrived at lake butler and they would say no. We haven't gotten there yet. It's not you know it's it's close it. No they'd say it's we're not there yet but near yeah so got spit it out. Why don't you. I'm sorry so We're not there yet but near and that's when the youngest goblin goblin goblins go. Gal gal governor gave said oh luck but near t he and everyone laughed and they frolicked into the night. I i believe. They lit a bonfire that night and danced around. It like wild indians In celebration of them get enough alive in celebration to them getting a line like that which don't send me i don't up the rest of you. Only way. that's the story of how lake button is sometimes referred to as luck but near are we there no but near was What was the deal deal. Goblets family asked. It was gaber gal goblin. They asked it of old man. Butler old man butter was asked and he said no but near and they said hey luck but near and they danced and sang and that's when the button her family said well might as well join in and they all joined in and dan like indians to own well well into the night. So that's our story and we're sticking to it We'll be talking to you guys. Probably on tuesday's show state. Because phil would like us to fill is trying to get back in the game. There's a lot going on. He's writing some things and he's you know so we may be doing the tuesday show as well. But i wanted you all to Get that story because we've had so many questions about Button lake and whether they're going to be back this summer. Yes we will We'll be we are rebuilding googling and We'll be seeing a lot of you out there at goblins squats or at the goodland squat or as we like to call it simply the landing the landing If you see a sexy girl or a guy buying six or a blasts that'd be means steve. And we're on the butter queen to twenty four twenty four Ever outboard outboard inboard to bore them with the details but We'll see this summer at butner lake. Bobby ann steve duly with the story of luck but near and button lake on today's phil hendrie show webcast. If you enjoyed today's show webcast and are of a mind go over to i tunes and leave a review and alike. Give a big five star and say you think this is the shit. Excuse my french. But i'll do it. 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NPR News: 05-19-2019 6AM ET

NPR News Now

04:55 min | 2 years ago

NPR News: 05-19-2019 6AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Amy held severe thunderstorms. Continue to bring heavy rain across the central part of the country, damaging winds large hail and tornadoes, all pose threats yesterday in Abilene, Texas. Strong winds damaged around one hundred structures. Leading to the evacuation of a nursing home. Here's mayor Anthony Williams by did son a declaration of disaster earlier that will provide an opportunity if needed down the road to possible, possibly secure funds from the state and also a federal government. The Texas governor says he is making the state's resources available to Abilene meantime, in saturated parts of the midwest. Flash flooding remains a concern. Dozens of students and some faculty staged a walkout yesterday at Indiana's Taylor university. They were protesting vice President Mike Pence who delivered the commencement address. But Indiana, public broadcasting's barb Johnno reports. Pence faced mostly friendly crowd at the Evangelos school who gave him a standing ovation in his home state of Indiana. Vice President Mike Pence touted what he called financial and social successes of Trump's administration among them, it's pro life stance, but made no mention of recent controversial state laws regarding abortion. And I couldn't be more proud to be part of the new administration. The stood strong on the timeless values that have made this nation. Great stood without apology for the sanctity of human life. Some students and faculty walked out in peaceful protest during prearranged times before the vice president gate, his commencement address. They were allowed back into the ceremony afterwards to receive their diplomas for NPR news. I'm Barbara Yano in Fort Wayne, Indiana, some demonstrators protesting Israel's treatment of Palestinians gathered outside the Tel Aviv venue, of the Eurovision song contest, but NPR's, Daniel estrin reports. The show went on with the Netherlands, beating out singers from more than two dozen countries Dutch, contestant Duncan. Lawrence was crowned the champion with his ballad called arcade votes came in from television, viewers, and judges, mostly from Europe and also other countries Eurovision is one of the world's most watched televised events with about two hundred million viewers. It's glitzy pop music affair with extravagant costumes pyrotechnics, Madonna was a guest performer pro Palestinian activists. Call them contestants to boycott Eurovision in Israel, none did. But Iceland's contestants held up. Flags marked Palestine and Madonna's performance, featured a surprise political message with two dancers, wearing Isreaeli in Palestinian flags and featuring the slogan up Daniel estrin, NPR, news, Tel-Aviv Australia's, Scott Morrison has secured another term as prime minister after a surprise sweep in Saturday's federal elections. His wind up ends polls predicting a loss for his coalition, government, I made me held in Washington, and you're listening to NPR news. The Navajo nation council is working to maintain its culture, it voted to broaden a healing practitioner program training, people to become a medicine, man, or medicine woman. Laurel Morales from member station. K J, Z Z reports in the nineteen seventies, they were nearly one thousand traditional, healers today, the numbers closer to three hundred traditionally the knowledge of a medicine, man or woman was passed down to a son or daughter. But as more and more young people move away or lose interest in their culture. Navajo leaders have decided to open up the vocation to the whole tribe. Benji nez overseas the program, we still are losing our culture, and our language, and our also are where medicine people because often marred passing on with the what the ceremonies the knowledge into wisdom that they have people in the program apprentice with healing practitioners to learn specific ceremonies that are in danger of being lost for NPR news. I'm lorrimore Ellis, inflec- staff. Comedians Sammy shore, who? Co-founded. The comedy store in Hollywood has died at the age of ninety two in nearly seven decades in the industry. Short open for big names, including Sammy Davis, junior Barbra Streisand end Elvis here he is in one thousand nine hundred seven opening the Elvis, Presley anniversary concert. Gentlemen, poem poem Emmanuel Volve waiting for king of rock and roll. A legend in his own time component, but I Sam shore. Sure, survived by his wife and children, including son, paulie shore who followed in his father's comedy footsteps. He tweeted he will work to carry on his father's legacy on stage. You're listening to NPR news. Support for NPR and the following message come from Dulles International Airport with the highest on time takeoff percentage of any airport on the east coast. I a d means I'm already departing more at fly dollars dot com slash fast.

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NPR News: 05-18-2019 5PM ET

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04:39 min | 2 years ago

NPR News: 05-18-2019 5PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Janine, Herbst, Missouri. Lawmaker is apologizing for using the phrase consensual rate before voting on a Bill that bans abortions after eight weeks of pregnancy, NPR's, Bobby Allen reports, cetera public backlash. The legislator now says he misspoke, Missouri Representative berry Hovis was arguing on the house floor that eight weeks is plenty of time for a woman to have an abortion, Hovis, who is a Republican and a former police officer talked about his experience investigating rape cases, most, my rapes were not the, the gentleman jumping out of the bushes that nobody ever met. That was one or two times out of one hundred. Most of them were date rapes are consensual rapes, which were all terrible, Missouri Democrats, and legions on social media lashed out at Hove is over the comment. Hovis now says it was made in air, Missouri lawmakers passed a Bill Friday criminalizing abortions after eight weeks with no exceptions for rape, or incest victims. The governor has promised to sign it. Bobby allen. NPR news. Federal judge has sentenced a former CIA spy to twenty years in prison for spying for China and here Shanna van Zandt reports Kevin Mallory was convicted on charges of conspiring to transmit US defense secrets to China. The Justice department says Mallory had many sensitive jobs, with government agencies and defense contractors, including as a covert case officer for the CIA and intelligence officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency, Mallory held a top secret security clearance and transmitted classified documents to China and exchange for twenty five thousand dollars and Pearson ovens. Aunt reporting Austrian chancellor Sebastian Kerr's says the country will hold a snap election, after a scandal involving his coalition partner, the friar far-right Freedom Party, carry Skyring has more from Vienna a day of high political drama in Austria vice-chancellor, Heinz, Christian struck resigned over video in which he promises, lucrative government contracts and. Exchange for financial support from a woman posing as the niece of a Russian oligarch. Now, conservative chancellor, says enough is enough a reference to other scandals involving his far-right coalition partner Austria. He said, should hold elections as soon as possible, meaning the government will have lasted less than two years. The video scandaled his shocked Austrians of all political persuasions and thousands directed anger. At the chancellor chanting outside his office resign now for NPR news. I'm Kerry Skyring in Vienna. Another round of severe weather is hitting the central states officials say, three suspected tornadoes touched down in Texas and Oklahoma in balance. Your Texas homes were damaged and trees revived down, local media video shows flipped cars and building damage in Abilene, Texas leaving thousands without power. The national weather service has issued tornado watches for parts of several states, including Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Missouri. You're listening to NPR news from Washington. Amid rising tensions in the Persian. Gulf Bahrain is ordering all of its citizens to leave Iran and Iraq immediately, the country's foreign ministry cited what it calls the unstable situation in the region and threats against security and stability. But crane is a small SUNY ruled island nation the coast of Saudi Arabia. It regularly accuses of Ron of stirring dissent in its showed majority population. The Navajo nation council pass legislation this week to renew a training program to become a medicine, man or woman. The drive is concerned about losing its culture and ceremonies. Laurel Morales for member station. K J, Z Z has more. Traditionally, the knowledge of a medicine, man or woman was passed down to a son or daughter. But as more and more young people move away or lose interest in their culture. Navajo leaders have decided to open up vocation to the whole tribe, Banji nez overseas the program, we still are losing our culture and our language, and our also are where medicine people because often are passing on with the what the ceremonies the knowledge into wisdom that they have people in the program apprentice with healing practitioners to learn specific ceremonies that are in danger of being lost for NPR news. I'm lorrimore Ellis. Inflec- staff preliminary talks are underway about the possible sale of one of the biggest casinos in the northeast win resorts, and MGM resorts are in discussions about the sale of wins Boston Harbor casino complex to MGM. This comes as win is about to open another casino. I'm Janine Herbst. And you're listening to NPR news from Washington.

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WN TBD: Inside Facebook's Political Ad Mess

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

20:18 min | 1 year ago

WN TBD: Inside Facebook's Political Ad Mess

"They after founding the Huffington Post Arianna Huffington worked around the clock until she experienced a wakeup call that inspired her to change her life and build global business helping others you can hear her story on that made all the difference a new podcast about the defining moments in the lives of six achievers worked in the world enough to know that that was not what I thought but I was not an easy easy interviewer like I was very clear don't hire me if you don't mean eh I'm very excited to help this company think through these very challenging questions of what role are we playing in global politics and global hope you like it on Wednesday of this week Mark Zuckerberg went up to Capitol Hill regular conversation she's an idealist but she says she wasn't naive about the challenges I didn't have rose colored glasses thinking I was going to change the company an old enough and Chrissy and so I went in thinking if what they offered me is true which was to build and had this new team about facebook's cryptocurrency Lebron in practice he was there to be opinion for members of Congress Mr Thank you chairwoman waters wrecking member mckenry and members of the committee thank you for the opportunity to testify today in theory he was there to testify she was looking for the next thing and facebook came calling I watched the entire hearing I watched how many times he talked about elections in particular around hi I'm Lizzie leary and if you're wondering why you're hearing my voice and the world as a top priority they called me and gave me the exact title that spoke to the core of my priorities and who I am in fact check politicians speech and Zuckerberg's last time in front of Congress was in the spring of two thousand eighteen yell Eisenstein remembers that day perfectly offered me this shiny title of Head of Global Elections Integrity Operations Yell is the kind of person talks about civil discourse and preserving democracy in facebook now allows politicians to pay to spread disinformation in twenty twenty elections and in the future so I just want to know how far I can push so you'll hear me every Friday morning in your what next feet and you'll still get regular what next Monday through Thursday plus those great impeachment roundup shows are now on Friday afternoons the last time he testified was the day they made a job offer to me in fact they actually call me with the final offer one minute after his testimony ended that day yells background is fast not Mary Harris's it's because we're bringing you a new show it's called what next TVD and it's part of the what next family focused on tech power and the future doc Berg I want to get through a number of questions diverse asset management fair housing issues diversity and inclusion in privacy dating she's been a CIA officer advised Vice President Biden on national security done corporate responsibility for companies and in two thousand eighteen at that point in her life scene auctions around the world then how could I say no if you can hear in her voice but it didn't work out the way she wanted well that's true ask new plan on doing no back checking on political ads chairwoman our policy is that we do not today on the show why the fight over political ads on facebook his really a battle about something much bigger I'm Lizzie O'Leary and to hire a team and to really help think through what is the best way for us to ensure that we are not harming democracy you're day in particular lawmakers seem to want to focus on facebook's policy of not fact checking political ads you announced recently that the official policy of what next TVD a show about technology power how the future will be determined stay with us how do you studying also elusive it's known as the ghost of the mountain for researchers at the Snow Leopard Trust the answer is artificial intelligence by using Microsoft Day I to analyze thous remote camera images for snow leopards a task that used to take three days is now done in minutes so researchers have more time to save this threatened species C every industry uses tech today there are high paying careers software engineering data analytics data science product design to take your place in the World L. 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Ai This is a show about tech and honestly next workforce you need the right tech skills you need an education that leads to a career you need thankful thankful is a better way to learn all their courses ride cared about whether it be democracy civil discourse our national security was no longer coming from this thing abroad that I was working on taken completely online with full-time INFLEC- study options so you can commit one hundred percent or keep working while you left your skills thankful offers an unmatched level of one on one support also work with an expert career adviser helping you put to get the perfect resume Organiz mock interviews to ensure that you're hired within six months out of it overseas but in two thousand fifteen she started rethinking her focus it started occurring to me that a bigger threat in my mind to all the things to blame and I said something along the lines of I don't think Mark Zuckerberg set out to destroy democracy and gave us platform even when it would otherwise breach our normal content rules of course that got major pushback most notably from Elizabeth Warren Workforce but thankful to dot com slash. What next to start building the future you want that's T. H. I N. K. F. U. L. Dot com policies decisions conflicts over the last few weeks this question of facebook's role in public discourse is back in the headlines specifically how facebook treats politic having been a CA officer yes having been AC- I after having been a diplomat overseas having worked on the ground with real people affected by I do fundamentally believe that but we cannot deny that platform has been abused and league clear with you today we do not submit speech by politicians to our independent fact checkers and we generally allow it on the Ashley what next before Ya'll went to work for facebook she'd been deep in the National Security World Brin and Joe Biden and last week Mark Zuckerberg defended the policy in a speech he gave at Georgetown couching it as part of facebook's larger commitment to free speech already have access to media access to information especially in countries that have more digital regimes and you'd be squashing the voice of the smaller party completing the course and the best part if they don't help you get a job within six months your tuition is fully reimbursed it's time to take your place in the world's next would probably be the easiest thing to do because I assume you're not actually making as much money from political advertising as you are from industries and other stuff however advertising side and understand what is actually the underlying drivers here do you remember your first day first week Oh yeah not together given the sensitivity around political ads I've considered when we should stop allowing them all together gle advertising good afternoon thank you very much for allowing me to spend ten minutes or so with you this afternoon our facebook that's Nick Clegg facebook the only reason it was happening but did start exploring then started speaking about it and and was asked once on podcast do I think mark Zuckerberg is including right now is how many people they've hired with backgrounds like mine for example to help them fix these problems ZAC and former British politician and we're playing this tape because he kicked off this advertising controversy again when he spoke the Atlantic Festival recently and that's why I want to be re one of the questions they asked me during my interview which I actually heard Mark Zuckerberg talk about during his speech the other day they asked me do you think we should ban political advertising the little a person so I do actually fundamentally believe that and I heard Mark Zuckerberg say that the other day and I agree with him political ads can be an important part of voice oh I don't think you guys should ban political advertising because I look at this globally and if you ban political advertising you're tilting the scales towards the incumbents who ah they let it happen so I wanted to look at the political discourse all together over the platform from the organic side to the to the especially for local candidates and up and coming challengers advocacy groups in the media might not otherwise cover that way they can get their voice into the debate my first meeting which was zoom meeting because I was a Menlo Park and my boss was not very first meeting with my new boss she let me know that and they have they've hired some amazing people I had some amazing colleagues there but hiring us and empowering us are two different things and from day one started putting out all these different ideas which means there was a hunger to have this conversation at least and again it's not about facebook telling me about about talking to us I was why I think there's so much noise out there and I am not one of those people who wants to contribute to the noise anyway anybody in the media's goal is to try to contribute to all of this craziness that's going on but at the end of the day in order for you to actually get talk about is what are some of the solutions to help make sure that we have a healthy Internet that we can preserve all of our values which includes freedom of speech I have to change your title your title is now going to be manager I'll just say one of the things that we hear them tout a lot I as ornamentation so I as you know like any place drink the company Kool aid very rarely in very exciting and my second day the actually day to sorry it was made crystal clear to me I would never be empowered to do anything because of that yellow facebook after six months but while she was there she did raise this question about political I did pose that question in what's called an internal tribe at facebook me Titians what they can and can't say by I do know that there were zero appetite beyond the engineers PM's to actually even consider whether we should and I started thinking it was bread breakdown of civil discourse here at home so start digging in started looking at why that was happening and I'm not saying social media's I wanted to understand if we're able to use fact checkers to start to actually address this misinformation problem on organic content play on facebook and on Youtube and get out there you also have to play the game and have a salacious click bait title and so it is very hard for me to a from a business perspective the controversy certainly is not worth the very small part of our business that they make up and I did say you know what I and I also I mean if you're going to I

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Enjoy Interactive Fiction with Frotz for iOS

AppleVis Podcast

25:57 min | 2 years ago

Enjoy Interactive Fiction with Frotz for iOS

"Hello and welcome to another. Apple this podcast. Hello, everybody. My name is over TOA will in. I'm here to demonstrate an iphone slash ipad app. Cold fronts. It spilt if our OTC in this app is an update you could play text based games tech space, meaning you you interact with basically the screen in text for men, text based it ventures that you can play using this in using commands that you type in to respond to negate he use that using new standard typing Manson using voice over in this. You'll see later in this demonstration voiceover actually's. Pretty good relaying all this continent in this application. So what is this about? Well, some people might remember playing those old style games like text based games in their computers their docks order dos framework. I mean, or whatever in the they they just typing commands in the game tells them what is of like reading a novel by instead of directing in unit still bleeding. You are actually interacting with an oval you tremendous story. Some of us that grew up with Brel notes. Like, braille know apex realm power you're actually able to play these games. So for those of you who enjoy this kinda games. That's great. Great news. This up allows you to play those kind gates. You can actually do that for for those of you who are new to this. You is going to be a great interaction. To the world of these six metre games. So what will happen in this demonstration? I really show you the interface of the application of the fruits up next. We're going to setting sin. Find out what this up KENDALL. We're going to get started section. Why not help available next? We will actually search for game to play on the online repository and explain how that works a little bit in the Leslie will actually playing find out how it works in them straight things that you can do the game without further for their do women of lunch. The application. We're going to go into fruits frauds fraught eagle I'm going to dole top. Trust route browse have debate gotten. Okay. So this is the app interests. We're going to move around this application. I'm gonna flick right to move on element by trots settings button. This your settings button. What I soon is going to be in upper right corner of the screen at it gotten issue standard IOS edit bought at a button Rican arrange things things it's ever selected story. Search search field. So we are in this select the story is the main the meat of the of the application here when main frame section of the tissue in we will this just your search. We search she if you had like hundreds of games here, you can find one vice specific name does he can here. So let's continue looking recently played adding recent e played this section were only recently played fire. Are listed here. So balances gotten more info balances gotten one of three so they're three recently play games. Rookie scoring L artery button. More info L artery gotten to three varies Ella button. More info varies Ella button. Three three awesome. Cleo, three next story list, adding lewke. So this is the story in this. This is a story need you can play stories that you can play in. This is just a list of games in that these games York nationally are actually installed in your library. So we'll go through nine five button. More info nine five gotten one of nine I currently have ninety install game so inactive murder gotten more info and act of murder gotten to of nine in just with anything in this deck world, some games of descriptive titles. Filename seen some aren't right. Now, I have found a way to rename these files. So just just a thought here all rounds? Gotten more info all roads button, tree of nineties, more info buttons NATO, you the midday of the ova games in whether about some of her descriptions, some don't, but the most part you find the description the game. They're the game snow is looking at the book information the back of a book, you're going to liberate snack kind kind information, the author title, John Ron scripture, everything that's in here anchor had gotten more info anchor had button for if not bounces more info nap L. Arthur it's more in various other more in the weapon button. More CR K M. I T version button to there's of games on what I wanted to do. Right now is. We were going to settings in. We'll find out exactly what this is all about more more info settings button settings. I'm gonna go attempt here. I moved to the top of the screen by using forefinger tap on the top of the screen involved the settings. So they will type settings adding six wherein a sitting row nujis- keeper fricking here gun button info, adding there several sections in year also says this is the info, but about trust gotten about fronts tells you the application version zero number all that stuff that technical in. It can be useful. So people would getting started button getting started. So actually went to going here. Yes. Some various information for specifically for those of you who played this kind of games. They're actually pretty fun games to play final getting stopped settings back button getting started adding no flicking, right? Getting permission gun gotten, Saddam. But we're Oakley news interactive fiction heading level to okay. So I'm going to let voice over read. So that commission I'm going to just a little bit. Just a bit of time to introduce you inexpedient each game's about case. So I'm going to between. Here we go interactive fiction makes you the main character in a story you control what your character does by entering imperative. Commands such as such as light the lamp or give the banana to the monkey so he's kind of input. You can take you can just type. Ping. I action administrators on a little bit his very visible experience. So let's keep reading at the story prompt. So you've seen that you can take these things at the story prompt greater than if contains many sub genres ranging from classic puzzled as adventure against and treasure hunts to murder mysteries to more literary works with intricate plots and character interaction since every story is different most support about and help commands to get you started. Okay. So basically seeing when you hit the girl than prompt you can type in your command in you can just keep things. Explain things in going things. All that. It's like, you know, these audio games three games people. Enjoy so much so people, you know, they hiring actors in professional recordings in all the they can be could expensive at here in these games. You get to use your imagination. You you get to know spoiler Mino bit. With just stinking problems. All. A little bit sharpen your skills. It though have to worry about large file sizes that skin efficiently runs in your your phone just like interrupting with a novel. So I'm going to know really where do I start adding level to if you've never played interactive fiction before don't worry frost include several stories that are well suited to beginners. Mosque Hegg table start. You plan named grunk on a mission in his clever and entertaining game bronze wound trusting in a game. That's set in considering hold. This one dream in the dream hold. You exploring wizard's castle. Looking for clues your past also designed for people who are new to it which to'real help and even the Americans. So okay. So what would you do is will go out known what the scheme the dream hold? It says that includes Katori in includes information about how do you get started playing this interactive fiction so age wanted one get gun gotten so on go browse have EBay. So we move the top. The screen at the from the sittings altogether in the get started together in we're going to do is. We're back in the interest in the main screen. We're going to click on this debate gotten browse. I if teepee which is basically interactive drug to fiction database in which these games can be located his games. Now. Most of these games a little bit open source. So you don't pay for it. Some some you know are paid most of them are maintained by an community. This you know, it's open sourcing you. They just won't tears. They weren't particular time. Just write these games Ross for people action we pleases. So I'm not a though to have your story last button story browser adding story browser what what wearing going to be interacting with here. He sa- standard browser collect safari in for FOX in all that. Just like whip rose this up is using standard whip kit IOS development platforms. So that we can track this standard whip browser. But he's actually very acceptable. So omen just keep freaking rows rank table start. Heritage. Article line search link. James is rich text field submit button checks 'field for seek of clarity on just gonna river. You this is just your search bar in weakening explore the screen little bit in find out. What is available, but to could might point a little bit across. I'm just gonna search for this this games game. Text field is heading insertion points at start. I go to win burn a broader, my keyboard new. I'm going to see if I can find work speak find rail screen input for inclusion market, landscape dot happening. Ancient? Oh. Portrait. So find the game. They're mentioning the dream whole sexually pretty nice game. I used to Baker my brethren. Log in rank dream old Zia dream old z eight glenk dream old Zayd glenk drift windows game package link dream bold dream old noggin link dribbled Zayd link image table, curl. We phoned the game. Squadron cold, gut z z eight is defined extinction. 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Gotten more info CR, I'm actually scrolling through the doing the forefinger tap in the bottom of the screen us closer to the bottom of the app in find this because his starts with t in alphabetically sorted. The weapon varies Ella. L or through the whole. Oh, okay. So clean. So I'm going to dole up this. The dribble back button in a mood to explore the screen froze settings button. Caso just like a new screen you like on keyboard button. So dimmed like, Sal dimmed? That's I'm gonna spend a little bit. This is called the status bar. I would sit sale dent is. So I to be the name of the place, you're in usually names of Rome locations, when they call are putting the status bar stems can be access by going to hear twice over in screwing for that time shifts inflec-, Sal, I'm going to flick in you read some permission time shifts and flattens days and decades folding decide like pages in a book. 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I'll let you go on exploring the west corridor leads back to the south where you started. So you'll want to try out his heirs instead type of our clients. There's carrot. So it's just going to tell you what to do is continue other of this that. Did you notice that is actually very very accessible with voice? I want to try you know, climb the stairs. I am be prime as he asked. Or it can just go up doesn't matter or Bris or up commander or type up in Brazil. Join just climb stairs. You begin climbing. The stairs. They seem to go on for a long while Alexis pressing between Tim stonewalls, whereas the light coming from. You haven't seen a window yet, Alexis climbing, Alexis, how far Alexis until you ask the doorway to warm candlelight crowded study Houston amid clutter Ogden's shale since stacks the chamber is comfortably broad centered around a massive and well-worn wooden desk, but so much as Johnson around the end of the penalty walls that you barely find rooms to stand books papers dried plants animals, stuffed and preserved antique instruments candles at any Hugh. You don't recognize half of it and who can't name half the rest there are why doorways on the north and east sides of the room adore heavyweight stands close to the south and stairs descend into gymnast to the west. You see an immense book on the desk behind the desk as it tall glass. Fronted cabinet beside that as a small brass trunk which has closed if there were a quarter as much here and attempt as many books, you might be in any scholars study. But this knowledge must represent lifetimes of were. Work lifetimes under a single hand. You do not know where you are. But you care. Care dot for. You can get us the story. What's going on over? Notice. How successful these are you typing your command you Bris entering on your keyboard or Nikes, I'm typing my commanding my breasts Brielle screen input screen in flicking, my two fingers with down on the screen in. I pressed. Let's enter in its reading everything. So it's very simple. You can just kinda know what this is about for the purposes of this tracing on Warner see if I can. Not act paper pay as the next papers books are lined up on shelves stacked on the floor scattered in hazard across everything else in the room you glance titles, generally covered. But recognize none of them any scripts and languages you. Find something in the chaos catches, your it. Looks like a white pappy notching ask lying beside the desk. Command greater done. It's a mask. So I taking examine peepers or experience for short is known. I can. But anyway, he says is known as that there's a mask revealing behind papers papers. So we'll do is. I'm going to take say tape. Etang? I can't repeat mask taken yours. Go has gone up. Your score is displayed in the top of my corner of the window. One of seven means you've achieved one out of seven main goals this increase when you picked up the so dot four also known as it said the score is split on the right top quarter of the window. That's for the the author assumes using screen here. We're not using the screen. We are using a screen reader voiceover portrait. Adding someone to go back to the to the area on the flick left with input helper got greater than crowded study wanted seven dimmed I flick left couple of several times until I found that the area where it says dimmed the back earlier one is the cell knowing knowing says crowded study wanted seven dimmed Laura study one of seven so that's the score us a status mom, so not is according to this game. You're one of seven tasks you need to achieve in get or one of seven masks the. Get in. This instance. End in the score is how each display here. Okay. So now what what I'm going to do some going to get of this game. The game will save automatically. So, you know, in in your device, or in your dropbox someone explain a little bit enough selected story. The dream old got my scrub with two fingers quickly too thick the back button. So now, I'm going to going to horn fell the dream old settings sings settings adding gun info padding consume about getting start to what's new button file transfer button farm where you can actually transfer just explaining quickly with e can do Hyun can actually transfer your files, your your games in your safe games, which are separate files to your iphone via a browser or we know exploring though, or MAC or whatever in this. This is phone here will actually act as a whip. You can transfer game files here. So that's what you can do preferences. Adding you preferences, X color button for those who low-vision resume users seen you are interested in commenting yourself. Here's your color background color, who wasn't your background color. Story. Font gotten you funds. Font size, twelve this phone scrutiny? Take twelve if you wanna read go along with voiceover. Roy large sprint as will resume. You can do that increases very flexible twenty five percents adjustable. Nielsen has a thirty five percent font size thirteen that you can adjust just lickin Euler just bar. My by doing up and down with one finger thirty five for toward completion word completion. Switch button off. I personally thrown off because you know, it assumes you it's like Tech's prediction on voiceover. Insa? Mrs may not play. So without story. Infants. Editing story infiltrating switch button off drama settings button, jump FOX cities. This is the most important thing who of you who want to on a little bit more cloud, like ignition your files evening. Your dropbox interviews a macrophages a windows machine. You can put both gain files in saved game violence here in reset preferences, default you can do that reset prep dropbox settings button. Mogollon Hewlett settings back button dropbox settings adding looking right with when finger done button frost is currently links to your dropbox account this automatically synchronized saved game files with your dropbox. So you can easily share them between multiple devices going awesome reeling to dropbox account. It looks at unlinked account dropbox folder for FRANZ files. Heading sake folder slash frauds. Text field. This gift licking to get to the substance. This is the Ford or in which he will sink it will sink. You your games? The you save to computer you play it will create a fuller name fruits in it will do that tagging. You can save your files in. Okay, that's pretty much it from from me to demonstrate the fronts app, if our OTC, that's how it spell fronts if our rotea, see, okay. 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Inside Facebook's Political Ad Mess

Slate's If Then

20:18 min | 1 year ago

Inside Facebook's Political Ad Mess

"Global business helping others you can hear her story on that made all the difference a new podcast about the defining moments in the lives of six achievers they after founding the Huffington Post Arianna Huffington worked around the clock until she experienced a wakeup call that inspired her to change her life and build Chrissy and so I went in thinking if what they offered me is true which was to build and had this new team worked in the world enough to know that that was not what I thought but I was not an easy easy interviewer like I was very clear don't hire me if you don't mean Eh. I'm very excited to help this company think through these very challenging questions of what role are we playing in global politics and global hope you like it on Wednesday of this week Mark Zuckerberg went up to Capitol Hill. Hi I'm Lizzie leary and if you're wondering why you're hearing my voice and in fact check politicians speech and Zuckerberg's last time in front of Congress was in the spring of two thousand Eighteen Yell Eisenstein remembers that day perfectly thank you chairwoman waters wrecking member mckenry and members of the committee thank you for the opportunity to testify today in theory he was there to testify about facebook's cryptocurrency. Lebron in practice he was there to be opinion for members of Congress Mr the world as a top priority they called me and gave me the exact title that spoke to the core of my priorities and who I am she was looking for the next thing and facebook came calling I watched the entire hearing I watched how many times he talked about elections in particular around today on the show why the fight over political ads on facebook his really a battle about something much bigger. I'm Lizzie O'Leary and facebook now allows politicians to pay to spread disinformation in twenty twenty elections and in the future so I just want to know how far I can push not Mary Harris's it's because we're bringing you a new show it's called what next TVD and it's part of the what next family focused on tech power and the future Berg I want to get through a number of questions diverse asset management fair housing issues diversity and inclusion in privacy the last time he testified was the day they made a job offer to me in fact they actually call me with the final offer one minute after his testimony ended that day yells background is fast so you'll hear me every Friday morning in your what next feet and you'll still get regular what next Monday through Thursday plus those great impeachment roundup shows are now on Friday afternoons regular conversation she's an idealist but she says she wasn't naive about the challenges I didn't have rose colored glasses thinking I was going to change the company an old enough and offered me this shiny title of Head of Global Elections Integrity Operations Yell is the kind of person talks about civil discourse and preserving democracy in what next TVD a show about technology power how the future will be determined stay with US dating she's been officer advised Vice President Biden on national security done corporate responsibility for companies and in two thousand eighteen at that point in her life to hire a team and to really help think through what is the best way for us to ensure that we are not harming democracy scene auctions around the world then how could I say no if you can hear in her voice but it didn't work out the way she wanted well that's true ask you plan on doing no back checking on political ads chairwoman our policy is that we do not you're day in particular lawmakers seem to want to focus on facebook's policy of not fact checking political ads you announced recently that the official policy of how do you studying also elusive it's known as the ghost of the mountain for researchers at the Snow Leopard Trust the answer is artificial intelligence by using Microsoft Day I to analyze L. 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Organiz mock interviews to ensure that you're hired within six months taken completely online with full-time INFLEC- study options so you can commit one hundred percent or keep working while you left your skills thankful offers an unmatched ride cared about whether it be democracy civil discourse our national security was no longer coming from this thing abroad that I was working on out of it overseas but in two thousand fifteen she started rethinking her focus it started occurring to me that a bigger threat in my mind to all the things Ashley what next before Ya'll went to work for facebook she'd been deep in the national security world workforce but thankful to dot com slash what next to start building the future you want that's T. H. I n. k. f. U. L. Dot com completing the course and the best part if they don't help you get a job within six months your tuition is fully reimbursed it's time to take your place in the world's next to blame and I said something along the lines of I don't think Mark Zuckerberg set out to destroy democracy and gave US policies decisions conflicts over the last few weeks this question of facebook's role in public discourse is back in the headlines specifically how facebook treats politic having been a CA officer yes having been AC- I after having been a diplomat overseas having worked on the ground with real people affected by the only reason it was happening but did start exploring then started speaking about it and and was asked once on podcast do I think Mark Zuckerberg is and I started thinking it was bread breakdown of civil discourse here at home so start digging in started looking at why that was happening and I'm not saying social media's platform even when it would otherwise breach our normal content rules of course that got major pushback most notably from Elizabeth Warren League clear with you today we do not submit speech by politicians to our independent fact checkers and we generally allow it on the ZAC and former British politician and we're playing this tape because he kicked off this advertising controversy again when he spoke the Atlantic Festival recently and that's why I want to be re gle advertising good afternoon thank you very much for allowing me to spend ten minutes or so with you this afternoon our facebook that's Nick Clegg facebook Brin and Joe Biden and last week Mark Zuckerberg defended the policy in a speech he gave at Georgetown couching it as part of facebook's larger commitment to free speech not together given the sensitivity around political ads. I've considered when we should stop allowing them all together would probably be the easiest thing to do because I assume you're not actually making as much money from political advertising as you are from industries and other stuff however one of the questions they asked me during my interview which I actually heard Mark Zuckerberg talk about during his speech the other day they asked me do you think we should ban political advertising I do fundamentally believe that but we cannot deny that platform has been abused and the little a person so I do actually fundamentally believe that and I heard Mark Zuckerberg say that the other day and I agree with him political ads can be an important part of voice the answer I don't think this is anything intentional but I do question who he has a just decision making table and I suspect it's not people with my background's your background oh I don't think you guys should ban political advertising because I look at this globally and if you ban political advertising you're tilting the scales towards the incumbents who already have access to media access to information especially in countries that have more digital regimes and you'd be squashing the Voice of the smaller party ah they let it happen so I wanted to look at the political discourse all together over the platform from the organic side to the to the especially for local candidates and up and coming challengers advocacy groups in the media might not otherwise cover that way they can get their voice into the debate advertising side and understand what is actually the underlying drivers here do you remember your first day first week Oh yeah including right now is how many people they've hired with backgrounds like mine for example to help them fix these problems I wanted to understand if we're able to use fact checkers to start to actually address this misinformation problem on organic content My first meeting which was zoom meeting because I was a Menlo Park and my boss was not very first meeting with my new boss she let me know that after six months but while she was there she did raise this question about political I did pose that question in what's called an internal tribe at facebook me started putting out all these different ideas which means there was a hunger to have this conversation at least and again it's not about facebook telling me I have to change your title your title is now going to be manager I'll just say one of the things that we hear them tout a lot and they have they've hired some amazing people I had some amazing colleagues there but hiring us and empowering us are two different things and from day one the actually day to sorry it was made crystal clear to me I would never be empowered to do anything because of that yellow facebook anyway anybody in the media's goal is to try to contribute to all of this craziness that's going on but at the end of the day in order for you to actually get about about talking to us I was why I think there's so much noise out there and I am not one of those people who wants to contribute to the noise talk about is what are some of the solutions to help make sure that we have a healthy Internet that we can preserve all of our values which includes freedom of speech would be looking at ads for misinformation yell doesn't give a lot of interviews about her time at facebook I guess I wanted to ask you you hesitant I as ornamentation so I as you know like any place drink the company Kool aid very rarely in very exciting and my second day but reduce the way this is harming our civil discourse in our democracy one thing I'm curious about if you still had your old job I asked the question why can't we do the same thing in ad I didn't actually say we should we should ask why can't we what is the history and a lot of the different peons engineers and it's been broken down into this freedom of speech versus censorship conversation so all of the issues we're talking about whether or not you should let a politician renovate play on facebook and on Youtube and get out there you also have to play the game and have a salacious click bait title and so it is very hard for me to have to decide right who's going to govern the Internet those broader questions but none of the real core issues will be solved before twenty twenty which is in Miami the business model to begin with and it's not about whether or not facebook should take money for political advertising so the key core issue now is what should they do right and Titians what they can and can't say by I do know that there were zero appetite beyond the engineers PM's to actually even consider whether we should a from a business perspective the controversy certainly is not worth the very small part of our business that they make up and I did say you know what I bad whether or not you should have facebook being the ones who are deciding what is truth or not those are really important questions that society should union a business model lose entire metric is about user engagement and keeping your eyes on their screen so that they can hoover up all this data so that they can and I also I mean if you're going to I hope this will make it on I am skeptical of the media not necessarily because I think in collection machine that was used to make ads he argues that facebook's algorithm itself creates an uneven playing field most people didn't think about what we saw from the trump campaign and from twenty sixteen was just incredible use of this technology trust someone else with my narrative and I otherwise I will also get reduced down to just sounding like a disgruntled employee who's complaining when what I really wanted salad to advertisers that is what is rewarding the most salacious content that is what what would you do with it now what would be the things you wanted to worry about in the two thousand twenty election cycle so if I had my old job eating or emotional content can be put right in front of the person most likely to react to it because of what facebook knows about them then they share it and more people ten years I at buzzfeed now times he watched it evolve from a place where we share our personal news photos of our kids to a sophisticated data message that works well On facebook is a message that evokes strong emotional response so that can be coverage in in a way that that was really meaningful you've reported on the trump campaign's facebook ads in in two thousand sixteen what actually be able to work on the things that I care about because if I had my own job listen all of the different reactive things that are doing I mean they're important the fact that they are looking for an authentic pages of marketing that you know all the major brands coke and Pepsi and Procter and gamble us every day and creates anger and fear and anxiety those are also equally strong emotions we talked to allies instead shis content is what's going to grab the most people's attention ooh in other words schering a cat video or you know cute puppies or your your children or a great life moment getting engaged something like that the cultural impact of facebook advertising arm until twenty sixteen until the election until we realized that this was being see it that means a political ad that makes people excited or angry or outraged or scared is more likely to be seen by more people about her experience working in election integrity operations and one thing that she really focused on was saying look talking about but I think that's true I think that's what all of this is about when we look at this political ads is maybe not the right conversation that the the larger conversation is about targeting and the fact that it's that kind of emotional response and people share it comment on it more people see it the flip side of that is divisive content is content enrages that did you learn about how a campaign effectively uses facebook what do they do so well it's very similar to the traditional set the end to constantly be targeting and constantly refining a message to find the message that stuck that fit well what's a message that works well. On facebook platform for viral advertising and we've uploaded our public discourse onto it rewarding the biggest click bait stories that is why I listen I assume this is even happening political advertising why the most elite the message that's more vanilla talking to yell about this reminded me of something Charlie worzel wrote in The New York Times recently Charlie's been reporting on facebook for almost you can find that made all the difference anyway gets podcasts created by Bank of America but would you like the power to do the the very model itself makes the playing field not level I think it's terrifying someone involved deeply in facebook's you charlie and Lizzy c completely different versions of things that seems to dovetail with a column You wrote for The New York Times saying anti Democratic speech is is really it's a terrifying thing to think about had I don't get to see what's happening in the gears of the machine but being the gears of the machine and also say like this platform clearly incentivize efforts in this space feels that way I mean I think that that's really a remarkable thing it's one thing for me that I can feel that way right I only sort of study the town speech and we look at this stuff that's happening on Capitol Hill eat all kinds of dodges the fundamental question which is the thing that facebook is is that they're looking for and I think the behavior all of those things are important and I give them credit for that work but what I would want to do which I wouldn't be able to do if I was still inside the company is talking that's it for today show we reached out to facebook for comment on what y'all had to say they didn't get back to us by showtime at that creates a an emotion and a lot of times the the one that they like to highlight his you know joy or humor or a heart warming so when a facebook ad create is a certain type of behavior it rewards division and that the overall business model the thing that makes facebook facebook is what next TVD is a new show that'll be in your feed every Friday. The show is hosted by me Lizzie O'Leary and produced by Ethan Brooks. We'll talk to you next week.

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Mueller Speaks

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

24:15 min | 1 year ago

Mueller Speaks

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Google veteran Mitch Hoyt founded skinny sticks Maple Syrup and he's showing the small businesses can do big things Mitch started making Maple Syrup from a few trees in Wisconsin Dockyard and now he is connecting with customers worldwide with help from Google tools. Skinny sticks is one of millions of small businesses using Google to grow learn. How Google is helping businesses near state? I Google dot com slash economic impact hi Mary what you've been doing. If you listen to this show you know what we do. After Big Muller News studied. It's been like the best part of my year devoted watching watching Muller testimony. I talked to slates Dalai Lama quick before we're hearing seven you wrote this article. That was like a curtain lifter. You called these hearings a game of chicken between chickens. Why partly because I the image was so hilarious to me that I couldn't couldn't let it go? My sense was that this was going to be a kind of standoff. We're House Democrats and Muller. Were each going to try to play this game of chicken where somebody was going to say okay. I'm taking responsibility Freddie and in a weird way they were both to chicken to do that. What was it a game of chicken between chickens or was it something else I I mean it depends on? I think what you're deliverable is and I've never used that word in a sentence but I'm gonna I'm just whacky after hours of testimony but I think if you expected a a whole lot of hearts and minds to watch this you know sort of summer movie spectacular with the helicopters and the blowing up like no that didn't happen. Did anyone and really think that was going to happen. I don't know but I think in the aggregate the highlights reel at least on the democratic side. They said what they needed to say. They got the big findings of the Muller report out on the record and he didn't fight them about those findings so it's not a summer blockbuster. It's maybe like an art house film. It's catching INFLEC- wait with hats and lots of rain and crying <music> today. The show Dolly is going to translate this art house film for the rest of us. I'm Mary Harass. You are listening to what next stick with us and the following episode is sponsored by Anchor. If you're one of those people who's got an idea for show and wants to get started with your own podcast you might want to learn more about anchor. Anchor is another spotify owned company makes it easy for people to get into podcasting. It's basically an all in one totally free platform where you can record a podcast hosted distributed measure your performance analytics and finds metro sponsors an all works from your web browser or through anchors mobile APP. You can give anchor a try for free at anchor Dot F._M.. Slash slate what next that's anchor dot F._M.. Slash sleep. What next there is this one moment that to me kind of encapsulated the whole thing which is during the first half of the day representative Ted lieu made a really big deal about confronting Robert Muller and trying to pin him down and why he didn't indict Donald Trump and he kept asking him a lot of questions and any he landed did on you know the reason again that you did not indict? Donald trump is because of the oil see opinion this opinion from the Department of Justice that a sitting president cannot be indicted Muller said that is correct and on its face it seems pretty simple but but it became a firestorm right everybody went crazy to Ted Lieu. Just get him to say that that Oh elsie memo was the but for cause of not in dating and it looked like that's what he said and I like to ask you the reason again and you did not indict. Donald trump is because of oil see opinion stating that you can unindicted sitting president correct that is correct the fact that and we should be super clear that the the reason why this got people so like excited because you had pre Harare saying this is a big deal you had neil y'all who was the former solicitor general saying this was a big deal. The reason why because the implication is that if this rule wasn't in place I would have indicted yet so basically I think he can be prosecuted for all of the reasons that I laid out in the report right right and that was I mean I think Muller has been very clear on other occasions that he wasn't willing to go quite that far and so the idea that you know Ted had Lou had extracted from him this admission that had there been no oil see memo or were Donald Trump not the sitting president no doubt in my mind <hes> I would have indicted that seemed like a big big shift in the narrative and so you're quite right. Everybody went bonkers. I'm during the lunch break. I turned onto the cable news and everyone was talking about this like this is the moment and it's going to change everything and he's going to have to come out and you know say something if we're getting it wrong because the way I'm reading it what is that he's basically saying I would indicted the president and then of course we come back after lunch. Robert Muller sits down to testify and one of the first things he does it says oh by the way all that stuff people are talking on Cable News. See I didn't mean to say that right he he even before he took questions he said before we get to questions I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr Lou who said and I quote you didn't charge the president because of the O. L. C. Opinion in quote that is not the correct way to say it as we say in the report as I said at the opening we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime so he has been saying and he said earlier the word choice he used earlier in the hearing was we decided not to decide which is really different from you know but for this we would have decided i. It seems like it's splitting hairs but it means that yes mary the biggest gotcha moment of the entire day didn't happen and for for me. I thought this is the whole thing because we're all trying to have gotcha moment. He doesn't do that right right and you know what was a little bit of a bummer is that in that same back and forth with Lou he was actually like Lou walked him through the elements of obstruction and he absolutely copped to yes this elevator three. You know three elements to obstruction he so I think it's it's one of those frustrating things based on the evidence that we have heard today. I believe reasonable person conclude that at least three crimes of social justice by the president occurred we're going to hear about two additional crimes that would be the witness tampering of Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort. Although the only thing I want to add is that I'm going through the elements with you did not mean does not mean that I subscribe to the what you're trying to prove through those elements time in general is our desire desire to have the great big flaming helicopter crash. We actually missed the French art house movie. which is these are three elements of obstruction? This is an example. Did this happen. Yes correct yes so we literally had like check marks on screen Jack Jack Jack Okay ending. I think that's what we missed for. In the desire to sort of see somebody's ahead you know explode and so you know weird sense. I also think that that very last I back and forth with Adam Schiff at the end of the intelligence committee had that same sort of gentle. I Love Your Art House Film. I'm just GONNA use it forever but that's sort of gentle windswept rainy like could by the lake seaport it had that same feeling of it was very sad and underwhelming but I think it was actually powerful and kind of critical hard from the Russians wanting to help trump win several individuals associated with the trump campaign. We're also trying to make money during the campaign in transition is that correct is true or Manafort was trying to make money or achieve debt forgiveness from Russian oligarch. Generally that is accurate Michael Flynn was trying to make money from Turkey through Donald Trump was trying to make millions a real estate deal in Moscow to the extent. You're talking about the hotel Moscow. Yes yes when your investigation looked into these matters. Numerous trump associates lied to your team the grand jury and to Congress number of persons that we interviewed in our investigation it turns out did lie doesn't have to be a crime and to be bad like what schiff is to saying. This is just saddened sad and sick that we excuse anything but that that was really like like role credits man so the first hearing was all about obstruction of justice. The Judiciary Judiciary Committee is this the committee that would start impeachment hearing so led by Jerry Nadler and what's interesting to me going into this is that there's some evidence that Jerry Nadler has a very different opinion about impeachment and its role then then for instance Nancy Pelosi and so that's stakes going in Jerry Nadler wants fireworks Jerry Nadler wants to he's going in with something to prove and he started out and for me. I was like this is like the karate kid like he started out and he was like really boxing muller into a corner you asking him question after question and I was like Oh this is interesting. This could go somewhere rector. Muller President is repeatedly claimed that your report found there was no obstruction and that it completely and totally exonerated him but that is not what you report said. Is it correct it is not what the report said but over the course of the hearing it felt like it fell into this kind of familiar earlier pattern of Democrats trying to make a case and Republicans grandstanding a little bit but I wonder. I wonder how you saw it. I think a couple of things I actually thought I thought Nadler was amazing using I thought his <hes> opening colloquy was incredible and that's where we got those admissions those initial blockbuster you know I never said no collusion. I never said he was a completely exonerated. Report did not include he did not commit obstruction of justice is accurate that is correct and what about those were really crucial moments for all the reasons you just said I think a little bit of what happened is the Democrats have this plan going in and I think they were hoping that Muller was just going to read chunks of the report into the record and then you know you're where he literally would not do client he'd be like no you read it and so I think there was this weird they have thought at minimum. If we can't get fireworks at least we will have you know for the purposes of late night television like hours of him reading into the record the thing that people didn't bother with audio book and that didn't happen and so then they were very. Slow to pivot into realize there's no point in saying. Can you read page eighty seven footnote three that seemed to take awhile for them to cotton on that that strategy was gonNA fail and so I do think you did get this sense of pulling teeth right one person I then after another trying to get him to either re directly from the report or to amplify something that he'd written in the report and every single time he was just like us outside of my purview not going to answer drink more wide the president of the United States what you fired. I can't answer that question well on P._J.. A friend of mine who does nothing but take depositions made the point that if you are taking an all day deposition there's not not going to be an Aha moment. There's just as there's too much time to fill. Most of your questions are going to just be mind-numbingly. Dull process get it on the record. Get it on the record and so if you're used to that this wasn't disappointing I think if you wanted the Michael Cohen hearing with like the craziness and all the accusations in the shouting this wasn't that yeah I mean it's interesting to have you. Freeze it like that because it's like I feel like we keep looking looking for what it's going to be and we went into getting. Oh maybe it'll be the audiobook version but it wasn't that either was really much more like a deposition like illegal very legalistic hearing <hes> the other thing we have to talk about is Muller's appearance sense because he wasn't saying a lot and he came across as old yeah. I think that was the surprise again for all the people who'd been lighting candles and doing the advent calendar Linder like this was. This was a pretty sobering performance. Certainly he was having trouble hearing yeah. He seemed like he was hard of hearing we had folks telling us that it was hard to hear generally in the room but he was clearly struggling <hes> to here and and he was struggling to remember. I think that he made it plane that you know he had not committed four hundred forty pages to memory and that there were things that he didn't have perfect command of and so I do think that he did come across already. You know the trump campaign is fundraising on you know he's doddering old man and the deep state just you know used him to their own. Nefarious ends and so that will be one of the stories that's told there's no question that he was not as commanding as we've seen you know and when he used to testify in prior years and he was much more in-command effects in much more assertive and much more nimble but I think that despite all that there is a part of this that is also just this is the good soldier sure who was scrupulously careful that he wasn't going to say anything wrong and he was not by the way going to be used by either sides to score points. I think the best evidence I have of that. Is that the several times where he was asked directly about the thing that's breaking his heart. which is Russia stolen election it? He said it's happening now. It's going to happen again. They're going to do it again in your investigation Ju- think that this was a single attempt by the Russians to get involved in our election action with you. Find evidence suggests trying to do this again. Single attempt to they're doing it as we sit here and they expected to it <hes> during the next campaign and those are the moments that he comes to life right. That's the thing he wants to bring to life is that I have a whole volume that you all seem to have ignored while you're trying to score points off each other about whose fault it is. Those were the moments where I thought if you get him on something that he deeply cares about that isn't just politics said is in fact national security. He kind of was a different person lunchtime. Everyone takes a break and then we come back back and we have to and this time it's the House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff and their focus is supposed to be the first part of the Mullahs report. The idea is to focus on Russia and how Russia interfered in the election and again it starts. I think very strongly where you have Adam Schiff kind of boxing muller into a corner. Is this a witch hunt your investigation. No it's not a witch hunt. It's really the most engaged aged. I think we'd seen Muller the whole day at that point. I think if probably said this even on this show four times but it's just so vital to remember how this started this started as this counterintelligence investigation that was his original charge. The obstruction stuff comes about because you know presumably trump and his confederates are trying to block that inquiry but this is you know and this is why Adam Schiff has been saying from the beginning winning this is about you know national security. Are we compromised. This is about free and fair elections. This is not just tit for tat. You know who is bad who is lying and so that's I think in a sense not only does he have a better rapport. We're with shift because this is kind of what the guts of the thing was for him as I said I think the guts of him is that point he kept making which his I've never seen in all my career more serious violation of National Security Donald Trump called your investigation. A witch hunt that was also false was not like to thank so yes well. Your investigation is not a witch hunt as it is not a witch when the president said the Russian interference was a hoax that was false wasn't it. You know whole day where nobody's kind of dancing together like one person is Mumbo and one person is like Lombardo and they never can like sync up and those are the moments I think with shift where you feel <hes>. There's this very strong. Report where they're kind of parrying each other and almost finishing each other's sentences that it becomes clear this is the heart of the thing that is killing him is that this happened. Nobody Dispute Devin nunes can scream till the cows come home him about like the deep state and about these like steele dossier things it does not change the fact in no one disputes the fact Russia interfered with the election and so I think in a sense the second hearing is stronger her because Muller's first of all more confident on the ground that he's on <hes> but I think that the answer to it that the Republicans have which is just more screaming about the deep state doesn't mollify anybody it doesn't solve the problem and it's interesting to me because shift really did tied together he was saying here's what happened with Russia and here's why it mattered that the president and his crew were involved and it was done for the money you know that was the thing that he kept coming back. Coming back to is this wasn't done because of some you know lofty. It's just money you know. The Democrats were trying to get Robert Muller to reiterate his findings. Were the Republicans questioning anything he found well. No that was the interesting thing I mean what what I heard over and over again. was them questioning things. He didn't find fine. There is collusion in plain sight collusion between Russia and the Democratic Party. The Democrats colluded with Russian sources to develop the steele dossier and Russian lawyer Natalia vessel sky colluded with a dossiers as key architects fusion. G._P._S. had Glenn Simpson to me what was so weird. Is that what the Republicans were super focused on and I think it's integral to the whole deep. State story is why didn't you do you the seeing that if you had done it I could prove that you were part of this like elaborate conspiracy that Hillary Clinton triggered to lake spy quote unquote on Donald Trump and so I think it was a very weird like those is questions if you live in that world like if you start from the predic- it that all of those deep state stories are true then all of their questions makes perfect sense right and so to all their conclusions which is of course Donald Trump was mad at this entire hoax and was trying to fire everybody that was rational but if you don't live in that world then you're seeing them essentially constructive theory of the case that is based on stuff that didn't happen and so you're quite right. There wasn't a lot of questioning about the actual findings it was just the the sort of substructure under the findings is illegitimate and if you only knew and believe what devin nunes new and believe you would have had a different investigation and by the way it would've ended with Hillary Clinton in jail. Let's just agree. I think that was that was what I heard from the Republicans not so much on the merits but just an attempt to sort of nitpick the process the way this came about or the things that he didn't do or the witness he didn't question or the part of the you know questioning that didn't make it into the report an attempt to sort of see this idea that there's this whole other story. He wasn't telling I watch these hearings and I felt like they were so hard to follow. They were deep in it and doing important work as you said almost like a deposition getting into the Nitty Gritty Getting Robert Muller on on the record saying really important stuff but it didn't work as a narrative and it worried me and it worried me because that put so much pressure on people like you and me and I flipped on the cables midway through an instantly people were talking about Robert Muller's performance and this is a disaster. This is a horrible thing and I thought hold up Muller was being Muller Muller was mollering. We knew this so that means now he's passing us the baton not to freak out and report our emotions but report what he actually said and I guess afterwards I was so frustrated with the coverage with my fellow journalists and how they responded instantly that well this won't move the needle and I thought like well hold on this just happened. We have a job here. I think that what's hard right now is that you're looking at a day in which in your view in my view you know the the special counsel chest said in effect all three elements of obstruction where their time after time after time and what Fox News is reporting is that crazy old man over-mastered by deep state brings a witch hunt and it's finally over over so the media's you know you're right. It's part of the solution. It's also part of the problem and that's new that is new dial of thank you so much for joining joining me. Thank you for having me dial quake reports on the courts and hosts amicus podcast here at slate all right. That's the show if you're hungry for more muller but she wants the more comedic highlights from yesterday's. Today's testimony head on over the gist that is where Mike pesca is breaking it all down just like we do every weekday. This show is produced by Mary Wilson Jason Leone and Ethan Brooks and I'm Mary Harris. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Jack Thrills Her! It's Jack Thriller, Y'all

Rantin' and Ravin'

44:39 min | 9 months ago

Jack Thrills Her! It's Jack Thriller, Y'all

"The. Hawk will. Be. y'All. Welcome to rant and rave in with Yemeni game friends. We're going to get right into it today. My guess is Jacks Thriller how. Are you I'm static could be on your show. Thank you so much for inviting me well, I'm glad you will come and do my show like we were just talking before. We started record and I said you walking around this big as place and I'm trying to figure out you know what island yuan and you say when you. In Harlem Harlem. Hey y'all got a fireplace to in my bedroom. That's crazy I don't. Know listen you. All you need is a woman that come up in there and put a couple of. Israel. Oh. Oh! No I have move. You've made I'm looking at Harlem, but we living in two different lifestyles because. My apartment I had to pay my apartment just to make it look jazzy doormen again go by my neighbors. I don't know what AB and half the time I'm rationing surviving where I live. Is episode a good time? Hey usually see the last place. Ask Eighty light bill that a semi and Hakeem heads say it will. Be Good combination. It was that no elevator for slow that. That's crazy. How long have you been because you're not originally from New York right now? You're from Atlanta. How long have you been in New York? But ten years now, okay to years and. We'll have you lived while you because like I? It took me I've been in New York for twenty one years now. and. I moved. I was always in Manhattan for the most part what took me? To ten years about ten years ago, I moved to Harlem and I'm in love with how wanted to take you to get the Harlem in and layer your roots down here. May I moved to Harlem A. When I got here, I was staying with my uncle. He had apartment on wall. Street. Wing seventh and days, and he gave me four months to get know six months to get my shit together and whatnot because I was I was living in Atlanta and I had peaked on everything that I do as a comic. And I was watching Tavist, molly, my uncle, my other uncle in Atlanta and Fifty cents was owned and he was talking about. He was looking for Comedians, writers and directors because he just started a new company Cheetahs. I was like you need to go up to New York's. Fifty and A! You know people always suggest some bushes you should do. Found so far fetched, and it did, but the and I had nothing else going on. While was uptown comedy club every every day right on. at a time a Pat. Brown was there to and she was. On. Am I never Fran. Pat Row I know. We have been talking about moving to New York forever. Wow, okay well. Yeah! And I think I had A. took a trip up to new. York to be assistant director on a lots video and a A call for something like that. Or I know how to do everything wow! As a comic I wanted to be in I wanNA, do TV shit now. I was taking acting classes on a of amid actors. Studio were Dwayne. Robert towns he, doesn't he he he came through. It's classes a lot to. Pat Brown did a whole bunch of overdose Robertson, so she could you know back this up in the test to it and? In the process of doing that these always creature about shooting your own stuff and being independent right. Yes, oh I. Oh, I was with a click of comedians. Name Gabriel Heart gave heart a famous music video director. Now he was for migos. Yeah and we. I assistant director on my president is which yeezy announce Oh wow okay I have later, I. Didn't, but it's like you know those very ambitious things. But how how does somebody doesn't? Like some people don't just wake up and go, I can direct some people even understand you. Know any of that stuff. How did you where did that? Come from with you? That's Edit time in Atlanta. A lot of comedians was doing the music videos to music videos and trying to be that comedian indicated music videos. And in the process of doing that I hate around shouted out a little little do go north hosted at the time, and they was in all the videos and shit and I had a way to this video. Shoot calls. Move bits get. We're ludicrous. I I was very outrageous in the video I had on a blonde curly. We exist I had on a chain shirt. NOSER UNDERSHIRTS, yeah! I was booked fucking while anyway. I had. For you to dress like that like no. No. Understand that so I could get in right, and they put right in front like I knew it was going to do. And I had got sold so living I had in both this girl in the head of I no I did not reclaim outs and it was. Hey, that was great. We won't be needing you for the rest of the shoe. Guy. The whole town I don't see the girl on the flow now. Ask. Me To shoot when going on. Back then 'cause you. Know Person, but they keep up a ludicrous in an juggled salutes video shoots, and I started showing up the more video shoots and stuff in some. I couldn't get in and what I would do is I. would still a gap in and helping them out with stuff behind the scenes to? Learn how to do this. Shit, right at my boy gayborhood. He same thing with him. We would just comedians by night trying to get on stuff in the daytime. We were shoot our own skits and we knew what we wanted how we found out we look. online of how to light shit. And how does it up? Smack it down. What kind of what we needed. And, we became the skit. Guys in Atlanta. And so if they wanted skits, become, get us become. Shoot them. So is this comedian name Rolling Powell? He was he had just gotTa deal with Mercury Entertainment and He. He wanted us to shoot. His gets warm. They call them La Duval now. and. Even be, Kodak Funny I was in I, was in it Alam. I helped direct hit the right and skits all that shit and I think was a young cheesy young. Jesus has seen a video that we. Do our own on video, and he the shoot a couple of videos for his mixed tape and everything, and then Ti. Then it's the start growing and we started building catalogs. And you know we're shoot music videos in the daytime events doing standup at night night and Because you know. From what you talked about you had a lot of opportunity. Inexperience with guys who are already on like young g and TI. Do you think that that's a credit? Like sometimes? When people are trying to get into other aspects, you can't get next to like Britney Spears, or and those guys on that level of popularity. You can't into a Britney Spears or Maybe beyond say but. Yet. Let me, let me say this. We had upper hand because we wear the comedy clubs, so these people come to the comedy club. Why don't we all so you finally? That's what you're doing on the side you. Did it again. So, we were already we had already came through the back door right? Yeah, so they know us and I just feel like from like. When you do more mainstream room while you may have people have. Liberty that stop by not really. How Lane with you. It just seemed like you guys had a at hasn't had an ability to just have. These guys Kinda shoot rat with you and talk you. Know that there were other things that you guys could do other than just doing standup. What let me ask you this with people favorite subject. Themselves Oh, yes. Yes. What do you need? And how can I help you get what you need, so it'll help me get what I need Ryan, are you? You have to put yourself second. Could them first and then everything else? It works itself out, and so it's a part of paying dues. You get your own the backing Ryan. Back in take, it takes a long time. So! You have to work until it words I. Mean None of this stuff that I'm telling you is overnight store. Magin. Yeah, it was A. Lot of hard work hang blitz waited hungry nights and emotion sleeping in 'cause and. You know and I had to do that after I. Got Home Frank? was. It was a lot of lessons that I had the tape for. A got a little, too comfortable had to start over. or Comfortable but distracted. Right out house rounds, yeah! Dumb Shit like that all were drinking and so things. Can you in some way you don't really WanNa, go, you can get quite. I think that's important to people understand that just because you get to a certain level or you get on, it doesn't mean you can't lose things or as things look as easy as they appear to be. Some people think Oh, he's want easy street now because he still takes a lot of work and you gotTa Keep Your Position Yeah. Yeah most definitely it it. It never stops. You know once you start getting. Oh, that's what actually the whole at work starts. Noted was it ain't really knows all about what you won't do. What is on? For. Which you light? You degenerate netflixing. I'm still trying to get that fleet that Shit I'm like Oh. I WanNa take your brain right. Yeah, yeah, I mean I. Think it's I mean it's really intriguing to me because it has been part of. The collective of what I've been talking about Anna I was on I. I've been on a couple of different podcasts shows comic. That would have never interacted with just because they keep a soda separated between urban and mainstream which I've been trying to. I've never liked the idea of that I never liked the idea of You know I've always hit up quote. Unquote Hood Rooms on I. Don't think they any different than any. I mean the crowd obviously can be very different. In because they they not with the Shenanigans yet. Come on now. Definitely, let's go you know. I understand that aspect of it but I think the content and the and the type of comedy me. Give it across can translate to any audience. So hate when they keep a separate and there's a lot of things that I have done, but I. Have you know at some of the guys who have have built their own way and having got like I've done a lot of traditional things, but in the day your apartment looked better than mine. You understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying I don. Like, let's compare what we have. What we had don't have but I think sometimes people look at. A resume a resume looks like versus the ultimate thing for me of success is owning myself in my own opportunities and having access to speak to my fan base. My people the way that I want and I think. Utilize that and I think a lot of guys who they can stay sort of like. Comics and they're like well, I don't want to do this. I don't want to go this route. It's sort of like a pedigree kind of thing and I. Don't want to be here. And then I'm looking at brothers and sisters and I'm like Oh well. They really made this instagram thing happen, or they really May. Urban comedy happened, or they really made her came out and spoke with them, and and fuck with them, and they got a. they got more that they can ask for. Cash shakes than a lot of us who have gone to the quote. Unquote mainstream route still can't sell out tickets. For people to put us on and give us opportunities. So, what are you have this to speak on that? There's no blueprint if you just gotTa keep on trying things and trying things. You of one thing that I think is amazing. That you do is your engagement which our audience, and what they? You Know Your Audience Yeah Equal to. A get closely where as me. I don't do a whole bunch of different things and I'm trying to be praying for patients every day. Talk to these people. You know let them say what they want to say to me. Yeah and I. Think as a comic, you know. In a certain degree, it's a lot of us are introverts, or you can just kind of make you recuse. Yeah, I am. I've gotten to this well. I just don't be one of the be Bob. And for me to be on, and I'm trying to go find some money yet. Not get lost in there and like. I hadn't before February. Same my mom it seven years and I said He. Realize right. She? Combined. I'm not I've never been the most family oriented guy. And when I tried to do that, I got married in seventeen and abortion, seventeen and whatnot. got married at seventeen and divorced seventeen or no. What happened was your. Mom at the wedding telling you don't fuck. What are feels words. Ellsworth we. Can you know? I was looking for happiness outside, but you gotta find that sheet you. Can you say that again? That's what people I mean. I've learnt that lesson so much. If you don't have happiness inside, you know outside source. Is You happiness? And so yet, we it was a situation where I. I I hadn't got with somebody that wanted to be Jack Thriller. and. That's not who I am at. Right right and people don't understand about. It's like we can be all of that, but when we come home, we just WANNA be chill. You don't WanNa. Be on all the time. I'm not going out. I cook. He'd home, saying I don't Oh. I'm not going to or anything like that. You know it. You Latin Latin when you do see me doing that. Instagram debt was because I was working right. Yeah, get! Yeah, it's not it's not real. It's not like people like even when I'm dating today and whatnot, women come away or whatnot if I'm hanging around my home bullets. With his weight. Dayton asking. This will come along with the game especially when when when you're doing it like the way I'm doing it. Oakland. Women and all this other stuff and you know. Wrap up coaches. They automatically assume that that's what's going on. As, long as You compression because like yesterday. It's so funny because every now and then I'm on your and I'm not people stories like that and stories, and you know what we gotta talk. We talk about the push. Push the pizza and all that stuff. Obviously, but I'm I'm looking I'm going okay. I see some people with this all of a sudden. I, just see this woman with the most perfect as the most round. Ask them the thinnest waves, and she's just kind of like isolating her, but and I'm like okay. You know you get people a well. Yeah. You have a nice. How much of that do you think you'll call and I see a lot of sexy women on your page and I you know I. Love Watching Women Be Sexy I love anybody who's into body. I'm not against working. You know you want do all that Shit. Go do it and let me see to. That do you think is you really want to share that? How much do you think you want some of Your Fan Base? Some of the guys that are watching I gotTA. Keep them in. Tank give them a little something a hundred percent. It's all it's all about them, but in the way out on do. Is All about them because at the end of the day. This is what I found out to Yemeni A. Win It's good. It's good. You know as far as your you you being successful inside of the business and stuff and. I. When it's bad. It really you can get really bad, so I'm talking about yeah. The financial part of it, so I'm a I'm about making money, but not like doing anything for money, but I know what you want to see and I'm going to. Do what you? I'M GONNA. I'm going to paint the picture for you with whatever product that I'm selling from my point of view in my. Through my comedy, testimony and everything the week. and. They can be a little ranchi. Sometimes, it'd be some some tasteful you see in my. My story's a like. You say that it's. It's vast of broad spectrum of entertainment. Civil Rights Shit going on and. You see some animals of cute little. Bunnies some sheets. Just thinks that I like and I'm you'RE GONNA? See my taxes. I'm a big Michael J. I noticed that. Is that part of with relocating from with you? Where Canes How did you get it like when you first started doing comedy? First of all you? You aren't going by Jack Thrill. No. How's? Your talk to me. Come on. Honey. Though is a stage name. Your Mama, Gave you that you know some black gave. Little Honey Bun, you probably wear corduroy pants and all kinds of sittings gear. I asked pretty cute clothes. but A. Singer Entertainer, actually what okay? He didn't call me that he don't notice. And he doesn't okay I'm. I've only talked to say I. Don't Event Center once. What's? Left of Palooza longtime ago either Nice Guy met him a couple of times. He was very nice to me. Yeah, he was, he was super. He says some crazy about me and I had told his job. He said Dell is funny as club, but it won't work. For You Indeed it on stage and lovable losers and. And it ain't joke. A you year. He used to have this joe where he said it was due came up to me, and his name was delicious. I'M NOT GONNA call. As, bad, listen and that he helped me. Laugh but days about. For days and I said you know if it was doing comedy and what I need to get a name like delicious. Somebody's GONNA, make. This lab we lose the drop. Win Lose the droughts. Atlanta is this thing called a chat line, and its own? It's like being at room owner. Seventeen years old exam. I'm thirty eight now like twenty eight twenty one years ago. Share so anywhere of I'm a chat line and I it's like five or six people in the room on the phone at the same time and his. As it had my name. Is Anybody Hoping? Everybody. Land Hey My name is handlebar. I hope you want my dad. And everybody would laugh and I went to another room. To Room Again Hamilton anybody opening moment i. So everytime I've thought about it just made me laugh, and all that Jesse right there honeymoon. I'm I'm I`Ma. Put on it, so it sound masculine year at it ain't date if he got his honey buttons. Okay Brown used to hate that Shit. Rally hate that she hated. Everybody hated. No nobody wanted. Nobody was cool with hundred projects. The older Gangsta rap another that. What Almost start a fight introducing myself ran. My name is to. Make a way, but then when you get to know me and see how cool I am. Ended up calling me honey. And like people used to get on the ball all the time because he had a best friend named honey buns because you know after we did all of our, we had a DVD for men him and become really good friends, I moved in with him, and Shit became opening neck of bodyguard personal assistant. Pay My dues I- was all about paying dues I just wanted to get it i. want work I want Liar. You know what I'm saying, so that's out of honey bun. Thing about Senator Entertaining Delicious Joe. How long into comedy did you change your name? Honey buns just before I moved to New York. I You had to drop it. How long have you keep honey buns while he was in New York. I've never had it in New York. So you drop the. How long were you honey buns like a year? You know I will hunt on from. From Seventeen to twenty seven, I moved up here when I was twenty seven. What. Ten years, you rocks so at seventeen. You said you you. You weren't doing comedy. You already doing comedy when you were I. I started doing. so that's definitely a seventeen year old move. Yes, yeah, and at what point? You're maturation, did you? Still I'm still racking with honey buns. 'cause twenty seven at some point, somebody decide no that that's what happened at twenty seven. That's one on I was just about to move to New York I. I had A. I came up here in video with Joe in on lots and stuff with my man gay. And Get home and I after I. Was Giving up, apart. Because I I was. In New York on his trip. And I call Rob Stapleton. Yes, Bob. Call! He said it was hundred bucks. I say I'm I'm in New York and I WANNA go up, I WANNA see if I'm funny here. I need to know if I'M GONNA. Funny because it's making a New York. You can make it anywhere. And he said I gotTA show tonight. DUGOUT and What the fuck that is a! Becky stadium in big Yankee, stadium and To a warm-up show before that Spot called MOCHA's with pokey. And so I went. Back The. MOCHA's and honey buns. Talk after this day to day, he talks about A. Boy a minute he may be. When I came back I was Jack Releasing nigger. No. Honey buns for album for me all out. And invest a he, he introduced me for Lewinsky called behind abundant fart for me, and everybody does to that no was that my name used to be funny, but because it's such a polar opposite of what's going on right now. Right as Jack through. You know what I'm saying people think of. This listen and listen I'll decide people today. they see me as this gangsta hardcore porn US comedian. And whatnot that's-that's not high on my. McCabe I'm really Nice Conservative Guy The just want down. As a a I had changed my name of in two thousand into Oh this Get back from. I get back from New, York, and Whitland Duval, and we the grand hustle studios, and with ti at TI getting ready to go to jail for the first time. And a day was picking on him inside the studio about being be having a best friend named honey, Bunny Shit, and I might lobby, and I'm. I'm not aware none of this shit, and they grow room, and it really is what rolling. Out about what you mean when he come. and. He said. What's your real name chances? Getting my reader, but that's what I said. When girls, where would they? Girls I will tell him my name, my name CIANCI like INFLEC- street when. I literally. CanNot. Are Browns I was commits you. Need a name. Will you have more names an alias? To Germany I. Never Been Afraid to reinvent myself right I love that about you actually. Yeah, you go. I'll play up I. play the game. However, chips may fall. To any any return, things 'cause which. Is A. There's a difference between what you do, which is reinventing right and reinvention comes. With maturation also right so as we you know, which is why you know it's. Rarities when you have artists like Michael Jackson artists like beyond say, who started very very young, and they're able to take their audiences with them. They said Madonna was able to the same thing, because they are constantly reinventing themselves by keeping a hold of their true essence, but I just WanNa, make sure we have clarity because some niggers just be switching shit up just to be You've got to be a purpose by the moves and adjustments that she make. Exactly Yamanaka you are. You're such a intelligent woman intelligence wait. You. You got it. Whatever idiots. That's what you got. Yeah so when I has what they and we changed my name that night in the studio and it's actually online on you too okay. Yeah, you can see this. I I'm seeing your clip of it asked of. You I know if you can play it in the background or some shit like that and house yet. We'll see what we can do with see kind of magic, you know. We can make. yet it's A. it's everything that I've done nine and whatnot It was I I saw this particular moment at when all the cameras the enroll. Okay, this time oppose the change. Right here and so. Like like positive care being because he got one like Jack Sparrow, and as I said now that's that's. I like the Jackpot, but despair Odessa a character. You what? I'm big Fan I'm How about Jack Rillo? And yet Jack, you know what and then I'm GonNa. Throw young in there, too. You know because I'm a big Fan. Jack up that. Watch you, that's it. I'm be jet Willis. So in two thousand, nine, a March I became young Jack Load and it hit. So I moved up here. August six of two thousand nine a defined fifty. And My, Six months the make whatever dream trying to happen so Family on time. Limits I. Got To ask. You gotTA. Be You. Know what I noticed about Nick New, York. The whether it's a guy or a daughter signed man. They don't have a cutoff point of when somebody gotta get the House that's me I. dated a lot of women that still stay with their mom or sister or somebody. That's related to them, and you know what I'm saying like look. Kick out like this. Also. Just so everybody remembers it knows Diana. Ross was already too old. Be Playing Dorothy. She stole at roles from seventy meals. Okay, who was a teenager? Data. Ross was already on menopause with two kids having an affair with Berry Gordy when she decided she was going to play a fourteen year old girl in ways. Time to get the fuck out the house either way go. As you had to go all the way to ours to do it learn. UNTO, fucking over his. You got you gotTA. You gotta put your family on the time live. Show they see it and that's what you just. Don't mean. Shit like me and my brother. We just bought my Momma Carter ship and whatnot now. We're GONNA. Try to get her house in, Atlanta. I feel like I'm too late. I feel horrible about it to Yemeni. Never give their parents anything. Even have the opportunity so I. Never think it's you know. I had a conversation earlier today with my father. My father's in his six in. Listening to late, but some of the stuff you're trying to accomplish, so I think while we are still breathing, and we have life and bodies. We have opportunity to continue to grow and do things and I know. Your Mama's happy just had there, and yes, she is. A, hold hold on just a second making this know. We have. You know lights in an instagram and things like that. Put US on unnatural time. Line it. Puts us a against people that are in our lives that we see we see them doing things in you know we go. Aren't we doing those things and you have to take a step back I? Just took a took three days off from instagram thought it. I really needed it. I said. All my friends are having babies. They're all over instagram. They're all getting married I was like I. Just I can't see that for a while I'm in quarantine. A just broke up with my. You know my boyfriend and. WanNa be seeing that while I'm in quarantine and feeling. Sorry for myself. I needed three days to adjust and I came better. I think people need to take instagram breaks for their own sanity. Most definitely agree. And reject. because. that. was. Got To do a July. We'll let me you know. You you lean in his bed now and food and stuff and we're looking at you leaning over this bed. Mogi there. That Wendy's on my. You you'RE GONNA be bad for my system. You mean bad from. Down Did. You can't get Wendy's if you don't get frosty. I didn't get a frosty. I didn't get I didn't get a frost. Wannabe. Be added having my house tagging. When FROSTIES get out of control sometime time. They said he sometimes. They use some type of glass fibers. I don't know. And the frosty, but. While we're while you're. You're eating now, but I won't know. I can I I can multitask Jan. Good I wanNA know who who was who was young Jack. Young honey buns, young chauncey like. Were you a precocious kid? Like? How did you get into like you know? When I look back at my life, I'm like I understand. Why became a comedian? Was a shock to me all the things I was a kid kind of lead up to a life. who were you as a kid? What were you like? Well. I was always watching TV. Should I I was I would go come on our watch TV every every. Every Sitcom that ever came on I can tell you about it documentaries and Video, so I'll let you my life, yeah. I was I was quiet, but I was very outgoing at school like the personnel was at home. Win The prison that I was at school that was. On. Always had I was born blind in my left APP, so he has become your body and. Give them the same energy that they will give me like if you said something about me I was gonNA. Say some even more creative about you. A education rank right right right and it was finding, and my teachers used to always say that I was going to be a comedian, but I didn't believe that 'cause. I watch comedy shows and stuff and UC's comics on stage or long periods of time like a fifteen minutes and thirty minutes, or are you in class? You uninspired? You make an outburst. I really the same thing. Would you agree? Absolutely I mean you know I was long winded as a kid I? Would I put on? I talked to myself years I didn't I didn't have any so I had imaginary friends probably. Needed to. Did you go did? Say! I say. Did you win student body and all that? was. Out of, student body President I was. Hold on just a second Yemeni. Magic Uzi. and. They're trying to give me the hill. Take the Jacuzzi. Let. Wasn't name. Are you an fucking hall of a Jacuzzi. What we living in two different Holum's allies. Would you. gumming eager when you can get off we. Zoom come on over. Nineteen S. Help? Nodding hanging around and doing. You play tomorrow to to. Let down when he when are you coming back Monday you going to say I was GonNa say when you come back I'll come over. But I I mean you need two weeks. You GotTa Quarantine. On this. I, we get. Face time because I ever you know I, try to Take you over there now, but it seemed like we lose connection. I think my my own in gets week. It might. Probably picking up on on. The phone, but listen this I actually like. We need to definitely do a part to. There was so many things that we were getting into I. Know once once meals calm. You got your crew these that got to be. You know. Ardeshir. Raised to someone. And you get party on, what is what do you like? Would you like to leave you see? I knew when I was I said. This is GONNA be. Really Fun. This summer. I know, but it's hard to. It's hard to really like interview you because it's. We keep dipping into like a conversation which is great. But I want people to really late. Now all the things I've seen interviews with you and I know when people you know a lot of times like it's comics or anything entertainment where people have a certain idea who you are they are to. You liked that idea of what you are instead of really getting to know who you are as a person because I think, people can be just as interesting as a person as they are. IS THEY'RE CHARACTER? So it was my to really get to know who you were, so everyone else could really understand like behind the magic of how people become who they are as performers Omar. Blessing. Nobody This is great on. Let me look at me. Oh. Okay, read us. It I wasn't gonNA cry today. Know that was too much you. bobble waters right there. That was amazing. Though as well I just had a breakthrough. Everybody. Take Shell right to own. Yes. Fix My life. Yemeni show my personality. Who I am. Man. What is something that you would like to leave with? Anybody that's watching 'cause. You talked a lot about really the story behind you is just being a go getter, really having people behind you and your family who are keeping you on task. Telling you that you can do things having the confidence to believe that you can do something six months. You know letting you know that. Oh, his got fifty cents. He looking for this. You know I think people take for granted that not everybody family does that, not everybody has that type of situation you know migrant me, not a unique right Oprah and see. The Oprah show until Oprah. You Black, young black girl! She loved that you. Couldn't you tell your grandmother? And I was like my grandmother so crazy. 'cause open, read-end Shit, first of all was going to be like seventeen won't get to that letter before she touch it, and they gonna put it in the trash before she touch. So, what does the confidence that my grandmother had think, and why and I just reach out to Okra. WHO and she? No, you GONNA make it. If you know you got that, Shit, yes. But. She's waiting on you. You find that you got shit. Matabeleland Sue. The everybody say you can do as gotta, but my grandma's also the same woman who told me I need to see evacuation on forensic files or the first forty eight, and I said well. You know that you gotTa die on that show so. What what word would message? Would you leave with people? That is the tournament of your life that you have used to propel you to success and further success, if simple man whatever you wanna do in life, mango, dude, shit, because it ain't saying video games, you don't get no extra men, yeah. You you You, only live once, yeah! Leave ones, and so you whatever you want. I'm on the phone I'll be out in the fact that. Yes! USO adorable. It's ridiculous. You need to have your own show with cameras around you twenty four hours a day. Trying to be like that, that's what that's. What I'm going to La about tomorrow. Okay, all right, let's me. I. Sit! Yes I'm. I'm really excited about it. Yeah above. Hussein is you don't you have to take advantage of your life right now? Because you don't want to be on your deathbed and say I played it way too safe. Yeah, I'll tell you. Say and you didn't do what you were supposed to be doing. You know people that. Think. They have problems that you really don't if he didn't wake up this morning. People that are in jail right now doing life that they wish they had your problems. They wish they could get up and fucked like you again, yeah! Amen Yeah that's. Real so I said. Hey, man! If you're going through hell, keep on going until you get out. A man take it out, go. Lose, if you every day that you wake up, is another chance to do better s because somebody wishing they had joe problems and shit round with you. Accept you thinking right now and. You. Get. You gotta see it though you gotta really believe it and nobody came on it for you. You know ambition is not a top things is not a learned behavior. You know you just gotTa have that Shit. You know what I'm saying. If you don't help nobody else life, you don't deserve so figure out how Yoshi can help else you re be residual and whatnot and a the same time. take care of yourself. Take care of yourself and make sure you got something to pass on somebody to make these ships go a little bit easier. Man, yeah well I'm telling you right now. I have done some really incredible interviews with some one on ones over the last since the start of the year was sort of just been changing a four man of Ratna Arabian. And Lot less ranting and more getting to understand and rave on people that are in my life. That I know so I really appreciate you coming on the show and taking the time out of your busy Jacuzzi schedule. Right now man. I'm almost, they said. We're GONNA be the last night, but yeah, it is what it is. And clorox in there for me, because if I put my toe in the Ad Kobe nineteen I know that's right we got you. We don't disinfect that. Yeah thank you so much. I really appreciate you. I'll talk to you soon. Hey. Thank you for having me and I love Y'all. Thank you, you amaze. By? This has been rettendon raven with. Meka.

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 Is the American Dream a myth?

The Alien Chronicles

40:44 min | 2 years ago

Is the American Dream a myth?

"I am in some people's eyes other, but I think just as a chore like personality traits. I wouldn't say that, that ever made me feel like I was actually less than them or that I was vulnerable in some way. That's just not the way that I personally am wired to approach the world. Hello and welcome to the alien chronicles. I'm your worst side. The Han today's guest is Jae Chang. She is the author of vans versus the world. The book has been named a New York Times edit is Joyce as well as best book of the year by Amazon BuzzFeed NPR and others. Jade has appeared on national programs. She has spoken to audiences at universities and book festivals, according to NPR, and I, quote book is unrelenting -ly, fun, but it is also raw and profane Estonia, fierce pride fierce anger uneven fierce in love on, she's also the contributing writer to the good immigrant, USC my favorite book, acid- titled, how to send your study is the perfect ending to this great book. We'll talk to Jade about your writing, and a lot more welcome to the show, Jade. So excited to have you, thank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here. So let's jump right in Bonn. In Columbus, Ohio. But you grew up in lake any Dennis a little bit about your childhood. What was the culture like at home? Yes. So I was born in Columbus didn't my parents were in grad school there. So I didn't really spend any time there. We moved to LA when I was still in elementary school and Griffin a family that where I wasn't allowed to speak English in the house. You know, I grew up speaking Mandarin Chinese outside, it has, I think the real difference. You don't now in retrospect, I feel really lucky about where I grew up because the San Fernando Valley was very diverse. There were a lot of different lot of different immigrant groups living, there, a lot of Asians, a lot of Latinos, in mice schools. I would say that way. People were not the minority, but they definitely also were not the majority, and I don't think I realized kind of what a difference that. May the in just the way that I saw myself until I met Asian people who grew up in the middle of the United States. Let's say you know, in town in Wisconsin. That was nearly hundred percent wage. So how does yawn upbringing different from those kids who grew up in a predominantly white community? Oh, yeah, I think it was really different. I mean, I think the main thing is, I didn't have that experience of feeling other, you know, I didn't feel like I was conspicuous because of my appearance at all. I mean, I was aware, of course, the fact that lie that Asians are a minority in the United States, but it didn't feel like that to me on a day to day basis, I would say that white people were not there were not in the majority in the schools that I went to unfor for the wins. I got to meet a lot. Lot of you know, there were a bunch of books by other Asian Americans that came out around the same time, and one of the great things about that is that you get to meet each other apple festivals and things like that. And I definitely have spoken to a lot of people who grew up in the mid west in tiny towns, where they were literally, the only Brown face in the towel when I feel like for them there, definitely was this sense of, you know, often being on the defensive, I was feeling like the only Representative of their raise all of those sorts of things and I really realized how lucky I was that I hadn't, you know, that I didn't have to deal with that at all. What inspired you to be a writer? I mean, I think all writers start out as reader, right? Our loved to read as a kid, always, and still to this day. The were always stories that I wanted to tell I think I like every aspect. Of telling the story, you know, I enjoy kind of creating really interesting characters I love building a world. I love the kind of plot and story aspects of it. I love dialog banter, you know. Yeah. So definitely all of that. But I also think, you know, when it came to the novel when it came to the wins, I think that I also just felt a real desire to write a different kind of immigrants story. That was my real driving force for starting map book for sure. So this is a fiction, right? It's it could have been set anywhere. It could have been set on Mars, but you said it in California. Will you die in some of your own experiences in this book? I mean, yes or no? Right. I think that no matter what whenever anyone create something. Of course, it comes kind of. Really tireless from their own experiences and interests. Right. But I think that I it wasn't so much that I wanted to kind of tell my family story because definitely not that it was more that, you know, it's chanting Los Angeles than it's actually a cross country road trip. And there are a lot of different worlds that I wanted to explore the love a road trip story. This seemed like the best way to, to combine them. And how do you translate the concept of your cultural heritage for means stream, and I'm talking by mainstream? I mean mainly bite Vitas in your writing without expanding your truth, or without giving explainations foot, who you are. Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't think of it as translating four someone else's benefit. Right. I think that, you know there's a kind of truth in fiction. Read is the specific is universal that when you tell a really specific story that we knew. Tell a story with a lot of authentic specific true emotions in details. It becomes a universal story. It becomes a story that, that a lot of people can relate to end. So I very much decided not to explain anything, you know, I very much decided not to, for example, offer direct translations for so the matter that's in the book, even though honestly, if you read it, it's you can get the meeting through the rest of the dialogue. But yeah, I think that was a really deliberate decision on my part. Not to try to make myself palatable for an audience. That is not me. You know, and dude, why do you think that's important that took good question? But I also it takes me a minute to think about it because I feel like it's just so true to me that it is important. I am so long since I've thought about the why of that. But I think it's important because who wants to live their life for other people who wants to live their life on other people's terms investors stove really kind of self defeating way to look at the world. And also trying to explain your Sanphong the time, right? Because I think that is an expectation that something that people expect off accused immigrants. I don't know what expediencies how different George from your parents experiences, and I really like your approach because I think it's extremely important for us to share that responsibility with others and say that you owners of knowing people from other cultures knowing Americans other cultures should lie winning it, and not just those who are from culture, which may not be the mainstream culture. Absolutely. And I think also, you know, people can expect anything, right? Like people can expect you to explain that doesn't mean that you have to meet those expectations. Knew of choice of what it is. You wanna put out in the world. And the other thing is, they're always going to be people from culture, who loved to explain. Just like lived splaine's, so they can do that. That's great. And the people who wanna know, concerts, that out so talking about yawn experiences where says your experiences, deem. You see any similarities or differences, in terms of, how they approach being American is their definition different from yours. And if so, in what ways, and if it's similar in what ways once again, essay man. Look, see my parents approach to being American. I don't know. I mean I think that, you know, Americans love to talk about being America. Ryan Americans love to talk about the American dream all this, and I mean all Americans. Right. Like Americans of any race or religion who have been here for however many number of years, you know, somehow, there's this collective cultural, navel-gazing fascination with the idea of what it is to be American. But do you think that sometimes people do that especially immigrants being inside my experiences? They feel like they once they talk about the American dream somehow that's the pivotal moment when they have fully immerse themselves in American culture. And because if you ask me, I don't think about the American dream. He late everybody else around me makes a conscious effort to make me realize that I should think about it. I don't know if that makes sense you know, it doesn't make sense. I mean, I, for example, right now in certain fashion circles, like dresses, are really popular and there's a lot of discussion of over like ooh. Pray justice. Look, good on, do we wanna wear them doing not in some ways, I feel like the American like talking about the American dream is part of this very long friend of the formation of America. Right. Like America's still really in its early years. It's in the sort of, like second or third phase of its formative years. So we're still talking about all of these things that are kind of how to recreate a collective consciousness, right? Sometimes, I think they're very interesting comments. Sometimes, I think that like the American dream is more just this, like like an easy catchphrase, like, like an easy sort of thing to, like, tuck up heartstrings or something like that. That's how it but going back to your experiences with yours because we were discussing bad for what I interrupted you sorry for that. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about that lake. I think you will you talking about got bits experiences in the context of American dream. So my parents emigrated to America from Taiwan. They came here to grad school. I don't that they thought we will come to America and the American dream will be there waiting for us. That's in the left part of the United States. That's not the way that I think there are a lot of people here from other countries, who quickly see that Americans love to hear that, you know. And so when they're interviewed, or whatever, then they're like, I s I came from Albanian, I and I discovered the American dream, you know, shorted there. Of course, there are people in other countries where perhaps, they do talk about the American dream. I can't say for sure that, that doesn't exist anywhere. Right. But I think for them at the time it was more of a practical choice there weren't a lot of jobs in Taiwan at the time. And grad school was basically free in America back then. So they came, you know, I think my parents are kind of a weird, example, in the sense that they were content while on, but their families are from mainland China and so. I think they sort of felt like immigrants in Taiwan in a sense, also. You know, you do the few pot of the US now lake it ends up belonging here. Now give end it's Vince. I think people are endlessly adaptable. And I also think that for whatever reason we have this sort of light bittersweet, nostalgia about the concept of home. You know so even if you are percent who lives in a place where your ancestors of live forever. You're still going to feel that kind of live on my home is slipping away from me. It's changing these little bit. You know, these days, I don't know. I think it's something about like the way humans are wired in general, that makes us I feel that way about home. You know, I you more wind rebuttal on mood secure when it comes to sense of belonging in the US, do generally think that I'm someone who. It just feels pretty at home anywhere everywhere. I've been in the US. I've felt lecture was I love Los Angeles. I really think it's just the best city, but it is totally where I see myself women. But, you know, I yeah, other countries that I've travelled to I wouldn't say that I feel not at home there. But also, I bet someone could make the argument that might concept of home is worked because I'm like two generations removed from my actual homeland do you know. So moving onto your and say, because that's how you're seeing the good immigrant book. I was introduced DO writing essay, how to send your Studi jock about how important it is to live life. Unapologetic knee any college, an act of defiance butcher fought, I would make if a bit of background out what you were talking about in the s&p again, in the aftermath off two thousand sixteen elections in home, you were scared and you felt other, but then you were like, you know, this is not something that you should be feeling. So getting a little bit about that. You know, I think it was it was a sense that I had never felt can have other in America. I mean that's not quite true. Right. Like, of course, I've been aware of the fact that I am in some people's eyes other, but I think just as a chore like personality, trait, I would. Wooded say that ever made me feel like I was actually less than them or that I was vulnerable in some way. It's just not the way that I personally am wired to approach the world. You know, but after the two dozens of election of on bookstore and I was in Austin, and I was driving to Dallas and UPS Waco on the way from Austin, Dallas, and anyone in America, who's probably guess, over twenty years, old friendly where of Waco in the big standoff there and all of that. So that town definitely has place, the American imagination as just a you know, scary. This with militias and guns and everything. And I was driving. And I just I woke up that morning really feeling like, oh my God. Maybe this country has just changed. Like maybe this is a different world. Now I had to pull off in Waco to fill up to get gas. I just remember being really wary of everybody that gas station and it truly was just all these giant trucks were there and I couldn't get my credit card to work. I'd go into the actual building. And as I walked up, I really felt scared in a way that I just had really experienced before you nose day time. It was the streets were busy. It was like it's not a situation where I would normally feel scared, but I really did. And I opened the door in the cashier was probably the Middle Eastern. I don't know exactly where his from. But definitely another Brown. I looked at each other with just dislike total relief on both of our faces. I'm used so clear that was what had happened when looked at each other? We're like, oh my God. It's you. Okay. You. Don't have to be scared of you. And but it was. But yeah, then as I was driving away. I really felt so bad. I just felt like that's ridiculous. I'm not going to allow this time to change the way I feel about my place in this country and to the essay really grew from that when we look at two thousand sixteen elections, people have changed, and they've late most of us have in some way, you get to put it into action than we are doing things. Whether it's at resume or whether it's activism, in some other form are, like, writing S's like you doing at creating a podcast own one evidence. But do you think it's something that what would we don't recognize we don't want to admit is that what happened? He would have sixteen elections is in on off what has been fought yet, decided to for a long time. Absolutely. Yeah. And so how do we read? Consign with that, drew. Oh, yeah. I think that's absolutely true. You know, I wasn't surprised like I was scared in shocked in a way when when I woke up that morning. But I totally thought there was a chance that Trump would win. You know, I'm not blind to the braces on that is that underlies like a lot of American institutions. A lot of things in this country in some way, I do think that, that is the good thing that has come out of absolutely. No is the fact that it isn't something that can be hidden anymore that it's a bad that were forced to discuss that were forced to face that were forced to find solutions for all we can do is be as unafraid as possible in facing an I don't know if you've seen that with immigrant communities that you interact with at. Dog? But what I realized is that as immigrants, and I've said it diamond again. We when we come to the US, we just decide that we act like guests, we don't assert ourselves politically. We don't disturb ourselves. Socially, we come here for college. And then we raise at gates, we give them good education. We pay taxes, but then we don't want to raise voices. We don't want to talk about injustices that happen. True. I just opened. That's true. I think that, yes, that exists, right? Like, there are a lot of people in immigrant communities who, who asked that way. Who's in click don't rock, the boat LeMay. Just get through college make some money, do it came to do. But I think that, you know, a lot of the on the ground activism is definitely led by kids who. Ashore, I think a lot of probably offers generation, but yeah, many of them are from immigrant, I think that's way the differences. I think Christianity actions taken generation because for them send off belonging much stronger, and I think for them this this notion off, this is their country. Embiid is no other country that big input would fall back on. And I think when I talked about immigrants I am specific rocking about immigrants not finished, second gen and that's why I bought the blame our communities for this other notion because if he act like others than we would need it like others. I have friends whose kids are fist jam and they are Betty active politically em, some of them are like teenagers, and they the gigli active in against gun violence against other injustices. But when you look at it, I. I still think that biscuit, participate as much why the question also is, when did they immigrate, right? Like I think someone who when they were five is to have a very different experience than someone who came. They were twenty five. Yeah. Yeah. In a very different feeling about being in this country about whether or not, they feel a desire to commit to change in things in this country. Yeah I mean I totally a situation where if I like if I fell in love with someone and move to France, but it was now you know what? I mean. Then would I feel a desire to take part in any of the protests there? Maybe not like maybe I would feel like well my country, you know, her all I wanna get. I don't know. But yeah, I don't I don't know. Most of my friends who are immigrants are people who came when they require y'all. So I would say that their experiences really are berry similar to my dog abodes in your both binds is. The would and this lady got up to you. And she says, oh, this is set in Bella uninsured. Not, I'll valley, it should have. Now's that's where where the Chinese reside. And seems that people in order to preserve then would view their into question. Matting bad, John stress from what Lyndon sitter to be dinar, right? Absolutely. And and I remember reading that it really bothered. You can you talk a bit about that expedience. I guess my term would be more that I was just very incredulous issue. That's what would be so unimaginative of the they would think that the way they see the world is the only way that the world could possibly exist. So what happened was, I was at a literary event. It was a fundraiser for a library. And so we were seated at these tables for this luncheon. This woman has done next to me into, like I don't understand why your book really should have been set in San Marino. And she said it was real kind of like friendliness, and I truly did not understand what she was saying at first into San radio is community in Los Angeles area, where a lot of wealthy Chinese people live, you know, in the Finally, I was like, oh, you mean 'cause there's a lot of rich Chinese people in San Marino. She's like, yes. That's where they are. They're not in. Belair erin's. Ed Marino, and rink couldn't be one rates Janis family. Bentley. I mean, I understand if I had perhaps written BelAir, as this community, that was just like full of hundreds of rich Chinese people will sure that's not quite true. Like I'd understand that argument there, but I just wrote this one family, and they can live anywhere. I love the Dade when we are. John's fomative shift in our politics in our overall value system. And we've talked about this in some ways, we have the grand and as you pointed out, but in other ways, it's a blessing because we see more activism. We see be confronting issues that would not confronted before. But how do we as individuals and as a site in community counterbalance, the undermining off divers semitic because I feel that something that's under the Dag. I don't want to sound dramatic. But that's how I will think there's a lot of different levels to this. Right. I think there is kind of what you do in the day to day in your kind of interpersonal relationships and infamy with that it is, you know, no longer being willing to kind of make other people feel comfortable when they say something or do something that does betray with centrally like an underlying racist way of looking at the world giving Giampa. How would you do that? Hey, here's an example, that if this friend listens she should just know that I do not think shoes at all terrible person. But it is a good. Hanging out with some friends, and one of the camera, whether she mentioned, the title of my book or whether she mentioned by last name, you know, my last name is chain title. The book is the wings versus world. It's very easy to confuse the two. I don't think it's a big deal at all. Honestly, it would be like, if someone who has white wrote a book where, you know, the book title was tellers in their last name was Williamson like it's not it's not a big deal. Right. Like it makes sense. It's too similar words. And so she flipped the two and then she was like, oh my God. I'm so sorry. That was so racist of me. I'm really sorry. And, you know, I think in times past I would have been like it's five. It wasn't racist. You're totally fine. But instead, what I said it was actually. No, that wasn't racist of you. In fact, what is racist is the fact that you think that is raise, you know that a Chinese last name would be somehow so different from any other more. European last name, that it would be somehow more of an insult inflec- that joke that gets total out where you see this on a lot of kind of like woke American succumbs Elmer on is like a Mexican that the other person's like dogs say that, that's too, you know, they're like, no, no. I'm actually from Mexico you drink. Isn't it more bothersome when people patronize you, I just don't want anybody to patronize? Yes. Sure. And so I just feel like you know, that like sort of being willing to make someone who you love uncomfortable for a moment is something that I would have been less willing to join the past a now am totally open to doing all the time. You know, big, I'm not saying like you suck in your temple person. I'm saying, hey, look at what you're doing and think about it for a moment and reconsider it. So I think on a personal level that is the difference. And then I think on, on a larger level a lot of it is just being willing to put in the time in terms of like donating to political candidates in not in the presidential race. You know, who are like running further smaller offices being willing to actually join a protest in like that don't have necessarily like an immediate large results. But that are the things that actually ended up moving the needle, what is the one? Most shocking thing, people have said to you about your book on about your essay. I mean, honestly, don't even shop. Manny more. But I kind of love doing is lose discussions, you know with my friends who have bugs out who are white who don't get these comments at all. But, you know, I mean they get other like everyone is going to get some kind of crazy comment about their book. I mean, most shocking, I don't know. You know, the the had a center, your own story, essay, definitely has a few of those in there, I gave a talk at a place that I love. So I will allow it to remain anonymous. Or the wealthy patrons of this place. You know when you come a fancy of his private club was like beautiful Lungin served at the end of my talk. I was kind of led around, like meet of his donors. And one of them was this woman who had been looking at me with such, like love in her eyes to kind of any white oriental bit. Remember that, you know? Very pretty innocent looking at deceptively. So. And you know, when those introduced to her she was like, oh, Honey, you know, that was that was amazing. I love to talk so much. She were so Dora in German. And you know, it was like, if I closed by is I could just think that you were a normal person. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Those pretty good. Yeah. Oh my. Oh, wow. I am seriously speechless right now. It's a Mike. I only know what did you say to her? Like you said something like you know, in that situation, I knew how much money all these people. It wasn't that. I was like, oh, you can buy your way out of anything. But also, I was like, well, I don't want to mess up for this institution. I think like if it had been on stage, for example, I would have said something I kind of let that go, but I said, something like, none of us are normal, not even you or, you know, something like that in the it, sorta jokey appointed by, you know, you know, it's so interesting because I was talking to one off my friends yesterday. Emmy will talking about tile even throw divers city organizations or what have you. They have issues with diarrhea team chur. And she brought on thing video important. And I, I had not really thought about it as much and she said, like, even if you listen to NPR, which I listen to very diligently, and you will hear late Lakshmi Singh. She doesn't have an accident. So the point being. That a person like me, who has an accident. You won't me are person like me on radio. You're talking about this, this whole incident. I'm assuming she meant that. You don't have an accent. You know, that's interesting. I, I actually never even thought about the accent, part of it. I just assumed the top was about. It was it was like a kind of jokey, but serious like a fun yet moving thing about, like how to write a novel. So I just assumed that she meant more like you could have been white with my eyes closed. But you're right. She probably did me also because I did have because in his mind, you sound night, and embezzlement lake what she was trying to end that talks he was, complimenting you at events. What happens they for me? Like my accent, just the way it say is she? She wasn't born on these tier at. And again, what we see because we don't normalize different accents. We don't eat ring people with different accents, so mainstream American population. Somebody who sounds like maybe you would be more normal than from zoning night me. Me true. Yeah. It's real. You know, honestly, that was one of the reasons that I wanted to make sure that I don't love writing in an accent. That's why I wanted to give the father in the way like a pretty distinctive accent and slightly in properties of grammar, etc. Because I just really think that like an accent is a Mark of accomplishment. It means that you speak more than one lane. English is not dominated language. So the way we write emiss-. I mean it isn't accomplish us. And I'm sure that if I was somebody to speak would do fluently, they wouldn't. And because that's not bad language. So you'd absolutely right. Important to introduce that. Because everytime we talk about accents. I think in specially in means stream media. We talk about it in a disparaging way making fun of somebody either. That's one hundred percent why I wanted to be like, okay using this accent. Sounds ridiculous. But this is someone extremely accomplished and extremely capable who just happens to not care exactly what he's out. Exactly. Sajid, if you will. Yes, cry because I asked all my guests this question, and I get interesting on Susan. I'm hoping that one day, I just combined all those on Susan, you know, make it into auditing. I don't know what, but if you were to decide Medica in one word, what would that be? Oh boy. Hope you honest, the first word that came to mind was just big. I mean yeah, that's what it is. I mean, I think like on the Asli it is geographically large around in a way that I have come to appreciate more more. I've in there is a while right out of college where all I wanted to do was travel in other parts of the world, which I was lucky to get to do a lot of, and then heighten the past five years, or so, I have traveled around America, a lot more. And, you know, you somebody amazing things to say and then also I do feel like America's ambitions are bid, and I don't mean it a manifest destiny sense, though, I guess, that is kind of what lines it that there is, you know, a school of, like think big that not that it doesn't exist at all in other countries. But then America likes to think is very American in. Do you think something's Stu America's own detriment Justice? This notion of think banks. Maybe I'm not sure yes or. No. I mean, I think that. I just think it's hard to talk about any thing, even though I often want to talk about sort of, you know, the American consciousness like what we think in this nation. It's era. I also think that because we are so big. There are so many different worlds here. There are an equal number of people who are like being small be careful don't get get a job, you know, all of that stuff like that sort of exists equally food we end on interview I would might to want to rapid fire around, so I some run questions could end. Yeah. And you feed a feed through on just taken a word or maybe a sentence. They don't have to be long onces Hayworth, if you could eat one food for the rest of your life. What would it be same rate of Bill? If you could only take three things through deserted island, what would they? On very tactical. So my briefings would be like a Flint. You know, like something that lets you light fire like a backpack full of emergency supplies. Yeah. That could be one thing. Yeah. Snickers programming. Yeah. And just it would be terrible to be there football. Yeah. Be too. Mean to you think bucket list, I would love to learn how to scuba dive. I'd love to see the Northern Lights to go to Arkansas. Yeah. That's interesting. So it's all travel related most of it. Yeah. I guess they're all like experience related. Yeah. And your biggest failure so far. You know, doesn't interesting question. I feel like maybe I don't think about life in those terms. I'm not trying to hide telling you about any failures or mistakes that I've made, I can't really think of I think it's, it's a great approach to life. Why define anything as Fady, right? Everything teaches us something your biggest achievement so far. I'm not very good at these sort of best of questions. Also break the by. But I think things in terms of greatest achievement either I will say, I was recently of. At this Tuva. Commune basically, is kind of our project, kind of a commun-, but in order to eat the cabins that we were staying in you to chop your own, firewood. And I've tried to chop firewood before, but I've never been able to. But I had no choice this time. And I actually wielded a giant axe chopped up a bunch of firewood, and I really is maybe the most published I've ever felt that isn't achievement. It absolutely is. I would not be happy doing that do I mean, I would feel so proud of my Sanford, let's be suffice. You ever got a few years ago, I was going through a break up on Sunday to a friend of mine on the phone upset at something. I honestly can't remember what I was upset about it. You know, wasn't something enormous. And I knew that. But by friends said, oh, you know, these things are. All about your ego. Like you're upset because your egos wounded, and I know that, that really is kind of a, you know, like a psych one, one thing, but I think because she said it to me at that moment, I it just really hit me. And I actually I think I've found it very helpful when forward not just in romantic relationships. But I kind of why I don't get particularly upset when people say crazy shit, you know, legend feel like it has no affect on the core of my being at all. It has no effect on my treselle on who I am in the world. The only thing that could be upset by that is, is my. Yeah. So your, your ideal Gatien, I think we all have an honest without, but. It's of vacation. Yeah. Definitely, you know, doing things outdoors being some really beautiful. You know, your favorite emoji. I use the sparkle heart of law is a lot. My sister. She has a lot. Yeah. I just think it's so cute. Also, even though I have to admit, I don't really like cats in real life because I'm very allergic to them. I do really like the emojis. That's a cat with a little tear me. Are you a TI person are coffee Bruce t I'm anti caffeine? Oh but but d- had some caffeine. Right. We about drink herbal, Tom, I, I'm from Pakistan. So I have to have either black tea like I can AfriC six. Scott's a day or more. I have. So I on caffeine. Yeah. Home is home is everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to think that thank you so much. This was wonderful. I had so much fun guys. These checkout Jade's, both banks is the world. You can also check it. Essay in the good, immigrants USA. It's an amazing essay, that's how I found her. And you should all support both her box. Also, thank you so much for supporting my podcast for subscribing, Juliette. We have a few on account if you want to check out our website is WWW dot eating conical, pod dot com. These stay tuned by next episode when we will bring you another immigrant story. And in the meantime, stay connected.

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And what is it like for example, if it really allows me to forgo for example, the extra calories of sugar without sacrificing flavor or quality than that's a gain for my for my clients, because that's what they're seeking. Calling slow because then you don't. Little Olive, our no Stevia flavored cauliflower. Circle is complete ladies and gentlemen. You just. You start topic come full circle. Ghetto? Can I just say I'm proud of you, you know. which whichever way to saying goes man. You've you've made it this far? I feel like I. Feel like you're I. Feel like podcasting. Tower banks congratulations. Keto. Still in the running towards becoming America's. Host of the podcast is like his seal I. Feel like you see when. Started as I you like you seal you win by wings. That's not even a thing first of all. We have a talking head. Held up a card yet. Everything is that was very touching, but I'm not crying. It's still the freaking Jalapeno juicing. We follow up. Comment from Mr Joe, Brown twenty twenty. No Way. Are you making this now? I'm on Youtube commented. On episodes for God. Bless excalibur nights. Thank you Joe Brown Oak? View! It's January twenty twenty one because. Of deeded obviously updated, your name is GonNa, be has. Up On for for me I'm telling keeps showing up as Joe Brown twenty twenty. Ad Issue Losers along time ago was but I. don't his heart. He needs us out. And we need you to joke. So. Do. Have we have a topic? Right like this there. There's some online training stuff to to talk about like. We're talking about the magic. In the Industry today Zach said the right. No today we're talking about. Talking. Against doing what I thought. This is the shoelaces episode all right? So so pay. Does that well, you know. I'm getting it together. Siemian episode ten. Be Phenomenal phenomenal movie. Be Patient with me Jonathan. So or Danny versus paid you know 'cause. I get a lot of commentary from Ota Students, because believe it or not out there thought cast listeners actually do some. Functional. Work for for organization this, isn't it? You're not gonNA, here today, but I do things that are fairly normal in impactful, but I hear for students all the time you know my paid at didn't work, I did my paid ad in India. They got no traction. Nobody responded to my paid. Add It's broken. It's the algorithm is system it's. Safe. Zone, Verka Difficult reading think. self came to my house and unplugged my laptop as I as I paid for my head, so it's funny, because it actually is is nothing, but it is A. Spoke an paid advertising networks. June may get more difficult so smaller advertisers generally because small advertisers completely insignificant so the bottom line and give the most of heads. This is kind of always what happens with any paid advertising media establishes. You have like a you have a loss McCain on facebook. APPS came out. What happens is. In order for it to be. In order to get together this huge by in a media. Really, it's pretty cheap to buy. Ads can convert them on the while, and so everybody starts using them. And, then there's kind of a switch that flipped at one point. When the uptake of the markets dog Tuesday level. where I mean, facebook doesn't care about you. Thousand dollars a month. Five thousand ten thousand dollars cable hundred thousand dollars a month. You know they'd advertisers spending millions of dollars every week. And so. So. What is the law? ed TV. Doesn't networks I guess the idea would with basically what we're talking about legitimate. And what do you do? You Feel Generous, have you? generate leads? inspires Kind of pointless. What's the best way to do? My answer spreads prizes in the best way, but they're certainly easiest to get started. We talked about this a few times where it's Kinda like a big stone wheel along time getting on training business going what what we don't let nuys. Is that unconsciously in inputs, attorney, business or whatever we do beforehand? We will build up a lot of lamentable over lot of years consciously without knowing it. But, we forget about lot of that work that happened today and now starting online you. You'd kind of stuck, necessarily a new business. Start Marketing the new way to voting in a new way you perhaps for. The EX! Well I believe very strongly that you should start with what you already have, and you should take easiest path. which is almost always going to be organic, which was always almost always going to feed off of existing relationships that. Doesn't mean that you sell. Friends doesn't mean But somebody who is a friend of a for somebody WHO's connected you some way A. Has Reason to trust you more. Than somebody. WHO's never mentioned. And I think that that's the biggest missing piece for a lot of people who start on training think that they need to advertise to get leads the understanding that anybody you've ever met. Anybody you've ever met. That knows that. Is immediately on more qualified lead than somebody. You've never met in your less because somebody. You've never been you life Do you have to cut through the noise? Get their attention for long enough. Don't want to listen to you, and then you have to prove to them that you are worth their time in the model. That takes time. It takes a lot of efforts into the sticks. I need to confide in online training client with ads these stays. Beyond your initial, you could just get started and take off some low hanging. Fruit may be people who can network targeting people paid advertising. But once you get beyond those initial few people. Like We'll be different with everybody, but in the fitness industry to generally fitness client for fouls for weight gain for whatever. You'RE GONNA. Spend over one hundred dollars easy. And as you want to win more than that, you're going to spend more than that to acquire. This is a pain clap. This isn't a leaked so when you see all these people that are advertising. Oh, I can help you pay client acquisition. Look at look at this. Get notice that all of those advertisements Osho. What happened when somebody starts working with them? You ever noticed how. Yellow the testimony. Always Posted got three clients were X. amount of dollars in the first five days. Okay, Bro, that's cool. For, so many goals and INFLEC- seems like preachy acquisition. What happened after a month? You never see that because after a month all of a sudden flight aquisition costs went up considerably because that's what they always were. Once you go beyond so the question again the generation Neither one is better than the. Daily generation is incredibly profitable to do wreck. You need to go back and you need a good conversion mechanism. And need good milk getting a good copy. And you need to actually spend a fair bit of money for your figuring out what works? What this means. Is that hugest start? No. Big Hill to climb in. I believe very strongly if you haven't gotten US already stocking when it comes to go out the business. Take what you only have. When you don't have a lot of money. To invest a little bit more time. When you have money, you could start buying back through time. Most people start online training. Even? If you don't have a lot of time, certainly don't have a lot of money. You can waste a lot of money, and you also don't have. All of the skill sets that you need like dictated advertising. Who competed against you competed against people who experienced copywriters advertisers design moles NBA. All at once. And if it's just you and you don't have all of those skill sets like at a high level. It's going to take you to build out. To take you a lot of money to figure out. What does. She get honestly start with which out to people you know. Start with understanding who your target market is. Who talked about this earlier? Talked about this yet, so who you speaking to cleft messages for them to compelling offer for that? And put it into your network. Figuring out how to convert people via. FACEBOOK instagram APPS. And make time to actually do it. Get your first few clients. Once you get your first refinance, then you can decide whether you want the best that back into paid advertising simultaneously all again. I. Don't think you'll get stuck up stocks. We didn't pay for advertisements the first five years of my. We, still we advertise a fair bit now we do a fair bit paid advertising. But I'll tell you that are that we have behind the. And all of the organic work that we do all content we produce. Figs riposte, basically specific folks that let ask people to take action and talk to us. Only she knows that we send all of these organic themes. Generally, we would leads paid. But the pages kind of London, the background and allows us to scale allows us to be consistent throughout I. think that's kind of how you have to look at it. Each to you grow your business to words. Like? Not. Just be like. And then you could start with will whatever investing law money pay, but he certainly stuck. So. Here's a question I'm I'm starting out I'M GONNA! Put my I add what's what's my action item? As a as a as a young ambitious I'm I'm a young ambitious Catalina. You know what I've got my whole future ahead of me a bright light of the world. The low of my existence trailing. Peppered by. Whole opinion pepper in the corner, mom, crying, shedding real tears of joy. Because I've just become a trainer and I WANNA. Get some content out there and I. You know. I got a story to tell John. What you do, what I do you do exactly what Carolina did I thought you might say. That was different and unique Abo- to wear all of those people that are also different and unique index sebwe. What makes tech what other insecurities. Where they now they want to go in aggregate, but like it's probably pretty similar. And then tell some stories around that in those communities, where those people already exist with a simple call to action. Comment if you WANNA learn more. Send me a message if you interested If, it's on if it's on Instagram, it's really good to be able to like. You could tell vc historians in your instagram story. And then from there. People message, said Hey. If you WANNA know more about the suddenness. It's as simple as that. You actually don't need phone calls most of the time. Might help you to do. Some phone calls to learn more than two people, but. Man Like any played. Call your clients. If you hold clients, call your clients because you could pitch online trading in a way. That sounds if you let it own kind stocked with you because they traveled a lot for example, will you move away? They move store, but they really love training huge. Then you can easily Taylor and basically say it was A. Hated Good like actually just starting service should be interested in its. Allows me to work with people that are actually not directly with me and actually off the more than I was often posting. In. A actually launched a story that somebody who I will. Remind me a lot about you. I thought. And, she likes to hear. Yet okay great here. Or if they start trading because cost issue, because impose training can be too expensive. We can in the same way. Hey, I've got a bunch will cost effective service and and I think you benefit from that. You like to hear her. Talk about it in a way that would make them care, and if you know somebody that's past heart. You talk about way the. So. Keto you actually talked to humans, is that. Is that what I'm gathering? Because it sounds foreign to me? You're engaging with real people. You, you did that. Yes, imagined that I actually talked to be. Did you, did you and I know this is gonNA sound radical. Did you also listen to them when they talked? It's baffling. I know like it's just crazy, right, but all my it works. I can't contain my confusion on this subject. Ambassador. Obviously joking, but do so much truth in what you're saying. In the job behind the joke of what you say, and how sad it is right, the amount of times in in a group which is our fleet group for on chairs on facebook. The amount of times that will have a A. That will have a well attention trader post there. He helped guys. Get cuts I'm trying to think. This guy doesn't nothing. Would what do you do about to give up? And I will it's so funny. 'cause inevitably every single time you guys are also you need this money. Times all just take back a single line. How many people having spoken? Right. Right and and. The answer. Is Hit every case I've ever done it they. The answer is not like Oh four or not the answers. Well listen this. Listen to this ride. deflection is kid. And now just right back state line. But how many people have you spoken to today? And they say none and say. Maybe you should talk to people. It's radical. How Dare You Jonathan? What what's? What's notable here is considering how you like to be sold to. Because the first bit of an engagement as customer is actually, the prospect sequenced right the sales sequence. Has that feel? How does it feel? To be sold to by somebody. WHO's trying to automate every single thing? If the service that you're selling is by definition. It posted on service. Right exactly right right there dodd right there, not see some sort of a disconnect. Yup Dough from a client standpoint. Would you not if you would've customer. A you being marketed to with an automated facebook ad to email often to automated Webinar to whatever this is like in advance, say like how many people as need have that and you're selling a postal service if you even have the time to talk to me. While you selling to? Imagine after what kind of service about getting, get from this person exactly. I don't care that you promise me. It's GonNa. Be Posted. We get phone calls you wouldn't. You wouldn't even send me a message asking how daily. During the sales process, you don't even show up in your own marketing materials, yeah! Basics back to basics that goes back to what you were saying. couple of episodes that go in that we're here to solve a problem so to sell your client's problem. You need to talk to them to find the. Are you going to write. Just. Really! That's actually brilliant point. Is. came. On my family after eight episodes, yeah. But the A. The idea of you actually don't know what the client needs. In the client also. oftentimes can't verbalize. She actually wants. When a client comes in, they say I want to lose five pounds I. WHY DO WHATEVER? They're saying those things. Because they feel like those are either things to say what they feel like. Those are the things that make them feel better. which they may, they may not be, but the never the depots behind why they watch cheese something, so if all due is coach is gives them some sort of. Of of an automated system, a superficial service delivery without ever having talked to them in diabetes deepened. We're not actually ever GONNA sell through your up. There were fascinating examples in our industry I think it was it. Look a change. He told story of A. In a in a form for one of. Clients seven basically knocked recommending them service like say. Oh I did I did. You and I would recommend it. And then they looked into her database. Alexa being lost fifty pounds, yes. had. Overnight she speaking negatively about the program. And it's because she felt like she wasn't looked after the that she had hoped that she would after the way that you must be after. Because which you really needed. As part of that program, which which they didn't no with this automated program was not I a fifty pound weight. Loss's great obviously, but it wasn't. It wasn't there compassionate specific story, but it wasn't a Ashington field. You didn't feel like she had somebody. There are no. She felt like she did it on a low. And and as a result she was not only like not happy that she was going over for Steve program that you've lost fifty pounds. Right the asking. Yeah, but but that's super common. You know as a as a coach. Is this kind of lost out of Coachee? What's what's the? HIPPOCRATIC OATH OF COACHING? Is. Learn one to postseason needs before you figure out what you're going to give them. Yup also radicalized radical. Crazy. I just I wasn't prepared for this level of radicalism today and I'm I'm blown away. I'll deep deep. into. Cheese, I'm. Definitely Gandhi. Of. The. Commend! You just need to just. Going to be amber and I like giving actual legitimate information and getting. Done. I SUPPOSE Yeah amber is nodding quite violently. Swap you will, you will clearly see the MVP is my house. Could. Undercut. Desolate. That's that's the bill every cases. I'm. GonNa I'm, GonNa remain solid on that. Speak to endorse or get involved in. That's abby. I've got I've got a reputation to protect. So Jonathan, here's here's what I've taken away from what you said today. You can talk to people. That's that's allowed as a yeah, it's it's allowable to engage with people you know. In relationships have much else that you can use leverage if you're gonNA. Do paid advertising. You have to do eight advocates. You will get. You'll lose a lot of money. You'll spend a lotta. Time will be a lot of frustration. You'll get fairly chauffeur if it kind of dip your foot. You kind of have to leading to do it, which means you have to have money to door is a casino. Win Eight. You need to WHO's really. People trying to get dollar ten what? Sounds good. Even if you put a dollar. Ten with that, you're not going to be every single time. If. You've got fifty one forty nine advantage casino. Still might have to spend millions of dollars before you start to see that advantage. Is there on site so? into to the in a little bit. So to have to start. which is your ability to coach ability to be compassionate ability to make your connection? With real people at start between know we call five day I, mean it's. Top of mind system in the Trade Academy. Is just. In its most simple than ever, it's so simple. People don't believe it works, but it is literally the base foundation of everything. Which is literally I? Kid You not. Nature that every single day you speak to five people. That is literally all that. Almost every single online trader ever needs to do to different this. is every single day into Farsi? Doesn't even have to be to. Wells. And the best news it gets easier and easier. The more you do it just like anything just like diet nutrition. The more you practice, the easier gets, it becomes a habit just. Doing it right? Then then you've got look for hacks at one point and justice, Scalia drops. For some Stevia own me. got. A. Johnson Parks Jonathan has encouraged us to to relationship build and. Has Seconded that so all of you guys out there? Listening on the PODCAST, just go out and reach out and touch somebody's hand. Or getting marketing so your fitness plan. The online trader. Trainer show. This is the online trader show. We shouldn't have a podcast. Took just like those. That's A. That's an interesting point like for me. Personally I don't like to drink gasoline. So I. Don't want a gasoline I. Don't want water that tastes like gasoline if I don't like the thing, why would I want substitute for the thing? That makes no sense that was a terrible it was. Auto. And I'm usually pretty good at now. That's not one of my better ones. Usually pretty good. Doubts that was as bad as it's got. That that was that was pretty bad. I think Kettles, Sipping Diet Cola though so I know she's into that. Have Production. She's chiming in. Advertisements because people actually eight us to do as funny as that sounds.

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 Can Labour reunite to take on Boris Johnson?

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Can Labour reunite to take on Boris Johnson?

"Today can labor overcome its divisions to face down Britain's new conservative prime minister and as Boris Johnson carries out a brutal reshuffle of his Cabinet Sonia Soda on what we learned from his first Downing Street speech from now on it is Jeremy Corbyn. Eh Boris Johnson Jones but as parliament breaks up for the summer the Labor leaders ability to oppose his new conservative rival has been hampered by deep divisions on his own side. He's faced anger over brexit job. SFU's Brexit Brexit is at odds with Labour's international fury over the handling of Anti Semitism within the Labor Party at is now commonplace is more conspicuous and is more corrosive with some describing it as a civil war that pits the party leader against his deputy Tom Watson from the Guardian. I'm a niche Gristana today. InFocus can the Labor party reunite to oppose Boris Johnson said Plus The Guardian and you spend a lifetime in parliament take up to Jeremy Corbyn Office Jeremy Corbyn Squat lucky man really he has a suite of officers always allocated to the leader of the opposition party and `and he has cozy office with lots of sort of photographs in you know even campaigning and artworks and he has a beautiful view of the Thames and across the river and outside of that is a much bigger the office of airy room where a lot of his staff and advises sit including his to sort of key left tenants really I suppose you would say carry Murphy and shameless moon and who they the pair of them together Oh absolutely key to sort of helping to form Jeremy Corbyn Strategy and his relationships with the White Party. I think carry Murphy is she's quite colorful characters. She's a former nurse especially Jeremy coping sort of gatekeeper. He's enforcer. She has some of the difficult conversations I think that he doesn't like having he's not somebody. Particular conflict unlike telling people often like sucking people any of those things she's the woman who's out there sort of managing the team but also reaching out into into this'll shutt- cabinet and the Wind Party and sometimes talking tough on behalf of the leader I think and shaves mil well formerly of this parish of course used to be got in journalist for many years and he's famously bright charming he has quite left-wing views as this Jeremy Makobane of course and he sometimes features in sort of media coverage. Is this rather shadowy mysterious figure who sir kind of puppet master for the Labor leader almost so inside the bustling office. How do they react to Boris Johnson's victory double-edged for them so they quite pleased in the sense that you know Jeremy Corbyn is to portray himself in an almost populist way is being for the ordinary people and against the elite an boys is Johnson very easy to caricature? He's He's Etonian. He's Porsche. He wanted to be pirated five or six or whatever and he's quite easy for Labor to attack. It's quite easy disease it kind of exemplar of exactly the sort of system that we want confine overthrow I stress. I don't believe that economic equality is possible indeed. Some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with Jones on that is a valuable spur to and economic activity on the other hand think Jeremy Corbyn was a brilliant candidate to one against Theresa May in the two thousand seventeen general election campaign because she's very wooden. She's not authentic. She's not comfortable in their own skin. Johnson is a very good campaigner and that may prove more difficult for Jeremy Corbyn because being a campaign is one of his strengths and so right now when they tend their attention to their own party to M._p.'s two pairs to members. What is the scene in front of them well? It's very bitter. It's back to I would say the sort of toxic tone that we saw in the wake of the Referendum in two thousand sixteen when there were mass resignations from the shadow cabinet there is this sense I think in Lotto is is called the leader of the opposition's office that a lot of the wider parliamentary party would like to sort of overthrow Jeremy Corbyn would like to shift the party back to a different bit of the political spectrum and so. I think there's a bit of a bunker mentality. I think it's fair to say <music> where going to labor now. Civil war rips apart captive Corbin's team in the media people are describing this civil war. I mean is not what it looks like to them. And if so who do they see as leading the revolt. Will they tend to see Tom Watson who is because Jeremy Corbyn deputy never exactly brothers-in-arms the two men at the top of labor have one thing in common they were both elected to their posts. It means Tom Watson copy sacked and can speak his mind. I mean he's he's long been a sort of pantomime villain. Almost for the left of the poverty and you know whenever there's any shenanigans going on the assumption is always that tone what's is behind it but they certainly see quite a lot of what's been happening in recent days over the issue of antisemitism over the issue brexit as being in some way stirred up in stoked by him in order to dislodge Jeremy Corbyn from the leadership. I'm remember there was a leadership challenged right in two thousand sixteen and there was a coordinated effort to dislodge him so it seemed like paranoia but actually chain quite good cause for in the boss yeah reason for paranoia but there is a shift among his big supporters as well. I mean I saw some polling recently from Yougov of members that showed you know huge plus sixty five satisfaction action right back in two thousand eighteen and although the members still are more likely to say he's doing a good job than bad that had really fallen to plus nine is the cooling off even from those who support him so. I think what's probably done that is the Brexit the issue which cuts Roy across the sort of left right divide Jeremy Corbyn digging go into politics to try and do brexit or stopwrecks is not something you particularly wants to be spending his time talking about. He wants to transform the economy and those issues that brutal. Rule those young men those into the Party and of course remember members extremely important they get the choice between the candidates for leaders they get the final decision about whether Jeremy Corbyn remains in his job but I think many of those people are quite remaining and under careful line that parties towed over the last three years since the referendum. I think probably alienated some of those people and giving more power to those members is incredibly important to Jeremy Corbyn. I mean I remember being in his office race with you. When we were doing an interview and he took us to the window and he looked over the river and he pointed out at the building where he said the Campaign for Labor Party democracy was born those are Jeremy Corbin's Roussin may campaign to give more voice to the members absolutely and it was the campaign of Tony Benn who was one of his great political heroes mental illness for many years and it's absolutely been part of his project is handing more power back to the members although interestingly of course host the members at very clearly in in a pro remained position and have been for some months and he's taken the leadership the front bench quite a long time to which towards that position so that's that sometimes made him look less than five party democracy than he's always seem to the past and maybe because of that gap between the members and Corbin? Some of his allies are pretty cynical about Tom. Watson's passionate remain position. Do you think he believes in it. I think he does believe in it. I think it's also an issue on which clearly clearly as we were saying the labor membership who are crucial determining who the party's leader is feel very differently to Jeremy Corbyn and not not in June with Jeremy Corbyn and so <hes> you know those around Jeremy we see it as believed that Tom Watson using this as a as a wedge as a way of separating the membership from the leadership and to be clear Tom Watson's position isn't just remain in a referendum on a Tory brexit. It's that Labor must simply be the party of remain yeah and it's he's sort of done videos where he said this position out with a sort of you know moving orchestra soundtrack future doesn't need to be Brexit we could change the future. Giving speech is talking about Labor's values are remain values that starts the kind of party that we are and it's interesting because homelessness to some extent stuck his neck out here but there were others in the shadow cabinet so we've taught mentioned case Dharma and Emily Hungry similarly have have been more vocally pro remained than than Jeremy Corbyn has been able to and this is one position in which there has even been divide between him and John McDonnell who's based in just a few yards down that corridor that you were describing to us at the beginning I mean is this the first sign of a kind of division at the top of the party. When I think that's been really interesting about brexit it's caused huge schisms in both main parties right but it comes across the traditional left right divide and it's not just about pressure from within Labor that you've been outlining? It's also about pressure from the Lib Dem's for example who have soared in the polls with a anti brexit exit strategy that it sounds like their new leader Joe Swinson is going to continue whatever it takes to stop brexit. Maybe the results about Labor has now shifted its position position. What's happened yes so there was a shadow cabinet meeting couple of weeks ago that signed off a new policy which the party's been edging towards? I think for quite some time in the wake of the European parliamentary elections which was a terrible night for labor polled fourteen percent of the vote Jeremy Corbyn started to say that he would like to see a referendum on whatever brexit dear wind up with. I think we do have a responsibility to listen to what everyone one has to say. A new tool that there is a an agreement made and that is then put to public vote that policies now being sort of formerly cemented and they've taken the next step which is to say in that referendum. Should it be called in the next few months on a Boris Johnson awesome deal for example we will come pain remain in that that felt like quite a big moment in terms of the sort of evolution of the party's policy of the last three years I mean her heart was that to stomach Jeremy Corbyn well. It's hard to know right because the has been an argument that that Jeremy was ready to make the shift sometime ago bought there were these advisers on the outside shameless and career and others who were resisting it very fiercely uncertainly brexit had become an issue that divided Jeremy Corbyn very very close allies so in he sort of Inner Circle Diane Abbott and John McDonnell who've been part of political project for decades. We're very keen to to move faster on this and to move to that remain position earlier into sort of staunch the cleaned within the party and move onto those other issues they would rather talk about but there were others who say it's absolutely jobe copen himself. It's nonsense flaming on the advisers. It's him who has been a as you say a lifelong eurosceptic never been keen on the project and actually would like brexit happened so he can get on talking about the issues he's really interested in but they have shifted they have got to that position of a referendum auditory brexit in which they'd campaign for remain has that put this too bad for Labor. No so it's pretty it's bad for now because even those who were quite open in vociferous in wanting to party to shift so for example the sort of young left-wing Labor M._p.'s who formed this group Love Socialism hate brexit you know sort of supporters Jeremy Corbyn who felt he was in the wrong place on this this. This line is compromised a satisfied them for the moment but it doesn't say anything about what Labor do in general election remember general election could come within months. It's quite likely to come within months so there we another fight come when the manifesto gets to not okay so we've reached the summer for Labor with the brexit headache slightly dimmed but that's certainly not the any problem they're facing at the moment tonight eight former Labor insiders break their silence on Mr Corbin's failure to drive out antisemitism. The recent Panorama investigation nation into antisemitism in the party was really bad news for them. What has been their response well so going back to this idea of there? Being a bit of a feeling of a bunker mentality labor she put out to response before the documentary even aired did and that was to directly attack the individuals who had been involved in making it. Some of their complaint was about the selective editing emails and so on an was absolutely some truth in that. I think the program did very carefully emails. Than US little snippets of sentences and things in a way that was journalistically perhaps questionable certainly an argument there but the thing they that they will probably did was to make very personal tax on these individuals to say they had political impersonal access to grind and we're trying trying to attack Jeremy Corbyn that provoked a real backlash among M._p.'s who watched it also among the trades unions you represent labor staff who felt personally attacking those people many of whom I mean they gave testimony in in any it saying that they had mental health issues as a result of having of working in there and how difficult it was and so on and I it grated a bit I think I mean certainly those around Jeremy Corbyn still say these people will come from a particular bit of the Party. <hes> it's a kind of coordinated attempt to undermine Jeremy Corbyn setting. He came quite aggressive. I think Labor responded after the program by saying the allegations came from disaffected former officials opposed to Mr Corbin's leadership will the whistleblowers alleged that Labor painted them as people who had falsely made militias representations. I mean these people talking about working conditions in the Labor Party and we found out that the Labor Party heard US nondisclosure agreements agreements and was threatening them for breaking them yeah indeed <hes> and in fact we know there's this formal starts to investigation going on by the Human Rights Commission at the moment and they have said that they're going to use their stature tree powers to sort of request that people give evidence and one of the reasons for that one of explanations for that is the then makes those NGOs as nondisclosure agreements not null and void. Let's be fair to the leadership they do except there's a problem in this week have stepped up efforts to for example speedup expulsions and they know the equality and Human Rights Commission investigation is serious but the has been this view. The antisemitism has been weaponized as a way of beating Jeremy Corbyn. Do they still think that yeah I think they do. Nobody's saying it doesn't happen and it's not a problem at all but this certainly a feeling the issue is being weaponized which you can say that's true to the extent that many of those who have spoken out very strongly about our the panel from Germany Corbin's wing of the party critics of his leadership of course the fact that something he's been seized upon all or weaponized doesn't mean he's not a problem and if we just beyond the antisemitism crisis and the brexit splits the are happening at the moment there is still this underlying ideological divide between what you might call Corbin is on the left and the centrists on the other wing of the party auty the left wing pressure great momentum may well have concerns with the leadership over both Anti Semitism brexit but it is still supporting members who want to de-select Anti Corbin M._p.'s what effect is that having on the party well the rules were changed at last year's Party conference and it was made easier to have to trigger ballot where unless you secure the support for certain proportion of your local membership and of your local trade union branches there is an open open selection which means that even if the M._p.. For five ten fifteen years anyone locally can sign up and can stand against you and seek to contest that seat so is it makes m._p.'s have to spend quite a lot of time thinking about the local party not membership and it makes them think twice look over their shoulder to their local membership when they're thinking about big political issues and you might think that's a really good thing because that's the vibrant social movement that Jeremy Corbyn wants to turn the Labor Party into a but you only have to look because the the Tories were you've membership choosing a leader who might be an rather different bit of political spectrum to the rest of the country to see that handing more power to parties membership can have unintended consequences and the Labor Party membership has changed dramatically. It has become massive. It has moved to the left. It's brought back in people who walked away under the Tony Blair years that means the Labor Party in two thousand nineteen is completely different to the Labor Party of ten years ago and yet narrow nowadays new divisions coming out if there is a leadership at all and it seems to me that a lot of people think that there might be I mean coppins not spring chicken even if he doesn't because of any of this controversy who are the kind of Labor M._p.'s who think that they could be a future leader. Well fear of them are more ways. I think on the left of the party there's people who often get talked about our Rebecca Long Bailey who's close of the leadership. She was shuffled instead of Emily Thumb Brita stand in for Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister questions quite recently that was seen as a sign. They were getting ready. Potentially there is no evidence they government takes they seriously ever Snowbo- Emily home break snappier absolutely emily herself is one of those people I think who would be on the job you know we have a great deal in common and the biggest thing that we have in common is that we we are labor. Say Shut Business Shadow Foreign Dahmer. I think brexit whatever outcome the next prime minister post before in must be subject to another referendum and there's a lot of talk about whether Jomo donal himself self with he's not that much younger than Jimmy Kuban there there are some issues about whether if it was felt there wasn't a left wing candidate to whom the project could be handed over in tax. Perhaps John himself would be a natural caretaker leader. Whenever we thought was in the interest of the nation to do so we've defeated the toys? Just Phillips is another one constantly hear rumors. She might be willing to challenge Jeremy Corbyn staple before I came here but I just met people olives gosh the Jerry Corbin's looking at its top table and seeing a lot people hang up his job. Yeah absolutely that's politics right God. I K now looking to the future. What did Jerry Corbin's biggest critics think he's going to happen? How do they see this unfolding? I think they hope ultimately those members even though many of them did come into the port party energized by Jeremy Corbyn his campaign in two thousand seventeen for example in the general election. I think they hope that some of those members drift away perhaps an are willing in to be open minded enough to consider a different kind of lead and not necessarily someone <hes> you know on on the device wing of the Labor Party on that they're very center of the political spectrum and indeed some of those candidates the Chucker Mnuchin Chris Leslie people we would would have been talking about in this context not long ago have of course drifted away elsewhere but you know I think this sort of Watson Nights. If that's the thing would like to see somebody a bit less left wing than Jeremy Corbyn and perhaps with the different leadership style taking over. And what about team Corbin I mean what do they hopeful well so those membership figures don't look as good as they did but they don't yet suggest that this is a membership all completely disenchanted and I'm willing to sort of Chunk Jeremy Corbyn over the side so I think they hope and believe that it's possible to reunite and re energize the Party wants. The brexit issue is dealt with another still up for the fight. I think they are on the on those issues. I think the brexit issue is being incredibly debilitating and difficult and it's being quite wearing I think and it's not something Jeremy Corbyn is particularly enjoyed dealing with <hes> I saw him bumped into him in the Glass Atrium in parliament where this coffee shop and other things an M._p.. Sort of hang out and I bumped into him the day of that shadow cabinet meeting when they signed off on the brexit compromise and he was back to his sort of twinkling lights cheerful south chatting patting people on the back and being very open in a way that I hadn't seen him for some weeks and months so so I think if they can get past this issue they'll be in quite a good place but you know I say this is brexit moment in British politics is an e got applaud inflec- somewhere when it's it's very hard to ignore heather. Thank you very much. Thank thank you that was this Jewett. The Guardians Brilliant political editor follow her reporting at the Guardian Dot Com coming up. He's arrived. I'm John and I'm sorry I li- T I lisette. We'd be happy if England won the World Cup but lost the ashes. It's not true I wanted all I know it's greedy but positioning the earn next to the World Cup of Ben Stokes's mantelpiece would make this the ultimate summer for English cricket so join Dennis on the spin as we turn ourselves into emotional wrecks all over again. It couldn't be as nerve wracking the World Cup final. Could the spin is supported by natwest now we've had day one of Boris Johnson's premiership with a visit to the queen followed by a lot of sacked ministers. So what type of prime minister will he be got in columnist. An observer chief leader writer on Your Soda. Soda gives us her take on his first speech. I have just been to see how Majesty the cream invited me to form a government and I have accepted like many Westminster watches. I've watched both Johnson given number speeches over for the is I'm for me. The speech he gave on the Septum Downing Street yesterday wasn't really up there. I think you can evaluate it. In two ways first of all in terms of the tone and secondly in times the content intent in terms of the tone of the speech boys Johnson use very classic Boris Johnson language. The kind of language might actually a journalist using more than Britain's new prime minister we had him talk about for example the doubters doomsters in gloomsters teamsters on so I'm standing before you today to tell you the British people those critics are wrong. The doubters doomsters the gloomsters. They outgained to get it wrong again. That's not really the sort of the tone of Gravitas that you might expect from a prime minister. We will say hurt him. These words like lubricate for example which I saw a lot of followers on twitter quite negatively to vigneault deal outcome we will have that it's lubrication of the thirty nine billion pounds so in terms of tone. It seems like Boris. Johnson couldn't just keep the classic Boris Johnson night out of the speech even more important than the tired I think was the content and for me. The weren't really any great surprises there. It would have been really shocking. I think if Boris Johnson had stood on the steps of Downing Street and said forget do or die actually are might need a bit longer to deliver brexit and he didn't go quite as far as Godi but he was pretty on ambiguous. He said no snow box Britain is gonNA leave the European Union Necessity Festival Taiba and I think he's reading making him self hostage to Fortune on that point <tone> <tone> the other area. It's really important speech part from Brexit is domestic policy again. They weren't actually very many big surprises here. It's all stuff voice. Johnson had trailed in the leadership contest interesting though we thought we might get some detail social care actual Boris Johnson did say I'm GONNA fix social care. I've got a plan for it and he sorta stopped last a quite similar to what he was saying. In breakfast kind of a bit like I'm Boris Johnson you need to trust me and he he promised a bit more extra funding from schools that has already been criticized by people in the education sector as going nowhere near far enough to plug the gap in schools funding that we've seen a prenup in recent months and years interestingly given how long we know Boris Johnson has wanted to be prime minister. The speech didn't come across to me like it was incredibly well thought through like had been crafted over a period of months. Perhaps when Boris Johnson was on the <unk> benches planning his ascendancy to Downing Street. It did sort of feel a bit more muted to me a bit more like maybe a last minute job I do wonder how Boris Johnson Willik back home they speech and cut months to come and I wonder he's promised a lot with very little detail in the speech and I do think he's going to come very seriously on stock in the coming weeks when it turns out he can't get a deal with the E._U.. He he can't get the deal that Theresa may negotiate with the probably three parliament. He's going to face the same very troubling parliamentary arithmetic that he's made it. I wonder if he will back and just saying maybe I should have struck a different tied with my space. I mean that would not be a Boris Johnson speech to make at all but I do wonder if he will back one day. I'm thinking well maybe if I took the chain slightly differently things could have been different. ooh That was sunny. Soda do read her column on the website that set for today my thanks to Stewart and Sonya Soda. Today's episode was produced.

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Pardon Me, Mr. President

"It's monday november thirtieth. I'm akilah hughes. And i'm aaron ryan. Filling in for gideon resnick in. This is what a day where we believe that every day is cyber monday because most of our human interactions are now just through computers. Yeah honestly this year has been a year comprised entirely of monday's every day is monday. Today is monday. Yesterday was monday. Tomorrow is also monday. We've all got a case of the mondays. Where all garfield and everybody else's jon arbuckle end normal. All we wanted was some lasagna and app but that never gets the half on today's show. We'll explore the last minute policies. That trump is trying to push through before january twentieth then some headlines but first the latest. And we'll start with corona virus which is still surging and expected to spike. Even more because of thanksgiving and yeah commensurate dumb assery which is causing some states and cities to take even more actions to restrict the spread before the break you get in. We're talking about. How new york governor andrew cuomo and new york city mayor bill de blasio were causing some confusion when they closed city schools due to a rise in cases. Well there's been another update that's right. Aaron so just yesterday de blasio announced that new york city elementary schools will reopen december seventh and parents will have the option to allow those children to go to school five days a week effectively abandoning the hybrid in-person remote learning system. That's been in place. Since the schools opened in september middle schools and high schools will remain closed for now but this is a major change at least for younger students from the previous system which determined whether schools would be open or remote based on the city's positivie remember god. I do not envy parents who have to deal with this right now. Not at all parents in new york city must have to wear neck braces from all of this like policy whiplash with schools. What a nightmare. The timing is interesting with all the warnings about covert surges now and into the end of the year. Why is de blasio. Making this move now. Yeah i mean it seemingly in response to a lot of criticism from the public that lawmakers aren't actually prioritizing kids and families but rather the economy of indoor and outdoor dining basically the reason new york city has seen cases go up and surpassed the three percent positivity rate threshold de blasios set for keeping the schools open hasn't really been traced specifically to the elementary school. So you know why. Punish them on them. And that's been the thinking in some other states. As well in rhode island for example schools will stay open as the rest of the states. Non essential businesses like jim's casinos in movie theaters. Go dark for at least the next two weeks starting today but one rhode island principal told the washington post that the main challenge has been having enough teachers to teach the kids at his school for students in zero faculty members tested positive for the virus but teachers who have been exposed outside of the school of had to quarantine sporadically to keep everyone safe in michigan. Elementary school students are still attending in person. Classes while older high school kids will be learning remotely because they are more likely to transmit the disease. And that's been leading to an exodus from public schools to private ones right. That's right so ever kids can go in person in the pandemic is where parents seem to want to send them this year. New york city public schools have reported thirty. One thousand fewer enrolments. La schools are down. Eleven thousand massachusetts lost thirty. Seven thousand students and wisconsin public schools lost about three percent of their student enrollment but just because school is private or religious. They will necessarily be allowed to remain open just yesterday. A federal appeals court upheld kentucky governor. Andy beshir's decision to halt in person learning at public private and religious schools until two thousand twenty one that ruling overturned a district judges temporary injunction. That would have allowed religious schools to continue having students meet for in person learning but regardless of those private schools remaining open or closing many officials fear that large numbers of students are actually just at home receiving no education and having no way to check in this matter is for the obvious reasons. Kids falling behind and learning has lifelong impact but also schools with your children get less funding from the government which could lead to a real education crisis down the road. So we're definitely going to keep following this but let's move on now to the presidential transition. Almost everybody agrees that on january twentieth. Joe biden will be sworn in as the forty forty-six president of the united states except for president trump. And the people who president trump pays to agree with him so erin. What's trump and up to during his lame duck session. yes it's true that donald trump has refused to utter. The words i lost or joe biden. Or i concede on thanksgiving. He did sit behind a teeny tiny desk and yell at reporters for several minutes. Though and at one point he told reuters reporter jeff that he was being very rude little boy for insisting that the election results are what they are a lightweight of the president of the ever talked to the president that way go with another visual this man sitting behind like my desk victims screaming about how. He's the president. You know it's enough to warm your heart. Donald trump clearly invented the phrase. My father is right like we could all that clan member. Yeah your dad that the other guy with the with the other people with the sheets on walking into your accident. He likes to remain anonymous. He believed in masks. It's true you raise an excellent point again. You raise an excellent point. Trump also gave a truly weird interview to fox news. Maria bartering yesterday where he accused his own department of justice and fbi of being complicit in allowing whatever massive voter fraud handed. Joe biden his victory dead people facebook twitter. They're all in on it. They're all in on it. He even accused mailmen of selling ballots selling ballots as though they were magazine. Subscriptions or vacuum cleaner parts in the nineteen fifties and continued to attack. Georgia's republican governor and republican secretary of state for refusing to reorder reality and make it so that donald trump georgia. I think that he might be confusing. Governor brian kemp with doctor. Strange from the vendors franchise. Yeah gotta say this is really really wild at this point. I mean if everybody's wrong doesn't mean you're wrong usually dude if everything smells like shit. It's probably your shoes. Good point fair. Well we keep saying this but his last-gasp efforts to challenge the election results have all failed and continue to keep. Failing results have been certified and georgia michigan pennsylvania and nevada in this week arizonan. Wisconsin are certifying plus. Trump's recount in wisconsin actually turned up more votes for biden which i believe is the opposite of one. That's hilarious though that is it is truly funny. It's a waste of money but it's a very funny waste of money. Yeah millions of dollars to find out even more people than you thought three million dollars for us to have this chuckle right now. Thank you so much for spending the money. It was worth it well. Despite all of trump's antics his action seemed to be a tacit acknowledgement that after january twentieth. They'll be changing the locks. The white house in trump will have to find a new rose garden to ruin. Good luck to her. That's right. Trump might not admit he's on his way out with his words but he's admitting it a little bit with his actions. In addition to the normal stuff lame duck presidents do like freeing-up transition funds for the next administration which finally happened last week. Trump is engaging in some classic lame-duck bullshit for example he's been trying to make regulatory changes to roll back. Environmental regulations loosened safety protocols for meat processing plants the famously safe meat processing during covert. We all know how safe meat processing plants are. I feel like maybe we should let these up little. Let's make them less safe. We've got room. He removed the us from a multilateral intelligence sharing treaty on open skies and destroyed the planes we use for the program. Just in case joe biden wanted to use those planes for that trump is also trying to make it more difficult for migrants to come to this country seeking asylum overall. The trump administration is trying to jam through thirty six new rules during his last weeks in office. It's real disney villain stuff but let's talk about how this compares to other administrations that were on their way out so we'll trump's rules are certainly more cruel than others and some would say more stupid. He's about average in terms of numbers. Most presidents try to make rapid last minute changes in order to their policy. Legacies and it seems like trump is just trying to come up the gears. Yeah but biden can undo all this yet. It's not as easy as the stroke of a pen. Unfortunately there's a really good propublica story that explains all of this which will link to in the show notes. But some of trump's rules have been so hastily written out there probably as riddled with mistakes as a sydney powell legal brief and we'll be left out of the courtroom like sydney depot. Legal brief but other stuff will take a while to fix. There's really no one doing all the damage trump and mitch. Mcconnell senate have done to the judiciary system There's still ramming judges through by the way instead of passing. Covert relief horrible. And it's going to take a lot of work to fuck fucker immigration system. You know akilah. Sometimes i wonder how much different our lives would be. If trump had worked even one tenth is hard to keep covert out of the us as he did to keep guatemalan toddlers out of the us. Yeah honestly it's fun to imagine. I mean if even if he didn't have any actual actions but just didn't like actively make it harder to stop the spread. Only if he wasn't just out here saying that masks fake how many more people would be alive. I mean he's a lazy man and it is easier to not sabotage than it is to actively sabotage like. He could have done less work and had a better outcome. Yeah that's how you know. He's a true idiot. Well another area. For trump right now is pardons just last week. He pardoned his former national security adviser. Michael flynn so who's next. Well let's not give them any ideas. So it's not totally odd for presidents to issue a lot of pardons during their lame duck session. Although going overboard is frowned upon and giving up pardons to people based on political favors is even more frowned. Upon to bill clinton for example turned a lot of people off when he gave out seventy six clemencies on his final day in office including one for his brother but when his donald trump ever felt shame when has been frowned upon ever been something that has made donald trump not wanna do something so far he has pardoned michael flynn who pled guilty for lying to the fbi twice and he's also got a lot of friends who do a lot of crimes like steve bannon and his His build the wall drifting organization that bought a vote that they got arrested by the post office. Yeah and he got arrested great story. Let's do that story story again. Just just for fun just for a victory lap think. The ship was called warfighter. Something stu hong loser oh man paul manafort another crime enthusiasts So i'm sure that there is going to be more pardons of very bad people in store but wait. We don't have to end unabashed note. Remember in just a matter of weeks. Joe biden will be the president and he's already building a team that is world's more qualified than the school bus full of eighty s teen movie bullies that trump appointed for example on sunday. He announced an all female communications team. Yeah i look forward to talking more about that later in the show and more this week because i am very very tired of talking about trump in particular. He can absolutely kickbacks hard same. And that's the latest. It's monday wads. Quite as i miss you guys well today. We're talking about gamers in politics this weekend. Congresswoman alexandria ocasio. Cortez did another livestream of the online game. Among us. with the leader of canada's left-leaning new democratic party jagmeet singh they were joined by representatives ilhan omar as well as popular streamers like hassan piker and pokey main and as hundreds of thousands watched they raise two hundred thousand dollars for food legal aid organizations in new york as we talked about before among us. It's kind of like the game. Mafia and to be really good at it. You have to be really good at lying. So aaron i question for you. Are you good or bad at lying to wingate's so first of all people who are truly good at lying never admit that they're good at lying. You always say you're bad at lying. 'cause like that's an opportunity to lie paradox. I'm a little more analog. I'm a little bit more of a balderdash person than i am. An among us person. Wow i have no idea what balderdash is. I've heard the word. But if i couldn't tell you it's a game for nerds where you come up with definitions to obscure words and you try to trick people into thinking the real definition. I would lose that just. Because i don't know i'm not gonna investigate if that's what you say it is fine and then i'll use it wrong and then i'll be mad at you. It's a it's a really fun game. You really only need a dictionary. A few nerds and some index cards. But i'm pretty good at balderdash. I'm bad at other lying games. Like poker My face just can't be tamed. But i think that. I'm i think i'm about average lying as part of gamesmanship. Same question for you akilah okay. Well i believe that. I am okay. So like specifically in among us. I am terrible and i think it's because it is such a fast paced game like you can like lie and poker with your eyes and just sort of like you know ease into it. No one's rushing you but with among us the moment somebody finds a dead body. You're just on the spot and what were you doing. And i'm like doing besides killing doing make something up to like. I was doing a task. We haven't seen. I don't know like i think i'm bad at coming up with like a convincing. Live right you know like with poker. It's like your cards are good or bad. The michael they could be good right. Who's to say that's more of a like philosophical question I don't assign value to these. But like anytime i'm really put on the spot. I think that it's i'm just gonna start laughing as i do. In all cases and people were pretty quick to be like. We're voting you out. It's also bad. Because i like literally get voted out. I'm innocent in among us. Because i start laughing. I think he wants to tear me like are you joking. Yeah just don't get it. That's that's a bad tick. If you're trying to fool people into thinking you're telling the truth also truth be told. I haven't played among us yet. I've wanted to. But i keep confusing among us with the last of us which is oh in-depth. That's like a real video. Gets up very serious and amazingly well rendered video game. That is really really sad. And so i'm like why are all these people getting together in streaming this video game above about a girl with the dead family. Like why is this happening but Also soon to be a show. I think the last. Oh wow yeah. I think i heard that i mean i just think among us just the you know the one pixel very cheap looking. We're all little jelly beans. Sometimes you can put on different outfits you difficulties and super simple jelly being an outfit. I didn't know they were outfits. Okay yeah. I dressed as an astronaut. Which is the only right costume because your space but other people can be a cowboy. You'd be pumpkin. gosh. I wanna be a space pumpkin. Who does murders. I think that sounds somebody who's listening. Make that photoshop among his character. That's aaron space plunking. Did that is the pasta. That's doing murders. i think. That sounds great. That sounds very fun. 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Communications director reports have also circulated who will fill out biden's team which is expected to announce this week likely appointees include obama's federal reserve chair. Janet yellen as treasury secretary princeton labor economist. Cecilia rouse as chairwoman of the council of economic advisers and near attendant longtime adviser to hillary clinton president of the center left. Think tank the center for american progress and dangerously prolific poster as director of the office of management and budget. Topping this off. Cbs is reporting. That the biden's will bring a cat with them to the white house. Wow the lead in. This story was buried at the most important thing. The cat is coming to the white house. Choosing a fancy cat in a bow tie would make the party's left-wing absolutely furious. Say put a bernie or bust shirt on that cat and let the catch run around mad at you because you put a shirt on it. I think everyone will be happy right. I think it's definitely a we need more loose cannon animals in the white house hundred percent get a ferret in there yes. Well tensions rose between israel and iran after the assassination of iran's senior nuclear scientists on friday. Most inflec- rosado is believed to have led iran's military nuclear program until it was disbanded in two thousand three and was subject to sanctions by the trump administration. He was shot near the capital. But details are still sketchy. State media pointed to a team of five or six gunmen in one report and a remote controlled machinegun and another the killing still under investigation. But iran's leader was not shy about accusing israel which has put that country on alert for a possible military response in the next few days experts. In the us including senator bernie sanders called the assassination. A move to undermine relations between the us and iran just as biden begins to transition into the white house. Trump's administration was responsible for creating what analysts called the worst era of us iran relations and forty years but many relations will improve if biden follows through with his promise rejoined the iran nuclear deal. I feel like i already saw. All of this happened in season for of homeland. And if you haven't seen homeland listeners. It doesn't end well for us. It is not not a good conclusion season. Four of homeland. Tens of thousands of people across france came out over the weekend to protest a newly proposed security law that would put a restriction on filming police officers. Police repeatedly fired tear gas into the crowds in paris on saturday. Even though the mood was largely peaceful aside from some demonstrators set fire to the country's central bank. Okay that is not minor if passed. The law would criminalize publishing images of police officers with the intent of causing harm as punishment. People could face up to a year in jail and a fine of over fifty thousand dollars civil liberties groups say the new proposal will take power away from the media and allow police abuses to go undiscovered. This all comes just days after video service of police officers beating michael a black music producer in paris. The officers responsible have since been suspended. Well we can't wait for them to be fired. America's favorite big steel beam in the desert the utah monolith disappeared this friday after capturing the country's attention for about a week. If you didn't hear about the monolith here are the basics was a ten to twelve foot tall three-sided piece of metal discovered in. Utah's red rock country by the states. Wildlife agency the objects remote location plus its lack of any attribution led some to speculate. It was the work of aliens who also brought us. The egyptian pyramids the aztec cities and anything not built by modern white. People ended on friday though when someone loaded the monolith onto a truck and took it away one hiker who was at the scene soon after said quote all that was left in its place was a message written in the dirt that said by bitch with a fresh peace day and right next to it. How fresh could it be in the desert. I've accused this guy. People definitely puzzle over the strange outerspace message for decades for me. I think it means by which Akilah i was just in utah for two weeks and i was near canyon. Lands the part of canyon lands where they found the monolith. And i'm not saying that. I did it but i'm not saying i didn't do it either. Yeah it feels a little on brand for you. I feel like if i had this jeopardy like by bits was written by this podcast. Next to a monolith that i'd be like what is who is if i did it if you think that's the book you're going to put out it's the sequel as well those are the headlines a quick heads up before we go. 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Episode 2  What You Must Know About Using the Latest Technologies   With Sheila Cuffari-Agasi, AIF and Aaron Spradlin

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45:15 min | 2 years ago

Episode 2 What You Must Know About Using the Latest Technologies With Sheila Cuffari-Agasi, AIF and Aaron Spradlin

"Wealth management dot com presents success zone podcast etiquette. Into bringing financial advisers sweeping insights beyond the market headlines to help them become more savvy about the industry transform their practice. Enhance their marketing skills and take their business to the next level. Listen in for a wealth of information that includes remarkable success stories and expert advice from the industry's key players and most successful skilled financial professionals. Elon welcome. You're listening to the success zone from wealth management dot com. Advisors need faster and more efficient account opening processes workflows that keep the office informed of progress and are required to keep all of his client data secure an environment full of choice that seems to become more complex by the day tech savvy advisors become enamored by the new options justified out, they're not compatible with their current systems. Or maybe the vendor is a great fit, but as soon acquired by third party with different motives after dedicating tremendous due-diligence and integrate. Efforts. How can an adviser remained starkly independent while tapping into turnkey? Technology offerings that work. Well together have ongoing due-diligence performed for them and work in conjunction with the common goal of making the adviser more efficient. We're gonna discuss this things like digital account opening securing your data through more cyber secure solutions and information on best in breed vendors, and to do that we have Erin Spradlin, the vice president CEO of United planners financial services and Sheila covari Agassi the executive vice president of the United planners both have over twenty five years of industry experience and have been with United planners for over ten years. So today, we're going to do kind of a question and answer session with these two experts, and I'd like to greet them. That's right now. Good afternoon. How are you getting very well? Hello, Eric great to meet jerick looking forward to talking today. Yeah. Absolutely. I know you have a tremendous amount of experience in a lot of knowledge. I want to jump right in you guys running Rennie airman wreck this towards you. We we really spoke. To Sheila last time. How did you become passionate about the subject of technology that advisor uses to run their practice? This interesting when you mentioned the word technology, as I'm not really, I'm not a fan of technology as much as technology used the purposes of solving business problems or business solutions. My passion really is about my years of industry experience serving financial advisers and really coming to a firm that was dedicated to meaningful solutions meaningful business practice solutions. And so, you know, it was obvious unity to bring together Crips Lucians that were operational as well as procedural as well as technology driven. So tech n applied common sense applied sense. And so it's really that technology is just one of many tools that should be used by an advisor or anybody in the industry to solve in it meet the needs out there, and so uniquely have. A lot of technical skill. And and I see that technology can be used to to solve many problems. That's where Mike site with technology comes from. And it's a lot of it is just kind of looking outside of the way things have always been done and looking at new ways to apply that commonsense. And. Bring solutions to advisor so through technology. So they're not really technology solutions, but business solutions through the adoption of technology. So let me ask you this. Why should advisors refrain from building their own tech stack per se? It seems that independent advisors really saw this as the norm and a way to differentiate themselves to their clients. You know, it's it's interesting how, you know, building your own tech stack is definitely something that in the fintech community became very popular. A United planners was very much at the forefront of supporting that initiative. The reality was things have changed. And there's some realities we have to face today. Such cybersecurity cost of ownership change in the market of round acquisitions in in. So as a small business. There was a promise in the fintech community that somehow these vendors are low cost Lucians with high features. We're going to integrate deeply meaningful way on behalf of these small businesses and deliver enterprise solutions, and while that was definitely initiative the results have been less than I would say most businesses have been looking for which is why firms like the firm, we're with United planners has been successful is because we really focused in standing. The gap between those integrations to make them meaningful in. So there was a promise that was out there that was I think undelivered in now with the new cyber security challenges as well. As just the changes that are happy neck was in some of the cultural changes that are happy in the market that are making it really hard as a small business to stand out on your own technologically. Owning your own tech stack. I I think that's maybe a so that will never come to pass Cher. Well advisors want to provide very specialized services to their clients. And utilization of technology is a way for them to really differentiate themselves in the marketplace on the challenges they're faced with these thinner margins and heightened security requirements now, the ongoing diligence that's required by the regulators is is just impossible on these thin margins tackle on their own questions. Interesting because I don't think they should refrain building their own. Brand they should refrain. From is thinking that, you know, the brand means that they also have to be able to own the integrations all the technologies in technologies will work by themselves without investing a significant amount of money in making sure technologies work. So I think that's the hidden danger. Is of course, vendor will go in present that they do integration. But does that integration actually work for your business model because it work in the way that you really wanted to work in his orchids scale? Does it make you more efficient train the advisors need to be more efficient? They need to use their time more wisely. They their clients demand automated account opening processes and ease of doing business if books in record keeping in a more automated fashion, so if technology can solve a lot of those problems, but you know, the challenges advisors building it on their own at just it's very expensive. Better than time consuming. I mean, they they've gotta learn all of that on their own and try to incorporate that, and I know that you spoke to a little bit but digital account opening has been discussed for years. You're also kind of sounds like you're losing a little bit too robo advisors or even the electron signature or the concept of moving from forms from the open opening process and replacing them with live data. Is that kind of what I'm hearing. What I'm talking about is, you know, how an advisor runs their practice in how they want to operate. So do they want to be somebody? That's completely open architecture host at multiple custodians, do they want to be a closed architecture. Do they want to open counts often insurance companies as well as many mutual fund companies or do they wanna hosted all one place in how does that play into your brand? How can you scale that? And when you're a small business, how are you going to manage them in digital count opening? I think is a an inflec-. Point where you get to the core of scale. So if you're going to run your business as an open architecture is where you want. There's a cost of ownership is a cost to doing business that comes with that. Now when you see the innovations that are happening say Roble or digital count advice platforms. They're really about who's gonna create the best experience. The best engagement experience with the alternate. Consumer that these visors are wanting to serve as so there's a mass amount of money and competition going to create that experience, but experience is driven a lot by also how the visor builds their their own practice and their own brand. And it's very complex equation between independence and your ability to have a enterprise tech stack that can meet your needs. So for example, when get to digital count opening is you gonna have that digital expr-. Be driven by one custodian or do you want that digital experience driven by your broker dealer? And now, the yearly can't leave that broker-dealer. Are they center the verse did a fundamental question? We use his term a lot Sheila is who's the center of the universe? And I think from United planners perspective on my perspective, the visor in their businesses this universe. Our job as a firm to help deliver the automation and back office capabilities. So they can run the business the way they want which agree. Absolutely. Yes. So that's really how we've positioned ourselves. I think a lot differently than some of the other issues in the space and even some of the RIA servicing agents out. There is the fact that that we don't see ourselves as center of the universe. We've worked to make the advisors more efficient on the platform in which they choose to do business and we've done this by taking fiduciary approach with the advisers are expectations. That they are fiduciary to their client, and they have an open architecture environment to be able to choose from a number of different historians in the the more. This custodians are able to compete against one another the more the clients win. And that just helps drive costs down whereas other firms have chosen one particular custodian in often cases, actually or likely a clearing firm, which is adds an exorbitant amount of cost to the client and to the adviser doing business on that platform. But yet, then they're found they're hamstrung, you know, an an attached to that custodial fundamental practice management is really the decision of who's your client. What are their expectations which are brand in our job is a stand in the gap to make sure that that that the promises of the technology the promises of the platform of chosen that we can help empower it and make sure it meets the needs that you you want versus us Bill. Being a model that we make the independent advisor fit into now independent adviser because he's independent thinking independent models or is a model out there for firms at wanna work on a single platform. We'll get into this later like schwa- or other from the United capital out there that are meant to serve a market, but we have a very specific market very specific brand that we have that. We're trying to serve trying to serve it. Well. -solutely in when it is created by a firm whose meant to serve many advisors. We can keep up as technology evolves. And changes over time. We've already seen the iphone launch thumbprints and retina scans and a different type of indication process. And when you've got, you know, one firm really focused on standing in the gap and serving those needs for underlying advisors as the authentication process continues to evolve that firm can evolve as technology, and and authentication vaults. True. Yeah. In regulatory scrutiny. Absolutely a total. Geek, when it comes technology love, the idea that a love just the the idea of advancing that movement all areas, but I've worked with advisors specifically for many many many years, and I love the idea. However, it's a little scary. Right. I mean, that's that's just like you said the last comment you made was. Regulatory bodies. That's that's the scary comment. So what are some of the challenges with launching this type of advancement today? They're quite a few challenges. I'm gonna go through someone. So today is the amount of choices the market is rich with choice, but that that is his own cost of ownership. So the more choices you have the hardest to differentiate between those choices in the more cost and making those decisions. More importantly, the amount of change, you know, in this echoes everywhere, these advisers whether regulatory change or technology change now cyber security requirements that the velocity continues to increase, especially in financial services, a fantastic technologies. The velocity of change is making it really hard to take on and grow in the market today. So launching today typically means as an adviser picking a platform picking space or joining this ding firm is really hard to come in the market day. Bill Jones tech stack deliver in differentiate yourself in the market. In stay up with what's happening, which is I would say when the bigger challenges I see going on today. More choice means more cost more risk one of things. I would see within as sheila's that a lot of these new startups are venture base startups. And adventures bay starts means that are they really aligned with our culture are your venture base. But you're a long term relationship based company, then you're picking something your tech stack that is designed to sell and how can you predict in roll your business off of that? And when you're only paying them twenty five dollars a month, two dollars a month of service. They're really you're not in control that relationship. So I think that's the fundamental. Let's call it the contract the social contract between the fintech community, and the advisors serve is that these are not enterprise contracts, and they are contracts based on wishes. Month to month. And as you see the market today. There's been some pretty big sales of some very big firms and acquisitions, and if you built your tech stack off of that, it's it's a challenge. I actually wanted to step in and give Aaron Atanas credit here with what's been accomplished by United planners. It's been done with a lot of forethought a lot of relationship building making sure that we were working with best in breed vendors, I understanding what that long-term objective was of each one of these providers. And like you said standing in the gaps earlier in we know as an organization because of the brilliant coming directly from Aaron that we can do anything, but we can't do everything not. Well, anyway, so we really have to hone in as an organization understand what we're delivering how we are serving the community in the best most Galeb away. But all the while the more information relay that. Occurs between these vendors the higher the need to have good cyber security policies. And I would say that that's one of the real challenges that we're continuously faced with is. You know, understanding what security measures are in place with each one of these vendors more vendors that have access to your clients N P. I the higher risk is carried that there could be a breach and we've seen this with their party vendors. So ultimately, the final risks that she speaking to is that from where regulated industry, we have obviously, it's a stadium most obvious thing. But as regulated industry, the fundamental design has been that the adviser the regulated entity owns their business, they own their data, and they're responsible for that native in the only mechanism to address that is directly through the small business. The adviser by the regulator. They don't regulate the vendors. The advisers us so this model it's to put the pressure on the regulated entity to regulate the vendors will that that is a very complicated in unsolvable problem in. So that's way, alternately challenge down the visor has to realize that, you know, the same owner paperwork in pieces of paper where they store it. And how they send it off to be shredded in how they send it off to be stored is the same way the regulars expect that piece associate data you just put in a vendor to be managed, and it's your responsibility as visor not their responsibility to do that from a regulatory as well as a legal in potentially other frameworks. And so that is the challenge we face is because we are in a small business market, medium sized business market, large enterprises that are regulated own their technology stacks. They own their data centers. They own the pipe. P- they own all of it. And that's how they're able to meet the Aram the aggregation even if they outsource it. Or they use cloud. They are able to do it through private cloud in different technologies where we as an industry have moved out of a loss play to bring up low cost high feature, but that is has its own challenges as an industry we have to start to address. So what I really see is that many advisors, especially independent advisors. Just don't even understand how many ways their client data is at risk. Whether it is their own Sierra m- their notes, their aggregation softwares, the DSP visions of the world that data is at risk in so many different areas. And ultimately, the regulators have an expectation that they are responsible for that the safety of that information. So what are the regulators to boil down? What are the regulators expecting that? Araya's and hybrid advisors do to protect that client data because from what I've seen working advisers the cost is tremendous. I mean, it's ridiculous and requires at least full-time specialist just in that area that will certify attest to the security of the data and that that's problematic. That's the hidden cost of all of this decision that we made the hidden costs that we kind of walked ourself into his industry was not realizing that vendor diligence in particular is a high cost of envisages not picking something, but understanding from a regulatory perspective their security posture. Understanding the rules at your under are those vendors adhering to your regulatory rules in. So for example, in YDF is a very popular one out there, and they have very specific requirements put on you the advisor those requirements extend to your vendor. And that's the expectation that I think we're starting to get clear understanding of his industry they have specific requirements run the advisor in their own office in their own devices. But those extent here vendors also these vendors are serving regulated industry. They I think this is the piece of the puzzle that the thought leaders in industry had started to come together to try to solve in the clever partnership was one of those partnerships between thought leaders like TD, Ameritrade, retell technology risk allies in Orion. United planners financial services are firm and others such as jolt broken steam, Paul to Berg, and Brian Ataman and many others. If I didn't mention their name that they don't get mad at me, but came together to say, well, the sounds like a problem that not each advisor can solve individually or vendor can solve individually. What thought leadership can we put together as an industry Jimmy come up with a standardized you. Diligence process that vendor can adhere to that. Would let them know that they're meeting the regulatory requirements as well as best practices one of the requirements. We can put for the advisers, they know that they're meeting the minimum standards in not minimum standards for the perspective of not achieving best practices, but best practices without overdoing it because small businesses for protecting their business client formation. What can we do to put all that on a faster more secure network? And so that's where the clever dome coop came from was distinctly address. What you just said. Which is the seems like something that that needs to be addressed as a community on based on standards and best practices and a common solution to bring economics of it in line. With is that we're in, you know, Aaron you hit on early Aries. You broke down in talked about the analogy of shredding, and the fact that the regulators have the expectation that you treat your. Your online information the same way as you would with your shredded materials or your physical materials, I'll take that just a step further and say physical security should equal cybersecurity. Everyone's got a key to their front door. Let's talk about our offices, right? You've got many locked filing cabinets. You've got a lock on the front door. You've got an alarm system. You're notified immediately. If that alarm system is triggered by a servicing agent. So you have to have all of those same steps. Now, they look very different in the cyber security realm. But it's that same basic process of being notified if there is an event and then having a police report. But if they cybersecurity report a lot of people really quite their risk factor based on their geographic region. There are people throughout the United States it still keep their front doors open because it's a very low crime area. Unfortunately with cybercrime. There is no geographic target. In fact, the smaller. You are in the smaller town that you're in the lower your current security requirements may be and therefore the easier a target. You have made yourself the cybercriminals are all over the world, and they don't have to leave the confines of their own home or office in order to hack into your system. So the security of thinking, you know, I'm in a small town and just service my local community. And fortunately that that puts even more at risk. So we as a firm like be solution based not fear based. And so that's why we were really excited to be part of the community bringing the clever dome concept to the discussion because as visors and they look at these challenges. I understand that most advisers, listen, this podcast will think Tim sells. Well, look, there's ten thousand users on the platform. I'm using you know, there's some protection in being in the crowd. And I understand that. But there's also the reality that win the breach happens of that vendor. The cost to you is probably going to be rated than most understand. So the fundamental thing. Regulars expect advisors do is engage in risk management and have a risk policy understanding of what they're doing in the cost of that. So I want the one of the advisers on this call to understand if there is a breach. There's expectation you're gonna end up changing the account numbers, even that's even just got account numbers. That's it didn't get all the quote, unquote MP. I if your client's account numbers are out there that's enough for a hacker to call up to one the custodians and try to use it as a way of getting in the system in. We know for fact that in the past you've had a change all the accountants net that has impact cost to you. And the custodian there is other impact recent reach of a firm out. There was just all they took. The names in the Email addresses that was used by the dark web to correlate that information to people's other passwords, and we're able to use that to breach the platform. And so this idea that well, it wasn't the social security numbers. That's no big deal is a miscalculation of the true risk management. I think that's the more fundamental problem in that's where firms like our stand in the gap is we have a professional risk management team with a professional cease oh team in and technology folks to to engage in that risk management decision to help bring the solution at scale to visors the advisers can keep their costs down the idea you're gonna be out there in an island by yourself solving. This I think is where we started this conversation. It's one thing to pick the technology stack and that has its own risk discuss that the second cost to do the diligence by think cyber security is the. The deal killer because that is really where you talk about insurance and risk management. And if and when it goes wrong, by the way, we've had many breaches recently. Now, we not. Those the industry has. Yes. The main breaches win it goes wrong. That's when the second guessing, that's when the regulatory scrutiny increases, and that's when the fines go up, and so that's we've been seen in the industry. Order to continue to see that the near future earn you said that you guys really want to focus on solutions and not fears. But again, it can be pretty scary. So what is the easy answer? How does it advisor? Go about protecting themselves. Well, three options, maybe couple more. But one is if you're on a custodial platform that's out there, you may want just consider using everything that they're providing you in entrusting their capability to you may want to join one of the larger firms that are out there that have technology stacks. They prebuilt for you. And you can use your practice in that's probably acceptable risk three. I think is firms like United planners that are willing to stand in the gap in Lao. You to have a little more of independent model, but yet helped facilitate in Mansell's costs netter option I've seen out there. Third party money managers that have built out platform. So that's the majority of answers today is you're gonna have to rethink what it means to from a technology perspective, in my opinion to own your technology because the cost of ownership is I think far exceeding the reality of most investment advisers to own their tech stack without some partner. An invest net a United planners, the United capital, Schwab, TD Ameritrade. Standing in the gap or or Ryan in a platform. So that's that's my observation about the market today that you know, she would you had anything else to add to that. I would. I mean, the first step is really educate yourself be prudent. Be informed. Hire professionals advisers are really good at what advisers do and some of them some of their bandwidth, you know, based on the size of their staff can extend well beyond you know, your typical visor if you will. But you need professionals to walk alongside you in this area because unless you dedicate a tremendous amount of your time staying up with the latest trends, and how hackers gaining access. It's just it's impossible to to do it on your own. So as the chief of mission security, officer CIO at United planners. I'll tell you what matters most to us is customer service and our. Ability to create a great brand. And we are outsourcing a lot to really great platforms out there. So I think as an adviser they don't think they should fear not owning their tech stack. Because really what's what differentiates them in the market, at least in my opinion than I've seen the success ones out there companies with great brands, great customer service and a great team around them. That are also as a cowboy ethic says a writing for the brand. And so I think that there's you know, we don't have to fear the fact that you can't make all of your fintech integrate on your own. I don't know if that's really where advisers should be focusing our energy Amaya Pinon in if I were to give advice when visor day. That's what I would say is join one of these really great platforms in find a way to differentiate yourself most the biggest brands out there. That's the way they seem to really ultimately differentiate themselves in the market. Absolutely. I've been taking notes on some of the things you've been saying to to. Here Sheila, you said something that was just absolutely beautiful. I agree with hundred percent. He said, you know, what have the adviser bring in the professional? So they don't have to learn this and do all this. It takes a team to really effectively do it and get it accomplished. And it's so funny because that's exactly what an advisor should be thinking about or telling a potential client of theirs because sure client can go out and do all their own investing and trading and so on and so forth, but they would have to spend all that time learning everything the adviser knows to be able to do it as a family if they could even reach that point. And I think it's the exact same correlation between them utilizing a team instead of having to do everything themselves. They just don't have the time to do that. So I think that was a great example. And then Air New you said something earlier that I'm not familiar with and forgive me for this. But you mentioned clever dome. I think right clever dome. That's crack clever this cracked what is clever though. Yeah. Great question, so clever dome is just like what you mentioned was a lot of people. Coming together to try to solve a problem on behalf an adviser. It's as a as an entity clever dome was organized as a benefit corporation. It said the benefit it was describing was to take consumer information off the open internet. It was designed to be. So as a benefit corporation lot of advisors in the call about benefit corpse, but benefit corpse are becoming very popular in the market. Because what you do is you Claire public benefit in the board of directors is a fiduciary to that public benefit. Now, why that matters in this case is we are trying to ensure that the organization that we are all going to join the benefit Corp is a fiduciary to what we want them to do which is protect consumer information. So the way they've been described as for profit nonprofits, they are a very unique organization and within this organization. We did is we created a cooperative. Now, why this matters to the advisors isn't allows the vendors to meet a due-diligence standard under the club. Oh model and enjoying the co-op and by joining the cooperative. It allows us to do one due diligence standard and share that due-diligence standard among the other members of the co op, and so this is a way for the vendors to save money by not having to answer so many different questionnaires and knowing their question, they answered sufficient for many entities and two for the advisors to save money because they can rely on this cooperative that they've joined in order to adhere to that standard too. So it's a legal framework. It's a way frozen industry to to start to solve this shared assessment. It's very akin to I think in the market of the credit cards of Piecyk compliant. And so we're trying to make a PI compliant cloud away of all of us a hearing to a standard in knowing that we're. Are all under that standard, and you can trust that standard. Now that standard is even made more important by the fact that we're actually using a very high speed secure network is network is available to the adviser community now to communicate with their vendors that have joined under a very fast and a we use word today. Intelligence grade security, sexy military grade security, but even enough that it would make it hard for even intelligence agencies to know what's going on within the network. So it's a really fast really secure network with a common due diligence standard. And then ultimately always said was as an industry would like advisers who are part of this or other people who are part of this to us secure devices the technical term for what this is. If you read Gartner on your into nerd stuff like that. This is the world's first Soffer defined perimeter. Suffered a fine perimeters a technical term for. A new environment. Anew, cloud that is private secure and available to take information off the open internet. And so as an industry where we're looking to move ourselves towards this direction. At least that's the model. Here's the most important thing when these vendors join this co-op there joining a benefit corporations fiduciary to the consumer crates alignment, it creates a self regulation of the vendors at serve our industry with the advisers that they're serving because he advisers today are fiduciary to the consumer they should know that the vendors are working with are willing to meet a minimum standard, and it here enjoying a cooperative. That is also a fiduciary to the consumer. So it's a very unique model that we worked on as a community that allows us to increase performance decrease cost and create better Lyman between the vendors that are. Serving us and the community that they're serving. So that is what clever dome is all right. Well, that was very clear. I appreciate that. And it kind of reflected a little bit. What you said earlier. I'm kind of hearing theme here that the adviser themselves. They're responsible, right? They own it. It's it's on them to make sure that everything is accuser. And and everything's regulated. If you will and the industry itself is very highly regulated. But I'm hearing that you're saying that the vendors that serve the advisors here. The technology vendors there isn't one set standard at all. Is there? Do they have any standard that are set by the regulatory bodies at all for them to do business now in there in lies the greatest challenge we face which used to describe as the unsolvable challenges. The only way regulators were able to even address this challenge was to regulate or over-regulate our industry as proxy to get the vendors to align with. Consumer protection. And the reality is most vendors today that are in fintech. Don't even have a chief information security officer on staff. Let alone meet the regulatory requirements now, I'm not saying they're not secure. I'm not saying they're not doing their best to be secure. But some of these are coming out Silicon Valley twenty year old kids in I'm sure they have the best intentions world. But there is no standardized regulatory framework for them to know that they're actually meeting our requirements like NY DFS or California or state laws. So creating a body entity that can create that standard that the vendors can then show that there are at least meeting that standard. It is a very fundamental advancement for security and consumer protection to bring that same concept a PI compliant, but bring it to fintech in and help advisors know that the vendors are at least meeting best cyber security as well as. Story as estate privacy protections on their behalf in only strong as your weakest link right as as we look back of couple years ago. Now that target was breached. It was by one of their vendors on their security was up to par, but it was through a breach of one of their vendors which ended up being their weakest link. So full disclosure on that I am the co founder as one of the members of that. And today, they give me the title chief visionary officer, which basically means it's just my job to come with really, great ideas. But it's a lot of other people's job to make them reality. So the idea was we as a firm when able to afford to do all this diligence we as a firm when able to afford a home private network with a firm when not able to solve these problems our selves, and so which the community said can we solve this together? And so that's what this is about is community effort to bring faster private networking with all advisers can. Have access to type of technology that a Bank of America has access to or a, you know, a larger I want bake America loan. But I mean, any of these large very wealthy of finalists to Sion's have capabilities and resources far beyond our wealth management industry. And we're trying to democratize that the big difference between us and dam is the fact that they say in a what are associated visors can stay in the bike lane. Right. I like to use the freeway as a comparison. Whereas in our world, there's a five lane highway, you get to choose which technology vendor within the approved list of firms that have completed and complied with due-diligence standard. You get freedom of choice within those vendors and the larger wirehouse type organizations that everything's conducted within their own private network really limits choice. You get the choice of using option a or option right as higher security, less cho-. Choice. We're hoping for a lot of choice, and we're actually more secure and faster. So there is a real attempt to be at democratization Cyprus security because it is something that should not be on the back of each small business in the United States merica, and then of course, United planners gets the real benefit because the chief fishery officer of clever dome works with us here at United planners those bonus. Nice. So she'll I know that we spoke a little bit about on the last podcast. And I would encourage any listener that's hearing what we're saying today to go back and listen to sheila's podcast. It was fantastic. Can you just tell us a little bit more about United planners role and how they're helping their advisers what you guys are doing shares? So United planners is an independent broker dealer and RIA firm, very uniquely structured as a limited partnership. We're located in Scottsdale Arizona, we have about five hundred or so row roughly advisors and nationwide and really see our objective where we're very different from the traditional broker dealer model is to stand in the gaps to empower advisors to be as efficient as they can possibly be to have open architecture low cost environments for their clients while providing all of the infrastructure that they need to have a great technology stack to be cyber secure and compliance. We see our role as empowering the adviser success and helping make sure that they stay at a trouble. We run pointing and provide a lot of infrastructure in supervision. We automate a lot of the compliance necessities for them. And you know, this is just one of those other gaps that we stood in and as we started, brainstorming ideas. How do we make the adviser more compliant in where we're about to see a whole new set of enforcement action in the range of cybersecurity? So we wanted to stand in that gap. Make sure that the advisers had a good solid foundation because we understand the reputational risk the fines and the cost of remediation of a cyber security breach. I mean, frankly, one incident can cost the adviser their entire business. We were providing cyber security insurance vendor diligence device monitoring secure network faster than be PIN the insurance the one thing we're really focused on their in this ties back into clever dome. Also was making sure that we had insurance that was enforceable. Because one of the challenges with insurance is when it happens, you're going to build enforced insurance policy because if there's something the adviser did not do or there's some way than any lack neglect the insurance companies as we know, we all love our insurance companies. But if they don't if there was a major breach the question is is there a protocol is your way to stand behind an insure that they're going to pay out on the insurance United planners, focus, very heavily on building on model that we could show through private network game to accommodate diligent standard. Do these different models at our insurance could stand if there was something that happened at one of our? Vendors 'cause we did everything that was required of us got it. Yeah. That's that's great. I mean, that's that's what everybody needs. So let me ask you this. Are there any closing thoughts for today's podcast? My my closing thought is just to encourage the advisors to continue to primarily look to as you said earlier thought leaders, I think that is many consultants that are out there, and they're all amazing consultants. And so if you are a while also. Right. But they're really their lottery out there that really specialize in vendor due diligence and helping advisors grow their practice. Encourage him to do that. That's that's still a viable business model. But I think more importantly to start really rethinking the concept of owning your own technology, stack in a few are going to do that to start to look at partners like United planners that are out there in the market that have developed technology and business solutions that are designed to help empower your independence. So if that's what you're committed to where the right kind of brand. But if you're really not committed to that you want to really look other, you know, models the other choices like Ryan and platforms are out there goes single platform. It's an option, and you know, I just encourage advisors to maybe rethink last four years and look of the next three to five years in realize that the Las change will increase innovation of fintech. Community will increase dramatically. And they may wanna start looking to pick a partner that's going to help to take on those challenges in bear that burden with them. So if there is an adviser just listening to this in their thinking, okay. Next week five years. I do need to make a change. How do they reach out to you? I would encourage them to visit our website, probably one of the easiest ways WWW United planners dot com or joining United planners dot com. Our phone number is one eight hundred nine six six eight seven three seven, and they can speak to any member of our partner development team closing thoughts for me. I will simply say what I said earlier resonate with everything that Aaron said, which is be prudent informed hire professionals right in N. Please consider United planners. We have separate programs in offerings were very uniquely formed as a limited partnership fifty five percent of the firm's profits go. 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Visual Momentum: Climate Change  Water to Dust with Mette Lampcov

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Visual Momentum: Climate Change Water to Dust with Mette Lampcov

"Table to miss interview. It's all about documenting climate change with Meta lamp cough Hey welcome back to another episode of this. We can photo. I'm your host Frederik van Johnson Today Day on the show. I have the distinct pleasure of chatting with Meta Lamp Cov. She is amazing in many respects. You'RE GONNA find out a couple of them. In in this interview the main thrust of this interview though is climate change and some of the work. She's doing to raise awareness of that issue with her camera so welcome to the show. How's it going thank you. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to have you. We've got a lot to talk about. We've got a a lot to talk about so through the eyes of your camera. The planet is under sees right in many ways so this this project is people can see in the blog post for this episode this project that you're working on cold water to dust give me the gist of that project in in. Hell Hell it came to be and it really came to be from just the experience of living in the drought that you know that's about the seven eight years ago now a you know everything around those turning. Brown all the bills for quite up and the rest water restrictions and really you felt you needed to learn. I was curious what was going on a side accepted into mentorship program and it it was sort of the perfect curiosity to keep moving along with an accepted sorry yeah. I think that's Salak voted onto the game just like any other any other project curiosity right brought it on and through. It's interesting so you live in California you right now in southern California and as we were talking before or off line you were telling me that you narrowly missed the the wildfires. The the that southern California recently experienced tell takes the that that sort of experience a little bit because that was obviously a contributor to your passion mentioned for Documenting Climate Change. Right yeah I lived about boots hill three months before the fires I I I have made it many times. I have been invaluable while this fires and uneven apo- Malibu where kind of an expectation that the plywood implying implying reach that all the firemen would protect us so it was considered some a safe area in many people's minds so when the morning of the fire me I can't forget because I kinda friend from ballot with his communist state in my house because I had to go out town to take care of my dogs and Texas at seven in the morning but you get out of bed. Get out of bed leave and I was going to be concerned about what I had to do. I just wanted to make sure she was leaving as what I was seeing gene online twitter on images of coming out of the way beyond anything I've ever seen before yeah ah working on climate issues in like I have documented fires before but this this was a different monster the before in in Malibu. Yes this is very close to all. It wasn't a bad that affected every mind everybody I know and has found it back at me you and it's interesting because when when you tell people that yes. I live in Malibu California some of the most expensive real estate on the earth rate It's it's interesting because I've seen this. There's there's a different sort of perspective that a lot of Americans have or people around the world have in general like yeah those people just go buy another house right. There in Malibu is probably one of twelve houses. They own anyway when that's not really the case and it's it's a psychological sort of impact right. Can you again again. Did you experience that sort of the prejudiced I had massive. Traffic is really good. Words used I am not there is a section of mouth with s expensive wheel of saint probably some of the most expensive in the world us also just normal people normal lives noble incomes him to give me a perspective real estate in La in some perspective as expensive expensive patients off the ballot and a lot of the people that photographs of people that don't have enough insurance cover this soul you know and also so on another note. I don't think we should decide on what you photograph. Depending on the financial situation of people race lose hall you you lose your home and all your belongings and that was a big disconnect trying to tell his story that whilst this kind of thing all it's Malibu and even even takes me hells dry. They want to deliver the finance running late a need to shower because I extinct and they're like well. You don't be like eating dinner early. Can you know trying to make an achromatic in his uncle ashes and when when I got to the dinner with six weeks after the FIS to ask me people at Sei to rebuild yet well it took nine months to clean the Korea I mean nobody is rebuilding and on another note. I just saw a friend of mine. WHO's an architect she just had I think a house clearly out of I think it's four hundred fifty loans and actually physically you know there's one hundred fifty thousand five five hundred structures but I think it was in fifty holes in Molina structure as could be schools and many other things she is not a house house has been cleared meaning. It's now nine months later eight houses W. O. K. to stop building and starting it in cold is to give you an idea that has done is that's. That's scary and depressing at the same time you know one of the things that I'm sure you you know especially people that were affected by the fires may remember was the president came down and visited and gave some advice about about what what Californians could have done to prevent the fire now. They have you on the hot seat. I'm interested literally hotseat. I'm interested no how how did you. How did you take that because I think he said something about? You know you Shoulda rake the leaves or something like that right. When people like you said are are suffering through burning burning real estate but what was what was your feeling about that the honest to this shaddix a sack you remember what he said? I just remember remember laughing and drugging and he's always confused. That doesn't know what he's talking about also. It's it's you know it's a coolest prisoner. Essentially speaking he was referring to remember correctly forest health health the fact that there was a connection to that and yeah and I hope this is different shoe but someone connected to wildfire but yes communicating even came out with. I can't remember what he said that it happened. I remember standing on the side of the road. Malibu and I was like he standing in a roadblock because nobody could get in to Malibu forgot. It was ages thing. This must have been eight attacks day. He came to visit and people are still trying to getting that homes but if you were if you wanted to go in you could you could walk in and you could walk out. They would let me do that at that stage but you know people out. We were close shot off. You know points both locks because he was is that everybody was so angry and skewered this man had up here making signs and but then he I don't really yeah Jeez yeah well. Let's switch gears to a more positive. Look at this so this. This interview obviously is about photography and the documentary process. I'm really curious to learn about that in the in the story that the full blogger for you're at this this interview serve associated with you mentioned that there was before you started this project. There was a mountain of research and homework that you had to do before for clicking the shutter. Take me through that because a lot of people say it's you know. Just go out there with your camera. Get you get you know Little Fuji Camera and go snap some pictures there right right this story. It wasn't that simple right. What take me through that part of it the research now? I I am an OB searching to me. We searching Susan Alm. Tom. Would say you take the period at work on his shoes. I spent seventy to eighty percent. We searching be full. You know that that takes at the time of a few twenty percent. If I you know as an example I did a story on Tree Motala team this year Nevada Adamov since I got out to biologists National Forest Services to National Hawks spoke to share anybody conservancy they connected me to people then I got to forest management as a specific session Minnesota factors that satisfy bugs and then I go and then I ask more questions again reached out to experts so now. UC Davis met climate experts all kinds of sciences said Ucla a there's something that happens Ms Research. I I'm curious to know. Where am I going looking. phobic complicated complicated thing about unique climate change in a way it's transparent. You know it's not paint go per mole and it doesn't move around it. You'll outfits and all that not sexy. I have to go and see what I should help. Tell this to help explain something that can be very complex and subtle or can be really extreme but how oh you did admitted Ryan connect the science and the dots offering is going speaking to people learning from them learning through the experiences last around in what's happening but again you've got a DVD because it's not obviously it's I am an often very key factor and I am a feeling these objects a don't be on the stand the necessarily all they just sort of the natural progression of environment around them so so so then that information and and then experience knowledge and Nickelback ago all you know I might find a professor left knows about something I saw was curious about those out there. I made him a Holler. Go just this trip to look at this one specific issue. I'm curious what you experience a what do you see but did you feel so it really interesting because I've become the go between often scientists who works on specific issues now being to these places and this so I I kind of have expensive seeing knowing the signs so it'd be really interesting now do you do you feel like you become the an expert like if you're if you're talking to a professor or a climate scientists or someone that knows more than you do about the topic of course it's you're observing information but but on the opposite side of it like you said there are people that don't really understand what's happening to them sort of rolling with the punches do you find yourself in the position of educator when you go in with your cameras and sort of explaining and being sort of an evangelist for for climate change or not the US yes. I don't believe in preaching in anyway shape or form. I already goes listen. My job is to listen and people ask me what I think that I'm honest you now. I am there at seldom reason so it's Offenburg blatantly climate change shoes that can be climate change issues that can be consecutive dos. That's you know exasperate annoying right blowing in the wind affecting people's House you know so that can be very subtle little things and I tell them I would never preach. I never it's not my job. A most of the Land Workman's I duNno modern fifty fifty if you believe in climate change but also working a lot of people below the dope beats climate change is happening and also work with people that have specifically facility in public health issues. I am often end up in migrant communities. You know people that are here documented. All you don't feel safe. Shape too scared to tell me what's actually happening so then all the Intel reading in a very roundabout way see that that's the way I want her to stand it because you you don't strike me as a as a as a person. That's shy right double so passionate I mean your passion for this project comes through so if you're not shying you're passionate about a project and then someone you know tells you that thing working on. It's a myth I don't. I don't really believe of it. You know I wouldn't know what that reaction is. Do you do you just internalize it and walk away or d you confront and destroy way. What do you do. It's Li I think when I A- while working as a documentary photographer slash generalists it is just not my job to sell stole. My opinion is less enraged. Civically asks me and I've had people that way. Generally genuinely ask ask that wants to know and once the sad and that's fantastic presenting call okay. I'm definitely going to spend some Simon and give you the time of day eighty. See what I'm seeing in. My experience has not had an but I'm not that to change their mind in the way that I just feel like in that moment. It's not my job but that would be very aggressive. Fourteen saying you know this is bullshit. You shouldn't be here. Am You know how how dare you and you're wrong and you know this is. The natural progression knows ice age. Now we talk Mattson to get cold again. It's all noble progression doc nature and I cannot be bothered to try her may slammed because if you have if you at this stage in a specially you know someone educated tainted in America and you haven't worked out then. I'm really the room if you don't get it by now dude. I'm not that GONNA waste my time. It's like I might say we can choose to believe in science yeah yeah I would. I would imagine it's a lot like a religion right because you're not gonNA change. Someone's mind either in either direction to move from one religion to another or to believe in religion or whatever it's almost like banging your head against concrete and you have better things to do. I would imagine like you know speaking to the people who believe you. I don't think he can have can science because religionists is philosophy and that you know not not comparing religion and science but comparing pairing the trying to convince someone of something you know if you don't believe in the science or you don't believe in their religion. You're not gonNA convince them. It's not even worth with your time right. It's also something because I am an atheist. I August really disliked CHANGE MY I mind not. I have not seen a full respect for anybody from the Internet religion. They believe in practice up you you know. I appreciated the night along culture at all the people not for me. I don't want somebody to brainwash me about the religion but I think the signs becomes I mean I might have gone off track there bill. This is great. We're getting into the mind of Meta. This is in the I don't want you know I think that's the difference between about being educated a learning and being curious and wanted Understan- Stan back to what goes on around us to me. This is what this is about. You know we have to stop denying science side Susan and again science is a goal isn't my every saw things change. INFLEC- trade move in. It's not static. It goes because new things things get discovered but you know. I really don't know what to say without green climate change because the just had to look around themselves. Look what's happening just in general Komo news cycle every single day and I always say to people think about this. If you'd fall asleep twenty years ago and you've well up to them at the news it would be so self added because he will be such a shock to see what's going on and if you read it and said you know this was this is why this is what's happening you go yeah but this low mu unique nation some people. I feel like they can use and then we could use is being shocked getting used to cycle. I think we saw and then you get you get to the point where you think well. You know. It's bigger than I am. I can't do anything about it so I'm just GonNa live my life unless you're Meta and then you pick up your camera and you go tell a story about so the one of the one of the questions I wanted to ask. You was about specifically about documentary work right. We talked about the research that goes into it. which is a mountain? You said eighty plus percent of the time that you spent on this is spent doing homework before you've been clicked the shutter on the other end of that. Do you feel like the work that you're doing is affecting change. I would imagine that's the main goal is to raise awareness into effect change. Do you feel like it's doing its job. I think this is a particular difficult Michael Time to do that in America and his totally connected to that it so the government you know if you have a government denies climate change change creates the fuse. Everybody was made godless. If you believe in regardless of Holly Feel about yours to give them that little bit of an excuse excuse to not deal with it essentially and so. I think I have felt that I've been asylum this project while you know when a boundless wasn't Governor Justice Movement politically was in the news at student stop. Let's you know let's agreed today. unitewd to their parents say climate change a cold walk. Its let's move forward but we going backwards and that's a bad. I think less people interested those. The new cycle is so busy to trump trump that you know I mean that's an airline about which is wrong but I think there's a certain the email denial attached to being table to not the over that yeah the scary part is wanted to get your thoughts on this in your perspective the whole head in the San Dan thing where it's not my problem you know if a millennial or younger or something you know it's or even if older if if an older and my fifty sixty seventies email at I had my time with the planet it's over. I'm not even going to be here for the rising sea levels or if you're younger you may have your head in the sand. You may be thinking you know what there's plenty of time to fix it. I'll go do something that I can affect. Do you see that and you in your documentary work. Do you see that sort sort of bifurcation of opinions with people just sort of Leeann. It's not my problem or do you see people engaging in some cases not the younger people aw I think now I think it has to do with a very closely by clinical believe something on climate changes become a democratic thing. Especially American also gets like that in Europe. You unfortunately unfortunately wait. It's copulated that regardless of the core real beliefs they gonNA save. I don't believe in that economic beliefs you know some Christian beliefs law rather the hat attacks caught all make Mo Monty or whatever so that I'm not going to deal with this something. It's an age he shot things do without the people do for a living founded mansell economic believes. It's a classic comics. I'm curious. There's about how your your camera. Let's talk about gear a little bit so I'm curious about in a lot of other genres or photographers from a bunch of other genres that I speak to they tend to say especially street photographers in photojournalism obviously but they'll say the camera acts as a passport into situations that they wouldn't ordinarily early be able to get into or be welcomed into in the case of this project. Did you find that your your food. You camera allowed you to get in places that they would have said. nope sorry. REMEM- you can't come in here. Yeah I mean I think having the camera on me makes me feel like I have came mainly the cameras. It makes me say I'm here to do this. You know so that helps a camera in impasse forget you know and then I also have this other. That might be my little case law here in America. I'm a foreigner but I don't it people can believe place me at Alpha. Speak Spanish. I grew up in Spain a so this is so not look like you know. AGAI- asset white American but the hearing was strange accent speaking you'd especially to Latinos they can hear my Spanish accent. Send that confused actually. That's one of my biggest passports bear. He's like Oh. Who is this judge me. They can't could mean a box and that's really awful. That's good that that is your Cape. Not The camera yeah the multi-lingual you know your multi-lingual skills. Is Your your indefinite Cape so about gear so what which. which cameras did you choose? I know you But which cameras did you choose for this particular assignment assignment and slash job in why so probably continue you might WanNa have seen waving excuse me the cannon. Can I talk about all of that absolutely yeah yeah. We're not this is this is not a commercial you can talk about whatever you had had an editing space yet no so. I felt this week cameras at shop with my Fujifilm x t eighty two am I saying that I'm really bad sixty two to fifty s and my can invite the muscle and Rome that can fly but I'm not actually I mean I haven't license number lobster glasses ages. Oh interesting so you're you know I had that on my notes to ask you about that because it seems like a purpose built assignment for flying a drone out there yeah so you so you. How much did you use the drone. When you're when you're doing shots I didn't because I didn't use it that much. I did use it while it was still debris. Grounded will so duff seamus meeting the last thing I wanted to put my daughter in for some reason isn't still take my camera is the best 'cause I'm trying to get people so the great to get this. One image needs mediates rate. A one or two images puts me. Having my still camera is still so much faster yeah. It's like it's like the establishing shot in movies movies right. You always see the wide to let you know where you are than the medium than the close up but you're not gonNA stay on. The wide shot the entire time right. Listen some sort of Godzilla epic or something you don't talk. Police framed the fun. I love it. I mean they're playing trouble every day a eh but it's also takes a lot of time a lot of battery. You know it's it's fatal. It's complicated new. I'm also on the firestone's been falling trees. Foley wires everywhere. I needed more people and I'm always allowed. I go out. I'm always low on on on their signs wants for the Wall Street Journal ahead of today's but the rest of the time it's me long and then I'd like to throw gets complicated. Yeah you know I mean it's more more complex. I would imagine you know sort of using a camera like say. The one of the Fuji Cameras are the Canon Cameras or whatever you choose to shoot with that day it simple the if F F stop shutter speed ISO and you can concentrate on the story versus Elvis other stuff right. I was GonNa say AH yeah. I'm curious about the so you're shooting like what is it day in the life. Look like obviously each day was different but going out there and what is the prep prep day the prep before you go out to shoot a particular area. What does it look like when you're out there and then when you come back would he do offload and back up and coal and what's what's it. What's it day in the life of Meta so in that in the fire story. Oh yeah so that really depended on when that will start in the beginning. It was really fast. You know that was I was like scrambling to try by batteries to leisurely go out with as many batteries. Areso could get older less in hot case. I have a belt at the next Orlando to on a have very sexy. Fanny pack my wallet. McKee's McKee's live bomb everything so that develops like body camera by always of two bodies with minutes always my could would you film at its Mike Handle it. You know what happened. The wrecks which camera I take off. My preparation is when I was is by now. When those mandatory evacuation menin sort of means you know at this moment blocks nobody can get in? Some people stayed but you know it's it's a five song in the fire hire men out there putting out fires still and utility. South you get pollen soaps that Ronald and all this kind of stuff the main it's inspiring making sure had clear lenses best you can and and run and they're not come home download make possible get to New York and then to start again nets ridiculous. I love the next morning and go out and make it back. You know I'll be back in at nine. Eleven solve shakes. Wow Wow now our post processing your own work or are you sending the raw files off to New York and and letting them handle it. Now you don't do that you do own. Were okay good. Okay so you handle that and you you send them the final the final files that you want them to see cool. This is crazy are you how do you how do you feel about the project and the like from the beginning ginning of doing this project all the way through to now. How do you feel if any has this project changed you as a person feel like you feel like coming. Obviously you're smarter. We get smarter every day. But did you feel like it's fundamentally changed the way you think about things yes. This is partake checked has profoundly changed me. I think I caught my heart and soul into suggestion this am I learned so much about climate change change. I've learned a lot of people pass affecting them. I think it'd be if anything I have become really good at seeing seeing these things and understanding them up developed developed as a human being and seeing this and I think as I think doc metric photographers. Just it's the weirdest job in the world. You're going into people's homes. Places never imagined I would Li. I feel so lucky again to seize the to be present doesn't get to be the world's and joining in complicated issues to them I when I saw the you know we'll see fine. I'll go in and so people on the beaches trying to union the sending boats with food and supplies in modern generators be able to see that and being able to be you know and nst documenting prescribed bones and treatments Halloween share us and Latin set for us that was actually go suj- light. The forest thought up yeah. Wow that's that's amazing. That's my dream and my happiness on the body of worked at we'll we'll hopefully change minds and and live on what are your next plans. What what's the next project ED. You'RE GONNA tackle. I'm not going to tell you mccomb on. I think it was a hand. They'll tell US exactly. You give us a little a little then. We'll tell you I am. I turn Iowa fifty and that has changed. How people react me speaks to me on how the world treats especially as a woman and I wanted to look at this saw. I'm looking in actually they want to do with my Key X fifty cents cold. I'm so bad at this and I I WANNA do a portrait project with women about forty and wear down Malaya's those successes and who they are right now world and I think it's something I felt coming in. I'm in the middle of working on on just stunning shooting and not speaking really you know I'll be out to Addison's when I have a couple of shots. Do you want to do this with me but I just WanNa get going 'cause I'm excited about the camera and I'm excited about this project. love it and that's all it takes so take your passion from one area in focus it on another area to you you just to wrap things up like I said earlier your your passion for for this other job working on clearly comes through raid so for the photographers that are out there watching this and they're trying to figure out a project like this to sort of get their sink their teeth into what advice would you give them you know in in terms of things to cover and where to point their camera you mean as ideas rather all the necessary counter find a long project. Yes exactly how to find a long-term project how to get inspired passionate about something but I think you got over the any you gotta find something. You really like. Don't do what you think you should like you a lot of people on the Aziz Cool. I should like this. No I mean you could go and shoot your neighbor. Stop for the next three years. NFL You could be interesting. I find it says you you have to athlete dedicate. You saw it have to be willing truthful and honest meme. It's it's painful if its it's exhausting eight you it's it's such that occasion and you have to love it. You have to love and really boulder anything profoundly care about what you're GonNa go on photograph and Hugo you can engage with and for me that has become the land and people I photograph to me just as much as I'm photographing and hoping to talk to people climate change and tell all these stories it's awesome to California and environment nature that needs protect absolutely love that level editor to California. That's that's that'd been the title that was a love letter and pictures to California. People WanNA see your work. We'll obviously have some photos. photo gallery associated with the blog post in this video. I've been overlaying the much of your work here from this particular project but if people wanna see more urban and more of what you're working on or connect with you what's the best way to do that and follow me on instagram which my name at Maximum Oh cup. NBA Teensy e Left Alien P. C. O. B. and my website but I've seen my instagram is properly where end up being the most. I'm chuck task average keeping up acceptable but having assignments they ended up news on my website. Did you just say fantastically average. See that's perfect. You are clearly writer. I love that I'm GonNa have to borrow that fantastic average as they're a mental. Am thank you so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure having you congratulations on the project that you're working on and Dan. Please come on again for the next project when you when you're ready to talk more deeply about it. I'm excited for that. That sounds really interesting. Thank you so much for having me all roles of carrying about the story found story and and carrying the product media means to me so thank you you. You're welcome. You have a good rest of your week and we'll talk next pecan.

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A Generalist and a Scholar

Slate's The Gist

30:14 min | 1 year ago

A Generalist and a Scholar

"Hi, Mike Pasco we've got a great show for you today, but before we launch into it, here's a word from our first sponsor. This message is brought to you by hotels dot com. You know, when you're endlessly scrolling social media, and then you see it, it's your friend Gavin incur- sow on another vacation, what do you do? You hate like his photo and immediately. Go to hotels dot com to book vacation so epic. So awesome. So sweet that your friends will hate like your trip hotels dot com, be there do that get rewarded the following recording may or may not include instances of words being said that the FCC would find me for their long arm could ever reach. It's Thursday, June thirteenth two thousand nineteen from slate, it's the gist, I might pass. There are a few candidates for president who will be debating TV, but not on the TV in two weeks. Time yesterday and be CNBC family of networks announced an extended family of moderators to play sort of zone defense on the twenty candidates who will be debating apparently savannah, Guthrie is going to lock up Bernie in a box in one while Lester Holt and Rachel Maddow. Try to keep Betto and Jila Brandt out of the low post as Jose Diaz Balart displays the lockdown perimeter defense on Harris. Warren Booker swallow, well, Chuck Todd fierce rim protector. Not my house. Tulsi Gabbard but left out in a d league all their own. We'll be the likes of Steve Bullock, Seth Moulton, Wayne mess him and Mike gravel. Now at this point. Microsoft is apparently Meam he's possibly a hologram. Seems to be operated by two college kids out of their dorm room but Steve Bullock. And Seth Moulton are bonafide elected officials. And so is Wayne mess him. But he's elected to a city. It's more of a town really. It's the fourth biggest town in his county. Steve Bullock got two hundred fifty five thousand votes for the office he holds Seth Moulton got two hundred seventeen thousand votes for the office. He holds when mess him got five thousand eight hundred forty eight foot have you want to say? What about mayor Pete? He only got eighty five hundred votes. Yes. But and this is the most salient point, a significant number of people would like him to be president. No one wants Wayne mess him to be president. No one has told a pollster they'd like him to be president. No one is giving him any money towards the goal of being president and very few people voted for him turn out and Broward County was on election day nine percent. Why do we even mention Wayne mess hymns name? On the list of announced candidates who've been denied space. Why isn't he alongside the wackadoo longshots? We could safely ignore. I'll tell you why. It's Marianne Williamson. That's it isn't it right? Once Oprah's guru polls. Or fundraisers, her way into the debates we no longer have threshold for saying, okay below this, you're too wacky to even be mentioned in the coverage of not getting coverage you can argue for mess. Embolic molten, not getting invited to the debate. It's better coverage than what Tim Ryan or John Hickenlooper gonna get by being in the debate this day or two of stories about the guys weren't debated, at least that sets them apart. It's a differentiator everyone in the debate it's just some other guy or woman in the debate, it takes a special kind of democrat to be left out of the debates. They have that special something Bullock, Multan mess him and virtual reality. Mike reveals won't even have to deal with Jose Diaz Balart wrestling, the microwave and wagging a finger saying not in my house on the show today in the field. It's an episode of this is stupid, which really doesn't narrow it down in two thousand nine hundred America does it but first, a great new book from young young ish writer, whose proving himself to be a master of the nonfiction form. David Epsteins last book was the sports, gene. And now he's out with a new one about whether it's better to be a Federer or a tiger. Woods. The answer clearly is a Federer unless you want back pain, and dozens of concubines, maybe hundreds, but the two are actually archetypes that illustrate the central discussion contained in range, white generalists triumph in a specialized world. David Epstein up next. Two thousand fourteen David Epstein was invited to these Sloan analytics conference. It's where all the MIT based conference where all the nerds and sports, jocks convene, and he was he was invited to debate, Malcolm glad well, who has this famous theory that with ten thousand hours of practice you get better at something. So let's call for the sake of argument. Glad well, a specialist a man who believes in specialization Epstein had a different view. He believed in generalization, and he took the debate as an opportunity to form a hypothesis to test the hypothesis and from there will find out about the debate, and we'll also find out about the results of that exercise, which is the book that sitting right here on my desk, range. Why generalists triumph in a specialized world? David, thanks for coming on the gist again. Thank you for having me. So did you have this? Intuition, that general ISM was. Right. Or did you go in having any research on it? Well by they tap you. Debate him. Is my question. Well, because I wrote this book, the sports, gene. Yeah. Criticizes work, basically, and more. So I- Chris, it was really the problem was with the underlying science of the ten thousand hour rule. And so when I wrote the sports, gene, critiqued him, they invited us there to kind of have this debate and, you know, he's very clever and I'd never met him before. And I didn't want to embarrass. So did some homework and I tried to anti-state what he'd argue is he's gonna have to argue early specialization. It's like a core part of some of the things he's written. And so I said, well, all right. I'm going to do a search all the literature and find and look at when we actually track athletes like what does it look like? And the answer was it's they have what scientists call sampling period. They play a variety of sports. They learn these broad general skills that scaffold later skills, a learn about their interests. Learn about their abilities, systematically delay specialization until later than peers. So I kind of called this, the Roger verse. Tiger problem Tiger Woods, we know super early specialization Roger Federer kinda everything. Basically, he was a total opposite. And my question was, which of these is the norm. And it turns out, it's, it's the Roger bath and engulf also happens to be a horrible model of almost every other skill people wanna learn. So we've been extrapolating from the wrong story. And when, when Gladwin I came off that stage he kind of said you, don't you got me on was that Roger verse? Tiger thing and then we became running buddies couple blocks from here for cream park, and we were talking about on our own time, and eventually decided to expand it to other domains did the subsequent discussions with Malcolm. Glad well actually spark more intuitions on your part. It just made me curious if I would find the same pattern in other domains, but eventually, I just sort of filed it in the back of my head, really. And I was just starting a new job at propublica and so wasn't something I was ready to take on. But then I got involved with the Pat Tillman foundation, give scholarships to military veterans soldiers military spouses to aid in career changes, essentially, and I gave a talk there about some this late specialization in sports, and they like jumped on it, and we're like we're all behind. I mean two days later, I got an Email from navy Exxon. ABC who is in the crowd, who was had undergrad degree in geophysics in history and was in Dartmouth and Harvard at the same time in public ministration and business saying, I feel so relieved. Like, I'm not I'm like, are you kidding man's? You've been made to feel they brainwash this guy. Yeah. Like a then maybe I should look into this a little more. You're a generalist. Yeah. I mean I started I'll generalists to the weird thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course, of course, generalist you broaden specialized is about degree and to some degree about semantics, but I mean I was going down to science track. Right in, in that unexpectedly turned out to be by far. The most valuable thing for me at Sports Illustrated geology major an astronomy. Yeah, I went to grad school. I was like, moon rocks where exactly you're the middle of dyke. I mean I was living in a tent in the Arctic when I decided for sure, I was going to try to be a, a writer. Yeah. And I started when I finally got Endesa as a temp fact, checker, and it was these weird skills that I had that kind of, like vaulted me. You know, pass people who are waiting in line to be like, the, the twentieth in line to be the next beat reporter for whatever sport when people when young people ask me for advice on what to do to break into sports, I tell them get a niche, specialty, like if you wanna be a baseball reporter, learn everything about say the mechanics of 'em pirating or learn speak Korean and Japanese, that'd be really good. So is this good advice, or bad advice, like to differentiate yourself really learn something gained some expertise in some ancillary area? I think differentiating is good. I think in some ways, which are telling them is to take like a skill that's normally somewhere else and bring it into this, and that I think is a good thing. Right. So whereas I was totally ordinary scientist. Once I was moving area of journalism it looks like I'm like, oh, specialists, right. To suddenly, it's extraordinary even though I was. Totally average in this other area, but it would've been insane for someone who's dream as an eight year old to work in sl to spend his ten thousand hours tried to be a writer, like I don't know what that would even look. I'm not sure what that would look like either. And I think I think the important thing, one of the one of the classic findings that I kind of hammer on in the book in different ways is it can be summarized as breadth of training predicts breadth of transfer transfers. What psychologists the word they use when they mean taking skills or knowledge and being able to apply them in situations? You have not seen before, and what predicts your ability to do that is, how broad you're training is so that you, you learn not just procedures you can use, but these sort of more general models that are flexible, that you can apply. And so, even if you were getting started earlier writer, would you should make sure to do is really very up those challenges? So in the writing of this book where, you know, the sports scene was an organizational challenge. This was much more. So when I got stuck, I took an online fiction writing course, and that, like got me out of my rut. And I think you know allowed me to do something I hadn't done before. Why what, what? About fiction I was stuck with figuring out how to organize and I went into that class. First of all, it just it just gave me the sense of being a beginner again. You know, I wasn't I realize certain types strategies like uses of, like certain types of line breaks that I was relying on just out of instinct. Yeah. And relying using quotes in a certain way just out of instinct, I didn't even realize I was doing so then I take that class, and we have to some of the exercise where you have to write only with dialogue and some, you can't use dialogue at all went back through the whole manuscript start stripping out all these quotes that weren't that good. And then I had just been like relying on to tell the story for me in a way that I shouldn't have done in and made me realize I didn't even realize certain habits that were so ingrained that until I sort of broke out of them, I wasn't being a good editor of myself. So this is good. This isn't just that you got into a different mindset. You started seeing the world in different way in it seeped into your work. This was really taking wholesale the lessons of this fiction course. And boom putting it in your sort of freaked me out a little bit because then I went back and I was like, what was I thinking? With, like quoting this, and this and this like these aren't, even good quotes, like I should explain these things. And so it, it made me wary realizing that even being aware that you should diversify challenges. I was like, no better to scaping that actual cognitive bias in practice until I got outside and did something else. But it seems that you have this ability, I don't know if this generalization to really self assess and to honestly, blow the whistle on yourself so like lad. Well did in your debate. But also, you know, in the sports, gene. If you look in the back material some of your citations are criticizing articles in Sports Illustrated, that you wrote that tell you that before nobody's ever called me on that before. I did my research. Okay. No, you didn't. Well, maybe I told somebody that before because nobody's really ever called me that, but I did site some of my own articles as having been wrong because once I like the first year of my books. All I do is try to read ten journal articles day every day for the first year and in doing that, even having written a seven thousand word article I realized I got. Things. Right. Not like straight factual errors, but things that people with PHD's had told me which they could not actually conclude from their data. And once I went through it in a lot more detail. I realize those things wrong. And it so you relied on the expertise say, yeah, exactly. But this like calling out yourself sort of thing. This is like one of the main habits of so-called, self-regulatory learners people who, don't stay on plateaus long of skill. They really reflect on, on what they're doing very actively in our kind of self critical. Okay. So is it generalist more likely or able to be that because of your specialist and, and it would seem to have such higher stakes to blow the whistle on yourself because that's the only thing you got. If you say you know what I've been playing the violin for fifteen years. And I've listened to tapes, and I'm just no good. You don't have maracas to fall back and let me give you an example. So there's that relates to sort of two things in the book, the first one in chapter ten, which looks at expert political and economic prediction. And this was a twenty year study to figure out how good we're expert. Actions about world trends. And usually when we see people on TV, they're just like strong probability. This will have a strong possibility that doesn't even know what that means. So this was twenty years specific predictions had to be made with specific probabilities and specific deadlines, and it turned out that the worst forecasters were the most narrow specialists like people who had spent their whole life, studying one problem because no matter what they had to predict they would bend everything into this one model that they had. But to your point about them not being self critical here. Here's what's even crazier. First of all, they got worse as they accumulated credentials because they had enough information to fit any story that lends. But if you're a proper, like basin thinker for the statistics people when you go wrong, you should update your mental model. You know, you may still believe what you believe, but you should be a little less confident the most specialized people who are the worst, forecasters, sometimes went horribly wrong in a prediction, and updated in the wrong direction by strengthening the beliefs. Yeah. That sent them the wrong way a hiker in Hawaii who is convinced herself that. She's going in the right direction. Right. And so when you're reinforcing, the belief that led to a stray like you, are, you have lost all orientation, any kind of self critical analysis? I was thinking of Dave Grohl. Did you look into him at all? I did not. Yeah. So he played. He's a multi instrumentalist, and he plays everything. And if it was possible, foo fighters, would be just one guy. I mean, people like him and like prints and all and some of these the orphan orchestra that I described range if the strict way of thinking about ten thousand our we'll were true, then they than their time spent on different instruments would be zero sum competition with with each other, and they would not be able to get good at that many instruments. But it turns out that when you diversify across instruments, the number of hours, you need to pick up any subsequent ones gets lower and lower. Right. Right. It's a little like for some people languages. But it does it seems important and significant to me, if we're thinking about this. Well, how should I treat my children and how much should I specialize? Grohl played just Qatar from twelve to sixteen and then he got interested in drums, and then it was a guitarist and a drummer. But it seems to me if starting twelve he did drum lessons three days a week, and guitar than three days a week that would have been worse for his output. And, you know, American listeners as well maybe maybe hard to know for sure in, in particular scenarios. And I don't think we should like for SCR. I don't think we should like prescribe diversification anymore than we should prescribe specialization. Yes. But the but it does seem like we're unnaturally convinced we've been convinced that specializations the way to go. And if nothing else of this book stands as a counter argument to that it's done its job. It does stand as a counter argument to that. And I think, you know, the appro I'm a new parent, and, and I'm taking a kind of an approach. I'm not worried about missing the next Tiger Woods. Or Mozart for example, for first of all because we tell those stories wrong, in fact, as Tiger Woods said his father, never asked him to play off all his you've. Read that you read the Catan Benedict. Yes, it seems like there was more of a psychological experiment going on. And the father, just convinced tiger to ask to play golf. Well, we're like did a number on him so that he could. But he initially responded to Tigers display of this, very unusual prowess and interest in it. You know, the things he did after same with Mozart's father initially responded to Mozart's interests, like the first time most asked to play with musicians came over. He was like, nobody's you haven't had a lesson go away and some other musicians had, we'll all go play with him because he started crying, and then his father like hears music coming from the next room. So I don't think I've been that musician writes a letter saying, second violin. This guys has good as the first violinist. Yeah. Well, and actually, I remember the letter says, like Wolfgang was emboldened, by our applause to insist that actually he could play the I violin also but so I'm not really worried about missing that. So the approach, I like is this one that the army started to implement where they used to be very upper out. And now they have something called talent base branching where instead of saying you're going into this career path. You know, try. Move upper out. They say here's a bunch of careers. They pair them with a coach, and they say dabble in these the coach will help you reflect on did this fit your strengths and interests, and we'll sort of zigzag until you get a better match. And then you will know about all these other things out there, so you can integrate with your colleagues, but, but we want to work toward getting you the right match and they've had much better success. In developing officers and retention with town base branching. So I would kind of see my role as that coach for a kid facilitate exposure opportunities in that, that, that those experiences, even if they don't go into will not be wasted. You can you bring that knowledge into other domains, and I'll just be the coach that helps them reflect and make sure that they get the maximum amount of learning from those experiences. Here's my last question, it seems to me and you write about this implicitly or explicitly in the book all of our best known social science. Studies are either wrong or more accurately put misinterpreted, so you're grit study the marshmallows study the Stanford prison in the milgram shock study that Malcolm's ten thousand hours study. Priming and power poses. Like, what is this isn't just replication there seems to and I'm not talking about. I didn't choose a grab bag of some of the most known social studies. These are one through ten basically what is going on? So I mean I confess in range to having research. That is still early published that I'm now pretty darn sure is now. Right. Or if it's right, then it's just by luck. And what happened was when I went into grad school, instantly, I go into learning didactic information about Arctic plant physiology, and never learned, how scientific methodology should work how to determine how, you know, if something is true, how statistics work, which has gotten really dangerous because they're such powerful computer programs for statistics. You don't have to learn it. You get a huge database big data's made it weighs your to do crap science, also easier do certain kinds of good science. But, and so, you know, I was running statistical tests on this huge databases, not realizing that the way I was doing that. And the methodology I was using was ensuring that I would find spurious results and only as a. A journalist writing about poor scientific practices that I started to go, like, wait a minute. This is what I did. And, and so we have this huge whole generation, right? And I and I got rewarded for it with an Ivy league master's degree. And so we have this whole generation of people who were not taught how the fundamental broad concepts and skills should work before. They're shoved into a specialization. That's why in the last chapter I kind of profile one of the most prominent scientists in the world who's at Johns Hopkins right now starting a program explicitly to dispatch allies, the training of scientists, who we normally consider the people who are like the most specialized in the entire world, range. Why generalists triumph in a specialized world by David Epstein? Thanks, david. Thanks for having me. Doctors are doing the best. They can't fight cancer. The most challenging disease humankind has ever faced, but they're often limited by two D matsch's to understand a patient's three D anatomy. What if this could be different? Dr Christopher Morley. Dr Osama Chowdhry created Medved's technology that can take two dimensional patient, imaging, whether an MRI or cat scan and converted into three dimensional holographic renderings. This will fundamentally change, how doctors visualized cancer doctor Morley. And Chowdhry thought this technology might just not be possible because computing power just wasn't there. But Verizon five G ultra wideband. We'll give them the ability to do this variety and five G ultra wideband will help give doctors the ability to fight cancer like never before. Now the spiel and this is stupid on this edition of this is stupid. We begin by reading this description of a policy stance of an expert. This is provided by the New York Times, quote, Jessica Bill recently visited California state lawmakers to oppose new restrictions on medical exemptions, to the state's mandatory vaccination law. Here's what you need to know. I'll tell you what I need to know. None of that lots of celebrities have lots of scientifically, backwards ideas, Gwyneth Paltrow makes a fortune shoving Jade eggs, up her who ha- Cairo Irving doesn't believe in dinosaurs. But the thing that's really stupid is the explanation of why this star of let's say movies, or maybe a TV show what she actually believes again. She visited California state lawmakers to oppose new restrictions on medical exemptions. Nhs to the state's mandatory vaccination laws. I understand some of these words, mandatory restrictions think I get exemptions, but she opposes the restrictions of the exemptions to the mandate. Perhaps, we could get a referendum on a plebiscite to carve out safe harbors for position to the restrictions of the exemptions to the mandate, which are about vaccinations. So, in other words, we would offer indemnification or absolution to an opposition over the restrictions of the exemptions to the mandate for the immunity offered by an occupations, what I'm saying is this, Jessica bills, an anti vaccine, or maybe she's an anti pro vaccine? Or maybe she's anti antibiotics is part of a probiotic diet. All I know is this. I never saw seventh heaven and therefore I'm actually unfamiliar with any of the movies. She's been in. I did see, I now pronounce you, Chuck and Larry which it says she did have a role in. And there is no inoculation from that in other, this is stupid news here. Now, you're about to listen to a Representative from the Guinness Book of world records, and this is stupid so hits day in Germany been bucks by Honda to officially. Witness this, this world record for the fastest acceleration for one hundred miles per hour by loan, mar lawnmower. A very fast lawnmower that not to exist. Why would you need a lawn mower that goes one hundred miles an hour? How much crass is really going to be cut at that speed. These aren't the questions Guinness was obsessed with instead, they focused more on basic taxonomy. The vehicle must intrinsically look like a lawnmower. That's pretty precise. But you'll be happy to know that the qualifications don't end with just that. And it also must be able to cut gross. Not only must look like it cuts grass. It must cut grass. But wait, what if the thing really did mow the lawn just didn't look like it, mowed the lawn then it wouldn't count as a lawn mower? I dunno perhaps to be an extremely fast cow. So did the lawnmower set the record? Let's find out now confirm. But this little built by Hong. Stop just stop. This is not a world record. This is stupid. And this is stupid. This is somebody that said we have information on your opponent. Oh, let me call the FBI. Give me a break. Lifeless director says what should happen? The FBI director is wrong, look, if we didn't use a lot of discernment Mr. Trump would be leadoff, batter meat and kicker of the this is stupid segment for all time. And we can't let that happen. So, in fact, I don't want to even hold up the stupid thing. He said as the stupid thing on. This is stupid. No. Let's go to FOX, which by decree had to defend the indefensible, of course, no matter what he says there's always good justification. You usually pick from an assortment of three general justifications one. That's not what he meant to. He was joking. You don't get the joke. What are you merlots three? The Dem's do it, too, on this one with a little gloss of, and isn't it great? How upset the other side. Got they went with three the mainstream media melting down over the president telling ABC that he would listen, if foreign government offered him, damaging information about a political opponent, but isn't that exactly what Democrats did in two thousand sixteen? It is not suit dress, the Democrats commission, Dapo research, legal and ethical from US firm, fusion GPS, who had an employee Christopher Steele, who's a foreigner. This is as illegal is hiring a firm to direct a campaign commercial and the makeup artist on the shoot is a quantum onlin. Or let's say or Norwegian luckily, FOX brought out a professional constitutional law. Attorney general LS Reeves is here to shed some light on all of this force. Thank you so much for joining us. Jim Ellis Reeves teaches at Colorado Christian university, which doesn't have a law school, Geno. Reeves is the author of the legal basis for a moral constitution which she wrote because quote law school teaches that law is arbitrary inflec-. Depending on the current majority whim, this presents a conflict when dealing with our constitution which is predicated on the biblical worldview. What, what was that? Don't they didn't? They order the amendments, and then the first one, say something anyway, anyway, anyway, don't want to question the constitutional scholar here. Was the question that was put to her. This is what Democrats did, especially when it comes to the still dossier, because you have the still dossier written by Christopher Steele, who was from Great Britain. And then you have his information coming from Russian sources, right long. Like I said, it's not analogous. It does, muddy the waters accepting opposition research, from foreigners is wrong, and illegal. The Steele dossier is not wrong illegal Robert Muller. In his report said the reason he did not indict Donald Trump junior for accepting opposition research from foreigners. I e the meeting with veselnitskaya in Trump Tower is that Robert Mueller could improve Donald Trump junior. Knew it was wrong. But this time you gotta figure. Donald Trump, senior might not admit it, but he knows. It's wrong here was the professors answer to this question. Here was her analogy, and so for the Democrats calling for impeachment, when they're supposedly advocating for free and fair elections is like using your first amendment, right to exercise freedom of speech by calling for government censorship. I'd like to note that using free speech to call for censorship is not hypocritical. It's what anyone who's ever spoken out loud against child porn laws or written op Ed in support of child porn laws has done. It's not hypocritical to call for both free elections, and then also to advocate for impeaching a president who breaks the law. Wait on the one hand, you say you want free elections. But on the other, you also don't wanna president influenced by foreign power. That was trying to influence the election, hypocrites. No, it's not hypocritical. And it's not wrong, and it's not an accurate representation of what went down and. That interview. But you know what it is? This is stupid. 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LeBron booed, Jordan salty?, Giannis, Blake Griffin, all-time dominant players

In The Zone with Chris Broussard

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LeBron booed, Jordan salty?, Giannis, Blake Griffin, all-time dominant players

"The. Borders on the line. He passes Jordan. That would give me Paul's. This is embarrassing. And you know, what this is typical J career art career trajectory. We'll talk and face the league wise here six is year. Six bronx. Chris Broussard here and welcome to the brand new who stormed FOX by cast this podcast will give you your daily dose of all things NBA from Fox Sports, including the best content from skipping Shannon's, Nick, right? Plus special guests, fresh NBA content. For myself postgame interviews from NBA stars around the league and much much more. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a five star review. First Marceau's tells Whitlock in SF, why crew why Laker fans booing LeBron on his historic night. Should only feel the king. And I think at some point he's going to figure it out. And I think there is a chance I'm gonna say hi chance. But let's say thirty percent chance that he figures out said, you know, what I need to get out of here. Need to go to New York someplace else? This born this dude on the line. He passes Jordan. I would be that would give me Paul's and something to think about man, if you king, and they're booing, you just makes you wonder just shine that crown even brighter next year and just stick it to one as a native I will say in terms of our fandom at times, we can be fickle. If you're a winner, we love if you not boo, but we'll be right back. So when you start winning again and that could be a two game win streak for the Lakers. Just all sudden, they're back in shack booed Coby got booed. They booed a great seer because does just so spoiled with success right now, they don't like this. He's not part of the Laker family. I told you never had LA. And this is now them trying to respond to that say, we told you this is still Koby Mamba country, but LeBron will respond to this team will be on that night. The now you pass nj. How can you give booth on that night that night you push all the side? Just like the night where Kobe. Ahead. Sixty is Utah. Forget that. We know. Sure. Last game, you push all the side on that night. You give booed. I don't understand that one. I think LeBron when he has a towel over his face. He was crying regret. Like, what am I doing here? I get it. There's a lot of good things that are happening off the court for him. But he's seeking himself. Mike. This is the moment. This is this is where I'm at right now. I look up I'm down by twenty. I think that was a hard moment for the brand right there. I mean fans got understand all people understand the Lakers. Don't celebrate individual wars. They celebrate championships. That's what they used to use it. But at the same time as a player coming from ways come from. That's a that's a that's a big reward for him to pass, Michael Jordan. We all grew up idolizing him. So for him. I understand what he's that's a big fee for anybody coming from where you come from. And that's how I got booed on the night. None of that Mattis. None of that Madison. Lebron why come from nobody? I'm here today. Sending I'm pass my idol, an NBA scorn with everybody doing here does not matter to me. All right. Let me ask me doesn't matter at all. Which is if it doesn't matter the I did this the next time. Let's say here next year. He's gonna pass Koby next year. He's going to do that at home. He's going to be okay with that. Or he's going to schedule it where he's like, you know, what better do this on the road? There's going to be the same way because the Lakers fans don't celebrate individual awards this for celebrating championship, we send a break open that much when he scored sixty points. Gang. You. It was a great game going out. But after that day, it was overweight. Okay. What else? The next year. Yeah. I don't have rain coming back at Brigham on a quote, we gonna set it by game. You know, saying he's right. Wasn't that big just past Michael, Jordan? But both that only look at it. He did that in a Cleveland uniform of Miami uniform in video montage show that I felt that. And then you're talking about MJ. None of that is LA citric. So people like I respect for you time to do for us. The Bronx tweeted out to us before the game our gate. Oh, wow. That's going to be unreal. This moment, blah, blah, blah. You can't tell me it cost his mind, you know, might get moved enough. What translates? Bron why he was really crying is. Because not only did I pass Michael Jordan guy idolize, but I wanted a positive influence from the hood from where I'm from and MJ became a billionaire from nothing and now not only have surpassed him in terms of points. But I might Sapan them in terms of off the court at me he might look in the Bronx. Stay in zone. He is accomplished so much and LA fans when you Brown dig about what he's been doing in versity that boo. Not going to be passing Mike. We know. It's okay. Don't don't make seems like he didn't. He didn't. He didn't do some. That's great. That's never been dental on believable. So what are you saying saying why Laker fans not accept him for the graves Juno that don't? Beijing productive isky at the clipper game because that is not used to win and they're celebrating Dirk this only have his head Lakers champion. Okay. Let's let's move to LeBron. Right. Not in terms of how he interpreted and how he feels about being booed on the night. He doesn't care. What do you mean? For years say take me for granted spoilt. We all rather gate applauded then Boone J tripping on a night. Is you you've been saying for years I've spoiled y'all take me for granted. You celebrate yourself more than damned damn near the media celebrates every everything he does he tweets out he Instagram post last night. I wipe my butt for the hundred time Jordan only eight time. Celebrate this young people. You white better than anybody. You tell me this isn't bothered that he got booed. He's I know he's not. Position. Would you ever let those people have grandma say don't let them still joy, baby. And that moment, I let you still my joy, not just guy. That's what I post. He went to the Hague as I wink to I hear you. I'm not paying attention. I just passed Mike. While would I give that energy, you know, like, your grandmother advice to stay there because you need it because she knows you're hurting. And she's like baby don't let nobody steal your jewelry. That's why saying is out there. Yeah. So trust me. Lebron James is mama today. Is that baby? Don't let us not. Last night. What's on? Tell me somebody to does all this social media posted look at great jaw. Whereabout? Oh to movies and a couple of months hit it hit. Worried that they wouldn't do and course 'cause they close to them to sell. They'll face. Well, have you know, what Facebook is high school? So everybody's just herb already. And there'll be some forty year old that you went to high school on Facebook right now putting up pictures of how great their life is. And you you would see it in. I know I'm terrible things off your husband just left. Here are your wife just left you thirty pounds, overweight, but you trying to put on this big show when I look at LeBron's social media feed and all the dancing and all the love letters to KAI ry and all the celebration of himself. It ain't no different than that person. You went to high school with who's faking the funk face different, he's famous Dane, he actually. Bane. I if I cannot baking every billionaire millionaire was happy. Y'all have a point. But. The Bronx Justice unhappy the person with no money. Next crisper aren't explains why LeBron probably won't be a fan of getting extra rest as the season wines down. Are they doing the right thing by scaling back? Lebron James minute. I think it makes sense, but it's being called their advising him. 'cause my thing is I'll believe it. When I see it. Lebron was to play how many times have we seen? Oh, he's gonna cut back as he did cut him back this year about thirty six, but I wouldn't be surprised if his average the rest of the way as about thirty four minutes a night, which is cutting it down a little but twenty eight to thirty two I don't know if LeBron go that low him not being one hundred percent, maybe that's because of conditioning because of the injury, he's not fully back from that. But look, I'm assuming the growing fine because I don't think he'd go out there and play in these meaningless game. If they're growing was was a problem and look the Brown, obviously wants to be ready over these next three years to get the Lakers championship. But I do not fall LeBron one bit. If also in his mind, I'm trying to catch careen I should want that record. I think that's a great thing to shoot for. And I don't think he wants to give away games. I think he wants to play games. I think he wants to put up numbers. I don't fault him for that. At all all the players wanna put up numbers. And so I think he's going to go out there and play these games, probably thirty four minutes and nine I think is this Mark thing. This is about I'm sorry. This is about numbers. I think so I mean if I were in his position I'd be trying to catch Kareem that that's not mutually exclusive to try to win. I don't think he's going to do it at the expense of you know, I gotta get my point. So I'm not gonna pass the ball and make sure I got to be the leading score anything like that. But I think he's got a lot of goals in mind as all like, Michael Jordan said I want to win. But I wanna be the reason why and I think that's how superstars thinking I don't think there's anything wrong with that. As far as the back Tabasco. Let's be very specific about this. They only have three back tobaks left. The. Rest of the year. So it's so take three games off. Even if he's not gonna play at Detroit at Utah at the clippers on March fifteen twenty seventh and April fourth row, those we're talking about fourteen games. The rest of the way he was playing thirty five minutes per game before he got hurt. Now when he came back from injury. He was inexplicably playing thirty nine minutes per game right out the gate. That's what he averaged had a bunch of forty minute games. And then in the game where he broke repass, Jordan. He was down to thirty one minutes. I would imagine he's going to be. I don't think Brown's gonna play twenty ish anything I think it will be at least thirty minutes. Now having him do what they did in that game where he Jordan where he doesn't play the whole first quarter where you take him out midway through the first where you do more of a Dunkin with pop of its style in the regular season. When Dunkin wasn't on his last legs to where you target thirty two minutes. Like have that be your target in your goal? That is a reduction in minutes and not playing him back to backs. Also make sense. I I. I don't see this is where I disagree. I don't see the need to shut him down. And I don't see the need even to say you're going to play to the Anthony Davis plan where you're playing twenty minutes per game. I I know you disagree. See? But I think this is shouldn't be played forty minutes. Another game the game besides Adan point total to him playing. If he's gonna play thirty dollars in fourteen if the young boys are gonna play that looked everybody things are gonna have a totally new team. If they don't get Anthony Davis if they don't get Anthony Davis Kouzmin Ingram. These guys might be back. So you just get them used to play, you know, more time on according he's going to get a rest, you know, he's going to get to most more than he's ever had in the last one ten years. Okay. All right. So too much great. So what would three months four months, it's fine. But what's worse thing? Rest all summer if he wanted, but he's not he's going to get out there and start playing in as you live. He'll start working. So I think taking. These extra two months. I think it'll be fine. Okay. So what's the word? You wanna shut him down? Let's just let's I I'm in air. Lou. We'll have a conversation. What would be the worst thing could happen for the Brown suffer another man harder? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Because if he suffered injury would that affect free agency enormously? I would think so yes, I think it would affect everything major injury would affect a major industry. I mean, it would necessarily affect Anthony Davis trait. I think Anthony Davis was still want to go to the lake shore. But we majoring be bad. It's the worst thing that can happen. We all. So we don't have to partial part of if I could remove that part of the quesion. If that's the worst thing could happen. I'm getting in a car. I'm getting ready. Go somewhere worse thing could happen. Is you get in a car accident? Okay. And it'd be fatal if I could remove that aspect of it of traveling either that way or not going. Why would I take that chance? If everything is about winning the championship in year, two three and four of this contract. That's why believed that right now the Lakers. They don't have the right type of management because right now, it should be about getting these young guy some experience and salvaging the first year. Lebron James why put all those extra minutes because they do not help you get closer to a parade. Now. Lebron come to me a magic and say, you know, something I want to be out there playing. That's what I do. I can understand that. But I'm running the team. I'm doing what's best for basketball. And what's best the basketball right now is not to put any more minutes on LeBron James. We saw him out there. Yeah. He passed Jordan. But there was nothing else. Significant about him being on the court. These younger players it's up to the Lakers organization and for them to develop right now. We're out of the play. There's only eighteen NBA. They got a worse record than the Lakers right now. So I'm getting take the face of the NBA and I'm getting put another fourteen games on him. He's out of pace that we had never seen before it just this is not real complicated. This is just common sense. It makes sense. But he's gonna wanna play you know, that it didn't make sense. We're gonna play eighty two games last year, you know in regularly, but LeBron has amazes. Has amazes jockey a bridal Anna saddle Angela Brian James is no different right now. It's important of how much we go. Let him go get into the house because he's going to his skill is going to go down, regardless of what we think what we so for me. It would be about. How do I manage that? I didn't plan on being out of the playoffs man Christmas night. I'm sitting in the four spot. But this is my new reality. I'm out of the playoff. This thing is done. It's time to look at. How do I preserve that guy? So that I can get to a parental. It's not about anything else. But a parade out about I agree with you that whether he catches cream or not is a secondary storyline to whether or not he wins another championship. We all agree with that. Where you and I are on the other side of this is is I am not certain you keep saying two months is good for months, better three months as better. I'm not certain. That's the case for a guy who has played as. Sistani? He has had a routine he has had a routine for the last sixteen years that routines already going to be broken to a degree this year by not making broken because the Brian didn't have the gas to go to now lake Griffin sits down with Christine lady to play hurston ten on fair game. Blake Griffin of the Detroit Pistons, it is time for first in ten first thing you'd say to a love city reunion one day. Let's say you guys got to be in a room together for an hour with no entertainment. You just have to sit there and talk. You would think a lot of people like try to make that like it was like this huge toxic situation. So you and Chris Andre are all BFF's. I wouldn't say it be a fast. I don't think we ate each other. Yeah. Thank no. I mean, we. I s cast member. You would call the goat. I really like will Ferrell, but. Out say, we'll first thing. I'd find in your Google search history. The true. The blushing is giving me a lot. I five. I mean, I've gotten very honest answers with this when you can go ahead. Probably just like weird random. Stuff that out of context doesn't really make sense. The last thing I googled was probably like something like Detroit to Charlotte flight time or something like random like that. I do that all the time like any city. I'm going to always want to web cycle travel math. That's really good. If you're into like flight times and stuff. Why are you still concerned about the time is just like transit is a weird thing for me? I always like to know exactly how it's going to. It's not like nine win at this time Cy like just almost like to know weird. All right. I feel like there's more to this story. First thing you'd say to rivers if he walked into this room right now. And that's it came first thing you'd say if you were offered a job on inside the NBA when you retire. I'm good. I player you would have picked if you were one of the all star captains. Oh, probably Katie first reaction to teammate asking if it's cool to date an ex. Sure. You don't care. I mean, I feel like it probably depends on the ex-. But like. I don't care. So Derek Fisher, just cool. Well, that's kind of a different situation. Those that was like. It's an egg wife. That's a wise. That's an ex-. I've never been married. That's a little different than ex wife. Yeah. I probably it's that's okay. First thing you miss most about Los Angeles, besides family, friends, and the weather thing, I miss most. So it's family, friends and weather. Probably like a just a. My favorite like, restaurants and stuff like that. Crags? Shutouts crack first comedian you met you were an off. Dave Chapelle first time in the NBA. You really enjoyed dunking on someone probably more than you should have. I really enjoy the Kendrick Perkins one because he was such like tough guy. You know what I mean? He was a great defender. Like always kind of like. Was extra physical. So, you know, this this nice to get somebody. Following that, Shannon. Tell skip. Why Michael Jordan's message of congratulations still the Braun is an embarrassment. Weird to by route Parker, but first, Shannon. I. You're all was in war to that. Or do that get cut off room? Read it again. Read it again. One more time congratulate LeBron unachieved another great milestone during his amazing career, David Stern. Former Commissioner who is that. That was just the tone. That was rather. Right. You ought to be ashamed. But your guy you should be a saying that he put this out. This is embarrassing. And you know, what this is typical MJ though, because he's done very little when it comes to acknowledge LeBron James, you know, why? Because since he retired. This was the only guy that's been viewed as a serious threat to him Colby made it abundantly clear, he tried to emulate everything. Michael Jordan, emulation a copy can never be better than the original. And you know, he never do Toby every serious threat because you tried to be like meeting and Shannon. If you ever close, your eyes and listen to Kobe talk sometime he would swear was Michael Joel same inflec-, my rights. He did he copied not only did you copy you copy the way he won't. He did. He copied away. He hung his tongue out of his mouth everything the sleeve on Cavero down. Every the only, but he got a lot closer to Jordan. No, he didn't you can't be. You can't be close with only one regular season MVP. You can't be close with only two finals emptying the about five championships. So that was basically you see you see you see what you did. I didn't do anything. Go ahead. Let's go. Now, this is what Michael Jordan did for Koby in his final season when he came to Charlotte. Okay. One minute. If part is second video trip. None of this. Oh, congratulations. Lebron your nother mouth. The pride. You couldn't be me. It couldn't be me. 'cause he now now skill betas. I got to grand, but I got the tack you note that hack. Yes, it was a response can attack Michael Jordan boob job. And that's and give this ridiculous gin. That's all you got bad. Generic blue job of a message of a man does done that come on might you still? You always go to be Michael Jordan because you did it. I your shoes gonna keep you Mount, Olympus, but effort to it. Yeah. But you gotta do a better combo that rob Parker. No. I hear you, Shannon. The only thing more Barras in the net was the whole reception and ovation. Coby got here in LA the broad. Lebron got here in LA and just think about how that went down. And I think that says a lot it was totally I want to say, I totally disrespectful. But. To LA fans. I get it the season win awry, you could say LeBron as this wasn't a good leadership. You could say all of that. But in a magical moment like that when a guy's wearing your uniform, and he's one of the greatest players period whether or not he's played here long enough. What they did that night was terrible. And the same thing with his teammates. I mean, LeBron had to go. Find Caruso to hug him and said, hey, what's your name again suppose walking over to wear? Right. What you know what I mean? But if wasn't it wasn't like where was the players to come surround him letting you know and the goat. No other nugget unless you gotta go crazy out of respect keeping trade half the team at the dead low. But owner reminded you of when Barry Bonds hit two home run, and they didn't poor guy. And everybody hug you and home plate. He had to come in. He had to come into dug out to get the praise and the adulation and then the last offer that team. And the last part is I blame the Lakers as well. From this standpoint, they claim the NBA Thome. We don't want you to stop the game. What nonsense lebrons Jim gonna pass Michael Jordan? What find could they have given them if they stop the game and did something. So for them to just say, oh, the league said don't do it and buy into that. That's disrespectful abroad as well. But when it comes to, Michael, Jordan, it's obvious. They don't have a close relationship. But I think is because LeBron really is more like magic than LeBron Mike, Michael. And I think that's what it really stemmed for from. That's why a lot of other players when they talk about the goat. They include Koby, even though most of the conversation is about the broader, Michael and LeBron, but you know, this because Kobe had more that killer instinct that you talk about skip. That's what players e and that was wore like, Michael. And I think that's part of why maybe Michael hasn't had the same connection win. Lebron? And you're right. Probably the closest God really challenged, Michael. But, but I also believe that it's more about he's just not like what Michael one Michael was a killer, and LeBron's of friendly guy wants to get to know everybody. Hey, hey, two games on the line. I'll give you a chance to hear you go you shoot the ball. That's something that you didn't see it. I'm not saying that Michael never did that. But LeBron has done that way. Everytime. Magic stepped on the floor. He have a a million dollar smile. It was taking people out. So does this this notion that you gotta scowl, and you gotta wear frown your face to be a stone cold killer. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird with being. And I'll say this to you to stretch a shut that down the game is on the line. And you give the ball to Michael Jordan or LeBron James and win the game. Who would you give it to? I'm giving. I'm giving the ball. Lebron? No, you're not gonna give it to somebody. He's gonna pass it George hill. So he could miss free throws. You know, what Shannon? Stop it. You would not give the old ri- Jane? No. You you want to I want to talk about Michael Jordan us. I'm gonna read this comment that came down from Mount Olympus different way about him lift. Yes, it is. He lives on the top. I'm gonna give you this is the way it was intent K o his real store. I want to congratulate love Ron Janes on Chieveley another great mile zone during his amazing every year periods. Send it out. He said to the PR person type this, right? Yes. Get this is what you say when you feel compelled to say something because you're an NBA owner. Right. And you are that guy in so you have to say something, but you don't want to say anything. So that's what you say. He is fortunate that yet Michael Jordan has not yet gone full on. On hall of fame acceptance speech on LeBron James remembered speech, do you acid doodo all because on there's a big part of Michael because I think I know him well enough to know this who would love to just own Lieshan unload on LeBron James right now all in the mode of how dare you? How dare you right on your shoes on that night? Thank you MJ twenty three. And then put a crown on it. Thank you for inspiring me to be greater the you. 'cause I am the king. Not you. I am the game. How dare you do that? Remember, he said, he was the go. He knew when he was the golden crown bothered you that much really crying yesterday. I was looking bronze Instagram aren't even follow him. But I looked it up just to see what he's doing. And they're just crown emojis all over it is ground ground ground, and then he dares how dare him to to post a photo. Shop picture of can we see that? Jay like like their equals there. They're sitting on the same Aniston. Oh. He's got a little edge. A little bit artistic. On the left and going to ride the have hadline. Yeah. Do enough to right. He's saying I'm like, Mike exhibit. I'm better than my say. Yes, we we will know he's he is lucky that Michael Jordan didn't call a press conference yesterday and just unload all over him for the audacity put himself above Mike on death city. Really? Okay. Well, that's what I'm saying. But he went the nice way out because he felt like he I'd rather say, and you know, what this was enough to do with a big game. The nothing, Shannon. You should go. You to when Kobe past Michael Jordan and go see what they did in Minnesota for him. They go watch that video stop the game. And the fans went crazy own Koby anything, they understood the moment. Thank you. Thank you. Do not yet understand. Los Angeles fans. It is what have you done for us. They don't care about anything. That's happened outside of the Hollywood. I done for Hollywood. I get it. But my only thing is in that moment you have to if you are basketball fan recognize what's going on. You gotta give them more than that. I don't care about the fans the fans if you know what when he broke the record if they wanted to turn it in for the exit. So be it. I'm talking about an all time great NBA player given that little acknowledgement best less. That's nothing that's less than nothing. This is in bearing Michael Jordan should be embarrassed. And was a pretty good disks. Right. Like, a subtle diz. One question will will day when he passes Colby LeBron? And it happens in LA. We'll they boot. That's how would they embrace that? Do you think LeBron? Hold on it. Hey, I'm go one higher wait until he makes his run at cream. If in fact, he can last long enough to pass Kareem Abdul Jabbar in staple, I don't know, man. Even more I'm saying, here's the thing. Blue blue cheer cheer progress room rats. We roll it scale you can jump on the train those you'll get rolled over. Just left the track. The train is four and ten since LeBron came back from injury. We had to Rome conductor. We got we got the coke. Close so much for joining us. Finally, Nick, right draws a striking comparison between year six Jaanus and your six run. I'm totally about it. I think is right on the money. I mean, obviously, there are games are completely different. But the personality, you know, the lack of ego. But yet, you know, competitive driving me you see yon in the all star game competing four quarters. You know, what I mean that I mean, Tim Duncan was such a mellow personality. Everybody always used a thing. He doesn't have that killer instinct, no, he had the killer instinct, he was just a laid back type of guy. And that's what I'll see what John is there's no drama. Most of our teams Golden State. You got Drake mind, obviously, LeBron kyri most of our teams have a lot of drama of the top teams. Not. So with Janice. I think he's gonna that tones gonna be set throughout that organization. Similar to house. It Steph is done and Golden State. He's he wants to stay in the small town. He's talked about I'm not going to LA. I'm not leaving Milwaukee. Obviously Dunkin did the same thing as. Antonio so. Yeah, I think is right on the month, personality wise, I get all of it but career art career trajectory, and we're talking face the league wise year six Janas is year. Six LeBron years six LeBron the team won forty five games the previous season that year. They won sixty six. He wants I league MVP last year. Milwaukee bucks. One forty four games. They're on pace to win sixty two and Janas might very well win his first league MVP your six member. Lebron had gotten to the final four two years prior. Right. So he was LeBron came looked LeBron through a lot. Absolutely. And LeBron by year two was world's better than you. Honestly, I get that part of it. You're six LeBron twenty eight eight and seven years six Janas twenty seven thirteen and six and LeBron from I would argue a few seasons prior to his sixty year, but certainly by sixty or the best the universally accepted best player alive and Jaanus is working towards that maybe not universally accepted. But certainly some people are doing the best player. Live. I know you have an MVP vote. I said earlier I think this is going to be the closest VP race since Nashes second like him versus harden is going to come down to the wire. And I think Janas getting his team to sixty wins either winning or coming in second in the MVP. That's how you become the face of the league eighties that level of high level production and team success. And the other thing see when it about face the league who else is eligible, so like hardens too, polarizing almost like ju many people dislike the way Arden place. Kevin Durant right now seems to me to be he would need an image makeover, almost I think it's Jaanus or the guy that you think it probably could be in Steph like one of those two guys is going to be the next most forward-facing player in the league in Maya think Steph because he has their credentials believe he's also going to have the digital ring this year also him in clay, I expect them over the next several years to put up ungodly tight numbers. Do ten years. Roshan over forty percent from three point range by key. Is the perfect f-? Specially F K D it set up for Katie Lee, Katie lease. And then he stays there. He's the face of that franchise because I liked the comparison because that's what we have to do in sports. We have to try to take someone out of our past give him someone was someone who is currently. So that the fans can be like. Yes identified, but we can't take for granted. What Tim Duncan had when he got to San Antonio. He had injured David Robertson coming back. He a great prop of it, potentially one. The greatest coaches in the NBA stabilizes far as a franchise that, you know, someone you know, what we're getting ready to we're getting start looking at international basketball players. Like, no one's ever thought of and start developing them. We're going to put the perfect rosters far as defense shooting. Spacing. Also, you know, what I'm gonna do for you Tim before people do that. I'm going to rest you right before he has so many things in Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan. We know was a better player when he came. He came out of college. Man as the big fundamental. Yep. He had seven or eight post moves then we knew he was going to be a great player. So yeah, I liked the factor of some similarities small market and all that. But I think the fact that Tim Duncan he did have the fire, but Tim Duncan never once in his career had the desire to be the best player recognizes the best player in the NBA. And I believe that yawns he wants to be a great player and Janas has bought into. He should be one of the best players if not the face of the NBA, and I believe that that might be a pressure that might be too big for a young person because he doesn't even know what he's asking for. We know what LeBron went through it. We say Colby and shack report, we know what they went through. So this these days have been easy for Yang. It's the most difficult thing. He couldn't get into Mexican restaurant last year. What happens when he faces some real difficulty? Some real challenge realized speculation because he's done is exceed the give an expectation. Nations any given. And you're talking about a guy who wants to stay Milwaukee, a guy who enjoys the small town aspect of what his career could be could you be the face of the league from a small town was in Cleveland you could easily. Okay, see if Russ was a little different. He could be it or K D. I liked your point about Popovich. Remember booting Holzer came out of that system. Was there for nineteen years? So I'm sure he's gonna take a ton of that stuff and the plots Yannis, here's my only problem or I don't know the Janas could beat efface the league he could be the best player. Tim Duncan was arguably the best player, but never was the face of the league number one. We've never had an international player beat a face of the week. Number two. I don't like all the guys that have been the face from Dr J to Magic Johnson to Michael Jordan to Kobe and shack to LeBron. They've all had that swag about him net. Cool factor that that was beyond playing even if it was their game the flash in their game. You know? Magic with the passes and all that stuff yawn. If yon this offset before if he grew up in America and had that American swag. He would maybe all like he would be the guy that's going to be the face of the league. But he's more of a lay Bagai like, Tim Duncan. I don't know if he's colorful enough to be the face of the NBA, and I agree with you stole my thunder. If it's not going to be LeBron and k b lease Golden State. I would nominate Steph 'cause I think he'll go off and they still going to be a contender. So two things. One is one of the other reasons don't can was never the face. The league wasn't just as personality. It was his style. Dunkin was shooting. Backboard jump shots in the all star game. You know, Duncan was the big fundamental who of fault when it came to branding. Right. He didn't care about any endorsements. He didn't care about any of that Yana style is exhilarating. Yonathan? I'll play style of play is one of the most attractive in the entire. I don't think it's tractive as the guys we've seen because it's very. Very unique. We've never seen anyone play like him. So for me, it's not always exhilarating. Because like, wow, I never seen that man that took one dribble from thirty feet. So there's a lot of figuring out. I think aesthetically and more kids are you have to grow to game basketball. I don't believe you're honest is going to grow the game of basketball, by the way, he plays. Steph grew game of basketball. Lebron grew to game basketball. I were soon grew to game Jordan grew to gain. Kobe grew to game shack man shack slid on the floor and was looking side this shack, they changed. How kids the perception of the NBA, and I don't think that Janas has a stout the salad. I see I don't think that that's a style. Like, those other guys the other point you made and you made it in the morning meetings. He was the international aspect like we've never had a non American born player be the face of the live. We want to innovate to be international game. But I don't believe we want international face to represent. Well. So here's here's the aspect of that. Uh-huh. We've only once ever twice ever had an international player be good enough to be in the conversation Akeem and Dirk right and Dirk did it in an odd time where even when Dirk one is in BP. I don't think many people thought he was the best player in the league. Like he would have the best season and Keam that I don't even know it was Barkley the face of the league when Jordan was retired Jordan really love it one. There was a law, right? Trying to become the face leading probably would've but in Jordan came back. So right now, we're in a league where Jaanus embodied Lucas common. Immed- could if they got the personality and so is played at Kansas. I mean, if that helps you something I think the international thing is going to fall by the wayside at some point. Because we just have so many more draws in Petra Vitz was never gonna be facing the league. Right. You never you had guys that were excellent international players. But that was always the qualifier there. Excellent. Foreign international player. We have now had Jaanus Embiid. We've got multiple international. We're going to have an international work year might have an international MVP. You've got Joel Embiid who had NBP buzzed throughout the year. Probably until this injury really was going to be in the top five there. I think it's coming. It's possible that a few years from now the three best players in the league would be all international Embiid Jaanus and Luca. Right. And then the nominate two. Might become the face just because of their personalities, and and I would say probably Luca and in be because gazillion. Nugas because he's white. Let's I think that will work in his favorite to like like did for bird, and like it did for Steve Nash. 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