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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Know Show

The Know Show

08:32 min | 6 months ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Know Show

"Before we saw the show. I'd like to take a minute to ask you guys to help us. Keep the show alive by subscribing our youtube channels and on spotify. Nike's please also take time to follow instagram. at the no-show put those of you can help a little bit more. Please contribute or patriot account which can be found on our youtube videos and website to get access to all these links please visit. Www dot the no show dot net if you're already aware the no-show cost an initiative designed to make academic research accessible to everyone. Why is it that we spend billions of taxpayer money each year to fund some of the most amazing research but never really get to know. What's in it by opening up the latest research a much wider audience. Not only do we expand our knowledge and understanding of the world but we also inspire young people who otherwise wouldn't know anything about this book is time we. The people getting voted academic research. Even if he's just as listeners so we can truly make education a democracy so so thank you so much for joining me on the notion really pleased to have you thank you. I'm your research really interesting. I'm you look at something. That is not widely known particularly in the western world which is the indonesian genocide. And so tell me a little bit. About some of the circumstances that led to the indonesian genocide. This well it started that julie we consider it started the cold war between the u. s. and the communist bloc and at the time julie avocado was the first president of indonesia to side with any anyone yet he was one of the founders of the non aligned movement but then the american government wasn't happy so basically the attitude of the american government at that time was the you off for us or against it was. It wasn't enough for sukarno to be non-aligned That was the start and also other things such as the The west papua which was really rich in copper on real and goat and at that time foreign companies like exxon in freeport. The wanted to dig this. These wealth from papua in sugano said fine. That's fine but you'll get thirty percent and we get seventy percent and at the same time. Sugano was sending a lot of in donations to study. Cease he's plan was to replace all of these foreign workers with the local people with local in donations who had been sent overseas. But of course that that wouldn't happen A american government was not happy with the companies that bid companies would not happy with to know. Sir what baidu plotting against sukarno and against the communist party who was supportive sukarno at that time. So that was the stock end at the sukarno. Was the new president so hot dog with an agreement with these big companies and guests. How much is the percentage must have been ridiculous. Ninety eight on the not. Only the oko said is over. Ninety percent of the foreign companies and and the people of papua people of indonesia get nothing the the five ten percent went to suharto's his cronies. So how how how calm your coupled so sukarno get top. Bettys slowly really slowly so many theories. Eventually people still don't really know what actually happened on the thirty first september. This this is according to the out propaganda history. Yeah i'm going to tell you the propaganda and then i'm going to explain later. Got into the propaganda on the thirty first of september nineteen sixty five six general and one. Ad were murdered. And there were not only mood they were mutilated and raped by the left wing women and this was spread everywhere in the newspaper. And because of this they claim that the pk. I the as the indonesian communist party that the members were evil and that the communist women to be mad up because of what they did and give them an excuse to conduct miss murder but actually according to the autopsy there was. No there was no rape. That was no mutilation. The generals were murdered. Not raped or mutilated at all about who of another is what was it truly the. Pk no so it was just a pretext to get together to get. He's been against the pk. It was a pretext. People asked him when researchers are still guessing. Who actually did it. Who actually behind this. However in the mud happened early on the first of october the thirtieth of september but the of september and in indonesia it was it was abbreviated as guest up. Who which reminds people of guest. Apple of the german guests That's why i think. They maintain it they made in the air. Thirty of september and You know what the classification is. Yeah so i'm going to exit a bit. What declassify gatien yup so declassification as documents which Which secret declassified in different countries have different rules in in the uk Years in a medicare is every act amendment on the exit number. If i'm not mistaken extent when he finds fifty and seventy five thousand and fifteen is the fifth they. It's the fifty years of the hundred sixty five so many documents declassified at that time and that the american had been plotting in a way against the communist party in indonesia in the even mentioned that the pk. I the indonesian communist. Poppy head to commit a failed coup. Okay yeah to commit a failed coup so that that pretext to attack young this is in the documents. We don't make it up. It's not so just To understand okay. So this moment in time sukarno in government. Yes and so. What happens to sakarov when when when this of left-wing an alleged left-wing coup is is starring. Tom folk. okay so what happened. Was the radio the mass media..

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on This Day in History Class

This Day in History Class

07:21 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on This Day in History Class

"I install I found on the arrogance curse in. Its eyes are just very lifelike. Then what does it Ted? Keep. Spin. Scary Really scary missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your fico policy. Why never ever? Looks play with another doll. ooh Can just bury it deep in the ground happy gyco Wean, download the industry-leading GEICO APP today. Welcome to this day in history class where we bring you a new tidbit from history every day. Today was October first nineteen, sixty five. A group of Indonesian National Armed Forces members killed fix high-ranking Indonesian generals in a failed coup in Jakarta. The army linked the assassinations to Indonesia Communist Party, and for the next several weeks, the military detained and killed hundreds of thousands of communists, alleged communists and their sympathisers. The coup led to Indonesia's first. President. Sukarno being put on house arrest and General Harto being appointed to the presidency. President Sukarno had begun promoting system of guided democracy since he believed parliamentary democracy was ineffective in Indonesia. As, he began implementing a form of socialist populism he attempted to balance relations with the military communist and religious groups. He supported the Indonesian Communist Party and the army which was largely anticommunist though many in the military did support communism. Land reforms which the communist party pressured Sukarno to. For a major source of tension between the party Muslim religious leaders and the people who controlled the lanes. As Indonesian, Communist Party, gained more influence seeds of doubt grew among army members who were suspicious of the party's intentions and religious groups who were unsure of the party's views. Sukarno became more anti-imperialist and championed economic independence for Indonesia. But the economy declined due to a lack of effective policy. Western nations encouraged anticommunist efforts against the Indonesian, Communist, party Sukarno and the left. In nineteen, sixty, five, the Indonesian Communist Party had three million members and was the third largest communist party in the world. But by this time, there were rumors that senior army generals were planning a coup against the cardinals. And the early morning hours of October I the thirtieth September movement kidnapped and murdered fix of Indonesia's top military generals. The movement members announced over the radio that they had seized power to protect the president and forbid a military coup. The leader of the movement. Lieutenant Colonel in tune told listeners that the president will say that generals had been arrested and that there was about to be a new revolutionary government. But the coup was quickly the army claimed that the Communist Party was responsible for the coup attempt at the time there was not much evidence that the party had any involvement in the action against the military. But General Suharto Commander of the army strategic reserve capitalized on anticommunist intimate and quickly launched propagandistic attacks against communists. He shut down a communist and leftist publications while pro army publications flourished. The PRO army press circulated stories that the murder generals had been tortured and mutilated. Through this campaign, the army inflamed anticommunist feelings, and convinced people that the party was complicit in a huge conspiracy. The military took the opportunity to eliminate the political power of communism in Indonesia which it perceived as a threat. The army police and civilian militias. And killed communist and their supporters into Carta Central, and East Java and Bali as well as parts of other islands. The death toll has been estimated at at least half a million people. It was later discovered that some leaders in the Indonesian Communist Party did play a role in planning the coup, but most people in the party did not know about it. There are many conspiracy theories around exactly who planned the thirtieth September movement and what its goal was. The Communist Party was banned in Indonesia in nineteen sixty five and has been ever since along with any public discussion of the massacre. The military dictatorship that soon took over led by Suharto rolled Indonesia until nineteen ninety, eight with Western support. Indonesia became pro-western and the downfall of communism and Indonesia benefited capitalist country. I'm Eve code and hopefully you know a little more about history today than you did yesterday. If bear any upcoming days in history that you'd really like me to cover on the show. Give us a shout on social media at teased. I Eight PODCAST. 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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WORT 89.9 FM

WORT 89.9 FM

07:01 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WORT 89.9 FM

"He's with us. Alluded to some of the programs that I've done just me. Um and you know there's host every other everyday on a public affair, and there's lots of news and public affairs broadcasting, but I just want to remind you of just in the past few weeks I had had Matthew Lines talking about the far right. Deepa Kumar above terror craft Lisa Graves on Charles Coking and the attack the attempts to privatize the post office, the Great Eddie glowed. Talking about James Baldwin's America and Susan Rever Rever be talking about the Well, the underground left underground off the late sixties through the eighties, He was across six away 256 2000 more Mandrell. Chill. Come join us. Yeah, Another thing that you've talked about Alan is fascism. You had Bruce Franklin on and you and I have talked about it several times over the last year. This risk really risk of fascism? Actually, you and I have been talking about it for four years. We're way ahead of the pack on this and so for people who are worried whether Donald Trump's gonna leave office and he said last night that You can't promise to have a peaceful transition of power. I mean, it's not funny. Uh, this is serious stuff. And and Alan really has brought you the early analysis of the risk of fascism in the United States that Donald Trump poses. You didn't hear that anywhere else, really, until recently on any other stations, But Alan has been banging that drum and drawing your attention to the real risk that are Democracy is facing under Donald Trump. And so if you appreciate this work that Alan's been doing here on this show, please dial right now. 60, wait 256 2001 and pledge your support toward Thank you. Let's return to Vincent Bevins. Vincent. Clearly United States was on the offensive not because these third world countries were being overtaking or threatened or under the influence of China or the Soviet Union, but because they were looking to strike out. On any independent course. The true meaning of third World. Bracken known as thie, Nonaligned nations eventually talk about that. The fact that Sukarno Um, the leader of Indonesia called this Bandung conference in 1955 and how that was seen as a threat to the new imperial order. Yes, absolutely. As you very rightly point out. The countries, led by Indonesia, often called the Third World Movement were absolutely not aligned directly with the Soviet Union or China. Their entire there hold. The whole point of the movement was was to be non aligned. So that so Sukarno was what was that really the founding father of Indonesia, the founding father of the Third World Movement. Which I think it's I think it's worth spending some time to explain what third world means in this context, because in them in the jacket sinks leaders from places like Indonesia. Ah and Egypt in India created the third World Movement. That term has been quite degraded in the English language because of the races of muff of people speaking English language, But at what you what you had at the end of the Second World War was broadly speaking, the world divided in three You had the first world, which was the formerly imperial white powers, which would be Western Europe and the United States, all of him. Enraged and in a lot of formal colonization as they accumulated their riches. You had the second world, which was the thie group of countries either directly led by Moscow associated very close with Moscow. And then you had the third world, which is the vast majority of humanity, often finding for the first time themselves free from Direct and formal colonial control. Peoples of Africa and Asia and Latin America and the third world at this time really symbolized. They're very optimistic and forward looking hope belief, really, that that was since they would Vince. They were now independent from direct European colonialism. It was their time to take their place on the global stage. They would stand alongside the 1st and 2nd world as equals. And they absolutely think did not need to be formally aligned with Either Washington or Moscow in order to do so. And Sukarno, the very charismatic and very important at the time leader of Indonesia was somebody who brought together these countries in 1955, as you say, in Bon Dieu, an Indonesian city on the island of Java, the most the largest most populous island of this contribute in Asia, which is a vast archipelago of of of various ethnicities and languages. And just as he brought together, Indonesians Ah and brought together Indonesia's very diverse populations and cultures and religious and political traditions. He always worked with conservative religious groups, as well as working with the left us far is working with the very far left is where is working. So I was working with the Senate, right? He I thought he could bring together the third world through this vision of an anti imperial anti colonial. Struggle that would allow these countries really stand up on their own 2, ft. And in 1955, when when this conference was organized, United States did not like this, and this was the beginning of of the CIA is active attempts to crush A democratic Indonesia, which was led by Sukarno and which had the minor participation of a popular and Democratic Communist Party. So talk about the actual events of October 65. What followed go into if you will the U. S role. Um, the I known for a long time through other literature, writing on the subject that the CIA provided kill lists. Yes, lengthy lists of of Indonesian activists that were handed over to the Excuse me. To the Indonesian military and the civilian militia is the right wing militias who went about the slaughter. Yes, that's absolutely right. The so after a decade of trying various attempts to crush the Indonesian left through and a bombing campaign in 1958 by funneling money into right wing parties, after all of this failed you had CIA and my six agitate behind the scenes in 1960 for 1965 to create a clash between the very well armed and you US backed military and the unarmed but very popular Indonesian Communist Party understanding that when you have a clash between on I'm group in an armed group, the armed group can win. And when this clash did come about through very, you know, it's still a mystery..

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WORT 89.9 FM

WORT 89.9 FM

03:03 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WORT 89.9 FM

"Limiter from you State, uh, actually use the term, but it wasn't spontaneous. Um, it was coordinated as you alluded to already by U. S intelligence by the CIA, assisted by the U. S military and the State Department, and I think that's essential for an understanding of what happened. Yes, Absolutely. So the Indonesian Communist Party was one of the largest quote unquote problems for the U. S foreign policy establishment as it was constituted in the wake of World War two for over 10 years, the State Department the CIA, We're looking for ways to crush the world's their largest Communist party, and it's important to To know that this was an unarmed party, which had done very well in elections and that everybody recognized would have won elections if they had been allowed to continue in Indonesia. And this this final solution that is unleashed upon these really, tragically unwitting and unprepared civilians in 1965 was not, but was not the first attempt right? They didn't go straight for mass murder. They CIA and associative elements within the US government tried a number of different things to crush this rising anti imperial left leaning movement in the world's what is now the world's fourth. Largest country by population, but none of those worked. And they eventually landed upon this isthe this horrible method as I call it, but but it was part of a approach to the so called third world that was developed. Throughout the fifties and the early sixties from the He overthrow of democracy in Iran in 18 53 to the U. S backed coup in 1950 for in Guatemala. Toothy, probable CIA participation in a anti left a mass murder program in Iraq in 1963, which counted on the participation of a young and very violence man named Saddam Hussein. Over the years, Thie this the new power on the world stage the new the new first world country that was interacting with the formerly colonize Is world grew sort of tool box of ways that it could crush movements that it saw opposed to its interest. So it's absolutely right. Just the All these mass murder programs is interconnected and also right to see them is connected to a much larger process through which the United States Really some answered, said Germany over the countries that used to be directly dominated by Western European powers. You're listening to Vincent Bevin's author of the Jakarta Method. Washington's anti Communist crusade and the mass murder program that shaped our world. Give us a call at six away 256 2001 Pledge to w ar ti 89.9 F m. After all, as met, Rothschild alluded to a moment ago..

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

05:14 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"Seventy nine, the Sandinistas one. Ronald Reagan promptly begins funding the Contra rebels. I lean. Anytime lift ISH government. Popped up his head in Latin America the US kind Dan Hod Fanta military dictator. Guide systens, guiding the naked, the wink and the nod. We'll guide. The money will guide them a death list. Put troops on the granting foam of green berets. Help them conduct propaganda campaigns. Will scare the shit out of any left to see day to stay up to them. From? Just ruffling from seventy three, the Guatemalan military killed more than two hundred thousand people. The Salvadorian Civil. What took seventy five thousand lives? Argentina Killed Twenty thousand to thirty thousand. Eighty Communist extermination spread all across Latin America. Always with the assistance of the United States. Historian John Kites with concluded that from knowing sixty two naughty naughty. The number of victims of us-backed violence in Latin America. Vastly exceeded the number of people killed in the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc I've assigned Tong. There's a quite for you when people talk about the evil Communist. Say Yes. They're evil, but hey. US Bank violence in Latin America vast leaks say to the number of people killed by the side of gets in the eastern bloc from nine sixty to nineteen ninety. Indonesia today. They still under the belief that the Communists can spot and plotted. Caused. A gruesome death of heraldic general's. Luckily. Sahata was around degree gun control quickly and help rid the country of the Communist threat forever. There's a museum. which must be somewhere in Chicago I think. And As she walked in on a bizarre series of darkened holes, a series of Diorama installations tighty through the history of the party. Is the Communist Party. Demonstrating agent every time by tried the nation or attack. The military applauded to destroy Dijon. Down to reproducing Suharto's propaganda narrative about events of October nineteen, sixty five. There's not reference to the up to one million civilians killed as a result. At the exit, kids pies is in front of a big saw him, it says. Thank you for A. dioramas about savagery carried out by the Indonesian Communist Party. Don't let anything like this ever happened again. site. Point of this sees. As I said earlier today. Many people speculate that if unchecked Jonah could flex its Pale in control and subjugate smaller countries. That, it could force its will and communist agenda on this path countries. If necessary it would gile kill and terrorize vast populations to achieve times. In the terrible treaties that facility the US is being conducted the same sort of terrorism campaign. We feed the Janis. We'll start. And Nice people on a way of just how badly America's behaved so. D Listener. I really highly recommend. This book the Jakarta Math Point Vincent Bevan's. Guys into enormous day tile. Lots of footnotes and references that'll side the personal stories of different individuals caught up at different points in these tragic stories and. It's a story. We need to understand and. And we need to keep that in law, and when we a feist what I see all the time at a moment. Of this eighty China rhetoric fine. But the response seems to be so we must saw with the Americans and I just hype. The this podcast gives you some reasons why that might not be a good idea. Aim Idealist next week. Episode two hundred sixty it. We will celebrate five years of having done this podcast. Happy can join us will be live streaming on a Tuesday nodded seven thirty home. See then. Fotheringham's here. Faced Glove. Congratulations Sean foyers of entertaining. And Informative podcasts. Twelve man. Feared not feel wise counsel. You'll come. Rides would have argued in ever decreasing circles until eventually disappearing their own..

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

03:31 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

"Exactly Lou what took place in those moments, but is that essentially when the the the mass killing went into effect, and how systemic was. Yeah, so there is a small, but failed uprising certainly led by military leaders, perhaps with some tacit support or from the Communist Party perhaps not at all, but it's there's a small military uprising that doesn't make a lot of. There's a lot of things that don't make sense, but immediately so hard to. Takes Control of the country ignores the fact that President Sukarno's still technically the president. Shuts down on media that he does not control and puts out this horrible propaganda story that the Indonesian Communist Party specifically the feminist wing. The women's movement, of the of the Indonesian Communist movement had taken these generals to a horrible Dan where they were. Slowly tortured, castrated and murdered in some kind of a Marxist tantric. Murder Ritual and this this propaganda story, though we know now from defense, right files and everybody knew was the. was intentionally I us. And British Officials helped to spread propaganda story immediately recognized Sahara as the as the president or as the leader of the country. When those who was really the president supplied material. Help to him as he began to. Oversee the math arrest of anybody that was on the left, and when people went into jail, they often believe they were just going in for an interview as I said these people were part of an unarmed hardy, the head in a very successful elections, regular people that were in the initial Communist Party or affiliated with. That had no idea that they were like. They were rebels that they were. This was not like people that believe they were the bad guys. They thought they would go in to the police and explain whatever you know. I don't know anything about what happens. Jakarta and and maybe out. But instead of that happening one million remained in concentration camps. For the next decade or so and approximately one million, maybe less maybe more. We don't know because nobody's ever cared enough to really look. We're taking out in the middle of the night or When nobody was looking and I. In turn into a river, or disposed of and other ways and this it happened different ways in different moments across the country music. It started in the West. Moved East folly ends up being probably the most. Widely code. But it is through this murder. It is through the elimination of one million or two million leftists. And consequence silence. That's hardly able to take power, because if if it were not for destroying Sukarno's base, destroying the one third of the country that was passionately left wing would not have been able to take power, but after just throwing these people physically and making all their friends and relatives terrified of speaking out, he was able to take control, fully nineteen, sixty six, and immediately get the full backing of the United Sates, an invited with open arms into the quote, unquote free world, and that's when all the World Bank and IMF loans come pouring in. Every everyone comes pouring in. It's There's there's big parties and upscale hotels celebrating business opportunities for American corporations, and in Indonesia become his most important ally for the United States in Southeast Asia and the Cold War. What examples do we have of how.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

05:38 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

"Do in the run up to the soir coup in sixty five to I. Guess a promote this type of thing. I mean it starts with they they they have sort of three. A, three pronged policy don't. Three three attempts to get rid to crush communism or to end this sort of left. The end the end, the rise of this left alone country the person they start trying to bribe. They start paying off. Right wing conservative parties to hope that they could win elections. This doesn't work. The Communists continue to win more and more in nineteen fifty eight. There is an actual CIA. Invasion of the country based on the Guatemalan they have. American pilots dropping bombs on these on these tropical islands and killing civilians. This fails because one of those American pilots crash lands. Is caught, and the whole thing is discredited. The whole thing is is very publicly. Exposed by Takarno and everyone in the on the left that says hey I think the united. States is trying to destroy our country. There proved right hostettler under he was young was who are the people bombing I mean? What was the story that was floated like these bombs are just happening. There supposedly. The government AH bombing them. No there were there were regional rebellions. There were islands that had Indonesian people that were working with this guy that were rebelling against the central government, and so the CIA and the State Department story was not known to helping them just in a nation's. People in Jakarta were saying wait wait. These people have weapons no one in Indonesia. How how? How are they doing this and? Play on. How do you playoff? You know a ragtag rebels with the capacity to bomb people from bombers. Leah. This is the there was a really strange exchange, because like this kind of gets to the heart of the dynamic between the United. States in the third world at this time, even though the central government, Jakarta new the CIA was bombing them. They didn't want to accuse the United States of that to their face because they didn't want to provoke them and the New York Times article sort of saying. They're you know they're? They're paranoid. There's no way possible they they even they they hold back from. Directly accusing the ambassador until it becomes a very very clear, what's really happening and that that leads to a shift in? US policy towards Indonesia. That continues into the Kennedy Administration. And they and so. talk about like I guess the. The other factors that led up to that COO. Yes, so after they realized they could take on the army and Indonesia with this direct invasion, they totally ship tactics, and they begin working very closely with the army, bringing them to Kansas to train under her US. military officers, and under Jeff K, who in the fifty s was one of the few people in the US foreign policy establishment. There was saying hey. I think the people of the former colonial world have a right to choose their own destiny. We shouldn't be treating anybody. That's neutralizing enemy. She for the first three years of his. The. There's only a few years in total during his. Administration and so these assassinated he there is a more or less uneasy peace with with Sukarno where on the one hand they are backing the military and trading the military but still maintaining good relations with. The president, and at the same time very uncomfortable with the fact that the Communist Party even though elections were. Stopped after that Indonesian. very uncomfortable factor that they are gaining more and more members so by Kennedy's staff. The Communist. Party is by far the largest communist party in the world outside of the Soviet Union and China and probably twenty five or thirty percent of the country, isn't it? And when Kennedy died LBJ changes tactics. He doesn't want to continue to maintain this uneasy alliance and they bring in a new ambassador and CIA and Emma six. We know now from declassified files. are agitating behind the scenes to cause a clash between the right wing, us-backed army, and the unarmed left-wing, Indonesian Communist Party knowing very well, then clashes between a military in an unarmed. Party, the military is going to win under very mysterious from stances. This is what happens in nineteen sixty five this clash up into this day. We still don't know exactly how it around, so we know is that when it does? The US sees this as an opportunity to do what it's been trying to do for ten years across Indonesia Communist Party and the through the ethically back and assist the Indonesian military. In the intentional mass murder of approximately one million people. Okay so And I WANNA just back up a little bit, so the. From Day, one as their training people at. Leavenworth or Fort Leavenworth and you write about how like you know. The the military would take these these Indonesia and military guys out like strip clubs and there was. From day one was there a a agenda to indoctrinate. and to just build these relationships I mean the whole thing you know I mean i. I find amazing about this is like I didn't. There was little history of this taught me when I was you know, but I was very aware of like school of America's and I was very aware of of Honduras and Guatemala and and in were. Yesterday in. Chile and but this this part of our history was sort of like Why Leavenworth as opposed to let's say.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

03:14 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

"Indonesia leading up to the time where you are. Are you know the the main focus of the book in the in the mid sixties but give us. Give us a sense of that history leading up their. Fourth most populous country in the world it's a very important nation, and it was very important in the years after World War Two when Got Independence from Dutch colonies, so Indonesia's essentially everything that the Dutch used to control in Asia, and this was a very important part of the history of capitalism history globalization. This is where this is where Columbus was trying to go to get the spices. This is the the sort of one of the deepest parts of the the relationship between the imperial world in the in the world, and in the at the beginning of the Cold War of president named Sukarno who brings together a lot of different stranded in Indonesia and. leads something that is called the Third World Movement. He brings together the countries of the Post. Colonial world special specifically countries from Africa. Asia in the attempt to sort of. Stand up to the countries that used to dominate them and take. Their rightful place on the world stage so so now we hear the world the term Third World and it sounds derogatory, but at the time it was very optimistic. and forward-thinking projects now United States, at the beginning of the third world at first thought that Sukarno in Indonesia. Were tolerable this changes in the nineteen fifties for two reasons one. Is that the Indonesian Communist? Party which was always an unarmed moderate party, taking part in elections was doing very well at the polls this this really worried. The CIA and Sukarno's anti imperial anti-colonial alliance with the other countries of the Third World. Again caused a lot of consternation Washington, so the CIA starts nineteen fifty five. to carry out a number of attempts to either the left in Asia or to remove Sukarno then Tom and. I, mean the and we should say in fifty five was sort of the I guess I. Don't know you tell us what was that? The the height of that non-alignment movement because that's that's whence Sukarno hosted the Bandon. Come conference correct. Exactly this is, this is the first foundational moment of what leads little, Non Aligned Movement, and this is the the pro allowing movement Sukarno's behind bundling and fifty five, and he's a huge part of the nineteen sixty one meeting that formed the Non Aligned Movement and in Belgrade Yugoslavia. I I'm sorry. No continue with the history. I just wanted to sort of like a a a a put that in there. The. I mean I think you know. For for many of us, the first instinct is to think that there was a lack of sincerity may be that it wasn't you know like how real was the fear of communism at that point and I? I wonder if you know just. Narrowly in this era that whether it was. How much of how much of the threat was non-alignment? If you know how much of that was, where was that intersection of the feeling of threat of.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Heat

The Heat

08:10 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Heat

"We have one his testimony from a State Department officials who worked at the embassy in Jakarta. Who said that he gave lists of unquote communists to the Indonesian military so that they could be killed and I spent a lot of the last three years speaking to the victims of these specific interventions. If you ask them very clear who's world we live in now? We live in a world created by the ultimate and some terrible victory of the United States in the Cold War. The United States history of Anti Communism and intervention in foreign nations has had a deadly impact from Asia to Latin America and beyond round the world in pursuit of political and economic interests. The US has liberated many from anti-democratic governments but in many places such as Indonesia Brazil elsewhere with US intervention has given rise to brutal dictatorships and left millions dead house the US learned anything from post interventions to what lengths does it still interfere with the sovereign rights of other countries. And who pays the price? When a nation as powerful as the United States pursues its own interests over the self-determination of another nation. And its people. Hello I'm on and ninety. Welcome to the heat. Podcast A new book fresh insights into US Intervention Vinson Bevan's and American journalist and author has recently published the Jakarta method Washington's Anti Communist Crusade and the mass murder program that shaped our world. He joined us on our television show from Sao Paulo Brazil. Let's listen before we get into the specifics. The title of Your Book. The Jakarta method. What does that refer to winter? Method is the intentional mass murderer of innocent civilians and this is done in the Cold War for a very specific purpose to construct white right-wing. Us Allied regimes and the apex of this story is in Indonesia. Nineteen sixty five when the US BACK? One million innocent people and this was one of the most important successes of the. Cold War should obvious success to other allies of the US in around the world that they copied methods from this mass murderer. In in South America specially in so this is They named that plan. Jakarta operate in Jakarta. So the the the method was based on this horrible massacre in the nation's sixty five or let's talk about Indonesia. It's a country that was colonized by the Dutch should was also invaded by the Japanese and the aftermath of World War Two We had the Cold War of course but President Sukarno wanted Indonesia to be independent. He wanted it to be a neutral. He visited the United States. He met with the president in Washington. The also visited Moscow with President. Chris Chalk what kind of future did Sukarno one point in Asia? So Yeah Sukarno. We forget this now but Indonesia the large the fourth largest country in the robot population was led by Sukarno who was one of the most important leaders of the Third World Movement and we think these days of the third we think in negative terms but the third world project was a very optimistic forward thinking plans to bring together the countries of the formerly colonized continents Africa Asia and Latin America to change the rules of the Global Order. And they wanted to do this. Not by aligning directly with Washington not by aligning directly with the Soviet Union but taking their own path towards a more developed an independent future. Now in the earlier's after World War Two ended the United States thought that they could tolerate Sukarno in this movement in general and but as the nineteen fifties came around the United States changed their attitudes towards Sukarno started A number of schemes to either get rid of him or to crush the left in his country in our read the book. It's a great book. Read two days. Actually it's very readable as full of facts. You're not in your book that the US strategy since the nineteen fifties was to destroy the Indonesian Communist Party. Why was the USO focused on Indonesia? And where did it focus into something known as the domino theory we so Indonesia was by far the most important country in Southeast Asia. Far More important than Vietnam just mean if we give value to the domino theory in in Asia was a much larger domino than Vietnam could ever be and as I said. Sukarno was spearheading this global movement. Which was really you know. Shaking the global order and had the potential to to transform relations between nations in the Indonesian Communist Party. One of the Communist Party is in Asia founded before the revolution of moderate compared to what people think of as a Communist Party. Now they always were on arm. They were winning elections and we know now from declassified files that what bothered Vice President Nixon at the time in the fifties s is that they were going to win because they were so popular so they were not tricking people winning elections. They were just being the best organized. And doing the best outreach for the indigent people so this is a real problem for Washington not only. Is this country trying to change the global order but there is a large communist party which is getting more and more powerful and in the middle of the nineteen fifties. They start really trying to take down. The peaky is is called. Apartheid culminates in Egypt. But in any way they can and to get rid of Sukarno in any way they can and there wasn't a selection of that any communist party anywhere in the world would automatically be subservient to the Soviet Union. Yes yes I mean. This was this is part of the Anti Communism that I outlined at our so much of. Us foreign policy in the second half of the twentieth century of the kind of fanatic Lindsey communism powered forming foreign policy is not the same as simply not being communist or is being opposed to even is a very specific way of viewing the world in which no one could be even moderately socialist in the third world without being automatically assumed to be subservient to Moscow and this was not the case. In many many cases Sukarno himself was never a communist though he did tolerate and allow the Communist Party to operate in his democracy and as the Indonesian Communist Party grew into the largest party in the world had so many members and they were so confident in their own way of doing things that they didn't really feel the need to take orders from anybody. They were a turning on getting mass membership of the Party. So by the middle of the sixties ahead twenty five to thirty percent of the country either affiliated with or really in the party and it just it was just wrong that anyone around the world. They call themselves. The socialist or communist was part of some international plot to destroy the United States. Sukarno tried for a very long time to maintain good relations with the United States. Became very clear. That was no longer possible. But it's it's certainly what he wanted. There is no reason for him to pick a fight with the most powerful nation in history now in nine hundred sixty five and nine hundred sixty six there was a massive onslaught against the Communists in Indonesia. Your referred to that in your book and you saved was a coordinated program of extermination in total. It's estimated that between five hundred thousand and two one million people were slaughtered and one million more herded into concentration camps. How deeply was the? Us involved in that very deeply so there are still major things. We don't know about exactly when the idea came about to carry out mass murderer as the solution to the problem of the UK. I usually communist party but we knew the Washington been pushing to get rid of the guy for ten years so nine hundred fifty five. They tried to bribe a conservative Muslim party and tried to get them to win elections in to network in thousand fifty eight the bombed the country directly trying to break into piece this network in nineteen sixty four next night. It's fifty five. We now know that. Cia six were agitating behind the scenes using the covert operations. Technology is available to them to try to cause some kind of a clash between the left in the right in Indonesia. Knowing very well at the right would win because the right was the. Us Back Military Cheddar weapons and the left was unarmed party. Now to this day it is mysterious. How exactly that clash came about what we know very well? Is that as soon as General? Suharto US this clash to take power of the country. Shut DOWN ANY MEDIA. That would contradict his propaganda. Spread propaganda blaming this clash on the Communist Party the US assisted every step of the way. They were very excited about what's happening. They encouraged more violence. They provided material support when necessary but it was very little needed. Because.

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Chapo Trap House

08:05 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

"Know a was to arm and up and support a separatist movement Within Indonesia a an armed insurgency to to undermine Sukarno but I think my favorite one is the most James Elroy thing I've ever heard of happening in real life and I've actually read about this before but this is the first time I've ever encountered it anywhere else. I wanted to talk to you about it. My one of my favorites Plans of all time which was to hire a a Mexican guy make him look like Sukarno with makeup and film a porn with him. Yeah that would then be released in Indonesia and undermine his credibility and higher bing crosby to brink bing crosby was the producer of this of this film. Who Do we know anything about the actor that that they cast in this? There's like various like racially insensitive terms. You you can find an extent literature of either whether he was like Chicano or Chicano looking Mexican American looking they tried to get pornographic actors active in Hollywood and they try to create a fake sex tape and the idea was and this is a really interesting thing about like the United States as an entity right because all these guys are Yale Blue Blood Protestant guys and what sort of think in very American way that the rest of the world has the same morality as they do so they don't realize that every they don't realize that everybody Indonesia already knows that this guy has loads of sex all the time and and nobody cares so it's really famous. That Sukarno is at one point. He has like several wives but so they think they're going to destroy his reputation so they hire actors in Los Angeles Bing crosby and his brother Larry. I think it is produced the film According to our reports and the ideas are going to say that KGB did one honeypot on him and now he's the KGB controls him because he had sex with of Russian blonde girl so it was going to be like. I think there's different reports that they were gonNA put them. They put the actor in bald week because they wanted to make him look all which was going to make him look like they thought that Indonesia's would no longer respect him if he was bald and look like shit and they also put a mask on this Mexican maybe guy to make him look Asian Indian. They did not release the film not because they thought this was a horrible thing to do to the founding father of one of the most important countries in the world but because the film which is like Shit like they knew that it wouldn't were. You need the industrialized magic is yeah I think now I think now you could just say it right never will just believe it but I in that same period. We now know the CIA authorized this assassination but again didn't go through with it and nineteen fifty eight. This was number two to stop. Sukarno the PK. I as I said the bombed Indonesia and then this is again. This is like totally the memory hole at the time. This was the largest operation that ever been undertaken and the reason that we know that happened is because the pilot crashed his plane into one of the islands and got caught. He had is identifying papers on him. His name was Alan Pope and for all of Nineteen fifty-eight the left wing of an Asian. Politics was saying I think the United States is trying to break our country into pieces and the US ambassador who didn't know about the invasion. Because he was brought in precisely so he would not know was saying like what are you talking about like? That's crazy and then like an American guy just got caught on the island so yeah I mean this was sort of phase two of their attempt to get rid of Sukarno and they tried every single thing they could and they were very badly discredited by this failed invasion right so the left side of Indonesian politics sort of proved right Sukarno. Even though he couldn't even you know no matter how much he wanted to be independent of America he couldn't stand up to Washington at this point. He still had to sort of pretend that it was. Okay I mean this is the this is USA really was at the time you mean countries in this part of the world including Vietnam. They really wanted to make. America think that they were not their enemies. They really wanted to stay on good terms with them so even after the book the country. He's still straight stayed sort of friends with the United States but he he moves slightly closer to the Soviet Union and the United States ships its tactics and starts training army officers in Kansas. Thousands of them With the idea of instead of taking the military on directly bringing them to America taking them to strip clubs giving them loads of money and getting them to believe in American values. Whatever that is and trying to trying to train anti communists in Kansas and in one of the characters in the book like spent a lot of these nights out with these guys in Kansas and sort of understood what they were going through back in America after after the invasion that was that was the first attempt to get rid of Sukarno but then like how how do thing like like really ramp up with Can you talk about the guy they choose to do? The coup General Suharto. Like as an like. Because you talk about like how this this next. Phase the the usual forms of subversion or overthrow of a government. Who's not in the fold of US hegemony in work and then like then they're going just like straight to like the death squad options like how do they do. They start doing and like like how. How does it become like did? What were the steps? They did to lead up to this genocide. Exactly so for nineteen fifty eight hundred sixty three or so their training officers in the United States but they still kind of maintain the idea. There are GONNA be friends with Indonesia and then two things happened John. F Kennedy's murdered Lyndon Johnson changes tactics. Because he doesn't want to spend the political capital to keep Sukarno onside he doesn't want to have to justify in Congress. Why he's on such terms with a quote communist and he withdraws the ambassador that supposed to be friendly with Inisia- and brings in one of these ambassador that is obviously going to do with WHO. Everybody knows that's why the ambassadors brought in secondly Sukarno picks a fight with with the United Kingdom over the creation of Malaysia because the so the United Kingdom Draws Malaysia into weird shapes on purpose to weaken the left in Southeast Asia. In a way that I think a lot of people are familiar with in in Africa and the Middle East like one of these imperial tricks where they draw lines across the map to make sure that the left can take power and Sukarno picks a fight as a result of these things the shift that LBJ shift in this fight with with the UK who is very important at the time to Washington because Washington and need to make sure that The the western powers were not standing up to them on Vietnam the CIA mix start talking about a plan and we only know about this through declassified documents. We don't know the entire thing but we know that they start saying repeatedly that they were going to try to create a clash between the army and the Communists and that clash would ultimately results in the army. Victory in crushing. The left because left in Indonesia had always been unarmed party. That believed in constructing socialism like fifty years from now so their ideology was. We're going to build bourgeois capitalism. Anti imperialism is first and then in the year two thousand. We're going to build socialism. They had no. They had no sort of Maoist theory of armed struggle so in nineteen sixty five. This class happens in September at the end of September. Nineteen sixty five. There is a small office uprising. Which is meant to kidnap a few officers? We still to this day. Don't act nature of this uprising. But the clash has been created right this this this confrontation between the army and the PK. I that that Emma six and see I wanted to create. It happens and right away now. All of this is declassified and in the book I can I lay out exactly what the ambassador saying. They realize he says it's now or never write this chance to crush the the Indonesian Communist Party so the army specifically to guys who were trained in Kansas. They activate then.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

Chapo Trap House

06:20 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

"Back with a bonus episode for you this week This time it's me and Matt joining you with a guest who has joined us. We're speaking with Journalist Vincent Bevan's about his newly released book the Jakarta method about the Indonesian genocide in the early nineteen sixties and the long shadow cast over American foreign policy. And really the pretty much. The lives of everyone on the planet That we lead continuing into the twenty century. So Vincent thank you very much for joining us today. Yeah thanks thanks for having I guess like just like the to start off with like from because you know your book is kind of about how this is like a a major forgotten chapter in the history of the twentieth century and the history of this country certainly but just start from the broadest possible perspective. A what was the Indonesian genocide. When did it happen like who carried it out? And who did they kill and why? Yeah so this was As you said very important but forgotten I think is probably the most important turning point in the Cold War and probably the most important victory for the site that ultimately one which was the construction of sort of a capitalist world order but it happened in nineteen sixty five it was the. Us assisted execution of approximately one million innocent people. These were mostly members of the Indonesian Communist Party which was the largest party in the world at the time and it was an unarmed moderate party that had won elections for most of its existence. And this was done so that. Suharto the us-backed dictator could take over and when he did take over in nineteen sixty five. You replace Sukarno. Who was very important leader of the left leaning Third World Movement at the time and then after Suharto was in there you never hear about Indonesia again because he is a faithful. Us ally and despite the crimes that allowed him to take power in the horrible crimes that he continues to commit in his own country and in the region he just kind of fades into the memory hole for decades and decades. I'm a like a big part of what you talk about is how important. Indonesia was overall Cold War strategy and I remember reading a long time ago from Known Chomsky who talked about how for from the perspective of US state planners America had already won the Vietnam War by nineteen sixty five because of this genocide. 'cause you explain that and also like give us some perspective about how just how just how big a success this genocide was from the US policy perspective the absolutely so in the early sixties basically everyone in the US foreign policy establishment agreed that Indonesia was far more important than Vietnam so Indonesia's now the fourth largest country in the world by population Sukarno who was this leader of this global movement to oppose the hegemonic order as it was taking shape in the first decades after World War Two. Perhaps I'll just go back and explains Inonesia's Sweden Asia is thirteen thousand islands. It used to be dominated by Dutch colonialism. Right the only thing that brought these thirteen thousand islands together one hundred years of brutal European colonialism so in nineteen forty five after the Japanese kicked off these islands because they invaded during World War. Two when they were aligned with Nazi Germany President Sukarno. Who was this very? He's like a founding father more than a president right so he was a real visionary he brought together the different religions and ethnicities and kind of political strains on these islands to create Indonesia right and in the early years of the Cold War. He was seen as somebody the United States could deal with more or less. They didn't like that. He was left leaning. They didn't like that he was Marxist friendly. They didn't like that. He was such a strident anti colonialist but for a long time it was seen as okay like he could he could exist in this world order that the United States was now leading as it emerged from world. War Two is the most powerful nation in history but the problem was in the nineteen fifties the Indonesian Communist Party the. Pk I which is the Oldest Communist Party in Asia. They started winning more and more elections right and we know now from declassified documents the CIA and the US embassy in Jakarta. They knew that the reason they are winning these elections because they were the best organized and they were doing all the things that a party should do. They were going out and talking to people in convincing people they can improve their lives so in the first part of the fifties not only is the. Pk The party doing really well in. Nineteen fifty. Five Sukarno organizers this hugely important meeting of the countries of Africa and Asia. It's the nineteen fifty five von. Doom conference as he calls it. It's the first ever meeting of the so-called Colored People's in the history of the world and the idea is to stand up to hundreds of years of European colonialism in create a new world so the Third World in the most positive sense of the first world had their try. The second world is a Soviet Union and its allied countries in eastern Europe. And we're going to be the new unity that overthrows this order and takes place on the world stage and these two things really bothered Washington Sukarno leading this movement along with other leaders from India and Iraq and that the Communist Party was just doing better and better and so the first thing that the United States tried to do was to bribe other actors in the political scene so they tried to give loads of money to the right-wing Muslim party and In elections and that just didn't work right so then they so in the middle of the fifty s in an Asia goes from being. Oh it's a former colonial power to postcolonial nation that we can kind of deal with to being something they're trying to solve and then the entire sort of the young. Cia APPARATUS KICKS INTO FORCE IN. A lot of a lot of varied ridiculous ways in the nineteen fifties. Oh that reminds me. This is one thing from the book that I really wanted to talk about. And you're talking about the How Sukarno became this bogeyman in Washington as a potential challenge to America's postwar Gemini. And that there were a bunch of things that the CIA one of them of course will talk some more better. I don't.

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WNYC 93.9 FM

09:00 min | 1 year ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Three years ago there was an attempt by the current president Joko Widodo to open up these doc chapter in Indonesia there was even talk of digging up mass graves and of an official apology offered for the mass killings but this angered and unsettled many in the military and political elites as well as Muslim organizations that have taken part in the pooch before I left the house of self confessed killer board hand he makes his views clear on the president's reconciliation attempts Hey on the metabolism check up on you I'm Lou hands said that if the government apologizes if the president has the audacity to apologize for the mass killings in nineteen sixty five he will be the first that will go to the presidential palace and confront the president and threatens directly to kill him it is this level of intense backlash that shut down the process completely even I who has been believing in the concept of reconciliation I see now that the society is not yet ready to reconcile so I do not push my name is Abu Yahya I am a retired lieutenant general and my occupation is the governor of the national resilience institute of the Republic of Indonesia his father was one of the generals killed during the alleged coup on the thirtieth of September nineteen sixty five and he led the military delegation in the failed truth telling and reconciliation process three years ago he blames the leftists phony playing the victim as he sees it and not wanting to admit to their own human rights abuses including a localized armed uprising in nineteen forty eight the leftist side when they talk about nineteen sixty five it was always putting themselves and sometimes glorifying themselves as victims they never sent anything about the Indonesian Communist Party before nineteen sixty five and that actually there were killings also over the Indonesian Communist Party that was done before sixty five and also massive nineteen forty eight the way that pushed for the policies in a forceful way one secondly from the other side from the government and military science it was a sort of a mindset that the state can do no wrong so the military is frightened to be held accountable by us on the opposite side of the combination of their freight that all things about the Communist Party would be open before nineteen sixty five this coming from a moderate reformists figure in the military shows just how deep the divisions the Communist Party is still banned in Indonesia students of even being detained for just wearing heavy metal C. shirts with what they didn't know who will communist symbols on them and these claims of arrests a less surprising than it seems as I realized when I was with Joe Joe made an extraordinary admission that the communist threat is being kept alive for a reason the myth against communism S. the Latin dangers has a value to enforce that there is a need also not to forget about Islam if sense of completion dies then the sentence or urge to have a feeling of the importance of religion in the society can also diminish so you're saying that the threat of communism is being kept alive for political purposes a sort of a sort of because it can be easily transformed into other interests children is still not told about the mass killings in schools there were no details about them in the official history books only that the Communist Party was wiped out after an attempted coup but on the internet groups are breaking the silence providing alternative sources of knowledge for those willing to see kids we're in a small apartment in the center of your content looks out over the sprawling metropolis and the evening call to prayer is ringing out from the nearby mosque and around the small kitchen table he acts at the members of in that anomaly mountain remember sixty five hello my name is pretty fascinating me I'm one of the initiators of Molina and that's a digital storytelling movement for young people in Indonesia to tell their stories and reflection about what happened in nineteen sixty five in Indonesia in a cinema Lima is a website run by a group of young journalists I hope that it can become a space for the young people born after sixty five to share their stories about their family about their communities and how in nineteen sixty five affected their lives the young people because they started to find out about nineteen sixty five have something to say about it they want the country to continue talking and how the truth telling process in Indonesia or maybe they want the reconciliation process or maybe they want justice who knows but he had an amazing space for the young generation to join in the conversation about nineteen sixty five it's not an easy task for these young journalists given the current climate since the failed reconciliation attempts views have if anything hot and meetings of survivors and screenings of documentary films about the killings have been shot down by vigilante groups he says what the police say you go back then K. feature film people K. at feet see they've been talking about the fact that is quite a frightening time at the moment when they set up this group back in two thousand and fifteen things were very different there was a sense of optimism that this period of history would finally be told but now the offices and the people they asked to contribute to their website too frightened and how to do that and they can no longer expect people to use their real names photos they say now they have to be more creative it took me about the possibility of using comics or illustrations to get around this new sense of intimidation that's hanging of Indonesian economy back in two thousand fifteen I feel that there's nothing to be afraid of now the situation is different the president once said that he would go book pick IT glitch translate as I would smash the communists and people who are speaking about the issue of nineteen sixty five they would be labeled as communist so our group has been labeled as Neil communists and then that becomes scary someone say Indonesia faces so many problems at the moment and sixty five is a long time ago it those mass killings why waste energy digging up the past and dividing the country again well I think because of the violence that happened in nineteen sixty five and that the wrongdoing was never addressed I feel like Indonesia is undergoing the same cycle of violence over and over again the concern about on going in community something that also worries are goes with Jo Jo the retired lieutenant general and it's working people at the risk of much of the plans out there before I left him he told me an Indonesian that he knows this dark chapter in Indonesia's history has to be dealt with otherwise the divisions will continue to haunt us he says if we don't learn from the mistakes of the past they will only be repeat change back in July Katja depict the daughter of the purchase of a life is as being on a.

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08:46 min | 2 years ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"By the current president Joko Widodo to open up these doc chapter in Indonesia there was even talk of digging out mass graves and of an official apology offered for the mass killings this angered and unsettled many in the military and political elites as well as Muslim organize Asians that had taken part in the pooch before I left the house of self confessed killer board hand he makes his views clear on the president's reconciliation attempts Hey I am the metabolism thank you for coming beau Hannon said that if the government apologizes if the president has the audacity to apologize for the mass killings in nineteen sixty five he will be the first that will go to the presidential palace and confront the president and threatens directly to kill him it was this level of intense backlash that shot down the process completely even I who has been believing in the concept of reconciliation I see now that the society is not yet ready to reconcile so I do not push my name is of course we go you I am a retired lieutenant general and my occupation is the governor of the national resilience interest you of the Republic of Indonesia his father was one of the generals killed during the alleged coup on the thirtieth of September nineteen sixty five and he led the military delegation in the failed truth telling and reconciliation process three years ago he blames the leftists phony playing the victim as he sees it and not wanting to admit to their own human rights abuses including a localized armed uprising in nineteen forty eight the leftist side when they talk about nineteen sixty five it was always putting themselves and sometimes will refine themselves as victims they never said anything about the Indonesian Communist Party before nineteen sixty five and that actually they were the killings also over the Indonesian Communist Party that was done before sixty five and also massive nineteen forty eight the way that pushed for the policies in a forceful way one secondly from the other side from the government and military science it was a sort of mindset that the state can do no wrong so the military is frightened to be held accountable by us on the opposite so the combination are they afraid that all things about the Communist Party would be open before nineteen sixty five this coming from a moderate reformist figure in the military shows just how deep the divisions the Communist Party is still banned in Indonesia students of even being detained for just wearing heavy metal see shirts with what they didn't know who will communist symbols on them and these claims of a rest a less surprising than it seems as I realized when August with Jo Jo made an extraordinary admission that the communist threat is being kept alive for a reason the myth against common is an S. the Latin dangers has a value to enforce that there is a need also not to forget about Islam if sense of commission dash then the sentence or urge to have a meeting of the importance of religion in the society can also diminish so you're saying that the threat of communism is being kept alive for political purpose a sort of a sort of because it can be easily transform into other interests children is still not told about the mass killings in schools there are no details about them in the official history books only that the Communist Party was white Dallas after an attempted coup but on the internet groups are breaking the silence providing alternative sources of knowledge for those willing to see kids we're in a small apartment in the center of Jakarta looks out over the sprawling metropolis and the evening call to prayer is ringing out from the nearby mosque and around the small kitchen table he at at the members of in not anomaly mountain remember sixty five hello my name is for the status of any I'm one of the initiators of family man and that's a digital storytelling movement for young people in Indonesia to tell their stories and reflection about what happened in nineteen sixty five in Indonesia in S. anomaly may is a website run by a group of young journalists I hope that it can become a space for the young people four two sixty five to share their stories about their family about their communities and how in nineteen sixty five affected their lives the young people because they started to find out about nineteen sixty five have something to say about it they want the country to continue talking in how the trees telling process in Indonesia or maybe they want the reconciliation process or maybe they want justice who knows but he had an amazing space for the young generation to join the conversation about nineteen sixty five it's not an easy task for these young journalists given the current climate since the failed reconciliation attempt views have if anything hardened meetings of survive as and screenings of documentary films about the killings the being shot down by vigilante groups he says but the film is a good time K. feature film okay at fixie they've been talking about the fact that is quite a frightening time at the moment when they set up this group back in two thousand and fifteen things were very different it was a sense of optimism that this period of history would finally be told but now the offices in the people they are asked to contribute to their website too frightened and how to do that and they can no longer expect people to use their real names photos they say now they have to be more creative it took me about the possibility of using call makes illustrations to get around this new sense of intimidation that's hanging of Indonesia back in two thousand fifteen I feel that there's nothing to be afraid of now the situation is different the president one set that he would go book a copy please translate as I would smash the calmness and people who are speaking about the issue of nineteen sixty five they would be labeled as communist so our group has been labeled as Neil communists and then that becomes scary someone say Indonesia faces so many problems at the moment and sixty five is a long time ago it those mass killings why waste energy digging up the past and dividing the country again well I think because of the violence that happen in nineteen sixty five and that the wrongdoing was never addressed I feel like Indonesia is undergoing the same cycle of violence over and over again the concern about on going in community something that also worries I'll goes with Jo Jo the retired lieutenant general and it's looking people at the risk of much of the plan shop the before I left him he told me an Indonesian that he knows this doctor chap day in Indonesia's history has to be dealt with otherwise the divisions will continue to haunt us he says if we don't learn from the mistakes of the past they will only be repeated.

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on This Day in History Class

This Day in History Class

06:16 min | 2 years ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on This Day in History Class

"A new podcast from IHEART radio and Jingle punks Barrena Banja. I'm Dr Q. and I've spent the last thirty years tracking down bear and Banjo Ngo the two most important musicians of the twentieth century podcast narrated by Dennis Quaid featuring new music produced we've by t-bone Burnett but the new song featuring original lyric by Bob Dylan Barron avenge premiers October third on the iheartradio APP apple podcast gassed or wherever you get podcast this day in history class is production of iheartradio. Yeah well come to this day in history class where we bring you a new tidbit from history every day. Today is October first. I twenty nineteen. The day was October. First nineteen sixty five a group of Indonesian National Armed Forces members killed fixed high ranking Indonesian army general's in a failed coup Jakarta the army linked the assassinations to the Indonesian Communist Party and for the next several weeks the military terry detained and killed hundreds of thousands of communists alleged communists and their sympathisers the coup led to Indonesia's first President Sukarno being on house arrest in general through Harto being appointed to the presidency President Sukarno had begun promoting the system of guided democracy since he believed parliamentary democracy was ineffective in Indonesia as he began implementing a form socialist populism he attempted to balance relations with the military communist and religious groups he supported the Indonesian Communist Party and the army me which was largely anticommunist though many in the military did support communism land reforms which the communist party pressured Sukarno implement for a major source of tension between the party Muslim religious leaders and the people who controlled the lane as the Indonesian Communist Party party gained more influence seeds of doubt grew among army members who were suspicious of the party's intentions and religious groups who were unsure of the party's Beuys Sukarno became more anti-imperialist and championed economic independence for Indonesia but the economy declined due to a lack of effective policy western nations encouraged anti Communist efforts against the Indonesian Communist Party Sukarno and the left and in nineteen sixty five the Indonesian communist party had three million members and was the third largest communist party in the world but by this this time there were rumors that senior army generals were planning a coup against the cardinal in the early morning hours of October. I The thirtieth September Movement Matt Kidnapped and murdered fix of Indonesia's top military generals the movement members announced over the radio that they had seized power to protect the president event and prohibit a military coup the leader of the movement Lieutenant Colonel Into told listeners that the president was safe that generals had been arrested and that there was about to be a new revolutionary government but the coup was crushed quickly. The army claimed the Communist Party was responsible for the coup attempt at the time there was not much evidence that the party had any involvement in the action against the military but General Harto commander of the Army Strategic Reserve served capitalized on anticommunist intimate and quickly launched propagandistic attack against communists he shut down a communist and leftist publications nations while pro army publications flourished the pro army press circulated stories that the murder generals had been tortured and mutilated through this campaign the army inflamed anticommunist feelings and convinced people that the party was complicit in a huge conspiracy the military he took the opportunity to eliminate the political power of communism in Indonesia which it perceived as a threat the army police and civilian militias imprisoned and and killed a communist and their supporters into Carta Central and East Java and Bali as well as parts of other islands. The death toll has been estimated estimated at at least half a million people. It was later discovered that some leaders in the Indonesian Communist Party did play a role in planning the coup but most the people in the party did not know about it. There are many conspiracy theories around exactly who planned the thirtieth September movement and what its goal was the Communist Party was banned in Indonesia in nineteen sixty five and has been ever since along with any public discussion of the massacre the military dictatorship chip that soon took over lit by Suharto rolled Indonesia until nineteen ninety eight with Western support Indonesia became pro western and the the downfall of communism and Indonesia benefited capitalist countries. I'm Eve code and hopefully you know a little more about history today than you did yesterday. If there are any upcoming days in history that you'd really like to cover on the show. Give us a shout on social media at t's the I eight hundred podcast. We'll see you're here in the same place tomorrow. For more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows hello hello everyone. My Name is Steven Satterfield here with some good news from iheartradio in the makers of whetstone stone magazine comes point of origin in all new podcast about the world of food each week we travel the globe in here from the keepers of our food traditions so listen to point of origin on apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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On This Day in History: The 30 September Movement Assassinated 6 Indonesian Army Generals

This Day in History Class

04:23 min | 2 years ago

On This Day in History: The 30 September Movement Assassinated 6 Indonesian Army Generals

"The day was October. First nineteen sixty five a group of Indonesian National Armed Forces members killed fixed high ranking Indonesian army general's in a failed coup Jakarta the army linked the assassinations to the Indonesian Communist Party and for the next several weeks the military terry detained and killed hundreds of thousands of communists alleged communists and their sympathisers the coup led to Indonesia's first President Sukarno being on house arrest in general through Harto being appointed to the presidency President Sukarno had begun promoting the system of guided democracy since he believed parliamentary democracy was ineffective in Indonesia as he began implementing a form socialist populism he attempted to balance relations with the military communist and religious groups he supported the Indonesian Communist Party and the army me which was largely anticommunist though many in the military did support communism land reforms which the communist party pressured Sukarno implement for a major source of tension between the party Muslim religious leaders and the people who controlled the lane as the Indonesian Communist Party party gained more influence seeds of doubt grew among army members who were suspicious of the party's intentions and religious groups who were unsure of the party's Beuys Sukarno became more anti-imperialist and championed economic independence for Indonesia but the economy declined due to a lack of effective policy western nations encouraged anti Communist efforts against the Indonesian Communist Party Sukarno and the left and in nineteen sixty five the Indonesian communist party had three million members and was the third largest communist party in the world but by this this time there were rumors that senior army generals were planning a coup against the cardinal in the early morning hours of October. I The thirtieth September Movement Matt Kidnapped and murdered fix of Indonesia's top military generals the movement members announced over the radio that they had seized power to protect the president event and prohibit a military coup the leader of the movement Lieutenant Colonel Into told listeners that the president was safe that generals had been arrested and that there was about to be a new revolutionary government but the coup was crushed quickly. The army claimed the Communist Party was responsible for the coup attempt at the time there was not much evidence that the party had any involvement in the action against the military but General Harto commander of the Army Strategic Reserve served capitalized on anticommunist intimate and quickly launched propagandistic attack against communists he shut down a communist and leftist publications nations while pro army publications flourished the pro army press circulated stories that the murder generals had been tortured and mutilated through this campaign the army inflamed anticommunist feelings and convinced people that the party was complicit in a huge conspiracy the military he took the opportunity to eliminate the political power of communism in Indonesia which it perceived as a threat the army police and civilian militias imprisoned and and killed a communist and their supporters into Carta Central and East Java and Bali as well as parts of other islands. The death toll has been estimated estimated at at least half a million people. It was later discovered that some leaders in the Indonesian Communist Party did play a role in planning the coup but most the people in the party did not know about it. There are many conspiracy theories around exactly who planned the thirtieth September movement and what its goal was the Communist Party was banned in Indonesia in nineteen sixty five and has been ever since along with any public discussion of the massacre the military dictatorship chip that soon took over lit by Suharto rolled Indonesia until nineteen ninety eight with Western support Indonesia became pro western and the the downfall of communism and Indonesia benefited capitalist countries.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria

The Brookings Cafeteria

01:33 min | 2 years ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria

"Put a parties each of which had somewhere less than a quarter of the seats in parliament, this type of complexity in ideological diversity lead to instability, which was brought to a close by Sukhoi Corneau's proclamation of what he called guided democracy in nineteen fifty seven from nineteen fifty seven until nineteen sixty five sixty six Sukarno ruled over an attempt to use a more top down corporate model to control this type of ideological diversity. And to bring the different elements of innovation society together under a generally, nationalist, leftists, religious non-aligned banner. This unfortunately came to a close in nineteen sixty five with the September thirtieth movement, which is an event which is spawned half a century of analysis, and I won't pretend to be able to summarize it here. But the long short of it is an abortive attempted coup led to the murder of six generals from the Indonesian military, which. Was met with a swift response from the military under general SU Harto who by nineteen sixty six replaced. Sukarno is the head of government and in the ensuing year, the Denise military oversaw. And in some cases was complicit in the mass murder of somewhere between half a million to two million people and the complete an eyelash of Indonesian Communist Party so between that period. Nineteen sixty six sixty seven nineteen ninety eight SU Harto ruled what he called the new order Shem. New Origene was a stunning non-communist.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Code Switch

Code Switch

01:57 min | 4 years ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Code Switch

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from st louis public radio npr rex presenting the podcast we live here real talk about race and class that doesn't feel like homework you'll hear investigations and stories of ordinary people you can start by checking out an episode that has to best friends one who is white and one who is not getting quizzed about what it means to be an ally listen so we live here where you get your podcasts support also comes from gugel home there are things you need to know in the morning like the weather your calendar or the news of personal assistant can just tell you those things like the one built into every goal home just say hey google good morning and the google assistant will tell you the latest forecast traffic on your way to work and even the headlines it's a personalize briefing from an assistant that knows you best it's a little help at home like only google can boom boom boom gene sureen coats which so before the break ari was telling us about the discrimination that young ethnic chinese people like although felix j face as they walked in the streets of jakarta and like you said serene is not just slurs in the 1990s there was targetted violence against their community and we wanted to know more about that so we call them jammeh party she the professor at the australia indonesia center adleman gnashing of versity in melbourne she wrote a book called antichinese violence in indonesia nineteen 96 to 1999 pretty says to understand what happened in the nineties you gotta go back to the '60s around the time indonesia gained its independence sir nine sixtyfive beginning in september there was an alleged coup by members of the military who were affiliated with the indonesian communist party that was the allegation and as a consequence this become a pretext for them.

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"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Global News Podcast

Global News Podcast

02:00 min | 4 years ago

"indonesian communist party" Discussed on Global News Podcast

"And no one knows who son or daughter will be taken next jewison maxime lebanon of ending that report by sarah raynsford in moscow declassified documents released by the american embassy in indonesia show that the united states mu the scale of mass killings of suspected communists that started in nineteen 65 it is thought at least half a million people were killed within a year are jakarta correspondent rebecca heskey told us more what they show is that us staff injie qatar at the time had detailed information about the mass killings that were taking place in indonesia of suspected communists they described these killings as slaughter in some places and also that they were at times indiscriminate killings that people were being killed who didn't have a direct knowledge of the communist party's alleged coup which woods the reason for these crackdown against the party and the mass killings they also show that say us staff had intimate knowledge of the indonesian army's operations to quote completely clean up the indonesian communist party and leftist groups across the country and it's been a long battle hasn't it to get these documents released it has indeed and it's been a push from civil society groups in america and also here in indonesia for fifty years this period of history was to booed to talk about here in indonesia as school children were forced to watch a film a propaganda film by the suharto government that told dave version of the truth very different version to what these documents show and even today in indonesia the topic is extremely sensitive and what impact do you think the documents will have.

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